From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 08:02:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6B716A4CE; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:02:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F280943D39; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:02:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B0E559B; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42451-10; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 386105582; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:10:04 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050109081004.386105582@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:10:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-12-19 - 2005-01-08 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:02:27 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:03:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A8616A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:03:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from venus.veridas.net (venus1.veridas.net [202.52.32.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E160743D46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:02:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beastie@homedc.com.au) Received: (qmail 32248 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2005 23:02:55 +1000 Received: from dsl-202-52-53-217.qld.veridas.net (HELO creativity) (202.52.53.217) by hdcnet.aunz.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2005 23:02:55 +1000 Message-ID: <000f01c4f64b$86e06710$0301a8c0@creativity> From: "Beastie" To: References: <20050102120100.6A5AA16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:02:51 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: What Has Happened To The Forum X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:03:03 -0000 Greetings Does anyone know when the forum at here : http://www.support.daemonnews.org/ : will return ?? "Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard, be evil." From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 05:30:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AF816A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:30:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747EF43D46 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:30:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guile68@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so137977wri for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:30:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PDckreGJ5PyonhV/ua1XClT6+pYN+kkxWNgDzfLFOKkm+6G6dNBywEvk8xy12e86HZSeVC7Eqb/A9FFmYAbN5IY5RgLDKOV/tKB9mrjqiLp9sCn7g4ZybLnsZgRTflJcpp9C3G3fkBszOhzUo7DmedzIB7eKqeZg1OHDtPdwNgo= Received: by 10.54.8.5 with SMTP id 5mr377394wrh; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.25.59 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:30:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:30:43 -0600 From: Guile To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 5.2.1 in VMWare 4.5.2 (No network connectivity) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Guile List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:30:45 -0000 I installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 in VMWare 4.5.2 and tried the multiple options for networking and I still can't get networking to work. Anyone had any experience using VMWare 4.5.2? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:49:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CBC16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52C543D55 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.55.105] ([192.168.55.105]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:49:27 -0800 Message-ID: <41E2F860.5000608@finnovative.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:49:20 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2005 21:49:27.0585 (UTC) FILETIME=[41C85110:01C4F75E] Subject: FreeBSD boot sequence? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:21 -0000 Hi, I was wondering how the system starts up and what scripts are loaded. Where can I find this? I find it useful to learn the system by first studying the bootup. This was helpful for Mac OS X and even Windows NT/2K/XP/2K3. - joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:20:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DBF16A4D7 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:20:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798F443D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so246220wri for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:20:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CD0iTX5jCm1iaVGuPtrD11gR9C6ClgKP1Rd1n79SsrGS1iQJYv5WZDoQ3ybw6am5tKa/0bbBPpyOdf5+zk2pdyZqVBIeHQffBOxMqAXxzBdHhV8BYk1qE76k5CYtjUE/R+4lILNL1mcF49CaVqUmVTP/FE/797YkCqMgf4viYNk= Received: by 10.54.53.51 with SMTP id b51mr225137wra; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.46.25 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:20:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b050110142047175865@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:20:24 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: Joaquin Menchaca In-Reply-To: <41E2F860.5000608@finnovative.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41E2F860.5000608@finnovative.net> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD boot sequence? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:20:26 -0000 There is a pretty straight-forward account in the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot.html -wtgee On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:49:20 -0800, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering how the system starts up and what scripts are loaded. > Where can I find this? > > I find it useful to learn the system by first studying the bootup. This > was helpful for Mac OS X and even Windows NT/2K/XP/2K3. > > - joaquin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:09:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5FC16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:09:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7670A43D5A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:09:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Co8fA-0009MV-BQ for Freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:09:28 +0000 From: Xian To: Freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:09:26 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_msw4Bxv2OG887Kn" Message-Id: <200501102309.26168.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Subject: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:09:29 -0000 --Boundary-00=_msw4Bxv2OG887Kn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found a picture of Beastie in one of the files in /boot and used it in my motd so it shows up when someone logs in. I've attached it. To see it properly use cat to display it on a terminal. If you use a text editor the escape codes show up and it looks horrible. Nothing else looks as cool as Free BSD ;-) -- /Xian "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again more intelligently" Henry Ford --Boundary-00=_msw4Bxv2OG887Kn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="motd" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="motd" FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 (HERCULES) #4: Sat Jan 8 12:09:39 GMT 2005  , , /( )` \ \___ / | /- _ `-/ ' (/\/ \ \ /\ / / | ` \ O O ) / | `-^--'`< ' (_.) _ ) / `.___/` / `-----' / <----. __ / __ \ <----|====O)))==) \) /====| <----' `--' `.__,' \ | | \ / /\ ______( (_ / \______/ ,' ,-----' | `--{__________) FreeBSD unleashes the Power of _ _ ______  _____ _____ _ _ _ ______  _____  |_____| |____  |____/ | | | | |____  |_____  | | |_____ | \ |____ |_____| |_____ |_____  _____| --Boundary-00=_msw4Bxv2OG887Kn-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 10:12:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9695916A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gawab.com (www.gawab.com [204.97.230.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B4B543D31 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:12:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jadukor@gawab.com) Received: (qmail 20428 invoked by uid 1004); 11 Jan 2005 08:27:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20050111082704.20426.qmail@gawab.com> References: <20050108170052.28548.qmail@gawab.com> <1105222340.28926.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1105222340.28926.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Received: from 202.84.37.152 by gawab.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:27:04 GMT From: "Emon" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:27:04 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [202.84.37.152] Subject: TV Card problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:12:08 -0000 Hello everyon I am just starting to learn about TV Cards supported by FreeBSD. Unfortunately my pci TV Card (PINNACLE PCTV Stereo) does not have Brooktree/Conexant Chip. Intead it uses something like SAA7134HL CC4492 Tt03461 At least that's what I found written on the Chip. So... does this mean that I am DOOMED???? There is no Light at the end of the tunnel unless I change my TV Card!! Thanks Jadukor --------------------------------------------- Free POP3 Email from www.Gawab.com Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 07:13:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC1716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:13:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3843643D58 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:13:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([192.168.55.1]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:13:45 -0800 Message-ID: <41E4CE04.3060804@finnovative.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:13:08 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2005 07:13:45.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[414225E0:01C4F876] Subject: HELP: Not sure where to go after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:13:46 -0000 Hi, I just went to through the installation of FreeBSD 5.3 (i386) on my VIA PD10000 system. After going through the installation, applicaitions selections and extra packages, and configuration, I am brought back to the initial installation screen. What do I do at this point? Do I just reboot. This seems awkward. Also, is X-Windows working. I went through a mouse configuration part, but never went into any type of X-Windows configuration part. Do I have X-Windows? I know that this is pretty basic, but being new and all, it's all a little bit awkward and I am not sure exactly what to do... -- joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 09:49:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4808D16A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:49:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16FB43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:49:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Cof7l-000ODw-E8 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:49:09 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:49:06 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41E4CE04.3060804@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41E4CE04.3060804@finnovative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501120949.06595.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Subject: Re: HELP: Not sure where to go after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:49:13 -0000 On Wednesday 12 January 2005 07:13, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi, > > I just went to through the installation of FreeBSD 5.3 (i386) on my VIA > PD10000 system. After going through the installation, applicaitions > selections and extra packages, and configuration, I am brought back to > the initial installation screen. > > What do I do at this point? Do I just reboot. This seems awkward. > > Also, is X-Windows working. I went through a mouse configuration part, > but never went into any type of X-Windows configuration part. Do I have > X-Windows? > > I know that this is pretty basic, but being new and all, it's all a > little bit awkward and I am not sure exactly what to do... > > -- joaquin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" To see if you've got X working type startx at the console. One of the most usefull things I use is the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/) it has a section on X as well. You shouldn't have to reboot after installing most packages only things like new kernels need a reboot. -- /Xian "Security is not the absence of danger, but the presence of God, no matter what the danger" Anon From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:22:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820D516A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:22:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202A743D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:22:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050112102222i9100bpplme>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:22:22 +0000 Message-ID: <41E4FA5D.7030302@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:22:21 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaquin Menchaca References: <41E4CE04.3060804@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41E4CE04.3060804@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: Not sure where to go after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:22:23 -0000 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi, > > I just went to through the installation of FreeBSD 5.3 (i386) on my > VIA PD10000 system. After going through the installation, > applicaitions selections and extra packages, and configuration, I am > brought back to the initial installation screen. > > What do I do at this point? Do I just reboot. This seems awkward. yea sorta, exit sysinstall and then it will ask if you want to shutdown and reboot. > > Also, is X-Windows working. I went through a mouse configuration > part, but never went into any type of X-Windows configuration part. > Do I have X-Windows? You can call it X, X11, X11R6, X Window System, etc. but never call it "X Windows", Anyways... The X configuration part was taken out of sysinstall. I don't know if you installed X (you'd know if you did though) but to set it up you can run "Xorg -configure" and do what it says. Read chapter 5 of the FreeBSD handbook (at least read sections; 5.2, 5.4, and 5.7) for more info: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:34:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3820916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DFC43D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050112103423i9200isente>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:24 +0000 Message-ID: <41E4FD2F.40607@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:34:23 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xian References: <200501102309.26168.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> In-Reply-To: <200501102309.26168.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:25 -0000 Xian wrote: >I found a picture of Beastie in one of the files in /boot and used it in my >motd so it shows up when someone logs in. I've attached it. To see it >properly use cat to display it on a terminal. If you use a text editor the >escape codes show up and it looks horrible. >Nothing else looks as cool as Free BSD ;-) > > Put loader_color="YES" into /boot/loader.conf and it will use that color beastie you found in the boot menu. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 (HERCULES) #4: Sat Jan 8 12:09:39 GMT 2005 > > > , , > /( )` > \ \___ / | > /- _ `-/ ' > (/\/ \ \ /\ > / / | ` \ > O O ) / | > `-^--'`< ' > (_.) _ ) / > `.___/` / > `-----' / > <----. __ / __ \ > <----|====O)))==) \) /====| > <----' `--' `.__,' \ > | | > \ / /\ > ______( (_ / \______/ > ,' ,-----' | > `--{__________) > FreeBSD unleashes the Power of > _ _ ______  _____ _____ _ _ _ ______  _____  > |_____| |____  |____/ | | | | |____  |_____  > | | |_____ | \ |____ |_____| |_____ |_____  _____| > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:35:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D9016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:35:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay1.micronesiantel.com (relay1.micronesiantel.com [202.88.64.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12D3A43D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:35:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from w75xw@vzpacifica.net) Received: (qmail 16951 invoked by uid 513); 12 Jan 2005 10:35:23 -0000 Received: from 202.88.66.141 by relay1.micronesiantel.com (envelope-from , uid 506) with qmail-scanner-1.24st (clamdscan: 0.80/662. spamassassin: 2.64. perlscan: 1.24st. Clear:RC:1(202.88.66.141):SA:0(-104.9/7.5):. Processed in 2.982973 secs); 12 Jan 2005 10:35:23 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-104.9 required=7.5 X-Antivirus-RD-Mail-From: w75xw@vzpacifica.net via relay1.micronesiantel.com X-Antivirus-RD: 1.24st (Clear:RC:1(202.88.66.141):SA:0(-104.9/7.5):. Processed in 2.982973 secs Process 16934) X-Envelope-From: w75xw@vzpacifica.net Received: from pool-202-88-66-141.d1-sv.micronesiantel.net (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (202.88.66.141) by relay1.micronesiantel.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 10:35:20 -0000 From: "Michael A. Thissell" To: Joaquin Menchaca In-Reply-To: <41E4CE04.3060804@finnovative.net> References: <41E4CE04.3060804@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1105526158.618.53.camel@emma.vzpacifica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:35:59 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on relay1.micronesiantel.com X-Antivirus-RD-MOVED-X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-104.9 required=7.5 tests=BAYES_00=-4.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: Not sure where to go after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:35:19 -0000 On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 17:13, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi, > > I just went to through the installation of FreeBSD 5.3 (i386) on my VIA > PD10000 system. After going through the installation, applications > selections and extra packages, and configuration, I am brought back to > the initial installation screen. > > What do I do at this point? Do I just reboot. This seems awkward. > > Also, is X-Windows working. I went through a mouse configuration part, > but never went into any type of X-Windows configuration part. Do I have > X-Windows? > > I know that this is pretty basic, but being new and all, it's all a > little bit awkward and I am not sure exactly what to do... > > -- joaquin Yes, it is a little confusing. Basically, reboot and log onto the system. Please type "xorgconfig" and answer the questions. This is the script that sets up the X windows hardware. There are other configuration files to help set up your hardware, but I have found this one to be the most direct and reasonable. Your milage may vary. You should know a little bit of information about your hardware before running xorgconfig. But hey, it it don't work the first time... you can always run the file again. The final question will ask if it okay to write xorg.conf file to /etc/X11 .... please say "yes" to this question. BTW, this is a good thing to remember: the xorg.conf file is in /etc/X11 in case you want to edit it for some reason. Hint... hint. Please type "startx" at the command prompt. You'll most likely dumped into a very basic desktop with three open windows and a small clock in the upper right hand corner. What this means is... your xorg.conf file is working just fine. It also means you've launched a desktop that would be difficult to use. Type CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to dump away from the basic screen and back to the command line. Your mission has been accomplished and your hardware is now configured for the X Windows environment. ------------ If you chose Gnome or KDE or any of the other desktop environments at the beginning, you can invoke those startup files now. Let's say you liked Gnome and installed all of the Gnome Lite files during the initial installation. The command "startx" needs a target so to speak. At the moment, its target is a very basic (crappy) desktop. You want Gnome! So, here's a way to tell "startx" to use Gnome. echo "/usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc Now... every time you type "startx" the Gnome desktop should appear. ------------ FIRST THING TO DO: Read the FreeBSD Handbook - Chapter 5, X-Window System. The two authors have described in much more detail the process of getting a desktop working. Look at page 149 in the Handbook; both Gnome and KDE are discussed on this single page. Also, you might want to take a look at Chaper 16 - Multimedia. Specifically, Section 16.2 - Setting Up A Sound Card. It is a bit cryptic, but it ain't rocket science. I was lucky cause I had a SoundBlaster Live card and that was the exact example the authors used. If I'd had an unusual sound card, that might have been more difficult to figure out the correct driver. I trust this helps and apologize for getting long-winded. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:01:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C9816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:01:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A11743D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:01:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050112110137i9200isteke>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:01:38 +0000 Message-ID: <41E50391.90609@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:01:37 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emon References: <20050108170052.28548.qmail@gawab.com> <1105222340.28926.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050111082704.20426.qmail@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: <20050111082704.20426.qmail@gawab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TV Card problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:01:39 -0000 Emon wrote: >Hello everyon > >I am just starting to learn about TV Cards supported by FreeBSD. >Unfortunately my pci TV Card (PINNACLE PCTV Stereo) does not >have Brooktree/Conexant Chip. Intead it uses something like > >SAA7134HL >CC4492 >Tt03461 > >At least that's what I found written on the Chip. So... does >this mean that I am DOOMED???? There is no Light at the end of >the tunnel unless I change my TV Card!! > > AFAIK all PCI Based Pinnacle PCTV cards have a Connexant (brooktree) 878A chip. add this to your kernel and recompile it: device bktr device iicbus device iicbb device smbus read the bktr man page for more info From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:08:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF50816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:08:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E06443D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:08:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050112110825i9200ispqfe>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:08:25 +0000 Message-ID: <41E50528.2050906@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:08:24 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Mathers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:08:26 -0000 James Mathers wrote: >Hi, > >I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on my Toshiba Tecra 9100, using the 5.3 boot-only CD, which I burnt from an iso I downloaded. Unfortunately, it hangs in the Freebsd boot-up sequence after the bootloader had loaded with the last message being: " uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]". > >I think it's related to the bug reported in this link : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2004-October/009618.html, but I'm unable to determine what the best course of action is from here. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any, if so, how did you get around it? > > > Disable USB in the BIOS and try it again. You could also try verbose loading, safe mode, and disable ACPI at the boot menu if that doesn't help. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:31:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4B816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:31:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34AD43D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:31:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050112113129i9100bpkupe>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:31:30 +0000 Message-ID: <41E50A91.7090107@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:31:29 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jimmy References: <41DAB4F9.8070608@oranged.to> In-Reply-To: <41DAB4F9.8070608@oranged.to> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw ipf pf etc etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:31:31 -0000 Jimmy wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently trying to find out what the differences are between the > different firewall/packet filters in FreeBSD 5.3. > > From what I understand there is ipfw pf and maybe others as well? ipfilter and ipchains (Linux) are two others, I use ipfilter. > > > Any additional feedback would be great. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:24:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFD716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:24:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay101-f19.bay101.hotmail.com [64.4.56.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7C643D46 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:24:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blindboy@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:24:03 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 193.128.86.52 by by101fd.bay101.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:23:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.128.86.52] X-Originating-Email: [blindboy@hotmail.com] X-Sender: blindboy@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <41E50528.2050906@nbritton.org> From: "James Mathers" To: freebsd@nbritton.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:23:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2005 18:24:03.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[E49A6C90:01C4F8D3] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:24:04 -0000 Thanks very much - this solved my problem. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org> To: James Mathers <blindboy@hotmail.com> CC: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems booting Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:08:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net ([63.240.76.166]) by mc8-f15.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:09:02 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050112110825i9200ispqfe>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:08:25 +0000 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFMHZJ4leNsWYaS81tTYPoE User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <BAY101-DAV805EEC01A47E40E19C975D6920@phx.gbl> Return-Path: freebsd@nbritton.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2005 11:09:02.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F920570:01C4F897] James Mathers wrote: >Hi, > >I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on my Toshiba Tecra 9100, using >the 5.3 boot-only CD, which I burnt from an iso I downloaded. >Unfortunately, it hangs in the Freebsd boot-up sequence after the >bootloader had loaded with the last message being: " uhci3: >[GIANT-LOCKED]". > >I think it's related to the bug reported in this link : >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2004-October/009618.html, >but I'm unable to determine what the best course of action is from >here. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any, if so, how did >you get around it? > > > Disable USB in the BIOS and try it again. You could also try verbose loading, safe mode, and disable ACPI at the boot menu if that doesn't help. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:26:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7701616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:26:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gawab.com (www.gawab.com [204.97.230.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDA4543D49 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:26:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jadukor@gawab.com) Received: (qmail 7700 invoked by uid 1004); 12 Jan 2005 18:25:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20050112182508.7698.qmail@gawab.com> References: <20050108170052.28548.qmail@gawab.com> <1105222340.28926.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1105222340.28926.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Received: from 202.84.36.231 by www.gawab.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:25:07 GMT From: "Emon" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:25:07 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [202.84.36.231] Subject: File System mounting prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:26:42 -0000 Hello everyone I would appreciate some advice on the folling problems First.... Is there any way to mount a filesystem, as a generel user? so that everytime I put a cd in the CD player I dont have to su to root just to mount it! Second.... I can't find kppp(the dial up connecter that used to come with KDE) anymore!?? If KDE is not providing it any more, then is there any other (GUI) substitute for it? Thanks Jadukor --------------------------------------------- Free POP3 Email from www.Gawab.com Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:46:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E835716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:46:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7189F43D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1ConVJ-000IU6-Br for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:46:01 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:46:00 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050108170052.28548.qmail@gawab.com> <1105222340.28926.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050112182508.7698.qmail@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: <20050112182508.7698.qmail@gawab.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501121846.00477.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Subject: Re: File System mounting prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:46:04 -0000 On Wednesday 12 January 2005 18:25, Emon wrote: > Hello everyone > > I would appreciate some advice on the folling problems > > First.... > > Is there any way to mount a filesystem, as a generel user? so > that everytime I put a cd in the CD player I dont have to su to > root just to mount it! > > Second.... > > I can't find kppp(the dial up connecter that used to come with > KDE) anymore!?? If KDE is not providing it any more, then is > there any other (GUI) substitute for it? > > Thanks > Jadukor > --------------------------------------------- > Free POP3 Email from www.Gawab.com > Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Set sysctl vfs.usermount to 1 to allow anyone to mount stuff. You can do this from the command line like `sysctl vfs.usermount 1` or every boot by putting a line 'vfs.usermount=1' in /etc/sysctl.conf. Then you need to allow people who are going to mount things have access to the drives so chmod them 666. I have a script that chmods the drives on boot but this is a bodge cos its supposed to be done with devfs rules (man devfs for more info) but I am not so good at these (if anyone can help me as well here please). This way works but I think it might have some security issues along the lines of suid files. I've never used kppp so sorry I can't help here. -- /Xian "A tree only hits a car in self defence" Unknown author From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 19:43:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E4E16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:43:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5128E43D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:43:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050112194314i9100bq89pe>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:43:14 +0000 Message-ID: <41E57DD1.5060600@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:43:13 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Mathers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:43:15 -0000 James Mathers wrote: > > Thanks very much - this solved my problem. > > np. If you don't need USB I'd just leave usb disabled (I'm assuming you disabled it in the BIOS)... but if you do need it you have a few options... You could play with the BIOS settings (legacy mode, etc etc). You could disable the extra usb controllers in freebsd (or something like that). Or you could apply the kernel patch (kern/72492) to your system. I'd play with the BIOS settings first and if that didn't work I'd do the patch because it looks like a relatively strait foreword and simple fix: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=72492 If you have anymore questions about this subject I'd post them to the freebsd-questions mailing list and not here as they will be more competent at answering your technical questions then newbies helping newbies. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:01:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1410316A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:01:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0F643D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:01:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1CotMd-0001cY-9e for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:01:27 -0600 Message-ID: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:01:39 -0600 From: Brian John User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050107) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:01:37 -0000 Hi, I have SSH setup on my box and home and I want to be able to SSH to it from work. The only problem is, my ISP uses DHCP, so my IP address changes. I would like to write a script to monitor my IP address and email me when it changes. Can somebody help me do this? Thanks /Brian From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:39:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9B216A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:39:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mwde08la.mail2world.com (mw76.mail2world.com [66.28.189.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1581443D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:39:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@tanksley.net) Received: from mail pickup service by mwde08la.mail2world.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:27:35 -0800 auth-sender: mike@tanksley.net Received: from 68.251.253.229 unverified ([68.251.253.229]) by mwde08la.mail2world.com with Mail2World SMTP Server, Wed 12 Jan 2005 17:27:34 -08:00 Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050112203347.08bccce8@getmail.tanksley.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:38:53 -0500 To: Brian John , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Mike Tanksley In-Reply-To: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 01:27:35.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FD59DE0:01C4F90F] Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:39:03 -0000 Brian, There are several companies that do Dynamic DNS. I use www.sitelutions.com, they have a small agent that you put on one of your home machines. When your IP changes it will update DNS. That will allow you to connect to it suing fully qualified domain name. Mike At 08:01 PM 1/12/2005, Brian John wrote: >Hi, I have SSH setup on my box and home and I want to be able to SSH to it >from work. The only problem is, my ISP uses DHCP, so my IP address >changes. I would like to write a script to monitor my IP address and >email me when it changes. Can somebody help me do this? > >Thanks > >/Brian >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:47:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFD116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:47:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E43F43D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:47:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1Cou54-0001dK-Q0; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:47:23 -0600 Message-ID: <41E5D332.6060608@fusemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:47:30 -0600 From: Brian John User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050107) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tanksley References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050112203347.08bccce8@getmail.tanksley.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050112203347.08bccce8@getmail.tanksley.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:47:33 -0000 Thanks, but I don't really need Dynamic DNS. I just want to be able to find out what my home computer's ip address is at any given time. I'd rather not pay anything because I know that this is something that I could probably do myself with a script. I would really like to learn how to do this myself. Mike Tanksley wrote: > Brian, > > There are several companies that do Dynamic DNS. I use > www.sitelutions.com, they have a small agent that you put on one of > your home machines. When your IP changes it will update DNS. That > will allow you to connect to it suing fully qualified domain name. > > Mike > > > At 08:01 PM 1/12/2005, Brian John wrote: > >> Hi, I have SSH setup on my box and home and I want to be able to SSH >> to it from work. The only problem is, my ISP uses DHCP, so my IP >> address changes. I would like to write a script to monitor my IP >> address and email me when it changes. Can somebody help me do this? >> >> Thanks >> >> /Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 02:02:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB36C16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:02:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asclepius.uwa.edu.au (asclepius3.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F4E43D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:02:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zanchey@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from asclepius.kas (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 031B0183BE6 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:51 +0800 (WST) Received: from asclepius (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.prekas (Postfix) with SMTP id E3DD31840DC for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:50 +0800 (WST) X-UWA-Client-IP: 130.95.13.9 (UWA) Received: from mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.9]) by asclepius.input (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75BE1840CA for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:50 +0800 (WST) Received: by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 801) id 1857517F20; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:50 +0800 (WST) Received: from mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.18]) by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D7017E9F; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:49 +0800 (WST) Received: from zanchey (helo=localhost) by mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CouK1-0002x2-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:49 +0800 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:02:49 +0800 (WST) From: David Adam To: Xian In-Reply-To: <200501121846.00477.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Message-ID: References: <20050108170052.28548.qmail@gawab.com> <20050112182508.7698.qmail@gawab.com> <200501121846.00477.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: David Adam X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Formal (192/041231) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Detect Hard [UCS 290904] X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: SysLog X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Marking Spam - Subject (UCS) [02-08-04] X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File System mounting prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:02:56 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Xian wrote: > I have a script that chmods the drives on boot but this is a bodge cos its > supposed to be done with devfs rules (man devfs for more info) but I am not > so good at these (if anyone can help me as well here please). Hi Xian et al, Here's how I went about getting devfs up and running. (I had a similar problem with permissions on my CD drive.) I think it shows a good way of going about solving FreeBSD problems. $ man devfs ... (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=devfs&sektion=5) Well, that's not very useful. Now, where would any sensible person keep devfs rules? $ man devfs.conf No manual entry for devfs.conf $ man devfs.rules No manual entry for devfs.rules Time to check the PR database - the FreeBSD bug reporting system. (OK, I cheated here because I already knew that a Problem Report existed with a fix.) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=63808 looks useful. And there's a suggested fix. We head to http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ and see the link to two manpages - unfortunately, they're written in a weird looking language. They're understandable, but only just. Scroll down the page to the Devfs section (about half-way down the page). Ah... I'll let you do the rest. Cheers, David Adam zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 02:06:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1232616A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:06:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D1143D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:06:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keebler@mindspring.com) Received: from user-1121ui1.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.250.65] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CouNY-0003mM-00; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:06:28 -0500 Message-ID: <41E5D807.8080202@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:08:07 -0500 From: Carleton Vaughn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian John References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050112203347.08bccce8@getmail.tanksley.net> <41E5D332.6060608@fusemail.com> In-Reply-To: <41E5D332.6060608@fusemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:06:29 -0000 Brian John wrote: > Thanks, but I don't really need Dynamic DNS. I just want to be able to > find out what my home computer's ip address is at any given time. I'd > rather not pay anything because I know that this is something that I > could probably do myself with a script. I would really like to learn > how to do this myself. Dynamic DNS is often free for personal use. I use DynDNS.org and a Netgear firewall/router. Works dandy and saves me from having to research my IP every time Earthlink resets my connection. -- Carleton Vaughn College Park, Georgia, USA From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 05:36:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9579C16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:36:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.velocom.com.ar (smtp.velocom.com.ar [200.59.32.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1221943D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mguadagnini@velocom.com.ar) Received: from smtp.velocom.com.ar (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.velocom.com.ar (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E65FC68DB for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:35:56 -0300 (ARST) Received: from velocom.com.ar (adsl362-tasa.via-net-works.net.ar [200.59.198.107]) by smtp.velocom.com.ar (Postfix) with ESMTP id F214BC68CB for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:35:55 -0300 (ARST) Message-ID: <41E60908.4070004@velocom.com.ar> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:37:12 -0300 From: Mariano Guadagnini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050112203347.08bccce8@getmail.tanksley.net> <41E5D332.6060608@fusemail.com> <41E5D807.8080202@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <41E5D807.8080202@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:36:17 -0000 Carleton Vaughn wrote: > Brian John wrote: > >> Thanks, but I don't really need Dynamic DNS. I just want to be able >> to find out what my home computer's ip address is at any given time. >> I'd rather not pay anything because I know that this is something >> that I could probably do myself with a script. I would really like >> to learn how to do this myself. > > Dynamic DNS is often free for personal use. I use DynDNS.org and a > Netgear firewall/router. Works dandy and saves me from having to > research my IP every time Earthlink resets my connection. Personally I use the free service provided by no-ip, and they have a free application (for linux) that runs as a daemon and checks wether the ip had changed, updating automatically the dns, at desired intervals. Maybe you could try if it works in FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 08:21:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4FB16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7B743D5A for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from merv@merv.org.uk) Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP <20050113082151.YDMS10495.mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:51 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.merv.org.uk ([82.9.234.34]) by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP <20050113082151.MAAX13480.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@FreeBSD.merv.org.uk> for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FreeBSD.merv.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F2726D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FreeBSD.merv.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (FreeBSD.merv.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02923-09 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: by FreeBSD.merv.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F354192; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:53 +0000 (GMT) From: merv Organization: Home To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:52 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> In-Reply-To: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501130821.52869.merv@merv.org.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at merv.org.uk Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:54 -0000 ifconfig dc0 | mail -s ip_address your@emailaddress Should do it if you are not using a router. On Thursday 13 January 2005 01:01, Brian John wrote: > Hi, I have SSH setup on my box and home and I want to be able to SSH to > it from work. The only problem is, my ISP uses DHCP, so my IP address > changes. I would like to write a script to monitor my IP address and > email me when it changes. Can somebody help me do this? > > Thanks > > /Brian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 08:24:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710F616A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:24:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93BF43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:24:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deralsem@inbox.ru) Received: from [81.26.152.28] (port=56157 helo=dev-project) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1Cp0HL-00069W-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:24:27 +0300 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:28:07 +0300 From: DerAlSem X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.2.4 Rush) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Nowhere Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2910445512.20050113112807@inbox.ru> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501130821.52869.merv@merv.org.uk> References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <200501130821.52869.merv@merv.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: Re[2]: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DerAlSem List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:24:29 -0000 Hello merv, Thursday, January 13, 2005, 11:21:52 AM, you wrote: > ifconfig dc0 | mail -s ip_address your@emailaddress O, that's great and sooo simple! 10x, i'll use it. ;-) -- Best regards, DerAlSem mailto:deralsem@inbox.ru From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:44:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BB116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:44:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web.plurali.net (plurali.net [213.41.135.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7AE43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:44:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@serpe.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (web.plurali.net [192.168.0.4]) by web.plurali.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700604C901; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:44:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E64301.4030608@serpe.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:44:33 +0100 From: Nicolas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carleton Vaughn References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050112203347.08bccce8@getmail.tanksley.net> <41E5D332.6060608@fusemail.com> <41E5D807.8080202@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <41E5D807.8080202@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Brian John cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:44:36 -0000 Carleton Vaughn wrote: > Brian John wrote: > >> Thanks, but I don't really need Dynamic DNS. I just want to be able >> to find out what my home computer's ip address is at any given time. >> I'd rather not pay anything because I know that this is something that >> I could probably do myself with a script. I would really like to >> learn how to do this myself. > > Dynamic DNS is often free for personal use. I use DynDNS.org and a > Netgear firewall/router. Works dandy and saves me from having to > research my IP every time Earthlink resets my connection. > Are you really sure that they provide a Dynamic DNS for free ? Their free service just maps a free url (like "you.dyndns.org") to your IP. If you want to update real DNS entries on your own domain (like "you.com"), you have to pay for the extra "Custom DNS" service. $30 a year or something. Do someone know of a good real dynamic DNS update service (with your own domain) ? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:50:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA1A16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:50:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3F0E43D3F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:50:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-9.messagelabs.com!1105609812!12836466!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.5; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [194.129.126.228] Received: (qmail 22830 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 09:50:18 -0000 Received: from mailhost.capita.co.uk (HELO capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk) (194.129.126.228) by server-3.tower-9.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 09:50:18 -0000 Received: from ems-imcl1.central.ad.capita.co.uk (unverified) by capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:50:03 +0000 Received: by EMS-IMCL1.central.ad.capita.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:50:03 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Walker, Michael" To: "FreeBSD-Newbies (E-mail)" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:50:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:50:25 -0000 owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org wrote: > Carleton Vaughn wrote: >> Brian John wrote: >> >>> Thanks, but I don't really need Dynamic DNS. I just want to be able >>> to find out what my home computer's ip address is at any given time. >>> I'd rather not pay anything because I know that this is something >>> that I could probably do myself with a script. I would really like >>> to learn how to do this myself. >> >> Dynamic DNS is often free for personal use. I use DynDNS.org and a >> Netgear firewall/router. Works dandy and saves me from having to >> research my IP every time Earthlink resets my connection. >> > > Are you really sure that they provide a Dynamic DNS for free ? Their > free service just maps a free url (like "you.dyndns.org") to your IP. > > If you want to update real DNS entries on your own domain (like > "you.com"), you have to pay for the extra "Custom DNS" service. $30 a > year or something. > Actually, most dyndns providers do provider a real dynamic dns system. I have personally only used no-ip.com, but when you resolve the hostname, it will actually resolve to your ip address. Thus you can ftp, ssh, etc etc to your dynamic hostname. To the original poster: Have you tried some of the dyndns clients in the ports tree? Mick Walker NAAFI Finance International ********************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error or think you may have done so, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. Please notify the sender immediately and delete the original e-mail from your system. Computer viruses can be transmitted by e-mail. Recipients should check this e-mail for the presence of viruses. The Capita Group and its subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. *********************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 11:22:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33CE16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:22:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7F943D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:22:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keebler@mindspring.com) Received: from user-1121ui1.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.250.65] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Cp341-0007TL-00; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:22:53 -0500 Message-ID: <41E65A6D.50908@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:24:29 -0500 From: Carleton Vaughn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050112203347.08bccce8@getmail.tanksley.net> <41E5D332.6060608@fusemail.com> <41E5D807.8080202@mindspring.com> <41E64301.4030608@serpe.org> In-Reply-To: <41E64301.4030608@serpe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Brian John cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:22:56 -0000 Nicolas wrote: > Carleton Vaughn wrote: >> Dynamic DNS is often free for personal use. I use DynDNS.org and a >> Netgear firewall/router. Works dandy and saves me from having to >> research my IP every time Earthlink resets my connection. > > Are you really sure that they provide a Dynamic DNS for free ? Their > free service just maps a free url (like "you.dyndns.org") to your IP. I'm not sure what you mean by "URL" as all traffic to you.dyndns.org gets routed to your IP. I have a subdomain under their *.homeunix.net domain and use it to SSH home from school. I view this free and convenient service more than satisfactory for personal use. The thread originator said he was willing to locate his machine by IP only; it follows that if he uses a naming service, he may not be particular about *what* name he uses, provided there exists *a* name. > If you want to update real DNS entries on your own domain (like > "you.com"), you have to pay for the extra "Custom DNS" service. $30 a > year or something. This should come as no surprise and I am grateful to anyone who uses Custom DNS as it subsidizes the free service I take advantage of. > Do someone know of a good real dynamic DNS update service (with your own > domain) ? By good you mean free? http://www.thefreecountry.com/webmaster/freedns.shtml may provide some pointers. -- Carleton Vaughn College Park, Georgia, USA From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 13:26:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B2B16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:26:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay21-f41.bay21.hotmail.com [65.54.233.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B32143D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:26:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freemybsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:26:02 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 145.48.132.117 by by21fd.bay21.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:25:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [145.48.132.117] X-Originating-Email: [freemybsd@hotmail.com] X-Sender: freemybsd@hotmail.com From: "free bsd" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:25:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 13:26:02.0142 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D2CBBE0:01C4F973] cc: freemybsd@hotmail.com Subject: Enabling 2nd NIC for router function on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:26:03 -0000 Hi, I'm seaching how to configure my FreeBSD-PXE boot server so, that i can use it as a zebra router. My configuration: PC104 - 1 intel NIC (works as fxp0) - 2 Realtec RTL8019AS NIC's (only 1 will show up as ed0) So the problem is: Only 1 (one) of my realtec network card's works. Configuration at this moment (but tryed many others like ed only in stead of ed0 etc.) # ISA Ethernet NICs. # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 If you require more info to answer please ask! Were stuck up here! _________________________________________________________________ Spel spelletjes met je online vrienden via MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 14:47:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AB116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:47:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B667A43D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:47:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050113144744i9200itct7e>; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:47:45 +0000 Message-ID: <41E68A0F.5010407@nbritton.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:47:43 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: free bsd References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enabling 2nd NIC for router function on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:47:46 -0000 free bsd wrote: > Hi, > > I'm seaching how to configure my FreeBSD-PXE boot server so, that i > can use it as a zebra router. > > My configuration: > > PC104 > - 1 intel NIC (works as fxp0) > - 2 Realtec RTL8019AS NIC's (only 1 will show up as ed0) > > So the problem is: Only 1 (one) of my realtec network card's works. > > Configuration at this moment (but tryed many others like ed only in > stead of ed0 etc.) > > # ISA Ethernet NICs. > # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' > device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > > If you require more info to answer please ask! Were stuck up here! > > Have you tried this?: device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ed1 at isa? port foo irq foo iomem foo Have you played with the PnP OS mode in the BIOS? Have you manually tried to configure the cards (using the config boot disk to change the pnp resouces it uses)? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 16:50:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5AE16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay21-f37.bay21.hotmail.com [65.54.233.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A151143D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:50:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freemybsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:50:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 81.59.76.197 by by21fd.bay21.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:49:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [81.59.76.197] X-Originating-Email: [freemybsd@hotmail.com] X-Sender: freemybsd@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <41E68A0F.5010407@nbritton.org> From: "free bsd" To: freebsd@nbritton.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:49:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 16:50:01.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC99F9D0:01C4F98F] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enabling 2nd NIC for router function on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:50:02 -0000 >free bsd wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I'm seaching how to configure my FreeBSD-PXE boot server so, that i can >>use it as a zebra router. >> >>My configuration: >> >>PC104 >>- 1 intel NIC (works as fxp0) >>- 2 Realtec RTL8019AS NIC's (only 1 will show up as ed0) >> >>So the problem is: Only 1 (one) of my realtec network card's works. >> >>Configuration at this moment (but tryed many others like ed only in stead >>of ed0 etc.) >> >># ISA Ethernet NICs. >># 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' >>device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 >> >>If you require more info to answer please ask! Were stuck up here! >> >> >Have you tried this?: >device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 >device ed1 at isa? port foo irq foo iomem foo > >Have you played with the PnP OS mode in the BIOS? >Have you manually tried to configure the cards (using the config boot disk >to change the pnp resouces it uses)? > Yes, we tryed all of this kind... nothing seems to work... maybe we are forgetting something? _________________________________________________________________ Chatten met je online vrienden via MSN Messenger. http://messenger.msn.nl/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:08:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DB316A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nbritton.org (ns4.nukezone.com [207.44.152.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA0743D5E for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@ns4.nukezone.com) Received: from localhost (freebsd@localhost) by nbritton.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0DI8uM16141; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:08:56 -0600 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:08:51 -0600 (CST) From: freebsd To: free bsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd@nbritton.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enabling 2nd NIC for router function on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:58 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, free bsd wrote: > >free bsd wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I'm seaching how to configure my FreeBSD-PXE boot server so, that i can > >>use it as a zebra router. > >> > >>My configuration: > >> > >>PC104 > >>- 1 intel NIC (works as fxp0) > >>- 2 Realtec RTL8019AS NIC's (only 1 will show up as ed0) > >> > >>So the problem is: Only 1 (one) of my realtec network card's works. > >> > >>Configuration at this moment (but tryed many others like ed only in stead > >>of ed0 etc.) > >> > >># ISA Ethernet NICs. > >># 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' > >>device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > >> > >>If you require more info to answer please ask! Were stuck up here! > >> > >> > >Have you tried this?: > >device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > >device ed1 at isa? port foo irq foo iomem foo > > > >Have you played with the PnP OS mode in the BIOS? > >Have you manually tried to configure the cards (using the config boot disk > >to change the pnp resouces it uses)? > > > > Yes, we tryed all of this kind... nothing seems to work... maybe we are > forgetting something? > Then I don't know, I've never used the ed device and I haven't use ISA for years. send this to the freebsd-questions mailing list. what version of FreeBSD are you using (uname -a) and send them a copy of dmesg too. did you try moving it to a diffrent slot? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:13:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8809A16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:13:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F24743D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:13:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so641120wri for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:13:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=J7id78V/kPogMA3eJRNvYHi5FELMfL0Pv2v0Xmg1nuO4fzYx4XXYUAI5xYZbjmUmxmhjHnfrw4zFuBEVdsRCSyQpjH9qn/wju1WqV3a8mZ3GivBWpvR7wECd/Yefb0nAuGVjvIj8hFBTDjmymQJAdnluXOQlXIeFd12uHkKvoDc= Received: by 10.54.21.38 with SMTP id 38mr97050wru; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.46.25 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:13:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b0501131013ecc835a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:13:12 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: freebsd In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd@nbritton.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: free bsd Subject: Re: Enabling 2nd NIC for router function on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:13:13 -0000 I was going to ask if you have verified that the NIC does in fact work. In moving slots, try moving the working NIC to the slot that had the not-working NIC. If the card is supported (and it obviously is since you are using one already) my feeling would be that it is either a bad NIC or a bad slot. -wtgee On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:08:51 -0600 (CST), freebsd wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, free bsd wrote: > > > >free bsd wrote: > > > > > >>Hi, > > >> > > >>I'm seaching how to configure my FreeBSD-PXE boot server so, that i can > > >>use it as a zebra router. > > >> > > >>My configuration: > > >> > > >>PC104 > > >>- 1 intel NIC (works as fxp0) > > >>- 2 Realtec RTL8019AS NIC's (only 1 will show up as ed0) > > >> > > >>So the problem is: Only 1 (one) of my realtec network card's works. > > >> > > >>Configuration at this moment (but tryed many others like ed only in stead > > >>of ed0 etc.) > > >> > > >># ISA Ethernet NICs. > > >># 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' > > >>device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > > >> > > >>If you require more info to answer please ask! Were stuck up here! > > >> > > >> > > >Have you tried this?: > > >device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > > >device ed1 at isa? port foo irq foo iomem foo > > > > > >Have you played with the PnP OS mode in the BIOS? > > >Have you manually tried to configure the cards (using the config boot disk > > >to change the pnp resouces it uses)? > > > > > > > Yes, we tryed all of this kind... nothing seems to work... maybe we are > > forgetting something? > > > > Then I don't know, I've never used the ed device and I haven't use ISA for > years. send this to the freebsd-questions mailing list. what version of > FreeBSD are you using (uname -a) and send them a copy of dmesg too. did > you try moving it to a diffrent slot? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:49:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACE416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:49:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pluto.phpwebhosting.com (pluto.phpwebhosting.com [69.0.209.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BAD643D54 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:49:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: (qmail 8746 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 20:49:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rand) (69.152.101.1) by pluto.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 20:49:29 -0000 From: "Keith Bottner" To: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:49:33 -0600 Organization: Barking Lizards Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcT5sWF775+aa9fCTk+OpvHDl1W2MQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:49:32 -0000 First let me say that I am definitely a newbie to FreeBSD but not to Linux or Windows. I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like. Specifically I am trying to get the Apache log4cxx source to compile and of course I am running into problems with automake, aclocal, autoheader, autoconf and libtoolize not being in the path. I did chase them down in the /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and similar directories but placing them in the path still generates errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are missing at various stages). I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting up FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across disparate projects? I have never had this problem on Linux as they have always been properly setup on install and I want to get FreeBSD going and do it the way that is accepted as the standard so that later generalizing my project with autoconf will be standardized as well. I appreciate any feedback and realize this is a rather broad question, but hey I said I was new to FreeBSD. Keith -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:24:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BE916A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8A9043D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 3744 invoked by uid 55300); 13 Jan 2005 21:24:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:24:24 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Keith Bottner In-Reply-To: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:25 -0000 Hi Keith, I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be interested to know what others might have found effective. I have a number of different versions of the auto-tools on my machine, almost certainly as a result of installing various ports. It is worth note that one can glean some info on how the FreeBSD ports infrastructure handles this problem by looking at /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.autotools.mk. For my part, I found the details to be too 'ugly' to attempt to emulate in my work, but they are interesting all-the-same. To date I have not resorted to installing any custom, system-wide builds of any of these tools for fear of harming my ability to use the ports infrastructure and out of a desire to reduce future maintenance considerations. For the most part, I have reasonable luck simply calling the desired tool by it's installed name. (i.e., 'autoconf259' instead of 'autoconf'.) Most of these tools know where to obtain their helper files due to the PREFIX they were assigned when they themselves were 'built'. I have run into situations where aclocal got confused by multiple macro definitions (for some libtool macros in my case.) That was a bit hard to debug, and it may be rare as my research didn't turn up too many references. I think it pertinent to expand this question to freebsd-questions to include a wider audience. Certainly these are FreeBSD specific considerations, and probably not extremely arcane ones. Thanks, - Tom On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote: > First let me say that I am definitely a newbie to FreeBSD but not to Linux > or Windows. > > I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble > identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like. > Specifically I am trying to get the Apache log4cxx source to compile and of > course I am running into problems with automake, aclocal, autoheader, > autoconf and libtoolize not being in the path. I did chase them down in the > /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and similar directories but placing them in > the path still generates errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are > missing at various stages). > > I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting up > FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across disparate > projects? > > I have never had this problem on Linux as they have always been properly > setup on install and I want to get FreeBSD going and do it the way that is > accepted as the standard so that later generalizing my project with autoconf > will be standardized as well. > > I appreciate any feedback and realize this is a rather broad question, but > hey I said I was new to FreeBSD. > > Keith > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:38:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4CE16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0978C43D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1CpCfo-0005Cq-FN; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:38:32 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.132 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by www.fusemail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:38:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3296.209.87.176.132.1105652323.fusewebmail-19592@www.fusemail.com> In-Reply-To: <200501130821.52869.merv@merv.org.uk> References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <200501130821.52869.merv@merv.org.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:38:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: "merv" User-Agent: FuseWebmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:48 -0000 That's awesome. Very simple. Now how could I have it figure out if the IP address has actually changed? I only want it to email me if it changes. Sorry, I'm very fluent in Windows but have only been using FreeBSD for a couple of days. Thanks! /Brian ----- Original Message ----- > ifconfig dc0 | mail -s ip_address your@emailaddress > > Should do it if you are not using a router. > > On Thursday 13 January 2005 01:01, Brian John wrote: >> Hi, I have SSH setup on my box and home and I want to be able to SSH to >> it from work. The only problem is, my ISP uses DHCP, so my IP address >> changes. I would like to write a script to monitor my IP address and >> email me when it changes. Can somebody help me do this? >> >> Thanks >> >> /Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:47:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A765B16A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:47:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD4C43D1F; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:47:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a025.otenet.gr [212.205.215.25]) j0DLlbGh023904; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:38 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0DLla6o014741; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0DLlaTi014736; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:35 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Huppi Message-ID: <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: Keith Bottner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:47:45 -0000 PLEASE DON'T TOP-POST. THANK YOU :-) On 2005-01-13 16:24, Tom Huppi wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote: >> I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble >> identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like. >> [...] I did chase them down in the /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and >> similar directories but placing them in the path still generates >> errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are missing at various >> stages). >> >> I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting >> up FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across >> disparate projects? > > I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be > interested to know what others might have found effective. I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1]. The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant manual tweaking of the source. The best way to do that is to use the same version of autotools on all those platforms. So, I install the latest possible versions of these tools with --prefix=/opt/autotools on all the machines I have to use, and stop worrying about all the details. When I have to use the tools, I add /opt/autotools/bin at the beginning of my PATH. When I don't need them, I remove /opt/autotools/bin from my path. This has worked wonders so far. - Giorgos [1] The operative keyword here is "at work". I don't use autoconf and friends for programs I write on my own. I prefer bsd.*.mk for that. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:56:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBF816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:56:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sneezy.bossbox.com (sneezy.bossbox.com [213.228.255.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF2E43D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:56:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Received: from sneezy.bossbox.com (localhost.bossbox.com [127.0.0.1]) by sneezy.bossbox.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DLuDc5078290; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:56:13 GMT (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Received: from localhost (brian@localhost)j0DLuCOE078287; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:56:13 GMT (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:56:12 +0000 (GMT) From: "Brian O'Regan" To: Brian John In-Reply-To: <3296.209.87.176.132.1105652323.fusewebmail-19592@www.fusemail.com> Message-ID: <20050113215548.F78266@sneezy.bossbox.com> References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <200501130821.52869.merv@merv.org.uk> <3296.209.87.176.132.1105652323.fusewebmail-19592@www.fusemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: merv Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:56:19 -0000 It would probably easier all round to use a service like dyndns.org. Cheers On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Brian John wrote: > That's awesome. Very simple. Now how could I have it figure out if the > IP address has actually changed? I only want it to email me if it > changes. Sorry, I'm very fluent in Windows but have only been using > FreeBSD for a couple of days. > > Thanks! > > /Brian > > ----- Original Message ----- >> ifconfig dc0 | mail -s ip_address your@emailaddress >> >> Should do it if you are not using a router. >> >> On Thursday 13 January 2005 01:01, Brian John wrote: >>> Hi, I have SSH setup on my box and home and I want to be able to SSH to >>> it from work. The only problem is, my ISP uses DHCP, so my IP address >>> changes. I would like to write a script to monitor my IP address and >>> email me when it changes. Can somebody help me do this? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> /Brian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:55:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C23816A581 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:55:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pluto.phpwebhosting.com (pluto.phpwebhosting.com [69.0.209.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CB5B43D48 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: (qmail 20559 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 22:55:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rand) (69.152.101.1) by pluto.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 22:55:10 -0000 From: "Keith Bottner" To: "'Giorgos Keramidas'" , "'Tom Huppi'" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:55:15 -0600 Organization: Barking Lizards Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> Thread-Index: AcT5uY6anJToVyYkQM6Bq3pRJ1NIvQACO+Mg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20050113225512.7CB5B43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "'Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org'" Subject: RE: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:55:13 -0000 All of the information both of your provided is helpful. I will have to investigate further. Some of the information that Tom specified helped me to track down the problem. Basically I have multiple versions of the tools installed and there are two different directories with aclocal m4 files. If I explicitly change the shell script to also include the other directory then everything seems to continue on until compile time when there is a header that cannot be found. It appears this header alloca.h is located in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sort/alloca.h. I was just wondering if Giorgos method would also alleviate these problems or if this is just par for the course when using projects that people have not moved into the ports collection? Keith -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Giorgos Keramidas Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:48 PM To: Tom Huppi Cc: Keith Bottner; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling PLEASE DON'T TOP-POST. THANK YOU :-) On 2005-01-13 16:24, Tom Huppi wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote: >> I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble >> identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like. >> [...] I did chase them down in the /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and >> similar directories but placing them in the path still generates >> errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are missing at various >> stages). >> >> I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting >> up FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across >> disparate projects? > > I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be > interested to know what others might have found effective. I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1]. The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant manual tweaking of the source. The best way to do that is to use the same version of autotools on all those platforms. So, I install the latest possible versions of these tools with --prefix=/opt/autotools on all the machines I have to use, and stop worrying about all the details. When I have to use the tools, I add /opt/autotools/bin at the beginning of my PATH. When I don't need them, I remove /opt/autotools/bin from my path. This has worked wonders so far. - Giorgos [1] The operative keyword here is "at work". I don't use autoconf and friends for programs I write on my own. I prefer bsd.*.mk for that. _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 23:57:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CCC16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:57:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7615443D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:57:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CpF7L-0004d6-9R for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:15:07 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:57:29 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200501102309.26168.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> <41E4FD2F.40607@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41E4FD2F.40607@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501132357.30053.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:57:31 -0000 On Wednesday 12 January 2005 10:34, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Xian wrote: > >I found a picture of Beastie in one of the files in /boot and used it in > > my motd so it shows up when someone logs in. I've attached it. To see it > > properly use cat to display it on a terminal. If you use a text editor > > the escape codes show up and it looks horrible. > >Nothing else looks as cool as Free BSD ;-) > > Put loader_color="YES" into /boot/loader.conf and it will use that color > beastie you found in the boot menu. Cheers. Even better now :) -- /Xian "We waste time, so you don't have to" unknown author From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 00:07:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0F116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:07:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6590E43D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:07:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CpF0D-000K12-0b for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:07:45 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:07:44 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050108170052.28548.qmail@gawab.com> <200501121846.00477.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501140007.44584.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Subject: Re: File System mounting prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:07:46 -0000 Cheers. I'll have that working in no time now On Thursday 13 January 2005 02:02, David Adam wrote: > unfortunately, they're written in a weird looking language. > They're understandable, but only just. That weird language is something that the man command can deal with. If you look at the other man pages on your system they are the same. zmore /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz I found this out when I wanted to write a man page for a project of mine, and I thought it might be in a language like HTML. No such luck. It appears it has references to macros or something. (I gave up on writing the man page in man language and used a text editor) Anyway, they way to get round that I found is to put those man pages you mentioned into /usr/share/man/man5 -- /Xian "C lets you shoot yourself in the foot. C++ lets you reuse the bullet" Unknown Author From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 00:54:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1942916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:54:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asclepius.uwa.edu.au (asclepius3.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E8843D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:54:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zanchey@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from asclepius.kas (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D55A184937 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:54:44 +0800 (WST) Received: from asclepius (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.prekas (Postfix) with SMTP id F339D18491C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:54:43 +0800 (WST) X-UWA-Client-IP: 130.95.13.9 (UWA) Received: from mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.9]) by asclepius.input (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA0218491E for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:54:43 +0800 (WST) Received: by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 801) id 5677917F5D; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:54:43 +0800 (WST) Received: from mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.18]) by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C420117F5B; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:54:36 +0800 (WST) Received: from zanchey (helo=localhost) by mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CpFjY-0001MT-00; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:54:36 +0800 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:54:36 +0800 (WST) From: David Adam To: Xian In-Reply-To: <200501140007.44584.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Message-ID: References: <20050108170052.28548.qmail@gawab.com> <200501121846.00477.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> <200501140007.44584.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: David Adam X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Formal (192/041231) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Detect Hard [UCS 290904] X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: SysLog X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Marking Spam - Subject (UCS) [02-08-04] X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File System mounting prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:54:46 -0000 > On Thursday 13 January 2005 02:02, David Adam wrote: > > unfortunately, they're written in a weird looking language. > > They're understandable, but only just. > > That weird language is something that the man command can deal with. If you > look at the other man pages on your system they are the same. > > zmore /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz Wow. Now *that* is a useful command. Why doesn't the docproj pages mention that? > I found this out when I wanted to write a man page for a project of mine, and > I thought it might be in a language like HTML. No such luck. It appears it > has references to macros or something. (I gave up on writing the man page in > man language and used a text editor) It's called nroff from memory... very oldskool UNIX. Cheers, David Adam zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:13:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA6B16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:13:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C36143D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 82619 invoked by uid 55300); 14 Jan 2005 01:13:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:13:49 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Keith Bottner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:13:50 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1]. > > The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating > systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant > manual tweaking of the source. At work (former), I was responsible for code which was to *compile* on 6 or 7 different platforms. I choose one (often my FreeBSD workstation) upon which to execute the auto-tools and didn't bother with most of the others though I kept a compatible set of these tools on Linux and Solaris for convenience. Indeed, the whole paradigm behind these tools is that they should _not_ be needed on the target platform. 'autoconf' goes to great pains to generate platform independent Bourne shell configure script for a very good reason! Unfortunately too many people either misunderstand the paradigm and/or or mis-use the tools and I suspect that this is a good portion of the reason why the FreeBSD ports infrastructure needs to play so many silly games with the auto-tools. Properly speaking, the target platform shouldn't need them at all, but I'm sure there are details of certain source distributions which I am not aware of. Thanks, - Tom > The best way to do that is to use the same version of autotools on all > those platforms. So, I install the latest possible versions of these > tools with --prefix=/opt/autotools on all the machines I have to use, > and stop worrying about all the details. > > When I have to use the tools, I add /opt/autotools/bin at the beginning > of my PATH. When I don't need them, I remove /opt/autotools/bin from my > path. > > This has worked wonders so far. > > - Giorgos > > > > [1] The operative keyword here is "at work". I don't use autoconf and > friends for programs I write on my own. I prefer bsd.*.mk for that. > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:04:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9F216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:04:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCE843D5C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050114020431i9100bpin7e>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:04:31 +0000 Message-ID: <41E728AD.2050000@nbritton.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:04:29 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Bottner References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:04:32 -0000 Keith Bottner wrote: >First let me say that I am definitely a newbie to FreeBSD but not to Linux >or Windows. > >I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble >identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like. >Specifically I am trying to get the Apache log4cxx source to compile and of >course I am running into problems with automake, aclocal, autoheader, >autoconf and libtoolize not being in the path. I did chase them down in the >/usr/local/libexec/automake18 and similar directories but placing them in >the path still generates errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are >missing at various stages). > >I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting up >FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across disparate >projects? > >I have never had this problem on Linux as they have always been properly >setup on install and I want to get FreeBSD going and do it the way that is >accepted as the standard so that later generalizing my project with autoconf >will be standardized as well. > >I appreciate any feedback and realize this is a rather broad question, but >hey I said I was new to FreeBSD. > > You do know about the ports (and packages) system, correct? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 06:03:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A9B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:03:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asclepius.uwa.edu.au (asclepius3.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFE243D45 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:03:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zanchey@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from asclepius.kas (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 52EC0183F89 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:03:33 +0800 (WST) Received: from asclepius (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.prekas (Postfix) with SMTP id 3740E184A41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:03:33 +0800 (WST) X-UWA-Client-IP: 130.95.13.9 (UWA) Received: from mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.9]) by asclepius.input (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104A8183F89 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:03:33 +0800 (WST) Received: by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 801) id 5898917F3F; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:03:32 +0800 (WST) Received: from mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.18]) by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D837017E9B; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:03:31 +0800 (WST) Received: from zanchey (helo=localhost) by mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CpKYV-0004lk-00; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:03:31 +0800 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:03:31 +0800 (WST) From: David Adam To: Brian John In-Reply-To: <3296.209.87.176.132.1105652323.fusewebmail-19592@www.fusemail.com> Message-ID: References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <200501130821.52869.merv@merv.org.uk> <3296.209.87.176.132.1105652323.fusewebmail-19592@www.fusemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1602359821-863134493-1105682611=:16100" Sender: David Adam X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Formal (192/041231) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Detect Hard [UCS 290904] X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: SysLog X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Marking Spam - Subject (UCS) [02-08-04] X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: merv Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:03:35 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1602359821-863134493-1105682611=:16100 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > That's awesome. Very simple. Now how could I have it figure out if the > IP address has actually changed? I only want it to email me if it > changes. Sorry, I'm very fluent in Windows but have only been using > FreeBSD for a couple of days. Hi Brian, Although you're getting a lot of people telling you to go with the dyndns, I think that you're probably doing the right thing from a simplicity point of view. I had no end of trouble getting the No-IP client running under FreeBSD (although that may have a lot to do with the crappiness of my ISP, and their bizarre cable login program). I think what you want to do is schedule a cronjob (like a Scheduled Task or at command on Windows) to run a script that looks something like the attached. Make sure you change the variables at the top: Change the line that says IFACE="xl0" to set the interface you are watching. Change the line that says IPFILE="/var/tmp/ipfile" to something that the user you are running cron as will have access to (should be ok there). Change the line that says EADDRESS="zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au" to use your e-mail address. I don't want your IP updates :-) If you need help learning how to schedule a cron job, ping the list again and one of us should be able to help out. (Incidentally, this won't run on 4.x, as it requires the -m option to grep in order to avoid choking on interfaces with more than one IP. I'm sure there's a way around this using awk or something.) HTH, David Adam zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au --1602359821-863134493-1105682611=:16100 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=scriptfile Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: ip-watch-script Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=scriptfile IyEgL2Jpbi9zaA0KIyMjDQojIFNjcmlwdCB0byB3YXRjaCBmb3IgSVAgYWRk cmVzcyBjaGFuZ2VzIGFuZCBtYWlsIHdoZW4gdGhleSBoYXBwZW4NCiMgV2ls bCBwZXJmb3JtLi4uIHVtLCB1bnByZWRpY3RhYmx5LCB3aXRoIG11bHRpcGxl IElQIGFkZHJlc3NlcyBwZXIgaW50ZXJmYWNlDQojIFdyaXR0ZW4gSmFudWFy eSAyMDA1IGJ5IERhdmlkIEFkYW0gKHphbmNoZXlAdWNjLmd1LnV3YS5lZHUu YXUpDQoNCiMjIyBDSEFOR0UgVEhFU0UgVkFSSUFCTEVTIQ0KIyBJbnRlcmZh Y2UgdG8gd2F0Y2gNCklGQUNFPSJ4bDAiDQojIEZpbGUgdG8gdXNlDQpJUEZJ TEU9Ii92YXIvdG1wL2lwZmlsZSINCiMgQWRkcmVzcyB0byBtYWlsDQpFQURE UkVTUz0iemFuY2hleUB1Y2MuZ3UudXdhLmVkdS5hdSINCg0KIyBHZXQgY3Vy cmVudCBJUA0KDQpDVVJSRU5UX0lQPSQoaWZjb25maWcgJElGQUNFIHxncmVw IC1tIDEgImluZXQgIiB8YXdrICd7cHJpbnQgJDJ9JyApDQoNCmlmIFsgISAt ZiAkSVBGSUxFIF07IHRoZW4NCiAgdG91Y2ggJElQRklMRQ0KICBlY2hvICRD VVJSRU5UX0lQID4gJElQRklMRSAgDQpmaQ0KDQojIEdldCBwcmV2aW91cyBJ UA0KDQpQUkVWSU9VU19JUD0kKGNhdCAkSVBGSUxFKQ0KDQojZWNobyAiUHJl dmlvdXMgSVAgd2FzICRQUkVWSU9VU19JUCINCg0KaWYgWyAiJENVUlJFTlRf SVAiICE9ICIkUFJFVklPVVNfSVAiIF07IHRoZW4NCiMgICBlY2hvICJJUHMg YXJlIGRpZmZlcmVudCEiDQojICAgZWNobyAiQ3VycmVudCBJUCBpcyAkQ1VS UkVOVF9JUCINCiAgIG1haWwgLXMgIklQIENoYW5nZTogJENVUlJFTlRfSVAi ICAkRUFERFJFU1MgPDwgRU9NDQpUaGUgSVAgb2YgeW91ciBzeXN0ZW0gaGFz IGNoYW5nZWQgZnJvbSAkUFJFVklPVVNfSVAgdG8gJENVUlJFTlRfSVAuDQpF T00NCmZpDQoNCmVjaG8gIiRDVVJSRU5UX0lQIiA+ICRJUEZJTEUNCg== --1602359821-863134493-1105682611=:16100-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 07:10:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FFB16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB3943D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([192.168.55.1]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:10:12 -0800 Message-ID: <41E7704E.3050901@finnovative.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:10:06 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 07:10:12.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[173A36F0:01C4FA08] Subject: HELP: video for VIA/S3G CLE266 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:13 -0000 Hi, Thanks for the great instructions for furnning xorgconfig and the handbook. I was wondering what to pick for the video driver in xorgconfig. There's no option for VIA/S3G CLE266. VIA ships with a Linux driver (DRI.TGZ and CLEXF400030). :-\ The chipset comes on the VIA PD10000 mobo (http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_PD_spec.jsp?motherboardId=241) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 07:10:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD6316A4EC for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAF943D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([192.168.55.1]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:10:18 -0800 Message-ID: <41E77055.5030101@finnovative.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:10:13 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 07:10:18.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AB10E30:01C4FA08] Subject: HELP: video for VIA/S3G CLE266 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:19 -0000 Hi, Thanks for the great instructions for furnning xorgconfig and the handbook. I was wondering what to pick for the video driver in xorgconfig. There's no option for VIA/S3G CLE266. VIA ships with a Linux driver (DRI.TGZ and CLEXF400030). :-\ The chipset comes on the VIA PD10000 mobo (http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_PD_spec.jsp?motherboardId=241) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 08:11:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CAA16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:11:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992F843D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:11:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([192.168.55.1]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:11:02 -0800 Message-ID: <41E77E68.5060406@finnovative.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:10:16 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaquin Menchaca References: <41E7704E.3050901@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41E7704E.3050901@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 08:11:02.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[96855E00:01C4FA10] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: video for VIA/S3G CLE266 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:11:03 -0000 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the great instructions for furnning xorgconfig and the > handbook. I was wondering what to pick for the video driver in > xorgconfig. There's no option for VIA/S3G CLE266. VIA ships with a > Linux driver (DRI.TGZ and CLEXF400030). :-\ The chipset comes on the > VIA PD10000 mobo > (http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_PD_spec.jsp?motherboardId=241) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, I found these links. It looks like I might have to build something. Would I have to rebuild Xorg? :'( http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/ http://cvs.freedesktop.org/xorg/xc/lib/XvMC/hw/via/ http://www.ivor.it/cle266/ http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD/ Would I have to get the latest xorg + these drivers with some sort of package manager? How can I tell the current version of Xorg that I am running? Could I just compile these drivers? If so, how do I get them to work, and how do I get it into the system so that I can select them? -- joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 08:53:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1D616A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:53:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from alpha.it.teithe.gr (alpha.it.teithe.gr [195.251.240.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCB443D58 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:53:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pstal@it.teithe.gr) Received: from [192.168.69.244] (ppp43-ax.noc.teithe.gr [195.251.120.43]) by alpha.it.teithe.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0E8rSTS018413 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:53:29 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E7889A.1020307@it.teithe.gr> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:53:46 +0200 From: P Stalidis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41E57DD1.5060600@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41E57DD1.5060600@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:53:43 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > James Mathers wrote: > >> >> Thanks very much - this solved my problem. >> >> > np. If you don't need USB I'd just leave usb disabled (I'm assuming > you disabled it in the BIOS)... but if you do need it you have a few > options... You could play with the BIOS settings (legacy mode, etc > etc). You could disable the extra usb controllers in freebsd (or > something like that). Or you could apply the kernel patch (kern/72492) > to your system. I'd play with the BIOS settings first and if that > didn't work I'd do the patch because it looks like a relatively strait > foreword and simple fix: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=72492 > > If you have anymore questions about this subject I'd post them to the > freebsd-questions mailing list and not here as they will be more > competent at answering your technical questions then newbies helping > newbies. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I agree about technical question being sent to the questions-list but being newbies in fbsd deosn't mean that all people here are newbies in computers... I'd also like to add that many "newbies" that are not in the questions-list can benefit from listening to other peoples questions so I would suggest that they subscribe to the questions-list... From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 09:07:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D3916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:07:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D04B43D48 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:07:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 98661 invoked by uid 55300); 14 Jan 2005 09:07:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:07:54 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Joaquin Menchaca In-Reply-To: <41E77E68.5060406@finnovative.net> Message-ID: References: <41E7704E.3050901@finnovative.net> <41E77E68.5060406@finnovative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: video for VIA/S3G CLE266 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:07:55 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the great instructions for furnning xorgconfig and the > > handbook. I was wondering what to pick for the video driver in > > xorgconfig. There's no option for VIA/S3G CLE266. VIA ships with a > > Linux driver (DRI.TGZ and CLEXF400030). :-\ The chipset comes on the > > VIA PD10000 mobo > > (http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_PD_spec.jsp?motherboardId=241) > > Hi, > > I found these links. It looks like I might have to build something. > Would I have to rebuild Xorg? :'( > > http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/ > http://cvs.freedesktop.org/xorg/xc/lib/XvMC/hw/via/ > http://www.ivor.it/cle266/ > http://apollo.backplane.com/FreeBSD/ > > Would I have to get the latest xorg + these drivers with some sort of > package manager? How can I tell the current version of Xorg that I am > running? Could I just compile these drivers? If so, how do I get them > to work, and how do I get it into the system so that I can select them? I doubt that you can just compile a newer chipset specific server and have it work, but even if you can, it would probably be more technically challenging than using the ports collection to update the whole thing (or the packages which I know little about.) To get the version, --- thuppi@agama ~> X -version X Window System Version 6.8.1 Release Date: 17 September 2004 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1 ... --- I just built and installed xorg from the ports collection to try to get rid of all references to 'libc_r' which was crashing certain applications on my 5.3 system (upgraded from 5.1 via buildworld.) It was not too bad...just took a long time on my old machine. I suggest (if using 'ports' rather than 'packages') that one maybe does a 'cd ...x11/xorg make', then after it builds sucessfully pkg_delete the XFree86 stuff, then go back and 'make install'. This will allow normal use of the machine for the day or so it takes to build xorg. Since this wasn't the route I took I can't say conclusivly that it would work, but I think it should be fine. Maybe you should also review some of the other discusions of such an upgrade via google. Also, on one of my machines, 'startx' didn't work after the upgrade. I had to run /usr/X11R6/bin/xorgconfig. Might want to make sure you know your you monitor specs, but looking at the old /etc/XF86Config will tell you what you had been using. On my other (also ancient) machine with a similar history, xorg worked fine using the old XF86Config file. Keep us posted about progress if you could. I wish to get one of these VIA machines, but I'm holding out for better availability of boards with the newer CM400 chipset. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 09:49:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6692B16A4CE; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD38A43D45; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0E9mwNd031493; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:59 +0200 Received: by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E6B212A430; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:58 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:58 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Huppi Message-ID: <20050114094858.GC30089@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: Keith Bottner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:06 -0000 On 2005-01-13 20:13, Tom Huppi wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1]. >> >> The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating >> systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant >> manual tweaking of the source. > > At work (former), I was responsible for code which was to *compile* on > 6 or 7 different platforms. I choose one (often my FreeBSD > workstation) upon which to execute the auto-tools and didn't bother > with most of the others though I kept a compatible set of these tools > on Linux and Solaris for convenience. Very well said. I'd only like to note that the important thing to note here is: 'a compatible set of these tools' > Indeed, the whole paradigm behind these tools is that they should > _not_ be needed on the target platform. 'autoconf' goes to great > pains to generate platform independent Bourne shell configure script > for a very good reason! The compatibility problems are usually encountered long before the program reaches 'the target platform'. The generated Bourne shell scripts are indeed very platform independent. The autoconf/automake stuff used to write them is not though. > Unfortunately too many people either misunderstand the paradigm and/or > or mis-use the tools and I suspect that this is a good portion of the > reason why the FreeBSD ports infrastructure needs to play so many > silly games with the auto-tools. No, the reason the Ports go through all the hoops you see is that they are meant to be used by people who don't care or don't need to know the internals of the autotools. They just need a version that 'works good enough for installing port foo/bar-1.2.3'. One other reason is, of course, the fact that the autotools have changed and are constantly changing the 'canonical' way of writing their input files. This is both a good and bad thing, depending on the viewpoint. It is a good thing, because it shows that they are alive, actively maintained projects. It is a bad thing, because every time a developer tries to regenerate the `configure' scripts and all associated files with a mismatched autotools version, they are forced to either: a) install the exact same versions the original configure.ac scripts have been written for, or b) abandon the idea of using autotools altogether. I usually go for (a), if I have a choise. The ports people do not have that choise, because they need to support programs coming from various sources, with the minimal amount of changes to the original program source. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCE516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C66A43D45 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0EJAN9E030109 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:23 GMT (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0EJANGH030107 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:23 GMT (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:23 GMT From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200501141910.j0EJANGH030107@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:24 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 22:31:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5616A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:31:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB7043D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:31:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from madtux@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so875305wri for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NzfDKimF57+T4o/V5Q69t240jeAUtrvsNud2ozRtk6wEFOPCoevC+X9E5HF2wXBUsBHV6qdi07tOX7ODdmEpBpIH/jxMF52a2fj/U9F0ku6DAndrAKCChCLZvSAl6Hy+l3P4J5yvm2i32F95QslrzlA5XxcG63m2KNgonhu4olw= Received: by 10.54.4.2 with SMTP id 2mr388006wrd; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.61 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:31:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ddb7bf805011514312fb08c91@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:31:03 -0500 From: ".:MadTux:." To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41E5C873.4030401@fusemail.com> <200501130821.52869.merv@merv.org.uk> <3296.209.87.176.132.1105652323.fusewebmail-19592@www.fusemail.com> cc: Brian John Subject: Re: Need to monitor when IP Address changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ".:MadTux:." List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:31:05 -0000 A trick that I use if a little script that sends the output of ifconfig to a text file and uploads it to a password-protected web address via FTP. When I need to see what my IP is, I just log into my protected page and view the current IP. I have a cron job scheduled every hour to run the script, and since it's a tiny file, it's not a major thing to haev run every hour. Here's the contents of the script (which runs on 4.7 thru 4.10): /sbin/ifconfig fxp0 | ncftpput -c -u username -p password domain /path/to/file/location/my_ip Example with fields filled in: /sbin/ifconfig fxp0 | ncftpput -c -u madtux -p secretpassword google.com /home/google/www/protected_directory/my_ip ..where "my_ip" is both the output of the command and the filename. To actually view the file, point yer trusty browser to http://www.mydomain/protected_directory/my_ip and provide the secret answer, after which you'll see the output of ifconfig. I had written something a little cleaner that pulls the IP from the stdout and writes it to a temp file, which is then uploaded, but I can't find it now :P Anyway, hope that helps. -Kevin -- A PC without Windows is like a cup of coffee without ketchup.