From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 01:19:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC01E16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:19:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E03143D2D for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:19:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody.holland@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so128864wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:19:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gQXO697iyokw6jr847vZcbhaWplrQXXuiJUMt6b1AYmlCwDhdP7A7znkSGSz5rvszsjkNVSnfmBxSKsQc/A/VFj3L3DODFI77hrNtajyZhNuDT+45dN0+mi+zLkv2rHpjwHuaAHUl/UihRfI3QRTAeQEmuDW9HFO4QeloCQxeKI= Received: by 10.54.45.52 with SMTP id s52mr43853wrs; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.45.2 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:19:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:19:50 -0600 From: Cody Holland To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Upgrading Automake X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cody Holland List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:19:54 -0000 This may sound kinda dumb, but I'm pretty new to the FreeBSD environment. I'm trying to add an new package and am getting: This port is deprecated; you may wish to reconsider installing it: Please use devel/automake19 instead. Stop in /usr/ports/devel/automake15. *** Error code 1 So I went and installed the port for automake19....but when i go to add the package it still tries to use automake15. Can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 04:37:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424A116A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 04:37:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp817.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp817.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D979743D46 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 04:37:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.24.8 with login) by smtp817.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2005 04:37:49 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:37:48 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> <5.1.0.14.2.20050122124107.02abe830@209.152.117.178> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501222037.49401.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Tom Huppi cc: "W. D." Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 04:37:50 -0000 On Saturday 22 January 2005 11:56 am, Tom Huppi wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, W. D. wrote: > > At 04:15 1/22/2005, Tom Huppi wrote: > > >It's only been recently that I've taken an interest in seeking out > > >lightweight software. > > > > Any other tips? Which window manager/GUI do you recommend? > > Unfortunately, no. I've only recently taken to researching this > problem and have no first-hand experience with any of the tools > I've run across. I've always used 'fvwm2' since that's what I set > up on my first FreeBSD box circa '98 and it's served my needs in > this area fine. My needs are, however, limited. I'm more > comfortable starting the applications I need from an xterm, and > indeed, I spend quite a lot of time in an xterm doing one thing or > another. I suspect that 'fvwm2' fits into the 'lightweight' > category, but it's by happenstance. It seems that many of the > Linux distributions which aim to conquer the problem of running > well on dated hardware choose IceWM (iirc.) Personally, I like xfce, though that is a desktop (wm, panel, taskbar, etc.) rather than simply a window manager. Even so, it's quite quick and light. That, coupled with its simplicity, has made it very popular on kiosks as well as desktops. Fluxbox and Window Maker are good examples of lightweight (but not too light), highly configurable window managers. I often use Window Maker when I have to use Cygwin on a Win32 machine. > Anyone else have any tips or thoughts? I notice 'firefox' is > happy to gobble down 50M and often significantly more with Xorg > similar on my 5.3 system. It is very fortunate that FreeBSD's VM > subsystem is intelligent enough to adapt else I am certain I would > be having a lot more swapping on the box I'm currently using. > I'm wondering if either of these applications themselves are > 'smart' enough to adapt a bit to limited resources, or if there > are any ways to build them specially to be a bit lighter. Well, Firefox in my experience runs about the same as Mozilla, but I have several extensions. You might want to try deinstalling the extensions, but Firefox isn't *that* light, at least not when you're getting into memory footprints smaller than 30M. It's just for that reason that I keep w3m around, plus the fact that it renders some sites more readable or usable. Of course that's a text browser, but you'd be surprised how well it can work (except if you really like multimedia websites, but then you probably wouldn't be thinking much about memory if so). Dillo is good, but it was originally a tool meant for production environments, although it's been cleaned up a bit, and it's nice and snappy and does well with basic websurfing (as well as w3c compliance). Galeon is based on the Gecko engine used in Mozilla/Firefox, but it's supposed to be lighter (not quite so in my experience). When it gets into GUI stuff, most of it is going to be pretty heavy these days, especially because so much of it is hooked into large graphic toolkits and/or even larger user environments. The tried and true console apps still work well, such as Mutt for an email client, w3m for web, vim for text editing, etc. Incidentally, I just discovered ctorrent, a BitTorrent console client written entirely in C. It's much faster and more efficient than any other torrent client I've used, and it's not full of bugs like most of the GUI clients are (even Azureus, which I like). Many times, simple is better for more than one reason. - jt From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 05:11:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DB816A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:11:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75A1043D41 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:11:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.24.8 with login) by smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2005 05:11:17 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:11:17 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501222111.17212.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Subject: Recommendations for PCI video card X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:11:17 -0000 OK, I know this is an open-ended subject, but here goes ... I'm hoping to find something decent as a ... PCI video card. I have a mobo with an AGP slot, but it's currently taken by an ATI Radeon 9600XT which works ok for 2d in FreeBSD, but it doesn't use the onboard memory, which slows things down considerably. I want to keep the ATI card for Windows games, otherwise I'd replace it with something different. I'm not entirely sure what the chipsets were in some of the older cards, and video cards seem to be hit and miss, so is there anyone who could give a recommendation for a decent PCI card that works reliably on FreeBSD? Decent meaning, can handle 3d and has enough memory for a workstation, but is not a gaming card by today's standards (although probably no PCI card is anymore). - jt From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 07:00:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFB616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:00:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2DB43D2F for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:00:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 141B985657; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:30:34 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:30:34 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Keith Bottner Message-ID: <20050123070034.GI85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050121212021.EC93A43D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="m972NQjnE83KvVa/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050121212021.EC93A43D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: regexec for filtering files in a directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:00:38 -0000 --m972NQjnE83KvVa/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 15:18:21 -0600, Keith Bottner wrote: > I am trying to use the regcomp and regexec methods to filter files from a > directory; however, the regexec function always says that it matches the > pattern. Is there any problems with the regex functions? Or something in the > code that I am just missing? Or is there just a better way to do what I am > trying to do? Yes. Ask the question on FreeBSD-questions. This question is off-topic for the newbies list, and it's questions like this that risk shutting it down. You'll get better results on -questions. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --m972NQjnE83KvVa/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB80uSIubykFB6QiMRAoXCAJ4/p4d/QxDfcpmyGCb2AgXJ8wKlqACfThWn Kv9NxgCR/CgyhCGKTIA2lWk= =qqnC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m972NQjnE83KvVa/-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 07:02:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FBE16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:02:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB1D43D2F for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:02:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C75BA85639; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:32:28 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:32:28 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Carleton Vaughn , Darren Pilgrim Message-ID: <20050123070228.GJ85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <41EF2230.7080902@mindspring.com> <001601c50018$211693b0$142a15ac@spud> <41EC5DA7.6000202@fusemail.com> <41EF2230.7080902@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IbVRjBtIbJdbeK1C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001601c50018$211693b0$142a15ac@spud> <41EF2230.7080902@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to setup fstab for DVD, floppy and CD drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:02:32 -0000 --IbVRjBtIbJdbeK1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 19 January 2005 at 22:14:56 -0500, Carleton Vaughn wrote: > Brian John wrote: >> Hello, >> I have a DVD writer, a CD writer and a floppy drive in my PC. Since I >> don't know what file system that a media will use until I put it in the >> drive, how do I set it up in fstab? This is what it looks like right >> now for these devices: >> /dev/acd0 /cdrom auto rw,noauto 0 0 >> /dev/acd1 /cdrom1 auto rw,noauto 0 0 >> /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto 0 0 >> >> The problem is, when I click on a device, it says: "mount: exec >> mount_auto not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or directory >> Please check that the disk is entered correctly." >> >> How can I get this to work? > "auto" is in the FStype field, and your mounter is trying to find the > mount program for a file system of type "auto". There's no such thing. > Change "auto" to "cd9660" for the cd & dvd and all will be happy. > Might I suggest changing one of acd[01]'s mount point to /dvd? This > might clear up any later confusion. > > Someone else probably better understands what "auto" in fstab is > supposed to do. On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 16:20:02 -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >> From: Carleton Vaughn >> >> Brian John wrote: >>> /dev/acd0 /cdrom auto rw,noauto 0 0 > <...> >>> "mount: exec mount_auto not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or >>> directory. Please check that the disk is entered correctly." >>> >>> How can I get this to work? >> >> "auto" is in the FStype field, and your mounter is trying to find the >> mount program for a file system of type "auto". There's no such thing. > <...> >> Someone else probably better understands what "auto" in fstab is >> supposed to do. Please don't ask or answer technical questions on -newbies. It's off-topic, and the list is in danger of being shut down as a result. Ask technical questions on FreeBSD-questions. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --IbVRjBtIbJdbeK1C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB80wEIubykFB6QiMRAggzAJ4rKQb3psXefkzsl6DC/32N3DK1nQCfSpuq CbmQrM+pWAxyFQ6dgTyXXMw= =1IIu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IbVRjBtIbJdbeK1C-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 07:16:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8538016A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:16:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C605E43D2D for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:16:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A362085639; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:45:59 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:45:59 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Cody Holland Message-ID: <20050123071559.GL85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NqSa+Xr3J/G6Hhls" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Automake X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:16:03 -0000 --NqSa+Xr3J/G6Hhls Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 22 January 2005 at 19:19:50 -0600, Cody Holland wrote: > This may sound kinda dumb, but I'm pretty new to the FreeBSD > environment. I'm trying to add an new package and am getting: > > This port is deprecated; you may wish to reconsider installing it: > Please use devel/automake19 instead. > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/automake15. > *** Error code 1 > > So I went and installed the port for automake19....but when i go to > add the package it still tries to use automake15. Can anyone tell me > what i'm doing wrong? Well, the most obvious thing is that you're asking your question on the wrong list. This list is not for technical questions; use FreeBSD-questions for that. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --NqSa+Xr3J/G6Hhls Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB808vIubykFB6QiMRAoT4AKCMwSusl4rwPbqZf5I90CRJRX0rjwCfaZbw 1J54US5y6UpCDVG0X0B8jEA= =iV23 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NqSa+Xr3J/G6Hhls-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 08:10:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC60916A4CE; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:10:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAAA43D1F; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:10:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A535823; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16576-03; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 630D057A9; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050123081002.630D057A9@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-01-02 - 2005-01-22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:10:17 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 08:11:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A6A16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:11:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BAD43D2F for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tanja.pislar@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so141301wri for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:11:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lfp2soQCiKAhDRlFiinYmYxC0B0Xqdu5HW+jEYNwO3u6E4ToU/pHkmnRziIHyEwMEpbtpyczUVy6kaqYgqC+ahOuCm5VxXYbYadRBepkdQ/DTot4EhMUg/bVD0Tj6+g2q1/cqCGR6uukGRyyMXS2Pkp30G+KMygqAfvZhMXBOuc= Received: by 10.54.48.73 with SMTP id v73mr45231wrv; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.27.75 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:11:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:11:48 +0100 From: tanja pislar To: Herbert Feutl In-Reply-To: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tanja pislar List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:11:50 -0000 hi, may i suggest to take a look these apps: email client: sylpheed (http://sylpheed.good-day.net/) imageviewer: xzgv ( http://rus.members.beeb.net/xzgv.html) file manager: emelFM ( http://emelfm.sourceforge.net/) regards, tanja On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:39:29 +0100, Herbert Feutl wr= ote: > i am also searching for lightweight software > but its hard to find. > i'm running freebsd 4.10 on a toschiba libretto 100CT >=20 > what i need at this time is a graphicle filemanager, imageviewer and a ma= il client. >=20 > also i am searching for a nice icq glient f=FCr my fluxbox which can hand= le with a display size of 800x480. >=20 > thanx >=20 > herbert >=20 > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 10:20:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4421616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:20:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B4F143D1F for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:20:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jan 2005 10:20:33 -0000 Received: from jennersdorf2-191-149.wco.wellcom.at (EHLO [192.168.0.66]) (195.230.191.149) by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 23 Jan 2005 11:20:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:20:37 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tanja pislar References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:20:35 -0000 what do you say to this filemanager http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/ thanks for the links - i will test it sylpheed is installed anyway :-D now i need a good icq client. i tried licq but the option window of this software is not resizeable. so i am not able to see the whole window with my resolution vo 800x480 thx herbert tanja pislar wrote: > hi, > may i suggest to take a look these apps: > email client: sylpheed (http://sylpheed.good-day.net/) > imageviewer: xzgv ( http://rus.members.beeb.net/xzgv.html) > file manager: emelFM ( http://emelfm.sourceforge.net/) > > regards, > tanja > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:39:29 +0100, Herbert Feutl wrote: > >>i am also searching for lightweight software >>but its hard to find. >>i'm running freebsd 4.10 on a toschiba libretto 100CT >> >>what i need at this time is a graphicle filemanager, imageviewer and a mail client. >> >>also i am searching for a nice icq glient für my fluxbox which can handle with a display size of 800x480. >> >>thanx >> >>herbert >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- *--------------------------- + http://www.redhotchilli.org + http://www.wasted-darlings.com + http://webcam.istsehr.org + http://www.kirnbo.net ---------------------------* In life there are going to be some things thats going to make it hard to smile. But what ever you do, through all the rain and the pain, you got to keep your sense of humor, you got to smile for me now. REMEMBER THAT From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 10:33:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50F116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:33:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6829643D39 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:33:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 8012 invoked by uid 55300); 23 Jan 2005 10:33:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:33:03 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Cody Holland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Automake X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:33:04 -0000 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Cody Holland wrote: > This may sound kinda dumb, but I'm pretty new to the FreeBSD > environment. I'm trying to add an new package and am getting: > > This port is deprecated; you may wish to reconsider installing it: > Please use devel/automake19 instead. > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/automake15. > *** Error code 1 > > So I went and installed the port for automake19....but when i go to > add the package it still tries to use automake15. Can anyone tell me > what i'm doing wrong? Probably not anything. I was going to add some thoughts until Greg stepped in. He's probably right. If and when you post to freebsd-questions, useful information would include, _in this case_: - Reiteration that it is a 'package' that you are trying to install, and not a 'port'. I suspect it's the latter since I can see little reason why almost any of the package would need any of the auto-tools as dependancies. I've been wrong before, however, and I do very little with packages. - The port/package you are having trouble with. - The version of the OS, and maybe other info if it wasn't a fresh install. - Whether your ports tree has ever been updated via 'cvsup' or some other mechanism, and if so, when. This strikes me as a bit of an unusual problem, frankly, for reasons I won't go into here. Knowing the above info may be of use to others who might be aware of such an issue at a certain point in the history of the ports tree. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 17:28:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D0716A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:28:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.netinfo.bg (ns.netinfo.bg [194.153.145.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A6B43D39 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from livorov@abv.bg) Received: from webmail.gyuvetch.bg (app6.ni.bg [192.168.151.23]) by ns.netinfo.bg (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E2812D87 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:31:05 +0200 (EET) Received: (qmail 13604 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2005 17:28:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO app6.ni.bg) (127.0.0.1) by webmail.gyuvetch.bg with SMTP; 23 Jan 2005 17:28:48 -0000 Message-ID: <1311810734.1106501328878.JavaMail.nobody@app6.ni.bg> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:28:48 +0200 (EET) From: =?windows-1251?B?xOjs6PL68CDL6OLu8O7i?= To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AbvMail 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 195.138.157.112 Subject: need a help X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:28:51 -0000 Hi, I'm new in FreeBSD and I have a problem with configuring it. I've got two machines: W2000 Pro and this FreeBSD. Below is a short description of my nome net: Win 2000 FreeBSD LAN card1 LAN card2 LAN card1 LAN card2 Ext. LAN<->10.1.2.7--192.168.0.2<-->192.168.0.1--192.168.166.187<->I-net My idea is to use FreeeBSD as Internet server(proxy, firewall, etc.) but at the moment can't do this. There is a ping from Win2000 to LAN1 on FreeBSD(192.168.0.1) but not to LAN2(192.168.166.187). I think this is very important to have a such ping. So, my questions is: 1. What I need to do to have ping from my Win2000 to LAN2(192.168.166.187)? 2.What I need to do after this to have ping(connection) from my W2000 to addresses in Internet? Thank you in advance for your help! Best regards, Dimitar ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://promo.abv.bg/new_sms.html - Àêòèâèðàéòå SMS èçâåñòÿâàíå çà ïîëó÷åíî ïèñìî! From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 17:29:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B8216A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:29:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web80808.mail.yahoo.com (web80808.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.170.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 823DC43D2F for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:29:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmc3list-bsd@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20050123172945.15672.qmail@web80808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.65.4.124] by web80808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:29:45 PST Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:29:45 -0800 (PST) From: To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: freebsd-users list - semi regular post X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cmc3list-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:29:45 -0000 FreeBSD Users is a small (too small, so far :-)) informal mailing list for people who use FreeBSD. The list is not meant to compete with the formal FreeBSD lists, but to be a place for people who like to use FreeBSD to hang out, ask questions, talk about what interests them with FreeBSD. Think of it as the users group your town doesn't have :-). To join: http://www.whee.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users ===== Christopher Mark Conn http://storm.cadcam.iupui.edu/~cmcgoat Austin, Texas, USA From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 19:32:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0803416A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:32:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from weller-fahy.com (pD9FFEAE2.dip.t-dialin.net [217.255.234.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D98243D31 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:32:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave-lists-freebsd-newbies@weller-fahy.com) Received: (qmail 84157 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Jan 2005 19:32:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:32:02 +0101 From: "David J. Weller-Fahy" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050123193140.GA83960@weller-fahy.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> X-URL-Me: http://www.weller-fahy.com X-Accept-Language: en X-Location: Germany, Gangelt, Hof Grootfeld User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:32:10 -0000 * Herbert Feutl [2005-01-23 11:20 +0100]: > now i need a good icq client. > i tried licq but the option window of this software is not resizeable. > so i am not able to see the whole window with my resolution vo 800x480 If you're not averse to console apps, then you could try centericq (/usr/ports/net/centericq). I've used it before, and it does the job. Regards, -- dave [ please don't CC me ] From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 01:37:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D5016A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:37:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5DF43D2D for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:37:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmello@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so349026rne for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:37:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=j3AOQlWdFtFKGLS9ENdAdgonjr2uMoxzVzeLVaImNBVBlCFVTG1SHV+qveh0WkF13MRwgcj+6KM0u32qXwR3xWh7MUorNM50my70joQyWQWp293TdneMudcgRhpjv0tqRwlXX9chSCbAwRri2d+cDHeuwI1UTHHOTxefFKWQIxU= Received: by 10.38.79.24 with SMTP id c24mr264552rnb; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.15.66 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:37:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:37:54 -0300 From: Cesar Mello To: Herbert Feutl In-Reply-To: <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> cc: tanja pislar cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cesar Mello List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:37:56 -0000 I use fluxbox and micq. I don't do much web browsing on this machine, because I vnc to a desktop quite often. But when I have to, I use dillo. Unfortunatelly xorg, Firefox and OpenOffice are very bad to memory. :-) My view is that fat applications are bad. You can run Microsoft Windows 95/98/NT, Internet Explorer 6 and Microsoft Office in the same machine with 32 MB of RAM and it's quite acceptable. It's simply not possible to even run xorg with Firefox or OpenOffice on this hardware. I believe there is still chance for ligheweight applications, and as a software developer I'll ever try to make lightweight apps. Take a look at third-world countries and you'll see this old hardware simply can't go to trash. FreeBSD is an excellent OS, I just dream with a GUI that's not as heavy as currently xorg is. Best regards, Cesar On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:20:37 +0100, Herbert Feutl wr= ote: > what do you say to this filemanager > http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/ >=20 > thanks for the links - i will test it > sylpheed is installed anyway :-D >=20 > now i need a good icq client. > i tried licq but the option window of this software is not resizeable. > so i am not able to see the whole window with my resolution vo 800x480 >=20 > thx >=20 > herbert >=20 >=20 > tanja pislar wrote: > > hi, > > may i suggest to take a look these apps: > > email client: sylpheed (http://sylpheed.good-day.net/) > > imageviewer: xzgv ( http://rus.members.beeb.net/xzgv.html) > > file manager: emelFM ( http://emelfm.sourceforge.net/) > > > > regards, > > tanja > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:39:29 +0100, Herbert Feutl wrote: > > > >>i am also searching for lightweight software > >>but its hard to find. > >>i'm running freebsd 4.10 on a toschiba libretto 100CT > >> > >>what i need at this time is a graphicle filemanager, imageviewer and a = mail client. > >> > >>also i am searching for a nice icq glient f=FCr my fluxbox which can ha= ndle with a display size of 800x480. > >> > >>thanx > >> > >>herbert > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > > > >=20 > -- > *--------------------------- > + http://www.redhotchilli.org > + http://www.wasted-darlings.com > + http://webcam.istsehr.org > + http://www.kirnbo.net > ---------------------------* >=20 > In life there are going to be some things > thats going to make it hard to smile. >=20 > But what ever you do, > through all the rain and the pain, > you got to keep your sense of humor, > you got to smile for me now. >=20 > REMEMBER THAT >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 02:23:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B3616A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:23:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C01943D31 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 78068 invoked by uid 55300); 24 Jan 2005 02:23:29 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:23:25 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Herbert Feutl In-Reply-To: <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> Message-ID: References: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:23:32 -0000 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Herbert Feutl wrote: > what do you say to this filemanager > http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/ Hmmm...another 'fox' project. On an aside, I recently became familiar with this project because a certain GUI for my Ten-Tec shortwave radio was written under it. It seems to use the 'xclass' toolkit which was removed from the ports tree for lack of love I guess. I had to build it from scratch. Maybe this is a different 'fox' project, or maybe they switched toolkits because I didn't see any reference to 'xclass' on their site. I thought the Fox project was dead becaue the link on the xclass site seemed dead. I've always used 'filerunner'. Again, it's one of those things that I started out with and had no reason to change. I choose it initially because of it's FTP ability which is no longer very important to me. It's not at all a Windows Explorer look/work-alike, and after a short time I found it quite a lot more usable and powerful than Explorer. http://www.cd.chalmers.se/~hch/filerunner.html It's a tcl/tk thingy. Is it 'lightweight'? I dunno. Here's from 'top': 70161 thuppi 96 0 5268K 4080K select 0:01 0.05% 0.05% wish8.2 > thanks for the links - i will test it > sylpheed is installed anyway :-D I use 'sylpheed-claws' for usenet. (Always go back to 'pine' for mail, and do it remotely anyway.) I never could get happy with a terminal-mode newsreader for some reason. Nothing threaded to my satisfaction. Sylpheed was the only graphical client I found which I could make allow me to use an external editor (vim.) Pretty good software also, but the older version I was using was a wee bit unstable. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 03:07:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A263716A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:07:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DACC343D45 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:07:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 1291 invoked by uid 55300); 24 Jan 2005 03:07:46 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:07:46 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Cesar Mello In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:07:47 -0000 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Cesar Mello wrote: > I use fluxbox and micq. I don't do much web browsing on this machine, > because I vnc to a desktop quite often. But when I have to, I use > dillo. Unfortunatelly xorg, Firefox and OpenOffice are very bad to > memory. :-) > > My view is that fat applications are bad. You can run Microsoft > Windows 95/98/NT, Internet Explorer 6 and Microsoft Office in the same > machine with 32 MB of RAM and it's quite acceptable. It's simply not > possible to even run xorg with Firefox or OpenOffice on this hardware. When I first played wit FreeBSD it was 2.2.6 on an old 486-40/16 (or maybe it was 32MB) which was being thrown out by a relative. I was blown away by how well it worked. I switched my main machine over to FreeBSD a month afterwords and have never looked back. It has been a disappointment to me to come to the realization that it's now a hardship to come up with a workable open-source solution for a P200/32MB system. > I believe there is still chance for ligheweight applications, and as a > software developer I'll ever try to make lightweight apps. Take a look > at third-world countries and you'll see this old hardware simply can't > go to trash. Even here in the so-called 'land of milk and honey' (one of the quaint names we in the US use to describe our nation) there are plenty of folks who just want to e-mail their grandkids now and then and really can't afford to upgrade their hardware and software every three years. > FreeBSD is an excellent OS, I just dream with a GUI that's not as > heavy as currently xorg is. Xorg seems to be the real sticking point. FreeBSD's virtual memory subsystem has long been very good at adjusting to limited resources (dunno if Linux has caught up in this respect yet.) Matt Dillon wrote a nice technical description of how the VM subsystem takes a certain number of page hits in order to gage usage and adjust. It was quite noticeable in terms of responsiveness back in the old days. 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I've both XP and FreeBSD latest release, and I see "F1: DOS CR F2: FreeBSD CR Default: F1". I've gone to /boot directory and searched with "strings" command in all files, and I've seen these strings in binary files. Does anyone know how could I edit it in order to modify these entries?. Many thanks Jose __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 13:21:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2978716A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:21:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enigmedia.com (mail.enigmedia.com [207.158.46.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEF843D2F for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:21:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aklist_061666@enigmedia.com) Received: from ANDREW9KNFJ0JD (68.161.247.47) by enigmedia.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2.6) for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:21:11 -0500 Message-ID: <00dc01c50217$a1bf0140$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> From: "aklist_061666" To: References: <20050121131608.4a98e572@agnes.myhome.net> <026901c5009c$715f3410$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> <20050122204508.GA1163@procyon.nekulturny.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:21:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: keeping 5.1 install up to date? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:21:11 -0000 > Assuming you have an internet connection, the simplest way to install > CVSUp is (line 2 may wrap): > > 1. su > 2. pkg_add > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/net/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz OK, great...that's what I wanted to know...I was just starting from the cvsup page and the original method (compiling it from source) was all they proposed. > I know you say you're running 5.1. The 5.1 packages are no longer > maintained, at least on the master site. The above works for me, > though I'm using 5.2.1-RELEASE on this machine, and I think it will > work for you, too. You don't need to install Modula-3 to install or > run CVSUp, only to build it. Does it make more sense, then, to upgrade to 5.2.1 first? All this machine is doing is running BIND 9.2.3. > If you want to build from source but don't want to use the ports tree, > you are not a newbie :) yeah, right! Not this week! Thanks Danny From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 15:19:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1044716A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:19:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52607.mail.yahoo.com (web52607.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1503743D1D for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:19:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jackredman45@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 978 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2005 15:19:20 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Ahd6xSM+/syYzo8XXIaIX3rkDVeZXhRzVPpqgY/v0QbxazBXitUe6tjFB3ZTiUl2VtYLW+6aLNP+589Im9C0ws/2gAJ84Z3GKJrWRnZfhhjNA7p9j68Xyy1ZCQ5Uxk39A3pEc8bj/xh2S62HXTi6/dSC7/z+UsVCjqnDze6FW3Y= ; Message-ID: <20050124151920.976.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.28.54.52] by web52607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:19:20 PST Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:19:20 -0800 (PST) From: Redman Jack To: Tom Huppi , Cesar Mello In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:19:24 -0000 --- Tom Huppi wrote: > > Xorg seems to be the real sticking point. FreeBSD's > virtual > memory subsystem has long been very good at > adjusting to limited > resources (dunno if Linux has caught up in this > respect yet.) > Matt Dillon wrote a nice technical description of > how the VM > subsystem takes a certain number of page hits in > order to gage > usage and adjust. It was quite noticeable in terms > of > responsiveness back in the old days. > > Thanks, > > - Tom If you're looking for lightweight software you might want to check out the RULE Linux web site. http://www.rule-project.org/ RULE stands for Run Up2date Linux Everywhere. Rule is intended for building systems on older eqipement. The main thing that they have is a Xorg replacement called kdrive that you should check out. Another place to look is VectorLinux. http://www.vectorlinux.com/ It's another lightweight Linux designed for older hardware. I'm not suggesting that you change to Linux but these sites may give you ideas or leads to other lightweight software. Hope that this is helpful. Jack __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 19:17:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DAD16A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:17:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFEF43D1F for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:17:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hoe-waa@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-66-8-190-99.hawaii.rr.com [66.8.190.99])j0OJHVuY022376; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:17:32 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Marella To: Jose Antonio In-Reply-To: <20050124091827.42083.qmail@web51003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050124091827.42083.qmail@web51003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:20:34 -1000 Message-Id: <1106594434.6969.2.camel@p4> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to edit Boot loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:17:35 -0000 On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 01:18 -0800, Jose Antonio wrote: > Hi everybody, > can anyone please give me some advice on how to edit > the boot message I see when I boot my PC. I've both XP > and FreeBSD latest release, and I see "F1: DOS CR F2: > FreeBSD CR Default: F1". I've gone to /boot directory > and searched with "strings" command in all files, and > I've seen these strings in binary files. Does anyone > know how could I edit it in order to modify these > entries?. Many thanks > > Jose Jose This has come up many times on the mail lists. The short answer is "you can't" The best answer is install GAG http://gag.sourceforge.net/ It is easy to use and you can run it from a floppy or load it into the MBR. Best of luck Robert From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:51:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4093E16A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:51:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C922543D1F for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:51:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 73526 invoked by uid 55300); 24 Jan 2005 21:51:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:51:06 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Redman Jack In-Reply-To: <20050124151920.976.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20050124151920.976.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:51:07 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Redman Jack wrote: > If you're looking for lightweight software you > might want to check out the RULE Linux web site. > > http://www.rule-project.org/ > > RULE stands for Run Up2date Linux Everywhere. > Rule is intended for building systems on > older eqipement. > The main thing that they have is a Xorg replacement > called kdrive that you should check out. Ah! I had not grasped that 'kdrive' was on Xorg/XFree86 replacement. Too bad it's in the ports collection. Do you have any experiance with it? My concern would be how it interoperates with various existing x11-toolkits (but I only vaugly understand the technology and potential sticking points.) > Another place to look is VectorLinux. > > http://www.vectorlinux.com/ > > It's another lightweight Linux designed for > older hardware. > > I'm not suggesting that you change to Linux > but these sites may give you ideas or > leads to other lightweight software. > > Hope that this is helpful. It is. My initial thought was to use Linux since there are so many purpose oriented distributions. I also ran across 'wclp', but the other two you mentioned seem to be constantly comming up on my searches too. I actually learned of 'dillo' from one of these distribution's web pages. Later I started to shift to thinking maybe I should do this project (upgrading my friend's old machine) with FreeBSD. I think the OS itself is probably as suitable as most Linux kernels, and I know FreeBSD infinitly better. I see my choices here as: - Re-install his Win95 and try to tell him how to aviod viruses. - Try to pick a good and well supported Linux distro and learn it well enough to make it work for his limited needs. - Install modern FreeBSD and try to choose lightweight apps. His current Win95 is very slow so even FreeBSD thrashing like mad might be an improvement. - Grab one of my many ancient FreeBSD install disks, throw a few things on the machine, and forget about my normal tendancy to want to keep things up to date. Dunno what to do yet, but I've got a few weeks to figure it out. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 22:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3467D16A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:12:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E72543D1D for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:12:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Jan 2005 22:12:21 -0000 Received: from Eis1.oejab.at (EHLO [192.168.10.54]) (193.170.120.242) by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 24 Jan 2005 23:12:21 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F572CF.9030702@gmx.at> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:12:31 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: whats the right way for deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:12:23 -0000 hello! 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REMEMBER THAT From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 23:00:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8484216A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B99843D48 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:00:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.55.105] ([192.168.55.105]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:00:41 -0800 Message-ID: <41F57E19.7060109@finnovative.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:00:41 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2005 23:00:41.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[872684B0:01C50268] Subject: Problematic Rebooting of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:00:42 -0000 Hi, Is there anyway to get a FreeBSD system to reboot? I use "shutdown -r now", but then I have to later manually flick the reset switch. It does not automatically restart. This gets problematic when I make changes to rc.conf, and I wanted to see the effects after reboot. - joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 04:34:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A2716A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:34:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F3343D49 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050125043425i92009vsage>; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:34:25 +0000 Message-ID: <41F5CC50.90406@nbritton.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:34:24 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Huppi References: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Cesar Mello cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:34:26 -0000 Tom Huppi wrote: > >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Cesar Mello wrote: > > > >>FreeBSD is an excellent OS, I just dream with a GUI that's not as >>heavy as currently xorg is. >> >> > >Xorg seems to be the real sticking point. FreeBSD's virtual >memory subsystem has long been very good at adjusting to limited >resources (dunno if Linux has caught up in this respect yet.) >Matt Dillon wrote a nice technical description of how the VM >subsystem takes a certain number of page hits in order to gage >usage and adjust. It was quite noticeable in terms of >responsiveness back in the old days. > > > There is nothing wrong with Xorg and it is lightwight, the problem is what you run on it: Mem: 1460K Active, 3588K Inact, 13M Wired, 7792K Buf, 471M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 512 root 8 0 1800K 1240K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 513 root 96 0 2384K 1572K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top ----------------------------------------- Mem: 13M Active, 12M Inact, 19M Wired, 13M Buf, 446M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 529 root 96 0 82024K 20372K select 0:01 0.58% 0.49% Xorg 528 root 8 0 2180K 1240K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xinit 514 root 8 0 1796K 1272K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 512 root 8 0 1804K 1244K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 532 root 96 0 2384K 1572K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top ----------------------------------------- Mem: 94M Active, 63M Inact, 58M Wired, 30M Cache, 60M Buf, 244M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 649 nbritton 96 0 96904K 35164K select 0:01 1.29% 1.07% Xorg 655 nbritton 96 0 9960K 8752K select 0:01 1.06% 0.88% gconfd-2 713 nbritton 96 0 21320K 17564K select 0:01 0.99% 0.78% gnome-panel 739 nbritton 96 0 19552K 14444K select 0:00 0.42% 0.29% clock-applet 720 nbritton 96 0 18472K 13500K select 0:00 0.31% 0.24% mixer_applet2 730 nbritton 106 0 17008K 12544K select 0:00 0.13% 0.10% gnome-netstatus-app 666 nbritton 96 0 20036K 14912K select 0:01 0.06% 0.05% gnome-settings-daem 653 nbritton 96 0 19344K 14432K select 0:01 0.06% 0.05% gnome-session 715 nbritton 20 0 29496K 24840K kserel 0:01 0.00% 0.00% nautilus 564 root 96 0 8364K 7128K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 728 nbritton 96 0 17316K 13184K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% wnck-applet 734 nbritton 96 0 16604K 12192K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% multiload-applet-2 662 nbritton 96 0 6008K 4260K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 690 nbritton 96 0 11336K 8184K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% metacity 679 nbritton 96 0 3448K 2712K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xscreensaver 737 nbritton -8 0 2920K 1128K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% libgtop_server2 722 nbritton 20 0 9384K 6520K kserel 0:00 0.00% 0.00% gnome-vfs-daemon 660 nbritton 96 0 3484K 2908K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% esd ----------------------------------------- Mem: 115M Active, 79M Inact, 60M Wired, 30M Cache, 60M Buf, 205M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 649 nbritton 96 0 99028K 38268K select 0:02 0.90% 0.88% Xorg 690 nbritton 96 0 13964K 10644K select 0:00 0.15% 0.15% metacity 728 nbritton 96 0 19244K 15188K select 0:01 0.05% 0.05% wnck-applet 908 nbritton 20 0 40700K 34812K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% firefox-bin 715 nbritton 20 0 29496K 24840K kserel 0:01 0.00% 0.00% nautilus 655 nbritton 96 0 9960K 8752K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 713 nbritton 96 0 21352K 17584K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-panel 564 root 96 0 8364K 7128K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 730 nbritton 99 0 17008K 12632K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-netstatus-app 666 nbritton 96 0 20036K 14912K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-settings-daem 653 nbritton 96 0 19344K 14436K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-session 739 nbritton 96 0 19552K 14444K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% clock-applet 720 nbritton 96 0 18472K 13500K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% mixer_applet2 737 nbritton -8 0 2920K 1128K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% libgtop_server2 734 nbritton 96 0 16604K 12272K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% multiload-applet-2 662 nbritton 96 0 6008K 4260K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 679 nbritton 96 0 3448K 2712K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xscreensaver 660 nbritton 96 0 3484K 2908K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% esd ----------------------------------------- Mem: 133M Active, 97M Inact, 63M Wired, 29M Cache, 60M Buf, 167M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 649 nbritton 96 0 98M 42512K select 0:03 2.11% 2.10% Xorg 1047 nbritton 20 0 58480K 39668K kserel 0:03 0.00% 0.00% thunderbird-bin 908 nbritton 20 0 40700K 34816K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% firefox-bin 715 nbritton 20 0 29496K 24840K kserel 0:01 0.00% 0.00% nautilus 655 nbritton 96 0 9960K 8752K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 713 nbritton 96 0 21352K 17596K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-panel 564 root 96 0 8364K 7128K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 730 nbritton 107 0 17008K 12632K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-netstatus-app 728 nbritton 96 0 19244K 15188K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% wnck-applet 666 nbritton 96 0 20036K 14912K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-settings-daem 653 nbritton 96 0 19344K 14436K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-session 739 nbritton 96 0 19552K 14444K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% clock-applet 720 nbritton 96 0 18472K 13500K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% mixer_applet2 690 nbritton 96 0 13964K 10580K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% metacity 737 nbritton -8 0 2920K 1128K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% libgtop_server2 734 nbritton 96 0 16604K 12272K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% multiload-applet-2 662 nbritton 96 0 6008K 4260K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 679 nbritton 96 0 3448K 2712K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xscreensaver From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 05:43:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C887E16A4DA for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:43:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE9A43D5C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:43:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050125054248i92009uvd0e>; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:43:03 +0000 Message-ID: <41F5DC57.1050103@nbritton.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:42:47 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <20041224085217.42737.qmail@web61205.mail.yahoo.com> <41CC0203.6020609@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CC0203.6020609@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Mervin McDougall cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/71142; VESA 1024x768 @ the console X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:43:05 -0000 I got tired of having to patch by hand all the systems I wanted this patch on and all the systems I patched but then updated with cvsup so I made a simple batch script to do it for me, this script will do steps 1...9 (see below). all you have to do is paste it into a file and then run it as root (i.e. "sh vesa-patch-script"): cd /tmp rm current-vesa_patch.tar.gz fetch http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/current-vesa_patch.tar.gz rm -r current-vesa_patch tar -zxvf current-vesa_patch.tar.gz cd /usr/src/sys/dev/syscons patch Disclaimer!!!: please note that this patch was never meant for newbies > and that if you decide to use it you are basically on your own if you > have any problems with it. This patch is very much still in alpha > status, but it does work and if It breaks your system you can always > back it out. > >> 1. do I copy the patch exactly as is from the webpage? >> >> > no, forget the patches from the webpage it's all messed up and you > have to run it though scripts and edit it and stuff etc etc.... > ----------------------------- > Step 0: su to root. > Step 1: cd into /tmp > Step 2: fetch the patch: "fetch > http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/current-vesa_patch.tar.gz" > > Alternate Source (these patches are from Deng XueFeng BTW): > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2004-08/att-2992/current-vesa_patch.tar.gz > > > Step 3: Extract the files from the archive: "tar -zxvf curr*gz" > Step 4: cd into /usr/src/sys/dev/syscons > Step 5: patch the files: "patch > cleanly, no error messages!) > Step 6: cd into /usr/src/usr.sbin/vidcontrol (usr.sbin is not a typo) > Step 7: Copy the file current-vidcontrol.1 here: "cp > /tmp/current-vesa_patch/current-vidcontrol.1 ./vidcontrol.1" > Step 8: Copy the file current-vidcontrol.c here: "cp > /tmp/current-vesa_patch/current-vidcontrol.c ./vidcontrol.c" > Step 9: while your in there rebuild vidcontrol: "make && make install > && make clean" > Step 10: cd into /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > (if you have never done this before then your kernel will be > "GENERIC", if you have then you don't need me to explain what to do) > Step 11: Add the kernel option for VESA support to your kernel: echo > "options VESA" >> GENERIC > Step 12: Add the kernel option for SC_PIXEL_MODE to your kernel: echo > "options SC_PIXEL_MODE" >> GENERIC > Step 13: config your kernel: config GENERIC > Step 14: cd into ../compile/GENERIC > Step 15: rebuild your kernel: "make depend && make && make install" > Step 16: reboot > (After FreeBSD reboots and loads you will see this message several > times (ignore it) "vidcontrol: showing the mouse: Invalid argument") > Step 17: login as root > Step 18: Now change the video mode "vidcontrol MODE_279" > (you should now have a console at 1024x768, if you don't you did > something wrong.) > Step 19: If everthing seems ok then add it to the /etc/rc.conf file: > allscreens_flags="MODE_279" > Step 20: reboot or do a "shutdown now" > Step 21: login as a normal user, you're done, have fun :-), report any > bugs your having to I think ether freebsd-current or freebsd-hackers > mailing lists. > > you can also use "vidcontrol -i mode | grep G" to see a complete list > of supported modes (this is a list of modes supported by your video > card, not your monitor!) and if you want you can play with these other > modes "vidcontrol MODE_modenumber" > > Also note that if you try to update your sources with cvsup it will > overwrite the changes you made to the files so you will have to redo > steps 0 though 8 again (this is how you can back out the changes if > you have problems with it). > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 08:07:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69D216A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:07:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FDF43D2D for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:07:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.120] ([192.168.55.1]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:07:44 -0800 Message-ID: <41F5FE4F.5060104@finnovative.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:07:43 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2005 08:07:44.0323 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2F1D130:01C502B4] Subject: Re: Conncetion sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:07:45 -0000 meka@softhome.net wrote: > What are the basic steps to do this? I have working LAN (everyone can > ping and ssh to anyone) and this machine can go to internet. I would > like to make it a gateway but no succes. This machine has fxp0 as LAN > interface. Thanx. :o) Hi. Do you have two network cards or one? I'm assuming one is connected to the Internet, and the other is connected to the regular LAN network. You can route them using the route add command, and once you get it working you can put these into the rc.conf to make the change permanent. The handbook has a lot of details on this. Also, making BSD a gateway router is not very safe unless you use a firewall. Currently I am using FreeBSD at home, and I am attempting to make it a router. However, I don't want to use it as a gateway/router until I master using it as a firewall as well. regards, Joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 08:12:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C3C16A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:12:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0816443D5C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.120] ([192.168.55.1]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:12:46 -0800 Message-ID: <41F5FF7E.30805@finnovative.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:12:46 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41F5FE4F.5060104@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41F5FE4F.5060104@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2005 08:12:46.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7379120:01C502B5] Subject: Re: Conncetion sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:12:47 -0000 ps - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-routing.html From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 08:30:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EE716A503 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:30:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0D743D31 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:30:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from isfugl@kvaek.dk) Received: from fort.kvaek.dk (0x50c71e39.adsl-fixed.tele.dk [80.199.30.57]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693795EE03E; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:30:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.76.200] (winbox [192.168.76.200]) by fort.kvaek.dk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0P8UpFM001718; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:30:56 GMT (envelope-from isfugl@kvaek.dk) Message-ID: <41F60494.7030603@kvaek.dk> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:34:28 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Steffen_Fr=F8kj=E6r?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: da, en, en-us, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaquin Menchaca References: <41F57E19.7060109@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41F57E19.7060109@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problematic Rebooting of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:30:58 -0000 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi, > > Is there anyway to get a FreeBSD system to reboot? > I use "shutdown -r now", but then I have to later manually flick the > reset switch. It does not automatically restart. -- snip -- "shutdown -p now" gets the system to power down "reboot" get the system to reboot -- Steffen From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 08:33:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA70916A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:33:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC4FC43D1D for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2005 08:33:15 -0000 Received: from gw.fh-burgenland.at (EHLO [192.168.0.3]) (193.170.232.130) by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2005 09:33:15 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F60456.2020301@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:33:26 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: wlan conig tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:33:16 -0000 hello! i am using a hacked orinoco silver in my libretto 100CT the pcmcia card will detected without problems. i want to take my little friend with me at school and at home. also other users want to use this subnotebook. so is it possible to conigure wlan connections via a graphicle user interface? also new wlan AP should be able to add via this software. it should be easier to use then ifconfig. windows users should also be able to handle this tool. thanks herbert -- *--------------------------- + http://www.redhotchilli.org + http://www.wasted-darlings.com + http://webcam.istsehr.org + http://www.kirnbo.net ---------------------------* In life there are going to be some things thats going to make it hard to smile. 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REMEMBER THAT From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 09:16:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A21916A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:16:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75AED43D45 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:16:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-20.tower-9.messagelabs.com!1106644601!16860869!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.5; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [194.129.126.228] Received: (qmail 21494 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2005 09:16:45 -0000 Received: from mailhost.capita.co.uk (HELO capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk) (194.129.126.228) by server-20.tower-9.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2005 09:16:45 -0000 Received: from capitawemnt07.central.ad.capita.co.uk (unverified) by capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:16:40 +0000 Received: by capitawemnt07.central.ad.capita.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:13:48 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Walker, Michael" To: "FreeBSD-Newbies (E-mail)" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:16:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: wlan conig tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:16:50 -0000 > hello! > > i am using a hacked orinoco silver in my libretto 100CT > the pcmcia card will detected without problems. > > i want to take my little friend with me at school and at home. > also other users want to use this subnotebook. > > so is it possible to conigure wlan connections via a graphicle user > interface? also new wlan AP should be able to add via this software. > > it should be easier to use then ifconfig. > windows users should also be able to handle this tool. > > thanks > > herbert I don't know of any graphical interfaces to ifconfig off the top of my head. But writing one would be a simple task using C, GTK and a few system() calls. The problem lies in that users whom don't necessarily know what they are doing (or I am assuming they don't as they can't use ifconfig) would need root access to use the program. I wouldn't recommend this, or even having the program run with the suid bit set. If you don't care about this, I would be happy to write the program for you, I'm looking for a project at the moment, and this could fit the bill of what I need. HTH Mick Walker ********************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error or think you may have done so, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. 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The Capita Group and its subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. *********************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 09:19:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613BB16A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:19:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5DC743D46 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:19:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 63461 invoked by uid 55300); 25 Jan 2005 09:19:42 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:19:42 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: <41F5CC50.90406@nbritton.org> Message-ID: References: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> <41F5CC50.90406@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Cesar Mello cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:19:43 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Tom Huppi wrote: > > > > >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Cesar Mello wrote: > > > >>FreeBSD is an excellent OS, I just dream with a GUI that's not as > >>heavy as currently xorg is. > > > >Xorg seems to be the real sticking point. FreeBSD's virtual > >memory subsystem has long been very good at adjusting to limited > >resources (dunno if Linux has caught up in this respect yet.) > >Matt Dillon wrote a nice technical description of how the VM > >subsystem takes a certain number of page hits in order to gage > >usage and adjust. It was quite noticeable in terms of > >responsiveness back in the old days. > > There is nothing wrong with Xorg and it is lightwight, the problem is > what you run on it: I guess there are different interpretation of 'lightweight' Your machine is stronger in memory terms than the one I'm using at the moment, and it seems that your Xorg is using more mem (although we have about the same amount resident.) Is your build of Xorg a standard ports build or package or something at all special? (I'm wondering if Xorg itself adjusts at load time based on resource availability.) Oh...how much mem do you have on your graphics adapter? I wish I would have taken better note of the numbers on some of my older installations...I've recently upgraded all my machines and can't easily compare. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 09:41:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2327B16A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:41:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45B5743D53 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:41:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2005 09:41:56 -0000 Received: from Eis1.oejab.at (EHLO [10.10.1.100]) (193.170.120.242) by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2005 10:41:56 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F6146E.8010609@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:42:06 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Walker, Michael" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: wlan conig tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:41:58 -0000 the problem about root rights is a problem i also thought about. i am not so good in using freebsd but i will get better. the problem of die ifconfig and the long syntac can be handled by aliases. but as example in our school there ar more then 5 APs and at home I also have 2. but i dont noch in school which of the APs is reachable. so i had to start first a tool which shows me the reachable APs. then i had to call the alias. alos iam not able to see without adding new commands which wlan aps i have also addes and configured. i had to look for my aliases. so i have now 3 xterm windows opened (1: typing alias 2: looking for aps 3: looking in my alias list) then what i dont want is, wenn a friend of mine starting my libretto, or using it, that he/she is able to see the wepkeys in "cleartext" as easy as it is in my alias file. and the problem about the rights to configere: is it possible to finde a way by adding sudo rights oder starting a daemon of your programm which have the rights to use ifconfig an the GUI only gifs instructions to this daemon? this are only some stupid ideas. i would be happy if there is a programm or will be written. also if it will find its way into the port tree. and i can help with the german translation if it is necassary. thanks herbert (from austria) Walker, Michael wrote: >>hello! >> >>i am using a hacked orinoco silver in my libretto 100CT >>the pcmcia card will detected without problems. >> >>i want to take my little friend with me at school and at home. >>also other users want to use this subnotebook. >> >>so is it possible to conigure wlan connections via a graphicle user >>interface? also new wlan AP should be able to add via this software. >> >>it should be easier to use then ifconfig. >>windows users should also be able to handle this tool. >> >>thanks >> >>herbert > > > I don't know of any graphical interfaces to ifconfig off the top of my head. > But writing one would be a simple task using C, GTK and a few system() > calls. The problem lies in that users whom don't necessarily know what they > are doing (or I am assuming they don't as they can't use ifconfig) would > need root access to use the program. I wouldn't recommend this, or even > having the program run with the suid bit set. > If you don't care about this, I would be happy to write the program for you, > I'm looking for a project at the moment, and this could fit the bill of what > I need. > HTH > Mick Walker > > > ********************************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error or think you may have done so, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. Please notify the sender immediately and delete the original e-mail from your system. > > Computer viruses can be transmitted by e-mail. Recipients should check this e-mail for the presence of viruses. The Capita Group and its subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. > *********************************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- *--------------------------- + http://www.redhotchilli.org + http://www.wasted-darlings.com + http://webcam.istsehr.org + http://www.kirnbo.net ---------------------------* In life there are going to be some things thats going to make it hard to smile. But what ever you do, through all the rain and the pain, you got to keep your sense of humor, you got to smile for me now. REMEMBER THAT From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 09:49:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F345916A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EAC943D2F for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2005 09:49:24 -0000 Received: from Eis1.oejab.at (EHLO [10.10.1.100]) (193.170.120.242) by mail.gmx.net (mp009) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2005 10:49:24 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F6162F.1050006@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:49:35 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41F6146E.8010609@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <41F6146E.8010609@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: wlan conig tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:49:27 -0000 http://www.bitbuilder.com/wifi_radar/ here i found a nice tool for linux - i dont tested it. i have less time the next 2 days - perhpas someone else can try it - i even dont know if its possible to run linux applications so easily. herbert Herbert Feutl wrote: > the problem about root rights is a problem i also thought about. > i am not so good in using freebsd but i will get better. > > the problem of die ifconfig and the long syntac can be handled by aliases. > but as example in our school there ar more then 5 APs and at home I also > have 2. > but i dont noch in school which of the APs is reachable. > so i had to start first a tool which shows me the reachable APs. > then i had to call the alias. > > alos iam not able to see without adding new commands which wlan aps i > have also addes and configured. > i had to look for my aliases. > > so i have now 3 xterm windows opened (1: typing alias 2: looking for aps > 3: looking in my alias list) > > then what i dont want is, wenn a friend of mine starting my libretto, or > using it, that he/she is able to see the wepkeys in "cleartext" as easy > as it is in my alias file. > > and the problem about the rights to configere: > > is it possible to finde a way by adding sudo rights oder starting a > daemon of your programm which have the rights to use ifconfig an the GUI > only gifs instructions to this daemon? > this are only some stupid ideas. > > i would be happy if there is a programm or will be written. > also if it will find its way into the port tree. > > and i can help with the german translation if it is necassary. > > thanks > > herbert (from austria) > > > Walker, Michael wrote: > >>> hello! >>> >>> i am using a hacked orinoco silver in my libretto 100CT >>> the pcmcia card will detected without problems. >>> >>> i want to take my little friend with me at school and at home. >>> also other users want to use this subnotebook. >>> >>> so is it possible to conigure wlan connections via a graphicle user >>> interface? also new wlan AP should be able to add via this software. >>> >>> it should be easier to use then ifconfig. >>> windows users should also be able to handle this tool. >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> herbert >> >> >> >> I don't know of any graphical interfaces to ifconfig off the top of my >> head. >> But writing one would be a simple task using C, GTK and a few system() >> calls. The problem lies in that users whom don't necessarily know what >> they >> are doing (or I am assuming they don't as they can't use ifconfig) would >> need root access to use the program. I wouldn't recommend this, or even >> having the program run with the suid bit set. >> If you don't care about this, I would be happy to write the program >> for you, >> I'm looking for a project at the moment, and this could fit the bill >> of what >> I need. >> HTH >> Mick Walker >> >> >> ********************************************************************************** >> >> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may >> be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of >> the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have >> received this email in error or think you may have done so, you may >> not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. Please >> notify the sender immediately and delete the original e-mail from your >> system. >> >> Computer viruses can be transmitted by e-mail. Recipients should check >> this e-mail for the presence of viruses. The Capita Group and its >> subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus >> transmitted by this e-mail. >> *********************************************************************************** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > -- *--------------------------- + http://www.redhotchilli.org + http://www.wasted-darlings.com + http://webcam.istsehr.org + http://www.kirnbo.net ---------------------------* In life there are going to be some things thats going to make it hard to smile. But what ever you do, through all the rain and the pain, you got to keep your sense of humor, you got to smile for me now. REMEMBER THAT From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 10:05:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B83516A4CF for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:05:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65A7643D3F for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2005 10:05:07 -0000 Received: from Eis1.oejab.at (EHLO [10.10.1.100]) (193.170.120.242) by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2005 11:05:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F619DC.3070900@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:05:16 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: wlan conig tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:05:09 -0000 first user sould see all available aps and all aps which where configured any time then he will see which are even configured which are not then he can configure networks or reconfigure connect let him connect to the wanted available AP and this should be handled as easy as possible. i know that this is not BSDlike, but i think its a good idea and wlan get more and more important, why cant it get easier???? also a indicator if the pc or the interface is connected or not can be usable. a ping the url xyz button can also be usable this idea is not, cause i am too stupid or cause i hate reading. i think it can be handled much easier. if there is no possibility i will go on with ifconfig :( Walker, Michael wrote: > So basically you are looking for a tool that will list all the available > wireless networks available. > When the user selects one, he is prompted to enter a plain text password. > The program will then convert this value to its hexadecimal format. > And connect to the network, and call dhcp client to obtain a new IP > Address. > > Is there anything I have missed? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Feutl [mailto:herbert.feutl@gmx.at] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:42 AM > To: Walker, Michael; freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: wlan conig tool > > > the problem about root rights is a problem i also thought about. > i am not so good in using freebsd but i will get better. > > the problem of die ifconfig and the long syntac can be handled by aliases. > but as example in our school there ar more then 5 APs and at home I also > have 2. > but i dont noch in school which of the APs is reachable. > so i had to start first a tool which shows me the reachable APs. > then i had to call the alias. > > alos iam not able to see without adding new commands which wlan aps i > have also addes and configured. > i had to look for my aliases. > > so i have now 3 xterm windows opened (1: typing alias 2: looking for aps > 3: looking in my alias list) > > then what i dont want is, wenn a friend of mine starting my libretto, or > using it, that he/she is able to see the wepkeys in "cleartext" as easy > as it is in my alias file. > > and the problem about the rights to configere: > > is it possible to finde a way by adding sudo rights oder starting a > daemon of your programm which have the rights to use ifconfig an the GUI > only gifs instructions to this daemon? > > this are only some stupid ideas. > > i would be happy if there is a programm or will be written. > also if it will find its way into the port tree. > > and i can help with the german translation if it is necassary. > > thanks > > herbert (from austria) > > > Walker, Michael wrote: > >>hello! > >> > >>i am using a hacked orinoco silver in my libretto 100CT > >>the pcmcia card will detected without problems. > >> > >>i want to take my little friend with me at school and at home. > >>also other users want to use this subnotebook. > >> > >>so is it possible to conigure wlan connections via a graphicle user > >>interface? also new wlan AP should be able to add via this software. > >> > >>it should be easier to use then ifconfig. > >>windows users should also be able to handle this tool. > >> > >>thanks > >> > >>herbert > > > > > > I don't know of any graphical interfaces to ifconfig off the top of > my head. > > But writing one would be a simple task using C, GTK and a few system() > > calls. The problem lies in that users whom don't necessarily know > what they > > are doing (or I am assuming they don't as they can't use ifconfig) would > > need root access to use the program. I wouldn't recommend this, or even > > having the program run with the suid bit set. > > If you don't care about this, I would be happy to write the program > for you, > > I'm looking for a project at the moment, and this could fit the bill > of what > > I need. > > HTH > > Mick Walker > > > > > > > ********************************************************************************** > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and > may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use > of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > > > If you have received this email in error or think you may have done > so, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this > message. 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But what ever you do, through all the rain and the pain, you got to keep your sense of humor, you got to smile for me now. REMEMBER THAT From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 10:58:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CACF16A4CF for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:58:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-f2.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBC543D39 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:58:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yokean1@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 02:57:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 210.195.42.5 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:56:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [210.195.42.5] X-Originating-Email: [yokean1@hotmail.com] X-Sender: yokean1@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <41F57E19.7060109@finnovative.net> From: "yoke an" To: linuxuser@finnovative.net, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:56:54 +0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2005 10:57:01.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[99134CD0:01C502CC] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: Problematic Rebooting of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:58:06 -0000 >Hi, > >Is there anyway to get a FreeBSD system to reboot? >I use "shutdown -r now", but then I have to later manually flick the >reset switch. It does not automatically restart. > >This gets problematic when I make changes to rc.conf, and I wanted >to see the effects after reboot. > > - joaquin Try use "reboot". This will help to automatically restart. _________________________________________________________________ Find answers fast with [1]MSN Search BETA. New look and improved results. Give it a try! References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENMY/2737??PS=47575 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 16:05:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFE016A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:05:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52602.mail.yahoo.com (web52602.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F9BA43D53 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:05:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jackredman45@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 59385 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jan 2005 16:05:33 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=D9eWF8UUxjNpll88WTNv3tdmymKAkwrLd/fs/yBhA0LxWJZ45jXKsSIpXnQd/tXvq77tmKIMxezbpM+cZXRHDgCPzVBRx737JqwH/sOB+BGzmefkMPDQ8YJCuNani3RM7mOMy4PG1sM+vQWVaJoPQyu3UcA/a9mAVWwr4odv/tY= ; Message-ID: <20050125160533.59383.qmail@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.28.53.117] by web52602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:05:32 PST Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:05:32 -0800 (PST) From: Redman Jack To: Tom Huppi In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:05:34 -0000 --- Tom Huppi wrote: > > Ah! I had not grasped that 'kdrive' was on > Xorg/XFree86 > replacement. Too bad it's in the ports collection. > Do you have > any experiance with it? My concern would be how it > interoperates > with various existing x11-toolkits (but I only > vaugly understand > the technology and potential sticking points.) > I have no experiance with Rule Linux so I can't answer your questions. Rule has a mailing list under the Support link on the home page. There is also a list archive that you could search. Sorry I can't be more helpful. > > It is. My initial thought was to use Linux since > there are so > many purpose oriented distributions. I also ran > across 'wclp', > but the other two you mentioned seem to be > constantly comming up > on my searches too. I actually learned of 'dillo' > from one > of these distribution's web pages. > > Later I started to shift to thinking maybe I should > do this > project (upgrading my friend's old machine) with > FreeBSD. I think > the OS itself is probably as suitable as most Linux > kernels, and I > know FreeBSD infinitly better. I see my choices > here as: > > - Re-install his Win95 and try to tell him how to > aviod viruses. > > - Try to pick a good and well supported Linux > distro and learn it > well enough to make it work for his limited needs. > > - Install modern FreeBSD and try to choose > lightweight apps. His > current Win95 is very slow so even FreeBSD thrashing > like mad > might be an improvement. > > - Grab one of my many ancient FreeBSD install > disks, throw a few > things on the machine, and forget about my normal > tendancy to want > to keep things up to date. > > Dunno what to do yet, but I've got a few weeks to > figure it out. > > Thanks, > > - Tom Another possibility is to install the Freebsd base and then us VectorLinux as a blue print for installing apps. There's a comparative table that lists the major apps used like the window manager, web browser and so on. VectorLinux home page --> VL versions --> bottom of page. I use both Gnome and FVWM and I notice a difference in performance. FVWM is faster than Gnome. By watching what you install you should be able to improve performance. Jack __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 19:04:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2826716A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:04:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3017743D41 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:04:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmello@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so637470rne for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:04:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Hx5RA2ZsqURHbm7lebwdwBvviiY3DkNvUZiFxXKNs3I1HsrrzE3IPc0r3QDLZpo6DQ94Z2NRwPOBKJ7Wgd4/ap7CYzF/ep85mnqDjwWnExEciHgHVd6Il9E8xoIskL+9fd3WXh5cQdTpXL8tBhR1D/u678eyOyLX5Vxvo8nEY3o= Received: by 10.38.79.32 with SMTP id c32mr222979rnb; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.15.66 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:04:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:04:07 -0200 From: Cesar Mello To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: <41F5CC50.90406@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> <41F5CC50.90406@nbritton.org> cc: Tom Huppi cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cesar Mello List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:04:09 -0000 > There is nothing wrong with Xorg and it is lightwight, the problem is > what you run on it: > > Mem: 1460K Active, 3588K Inact, 13M Wired, 7792K Buf, 471M Free > Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 512 root 8 0 1800K 1240K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh > 513 root 96 0 2384K 1572K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top > ----------------------------------------- > Mem: 13M Active, 12M Inact, 19M Wired, 13M Buf, 446M Free > Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 529 root 96 0 82024K 20372K select 0:01 0.58% 0.49% Xorg > 528 root 8 0 2180K 1240K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xinit > 514 root 8 0 1796K 1272K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh > 512 root 8 0 1804K 1244K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh > 532 root 96 0 2384K 1572K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top You call that lightweight?! 20 MB just to draw some rectangles and manage a mouse pointer? :-) By the way, even the smallest X apps make X suck a lot more memory. I have a Windows CE running in an embedded PC here and all the GUI + IE6 sucks 8 MB of RAM. I would really like to do that with FreeBSD. Best regards, Cesar From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 19:52:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BA316A4CE for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:52:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B345F43D39 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:52:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050125195222i9100mkdnme>; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:52:23 +0000 Message-ID: <41F6A375.1050704@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:52:21 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Huppi References: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> <41F5CC50.90406@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Cesar Mello cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:52:24 -0000 Tom Huppi wrote: > >On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >>Tom Huppi wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Cesar Mello wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>FreeBSD is an excellent OS, I just dream with a GUI that's not as >>>>heavy as currently xorg is. >>>> >>>> >>>Xorg seems to be the real sticking point. FreeBSD's virtual >>>memory subsystem has long been very good at adjusting to limited >>>resources (dunno if Linux has caught up in this respect yet.) >>>Matt Dillon wrote a nice technical description of how the VM >>>subsystem takes a certain number of page hits in order to gage >>>usage and adjust. It was quite noticeable in terms of >>>responsiveness back in the old days. >>> >>> >>There is nothing wrong with Xorg and it is lightwight, the problem is >>what you run on it: >> >> > >I guess there are different interpretation of 'lightweight' > >Your machine is stronger in memory terms than the one I'm using at >the moment, and it seems that your Xorg is using more mem >(although we have about the same amount resident.) Is your build >of Xorg a standard ports build or package or something at all >special? > most are built with some type of opt flags but nothing radical. > (I'm wondering if Xorg itself adjusts at load time based >on resource availability.) Oh...how much mem do you have on your >graphics adapter? > > GeForce2 GTS w/64MB....nvidia-driver-1.0.6113_3 -------------------- (lol, I need to switch email clients!) last pid: 54729; load averages: 0.27, 0.36, 0.32 up 0+15:34:52 13:47:15 83 processes: 1 running, 82 sleeping CPU states: 3.5% user, 10.5% nice, 8.9% system, 1.2% interrupt, 75.9% idle Mem: 258M Active, 107M Inact, 98M Wired, 21M Cache, 60M Buf, 5216K Free Swap: 1024M Total, 24K Used, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 1047 nbritton 20 0 107M 74000K kserel 3:08 0.00% 0.00% thunderbird-bin 649 nbritton 96 0 103M 52868K select 3:22 1.71% 1.71% Xorg 54281 nbritton 20 0 40444K 32060K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% firefox-bin 1435 nbritton 20 10 35396K 18284K kserel 1:03 0.00% 0.00% gnome-terminal 715 nbritton 20 0 29496K 21400K kserel 0:04 0.00% 0.00% nautilus 713 nbritton 96 0 22216K 15864K select 0:06 0.00% 0.00% gnome-panel 666 nbritton 96 0 20036K 12280K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-settings-daem 739 nbritton 96 0 19552K 12520K select 1:09 0.00% 0.00% clock-applet 653 nbritton 96 0 19344K 12460K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-session 728 nbritton 96 0 19244K 13160K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% wnck-applet 734 nbritton 96 0 18500K 12272K select 1:14 0.00% 0.00% multiload-applet-2 720 nbritton 96 0 18472K 11260K select 0:12 0.00% 0.00% mixer_applet2 730 nbritton 109 0 17008K 10652K select 4:12 0.00% 0.00% gnome-netstatus-app 690 nbritton 96 0 14032K 10084K select 0:07 0.00% 0.00% metacity 51670 nbritton 96 0 12492K 9772K select 0:06 0.00% 0.00% leafpad 49355 nbritton 96 0 12312K 8920K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% leafpad 655 nbritton 96 0 11864K 10324K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 722 nbritton 20 0 9384K 5524K kserel 0:03 0.00% 0.00% gnome-vfs-daemon 664 nbritton 96 0 9292K 4708K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-smproxy 564 root 96 0 8364K 6800K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 6834 nbritton 106 10 7600K 6216K select 0:14 0.00% 0.00% python 662 nbritton 96 0 6008K 3744K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 428 root 96 0 3768K 2340K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% sendmail 422 root 117 0 3712K 1904K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 432 smmsp 20 0 3668K 2136K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail 660 nbritton 96 0 3488K 2744K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% esd 679 nbritton 96 0 3448K 2340K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% xscreensaver 54507 nbritton 20 10 3172K 2236K kserel 0:01 0.00% 0.00% splay 1442 nbritton 4 10 3144K 1296K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% gnome-pty-helper 726 nbritton 96 0 2992K 1272K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% mapping-daemon 658 nbritton 96 0 2980K 1376K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% gnome-keyring-daemo 737 nbritton -8 0 2920K 964K piperd 21:56 2.00% 2.00% libgtop_server2 54506 nbritton 8 10 2688K 1704K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% splay 53396 nbritton 106 10 2592K 1700K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top 25427 nbritton 20 0 2536K 1804K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 635 nbritton 20 0 2532K 1828K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 27342 root 5 0 2516K 1812K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% csh 49164 nbritton 20 10 2504K 1764K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 48477 nbritton 5 10 2504K 1760K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 1443 nbritton 20 10 2504K 1732K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 48611 nbritton 5 0 2436K 1796K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 648 nbritton 8 0 2192K 1204K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xinit 235 root 96 0 1956K 1208K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% dhclient From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 07:03:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B3E16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:03:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00A6043D3F for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:03:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 18095 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2005 06:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 06:59:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 17206 invoked by uid 89); 26 Jan 2005 07:05:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 07:05:03 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0977E114CB; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:03:18 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:03:17 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20050126090317.0e7e7e97@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <41F5DC57.1050103@nbritton.org> References: <20041224085217.42737.qmail@web61205.mail.yahoo.com> <41CC0203.6020609@nbritton.org> <41F5DC57.1050103@nbritton.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Mervin McDougall cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/71142; VESA 1024x768 @ the console X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:03:25 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:42:47 -0600 Nikolas Britton wrote: > I got tired of having to patch by hand all the systems I wanted this > patch on and all the systems I patched but then updated with cvsup so I > made a simple batch script to do it for me, this script will do steps > 1...9 (see below). all you have to do is paste it into a file and then > run it as root (i.e. "sh vesa-patch-script"): Care to make it a port ? O should I do it for you put you as maintainer or me if you don't have the time to spare ? -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 09:36:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C7916A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:36:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C807243D3F for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:36:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050126093652i92009v0cqe>; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:36:53 +0000 Message-ID: <41F764B4.1070309@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:36:52 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu References: <20041224085217.42737.qmail@web61205.mail.yahoo.com> <41CC0203.6020609@nbritton.org> <41F5DC57.1050103@nbritton.org> <20050126090317.0e7e7e97@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20050126090317.0e7e7e97@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Mervin McDougall cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/71142; VESA 1024x768 @ the console X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:36:54 -0000 Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: >On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:42:47 -0600 >Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >>I got tired of having to patch by hand all the systems I wanted this >>patch on and all the systems I patched but then updated with cvsup so I >>made a simple batch script to do it for me, this script will do steps >>1...9 (see below). all you have to do is paste it into a file and then >>run it as root (i.e. "sh vesa-patch-script"): >> >> > >Care to make it a port ? O should I do it for you put you as maintainer >or me if you don't have the time to spare ? > > > > Make what a port, you mean that hack I called a script? lol, I guess it could be, never made a port b4, but it would have to be redone as I'd never sign my name to it. It has no error control except for a cascading failure if the patch doesn't download or untar and it should include the patch to fix the mouse error. I think a better idea might be to redo it into a real script and post it to the PR?: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71142 Some pseudocode off the top of my head: if FreeBSD doesn't = 5.x die. if user doesn't have src installed die. if not root die. cd into tmp. if current-vesa_patch.tar.gz exist check md5 hash and if its the same continue elseif patch doesn't exist download it and check md5 hash continue if same else die. if /tmp/current-vesa_patch dir exist remove it. untar the patch. cd into syscons. backup files to be patched. patch the files, if fail replace the mangled files with the backups and then die. (could just use pre-patched files and skip the patching part?) cd into vidcontrol. cp new vidcontrol files. make the new vidcontrol program. do the mouse patch crap. I know only perl so it would have to be done in perl unless someone else wants to make it a real sh script. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 10:28:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0234F16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:28:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6AF143D41 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:28:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 22621 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2005 10:24:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 10:24:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 11926 invoked by uid 89); 26 Jan 2005 10:30:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO buh.cameradicommercio.ro) (82.76.1.117) by 0 with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 10:30:17 -0000 Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro [192.168.0.10]) by buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E5E6115; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:19:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF5E11; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:29:48 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:29:48 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20050126122948.582f9241@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> In-Reply-To: <41F764B4.1070309@nbritton.org> References: <20041224085217.42737.qmail@web61205.mail.yahoo.com> <41CC0203.6020609@nbritton.org> <41F5DC57.1050103@nbritton.org> <20050126090317.0e7e7e97@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <41F764B4.1070309@nbritton.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Mervin McDougall cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/71142; VESA 1024x768 @ the console X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:28:41 -0000 On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:36:52 -0600 Nikolas Britton wrote: > Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > >On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:42:47 -0600 > >Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >>I got tired of having to patch by hand all the systems I wanted this > >>patch on and all the systems I patched but then updated with cvsup so I > >>made a simple batch script to do it for me, this script will do steps > >>1...9 (see below). all you have to do is paste it into a file and then > >>run it as root (i.e. "sh vesa-patch-script"): > > > >Care to make it a port ? Or should I do it for you put you as maintainer > >or me if you don't have the time to spare ? > > > Make what a port, you mean that hack I called a script? lol, I guess it > could be, never made a port b4, but it would have to be redone as I'd > never sign my name to it. It has no error control except for a cascading > failure if the patch doesn't download or untar and it should include the > patch to fix the mouse error. I think a better idea might be to redo it > into a real script and post it to the PR?: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71142 > > Some pseudocode off the top of my head: [ ... ] All of it is very easy to handle with our ports framework. > (could just use pre-patched files and skip the patching part?) It would be easier, I guess, and it would be easy to make the port die if the src/ files have newer IDs that those in the patch ==> safe. > cd into vidcontrol. > cp new vidcontrol files. > make the new vidcontrol program. > do the mouse patch crap. > > I know only perl so it would have to be done in perl unless someone else > wants to make it a real sh script. Then I'll make a port sometime this week. bsd.port.mk has all that is needed and I see no reason to depend on perl. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 09:19:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B403D16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:19:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pumori.subisu.net.np (pumori.subisu.net.np [202.63.240.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAC9643D2F for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:19:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rajkumar@subisu.net.np) Received: (qmail 7712 invoked by uid 509); 26 Jan 2005 09:19:52 -0000 Received: from 202.63.240.24 by pumori (envelope-from , uid 507) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.80/632. spamassassin: 3.0.1. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(202.63.240.24):SA:0(0.0/5.0):. 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(202.63.240.24) by pumori.subisu.net.np with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 09:19:51 -0000 Message-ID: <41F6B7D4.50407@subisu.net.np> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:04:16 +0545 From: raj kumar gurung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:57:37 +0000 Subject: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:19:57 -0000 hi list i am a new-bie to freebsd ..... and i would like to install freebsd in my laptop.Its compaq presario 900.Have anyone tried with this ? i would me helpful Rgds uglyjoe From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 17:42:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1373F16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:42:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8B0F43D39 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:42:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcd_advisory@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 75300 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jan 2005 17:42:41 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Iy4LQgTaxl1hPRokMB/tq/4OvuN6ZY+ZtRcD0tYOV80SzdbKcdfURdHADzrEoyGMsJwLEPOABeJ5YNs3k+Wrx3ZiStvL9qBrrrQvnauWzPOZ8tJ2ozBM+2QDouOoREk04JqxZTSIMlOkZ6LjljHkItTJbkwZRU031KLD2NhsgDk= ; Message-ID: <20050126174241.75298.qmail@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.248.172.15] by web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:42:41 PST Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:42:41 -0800 (PST) From: Mervin McDougall To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: <41F764B4.1070309@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: itetcu@people.tecnik93.com cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: kern/71142; VESA 1024x768 @ the console X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:42:42 -0000 --- Nikolas Britton wrote: > Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > >On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:42:47 -0600 > >Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > > > > > >>I got tired of having to patch by hand all the > systems I wanted this > >>patch on and all the systems I patched but then > updated with cvsup so I > >>made a simple batch script to do it for me, this > script will do steps > >>1...9 (see below). all you have to do is paste it > into a file and then > >>run it as root (i.e. "sh vesa-patch-script"): > >> > >> > > > >Care to make it a port ? O should I do it for you > put you as maintainer > >or me if you don't have the time to spare ? > > > > > > > > > Make what a port, you mean that hack I called a > script? lol, I guess it > could be, never made a port b4, but it would have to > be redone as I'd > never sign my name to it. It has no error control > except for a cascading > failure if the patch doesn't download or untar and > it should include the > patch to fix the mouse error. I think a better idea > might be to redo it > into a real script and post it to the PR?: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71142 > > Some pseudocode off the top of my head: > > if FreeBSD doesn't = 5.x die. > if user doesn't have src installed die. > if not root die. > cd into tmp. > if current-vesa_patch.tar.gz exist check md5 hash > and if its the same > continue elseif patch doesn't exist download it and > check md5 hash > continue if same else die. > if /tmp/current-vesa_patch dir exist remove it. > untar the patch. > cd into syscons. > backup files to be patched. > patch the files, if fail replace the mangled files > with the backups and > then die. > (could just use pre-patched files and skip the > patching part?) > cd into vidcontrol. > cp new vidcontrol files. > make the new vidcontrol program. > do the mouse patch crap. > > I know only perl so it would have to be done in perl > unless someone else > wants to make it a real sh script. > If someone is going to make this into a port, and is looking towards maintaining and upgrading it then I am all for it. I am no programmer but if it means learning some shell scripting to do it I would. But on a more serious note, I think it is important since a lot of persons use freebsd for more than just servers - I use it on my laptop at the university that I attend. And, honestly it is the only way I will surf the net on here cause too many kids have complained about viruses on the networks here. Furthermore with the instability of some Windows updates out there, I would rather trust my assignments and essays and stuff to a system that can keep my data from being corrupted, stolen and plaigirised and always available. So, if there is going to be a port I look foward to it honestly. And, if I can help out in any way- say documenting - I would at least till I can learn some shell scripting... but the actual hacking of any C,C++ code, I will have to leave that to some experts who know more. This would be a good addition for persons who do FreeBSD mobile. Or perhaps there should be an entire port for mobile FreeBSD, for persons who want applications and are using mobile computers... So it would include everything from the Vesa hack to say battery monitors and perhaps a little how to on how to tweak freebsd for laptops :) Anyways, that is my 2 cents __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 18:13:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C5A16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:13:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CED3E43D48 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:13:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 29641 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2005 18:09:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 18:09:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 1664 invoked by uid 89); 26 Jan 2005 18:15:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 18:15:18 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A11A114C3; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:13:32 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:13:30 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Mervin McDougall Message-ID: <20050126201330.765ab296@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20050126174241.75298.qmail@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <41F764B4.1070309@nbritton.org> <20050126174241.75298.qmail@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Nikolas Britton cc: delphij@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: kern/71142; VESA 1024x768 @ the console X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:13:38 -0000 [ newbies really isn't the place for this discussion ] On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:42:41 -0800 (PST) Mervin McDougall wrote: > > --- Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > > > >On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:42:47 -0600 > > >Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>I got tired of having to patch by hand all the > > systems I wanted this > > >>patch on and all the systems I patched but then > > updated with cvsup so I > > >>made a simple batch script to do it for me, this > > script will do steps > > >>1...9 (see below). all you have to do is paste it > > into a file and then > > >>run it as root (i.e. "sh vesa-patch-script"): > > >> > > >> > > > > > >Care to make it a port ? O should I do it for you > > put you as maintainer > > >or me if you don't have the time to spare ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make what a port, you mean that hack I called a > > script? lol, I guess it > > could be, never made a port b4, but it would have to > > be redone as I'd > > never sign my name to it. It has no error control > > except for a cascading > > failure if the patch doesn't download or untar and > > it should include the > > patch to fix the mouse error. I think a better idea > > might be to redo it > > into a real script and post it to the PR?: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=71142 [ ... ] > This would be a good addition for persons who do > FreeBSD mobile. >From what I see the PR has a responsible (delphij@, cc'ed) which makes me believe it would be merged into the tree eventually. Now as I didn't follow the discussion from the beginning does anyone know about a time frame for that ? The port is easy / not time consumming to do but maintaining it in the long run isn't so I would like to know if it will be merged in the near future. > Or perhaps there should be an entire > port for mobile FreeBSD, for persons who want > applications and are using mobile computers... So it > would include everything from the Vesa hack to say > battery monitors and perhaps a little how to on how to > tweak freebsd for laptops :) You're welcome to do it :) There are several battery monitors or applets for kde and gnome and a "profiler" for different environments . -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 18:41:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C0616A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:41:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FB343D2D for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:41:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.55.105] ([192.168.55.105]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:41:09 -0800 Message-ID: <41F7E445.2050707@finnovative.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:41:09 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2005 18:41:09.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A0AF060:01C503D6] Subject: WPA and 802.11i? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:41:10 -0000 Hi, Where can I get information about setting FreeBSD as a wireless access point with WPA (PEAP and/or MS-CHAPv2). I would like to setup such a system that can act as a WAP with WPA and Radius server. I have been having many unusual problems with my Linksys VPN router (aaarghh!!!), and I am thinking of replacing it with a home grown system. - joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 22:23:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D6C16A4CF for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:23:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE42E43D45 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:23:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:23:29 -0600 Message-ID: <41F8185E.7020606@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:23:26 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: raj kumar gurung References: <41F6B7D4.50407@subisu.net.np> In-Reply-To: <41F6B7D4.50407@subisu.net.np> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2005 22:23:30.0244 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9E95840:01C503F5] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:23:31 -0000 raj kumar gurung wrote: > hi list > > i am a new-bie to freebsd ..... and i would like to install freebsd in my > laptop.Its compaq presario 900.Have anyone tried with this ? > i would me helpful > > Rgds > uglyjoe > This page might tell you if anyone has.... http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ If you get it to work, you might enter your information there as well! Good luck! Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 22:47:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A9A16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:47:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCED643D48 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:47:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Jan 2005 22:47:08 -0000 Received: from Eis1.oejab.at (EHLO [192.168.10.28]) (193.170.120.242) by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 26 Jan 2005 23:47:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F81DDE.1030101@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:46:54 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Walker, Michael" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: wlan conig tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:47:13 -0000 hello i wanted to ask what about such a programm or the project of which you spoke? thx herbert Walker, Michael wrote: > So basically you are looking for a tool that will list all the available > wireless networks available. > When the user selects one, he is prompted to enter a plain text password. > The program will then convert this value to its hexadecimal format. > And connect to the network, and call dhcp client to obtain a new IP > Address. > > Is there anything I have missed? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Feutl [mailto:herbert.feutl@gmx.at] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:42 AM > To: Walker, Michael; freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: wlan conig tool > > > the problem about root rights is a problem i also thought about. > i am not so good in using freebsd but i will get better. > > the problem of die ifconfig and the long syntac can be handled by aliases. > but as example in our school there ar more then 5 APs and at home I also > have 2. > but i dont noch in school which of the APs is reachable. > so i had to start first a tool which shows me the reachable APs. > then i had to call the alias. > > alos iam not able to see without adding new commands which wlan aps i > have also addes and configured. > i had to look for my aliases. > > so i have now 3 xterm windows opened (1: typing alias 2: looking for aps > 3: looking in my alias list) > > then what i dont want is, wenn a friend of mine starting my libretto, or > using it, that he/she is able to see the wepkeys in "cleartext" as easy > as it is in my alias file. > > and the problem about the rights to configere: > > is it possible to finde a way by adding sudo rights oder starting a > daemon of your programm which have the rights to use ifconfig an the GUI > only gifs instructions to this daemon? > > this are only some stupid ideas. > > i would be happy if there is a programm or will be written. > also if it will find its way into the port tree. > > and i can help with the german translation if it is necassary. > > thanks > > herbert (from austria) > > > Walker, Michael wrote: > >>hello! > >> > >>i am using a hacked orinoco silver in my libretto 100CT > >>the pcmcia card will detected without problems. > >> > >>i want to take my little friend with me at school and at home. > >>also other users want to use this subnotebook. > >> > >>so is it possible to conigure wlan connections via a graphicle user > >>interface? also new wlan AP should be able to add via this software. > >> > >>it should be easier to use then ifconfig. > >>windows users should also be able to handle this tool. > >> > >>thanks > >> > >>herbert > > > > > > I don't know of any graphical interfaces to ifconfig off the top of > my head. > > But writing one would be a simple task using C, GTK and a few system() > > calls. The problem lies in that users whom don't necessarily know > what they > > are doing (or I am assuming they don't as they can't use ifconfig) would > > need root access to use the program. I wouldn't recommend this, or even > > having the program run with the suid bit set. > > If you don't care about this, I would be happy to write the program > for you, > > I'm looking for a project at the moment, and this could fit the bill > of what > > I need. > > HTH > > Mick Walker > > > > > > > ********************************************************************************** > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and > may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use > of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > > > If you have received this email in error or think you may have done > so, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this > message. 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REMEMBER THAT From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 08:28:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8DE16A4CE for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:28:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carmax.com (p6195-ipad51sasajima.aichi.ocn.ne.jp [60.38.198.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06B5443D2D for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:28:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soouh@rose.plala.or.jp) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:56:49 +0000 From: Stuart Dennison To: Freebsd-newbies References: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: software btufjt X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:28:28 -0000 new soft on http://cyykqy.alfimbmkbd.info/?xg36zixAaBEWP11kbpoug Windows XP Professional $60 Office 2003 Professional (1 CD Edition) $80 MS Money 2004 $60 Windows NT 4.0 Server $40 MS Money 2004 $60 MS Encarta Encyclopedia Delux 2004 (3CD) $80 Office 97 SR2 $40 PhotoRetouch Pro 3.0 $50 Dreamweaver MX 2004 $60 Windows 2000 Advanced Server $60 Corel Draw Graphics Suite 11 $50 PhotoRetouch Pro 3.0 $50 Windows 2000 Advanced Server $60 Acrobat 6.0 Pro $70 LiveMotion 2.0 $60 Director MX 2004 $60 Windows XP Professional With SP2 Full Version $70 Photoshop CS with ImageReady CS $90 Office XP Professional $70 Corel Draw Graphics Suite 11 $50 Fireworks MX 2004 $60 Office 2003 Professional (1 CD Edition) $80 Corel Draw Graphics Suite 11 $50 Windows XP Professional With SP2 Full Version $70 Extensis Portfolio 7.0 $50 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 12:23:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D958716A4CE for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:23:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C58443D4C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:23:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050127122323i92009up4ge>; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:23:23 +0000 Message-ID: <41F8DD3B.40609@nbritton.org> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:23:23 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd-newbies References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: software btufjt X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:23:25 -0000 $60 for windows and $80 for office and I still wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. 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Stuart Dennison wrote: >new soft on http://cyykqy.alfimbmkbd.info/?xg36zixAaBEWP11kbpoug > >Windows XP Professional $60 >Office 2003 Professional (1 CD Edition) $80 >MS Money 2004 $60 >Windows NT 4.0 Server $40 >MS Money 2004 $60 >MS Encarta Encyclopedia Delux 2004 (3CD) $80 >Office 97 SR2 $40 >PhotoRetouch Pro 3.0 $50 >Dreamweaver MX 2004 $60 >Windows 2000 Advanced Server $60 >Corel Draw Graphics Suite 11 $50 >PhotoRetouch Pro 3.0 $50 >Windows 2000 Advanced Server $60 >Acrobat 6.0 Pro $70 >LiveMotion 2.0 $60 >Director MX 2004 $60 >Windows XP Professional With SP2 Full Version $70 >Photoshop CS with ImageReady CS $90 >Office XP Professional $70 >Corel Draw Graphics Suite 11 $50 >Fireworks MX 2004 $60 >Office 2003 Professional (1 CD Edition) $80 >Corel Draw Graphics Suite 11 $50 >Windows XP Professional With SP2 Full Version $70 >Extensis Portfolio 7.0 $50 > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:14:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC3C16A4CE for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:14:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B4043D2F for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:14:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goatse@Phreaker.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([217.215.25.182] [217.215.25.182]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050127161436.UPML12890.mxfep02.bredband.com@[192.168.0.2]> for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:14:36 +0100 Message-ID: <41F9137B.7020003@Phreaker.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:14:51 +0100 From: Anon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to get more HDD space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: goatse@Phreaker.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:14:38 -0000 I have an 200gb harddrive, it says 180gb (due to different size standards) but when Mounted I only have 160gb! I heard FreeBSD is "taking away" a few % of the HDD, for something... but how can I disable that on a harddrive? /thanks! From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:33:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461DE16A4CE for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:33:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6154043D49 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:33:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j0RGXCQO032114; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:33:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A0EE961C3; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:34:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:34:03 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Anon Message-ID: <20050127163403.GA50507@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <41F9137B.7020003@Phreaker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F9137B.7020003@Phreaker.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get more HDD space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:33:15 -0000 --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 05:14:51PM +0100, Anon wrote: > I have an 200gb harddrive, it says 180gb (due to different size=20 > standards) but when Mounted I only have 160gb! > I heard FreeBSD is "taking away" a few % of the HDD, for something...=20 > but how can I disable that on a harddrive? > /thanks! When a filesystem is created, 8% of the space is reserved. You can use the -m parameter to tunefs(8) to reduce this percentage of reserved space. But doing this will slow down the system. See the tunefs manual page.=20 If you need more space, better buy an extra harddrive. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB+Rf7EnfvsMMhpyURAnJ0AJoCrbnlkuTYt3VKGfQsu670Ok5J/wCgrw5Y heY8MBxPGkHtG/Q7ZWWEzN0= =fsij -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 20:28:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35EC16A4CE for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:28:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C22B43D66 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:28:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cosminnn@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so304213rne for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:28:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PCa4+XWu3jlVxdWT4Ua0WfmHPAf56pAuP/EGRGXOD+xcqaWK1bGaNupV41yiPZuowiusGj2jbp5IKIWwef7KLdbn1simo7ijBLp8myDUDEBmy6t3pZHmONX2nnNgQE9Yfz/3OtJXRVLHhODxn/NzncUq0ivr9KYeGyDjl70w9v0= Received: by 10.38.150.44 with SMTP id x44mr133243rnd; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.99.66 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:28:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:28:51 +0200 From: Cosmin Blaj To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: about helping X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmin Blaj List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:28:52 -0000 'FreeBSD newbies might have particular skills and experiences to share' I am from romania and I speak english.I could help with docs or other things that need to be translated into romanian. In other way I have FreeBSD 5.3 and a SATA hard drive and the installations process won't start.Is there anything I can do? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 05:01:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E10E16A4CE for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:01:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-hub2.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp-hub2.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E73C43D55 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:01:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crzdgns1@starpower.net) Received: from ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.13]) by smtp-hub2.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1CuOGR-0006G3-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:01:47 -0500 Received: from 216.15.60.30 by ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with HTTP/1.1; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:01:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:01:47 -0500 From: To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.5.6-GR MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <8e97bec7.c591c815.81b3300@ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where can I find more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:01:49 -0000 Hello, My name is Mark. I recently banished windows and windows-based programs from my (ancient) computer because it is too slow to handle windows XP and all of the attendant programs required to keep it virus and ad-free. I have installed FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE on my computer (Intel Pentium II Celeron, 330 MHz, ~500 Mb Ram, Western Digital Hard Disk (40 Gb, Master), Western Digital Hard Disk (6 Gb, Slave), floppy disk (1.44 Mb), IOMega ZIP-Drive (100Mb, IDE), Hitachi CD/DVD-ROM, Memorex CD-RW, Diamond Multimedia Viper v550 video card, and a few other ancient goodies). I am having great difficulty mounting and unmounting floppies, zips, and CDs from my system. I have done my best to follow the recommendations in The Handbook, The FreeBSD FAQ, and the documentation that came bundled with FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE, all to no avail. I have also searched the archives that I could find using the queries "mount" and "unmount", but didn't find anything that seemed to fit. I have no trouble mounting and unmounting CDs if I use the device manager in KDE, but have had no luck trying to do the same from the command line. Can someone out there recommend additional, better, or easier-to-understand sources of information for someone who is essentially a complete beginner in UNIX and FreeBSD? Alternatively, if I were to post a technical question to a mailing list, which mailing list would be appropriate? Thanks Mark From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 11:21:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF2316A4CE for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:21:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-01.servidoresdns.net (llsa987-a01.servidoresdns.net [82.223.190.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB5143D5D for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lutin@softhome.net) Received: from seth.seth (3.Red-217-126-41.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.41.3]) by smtp-01.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B1145965 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:21:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?q?Lut=C3=ADn?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:21:37 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <41F9137B.7020003@Phreaker.net> <20050127163403.GA50507@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050127163403.GA50507@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200501281221.43274.lutin@softhome.net> Subject: Re: How to get more HDD space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:21:47 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > When a filesystem is created, 8% of the space is reserved. =C2=BFWhy? =2D --=20 La sabidur=C3=ADa es hija de la experiencia,=20 Leonardo da Vinci =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB+iBHVW601sWrp2oRAh0aAKCr0gX/8N5lKMA9+0HV738ydYXEaQCgkwt3 dCEFENBGpzY5nSoANb6cENI=3D =3DcoNM =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 12:19:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3252616A4CE for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:19:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6231E43D41 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:19:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0SCJoUV071041; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:19:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B778E61C3; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:20:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:20:45 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: crzdgns1@starpower.net Message-ID: <20050128122045.GA56376@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: crzdgns1@starpower.net, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <8e97bec7.c591c815.81b3300@ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8e97bec7.c591c815.81b3300@ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where can I find more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:19:52 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 12:01:47AM -0500, crzdgns1@starpower.net wrote: > Hello,=20 > =20 > My name is Mark. I recently banished windows and=20 > windows-based programs from my (ancient) computer because it=20 > is too slow to handle windows XP and all of the attendant=20 > programs required to keep it virus and ad-free. I have=20 > installed FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE on my computer (Intel Pentium=20 > II Celeron, 330 MHz, ~500 Mb Ram, Western Digital Hard Disk=20 > (40 Gb, Master), Western Digital Hard Disk (6 Gb, Slave),=20 > floppy disk (1.44 Mb), IOMega ZIP-Drive (100Mb, IDE), Hitachi=20 > CD/DVD-ROM, Memorex CD-RW, Diamond Multimedia Viper v550=20 > video card, and a few other ancient goodies). I am having=20 > great difficulty mounting and unmounting floppies, zips, and=20 > CDs from my system. Have a look at my FreeBSD page. There might be some helpfull hints there: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ Some highlights: - to mount filesystems as a normal user, the sysctl variable vfs.usermount must be set to 1. (you are logged in as a normal user, righ= t?) - when mounting filesystems, you must be the owner of the mountpoint. - you need read and write persmissions on the devices where the filesystems reside. (see devfs.conf and devfs.rules) Hope this helps, Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB+i4dEnfvsMMhpyURAqQcAKCeuUbQi8V9gWS4ZvEx+UeWCQmKHwCfaH0G qH5QCbZm+sz6pA4Bj1DKiqw= =2arh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 15:12:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDA216A4CE for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:12:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E764143D46 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:12:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alfredoj69@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so310878rnf for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:12:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RlqsGvMtZyu3zxdmuSkUUlTTmg0nvjm1nI0qLt79uCuuo/+ftyVAqKf4td3DhOIAZkeDM735dSvA1dFWpBXN0tbWiT0NK7uNUojmVoLdeMwg+hw68M+/i1HXYvXpitxXaLw7HOSK7ETuplORGAxBSB28j5vaHA5Qrvn0emPQ3s8= Received: by 10.38.164.63 with SMTP id m63mr38322rne; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.100? ([70.24.135.21]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 70sm142560rnc.2005.01.28.07.12.19; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:12:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41FA5652.1060500@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:12:18 -0500 From: Aperez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <8e97bec7.c591c815.81b3300@ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net> In-Reply-To: <8e97bec7.c591c815.81b3300@ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Where can I find more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: alfredoj69@gmail.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:12:25 -0000 I will really recommend you the following web sites: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15 http://bsdforums.org/forums/index.php?s=cbb21bf54cf6ef4cc206f4660a2674a6 and I think the handbook is the best source. Read it slowly and practice with your PC. Good luck crzdgns1@starpower.net wrote: >Hello, > >My name is Mark. I recently banished windows and >windows-based programs from my (ancient) computer because it >is too slow to handle windows XP and all of the attendant >programs required to keep it virus and ad-free. I have >installed FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE on my computer (Intel Pentium >II Celeron, 330 MHz, ~500 Mb Ram, Western Digital Hard Disk >(40 Gb, Master), Western Digital Hard Disk (6 Gb, Slave), >floppy disk (1.44 Mb), IOMega ZIP-Drive (100Mb, IDE), Hitachi >CD/DVD-ROM, Memorex CD-RW, Diamond Multimedia Viper v550 >video card, and a few other ancient goodies). I am having >great difficulty mounting and unmounting floppies, zips, and >CDs from my system. I have done my best to follow the >recommendations in The Handbook, The FreeBSD FAQ, and the >documentation that came bundled with FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE, all >to no avail. I have also searched the archives that I could >find using the queries "mount" and "unmount", but didn't find >anything that seemed to fit. I have no trouble mounting and >unmounting CDs if I use the device manager in KDE, but have >had no luck trying to do the same from the command line. Can >someone out there recommend additional, better, or >easier-to-understand sources of information for someone who >is essentially a complete beginner in UNIX and FreeBSD? >Alternatively, if I were to post a technical question to a >mailing list, which mailing list would be appropriate? > >Thanks > >Mark > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 19:09:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A5716A4CE for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B835743D5A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:09:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from positiveviolence@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so472990wri for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:09:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bDKCSe3vme6BHTj/dRxKkdnvw+AIV8I27S/+brit0LicdBfsUBERRP3cYDsWYusvF87oqL8pAYexb0eHx4HcpBDo0QAfeka+nQbzCAEJh06vHr7FSlAbgsalFuTV6zeI5hAcmY0e2RJuFaqxhosnz+Vvgi2OZFP/nFiTDk4AIiM= Received: by 10.54.56.56 with SMTP id e56mr19539wra; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.3.36 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:09:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ce33c85050128110919492c6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:09:16 -0800 From: Positive Negative To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FTP: .html files dissappear when uploaded to server.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Positive Negative List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:09:19 -0000 1. someone is using a windows ftp client to upload to a BSD apache server. 2. when you try to send a page to BSD server. The files is 0kb and the page dissapppears. 3. It says the page is there but it is 0kb 4. so if you go to it nothing is there. So how do i make it so a page will upload and stay there? crazy stufff.... -- AIM: FucPsSht From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 19:10:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B2B16A4D2 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:10:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E06C43D54 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:10:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0SJAPow007079 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:10:25 GMT (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0SJAPoJ007078 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:10:25 GMT (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:10:25 GMT From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200501281910.j0SJAPoJ007078@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:10:26 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 22:35:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EDC16A4CE for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:35:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3318F43D48 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:35:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so500461wri for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:35:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KwkylINAbV0iF8DO9E7E8Uje8kuiYnBXMg7ZKHpkP14V0h9aBkLxj3co4eWqCib2n0Znmv1GN1Mg1fTDc5f3OtO2fz9zP/dWXmZfHWt+pY98Z0LnsD1ED9iNXGzJ1yKDZ1Pn9B8yTbGWLATdbtAEQZEuBjIanhleCKhDXNewVlI= Received: by 10.54.28.80 with SMTP id b80mr76317wrb; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:35:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.42.47 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:35:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <810a540e0501281435653ab9ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:35:58 -0700 From: Pat Maddox To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing the JDK without Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pat Maddox List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:36:00 -0000 I've installed the native jdk14 successfully, but noticed that it installed Xorg along with it. I imagine that's a dependency for the Java plugin or something. I'm using this machine just as a test server, I won't be using X at all, so I'd like to build jdk14 without having to build and install Xorg as well. Is it possible to do that? Thanks, Pat From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 22:41:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE6A16A4CE for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:41:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FAB43D1F for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:41:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so501068wri for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:41:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pW6M+j+Az+7+BUqCsjWBtRePzMtLF1z3jKAHtRNXim/ILMgJWGdrHjAhn2penlHY91yRNZGv7gCw5NTtBRnI/iRUx9nvqizA1OV+9Eebn+lXOYaGl00NeEed2BBbRykm3YQ1Oj4rkdaDOC2gaJtoAIc44MpMecmpXrw0P6/TBEM= Received: by 10.54.2.11 with SMTP id 11mr128990wrb; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.42.47 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:41:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <810a540e05012814412d0ee32b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:41:52 -0700 From: Pat Maddox To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing the JDK without Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pat Maddox List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:41:56 -0000 I've installed the native jdk14 successfully, but noticed that it installed Xorg along with it. I imagine that's a dependency for the Java plugin or something. I'm using this machine just as a test server, I won't be using X at all, so I'd like to build jdk14 without having to build and install Xorg as well. Is it possible to do that? Thanks, Pat From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 00:44:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36FD16A4CF for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:44:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AE543D45 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:44:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:44:28 -0600 Message-ID: <41FADC68.7040809@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:44:24 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: crzdgns1@starpower.net References: <8e97bec7.c591c815.81b3300@ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net> In-Reply-To: <8e97bec7.c591c815.81b3300@ms07.mrf.mail.rcn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2005 00:44:28.0947 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0847E30:01C5059B] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where can I find more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:44:28 -0000 crzdgns1@starpower.net wrote: >Hello, > >My name is Mark. I recently banished windows and >windows-based programs from my (ancient) computer because it >is too slow to handle windows XP and all of the attendant >programs required to keep it virus and ad-free. I have >installed FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE on my computer (Intel Pentium >II Celeron, 330 MHz, ~500 Mb Ram, Western Digital Hard Disk >(40 Gb, Master), Western Digital Hard Disk (6 Gb, Slave), >floppy disk (1.44 Mb), IOMega ZIP-Drive (100Mb, IDE), Hitachi >CD/DVD-ROM, Memorex CD-RW, Diamond Multimedia Viper v550 >video card, and a few other ancient goodies). I am having >great difficulty mounting and unmounting floppies, zips, and >CDs from my system. I have done my best to follow the >recommendations in The Handbook, The FreeBSD FAQ, and the >documentation that came bundled with FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE, all >to no avail. I have also searched the archives that I could >find using the queries "mount" and "unmount", but didn't find >anything that seemed to fit. I have no trouble mounting and >unmounting CDs if I use the device manager in KDE, but have >had no luck trying to do the same from the command line. Can >someone out there recommend additional, better, or >easier-to-understand sources of information for someone who >is essentially a complete beginner in UNIX and FreeBSD? >Alternatively, if I were to post a technical question to a >mailing list, which mailing list would be appropriate? > > Hi, Mark! Welcome to FreeBSD! If you wish to post a technical question to a mailing list, the most appropriate one is quesions@freebsd.org. I'll show you something I use(d) for floppies: #alias | grep a: a: sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy && cd /floppy && ls -l A couple of assumptions: *I* have sudo installed (/usr/ports/security/sudo) and have a directory under / called floppy (which I think everyone has by default?) Anyway, typing "a:" into my shell mounts the floppy, moves me to that directory and lists everything on it in long form ... kinda cool. You've gotten the correct answer already ... according to the handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook) you do need to set a sysctl value and chown the mount point. What you see above was my solution before I read that page ;-) It does kind of show you how "there are many ways to skin a cat" ... which is a nice thing about UNIXes in general ... the philosophy is "tools, not policy". Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 00:50:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850F716A4CE for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:50:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DA543D2D for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:50:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:50:24 -0600 Message-ID: <41FADDCD.4040302@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:50:21 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?THV0w61u?= References: <41F9137B.7020003@Phreaker.net> <20050127163403.GA50507@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200501281221.43274.lutin@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <200501281221.43274.lutin@softhome.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2005 00:50:25.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[8519E130:01C5059C] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get more HDD space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:50:24 -0000 Lutín wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > > > >>When a filesystem is created, 8% of the space is reserved. >> >> > >¿Why? > > > Check the manpage for tunefs(8), under the "-m" option, for an explanation. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 01:27:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B54616A4CE for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:27:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D2943D49 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:27:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050129012659i9200q3rdne>; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:27:00 +0000 Message-ID: <41FAE662.8090901@nbritton.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:26:58 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pat Maddox References: <810a540e05012814412d0ee32b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <810a540e05012814412d0ee32b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing the JDK without Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:27:01 -0000 Pat Maddox wrote: >I've installed the native jdk14 successfully, but noticed that it >installed Xorg along with it. I imagine that's a dependency for the >Java plugin or something. I'm using this machine just as a test >server, I won't be using X at all, so I'd like to build jdk14 without >having to build and install Xorg as well. Is it possible to do that? > > > That is only X libs (header files and (shared) library files), so X is not installed.... so don't worry about it. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 01:31:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C930B16A4CE for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:31:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEBE343D49 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:31:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 30199 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2005 01:27:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 29 Jan 2005 01:27:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 11748 invoked by uid 89); 29 Jan 2005 01:33:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO buh.cameradicommercio.ro) (82.76.1.117) by 0 with SMTP; 29 Jan 2005 01:33:36 -0000 Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro [192.168.0.10]) by buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85AC609A; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:22:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99121117; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:32:52 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:32:52 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Cosmin Blaj Message-ID: <20050129033252.3e989ca1@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: about helping X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:31:42 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:28:51 +0200 Cosmin Blaj wrote: > 'FreeBSD newbies might have particular skills and experiences to share' > > I am from romania and I speak english.I could help with docs or other > things that need to be translated into romanian. Welcome :) Please subscribe to ro-l10n@rofug.ro. See www.rofug.org for details and read mailing list archive. Contact me on private if you run into any kind of problems. > In other way I have FreeBSD 5.3 and a SATA hard drive and the > installations process won't start. Is there anything I can do? Hard to say without specific info (what controller, HDD, etc.) which you should post on questions@ or stable@ -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 01:35:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF42616A4CE for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:35:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D14343D45 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:35:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050129013525i9200q49vle>; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:35:26 +0000 Message-ID: <41FAE85D.5060700@nbritton.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:35:25 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Positive Negative References: <3ce33c85050128110919492c6a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3ce33c85050128110919492c6a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP: .html files dissappear when uploaded to server.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:35:27 -0000 Positive Negative wrote: >1. someone is using a windows ftp client to upload to a BSD apache server. > >2. when you try to send a page to BSD server. The files is 0kb and the >page dissapppears. > >3. It says the page is there but it is 0kb > >4. so if you go to it nothing is there. > >So how do i make it so a page will upload and stay there? > >crazy stufff.... > > > > > > Have them try it with a diffrent ftp client. Filezilla is a very nice free and open source FTP client: http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 04:59:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C1116A4CE for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 04:59:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5192443D49 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 04:59:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050129045943i91001nv3oe>; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 04:59:43 +0000 Message-ID: <41FB183E.9080802@nbritton.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:59:42 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <41F9137B.7020003@Phreaker.net> <20050127163403.GA50507@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200501281221.43274.lutin@softhome.net> <41FADDCD.4040302@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <41FADDCD.4040302@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: =?UTF-8?B?THV0w61u?= cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get more HDD space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 04:59:44 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Lutín wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >>> When a filesystem is created, 8% of the space is reserved. >>> >> >> >> ¿Why? >> >> >> > > Check the manpage for tunefs(8), under the "-m" option, > for an explanation. > From man 7 tuning: "tunefs(8) may be used to further tune a file system. This command can be run in single-user mode without having to reformat the file system. How- ever, this is possibly the most abused program in the system. Many peo- ple attempt to increase available file system space by setting the min- free percentage to 0. This can lead to severe file system fragmentation and we do not recommend that you do this." From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 19:01:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D355316A4CE for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:01:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1F3443D1D for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:01:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.67?) (r11roadster@68.119.38.69 with login) by smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2005 19:01:55 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [265.7.5]); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:01:51 -0500 From: "Ronny Hippler" To: "freebsd newbies" Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:01:37 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: <41FAE85D.5060700@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050129190155.A1F3443D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: FTP: .html files dissappear when uploaded to server.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ronny Hippler List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:01:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:35:25 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: >>1. someone is using a windows ftp client to upload to a BSD apache server. >>3. It says the page is there but it is 0kb >>4. so if you go to it nothing is there. >>So how do i make it so a page will upload and stay there? >Have them try it with a diffrent ftp client. Filezilla is a very nice >free and open source FTP client: http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ I use smart ftp(windows) and it works just fine uploading to Pure ftpd and bftpd. - -- Don't mind me; I'm the designated drunk. Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.ronnyhippler.com/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 iQA/AwUBQfvdkTeqiUsaKJ66EQLwbgCg5ZrxkeXAY7FR5h2EHdnEdjmXBfkAoLfH DmDBHu/KD+gk7l0IaTwK7tnW =z5iZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 22:03:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286C816A564 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:03:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay3-f13.bay3.hotmail.com [65.54.169.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A8C43D5F for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:03:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xtremejames183@msn.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:03:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 213.150.169.21 by by3fd.bay3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:02:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.150.169.21] X-Originating-Email: [xtremejames183@msn.com] X-Sender: xtremejames183@msn.com From: "Mrad James Deane" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:02:33 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2005 22:03:01.0508 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CC45C40:01C5064E] Subject: kernel compile problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:03:02 -0000 Hi,i have follow the freebsd handbook on how to compile a kernel but i have a problem : when compile : i have the following message : make:don't know how to make buildkernel.Stop i'm using freebsd 5.2.1 release and i have removed NoAtm=true on make.conf Plz help, Thanks _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail : antivirus et antispam intégrés http://www.msn.fr/newhotmail/Default.asp?Ath=f From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 22:07:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FCE16A4CF for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:07:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50A343D41 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:07:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp helo=hexren.steenbuck.net) id 1Cv0kU-0007eF-6h; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:07:22 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:07:21 +0100 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7239788402.20050129230721@hexren.net> To: "Mrad James Deane" In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel compile problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:07:23 -0000 MJD> Hi,i have follow the freebsd handbook on how to compile a kernel but i have MJD> a problem : MJD> when compile : i have the following message : MJD> make:don't know how to make buildkernel.Stop MJD> i'm using freebsd 5.2.1 release and i have removed NoAtm=true on make.conf MJD> Plz help, MJD> Thanks MJD> _________________________________________________________________ MJD> MSN Hotmail : antivirus et antispam intégrés MJD> http://www.msn.fr/newhotmail/Default.asp?Ath=f MJD> _______________________________________________ MJD> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list MJD> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies MJD> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------------------- Are you in /usr/src when you try to do make buidlkernel ?