From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 04:56:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4939916A41C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 04:56:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBCC443D48 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 04:56:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34601 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2005 04:56:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) (seanmwelch@66.41.102.215 with plain) by smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2005 04:56:51 -0000 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6A4t5vF036922; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:55:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (from welchsm@localhost) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6A4t4Em036921; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:55:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:55:04 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> References: <20050705163155.GA18493@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CB0C67.7030705@freebsd.org> <20050706011247.GA20055@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CB3243.2010804@freebsd.org> <20050706221854.GA23695@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CC6180.3090102@freebsd.org> <20050708123053.GA30311@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CE7984.5060306@freebsd.org> <20050708193114.GA31469@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini and Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 04:56:53 -0000 I've succeeded in getting X to run. I've also seen the dimness you mentioned -- seems to be a reinitialization issue. I've got a combined patch (your changes plus the mods already in the port) but I'm trying to get some more ifdef's into place so that only ppc gets the parts that aren't currently ifdef'ed. Some things I've noticed -- I had to comment out the ttya and ttyb entries in /etc/ttys because getty was going nuts trying to initialize them. It kept complaining they don't exist in /dev (even though they do). Even so, I get a string of: ofwfb_ioctl: unimplemented at boot. In addition, though /boot/kernel/sound.ko exists, kldload sound gives the following: kldload: can't load sound: No such file or directory while the console shows: link_elf: symbol isa_dmastart undefined I didn't really expect it to work but I did think it would load -- did you know about the missing symbol already? I tried dpms and it does work under X just fine. I seem able to freeze the system fairly regularly -- it may just be starting and restarting X but I've not yet been able to isolate the cause. (X won't start every time -- it doesn't always figure out that some modes can run even though I've hardcoded some into the xorg.conf) Seems to drop to the debugger about once every 4 times or so. I'm delighted with the progress of the ppc port -- let me know if there is anything else I can test specifically. Sean From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 05:43:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0B616A41C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:43:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C252843D48 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:43:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6A5h37v092006; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:43:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:43:09 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org References: <20050705163155.GA18493@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CB0C67.7030705@freebsd.org> <20050706011247.GA20055@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CB3243.2010804@freebsd.org> <20050706221854.GA23695@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CC6180.3090102@freebsd.org> <20050708123053.GA30311@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CE7984.5060306@freebsd.org> <20050708193114.GA31469@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org> <20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> In-Reply-To: <20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini and Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:43:09 -0000 Hi Sean, > I've succeeded in getting X to run. I've also seen the dimness you > mentioned -- seems to be a reinitialization issue. I've got a > combined patch (your changes plus the mods already in the port) but > I'm trying to get some more ifdef's into place so that only ppc gets > the parts that aren't currently ifdef'ed. OK, let me know what you come up with and I can give it a try. > Some things I've noticed -- I had to comment out the ttya and ttyb > entries in /etc/ttys because getty was going nuts trying to initialize > them. It kept complaining they don't exist in /dev (even though they > do). This is fallout from some generic tty changes a long while back. It should be safe to remove them, and at some point the zs driver will be replaced with the uart driver which I think doesn't have the problem. > Even so, I get a string of: > > ofwfb_ioctl: unimplemented This message comes from the OpenFirmware syscons framebuffer module. If you have a look at sys/powerpc/ofw/ofw_syscons.c you'll see: static int ofwfb_ioctl(video_adapter_t *adp, u_long cmd, caddr_t data) { TODO; return (0); } ... so the TODO printf line could probably be removed. > In addition, though /boot/kernel/sound.ko exists, kldload > sound gives the following: > > kldload: can't load sound: No such file or directory > > while the console shows: > > link_elf: symbol isa_dmastart undefined What's happening there is that the PCM module (incorrectly) has a dependency on ISA. Tilman found this also: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20050426145734.GC2894 The ISA symbols aren't in the kernel, failing the link, and resulting in the slightly obtuse error message from kldload. > I tried dpms and it does work under X just fine. Good to hear. > I seem able to freeze the system fairly regularly -- it may just be > starting and restarting X but I've not yet been able to isolate the > cause. (X won't start every time -- it doesn't always figure out that > some modes can run even though I've hardcoded some into the xorg.conf) > Seems to drop to the debugger about once every 4 times or so. > > I'm delighted with the progress of the ppc port -- let me know if > there is anything else I can test specifically. I'm always interested in a backtrace if you can get one from the debugger, or even the routine where the panic/fatal trap occurs. Other than that, I'd say just run as much as you can and report how it goes, good bad or otherwise. Thanks for having the patience to jump through the Xorg hoops ! later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 08:01:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFF416A41C; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from orthanc.ca (orthanc.ca [209.89.70.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E13E43D45; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.2] (d216-232-211-96.bchsia.telus.net [216.232.211.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by orthanc.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6A80oGc077957; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:00:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) In-Reply-To: <42CF1B91.2090902@freebsd.org> References: <42CEF70A.2060605@freebsd.org> <20050709000616.22155977.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20050708230454.GA4742@dragon.NUXI.org> <42CF1B91.2090902@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9F1F43A3-AD10-41CC-BD11-EF912D232D6B@orthanc.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyndon Nerenberg Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:00:44 -0700 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-DCC-sgs_public_dcc_server-Metrics: orthanc.ca 1199; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on orthanc.ca Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Duty-cycle on mini's (was Re: Compiler patches ...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:01:11 -0000 >> Are they really designed to run at full bore at the time? > > You'd hope so, and that the fans blowing full speed would allow > this to be the case. I've not had this happen on mine, so perhaps > it's a ventilation issue ? I can't speak to "designed" for flat-out operation, but my mini runs 24x7 without complaint. During the day the CPU is often pinned for hours on end doing massive compiles. Or running simple Java apps :-P The only side effect I've noticed from heavy CPU load is the cat wanting to curl up on top of it. (Which also doesn't seem to bother the machine :-) --lyndon From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 08:58:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E77516A41C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:58:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0836E43D45 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:58:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6A8wG7v092274; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:58:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D0E32F.1000105@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:58:23 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyndon Nerenberg References: <42CEF70A.2060605@freebsd.org> <20050709000616.22155977.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20050708230454.GA4742@dragon.NUXI.org> <42CF1B91.2090902@freebsd.org> <9F1F43A3-AD10-41CC-BD11-EF912D232D6B@orthanc.ca> In-Reply-To: <9F1F43A3-AD10-41CC-BD11-EF912D232D6B@orthanc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Duty-cycle on mini's (was Re: Compiler patches ...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:58:19 -0000 > I can't speak to "designed" for flat-out operation, but my mini runs > 24x7 without complaint. > > During the day the CPU is often pinned for hours on end doing massive > compiles. Or running simple Java apps :-P Hmmm, Java ? That doesn't sound like FreeBSD :) FreeBSD/ppc's idle proc is the equivalent of running pinned 24x7. OSX may even have a temperature sensor/fan speed feedback loop ala the G5 to keep things under control. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 09:49:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3678A16A41C; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from orthanc.ca (orthanc.ca [209.89.70.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED6743D4C; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:49:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.2] (d216-232-211-96.bchsia.telus.net [216.232.211.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by orthanc.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6A9nQNt078950; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 03:49:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) In-Reply-To: <42D0E32F.1000105@freebsd.org> References: <42CEF70A.2060605@freebsd.org> <20050709000616.22155977.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20050708230454.GA4742@dragon.NUXI.org> <42CF1B91.2090902@freebsd.org> <9F1F43A3-AD10-41CC-BD11-EF912D232D6B@orthanc.ca> <42D0E32F.1000105@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2ECB33A5-AB0B-487C-BF33-641DB30BE31B@orthanc.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Lyndon Nerenberg Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:49:20 -0700 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-DCC-neonova-Metrics: orthanc.ca 1127; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on orthanc.ca Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Duty-cycle on mini's (was Re: Compiler patches ...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:49:59 -0000 > Hmmm, Java ? That doesn't sound like FreeBSD :) > You're right -- it's the sound of rent :-( > FreeBSD/ppc's idle proc is the equivalent of running pinned 24x7. =20 > OSX may even have a temperature sensor/fan speed feedback loop ala =20 > the G5 to keep things under control. > I've spent a lot of time digging through the ADC documentation, but =20 I'll be damned if I can find anything about this. I have the Darwin =20 source checked out and will attempt a search through it, but I can't =20 say the code is organized in the most logical=86 manner. --lyndon =86 Why can't people just adopt the 44BSD layout? It's brilliantly =20 simple ... From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 15:17:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3C716A41F for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:17:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arved@arved.at) Received: from 21322530218.direct.eti.at (21322530218.direct.eti.at [213.225.30.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096DA43D49 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:17:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arved@arved.at) Received: from mchammer.arved.de (mchammer.arved.de [192.168.3.8]) by 21322530218.direct.eti.at (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6AFH3cK025306; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:17:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arved@arved.at) From: Tilman Linneweh To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org> References: <20050705163155.GA18493@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CB0C67.7030705@freebsd.org> <20050706011247.GA20055@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CB3243.2010804@freebsd.org> <20050706221854.GA23695@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CC6180.3090102@freebsd.org> <20050708123053.GA30311@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CE7984.5060306@freebsd.org> <20050708193114.GA31469@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org> <20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:17:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1121008623.1007.3.camel@mchammer.arved.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Mac Mini and Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:17:12 -0000 On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 15:43 +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > > In addition, though /boot/kernel/sound.ko exists, kldload > > sound gives the following: > > > > kldload: can't load sound: No such file or directory > > > > while the console shows: > > > > link_elf: symbol isa_dmastart undefined > > What's happening there is that the PCM module (incorrectly) has a > dependency on ISA. Tilman found this also: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20050426145734.GC2894 > > The ISA symbols aren't in the kernel, failing the link, and resulting > in the slightly obtuse error message from kldload. marius committed something to the sound modules Makefile yesterday to fix generation of the opt_isa.h file, to make it work on sparc64, this probably just needs an || ppc. -- Tilman Linneweh From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 23:27:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F98A16A41C; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:27:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD2C43D46; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:27:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j6ANRex4001793; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:27:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9F1F43A3-AD10-41CC-BD11-EF912D232D6B@orthanc.ca> References: <42CEF70A.2060605@freebsd.org> <20050709000616.22155977.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20050708230454.GA4742@dragon.NUXI.org> <42CF1B91.2090902@freebsd.org> <9F1F43A3-AD10-41CC-BD11-EF912D232D6B@orthanc.ca> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:27:39 -0400 To: Lyndon Nerenberg , Peter Grehan From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.3 Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Duty-cycle on mini's (was Re: Compiler patches ...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:27:44 -0000 At 1:00 AM -0700 7/10/05, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >>>Are they really designed to run at full bore at the time? >> >>You'd hope so, and that the fans blowing full speed would allow >>this to be the case. I've not had this happen on mine, so perhaps >>it's a ventilation issue ? > >I can't speak to "designed" for flat-out operation, but my mini >runs 24x7 without complaint. The background for some of this discussion is that my Mac-mini died after running FreeBSD for about five months. During that time, the machine was up 24x7 except for a few days in February and March. I'll guess that 98% of the time that it was running, it was running FreeBSD/PPC. The other 2% was running MacOS 10. The symptom I saw was that the mini would start up okay, and then after some amount of time it acted like the hard disk had been disconnected. Needless to say, the machine couldn't do much after the hard disk disappeared. If I just-rebooted the machine at that point, then even open-firmware could not find the hard disk. If I powered it down and waited an hour or so, then it would boot up fine. Initially the problem only happened on FreeBSD/PPC, but within a week it was also happening quite regularly on MacOS 10. So, several people (including me) wonder if maybe FreeBSD was doing something wrong with the fans. Either running them too much, or not enough, or something else. Two important notes on this failure: 1) RPI has spells where the air-conditioning to offices in the computer center doesn't work well. At the time of the failure, my office had been between 80 and 85 Fahrenheit for a few days straight. (this is partially because I have eight computers, two UPS's, and a refrigerator in here...). 2) When I bought it in to be fixed, the guy at the Apple store said he had seen a few similar failures -- and none of those were running FreeBSD. But he hadn't seen all *that* many failures. I had the impression they had seen between five and ten. Whatever the problem was, Apple was able to fix it without replacing the hard drive or the motherboard. The mac-mini has been working fine for me since then. I have the vague feeling that the fans seem to run a bit more now than they used to, but I can't say that I was ever really paying all that much attention to them. So, I wouldn't read too much into the failure of this one Mac-mini, but it would be interesting to hear if anyone else has a similar problem. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 03:14:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B19E16A41C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 03:14:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D695343D49 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 03:14:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 50437 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2005 03:14:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) (seanmwelch@66.41.102.215 with plain) by smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2005 03:14:25 -0000 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6B3CXKQ040446; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:12:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (from welchsm@localhost) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6B3CXGN040445; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:12:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:12:32 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050711031232.GB40236@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini and Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 03:14:27 -0000 --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:56:00AM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > I think you have to keep the non ifdef'd lines of the form > > vgaHWSave(pScrn, &hwp->SavedReg, VGA_SR_ALL); > > ... since that was the issue when VTY switching. I'm somewhat confused on this point -- looking through the diffs for this line I see that it only appears replacing this line: vgaHWRestore(pScrn, &hwp->SavedReg, VGA_SR_MODE | VGA_SR_FONTS ); which in every case is in the else statement of an #if defined(__powerpc__) in the code. Are you sure these make a difference on ppc? Assuming they don't I've hacked out a patch that combines everything and sections off portions just for ppc (check out the attachment for a drop-in replacement of the port's files/patch-radeon_driver.c). Also an interesting observation relating to Xorg resolutions -- it seems that ofw is remembering monitor modes set in OS X. In other words, I set my monitor to 1600x1200 and when I reboot the ofw console is at a similar resolution. FreeBSD's console takes what looks to be the same resolution and Xorg only seems to want to work at that resolution. I switched monitors and got it to run at 1280x1024 and 640x480. I brought it back and the max I could run on the first monitor was 640x480 (320x240 also worked) UNTIL I rebooted back into OS X, set it to the high resolution and booted back. The result was that I only got the 1600x1200 resolution again. Sean --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="r.diff" *** programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_driver.c.orig Thu Dec 16 18:13:18 2004 --- programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_driver.c Sun Jul 10 22:04:22 2005 *************** *** 164,170 **** OPTION_SUBPIXEL_ORDER, #endif OPTION_SHOWCACHE, ! OPTION_DYNAMIC_CLOCKS } RADEONOpts; static const OptionInfoRec RADEONOptions[] = { --- 164,173 ---- OPTION_SUBPIXEL_ORDER, #endif OPTION_SHOWCACHE, ! OPTION_DYNAMIC_CLOCKS, ! #ifdef __powerpc__ ! OPTION_IBOOKHACKS ! #endif } RADEONOpts; static const OptionInfoRec RADEONOptions[] = { *************** *** 209,214 **** --- 212,220 ---- #endif { OPTION_SHOWCACHE, "ShowCache", OPTV_BOOLEAN, {0}, FALSE }, { OPTION_DYNAMIC_CLOCKS, "DynamicClocks", OPTV_BOOLEAN, {0}, FALSE }, + #ifdef __powerpc__ + { OPTION_IBOOKHACKS, "iBookHacks", OPTV_BOOLEAN, {0}, FALSE }, + #endif { -1, NULL, OPTV_NONE, {0}, FALSE } }; *************** *** 2284,2289 **** --- 2290,2296 ---- case PCI_CHIP_RV370_5464: info->IsMobility = TRUE; case PCI_CHIP_RV370_5B60: + case PCI_CHIP_RV370_5B62: case PCI_CHIP_RV370_5B64: case PCI_CHIP_RV370_5B65: info->ChipFamily = CHIP_FAMILY_RV380; *************** *** 5276,5281 **** --- 5283,5296 ---- RADEONInfoPtr info = RADEONPTR(pScrn); unsigned char *RADEONMMIO = info->MMIO; + /* + * Never do it on Apple iBook to avoid a blank screen. + */ + #ifdef __powerpc__ + if (xf86ReturnOptValBool(info->Options, OPTION_IBOOKHACKS, FALSE)) + return; + #endif + if (info->IsMobility) { /* A temporal workaround for the occational blanking on certain laptop panels. This appears to related to the PLL divider registers (fail to lock?). *************** *** 6727,6736 **** --- 6742,6758 ---- } /* Define PLL registers for requested video mode */ + #if defined(__powerpc__) + static void RADEONInitPLLRegisters(RADEONSavePtr save, RADEONInfoPtr info, + #else static void RADEONInitPLLRegisters(RADEONSavePtr save, RADEONPLLPtr pll, + #endif double dot_clock) { unsigned long freq = dot_clock * 100; + #if defined(__powerpc__) + RADEONPLLPtr pll = &info->pll; + #endif struct { int divider; *************** *** 6780,6785 **** --- 6802,6816 ---- save->post_div)); save->ppll_ref_div = pll->reference_div; + + /* + * on iBooks the LCD pannel needs tweaked PLL timings + */ + #ifdef __powerpc__ + if (xf86ReturnOptValBool(info->Options, OPTION_IBOOKHACKS, FALSE)) + save->ppll_div_3 = 0x000600ad; + else + #endif save->ppll_div_3 = (save->feedback_div | (post_div->bitvalue << 16)); save->htotal_cntl = 0; } *************** *** 6921,6927 **** --- 6952,6962 ---- return FALSE; dot_clock = (((RADEONMergedDisplayModePtr)mode->Private)->CRT1)->Clock / 1000.0; if (dot_clock) { + #if defined(__powerpc__) + RADEONInitPLLRegisters(save, info, dot_clock); + #else RADEONInitPLLRegisters(save, &info->pll, dot_clock); + #endif } else { save->ppll_ref_div = info->SavedReg.ppll_ref_div; save->ppll_div_3 = info->SavedReg.ppll_div_3; *************** *** 6942,6948 **** --- 6977,6987 ---- save->htotal_cntl = 0; } else + #if defined(__powerpc__) + RADEONInitPLLRegisters(save, info, dot_clock); + #else RADEONInitPLLRegisters(save, &info->pll, dot_clock); + #endif } else { save->ppll_ref_div = info->SavedReg.ppll_ref_div; save->ppll_div_3 = info->SavedReg.ppll_div_3; *************** *** 7159,7165 **** RADEONDoAdjustFrame(pScrn, x, y, FALSE); } - RADEONSetFBLocation (pScrn); #ifdef XF86DRI if (info->CPStarted) DRIUnlock(pScrn->pScreen); #endif --- 7198,7203 ---- --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 16:25:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8975B16A41C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:25:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45F6743D45 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:25:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 79088 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2005 16:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) (seanmwelch@66.41.102.215 with plain) by smtp011.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2005 16:25:25 -0000 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6BGNUah042882; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:23:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (from welchsm@localhost) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6BGNTux042881; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:23:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:23:28 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050711162328.GA42843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Mac mini and freezes X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:25:26 -0000 I just compiled and tested net/vnc on the mini (works great with no tweaks by the way) and then did a make clean in the port. (I'm doing this remotely.) At that point the box seemed to become non-responsive. I thought it had crashed but had hit a few keys and noticed later that they came up very belatedly. The box is still running but not responding to pings. A bit later it seems to have come out of its lethargy, but when I check top I see this: last pid: 14262; load averages: 3.14, 2.42, 1.39 up 0+14:38:31 11:15:10 46 processes: 5 running, 41 sleeping Mem: 8932K Active, 13M Inact, 24M Wired, 7348K Cache, 34M Buf, 164M Free Swap: 492M Total, 17M Used, 475M Free, 3% Inuse PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND 14261 root 1 115 0 1612K 100K RUN 0:04 35.09% cron 14257 root 1 115 0 1612K 100K RUN 1:23 28.22% cron 13534 root 1 115 0 1612K 100K RUN 2:09 28.17% cron 14254 root 1 115 0 1612K 100K RUN 1:44 28.17% cron 14262 welchsm 1 96 0 2732K 1292K RUN 0:00 1.00% top 526 welchsm 1 96 0 48704K 748K select 0:30 0.00% Xorg 223 root 1 96 0 1436K 16K select 0:19 0.00% moused 529 welchsm 1 96 0 7748K 3580K select 0:12 0.00% xterm-static 533 welchsm 1 96 0 7356K 3188K select 0:10 0.00% xterm-static 532 welchsm 1 96 0 8408K 4200K select 0:10 0.00% xterm-static 584 welchsm 1 96 0 5256K 16K select 0:07 0.00% slogin 2662 welchsm 1 96 0 8044K 536K select 0:03 0.00% sshd 391 root 1 96 0 4184K 380K select 0:02 0.00% sendmail 531 welchsm 1 96 0 7556K 340K select 0:01 0.00% xclock 530 welchsm 1 96 0 4248K 16K select 0:01 0.00% twm And now (as I was typing this) it has aparently crashed completely (ssh session terminated and no ping response). What is with the cron jobs? A ps listing showed them as "cron -s" -- any ideas what is going on here? I'm guessing this is what was happening in those cases where the box seemed to freeze but didn't drop to the debugger... Sean From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 17:20:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBEB16A41C; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F80043D5C; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:20:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6CHKf1X046711; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j6CHKea9046710; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:20:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:20:40 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andreas Tobler Message-ID: <20050712172040.GB46490@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <42CEF70A.2060605@freebsd.org> <42CEF8C3.2090506@pop.agri.ch> <42CEFA18.6060305@freebsd.org> <20050708230538.GB4742@dragon.NUXI.org> <42CF798F.1030406@pop.agri.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CF798F.1030406@pop.agri.ch> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Peter Grehan , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler patches no longer required in -CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:20:43 -0000 On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 09:15:27AM +0200, Andreas Tobler wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > >On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 08:11:36AM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > > > >>Hi Andreas, > >> > >> > >>>does anyone take responsibility to make this fix upstream (fsf-gcc, 3.4, > >>>4.0.x, 4.1)? > >> > >>Volunteering ? :) :) > >> > >>I don't know if it's exactly the right fix: probably a tad expedient > >>to get it into 6-RELEASE. > >> > >>David - what do you think ? Fine to go into gcc mainline ? > > > > > >As-is, no. But until we have a usble reference machine there isn't much > >we can do about it. > > Ok. But what do you mean with a 'usable' reference machine? I don't have a dependable FreeBSD/PowerPC machine to debug stuff on. We still don't have a PowerPC reference machine in the FreeBSD.org cluster. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 17:43:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7CA16A41C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:43:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcoombs@gwi.net) Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643F943D46 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:43:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcoombs@gwi.net) Received: from failure (murdoc.gwi.net [207.5.142.8]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j6CHhKj9099293 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:43:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jcoombs@gwi.net) Message-ID: <013401c58709$3172f500$1700a8c0@failure> From: "Joshua Coombs" To: References: <42CEF70A.2060605@freebsd.org> <42CEF8C3.2090506@pop.agri.ch><42CEFA18.6060305@freebsd.org><20050708230538.GB4742@dragon.NUXI.org><42CF798F.1030406@pop.agri.ch> <20050712172040.GB46490@dragon.NUXI.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:43:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: refrence machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:43:22 -0000 If there is interest, I can start trying to scrounge up enough parts to make a 'franken-mac' to put into the cluster. I've built one in the past, so I'm comfortable doing so again, and should be able to do so for far cheaper than a traditional system. I doubt I can beat a mac mini for price/perf however. Do cluster machines have to be rack mount? What kind of minimum specs are required? Joshua Coombs > I don't have a dependable FreeBSD/PowerPC machine to debug stuff on. > We still don't have a PowerPC reference machine in the FreeBSD.org > cluster. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 17:58:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC52516A41C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:58:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from anduin.net (anduin.net [212.12.46.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D30B43D45 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:58:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from ranger.anduin.net ([81.0.162.52] helo=[192.168.1.10]) by anduin.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DsP1U-0001uz-DG; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:58:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <013401c58709$3172f500$1700a8c0@failure> References: <42CEF70A.2060605@freebsd.org> <42CEF8C3.2090506@pop.agri.ch><42CEFA18.6060305@freebsd.org><20050708230538.GB4742@dragon.NUXI.org><42CF798F.1030406@pop.agri.ch> <20050712172040.GB46490@dragon.NUXI.org> <013401c58709$3172f500$1700a8c0@failure> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:58:19 +0200 To: "Joshua Coombs" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: refrence machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:58:26 -0000 On Jul 12, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Joshua Coombs wrote: > If there is interest, I can start trying to scrounge up enough > parts to make a 'franken-mac' to put into the cluster. I've built > one in the past, so I'm comfortable doing so again, and should be > able to do so for far cheaper than a traditional system. I doubt I > can beat a mac mini for price/perf however. > > Do cluster machines have to be rack mount? What kind of minimum > specs are required? Hoi list, I'd be willing to help fund such an effort. Keep me in the loop. If that's of any interest, I also have considerable hosting resources available, both for co-lo, access to existing FreeBSD systems, and jails. /Eirik > > Joshua Coombs > > >> I don't have a dependable FreeBSD/PowerPC machine to debug stuff on. >> We still don't have a PowerPC reference machine in the FreeBSD.org >> cluster. >> >> -- >> -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 23:13:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AA216A41C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:13:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B91F43D5E for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:13:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 18054 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2005 23:13:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) (seanmwelch@66.41.102.215 with plain) by smtp015.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2005 23:13:43 -0000 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6CNBese048198; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:11:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (from welchsm@localhost) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6CNBeRN048197; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:11:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:11:39 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050712231139.GA48156@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> References: <20050706011247.GA20055@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CB3243.2010804@freebsd.org> <20050706221854.GA23695@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CC6180.3090102@freebsd.org> <20050708123053.GA30311@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CE7984.5060306@freebsd.org> <20050708193114.GA31469@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org> <20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:13:45 -0000 On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 03:43:09PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > >I seem able to freeze the system fairly regularly -- it may just be > >starting and restarting X but I've not yet been able to isolate the > >cause. (X won't start every time -- it doesn't always figure out that > >some modes can run even though I've hardcoded some into the xorg.conf) > >Seems to drop to the debugger about once every 4 times or so. > > > >I'm delighted with the progress of the ppc port -- let me know if > >there is anything else I can test specifically. > > I'm always interested in a backtrace if you can get one from the > debugger, or even the routine where the panic/fatal trap occurs. > Other than that, I'd say just run as much as you can and report how it > goes, good bad or otherwise. > > Thanks for having the patience to jump through the Xorg hoops ! Hey, absolutely! I'm enjoying myself. :-) Well, I've managed to get it to die in front of me this time. You'll have to tell me how to get it do do a backtrace -- I'm leaving it at the debugger prompt expressly for that purpose. Transcribed by hand below is what I see leading up to the crash. I was on a fresh boot trying to do a make clean under x11-wm/xfce4. I had built it on the previous boot and froze it remotely when I tried to do a make clean (xfce4 works great -- no changes to the port). Here is what I see (first two sets repeated multiple times, xxxxx represents various lba, ad0s5 is root): ad0: timeout waiting to issue command ad0: error issueing WRITE_MUL command ad0: timeout waiting to issue command ad0: error issueing WRITE_MUL command ad0: timeout waiting to issue command ad0: error issueing WRITE_MUL command ad0: timeout waiting to issue command ad0: error issueing WRITE_MUL command swap_pager: I/O error - pageout failed: blkno xxxxx, size 65536, error 5 swap_pager: I/O error - pageout failed: blkno xxxxx, size 65536, error 5 swap_pager: I/O error - pageout failed: blkno xxxxx, size 65536, error 5 swap_pager: I/O error - pageout failed: blkno xxxxx, size 65536, error 5 g_vfs_done():ad0s5[WRITE(offset=6160384, length=2048)]error = 5 init died (signal 4, exit 0) panic: Going nowhere without my init! KDB: enter: panic [thread pid 1 tid 100006 ] Stopped at 0x25b5f8: lwz r11, r1, 0x0 db> What next? Can I even do a dump if the ata driver is the culprit? Sean From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 23:49:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC2616A41C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C54343D46 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:49:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6CNnK7v002164; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:49:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D45705.5070807@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:49:25 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org References: <20050706011247.GA20055@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CB3243.2010804@freebsd.org> <20050706221854.GA23695@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CC6180.3090102@freebsd.org> <20050708123053.GA30311@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CE7984.5060306@freebsd.org> <20050708193114.GA31469@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org> <20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org> <20050712231139.GA48156@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> In-Reply-To: <20050712231139.GA48156@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:49:26 -0000 Hi Sean, > ad0: timeout waiting to issue command > ad0: error issueing WRITE_MUL command > ad0: timeout waiting to issue command > ad0: error issueing WRITE_MUL command > ad0: timeout waiting to issue command > ad0: error issueing WRITE_MUL command > ad0: timeout waiting to issue command > ad0: error issueing WRITE_MUL command > swap_pager: I/O error - pageout failed: blkno xxxxx, size 65536, error 5 > swap_pager: I/O error - pageout failed: blkno xxxxx, size 65536, error 5 > swap_pager: I/O error - pageout failed: blkno xxxxx, size 65536, error 5 > swap_pager: I/O error - pageout failed: blkno xxxxx, size 65536, error 5 > g_vfs_done():ad0s5[WRITE(offset=6160384, length=2048)]error = 5 > init died (signal 4, exit 0) > panic: Going nowhere without my init! > KDB: enter: panic > [thread pid 1 tid 100006 ] > Stopped at 0x25b5f8: lwz r11, r1, 0x0 > db> > > What next? Can I even do a dump if the ata driver is the culprit? 'trace' will give the backtrace, but I'm guessing what has happened is that part of init was being swapped out and failed, killing init, and hitting the panic in the exit syscall where it detects if init is the process exiting. No kernel dumps yet. 'man ddb' when the system is running normally will give a list of commands that can be issued to the debugger, as well as '?' at the prompt itself. About the only advice I can give is see if you can reproduce this each time with the xfce package build. That then allows some more debug to be put in. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 01:04:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E392116A41C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A997043D45 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 4121 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2005 01:04:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) (seanmwelch@66.41.102.215 with plain) by smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 2005 01:04:17 -0000 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6D12Ebj048499; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:02:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (from welchsm@localhost) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6D12DZX048498; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:02:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:02:13 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050713010213.GB48303@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:04:19 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 09:49:25AM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > 'trace' will give the backtrace, but I'm guessing what has happened is > that part of init was being swapped out and failed, killing init, and > hitting the panic in the exit syscall where it detects if init is the > process exiting. Here you go: db> trace Tracing pid 1 tid 100006 td 0xf60e600 0xd7c4f720: at panic+0x134 0xd7c4f7c0: at exit1+0xcc 0xd7c4f840: at sigexit+0x120 0xd7c4f860: at sendsig+0x2e0 0xd7c4fcf0: at trapsignal+0x1e8 0xd7c4fd60: at trap+0x288 0xd7c4fda0: at powerpc_interrupt+0xc0 0xd7c4fdd0: user ISI trap by 0x7fffefd4: srr1=0x4000d032 r1=0x7fffd9b0 cr=0x24000042 xer=0x20000000 ctr=0x1 db> > No kernel dumps yet. 'man ddb' when the system is running normally > will give a list of commands that can be issued to the debugger, as well > as '?' at the prompt itself. No dumps? I did take a look at the man page on my laptop but still didn't know how to proceed... > About the only advice I can give is see if you can reproduce this each > time with the xfce package build. That then allows some more debug to be > put in. After fsck'ing the disk I immediately tried another make clean and got the same result. db> trace Tracing pid 0 tid 0 td 0x468830 0x00431e30: at panic+0x134 0x00431ed0: at vm_thread_swapin+0x118 0x00431fa0: at faultin+0xe4 0x00431fc0: at scheduler+0x2ec 0x00431fe0: at mi_startup+0x130 0x00432000: at __start+0x74 db> Next step? Sean From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 11:37:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B41216A41C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:37:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A8AC43D46 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:37:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 65633 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2005 11:37:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) (seanmwelch@66.41.102.215 with plain) by smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 2005 11:37:15 -0000 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6DBZ9lu050363; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:35:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (from welchsm@localhost) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6DBZ9um050362; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:35:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:35:09 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050713113508.GA50347@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> References: <20050708123053.GA30311@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CE7984.5060306@freebsd.org> <20050708193114.GA31469@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org> <20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org> <20050712231139.GA48156@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42D45705.5070807@freebsd.org> <20050713010116.GA48303@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42D4F559.3050403@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D4F559.3050403@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:37:17 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 09:04:57PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > This panic is when the kernel has failed the i/o operation to swap > back in the kernel stack pages for a process. Were there any messages on > the console prior to this, such as the ATA errors from the previous panic ? Yes -- exactly the same type. Is this by any chance because I chose to set up swap? Sean From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 12:00:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCA716A41C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:00:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcoombs@gwi.net) Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EA743D45 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:00:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcoombs@gwi.net) Received: from failure (murdoc.gwi.net [207.5.142.8]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j6DC0BGG084499; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:00:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jcoombs@gwi.net) Message-ID: <020601c587a2$6c7cb110$1700a8c0@failure> From: "Joshua Coombs" To: References: <20050708123053.GA30311@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42CE7984.5060306@freebsd.org><20050708193114.GA31469@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org><20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org><20050712231139.GA48156@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42D45705.5070807@freebsd.org><20050713010116.GA48303@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42D4F559.3050403@freebsd.org> <20050713113508.GA50347@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:00:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:00:16 -0000 > Yes -- exactly the same type. Is this by any chance because I chose > to set up swap? > > Sean Easy enough theory to test, disable swap in fstab, reboot, and see if you can reproduce. Joshua Coombs From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 12:41:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60FA16A41C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:41:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED5E43D53 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:41:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6DCfP7v004340; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:41:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D50BF9.5030600@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:41:29 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Coombs References: <20050708123053.GA30311@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42CE7984.5060306@freebsd.org><20050708193114.GA31469@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42CEF673.1020707@freebsd.org><20050710045504.GA36843@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42D0B56D.3050708@freebsd.org><20050712231139.GA48156@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42D45705.5070807@freebsd.org><20050713010116.GA48303@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net><42D4F559.3050403@freebsd.org> <20050713113508.GA50347@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <020601c587a2$6c7cb110$1700a8c0@failure> In-Reply-To: <020601c587a2$6c7cb110$1700a8c0@failure> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:41:31 -0000 Joshua Coombs wrote: >> Yes -- exactly the same type. Is this by any chance because I chose >> to set up swap? .. > > > Easy enough theory to test, disable swap in fstab, reboot, and see if > you can reproduce. Since swap is being hit, running without swap will result in coredumps of whatever gets kicked out of memory at the time. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 12:46:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812DC16A41C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:46:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B148643D4C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:46:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 75720 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2005 12:46:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) (seanmwelch@66.41.102.215 with plain) by smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 2005 12:46:35 -0000 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6DCiTQ4050631; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:44:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (from welchsm@localhost) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6DCiSR1050630; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:44:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:44:28 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050713124428.GA50605@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> References: <20050713113508.GA50347@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <020601c587a2$6c7cb110$1700a8c0@failure> <42D50BF9.5030600@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D50BF9.5030600@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:46:37 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:41:29PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > Joshua Coombs wrote: > >>Yes -- exactly the same type. Is this by any chance because I chose > >>to set up swap? > .. > > > > > >Easy enough theory to test, disable swap in fstab, reboot, and see if > >you can reproduce. > > Since swap is being hit, running without swap will result in coredumps > of whatever gets kicked out of memory at the time. What would you suggest instead then? Sean From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 12:50:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD9F16A41C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:50:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7BF43D4C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:50:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6DCo97v004354; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:50:09 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D50E05.6010701@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:50:13 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org References: <20050713113508.GA50347@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <020601c587a2$6c7cb110$1700a8c0@failure> <42D50BF9.5030600@freebsd.org> <20050713124428.GA50605@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> In-Reply-To: <20050713124428.GA50605@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:50:14 -0000 >> Since swap is being hit, running without swap will result in coredumps >>of whatever gets kicked out of memory at the time. > > What would you suggest instead then? Until I find the bug and fix it, more RAM :( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 14:30:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D5016A41C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:30:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E880943D46 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:30:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 58958 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2005 14:30:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net) (seanmwelch@66.41.102.215 with plain) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 2005 14:30:31 -0000 Received: from NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6DESO7S050897; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:28:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Received: (from welchsm@localhost) by NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6DESNRC050896; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:28:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seanmwelch@yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:28:23 -0500 From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050713142823.GA50884@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> References: <20050713113508.GA50347@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <020601c587a2$6c7cb110$1700a8c0@failure> <42D50BF9.5030600@freebsd.org> <20050713124428.GA50605@NitroPhys.welchsmnet.net> <42D50E05.6010701@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D50E05.6010701@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac Mini panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:30:32 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:50:13PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > Until I find the bug and fix it, more RAM :( Unfortunately that isn't currently an option. If you can think of something you'd like me to look at to help find the bug I'd love to help -- and of course I'll do my best to help test any fixes you want to try. Thanks for your quick responses! 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From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 06:38:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF56616A41C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:38:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alaorbarroso@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6197943D46 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:38:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alaorbarroso@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so687097rnf for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:38:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=S0ALR8acMtf/isD45Kwoe0OFoQt//rrpCBjSoFaW1CFNG2A/sUSs5It5xpzUGs0UmtT1g/GHwhLz3fZSAvQysXlCItAWT/frs2BnPuQ3i2Pd7o8SfVEwAbWj65OdcugHKCl0KkLWpNWcEsmJsuo0awFzKaDBbCx0pYAFGjih8t4= Received: by 10.38.88.5 with SMTP id l5mr2683108rnb; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.54 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:38:36 -0300 From: Alaor Barroso To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Invalid memory access at X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alaor Barroso List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:38:37 -0000 Hello people, I'm trying to boot freeBSD in a PowerMac G4, but after I holding "c", I got the OpenFirmware screen saying that occurred a invalid memory acces at "R$0..something...."... I have no idea of what I can do. In some Linux Foruns I've seen that some Kernels of Linux can cause this message, and chanching the booting kernel the problem is solved. But in freeBSD? Help me plz guyz... []'s From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 06:42:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D12B16A41C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:42:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C130643D48 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:42:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6F6gb7v019232; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:42:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D75AE1.3090807@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:42:41 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alaor Barroso References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Invalid memory access at X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:42:40 -0000 > Hello people, I'm trying to boot freeBSD in a PowerMac G4, but after I > holding "c", I got the OpenFirmware screen saying that occurred a > invalid memory acces at "R$0..something...."... Try breaking to the OpenFirmware prompt by holding down cmd-option-o-f at boot-time and then issuing: 0 > boot cd:,\boot\loader cd:0 later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 21:15:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA76716A41C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:15:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alaorbarroso@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB7743D45 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:15:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alaorbarroso@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c51so15504rne for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:15:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=oPDmBINIi2fxNdWa4BNsY4us5aUBMNq6v8ZVkYrWAWBu8LLuN/wbZW94Pa53dn3yUiMoiS+RWLAqm83EmGdYSo4JQU9q7G6Mt9XwS69BcmFsRXMXnD93FGoSp4vMmY84eEwBlH6YHmwqOuXowTn9GvCuPw/jw4qmuLzPRae0sKs= Received: by 10.38.89.26 with SMTP id m26mr55107rnb; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.54 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:15:06 -0300 From: Alaor Barroso To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Boot stop at "KDB: current backend: ddb" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alaor Barroso List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:15:07 -0000 Hi people, I booted the freeBSD CD in a PowerMac G4 (radeon video card), and after the message saying to type ENTER the boot proccess start but after this two lines, the boot process freeze... KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB: current backend: ddb Help-me guyz.. I'm having very troubles with freeBSD ppc (the last was the "invalid memory access" like I posted in this list), but I really want to make it runs in my PPC machine. =3D{ []'s From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 00:43:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D4716A41C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:43:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D879F43D45 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:43:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6G0hP7v023733; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:43:26 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D85830.7070504@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:43:28 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alaor Barroso References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot stop at "KDB: current backend: ddb" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:43:28 -0000 Hi Alaor, > Hi people, I booted the freeBSD CD in a PowerMac G4 (radeon video > card), and after the message saying to type ENTER the boot proccess > start but after this two lines, the boot process freeze... > > KDB: debugger backends: ddb > KDB: current backend: ddb > > Help-me guyz.. I'm having very troubles with freeBSD ppc (the last was > the "invalid memory access" like I posted in this list), but I really > want to make it runs in my PPC machine. ={ Did you do anything different here to get beyond the previous "invalid memory access" ? Another thing to try is to escape to the FreeBSD loader prompt and then "boot -v" - this may give a better indication of how far the boot sequence goes before getting stuck. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 00:50:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6570B16A41C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:50:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA6A43D45 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:50:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6G0o37v023740 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:50:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D859BE.6060100@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:50:06 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD/ppc 6.0-BETA1 isos X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:50:05 -0000 Hi all, Not sure if y'all saw the announcement on the freebsd-hackers list: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?42D79676.6040606 Unfortunately, there are a couple of regressions in the BETA1 install iso from the last iso I put up, so I'd recommend giving this one a miss and waiting for the next beta build, unless you want to upgrade and are prepared for some of the annoyances. They are: - Filesystem info isn't written out correctly to /etc/fstab. The kernel will drop into the mountroot> prompt since the loader can't find the root filesystem. workaround: manually specify the root filesystem at the mountroot> prompt, and then edit /etc/fstab once the system has booted. - The ttys file should have the ttya/ttyb entries removed. There will be console message printed complaining that they can't be opened. workaround: manually edit /etc/ttys to remove said lines. - The OpenFirmware syscons code spits out some kernel printfs when going to multi-user "ofwfb_ioctl: uimplemented" workaround: none, these can be ignored. - sysinstall prints the GEM ethernet as workaround: none, can be ignored. These will be fixed in the next beta release. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 02:09:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258DA16A41C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:09:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alaorbarroso@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B039343D48 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:08:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alaorbarroso@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so853511rne for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:08:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RH79LAFQBYY09vJNZ0R1cWBd2NRa8ELKelVuxvYTLonim22nZ9YHOZ0aftoTPigtUfLEPOg0JahpeCtNWkdh4LV7SzrUJK6D53wu4rIObkGITaY4RlQjmRasZZuLGNUEMn4MNqF1g+NzeHUAnu2laS4lzGngrVtmDpcx5lxg3Ac= Received: by 10.38.11.44 with SMTP id 44mr150557rnk; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.54 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:08:59 -0300 From: Alaor Barroso To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42D85830.7070504@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Boot stop at "KDB: current backend: ddb" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alaor Barroso List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:09:00 -0000 From: Alaor Barroso Date: 15/07/2005 23:07 Subject: Re: Boot stop at "KDB: current backend: ddb" To: Peter Grehan Yes, I did, I forgot send my experience to this list. =3DP I entered Open Firmware and typed "mac-boot", and it send me to the Yellow Dog Linux boot prompt (I was using YDL), so I typed "C" and the boot process started normaly... But it stoped at the time that I'm showing now, near this two messages... How can I escape to the freeBSD loader prompt? I've tested the OpenBSD macppc and it booted normaly, but I think that I fucked up some important native MAC partitions, like Apple_Bootstrap partition and now I think that I nedd rebuild this with the MacOSX CDROM, will freeBSD need those partitions? *ps: Sorry my english, I'm brazilian.. Very thankz the attention, Peter. Cya. []'s 2005/7/15, Peter Grehan : > Hi Alaor, > > > Hi people, I booted the freeBSD CD in a PowerMac G4 (radeon video > > card), and after the message saying to type ENTER the boot proccess > > start but after this two lines, the boot process freeze... > > > > KDB: debugger backends: ddb > > KDB: current backend: ddb > > > > Help-me guyz.. I'm having very troubles with freeBSD ppc (the last was > > the "invalid memory access" like I posted in this list), but I really > > want to make it runs in my PPC machine. =3D{ > > Did you do anything different here to get beyond the previous "invalid > memory access" ? > > Another thing to try is to escape to the FreeBSD loader prompt and > then "boot -v" - this may give a better indication of how far the boot > sequence goes before getting stuck. > > later, > > Peter. > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 04:16:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B39E16A41C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 04:16:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DBC43D48 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 04:16:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.137] (CPE-2-137.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.137]) by liberty.onthenet.com.au (8.12.9 - 20030918/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6G4Gf7v024543; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:16:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42D88A2C.7020102@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:16:44 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alaor Barroso References: <42D85830.7070504@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot stop at "KDB: current backend: ddb" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 04:16:44 -0000 > Yes, I did, I forgot send my experience to this list. =P > > I entered Open Firmware and typed "mac-boot", and it send me to the > Yellow Dog Linux boot prompt (I was using YDL), so I typed "C" and the > boot process started normaly... But it stoped at the time that I'm > showing now, near this two messages... That's a bit strange: looks like yaboot was trying to load the FreeBSD kernel. > How can I escape to the freeBSD loader prompt? You'll want to boot the loader from the cd. It should load the kernel, and then give you a timeout period where you can hit the space bar to break into the loader instead of booting the kernel i.e. 0 > boot cd:,\boot\loader cd:0 Loading ELF Consoles: Open Firmware console FreeBSD/Open Firmware/PowerPC bootstrap loader, Revision 0.1 (root@macmini.ptree32.com.au, Wed Jul 13 13:54:48 UTC 2005) Memory: 655360KB Booted from: /pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/ata-3@20000/disk@0 Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /boot/kernel/kernel text=0x32fc18 data=0x3113c+0x94554 syms=[0x4+0x3be10+0x4+0x4a6d9] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel] in 7 seconds... Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help OK > I've tested the OpenBSD macppc and it booted normaly, but I think that > I fucked up some important native MAC partitions, like Apple_Bootstrap > partition and now I think that I nedd rebuild this with the MacOSX > CDROM, will freeBSD need those partitions? No, FreeBSD will install on *any* partition type, but you need to keep at least one HFS+ partition to install the loader onto so that OpenFirmware can read it in and boot it. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 11:52:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1618816A41C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:52:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from p.kraschinski@dime-net.com) Received: from rocoto.schulon.org (krzn10.uni-duisburg.de [134.91.6.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B0943D48 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:52:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from p.kraschinski@dime-net.com) Received: from localhost (krzn21.uni-duisburg.de [134.91.6.214]) by rocoto.schulon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645235E216 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rocoto.schulon.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rocoto [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11379-05 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:51:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.9.3.130] (p508C695A.dip.t-dialin.net [80.140.105.90]) by rocoto.schulon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26A15E205 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:51:41 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <30409C27-12C0-475C-A50C-5696C10A08CA@dime-net.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: Pierre Kraschinski Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:52:09 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) Subject: FreeBSD6.0BETA1 at IBOOK G4 - 12.1/512/60G/CMD/AP/D X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:52:16 -0000 hello, i have boot my ibook g4 from freebsd 6.0 beta1 cd but my keyboard dosen't work. anyone an idea? pierre From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 11:53:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E30D16A41C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:53:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from smtp.messaging.ch (exsmtp02.agrinet.ch [81.221.252.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0606643D4C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:53:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toa@pop.agri.ch) Received: from [192.168.225.5] ([217.162.113.214]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:53:50 +0200 Message-ID: <42D8F548.7090003@pop.agri.ch> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:53:44 +0200 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.5 (Macintosh/20050711) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Kraschinski References: <30409C27-12C0-475C-A50C-5696C10A08CA@dime-net.com> In-Reply-To: <30409C27-12C0-475C-A50C-5696C10A08CA@dime-net.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2005 11:53:50.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[08479F90:01C589FD] Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD6.0BETA1 at IBOOK G4 - 12.1/512/60G/CMD/AP/D X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:53:53 -0000 Pierre Kraschinski wrote: > hello, > > i have boot my ibook g4 from freebsd 6.0 beta1 cd but my keyboard > dosen't work. > > anyone an idea? You need an external USB kbd afair. (At least I have to use one on my albook). The internal kbd is not supported yet. Andreas From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 14:39:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4B216A41C; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4B943D46; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:39:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3E41B38E; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:39:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45119-08; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 80DF31B3D1; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Resent-From: regnauld@moof.catpipe.net Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:39:30 +0200 Resent-Message-ID: <20050716143930.GA45164@moof.catpipe.net> Resent-To: grehan@freebsd.org, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:34:42 +0200 From: Phil Regnauld To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20050716143442.GA3122@flow.eu.org> References: <42D859BE.6060100@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D859BE.6060100@freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at catpipe.net Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ppc 6.0-BETA1 isos X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:39:34 -0000 Peter Grehan (grehan) writes: > Hi all, > > Not sure if y'all saw the announcement on the freebsd-hackers list: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?42D79676.6040606 Hmm, I haven't found the ISO on any mirror site...