From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 23:54:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2D216A41F for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:54:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.onthenet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB2F43D46 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:54:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B305219FC41; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:54:45 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <435196C2.2090501@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:54:42 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Rosengart References: <20051015010107.GA88834@absinthe.tinho.net> <43505BDC.8060705@freebsd.org> <20051015165835.GA13681@absinthe.tinho.net> In-Reply-To: <20051015165835.GA13681@absinthe.tinho.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060504080201060008020107" Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sawtooth: no carrier on gem0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:54:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060504080201060008020107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ben, > I had to transcribe this by hand, I hope it's all correct. > > gem0: mem 0xf5200000-0xf53fffff irq 41 > at device 15.0 on pci3 > miibus0: on gem0 > brgphy0: on miibus0 > brgphy0: 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto Thanks for that. Looking at sys/dev/mii/brgphy.c, this shows it is a BCM5400 phy. Two things: - are you hooked up to a 10mb port ? As you can see from the list of supported speeds, this model doesn't handle 10mb/s. From Darwin source, it looks like Apple hooked up an additional BCM5201 phy to handle the 10mb case, but the multi-phy case isn't supported in FreeBSD. - I scanned back thru the NetBSD source and noticed that there was a reset case missing for the 5400. It's present only for the 5401 in the FreeBSD version, so this could be the culprit. If you install kernel source during the install, you should be able to re-build a kernel. I've attached a patch which may fix the 5400 reset case - would you be able to give it a try ? later, Peter. --------------060504080201060008020107 Content-Type: text/plain; name="brgphy.c.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="brgphy.c.diff" Index: sys/dev/mii/brgphy.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/mii/brgphy.c,v retrieving revision 1.35 diff -u -r1.35 brgphy.c --- sys/dev/mii/brgphy.c 30 Sep 2005 19:39:27 -0000 1.35 +++ sys/dev/mii/brgphy.c 15 Oct 2005 23:50:32 -0000 @@ -388,6 +388,7 @@ sc->mii_media_status != mii->mii_media_status || cmd == MII_MEDIACHG) { switch (brgphy_mii_model) { + case MII_MODEL_xxBROADCOM_BCM5400: case MII_MODEL_xxBROADCOM_BCM5401: bcm5401_load_dspcode(sc); break; @@ -617,6 +618,7 @@ mii_phy_reset(sc); switch (brgphy_mii_model) { + case MII_MODEL_xxBROADCOM_BCM5400: case MII_MODEL_xxBROADCOM_BCM5401: bcm5401_load_dspcode(sc); break; --------------060504080201060008020107-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 23:58:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F1E16A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:58:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: from absinthe.tinho.net (absinthe.tinho.net [166.84.5.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA7243D46; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:58:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: by absinthe.tinho.net (Postfix, from userid 103) id E67371BF94A; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:58:31 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20051015235831.GA28514@absinthe.tinho.net> References: <20051015010107.GA88834@absinthe.tinho.net> <43505BDC.8060705@freebsd.org> <20051015165835.GA13681@absinthe.tinho.net> <435196C2.2090501@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <435196C2.2090501@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sawtooth: no carrier on gem0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:58:32 -0000 On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 09:54:42AM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > > - are you hooked up to a 10mb port ? As you can see from the list of > supported speeds, this model doesn't handle 10mb/s. No, it's either 100 or 10/100, I'm not sure. (It's the built-in switch on a Cisco 831.) > If you install kernel source during the install, you should be able to > re-build a kernel. I've attached a patch which may fix the 5400 reset > case - would you be able to give it a try ? Yes, I will try this. Thanks, -- Ben Rosengart ben@narcissus.net "Young people should be seen and not heard, because they're good-looking but not too bright. We're pretty bright now, but we're ugly." -- Grace Slick on the '60s youth movement From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 01:19:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E6E16A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:19:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: from absinthe.tinho.net (absinthe.tinho.net [166.84.5.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D4743D46; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:19:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: by absinthe.tinho.net (Postfix, from userid 103) id 530ED1BF94A; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:19:31 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20051016011931.GA31458@absinthe.tinho.net> References: <20051015010107.GA88834@absinthe.tinho.net> <43505BDC.8060705@freebsd.org> <20051015165835.GA13681@absinthe.tinho.net> <435196C2.2090501@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <435196C2.2090501@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sawtooth: no carrier on gem0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:19:32 -0000 On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 09:54:42AM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > > If you install kernel source during the install, you should be able to > re-build a kernel. I've attached a patch which may fix the 5400 reset > case - would you be able to give it a try ? It works. My freebsd-ppc box is now on the network. Bravo. Thanks, -- Ben Rosengart ben@narcissus.net "Young people should be seen and not heard, because they're good-looking but not too bright. We're pretty bright now, but we're ugly." -- Grace Slick on the '60s youth movement From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 01:29:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E1016A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:29:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: from absinthe.tinho.net (absinthe.tinho.net [166.84.5.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB53643D48 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:29:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: by absinthe.tinho.net (Postfix, from userid 103) id 6E40D1BF94A; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:29:33 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:29:34 -0000 Hi folks, I have two questions about freebsd-ppc; they probably both are FAQs. 1. Is SMP supported on freebsd-ppc? If so, do I just have to build a new kernel to make use of it, like on i386? (Is it safe to create a smaller kernel config file by copying GENERIC, and going through deleting unused drivers, as I am used to doing on i386?) 2. What can I put in my NVRAM settings to make the system boot to FreeBSD? As it is, I have auto-boot?=false, and when the OF prompt comes up, I type "boot hd:loader hd:6". hd:6 is an HFS+ filesystem which contains just one file, "loader". This is not too bad, but it'd be pretty cool if I could autoboot to FreeBSD. Bonus points if there's a menu along the way that lets me select Mac OS X, which lives on the second HDD. I played around with things like setting boot-command=boot and boot-args="hd:loader hd:6", but all I ever got was a boot to Mac OS X or to a blank screen. I'll be happy to add any useful answers I receive to the wiki, if I can. Thanks, -- Ben Rosengart ben@narcissus.net "Young people should be seen and not heard, because they're good-looking but not too bright. We're pretty bright now, but we're ugly." -- Grace Slick on the '60s youth movement From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 02:05:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AEF16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:05:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: from absinthe.tinho.net (absinthe.tinho.net [166.84.5.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9042943D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:05:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: by absinthe.tinho.net (Postfix, from userid 103) id 21BB61BF94A; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:05:42 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051016020542.GA32826@absinthe.tinho.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: no cvsup(8)?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:05:42 -0000 Hi folks, I'm trying to build cvsup from ports, but the port makefile claims cvsup doesn't build for ppc. Am I supposed to use cvs instead? Is there any doc on how to configure it for this purpose? (Oh, and what happened to /etc/defaults/make.conf? Is that gone in FreeBSD 6?) Thanks, -- Ben Rosengart ben@narcissus.net "Young people should be seen and not heard, because they're good-looking but not too bright. We're pretty bright now, but we're ugly." -- Grace Slick on the '60s youth movement From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 02:25:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5DE16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:25:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.onthenet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDE543D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:25:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D929E19FB2C; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:25:18 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4351BA0B.4080309@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:25:15 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Rosengart References: <20051015010107.GA88834@absinthe.tinho.net> <43505BDC.8060705@freebsd.org> <20051015165835.GA13681@absinthe.tinho.net> <435196C2.2090501@freebsd.org> <20051016011931.GA31458@absinthe.tinho.net> In-Reply-To: <20051016011931.GA31458@absinthe.tinho.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sawtooth: no carrier on gem0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:25:26 -0000 > It works. My freebsd-ppc box is now on the network. I'll commit the fix to -HEAD, it might be too late for 6.0 though. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 02:33:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCCE16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:33:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.onthenet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA7643D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BFE19FA89; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:33:27 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:33:23 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Rosengart References: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> In-Reply-To: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:33:28 -0000 Hi Ben, > 1. Is SMP supported on freebsd-ppc? Nope :( It may not be too difficult. The ppc port is mostly based on the sparc64 port so all the synchronization primitives are there. I personally don't have any MP h/w. > 2. What can I put in my NVRAM settings to make the system boot to > FreeBSD? As it is, I have auto-boot?=false, and when > the OF prompt comes up, I type "boot hd:loader hd:6". hd:6 is an > HFS+ filesystem which contains just one file, "loader". This is > not too bad, but it'd be pretty cool if I could autoboot to FreeBSD. > Bonus points if there's a menu along the way that lets me select > Mac OS X, which lives on the second HDD. I played around with > things like setting boot-command=boot and boot-args="hd:loader hd:6", > but all I ever got was a boot to Mac OS X or to a blank screen. There's been some discussion and experimentation with this. Have a look at Dario Freni's blog, 'FreeBSD on the Mac Mini', and how he created a CHRP boot script. http://blog.freesbie.org/blogs/ and a from the freebsd-ppc archives: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2005-January/000830.html later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 02:41:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0334D16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:41:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9971943D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:41:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDCD75902B; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:41:48 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4351BDE9.1030100@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:41:45 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Rosengart References: <20051016020542.GA32826@absinthe.tinho.net> In-Reply-To: <20051016020542.GA32826@absinthe.tinho.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no cvsup(8)?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:41:51 -0000 Hi Ben, > I'm trying to build cvsup from ports, but the port makefile claims > cvsup doesn't build for ppc. Am I supposed to use cvs instead? Is > there any doc on how to configure it for this purpose? Cvsup requires a Modula-3 runtime, which isn't available for ppc at this time. And may never be, I suspect it's not a simple task to get working. In the meantime, you might want to give csup a try: http://mu.org/~mux/csup.html It's been reported to work on FreeBSD/ppc. > (Oh, and what happened to /etc/defaults/make.conf? Is that gone in > FreeBSD 6?) I think it should be /etc/make.conf, but I just checked and saw that it hasn't been copied there in the ppc release. However, it can be copied from /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 20:18:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9E916A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:18:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1829343D58 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:17:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IOG00F3VZ74YX10@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:21:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.203.92.30]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0IOG001YJZ6ZNTC0@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:20:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:17:57 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH In-reply-to: <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-id: <20051016221757.25173ba2.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:18:00 -0000 On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:33:23 +1000 Peter Grehan wrote: > There's been some discussion and experimentation with this. Have a > look at Dario Freni's blog, 'FreeBSD on the Mac Mini', and how he > created a CHRP boot script. > > http://blog.freesbie.org/blogs/ > > and a from the freebsd-ppc archives: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2005-January/000830.html This works good enough. What would be even better, would be a program that, when launched from OS X, would restart the machine and boot straight into FreeBSD. so, any ideas on how to do that? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 21:40:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BEC16A421 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:40:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C2543D68 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:40:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02B0759684; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:40:49 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4352C8E1.5090907@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:40:49 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Torfinn Ingolfsen References: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> <20051016221757.25173ba2.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20051016221757.25173ba2.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:40:54 -0000 Hi Torfinn > This works good enough. What would be even better, would be a program > that, when launched from OS X, would restart the machine and boot > straight into FreeBSD. > > so, any ideas on how to do that? At one point I thought it would be possible for an OSX kext to load a FreeBSD kernel and jump to it ala the Linux two-kernel-monty, but FreeBSD requires a 'clean' system with OpenFirmware resident. Xnu blows away OpenFirmware early on in the boot sequence, so that's not possible. It could be done with a shell script that nvset's "boot-device" and "shutdown -r now", though that needs to be reversed when going FreeBSD->OSX. Some of the ppc Linuces have menus in the tbxi files that allow selecting between multiple o/s's - that's another approach. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 23:19:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E030516A41F; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:19:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from saturnero@freesbie.org) Received: from jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it (jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it [83.149.128.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCED43D4C; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:19:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from saturnero@freesbie.org) Received: from [192.168.99.16] (host128-73.pool8256.interbusiness.it [82.56.73.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3B75739; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:23:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4352E005.4040203@freesbie.org> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:19:33 +0200 From: Dario Freni User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: it, it-it, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> <20051016221757.25173ba2.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <4352C8E1.5090907@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4352C8E1.5090907@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saturnero.net/saturnero.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE598B00512D593BA5479E898" Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:19:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE598B00512D593BA5479E898 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040209060309020402080506" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040209060309020402080506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Grehan wrote: > Some of the ppc Linuces have menus in the tbxi files that allow > selecting between multiple o/s's - that's another approach. I got inspired by http://www.rietman.biz/~wijnand/linux/mac/index.html?main And I produced the tbxi attached. Modify it to fit your configuration, then put it on /, set the boot-device to hd:,\boot.tbxi and re-enable auto-boot? variable. Then hold the spacebar at boot if you want to run FreeBSD. Bye, Dario -- Dario Freni (saturnero@freesbie.org) FreeSBIE developer (http://www.freesbie.org) GPG Public key at http://www.saturnero.net/saturnero.asc --------------040209060309020402080506 Content-Type: text/plain; x-mac-type="74627869"; x-mac-creator="63687270"; name="boot.tbxi" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="boot.tbxi" MacRISC MacRISC3 MacRISC4 Multi-boot loader " screen" output " get-key-map" " keyboard" open-dev $call-method dup 20 dump 5 + c@ 08 = if " Booting FreeBSD ..." cr " boot hd:,\fbsd_loader usb0/disk@1:3" eval else " Booting Mac OS X..." cr " boot hd:,\\:tbxi" eval then --------------040209060309020402080506-- --------------enigE598B00512D593BA5479E898 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDUuAKymi72IiShysRAkweAKDn5wEn2LxmEgWvAn2iKuYYhB6x7QCgmJ4k +NzOS6f+fu1gf6gqtetkJFo= =E7Nq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE598B00512D593BA5479E898-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 16 23:50:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE8F16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from cayenne.onthenet.com.au (cacheflow.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F43043D46 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by cayenne.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB04175942A; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:50:51 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4352E75B.60302@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:50:51 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dario Freni References: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> <20051016221757.25173ba2.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <4352C8E1.5090907@freebsd.org> <4352E005.4040203@freesbie.org> In-Reply-To: <4352E005.4040203@freesbie.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:50:53 -0000 > I got inspired by http://www.rietman.biz/~wijnand/linux/mac/index.html?main Actually, for those graphics gurus out there, a project I could use would be for someone to create a BSD daemon icon for the CHRP script. I don't really know anything about the format of this, but OpenBSD has one: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/arch/macppc/stand/tbxidata/bsd.tbxi?rev=1.14&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 11:29:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA19716A41F; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651A443D49; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1ERTBe-0003jU-RR; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:29:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:29:50 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20051017112950.GJ86880@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Peter Grehan , Ben Rosengart , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <20051016020542.GA32826@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BDE9.1030100@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HuscSE0D68UGttcd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4351BDE9.1030100@freebsd.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: Ben Rosengart , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no cvsup(8)?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:29:53 -0000 --HuscSE0D68UGttcd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 12:41:45PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > >(Oh, and what happened to /etc/defaults/make.conf? Is that gone in > >FreeBSD 6?) >=20 > I think it should be /etc/make.conf, but I just checked and saw that=20 > it hasn't been copied there in the ppc release. However, it can be=20 > copied from /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf. It's actually gone for all architectures (or at least, the one in /usr/share/examples is the only one distributed). Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --HuscSE0D68UGttcd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDU4suocfcwTS3JF8RAmaHAKCG65XofPA5o8gwwvhQMNqq9ir++QCfZf6X qWsI4SWs5zHL26SUza3aPN4= =/ZiV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HuscSE0D68UGttcd-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 02:45:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E5716A428 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:45:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from webmaster@machowto.com) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.76.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5B843D46 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:45:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from webmaster@machowto.com) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (c-67-177-44-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net[67.177.44.144]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005101802453701300kq5qhe>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:45:38 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:45:34 -0600 From: "David S. Besade" To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Installing Ports Thread-Index: AcXTjgMOQXGZ2T+BEdq3EwADk1TWeA== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:45:41 -0000 Hey guys, How the heck to you install ports? It doesn't seem to be on the iso, should I try ftping it front sysinstall? -Dave From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 04:43:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C20316A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:43:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flz@xbsd.org) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org (xbsd.org [82.233.2.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0572543D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:43:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flz@xbsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA71128BB; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:43:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65775-01; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:43:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cream.xbsd.org (cream.xbsd.org [192.168.42.6]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B439811759; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:43:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Florent Thoumie To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:43:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1550361.xB4a88px2Q"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200510180643.06873.flz@xbsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xbsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Installing Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:43:18 -0000 --nextPart1550361.xB4a88px2Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 18 October 2005 04:45, David S. Besade wrote: > Hey guys, > > How the heck to you install ports? It doesn't seem to be on the iso, shou= ld > I try ftping it front sysinstall? You can try using portsnap(1). =2D-=20 =46lorent Thoumie flz@FreeBSD.org =46reeBSD Committer --nextPart1550361.xB4a88px2Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDVH1aMxEkbVFH3PQRAuS5AJ4jXzoRN68+Sf9ttZypcLY5sWF70gCaAnar lgWB7wdWpCnpj3UDw4Tm/WE= =y6F/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1550361.xB4a88px2Q-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 04:49:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E294616A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: from absinthe.tinho.net (absinthe.tinho.net [166.84.5.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A176C43D46; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: by absinthe.tinho.net (Postfix, from userid 103) id 0CDA61BF94A; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:49:59 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20051018044958.GA44746@absinthe.tinho.net> References: <20051016020542.GA32826@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BDE9.1030100@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4351BDE9.1030100@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no cvsup(8)?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:50:00 -0000 On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 12:41:45PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > > In the meantime, you might want to give csup a try: > > http://mu.org/~mux/csup.html > > It's been reported to work on FreeBSD/ppc. This is great, though it's rather brittle -- I sometimes have to run it a few times to get through an entire update -- switching servers each time so as not to hit the access limits. I see from the docs that the developer is aware of these issues. Much better than nothing. :-) Are you using this, or cvs, or what? -- Ben Rosengart ben@narcissus.net "Young people should be seen and not heard, because they're good-looking but not too bright. We're pretty bright now, but we're ugly." -- Grace Slick on the '60s youth movement From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 04:55:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2139D16A420 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A9343D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:55:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAA019FCEF; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:55:40 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4354804B.60402@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:55:39 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Rosengart References: <20051016020542.GA32826@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BDE9.1030100@freebsd.org> <20051018044958.GA44746@absinthe.tinho.net> In-Reply-To: <20051018044958.GA44746@absinthe.tinho.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no cvsup(8)?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:55:43 -0000 Hi Ben, > This is great, though it's rather brittle -- I sometimes have to run > it a few times to get through an entire update -- switching servers > each time so as not to hit the access limits. I see from the docs > that the developer is aware of these issues. Much better than > nothing. :-) Are you using this, or cvs, or what? I use cvs on an i386 machine and NFS-mount on ppc when doing releases. Day-to-day stuff is cross-developed on i386 and ppc targets net-booted. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 04:59:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3621116A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:59:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: from absinthe.tinho.net (absinthe.tinho.net [166.84.5.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1D143D4C; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:59:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: by absinthe.tinho.net (Postfix, from userid 103) id E773E1BF956; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:59:32 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20051018045932.GB44746@absinthe.tinho.net> References: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:59:35 -0000 On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 12:33:23PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Ben, > > >1. Is SMP supported on freebsd-ppc? > > Nope :( > > It may not be too difficult. The ppc port is mostly based on the > sparc64 port so all the synchronization primitives are there. I > personally don't have any MP h/w. I have hardware I can loan for this purpose; anyone interested should contact me off-list. (If I lend out that hw, I'll have to install FreeBSD on my Cube -- has anyone tried that?) > >2. What can I put in my NVRAM settings to make the system boot to > > FreeBSD? As it is, I have auto-boot?=false, and when > > the OF prompt comes up, I type "boot hd:loader hd:6". > > There's been some discussion and experimentation with this. Have a > look at Dario Freni's blog, 'FreeBSD on the Mac Mini', and how he > created a CHRP boot script. > > http://blog.freesbie.org/blogs/ Thanks ... hm, with the CHRP script, he has to type 0 > boot hd:,\freebsd.tbxi while I type 0 > boot hd:loader hd:6 without a script. It's not at all clear to me that he's better off than I am. :-) -- Ben Rosengart ben@narcissus.net "Young people should be seen and not heard, because they're good-looking but not too bright. We're pretty bright now, but we're ugly." -- Grace Slick on the '60s youth movement From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 05:33:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012C616A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:33:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from webmaster@machowto.com) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2C143D46 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:33:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from webmaster@machowto.com) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (c-67-177-44-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net[67.177.44.144]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005101805331001300ksgkve>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:33:10 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:33:07 -0600 From: "David S. Besade" To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: A Little Update Thread-Index: AcXTpWscqdtfOj+YEdq3EwADk1TWeA== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: A Little Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:33:12 -0000 Hey Guys, I thought I would give the developers a little heads up on my progress through Beta-3 to RC1. I know you probably have your own test machines, however I have been waiting for a Tier 1 release since FreeBSD 4.4 and now that I have the time to help.. I am going to try. ** Machine Specs ** iMac DV Special Edition 400Mhz G3 384MB PC100 RAM Dual USB Dual Firewire 10/100 Ethernet 8MB Rage 128 Slot Load DVD ** How I installed Ports ** I Just FTP'd into the FreeBSD Main server and downloaded ports.tar.gz. Then, after installing wget, I used csup to install the source and update ports. Works great. No Problems. If you all need someone to start going through ports and test compiling everything, let me know, this is a local machine and I can work on that and send in the logs for the failures. ** Installing the stuff the installer doesn't ** After I got the source downloaded, I went through and installed the man files, dict (for pico and iSpell), and various other trinkets including OpenSSL and the like although I installed perl from ports for ease of upgrading later if needed. So Far everything has been stable, I am going to compile a optimized kernel tonight to help with build speeds as I don't need the debug output to test build. I have been working on a Quad Xeon and the AMD64 port as well, good stuff they got ACPI sorta working ;). A Big Thank you to Peter & Crew for making this happen. -Dave From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 05:55:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEED116A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D87743D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE40C19FD43; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:55:25 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <43548E4C.9080809@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:55:24 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David S. Besade" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Little Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:55:28 -0000 Hi Dave, > I thought I would give the developers a little heads up on my progress > through Beta-3 to RC1. I know you probably have your own test machines, > however I have been waiting for a Tier 1 release since FreeBSD 4.4 and now > that I have the time to help.. I am going to try. ppc is still a ways off tier-1, but it'll get there one day. > ** > Machine Specs > ** > iMac DV Special Edition > 400Mhz G3 > 384MB PC100 RAM > Dual USB > Dual Firewire > 10/100 Ethernet > 8MB Rage 128 > Slot Load DVD Would you be able to post a dmesg for this system ? > ** > How I installed Ports > ** > I Just FTP'd into the FreeBSD Main server and downloaded ports.tar.gz. Then, > after installing wget, I used csup to install the source and update ports. > Works great. No Problems. If you all need someone to start going through > ports and test compiling everything, let me know, this is a local machine > and I can work on that and send in the logs for the failures. Go for it ! The main problems I've had with ports are ones with a machine-dependent component (e.g. clisp, emacs), and they're ones that'll probably need to be fixed by folks on this list and submitted to the port maintainers. > So Far everything has been stable, I am going to compile a optimized kernel > tonight to help with build speeds as I don't need the debug output to test > build. A kernel built without INVARIANTS and WITNESS will be a lot faster. > A Big Thank you to Peter & Crew for making this happen. Thanks for your support ! later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 05:56:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB1A16A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B478A43D46 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:56:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C99A19FC6A; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:56:04 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <43548E73.7040608@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:56:03 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David S. Besade" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:56:06 -0000 > How the heck to you install ports? It doesn't seem to be on the iso I'll try to fix that for the release. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 06:03:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3793F16A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:03:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF7D43D49 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:03:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE9419FB30; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:03:29 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4354902F.5000803@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:03:27 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Rosengart References: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> <20051018045932.GB44746@absinthe.tinho.net> In-Reply-To: <20051018045932.GB44746@absinthe.tinho.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:03:31 -0000 Hi Ben, > I'll have to install FreeBSD on my Cube -- has anyone tried that?) There was a report a while back: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2004-December/000760.html I would guess that it should install fine: the h/w is almost identical to the G4 tower systems from that era and they run OK. > Thanks ... hm, with the CHRP script, he has to type > > 0 > boot hd:,\freebsd.tbxi > > while I type > > 0 > boot hd:loader hd:6 > > without a script. It's not at all clear to me that he's better off > than I am. :-) With only a single argument to boot, the 'bootdev' environment variable can be set to 'hd:,\freebsd.tbxi', and 'autoboot?' set to true. This allows an automatic boot into FreeBSD with no need to drop into OpenFirmware. I guess that wasn't really mentioned in the article, but it was most of the way there :) later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 06:05:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E4916A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:05:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flz@xbsd.org) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org (xbsd.org [82.233.2.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F86D43D48 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:05:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flz@xbsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F749128BF; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:05:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66217-03; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:05:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cream.xbsd.org (cream.xbsd.org [192.168.42.6]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8029A128A5; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:05:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Florent Thoumie To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:05:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3978346.36T9V1gt1u"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200510180805.30568.flz@xbsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xbsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: A Little Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:05:44 -0000 --nextPart3978346.36T9V1gt1u Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 18 October 2005 07:33, David S. Besade wrote: > Hey Guys, > > I thought I would give the developers a little heads up on my progress > through Beta-3 to RC1. I know you probably have your own test machines, > however I have been waiting for a Tier 1 release since FreeBSD 4.4 and now > that I have the time to help.. I am going to try. > > ** > Machine Specs > ** > iMac DV Special Edition > 400Mhz G3 > 384MB PC100 RAM > Dual USB > Dual Firewire > 10/100 Ethernet > 8MB Rage 128 > Slot Load DVD > > So Far everything has been stable, [,,,] Would you mind if I add this information on the website along with your na= me=20 and email (and optionally dmesg of the machine if you could put it=20 somewhere) ? =2D-=20 =46lorent Thoumie flz@FreeBSD.org =46reeBSD Committer --nextPart3978346.36T9V1gt1u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDVJCqMxEkbVFH3PQRAsm2AJ0RjwwcTke3FM54sb8elEbhsB3kDgCfbL8r 9vwqFv6PyBopb3CBboaFlY0= =hH5t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3978346.36T9V1gt1u-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 11:43:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4C216A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:43:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from mail.metronet.co.uk (mail.metronet.co.uk [213.162.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0555C43D5D for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:43:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (84-51-133-9.oxford903.adsl.metronet.co.uk [84.51.133.9]) by smtp.metronet.co.uk (MetroNet Mail) with ESMTP id 477EE40EF80 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:43:08 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4354DFD4.3060706@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:43:16 +0100 From: Graham J Lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:43:19 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to install 6.0RC1 from the disk image and the instructions at http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/iso_install.txt but get the following panic at every boot: panic: Assertion curthread != NULL failed at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:268 KDB: enter: panic [thread pid -1 tid 0 ] Stopped at 0: illegal instruction 0 The hardware is a 500Mhz G4 PowerMac (AGP graphics), 768MB RAM, with a "ATTO,ExpressPCIProUL2D" PCI SCSI card on which the disk I wish to install FreeBSD is located - but I've tried removing that and still get the same panic. I've also booted the CD in a different machine (this iBook G4) and get the sysinstall screen, so the ISO seems to have been burned OK. Any suggestions? :-) Cheers, Graham. -- Graham Lee UNIX Systems Manager, Oxford Physics Practical Course http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1342/ 01865 273450 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 14:01:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B76316A420; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:01:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: from absinthe.tinho.net (absinthe.tinho.net [166.84.5.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1973143D45; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:01:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben+freebsd.org@narcissus.net) Received: by absinthe.tinho.net (Postfix, from userid 103) id 509B41BF94D; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:01:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:01:41 -0400 From: Ben Rosengart To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20051018140141.GA64866@absinthe.tinho.net> References: <20051016012933.GB31458@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BBF3.8060003@freebsd.org> <20051018045932.GB44746@absinthe.tinho.net> <4354902F.5000803@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4354902F.5000803@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP; autoboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:01:42 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 04:03:27PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > > With only a single argument to boot, the 'bootdev' environment > variable can be set to 'hd:,\freebsd.tbxi', and 'autoboot?' set to true. Is that the key -- that OF will only pass one argument to boot? > I guess that wasn't really mentioned in the article, but it was most > of the way there :) That makes sense. -- Ben Rosengart ben@narcissus.net "Young people should be seen and not heard, because they're good-looking but not too bright. We're pretty bright now, but we're ugly." -- Grace Slick on the '60s youth movement From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 15:16:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA7A16A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from mail.metronet.co.uk (mail.metronet.co.uk [213.162.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959D943D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (84-51-133-9.oxford903.adsl.metronet.co.uk [84.51.133.9]) by smtp.metronet.co.uk (MetroNet Mail) with ESMTP id BF88040ED84 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:16:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <435511BE.7080604@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:16:14 +0100 From: Graham J Lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <4354DFD4.3060706@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4354DFD4.3060706@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:16:17 -0000 Graham J Lee wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install 6.0RC1 from the disk image and the instructions at > http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/iso_install.txt but get the following > panic at every boot: > > panic: Assertion curthread != NULL failed at > /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:268 Having tried some different search terms in the list archives I've found this: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-ppc/2005-October/001372.html same problem, similar hardware. I wonder whether there's any more progress come out of that? I can't get a backtrace from the hang - partly through not knowing how kdb works but also because the keyboard seems unresponsive at the db> prompt. Cheers, Graham. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 16:31:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C6D16A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:31:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B9443D46 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:31:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j9IGVbHF022888; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:31:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20051018044958.GA44746@absinthe.tinho.net> References: <20051016020542.GA32826@absinthe.tinho.net> <4351BDE9.1030100@freebsd.org> <20051018044958.GA44746@absinthe.tinho.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:31:35 -0400 To: Ben Rosengart From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.3 Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no cvsup(8)?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:31:42 -0000 At 12:49 AM -0400 10/18/05, Ben Rosengart wrote: >On Sun, Oct 16, 2005, Peter Grehan wrote: > > >> In the meantime, you might want to give csup a try: >> >> http://mu.org/~mux/csup.html >> >> It's been reported to work on FreeBSD/ppc. > >This is great, though it's rather brittle -- I sometimes have to run >it a few times to get through an entire update -- switching servers >each time so as not to hit the access limits. I see from the docs >that the developer is aware of these issues. Much better than >nothing. :-) Are you using this, or cvs, or what? In my case, I have several machines running freebsd. Due to that, it is worthwhile for me to set up one of those machines (an Athlon) as a cvsup-mirror. All my other freebsd machines then connect to my own local cvsup server, so I don't have to worry about hitting access limits. For my PPC machine, the second trick I do is that I run cvsup the CVS repository into a separate directory on one of my Athlon machines. I then nfs-export that directory to the powerPC machine, and the powerPC machine does a 'cvs checkout' from the nfs-mounted directory. Thus the powerPC machine does not have to run cvsup. It sounds like a lot of work to set up, but actually it isn't as hard as it sounds. I also cvsup the ports collection into a separate directory on my athlon, and nfs-export that to the powerPC machine. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 17:11:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1B216A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:11:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TimSimmons@championrealty.com) Received: from mail.championrealty.com (mail.fnistools.com [206.54.148.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD5F43D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:11:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TimSimmons@championrealty.com) Received: from TIM [67.103.180.19] by mail.championrealty.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id ACA421D00128; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:11:00 -0500 From: "Tim Simmons" To: "'Graham J Lee'" Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:11:00 -0400 Message-ID: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcXT9uu363huqxQxRYOxDGSaeChLPQAD7ZFw In-Reply-To: <435511BE.7080604@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Declude-Sender: TimSimmons@championrealty.com [67.103.180.19] X-Declude-Spoolname: D2CA421D001280174.SMD X-Declude-Scan: Score [0] at 12:11:01 on 18 Oct 2005 X-Declude-Tests: Whitelisted X-Country-Chain: Organization: Fidelity National Real Estate Solutions Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: RE: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:11:08 -0000 I haven't heard anything new on this issue, and without having another mac here to play with, I can't do anything with the code. If the maintainers would like to take a stab at it, that'd be great, I'd be more than happy to test whatever gets sent out. Tim Simmons IT Technician Champion Realty, Inc. TimSimmons@ChampionRealty.Com Direct:410-975-3028 Fax: 410-647-1187 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Graham J Lee Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:16 AM To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic booting install CD Graham J Lee wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install 6.0RC1 from the disk image and the instructions at > http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/iso_install.txt but get the following > panic at every boot: > > panic: Assertion curthread != NULL failed at > /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:268 Having tried some different search terms in the list archives I've found this: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-ppc/2005-October/001372.html same problem, similar hardware. I wonder whether there's any more progress come out of that? I can't get a backtrace from the hang - partly through not knowing how kdb works but also because the keyboard seems unresponsive at the db> prompt. Cheers, Graham. _______________________________________________ freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 17:33:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFAA16A459 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from mail.metronet.co.uk (mail.metronet.co.uk [213.162.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B93443D45 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:33:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (84-51-133-9.oxford903.adsl.metronet.co.uk [84.51.133.9]) by smtp.metronet.co.uk (MetroNet Mail) with ESMTP id CCCCC40C305 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:33:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <435531E4.8090308@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:33:24 +0100 From: Graham J Lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> In-Reply-To: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:33:27 -0000 Tim Simmons wrote: > I haven't heard anything new on this issue, and without having another mac > here to play with, I can't do anything with the code. If the maintainers > would like to take a stab at it, that'd be great, I'd be more than happy to > test whatever gets sent out. > Are there instructions (i.e. I've searched, and can't find any) on creating a chroot build environment for FreeBSD under Darwin? If so, I could compile FreeBSD onto the target device from OS X, then try hacking until I can isolate the panic... Cheers, Graham. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 17:44:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5765616A41F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:44:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from mail.metronet.co.uk (mail.metronet.co.uk [213.162.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B2043D48 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:44:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (84-51-133-9.oxford903.adsl.metronet.co.uk [84.51.133.9]) by smtp.metronet.co.uk (MetroNet Mail) with ESMTP id 6F16E40D5E7 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:42:10 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <435533FF.2000609@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:42:23 +0100 From: Graham J Lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> <435531E4.8090308@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <435531E4.8090308@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:44:36 -0000 Graham J Lee wrote: > Tim Simmons wrote: > >> I haven't heard anything new on this issue, and without having another >> mac >> here to play with, I can't do anything with the code. If the maintainers >> would like to take a stab at it, that'd be great, I'd be more than >> happy to >> test whatever gets sent out. >> > > Are there instructions (i.e. I've searched, and can't find any) on > creating a chroot build environment for FreeBSD under Darwin? If so, I > could compile FreeBSD onto the target device from OS X, then try hacking > until I can isolate the panic... > Oh hang on, I know why that wouldn't work... :-) From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 04:35:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A63F16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:35:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC2543D53 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:35:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAB119FC41; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:35:27 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4355CD0D.50301@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:35:25 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Simmons References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> In-Reply-To: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:35:29 -0000 I can reproduce this on an old eMac when booting with the 'C' key held (though not when booting manually), so I'll have a look at it. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 10:45:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DF216A41F; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:45:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from rayleigh.physics.ox.ac.uk (rayleigh.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.245.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDB543D48; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:45:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from pedagogue ([163.1.245.199] helo=[192.168.200.249]) by rayleigh.physics.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 1ESBS2-00070Y-00; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:45:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4355CD0D.50301@freebsd.org> References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> <4355CD0D.50301@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3CEE03B7-701F-47B4-9283-B8AB6B657DEC@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Graham J Lee Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:46:52 +0100 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:45:43 -0000 On 19 Oct 2005, at 05:35, Peter Grehan wrote: > I can reproduce this on an old eMac when booting with the 'C' key > held (though not when booting manually), so I'll have a look at it. When you say "booting manually", do you mean something like: > boot cd:,\boot\loader cd:X where X is some number? If so, I haven't tried doing that on my sawtooth and could see if that yields different results. Cheers, Graham. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 10:47:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBB216A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:47:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA2343D46 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:47:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9B519FB99; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:47:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4356243F.6090703@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:47:27 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham J Lee References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> <4355CD0D.50301@freebsd.org> <3CEE03B7-701F-47B4-9283-B8AB6B657DEC@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <3CEE03B7-701F-47B4-9283-B8AB6B657DEC@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:47:32 -0000 > When you say "booting manually", do you mean something like: > > > boot cd:,\boot\loader cd:X > where X is some number? If so, I haven't tried doing that on my > sawtooth and could see if that yields different results. That's right: break into OpenFirmware with cmd-opt-o-f instead of just holding down the 'c' key and enter the boot command as you typed. cd:X will always be cd:0. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 11:42:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4497A16A420 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:42:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siarod@tin.it) Received: from vsmtp2.tin.it (vsmtp2alice.tin.it [212.216.176.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1D043D48 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:41:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siarod@tin.it) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (82.51.45.119) by vsmtp2.tin.it (7.2.060.1) (authenticated as siarod) id 435500ED0007F2E0 for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:41:54 +0200 Message-ID: <435630ED.6020505@tin.it> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:41:33 +0200 From: Diego User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: it, it-it, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0542-2, 18/10/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: ADB Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:42:00 -0000 There are news about ADB port? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 23:13:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE43416A41F; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:13:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from mail.metronet.co.uk (mail.metronet.co.uk [213.162.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2F843D68; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:13:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leeg@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (84-51-133-9.oxford903.adsl.metronet.co.uk [84.51.133.9]) by smtp.metronet.co.uk (MetroNet Mail) with ESMTP id 0717B415CAF; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:10:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4356D288.9040404@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:11:04 +0100 From: Graham J Lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Grehan References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> <4355CD0D.50301@freebsd.org> <3CEE03B7-701F-47B4-9283-B8AB6B657DEC@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> <4356243F.6090703@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4356243F.6090703@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:13:58 -0000 Peter Grehan wrote: >> When you say "booting manually", do you mean something like: >> >> > boot cd:,\boot\loader cd:X >> where X is some number? If so, I haven't tried doing that on my >> sawtooth and could see if that yields different results. > > > That's right Sadly I get the same panic when I do that on my hardware. Equally sadly I'm no kernel programmer so my attempt to chase down the panic by looking at the current rev of kern_mutex.c didn't yield anything. A pity because I'd like to get FreeBSD working on this machine and then see if any userland needs tweaking (my C skills do at least run that far) - so if there's any way I can help track down this problem I'd like to do that. For instance: > Graham J Lee wrote: > >> Graham J Lee wrote: >> >> Are there instructions (i.e. I've searched, and can't find any) on creating a chroot build environment for FreeBSD under Darwin? If so, I could compile FreeBSD onto the target device from OS X, then try hacking until I can isolate the panic... >> > Oh hang on, I know why that wouldn't work... :-) Actually, I probably *could* create a bootp environment so that the Sawtooth boots the kernel over the network then tries to use the filesystem on the CD as its root, would that work? Could I use that to attack the kernel problem? How would I build the FreeBSD kernel under Darwin? Cheers, Graham. [enthusiastic, if somewhat out of depth] From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 23:43:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF0E16A41F for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECD043D62 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AB919FC50; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:43:35 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4356DA25.10303@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:43:33 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham J Lee References: <006601c5d406$ea0a8f20$13b46743@TIM> <4355CD0D.50301@freebsd.org> <3CEE03B7-701F-47B4-9283-B8AB6B657DEC@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> <4356243F.6090703@freebsd.org> <4356D288.9040404@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4356D288.9040404@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic booting install CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:43:36 -0000 Hi Graham, > Sadly I get the same panic when I do that on my hardware. Equally sadly > I'm no kernel programmer so my attempt to chase down the panic by > looking at the current rev of kern_mutex.c didn't yield anything. A > pity because I'd like to get FreeBSD working on this machine and then > see if any userland needs tweaking (my C skills do at least run that > far) - so if there's any way I can help track down this problem I'd like > to do that. I'm certain that it isn't a problem with the mutex code. My suspicion is that there isn't enough processor state saved/restored when the kernel calls into OpenFirmware, in particular the SPRG0-3 registers. The kernel uses the SPRG0 register to point to the per-cpu data structure, which includes the curthread pointer. SPRG0 is probably trashed and ends up pointing to a garbage area which causes the mutex assertion to fail. > Actually, I probably *could* create a bootp environment so that the > Sawtooth boots the kernel over the network then tries to use the > filesystem on the CD as its root, would that work? Could I use that to > attack the kernel problem? Yep. I do most of my testing with netboot, though for this case it'll be a CD-RW shuffle since that's the only way I can reproduce it. > How would I build the FreeBSD kernel under Darwin? Unfortunately this isn't possible. I'll see if my SPRG0 save/restore theory holds, and if so, I'll post a kernel that you can try out with a netboot. > [enthusiastic, if somewhat out of depth] Enthusiasm counts for more :) later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 09:42:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7AB16A41F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA7E43D62 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.185] (CPE-18-185.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.185]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F2B19FCBF; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:42:31 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <43576685.90700@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:42:29 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Diego References: <435630ED.6020505@tin.it> In-Reply-To: <435630ED.6020505@tin.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADB Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:42:33 -0000 > There are news about ADB port? Sorry, nothing to report :( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 20 13:59:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB6E16A41F; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8CA43D64; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout11/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j9KDxl0g007069; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (dsl231-059-251.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.59.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j9KDwvej001952; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:59:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <43576685.90700@freebsd.org> References: <435630ED.6020505@tin.it> <43576685.90700@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2D1D9464-79F7-4530-9669-F69D35B461D9@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:59:45 -0700 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Cc: Diego , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADB Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:59:48 -0000 On Oct 20, 2005, at 2:42 AM, Peter Grehan wrote: >> There are news about ADB port? >> > > Sorry, nothing to report :( Yeah, me neither. Life got complicated again... Dave > > later, > > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 08:40:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405E916A420 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:40:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FA543D45 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9L8eIGg077803 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:40:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9L8eIoO077802; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:40:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:40:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510210840.j9L8eIoO077802@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Nathan Carter Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F63A16A420 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:38:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC9E43D69 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:38:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9L8c92s013226 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:38:09 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9L8c9se013225; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:38:09 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200510210838.j9L8c9se013225@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:38:09 GMT From: Nathan Carter To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: powerpc/87775: FreeBSD 6.0 will not boot on iMac (5 flavours) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:40:19 -0000 >Number: 87775 >Category: powerpc >Synopsis: FreeBSD 6.0 will not boot on iMac (5 flavours) >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ppc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Oct 21 08:40:18 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Nathan Carter >Release: 6.0 Beta 4 for PPC >Organization: >Environment: Unable to output uname -a, kernel will not boot. The system is a bog standard 5 flavours iMac with 96MB RAM >Description: The system will not boot the kernel. When you boot it displays: KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB: current backend: ddb fatal kernel trap execution = 0x4 (instruction storage interrupt) virtual address = 0x3d66a0 srr0 = 0x3d66a0 srr1 = 0x8003032 currthread = 0x4bbc98 pid = 0, comm = thread pid 0 tid 0 stopped at 0x3d66a0: isync db> >How-To-Repeat: Boot from the CD. Hit enter to boot immediately when prompted >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 09:24:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A37616A420; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:24:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCF243D46; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:24:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (grehan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9L9OEXY083489; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:24:14 GMT (envelope-from grehan@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from grehan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9L9OEKg083485; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:24:14 GMT (envelope-from grehan) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:24:14 GMT From: Peter Grehan Message-Id: <200510210924.j9L9OEKg083485@freefall.freebsd.org> To: magnaboy@westnet.com.au, grehan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: powerpc/87775: FreeBSD 6.0 will not boot on iMac (5 flavours) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:24:15 -0000 Synopsis: FreeBSD 6.0 will not boot on iMac (5 flavours) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: grehan State-Changed-When: Fri Oct 21 09:19:46 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Known problem, already fixed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87775 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 21:12:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8425C16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:12:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from BenjaminDAdams@softhome.net) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAE8B43D48 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:12:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from BenjaminDAdams@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 25917 invoked by uid 417); 22 Oct 2005 21:12:13 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2005 21:12:13 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([66.66.20.21]) (AUTH: PLAIN BenjaminDAdams@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:12:12 -0600 From: Benjamin D Adams To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-Bugs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-ppc@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:13:48 -0500 Message-Id: <1130019228.6798.17.camel@Devel.FreeBSDWorld.NET> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Subject: Re: powerpc/87775: FreeBSD 6.0 will not boot on iMac (5 flavours) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:12:14 -0000 Old report: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87775 I know this was reported just yesterday. The fix says to try 6.0-RC1 Which is what I'm running Machine is: G5 iMac I get the same problem Description The system will not boot the kernel. When you boot it displays: KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB: current backend: ddb (in old report it has the fatal kernel trap...I don't get that message just the above) How-To-Repeat Boot from the CD. Hit enter to boot immediately when prompted Will reply with more information, Just ask what else you need me to do and run. Thanks, Happy to help FreeBSD :) -- Benjamin D Adams -- http://www.FreeBSDWorld.NET From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 21:20:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D867C16A429 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:20:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2E943D6D for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:20:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9MLKJ6w013925 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:20:19 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9MLKJJp013924; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:20:19 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:20:19 GMT Message-Id: <200510222120.j9MLKJJp013924@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org From: Benjamin D Adams Cc: Subject: Re: powerpc/87775: FreeBSD 6.0 will not boot on iMac (5 flavours) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin D Adams List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:20:25 -0000 The following reply was made to PR powerpc/87775; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Benjamin D Adams To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-Bugs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-ppc@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: powerpc/87775: FreeBSD 6.0 will not boot on iMac (5 flavours) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:13:48 -0500 Old report: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87775 I know this was reported just yesterday. The fix says to try 6.0-RC1 Which is what I'm running Machine is: G5 iMac I get the same problem Description The system will not boot the kernel. When you boot it displays: KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB: current backend: ddb (in old report it has the fatal kernel trap...I don't get that message just the above) How-To-Repeat Boot from the CD. Hit enter to boot immediately when prompted Will reply with more information, Just ask what else you need me to do and run. Thanks, Happy to help FreeBSD :) -- Benjamin D Adams -- http://www.FreeBSDWorld.NET