From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:05:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A208716A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:05:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53803.mail.yahoo.com (web53803.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EF1A43D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stigmata_blackangel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 98047 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jan 2005 00:05:07 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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What are uhci's dependencies? On a similar note, if I commented out some kernel option that was required by another kernel option, would the build process fail, or would it build a broken kernel? The reason I ask: I hafta run usbd with "-f /dev/usb4" because my USB external harddrive insists on being detected on usb4 instead of usb0-3. The dmesg indicates that usb0-3 are uhci and usb4 is ehci, and it'd be nice to force then all ehci, since they are all USB2 ports. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:22:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76B516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613F343D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j090INcC051657; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:18:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)j090IMCa051654; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:18:23 GMT (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:18:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr In-Reply-To: <1105191697.41dfe311aea10@webmail.uoi.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plans about GIANT-LOCK, SMP performance ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:22:18 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr wrote: > Does anybody know what are the plans, for locking mechanism like > GIANT-LOCK in future 5.3 Releases? I have heard from many people that > this GIANT-Locking mechanism is not the best thing to have! Some said > that it may be replaced. Some also said that it won't. > > 1:) What are the plans about it? > > 2:) How does this affect performance? > > 3:) Which is version is best for an Opteron QUAD? > 4.10 Release or > 5.X Release ??? One of the single largest projects associated with the FreeBSD 5.x release line has been the elimination of the Giant lock from many of the kernel code paths. FreeBSD 5.0 - 5.2 largely involved introducing the infrastructure necessary to remove Giant from major subsystems, and while Giant was removed in some of these releases from a number of important IPC paths, etc, it was still present over the majority of device drivers, the network subsystem, and the storage subsystem. In FreeBSD 5.3, the network subsystem runs without the Giant lock in most cases (some legacy components, such as support for IPX/SPX require Giant -- most of these cases will be eliminated in 5.4). The result is substantial increases in effective parallelism on SMP on multi-processor systems. This work continues in both the 6.x and 5.x branches, with many additional improvements expected over the next few months (and releases). In particular, now that the basic SMPng infrastructure works, we're moving into the optimization phase in which additional locking overhead associated with finer graind lock is profiled, analyzed, and optimized. Performance measurements generally suggest that work loads capable of exploiting parallelism in the network stack may see substantial improvements on SMP over previous releases, including things like databases, large scale web servers, etc. Other workloads may see less improvement, or in some cases, a performance reduction with respect to 4.x. In particular, the change in kernel architecture to remove the Giant lock has introduced additional locking operations that are not free -- on UP systems, this effect may be more noticeable, since there are no parallelism gains to be had from finer grained locking (although the preemption benefits can be observable). As I mention above, this is the subject of active work. One of the substantial goals for the 6.x line, with a likely merge to 5.x as the work matures, is the removal of Giant from large parts of VFS. There are current patches to do this in many useful cases for the UFS/UFS2 file system, available for testing on the freebsd-current mailing list. These are highly experimental, but continue the SMPng work in important ways. You can start to look for the benefits of this work in mainstream FreeBSD releases in 6-8 months, I think. For the 64-bit AMD processor line, FreeBSD 5.3/amd64 is generally recommended, as it is able to take advantage of the 64-bit feature set, including large address spaces, which can be very important for database applications, large scale image processing, computation, etc. One caution I might have is the following: some workload do not benefit from 64-bit operating system code and applications, as they are not able to use the additional memory effectively. When this is the case, the additional address space (etc) introduce an overhead relative to 32-bit operation, so it may be that these applications see a performance hit when not running the 32-bit version of FreeBSD for the platform (the i386 release). Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:24:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB45716A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:24:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC8943D1F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:24:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: from infidel.fajita.org (81-178-64-28.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.64.28]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA054E0000E5 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:24:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from black.fajita.org ([192.168.0.20]) by infidel.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j090MSmC084405 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:22:28 GMT (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: from black.fajita.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by black.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j090Nt0R003966 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:23:55 GMT (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: (from lewiz@localhost) by black.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j090NttB003965 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:23:55 GMT (envelope-from lewiz) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:23:55 +0000 From: Lewis Thompson To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109002355.GA3882@black.fajita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Packet filtering with pf and gif tunnels. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:24:09 -0000 Hi, I am wondering what sequence a packet goes through when it is passing through a gif tunnel. I have the following interface and gif tunnel (with the equivalent being on the same subnet at the other side): fxp0: a.a.a.a/24 gif0: a.a.a.a -> a.a.a.b (192.168.0.1/32 -> 192.168.0.2/32) My question is really what order does the packet go pass through my firewall (pf) in? i.e., is it: in on fxp0 from a.a.a.b to a.a.a.a (unencapsulated) in on gif0 from 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.1 or does it just magically ``appear'' on gif0 straight away? Now I write it out I am assuiming that it passes through pf twice (first on fxp0 and secondly on gif0); if this is in fact the case, what sensible rule might I add to allow this encapsulated traffic from a.a.a.b? Currently I have pf configured as follows: pass all pass quick proto icmp block in on fxp0 pass out on fxp0 keep state pass in on fxp0 proto tcp from any to fxp0 port 22 keep state The reason I ask this question is that for my tunnel endpoints to ping each other, a.a.a.a must be doing so (a.a.a.b has no firewall). Thank you, -Lewis Thompson. -- I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. -| msn:lewiz@fajita.org | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:30:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9A416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:30:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA2F43D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:30:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j090QEV0051701; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:26:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)j090QDVB051698; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:26:13 GMT (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:26:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Tm4528@aol.com In-Reply-To: <13c.a0c43e8.2f0ebcef@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: tedm@toybox.placo.com cc: dave@horsfall.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:30:06 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 Tm4528@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/6/05 4:51:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, dave@horsfall.org > writes: > > 4.10 *is* supported, and 5.3 works "as advertised" - what the hell is your > > *problem* exactly??? > Its been well documented that 5.3 does NOT work as advertised, and the > newest intel chipsets (not that new) don't work in 4.10, redering is useless > with the newer intel processors. To quote Robert watson of the Freebsd > core team who posted to this list on Nov 11, 2004: The statement you quote below does not mean that FreeBSD 5.3 is inappropriate for use in production, it rather means that with some workloads, FreeBSD 5.3 may show reduced performance over some earlier releaes. However, given that FreeBSD 4.x is in many cases the gold standard for network performance, and FreeBSD 5.x includes substantial rewrites of many sections of the kernel to support SMP better, some degradation in specific workloads at this point in the 5.x release life cycle isn't unexpected. My belief is that for the vast majority of FreeBSD installs, the performance costs will not be measurable -- in fact, in many interesting workloads, performance is dramatically improved. As I indicated in the quoted e-mail, the workloads particularly sensitive to the on-going performance work will be ones that are sensitive to small additional overhead, such as the high speed forwarding of many very small packets. And as I mentioned in my earlier e-mail, this is the continued topic of active development, with many improvements already present in the 5.x-STABLE branch. > " > FreeBSD 5.3 sees an observably higher per-packet processing costs than the > 4.x branch due to in-progress changes to the synchronization and queueing > models. Specifically, the SMPng work has changed the interrupt and > synchronization models throughout the kernel in order to increase > concurrency and preemptibility (i.e., lower latency in interrupt-based > processing). However, this has increaseed the overall overhead of > synchronization on the stack. The network stack forwarding path is > particularly sensitive to this, so while other parts of the system see > immediate concurrency benefits (i.e., socket-centric web servers that now > see less contention on SMP, and more preemption on UP), this path still > runs slower for many workloads. We're actively working to remedy this, > and you will see changes merged to the 6.x and 5.x branches over the next > couple of months that will cut into the numbers you see above by quite a > bit. Off the top of my head, I would have expected to see more around a > 15% overhead on UP for the workload you're seeing, but as you point out, > results can and do vary." > > 5.3 is not ready for production. 4.10 should be fully supported until it > is. The FreeBSD 4.x branches will be supported in production for quite some time in the future. However, only some releases are slated for "long life" maintenance, in order to reduce the testing and backporting workload and allow FreeBSD developers to focus their work more effectively. You can find detailed information on the planned support lifetimes of various releases on the FreeBSD Security Officer's web page. And, you'll see that changes and improvements continue to be merged to 4.x, albeit at a reduced pace, as we move forward. Merging large scale changes to 4.x doesn't make sense -- the effort is better invested in continuing to move forward on the 6.x and 5.x branches. However, as someone who anticipates having 4.x systems in production for years to come, I can promise we won't see things simply cease to be supported. I actually still have FreeBSD 3.x systems in production, as do many large consumers of FreeBSD... Entertainingly, at the company I work at, we only recently moved from Windows NT 4 to Windows XP, despite the dramatic improvements in Windows between those systems... Software seems to live a lot longer than one might think from the frantic software release rates of most application packages, etc. Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:31:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC36916A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:31:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ispmxmta09-srv.alltel.net (ispmxmta09-srv.alltel.net [166.102.165.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6D343D48 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:31:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trey@fastmail.fm) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [69.40.74.131]) by ispmxmta09-srv.alltel.net with ESMTP <20050109003141.UPDH23786.ispmxmta09-srv.alltel.net@[192.168.0.2]> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:31:41 -0600 From: Trey Sizemore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050108220223.GB15324@31415926535.com> References: <1105210740.1193.6.camel@localhost> <20050108220223.GB15324@31415926535.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:33:26 -0500 Message-Id: <1105230806.1193.9.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Good image editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:31:43 -0000 On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 17:02 -0500, Corey Bettenhausen wrote: > Have you looked at the Gimp? > /usr/ports/graphics/gimp > http://www.gimp.org Yes, I use it as well. I like it, but for simple editing and looking at pictures in an album-type format, I'm looking for a package like pixie-plus or digikam (these don't work on my 5.3 box) -- Cheers, Trey --- When you have robbed a man of everything, he is no longer in your power. He is free again. -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn 7:32PM up 1 day, 31 mins, 0 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.03, 0.04 FreeBSD salamander.thesizemores.net 5.3-STABLE i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:33:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB37D16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:33:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DF043D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:33:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j090TPSa051725; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:29:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)j090TPpY051722; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:29:25 GMT (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:29:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Jay Teutenberg In-Reply-To: <005901c4f5c9$dc817600$a2a6b0d8@right> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.x can ping 25152 bytes but not 25153 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:33:17 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Jay Teutenberg wrote: > We are up against an interesting problem. > > We have several FBSD servers, the ones that are 5.x do not seem to be > able to respond to pings larger than 25152, but 4.x kernels can. > > We are getting I/O errors from sendmail and want to make sure our > networking is ok. We have tried swapping cables, ports in the cisco cat > 2912, swapped 3com905's, no luck. > > Thanks all, my apologies if this is a bikeshed, I did my best to > research it. Found some postings in this group last year where someone > mentions this phenomena, but no fix or answer was offered. > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-April/044070.html This is probably due to resource limits on the maximum number of fragments that may be supported for an IP packet. You can take a look at the fragment limits using sysctl: net.inet.ip.maxfragpackets: 800 net.inet.ip.maxfragsperpacket: 16 If you increase maxfragsperpacket, you should be able to see FreeBSD clients and servers handle ICMP pings larger in size. These resources limits were put in place to address a widely observed denial of service attack involving the delivery of many small fragments to hosts in a form that prevents reassembly but consumes large amounts of memory and CPU. Let me know if tweaking the above doesn't help, though! Thanks, Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:35:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D51016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:35:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F4C43D1F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:35:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: from infidel.fajita.org (81-178-64-28.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.64.28]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50167E000057; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:35:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from black.fajita.org ([192.168.0.20]) by infidel.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j090Y7oc084500; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:34:07 GMT (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: from black.fajita.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by black.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j090ZZGO004056; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:35:35 GMT (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: (from lewiz@localhost) by black.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j090ZZPG004055; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:35:35 GMT (envelope-from lewiz) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:35:35 +0000 From: Lewis Thompson To: Trey Sizemore Message-ID: <20050109003535.GA4035@black.fajita.org> References: <1105210740.1193.6.camel@localhost> <20050108220223.GB15324@31415926535.com> <1105230806.1193.9.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1105230806.1193.9.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good image editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:35:45 -0000 On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 07:33:26PM -0500, Trey Sizemore wrote: > Yes, I use it as well. I like it, but for simple editing and looking at > pictures in an album-type format, I'm looking for a package like > pixie-plus or digikam (these don't work on my 5.3 box) I like gqview for viewing. It has a configurable menu that allows you to open any image in a variety of editors. -Lewis Thompson. -- I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. -| msn:lewiz@fajita.org | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:47:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB3E16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:47:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50310.mail.yahoo.com (web50310.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1694843D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:47:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murcielako@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26466 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jan 2005 00:47:29 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=i8KH2aGbJmAX9HjA19b+AUJkiYKGWtxcXUMNQ53FrCdHwAWd/jSZfX4PRm++MjRdjbSYb2+HnkIUuSCbraEeGZURvXOLFL+AasiG2dU7zZVYSrRUPzraKj4hfqIZVM7cSyga/mcdmSW9a8IG60+QNU6LBD9QIHv6eT/b0hftGlM= ; Message-ID: <20050109004729.26464.qmail@web50310.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.116.131.252] by web50310.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:47:29 CST Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:47:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Jorge Mario G." To: dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1105191697.41dfe311aea10@webmail.uoi.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Plans about GIANT-LOCK, SMP performance ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:47:30 -0000 --- dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr escribió: > Dear users, > Does anybody know what are the plans, > for locking mechanism like GIANT-LOCK in > future 5.3 Releases? I have heard from many > people that this GIANT-Locking mechanism > is not the best thing to have! Some said > that it may be replaced. Some also said that > it won't. > > 1:) What are the plans about it? > > 2:) How does this affect performance? > > 3:) Which is version is best for an Opteron QUAD? > 4.10 Release or > 5.X Release ??? > > Thanks in advance! > D.K. Hi there sir FreeBSD 5.3 has nmost subsitems giant-free, so if you have a SMP box 5.3 is the way to go... you'll see a lot of performance improvements!!! Jorge Mario G. 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Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 00:53:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B27D16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:53:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0C243D46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:53:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4CC38566E; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:23:18 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:23:18 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Der Message-ID: <20050109005318.GS88329@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050109013552.CB71.MAILINGLIST@ms94.url.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k0QEB357i8jZX4tx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050109013552.CB71.MAILINGLIST@ms94.url.com.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I can't get anything from mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:53:22 -0000 --k0QEB357i8jZX4tx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, 9 January 2005 at 1:36:24 +0800, Der wrote: > I was join this list yestoday, and I can't get anything from mailing > list. =20 Did you get your confirmation that you're signed up? > Is it due to time zone ?? No. > Or what?? Difficult to say. My guess would be that something went wrong with the registration, or that your ISP is dropping the mail. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --k0QEB357i8jZX4tx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4IB+IubykFB6QiMRAnWyAKC0DScucm59uBMlRxIUKFsgId14HwCfThP4 X1eekcGn7veI5Xffi/WDyn0= =t6Q1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k0QEB357i8jZX4tx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 01:03:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B224016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:03:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D4B43D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:03:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@rcn.com) Received: from 207-237-110-41.c3-0.crm-ubr4.crm.ny.cable.rcn.com ([207.237.110.41] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1CnRU7-0000da-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:03:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:03:14 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: Gerard@FreeBSD.ORG, Seibert@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <20050108193359.A9B2.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.12.01 [en] Subject: DMA and CDROM Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard-seibert@rcn.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:03:12 -0000 I am running FreeBSD 5.3. I have it presently loaded on an older Compaq 5140 computer. For some unknown reason, I am having a problem getting DMA turned on for my CDROM drive. I am also receiving an error message regarding the 'slave'. I had FreeBSD 5.2.1 loaded previously and never received any such warning message. In addition, the DMA was initiated at bootup with the same entries I now have in the 'LOADER.CONF(5)' fiie. I reformatted the HD prior to installing the new version, so I do not believe that the problem lies there. Here is my 'dmesg' output: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Fri Dec 24 20:16:07 EST 2004 ges@budman.rcn.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUDMAN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (397.33-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x651 Stepping = 1 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 402653184 (384 MB) avail memory = 384331776 (366 MB) npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pir0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0x50000000-0x53ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) rl0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0x41200000-0x412000ff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci0 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:40:6d:e1 isab0: at device 20.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x24a0-0x24af,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 20.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x2480-0x249f irq 11 at device 20.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: MOUSE SYSTEM U+P RF Mouse Receiver, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. pci0: at device 20.3 (no driver attached) cpu0 on motherboard orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/15 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) sbc0: at port 0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 3,1 on isa0 sbc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: on sbc0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) sio4: at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio4: type 16550A Timecounter "TSC" frequency 397331943 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 7665MB [15574/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ata1-slave: FAILURE - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE status=1 error=4 acd0: DVDROM at ata1-master PIO4 afd0: REMOVABLE at ata1-slave BIOSPIO Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a I am able to turn on DMA for the drive using the 'atacontrol(8)'. I have not had success getting the DMA initiated using the /boot/loader.conf file however. This is my 'loader.conf' file: snd_ess_load="YES" hw.ata.ata_dma=1 hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 hw.ata_wc=1 I have tried using parenthesis around the numbers as well, but the results are the same. I am open to any suggestions. Thanks! Gerard E. Seibert gerard-seibert@rcn.com Only in America... Tim Allen, comedian, had this to say about Martha Stewart: "Boy, I feel safer now that she's behind bars. O. J. & Kobe are walking around, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook, clean, and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 01:14:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E3116A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:14:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBE843D48 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:14:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so75107wra for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:14:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=F9I2mrVZNnYSqPuN//1nW3zAs6oUSKrJy3puQnfVYHJU/cnAnJ5E9PkA3ZdqNd/tqj8L2vF1AKWb9QYdciAg2k8MzEHNSt/cuO0oz5mGI1Ycp0uGHfh6QRiSpt4SbpXJQazPsxnGCKyUZzm7auSfokSJpKVBA56gDntOXggDCBY= Received: by 10.54.7.10 with SMTP id 10mr609801wrg; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.37.19 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:14:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19861fba05010817141977b96@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:14:48 +0100 From: J65nko BSD To: Lewis Thompson In-Reply-To: <20050109002355.GA3882@black.fajita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050109002355.GA3882@black.fajita.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet filtering with pf and gif tunnels. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: J65nko BSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:14:49 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:23:55 +0000, Lewis Thompson wrote: > Hi, > > I am wondering what sequence a packet goes through when it is passing > through a gif tunnel. I have the following interface and gif tunnel > (with the equivalent being on the same subnet at the other side): > > fxp0: a.a.a.a/24 > gif0: a.a.a.a -> a.a.a.b (192.168.0.1/32 -> 192.168.0.2/32) > > My question is really what order does the packet go pass through my > firewall (pf) in? i.e., is it: > > in on fxp0 from a.a.a.b to a.a.a.a > (unencapsulated) > in on gif0 from 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.1 > > or does it just magically ``appear'' on gif0 straight away? Now I write > it out I am assuiming that it passes through pf twice (first on fxp0 and > secondly on gif0); if this is in fact the case, what sensible rule might > I add to allow this encapsulated traffic from a.a.a.b? > > Currently I have pf configured as follows: > > pass all > > pass quick proto icmp > > block in on fxp0 > pass out on fxp0 keep state > pass in on fxp0 proto tcp from any to fxp0 port 22 keep state > > The reason I ask this question is that for my tunnel endpoints to ping > each other, a.a.a.a must be doing so (a.a.a.b has no firewall). > > Thank you, > > -Lewis Thompson. For some debugging strategies in a similar case with IPSEC see http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18601 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 01:16:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF67D16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:16:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F4143D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:16:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp247-7.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.247.7]) j091Gpuc083654; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:46:51 +1030 (CST) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: mess-mate , questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:46:51 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20050108153717.6864134a@eric.placeverte.home> In-Reply-To: <20050108153717.6864134a@eric.placeverte.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091146.51095.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: file roo large !! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:16:58 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:07 am, mess-mate wrote: > Hi list, > this is not new I think, but it is for me. > I've searching the net without concrete results. > So, I've copied from an ext3fs a backup file ( home.tar.bz2) > in my home dir. So long it's ok. > But now I've to cp or mv this file to a new ext3fs partition. > And I've an error message " File too large" and stops the transfer. > This file is about 24GB and 21GB are copied before the stop. > This data is very important for me. Are you sure you are posting to the correct mailing list. Ext3fs is basically a linux file system, while this is a FreeBSD list. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 01:25:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3A716A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:25:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao03.cox.net (lakermmtao03.cox.net [68.230.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BD143D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050109012543.TOZV2250.lakermmtao03.cox.net@localhost> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:39 -0500 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109012539.GA5042@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050106213433.GA1699@kongemord.krig.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050106213433.GA1699@kongemord.krig.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: dhclient: send_packet: Permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:25:44 -0000 I keep getting the message dhclient: send_packet: Permission denied I try sockstat | grep dhclient and get root dhclient 247 4 udp4 *:68 *:* root dhclient 247 6 dgram -> /var/run/log I utter psgrep dhclient and get root 247 0.0 1.0 1812 1284 ?? Ss 2:13PM 0:00.26 /sbin/dhclient rl0 I've tried setting up special rules in the firewall to catch the dhclient packets, and the firewall doesn't seem to be stopping them. The ipfw rules to pass the packets are allow udp from any 68 to 255.255.255.255 dst-port 67 out via rl0 allow udp from any 67 to 255.255.255.255 dst-port 68 in via rl0 "ipfw show" doesn't register any packets even when dhclient is complaining about not being able to send packets. I can get an IP address, no problem. From the messages log: dhclient: New IP Address (rl0): dhclient: New Subnet Mask (rl0): 255.255.254.0 dhclient: New Broadcast Address (rl0): dhclient: New Routers: But even with this, I'm still getting the Permissin denied message. The only DHCP configuration I've done is in the rc.conf file: ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" I'm not using inetd. This has been a problem starting with FBSD 4.4 through 4.8. and with my current system, 5.2.1. I'll upgrade to 5.3 in a month or so when I have the time, but the problem seems to occur on all versions. I've searched the archives and Googled extensively, and I can find messages from other people with the same problem, but I haven't found a solution. I used tcpdump to look at the UDP traffic through the bootp ports. About once an hour, my host would send a UDP packet out the bootpc port to the bootps port at the broadcast address. I would get a reply back from my ISP's router with the DHCP server's IP address. Shortly before it was time to renew the DHCP lease, my host started sending out a boatload of these broadcast packets, with no response from my ISP. This stopped at the time the old lease listed as the renew time. The only thing I received from the DHCP server IP address was an echo request packet, which I didn't respond to. In spite of the fact that there was no evidence of UDP traffic between my host and the DHCP server, my DHCP lease was renewed and my IP address was changed. That's the first time my IP address has been changed when I wasn't off line. Output from ipfw list: 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 00400 deny ip from 192.168.0.240/28 to any in via rl0 00500 deny ip from 68.230.190.0/23 to any in via xl0 00600 deny ip from any to 10.0.0.0/8 via rl0 00700 deny ip from any to 172.16.0.0/12 via rl0 00800 deny ip from any to 192.168.0.0/16 via rl0 00900 deny ip from any to 0.0.0.0/8 via rl0 01000 deny ip from any to 169.254.0.0/16 via rl0 01100 deny ip from any to 192.0.2.0/24 via rl0 01200 deny ip from any to 224.0.0.0/4 via rl0 01300 deny ip from any to 240.0.0.0/4 via rl0 01400 allow ip from any to any via xl0 01500 divert 8668 ip from any to any via rl0 01700 deny ip from 10.0.0.0/8 to any via rl0 01800 deny ip from 172.16.0.0/12 to any via rl0 01900 deny ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to any via rl0 02000 deny ip from 0.0.0.0/8 to any via rl0 02100 deny ip from 169.254.0.0/16 to any via rl0 02200 deny ip from 192.0.2.0/24 to any via rl0 02300 deny ip from 224.0.0.0/4 to any via rl0 02400 deny ip from 240.0.0.0/4 to any via rl0 02500 allow tcp from any to any established 02600 allow ip from any to any frag 02700 deny log tcp from any to any in via rl0 setup 02800 allow tcp from any to any setup 02900 allow udp from 68.230.186.138 to any dst-port 53 keep-state 03000 allow udp from any 123 to any dst-port 123 via rl0 03100 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3,4,8 out via rl0 03200 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0,3,4,11 in via rl0 03300 allow udp from any to any dst-port 33434-33523 out via rl0 03400 allow udp from any 68 to any dst-port 67 out via rl0 03500 allow udp from any 67 to any dst-port 68 in via rl0 03600 allow udp from any 68 to 255.255.255.255 dst-port 67 out via rl0 03700 allow udp from any 67 to 255.255.255.255 dst-port 68 in via rl0 03800 allow udp from any 68,67 to any dst-port 68,67 via rl0 65535 deny ip from any to any If I set up a specia deny all rule for UDP packets in IPFW (after rules allowing DNS, NTP, and traceroute and Windows ping), nothing triggers it. Nothing triggers the rules that I set up to allow the DHCP packets. Tcpdump doesn't show any UDP traffic between my host and the DHCP server. And yet dhclient is complaining that it doesn't have permission to send packets, and my DHCP lease is being renewed. Can anybody explain to me what is happening? Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 01:29:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC13516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:29:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out005.verizon.net (out005pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABF843D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:29:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out005.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109012934.UPZS28362.out005.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:29:34 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256A611605 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32627-05 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:29:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E8684115A4; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:29:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:29:33 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109012933.GD20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1105210740.1193.6.camel@localhost> <20050108220223.GB15324@31415926535.com> <1105230806.1193.9.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1105230806.1193.9.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out005.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:29:34 -0600 Subject: Re: Good image editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:29:35 -0000 On 01/08/05 07:33 PM, Trey Sizemore sat at the `puter and typed: > On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 17:02 -0500, Corey Bettenhausen wrote: > > Have you looked at the Gimp? > > /usr/ports/graphics/gimp > > http://www.gimp.org > > Yes, I use it as well. I like it, but for simple editing and looking at > pictures in an album-type format, I'm looking for a package like > pixie-plus or digikam (these don't work on my 5.3 box) Hmm. I noticed a graphics/pixie port as well. Near as I can tell, they're not related. Anyone know if one is more stable/featureful than the other? TIA Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Tip of the Day: Never fry bacon in the nude. [Correction: always fry bacon in the nude; you'll learn not to burn it] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 02:07:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF8E16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:07:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02AC43D46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:07:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005010902072001500n9hege>; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:07:20 +0000 Message-ID: <41E091B3.4070809@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:06:43 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Myles Landwehr References: <41E04ECA.80508@comcast.net> <41E07158.2010205@snaphat.com> In-Reply-To: <41E07158.2010205@snaphat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Makefile correction? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 02:07:21 -0000 Aaron Myles Landwehr wrote: > Sean wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I am trying to install gnuchess but when I start the build process >> it errors out as follows. >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> tardis# make install clean >> ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found >> ===> Found saved configuration for gnuchess-5.07 >> ===> Extracting for gnuchess-5.07 >> => Checksum OK for book_1.01.pgn.gz. >> /usr/ports/distfiles//gnuchess-5.07.tar.gz: No such file or directory >> tar: Error opening archive: Empty input file: Inappropriate file type >> or format >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/games/gnuchess. >> ---------------------------------------- > > > Hello, I attempted to install the port and recieved the same error as > you. The current makefile does not grab the gnuchess.tar.gz, whenever > WITH_OPENING_BOOK is specified, because EXTRACT_ONLY is misplaced > underneathe of that section. Comment out that EXTRACT_ONLY line and > underneathe the MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR line add the following two lines: > > DISTFILES= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}${EXTRACT_SUFX} > EXTRACT_ONLY= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}${EXTRACT_SUFX} > > I suppose someone should submit a patch for this... > -Aaron Myles Landwehr > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks Aaron, That did the trick. Questions however. The DISTFILES= statement you added is obviously different from the DISTFILES+= in the (WITH_OPENING_BOOK) section. Does the + symbol just mean in addition to the main file? I am guessing if I am correct in the + comment above that an 'EXTRACT_ONLY" statement is not needed because it is an additional file to the main? Looking at another Makefile, the gcompris2 one to be exact, I do not see an EXTRACT_ONLY line. I looked at two others and they also do not have an EXTRACT_ONLY line. This statement is only needed in certain circumstances, or there is more then one way to do the same thing? Thanks Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 02:57:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3307316A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:57:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C825543D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:57:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hpxchan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so644686wri for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:57:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=or1hf6rPoPJbPovZjz+mBCLn6RA5iNyn9M/JytPFGi48tWxM4ELlvzZ5wExduUcPkyaPqmArC0W20/Ti0rBE/icuDPLvediFC0nkVDmUiuzH2QOlxYT4Fwdf+YrnR1TdFvgmWxV1YZrAncbmr1C7M1AkV3qO0qrLUaFz4fNiLBs= Received: by 10.54.23.76 with SMTP id 76mr198718wrw; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:57:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.26.29 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:57:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f77d3330501081857204ef1d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:57:33 -0600 From: Chandler May To: Matthias Buelow In-Reply-To: <41E07B26.6020601@incubus.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6f77d33305010813224115f21c@mail.gmail.com> <41E0658B.5090603@incubus.de> <6f77d3330501081544339f1465@mail.gmail.com> <41E07B26.6020601@incubus.de> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript install error on 5.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chandler May List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 02:57:35 -0000 On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:30:30 +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > Chandler May wrote: > > > ./src/gdevl256.c:114: error: `G320x200x256' undeclared (first use in > > have you added any additional drivers, like "vgalib" in the dialog when > building the port? if so, then I'd first try it with the default > settings, unless you have a good reason to enable a particular driver > (in which case I'd file a problem report, if it then fails). > I did happen to add the vgalib and lvga256 drivers... how would I go about deleting records of the current progress, to restart the installation? Chandler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 03:00:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C7316A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:00:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C121843D58 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:00:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6FBF0512C9; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:00:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:00:09 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Sean Message-ID: <20050109030008.GA81179@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41E04ECA.80508@comcast.net> <20050108212642.GA803@xor.obsecurity.org> <41E0513A.4090301@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E0513A.4090301@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Makefile correction? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:00:11 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 04:31:38PM -0500, Sean wrote: > The two // in '/usr/ports/distfiles//gnuchess-5.07.tar.gz:' would not=20 > cause the 'No such file or directory' error? No, that's a NOP in UNIX.=20 Kris --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4J44Wry0BWjoQKURAiOyAKCZU2vvsuJTTDpYQhbnLx4spgBMIACeMii7 WDp2UBjEjiFIMDpNcd6nuIc= =BHkK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 03:00:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C16516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:00:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.ninjabucket.com (ninjabucket.com [65.174.56.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B3B43D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:00:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@snaphat.com) Received: from snaphat.com (pcp01483743pcs.frncht01.de.comcast.net [68.82.65.116]) by www.ninjabucket.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0930kXq082691; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:00:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aaron@snaphat.com) Received: from [192.168.100.49] (localhost [192.168.100.49]) by snaphat.com (8.13.2/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0930eDS029255; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aaron@snaphat.com) Message-ID: <41E09E58.1070202@snaphat.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:00:40 -0500 From: Aaron Myles Landwehr User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsh.lists@comcast.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, conrads@cox.net References: <41E04ECA.80508@comcast.net> <41E07158.2010205@snaphat.com> <41E091B3.4070809@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <41E091B3.4070809@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Makefile correction? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:00:59 -0000 Sean wrote: > Thanks Aaron, > > That did the trick. > Questions however. > The DISTFILES= statement you added is obviously different from the > DISTFILES+= in the (WITH_OPENING_BOOK) section. > Does the + symbol just mean in addition to the main file? Welcome Sean, I believe the '=+' symbol means an addition to the current distfiles. If there are multiple files than all of the distfiles need to be specified(including the main one). When WITH_OPENING_BOOKS is defined that makes multiple distfiles, because of the specific package required by opening books. > I am guessing if I am correct in the + comment above that an > 'EXTRACT_ONLY" statement is not needed because it is an additional > file to the main? The statement is needed, because EXTRACT_ONLY is telling 'make' to only attempt to extract the specified files. The second distfile isn't suppose to be unzipped; which, brings me to a certain realization that the EXTRACT_ONLY statement should be in the WITH_OPENING_BOOKS section; as it is only relevant when there are mulitple distfiles. I did a bit more research and realized my modification does not pass through 'portlint' without warnings; as the DISTFILES statement should not be used when only one distfile is needed(this occurs when WITH_OPENING_BOOKS is not used). I came up with a solution that passes through 'portlint' with flying colors. Just add: DISTFILES+= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}${EXTRACT_SUFX} to the WITH_OPENING_BOOKS section. I'll send this to the maintainer as well. > Looking at another Makefile, the gcompris2 one to be exact, I do not see > an EXTRACT_ONLY line. I looked at two others and they also do not have > an EXTRACT_ONLY line. > This statement is only needed in certain circumstances, or there is > more then one way to do the same thing? You are correct, the statement is only needed if one or more distfiles does not need to be unzipped. -Aaron Myles Landwehr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 03:03:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1578916A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:03:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0144243D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:03:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hpxchan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so645016wri for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:03:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=JVaYyQT1Ec6/AH4Q6qqexPxWcv8gcp8kExfFqERlKtcR3uYTTljIAqJUnlOInI9AYYLCpunhjVEMApXO+9ZKfbJ5hHO84ENaLHNckEmB8mx7njW1XOtAqeF4eH0rtpUgyo66iEYI45EeEeUxB2S3iauRaTpHYinDwCl3ZLDuG9g= Received: by 10.54.26.68 with SMTP id 68mr82204wrz; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.26.29 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:03:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f77d33305010819032afb0bec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:03:08 -0600 From: Chandler May To: Matthias Buelow In-Reply-To: <6f77d3330501081857204ef1d9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6f77d33305010813224115f21c@mail.gmail.com> <41E0658B.5090603@incubus.de> <6f77d3330501081544339f1465@mail.gmail.com> <41E07B26.6020601@incubus.de> <6f77d3330501081857204ef1d9@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript install error on 5.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chandler May List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:03:10 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:57:33 -0600, Chandler May wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:30:30 +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > > Chandler May wrote: > > > > > ./src/gdevl256.c:114: error: `G320x200x256' undeclared (first use in > > > > have you added any additional drivers, like "vgalib" in the dialog when > > building the port? if so, then I'd first try it with the default > > settings, unless you have a good reason to enable a particular driver > > (in which case I'd file a problem report, if it then fails). > > > > I did happen to add the vgalib and lvga256 drivers... how would I go > about deleting records of the current progress, to restart the > installation? > > Chandler > Never mind, I just deleted work and the ghostscript folder from distfiles... the installation is working now. So far so good - it has gotten farther than before, I think. Chandler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 03:04:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D65316A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:04:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mwde08la.mail2world.com (mw76.mail2world.com [66.28.189.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF86043D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:04:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthewshanley@littlesecretsrecords.com) Received: from mail pickup service by mwde08la.mail2world.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:52:47 -0800 auth-sender: mshanley@alum.rpi.edu Received: from 10.1.50.1 unverified ([10.1.50.1]) by mwde08la.mail2world.com with Mail2World SMTP Server, Sat 08 Jan 2005 18:52:46 -08:00 Message-ID: <41E09EA7.1030508@littlesecretsrecords.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:01:59 -0500 From: Matthew Shanley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041221) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2005 02:52:47.0725 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D15C9D0:01C4F5F6] Subject: linksys pcmpc100 using driver ed failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:04:10 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, I am trying to get a linksys pcmpc100 ethernet card working under a fresh installation of FreeBSD 5.3-Release #2. This is supposed to be supported using the ed driver. Going through /var/run/dmesg.boot I find that the card slots seem to be working: cbb1: at device 4.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 But then, towards the end of the file, there seems to be a failure loading the actual card: ed1: at port 0x100-0x11f irq 11 function 0 config 61 on pccard1 device_attach: ed1 attach returned 6 I think the failure of this device to load is confirmed by the fact that ifconfig ed1 up returns "interface ed1 does not exist" even though a line for ed1 is in rc.conf (but i might be confused about this step in the process). I have found nothing searching the web of the archives, so any help pointing me in the right direction would be wonderful. Also if this would be better posted to a different list that would be good to know. matt - -- Matthew Shanley little secrets records and stuff http://littlesecretsrecords.com/ E-mail: matthewshanley@littlesecretsrecords.com GnuPG Public Key ID: 0x4DA4915C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB4J6nIrtD7k2kkVwRAubRAJ0XnZxQ1E30KmGwvBhco25rj2QC6wCff1Gm 5fUYZvx8jayY3T9yNYXH9Uc= =90Hl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 03:38:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDEE16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:38:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A7243D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:38:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j093YwFB053526; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:34:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)j093YwbC053523; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:34:58 GMT (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:34:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Bob Hall In-Reply-To: <20050109012539.GA5042@kongemord.krig.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dhclient: send_packet: Permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:38:54 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Bob Hall wrote: > I keep getting the message > dhclient: send_packet: Permission denied I believe this is actually a bug/feature in dhclient, which is trying to send a packet from an IP address that it has a lease for, but isn't configured on the network interface. The IP stack says "no you don't", which dhclient carefully reports to the user. This would explain why you never see a packet stopped by the firewall -- it never gets that far. What you might want to do is run dhclient under ktrace to see which system call causes the problem, and perhaps confirm that the system call arguments are somewhat bogus. All of this isn't necessarily a functional bug, but telling the user about the error is frustrating for everyone, because not only is it hard to interpret, but there's really nothing you can do about it... (I find it very annoying when error messages exist that provide no hint to the user about what they should do, or worse, when the message is of no value to anyone except that it is confusing!) Robert N M Watson > > I try > sockstat | grep dhclient > and get > root dhclient 247 4 udp4 *:68 *:* > root dhclient 247 6 dgram -> /var/run/log > > I utter > psgrep dhclient > and get > root 247 0.0 1.0 1812 1284 ?? Ss 2:13PM 0:00.26 /sbin/dhclient rl0 > > I've tried setting up special rules in the firewall to catch the > dhclient packets, and the firewall doesn't seem to be stopping them. The > ipfw rules to pass the packets are > allow udp from any 68 to 255.255.255.255 dst-port 67 out via rl0 > allow udp from any 67 to 255.255.255.255 dst-port 68 in via rl0 > "ipfw show" doesn't register any packets even when dhclient is > complaining about not being able to send packets. > > I can get an IP address, no problem. From the messages log: > dhclient: New IP Address (rl0): > dhclient: New Subnet Mask (rl0): 255.255.254.0 > dhclient: New Broadcast Address (rl0): > dhclient: New Routers: > But even with this, I'm still getting the Permissin denied message. > > The only DHCP configuration I've done is in the rc.conf file: > ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" > I'm not using inetd. > > This has been a problem starting with FBSD 4.4 through 4.8. and with my > current system, 5.2.1. I'll upgrade to 5.3 in a month or so when I have > the time, but the problem seems to occur on all versions. > > I've searched the archives and Googled extensively, and I can find > messages from other people with the same problem, but I haven't found a > solution. > > I used tcpdump to look at the UDP traffic through the bootp ports. About > once an hour, my host would send a UDP packet out the bootpc port to the > bootps port at the broadcast address. I would get a reply back from my > ISP's router with the DHCP server's IP address. Shortly before it was > time to renew the DHCP lease, my host started sending out a boatload of > these broadcast packets, with no response from my ISP. This stopped at > the time the old lease listed as the renew time. The only thing I > received from the DHCP server IP address was an echo request packet, > which I didn't respond to. In spite of the fact that there was no > evidence of UDP traffic between my host and the DHCP server, my DHCP > lease was renewed and my IP address was changed. That's the first time > my IP address has been changed when I wasn't off line. > > Output from ipfw list: > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 > 00300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any > 00400 deny ip from 192.168.0.240/28 to any in via rl0 > 00500 deny ip from 68.230.190.0/23 to any in via xl0 > 00600 deny ip from any to 10.0.0.0/8 via rl0 > 00700 deny ip from any to 172.16.0.0/12 via rl0 > 00800 deny ip from any to 192.168.0.0/16 via rl0 > 00900 deny ip from any to 0.0.0.0/8 via rl0 > 01000 deny ip from any to 169.254.0.0/16 via rl0 > 01100 deny ip from any to 192.0.2.0/24 via rl0 > 01200 deny ip from any to 224.0.0.0/4 via rl0 > 01300 deny ip from any to 240.0.0.0/4 via rl0 > 01400 allow ip from any to any via xl0 > 01500 divert 8668 ip from any to any via rl0 > 01700 deny ip from 10.0.0.0/8 to any via rl0 > 01800 deny ip from 172.16.0.0/12 to any via rl0 > 01900 deny ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to any via rl0 > 02000 deny ip from 0.0.0.0/8 to any via rl0 > 02100 deny ip from 169.254.0.0/16 to any via rl0 > 02200 deny ip from 192.0.2.0/24 to any via rl0 > 02300 deny ip from 224.0.0.0/4 to any via rl0 > 02400 deny ip from 240.0.0.0/4 to any via rl0 > 02500 allow tcp from any to any established > 02600 allow ip from any to any frag > 02700 deny log tcp from any to any in via rl0 setup > 02800 allow tcp from any to any setup > 02900 allow udp from 68.230.186.138 to any dst-port 53 keep-state > 03000 allow udp from any 123 to any dst-port 123 via rl0 > 03100 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3,4,8 out via rl0 > 03200 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0,3,4,11 in via rl0 > 03300 allow udp from any to any dst-port 33434-33523 out via rl0 > 03400 allow udp from any 68 to any dst-port 67 out via rl0 > 03500 allow udp from any 67 to any dst-port 68 in via rl0 > 03600 allow udp from any 68 to 255.255.255.255 dst-port 67 out via rl0 > 03700 allow udp from any 67 to 255.255.255.255 dst-port 68 in via rl0 > 03800 allow udp from any 68,67 to any dst-port 68,67 via rl0 > 65535 deny ip from any to any > > If I set up a specia deny all rule for UDP packets in IPFW (after rules > allowing DNS, NTP, and traceroute and Windows ping), nothing triggers > it. Nothing triggers the rules that I set up to allow the DHCP packets. > Tcpdump doesn't show any UDP traffic between my host and the DHCP > server. And yet dhclient is complaining that it doesn't have permission > to send packets, and my DHCP lease is being renewed. > > Can anybody explain to me what is happening? > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 06:07:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85AD16A4CE; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:07:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FCB43D49; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:07:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0967wj48882; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:07:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Robert Watson" , Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:07:58 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: dave@horsfall.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: RE: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:07:59 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Watson [mailto:rwatson@freebsd.org] > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 4:26 PM > To: Tm4528@aol.com > Cc: dave@horsfall.org; questions@freebsd.org; tedm@toybox.placo.com; > kris@obsecurity.org > Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance > > Entertainingly, at the company I work at, we only recently moved from > Windows NT 4 to Windows XP, despite the dramatic improvements in Windows > between those systems... dramatic improvements in XP over NT4? Robert, are you ill? ;-) Improvements, possibly, if your talking the eye candy on the interface, but NT4 is loads faster on the same hardware than XP is. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 06:23:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7573C16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:23:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0045643D2D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:23:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j096NFj48932; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:23:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <41DF9191.4070408@taborandtashell.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: Peter Risdon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Webmail Frontend to mailboxes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:23:47 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tabor Kelly [mailto:tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net] > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:54 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Peter Risdon; Colin J. Raven; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Webmail Frontend to mailboxes. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > 5) many issues with getting Apache mod-SSL running properly with a > > self-signed > > key (you have to generate it manually with openssl, the apache > docs that > > say use make key or whatnot don't work) > > I am not doubting you that this was an issue. But it is now documented > quite nicely in the mod_ssl faq As I said, gotchas that were serious EARLIER ON. > (http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html). Also (as a side note), I > use CAcert (http://www.cacert.org) for my key signing needs. > Pointless for us, as CAcert's root certificate isn't included in I.E., so the end users have to go through the same honky-tonk to include it in their browsers as if you just make your own certs. We use self-signed certs for a great many production items - e-mail webinterface, account stats, imaps, etc. basically anything that a password would go over. Never had a customer have a problem inserting our self-signed cert into their browser, never had any complaints about it either. Only thing we don't do is take credit card#'s online - not because of the SSL issues, but because our credit card processing software is so old that we would either have to pay $500 for an update to it, or the bank requires us to only take #'s by phone or in person. So far nobody here has thought up a good enough reason to pay a bank $500 for new software just to be able to do this when the old software runs fine. We kind of feel that since the bank is saving money by not having to manually process a pack of CC paper slips, that we shouldn't be the ones paying for software to help the bank save itself money, you know? Maybe if it was some other vendor than a bank.... Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 06:39:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034EA16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:39:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835AC43D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rajivk@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so652382wri for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:39:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=grPvLtVSHxaROj3/SJiqIhxhMNAPxkE9jyxyB+BIwCPwSAeIOjrZLOBxrdS+DmIAiYetUL91bwQBmcfliY+PfrpWbijJIIoaBQd1S9NDgUwpqMDPFGXY/0C6gqZZwMEMWFVQoUKHtLksjoDJ+ZFPpxKtSfIagll+BgbI9frpZx0= Received: by 10.54.51.30 with SMTP id y30mr286355wry; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.24.45 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:39:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <595ad514050108223910b29d9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:39:05 -0800 From: Rajiv Krishnamurthy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DNS problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rajiv Krishnamurthy List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:39:07 -0000 gentle people, apologies if this question should have been posted in the newbies list, but i saw a similar question in the archives of this mailing list, which did not quite answer my question. i'm trying to install FreeBSD for the first time. i'm installing it on my desktop. the installation has gone on pretty cleanly, i have a linksys firewall/wireless router behind which i have installed my freeBSD box. i have good connectivity and am able to ping, telnet to the internet. however DNS resolution is a problem. the browser does not work and for example dig www.freebsd.org also does not work. if i provide the nameserver,dig @server xxx.xxx.xxx - things are fine. any ideas. it has to be something really simple. during the configuration, when i configured my ethernet port, it cleanly gets the ip address from the linksys hub and also lists the nameserver correctly. what else do i have to configure ? ifconfig xl0 : flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=b inet6 fe80::250:daff:fe8c:dcaa%x10 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.1.105 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:50:da:8c:dc:aa media Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status:active plip0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 :: 1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 netstat -nr Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 0 x10 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 76 lo0 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 192.168.1.1 link#1 UHLW 1 0 xl0 192.168.1.105 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 0 lo0 192.168.1.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 0 2 xl0 /etc/resolve.conf is empty. /etc/hosts is empty. thanks rajiv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 06:40:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F4916A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:40:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A7B43D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:40:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j096aYFT056171; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:36:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)j096aYmY056168; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:36:34 GMT (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:36:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Tm4528@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: dave@horsfall.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: RE: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:40:27 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Entertainingly, at the company I work at, we only recently moved from > > Windows NT 4 to Windows XP, despite the dramatic improvements in Windows > > between those systems... > > dramatic improvements in XP over NT4? Robert, are you ill? ;-) > > Improvements, possibly, if your talking the eye candy on the interface, > but NT4 is loads faster on the same hardware than XP is. All I know is that the XP bits don't crash every week, they crash every three weeks. :-) My NT4 box crashed almost continuously. Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 06:57:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAE916A4D0 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:57:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skippyii.compar.com (ns1.compar.com [216.208.38.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6A943D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:57:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM000039c69a66.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.82.185])j09750Wl034799; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:05:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <011501c4f618$2501f5f0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Rajiv Krishnamurthy" , References: <595ad514050108223910b29d9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:55:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: DNS problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:57:19 -0000 > gentle people, > apologies if this question should have been posted in the newbies > list, but i saw a similar question in the archives of this mailing > list, which did not quite answer my question. > > i'm trying to install FreeBSD for the first time. i'm installing it on > my desktop. > > the installation has gone on pretty cleanly, i have a linksys > firewall/wireless router behind which i have installed my freeBSD box. > i have good connectivity and am able to ping, telnet to the internet. > > however DNS resolution is a problem. > > the browser does not work and for example > dig www.freebsd.org also does not work. > > if i provide the nameserver,dig @server xxx.xxx.xxx - things are fine. > any ideas. it has to be something really simple. > > during the configuration, when i configured my ethernet port, it cleanly > gets the ip address from the linksys hub and also lists the nameserver > correctly. > > what else do i have to configure ? > > ifconfig > xl0 : flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=b > inet6 fe80::250:daff:fe8c:dcaa%x10 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet 192.168.1.105 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:50:da:8c:dc:aa > media Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status:active > plip0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > inet6 :: 1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > > netstat -nr > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 0 x10 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 76 lo0 > 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 > 192.168.1.1 link#1 UHLW 1 0 xl0 > 192.168.1.105 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 0 lo0 > 192.168.1.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 0 2 xl0 > > /etc/resolve.conf is empty. You mean /etc/resolv.conf? This is where your nameserver should be listed if you're getting the information properly from your Linksys router. -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 07:00:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED82016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:00:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818D643D48 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:00:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD95423E6.dip.t-dialin.net [217.84.35.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FABA2F588; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:00:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E0D6A3.7050406@incubus.de> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:00:51 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chandler May References: <6f77d33305010813224115f21c@mail.gmail.com> <41E0658B.5090603@incubus.de> <6f77d3330501081544339f1465@mail.gmail.com> <41E07B26.6020601@incubus.de> <6f77d3330501081857204ef1d9@mail.gmail.com> <6f77d33305010819032afb0bec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6f77d33305010819032afb0bec@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript install error on 5.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:00:49 -0000 Chandler May wrote: > Never mind, I just deleted work and the ghostscript folder from > distfiles... the installation is working now. So far so good - it has > gotten farther than before, I think. You might want to file a PR that the port is broken with certain options (with sendpr, or via the web form at http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html). mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 07:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4176F16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mhultra.aero.org (mhultra.aero.org [130.221.88.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1405F43D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:46:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cal@rushg.aero.org) Received: from rushe.aero.org ([130.221.24.10] [130.221.24.10]) by mhultra.aero.org with ESMTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:45:57 -0800 Received: from calamari.aero.org (calamari.aero.org [130.221.26.26]) by rushe.aero.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j097ju217382; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from calamari.aero.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calamari.aero.org (8.12.11/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j097jUwm062280; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:45:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cal@calamari.aero.org) Received: (from cal@localhost) by calamari.aero.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j097jFfb062272; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:45:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cal) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:45:15 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Landauer Message-Id: <200501090745.j097jFfb062272@calamari.aero.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: cal@rush.aero.org cc: bzeeb+freebsd+sk4@zabbadoz.net Subject: sk0 driver problem and (with luck) approach to a fix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:46:00 -0000 hihi, all - i have a specific problem with a network interface, and i'm wondering what is the right venue for my question i have recently bought two new intel pentium 4 pcs (with hyperthreading, so that the SMP kernel works on them) and installed 5.3-RELEASE on them both, and the gigabit ethernet interfaces that came with the machines do not work (fast ethernet pci cards that i installed do work) - they both are: Marvell Yukon 88E8050 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (at least that is what i assume PCIe means) relevant output from pciconf -l -v: skc0@pci3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x3032107b chip=0x436111ab rev=0x17 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)' class = network subclass = ethernet relevant output from dmesg: skc0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xc8100000-0xc8103fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 skc0: unknown device! device_attach: skc0 attach returned 6 i snooped through some mailing lists about drivers (much thanx to zabbadoz) and read the code a few times and here is what i think is the problem: the chip ID (0x4361 above, the first half of "chip=") is not in the array sk_devs[] (though two other, presumably older, Marvell IDs are, and my two belkin gigabit ethernet pci cards, with the same sk driver, have codes that are in the array and do both work) i tried just adding the appropriate entry to the array, but that didn't work (i think i know why now - see below) i was pleasantly surprised to see a timely message on freebsd-annnounce (Subject "FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE Errata Notice: FreeBSD-EN-05:02.sk") discussing a number of changes that were needed in the sk driver to fix other known problems, and eagerly looked at the new source code but the new ID is still not there i am in the process of upgrading from 5.3-RELEASE to 5.3-STABLE, which will take some time (this is the first time i've tried to use a -STABLE branch, though I've been using freebsd from CDs since 2.1.5-RELEASE), and then i will make the same array addition and try that - what else should i be trying (to make my results most useful to the community)? i now see (in lines 1537-1554 of file if_sk.c v.1.83.2.2) that i missed one other place to add the new id (which like many things is quite obvious in retrospect): the switch in which the driver compares what it gets from the device to the array entries (that is also where it prints the "unknown device!" shown above, when it doesn't find the one it is looking for) - so i will try that (an dlook for other instances of the #define'd ID codes) and see if it works - if so, where should i distribute the results? it seems that the switch could be changed into a loop through the defined array entries, rendering its code independent of the specific array contents (and making the array the ONLY place new IDs need to go, unless there is changed functionality) - what considerations made that impractical (was it just the amount of time a loop takes? or what else?)? more soon, cal Dr. Christopher Landauer Aerospace Integration Science Center The Aerospace Corporation, Mail Stop M6/214 P.O.Box 92957 Los Angeles, California 90009-2957, USA cal@aero.org +1 (310) 336-1361 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 07:51:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389F116A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:51:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA76443D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:51:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD95423E6.dip.t-dialin.net [217.84.35.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDD02E62C; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:51:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E0E29A.3040801@incubus.de> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:51:54 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vulpes Velox References: <41DD5F25.3060101@att.net> <20050106154012.1665fc92@fennec.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <20050106154012.1665fc92@fennec.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Duane Winner cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xorg and xfree86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:51:54 -0000 Vulpes Velox wrote: > Xorg beat XFree86 out in regards of features in the newest release. And in regards of bugs. I've never seen so many random BadWindow errors when doing remote X than I have with X.org. Not even old DEC and HP R5 servers were so bugged. But of course stability is for bean counters... it's much more important to add heaps of new gizmos to support the latest Gn0m3 eyecandy extravaganza. mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 08:02:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6B716A4CE; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:02:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F280943D39; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:02:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B0E559B; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42451-10; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 386105582; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:10:04 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050109081004.386105582@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:10:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-12-19 - 2005-01-08 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:02:27 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 08:24:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B97016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:24:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801A843D2D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:24:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from [192.168.8.50] (ppp19-170.static.internode.on.net [150.101.19.170])j098OQBP047834 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:54:28 +1030 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:54:34 +1030 From: Shane Ambler To: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Unable to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:24:30 -0000 I have just installed 5.3 release on a machine I have just put together. Since installing I have tried to compile cvsup-without-gui and krb5 from ports and postgresql 8.0 rc3 from the src download. I started with cvsup-without-gui and after 16 hours I figured it was taking too long and started to look into things. I have installed readline and bison from ports without issue. It seems to get stuck in a loop - I have downloaded the cvsup-without-gui package and updated the ports and still get stuck. I have just done make clean make >> /var/debug/xxx.out For cvsup and krb5 and you can look at the full output from http://www.007Marketing.com/outputs.tgz In a nutshell it seems to get stuck somewhere along the way The following snippets seem to be roughly where it starts repeating and can be found repeated throughout the above mentioned output files. I seem to get gmake[1]: Leaving directory and gmake[1]: Entering directory With it leaving and entering the same dir. Does anyone know why this would happen and how to fix it? repeat from krb5 checking for ar... (cached) ar checking for working regcomp... (cached) yes updating cache ../.././config.cache configure: creating ./config.status cd . && /bin/sh config.status ./Makefile config.status: creating ./Makefile gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/security/krb5/work/krb5-1.3.6/src/util/pty' gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/security/krb5/work/krb5-1.3.6/src/util/pty' cd . && /bin/sh config.status --recheck running /bin/sh ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-shared --without-krb4 i386-portbld-freebsd5.3 CFLAGS=-O -pipe host_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd5.3 build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd5.3 target_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd5.3 CC=cc --cache-file=../.././config.cache --srcdir=. --no-create --no-recursion configure: loading cache ../.././config.cache checking for i386-portbld-freebsd5.3-gcc... (cached) cc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes repeat from cvs checking assembler instructions... filds fists checking assembler GOTOFF in data directives... yes checking assembler dwarf2 debug_line support... yes checking assembler --gdwarf2 support... yes checking assembler --gstabs support... yes checking linker PT_GNU_EH_FRAME support... yes checking whether linker eh_frame optimizations work properly... yes Using ggc-page for garbage collection. checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no updating cache ../config.cache creating ./config.status /bin/sh ../../gcc/gcc/configure.frag ../../gcc/gcc "m3cg" \ "" "../../gcc/gcc/config/t-slibgcc-elf-ver ../../gcc/gcc/config/t-freebsd ../../gcc/gcc/config/t-freebsd-thread ../../gcc/gcc/config/t-slibgcc-nolc-override ../../gcc/gcc/config/t-install-cpp" cp config.status config.run LANGUAGES="m3cg" /bin/sh config.run creating Makefile creating intl/Makefile creating fixinc/Makefile creating gccbug creating mklibgcc creating auto-host.h auto-host.h is unchanged rm -f config.run gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/language/modula3/m3compiler/m3cc/FreeBSD 4/gcc' gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/language/modula3/m3compiler/m3cc/FreeBSD 4/gcc' running /bin/sh ../../gcc/gcc/configure --build=i386-unknown-freebsd4 --host=i386-unknown-freebsd4 --target=i386-unknown-freebsd4 --srcdir=../../gcc/gcc --with-gcc-version-trigger=/usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/language/modul a3/m3compiler/m3cc/gcc/gcc/version.c --enable-obsolete --cache-file=../config.cache --no-create --no-recursion loading cache ../config.cache checking LIBRARY_PATH variable... ok checking GCC_EXEC_PREFIX variable... ok checking host system type... i386-unknown-freebsd4 checking target system type... i386-unknown-freebsd4 checking build system type... i386-unknown-freebsd4 checking for gcc... (cached) gcc -- Shane Ambler Sales Department 007Marketing.com Shane@007Marketing.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 08:42:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A839A16A4CE; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:42:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn12.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6742943D2D; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:42:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailinglist@ms94.url.com.tw) Received: from [221.169.112.158] (port=57168 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CnYew-000Fxa-6I; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:42:50 +0800 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:43:43 +0800 From: CryBaby To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20050109005318.GS88329@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050109013552.CB71.MAILINGLIST@ms94.url.com.tw> <20050109005318.GS88329@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-Id: <20050109161950.CF32.MAILINGLIST@ms94.url.com.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.12.01 [en] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I can't get anything from mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:42:51 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Did you get your confirmation that you're signed up? yes, I did. > > Or what?? > Difficult to say. My guess would be that something went wrong with > the registration, or that your ISP is dropping the mail. My Register Procedure: First, I Subscribe at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> Subscribing to freebsd-questions Second, I receive the "Confirmation of subscribe request" e-mail, and I visit the web page(http://.../freebsd-questions/CONFIRM_CODE) to confirm my register by push "Subscribe to list freebsd-questions" botton Third, I receive the "Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list" e-mail, and I can login to my personal management page What may be omitted by me ?? PS: thank your reply, Greg. : ) --- Der From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 08:53:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F2316A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417DA43D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willietheturtle@linuxmail.org) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])E0EF118001C8 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:53:46 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.86) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 9 Jan 2005 08:53:46 -0000 Received: by ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D88A823EE65; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:53:46 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [65.29.22.32] by ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com with http for willietheturtle@linuxmail.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:53:46 +0800 From: "william gatlin" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:53:46 +0800 X-Originating-Ip: 65.29.22.32 X-Originating-Server: ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:53:47 -0000 Hello,=20 =20 I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and trying = to get it to work. After figuring out=20 how to get an ISO image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted o= n modifying the file, I loaded it and=20 got a lot of error code 1 messages that I never did figure out. I changed = the partitioning and allowed 1/2 a gig=20 for the root directory and loaded it again.=20 =20 All seemed to go well untill I tryed to configure the X.org windowing syste= m. Nothing in /stand/sysinstall would=20 do any configuration of X. Went to the net and got instructions. Finally = got X to work and found vidtune.=20 =20 Kdm comes up with a log in screen which just leads to another log in screen= . ctrl-alt-backspace won't turn x off=20 as it keeps comming back on it's own. Nothing leads to a window manager ot= her than the little one that comes with=20 X.=20 =20 I re-downloaded the window managers from the net and hoped that would fix i= t. It didn't. I'm sure that the trouble=20 is in some little config file somewhere or another but I just don't have t= he time as I need a running system=20 going.=20 =20 My opinion is that x.org isn't integrated quite well enough yet for prime t= ime. My BSD books don't have the new=20 commands and other information to be of any use and the Man pages that down= loaded were of no help either.=20 =20 So for now I'm going to try to load Slackware and hope that maybe in a year= BSD will be easier to wade through. I=20 have to admit a bit of sorrow in having to do this as I wanted them both on= the same machine.=20 =20 At the same time I wish to communicate my respect and admiration for the gr= eat job the BSD community is doing and=20 hope in no way to communicate any disregaurd for everyones efforts.=20 =20 Right now I have to have Windows up and running also and am watching it go = into a self destruct mode from somthing=20 that it downloaded from the net all by it's self with no human operator tou= ching it. There are so many Popups I=20 had to pull the net cable just to stop it. They don't get no respect.=20 =20 It is my hope that the various Windows emulators will/are working well enou= gh to run some of my mission critical=20 programs. Espesially 'Trade Station' . I can't imagine having thousands o= f dollars riding on Microsoft=20 reliability.=20 =20 Thank You--------Bill Gatlin=20=20=20 --=20 ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org=20 This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:05:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6AA16A4D4 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:05:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC34C43D48 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:05:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so73802wri for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:05:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=P+gszGxB0sLv1qPNMmLIwMz/PFjb6nEhdr3EKyTbbZyp2vJHqbEHCHUcGGBOmqGC7WHQ7V5F4qZyOQ2+TQdor+MXnx2y/k3jQpYeP44rrTH9SWHTqJLssKuVwfRX7+y8O6/Ed641eqxPWld+ISkwRPX8x/F+7l41Ax2hMTqbPwI= Received: by 10.54.14.37 with SMTP id 37mr357390wrn; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.8 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:05:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf05010901053672f964@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:05:10 -0700 From: Jon Drews To: william gatlin In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:05:20 -0000 Hi Bill: Sorry you had such a miserable time with this. You may want to get either of these two books, as helps in installing and configuring FreeBSD. FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer, by Annelise Anderson Absolute BSD: The Ultimate Guide to FreeBSD by Michael Lucas and Jordan Hubbard On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:53:46 +0800, william gatlin wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and trying to get it to work. After figuring out > how to get an ISO image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying the file, I loaded it and From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:09:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AB716A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:09:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr (smtp3.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1E843D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:09:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0309.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BCF801C00351 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:09:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0309.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A0FD51C00350 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:09:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:09:27 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <109593615.20050109100927@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:09:29 -0000 Robert Watson writes: RW> All I know is that the XP bits don't crash every week, they crash every RW> three weeks. :-) My NT4 box crashed almost continuously. I have three machines, running FreeBSD, NT, and XP. All of them will run until I boot them. They don't crash, or at least I can't remember the last time I saw any of them crash (except for a hardware problem that was crashing FreeBSD until I replaced the hardware). All of these operating systems are rock stable when used and administered appropriately. I haven't had XP long enough to prove it, but NT and FreeBSD will run for years without a boot in many cases. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:13:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7116116A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:13:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF5843D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:13:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4E61B512C9; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:13:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:13:16 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <20050109091316.GA95260@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Unable to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:13:21 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 06:54:34PM +1030, Shane Ambler wrote: > I have just installed 5.3 release on a machine I have just put together. >=20 > Since installing I have tried to compile cvsup-without-gui and krb5 from > ports and postgresql 8.0 rc3 from the src download. >=20 > I started with cvsup-without-gui and after 16 hours I figured it was taki= ng > too long and started to look into things. >=20 > I have installed readline and bison from ports without issue. >=20 > It seems to get stuck in a loop - I have downloaded the cvsup-without-gui > package and updated the ports and still get stuck. >=20 > I have just done=20 > make clean > make >> /var/debug/xxx.out >=20 > For cvsup and krb5 and you can look at the full output from > http://www.007Marketing.com/outputs.tgz >=20 > In a nutshell it seems to get stuck somewhere along the way > The following snippets seem to be roughly where it starts repeating and c= an > be found repeated throughout the above mentioned output files. > I seem to get=20 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > and > gmake[1]: Entering directory > With it leaving and entering the same dir. Check your system clock. If it's stuck in the past you'll often see this kind of problem. Kris --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4PWsWry0BWjoQKURAgL2AJ46/8a5y1J1wgEKELERgLEYECPePACg885+ PWjrzzlBHCn9uqIzI02FnfY= =wYOD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:25:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD06E16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:25:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C75543D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:25:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])j099PbP9082421 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:25:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id j099PbRl082418 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:25:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:25:37 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109012537.A79965@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <109593615.20050109100927@wanadoo.fr> X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 1755E22 Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:25:39 -0000 > FreeBSD will run for years without a boot in many cases. Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have to recompile your kernel? :) Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:31:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE1516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:31:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F9F43D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:31:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0305F1FFACD; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:31:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id AEF461FFACA; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:31:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix, from userid 1060) id B42CC15511; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12181550C; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:30:38 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net To: Chris Landauer In-Reply-To: <200501090745.j097jFfb062272@calamari.aero.org> Message-ID: References: <200501090745.j097jFfb062272@calamari.aero.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: bzeeb+freebsd+sk4@zabbadoz.net Subject: Re: sk0 driver problem and (with luck) approach to a fix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:31:08 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Chris Landauer wrote: Hi, ... > Marvell Yukon 88E8050 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Adapter ... > relevant output from pciconf -l -v: > > skc0@pci3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x3032107b chip=0x436111ab rev=0x17 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > relevant output from dmesg: > > skc0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xc8100000-0xc8103fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 > skc0: unknown device! > device_attach: skc0 attach returned 6 ... I have added following patch http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/patchset/EXPERIMENTAL/if_sk-marvell-88e8050-id.diff with the contents on what you already (should) have done/described. It's pretty much straight forward. Changing more logic (switch case,..) is not done because of other changes going on there atm. If the driver will work for your card with the above patch is unknown because nobody tested and noone I know has specs from Marvell. But you might be quite lucky with it. Please let me know the results of your tests and I will continue to handle this. -- Greetings Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:39:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4D716A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:39:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail.uoi.gr (webmail.uoi.gr [195.130.120.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68AD43D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:39:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr) Received: from webmail.uoi.gr (localhost [127.0.0.1])j099dlNP010329 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:39:48 +0200 Received: (from wwwrun@localhost) by webmail.uoi.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j099dlXx010328 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:39:47 +0200 Received: from vdp027.pam01.gwc.hol.gr (vdp027.pam01.gwc.hol.gr [194.30.213.59]) by webmail.uoi.gr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:39:47 +0200 Message-ID: <1105263587.41e0fbe3a4f4c@webmail.uoi.gr> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:39:47 +0200 From: dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050109033923.360FC16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050109033923.360FC16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 194.30.213.59 Subject: modem in FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:39:51 -0000 Hallo everybody! I have a modem which works fine with Linux. It is a soft modem which works with some Conexant HSF drivers! Is there any way to make it work under FreeBSD 4.10 as well? Maybe using Linux Compatibility or some stuff like that? Did anyone managed do achieve something similar? Thanks in advance! D.K. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:46:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A6F16A4CE; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:46:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn12.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7F043D5C; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:46:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailinglist@ms94.url.com.tw) Received: from [221.169.112.158] (port=57117 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CnZej-000NSr-BS; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:46:41 +0800 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:47:42 +0800 From: Der To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20050109005318.GS88329@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050109013552.CB71.MAILINGLIST@ms94.url.com.tw> <20050109005318.GS88329@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-Id: <20050109174721.A437.MAILINGLIST@ms94.url.com.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.12.01 [en] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I can't get anything from mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:46:43 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Did you get your confirmation that you're signed up? yes, I did. > > Or what?? > Difficult to say. My guess would be that something went wrong with > the registration, or that your ISP is dropping the mail. My Register Procedure: First, I Subscribe at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> Subscribing to freebsd-questions Second, I receive the "Confirmation of subscribe request" e-mail, and I visit the web page(http://.../freebsd-questions/CONFIRM_CODE) to confirm my register by push "Subscribe to list freebsd-questions" botton Third, I receive the "Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list" e-mail, and I can login to my personal management page What may be omitted by me ?? PS: thank your reply, Greg. : ) --- Der From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:48:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4CF16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:48:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0939743D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:48:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j099mKj49554 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:48:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:48:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <109593615.20050109100927@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:48:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 1:09 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance > > > Robert Watson writes: > > RW> All I know is that the XP bits don't crash every week, they > crash every > RW> three weeks. :-) My NT4 box crashed almost continuously. > > I have three machines, running FreeBSD, NT, and XP. All of them will > run until I boot them. They don't crash, or at least I can't remember > the last time I saw any of them crash (except for a hardware problem > that was crashing FreeBSD until I replaced the hardware). > > All of these operating systems are rock stable when used and > administered appropriately. I haven't had XP long enough to prove it, > but NT and FreeBSD will run for years without a boot in many cases. > Agreed, but this depends on what your doing with NT4. If your an ISP and your running NT4 or 2K or one of the Microsoft server platforms as a virtual host server for customers to use, then it is going to get stuffed up at least once every 3-4 months and have to be rebooted. And if a customer is writing their own ASP code then watch out! Crashes may occur daily! We know this from experience and we have several MCSE's on staff and run the stuff on Compaq Proliants, we know how to admin Microsoft products. Generally in an internal corporate setting where little changes on the server, once you have one of the Windows server platforms properly setup, as long as your using brand-name hardware, they will run for a long time without trouble. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:53:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9BE16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:53:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr (smtp3.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADA143D53 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:53:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BE79E1C0057D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:53:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A4C691C00577 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:53:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:53:14 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <139201652.20050109105314@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050109012537.A79965@logik.ath.cx> References: <109593615.20050109100927@wanadoo.fr> <20050109012537.A79965@logik.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:53:15 -0000 Mark writes: M> Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have M> to recompile your kernel? :) Usually once when I first install the OS, then never again (unless I change something in the hardware, which I hardly ever do). Windows often has to be rebooted just to install a new application (although that's a problem with the application, not a problem with the OS, in most cases). But neither FreeBSD nor NT-based versions of Windows (which includes XP) crash on their own in the absence of hardware problems or buggy, privileged, third-party code (I'm thinking specifically of Windows device drivers here). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 10:07:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C5016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:07:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr (postfix4-2.free.fr [213.228.0.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D5E43D2D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:07:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from eric.placeverte.home (lns-vlq-7-lil-82-254-200-77.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.200.77]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 65D522A01C4 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:07:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:07:48 +0100 From: mess-mate To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109100748.5a696381@eric.placeverte.home> In-Reply-To: <200501091146.51095.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> References: <20050108153717.6864134a@eric.placeverte.home> <200501091146.51095.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: file roo large !! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:07:40 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:46:51 +1030 Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:07 am, mess-mate wrote: > > Hi list, > > this is not new I think, but it is for me. > > I've searching the net without concrete results. > > So, I've copied from an ext3fs a backup file ( home.tar.bz2) > > in my home dir. So long it's ok. > > But now I've to cp or mv this file to a new ext3fs partition. > > And I've an error message " File too large" and stops the transfer. > > This file is about 24GB and 21GB are copied before the stop. > > This data is very important for me. > > Are you sure you are posting to the correct mailing list. > Ext3fs is basically a linux file system, while this is a FreeBSD list. > > Malcolm > I do :) It's a FreeBSD problem. I've installed 5.3 and had to get data from a linux box. This data must be returned from the FBSD box. Thanks for the answers. I'll try it. mess-mate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 10:10:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDA016A4E1 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:10:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EE543D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:10:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j09A91j50033; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "william gatlin" , Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:09:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:10:25 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of william gatlin > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:54 AM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: I quit > > > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 > and trying to get it to work. > > My opinion is that x.org isn't integrated quite well enough yet > for prime time. My BSD books don't have the new > commands and other information to be of any use and the Man pages > that downloaded were of no help either. > Your problem is your under the mistaken assumption that you are supposed to be downloading ISOs and such in order to get a non-Windows desktop. Probably your not an IT professional and coming at this from an end user perspective. If that is the case then you want to quit fooling around with downloading FreeBSD or Slackware or some baloney like that, and go oout and BUY something like a Dell Precision n series 1 workstation with Red Hat Linux preloaded on it. $959, a great deal. Or, if your a cloner, go to your local chop-shop and buy one of their Linux preloads. Fry's Electronics even sells cheap ones of these for about $200 on sale at times. THOSE are the non-Windows, non-Apple solutions that the computer industry has created for people like you and believe me, they are VERY 'ready for prime time' If you find this insulting I would suggest you consider that your last machine you bought undoubtedly came with MS Windows preloaded on it - are you insulted by that? The ISO images that you download over the Internet are for techies who WANT to learn how the system really works "underneith". They LIKE IT when things break down because how do you learn anything if you don't have to fix a few problems? They are NOT for people who just want a solid reliable system so they can run "Trade Station". For people like you who want to do that, you are supposed to purchase your computer with Linux preloaded on it - Microsoft would say exactly the same thing, although they would say to buy a machine with Windows preloaded on it. > > Right now I have to have Windows up and running also and am > watching it go into a self destruct mode from somthing > that it downloaded from the net all by it's self with no human > operator touching it. There are so many Popups I > had to pull the net cable just to stop it. They don't get no respect. > > It is my hope that the various Windows emulators will/are working > well enough to run some of my mission critical > programs. Espesially 'Trade Station' . I can't imagine having > thousands of dollars riding on Microsoft > reliability. > http://www.vmware.com/download/ VMware Workstation 4.5 Download the eval and find out. If it works you purchase it and get support. Even better than the real Windows where you purchase it and don't get support - you have to keep purchasing that in addition, too. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 10:41:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E0E16A4D1; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:41:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn16.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5BA43D39; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:41:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailinglist@ms94.url.com.tw) Received: from [221.169.112.158] (port=57146 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CnaVc-000PkF-92; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:41:20 +0800 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:41:26 +0800 From: CryBaby To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20050109005318.GS88329@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050109013552.CB71.MAILINGLIST@ms94.url.com.tw> <20050109005318.GS88329@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-Id: <20050109184109.E4EB.MAILINGLIST@ms94.url.com.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.12.01 [en] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I can't get anything from mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:41:21 -0000 I found the answer. I register again by using the other account on my host, and I success ! :)))))) --- Der From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 10:47:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F2A16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:47:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from guri.is.scarlet.be (guri.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB9443D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:47:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from (u81-11-157-145.adsl.scarlet.be [81.11.157.145]) by guri.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j09AlMC01630 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:47:22 +0100 From: FreeBsdBeni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:45:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart13646220.veLvTiZ7xX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501091145.50267.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Subject: can't re-use a leaf (BusType) ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:47:26 -0000 --nextPart13646220.veLvTiZ7xX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I'm trying to use the ndis-wrapper to get my Z-Com XG-602MB (802.11g) mini-= pci=20 wi-fi card working. Got the ndis part going : compiled the .inf and .sys=20 stuff, added the needed lines to my kernel, added the lines=20 to /boot/loader.conf. But now I see in my dmesg the following error lines := =20 "can't re-use a leaf".=20 Searching the list archive showed something about adding "device puc" to th= e=20 kernel, with the supported cards in /sys/dev/puc/pucdata.c, but my card isn= 't=20 in the list... :-( Would adding this to my kernel solve this ? localhost kernel log messages: > FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 #27: Thu Jan =A06 21:24:47 CET 2005 > avail memory =3D 515633152 (491 MB) > ndis0: mem 0xfa400000-0xfa401fff irq 16 = at=20 device 0.0 on pci2 > can't re-use a leaf (BusType)! > ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 > ndis0: init handler failed > device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6 =2D-=20 =46reeBsdBeni. --nextPart13646220.veLvTiZ7xX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB4Qte98oeEzEDrEcRAnYPAJ9RB3fis9KFMPTJ0LxAKnChqoDYpACdG5QZ /6g/u11aM8PTDCUuggVK2nQ= =qSpQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart13646220.veLvTiZ7xX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 10:53:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8308316A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E52943D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j09Arjj50149; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:53:45 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1105206300.683.368.camel@Mobile1.276NET> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: In reference to the "Cheap NAS" inquiry.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:53:47 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Martes > Wigglesworth > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:45 AM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: In reference to the "Cheap NAS" inquiry.... > > > I am researching the viability of constructing a Network Access Server > using FreeBSD, Martes, You will have a lot better luck buying a used US Robotics HyperARC or some such to use as a terminal (modem) server. These take a PRI which allows you to serve 56K. If you only have need of a few ports, buy something like a Perle 8331S Access server http://www.perle.com/products/prod_family/access_servers/833_is.html or a CommPlete 4000 server http://www.multitech.com/PRODUCTS/Families/CommPlete4000/ which you can sometimes find used ones like here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1484&item=5740567438& rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V These devices take ISDN BRIs and allow V.90 dialin to them. And since they have no moving parts they are much more robust than any PC solution. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 10:55:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF7116A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:55:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1343D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A43F1FFACD; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:55:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 3AF3A1FFACA; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:55:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix, from userid 1060) id 2FCA21550C; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2411F15384; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:54:34 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net To: Chris Landauer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <200501090745.j097jFfb062272@calamari.aero.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: bzeeb+freebsd+sk4@zabbadoz.net Subject: Re: sk0 driver problem and (with luck) approach to a fix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:55:09 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Chris Landauer wrote: > ... > > Marvell Yukon 88E8050 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Adapter > ... > > relevant output from pciconf -l -v: > > > > skc0@pci3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x3032107b chip=0x436111ab rev=0x17 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)' > > class = network > > subclass = ethernet > > > > relevant output from dmesg: > > > > skc0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xc8100000-0xc8103fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 > > skc0: unknown device! > > device_attach: skc0 attach returned 6 > ... > > I have added following patch > http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/patchset/EXPERIMENTAL/if_sk-marvell-88e8050-id.diff had been told that this will only make the phy 'work' but there are other problems. Someone else seems to work on it but I don't know anything more beyond that yet. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 11:45:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B7916A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:45:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E6E43D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39263FD01F; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:45:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E1195E.8010800@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:45:34 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: william gatlin References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:45:42 -0000 william gatlin wrote: > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and trying to get it to work. After figuring out > how to get an ISO image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying the file, I loaded it and > got a lot of error code 1 messages that I never did figure out. I changed the partitioning and allowed 1/2 a gig > for the root directory and loaded it again. > > All seemed to go well untill I tryed to configure the X.org windowing system. Nothing in /stand/sysinstall would > do any configuration of X. Went to the net and got instructions. Finally got X to work and found vidtune. > > Kdm comes up with a log in screen which just leads to another log in screen. ctrl-alt-backspace won't turn x off > as it keeps comming back on it's own. Nothing leads to a window manager other than the little one that comes with > X. I sounds like you have started X by setting xdm on in /etc/ttys, I would recommend you not to do that first time you start up X but rather use startx. To get the console, press crtl-alt-F1, X is normally on F9. To understand a bit about how X works: When X starts your session, it will look for the file .xinitrc in your home directory and execute the programs listed, if you have no .xinitrc the default system file is used: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc Usually only your windows manager is listed. Once the last program in .xinitrc exists, X terminates your session. If you started X by setting xdm on in /etc/ttys, X gives you a new login promt, otherwise you will return to the console. So, it may not be X, but your window manager that is screwed, maybe you have a core-dump file in your home directory - that would indicate it. If you use startx instead and X crashes for whatever reason, you should have some error output on the console you can post here on the list. To see if it's your window manager, try a different one, I like fluxbox because it's lightweight. gnome/kde are quite heavy. Just try this before you give up on FreeBSD. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 11:48:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF61916A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:48:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.ITB.ac.id (backup-mx.ITB.ac.id [167.205.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EBE43D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:48:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dikshie@ppk.itb.ac.id) Received: from mx4.itb.ac.id (mx4.itb.ac.id [167.205.1.69]) by mx2.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with SMTP id 49CF17462D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:48:28 +0700 (WIT) Received: from ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id (ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id [167.205.30.228]) by mx2.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C55E7461E for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:48:28 +0700 (WIT) Received: by ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43BC8114B0; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:48:11 +0700 (WIT) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:48:11 +0700 From: Dikshie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109114811.GA4254@ppk.itb.ac.id> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: (FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386) X-Uptime: 6:42PM up 10:14, 1 user, load averages: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 X-Organization: Pusat Penelitian Kelautan (PPK) X-Location: Labtek VI Building, Institute of Technology, Bandung, Indonesia X-Web-Site: http://ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id/~dikshie X-Yahoo-ID: dikshie X-GnuPG-Key: http://ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id/gpg/ X-FingerPrint: 19AC 2592 1394 6C96 BABB 9060 50B8 D244 88E3 B55D Subject: cannot get raid5 UP using vinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:48:26 -0000 Dear Members, Can someone tell me why I cannot get my raid5 UP using vinum. I'm using FreeBSD-5.3-STABLE. /etc/vinum.conf: drive alpha device /dev/ad1s1d drive beta device /dev/ad2s1d drive theta device /dev/ad3s1d volume raid5 plex org raid5 512k sd length 68698510k drive alpha sd length 68698510k drive beta sd length 68698510k drive theta vinum list: 3 drives: D alpha State: up /dev/ad1s1d A: 8204/75292 MB (10%) D beta State: up /dev/ad2s1d A: 8204/75292 MB (10%) D theta State: up /dev/ad3s1d A: 8204/75292 MB (10%) 1 volumes: V raid5 State: down Plexes: 1 Size: 131 GB 1 plexes: P raid5.p0 R5 State: init Subdisks: 3 Size: 131 GB 3 subdisks: S raid5.p0.s0 State: empty D: alpha Size: 65 GB S raid5.p0.s1 State: empty D: beta Size: 65 GB S raid5.p0.s2 State: empty D: theta Size: 65 GB vinum printconfig: drive alpha device /dev/ad1s1d drive beta device /dev/ad2s1d drive theta device /dev/ad3s1d volume raid5 plex name raid5.p0 org raid5 1024s vol raid5 sd name raid5.p0.s0 drive alpha plex raid5.p0 len 137396224s driveoffset 265s pl exoffset 0s sd name raid5.p0.s1 drive beta plex raid5.p0 len 137396224s driveoffset 265s ple xoffset 1024s sd name raid5.p0.s2 drive theta plex raid5.p0 len 137396224s driveoffset 265s pl exoffset 2048s ad0,ad1,ad2,ad3 devices are Seagate Baraccuda 80GB ATA100 7200RPM. thanks ! -dikshie- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 11:54:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7079E16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:54:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay1-f21.bay1.hotmail.com [65.54.245.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E10543D2D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:54:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zaimietzm@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:54:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 202.156.2.114 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:53:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.156.2.114] X-Originating-Email: [zaimietzm@hotmail.com] X-Sender: zaimietzm@hotmail.com From: "[ kambing ] zaimie" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:53:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2005 11:54:00.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[E87008A0:01C4F641] Subject: apache.. i can view my index.html on my LAN but not others outside my LAN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:54:01 -0000 i've read all the faqs, handbook and manual i currently have this problem i installed FreeBSD 5.3 Release on one of my systems in my LAN network And installed Apache 1.3.3 i did the config and did apachectl start i opened up port 80 on my router and link it to the FreeBSD system However.. i can view the index.html but not others outside my LAN network It states Server not found.. How do i let others outside of my LAN to view the index.html thingy in /usr/local/www/data/ Thx _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN Hotmail alerts on your mobile. http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=uuhp_hotmail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 12:08:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E9116A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:08:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B344343D46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:08:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nohuman@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so663656wri for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 04:08:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fFWm3LJ6vpJZuF/mX8dPLK8sR7mBEFRhALvqBL7s5Y7l0t74Ky+Ekto9oNU8pwTnhSR7tGj2dtUTPY8Zb+IfFQ0DtYV3axW4zlo2A+NVDqD1cxAvRFXsr6BdB/FRiTqiXQX9U3wi5ZlYE3y01MRNdVtt5Mfug1Uum1l6LbsbsvA= Received: by 10.54.52.11 with SMTP id z11mr315420wrz; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 04:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.31.60 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 04:08:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5e51d2fd050109040866950144@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:08:22 +0100 From: Thomas Beer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: asynchronous packet loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thomas Beer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:08:24 -0000 Hi, I'm dealing with this issue since six weeks or so with no avail or a clear source of failure. So this may be my last chance. I have a 5.2.1 R Wifi access point on a Netgear MA 311 and two clients. I tested this with different versions of firmware. One client, a 5.3 B-7 has no problems in both directions for TCP/IP traffic.The second is a XP-SP2 laptop. If I ping from the XP to the 5.2.1 R i get 0% Packet loss. The other way around will have a packet loss of appr. 70% at the same time. Further more drops the packet loss to appr. 10-20% if there is huge traffic on the segment (i.e. copying some MB etc.). Any help is highly appreciated Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 12:11:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59CE16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:11:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web-17.seeweb.it (web-17.seeweb.it [212.25.166.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C795643D1F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:11:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matteo@tilde.it) Received: from [80.181.46.141] (host141-46.pool80181.interbusiness.it [80.181.46.141]) by web-17.seeweb.it (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id j09BsgK26235; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:54:42 +0100 Message-ID: <41E12D56.3050904@tilde.it> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:10:46 +0000 From: Matteo Santori User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[ kambing ] zaimie" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache.. i can view my index.html on my LAN but not othersoutside my LAN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:11:09 -0000 Are you sure the machine which is running apache in visible from outside? example gw (public ip) -> pc-lan1 (private) -> pc-lan2/apache (private) if you are not doing port redirecting on 80, ppl connecting to you from outside will watch the port 80 on your gw (which is close). Then, I suggest to redirect icoming connection on 80 on your machine running apache. You can do it in serval ways, just check what do u use and prefer. Hope this help, Greets, Matteo [ kambing ] zaimie wrote: > i've read all the faqs, handbook and manual > > i currently have this problem > > i installed FreeBSD 5.3 Release on one of my systems in my LAN network > And installed Apache 1.3.3 > i did the config and did apachectl start > i opened up port 80 on my router and link it to the FreeBSD system > However.. i can view the index.html > but not others outside my LAN network > It states Server not found.. > How do i let others outside of my LAN to view the index.html thingy in > /usr/local/www/data/ > > Thx > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get MSN Hotmail alerts on your mobile. > http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=uuhp_hotmail > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 12:27:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452D216A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:27:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F16743D54 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])j09CR3P9078986 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 04:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id j09CR31l078984 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 04:27:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 04:27:03 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109042703.A78038@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 16129E06 Subject: RE: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:27:05 -0000 > The ISO images that you download over the Internet are for techies > who WANT to learn how the system really works "underneith". They > LIKE IT when things break down because how do you learn anything > if you don't have to fix a few problems? I can definitely see this. I run five or six small servers at home to provide a few services for the house and friends nearby. They run a mixture of Open+FreeBSD. I spent a good week taking the system apart, removing things, tweaking scripts etc. On the eigth day, they were all running nicely and locked up tighter than a ducks arse. I was left twiddling my thumbs. I contemplated logging into a few of them and typing random commands as root so I might have something to fix. I suggest you run your machine with a precariously balanaced glass of orange juice on it at all times. It will lessen the chances of you being afflicted with this terrible, and above all, dull, syndrome. 0.02 sterling Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 12:53:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670B816A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:53:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail.idea-anvil.net (idea-anvil.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14F343D54 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:53:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) Received: from mail.Idea-Anvil.net (vaio [10.0.0.99]) by jail.idea-anvil.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j09CraWp071605; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 05:53:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) From: James Jhai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 05:53:35 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501090553.35986.james@idea-anvil.net> cc: willietheturtle@linuxmail.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:53:38 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 01:53 am, william gatlin wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and trying to get it to work. After figuring out > how to get an ISO image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying the file, I loaded it and > got a lot of error code 1 messages that I never did figure out. I changed the partitioning and allowed 1/2 a gig > for the root directory and loaded it again. Remember when you first started using windows? It probably took you a good year to get a decent feel for how to use it. FreeBSD will be much quicker... we really do have a kick-ass support system. You can install into a partition that small, but it would be better to setup at least 3Gb and do a full install. This will allow you access to all the options, docs, man pages, ports, etc.. Seeing as how hard drives are very cheep now, it would be worth getting another one if you must keep windows and you don't have the space. The head aches you will save your self by installing everything on the FreeBSD cd will be worth the $50+ bucks you spend. As you get to know FreeBSD better you will have a better idea of what you don't want/need. You can install everything into one partition, though its recommended to make a few different partitions: For a full install this would be a decent guideline: / 200mb /var 200mb-500mb /usr 2gb+ (anything new installed from ports or pkg_add will install into this /dir/ so give it all the space you can spare swap 2x the ram (NOTE: you can also make a swapfile (the handbook has a step-by-step on this, see below for handbook location) Also you might want to creat a seperate partition for /usr/home and /etc so if you ever need to do a full reinstall, all settings will be stored on these partitions. Another option is to just do backups of these directories if you don't want to mess with the partitions. > > All seemed to go well untill I tryed to configure the X.org windowing system. Nothing in /stand/sysinstall would > do any configuration of X. Went to the net and got instructions. Finally got X to work and found vidtune. > To configure xorg from the command line you'll want to use: xorgcfg > Kdm comes up with a log in screen which just leads to another log in screen. ctrl-alt-backspace won't turn x off > as it keeps comming back on it's own. Nothing leads to a window manager other than the little one that comes with > X. > > I re-downloaded the window managers from the net and hoped that would fix it. It didn't. I'm sure that the trouble > is in some little config file somewhere or another but I just don't have the time as I need a running system > going. Most config files (%90+) are in 3 places: /etc/ (network wide config) /usr/local/etc/ (local system config) /usr/home/username/ (user specific stuff) The file you want is: /etc/ttys is the file Find a line like this and make sure its says "off" and not "on" ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/kdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure This will disable kdm and you will get a console login prompt after the system boots. After logining in to the console you can start xorg up with the command: startx For this to work you will need to add a line to /usr/home/username/.xinitrc ( ~/.xinitrc for short ) or you will get the default window manager. For kde add this to ~/.xinitrc: startkde Quick way to write this to the file: echo startkde > ~/.xinitrc If you don't have a desktop installed yet you will need to install it (sounds like you do if you have kdm starting up). as root do: pkg_add -r kde3 or cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3 make install clean The second option will take a looooong time (1-3 days) as it will download the source for everything and compile it! This is also assuming that you have a connection established to the internet. It sounded like you do. > My opinion is that x.org isn't integrated quite well enough yet for prime time. My BSD books don't have the new > commands and other information to be of any use and the Man pages that downloaded were of no help either. The man pages should have been installed when you installed the system, no need to download anything. man man The handbook is probably the best source of info if you want something that is a little easier to read, as manpages don't have a good index as of yet. If you installed it, it will be in: /usr/share/doc/handbook You will need a web browser as it is in html format, if you don't have xorg up and running, install lynx or links. They are command line web browsers. You will find them in the ports or you can: pkg_add -r lynx pkg_add -r links Then: cd /usr/share/doc/handbook man lynx lynx ./index.html You can also access the handbook from a link on: http://www.freebsd.org/ or directly from this email at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html > So for now I'm going to try to load Slackware and hope that maybe in a year BSD will be easier to wade through. I > have to admit a bit of sorrow in having to do this as I wanted them both on the same machine. Slackware was my first unix like os, FreeBSD is way better (imo), the ports system makes life much easier for installing/updating 3rd party software. Also fbsd is stabler then linux. Though linux seems to be a little more cutting edge as far as *some* hardware and a *few* desktop apps. Keeps this in mind, *BSD makes a better production system (server for mission critical stuff), Linux will allow you to run a *little* more hardware/software, but its not going to be as stable. > At the same time I wish to communicate my respect and admiration for the great job the BSD community is doing and > hope in no way to communicate any disregaurd for everyones efforts. > > Right now I have to have Windows up and running also and am watching it go into a self destruct mode from somthing > that it downloaded from the net all by it's self with no human operator touching it. There are so many Popups I > had to pull the net cable just to stop it. They don't get no respect. Windows is designed to go into self destruct mode, it so they can sell upgrades and new hardware. > It is my hope that the various Windows emulators will/are working well enough to run some of my mission critical > programs. Espesially 'Trade Station' . I can't imagine having thousands of dollars riding on Microsoft > reliability. Use vmware if you need to run windows apps. Never used "Trade Station", but what vmware does is allows you to run windows in a gui on your desktop. It will be a little slugish, so its not very good for games or sound/vidio editing software, but it should work fine for your trading software. Keep in mind you will have to install windows into vmware, so its going to take more hard drive space. You will also need space for any windows apps you install. Vmware uses a virtual drive that it will create. the Default is 4gb. Like I said in the start of this email, you will probably want to get another hard drive. It would be better then getting a whole new PC like someone else suggested :-p If worse comes to worse, everyone can always use another hard drive no matter what os they use. ;-) > Thank You--------Bill Gatlin Your welcome. Much success to you. -- - James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:11:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8328616A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:11:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail.idea-anvil.net (idea-anvil.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3077C43D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) Received: from mail.Idea-Anvil.net (vaio [10.0.0.99]) by jail.idea-anvil.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j09DBLIx071838 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:11:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) From: James Jhai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:11:21 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <41E12D56.3050904@tilde.it> In-Reply-To: <41E12D56.3050904@tilde.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501090611.21472.james@idea-anvil.net> Subject: Re: apache.. i can view my index.html on my LAN but not othersoutside my LAN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:11:22 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 06:10 am, Matteo Santori wrote: > Are you sure the machine which is running apache in visible from outside? > > example > > gw (public ip) -> pc-lan1 (private) -> pc-lan2/apache (private) > > if you are not doing port redirecting on 80, ppl connecting to you from > outside will watch the port 80 on your gw (which is close). Then, I > suggest to redirect icoming connection on 80 on your machine running apache. > You can do it in serval ways, just check what do u use and prefer. > Hope this help, > Greets, > > Matteo > > > > > > [ kambing ] zaimie wrote: > > > i've read all the faqs, handbook and manual > > > > i currently have this problem > > > > i installed FreeBSD 5.3 Release on one of my systems in my LAN network > > And installed Apache 1.3.3 > > i did the config and did apachectl start > > i opened up port 80 on my router and link it to the FreeBSD system > > However.. i can view the index.html > > but not others outside my LAN network > > It states Server not found.. > > How do i let others outside of my LAN to view the index.html thingy in > > /usr/local/www/data/ > > > > Thx > > Also check your firewall rules and make sure that they aren't blocking inncomming connections to port 80. If you are using ipfw you will need something like this in /etc/rc.firewall for the firewall section you are using: (snip from the client section of my rc.firewall) ... # Allow and log connection setup ${fwcmd} add pass log tcp from any to a.b.c.d 80 setup # Continue to allow already established connections ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to any established ... -- - James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:13:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C249816A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:13:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065c32.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065c32.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4DE43D4C for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:13:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyson@stanfordalumni.org) Received: from pool-141-156-192-87.res.east.verizon.net ([141.156.192.87] helo=phoenix.home) by pop-a065c32.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Cnct4-0000X5-00; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 05:13:42 -0800 From: Don Tyson To: "william gatlin" In-Reply-To: Message from "william gatlin" <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:13:41 -0500 Message-Id: cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: tyson@alumni.stanford.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:13:43 -0000 > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and trying to > get it to work. After figuring out There are a couple of other possibilities, too. One is to try 4.10, which still has the old X11 configuration tools, and does not load Xorg. The other is xandros linux --- www.xandros.com. Smooth install, elegant desktop (OK, it's still KDE, but slimmed down). Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:29:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A79D16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:29:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE41243D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:29:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a093.otenet.gr [212.205.215.93]) j09DSwWd026160; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:28:59 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j09DSt1F045231; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:28:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j09DSsnQ045230; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:28:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:28:54 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: william gatlin Message-ID: <20050109132854.GD44181@gothmog.gr> References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:29:03 -0000 On 2005-01-09 16:53, william gatlin wrote: > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO image, > windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying the > file, I loaded it and got a lot of error code 1 messages that I never > did figure out. I changed the partitioning and allowed 1/2 a gig for > the root directory and loaded it again. Netscape is acting silly. Avoid downloading ISO images with it. The ISO images are available through FTP, so you can use any plain good old FTP client[1] to get a copy of the images. [1] Even the command line "ftp" program that comes with Windows can be used, if you feel like doing so. You got past that though, so I assume you found a way to circumvent the Netscape bugs. The minimum size of the disk area you assign to FreeBSD depends on a lot of factors: the distribution you choose (base system parts), the extra packages you wish to install, the space you want to keep free for your own work, etc. For an X11 workstation, on which KDE or Gnome and/or a GUI development environment will be used, I recommend at least 8 GB these days. Disk space isn't so expensive anymore and having at least 3-4 GB of free space will allow > All seemed to go well untill I tryed to configure the X.org windowing > system. Nothing in /stand/sysinstall would do any configuration of X. > Went to the net and got instructions. Finally got X to work and found > vidtune. You should really, and I mean REALLY, print yourself a couple of the Handbook chapters before embarking on an installation. The instructions for installing FreeBSD, configuring it at post-install time, setting up X11, installing KDE or Gnome from the package collection, starting KDM and letting it fire up KDE instead of the plain but relatively archaic twm desktop, are all there. The absolutely _minimum_ set of chapters you should read and keep around while installing FreeBSD are: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html > Kdm comes up with a log in screen which just leads to another log in > screen. ctrl-alt-backspace won't turn x off as it keeps comming back > on it's own. Nothing leads to a window manager other than the little > one that comes with X. This is *EXACTLY* what kdm is supposed to do. It fires up X11 once for every 'session' you log into. > I re-downloaded the window managers from the net and hoped that would > fix it. It didn't. I'm sure that the trouble is in some little config > file somewhere or another but I just don't have the time as I need a > running system going. Downloading more stuff won't fix what you are using. Reading the documentation (i.e. the Handbook) will. Please do read it. Cheers, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:31:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC45716A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:31:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF0643D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:31:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aeder@list.ru) Received: from [82.179.204.50] (port=4399 helo=gateway.my.home) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CndAi-000Cyn-00; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:31:56 +0300 Received: from [10.0.1.5] (megagame.my.home [10.0.1.5]) by gateway.my.home (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j09DVpt2029605; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:31:53 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from aeder@list.ru) Message-ID: <41E1332B.3000504@list.ru> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:35:39 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?Q?=C0=EB=E5=EA=F1=E0=ED=E4=F0_=C4=E5=F0=E5=E2=FF=ED?= =?windows-1251?Q?=EA=EE?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1Okiy@list.ru References: <897029378.20050108012259@list.ru> In-Reply-To: <897029378.20050108012259@list.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:31:58 -0000 1Okiy@list.ru wrote: >Çäðàâñòâóéòå, questions. >Ïîäñêàæèòå.... > ÷òî áû ìíå âûéòè â èíåò, ÷åðåç ëîêàëêó ìíå íóæíî ñîçäàòü VPN óêàçàâ IP êîìïüþòåðà ê >êîòîðîìó îñóùåñòâëÿåòñÿ ïîäêëþ÷åíèå,ëîãèí, ïàðîëü >êàê ýòî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü â FReeBSD > > > > First of all, it's a English-speaking mailing list. Second, look at ports/net/pptpclient. At least it works for me in Degunino.net (Moscow). Also, you can take a look at www.degunino.net. Where is some examples how to configure VPN. Best regards, Alexander Derevianko. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:40:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E18516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:40:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from guri.is.scarlet.be (guri.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE8143D48 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:40:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from (u81-11-157-145.adsl.scarlet.be [81.11.157.145]) by guri.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j09DebC02020 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:40:37 +0100 From: FreeBsdBeni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:38:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1502629.PoabTE5Lys"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Subject: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:40:40 -0000 --nextPart1502629.PoabTE5Lys Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, How do I find what ip address I'm really having ?=20 My adsl modem/firewall gives me a dynamic private address : 192.168.1.101,= =20 which is what I see with an ifconfig. But how do I find the real (dynamic)= =20 address given to my modem by my provider ? I'm using 5.3-rel-p4. =2D-=20 Beni. --nextPart1502629.PoabTE5Lys Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB4TPz98oeEzEDrEcRAlXhAJ95Ekr5PcMpd4OaNJOXX0dJs4KIHwCeK8eF XzORhZcEw2u5zxZdrDkmHaw= =/+W2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1502629.PoabTE5Lys-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:46:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09C116A50F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:46:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B58843D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:46:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.108?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2005 13:46:42 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:46:42 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:46:43 -0000 Where are they? They don't seem to exist on my 5.3 system, and I can't find any trace of them in /usr/ports. pkg_add -r doesn't find them either. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:56:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807CE16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:56:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail.idea-anvil.net (idea-anvil.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D4B43D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:56:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) Received: from mail.Idea-Anvil.net (vaio [10.0.0.99]) by jail.idea-anvil.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j09DuAv3072702; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:56:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) From: James Jhai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:56:09 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501090656.09705.james@idea-anvil.net> cc: FreeBsdBeni Subject: Re: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:56:11 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 06:38 am, FreeBsdBeni wrote: > Hi, > > How do I find what ip address I'm really having ? > My adsl modem/firewall gives me a dynamic private address : 192.168.1.101, > which is what I see with an ifconfig. But how do I find the real (dynamic) > address given to my modem by my provider ? > I'm using 5.3-rel-p4. Most adsl gateways/modems have a web based configuration system, you should be able to access it from: http://192.168.1.1:80/ Look over the options and see if there is a "status" section, this will more then likely have the info you want. You really should get a static ip from your isp if you are going to be running a server, better would be a small block of them. You will also need to setup a static network and forward any ports from the dsl gateway to your freebsd box if you want to be able to access any services you are going to run. -- - James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 13:59:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C56716A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:59:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF9A43D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:59:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from genefaq@abac.com) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A793D1FF9103; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:59:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (AMarseille-151-1-12-209.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.122.202.209]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2DCF91FF97BA; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:59:27 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-270445735 Message-Id: From: The FAQchest Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:59:40 +0100 To: Mike Jeays X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:59:29 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-270445735 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed "Make ISO file system" Generates a file matching with ISO9660 specification and with various extensions, such as rock-ridge extensions to go beyond 9660 limitations (file names and folder nesting). I use mkisofs to create backups. Such files can be mounted using the "loop device". See this script. Rgds, Thierry On Jan 9, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Mike Jeays wrote: > Where are they? They don't seem to exist on my 5.3 system, and I can't > find any trace of them in /usr/ports. pkg_add -r doesn't find them > either. > --Apple-Mail-1-270445735 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0755; name="create_an_ISO_backup-IMAP.sh" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=create_an_ISO_backup-IMAP.sh #!/bin/bash # # Backup utility created by Thierry de Villeneuve to # generate an ISO9660 image to be burned on a CD-ROM # # Not Copyrighted material # # This software is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, whether # express or implied, including but not limited to any implied warranty of # satisfactory quality or fitness for a particular purpose, or of non- # infringement of any third party's proprietary rights. # # ########################### TVN standard CVS header ######################### # # $Id: create_an_ISO_backup-IMAP.sh,v 1.2 2002/06/07 21:51:27 thierry Exp $ # # $Revision: 1.2 $ # # $Source: /extra/cvs/thierrys/Shell/create_an_ISO_backup-IMAP.sh,v $ # # $Log: create_an_ISO_backup-IMAP.sh,v $ # Revision 1.2 2002/06/07 21:51:27 thierry # Tracked in CVS # # ############################################################################# # # # Created TVN, 24-Sep-99 # Upated TVN, 20-Mar-01 # # mkisofs version 1.13 minimum is required for this script. # GOODUSER=root MENAME=`basename $0` export DATESTMP=`date '+%Y%m%d'` export HOSTLONG=`hostname` export OSNAME=`uname -s` export MENAME=${MENAME%%.*} export HOSTSHRT=${HOSTLONG%%.*} export LOCKFILE=/var/tmp/$MENAME.lock export LOGFILE=/tmp/$MENAME.log export IMAGFILE=${1:-/extra/isoimages/$OSNAME"-"$HOSTSHRT"-IMAP-"$DATESTMP.iso} export TOID=rbc.automation@st.com export FROMID=rbc.automation@st.com export RELAY1=usx011.crn.st.com export RELAY2=rbmail.rbc.st.com whoiam=$(whoami) if [ $whoiam != $GOODUSER ]; then echo Needs to be run only by the user $GOODUSER exit 1 fi basedir=${IMAGFILE%/*} if [ ! -d $basedir ]; then echo "Error: Non existent $basedir. Quitting" exit 1 fi if [ -f $LOCKFILE ]; then echo "Error: Lock file found." echo " $MENAME is already running." echo " if you believe it's not true: delete $LOCKFILE" exit 1 fi if ( tty -s ); then echo "Job is detaching and running in background." fi # Detaching to background ( trap "cd /tmp; rm -f $LOCKFILE 1>&- 2>&-; exit" 0 1 2 3 15 umask 022 touch $LOCKFILE 1>&- 2>&- memdir=$(pwd) cd / # On this machine is loaded mkisofs v 1.13 date "+===start=== Creating `basename $IMAGFILE` on today %c" > $LOGFILE 2>&1 logger -t "$MENAME[$$]" "Creating ISOimage $IMAGFILE" >/dev/null 2>&1 rm -f $IMAGFILE 2>&- 1>&1 mkisofs -A "Backup system of $HOSTSHRT: $DATESTMP" \ -l -L -J -R -graft-points -hide-rr-moved -hide-joliet-trans-tbl \ -o $IMAGFILE -m core -m lost+found \ -x /var/spool/mail/thierryv -x /extra/imap/thierryv \ $HOSTSHRT/etc/=/etc \ $HOSTSHRT/var/spool/mail/=/var/spool/mail \ $HOSTSHRT/extra/imap/=/extra/imap >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 if [ ! -s $IMAGFILE ]; then date '+===done=== %c' >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 logger -t "$MENAME[$$]" "Failed creating ISOimage $IMAGFILE" >/dev/null 2>&1 cat $LOGFILE | /usr/local/bin/putmail.pl \ -s "Error generating backup ISO image on $HOSTSHRT for $DATESTMP" \ -t $TOID -f $FROMID -r $RELAY1 -r $RELAY2 >/dev/null 2>&1 else ls -al $IMAGFILE >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 chown nobody:nobody $IMAGFILE >/dev/null 2>&1 date '+===done=== %c' >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 logger -t "$MENAME[$$]" "done" >/dev/null 2>&1 fi cd $memdir exit 0 ) & exit 0 --Apple-Mail-1-270445735-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 14:03:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EED516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:03:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from guri.is.scarlet.be (guri.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACB043D1F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:03:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from (u81-11-157-145.adsl.scarlet.be [81.11.157.145]) by guri.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j09E38C06090 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:03:08 +0100 From: FreeBsdBeni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:01:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091501.30151.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Subject: Re: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:03:10 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 14:38, FreeBsdBeni wrote: > Hi, > > How do I find what ip address I'm really having ? > My adsl modem/firewall gives me a dynamic private address : 192.168.1.101, > which is what I see with an ifconfig. But how do I find the real (dynamic) > address given to my modem by my provider ? > I'm using 5.3-rel-p4. To be a little more clearer : I do not want to go to any website (like http://www.lawrencegoetz.com/programs/ipinfo/ and others) that can show it (it won't cause i'm using tor...) but I'm looking for a way via console or an option in ifconfig or whatever. Hope my question is a bit more clear with this ? Thx for any info ! -- FreeBsdBeni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 14:07:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922D416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:07:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xizor.is.scarlet.be (xizor.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CB543D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:07:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from (u81-11-157-145.adsl.scarlet.be [81.11.157.145]) by xizor.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j09E7AC21584 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:07:10 +0100 From: FreeBsdBeni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:05:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> <200501090656.09705.james@idea-anvil.net> In-Reply-To: <200501090656.09705.james@idea-anvil.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1839960.oc9JXAxIBM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501091505.33003.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Subject: Re: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:07:12 -0000 --nextPart1839960.oc9JXAxIBM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 09 January 2005 14:56, James Jhai wrote: > On Sunday 09 January 2005 06:38 am, FreeBsdBeni wrote: > > Hi, > > > > How do I find what ip address I'm really having ? > > My adsl modem/firewall gives me a dynamic private address : > > 192.168.1.101, which is what I see with an ifconfig. But how do I find > > the real (dynamic) address given to my modem by my provider ? > > I'm using 5.3-rel-p4. > > Most adsl gateways/modems have a web based configuration system, you shou= ld > be able to access it from: > > http://192.168.1.1:80/ > > Look over the options and see if there is a "status" section, this will > more then likely have the info you want. > > You really should get a static ip from your isp if you are going to be > running a server, better would be a small block of them. You will also ne= ed > to setup a static network and forward any ports from the dsl gateway to > your freebsd box if you want to be able to access any services you are > going to run. I can indeed access the Linksys modem directly and find out the address. Bu= t I=20 was hoping for a more direct or easier way to do it, if possible... =2D-=20 =46reeBsdBeni. --nextPart1839960.oc9JXAxIBM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB4Tos98oeEzEDrEcRAiQNAJ9P405eQLFFgvmUiCYm7lTBehMFjQCffcNp aNJ1iJavr/mrFSecfLCpIKc= =BH12 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1839960.oc9JXAxIBM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 14:09:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE6D16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:09:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D8D43D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:09:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from genefaq@abac.com) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (mail.domain.com [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E53921FFFCE2; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:09:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (AMarseille-151-1-12-209.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.122.202.209]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 667101FFFD3C; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:09:21 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <17922C6C-6248-11D9-A23B-000393932C94@abac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The FAQchest Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:09:35 +0100 To: Mike Jeays X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:09:23 -0000 Oops, forgot ... along the time, command line switches have changed from one version of mkisofs to another. And you can burn the ISO image onto a CD, provided it doesn't get bigger than the capacity of your CD-R media. The mount command is: #> mount myisoimagefile.iso /mnt/test -t iso9660 -o loop #> unmount /mnt/test Rgds, Thierry On Jan 9, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Mike Jeays wrote: > Where are they? They don't seem to exist on my 5.3 system, and I can't > find any trace of them in /usr/ports. pkg_add -r doesn't find them > either. > #!/bin/bash # # Backup utility created by Thierry de Villeneuve to # generate an ISO9660 image to be burned on a CD-ROM # # Not Copyrighted material # # This software is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, whether # express or implied, including but not limited to any implied warranty of # satisfactory quality or fitness for a particular purpose, or of non- # infringement of any third party's proprietary rights. # # ########################### TVN standard CVS header ######################### # # $Id: create_an_ISO_backup-IMAP.sh,v 1.2 2002/06/07 21:51:27 thierry Exp $ # # $Revision: 1.2 $ # # $Source: /extra/cvs/thierrys/Shell/create_an_ISO_backup-IMAP.sh,v $ # # $Log: create_an_ISO_backup-IMAP.sh,v $ # Revision 1.2 2002/06/07 21:51:27 thierry # Tracked in CVS # # ######################################################################## ##### # # # Created TVN, 24-Sep-99 # Upated TVN, 20-Mar-01 # # mkisofs version 1.13 minimum is required for this script. # GOODUSER=root MENAME=`basename $0` export DATESTMP=`date '+%Y%m%d'` export HOSTLONG=`hostname` export OSNAME=`uname -s` export MENAME=${MENAME%%.*} export HOSTSHRT=${HOSTLONG%%.*} export LOCKFILE=/var/tmp/$MENAME.lock export LOGFILE=/tmp/$MENAME.log export IMAGFILE=${1:-/extra/isoimages/$OSNAME"-"$HOSTSHRT"- IMAP-"$DATESTMP.iso} whoiam=$(whoami) if [ $whoiam != $GOODUSER ]; then echo Needs to be run only by the user $GOODUSER exit 1 fi basedir=${IMAGFILE%/*} if [ ! -d $basedir ]; then echo "Error: Non existent $basedir. Quitting" exit 1 fi if [ -f $LOCKFILE ]; then echo "Error: Lock file found." echo " $MENAME is already running." echo " if you believe it's not true: delete $LOCKFILE" exit 1 fi if ( tty -s ); then echo "Job is detaching and running in background." fi # Detaching to background ( trap "cd /tmp; rm -f $LOCKFILE 1>&- 2>&-; exit" 0 1 2 3 15 umask 022 touch $LOCKFILE 1>&- 2>&- memdir=$(pwd) cd / # On this machine is loaded mkisofs v 1.13 date "+===start=== Creating `basename $IMAGFILE` on today %c" > $LOGFILE 2>&1 logger -t "$MENAME[$$]" "Creating ISOimage $IMAGFILE" >/dev/null 2>&1 rm -f $IMAGFILE 2>&- 1>&1 mkisofs -A "Backup system of $HOSTSHRT: $DATESTMP" \ -l -L -J -R -graft-points -hide-rr-moved -hide-joliet-trans-tbl \ -o $IMAGFILE -m core -m lost+found \ -x /var/spool/mail/thierryv -x /extra/imap/thierryv \ $HOSTSHRT/etc/=/etc \ $HOSTSHRT/var/spool/mail/=/var/spool/mail \ $HOSTSHRT/extra/imap/=/extra/imap >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 if [ ! -s $IMAGFILE ]; then date '+===done=== %c' >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 logger -t "$MENAME[$$]" "Failed creating ISOimage $IMAGFILE" >/dev/null 2>&1 else ls -al $IMAGFILE >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 chown nobody:nobody $IMAGFILE >/dev/null 2>&1 date '+===done=== %c' >> $LOGFILE 2>&1 logger -t "$MENAME[$$]" "done" >/dev/null 2>&1 fi cd $memdir exit 0 ) & exit 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 14:18:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1388416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:18:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02E543D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:18:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from unixadmin99@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so669054wri for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Jl6MWPy8tpTnGb82zQSS4bgn1v5nQNeLrGHblEUrTYD0DUXIF0qE5th2DKi/erPtS8Kh4uSiZMndmgQxX4tlo840yDp3bn1VFCaCMbl5HgcEa+cRBq502yvFkG2eic/SSmMm1BWUW8iv8ibp15Ustz65xhU4YWdw//8dmiM5X+M= Received: by 10.54.23.76 with SMTP id 76mr369059wrw; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.37.29 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f6f39580501090618560b96c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:18:15 +0000 From: unixadmin99 To: william gatlin In-Reply-To: <20050109132854.GD44181@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <20050109132854.GD44181@gothmog.gr> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: unixadmin99 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:18:16 -0000 The FreeBSD Handbook is priceless. A lot of effort is put into making it as complete and accurate as possible. The next time you decide to install FreeBSD as a newuser, i suggest you read through the handbook at least once. Remember: The FreeBSD Community and the Handbook Team, to be specific, have done all the hardwork for you so you just have to follow the instructions and smile at the end. -- ~michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 14:48:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8646F16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:48:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3302743D46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:48:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so86384wri for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:48:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=snpxA/m4FIjD5m7ecCn7aYzKgOt85RjxDPCjR8FUeKUosx0G+98ETN90SgmPlk/KckN1lqBjzVL021c0BAGcCjxJvSFWK2tr9ELCGcRTlyq4G3/eUD+9b/z+WfUVD0HKhoH+ZtNA2qVhZGqz2/GaEJguYW78idS6ekEjdi6iahk= Received: by 10.54.42.62 with SMTP id p62mr444617wrp; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 06:48:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.62 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:48:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:48:09 -0600 From: Gable Barber To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make depend error - FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gable Barber List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:48:10 -0000 Howdy all, I am trying to build a new kernel to support the on board sound on my motherboard. When I try to " make depend " I get this error: make: don't know how to make depend. Stop Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Gable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 14:54:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13E416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:54:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDEE43D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CneSu-0001H4-Dr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:54:48 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501090854.55799.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc0c41465c4dc8adc27d8efc3776030ee6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:54:49 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 02:53 am, william gatlin wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying > the file, I loaded it and got a lot of error code 1 messages that I > never did figure out. I changed the partitioning and allowed 1/2 a > gig for the root directory and loaded it again. > > All seemed to go well untill I tryed to configure the X.org windowing > system. Nothing in /stand/sysinstall would do any configuration of > X. Went to the net and got instructions. Finally got X to work and > found vidtune. > > Kdm comes up with a log in screen which just leads to another log in > screen. ctrl-alt-backspace won't turn x off as it keeps comming back > on it's own. Nothing leads to a window manager other than the little > one that comes with X. > > I re-downloaded the window managers from the net and hoped that would > fix it. It didn't. I'm sure that the trouble is in some little > config file somewhere or another but I just don't have the time as I > need a running system going. > > My opinion is that x.org isn't integrated quite well enough yet for > prime time. My BSD books don't have the new commands and other > information to be of any use and the Man pages that downloaded were > of no help either. > > So for now I'm going to try to load Slackware and hope that maybe in > a year BSD will be easier to wade through. I have to admit a bit of > sorrow in having to do this as I wanted them both on the same > machine. > > At the same time I wish to communicate my respect and admiration for > the great job the BSD community is doing and hope in no way to > communicate any disregaurd for everyones efforts. > > Right now I have to have Windows up and running also and am watching > it go into a self destruct mode from somthing that it downloaded from > the net all by it's self with no human operator touching it. There > are so many Popups I had to pull the net cable just to stop it. They > don't get no respect. > > It is my hope that the various Windows emulators will/are working > well enough to run some of my mission critical programs. Espesially > 'Trade Station' . I can't imagine having thousands of dollars riding > on Microsoft reliability. > > Thank You--------Bill Gatlin "Prime Time", in it's truest sense, would suggest that FreeBSD is targetted at a mass market -- it is not. The mass market is not characterized, primarily, as thinkers. The FreeBSD user community would be better described as system users and administrators who enjoy technical aspects of computing; and who insist on controlling the operating system. I'm not trying to insult you, or suggest that you're not a thinker. I am trying to clear up any misconceptions about FreeBSD. The "strengths" of MS Windows lead to its weaknesses. The lack of those "strengths" in FreeBSD lead to a robust, stable operating system; but require more work on the part of the user --> no "loose nuts between the chair and the keyboard". (I can't remember where I first heard that phrase.) If you're looking for an easy (effortless) Windows replacement, I would suggest either Mac OSX or Xandros Linux. Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the applications you need. I talked my 11 year old nephew through an operating system upgrade (clean installation) of his ibook over the phone -- including wireless networking with WEP. Xandros Linux has an impressive installation process. Further, the Deluxe and Business versions come with CodeWeavers' CrossOver Office, which makes the installation of many Windows applications a breeze. See CodeWeavers' website for supported Windows applications: http://www.codeweavers.com/ Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 14:59:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397BA16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:59:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C81543D5E for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:59:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 24303 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2005 14:59:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.48]) ([pbs]775067@[213.54.39.177]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Jan 2005 14:59:23 -0000 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:58:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> In-Reply-To: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091558.38291.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> cc: Mike Jeays Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:59:25 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 14:46, Mike Jeays wrote: > Where are they? They don't seem to exist on my 5.3 system, and I can't > find any trace of them in /usr/ports. pkg_add -r doesn't find them > either. /usr/ports/sysutils/dvd+rw-tools/ contains growisofs, mkisofs is part of /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools. Regards Fabian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 15:10:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5057E16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:10:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D67E43D46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 13641 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2005 15:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.48]) ([pbs]775067@[213.54.39.177]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Jan 2005 15:10:07 -0000 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gable Barber Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:08:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091608.54098.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make depend error - FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:10:10 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 15:48, Gable Barber wrote: > Howdy all, > I am trying to build a new kernel to support the on board sound on my > motherboard. > > When I try to " make depend " I get this error: > > make: don't know how to make depend. Stop > > Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. Are you sure you're running make in the right directory? Nevertheless you might try building the Kernel the "New Way" as it is described in Regards Fabian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 15:10:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548C216A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:10:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D01943D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 13641 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2005 15:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.48]) ([pbs]775067@[213.54.39.177]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Jan 2005 15:10:07 -0000 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gable Barber Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:08:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091608.54098.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make depend error - FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:10:10 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 15:48, Gable Barber wrote: > Howdy all, > I am trying to build a new kernel to support the on board sound on my > motherboard. > > When I try to " make depend " I get this error: > > make: don't know how to make depend. Stop > > Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. Are you sure you're running make in the right directory? Nevertheless you might try building the Kernel the "New Way" as it is described in Regards Fabian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 15:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC3D16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:15:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1102443D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:15:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so550378rne for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:15:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=dRq/dz4521AGPvtD+jmMoD3ztP7dDSzJtMfVF5tVNOZn0w+nLjurSIvbpUZ7hTnh76985VwXzYwD7V3hmvsf4d2AF4MAdbePt23FGSXmb36ck3cPRr8+RjyKyF+a6+FEBTmcakp/zZ2mlR8VCm40LTHbhjaNvlfPKtlfkCm8f2U= Received: by 10.38.90.49 with SMTP id n49mr34301rnb; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 59sm270918rnb.2005.01.09.07.15.30; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:15:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Gable Barber'" , Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:45:16 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4F68C.1F1FD250" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcT2Wkunk+Uo32JqSf2ia6LTqj/DGgAA43bQ Message-ID: <41e14a94.1eaea18c.0ffd.183d@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: RE: make depend error - FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:15:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4F68C.1F1FD250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gable Barber > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 20:18 > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: make depend error - FreeBSD 5.2.1 > > Howdy all, > I am trying to build a new kernel to support the on board sound on my > motherboard. > > When I try to " make depend " I get this error: > > make: don't know how to make depend. Stop > > Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Gable > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Use the new way of building the kernel i.e. make buildkernel KERNCONF=my_kernel_config_file make installkernel KERNCONF=my_kernel_config_file Regards S. 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DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=XLVDyG+YDCFcep7U+XIF+DchrozHQg4e6F0ghRqNgq5ydyAmD9/ck4hLbtEmgjIPLwrP3ItOtFLsUQYr43jVwWuDA6Iyr4qR/tYQn7bqm4FSJoNNpjFmXbnb1Tw/eUPNBhGduzZ9KJ3sI/WFNMEcrTawC4NnXHU1DgMNplR6J9c= Received: by 10.54.3.32 with SMTP id 32mr626805wrc; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.62 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:16:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:16:08 -0600 From: Gable Barber To: Fabian Keil In-Reply-To: <200501091608.54098.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200501091608.54098.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make depend error - FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gable Barber List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:16:09 -0000 I reinstalled sources from sysinstall, and all works now.. Since this is the first one I have done, I wanted to learn the old way..then the new... Thanks for the help... Gable On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:08:53 +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: > On Sunday 09 January 2005 15:48, Gable Barber wrote: > > Howdy all, > > I am trying to build a new kernel to support the on board sound on my > > motherboard. > > > > When I try to " make depend " I get this error: > > > > make: don't know how to make depend. Stop > > > > Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. > > Are you sure you're running make in the right directory? > > Nevertheless you might try building the Kernel the "New Way" > as it is described in > > > Regards > Fabian > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 15:16:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E55016A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:16:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF94543D2D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:16:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so87628wri for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:16:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=XLVDyG+YDCFcep7U+XIF+DchrozHQg4e6F0ghRqNgq5ydyAmD9/ck4hLbtEmgjIPLwrP3ItOtFLsUQYr43jVwWuDA6Iyr4qR/tYQn7bqm4FSJoNNpjFmXbnb1Tw/eUPNBhGduzZ9KJ3sI/WFNMEcrTawC4NnXHU1DgMNplR6J9c= Received: by 10.54.3.32 with SMTP id 32mr626805wrc; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.62 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:16:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:16:08 -0600 From: Gable Barber To: Fabian Keil In-Reply-To: <200501091608.54098.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200501091608.54098.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make depend error - FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gable Barber List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:16:09 -0000 I reinstalled sources from sysinstall, and all works now.. Since this is the first one I have done, I wanted to learn the old way..then the new... Thanks for the help... Gable On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:08:53 +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: > On Sunday 09 January 2005 15:48, Gable Barber wrote: > > Howdy all, > > I am trying to build a new kernel to support the on board sound on my > > motherboard. > > > > When I try to " make depend " I get this error: > > > > make: don't know how to make depend. Stop > > > > Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. > > Are you sure you're running make in the right directory? > > Nevertheless you might try building the Kernel the "New Way" > as it is described in > > > Regards > Fabian > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 15:19:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B9516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:19:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sendmail.leela.ws (209-193-28-35-cdsl-rb1.jnu.acsalaska.net [209.193.28.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7902743D53 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:19:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([192.168.0.10]) by sendmail.leela.ws (8.12.7/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j09FJfNY004967; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:19:45 -0900 (AKST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 06:19:42 -0900 From: "Peter A. Giessel" To: Dikshie X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <20050109114811.GA4254@ppk.itb.ac.id> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Phone: 1 (907) 364-2219 Address: PMB 261, 617 W Willoughby Ave, 99801 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot get raid5 UP using vinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:19:48 -0000 On Sunday, 2005, January 9 at 2:48, dikshie@ppk.itb.ac.id (Dikshie) wrote: > >Dear Members, >Can someone tell me why I cannot get my raid5 UP using >vinum. I'm using FreeBSD-5.3-STABLE.=20 [snip] >1 plexes: >P raid5.p0 R5 State: init Subdisks: 3 Size: 131 G= B > >3 subdisks: >S raid5.p0.s0 State: empty D: alpha Size: 65 G= B >S raid5.p0.s1 State: empty D: beta Size: 65 G= B >S raid5.p0.s2 State: empty D: theta Size: 65 G= B from "man vinum" http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dvinum&sektion=3D8 init [-S size] [-w] plex | subdisk vinum init initializes a subdisk by writing zeroes to it. You can initialize all subdisks in a plex by specifying the plex name. This is the only way to ensure consistent data in a plex. You must perform this initialization before using a RAID-5 plex. It is also recommended for other new plexes. vinum initializes all subdisks of a plex in parallel. Since this operation can take a long time, it is normally performed in the background. If you want to wait for completion of the command, use the -w (wait) option. Specify the -S option if you want to write blocks of a different size from the default value of 16 kB. vinum prints a console message when the initialization is complete. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 15:57:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2496616A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:57:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7783843D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:57:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CnfRe-0007SG-00 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:57:34 +0100 Received: from 062249172002.customer.alfanett.no ([62.249.172.2]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:57:33 +0100 Received: from solskogen by 062249172002.customer.alfanett.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:57:33 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christer Solskogen Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:57:32 +0100 Organization: jduB Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <20050106142257.GA30323@math.jussieu.fr> <41DD8242.8090207@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 062249172002.customer.alfanett.no User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news Subject: Re: Create tgz packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:57:36 -0000 On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:24:02 +0100, albi wrote: > Albert Shih wrote: > >> Suppose I have two computer, one very fast and one very slow, I want >> compile some application (with ports) on the fast and put in slow computer. >> But I can not use some tar or rsync (hard to explain why but trust me I can) >> >> I want to create a tgz file and transfert it to slow computer to >> install. How can I do that or where can I find some documentation for that. > > example : > cd /usr/ports/audio/aumix > make package > > copy /usr/ports/audio/aumix/aumix-gtk-2.8_2.tbz to your slower machine > and use pkg_add on it Is there a easy way of making packages of all installed ports? (I guess it every port will get recompiled, but that doesnt matter to me.) -- cso Sow your wild oats on Saturday night - then on Sunday pray for crop failure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 16:17:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A147916A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:17:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0044143D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:17:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.108?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2005 16:17:07 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Fabian Keil In-Reply-To: <200501091558.38291.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> <200501091558.38291.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1105287426.624.23.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:17:06 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:17:08 -0000 On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 09:58, Fabian Keil wrote: > On Sunday 09 January 2005 14:46, Mike Jeays wrote: > > Where are they? They don't seem to exist on my 5.3 system, and I can't > > find any trace of them in /usr/ports. pkg_add -r doesn't find them > > either. > > /usr/ports/sysutils/dvd+rw-tools/ contains growisofs, > mkisofs is part of /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools. > > Regards > Fabian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks very much. They both installed fine once I was told where they are! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 16:28:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6564916A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:28:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26FD43D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:28:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j09GOX9e064352 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:24:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)j09GOXUs064349 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:24:33 GMT (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:24:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <109593615.20050109100927@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:28:27 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Robert Watson writes: > > RW> All I know is that the XP bits don't crash every week, they crash every > RW> three weeks. :-) My NT4 box crashed almost continuously. > > I have three machines, running FreeBSD, NT, and XP. All of them will > run until I boot them. They don't crash, or at least I can't remember > the last time I saw any of them crash (except for a hardware problem > that was crashing FreeBSD until I replaced the hardware). > > All of these operating systems are rock stable when used and > administered appropriately. I haven't had XP long enough to prove it, > but NT and FreeBSD will run for years without a boot in many cases. The problems I have on the Windows XP platform appear to come from a lack of robustness in the face of nasty application failure. At work we use Windows with the usual combination of Microsoft office and e-mail products, as well as tools like Acrobat. It seems things go horribly wrong in the interactions between the components (especially Acrobat integration into IE), and this leaves the system in a poor state (often wedged). Lower level OS bits keep responding to pings, but a hard boot is required to get anywhere useful. NT4 appeared a lot less robust with relatively frequent kernel crashes, whereas with XP my impression has been that the kernel itself is quite robust but the user shell and interface components are so tightly integrated with application behavior that application failure leaves them dead in the water. This is not disimilar to related failure modes on Mac OS X and using X11/KDE on BSD, and suggests maybe part of the problem is in the architecture of how we layer "system" applications over windowing mechanisms. Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 16:30:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC0D16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:30:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.metawire.org (openwire.metawire.org [66.101.226.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6AA43D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:30:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryanv@metawire.org) Received: from laptop.puffy (c-66-176-147-72.se.client2.attbi.com [66.176.147.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.metawire.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBABF326C3; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:30:06 -0500 (EST) From: ryanv@metawire.org To: Rajiv Krishnamurthy Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:29:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <595ad514050108223910b29d9d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <595ad514050108223910b29d9d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091129.49389.ryanv@metawire.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:30:16 -0000 I am no expert by any means, but the problem I was having sounds simular. I had a fresh install on friday, I could get to the web but dns resolutions were incredibly, slow and timing out most of the time. But my box is now working perfectly. #1 you dns nameservers addresses need to be in /etc/resolv.conf this still did not solve my problem but it should. I had to cvsup my /usr/src and rebuild my world and everything works perfectly. I do not know if something changed in the sources but it worked for me. On Sunday 09 January 2005 01:39, Rajiv Krishnamurthy wrote: > gentle people, > apologies if this question should have been posted in the newbies > list, but i saw a similar question in the archives of this mailing > list, which did not quite answer my question. > > i'm trying to install FreeBSD for the first time. i'm installing it on > my desktop. > > the installation has gone on pretty cleanly, i have a linksys > firewall/wireless router behind which i have installed my freeBSD box. > i have good connectivity and am able to ping, telnet to the internet. > > however DNS resolution is a problem. > > the browser does not work and for example > dig www.freebsd.org also does not work. > > if i provide the nameserver,dig @server xxx.xxx.xxx - things are fine. > any ideas. it has to be something really simple. > > during the configuration, when i configured my ethernet port, it cleanly > gets the ip address from the linksys hub and also lists the nameserver > correctly. > > what else do i have to configure ? > > ifconfig > xl0 : flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=b > inet6 fe80::250:daff:fe8c:dcaa%x10 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet 192.168.1.105 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:50:da:8c:dc:aa > media Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status:active > plip0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > inet6 :: 1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > > netstat -nr > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 0 x10 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 76 lo0 > 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 > 192.168.1.1 link#1 UHLW 1 0 xl0 > 192.168.1.105 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 0 lo0 > 192.168.1.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 0 2 xl0 > > /etc/resolve.conf is empty. > /etc/hosts is empty. > > thanks > rajiv. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 16:30:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240A716A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:30:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C7643D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:30:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j09GQV9q064383; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:26:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)j09GQQ8I064379; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:26:31 GMT (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:26:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Mark In-Reply-To: <20050109012537.A79965@logik.ath.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:30:28 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Mark wrote: > > FreeBSD will run for years without a boot in many cases. > > Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have to > recompile your kernel? :) The longest personal uptime I've had is just under two years, and that was for a UPS-backed natbox in my parents' basement. I updated the userspace remotely as needed, but never bothered to reboot it as there wasn't really a motivation for a kernel update given its environment (the user space updates were for things like sendmail vulnerabilities). At some point, the power went out for longer than the UPS could keep it up, so the uptime went tumbling down... I think it was up for about 540-550 days at that point. Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 16:35:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EF816A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:35:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B233543D4C for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:35:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (c-67-174-105-242.client.comcast.net [67.174.105.242]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j09GWTCq045538; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:32:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41E15D57.6020007@vilot.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:35:35 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041222) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Jeays References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> <200501091558.38291.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> <1105287426.624.23.camel@chaucer> In-Reply-To: <1105287426.624.23.camel@chaucer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:35:37 -0000 Mike Jeays wrote: >Thanks very much. They both installed fine once I was told where they >are! > My avenue of last resort is this: cd /usr/ports find . -type f -name pkg-descr | xargs grep -i where is what I remember the program name to be (cdrecord, etc) Also kinda handy if you have no idea what the name is but you know you want something like, say, "audio compression": cd /usr/ports/audio find . -type f -name pkg-descr | xargs grep -i compres From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 16:44:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D03A16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:44:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr (postfix4-2.free.fr [213.228.0.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB043D5E for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:44:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from eric.placeverte.home (lns-vlq-7-lil-82-254-200-77.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.200.77]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id ACD1E2A003E for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:44:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:45:01 +0100 From: mess-mate To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: copy file to cd-rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:44:54 -0000 Hi guys, I've to copy a large file to a cd-rw and have a little troubles with my 5.3 system now. Can you send me the exact way to do it ?? Sorry for this ignorance. Thanks in advance. mess-mate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 17:02:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C93E16A4DB for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:02:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E44B43D46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:02:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6CA4B4B1; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:02:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:03:06 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: FreeBsdBeni Message-ID: <20050109170306.GA1521@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:02:26 -0000 On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:38:56PM +0100, FreeBsdBeni wrote: > Hi, > > How do I find what ip address I'm really having ? > My adsl modem/firewall gives me a dynamic private address : 192.168.1.101, > which is what I see with an ifconfig. But how do I find the real (dynamic) > address given to my modem by my provider ? That's not as easy as it sounds, esp. if you're using NAT on the router. The config is basically this: +-----------+ 192.168.1.101 +--------+ A.B.C.D | Your_Host |---------------------| Router |--------//-+ +-----------+ 192.168.1.1 +--------+ | | | E.F.G.H +------------+ | ISP Router | +------------+ So basically, Your_Host has no way (and no need) to know A.B.C.D or E.F.G.H Now you could try a combination of traceroute(8) and ping(8) to get that address. For example, try the -R Record Route option to ping(8): % ping -R www.freebsd.org If your Router is configured to honor RR requests, it will list its A.B.C.D address in the reply, and ping will show it as the first RR-Record in the list of max. 9 route records that you can get out of the ICMP protocol spec. Another way to do this, is to enable a routing daemon on the router, and use some utility on Your_Host to listen to the routing updates, or even query those updates with SNMP. But not every router supports this option. Sometimes, you can also query the ISP Router directly, but that's also unreliable, since most ISPs block SNMP requests on the last mile for security reasons. You may as well try to get the info from the HTTP config managemnt interface of your router http://192.168.1.1:80/ or so. > I'm using 5.3-rel-p4. > -- > Beni. Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 17:05:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D6816A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:05:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12F43D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:05:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8EA2FA0000A5 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:05:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4C843A0000A3 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:05:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:05:49 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <103953715.20050109180549@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <109593615.20050109100927@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:05:52 -0000 Robert Watson writes: RW> The problems I have on the Windows XP platform appear to come from a RW> lack of robustness in the face of nasty application failure. A problem with the Windows environment as a whole is that applications tend to assume that they have the entire machine to themselves, and behave without any consideration for other programs that may be running on the same machine. In addition, Windows programmers (at least those with no experience outside of a PC environment) tend to vastly overused system calls and privileges that can destabilize the entire machine; many relatively mundane applications won't even install unless they can have privileges that they shouldn't really need. The net result is a far less stable platform than might otherwise be possible. It's all a consequence of the old MS-DOS paradigm, in which there is only one user and one program at a time, and any program can (and sometimes must) talk directly to the hardware and occasionally even override the OS. The NT family of operating systems corrected this in large part by introducing tight security concepts. But most Windows applications ignore or override these security features, making them moot. And Microsoft has aggravated the problem by removing or disabling features in NT versions such as Windows XP in order to increase compatibility and user-friendliness. Even NT 4.0 sacrificed security and stability just so that it could have a clone of the "modern" Windows 95 GUI. All of this is in contrast to UNIX, which, like so many other multiuser timesharing systems, has been obligated from the start to pay close attention to keeping users and programs separate. Ordinary UNIX user programs are aware of the fact that they are not alone and are written with security restrictions and the need for coexistence already in mind. In consequence, it's rare for a UNIX user program to do anything that destabilizes an entire system. Another way of looking at it is that, under Windows, practically every user program is the equivalent of a privileged daemon, potentially running roughshod over system stability. Having to support a GUI also destabilizes just about any system, and of course Windows depends on GUIs, although UNIX does not. RW> At work we use Windows with the usual combination of Microsoft RW> office and e-mail products, as well as tools like Acrobat. It seems RW> things go horribly wrong in the interactions between the components RW> (especially Acrobat integration into IE), and this leaves the system RW> in a poor state (often wedged). Lower level OS bits keep responding RW> to pings, but a hard boot is required to get anywhere useful. You're in a state where technically the system is up and running, and the OS is healthy, but the interaction and conflict between all the application programs you wish to run is so complex that any kind of error in one of them effectively stalls or kills them all. The only easy cure is a reboot. This is one argument against using application suites, as they are more likely to try to take over the machine and cause conflicts in consequence than are isolated, standalone applications. So Office or Lotus Notes is a lot more hazardous to run than some individual, free-standing application programs that make no assumptions about what else is on the machine. For this reason I'm very wary of installing anything from Microsoft these days, and only slightly less wary of companies like Adobe. They increasingly try to convert the entire PC to their own chosen environment during installation. RW> NT4 appeared a lot less robust with relatively frequent kernel RW> crashes, whereas with XP my impression has been that the kernel RW> itself is quite robust but the user shell and interface components RW> are so tightly integrated with application behavior that application RW> failure leaves them dead in the water. I didn't find NT to lack robustness, but I agree that XP and indeed all newer versions of Windows have confused the border between OS and applications so thoroughly that the net result is an overall destabilization of the machine. The extreme lack of transparency in Windows is a problem, too. You never really know what's going on behind the scenes. This is far less of a problem with legacy operating systems like UNIX that were designed to be fiddled with directly by administrators. RW> This is not disimilar to related failure modes on Mac OS X and using RW> X11/KDE on BSD, and suggests maybe part of the problem is in the RW> architecture of how we layer "system" applications over windowing RW> mechanisms. I completely agree. It's a general problem with any architecture of this kind (just installing a GUI is already a big step down the path of danger), but it's most obvious in the environments that depend most heavily on GUIs, such as Windows and the Mac. Of course, if you run a GUI on UNIX, you'll see similar problems there as well. To me it's too high a price to pay just for a pretty interface on a server. On a desktop the advantages of the GUI outweigh the reduction in stability, if the system is well implemented. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 17:09:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F9F16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:09:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00D943D53 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:09:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so93582wri for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:09:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ONcvVv3kWaFCc/8t6oUxj4/n9AlfRcqe/c9YEQ5EuzxYriogDOZI/qW3VPPbnCQ9mi89TCEIB65/XiIxu+Y/nGx9bwCtJXPXOO6jgO1Hje+LCY6pZ/WvkYHxWFudkr7ORkwqGf84Uy4taoOW2rLp1XmC546iCRTpVZvxQCSKKRY= Received: by 10.54.29.76 with SMTP id c76mr300858wrc; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.8 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:09:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf0501090909634fdabe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:09:55 -0700 From: Jon Drews To: mess-mate In-Reply-To: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> cc: "questions @ freebsd. org" Subject: Re: copy file to cd-rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:09:56 -0000 Hi: This section of the handbook gives very good instructions on how to save files to CD: 16.6 Creating and Using Optical Media (CDs) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:45:01 +0100, mess-mate wrote: > Hi guys, > I've to copy a large file to a cd-rw and have > a little troubles with my 5.3 system now. > Can you send me the exact way to do it ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 17:24:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B9E16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:24:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A23343D1F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.108?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2005 17:24:54 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Tom Vilot In-Reply-To: <41E15D57.6020007@vilot.com> References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> <200501091558.38291.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> <1105287426.624.23.camel@chaucer> <41E15D57.6020007@vilot.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1105291493.624.27.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:24:54 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:24:56 -0000 On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 11:35, Tom Vilot wrote: > Mike Jeays wrote: > > >Thanks very much. They both installed fine once I was told where they > >are! > > > > My avenue of last resort is this: > > cd /usr/ports > find . -type f -name pkg-descr | xargs grep -i > > where is what I remember the program name to be (cdrecord, etc) > > Also kinda handy if you have no idea what the name is but you know you > want something like, say, "audio compression": > > cd /usr/ports/audio > find . -type f -name pkg-descr | xargs grep -i compres > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I tried 'find /usr/ports -name "mkiso*"' before submitting my question. It yielded nothing because mkisofs is 'hidden' inside cdrtools. I guess I ought to have known this, as I have used if for a couple of years, but I had forgotten. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 17:28:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C0416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:28:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4F343D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:28:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from eric.placeverte.home (lns-vlq-7-lil-82-254-200-77.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.200.77]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 248E8C154; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:28:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:28:26 +0100 From: mess-mate To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109172826.52b93228@eric.placeverte.home> In-Reply-To: <8cb27cbf0501090909634fdabe@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> <8cb27cbf0501090909634fdabe@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jon Drews Subject: Re: copy file to cd-rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:28:21 -0000 I've readed . But sorry if i insist, the file to save is very-very important for me. This file contains the openoffice data of my work. So, i can't do any mistake and have no experience with 'cat', 'split' or 'mkisofs'. His name is 'home.tar.bz2' !! and is 2.4GB long. I've to find a way to save that file anywhere and must be accessed by my FBSD 5.3 as by another linux disk. To do that i've created a second partition /dev/hda4 with a ext3 fs can be accessed by my FBSD as by the linux disk. I can cp this file from that ext3 partition to FBSD but after changed and retarred/bzip2 My FBSD won't cp it to that partition " File too large". I can of course split that file, in this case it must be possible to join the resulting files from FBSD as by linux. I don't know if linux can join these files, splitted by FBSD, with a 'cat'. Anybody can help me with this issue ? Thanks in advance for your time. mess-mate On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:09:55 -0700 Jon Drews wrote: > Hi: > > This section of the handbook gives very good instructions on how to > save files to CD: > 16.6 Creating and Using Optical Media (CDs) > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html > > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:45:01 +0100, mess-mate wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I've to copy a large file to a cd-rw and have > > a little troubles with my 5.3 system now. > > Can you send me the exact way to do it ?? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 17:39:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F84A16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:39:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5172F43D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:39:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 44724 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2005 09:39:18 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jan 2005 09:39:18 -0800 Message-ID: <41E16C3A.6040300@taborandtashell.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:39:06 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: Peter Risdon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Webmail Frontend to mailboxes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:39:22 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Pointless for us, as CAcert's root certificate isn't included in I.E., so >the >end users have to go through the same honky-tonk to include it in their >browsers as if you just make your own certs. > > Not quite. If they include the CA-Cert root certificate, they only have to do that once for all of your CA-Cert signed certificates. -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 17:44:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E4F16A4E8 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:44:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838A443D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:44:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f00makr@dd.chalmers.se) Received: by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 3B0F937E44; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:44:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A85737F2E for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:44:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.248.111.175] (c83-248-111-175.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.111.175]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195A537E4C for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:44:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:45:14 +0100 From: Mats Kristoffersen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:44:53 -0000 I have trouble with AGP using the nVidia drivers from ports. I have a MSI K8N neo2 motherboard (nForce3 Ultra), an Athlon64 3000+ CPU and a GeForce FX 5200. I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE in i386 mode. When I load the nvidia drivers, it says: agp0: mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 agp0: Unable to find NVIDIA Memory Controller 1. device_attach: agp0 attach returned 19 nvidia0: mem 0xf0000000-0xf3ffffff,0xf4000000-0xf4ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] When I startx, it says NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. There is no /dev/agp or similar. Having agp enabled or disabled in the kernel or loading agp.ko dynamically makes no difference. Nvidia-related sysctl variables: hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000e1b:0x00000000 hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 3 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce FX 5200 hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.34.20.56.00 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP dev.nvidia.0.%desc: GeForce FX 5200 dev.nvidia.0.%driver: nvidia dev.nvidia.0.%location: slot=0 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.AGPB.VGAG dev.nvidia.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x10de device=0x0322 subvendor=0x0000 subdevice=0x0000 class=0x030000 dev.nvidia.0.%parent: pci1 Hardware acceleration works fine, except for AGP. Any help is appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 18:11:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A54416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:11:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330E743D46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:11:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EDC87BE8C1 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5979 invoked by uid 4199); 9 Jan 2005 18:10:25 -0000 Date: 9 Jan 2005 18:10:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20050109181025.5978.qmail@rahul.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:11:05 -0000 Mike Jeays writes: > Where are they? They don't seem to exist on my 5.3 system, and I can't > find any trace of them in /usr/ports. pkg_add -r doesn't find them > either. They are in cdrtools: pkg_add -r cdrtools or on the third or forth disk of the bsdmall set. John -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 18:31:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4099616A4ED for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:31:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB7143D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:31:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109183151.PXVS1106.out003.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:31:51 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C223C11CD2 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81479-07 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 84FF511CD0; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:31:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:31:50 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:31:51 -0600 Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:31:53 -0000 On 01/09/05 06:45 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > I have trouble with AGP using the nVidia drivers from ports. > > I have a MSI K8N neo2 motherboard (nForce3 Ultra), an Athlon64 3000+ CPU > and a GeForce FX 5200. I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE in i386 mode. Exactly the card I'm using, but I'm not using an Athlon. > When I load the nvidia drivers, it says: > > agp0: mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff at > device 0.0 on pci0 > agp0: Unable to find NVIDIA Memory Controller 1. That's the kernel agp. You might want to pull it out of the kernel and use the Nvidia agp. > device_attach: agp0 attach returned 19 > nvidia0: mem > 0xf0000000-0xf3ffffff,0xf4000000-0xf4ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 > nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Looks like a 64M card? Mines 128M, but that shouldn't matter here. > When I startx, it says > > NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel > NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. You need to pick an AGP driver. This is done in /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the NvAGP setting. I use Option "NvAGP" "1" # Use Nvidia agp Of course, I had to remove the agp device from my kernel. It may also be necessary for you to build a custom kernel that makes use of some Athlon specific features - I'm using a Pentium myself, but there are plenty of folks on the list that can recommend options and devices to look at. > There is no /dev/agp or similar. Having agp enabled or disabled in the > kernel or loading agp.ko dynamically makes no difference. The absence of a /dev/agp is not important. agp.ko is the FreeBSD agp driver, you might be better with the nvidia agp. > Nvidia-related sysctl variables: > hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x > hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported > hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported > hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000e1b:0x00000000 > hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 3 ^ Setting this to 3 tells the driver to try the native AGP first. I had trouble with this, and had to compile the agp device out of my kernel to get it to work right. Notice below that I set NvAGP to 1. > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce FX 5200 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.34.20.56.00 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP > dev.nvidia.0.%desc: GeForce FX 5200 > dev.nvidia.0.%driver: nvidia > dev.nvidia.0.%location: slot=0 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.AGPB.VGAG > dev.nvidia.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x10de device=0x0322 subvendor=0x0000 > subdevice=0x0000 class=0x030000 > dev.nvidia.0.%parent: pci1 I'm not seeing your hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate sysctl there, which suggests the NVidia AGP isn't being loaded. It may be having trouble with the native AGP driver, but the failover isn't working because there's a conflict - I had the same problem until I removed the native agp device. How did you compile the drivers? My pkgtools.conf uses the following: 'WITHOUT_LINUX=yes', 'WITH_ACPI=yes', This makes upgrades a little smoother. My kernel config has the agp device removed, so the hw.nvidia sysctls show the nvidia agp status: # sysctl hw.nvidia.agp hw.nvidia.agp.host-bridge.rates: 8x 4x hw.nvidia.agp.host-bridge.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.host-bridge.sba: supported hw.nvidia.agp.host-bridge.registers: 0x1f004a1b:0x00000b02 hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000e1b:0x1f004302 hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled I don't know the exact nature of the fw (fast writes) sysctl, but it doesn't seem to be supported in the FX5200. The key you'll be looking for is the hw.nvidia.agp.status.status sysctl, and it should say enabled. The hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates var should give you the acceleration rates you are getting. You might give that a try. Just comment out the agp in your kernel, don't delete it yet - just in case the nvidia agp doesn't like the athlon for some reason. Also, you'll want to make sure your xorg.conf has a good config. I'm using the TwinView feature, so my graphics device section won't necessarily apply fully. Just in case it will help, this is what I use: Section "Device" Identifier "NV AGP TwinView" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" Driver "nvidia" # update this with the PCI id of your card. Consult the output # of the 'lspci' command. The BusID is usually optional when # only using one graphics card. BusID "PCI:1:0:0" BoardName "NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]" # These are extras that may need removal Option "NoLogo" "True" Option "RenderAccel" "True" Option "NvAGP" "1" # Use NVIDIAs agp Option "HWCursor" "True" # Option "CursorShadow" "True" # Option "EnableAGPFW" "1" # Use Fast Writes # twinview setup Option "TwinView" Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "31-80" Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "56-75" Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1280x1024; 1024x768,1024x768" Option "ConnectedMonitor" "crt,crt" EndSection The last block, the twinview setup won't apply unless you're using two monitors, and even then it will likely need modification to work with your monitors. The rest of it may need tweakig to apply for you as well. Also, you should check out the readmes in /usr/X11R6/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/ They explain the agp issue a little better - particularly README.Linux. HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Griffin's Thought: When you starve with a tiger, the tiger starves last. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 18:48:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D7016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:48:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EEB43D4C for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:48:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out014.verizon.net ESMTP <20050109184841.FMBB28388.out014.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:48:41 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A850B2CE742; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:45:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:45:23 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> <8cb27cbf0501090909634fdabe@mail.gmail.com> <20050109172826.52b93228@eric.placeverte.home> In-Reply-To: <20050109172826.52b93228@eric.placeverte.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091045.24843.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:48:41 -0600 cc: mess-mate Subject: Re: copy file to cd-rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:48:42 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 08:28 am, mess-mate wrote: > I've readed . > But sorry if i insist, the file to save is very-very important for > me. This file contains the openoffice data of my work. > So, i can't do any mistake and have no experience with 'cat', 'split' > or 'mkisofs'. > > His name is 'home.tar.bz2' !! and is 2.4GB long. > I've to find a way to save that file anywhere and must be accessed by > my FBSD 5.3 as by another linux disk. > To do that i've created a second partition /dev/hda4 with a ext3 fs > can be accessed by my FBSD as by the linux disk. > > I can cp this file from that ext3 partition to FBSD but after changed > and retarred/bzip2 My FBSD won't cp it to that partition " File too > large". > > I can of course split that file, in this case it must be possible to > join the resulting files from FBSD as by linux. > > I don't know if linux can join these files, splitted by FBSD, with a > 'cat'. > > Anybody can help me with this issue ? > > Thanks in advance for your time. > mess-mate > Here is my advice: install archivers/rar and archivers/par2cmdline The following script will split your file into 25meg chunks, build a cd_9660 iso of them and provide a way to recover damaged files just in case, later on. assuming you file name is: home.tar.bz2 then run the following script as: ./backup.sh home.tar {don't add the .bz2} #!/bin/sh if test $1 then echo "mkdir $1; cd $1; rar a -s -m5 -v25m $1.rar ../$1.bz2" mkdir $1; cd $1; rar a -s -m5 -v25m $1.rar ../$1.bz2" echo "cd $1;par2 c -r15 -u $1 $1.part*.rar" cd $1;par2 c -r15 -u $1 $1.part*.rar echo "verifing archive" par2verify $1/$1.par2 echo "mkisofs -JR -o $1.iso" mkisofs -JR -o $1.iso $1 else echo "command line syntax is \"backup.sh {bz2 file name to back up}\"" fi Note: this script is not tested so it may need a little tweaking, it would also be improved if it could abort if the "par2verify $1/$1.par2" step fails but I don't know enough about scripting to do that, does anyone else? -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 18:52:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D3016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:52:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out004.verizon.net (out004pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6318043D1F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:52:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out004.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109185217.XOBN8290.out004.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:52:17 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0526311CD9 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81479-09 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CB92811CD8; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:52:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:52:16 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109185216.GF20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> <200501091558.38291.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> <1105287426.624.23.camel@chaucer> <41E15D57.6020007@vilot.com> <1105291493.624.27.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1105291493.624.27.camel@chaucer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:52:17 -0600 Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:52:19 -0000 On 01/09/05 12:24 PM, Mike Jeays sat at the `puter and typed: > On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 11:35, Tom Vilot wrote: > > Mike Jeays wrote: > > > > >Thanks very much. They both installed fine once I was told where they > > >are! > > > > > > > My avenue of last resort is this: > > > > cd /usr/ports > > find . -type f -name pkg-descr | xargs grep -i > > > > where is what I remember the program name to be (cdrecord, etc) > > > > Also kinda handy if you have no idea what the name is but you know you > > want something like, say, "audio compression": > > > > cd /usr/ports/audio > > find . -type f -name pkg-descr | xargs grep -i compres > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I tried 'find /usr/ports -name "mkiso*"' before submitting my question. > It yielded nothing because mkisofs is 'hidden' inside cdrtools. I guess > I ought to have known this, as I have used if for a couple of years, but > I had forgotten. A more typical search is: cd /usr/ports make search key=mkiso This may or may not yield anything useful. I tend to use the Jeffrey Friedl search tool, which is a much faster implementation of the find . -type f -name pkg-descr | xargs grep -i method. Many people will recognize his name. He literally wrote the book on regular expressions. This tool is probably the one I use more than any other when looking for something. Second thing I use when I know all or part of the file name is locate(1). I found it some 5 or 6 years ago - Jeffrey wrote it in 1994, and I have (fortunately) been able to hang on to it ever since. The license is open: ## Jeffrey Friedl (jfriedl@yahoo.com), Dec 1994. ## Copyright 19.... ah hell, just take it. Good man, that Jeffrey. I haven't been able to find any definitive update, but it hasn't required any more modification than the perl path over the years. I'll put my copy at the following URL for a while in case anyone wants it: http://ww2.keyslapper.org/search Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ It is fruitless: to attempt to indoctrinate a superannuated canine with innovative maneuvers. (you can't teach an old dog new tricks) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 18:58:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B76016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:58:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av1-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av1-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8450F43D48 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:58:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f00makr@dd.chalmers.se) Received: by av1-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id D3C6C37E85; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:58:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av1-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EBA37E61 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:58:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.248.111.175] (c83-248-111-175.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.111.175]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCBC37E45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:58:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:59:23 +0100 From: Mats Kristoffersen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:58:59 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/09/05 06:45 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > >>I have trouble with AGP using the nVidia drivers from ports. >> >>I have a MSI K8N neo2 motherboard (nForce3 Ultra), an Athlon64 3000+ CPU >>and a GeForce FX 5200. I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE in i386 mode. > > > Exactly the card I'm using, but I'm not using an Athlon. > > >>When I load the nvidia drivers, it says: >> >>agp0: mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff at >>device 0.0 on pci0 >>agp0: Unable to find NVIDIA Memory Controller 1. > > > That's the kernel agp. You might want to pull it out of the kernel > and use the Nvidia agp. > > >>device_attach: agp0 attach returned 19 >>nvidia0: mem >>0xf0000000-0xf3ffffff,0xf4000000-0xf4ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 >>nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > > Looks like a 64M card? Mines 128M, but that shouldn't matter here. > > >>When I startx, it says >> >>NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel >>NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. > > > You need to pick an AGP driver. This is done in /etc/X11/xorg.conf > with the NvAGP setting. I use > Option "NvAGP" "1" # Use Nvidia agp > Of course, I had to remove the agp device from my kernel. It may also > be necessary for you to build a custom kernel that makes use of some > Athlon specific features - I'm using a Pentium myself, but there are > plenty of folks on the list that can recommend options and devices to > look at. > > >>There is no /dev/agp or similar. Having agp enabled or disabled in the >>kernel or loading agp.ko dynamically makes no difference. > > > The absence of a /dev/agp is not important. agp.ko is the FreeBSD agp > driver, you might be better with the nvidia agp. > > >>Nvidia-related sysctl variables: >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000e1b:0x00000000 >>hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 >>hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 3 > > ^ > Setting this to 3 tells the driver to try the native AGP first. I had > trouble with this, and had to compile the agp device out of my kernel > to get it to work right. Notice below that I set NvAGP to 1. For some reason the sysctl var is set to 3 even though I use Option "NvAGP" "1" in xorg.conf. Setting it manually before starting X leaves it at 1, but that doesn't help. > How did you compile the drivers? My pkgtools.conf uses the following: > 'WITHOUT_LINUX=yes', > 'WITH_ACPI=yes', > This makes upgrades a little smoother. I've tried WITH_FREEBSD_AGP and the vanilla version. I want linux support enabled, since I play neverwinter nights now and then. > You might give that a try. Just comment out the agp in your kernel, > don't delete it yet - just in case the nvidia agp doesn't like the > athlon for some reason. That line is commented out already. I've tried commenting it out and I've tried leaving it on, but there is no difference in behaviour. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 19:02:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444A516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:02:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673A443D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:02:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aeder@list.ru) Received: from [82.179.204.50] (port=1095 helo=gateway.my.home) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CniL1-0005GQ-00; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:02:56 +0300 Received: from [10.0.1.5] (megagame.my.home [10.0.1.5]) by gateway.my.home (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j09J2qt2030107; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:02:53 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from aeder@list.ru) Message-ID: <41E180C1.8040201@list.ru> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:06:41 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQu9C10LrRgdCw0L3QtNGAINCU0LXRgNC10LLRj9C90LrQvg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mess-mate References: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> <8cb27cbf0501090909634fdabe@mail.gmail.com> <20050109172826.52b93228@eric.placeverte.home> In-Reply-To: <20050109172826.52b93228@eric.placeverte.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: "questions@freebsd.org" cc: Jon Drews Subject: Re: copy file to cd-rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:02:58 -0000 mess-mate wrote: >I've readed . >But sorry if i insist, the file to save is very-very important for me. >This file contains the openoffice data of my work. >So, i can't do any mistake and have no experience with 'cat', 'split' or 'mkisofs'. > >His name is 'home.tar.bz2' !! and is 2.4GB long. >I've to find a way to save that file anywhere and must be accessed by >my FBSD 5.3 as by another linux disk. >To do that i've created a second partition /dev/hda4 with a ext3 fs >can be accessed by my FBSD as by the linux disk. > >I can cp this file from that ext3 partition to FBSD but after changed and retarred/bzip2 My FBSD won't cp it to that partition " File too large". > >I can of course split that file, in this case it must be possible to join the resulting files from FBSD as by linux. > >I don't know if linux can join these files, splitted by FBSD, with a 'cat'. > >Anybody can help me with this issue ? > >Thanks in advance for your time. >mess-mate > > > >On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:09:55 -0700 >Jon Drews wrote: > > > >>Hi: >> >> This section of the handbook gives very good instructions on how to >>save files to CD: >>16.6 Creating and Using Optical Media (CDs) >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html >> >> >>On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:45:01 +0100, mess-mate wrote: >> >> >>>Hi guys, >>>I've to copy a large file to a cd-rw and have >>>a little troubles with my 5.3 system now. >>>Can you send me the exact way to do it ?? >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > First of all: File too large means that filesystem doesn't support such long files. You can't do anything with it. For you information, ISO filesystem doesn't support > 2Gb files too. Of course, split and cat utilities will work both in FreeBSD and any sort of Linux. You even can cat and ungzip files under Windows (in Cygwin enviroment). Best regards, Alexander Derevianko. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 19:13:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C185C16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:13:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB2543D4C for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109191302.BLWO4717.out011.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:13:02 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8DE272CE742; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:09:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:09:42 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> <20050109172826.52b93228@eric.placeverte.home> <200501091045.24843.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200501091045.24843.reso3w83@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091109.44784.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:13:02 -0600 cc: mess-mate Subject: Re: copy file to cd-rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:13:04 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 10:45 am, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Sunday 09 January 2005 08:28 am, mess-mate wrote: > > I've readed . > > But sorry if i insist, the file to save is very-very important for > > me. This file contains the openoffice data of my work. > > So, i can't do any mistake and have no experience with 'cat', > > 'split' or 'mkisofs'. > > > > His name is 'home.tar.bz2' !! and is 2.4GB long. > > I've to find a way to save that file anywhere and must be accessed > > by my FBSD 5.3 as by another linux disk. > > To do that i've created a second partition /dev/hda4 with a ext3 fs > > can be accessed by my FBSD as by the linux disk. > > > > I can cp this file from that ext3 partition to FBSD but after > > changed and retarred/bzip2 My FBSD won't cp it to that partition " > > File too large". > > > > I can of course split that file, in this case it must be possible > > to join the resulting files from FBSD as by linux. > > > > I don't know if linux can join these files, splitted by FBSD, with > > a 'cat'. > > > > Anybody can help me with this issue ? > > > > Thanks in advance for your time. > > mess-mate > > Here is my advice: > install archivers/rar > and archivers/par2cmdline > The following script will split your file into 25meg chunks, > build a cd_9660 iso of them and provide a way to recover damaged > files just in case, later on. > > assuming you file name is: > home.tar.bz2 > then run the following script as: > > ./backup.sh home.tar {don't add the .bz2} > > #!/bin/sh > if test $1 > then > echo "mkdir $1; cd $1; rar a -s -m5 -v25m $1.rar ../$1.bz2" > mkdir $1; cd $1; rar a -s -m5 -v25m $1.rar ../$1.bz2" > > echo "cd $1;par2 c -r15 -u $1 $1.part*.rar" > cd $1;par2 c -r15 -u $1 $1.part*.rar > > echo "verifing archive" > par2verify $1/$1.par2 > > echo "mkisofs -JR -o $1.iso" > mkisofs -JR -o $1.iso $1 > else > echo "command line syntax is \"backup.sh {bz2 file name to back > up}\"" fi > > Note: this script is not tested so it may need a little tweaking, it > would also be improved if it could abort if the "par2verify > $1/$1.par2" step fails but I don't know enough about scripting to do > that, does anyone else? > > -Mike You probably should get rid of the "mkisofs -JR -o $1.iso $1" line because it will be too big. If you will be burning to CD-Rs then make (2400/700=4) 4 sperate directories and divide all of the files in /home.tar equally amongst them then run something like: mkisofs -JR -o home.tar.1.iso home.tar-1 mkisofs -JR -o home.tar.2.iso home.tar-2 mkisofs -JR -o home.tar.3.iso home.tar-3 mkisofs -JR -o home.tar.4.iso home.tar-4 on each directory. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 19:16:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AF116A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:16:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out010.verizon.net (out010pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB3E43D55 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:16:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out010.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109191614.BXRV24714.out010.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:16:14 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7033811CD9 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54288-03 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42401118C9; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:16:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:16:13 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out010.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:16:13 -0600 Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:16:15 -0000 On 01/09/05 07:59 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > On 01/09/05 06:45 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > > > > > > ^ > > Setting this to 3 tells the driver to try the native AGP first. I had > > trouble with this, and had to compile the agp device out of my kernel > > to get it to work right. Notice below that I set NvAGP to 1. > > For some reason the sysctl var is set to 3 even though I use > Option "NvAGP" "1" > in xorg.conf. Setting it manually before starting X leaves it at 1, but > that doesn't help. Not sure that makes sense to me; maybe I'm forgetting something. > > How did you compile the drivers? My pkgtools.conf uses the following: > > 'WITHOUT_LINUX=yes', > > 'WITH_ACPI=yes', > > This makes upgrades a little smoother. > > I've tried WITH_FREEBSD_AGP and the vanilla version. I want linux > support enabled, since I play neverwinter nights now and then. That may be why NvAGP overrides to "3". Using "NvAGP" "1", but compiling the drivers with WITH_FREEBSD_AGP should be mutually exclusive. One tells the driver to use the NVidia AGP, the other tells it to use the native FreeBSD AGP. Like I said, you need to pick one. The NVidia AGP is probably the better choice. You mention below that it's already removed from the kernel, but that doesn't make sense if you're getting the agp0: console output. I'm assuming the kernel was rebuilt since that config was commented out, but is that config the one that was used? > > You might give that a try. Just comment out the agp in your kernel, > > don't delete it yet - just in case the nvidia agp doesn't like the > > athlon for some reason. > > That line is commented out already. I've tried commenting it out and > I've tried leaving it on, but there is no difference in behaviour. Then you should definitely not be compiling the drivers with WITH_FREEBSD_AGP. Try recompiling without that config. Linux support is probably not a problem, so don't worry about that. What do you get from the command kldstat? Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ bug, n: A son of a glitch. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 19:19:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D53916A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:19:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from codegurus.org (cpc2-stoc7-3-0-cust147.midd.cable.ntl.com [81.104.76.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C8743D2D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:19:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) Received: from codegurus.org (codegurus.org [192.168.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by codegurus.org (8.13.2/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j09JJOXb002265 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:19:27 GMT (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) From: Mick Walker To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:19:24 +0000 Message-Id: <1105298364.947.3.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Nautilus Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:19:19 -0000 Hi All, I have just upgraded from gnome 2.6 to gnome 2.8. This upgrade also upgraded nautilus to 2.8.2. The issue I am having is viewing image files with nautilus, the previous version allowed me to view images in the same browser window that I was browsing the file system with, however in the newer version I can't find the setting to allow me to do this, I have looked through the gconf settings, and can't seem to find a setting that related to this feature. But maybe it is a case of me not being able to see the forest for the trees. Currently when I double click on a image file, eog is loaded in a separate window. Does anyone know how I can revert back to the previous way of viewing images I mentioned above? Thanks for your time. -- perl -e 'printf %silto%c%sal%c%s%ccodegurus%corg%c, ma, 58, mw, 107, 'er', 64, 46, 10;' Homer: "Remember as far as anyone knows, we're a nice normal family." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 19:38:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5BB16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:38:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av3-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av3-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EE743D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:38:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f00makr@dd.chalmers.se) Received: by av3-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id DD3DE37F67; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:38:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.181]) by av3-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC43237F3D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:38:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.248.111.175] (c83-248-111-175.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.111.175]) by smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA22F37E48 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:38:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:38:55 +0100 From: Mats Kristoffersen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:38:31 -0000 >>>Setting this to 3 tells the driver to try the native AGP first. I had >>>trouble with this, and had to compile the agp device out of my kernel >>>to get it to work right. Notice below that I set NvAGP to 1. >> >>For some reason the sysctl var is set to 3 even though I use >>Option "NvAGP" "1" >>in xorg.conf. Setting it manually before starting X leaves it at 1, but >>that doesn't help. > > > Not sure that makes sense to me; maybe I'm forgetting something. > > >>>How did you compile the drivers? My pkgtools.conf uses the following: >>> 'WITHOUT_LINUX=yes', >>> 'WITH_ACPI=yes', >>>This makes upgrades a little smoother. >> >>I've tried WITH_FREEBSD_AGP and the vanilla version. I want linux >>support enabled, since I play neverwinter nights now and then. > > > That may be why NvAGP overrides to "3". Using "NvAGP" "1", but > compiling the drivers with WITH_FREEBSD_AGP should be mutually > exclusive. One tells the driver to use the NVidia AGP, the other > tells it to use the native FreeBSD AGP. Like I said, you need to pick > one. The NVidia AGP is probably the better choice. You mention below > that it's already removed from the kernel, but that doesn't make sense > if you're getting the agp0: console output. I'm assuming the kernel > was rebuilt since that config was commented out, but is that config > the one that was used? Yes, I recompiled with just WITH_ACPI, and now it's 1 as default. I even cvsupped world and rebuilt, and now nvidia.ko doesn't try the agp0 stuff. I guess that's progress, but AGP still doesn't work. > Then you should definitely not be compiling the drivers with > WITH_FREEBSD_AGP. Try recompiling without that config. Linux support > is probably not a problem, so don't worry about that. What would the NvAGP "3" option do, then, if it couldn't fall back on nvidia's agp implementation? I supposed it could do both if you built with WITH_FREEBSD_AGP. Oh well, it's gone now. > What do you get from the command kldstat? Id Refs Address Size Name 1 14 0xc0400000 350800 kernel 2 2 0xc0751000 1c180 linux.ko 3 1 0xc076e000 5844 snd_ich.ko 4 2 0xc0774000 1d4fc sound.ko 5 14 0xc0792000 54974 acpi.ko 6 1 0xc23fc000 27000 pf.ko 7 1 0xc2450000 2000 blank_saver.ko 8 1 0xc301a000 479000 nvidia.ko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 19:47:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0306716A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:47:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9412743D1F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:47:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.64.9]) by mta9.adelphia.netESMTP <20050109194717.LTFQ14945.mta9.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:47:17 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D326AB519; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:46:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:46:34 -0500 From: Parv To: Christer Solskogen Message-ID: <20050109194634.GA275@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Christer Solskogen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050106142257.GA30323@math.jussieu.fr> <41DD8242.8090207@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Create tgz packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:47:18 -0000 in message , wrote Christer Solskogen thusly... > > Is there a easy way of making packages of all installed ports? (I > guess it every port will get recompiled, but that doesnt matter to > me.) You may or may not need to escape some characters from your shell; assuming sh ... for port in $( find /var/db/pkg -mindepth 1 -type d ) do echo pkg_create -b $(basename "$port") done - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 19:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B60D16A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.itknowledge.ch (static-195-073.catv.glattnet.ch [80.242.195.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEA943D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from black@black.ch) Received: from mail.itknowledge.ch (Not Verified[10.0.1.100]) by smtp.itknowledge.ch with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6,0,3,8) id ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:49:42 +0100 Received: from [172.31.150.222] ([217.162.70.152]) by mail.itknowledge.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:51:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20050108115902.S50168@pemaquid.safeport.com> References: <20050106232123.AC3BA16A4D2@hub.freebsd.org> <20050108055611.GA27077@panix.com> <20050108115902.S50168@pemaquid.safeport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=fixed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ronny Fischer Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:50:49 +0100 To: doug@safeport.com X-Pgp-Rfc2646-Fix: 1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2005 19:51:14.0363 (UTC) FILETIME=[937AC8B0:01C4F684] cc: Joe Altman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:50:19 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi there I have updatet to xorg-server-6.8.1_1 X.Org X server and related programs via FreeBSD Ports.. ..but it is still not possible to get more the 8 bit color on the sony c1ve. the vesa driver is fine in 640x480 but it is not possible to have it with 1024x480 on this machine... any other ideas ? could it work with xfree86 instead of xorg ? thanx a lot, HAVE FUN and with my best regardz ronny Am 08.01.2005 um 18:14 schrieb doug@safeport.com: Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that the problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x. The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font rendering. On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote: > Doug, Ronny... > > I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, > 2004 using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have > a default depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using > the ati driver. > > Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my > experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the > most recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on > December 28th. > > Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in > September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what > is above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest > source for xorg and the chip in question. > > HTH, best regards, > > Joe > _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 Beschtae Dank, HAFE FUN und mit aemae Gruaess Ronny - ----------------------------------- http://the.fischerman.ch mailto:info@fischerman.ch - ----------------------------------- < /EndOfTransmission > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQeGLHMAf475eQe77EQLuEwCeN8ctUcGauhDrvwhSBBvPaEj5dDoAn0M3 U3WzgtvNIWAcIVVchYfeWC5z =CJzL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ######################################################################## This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution ######################################################################## From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 20:28:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4612416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:28:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from antyk.obta.uw.edu.pl (antyk.obta.uw.edu.pl [193.0.78.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AE543D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from draco@atari.org) Received: from [82.210.159.30] (30-dz2-8.acn.waw.pl [82.210.159.30]) by antyk.obta.uw.edu.pl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j09KSrh8047346 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:28:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from draco@atari.org) Message-ID: <41E193E2.8000909@atari.org> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:28:18 +0100 From: draco Organization: Wyspa Autokraty User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: 5.3 and CD/DVD ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:28:21 -0000 Hello! I am using FreeBSD on my laptop as a desktop OS. I am quite pleased by its - the FreeBSD's - general reliability. I was using 5.2.1 previously too, I've upgraded to 5.3-STABLE in the middle of the December 2004. Few days later I noticed that I cannot mount any of my CD ROMs anymore. When I do: #mount -t cd9600 /dev/acd0 /mnt/cdrom there drive spins up, its LED gets on, and ... nothing happens for some time. Simultaneously I can observe messages on the console such as: acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out (yes, seven times), and then the mount commands answers "cd9660: /dev/acd0: Input/output error" Here's the drive name as returned by dmesg: acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 Here's the sysctl settings for ATA: hw.ata.ata_dma: 1 hw.ata.wc: 1 hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1 Here's the atacontrol "list" output for channel 1: ATA channel 1: Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 5 Slave: no device present Here's the atacontrol "mode" output for channel 1: Master = UDMA33 Slave = BIOSPIO The machine is Toshiba Satellite 1405-S151. I am using a custom kernel, but the generic kernel distributed on the bootable ISO image had exactly the same problem, when it came do acd0 initialization. In my kernel config file I have: # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering The CD-ROMs I am trying to mount are: 1) burned (yes, I read this list's archive before asking the question); 2) these are data CD's with ISO filesystem on them; 3) these CDs are burned properly (Windows XP on the same machine has no problem mounting them; more over, FreeBSD 5.2.1 running on the same machine had no problem mounting them); What can I do to get the drive working? Thanks, KMK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 20:51:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC7416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:51:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1CA43D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109205125.CEVZ4717.out011.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:51:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5743811CDA for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55845-01 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0E69911CD8; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:51:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:51:24 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109205123.GI20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:51:24 -0600 Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:51:26 -0000 On 01/09/05 08:38 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > > > > > > > That may be why NvAGP overrides to "3". Using "NvAGP" "1", but > > compiling the drivers with WITH_FREEBSD_AGP should be mutually > > exclusive. One tells the driver to use the NVidia AGP, the other > > tells it to use the native FreeBSD AGP. Like I said, you need to > > pick one. The NVidia AGP is probably the better choice. You > > mention below that it's already removed from the kernel, but that > > doesn't make sense if you're getting the agp0: console output. > > I'm assuming the kernel was rebuilt since that config was > > commented out, but is that config the one that was used? > > Yes, I recompiled with just WITH_ACPI, and now it's 1 as default. I > even cvsupped world and rebuilt, and now nvidia.ko doesn't try the > agp0 stuff. I guess that's progress, but AGP still doesn't work. Progress is very often nothing more than a change in error conditions :) Ok, how about the hw.nvidia sysctls and the logs? Any warnings (WW) or errors (EE) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? There will probably be a couple warnings related to modes, but those are probably not directly related. Every time you make a change, check the hw.nvidia.agp.status sysctls. Mine are as follows: hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled You might have a couple differences, particularly the fw and sba values, but you want the rate to be 8x or at least 4x, and status enabled. As you track down warnings and errors in the Xorg.0.log file, you will probably be able to guess what kind of changes are needed in xorg.conf. Check the README.Linux file in the NVidia driver directory mentioned before for any tokens mentioned in those warning or error log entries. You will probably have to try different settings to eliminate the warnings or errors, but it's just a config change and X restart (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace). Compile/reinstall stuff is probably not needed at this point. > > Then you should definitely not be compiling the drivers with > > WITH_FREEBSD_AGP. Try recompiling without that config. Linux support > > is probably not a problem, so don't worry about that. > > What would the NvAGP "3" option do, then, if it couldn't fall back on > nvidia's agp implementation? I supposed it could do both if you built > with WITH_FREEBSD_AGP. Oh well, it's gone now. I couldn't tell you why it's there if it seems to conflict so. Probably it's more a config to tell the driver that it might be there, but might not? That way, if you set "NvAGP" "3", you'll wind up with whichever one works - assuming it does work. I was using the native FreeBSD AGP driver at one point, but it didn't "work". When it's compiled into the kernel, the sysctls can be read with `sysctl -a | grep agp` but I don't know exactly where they are. > > What do you get from the command kldstat? > > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 14 0xc0400000 350800 kernel > 2 2 0xc0751000 1c180 linux.ko > 3 1 0xc076e000 5844 snd_ich.ko > 4 2 0xc0774000 1d4fc sound.ko > 5 14 0xc0792000 54974 acpi.ko > 6 1 0xc23fc000 27000 pf.ko > 7 1 0xc2450000 2000 blank_saver.ko > 8 1 0xc301a000 479000 nvidia.ko Looks right. Now to get the config right. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ We are sorry. We cannot complete your call as dialed. Please check the number and dial again or ask your operator for assistance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:05:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93CB16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:05:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhost.reuver.org (fia1-7.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.7.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8BA43D53 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@de.reuver.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.reuver.local [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.reuver.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07F551DC for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:05:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhost.reuver.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.reuver.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33239-09 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:05:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from pc10 (unknown [10.0.0.150]) by mailhost.reuver.local (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EEDE51DB for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:05:22 +0100 (CET) From: "Marcel de Reuver" To: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:05:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at reuver.org Subject: Opengroupware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:05:25 -0000 Hi, On FreeBSD 5.3 you can install Opengroupware from the ports without any warning or error. When you start Opengroupware it is complaining about a missing /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6 OpenSSL 0.9.7d is installed and working. Has anyone Opengroupware running on FreeBSD 5.3? Best regards, Marcel de Reuver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:05:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBAD16A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:05:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C895F43D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:05:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from eric.placeverte.home (lns-vlq-7-lil-82-254-200-77.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.200.77]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id F097BC1B7 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:05:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:05:32 +0100 From: messmate To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109220532.2db6587c@eric.placeverte.home> In-Reply-To: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> References: <20050109164501.0b0d4a3d@eric.placeverte.home> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: ~S|{@o1@R1@.oAi5*hm[#*i1`Pk@JI4>Ij**TdOR1Fqp}VrEeVY+@m4"]`j\xX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: copy file to cd-rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:05:42 -0000 THANKSSSSS to all !! It's solved. I din't know how to do without your help. My work is back... mess-mate On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:45:01 +0100 mess-mate wrote: >Hi guys, >I've to copy a large file to a cd-rw and have >a little troubles with my 5.3 system now. >Can you send me the exact way to do it ?? > >Sorry for this ignorance. >Thanks in advance. >mess-mate > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:06:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D6016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:06:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av1-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av1-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F1B43D48 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:06:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f00makr@dd.chalmers.se) Received: by av1-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8493737F56; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:06:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.181]) by av1-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7487037EA5 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:06:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.248.111.175] (c83-248-111-175.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.111.175]) by smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B1937E46 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:06:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E19CD3.30602@dd.chalmers.se> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:06:27 +0100 From: Mats Kristoffersen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109205123.GI20686@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050109205123.GI20686@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:06:02 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: >>Yes, I recompiled with just WITH_ACPI, and now it's 1 as default. I >>even cvsupped world and rebuilt, and now nvidia.ko doesn't try the >>agp0 stuff. I guess that's progress, but AGP still doesn't work. > > > Progress is very often nothing more than a change in error conditions > :) > > Ok, how about the hw.nvidia sysctls and the logs? Any warnings (WW) > or errors (EE) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? There will probably be a > couple warnings related to modes, but those are probably not directly > related. A couple of warnings about modes and fonts, no errors. I used -verbose 5 -logverbose 5. > Every time you make a change, check the hw.nvidia.agp.status sysctls. > Mine are as follows: > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x > hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled Those sysctls don't even exist. > You might have a couple differences, particularly the fw and sba > values, but you want the rate to be 8x or at least 4x, and status > enabled. As you track down warnings and errors in the Xorg.0.log > file, you will probably be able to guess what kind of changes are > needed in xorg.conf. Check the README.Linux file in the NVidia driver > directory mentioned before for any tokens mentioned in those warning > or error log entries. You will probably have to try different > settings to eliminate the warnings or errors, but it's just a config > change and X restart (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace). Compile/reinstall stuff is > probably not needed at this point. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:14:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225B616A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:14:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832E343D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:14:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109211410.EKDU28025.out001.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:14:10 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4581A11CDA for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55845-04 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 185BB1187E; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:14:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:14:10 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109211409.GJ20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109205123.GI20686@keyslapper.org> <41E19CD3.30602@dd.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E19CD3.30602@dd.chalmers.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:14:10 -0600 Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:14:12 -0000 On 01/09/05 10:06 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > >>Yes, I recompiled with just WITH_ACPI, and now it's 1 as default. I > >>even cvsupped world and rebuilt, and now nvidia.ko doesn't try the > >>agp0 stuff. I guess that's progress, but AGP still doesn't work. > > > > > > Progress is very often nothing more than a change in error conditions > > :) > > > > Ok, how about the hw.nvidia sysctls and the logs? Any warnings (WW) > > or errors (EE) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? There will probably be a > > couple warnings related to modes, but those are probably not directly > > related. > > A couple of warnings about modes and fonts, no errors. I used -verbose 5 > -logverbose 5. Good. Keep an eye on that as you change things. > > Every time you make a change, check the hw.nvidia.agp.status sysctls. > > Mine are as follows: > > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled > > hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia > > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x > > hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled > > hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled > > Those sysctls don't even exist. What does the cards config block look like in your xorg.conf? Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ A man was reading The Canterbury Tales one Saturday morning, when his wife asked "What have you got there?" Replied he, "Just my cup and Chaucer." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:18:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76D616A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:18:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555EB43D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:18:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f00makr@dd.chalmers.se) Received: by av3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 80B3E37F54; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:18:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC7137E58 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:18:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.248.111.175] (c83-248-111-175.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.111.175]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFAF37E4F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:18:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E19FC0.2000808@dd.chalmers.se> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:18:56 +0100 From: Mats Kristoffersen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109205123.GI20686@keyslapper.org> <41E19CD3.30602@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109211409.GJ20686@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050109211409.GJ20686@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:18:31 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/09/05 10:06 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >> >>>>Yes, I recompiled with just WITH_ACPI, and now it's 1 as default. I >>>>even cvsupped world and rebuilt, and now nvidia.ko doesn't try the >>>>agp0 stuff. I guess that's progress, but AGP still doesn't work. >>> >>> >>>Progress is very often nothing more than a change in error conditions >>>:) >>> >>>Ok, how about the hw.nvidia sysctls and the logs? Any warnings (WW) >>>or errors (EE) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? There will probably be a >>>couple warnings related to modes, but those are probably not directly >>>related. >> >>A couple of warnings about modes and fonts, no errors. I used -verbose 5 >>-logverbose 5. > > > Good. Keep an eye on that as you change things. > > >>>Every time you make a change, check the hw.nvidia.agp.status sysctls. >>>Mine are as follows: >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled >> >>Those sysctls don't even exist. > > > What does the cards config block look like in your xorg.conf? > > Lou Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" Option "NvAGP" "1" EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:23:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BE516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:23:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCAA43D4C for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:23:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j09LNDu37814 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:23:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:23:13 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109152313.A37770@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: Lost my X11 config - what was the old tool to build it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:23:15 -0000 Before Win98 destroyed my nice FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE installation on my Compaq Armada M700 laptop, I had a really good X configuration which, if I remember correctly, was generated almost entirely automatically somehow. (No, I didn't have a backup of that config file, and I've already kick myself many times.) Anyway, I am trying to get this back up and running with XFree86 4.3.0 and FreeBSD 5.2.1. I sure can't get anything that's useful now from the X86Config script - all it does is ask me questions that I don't really know the answer to - partly because it is a Laptop, and I can't just easily see what the built-in adapter is. Whatever configuration utility that I ran before, I sure can't find it now - it seemed to make VERY good recommendations, and I could sure use some! I've checked the XFree86 web site, and didn't find much useful there. I've done global web searches for XFree86 and this laptop, but they must be for versions that are too old, because they don't work for me, complaining of Drivers that don't exist, and so forth. I'd be tempted to just reload 4.9-RELEASE and re-do it from there, but I'm afraid I may run into a similar problem - where the config file there, even if I get it, won't work with the new stuff. Any pointers will be appreciated. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:24:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A13116A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:24:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from crumpet.united-ware.com (ddsl-66-42-172-210.fuse.net [66.42.172.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E870D43D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (adsl-69-208-54-135.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.208.54.135]) (authenticated bits=0)j09L0cWp051946 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:00:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:28:01 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41E193E2.8000909@atari.org> In-Reply-To: <41E193E2.8000909@atari.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3857906.uXWzoHJ82g"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501091628.11557.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on crumpet.united-ware.com cc: draco Subject: Re: 5.3 and CD/DVD ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:24:37 -0000 --nextPart3857906.uXWzoHJ82g Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 09 January 2005 03:28 pm, draco wrote: > Hello! > > I am using FreeBSD on my laptop as a desktop OS. I am quite pleased by > its - the FreeBSD's - general reliability. I was using 5.2.1 previously > too, I've upgraded to 5.3-STABLE in the middle of the December 2004. > > Few days later I noticed that I cannot mount any of my CD ROMs anymore. > When I do: > > #mount -t cd9600 /dev/acd0 /mnt/cdrom > > there drive spins up, its LED gets on, and ... nothing happens for some > time. Simultaneously I can observe messages on the console such as: > > acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out > acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out > acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out > acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out > acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out > acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out > acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (2 retries left) > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out > > (yes, seven times), and then the mount commands answers > > "cd9660: /dev/acd0: Input/output error" > > Here's the drive name as returned by dmesg: > > acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 > > Here's the sysctl settings for ATA: > > hw.ata.ata_dma: 1 > hw.ata.wc: 1 > hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1 > > Here's the atacontrol "list" output for channel 1: > > ATA channel 1: > Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 5 > Slave: no device present > > Here's the atacontrol "mode" output for channel 1: > > Master =3D UDMA33 > Slave =3D BIOSPIO > > The machine is Toshiba Satellite 1405-S151. > > I am using a custom kernel, but the generic kernel distributed on the > bootable ISO image had exactly the same problem, when it came do acd0 > initialization. In my kernel config file I have: > > # ATA and ATAPI devices > device ata > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering > > The CD-ROMs I am trying to mount are: > > 1) burned (yes, I read this list's archive before asking the question); > > 2) these are data CD's with ISO filesystem on them; > > 3) these CDs are burned properly (Windows XP on the same machine has no > problem mounting them; more over, FreeBSD 5.2.1 running on the same > machine had no problem mounting them); > > What can I do to get the drive working? > In /boot/loader.conf add: hw.ata.atapi_dma=3D"0" =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart3857906.uXWzoHJ82g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB4aHrxqA5ziudZT0RAhojAJ4nw0O6D/R8ffKCvq/Vf9uO/0e+owCfV28m ALC2ZV+YDXMjUWMeIU6NYtE= =Pj33 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3857906.uXWzoHJ82g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD35B16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282A343D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145E4BD6CC; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:39:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E4718B2F; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:39:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 50344-10; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:39:33 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F16218AC0; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:39:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E1A491.5070005@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:39:29 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel de Reuver References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opengroupware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:39:41 -0000 First of all this is a port which requires the Linux/ELF binary emulation to be installed. Second - You shouldn't search in /usr/lib for required libraries. Instead you should search in ... -> /compat/linux/usr/lib Because Opengroupware is searching for the Linux version of OpenSSL! I bet you'll find something like this ... root@abyssone# ls -la /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 194416 Sep 24 2003 /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6b lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Dec 6 19:46 /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.2 -> libssl.so.0.9.6b Do you see the problem? It is >> libssl.so.0.9.6b << but Opengroupware is searching for >> libssl.so.0.9.6 << So this should solve the problem: ln -s /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6b \ /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6 -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name Marcel de Reuver schrieb: > Hi, > > On FreeBSD 5.3 you can install Opengroupware from the ports without any > warning or error. When you start Opengroupware it is complaining about a > missing /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6 > > OpenSSL 0.9.7d is installed and working. Has anyone Opengroupware running on > FreeBSD 5.3? > > Best regards, > Marcel de Reuver > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e19cac918321543481209! > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 21:58:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C0F16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:58:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from straycat.dhs.org (h0050da134090.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.60.174.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2BD43D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tmclaugh@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from compass.straycat.dhs.org (compass.straycat.dhs.org [192.168.1.32]) by straycat.dhs.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j09LwFKs011861 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:58:15 -0500 (EST) From: Tom McLaughlin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:58:10 -0500 Message-Id: <1105307890.1371.42.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Updating a running jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:58:00 -0000 Hi, I have a machine which I am running a jail on to be used as a clean work space for ports work. I got tired of messing up the ports tree and installed ports on my desktop so I figured a jails would be the best solution. The jail host is running FreeBSD-stable because I'm waiting for some changes in FreeBSD-6 to be MFC'ed. What I want to know is what is the best way to keep my jail up to date with -stable? (Well, actually keep the jail in sync with the jailhost which runs -stable.) I've already figured out how to handle the ports within the jail so that is not a problem, only worried about keeping the base up to date. I've thought of a couple of ideas so far. One is to dispose of the old jail and build a new one. That just won't work for my needs and is a waste of time from what I see. My jail is setup "the way I like it" so working in the jail is comfortable, ie. I have a lot of config files permissions set, and a decent number of packages installed to make life easier for me when logged in. My next idea is to use a script on the jailhost which carries out the steps for building a jail from the manpage and essentially installing over the old jail. I just wonder how that will affect /etc within the jail. I want many of the changes to /etc that occur in -stable but I don't want to overwrite all the changes I have made. I guess I could skip `make distribution' and run mergemaster later. My last idea is to mount the jailhost's /usr/src and /usr/obj directories into the jail with nullfs and then after having run buildworld on the jailhost, run installworld in the jail and then use mergemaster to take care of /etc within the jail. I've used a similar process to update OpenBSD machines over NFS but have never tried it on FreeBSD. Can anyone tell me what they do to manage their jails and keep them up to date? Thanks. Tom -- BSD# Project - Porting Mono to FreeBSD http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/project/?bsd-sharp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 22:04:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE1316A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:04:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B76643D2D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:04:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.64.9]) by mta9.adelphia.netESMTP <20050109220421.QAIS14945.mta9.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:04:21 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 794CDB519; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:03:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:03:53 -0500 From: Parv To: Christer Solskogen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109220353.GB275@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Christer Solskogen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050106142257.GA30323@math.jussieu.fr> <41DD8242.8090207@scii.nl> <20050109194634.GA275@holestein.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050109194634.GA275@holestein.holy.cow> Subject: Re: Create tgz packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:04:22 -0000 in message <20050109194634.GA275@holestein.holy.cow>, wrote Parv thusly... > > in message , > wrote Christer Solskogen thusly... > > > > Is there a easy way of making packages of all installed ports? > > assuming sh ... > > for port in $( find /var/db/pkg -mindepth 1 -type d ) > do > echo pkg_create -b $(basename "$port") ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Oops, forgot to undo the echo after testing; please remove it when one is ready to create the packages. > done Below is another way ... find /var/db/pkg -mindepth 1 -type d \ | while read port do pkg_create -b $(basename "$port") done - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 22:05:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A303816A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:05:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DDD43D2D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:05:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD5CBD649; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:04:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF8018B35; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:04:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 54322-10; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:04:55 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2473018B2F; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:04:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E1AA84.809@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:04:52 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John References: <20050109152313.A37770@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050109152313.A37770@starfire.mn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost my X11 config - what was the old tool to build it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:05:02 -0000 Did you read: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html John schrieb: > Before Win98 destroyed my nice FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE installation on > my Compaq Armada M700 laptop, I had a really good X configuration > which, if I remember correctly, was generated almost entirely > automatically somehow. (No, I didn't have a backup of that config > file, and I've already kick myself many times.) Anyway, I am trying > to get this back up and running with XFree86 4.3.0 and FreeBSD > 5.2.1. > > I sure can't get anything that's useful now from the X86Config > script - all it does is ask me questions that I don't really know > the answer to - partly because it is a Laptop, and I can't just > easily see what the built-in adapter is. Whatever configuration > utility that I ran before, I sure can't find it now - it seemed > to make VERY good recommendations, and I could sure use some! > > I've checked the XFree86 web site, and didn't find much useful there. > > I've done global web searches for XFree86 and this laptop, but > they must be for versions that are too old, because they don't > work for me, complaining of Drivers that don't exist, and so forth. > > I'd be tempted to just reload 4.9-RELEASE and re-do it from there, > but I'm afraid I may run into a similar problem - where the config > file there, even if I get it, won't work with the new stuff. > > Any pointers will be appreciated. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 22:14:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3975316A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:14:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B519243D39 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:14:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j09MElj52509; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Andrew L. Gould" , Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:14:47 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200501090854.55799.algould@datawok.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:14:49 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Andrew L. Gould > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:55 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: I quit > > > On Sunday 09 January 2005 02:53 am, william gatlin wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying > > the file, I loaded it and got a lot of error code 1 messages that I > > never did figure out. I changed the partitioning and allowed 1/2 a > > gig for the root directory and loaded it again. > > > > All seemed to go well untill I tryed to configure the X.org windowing > > system. Nothing in /stand/sysinstall would do any configuration of > > X. Went to the net and got instructions. Finally got X to work and > > found vidtune. > > > > Kdm comes up with a log in screen which just leads to another log in > > screen. ctrl-alt-backspace won't turn x off as it keeps comming back > > on it's own. Nothing leads to a window manager other than the little > > one that comes with X. > > > > I re-downloaded the window managers from the net and hoped that would > > fix it. It didn't. I'm sure that the trouble is in some little > > config file somewhere or another but I just don't have the time as I > > need a running system going. > > > > My opinion is that x.org isn't integrated quite well enough yet for > > prime time. My BSD books don't have the new commands and other > > information to be of any use and the Man pages that downloaded were > > of no help either. > > > > So for now I'm going to try to load Slackware and hope that maybe in > > a year BSD will be easier to wade through. I have to admit a bit of > > sorrow in having to do this as I wanted them both on the same > > machine. > > > > At the same time I wish to communicate my respect and admiration for > > the great job the BSD community is doing and hope in no way to > > communicate any disregaurd for everyones efforts. > > > > Right now I have to have Windows up and running also and am watching > > it go into a self destruct mode from somthing that it downloaded from > > the net all by it's self with no human operator touching it. There > > are so many Popups I had to pull the net cable just to stop it. They > > don't get no respect. > > > > It is my hope that the various Windows emulators will/are working > > well enough to run some of my mission critical programs. Espesially > > 'Trade Station' . I can't imagine having thousands of dollars riding > > on Microsoft reliability. > > > > Thank You--------Bill Gatlin > > "Prime Time", in it's truest sense, would suggest that FreeBSD is > targetted at a mass market -- it is not. The mass market is not > characterized, primarily, as thinkers. The FreeBSD user community > would be better described as system users and administrators who enjoy > technical aspects of computing; and who insist on controlling the > operating system. I'm not trying to insult you, or suggest that you're > not a thinker. I am trying to clear up any misconceptions about > FreeBSD. The "strengths" of MS Windows lead to its weaknesses. The > lack of those "strengths" in FreeBSD lead to a robust, stable operating > system; but require more work on the part of the user --> no "loose > nuts between the chair and the keyboard". (I can't remember where I > first heard that phrase.) > A couple misconceptions I would like to clear up (some I may have created): 1) FreeBSD isn't really targeted anywhere, because targeting implies there's a marketing department out there listening to customer feedback and telling the software developers what to write. It is liked by sysadmins mainly because sysadmins and developers work on it - but there really isn't anyone in the FreeBSD development group sitting around deliberately making FreeBSD difficult for the new user to use. 2) On request I can preconfigure a FreeBSD system for a business to be EXACTLY targeted to JUST what the business wants their employees to be running. So can any good FreeBSD admin. Thus, the possibility always exists that some 3rd party can come between the raw ISO's and a "mass market" end user and set it up for the mass market. Nothing in the OS exists that makes this impossible. The fact that many people have already done this with Linux somewhat precludes this from happening, though. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 22:15:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB40016A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:15:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mr.tuwien.ac.at (mr1-n.kom.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.2.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A196F43D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:15:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from webmail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (lps.ben.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.74.11]) by mr.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id j09MFeId010420 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:15:41 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: V-webmail 1.5.1 ( http://www.v-webmail.co.uk/ ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:15:40 +0100 From: "Florian Hengstberger" To: FreeBSD mailinglist X-Vwebmail-Auth: e0025265@stud3.tuwien.ac.at X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: avr-libc 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:15:45 -0000 Hi! Has anybody an idea where I can fetch: avr-libc-2003.09.09.tar.bz2 or a package for 5.2.1? I have installed avrdude, avr-gcc via pkg_add but I'm not successfull with the libc. make install says: >> Attempting to fetch from http://people.freebsd.org/~joerg/. fetch: http://people.freebsd.org/~joerg/avr-libc-2003.09.09.tar.bz2: Not Found >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/avr-libc-2003.09.09.tar.bz2: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) Where can I download it? Thanks Florian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 22:38:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712BB16A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:38:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhost.reuver.org (fia1-7.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.7.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E711343D31 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@de.reuver.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.reuver.local [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.reuver.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B761051F8 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:38:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhost.reuver.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.reuver.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33900-09 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:38:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from pc10 (unknown [10.0.0.150]) by mailhost.reuver.local (Postfix) with SMTP id 690E351EE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:38:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Marcel de Reuver" To: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:37:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <41E1A491.5070005@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at reuver.org Subject: RE: Opengroupware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:38:05 -0000 > > First of all this is a port which requires the Linux/ELF > binary emulation to be installed. > > Second - You shouldn't search in /usr/lib for required > libraries. Instead you should search in ... > > -> /compat/linux/usr/lib > > Because Opengroupware is searching for the Linux version > of OpenSSL! > > I bet you'll find something like this ... > > root@abyssone# ls -la /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 194416 Sep 24 2003 > /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6b > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Dec 6 19:46 > /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.2 -> libssl.so.0.9.6b > > > Do you see the problem? It is >> libssl.so.0.9.6b << > but Opengroupware is searching for >> libssl.so.0.9.6 << > > So this should solve the problem: > > ln -s /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6b \ > /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6 > Also required: ln -s /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6b /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 Opengroupware is now complaining about: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found Best regards, Marcel de Reuver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:01:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF32016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:01:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F7943D2F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:01:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC807BD61A; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:01:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F4118B43; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:01:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 92151-07; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:01:24 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2909A18B18; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:01:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E1B7C1.8040806@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:01:21 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel de Reuver References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opengroupware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:01:42 -0000 > > > Also required: > ln -s /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6b > /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 Yea I did forget that one ... > Opengroupware is now complaining about: > /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found Which linux_base port did you install (8 or 7)? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:03:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127F516A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:03:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A8943D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:03:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D4ABD61A; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:03:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D71218B46; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:03:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 08264-07; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:02:59 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB9E18B18; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:02:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E1B822.9040502@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:02:58 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel de Reuver References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opengroupware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:03:47 -0000 btw, read one of my past email posts: -> http://tinyurl.com/6xk3c Marcel de Reuver schrieb: >>First of all this is a port which requires the Linux/ELF >>binary emulation to be installed. >> >>Second - You shouldn't search in /usr/lib for required >>libraries. Instead you should search in ... >> >> -> /compat/linux/usr/lib >> >>Because Opengroupware is searching for the Linux version >>of OpenSSL! >> >>I bet you'll find something like this ... >> >>root@abyssone# ls -la /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.* >>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 194416 Sep 24 2003 >>/compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6b >>lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Dec 6 19:46 >>/compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.2 -> libssl.so.0.9.6b >> >> >>Do you see the problem? It is >> libssl.so.0.9.6b << >>but Opengroupware is searching for >> libssl.so.0.9.6 << >> >>So this should solve the problem: >> >>ln -s /compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6b \ >>/compat/linux/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6 >> > > > Also required: > ln -s /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6b > /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 > > Opengroupware is now complaining about: > /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found > > Best regards, > Marcel de Reuver > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e1b268365836148510072! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:08:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1263B16A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:08:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14C643D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:08:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6CFAA1F9270E for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:08:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 47F8C1F926E2 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:08:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:08:35 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14545951.20050110000835@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Copying directory trees only for new files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:08:38 -0000 What's the safest and most elegant way to copy an entire directory tree such that only newer files and directories are actually copied? Essentially I have one directory that contains my test version of my Web site, and another directory that contains the production version of the site. Normally the two directories are mirror images of each other. When I update one or more files in the test tree, I want to have some easy and safe way to copy the test tree to the production tree--but for efficiency's sake, I only want to actually physically copy the data for a file or directory if the source version has been modified more recently than the destination version. The cp command looks like it would do the trick, except it doesn't appear to have any option that copies only newer files and directories. I suspect there are probably a dozen or more UNIX commands that do this sort of thing, and/or perhaps some FreeBSD-specific commands that do it as well. Any suggestions on which commands to look at? If I can get this to work cleanly and in a straightforward way I may be able to liberate myself from the creaky old copy of Visual InterDev that I use for Web development. UltraEdit (which I use on Windows) will let me edit files directly to and from an FTP destination, so I could use that to make my changes, then use a magic command to copy the changed files from the test tree to the production tree once I've tested them. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:14:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C7416A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:14:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F1143D49 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:14:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out012.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109231400.DCBM10436.out012.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:14:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB7C11CDA for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57866-01 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4D73E11CD1; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:13:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:13:59 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109231359.GK20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109205123.GI20686@keyslapper.org> <41E19CD3.30602@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109211409.GJ20686@keyslapper.org> <41E19FC0.2000808@dd.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E19FC0.2000808@dd.chalmers.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:14:00 -0600 Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:14:01 -0000 On 01/09/05 10:18 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > On 01/09/05 10:06 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > > > >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: > >> > > > > > > What does the cards config block look like in your xorg.conf? > > > > Lou > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "nvidia" > Option "NvAGP" "1" > EndSection Try adding this: Option "RenderAccel" "True" Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ I object to intellect without discipline; I object to power without constructive purpose. -- Spock, "The Squire of Gothos", stardate 2124.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:19:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F6616A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:19:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4CA43D4C for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:19:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out012.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050109231904.DDDP10436.out012.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:19:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A258611CDA for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57866-02 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7684711CD1; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:19:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:19:03 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050109231903.GL20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20050106191413.GH7017@keyslapper.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050106191413.GH7017@keyslapper.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:19:04 -0600 Subject: Re: Samba problems - stopped working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:19:05 -0000 On 01/06/05 02:14 PM, Louis LeBlanc sat at the `puter and typed: > Anyone else seeing problems with Samba3? > > swat dumps core every time I try to connect - SIGABRT. Smbd & nmbd > don't pick up the phone (yes, netstat -an shows listeners on ports 139 > and 443). They don't log anything, just no answer. Well, I got the network mounts working (no printer shares), and have rebuilt samba3 several times. Swat still cores, and I can't figure it out. It's still going south in the authentication phase, and even if I put it in demo mode with the -a switch. I haven't had authentication problems with any other apps. My current port config is as follows: $ make showconfig ===> The following configuration options are set for samba-3.0.10,1: LDAP=on "With LDAP support" ADS=on "With Active Directory support" CUPS=on "With CUPS printing support" WINBIND=on "With WinBIND support" ACL_SUPPORT=off "With ACL support" SYSLOG=off "With Syslog support" QUOTAS=off "With Quota support" UTMP=on "With UTMP support" MSDFS=off "With MSDFS support" SAM_XML=off "With XML smbpasswd backend" SAM_MYSQL=off "With MYSQL smbpasswd backend" SAM_PGSQL=off "With PostgreSQL smbpasswd backend" SAM_OLD_LDAP=off "With Samba2.x LDAP smbpasswd backend" PAM_SMBPASS=off "With SMB PAM module" EXP_MODULES=off "With experimental module(s)" POPT=on "With installed POPT library" Anyone else running samba-3.0.10.1 from the ports that saw this? Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Training is everything. The peach was once a bitter almond; cauliflower is nothing but cabbage with a college education. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:40:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E284116A4D7 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:40:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9347743D3F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b154.otenet.gr [212.205.244.162]) j09NeNXV022258 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:40:23 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j09NeMF2083041 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:40:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j09NeMD6083040 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:40:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:40:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050109234021.GB75804@gothmog.gr> References: <14545951.20050110000835@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14545951.20050110000835@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Copying directory trees only for new files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:40:34 -0000 On 2005-01-10 00:08, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > What's the safest and most elegant way to copy an entire directory tree > such that only newer files and directories are actually copied? cpio(1) does that by default (to overwrite files in the destination path that are newer with older copies from the source hierarchy, you have to force overwriting with the -u option). You can use it in `pass through' mode to copy entire hierarchies to another place: % gothmog:/tmp$ rm -fr newstuff % gothmog:/tmp$ find oldstuff | xargs ls -ld % drwxrwxr-x 4 giorgos wheel 512 Jan 10 01:34 oldstuff % drwxrwxr-x 3 giorgos wheel 512 Jan 10 01:34 oldstuff/bar % drwxrwxr-x 2 giorgos wheel 512 Jan 10 01:34 oldstuff/bar/baz % -rw-rw-r-- 1 giorgos wheel 12 Jan 10 01:34 oldstuff/bar/baz/kazaam % drwxrwxr-x 3 giorgos wheel 512 Jan 10 01:34 oldstuff/foo % drwxrwxr-x 2 giorgos wheel 512 Jan 10 01:34 oldstuff/foo/bar % -rw-rw-r-- 1 giorgos wheel 12 Jan 10 01:35 oldstuff/foo/bar/xyz % gothmog:/tmp$ cp -Rp oldstuff newstuff % gothmog:/tmp$ touch oldstuff/bar/baz/kazaam % gothmog:/tmp$ ( cd oldstuff ; find . | cpio -p -dmv /tmp/newstuff ) % /tmp/newstuff/./foo % /tmp/newstuff/./foo/bar % cpio: /tmp/newstuff/./foo/bar/xyz not created: newer or same age version exists % /tmp/newstuff/./bar % /tmp/newstuff/./bar/baz % /tmp/newstuff/./bar/baz/kazaam % 1 block % gothmog:/tmp$ Note that foo/bar/xyz is skipped, since it didn't change, but bar/baz/kazaam is copied because it was touched. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:41:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D80016A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:41:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhost.reuver.org (fia1-7.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.7.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C9443D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@de.reuver.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.reuver.local [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.reuver.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D3D51F7 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:41:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhost.reuver.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.reuver.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63402-06 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:40:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from pc10 (unknown [10.0.0.150]) by mailhost.reuver.local (Postfix) with SMTP id 33D6651D9 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:40:59 +0100 (CET) From: "Marcel de Reuver" To: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:40:49 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <41E1B7C1.8040806@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at reuver.org Subject: RE: Opengroupware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:41:00 -0000 > > > > Also required: > > ln -s /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6b > > /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 > > Yea I did forget that one ... > > > Opengroupware is now complaining about: > > /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found > > Which linux_base port did you install (8 or 7)? > After deinstalling linux_base version 7x and installing linux_base-8 it is starting. Now there is something with the version of Postgres. I will look into that later. Thanks for the hints! Best regards, Marcel de Reuver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:48:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1913016A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:48:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94E543D45 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F62BD61C; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:48:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3118018B57; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:48:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 08264-08; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:48:13 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E74D18B2F; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:48:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E1C2BB.40102@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:48:11 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel de Reuver References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opengroupware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:48:17 -0000 I additionally had some kerberos issues, because I did compile PostgreSQL with Kerberos support. If you did the same, you'll need to install the *Linux* Kerberos libraries as well. I would also suggest to start Opengroupware manually during your test period, not using the rcNG script. And finally use the exact steps from ... -> http://tinyurl.com/5coq6 (Section 4) ... to initialize the Ogo system and use their apache setup. Marcel de Reuver schrieb: >>>Also required: >>>ln -s /compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6b >>>/compat/linux/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 >> >>Yea I did forget that one ... >> >> >>>Opengroupware is now complaining about: >>> /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found >> >>Which linux_base port did you install (8 or 7)? >> > > > After deinstalling linux_base version 7x and installing linux_base-8 it is > starting. Now there is something with the version of Postgres. > > I will look into that later. Thanks for the hints! > > Best regards, > Marcel de Reuver > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e1c12e730671228015368! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 00:02:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9384B16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:02:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB9443D49 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:02:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.10])2004))freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:02:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml10so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.80]) by pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IA200227QRS9480@pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:02:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IA20074QQRSVJ@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:02:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:02:16 -0700 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <20050109185216.GF20686@keyslapper.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050110000216.GA1858@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> <200501091558.38291.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> <1105287426.624.23.camel@chaucer> <41E15D57.6020007@vilot.com> <1105291493.624.27.camel@chaucer> <20050109185216.GF20686@keyslapper.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:02:41 -0000 On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 01:52:16PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > [Jeffrey Friedl Search Tool] > > I'll put my copy at the following URL for a while in case anyone wants > it: http://ww2.keyslapper.org/search It appears that that should read: http://www.keyslapper.org/search or http://ww2.keyslapper.org:8080/search -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 00:17:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E1A16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:17:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.68.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3030B43D39 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id j0A0HaDP026178; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:17:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:17:36 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200501100017.j0A0Had6026177@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: algould@datawok.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:17:43 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould wrote: >Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the Mac OSX was--and unless something has changed drastically in the last few weeks, still is--based upon NextStep, another proprietary UNIX that was based upon a Mach 2.4-2.5 kernel and 4.3BSD above that. >applications you need. I talked my 11 year old nephew through an >operating system upgrade (clean installation) of his ibook over the >phone -- including wireless networking with WEP. > Unfortunately, Apple has not released a version for Intel processors, so it won't help someone with a pee cee instead of a Mac. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 00:27:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E625816A4CE; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:27:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734D243D1F; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:27:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0A0RANY013222; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:27:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:27:10 -0500 To: Robert Watson , Mark From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 - long uptimes... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:27:18 -0000 At 4:26 PM +0000 1/9/05, Robert Watson wrote: >On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Mark wrote: > >> > FreeBSD will run for years without a boot in many cases. >> > > Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever > > have to recompile your kernel? :) > >The longest personal uptime I've had is just under two years, and >that was for a UPS-backed natbox in my parents' basement. [...] At >some point, the power went out for longer than the UPS could keep >it up, so the uptime went tumbling down... I think it was up for >about 540-550 days at that point. My main "production-system" use of FreeBSD is for a chat server, which needs to be up all the time or everyone stops "chatting" and starts yelling at me. The longest uptimes I've had so far are: * 373 days 10 hours (a 6-hour long power outage) * 599 days 14 hours (a UPS melt-down failure) * 497 days 18 hours (hard disk failure) The third one many really have been an OS failure, which I will not bother trying to describe in detail... One problem with long uptimes like that: If the system does finally die due to an OS error, it is hard to get motivated to track it down. After all, the OS has had two years worth of changes committed to it since the time you compiled the snapshot which *maybe* has an error! To remain safe when going for long uptimes like this, I had a second machine running the same release of FreeBSD, and I could build the latest snapshot of the OS on that. I would then then copy over the bits and pieces needed to keep the production system safe (such as new versions of sendmail or sshd). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 00:36:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC3716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:36:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87E943D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:36:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so703922wri for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:36:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZSbKEjxdoJyXN+ffSeNsHAiSL7hR+v1JVBokt5ai7TPfLTTApFSd2fYVoXzaxYDoUZt/JnElUOEWSdiQcdhuKSELqiPrAuKToRGoNPQKrK09fh//m5AY6H86txxkbdPG4G8UD3bdLE3w+WAqhKIc2yeszRLaNnMmXFJWzZgbC64= Received: by 10.54.15.65 with SMTP id 65mr402020wro; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.37.19 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:36:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19861fba0501091636126ff34f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:36:18 +0100 From: J65nko BSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <14545951.20050110000835@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <14545951.20050110000835@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Copying directory trees only for new files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: J65nko BSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:36:20 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:08:35 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > What's the safest and most elegant way to copy an entire directory tree > such that only newer files and directories are actually copied? > Have a look at "rsync" http://rsync.samba.org/ It is in ports ;) [snip] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:01:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2EE16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:01:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C586243D67 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:01:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 26810 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2005 01:07:31 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.68?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 01:07:31 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <200501100017.j0A0Had6026177@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200501100017.j0A0Had6026177@mp.cs.niu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <279B98C7-62A3-11D9-B94A-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:01:26 -0600 To: FreeBSD_Questions FreeBSD_Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:01:29 -0000 On Jan 9, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould > > wrote: > >> Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the > > Mac OSX was--and unless something has changed drastically in the > last > few weeks, still is--based upon NextStep, another proprietary UNIX > that was > based upon a Mach 2.4-2.5 kernel and 4.3BSD above that. Thats a Linux fallacy, that the kernel makes the OS. Apple's collection of command line utilities we commonly think of as the Unix interface come from FreeBSD. As for what I've seen of the Darwin kernel, in grand BSD tradition Apple freely picked from here and there, whatever they thought best, and made what can only be said to be their own. >> applications you need. I talked my 11 year old nephew through an >> operating system upgrade (clean installation) of his ibook over the >> phone -- including wireless networking with WEP. >> > Unfortunately, Apple has not released a version for Intel > processors, > so it won't help someone with a pee cee instead of a Mac. Wrong, its called Darwin. If you think FreeBSD is raw then go play with Darwin for a bit. Darwin is used for both i386 and PowerPC. MacOS X is Darwin plus the fantastic Apple GUI and other neat Apple stuff. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:07:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3960916A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:07:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0279943D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:07:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005011001072701300t7seke>; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:07:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 63021 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 01:09:51 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 01:09:51 -0000 Message-ID: <41E1D663.9020103@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:12:03 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3985CD5C87CE10E543D2D17D" Subject: laptop won't boot past 2.1x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:07:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3985CD5C87CE10E543D2D17D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a laptop that I originally installed 5.2.1 on. When 5.3 came out, I installed it immediately, only to find that the boot hung at detecting my ATA cd-rw/dvd drive. Verbose mode stops at: GEOM: Configure ad0s1 start ... length ... end ... GEOM: Configure ad0s2[a-f] start ... length ... end ... (Sorry, there's no serial port on the laptop. I can type it out by hand if need be, though.) With the latest stable and atapicam/pass/cd built in, it ends with lines similar to: (probe[0-5]:...) error 22 (probe[0-5]:...) Unretryable error Otherwise, it ends with the same GEOM: Configure lines I have tried the latest HEAD as a FreesBIE disk and have gotten the same results. A FreesBIE -CURRENT from around the time of the 5.2.1 release works, initializing pass0 right after the error22 lines. Any suggestions on the problem or how to clarify it? --------------enig3985CD5C87CE10E543D2D17D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB4dZomcXjc1XBrAQRArA1AKCRRCLFEgoiJKQbPqNH2HOmJ7xGKwCaAw5h Xm3jMsOYzQmlkV4abNdOenw= =CgdU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3985CD5C87CE10E543D2D17D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:08:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850CE16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:08:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtaout-m.tc.umn.edu (mtaout-m.tc.umn.edu [160.94.23.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB9A43D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:08:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duns0014@umn.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (ip68-104-63-160.lv.lv.cox.net [68.104.63.160]) by mtaout-m.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:08:09 -0600 (CST) X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] ip68-104-63-160.lv.lv.cox.net [68.104.63.160] #+TS+AU+HN From: Joe Dunsmore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 05:05:57 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501090505.58359.duns0014@umn.edu> Subject: Installation of 5.3 over network fails on boot up. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:08:10 -0000 I was going to install 5.3 on a computer using the install over network option. I imaged boot.flp, kern1.flp, and kern2.flp to floppy disks using dd (not cp) and started the computer up with the boot disk in the drive. After seeing the ascii spinning thing (|, /, -, \, etc.), the computer spit this out: error 4 lba 248 Invalid format FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:fd(0,a)/kernel boot: No /kernel FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:fd(0,a)/kernel boot: I tried this on a few different disks, so that's not the problem. Any ideas what's wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:20:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE2016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:20:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao03.cox.net (lakermmtao03.cox.net [68.230.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C56043D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:20:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050110011958.FHQJ2250.lakermmtao03.cox.net@localhost> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:19:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:20:29 -0500 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110012029.GA11153@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501100017.j0A0Had6026177@mp.cs.niu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501100017.j0A0Had6026177@mp.cs.niu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:20:00 -0000 On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 06:17:36PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould > wrote: > > >Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the > > Mac OSX was--and unless something has changed drastically in the last > few weeks, still is--based upon NextStep, another proprietary UNIX that was > based upon a Mach 2.4-2.5 kernel and 4.3BSD above that. >From http://developer.apple.com/unix/: Specifically, it is based in part on BSD 4.4 Lite. On a system level, many of the design decisions are made to align with BSD-style UNIX systems. Most libraries and utilities are from FreeBSD (http://www.freebsd.org/), but some are derived from NetBSD (http://www.netbsd.org/). For future development, Mac OS X has adopted FreeBSD as a reference code base for BSD technology. Work is ongoing to more closely synchronize all BSD tools and libraries with the FreeBSD-stable branch.. Your statements applied to the original OSX. It has shifted to 4.4BSD, Mach 3, and FBSD during the course of development, with lots of contributions from Net and OpenBSD. The changes didn't happen in the last few weeks. They happened continuously during the system's development. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:30:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A4F16A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:30:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 298E243D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:30:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 01:30:21 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:30:21 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <20050109132854.GD44181@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: <20050109132854.GD44181@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091730.21540.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: william gatlin Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:30:22 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 05:28 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-01-09 16:53, william gatlin wrote: > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on > > modifying the file, I loaded it and got a lot of error code 1 > > messages that I never did figure out. I changed the partitioning > > and allowed 1/2 a gig for the root directory and loaded it again. > > Netscape is acting silly. Avoid downloading ISO images with it. The > ISO images are available through FTP, so you can use any plain good > old FTP client[1] to get a copy of the images. > > [1] Even the command line "ftp" program that comes with Windows can > be used, if you feel like doing so. Personally, I think this is easier, especially because it will download the file without mangling it, and the commands are very intuitive and are common to all ftp servers. GUI ftp clients mostly just enter these same commands when you click the buttons. If you're using Win, first thing you should do is click on Start, then Run, then type in "cmd" (no quotes) and hit enter. The commands will be typed in that window. Sorry if this seems rudimentary, but it can't hurt to mention these things, especially if you're coming from Win. As the Win ftp client is/was (not sure anymore) essentially the freebsd ftp client (iirc the UC copyright is still in ftp.exe), you can use these commands on either one ("ftp>" and "%" are prompts and shouldn't be typed): % ftp ftp4.freebsd.org (this is a mirror close to me) You have to log in anonymously: Name (ftp4.freebsd.org:yourmachine): anonymous Password: (just hit enter) Then we should change directories remotely and locally, so we are downloading from the right place into the right place: ftp> cd /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.3 ftp> lcd /path/to/download/dir (change the path in the second command to be your local download directory - in Win you might have to use backslashes to refer to a local path, such as C:\path\to\download\dir , but it's been a while) Now, download the two main install ISOs: ftp> get 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso ftp> get 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso And, if you want: ftp> get 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso ftp> get 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso When it's all done downloading, type: ftp> bye There you go, and you can use this on any platform, as long as you can enter commands to the ftp server directly. Once you do this once or twice, you'll find it's so simple that you'll probably never use a GUI ftp client again. Of course, this doesn't solve the rest of your problems, but you might be able to use this no matter what you decide to install. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:34:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A71316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:34:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB2743D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:34:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jeff@kreska.org) Received: from hacking.kicks-ass.org ([67.163.98.154]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005011001344401400gkl6ce>; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:34:44 +0000 Received: from mail.kreska.org (ecs2400 [192.168.0.8]) by hacking.kicks-ass.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0A1Ye1a029787 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:34:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from Jeff@Kreska.org) Received: from 192.168.0.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jkreska) by mail.kreska.org with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:34:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1849.192.168.0.2.1105320883.squirrel@mail.kreska.org> In-Reply-To: <20041201224338.7bf700bd.nico.meijer@zonnet.nl> References: <200412011511.13016.justin@cpaaa.org> <20041201224338.7bf700bd.nico.meijer@zonnet.nl> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:34:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeff" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: moregroupware not working because of PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:34:45 -0000 I tend to belive that the latest php4 port with modules is broken. I had to recompile php4 with static ssl support to allow squirelmail to connect to to my imaps server. Are there any other people having problems with the latest php4 port and modules? Maybe were all just missing a crucial config step. My System is a fairly stock 5.3R with the exception I cvsup my ports tree. On Wed, December 1, 2004 3:43 pm, Nico Meijer said: > Hi Justin, > > Lemme get 'rough' on you... ;-) > >> When I log on to my web server where running moregroupware >> ( www.webserver.com/webmail/setup/index.php ) I get : >> "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: session_id() >> in /usr/local/www/moregroupware/include/log.inc.php on line 70" > > What FreeBSD version? What web server software? If apache, which > version? Which version of moregroupware? How did you install > moregroupware? How did you install php? Which version? Any extensions? > If so, which? Catch my drift? ;-) > > Assuming an up-to-date FreeBSD 4.x or 5.x and apache-1.3.x from ports > and php4-4.3.x from ports, I'd say you missed php4-session. > > What does `pkg_info |grep php4` tell you? One of my boxen says: > php4-4.3.9 PHP Scripting Language (Apache Module and CLI) > php4-mysql-4.3.9 The mysql shared extension for php > php4-pcre-4.3.9 The pcre shared extension for php > php4-pear-4.3.9 PEAR framework for PHP > php4-session-4.3.9 The session shared extension for php > php4-xml-4.3.9 The xml shared extension for php > >> I think it has something to do with the /usr/local/etc/php.conf or >> php.ini I know this is not a moregroupware problem because I get the >> same error with squirrelmail. > > I think you got this part right. ;-) > > HTH... Nico > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:39:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D59716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:39:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3154343D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:39:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out012.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050110013902.EHAQ10436.out012.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:39:02 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B388911CD9 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59059-06 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 84BD611CD8; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:39:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:39:01 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110013901.GM20686@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1105278401.624.21.camel@chaucer> <200501091558.38291.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> <1105287426.624.23.camel@chaucer> <41E15D57.6020007@vilot.com> <1105291493.624.27.camel@chaucer> <20050109185216.GF20686@keyslapper.org> <20050110000216.GA1858@procyon.nekulturny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050110000216.GA1858@procyon.nekulturny.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:39:02 -0600 Subject: Re: mkisofs and growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:39:03 -0000 On 01/09/05 05:02 PM, Danny MacMillan sat at the `puter and typed: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 01:52:16PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > > > [Jeffrey Friedl Search Tool] > > > > I'll put my copy at the following URL for a while in case anyone wants > > it: http://ww2.keyslapper.org/search > > It appears that that should read: > > http://www.keyslapper.org/search > > or > > http://ww2.keyslapper.org:8080/search Doh! Thanks for the correction! I hafta get an ISP that doesn't block port 80. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Bride, n.: A woman with a fine prospect of happiness behind her. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:42:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82B116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:42:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B562B43D46 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:42:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005011001425401500nctdae>; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:42:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 73528 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 01:45:19 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 01:45:19 -0000 Message-ID: <41E1DEB5.1010307@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:47:33 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <200501090505.58359.duns0014@umn.edu> In-Reply-To: <200501090505.58359.duns0014@umn.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF875CC49040F93A3F1EADAA8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Installation of 5.3 over network fails on boot up. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:42:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF875CC49040F93A3F1EADAA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit from this list: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:27:51AM +0100, Arne Engø wrote: > >/> I have been using FreeBSD earlier, but am new to the 5.0-Release. />/> The boot.flp image seems to be twice the size of an ordinary floppy, while the other four images in the floppies-directory fits on exactly one disk each. What are the BOOT.FLP disk for ? How is it to be used, and how do I use it on a 1.44 - floppy disk drive system ??? I would appreciate a speedy reply, as I'm trying to set up a new system with Freebsd 5.0-release. /> > You don't use boot.flp with a 1.44Mb floppy drive. You can use > boot.flp with a 2.88Mb floppy drive, but relatively few people have > one of those. You can also use it to build certain styles of bootable > CD Rom -- although I think even that use is verging on the obsolete > nowadays. Joe Dunsmore wrote: >I was going to install 5.3 on a computer using the install over network >option. I imaged boot.flp, kern1.flp, and kern2.flp to floppy disks using dd >(not cp) and started the computer up with the boot disk in the drive. After >seeing the ascii spinning thing (|, /, -, \, etc.), the computer spit this >out: > >error 4 lba 248 >Invalid format > >FreeBSD/i386 boot >Default: 0:fd(0,a)/kernel >boot: >No /kernel > >FreeBSD/i386 boot >Default: 0:fd(0,a)/kernel >boot: > > >I tried this on a few different disks, so that's not the problem. Any ideas >what's wrong? >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --------------enigF875CC49040F93A3F1EADAA8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB4d64mcXjc1XBrAQRAiNUAJ9gJZUw+zndeLZsAtWf8iwvMxNwIwCgiZ+R caMOUeDeE6bXyS1I+CVsNfE= =Xa1l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF875CC49040F93A3F1EADAA8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:46:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167D516A4CE; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:46:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com (imo-m21.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6964C43D31; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Tm4528@aol.com) Received: from Tm4528@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.146.3c05bd16 (3964); Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:46:15 -0500 (EST) From: Tm4528@aol.com Message-ID: <146.3c05bd16.2f133865@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:46:13 EST To: rwatson@freebsd.org, tedm@toybox.placo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: dave@horsfall.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:46:23 -0000 I find in amazing that a discussion of how FreeBSD 5.3 sucks compared to 4.x can segue into an discussion of FreeBSD vs Windows. I guess thats the politics of computing. And also a commentary on the mentality of the kind of person that uses FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:47:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5D716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:47:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao10.cox.net (lakermmtao10.cox.net [68.230.240.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338043D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:47:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ned.woody@cox.net) Received: from ip68-13-42-191.om.om.cox.net ([68.13.42.191]) by lakermmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP <20050110014706.GNDS1657.lakermmtao10.cox.net@ip68-13-42-191.om.om.cox.net> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:47:06 -0500 From: Ned Harrison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:47:46 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091947.46620.ned.woody@cox.net> Subject: Firefox with "Spinlock" error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:47:10 -0000 I keep getting this error when I try to start Firefox: Fatal error 'Spinlock called when not threaded.' at line 83 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_spinlock.c (errno = 0) Abort trap (core dumped) I read from a November post that this was related to out of date files in the ~/.mozilla directory. I could not find an answer from the mozilla web cite so I totally deleted that directory. Still have the problem. Any other suggestions? Thank you in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 01:49:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D870A16A4E4; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1AA43D53; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:49:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Tm4528@aol.com) Received: from Tm4528@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.e6.60ddf79e (3964); Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:48:57 -0500 (EST) From: Tm4528@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:48:56 EST To: rwatson@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: dave@horsfall.org cc: tedm@toybox.placo.com cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:49:08 -0000 Your "point" doesn't address the lack of support for major chipsets, so that users can utilitize the latest fast processors available. The point is that those using 4.x because of its performance advantages, cannot use it with the latest processors because the MBs don't work in 4.x. THAT is the problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:01:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D2716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:01:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20FD43D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:01:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 115CF85651; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:30:59 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:30:59 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Tm4528@aol.com Message-ID: <20050110020059.GK88329@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aUGckSYYync4w83/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:01:04 -0000 --aUGckSYYync4w83/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, 9 January 2005 at 20:48:56 -0500, Tm4528@aol.com wrote: > Your "point" doesn't address the lack of support for major chipsets, > so that users can utilitize the latest fast processors > available. The point is that those using 4.x because of its > performance advantages, cannot use it with the latest processors > because the MBs don't work in 4.x. THAT is the problem. I don't see any point, correct or otherwise. From the weekly "how to": Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said?=20 4. Are you sure you understand the question? 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. See http://www.lemis.com/questions.html for the original message, which is much more detailed. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --aUGckSYYync4w83/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4eHbIubykFB6QiMRAmYOAKCHqurkLVshKo+oJJEDpe4bjfmZOgCfQ1xr d4xv3twwjKHbe8ypDobjzvc= =BNgW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aUGckSYYync4w83/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63D116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:10:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7319043D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0A2AMHg011502 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:10:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:10:21 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 - long uptimes... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:10:25 -0000 At 7:27 PM -0500 1/9/05, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > >My main "production-system" use of FreeBSD is for a chat server, >which needs to be up all the time or everyone stops "chatting" and >starts yelling at me. The longest uptimes I've had so far are: > >* 373 days 10 hours (a 6-hour long power outage) >* 599 days 14 hours (a UPS melt-down failure) >* 497 days 18 hours (hard disk failure) I should note that the above uptimes were running 4.x systems (and the first one *might* even be a 3.x system). While I had forgotten that subject was talking about "FreeBSD 5.3", I obviously have not been running 5.3 for the past four years! -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:13:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65C016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:13:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A14A43D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:13:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C6B610E; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:13:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41930-08; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:13:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E23260E7; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:13:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E1E4C0.1060503@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:13:20 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 - long uptimes... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:13:23 -0000 Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 7:27 PM -0500 1/9/05, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > >> >> My main "production-system" use of FreeBSD is for a chat server, >> which needs to be up all the time or everyone stops "chatting" and >> starts yelling at me. The longest uptimes I've had so far are: >> >> * 373 days 10 hours (a 6-hour long power outage) >> * 599 days 14 hours (a UPS melt-down failure) >> * 497 days 18 hours (hard disk failure) > > > I should note that the above uptimes were running 4.x systems (and > the first one *might* even be a 3.x system). While I had forgotten > that subject was talking about "FreeBSD 5.3", I obviously have not > been running 5.3 for the past four years! > Long uptimes = unsecured+unpatched boxes. Long uptimes? No thanks. -- Best regards, Chris Magellan was the first strait man. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:17:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B39F16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:17:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F7543D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:17:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0F3F251252; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:17:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:17:02 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ned Harrison Message-ID: <20050110021702.GA68470@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200501091947.46620.ned.woody@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501091947.46620.ned.woody@cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox with "Spinlock" error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:17:04 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 07:47:46PM +0000, Ned Harrison wrote: > I keep getting this error when I try to start Firefox: =20 >=20 > Fatal error 'Spinlock called when not threaded.' at line 83 in=20 > file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_spinlock.c (errno =3D 0) > Abort trap (core dumped) >=20 > I read from a November post that this was related to out of date files in= the=20 > ~/.mozilla directory. No. It's related to being linked to multiple thread libraries, see /usr/src/UPDATING. Kris --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4eWeWry0BWjoQKURAj3bAJ0RrIjh7DNBF7SZOKaj1WQoITpSNACfQ7Ug 6Ooj66o8EeeIWuQKUX90syo= =zjSv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:18:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1520816A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:18:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B132743D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:18:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 02:18:00 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:18:00 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091818.00488.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: william gatlin Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:18:01 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 12:53 am, "william gatlin" wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying > the file, I loaded it and got a lot of error code 1 messages that I > never did figure out. I changed the partitioning and allowed 1/2 a > gig for the root directory and loaded it again. > > All seemed to go well untill I tryed to configure the X.org windowing > system. Nothing in /stand/sysinstall would do any configuration of > X. Went to the net and got instructions. Finally got X to work and > found vidtune. > > Kdm comes up with a log in screen which just leads to another log in > screen. ctrl-alt-backspace won't turn x off as it keeps comming back > on it's own. Nothing leads to a window manager other than the little > one that comes with X. > > I re-downloaded the window managers from the net and hoped that would > fix it. It didn't. I'm sure that the trouble is in some little > config file somewhere or another but I just don't have the time as I > need a running system going. > > My opinion is that x.org isn't integrated quite well enough yet for > prime time. My BSD books don't have the new commands and other > information to be of any use and the Man pages that downloaded were > of no help either. Actually, you've touched on a problem not so much with X, but with integration of a graphics server with an OS. Windows and *nix approach this problem differently, but both solutions have problems, though with Windows it's more of a security risk (as it is with *nix, just not as much). However, X and xorg specifically has come quite a long way, and once you get it working you just leave it alone and forget about it. The main problem is that none of the autoconfig scripts do a very good job (hasn't changed much since XFree), but many people here can help with manual configuration, me included. If you need some help with something beyond what people have already suggested, then please feel free to ask. > So for now I'm going to try to load Slackware and hope that maybe in > a year BSD will be easier to wade through. I have to admit a bit of > sorrow in having to do this as I wanted them both on the same > machine. Slackware isn't really that different in how X is integrated. In fact, Slackware is one of the bare-bones type distros, "pure" Linux, as it were. > At the same time I wish to communicate my respect and admiration for > the great job the BSD community is doing and hope in no way to > communicate any disregaurd for everyones efforts. > > Right now I have to have Windows up and running also and am watching > it go into a self destruct mode from somthing that it downloaded from > the net all by it's self with no human operator touching it. There > are so many Popups I had to pull the net cable just to stop it. They > don't get no respect. > > It is my hope that the various Windows emulators will/are working > well enough to run some of my mission critical programs. Espesially > 'Trade Station' . I can't imagine having thousands of dollars riding > on Microsoft reliability. Well, not sure how committed you are to your decision, but I know for a fact that you can get much further along with configuring xorg and/or a wm or desktop if you want some help with it. Occasionally it will simply not work with some hardware, but that's not that common anymore, and it appears your hardware works. Some people have already given some suggestions, but trust me: Slackware isn't easier. You might be more comfortable with it, and that's fine, but if you can get that then you definitely can understand FreeBSD. Up to you. I use both, but FreeBSD is what's running most of the time. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:21:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F46A16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:21:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA6243D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:21:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp36-4.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.36.4]) j0A2LF1B095190; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:51:16 +1030 (CST) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: Joshua Tinnin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:51:14 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <20050109132854.GD44181@gothmog.gr> <200501091730.21540.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200501091730.21540.krinklyfig@spymac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101251.14691.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> cc: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:21:25 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:00 pm, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Sunday 09 January 2005 05:28 am, Giorgos Keramidas > > wrote: > > On 2005-01-09 16:53, william gatlin > > wrote: > > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > > > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > > > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on > > > modifying the file, I loaded it and got a lot of error code 1 > > > messages that I never did figure out. I changed the partitioning > > > and allowed 1/2 a gig for the root directory and loaded it again. > > > > Netscape is acting silly. Avoid downloading ISO images with it. The > > ISO images are available through FTP, so you can use any plain good > > old FTP client[1] to get a copy of the images. > > > > [1] Even the command line "ftp" program that comes with Windows can > > be used, if you feel like doing so. > > Personally, I think this is easier, especially because it will download > the file without mangling it, and the commands are very intuitive and > are common to all ftp servers. GUI ftp clients mostly just enter these > same commands when you click the buttons. > > If you're using Win, first thing you should do is click on Start, then > Run, then type in "cmd" (no quotes) and hit enter. The commands will be > typed in that window. Sorry if this seems rudimentary, but it can't > hurt to mention these things, especially if you're coming from Win. > > As the Win ftp client is/was (not sure anymore) essentially the freebsd > ftp client (iirc the UC copyright is still in ftp.exe), you can use > these commands on either one ("ftp>" and "%" are prompts and shouldn't > be typed): > > % ftp ftp4.freebsd.org > > (this is a mirror close to me) > > You have to log in anonymously: > > Name (ftp4.freebsd.org:yourmachine): anonymous > Password: > > (just hit enter) > > Then we should change directories remotely and locally, so we are > downloading from the right place into the right place: > > ftp> cd /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.3 > ftp> lcd /path/to/download/dir > > (change the path in the second command to be your local download > directory - in Win you might have to use backslashes to refer to a > local path, such as > C:\path\to\download\dir , but it's been a while) > > Now, download the two main install ISOs: > On a MS system you'll probably need to set the file mode to prevent \n being translated to \r\n. It can be quite frustarating to realise this only after hours of download :- ftp> binary > ftp> get 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > ftp> get 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso > > And, if you want: > > ftp> get 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso > ftp> get 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso > > When it's all done downloading, type: > > ftp> bye > Malcolm > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:33:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE1C16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:33:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67AB43D46 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:33:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050110023300112008lpene> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:33:01 +0000 Message-ID: <41E1E95C.5040803@att.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:33:00 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ssh file transfers - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:33:08 -0000 I'm using ssh to connect from my local FreeBSD machine to a distant FreeBSD machine. I want to copy a file structure, i.e., a directory and its subdirectories, from the distant machine to my local machine. I can do this fine using WS_FTP Pro in Windows, using another local Windows machine, and then use WS_FTP Pro to copy the files to the FreeBSD local machine from the Windows computer. It seems like I should be able to perform the same copy process directly, from one FreeBSD machine to the other, using ssh. I can connect to the distant machine just fine using ssh. For purposes of discussion, I'm logged into the distant machine as jay@distantmachine.net. I'm logged in to the directory /www/jay and my localmachine directory (now empty) is /home/www/jay. I want everything in the www/jay directory on distantmachine to be copied as the home/www/jay directory on localmachine. Guidance on the commands and syntax to use will be much appreciated. My follow-on question is -- Is there a way to synchronize the local machine with the distant machine if changes are made on the distant machine, and vice-versa, on a generic basis, i.e. "distantmachine is now the master, correct localmachine to agree"? Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:36:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E551016A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:36:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274BA43D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:36:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from [192.168.8.50] (ppp19-170.static.internode.on.net [150.101.19.170])j0A2al1B004210 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:06:49 +1030 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:06:57 +1030 From: Shane Ambler To: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1105307890.1371.42.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Updating a running jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:36:53 -0000 Sounds to me like you want to use cvsup. You can search for it in the handbook. Basically cvsup -g -L 2 cvsupfile will update ports/src/docs/cvs and can be run periodically by cron. The cvsupfile you specify has settings as far as what to update and where to put it - you can have a different config for src and ports if you want them in different places. You can config the cvssupfile to download cvs so you can have an up to date cvs tree locally to update from. On 10/1/05 8:28 AM, "Tom McLaughlin" wrote: > Hi, I have a machine which I am running a jail on to be used as a clean > work space for ports work. I got tired of messing up the ports tree and > installed ports on my desktop so I figured a jails would be the best > solution. The jail host is running FreeBSD-stable because I'm waiting > for some changes in FreeBSD-6 to be MFC'ed. What I want to know is what > is the best way to keep my jail up to date with -stable? (Well, > actually keep the jail in sync with the jailhost which runs -stable.) > I've already figured out how to handle the ports within the jail so that > is not a problem, only worried about keeping the base up to date. > > I've thought of a couple of ideas so far. One is to dispose of the old > jail and build a new one. That just won't work for my needs and is a > waste of time from what I see. My jail is setup "the way I like it" so > working in the jail is comfortable, ie. I have a lot of config files > permissions set, and a decent number of packages installed to make life > easier for me when logged in. > > My next idea is to use a script on the jailhost which carries out the > steps for building a jail from the manpage and essentially installing > over the old jail. I just wonder how that will affect /etc within the > jail. I want many of the changes to /etc that occur in -stable but I > don't want to overwrite all the changes I have made. I guess I could > skip `make distribution' and run mergemaster later. > > My last idea is to mount the jailhost's /usr/src and /usr/obj > directories into the jail with nullfs and then after having run > buildworld on the jailhost, run installworld in the jail and then use > mergemaster to take care of /etc within the jail. I've used a similar > process to update OpenBSD machines over NFS but have never tried it on > FreeBSD. > > Can anyone tell me what they do to manage their jails and keep them up > to date? Thanks. > > Tom -- Shane Ambler Sales Department 007Marketing.com Shane@007Marketing.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:40:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE3116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:40:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDCF543D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:40:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 02:40:27 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:40:27 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <41E1195E.8010800@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <41E1195E.8010800@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501091840.27557.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: william gatlin Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:40:28 -0000 On Sunday 09 January 2005 03:45 am, Erik Norgaard wrote: > william gatlin wrote: > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on > > modifying the file, I loaded it and got a lot of error code 1 > > messages that I never did figure out. I changed the partitioning > > and allowed 1/2 a gig for the root directory and loaded it again. > > > > All seemed to go well untill I tryed to configure the X.org > > windowing system. Nothing in /stand/sysinstall would do any > > configuration of X. Went to the net and got instructions. Finally > > got X to work and found vidtune. > > > > Kdm comes up with a log in screen which just leads to another log > > in screen. ctrl-alt-backspace won't turn x off as it keeps comming > > back on it's own. Nothing leads to a window manager other than the > > little one that comes with X. > > I sounds like you have started X by setting xdm on in /etc/ttys, I > would recommend you not to do that first time you start up X but > rather use startx. To get the console, press crtl-alt-F1, X is > normally on F9. > > To understand a bit about how X works: When X starts your session, it > will look for the file .xinitrc in your home directory and execute > the programs listed, if you have no .xinitrc the default system file > is used: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc > > Usually only your windows manager is listed. Once the last program in > .xinitrc exists, X terminates your session. If you started X by > setting xdm on in /etc/ttys, X gives you a new login promt, otherwise > you will return to the console. > > So, it may not be X, but your window manager that is screwed, maybe > you have a core-dump file in your home directory - that would > indicate it. > > If you use startx instead and X crashes for whatever reason, you > should have some error output on the console you can post here on the > list. > > To see if it's your window manager, try a different one, I like > fluxbox because it's lightweight. gnome/kde are quite heavy. > > Just try this before you give up on FreeBSD. Here's my .xinitrc: % cat .xinitrc #exec startkde #exec fvwm #exec fvwm2 #exec gnome-session exec startxfce4 #exec icewm-session #exec openbox #exec fluxbox #exec enlightenment #exec wmaker #exec pwm #exec windowlab #exec evilwm Most of those aren't on my machine, but I've kept the startup commands there from earlier experimentation so I could easily start one if need be. I use xfce4 most of the time, but all you have to do is uncomment the line that references whatever wm or desktop you're using and comment the one you're not using, by putting a "#" in front of it, which means it won't be read. The list isn't not comprehensive, but for your purposes, you can also do this (not as root): % cd ~ (just to make sure you're in your home dir) % echo "exec startkde" > .xinitrc % chmod 755 .xinitrc % startx This assumes you have KDE installed, which from your earlier comments I'm guessing you do (if not, then that's another matter, but not hard to solve, though you can install whatever you want). You can change this by installing another desktop or wm and editing your .xinitrc - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:44:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B2016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:44:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.golden.net (smtp.golden.net [199.166.210.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0B443D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:44:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gldisater@gto.net) Received: from 186-230.speede.golden.net ([216.75.186.230]) by smtp.golden.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1CnpXl-000CGL-7r; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:44:33 -0500 Message-ID: <41E1ECF9.2090402@gto.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:48:25 -0500 From: Jeremy Faulkner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay O'Brien References: <41E1E95C.5040803@att.net> In-Reply-To: <41E1E95C.5040803@att.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD - questions Subject: Re: ssh file transfers - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gldisater@gto.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:44:34 -0000 Jay O'Brien wrote: > I'm using ssh to connect from my local FreeBSD machine to a > distant FreeBSD machine. I want to copy a file structure, i.e., > a directory and its subdirectories, from the distant machine > to my local machine. > > I can do this fine using WS_FTP Pro in Windows, using another > local Windows machine, and then use WS_FTP Pro to copy the files > to the FreeBSD local machine from the Windows computer. It seems > like I should be able to perform the same copy process directly, > from one FreeBSD machine to the other, using ssh. > > I can connect to the distant machine just fine using ssh. > > For purposes of discussion, I'm logged into the distant machine > as jay@distantmachine.net. I'm logged in to the directory /www/jay > and my localmachine directory (now empty) is /home/www/jay. I want > everything in the www/jay directory on distantmachine to be copied > as the home/www/jay directory on localmachine. > scp -r jay@distantmachine.net:/home/www/jay /home/www/jay -- Jeremy Faulkner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:45:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE4716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:45:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (cs.earlham.edu [159.28.230.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC61C43D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:45:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (CPE-67-48-232-40.new.rr.com [67.48.232.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0A2jP60083613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:45:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Message-ID: <41E1EC4A.8020205@cs.earlham.edu> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:45:30 -0600 From: Skylar Thompson Organization: Earlham College Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Justin L. Boss" References: <200501081210.00410.justin@alt-network.com> In-Reply-To: <200501081210.00410.justin@alt-network.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6A6D6FB3BE090FBC2A701821" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on quark.cs.earlham.edu X-Earlham-CS-Dept-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Earlham-CS-Dept-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: skylar@cs.earlham.edu cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: poptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: skylar@cs.earlham.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:45:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6A6D6FB3BE090FBC2A701821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Justin L. Boss wrote: >Has anyone had any success with poptop. I'm able to get a windows client to >connect but can not see the privet network at all. Here are my config file > > Do you have the sysctl variable net.inet.ip.forwarding set to 1? -- -- Skylar Thompson (skylar@cs.earlham.edu) -- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/ --------------enig6A6D6FB3BE090FBC2A701821 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB4exKsc4yyULgN4YRAnwrAJ9AnCy7YEGJ8cgzh87oKhGHv6XthwCbBoaV BQlJgKVef2zxRzBUrjW8K4Q= =ec8V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6A6D6FB3BE090FBC2A701821-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 02:55:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB2E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:55:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.server.rpi.edu (smtp4.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC9643D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:55:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp4.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0A2swUH017630; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:54:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <41E1E4C0.1060503@makeworld.com> References: <41E1E4C0.1060503@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:54:57 -0500 To: Chris From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 - long uptimes... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:55:02 -0000 At 8:13 PM -0600 1/9/05, Chris wrote: > >Long uptimes = unsecured+unpatched boxes. >Long uptimes? No thanks. If you had read my earlier message, you would see that I take steps to keep the important components patched, and thus my machine has been as secure as a freshly-built system. Long uptimes are just a nice goal that I try for, so if there was a security issue where I *had* to reboot to fix it, I certainly would do so. My strategy works for me because I have spare machines, and I am constantly paying attention to freebsd changes. The strategy will not work as well for people in different situations than mine. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 03:02:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328F416A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:02:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C806043D54 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:02:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j0A32kCh007177 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:02:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:08:32 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: (from e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at on Sun Jan 9 17:15:40 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1105326512l.48432l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: avr-libc 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:02:52 -0000 On 01/09/05 17:15:40, Florian Hengstberger wrote: > Hi! >=20 > Has anybody an idea where I can fetch: >=20 > avr-libc-2003.09.09.tar.bz2 >=20 > or a package for 5.2.1? > I have installed avrdude, avr-gcc via pkg_add but I'm not successfull > with the libc. >=20 > make install says: >=20 > >> Attempting to fetch from http://people.freebsd.org/~joerg/. > fetch: http://people.freebsd.org/~joerg/avr-libc-2003.09.09.tar.bz2: > Not Found > >> Attempting to fetch from > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. > fetch: > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/avr-libc-2003.09.09.tar= .bz2: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >=20 > Where can I download it? >=20 > Thanks Florian > If there are no pkgs then you have to build(cd /usr/ports/devel/avr-=20 libc && make install clean). That can be good because you can =20 optimize, but bad if you had to build gnome or kde on a p1@75mhz. Most =20 libs I've built are very quick. Someone could build them for you, but =20 it should not be a problem on a modern machine. By the way email the =20 port maintainer, hot off the press: http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/avr-libc/ avr-libc-1.2.0.tar.bz2 01-Jan-2005 16:25 306k=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 03:08:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBD316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:08:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2C843D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:08:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:08:07 -0600 Message-ID: <41E1F1B2.8020802@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:08:34 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: william gatlin References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2005 03:08:10.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D3E8DE0:01C4F6C1] cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:08:40 -0000 william gatlin wrote: >So for now I'm going to try to load Slackware and hope that maybe in a year >BSD will be easier to wade through. I have to admit a bit of sorrow in having >to do this as I wanted them both on the same machine. > > Dual-booting is rather an advanced topic. So are several other things you mentioned in your message (that I have snipped). Did you follow procedures and recommende practices from the Project's handbook, or just G'n'G (Google && Guess?) GnG is rather a 'Linuxy' way to do things; FreeBSD has a very solid handbook that touches most major aspects of system installation and configuration. It's all I used to set up my first FBSD Desktop over a year ago (but I was rather familiar with the installation as I've been using FBSD on servers for almost four years). I do realize that I'm assuming that you didn't read or download the Handbook. As you mention below, I mean no disrespect either. However, I'm inclined to think that a person who follows the Handbook closely will generally be successful in installation and configuration of the operating system. If you found chapters or paragraphs or sentences in the Handbook to be confusing, I'm sure that the FPD (FreeBSD Documentation Project) would desire to know about it --- they are at doc@freebsd.org... > >At the same time I wish to communicate my respect and admiration for >the great job the BSD community is doing and hope in no way to >communicate any disregaurd for everyones efforts. > > I don't suppose you have (communicated disregard, per se). However, those individuals who are sensitive to such matters *may* infer such from your dissatisfaction with the difficulties you've experienced. That's human nature; I doubt that many people who might "flame" you are really upset at you personally, either. In the Project's defense, I must point out that I have found no mail messages to this list asking for any help with these issues during the past two weeks. The individuals who answer questions here could help with the vast majority of these issues quite well, I think; and, it's likely they'll still be here when you do decide to try again... > >Right now I have to have Windows up and running also and am watching >it go into a self destruct mode from somthing that it downloaded from >the net all by it's self with no human operator touching it. There >are so many Popups I had to pull the net cable just to stop it. >They don't get no respect. > > This is the top problem with M$ machines that my company sees on a daily basis. It's called "swiss cheese security" .... If possible, use a firewall, and use alternate browsers and email programs; be sure that you've "Windows Update"d until you're up to date, and obtain both antivirus and spyware detection programs and keep them current as well.... >Thank You--------Bill Gatlin > > You're welcome. I hope you'll be willing to try again soon, and if so, encourage you to follow the documentation carefully. If not, I wish you well with whatever you choose to use to power your computing experience. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 03:12:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3193D16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:12:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B1443D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:12:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:11:44 -0600 Message-ID: <41E1F28C.6030708@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:12:12 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Malcolm Kay References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <20050109132854.GD44181@gothmog.gr> <200501091730.21540.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501101251.14691.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <200501101251.14691.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2005 03:11:45.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D865E10:01C4F6C2] cc: Joshua Tinnin cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:12:15 -0000 Malcolm Kay wrote: >On a MS system you'll probably need to set the file mode to prevent >\n being translated to \r\n. It can be quite frustarating to realise >this only after hours of download :- > >ftp> binary > > >Malcolm > > Just "bin" works. But you'll _absolutely_ want to do that. <*slight* exaggeration>Why M$ assumes the only thing you'll ever want to d/l via ftp is ASCII text is beyond me .... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 03:34:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7ED16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:34:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rooster.chubbo.net (rooster.chubbo.net [168.75.98.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F1B43D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:34:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) Received: from rooster.chubbo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rooster.chubbo.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j0A3YeR5044460; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:34:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by rooster.chubbo.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j0A3YeDA044459; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:34:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) X-Authentication-Warning: rooster.chubbo.net: nobody set sender to freebsd-questions@chubbo.net using -f Received: from c-67-169-93-71.client.comcast.net (c-67-169-93-71.client.comcast.net [67.169.93.71]) by mail.chubbo.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:34:40 -0800 Message-ID: <1105328080.41e1f7d09cdcd@mail.chubbo.net> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:34:40 -0800 From: joseph kacmarcik To: "Jay O'Brien" References: <41E1E95C.5040803@att.net> In-Reply-To: <41E1E95C.5040803@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh file transfers - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:34:48 -0000 > For purposes of discussion, I'm logged into the distant machine > as jay@distantmachine.net. I'm logged in to the directory /www/jay > and my localmachine directory (now empty) is /home/www/jay. I want > everything in the www/jay directory on distantmachine to be copied > as the home/www/jay directory on localmachine. this depends whether you want a backup or if you want to have a live copy, there are a few ways (more on that later). for a backup, you could (test first please): ssh remotehost "tar cf - /www/jay" > /path/to/tarfile or for live copy, two methods would be: ssh remotehost "tar cf - /www/jay" | tar -C /home/www/jay -xf - scp -pr remotehost:/www/jay /home/www/jay > My follow-on question is -- Is there a way to synchronize the local > machine with the distant machine if changes are made on the distant > machine, and vice-versa, on a generic basis, i.e. "distantmachine > is now the master, correct localmachine to agree"? if you're trying to get a working copy and not backup, use rsync. this would be much easier, and it's easy to make it bi-directional (or more). there are many ways to do this, one is: rsync -azvprt -e ssh [user]@remotehost:/www/jay /home/www you could use -n and --progress when you're doing the debugging getting it right for your situation and environment. you'll still be transporting over ssh, but IMO rsync is a better choice. good luck! joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 03:35:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73B016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:35:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtaout-w.tc.umn.edu (mtaout-w.tc.umn.edu [160.94.160.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD4443D5D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:35:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duns0014@umn.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (ip68-104-63-160.lv.lv.cox.net [68.104.63.160]) by mtaout-w.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:35:04 -0600 (CST) X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] ip68-104-63-160.lv.lv.cox.net [68.104.63.160] #+TS+AU+HN From: Joe Dunsmore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:32:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501090732.50116.duns0014@umn.edu> Subject: Re: Installation of 5.3 over network fails on boot up. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:35:05 -0000 > On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:27:51AM +0100, Arne Eng=F8 wrote: > >/> I have been using FreeBSD earlier, but am new to the 5.0-Release. />/> The boot.flp image seems to be twice the size of an ordinary floppy,=20 while the other four images in the floppies-directory fits on exactly one=20 disk each. What are the BOOT.FLP disk for ? How is it to be used, and how d= o=20 I use it on a 1.44 - floppy disk drive system ??? I would appreciate a spee= dy=20 reply, as I'm trying to set up a new system with Freebsd 5.0-release. /> > You don't use boot.flp with a 1.44Mb floppy drive. =A0You can use > boot.flp with a 2.88Mb floppy drive, but relatively few people have > one of those. =A0You can also use it to build certain styles of bootable > CD Rom -- although I think even that use is verging on the obsolete > nowadays. boot.flp is the same size as the kernX.flp files, and the installation manu= al=20 said all three files are needed. This is in sections 1.3 and 1.4 of=20 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/installation-i386.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 03:35:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FB116A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:35:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347BA43D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:35:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050110033549112008lc62e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:35:49 +0000 Message-ID: <41E1F815.9090302@att.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:35:49 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions References: <41E1E95C.5040803@att.net> <41E1ECF9.2090402@gto.net> In-Reply-To: <41E1ECF9.2090402@gto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssh file transfers - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:35:51 -0000 Jeremy Faulkner wrote: > Jay O'Brien wrote: > >>I'm using ssh to connect from my local FreeBSD machine to a >>distant FreeBSD machine. I want to copy a file structure, i.e., >>a directory and its subdirectories, from the distant machine >>to my local machine. >> >>I can do this fine using WS_FTP Pro in Windows, using another >>local Windows machine, and then use WS_FTP Pro to copy the files >>to the FreeBSD local machine from the Windows computer. It seems >>like I should be able to perform the same copy process directly, >>from one FreeBSD machine to the other, using ssh. >> >>I can connect to the distant machine just fine using ssh. >> >>For purposes of discussion, I'm logged into the distant machine >>as jay@distantmachine.net. I'm logged in to the directory /www/jay >>and my localmachine directory (now empty) is /home/www/jay. I want >>everything in the www/jay directory on distantmachine to be copied >>as the home/www/jay directory on localmachine. >> > > > scp -r jay@distantmachine.net:/home/www/jay /home/www/jay > Jeremy, That works like a champ. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! Wow. There's so much to learn. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 03:54:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FC816A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:54:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natco8.natcotech.com (natco8.natcotech.com [205.167.142.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBB943D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:54:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smartweb@leadhill.net) Received: from localhost (int9.natcotech.com [192.168.1.9]) by natco8.natcotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854602985AA for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:54:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from natco8.natcotech.com ([192.168.1.8]) by localhost (natco9 [192.168.1.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10179-01-8 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:54:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (lhr5-dial-12-28-24-42.natcotech.com [12.28.24.42]) by natco8.natcotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F03298672 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:54:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E1FC8D.2050908@leadhill.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:54:53 -0600 From: Billy Newsom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E03E5E.9020001@leadhill.net> <6610107427.20050108232912@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <6610107427.20050108232912@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at natco9.natcotech.com Subject: Re: Reboot fails: 5 beeps and a freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:54:56 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Billy Newsom writes: > > BN> ...and that's all I ever see. But while this is being printed to the > BN> screen, I get five beeps. I don't remember that many beeps in FreeBSD 4.x. > BN> > BN> BEEP, beep beep beep, BEEP > > See http://bioscentral.com for a list of beep codes for many different > BIOS. Most BIOS seem to use BEEP beep beep beep for video or memory > errors, but check and see. I'm don't think that this is a BIOS issue. The beeps may be from FreeBSD, I believe. Can anyone tell me if one of the routines in the kernel beeps during a reboot? If it is the BIOS, that beep code means that the first 64K of memory is bad, but obviously this would seem like a strange beep code during a reboot. The way I understand beep codes is that they should happen during a POST. But looking at my console, I still see the stuff that you cropped out of my original post on my screen, namely, the cpu_reset: Stopping other CPUs In other words, it appears that the beeps are coming from the FreeBSD 5.3 kernel, and not the BIOS. But since perhaps the cpu_reset may be somewhat successful you may be right... The beeps could be BIOS beeps. I know, however, that this computer always did its reboots properly when I ran FreeBSD 4.7. So meanwhile, I have been looking at the changes to this file: http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/diff/i386/i386/vm_machdep.c?v=RELENG4;diffvar=v;diffval=RELENG5 The above link shows a diff between FreeBSD 4-Stable and 5-Stable. The differences are numerous, and some are in the middle of the cpu_reset function which could be the problem. I may try seeing if a freebsd-hacker might have some input. I almost began this post in the hackers list, but I tried here first, as is my duty. But I don't see any reason for the beeps looking into the FreeBSD kernel, either, so I may be barking up the wrong tree. > BN> I don't know how long I've waited for the system to reboot, but so far > BN> it hasn't. > > If the BIOS is unhappy, it's not going to reboot. > That's true. But I wonder why it's not? My memory has never failed a test during a POST, so failing on the reboot seems very odd. On another twist, I happen to be buying a complete new set of memory for this machine to max it out. I wonder if that will fix it?! Billy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 03:57:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B40E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:57:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41008.mail.yahoo.com (web41008.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0344F43D49 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:57:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27066 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2005 03:57:19 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ZZtNChFxeU87Tk4lsbhEnuSCWHCtAFMDXoiLT5qlNGhoBmbkSIMJO0vaA0V4VbedBWPFnA5Yorq9kyi3qdP9iCz3JIIc0BcgBKvdin79IGt1lJFTTL8+cAEFc2p1ZCXvdD/fKFen9wzHTsF8BZnw8xG5GPWd87nJS9eignU7iIU= ; Message-ID: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.164.186.108] by web41008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:57:17 PST Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:57:17 -0800 (PST) From: Joe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FreeBSD 5.2 RELENG source fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:57:20 -0000 Hello, I am running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and tried to cvsup the source code for 5.3. First I am able to build 5.2.1 source code with no problems using make buildworld. When I cvsup 5.3 using the cvsup file below, it fails to build. *default host=cvsup6.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix *default tag=RELENG_5_3 *default compress # this is all that is needed for the base system src-all ports-all tag=. The first error that I get is about getopt.h missing from contrib in several directories. I copy getopt.h from /usr/include, then I get a message about bconfig.h missing from the contrib source code as well. Is there something else I need to get for 5.3 source that is not needed in 5.2? Or is this a bug that should be / has been filed? Thanks in advance, Joe __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:01:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE30016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:01:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C80043D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:01:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5A12D1C001D3 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:01:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 430CC1C001AF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:01:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:01:20 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <373835327.20050110050120@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050109234021.GB75804@gothmog.gr> References: <14545951.20050110000835@wanadoo.fr> <20050109234021.GB75804@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Copying directory trees only for new files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:01:22 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: GK> cpio(1) does that by default ... Looks like that's just what I need--thanks. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:04:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976B416A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:04:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339E543D49 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 625BE1FFFCFD for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:04:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4BBB01FFFD59 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:04:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:04:30 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <59255100.20050110050430@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19861fba0501091636126ff34f@mail.gmail.com> References: <14545951.20050110000835@wanadoo.fr> <19861fba0501091636126ff34f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Copying directory trees only for new files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:04:32 -0000 J65nko BSD writes: JB> Have a look at "rsync" http://rsync.samba.org/ It is in ports ;) I did look at it, but cpio seems to do what's required and it's already on the system. Thanks anyway. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:09:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD88316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:09:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE1343D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:09:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (mail.domain.com [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D15E21FFFF76 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:09:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA8F61FFFFA7 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:09:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:09:04 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <931761488.20050110050904@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E1E4C0.1060503@makeworld.com> References: <41E1E4C0.1060503@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 - long uptimes... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:09:06 -0000 Chris writes: C> Long uptimes = unsecured+unpatched boxes. C> Long uptimes? No thanks. Most vulnerabilities are in daemons or other programs outside the kernel, so one need not necessarily boot the machine to fix them. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:11:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AED16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:11:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (nlpproxy03.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9019143D46 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:11:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MOR90Z@telnor.net) Received: from prodigy.net.mx (du-148-235-52-33.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.33]) by smtp.prodigy.net.mx (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IA3003VZ2B2VJ@smtp.prodigy.net.mx>; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:11:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from [148.235.52.107] (Forwarded-For: [201.130.165.31]) by nlpmail03.prodigy.net.mx (mshttpd); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:11:47 -0800 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:11:47 -0800 From: MOR90Z To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <1451e1721d.1721d1451e@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.01 (built Aug 26 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Priority: normal Subject: Wish one is the list of Ipfilter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:11:26 -0000 Hi all, i want to know where i send the questions about ipfilter, i only see for IPWD and PF, but nothing about ipfilter? I use Freebsd 4.10 Release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:19:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78C616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:19:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3593943D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:19:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp36-4.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.36.4]) j0A4J93D003831; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:49:09 +1030 (CST) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: Kevin Kinsey Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:49:08 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <200501101251.14691.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <41E1F28C.6030708@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <41E1F28C.6030708@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101449.08471.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> cc: Joshua Tinnin cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:19:31 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:42 pm, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Malcolm Kay wrote: > >On a MS system you'll probably need to set the file mode to prevent > >\n being translated to \r\n. It can be quite frustarating to realise > >this only after hours of download :- > > > >ftp> binary > > > > > >Malcolm > > Just "bin" works. But you'll _absolutely_ want to do > that. > > <*slight* exaggeration>Why M$ assumes the only thing you'll ever want > to d/l via ftp is ASCII text is beyond me .... As I recall ftp way back to the year dot assumes text transfers by default. It is just that this makes no difference for unix and unix like systems. So it needs "bin" on any system that uses other than \n as text record terminator including some that use a simple \r (OS9?). Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:25:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9BA16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:25:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.pspl.co.in (smtp.persistent.co.in [202.54.11.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DC143D39 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:25:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from romil_shah@persistent.co.in) Received: from ps2204 ([10.44.50.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.pspl.co.in (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0A4TARV030982 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:59:10 +0530 From: "Romil Shah" To: "Freebsd" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:56:43 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAQ= X-White-List-Member: TRUE Subject: What is the task of pmap_enter ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:25:07 -0000 Hi, I am working on 2200S RAID controller and using aac driver from RELEGN4 , aac_disk.c in the driver uses pmap_enter for coping the virtual pages to some physical location. In FreeBSD 4.10 pmap_kenter_temporary is used which return the address which is passed to the controller for dumping on kernel panic where as this is not happening with pmap_enter , can any one tell me the difference between pmap_enter and pmap_kenter_temporary (both this file are present in i386/pmap.c. Any suggestions will be of great help. Thanks, Romil Shah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:26:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31DC16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:26:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B4843D5A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:26:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B82D512C9; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:26:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:26:16 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Joe Message-ID: <20050110042616.GA1186@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2 RELENG source fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:26:18 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 07:57:17PM -0800, Joe wrote: > Hello,=20 > I am running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and tried to cvsup the source > code for 5.3.=20 >=20 > First I am able to build 5.2.1 source code with no problems > using make buildworld. > =20 > When I cvsup 5.3 using the cvsup file below, it fails to > build. =20 >=20 > *default host=3Dcvsup6.freebsd.org > *default base=3D/usr > *default prefix=3D/usr > *default release=3Dcvs > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default tag=3DRELENG_5_3 > *default compress > # this is all that is needed for the base system > src-all > ports-all tag=3D. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The first error that I get is about getopt.h missing from > contrib in several directories. I copy getopt.h from > /usr/include, then I get a message about bconfig.h missing from > the contrib source code as well. Show us the exact errors and commands you're using; we can't read minds. > Is there something else I need to get for 5.3 source that is > not needed in 5.2? Or is this a bug that should be / has been > filed? Depend on how you installed and updated your source code (i.e. if you installed from the installation media and then updated to a later version with cvsup without first 'adopting' your source code as described in the cvsup FAQ on www.polstra.com), it's possible you have extra files left behind that should not be there. Kris --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4gPoWry0BWjoQKURAr5eAJ9nYLzhDiUV3wwWHuih1lylh1Kq0ACffOlS yOWUUIlHntnzn/p0BQoYcpQ= =2K4e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:40:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA6716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:40:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901B043D39 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:40:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marella@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-66-8-190-99.hawaii.rr.com [66.8.190.99])j0A4eEkM014987 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:40:15 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Marella To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:43:05 -1000 Message-Id: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: NFS export of evolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:40:18 -0000 Hello I am not sure where this problem should go so I am posting to -questions. I have a SOHO set up with several computers running a mix of FreeBSD 5.3 Release and Stable. I have an NFS server set up so that data can be shared at all of the computers. I would like to have the ability to retrieve mail from any of the computers I happen to be logged into. I have tried various permutations of exporting /home, /home/reg-user, and /home/reg-user/.evolution and I always get the same error when trying to read mail. I am able to mount the directory(ies) on the client computers and am able to call up evolution and see the messages but when I try to read any message I get this error ****************************************************************** Error while Retrieving message 1292 (this number varies of course) Failed to get lock using fcntl(2): Operation not supported. ****************************************************************** I read the man page for fcntl but I didn't get any help out of it. It was way over my head. Here is the important bits from /etc/exports /home/reg-user/.evolution -alldirs notebook.my.local.lan I have also tried -maproot with out any luck. I would think this is possible but I guess I haven't set up the right conditions or options. Can anyone help me out? Thanks Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 04:54:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B5616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:54:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41002.mail.yahoo.com (web41002.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F57F43D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:54:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 10471 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2005 04:54:53 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=I8ZA35zigrcdbgXvqyx/dBLDvKuG1nDVlVelSEh6s9t7ITZbKL1+kS6VRX5iHhYggbVubXWneKvWey6WbG1eMZ5SzPmovX2ZAxSf2ibJ3L9yKxlWagdraGuVFLaskA4GuQ78j+n/GEWahKp/ZvmAdNsvyGm5iPZmTDAb8OQVuzI= ; Message-ID: <20050110045453.10469.qmail@web41002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.164.186.108] by web41002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:54:53 PST Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:54:53 -0800 (PST) From: Joe To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050110042616.GA1186@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2 RELENG source fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:54:54 -0000 How I installed: First I installed FreeBSD 4.6, then using cvsup with a file similar to below, I upgraded the system from 4.6, to 4.7, to 4.8, to 4.9, then to 4.10, all by source code. Never had a problem. Then my drive crashed and so I bought a new one and installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 as that was the latest at the time of the crash. PRISTINE install of 5.2.1 using network install. Then I ran cvsup cvsup cvsup_file The cvsup file was just like the one below, but it said 5_2 instead of 5_3. I was able to build the system with 5.2.1 and uname -a showed patch 11. > make buildworld > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > config MYKERNEL > cd ../compile/MYKERNEL > make && make install > reboot then > make installworld That's pretty much how I got from 5.2.1 install to 5.2.1 p11. Worked perfectly fine. Then changing the cvsup file below to be what is it, I ran > cvsup cvsup_file > cd /usr/src > make clean > make buildworld The first error message was on that /usr/src/contrib/gperf/lib/getopt.h is missing. Then I copied what was in /usr/include to gperf/lib directory and restarted make buildworld . 2 more directories complained about this same file missing so both times I did the same > cp /usr/include/getopt.h to config/ directories. This solved the first problem. The next error message was also in the contrib directory, at this point I dont remember the exact message, but it was complaining that bconfig.h was missing. So I then tried > rm -rf /usr/src/contrib > rm -rf /usr/src/gnu > cvsup cvsup_file I ran into the same problems. I have now reverted back to 5.2.1 and it is building perfectly fine. So going from 5.2.1 p11 to 5.3, was there some step I missed? I've never had to do use the line src-all tag=RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE list=cvs:RELENG_2_2 before, do I need to do this now? Why or how, if I completely deleted the contrib directory would old files get there? Joe --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 07:57:17PM -0800, Joe wrote: > > Hello, > > I am running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and tried to cvsup the source > > code for 5.3. > > > > First I am able to build 5.2.1 source code with no > problems > > using make buildworld. > > > > When I cvsup 5.3 using the cvsup file below, it fails to > > build. > > > > *default host=cvsup6.freebsd.org > > *default base=/usr > > *default prefix=/usr > > *default release=cvs > > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > *default tag=RELENG_5_3 > > *default compress > > # this is all that is needed for the base system > > src-all > > ports-all tag=. > > > > > > > > The first error that I get is about getopt.h missing > from > > contrib in several directories. I copy getopt.h from > > /usr/include, then I get a message about bconfig.h missing > from > > the contrib source code as well. > > Show us the exact errors and commands you're using; we can't > read > minds. > > > Is there something else I need to get for 5.3 source > that is > > not needed in 5.2? Or is this a bug that should be / has > been > > filed? > > Depend on how you installed and updated your source code (i.e. > if you > installed from the installation media and then updated to a > later > version with cvsup without first 'adopting' your source code > as > described in the cvsup FAQ on www.polstra.com), it's possible > you have > extra files left behind that should not be there. > > Kris > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 05:01:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D1916A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8B043D39 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:01:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7963A51300; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:01:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:01:00 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Joe Message-ID: <20050110050100.GA1969@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050110042616.GA1186@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050110045453.10469.qmail@web41002.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050110045453.10469.qmail@web41002.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2 RELENG source fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:01:03 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:54:53PM -0800, Joe wrote: > Then my drive crashed and so I bought a new one and > installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 as that was the latest at the time of > the crash.=20 >=20 > PRISTINE install of 5.2.1 using network install. >=20 > Then I ran cvsup >=20 > cvsup cvsup_file >=20 > The cvsup file was just like the one below, but it said 5_2 > instead of 5_3. I was able to build the system with 5.2.1 and > uname -a showed patch 11. >=20 > > make buildworld > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf=20 > > config MYKERNEL=20 > > cd ../compile/MYKERNEL=20 > > make && make install > > reboot > =20 > then=20 > > make installworld =20 >=20 > That's pretty much how I got from 5.2.1 install to 5.2.1 > p11. Worked perfectly fine. =20 >=20 >=20 > Then changing the cvsup file below to be what is it, I ran=20 >=20 > > cvsup cvsup_file > > cd /usr/src > > make clean > > make buildworld=20 >=20 > The first error message was on that=20 >=20 > /usr/src/contrib/gperf/lib/getopt.h is missing. That file is not supposed to be there, so something else is wrong. Post the *exact* output of 'make buildworld' showing context of the error. Kris --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4gwMWry0BWjoQKURAp3QAJwPnx/aDW9VmfAIk+zcVPOoOmK1uwCgpWaK NMxpnQG28zyp7OMa25cOhW4= =tJ2q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 05:04:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0257E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:04:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E648843D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:04:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from frambozen (frambozen [192.168.1.9]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA94063; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:04:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:04:59 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Joe In-Reply-To: <20050110045453.10469.qmail@web41002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050109235826.C45666@frambozen.monochrome.org> References: <20050110045453.10469.qmail@web41002.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2 RELENG source fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:04:58 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Joe wrote: > I've never had to do use the line > > src-all tag=RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE list=cvs:RELENG_2_2 > > before, do I need to do this now? I don't think you want that. RELENG_2_2_5 indicates FreeBSD version 2.2.5, which dates from about 1996 or so. And with that _RELEASE business, you're saying you want FreeBSD 2.2.5 as it was shipped on CD, i.e. patchlevel 0. No, it's highly unlikely you want this. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 05:10:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5177516A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:10:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41003.mail.yahoo.com (web41003.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A63643D39 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:10:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 6902 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2005 05:10:41 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=M2bffsYqqiv7bV2IIdWuaVyYuIoqogTxtrOCez9SmcYo43qbrXJCqs5mj3O2smQTNKiNPSZRGWITeMH0UiavGAx/OlLfxwH3/x3xL7EZaHJBZiQiBBpZ3vrp1ZIhriikh1iOC4CoF6vpol925BHTRnErhAXt1zbfvd/jJu/XAcE= ; Message-ID: <20050110051041.6900.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.164.186.108] by web41003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:10:40 PST Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:10:40 -0800 (PST) From: Joe To: Chris Hill In-Reply-To: <20050109235826.C45666@frambozen.monochrome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2 RELENG source fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:10:41 -0000 Thanks, It was an example from the cvsup faq. I know I don't want 2.x. I figured I'd replace 5_2 and 5_3 in that line. J --- Chris Hill wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Joe wrote: > > > I've never had to do use the line > > > > src-all tag=RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE list=cvs:RELENG_2_2 > > > > before, do I need to do this now? > > I don't think you want that. RELENG_2_2_5 indicates FreeBSD > version > 2.2.5, which dates from about 1996 or so. And with that > _RELEASE > business, you're saying you want FreeBSD 2.2.5 as it was > shipped on CD, > i.e. patchlevel 0. No, it's highly unlikely you want this. > > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 05:18:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9C416A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:18:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41010.mail.yahoo.com (web41010.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF4B843D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:18:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56244 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2005 05:18:01 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=nUKv30j2d+hvgS5KkK+csmV5ua6oEnCJLjPQLsERIOYQffXzD/b2uTLMX5BfZzS2VEdf0eRRFl2e4BjRTvO4WSL2V7DgNT3VsB9Krq9ZlXjds8vAlRa83/HEUqNosWh6cmgEYHUIJw+ZQvHoCNzztpSEjLltKw6v2W5u1soyabY= ; Message-ID: <20050110051801.56242.qmail@web41010.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.164.186.108] by web41010.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:18:01 PST Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:18:01 -0800 (PST) From: Joe To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050110050100.GA1969@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2 RELENG source fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:18:02 -0000 Hmm, at this point in time I am rebuilding 5.2.1 RELENG, which is going to take a while on the old machine I am using. I'll try this again later and reproduce it. Joe --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:54:53PM -0800, Joe wrote: > > > Then my drive crashed and so I bought a new one and > > installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 as that was the latest at the time > of > > the crash. > > > > PRISTINE install of 5.2.1 using network install. > > > > Then I ran cvsup > > > > cvsup cvsup_file > > > > The cvsup file was just like the one below, but it said > 5_2 > > instead of 5_3. I was able to build the system with 5.2.1 > and > > uname -a showed patch 11. > > > > > make buildworld > > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > > > config MYKERNEL > > > cd ../compile/MYKERNEL > > > make && make install > > > reboot > > > > then > > > make installworld > > > > That's pretty much how I got from 5.2.1 install to 5.2.1 > > p11. Worked perfectly fine. > > > > > > Then changing the cvsup file below to be what is it, I > ran > > > > > cvsup cvsup_file > > > cd /usr/src > > > make clean > > > make buildworld > > > > The first error message was on that > > > > /usr/src/contrib/gperf/lib/getopt.h is missing. > > That file is not supposed to be there, so something else is > wrong. > > Post the *exact* output of 'make buildworld' showing context > of the > error. > > Kris > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 05:23:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0853216A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:23:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A679E43D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:23:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0A5Mnj54285; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:22:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:22:48 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <41E16C3A.6040300@taborandtashell.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: Peter Risdon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Webmail Frontend to mailboxes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:23:01 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tabor Kelly > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:39 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Colin J. Raven; Peter Risdon; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Webmail Frontend to mailboxes. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > >Pointless for us, as CAcert's root certificate isn't included in I.E., so > >the > >end users have to go through the same honky-tonk to include it in their > >browsers as if you just make your own certs. > > > > > Not quite. If they include the CA-Cert root certificate, they only have > to do that once for all of your CA-Cert signed certificates. > Good point. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 05:49:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E3D16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:49:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1033943D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:49:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 4100114BF80; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:49:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B822914BDFE; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:49:50 +0100 (CET) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0A5notv027752; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:49:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:49:50 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20050110054950.GB8531@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , Ted Mittelstaedt , tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net, "Colin J. Raven" , Peter Risdon , FreeBSD Questions References: <41E16C3A.6040300@taborandtashell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pastinakel.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: CollegeOfNewCaledonia: pastinakel.tue.nl 1189; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net cc: Peter Risdon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: CA-cert X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:49:56 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Offtopic, but... On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 09:22:48PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > Pointless for us, as CAcert's root certificate isn't included in > > > I.E., so the end users have to go through the same honky-tonk to > > > include it in their browsers as if you just make your own certs. > > > > Not quite. If they include the CA-Cert root certificate, they only have > > to do that once for all of your CA-Cert signed certificates. >=20 > Good point. Not only that, but the more people using CA-Cert, the easier it will become to convince browsers to include the CA-Cert root certificate by default. --Stijn --=20 Tact, n.: The unsaid part of what you're thinking. --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4hd+Y3r/tLQmfWcRAiYJAKCqfT72/tEbnyKGzm6BdpHG7Gpt+gCgjpn0 qFAGVv5gjuQ/FVCpTmkvW4o= =tWd3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 06:05:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCBB16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:05:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail47.e.nsc.no (mail47.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E5543D54 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from solskogen@carebears.mine.nu) Received: from carebears.mine.nu (062249172002.customer.alfanett.no [62.249.172.2]) by mail47.nsc.no (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0A65HZf015584; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:05:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.carebears.net [127.0.0.1]) by carebears.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9AD27E452; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:04:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from carebears.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 03908-08; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:04:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (funshine.carebears.net [192.168.0.9]) by carebears.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B7527E426; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:04:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E21B1A.7040404@carebears.mine.nu> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:05:14 +0100 From: Christer Solskogen Organization: Carebears / .jdub / Solskogen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050108) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Parv References: <20050106142257.GA30323@math.jussieu.fr> <41DD8242.8090207@scii.nl> <20050109194634.GA275@holestein.holy.cow> <20050109220353.GB275@holestein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20050109220353.GB275@holestein.holy.cow> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030700070207020907050906" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis at tenderheart.carebears.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Create tgz packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:05:22 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030700070207020907050906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Parv wrote: >> for port in $( find /var/db/pkg -mindepth 1 -type d ) >> do >> echo pkg_create -b $(basename "$port") > > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > Oops, forgot to undo the echo after testing; please remove it when > one is ready to create the packages. > Thanks for your reply. I figured out the 'echo' part myself :) -- cso http://carebears.mine.nu --------------030700070207020907050906-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 06:20:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958B716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:20:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C5B43D58 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:20:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from artware@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a36so258457rnf for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=eHyWflIonDUFHDtzENOYe/tYfd01azHroYMAwYqBYrEowbkVFO4WACW3E+1wTEm3uR8tyHM7Oq9Taqt9/N01WkC4wEqbcgUq2BfGeT+LTBa9JR7qjBLKl2PGEYM4bapagDh3+NI2fSKpoH2/PJQPxbl2WhVcItIxIxjnnuLIKiA= Received: by 10.38.181.76 with SMTP id d76mr526998rnf; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.65.13 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:20:11 -0600 From: artware To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: artware List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:20:12 -0000 Hello again, My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or do I have to hack something together for each daemon? - ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 06:37:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BC616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:37:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C3A43D55 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:37:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050110063742112008kqp3e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:37:42 +0000 Message-ID: <41E222B5.5060002@att.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:37:41 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions References: <41E1E95C.5040803@att.net> <1105328080.41e1f7d09cdcd@mail.chubbo.net> In-Reply-To: <1105328080.41e1f7d09cdcd@mail.chubbo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssh file transfers - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:37:45 -0000 joseph kacmarcik wrote: >>For purposes of discussion, I'm logged into the distant machine >>as jay@distantmachine.net. I'm logged in to the directory /www/jay >>and my localmachine directory (now empty) is /home/www/jay. I want >>everything in the www/jay directory on distantmachine to be copied >>as the home/www/jay directory on localmachine. > > > this depends whether you want a backup or if you want to have a live copy, there > are a few ways (more on that later). > > for a backup, you could (test first please): > ssh remotehost "tar cf - /www/jay" > /path/to/tarfile Thanks, this will come later - It's now on my to do list. > or for live copy, two methods would be: > ssh remotehost "tar cf - /www/jay" | tar -C /home/www/jay -xf - > scp -pr remotehost:/www/jay /home/www/jay > > Interesting, I ran it with only the -r argument and saw the file date/times were current; I read the MAN page and found the -p argument, and found it worked as promised. Thanks for confirming! >>My follow-on question is -- Is there a way to synchronize the local >>machine with the distant machine if changes are made on the distant >>machine, and vice-versa, on a generic basis, i.e. "distantmachine >>is now the master, correct localmachine to agree"? > > > if you're trying to get a working copy and not backup, use rsync. this would be > much easier, and it's easy to make it bi-directional (or more). > > there are many ways to do this, one is: > rsync -azvprt -e ssh [user]@remotehost:/www/jay /home/www > The rsync program sounds like what I will need once I get things working. I'm building a duplicate of my web site, here on my local computer, and ultimately it will be a working copy at a slightly different URL. > you could use -n and --progress when you're doing the debugging getting it right > for your situation and environment. > > you'll still be transporting over ssh, but IMO rsync is a better choice. > > good luck! > joe Joe, thanks. I can't go wrong with the support team here on questions. This is fun! Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 07:22:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9A316A4CE; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:22:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732C743D4C; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:22:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0A7M6CF074198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:22:06 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0A7M6Ud074195; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:22:06 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:22:06 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501100722.j0A7M6Ud074195@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: HP Netserver 60 will not boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:22:09 -0000 Hi, I installed 4.10 RELEASE on an IDE disk on a HP Netserver 60. This isa fresh/default install. Installing was no problem, but whe I try to boot, the machine freeze after the line: .... pcic0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0-0xfffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 At that point, nothing answer anymore, I have to turn the power off. Any idea what isthe problem/how to get over it? TIA Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 07:39:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D09116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:39:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2585E43D55 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:39:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listmail@Bomgardner.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (morningstar [192.168.0.2]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8570021D85B; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:39:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E23131.5000502@Bomgardner.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:39:29 -0600 From: Gene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: artware References: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:39:49 -0000 I have the same problem - numerous attempts to crack accounts like "admin", Guest", "test", and so on. If it continually comes from the same IP, blocking that IP at the firewall should do the trick. However, if the attempts come from varying IPs and you intend to allow logins from the Internet, then you'd need to block out an unwieldy number of IP addresses. The best bet in this case is to make sure your system is as secure as possible. Disable telnet and allow only ssh logins. Make sure you use strong passwords, or better, try one time passwords. (See the handbook.) I use ssh, no telnet from outside the lan, with ssh restricted to allow only certain users/groups to login, and all those groups use opie for one time passwords. In addition, the firewall (I use IPF) is pretty tight, only allowing through the services I want available outside the lan. I do seem to recall a scheme that detects such things as port scans and automagically adds a rule to the firewall to block the offending IP address, but I doubt that would help in your case. One other thing I have done: Since a great many of the attempts come from IPs that resolve to the "pl" top level domain, I've just blocked any ip address that resolves to that domain altogether. I don't really expect any interest in my web site to come from Poland, so the action is feasible for me. I'm certain that others on the list will come up with better methods, but I just wanted to toss in my 2 cents worth. Gene artware wrote: >Hello again, > >My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already >had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in >the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login >names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them >hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from >these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or >do I have to hack something together for each daemon? > >- ben >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 08:13:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B7E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:13:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail7.centrum.cz (mail7.centrum.cz [213.29.7.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0937343D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:13:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@centrum.cz) Received: by mail7.centrum.cz id S2556333AbVAJINh (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:13:37 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:13:37 +0100 From: "Jacek" To: X-Mailer: Centrum Mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: Subject: Upgrade na 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:13:42 -0000 Hezky den, stahl jsem zdrojaky pomoci cvsup: *default host=cvsup.cz.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all a dle clanku http://www.root.cz/clanek/2319 provedl upgrade z 5.1-pre10. Vse probehlo bez problemu, nastaveni kernelu jsem pouzil skoro stejne, jako stavajici, pouzil jsem mergemaster a make installworld jsem provedl v single user modu v /bin/sh Po rebootu se objevil kernel panic. ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ata1: [MPSAFE] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 instruction pointer = 0x58:0x2d6c stack pointer = 0x10:0xf80 frame pointer = 0x10:0x0 code segment = base 0xc00f0000, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault cpuid = 0; Uptime: 1s Nenasel jsem na netu nikde reseni problemu, na teto adrese (jako skoro jedine) jsem nasel popis stejneho problemu (odtud jsem zkopiroval ten kernel panic, na mem stroji je uplne stejny) http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-i386/2004-June/001132.html Pokusil jsem se loadnout stare jadro z /boot/kern.old/kernel, tvari se to, ze naloaduje to stare, ale hlasi kernel panic na tom samem miste. Konfigurace stejna, jako ve zminenem prispevku, jen o 1GB mene RAMky a pouze 2.4GHz P4. Prosim o radu... Jacek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 08:23:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A300F16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:23:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail7.centrum.cz (mail7.centrum.cz [213.29.7.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2335743D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:23:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@centrum.cz) Received: by mail7.centrum.cz id S2556333AbVAJIXK (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:23:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:23:10 +0100 From: "Jacek" To: X-Mailer: Centrum Mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: Subject: Upgrade to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:23:13 -0000 Hi all, sorry for my post in czech language before.... I got sources with cvsup: *default host=cvsup.cz.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all and make upgrade from 5.1-pre10. None problem appeared, I used almost same configuration for kernel, as for old 5.1 version, I used mergemaster and make installworld in single user mode in /bin/sh After reboot appeared this kernel panic. ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ata1: [MPSAFE] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 instruction pointer = 0x58:0x2d6c stack pointer = 0x10:0xf80 frame pointer = 0x10:0x0 code segment = base 0xc00f0000, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault cpuid = 0; Uptime: 1s I found only one message, which describes same panic, as mine: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-i386/2004-June/001132.html I tried to load old kernel from /boot/kern.old/kernel, but same kernel panic appeared too. HW configuration is same, as in message above, only have 1GB RAM and P4 2.4GHz. Thanks for any advice... Jacek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 08:33:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B42216A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:33:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.68.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00DE43D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:33:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id j0A8XWJS005437; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:33:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:33:32 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200501100833.j0A8XWSd005436@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: dkelly@HiWAAY.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:33:36 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:01:26 -0600 David Kelly wrote: >On Jan 9, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould >> >> wrote: >> >>> Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the >> >> Mac OSX was--and unless something has changed drastically in the >> last >> few weeks, still is--based upon NextStep, another proprietary UNIX >> that was >> based upon a Mach 2.4-2.5 kernel and 4.3BSD above that. > >Thats a Linux fallacy, that the kernel makes the OS. Apple's collection Fine. So what? I didn't make that claim. The 4.3BSD team implicitly did, though. (See the kernel's program logic manual, _The_Design_and _Implementation_of_the_4.3BSD_UNIX_Operating_System_.) >of command line utilities we commonly think of as the Unix interface >come from FreeBSD. As for what I've seen of the Darwin kernel, in grand That may be true. I don't really know because I haven't looked at Darwin source. However, essentially everything in NextStep above the kernel that was not part of the OOPS was taken directly from 4.3BSD. Perhaps Apple has since replaced all that software with the FreeBSD version. But even so, much of FreeBSD came directly from 4.[34]BSD anyway. I've glanced at a few of the header files in Mac OSX libraries, and they are still chock full of labels beginning with "NS" or "NX". :-) >BSD tradition Apple freely picked from here and there, whatever they >thought best, and made what can only be said to be their own. Keep in mind that Mach 2.x *was* a heavily modified 4.3BSD kernel. Mach 3.x and later is not. > >>> applications you need. I talked my 11 year old nephew through an >>> operating system upgrade (clean installation) of his ibook over the >>> phone -- including wireless networking with WEP. >>> >> Unfortunately, Apple has not released a version for Intel >> processors, >> so it won't help someone with a pee cee instead of a Mac. > >Wrong, its called Darwin. If you think FreeBSD is raw then go play with >Darwin for a bit. Darwin is used for both i386 and PowerPC. MacOS X is >Darwin plus the fantastic Apple GUI and other neat Apple stuff. > I see. So is it just the GUI that's missing in Darwin? Or is the entire OOPS missing? I guess it's nice to know that the underlying system is available for the pee cee architecture, but it couldn't be nearly as fun without the OOPS. :-) Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 08:41:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496C316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:41:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E511C43D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:41:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id j0A8er7H005512; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:40:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:40:53 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200501100840.j0A8erRt005511@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rjhjr@cox.net Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:41:44 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:20:29 -0500 Bob Hall wrote: >On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 06:17:36PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: >> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould >> wrote: >> >> >Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the >> >> Mac OSX was--and unless something has changed drastically in the last >> few weeks, still is--based upon NextStep, another proprietary UNIX that was >> based upon a Mach 2.4-2.5 kernel and 4.3BSD above that. > >>From http://developer.apple.com/unix/: > Specifically, it is based in part on BSD 4.4 Lite. On a system > level, many of the design decisions are made to align with > BSD-style UNIX systems. Most libraries and utilities are from > FreeBSD (http://www.freebsd.org/), but some are derived from > NetBSD (http://www.netbsd.org/). For future development, Mac OS X > has adopted FreeBSD as a reference code base for BSD technology. > Work is ongoing to more closely synchronize all BSD tools and > libraries with the FreeBSD-stable branch.. > >Your statements applied to the original OSX. It has shifted to 4.4BSD, It's difficult to imagine the 4.4BSD kernel having been used in Mac OSX. But the remaining parts of the system make sense. >Mach 3, and FBSD during the course of development, with lots of The Mach 3 kernel could be used, though there would have to be a mountain of stuff written into the servers to provide all the stuff that the rest of the system depended upon in the earlier Mach 2.x-based kernel. However, if that's what Apple has done, then that's great! >contributions from Net and OpenBSD. The changes didn't happen in the >last few weeks. They happened continuously during the system's >development. Thanks for the information. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 09:01:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F3016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:01:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0597E43D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost.daemonsecurity.com [127.0.0.1]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794E9FD01F; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:01:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E24463.3080207@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:01:23 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Marella References: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> In-Reply-To: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS export of evolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:01:34 -0000 Robert Marella wrote: > Hello > > I am not sure where this problem should go so I am posting to > -questions. > > I have a SOHO set up with several computers running a mix of FreeBSD 5.3 > Release and Stable. I have an NFS server set up so that data can be > shared at all of the computers. > > I would like to have the ability to retrieve mail from any of the > computers I happen to be logged into. I have tried various permutations > of exporting /home, /home/reg-user, and /home/reg-user/.evolution and I > always get the same error when trying to read mail. > > I am able to mount the directory(ies) on the client computers and am > able to call up evolution and see the messages but when I try to read > any message I get this error > > ****************************************************************** > Error while Retrieving message 1292 (this number varies of course) > > Failed to get lock using fcntl(2): Operation not supported. > ****************************************************************** > > I read the man page for fcntl but I didn't get any help out of it. It > was way over my head. > > Here is the important bits from /etc/exports > > /home/reg-user/.evolution -alldirs notebook.my.local.lan > > I have also tried -maproot with out any luck. I would think this is > possible but I guess I haven't set up the right conditions or options. > Can anyone help me out? The error appears to be with filelocking not mounting. Filelocking is a problem on NFS as many independent systems might try to get write access to the same file at the same time. Do you have: rpc_lockd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for client/server. rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for client/server. in your rc.conf? Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 09:17:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB5C16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:17:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC36743D46 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:17:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so875063rne for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:17:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J/Y9dN3mVsgL+stm6qBLML6jY2h1UNKUqBchq6Kod+KAOIupSKbpCo0NZTZu7/j7a9q/QxoWa1gsN01IxiT/Qh2v0Se0B47yRkbXAAo50yqc2G94t7VIgLgojVWIKZ4YSb60wIdqoVaUue4AOjzQnUjKNRyH1s4YRkbXAgb7lhc= Received: by 10.38.22.62 with SMTP id 62mr415548rnv; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.21 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:17:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1d3ed48c050110011718aa7ff6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:17:57 +0900 From: Kevin Downey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: WIFI USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kevin Downey List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:17:58 -0000 Are any 802.11whatever USB adapters supported/working? A cursory google search turned up a few people asking similar questions, but positive or negative responses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 09:32:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1DC16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:32:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D1A43D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:32:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j0A9W5Z1009402; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:32:05 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:32:04 +0000 Message-Id: <1105349525.708.313.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Webmail Frontend to mailboxes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:32:16 -0000 On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 22:17 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 09:59 +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > >> On Jan 6 at 21:41, Ted Mittelstaedt launched this into the bitstream: > > > >> > > > >>> Use IMP. > > [...] > > > > > > Now you mention it, I seem to recall a shedload of issues if you had to > > > download the source and build it by hand. There were definite > > gotchas in > > > that process I believe. > > > > > > > > > > How so? It's PHP. There's nothing to build. > > > > There were a number of gotchas that were serious EARLIER ON. > Here's a list of the ones I ran into: OK, I see what you mean. I was strictly correct and a lot of these gotchas have nothing to do with IMP, but that's not much help to someone who actually has to get a working installation of horde/IMP in real life. Surely the easiest way to deal with a horde installation on FreeBSD is to install the ports, so dependencies including the necessary PHP extensions are pulled in for you, php.ini is updated properly as the install goes along, paths in config files are correct, program names are appropriate and so on. then replace scripts and upgrade dependencies where there are security or feature reasons to do so? And that respect, installing IMP is no more difficult or problematic than any other moderately complicated web based application, which is the point I was trying to make. I just tried this and got a working horde without any problems. BTW, it all works fine with courier-imap as well as imap-uw. Peter. > > 1) The versions of IMP and Horde in the ports tree were old and had > security holes thus had to be scratched > > 2) X Windows is a dependency on one of the subsidiary programs so you > have to plan your disk partition strategy. > > 3) IMP's config file used the name wvHtml for the MS Word viewer and > first time I ran across this I spent at least an hour finding out that > this program had been renamed "wv" (wv requires imagemagic which > requires X and a great many other programs) > > 4) IMP looks for user programs (like ispell) in /usr/bin not /usr/local/bin > > 5) many issues with getting Apache mod-SSL running properly with a > self-signed > key (you have to generate it manually with openssl, the apache docs that > say use make key or whatnot don't work) > > 6) There's no list anywhere of what drivers in php IMP needs you have to > guess. > (ie: ldap) > > 7) Using a different imap server than uw-imap might cause trouble with php, > as that port installs the uw-imap client libraries. > > 8) All kinds of dumb-ass file naming issues with default config files from > when php went to php4. (ie: .php3 to .php) > > 9) uw-imap that ports installs was old and had security hole > > 10) php.ini and local.inc in phplib supplied by Horde has wrong pathnames in > it > > 11) php.ini doesen't have extension-imap.so and mysql.so in it > > 12) Not clear that dirs horde-1.2.3 and imp-2.2.3 need to be renamed > horde and imp > > 13) - the instructions place phplib into the document root, and local.inc is > in there, so a command like: > > https://machinename.com/horde/phplib/local.inc > > Will open up the local.inc file in all it¢s glory. You can > you can move phplib from /usr/local/www/htdocs/horde/phplib to > /usr/local/www/phplib and change all the references to point to there. > > > Most of these are due to misinterpretaitons of the install docs, which > exist because the install docs were written by someone who thinks that > concise writing is a good thing with instructions. > > Ted > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 09:39:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6CB16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:39:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A06C43D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:39:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from [192.168.8.50] (ppp19-170.static.internode.on.net [150.101.19.170])j0A9dNAi034555; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:09:24 +1030 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:09:33 +1030 From: Shane Ambler To: FreeBSD Mailing Lists , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200501100833.j0A8XWSd005436@mp.cs.niu.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:39:27 -0000 On 10/1/05 7:03 PM, "Scott Bennett" wrote: > But even so, much of FreeBSD came directly from 4.[34]BSD anyway. I've > glanced at a few of the header files in Mac OSX libraries, and they are > still chock full of labels beginning with "NS" or "NX". :-) > All the NS.. object names are from the OOP and didn't get renamed when apple took over - I guess apple didn't want to give the NeXT developers the extra work in updating their software. This only relates to the cocoa based gui programs. The cli software uses the bsd(based) libs and is mostly taken from FreeBSD now. I have heard that most of the darwin committers are also FreeBSD committers. >> BSD tradition Apple freely picked from here and there, whatever they >> thought best, and made what can only be said to be their own. > > Keep in mind that Mach 2.x *was* a heavily modified 4.3BSD kernel. > Mach 3.x and later is not. You may be interested that according to Apple they are ditching the Mach kernel. From 10.4 - due for release in the next 6 months they are using a kernel based on FreeBSD 5 - with ACL's etc. That's the way I read it anyway - they don't refer to the new kernel as Mach based anymore. See - apple.com/macosx/tiger/unix.html >>>> applications you need. I talked my 11 year old nephew through an >>>> operating system upgrade (clean installation) of his ibook over the >>>> phone -- including wireless networking with WEP. >>>> >>> Unfortunately, Apple has not released a version for Intel >>> processors, >>> so it won't help someone with a pee cee instead of a Mac. >> >> Wrong, its called Darwin. If you think FreeBSD is raw then go play with >> Darwin for a bit. Darwin is used for both i386 and PowerPC. MacOS X is >> Darwin plus the fantastic Apple GUI and other neat Apple stuff. >> > I see. So is it just the GUI that's missing in Darwin? Or is the > entire OOPS missing? I guess it's nice to know that the underlying system > is available for the pee cee architecture, but it couldn't be nearly as fun > without the OOPS. :-) > Yes the OOP you refer to - now called cocoa, previously NeXTStep/Openstep - is part of the GUI. Actually it is broken into two parts - appkit and foundation - foundation is unrelated to the gui providing data structs (NSString, NSArray etc) the appkit contains NSWindow, NSButton, NSCheckbox etc that is integral to the gui. But it is all bundled together with the window server into what Apple calls 'cocoa' and sells only with Mac OS X. You can try gnu-darwin.org - this is a ppc/x86 darwin distro with X-windows etc. Out of interest - it was microsoft that stopped Mac OS X for intel being released. Many don't remember or just don't discuss - when apple bought out NeXT - it was running on intel hardware and the first developer release of OS X included an intel version - then came the publicity deal between MS and Apple - MS agreed to continue development of office for mac and bought $150000 in Apple stock and Apple agreed to drop all the lawsuits against MS. The intel version has never been heard of since. The fact that they maintain the intel version of darwin means they can release an intel version at any time. The structure is in place to have current software recompile for different processors and even include multiple cpu binaries in the one application distribution. But then maybe they want their bases open so they can change their hardware to intel - they fell out with motorola and now get the G5's from IBM. And there have been times before OS X when they looked at getting the Mac OS running on intel hardware - it was between intel and motorola before they changed to the RISC based PPC. -- Shane Ambler Sales Department 007Marketing.com Shane@007Marketing.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 09:50:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A5616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:50:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.doruk.net.tr (smtp.doruk.net.tr [212.58.5.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6245443D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) Received: from smtp.doruk.net.tr (root@localhost) by smtp.doruk.net.tr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j0A9nvY1089071 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:49:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) Message-Id: <200501100949.j0A9nvY1089071@smtp.doruk.net.tr> Received: from VAHOXP (vahric.doruk.net.tr [212.58.13.17]) by smtp.doruk.net.tr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0A9nvoC089065 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:49:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) From: "Vahric MUHTARYAN" To: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:49:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcT2+b25xKb+SdKySjaqr31KqiXlEw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Ethernet Device Time Out Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:50:11 -0000 Hi Everybody, Today my 6 FreeBSD Machines goes down unexpactly , I checked it and I saw that there is a network device timeout problem , I atteched the device to Cisco Cat 2948 GL3 after the problem I connected it to Cisco 3750 swtich and there is no problem now , anybody have any experince or knowledge about it ? any idea _! Maybe somebody will say there is a arp spoof but there is no footprint like arp request . Jan 10 10:40:02 clubber /kernel: fxp0: device timeout Thanks Best Regards Vahric MUHTARYAN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 10:34:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E4A16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:34:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7C043D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:34:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kc.somaratne@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so158892rnf for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:34:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PR6G1J7i274GUczMYXU3kVW1NvPdwjJw+XsNVynz6JXtilgfZvkPQ6sA3uzjhRSRWWL52XyV4fTnvZe5h+MOAdxcASDwlupZdiF2i+5PuV0DMWBJ95LPUyEq+NSl1mKYWKr9tWGSsiczFpqWAYUVgMij2NZJefhdpBHLXbY/lMU= Received: by 10.38.82.14 with SMTP id f14mr10611rnb; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.79.61 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 02:34:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9967ef0705011002347741fa47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:34:30 +0800 From: KC Somaratne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: possible issue with pam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: KC Somaratne List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:34:31 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 11:17:41PM -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote: >> List, >> Hello. I have recently begun to encounter an issue with changing >> passwords on my 5.1 installation. I haven't touched anything on it for >> a few months, and the last change-related activity I had were some >> portupgrade tasks to rid myself of the libintl.so.4 issue solved with >> "portupgrade -R gettext" back around September 2003. I am wondering if >> anyone has experienced an issue similar to mine. >> When I attempt to use passwd to change my password, I get the >> following upon successfully re-typing the password: >> >> passwd: entry inconsistent >> passwd: pam_chauthtok(): error in service module >> >> If anyone has insight on this I would be grateful. A search of the >> list for pam_chauthtok only revealed one person asking a similar >> question related to yppasswd. > > Compare your /etc/pam.d configuration against the sources in > /usr/src/etc/pam.d to make sure you have not damaged your pam > configuration by mis-merging changes. Also make sure you have no > /etc/pam.conf file, which was removed a long time ago. > > Kris Hi, I've had a similar issue with a FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE box for an account belonging to the 'wheel' group. I last changed the password for this account successfully roughly two months ago and since then I haven't changed anything at all (AFAIK..!). Now when I try to change the password for this account using root, it prompts me with the below error message. root:/etc#passwd Changing local password for New Password: Retype New Password: passwd: entry inconsistent passwd: pam_chauthtok(): error in service module I get the same error message when trying to change the password after logging in using the same user account as well. I have carefully verified that I did indeed enter the same string for the password verification. I have also done the checks being recommended in the above mail. The only differences are the /etc/pam.d has an additional file 'ftp'. The /usr/src/etc/pam.d contain two additional files Makefile & convert.pl. Appreciate any suggestions on what might be causing this behaviour and how I might be able to resolve the problem. Also, is this at all any sign of my system being compromised? Thanks in advance, -kc, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 10:51:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455B616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:51:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 033AA43D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Jan 2005 10:51:44 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 11:51:44 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:51:36 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4821524.32PBmF04AX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501101151.40943.emanuel.strobl@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: dynamic mouse(d) acceleration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:51:47 -0000 --nextPart4821524.32PBmF04AX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dear list, is it possible to get dynamic mouse acceleration with Xorg? moused only=20 supports linear acceleration. Everytime I have to work with windows I love = to=20 return to my FreeBSD Workstation, but I'm missing the windows mouse support= =2E=20 Even after years of acclimatization to X mouse, the windows mouse movement = is=20 much much better, more intuitive ("natural") I think. My greatest wish was moused with dynamic acceleration. Thanks, =2DMano --nextPart4821524.32PBmF04AX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB4l48Bylq0S4AzzwRAuqoAJ9wmDcNWdl+h8FCLFErRg1gFWyARwCeKERR TvTCFT1Juo8BC2kmpQAUGyU= =E+4u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4821524.32PBmF04AX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 11:09:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B346216A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:09:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24C843D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:09:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from craig.freebsd@online.de) Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CnxQL-0001VJ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:09:25 +0100 Received: from [217.231.91.30] (helo=[192.168.0.90]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CnxOa-0003g0-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:07:36 +0100 Message-ID: <41E261E9.5040800@online.de> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:07:21 +0100 From: craig Organization: small-pla.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041222) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000201030805020305030405" X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:13d873e74d14c1363715808660186da0 Subject: nvidia driver problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: craig.freebsd@online.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:09:27 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000201030805020305030405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all, i am having a problem getting the nvidia-provided freebsd drivers to work correctly. specifically, although the bsd-provided nv drivers work (albeit without any accel), when i switch to the nvidia-provided nvidia drivers, xorg loads into 8bit colour mode - which looks terrible! looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesnt provide any clues (to me, at least!). there are no terrible errors or dire warnings that seem related. (find attached) and, as best as i can tell, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seems just fine. (also find attached) what else would be useful to tell... i have an Intel 2.4Ghz on a Gigabyte GT motherboard, with 1GB ram. the card is an nVidia GeForce4Ti with 128MB also, i have removed agp from my kernel. and i have also attached sysctl -a hw.nvidia output any help would be greatly appreciated! much ta, -- craig@small-pla.net --------------000201030805020305030405 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Xorg.0.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Xorg.0.log" Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.3 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD jupiter.small-pla.net 5.3-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #2: Mon Jan 10 10:53:39 CET 2005 craig@jupiter.small-pla.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JUPITER i386 Build Date: 16 October 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jan 10 11:40:06 2005 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"). (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 X.Org Video Driver: 0.7 X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,2570 card 1458,2570 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,2571 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,24d2 card 1458,24d2 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,24d4 card 1458,24d2 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,24d7 card 1458,24d2 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:3: chip 8086,24de card 1458,24d2 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,24dd card 1458,5006 rev 02 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card 0000,0000 rev c2 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,24d0 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,24db card 1458,24d2 rev 02 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,24d3 card 1458,24d2 rev 02 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0281 card 0000,0000 rev a1 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:02:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,8061 rev 07 class 04,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 02:02:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 07 class 09,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 02:03:0: chip 1033,0035 card 1735,0035 rev 41 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 02:03:1: chip 1033,0035 card 1735,0035 rev 41 class 0c,03,10 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:03:2: chip 1033,00e0 card 1735,00e0 rev 01 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:04:0: chip 1106,3044 card 1106,3044 rev 43 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:09:0: chip 11ab,4320 card 1458,e000 rev 13 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000c (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf9ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0006 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 2 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xfa000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x] rev 161, Mem @ 0xf8000000/24, 0xf0000000/27 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe8000000 from 0xefffffff to 0xe7ffffff (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xfb000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x1000000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xfb005000 - 0xfb005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xfb004000 - 0xfb007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xfb007000 - 0xfb007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xfb006000 - 0xfb007fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xffffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [7] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E [10] -1 0 0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [12] -1 0 0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [13] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xfb000000 from 0xfbffffff to 0xfb003fff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xfb004000 from 0xfb007fff to 0xfb004fff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xfb006000 from 0xfb007fff to 0xfb006fff (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xfb000000 - 0xfb003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xfb005000 - 0xfb005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xfb004000 - 0xfb004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xfb007000 - 0xfb007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xfb006000 - 0xfb006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xffffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [7] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E [10] -1 0 0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [12] -1 0 0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [13] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xfb000000 - 0xfb003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xfb005000 - 0xfb005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xfb004000 - 0xfb004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xfb007000 - 0xfb007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xfb006000 - 0xfb006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xffffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [12] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension FontCache (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.6113 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "xtrap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxtrap.a (II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "speedo" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a (II) Module speedo: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.1 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Speedo (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.6113 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) NVIDIA X Driver 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:09:45 PDT 2004 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all NVIDIA GPUs (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Chipset NVIDIA GPU found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xfb000000 - 0xfb003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xfb005000 - 0xfb005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xfb004000 - 0xfb004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xfb007000 - 0xfb007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xfb006000 - 0xfb006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xffffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [12] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xfb000000 - 0xfb003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xfb005000 - 0xfb005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xfb004000 - 0xfb004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xfb007000 - 0xfb007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xfb006000 - 0xfb006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xffffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [12] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [14] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [15] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [16] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [17] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E [29] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [30] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) NVIDIA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section "Screen0" for depth/fbbpp 8/8 (==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 8, (==) framebuffer bpp 8 (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is PseudoColor (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NvAGP" "1" (**) NVIDIA(0): Use of NVIDIA internal AGP requested (--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF0000000 (--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xF8000000 (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8601000,0x1000) was already clear (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU detected as: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 04.28.20.05.00 (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected AGP rate: 8X (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8680000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8601000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8681000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf80c0000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8001000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8682000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8603000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8683000,0x1000) was already clear (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kBytes (II) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s): CRT-1, DFP-0 (WW) NVIDIA(0): Multiple displays connected, but only one display allowed; (WW) NVIDIA(0): using first display (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 8 bpp: 350 MHz (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 16 bpp: 350 MHz (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 32 bpp: 350 MHz (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) NVIDIA(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-81.00 kHz (II) NVIDIA(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 56.00-75.00 Hz (II) NVIDIA(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 350.00 MHz (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 175.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 170MHz (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1152x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "576x384" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (**) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes for display device CRT-1: (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1600x1200": 175.5 MHz, 81.2 kHz, 65.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1600x1200": 162.0 MHz, 75.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1400x1050": 155.8 MHz, 81.5 kHz, 74.8 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1400x1050": 122.0 MHz, 64.9 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 108.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x960": 108.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 87.8 MHz, 81.2 kHz, 65.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 81.0 MHz, 75.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "700x525": 77.9 MHz, 81.5 kHz, 74.8 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "700x525": 61.0 MHz, 64.9 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x512": 67.5 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x512": 54.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 54.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "576x432": 54.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 39.4 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 37.5 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 32.5 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "416x312": 28.6 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.7 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 24.8 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.1 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 25.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 20.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 18.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.3 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1600 x 1200 (--) NVIDIA(0): Display dimensions: (430, 320) mm (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (94, 95) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (WW) NVIDIA(0): OpenGL is only supported in depths 16 and 24 (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B] [1] 0 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [4] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0xfb000000 - 0xfb003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xfb005000 - 0xfb005fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xfb004000 - 0xfb004fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xfb007000 - 0xfb007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xfb006000 - 0xfb006fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xfc000000 - 0xffffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [14] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [16] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) [17] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [18] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [19] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x0000ac00 - 0x0000acff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x0000a800 - 0x0000a8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x0000a400 - 0x0000a4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x0000a000 - 0x0000a0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x0000b800 - 0x0000b8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x0000b400 - 0x0000b4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x0000bc00 - 0x0000bcff (0x100) IX[B]E [31] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [32] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8680000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8601000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8681000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf80c0000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8001000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8682000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8603000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NVIDIA(0): Write-combining range (0xf8683000,0x1000) was already clear (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1600x1200" (II) Loading extension NV-GLX (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL (==) RandR enabled Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing extension GLX (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/sysmouse" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" (**) Option "Buttons" "5" (==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 5 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard0" handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "NVIDIA Event Handler" (type: Other) (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse SetClientVersion: 0 8 --------------000201030805020305030405 Content-Type: text/plain; name="xorg.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="xorg.conf" Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "speedo" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Samsung" ModelName "SyncMaster 213T" HorizSync 30-81 VertRefresh 56-75 EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "HWcursor" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "FlatPanel" # [] #Option "FPDither" # [] #Option "CrtcNumber" # # Option "NoLogo" "True" # Option "RenderAccel" "True" # Option "HWCursor" "1" # Option "CursorShadow" "True" Option "NvAGP" "1" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" EndSubSection EndSection --------------000201030805020305030405 Content-Type: text/plain; name="sysctl.hw.nvidia" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="sysctl.hw.nvidia" hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000e1b:0x1f004302 hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.28.20.05.00 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP --------------000201030805020305030405-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 11:28:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9D416A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:28:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yggdrasil.interstroom.nl (yggdrasil.interstroom.nl [80.85.129.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5661A43D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:28:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from o.greve@axis.nl) Received: from ip127-180.introweb.nl ([80.65.127.180] helo=[192.168.1.30]) by yggdrasil with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cnxih-0001BA-00 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:28:24 +0100 Message-ID: <41E266DC.2040000@axis.nl> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:28:28 +0100 From: Olaf Greve User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41B857A0.2070906@leg.ensieg.inpg.fr> <41DE7100.9050606@axis.nl> <171200245.20050107122701@hexren.net> In-Reply-To: <171200245.20050107122701@hexren.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Interstroom virusscan, please e-mail helpdesk@interstroom.nl for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: Subject: Re: Problem when SSH-ing to FreeBSD 5.3 using PuTTY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:28:25 -0000 Hi, Alright, last Friday I promised to let you guys know what the outcome was of the issue where PuTTY wouldn't connect to FreeBSD 5.3. And the winner is...: > Look in /etc/ssh/sshd_conf for the setting "PasswordAuthentication" I > think the default changed from yes to no. > HExren Indeed. By default there's a line: #PasswordAuthentication no Changing that in: PasswordAuthentication yes And then performing a: kill -s HUP Does the trick! Tnx and cheerz, Olafo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 11:51:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1B216A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:51:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av1-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av1-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D700643D5C for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:51:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f00makr@dd.chalmers.se) Received: by av1-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 1B60337E5C; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:51:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.180]) by av1-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F1E37E5F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:51:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.248.111.175] (c83-248-111-175.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.111.175]) by smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EF237E45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:51:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E26C79.30800@dd.chalmers.se> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:52:25 +0100 From: Mats Kristoffersen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E16DAA.8000807@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109205123.GI20686@keyslapper.org> <41E19CD3.30602@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109211409.GJ20686@keyslapper.org> <41E19FC0.2000808@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109231359.GK20686@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050109231359.GK20686@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:51:59 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/09/05 10:18 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >> >>>On 01/09/05 10:06 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: >>> >>> >>>>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>What does the cards config block look like in your xorg.conf? >>> >>>Lou >> >>Section "Device" >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "nvidia" >> Option "NvAGP" "1" >>EndSection > > > Try adding this: > Option "RenderAccel" "True" > > Lou No luck. I still get the NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. messages, and the hw.nvidia.agp.status.* oids don't exist. I use xorg-server 6.8.1 from packages (as the server crashes when I run opengl apps if I compile from ports). The rest of the xorg components are from ports. I'll try installing xorg-libraries from packages too, to see if it helps. 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Problems or inappropriate use of the service should be reported to the administrator at . -- anon@paranoici.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 12:05:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8029F16A501 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:05:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9E243D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CnyJ2-000615-PF; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:05:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:05:56 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050110120556.GI25665@lb.tenfour> References: <109593615.20050109100927@wanadoo.fr> <20050109012537.A79965@logik.ath.cx> <139201652.20050109105314@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <139201652.20050109105314@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:05:58 -0000 * Anthony Atkielski [0154 09:54]: > Mark writes: > > M> Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have > M> to recompile your kernel? :) > > Usually once when I first install the OS, then never again (unless I > change something in the hardware, which I hardly ever do). Windows > often has to be rebooted just to install a new application (although > that's a problem with the application, not a problem with the OS, in > most cases). And what about security patches? -- 'If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... Checkmate!' -- Zapp. Brannigan Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 12:40:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2B016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:40:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kayjay.xs4all.nl (kayjay.xs4all.nl [80.126.33.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9860F43D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:40:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karelj@kayjay.xs4all.nl) Received: from kayjay.xs4all.nl (localhost.xs4all.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kayjay.xs4all.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0ACeIqI004850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:40:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from karelj@kayjay.xs4all.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by kayjay.xs4all.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0ACeIBQ004849; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:40:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from karelj) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:40:18 +0100 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: craig Message-ID: <20050110124018.GA4822@kayjay.xs4all.nl> References: <41E261E9.5040800@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E261E9.5040800@online.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia driver problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:40:21 -0000 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:07:21PM +0100, craig wrote: > hi all, > > i am having a problem getting the nvidia-provided freebsd drivers to > work correctly. > specifically, although the bsd-provided nv drivers work (albeit without > any accel), when i switch to the nvidia-provided nvidia drivers, xorg > loads into 8bit colour mode - which looks terrible! > > looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesnt provide any clues (to me, at > least!). there are no terrible errors or dire warnings that seem related. > (find attached) > > and, as best as i can tell, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seems just fine. > (also find attached) Not sure if it helps, but try adding the line DefaultDepth 24 to the "Screen" section: > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1600x1200" > EndSubSection > EndSection Good luck, Karel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 12:42:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CEB16A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:42:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF4843D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:42:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEBF4297; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:42:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03734-08; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:42:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9053B412D; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:42:38 +0100 (CET) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: craig.freebsd@online.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:42:38 +0100 Message-Id: <20050110124150.M2588@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <41E261E9.5040800@online.de> References: <41E261E9.5040800@online.de> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: nvidia driver problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:42:01 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:07:21 +0100, craig wrote > hi all, > > i am having a problem getting the nvidia-provided freebsd drivers to > work correctly. > specifically, although the bsd-provided nv drivers work (albeit without > any accel), when i switch to the nvidia-provided nvidia drivers, xorg > loads into 8bit colour mode - which looks terrible! > > looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesnt provide any clues (to me, at > least!). there are no terrible errors or dire warnings that seem related. > (find attached) > > and, as best as i can tell, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seems just fine. > (also find attached) > > what else would be useful to tell... > i have an Intel 2.4Ghz on a Gigabyte GT motherboard, with 1GB ram. > the card is an nVidia GeForce4Ti with 128MB > > also, i have removed agp from my kernel. > and i have also attached sysctl -a hw.nvidia output Adding the following in the screen section of xorg.conf might do the trick: DefaultDepth 24 > > any help would be greatly appreciated! > > much ta, > > -- > craig@small-pla.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 12:47:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93DD16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:47:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2833D43D54 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:47:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp36-4.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.36.4]) j0ACiwAi089841; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:14:58 +1030 (CST) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: mess-mate , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:14:57 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20050108153717.6864134a@eric.placeverte.home> <200501091146.51095.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20050109100748.5a696381@eric.placeverte.home> In-Reply-To: <20050109100748.5a696381@eric.placeverte.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501102314.58007.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: file roo large !! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:47:27 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:37 pm, mess-mate wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:46:51 +1030 > > Malcolm Kay wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:07 am, mess-mate wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > this is not new I think, but it is for me. > > > I've searching the net without concrete results. > > > So, I've copied from an ext3fs a backup file ( home.tar.bz2) > > > in my home dir. So long it's ok. > > > But now I've to cp or mv this file to a new ext3fs partition. > > > And I've an error message " File too large" and stops the transfer. > > > This file is about 24GB and 21GB are copied before the stop. > > > This data is very important for me. > > > > Are you sure you are posting to the correct mailing list. > > Ext3fs is basically a linux file system, while this is a FreeBSD list. > > > > Malcolm > > I do :) > It's a FreeBSD problem. > I've installed 5.3 and had to get data from a linux box. > This data must be returned from the FBSD box. It really is not very clear what you are trying to do. My impression is that you are trying to transfer a backup file from a linux system to a FBSD system, but later want to return it to the linux system. But why do you wish to store it under an ext3fs on FBSD rather than a ufs or ufs2 system? Does your FBSD ext3fs partition have enough space? Is it really possible to have a ext3fs mount under FBSD 5.3? I know you can mount an ext2fs file system and an existing linux ext3fs will probably mount successfully (without journaling) as an ext2fs; but is this what are you trying to do? How are you transfering the file from the linux box to the FBSD box? You provide very little information on what you are really trying to do? Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 12:55:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1308316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D68F43D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:55:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 48480 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 12:55:26 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 12:55:26 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:55:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1105307890.1371.42.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> In-Reply-To: <1105307890.1371.42.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101355.26254.4711@chello.at> cc: Tom McLaughlin Subject: Re: Updating a running jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:55:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 January 2005 22:58, Tom McLaughlin wrote: [...] > My next idea is to use a script on the jailhost which carries out the > steps for building a jail from the manpage and essentially installing > over the old jail. I just wonder how that will affect /etc within the > jail. I want many of the changes to /etc that occur in -stable but I > don't want to overwrite all the changes I have made. I guess I could > skip `make distribution' and run mergemaster later. How I update my jails: 1. cvsup sources 2. make buildworld and buildkernel (to update host) 3. make installkernel, make installworld and mergemaster (to update host) 4. cd /usr/src && make installworld DESTDIR=/your_jail_root_here (run from host to update jail) 5. mergemaster -D /your_jail_root_here (run from host to update jail) > My last idea is to mount the jailhost's /usr/src and /usr/obj > directories into the jail with nullfs and then after having run > buildworld on the jailhost, run installworld in the jail and then use > mergemaster to take care of /etc within the jail. I've used a similar > process to update OpenBSD machines over NFS but have never tried it on > FreeBSD. Normally you don't need the /usr/obj tree in your jail. However, some ports need a set of /usr/src to compile. I for myself prefer to have independent sets of /usr/src and /usr/ports inside my jails, so I also run cvsup inside my jails. Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4ns+09WjGjvKU74RArVyAJ9M4ZQ0yPUH+d3K6Yypq8TIO5Sk7wCeNDm1 F+/B+5/izJFAwBpaM1dvQWI= =+jY4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 13:01:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEF716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:01:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo03ps.bigpond.com (gizmo03ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F48F43D67 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:01:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@another.com.au) Received: (qmail 24993 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 13:01:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam09.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.94) by gizmo03ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 13:01:34 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-137-23-128.vic.bigpond.net.au ([144.137.23.128]) by psmam09.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 162/4724128) with SMTP id 4724128; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:01:34 +1000 From: "Richard Beyer" To: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:01:24 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcT3FH0fS0PqDuxNTECnk4ToKvC/Ww== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Message-Id: <20050110130137.9F48F43D67@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Sendmail Bandwidth Tracking per User X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:01:38 -0000 I have Sendmail 8.13.2 on FreeBSD 4.10, hosting several dozen virtual domains (email and web). Has anyone on the list ever managed to find an easy way to track bandwidth usage per user (and virtual domain) from sendmail logs? I'm thinking something similar to http://www.dynw.com/iog/ but for email. Cheers and thanks, Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 13:26:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D925116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:26:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yggdrasil.interstroom.nl (yggdrasil.interstroom.nl [80.85.129.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9392043D46 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:26:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from o.greve@axis.nl) Received: from ip127-180.introweb.nl ([80.65.127.180] helo=[192.168.1.30]) by yggdrasil with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CnzYz-0002Lf-00 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:26:29 +0100 Message-ID: <41E2828A.2030802@axis.nl> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:26:34 +0100 From: Olaf Greve User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41B857A0.2070906@leg.ensieg.inpg.fr> <41DE7DA3.8060206@axis.nl> <20050107132423.GA47763@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20050107132423.GA47763@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Interstroom virusscan, please e-mail helpdesk@interstroom.nl for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: Subject: Re: Sil 3114 RAID controller issues with FreeBSD 5.3 Release AMD-64 - and Promise RAID controllers??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:26:31 -0000 Hi, Last Friday I ranted: >In this case, time IS money, so that's why I'm trying to convince my >client to better spend that money (and my time) on simply buying a >supported hardware RAID controller, which really is a win-win situation >for both my client and myself. However, somehow I've not yet been able >to drive that argument home, so who knows...:/ Well, eureka, I did it! :) That is... I managed to convince the client to go hardware RAID. ;) They have a preference for the following controller: Promise FAST Trak S150TX4 But.................................. As far as I gather from the supported hardware list (fbsd 5.3, amd-64) at: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/hardware-amd64.html#DISK It looks like this controller is not supported. :( To further compound matters, checking the docs on the controller suggests that, again, this is basically a software RAID solution (no CPU, no on-board memory, and a 66MHz PCI 2.2 32-bit interface): nice to complement their otherwise blazingly fast 64-bit AMD machine, duh! :((( Oh well, again I made a very strong suggestion to buy the Adaptec 2200s U320 SCSI RAID controller, but we'll see... :) Meanwhile, does anyone know of a good hardware SATA RAID controller capable of supporting RAID 10, and which is properly supported by FreeBSD 5.3 (amd64)? Any experiences? Any do's and dont's? Tnx & cheerz! Olafo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 13:42:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C527C16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:42:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.unifiednetworks.co.uk (host217-40-97-202.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.40.97.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FB843D39 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:42:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sbye@convergedservices.co.uk) Received: from convergedservices.co.uk (cain.unifiedgroup.local [10.0.0.6]) j0ADkbUv011516 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:46:38 GMT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:44:57 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? thread-index: AcT3GpLFbJ1MuFsZThi86UgHuZLkOQ== From: "Scott Bye" To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:42:41 -0000 I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and list= ening for connections. However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and nothing = appears to be logged for any of the services. It's obviously affecting both POP3 and IMAP, leaving the mail services on m= y server useless. I tried reinstalling the port for courier-imap, but it complained that it c= ouldn't find courierlogger. So I reinstalled courier-authlib from ports, an= d reinstalled courier-imap and it no longer complained. However, the servic= es are still doing exactly the same! Any ideas what has happened?! The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may = be legally privileged. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 13:52:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA51116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:52:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8C843D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:52:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45EF45092; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:52:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.rulez.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (daemon.rulez.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53181-01; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:52:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from danger.mcrn.sk (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4474508C; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:52:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:51:59 +0100 From: DanGer X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <615850241.20050110145159@rulez.sk> To: "Scott Bye" , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at daemon.rulez.sk Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DanGer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:52:31 -0000 Hello Scott, Monday, January 10, 2005, 2:44:57 PM, you typed: > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be > running and listening for connections. > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, > and nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. > It's obviously affecting both POP3 and IMAP, leaving the mail services on my server useless. > I tried reinstalling the port for courier-imap, but it complained > that it couldn't find courierlogger. So I reinstalled > courier-authlib from ports, and reinstalled courier-imap and it no > longer complained. However, the services are still doing exactly the > same! > Any ideas what has happened?! kill all old processes, and restart your imap, pop3 and authlib -- Best Regards, +----------==/\/\==----------+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer | \\\'',) The | DanGer@IRCnet ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^ Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | .\._/_) To +----------==\/\/==----------+ Serve [ "Just what we needed! A Q-ish Princess!" -Riker re:Amanda ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 13:56:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B058B16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:56:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.unifiednetworks.co.uk (host217-40-97-202.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.40.97.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E5643D46 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:56:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sbye@convergedservices.co.uk) Received: from convergedservices.co.uk (cain.unifiedgroup.local [10.0.0.6]) j0AE0PsT011542 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:00:25 GMT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:58:17 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? thread-index: AcT3G/vPBs+c91hzS7WF8wr0BOhIVwAAHOl2 From: "Scott Bye" To: "DanGer" , X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:56:31 -0000 I already tried that I'm afraid, without success... :( -----Original Message----- From: DanGer [mailto:danger@rulez.sk] Sent: Mon 1/10/2005 1:51 PM To: Scott Bye; questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? =20 Hello Scott, Monday, January 10, 2005, 2:44:57 PM, you typed: > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be > running and listening for connections. > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, > and nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. > It's obviously affecting both POP3 and IMAP, leaving the mail services on= my server useless. > I tried reinstalling the port for courier-imap, but it complained > that it couldn't find courierlogger. So I reinstalled > courier-authlib from ports, and reinstalled courier-imap and it no > longer complained. However, the services are still doing exactly the > same! > Any ideas what has happened?! kill all old processes, and restart your imap, pop3 and authlib --=20 Best Regards, +----------=3D=3D/\/\=3D=3D----------+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer | \\\'',) The | DanGer@IRCnet ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^ Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | .\._/_) To +----------=3D=3D\/\/=3D=3D----------+ Serve [ "Just what we needed! A Q-ish Princess!" -Riker re:Amanda ] The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may = be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee or addressee= s. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete the message and any = attachments and notify the sender of mis-delivery; any use or disclosure of= the contents of either is un-authorised and may be unlawful. All liability= for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 14:04:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197AB16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:04:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9FA43D54 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:04:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (estartu@localhost.ze.tu-muenchen.de [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0AE4B58034049; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:04:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0AE4B2g034048; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:04:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:04:11 +0100 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: Olaf Greve Message-ID: <20050110140411.GA33947@augusta.de> References: <41B857A0.2070906@leg.ensieg.inpg.fr> <41DE7DA3.8060206@axis.nl> <20050107132423.GA47763@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <41E2828A.2030802@axis.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E2828A.2030802@axis.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sil 3114 RAID controller issues with FreeBSD 5.3 Release AMD-64 - and Promise RAID controllers??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:04:18 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 02:26:34PM +0100, Olaf Greve wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Last Friday I ranted: >=20 > >In this case, time IS money, so that's why I'm trying to convince my > >client to better spend that money (and my time) on simply buying a > >supported hardware RAID controller, which really is a win-win situation > >for both my client and myself. However, somehow I've not yet been able > >to drive that argument home, so who knows...:/ >=20 > Well, eureka, I did it! :) > That is... I managed to convince the client to go hardware RAID. ;) >=20 > They have a preference for the following controller: Promise FAST Trak=20 > S150TX4 >=20 > But.................................. >=20 > As far as I gather from the supported hardware list (fbsd 5.3, amd-64)=20 > at: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/hardware-amd64.html#DISK >=20 > It looks like this controller is not supported. :( >=20 > To further compound matters, checking the docs on the controller=20 > suggests that, again, this is basically a software RAID solution (no=20 > CPU, no on-board memory, and a 66MHz PCI 2.2 32-bit interface): nice to= =20 > complement their otherwise blazingly fast 64-bit AMD machine, duh! :((( >=20 > Oh well, again I made a very strong suggestion to buy the Adaptec 2200s= =20 > U320 SCSI RAID controller, but we'll see... :) >=20 > Meanwhile, does anyone know of a good hardware SATA RAID controller=20 > capable of supporting RAID 10, and which is properly supported by=20 > FreeBSD 5.3 (amd64)? Any experiences? Any do's and dont's? Hi,=20 I'am runnig some 3ware Storage Controllers on 5.2.1 and=20 5.3 on i386 Hardware. They work well.=20 I use a 3ware 3W-8500-8 disk controller with 4 disks in Raid 5 Mode=20 and some 3ware 3W-7006-2 disk controller with 2 disks in Raid 1 Mode.=20 So far no problems with them. They react well on HotSwaps of defectiv=20 disks (had one diskfailure allready).=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | Privat: estartu@augusta.de | auf Anfrage/ Germany | | on request=20 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: S1xZloIzBYSf7c+FfbV3+ZNYA1duvSgQ iQCVAwUBQeKLWgzx22nOTJQRAQHsfQP9F0cX9lj8P6X8WkDZwtudPHC5fQJ0ZLko B4wMExLQKAK5RicYoN+1SJ32KWGkK5xuMllUZp8GBg7CV39xzwMsvPoIA5UDbSh3 Rd0aLWfLYHR3CqsyKy0FW4u0b22f5v8Dva+vHOycNZhFilpgPXmK3ldQe3tdSkXw M1zswgHrt7A= =KTZV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 14:36:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF0516A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:36:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web42202.mail.yahoo.com (web42202.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C11743D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:36:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdneophyte@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 24865 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2005 14:36:54 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=tvvwp6SW9QUqkUGN3PpMsTrVWF/guwRzf3/uE03adiW0ITmmkicS8DiRt6vrHpf4InSFY/EhDCtgFbngfimvJv3JPBqCtAGKUjGZSvzcZygqtDfUBkmrSN/rGL256VIkun+u3wYyuWBSD0yJN1CVt9oYPt5TwZUh07/LqSNlD9A= ; Message-ID: <20050110143654.24863.qmail@web42202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.15.68.137] by web42202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:36:54 PST Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:36:54 -0800 (PST) From: Bsd Neophyte To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: compaq proliant dl580 w/5.3 - random reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:36:54 -0000 hi, I've been having an issue with a Compaq Proliant DL580. For some odd reason it randomly reboots. This usually happens when I leave it on for more than two days. I'd like to find out when it reboots first of all, and second, obviously, I'd like to find out why, and prevent it from doing so. The system specs are as follows: DL580 dual xeon 700mhz 1 gig ram 3 x 9.1 gig drives in a RAID 5 array on a compaq integrated array controller 3Com 3c905C-TX dual intel 82559 pro/100 ...and it's running FreeBSD 5.3, which were installed from the CD's. In addition, and I don't know if this is relevant, but I'm getting a slew of messages that say something like: "calcru: negative runtime of -x usec for pid y (something like: yarrow, g_down, g_up, etc) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 14:39:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB62316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:39:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7D143D39 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:39:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0AEdtmj007849 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:39:56 -0500 Message-ID: <41E293C1.8030807@schmittnet.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:40:01 -0500 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Which opengroupware port to install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:39:57 -0000 I want to try the opengroupware application, but am not sure about which version to install. Specifically, the ports collection has a linux version of the software listed, but the opengroupware.org site lists a version specifically for FreeBSD, which also appears to be a linux version. But the ports collection has a date of 2003-07-20 and the version listed for FreeBSD on the opengroupware web site has a date of 12-Oct-2004. Can anyone offer any guidance? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 14:44:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20A016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:44:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23EE043D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:44:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 48941 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 14:44:38 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 14:44:38 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:44:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200501101151.40943.emanuel.strobl@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200501101151.40943.emanuel.strobl@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101544.38671.4711@chello.at> cc: Emanuel Strobl Subject: Re: dynamic mouse(d) acceleration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:44:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 January 2005 11:51, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Dear list, > > is it possible to get dynamic mouse acceleration with Xorg? moused only > supports linear acceleration. Everytime I have to work with windows I love > to return to my FreeBSD Workstation, but I'm missing the windows mouse > support. Even after years of acclimatization to X mouse, the windows mouse > movement is much much better, more intuitive ("natural") I think. Mouse acceleration under Xorg is handled inside the wm's. If you use kde run the command 'kcmshell mouse'. This pops up a configuration dialog where you can change the values of 'Pointer acceleration' and 'Pointer threshold' to your needs. Gnome has something similar, it's 'gnome-mouse-properties'. On some wm like xfce there seems to be no command available, however they provide a mouse config dialog in their settings menu. Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4pTW09WjGjvKU74RAoaFAJ9r7OIKrMY34L26sxihYqylkws4cQCfZJKG W157Hwo3dJDx7fFFgmVCkOo= =7uTN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 14:56:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0953816A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:56:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from camay.yandex.ru (camay.yandex.ru [213.180.200.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7886343D4C for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:55:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b0ntrict0r@yandex.ru) Received: from YAMAIL (camay.yandex.ru) by mail.yandex.ru id ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:55:45 +0300 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:55:45 +0300 (MSK) From: "b0ntrict0r" Sender: b0ntrict0r@yandex.ru Message-Id: <41E29771.00003A.08989@camay.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] Errors-To: b0ntrict0r@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-source-ip: 195.112.251.104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Cannot install and execute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: b0ntrict0r@yandex.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:56:00 -0000 >Hello! I'm ArsenyI bought FreeBSD 5.2.1 on 2 CD from your distributor - www.linuxcenter.ru. And I have troubles with this system. >1. I have videocard Sapphire RADEON 9200 SE and I cannot start X-server with my videocard. X-server returns a messages such as 'Cannot connect with device', 'Missing device' or 'Missing driver'. >2. I have optical mouse A4Tech WOP-35 and X-server don't work with this mouse. But it's work with classical mechanic mouse. Laser mouses also doesn't support, does it? >3. When I install this OS can I install on this HDD other OSes (e.g. Windows)? >4. I have try to install this OS on virtual machine managed by VMware Workstation 4.0.2 build 5592 under WinXP. Firstly, when I checked packs for installation, installer tryed to copy 'expat'. It copyed 1024 KB @ 1kbps and installer was down. I reply this operation few times then loader return me a message like this: 'Primary master failed'. Of course, OS doesn't loading now. > > I am running FreeBSD 5.3 under XP in VMware 4.5.2 it works good. My hardware is similiar to you. I have a radeon 9000 and a laser mouse I suggest you contact VMware and see if there are know conflicts with the versions you are trying to use. > >I bought my money for this CDs because I need to work and develop programs in this OS but I cannot do it! I need a workable system there and now, ON MY HARDWARE!!! Please solve this problem! > Thanks, Arseny >b0ntrict0r@yahoo.com (American server), >b0ntrict0r@yandex.ru (Russian server) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 15:22:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0282616A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:22:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out002.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5819E43D49 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:22:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050110152201.MIPP12052.out002.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:22:01 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC23911CDE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69201-05 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BF0EB11CDD; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:22:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:22:00 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110152200.GB69615@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050109183150.GE20686@keyslapper.org> <41E17F0B.8050109@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109191613.GH20686@keyslapper.org> <41E1884F.9060600@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109205123.GI20686@keyslapper.org> <41E19CD3.30602@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109211409.GJ20686@keyslapper.org> <41E19FC0.2000808@dd.chalmers.se> <20050109231359.GK20686@keyslapper.org> <41E26C79.30800@dd.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E26C79.30800@dd.chalmers.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:22:01 -0600 Subject: Re: AGP not working on nForce3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:22:03 -0000 On 01/10/05 12:52 PM, Mats Kristoffersen sat at the `puter and typed: > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > Try adding this: > > Option "RenderAccel" "True" > > > > Lou > > No luck. I still get the > > NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel > NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. > > messages, and the hw.nvidia.agp.status.* oids don't exist. > > I use xorg-server 6.8.1 from packages (as the server crashes when I run > opengl apps if I compile from ports). The rest of the xorg components > are from ports. I'll try installing xorg-libraries from packages too, to > see if it helps. I don't have trouble with OpenGL apps, and I'm running all the Xorg stuff from ports (same version). You know, there was a thread related to this same AGP problem back on 11/30, pretty much throught the first week in December. I was convinced my AGP was working until Kenneth Culver showed me I didn't. There were a number of people that had it working, and several that didn't. I don't think we ever figured out just what the magic sword was. Check the list archives for that thread. Maybe you'll find something I missed. I did have the nvidia drivers compiled without linux support, not sure if that was a factor. Have you read the linux compatability support section in /usr/X11R6/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/README? You might check it out to see if all your i's are dotted. I really hate to say it, but I'm pretty much out of ideas at this point. It may be a day or so, but I'll try recompiling my drivers with Linux support and see if that breaks it. Either way I'll let you know. If you figure out what the magic sword is, let the list know. This has come up once or twice in the past, and there's always one or two that just don't get the results they wanted. Good luck. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion. -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 15:34:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B98E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:34:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.speakeasy.net (mail2.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9369B43D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31764 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 15:34:33 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jan 2005 15:34:33 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 20F2B44; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:34:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Emanuel Strobl References: <200501101151.40943.emanuel.strobl@gmx.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 10 Jan 2005 10:34:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200501101151.40943.emanuel.strobl@gmx.net> Message-ID: <44fz19qovs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dynamic mouse(d) acceleration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:34:34 -0000 Emanuel Strobl writes: > is it possible to get dynamic mouse acceleration with Xorg? moused only > supports linear acceleration. Everytime I have to work with windows I love to > return to my FreeBSD Workstation, but I'm missing the windows mouse support. > Even after years of acclimatization to X mouse, the windows mouse movement is > much much better, more intuitive ("natural") I think. > > My greatest wish was moused with dynamic acceleration. moused(8)? That will affect you mostly on text consoles. X already does somewhat more adaptive mouse acceleration: play around with the parameters for "xset m". And look at your window manager, whichever one it is; some of them have additional mouse-input capabilities built-in. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 15:35:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94D916A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:35:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ecommerce2.host4u.net (ecommerce2.host4u.net [216.71.64.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E38843D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:35:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from email.autoresponder@tvturnoff.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by ecommerce2.host4u.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id j0AFZjm15012 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:35:45 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:35:45 -0600 From: email.autoresponder@tvturnoff.org Message-Id: <200501101535.j0AFZjm15012@ecommerce2.host4u.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: one Subject: Your message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:35:46 -0000 Thank you for contacting TV-Turnoff Network. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 15:45:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA5416A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:45:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0876B43D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:45:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so190037wri for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:45:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=tYEZZbS48J75raBOzuRVq9CQShK+cnTZwyzR/1YV0kVFePfmdp/Z9nhhF6sSoxy0Nz67wEviDBIOSKMCDzcJ0w7H1dUGu3oyeIDKQlJVSgTJAMww3wN8uo6kB7I5hTXHaULy6alMQ5aaxvxVm8eSCeTrybZqZNGRFAW/SQc9NFI= Received: by 10.54.53.51 with SMTP id b51mr2393wra; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.54 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:45:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e050110074527068207@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:45:38 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: Alan Curtis In-Reply-To: <5FAD9AE2-60C9-11D9-A934-000A959EB894@ieee.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <5FAD9AE2-60C9-11D9-A934-000A959EB894@ieee.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netatalk, NFS, OS X and backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:45:39 -0000 have you looked at amanda? Uses it's daemons to transfer the data, and you can select where to comress (on client or server). works well when used with hfstar on MacOS X ... restores are normally done by the admin and currently its a cli...no plans AFAIK to make this a gui. --- Martin On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:29:59 -0500, Alan Curtis wrote: > I need some advice about integrating my FreeBSD server with some Macs > running OS X. > > I have a server running FreeBSD 5.3 with NFS and netatalk enabled, a > Powerbook G4 running OS X 10.3.7 and they are connected through a > wireless network. I used the Powerbook to administer the server using > ssh, which works well. I would also like to use the server to backup > files (for multiple users) from the Powerbook. I have played around > with both NFS and netatalk (afpd) and both seem to be working, in that > I can manually mount the shares on the Powerbook. I have got the NFS > share to automount on the Powerbook but not the afp share. I can copy > files to and from both the nfs and afp mounted shares, including > resource forks. I have played with various backup utilities including > rsync, psync and rdiff-backup with varying degrees of success. > > Some observations/questions > > 1. netatalk afp seems consistently and significantly faster than nfs. > Is this to be expected or might I have a problem with nfs? If so how do > I diagnose and fix it? > > 2. I would prefer to use nfs, because I can automount it on the > Powerbook and run a cron (actually anacron) script to backup the > multiple users. I haven't yet worked out how (or if) I can do this with > afp (this is really a Mac question I know). > > 3. I would like to use a backup scheme which is automatic, invisible to > the user, yet configured in a way that the archive can be navigated, > and files appear in folders on the Mac finder in a consistent way (with > resource forks set up correctly). > > All of this seems almost possible, yet I don't seem to have got it just > right yet. Has anyone one any insight they can spread or experiences > they can share of a similar set up? > > Alan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 15:55:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D9A16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:55:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95FE43D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:55:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so191472wri for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:55:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=blVuGq05/5Tt9QD+Fy3pV6U4ZzwwObxUESexG1DxNv6Sc5GX9IxQSoLQoyDEaM65Lvpm4USL1tjLNuq7oFs+OcakFGEioKXfCS1pHdH9/BEvLZisYirZkdNGuuuvEi2Dq1sX8VT1UTBEzbghvyeYIUcOOD00S6vYhDPj/2sy7HQ= Received: by 10.54.44.78 with SMTP id r78mr43586wrr; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.54 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:55:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e050110075571fd6cb5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:55:01 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" In-Reply-To: <41E293C1.8030807@schmittnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41E293C1.8030807@schmittnet.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which opengroupware port to install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:55:11 -0000 Bill I managed to compile OGo from source.(FreeBSD 5.2.1)...search for my work email address on the Ogo-users (martinh@solid-state-logic.com). It's a cpmplete mind melt as you keep having to go back to things you've done and re-make them....but it is possible. -- MRIN On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:40:01 -0500, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote: > I want to try the opengroupware application, but am not sure about which > version to install. Specifically, the ports collection has a linux > version of the software listed, but the opengroupware.org site lists a > version specifically for FreeBSD, which also appears to be a linux > version. But the ports collection has a date of 2003-07-20 and the > version listed for FreeBSD on the opengroupware web site has a date of > 12-Oct-2004. Can anyone offer any guidance? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 16:08:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207D316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:08:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA8E43D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:08:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: from infidel.fajita.org (81-178-64-28.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.64.28]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FE0E0003BE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:08:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from black.fajita.org ([192.168.0.20]) by infidel.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0AG63AY005068 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:06:03 GMT (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: from black.fajita.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by black.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0AG7tDC067117 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:07:55 GMT (envelope-from lewiz@black.fajita.org) Received: (from lewiz@localhost) by black.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0AG7t6M067116 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:07:55 GMT (envelope-from lewiz) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:07:55 +0000 From: Lewis Thompson To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110160755.GA67057@black.fajita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: passwd(1) fro KerberosV (Heimdal) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:08:09 -0000 Hi, After successfully setting up KerberosV I am looking into using passwd(1) rather than kpasswd(1) to change principal passwords. In /etc/pam.d I have all instances of krb5 uncommented and have also added krb5 to passwd with no luck. With a valid ticket running passwd gives: passwd: Sorry, `passwd' can only change passwords for local or NIS users. /etc/nssswitch.conf has: group: ldap files passwd: files ldap which I suspect may be the problem (but I use LDAP for accounts). Is there any way to work around this so I can use passwd for changing KerberosV passwds? Thank you, -Lewis Thompson. -- I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. -| msn:lewiz@fajita.org | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 16:35:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7689A16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:35:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxout02.versatel.de (mxout02.versatel.de [212.7.146.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2410C43D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:35:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krylon@gmx.net) Received: from mx01.versatel.de (mx01.versatel.de [212.7.146.4]) by mxout02.versatel.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0AGZ4G2007806 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:35:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (i53874E3A.versanet.de [83.135.78.58]) by mx01.versatel.de (MOS 3.5.5-GR) with ESMTP id CLY10063 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:34:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E2AEDC.2090804@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:35:40 +0100 From: Benjamin Walkenhorst User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041231) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> <20050109132854.GD44181@gothmog.gr> <200501091730.21540.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501101251.14691.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <41E1F28C.6030708@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <41E1F28C.6030708@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:35:11 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Just "bin" works. But you'll _absolutely_ want to do > that. > <*slight* exaggeration>Why M$ assumes the only thing you'll ever want > to d/l via ftp is ASCII text is beyond me .... It's not the worst thing I've seen - when you want to transfer a text file from OS390/zOS, you are in deep water. =) zOS's native charset is EBCDIC. When you use ASCII transfer mode, all you get on an ASCII-based system is garbage. When you convert the file to ASCII on the mainframe and transfer it via ASCII, you get garbage. What you have to do is transfer the file in binary mode and convert it manually either before or afterwards. Kind regards, Benjamin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 16:41:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A0A16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:41:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2DE43D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:41:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:40:35 -0600 Message-ID: <41E2B01F.40702@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:41:03 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: artware References: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2005 16:40:36.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C3A1DA0:01C4F733] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:41:06 -0000 artware wrote: >Hello again, > >My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already >had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in >the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login >names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them >hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from >these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or >do I have to hack something together for each daemon? > >- ben > > /etc/hosts.allow? There were a lot of varying ideas in a thread titled "blacklisting failed ssh attempts on this list about Dec. 1st --- perhaps you can gain some wisdom there. I don't know that it's much to worry about, just a bot looking for lame passwords on Linux boxen. There are a number of possible responses, and the likelihood of a successful "attack" via this mechanism seems slim.... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 16:46:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAC616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:46:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mister.mcgoonet.com (mcgoonet.com [199.245.97.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1FA43D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:46:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jquinby@node.to) Received: from node.to (node.to [199.245.97.2]) by mister.mcgoonet.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0AGkbRq099696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:46:42 GMT (envelope-from jquinby@node.to) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:46:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Jay Quinby X-X-Sender: jquinby@mister.mcgoonet.com To: Timothy Luoma In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050110161931.A97453@mister.mcgoonet.com> References: <1E7FDB38-5E7A-11D9-AD10-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <0AAB74E3-5F2E-11D9-BE17-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <49600.24.11.146.21.1104942926.squirrel@24.11.146.21> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions cc: Charles Ulrich Subject: Re: m'gettying closer! (was Re: modem not responding to mgetty) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jquinby@node.to List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:46:46 -0000 Getting the modem to answer and the logs to start rolling is progress for sure. One thing to recall is that I wrote the doc for a FreeBSD 4.x, but I imagine this stuff is largely unchanged. I could be totally wrong on that, though - I don't do as much with BSD at my current gig. Commments inline below. On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Update on progress on project "ppp dialin". I am following the > instructions at > http://node.to/freebsd/how-tos/how-to-freebsd-pppserver.html. > > On the advice of Charles Ulrich on FBSD-Questions, I bought a serial > modem Creative Modem Blaster v.92 Model DE5621. I shut off the > machine, hooked up the modem (removed the old PCI modem) and rebooted. > > Here's the relevant configuration that I have (note: 5.3, standard > kernel) > > I am unsure about several things > - should be using cuaa0 or ttyd0 (I am using mgetty)? If I recall correctly, cuaa0 is the device name for Serial 0, or the equivalent of /dev/ttyS0 on Linux. One way to test this would be to fire up something like minicom, and try to connect to it. You ought to be able to send some of the basic AT commands and get some responses (good ones are ATDT 1234 and ATH, which will dial 1234 and hang up the line). Double-checking my own doc (since my memory is hazy, you want to set the following, assuming your modem is at serial 0: /etc/ttys: ttyd0 should point to mgetty, with a line similar to this, allowing for the correct path to your mgetty: ttyd0 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -s 115200" dialup on secure Your mgetty.conf should point to the correct port (cuaa0 for serial 0) port cuaa0 debug 4 fax-id 00 00 000000 speed 115200 direct NO blocking NO [...] > > - are the 'set ifaddr' lines right in ppp.conf? I'm using 192.168.1.x > and have selected unused IP addresses in that range > > $ fgrep mgetty /etc/ttys|fgrep -v '#' > ttyd0 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -s 115200" dialup on secure > > note: in ppp.conf, I'm not sure if I need ttyd0 or cuaa0. > Your ppp.conf is going to contain only references to cuaa0 - the one in the doc is extra long, owing to the serial card we stuck in there. We had 4 modems hanging off the machine. > (NOTE: FRED is not really the username) > > $ cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf > default: > set device /dev/cuaa0 > set debug log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command > set speed 115200 > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK > ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\TTIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > set timeout 120 > set ifaddr 192.168.1.1/0 192.168.1.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > add default HISADDR > > cuaa0: > set ifaddr 192.168.1.3 192.168.1.4-192.168.1.9 > enable passwdauth > allow users FRED ppp > accept dns > set dns 67.36.13.26 > enable proxy > > ttyd0: > set ifaddr 192.168.1.3 192.168.1.4-192.168.1.9 > enable passwdauth > allow users FRED ppp > accept dns > set dns 67.36.13.26 > enable proxy > > $ cat /usr/local/etc/mgetty+sendfax/mgetty.config > > port cuaa0 > debug 4 > fax-id 00 00 000000 > speed 115200 > direct NO > blocking NO > port-owner uucp > port-group uucp > port-mode 0660 > toggle-dtr YES > toggle-dtr-waittime 500 > data-only YES > fax-only NO > modem-type auto > init-chat "" AT OK > modem-check-time 3600 > rings 1 > answer-chat "" ATA CONNECT \c \r > answer-chat-timeout 30 > autobauding NO > ringback NO > ringback-time 30 > ignore-carrier false > issue-file /etc/issue > prompt-waittime 500 > login-prompt @!login: > login-time 240 > diskspace 1024 > notify faxadmin > fax-owner uucp > fax-group modem > fax-mode 0660 > > $ fgrep ppp /etc/passwd > ppp:*:1003:1003:ppp:/home/ppp:/etc/ppp/ppp-dialup > > $ ls -l /etc/ppp/ppp-dialup > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 258 Jan 7 19:56 /etc/ppp/ppp-dialup* > > (the content of the script is the same from the webpage, which says it > is the same as the FreeBSD handbook) > > XXXXXXX is the dialin number > > here is what I get on the *client end* when I try to dial my PPP server > Fri Jan 7 21:12:06 2005 : Dialing XXXXXXX > Fri Jan 7 21:12:06 2005 : CCLWrite : ATDTXXXXXXX\13 > Fri Jan 7 21:12:37 2005 : CCLMatched : +ER: > Fri Jan 7 21:12:37 2005 : CCLMatched : LAPM > Fri Jan 7 21:12:37 2005 : Modem Reliable Link Established. > Fri Jan 7 21:12:37 2005 : CCLMatched : +DR: > Fri Jan 7 21:12:37 2005 : CCLMatched : V42B\13 > Fri Jan 7 21:12:37 2005 : Modem Compression Established. > Fri Jan 7 21:12:37 2005 : CCLMatched : CONNECT > Fri Jan 7 21:12:37 2005 : CCLMatched : 26400 > Fri Jan 7 21:12:40 2005 : Serial connection established. > Fri Jan 7 21:12:40 2005 : using link 0 > Fri Jan 7 21:12:40 2005 : Using interface ppp0 > Fri Jan 7 21:12:40 2005 : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cu.modem > Fri Jan 7 21:12:41 2005 : sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 > ] > Fri Jan 7 21:12:41 2005 : Hangup (SIGHUP) > Fri Jan 7 21:12:41 2005 : Modem hangup > Fri Jan 7 21:12:41 2005 : Connection terminated. > Looks pretty good up until it hangs up. And no real errors. Not sure. Is /dev/cu.modem a symlink to /dev/cuaa0? > and here is what happens on the *server* end > > tail -50 /var/log/mgetty.ttyd0 > 01/07 21:12:35 yd0 mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.31-Jul24 > 01/07 21:12:35 yd0 check for lockfiles > 01/07 21:12:35 yd0 locking the line > 01/07 21:12:36 yd0 lowering DTR to reset Modem > 01/07 21:12:36 yd0 send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d] > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 waiting for ``OK'' ** found ** > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 send: ATS0=0Q0&D3&C1[0d] > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 waiting for ``OK'' ** found ** > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 mdm_send: 'ATI' > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 Generic Rockwell modem (56000) > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 mdm_send: 'ATI3' > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 mdm_send: 'ATI4' > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 additional info: 'a007040284C6002F' > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 modem quirks: 0004 > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=2' -> OK > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 mdm_send: 'AT+FCLASS=0' -> OK > 01/07 21:12:37 yd0 mdm_send: 'AT+FAA=1;+FCR=1' -> OK > 01/07 21:12:38 yd0 mdm_send: 'AT+FBOR=0' -> OK > 01/07 21:12:38 yd0 mdm_send: 'AT+FLID="49 115 xxxxxxxx"' -> OK > 01/07 21:12:38 yd0 mdm_send: 'AT+FDCC=1,5,0,2,0,0,0,0' -> OK > 01/07 21:12:38 yd0 waiting... > > [as far as I know, everything before this is just mgetty setting up, > and the rest is what happens when a call comes in] > Looks good so far. > 01/07 21:16:04 yd0 wfr: waiting for ``RING'' > 01/07 21:16:04 yd0 send: ATA[0d] > 01/07 21:16:04 yd0 waiting for ``CONNECT'' ** found ** > 01/07 21:16:30 yd0 send: > 01/07 21:16:30 yd0 waiting for ``_'' ** found ** > 01/07 21:16:34 ##### data dev=ttyd0, pid=966, caller='none', > conn='115200', name='', cmd='/etc/ppp/ppp-pap-dialup', user='/AutoPPP/' > > [at that point mgetty just resets] > I'm a little stumped. What happens if you run the ppp-login script by itself? It ought to start generating the line-noise-garbage on stdout. What's in /etc/ppp/ppp-pap-dialup? That script is running right before things hose up. > So it's been a long day, and I've banged my head against this for a > couple hours. Going to eat. Any ideas will be appreciated. > Been there. I think you're really close to getting this up and running (if you haven't already by the time you get this. -- jquinby@node.to http://packet.node.to Monday of the First Week of Ordinary Time From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 16:54:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0A416A523; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:54:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9871E43D3F; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:54:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 0C91B4718CF; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:59:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 53CBA3866E6; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:54:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Mon Jan 10 17:54:02 2005 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4898E38665C; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:54:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from tx2.Go2France.com [24.227.147.226] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A0CE55050066; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:43:58 +0100 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110103857.045a9a68@81.255.84.73> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@81.255.84.73 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:53:39 -0600 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: buildup of Windows time_wait talking to fbsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:54:03 -0000 We have a windows mailserver that relays its outbound to a fbsd gateway. We changed to a different fbsd gateway running 4.10. Windows then began having trouble sending to 4.10. Windows "netstat -an" shows dozens of lines like this: source IP desitination IP ====================================================================== TCP 10.1.16.3:1403 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1407 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1415 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1419 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1435 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1462 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1470 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1473 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1478 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1493 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1504 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1507 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1508 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1521 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1526 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1546 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1550 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1568 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1571 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1589 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1592 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1616 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1620 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1629 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1644 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1647 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT TCP 10.1.16.3:1654 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT Eventually, the windows SMTP logs line like "cannot connect to remote IP" or "address already in use" because no local tcp/ip sockets are available, we think. The new gateway/fbsd 4.10 "sockstat -4" shows no corresponding tcp connections when the Windows server is showing as above. On the fbsd 4.10 machines, smtp logs, syslog, and dmesg show no errors. We switch the windows box to smtp gateway towards the old box/fbsd 4.7, all is cool. Suggestions with how to proceed debugging, please. I'm trying to get the dmesg.boot for the 4.7 and 4.10 boxes now, sorry. Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 16:59:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3A416A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:59:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6631343D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so21211rne for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:59:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=St2E0eI8KshTCLs8ItkEHX3dm4sKDsXNXSM2NAksIzcVRJJoJ5Qr609yGuCXfmnBqgc6O5edfdLRkdvZhF0vAHwh5Xk6KIsbpUebMfIrVUvGs7FZhHHkqbTNY/PMOdNel9eEjoGQaW8WrNjTFrJpItrMVVrcfsIBIDJ0iUo4TV8= Received: by 10.38.90.66 with SMTP id n66mr69124rnb; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.22.74 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:59:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:59:18 -0500 From: Danny To: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110103857.045a9a68@81.255.84.73> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110103857.045a9a68@81.255.84.73> cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildup of Windows time_wait talking to fbsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:59:20 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:53:39 -0600, Len Conrad wrote: > > We have a windows mailserver that relays its outbound to a fbsd > gateway. We changed to a different fbsd gateway running 4.10. Windows then > began having trouble sending to 4.10. Windows "netstat -an" shows dozens > of lines like this: > > source IP desitination IP > ====================================================================== > TCP 10.1.16.3:1403 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1407 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1415 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1419 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1435 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1462 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1470 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1473 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1478 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1493 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1504 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1507 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1508 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1521 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1526 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1546 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1550 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1568 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1571 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1589 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1592 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1616 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1620 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1629 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1644 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1647 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1654 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > > Eventually, the windows SMTP logs line like "cannot connect to remote IP" > or "address already in use" because no local tcp/ip sockets are available, > we think. > > The new gateway/fbsd 4.10 "sockstat -4" shows no corresponding tcp > connections when the Windows server is showing as above. On the fbsd 4.10 > machines, smtp logs, syslog, and dmesg show no errors. > > We switch the windows box to smtp gateway towards the old box/fbsd 4.7, all > is cool. > > Suggestions with how to proceed debugging, please. > > I'm trying to get the dmesg.boot for the 4.7 and 4.10 boxes now, sorry. What shows up when you run a network sniffer on either machines? ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:12:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D215216A4CE; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:12:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.foolishgames.com (mail.foolishgames.com [216.55.178.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9430243D1D; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:12:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laffer1@mail.foolishgames.com) Received: from mail.foolishgames.com (localhost.dedicated.abac.net [127.0.0.1])j0AIFnL5013271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laffer1@mail.foolishgames.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.foolishgames.com: Host localhost.dedicated.abac.net [127.0.0.1] claimed to be mail.foolishgames.com Received: from localhost (laffer1@localhost)j0AIFnTX013268; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laffer1@mail.foolishgames.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:15:49 -0800 (PST) From: laffer1 To: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110103857.045a9a68@81.255.84.73> Message-ID: <20050110101200.W13168@mail.foolishgames.com> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110103857.045a9a68@81.255.84.73> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildup of Windows time_wait talking to fbsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:12:03 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Len Conrad wrote: > > We have a windows mailserver that relays its outbound to a fbsd gateway. We > changed to a different fbsd gateway running 4.10. Windows then began having > trouble sending to 4.10. Windows "netstat -an" shows dozens of lines like > this: > > source IP desitination IP > ====================================================================== > TCP 10.1.16.3:1403 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1407 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1415 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1419 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1435 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1462 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1470 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1473 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1478 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1493 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1504 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1507 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1508 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1521 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1526 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1546 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1550 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1568 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1571 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1589 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1592 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1616 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1620 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1629 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1644 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1647 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > TCP 10.1.16.3:1654 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT > > Eventually, the windows SMTP logs line like "cannot connect to remote IP" or > "address already in use" because no local tcp/ip sockets are available, we > think. > > The new gateway/fbsd 4.10 "sockstat -4" shows no corresponding tcp > connections when the Windows server is showing as above. On the fbsd 4.10 > machines, smtp logs, syslog, and dmesg show no errors. > > We switch the windows box to smtp gateway towards the old box/fbsd 4.7, all > is cool. > > Suggestions with how to proceed debugging, please. > > I'm trying to get the dmesg.boot for the 4.7 and 4.10 boxes now, sorry. > > Len Just off the top of my head... You mentioned the freebsd machine is the gateway. Do you have a firewall on the host blocking connections from the windows machine? Do you have a different kernel configuration between 4.7 and 4.10? i.e. do you have something like ipdivert, etc in the kernel on one box and not the other? Can the windows machine ping the ip 192.168.200.59 as its a different class C? Luke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:12:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D6B16A4F1 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8A343D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:12:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0AHBu12049436 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:11:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E2B74A.20302@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:11:38 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Bennett References: <200501100833.j0A8XWSd005436@mp.cs.niu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200501100833.j0A8XWSd005436@mp.cs.niu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:12:09 -0000 Scott Bennett wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:01:26 -0600 David Kelly > wrote: [ ... ] > That may be true. I don't really know because I haven't looked at > Darwin source. However, essentially everything in NextStep above the > kernel that was not part of the OOPS was taken directly from 4.3BSD. ...or from the FSF, or from Sun, or from CMU, or from MIT, or from Adobe, depending. Almost all of the compiler toolchain was GNU, Sun provided minor things like NFS, NIS, and RPC, CMU provided Mach itself, and together with MIT provided AFS and X11, Adobe provided PostScript, fonts & font management, and DPS. >>BSD tradition Apple freely picked from here and there, whatever they >>thought best, and made what can only be said to be their own. > > Keep in mind that Mach 2.x *was* a heavily modified 4.3BSD kernel. > Mach 3.x and later is not. The NeXT Mach 2.5 kernel was not a modified BSD kernel. It was a monolithic kernel which supported dynamic loading of kernel objects, Mach messaging and exception handling (rather than BSD signals, which were emulated for BSD compatibility purposes), SMP & NUMA aSMP, and an integrated task/thread paradigm unrelated to normal BSD process semantics, etc. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4859316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:15:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4055E43D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:15:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Jan 2005 17:15:29 -0000 Received: from pD9E58229.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO localhost) (217.229.130.41) by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 18:15:29 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5114400 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:19:33 +0100 From: Mario Hoerich To: Romil Shah Message-ID: <20050110171933.GA1230@Pandora.MHoerich.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: University of Paderborn X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Freebsd Subject: Re: What is the task of pmap_enter ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:15:33 -0000 # Romil Shah: > I am working on 2200S RAID controller and using aac driver from RELEGN4 , > aac_disk.c in the driver uses pmap_enter for coping the virtual pages to > some physical location. Not really copying (afaict) but rather assigning a physical address to a virtual one. > In FreeBSD 4.10 pmap_kenter_temporary is used which > return the address which is passed to the controller for dumping on kernel > panic where as this is not happening with pmap_enter , can any one tell me > the difference between pmap_enter and pmap_kenter_temporary (both this > file are present in i386/pmap.c. Caveat emptor: I'm no kernel hacker and thus not overly familiar with the internal workings. So buy my explanation at your own risk.;) pmap_kenter_temporary() *temporarily* maps a physical address to a virtual one, which is then returned. No change in the page table, no state-keeping whatsoever. In contrast, pmap_enter() creates persistent mappings (or alters existing ones) and changes the page table of the process to include them. That's why it doesn't need to return an address. Quoting the daemon book [McKusick et al,1999]: | On the HP300, pmap_enter() takes the following actions: | | 1. If no page-table exists for the process, a 4-MByte range is | allocated in the kernel's address space to map the process's | address space. | | 2. If the process has no segment table of its own[...], a private | one is allocated | | 3. If a physical page has not yet been allocated to the process | page-table at the location required for the new mapping, that is | done now. Kernel page-table pages are acquired from the reserved | pool allocated at bootstrap time.[...]For either kernel or user | pagetable pages, the kernel mapping for the new page is flagged | as being a pagetable page, and the physical address of the page | is recorded in the segment table. Afterwards, once existance of the entered mapping is ensured, it may change either the protection or wiring attributes (iff the exact same mapping already exists) or replace an older mapping referencing the same virtual address (but a different physical one). In the latter case, it creates a pv_table entry (iff physical address is in range of the respective pmap module) and creates a page-table entry. pmap_entry() has probably changed a little since 4.4BSD, but I think the above steps have pretty much stayed the same (modulo some architectural necessities). HTH, Mario [McKusick et al, 1999]: McKusick, Bostic, Karels, Quarterman "The design and implementation of the 4.4BSD operating system", Addison Wesley, ISBN 0-201-54979-4 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:19:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B5E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:19:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF21E43D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:19:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0AHJ0wW054824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:19:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E2B8F2.3040600@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:18:42 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBsdBeni References: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> <200501090656.09705.james@idea-anvil.net> <200501091505.33003.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200501091505.33003.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:19:18 -0000 FreeBsdBeni wrote: [ ... ] > I can indeed access the Linksys modem directly and find out the address. But I > was hoping for a more direct or easier way to do it, if possible... Because you are using a device which performs NAT, you have to query that device to find out the real IP; there is no way on a machine within the private NAT'ed subnet to get external information without asking externally. However, if you connect your machine directly to the aDSL modem rather than using a firewall/router, you could run ifconfig on your machine and see the real IP. You'd probably have to configure pppoe which can be a pain, and your typical Linksys broadband router already does a good job of handling that. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:19:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCCB16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:19:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.rospa.ca [24.72.10.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53D743D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:19:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 5A60F6AB; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:19:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:19:26 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110171926.GF96419@seekingfire.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:19:27 -0000 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 01:44:57PM -0000, Scott Bye wrote: > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and > listening for connections. > > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and > nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. I'm encountering the same thing: $ telnet athena 110 Trying 192.168.23.3... Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. $ telnet athena 143 Trying 192.168.23.3... Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. I've just started digging into it, I'll post again if I run across anything interesting. -T -- If you scramble about in search of inner peace, you will lose your inner peace. Lao-Tzu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:22:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB92F16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:22:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C27643D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:22:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C3C8269262 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:22:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:23:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:23:04 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:22:57 -0000 On 01/10/05 12:20 AM, artware sat at the `puter and typed: > Hello again, > > My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already > had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in > the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login > names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them > hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from > these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or > do I have to hack something together for each daemon? I get this all the time too. I'm sure anyone with a *nix system on the net does. The source is a script, often run on a system that has already been compromised. Probably an attempt to crack hosting systems that provide shell accounts to users - often they don't use very good passwords. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that there was an old Linux vulnerability that they were attempting to exploit too. The best defense is a good firewall, good passwords, and restriction of user ids that may login remotely. Check /etc/login.access. You can define subnets from which groups of users are allowed to login, prohibit remote login, etc. I have only one account that can login remotely, and I use a fairly secure password for it - meaning not even remotely a dictionary word, even with the vowel transforms. A practice one of my former co-workers liked was to pick a song and pull letters out; take Fleetwood Mac: "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow". You could get "DSTAT", turn that into something else, like "dSt4T". Pretty short, but definitely not a dictionary word. You could even take more letters from the next line" "Don't Stop, It'll Soon Be Here" and get "dSt4TDs1SbH", or any number of derivations. If you forget the actual password, your song is an excellent hint. You get the idea. You can take this idea and apply it in a number of ways to a number of subjects, concepts, etc. I'm sure after reading this, someone else will post another favorite password generation method, including the numerous ports available - I'd like to see one that checks the security of a password rather than just generating them. As for the firewall and the originating IP, I follow a plain process: Check the whois record of the offending IP If the IP is in Asia, Russia, or Nigeria, I drop the CIDR spec into my firewall table and never hear from anyone on the network again. The CIDER spec is part of the whois record If the IP is in Western Europe or North America, I notify the abuse address to inform them they either have a cracker or a cracked system. This practice has reduced these attempts considerably. Each time I see another, I add it to the blocked table (I use pf, not ipfw). Many systems will not have the CIDR blocking option available, but I have no expectation of legitimate traffic from areas that I do block. If you have paying customers, you have to just deal with it and try to lock things down in other ways. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. -- Wm. Shakespeare, "Henry VI", Part IV From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:26:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B8C16A4CE; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:26:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D1043D2F; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:26:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id DB5E64718C1; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:31:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3320F3866FB; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:26:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Mon Jan 10 18:26:23 2005 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240D138665C; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:26:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from tx2.Go2France.com [24.227.147.226] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A86355FB0066; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:16:19 +0100 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110112254.0486dec0@81.255.84.73> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@81.255.84.73 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:26:16 -0600 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <20050110101200.W13168@mail.foolishgames.com> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110103857.045a9a68@81.255.84.73> <20050110101200.W13168@mail.foolishgames.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: buildup of Windows time_wait talking to fbsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:26:21 -0000 > >Just off the top of my head... > >You mentioned the freebsd machine is the gateway. Do you have a firewall >on the host blocking connections from the windows machine? a forgotten detail is that the windows machine sends just fine to the 4.10 gateway for a few minutes, but the time_wait inevitably builds up, so smtp access from windows to either gateway is ok. > Do you have a different kernel configuration between 4.7 and 4.10? both GENERIC > i.e. do you have something like ipdivert, etc in the kernel on one box > and not the other? Can the windows machine ping the ip 192.168.200.59 as > its a different class C? sure, basic connectivity is ok. Len _____________________________________________________________________ http://IMGate.MEIway.com : free anti-spam gateway, runs on 1000's of sites From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:36:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE9716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:36:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC0643D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:36:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B736D6928B for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:36:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:36:39 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110173638.GB7456@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E261E9.5040800@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E261E9.5040800@online.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: nvidia driver problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:36:31 -0000 On 01/10/05 12:07 PM, craig sat at the `puter and typed: > hi all, > > i am having a problem getting the nvidia-provided freebsd drivers to > work correctly. > specifically, although the bsd-provided nv drivers work (albeit without > any accel), when i switch to the nvidia-provided nvidia drivers, xorg > loads into 8bit colour mode - which looks terrible! > > looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesnt provide any clues (to me, at > least!). there are no terrible errors or dire warnings that seem related. > (find attached) > > and, as best as i can tell, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seems just fine. > (also find attached) > > what else would be useful to tell... > i have an Intel 2.4Ghz on a Gigabyte GT motherboard, with 1GB ram. > the card is an nVidia GeForce4Ti with 128MB > > also, i have removed agp from my kernel. > and i have also attached sysctl -a hw.nvidia output > > any help would be greatly appreciated! > > much ta, A few things: > (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/". > Entry deleted from font path. > (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"). > (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/". > Entry deleted from font path. > (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"). These are worth fixing, though minor - the entries tell you how. > (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kBytes > (II) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s): CRT-1, DFP-0 > (WW) NVIDIA(0): Multiple displays connected, but only one display allowed; > (WW) NVIDIA(0): using first display > (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 8 bpp: 350 MHz > (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 16 bpp: 350 MHz > (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 32 bpp: 350 MHz You have 2 monitors? If so, I recommend the TwinView config. It's tricky, but works well. > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "SWcursor" # [] > #Option "HWcursor" # [] > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > #Option "ShadowFB" # [] > #Option "UseFBDev" # [] > #Option "Rotate" # [] > #Option "VideoKey" # > #Option "FlatPanel" # [] > #Option "FPDither" # [] > #Option "CrtcNumber" # > > # Option "NoLogo" "True" > # Option "RenderAccel" "True" You might want to uncomment RenderAccel - try it both ways once you get your color depth right. > # Option "HWCursor" "1" > # Option "CursorShadow" "True" > > Option "NvAGP" "1" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > BoardName "NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1600x1200" > EndSubSection > EndSection As mentioned by the other posters, put the default depth speck in your screen section. > hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x > hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported > hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported > hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000e1b:0x1f004302 > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x > hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled > hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X > hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.28.20.05.00 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP Looks like you've got the NVidia AGP working, can I ask whether you compiled it with Linux support? Did you get it from the ports or as a package from NVidia? And I assume you have Xorg installed from the ports? The AGP feature has been an issue for several people, and it's been tricky nailing down the tipping point that will make it work for some and not others. I've got it working (very nicely with two monitors) and it's bugging me that another person with the same card and FreeBSD version can't get it working. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ We have a equal opportunity Calculus class -- it's fully integrated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D45316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:40:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.rospa.ca [24.72.10.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9CA43D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:40:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id C3A803C1; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:40:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:40:55 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110174055.GH96419@seekingfire.com> References: <20050110171926.GF96419@seekingfire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050110171926.GF96419@seekingfire.com> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:40:56 -0000 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:19:26AM -0600, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 01:44:57PM -0000, Scott Bye wrote: > > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and > > listening for connections. > > > > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and > > nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. > > I'm encountering the same thing: > > $ telnet athena 110 > Trying 192.168.23.3... > Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). > Escape character is '^]'. > Connection closed by foreign host. > > $ telnet athena 143 > Trying 192.168.23.3... > Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). > Escape character is '^]'. > Connection closed by foreign host. > > I've just started digging into it, I'll post again if I run across > anything interesting. In my case, it looks like /usr/local/etc/rc.d/courier-authdaemond.sh actually wants to see courier_authdaemond_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf now. Will wonders never cease :-) -T -- "There is no such thing as 'social gambling.' Either you are there to cut the other bloke's heart out and eat it -- or you're a sucker. If you don't like this choice -- don't gamble." -- Robert Heinlein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:44:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA4716A4CE; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:44:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B215843D3F; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:44:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0AHiifg026312; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:44:45 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j0AHiiNg001331; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:44:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j0AHiiAq001330; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:44:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:44:44 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Len Conrad Message-ID: <20050110174444.GA1294@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110103857.045a9a68@81.255.84.73> <20050110101200.W13168@mail.foolishgames.com> <6.1.1.1.2.20050110112254.0486dec0@81.255.84.73> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110112254.0486dec0@81.255.84.73> cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildup of Windows time_wait talking to fbsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:44:48 -0000 On 2005-01-10 11:26, Len Conrad wrote: >> Just off the top of my head... >> >> You mentioned the freebsd machine is the gateway. Do you have a >> firewall on the host blocking connections from the windows machine? > > a forgotten detail is that the windows machine sends just fine to > the 4.10 gateway for a few minutes, but the time_wait inevitably > builds up, so smtp access from windows to either gateway is ok. > >> Do you have a different kernel configuration between 4.7 and 4.10? > > both GENERIC > >> i.e. do you have something like ipdivert, etc in the kernel on one >> box and not the other? Can the windows machine ping the ip >> 192.168.200.59 as its a different class C? > > sure, basic connectivity is ok. Are you using a firewall? If yes, is it stateful? Can we see the ruleset? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:45:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7517D16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:45:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB8443D4C for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:45:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CE1296928A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:45:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:45:51 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110174550.GC7456@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050110171926.GF96419@seekingfire.com> <20050110174055.GH96419@seekingfire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050110174055.GH96419@seekingfire.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:45:43 -0000 On 01/10/05 11:40 AM, Tillman Hodgson sat at the `puter and typed: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:19:26AM -0600, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 01:44:57PM -0000, Scott Bye wrote: > > > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and > > > listening for connections. > > > > > > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and > > > nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. > > > > I'm encountering the same thing: > > > > $ telnet athena 110 > > Trying 192.168.23.3... > > Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). > > Escape character is '^]'. > > Connection closed by foreign host. > > > > $ telnet athena 143 > > Trying 192.168.23.3... > > Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). > > Escape character is '^]'. > > Connection closed by foreign host. > > > > I've just started digging into it, I'll post again if I run across > > anything interesting. > > In my case, it looks like /usr/local/etc/rc.d/courier-authdaemond.sh > actually wants to see courier_authdaemond_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf > now. Will wonders never cease :-) Good to know. I'm running 3.x, and hadn't paid enough attention to know that 4.x was even out. Other than this hangup, what are your feelings about 4.x? Thanks Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Death. Destruction. Disease. Horror. That's what war is all about. That's what makes it a thing to be avoided. -- Kirk, "A Taste of Armageddon", stardate 3193.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 17:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3567316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:56:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB7543D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:56:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0AHtuN42610; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:55:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:55:56 -0600 From: John To: "Daniel S. Haischt" Message-ID: <20050110115556.B42536@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050109152313.A37770@starfire.mn.org> <41E1AA84.809@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <41E1AA84.809@daniel.stefan.haischt.name>; from me@stefan.haischt.name on Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 11:04:52PM +0100 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost my X11 config - what was the old tool to build it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:56:06 -0000 On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 11:04:52PM +0100, Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > Did you read: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > AWESOME! My bad - I assumed that the procedure that /stand/sysinstall lead me through would be what was documented in the handbook - boy, was I wrong! The clear, well-documented, relative short procedure in the handbook got me up and running very quickly. My entire kde environment from 4.9-STABLE was recovered. Well, almost. Now I just have to figure out why the xdm login is running in mono mode (though it switches to full color after I log in), and how I resolve the apparent conflicts between xorg and XFree86 for OpenOffice.org, which I dearly want to have back up and running. > John schrieb: > > Before Win98 destroyed my nice FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE installation on > > my Compaq Armada M700 laptop, I had a really good X configuration > > which, if I remember correctly, was generated almost entirely > > automatically somehow. (No, I didn't have a backup of that config > > file, and I've already kick myself many times.) Anyway, I am trying > > to get this back up and running with XFree86 4.3.0 and FreeBSD > > 5.2.1. > > > > I sure can't get anything that's useful now from the X86Config > > script - all it does is ask me questions that I don't really know > > the answer to - partly because it is a Laptop, and I can't just > > easily see what the built-in adapter is. Whatever configuration > > utility that I ran before, I sure can't find it now - it seemed > > to make VERY good recommendations, and I could sure use some! > > > > I've checked the XFree86 web site, and didn't find much useful there. > > > > I've done global web searches for XFree86 and this laptop, but > > they must be for versions that are too old, because they don't > > work for me, complaining of Drivers that don't exist, and so forth. > > > > I'd be tempted to just reload 4.9-RELEASE and re-do it from there, > > but I'm afraid I may run into a similar problem - where the config > > file there, even if I get it, won't work with the new stuff. > > > > Any pointers will be appreciated. > > -- > Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards > Daniel S. Haischt > > Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: > $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 18:04:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FC616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:04:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1145943D39 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 62C31BE8BF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11102 invoked by uid 4199); 10 Jan 2005 18:04:04 -0000 Date: 10 Jan 2005 18:04:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20050110180404.11101.qmail@rahul.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> References: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:04:42 -0000 Louis LeBlanc writes: > > A practice one of my former co-workers liked was to pick a song and pull > letters out; take Fleetwood Mac: "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow". > You could get "DSTAT", turn that into something else, like "dSt4T". > Pretty short, but definitely not a dictionary word. You could even take > more letters from the next line" "Don't Stop, It'll Soon Be Here" and get > "dSt4TDs1SbH", or any number of derivations. If you forget the actual > password, your song is an excellent hint. > I think that comes from RFC1244, (Site Security Handbook,) which is a pretty good security SOP for *_general_* 'Net users. The stuff 1244 suggests is not perfect, by any means, but is a relatively good compromise between security, usability, and operational costs. For example, to keep sysadmin phone calls on forgotten passwds to a minimum, 1244 suggests the words in a user's favorite song, ('cause folk's minds remember the words,) to seven letters-maybe with capitalization. For example, if the "Star Spangled Banner" is the 'fav, then a passwd would be "oH#saY#caN#". If logins must be updated periodically, then the user's next passwd would be, "yoU#See", and so on. Its certainly not perfect[1], but its cheap to administer, easy to use, etc., and realatively hard to crack by algorithmic means-at least without filling up the log files, giving the sysadm a "heads up" to type something beginning with "block ..." 1244 has a lot of cute little security things like that. John [1] Yea, I've tried a passwd policy of denied vowel-consonant relationships, (e.g., words.) Not only did I have a lot of phone calls on forgotten passwds, I gained credentials as an English teacher. -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 18:06:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A9E16A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:06:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D05543D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:06:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B154045092 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:06:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.rulez.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (daemon.rulez.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16457-02 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:06:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from danger.mcrn.sk (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982E54508C for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:06:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:06:09 +0100 From: DanGer X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <449638955.20050110190609@rulez.sk> To: Louis LeBlanc In-Reply-To: <20050110174550.GC7456@keyslapper.org> References: <20050110171926.GF96419@seekingfire.com> <20050110174550.GC7456@keyslapper.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at daemon.rulez.sk Subject: Re[2]: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DanGer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:06:52 -0000 Hi Louis, Monday, January 10, 2005, 6:45:51 PM, you wrote the following: > On 01/10/05 11:40 AM, Tillman Hodgson sat at the `puter and typed: >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:19:26AM -0600, Tillman Hodgson wrote: >> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 01:44:57PM -0000, Scott Bye wrote: >> > > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and >> > > listening for connections. >> > > >> > > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and >> > > nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. >> > >> > I'm encountering the same thing: >> > >> > $ telnet athena 110 >> > Trying 192.168.23.3... >> > Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). >> > Escape character is '^]'. >> > Connection closed by foreign host. >> > >> > $ telnet athena 143 >> > Trying 192.168.23.3... >> > Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). >> > Escape character is '^]'. >> > Connection closed by foreign host. >> > >> > I've just started digging into it, I'll post again if I run across >> > anything interesting. >> >> In my case, it looks like >> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/courier-authdaemond.sh >> actually wants to see courier_authdaemond_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf >> now. Will wonders never cease :-) > Good to know. > I'm running 3.x, and hadn't paid enough attention to know that 4.x was > even out. Other than this hangup, what are your feelings about 4.x? > Thanks > Lou i didn't noticed any changes, maybe it is little bit faster... -- Best Regards, +----------==/\/\==----------+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer | \\\'',) The | DanGer@IRCnet ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^ Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | .\._/_) To +----------==\/\/==----------+ Serve [ "I like to skate on the other side of the ice." -- Wright ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 18:07:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BB016A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:07:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC66C43D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:07:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5C64509A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:07:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.rulez.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (daemon.rulez.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60037-08 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:06:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from danger.mcrn.sk (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E14E45096 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:06:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:06:28 +0100 From: DanGer X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1024171188.20050110190628@rulez.sk> To: questions@freebsd.org Resent-From: DanGer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-Id: <20050110180658.2E14E45096@mail.rulez.sk> Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:06:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at daemon.rulez.sk Subject: Re[2]: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DanGer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:07:04 -0000 Hi Louis, Monday, January 10, 2005, 6:45:51 PM, you wrote the following: > On 01/10/05 11:40 AM, Tillman Hodgson sat at the `puter and typed: >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:19:26AM -0600, Tillman Hodgson wrote: >> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 01:44:57PM -0000, Scott Bye wrote: >> > > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and >> > > listening for connections. >> > > >> > > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and >> > > nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. >> > >> > I'm encountering the same thing: >> > >> > $ telnet athena 110 >> > Trying 192.168.23.3... >> > Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). >> > Escape character is '^]'. >> > Connection closed by foreign host. >> > >> > $ telnet athena 143 >> > Trying 192.168.23.3... >> > Connected to athena.seekingfire.prv (192.168.23.3). >> > Escape character is '^]'. >> > Connection closed by foreign host. >> > >> > I've just started digging into it, I'll post again if I run across >> > anything interesting. >> >> In my case, it looks like >> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/courier-authdaemond.sh >> actually wants to see courier_authdaemond_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf >> now. Will wonders never cease :-) > Good to know. > I'm running 3.x, and hadn't paid enough attention to know that 4.x was > even out. Other than this hangup, what are your feelings about 4.x? > Thanks > Lou i didn't noticed any changes, maybe it is little bit faster... -- Best Regards, +----------==/\/\==----------+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer | \\\'',) The | DanGer@IRCnet ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^ Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | .\._/_) To +----------==\/\/==----------+ Serve [ "I like to skate on the other side of the ice." -- Wright ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 18:29:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FBF16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:29:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iqara.net (sendmail.iqara.net [203.187.192.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF2D43D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:29:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 17148 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 18:13:07 -0000 Received: from 30-125-109-203.cable-client.iqara.net (HELO dhumketu.homeunix.net) ([203.109.125.30]) (envelope-sender ) by iqara.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jan 2005 18:13:07 -0000 Received: by dhumketu.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD218664B; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:58:56 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:58:56 +0530 From: Shantanoo To: "K.T." Message-ID: <20050110182856.GA1691@dhumketu.homeunix.net> Mail-Followup-To: "K.T." , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41DD6A64.7030002@cbox.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41DD6A64.7030002@cbox.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Hmmm... I dunno X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386 X-UPTIME: 11:49PM up 2:56, 0 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.09, 0.07 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Free BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:29:01 -0000 +++ K.T. [freebsd] [06-01-05 17:42 +0100]: | | I think, BSD is one with lot of unusable, needless systems. | You never get over Windows or Linux. | FreeBSD is stupid system, which only nobody will use. :-( | | ------------------------------ *clap* *clap* Now sit in the corner and observe the posts on the list. period. Shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 18:29:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0A216A4DE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:29:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B59443D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:29:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B3DED6925D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:29:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:29:15 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110182913.GD7456@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> <20050110180404.11101.qmail@rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050110180404.11101.qmail@rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:29:07 -0000 On 01/10/05 06:04 PM, John Conover sat at the `puter and typed: > Louis LeBlanc writes: > > > > A practice one of my former co-workers liked was to pick a song and pull > > letters out; take Fleetwood Mac: "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow". > > You could get "DSTAT", turn that into something else, like "dSt4T". > > Pretty short, but definitely not a dictionary word. You could even take > > more letters from the next line" "Don't Stop, It'll Soon Be Here" and get > > "dSt4TDs1SbH", or any number of derivations. If you forget the actual > > password, your song is an excellent hint. > > > > I think that comes from RFC1244, (Site Security Handbook,) which is a > pretty good security SOP for *_general_* 'Net users. > > The stuff 1244 suggests is not perfect, by any means, but is a > relatively good compromise between security, usability, and > operational costs. > > For example, to keep sysadmin phone calls on forgotten passwds to a > minimum, 1244 suggests the words in a user's favorite song, ('cause > folk's minds remember the words,) to seven letters-maybe with > capitalization. For example, if the "Star Spangled Banner" is the > 'fav, then a passwd would be "oH#saY#caN#". > > If logins must be updated periodically, then the user's next passwd > would be, "yoU#See", and so on. > > Its certainly not perfect[1], but its cheap to administer, easy to > use, etc., and realatively hard to crack by algorithmic means-at least > without filling up the log files, giving the sysadm a "heads up" to > type something beginning with "block ..." > > 1244 has a lot of cute little security things like that. > > John > > [1] Yea, I've tried a passwd policy of denied vowel-consonant > relationships, (e.g., words.) Not only did I have a lot of phone calls > on forgotten passwds, I gained credentials as an English teacher. LOL. I understand completely. BTW, a quick search yielded an update to 1244: 2196, which can be found here: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2196.html Thanks. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ The following statement is not true. The previous statement is true. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 19:16:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EEC16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:16:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iqara.net (sendmail.iqara.net [203.187.192.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F85443D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:16:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 2183 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 19:00:46 -0000 Received: from 30-125-109-203.cable-client.iqara.net (HELO dhumketu.homeunix.net) ([203.109.125.30]) (envelope-sender ) by iqara.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jan 2005 19:00:46 -0000 Received: by dhumketu.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2DBA7664B; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:11:34 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:11:33 +0530 From: Shantanoo Mahajan To: Michael Madden Message-ID: <20050110184133.GA1786@dhumketu.homeunix.net> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Madden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41DDDB85.2030000@cmsrtp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41DDDB85.2030000@cmsrtp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Hmmm... I dunno X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386 X-UPTIME: 12:00AM up 3:08, 0 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.02, 0.01 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Router setup with FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:16:40 -0000 +++ Michael Madden [freebsd] [06-01-05 18:44 -0600]: | Does anyone have documentation and/or a | tutorial for setting a router with FreeBSD | 5.3? I want to share a broadband connection | with 5-10 Windows/Linux/FreeBSD boxes. I | assume I'll need to setup the two interfaces, | gatewaying, and some type of firewall... | | Thanks, | Mike pf is available on FreeBSD 5.3 check out /usr/share/examples/pf/ Regards, Shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 19:16:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCF116A4E9 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:16:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2038043D4C for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:16:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B00D69288; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:16:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:16:52 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: dave Message-ID: <20050110191652.GE7456@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: dave , FreeBSD Questions References: <001701c4f743$153e9930$0400a8c0@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <001701c4f743$153e9930$0400a8c0@satellite> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: firewall setup and whois for blacklisting IP's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:16:46 -0000 On 01/10/05 01:34 PM, dave sat at the `puter and typed: > Hello, > For your setup of blacklisting IP's do you use any cron scripts for > procedure automation? > I'm assuming for your firewall block table that you store that in a > separate file? Can you send that file my way? I've tried to come up with a > perl script to get whois information out of a maillog, i'm gettin ssh > atempts that corespond to mail relaying atempts so i thought that would be > best, however there seems to be difference in the way certain servers > return whois information, do you have any experience with this? > When you email an abuse contact approximately what percentage of them > write you back? I've emailed several providers comcast mostly in the US, but > i have not heard anything back from the person. Is there some sort of > standard email template you follow? > Thanks. > Dave. Good questions. I don't use any automation, I just look at the auth logs on a regular basis. The reason is that I don't want to block every network that attempts my system. I haven't found any of the security settings to include illegal user attempts in the security mailing - though I'd think that would be there, and on by default. If it were there, I'd use that as a more reliable alert. Also, I don't typically do anything at all with Amsterdam IPs, mostly because I haven't decided whether there's anything legitimate to be expected. I know there's a lot of porn sites, and this could easily be a starting point for a lot of these attempts, but it's a fairly open society, and I don't know whether the ISPs would really care about them. They may well care in those that I do block, but my experience has shown that they typically won't make much effort. Giving the benefit of the doubt, it's probably more of a language barrier than a lack of interest. When I used ipfw, I did keep the blocked lists in a separate file, /etc/rc.firewall.blocked contained a rule for each CIDR block I rejected. Now I keep it in a table definition in /etc/pf.conf. So far, in the last month, this is the full table definition for my pf firewall: table { \ 60.0.0.0/8, \ 61.0.0.0/8, \ 195.0.0.0/8, \ 202.0.0.0/7, \ 221.0.0.0/8, \ 222.0.0.0/8 \ } And at the appropriate place, I have a rule to block anything from those blocks: # Block Network Badlands (table ) block in quick on $ext_if inet from to any I haven't figured out how to automagically include a separate file with this table defined yet, but I haven't really tried either. Another option I haven't tried is to simply pull the CIDR specs out of something like blackholes.us, which I use to block mail from Asia, but I haven't taken the time to do that. It probably wouldn't be rocket science to automagically scan for the table definition and add a CIDR spec at the top of the table if it wasn't already there, but like I said, I haven't really been trying. BTW, I'm copying this back to the list in case someone there *is* using some kind of automation to alert them to illegal user attempts, or if there is a switch I missed to include them in the security mailings. That will give them an opportunity to give you some help. That's usually a better option than getting me at the FreeBSD-at- address, since it goes to a mailbox specifically for the list, and unless the subject sets off any bells (like yours did in this case) I won't always read it. Besides, I'm more of a novice with network security/firewall setup, so you want some of the more knowledgeable folks there to have an opportunity to correct me :) For *true offlist* email, I can be reached more reliably at leblanc-at- Good luck. I'll continue to follow this thread in case someone posts something I can elaborate on to some useful end. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ McGowan's Madison Avenue Axiom: If an item is advertised as "under $50", you can bet it's not $19.95. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 19:34:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C4F16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:34:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F101643D5E for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:34:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from [192.168.8.50] (ppp19-170.static.internode.on.net [150.101.19.170])j0AJYAAi091430; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 06:04:11 +1030 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 06:04:21 +1030 From: Shane Ambler To: Martin Hepworth , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <72cf361e050110074527068207@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: netatalk, NFS, OS X and backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:34:14 -0000 Personally I use a combination of applescript and cli. With applescript you create a script that mounts the remote afp volume. Eg in script editor On run try mount volume "afp://server/sharepoint" as user name "name" with password "crypt" on error -- end try End run Personally I put the mount command inside the try block to prevent error dialogs coming up - that is why the -- (a comment line) is after on error - it tricks the script into doing nothing on error. As you might guess this is plain text - for security when you save it you can save as application and tick the run only box - this prevents the file being opened in the script editor and read - you can open and run it but not see the source. This will mount the specific share point - it shows up in /volumes/sharepoint - which can then be copied to/from I then use the cli to compress/copy files - personally I use stuffit deluxe for compression as the deluxe version includes the cli tools and handles resource forks / meta data etc. #! /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/stuff -f sitx -n /pathto/backupfile /pathto/filestobackup cp /pathto/backupfile /volumes/sharepoint/backupfile Of course you put the date/numbers into the filename as you prefer. One gotcha to look out for is if the sharepoint doesn't mount for whatever reason the cp step will create a folder in /volumes and will copy locally instead of to the server. There is also the option of using scp to get the files to the server. There is a cli - mount_afp - when I tried it some time ago I had some problem(can't remember what now) so I used the applescript instead. You then setup cron to run the applescript and the shell script when you want. With the applescript it is a gui app so in cron you need /usr/bin/open /pathto/applescript.app Remember the .app is not shown in the finder but is needed for the cli, easy to miss. On 11/1/05 2:15 AM, "Martin Hepworth" wrote: > have you looked at amanda? Uses it's daemons to transfer the data, and > you can select where to comress (on client or server). > > works well when used with hfstar on MacOS X ... > > restores are normally done by the admin and currently its a cli...no > plans AFAIK to make this a gui. > > --- > Martin > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:29:59 -0500, Alan Curtis wrote: >> I need some advice about integrating my FreeBSD server with some Macs >> running OS X. >> >> I have a server running FreeBSD 5.3 with NFS and netatalk enabled, a >> Powerbook G4 running OS X 10.3.7 and they are connected through a >> wireless network. I used the Powerbook to administer the server using >> ssh, which works well. I would also like to use the server to backup >> files (for multiple users) from the Powerbook. I have played around >> with both NFS and netatalk (afpd) and both seem to be working, in that >> I can manually mount the shares on the Powerbook. I have got the NFS >> share to automount on the Powerbook but not the afp share. I can copy >> files to and from both the nfs and afp mounted shares, including >> resource forks. I have played with various backup utilities including >> rsync, psync and rdiff-backup with varying degrees of success. >> >> Some observations/questions >> >> 1. netatalk afp seems consistently and significantly faster than nfs. >> Is this to be expected or might I have a problem with nfs? If so how do >> I diagnose and fix it? >> >> 2. I would prefer to use nfs, because I can automount it on the >> Powerbook and run a cron (actually anacron) script to backup the >> multiple users. I haven't yet worked out how (or if) I can do this with >> afp (this is really a Mac question I know). >> >> 3. I would like to use a backup scheme which is automatic, invisible to >> the user, yet configured in a way that the archive can be navigated, >> and files appear in folders on the Mac finder in a consistent way (with >> resource forks set up correctly). >> >> All of this seems almost possible, yet I don't seem to have got it just >> right yet. Has anyone one any insight they can spread or experiences >> they can share of a similar set up? >> >> Alan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Shane Ambler Sales Department 007Marketing.com Shane@007Marketing.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 19:42:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461C816A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:42:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36B043D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:42:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jez.hancock@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so18543rnf for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:42:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gNOYqRU6C+XrFmvrWFruMLd0tuBrOxwr12NVTrbxBTlWk3tfT5oYtTk+iLU5SK/8wOAN+Dtpk7VTPQqE/PZPOdehjKo5jd440+2HffZvm9IMz29aGZhIfuMtuhOwIgT+vg72oee9hHi8PL8i7JNkQySxneYYvhDoWmhv9TVmSSg= Received: by 10.38.96.53 with SMTP id t53mr11021rnb; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:42:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.83.19 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:42:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7b3c7f0b0501101142223c3e36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:42:16 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jez Hancock List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:42:17 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:23:04 -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/10/05 12:20 AM, artware sat at the `puter and typed: > > Hello again, > > > > My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already > > had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in > > the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login > > names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them > > hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from > > these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or > > do I have to hack something together for each daemon? > > > The best defense is a good firewall, good passwords, and restriction of > user ids that may login remotely. I started blocking the addresses that attacked but the frequency of the attacks made it impractical to add every attacking address to the firewall ruleset. I came to the conclusion that as long as the items you mention above are in place - especially good passwords - and the attacks aren't saturating the connection, then there's little to worry about - perhaps on a par with portscanning. Another fairly simple option though is to just change the port that sshd listens on since the attacks presume that sshd is listening on port 22. Not always practical though if you have lots of users. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://freebsd.munk.nu/ - A FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/ - ipfw peruser traffic logging From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 20:00:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1334E16A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:00:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C746643D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 363156928B for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:00:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:00:55 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110200055.GF7456@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> <7b3c7f0b0501101142223c3e36@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <7b3c7f0b0501101142223c3e36@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:00:48 -0000 On 01/10/05 07:42 PM, Jez Hancock sat at the `puter and typed: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:23:04 -0500, Louis LeBlanc > wrote: > > On 01/10/05 12:20 AM, artware sat at the `puter and typed: > > > Hello again, > > > > > > My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already > > > had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in > > > the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login > > > names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them > > > hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from > > > these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or > > > do I have to hack something together for each daemon? > > > > > > The best defense is a good firewall, good passwords, and restriction of > > user ids that may login remotely. > > I started blocking the addresses that attacked but the frequency of > the attacks made it impractical to add every attacking address to the > firewall ruleset. I came to the conclusion that as long as the items > you mention above are in place - especially good passwords - and the > attacks aren't saturating the connection, then there's little to worry > about - perhaps on a par with portscanning. You're right there, but I figure I'm going to get hundreds or thousands of IPs if I block the CIDR spec. It's a little heavy handed, but those networks will often beget dozens of attacks over a space of a couple weeks sometimes, and often no two come from the same IP. Whether it's the same system is anyones guess, but unless they get a new provider, they have no access to my system. > Another fairly simple option though is to just change the port that > sshd listens on since the attacks presume that sshd is listening on > port 22. Not always practical though if you have lots of users. I've seen this recommended here many times. I haven't done it because I work on too many systems that I don't have that kind of control over, and I don't need to confuse myself with nonstandard configs. I already have 2 or 3 dozen passwords to remember :| Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when you looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. -- Poul Anderson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 20:07:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFC616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:07:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao01.cox.net (lakermmtao01.cox.net [68.230.240.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0597C43D1F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:07:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050110200724.XNPZ27357.lakermmtao01.cox.net@localhost> for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:07:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:07:25 -0500 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110200725.GA16977@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050106213433.GA1699@kongemord.krig.net> <20050109012539.GA5042@kongemord.krig.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050109012539.GA5042@kongemord.krig.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: dhclient: send_packet: Permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:07:27 -0000 On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 08:25:39PM -0500, Bob Hall wrote: > I keep getting the message > dhclient: send_packet: Permission denied This stopped when I added ${fwcmd} add allow udp from ${router} bootps to ${bcast} bootpc in via ${oif} to my rule set. My dhclient was broadcasting packets but the firewall wasn't letting the broadcast responses from the router in. Once dhclient could read the responses (which included the DHCP server address), it stopped trying to send the packets that were being blocked. I'm using a modified version of the SIMPLE rule set for IPFW. If the DHCP rules are anywhere after the NAT divert rule, they are never triggered. Something else is denying or allowing the DHCP packets. This doesn't make any sense to me, but I moved the DHCP rules to the beginning of the rule set and all is well. For anyone who's interested, here's the rules I added to handle DHCP packets. They allow direct traffic between my host (oip) and the DHCP server (dhcps), and between oip and the subnet router (router). They also allow broadcast packets from dhcps, router, and oip, provided they come from and are directed to the correct bootp ports. These rules should follow the "setup_loopback" call, unless you explicity assign rule numbers. In addition, dhcps sends an echo request to an address before assigning it, to check if it's already in use. Since I don't honor echo requests, I added two rules to to respond to dhcps's echo requests. A DHCP client should should double check before accepting an IP address by sending an ARP packet, but it's not required and doesn't always happen. My ISP changed my IP address while I was testing this because I failed to respond to the server's echo request and the client that got my old address didn't check to see if it was in use. ######################################################## ## DHCP server IP address ######################################################### search_text="dhcp-server-identifier" file_path=`ls /var/db/dhclient.leases` if [ -z `echo ${file_path} | grep 'No such file or directory'` ] then dhcps=`grep ${search_text} ${file_path} | sed 's/.* \([0-9.]*\);/\1/'` fi if [ -z "${dhcps}" ] then dhcps="any" fi ######################################################## ## DHCP router IP address ######################################################### if [ -z `echo ${file_path} | grep 'No such file or directory'` ] then # If > 1 router is listed, get the last one. router=`grep "routers" ${file_path} | sed 's/.*[^0-9.]\([0-9.]*\);/\1/'` fi if [ -z "${router}" ] then router="any" fi ## Broadcast address bcast="255.255.255.255" ##################################################### ## DHCP section (Immediately following "setup_loopback") ###################################################### ${fwcmd} add allow udp from ${dhcps} bootps to ${oip} bootpc in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add allow udp from ${oip} bootpc to ${dhcps} bootps out via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add allow udp from ${router} bootps to ${oip} bootpc in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add allow udp from ${oip} bootpc to ${router} bootps out via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add allow udp from ${dhcps} bootps to ${bcast} bootpc in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add allow udp from ${router} bootps to ${bcast} bootpc in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add allow udp from ${oip} bootps to ${bcast} bootpc out via ${oif} ####################################################### ## ICMP section ###################################################### ... ${fwcmd} add pass log icmp from ${dhcps} to ${oip} icmptype 8 in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add pass log icmp from ${oip} to ${dhcps} icmptype 0 out via ${oif} Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 20:10:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B82516A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:10:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E12543D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:10:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE24FD020 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:10:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E2E142.3010901@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:10:42 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050110172303.GA7456@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:10:48 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/10/05 12:20 AM, artware sat at the `puter and typed: >>My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already >>had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in >>the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login >>names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them >>hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from >>these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or >>do I have to hack something together for each daemon? > > > I get this all the time too. I'm sure anyone with a *nix system on the > net does. I have two boxes, one allows password authentication, and I also see these attempts. the other only accepts login with ssh-keys and I see no such activity. > I'm sure after reading this, someone else will post another favorite > password generation method, including the numerous ports available - I'd > like to see one that checks the security of a password rather than just > generating them. yeah, close your eyes, hit the keyboard with all 10 fingers and your nose and see what comes out: ac0e48 amæifljasc4å0w(V4 ok - I admit, I didn't hit the keyboard with my nose, but it's absolutely not a dictionary word :-) > As for the firewall and the originating IP, I follow a plain process: > > Check the whois record of the offending IP > If the IP is in Asia, Russia, or Nigeria, I drop the CIDR spec into my > firewall table and never hear from anyone on the network > again. The CIDER spec is part of the whois record > If the IP is in Western Europe or North America, I notify the abuse > address to inform them they either have a cracker or a cracked > system. > > This practice has reduced these attempts considerably. Each time I see > another, I add it to the blocked table (I use pf, not ipfw). If it's a problem, try to reverse your thinking, why are you allowing access from everywhere in the first place? It is far easier to list the ranges you know your users will be logging in from than try to block these occasional events that never happens from the same source. If you are serving a university campus it's likely not an option to block of specific countries or continents, but if it's your SOHO I see no reason you should leave the doors open from ranges you know can only be intruders. If interested, I have a script for picking out countries from the delegation lists: www.daemonsecurity.com/src/ip-rules.pl Go ahead and hack it to create the rules you need. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 20:18:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C994116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:18:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1738B43D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:18:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0AKI1543348 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:18:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:18:01 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110141801.A43326@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: WiFi PCMCIA or CardBus cards with Compaq Armada laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:18:02 -0000 When I upgraded from FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE (yeah - about a year old) to FreeBSD 5.2.1, my WiFi capability went away. I have tried my own LinkSys card and borrowed a friend's NETGEAR card with essentially the same problem (it's not 100% deterministic even with the same card, so it's hard to be 100% sure, but the big picture is sure the same). With either card, the system eventually locks up so hard that the only way to shut it down is to disconnect the battery - the power switch doesn't work. Sometimes I see a Fatal Trap 19 and panic: non-maskable interrupt in (while in kernel mode), and sometimes, it just locks up right after displaying the driver line - but it isn't useful in any case. I have reported this as a hardware bug through GNATS, but it seems like it would be something someone who have noticed between 5.2.1 and now, and I sure couldn't find any similar bug reports before turning in mine. I would really appreciate hearing from anyone who a) has a similar problem b) has a similar setup but does not have the problem. 802.11b cards are not expensive - I'd be quite willing to buy a new CardBus or PCMCIA card if I had a reasonable expectation of it not behaving in this way. Thanks! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 20:24:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E77D16A4D2 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:24:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA3143D58 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:24:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:25:20 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202E1AD06@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Portupgrade - Ruby error Thread-Index: AcT3UoEzUm2UTzj7SFyeEczkhkeTxQ== From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: Subject: Portupgrade - Ruby error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0000 Having problems using Portupgrade utilities because of Ruby. It started last Friday and I waited for the weekend just in case the cvs = tree will get updated with a possible fix. Output of error is.. %portversion /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/dl/types.rb:172:in `encode_type': = unknown type: const char *. (TypeError) from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/dl/import.rb:138:in = `import' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/dl/import.rb:65:in = `extern' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgmisc.rb:85 from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:5:in `require' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:5 from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkg.rb:3:in `require' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkg.rb:3 from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgtools.rb:24:in = `require' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgtools.rb:24 from /usr/local/sbin/portversion:35:in `require' from /usr/local/sbin/portversion:35 % It happens same for using portupgrade too. I tried to google this and discovered that it is possible a ruby = developer problem. The cvs tree was updated just recently and I tried to = reinstall just to be sure. I did this by deinstalling both ruby and = portupgrade. After I deinstalled ruby, I deleted the directory, = /usr/local/lib/ruby. I only installed portupgrade which installed ruby by "cd = /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade/ ; make clean ; make install". I still have this ruby problem above. %pkg_info | grep portupgrade portupgrade-20041226_1 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and = management tool s %pkg_info | grep ruby ruby-1.6.8.2004.07.28_1 An object-oriented interpreted scripting = language ruby16-bdb1-0.2.2 Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with = full featu ruby16-shim-ruby18-1.8.1.p3 A set of Ruby modules to provide Ruby 1.8 = functionalities %uname -a FreeBSD xxxxxxxx.org 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Fri Sep 17 = 18:57:24 CDT 2004 admin@haulmark02:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HAULMARK02 = i386 % Any advices on how I can look into resolving this problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 20:35:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D009716A4D4 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:35:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9169943D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:35:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DBE369282 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:35:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:35:37 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110203537.GA77458@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:35:31 -0000 On 01/10/05 01:44 PM, Scott Bye sat at the `puter and typed: > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and listening for connections. > > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and > nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. > > It's obviously affecting both POP3 and IMAP, leaving the mail services on my server useless. > > I tried reinstalling the port for courier-imap, but it complained that > it couldn't find courierlogger. So I reinstalled courier-authlib from > ports, and reinstalled courier-imap and it no longer complained. > However, the services are still doing exactly the same! > > Any ideas what has happened?! > I just ran into the same kind of problems. I finally found that in addition to the courier_authdaemond_enable="YES" enabler in /etc/rc.conf, the imapd-ssl enable tag has changed. Where you used to need courier_imap_imapdssl_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf, you now need courier_imap_imapd_ssl_enable="YES" I don't use pop or unencrypted imap, so you'd have to verify that those haven't changed if you use them. HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ "Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like `Psychic Wins Lottery'?" -- Jay Leno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 20:42:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7287116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:42:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473D643D54 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marella@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-66-8-190-99.hawaii.rr.com [66.8.190.99])j0AKgRuY024086; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:42:27 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Marella To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <41E24463.3080207@locolomo.org> References: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> <41E24463.3080207@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:45:18 -1000 Message-Id: <1105389918.813.2.camel@p4> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS export of evolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:42:30 -0000 On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 10:01 +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Robert Marella wrote: > > Hello > > > > I am not sure where this problem should go so I am posting to > > -questions. > > > > I have a SOHO set up with several computers running a mix of FreeBSD 5.3 > > Release and Stable. I have an NFS server set up so that data can be > > shared at all of the computers. > > > > I would like to have the ability to retrieve mail from any of the > > computers I happen to be logged into. I have tried various permutations > > of exporting /home, /home/reg-user, and /home/reg-user/.evolution and I > > always get the same error when trying to read mail. > > > > I am able to mount the directory(ies) on the client computers and am > > able to call up evolution and see the messages but when I try to read > > any message I get this error > > > > ****************************************************************** > > Error while Retrieving message 1292 (this number varies of course) > > > > Failed to get lock using fcntl(2): Operation not supported. > > ****************************************************************** > > > > I read the man page for fcntl but I didn't get any help out of it. It > > was way over my head. > > > > Here is the important bits from /etc/exports > > > > /home/reg-user/.evolution -alldirs notebook.my.local.lan > > > > I have also tried -maproot with out any luck. I would think this is > > possible but I guess I haven't set up the right conditions or options. > > Can anyone help me out? > > The error appears to be with filelocking not mounting. Filelocking is a > problem on NFS as many independent systems might try to get write access > to the same file at the same time. Do you have: > > rpc_lockd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for client/server. > rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for client/server. > > in your rc.conf? Eric, No I do not have that in my rc.conf. I tried adding it and got the same results. Should I try to change the values to ="NO" ?? Thanks for responding. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:04:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CB716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:04:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AFF43D60 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:04:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A2AFD020; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:04:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E2EDC6.2050806@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:04:06 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Marella References: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> <41E24463.3080207@locolomo.org> <1105389918.813.2.camel@p4> In-Reply-To: <1105389918.813.2.camel@p4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS export of evolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:04:12 -0000 Robert Marella wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 10:01 +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > >>Robert Marella wrote: >> >>>Hello >>> >>>I am not sure where this problem should go so I am posting to >>>-questions. >>> >>>I have a SOHO set up with several computers running a mix of FreeBSD 5.3 >>>Release and Stable. I have an NFS server set up so that data can be >>>shared at all of the computers. >>> >>>I would like to have the ability to retrieve mail from any of the >>>computers I happen to be logged into. I have tried various permutations >>>of exporting /home, /home/reg-user, and /home/reg-user/.evolution and I >>>always get the same error when trying to read mail. >>> >>>I am able to mount the directory(ies) on the client computers and am >>>able to call up evolution and see the messages but when I try to read >>>any message I get this error >>> >>>****************************************************************** >>>Error while Retrieving message 1292 (this number varies of course) >>> >>>Failed to get lock using fcntl(2): Operation not supported. >>>****************************************************************** >>> >>>I read the man page for fcntl but I didn't get any help out of it. It >>>was way over my head. >>> >>>Here is the important bits from /etc/exports >>> >>>/home/reg-user/.evolution -alldirs notebook.my.local.lan >>> >>>I have also tried -maproot with out any luck. I would think this is >>>possible but I guess I haven't set up the right conditions or options. >>>Can anyone help me out? >> >>The error appears to be with filelocking not mounting. Filelocking is a >>problem on NFS as many independent systems might try to get write access >>to the same file at the same time. Do you have: >> >>rpc_lockd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for client/server. >>rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for client/server. >> >>in your rc.conf? > > > Eric, > No I do not have that in my rc.conf. I tried adding it and got the same > results. Should I try to change the values to ="NO" ?? No, default is "NO" (see /etc/defaults/rc.conf for further options). I don't know if you have to enable it on both client and server, and you also need rpcbind if it was not enabled. Note, these are rpc-services, so if you have a strict firewall (that is any) your clients may not be able to access the lockd. Unfortunately there is no way of predicting which port lockd will bind to. Btw I assume that after adding the above lines to your rc.conf you succesfully started the services :-) (both statd and lockd are started by /etc/rc.d/nfslocking start) you should be able to see to which ports they bind using 'sockstat -4': daemon rpc.lockd 3329 3 udp4 *:648 *:* root rpc.lockd 3328 3 udp4 *:648 *:* root rpc.statd 3323 5 udp4 *:805 *:* if you don't see it check in /var/log/messages if it registred properly with rpcbind. I just tried and found that lockd wouldn't start without statd. I should add that I haven't really used statd/lockd, but from what I know, it appears your solution is somewhere in that direction. I hope this at least works as a pointer for you... :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:09:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA1416A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:09:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8848C43D49 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:09:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Co6mk-000731-2M; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:09:10 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:09:20 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> <41E24463.3080207@locolomo.org> <1105389918.813.2.camel@p4> In-Reply-To: <1105389918.813.2.camel@p4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501101509.20300.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bccc624ad85c367de90ee917f7c33374f7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Robert Marella Subject: Re: NFS export of evolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:09:11 -0000 On Monday 10 January 2005 02:45 pm, Robert Marella wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 10:01 +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > > Robert Marella wrote: > > > Hello > > > > > > I am not sure where this problem should go so I am posting to > > > -questions. > > > > > > I have a SOHO set up with several computers running a mix of > > > FreeBSD 5.3 Release and Stable. I have an NFS server set up so > > > that data can be shared at all of the computers. > > > > > > I would like to have the ability to retrieve mail from any of the > > > computers I happen to be logged into. I have tried various > > > permutations of exporting /home, /home/reg-user, and > > > /home/reg-user/.evolution and I always get the same error when > > > trying to read mail. > > > > > > I am able to mount the directory(ies) on the client computers and > > > am able to call up evolution and see the messages but when I try > > > to read any message I get this error > > > > > > ***************************************************************** > > >* Error while Retrieving message 1292 (this number varies of > > > course) > > > > > > Failed to get lock using fcntl(2): Operation not supported. > > > ***************************************************************** > > >* > > > > > > I read the man page for fcntl but I didn't get any help out of > > > it. It was way over my head. > > > > > > Here is the important bits from /etc/exports > > > > > > /home/reg-user/.evolution -alldirs notebook.my.local.lan > > > > > > I have also tried -maproot with out any luck. I would think this > > > is possible but I guess I haven't set up the right conditions or > > > options. Can anyone help me out? > > > > The error appears to be with filelocking not mounting. Filelocking > > is a problem on NFS as many independent systems might try to get > > write access to the same file at the same time. Do you have: > > > > rpc_lockd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for > > client/server. rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed > > for client/server. > > > > in your rc.conf? > > Eric, > No I do not have that in my rc.conf. I tried adding it and got the > same results. Should I try to change the values to ="NO" ?? > > Thanks for responding. > > Robert > I had a hard time sharing NFS directories that were not actual mount points. When I changed the shared directories in /etc/exports to actual mount points (not directories below them) with -alldirs, I was able to mount the specific subdirectories I wanted on the client side. Although /etc/exports allows me to limit access to my own user, the idea of sharing whole mount points makes me a little nervous, so I don't use NFS much. I'm sure I've done something wrong; but I found it easier to use the alternatives below than to hunt down the problem. If you can't get NFS working, you might try: 1. Sharing files via webdav. This would be convenient if you're already running a web server and your clients browse using konqueror. I use webdav with ssl on Apache2. 2. Accessing remote email and PIM applications using tightvnc. Good luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:12:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E9016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:12:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (ns.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5493F43D53 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:12:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:11:52 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Monday, 10 January 2005, 15:51:04 Received: from 172.16.11.106 ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:51:02 -0400 Message-ID: <1105372286.1278.39.camel@draco.cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:51:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2005 19:51:02.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6EBB6A0:01C4F74D] References: In-Reply-To: Subject: openoffice 1.1.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:12:10 -0000 i get this error trying to install openoffice-1.1-devel ./install: not found whereis it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:29:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE69A16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:29:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com (mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com [66.48.68.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2229943D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:29:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@danielquinn.org) Received: from douglas ([66.59.162.146]) (authenticated)j0ALQMd04741 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:22 GMT Exocomm-Delivery-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:26:22 GMT Exocomm-URL: www.exocomm.com From: daniel quinn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:28:24 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Subject: building a package without installing it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:29:39 -0000 is this even possible? a number of google results have informed me that it isn't, but i'm hoping there's a hack or a work around. essentially, i want to build the packages on one box, copy them to many boxes and run package_add there. suggestions/comments? -- Simon: This may come as a surprise, but I'm not very good at talking to girls. Zoe: Why, is there someone you are good at talking to? - Simon and Zo, Firefly, "The Message" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:31:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF3016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:31:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com (mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com [66.48.68.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7514643D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@danielquinn.org) Received: from douglas ([66.59.162.146]) (authenticated)j0ALS5d04749 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:05 GMT Exocomm-Delivery-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:28:05 GMT Exocomm-URL: www.exocomm.com From: daniel quinn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:30:07 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101630.08020.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:31:21 -0000 On January 10, 2005 01:20 am, artware wrote: > My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already > had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in > the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login > names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them > hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from > these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or > do I have to hack something together for each daemon? i have three suggestions for this: 1) edit sshd_config to set PermitRootLogin to "no". since root is the only user on your system that obviously exists elsewhere, this is a nice start 2) setup sshd to allow connections with keys only. then go buy yourself a usb key and keep your private key on there when you connect. 3) use a port-knocking daemon: http://www.portknocking.org/ http://www.zeroflux.org/knock/ -- those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it - unknown From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:32:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA02E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:32:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FC143D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:32:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BF5FD021; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:32:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E2F452.9090102@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:32:03 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew L. Gould" References: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> <41E24463.3080207@locolomo.org> <1105389918.813.2.camel@p4> <200501101509.20300.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200501101509.20300.algould@datawok.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Robert Marella Subject: Re: NFS export of evolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:32:08 -0000 Andrew L. Gould wrote: > I had a hard time sharing NFS directories that were not actual mount > points. When I changed the shared directories in /etc/exports to > actual mount points (not directories below them) with -alldirs, I was > able to mount the specific subdirectories I wanted on the client side. > Although /etc/exports allows me to limit access to my own user, the > idea of sharing whole mount points makes me a little nervous, so I > don't use NFS much. I'm sure I've done something wrong; but I found > it easier to use the alternatives below than to hunt down the problem. OK, this appears to be a different problem, I understod Robert was able to mount. Anyway, the NFS documentation isn't completely clear but, you can export any directory, say /var/ftp/pub which I have on my /var partition. But you can only use the option -alldirs when exporting a partition. Exporting a partition with -alldirs allows you to mount any sub- directory. If you do not want to export all directories in the whole partition you have to list each directory you want to be mountable. Also, permisions are set on a per partition-host/net combination, so this is NOT ok: /var/ftp/pub -ro -network 172.16.0.0 -mask 255.255.0.0 /var/httpd -rw -network 172.16.0.0 -mask 255.255.0.0 however this would be ok: /var/ftp/pub -ro -network 172.16.0.0 -mask 255.255.0.0 /var/ftp/pub -rw -network 172.17.0.0 -mask 255.255.0.0 /home/httpd -rw -network 172.16.0.0 -mask 255.255.0.0 this is really anoying :-( due to the permissions, and the the restric- tion on -alldirs you have to partition your disk according to the per- missions you want to nfs export the different things. It might be worth creating a slice for nfs exports, it is easier to repartion as needed if the slice doesn't also host your OS. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:39:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F49916A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:39:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41004.mail.yahoo.com (web41004.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3154243D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:39:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68184 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2005 21:39:30 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=SSF1bLxliJ8mYLt9dvS+RlUqjmHHVEwIFW9LXI7QGAont0x74gefNUm8EKezUXlGlP993H4piE/A14n6vtwyBEp296amI31d17p6qnYJIwW7ub7u1WXtIG/8dI6017jx0hMMXfvcW89Hwr29YKYh/5Woc9LlfC/3EmKwgd/jT7s= ; Message-ID: <20050110213930.68182.qmail@web41004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.20.162.6] by web41004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:39:30 PST Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:39:30 -0800 (PST) From: Joe To: "Greiman, John K (Mission Systems)" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9C7B8EE83F47D74BAA92C17CBB8885588A1A7C@xcgco501.northgrum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: josepha48@yahoo.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 and CD9660_ROOT bootable cdroms X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:39:31 -0000 In FreeBSD 4.x I used parts of that to create a cdrom. In 5.x I now use parts of the freesbie port to create bootable cdroms. It uses cdboot. Joe --- "Greiman, John K (Mission Systems)" wrote: > Using cdroot-1.2.5, I have successfuly created a bootable CD-R > which contains a full FreeBSD 5.2.1 installation (minimal: > base, crypto, and manpages). The bootable CD-R successfully > fdisk, disklabel, newfs, and installed on a test system. The > cdroot scripts required modifications, as there were issues > with the FreeBSD 4.X implementation and dependencies: > > 1. mkisofs > 2. mount_mfs > 3. MAKEDEV > 4. The diskless_mount entry in /etc/rc.conf > > John Greiman > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:41:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CE616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:41:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F100D43D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:41:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274A421C8E4 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:41:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32189-09 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:41:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667A821C8A9 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:41:02 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:40:50 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2462914.Di5878V9OJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501101541.01854.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: hdparm for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:41:04 -0000 --nextPart2462914.Di5878V9OJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Linux users have a tool, hdparm, that lets them adjust all sorts of drive=20 characteristics (read look-ahead, 32-bit I/O, multi-sector I/O, and so on)= =20 beyond the normal things seen in the hw.ata tree. Is there an equivalent f= or=20 =46reeBSD? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart2462914.Di5878V9OJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB4vZt5sRg+Y0CpvERAvVwAJwNDXdW41qHmXlWShdJZVbWeRSRtwCfW5yS Wv6j3dmNkaqPEsZZ2OH4Nac= =t7vo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2462914.Di5878V9OJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:51:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA6016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:51:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DB043D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:51:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (dhcp065-031-041-029.woh.rr.com [65.31.41.29]) j0ALp4wZ025904 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:51:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000301c4f75e$550390a0$0400a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:49:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: BackupPC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:51:14 -0000 Hello, Do you know if there's a port of BackupPC for FreeBSD? I'm looking for a backup solution for multiple platforms centering on a FreeBSD server. I've encountered BackupPC and Bacula, both look promising, primary backups are initially automated to disk then possibly later on to removable media such as DVD. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:52:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0C316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:52:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao12.cox.net (lakermmtao12.cox.net [68.230.240.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3C543D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:52:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian_davis@cox.net) Received: from Thor.Davis.net ([68.102.20.166]) by lakermmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with SMTP id <20050110215202.JGLA1656.lakermmtao12.cox.net@Thor.Davis.net>; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:52:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:52:02 -0600 From: Brian Davis To: FreeBsdBeni Message-Id: <20050110155202.06ffb1ed.brian_davis@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> References: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0rc (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:52:05 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:38:56 +0100 FreeBsdBeni wrote: > Hi, > > How do I find what ip address I'm really having ? > My adsl modem/firewall gives me a dynamic private address : > 192.168.1.101, which is what I see with an ifconfig. But how do I find > the real (dynamic) address given to my modem by my provider ? > I'm using 5.3-rel-p4. > -- > Beni. > Try the traceroute command. The first IP address will be the address of your modem. If I traceroute my ISP this is the output. The 1st line contains the IP address of my cable modem. traceroute to cox.net (68.1.17.9), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ip68-102-20-166.ks.ok.cox.net (68.102.20.166) 1.942 ms 1.941 ms 1.861 ms 2 ip68-102-0-1.ks.ok.cox.net (68.102.0.1) 14.284 ms 18.493 ms15.513 ms 3 ip68-103-127-194.ks.ok.cox.net (68.103.127.194) 21.864 ms 14.744 ms 11.646 ms 4 ip68-103-255-237.ks.ok.cox.net (68.103.255.237) 14.404 ms 32.946 ms 13.704 ms 5 68.1.1.180 (68.1.1.180) 18.623 ms 13.751 ms 18.183 ms 6 68.1.1.175 (68.1.1.175) 24.568 ms 29.769 ms 19.844 ms 7 mtc3bbrc02-pos0100.rd.ok.cox.net (68.1.0.103) 41.478 ms 20.997 ms 28.005 ms 8 lkhnbbrc01-pos0200.rd.at.cox.net (68.1.0.113) 51.983 ms 57.733 ms 48.226 ms 9 lkhndsrc01-pos0901.rd.at.cox.net (68.1.0.5) 60.806 ms 85.053 ms 53.278 ms 10 lkhnsysc01-gic03.at.cox.net (68.1.15.242) 46.912 ms 49.078 ms 50.568 ms 11 lkhnsysl01-gex1.at.cox.net (68.1.16.53) 63.030 ms 57.538 ms 64.792 ms From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 21:56:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ECF16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:56:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C663343D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:56:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2]) j0ALuhSe009607; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:56:43 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0ALuckT017215; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:56:38 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "'FreeBsdBeni'" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:56:38 -0700 Message-ID: <03b201c4f75f$42681e10$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <20050110155202.06ffb1ed.brian_davis@cox.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:56:46 -0000 Brian Davis wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:38:56 +0100 > FreeBsdBeni wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> How do I find what ip address I'm really having ? >> My adsl modem/firewall gives me a dynamic private address : >> 192.168.1.101, which is what I see with an ifconfig. But how do I >> find the real (dynamic) address given to my modem by my provider ? >> I'm using 5.3-rel-p4. >> -- >> Beni. >>=20 >=20 If you just need a simple solution to see your external IP address, just go to: http://www.ostrosoft.com/OIT/external_ip.asp It will show your outside IP address in red. Good luck, Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:00:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7986E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:00:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50007.mail.yahoo.com (web50007.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED2CB43D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:00:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anilmx@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83111 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2005 22:00:02 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:02:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2567616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:02:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ip193-230.digitalrealm.net [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC0943D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@tvog.net) Received: from adsl-68-72-248-38.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net ([68.72.248.38] helo=tvog.net) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Co7br-0002wT-2b; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:01:59 -0500 Message-ID: <41E2FB7D.4090606@tvog.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:02:37 -0500 From: Frank Laszlo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: daniel quinn References: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> In-Reply-To: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tvog.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building a package without installing it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:02:39 -0000 daniel quinn wrote: >is this even possible? a number of google results have informed me that it >isn't, but i'm hoping there's a hack or a work around. essentially, i want >to build the packages on one box, copy them to many boxes and run package_add >there. > >suggestions/comments? > > > FYI, this belongs on -ports. what is wrong with 'make package' ? -Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:08:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDB616A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:08:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6217543D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:08:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from craig.freebsd@online.de) Received: from [212.227.126.208] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Co7i3-0005QJ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:08:23 +0100 Received: from [217.231.91.30] (helo=[192.168.0.90]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Co7i3-0003rD-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: <41E2FCD6.2030107@online.de> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:08:22 +0100 From: craig Organization: small-pla.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041222) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E261E9.5040800@online.de> <20050110173638.GB7456@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050110173638.GB7456@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:13d873e74d14c1363715808660186da0 Subject: Re: nvidia driver problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: craig.freebsd@online.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:08:25 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > >>(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/". >> Entry deleted from font path. >> (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"). >>(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/". >> Entry deleted from font path. >> (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"). > > > These are worth fixing, though minor - the entries tell you how. corrected - thanks, i should have done that sooner. >>(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kBytes >>(II) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s): CRT-1, DFP-0 >>(WW) NVIDIA(0): Multiple displays connected, but only one display allowed; >>(WW) NVIDIA(0): using first display >>(--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 8 bpp: 350 MHz >>(--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 16 bpp: 350 MHz >>(--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-1: maximum pixel clock at 32 bpp: 350 MHz > > > You have 2 monitors? If so, I recommend the TwinView config. It's > tricky, but works well. no, i dont - i have a single samsung syncmaster 213t - but it has both analog and digital cables, as does the graphics cards. so i plugged them both in. winxp has no trouble switching between the two modes, and although i need to manually switch with freebsd - it still makes a reasonable difference. x is only visible on digital, while console looks terrible unless in analog. strange, but true. >># Option "NoLogo" "True" >># Option "RenderAccel" "True" > > You might want to uncomment RenderAccel - try it both ways once you get > your color depth right. will try that. > > As mentioned by the other posters, put the default depth speck in your > screen section. > i hope this is the key - once the current bout of compiling is complete, i will exit x and try again. > > Looks like you've got the NVidia AGP working, can I ask whether you > compiled it with Linux support? Did you get it from the ports or as a > package from NVidia? > yes, the agp does seem to be working fine. the nvidia package i downloaded direct from nvidia, and followed their instructions. was easy enough - except for the colour depth. i am not sure, however, if the nvidia driver was compiled with linux support. i did not do anything specific to make it so. i'm not sure if it helps, but my kernel is compiled with linux abi compatibility. and although the directory /compat/linux/usr/lib does exist, it is difficult to tell exactly which libraries nvidia are refering to in their documentation. i guess the tester will be running a gl app. i will test one of the screen savers when i switch over. > And I assume you have Xorg installed from the ports? > yes, installed from the ports. works like a dream. > The AGP feature has been an issue for several people, and it's been > tricky nailing down the tipping point that will make it work for some > and not others. I've got it working (very nicely with two monitors) and > it's bugging me that another person with the same card and FreeBSD > version can't get it working. i'll help where i can - this is a very fresh install of 5.3, and onto an empty disk - so no upgrades or changes, just a straight install. and i can pretty much remember most of what i've done to get here - if it helps i can certainly note the steps. perhaps you could see something in the sequence? > Lou thanks for your help, as well as jo and karel. -- craig@small-pla.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0049716A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:11:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com (mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com [66.48.68.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F07743D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@danielquinn.org) Received: from douglas ([66.59.162.146]) (authenticated)j0AM88d04856 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:08:08 GMT Exocomm-Delivery-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:08:08 GMT Exocomm-URL: www.exocomm.com From: daniel quinn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:10:10 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <41E2FB7D.4090606@tvog.net> In-Reply-To: <41E2FB7D.4090606@tvog.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101710.10453.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Subject: Re: building a package without installing it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:11:24 -0000 On January 10, 2005 05:02 pm, Frank Laszlo wrote: > daniel quinn wrote: > >is this even possible? a number of google results have informed me that > > it isn't, but i'm hoping there's a hack or a work around. essentially, i > > want to build the packages on one box, copy them to many boxes and run > > package_add there. > > > >suggestions/comments? > > FYI, this belongs on -ports. sorry 'bout that. i wasn't sure since it's both a question and something concerning ports ;-) > what is wrong with 'make package' ? from the ports manual: package Make a binary package for the port. The port will be installed if it has not already been. The package is a .tbz file that you can use to install the port on other machines with pkg_add(1). If the directory specified by PACKAGES does not exist, the package will be put into the current directory. See PKGREPOSITORY and PKGFILE. sounds encouraging, but here's what happens when i actually try it: # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash # make package ===> Installing for bash-3.0.16_1 ===> bash-3.0.16_1 depends on shared library: intl - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if shells/bash already installed ===> bash-3.0.16_1 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of shells/bash without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/shells/bash. there's nowhere for me to specify that i don't want bash installed on this machine. -- Now think real hard. You've been bird-dogging this township a while now. They wouldn't mind a corpse of you. Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you. - Mal, Firefly, "Our Mrs. Reynolds" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:20:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6A716A4D0 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:20:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E87743D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:20:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out012.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050110222019.PUGZ10436.out012.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:20:19 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4F4372CE742; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:17:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:17:03 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <41E2FB7D.4090606@tvog.net> <200501101710.10453.freebsd@danielquinn.org> In-Reply-To: <200501101710.10453.freebsd@danielquinn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101417.03984.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:20:19 -0600 Subject: Re: building a package without installing it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:20:21 -0000 On Monday 10 January 2005 02:10 pm, daniel quinn wrote: > On January 10, 2005 05:02 pm, Frank Laszlo wrote: > > daniel quinn wrote: > > >is this even possible? a number of google results have informed > > > me that it isn't, but i'm hoping there's a hack or a work around. > > > essentially, i want to build the packages on one box, copy them > > > to many boxes and run package_add there. > > > > > >suggestions/comments? > > > > FYI, this belongs on -ports. > > sorry 'bout that. i wasn't sure since it's both a question and > something concerning ports ;-) > > > what is wrong with 'make package' ? > > from the ports manual: > package Make a binary package for the port. The port will be > installed if it has not already been. The package is a > .tbz file that you can use to install the port on other > machines with pkg_add(1). If the directory specified by > PACKAGES does not exist, the package will be put into > the current directory. See PKGREPOSITORY and PKGFILE. > > sounds encouraging, but here's what happens when i actually try it: > > # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash > # make package > ===> Installing for bash-3.0.16_1 > ===> bash-3.0.16_1 depends on shared library: intl - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if shells/bash already installed > ===> bash-3.0.16_1 is already installed > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port > again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of shells/bash > without deleting it first, set the variable > "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" > command line. *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/shells/bash. > > there's nowhere for me to specify that i don't want bash installed on > this machine. If the port is allready installed try: pkg_create -b {name of installed port as listed under /var/db/pkg} -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:24:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460C116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:24:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com (mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com [66.48.68.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC9D43D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:24:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@danielquinn.org) Received: from douglas ([66.59.162.146]) (authenticated)j0AMLId04889 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:21:18 GMT Exocomm-Delivery-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:21:18 GMT Exocomm-URL: www.exocomm.com From: daniel quinn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:23:20 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200501101710.10453.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200501101417.03984.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200501101417.03984.reso3w83@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101723.20716.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Subject: Re: building a package without installing it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:24:34 -0000 On January 10, 2005 05:17 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > If the port is allready installed try: > pkg_create -b {name of installed port as listed under /var/db/pkg} cool, thanks and what if i don't want it installed on this machine? if i just want to build it here for use elsewhere? -- Also, I can kill you with my brain. - River, Firefly, "Trash" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:30:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AD416A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:30:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.performancedesign.no (dsl-static-124-226.oeke.tiscali.no [213.234.124.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8286C43D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:30:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from idart@performancedesign.no) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (hornet.performancedesign.no [213.234.124.227]) by mail.performancedesign.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3C620C05 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:30:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E301CC.5030802@performancedesign.no> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:29:32 +0100 From: Idar Tollefsen Organization: Performance Design User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0502-0, 10.01.2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: How to save gif0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:30:22 -0000 Hi, I recently added the gif pseudo device to my kernel to set up a VPN tunnel. I created the gif0 device with ifconfig, but I can't seem to find a way to "save" it so that I don't have to recreate it at boot time. Any ideas? - IT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:38:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51A816A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:38:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB76B43D88 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:38:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DE88D5145A; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:38:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:38:48 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Haulmark, Chris" Message-ID: <20050110223848.GA90951@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202E1AD06@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202E1AD06@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade - Ruby error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:38:50 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 03:25:20PM -0500, Haulmark, Chris wrote: > Having problems using Portupgrade utilities because of Ruby. >=20 >=20 > It started last Friday and I waited for the weekend just in case the > cvs tree will get updated with a possible fix. /usr/ports/UPDATING (and wrap your lines at 70 characters, please). Kris --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4wP4Wry0BWjoQKURAt5aAKCR+q4X325fJTzs4XqLBxy02WMGsgCfcVNC S5cM7GiUAbiBK8kr/c1ib7U= =gOcv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:43:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89AC16A4D9 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:43:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6957043D67 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:43:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0AMhF1i029704 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:43:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E304F0.3040209@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:42:56 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: daniel quinn References: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200501101710.10453.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200501101417.03984.reso3w83@verizon.net> <200501101723.20716.freebsd@danielquinn.org> In-Reply-To: <200501101723.20716.freebsd@danielquinn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building a package without installing it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:43:31 -0000 daniel quinn wrote: > On January 10, 2005 05:17 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote: >>If the port is allready installed try: >> pkg_create -b {name of installed port as listed under /var/db/pkg} > > cool, thanks > and what if i don't want it installed on this machine? if i just want to > build it here for use elsewhere? You could set up a jail and chroot into that before building the port, if you really want to keep your base system untouched. The pointyhat cluster used to build packages for the FTP servers does roughly this in order to provide a clean environment for testing. I suppose you could also just do a "make" on the build machine, then scp -r or rsync the work subdirectory of the port to the machine you want to install on, and then finish by doing the "make install" on that target machine. So long as all of the dependencies are up-to-date, anyway... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:46:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F5916A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:46:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D0843D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:46:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0AMk5X1030292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:46:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E3059A.6080509@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:45:46 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Idar Tollefsen References: <41E301CC.5030802@performancedesign.no> In-Reply-To: <41E301CC.5030802@performancedesign.no> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to save gif0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:46:10 -0000 Idar Tollefsen wrote: > I created the gif0 device with ifconfig, but I can't seem to find a way > to "save" it so that I don't have to recreate it at boot time. Any ideas? It's reasonable to put the right commands into an /etc/rc.local, or use /etc/rc.conf's mechanisms to put commands in a /etc/start_if.gif0. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:50:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716BF16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:50:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D7143D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:50:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marella@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-66-8-190-99.hawaii.rr.com [66.8.190.99])j0AMoikM029207; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:50:45 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Marella To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <41E2EDC6.2050806@locolomo.org> References: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> <41E24463.3080207@locolomo.org> <1105389918.813.2.camel@p4> <41E2EDC6.2050806@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:53:35 -1000 Message-Id: <1105397615.900.3.camel@p4> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS export of evolution-SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:50:48 -0000 On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 22:04 +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Robert Marella wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 10:01 +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > > > >>Robert Marella wrote: > >> > >>>Hello > >>> > >>>I am not sure where this problem should go so I am posting to > >>>-questions. > >>> > >>>I have a SOHO set up with several computers running a mix of FreeBSD 5.3 > >>>Release and Stable. I have an NFS server set up so that data can be > >>>shared at all of the computers. > >>> > >>>I would like to have the ability to retrieve mail from any of the > >>>computers I happen to be logged into. I have tried various permutations > >>>of exporting /home, /home/reg-user, and /home/reg-user/.evolution and I > >>>always get the same error when trying to read mail. > >>> > >>>I am able to mount the directory(ies) on the client computers and am > >>>able to call up evolution and see the messages but when I try to read > >>>any message I get this error > >>> > >>>****************************************************************** > >>>Error while Retrieving message 1292 (this number varies of course) > >>> > >>>Failed to get lock using fcntl(2): Operation not supported. > >>>****************************************************************** > >>> > >>>I read the man page for fcntl but I didn't get any help out of it. It > >>>was way over my head. > >>> > >>>Here is the important bits from /etc/exports > >>> > >>>/home/reg-user/.evolution -alldirs notebook.my.local.lan > >>> > >>>I have also tried -maproot with out any luck. I would think this is > >>>possible but I guess I haven't set up the right conditions or options. > >>>Can anyone help me out? > >> > >>The error appears to be with filelocking not mounting. Filelocking is a > >>problem on NFS as many independent systems might try to get write access > >>to the same file at the same time. Do you have: > >> > >>rpc_lockd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for client/server. > >>rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for client/server. > >> > >>in your rc.conf? > > > > > > Eric, > > No I do not have that in my rc.conf. I tried adding it and got the same > > results. Should I try to change the values to ="NO" ?? > > No, default is "NO" (see /etc/defaults/rc.conf for further options). I > don't know if you have to enable it on both client and server, and you > also need rpcbind if it was not enabled. This is the solution. rpcbind, rpc_lockd, and rpc_statd have to be enabled on both the server and the client. I now can sit in the recliner with the laptop and read the maillists. Thanks Erik for pulling on my collar and popping my head out of my ass. Robert > > Note, these are rpc-services, so if you have a strict firewall (that is > any) your clients may not be able to access the lockd. Unfortunately > there is no way of predicting which port lockd will bind to. > > Btw I assume that after adding the above lines to your rc.conf you > succesfully started the services :-) (both statd and lockd are started > by /etc/rc.d/nfslocking start) you should be able to see to which ports > they bind using 'sockstat -4': > > daemon rpc.lockd 3329 3 udp4 *:648 *:* > root rpc.lockd 3328 3 udp4 *:648 *:* > root rpc.statd 3323 5 udp4 *:805 *:* > > if you don't see it check in /var/log/messages if it registred properly > with rpcbind. I just tried and found that lockd wouldn't start without > statd. > > I should add that I haven't really used statd/lockd, but from what I > know, it appears your solution is somewhere in that direction. I hope > this at least works as a pointer for you... :-) > > Cheers, Erik > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:53:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDA316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:53:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ip193-230.digitalrealm.net [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F6943D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:53:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: from pcp01939978pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net ([68.32.91.145]) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Co8Op-0003E9-QJ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:52:35 -0500 Message-ID: <41E30781.60708@vonostingroup.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:53:53 -0500 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200501101710.10453.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200501101417.03984.reso3w83@verizon.net> <200501101723.20716.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <41E304F0.3040209@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <41E304F0.3040209@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - vonostingroup.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: daniel quinn Subject: Re: building a package without installing it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:53:17 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > daniel quinn wrote: > >> On January 10, 2005 05:17 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> >>> If the port is allready installed try: >>> pkg_create -b {name of installed port as listed under /var/db/pkg} >> >> >> cool, thanks >> and what if i don't want it installed on this machine? if i just >> want to build it here for use elsewhere? > > > You could set up a jail and chroot into that before building the port, > if you really want to keep your base system untouched. The pointyhat > cluster used to build packages for the FTP servers does roughly this > in order to provide a clean environment for testing. > I meant to send this before I left work, But here is a script I wrote for doing just this. http://www.franksworld.org/localuser_portinstall.html Let me know if you have any questions regarding setup, This should suit you nicely, as it will build most any port without root accessm within a chroot type environment. -Frank Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:54:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F5E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:54:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A9243D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:54:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 15509 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 22:54:05 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jan 2005 22:54:05 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D1ADE49; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:54:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: daniel quinn References: <200501101628.24793.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200501101710.10453.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200501101417.03984.reso3w83@verizon.net> <200501101723.20716.freebsd@danielquinn.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 10 Jan 2005 17:54:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200501101723.20716.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Message-ID: <448y70ki9f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building a package without installing it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:54:06 -0000 daniel quinn writes: > On January 10, 2005 05:17 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > If the port is allready installed try: > > pkg_create -b {name of installed port as listed under /var/db/pkg} > > cool, thanks > and what if i don't want it installed on this machine? if i just want to > build it here for use elsewhere? You could install to a different prefix (by setting PREFIX, I think) and point to a different package database (by setting PKG_DBDIR). I'm not sure if that would work, though; at the very worst, you could do the package building in a jail like the ports cluster does... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 22:57:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0023116A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:57:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86ECA43D1D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:57:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 50882 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 22:57:12 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 22:57:12 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:56:37 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1105372286.1278.39.camel@draco.cigb.edu.cu> In-Reply-To: <1105372286.1278.39.camel@draco.cigb.edu.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501102357.11725.4711@chello.at> cc: Osmany Guirola Cruz Subject: Re: openoffice 1.1.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:57:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 January 2005 16:51, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: > i get this error trying to install openoffice-1.1-devel > > ./install: not found > > whereis it? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-openoffice/2005-January/001197.html Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4whH09WjGjvKU74RAqqVAJ4iAi3Ej8h9Rs2sJ7F++wzSgKxIPgCeLs45 D5fz1CZv5vBN9r5qQPris2c= =/LCK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:04:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E39E16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:04:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.speakeasy.net (mail3.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1563E43D2F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:04:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 23242 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 23:04:07 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jan 2005 23:04:07 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9ED8944; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:04:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Kirk Strauser References: <200501101541.01854.kirk@strauser.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 10 Jan 2005 18:04:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200501101541.01854.kirk@strauser.com> Message-ID: <443bx8khsp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hdparm for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:04:08 -0000 Kirk Strauser writes: > Linux users have a tool, hdparm, that lets them adjust all sorts of > drive characteristics (read look-ahead, 32-bit I/O, multi-sector > I/O, and so on) beyond the normal things seen in the hw.ata tree. > Is there an equivalent for FreeBSD? You mean like atacontrol(8)? Or maybe you mean something more like tunefs(8)? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:04:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC21016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:04:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D6943D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:04:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E6855E.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.133.94]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FF82FC32; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:04:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E309F0.8040307@incubus.de> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:04:16 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Malcolm Kay References: <20050108153717.6864134a@eric.placeverte.home> <200501091146.51095.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20050109100748.5a696381@eric.placeverte.home> <200501102314.58007.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <200501102314.58007.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mess-mate cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file roo large !! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:04:24 -0000 Malcolm Kay wrote: > Is it really possible to have a ext3fs mount under FBSD 5.3? I know you > can mount an ext2fs file system and an existing linux ext3fs will probably > mount successfully (without journaling) as an ext2fs; but is this what are > you trying to do? I've last mounted ext2 on 5.2.1 (it was probably considered broken then since the module was excluded from the kernel build and had to be uncommented explicitly in the Makefile) and encountered a 2gb file size limit. Perhaps this problem isn't completely resolved yet? mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:06:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913B316A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:06:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stewie.obfuscated.net (stewie.obfuscated.net [66.118.188.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5714743D48 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:06:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@obmail.net) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (653259hfc120.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.59.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stewie.obfuscated.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983D36104 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:06:54 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <38228836-635C-11D9-9390-00039367611E@obmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: M Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:06:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Odd kernel error on an NFS server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:06:55 -0000 I occasionally see this on an NFS server under heavy load ufs_rename: fvp == tvp (can't happen) Any idea what this means and where I should look to fix it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:32:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDAC16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:32:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta4p.point.ne.jp (mta4p.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D5043D2D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:32:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp) Received: from vc3.point.ne.jp ([211.1.103.130]) by mta4p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050110233250.IMTD29542.mta4p@vc3.point.ne.jp> for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:32:50 +0900 Received: from fvc2-p.point.ne.jp (fvc2.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.77]) by vc3.point.ne.jp (Scanmail) with ESMTP id 779D72EFC4 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:32:49 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([218.230.40.210]) by fvc2-p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050110233249.CVAR178.fvc2-p@[218.230.40.210]> for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:32:49 +0900 From: Srot BULL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:32:26 +0000 Message-Id: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:32:52 -0000 Hello and Good Day to all, I could not remember when this problem appeared but I have tried to post 2 to 3 emails to the FreeBSD ML (ACPI, questions...) some months ago...and every time I get the same messages from my sendmail (I think). But since I only use mutt for sending emails to the FreeBSD ML...I thought I should wait and maybe the same problem would come out from the list (maybe it did and I was just practicing mutt and somehow I deleted those emails)... But I do not have problems sending Emails to anywhere if I use Evolution or Thunderbird and using an SMTP Server settings (my ISP's) for sending mails... Now, that I have come to appreciate mutt...I would like to use it from time to time especially when posting Emails to the FreeBSD lists... But this warning messages only comes out when I send Emails to the lists... >From what I can understand since I am not an expert this is just a guess...The FreeBSD ML mail servers could not verify that the Emails that I sent are from a valid list subscriber (something like an anti-spam function) because I have not configured correctly my sendmail settings (guess)... Am I right? and if I am, can anyone show me or give me some advice on how to configure my sendmail that I can use mutt and sendmail to directly send Emails to the list...Please. If I am wrong, then can anyone...give me a simple explanation (simple please - I know that I am asking too much, but I can assure you that I have already bookmarked the sendmail Website and sendmail batbook is already in my list of books that I am planning to purchase...not yet though) I am using 5.3 Stable in my IBM Laptop and a newly assembled Desktop also 5.3 Stable...My Internet connection is to an ADSL Modem (dynamic IP but have not changed since a year and a half ago)... Below are the usual warning message that I get: > ********************************************** > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > ********************************************** > >The original message was received at Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:30:20 GMT >from localhost [127.0.0.1] > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >... while talking to mx1.freebsd.org.: >>>> DATA ><<< 450 : Helo command rejected: Host not found >... Deferred: 450 : >Helo command rejected: Host not found ><<< 554 Error: no valid recipients >Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours >Will keep trying until message is 5 days old Thank you in advance and hoping for any response... Srot BULL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:37:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F8C16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:37:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta6p.point.ne.jp (mta6p.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB4943D3F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:37:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp) Received: from vc9.point.ne.jp ([211.1.103.137]) by mta6p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050110233738.MYHC20775.mta6p@vc9.point.ne.jp> for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:37:38 +0900 Received: from fvc1-p.point.ne.jp (fvc1.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.76]) by vc9.point.ne.jp (Scanmail) with ESMTP id 128E72AA02 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:37:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([218.230.40.210]) by fvc1-p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050110233737.HKTE5387.fvc1-p@[218.230.40.210]> for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:37:37 +0900 From: Srot BULL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:37:15 +0000 Message-Id: <1105432635.638.34.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Need Guidance in my Internet Connection Sharing configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:37:40 -0000 Hello and Good Day to all, I have tried to configure my system for Internet Connection Sharing but I could not implement the configuration properly. I am afraid that this is all my mind can figure out. Please look through below and I would appreciate if you could point out the mistakes that I have done or point me to any links that would help me help solve this problem. uname -a FreeBSD r40e.point.ne.jp 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #1: Mon Jan 10 12:49:58 UTC 2005 root@r40e.point.ne.jp:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/R40e i386 Kernel Configuration File: #===--- IPFIREWALL OPTIONS ---===# options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=5 options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #=- Enables NAT Functionality -=# options IPDIVERT /etc/rc.conf hostname="r40e.point.ne.jp" #** OutBound Interface **# ifconfig_bge0="DHCP" #** Internal LAN Interface **# ifconfig_aue0="inet 10.20.30.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" gateway_enable="YES" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="aue0" natd_flags="-dynamic -m" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/ipfw.rulesets" firewall_type="OPEN" firewall_quiet="YES" firewall_logging_enable="YES" This is my /etc/ipfw.rulesets: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh ipfw -q -f flush CMD="ipfw -q add" SKIP="skipto 00800" KS="keep-state" INIC="bge0" $CMD 00005 allow all from any to any via aue0 $CMD 00010 allow all from any to any via lo0 $CMD 00014 divert natd ip from any to any in via $INIC $CMD 00015 check-state $CMD 00020 $SKIP tcp from any to 192.168.0.1 53 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00021 $SKIP udp from any to 192.168.0.1 53 out via $INIC $KS $CMD 00030 $SKIP udp from any to 192.168.0.1 67 out via $INIC $KS $CMD 00040 $SKIP tcp from any to any 80 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00050 $SKIP tcp from any to any 443 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00060 $SKIP tcp from any to any 25 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00061 $SKIP tcp from any to any 110 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00070 $SKIP tcp from me to any out via $INIC setup $KS uid root $CMD 00080 $SKIP icmp from any to any out via $INIC $KS $CMD 00090 $SKIP tcp from any to any 37 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00100 $SKIP tcp from any to any 119 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00110 $SKIP tcp from any to any 22 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00120 $SKIP tcp from any to any 43 out via $INIC setup $KS $CMD 00130 $SKIP udp from any to any 123 out via $INIC $KS $CMD 00300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $INIC $CMD 00301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $INIC $CMD 00302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $INIC $CMD 00303 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in via $INIC $CMD 00304 deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any in via $INIC $CMD 00305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $INIC $CMD 00306 deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any in via $INIC $CMD 00307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $INIC $CMD 00308 deny all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in via $INIC #$CMD 00310 deny icmp from any to any in via $INIC $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $INIC $CMD 00320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $INIC $CMD 00321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $INIC $CMD 00322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $INIC $CMD 00323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $INIC $CMD 00330 deny all from any to any frag in via $INIC $CMD 00332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $INIC $CMD 00360 allow udp from any to 192.168.0.1 67 in via $INIC $KS #$CMD 00370 allow tcp from any to me 80 in via $INIC setup limit src-addr 2 #$CMD 00380 allow tcp from any to me 22 in via $INIC setup limit src-addr 2 #$CMD 00390 allow tcp from any to me 23 in via $INIC setup limit src-addr 2 $CMD 00400 deny log all from any to any in via $INIC $CMD 00450 deny log all from any to any out via $INIC $CMD 00800 divert natd ip from any to any out via $INIC $CMD 00801 allow ip from any to any $CMD 00999 deny log all from any to any ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The problem with the above configuration is I do not get connected to my ADSL Modem and no internet connection at all. "netstat -r" shows nothing... Are the configuration enough for me to configure my system for Internet Connection Sharing or do I have to tweak other settings? I would really appreciate any help, hints, or advices... Thank you in advance... By the way, since this is my first try in Internet Connection Sharing...I am not that sure with my cable connections... My internal LAN Card "bge0" is connected to my ADSL Modem while my other externel USB LAN Card "aue0" is connected to my switching hub...and the other PC that I have is also connected to the hub...Is this O.K.? Srot BULL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:50:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A84A16A4CF for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:50:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142C343D5D for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0ANohLW065496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:50:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:50:24 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp References: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:50:50 -0000 Srot BULL wrote: [ ... ] > If I am wrong, then can anyone...give me a simple explanation (simple > please - I know that I am asking too much, but I can assure you that I > have already bookmarked the sendmail Website and sendmail batbook is > already in my list of books that I am planning to purchase...not yet > though) The simple answer is that the name your machine claims to be isn't registered in the DNS, which is normal for dynamic connections. You should either relay all email to the mailserver your ISP should have available, or you should configure your MTA to masquerade as a valid domain. The former is likely to better in terms of passing spam-sensitive mailers. [ ... ] >><<< 450 : Helo command rejected: Host not found >>... Deferred: 450 : >>Helo command rejected: Host not found >><<< 554 Error: no valid recipients >>Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours >>Will keep trying until message is 5 days old Yes, see the NXDOMAIN response ("no such domain"): 28-cube% dig r40e.point.ne.jp. ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> r40e.point.ne.jp. ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 59233 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 [ ... ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:51:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3876A16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:51:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E326143D45 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:51:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49D44B8EE; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:51:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:52:04 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Brian Davis Message-ID: <20050110235204.GC601@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <200501091438.59814.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> <20050110155202.06ffb1ed.brian_davis@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050110155202.06ffb1ed.brian_davis@cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: FreeBsdBeni Subject: Re: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:51:22 -0000 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 03:52:02PM -0600, Brian Davis wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:38:56 +0100 > FreeBsdBeni wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > How do I find what ip address I'm really having ? > > My adsl modem/firewall gives me a dynamic private address : > > 192.168.1.101, which is what I see with an ifconfig. But how do I find > > the real (dynamic) address given to my modem by my provider ? > > I'm using 5.3-rel-p4. > > -- > > Beni. > > > > Try the traceroute command. The first IP address will be the > address of your modem. If I traceroute my ISP this is the output. > The 1st line contains the IP address of my cable modem. That doesn't work well if you use NAT, because traceroute works only in one direction (forward). With NAT you will see something like 1. internal address of your nat box/router (say: 192.168.1.1) 2. address of your NAT box' peer (the ISP router at the other end of the ADSL link, not your external address) 3. other addresses. The problem is that between 1 and 2, you won't see the external address of your NAT box (the one it got e.g. via DHCP). If you want to see that address, you'll have to perform the traceroute 'backwards'. That's what RR-Records in the ICMP protocol are for. % ping -R www.freebsd.org PING www.freebsd.org (216.136.204.117): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 216.136.204.117: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=235.246 ms RR: natbox.yourdomain.tld (a.b.c.d) upstream.yourprovider.tld (e.f.g.h) ... more addresses here ... Your external address would be a.b.c.d in the example above. e.f.g.h would be the 'other side' of your peer (isp) router (looking to ITS upstream router and away from you). Essentially, RR records are being seen from the destination (here: www.freebsd.org) rather than from the source. That's the only way to see the external address (a.b.c.d) of your NAT box. Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:56:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ED016A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:56:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED9043D5F for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:56:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0ANuNnp068170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:56:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E31614.7080401@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:56:04 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp References: <1105432635.638.34.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1105432635.638.34.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Guidance in my Internet Connection Sharing configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:56:28 -0000 Srot BULL wrote: [ ... ] > By the way, since this is my first try in Internet Connection > Sharing...I am not that sure with my cable connections... > My internal LAN Card "bge0" is connected to my ADSL Modem while my other > externel USB LAN Card "aue0" is connected to my switching hub...and the > other PC that I have is also connected to the hub...Is this O.K.? Your aDSL provider may not be giving you direct IP connectivity, but instead require you to configure PPPoE access via a username/password. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 23:57:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6FA16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:57:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.unifiednetworks.co.uk (host217-40-97-202.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.40.97.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0597643D31 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:57:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sbye@convergedservices.co.uk) Received: from convergedservices.co.uk (cain.unifiedgroup.local [10.0.0.6]) j0B010mC013016 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:01:00 GMT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:58:09 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? thread-index: AcT3VGh2Xjf/rvdhQwGZ2dbf3cPbNQAG9QIh From: "Scott Bye" To: , X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:57:01 -0000 Thanks :) I actually found that new RC flag for the authdaemon about 2 minutes after = my last post, and that fixed my problems. I must confess I didn't notice th= e change in the SSL ones though. Is there anywhere these kind of things are documented/displayed? Regards, Scott -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org on behalf of Louis LeBlanc Sent: Mon 1/10/2005 8:35 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? =20 On 01/10/05 01:44 PM, Scott Bye sat at the `puter and typed: > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and li= stening for connections. >=20 > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and > nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. >=20 > It's obviously affecting both POP3 and IMAP, leaving the mail services on= my server useless. >=20 > I tried reinstalling the port for courier-imap, but it complained that > it couldn't find courierlogger. So I reinstalled courier-authlib from > ports, and reinstalled courier-imap and it no longer complained. > However, the services are still doing exactly the same! >=20 > Any ideas what has happened?! >=20 I just ran into the same kind of problems. I finally found that in addition to the courier_authdaemond_enable=3D"YES" enabler in /etc/rc.conf, the imapd-ssl enable tag has changed. Where you used to need courier_imap_imapdssl_enable=3D"YES" in your /etc/rc.conf, you now need courier_imap_imapd_ssl_enable=3D"YES" I don't use pop or unencrypted imap, so you'd have to verify that those haven't changed if you use them. HTH Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org =D4=BF=D4=AC "Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like `Psychic Wins Lottery'?" -- Jay Leno _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may = be legally privileged. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:00:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB54216A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:00:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B4F43D45 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:00:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050111000032.VAEQ7873.out006.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:00:32 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57F2116B0 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 80632-03 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 797641163F; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:00:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:00:29 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050111000029.GA79048@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:00:32 -0600 Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:00:34 -0000 On 01/10/05 11:58 PM, Scott Bye sat at the `puter and typed: > Thanks :) > > I actually found that new RC flag for the authdaemon about 2 minutes after my last post, and that fixed my problems. I must confess I didn't notice the change in the SSL ones though. > > Is there anywhere these kind of things are documented/displayed? > Not that I noticed. The port should probably put it in a pkg-message file, since it's really a FreeBSD port change. I found it the hard way. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Bug, n.: An aspect of a computer program which exists because the programmer was thinking about Jumbo Jacks or stock options when s/he wrote the program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:05:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AF616A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:05:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023D343D45 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:05:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0B05e1D073570 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:05:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E31841.6030808@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:05:21 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Bye References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:05:57 -0000 Scott Bye wrote: [ ...format recovered... ] > I actually found that new RC flag for the authdaemon about 2 minutes after > my last post, and that fixed my problems. I must confess I didn't notice the > change in the SSL ones though. > > Is there anywhere these kind of things are documented/displayed? Yes, /usr/ports/UPDATING and sometimes in a port's pkg-message file, if one exists. If the port has a maintainer, communicating any surprises to that person will hopefully result in better documentation. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:07:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928AC16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:07:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7DF43D48 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:07:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853F36121; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:07:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 52156-02; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:07:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DACA60EA; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:07:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E318B2.3020108@makeworld.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:07:14 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: artware References: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:07:13 -0000 artware wrote: > Hello again, > > My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and I've already > had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in > the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login > names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them > hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from > these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system level, or > do I have to hack something together for each daemon? > > - ben > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Here's what I do - as root: route -nq add -host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 127.0.0.1 -blackhole To the attacker, it looks as if you dropped off the net. -- Best regards, Chris To save disk space in your home directory, compress files you rarely use with "gzip filename". -- Dru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:08:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD3416A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:08:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.unifiednetworks.co.uk (host217-40-97-202.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.40.97.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A5343D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:08:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sbye@convergedservices.co.uk) Received: from convergedservices.co.uk (cain.unifiedgroup.local [10.0.0.6]) j0B0C59S013052; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:12:05 GMT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:09:17 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? thread-index: AcT3cauTEPuagLioTM+qLJEp7Lz8LwAAB7ym From: "Scott Bye" To: "Chuck Swiger" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:08:04 -0000 Scott Bye wrote: [ ...format recovered... ] > I actually found that new RC flag for the authdaemon about 2 minutes after > my last post, and that fixed my problems. I must confess I didn't notice = the > change in the SSL ones though. >=20 > Is there anywhere these kind of things are documented/displayed? Yes, /usr/ports/UPDATING and sometimes in a port's pkg-message file, if one= =20 exists. If the port has a maintainer, communicating any surprises to that= =20 person will hopefully result in better documentation. --=20 -Chuck Thanks, IMHO this kind of info should be in the pkg-message file, and I sha= ll drop the maintainer a line tomorrow to suggest just that. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:15:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7874416A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:15:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta3p.point.ne.jp (mta3p.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBBC43D39 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp) Received: from vc11.point.ne.jp ([211.1.103.139]) by mta3p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050111001526.JJJP27771.mta3p@vc11.point.ne.jp>; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:15:26 +0900 Received: from fvc2-p.point.ne.jp (fvc2.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.77]) by vc11.point.ne.jp (Scanmail) with ESMTP id E74612AA0D; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:15:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([218.230.40.210]) by fvc2-p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050111001525.CWTF178.fvc2-p@[218.230.40.210]>; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:15:25 +0900 From: Srot BULL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E31614.7080401@mac.com> References: <1105432635.638.34.camel@localhost> <41E31614.7080401@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:15:03 +0000 Message-Id: <1105434903.849.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need Guidance in my Internet Connection Sharing configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:15:28 -0000 Thank you for the immediate response On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 18:56 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Srot BULL wrote: > [ ... ] > > By the way, since this is my first try in Internet Connection > > Sharing...I am not that sure with my cable connections... > > My internal LAN Card "bge0" is connected to my ADSL Modem while my other > > externel USB LAN Card "aue0" is connected to my switching hub...and the > > other PC that I have is also connected to the hub...Is this O.K.? > > Your aDSL provider may not be giving you direct IP connectivity, but instead > require you to configure PPPoE access via a username/password. My connection is simple, I just connect my ethernet cable to my aDSL broadband modem and then dhcp-client gets the necessary information for my system to connect to the internet...I think my username/password is already in my aDSL modem... Well, does this mean that I will not be able to share my internet connection at home?...not a big problem though but it hurts!...I can still just remove and insert the LAN cable to which PC I want to use and get connected immediately...I only wanted to learn how to configure how to share internet connection in LAN...and of course brag to my girlfriend that my FreeBSD is simple and powerful than her MS $...Hehehe... Maybe I should be consulting my ISP for this one? Pay some bucks for internet connection sharing? By the way, is my system clock wrong or yours? Once again thank you for the response and hope for other assistance/information in the future... Srot BULL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:23:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEC816A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:23:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta1p.point.ne.jp (mta1p.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D55343D48 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp) Received: from vc8.point.ne.jp ([211.1.103.136]) by mta1p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050111002330.ITOD766.mta1p@vc8.point.ne.jp>; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:23:30 +0900 Received: from fvc2-p.point.ne.jp (fvc2.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.77]) by vc8.point.ne.jp (Scanmail) with ESMTP id 5A6B12AA06; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:23:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([218.230.40.210]) by fvc2-p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050111002329.CXBL178.fvc2-p@[218.230.40.210]>; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:23:29 +0900 From: Srot BULL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> References: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:23:07 +0000 Message-Id: <1105435387.849.18.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:23:31 -0000 Again, thank you for the response, Haaa, I love FreeBSD! On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 18:50 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Srot BULL wrote: > [ ... ] > > If I am wrong, then can anyone...give me a simple explanation (simple > > please - I know that I am asking too much, but I can assure you that I > > have already bookmarked the sendmail Website and sendmail batbook is > > already in my list of books that I am planning to purchase...not yet > > though) > > The simple answer is that the name your machine claims to be isn't registered > in the DNS, which is normal for dynamic connections. You should either relay > all email to the mailserver your ISP should have available, or you should > configure your MTA to masquerade as a valid domain. > The former is likely to better in terms of passing spam-sensitive mailers. Can I configure my system's sendmail to the above suggestion that you wrote? Or am I stuck to using Evolution/Thunderbird with an SMTP setting and not sendmail as my smtp server? You know what, I once tried following an article from the BSD Hack book that I have but because of my poor knowledge in sendmail I could no longer received emails then...So, I had to reinstall my system again...that was months ago...Maybe I should try that one again and post it in the ML if I encounter problems (I know I will)... Again, is my system clock wrong or yours? I thought I have mine as correct... Once again thank you for the response and hoping for responses from you in the future... Srot BULL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:26:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DDF16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao11.cox.net (lakermmtao11.cox.net [68.230.240.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128C343D1D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ned.woody@cox.net) Received: from ip68-13-42-191.om.om.cox.net ([68.13.42.191]) by lakermmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP <20050111002604.QFDP1657.lakermmtao11.cox.net@ip68-13-42-191.om.om.cox.net>; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:26:04 -0500 From: Ned Harrison To: Kris Kennaway Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:26:43 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501091947.46620.ned.woody@cox.net> <20050110021702.GA68470@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050110021702.GA68470@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501101826.43512.ned.woody@cox.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox with "Spinlock" error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:07 -0000 On Monday 10 January 2005 02:17 am, you wrote: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 07:47:46PM +0000, Ned Harrison wrote: > > I keep getting this error when I try to start Firefox: > > > > Fatal error 'Spinlock called when not threaded.' at line 83 in > > file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_spinlock.c (errno = 0) > > Abort trap (core dumped) > > > > I read from a November post that this was related to out of date files in > > the ~/.mozilla directory. > > No. It's related to being linked to multiple thread libraries, see > /usr/src/UPDATING. > > Kris Kris, are you sure you are not with obscurity.org? ;-) That's a mighty vague answer! At least to me. Your hint however was enough to get me to the right spot to get the problem fixed, though I had to cross referenced it with the November 10th erata note on the main FreeBSD web cite to be sure. Why I hadn't seen that erata note before now I don't know. Both the upgraded Mozilla and Firefox, PLUS my sound are now working. Now I just need to get my printer back on line. Then my upgrade to 5.3 will be complete. Thank you very much for the hint. I'm such a Newbie I didn't even know of the existance of the /usr/src/UPDATING file. I'll remember it now. Sincerely, Ned From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:26:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D7A16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53309.mail.yahoo.com (web53309.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54A7243D2D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from non_secure@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 66936 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2005 00:26:12 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=IGDzM6U1E7mEOk16Jw4Oguv+ZmUq0tvn+vKfpm72qoa95QWYsKG4xvNWzsONpn50RpRm2388zh21W7imxnpoqRXcY1tfwMyNEXOW/bP1+QUzkGt0U9Z4QNB35hirH94MWAX0wlVmsWfsN67BAQBNohh/s0CvcVpVnmHmnw5oJK8= ; Message-ID: <20050111002612.66934.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.186.91.245] by web53309.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:26:12 PST Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:26:12 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Schmoe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: switching key mappings on a laptop (function and ctrl) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:14 -0000 I have a new laptop that has the FN (function) key in the very lower left, and the CTRL key one key to the right of it ... but I like the CTRL key to be in the far lower left ... Is it possible to switch the function of these two keys (not just in X, but in the console, virtual terminals, etc.) thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:26:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E1616A4D0 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7556C43D2D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0B0QGSr084284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:26:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E31D14.9070509@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:25:56 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp References: <1105432635.638.34.camel@localhost> <41E31614.7080401@mac.com> <1105434903.849.10.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1105434903.849.10.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Guidance in my Internet Connection Sharing configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:26:28 -0000 Srot BULL wrote: > Thank you for the immediate response No problem, you are welcome. [ ... ] > Well, does this mean that I will not be able to share my internet > connection at home?...not a big problem though but it hurts!...I can > still just remove and insert the LAN cable to which PC I want to use and > get connected immediately...I only wanted to learn how to configure how > to share internet connection in LAN...and of course brag to my > girlfriend that my FreeBSD is simple and powerful than her MS > $...Hehehe... > Maybe I should be consulting my ISP for this one? Pay some bucks for > internet connection sharing? Your aDSL modem may cache the MAC address of the connected computer. You might be able to reset it by power-cycling it after connecting it to a different system, or your ISP may have hard-coded the MAC into it to discourage people from doing what you are doing. [ You may be able to work around such by using a broadband router which lets you configure the MAC address used for the WAN port to be the MAC of the system which works. ] > By the way, is my system clock wrong or yours? Your clock seems to be off. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:38:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2F116A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:38:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AF643D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:38:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0B0cnKu092397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:38:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E32005.2040403@mac.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:38:29 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp References: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> <1105435387.849.18.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1105435387.849.18.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:38:55 -0000 Srot BULL wrote: [ ... ] >>The simple answer is that the name your machine claims to be isn't registered >>in the DNS, which is normal for dynamic connections. You should either relay >>all email to the mailserver your ISP should have available, or you should >>configure your MTA to masquerade as a valid domain. >>The former is likely to better in terms of passing spam-sensitive mailers. > > Can I configure my system's sendmail to the above suggestion that you > wrote? Or am I stuck to using Evolution/Thunderbird with an SMTP setting > and not sendmail as my smtp server? [ ... ] Go to /etc/mail. Edit freebsd.cf (look for SMART_HOST), point it at your ISP's mail server. Do "make stop; make install; make start". You may have to twiddle some more, look at the Makefile there and: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html In particular, if your ISP requires your mailer to authenticate, you will need to twiddle the things called an access map for SMTP AUTH. :-) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:40:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829CE16A578 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:40:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A0B43D5E for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:40:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zparta@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so260795wri for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:40:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ISmPyBtTBPnDQ2MiTw3l2uAMzldiPI6JG9NdH+6v6WQxc+LGMELhraznCjGHMVCduAwEp91qfpoRuiWdbZR6zd7roRFrsQXdCE7EvFgj3UGo5WkodLCe6VNT4GpJCesLAFO9qJA1LoT1YJa3ghCe8MAcLqWOKpNIr9/0kA3Iqyc= Received: by 10.54.48.58 with SMTP id v58mr46493wrv; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.48.31 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:40:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3b41db850501101640373e8e36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:40:33 +0100 From: Jens Holmqvist To: Anil Gaddam In-Reply-To: <20050110220002.83109.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050110220002.83109.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jens Holmqvist List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:40:46 -0000 there is already a #freebsd on the freenode network and it is everything you want On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:00:02 -0800 (PST), Anil Gaddam wrote: > Dear FreeBSD team, > My name is Anil C. 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AIDS FOUNDATION > > ================================================== > Today AIDS had created over 14 million orphan children world wide. > Thats number of all children under 5 in america with no one to look after. > For more information please visit http://www.apathyislethal.org > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? > http://my.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:43:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD1516A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:43:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D439143D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:43:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E0905511C1; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:02 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ned Harrison Message-ID: <20050111004302.GA24750@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200501091947.46620.ned.woody@cox.net> <20050110021702.GA68470@xor.obsecurity.org> <200501101826.43512.ned.woody@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501101826.43512.ned.woody@cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Firefox with "Spinlock" error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:43:04 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 06:26:43PM +0000, Ned Harrison wrote: > On Monday 10 January 2005 02:17 am, you wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 07:47:46PM +0000, Ned Harrison wrote: > > > I keep getting this error when I try to start Firefox: > > > > > > Fatal error 'Spinlock called when not threaded.' at line 83 in > > > file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_spinlock.c (errno =3D 0) > > > Abort trap (core dumped) > > > > > > I read from a November post that this was related to out of date file= s in > > > the ~/.mozilla directory. > > > > No. It's related to being linked to multiple thread libraries, see > > /usr/src/UPDATING. > > > > Kris >=20 > Kris, are you sure you are not with obscurity.org? ;-) That's a mighty = vague=20 > answer! At least to me. One tires of answering the question verbosely after around the 47214'th tim= e ;-) Kris --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB4yEWWry0BWjoQKURAgPzAJ9eWJqxv72GAx7VbTQZb0t7j0iqjwCeIYUh z0oDPGqAMJ19bX5DtpavLHY= =8LDX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:50:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F1216A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:50:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web42102.mail.yahoo.com (web42102.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B835F43D55 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:50:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 73170 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2005 00:50:27 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=d4OMTu+Qvq6qXBdiq/xTT3IVn2C4mXVg/Lqol7L5cV3mRieLmIhmKBQP2mARaT/qxeMB/mQFIL3HjcQT7/E++ULkoVx5tHjG+BfvuGRtemO8e61bv6+66lE4ZpYH5ukbeMrwCinm/g5SRhmhMxE1o934W1O6897Y0BRF7IxNSAo= ; Message-ID: <20050111005027.73168.qmail@web42102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web42102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:50:27 PST Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:50:27 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole H To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Looking for SCSI RAID controller advice Please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:50:28 -0000 Hi I am looking for recommendations for a SCSI raid controller to use preferably with 5.3 instead of 4.X that can be monitored remotely. What do people use for their raid arrays so that they can verify that they are working ok without having to reboot a system? The only things I have found are the few Adaptec Cards with remote monitoring software that only work on 4.X. 10 Bonus points if it also works on AMD-64 Versions. Any help appreciatted. Thanks N. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 00:53:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5852216A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:53:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1641C43D4C for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:53:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keebler@mindspring.com) Received: from user-11faknj.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.245.82.243] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CoAIB-0006lQ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:53:51 -0500 Message-ID: <41E3237A.5070405@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:53:14 -0500 From: Carleton Vaughn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: growisofs killing every other DVD+R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:53:52 -0000 I'm new to this list and how to ask it for help, so please bear with me if I have omitted anything critical or have included too much or am in the wrong place entirely. I'm running: > sally# uname -a > FreeBSD sally.keebler.homeunix.net 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE > #3: Mon Dec 27 18:45:53 EST 2004 > root@sally.keebler.homeunix.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/C3 i386 And I recently installed a DVD burnerso that I could do system backups: > sally# dmesg|grep cd1 > acd1: DVD-R at ata1-slave PIO4 > acd1: DVD-R at ata1-slave PIO4 > cd1 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > cd1: 16.000MB/s transfers > cd1: cd present [1 x 2048 byte records] I know there are "better" backup solutions, but this system is for home use and I just want to get backups going. Eventually (e.g. as soon as I figure out how) I will be doing proper dumps, but for now I'm pouring things off into cd9660 filesystems. I've been using growfs > sally# growisofs --version > * growisofs by , version 5.19-1, > front-ending to mkisofs: mkisofs 2.0.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.10) to do all this, and for the first disk, it did just fine. The problem is the *second* disk: > sally# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd1c=farm5.iso > Executing 'builtin_dd if=farm5.iso of=/dev/pass1 obs=32k seek=0' > /dev/pass1: "Current Write Speed" is 8.2x1385KBps. > 0/3085238272 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? > 0/3085238272 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? > 0/3085238272 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? > :-? the LUN appears to be stuck writing LBA=10h, retry in 0ms > :-[ WRITE@LBA=80000010h failed with SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=08h]: Resource > temporarily unavailable > :-( write failed: Resource temporarily unavailable > /dev/pass1: flushing cache > /dev/pass1: closing track > /dev/pass1: closing disc When I take the ruined disk out, I can see the physical evidence of a short write, but the disk isn't mountable. The best part of all is that once I replace the ruined media and rerun growisofs, the new disk burns flawlessly. Just to taunt me. I am getting this result every single time. I know very little about SCSI but my theory is that some sort of state is being set on the device but not cleared before the next disk is attempted. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I will happily provide further information if you clue me on how to obtain it. Thanks. -- Carleton Vaughn College Park, Georgia, USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 01:13:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD15E16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:13:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D8D343D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:13:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mayday@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Jan 2005 01:13:18 -0000 Received: from 66-75-1-229.san.rr.com (EHLO localhost.localdomain) (66.75.1.229) by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 11 Jan 2005 02:13:18 +0100 X-Authenticated: #431110 From: Benjamin Sobotta To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp In-Reply-To: <1105432635.638.34.camel@localhost> References: <1105432635.638.34.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:13:26 +0000 Message-Id: <1105409606.649.25.camel@rr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Guidance in my Internet Connection Sharing configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mayday@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:13:20 -0000 Hello To make sure I understand, you can reach the internet from your router? So it is really a routing problem, right? The interface connected to the modem is bge0? aue0 is connected to your internal network?! Your internal machines can ping the router?? If everything is so then try natd_interface="bge0" instead of what you have. Actually I'm not sure at all because I'm not on my machine. Anyways, might be worth a shot. Ohh and don't forget to reboot after you did the changes. If this doesn't work I would try everything without all those firewall rules. Start out easy and when it works you can still add rule after rule. Always try pinging IPs because DNS might not work right away. HTH, Ben On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 08:37 +0000, Srot BULL wrote: > Hello and Good Day to all, > > I have tried to configure my system for Internet Connection Sharing but > I could not implement the configuration properly. I am afraid that this > is all my mind can figure out. Please look through below and I would > appreciate if you could point out the mistakes that I have done or point > me to any links that would help me help solve this problem. > > > uname -a > FreeBSD r40e.point.ne.jp 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #1: Mon Jan 10 > 12:49:58 > UTC 2005 root@r40e.point.ne.jp:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/R40e i386 > > Kernel Configuration File: > #===--- IPFIREWALL OPTIONS ---===# > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=5 > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > #=- Enables NAT Functionality -=# > options IPDIVERT > > /etc/rc.conf > hostname="r40e.point.ne.jp" > #** OutBound Interface **# > ifconfig_bge0="DHCP" > #** Internal LAN Interface **# > ifconfig_aue0="inet 10.20.30.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" > gateway_enable="YES" > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="aue0" > natd_flags="-dynamic -m" > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_script="/etc/ipfw.rulesets" > firewall_type="OPEN" > firewall_quiet="YES" > firewall_logging_enable="YES" > > This is my /etc/ipfw.rulesets: > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > #!/bin/sh > > ipfw -q -f flush > CMD="ipfw -q add" > SKIP="skipto 00800" > KS="keep-state" > INIC="bge0" > > $CMD 00005 allow all from any to any via aue0 > $CMD 00010 allow all from any to any via lo0 > $CMD 00014 divert natd ip from any to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00015 check-state > > $CMD 00020 $SKIP tcp from any to 192.168.0.1 53 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00021 $SKIP udp from any to 192.168.0.1 53 out via $INIC $KS > $CMD 00030 $SKIP udp from any to 192.168.0.1 67 out via $INIC $KS > $CMD 00040 $SKIP tcp from any to any 80 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00050 $SKIP tcp from any to any 443 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00060 $SKIP tcp from any to any 25 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00061 $SKIP tcp from any to any 110 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00070 $SKIP tcp from me to any out via $INIC setup $KS uid root > $CMD 00080 $SKIP icmp from any to any out via $INIC $KS > $CMD 00090 $SKIP tcp from any to any 37 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00100 $SKIP tcp from any to any 119 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00110 $SKIP tcp from any to any 22 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00120 $SKIP tcp from any to any 43 out via $INIC setup $KS > $CMD 00130 $SKIP udp from any to any 123 out via $INIC $KS > > $CMD 00300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00303 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00304 deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00306 deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00308 deny all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in via $INIC > #$CMD 00310 deny icmp from any to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $INIC > $CMD 00320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $INIC > $CMD 00321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $INIC > $CMD 00322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $INIC > $CMD 00323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $INIC > $CMD 00330 deny all from any to any frag in via $INIC > $CMD 00332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $INIC > > $CMD 00360 allow udp from any to 192.168.0.1 67 in via $INIC $KS > #$CMD 00370 allow tcp from any to me 80 in via $INIC setup limit > src-addr 2 > #$CMD 00380 allow tcp from any to me 22 in via $INIC setup limit > src-addr 2 > #$CMD 00390 allow tcp from any to me 23 in via $INIC setup limit > src-addr 2 > $CMD 00400 deny log all from any to any in via $INIC > $CMD 00450 deny log all from any to any out via $INIC > $CMD 00800 divert natd ip from any to any out via $INIC > $CMD 00801 allow ip from any to any > $CMD 00999 deny log all from any to any > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The problem with the above configuration is I do not get connected to my > ADSL Modem and no internet connection at all. "netstat -r" shows > nothing... > Are the configuration enough for me to configure my system for Internet > Connection Sharing or do I have to tweak other settings? > I would really appreciate any help, hints, or advices... > Thank you in advance... > > By the way, since this is my first try in Internet Connection > Sharing...I am not that sure with my cable connections... > My internal LAN Card "bge0" is connected to my ADSL Modem while my other > externel USB LAN Card "aue0" is connected to my switching hub...and the > other PC that I have is also connected to the hub...Is this O.K.? > > Srot BULL > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Benjamin Sobotta From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 01:32:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC9616A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:32:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB15243D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CoAtQ-000269-Hl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:32:20 -0900 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:32:20 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050111013220.GA7991@akroteq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: perl bsdpan install Text::Aspell problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:32:30 -0000 I am using FreeBSD 4.10 stable with the perl 5.8 port and can't install Text:Aspell. I need some help because I don't know much about bsdpan perl stuff. What am I doing wrong? I did this: perl -MCPAN -e shell install Bundle::CPAN with no problems.....but then I did this: cpan> install Text::Aspell CPAN: Storable loaded ok Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata Database was generated on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:53:12 GMT Running install for module Text::Aspell Running make for H/HA/HANK/Text-Aspell-0.04.tar.gz LWP not available CPAN: Net::FTP loaded ok Fetching with Net::FTP: ftp://archive.progeny.com/CPAN/authors/id/H/HA/HANK/Text-Aspell-0.04.tar.gz CPAN: Digest::MD5 loaded ok LWP not available Fetching with Net::FTP: ftp://archive.progeny.com/CPAN/authors/id/H/HA/HANK/CHECKSUMS CPAN: Compress::Zlib loaded ok Checksum for /root/.cpan/sources/authors/id/H/HA/HANK/Text-Aspell-0.04.tar.gz ok Scanning cache /root/.cpan/build for sizes Text-Aspell-0.04/ Text-Aspell-0.04/t/ Text-Aspell-0.04/t/test.t Text-Aspell-0.04/MANIFEST Text-Aspell-0.04/typemap Text-Aspell-0.04/Aspell.xs Text-Aspell-0.04/META.yml Text-Aspell-0.04/Aspell.pm Text-Aspell-0.04/Changes Text-Aspell-0.04/Makefile.PL Text-Aspell-0.04/README CPAN.pm: Going to build H/HA/HANK/Text-Aspell-0.04.tar.gz Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for Text::Aspell cp Aspell.pm blib/lib/Text/Aspell.pm /usr/local/bin/perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/ExtUtils/xsubpp -noprototypes -typemap /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap Aspell.xs > Aspell.xsc && mv Aspell.xsc Aspell.c cc -c -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -DVERSION=\"0.04\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.04\" -DPIC -fPIC "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/mach/CORE" Aspell.c Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_DESTROY': Aspell.c:98: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_create_speller': Aspell.c:125: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_print_config': Aspell.c:158: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_set_option': Aspell.c:194: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_remove_option': Aspell.c:230: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_get_option': Aspell.c:266: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_get_option_as_list': Aspell.c:309: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_errstr': Aspell.c:353: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_errnum': Aspell.c:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_check': Aspell.c:404: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_suggest': Aspell.c:448: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_add_to_personal': Aspell.c:497: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_add_to_session': Aspell.c:536: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_store_replacement': Aspell.c:576: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_save_all_word_lists': Aspell.c:614: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_clear_session': Aspell.c:652: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_list_dictionaries': Aspell.c:696: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_dictionary_info': Aspell.c:753: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_fetch_option_keys': Aspell.c:813: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Running Mkbootstrap for Text::Aspell () chmod 644 Aspell.bs rm -f blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.so LD_RUN_PATH="/usr/local/lib" cc -shared -L/usr/local/lib Aspell.o -o blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.so -laspell chmod 755 blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.so cp Aspell.bs blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.bs chmod 644 blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.bs Manifying blib/man3/Text::Aspell.3 /usr/bin/make -- OK Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/local/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/test....FAILED tests 16-17, 20 Failed 3/21 tests, 85.71% okay Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t/test.t 21 3 14.29% 16-17 20 Failed 1/1 test scripts, 0.00% okay. 3/21 subtests failed, 85.71% okay. *** Error code 2 Stop in /root/.cpan/build/Text-Aspell-0.04. /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK Running make install make test had returned bad status, won't install without force Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 01:33:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FE216A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:33:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A62F43D48 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:33:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED8121C8E4 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:33:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51514-19 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:33:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCCF21C8A9 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:33:41 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:33:18 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501101541.01854.kirk@strauser.com> <443bx8khsp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <443bx8khsp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1523246.AcjOhIQizS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501101933.40656.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: hdparm for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:33:43 -0000 --nextPart1523246.AcjOhIQizS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 10 January 2005 05:04 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > You mean like atacontrol(8)? > Or maybe you mean something more like tunefs(8)? Nope. atacontrol returns information about a drive's capabilities, but off= ers=20 no way to change the settings that affect them. Example: # atacontrol cap 2 0 [...] write cache yes yes read ahead yes yes dma queued no no 0/0x00 SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management no no 0/0x00 automatic acoustic management yes no 254/0xFE 128/0x80 shows that read ahead is available and enabled, but I don't have a way to t= urn=20 it off. tunefs only affects a filesystem's attributes but not the underlyi= ng=20 hardware. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1523246.AcjOhIQizS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB4yz05sRg+Y0CpvERAtX0AKCHJ3q6bNuHU+yrg3R9/SQx2tOVZACfSOqg LgXDueq1Nbqi6wpxX2q52BA= =oLDZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1523246.AcjOhIQizS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 01:50:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3751916A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:50:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A141143D48 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:50:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 25824 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jan 2005 01:59:22 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.68?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 11 Jan 2005 01:59:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <200501101933.40656.kirk@strauser.com> References: <200501101541.01854.kirk@strauser.com> <443bx8khsp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200501101933.40656.kirk@strauser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2F76D2B4-6373-11D9-BF52-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:50:35 -0600 To: FreeBSD_Questions FreeBSD_Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: hdparm for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:50:40 -0000 On Jan 10, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Monday 10 January 2005 05:04 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> You mean like atacontrol(8)? >> Or maybe you mean something more like tunefs(8)? > > Nope. atacontrol returns information about a drive's capabilities, > but offers > no way to change the settings that affect them. Example: > > # atacontrol cap 2 0 > [...] > write cache yes yes > read ahead yes yes > dma queued no no 0/0x00 > SMART yes yes > microcode download yes yes > security yes no > power management yes yes > advanced power management no no 0/0x00 > automatic acoustic management yes no 254/0xFE > 128/0x80 > > shows that read ahead is available and enabled, but I don't have a way > to turn it off. tunefs only affects a filesystem's attributes but not > the underlying hardware. "man ata" lists the sysctl for controlling write caching: hw.ata.wc set to 1 to enable Write Caching, 0 to disable (default is enabled). WARNING: can cause data loss on power failures. I don't know of any tool for setting the wc preference on a per-ata-drive basis for FreeBSD. Camcontrol allows setting the mode page on SCSI devices, which is where this task is performed in SCSI. IIRC there was some discussion of support for S.M.A.R.T. coming to FreeBSD, which seems like it would be the logical place for manufacturers to provide a control interface to their drive hardware. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 01:51:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F344116A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:51:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA5943D46 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:51:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so267154wri for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:51:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k97qxdx/o0zI5FwitSa/zfRO5cikR+P0GLN0K51fvRhivO900xfhZiJqpJVbJ7vOX4a5m3y97+F7GKc8FCQgLEmAXWUWb5B6LJjUd3ZwijzveDHRzSEYOadm6zvmVrITE2i5N5UGypr0l1Mj3Id1HHArITQ9mx9fVpu7HKxb7jg= Received: by 10.54.11.2 with SMTP id 2mr255771wrk; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.62 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:51:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:51:38 -0600 From: Gable Barber To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Onboard sound problem - FBSD 5.2.1 - Epox 8kta3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gable Barber List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:51:40 -0000 I recompiled kernel to include' options PNPBIOS ' ... per the Handbook. >From the motherboard manual: Epox 8kta3 motherboard VIA kt133a built in AC97 (by vt82c686b) output of uname : bash-2.05b$ uname -a FreeBSD home.localdomain 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Sun Jan 9 09:07:26 CST 2005 gable@home.localdomain :/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKERNEL i386 bash-2.05b$ output of dmesg : bash-2.05b$ dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Sun Jan 9 09:07:26 CST 2005 gable@home.localdomain :/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKERNEL Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0a35000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc0a351f4. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) processor (1403.19-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x644 Stepping = 4 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000 real memory = 872349696 (831 MB) avail memory = 837726208 (798 MB) Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00fde40 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0x6000-0x607f,0x5000-0x500f,0x4080-0x40ff,0x4000-0x407f,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib0: slot 7 INTD is routed to irq 11 pcib0: slot 7 INTD is routed to irq 11 pcib0: slot 7 INTC is routed to irq 12 pcib0: slot 13 INTA is routed to irq 11 agp0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib0: slot 1 INTA is routed to irq 10 pcib1: slot 0 INTA is routed to irq 10 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd000-0xd00f at device 7.1 on pci0 atapci0: Correcting VIA config for southbridge data corruption bug ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ata1: [MPSAFE] uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: Kensington Kensington USB/PS2 Wheel Mouse, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. uhub1: ORTEK ORTEK KH12 USB Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 3 uhub1: 3 ports with 2 removable, bus powered ukbd0: ORTEK USB Hub/Keyboard, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 4, iclass 3/1 kbd0 at ukbd0 uhci1: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 11 at device 7.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 7.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 7.5 (no driver attached) dc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xe9000000-0xe90003ff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:04:5a:7d:96:c5 miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0 port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 orm0:

Free Memory

MaxBytes[freemem]: 1000000 kMG[freemem]: k,M,G,T,P,X YLegend[freemem]: bytes ShortLegend[freemem]: bytes LegendI[freemem]: Free Memory: LegendO[freemem]: Legend1[freemem]: Free memory, not including swap, in bytes I get this in the snmpd.log file kvm_openfiles: Permission denied kvm_openfiles: /dev/mem: Permission denied I do see the file in /dev/mem ls -la mem crw-r----- 1 root kmem 2, 0 Jan 6 17:45 mem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 14:40:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC73E16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.speakeasy.net (mail2.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F05A43D31 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 6952 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2005 14:40:59 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Jan 2005 14:40:59 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 50E8B49; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:40:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Gene , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" References: <41E36115.6050003@Bomgardner.net> <41E3E02B.9080800@mindspring.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 11 Jan 2005 09:40:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <41E3E02B.9080800@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <44llb0hvut.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: High levels of breakin attempts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:40:59 -0000 Carleton Vaughn writes: > Gene wrote: > > Over the past few months there have been a remarkably high level of > > brute force attacks logged by sshd. I was wondering, is there a way > > that sshd (or some other package) can monitor login attempts and if > > more than say 5 or 6 attempts are made to login from a particular ip > > address, temporarily block that address (perhaps at the firewall)? > > It'd be real satisfying to just dump the attackers' packets to the > > bit bucket and slow 'em down a bit. > > Not that I'm an expert (and not that that's stopping me), but this can > be done by configuring sshd to use PAM and selecting a PAM module such > as pam_abl that can blacklist sites that send too many attempts. See > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/modules.html for examples. Always remember, however, to be careful that this doesn't open you up to an easy denial-of-service attack. If all somebody has to do is try to log in a half-dozen times to lock out the IP address they're connecting from, you may be making it possible for them to attack your operation without breaking into your machine. "5 or 6" login attempts doesn't remotely constitute a "brute force" attack. From what I've seen on my own machine, these attempts seem to be trying passwords from a particular Linux distribution that shipped with default passwords on a number of accounts. Sometimes it makes me feel better to lock out such "attacks," but I don't actually kid myself into thinking that I'm either improving my own security or inconveniencing the attacker noticeably. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 14:44:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B059516A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:44:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AE443D31 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:44:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keebler@mindspring.com) Received: from user-11faknj.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.245.82.243] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CoNFf-00074a-00; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: <41E3E5FA.4000808@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:06 -0500 From: Carleton Vaughn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:44:13 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris >>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:07 PM >>To: artware >>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs >> >> >>artware wrote: >> >>>Hello again, >>> >>>My 5.3R system has only been up a little over a week, and >> >>I've already >> >>>had a few breakin attempts -- they show up as Illegal user tests in >>>the /var/log/auth.log... It looks like they're trying common login >>>names (probably with the login name used as passwd). It takes them >>>hours to try a dozen names, but I'd rather not have any traffic from >>>these folks. Is there any way to blacklist IPs at the system >> >>level, or >> >>>do I have to hack something together for each daemon? >>> >>>- ben >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >>> >>Here's what I do - >> >>as root: route -nq add -host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 127.0.0.1 -blackhole >> >>To the attacker, it looks as if you dropped off the net. >> >> > > > This actually isn't the best advice since the incoming packets > from the attacker are still using up your bandwidth. > > It's best to report them and it's not hard to do it. There > are automated tools that will do it. As the CTO of an ISP > let me tell you that we get about 1 of those reports every > few months - that is how few people are reporting them - and > we look closely at every one of them. This isn't a situation > where the abuse departments of most ISP's are overflowing > with so many network abuse notifications that they aren't > interested in getting more of them. I've had these showing up in my auth.log since mid-December. Most of the time, my lookups have gone to domains registered in Elbonia and frankly I have my doubts about any administrators over there caring. The only Western abuse@ I found sent me an automated reply. I'm waiting to get one from Singapore---maybe I can get somebody caned... -- Carleton Vaughn College Park, Georgia, USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 15:20:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6098116A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:20:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749C943D2D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:20:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0BFK4P47762 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:20:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:20:04 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050111092004.A47739@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: How to back-rev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:20:06 -0000 I think I may have been too eager to go to Major Release 5 of FreeBSD. I'm having a lot of trouble with my laptop - with my WIFI cards freezing the system, and trying to make the swith from XFree86 to Xorg. Can you use the /stand/sysinstall "upgrade" to go backwards? What about filesystem formats? I know that FreeBSD 5 added some really cool filesystem capabilities, like snapshots - but did that make changes in the filesystem format? Thanks! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 15:22:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF81F16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:22:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp01.eresmas.com (asmtp05.eresmas.com [62.81.235.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1533943D39 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:22:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.54] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp01.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CoNqK-000613-E4; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:22:00 +0100 Received: from [80.103.13.4] (helo=[80.103.13.4]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CoNqK-0003OB-9e; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:22:00 +0100 Message-ID: <41E3EF66.7080508@wanadoo.es> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:23:18 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ramiro Aceves References: <41E3B2D0.6080005@wanadoo.es> In-Reply-To: <41E3B2D0.6080005@wanadoo.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-questions-en Subject: Re: Can not get Xorg work on S3 card [fixed] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:22:03 -0000 It works now!!! I fixed the problem telling where PCI card is on the xorg.conf file. I do not understand it cause I suposed that Xorg searched for it : BusID "PCI:0:8:0" Thank you very much. Ramiro Aceves From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 15:23:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DF816A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:23:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB5843D45 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:23:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so736750wri for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:23:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MF+jgJS+PgDAyZRySct2ORVumtM96CeV6YQKN3uxTjWDw7BOcOKUfaiH4reUHKbPg5+rMObmdalOEl3Gl9DcRhm4yZEX79Pa6lteIs75+V++m5KVNf1sNQG3N2gJnB3ld+I5S02YdTHXUQqwBwYVdULJoadm3lPylExOUS0aVuc= Received: by 10.54.20.45 with SMTP id 45mr36843wrt; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:23:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c30050111072388799@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:23:10 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: Looking for efficient way to make backup like ghost on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:23:11 -0000 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:37:31 +0000, eric wyzerski wrote: > I'm looking for an efficient way to make backup like ghost on windows. I > don't want to use utility like "dd" because it don't understand the file > systems and I want to make backup on a different hd (geometry and size). So, > anyone have a links for a good program that can do what I am looking for? dump(8) is good. A level 0 dump is a full image of a filesystem, and you can save dump output into a file for later use with restore(8). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=dump http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=restore Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 15:25:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD15316A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:25:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532E643D5D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:25:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:10080 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CoNu2-000Pne-7z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:25:50 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102941A9A7 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:25:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6071D3700E for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:25:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E3EFF2.60100@scii.nl> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:25:38 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050111092004.A47739@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111092004.A47739@starfire.mn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to back-rev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:25:51 -0000 John wrote: > I think I may have been too eager to go to Major Release 5 of FreeBSD. > I'm having a lot of trouble with my laptop - with my WIFI cards > freezing the system, and trying to make the swith from XFree86 > to Xorg. if i were you i would backup your data and try a fresh 5.3 install, one other thing to try first is to boot without ACPI From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 15:52:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D22516A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC6B243D1D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-32.tower-9.messagelabs.com!1105458769!16052065!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.5; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [193.130.89.132] Received: (qmail 30858 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2005 15:52:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ems-capmime.enterprise.capita.zone) (193.130.89.132) by server-32.tower-9.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2005 15:52:49 -0000 Received: from capitawemnt04.central.ad.capita.co.uk (unverified) by ems-capmime.enterprise.capita.zone for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:57 +0000 Received: by CAPITAWEMNT04.central.ad.capita.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:48 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Walker, Michael" To: "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Linksys WPC11 Wireless Card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:53 -0000 Hi I apologise for asking this, as I know for a fact this question has been asked before, however when searching the archives, I am finding conflicting answers. I have a Linksys WPC11 Version 4 wireless notebook adapter, and am wondering if anyone has successfully set this up using FreeBSD 5.3. I have read that Version 4 of the card uses a different chipset to previous versions and that this could cause some issues, how true is this? Also what options do I need to enable in my custom kernel, I read somewhere in the archives that I also need to disable some items in the kernel as well, could someone please elaborate? Thanks in advance. 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The Capita Group and its subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. *********************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 15:55:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B3216A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:55:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A2743D58 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:55:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keebler@mindspring.com) Received: from user-11faknj.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.245.82.243] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CoOMn-0001Sc-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:55:33 -0500 Message-ID: <41E3F6B5.50604@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:54:29 -0500 From: Carleton Vaughn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E36115.6050003@Bomgardner.net> <41E3E02B.9080800@mindspring.com> <44llb0hvut.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44llb0hvut.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: High levels of breakin attempts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:55:34 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Always remember, however, to be careful that this doesn't open you up > to an easy denial-of-service attack. If all somebody has to do is try > to log in a half-dozen times to lock out the IP address they're > connecting from, you may be making it possible for them to attack your > operation without breaking into your machine. An excellent point, although if they're doing this from their own, valid IP it seems they're DOSing themselves. > "5 or 6" login attempts doesn't remotely constitute a "brute force" > attack. From what I've seen on my own machine, these attempts seem to > be trying passwords from a particular Linux distribution that shipped > with default passwords on a number of accounts. Sometimes it makes me > feel better to lock out such "attacks," but I don't actually kid > myself into thinking that I'm either improving my own security or > inconveniencing the attacker noticeably. There's been discussion of this specific script around and speculation as to who patrick, rolo and horde are. Since the script isn't actually doing anything *clever*, it's probably not worth confronting with tools. I am, however, curious as to *how* to confront it with tools, on account of I have lots and lots to learn about security and have been relying more or less on the sensibilities of FreeBSD's default install. -- Carleton Vaughn College Park, Georgia, USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 15:57:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC0616A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:57:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.4nets.lv (126-4.zlt1.4nets.lv [217.199.126.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C887F43D1D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:57:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atissita@navigator.lv) Received: from localhost (4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F53FB3C023 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:55:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.4nets.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25680-03 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:55:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from [217.199.123.36] (unknown [217.199.123.36]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C80B3C022 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:55:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:01:38 +0200 From: zork User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at 4nets.lv Subject: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:57:38 -0000 To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules out system performance. Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:01:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8709D16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BFE43D4C for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:01:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwinner-lists@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [10.10.100.90] (unknown[216.113.237.29]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050111160055112008kqh2e> (Authid: duanewinner); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:00:55 +0000 Message-ID: <41E3F834.90208@att.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:00:52 -0500 From: Duane Winner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050104) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD mailinglist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bash version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:01:03 -0000 Hi all, I use bash instead of the default csh shell that is part of FreeBSD world. I am revising my in-house installation manual for FreeBSD 5.3, and it just came my attention that there is (actually has been I guess) bash version 3 available as a port. But FreeBSD appears to want to use 2.05b as the default. Does anybody know of any good reason why I should stick to 2.05b? I would like to use the latest stable version, but I don't want to go to version 3 if there are any issues that might bite me in the butt or if it will disrupt any other FreeBSD convention/issue that I don't know about. Looking at the the gnu bash site, I don't see any reason *not* to go to version 3, but I tend to let any FreeBSD considerations trump others when coming up with installation standards. Thanks for any info, cheers, DW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:13:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD43916A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:13:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193A443D2D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:13:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 50192 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2005 08:13:21 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Jan 2005 08:13:21 -0800 Message-ID: <41E3FB17.3070003@taborandtashell.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:13:11 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Duane Winner References: <41E3F834.90208@att.net> In-Reply-To: <41E3F834.90208@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:13:26 -0000 Duane Winner wrote: > Hi all, > > I use bash instead of the default csh shell that is part of FreeBSD world. > > I am revising my in-house installation manual for FreeBSD 5.3, and it > just came my attention that there is (actually has been I guess) bash > version 3 available as a port. > > But FreeBSD appears to want to use 2.05b as the default. > > Does anybody know of any good reason why I should stick to 2.05b? I > would like to use the latest stable version, but I don't want to go to > version 3 if there are any issues that might bite me in the butt or if > it will disrupt any other FreeBSD convention/issue that I don't know about. > > Looking at the the gnu bash site, I don't see any reason *not* to go to > version 3, but I tend to let any FreeBSD considerations trump others > when coming up with installation standards. > > Thanks for any info, > > cheers, > DW shells/bash (in ports) is now 3.0. Maybe there just isn't a (pre-compiled) package yet. I use 3.0 on my 5.3 system, and I am still using 2.05b on my 4.9 system. I haven't actually noticed any differences. -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:20:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24C916A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:20:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D39443D31 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050111162010.ZJPS4717.out011.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:20:10 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3536115EC for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32431-09 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AF8B811531; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:20:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:20:09 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:20:10 -0600 Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:20:13 -0000 On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers > for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. > > The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL > do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze > for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. > > At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, > however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. > > What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, > and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules > out system performance. > > Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ QOTD: "I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:25:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB18616A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:25:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41007.mail.yahoo.com (web41007.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B040743D2D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:25:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 30238 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2005 16:25:29 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ZTj3LlBHQZ1A8OtF9jdqIBWFozszBuHH2NbF2PQImsXy8/r42GQrSjRDkFDybNBf2+zEYgdjxqTuBkEvwmo7FMxXLBJylp2/YNmfoUJpGArb0TWpcP+pxyS9od/zyZtU/o7TdrDxlglN33EhuMfNnIe6UQ4ppWSFBhO3a/zxdvs= ; Message-ID: <20050111162529.30236.qmail@web41007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.164.186.108] by web41007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:25:29 PST Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:25:29 -0800 (PST) From: Joe To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050111023938.GA57410@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2 RELENG source fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:25:49 -0000 Thanks, That seems to have worked. Joe --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 06:23:10PM -0800, Joe wrote: > > Hmm, now 5.2.1 is having problems with config.h missing. > > > > > > > cd /usr/src > > > rm -rf contrib gnu > > > cat supfile > > *default host=cvsup6.freebsd.org > > *default base=/usr > > *default prefix=/usr > > *default release=cvs > > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > *default tag=RELENG_5_2 > > *default compress > > # this is all that is needed for the base system > > src-all > > ports-all tag=. > > > > > cvsup supfile > > > cd /usr/src > > > make buildworld > > > > ERROR as follows: > > > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/man/man > > cc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 > > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib -DSTDC_HEADERS -DPOSIX > > -DHAS_TROFF -DDO_COMPRESS -DCATMODE=0644 -c > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/man.c > > cc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 > > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib -DSTDC_HEADERS -DPOSIX > > -DHAS_TROFF -DDO_COMPRESS -DCATMODE=0644 -c > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.c > > cc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 > > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib -DSTDC_HEADERS -DPOSIX > > -DHAS_TROFF -DDO_COMPRESS -DCATMODE=0644 -c > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/glob.c > > cc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 > > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib -DSTDC_HEADERS -DPOSIX > > -DHAS_TROFF -DDO_COMPRESS -DCATMODE=0644 -o man man.o > > manpath.o glob.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/../lib/libman.a -lz > > echo Making man.1 from man.man > > gzip -cn man.1 > man.1.gz > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath > > make: don't know how to make > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/lib/config.h. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > > I can't see how gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/Makefile should be > trying to > build /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man/lib/config.h. Try > > cd /usr/src > make cleandir > make cleandir > > (yes, twice). > > Kris > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:30:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EFE16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:30:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net (lakermmtao02.cox.net [68.230.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B8343D4C for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:30:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050111163051.MQRA2202.lakermmtao02.cox.net@localhost> for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:30:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:30:51 -0500 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050111163050.GA56310@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050111073147.GA54487@kongemord.krig.net> <200501110737.j0B7bNXd032225@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501110737.j0B7bNXd032225@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Hosts.allow and netatalk/cups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:30:53 -0000 On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:37:23PM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > To my knowledge, the effects in /etc/hosts.allow are immediate as soon > as you save the modified file. > > And I have been using it that way for many years. > > No need to killall -HUP inetd, no need to reboot. > > If after a change the service is still not available: > > - you did not allow the right thing > > - the servcie would not be working even without tcp wrapper > > Try to add ALL : ALL : allow at the top of /etc/hosts/allow. Does the > service work? Then you made a mistake when trying to open tcp wrapper > for that specific service. Else the problem is not with tcp wrapper / > hosts.allow. Thanks for the comments, but changes to /etc/hosts.allow don't take effect until the system is rebooted. And when the system is rebooted, they definitely take effect. Two entries that take effect if and only if the system is rebooted: smbd : .krig.net : allow afpd : .krig.net : allow Commenting these out and saving the file has no effect. Rebooting the system stops Windows and Mac file sharing. Uncommenting them and saving the file has no effect. Rebooting the system restores Windows and Mac file sharing. uname -a FreeBSD kongemord.krig.net 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Sep 13 00 :17:04 EDT 2004 kongemord.krig.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KONGEMORD0 i386 Bob Hall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:31:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E3E16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:31:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF44A43D3F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:31:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chip.gwyn@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so344260wri for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:31:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Fs+YnEZFU/YMDxye+udbb5sop/ggdBzgl+XDXZPfrmIL2xYP9WwN5jbSmr4OH+dRrfmPVdutB9laeISOrl/dlGZUwhctdWXiYtLyfRlLKzYKSxTD33Urbb6yVNJ6m+8yNd8/DTOxUcv3M5mxg6QnyPm0FWbupU2J1L8vwow/OFQ= Received: by 10.54.56.38 with SMTP id e38mr11812wra; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.44 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:31:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64a8ad9805011108315b8a6e13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:31:40 -0500 From: chip To: jboadas In-Reply-To: <20050111133403.20082.qmail@web30004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050111133403.20082.qmail@web30004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cant join Irc - FreeBSD Channel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: chip List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:31:42 -0000 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:34:02 -0800 (PST), jboadas wrote: > Grettings every body. > > Im triyng to join the #freebsd channel in > irc.freenode.org an i get the follow messaje: > > * #freebsd :You need to be identified to join that > channel > > im new in irc if anyone can help me in this > shortcomming. > > Thank in advance. > > Jesus Boadas > Be aware however, from my experience, IRC should be a last resort for getting help. If you want to hang out and learn some cool stuff, that's encouraged. But if you begin asking questions that are covered in the handbook and easily found from google you're liable to get a negative response. It's best to lurk a while since you're new to irc to get the feel of things. And trust me, you will learn alot just listening in. --chip -------------------------------------------------------- Just my $.02, your mileage may vary, batteries not included, etc.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:39:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AA016A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:39:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9B443D41 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2]) j0BGddSe012475; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:39:40 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0BGdWpu030878; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:39:32 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "'Shane Ambler'" , "'FreeBSD Mailing Lists'" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:39:32 -0700 Message-ID: <003b01c4f7fc$20e4c7a0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) Subject: RE: ip address behind router ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:39:46 -0000 Shane Ambler wrote: > Looks to me that this page is not entirely accurate. (at least from > where I=20 > am) > It would appear to get a proxy server somewhere along the way. >=20 Yes this is true. If your behind a proxy or have a complicated network setup, this will fail. For most DSL/Cable modem customers this simple solution will work fine. These services are going to get the IP address of the last packet sent from the network. If you have more than one router, this will be the last router (NAT device) in your setup. It should work for most simple cases though. There are also some other web servers out there that offer this functionality. Just Google on external or outside IP and see if any of the other sites show any differences. > I would consider using the dynamic dns services - such as no-ip - and > use a perl script that updates then ping your dns name. Not sure if > they are more accurate that the below idea though. =20 >=20 That is an interesting idea. I would bet they may have the same problems with proxy servers and such but it would be worth a try. Good Luck, Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:40:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4002A16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:40:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yggdrasil.interstroom.nl (yggdrasil.interstroom.nl [80.85.129.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B5C43D41 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:40:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from o.greve@axis.nl) Received: from ip127-180.introweb.nl ([80.65.127.180] helo=[192.168.1.30]) by yggdrasil with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CoP3b-0002sk-00; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:39:47 +0100 Message-ID: <41E40157.1090702@axis.nl> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:39:51 +0100 From: Olaf Greve User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Interstroom virusscan, please e-mail helpdesk@interstroom.nl for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:40:15 -0000 Hi, > It's best to report them and it's not hard to do it. There > are automated tools that will do it. I would be very interested in setting up such a tool on my server as well. My passwords are not easy to guess, and root is not allowed to login anyways, and changes are extremely slim that someone will guess the one and only username/password combination that is actually allowed to SSH and to su -. Nonetheless, I find it annoying that some kids with nothing better to do download these stupid brute force tools in order to call themselves hackers. Duh! Therefore, I could well do without having 22,000 lines of failed attempts in my securityy logs (though as of late they haven't been that long), and I wouldn't mind reporting the critters to their ISPs. Does anyone have a good suggestion for such a tool? It would be cool if the tool could spot such brute force attempts, and when it sees e.g. more than 5 failed attempts from the same IP within say 5 minutes of time, it would blacklist the IP, and would automatically report the crack attempt to the ISP of the critters. Anyone? Cheerz! Olafo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:40:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD84E16A4DA for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:40:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kende.com (ns1.kende.com [66.17.131.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EA1943D3F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:40:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andras@kende.com) Received: (qmail 61021 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jan 2005 16:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a) (24.1.129.219) by ns1.kende.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2005 16:40:40 -0000 From: "Andras Kende" To: "'Shawn Guillemette'" , Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:40:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <41E3E53A.20509@metrocast.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcT364203EbdxN69QiuX+u8+9p/0nQADywgg Message-Id: <20050111164036.2EA1943D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: Mrtg question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:40:36 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Guillemette Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:40 AM To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mrtg question Im using net-snmp-5.2.1 with mrtg on a Alpha CPU. I want to monitor my memorry usage. However when I add the following to the mrtg.cfg file I find that SNMPD shuts down and I get these errors in the logs. I add this to mrtg.cfg LoadMIBs: /usr/local/share/snmp/mibs/UCD-SNMP-MIB.txt ### Memmory Target[freemem]:.1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.11.0&.1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.11.0:public@loc alhost Options[freemem]: nopercent,growright,gauge,noinfo Title[freemem]: Free Memory PageTop[freemem]:

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MaxBytes[freemem]: 1000000 kMG[freemem]: k,M,G,T,P,X YLegend[freemem]: bytes ShortLegend[freemem]: bytes LegendI[freemem]: Free Memory: LegendO[freemem]: Legend1[freemem]: Free memory, not including swap, in bytes I get this in the snmpd.log file kvm_openfiles: Permission denied kvm_openfiles: /dev/mem: Permission denied I do see the file in /dev/mem ls -la mem crw-r----- 1 root kmem 2, 0 Jan 6 17:45 mem _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Shawn, Try these OID: ucd/net - Memory - Buffers: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 ucd/net - Memory - Cache: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.15.0 ucd/net - Memory - Free: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0 http://www.kende.com/cacti/graph.php?local_graph_id=14&rra_id=all Andras Kende http://www.kende.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:42:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17DA16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:42:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A6F243D31 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:42:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mayday@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Jan 2005 16:42:04 -0000 Received: from 66-75-1-229.san.rr.com (EHLO localhost.localdomain) (66.75.1.229) by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 11 Jan 2005 17:42:04 +0100 X-Authenticated: #431110 From: Benjamin Sobotta To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050111090804.047088d8@mail.face2interface.com> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050111090804.047088d8@mail.face2interface.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:42:14 +0000 Message-Id: <1105465334.671.20.camel@rr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: unplanned reboot failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mayday@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:42:07 -0000 Hi! Hmm seems to me like your filesystem got damaged. No need to make boot floppies. What I would do is use a live CD and boot and then from there run fsck to repair. HTH Ben On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 09:18 -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > Four days ago I moved some stuff around on my /root dir; yesterday my box > rebooted itself... probably because of a power blink since other boxes did > the same. > > Now it won't reboot; the kernel starts, a msg display very quickly then I > get a box showing > > ------------- Message -------------- > Loading module aac.ko failed > Adaptec AAC RAID > ------------------------(100%)--------- > > When I past this box get a box saying > > ------------------------------------ Message -------------------------------- > Couldn't create directory /tmp/.doc: Read-only file system > ----------------------------------------------------------------(100%)--------- > > > What can I do from this point? Before this problem became apparent I > noticed that sendmail appeared to be gone from my system. I've apparently > messed up some critical paths, and wonder if it might be better to just > rebuild this sandbox from the mini-iso... just need to recreate the > bootable floppies in that case, right? > > Marty > > > Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 > Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml > Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Benjamin Sobotta From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:55:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415FF16A4CF for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:55:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DA543D46 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:55:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from Delliver.face2interface.com (zcbxaurj@inoc202-203.veranet.net [216.238.202.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id j0BGsJn4001370; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:54:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050111115112.048248f0@mail.face2interface.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:54:20 -0500 To: mayday@gmx.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <1105465334.671.20.camel@rr> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050111090804.047088d8@mail.face2interface.com> <1105465334.671.20.camel@rr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: unplanned reboot failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:55:22 -0000 At 12:42 PM 1/11/2005, Benjamin Sobotta wrote: >Hmm seems to me like your filesystem got damaged. No need to make boot >floppies. What I would do is use a live CD and boot and then from there >run fsck to repair. Thanks for the reply Ben. However I'm unable to boot from the mini-iso for some reason. Set cdrom to bootable from bios setup, and it won't take. I can set bios to boot from floppy and then it does, albeit tried a w98 floppy cuz don't have my fbsd floppies anymore. But, can I run fsck from the sysinstall screen? Because that's what I eventually get thrown into after those error msgs. Except nothing seems to worth viz. the "Couldn't create directory /tmp/.doc: Read-only file system" msg. Marty >On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 09:18 -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > > Four days ago I moved some stuff around on my /root dir; yesterday my box > > rebooted itself... probably because of a power blink since other boxes did > > the same. > > > > Now it won't reboot; the kernel starts, a msg display very quickly then I > > get a box showing > > > > ------------- Message -------------- > > Loading module aac.ko failed > > Adaptec AAC RAID > > ------------------------(100%)--------- > > > > When I past this box get a box saying > > > > ------------------------------------ Message > -------------------------------- > > Couldn't create directory /tmp/.doc: Read-only file system > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------(100%)--------- > > > > > > What can I do from this point? Before this problem became apparent I > > noticed that sendmail appeared to be gone from my system. I've apparently > > messed up some critical paths, and wonder if it might be better to just > > rebuild this sandbox from the mini-iso... just need to recreate the > > bootable floppies in that case, right? > > > > Marty > > > > > > Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 > > Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml > > Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >-- >Benjamin Sobotta > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 16:55:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C410816A4CF for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:55:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.4nets.lv (126-4.zlt1.4nets.lv [217.199.126.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278AE43D48 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:55:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atissita@navigator.lv) Received: from localhost (4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E70B3C022 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:53:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.4nets.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28206-09 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:53:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from [217.199.123.36] (unknown [217.199.123.36]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C78DB3C026 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:53:32 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:59:21 +0200 From: zork User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at 4nets.lv Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:55:22 -0000 well, yes. the module section looks like this: Section "Module" Load "freetype" # Load "xtt" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "type1" Load "speedo" EndSection Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > >>To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers >>for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. >> >>The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL >>do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze >>for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. >> >>At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, >>however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. >> >>What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, >>and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules >>out system performance. >> >>Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? > > > > Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? > > Lou From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:19:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6921816A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:19:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mr.tuwien.ac.at (mr2-n.kom.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.2.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5593643D41 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:19:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from webmail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (lps.ben.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.74.11]) by mr.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id j0BHJJ9N013905 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:19:19 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: V-webmail 1.5.1 ( http://www.v-webmail.co.uk/ ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:19:19 +0100 From: "Florian Hengstberger" To: FreeBSD mailinglist X-Vwebmail-Auth: e0025265@stud3.tuwien.ac.at X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/ empty directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:19:24 -0000 The directory: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release is empty! Why is this? Thanks Florian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:22:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EAF16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:22:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27AB43D58 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:22:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFB475138A; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:22:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:22:30 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Conover Message-ID: <20050111172230.GA98271@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050111104946.2038.qmail@rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050111104946.2038.qmail@rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CDROM of OpenOffice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:22:32 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:49:46AM -0000, John Conover wrote: >=20 > Is OpenOffice available for 5.3 on a CDROM? >=20 > I'm on a dial up, and its too big. I think bsdmall sells it, but I don't know. Kris --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5AtWWry0BWjoQKURAnLiAJ4tPZpco3C06EjSqHcjUc/His46hgCeKcZe U5KIxP6ShwweuOYHVetryhk= =KvoJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:22:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F9516A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:22:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DB543D39 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:22:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7600769266 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:22:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:22:52 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050111172251.GB47740@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:22:40 -0000 Next set of questions: Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or as a package? Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? What is the card def block in your X config? What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: "sysctl hw.nvidia" just in case)? Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just not be able to get it working. My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. NVidia GeForce FX5200. Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it working. Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. Good luck. Lou On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > well, yes. the module section looks like this: > > Section "Module" > Load "freetype" > # Load "xtt" > Load "extmod" > Load "glx" > Load "dri" > Load "dbe" > Load "record" > Load "xtrap" > Load "type1" > Load "speedo" > EndSection > > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > > > >>To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers > >>for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. > >> > >>The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL > >>do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze > >>for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. > >> > >>At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, > >>however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. > >> > >>What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, > >>and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules > >>out system performance. > >> > >>Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? > > > > > > > > Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? > > > > Lou > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Nick the Greek's Law of Life: All things considered, life is 9 to 5 against. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:24:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C55116A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:24:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D845B43D41 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:24:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0F24E51461; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:24:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:24:48 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Olaf Greve Message-ID: <20050111172448.GB98271@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41B857A0.2070906@leg.ensieg.inpg.fr> <41DE7DA3.8060206@axis.nl> <20050107132423.GA47763@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <41E3B040.4070709@axis.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DBIVS5p969aUjpLe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E3B040.4070709@axis.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libintl.so.5 issue when installing logrotate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:24:50 -0000 --DBIVS5p969aUjpLe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:53:52AM +0100, Olaf Greve wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I ran into a rather funny issue (fbsd 5.3-release, i386). >=20 > I have an updated ports tree (that is: twice per week cron updates it=20 > using cvsup). >=20 > Now, I tried installing /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate (make install) >=20 > O.k., it failed, mentioning that it required gettext version 0.13 or high= er. >=20 > No problem, just install that, right? > O.k., so I installed /usr/ports/devel/gettext (make deinstall, make=20 > reinstall) >=20 > All fine so far (it installef version 0.14.1). >=20 > Then I tried again to make install the /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate > and again it failed, this time the error is: > [...] > =3D=3D=3D> Building for logrotate-3.7_3 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found >=20 > Hmmm, no what can that be? > A quick look-up on Google shows:=20 > http://tomster.org/geek/freebsdcookbook/tidbits/gettextupgrade >=20 > Nice, a "chicken and the egg" problem: logrotate requires gettext 0.13=20 > or higher, but when installing that, apparently out goes a required=20 > library! Duh! It's probably some other binary that is missing libintl.so.5 (you probably yanked it out from underneath when doing a previous upgrade - if you'd used portupgrade, this wouldn't have happened because it saves copies of the old libraries in case they're still in use). gmake is a likely candidate; you'd need to rebuild it. The libchk port will tell you if any other applications need to be rebuilt. Kris --DBIVS5p969aUjpLe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5AvgWry0BWjoQKURAu28AKD3sG8jODVPHbJZVqduGh+jAOdGXgCgjBmL l2UHoqRyaeXgL9NF9wZgKu0= =aSJC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DBIVS5p969aUjpLe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:25:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A16D16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:25:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50ED543D1D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mayday@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Jan 2005 17:25:27 -0000 Received: from 66-75-1-229.san.rr.com (EHLO localhost.localdomain) (66.75.1.229) by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 11 Jan 2005 18:25:27 +0100 X-Authenticated: #431110 From: Benjamin Sobotta To: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050111115112.048248f0@mail.face2interface.com> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050111090804.047088d8@mail.face2interface.com> <1105465334.671.20.camel@rr> <6.2.0.14.0.20050111115112.048248f0@mail.face2interface.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:25:35 +0000 Message-Id: <1105467935.671.26.camel@rr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unplanned reboot failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mayday@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:25:34 -0000 Hi again. I'm not really sure whether you can run fsck from sysinstall. I never tried. But if I'm not mistaken there is something like an repair mode listed with an emergency shell. You might try that. Ben On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 11:54 -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > At 12:42 PM 1/11/2005, Benjamin Sobotta wrote: > > >Hmm seems to me like your filesystem got damaged. No need to make boot > >floppies. What I would do is use a live CD and boot and then from there > >run fsck to repair. > > Thanks for the reply Ben. However I'm unable to boot from the mini-iso for > some reason. Set cdrom to bootable from bios setup, and it won't take. I > can set bios to boot from floppy and then it does, albeit tried a w98 > floppy cuz don't have my fbsd floppies anymore. > > But, can I run fsck from the sysinstall screen? Because that's what I > eventually get thrown into after those error msgs. Except nothing seems to > worth viz. the "Couldn't create directory /tmp/.doc: Read-only file system" > msg. > > Marty > > >On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 09:18 -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > > > Four days ago I moved some stuff around on my /root dir; yesterday my box > > > rebooted itself... probably because of a power blink since other boxes did > > > the same. > > > > > > Now it won't reboot; the kernel starts, a msg display very quickly then I > > > get a box showing > > > > > > ------------- Message -------------- > > > Loading module aac.ko failed > > > Adaptec AAC RAID > > > ------------------------(100%)--------- > > > > > > When I past this box get a box saying > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Message > > -------------------------------- > > > Couldn't create directory /tmp/.doc: Read-only file system > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------(100%)--------- > > > > > > > > > What can I do from this point? Before this problem became apparent I > > > noticed that sendmail appeared to be gone from my system. I've apparently > > > messed up some critical paths, and wonder if it might be better to just > > > rebuild this sandbox from the mini-iso... just need to recreate the > > > bootable floppies in that case, right? > > > > > > Marty > > > > > > > > > Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 > > > Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml > > > Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > >-- > >Benjamin Sobotta > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 > Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml > Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal > -- Benjamin Sobotta From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:25:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F1016A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:25:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FB243D41 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:25:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 14AA75138A; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:25:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:25:40 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Florian Hengstberger Message-ID: <20050111172540.GC98271@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7gGkHNMELEOhSGF6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD mailinglist Subject: Re: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/ empty directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:25:42 -0000 --7gGkHNMELEOhSGF6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:19:19PM +0100, Florian Hengstberger wrote: > The directory: >=20 > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release >=20 > is empty! > Why is this? Removed to save space, since it's an old release that is no longer supported. Try a mirror (http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org) if you really need those packages. Kris --7gGkHNMELEOhSGF6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5AwTWry0BWjoQKURAuKMAJwJLTGuVgLCKUmCjTRx61Z2KwZDCQCg7mDS LeuQuM5CLYRgoxQl0GZ1jbg= =Rxak -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7gGkHNMELEOhSGF6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:26:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E1D16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:26:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6F943D1D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:26:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3CD895138A; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:26:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:26:32 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Duane Winner Message-ID: <20050111172632.GD98271@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41E3F834.90208@att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bjuZg6miEcdLYP6q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E3F834.90208@att.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD mailinglist Subject: Re: bash version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:26:33 -0000 --bjuZg6miEcdLYP6q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:00:52AM -0500, Duane Winner wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I use bash instead of the default csh shell that is part of FreeBSD world. >=20 > I am revising my in-house installation manual for FreeBSD 5.3, and it=20 > just came my attention that there is (actually has been I guess) bash=20 > version 3 available as a port. >=20 > But FreeBSD appears to want to use 2.05b as the default. FreeBSD uses whatever version of bash you tell it to (none are used "by default"). bash 1.x, 2.x and 3.x are available in the ports tree. Kris --bjuZg6miEcdLYP6q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5AxHWry0BWjoQKURAq8HAKDphplKlMurLGkcIcvrjGKOhGFH2ACgkiKM 27VhD+ooZjTJQEASYR9diHM= =Hy4E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bjuZg6miEcdLYP6q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:30:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A63416A4D6 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:30:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D509A43D3F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:30:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBA197773; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:30:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])j0BHTsTE029589; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:30:01 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41E40D0D.7060007@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:29:49 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041229) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florian Hengstberger References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFCE7B40ACCFA6B228546767E" cc: FreeBSD mailinglist Subject: Re: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/ empty directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:30:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFCE7B40ACCFA6B228546767E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Florian Hengstberger wrote: > The directory: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release > > is empty! > Why is this? Because the contents were deleted to make room for the 5.3-RELEASE and 5-STABLE package sets on the FTP sites. 5.2.1-RELEASE was a developer preview release, is known to be buggy and is no longer supported. (Part of "no longer supported" is "packages are not generally available on FTP sites"). Upgrading to 5.3-RELEASE-pN or 5.3-STABLE is highly recommended. 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=OvkMuoPrAWh4oAhfH8EaoTP5CGQbriEtN7VzfKuSkGaEPf0LUHOWEvK5f4qbJVR25dxBoRTOWCi93C//ewnKhIom6zdqatDSKEr6vGmofIQE14lhwjB95wPAkIgEc6d0WB2+Mq3U/MwOxotdsle+9aYa/o8QRpz2/WC9dJiHFac= ; Message-ID: <20050111174926.31163.qmail@web51010.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.147.160.231] by web51010.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:49:26 PST Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:49:26 -0800 (PST) From: faisal gillani To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: finding installation date ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:49:27 -0000 how can i find what date did i install my freebsd box ? thanks ===== *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:51:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FD916A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:51:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-dav12.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EB843D1D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:51:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from whitevamp47@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:51:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.102.125.195 by BAY103-DAV12.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:50:47 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.102.125.195] X-Originating-Email: [whitevamp47@hotmail.com] X-Sender: whitevamp47@hotmail.com From: "whitevamp" To: "Ramiro Aceves" , "freebsd-questions-en" References: <41E3A901.7040307@wanadoo.es> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:49:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2005 17:51:00.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C91B5A0:01C4F806] Subject: Re: Confirmed: 5.3 installation do not work with 16 MB RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:51:01 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ramiro Aceves" To: "freebsd-questions-en" Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:22 AM Subject: Confirmed: 5.3 installation do not work with 16 MB RAM > Hello FreeBSD friends. > > In previous post I told you that I was unable to install FreeBSD 5.3 in an > old Pentium 100 MHz and 16 MB RAM, with the three floppies (FreeBSD 4.10 > installs well). After the daemon screen, the system rebooted just before > loading the kernel. That strange behaviour made me try everything at the > boot loader prompt along several weeks, without success. In the floppies > directory of the 5.3 installation CDROM states that FreeBSD can be > installed with at least 8MB RAM: > > ************************ > 1.2 Hardware Requirements > > FreeBSD for the i386 requires a 486 or better processor to install and > run(although FreeBSD can run on 386 processors with a custom kernel) and > at least 8 megs of RAM to install and 7 megs to run. > *************************** > > I read on the internet that some people could not install FreeBSD 5.3 in > 16 MB, needing as much as 24 MB to success. I think I have confirmed that. > A couple of days before, I received from a friend another "fast machine" > ;-), it was a pentium 75 MHz with 32 MB RAM. I tried to remove the memory > bank from the pentium75 to the pentium100, but this kind of memory did not > work on the later one.( it did not like EDO RAM). :-( > > So I installed FreeBSD 5.3 on the Pentium 75 machine flawlessly, > everything went fine. Then I removed two 8MB banks, so that the machine > was 16 MB RAM. I tried the install floppies, and YES!!!, it rebooted > before the kernel load. > > So FreeBSD can not be installed with floppies and 16 MB RAM. I needs > more. How much? I do not know, 32MB work here, but I can not test 24 MB. > > I think the files on the manuals should be corrected to avoid this kind of > issues. > > Whell, that is the story, although I have not been able to get Xorg work > on this machine, but you will know that in the next post to the list. > > Thanks > Ramiro Aceves > snip i two had the same issues of not getting freebsd 4.9 , 4.10 or 5.3 installed and running with 16 meg of ram on an old 233 box that i whanted to use as a firewall/router .. so i put 32 in it and it works just fine with 5.3-stable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 17:54:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6EE16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:54:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf30.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf30.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AED843D2F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip24.cluster1.charter.net (mxip24a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.154])j0BHsBwA016892 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:54:12 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip24.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 11 Jan 2005 12:54:12 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,116,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="181149851:sNHT17401128" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-4-457314542" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:54:09 -0600 To: "Walker, Michael" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Linksys WPC11 Wireless Card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:54:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4-457314542 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 11, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Walker, Michael wrote: > Hi > > I apologise for asking this, as I know for a fact this question has > been > asked before, however when searching the archives, I am finding > conflicting > answers. > I have a Linksys WPC11 Version 4 wireless notebook adapter, and am > wondering > if anyone has successfully set this up using FreeBSD 5.3. > I have read that Version 4 of the card uses a different chipset to > previous > versions and that this could cause some issues, how true is this? > Also what options do I need to enable in my custom kernel, I read > somewhere > in the archives that I also need to disable some items in the kernel as > well, could someone please elaborate? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Mick Walker > NAAFI Finance International You're better off trying to find a version 3 card. I've, personally, never been able to get a ver 4 card working. You can find them on ebay for pretty cheap. Also, if you've got any friends that use the WPC11, and have had it for a year or so, there's a good chance you could just trade with them. Push comes to shove, let me know, I might have one I can sell you. I don't have an x86 lappy anymore, but I kept the ver3 card. I love my Powerbook, so I don't think I'll need the other card any time soon. HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-4-457314542 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHkEsEACgkQRAAY9knOW+pl2gCfeQBbyBmvHE9NIq3+luOVQVB0 WkAAn16O/1LEde4mstkMuJDZVzZpKp7p =C6BN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-4-457314542-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 18:20:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C59E16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:20:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.4nets.lv (126-4.zlt1.4nets.lv [217.199.126.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D07143D48 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:20:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atissita@navigator.lv) Received: from localhost (4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEC6B3C023 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:18:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.4nets.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04006-02 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:18:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from [217.199.123.36] (unknown [217.199.123.36]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6B9B3C027 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:18:33 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E419D6.4090107@navigator.lv> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:24:22 +0200 From: zork User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> <20050111172251.GB47740@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111172251.GB47740@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at 4nets.lv Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:20:25 -0000 well, Xorg -version says X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. the device section: Section "Device" Identifier "MyGeForce" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA" BoardName "GeForce4 MX 440" EndSection the sysctls: hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000017:0x00000000 hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest versions and see what happens then. Not so sure that it would help though :( One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating to agp. How is it enabled? Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > > Next set of questions: > Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or > as a package? > > Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from > ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? > > What is the card def block in your X config? > > What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: "sysctl hw.nvidia" just in > case)? > > Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last > week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems > there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just > not be able to get it working. > > My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. > My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. > NVidia GeForce FX5200. > Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. > Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports > Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. > > I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors > presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny > ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. > That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it > working. > > Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you > can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. > > Good luck. > Lou > > On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > >>well, yes. the module section looks like this: >> >>Section "Module" >> Load "freetype" >> # Load "xtt" >> Load "extmod" >> Load "glx" >> Load "dri" >> Load "dbe" >> Load "record" >> Load "xtrap" >> Load "type1" >> Load "speedo" >>EndSection >> >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >> >>>On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>> >>> >>>>To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers >>>>for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. >>>> >>>>The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL >>>>do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze >>>>for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. >>>> >>>>At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, >>>>however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. >>>> >>>>What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, >>>>and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules >>>>out system performance. >>>> >>>>Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? >>> >>> >>> >>>Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? >>> >>>Lou >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 18:24:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F4616A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:24:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7433243D2D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:24:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8767856458; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:24:57 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:24:57 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: faisal gillani Message-ID: <20050111182457.GA856@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050111174926.31163.qmail@web51010.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050111174926.31163.qmail@web51010.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: finding installation date ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:24:59 -0000 On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:49:26AM -0800, faisal gillani wrote: > how can i find what date did i install my freebsd box The date of the files in /rescue will tell you the date of your last installation or installworld. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older, it starts avoiding you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 18:33:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A7F16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:33:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2E043D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwinner-lists@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [10.10.100.90] (unknown[216.113.237.29]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050111183310113000jh46e> (Authid: duanewinner); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:33:11 +0000 Message-ID: <41E41BE5.6020303@att.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:33:09 -0500 From: Duane Winner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050104) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD mailinglist References: <41E3F834.90208@att.net> <20050111172632.GD98271@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111172632.GD98271@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:33:20 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:00:52AM -0500, Duane Winner wrote: > > >>Hi all, >> >>I use bash instead of the default csh shell that is part of FreeBSD world. >> >>I am revising my in-house installation manual for FreeBSD 5.3, and it >>just came my attention that there is (actually has been I guess) bash >>version 3 available as a port. >> >>But FreeBSD appears to want to use 2.05b as the default. >> >> > >FreeBSD uses whatever version of bash you tell it to (none are used >"by default"). bash 1.x, 2.x and 3.x are available in the ports tree. > > If you install from port, then yes, all three are available and you have to choose. But up until now, we have always installed bash (and emacs) as "additional packages" during the initial CD installation, and it was always version 2.05 that ended up being installed. I'm changing our procedures so that we have "cleaner" installations, and not installing bash or emacs during the install anymore, but rather as the first ports we install after a our intial cvsup, in an effort to get rid of dependency conflicts (primarly expat) that need special instructions. That's when I discovered that there was a version 3 of bash available. >Kris > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 18:35:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A0B16A4EB for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:35:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail.idea-anvil.net (idea-anvil.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3815543D39 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:35:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) Received: from idea-anvil.net (vaio [10.0.0.99]) by jail.idea-anvil.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0BIZk2C050013 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:35:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) From: aksis Organization: idea-anvil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:35:44 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501111135.45529.aksis@idea-anvil.net> Subject: KDE: Konqueror - LAN Browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:35:48 -0000 Hi, When I use konqueror in su mode, I have access to the "+LAN Browser", in the side pannel and am able to brows the network, but it is non-existant as a normal user. How do I fix this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 18:36:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103EF16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:36:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9CF43D2D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:36:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so751878wri for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:36:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CvTWHbS2ys/SJbDpSGxYw4uyPWFBAxY6JE5zKmlU2Z1dUeZy2Bxn7l9/X9ZZaFTciBZsHoWwUKtQ+jJtCF8W1H4PcHh2TCfXgO34+Jeu8I2ulVJqhKo4QHDB/m1kbJJgsNJ+8lQ2xhBTTiLqrUAmcHGxSQvPizMr3H4S4bNV52I= Received: by 10.54.20.45 with SMTP id 45mr133316wrt; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:36:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c30050111103669af05e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:36:46 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050111044742.GA90081@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35de0c3005010510582e3738fb@mail.gmail.com> <35de0c3005011019476b7b8e1c@mail.gmail.com> <20050111044742.GA90081@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-R, postfix smtp dying with sig11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:36:48 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:47:44 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:47:24PM -0500, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > > > So... what could cause this? Is the sig 11 causing the failure, or is > > master killing off smtp as a result of some other issue? Anything I > > can poke at? > > Usually hardware failure. Consult the mailing list archives > or google for extensive discussion. If it was hardware failure I'd expect to see sig11's elsewhere -- I've never seen anything else sig11 on the box except postfix smtp processes, including repeatedly building world and kernel and dozens of other ports (it's a jail system, so I build package updates on the host OS and deploy them to the jails). I suspected yesterday that the problem might be controller write cache and softupdates combining to return success on writes before the data actually hit the drives, which could cause a short read of the on-disk queue file if it was accessed before the write completed. But I disabled the controller cache using the tw_cli command and I'm still seeing the same thing (unless tw_cli isn't really disabling all the write caching and I need to do something in the controller BIOS). I've also tried running a non-SMP kernel (it's a HTT system), but that didn't help. I'll try disabling APIC/ACPI today (which will of course also kill SMP) and see if that helps. Thanks, Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 18:50:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F234116A4CF for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:50:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C3343D2F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:50:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BB1EA69269 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:51:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:51:09 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050111185109.GD47740@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> <20050111172251.GB47740@keyslapper.org> <41E419D6.4090107@navigator.lv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E419D6.4090107@navigator.lv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:50:58 -0000 Ok, according to your sysctls, you aren't getting the AGP acceleration at all. Try adding these lines to your card device section: Option "RenderAccel" "True" Option "NvAGP" "1" # Use NVIDIAs agp Then restart X. Check your hw.nvidia.agp sysctls, particularly these: hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) You want status to be enabled, and rate to be 2x or 4x. >From the sysctls below, it looks like the NvAGP setting is already turned on, so that appears to be a default. Since it's still not working, I suspect that if you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for warnings (WW) or errors (EE) related to AGP use, you'll find something about the native FreeBSD AGP. If you are using a GENERIC kernel ("uname -a" will tell you), that's almost certainly what's happening. >From what I've read, the native FreeBSD AGP doesn't always work with NVidia cards. You'll have to compile a custom kernel with the following line removed: device agp Check here for details: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Also, I'd recommend updating your ports and upgrading Xorg. You might also want to build and install the x11/nvidia-drivers port. Lou On 01/11/05 08:24 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > well, Xorg -version says > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 > > I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. > > I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. > > the device section: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "MyGeForce" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "NVIDIA" > BoardName "GeForce4 MX 440" > EndSection > > the sysctls: > > hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x > hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported > hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported > hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000017:0x00000000 > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) > hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) > hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) > hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 > Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP > > kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. > > I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. > > As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature > which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? > > Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest > versions and see what happens then. > Not so sure that it would help though :( > > One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating > to agp. How is it enabled? > > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > > > > > Next set of questions: > > Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or > > as a package? > > > > Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from > > ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? > > > > What is the card def block in your X config? > > > > What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: "sysctl hw.nvidia" just in > > case)? > > > > Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last > > week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems > > there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just > > not be able to get it working. > > > > My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. > > My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. > > NVidia GeForce FX5200. > > Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. > > Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports > > Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. > > > > I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors > > presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny > > ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. > > That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it > > working. > > > > Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you > > can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. > > > > Good luck. > > Lou > > > > On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > > > >>well, yes. the module section looks like this: > >> > >>Section "Module" > >> Load "freetype" > >> # Load "xtt" > >> Load "extmod" > >> Load "glx" > >> Load "dri" > >> Load "dbe" > >> Load "record" > >> Load "xtrap" > >> Load "type1" > >> Load "speedo" > >>EndSection > >> > >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: > >> > >>>On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > >>> > >>> > >>>>To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers > >>>>for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. > >>>> > >>>>The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL > >>>>do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze > >>>>for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. > >>>> > >>>>At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, > >>>>however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. > >>>> > >>>>What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, > >>>>and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules > >>>>out system performance. > >>>> > >>>>Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? > >>> > >>>Lou > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ The solution of this problem is trivial and is left as an exercise for the reader. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 19:18:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C6D16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:18:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A57A43D48 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:18:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <200501111918010110037lq3e>; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:18:01 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.16] (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.16]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F341460C6 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:18:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E4266A.2020307@trini0.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:18:02 -0500 From: Gerard Samuel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NFS & File Locking on FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:18:08 -0000 Whats needed to enable file locking on FBSD 5.3? I already had NFS running, so I added this to the server's rc.conf file -> rpc_lockd_enable="YES" and rebooted. Im just checking to see if that is all that I should be doing. Thanks for your time From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 19:38:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6CF16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:38:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail.idea-anvil.net (idea-anvil.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9417843D45 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:38:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) Received: from idea-anvil.net (vaio [10.0.0.99]) by jail.idea-anvil.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0BJcI0P050397 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:38:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) From: aksis@idea-anvil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:38:15 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501111135.45529.aksis@idea-anvil.net> In-Reply-To: <200501111135.45529.aksis@idea-anvil.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501111238.16778.aksis@idea-anvil.net> Subject: Re: KDE: Konqueror - LAN Browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:38:19 -0000 On Tuesday 11 January 2005 11:35 am, aksis wrote: > Hi, > > When I use konqueror in su mode, I have access to the "+LAN Browser", in > the side pannel and am able to brows the network, but it is non-existant as > a normal user. How do I fix this? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I fixed this. I had to delete ~/.kde When I restarted xorg it worked. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 19:59:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A148716A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:59:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D3F43D2F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micologist@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so138807rnz for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:59:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CsTypQE1FQA8oat8ZQNW1tuJ9bkDjMAqMnkcNZoKIBLsAZKRHj4Qdj4PbsbgLt4dUEq2qk8qm7WTJjEJplwCpoTGl+IhNAb7fusAnJGnTDrYywFjCPBjee8KUNl/Cft2UwBMKWHQHdf8smovxmj9zOStMUvIuvf83EK7NExQh+s= Received: by 10.38.19.34 with SMTP id 34mr257570rns; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.51 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:59:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7227803f0501111159441f770c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:59:45 -0500 From: David Vincelli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Windows XP disappears from Workgroup (Net Hood) w/ Samba + WINS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Vincelli List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:59:46 -0000 I have a funny situation where Windows XP (Home) computers appear briefly under Network Neighbourhood (View All Computers in Workgroup under XP) and disappear throughout the day. Win95/Win98 and Samba boxes are always available, only Windows XP Home disappear. The boxes are still online, and I can still access them using the \\name\share notation (UNC). I have a feeling they are not announcing themselves on the network as they are supposed to. How do I get them to announce themselves. I tried making the samba server the prefered and local master (and WINS server - dished out by DHCP) but that didn't help. I can't figure this one out. Is there some packet I can craft and throw on the wire to force all these computers to announce themselves? -OR- can I modify/add a windows services on the XP boxes -OR- add a registry key. -- David Vincelli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 20:26:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E05116A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:26:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.4nets.lv (126-4.zlt1.4nets.lv [217.199.126.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FA543D31 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:26:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atissita@navigator.lv) Received: from localhost (4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD02B3C480 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:24:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.4nets.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23841-01 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:24:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from [217.199.123.36] (unknown [217.199.123.36]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id A527BB3C200 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:24:17 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E43722.1090204@navigator.lv> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:29:22 +0200 From: zork User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> <20050111172251.GB47740@keyslapper.org> <41E419D6.4090107@navigator.lv> <20050111185109.GD47740@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111185109.GD47740@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at 4nets.lv Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:26:06 -0000 ok.. even though there wasn't anything useful in the Xorg logfile, after recompiling the kernel i get: hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 4x hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: disabled Now this almost doubles the frame rates, which is nice to see :) Alas, the problem still remains :( Will try upgrading everything tomorrow.. Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Ok, according to your sysctls, you aren't getting the AGP acceleration > at all. > > Try adding these lines to your card device section: > Option "RenderAccel" "True" > Option "NvAGP" "1" # Use NVIDIAs agp > > Then restart X. > > Check your hw.nvidia.agp sysctls, particularly these: > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) > > You want status to be enabled, and rate to be 2x or 4x. > >>From the sysctls below, it looks like the NvAGP setting is already > turned on, so that appears to be a default. > > Since it's still not working, I suspect that if you check your > /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for warnings (WW) or errors (EE) related to AGP > use, you'll find something about the native FreeBSD AGP. If you are > using a GENERIC kernel ("uname -a" will tell you), that's almost > certainly what's happening. > >>From what I've read, the native FreeBSD AGP doesn't always work with > NVidia cards. You'll have to compile a custom kernel with the following > line removed: > device agp > Check here for details: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > Also, I'd recommend updating your ports and upgrading Xorg. You might > also want to build and install the x11/nvidia-drivers port. > > Lou > > On 01/11/05 08:24 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > >>well, Xorg -version says >>X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 >> >>I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. >> >>I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. >> >>the device section: >> >>Section "Device" >> Identifier "MyGeForce" >> Driver "nvidia" >> VendorName "NVIDIA" >> BoardName "GeForce4 MX 440" >>EndSection >> >>the sysctls: >> >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000017:0x00000000 >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) >>hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 >>Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 >>hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 >>hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 >>hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 >>hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 >>hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 >>hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 >>hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 >>hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 >>hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP >> >>kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. >> >>I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. >> >>As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature >>which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? >> >>Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest >>versions and see what happens then. >>Not so sure that it would help though :( >> >>One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating >>to agp. How is it enabled? >> >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>Next set of questions: >>>Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or >>>as a package? >>> >>>Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from >>>ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? >>> >>>What is the card def block in your X config? >>> >>>What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: "sysctl hw.nvidia" just in >>>case)? >>> >>>Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last >>>week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems >>>there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just >>>not be able to get it working. >>> >>>My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. >>> My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. >>> NVidia GeForce FX5200. >>> Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. >>> Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports >>> Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. >>> >>>I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors >>>presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny >>>ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. >>>That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it >>>working. >>> >>>Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you >>>can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. >>> >>>Good luck. >>>Lou >>> >>>On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>> >>> >>>>well, yes. the module section looks like this: >>>> >>>>Section "Module" >>>> Load "freetype" >>>> # Load "xtt" >>>> Load "extmod" >>>> Load "glx" >>>> Load "dri" >>>> Load "dbe" >>>> Load "record" >>>> Load "xtrap" >>>> Load "type1" >>>> Load "speedo" >>>>EndSection >>>> >>>>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers >>>>>>for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. >>>>>> >>>>>>The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL >>>>>>do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze >>>>>>for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. >>>>>> >>>>>>At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, >>>>>>however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. >>>>>> >>>>>>What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, >>>>>>and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules >>>>>>out system performance. >>>>>> >>>>>>Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? >>>>> >>>>>Lou >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 20:32:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326D516A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:32:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9702143D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:32:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D56D769266 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:32:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:32:22 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050111203221.GI47740@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> <20050111172251.GB47740@keyslapper.org> <41E419D6.4090107@navigator.lv> <20050111185109.GD47740@keyslapper.org> <41E43722.1090204@navigator.lv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41E43722.1090204@navigator.lv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:32:10 -0000 On 01/11/05 10:29 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > ok.. even though there wasn't anything useful in the Xorg logfile, > after recompiling the kernel i get: > > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 4x > hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: disabled > > Now this almost doubles the frame rates, which is nice to see :) Most Excellent Dude. > Alas, the problem still remains :( Totally Bogus. What app are you getting the hinky video from? > Will try upgrading everything tomorrow.. Most Righteous. Just make sure you get all the dependencies when you do. Good luck Lou > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > Ok, according to your sysctls, you aren't getting the AGP acceleration > > at all. > > > > Try adding these lines to your card device section: > > Option "RenderAccel" "True" > > Option "NvAGP" "1" # Use NVIDIAs agp > > > > Then restart X. > > > > Check your hw.nvidia.agp sysctls, particularly these: > > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled > > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) > > > > You want status to be enabled, and rate to be 2x or 4x. > > > >>From the sysctls below, it looks like the NvAGP setting is already > > turned on, so that appears to be a default. > > > > Since it's still not working, I suspect that if you check your > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for warnings (WW) or errors (EE) related to AGP > > use, you'll find something about the native FreeBSD AGP. If you are > > using a GENERIC kernel ("uname -a" will tell you), that's almost > > certainly what's happening. > > > >>From what I've read, the native FreeBSD AGP doesn't always work with > > NVidia cards. You'll have to compile a custom kernel with the following > > line removed: > > device agp > > Check here for details: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > > > Also, I'd recommend updating your ports and upgrading Xorg. You might > > also want to build and install the x11/nvidia-drivers port. > > > > Lou > > > > On 01/11/05 08:24 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > > > >>well, Xorg -version says > >>X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 > >> > >>I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. > >> > >>I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. > >> > >>the device section: > >> > >>Section "Device" > >> Identifier "MyGeForce" > >> Driver "nvidia" > >> VendorName "NVIDIA" > >> BoardName "GeForce4 MX 440" > >>EndSection > >> > >>the sysctls: > >> > >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x > >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported > >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported > >>hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000017:0x00000000 > >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled > >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) > >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) > >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) > >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) > >>hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 > >>Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 > >>hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 > >>hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 > >>hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 > >>hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 > >>hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP > >> > >>kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. > >> > >>I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. > >> > >>As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature > >>which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? > >> > >>Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest > >>versions and see what happens then. > >>Not so sure that it would help though :( > >> > >>One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating > >>to agp. How is it enabled? > >> > >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>Next set of questions: > >>>Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or > >>>as a package? > >>> > >>>Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from > >>>ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? > >>> > >>>What is the card def block in your X config? > >>> > >>>What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: "sysctl hw.nvidia" just in > >>>case)? > >>> > >>>Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last > >>>week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems > >>>there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just > >>>not be able to get it working. > >>> > >>>My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. > >>> My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. > >>> NVidia GeForce FX5200. > >>> Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. > >>> Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports > >>> Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. > >>> > >>>I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors > >>>presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny > >>>ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. > >>>That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it > >>>working. > >>> > >>>Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you > >>>can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. > >>> > >>>Good luck. > >>>Lou > >>> > >>>On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > >>> > >>> > >>>>well, yes. the module section looks like this: > >>>> > >>>>Section "Module" > >>>> Load "freetype" > >>>> # Load "xtt" > >>>> Load "extmod" > >>>> Load "glx" > >>>> Load "dri" > >>>> Load "dbe" > >>>> Load "record" > >>>> Load "xtrap" > >>>> Load "type1" > >>>> Load "speedo" > >>>>EndSection > >>>> > >>>>Louis LeBlanc wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers > >>>>>>for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL > >>>>>>do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze > >>>>>>for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, > >>>>>>however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, > >>>>>>and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules > >>>>>>out system performance. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? > >>>>> > >>>>>Lou > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Genderplex, n.: The predicament of a person in a restaurant who is unable to determine his or her designated restroom (e.g., turtles and tortoises). -- Rich Hall, "Sniglets" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 20:38:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5229616A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:38:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF48C43D54 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:38:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050111203804011003elq8e>; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.16] (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.16]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910EF60F4 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:38:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E4392D.6060500@trini0.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:38:05 -0500 From: Gerard Samuel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <41E4266A.2020307@trini0.org> In-Reply-To: <41E4266A.2020307@trini0.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NFS & File Locking on FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:38:10 -0000 Gerard Samuel wrote: > Whats needed to enable file locking on FBSD 5.3? > I already had NFS running, so I added this to the > server's rc.conf file -> > rpc_lockd_enable="YES" > and rebooted. > Im just checking to see if that is all that I should be doing. > Thanks for your time I just noticed this in the logs -> Jan 11 15:23:37 hivemind rpcbind: cannot create socket for udp6 Jan 11 15:23:38 hivemind rpc.lockd: 100024 RPC: Program not registered I've googled a bit, and Im coming up with references that IP6 doesn't have to built into the kernel, of which I do not have it built in the kernel anyway. Im not sure of what else to do to get lockd running. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks Here is my rc.conf file ----- defaultrouter="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" hostname="name.domain.tld" ifconfig_bge0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0" keyrate="fast" sshd_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="NONE" inetd_enable="YES" mysql_enable="YES" apache2_enable="YES" ntpd_enable="YES" ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g" samba_enable="YES" rpcbind_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" mountd_flags="-r" rpc_lockd_enable="YES" Here is my kernel config ------ machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident HIVEMIND options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=8000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI # PostgreSQL stuff options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options SHMMAXPGS=65536 options SEMMNI=40 options SEMMNS=240 options SEMUME=40 options SEMMNU=120 options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # Bus support. Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots device isa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device da # Direct Access (disks) device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device vga # VGA video card driver # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device ccd # Concatenated disk driver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 20:45:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469F316A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:45:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065d14.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065d14.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2141E43D2F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:45:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beaverm@corp.earthlink.net) Received: from eocpc16.noc.earthlink.net ([207.69.180.50] helo=EOCPC16) by pop-a065d14.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CoStf-0003SW-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:45:47 -0800 From: "Mark Beaver" To: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:45:38 -0500 Message-ID: <0ecb01c4f81e$857a5230$32b445cf@EOCPC16> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <7227803f0501111159441f770c@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: Samba server (freebsd 5.2.1) and clients not able to communicate. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:45:48 -0000 I have several windows based clients that work perfectly fine. However, linux based machines (FC3 and Slackware 10) all give Error in cp Input/Output error. I can mount them fine, browse folders, but copying to and from it gets that error, googling doesn't get me anything, and I've disabled iptables on the linux machine. Has anyone seen this? Thanks, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 20:48:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D57A16A502 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:48:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7E943D55 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:48:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956C4FD022; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:48:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E43B96.7070801@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:48:22 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerard Samuel References: <41E4266A.2020307@trini0.org> <41E4392D.6060500@trini0.org> In-Reply-To: <41E4392D.6060500@trini0.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: NFS & File Locking on FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:48:25 -0000 Gerard Samuel wrote: > Gerard Samuel wrote: > >> Whats needed to enable file locking on FBSD 5.3? >> I already had NFS running, so I added this to the >> server's rc.conf file -> >> rpc_lockd_enable="YES" >> and rebooted. > > I just noticed this in the logs -> > Jan 11 15:23:37 hivemind rpcbind: cannot create socket for udp6 > Jan 11 15:23:38 hivemind rpc.lockd: 100024 RPC: Program not registered > > I've googled a bit, and Im coming up with references that > IP6 doesn't have to built into the kernel, of which I do not have it > built in the kernel anyway. > Im not sure of what else to do to get lockd running. Well, I guess google haven't searched the archives resently. I wrote just yesterday (NFS export of evolution-thread) that you need to enable statd _and_ lockd. lockd will not start without statd enabled. You don't need to reboot, just /etc/rc.d/nfslocking restart > rpcbind_enable="YES" > nfs_server_enable="YES" > mountd_flags="-r" > rpc_lockd_enable="YES" I don't see you have enabled mountd, but you had nfs running and mounted succesfully? - or maybe just a typo copy/paste? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 20:52:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E929A16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:52:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723C943D31 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:52:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so19055rne for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:52:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gsb2gKH6rCEt6ciQ93qW9AeP+X6OK7i4B92fjJ6+nURrBq0u7ho/on4YSiukNzp0bpvdNf8lZI1ONwKhYHKnuozvpRu7LQBfzi8BE2MXnqjqAPtrNzeRcNBeotTGfQzZu06FFpAmZYSsaHw/fF0Snpz6eB+AgFkVeYeiCoFlv7Q= Received: by 10.38.74.18 with SMTP id w18mr27604rna; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.45 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:52:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a050111125231e3db3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:52:24 +0000 From: Chris To: Dick Davies In-Reply-To: <20050110120556.GI25665@lb.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <109593615.20050109100927@wanadoo.fr> <20050109012537.A79965@logik.ath.cx> <139201652.20050109105314@wanadoo.fr> <20050110120556.GI25665@lb.tenfour> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:52:26 -0000 I have noticed with all the work gone in to 5.x to optimise SMP performance in return uniprocessor performance has suffered considerably I think this is what the concerns are about? Will future releases such as 5.4 remedy this by fixing the drop in performance on uniprocessor machines? Chris On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:05:56 +0000, Dick Davies wrote: > * Anthony Atkielski [0154 09:54]: > > Mark writes: > > > > M> Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have > > M> to recompile your kernel? :) > > > > Usually once when I first install the OS, then never again (unless I > > change something in the hardware, which I hardly ever do). Windows > > often has to be rebooted just to install a new application (although > > that's a problem with the application, not a problem with the OS, in > > most cases). > > And what about security patches? > > -- > 'If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a > house of cards... Checkmate!' > -- Zapp. Brannigan > Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 21:22:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A7716A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B9F43D39 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A114A389191 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:22:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:22:15 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:22:17 -0000 We're getting ready to create some new servers from scratch (format/install). We've been using 4.9 and 4.10 for a while now with no problems. We've got one 5.3 box setup for test purposes. On this list I have seen comments about instability issues in 5.3. These servers need to be stable. Should we install 4.10/11? Or move up to 5.3? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 21:31:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F147B16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:31:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (levanto.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A1543D2F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:31:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from bofh.spyderweb.com.au (219-90-233-62.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.233.62]) by levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF435C81 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:59:57 +1030 (CST) Received: from spyderweb.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.spyderweb.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0BLWIli056895 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:02:19 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:02:16 +1030 From: Tim Aslat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112080216.641a9cae@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Spyderweb Consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:31:44 -0000 In the immortal words of Paul Schmehl ... > We're getting ready to create some new servers from scratch > (format/install). We've been using 4.9 and 4.10 for a while now with > no problems. We've got one 5.3 box setup for test purposes. > > On this list I have seen comments about instability issues in 5.3. > These servers need to be stable. Should we install 4.10/11? Or move > up to 5.3? Personally, I would consider moving to the 5.x branch as it has now been declared to be the "Stable" branch, and the 4.x versions won't be supported much longer. I've set up several servers using 5.3 and they seem reasonably stable. I'm now in the process of upgrading one of my older servers to 5.3 from 4.8. Of course, others may have different ideas, but in the end, if the test server you set up works like it should, what reason do you have for not using it? Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 21:33:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB8716A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:33:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAADC43D3F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <200501112133260110037t2je>; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:33:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.16] (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.16]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B01560C6; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:33:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E44628.1010405@trini0.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:33:28 -0500 From: Gerard Samuel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <41E4266A.2020307@trini0.org> <41E4392D.6060500@trini0.org> <41E43B96.7070801@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <41E43B96.7070801@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: NFS & File Locking on FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:33:28 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Gerard Samuel wrote: > >> Gerard Samuel wrote: >> >>> Whats needed to enable file locking on FBSD 5.3? >>> I already had NFS running, so I added this to the >>> server's rc.conf file -> >>> rpc_lockd_enable="YES" >>> and rebooted. >> >> >> I just noticed this in the logs -> >> Jan 11 15:23:37 hivemind rpcbind: cannot create socket for udp6 >> Jan 11 15:23:38 hivemind rpc.lockd: 100024 RPC: Program not registered >> >> I've googled a bit, and Im coming up with references that >> IP6 doesn't have to built into the kernel, of which I do not have it >> built in the kernel anyway. >> Im not sure of what else to do to get lockd running. > > > Well, I guess google haven't searched the archives resently. I wrote > just yesterday (NFS export of evolution-thread) that you need to > enable statd _and_ lockd. lockd will not start without statd enabled. > You don't need to reboot, just > > /etc/rc.d/nfslocking restart Thanks for the tip. It seems to be running now. $ ps aux | grep lockd root 361 0.0 0.2 1632 1292 ?? Ss 4:23PM 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/rpc.lockd daemon 372 0.0 0.2 1632 1292 ?? S 4:23PM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/rpc.lockd > >> rpcbind_enable="YES" >> nfs_server_enable="YES" >> mountd_flags="-r" >> rpc_lockd_enable="YES" > > > I don't see you have enabled mountd, but you had nfs running and > mounted succesfully? - or maybe just a typo copy/paste? The config is correct, according to the manual. Never had a problem with it (knocks on wood) Now to go test if php will work now... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 21:37:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5864316A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:37:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49E743D3F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:37:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790A7FD024; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:37:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E44705.9070107@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:37:09 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:37:12 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > We're getting ready to create some new servers from scratch > (format/install). We've been using 4.9 and 4.10 for a while now with no > problems. We've got one 5.3 box setup for test purposes. > > On this list I have seen comments about instability issues in 5.3. > These servers need to be stable. Should we install 4.10/11? Or move up > to 5.3? While there are ongoing discussions on how long 4.x will be supported and when/if 5.x is mature for production, there is no doubt that at some point, 4.x will no longer be supported and 5.x will be _the_ production release. For this reason, you should consider the extra work involved in later upgrading to 5.x, the recommended way is a complete reinstall which will lead to downtime. Apart from stability, you should also consider if 5.x provides specific features you need or want which are not supported under 4.x, or support for specific hardware. Considering this, I'd recommend 5.x. I have not found it more unstable or worse performing than 4.x, but ofcourse, could be that I'm just not stressing the system enough. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 21:39:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C1716A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:39:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F5743D46 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:39:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2])j0BLdGSe021095 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:39:16 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0BLdBpu002173 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:39:11 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "FreeBSD_Questions" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:39:11 -0700 Message-ID: <00c301c4f825$fd1b7510$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.101, required 3, HTML_60_70 0.10, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Unreal Tournament ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:39:20 -0000 Does anyone know if I can play UT 2004 on FreeBSD. I'm running 5.3 r4. I've been googling and I have found very little information on the 2004 version. Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question. Thanks, Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 21:42:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8BC16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:42:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF8843D41 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:42:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j0BLgqee017672; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j0BLglbx026425; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:42:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:42:47 -0500 To: Paul Schmehl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:42:53 -0000 On Jan 11, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > We're getting ready to create some new servers from scratch > (format/install). We've been using 4.9 and 4.10 for a while now with > no problems. We've got one 5.3 box setup for test purposes. > > On this list I have seen comments about instability issues in 5.3. > These servers need to be stable. Should we install 4.10/11? Or move > up to 5.3? If the servers need to be stable, and you've been using 4.10 and are satisfied with it, *and* you don't have time to test 5.3 to achieve a similiar level of confidence, go with 4.10/4.11. However, it sounds like you've had some time to test 5.3, and such testing ought to give you feedback on how 4.x versus 5.x performs for your particular workload, and you can make a decision from there. I have a number of 4.x systems in production, and I won't upgrade them to 5 simply for the sake of updating, but new machines are getting 5.3. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 21:56:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B478A16A4CE; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:56:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FEB43D46; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:56:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 6B1E2471835; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:01:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 68230386727; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:56:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Tue Jan 11 22:56:41 2005 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CC33866FB; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:56:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from tx2.Go2France.com [24.227.147.226] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A9367AE40066; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:46:30 +0100 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050111154955.03efd268@81.255.84.73> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@81.255.84.73 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:56:29 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <20050110101200.W13168@mail.foolishgames.com> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050110103857.045a9a68@81.255.84.73> <20050110101200.W13168@mail.foolishgames.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: buildup of Windows time_wait talking to fbsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:56:41 -0000 >>We have a windows mailserver that relays its outbound to a fbsd >>gateway. We changed to a different fbsd gateway running 4.10. Windows >>then began having trouble sending to 4.10. Windows "netstat -an" >>shows dozens of lines like this: >> >> source IP desitination IP >>====================================================================== >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1403 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1407 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1415 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1419 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1435 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1462 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1470 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1473 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1478 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1493 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1504 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1507 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1508 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1521 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1526 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1546 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1550 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1568 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1571 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1589 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1592 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1616 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1620 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1629 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1644 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1647 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> TCP 10.1.16.3:1654 192.168.200.59:25 TIME_WAIT >> >>Eventually, the windows SMTP logs line like "cannot connect to remote IP" >>or "address already in use" because no local tcp/ip sockets are >>available, we think. >> >>The new gateway/fbsd 4.10 "sockstat -4" shows no corresponding tcp >>connections when the Windows server is showing as above. On the fbsd >>4.10 machines, smtp logs, syslog, and dmesg show no errors. >> >>We switch the windows box to smtp gateway towards the old box/fbsd 4.7, >>all is cool. >> >>Suggestions with how to proceed debugging, please. >> >>I'm trying to get the dmesg.boot for the 4.7 and 4.10 boxes now, sorry. >> >>Len > >Just off the top of my head... > >You mentioned the freebsd machine is the gateway. Do you have a firewall >on the host blocking connections from the windows machine? the two mail servers that send outbound to the fbsd gateway are on the subnet, same rules. the firewall is "outside" the subnets of the mail servers and gateways. We haven't put a sniffer yet. there's none on windows boxes, and tcpview on the fbsd boxes. We going to start changing NIC model/brands. thanks Len _____________________________________________________________________ http://IMGate.MEIway.com : free anti-spam gateway, runs on 1000's of sites From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 22:06:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED91716A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:06:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909EB43D1D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from artware@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so339324rne for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:06:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Pjo/gEgO7vU5T/xFjYauXTY7M4TgA+lXMCoumnd/0jriMXmOTpnN43K7g2EXbpbwZfZL7rJj8rFpq3BmwN4qSQbbLFgUxeDksBJzR0BXNmBrfVL7+UeTveBmLJGJRV5ubqpro3xA85vzi+ZfOHtChh15X97uCQyOClPJZH2kg38= Received: by 10.38.101.56 with SMTP id y56mr139420rnb; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.65.13 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:06:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:06:07 -0600 From: artware To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7b3c7f0b0501101142223c3e36@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: artware List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:06:09 -0000 These types of attacks don't seem directed -- it's more like fishing for unprotected systems. FWIW, changing the ssh port dropped the illegal user attempts to 0 instantly... - ben On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:29:10 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > If I'm going to attack you I'm going to use nessus to scan all > ports on your machine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 22:48:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CEF16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:48:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.au.itouchnet.net (nat2.au.itouchnet.net [144.135.23.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C923A43D2F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:48:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewjt@applecomm.net) Received: from [192.168.13.111] (helo=itouch-1011.prv.au.itouchnet.net) by mx1.au.itouchnet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34; FreeBSD) id 1CoUoa-0009Gp-VX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:48:44 +1100 From: Andrew Thomson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:46:24 +1100 Message-Id: <1105483584.98219.7.camel@itouch-1011.prv.au.itouchnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "mx1.au.itouchnet.net", hasmessageblock similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi, Looking for some thoughts on the following scenario. firewall ---- smtp2 | | smtp1 [...] Content analysis details: (-4.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description --------------------------------------------------1% [score: 0.0000] Subject: smtp pull X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:48:48 -0000 Hi, Looking for some thoughts on the following scenario. firewall ---- smtp2 | | smtp1 smtp1 is on the DMZ. So smtp1 is the first point of call for incoming mail. Mail ultimately has to end up on smtp2 however I do not want smtp1 to simply forward the mail to smtp2 as I'll have to explicitly allow the setup of port 25 through the firewall to smtp2. I would like smtp2 to connect to smtp1 and pull back the mail so that it's smtp2 that initiating an outgoing connection to smtp1. Is there any smtp type approach I can use? Obviously I can make smtp1 drop the mail in a mailbox on smtp1 and then get smtp2 to imap or pop the mail out however I'm looking for something that's fast and pop doesn't really excite me.. Anyone have any other thoughts? Thanks, ajt. -- Andrew Thomson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 23:08:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D09216A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:08:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net (lakermmtao02.cox.net [68.230.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC8F43D45 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:08:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050111230840.VSJA2202.lakermmtao02.cox.net@localhost> for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:08:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:08:40 -0500 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050111230840.GA58097@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050111073147.GA54487@kongemord.krig.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050111073147.GA54487@kongemord.krig.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Hosts.allow and netatalk/cups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:08:42 -0000 On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:31:47AM -0500, Bob Hall wrote: > Three questions: > > How do I cause changes in the hosts.allow file to take effect without > rebooting? Everything I've seen says to restart inetd, but I'm not using > inetd. I searched with different keywords and found the answer to this in the archives. Searching the archives, Googling, and experimentation still haven't turned up an answer to the two below. > How do I compile netatalk without CUPS? I don't see any obvious > switches, but there has to be something that tells Make to use CUPS, > because it gives a message saying that it's checking if CUPS can be > included. > > How do I get netatalk to use the dbd cnid scheme? It ignores the > path name cnidscheme:dbd > setting in AppleVolumes.default and the > - -cnidserver localhost:4700 > setting in afpd.conf. Regardless of what the cnidscheme setting is, it > announces that's there's no cnid scheme selected and uses the default. > > Bob Hall > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 23:16:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CC116A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:16:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [204.156.12.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D3343D2F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:16:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j0BNFs8x008318; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:15:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost)j0BNFr41008315; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:15:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pemaquid.safeport.com: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:15:53 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: Ronny Fischer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050111174816.G41185@pemaquid.safeport.com> References: <20050106232123.AC3BA16A4D2@hub.freebsd.org> <20050108055611.GA27077@panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:16:07 -0000 As to good ideas Ronnie, I do not think so, but here are some things you may not have tried: Since you found me you probably have already gone the Google route but if you have not try your exact configuration. Try the FreeBSD mobile and hardware lists. Freshports may help with Xorg as well as XFree86 XFree86 has the advantage of better documentation about bugs, at least currently. Try their resource page. The development snapshots list pretty specifically what was fixed in each snapshot. You can download binaries for FreeBSD and these are pretty quick to install (10-15 mins after the first one). The XFree86 newbie list is pretty helpful; subscribe and post your question there. If any of the above works, I would then drop back to 4.11 unless you do not mind using ports (rather than packages). My Unix workstations and laptops are far too slow to consider building X or KDE. BTW if the above is wrong I would sure like to be clued in. Aside from the fact that the packages are built with Xorg, some of the low level dependencies have mutually exclusive version dependencies. Portupgrade may allow the use of packages by rewriting the dependencies. I would think Xorg and XFree are still compatible at the BPI level. Because of processor speed I can start from scratch and build my laptop 4-5 times before Qt would finish building. On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Ronny Fischer wrote: > Hi there > > I have updatet to > xorg-server-6.8.1_1 X.Org X server and related programs via FreeBSD > Ports.. > > ..but it is still not possible to get more the 8 bit color on the sony > c1ve. > the vesa driver is fine in 640x480 but it is not possible to have it > with 1024x480 on this machine... > > any other ideas ? > could it work with xfree86 instead of xorg ? > > thanx a lot, > HAVE FUN and > with my best regardz > ronny > > > > Am 08.01.2005 um 18:14 schrieb doug@safeport.com: > > Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that the > problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x. > > The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font > rendering. > > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote: > > > Doug, Ronny... > > > > I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, 2004 > > using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have a default > > depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using the ati driver. > > > > Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my > > experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the most > > recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on December > > 28th. > > > > Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in > > September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what is > > above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest source for > > xorg and the chip in question. > > > > HTH, best regards, > > > > Joe > > > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-469-8766 > Fax: 301-469-0601 > > Beschtae Dank, > HAFE FUN und > mit aemae Gruaess > Ronny > ----------------------------------- > http://the.fischerman.ch > mailto:info@fischerman.ch > ----------------------------------- > < /EndOfTransmission > > > > ######################################################################## > This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared > by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution > ######################################################################## > ------------ Output from pgp ------------ > Signature by unknown keyid: 0x5E41EEFB > > _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 23:54:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD2316A4CF for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:54:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CF343D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:54:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC51388DA9 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:54:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:54:03 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3E297E9898A697333F554736@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050112080216.641a9cae@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> References: <20050112080216.641a9cae@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:54:04 -0000 Thanks to those who provided (and may provide in the future) their responses to my question. I appreciate the input. Frankly, when I saw a recent post about instabilities in 5.3, I think I may have gotten overly concerned about it. The 5.3 server we have in test is working fine, so we'll install that on the new ones. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 23:54:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6CB16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:54:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDBA43D1F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:55:47 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202E948C5@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: smtp pull Thread-Index: AcT4L+PTplIPvTDqRJGvgCiz2J9nWQACQYaw From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "Andrew Thomson" , Subject: RE: smtp pull X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:54:32 -0000 Someone broke the silence:=20 > Hi, >=20 > Looking for some thoughts on the following scenario. >=20 > firewall ---- smtp2 >>=20 >>=20 > smtp1 >=20 > smtp1 is on the DMZ. So smtp1 is the first point of call for incoming > mail. Mail ultimately has to end up on smtp2 however I do not > want smtp1 > to simply forward the mail to smtp2 as I'll have to > explicitly allow the > setup of port 25 through the firewall to smtp2. >=20 > I would like smtp2 to connect to smtp1 and pull back the mail so that > it's smtp2 that initiating an outgoing connection to smtp1. Maybe fetchmail is what you need? That is what most of dialup users use = when they run their own MTA servers. Chris >=20 > Is there any smtp type approach I can use? >=20 > Obviously I can make smtp1 drop the mail in a mailbox on > smtp1 and then > get smtp2 to imap or pop the mail out however I'm looking for > something that's fast and pop doesn't really excite me.. >=20 > Anyone have any other thoughts? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > ajt. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 00:05:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BA616A4D2 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:05:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F4043D54 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CoW0m-0005CX-Js; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:05:20 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Schmehl Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:05:34 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050112080216.641a9cae@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> <3E297E9898A697333F554736@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <3E297E9898A697333F554736@utd49554.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501111805.34552.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc326cedfd0ddd3dd3a6328e3716d6d101350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:05:21 -0000 On Tuesday 11 January 2005 05:54 pm, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Thanks to those who provided (and may provide in the future) their > responses to my question. I appreciate the input. > > Frankly, when I saw a recent post about instabilities in 5.3, I think > I may have gotten overly concerned about it. The 5.3 server we have > in test is working fine, so we'll install that on the new ones. > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > Adjunct Information Security Officer > The University of Texas at Dallas > AVIEN Founding Member > http://www.utdallas.edu I used to read all problems posted on this list and start second guessing my OS decisions. It's easy to forget that people post their problems far more often than their successes -- appropriately so. A better indication of trouble would be if the list members got excited about postings such as "My server's still up!". :-) Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 00:52:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BB016A550 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:52:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92C343D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:52:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [68.243.126.247] (016-020-084.area7.spcsdns.net [68.243.126.247]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A166317D03C for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:52:39 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: SnapperMail 2.1.1.01 by Snapperfish, www.snappermail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:52 -0500 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> Subject: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:52:48 -0000 summary: should I disable hypertheading in the BIOS when running 5.3? Background info: I have a new Dell Dimension 3000 running 5.3. I noticed some huge pauses when copying a large # of files across the network. Googling around found some information about earlier versions of 5.x and Hyperthreading being detrimenatl for performance. Whether or not it was the source of the network copy problem, I am trying to decide if I should disable Hyperthreading. Iif YES, I wasn't clear if people meant "disable in BIOS" or just some configuration setting in a *.conf file. (disabling HT will apparently mean I have to reinstall XP on the other drive. Not necessarily a bad thing, as it is supposedly also the way to solve the problem of my modem causing a BSOD in XP) thanks TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 01:20:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ECC16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:20:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ion.franksworld.org (vhost.domainatlantic.com [67.18.185.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5023F43D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:20:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: (qmail 67901 invoked by uid 98); 12 Jan 2005 01:20:56 -0000 Received: from 68.32.91.145 by ion.franksworld.org (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 3.0.1. Clear:RC:0(68.32.91.145):SA:0(0.8/5.0):. Processed in 2.519312 secs); 12 Jan 2005 01:20:56 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: laszlof@vonostingroup.com via ion.franksworld.org X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:0(68.32.91.145):SA:0(0.8/5.0):. Processed in 2.519312 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO ?68.32.91.145?) (frank@franksworld.org@68.32.91.145) by vhost.domainatlantic.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 01:20:53 -0000 Message-ID: <41E47B5D.1090400@vonostingroup.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:20:29 -0500 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ATI TV Wonder VE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:20:35 -0000 I recently found in my hardware pile an ATI TV Wonder VE. I vaguely remember using this card with v4l on linux and decided I would give it a go on freebsd. Its apparently supported by bktr(4) I went ahead a kldload'd the module. this the what dmesg told me: bktr_mem: memory holder loaded bktr0: mem 0xee043000-0xee043fff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 bktr0: [GIANT-LOCKED] bktr0: Unable to allocate 1310720 bytes of memory. bktr0: Unable to allocate 3555328 bytes of memory. bktr0: Warning - card vendor 0x1002 (model 0x0003) unknown. bktr0: Pinnacle/Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. asside from those memory errors all seemed well. i attempted to run xawtv -hwscan and got this: /dev/bktr0: initialization failed I decided to try fxtv for the hell of it and got this error message: ioctl(BT848_SAUDIO, 128) failed: Cannot allocate memory mmap of driver buffer failed: Invalid argument has anyone had simular issues with this card? Or have any information that may help to solve it? I am running: FreeBSD dungeon.franksworld.org 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Fri Dec 31 11:11:28 EST 2004 laszlof@dungeon.franksworld.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DUNGEON i386 Any help is greatly appriciated. Regards, Frank Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 01:31:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BE416A531 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:31:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF75F43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0C1VK3c075651 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:31:20 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0C1VK47075648; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:31:20 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:31:20 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501120131.j0C1VK47075648@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: CVSup the port collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:31:28 -0000 Hi, I was trying to cvsup the port collection, but all it did was deleting some ports, and never replaced them with new ones. I would have thought that the following configuration file would do the trick, but it did not. What have I wrong? TIA Olivier *default tag=RELENG_5_3 #*default host=cvsup.jp.FreeBSD.org *default host=cvsup4.jp.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-base ports-databases cvsroot-common cvsroot-ports From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 01:37:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9658716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:37:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ion.franksworld.org (vhost.domainatlantic.com [67.18.185.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F27543D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:37:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: (qmail 73028 invoked by uid 98); 12 Jan 2005 01:38:07 -0000 Received: from 68.32.91.145 by ion.franksworld.org (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 3.0.1. Clear:RC:0(68.32.91.145):SA:0(0.9/5.0):. Processed in 1.124293 secs); 12 Jan 2005 01:38:07 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: laszlof@vonostingroup.com via ion.franksworld.org X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:0(68.32.91.145):SA:0(0.9/5.0):. Processed in 1.124293 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO ?68.32.91.145?) (frank@franksworld.org@68.32.91.145) by vhost.domainatlantic.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 01:38:05 -0000 Message-ID: <41E47F66.4050304@vonostingroup.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:37:42 -0500 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <200501120131.j0C1VK47075648@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200501120131.j0C1VK47075648@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup the port collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:37:44 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: >Hi, > >I was trying to cvsup the port collection, but all it did was deleting >some ports, and never replaced them with new ones. > >I would have thought that the following configuration file would do >the trick, but it did not. What have I wrong? > >TIA > >Olivier > >*default tag=RELENG_5_3 > > ports dont have tags. replace RELENG_5_3 with a period. >#*default host=cvsup.jp.FreeBSD.org >*default host=cvsup4.jp.FreeBSD.org >*default base=/var/db >*default prefix=/usr >*default release=cvs >*default delete use-rel-suffix >*default compress >ports-base >ports-databases > >cvsroot-common >cvsroot-ports > > You shouldnt really only cvsup certain parts of the ports tree. its generally not a good idea. ports-all is all you need here. and I dont think you will need cvsroot stuff. Regards, Frank Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 01:44:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C6116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:44:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8A143D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:44:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b162.otenet.gr [212.205.244.170]) j0C1i2cb019407; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:44:03 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0C1hxGO009525; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:43:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0C1hxIN009518; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:43:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:43:59 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Message-ID: <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:44:07 -0000 On 2005-01-11 19:52, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > > summary: should I disable hypertheading in the BIOS when running 5.3? > [...] > If YES, I wasn't clear if people meant "disable in BIOS" or just some > configuration setting in a *.conf file. FWIW, that should be enough, as far as FreeBSD is concerned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 01:48:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854AF16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:48:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2394F43D54 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:48:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sp0ng3b0b@sbcglobal.net) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.1.25?) (joe?stevensen@69.107.45.115 with plain) by smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 01:48:40 -0000 Message-ID: <41E481F9.7080508@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:48:41 -0800 From: sp0ng3b0b User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:48:40 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > We're getting ready to create some new servers from scratch > (format/install). We've been using 4.9 and 4.10 for a while now with no > problems. We've got one 5.3 box setup for test purposes. > > On this list I have seen comments about instability issues in 5.3. > These servers need to be stable. Should we install 4.10/11? Or move up > to 5.3? I'm in the same boat. I've had mixed results with 5.3. I advise you to test it out for your needs. If your hardware and apps play well together, go for it. As a web, mysql and samba server, I've had no problems. As an IDS running snort, I've had problems with the nge driver. I need these NICs for monitoring gigabit links. Simply "uping" the interface caused FreeBSD to panic. I posted here and opened a problem report, but got no replies. FWIW, I never saw a kernel panic until I used 5.3, but I do acknowledge that the technology added is new and results may very. In the end, I still use FreeBSD 5.3 for servers when I can. I think the new SMP stuff is great. I don't like using the 4.x line since its doomed soon. ;) I also know that Yahoo operates a lot of FreeBSD servers. I would love to hear their results if they are testing 5.3. One last comment, I must admit that in order to get something stable for my IDSs, I installed Gentoo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 02:05:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BD416A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:05:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03.rdc-nyc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-smtplb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.109.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC5F43D3F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:05:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from BSD-Mail@nyc.rr.com) Received: from bsd.nyc.rr.com (69-201-151-233.nyc.rr.com [69.201.151.233]) j0C25QGi002206 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:05:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:06:51 -0500 From: John Wilson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050111210651.41838ab4.BSD-Mail@nyc.rr.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0rc (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: USB CD-ROM installations. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:05:32 -0000 Hello folks. I am currently looking into purchasing an external USB CD/DVD+/-RW unit for my machine here at home. However, before doing so, I do have a few questions before plunking down the cash for this thing. For starters, I don't know if this is an issue now, or ever really was an issue to begin with, but I vaguely recall hearing about problems during the installation of FreeBSD from a USB CD-ROM; something akin to the install halting at some point and thus a faulure to install at all. Unfortunately, after google'ing about, I am unable to find anything in regard to this. If anyone could confirm successful USB CD-ROM installs, it would be most appreciated. Yes, my machines does support booting from USB devices. Since the -STABLE EHCI, or USB2.0, support is not fully implemented yet, as I understand it and in so far as supporting full speed operation, will this pose any problems burning DVD +R or -R media? I've never had a DVD burner before, so I am somewhat new to this hardware. Any suggestions or comments would be most appreciated. Thank you, John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 02:10:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A0D16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0A4C43D58 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:10:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 9633 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jan 2005 02:09:43 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.68?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 02:09:43 -0000 In-Reply-To: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0D509666-643F-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:09:55 -0600 To: "Timothy J. Luoma" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:10:02 -0000 On Jan 11, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > summary: should I disable hypertheading in the BIOS when running 5.3? > > Background info: > > I have a new Dell Dimension 3000 running 5.3. > > I noticed some huge pauses when copying a large # of files across the > network. Googling around found some information about earlier > versions of > 5.x and Hyperthreading being detrimenatl for performance. > > Whether or not it was the source of the network copy problem, I am > trying > to decide if I should disable Hyperthreading. IMO there are times where 5.3 doesn't schedule the CPU as fairly as one would like. Times I've suspected this were during aggressive file activity on a few large files. I have HT disabled due to earlier problems with the combination of SATA and vinum resulting in a trashed fs with a late version of 5.2.1. The benefits of HT are too few for me to risk trashing the fs now its full. If you can reproduce your situation then I suggest disabling HT and see what happens. That's the only way anybody would know if HT is part of the problem or part of the solution. > Iif YES, I wasn't clear if people meant "disable in BIOS" or just some > configuration setting in a *.conf file. In the BIOS. > (disabling HT will apparently mean I have to reinstall XP on the other > drive. What does XP have to do with it? IIRC on Dell its F2 during the power-on diagnostics to reach the built-in BIOS config. That is where HT is to be disabled. Works exactly that way on my PowerEdge 400SC 2.8G P4. The only question is whether the key is F2 to get there or not. Was F2 this afternoon on my ancient Dell Optiplex 450 MHz P2 when I had to boot a DOS floppy to remap some bad blocks. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 02:18:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F1C16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:18:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ion.franksworld.org (vhost.domainatlantic.com [67.18.185.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B363F43D5A for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:18:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: (qmail 85169 invoked by uid 98); 12 Jan 2005 02:19:07 -0000 Received: from 68.32.91.145 by ion.franksworld.org (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 3.0.1. Clear:RC:0(68.32.91.145):SA:0(0.5/5.0):. Processed in 1.319673 secs); 12 Jan 2005 02:19:07 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: laszlof@vonostingroup.com via ion.franksworld.org X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:0(68.32.91.145):SA:0(0.5/5.0):. Processed in 1.319673 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO ?68.32.91.145?) (frank@franksworld.org@68.32.91.145) by vhost.domainatlantic.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 02:19:06 -0000 Message-ID: <41E48902.2070701@vonostingroup.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:18:42 -0500 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sp0ng3b0b References: <41E481F9.7080508@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <41E481F9.7080508@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Paul Schmehl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:18:45 -0000 sp0ng3b0b wrote: > > I also know that Yahoo operates a lot of FreeBSD servers. I would love > to hear their results if they are testing 5.3. > Yahoo most likely runs some home-brewed version of FreeBSD. highly customized for their needs. -Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 02:31:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DA116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:31:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C602E43D3F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:31:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0C2VMlh033997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:31:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E48BDE.7010301@mac.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:30:54 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Timothy J. Luoma" References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> In-Reply-To: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:31:28 -0000 Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > summary: should I disable hypertheading in the BIOS when running 5.3? It would certainly be worth trying this and seeing whether running as a purely single-proc system performs better for you. It's not exactly as if HyperThreading evolved out of a sensible plan like "let's design a multi-core CPU intended for parallel execution, or something like a m56k DSP with VLIW", the situation is more like "Intel created the P4 such a monsterously long pipeline that breaks x86 instructions into tiny u-ops which require a lot of functional units to be available, only the CPU still can't schedule things to use all of the available units much of the time, anyway, so hey, maybe we could run another processing thread on 'em and hope the additional work it can do outweighs the additional CPU resource contention and the additional overhead of doing SMP..." [ I have a non-HT P4 (a 2.4MHz@400FSB Northwood) around, but I doubt I'd turn HT on with it even if it could. I'd rather use an AMD-64, or a G5, or even a recent P3 (Tualatin/Pentium-M) than another hyperthermal P4 spaceheater. ] Bah, I'm rambling, time to stop... :-) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 03:19:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BF016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:19:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969EA43D62 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:19:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0C3IuCk061428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:18:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E49703.2030209@mac.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:18:27 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kelly References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <0D509666-643F-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> In-Reply-To: <0D509666-643F-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: "Timothy J. Luoma" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:19:04 -0000 David Kelly wrote: >> (disabling HT will apparently mean I have to reinstall XP on the other >> drive. > > What does XP have to do with it? IIRC on Dell its F2 during the power-on > diagnostics to reach the built-in BIOS config. That is where HT is to be > disabled. If you install and configure many flavors of Windows on a SMP system, that installation will not work if you move that image to a uni-proc system by swapping disks or otherwise removing CPU's (ie, by turning off HT'ing). I last saw this with a Win2K system, which immediately blue-screened with an "invalid SMP HAL" error very early in the boot. [ It doesn't surprise me that one would want or have to reinstall XP after disabling HyperThreading. There exist even less comprehensible reasons which oblige people to reinstall Windows.... ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 03:26:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7879716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:26:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129E643D55 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:26:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0C3Q0Ic064153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:26:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E498AB.4010800@mac.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:25:31 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Thomson References: <1105483584.98219.7.camel@itouch-1011.prv.au.itouchnet.net> In-Reply-To: <1105483584.98219.7.camel@itouch-1011.prv.au.itouchnet.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smtp pull X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:26:20 -0000 Andrew Thomson wrote: [ ... ] > smtp1 is on the DMZ. So smtp1 is the first point of call for incoming > mail. Mail ultimately has to end up on smtp2 however I do not want smtp1 > to simply forward the mail to smtp2 as I'll have to explicitly allow the > setup of port 25 through the firewall to smtp2. > > I would like smtp2 to connect to smtp1 and pull back the mail so that > it's smtp2 that initiating an outgoing connection to smtp1. > > Is there any smtp type approach I can use? You can configure smtp1 as a standard backup MX for smtp2, and use the ETRN command from smtp2 to convince smtp1 to process it's queue of messages. On the other hand, unless you configure both sides to use a non-standard port, smtp1 is still going to open new connections via port 25 to smtp2. That's what the SMTP protocol does, and your firewall can either permit the mail or it can block the mail. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 03:35:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D5B16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:35:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFDA43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:35:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0C3Z1LT069572 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:35:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E49AC8.4010909@mac.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:34:32 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Wilson References: <20050111210651.41838ab4.BSD-Mail@nyc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20050111210651.41838ab4.BSD-Mail@nyc.rr.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB CD-ROM installations. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:35:06 -0000 John Wilson wrote: [ ... ] > Since the -STABLE EHCI, or USB2.0, support is not fully implemented yet, as I > understand it and in so far as supporting full speed operation, will this pose > any problems burning DVD +R or -R media? I've never had a DVD burner before, so > I am somewhat new to this hardware. I've gotten the impression that USB2 under FreeBSD 5.3 will support 4x well and be OK at 8x DVD burning speeds, although I've seen some reports of problems (failing every third or forth burn) at high speeds, too. If it is possible, consider using Firewire instead: FreeBSD works very well with FW/1394, and FW was designed for that kind of usage (specificly, reserving dedicated I/O channels to guarantee bandwidth for realtime multimedia tasks). -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 03:50:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D93C16A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:50:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB47743D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:50:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 29959 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jan 2005 03:56:41 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.68?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 03:56:41 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <41E49703.2030209@mac.com> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <0D509666-643F-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> <41E49703.2030209@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-493070635; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <0BD7B3B8-644D-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> From: David Kelly Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:50:05 -0600 To: FreeBSD_Questions FreeBSD_Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:50:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail-5-493070635 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 11, 2005, at 9:18 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > David Kelly wrote: >>> (disabling HT will apparently mean I have to reinstall XP on the >>> other >>> drive. >> What does XP have to do with it? IIRC on Dell its F2 during the >> power-on diagnostics to reach the built-in BIOS config. That is where >> HT is to be disabled. > > If you install and configure many flavors of Windows on a SMP system, > that installation will not work if you move that image to a uni-proc > system by swapping disks or otherwise removing CPU's (ie, by turning > off HT'ing). I last saw this with a Win2K system, which immediately > blue-screened with an "invalid SMP HAL" error very early in the boot. OK, that makes Microsoft-logic sense. Had it in my head that he was saying the need to reinstall XP on a HD was to have a utility to toggle the HT bit in BIOS. OTOH I've heard of others toggling the HT bit but don't remember anything about having to reinstall XP. Last I had a similar dealing was with NT4SP4, possibly with the "upgrade" to NT4SP6 when I somehow lost one of my 450 MHz CPU's. Found instructions on how to revive the 2nd CPU but left it alone as it was far better for the company server to be running on one CPU than the risk of damaging the install worse than it already was. Last time I had to reinstall NT4SP6 it took 3 days of patch, reboot, repeat, before the OS install was complete. Decided it was time for a clean wipe installation on my laptop when Panther was released. Believe it took 15 minutes. About the same for a text-only installation of FreeBSD on my Dell Optiplex. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --Apple-Mail-5-493070635-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 03:52:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8D016A530 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta1p.point.ne.jp (mta1p.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54F043D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:52:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp) Received: from vc12.point.ne.jp ([211.1.103.140]) by mta1p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050112035243.ETVI766.mta1p@vc12.point.ne.jp>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:52:43 +0900 Received: from fvc2-p.point.ne.jp (fvc2.point.ne.jp [210.188.175.77]) by vc12.point.ne.jp (Scanmail) with ESMTP id 946042AA09; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:52:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([218.230.55.49]) by fvc2-p.point.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20050112035242.FZNI178.fvc2-p@[218.230.55.49]>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:52:42 +0900 From: Srot BULL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E35380.90908@mac.com> References: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> <1105435387.849.18.camel@localhost> <41E32005.2040403@mac.com> <20050111020445.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <41E35380.90908@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:52:19 +0000 Message-Id: <1105534339.2062.16.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:52:46 -0000 Hello again... On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 23:18 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2005-01-10 19:38, Chuck Swiger wrote: > [ ... ] > >>Go to /etc/mail. Edit freebsd.cf (look for SMART_HOST), point it at your > >>ISP's mail server. Do "make stop; make install; make start". > > > > FWIW, the file edited should be `freebsd.mc', not `freebsd.cf' otherwise > > a subsequent "make install" will overwrite the edited `freebsd.cf' file > > with a fresh copy generated from `freebsd.mc'. > > Err, yes, that's right. (I knew which file I meant. :-) > > Note that you can even copy freebsd.mc to hostname.mc, and the system will > find it for you so you don't have to change the default template file. The > Makefile explains this better than I did. I did edit the file /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and changed the line containing the SMART_HOST to define(`SMART_HOST', `me.point.ne.jp') and # cd /etc/mail/ # make stop # make install # make start Everything went well... I now have a r40e.point.ne.jp.mc and the all.. But, when I tried to send an Email to my yahoo.com account to test if it is working... Here is what came back to my InBox: The original message was received at Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:34:41 GMT from localhost [127.0.0.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 554 : Relay access denied) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to vc.point.ne.jp.: >>> DATA <<< 554 : Relay access denied 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients It seems that I was not allowed to relay my email so I tried the archives and then I tried reading the README file at /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README and found something about: Providing SMTP AUTH Data when sendmail acts as Client ----------------------------------------------------- I read a little and did what I understood: 1) created a /etc/mail/authinfo file with the following AuthInfo:point.ne.jp "U:myusername" "I:myusername" "P:password" AuthInfo:me.point.ne.jp "U:myusername" "I:myusername" "P:password" Did a # cd /etc/mail/ # make stop # make install # make start No problems but still I can not send Emails using sendmail... Any hints...Or am I going the wrong direction here and probably messed my configuration badly now...? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 03:55:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1110E16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:55:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay1-f34.bay1.hotmail.com [65.54.245.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D533543D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:55:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from briandrulard@sympatico.ca) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:55:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.93.197.22 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:54:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.93.197.22] X-Originating-Email: [briandrulard@sympatico.ca] X-Sender: briandrulard@sympatico.ca From: "Brian Drulard" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:54:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2005 03:55:01.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E142110:01C4F85A] Subject: Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:55:03 -0000 I'm currently using FreeBSD 5.3 with the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX video card. I have downloaded the NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-6113.tar.gz file and unziped it to /NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-6113. After following the instructions from the FreeBSD Handbook and NVIDIA install.txt I get the following error; command "make install" returned "error can't find kernel source tree" I have done the normal Google searches and after 2 days have found nothing to help me. Would anyone have some ideas to fix this problem. I have run the "Xorg -configure" command and it works fine, changed the Monitor Section and the Screen Section in the xorg.conf.new file. Thanks Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 03:58:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3AF16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:58:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53904.mail.yahoo.com (web53904.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68D3D43D49 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 54501 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2005 03:58:42 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=SenyUNP55PIYD5ODhEFVyw2h1BnhuupZ8zePkeGRS7lqcCCFjdPJHQk0SvSIqmbT+QySoogGOShK0v7dIJikkjORxpVzmXCwmsiKk8SEQM5nfoi2If5MGgK3mv/bHXsnD50qdYkSKfA4JGo4Z5+jnO0aAn9CQRaTl2UO3zw+Wrk= ; Message-ID: <20050112035842.54499.qmail@web53904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.18.53.121] by web53904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:58:42 PST Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:58:42 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: andrewjt@applecomm.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: smtp pull X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:58:44 -0000 it was said: Hi, Looking for some thoughts on the following scenario. firewall ---- smtp2 | | smtp1 smtp1 is on the DMZ. So smtp1 is the first point of call for incoming mail. Mail ultimately has to end up on smtp2 however I do not want smtp1 to simply forward the mail to smtp2 as I'll have to explicitly allow the setup of port 25 through the firewall to smtp2. I would like smtp2 to connect to smtp1 and pull back the mail so that it's smtp2 that initiating an outgoing connection to smtp1. Is there any smtp type approach I can use? etrn? stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:15:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE8216A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:15:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53902.mail.yahoo.com (web53902.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4EDA43D3F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:15:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 42252 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2005 04:15:52 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=xtVPkJ48p28JoTAdcpOWPrk1uPk2eEM8bi/CYg6TixYxBVw48pn8qdJBCSNLU/ycP31a/S6jAxhXk1GxRW9UshFj/DnsUUQFw0hCc7mvnb2IrBCiDhzWp1P/dOYiFQrnP4hkESc7ytV5TWqsoInc9Y7nN0EXvnPS/kZBJTw01jU= ; Message-ID: <20050112041552.42250.qmail@web53902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.18.53.121] by web53902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:15:51 PST Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:15:51 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: artware@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: tedm@toybox.placo.com Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:15:53 -0000 it was said: >These types of attacks don't seem directed -- it's more like fishing >for unprotected systems. > >FWIW, changing the ssh port dropped the illegal user attempts to 0 >instantly... > >- ben > >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:29:10 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt > > wrote: >> If I'm going to attack you I'm going to use nessus to scan all >> ports on your machine. Hello, Too many break-in attempts come from cracked Windows boxes running script bots to make reporting these attempts practical, so I changed my ssh port to a non-standard one. Now, if I see a break-in attempt, I block the /21 the attacking IP falls into and report it to the relevant ISP/network admin because I know a black hat has taken a personal interest in my network. Regards, Stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:26:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C57816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:26:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6C843D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [66.191.67.211] (c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com [66.191.67.211]) (authenticated bits=0)j0C4QRTq064396; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:26:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <1105534339.2062.16.camel@localhost> References: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> <1105435387.849.18.camel@localhost> <41E32005.2040403@mac.com> <20050111020445.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <41E35380.90908@mac.com> <1105534339.2062.16.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-494926320" Message-Id: <5DE83C55-6451-11D9-AA96-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:21:01 -0600 To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:26:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-494926320 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 12, 2005, at 6:52 AM, Srot BULL wrote: > > I did edit the file /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and changed the line > containing > the SMART_HOST to > define(`SMART_HOST', `me.point.ne.jp') > and > # cd /etc/mail/ > # make stop > # make install > # make start > > Everything went well... > I now have a r40e.point.ne.jp.mc and the all.. > But, when I tried to send an Email to my yahoo.com account to test if > it > is working... > > Here is what came back to my InBox: > The original message was received at Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:34:41 GMT > from localhost [127.0.0.1] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 554 : Relay access denied) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to vc.point.ne.jp.: >>>> DATA > <<< 554 : Relay access denied > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable > <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients > > It seems that I was not allowed to relay my email so I tried the > archives and then I tried reading the README file > at /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README > and found something about: > > Providing SMTP AUTH Data when sendmail acts as Client > ----------------------------------------------------- > > I read a little and did what I understood: > 1) created a /etc/mail/authinfo file with the following > AuthInfo:point.ne.jp "U:myusername" "I:myusername" "P:password" > AuthInfo:me.point.ne.jp "U:myusername" "I:myusername" "P:password" > > Did a > # cd /etc/mail/ > # make stop > # make install > # make start > No problems but still I can not send Emails using sendmail... > > Any hints...Or am I going the wrong direction here and probably messed > my configuration badly now...? Try editing the /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file and search for a line that starts with LogLevel. By default, IIRC, it's set to 9. Change this to 25, and from /etc/mail type make restart. (Don't make/make install as you're loglevel will be reset. Try sending an email. As soon as you're client is done, go to the server and type: # tail -n 50 /var/log/maillog You should see some information regarding the authentication and if there were any errors or not. HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-494926320 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHkpa0ACgkQRAAY9knOW+r7NwCeKPDtlMuyHQTNnNCnSivxAF13 rw8An0x4ay+sT2USIDTBXqHl/QsuyvuU =SeXV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-494926320-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:30:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1A616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:30:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (cromagnon.cullmail.com [67.33.58.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B4143D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:30:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (localhost.cullmail.com [127.0.0.1]) j0C4SQxY033802; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:28:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by cromagnon.cullmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0C4SP5H033801; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:28:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore) From: Jay Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, artware Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:28:25 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <20050110035717.27062.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> <41E318B2.3020108@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501112228.25182.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:30:35 -0000 On Tuesday 11 January 2005 12:46 am, artware wrote: > Thanks for the input, everyone! Port-knocking is overkill at this > point, but I did do the following things to sshd_config: > > Set port to non-default > PermitRootLogin no > LoginGraceTime 45s > AllowUsers lists only one user -- me. :) > > I also did route -nq add -host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 127.0.0.1 -blackhole... > > I think telnet was disabled by default in the base 5.3 install... > > I know this attack was probably random, but the whole reason I took > over as sysadmin and switched to FreeBSD is that our RHE box was being > broken into almost nightly -- so I'm sensitive to security concerns. > Is there anything else I should consider doing to the stock FreeBSD to > fortify it? It already feels about 100 times more secure than RH... You might consider using pf as a stateful packet filter. You could for example limit SSH connections to certain ip addresses, redirect connections at port 25 to spamd, etc, etc. There's a very good user's guide & overview of pf at: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:31:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6EF16A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:31:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D1F43D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0C4VTM50849; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:31:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:31:29 -0600 From: John To: albi Message-ID: <20050111223129.A50823@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050111092004.A47739@starfire.mn.org> <41E3EFF2.60100@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <41E3EFF2.60100@scii.nl>; from albi@scii.nl on Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 04:25:38PM +0100 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to back-rev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:31:37 -0000 On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 04:25:38PM +0100, albi wrote: > John wrote: > > > I think I may have been too eager to go to Major Release 5 of FreeBSD. > > I'm having a lot of trouble with my laptop - with my WIFI cards > > freezing the system, and trying to make the swith from XFree86 > > to Xorg. > > if i were you i would backup your data and try a fresh 5.3 install, > one other thing to try first is to boot without ACPI You are right, albi! Turning off ACPI took care of the lock up. Thanks! I do miss the power management, though. Now I need to figure out how to turn off just the part that is causing the problem. I am currently trying to remove all the XFree86 and kde modules from 5.2.1 so that I can put in the Xorg stuff from 5.3. If there's a procedure for that somewhere, that'd be awesome. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:35:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E2E16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:35:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf37.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf37.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5941343D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:35:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip24.cluster1.charter.net (mxip24a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.154])j0C4ZDTj001524 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:35:13 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip24.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 11 Jan 2005 23:35:12 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,117,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="181287945:sNHT16876284" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <57ACF400-6453-11D9-A619-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-495774864" To: Freebsd-Questions (E-mail) From: Eric F Crist Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:35:10 -0600 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: SA, Bayes, and You (erm, Me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:35:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-495774864 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello list, Here's a question for anyone familiar with SpamAssassin. I've trained my bayes database with a few hundred pieces of ham and spam, and my email filtering has gotten a lot better. However, when I read the headers of any messages, I notice that they ALL say 'autolearn=no', even though I've enabled autolearn in local.cf (bayes_auto_learn 1). Here's an example: X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=18.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100,RAZOR2_CHECK,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET, RCVD_IN_DSBL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * 1.0 FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS From: ends in numbers * 1.2 MIME_HTML_MOSTLY BODY: Multipart message mostly text/html MIME * 0.1 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 0.1 HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE BODY: HTML font color not in safe 6x6x6 palette * 1.1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 BODY: Razor2 gives confidence between 51 and 100 * [cf: 100] * 5.4 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% * [score: 1.0000] * 1.0 RAZOR2_CHECK Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/) * 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address * [220.30.172.98 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] * 0.7 RCVD_IN_DSBL RBL: Received via a relay in list.dsbl.org * [] * 1.5 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net * [Blocked - see ] * 4.9 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL * [220.30.172.98 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org] * 1.7 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did non-local SMTP * [220.30.172.98 listed in combined.njabl.org] thanks for the input. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-495774864 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHkqP4ACgkQRAAY9knOW+qoTQCfVem7ajrolzVJBdNjE5kRmZSZ /vIAoIG/DOm2IoTqP5dfS36nx/djXpvu =Vs72 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-495774864-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:40:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E0116A55A for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:40:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22C943D49 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:40:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0C4eAj65139; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Peter Risdon" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:40:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1105349525.708.313.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Webmail Frontend to mailboxes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:40:25 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter Risdon > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:32 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Colin J. Raven; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: RE: Webmail Frontend to mailboxes. > > Surely the easiest way to deal with a horde installation on FreeBSD is > to install the ports, Now, yes. Then, no - as the versions of the various bits in the ports had security holes in them. And also IMP wasn't completely in the ports dirs when I first started dealing with it. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:47:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAFC16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:47:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web15509.mail.cnb.yahoo.com (web15509.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.165.102.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D59AC43D5C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:47:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freehomesp@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20050112044716.1107.qmail@web15509.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Received: from [219.243.36.231] by web15509.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:47:16 CST Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:47:16 +0800 (CST) From: Peng Shan To: freebsdmailinglist In-Reply-To: <447jmkm4s6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: A question occured when installing FreeBSD5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:47:19 -0000 "The boot menu offers you the option of booting without ACPI. That should get your system to boot." Sorry,I forget to tell that this prompt occur when I use the 6 boot item and input "boot -v". Almost all the item included boot with ACPI disabled,every time booting stopped with the screen displaying "ad0:38154MB[77520/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0:CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 " And there are other prompt with other booting items: unknown: cannot assign resources(ports) unknown:cannot assign resources(irq) unknown:cannot assign resources(ports fdc0:cannot allocate I/O port 6 ports configured irq 4 not in the bitmap of probed irqs 0 Those two error prompts occured before the first error. Is there anyone know the problem?? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? ×¢²áÊÀ½çÒ»Á÷Æ·ÖʵÄÑÅ»¢Ãâ·ÑµçÓÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:52:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA5916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:52:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43A743D41 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:52:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (user-33qt992.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.165.34]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E231B17D028; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:52:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:52:11 -0500 To: Giorgos Keramidas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:52:20 -0000 On Jan 11, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-01-11 19:52, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: >> >> summary: should I disable hypertheading in the BIOS when running 5.3? >> [...] >> If YES, I wasn't clear if people meant "disable in BIOS" or just some >> configuration setting in a *.conf file. > > FWIW, that should be enough, as far as FreeBSD is concerned. sorry to be dense, but which should be enough, BIOS or conf file? is the default to use or not use hyperthreading in the kernel/conf? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 04:59:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAC116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:59:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.dtcorp.com.au (teksup41.lnk.telstra.net [165.228.0.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6178C43D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:59:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael@dtcorp.com.au) Received: from [192.9.200.20] (ws10.lan [192.9.200.20]) by mail.dtcorp.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id j0C4xRA57893 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:59:28 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from michael@dtcorp.com.au) Message-ID: <41E4AE3D.8050601@dtcorp.com.au> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:57:33 +1100 From: Michael Pope User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041210) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: ASUS P5P800 motherboard compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:59:28 -0000 Is the ASUS P5P800 motherboard chipset for onboard sound, raid and network compatible with FreeBSD? -- Michael Pope Software Engineer Digitech Corporation Ph: +61 3 9642 4032 Fax: +61 3 9602 1889 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:02:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E5A16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:02:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6037E43D49 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so786109wri for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:02:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=P6GsncGKFIS2yS4dRuadeZpwpEO+9V73HEcMM41e6hx9K98nGEBJzQ27Xybnfvn6tVp1ajaXei/E7vJ8oe/vdCEAZ5snMKnHARx55iQcxP9nbVbPe9xpp3EyXg0ZFsUn1DwF5OBGnTUSF1C+xldYC7d9BvlXRjmcA9oY9LIqyUQ= Received: by 10.54.59.11 with SMTP id h11mr273614wra; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:02:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:02:37 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:02:39 -0000 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:52:11 -0500, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > sorry to be dense, but which should be enough, BIOS or conf file? > > is the default to use or not use hyperthreading in the kernel/conf? By default the system will detect a HTT processor, but can only launch the second 'virtual' CPU core if you recompile the kernel with the SMP option enabled. I'm personally unclear why it'd be necessary to disable HTT in the BIOS if you're using a non-SMP kernel on a uniproc box. I'm experiencing some strangeness with a uniproc HTT-capable machine and SATA with either SMP or non-SMP kernels, so I'll try turning off HTT in the BIOS later this week and see if that helps. Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:07:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C16616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:07:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4D743D5C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:07:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0651D1C00143 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:07:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E15081C00141 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:07:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:07:26 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1754789974.20050112060726@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E48902.2070701@vonostingroup.com> References: <41E481F9.7080508@sbcglobal.net> <41E48902.2070701@vonostingroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:07:28 -0000 Frank J. Laszlo writes: FJL> Yahoo most likely runs some home-brewed version of FreeBSD. highly FJL> customized for their needs. Why do you say that? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:09:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F167816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:09:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018CB43D4C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:09:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0C59Nko084403 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:09:23 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0C59Nu7084400; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:09:23 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:09:23 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501120509.j0C59Nu7084400@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: ecrist@secure-computing.net In-reply-to: <57ACF400-6453-11D9-A619-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> (message from Eric F Crist on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:35:10 -0600) X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SA, Bayes, and You (erm, Me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:09:26 -0000 > However, when I read the > headers of any messages, I notice that they ALL say 'autolearn=no', > even though I've enabled autolearn in local.cf (bayes_auto_learn 1). There is something with the threshold for auto learning. olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:11:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0094216A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:11:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78C843D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0C5BnC1084517 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:11:49 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0C5BnjO084514; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:11:49 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:11:49 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501120511.j0C5BnjO084514@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> (message from Bryan Fullerton on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:02:37 -0500) X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:11:52 -0000 > I'm personally unclear why it'd be necessary to disable HTT in the > BIOS if you're using a non-SMP kernel on a uniproc box. Maybe for the same reason you should better not use a non-SMP kernel if you have 2 CPU in your box. Try to keep hardware (BIOS) and OS consistent, even if they are supposed to know how to deal with inconsistencies. Olkivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:14:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9422516A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:14:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D38F43D53 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:14:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so786568wri for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:14:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EzMnwDKxQv3QZobo6Oqla+KZI2S7mfnfiZL0EQFaXmTfonHD/L1b3s4riK9ufp87/66cPcHL4djLuDmpmLalq9PfhtgNFhbjpoDB6nqbX6NFoCOKQtaSlc9ep4rYDvjGE8IJkOMKkcnMs8qoN0Fbh5oylIUVt4slKklFoVRO2cc= Received: by 10.54.19.47 with SMTP id 47mr363687wrs; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:14:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c3005011121141b66f99e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:14:11 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:14:12 -0000 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:54:29 -0500, Brian Drulard wrote: > returned "error can't find kernel source tree" Sounds like there's no kernel source in /usr/src/sys on your machine. Section 8.3 of the Handbook has details on how to get it there. Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:19:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2FB16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:19:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428E443D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0C5JPj65395; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:19:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Shane Ambler" , "FreeBSD Mailing Lists" , Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:19:25 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:19:27 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Shane Ambler > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:40 AM > To: FreeBSD Mailing Lists; dkelly@hiwaay.net > Subject: Re: I quit > > > Out of interest - it was microsoft that stopped Mac OS X for > intel being > released. Many don't remember or just don't discuss - when > apple bought out > NeXT - it was running on intel hardware and the first > developer release of > OS X included an intel version Don't put too much credence in this - an intel version isn't much good to anyone if it only runs on one single motherboard model # in the world. - then came the publicity deal > between MS and > Apple - MS agreed to continue development of office for mac and bought > $150000 in Apple stock and Apple agreed to drop all the > lawsuits against MS. > > The intel version has never been heard of since. > This is really stretching it. Microsoft has little to fear from Apple bringing out an Intel version of MacOS X, they are much more afraid of Linux. There's really 3 major overriding problems that Apple would have to overcome before doing an intel port of MacOS X: 1) It would lose them immediate sales of Apple hardware since a good number of Mac users would stop buying PowerPC gear. This is particularly true in corporations. Most corporate IT departments cannot stand any gear that doesen't meet the corporate cookie-cutter standard, ie: Mac gear, and even if they have users who are rabid Mac users, if they could field MacOS X on standard Wintel hardware they would do so in a second. Perhaps in the long term they would make up lost revenue on hardware sales by increasing their market share, but there would be an immediate short-term sales loss. And also keep in mind most Mac gear still goes through local Mac dealers, it's not sold online like Dell/HP/Compaq/IBM/Gateway pc gear, if you were a local Mac dealer and all the sudden you had every corner cloner shop undercutting you on sales of Apple Macalikes, you would probably tell Apple 'screw you buddy, I'm going to start selling Wintel clones' 2) Apple selling MacOS X on Wintel gear puts it in direct competition with the corner cloners selling Wintel boxes with RedHat preloads, and they are going to lose big time there. Not to mention the inevitable Macintosh applications that will run on Mac hardware and need to be rebuilt for Macalike hardware, due to stupid bugs and such. 3) If your a conspiracy theorist consider what would happen if Apple were to abandon IBM processors and start using Intel CPU's. Intel nearly got nailed on antitrust violations itself, remember, and it was only because Intel was very eager to negotiate with the FCC and readily submitted to all kinds of restrictions that the entire matter was quietly swept under the rug. (unlike the Microsoft fiasco which did a lot of damage to Microsoft's image, and emboldened the Europeans to nail them) Intel almost certainly would not want to see this as it would increase their market share to unhealthy levels, to the point where they would be at serious risk of an antitrust lawsuit despite their previous cooperation. It is in Intel's interest to see processor competition for PC hardware - quite obviously not a huge amount - but enough so that they are safe from accusations of monopolistic practices. Apple could not move to Intel in a production capacity without good cooperation from Intel, and Intel wouldn't want to cooperate with them because they wouldn't want them to move to Intel chips. > The fact that they maintain the intel version of darwin means they can > release an intel version at any time. The fact that they maintain it is because they want to get free development time from the open source community. > > But then maybe they want their bases open so they can change > their hardware > to intel - they fell out with motorola and now get the G5's > from IBM. This is a fantasy. Apple makes more money in one year than you, I, and most likely everyone else on this list will see in a lifetime. Yes, their annual sales are dwarfed by Microsoft's - but they still have money coming out of their arseholes. There comes a time when the money made by an organization doesen't translate anymore into the tangible things it means to you and I - like food, a home, a car, some free time, etc. - and simply becomes a meaningless number with a bunch of zeros behind it. So what - the other guy has more zeros behind his take than you do - both of you have so much money that you could spend the rest of your life boffing every Sports Illustrated model that poses in the swimsuit edition if you felt like it. It becomes nothing more than a game for all of these people. > And > there have been times before OS X when they looked at getting > the Mac OS > running on intel hardware - it was between intel and motorola > before they > changed to the RISC based PPC. > Times change. There was a time that Apple was seriously in danger of collapsing. They have got past that and now have their annoying little niche dug in the industry, it's a comfortable niche for them and the industry has come to the realization that they can't be dug out of there, so the industry has given up trying to do it. But, if Apple is stupid enough to try climbing out of that niche they are going to get squashed - because they are still an annoyance to a great many people in the industry. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:21:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF7816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:21:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D47C43D53 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:21:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 455591C0014A for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2C11E1C00148 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:21:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:21:18 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <509984787.20050112062118@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501120511.j0C5BnjO084514@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> (message from Bryan Fullerton on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:02:37 -0500) <200501120511.j0C5BnjO084514@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:21:20 -0000 Olivier Nicole writes: ON> Maybe for the same reason you should better not use a non-SMP kernel ON> if you have 2 CPU in your box. Is a hyperthreading CPU identical to a second CPU from the software's standpoint? If not, what are the differences? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:24:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84DB16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:24:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB5B43D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:24:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0C5OuZY084918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:24:56 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0C5OuwT084915; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:24:56 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:24:56 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501120524.j0C5OuwT084915@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <509984787.20050112062118@wanadoo.fr> (message from Anthony Atkielski on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:21:18 +0100) X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:24:58 -0000 > Is a hyperthreading CPU identical to a second CPU from the software's > standpoint? If not, what are the differences? I am not sure, but it is some how detected as 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:29:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653AE16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:29:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44AE43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:29:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1E77F56458; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:29:01 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:29:01 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Bryan Fullerton Message-ID: <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:29:02 -0000 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 12:02:37AM -0500, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:52:11 -0500, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > > sorry to be dense, but which should be enough, BIOS or conf file? > > > > is the default to use or not use hyperthreading in the kernel/conf? > > By default the system will detect a HTT processor, but can only launch > the second 'virtual' CPU core if you recompile the kernel with the SMP > option enabled. Not true on 5.3+ GENERIC systems. If you look at dmesg, you'll see the second virtual CPU launched as well as the extra column in top(1) if you enable HTT in the BIOS. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesus saves. Allah forgives. Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:34:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A713916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:34:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DC943D53 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:34:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (user-33qt9b7.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.165.103]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7866C17D026; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:34:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0D509666-643F-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <0D509666-643F-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:34:41 -0500 To: David Kelly , Chuck Swiger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:34:49 -0000 On Jan 11, 2005, at 9:09 PM, David Kelly wrote: > The benefits of HT are too few for me to risk trashing the fs now its > full. That's a good enough reason for me. >> Iif YES, I wasn't clear if people meant "disable in BIOS" or just some >> configuration setting in a *.conf file. > > In the BIOS. Thanks... >> (disabling HT will apparently mean I have to reinstall XP on the other >> drive. > > What does XP have to do with it? Sorry to be unclear, XP is on the other drive. I called Creative Tech Support today to inquire why XP might die (BSOD) immediately on driver install for the serial port modem I bought from them. He immediately diagnosed this as a machine with HT enabled, and said that the way that IRQs are assigned is "different". (Someone else told me that Creative released new drivers but they hadn't helped.) He said the only way to use the modem would be to a) get a USB version [which I assumed wouldn't work well with FreeBSD] or b) disable HT, but because XP installs itself "differently" if it senses a "multiprocessor" I would have to reinstall. > IIRC on Dell its F2 during the power-on diagnostics to reach the > built-in BIOS config. That is where HT is to be disabled. Works > exactly that way on my PowerEdge 400SC 2.8G P4. The only question is > whether the key is F2 to get there or not. Was F2 this afternoon on my > ancient Dell Optiplex 450 MHz P2 when I had to boot a DOS floppy to > remap some bad blocks. Yup, mine is the same way. Shows "Setup F2" in initial flash screen (and F12 for 'boot menu' which, among other things, will let you manually boot from a 2nd hard drive, which is nice in case the OS on your 1st hard drive overwrites the MBR on reinstall (*cough like Windows cough*). [just arrived] On Jan 11, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > [ It doesn't surprise me that one would want or have to reinstall XP > after disabling HyperThreading. There exist even less comprehensible > reasons which oblige people to reinstall Windows.... ] Well I may reinstall Windows for other reasons, including setting up a FAT32 partition that I can access r/w from FreeBSD and to fix the modem problem... not to mention the fact that Dell installs all this crap by default such as McAfee Virus Scanner (which is basically just an attempt to get people to buy it when it "expires"). Reinstalling Windows is so common I can now pretty much time the few steps I have to go interactive with it without it a) sitting idle or b) taking me away from getting real work done. TjL ps - thanks to all who responded. I'm going to disable HT, boot to FreeBSD and try another large file transfer and see if I see the large delays. If no, I'll copy the files I need off the XP drive and reinstall XP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:52:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A28216A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:52:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4142F43D2D; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:52:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (user-33qt9b7.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.165.103]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D96717D021; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:51:59 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:51:54 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Subject: How dangerous is HFS+ in FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:52:01 -0000 I have an external 60GB Firewire drive currently (stupidly) formatted in HFS+ (Mac OS X "Extended"). I'd like to get all the files off of the drive and onto my FreeBSD machine (which has firewire card installed, although I've yet to try and tackle mounting it). http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ was the place to turn, but there are several very ominous warnings about using it for important data. I was curious as to whether this was just one of those "cover your behind" disclaimers or a "really, don't use this for anything important" disclaimers. TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 05:53:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8590F16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:53:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from calmail-be4.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7CC43D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:53:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keshavs@calmail.berkeley.edu) Received: from [24.6.254.137] (account keshavs@calmail.berkeley.edu) by calmail-be4.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 1327701 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:53:31 -0800 From: "SRINIVASAN, KESHAV" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:53:31 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Sound not working - none of the other posts helped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:53:31 -0000 I'm using the latest 5.3-stable build along with the Xfce4 window manager. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy card. I don't have the line 'device sound' in my kernel, but I have the following two lines in my loader.conf file: sound_load="YES" snd_emu10k1_load="YES" Sound doesn't work in X (tried playing an MP3 using a graphical MP3 player). It doesn't work in command line either (tried using a console MP3 player as well). Any idea how to fix this? Thanks, Keshav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 06:20:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C4116A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:20:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A82E43D5E for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:20:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E30C91C001C3 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:20:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BD49B1C001C9 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:20:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:20:14 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <167683180.20050112072014@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:20:17 -0000 Jonathan Chen writes: JC> Not true on 5.3+ GENERIC systems. If you look at dmesg, you'll see the JC> second virtual CPU launched as well as the extra column in top(1) if JC> you enable HTT in the BIOS. Well, now I'm confusing. I have an Asus P4P800-E Deluxe MB with an Intel P4 processor mounted on it, and dmesg looks like this: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Mon Dec 27 05:52:34 CET 2004 root@freebie.atkielski.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBIE ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2998.57-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 1073414144 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1045057536 (996 MB) ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.P0P1 - AE_NOT_FOUND pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) [...] Do I have two processors or not? The BIOS says that hyperthreading is enabled (and it wouldn't say anything at all if the processor were not HT-capable, according to the manual). Where's the second logical processor? I recompiled my own kernel but I didn't modify any of the CPU stuff (I don't think). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 06:29:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BAA16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:29:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE6243D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:29:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hoe-waa@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-66-8-190-99.hawaii.rr.com [66.8.190.99])j0C6TlkM019413; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:29:47 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Marella To: Daniel Bye In-Reply-To: <20050111103848.GA23691@catflap.slightlystrange.org> References: <1105332185.1028.4.camel@p4> <20050111103848.GA23691@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:24:35 -1000 Message-Id: <1105511075.746.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS export of evolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:29:50 -0000 On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 10:38 +0000, Daniel Bye wrote: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 06:43:05PM -1000, Robert Marella wrote: > > > > I have a SOHO set up with several computers running a mix of FreeBSD 5.3 > > Release and Stable. I have an NFS server set up so that data can be > > shared at all of the computers. > > > > I would like to have the ability to retrieve mail from any of the > > computers I happen to be logged into. I have tried various permutations > > of exporting /home, /home/reg-user, and /home/reg-user/.evolution and I > > always get the same error when trying to read mail. > > If your main concern is being able to read/send email from any host on > the network, why not run an IMAP server? > > I use use courier-imap from the ports on a machine that, among many > other things, also exports nfs file systems. It's easy to get working, > and works really well for a small setup. If you don't run your own smtp > server, you can retrieve mail from your ISP's pop or imap servers using > fetchmail, passing messages to procmail, which can deliver them in a > format that courier-imapd can understand. > > Just a thought. > > HTH > > Dan > Thanks Dan This will be the next project I will be doing. Robert -- Robert Marella From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 07:02:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BE816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:02:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C6043D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:02:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0C72Fj65818; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "artware" , Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:02:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Blacklisting IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:02:17 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of artware > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:06 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Blacklisting IPs > > > These types of attacks don't seem directed -- it's more like fishing > for unprotected systems. > > FWIW, changing the ssh port dropped the illegal user attempts > to 0 instantly... > I'm sure it did, why does that matter though? Your not intending to run an unprotected system? The point was that your no more secure than you were previously. Fishing attempts aren't what you need to worry about being protected from. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 08:04:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE4416A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:04:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-141-119.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.141.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F2843D4C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8EA37151A8C; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:11:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B038151A87; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:11:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:11:29 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: william gatlin In-Reply-To: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: References: <20050109085346.D88A823EE65@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I quit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:04:43 -0000 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, william gatlin wrote: > My opinion is that x.org isn't integrated quite well enough yet for prime time. My BSD books don't have the new > commands and other information to be of any use and the Man pages that downloaded were of no help either. So, use XFree. ports is still loaded with the XFree86 stuff. Use the old stuff. Just because x.org is default, does not mean you are stuck with it. I think, by and large, you are being unfair in your assesment. BSD, unlike the clones (linux, and their like) is a different kettle of fish. I love all of my BSD's. From my many FBSD boxes, to my OS X Darwin web server. FreeBSD is indeed ready for prime time. However, I think your assesment of what is "primetime" ready is flawed. By and large, you need to be able to read, and get "dirty" with things. > So for now I'm going to try to load Slackware and hope that maybe in a year BSD will be easier to wade through. I > have to admit a bit of sorrow in having to do this as I wanted them both on the same machine. Uhm. Slackware? You can't make FreeBSD work, and you are going to the real "roll your own" distro of linux? *shrugs*. I think by and large, you are, as I said, being unfair to FreeBSD. Having used RedHat, Debian, and having started with slackware many a year ago, I have to say, FreeBSD 5.3 is by far, some of the best UNIX experiences I have ever had. From install to operation. Documentation is stellar, and I have yet to encounter a problem that isint solvable by: 1) Searching the mailing list. 2) Reading the handbook. I think that says alot. -- Duo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 08:22:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069CE16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:22:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.tpgi.com.au (mail4.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BF743D3F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:22:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from agh@tpg.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (220-244-72-6.tpgi.com.au [220.244.72.6]) by mail.tpgi.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0C8MDbE009505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:22:24 +1100 From: "Alastair G. Hogge" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:25:13 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <00c301c4f825$fd1b7510$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> In-Reply-To: <00c301c4f825$fd1b7510$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501121925.13494.agh@tpg.com.au> X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed cc: Tom Connolly Subject: Re: Unreal Tournament ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:22:31 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:39, Tom Connolly wrote: > Does anyone know if I can play UT 2004 on FreeBSD. I'm running 5.3 r4. > > I've been googling and I have found very little information on the 2004 > version. > > Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question. I've been running the demo for sometime now. I had to copy some linux.lib from the doom3 demo to get it to run thou. The game runs great thou. > Thanks, > Tom -Alastair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 09:22:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107C916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:22:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mr.tuwien.ac.at (mr1-n.kom.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.2.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BA343D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:22:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from webmail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (lps.ben.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.74.11]) by mr.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id j0C9MbxT013278 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:22:37 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: V-webmail 1.5.1 ( http://www.v-webmail.co.uk/ ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:22:37 +0100 From: "Florian Hengstberger" To: FreeBSD mailinglist X-Vwebmail-Auth: e0025265@stud3.tuwien.ac.at X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Serial communication, terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:22:42 -0000 Hi! I have a microcontroller with an uart interface. I want to communicate with my computer through the serial port of my FreeBSD box. Is it somehow possible to connect the serial io to a xterm? Case it is not: I don't want to write a program myself - is there an existing program handling the io? Thank in advance Florian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 09:30:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE14916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:30:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C4643D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:30:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id D91582841C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:30:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 1252E2841A for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:30:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8A561BD for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:30:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0C9UK1h061636 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:30:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:30:20 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050112101204.L1613@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:30:29 -0000 Greetings all, I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. Two other possible options appeared to present themselves: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Option number one: /usr/local/libexec/mysqld Which yielded this output: 050112 01:19:57 [ERROR] Fatal error: Please read "Security" section of the manual to find out how to run mysqld as root! 050112 01:19:57 [ERROR] Aborting 050112 01:19:57 [Note] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete Well, I didn't find "the manual" onboard, and looking at *a* manual at: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/mysql-config-wizard-security.html hasn't (thus far) unlocked the cryptic nature of the warning above. ----------------------------------------------------------------- OK, option number two: /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe Starts a mysql process but also steals the command prompt from that screen window, so obviously although I have a running instance of mysql this isn't the way to do it. This is the result BTW root 93521 0.0 0.1 1652 1260 p2 I+ 10:22AM 0:00.02 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe mysql 93538 0.0 2.6 55596 26704 p2 S+ 10:22AM 0:00.17 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local --datadir=/var/ (rest of the output on the previous line is buried at the end of the screen which is annoying because I'd like to see what it is) Oh yes, there is a user and group mysql (the installer did that, not me) but there is no password for user mysql yet...dunno if it's necessary, but even if so, not done - yet. Guidance from those who have been there before would be greatly appreciated. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There IS only One - OS Wed Jan 12 10:27:00 CET 2005 10:27AM up 2 days, 13:56, 6 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.47, 0.65 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 09:35:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFAE16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:35:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D394F43D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:35:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-9.messagelabs.com!1105522543!12786561!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.5; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [194.129.126.228] Received: (qmail 29461 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2005 09:35:50 -0000 Received: from mailhost.capita.co.uk (HELO capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk) (194.129.126.228) by server-3.tower-9.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 09:35:50 -0000 Received: from capitawemnt07.central.ad.capita.co.uk (unverified) by capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:35:34 +0000 Received: by capitawemnt07.central.ad.capita.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:32:39 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Walker, Michael" To: "Colin J. Raven" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:35:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:35:59 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Colin J. Raven Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:30 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Trouble starting MySQL Greetings all, I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld from your rc.conf file. HTH Mick Walker ********************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error or think you may have done so, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. Please notify the sender immediately and delete the original e-mail from your system. Computer viruses can be transmitted by e-mail. Recipients should check this e-mail for the presence of viruses. 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([80.38.223.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 62sm7995rna.2005.01.12.01.37.50; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:37:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E4EFEF.9090400@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:37:51 +0100 From: Darksidex User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20050112101204.L1613@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050112101204.L1613@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:37:52 -0000 Colin J. Raven wrote: >Greetings all, >I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) >then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. > >Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No >error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. > >Two other possible options appeared to present themselves: >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Option number one: > >/usr/local/libexec/mysqld > >Which yielded this output: > >050112 01:19:57 [ERROR] Fatal error: Please read "Security" section of >the manual to find out how to run mysqld as root! >050112 01:19:57 [ERROR] Aborting >050112 01:19:57 [Note] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete > >Well, I didn't find "the manual" onboard, and looking at *a* manual at: >http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/mysql-config-wizard-security.html >hasn't (thus far) unlocked the cryptic nature of the warning above. > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >OK, option number two: > >/usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe > >Starts a mysql process but also steals the command prompt from that >screen window, so obviously although I have a running instance of mysql >this isn't the way to do it. >This is the result BTW >root 93521 0.0 0.1 1652 1260 p2 I+ 10:22AM 0:00.02 /bin/sh >/usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe >mysql 93538 0.0 2.6 55596 26704 p2 S+ 10:22AM 0:00.17 >/usr/local/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local --datadir=/var/ >(rest of the output on the previous line is buried at the end of the >screen which is annoying because I'd like to see what it is) > >Oh yes, there is a user and group mysql (the installer did that, not me) >but there is no password for user mysql yet...dunno if it's necessary, >but even if so, not done - yet. > >Guidance from those who have been there before would be greatly >appreciated. > >Regards, >-Colin >-- >Colin J. Raven >FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There IS only One - OS >Wed Jan 12 10:27:00 CET 2005 >10:27AM up 2 days, 13:56, 6 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.47, 0.65 > Did you added mysql_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 09:41:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B1116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:41:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F18943D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:41:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 4C0072841E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:41:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id B36292841A; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:41:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A289D61BD; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:41:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0C9fYkV062518; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:41:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:41:34 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Walker, Michael" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112103954.L1613@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:41:41 -0000 On Jan 12 at 09:35, Walker, Michael launched this into the bitstream: > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Colin J. Raven > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:30 AM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Trouble starting MySQL > > > Greetings all, > I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) > then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. > > Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No > error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. > > > > Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld from > your rc.conf file. > > HTH Yes it *did* help, but are you saying therefore that to start mysql righeously you have to reboot the box? I don't know any other way to make the OS re-read rc.conf. Many thenks for the light-speed response!!! -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 09:42:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D5816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:42:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web-17.seeweb.it (web-17.seeweb.it [212.25.166.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F12C43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:42:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matteo@tilde.it) Received: from [80.181.46.161] (host161-46.pool80181.interbusiness.it [80.181.46.161]) by web-17.seeweb.it (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id j0C9QRK06004; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:26:27 +0100 Message-ID: <41E4FF06.3060200@tilde.it> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:42:14 +0000 From: Matteo Santori User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <20050112101204.L1613@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050112101204.L1613@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:42:48 -0000 you SHOULD set a password root but that's not the problem releated with this error. (mysqladmin -u root password 'yourpassword') it looks like your mysqld is not started trought.. mysqld_safe --user=mysql your should check this. hope this help, M Colin J. Raven wrote: >Greetings all, >I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) >then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. > >Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No >error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. > >Two other possible options appeared to present themselves: >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Option number one: > >/usr/local/libexec/mysqld > >Which yielded this output: > >050112 01:19:57 [ERROR] Fatal error: Please read "Security" section of >the manual to find out how to run mysqld as root! >050112 01:19:57 [ERROR] Aborting >050112 01:19:57 [Note] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete > >Well, I didn't find "the manual" onboard, and looking at *a* manual at: >http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/mysql-config-wizard-security.html >hasn't (thus far) unlocked the cryptic nature of the warning above. > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >OK, option number two: > >/usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe > >Starts a mysql process but also steals the command prompt from that >screen window, so obviously although I have a running instance of mysql >this isn't the way to do it. >This is the result BTW >root 93521 0.0 0.1 1652 1260 p2 I+ 10:22AM 0:00.02 /bin/sh >/usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe >mysql 93538 0.0 2.6 55596 26704 p2 S+ 10:22AM 0:00.17 >/usr/local/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local --datadir=/var/ >(rest of the output on the previous line is buried at the end of the >screen which is annoying because I'd like to see what it is) > >Oh yes, there is a user and group mysql (the installer did that, not me) >but there is no password for user mysql yet...dunno if it's necessary, >but even if so, not done - yet. > >Guidance from those who have been there before would be greatly >appreciated. > >Regards, >-Colin >-- >Colin J. Raven >FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There IS only One - OS >Wed Jan 12 10:27:00 CET 2005 >10:27AM up 2 days, 13:56, 6 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.47, 0.65 > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:17:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8578116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:17:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABD343D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:17:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 4F87728421; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:18:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 99F3C2841E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:18:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F7560F5; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:17:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CAHo7Z000919; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:17:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:17:50 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Walker, Michael" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112111442.L802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:17:59 -0000 On Jan 12 at 09:35, Walker, Michael suggested: > > I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) > then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. > > Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No > error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. > > > > Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld from > your rc.conf file. > OK, I added the necessary stuff to /etc/rc.conf and attempted to start mysql via the mysql-server.sh script. Nothing doing. I rebooted the box, checked to see if mysql was running. It wasn't. I attempted once more to start it from the script - Nothing. OK, I'm back to where I started. Ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:20:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC84E16A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:20:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97EE343D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:20:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-17.tower-9.messagelabs.com!1105525231!16256227!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.5; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [194.129.126.228] Received: (qmail 12395 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2005 10:20:40 -0000 Received: from mailhost.capita.co.uk (HELO capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk) (194.129.126.228) by server-17.tower-9.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 10:20:40 -0000 Received: from ems-cenrou1.central.ad.capita.co.uk (unverified) by capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:20:28 +0000 Received: by EMS-CENROU1.central.ad.capita.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:20:28 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Walker, Michael" To: "Colin J. Raven" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:20:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:20:48 -0000 Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 12 at 09:35, Walker, Michael suggested: > >> >> I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) >> then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. >> >> Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. >> No error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. >> >> >> >> Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld >> from your rc.conf file. >> > OK, I added the necessary stuff to /etc/rc.conf and attempted to start > mysql via the mysql-server.sh script. Nothing doing. > > I rebooted the box, checked to see if mysql was running. It wasn't. > > I attempted once more to start it from the script - Nothing. > > OK, I'm back to where I started. > > Ideas? > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs > SkyScan service. 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The Capita Group and its subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. *********************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:23:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA33016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:23:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8117843D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:23:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 3E1722841E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:23:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 1C2EA28424; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:23:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4FA60F5; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:23:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CANZvF001289; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:23:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:23:35 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Walker, Michael" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112112234.U802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:23:43 -0000 On Jan 12 at 10:20, Walker, Michael then said: > Colin J. Raven wrote: >> On Jan 12 at 09:35, Walker, Michael suggested: >> >>> >>> I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) >>> then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. >>> >>> Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. >>> No error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. >>> >>> >>> >>> Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld >>> from your rc.conf file. >>> >> OK, I added the necessary stuff to /etc/rc.conf and attempted to start >> mysql via the mysql-server.sh script. Nothing doing. >> >> I rebooted the box, checked to see if mysql was running. It wasn't. >> >> I attempted once more to start it from the script - Nothing. >> >> OK, I'm back to where I started. >> >> Ideas? >> > > Did you added mysql_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf? > Yes, it's in there, as per your instructions :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:33:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD78016A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:33:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CC843D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:33:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 1FFE52841C; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:33:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 903C42841A; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:33:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069E2610A; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:33:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CAXLcU002406; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:33:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:33:21 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Walker, Michael" In-Reply-To: <20050112111442.L802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: <20050112112709.F802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050112111442.L802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL [SOLVED?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:33:30 -0000 On Jan 12 at 11:17, Colin J. Raven launched this into the bitstream: > On Jan 12 at 09:35, Walker, Michael suggested: > >> >> I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) >> then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. >> >> Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No >> error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. >> >> >> >> Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld from >> your rc.conf file. >> > OK, I added the necessary stuff to /etc/rc.conf and attempted to start > mysql via the mysql-server.sh script. Nothing doing. > > I rebooted the box, checked to see if mysql was running. It wasn't. > > I attempted once more to start it from the script - Nothing. > > OK, I'm back to where I started. BUT I pulled up webmin | Servers | MySQL Server adjusted paths to where stuff lives, hit "Start MySQL Server" and seemingly MySQL is now running. To wit: root 1329 0.0 0.1 1652 1208 ?? I 11:26AM 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --user=mysql mysql 1347 0.0 2.5 55852 25832 ?? S 11:26AM 0:00.14 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local --datadir=/var/ colin 1359 0.0 0.1 1476 896 p2 S+ 11:26AM 0:00.00 grep mysql Good, but I'm just puzzled why/how this worked from webmin. It doesn't make sense. One thing, it started mysql as can be seen above from /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe, which sure 'aint the script way. Then again, the "script way" from CLI didn't work. -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:36:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EE116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:36:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FBE43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:36:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0CAamSN010319; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:36:48 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j0CAaleH001382; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:36:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j0CAalK9001381; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:36:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:36:47 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Timothy Luoma Message-ID: <20050112103647.GA967@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:36:58 -0000 On 2005-01-11 23:52, Timothy Luoma wrote: >On Jan 11, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2005-01-11 19:52, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: >>> >>> summary: should I disable hypertheading in the BIOS when running 5.3? >>> [...] >>> If YES, I wasn't clear if people meant "disable in BIOS" or just some >>> configuration setting in a *.conf file. >> >> FWIW, that should be enough, as far as FreeBSD is concerned. > > sorry to be dense, but which should be enough, BIOS or conf file? Oh, sorry about that. I must have beel sleepy when I replied and missed that there were two questions there. I meant that disabling HT from the BIOS setup should be enough for FreeBSD too. > is the default to use or not use hyperthreading in the kernel/conf? AFAICT from reading /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c, hyper-threading support is always enabled in FreeBSD if it is also enabled in the BIOS. The mp_topology() function contains, among other stuff: 222 void 223 mp_topology(void) 224 { 225 struct cpu_group *group; 226 int logical_cpus; 227 int apic_id; 228 int groups; 229 int cpu; 230 231 /* Build the smp_topology map. */ 232 /* Nothing to do if there is no HTT support. */ 233 if ((cpu_feature & CPUID_HTT) == 0) 234 return; 235 logical_cpus = (cpu_procinfo & CPUID_HTT_CORES) >> 16; 236 if (logical_cpus <= 1) 237 return; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:48:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23CC16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:48:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.4nets.lv (126-4.zlt1.4nets.lv [217.199.126.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E96F43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:48:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atissita@navigator.lv) Received: from localhost (4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD237B3C05B for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.4nets.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23916-03 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from [217.199.123.36] (unknown [217.199.123.36]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id B897DB3C027 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:19 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E5012F.3070702@navigator.lv> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:51:27 +0200 From: zork User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> <20050111172251.GB47740@keyslapper.org> <41E419D6.4090107@navigator.lv> <20050111185109.GD47740@keyslapper.org> <41E43722.1090204@navigator.lv> <20050111203221.GI47740@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111203221.GI47740@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at 4nets.lv Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:48:06 -0000 hmm.. it turned out that the problem was not in the drivers or anywhere relevant. Some stupid network monitoring desktop applet (which counts incoming/outgoing IP packets) i had enabled just for fun was somehow causing this weird behavior. Since it didn't show up in the 'top' program or anywhere else for that matter I was fooled into believing that the problem might be in the drivers or somewhere.. I have no idea how it could manage to do something like that, it's also funny that some apps were unaffected. Anyway, now it all works for me. Thanks for the agp advice! Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/11/05 10:29 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > >>ok.. even though there wasn't anything useful in the Xorg logfile, >>after recompiling the kernel i get: >> >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 4x >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: disabled >> >>Now this almost doubles the frame rates, which is nice to see :) > > > Most Excellent Dude. > > >>Alas, the problem still remains :( > > > Totally Bogus. > > What app are you getting the hinky video from? > > >>Will try upgrading everything tomorrow.. > > > Most Righteous. > > Just make sure you get all the dependencies when you do. > > Good luck > Lou > > >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >> >>>Ok, according to your sysctls, you aren't getting the AGP acceleration >>>at all. >>> >>>Try adding these lines to your card device section: >>> Option "RenderAccel" "True" >>> Option "NvAGP" "1" # Use NVIDIAs agp >>> >>>Then restart X. >>> >>>Check your hw.nvidia.agp sysctls, particularly these: >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) >>> >>>You want status to be enabled, and rate to be 2x or 4x. >>> >>>>From the sysctls below, it looks like the NvAGP setting is already >>>turned on, so that appears to be a default. >>> >>>Since it's still not working, I suspect that if you check your >>>/var/log/Xorg.0.log file for warnings (WW) or errors (EE) related to AGP >>>use, you'll find something about the native FreeBSD AGP. If you are >>>using a GENERIC kernel ("uname -a" will tell you), that's almost >>>certainly what's happening. >>> >>>>From what I've read, the native FreeBSD AGP doesn't always work with >>>NVidia cards. You'll have to compile a custom kernel with the following >>>line removed: >>>device agp >>>Check here for details: >>>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html >>> >>>Also, I'd recommend updating your ports and upgrading Xorg. You might >>>also want to build and install the x11/nvidia-drivers port. >>> >>>Lou >>> >>>On 01/11/05 08:24 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>> >>> >>>>well, Xorg -version says >>>>X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 >>>> >>>>I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. >>>> >>>>I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. >>>> >>>>the device section: >>>> >>>>Section "Device" >>>> Identifier "MyGeForce" >>>> Driver "nvidia" >>>> VendorName "NVIDIA" >>>> BoardName "GeForce4 MX 440" >>>>EndSection >>>> >>>>the sysctls: >>>> >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000017:0x00000000 >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) >>>>hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 >>>>Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 >>>>hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 >>>>hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 >>>>hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP >>>> >>>>kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. >>>> >>>>I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. >>>> >>>>As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature >>>>which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? >>>> >>>>Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest >>>>versions and see what happens then. >>>>Not so sure that it would help though :( >>>> >>>>One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating >>>>to agp. How is it enabled? >>>> >>>>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Next set of questions: >>>>>Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or >>>>>as a package? >>>>> >>>>>Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from >>>>>ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? >>>>> >>>>>What is the card def block in your X config? >>>>> >>>>>What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: "sysctl hw.nvidia" just in >>>>>case)? >>>>> >>>>>Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last >>>>>week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems >>>>>there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just >>>>>not be able to get it working. >>>>> >>>>>My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. >>>>> My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. >>>>> NVidia GeForce FX5200. >>>>> Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. >>>>> Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports >>>>> Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. >>>>> >>>>>I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors >>>>>presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny >>>>>ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. >>>>>That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it >>>>>working. >>>>> >>>>>Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you >>>>>can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. >>>>> >>>>>Good luck. >>>>>Lou >>>>> >>>>>On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>well, yes. the module section looks like this: >>>>>> >>>>>>Section "Module" >>>>>> Load "freetype" >>>>>> # Load "xtt" >>>>>> Load "extmod" >>>>>> Load "glx" >>>>>> Load "dri" >>>>>> Load "dbe" >>>>>> Load "record" >>>>>> Load "xtrap" >>>>>> Load "type1" >>>>>> Load "speedo" >>>>>>EndSection >>>>>> >>>>>>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers >>>>>>>>for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL >>>>>>>>do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze >>>>>>>>for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, >>>>>>>>however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, >>>>>>>>and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules >>>>>>>>out system performance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Lou >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CE816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F2543D5C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.3.Beta0/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id j0CAnJvm028310; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:49:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:49:19 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:50:19 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:21:18 +0100 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Olivier Nicole writes: > >ON> Maybe for the same reason you should better not use a non-SMP kernel >ON> if you have 2 CPU in your box. > >Is a hyperthreading CPU identical to a second CPU from the software's >standpoint? If not, what are the differences? > Well, no, not exactly. The dual-cored CPUs share certain resources on the chip that are not shared in a multi-CPU situation, and that sharing means certain operations have to be handled differently. An MP setup has separate cache and TLB managment in each CPU, whereas P4 w/HT logical processors share this memory management circuitry. Alteration of a cache line requires notification of the other processor(s) in an MP situation to mark any corresponding line in its(their) cache(s) because multiple separate caches are involved, but notification is not necessary in the P4 w/HT situation because it's the same cache being seen by both logical processors. Alteration/invalidation of TLB entries requires notification to invalidate in an MP, so that the other CPU(s) can purge any corresponding TLB entries it(they) may have, but notification is not required in the P4 w/HT situation because both logical processors are refering to the same TLB. Again, unnecessary purging would be a performance hit. There must be some special handling of TLB entries in the P4 w/HT that I haven't seen documented. (There almost certainly is documentation; I just haven't seen it yet.) There must be some way to distinguish between TLB entries filled per orders of one logical processor from those filled per orders of the other logical processor. If there weren't, then one logical processor would use TLB entries for the address space running on the other logical processor, which would, of course, be Very Bad. But, to improve performance, there should be some way to share TLBs for the case of two threads running concurrently in the same address space. If anyone reading this knows the details of how this is handled in these chips, please post them here. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:02:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE28216A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:02:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650A443D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:02:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B197977C9; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:02:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])j0CB2WBs037762; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:02:39 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41E503C0.1020502@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:02:24 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041229) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp References: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> <1105435387.849.18.camel@localhost> <41E32005.2040403@mac.com> <20050111020445.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <41E35380.90908@mac.com> <1105534339.2062.16.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1105534339.2062.16.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAC6AEF0CBB668F1F663008B0" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:02:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAC6AEF0CBB668F1F663008B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Srot BULL wrote: > Hello again... > > On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 23:18 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > >>Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> >>>On 2005-01-10 19:38, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> >>[ ... ] >> >>>>Go to /etc/mail. Edit freebsd.cf (look for SMART_HOST), point it at your >>>>ISP's mail server. Do "make stop; make install; make start". >>> >>>FWIW, the file edited should be `freebsd.mc', not `freebsd.cf' otherwise >>>a subsequent "make install" will overwrite the edited `freebsd.cf' file >>>with a fresh copy generated from `freebsd.mc'. >> >>Err, yes, that's right. (I knew which file I meant. :-) >> >>Note that you can even copy freebsd.mc to hostname.mc, and the system will >>find it for you so you don't have to change the default template file. The >>Makefile explains this better than I did. > > > I did edit the file /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and changed the line containing > the SMART_HOST to > define(`SMART_HOST', `me.point.ne.jp') > and > # cd /etc/mail/ > # make stop > # make install > # make start > > Everything went well... > I now have a r40e.point.ne.jp.mc and the all.. > But, when I tried to send an Email to my yahoo.com account to test if it > is working... > > Here is what came back to my InBox: > The original message was received at Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:34:41 GMT > from localhost [127.0.0.1] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 554 : Relay access denied) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to vc.point.ne.jp.: > >>>>DATA > > <<< 554 : Relay access denied > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable > <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients > > It seems that I was not allowed to relay my email so I tried the > archives and then I tried reading the README file > at /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README > and found something about: > > Providing SMTP AUTH Data when sendmail acts as Client > ----------------------------------------------------- > > I read a little and did what I understood: > 1) created a /etc/mail/authinfo file with the following > AuthInfo:point.ne.jp "U:myusername" "I:myusername" "P:password" > AuthInfo:me.point.ne.jp "U:myusername" "I:myusername" "P:password" > > Did a > # cd /etc/mail/ > # make stop > # make install > # make start > No problems but still I can not send Emails using sendmail... > > Any hints...Or am I going the wrong direction here and probably messed > my configuration badly now...? No -- what you've done so far is fine. However there are several possible ways for your ISP to control access to their mail server and you'll need to talk to them to find out exactly what you should do. How did you manage to send the e-mail I'm replying to? I see from your message headers you're using the Evolution mail client, so presumably you've configured it to speak SMTP directly to the ISPs mail servers? What settings did you have to put into Evolution to make it work? It should be possible to deduce from that how to configure sendmail to work similarly, although it may take someone more familiar with Evolution than I am to join up all the dots. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enigAC6AEF0CBB668F1F663008B0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQeUDyJr7OpndfbmCAQIjSwP/Q6395KMVV0mFzeSCBffQg5hvIsMUcSzG BMhO/+7JN7RBpWHcw1Bmc7+uS4EcdO0+k1YgJDtc+ZaZ1sx5lR6ATg5OjYGboJF5 XfnepEMnOCjd4dgzt9Cnfzh9iA8rmgTiT702vzJTGf8rFUZzPMCr2/hAZ5SkoRlD HGX+uff7cPE= =NJeJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAC6AEF0CBB668F1F663008B0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:09:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DC116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:09:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf17.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf17.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A4843D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:09:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip25.cluster1.charter.net (mxip25a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.155])j0CB95U0016884 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:09:05 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip25.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2005 06:09:04 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,118,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="173346686:sNHT32895558" In-Reply-To: <20050112112234.U802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050112112234.U802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-519406522" Message-Id: <5D403720-648A-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:09:01 -0600 To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: "Walker, Michael" cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:09:07 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-519406522 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 12, 2005, at 4:23 AM, Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 12 at 10:20, Walker, Michael then said: > >> Colin J. Raven wrote: >>> On Jan 12 at 09:35, Walker, Michael suggested: >>> >>>> >>>> I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) >>>> then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. >>>> >>>> Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. >>>> No error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql >>>> either. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld >>>> from your rc.conf file. >>>> >>> OK, I added the necessary stuff to /etc/rc.conf and attempted to >>> start >>> mysql via the mysql-server.sh script. Nothing doing. >>> >>> I rebooted the box, checked to see if mysql was running. It wasn't. >>> >>> I attempted once more to start it from the script - Nothing. >>> >>> OK, I'm back to where I started. >>> >>> Ideas? >>> >> >> Did you added mysql_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf? >> > > Yes, it's in there, as per your instructions :-) That is *actually* supposed to be mysqld_enable="YES". You're missing the 'd'. If you read the script located in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, you'll see a comment of the exact line to add to your rc.conf file. To start a server without rebooting the system, simply type the following (this example is for mysqld): # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysqld.sh start HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-519406522 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHlBU0ACgkQRAAY9knOW+ptygCdEM0uuEUTFqdUy4lClHHQMSjV 13AAniM2CkuaIQi8Tno4Ek+n+eBrCdjV =nOA9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-519406522-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:15:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EE216A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:15:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A3843D46 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:15:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0CBFghT021014 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:15:43 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j0CBFg9D017524 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:15:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j0CBFgvb017523 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:15:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:15:42 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050112111542.GA1651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> <167683180.20050112072014@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <167683180.20050112072014@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:15:45 -0000 On 2005-01-12 07:20, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Jonathan Chen writes: > JC> Not true on 5.3+ GENERIC systems. If you look at dmesg, you'll see the > JC> second virtual CPU launched as well as the extra column in top(1) if > JC> you enable HTT in the BIOS. > > Well, now I'm confusing. I have an Asus P4P800-E Deluxe MB with an > Intel P4 processor mounted on it, and dmesg looks like this: > > FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Mon Dec 27 05:52:34 CET 2004 > root@freebie.atkielski.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBIE > ACPI APIC Table: > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2998.57-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 > Features=0xbfebfbff > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > real memory = 1073414144 (1023 MB) > avail memory = 1045057536 (996 MB) > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > npx0: [FAST] > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pcib1: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.P0P1 - AE_NOT_FOUND > pci1: on pcib1 > pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > [...] > > Do I have two processors or not? The BIOS says that hyperthreading is > enabled (and it wouldn't say anything at all if the processor were not > HT-capable, according to the manual). > > Where's the second logical processor? I recompiled my own kernel but I > didn't modify any of the CPU stuff (I don't think). You need to enable SMP too, to allow the FreeBSD kernel to use the second (hyper-threaded) CPU. My workstation is a P4 @ 2800, which does support HTT, but I haven't enabled SMP in my kernel configuration, so it is not used: % # grep 'options[[:space:]]*SMP' /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES % options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel % # grep 'options[[:space:]]*SMP' \ % /usr/src/sys/`uname -m`/conf/`uname -v | sed -e 's:.*/::' ` % # dmesg % Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. % Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 % The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. % FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 11 17:03:06 EET 2005 % root@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ORION % WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. % Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 % CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2806.37-MHz 686-class CPU) % Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf33 Stepping = 3 % Features=0xbfebfbff % Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs % real memory = 468647936 (446 MB) % avail memory = 449392640 (428 MB) % npx0: [FAST] % npx0: on motherboard % npx0: INT 16 interface % acpi0: on motherboard % acpi0: Power Button (fixed) % Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 % acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 % cpu0: on acpi0 % acpi_button0: on acpi0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:22:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45A916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:22:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD0F43D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:22:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9927228423; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:23:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 081E22841E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:23:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718096160; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:22:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CBMcHM005199; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:22:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:22:38 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: <5D403720-648A-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Message-ID: <20050112121653.K802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <5D403720-648A-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: "Walker, Michael" cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:22:51 -0000 On Jan 12 at 05:09, Eric F Crist launched this into the bitstream: >>> >>> Did you added mysql_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf? >>> >> >> Yes, it's in there, as per your instructions :-) > > That is *actually* supposed to be mysqld_enable="YES". You're missing the > 'd'. If you read the script located in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, you'll see a > comment of the exact line to add to your rc.conf file. > > To start a server without rebooting the system, simply type the following > (this example is for mysqld): > > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysqld.sh start > Umm, this is snipped directly from the script: # Add the following line to /etc/rc.conf to enable mysql: # mysql_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default. # Set it to "YES" to enable MySQL. Is that wrong? *Should* it be mysqld_enable-"YES" within the script? If so, that's a kind of major oversight on the mysql/freebsd teams' part no? I am in the company of gurus so I should really keep my n00b trap (mostly) shut - as is usually the case :) -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:24:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FD416A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:24:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCF943D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:23:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0CBNvA6002498; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:23:57 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j0CBNvau026504; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:23:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j0CBNtoM026464; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:23:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:23:54 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20050112112354.GB1651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <0D509666-643F-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> <41E49703.2030209@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E49703.2030209@mac.com> cc: David Kelly cc: "Timothy J. Luoma" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:24:00 -0000 On 2005-01-11 22:18, Chuck Swiger wrote: >David Kelly wrote: >>> (disabling HT will apparently mean I have to reinstall XP on the >>> other drive. >> >> What does XP have to do with it? IIRC on Dell its F2 during the >> power-on diagnostics to reach the built-in BIOS config. That is where >> HT is to be disabled. > > If you install and configure many flavors of Windows on a SMP system, > that installation will not work if you move that image to a uni-proc > system by swapping disks or otherwise removing CPU's (ie, by turning > off HT'ing). I last saw this with a Win2K system, which immediately > blue-screened with an "invalid SMP HAL" error very early in the boot. Moving a disk with Windows installed on it to another system has other problems too, although they are not (in general) as serious. Since the user doesn't have the source, many options are 'tuned by the installation process' to the system Windows is installed on. So it doesn't sound as surprising that it would require a reinstall when HTT is toggled :-) > [ It doesn't surprise me that one would want or have to reinstall XP after > disabling HyperThreading. There exist even less comprehensible reasons > which oblige people to reinstall Windows.... ] True. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:36:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA05416A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:36:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf02.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf02.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7755143D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:36:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip25.cluster1.charter.net (mxip25a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.155])j0CBaI3v008048 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:36:19 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip25.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2005 06:36:19 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,118,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="173351270:sNHT33455460" In-Reply-To: <20050112121653.K802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050112112234.U802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <5D403720-648A-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <20050112121653.K802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-521039612" Message-Id: <2AA407B4-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:36:14 -0600 To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: "Walker, Michael" cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:36:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3-521039612 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:22 AM, Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 12 at 05:09, Eric F Crist launched this into the bitstream: > >>>> >>>> Did you added mysql_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf? >>>> >>> >>> Yes, it's in there, as per your instructions :-) >> >> That is *actually* supposed to be mysqld_enable="YES". You're >> missing the >> 'd'. If you read the script located in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, you'll >> see a >> comment of the exact line to add to your rc.conf file. >> >> To start a server without rebooting the system, simply type the >> following >> (this example is for mysqld): >> >> # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysqld.sh start >> > > Umm, this is snipped directly from the script: > > # Add the following line to /etc/rc.conf to enable mysql: > # mysql_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default. > # Set it to "YES" to enable MySQL. > > Is that wrong? *Should* it be mysqld_enable-"YES" within the script? If > so, that's a kind of major oversight on the mysql/freebsd teams' part > no? > > I am in the company of gurus so I should really keep my n00b trap > (mostly) shut - as is usually the case :) > > -Colin I would check the /var/log/messages log file for anything related to mysql, in this case. There's a reason it won't start, and it'll be indicated there. My bad on the syntax. After looking, I have a script called mysql-server.sh that doesn't require an entry in rc.conf. What version of mysql are you using? Was it installed from ports? What version of FreeBSD? Thanks. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-3-521039612 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHlC68ACgkQRAAY9knOW+p8pACffmdklG7fx3IUFpMjP9aYo0N8 txMAnRtFAvEYDvO0BrYO3+FVCViyW9+i =O7rW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-3-521039612-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:37:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C0A16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:37:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf10.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf10.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1A443D3F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip25.cluster1.charter.net (mxip25a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.155])j0CBbPIG008837 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:37:25 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip25.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2005 06:37:26 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,118,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="173351474:sNHT32824952" In-Reply-To: <200501120509.j0C59Nu7084400@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200501120509.j0C59Nu7084400@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-5-521107775" Message-Id: <5346C474-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:37:22 -0600 To: Olivier Nicole X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SA, Bayes, and You (erm, Me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:37:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail-5-521107775 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 11, 2005, at 11:09 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> However, when I read the >> headers of any messages, I notice that they ALL say 'autolearn=no', >> even though I've enabled autolearn in local.cf (bayes_auto_learn 1). > > There is something with the threshold for auto learning. > > olivier I've got the threshold turned down to 6.0. Still nothing. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-5-521107775 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHlC/MACgkQRAAY9knOW+qbkACfennKT5ySC1jMGLVvYksQdcGI OMwAn0xq+n3evFC2SNaoS+fZxqL94Ih8 =pLIz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-5-521107775-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:43:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB32016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:43:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf37.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf37.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDF143D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:43:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip25.cluster1.charter.net (mxip25a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.155])j0CBh6PT027425 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:43:06 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip25.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2005 06:43:03 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,118,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="173352506:sNHT33221386" In-Reply-To: <001701c4f864$170729e0$0400a8c0@satellite> References: <57ACF400-6453-11D9-A619-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <001701c4f864$170729e0$0400a8c0@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-6-521442491" Message-Id: <1AC85B0D-648F-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:42:57 -0600 To: "dave" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: SA, Bayes, and You (erm, Me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:43:08 -0000 --Apple-Mail-6-521442491 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 11, 2005, at 11:03 PM, dave wrote: > Hi, > Can you tell me how you got to get bayes updated and trained and > those > headers? I'm using MailScanner which invokes sa and so forth and i am > not > seeing the detail nor am getting the results you are. > Thanks. > Dave. You can train the Bayes filter by using the sa-learn program. See man 1 sa-learn for more specific about how to use it. Basically, you take a minimum of 200 messages known to be spam (I use mbox format) and run it through such as: # sa-learn --showdots --mbox --spam /path/to/file You also need a minimum of 200 ham (non-spam) messages, using the following command (again, mbox format): # sa-learn --showdots --mbox --ham /path/to/ham/file SpamAssassin should learn on it's own and will begin invoking the Bayes filters once it's had the minimum of 200 messages of each spam/ham. If you want more accurate results, feed it more mail. I save spam I get and try to run a bunch of it through every few months, and I do the same with ham. HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-6-521442491 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHlDUEACgkQRAAY9knOW+qaqQCcCcJt7jHQlac0Mmun4QOQXSqr 9yMAoJIqUTO2JLfVbFEyBi0npvgxWaan =uByr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-6-521442491-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:43:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5B016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:43:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf39.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf39.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B6643D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:43:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip25.cluster1.charter.net (mxip25a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.155])j0CBhjBc014992 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:43:45 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip25.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2005 06:43:44 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,118,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="173352591:sNHT26071886" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3439F5D4-648F-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-7-521485179" To: Freebsd-Questions (E-mail) From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:43:40 -0600 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Fwd: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found (For GOOGLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:43:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail-7-521485179 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Begin forwarded message: > From: Srot BULL > Date: January 12, 2005 8:01:53 AM CST > To: Eric F Crist > Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found > Reply-To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp > > On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 22:21 -0600, Eric F Crist wrote: >> Try editing the /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file and search for a line that >> starts with LogLevel. By default, IIRC, it's set to 9. Change this >> to >> 25, and from /etc/mail type make restart. (Don't make/make install as >> you're loglevel will be reset. >> >> Try sending an email. As soon as you're client is done, go to the >> server and type: >> >> # tail -n 50 /var/log/maillog >> >> You should see some information regarding the authentication and if >> there were any errors or not. > > I did what you suggested above... > Well actually I do not know yet how to read log files but it seems that > there was no authentication but I did saw some errors if that is what > they are called like below? > > Jan 12 13:45:46 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: --- 050 > ... Connecting to vc.point.ne.jp. via relay... > Jan 12 13:45:46 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: SMTP outgoing > connect > on [192.168.0.3] > Jan 12 13:45:47 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: --- 554 5.0.0 > Service > unavailable (hold) > Jan 12 13:45:47 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: > to=, ctladdr= > (1001/1001), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30529, > relay=vc.point.ne.jp. [211.1.103.23], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service > unavailable > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: --- > 050 /home/srotbull/.forward: line 1: forwarding to "| > exec /usr/local/bin/procmail " > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: forward > => "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail " > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: j0CDjmsI002675: DSN: > Service unavailable > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjmsI002675: --- 050 "| > exec /usr/local/bin/procmail "... Connecting to prog... > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjmsI002675: --- 050 "| > exec /usr/local/bin/procmail "... Sent > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjmsI002675: to="| > exec /usr/local/bin/procmail ", ctladdr= > (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31553, > dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjmsI002675: done; > delay=00:00:00, > ntries=1 > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: done; > delay=00:00:02, > ntries=1 > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: NOQUEUE: --- 050 Closing connection > to vc.point.ne.jp. > > Can you see anything strange in here? By the way, I was googling and > found some articles on authinfo so I change my .mc file line's > from > FEATURE(`authinfo') > to > FEATURE(`authinfo', `hash -o /etc/mail/authinfo') > and the line in /etc/mail/authinfo > from > AuthInfo:me.point.ne.jp "U:pwd8jmr22w" "I:pwd8jmr22w" "P:jkvvjsua" > to > AuthInfo:me.point.ne.jp "U:pwd8jmr22w" "I:pwd8jmr22w" "P:jkvvjsua" > "M:LOGIN PLAIN" > > Are the above applicable? > Thanks for the response... > > Srot BULL > > > > > _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-7-521485179 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHlDWwACgkQRAAY9knOW+p9kwCdGSL76jmHMrpgw6PIRUa3YIBY GvIAnjEl73m9R3kMtv/kL6KvCPy/0NP/ =gBX8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-7-521485179-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:46:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2968B16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A174043D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 6167928423; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 7D6B72841A; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DB0615E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CBkO0D006106; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:24 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: <2AA407B4-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Message-ID: <20050112123657.R802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <5D403720-648A-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <2AA407B4-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: "Walker, Michael" cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:36 -0000 On Jan 12 at 05:36, Eric F Crist then said: > On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:22 AM, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > I would check the /var/log/messages log file for anything related to mysql, > in this case. There's a reason it won't start, and it'll be indicated there. There is nothing related to mysql in /var/log/messages - which now I come to think about it is odd. > My bad on the syntax. After looking, I have a script called mysql-server.sh > that doesn't require an entry in rc.conf. What version of mysql are you > using? Was it installed from ports? What version of FreeBSD? No problem :) mysql-4.1.7 installed from ports FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:47:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2A716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:47:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp04.eresmas.com (asmtp04.eresmas.com [62.81.235.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0BD43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:47:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.58] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp04.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cogy9-0002LU-7d; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:47:21 +0100 Received: from [80.103.55.106] (helo=[80.103.55.106]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Cogy8-00086I-8m; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:47:20 +0100 Message-ID: <41E45414.50805@wanadoo.es> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:32:52 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: whitevamp References: <41E3A901.7040307@wanadoo.es> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) cc: freebsd-questions-en Subject: Re: Confirmed: 5.3 installation do not work with 16 MB RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:47:25 -0000 > snip > i two had the same issues of not getting freebsd 4.9 , 4.10 or 5.3 > installed and running with 16 meg of ram on an old 233 box that i > whanted to use as a firewall/router .. so i put 32 in it and it works > just fine with 5.3-stable _______________________________________________ Thanks for the information! Nice to see that we are no alone! :-) Ramiro. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 11:48:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E5E16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:48:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf09.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf09.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4985943D54 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:48:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip24.cluster1.charter.net (mxip24a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.154])j0CBmHHK002444 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:48:18 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip24.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2005 06:48:16 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,118,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="181361186:sNHT17846852" In-Reply-To: <1105538513.2608.13.camel@localhost> References: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> <1105435387.849.18.camel@localhost> <41E32005.2040403@mac.com> <20050111020445.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <41E35380.90908@mac.com> <1105534339.2062.16.camel@localhost> <5DE83C55-6451-11D9-AA96-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <1105538513.2608.13.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-8-521757904" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:48:13 -0600 To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:48:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail-8-521757904 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 12, 2005, at 8:01 AM, Srot BULL wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 22:21 -0600, Eric F Crist wrote: >> Try editing the /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file and search for a line that >> starts with LogLevel. By default, IIRC, it's set to 9. Change this >> to >> 25, and from /etc/mail type make restart. (Don't make/make install as >> you're loglevel will be reset. >> >> Try sending an email. As soon as you're client is done, go to the >> server and type: >> >> # tail -n 50 /var/log/maillog >> >> You should see some information regarding the authentication and if >> there were any errors or not. > > I did what you suggested above... > Well actually I do not know yet how to read log files but it seems that > there was no authentication but I did saw some errors if that is what > they are called like below? > > Jan 12 13:45:46 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: --- 050 > ... Connecting to vc.point.ne.jp. via relay... > Jan 12 13:45:46 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: SMTP outgoing > connect > on [192.168.0.3] > Jan 12 13:45:47 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: --- 554 5.0.0 > Service > unavailable (hold) > Jan 12 13:45:47 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: > to=, ctladdr= > (1001/1001), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30529, > relay=vc.point.ne.jp. [211.1.103.23], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service > unavailable > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: --- > 050 /home/srotbull/.forward: line 1: forwarding to "| > exec /usr/local/bin/procmail " > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: forward > => "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail " > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: j0CDjmsI002675: DSN: > Service unavailable > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjmsI002675: --- 050 "| > exec /usr/local/bin/procmail "... Connecting to prog... > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjmsI002675: --- 050 "| > exec /usr/local/bin/procmail "... Sent > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjmsI002675: to="| > exec /usr/local/bin/procmail ", ctladdr= > (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31553, > dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjmsI002675: done; > delay=00:00:00, > ntries=1 > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: j0CDjksI002673: done; > delay=00:00:02, > ntries=1 > Jan 12 13:45:48 r40e sm-mta[2675]: NOQUEUE: --- 050 Closing connection > to vc.point.ne.jp. It looks like the server upstream, vc.point.ne.jp is unavailable, or otherwise not responding. I would try to ping the IP address of that server. If that succeeds, try to telnet on port 25 (telnet host 25) and type ehlo once connected. You should see a list of features on that server, including whether or not Authentication is available. In regards to the AuthInfo format, that looks right from my sendmail knowledge, but I've never used it, as I run a completely separate mail server, not a relay. I've forwarded this message, along with the original to the freebsd-questions list for google's sake. HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-8-521757904 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHlDn0ACgkQRAAY9knOW+qgXwCfaqude9yLuUlrSYjj5rKYY22n CAgAn1GZbVO/jJXyHQz0MkyQ5Eqcnofb =9ubI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-8-521757904-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 12:04:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C6E16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:04:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB8D43D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:04:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from craig.freebsd@online.de) Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CohEt-0006UH-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:04:39 +0100 Received: from [217.231.92.200] (helo=[192.168.0.90]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CohEt-00056V-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:04:39 +0100 Message-ID: <41E51252.7090906@online.de> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:04:34 +0100 From: craig Organization: small-pla.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041222) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:13d873e74d14c1363715808660186da0 Subject: 'cause the ports don't work... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: craig.freebsd@online.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:04:41 -0000 i've had a good couple of problems installing ports, either because of compilation issues, or because they were just not there. is there something i am missing? zB, i need to install stlport, and a quick search on www.freshports.org shows that it should be as easy as pkg_add -r stlport-gcc when i try that, however, it fails real quick with a 'unable to fetch' error. it is not alone in this, some port packages work. some not. when that fails, i typically go into the relevant /usr/ports/ directory and go through the make process. but for a port whose package failed, more often than not the make process fails too. am i missing something? i regularly update everything with portupgrade -arR and with cvsup. (on that note - portversion -l "<" tells me that openoffice is behind, but when i try to portupgrade it also fails...) any suggestions? -- craig@small-pla.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 12:42:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A3D16A4D0 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:42:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F14743D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:42:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so461260wri for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:42:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oYjuS/bnrO6flGIXR7lINekIjz5cqZv+j//ZHybsKlK1HAtQKJVvMrpfcGuH/KNf/MgUGkbmX1uUCb7iqODsGVBoiCzc3OIesx3OAzTabuUqA1O4Lmt5EQaPN1yzXPQ56aa8yqU0DiqQ8Q33adDufAVNMNzjFxy6HI0Hj1rmaVs= Received: by 10.54.8.5 with SMTP id 5mr121464wrh; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.54 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:42:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e050112044278e8ed92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:42:53 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: <57ACF400-6453-11D9-A619-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <57ACF400-6453-11D9-A619-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> cc: E-mail Freebsd-Questions Subject: Re: SA, Bayes, and You (erm, Me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:42:55 -0000 >From tha man pages..settings in local.cf bayes_auto_learn ( 0 | 1 ) (default: 1) bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam n.nn (default: 0.1) bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam n.nn (default: 12.0) Now this assumes that you have write access to the bayes DB files and directory. When you editted the local.cf did you restart spamd/amavis-new/MailScanner or whatever you use? A trick is use "spamassassin -D --lint message" as well so you can see a little more clearly whats (not) happening. -- martin On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:35:10 -0600, Eric F Crist wrote: > Hello list, > > Here's a question for anyone familiar with SpamAssassin. I've trained > my bayes database with a few hundred pieces of ham and spam, and my > email filtering has gotten a lot better. However, when I read the > headers of any messages, I notice that they ALL say 'autolearn=no', > even though I've enabled autolearn in local.cf (bayes_auto_learn 1). > Here's an example: > > X-Spam-Flag: YES > X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=18.9 required=5.0 > tests=BAYES_99,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, > HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY, > RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100,RAZOR2_CHECK,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET, > RCVD_IN_DSBL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL > autolearn=no version=2.64 > X-Spam-Report: * 1.0 FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS From: ends in numbers * 1.2 > MIME_HTML_MOSTLY BODY: Multipart message mostly text/html MIME * 0.1 > HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 0.1 > HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE BODY: HTML font color not in safe 6x6x6 palette * > 1.1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 BODY: Razor2 gives confidence between 51 > and 100 * [cf: 100] * 5.4 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam > probability is 99 to 100% * [score: 1.0000] * 1.0 RAZOR2_CHECK > Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/) * 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: > SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address * [220.30.172.98 > listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] * 0.7 RCVD_IN_DSBL RBL: Received via a > relay in list.dsbl.org * [] > * 1.5 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in > bl.spamcop.net * [Blocked - see > ] * 4.9 RCVD_IN_XBL > RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL * [220.30.172.98 listed > in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org] * 1.7 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL RBL: NJABL: dialup > sender did non-local SMTP * [220.30.172.98 listed in > combined.njabl.org] > > thanks for the input. > > _______________________________________________________ > Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" > Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 13:02:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190B116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:02:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CD643D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:02:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost.daemonsecurity.com [127.0.0.1]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D546EFD022; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:02:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E51FF8.4070400@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:02:48 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: craig.freebsd@online.de References: <41E51252.7090906@online.de> In-Reply-To: <41E51252.7090906@online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'cause the ports don't work... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:02:58 -0000 craig wrote: > i've had a good couple of problems installing ports, either because of > compilation issues, or because they were just not there. > is there something i am missing? You are writing to a community for most of which ports just works, please describe what makes your system specific. What is your ports-supfile? did you leave out parts you thought you didn't need? How can we tell if something is missing when you don't tell what you have? > zB, i need to install stlport, and a quick search on www.freshports.org > shows that it should be as easy as > pkg_add -r stlport-gcc > when i try that, however, it fails real quick with a 'unable to fetch' > error. You can fetch the package manually then install with 'pkg_add ', likewise if fetching the source fails try manually. Maybe it fails due to some firewall settings or proxy requirements. > when that fails, i typically go into the relevant /usr/ports/ directory > and go through the make process. > but for a port whose package failed, more often than not the make > process fails too. > > am i missing something? How can we tell, you haven't included which ports fail, nor any output error message. > i regularly update everything with portupgrade -arR and with cvsup. upgrading with portupgrade -arR is dangerous and may leave a mess behind. the manpage recommends running 'portsdb -Uu' after cvsup and before portupgrade and 'pkgdb -F' and 'portsclean -L' after portupgrade. failing this may leave some inconsistencies that can cause problems. 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For more information please visit http://www.bitdefender.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 13:24:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25AF16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:24:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yggdrasil.interstroom.nl (yggdrasil.interstroom.nl [80.85.129.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5DA43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:24:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from o.greve@axis.nl) Received: from ip127-180.introweb.nl ([80.65.127.180] helo=[192.168.1.30]) by yggdrasil with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CoiUT-0006vb-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:24:49 +0100 Message-ID: <41E52521.4080605@axis.nl> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:24:49 +0100 From: Olaf Greve User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41B857A0.2070906@leg.ensieg.inpg.fr> <41DE7DA3.8060206@axis.nl> <20050107132423.GA47763@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <41E3B040.4070709@axis.nl> <20050111172448.GB98271@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111172448.GB98271@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Interstroom virusscan, please e-mail helpdesk@interstroom.nl for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: Subject: How to transparently set-up two differently configured network interfaces? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:24:52 -0000 Hi all, I find myself with little time to find a neat solution for the following situation: We have a Shuttle on which fbsd 5.2.1 is installed. Now, the machine used to have just one network interface, of which I'd simply switch the settings when the machine needs to be used for demo purposes, rather than running in our local network. So, I just installed a second network interface, and I'd like the machine to become smart enough to do the following: -Boot, check if rl0 has a cable attached to it, and if so, use that as active network interface, with fixed settings (gateway, nameserver, and IPv4 address all set to 192.168.1.1). -if rl0 does not have a cable attached to it, use DHCP on interface rl1 and use that. Sounds relatively straightforward. So I set the settings of the rl0 and rl1 network interfaces (via sysinstall) to reflect just that. However, when doing so, the gateways seem to get shared, and just get set to 192.168.1.1. Can anyone point me to the proper means of setting this up properly? Normally I would RTFM regarding dhclient.conf and such, but unfortunately I find myself with very little time available for spending on it, so I hope someone can give me a quick pointer in the right direction... Cheerz! Olafo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 13:55:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EE516A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:55:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D0843D58 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:55:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 0D76A28421 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:55:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9DEA42841E for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:55:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12509616E for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:54:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CDsuRc015393 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:54:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:54:56 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" In-Reply-To: <20050112123657.R802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: <20050112144901.V802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <5D403720-648A-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <2AA407B4-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <20050112123657.R802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:55:03 -0000 On Jan 12 at 12:46, I said: > PHP 4.3.10 (cli) (built: Jan 11 2005 23:15:42) (DEBUG) > mysql-4.1.7 > both installed from ports > FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE When I take a look at a phpinfo page, it shows no mention that MySQL exists. AFAIK this ought not to be so. I installed php last night (again, from ports) and remembered that there oughtta be support for mysql. So this is how I built php, though now I'm wondering if I installed it correctly since it seems braindead to the existence of MySQL make with-mysql=yes install clean I'm beginning not to enjoy today at all (: Pointers would be gratefully received. -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:07:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAB416A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186443D2F; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:07:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j0CE76OJ056191; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:07:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <41E52F04.4030001@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:07:00 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041110 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Timothy Luoma References: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> In-Reply-To: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: How dangerous is HFS+ in FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:07:09 -0000 Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I have an external 60GB Firewire drive currently (stupidly) formatted in > HFS+ (Mac OS X "Extended"). I'd like to get all the files off of the > drive and onto my FreeBSD machine (which has firewire card installed, > although I've yet to try and tackle mounting it). > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ was the place to turn, but there are > several very ominous warnings about using it for important data. I was > curious as to whether this was just one of those "cover your behind" > disclaimers or a "really, don't use this for anything important" > disclaimers. If you are simply recovering your mp3's^H^H^H^H^Hdata, then just mount it read only, copy data, unmount.. After the copy, who cares if it trashes it? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology I have seen the future and it is just like the present, only longer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:09:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8E116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:09:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237C843D41 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:09:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CojBp-0004XS-MD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:09:37 -0900 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:09:37 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112140937.GA17381@akroteq.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:09:44 -0000 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:35:21AM -0000, Walker, Michael wrote: > > Greetings all, > I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) > then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. > > Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No > error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. > > > > Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld from > your rc.conf file. I am confused. I run FreeBSD 4.10 stable with mysql-server-4.0.21 installed from the ports. I have nothing in my rc.conf file for mysql, but I do have a /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh file. When I rebooted the machine last month, mysql started without anything in the rc.conf file. Why? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:12:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A2616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:12:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2518543D53 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:12:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-21.tower-9.messagelabs.com!1105539165!16222960!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.5; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [194.129.126.228] Received: (qmail 26626 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2005 14:12:46 -0000 Received: from mailhost.capita.co.uk (HELO capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk) (194.129.126.228) by server-21.tower-9.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 14:12:46 -0000 Received: from capitawemnt07.central.ad.capita.co.uk (unverified) by capitawemmime01.capita.co.uk ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:12:39 +0000 Received: by capitawemnt07.central.ad.capita.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:09:54 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Walker, Michael" To: "Colin J. Raven" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:12:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:12:50 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > On Jan 12 at 12:46, I said: > >> PHP 4.3.10 (cli) (built: Jan 11 2005 23:15:42) (DEBUG) mysql-4.1.7 >> both installed from ports >> FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE > > When I take a look at a phpinfo page, it shows no mention that MySQL > exists. AFAIK this ought not to be so. > > I installed php last night (again, from ports) and remembered that > there oughtta be support for mysql. So this is how I built php, though > now I'm wondering if I installed it correctly since it seems braindead > to the existence of MySQL > > make with-mysql=yes install clean > > I'm beginning not to enjoy today at all (: > > Pointers would be gratefully received. > > -Colin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs > SkyScan service. I don't have a FreeBSD box at work with me at the moment. But check out the following (Im assuming one to be correct) /usr/ports/lang/php-extentions /usr/ports/lang/php4-extentions If both are wrong, it is somewhere very similar. 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The Capita Group and its subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. *********************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:15:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075A616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:15:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950D943D53 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:15:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CojHT-0004Yj-F7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:15:27 -0900 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:15:27 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112141527.GB17381@akroteq.com> References: <20050112111442.L802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050112112709.F802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050112112709.F802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL [SOLVED?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:15:34 -0000 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:33:21AM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 12 at 11:17, Colin J. Raven launched this into the bitstream: > > > On Jan 12 at 09:35, Walker, Michael suggested: > > > >> > >> I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) > >> then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. > >> > >> Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No > >> error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. > >> > >> > >> > >> Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld from > >> your rc.conf file. > >> > > OK, I added the necessary stuff to /etc/rc.conf and attempted to start > > mysql via the mysql-server.sh script. Nothing doing. > > > > I rebooted the box, checked to see if mysql was running. It wasn't. > > > > I attempted once more to start it from the script - Nothing. > > > > OK, I'm back to where I started. > > BUT > I pulled up webmin | Servers | MySQL Server adjusted paths to where > stuff lives, hit "Start MySQL Server" and seemingly MySQL is now running. > To wit: > > root 1329 0.0 0.1 1652 1208 ?? I 11:26AM 0:00.01 /bin/sh > /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --user=mysql > mysql 1347 0.0 2.5 55852 25832 ?? S 11:26AM 0:00.14 > /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local --datadir=/var/ > colin 1359 0.0 0.1 1476 896 p2 S+ 11:26AM 0:00.00 grep > mysql > > Good, but I'm just puzzled why/how this worked from webmin. It doesn't > make sense. One thing, it started mysql as can be seen above from > /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe, which sure 'aint the script way. > > Then again, the "script way" from CLI didn't work. > > I hear your frustration. I was asking about this on Dec. 18, 2004 and I did not get any answers. Look at this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-December/068425.html I am still confused about /usr/local/etc/rc.d vs /etc/rc.conf. Can anyone educate us how this works on FreeBSD 4.10? I have nothing in rc.conf pertaining to mysql, but the mysql server starts just fine when I boot my FreeBSD 4.10 stable box? mysql-server-4.0.21 installed from ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:20:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA0D16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:20:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A268543D60 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:20:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050112142001i9100bpv33e>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:20:02 +0000 Message-ID: <41E53210.1020002@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:20:00 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Walker, Michael" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Linksys WPC11 Wireless Card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:20:03 -0000 Walker, Michael wrote: >Hi > >I apologise for asking this, as I know for a fact this question has been >asked before, however when searching the archives, I am finding conflicting >answers. >I have a Linksys WPC11 Version 4 wireless notebook adapter, and am wondering >if anyone has successfully set this up using FreeBSD 5.3. >I have read that Version 4 of the card uses a different chipset to previous >versions and that this could cause some issues, how true is this? >Also what options do I need to enable in my custom kernel, I read somewhere >in the archives that I also need to disable some items in the kernel as >well, could someone please elaborate? > > > Linksys WPC11: Versions 1-3 use a Prism chipset and are PCMCIA cards. Version 4 uses a Realtek chipset and is a Cardbus card. Try this: http://sig9.com/articles/realtek-ndis-freebsd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:25:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E08416A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:25:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A351E43D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:25:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id BD088285F4; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:25:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 55F7928423; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:25:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD65B616E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:25:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CEP6Xj015735; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:25:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:25:06 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Walker, Michael" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112152052.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:25:15 -0000 On Jan 12 at 14:12, Walker, Michael said (somewhat confusingly): > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >> On Jan 12 at 12:46, I said: >> >>> PHP 4.3.10 (cli) (built: Jan 11 2005 23:15:42) (DEBUG) mysql-4.1.7 >>> both installed from ports >>> FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE >> >> When I take a look at a phpinfo page, it shows no mention that MySQL >> exists. AFAIK this ought not to be so. >> >> I installed php last night (again, from ports) and remembered that >> there oughtta be support for mysql. So this is how I built php, though >> now I'm wondering if I installed it correctly since it seems braindead >> to the existence of MySQL >> >> make with-mysql=yes install clean >> > > I don't have a FreeBSD box at work with me at the moment. > But check out the following (Im assuming one to be correct) > /usr/ports/lang/php-extentions > /usr/ports/lang/php4-extentions > > If both are wrong, it is somewhere very similar. I'm sorry, you probably think I'm being dense... but I (honestly) don't understand what you mean. Do you mean that one (or other, or both) must *also* be installed for php to have any clue that MySQL exists? A colleague has an identical setup and - AFAIK - didn't install either one on this or prior installations of FreeBSD/MySQL/php. If this is a dense and utterly silly question then please excuse the braindead nature of it. Today has been a long and frustrating day. Thanks for the ongoing help and advice -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:41:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60B016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:41:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3851443D46 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:41:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nico.meijer@zonnet.nl) Received: from piweblw.demon.nl ([82.161.24.55]:22317 helo=openbsd.piweb.intern) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CojgP-000Obt-8L; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:41:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:41:12 +0100 From: Nico Meijer To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-Id: <20050112154113.765a567c.nico.meijer@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050112152052.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050112152052.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-openbsd3.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:41:14 -0000 Hi Colin, I missed part of the thread, so I'm sorry if I'm dead wrong here. > Do you mean that one (or other, or both) must *also* be installed for > php to have any clue that MySQL exists? You need php4-mysql for that. php4-extensions is a meta-port. Read the pkg-descr in /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions/. php4-extensions will install php4-mysql for you. HTH... Nico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:45:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E3B16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:45:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (raptor.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896BA43D53 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:45:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:45:16 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Wednesday, 12 January 2005, 10:45:05 Received: from 172.16.11.106 ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:45:01 -0400 Message-ID: <1105526748.86993.6.camel@draco.cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:45:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2005 14:45:01.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BE9A970:01C4F8B5] References: <20050112152052.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050112152052.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Subject: openofice 1.1.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:45:38 -0000 Hi people I have installed openoffice without problem but i have a question about the look and feel Why openoffice does not integrate with my gnome theme? openoffice use gtk and i think it should look like my gnome Osmany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:51:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F136416A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:51:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-dav5.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA2843D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:51:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from whitevamp47@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:51:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.102.125.195 by BAY103-DAV5.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:50:57 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.102.125.195] X-Originating-Email: [whitevamp47@hotmail.com] X-Sender: whitevamp47@hotmail.com From: "whitevamp" To: "Colin J. Raven" , "Walker, Michael" References: <20050112152052.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:49:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2005 14:51:00.0553 (UTC) FILETIME=[21A6C390:01C4F8B6] cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:51:01 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Walker, Michael" Cc: "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:25 AM Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL > On Jan 12 at 14:12, Walker, Michael said (somewhat confusingly): > >> owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >>> On Jan 12 at 12:46, I said: >>> >>>> PHP 4.3.10 (cli) (built: Jan 11 2005 23:15:42) (DEBUG) mysql-4.1.7 >>>> both installed from ports >>>> FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE >>> >>> When I take a look at a phpinfo page, it shows no mention that MySQL >>> exists. AFAIK this ought not to be so. >>> >>> I installed php last night (again, from ports) and remembered that >>> there oughtta be support for mysql. So this is how I built php, though >>> now I'm wondering if I installed it correctly since it seems braindead >>> to the existence of MySQL >>> >>> make with-mysql=yes install clean >>> >> >> I don't have a FreeBSD box at work with me at the moment. >> But check out the following (Im assuming one to be correct) >> /usr/ports/lang/php-extentions >> /usr/ports/lang/php4-extentions >> >> If both are wrong, it is somewhere very similar. > > I'm sorry, you probably think I'm being dense... > but > I (honestly) don't understand what you mean. > Do you mean that one (or other, or both) must *also* be installed for > php to have any clue that MySQL exists? yes and its /usr/ports/lang/php4-extentions when you run make install it will give you a listing of all the extions that you can install for php just slect mysql from the list > A colleague has an identical setup and - AFAIK - didn't install either > one on this or prior installations of FreeBSD/MySQL/php. Before i updated php to 4.3.10 i didnt have to any of the extions installed for my setup to work . then after i upgraded php i had all kinds of issues nuthing worked,I found out that for 4.3.10 to work the way i whanted it to i had to install just about every extion in the list. along with recompiling php its self to inable the extions that i needed. > If this is a dense and utterly silly question then please excuse the > braindead nature of it. not at all. >Today has been a long and frustrating day. > > Thanks for the ongoing help and advice > -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:58:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEF316A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:58:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 554EC43D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:58:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 26864 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2005 14:55:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 14:55:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 2571 invoked by uid 89); 12 Jan 2005 14:59:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 14:59:00 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87EF11611; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:58:10 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:58:10 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Adi Pircalabu Message-ID: <20050112165810.07364fcd@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20050112152102.57fc843a@apircalabu.dsd.ro> References: <20050112152102.57fc843a@apircalabu.dsd.ro> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security port: automated integration in the mail/file server - to do or not to do ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:58:51 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:21:02 +0200 Adi Pircalabu wrote: > Hello, > > I'm working for a security port and I noticed that none of the existing > ones integrate their filters automatically after install, regardless of > the agent they are installed for. Instead, every port gives (usually > from pkg-message) the necessary information on how to integrate the > filter. > My question is: what is the right FreeBSD way to handle this filter > integration issue? I definitely see two options: > 1. automatic integration of the filter (probably from pkg-plist or > pkg-install), including the needed changes in agent's configuration. > 2. the integration should be done by the user using the information > provided in post install messages. While I try to make my ports as user friendly and automated as possible, I would vote for 2) above. I hate when something just changes on my system without me telling it to do so explicitly; plus I could very well install the port today and wait to the end of the week to switch it on for testing; plus there will always be some strange edge cases when you'll just break some custom configuration. Eventually (if possible, since I didn't saw that Makefile ;) ) if you can somehow integrated the required changes but not activate them (e.g. an rc script and a portname_enable="YES" that one should set to activate them). And BTW one would be able to run (part of) that "security port" as a nice postfix queue filter without having to scratch its left left side with the right foot, right ? :) -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:16:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A225016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:16:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.speakeasy.net (mail2.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2611C43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 23519 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2005 15:16:26 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Jan 2005 15:16:26 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 74A8C44; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:16:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Eric F Crist References: <200501120509.j0C59Nu7084400@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> <5346C474-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 12 Jan 2005 10:16:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <5346C474-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Message-ID: <447jmillti.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SA, Bayes, and You (erm, Me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:16:27 -0000 Eric F Crist writes: > On Jan 11, 2005, at 11:09 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > >> However, when I read the > >> headers of any messages, I notice that they ALL say 'autolearn=no', > >> even though I've enabled autolearn in local.cf (bayes_auto_learn 1). > > > > There is something with the threshold for auto learning. > > > > olivier > > I've got the threshold turned down to 6.0. Still nothing. Things are just a bit more complicated than that. The "-D" flag has already been suggested; see http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutolearningNotWorking for a more extensive explanation. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:22:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652FA16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:22:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA7E43D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:22:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9638B285F3; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:23:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id F3E16285EE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:22:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620CF6225; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:22:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CFMacc082382; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:22:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:22:36 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Nico Meijer In-Reply-To: <20050112154113.765a567c.nico.meijer@zonnet.nl> Message-ID: <20050112161945.J802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050112154113.765a567c.nico.meijer@zonnet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:22:51 -0000 On Jan 12 at 15:41, Nico Meijer launched this into the bitstream: > Hi Colin, > > I missed part of the thread, so I'm sorry if I'm dead wrong here. > >> Do you mean that one (or other, or both) must *also* be installed for >> php to have any clue that MySQL exists? > > You need php4-mysql for that. php4-extensions is a meta-port. Read the > pkg-descr in /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions/. php4-extensions will > install php4-mysql for you. > Hey Nico, long time, no see! Happy New Year. OK, I installed php4-extensions and it made precisely zero difference (selected every-damn-thing-on-the-list) I have *no* idea what to do next, none. As far as I can see, phpinfo.php shows no sign of MySQL. Thus, I assume php is still braindead to the existence of MySQL. (I restarted MySQL before running phpinfo.php again "just in case") [mumble] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:23:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0D16A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from knife.dreamhost.com (knife.dreamhost.com [66.33.219.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2007D43D41; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.1.203] (adsl-68-76-44-196.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [68.76.44.196]) by knife.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5B4E4C04; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:23:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <41E52F04.4030001@centtech.com> References: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <41E52F04.4030001@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:23:02 -0500 To: Eric Anderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: How dangerous is HFS+ in FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:23:07 -0000 On Jan 12, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Eric Anderson wrote: > If you are simply recovering your mp3's^H^H^H^H^Hdata, Heh... actually my iPod is FAT32 because I had it with Windows before I had a Mac. > then just mount it read only, copy data, unmount.. After the copy, who > cares if it trashes it? yeah, read only is a good idea. I decided that rather than messing with HFS+ in FreeBSD (when I'll likely never use it again), I would just enable FTP on FreeBSD and upload the files. It'll take a little longer to do the copy, but I can do it right now and work on other things while it is running, rather than having to learn how to enable HFS+ (which would be good to know, but I've got a lot of other things pressing at the moment, so saving a bit of time today is good). I guess the next question is figuring out what filesystem to use on the drive once all the data I want/need is off of it. TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:29:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8D316A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:29:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145F943D4C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:29:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0CFTjx23317; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:29:45 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501121529.j0CFTjx23317@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: andy@firman.us Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:29:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050112141527.GB17381@akroteq.com> from "Andy Firman" at Jan 12, 2005 05:15:27 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL [SOLVED?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:29:51 -0000 > > /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --user=mysql > > mysql 1347 0.0 2.5 55852 25832 ?? S 11:26AM 0:00.14 > > /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local --datadir=/var/ > > colin 1359 0.0 0.1 1476 896 p2 S+ 11:26AM 0:00.00 grep > > mysql > > > > Good, but I'm just puzzled why/how this worked from webmin. It doesn't > > make sense. One thing, it started mysql as can be seen above from > > /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe, which sure 'aint the script way. > > > > Then again, the "script way" from CLI didn't work. > > > > > > I hear your frustration. I was asking about this on Dec. 18, 2004 > and I did not get any answers. Look at this: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-December/068425.html > > I am still confused about /usr/local/etc/rc.d vs /etc/rc.conf. > > Can anyone educate us how this works on FreeBSD 4.10? The only thing you should possibly have in /etc/rc.conf or maybe /etc/rc.conf.local are setting variables. Most things do not even need that. Do not _execute_ anything from rc.conf for startups. All startups should be in scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. The main startup executes every script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d that ends in '.sh' and has execute permission set. I think the order is alphabetic sort order. Make your script take a 'start' as its first argument. Besides, most installs for ports put a usefully functioning xxx.sh startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d when you do the install. For some you have to change the permissions to allow it to execute. Check in the ports xxx.sh script to see how it starts and if you need to set any environment variables or change any addresses. This is all well documented if you look. ////jerry > I have nothing in rc.conf pertaining to mysql, but the mysql server > starts just fine when I boot my FreeBSD 4.10 stable box? > > mysql-server-4.0.21 installed from ports. > _______________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:52:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672D416A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:52:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBE843D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:52:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out014.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050112155224.RFDB28388.out014.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:52:24 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500C211B43 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72018-10 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2409911AE5; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:52:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:52:23 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112155222.GB85890@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501120509.j0C59Nu7084400@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> <5346C474-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5346C474-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:52:24 -0600 Subject: Re: SA, Bayes, and You (erm, Me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:52:25 -0000 On 01/12/05 05:37 AM, Eric F Crist sat at the `puter and typed: > On Jan 11, 2005, at 11:09 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > >> However, when I read the > >> headers of any messages, I notice that they ALL say 'autolearn=no', > >> even though I've enabled autolearn in local.cf (bayes_auto_learn 1). > > > > There is something with the threshold for auto learning. > > > > olivier > > I've got the threshold turned down to 6.0. Still nothing. There's still more to it than that. Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf(3) has the following: bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam n.nn (default: 12.0) The score threshold above which a mail has to score, to be fed into SpamAssassin's learning systems automatically as a spam message. Note: SpamAssassin requires at least 3 points from the header, and 3 points from the body to auto-learn as spam. Therefore, the mini- mum working value for this option is 6. So, a message can score 25 points off the body and 2 off the headers, and it will not be autolearned. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Abbott's Admonitions: (1) If you have to ask, you're not entitled to know. (2) If you don't like the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question. -- Charles Abbot, dean, University of Virginia From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:53:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8016D16A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:53:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFFE43D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:53:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nico.meijer@zonnet.nl) Received: from piweblw.demon.nl ([82.161.24.55]:23594 helo=openbsd.piweb.intern) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cokoo-000PA2-Du; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:53:58 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:53:58 +0100 From: Nico Meijer To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-Id: <20050112165358.60e2e3f3.nico.meijer@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050112161945.J802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050112154113.765a567c.nico.meijer@zonnet.nl> <20050112161945.J802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-openbsd3.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:53:59 -0000 Hi Colin, > Hey Nico, long time, no see! Happy New Year. Ah, indeed! It took a while, but now my brain said "click!". Same to you, thanks. Hope you are well (apart from the php/mysql problem) > I have *no* idea what to do next, none. As far as I can see, > phpinfo.php shows no sign of MySQL. Thus, I assume php is still > braindead to the existence of MySQL. (I restarted MySQL before > running phpinfo.php again "just in case") I'll read the entire thread later tonight, but just in case: have you copied an example php.ini (-dist or -recommended) over your existing (/usr/local/etc/)php.ini (if there is one, dunno right now; back it up first). HTH... Nico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:54:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C7916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay18-f33.bay18.hotmail.com [65.54.187.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A2443D49 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmreddi@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:54:02 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 203.199.164.2 by by18fd.bay18.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:53:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.199.164.2] X-Originating-Email: [cmreddi@hotmail.com] X-Sender: cmreddi@hotmail.com From: "Reddy cmr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:53:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2005 15:54:02.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFA4DBD0:01C4F8BE] Subject: help on on the implemtation - SCSI enclosure services protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:11 -0000 Hi, Currently, I am working on writing a application software for getting the information from FC RAID, which haiving 14 FC disks. I want to extract the RAID encosure info, such as power supply, temp and alarm status etc. I came to know that, these information can be extracted by sending the SCSI pass through commands using the SES protocol. Can u please me, how to go forward? If there is already implemneted source code of SES protocol(even for other unix flavors), Please let me know ? Thanks CM Reddy _________________________________________________________________ Redefine team work. Discover your true potential. http://www.microsoft.com/india/office/experience/ With the MS product suite. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:54:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542B916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297FF43D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987F0388FD5; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:54:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:54:12 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: sp0ng3b0b Message-ID: <713FFA5AE5E6C6E47C556A56@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <41E481F9.7080508@sbcglobal.net> References: <41E481F9.7080508@sbcglobal.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:13 -0000 --On Tuesday, January 11, 2005 05:48:41 PM -0800 sp0ng3b0b wrote: > > I'm in the same boat. I've had mixed results with 5.3. I advise you to > test it out for your needs. If your hardware and apps play well together, > go for it. As a web, mysql and samba server, I've had no problems. > > As an IDS running snort, I've had problems with the nge driver. I need > these NICs for monitoring gigabit links. Simply "uping" the interface > caused FreeBSD to panic. I posted here and opened a problem report, but > got no replies. FWIW, I never saw a kernel panic until I used 5.3, but I > do acknowledge that the technology added is new and results may very. > Thanks for pointing that out. In fact, *one* of the servers *will* be running snort. I'm not sure what our NICs are, though. I believe they're Intel, but I'll have to check. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 15:58:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509F816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:58:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA59943D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:58:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0CFwMK23521; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:58:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501121558.j0CFwMK23521@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: Michael.Walker2@capita.co.uk (Walker, Michael) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:58:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Walker, Michael" at Jan 12, 2005 09:35:21 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: "\"Freebsd-Questions E-mail" Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:58:28 -0000 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Colin J. Raven > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:30 AM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Trouble starting MySQL > > > Greetings all, > I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) > then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. > > Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No > error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. You may need to set a variable in /etc/rc.conf such as: MySQL="YES" or some such or you may need to set execute permission on the /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh file - some ports seem to install it without execute to start so you can do your own tinkering before actually running it or some such thing. ////jerry > > > > Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld from > your rc.conf file. No No No. I don't see anything like that and it would be wrong - against the way the system works. > > HTH > Mick Walker > > > ********************************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error or think you may have done so, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. 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(24.52.224.96) by dreadlock.phreakout.net with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 16:16:17 -0000 Message-ID: <41E54C42.8010205@phreakout.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:11:46 -0500 From: Bob Ababurko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SMP question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:12:26 -0000 Hi all- I am wondering if it is possible to specify which processor that a process will use, on a multi-processor box. Where can I find this information if it is possible. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:18:18 -0000 In a message dated 1/11/05 9:50:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, wangwin1968@walla.com writes: Dear Friend, Let me start by introducing myself. I am Mr. Wang Qin Credit officer of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd. I have a Concealed business suggestion for you. Before the U.S and Iraqi war, our client General. Ibrahim Moussa who was an Iraqi Business man made a numbered fixed deposit for 18 Calendar months, with a value of Twenty millions Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars only in my Branch. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 16:24:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7128A16A4D8 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:24:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA95043D58 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:24:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id D07AD2841E for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:25:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id AEE9628419 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:25:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F37661B8 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CGOkSF024513 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:24:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:24:46 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <200501121558.j0CFwMK23521@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20050112171729.K802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <200501121558.j0CFwMK23521@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL [SOLVED] [CLOSED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:24:56 -0000 Earlier today I said: >> Greetings all, >> I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) >> then tried to start it. Nothing doing - wo way. >> >> Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. No >> error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. > > You may need to set a variable in /etc/rc.conf such as: > MySQL="YES" mysql_enable="yes" That is mentioned in /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh It is now in /etc/rc.conf That however didn't solve the problem - or as far as I am or was aware. Instead I started the MySQL server from Webmin and it's running just fine. The next issue was getting php to recognize the existence of MySQL. Several steps later this is in essence what was done: I deinstalled php4 and also php4-extensions. Stopped httpd altogether. Reinstalled php4 and as many extensions as possible (although some libmagic thing halted the 100% installation of the extensions, so I sent debug info to the maintainer as directed by screen output) The reinstall was unremarkable, in that nothing that I could see varied from the first time out - OTHER THAN - as said, the halt in extensions that didn't happen first time. Restarted httpd and puled up a phpinfo.php page and suddenly there was some mention of mysql for the first time. I just don't have any clue what I did; a) wrongly at first and then b) correctly later So it *seems* matters are resolved, although I'm not 100% certain. I assume it's solved because phpinfo displays awareness of MySQL. Warm thanks to one and all who have jumped in on this today, it's now solved and closed (for the archives, that is) This wouldn't have happened without the list crew. Until the next problem then.... Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Wed Jan 12 17:24:00 CET 2005 5:24PM up 6:12, 6 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 16:29:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D3616A503 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:29:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf38.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf38.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155CD43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:29:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from mxip23.cluster1.charter.net (mxip23a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.153])j0CGT2rP013189 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:29:02 -0500 Received: from c66.191.67.211.static.dul.mn.charter.com (HELO [66.191.67.211]) (66.191.67.211) by mxip23.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2005 11:29:02 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,118,1102309200"; d="scan'208?sig'208"; a="181598014:sNHT16525268" In-Reply-To: <20050112123657.R802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <5D403720-648A-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <2AA407B4-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <20050112123657.R802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-9-538602294" Message-Id: <0ECF20A6-64B7-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:28:57 -0600 To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: "Walker, Michael" cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:29:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail-9-538602294 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:46 AM, Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 12 at 05:36, Eric F Crist then said: > >> On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:22 AM, Colin J. Raven wrote: >> >> I would check the /var/log/messages log file for anything related to >> mysql, >> in this case. There's a reason it won't start, and it'll be >> indicated there. > There is nothing related to mysql in /var/log/messages - which now I > come to think about it is odd. > >> My bad on the syntax. After looking, I have a script called >> mysql-server.sh >> that doesn't require an entry in rc.conf. What version of mysql are >> you >> using? Was it installed from ports? What version of FreeBSD? > > No problem :) > > mysql-4.1.7 > installed from ports > FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE If you haven't changed your syslog.conf file, you should have a /var/log/all.log. Take a look in there to see if you see anything related to mysql. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-9-538602294 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHlUEoACgkQRAAY9knOW+pofwCghpWtmTPl+Gi2Yo/joOMbSrer M1QAn1S0/4zGK1lD6s0Wyg1vEeuAiW9s =hNOS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-9-538602294-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 16:36:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F2516A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:36:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA25A43D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:36:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 0425F28423; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:36:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 5136A2841E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:36:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FB561B8; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:36:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CGaO5w024637; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:36:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:36:24 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: <0ECF20A6-64B7-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Message-ID: <20050112173047.M802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <5D403720-648A-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <2AA407B4-648E-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <0ECF20A6-64B7-11D9-AD37-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: "Walker, Michael" cc: "Freebsd-Questions \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:36:36 -0000 On Jan 12 at 10:28, Eric F Crist said: >> >> mysql-4.1.7 >> installed from ports >> FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE > > If you haven't changed your syslog.conf file, you should have a > /var/log/all.log. Take a look in there to see if you see anything related to > mysql. This is interesting. No I didn't change syslog.conf in any way (don't know enough to know what to change, nor why). But, that said, there's *no* /var/log/all.log. It doesn't exist. However, as you may see from another post I sent up a short time ago, this is solved and all is well. Everything appears to be working as it should. I won't say; "is working" that's pushing things a bit, instead "appears to be working" is much better!! :-) As I said in the [SOLVED] [CLOSED] post, many MANY thanks for the help during the course of this day. I've lost count of the number of people who have jumped in and tried to get me up and running. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Wed Jan 12 17:36:00 CET 2005 5:36PM up 6:24, 6 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 16:53:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E31016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:53:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E5943D55 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:52:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0CGqqIG003576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:52:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E555C3.6030209@mac.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:52:19 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp References: <1105432346.638.31.camel@localhost> <41E314C0.1010502@mac.com> <1105435387.849.18.camel@localhost> <41E32005.2040403@mac.com> <20050111020445.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <41E35380.90908@mac.com> <1105534339.2062.16.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1105534339.2062.16.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail problem - Helo command rejected: Host not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:53:00 -0000 Srot BULL wrote: [ ... ] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 554 : Relay access denied) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to vc.point.ne.jp.: > >>>>DATA > > <<< 554 : Relay access denied > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable > <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients > > It seems that I was not allowed to relay my email so I tried the > archives and then I tried reading the README file > at /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README > and found something about: > > Providing SMTP AUTH Data when sendmail acts as Client > ----------------------------------------------------- > > I read a little and did what I understood: > 1) created a /etc/mail/authinfo file with the following > AuthInfo:point.ne.jp "U:myusername" "I:myusername" "P:password" > AuthInfo:me.point.ne.jp "U:myusername" "I:myusername" "P:password" Your configuration seems to be going in the right direction, so you ought to discuss this error with postmaster@point.ne.jp so they can either change things to permit relaying, or figure out what you need to adjust. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:00:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E03516A4E9 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:00:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail.idea-anvil.net (idea-anvil.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDD643D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:00:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) Received: from idea-anvil.net (vaio [10.0.0.99]) by jail.idea-anvil.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0CH0qel089028 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:00:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) From: aksis Organization: idea-anvil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:00:52 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501121000.52916.aksis@idea-anvil.net> Subject: Re: Linksys WPC11 Wireless Card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:00:54 -0000 On Tuesday 11 January 2005 08:52 am, Walker, Michael wrote: > Hi > > I apologise for asking this, as I know for a fact this question has been > asked before, however when searching the archives, I am finding conflicting > answers. > I have a Linksys WPC11 Version 4 wireless notebook adapter, and am > wondering if anyone has successfully set this up using FreeBSD 5.3. > I have read that Version 4 of the card uses a different chipset to previous > versions and that this could cause some issues, how true is this? > Also what options do I need to enable in my custom kernel, I read somewhere > in the archives that I also need to disable some items in the kernel as > well, could someone please elaborate? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Mick Walker > NAAFI Finance International > Its working on my 5.3-RELEASE with ndis (aka Project Evil): man ndis [aksis@vaio:~]:$ pciconf -lv ... snip ... ndis0@pci4:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00191737 chip=0x818010ec rev=0x20 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RTL8180L IEEE 802.11b Wireless MAC and Baseband Processor' class = network subclass = ethernet [aksis@vaio:~]:$ ifconfig ndis0 ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet a.b.c.d netmask 0x0000000 broadcast 0.0.0.0 inet6 *%ndis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps) status: associated ssid ME 1:ME channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 rtsthreshold 2312 protmode CTS wepmode ON weptxkey somekey [aksis@vaio:~]:$ ping -c 3 google.com PING google.com (216.239.57.99): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=242 time=58.070 ms 64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=58.553 ms 64 bytes from 216.239.57.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=60.377 ms --- google.com ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 58.070/59.000/60.377/0.993 ms When you run 2 battelships into each other, they both sink. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:06:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8C616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:06:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from knife.dreamhost.com (knife.dreamhost.com [66.33.219.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C1443D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:06:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.1.203] (adsl-68-76-44-196.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [68.76.44.196]) by knife.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B83E469A; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:06:29 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4B3D1835-64BC-11D9-8C27-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions , macosx-support@yahoogroups.com From: Timothy Luoma Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:06:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Mac/FreeBSD shared drive, which filesystem to choose X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:06:30 -0000 I have an external firewire drive that I would like to use both with my Powerbook (Mac OS X 10.3.7) and FreeBSD 5.3. Ideally I would like read/write access from both machines. Is there a filesystem that both OSes can read? The only one I know of is FAT32, which (IIRC) isn't a good choice on large drives. Thoughts appreciated TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:19:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D584A16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web.plurali.net (plurali.net [213.41.135.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0629643D46 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@serpe.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (web.plurali.net [192.168.0.4]) by web.plurali.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42F54C900 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:18:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E55C05.9050802@serpe.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:19:01 +0100 From: Nicolas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Rebooting after kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:02 -0000 Hello, I run a small server under FreeBSD 5.3, but it's very unstable (kernel panics) and I don't have time to debug it. So I customized the GENERIC kernel by adding these options, in order to automatically reboot the server every time it panics (this is apparently NOT the default behaviour in 5.3): makeoptions DEBUG=-g options KDB options KDB_UNATTENDED options DDB But it still won't reboot. It just shows the usual message saying there was a page fault while in kernel mode, and a prompt appears on screen. I can't reboot from that prompt. Please tell me why adding KDB_UNATTENDED has no effect and what I should do to obtain the desired behaviour. Thank you. Nicolas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:19:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7591E16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4893E43D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1])j0CHJck2044283; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1C8D6377; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:15:51 +0000 From: markzero To: Timothy Luoma Message-ID: <20050112171551.GA2984@logik.ath.cx> References: <4B3D1835-64BC-11D9-8C27-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3D1835-64BC-11D9-8C27-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p3 i386 LOGIK004 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 1E0B4CDD cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mac/FreeBSD shared drive, which filesystem to choose X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:45 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have an external firewire drive that I would like to use both with my= =20 > Powerbook (Mac OS X 10.3.7) and FreeBSD 5.3. >=20 > Ideally I would like read/write access from both machines. Both OSs support UFS. Mac OS X gives you the option to format your drive as UFS on installation but recommends HFS+. --=20 PGP: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQeVbRafaOQ/e/53RAQKlhxAAlVaKyh3Tbfx2EuTTrQ127AfC2Iw/he8k x5fLzW6nR/JB7hj+L8NLz2CkqQkBdL1SGOlNyoRcttrmH6JcCOg8NQOY5aStN+mx 6RcrnOKxFja627V9yNC72ObpS6borFRQEZuurQyUDdvCVHPFgp47x+RauC6NgRBl rDZiNw87s0cWjuKM8WclWV4lNkycmXBAIHYmk7d7v+//TmKjpQ9QJ4t3092TlI6P 5CKVjjmseZkgiaUJ5AuhBw4+TVGFZKXUzCLKIOku6o31jGnHq+Csd9tHUaCMPFJ1 vQCiAW1gCnz0pas4gl+EshdLaV9uA0k5tQTgGmMy7J4iat7ct0rpZO1Wf/KkVlwE EX+eBjNXdGwED/wECLZr8TyfVhrkm5URiHmzIQaopyybqsw9JfEuKxWz+UvqY+YV KsNo/2XgrTHxAVfy8rfupa4DQAR3RaiFVLoc2dbTvxuJRk9qAdqfsWSieAWidymJ fdLG+8d07Qs6TZuIE2PHY26T4/JiA05HJ2PmlgZU8etQnYTjugEj0MiIdsQdSRd8 hmorQk9e/Q2i9rnv9w2Ejy1dbqhO9dziGtRPO61FO4sOnGZ6uYoC1YuH/sM2viMJ OaVDgDfVT1TErJ7mxyylEPXVMl+/uNkOYgflulzn0aRm1VYwbaeJAiE7/OBLk3XE GEsRWiRO3Og= =4P2/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:19:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE0316A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0ED43D46 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j0CHJjx1018275 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:19:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200501121719.j0CHJjx1018275@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:19:45 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: UNIX-Based VPN Applications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:19:46 -0000 I have been asked as to whether there are any VPN applications that can run on UNIX clients using Linux, FreeBSD, and MacOS. I think the general idea is that they could tunnel in from outside of our campus and receive an IP number on our network. There would probably be a UNIX server on the campus end of the network to accept these connections. Those of us who work here or are students can set up a UNIX box on campus and use ssh in to it from anywhere. What I am asking about is whether there is a VPN application that UNIX-users in general can register with to have a presence on our network. Thank you very much. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:38:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F1D16A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:38:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from banka.binep.ac.ru (banka.binep.ac.ru [193.233.44.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFE243D31; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:38:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Received: from banka.binep.ac.ru (localhost.binep.ac.ru [127.0.0.1]) by banka.binep.ac.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240611534E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:38:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: from byfi.binep.ac.ru (byfi.binep.ac.ru [193.233.44.234]) by banka.binep.ac.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099151533D; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:38:09 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:37:23 +0300 From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.10.03) Personal Organization: BINEPCP RAS X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1062371492.20050112203723@binep.ac.ru> To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP cc: bp@FreeBSD.org Subject: RELENG_4 IPX commit broke net/mars_nwe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:38:13 -0000 [Cc'ing Boris Popov as maintainer] Greeings! On my RELENG_4 file server box the follwoing commit broke net/mars_nwe port: Edit src/sys/netipx/ipx.h Add delta 1.15.2.1 2005.01.02.13.00.51 rwatson First, after upgrading machine (buildworld, kernel, installworld), non-rebuilt nwserv didn't even start. After port was rebuilt, it starts, but server doesn't appear on the network and doesn't accept connections from client Windows boxes. There is no errors or warnings in log files of IPXrouted(8) or port programs, so i am totally lost... Here are corresponding parts of ps -ax and other network info: [...] 73 ?? Is 0:00,02 IPXrouted -s /var/log/nw.ipx.log [...] 374 ?? I 0:00,04 nwbind GO aa.aa.0.0:0.0.0.0.0.1:4.51 400c 375 ?? I 0:00,00 ncpserv GO aa.aa.0.0:0.0.0.0.0.1:4.51 400c 4009 [...] banka# ifconfig -a fxp0: flags=9843 mtu 1500 inet aaa.bbb.ccc.213 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast aaa.bbb.ccc.255 inet aaa.bbb.ccc.221 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast aaa.bbb.ccc.221 ether 00:08:c7:49:99:b1 media: Ethernet 100baseTX status: active fxp0f0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 ipx bbbb0000.8c74999b1 ether 00:08:c7:49:99:b1 [...] lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ipx aaaa0000.1H banka# =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v retrieving revision 1.15 retrieving revision 1.15.2.1 diff -u -p -r1.15 -r1.15.2.1 --- src/sys/netipx/ipx.h 1999/08/28 18:21:52 1.15 +++ src/sys/netipx/ipx.h 2005/01/02 13:00:51 1.15.2.1 @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ * * @(#)ipx.h * - * $FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v 1.15 1999/08/28 18:21:52 jhay Exp $ + * $FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v 1.15.2.1 2005/01/02 13:00:51 rwatson Exp $ */ #ifndef _NETIPX_IPX_H_ @@ -108,6 +108,7 @@ union ipx_host { union ipx_net { u_char c_net[4]; u_short s_net[2]; + u_int u_net; }; union ipx_net_u { @@ -131,6 +132,8 @@ struct sockaddr_ipx { char sipx_zero[2]; }; #define sipx_port sipx_addr.x_port +#define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.u_net +#define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host /* * Definitions for IPX Internetwork Packet Exchange Protocol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:41:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BE016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:41:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3936F43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:41:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A936A1C00157 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:41:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 663F11C00151 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:41:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:41:02 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1869737534.20050112184102@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050112111542.GA1651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> <167683180.20050112072014@wanadoo.fr> <20050112111542.GA1651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:41:06 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: GK> You need to enable SMP too, to allow the FreeBSD kernel to use the GK> second (hyper-threaded) CPU. I found it, in a file called SMP. Why is the SMP option tucked away in a separate file? I stuck this into the config and rebuilt the kernel. Seems to run fine. I see that top has a C column now, and running a program in a continuous loop takes up exactly 50% of the machine (and two such programs take up exactly 100%), according to top. Boot messages looked a bit different: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 12 17:55:18 CET 2005 root@freebie.atkielski.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBIE-SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2998.57-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 1073414144 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1045061632 (996 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 [...] cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 [...] SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! So I guess it's all working now. That was easy. I imagine this will give me a bit more horsepower for the buck, although--with only 0.2% of the machine busy under normal load even with a single processor--I guess I wasn't exactly processor-bound to begin with (I'd run out of I/O capacity long before running out of processor). But why not profit from what's there, eh? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:46:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0579E16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:46:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C023143D41 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:45:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0909.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AEF4724000CD for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:45:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0909.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 807B3240011F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:45:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:45:56 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:46:01 -0000 Scott Bennett writes: SB> Well, no, not exactly. The dual-cored CPUs share certain resources SB> on the chip that are not shared in a multi-CPU situation, and that shar= ing SB> means certain operations have to be handled differently. An MP setup h= as SB> separate cache and TLB managment in each CPU ... What's TLB? SB> ... whereas P4 w/HT logical processors share this memory management SB> circuitry. Alteration of a cache line requires notification of the SB> other processor(s) in an MP situation to mark any corresponding line SB> in its(their) cache(s) because multiple separate caches are SB> involved, but notification is not necessary in the P4 w/HT situation SB> because it's the same cache being seen by both logical processors. SB> Alteration/invalidation of TLB entries requires notification to SB> invalidate in an MP, so that the other CPU(s) can purge any correspondi= ng TLB SB> entries it(they) may have, but notification is not required in the P4 w= /HT SB> situation because both logical processors are refering to the same TLB.= Again, SB> unnecessary purging would be a performance hit. SB> There must be some special handling of TLB entries in the P4 w/HT = that SB> I haven't seen documented. (There almost certainly is documentation; I= just SB> haven't seen it yet.) There must be some way to distinguish between TLB SB> entries filled per orders of one logical processor from those filled per SB> orders of the other logical processor. If there weren't, then one logi= cal SB> processor would use TLB entries for the address space running on the ot= her SB> logical processor, which would, of course, be Very Bad. But, to improve SB> performance, there should be some way to share TLBs for the case of two SB> threads running concurrently in the same address space. If anyone read= ing SB> this knows the details of how this is handled in these chips, please po= st them SB> here. From=20what you say and from what I've read today, it sounds like hyperthreading comes close to providing two separate processors for heterogenous system loads (where each hyperthread is using slightly different processor resources at any given instant), but it may not buy much of anything for massively parallel compute-bound work, since both threads may want nearly the same things at the same time and will thus effectively be forced to spend a lot of time waiting for each other. Fortunately, my server has a very mixed load, as one would expect for a generic domain server, so hopefully it will profit from hyperthreading. And hopefully no weird stuff will happen because I've turned on HT (although offhand I'm not sure what would happen, unless there are hidden hardware conflicts or something specific and software-visible about HT in normal operation that might expose a bug). I'm not sure that I see how HT could affect Serial ATA disks, for example, any more than having two separate physical processors would. --=20 Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:50:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E7216A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:50:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from banka.binep.ac.ru (banka.binep.ac.ru [193.233.44.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043DF43D2D; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Received: from banka.binep.ac.ru (localhost.binep.ac.ru [127.0.0.1]) by banka.binep.ac.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0D11534E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:50:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: from byfi.binep.ac.ru (byfi.binep.ac.ru [193.233.44.234]) by banka.binep.ac.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812681533D; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:50:47 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:50:02 +0300 From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.10.03) Personal Organization: BINEPCP RAS X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19510236615.20050112205002@binep.ac.ru> To: FreeBSD Questions Resent-From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-Id: <20050112175047.812681533D@banka.binep.ac.ru> Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:50:47 +0300 (MSK) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP cc: bp@FreeBSD.org Subject: RELENG_4 IPX commit broke net/mars_nwe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:50:50 -0000 [Sorry, incidentally sent unfinished letter] [Cc'ing Boris Popov as maintainer] Greetings! Looks like the follwoing commit broke net/mars_nwe port on my RELENG_4 file server box: Edit src/sys/netipx/ipx.h Add delta 1.15.2.1 2005.01.02.13.00.51 rwatson First, after upgrading machine (buildworld, kernel, installworld), non-rebuilt nwserv didn't even start. After port was rebuilt, it starts, but server doesn't appear on the network and doesn't accept connections from client Windows boxes. There is no errors or warnings in log files of IPXrouted(8) or port programs, so i am totally lost... Here are corresponding parts of ps -ax and other network info: [...] 73 ?? Is 0:00,02 IPXrouted -s /var/log/nw.ipx.log [...] 374 ?? I 0:00,04 nwbind GO aa.aa.0.0:0.0.0.0.0.1:4.51 400c 375 ?? I 0:00,00 ncpserv GO aa.aa.0.0:0.0.0.0.0.1:4.51 400c 4009 [...] banka# ifconfig -a fxp0: flags=9843 mtu 1500 inet aaa.bbb.ccc.213 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast aaa.bbb.ccc.255 inet aaa.bbb.ccc.221 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast aaa.bbb.ccc.221 ether 00:08:c7:49:99:b1 media: Ethernet 100baseTX status: active fxp0f0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 ipx bbbb0000.8c74999b1 ether 00:08:c7:49:99:b1 [...] lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ipx aaaa0000.1H banka# Can anyone help? I can send mars_nwe config and logs as well... TIA, Igor PS. Oh, here is the diff from cvsweb: =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v retrieving revision 1.15 retrieving revision 1.15.2.1 diff -u -p -r1.15 -r1.15.2.1 --- src/sys/netipx/ipx.h 1999/08/28 18:21:52 1.15 +++ src/sys/netipx/ipx.h 2005/01/02 13:00:51 1.15.2.1 @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ * * @(#)ipx.h * - * $FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v 1.15 1999/08/28 18:21:52 jhay Exp $ + * $FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v 1.15.2.1 2005/01/02 13:00:51 rwatson Exp $ */ #ifndef _NETIPX_IPX_H_ @@ -108,6 +108,7 @@ union ipx_host { union ipx_net { u_char c_net[4]; u_short s_net[2]; + u_int u_net; }; union ipx_net_u { @@ -131,6 +132,8 @@ struct sockaddr_ipx { char sipx_zero[2]; }; #define sipx_port sipx_addr.x_port +#define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.u_net +#define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host /* * Definitions for IPX Internetwork Packet Exchange Protocol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 17:51:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B674916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:51:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802E043D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:51:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0CHptgo023795 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:51:55 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j0CHpc3X002834 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:51:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j0CHpbBl002833 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:51:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:51:37 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112175137.GA2734@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> <167683180.20050112072014@wanadoo.fr> <20050112111542.GA1651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <1869737534.20050112184102@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1869737534.20050112184102@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:51:59 -0000 On 2005-01-12 18:41, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > > GK> You need to enable SMP too, to allow the FreeBSD kernel to use the > GK> second (hyper-threaded) CPU. > > I found it, in a file called SMP. Why is the SMP option tucked away in > a separate file? [...] The 'separate file' is NOTES. This file is actually the complete reference of options that the kernel supports, so it's not like the SMP option is hidden or something. > I imagine this will give me a bit more horsepower for the buck, > although--with only 0.2% of the machine busy under normal load even with > a single processor--I guess I wasn't exactly processor-bound to begin > with (I'd run out of I/O capacity long before running out of processor). > But why not profit from what's there, eh? Because it's not always a 'profit'. The locking and synchronization overhead is not always negligible. Please, read the rest of the thread too :-) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:04:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E8416A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:04:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0C243D3F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:04:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1ComrK-0008P6-Tv; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:04:43 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:04:54 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200501121719.j0CHJjx1018275@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200501121719.j0CHJjx1018275@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501121204.55175.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc1ff1eb9ec2a3f27c3818d3a670e5b9d4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: UNIX-Based VPN Applications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:04:45 -0000 On Wednesday 12 January 2005 11:19 am, Martin McCormick wrote: > I have been asked as to whether there are any VPN applications > that can run on UNIX clients using Linux, FreeBSD, and MacOS. I > think the general idea is that they could tunnel in from outside of > our campus and receive an IP number on our network. > > There would probably be a UNIX server on the campus end of the > network to accept these connections. > > Those of us who work here or are students can set up a UNIX > box on campus and use ssh in to it from anywhere. What I am asking > about is whether there is a VPN application that UNIX-users in > general can register with to have a presence on our network. > > Thank you very much. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group You might take a look at openvpn, which is available for *BSD, Linux, Mac OSX. Solaris and Windows. You can find openvpn in the ports at: /usr/ports/security/openvpn/ The openvpn website can be found at: http://openvpn.net/ Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:08:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD73A16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:08:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E8443D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:08:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timlee@sonic.net) Received: from bolt.sonic.net (bolt.sonic.net [208.201.242.18]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0CI8aI5021396 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:08:36 -0800 Received: from bolt.sonic.net (IDENT:timlee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bolt.sonic.net (8.12.10/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j0CI8av5012580 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:08:36 -0800 Received: (from timlee@localhost) by bolt.sonic.net (8.12.10/8.12.1/Submit) id j0CI8afj012579; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:08:36 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:08:36 -0800 From: timlee Message-Id: <200501121808.j0CI8afj012579@bolt.sonic.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 USB printing problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:08:36 -0000 I have a PC (Asus A7M266 motherboard, AMD / VIA chipset) with FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 (kernel is like GENERIC, but has eisa and a bunch of storage stuff removed, and sound and COMPAT_LINUX added -- no changes to USB stuff from GENERIC) with a USB printer (Brother HL-5050). USB printing to the same printer worked when the same computer had FreeBSD 4.8 on it. The computer's USB stuff in dmesg is (after booting up with the printer on): uhci0: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 9 at device 4.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ulpt0: Brother HL-5050, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 9 at device 4.3 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Now, when I boot up the computer with the printer on, or turn on the printer for the first time after booting up, usbdevs shows: addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA addr 2: HL-5050, Brother addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA Then when I cat a text file to /dev/unlpt0, the printer's green light turns yellow, but nothing gets printed out. When I cat a text file to /dev/ulpt0, the shell gets stuck (and the printer's light turns green). Afterward, usbdevs shows: addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA addr 2: product 0x0017, Brother Industries addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA (pausing a long time between the first and second lines). If the printer is turned off and turned back on, usbdevs then shows: addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA addr 0 should never happen! addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA and dmesg shows: uhub0: device problem, disabling port 1 Neither lpd nor CUPS works either. What else should I try? Timothy J. Lee (timlee@sonic.net) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:10:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED2616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:10:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2329B43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:10:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2]) j0CIAUSe015931; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:10:30 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0CIAOpu029862; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:10:24 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "'Martin McCormick'" , Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:10:24 -0700 Message-ID: <003501c4f8d1$fcb88160$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <200501121719.j0CHJjx1018275@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.224 Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) Subject: RE: UNIX-Based VPN Applications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:10:40 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > I have been asked as to whether there are any VPN applications that > can run on UNIX clients using Linux, FreeBSD, and MacOS. I think the > general idea is that they could tunnel in from outside of our campus > and receive an IP number on our network. > > There would probably be a UNIX server on the campus end of the > network to accept these connections. > > Those of us who work here or are students can set up a UNIX box on > campus and use ssh in to it from anywhere. What I am asking about is > whether there is a VPN application that UNIX-users in general can > register with to have a presence on our network. > > Thank you very much. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group > _______________________________________________ I use vpnc which has worked very well. Good luck, Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:21:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B549616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:21:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gawab.com (www.gawab.com [204.97.230.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4554B43D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:21:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jadukor@gawab.com) Received: (qmail 22984 invoked by uid 1004); 12 Jan 2005 18:20:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20050112182012.22965.qmail@gawab.com> References: <20050102163014.10356.qmail@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: Received: from 202.84.36.231 by www.gawab.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:20:12 GMT From: "Emon" To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:20:12 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [202.84.36.231] Subject: File System mounting prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:21:48 -0000 Hello everyone I am newbie using FreeBDS 5.3, & would apprecate some advice on the folling problems First.... Is there any way to mount a filesystem, as a generel user? so that everytime I put a cd in the CD player I dont have to su to root just to mount it! Second.... I can't find kppp(the dial up connecter that used to come with KDE) anymore!?? If KDE is not providing it any more, then is there any other (GUI) substitute for it? Thanks Jadukor --------------------------------------------- Free POP3 Email from www.Gawab.com Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:23:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEAF16A4D0 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:23:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E234C43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:23:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89CB21C001F8 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:23:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5CDCE1C001C3 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:23:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050112182306380.5CDCE1C001C3@mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:23:05 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <332890237.20050112192305@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050112175137.GA2734@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> <167683180.20050112072014@wanadoo.fr> <20050112111542.GA1651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <1869737534.20050112184102@wanadoo.fr> <20050112175137.GA2734@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:23:09 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: GK> The 'separate file' is NOTES. This file is actually the complete GK> reference of options that the kernel supports, so it's not like the SMP GK> option is hidden or something. I must have a magic special version of FreeBSD: # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # grep SMP * NOTES:# SMP OPTIONS: NOTES:# The apic device can be used in both UP and SMP kernels, but is required NOTES:# for SMP kernels. Thus, the apic device is not strictly an SMP option, NOTES:# but it is a prerequisite for SMP. NOTES:# Be sure to disable 'cpu I386_CPU' for SMP kernels. NOTES:# Enabling this with an SMP kernel will cause the kernel to be unusable. NOTES:options I4B_SMP_WORKAROUND SMP:# SMP -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 SMP SMP:# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/SMP,v 1.5.4.1 2004/10/23 20:04:00 kensmith Exp $ SMP:options SMP # The "options SMP" appears only in a file called SMP on my system. GK> Because it's not always a 'profit'. GK> GK> The locking and synchronization overhead is not always negligible. My experience with multiprocessing on other systems is that this overhead is rarely an issue. For single-threaded compute-bound user processes and occasionally for some similarly-designed OS processes it sometimes makes a difference; usually there's a net gain, though. At some specific number of processors (often 5 or more, but it depends on many things), the additional overhead associated with managing yet another processor (including hardware and software contention) causes global performance to diminish rather than increase. 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=P0jKt1NsjwNAMKOpAWNb32Ep0O9zlHXd39ggyMx0Xo05FELHrRGhxfRjAX8ptgBC8LN38KAblzYTz8xcz65J9DAj4TQhplEn1LrB1T/GLxkyLxGGm6zT+j2808UDsy9OFFbiiXdPToJ5IK8BNrZJpl5qBMgXqpwDv1ciXQ2M/9U= ; Message-ID: <20050112183618.78488.qmail@web51009.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.147.160.231] by web51009.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:36:18 PST Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:36:18 -0800 (PST) From: faisal gillani To: Jonathan Chen In-Reply-To: <20050111182457.GA856@osiris.chen.org.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: finding installation date ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:36:21 -0000 that shows 24 feb 2004 .. but isnt that the release date of my freebsd 5.2 ? thanks --- Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:49:26AM -0800, faisal > gillani wrote: > > how can i find what date did i install my freebsd > box > > The date of the files in /rescue will tell you the > date of your last > installation or installworld. > -- > Jonathan Chen > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Don't worry about > avoiding temptation, > as you grow older, it > starts avoiding you. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ===== *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:36:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA2C16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:36:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41414.mail.yahoo.com (web41414.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6096343D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:36:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davemac11@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 15008 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2005 18:36:46 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=VPg+58Gk7HUjmLK4vMegP9EYdiNgzASjAcSq7wd1Qag7E3oO67GZsyKDGiBVFM4iy9BmapyBsYUcPiu8/H5lE9erSNNt7HTkbw8ETBVOaP4Bti790hEA8ikPV0q5UT5u1pFRG1CaB5Q8hq8i7eKyrdyb/qaGVHDNfMoev0aRT3c= ; Message-ID: <20050112183646.15006.qmail@web41414.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.91.4.66] by web41414.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:36:46 PST Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:36:46 -0800 (PST) From: Dave McCammon To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <713FFA5AE5E6C6E47C556A56@utd49554.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:36:46 -0000 --- Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Tuesday, January 11, 2005 05:48:41 PM -0800 > sp0ng3b0b > wrote: > > > > I'm in the same boat. I've had mixed results with > 5.3. I advise you to > > test it out for your needs. If your hardware and > apps play well together, > > go for it. As a web, mysql and samba server, I've > had no problems. > > > > As an IDS running snort, I've had problems with > the nge driver. I need > > these NICs for monitoring gigabit links. Simply > "uping" the interface > > caused FreeBSD to panic. I posted here and opened > a problem report, but > > got no replies. FWIW, I never saw a kernel panic > until I used 5.3, but I > > do acknowledge that the technology added is new > and results may very. > > > Thanks for pointing that out. In fact, *one* of the > servers *will* be > running snort. I'm not sure what our NICs are, > though. I believe they're > Intel, but I'll have to check. > I'm using 5.3 on a Dell PE750 as a firewall with snort running. Has dual Intel Pro 1000/100 (em drivers). Also have 5.3 running on a PE1750 as a email virus and spam scanner. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:38:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982C516A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao08.cox.net (lakermmtao08.cox.net [68.230.240.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE72743D5C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwm@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from sentinelchicken.net ([68.226.91.117]) by lakermmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with SMTP <20050112183835.QUQN16610.lakermmtao08.cox.net@sentinelchicken.net> for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:38:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 19052 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jan 2005 18:42:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:42:43 -0500 From: Jason Morgan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112184243.GA18515@sentinelchicken.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: burncd: "device busy" error when writing .iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:36 -0000 I am attempting to burn an .iso of the 5.3 mini distribution and keep running into the following error: # burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso fixate next writeable LBA 0 writing from file 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso size 274400 KB written this track 640 KB (0%) total 640 KB only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes: Device busy fixating CD, please wait.. I have verified that the drive is working and is accessible. I have tried different media and keep running into the same result. # dmesg | grep acd0 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master PIO4 This is a new drive, that I just recently installed. Oh, I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p11 #7. Any suggestions? I've only burned CDs with FreeBSD a few times and never on this system, so I'm kinda a newb. Thanks for your time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:40:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73F716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:40:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E9043D41 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:40:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F2EB5643A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:40:01 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:40:01 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: faisal gillani Message-ID: <20050112184001.GA722@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050111182457.GA856@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20050112183618.78488.qmail@web51009.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050112183618.78488.qmail@web51009.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: finding installation date ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:40:05 -0000 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:36:18AM -0800, faisal gillani wrote: > that shows 24 feb 2004 .. > but isnt that the release date of my freebsd 5.2 ? Try looking at the date of the /rescue directory and see what that says. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive. > --- Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:49:26AM -0800, faisal > > gillani wrote: > > > how can i find what date did i install my freebsd > > box > > > > The date of the files in /rescue will tell you the > > date of your last > > installation or installworld. > > -- > > Jonathan Chen > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:40:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E84216A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:40:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B0743D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:40:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from [209.53.238.86] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ConPo-000CvD-Fj; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:40:20 -0800 Message-ID: <41E56F15.3080608@ccstores.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:40:21 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (86) Subject: 4.9 rebooting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:40:21 -0000 I have a remote server which has begun re-booting every few days. Are there any logs which I can examine that may provide a clue as to the reason? Or any logging I can turn "on/up" ? I realize that during a reboot, logs are seldom "up-to-date", but any clue would be handy. This is a remote co-located server which will take a fairly expensive trip to get hands-on with. I'd like to have ammunition at hand before I commit to the trip. Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:43:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9B116A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:43:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out.hotpop.com (smtp-out.hotpop.com [38.113.3.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D288543D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:43:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from personrp@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [38.113.3.103]) by smtp-out.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E48ACE46D1 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 110-ccbh-131.ccbh.upmc.edu (110-ccbh-131.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.131]) by smtp-1.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0F21A01A5; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:42:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Rod Person Organization: Open Source Beef To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:43:05 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20050102163014.10356.qmail@gawab.com> <20050112182012.22965.qmail@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: <20050112182012.22965.qmail@gawab.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501121343.06568.personrp@hotpop.com> X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- cc: Emon Subject: Re: File System mounting prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: personrp@hotpop.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:43:04 -0000 On Wednesday 12 January 2005 6:20 pm, Emon wrote: > Is there any way to mount a filesystem, as a generel user? so > that everytime I put a cd in the CD player I dont have to su to > root just to mount it! > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html > > I can't find kppp(the dial up connecter that used to come with > KDE) anymore!?? If KDE is not providing it any more, then is > there any other (GUI) substitute for it? I used to use ppxp long ago it's still in the ports. It simple and easy to= =20 use. =2D-=20 Rod ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If you stay the same long enough you'll be in=20 style some day again." =A0Cren Dog=20 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 19:49:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9931716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:49:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A0643D4C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:49:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050112194918016002fbqce>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:49:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 54054 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2005 19:51:59 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 19:51:59 -0000 Message-ID: <41E5806B.1040806@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:54:19 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202E948C5@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> In-Reply-To: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202E948C5@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3F2E79DC22623A39ED961E6E" Subject: Re: smtp pull X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:49:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3F2E79DC22623A39ED961E6E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Maybe fetchmail is what you need? That is what most of dialup users use when they run their own MTA servers. > > > Fetchmail uses POP. > > >>Obviously I can make smtp1 drop the mail in a mailbox on >>smtp1 and then >>get smtp2 to imap or pop the mail out however I'm looking for >>something that's fast and pop doesn't really excite me.. >> >> Maybe rsync or scp? If you use /var/mail, maybe do: scp /var/mail/ ./ then: formail < -s --------------enig3F2E79DC22623A39ED961E6E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB5YBrmcXjc1XBrAQRAqKaAJ0VGxOddEOSX9gQ4lwQ5HtKx7qm2wCgtNr7 1K5zQYrPsGyNlChnkwASSp0= =EfG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3F2E79DC22623A39ED961E6E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 19:58:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A7C16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:58:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6864643D41 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:58:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so832428wri for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:58:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oaoX2mqpMlx7NiUMQmth57LS9nb2BVfM1Jh0wRENrd0T+g9BaBRhFE1y3iVIFlbI7jE+uZAhaC2koq/kI6JP7bSwMNZIW1L0MxleX7ARjuvXsBs0najtiH2VRAFtM2hXv0rKpk7Rro0TFXBzhs2oSqDBNvzRGJKA6J+e8Pt9Mm4= Received: by 10.54.59.11 with SMTP id h11mr481194wra; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:58:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c30050112115842aa3b17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:58:49 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:58:50 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:29:01 +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 12:02:37AM -0500, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > > By default the system will detect a HTT processor, but can only launch > > the second 'virtual' CPU core if you recompile the kernel with the SMP > > option enabled. > > Not true on 5.3+ GENERIC systems. If you look at dmesg, you'll see the > second virtual CPU launched as well as the extra column in top(1) if > you enable HTT in the BIOS. You are incorrect. There is no SMP option in the 5.3-R i386 GENERIC config file as distributed. Other platforms (sparc64 and alpha) do ship with SMP enabled by default. They're not using HTT, though, so are irrelevant to this discussion. Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:12:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDC616A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:12:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E6B343D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:12:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sp0ng3b0b@sbcglobal.net) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.1.25?) (joe?stevensen@69.107.45.115 with plain) by smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 20:12:44 -0000 Message-ID: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:12:42 -0800 From: sp0ng3b0b User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:12:44 -0000 I am getting a quote for a new server. I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 fiber gigabit card. Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Opterons and FreeBSD 5.3? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:17:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5CE16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9492843D3F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:17:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so693803wri for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:17:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=d9Y00be3uwhV86ZPA9SnSd2r2iuyTCvMlLMVrYAEYMB1UqPv8JkT5oFHS/+9A3Ig2DqlLtmrfG0s584zEDMr6oVSruaJQr/tcskWd2wwjSxFA2AfPJTYvcGBzSLu17tfLN01SYQTfV2p46k0i9zZsb9RFdVIeXO7/EyEKhm+o8s= Received: by 10.54.17.29 with SMTP id 29mr97347wrq; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:17:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c3005011212174b8a2dc6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:17:35 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:17:39 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:02:37 -0500, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > I'm experiencing some strangeness with a uniproc HTT-capable machine > and SATA with either SMP or non-SMP kernels, so I'll try turning off > HTT in the BIOS later this week and see if that helps. Well, this is interesting. I disabled HTT in the BIOS and rebooted with a SMP kernel. As expected, there is only one CPU available after boot. However, FreeBSD still detects that the CPU is HTT-capable and prints the following in dmesg output: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2793.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf33 Stepping = 3 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs If my sig11 issue doesn't recur now that HTT is off I'll go back to a non-SMP kernel and confirm there are no issues there too. Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:25:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4769D16A50F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:25:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB58C43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:25:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b175.otenet.gr [212.205.244.183]) j0CKP8wC030499 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:25:23 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0CKOJ5V000886 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:24:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0CKNLVh000873 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:23:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:23:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112202320.GA737@gothmog.gr> References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <20050112014359.GA3722@gothmog.gr> <35de0c30050111210235ea3060@mail.gmail.com> <20050112052901.GA61033@osiris.chen.org.nz> <167683180.20050112072014@wanadoo.fr> <20050112111542.GA1651@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <1869737534.20050112184102@wanadoo.fr> <20050112175137.GA2734@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <332890237.20050112192305@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <332890237.20050112192305@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:25:31 -0000 On 2005-01-12 19:23, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > > GK> The 'separate file' is NOTES. This file is actually the complete > GK> reference of options that the kernel supports, so it's not like the SMP > GK> option is hidden or something. > > I must have a magic special version of FreeBSD: > > # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > # grep SMP * > NOTES:# SMP OPTIONS: Look in /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES too. The machine independent kernel options are listed there, instead of the machine-dependent NOTES file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:31:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AFE16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:31:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3AC43D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:31:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 3B0742841E; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:32:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9E6C5285F4; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:31:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD16622B; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:31:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CKVbUt031550; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:31:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:31:37 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: sp0ng3b0b In-Reply-To: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20050112212935.O802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:31:57 -0000 On Jan 12 at 12:12, sp0ng3b0b launched this into the bitstream: > > I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 fiber > gigabit card. > Err, I'd like to get one of those too! With 16GB of ECC DDR400 RAM and 10 15K RPM SCSI Ultra's in a RAID0/1 array naturally. Yeah, damn straight! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E7816A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:32:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com (dagney.celestial.com [192.136.111.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D1E43D2D; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:32:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id DE55011E8C8; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:32:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:32:40 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Questions Questions Message-ID: <20050112203240.GA30500@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Questions Questions References: <1050E60D-645E-11D9-87A5-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <41E52F04.4030001@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: How dangerous is HFS+ in FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:32:42 -0000 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005, Timothy Luoma wrote: > >On Jan 12, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>If you are simply recovering your mp3's^H^H^H^H^Hdata, > >Heh... actually my iPod is FAT32 because I had it with Windows before I >had a Mac. > >>then just mount it read only, copy data, unmount.. After the copy, who >>cares if it trashes it? > >yeah, read only is a good idea. > >I decided that rather than messing with HFS+ in FreeBSD (when I'll >likely never use it again), I would just enable FTP on FreeBSD and >upload the files. It'll take a little longer to do the copy, but I can >do it right now and work on other things while it is running, rather >than having to learn how to enable HFS+ (which would be good to know, >but I've got a lot of other things pressing at the moment, so saving a >bit of time today is good). I was going to suggest ftp, rsync, scp, or some other network transfer. >I guess the next question is figuring out what filesystem to use on the >drive once all the data I want/need is off of it. The external firewire drives on all our Macs, and at least half the available space on their internal hard drives is partitioned with UFS file systems. Originally I did this to avoid the OS X case insensitivity which bit me in the butt within an hour of my first porting efforts. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Memoirs -- Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs, and his wife Hillary got $8 million for hers. That's $20 million for memories from two people who for eight years repeatedly testified they couldn't remember anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:37:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBDE16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:37:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-5.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0B243D54 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:37:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [217.159.162.99] (217-159-162-99-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [217.159.162.99]) by MXR-5.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808FAFA399 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:31 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E58A4E.9000105@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:36:30 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: can't figure out an one-liner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:37:35 -0000 Hello! I have a directory structure like this /home /joe /peter /bill ... etc I'm trying to move some (but not all) subdirectories of /home to /newhome, using tar. I'm doing this as root on FreeBSD 4.10, the shell is csh. I'd like to get it done with one command line. I'm trying variations of this command # pwd /newhome # for luser in 'joe peter bill' { tar cf - -C /home $luser | tar xf - } ... but I keep getting error messages that luser is undefined. What am I doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:38:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23FD16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:38:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wildbean.clapper.org (wildbean.clapper.org [216.158.26.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE06A43D54 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:38:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmc@clapper.org) Received: from condor.inside.clapper.org (phantom@condor.inside.clapper.org [172.16.87.5]) by wildbean.clapper.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0CKbxF1045769 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from z.inside.clapper.org (z.inside.clapper.org [172.16.87.2]) j0CKbxX6047075 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:37:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200501122037.j0CKbxX6047075@condor.inside.clapper.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:37:59 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Brian Clapper In-Reply-To: <41E5806B.1040806@comcast.net> References: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202E948C5@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> <41E5806B.1040806@comcast.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Face: /perrud9r1.|7j.*=/6)a%vZ$^sBn!P[?+}vWBxd1ps{4hd2ZOw8]u&t';}(kj=x; JpdSF7 1b<*T{.38]wnWl]j/ULRB*49qdsET_/)-siUd7A_n- List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:38:02 -0000 On 12 January, 2005, at 14:54 (-0500) Kris Maglione wrote: > > >Maybe fetchmail is what you need? That is what most of dialup users use when they run their own MTA servers. > > > > > > > Fetchmail uses POP. It'll do more than just POP. From the man page: AUTO Tries IMAP, POP3, and POP2 (skipping any of these for which support has not been compiled in). POP2 Post Office Protocol 2 POP3 Post Office Protocol 3 APOP Use POP3 with old-fashioned MD5-challenge authentication. RPOP Use POP3 with RPOP authentication. KPOP Use POP3 with Kerberos V4 authentication on port 1109. SDPS Use POP3 with Demon Internet's SDPS extensions. IMAP IMAP2bis, IMAP4, or IMAP4rev1 (fetchmail autodetects their capabilities). ETRN Use the ESMTP ETRN option. ODMR Use the the On-Demand Mail Relay ESMTP profile. It seems like the ideal solution for the original poster's needs. It can pull mail down from the external machine, using any of the above protocols, and will feed the mail to the internal machine's SMTP server. Brian Clapper, http://www.clapper.org/bmc/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:41:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D4916A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:41:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1149743D41 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:41:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from pooh.nagual.st (pooh.nagual.st [::ffff:192.168.11.22]) by nagual.st with esmtp; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:41:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:40:56 +0100 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050112214056.7ba256cc.dick@nagual.st> Organization: nagual SiTe X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0rc (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: apache1.3 mysql and php X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:41:11 -0000 I'd like to give phpBB (kind of a php driven userboard) a change. This means I'll have to change my apache 1.3.33 server into a PHP, MySQL Apache1.3.33 server. I will do the reading, but I appreciate some links on how to set up this combination from ports. I googled but got lost in the information _not_ exactly being what I looked for ;-( -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:46:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB4D16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:46:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C819043D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:46:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005011220464901300t052se>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:46:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 71080 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2005 20:49:30 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 20:49:30 -0000 Message-ID: <41E58DE2.9040702@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:51:46 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> <20050112212935.O802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050112212935.O802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9C6DA67E640D57E740016270" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:46:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9C6DA67E640D57E740016270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colin J. Raven wrote: >On Jan 12 at 12:12, sp0ng3b0b launched this into the bitstream: > > > >>I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 fiber >>gigabit card. >> >> >> > >Err, I'd like to get one of those too! >With 16GB of ECC DDR400 RAM and 10 15K RPM SCSI Ultra's in a RAID0/1 >array naturally. > > If you were getting 2 Opterons, why stop ad 16 GB of RAM? Might as well get 32... just to be safe. --------------enig9C6DA67E640D57E740016270 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB5Y3nmcXjc1XBrAQRArisAJ9k/l1wdUj3VuaUOskpmhijMK2xKACeLMfq r0QsnxMBNlaYQLi8KtrDZgE= =81uP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9C6DA67E640D57E740016270-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:47:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B46216A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:47:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2334843D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:47:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 457B851252; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:47:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:47:22 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: craig Message-ID: <20050112204722.GA52826@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41E51252.7090906@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E51252.7090906@online.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'cause the ports don't work... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:47:23 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 01:04:34PM +0100, craig wrote: > i've had a good couple of problems installing ports, either because of=20 > compilation issues, or because they were just not there. > is there something i am missing? >=20 > zB, i need to install stlport, and a quick search on www.freshports.org= =20 > shows that it should be as easy as > pkg_add -r stlport-gcc >=20 > when i try that, however, it fails real quick with a 'unable to fetch'=20 > error. > it is not alone in this, some port packages work. some not. >=20 > when that fails, i typically go into the relevant /usr/ports/ directory= =20 > and go through the make process. > but for a port whose package failed, more often than not the make=20 > process fails too. >=20 > am i missing something? Some packages may not be redistributed for license reasons, and others are broken at a given time (obviously if the port build fails the package can not be produced). If the package was buildable and redistributable at the time of the last build, it will be on the ftp site. > (on that note - portversion -l "<" tells me that openoffice is behind,=20 > but when i try to portupgrade it also fails...) >=20 > any suggestions? Include useful error messages when reporting errors, we can't guess what's going wrong on your system. Kris --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5YzZWry0BWjoQKURAgIvAKCTCX/uIoI8qb0G7t5stUfZ6lb4zQCfRZE7 ULydX/yVhxV4u9mMoghIPCY= =hPo0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:49:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B4216A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:49:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073D743D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:49:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005011220495601400ge4rbe>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:49:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 72008 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2005 20:52:36 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 20:52:36 -0000 Message-ID: <41E58EA0.4040405@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:56 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050102163014.10356.qmail@gawab.com> <20050112182012.22965.qmail@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: <20050112182012.22965.qmail@gawab.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE5CA0663AF72D5DDB2493FF3" Subject: Re: File System mounting prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:49:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE5CA0663AF72D5DDB2493FF3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I can't find kppp(the dial up connecter that used to come with >KDE) anymore!?? If KDE is not providing it any more, then is >there any other (GUI) substitute for it? > > kppp is part of the kdenetwork port. It should automagically appear on the kde menu under Internet (maybe Network, don't remember which). If not, just add it yourself of use the "Run command" applett and just type kppp --------------enigE5CA0663AF72D5DDB2493FF3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB5Y6gmcXjc1XBrAQRAi1MAJ9qEcTgbWJtTQUyzL4FNzd4T6VoggCgj7GI 6b+a/hcvxtzy/qIC64KuAE8= =BOXt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE5CA0663AF72D5DDB2493FF3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:53:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1578716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:53:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parrot.aev.net (host29-15.pool8174.interbusiness.it [81.74.15.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C47943D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:52:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-16-6.41-151.net24.it [151.41.6.16]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0CL3np2049228 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:03:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from netfence.it (xanatar.ventu [10.1.2.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0CKpDp2055698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:51:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <41E58E53.7060606@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:53:39 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040117 X-Accept-Language: it,en,fr,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:53:01 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >>From what you say and from what I've read today, it sounds like > hyperthreading comes close to providing two separate processors for > heterogenous system loads (where each hyperthread is using slightly > different processor resources at any given instant), but it may not buy > much of anything for massively parallel compute-bound work, FWIW I tried numerical computations on a P4 with HT enabled: I expected using 2 threads might give *at least slightly* better results, but I could come to the conclusion that with 1, 2 or 4 threads the performance gain (or loss) was exactly zero. (BTW, an old AMD 2000 XP+ would in any case almost outperform a P4 3GHz, but that's another story). Obviously your use (as a server) is very different, and probably the one test I have done can't expect to achieve 100% coverage even in this field... but, anyway, just my 2 cents... bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:56:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABAE16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:56:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-5.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3595643D41 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:56:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [217.159.162.99] (217-159-162-99-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [217.159.162.99]) by MXR-5.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7EB10B3F6 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:56:01 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E58EA5.3060903@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:55:01 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Replacing both disks in RAID1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:56:05 -0000 Hello! I have a small server running FreeBSD 4.10, 2 x 80 GB drives mirrored on Promise TX2 integrated RAID1 controller. I'd like to replace the 80 GB drives with 200 GB drives. Here's my current plan: 1. Attach one of the new drives to free ICH4 IDE port on motherboard, partition it and transfer the data using dump/tar. 2. Remove the 80 GB drives, attach 200 GB drives (one with data, one blank) to TX2 IDE ports and re-create the mirror using Promise onboard BIOS utility. 3. Reboot, fix the fstab (if necessary) and be done with it. I have one doubt with it. Currently my partitions are ar0s1a (/), ar0s1b (swap), ar0s1e (/var) etc. When I create corresponding partitions on the new drive while it is attached to ICH4 controller, the partitions are created as ad0s1a, ad0s1b etc. When I then move this drive to TX2 port and re-create the mirror the partitions should again be ar0s1a, ar0s1b etc. Will it "just work" or will it not work at all? Thanks in advance, -- Toomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 21:04:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B7A16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9783C43D55 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:04:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nkinkade@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAEFC4CE1C; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:04:02 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: Krhmjo5l0HYM7U9IIv78pg 1105563840 Received: from gentoo-npk.bmp.ub (unknown [206.27.244.136]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84974247F3; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from nkinkade by gentoo-npk.bmp.ub with local (Exim 4.21) id 1Copep-0003Nw-Bi; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:03:59 -0600 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:03:59 -0600 From: Nathan Kinkade To: Toomas Aas Message-ID: <20050112210359.GN3639@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> References: <41E58A4E.9000105@raad.tartu.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wmfuW8osuO2pi9jF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E58A4E.9000105@raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't figure out an one-liner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nathan Kinkade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:04:05 -0000 --wmfuW8osuO2pi9jF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:36:30PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hello! >=20 > I have a directory structure like this >=20 > /home > /joe > /peter > /bill > ... etc >=20 > I'm trying to move some (but not all) subdirectories of /home to=20 > /newhome, using tar. I'm doing this as root on FreeBSD 4.10, the shell=20 > is csh. I'd like to get it done with one command line. >=20 > I'm trying variations of this command >=20 > # pwd > /newhome >=20 > # for luser in 'joe peter bill' { tar cf - -C /home $luser | tar xf - } >=20 > ... but I keep getting error messages that luser is undefined. >=20 > What am I doing wrong? Are /home and /newhome on different filesystems? What wrong with a simple mv? For example: # mv joe peter bill /newhome If the directories are on the same filesystem the move won't require anything but some shuffling of metadata and will happen pretty much instantaneously. Nathan --wmfuW8osuO2pi9jF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB5ZC/O0ZIEthSfkkRArWBAJ0adw2/U5xl3Z3CFHOtRgvixRqsiACg5M83 3ITzm4fXcqTjzHmHxxcRP18= =n6fk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wmfuW8osuO2pi9jF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 21:29:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7167216A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:29:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.68.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1460543D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3/d) with ESMTP id j0CLTS6g008878; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:29:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:29:28 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200501122129.j0CLTSQo008877@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:29:55 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:45:56 +0100 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Scott Bennett writes: > >SB> Well, no, not exactly. The dual-cored CPUs share certain resources >SB> on the chip that are not shared in a multi-CPU situation, and that sharing >SB> means certain operations have to be handled differently. An MP setup has >SB> separate cache and TLB managment in each CPU ... > >What's TLB? Translation Lookaside Buffer. (I know. It's a weird name. I think its origin was at IBM, which would explain the weirdness completely.) Its a collection of registers that contains the results of the most recent address translations. These results are kept around in order to avoid going through the full address translation process for addresses in pages for which address translation has already occurred. It's a big time-saver. When a virtual address is encountered that isn't in the TLB, then address translation proceeds from scratch, and the result replaces the least recently used entry in the TLB. > >SB> ... whereas P4 w/HT logical processors share this memory management >SB> circuitry. Alteration of a cache line requires notification of the >SB> other processor(s) in an MP situation to mark any corresponding line >SB> in its(their) cache(s) because multiple separate caches are >SB> involved, but notification is not necessary in the P4 w/HT situation >SB> because it's the same cache being seen by both logical processors. >SB> Alteration/invalidation of TLB entries requires notification to >SB> invalidate in an MP, so that the other CPU(s) can purge any corresponding TLB >SB> entries it(they) may have, but notification is not required in the P4 w/HT >SB> situation because both logical processors are refering to the same TLB. Again, >SB> unnecessary purging would be a performance hit. >SB> There must be some special handling of TLB entries in the P4 w/HT that >SB> I haven't seen documented. (There almost certainly is documentation; I just >SB> haven't seen it yet.) There must be some way to distinguish between TLB >SB> entries filled per orders of one logical processor from those filled per >SB> orders of the other logical processor. If there weren't, then one logical >SB> processor would use TLB entries for the address space running on the other >SB> logical processor, which would, of course, be Very Bad. But, to improve >SB> performance, there should be some way to share TLBs for the case of two >SB> threads running concurrently in the same address space. If anyone reading >SB> this knows the details of how this is handled in these chips, please post them >SB> here. > >>From what you say and from what I've read today, it sounds like >hyperthreading comes close to providing two separate processors for >heterogenous system loads (where each hyperthread is using slightly >different processor resources at any given instant), but it may not buy >much of anything for massively parallel compute-bound work, since both >threads may want nearly the same things at the same time and will thus >effectively be forced to spend a lot of time waiting for each other. I think that's probably close to the truth. For logic and number crunching, the two logical processors can proceed in parallel. But they will compete for any non-register memory access, for address translation time, and possibly other resources. I notice that the 5.2.1 boot messages refer to the second core as an AP, which I'm guessing stands for "attached processor". If that guess is correct, then it means that only the first core is able to perform certain functions, and the AP core has to get the first core to do those things for it when it needs them done. Typically, such restricted functions include things like starting I/O operations, handling I/O interrupts, setting the system clock, etc. Whether these restrictions are the actual ones, if there are any at all, in this situation, I do not know. > >Fortunately, my server has a very mixed load, as one would expect for a >generic domain server, so hopefully it will profit from hyperthreading. > What Intel claims is essentially that the HT-enabled CPUs allow snappier responses in interactive processes when a CPU-bound process is running. >And hopefully no weird stuff will happen because I've turned on HT >(although offhand I'm not sure what would happen, unless there are >hidden hardware conflicts or something specific and software-visible >about HT in normal operation that might expose a bug). I'm not sure >that I see how HT could affect Serial ATA disks, for example, any more >than having two separate physical processors would. > Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 21:37:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1725816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:37:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8234B43D55 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:37:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0CLalj69074; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:36:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jim Pazarena" , Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:36:47 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <41E56F15.3080608@ccstores.com> Subject: RE: 4.9 rebooting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:37:08 -0000 If this was something like a kernel panic there would be a message in /var/log/messages If nothing is in there then it's probably failing hardware. My experiences in those cases is that no matter what logging you turn on, nothing gets logged, the machine just reboots. If it's a remote colocated server maybe the UPS it's on is shot, and it's getting power fluctuations. Or maybe it's overheating or it's clogged with dust. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jim Pazarena > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:40 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: 4.9 rebooting > > > I have a remote server which has begun re-booting every few days. > > Are there any logs which I can examine that may provide a clue as to > the reason? Or any logging I can turn "on/up" ? I realize that > during a reboot, logs are seldom "up-to-date", but any clue would > be handy. > > This is a remote co-located server which will take a fairly > expensive trip to get hands-on with. I'd like to have ammunition > at hand before I commit to the trip. > > Thanks, > Jim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 21:58:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068C216A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:58:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC4343D41 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:58:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so284751wri for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:58:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N0BeONAjHCiZiRvP5xVirpOeeefj4LgNKU8TN+FPontpwAGnGSSWRu+CCRqGV28WIQQewoDIC1BFUyFGOrnndejc0MVVrJ8Y1eLJY5aIxq2WUVTzbswd8bFnL57jo5Zl+ZiefWOHQawWxhaJ6P4HibKhOSCQoi16wNg/Rher6P4= Received: by 10.54.10.3 with SMTP id 3mr58287wrj; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.33.61 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:58:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2b5f066d05011213582d6d3324@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:58:25 -0500 From: Brian McCann To: FreeBSD mailinglist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Seg Fault in Dig on 5.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Brian McCann List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:58:28 -0000 Hi all. Wondering if anyone else is having similar problems. On 5.3-RELEASE (smp if it matters), I'm getting occasional (1 out of every 10 runs or so) seg faults from running dig. In the core dump, it makes mention of: pointer != NULL ERROR /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/cryptlib.c %s(%d): OpenSSL internal error, assertion failed: %s Anyone else experiencing this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 22:06:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE78C16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:06:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8371043D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:06:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0CM6c2D072841; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:06:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j0CM6ce0072838; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:06:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:06:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Florian Hengstberger In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050112150250.Q95286@wonkity.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:06:38 -0700 (MST) cc: FreeBSD mailinglist Subject: Re: Serial communication, terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:06:40 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Florian Hengstberger wrote: > I have a microcontroller with an uart interface. > I want to communicate with my computer through the serial port > of my FreeBSD box. > Is it somehow possible to connect the serial io to a xterm? > Case it is not: I don't want to write a program myself - > is there an existing program handling the io? See the man page for cu. To connect to a serial device on the first serial port at 9600 baud, for example: cu -l /dev/cuaa0 -s 9600 -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 22:14:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923FD16A4CF for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:14:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Webshield1.kwe.com (webshield1.kwe.com [202.19.126.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1021D43D49 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:14:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from faisal.ali@kwe.com) Received: From JER3000041 ([10.0.32.174]) by Webshield1.kwe.com (WebShield SMTP v4.5 MR1a P0803.345); id 1105546640406; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:17:20 +0000 From: "Faisal Ali" To: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:14:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTodS5l+ejzwYstTKqZFsRenBqA3gQfA/tw In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050112221441.1021D43D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FW: Vinum bootable RAID-1 setup help - RESOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:14:41 -0000 Hello, To follow-up on my initial question, Iam happy to inform that I have bootable RAID-1 FreeBSD 5.3 i386 Release working using "gmirror" using excellent documentation provided on http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ Thankyou for the heads-up in the Errata about GEOM related changes. Using "gvinum" I got the system booted and working, but I just could'nt add second drive and create a mirror, may be its because the vinum port to GEOM is not complete yet. Faisal > _____________________________________________ > From: Faisal Ali [mailto:faisal.ali@kwe.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 5:26 PM > To: 'questions@FreeBSD.org' > Subject: Vinum bootable RAID-1 setup help > > Hello, > > I really tried my best to follow the FreeBSD handbook documentation to > setup bootable RAID-1 volume, I just can't seem to understand Section > 17.9.2, Iam working with 5.3 i386 Release. > > Attached is the output of what I have done so far. Please tell me how do I > apply section 17.9.2 next. > > Sorry to ask such a lengthy question, but Iam contacting you after trying > my utmost to follow the documentation. > > A quick history.I have setup FreeBSD 5.3 on HP NetServer containing two > 4.26GB hotswappble Ultra2 SCSI drives. > > Thankyou > Faisal Ali > Network Engineer > Kintetsu Global IT Inc. > 100 Jericho Quadrangle, Suite 144 > Jericho, NY 11753 > > > << File: vinum bootable RAID-1 setup.txt >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 22:27:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE3D16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:27:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C0443D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:27:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0CMPCic005223 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:25:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0CMP6bN005222 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:25:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:25:06 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112222506.GA5173@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: httperf warning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:27:38 -0000 Hi, I've been benchmarking Apache13 the past few days with httperf and always see the following warning. Open file limit > FD_SETSIZE; limiting max. # of open files to FD_SETSIZE. Can I safely increase FD_SETSIZE without buggering anything up or is this something that shouldn't be touched? If it is safe to change is this an option that one would compile into the kernel itself or is there another way of doing so? I'm thinking that it would be options FD_SETSIZE=2088, the 2088 being equivalent kern.maxfiles? I'm probbaly wrong with this assumption so hopefully someone out there can help me out. Thanks Gardner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 22:50:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE5C16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:50:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B6F43D46 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:50:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0CMo69s073055; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:50:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j0CMo6t8073052; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:50:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:50:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Toomas Aas In-Reply-To: <41E58A4E.9000105@raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: <20050112152242.M95286@wonkity.com> References: <41E58A4E.9000105@raad.tartu.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:50:06 -0700 (MST) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't figure out an one-liner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:50:07 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Toomas Aas wrote: > # for luser in 'joe peter bill' { tar cf - -C /home $luser | tar xf - } > > ... but I keep getting error messages that luser is undefined. > > What am I doing wrong? In csh, it's "foreach", like this (tested): foreach luser (joe peter bill) echo $luser end The csh man page says: "Both foreach and end must appear alone on separate lines." But you should not use csh for scripting[1]. Instead, stick to standard sh (tested): for luser in joe bill ted; do echo $luser; done But that's ugly. Unless there's a good reason to stick with shell scripts, consider using Perl or Python[2] from the start. [1] Google for it. [2] I'd lean towards Python currently. Shame about the string interpolation, though. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:02:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BACF16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:02:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D7C43D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so537321wri for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:02:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=grdlUtum4WHr+WlVC/mwPnGAA2waFaguatiMbqYFGJuRyRyF0BepGHl+hyAvOw+qqLhnYjffgUbY6o60Trs8wIBCgKlUgkqzt8+Ga4YPspTqNIwt4zlyfLXnjyCXLq7B0hr2sl/9gfHwIs28cxlB1GJNmUumsaFaWlhMre8pe0k= Received: by 10.54.39.76 with SMTP id m76mr216835wrm; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.57 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:02:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:02:07 +1300 From: Juha Saarinen To: Scott Bye In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juha Saarinen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:02:10 -0000 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:44:57 -0000, Scott Bye wrote: > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and listening for connections. > > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. > > It's obviously affecting both POP3 and IMAP, leaving the mail services on my server useless. > > I tried reinstalling the port for courier-imap, but it complained that it couldn't find courierlogger. So I reinstalled courier-authlib from ports, and reinstalled courier-imap and it no longer complained. However, the services are still doing exactly the same! > > Any ideas what has happened?! > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" "Mr Sam", the Courier author, has made some pretty drastic changes with the new version. All the auth stuff has been moved into a separate package (courier-authlib). You need to add/edit some lines in rc.conf (see UPDATING) . Unfortunately, a straight upgrade of the port doesn't seem to work. I'm only using Courier-IMAP here, but had to delete the package and reinstall it after Courier-authlib to get things working again. -- Juha -- Juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:03:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6B216A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:03:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F3B43D1D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:03:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ggolan@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x71so3495cwb for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:03:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rsKY15wq0mAVc2ZaOB7xs8F1p5qhrw8qPWfNZE+BQnRbGTu8W3y29i9sfcMOz2dfefEFXj1oK9wtIi+d5DwqSJwbQc5Rjvh/KPgH54X0UnZq9SoExAVrv+G2zIFcQ557MPGGOainhLaddZk8NH6dTsdc0WZxOLVw27kZKFgwAyE= Received: by 10.11.100.80 with SMTP id x80mr282051cwb; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:03:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.11.100.73 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:03:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1534551b05011215032348e616@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:03:23 -0500 From: Gadi Golan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Apache Log Rotation & Statistics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gadi Golan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:03:24 -0000 Hi, What I am looking for here is some advice on what will be the best ways to acomplish what I have in mind. What I hope to acomplish follows, so any thoughts on how to do it, or if it is complex or impossible would be very helpful. I have Apache 2.x running with a collection of virtual hosts, each logging to their own access.log file. I want to offer log statistics to all of my virtual hosts on an individual basis. I want them to be able to go to say log.theirdomain.com or www.theirdomain.com/log and be able to view the statistics for their site from day x, week y, month z, year k, whatever. Ideally these logs will be stored compressed and in a directory specific to their virtual domain. I am sorry if I am not explaining this 100%, please feel free to ask me to clarify myself. Thanks much, Gadi Golan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:18:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8074F16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:18:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D44143D39 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:18:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id C9C3528626; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:18:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 47D852861A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:18:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD10B6230; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:18:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0CNI5g5034078; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:18:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:18:05 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Gadi Golan In-Reply-To: <1534551b05011215032348e616@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050113000524.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <1534551b05011215032348e616@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache Log Rotation & Statistics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:18:22 -0000 On Jan 12 at 18:03, Gadi Golan wondered aloud: > > I have Apache 2.x running with a collection of virtual hosts, each > logging to their own access.log file. I want to offer log statistics > to all of my virtual hosts on an individual basis. I want them to be > able to go to say log.theirdomain.com or www.theirdomain.com/log and > be able to view the statistics for their site from day x, week y, > month z, year k, whatever. Ideally these logs will be stored > compressed and in a directory specific to their virtual domain. Well, just some thoughts straight out of the box: Since you have individual logs for each virtual site, logrotate should do much of what you're aiming for I believe. If you don't already have it installed it's in; /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate There's a ton of highly useful stuff in the logrotate man pages, although I use few of the possibilities myself, and really when I think about it, ought to use more. Here's something that is apropos of your situation: (from man logrotate) The file you're immediately concerned with in the beginning BTW is: /etc/logrotate.conf CONFIGURATION FILE logrotate reads everything about the log files it should be handling from the series of configuration files specified on the command line. Each configuration file can set global options (local definitions over-ride global ones, and later definitions override earlier ones) and specify a logfile to rotate. A simple configuration file looks like this: # sample logrotate configuration file compress /var/log/messages { rotate 5 weekly postrotate /sbin/killall -HUP syslogd endscript } "/var/log/httpd/access.log" /var/log/httpd/error.log { rotate 5 mail www@my.org size=100k sharedscripts postrotate /sbin/killall -HUP httpd endscript } /var/log/news/news.crit { monthly rotate 2 olddir /var/log/news/old missingok postrotate kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inn.pid` endscript nocompress As you can see, there is much which you can use here. Logrotate is a powerful utility and may be perfect for your purposes. Good luck & HTH, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:24:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D5D16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:24:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53803.mail.yahoo.com (web53803.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E666243D46 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:24:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stigmata_blackangel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 45949 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2005 23:24:20 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=v0gQGA2F+j5StvpgZITIQ8jZtiqoH75yMuqlDAHT5zY8oNMFZV+ukD4ORteiaTq0DMy6eYLTw27FCWWEbRvUIVGxNVf5duJaYuZi2nSfzoIZKwU7yDXteCDJk8OJXyRmzsVn/MBvSlmOZw6NED0t3q4IRWmqGQjXT8j9+n2ESko= ; Message-ID: <20050112232420.45947.qmail@web53803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.9.155.250] by web53803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:24:20 PST Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:24:20 -0800 (PST) From: Gregor Mosheh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: server replication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:24:21 -0000 My employer is looking for solutions to achieve zero-downtime in the event of a hardware failure. I've been doing sysadmin for some time, but this is out of my league, and I wanted to ask the list for any advice, hints, etc. For starters, how does such a solution work conceptually? The possibility of load-balancing appliances has been suggested; how does this work with user databases and uploaded files? Our services are primarily web-based and do involve a significant amount of users uploading files, and database (postgres) work. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:27:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00C816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:27:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668CD43D2D for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:27:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD95420D3.dip.t-dialin.net [217.84.32.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379923016C; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:27:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E5B280.4050602@incubus.de> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:28:00 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florian Hengstberger References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD mailinglist Subject: Re: Serial communication, terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:27:53 -0000 Florian Hengstberger wrote: > I have a microcontroller with an uart interface. > I want to communicate with my computer through the serial port > of my FreeBSD box. > Is it somehow possible to connect the serial io to a xterm? > Case it is not: I don't want to write a program myself - > is there an existing program handling the io? kermit (ports/comms/kermit) is probably the most widely used terminal program, and it has more features and communications protocols than you'd ever need (including scriptability). cu has already been mentioned, tip is similar, and minicom is another one, imitating DOS-style terminal emulators (telix, telemate), although it's a bit inflexible. mkb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:28:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF5816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:28:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF14F43D49 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:28:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0CNSUAM008368 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:28:31 -0500 Message-ID: <41E5B2AD.9000702@schmittnet.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:28:45 -0500 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Defining MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:28:33 -0000 I'm trying to define some arguments in pkgtools.conf to use in a portinstall of moregroupware (deskutils/moregroupware). I haven't used pkgtools.conf before, and I'm apparently doing something wrong. I'm doing this under FBSD 4.9. In the Makefile, there is a section that states: .if defined(WITH_APACHE2) RUN_DEPENDS=${LOCALBASE}/libexec/apache2/libphp4.so:${PORTSDIR}/www/mod_php4 .else RUN_DEPENDS=${LOCALBASE}/libexec/apache/libphp4.so:${PORTSDIR}/www/mod_php4 .endif .if defined(WITH_MODULES) DISTFILES+=${PORTNAME}-modules-insecure-${PORTVERSION}${EXTRACT_SUFX} PLIST_SUB+=MODULES="" .else PLIST_SUB+=MODULES="@comment " .endif (note I removed some spaces to make wrapping fit) So, in the pkgtools.conf file, I added: MAKE_ARGS = { 'deskutils/moregroupware' => 'WITH_APACHE2 WITH_MODULES' } But, when I execute portupgrade moregroupware, I receive a message that states: make: don't know how to make WITH_APACHE2. Stop What am I doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:31:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF13316A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:31:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.UU.SE [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D68B43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:31:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 7E4D1493A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:31:43 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s2161; Thu, 13 Jan 05 00:31:33 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4469493A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:31:33 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 9A57B38016; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:31:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755B25C002; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:31:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:31:33 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Gregor Mosheh In-Reply-To: <20050112232420.45947.qmail@web53803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20050112232420.45947.qmail@web53803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: server replication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:31:45 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Gregor Mosheh wrote: > My employer is looking for solutions to achieve > zero-downtime in the event of a hardware failure. I've > been doing sysadmin for some time, but this is out of > my league, and I wanted to ask the list for any > advice, hints, etc. What you need then is some kind of clustering. If you want a really good one, look at OpenVMS. It's not very much like FreeBSD, though. /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:34:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB2016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:34:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E197B43D2F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:34:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 4583 invoked by uid 207); 12 Jan 2005 23:34:45 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.202):. Processed in 1.023842 secs); 12 Jan 2005 23:34:45 -0000 Received: from dialup202.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.202]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Jan 2005 23:34:43 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0CNYfvg022336; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:34:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0CNYepf022301; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:34:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:34:40 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" Message-ID: <20050112233440.GA15498@gothmog.gr> References: <41E5B2AD.9000702@schmittnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E5B2AD.9000702@schmittnet.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Defining MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:34:49 -0000 On 2005-01-12 18:28, "Bill Schmitt (SW)" wrote: > So, in the pkgtools.conf file, I added: > > MAKE_ARGS = { > 'deskutils/moregroupware' => 'WITH_APACHE2 WITH_MODULES' > } > > But, when I execute portupgrade moregroupware, I receive a message that > states: > > make: don't know how to make WITH_APACHE2. Stop Try setting the make options to something... anything, it doesn't matter. make(1) sees that the respective command-line arguments do not contain an '=' character and assumes they are not make variables, but targets to be made from the port source. For example, try this: MAKE_ARGS = { 'deskutils/moregroupware' => 'WITH_APACHE2=yes WITH_MODULES=yes', } This should work fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:39:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0302716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:39:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A3D43D31 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:38:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0CNcsFa023667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E5B4EB.8010301@mac.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:19 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregor Mosheh References: <20050112232420.45947.qmail@web53803.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050112232420.45947.qmail@web53803.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: server replication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:39:00 -0000 Gregor Mosheh wrote: > For starters, how does such a solution work > conceptually? The possibility of load-balancing > appliances has been suggested; how does this work with > user databases and uploaded files? Our services are > primarily web-based and do involve a significant > amount of users uploading files, and database > (postgres) work. For databases, you'll need to look into a RDMBS which supports parallelism and distributed transaction processing. Oracle will sell you something, albeit for a hefty price. :-) For files, people using redundant multipath topology over fibre-channel, which allows several machines to access the same filestorage safely in parallel. I'm not sure there's much of the available for FreeBSD, but Apple just released their Xsan product based off the Xserve RAID boxes and various third-party fibre-channel switches. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 23:43:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB9F16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:43:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DC043D48 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0CNh7AM018794; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:43:09 -0500 Message-ID: <41E5B61A.2080004@schmittnet.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:43:22 -0500 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <41E5B2AD.9000702@schmittnet.com> <20050112233440.GA15498@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: <20050112233440.GA15498@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Defining MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:43:13 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-01-12 18:28, "Bill Schmitt (SW)" wrote: > >>So, in the pkgtools.conf file, I added: >> >>MAKE_ARGS = { >> 'deskutils/moregroupware' => 'WITH_APACHE2 WITH_MODULES' >>} >> >>But, when I execute portupgrade moregroupware, I receive a message that >>states: >> >>make: don't know how to make WITH_APACHE2. Stop > > > Try setting the make options to something... anything, it doesn't > matter. make(1) sees that the respective command-line arguments do not > contain an '=' character and assumes they are not make variables, but > targets to be made from the port source. For example, try this: > > MAKE_ARGS = { > 'deskutils/moregroupware' => 'WITH_APACHE2=yes WITH_MODULES=yes', > } > > This should work fine. > > > That seems to have done it. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 00:24:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A8716A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:24:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D9E43D2D; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:24:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Tm4528@aol.com) Received: from Tm4528@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.148.3bec082b (1320); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:23:57 -0500 (EST) From: Tm4528@aol.com Message-ID: <148.3bec082b.2f17199c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:23:56 EST To: rwatson@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:24:02 -0000 Mr Watson, As you are listed as the leader of the FreeBSD foundation, and you seem to be the only one willing to admit that FreeBSD 5.3 is not yet up to the performance of 4.x, doesn't in concern you that: 1) Freebsd 4.x is not being supported as a production O/S, and the "support" is ending with 4.11 before 5.x is ready performance-wise? 2) FreeBSD 4.x doesn't seem to work well with the 7520/5 chipsets, which are required to run the latest Intel XEON CPUs (Dell's most powerful servers, for example, are based on the 7520). A long-standing PR has been largely ignored 3) None of your "developers", according to Ted M, have ever "heard of" Intel's latest and most powerful chipsets. 4) no one in your "organization" seems to care about 1, 2 or 3 FreeBSD has fallen into a performance "hole" of sorts, in that the fastest version doesnt run on the fastest Motherboards. Its easily correctable, by simply dedicating resources for a day or 2 to find out whats wrong with the 7520 support. I'd like to hear why you don't think its worthwhile, as a primary goal, to make certain that the fastest version of the product works well on the fastest available motherboards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 00:43:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B7E16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:43:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A9543D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:43:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0912.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A4E8A1C005E4 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:43:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0912.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 859031C005E1 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:43:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:43:54 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E58E53.7060606@netfence.it> References: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> <41E58E53.7060606@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:43:56 -0000 Andrea Venturoli writes: AV> FWIW I tried numerical computations on a P4 with HT enabled: I expected AV> using 2 threads might give *at least slightly* better results, but I AV> could come to the conclusion that with 1, 2 or 4 threads the performance AV> gain (or loss) was exactly zero. Where these computations in which all threads were doing pretty much the same thing? And was it floating-point? (Doesn't the processor have just one FPU, or something like that?) AV> BTW, an old AMD 2000 XP+ would in any case almost outperform a P4 3GHz, AV> but that's another story. An AMD processor will also melt or catch fire if the CPU fan fails, whereas an Intel processor won't. I found this out the hard way, and so henceforth I'll be installing Intel processors. The cost savings one gets from buying AMD isn't enough to pay for a new motherboard or PC. AV> Obviously your use (as a server) is very different, and probably the AV> one test I have done can't expect to achieve 100% coverage even in AV> this field... but, anyway, just my 2 cents... I have no easy way to measure the performance on my system, so I'm mostly just speculating--but it seems logical. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 00:44:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0180816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:44:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A98A43D39 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09676129 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:44:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72941-07 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:43:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3D760EA for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:43:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E5C461.2050800@makeworld.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:44:17 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <148.3bec082b.2f17199c@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <148.3bec082b.2f17199c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:44:05 -0000 Tm4528@aol.com wrote: > Mr Watson, > > As you are listed as the leader of the FreeBSD foundation, and you seem to be > the > only one willing to admit that FreeBSD 5.3 is not yet up to the performance > of 4.x, > doesn't in concern you that: > > 1) Freebsd 4.x is not being supported as a production O/S, and the "support" > is > ending with 4.11 before 5.x is ready performance-wise? > 2) FreeBSD 4.x doesn't seem to work well with the 7520/5 chipsets, which are > required to run the latest Intel XEON CPUs (Dell's most powerful servers, for > example, > are based on the 7520). A long-standing PR has been largely ignored > 3) None of your "developers", according to Ted M, have ever "heard of" Intel's > latest and most powerful chipsets. > 4) no one in your "organization" seems to care about 1, 2 or 3 > > FreeBSD has fallen into a performance "hole" of sorts, in that the fastest > version > doesnt run on the fastest Motherboards. Its easily correctable, by simply > dedicating > resources for a day or 2 to find out whats wrong with the 7520 support. I'd > like to hear > why you don't think its worthwhile, as a primary goal, to make certain that > the > fastest version of the product works well on the fastest available > motherboards. Hahahaha - are we smelling a troll?! -- Best regards, Chris I finally got it all together ... but I forgot where I put it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 00:57:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E768016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:57:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E4143D55 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:57:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (user-33qt9b2.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.165.98]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D22417D014 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:57:36 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: <9094-SnapperMsgD246FC56BE0A255B@68.243.126.247> <0D509666-643F-11D9-A9EF-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1B7A5B3E-64FE-11D9-8070-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:57:32 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:57:42 -0000 On Jan 12, 2005, at 12:34 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: > ps - thanks to all who responded. I'm going to disable HT, boot to > FreeBSD and try another large file transfer and see if I see the large > delays. If no, I'll copy the files I need off the XP drive and > reinstall XP. Ok, well I disabled HT and still saw the delays. Then I figured out that it wasn't FreeBSD, it was Apple's ftpd. I started ftpd on the FreeBSD machine and used 'put' instead of 'get' and that worked just fine. Still, given all that's been said, I disabled HT and reinstalled XP. Thanks to all who shared their insight. TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:00:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132DB16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676D543D49 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:00:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j0D10jKj027397 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:00:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:07:05 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> (from sp0ng3b0b@sbcglobal.net on Wed Jan 12 15:12:42 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1105578425l.15851l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:00:49 -0000 On 01/12/05 15:12:42, sp0ng3b0b wrote: > I am getting a quote for a new server. >=20 > I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 =20 > fiber gigabit card. >=20 > Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Opterons and FreeBSD =20 > 5.3? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 > Try sending this to the freebsd-amd64@ list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:03:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44A416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:03:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613EF43D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j0D13IKj029049 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:03:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:09:39 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> (from sp0ng3b0b@sbcglobal.net on Wed Jan 12 15:12:42 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1105578579l.15851l.1l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:03:21 -0000 On 01/12/05 15:12:42, sp0ng3b0b wrote: > I am getting a quote for a new server. >=20 > I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 =20 > fiber gigabit card. >=20 > Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Opterons and FreeBSD =20 > 5.3? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 > I forgot, amdzone.com runs FreeBSD on amd64 systems. Try posting in =20 the forum, there are several unix people that use smp machines in their =20 rendering farms. Chris Tom runs the site and you could ask him how it =20 is doing, but last time I read a post from him on it he loved it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:04:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13A116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:04:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D9843D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:04:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j0D14uCh017179 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:04:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:11:16 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E54C42.8010205@phreakout.net> In-Reply-To: <41E54C42.8010205@phreakout.net> (from bob@phreakout.net on Wed Jan 12 11:11:46 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1105578676l.15851l.2l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: SMP question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:05:00 -0000 On 01/12/05 11:11:46, Bob Ababurko wrote: > Hi all- >=20 > I am wondering if it is possible to specify which processor that a =20 > process will use, on a multi-processor box. Where can I find this =20 > information if it is possible. >=20 > Thanks, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 > Try asking the smp, hackers, and threads lists. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:11:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4EB16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D039D43D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0903.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 175D61C0016C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:11:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0903.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E77EA1C00161 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:11:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:11:27 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14810050413.20050113021127@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501122129.j0CLTSQo008877@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200501122129.j0CLTSQo008877@mp.cs.niu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:11:29 -0000 Scott Bennett writes: SB> I notice that the 5.2.1 boot messages refer to the second core as an SB> AP, which I'm guessing stands for "attached processor". If that SB> guess is correct, then it means that only the first core is able to SB> perform certain functions, and the AP core has to get the first core SB> to do those things for it when it needs them done. AP just stands for "application processor," from what I've seen. My impression from snooping in the code and looking elsewhere is that an AP is just a processor that is halted during system boot. The processor that executes the boot sequence is the bootstrap processor (BSP). Once the boot proceeds far enough to allow synchronization of multiple processors, the other processors (APs all) are started by the BSP. This doesn't necessarily mean that the BSP is special in any other way outside of startup or shutdown, and hopefully it is not, as that would defeat much of the conceptual purpose behind SMP. I know that on operating systems that insist on keeping one processor special for certain tasks, the speed of this processor often becomes a bottleneck on heavily loaded systems, as it tops out trying to handle all the "restricted" stuff for the other processors and itself. SB> What Intel claims is essentially that the HT-enabled CPUs allow SB> snappier responses in interactive processes when a CPU-bound process SB> is running. That I can believe. One of the great advantages to a multiple-processor system is that it's much less likely to bog down if a process decides to hog a processor (unless the process runs multiple threads). I think MP is more interesting for its ability to run completely independent processes or threads than it is for its ability to run multiple threads doing the same thing. Few applications require multiple high-speed processors churning through code all at once. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:18:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6582916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:18:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chaos.tatersalad.net (tatersalad.net [66.111.33.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010D643D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:18:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from static@tatersalad.net) Received: from staticbasement (c-24-118-247-85.mn.client2.attbi.com [24.118.247.85]) by chaos.tatersalad.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j0D1JfU5035115 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:19:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from static@tatersalad.net) Message-ID: <003101c4f90d$8471d440$9601a8c0@staticbasement> From: "Static" To: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:16:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: login.conf problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:18:31 -0000 Im trying to add a class that will limit processes and session limits, I = added this ircd:\ :tc=3Ddefault:\ :copyright=3D/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ :welcome=3D/etc/motd:\ :setenv=3DMAIL=3D/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=3DK:\ :path=3D~/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin:\ :manpath=3D/usr/share/man /usr/local/man:\ :nologin=3D/var/run/nologin:\ :ftp-chroot:\ :cputime=3D1h30m:\ :datasize=3D100M:\ :vmemoryuse=3D100M:\ :stacksize=3D2M:\ :memorylocked=3D4M:\ :memoryuse=3D8M:\ :filesize=3D100M:\ :coredumpsize=3D8M:\ :openfiles=3D24:\ :maxproc=3D32:\ :priority=3D0:\ :requirehome:\ :idletime=3D30m:\ :sessionlimit=3D2:\ :umask=3D002:\ :ignoretime@:\ Then I proceed to run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf" then I make a user with = the login class of ircd, but the session limits dont seem to work, was = curious if anyone out there knew how to fix that - Static From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:42:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F6716A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:42:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1436A43D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 48EF12400191 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:42:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 33A01240018D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:42:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:42:31 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1741746219.20050113024231@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Definitions of process states in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:42:33 -0000 Is there someplace where I can find definitions of the process states that I see in the STATE column of top? RUN and CPU1 are easy enough to figure out, but most of the rest are mysterious. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:45:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277AF16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:45:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out002.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A4243D48 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:45:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050113014539.XIKO12052.out002.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:45:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2ED11591 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37243-08 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8F97311589; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:45:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:45:30 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050113014530.GA33397@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:45:38 -0600 Subject: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:45:40 -0000 Hey folks. I'm trying to make a cruft killing run through my installed packages. What would make this a lot easier is if I could easily get a list of packages that are installed that are NOT required by other packages. I know that `pkg_info -aR` will give me all packages along with those that require it. Anyone know how best to get a list of packages without dependant packages installed? TIA Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Eagleson's Law: Any code of your own that you haven't looked at for six or more months, might as well have been written by someone else. (Eagleson is an optimist, the real number is more like three weeks.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:48:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50ACA16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:48:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-smtplb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.109.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BA543D5D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:48:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from BSD-Mail@nyc.rr.com) Received: from bsd.nyc.rr.com (69-201-151-233.nyc.rr.com [69.201.151.233]) j0D1mSbL020161 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:48:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:49:57 -0500 From: John Wilson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050112204957.1e897d6e.BSD-Mail@nyc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <41E49AC8.4010909@mac.com> References: <20050111210651.41838ab4.BSD-Mail@nyc.rr.com> <41E49AC8.4010909@mac.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0rc (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: USB CD-ROM installations. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:48:33 -0000 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:34:32 -0500 Chuck Swiger wrote: [...] > I've gotten the impression that USB2 under FreeBSD 5.3 will support 4x well > and be OK at 8x DVD burning speeds, although I've seen some reports of > problems (failing every third or forth burn) at high speeds, too. > > If it is possible, consider using Firewire instead: FreeBSD works very well > with FW/1394, and FW was designed for that kind of usage (specificly, > reserving dedicated I/O channels to guarantee bandwidth for realtime > multimedia tasks). [...] Well, I'm sort of limited in one specific way in this regard - it will be the only optical solution available to this particular machine, which unfortunately means that it would -have- to be USB in order to boot off of. As long as I can install FreeBSD 5.3 with this unit, all would be well. I've been looking at Macally external enclosures today and came across one variety that includes both a USB 2.0 and Firewire interface. This really proves to be the best way to go, I believe - if I need to boot off of a CD, slap it on the USB port, otherwise, it'll pretty much stay on the firewire port the remainder of the time for general use which will allow full speed operation. Thankfully, my Audigy 2 sound card has a firewire interface on it. Never thought I'd use it prior to this, but glad that it's there for use now. : ) Thank you for your time, Chuck, and your reply. It was most appreciated. - John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 01:53:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C1316A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:53:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7C743D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:53:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0D1rFtY031586 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:53:15 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0D1rFK8031583; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:53:15 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:53:15 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501130153.j0D1rFK8031583@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> (message from Anthony Atkielski on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:43:54 +0100) X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:53:20 -0000 > An AMD processor will also melt or catch fire if the CPU fan fails, > whereas an Intel processor won't. I found this out the hard way, and so Not always true, I had a P4 1.5 die on me for lack of fan. Now what was tha company selling a new box with no fan on the CPU is another story... Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 02:01:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2938F16A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:01:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAEB43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:01:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D0F3D51A03; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:01:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:01:01 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050113020101.GA50827@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050113014530.GA33397@keyslapper.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050113014530.GA33397@keyslapper.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:01:04 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:45:30PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Hey folks. I'm trying to make a cruft killing run through my > installed packages. >=20 > What would make this a lot easier is if I could easily get a list of > packages that are installed that are NOT required by other packages. >=20 > I know that `pkg_info -aR` will give me all packages along with those > that require it. Anyone know how best to get a list of packages > without dependant packages installed? pkg_cutleaves Kris --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5dZcWry0BWjoQKURAl1sAKDyJutsZdVSPMBTczi61p8exT1huQCg3jQV xCeJGewzTgHL3xIfideYBtQ= =R/Ik -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 02:15:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF5916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6A643D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:15:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0912.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1DD461C005E7 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:15:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0912.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 005CC1C005E2 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:15:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:15:30 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <306548769.20050113031530@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501130153.j0D1rFK8031583@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> (message from Anthony Atkielski on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:43:54 +0100) <200501130153.j0D1rFK8031583@mail.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:15:32 -0000 Olivier Nicole writes: ON> Not always true, I had a P4 1.5 die on me for lack of fan. I understood that all recent Intel processors will first slow the clock and then halt completely if the die temperature rises too much, but there may be exceptions (or perhaps some processors run so hot that they will overheat without a fan even in the stopped state). Did it start up when you replaced the fan, or was it gone for good? In the case of my AMD processor, it reached a temperature of at least 110° C and still ran, but shortly thereafter a problem with memory management developed and worsened rapidly until the processor was completely dead. ON> Now what was tha company selling a new box with no fan on the CPU is ON> another story... I thought all the boxed P4 processors came with their own fan, so there should never be a case in which a PC is sold with a P4 but no CPU fan. In any case, now that I've decided to build my own servers from now on, there should be far fewer unpleasant surprises. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 02:20:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41BE16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:20:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ohm.ec.kuas.edu.tw (ec7.ec.kuas.edu.tw [140.127.112.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22D543D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 288137@ohm.ec.kuas.edu.tw) Received: from ohm.ec.kuas.edu.tw (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ohm.ec.kuas.edu.tw (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0D2JuYj028562 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:19:56 +0800 From: "288137" <288137@ohm.ec.kuas.edu.tw> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:19:56 +0800 Message-Id: <20050113021842.M23303@ohm.ec.kuas.edu.tw> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040525 X-OriginatingIP: 163.29.241.8 (288137) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Subject: problem with the last login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: 288137@ohm.ec.kuas.edu.tw List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:20:11 -0000 Guys! I¡¦ve got some problems with motd as following description: After logging in system, messages: last login¡Bcopyright¡Bos version¡Bmotd will show on the screen in sequence. According to the man page for motd, use touch ~/.hushlogin can suppress those messages besides the last login part. --------------------------- 1.So I just want to know how to suppress the last login part? --------------------------- Another question is I also try to make it off through the way adding update_motd=¡¨NO¡¨ to the file /etc/rc.conf. But it doesn¡¦t work! ---------------------------- 2.Can anyone tell me does this way still work on my system FreeBSD 5.1- release? Thanks a lot! fancalenno Hsiau From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 02:30:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD2716A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:30:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5B143D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from espinafre@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so553963wri for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:30:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=KJnC344MP7iw1/dXHqXoa3GL9cjxbYdX06iqpFUGS7T5dIxRydowEIGm4tGrbACH1yLQ2/kcYqXziiPX4aZOLmATmSqD8LHcuaoGaC+qljJScAcKc/dWvZfdfbS0+ksl+XsVfM2pTC8EVy26QstvUQxkyFae+duVxzN/oHhD+Ho= Received: by 10.54.27.49 with SMTP id a49mr116088wra; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.33 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:30:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5ef8c2f005011218306578a5d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:30:27 -0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_de_Paula?= To: Christopher Menzel In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: nVidia 6800 quick-and-dirty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_de_Paula?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:30:30 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:11:04 -0600, Christopher Menzel w= rote: > Hi, you wrote: >=20 > > I've just bought a GeForce 6800 card, and it worked wonderfully > > with the nvidia-driver port. >=20 > I, by contrast, am pulling my hair out trying to get this card/driver > combination to work (under FreeBSD 5.3). Would you mind sending me > (the relevant parts of) your xorg.conf file? >=20 > Thanks very much. >=20 > -chris >=20 >=20 Sure. There you go: =3D=3D=3D xorg.conf (relevant sections) =3D=3D=3D Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension # SubSection "extmod" # Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension # EndSubSection Load "type1" Load "speedo" Load "freetype" Load "xtt" # Load "dri" Load "bitmap" Load "extmod" Load "glx" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "nVidia GeForce 6800" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA" BoardName "GeForce 6800" Option "NvAGP" "3" Option "DRI" EndSection =3D=3D=3D end of relevant xorg.conf sections =3D=3D=3D Now, I compiled my kernel with agp.o as module (in opposition to compiled into the kernel); I commented out the line device agp from my kernel config file, and my /boot/loader.conf is as follows: =3D=3D=3D /boot/loader.conf =3D=3D=3D linux_load=3D"YES" agp_load=3D"YES" nvidia_load=3D"YES" =3D=3D=3D end of /boot/loader.conf =3D=3D=3D That's it. startx, and you should see the nvidia logo before your window manager starts. Oh, I don't use a graphical login manager, perhaps that is causing problem.= .. Good luck, Jos=E9 de Paula From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 02:54:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F0A16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:54:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF3A43D5A for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpoland@polands.org) Received: from eden.polands.org (wap.polands.org [172.16.1.40]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0D2s9RZ023666 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:54:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@polands.org) Received: from eden.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eden.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0D2s2cu001555 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:54:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@eden.polands.org) Received: (from dpoland@localhost) by eden.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0D2s2Yc001554 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:54:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:54:02 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:54:13 -0000 Hello, I'm having a problem with gmirror. It would seem that I cannot add my first disk to the mirror after booting off the second drive. My current status is a degraded mirror and I cannot see any of the partitions on disk one. For a guide, I'm using the excellent instructions at: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ My system has identical WD 80GB SATA drives (ad4 and ad6). I've followed the steps in the document that are labeled: "GEOM mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible" # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 bs=512 count=79 # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad6 # gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1 # gmirror load # bsdlabel -w -B /dev/mirror/gm0s1 # bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1 # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1a # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt # dump -L -0 -f- / | (cd /mnt; restore -r -v -f-) # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1d # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /mnt/var # dump -L -0 -f- /var | (cd /mnt/var; restore -r -v -f-) # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1e # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /mnt/tmp # dump -L -0 -f- /tmp | (cd /mnt/tmp; restore -r -v -f-) # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /mnt/usr # dump -L -0 -f- /usr | (cd /mnt/usr; restore -r -v -f-) # cp -p /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.orig # sed -e 's/dev\/ad4s1/dev\/mirror\/gm0s1/g' >/mnt/etc/rc.conf # echo 'geom_mirror_load="YES"' >>/mnt/boot/loader.conf # echo "1:ad(6,a)/boot/loader" >/boot.config # shutdown -r now # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 # gmirror configure -a gm0s1 # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 At this point I see... "Unknown provider ad4s1" A gmirror list reveals: Geom name: mirror State: DEGRADED Components: 2 Balance: load Slice: 2048 Flags: NONE SyncID: 2 ID: 4216140117 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/mirror Mediasize: 80026361344 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: ad4 Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE SyncID: 2 ID: 3073402045 Geom name: mirror.sync Geom name: gm0s1 State: COMPLETE Components: 1 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE SyncID: 1 ID: 3205827760 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1 Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ad6 Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e2 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY SyncID: 1 ID: 1606771156 Geom name: gm0s1.sync Here's a snippet of /var/log/messages after the first reboot: Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1 created (id=3205827760). Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 detected. Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 activated. Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider mirror/gm0s1 launched. Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror created (id=4216140117). Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 detected. Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Force device mirror start due to timeout. Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot update metadata on disk ad4 (error=1). Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 activated. Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider mirror/mirror launched. Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot update metadata on disk ad4 (error=1). Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 disconnected. Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider mirror/mirror destroyed. Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror destroyed. Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Subsequent reboots reveal: Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror created (id=4216140117). Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 detected. Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1 created (id=3205827760). Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 detected. Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 activated. Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider mirror/gm0s1 launched. Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Force device mirror start due to timeout. Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 activated. Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider mirror/mirror launched. Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a Here's my bsdlabels, if that helps: webhost02# bsdlabel /dev/mirror/gm0s1 # /dev/mirror/gm0s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 4142160 524288 swap c: 156301424 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 16777216 4666448 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 e: 2097152 21443664 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 f: 132755506 23540816 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 webhost02# bsdlabel /dev/ad6 # /dev/ad6: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 4142160 524288 swap c: 156301424 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 16777216 4666448 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 e: 2097152 21443664 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 f: 132755506 23540816 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities webhost02# bsdlabel /dev/ad4 bsdlabel: /dev/ad4: no valid label found Thanks for your help! -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 02:57:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C8116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:57:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (levanto.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BACB43D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:57:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from bofh.spyderweb.com.au (219-90-233-62.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.233.62]) by levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7325AFF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:25:30 +1030 (CST) Received: from spyderweb.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.spyderweb.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0D2uMVu064036 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:26:23 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:26:22 +1030 From: Tim Aslat To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Message-ID: <20050113132622.591be61d@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> Organization: Spyderweb Consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Remote hardware identification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:57:22 -0000 Hi All, I have a remote server which I inherited which I have no real specifications for except the basic dmesg output. This machine needs more RAM and rather than buying 5 sticks of varying types for the job, is there some way to identify the type of ram needed? All I know is that it's a P4 class machine with DDR ram, I'm just not sure of the speed. Or is it possible to mix'n'match the ram speeds? Thinks in advance Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 03:16:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00D716A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:16:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kende.com (ns1.kende.com [66.17.131.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33C3D43D48 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:16:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andras@kende.com) Received: (qmail 30284 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jan 2005 03:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a) (24.1.129.219) by ns1.kende.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 03:17:10 -0000 From: "Andras Kende" To: "'Tim Aslat'" , Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:17:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20050113132622.591be61d@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcT5G6+sA7h2sel8TaOEp2IlKlv4SQAAoFcA Message-Id: <20050113031659.33C3D43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: Remote hardware identification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:16:59 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tim Aslat Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Remote hardware identification Hi All, I have a remote server which I inherited which I have no real specifications for except the basic dmesg output. This machine needs more RAM and rather than buying 5 sticks of varying types for the job, is there some way to identify the type of ram needed? All I know is that it's a P4 class machine with DDR ram, I'm just not sure of the speed. Or is it possible to mix'n'match the ram speeds? Thinks in advance Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Dear Tim, I would get a brand name DDR400 PC3200 since its backward compatible with lower speeds (PC2100 PC2700), unless it's more highend server motherboard with ECC or Registered memory... Andras Kende http://www.kende.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 03:22:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2135A16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:22:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au (cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCEB43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:22:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from bofh.spyderweb.com.au (219-90-233-62.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.233.62]) by cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72822986BC for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:57:08 +1030 (CST) Received: from spyderweb.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.spyderweb.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0D3M1V0065052 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:52:04 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:52:01 +1030 From: Tim Aslat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113135201.3cfbbde1@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> Organization: Spyderweb Consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Remote hardware identification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:22:59 -0000 In the immortal words of "Andras Kende" ... > I would get a brand name DDR400 PC3200 since its backward compatible > with lower speeds (PC2100 PC2700), unless it's more highend server > motherboard with ECC or Registered memory... Thanks for the tip. Its not a high-powered server, it's just an hour away and I don't want to look like an idiot showing up with the wrong kind of RAM. Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 03:30:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8B316A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:30:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palrel12.hp.com (palrel12.hp.com [156.153.255.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1443843D5A for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:30:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thad.butterworth@hp.com) Received: from cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.92.1.72]) by palrel12.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6B741A824 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) by cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:30:09 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:30:18 -0700 Message-ID: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601ED2BA2@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Freebsd 5.3 Performance Thread-Index: AcT5CR+YajxfeoYSTSSWlYLkOZwkwQAFXOXQ From: "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 03:30:09.0693 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F0DF4D0:01C4F920] Subject: RE: Freebsd 5.3 Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:30:10 -0000 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd->questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chris >Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:44 PM >Cc: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance > >Tm4528@aol.com wrote: >> Mr Watson, >>=20 >> As you are listed as the leader of the FreeBSD foundation, and you seem to be=20 >> the >> only one willing to admit that FreeBSD 5.3 is not yet up to the performance=20 >> of 4.x,=20 >> doesn't in concern you that: >>=20 >> 1) Freebsd 4.x is not being supported as a production O/S, and the "support"=20 >> is >> ending with 4.11 before 5.x is ready performance-wise? >> 2) FreeBSD 4.x doesn't seem to work well with the 7520/5 chipsets, which are >> required to run the latest Intel XEON CPUs (Dell's most powerful servers, for=20 >> example,=20 >> are based on the 7520). A long-standing PR has been largely ignored >> 3) None of your "developers", according to Ted M, have ever "heard of" Intel's >> latest and most powerful chipsets. >> 4) no one in your "organization" seems to care about 1, 2 or 3 >>=20 >> FreeBSD has fallen into a performance "hole" of sorts, in that the fastest=20 >> version >> doesnt run on the fastest Motherboards. Its easily correctable, by simply=20 >> dedicating >> resources for a day or 2 to find out whats wrong with the 7520 support. I'd=20 >> like to hear=20 >> why you don't think its worthwhile, as a primary goal, to make certain that=20 >> the >> fastest version of the product works well on the fastest available=20 >> motherboards.=20 > >Hahahaha - are we smelling a troll?! > >--=20 >Best regards, >Chris > >I finally got it all together ... >but I forgot where I put it. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Maybe the troll could be persuaded to work on a fix for the alleged problems that it's seeing. It would be far more productive and everyone, I'm sure would be much happier.=20 BTW, I ran across the troll's name and another email address (probably one that doesn't change every 45 days) on a financial forum I was perusing. For a brief moment I was severely tempted to sign the troll up for every spam list that I could Google. Then my conscience kicked in and I remembered that it wouldn't be the right thing to do. Just think of the things I could have accomplished if my parents hadn't raised me with morals. Oh well, time to update my email filters again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 03:32:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6696B16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:32:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE4C43D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:32:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.68.20]) by mta13.adelphia.netESMTP <20050113033245.ISKN5807.mta13.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:32:45 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 96B10B4F8; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:32:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:32:35 -0500 From: Parv To: Christer Solskogen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113033235.GA3136@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Christer Solskogen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050106142257.GA30323@math.jussieu.fr> <41DD8242.8090207@scii.nl> <20050109194634.GA275@holestein.holy.cow> <20050109220353.GB275@holestein.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050109220353.GB275@holestein.holy.cow> Subject: Re: Create tgz packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:32:47 -0000 in message <20050109220353.GB275@holestein.holy.cow>, wrote Parv thusly... > > find /var/db/pkg -mindepth 1 -type d \ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > | while read port; do pkg_create -b $(basename "$port"); done I made a gross mistake in my above reply related to "-mindepth" option of find(1). I wanted to find all the directories in /var/db/pkg w/o recursion in the directories found. From find(1) ... -mindepth n Always true; do not apply any tests or actions at levels less than n. If any -mindepth primary is specified, it applies to the entire expression even if it would not normally be evaluated. -mindepth 1 processes all but the command line arguments. If there happened to be a sub-directory -- not the case right now -- in one of the ports, then it too would have been passed to the pkg_create(1) command given the quoted text above. Same problem exits in my previous reply in this thread. "-mindepth" needs to be changed to "-maxdepth", as in ... find /var/db/pkg -maxdepth 1 -type d \ | while read port; do pkg_create -b $(basename "$port"); done - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 04:17:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5B416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:17:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478FE43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:17:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so137164rna for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:17:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id; b=mqna5DqpauGCV5AZVAb+68ktbWKtiibn+2OxEWGRF6Gth/gX7v3v31xM9q9Ucl3yEBg8Ajs9erWj7JMnQe3bBHbItyAjWyiKcJfFFhTTgpIl+WV9Drfa7xN2iFV2PZ4XDHwc9GSEApbvfl1El2OKYrm1W5K0Vn8j+7+XKtjNtJ8= Received: by 10.38.24.23 with SMTP id 23mr36401rnx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Firebox ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 74sm4477rnb.2005.01.12.20.17.48; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:17:49 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:47:38 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C4F954.EA1FFAF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> Thread-Index: AcT5CSHIXoNQiR8bQeuKCGEH2alEbQAGvHgg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: <41e5f66d.7993a979.5903.0077@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:17:50 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C4F954.EA1FFAF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Atkielski > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:14 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? > > Andrea Venturoli writes: > > Where these computations in which all threads were doing pretty much the > same thing? And was it floating-point? (Doesn't the processor have > just one FPU, or something like that?) Yes Dual cored CPUs have a single FPU. > > An AMD processor will also melt or catch fire if the CPU fan fails, > whereas an Intel processor won't. I found this out the hard way, and so > henceforth I'll be installing Intel processors. The cost savings one > gets from buying AMD isn't enough to pay for a new motherboard or PC. This *used* to be true. I am using a AMD64 3000+ and the idle temperature is 28C. The room temp is around 12-14C. After asking this kid to crunch FPs for over 16 hrs, the processor temperature rose to only 38C. I am not using any special cooling gears, just the stock heatsink fan combo that came with the box pack. 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(authenticated bits=0)j0D4PRKk089513; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:25:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <200501121719.j0CHJjx1018275@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200501121719.j0CHJjx1018275@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-581574426" Message-Id: <1C2F94AC-651B-11D9-A36B-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:25:09 -0600 To: Martin McCormick X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UNIX-Based VPN Applications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:25:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-581574426 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 12, 2005, at 11:19 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I have been asked as to whether there are any VPN applications > that can run on UNIX clients using Linux, FreeBSD, and MacOS. I think > the general idea is that they could tunnel in from outside of our > campus and receive an IP number on our network. > > There would probably be a UNIX server on the campus end of the network > to accept these connections. > > Those of us who work here or are students can set up a UNIX > box on campus and use ssh in to it from anywhere. What I am asking > about is whether there is a VPN application that UNIX-users in general > can register with to have a presence on our network. > > Thank you very much. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group I've had a lot of luck with mpd. Give that a try... HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-581574426 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHl+CYACgkQRAAY9knOW+pSogCfTUqY7yziVaNSHh6cnezRDWM/ ijwAnR+6hYKU+Sh7F2MUcbf39zXExFH8 =B1DW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-581574426-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 04:29:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7066516A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:29:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53EC43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:29:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0D4Tv4F089671; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:29:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <1534551b05011215032348e616@mail.gmail.com> References: <1534551b05011215032348e616@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-581845462" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:29:40 -0600 To: Gadi Golan X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache Log Rotation & Statistics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:29:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-581845462 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Gadi Golan wrote: > Hi, > What I am looking for here is some advice on what will be the best > ways to acomplish what I have in mind. What I hope to acomplish > follows, so any thoughts on how to do it, or if it is complex or > impossible would be very helpful. > > I have Apache 2.x running with a collection of virtual hosts, each > logging to their own access.log file. I want to offer log statistics > to all of my virtual hosts on an individual basis. I want them to be > able to go to say log.theirdomain.com or www.theirdomain.com/log and > be able to view the statistics for their site from day x, week y, > month z, year k, whatever. Ideally these logs will be stored > compressed and in a directory specific to their virtual domain. > > I am sorry if I am not explaining this 100%, please feel free to ask > me to clarify myself. > > Thanks much, > > Gadi Golan I would recommend webalizer in the ports. If you read through the documentation, you specify the logfile and destination of each run, so you could have multiple configurations and cron jobs to compute the stats for you. Let me know if you have any more questions. IIRC, you can see an example at www.webalizer.org. HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-581845462 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHl+TUACgkQRAAY9knOW+r5IACgj9LG5NXhVzaGwMzK6mnrEsW4 crEAnjiam0Bm6BiI2HYoWm6ihB+8G67n =FZnR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-581845462-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 04:42:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFF916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:42:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5DB43D60 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:42:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7CBB81C001D4 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5123B1C001D3 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:49 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050113044249332.5123B1C001D3@mwinf0902.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:48 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1639395851.20050113054248@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41e5f66d.7993a979.5903.0077@smtp.gmail.com> References: <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> <41e5f66d.7993a979.5903.0077@smtp.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:42:51 -0000 Subhro writes: S> This *used* to be true. I am using a AMD64 3000+ and the idle S> temperature is 28C. The room temp is around 12-14C. After asking this S> kid to crunch FPs for over 16 hrs, the processor temperature rose to S> only 38C. I am not using any special cooling gears, just the stock S> heatsink fan combo that came with the box pack. The case temperature on my FreeBSD server runs at about 36° C with a room temperature of 25° C, and the 3.0 GHz Intel P4 processor is at about 44° and very nearly idle (0.5% busy). After running the processor at 100% for a few minutes, it gets up to 51° (I haven't tried the experiment beyond that, and the system is never 100% under normal conditions). There are seven fans (I'm not taking any chances): two that blow into the case over the disk drives, one that blows down onto the motherboard (directly over the CPU), and three that blow through and out of the power supply--plus the P4 CPU fan. They draw air through filters so they don't create that much movement, but I like the redundancy. My desktop running WinXP has an AMD Athlon 1800-something. The processor runs at about 59° and the case is at 29°; this case has only three fans, one in the PS, on inward fan on the case, and a tiny CPU fan over the processor. The arrangement of the MB is such that the CPU doesn't have a very clear airflow over it. The CPU fan has been replaced twice, as the first fans were sleeve bearings that failed almost immediately (I installed my own ball-bearing fan after that). The case fan was my own addition. On one occasion the CPU froze after the fan failed, but it did not seem to break. I don't know if this model of processor includes any protections. It would be nice if someone would design processors that did not require active cooling, as the need for a CPU fan to keep the system from self-destructing is a major weak point for the hardware. Thank goodness modern operating systems idle the processor when it's not in use. I shudder to think what it would be like under old versions of Windows (including Win9x) that just looped when idle. FreeBSD runs cool as a cucumber, even though it handles all my Web and mail and DNS and NTP traffic. Which reminds me: I'm still looking for a way to monitor system temperature at securelevel=3 on my FreeBSD system, so suggestions are welcome. Healthd is fine but it won't work at securelevel=3. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 05:51:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A87B16A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:51:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2495343D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:51:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 90378 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 05:51:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.74) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 05:51:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 48674 invoked by uid 1008); 13 Jan 2005 05:51:14 -0000 Received: from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.70. Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.76):. Processed in 0.01797 secs); 13 Jan 2005 05:51:14 -0000 Received: from smtp1.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.76) by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 05:51:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 25219 invoked by uid 508); 13 Jan 2005 05:51:14 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.168] (HELO bikrant.org.np) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 05:51:13 -0000 (Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:36:13 +0545) From: Bikrant Neupane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:36:11 +0545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501131136.11550.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; -4.9 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 Subject: Default LQR timeout period X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:51:23 -0000 Hi We have pppoe server running on FreeBSD 4.9 and 90% of our wireless clients are using MS Windows OS to access the service. I have noticed that when ever there is some problem in the link ( due to AP or SM reboot, switch reboot etc etc ) the pppoe connection closes. I have also noticed that the MS Windows client closes connection at 40-45 seconds after the link is down. I tried to increase default LQR timeout period at Server by using set lqrtimeout to some higher values. That did affected the serverside ppp process but the MS client still disconnected at 40-45 seconds. :( I prefer to set the timeout period somewhere between 120-150 seconds so that even if there is problem in the link the client doesn't get the disconnect notice and have to reconnect again and the client and servers are able to continue same session. Is there any way to control the default LQR timeout period of the Client from the Server end?? My question is more related with ms windows still I am asking this question to freebsd group so that I can solve the problem from the server end ;) regards, Bikrant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 05:51:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFC116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:51:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web15504.mail.cnb.yahoo.com (web15504.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.165.102.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CEC443D3F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:51:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freehomesp@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20050113055151.14259.qmail@web15504.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Received: from [219.243.36.231] by web15504.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:51:51 CST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:51:51 +0800 (CST) From: Peng Shan To: freebsdmailinglist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-635039633-1105595511=:9511" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: A question occured when installing FreeBSD5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:51:53 -0000 --0-635039633-1105595511=:9511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline ×¢£ºÒѸ½¼Óת·¢Óʼþ¡£ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? ×¢²áÊÀ½çÒ»Á÷Æ·ÖʵÄÑÅ»¢Ãâ·ÑµçÓÊ http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/1g/*http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/ --0-635039633-1105595511=:9511 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [219.243.36.231] by web15509.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:47:16 CST Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:47:16 +0800 (CST) From: Peng Shan Subject: Re: A question occured when installing FreeBSD5.3 To: freebsdmailinglist In-Reply-To: <447jmkm4s6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-386082957-1105505236=:1105" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 980 --0-386082957-1105505236=:1105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "The boot menu offers you the option of booting without ACPI. That should get your system to boot." Sorry,I forget to tell that this prompt occur when I use the 6 boot item and input "boot -v". Almost all the item included boot with ACPI disabled,every time booting stopped with the screen displaying "ad0:38154MB[77520/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0:CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 " And there are other prompt with other booting items: unknown: cannot assign resources(ports) unknown:cannot assign resources(irq) unknown:cannot assign resources(ports fdc0:cannot allocate I/O port 6 ports configured irq 4 not in the bitmap of probed irqs 0 Those two error prompts occured before the first error. Is there anyone know the problem?? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? ×¢²áÊÀ½çÒ»Á÷Æ·ÖʵÄÑÅ»¢Ãâ·ÑµçÓÊ --0-386082957-1105505236=:1105 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" "The boot menu offers you the option of booting without ACPI. That should get your system to boot." Sorry,I forget to tell that this prompt occur when I use the 6 boot item and input "boot -v". Almost all the item included boot with ACPI disabled,every time booting stopped with the screen displaying "ad0:38154MB[77520/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0:CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 " And there are other prompt with other booting items: unknown: cannot assign resources(ports) unknown:cannot assign resources(irq) unknown:cannot assign resources(ports fdc0:cannot allocate I/O port 6 ports configured irq 4 not in the bitmap of probed irqs 0 Those two error prompts occured before the first error. Is there anyone know the problem?? _________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? [1]×¢²áÊÀ½çÒ»Á÷Æ·ÖʵÄÑÅ»¢Ãâ·ÑµçÓÊ References 1. http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/1g/*http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/ --0-386082957-1105505236=:1105-- --0-635039633-1105595511=:9511-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 05:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433BC16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:53:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (cs.earlham.edu [159.28.230.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B311243D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:53:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (localhost.cs.earlham.edu [127.0.0.1]) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0D5rXX2095137 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:53:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: (from skylar@localhost) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) id j0D5rXHV095136 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:53:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.cs.earlham.edu: skylar set sender to skylar@quark.cs.earlham.edu using -f Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:53:33 -0500 From: Skylar Thompson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113055333.GA95020@quark.cs.earlham.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Sender: "Skylar Thompson" X-Accept-Primary-Language: en X-Accept-Secondary-Language: es SMTP-Mailing-Host: quark.cs.earlham.edu X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE X-Uptime: 12:50AM up 27 days, 20:58, 19 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.09, 0.12 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.3 (2004 June 7, compiled Aug 26 2004 10:37:04) Subject: Re: Which OS should we use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Skylar Thompson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:53:36 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 03:22:15PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > We're getting ready to create some new servers from scratch=20 > (format/install). We've been using 4.9 and 4.10 for a while now with no= =20 > problems. We've got one 5.3 box setup for test purposes. >=20 > On this list I have seen comments about instability issues in 5.3. These= =20 > servers need to be stable. Should we install 4.10/11? Or move up to 5.3? I'm not sure about 5.3, but our tape backup server has been rock solid on 5.2.1 for months. We use Vinum to do software RAID on our holding disk, and that hasn't hiccuped at all. --=20 -- Skylar Thompson (skylar@cs.earlham.edu) -- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/ --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5gzdsc4yyULgN4YRAtrjAJ9nLL2Z8dcFIxfRLcvuKuwwAIKsHACcD0bt yn18fGe8yRDpUzgp6itrNPI= =pfx1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 06:10:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FA416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EF243D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 848AA14BBFB; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65E514BB2C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:10:09 +0100 (CET) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0D6A9iN054624 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:10:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:10:09 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113061009.GB50808@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> <41E58E53.7060606@netfence.it> <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pastinakel.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: SINECTIS: pastinakel.tue.nl 1114; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:10:14 -0000 --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable off-topic, but... On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:43:54AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > AV> BTW, an old AMD 2000 XP+ would in any case almost outperform a P4 3GH= z, > AV> but that's another story. >=20 > An AMD processor will also melt or catch fire if the CPU fan fails, > whereas an Intel processor won't. I found this out the hard way, and so > henceforth I'll be installing Intel processors. The cost savings one > gets from buying AMD isn't enough to pay for a new motherboard or PC. This also depends on your motherboard having overheat protection (ie shuts itself down when the CPU temperature goes too high). My ASUS A7N8X calls this feature 'C.O.P.' -- CPU overheating protection. Choose your motherboard wisely and you'll avoid this problem. --Stijn --=20 It's harder to read code than to write it. -- Joel Spolsky, http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5hDBY3r/tLQmfWcRAkoJAKCWyfrIzZNuu6X7JymFKxgnDEMOrACfXd+a 9clPbEPIW9z8SN6CuruPRXQ= =7aKj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 06:15:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6EB16A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:15:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail.uoi.gr (webmail.uoi.gr [195.130.120.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1972F43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:15:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr) Received: from webmail.uoi.gr (localhost [127.0.0.1])j0D6F5NP017855 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:15:06 +0200 Received: (from wwwrun@localhost) by webmail.uoi.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0D6F5sG017854 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:15:05 +0200 Received: from 212-70-197-172.rod.dialup.tee.gr (212-70-197-172.rod.dialup.tee.gr [212.70.197.172]) by webmail.uoi.gr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:15:05 +0200 Message-ID: <1105596905.41e611e9c6392@webmail.uoi.gr> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:15:05 +0200 From: dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050113041759.0D3DD16A50D@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050113041759.0D3DD16A50D@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 212.70.197.172 Subject: modem in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:15:10 -0000 Dear List, Is there somebody who has succesfully installed a SoftModem in FreeBSD(5.3 or 4.10)? thanks! D.K. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 06:38:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0B316A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:38:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D536043D45; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:38:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0D6btj70869; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bikrant Neupane" , , Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:55 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <200501131136.11550.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> Subject: RE: Default LQR timeout period X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:38:07 -0000 Open up your registry editor and go to HEKY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Modem\XXXX\Set tings where XXXX is the number of your modem (example: 0001). On the right pane search for a string value named InactivityTimeout. Enter the new timeout rate in minutes. For example enter 30 for a 30 minutes timeout. From: http://www.activewin.com/tips/reg/connect_1.shtml Time it took me to find this - 45 seconds. It took you longer to post the request than to type it into a search engine. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > Bikrant Neupane > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:51 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-net@freebsd.org > Subject: Default LQR timeout period > > > Hi > > We have pppoe server running on FreeBSD 4.9 and 90% of our > wireless clients > are using MS Windows OS to access the service. I have noticed > that when ever > there is some problem in the link ( due to AP or SM reboot, > switch reboot etc > etc ) the pppoe connection closes. I have also noticed that > the MS Windows > client closes connection at 40-45 seconds after the link is > down. I tried to > increase default LQR timeout period at Server by using set > lqrtimeout to some > higher values. That did affected the serverside ppp process > but the MS client > still disconnected at 40-45 seconds. :( > > I prefer to set the timeout period somewhere between 120-150 > seconds so that > even if there is problem in the link the client doesn't get > the disconnect > notice and have to reconnect again and the client and servers > are able to > continue same session. > > Is there any way to control the default LQR timeout period of > the Client from > the Server end?? > > My question is more related with ms windows still I am asking > this question to > freebsd group so that I can solve the problem from the server end ;) > > regards, > Bikrant > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 06:38:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9496016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:38:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.tjc.ru (ns.tjc.ru [212.30.133.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106FE43D39 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:38:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvg_lab@mail.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.tjc.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADACFBDC3C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:39:03 +0300 (MSK) Received: from ns.tjc.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns.tjc.ru [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25712-08 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:38:57 +0300 (MSK) Received: from IT1 (unknown [192.168.200.53]) by ns.tjc.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:38:54 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:38:02 +0300 From: Vyacheslav Druzhinin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Organization: DVG_Lab X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1673234981.20050113093802@mail.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tjcollection.ru Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 and some stranges logging in /var/log/messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vyacheslav Druzhinin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:38:23 -0000 Hello freebsd-questions, I use FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4, builded with ipfw support options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPDIVERT some times I see some strange messages in /var/log/messages, like this: ------ cut -------- Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: vJan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: ipfw: 65100 Deny TCP 212.30.133.170:3564 212.30.133.146:349 out via xl1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 4<6:330 11ou8>tJ Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: :0 v Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 1:30 ns kernel: ipfw: 65100 Deny TCP 212.30.133.170:3565 212.30.133.146:350 out via xl1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: :3<37 ou1t 1v8i>a J Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: a:x Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: l<1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 118>01:30 ns kernel: ipfw: 65100 Deny TCP 212.30.133.170:3572 212.30.133.146:357 out via xl1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 3<38 ou1t1 8>vJ Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: :i Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: a< xl1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 118>01:30 ns kernel: ipfw: 65100 Deny TCP 212.30.133.170:3573 212.30.133.146:358 out via xl1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 2.<30.133.1701:130>5 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 34 212.3 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 0<.133.14116:0>316 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 51<00 D1e1n8>y9 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: < out v11ia0 >xl Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: T31 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: < Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 110>0.133.170:3560 212.30.133.146:345 out via xl1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: <1<10>ip1f1w8>: Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 10 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 5: Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 0<1:30 ns11 k0>e1r Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 0<0 Den11y 8T>n Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: C Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: P< 212.130.181>36 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 5<100 D11e0n>y3 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: .1<70:351691 821> 2T Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 0 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: <.30.111383.>14.1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: <33.17110:03>546: Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: <354 ou11t 8vi>a 2 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: <212.30.11130>3 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: .146:327 out via xl1 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: 57<6 212.3101.8>1J Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: : Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: <33.14116:8>30 Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: <1:30 n11s 0>k Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: <61 ou1t1 8>ve Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: f Jan 12 10:01:30 ns kernel: >=--> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 06:44:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAFF16A4CE for ; 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Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:44:26 +1100 From: Murray Taylor To: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" In-Reply-To: <41E5B2AD.9000702@schmittnet.com> References: <41E5B2AD.9000702@schmittnet.com> Organization: Bytecraft Systems Message-Id: <1105598665.6683.642.camel@wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:44:26 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 06:44:26.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[53126E40:01C4F93B] Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Defining MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mtaylor@bytecraft.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:44:32 -0000 On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 10:28, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote: > I'm trying to define some arguments in pkgtools.conf to use in a > portinstall of moregroupware (deskutils/moregroupware). I haven't used > pkgtools.conf before, and I'm apparently doing something wrong. I'm > doing this under FBSD 4.9. > > In the Makefile, there is a section that states: > > > .if defined(WITH_APACHE2) > RUN_DEPENDS=${LOCALBASE}/libexec/apache2/libphp4.so:${PORTSDIR}/www/mod_php4 > .else > RUN_DEPENDS=${LOCALBASE}/libexec/apache/libphp4.so:${PORTSDIR}/www/mod_php4 > .endif > > .if defined(WITH_MODULES) > DISTFILES+=${PORTNAME}-modules-insecure-${PORTVERSION}${EXTRACT_SUFX} > PLIST_SUB+=MODULES="" > .else > PLIST_SUB+=MODULES="@comment " > .endif > > > (note I removed some spaces to make wrapping fit) > > So, in the pkgtools.conf file, I added: > > MAKE_ARGS = { > 'deskutils/moregroupware' => 'WITH_APACHE2 WITH_MODULES' > } > > > But, when I execute portupgrade moregroupware, I receive a message that > states: > > make: don't know how to make WITH_APACHE2. Stop > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.***MAKE_ARGS = { > 'deskutils/moregroupware' => '-DWITH_APACHE2 WITH_MODULES', > } Need t oput in the -D make option and also a trailing comma .. seems odd and I dont think it really matters (the comma), but then its in place for the next make option... from my pkgtools.conf MAKE_ARGS = { 'evolution' => '-DWITH_LDAP', 'jdk14' => '-DWITH_NATIVE_THREADS', 'kde*' => '-DWITHOUT_ARTSWRAPPER -DWITH_OPTIONAL_DEPENDS', 'ghostscript-gnu*' => 'A4=YES' , } if it is a make option that takes a value -- no -D cheers mjt -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer --------------------------------- Bytecraft Systems & Entertainment P: +61 3 8710 2555 F: +61 3 8710 2599 D: +61 3 9238 4275 M: +61 417 319 256 E: murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 07:23:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE8816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:23:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFD043D39 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:23:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id j0D7NHrx024643; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:23:19 +0200 Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 13 Jan 05 09:23:20 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 13 Jan 05 09:23:07 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (192.168.1.2) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 13 Jan 05 09:23:06 +0300 Message-ID: <41E621DA.4080102@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:23:06 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Kinkade References: <41E58A4E.9000105@raad.tartu.ee> <20050112210359.GN3639@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> In-Reply-To: <20050112210359.GN3639@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't figure out an one-liner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:23:22 -0000 Nathan Kinkade wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:36:30PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: >=20 >>I have a directory structure like this >> >>/home >> /joe >> /peter >> /bill >> ... etc >> >>I'm trying to move some (but not all) subdirectories of /home to=20 >>/newhome, using tar.=20 > Are /home and /newhome on different filesystems? What wrong with a > simple mv? =20 Yes, /home and /newhome are on different filesystems. I was afraid that=20 by using mv I'd lose some permissions, but now, after reading man mv, it = seems I shouldn't be. Thanks for the tip. --=20 Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- |arvutiv=F5rgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| |Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | ----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 08:07:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A6C16A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:07:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.vertex.kz (relay.vertex.kz [212.19.129.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61EB43D55; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:07:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bp@vertex.kz) Received: from lion.butya.kz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.vertex.kz (Postfix) with SMTP id 5692D5C5A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:07:14 +0600 (ALMT) Received: from relay.vertex.kz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vertex.kz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3110A5C4B; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:07:14 +0600 (ALMT) Received: by relay.vertex.kz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2C0805BE5; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:07:14 +0600 (ALMT) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:07:14 +0600 From: Boris Popov To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" Message-ID: <20050113080714.GH13517@vertex.kz> References: <19510236615.20050112205002@binep.ac.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19510236615.20050112205002@binep.ac.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: rwatson@freebsd.org cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: RELENG_4 IPX commit broke net/mars_nwe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:07:20 -0000 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:50:02PM +0300, Igor B. Bykhalo wrote: > > Looks like the follwoing commit broke net/mars_nwe port > on my RELENG_4 file server box: Yes, it seems to be. Mars_nwe have different idea about added macro: # define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host # define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.c_net # define ipx_netlong(iaddr) (((union ipx_net_u *)(&((iaddr).x_net)))->long_e) > > Edit src/sys/netipx/ipx.h > Add delta 1.15.2.1 2005.01.02.13.00.51 rwatson > > > =================================================================== > RCS file: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v > retrieving revision 1.15 > retrieving revision 1.15.2.1 > diff -u -p -r1.15 -r1.15.2.1 > --- src/sys/netipx/ipx.h 1999/08/28 18:21:52 1.15 > +++ src/sys/netipx/ipx.h 2005/01/02 13:00:51 1.15.2.1 > @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ > * > * @(#)ipx.h > * > - * $FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v 1.15 1999/08/28 18:21:52 jhay Exp $ > + * $FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v 1.15.2.1 2005/01/02 13:00:51 rwatson Exp $ > */ > > #ifndef _NETIPX_IPX_H_ > @@ -108,6 +108,7 @@ union ipx_host { > union ipx_net { > u_char c_net[4]; > u_short s_net[2]; > + u_int u_net; > }; > > union ipx_net_u { > @@ -131,6 +132,8 @@ struct sockaddr_ipx { > char sipx_zero[2]; > }; > #define sipx_port sipx_addr.x_port > +#define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.u_net > +#define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host > > /* > * Definitions for IPX Internetwork Packet Exchange Protocol > -- Boris Popov http://rbp.euro.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 08:21:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855A816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299D043D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3/d) with ESMTP id j0D8LBOW020647; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:21:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:21:11 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200501130821.j0D8LB0R020646@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:17 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:11:27 +0100 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Scott Bennett writes: > >SB> I notice that the 5.2.1 boot messages refer to the second core as an >SB> AP, which I'm guessing stands for "attached processor". If that >SB> guess is correct, then it means that only the first core is able to >SB> perform certain functions, and the AP core has to get the first core >SB> to do those things for it when it needs them done. > >AP just stands for "application processor," from what I've seen. My >impression from snooping in the code and looking elsewhere is that an AP >is just a processor that is halted during system boot. The processor >that executes the boot sequence is the bootstrap processor (BSP). Once >the boot proceeds far enough to allow synchronization of multiple >processors, the other processors (APs all) are started by the BSP. Oh, good. That sounds much better than what I was thinking. > >This doesn't necessarily mean that the BSP is special in any other way >outside of startup or shutdown, and hopefully it is not, as that would >defeat much of the conceptual purpose behind SMP. I know that on >operating systems that insist on keeping one processor special for >certain tasks, the speed of this processor often becomes a bottleneck on >heavily loaded systems, as it tops out trying to handle all the >"restricted" stuff for the other processors and itself. Usually that sort of restriction has a basis in hardware. For example, IBM's MP mainframes *used to* require that the same processor that started an I/O operation be the one that fielded the interrupt(s) upon completion of the operation. Some machines also had the main processor/attached processor configuration, in which the attached processor had no access to the I/O hardware at all, so all I/O handling had to be done by the main processor because the AP had no way to do it. > >SB> What Intel claims is essentially that the HT-enabled CPUs allow >SB> snappier responses in interactive processes when a CPU-bound process >SB> is running. > >That I can believe. One of the great advantages to a multiple-processor >system is that it's much less likely to bog down if a process decides to >hog a processor (unless the process runs multiple threads). I think MP >is more interesting for its ability to run completely independent >processes or threads than it is for its ability to run multiple >threads doing the same thing. Few applications require multiple >high-speed processors churning through code all at once. > My main interest in such things at present is for dividing the workload in fluid dynamics and, most especially, geophysical fluid dynamics models. Those, of course, do immense amounts of number-crunching with occasional, massive bouts of I/O. I want to play around with making a two-threaded version of a GFD model (either atmospheric or oceanic) to see what, if any, savings there may be in elapsed time by running on both cores vs. just one. Such a model would have both threads doing essentially the same things, though operating upon different parts of the arrays involved. But first, I still have to get a usable FreeBSD system going. :-( Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 08:51:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DE916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:51:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9602D43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:51:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 65190 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 08:51:17 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 08:51:17 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:51:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501130951.17307.4711@chello.at> Subject: Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:51:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:54, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having a problem with gmirror. It would seem that I cannot add my > first disk to the mirror after booting off the second drive. My current > status is a degraded mirror and I cannot see any of the partitions on > disk one. > > For a guide, I'm using the excellent instructions at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ > > My system has identical WD 80GB SATA drives (ad4 and ad6). I've > followed the steps in the document that are labeled: > > "GEOM mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible" > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 bs=512 count=79 > # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad6 > > # gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1 > # gmirror load > > # bsdlabel -w -B /dev/mirror/gm0s1 > # bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1 > > # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1a > # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt > # dump -L -0 -f- / | (cd /mnt; restore -r -v -f-) > # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1d > # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /mnt/var > # dump -L -0 -f- /var | (cd /mnt/var; restore -r -v -f-) > # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1e > # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /mnt/tmp > # dump -L -0 -f- /tmp | (cd /mnt/tmp; restore -r -v -f-) > # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /mnt/usr > # dump -L -0 -f- /usr | (cd /mnt/usr; restore -r -v -f-) > # cp -p /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.orig > > # sed -e 's/dev\/ad4s1/dev\/mirror\/gm0s1/g' # echo 'swapoff="YES"' >>/mnt/etc/rc.conf > # echo 'geom_mirror_load="YES"' >>/mnt/boot/loader.conf > # echo "1:ad(6,a)/boot/loader" >/boot.config > > # shutdown -r now > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 You probably destroyed your slice table here. The dd command only makes sense if you insert whole disks (ie. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6) as providers. Otherwise you need to create (or already have) a valid slice table on the disk, which enables gmirror to locate and insert your slice. (!) Before you start to correct your gmirror setup, please read all of my comments, because to me it looks like you run a mirror of ad6 and not ad6s1. First you want to stop the mirror, you accidently started on ad4 (as seen in your 'gmirror list' output): # gmirror stop -v mirror Then remove the gmirror metadata from ad4: # gmirror remove -v mirror /dev/ad4 Clean out the first few sectors on ad4: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 Write out slice table where the only slice on te disk is ad4s1 (**: # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 After that go on with your procedure to add /dev/ad4s1 to mirror gm0s1: > # gmirror configure -a gm0s1 (** Your 'gmirror list' output below looks like your mirror gm0s1 doesn't use /dev/ad6s1 as provider, it more likely uses /dev/ad6. So if this is the case, you may want to mirror the whole device (/dev/ad4), instead of the slice (/dev/ad4s1). Also, in this case don't use command 'fdisk -v -B - -I /dev/ad4', because MBR and slice table will be copied from ad6. [ # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4 instead of /dev/ad4s1] > # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 > > > At this point I see... > > "Unknown provider ad4s1" > > A gmirror list reveals: > > Geom name: mirror > State: DEGRADED > Components: 2 > Balance: load > Slice: 2048 > Flags: NONE > SyncID: 2 > ID: 4216140117 > Providers: > 1. Name: mirror/mirror ^^^^^^ > Mediasize: 80026361344 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ad4 ^^^ This looks if you have entered a command like 'gmirror label -v -n -b load mirror /dev/ad4'? > Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: NONE > SyncID: 2 > ID: 3073402045 > > Geom name: mirror.sync > > Geom name: gm0s1 > State: COMPLETE > Components: 1 > Balance: round-robin > Slice: 4096 > Flags: NONE > SyncID: 1 > ID: 3205827760 > Providers: > 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1 > Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e1 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ad6 ^^^ Same as above, this looks to me like you have entered a command like 'gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6' instead of 'gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1'? Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe there are some stale metadata on your disks? > Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e2 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: DIRTY > SyncID: 1 > ID: 1606771156 > > geom name: gm0s1.sync [...] > webhost02# bsdlabel /dev/ad4 > bsdlabel: /dev/ad4: no valid label found As I said above, your slice table has been zeroed by the dd command. Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5jaF09WjGjvKU74RAiomAJ9GUllEIldi9DhlJK4IRWS1UUVVpwCaAzlW rmlGRwE5C4QHkYb/AuGToqs= =Kh0a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:03:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF77916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:03:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983B043D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:03:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D5E9BBE8C0 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1785 invoked by uid 4199); 13 Jan 2005 09:02:42 -0000 Date: 13 Jan 2005 09:02:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20050113090242.1784.qmail@rahul.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FBSD boot loader? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:03:13 -0000 Is there a 1024 cylinder limit on the first slice for a dual boot PC system using the FBSD boot loader? I presume there is, but I couldn't find it in the handbook. Maybe I missed it. Thanks, John -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:24:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D16216A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:24:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BD143D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:24:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost.daemonsecurity.com [127.0.0.1]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59338FD022 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:24:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E63E33.5010506@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:24:03 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dhcpd for ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:24:16 -0000 Hi, kame dhcpd does not support address allocation and isc-dhcpd does not support ipv6 - despite ipv6 being defined in 1996. This makes running an ipv6 based local network cumbersome to manage. Does anyone know of alternatives? I would like to set up a lan with ipv4/6 and an ipv6to4 gateway. How do you manage your ipv6 lan? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:33:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D5016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:33:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B30043D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:33:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 65383 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 09:33:40 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 09:33:40 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, John Conover Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:33:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050113090242.1784.qmail@rahul.net> In-Reply-To: <20050113090242.1784.qmail@rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501131033.39603.4711@chello.at> Subject: Re: FBSD boot loader? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:33:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 January 2005 10:02, John Conover wrote: > Is there a 1024 cylinder limit on the first slice for a dual boot > PC system using the FBSD boot loader? This depends if your computers BIOS supports disk packet interface, see 'man 8 boot0cfg', scroll down to "-o options", option packet. If your box is not too old, this should work. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=boot0cfg&sektion=8 Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5kBz09WjGjvKU74RAoJoAJwO6JH9C9eXjLcmJGyZhwy1dPlDDwCfcwSc RzNiQnniv5V1q1KZIh+sBRw= =PzAg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:35:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E201616A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:35:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7DF43D54 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:35:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 64D9214BFE6; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin502 (dyn414.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.117]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3044014BD66; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Freek Nossin" To: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:35:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050112140937.GA17381@akroteq.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcT4sJm2e6/wTVJDSLO+vu/RyoNewQAog1FA Message-Id: <20050113093506.3044014BD66@pastinakel.tue.nl> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pastinakel.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: dmv.com: pastinakel.tue.nl 1181; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: cc: andy@firman.us Subject: RE: Trouble starting MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:35:10 -0000 People should really check /usr/ports/CHANGES after synchronising the ports tree. One of the entries in the file is: (there are also entries for the other mysql versions) 20041019: AFFECTS: users of databases/mysql41-server AUTHOR: ale@FreeBSD.org The MySQL Daemon must now be enabled / disabled in rc.conf. See the script for details. I hope this helps ;) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andy Firman Sent: woensdag 12 januari 2005 15:10 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:35:21AM -0000, Walker, Michael wrote: > > Greetings all, > I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) then tried to start it. > Nothing doing - wo way. > > Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. > No error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either. > > > > Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld > from your rc.conf file. I am confused. I run FreeBSD 4.10 stable with mysql-server-4.0.21 installed from the ports. I have nothing in my rc.conf file for mysql, but I do have a /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh file. When I rebooted the machine last month, mysql started without anything in the rc.conf file. Why? _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:39:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF00616A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:39:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (ns.bitdefender.com [217.156.83.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B72543D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:38:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: (qmail 18526 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from apircalabu.dsd.ro (10.10.15.22) by mail.dsd.ro with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 09:38:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:41:31 +0200 From: Adi Pircalabu To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20050113114131.5f1ae808@apircalabu.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: <20050112165810.07364fcd@it.buh.tecnik93.com> References: <20050112152102.57fc843a@apircalabu.dsd.ro> <20050112165810.07364fcd@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Organization: BitDefender X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: 1.1.2 036000040111AAAAAAE X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender Qmail 1.6.1 on mail.bitdefender.com X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security port: automated integration in the mail/file server - to do or not to do ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:39:00 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:58:10 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > While I try to make my ports as user friendly and automated as > possible, I would vote for 2) above. I hate when something just > changes on my system without me telling it to do so explicitly; plus I > could very well install the port today and wait to the end of the week > to switch it on for testing; plus there will always be some strange > edge cases when you'll just break some custom configuration. Thank you for answering. I'll think about your answer, trying to balance the opinions on this topic, but the adequate decision is still quite difficult to take at this moment. Any other opinions which I should consider? -- Adrian Pircalabu Public KeyID = 0xF902393A -- This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender. For more information please visit http://www.bitdefender.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:56:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA47016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:56:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E8B43D5C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:56:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from [192.168.8.50] (ppp19-170.static.internode.on.net [150.101.19.170])j0D9ugOD080288; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:26:43 +1030 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:26:58 +1030 From: Shane Ambler To: Ted Mittelstaedt , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 4.9 rebooting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:56:46 -0000 I would agree with looking into hardware problems - I have a MSI-694 dual proc machine that about two or three months ago started rebooting once or twice a week for no apparent reason, then one hot day it became several times a day and I shut it down before going away for xmas. Now it won't even attempt to start with both cpu's - with one it will boot but at one of the hardware probes (just after keyboard) it restarts, as if someone is hitting the reset button. If it is failing hardware you may find no indication of the fault - the faulty hardware may cause the same effect as someone pressing the reset button - your logs would show normal operation then dmesg would show system boot with disks unmounted properly and starting (or delaying) fsck. On 13/1/05 8:06 AM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > If this was something like a kernel panic there would be a > message in /var/log/messages > > If nothing is in there then it's probably failing hardware. > My experiences in those cases is that no matter what logging you > turn on, nothing gets logged, the machine just reboots. > > If it's a remote colocated server maybe the UPS it's on > is shot, and it's getting power fluctuations. Or maybe > it's overheating or it's clogged with dust. > > Ted > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jim Pazarena >> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:40 AM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: 4.9 rebooting >> >> >> I have a remote server which has begun re-booting every few days. >> >> Are there any logs which I can examine that may provide a clue as to >> the reason? Or any logging I can turn "on/up" ? I realize that >> during a reboot, logs are seldom "up-to-date", but any clue would >> be handy. >> >> This is a remote co-located server which will take a fairly >> expensive trip to get hands-on with. I'd like to have ammunition >> at hand before I commit to the trip. >> >> Thanks, >> Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Shane Ambler Sales Department 007Marketing.com Shane@007Marketing.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 10:06:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1342816A4D0 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:06:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50206.mail.yahoo.com (web50206.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2823B43D53 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from babaloomunchies@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27018 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2005 10:06:07 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=l8Y6SaxmFp1eS4t7hk7ABJ3oYKXbzWKnOD19xHWPbIm9CXT3yekSDIfpAWBZhnGfPyTfufXCpaEPaxJmZ0k57qbp7IFkwCSEdnZo9gma/VHQu/QDgpD2sEs1Fz9Cnc8bnm/3+qzSSU+51MDs7MVG6qMaMcyFPd3uCTsxEFxpbto= ; Message-ID: <20050113100607.27016.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.175.115.134] by web50206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:06:07 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:06:07 -0800 (PST) From: babaloo munchies To: Fabian Keil , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501021341.54023.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: babaloo munchies cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Production Release 5.3 Installation Won't Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:06:09 -0000 Greetings, Thank you for your quick response. The CD image itself was fine--the 5.3 installation disc booted on a newer laptop. I finally gave up and used floppies and was able to install 5.3 from CD on the pentium mmx desktop. This is strange because the 4.8 installation cd booted fine on the same pentium desktop. One difference between 4.8 & 5.3 is that the 5.3 loads ACPI , but is the ACPI module loaded in the installation kernel? Is it an interrupt problem? I don't know. But I do have 5.3 running happily on it now thanks to teh floppies. (sorry if I don't understand the FreeBSD kernel or if I'm using the wrong terminology. In GNU/Linux I believe ACPI must be compiled into the kernel.) thank you gods (devils) of FreeBSD. FYI, this pentium mmx machine running 5.3 is a ROCKET even when compared to an optimally compiled Gentoo Linux kernel. I have never seen any machine boot as fast, restart apache & serve webpages as fast as this, and it's only a pentium mmx. wow. --- Fabian Keil wrote: > On Friday 31 December 2004 14:03, Andrew L. Gould > wrote: > > On Friday 31 December 2004 05:19 am, babaloo > munchies wrote: > > > > I downloaded ISO images disc 1 & disc 2 & the > boot > > > disk for FreeBSD 5.3 to install on a Pentium MMX > > > machine. None of these discs will boot for the > > > installation! What happens is the CD drive > fires up, > > > I see a couple of lines from FreeBSD--the > bootloader > > > or something--it acts like it's trying to boot. > The > > > CD drive spins up, the two or three lines flash > on the > > > screen but then the whole computer restarts. It > keeps > > > doing this over and over again for each disc. > > > > > > I had an old FreeBSD 4.8 disc and it booted > fine. I > > > thought maybe my burner had problems so I burned > a > > > Linux distro and it booted fine. > > > > > > So the problem cannot be the CD medium (3 cds w/ > same > > > problem?), not the CD burner and not the > machine. > > > What's going on? This is the third time I've > tried > > > FreeBSD and failed to get it to work. I just > give up > > > and revert to linux because at least I can > install it > > > each and every time. But I want to use FreeBSD. > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > Perhaps the problem is with the iso image. Try > downloading the iso file > > for CD1 again. > > Comparing the md5sum of the image with the one at > the server > might save bandwidth. > > Regards > Fabian > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 10:06:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94B316A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:06:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50206.mail.yahoo.com (web50206.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1897F43D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from babaloomunchies@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27018 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2005 10:06:07 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=l8Y6SaxmFp1eS4t7hk7ABJ3oYKXbzWKnOD19xHWPbIm9CXT3yekSDIfpAWBZhnGfPyTfufXCpaEPaxJmZ0k57qbp7IFkwCSEdnZo9gma/VHQu/QDgpD2sEs1Fz9Cnc8bnm/3+qzSSU+51MDs7MVG6qMaMcyFPd3uCTsxEFxpbto= ; Message-ID: <20050113100607.27016.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.175.115.134] by web50206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:06:07 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:06:07 -0800 (PST) From: babaloo munchies To: Fabian Keil , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501021341.54023.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: babaloo munchies cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Production Release 5.3 Installation Won't Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:06:09 -0000 Greetings, Thank you for your quick response. The CD image itself was fine--the 5.3 installation disc booted on a newer laptop. I finally gave up and used floppies and was able to install 5.3 from CD on the pentium mmx desktop. This is strange because the 4.8 installation cd booted fine on the same pentium desktop. One difference between 4.8 & 5.3 is that the 5.3 loads ACPI , but is the ACPI module loaded in the installation kernel? Is it an interrupt problem? I don't know. But I do have 5.3 running happily on it now thanks to teh floppies. (sorry if I don't understand the FreeBSD kernel or if I'm using the wrong terminology. In GNU/Linux I believe ACPI must be compiled into the kernel.) thank you gods (devils) of FreeBSD. FYI, this pentium mmx machine running 5.3 is a ROCKET even when compared to an optimally compiled Gentoo Linux kernel. I have never seen any machine boot as fast, restart apache & serve webpages as fast as this, and it's only a pentium mmx. wow. --- Fabian Keil wrote: > On Friday 31 December 2004 14:03, Andrew L. Gould > wrote: > > On Friday 31 December 2004 05:19 am, babaloo > munchies wrote: > > > > I downloaded ISO images disc 1 & disc 2 & the > boot > > > disk for FreeBSD 5.3 to install on a Pentium MMX > > > machine. None of these discs will boot for the > > > installation! What happens is the CD drive > fires up, > > > I see a couple of lines from FreeBSD--the > bootloader > > > or something--it acts like it's trying to boot. > The > > > CD drive spins up, the two or three lines flash > on the > > > screen but then the whole computer restarts. It > keeps > > > doing this over and over again for each disc. > > > > > > I had an old FreeBSD 4.8 disc and it booted > fine. I > > > thought maybe my burner had problems so I burned > a > > > Linux distro and it booted fine. > > > > > > So the problem cannot be the CD medium (3 cds w/ > same > > > problem?), not the CD burner and not the > machine. > > > What's going on? This is the third time I've > tried > > > FreeBSD and failed to get it to work. I just > give up > > > and revert to linux because at least I can > install it > > > each and every time. But I want to use FreeBSD. > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > Perhaps the problem is with the iso image. Try > downloading the iso file > > for CD1 again. > > Comparing the md5sum of the image with the one at > the server > might save bandwidth. > > Regards > Fabian > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 10:17:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9164116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:17:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from atlas.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (atlas.informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924AC43D54 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:17:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (menelaos.informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.73]) with ESMTP id j0DAH7os012597 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:17:07 +0100 Received: (from stolz@localhost)j0DAH7re000689 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:17:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stolz) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:17:07 +0100 From: Volker Stolz To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050113101707.GA579@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: finger vs@foldr.org X-PGP-Id: 0x3FD1B6B5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: 4.11: crash dump while burning cdr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:17:09 -0000 In case anybody is still interested in this one. I got it while burning a CDR with xcdroast. For lisp-related reasons the kernel was also build with options KVA_PAGES=768. I doubt it's easily repeatable. IdlePTD at physical address 0x003fd000 initial pcb at physical address 0x0034b440 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- dmesg: kvm_read: --- #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 487 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) bt #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0x4017d147 in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0x4017d56c in poweroff_wait (junk=0x403166ac, howto=1076978095) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #3 0x402b9c6a in trap_fatal (frame=0x64978ea0, eva=3217030860) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974 #4 0x402b993d in trap_pfault (frame=0x64978ea0, usermode=0, eva=3217030860) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867 #5 0x402b9527 in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 1105068048, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1077936456, tf_esi = -1077936456, tf_ebp = 1687654116, tf_isp = 1687654092, tf_ebx = 1687654148, tf_edx = 1687642112, tf_ecx = -1077936456, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 1127506396, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = 1684635488, tf_ss = 1687654184}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466 #6 0x433461dc in ?? () #7 0x43346682 in ?? () #8 0x402b9f19 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 7, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = 1069465256, tf_isp = 1687654356, tf_ebx = 7, tf_edx = 1069465184, tf_ecx = 14, tf_eax = 221, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134645480, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = 1069465148, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1175 #9 0x402adc45 in Xint0x80_syscall () #10 0x804b50e in ?? () #11 0x804a065 in ?? () #12 0x804a91a in ?? () #13 0x804864f in ?? () #14 0x804ce9f in ?? () Cheers, Volker -- http://www-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/stolz/ *** PGP *** S/MIME From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 10:58:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28B216A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AC043D1F; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AD8BD74B; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFDB18F8B; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 15579-03; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:21 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A822318E92; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E65444.8090009@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:12 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babaloo munchies References: <20050113100607.27016.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050113100607.27016.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Fabian Keil Subject: Re: Production Release 5.3 Installation Won't Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:32 -0000 I had the same problem (continous boot cycle if booting from the CDROM media). In my case FreeBSD 5.3 did not like my Promise IDE controller ... babaloo munchies schrieb: > > One difference between 4.8 & 5.3 is that the 5.3 loads > ACPI , but is the ACPI module loaded in the > installation kernel? Is it an interrupt problem? I > don't know. But I do have 5.3 running happily on it > now thanks to teh floppies. AFAIK - FreeBSD, per defualt, does not boot with ACPI enabled. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 10:58:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28B216A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AC043D1F; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AD8BD74B; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFDB18F8B; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 15579-03; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:21 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A822318E92; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E65444.8090009@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:58:12 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babaloo munchies References: <20050113100607.27016.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050113100607.27016.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Fabian Keil Subject: Re: Production Release 5.3 Installation Won't Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:58:32 -0000 I had the same problem (continous boot cycle if booting from the CDROM media). In my case FreeBSD 5.3 did not like my Promise IDE controller ... babaloo munchies schrieb: > > One difference between 4.8 & 5.3 is that the 5.3 loads > ACPI , but is the ACPI module loaded in the > installation kernel? Is it an interrupt problem? I > don't know. But I do have 5.3 running happily on it > now thanks to teh floppies. AFAIK - FreeBSD, per defualt, does not boot with ACPI enabled. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 11:07:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06CC16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:07:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parrot.aev.net (host29-15.pool8174.interbusiness.it [81.74.15.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A0043D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:06:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-16-6.41-151.net24.it [151.41.6.16]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0DBHvdn007474 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:18:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from netfence.it (xanatar.ventu [10.1.2.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DB5Ct8059779 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:05:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <41E65688.4010700@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:07:52 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040117 X-Accept-Language: it,en,fr,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> <41E58E53.7060606@netfence.it> <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:07:03 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Where these computations in which all threads were doing pretty much the > same thing? Not exactly the same algorithm and on different set of data. > And was it floating-point? Yes. > (Doesn't the processor have just one FPU, or something like that?) I don't really know (I made this test almost for fun and curiosity), but I really supposed this must be true. Anyway I saw both CPU at 100%. > An AMD processor will also melt or catch fire if the CPU fan fails, > whereas an Intel processor won't. In the past. Nowadays they have some sort of protection. BTW I've already seen a couple of (old) Athlons with a failing fan; they run overheated probably for months with occasional system lockups, but they are now working good with a new fan. I'll stop here, we are going OT (and flaming :)... bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 11:12:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1E016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:12:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.webzone.net.au (mail3.webzone.net.au [210.8.36.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B108E43D49 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:12:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webzone.net.au) Received: from [192.168.255.2] (unverified [220.240.162.111]) by mail3.webzone.net.au for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:42:29 +1030 Message-ID: <41E6579D.8000005@webzone.net.au> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:42:29 +1030 From: lists User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41D78555.10605@webzone.net.au> <20050102054245.GD14949@alzatex.com> <41D79361.1050806@webzone.net.au> <41D9FF35.9080702@webzone.net.au> In-Reply-To: <41D9FF35.9080702@webzone.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 - Write failure on transfer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:12:32 -0000 Further to this problem, I have tried installing FreeBSD5.3 on a second hp netserver and I continue to get the same problem during the install process. "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes)" After two weeks of stuffing around I am giving up on 5.3 - there is clearly something wrong with 5.3 - there does not appear to be anything wrong with the hardware - its appears to be a FreeBSD 5.3 issue -. I have gone back to 4.10 which installs fine. Somewhere between 4.10 and 5.3 something has broken in relation to an installation on a netserver box. Has anyone else got a hp netserver LC2000r or similar box and been able to get 5.3 installed? Lino lists wrote: > It looks like it is having a problem relating to the mounting the > drives. When I rerun the FreeBSD5.3 install a second time - it lists > the drives from the first install but they are missing the mount > locations. > > Any suggestions on a work around? > > Lino > > lists wrote: > >> Loren M. Lang wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 03:53:33PM +1030, Lino Fusco wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am a newbie to this list and I hope I am posting to the correct >>>> list - apologies if I am off target. >>>> >>>> I am installing FreeBSD 5.3 on a hp netserver LC2000r. The box is >>>> a dual processor P3 with three scsi2 drives running in a raid1 >>>> configuration with one hot spare. >>>> >>>> We have six of these boxes. Three of them are running FreeBSD 4.8 >>>> or 4.9 without a hitch. >>>> >>>> I decided to install 5.3 from CD on a fourth box and I am having a >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> I go through the install process. When it goes to write the file >>>> structure to the drives it does this in a around 1 second - this >>>> seems very fast. Then it starts copying from the CD and I quickly >>>> get the following error: >>>> >>>> "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes)" >>>> >>>> I click ok and the next error message is: >>>> >>>> "unable to transfer the base distribution from acd0, do you want to >>>> try to retrieve it again?". >>>> >>>> So this has started me troubleshooting the possible causes of the >>>> problem: >>>> >>>> 1) First stop was to suspect the freebsd iso I had burnt was >>>> suspect. So I re burnt the cd and the problem persisted. I then >>>> suspected the ISO I had downloaded was corrupted. So I downloaded >>>> it again, burnt the cd but the problem still persisted. >>>> >>>> 2) I then suspected the second copy could have come from a cache >>>> and therefore may have the same problem as the first copy - so I >>>> checked the md5 signature but it lines up with the original from >>>> freebsd.org >>>> >>>> 3) I suspected the CD Rom drive - so I swapped it with one of our >>>> other Netserver boxes - problem still persisted. >>>> >>>> 4)I suspected a drive formatting problem - so I went back into the >>>> SCSI software, redid the raid drives and reformatted them - problem >>>> still persisted. >>>> >>>> 5) I suspected another hardware problem - so I pulled out FreeBSD >>>> 4.9 to see if that would install - and it did install without any >>>> errors. That sort of discounts there being any hardware problems. >>>> It points to something specific to freebsd 5.3. >>>> >>>> So this is where I have got to - FreeBSD 4.9 will install without >>>> errors but 5.3 will not install. >>>> >>>> I suspect the problem has to do with the initial setting up of the >>>> file structure - 5.3 is doing this in about one second whereas 4.9 >>>> takes closer to a minute to do this. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts or suggestion? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe FreeBSD 5.3 does support using UFS 1 in the install, just >>> check the option in the disklabel program, but if the partitioning also >>> fails then that may not be the problem. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Lino >>>> Webzone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Hi, >> >> Tried setting the partitions to UFS1 - FreeBSD 5.3 then takes closer >> to a minute to setup the partitions just like 4.9 - but still get the >> same error message when it goes to copy the files. >> >> Thanks but did not work. >> >> Lino >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 12:17:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAA916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55B743D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0DCHLd5054768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:17:21 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j0DCHJRI002548; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:17:19 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:17:19 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501131217.j0DCHJRI002548@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: ACPI error at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:17:25 -0000 Hi, When the machine boots, I get those messages about ACPI. I am clueless about the meaning/gravity. Machine is a SE7501WV2 from Intel, with dual Xeon. Help please. Bests, Olivier Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Wed Jan 12 10:59:15 ICT 2005 root@fbsd35.cs.ait.ac.th:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMALL ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz (3056.82-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2147418112 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2100158464 (2002 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [DEB_] had invalid type (Integer) fo r Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [MLIB] had invalid type (Integer) fo r Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [DATA] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SIO_] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [LEDP] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [GPEN] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [GPST] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [WUES] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [WUSE] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SBID] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SWCE] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard lapic0: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_ec0: port 0xca7,0xca6 on acpi0 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 12:18:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EFD16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:18:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A6E43D46 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:18:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0DCIMRQ054808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:18:22 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j0DCIMrx002556; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:18:22 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:18:22 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501131218.j0DCIMrx002556@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:18:25 -0000 > Did it start up when you replaced the fan, or was it gone for good? It was dead for good, well it is still dead as a matter of fact :) > I thought all the boxed P4 processors came with their own fan, so there > should never be a case in which a PC is sold with a P4 but no CPU fan. So did I, so did I, but one sees strange things when buying a machine from a cheap assembly shop (I was not the first buyer, I just got the machine when it became unusable and then I was curious so I opened it, what the first owner never did). Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 12:33:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C31F16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:33:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out009.verizon.net (out009pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDF443D60 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:33:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out009.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050113123340.TJJH24088.out009.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:33:40 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C850116C5 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15700-10 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C8FF4116C0; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:33:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:33:31 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050113123331.GA18487@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20050113014530.GA33397@keyslapper.org> <20050113020101.GA50827@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050113020101.GA50827@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out009.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:33:39 -0600 Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:33:41 -0000 On 01/12/05 06:01 PM, Kris Kennaway sat at the `puter and typed: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:45:30PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > Hey folks. I'm trying to make a cruft killing run through my > > installed packages. > > > > What would make this a lot easier is if I could easily get a list of > > packages that are installed that are NOT required by other packages. > > > > I know that `pkg_info -aR` will give me all packages along with those > > that require it. Anyone know how best to get a list of packages > > without dependant packages installed? > > pkg_cutleaves Excellent! Precisely what I was looking for. Thanks Kris! Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Tell the truth or trump--but get the trick. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 13:24:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAC816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:24:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB2643D3F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:24:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963803D40 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:24:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:26:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <41E630C3.17475.915505A8@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:24:42 -0000 I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable. Anyone succeeded? I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is just putty, not ssh-agent. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 13:29:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4597216A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:29:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from admin.cablespeed.com (mail.admin.cablespeed.com [216.15.205.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D633643D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:29:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from data2@cablespeed.com) Received: from [24.56.220.5] (account data2@cablespeed.com HELO mdm2205) by admin.cablespeed.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 94559534; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:29:11 -0600 Message-ID: <0a4901c4f973$faeda4d0$05dc3818@mdm2205> From: "Jon Krause" To: "Dan Langille" , References: <41E630C3.17475.915505A8@localhost> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:29:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:29:12 -0000 From: "Dan Langille" Subject: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? : I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable. : Anyone succeeded? : : I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is : just putty, not ssh-agent. : -- : Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ : BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ : What version of Putty are you using? There are know issues with ssh2 on earlier versions of Putty. Try Putty Release 0.56 Best, Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 13:30:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB46716A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:30:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8985F43D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D00BD73D; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:30:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD0418A0A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:30:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 66440-09; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:30:00 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA8D189F8; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:29:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E677D5.4070306@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:29:57 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Langille References: <41E630C3.17475.915505A8@localhost> In-Reply-To: <41E630C3.17475.915505A8@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:30:12 -0000 If you are using PuTTY on Windows why don't you use pageant.exe on Windows as well? Dan Langille schrieb: > I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable. > Anyone succeeded? > > I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is > just putty, not ssh-agent. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 13:34:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE7B16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0D143D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309023D40; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:34:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Daniel S. Haischt" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:36:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <41E63312.30504.915E0965@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <41E677D5.4070306@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> References: <41E630C3.17475.915505A8@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:32 -0000 On 13 Jan 2005 at 14:29, Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > Dan Langille schrieb: > > I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable. > > Anyone succeeded? > > > > I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is > > just putty, not ssh-agent. > If you are using PuTTY on Windows why don't you use > pageant.exe on Windows as well? I'm not using Windows. I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-stable. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 14:23:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257B716A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:23:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E439443D54 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:23:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760B73D40; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:23:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Jon Krause" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:25:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <41E63E79.8654.918A93BD@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <0a4901c4f973$faeda4d0$05dc3818@mdm2205> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:23:12 -0000 On 13 Jan 2005 at 8:29, Jon Krause wrote: > From: "Dan Langille" > Subject: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? > > > : I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable. > : Anyone succeeded? > : > : I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is > : just putty, not ssh-agent. > > What version of Putty are you using? > There are know issues with ssh2 on earlier versions of Putty. > Try Putty Release 0.56 It is Putty 0.56. And I have solved the issue. I was getting prompted for my user name. I assumed that indicated ssh-agent was not working. I entered my user name, and I'm logged in. I went to the configuration items and set "Auto-login username" to 'dan'. Now when I run putty, all I need to do is specify the hostname, and I'm logged in. [for those trying to find out how to do this, the hosts I logged into already have my public ssh key in their ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file] -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 14:24:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0062716A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:24:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F5543D1D; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:24:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0DEOo7S060829 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:50 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j0DEOnvw001009; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:49 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:49 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501131424.j0DEOnvw001009@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Cut and paste in Emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:24:55 -0000 Hi, There is that strange and annoying behaviours that I have noticed with Emacs 21.3.1. Other versions I used to use were in the 19ish and had no problem. When I select some text with the mouse in Emacs, i can copy it into another X window application, but I cannot copy it in a Win2K application. When I select some text in any other X Window application, I can copy it into Win2k, so the mechanism select in X, paste in w2k is working. So now when I want to copy/paste from emacs to w2k, I have to paste in some other place, select again and finally paste in w2k. Any clue/help would be welcome. best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 15:01:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA12616A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:01:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0C443D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:01:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0DF1NC28981; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501131501.j0DF1NC28981@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: conover@rahul.net Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:01:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050113090242.1784.qmail@rahul.net> from "John Conover" at Jan 13, 2005 09:02:42 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD boot loader? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:01:29 -0000 > > > Is there a 1024 cylinder limit on the first slice for a dual boot > PC system using the FBSD boot loader? > > I presume there is, but I couldn't find it in the handbook. Maybe I > missed it. > Not if you have a reasonably recent BIOS. FreeBSD can handle it just fine as long as the BIOS can deal with it to get started. This is a question handled often and I believe there is a FAQ on it that can explain it much better than I can. ////jerry > Thanks, > > John > > -- > > John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 15:10:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6659E16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:10:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF58E43D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:10:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0DFAV329046; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:10:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501131510.j0DFAV329046@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: doug@polands.org (Doug Poland) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:10:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> from "Doug Poland" at Jan 12, 2005 08:54:02 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:10:38 -0000 > > Hello, > > I'm having a problem with gmirror. It would seem that I cannot add my > first disk to the mirror after booting off the second drive. My current > status is a degraded mirror and I cannot see any of the partitions on > disk one. > > For a guide, I'm using the excellent instructions at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ > > My system has identical WD 80GB SATA drives (ad4 and ad6). I've > followed the steps in the document that are labeled: > > "GEOM mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible" > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 bs=512 count=79 > # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad6 > > # gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1 > # gmirror load > > # bsdlabel -w -B /dev/mirror/gm0s1 > # bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1 > > # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1a > # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt > # dump -L -0 -f- / | (cd /mnt; restore -r -v -f-) > # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1d > # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /mnt/var > # dump -L -0 -f- /var | (cd /mnt/var; restore -r -v -f-) > # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1e > # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /mnt/tmp > # dump -L -0 -f- /tmp | (cd /mnt/tmp; restore -r -v -f-) > # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /mnt/usr > # dump -L -0 -f- /usr | (cd /mnt/usr; restore -r -v -f-) > # cp -p /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.orig > > # sed -e 's/dev\/ad4s1/dev\/mirror\/gm0s1/g' # echo 'swapoff="YES"' >>/mnt/etc/rc.conf > # echo 'geom_mirror_load="YES"' >>/mnt/boot/loader.conf > # echo "1:ad(6,a)/boot/loader" >/boot.config > > # shutdown -r now > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 Well, I am not so familiar with gmirror, but the dd in each case completely overwrites the slice and partition tables and any other boot stuff at the beginning of the disk with zeros. That is often done to make sure it is clear and treated as a clean disk. I see that after the first dd (to /dev/ad6) you have an fdisk which then writes a slice table. But, after the second dd (to /dev/ad4) you do not have any fdisk so it might not know what to do with that. You may need an equivalent fdisk here too. ////jerry > > # gmirror configure -a gm0s1 > # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 > > At this point I see... > > "Unknown provider ad4s1" > > A gmirror list reveals: > > Geom name: mirror > State: DEGRADED > Components: 2 > Balance: load > Slice: 2048 > Flags: NONE > SyncID: 2 > ID: 4216140117 > Providers: > 1. Name: mirror/mirror > Mediasize: 80026361344 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ad4 > Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: NONE > SyncID: 2 > ID: 3073402045 > > Geom name: mirror.sync > > Geom name: gm0s1 > State: COMPLETE > Components: 1 > Balance: round-robin > Slice: 4096 > Flags: NONE > SyncID: 1 > ID: 3205827760 > Providers: > 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1 > Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e1 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ad6 > Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e2 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: DIRTY > SyncID: 1 > ID: 1606771156 > > Geom name: gm0s1.sync > > Here's a snippet of /var/log/messages after the first reboot: > > Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1 created (id=3205827760). > Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 detected. > Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 activated. > Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider mirror/gm0s1 launched. > Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror created (id=4216140117). > Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 detected. > Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Force device mirror start due to timeout. > Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot update metadata on disk ad4 (error=1). > Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 activated. > Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider mirror/mirror launched. > Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot update metadata on disk ad4 (error=1). > Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 disconnected. > Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider mirror/mirror destroyed. > Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror destroyed. > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel > > Subsequent reboots reveal: > > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror created (id=4216140117). > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 detected. > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1 created (id=3205827760). > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 detected. > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 activated. > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider mirror/gm0s1 launched. > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Force device mirror start due to timeout. > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 activated. > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider mirror/mirror launched. > Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a > > > Here's my bsdlabels, if that helps: > > webhost02# bsdlabel /dev/mirror/gm0s1 > # /dev/mirror/gm0s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > b: 4142160 524288 swap > c: 156301424 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit > d: 16777216 4666448 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > e: 2097152 21443664 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > f: 132755506 23540816 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > webhost02# bsdlabel /dev/ad6 > # /dev/ad6: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > b: 4142160 524288 swap > c: 156301424 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit > d: 16777216 4666448 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > e: 2097152 21443664 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > f: 132755506 23540816 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! > bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities > > webhost02# bsdlabel /dev/ad4 > bsdlabel: /dev/ad4: no valid label found > > Thanks for your help! > > -- > Regards, > Doug > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 14:27:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6E016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:27:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968A143D3F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:27:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nlamprecht@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so360126wri for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:27:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NMo+W0zZ03OVf9QnIPhasqsY10ENKsFScfzzRGp91CQqTMrqgPuyA+BboebcVOHSd0kSs3MBptG1gWJ5Anc5Wzc5Sd9vkU7eLFNck5mET9gHJ4I3/xu9yePQdCtbTyZZmwIDc3cUeUh1C+APxJW0YXtq+B/qnRr7aA6oLEdXKsM= Received: by 10.54.50.50 with SMTP id x50mr25457wrx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.38.16 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:27:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7cbadc87050113062773597549@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:27:38 +0200 From: Nelis Lamprecht To: Dan Langille In-Reply-To: <41E630C3.17475.915505A8@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41E630C3.17475.915505A8@localhost> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:28:46 +0000 Subject: Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nelis Lamprecht List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:27:42 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:26:43 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable. > Anyone succeeded? > > I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is > just putty, not ssh-agent. > -- Similiar problems have been noted on this list before with putty, the solution was to set PasswordAuthentication to yes in your sshd_config which is disabled by default in 5.3 Nelis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 15:35:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A6016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:35:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50908.mail.yahoo.com (web50908.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 275E943D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:35:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siro200@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 87727 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2005 15:35:46 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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Thanks, Olga __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 15:41:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3873216A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:41:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC5843D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:41:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <200501131541280140016feve>; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:41:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 9529 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 15:44:13 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 15:44:13 -0000 Message-ID: <41E697DA.5090905@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:46:34 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501131424.j0DEOnvw001009@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200501131424.j0DEOnvw001009@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cut and paste in Emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:41:29 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: >When I select some text with the mouse in Emacs, i can copy it into >another X window application, but I cannot copy it in a Win2K >application. > > It would be helpful to know how you access the win2k application (rdesktop, vmware, ...). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 15:42:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12AC16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:42:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7F243D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:42:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id j0DFgLsc015215 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:42:21 +0200 Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 13 Jan 05 17:42:22 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 13 Jan 05 17:41:56 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (192.168.1.2) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 13 Jan 05 17:41:53 +0300 Message-ID: <41E696BF.8090704@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:41:51 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <41E58EA5.3060903@raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <41E58EA5.3060903@raad.tartu.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Replacing both disks in RAID1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:42:23 -0000 Toomas Aas wrote: > I have a small server running FreeBSD 4.10, 2 x 80 GB drives mirrored o= n=20 > Promise TX2 integrated RAID1 controller. I'd like to replace the 80 GB = > drives with 200 GB drives. >=20 > Here's my current plan: >=20 > 1. Attach one of the new drives to free ICH4 IDE port on motherboard,=20 > partition it and transfer the data using dump/tar. >=20 > 2. Remove the 80 GB drives, attach 200 GB drives (one with data, one=20 > blank) to TX2 IDE ports and re-create the mirror using Promise onboard = > BIOS utility. >=20 > 3. Reboot, fix the fstab (if necessary) and be done with it. >=20 > I have one doubt with it. Currently my partitions are ar0s1a (/), ar0s1= b=20 > (swap), ar0s1e (/var) etc. When I create corresponding partitions on th= e=20 > new drive while it is attached to ICH4 controller, the partitions are=20 > created as ad0s1a, ad0s1b etc. When I then move this drive to TX2 port = > and re-create the mirror the partitions should again be ar0s1a, ar0s1b = > etc. Will it "just work" or will it not work at all? Another thought - maybe I shouldn't create the new array using the=20 Promise BIOS utility, but instead should bring the server up and use=20 'atacontrol create RAID1'? What do you think? Which method has a better=20 chance of success? --=20 Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- |arvutiv=F5rgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| |Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | ----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 15:43:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E1B16A51C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:43:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9847743D46 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:43:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <200501131543500130091feve>; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:43:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 10247 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 15:46:35 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 15:46:35 -0000 Message-ID: <41E69869.4040807@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:48:57 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050113153546.87725.qmail@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050113153546.87725.qmail@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dspam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:43:51 -0000 Olga Zenkova wrote: >Hi! >I use dspam-2.10.3. Is it possible to use it not for >all users of FreeBSD system? > > > This is the wrong mailing list for this type of question, since it doesn't really relate to bsd, so much as your MTA/LDA. Regardless, yes, it is possible, in any number of ways. What is your current setup? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 15:47:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3374616A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:47:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82B643D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:47:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0C4BD7B1; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:47:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7A918BC2; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:47:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 76612-01; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:47:32 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A940F18BA7; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:47:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E69812.6060907@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:47:30 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olga Zenkova References: <20050113153546.87725.qmail@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050113153546.87725.qmail@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dspam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:47:36 -0000 Hello, I am using DSPAM 3.3-DEVEL but i guess DSPAM 2.10 works the same way regarding your question. If you compiled DSPAM with the opt-out option the user needs to place a .nodspam file in his home directory if he wants to *not* use DSPAM. Try some googeling to get some more details. Olga Zenkova schrieb: > Hi! > I use dspam-2.10.3. Is it possible to use it not for > all users of FreeBSD system? > > Thanks, > Olga > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e6956b734681234717571! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 16:07:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8097816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:07:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17E243D54 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:07:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so622666wri for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:07:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=tE5GOIhmKbMCLG4xN9ig1h70ts52r+xeIdFNT5vmKocvI1sK/yjW9xiEYwyla9dgNA4ugYFI2RS0BIhJ45OMdFfGfNdmp/nwxyyu7Aenm6PBzch+dfoTOO+TqkHTagE/Hroz0jStcyPYQwg9J1+MxRg7T74cJwDpErsNY7IHqXw= Received: by 10.54.47.33 with SMTP id u33mr326161wru; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:07:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.8 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:07:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf05011308077a305649@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:07:53 -0700 From: Jon Drews To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200501131424.j0DEOnvw001009@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200501131424.j0DEOnvw001009@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cut and paste in Emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:07:55 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:49 +0700 (ICT), Olivier Nicole wrote: > When I select some text with the mouse in Emacs, i can copy it into > another X window application, but I cannot copy it in a Win2K > application. > > When I select some text in any other X Window application, I can copy > it into Win2k, so the mechanism select in X, paste in w2k is working. > This may be similar to a problem in copying from Emacs and pasting into Gnumeric. Any way try this: 1) In EMACS do: M-x clipboard-kill-ring-save RET 2) Then highlight the text and save it (either withe mouse or by C-SPACE, followed by ESC-w, at the end of the region to be copied. See this e-mail: Copying from EMACS to Gnumeric http://www.silug.org/lists/silug-discuss/200407/msg00066.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 16:38:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F5516A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:38:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B498F43D53 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:38:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0DGc817076223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:38:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E6A3C8.3080806@mac.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:37:28 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1741746219.20050113024231@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1741746219.20050113024231@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com Subject: Re: Definitions of process states in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:38:17 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Is there someplace where I can find definitions of the process states > that I see in the STATE column of top? RUN and CPU1 are easy enough > to figure out, but most of the rest are mysterious. The states are scattered throughout the kernel: sys/kern/kern_time.c: error = tsleep(&nanowait, PWAIT | PCATCH, "nanslp", src/sys/kern/tty.c: "ttyin" : "ttyhup", sys/kern/sys_pipe.c: "piperd", 0)) == 0) ...for a few common states (nanslp, ttyin, piperd). Use a command like: find /usr/src/sys | xargs grep piperd ...and replace piperd with whatever state it is that you are curious about. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 16:43:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5069F16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:43:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C5443D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:43:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0DGhBr1078948 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:43:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E6A4F6.2020202@mac.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:42:30 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <41E63E33.5010506@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <41E63E33.5010506@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: dhcpd for ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:43:19 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > kame dhcpd does not support address allocation and isc-dhcpd does not > support ipv6 - despite ipv6 being defined in 1996. This makes running an > ipv6 based local network cumbersome to manage. You're absolutely right. > Does anyone know of alternatives? Certainly: use IPv4. ISC's dhcpd does just fine with classic IPv4 addresses. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 16:48:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5250C16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:48:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8EB43D55 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:47:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 02B182841C; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:48:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id EAF6028419; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:48:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530DA6230; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:47:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0DGln0X044581; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:47:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:47:49 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050113165741.Q802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Re: NFS Mount Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:48:00 -0000 Colin J. Raven wrote: I'm trying to mount my home directory on my office box (5.3-RELEASE) on my home box (5.3-RELEASE) and there is _no_ _way_ I have ever been able to make this work. /etc/exports on the NFS server is configured correctly (other exports to other boxen work fine) my entry reads: /usr/home/colin -mapall root 12.34.56.789 #home IP Output of `showmount -e` is more usefull, then we can see what is actually exported. NFS is very sensitive to errors in exports. You probably don't want to use "-mapall root", but rather "-maproot=root", see exports(5). Get rid of the comment, just to be sure. Sorry, this got lost as I was replacing my server, just managed to get the last dregs of data off the old one. >From /etc/exports on the office server /usr/home/colin -maproot=root 123.45.6.789 Second: What have you set in your rc.conf? Are all things up and running? >From /etc/rc.conf nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_client_flags="-n 4" # Flags to nfsiod (if enabled) from ps -aux |grep nfsiod root 60 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? IL Wed11AM 0:00.00 [nfsiod 0] root 61 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? IL Wed11AM 0:00.00 [nfsiod 1] root 62 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? IL Wed11AM 0:00.00 [nfsiod 2] root 63 0.0 0.0 0 12 ?? IL Wed11AM 0:00.00 [nfsiod 3] when - from the console as root - I do: mount -v office.nfs.server:/usr/home/colin /office-box You forgot to specify '-t nfs' or use 'mount_nfs' ? OK, I now tried mount_nfs -LT office.nfs.server:/usr/home/colin /home/colin/office-box (line wrapped in mail client only) I get rewarded with this message: First try: [udp] office.nfs.server:/usr/home/colin: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak This time: I get: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Program not registered quote: Today I encounted this error for the first time. I was compiling a kernel on my fast box and while I was waiting I set up the slow box. I did this: $ mount polo:/usr/src /usr/src polo:/usr/src: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak That confused me. I checked /var/log/messageson the NFS server: mountd[95]: mount request from 10.0.0.20 from unprivileged port Ahhh! I wasn't root when I tried to mount! I su'd to root, and all was well. quote-end. Well I was root when I did it, and that didn't seem to matter. I think it would help following an updated guide :-), I have had no problem exporting my /home. And, then post relevant settings from rc.conf, exports, `showmount -e` etc. OK, I'm in the FreeBSD handbook now PS: I note you are nfs-exporting across the internet, are you sure that is a good idea? Consider tunneling. I tried googling on that, I wasn't successful in finding anything relevant to FreeBSD, most of the stuff seems to be highly Linux specific. It's a good idea, and one I'd like to do, but first I'd just like to be able to prove it works...then work upwards to tunneling Just a thought here, I'm behind an ADSL router, should I be port forwarding some-port-or-other? This should be *so* simple, clearly I'm overlooking something - and knowing me - something obvious. Sorry for the delay in responding, but at least now I found my missing mail off the dead server. -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 16:55:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6218316A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:55:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (avs53.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.52.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A0743D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:55:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0DGt1uh011762 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:55:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <41E6A7E7.4090203@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:55:03 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050111) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "SRINIVASAN, KESHAV" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/663/Tue Jan 11 23:44:48 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound not working - none of the other posts helped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:55:18 -0000 SRINIVASAN, KESHAV wrote: > > I'm using the latest 5.3-stable build along with the Xfce4 window > manager. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy card. > I don't have the line 'device sound' in my kernel, but I have the > following two lines in my loader.conf file: > > sound_load="YES" > > snd_emu10k1_load="YES" > > Sound doesn't work in X (tried playing an MP3 using a graphical MP3 > player). It doesn't work in command line either (tried using a console > MP3 player as well). Any idea how to fix this? I don't use emu10k1 driver (emu10kx[1] instead), but since no one has replied yet (probably due to missing details): First I would check if modules are loaded and if card is recognized. Try following commands (you should see similar output with emu10k1): > blackacidevil: # kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > [...snip...] > 3 1 0xc0827000 11c90 snd_emu10kx.ko > [...snip...] Here I've got only 'snd_emu10kx' listed because 'sound' is compiled in the kernel. There should be module sound loaded on your system. > blackacidevil: # dmesg | grep pcm > pcm0: on emu10kx0 > pcm0: > blackacidevil: # cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) > Installed devices: > pcm0: on emu10kx0 (16p/1r/0v channels duplex default) If all is OK try adjusting volume with /usr/sbin/mixer. If not try 'pciconf -lv' and search for sound card information. Also check emu10kx website (below) - scroll down to 'Basic troubleshooting tips'. Hope that helps a bit. Karol [1] emu10kx can be found: http://chibis.persons.gfk.ru/audigy/ works great with 5.3-RELEASE-p4 and Audigy (class=0x040100 card=0x00511102 chip=0x00041102 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00) -- Karol Kwiatkowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 17:08:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3B516A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:08:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF87543D49 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:08:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so383096wri for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:08:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dNgYondLbeirwB/Z89YKwDMQrZIWL4Vrbi5ZU4e18QhNlkRc6YhsslJnJZQ9Hp2Hbn+59cgtii1N/gLg4QAkkT52tgLnwXRDg989McdOMl/UFfSNAMkXdf5wnR5+OwU6ulXVJLago58Uzy3150kM3ry0EvI2eUkwtV9V/dX8hkk= Received: by 10.54.10.3 with SMTP id 3mr98531wrj; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.33.61 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:08:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2b5f066d0501130908456944a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:08:26 -0500 From: Brian McCann To: Nelis Lamprecht , FreeBSD mailinglist In-Reply-To: <7cbadc87050113062773597549@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41E630C3.17475.915505A8@localhost> <7cbadc87050113062773597549@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Brian McCann List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:08:32 -0000 I've had similar problems with PuTTY as well...and upgrading PuTTY fixed the problem, but I'm curious about the whole PasswordAuthentication thing. I am testing out 5.3 now for our production environment, and I haven't touched the sshd config file, yet I can still login using usernames and passwords. How is this possible? And how would have upgradding PuTTY fixed this? Thanks, --Brian > Similiar problems have been noted on this list before with putty, the > solution was to set PasswordAuthentication to yes in your sshd_config > which is disabled by default in 5.3 > > Nelis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 17:17:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE9E16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:17:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABA543D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:17:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex.shaw@bulletonline.com) Received: from zaphod.bulletonline.co.uk ([81.171.196.56]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:17:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:21:39 +0000 From: Alex Shaw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050113172139.41413ca8@zaphod.bulletonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20050113153546.87725.qmail@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050113153546.87725.qmail@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> Organization: Bullet Online X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 17:17:34.0483 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5A7BE30:01C4F993] Subject: kernel panic booting 5.3 releng X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:17:03 -0000 Hi, Im experiancing a problem while updating my laptop to 5.3. I currently run 5.1-RELEASE version from a while back (should have updated a long time ago I know), on my Dell C840 Latitude. I followed the instructions on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html cvsuping from the RELENG_5_3 At the point where I reboot into single user mode it all falls over. The new GENERIC kernel fails to boot, stopping after the memory detection with a kernel panic page fault 12. The instruction pointer is 0x8:0xc0621604 Digging about I found the faq here http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/advanced.html#KERNEL-PANIC-TROUBLESHOOTING After following the instructions and running the following nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep 06216 I get the following two functions returned c0621664 t sysctl_bus c0621688 t sysctl_devices >From this information can anyone give me an idea of whats going wrong ?, or how/where I might go about fixing it ?. I have included the result of a boot attempt below. ... real memory = 536748032 (511MB) avail memory = 515559424 (491MB) kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x696370 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0621604 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0c21d48 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0c21d58 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, 10PL=0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 12 panic: page fault uptime: 1s I havent gone any further in the update process, as I can still boot my machine using the old kernel now saved to /boot/safe. I didnt want to run the install world if the new kernel wont boot, fearing it would update and overwrite crucial bits of the OS and prevent the laptop from booting the old kernel. I'm lost really in where to go from here or what the best options are to try and get the machine updated correctly. Thanks Alex -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 17:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DC816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:32:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D3D43D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:32:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [192.168.100.1]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AF5434FC1; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:32:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:32:17 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez To: Erik Norgaard Message-Id: <20050113183217.64d8f6e0.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <41E63E33.5010506@locolomo.org> References: <41E63E33.5010506@locolomo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.99-gtk2-20041024 (GTK+ 2.4.14; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__13_Jan_2005_18_32_17_+0100_=hcuKaSdt3Qk213F" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dhcpd for ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:32:42 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__13_Jan_2005_18_32_17_+0100_=hcuKaSdt3Qk213F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:24:03 +0100 Erik Norgaard wrote: Hi, > Does anyone know of alternatives? I would like to set up a lan with > ipv4/6 and an ipv6to4 gateway. How do you manage your ipv6 lan? I just run rtadvd on the box that handles my ipv6 tunnel (I'm using he.net for that) and let the other boxen autoconfigure. Since the addresses are generated using the MAC address I wrote them down and entered them in the dns config manually. Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 --Signature=_Thu__13_Jan_2005_18_32_17_+0100_=hcuKaSdt3Qk213F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5rCknLctrNyFFPERAhhCAJ4iL9X6bSNZrZeliRcC/P+biVuIVQCggiDI AFPBtNZABto7rFgQnipmWzQ= =aWso -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__13_Jan_2005_18_32_17_+0100_=hcuKaSdt3Qk213F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 17:57:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B25F16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:57:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61307.mail.yahoo.com (web61307.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D935D43D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:57:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 85319 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2005 17:57:50 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=lCkvuF/bCDqmNhf0G6EbxqMiGM0lAzFzB3Xa8Nt7/W60tPp8N7kGC8M7uI2yLApP+owXqqfH0oIYmKtXaKSdRjsB9nOd49kfsF4l2EPAOmIDnvG4EVn0gUzJ17PIJilTctN9i4UiHQIAKevfVP0s0w7XlkM9uNrC1ddVMUVqX0A= ; Message-ID: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.89.83] by web61307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:57:49 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:57:49 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:57:51 -0000 I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product this linux! Boris --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! – Get yours free! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:04:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A2416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:04:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnetit.com (mail.pcbcpa.com [204.8.195.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F4643D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:04:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jspector@jjschatzi.com) Received: from WorldClient ([127.0.0.1]) (authenticated user jspector@jjschatzi.com) by company.mail (company.mail [127.0.0.1]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.4.R) with ESMTP id 14-md50000001067.tmp for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:05:58 -0500 Received: from [192.135.209.8] via WorldClient with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:05:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:05:57 -0500 From: "Jeff Spector" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.8.4 X-Authenticated-Sender: jspector@jjschatzi.com X-Spam-Processed: company.mail, Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:05:58 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: jspector@jjschatzi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Download from Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:04:09 -0000 I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is there anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:07:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466B116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:07:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC3243D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:07:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0DI7E329816; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:07:14 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501131807.j0DI7E329816@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: hardcodeharry@yahoo.com (Boris Spirialitious) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:07:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> from "Boris Spirialitious" at Jan 13, 2005 09:57:49 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:07:23 -0000 > > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report > a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they > make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product > this linux! Glad you're happy. Sorry you can not seem to comprehend a user volunteer supported system. Bye, ////jerry > > Boris > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:08:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A45C16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D589743D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 46FA2512C4; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:08:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:08:39 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Boris Spirialitious Message-ID: <20050113180839.GA28984@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:40 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:57:49AM -0800, Boris Spirialitious wrote: > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I repo= rt > a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they=20 > make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product= =20 > this linux! It's wonderful that you're so happy now!! Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5rkmWry0BWjoQKURAoTUAKClLz6XyFq9RiSodgsHIgtytu4aUgCggcPF PY5IChgYhhCr5YmMls3qONM= =vRNM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:08:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B60516A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-140-118.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.140.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B568C43D60 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1FD2D155A8D; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:11:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB00B155A88; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:11:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:11:14 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: Boris Spirialitious In-Reply-To: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:50 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Boris Spirialitious wrote: > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report > a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they > make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product > this linux! > > Boris NEXT WE USE THIS LEENUX TO KILL MOOSE AND SQUIRREL! Trolls, they stay so crunchy in milk. *plonk* -- Duo Dispensing Cluepons, one moron at a time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:11:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF0816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:11:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.in.markiza.sk [62.168.76.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A1843D48 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:11:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@pleiades.aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F6DB84E for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65787-07 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (pleiades.markiza.sk [192.168.0.7]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DEAB818 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by pleiades.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1317E80B for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:11:16 +0100 (CET) Received: (from corwin@localhost) by pleiades.aeternal.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0DIBFpF014222 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:11:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from corwin) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:11:15 +0100 From: martin hudec To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113181115.GB13663@pleiades.aeternal.net> References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jho1yZJdad60DJr+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> X-Copyright: (C) 2004 Martin Hudec X-Operating-System: FreeBSD pleiades.aeternal.net 6.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.aeternal.net/corwin_aeternal.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: martin hudec List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:11:16 -0000 --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:57:49AM -0800 or thereabouts, Boris Spirialitiou= s wrote: > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I repo= rt > a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they=20 > make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product= =20 > this linux! Nice to hear that you've found for what you have been looking for :). Just three things: 1.) Maybe you could try to fix that problem (if it was really small) by yourself. Maybe you could be more regardful to others and their time. 2.) Looks like you gonna shit on linux when something larger will emerge, and it will, and there will be noone to help you. Maybe then you will revert back to Windows. 3.) Don't forget to shut the lights and close the door after you leave. Bon voyage, Martin =09 --=20 martin hudec * 421 907 303 393 * corwin@aeternal.net * http://www.aeternal.net "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible=20 exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws." Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5rnDZYEZIv+rgggRAnXpAKCY6p8DtnKtmEhvvaZrhdYZMNKs6wCfXo/h J7EuI5OFkrnjzaZkVdrTpdU= =7W/r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jho1yZJdad60DJr+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:11:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBC416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:11:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rtl.org (rtl-3.i2k.com [66.255.200.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECE143D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jstewart@rtl.org) Received: from mis3c.rtl.lan (rtl-2.i2k.com [66.255.200.206]) by mail.rtl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9531930AC8 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by mis3c.rtl.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFD6B128A73; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:12:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:12:12 -0500 From: Jason Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113181212.GB22282@rtl.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:11:53 -0000 On 13/01/05 09:57 -0800, Boris Spirialitious wrote: > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report > a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they > make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product > this linux! > > Boris You're Welcome! And thanks for taking the time to earn yourself an entry in my hall of fame!: :0: * ^From:.*hardcodeharry@yahoo.com* /dev/null Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:13:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C4D16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:13:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE9A43D46 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp helo=hexren.steenbuck.net) id 1Cp9Sw-0004Sa-1w; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:13:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:13:01 +0100 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1109136928.20050113191301@hexren.net> To: "Jeff Spector" In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download from Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:13:04 -0000 JS> I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is there JS> anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? JS> Jeff JS> _______________________________________________ JS> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list JS> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions JS> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------------------- I would guess that a standard CD, meaning ISO 9660 Compliant should be readable under nearly anything. (that is including FreeBSD :) Burning an ISO CD with Nero should do the trick. Hexren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:14:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B3C16A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6215343D3F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:14:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CFA435643C; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:14:02 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:14:02 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Jeff Spector Message-ID: <20050113181402.GB5481@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download from Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:14:04 -0000 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:05:57PM -0500, Jeff Spector wrote: > I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is there > anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? FreeBSD will recognise Joilet filesystems (ie Window's CDROM filesystems) just fine. Just use your vendor-supplied CD writing software with Windows. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone" - Al Capone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:14:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8B316A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:14:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B625C43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0DIEnnq028247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:14:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E6BA70.5010701@mac.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:14:08 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Spector References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=AWL,LOTS_OF_STUFF, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download from Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:14:54 -0000 Jeff Spector wrote: > I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is there > anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? Sure, popular Windows CD-ROM burning software like Adaptec's EZ/CD-Creator or Nero will produce ISO-9660 CD-ROM images which will work with FreeBSD, or almost anything else for that matter. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:16:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FEC16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:16:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3203943D5E for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:16:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 1E58E2841A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:16:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 8536328419; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:16:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4BC6230; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:16:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0DIGTUs045457; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:16:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:16:29 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Boris Spirialitious In-Reply-To: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050113190933.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:16:38 -0000 On Jan 13 at 09:57, Boris Spirialitious vomited up some 1's and 0's thusly: > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report > a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they > make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Odd indeed, if anyone was going to be "made fun of" it might as well be me since I'm such a n00b and incredibly limited in my thinking, yet strange to say, I have never noted this to be the case. Yet. (*ducks*) I assume the hardware you're attempting to run apps on under Linux is of absolutely *no* consequence whatsoever. Why ask? It doesn't work, so it must be the app. An unsuppported PCMCIA or PCI card? Noo, never happens! A sound card that doesn't work under Mandrooky15.9999.1? Can't possibly be. > Its like a real product this linux! I'm ecstatically happy that you have made such a revolutionary discovery and also that you are so delighted with it. Long may you continue to enjoy the fruits of your research into thoroughly supported OS's. Troll [burp] Kind Regards and penguin corpses, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:26:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B4816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:26:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao10.cox.net (lakermmtao10.cox.net [68.230.240.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0DB43D2F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:26:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwm@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from sentinelchicken.net ([68.226.91.117]) by lakermmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with SMTP <20050113182654.QWMF1657.lakermmtao10.cox.net@sentinelchicken.net> for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:26:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 6109 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Jan 2005 18:31:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:31:09 -0500 From: Jason Morgan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113183109.GA5013@sentinelchicken.net> References: <20050112184243.GA18515@sentinelchicken.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050112184243.GA18515@sentinelchicken.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: burncd: "device busy" error when writing .iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:26:57 -0000 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 01:42:43PM -0500, Jason Morgan wrote: > I am attempting to burn an .iso of the 5.3 mini distribution and keep > running into the following error: > > # burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso fixate > next writeable LBA 0 > writing from file 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso size 274400 KB > written this track 640 KB (0%) total 640 KB > only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes: Device busy > > fixating CD, please wait.. > > I have verified that the drive is working and is accessible. I have > tried different media and keep running into the same result. > > # dmesg | grep acd0 > acd0: DVDR at ata1-master PIO4 > > This is a new drive, that I just recently installed. > > Oh, I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p11 #7. > > Any suggestions? I've only burned CDs with FreeBSD a few times and > never on this system, so I'm kinda a newb. > > Thanks for your time. I finally solved the problem. I had to include "device atapicam" in my kernel, then used cdrecord instead of burncd, using the drive as a scsi device. Hope this info will help some newb in the future. Cheers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 18:38:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FFB16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:38:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnetit.com (mail.pcbcpa.com [204.8.195.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A0843D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:38:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jspector@jjschatzi.com) Received: from WorldClient ([127.0.0.1]) (authenticated user jspector@jjschatzi.com) by company.mail (company.mail [127.0.0.1]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.4.R) with ESMTP id 65-md50000001068.tmp for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:39:57 -0500 Received: from [192.135.209.8] via WorldClient with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:39:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:39:57 -0500 From: "Jeff Spector" To: "Chuck Swiger" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.8.4 In-Reply-To: <41E6BA70.5010701@mac.com> References: <41E6BA70.5010701@mac.com> X-Authenticated-Sender: jspector@jjschatzi.com X-Spam-Processed: company.mail, Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:39:57 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: jspector@jjschatzi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download from Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:38:37 -0000 Thanks to all of you who responded. I am newbie to FreeBSD and UNIX so I may be asking some silly questions. I will try to burn it again and check the parameters. Perhaps I did not mount my cd to the /CDROM folder correctly and that is why I can not ls the file. Thanks again jeff -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Swiger To: Jeff Spector Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:14:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Download from Windows > Jeff Spector wrote: > > I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is > there > > anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? > > Sure, popular Windows CD-ROM burning software like Adaptec's > EZ/CD-Creator or > Nero will produce ISO-9660 CD-ROM images which will work with FreeBSD, > or > almost anything else for that matter. > > -- > -Chuck > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:06:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8C416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:06:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6CA43D5A for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:06:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0DJ6LpR070497 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:06:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <35F05B14-6596-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: Richard Morse Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:06:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:06:22 -0000 Hi! I have a FreeBSD 5 STABLE computer which is acting as a server. Because it doesn't need it, I don't want to install all of X -- my goal is that there shouldn't be anything that I can't do over ssh from a command-line. Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me. I need to install the Oracle client software on this computer -- it won't actually be an Oracle server, but does need to be able to connect to various other servers (mostly from PHP and DBD::Oracle). Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X. But, I figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via `ssh -X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do the display. However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', when I `ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set. What is the minimum that I need to install to make this work? Thanks, Ricky Morse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:15:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448D616A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF24D43D39 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:10037 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpAR6-000J9x-VV for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:13 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001BD1A9A7 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:15:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03DB3700E for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:15:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E6C8B0.1020602@scii.nl> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:14:56 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <35F05B14-6596-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> In-Reply-To: <35F05B14-6596-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:14 -0000 Richard Morse wrote: > Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X. But, I > figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via `ssh > -X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do the > display. However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', when I > `ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set. did you enable X-forwarding in the sshd-config ? afaik indeed only the X-libraries are needed to make remote X over ssh work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:15:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D2016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D327943D46 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A493BD614; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:15:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEBE18DB0; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:15:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 06907-04; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:15:13 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF5618DAA; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:15:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E6C8BF.6060703@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:15:11 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Morse References: <35F05B14-6596-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> In-Reply-To: <35F05B14-6596-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:15:16 -0000 simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before installing any additional software. setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ | Your actual X-Server -´ If you are using a bourn shell you need to use export instead of setenv. Richard Morse schrieb: > Hi! I have a FreeBSD 5 STABLE computer which is acting as a server. > Because it doesn't need it, I don't want to install all of X -- my goal > is that there shouldn't be anything that I can't do over ssh from a > command-line. > > Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me. > > I need to install the Oracle client software on this computer -- it > won't actually be an Oracle server, but does need to be able to connect > to various other servers (mostly from PHP and DBD::Oracle). > > Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X. But, I > figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via `ssh > -X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do the > display. However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', when I > `ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set. > > What is the minimum that I need to install to make this work? > > Thanks, > Ricky Morse > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e6c6cb120362022840548! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:28:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250A116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:28:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (duey.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA77643D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:28:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B41D1FE28; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:28:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 68103-02-64; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:28:38 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E8AF31FE1E; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:28:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CA81A90C; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:28:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:28:38 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: sp0ng3b0b In-Reply-To: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20050113132628.F69304@duey.wolves.k12.mo.us> References: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wolves.k12.mo.us cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:28:42 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, sp0ng3b0b wrote: > I am getting a quote for a new server. > > I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 > fiber gigabit card. > > Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Opterons and FreeBSD > 5.3? FreeBSD 5.3/i386 and 5.3/amd64 both work just fine on my Tyan S2885 (Thunder K8W) with dual Opteron 244's and 2GB RAM. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon(at)wolves.k12.mo.us FreeBSD: The fastest, most open, and most stable OS on the planet - Available for IA32, IA64, AMD64, PC98, Alpha, and UltraSPARC architectures - PowerPC, ARM, MIPS, and S/390 under development - http://www.freebsd.org Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:34:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B9A16A4D1 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:34:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from atwns1.omniresources.com (atwns1.omniresources.com [69.48.112.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D2343D46 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:34:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpoland@omniresources.com) Received: from antioch.omniresources.com (antioch.atwdev.omniresources.com [192.168.254.77])j0DJYK7b037599; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@atwdev.omniresources.com) Received: from antioch.omniresources.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j0DJYKGu006584; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@antioch.omniresources.com) Received: (from dpoland@localhost)j0DJYKOM006583; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:20 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Richard Morse Message-ID: <20050113193419.GD5956@omniresources.com> References: <35F05B14-6596-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <35F05B14-6596-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:34:21 -0000 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 02:06:20PM -0500, Richard Morse wrote: > Hi! I have a FreeBSD 5 STABLE computer which is acting as a server. > Because it doesn't need it, I don't want to install all of X -- my goal > is that there shouldn't be anything that I can't do over ssh from a > command-line. > > Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me. > ... snip ... > > What is the minimum that I need to install to make this work? > On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on remote X servers. From a remote host use a command similar to: xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com /path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller where: xserver = your X workstation xclient = your server w/xorg-libraries installed -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:40:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD7C16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:40:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from e.volve.net (e.volve.net [66.79.187.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3352B43D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:40:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@e.volve.net) Received: (qmail 31602 invoked by uid 89); 13 Jan 2005 19:36:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.111?) (marc@e.volve.net@67.170.105.20) by e.volve.net with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 19:36:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <08247D99-659B-11D9-9E70-0003938234AE@e.volve.net> From: Evolve Networks Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:40:51 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: =?windows-1252?q?Apache_-_Bad_Output_Compression=3F_-__=93bad_?= =?windows-1252?q?server_response=94_=28NSURLErrorDomain=3A-1011=29?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:40:53 -0000 Hello! This is my first post here and fairly long but I've tried =20 everything I know how to do and haven't been able to track down how to =20= fix this error. Any help or suggestions are appreciated! Just upgraded apache, php, perl and having some strange occassional =20 problems. Pages are returned blank here and there. 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 #0: Apache/2.0.52 (FreeBSD) PHP/4.3.10 mod_ssl/2.0.52 OpenSSL/0.9.7e =20 mod_perl/1.99_18 Perl/v5.8.5 The only browser that returns an error is Safari, others just return a = =20 blank page =93bad server response=94 (NSURLErrorDomain:-1011) Looking around on the web I can't find a definitive solution but it =20 appears to be a problem with gzip compression going wrong. Has anyone seen this before and can offer a solution? I've rebuilt =20 apache, openssl, php, gzip multiple times with no luck. httpd-error log shows this [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 0190: 93 =20= 5f 2d cd 23 0b ce 73-db 6e 57 06 ee 8b ab 7a ._-.#..s.nW....z | [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01a0: 85 =20= e0 77 fa 9e a5 d6 ef-3a 38 93 a9 0f b8 52 29 ..w.....:8....R) | [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01b0: 0b =20= f4 a5 98 66 3b 2e 53-8e 75 2d 02 ae 40 2a ce ....f;.S.u-..@*. | [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01c0: 6e =20= 07 f8 18 8c 0e 33 91-d7 09 81 3b 51 60 de cd n.....3....;Q`.. | [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01d0: 1a =20= 2e 02 f5 4b be b0 e2-e4 a4 5e 0f 11 48 0f 27 ....K.....^..H.' | [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01e0: 85 =20= 6a 5a 1e 4c cb 8c b2-c0 5b 20 5c b2 4c fc 3a .jZ.L....[ \\.L.: | [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01f0: 32 =20= 33 6e 23n | [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1484): =20 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------=20= --+ Fatal error 'Unable to read from thread kernel pipe' at line 1100 in =20= file /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_kern.c (errno =3D 0) [Tue Jan 11 00:15:46 2005] [notice] child pid 1347 exit signal Abort =20= trap (6) /var/log/messages shows Jan 11 00:15:46 e kernel: pid 1347 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 6 Thanks! Marc Hauge Evolve Networks - Hosting, Design & Development for Business and =20 Individuals http://e.volve.net marc@e.volve.net 888.517.4159 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:41:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C309E16A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:41:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from longbow.arroway.com (peppercornbooks.com [66.252.129.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E984843D48 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:41:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: (qmail 30109 invoked by uid 1007); 13 Jan 2005 19:41:23 -0000 Received: from stormspotter@6Texans.net by longbow by uid 1004 with qmail-scanner-1.22-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(64.109.19.173):. Processed in 0.266523 secs); 13 Jan 2005 19:41:23 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-109-19-173.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net (HELO jacob.6texans.net) (64.109.19.173) by longbow.arroway.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 19:41:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:43:27 -0600 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113134327.62d95189@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:41:27 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:57:49 -0800 (PST) Boris Spirialitious wrote: > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I > report a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd > do they make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a > real product this linux! > > Boris Congratulations! For the first time in 6 years you have made me ashamed of the fact that I learned Linux before I learned FreeBSD. I'm glad the Linux lists I frequent aren't like that. To the rest of the list members... don't hold him against the rest of us Linux users. :-) Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:50:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5836916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:50:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.redshift.com (mail-pop.redshift.com [216.228.2.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD15843D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:50:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ginzadori@redshift.com) Received: (qmail 45139 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Jan 2005 19:50:11 -0000 Received: from 207.177.235.157 by mail-pop.redshift.com (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24st (clamdscan: 0.80/663. spamassassin: 2.64. perlscan: 1.24st. Clear:RC:1(207.177.235.157):. 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(VPS 0502-2, 01/11/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: problem with mozilla/foxfire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:50:08 -0000 Every time I click on MF, the screen goes black. Then white. Next, the desktop page icons appear without color. Then, the screen goes white. Next, the icons reappear and gradually fill in. Then, you can access MF. Any suggestions how to solve this problem which did not exist when I initially downloaded MF? Taantaan @ Ginzadori@Redshift.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:52:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B0A16A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:52:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A92743D66 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:52:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA52D1C0008E for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:52:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C8BA1C00081 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:52:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:52:10 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1242214203.20050113205210@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E65688.4010700@netfence.it> References: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> <41E58E53.7060606@netfence.it> <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> <41E65688.4010700@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:52:12 -0000 Andrea Venturoli writes: AV> Not exactly the same algorithm and on different set of data. But similar machine instructions, perhaps? AV> Yes. Just the contention for the FPU alone might have had the effect of single-threading the workload. That plus the SMP overhead might give you a zero or negative gain with HT. AV> In the past. AV> Nowadays they have some sort of protection. Unfortunately, AMD lost my business when the first processor nearly burst into flames. I try not to make the same mistake twice. And I've seen examples of AMD processors that _have_ burst into flames, so why take a chance? For me the weakest parts of any machine are the fans and the disk drives, because they have to move. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:57:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C8816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6374F43D53 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:57:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0709.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 86CDE1C000BD for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0709.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 61FD01C00098 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:07 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <182233524.20050113205707@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501131218.j0DCIMrx002556@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200501131218.j0DCIMrx002556@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:57:08 -0000 Olivier Nicole writes: ON> It was dead for good, well it is still dead as a matter of fact :) The AMD processor on my XP system overheated and stalled a few times, before I realized that the (brand-new) fan had failed. It still runs okay now, though, with a reliable fan. The other AMD processor, on my server, dramatically overheated for 8-12 hours at a time (process stuck in a loop--I never found out why). It damaged something that failed intermittently at first (segment violations in the kernel and in daemons that should never have such problems), then got worse and worse over a few days, until it failed completely. ON> So did I, so did I, but one sees strange things when buying a machine ON> from a cheap assembly shop (I was not the first buyer, I just got the ON> machine when it became unusable and then I was curious so I opened it, ON> what the first owner never did). I decided to build my own. I was tired of not knowing what was inside the machine, and finding out the hard and expensive way that many corners had been cut. I also got tired of having stacks and stacks of unused stereo mini-speakers, ultra-cheap keyboards, and equally cheap mice. Not to mention paying for Windows and a boatload of absolutely useless garbage software that I was just going to wipe away immediately in favor of FreeBSD (and I configure my FreeBSD systems to run FreeBSD exclusively--none of this dual-boot stuff). It gives me strange pleasure to think that the current server has never gotten anywhere near Windows. FreeBSD was the first OS to deflower the virgin disk drives. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:01:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E028E16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752AC43D58 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:01:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 4B7262841A for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:01:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9703728419 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:01:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18D16231 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:01:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0DK1JUh046504 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:01:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:01:19 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Memory Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:01:29 -0000 I'm wondering seriously about this top output: (2.6 GhZ Celeron 1GB RAM) Mem: 52M Active, 316M Inact, 134M Wired, 111M Buf, 494M Free Swap: 2023M Total, 2023M Free This does add up to the 1GB of memory that my 5.3-RELEASE box has, that's not my question. I always understood in FreeBSD that "Free Memory is wasted memory" I compared this to the 5.3-RELEASE box of a colleague. AMD Athlon (1800-something-or-other) also 1GB RAM Mem: 467M Active, 224M Inact, 201M Wired, 33M Cache, 111M Buf, 71M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 1672K Used, 4094M Free Other than the fact that swap doesn't add up (or doesn't seem to) the box of my colleague seems to have a more "sensible" (classic) amount of free memory. Is there something I can do in order to "optimize" - which in this case paradoxically would seem to mean "reduce" the amount of free memory? Regards & TIA, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:12:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4AF16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B435543D3F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so751260wri for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HfKKOaYMiyjIberpFX/4ixaKYxS+Dmb3LvoYaobqZFEBkLP7Rs8tZJgCTIvSp+cHpCxihxLLSefudBjAh5nzNXjZv0C3/nhdoc0FXPMr696FNcVwWmzfBdj4K4/Za0aIu3U9gkK53jleZ2tJwWDKVOK6+0pm3Fbxz62LFaDh4hI= Received: by 10.54.59.9 with SMTP id h9mr86826wra; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:12:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c3005011312124fc99035@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:12:51 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Subject: Re: Memory Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:54 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:01:19 +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > Is there something I can do in order to "optimize" - which in this case > paradoxically would seem to mean "reduce" the amount of free memory? Run more processes that do interesting things. Your top output looks fairly normal for a machine that's freshly rebooted and/or not terribly busy. Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:28:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE81B16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:28:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53802.mail.yahoo.com (web53802.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65CC443D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:28:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stigmata_blackangel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 47117 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2005 20:28:05 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=LagWyt6BxZbIu8OBm42hrhsThsrC+F2fN5RxThqNiylrwK6Ul7FtnDK5klVNqooiW2DVm0HFYYAUVWbdoPOngzwVd6qNnM+8kiWBF6v8uK5os4g+jPz5NYFHZCpOhSCKjg9ec9/S0LRdP3U2wP2anh8i2p1NsdFK3fVchSbu9fc= ; Message-ID: <20050113202805.47115.qmail@web53802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.9.155.250] by web53802.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:28:05 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:28:05 -0800 (PST) From: Gregor Mosheh To: "Colin J. Raven" , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Memory Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:28:07 -0000 > Is there something I can do in order to "optimize" - > which in this case > paradoxically would seem to mean "reduce" the amount > of free memory? The simple answer is: "Use it!" Exactly how depends on what you're running. Basically, check the docs for all the stuff your server is running and see what you can do to throw more memory at it. A lot of software has docs about performance tuning, and its memory usage (and performance) can usually be cranked up. If you're using a database server, check the DB's config file (postgresql.conf or my.cnf) and allocate a bunch of memory to buffers. If you're running Apache, you can increase the spare servers; if your Apache runs Perl CGI programs, you could consider using mod_perl. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:30:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C1416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5325D43D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:30:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0712.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 73F0E1C000BF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:30:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0712.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4AFBC1C000AC for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:30:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:30:36 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1493134889.20050113213036@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Memory Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:30:38 -0000 Colin J. Raven writes: CJR> I always understood in FreeBSD that "Free Memory is wasted memory" In any operating system, free memory is wasted memory. But if you suddenly need more memory and you don't have it, system performance will slide right down into the abyss, no matter which OS you are using ... and very often it's cost-effective to "waste" some extra memory to handle peak loads. Memory's cheap, anyway. CJR> I compared this to the 5.3-RELEASE box of a colleague. CJR> CJR> AMD Athlon (1800-something-or-other) also 1GB RAM CJR> CJR> Mem: 467M Active, 224M Inact, 201M Wired, 33M Cache, 111M Buf, 71M Free CJR> Swap: 4096M Total, 1672K Used, 4094M Free CJR> CJR> Other than the fact that swap doesn't add up (or doesn't seem to) the CJR> box of my colleague seems to have a more "sensible" (classic) amount of CJR> free memory. No, he doesn't have enough memory. A good operating system (which of course would include FreeBSD) can make the best of the memory it has under load, by judicious use of the swap file(s), but even the best swapping algorithms are no match for more RAM. You can never have too much memory. CJR> Is there something I can do in order to "optimize" - which in this CJR> case paradoxically would seem to mean "reduce" the amount of free CJR> memory? General rules: Reducing memory is never an optimization. Increasing memory never reduces performance. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:32:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA7B16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9575043D5C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) j0DKWBGM009657; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:32:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) In-Reply-To: <20050113193419.GD5956@omniresources.com> References: <20050113193419.GD5956@omniresources.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <3398E180-65A2-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Richard Morse Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:32:10 -0500 To: "Doug Poland" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:13 -0000 On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:34 PM, Doug Poland wrote: > On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on=20= > remote > X servers.=A0 =46rom a remote host use a command similar to: > > xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com=20 > /path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller Hi! When I do this, runInstaller complains that "$DISPLAY is not=20 set"... (but see my other responses for more info...) Thanks, Ricky= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:37:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A286116A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:37:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parrot.aev.net (host29-15.pool8174.interbusiness.it [81.74.15.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4D943D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:37:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-16-6.41-151.net24.it [151.41.6.16]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0DKmGCD020766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:48:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from netfence.it (xanatar.ventu [10.1.2.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DKZPUM042572 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:35:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <41E6DC30.3040501@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:08 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli Organization: NetFence User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040117 X-Accept-Language: it,en,fr,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> <41E58E53.7060606@netfence.it> <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> <41E65688.4010700@netfence.it> <1242214203.20050113205210@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1242214203.20050113205210@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:37:17 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Andrea Venturoli writes: > > AV> Not exactly the same algorithm and on different set of data. > > But similar machine instructions, perhaps? Yes, both numerical computations. Basically one thread would model geometry and the other would mesh it. Frequent stall would arise, as the two process would only by chance require the same time, even so the two CPUs were always at full load (!?!?!?). I also tried different combinations, e.g. three modelling threads and one mesher with, again, equal timings. BTW, it's worth to mention, I *have* to use a compiler that knows nothing about SSE or the like, so all is done with FPU instructions as in the old 387s... > Just the contention for the FPU alone might have had the effect of > single-threading the workload. I've come to the same conclusion. Still I can't put this together with 100% load on both processors. If, as someone said, there is only one FPU, *how* are these figures coming out??? I would have expected something like 50%-50% (instead of 100%-0% of the single threaded version). *If* there is only one FPU, I'd expect both virtual processors being frequently idle waiting for each other. > That plus the SMP overhead might give > you a zero or negative gain with HT. I tried a multithreaded version on a UP machine (nonsense, I know): the locking overhead is there, but very minimal: a process which takes 16 minutes will require, maybe, 3 seconds more. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:37:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E206A16A4D4 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:37:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9196B43D48 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:37:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) j0DKbNoj009686; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:37:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) In-Reply-To: <41E6C8BF.6060703@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> References: <41E6C8BF.6060703@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Richard Morse Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:37:22 -0500 To: "Daniel S. Haischt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:37:24 -0000 On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:15 PM, Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before > installing any additional software. > > setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > | > Your actual X-Server -=B4 Hi! I tried this (I had to use xhost first on my local machine), and=20 it sort of works. I get a lot of errors about fonts, and the Oracle=20 installer keeps throwing various java exceptions and not doing=20 anything, but I don't know if that's because of problems with the=20 installer or the X connection. The font errors I get are: Font specified in font.properties not found=20 [--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific] if you have any idea what I'm missing that would solve this... Thanks muchly, Ricky= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:43:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B3216A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:43:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1F43D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 1136D2841A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:44:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 64ABF28419; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:44:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5796230; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:43:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0DKhnKG046903; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:43:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:43:49 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Gregor Mosheh In-Reply-To: <20050113202805.47115.qmail@web53802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050113213206.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050113202805.47115.qmail@web53802.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Memory Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:43:56 -0000 The essence of the original question was: >> Is there something I can do in order to "optimize" - >> which in this case >> paradoxically would seem to mean "reduce" the amount >> of free memory? On Jan 13 at 15:12, Bryan Fullerton suggested: > > Run more processes that do interesting things. Your top output looks > fairly normal for a machine that's freshly rebooted and/or not > terribly busy. > On Jan 13 at 12:28, Gregor Mosheh also said in a similar vein: > > The simple answer is: "Use it!" Exactly how depends on > what you're running. Basically, check the docs for all > the stuff your server is running and see what you can > do to throw more memory at it. A lot of software has > docs about performance tuning, and its memory usage > (and performance) can usually be cranked up. > > If you're using a database server, check the DB's > config file (postgresql.conf or my.cnf) and allocate a > bunch of memory to buffers. If you're running Apache, > you can increase the spare servers; if your Apache > runs Perl CGI programs, you could consider using > mod_perl. OK, this makes sense! All the while I was attempting to be as "economical" as seemed possible under the circumstances...or as economical as various config settings seemed to allow. I guess this goes back to the era I only recently emerged from, where any machine I owned had considerably less resources to spare. Or more accurately, *no* resources to spare. Odd feeling knowing there's a ton of horsepower available that's not (yet) being utilized. Gentlemen, thank you for the feedback and guidance. My appreciation for this OS and this group grows exponentially - daily. Boris and fellow trolls, please take note. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Thu Jan 13 21:41:00 CET 2005 9:41PM up 1 day, 10:29, 6 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Today's random silliness: 1.00 VEB (Veneualan Bolivares) = 0.000626468 CAD (Candadian Dollars) http://www.xe.com: your universal useless currency conversion tool From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:48:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506E216A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:48:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philemon.caltech.edu (philemon.caltech.edu [131.215.158.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D681143D53 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:48:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.caltech.edu) Received: from philemon.caltech.edu (localhost.caltech.edu [127.0.0.1]) j0DKlOKX017276 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jd@philemon.caltech.edu) Received: (from jd@localhost) by philemon.caltech.edu (8.12.9p1/8.12.9/Submit) id j0DKlOw6017275 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:47:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:47:24 -0800 From: Paul Allen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113204724.GB16747@philemon.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: cross-building ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:48:26 -0000 Is there a command-line option to cause ports to be built for a different architecture than that of the native system? -Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:02:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852EE16A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:02:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from atwns1.omniresources.com (host-69-48-112-132.mil.choiceone.net [69.48.112.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB24A43D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:02:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpoland@omniresources.com) Received: from antioch.omniresources.com (antioch.atwdev.omniresources.com [192.168.254.77])j0DKh0k2037654; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:43:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@atwdev.omniresources.com) Received: from antioch.omniresources.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j0DKh0Gu006817; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:43:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@antioch.omniresources.com) Received: (from dpoland@localhost)j0DKh0XE006816; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:43:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:43:00 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Richard Morse Message-ID: <20050113204259.GA6793@omniresources.com> References: <20050113193419.GD5956@omniresources.com> <3398E180-65A2-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3398E180-65A2-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:02:56 -0000 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 03:32:10PM -0500, Richard Morse wrote: > On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:34 PM, Doug Poland wrote: > > >On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on > >remote X servers.? From a remote host use a command similar to: > > > >xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com /path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller > > Hi! When I do this, runInstaller complains that "$DISPLAY is not > set"... (but see my other responses for more info...) > You have xorg-libraries installed? X11Forwarding yes in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config? If you changed sshd_config did you restart sshd? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:05:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E864216A4D6 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:05:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABF343D5C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6EA8F18000B3 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:05:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4EAB118000AD for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:05:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:05:22 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1345467628.20050113220522@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E6DC30.3040501@netfence.it> References: <200501121049.j0CAnJQe028309@mp.cs.niu.edu> <828997113.20050112184556@wanadoo.fr> <41E58E53.7060606@netfence.it> <786252184.20050113014354@wanadoo.fr> <41E65688.4010700@netfence.it> <1242214203.20050113205210@wanadoo.fr> <41E6DC30.3040501@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:05:30 -0000 Andrea Venturoli writes: AV> I've come to the same conclusion. Still I can't put this together with AV> 100% load on both processors. If, as someone said, there is only one AV> FPU, *how* are these figures coming out??? The operating system tracks a dispatch of a processor into a process thread. After that, it has no idea whether the processor is actually doing anything or not--from the OS' standpoint, the processor is "running." So if one thread in one logical processor is actually executing instructions, and the other is stalled while waiting for a shared resource in the processor, the OS will still consider both threads to be "running" and will charge all of the elapsed time as processor time ... giving you a figure of 100% busy. AV> I would have expected something like 50%-50% (instead of 100%-0% of AV> the single threaded version). *If* there is only one FPU, I'd expect AV> both virtual processors being frequently idle waiting for each AV> other. Yes ... but the OS can't see that, and so OS monitoring tools can't report it. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:08:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A5916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:08:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C62F43D39 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:08:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8582E51241; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:08:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:08:44 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Paul Allen Message-ID: <20050113210844.GA78383@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050113204724.GB16747@philemon.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050113204724.GB16747@philemon.caltech.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross-building ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:08:45 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 12:47:24PM -0800, Paul Allen wrote: > Is there a command-line option to cause ports to be built > for a different architecture than that of the native system? This is not supported. Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5uNcWry0BWjoQKURAtzJAKCs8m+TjmLKX+LYkvo+ZiIyLVBbQACePPtj 9+bWXo0iYkIMy7uJ6d5wtV0= =SI6g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:24:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533F416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D1F43D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0DLO5w05435 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:24:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:24:05 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:07 -0000 I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that people can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am doing, and recommend a course of action that will get me back to where I want to be. I have a Compaq Armada M700 on which I had installed FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE (as of February, 2004) and life was pretty good. There were a few annoyance, but it was a useful working environment. I didn't have Java running, I probably needed to find a better browser than Konqeror, and the sound, touch-pad, and suspend/resume functions didn't work, so there were things I would have liked to have improved. All that changed when I tried to install Win98SE in the lower partition I had reserved for that purpose. It totally trashed my / (with /usr) filesystem, though leaving /home (and /var) alone. [ I bit the bullet and bought Windows XP Home, which installed fine - but that's for my kids - I want my FreeBSD! ] This seemed like a good time to move forward. I had a set of 5.2.1 CD's, so I installed them. Things didn't work very well. Part of it was ACPI problems I didn't correctly recognize, but my biggest problem was that I couldn't get OpenOffice to install, because it had moved to Xorg from XFree86, along with FreeBSD 5.3. I had a slower, desktop machine with a plenty of disk space, so I loaded up the source distribution from 5.2.1, cvsup'ed to -STABLE, did a buildworld, buildkernel, mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj via NFS, and upgraded the laptop to 5.3. Since then, I've been playing a challenging game of "update the package" to try to get all the requisite packages for Xorg and kde in place (not to mention OpenOffice, and I'm not even there yet). Have you already guessed my problem? My / and /usr single filesystem, which is 1.5Gb in size, that had been about 80% full with XFree86, kde, fvwm, and OpenOffice is now 101% full and I haven't even gotten all of kde installed (and all the dependent packages), let alone OpenOffice. I see my options as this: 1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install kde-lite instead, and rip out the packages I don't need (theoretically possible - but feasible?) 2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the installworld and installkernel again, and then do the install of the kde (or kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do I need to make / and /usr?) 3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the installation, using only the distributions I need, and hope it fits. Other suggestions? Anything obvious I'm missing? You folks have been extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good solution I'm just missing! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:24:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802E816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8C0343D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 3744 invoked by uid 55300); 13 Jan 2005 21:24:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:24:24 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Keith Bottner In-Reply-To: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:25 -0000 Hi Keith, I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be interested to know what others might have found effective. I have a number of different versions of the auto-tools on my machine, almost certainly as a result of installing various ports. It is worth note that one can glean some info on how the FreeBSD ports infrastructure handles this problem by looking at /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.autotools.mk. For my part, I found the details to be too 'ugly' to attempt to emulate in my work, but they are interesting all-the-same. To date I have not resorted to installing any custom, system-wide builds of any of these tools for fear of harming my ability to use the ports infrastructure and out of a desire to reduce future maintenance considerations. For the most part, I have reasonable luck simply calling the desired tool by it's installed name. (i.e., 'autoconf259' instead of 'autoconf'.) Most of these tools know where to obtain their helper files due to the PREFIX they were assigned when they themselves were 'built'. I have run into situations where aclocal got confused by multiple macro definitions (for some libtool macros in my case.) That was a bit hard to debug, and it may be rare as my research didn't turn up too many references. I think it pertinent to expand this question to freebsd-questions to include a wider audience. Certainly these are FreeBSD specific considerations, and probably not extremely arcane ones. Thanks, - Tom On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote: > First let me say that I am definitely a newbie to FreeBSD but not to Linux > or Windows. > > I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble > identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like. > Specifically I am trying to get the Apache log4cxx source to compile and of > course I am running into problems with automake, aclocal, autoheader, > autoconf and libtoolize not being in the path. I did chase them down in the > /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and similar directories but placing them in > the path still generates errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are > missing at various stages). > > I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting up > FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across disparate > projects? > > I have never had this problem on Linux as they have always been properly > setup on install and I want to get FreeBSD going and do it the way that is > accepted as the standard so that later generalizing my project with autoconf > will be standardized as well. > > I appreciate any feedback and realize this is a rather broad question, but > hey I said I was new to FreeBSD. > > Keith > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:28:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2629F16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:28:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philemon.caltech.edu (philemon.caltech.edu [131.215.158.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012EA43D55 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:28:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.caltech.edu) Received: from philemon.caltech.edu (localhost.caltech.edu [127.0.0.1]) j0DLRHKX017421; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:27:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jd@philemon.caltech.edu) Received: (from jd@localhost) by philemon.caltech.edu (8.12.9p1/8.12.9/Submit) id j0DLRHNb017420; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:27:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:27:17 -0800 From: Jonathan Dama To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20050113212717.GC16747@philemon.caltech.edu> References: <20050113204724.GB16747@philemon.caltech.edu> <20050113210844.GA78383@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050113210844.GA78383@xor.obsecurity.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross-building ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:28:19 -0000 Thanks for clarifying that I wasn't just missing the obvious. I suppose that's not surprising given all the complicated things some builds do to configure themselves based on testing the environment. What about the "simple" case of building ia32 on an amd64 host? (Assuming WITH_LIB32 has been set in make.conf) I have the impression that amd64 has been setup with an eye toward running a pure amd64 setup, but one of the principle benefits of amd64 is it's support for i386 binaries and libraries... It would be nice (and probably easier on many ports) if the system was geared to have more ia32 centric userland--which I might add is the tradition for mang 64-bit OSs. Having my 64-bit ls is great and all, but really unnecessary + wasteful. Are these sorts of changes in the pipeline or? -Paul >From Kris Kennaway , Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:08:44PM -0800: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 12:47:24PM -0800, Paul Allen wrote: > > Is there a command-line option to cause ports to be built > > for a different architecture than that of the native system? > > This is not supported. > > Kris -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:32:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A91916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:32:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7AC43D55 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:32:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <200501132132390120016726e>; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:32:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 11953 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 21:32:35 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 21:32:35 -0000 Message-ID: <41E6EA27.2080303@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:37:43 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4AF60EDFFCFD01730F39B7A6" Subject: Multihomed ISC-DHCPD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:32:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4AF60EDFFCFD01730F39B7A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First off, my problem is that I can't get dhcpd to reply to a request on a new subnet/interface. I have an isc-dhcpd server running on my gateway box. I just added a new nic to connect a wifi ap. I added this subnet declaration: subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.254; option routers 192.168.1.1; option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1; option domain-name "wifi"; } to my dhcpd.conf. I reran dhcpd as: dhcpd -q -f rl0 fxp0 fxp0, the new interface is configured as: inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 I added a firewall rule to allow all traffic via the interface and to log it. When I boot the AP, I get this in my log: Jan 13 15:53:51 fw /kernel: ipfw: 1910 Accept UDP 0.0.0.0:68 255.255.255.255:67 in via fxp0 Jan 13 15:53:51 fw /kernel: ipfw: 1910 Accept ICMP:8.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.254 out via fxp0 Jan 13 15:53:55 fw /kernel: ipfw: 1910 Accept UDP 0.0.0.0:68 255.255.255.255:67 in via fxp0 Jan 13 15:54:18 fw last message repeated 2 times My netstat -r contains: 192.168.1 link#3 UC 1 0 fxp0 192.168.1.1 00:a0:c9:1a:a6:03 UHLW 0 192 lo0 although it sometimes contains a line for 192.168.1.254 via link#3 Any ideas? --------------enig4AF60EDFFCFD01730F39B7A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB5uosmcXjc1XBrAQRAvH/AJ4oRmrLb7Jd3ABd5DmSaXlNINSr5wCeJaLJ JZNjjPKoUtuXiupTT/NQJ3A= =PuRQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4AF60EDFFCFD01730F39B7A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:35:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D8216A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:35:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from whisk.dreamhost.com (whisk.dreamhost.com [205.196.208.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D2443D4C for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:35:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.1.203] (adsl-68-76-44-196.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [68.76.44.196]) by whisk.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412D3175105; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:35:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <41E6D0EC.1020404@redshift.com> References: <41E6D0EC.1020404@redshift.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <01BDBF3F-65AB-11D9-8070-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:35:12 -0500 To: William Cox X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with mozilla/foxfire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:35:16 -0000 On Jan 13, 2005, at 2:50 PM, William Cox wrote: > Any suggestions how to solve this problem which did not exist when I > initially downloaded MF? Just a guess, but one possibility is a corrupted file which is used by the app, such as a preferences file. You might try renaming them and starting it again. Does it work as expected if you login as another user? TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:37:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE8B16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:37:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7ED443D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:37:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9B37B5145A; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:37:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:37:42 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jonathan Dama Message-ID: <20050113213742.GA87254@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050113204724.GB16747@philemon.caltech.edu> <20050113210844.GA78383@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050113212717.GC16747@philemon.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050113212717.GC16747@philemon.caltech.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: cross-building ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:37:47 -0000 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:27:17PM -0800, Jonathan Dama wrote: > Thanks for clarifying that I wasn't just missing the > obvious. I suppose that's not surprising given all the > complicated things some builds do to configure themselves > based on testing the environment. >=20 > What about the "simple" case of building ia32 on an amd64 > host? (Assuming WITH_LIB32 has been set in make.conf) >=20 > I have the impression that amd64 has been setup with an=20 > eye toward running a pure amd64 setup, but one of the > principle benefits of amd64 is it's support for i386 > binaries and libraries... >=20 > It would be nice (and probably easier on many ports) if the > system was geared to have more ia32 centric userland--which > I might add is the tradition for mang 64-bit OSs. Having my > 64-bit ls is great and all, but really unnecessary + > wasteful. >=20 > Are these sorts of changes in the pipeline or? I don't believe anyone is working on it, but you can always just use precompiled packages. Kris --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5uomWry0BWjoQKURAgfYAJ9/ik8A2ujq9Lgji3cEnrJ6wvMM/ACg0Qf2 yOgz0Y7SES90yLqPGeACiUM= =Yp9q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:41:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0DA16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:41:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B1E43D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:41:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex.shaw@bulletonline.com) Received: from zaphod.bulletonline.co.uk ([82.43.60.198]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:42:09 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:46:15 +0000 From: Alex Shaw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050113214615.1c0b5864@zaphod.bulletonline.co.uk> Organization: Bullet Online X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 21:42:09.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC2D4A80:01C4F9B8] Subject: kernel panic booting 5.3 releng X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:41:39 -0000 Hi, Im experiancing a problem while updating my laptop to 5.3. I currently run a 5.1-RELEASE version from a while back (should have updated a long time ago I know), on my Dell C840 Latitude. I followed the instructions on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html cvsuping from RELENG_5_3 At the point where I reboot into single user mode it all falls over. The new GENERIC kernel fails to boot, stopping after the memory detection with a kernel panic page fault 12. The instruction pointer is 0x8:0xc0621604 Digging about I found the faq here http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/advanced.html#KERNEL-PANIC-TROUBLESHOOTING After following the instructions and running the following nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep 06216 I get the following two functions returned c0621664 t sysctl_bus c0621688 t sysctl_devices >From this information can anyone give me an idea of whats going wrong ?, or how/where I might go about fixing it ?. I have included the result of a boot attempt below. ... real memory = 536748032 (511MB) avail memory = 515559424 (491MB) kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x696370 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0621604 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0c21d48 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0c21d58 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, 10PL=0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 12 panic: page fault uptime: 1s I havent gone any further in the update process, as I can still boot my machine using the old kernel now saved to /boot/safe. I didnt want to run the install world if the new kernel wont boot, fearing it would update and overwrite crucial bits of the OS preventing the laptop from booting the old kernel. I'm lost really in where to go from here or what the best options are to try and get the machine updated correctly. Thanks Alex -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:47:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A765B16A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:47:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD4C43D1F; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:47:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a025.otenet.gr [212.205.215.25]) j0DLlbGh023904; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:38 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0DLla6o014741; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0DLlaTi014736; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:35 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Huppi Message-ID: <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: Keith Bottner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:47:45 -0000 PLEASE DON'T TOP-POST. THANK YOU :-) On 2005-01-13 16:24, Tom Huppi wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote: >> I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble >> identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like. >> [...] I did chase them down in the /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and >> similar directories but placing them in the path still generates >> errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are missing at various >> stages). >> >> I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting >> up FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across >> disparate projects? > > I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be > interested to know what others might have found effective. I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1]. The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant manual tweaking of the source. The best way to do that is to use the same version of autotools on all those platforms. So, I install the latest possible versions of these tools with --prefix=/opt/autotools on all the machines I have to use, and stop worrying about all the details. When I have to use the tools, I add /opt/autotools/bin at the beginning of my PATH. When I don't need them, I remove /opt/autotools/bin from my path. This has worked wonders so far. - Giorgos [1] The operative keyword here is "at work". I don't use autoconf and friends for programs I write on my own. I prefer bsd.*.mk for that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:08:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E2516A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:08:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76C543D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:08:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CpD8u-0000pU-P3; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:08:36 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:08:53 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc1a514ca159ea69511f250b70eac7582e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: John Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:08:38 -0000 On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:24 pm, John wrote: > I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that people > can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am doing, and > recommend a course of action that will get me back to where I want > to be. > > I have a Compaq Armada M700 on which I had installed FreeBSD > 4.9-STABLE (as of February, 2004) and life was pretty good. There > were a few annoyance, but it was a useful working environment. I > didn't have Java running, I probably needed to find a better browser > than Konqeror, and the sound, touch-pad, and suspend/resume functions > didn't work, so there were things I would have liked to have > improved. > > All that changed when I tried to install Win98SE in the lower > partition I had reserved for that purpose. It totally trashed my > / (with /usr) filesystem, though leaving /home (and /var) alone. > [ I bit the bullet and bought Windows XP Home, which installed > fine - but that's for my kids - I want my FreeBSD! ] > > This seemed like a good time to move forward. I had a set of 5.2.1 > CD's, so I installed them. > > Things didn't work very well. Part of it was ACPI problems I didn't > correctly recognize, but my biggest problem was that I couldn't get > OpenOffice to install, because it had moved to Xorg from XFree86, > along with FreeBSD 5.3. > > I had a slower, desktop machine with a plenty of disk space, so > I loaded up the source distribution from 5.2.1, cvsup'ed to -STABLE, > did a buildworld, buildkernel, mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj via > NFS, and upgraded the laptop to 5.3. Since then, I've been playing > a challenging game of "update the package" to try to get all the > requisite packages for Xorg and kde in place (not to mention > OpenOffice, and I'm not even there yet). > > Have you already guessed my problem? My / and /usr single > filesystem, which is 1.5Gb in size, that had been about 80% full with > XFree86, kde, fvwm, and OpenOffice is now 101% full and I haven't > even gotten all of kde installed (and all the dependent packages), > let alone OpenOffice. > > I see my options as this: > 1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install kde-lite > instead, and rip out the packages I don't need (theoretically > possible - but feasible?) > 2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the > installworld and installkernel again, and then do the install of the > kde (or kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do I need > to make / and /usr?) > 3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the installation, > using only the distributions I need, and hope it fits. > > Other suggestions? Anything obvious I'm missing? You folks have > been extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good solution > I'm just missing! 1. Upgrade the hard drive. 2. If you're going to install Windows, install it before you install FreeBSD. 3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather than 5.2.1. 4. Building OpenOffice requires massive resources. Use the binary packages. 5. When you install from ports, make sure you "make install clean" to remove working files when they're no longer needed. 6. Use portupgrade (in the ports) to upgrade applications; but exclude OpenOffice. Not only can portupgrade take care of dependencies, but it has options to look for binary packages online before opting to compile from source. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335E916A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:13:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E943F43D3F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:13:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050113221321013009a4eqe>; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:13:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 16861 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 22:13:16 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 22:13:16 -0000 Message-ID: <41E6F3AD.4090404@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:18:21 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E6EA27.2080303@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <41E6EA27.2080303@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2F0B62CB00261B4B0491A740" Subject: Re: Multihomed ISC-DHCPD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:13:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2F0B62CB00261B4B0491A740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I get this from tcpdump when I boot the AP: 17:07:14.250764 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0xa2dc15d6 [|bootp] (DF) 17:07:14.251781 arp who-has 192.168.1.254 tell 192.168.1.1 17:07:15.000903 192.168.1.1.bootps > 192.168.1.254.bootpc: xid:0xa2dc15d6 Y:192.168.1.254 S:192.168.1.1 file ""[|bootp] [tos 0x10] 17:07:18.251051 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:4 [|bootp] (DF) 17:07:18.251961 192.168.1.1.bootps > 192.168.1.254.bootpc: xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:4 Y:192.168.1.254 S:192.168.1.1 [|bootp] [tos 0x10] 17:07:25.251540 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:11 [|bootp] (DF) 17:07:25.252300 192.168.1.1.bootps > 192.168.1.254.bootpc: xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:11 Y:192.168.1.254 S:192.168.1.1 [|bootp] [tos 0x10] 17:07:33.252146 arp who-has 192.168.0.225 tell 192.168.0.225 <-- ap uses default address of 192.168.0.255. 17:07:33.259898 arp who-has firewall. tell 192.168.0.225 17:07:41.252748 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:27 [|bootp] (DF) 17:07:41.253484 192.168.1.1.bootps > 192.168.1.254.bootpc: xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:27 Y:192.168.1.254 S:192.168.1.1 [|bootp] [tos 0x10] --------------enig2F0B62CB00261B4B0491A740 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB5vO0mcXjc1XBrAQRAs80AJ0fLYmvnEQUJtkEPhwrz5njWQtPiQCfbHUw K8qV0u+E58em9xpeS5KDBi8= =4xea -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2F0B62CB00261B4B0491A740-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:18:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBFA16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA5C43D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0DMIp005701; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:18:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:18:51 -0600 From: John To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com>; from algould@datawok.com on Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 04:08:53PM -0600 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:56 -0000 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 04:08:53PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:24 pm, John wrote: > > I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that people > > can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am doing, and > > recommend a course of action that will get me back to where I want > > to be. [ deleted for brevity ] > > I see my options as this: > > 1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install kde-lite > > instead, and rip out the packages I don't need (theoretically > > possible - but feasible?) > > 2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the > > installworld and installkernel again, and then do the install of the > > kde (or kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do I need > > to make / and /usr?) > > 3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the installation, > > using only the distributions I need, and hope it fits. > > > > Other suggestions? Anything obvious I'm missing? You folks have > > been extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good solution > > I'm just missing! > > 1. Upgrade the hard drive. Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to support the environment I want? Maybe... > 2. If you're going to install Windows, install it before you install > FreeBSD. Yup - learned THAT the hard way! We do need to update the handbook and other documentation in this regard - the current docs give the impression that the only problem is that the boot manager gets lost. I was, therefore, entirely ready for that, and had everything at hand to put it back - only to discover after putting the boot manager back that the problem was far, far worse than that. Of course, that may be due to the ancient Windows I was installing. > 3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather than > 5.2.1. Sigh. OK. I'll have to see if I can build that from what I have already... Pointers to a way to build a distribution set for 5.3-STABLE from what I have built? > 4. Building OpenOffice requires massive resources. Use the binary > packages. Oh, definitely! That is what I intend to do. Since I am using OpenOffice, should I use kde-lite instead of the full kde installation? > 5. When you install from ports, make sure you "make install clean" to > remove working files when they're no longer needed. OK, but that system, where I have the sources and all, is not hurting for space. > 6. Use portupgrade (in the ports) to upgrade applications; but exclude > OpenOffice. Not only can portupgrade take care of dependencies, but it > has options to look for binary packages online before opting to compile > from source. Ah hah! This is a trick I didn't know. I'll learn that. Thanks! > Best of luck, > > Andrew Gould Thank you, Andrew. I'd still like to know why the disk footprint for what I want seems to have grown to dramatically. My hunch is that when I did the "installworld" I got a bunch of "distributions" (to use the install terminology) that I didn't intend, but that's just speculation on my part. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:27:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0092316A56D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:27:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from symler1.mail.eds.com (symler1.mail.eds.com [207.169.189.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4204243D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:27:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siegfried.pietralla@eds.com) Received: from symlir1.mail.eds.com (symlir1.mail.eds.com [192.85.216.71]) j0DMR1Bp013772; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:27:02 +1100 Received: from symlir1.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j0DMQvHn029650; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:26:57 +1100 Received: from ausym000.apac.corp.eds.com ([134.251.177.117]) j0DMQvUt029645; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:26:57 +1100 Received: by ausym000.apac.corp.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:27:04 +1100 Message-ID: From: "Pietralla, Siegfried P" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:26:53 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: 'Richard Morse' Subject: RE: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:27:05 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Richard Morse > Sent: Friday, 14 January 2005 07:37 > To: Daniel S. Haischt > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X? >=20 >=20 > On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:15 PM, Daniel S. Haischt wrote: >=20 > > simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before > > installing any additional software. > > > > setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > | > > Your actual X-Server -=B4 >=20 > Hi! I tried this (I had to use xhost first on my local machine), and = > it sort of works. I get a lot of errors about fonts, and the Oracle=20 > installer keeps throwing various java exceptions and not doing=20 > anything, but I don't know if that's because of problems with the=20 > installer or the X connection. The font errors I get are: >=20 > Font specified in font.properties not found=20 > [--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific] >=20 > if you have any idea what I'm missing that would solve this... >=20 > Thanks muchly, > Ricky hi ricky, this is the way to go - you definitely don't need anything X related on = the server - I've just done this recently ( albeit with hpux and reflection = X ). the install notes should tell you what version of java you need and = that should help you fix up those errors. the font thing I can't help you = with - perhaps you just need to install a font with those properties? or make = sure all your fonts are on the right path / list / whatever ? also, you could just use another X server - do you have a different = working unix workstation ( sgi, sun, hp, etc )? or even a p.c. running = reflection X or exceed. but note that I can't get cygwin to work for me - I only get about a quarter of the initial installer screen to show up so I have to = kill it - although it's still worth a quick try if you have a windows box. hth, siegfried. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:30:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7518F16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outmx023.isp.belgacom.be (outmx023.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.2.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933AB43D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lindic@tiscali.be) Received: from outmx023.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id j0DMU44b017354 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:30:04 +0100 (envelope-from ) Received: from fred (252-62.244.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.244.62.252]) with SMTP id j0DMU0fk017316 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:30:00 +0100 (envelope-from ) Message-ID: <000e01c4f9bf$6b2cbba0$2700000a@fred> From: "Frederic R." 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(VPS 0502-2, 11/01/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:09 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:33:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8C416A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:33:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E400743D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:33:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 26480 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 22:33:26 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jan 2005 22:33:26 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 20D7468; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:33:23 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Static" References: <003101c4f90d$8471d440$9601a8c0@staticbasement> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 13 Jan 2005 17:33:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <003101c4f90d$8471d440$9601a8c0@staticbasement> Message-ID: <444qhlgdsd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: login.conf problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:33:31 -0000 "Static" writes: > Im trying to add a class that will limit processes and session limits, I added this > ircd:\ > :tc=default:\ > :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ > :welcome=/etc/motd:\ > :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K:\ > :path=~/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin:\ > :manpath=/usr/share/man /usr/local/man:\ > :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\ > :ftp-chroot:\ > :cputime=1h30m:\ > :datasize=100M:\ > :vmemoryuse=100M:\ > :stacksize=2M:\ > :memorylocked=4M:\ > :memoryuse=8M:\ > :filesize=100M:\ > :coredumpsize=8M:\ > :openfiles=24:\ > :maxproc=32:\ > :priority=0:\ > :requirehome:\ > :idletime=30m:\ > :sessionlimit=2:\ > :umask=002:\ > :ignoretime@:\ > Then I proceed to run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf" then I make a user with the login class of ircd, but the session limits dont seem to work, was curious if anyone out there knew how to fix that Which ones don't work? [Not all of them are implemented.] How did you add the new user? Did the password database get rebuilt? Do the limits appear to be changed in the output of limits(1)? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:51:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325DC16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:51:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8972543D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:51:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so269658rna for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:51:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lNoTxaWWN3X72lbGQwtu+Rw8VdErWQqt5SIchXlPn6geufR79nw3D0xRDso0Y/dfoMPX7iIq2pgPYkGIFHJl9WXNJf41qc7Nq7J2zyjroVEErwyeUpTKO8MN/6m/McK+rulaj2gCg6lcfhQ8eLbQQXXcfzEXj5AVgZ7YGs/Hp0E= Received: by 10.38.77.70 with SMTP id z70mr256998rna; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.45 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:51:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a050113145153a03dbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:51:36 +0000 From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <444qhlgdsd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <003101c4f90d$8471d440$9601a8c0@staticbasement> <444qhlgdsd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> cc: Static Subject: Re: login.conf problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:51:40 -0000 I think the problem here is login.conf cannot do things like limit cpu% it just kills the process when it reaches the cpu time used, also on limiting processes say if you want to limit a shell user to run 3 bg processes you cant limit to 3 processes in login.conf because it will break fg processes for things like running make. In this scenarion I believe you need some custom type of script to do what you are looking for. Chris On 13 Jan 2005 17:33:22 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Static" writes: > > > Im trying to add a class that will limit processes and session limits, I added this > > ircd:\ > > :tc=default:\ > > :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ > > :welcome=/etc/motd:\ > > :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K:\ > > :path=~/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin:\ > > :manpath=/usr/share/man /usr/local/man:\ > > :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\ > > :ftp-chroot:\ > > :cputime=1h30m:\ > > :datasize=100M:\ > > :vmemoryuse=100M:\ > > :stacksize=2M:\ > > :memorylocked=4M:\ > > :memoryuse=8M:\ > > :filesize=100M:\ > > :coredumpsize=8M:\ > > :openfiles=24:\ > > :maxproc=32:\ > > :priority=0:\ > > :requirehome:\ > > :idletime=30m:\ > > :sessionlimit=2:\ > > :umask=002:\ > > :ignoretime@:\ > > Then I proceed to run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf" then I make a user with the login class of ircd, but the session limits dont seem to work, was curious if anyone out there knew how to fix that > > Which ones don't work? [Not all of them are implemented.] > > How did you add the new user? Did the password database get rebuilt? > > Do the limits appear to be changed in the output of limits(1)? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 22:55:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3625E16A57E for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:55:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pluto.phpwebhosting.com (pluto.phpwebhosting.com [69.0.209.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C9FF43D46 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: (qmail 20559 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 22:55:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rand) (69.152.101.1) by pluto.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 22:55:10 -0000 From: "Keith Bottner" To: "'Giorgos Keramidas'" , "'Tom Huppi'" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:55:15 -0600 Organization: Barking Lizards Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> Thread-Index: AcT5uY6anJToVyYkQM6Bq3pRJ1NIvQACO+Mg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20050113225512.7C9FF43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "'Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org'" Subject: RE: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:55:13 -0000 All of the information both of your provided is helpful. I will have to investigate further. Some of the information that Tom specified helped me to track down the problem. Basically I have multiple versions of the tools installed and there are two different directories with aclocal m4 files. If I explicitly change the shell script to also include the other directory then everything seems to continue on until compile time when there is a header that cannot be found. It appears this header alloca.h is located in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sort/alloca.h. I was just wondering if Giorgos method would also alleviate these problems or if this is just par for the course when using projects that people have not moved into the ports collection? Keith -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Giorgos Keramidas Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:48 PM To: Tom Huppi Cc: Keith Bottner; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling PLEASE DON'T TOP-POST. THANK YOU :-) On 2005-01-13 16:24, Tom Huppi wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote: >> I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble >> identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like. >> [...] I did chase them down in the /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and >> similar directories but placing them in the path still generates >> errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are missing at various >> stages). >> >> I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting >> up FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across >> disparate projects? > > I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be > interested to know what others might have found effective. I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1]. The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant manual tweaking of the source. The best way to do that is to use the same version of autotools on all those platforms. So, I install the latest possible versions of these tools with --prefix=/opt/autotools on all the machines I have to use, and stop worrying about all the details. When I have to use the tools, I add /opt/autotools/bin at the beginning of my PATH. When I don't need them, I remove /opt/autotools/bin from my path. This has worked wonders so far. - Giorgos [1] The operative keyword here is "at work". I don't use autoconf and friends for programs I write on my own. I prefer bsd.*.mk for that. _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 23:00:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3137316A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:00:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9238743D31 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [63.228.14.243] (63-228-14-243.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.243]) (authenticated bits=0)j0DN0afx009202; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:00:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-648487703" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:00:22 -0600 To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Memory Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:00:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-648487703 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 13, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Colin J. Raven wrote: > I'm wondering seriously about this top output: > > (2.6 GhZ Celeron 1GB RAM) > > Mem: 52M Active, 316M Inact, 134M Wired, 111M Buf, 494M Free > Swap: 2023M Total, 2023M Free > > This does add up to the 1GB of memory that my 5.3-RELEASE box has, > that's not my question. > I always understood in FreeBSD that "Free Memory is wasted memory" > > I compared this to the 5.3-RELEASE box of a colleague. > > AMD Athlon (1800-something-or-other) also 1GB RAM > > Mem: 467M Active, 224M Inact, 201M Wired, 33M Cache, 111M Buf, 71M Free > Swap: 4096M Total, 1672K Used, 4094M Free > > Other than the fact that swap doesn't add up (or doesn't seem to) the > box of my colleague seems to have a more "sensible" (classic) amount of > free memory. > > Is there something I can do in order to "optimize" - which in this case > paradoxically would seem to mean "reduce" the amount of free memory? > > Regards & TIA, > -Colin Colin, If you want to be made fun of, this is the type of question that will push you in that direction (references 'Thanks You!' thread). ;) Your colleague is probably running more applications/services than you, which is why he has less available memory. To use up some of that memory, simply start up some more applications. :) have a nice day! _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-648487703 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHm/YcACgkQRAAY9knOW+oiIQCeL0oph/pDtbOgGhj7cyiFcd4X m4wAnjxOcJ+3vRqkbLOmMl16Iz0dEBLk =NfpZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-648487703-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 23:01:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C51016A4D0 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:01:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328B443D46 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:01:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CpDxk-0003O8-Bi; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:01:08 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: John Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:01:25 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501131701.25430.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bce68ff6990c36d210782085bb2e9b84b5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:01:10 -0000 On Thursday 13 January 2005 04:18 pm, John wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 04:08:53PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:24 pm, John wrote: > > > I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that > > > people can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am > > > doing, and recommend a course of action that will get me back to > > > where I want to be. > > [ deleted for brevity ] > > > > I see my options as this: > > > 1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install > > > kde-lite instead, and rip out the packages I don't need > > > (theoretically possible - but feasible?) > > > 2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the > > > installworld and installkernel again, and then do the install of > > > the kde (or kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do > > > I need to make / and /usr?) > > > 3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the > > > installation, using only the distributions I need, and hope it > > > fits. > > > > > > Other suggestions? Anything obvious I'm missing? You folks have > > > been extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good > > > solution I'm just missing! > > > > 1. Upgrade the hard drive. > > Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to > support the environment I want? Maybe... I don't think you'll ever regret getting more space. Even if the platform doesn't need the space, you never know what immediate needs might pop up. The first wedding/family reunion we attended with a digital camera produced almost 400MB of our own 5 Megapixal images. That doesn't include copies of the relative's images. Being over a thousand miles from home is no time to upgrade a laptop. (A slide show of the photos was running during the last extended family dinner.) > > > 2. If you're going to install Windows, install it before you > > install FreeBSD. > > Yup - learned THAT the hard way! We do need to update the handbook > and other documentation in this regard - the current docs give the > impression that the only problem is that the boot manager gets > lost. I was, therefore, entirely ready for that, and had everything > at hand to put it back - only to discover after putting the boot > manager back that the problem was far, far worse than that. Of > course, that may be due to the ancient Windows I was installing. > > > 3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather > > than 5.2.1. > > Sigh. OK. I'll have to see if I can build that from what I have > already... Pointers to a way to build a distribution set for > 5.3-STABLE from what I have built? I suggest downloading and installing the 5.3 Release CD #1; and cvsup it from there. It would give you a clean start. There were a lot of changes from 5.2.1 to 5.3. A larger hard drive would uncomplicate this issue. > > > 4. Building OpenOffice requires massive resources. Use the binary > > packages. > > Oh, definitely! That is what I intend to do. > > Since I am using OpenOffice, should I use kde-lite instead of the > full kde installation? > > > 5. When you install from ports, make sure you "make install clean" > > to remove working files when they're no longer needed. > > OK, but that system, where I have the sources and all, is not hurting > for space. That may be true for /usr/src; but are you also using that system for /usr/ports? How is /tmp being handled? > > > 6. Use portupgrade (in the ports) to upgrade applications; but > > exclude OpenOffice. Not only can portupgrade take care of > > dependencies, but it has options to look for binary packages online > > before opting to compile from source. > > Ah hah! This is a trick I didn't know. I'll learn that. > > Thanks! > > > Best of luck, > > > > Andrew Gould > > Thank you, Andrew. I'd still like to know why the disk footprint > for what I want seems to have grown to dramatically. My hunch is > that when I did the "installworld" I got a bunch of "distributions" > (to use the install terminology) that I didn't intend, but that's > just speculation on my part. It's hard to help with this issue. Try using 'du' (man du) to find directories that are using unexpected amounts of space. Good luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 23:01:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBC516A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:01:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CB143D2D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so270708rna for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:01:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=BNLSQKBE0fK9dHLOAfRzD6LhrRscUl/c/BKg5itGgTsPxuF2lY+zR990yHanyFPs1VKtPcQwaJ0Uex0IwYTqMm/y1qLifs/B/arQSpcYBAtQKsznJ6APoOHWmKOHl7ipN7nlUs74AyfezZTOp9aMzjh6C34XTH9F8G6RoNzhj3E= Received: by 10.38.151.26 with SMTP id y26mr270411rnd; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.45 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:01:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0501131501144cfb81@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:01:46 +0000 From: Chris To: Juha Saarinen In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Scott Bye Subject: Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:01:48 -0000 To be fair it does say in the UPDATING list that this has to be done, when portupgrade started downloading 4.x instinct made me hit ctrl-c and check the UPDATING because its a major version change, and the problem is authlib overwrites part of courier-imap which of course means you will need to reinstall it after authlib is installed. Chris On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:02:07 +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:44:57 -0000, Scott Bye > wrote: > > I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and listening for connections. > > > > However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and nothing appears to be logged for any of the services. > > > > It's obviously affecting both POP3 and IMAP, leaving the mail services on my server useless. > > > > I tried reinstalling the port for courier-imap, but it complained that it couldn't find courierlogger. So I reinstalled courier-authlib from ports, and reinstalled courier-imap and it no longer complained. However, the services are still doing exactly the same! > > > > Any ideas what has happened?! > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > "Mr Sam", the Courier author, has made some pretty drastic changes > with the new version. All the auth stuff has been moved into a > separate package (courier-authlib). You need to add/edit some lines in > rc.conf (see UPDATING) . > > Unfortunately, a straight upgrade of the port doesn't seem to work. > I'm only using Courier-IMAP here, but had to delete the package and > reinstall it after Courier-authlib to get things working again. > > -- > Juha > > -- > > Juha > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 23:25:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BD616A4F1 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:25:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE70643D41 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:25:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CpELF-0001bg-9k; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:25:25 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: John Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:25:44 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131701.25430.algould@datawok.com> <20050113170544.A5876@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050113170544.A5876@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501131725.44430.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc6aa5882444361493e251eee0b3d0e101350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:25:26 -0000 On Thursday 13 January 2005 05:05 pm, you wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 05:01:25PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > On Thursday 13 January 2005 04:18 pm, John wrote: > > ... > > Thanks, Andrew - any advice on the kde versus kde-lite thing? I've > been looking around, and I can't find a clear description of how > they differ... This is from the kde-lite port MAKEFILE: WITHOUT_KDEVELOP= yes WITHOUT_KDEEDU= yes WITHOUT_KDENETWORK= yes WITHOUT_KDESDK= yes WITHOUT_KDETOYS= yes WITHOUT_KDEWEBDEV= yes WITHOUT_KOFFICE= yes Given the space limitations, I'd make a list of things you do on the computer that's covered by KDE apps. Then, install kde-lite and see if anything is missing. If something's missing, install the individual port. For example, if you use kppp (a nifty, ppp dialup program), which is in kdenetwork; so you would install it using the port at /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork3. Since you use OpenOffice, however, you don't need koffice taking up space. Best regards, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 00:08:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF62C16A4D6 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:08:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525ED43D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:08:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out014.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050114000805.MFTY28388.out014.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:05 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29DE11D8D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49657-07 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 258BA11AA2; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:07:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:07:57 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050114000756.GA52974@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:08:05 -0600 Subject: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:08:07 -0000 Ok, I've finally broken down and bought myself one of those fancy Microsoft thumbball thingys. I got tired of tracking my mouse around on a 5"X5" square, which is exactly the amount of free space on my desk right now. Anyway, since Microsoft is a pretty good accessory company I figured I'd check their thumbball out. (I didn't say they were a good software company) I got the following immediately after plugging in: Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Trackball Optical®, rev 1.10/1.21, addr 2, iclass 3/1 Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. The only problem is that it has 5 buttons including the button wheel. Give a man a hammer, he'll want to use it right? Well, now I've got these two new hammers, and I can't get them working quite right. I've got the following in xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" Option "Buttons" "7" Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" EndSection This is what I used to have: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection And I've restarted Xorg, and xev shows the proper button presses for the left (button 1) and right (button 3) buttons, wheel press (button 2), and weel scrolls (buttons 4 and 5). It also shows events for the side buttons, 6 and 7. I have the comand `xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"` in my ~/.xinitrc to set the buttons up, but I'm still getting odd behavior when I roll the wheel. So what's this strange behavior? Well, every time I roll the mouse wheel, I get the Fvwm Builtin menu. I tried setting a Nop action in the Fvwm mouse events config for buttons 6 and 7, but that breaks scrolling with the wheel. Now I can't seem to get scrolling back. So I need to figure out how to stop the menu popup without breaking the scrolling. Or at least get the scrolling back. I've tried this with and without moused, but no change. Naturally, I change the Device above to /dev/sysmouse, and moused polls from /dev/usm0. I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE, Xorg 6.7.1 (built from ports) and Fvwm 2.4.19 built with imlib support from the ports. I think that's all. Any ideas? TIA Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ QOTD: "My life is a soap opera, but who gets the movie rights?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 00:09:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2043716A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:09:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DBA43D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.2/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0E09XPv014009 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:09:33 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from localhost (jhary@localhost) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.2/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j0E09W0e014006; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:09:33 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:09:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Vince Hoffman To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <41E6A4F6.2020202@mac.com> Message-ID: <20050113230919.U11552@unsane.co.uk> References: <41E63E33.5010506@locolomo.org> <41E6A4F6.2020202@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: dhcpd for ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:09:36 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Erik Norgaard wrote: >> kame dhcpd does not support address allocation and isc-dhcpd does not >> support ipv6 - despite ipv6 being defined in 1996. This makes running an >> ipv6 based local network cumbersome to manage. > > You're absolutely right. > >> Does anyone know of alternatives? I'm confused, I have a /64 from the hurricane electric tunnelbroker. I use rtadvd on the server that is the tunnel endpoint, advertise the /64 using rtadvd and use rtsold or XPs equivelent so any address's are the prefix then the mac address of the client machine (am using rtsold on netbsd and windows XP's ipv6 both of which work fine) so it seems pretty easy to manage a single subnet lan. to me Vince > > Certainly: use IPv4. ISC's dhcpd does just fine with classic IPv4 addresses. > > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 00:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE1116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:29:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A95043D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:29:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beaverm@corp.earthlink.net) Received: from eocpc16.noc.earthlink.net ([207.69.180.50] helo=EOCPC16) by pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CpFLc-0003nl-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:29:52 -0800 From: "Mark Beaver" To: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:29:43 -0500 Message-ID: <044b01c4f9d0$2831e990$32b445cf@EOCPC16> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20050114000756.GA52974@keyslapper.org> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:29:53 -0000 In my experience with these leave the 4 5 as your ZAxisMapping and try = it should keep your wheel working. I'm not sure how to get the other two to work though, I've always had = issues with that. Mark Beaver -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Louis LeBlanc Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:08 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something Ok, I've finally broken down and bought myself one of those fancy Microsoft thumbball thingys. I got tired of tracking my mouse around on a 5"X5" square, which is exactly the amount of free space on my desk right now. Anyway, since Microsoft is a pretty good accessory company I figured I'd check their thumbball out. (I didn't say they were a good software company) I got the following immediately after plugging in: Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Trackball Optical=AE, rev 1.10/1.21, addr 2, iclass 3/1 Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. The only problem is that it has 5 buttons including the button wheel. Give a man a hammer, he'll want to use it right? Well, now I've got these two new hammers, and I can't get them working quite right. I've got the following in xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" Option "Buttons" "7" Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" EndSection This is what I used to have: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection And I've restarted Xorg, and xev shows the proper button presses for the left (button 1) and right (button 3) buttons, wheel press (button 2), and weel scrolls (buttons 4 and 5). It also shows events for the side buttons, 6 and 7. I have the comand `xmodmap -e "pointer =3D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"` in my ~/.xinitrc to set the buttons up, but I'm still getting odd behavior when I roll the wheel. So what's this strange behavior? Well, every time I roll the mouse wheel, I get the Fvwm Builtin menu. I tried setting a Nop action in the Fvwm mouse events config for buttons 6 and 7, but that breaks scrolling with the wheel. Now I can't seem to get scrolling back. So I need to figure out how to stop the menu popup without breaking the scrolling. Or at least get the scrolling back. I've tried this with and without moused, but no change. Naturally, I change the Device above to /dev/sysmouse, and moused polls from /dev/usm0. I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE, Xorg 6.7.1 (built from ports) and Fvwm 2.4.19 built with imlib support from the ports. I think that's all. Any ideas? TIA Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org =D4=BF=D4=AC QOTD: "My life is a soap opera, but who gets the movie rights?" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 00:38:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE9216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web42109.mail.yahoo.com (web42109.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E706243D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27397 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 00:38:14 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=io35Ad5kgGeXx5iFgQ4DcAF+3MP4OutsHqPc5VD30q4PU0juVXd+cgzMvcUAWUyyjl3KVfIuuB/ulV0bQPUdXI1PNrEJHutfLS/sz5aMWB74NrJMWxGrhFJ8kzY/NVXwZTFYZob0S1yiewp1UmqC0Yw9zk/yb1E33Qw3K6P+KmM= ; Message-ID: <20050114003814.27395.qmail@web42109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web42109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:38:14 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:38:14 -0800 (PST) From: Drumslayer2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: How can I speed up a dd copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:15 -0000 Hello When I am performing a dd between (2) 36 Gig 160 disks (to duplicate them) it takes about 2.5 hrs. Is there any way I can speed this up? Is there any better way I can clone a bootable main disk? Thanks NH. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 00:40:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D07816A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:40:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61307.mail.yahoo.com (web61307.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2436D43D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19632 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 00:40:31 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=tdEUGt614VCsG60F1Cy26M80J/Eh22OCNSt1E9osEqkE5BLO9Ou0lLbwaHyRuLHqGuHSvh+Sa4GcKbvq6t8ky6osRPZgHSVzyHqzI2tVFXg+JuX7bOq/y2+icmU+8MDvLTQ5xthkJ5r6/afAHPr0W8PVSdGc9WnIPTP+Bs653nQ= ; Message-ID: <20050114004031.19630.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.100.132] by web61307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:40:31 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:40:31 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Jerry McAllister , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501131807.j0DI7E329816@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:40:32 -0000 Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies that need support for the latest hardware. Thank you for informing me. Boris Jerry McAllister wrote: > > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report > a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they > make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product > this linux! Glad you're happy. Sorry you can not seem to comprehend a user volunteer supported system. Bye, ////jerry > > Boris > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 00:47:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D3516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:47:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neo.pl (n202.neo.pl [62.233.253.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8266F43D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:47:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrykm@hb.net.pl) Received: (qmail 9691 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 00:57:41 -0000 Received: from akv26.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO ?192.168.1.200?) (henrykm@hb.net.pl@83.17.25.26) by n02.neo.pl with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 00:57:41 -0000 From: Henryk Martinczak To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1105663682.2390.19.camel@heniek.jurgow.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-9.3.aur.1) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:49:49 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: making jail on 5.3 release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:47:57 -0000 Greetings I installed FreeBSD 5.3 (it is my first Freebsd) from iso image and I try to make jail with: # make world DESTDIR=/jail/test everything go fine until this: cc -0 -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c make: don't know how to make /jail/test/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop ***Error code 2 Stopping /usr/src. What is wrong?? Is there any step by step jail config quide ?? Regards, H.M. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:04:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4540D16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:04:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skippyii.compar.com (old.compar.com [216.208.38.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791A143D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:04:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM000039c69a66.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.82.185])j0E1Bw9B092113; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:11:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <005801c4f9d4$a924f110$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Drumslayer2" , References: <20050114003814.27395.qmail@web42109.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:02:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: How can I speed up a dd copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:04:18 -0000 > Hello > When I am performing a dd between (2) 36 Gig 160 > disks (to duplicate them) it takes about 2.5 hrs. Is > there any way I can speed this up? Is there any better > way I can clone a bootable main disk? A larger blocksize (bs=) will help dramatically. -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:04:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A6916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:04:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61008.mail.yahoo.com (web61008.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45BCE43D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edu07643@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 89504 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 01:04:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20050114010424.89502.qmail@web61008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.86.20.47] by web61008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:04:24 ART Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:04:24 -0300 (ART) From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Setting up USB Printer??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:04:25 -0000 I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 and I have a USB HP printer (Deskjet 842C) and I can't find any tutorials and the hand book is not much help either unless I'm missing something on how to setup any USB printer under FreeBSD. Can anyone help me with this? __________________________________________________ Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:13:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276CC16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:13:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C4C943D45 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 82619 invoked by uid 55300); 14 Jan 2005 01:13:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:13:49 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Keith Bottner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:13:50 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1]. > > The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating > systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant > manual tweaking of the source. At work (former), I was responsible for code which was to *compile* on 6 or 7 different platforms. I choose one (often my FreeBSD workstation) upon which to execute the auto-tools and didn't bother with most of the others though I kept a compatible set of these tools on Linux and Solaris for convenience. Indeed, the whole paradigm behind these tools is that they should _not_ be needed on the target platform. 'autoconf' goes to great pains to generate platform independent Bourne shell configure script for a very good reason! Unfortunately too many people either misunderstand the paradigm and/or or mis-use the tools and I suspect that this is a good portion of the reason why the FreeBSD ports infrastructure needs to play so many silly games with the auto-tools. Properly speaking, the target platform shouldn't need them at all, but I'm sure there are details of certain source distributions which I am not aware of. Thanks, - Tom > The best way to do that is to use the same version of autotools on all > those platforms. So, I install the latest possible versions of these > tools with --prefix=/opt/autotools on all the machines I have to use, > and stop worrying about all the details. > > When I have to use the tools, I add /opt/autotools/bin at the beginning > of my PATH. When I don't need them, I remove /opt/autotools/bin from my > path. > > This has worked wonders so far. > > - Giorgos > > > > [1] The operative keyword here is "at work". I don't use autoconf and > friends for programs I write on my own. I prefer bsd.*.mk for that. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:18:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D55F16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:18:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D37743D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:18:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [63.228.14.243] (63-228-14-243.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.243]) (authenticated bits=0)j0E1J2D0067831 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:19:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3ECB5145-65CA-11D9-B246-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-656794380" To: FreeBSD Questions From: Eric F Crist Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:18:49 -0600 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net Subject: CyrusIMAPd, SquirrelMail, and sendmail troubles... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:18:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3-656794380 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello list. I've got a whole slew of issues I'm hoping you can help me resolve. I followed the instructions at http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~venkat/tutorial1.html to install cyrusimapd. Everything seemed just fine. I tried to install SquirrelMail, which installed fine, but I cannot log in. Here's what I want to do: 1) I want to use the regular user accounts and passwords for email. 2) I would like to be able to access each account through either pop3s, imap, or squirrelmail What have I done wrong, or where should I (re)start? TIA _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-3-656794380 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHnHfkACgkQRAAY9knOW+rp0gCdHuGu/t/bmX+/PFDqBDJAIEAb q7AAn3Rn7+I7UO88ffAegRg5UPpodKIS =2STn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-3-656794380-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:19:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3410B16A4DF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:19:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EDB43D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:19:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CpG7e-00032R-Jb; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:19:30 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:19:50 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050114010424.89502.qmail@web61008.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050114010424.89502.qmail@web61008.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501131919.50335.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcf4e79d987f6d12be1935adcd213f3c9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: "E. J. Cerejo" Subject: Re: Setting up USB Printer??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:19:31 -0000 On Thursday 13 January 2005 07:04 pm, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 and I have a USB HP printer (Deskjet 842C) > and I can't find any tutorials and the hand book is not much help > either unless I'm missing something on how to setup any USB printer > under FreeBSD. Can anyone help me with this? > The first step is to see if your system recognizes the usb printer. If you review the output of dmesg, you should find the printer associated with a ulpt device. If it's associated with a ugen device, then the system doesn't recognize it. If the printer is recognized, the next step is to configure it. The easiest ways include installing a printer program such as cups or apsfilter. You can find these apps in the ports; and you can find lots of documentation via google. Information regarding your specific printer can be found at: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_842C If your printer is not identified correctly when connected via usb, you can purchase an external print server with usb ports and use apsfilter or cups to configure the printer over the internet. Good luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:38:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A467316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:38:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (cromagnon.cullmail.com [67.33.58.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3462543D48 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:38:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (localhost.cullmail.com [127.0.0.1]) j0E1abxY040732; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:36:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by cromagnon.cullmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0E1abR4040731; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:36:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore) From: Jay Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:36:36 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501131936.36744.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> cc: Florian Hengstberger Subject: Re: Serial communication, terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:38:43 -0000 On Wednesday 12 January 2005 03:22 am, Florian Hengstberger wrote: > Hi! > > I have a microcontroller with an uart interface. > I want to communicate with my computer through the serial port > of my FreeBSD box. > Is it somehow possible to connect the serial io to a xterm? > Case it is not: I don't want to write a program myself - > is there an existing program handling the io? open a terminal window & type in "minicom -s" set the parameters as required to match your target quit/exit minicom now type in "minicom" & start your target you may also need to chmod or chown your serial tty device to access the serial port as a "regular" user. HTH, Jay PS - thought I'd try this before sending the mail, but appears my 5.2.1 BSD doesn't have minicom :( So - you may need to install it from the ports collection. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:51:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E988916A4ED for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out008.verizon.net (out008pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7AE43D5D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:51:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out008.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050114015148.NGBD17379.out008.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:51:48 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29FD11D19 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56037-02 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2AD4B119C1; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:51:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:51:40 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050114015139.GA54044@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20050114000756.GA52974@keyslapper.org> <044b01c4f9d0$2831e990$32b445cf@EOCPC16> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <044b01c4f9d0$2831e990$32b445cf@EOCPC16> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:51:48 -0600 Subject: Re: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:51:50 -0000 I think I have it partly figured out. I had to change the xmodmap command in .xsession to this: xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" But I kept the ZAxisMapping at 6 and 7. Now xev shows the side buttons registering at 6 and 7, but I still can't seem to get them working right through Fvwm. At least I have scrolling without annoying popup menus. I'll try switching the ZAxisMapping and the xmodmap to see if I can get a change. Thanks Lou On 01/13/05 07:29 PM, Mark Beaver sat at the `puter and typed: > In my experience with these leave the 4 5 as your ZAxisMapping and try it > should keep your wheel working. > > I'm not sure how to get the other two to work though, I've always had issues > with that. > > > Mark Beaver > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Louis LeBlanc > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:08 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something > > Ok, I've finally broken down and bought myself one of those fancy > Microsoft thumbball thingys. I got tired of tracking my mouse around > on a 5"X5" square, which is exactly the amount of free space on my > desk right now. > > Anyway, since Microsoft is a pretty good accessory company I figured > I'd check their thumbball out. (I didn't say they were a good > software company) > > I got the following immediately after plugging in: > Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Trackball > Optical®, rev 1.10/1.21, addr 2, iclass 3/1 > Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. > > The only problem is that it has 5 buttons including the button wheel. > > Give a man a hammer, he'll want to use it right? > > Well, now I've got these two new hammers, and I can't get them > working quite right. > > I've got the following in xorg.conf: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" > Option "Buttons" "7" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" > EndSection > > > This is what I used to have: > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection > > And I've restarted Xorg, and xev shows the proper button presses for > the left (button 1) and right (button 3) buttons, wheel press (button > 2), and weel scrolls (buttons 4 and 5). It also shows events for the > side buttons, 6 and 7. > > I have the comand `xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"` in my > ~/.xinitrc to set the buttons up, but I'm still getting odd behavior > when I roll the wheel. > > So what's this strange behavior? Well, every time I roll the mouse > wheel, I get the Fvwm Builtin menu. I tried setting a Nop action in > the Fvwm mouse events config for buttons 6 and 7, but that breaks > scrolling with the wheel. Now I can't seem to get scrolling back. So > I need to figure out how to stop the menu popup without breaking the > scrolling. Or at least get the scrolling back. > > I've tried this with and without moused, but no change. Naturally, > I change the Device above to /dev/sysmouse, and moused polls from > /dev/usm0. > > I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE, Xorg 6.7.1 (built from ports) and > Fvwm 2.4.19 built with imlib support from the ports. > > I think that's all. > > Any ideas? > > TIA > Lou > -- > Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org > Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) > http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ > > QOTD: > "My life is a soap opera, but who gets the movie rights?" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Zero Defects, n.: The result of shutting down a production line. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 01:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358AF16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:59:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918A243D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:59:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F6EC4BFF1; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:59:04 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: W1fHuI1YOXPnOXaTF39U2w 1105667943 Received: from sparky (dhcp-parkland-114-2575-152.msns.sm.ptd.net [24.229.114.177]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7318675E; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:59:02 -0500 (EST) To: "John Conover" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050113090242.1784.qmail@rahul.net> Message-ID: From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:59:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050113090242.1784.qmail@rahul.net> User-Agent: Opera M2(BETA1)/8.00 (Win32, build 7411) Subject: Re: FBSD boot loader? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:59:08 -0000 On 13 Jan 2005 09:02:42 -0000, John Conover wrote: > > Is there a 1024 cylinder limit on the first slice for a dual boot > PC system using the FBSD boot loader? > > I presume there is, but I couldn't find it in the handbook. Maybe I > missed it. Somewhere between 1997 and 1999 this stopped being a problem for FreeBSD, which will boot from anywhere the BIOS allows it to. See . Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:00:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE0316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:00:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D043D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:00:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so153364rne for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:00:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NDpHIACheBuY492Pb6KcwLnxM8lKGE/44Avj0NE/ANkFtR6PC/0vlgeFOsXDkv5fpC+hBEct/xrAAYxDNBmy4HvNh3XENOhxjTJCqEaG5Squ4Du71V6x6OL5NZiOnsuW5k4XTvZaUVW2UvDBIIrEpL9GhKeFiORf2ssVsgBbWjQ= Received: by 10.38.15.58 with SMTP id 58mr77876rno; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.14.22 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:00:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57d710000501131800788ec662@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:00:54 -0800 From: pete wright To: Henryk Martinczak In-Reply-To: <1105663682.2390.19.camel@heniek.jurgow.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1105663682.2390.19.camel@heniek.jurgow.net> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making jail on 5.3 release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:00:57 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:49:49 +0100, Henryk Martinczak wrote: > Greetings > > I installed FreeBSD 5.3 (it is my first Freebsd) from iso image and I > try to make jail with: > > # make world DESTDIR=/jail/test > > everything go fine until this: > > cc -0 -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include > -c/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c > > make: don't know how to make /jail/test/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop > ***Error code 2 > Stopping /usr/src. > > What is wrong?? > Is there any step by step jail config quide ?? > from man (8) jail which also happens to be the best place to look for information like this: This example shows how to set up a jail directory tree containing an entire FreeBSD distribution: D=/here/is/the/jail cd /usr/src mkdir -p $D make world DESTDIR=$D cd etc make distribution DESTDIR=$D mount_devfs devfs $D/dev cd $D ln -sf dev/null kernel HTH -pete > Regards, > H.M. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:05:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D1D16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:05:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5CD43D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:05:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0E257k02052; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:05:07 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501140205.j0E257k02052@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: hardcodeharry@yahoo.com (Boris Spirialitious) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:05:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050114004031.19630.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> from "Boris Spirialitious" at Jan 13, 2005 04:40:31 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:05:10 -0000 > > Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies > that need support for the latest hardware. Thank you for informing > me. Thought you decided to leave. That's why I said 'Bye' Someone who begins with their first post on the questions list with invective and insults instead of asking a question will, not surprisingly, not receive much positive response. People here are interested in getting questions answered and problems solved. They are not interested in responding to juvenile attacks. ////jerry > > Boris > > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed > > to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report > > a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they > > make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product > > this linux! > > Glad you're happy. > Sorry you can not seem to comprehend a user volunteer supported system. > > Bye, > > ////jerry > > > Boris > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:19:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77AB16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:19:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3602743D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903506128; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:18:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82732-01; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:18:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF49610E; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:18:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E72C28.807@makeworld.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:19:20 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200501140205.j0E257k02052@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200501140205.j0E257k02052@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Boris Spirialitious Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:19:00 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >>Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies >>that need support for the latest hardware. Thank you for informing >>me. > > > Thought you decided to leave. > That's why I said 'Bye' > > Someone who begins with their first post on the questions list with > invective and insults instead of asking a question will, not surprisingly, > not receive much positive response. People here are interested in > getting questions answered and problems solved. They are not > interested in responding to juvenile attacks. > > ////jerry > > >> >>Boris >> >>Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >>>I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed >>>to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report >>>a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they >>>make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product >>>this linux! >> >>Glad you're happy. >>Sorry you can not seem to comprehend a user volunteer supported system. >> >>Bye, >> >>////jerry >> >> >>>Boris Ok - let's just call em what he is. This one just does not grasp the concepts of manors much less being some variant of a human being - So, I'll stoop to a level IT can understand - This one is a f***-tard. Plain and simple. Furthermore, I apologize to anyone that is offended by the tone of my posting. Let's just call it as we see it. -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:22:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FB716A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:22:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E60E43D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0E2MN4m089457 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:22:24 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j0E2MNdr002923; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:22:23 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:22:23 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501140222.j0E2MNdr002923@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <182233524.20050113205707@wanadoo.fr> (message from Anthony Atkielski on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:07 +0100) References: <200501131218.j0DCIMrx002556@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <182233524.20050113205707@wanadoo.fr> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:22:27 -0000 > The other AMD processor, on my server, dramatically overheated for 8-12 > hours at a time (process stuck in a loop--I never found out why). It > damaged something that failed intermittently at first (segment > violations in the kernel and in daemons that should never have such > problems), then got worse and worse over a few days, until it failed > completely. It was not my machine, maybe it had been giving some warnings, but the one in charge failed to notice them. > I decided to build my own. I was tired of not knowing what was inside > the machine, and finding out the hard and expensive way that many > corners had been cut. I also got tired of having stacks and stacks of I rely on a shop that I trust, and for servers, I give the exact requirements :) And of course I always open a new box before I power it on... > unused stereo mini-speakers, ultra-cheap keyboards, and equally cheap > mice. Not to mention paying for Windows and a boatload of absolutely At least we do not pay for Windows, that is Thailand :) (partial BS as we have a site licence for Windows, shame!) Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:30:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD3C16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:30:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE5843D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:30:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beaverm@corp.earthlink.net) Received: from eocpc16.noc.earthlink.net ([207.69.180.50] helo=EOCPC16) by pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CpHDy-0005Uj-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:30:06 -0800 From: "Mark Beaver" To: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:29:57 -0500 Message-ID: <04d501c4f9e0$f3e0e810$32b445cf@EOCPC16> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20050114015139.GA54044@keyslapper.org> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:30:06 -0000 I think it's not so much a setting in X. I think it's more that X simply doesn't have the software to support those extra buttons (wether it's = the server or the wm of choice) that's got the lack I'm not sure. What I do know is that I can set this up fine using 4,5 as my = ZAxisMapping, and leave xmodmap alone. The buttons get recognized, but as I stated, I don't think any of the current window managers have a "function" to = allow for you to set something up for those input buttons. Good example: Set your Zaxis mapping to 6 7 then leave xmodmap at 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and = the extra two buttons *should* control your scroll, and the mouse wheel = should do nothing. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Louis LeBlanc Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:52 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something I think I have it partly figured out. I had to change the xmodmap command in .xsession to this: xmodmap -e "pointer =3D 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" But I kept the ZAxisMapping at 6 and 7. Now xev shows the side buttons registering at 6 and 7, but I still can't seem to get them working right through Fvwm. At least I have scrolling without annoying popup menus. I'll try switching the ZAxisMapping and the xmodmap to see if I can get a change. Thanks Lou On 01/13/05 07:29 PM, Mark Beaver sat at the `puter and typed: > In my experience with these leave the 4 5 as your ZAxisMapping and try = it > should keep your wheel working. >=20 > I'm not sure how to get the other two to work though, I've always had issues > with that. >=20 >=20 > Mark Beaver >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Louis = LeBlanc > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:08 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something >=20 > Ok, I've finally broken down and bought myself one of those fancy > Microsoft thumbball thingys. I got tired of tracking my mouse around > on a 5"X5" square, which is exactly the amount of free space on my > desk right now. >=20 > Anyway, since Microsoft is a pretty good accessory company I figured > I'd check their thumbball out. (I didn't say they were a good > software company) >=20 > I got the following immediately after plugging in: > Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Trackball > Optical=AE, rev 1.10/1.21, addr 2, iclass 3/1 > Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. >=20 > The only problem is that it has 5 buttons including the button wheel. >=20 > Give a man a hammer, he'll want to use it right? >=20 > Well, now I've got these two new hammers, and I can't get them > working quite right. >=20 > I've got the following in xorg.conf: >=20 > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" > Option "Buttons" "7" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" > EndSection >=20 >=20 > This is what I used to have: > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection >=20 > And I've restarted Xorg, and xev shows the proper button presses for > the left (button 1) and right (button 3) buttons, wheel press (button > 2), and weel scrolls (buttons 4 and 5). It also shows events for the > side buttons, 6 and 7. >=20 > I have the comand `xmodmap -e "pointer =3D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"` in my > ~/.xinitrc to set the buttons up, but I'm still getting odd behavior > when I roll the wheel. >=20 > So what's this strange behavior? Well, every time I roll the mouse > wheel, I get the Fvwm Builtin menu. I tried setting a Nop action in > the Fvwm mouse events config for buttons 6 and 7, but that breaks > scrolling with the wheel. Now I can't seem to get scrolling back. So > I need to figure out how to stop the menu popup without breaking the > scrolling. Or at least get the scrolling back. >=20 > I've tried this with and without moused, but no change. Naturally, > I change the Device above to /dev/sysmouse, and moused polls from > /dev/usm0. >=20 > I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE, Xorg 6.7.1 (built from ports) and > Fvwm 2.4.19 built with imlib support from the ports. >=20 > I think that's all. >=20 > Any ideas? >=20 > TIA > Lou > --=20 > Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org > Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) > http://www.keyslapper.org =D4=BF=D4=AC >=20 > QOTD: > "My life is a soap opera, but who gets the movie rights?" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org =D4=BF=D4=AC Zero Defects, n.: The result of shutting down a production line. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:41:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2240316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:41:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F25943D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0E2fU9D090218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:41:30 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j0E2fUHZ002973; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:41:30 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:41:30 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200501140241.j0E2fUHZ002973@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <41E697DA.5090905@comcast.net> (message from Kris Maglione on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:46:34 -0500) References: <200501131424.j0DEOnvw001009@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <41E697DA.5090905@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Cut and paste in Emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:41:35 -0000 > >When I select some text with the mouse in Emacs, i can copy it into > >another X window application, but I cannot copy it in a Win2K > >application. > > It would be helpful to know how you access the win2k application > (rdesktop, vmware, ...). Sorry, I should have mentionned it. Xwin-32 6.1. My desktop with Win2K is running the X server Xwin so I can access the Unix servers. > This may be similar to a problem in copying from Emacs and pasting > into Gnumeric. Any way try this: > > 1) In EMACS do: M-x clipboard-kill-ring-save RET > 2) Then highlight the text and save it (either withe mouse or by > C-SPACE, followed by ESC-w, at the end of the region to be copied. Nope, it does not help. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:42:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972FA16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:42:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.50.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2988E43D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:42:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: from ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.uwaterloo.ca [127.0.0.1]) j0E2gtAG006872; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:42:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: (from www@localhost) by ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0E2gt9h006871; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:42:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca: www set sender to bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca using -f Received: from 65.93.198.45 ( [65.93.198.45])HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:42:55 -0500 Message-ID: <1105670575.41e731af8de9a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:42:55 -0500 From: Bruce Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 / FreeBSD-4.6.2 X-Originating-IP: 65.93.198.45 cc: Paul McKone Subject: flock failure on NFS from 5.3 client to 4.7 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:42:51 -0000 NFS server: FreeBSD 4.7 Old Mail server: FreeBSD 4.7, home directories mounted to NFS server New Mail server: FreeBSD 5.3, home directories mounted to NFS server After the mail server upgrade to 5.3, flock gives error "operation not supported" on nfs mounted home directories. Example: Jan 13 00:06:32 mail vacation[92816]: vacation: .vacation: Operation not supported output from "truss" open(".vacation.db",0x2,0640) = 3 (0x3) fstat(3,0xbfbfd350) = 0 (0x0) flock(0x3,0x2) ERR#45 'Operation not supported' close(3) = 0 (0x0) It appears someone else has done substantially more debugging than I: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059777.html but is seemingly no further ahead. On our NFS server, rpc.statd is running, but rpc.lockd wasn't. Started it, still no worky. Killed it, other 4.7 clients still flock fine. Any suggestions for a fix or workaround so "vacation" works (which depends on flock) ? Thanks, -- Bruce Campbell Engineering Computing CPH-2374B University of Waterloo (519)888-4567 ext 5889 ---------------------------------------- This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 02:47:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C3516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:47:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4945A43D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:47:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8DD02512C4; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:46:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:46:56 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Bruce Campbell Message-ID: <20050114024656.GA66730@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1105670575.41e731af8de9a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1105670575.41e731af8de9a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul McKone Subject: Re: flock failure on NFS from 5.3 client to 4.7 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:47:00 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:42:55PM -0500, Bruce Campbell wrote: >=20 > NFS server: FreeBSD 4.7 > Old Mail server: FreeBSD 4.7, home directories mounted to NFS server > New Mail server: FreeBSD 5.3, home directories mounted to NFS server >=20 > After the mail server upgrade to 5.3, flock gives error "operation not su= pported"=20 > on nfs mounted home directories. Example: >=20 > Jan 13 00:06:32 mail vacation[92816]: vacation: .vacation: Operation not = supported >=20 > output from "truss" >=20 > open(".vacation.db",0x2,0640) =3D 3 (0x3) > fstat(3,0xbfbfd350) =3D 0 (0x0) > flock(0x3,0x2) ERR#45 'Operation not su= pported' > close(3) =3D 0 (0x0) >=20 > It appears someone else has done substantially more debugging than I: >=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059= 777.html >=20 > but is seemingly no further ahead. >=20 > On our NFS server, rpc.statd is running, but rpc.lockd wasn't. Started > it, still no worky. Killed it, other 4.7 clients still flock fine. rpc.lockd needs to be running on *both* client *and* server. 4.x gets away with it because the rpc.lockd implementation does not in fact implement locking on the client. Kris --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5zKgWry0BWjoQKURAjCfAJ4nIlRhScstnct/XAybpjPNWmU6EwCgqz8g Cl0W8bjvR3bL3Tezl/UmK0o= =pSD+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 03:21:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07D316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:21:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE5143D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:21:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 56590 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 19:21:47 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 19:21:47 -0800 Message-ID: <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:21:48 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Spirialitious References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:21:56 -0000 Boris Spirialitious wrote: It's like Dave Horsfall wrote: _____________________ /| /| | | | ||__|| | | Please do not | / O O\__ | feed the | / \ | Trolls | / \ \|_____________________| / _ \ \ || / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | _|| / / \ |____| || / | | | --| | | | |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ | || / _ \\ | / ` * / \_ /- | | | * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 03:26:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F72216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:26:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.50.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C4D43D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: from ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.uwaterloo.ca [127.0.0.1]) j0E3QVAG009587; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:26:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: (from www@localhost) by ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0E3QUqm009586; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:26:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca: www set sender to bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca using -f Received: from 65.93.198.45 ( [65.93.198.45])HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:26:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1105673190.41e73be6d7349@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:26:30 -0500 From: Bruce Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1105670575.41e731af8de9a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> <20050114024656.GA66730@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050114024656.GA66730@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 / FreeBSD-4.6.2 X-Originating-IP: 65.93.198.45 cc: Paul McKone Subject: Re: flock failure on NFS from 5.3 client to 4.7 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:26:26 -0000 Quoting Kris Kennaway : > > ... > > After the mail server upgrade to 5.3, flock gives error "operation not supported" > > on nfs mounted home directories. > > ... > > On our NFS server, rpc.statd is running, but rpc.lockd wasn't. Started > > it, still no worky. Killed it, other 4.7 clients still flock fine. > > rpc.lockd needs to be running on *both* client *and* server. > > 4.x gets away with it because the rpc.lockd implementation does not in > fact implement locking on the client. > > Kris > Thanks, that has fixed it, and I've added the appropriate rc.conf settings on the client: rpc_lockd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for client/serv rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for client/serv rpcbind_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service and on the server: rpc_lockd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd (*broken!*) if nfs_server. rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd if nfs_server (or NO). -- Bruce Campbell Engineering Computing CPH-2374B University of Waterloo (519)888-4567 ext 5889 ---------------------------------------- This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 03:54:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE3916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:54:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61003.mail.yahoo.com (web61003.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D4A743D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:54:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edu07643@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 42380 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 03:54:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20050114035451.42378.qmail@web61003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.86.20.47] by web61003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:54:51 ART Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:54:51 -0300 (ART) From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Linux_Base X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:54:52 -0000 How can you make linux_base-8 the default for FreeBSD 5.3? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 03:59:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1441B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:59:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF34243D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6A65513CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:59:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:59:56 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "E. J. Cerejo" Message-ID: <20050114035956.GA82909@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050114035451.42378.qmail@web61003.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050114035451.42378.qmail@web61003.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Linux_Base X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:59:58 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:54:51AM -0300, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > How can you make linux_base-8 the default for FreeBSD 5.3? It is the default for all versions of FreeBSD, as of a few weeks ago. Kris --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB50O8Wry0BWjoQKURAj86AJ0VBz4zjdGZPHd55eRVDECxoxjObgCcCPbU M/xHbH+qKE4yVE4u78vwFf0= =lGnC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 04:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F53B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:11:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74543D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:11:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050114041123i9200it2fve>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:11:23 +0000 Message-ID: <41E74668.9020307@nbritton.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:11:20 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Spirialitious References: <20050114004031.19630.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050114004031.19630.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:11:24 -0000 Boris Spirialitious wrote: >Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies >that need support for the latest hardware. Thank you for informing >me. > >Boris > > Personally I moved away from Linux because of all the support problems it had, I've learned more about UNIX from the 1 1/2 years using FreeBSD then I ever did in the 5 years using Linux. This is mainly do to the excellent centralized and authoritative documentation available for the project. Also it really helped that FreeBSD is an Operating System and not just a kernel + 3rd party user & system tools hodgepodged together into a distribution. Also FreeBSD nor Linux are good choices if your looking for support and the latest hardware. Being able to support yourself with minimal help from others is par for the course for any open source UNIX solution. Windows and other commercial solutions are available if you need hand holding. Good luck on your Linux odyssey, and your welcome back anytime as long as you don't keep burning your bridges and apologize to the FreeBSD team for calling them "Very stupid people" (Re: Supermicro Hardware and FreeBSD, 01/05/05@10:50), they would have helped you if you hadn't of said that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 04:15:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC7B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:15:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-140-118.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.140.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF31943D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:15:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6E5501564A5; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BF21564A4; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:18:11 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: Tabor Kelly In-Reply-To: <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> Message-ID: References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: Boris Spirialitious cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:15:45 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Tabor Kelly wrote: > Boris Spirialitious wrote: > > > > It's like Dave Horsfall wrote: > > _____________________ > /| /| | | | > ||__|| | | Please do not | > / O O\__ | feed the | > / \ | Trolls | > / \ \|_____________________| > / _ \ \ || > / |\____\ \ || > / | | | |\____/ || > / \|_|_|/ | _|| > / / \ |____| || > / | | | --| > | | | |____ --| > * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ > *-- _--\ _ \ | || > / _ \\ | / ` > * / \_ /- | | | > * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ > > -- Indeed. One should never respond to a troll. It's always so much more fun to respond *at* a troll. I find the most satisfying response to be pointing and giggling at the offending creature. FWIW, I did review this fellow's earlier posts. And, I have to say, he won't be missed. Rude, condecending, and moreover, combative and aggresively defensive over what could have been slightly minor matters. Sad, but, nontheless, entertaining for 10 seconds. Sadly, the olde style fun trolls don't exist anymore. An extinct beast. *sigh* -- Duo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 04:26:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DF716A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:26:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5182843D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:26:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0709.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 128AA1C00085 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:26:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0709.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DD1761C00088 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:26:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:26:57 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <443663691.20050114052657@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050114004031.19630.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200501131807.j0DI7E329816@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <20050114004031.19630.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:26:59 -0000 Boris Spirialitious writes: BS> Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies BS> that need support for the latest hardware. It's not a question of latest, it's a question of which hardware. FreeBSD, like all operating systems, targets a broad but not universal user base, and so the mix of hardware that it supports doesn't cover every conceivable device, although it will naturally overlap for the most part with any other OS. For example, given the predominance of FreeBSD as a heavy-duty server (a quick check of the Web will readily show that FreeBSD is being used all over the place), I'd expect to see relatively weak support for joysticks and game accessories, and relatively strong support for backup devices and terminals. I'd expect to see the opposite with Linux, which is heavily promoted as a desktop OS. I use FreeBSD as a straight server OS, and it seems to support whatever devices I care to connect to it in that capacity. I don't have very exotic requirements, though. It is also true that the more widely used and/or better funded an OS is, the more devices it usually supports. Many people are trying to make money with Linux, so they get it to support more devices; and it has a large user base, which encourages more people and companies to volunteer hardware support. Windows is in a similar position. Even with Windows, though, you see differences: NT-based systems traditionally have had better support for server-oriented devices (like FreeBSD), whereas consumer versions of Windows emphasized game ports, fancy video cards, and the like. Currently I consider FreeBSD the best available choice for a server, and if it weren't for FreeBSD, I'd probably select one of the other open-source BSDs. Linux is too incoherent and desktop-oriented today for heavy server use, IMO. And if I want a pure desktop, I just run Windows. For companies with a minimal IT staff, I'd recommend Windows 2000 for servers in most cases. If they have a qualified IT staff, I might suggest some commercial flavor of UNIX. If they have a very qualified IT staff, I might suggest FreeBSD. The reason for requiring the qualified IT staff for FreeBSD is not that FreeBSD is any less reliable than the other choices; it's just that FreeBSD has no formal support structure that one can call at 3 AM to fix a broken server, whereas commercial OS publishers usually do (even then, if the staff is really clueless, it's safest for them to avoid any type of UNIX entirely). For desktops, I always recommend Windows. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 04:49:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEFD16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:49:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2ECD43D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j0E4n8ZH017193; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:49:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:49:08 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Matt Emmerton Message-ID: <20050114044908.GA9069@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050114003814.27395.qmail@web42109.mail.yahoo.com> <005801c4f9d4$a924f110$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005801c4f9d4$a924f110$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Drumslayer2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I speed up a dd copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:49:10 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 13), Matt Emmerton said: > > When I am performing a dd between (2) 36 Gig 160 disks (to > > duplicate them) it takes about 2.5 hrs. Is there any way I can > > speed this up? Is there any better way I can clone a bootable main > > disk? > > A larger blocksize (bs=) will help dramatically. Also try double-buffering with ports/misc/team or ports/misc/buffer. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 05:20:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCD516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:20:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta2.shell-source.com (mta2.shell-source.com [69.66.30.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B738B43D54 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:20:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin@paradoxial.net) Received: from paradoxni1sc95 (CPE0080c6f9698e-CM013299901615.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [65.49.176.66]) by mta2.shell-source.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id j0E5EEeg005330 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:14:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from admin@paradoxial.net) Message-ID: <000801c4f9f8$babf6e90$42b03141@paradoxni1sc95> From: "admin" To: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:20:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:20:18 -0000 Hi there i just have a quick problom i installed Freebsd befor and got = gnome to work on startx now when i reinstalled it like sevral times now = when i do startx i get the old windows 3.1 look to the startx if you = can shed some light on this please do thanks chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 05:28:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D6416A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:28:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE9343D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:28:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so772846wri for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:28:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HNyuGNPNye/Ec/dgDeY+HX2zrFtBJPhS/5+9Fgm/Syk/g9PcWugRWaOtcI6YKBxqpC71wvq8zBw7Uxwvje9atxYsWRWYhkoFYhJxtBUu6qHHhkNYb3iWdOjDmp64GRv51+t5XMdZLy/owc6jtgwXLYQO3vWQW6n+2ibdQGu5gtA= Received: by 10.54.59.9 with SMTP id h9mr228103wra; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:28:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c300501132128608f6918@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:28:47 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <3ECB5145-65CA-11D9-B246-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3ECB5145-65CA-11D9-B246-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Subject: Re: CyrusIMAPd, SquirrelMail, and sendmail troubles... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:28:48 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:18:49 -0600, Eric F Crist wrote: > 1) I want to use the regular user accounts and passwords for email. How have you setup authentication against user accounts? The tutorial you referenced is a little vague about SASL authentication sources, and seems to be authenticating primarily against sasldb (separate password db). See Google for how Cyrus SASL works -- this link seems promising from a quick read: http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/cyrus/sysadmin.html > 2) I would like to be able to access each account through either pop3s, > imap, or squirrelmail Squirrelmail is just a web-based IMAP client. > What have I done wrong, or where should I (re)start? Anything in maillog or messages logs? Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 05:49:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556D316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:49:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chaos.tatersalad.net (tatersalad.net [66.111.33.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14F843D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:49:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from static@tatersalad.net) Received: from staticbasement (c-24-118-247-85.mn.client2.attbi.com [24.118.247.85]) by chaos.tatersalad.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j0E5oUs8042290 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:50:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from static@tatersalad.net) Message-ID: <004901c4f9fc$804aff50$9601a8c0@staticbasement> From: "Static" To: References: <003101c4f90d$8471d440$9601a8c0@staticbasement> <444qhlgdsd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:47:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: login.conf problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:49:13 -0000 Resource limits (current): cputime infinity secs filesize infinity kb datasize 524288 kb stacksize 65536 kb coredumpsize infinity kb memoryuse infinity kb memorylocked infinity kb maxprocesses 867 openfiles 1735 sbsize infinity bytes vmemoryuse infinity kb - I used adduser and just placed ircd as the user class ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Gilbert" To: "Static" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: Re: login.conf problems > "Static" writes: > >> Im trying to add a class that will limit processes and session limits, I >> added this >> ircd:\ >> :tc=default:\ >> :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ >> :welcome=/etc/motd:\ >> :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K:\ >> :path=~/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin:\ >> :manpath=/usr/share/man /usr/local/man:\ >> :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\ >> :ftp-chroot:\ >> :cputime=1h30m:\ >> :datasize=100M:\ >> :vmemoryuse=100M:\ >> :stacksize=2M:\ >> :memorylocked=4M:\ >> :memoryuse=8M:\ >> :filesize=100M:\ >> :coredumpsize=8M:\ >> :openfiles=24:\ >> :maxproc=32:\ >> :priority=0:\ >> :requirehome:\ >> :idletime=30m:\ >> :sessionlimit=2:\ >> :umask=002:\ >> :ignoretime@:\ >> Then I proceed to run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf" then I make a user with >> the login class of ircd, but the session limits dont seem to work, was >> curious if anyone out there knew how to fix that > > Which ones don't work? [Not all of them are implemented.] > > How did you add the new user? Did the password database get rebuilt? > > Do the limits appear to be changed in the output of limits(1)? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 05:55:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C1A16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:55:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail.uoi.gr (webmail.uoi.gr [195.130.120.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3849543D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:55:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr) Received: from webmail.uoi.gr (localhost [127.0.0.1])j0E5tpNP005738 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:55:51 +0200 Received: (from wwwrun@localhost) by webmail.uoi.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0E5tpAZ005737 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:55:51 +0200 Received: from vdp005.pam01.gwc.hol.gr (vdp005.pam01.gwc.hol.gr [194.30.213.37]) by webmail.uoi.gr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:55:51 +0200 Message-ID: <1105682151.41e75ee75d681@webmail.uoi.gr> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:55:51 +0200 From: dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050114041625.5FAAB16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050114041625.5FAAB16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 194.30.213.37 Subject: del key in bash or tcsh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:55:54 -0000 Dear list, Does anybody know how to change this annoying default behaviour of bash or sh in FreeBSD when somebody presses the del key? When I press the del key I want this to work as it works on any editor or in Linux bash! Anyway to achieve this? And does anybody knows how to have coloured prompt output in sh? For bash I have found the following! PS1='\[\033[02;35m\](\A)\[\033[02;34m\]\u@\[\033[02;31m\]\h \[\033[01;34m\]\W \$ \[\033[00m\]' For sh which command controls the color? Thanks in advance! D.K. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 06:19:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2A216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:19:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191B643D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:19:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from daemon.foo.com (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8286F96FFC; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:49:27 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:49:18 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050111092004.A47739@starfire.mn.org> <41E3EFF2.60100@scii.nl> <20050111223129.A50823@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111223129.A50823@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1612666.VDjPX7F7sY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501141649.26451.imoore@picknowl.com.au> cc: John cc: albi Subject: Re: How to back-rev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:19:29 -0000 --nextPart1612666.VDjPX7F7sY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:01, John wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 04:25:38PM +0100, albi wrote: > > John wrote: > > > I think I may have been too eager to go to Major Release 5 of FreeBSD. > > > I'm having a lot of trouble with my laptop - with my WIFI cards > > > freezing the system, and trying to make the swith from XFree86 > > > to Xorg. > > > > if i were you i would backup your data and try a fresh 5.3 install, > > one other thing to try first is to boot without ACPI > > You are right, albi! Turning off ACPI took care of the lock up. Thanks! > > I do miss the power management, though. Now I need to figure out > how to turn off just the part that is causing the problem. > > I am currently trying to remove all the XFree86 and kde modules from > 5.2.1 so that I can put in the Xorg stuff from 5.3. If there's a > procedure for that somewhere, that'd be awesome. /usr/ports/Updating - I followed the instructions there when I upgraded my= =20 5.2.1-RELEASE system to 5.3 & it worked like a charm. Do make sure you read 20040723 & that you have device io in your kernel. Oh, and be sure to read the 20041229 entry if you install the latest kde. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart1612666.VDjPX7F7sY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB52RufITqkXhImmIRAls1AKDPsRB8Ig7XVAG5ccarnQU/Q4zwbACgjC7p ek0OWUuCIS//EU+usMoTBNg= =L18f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1612666.VDjPX7F7sY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 06:38:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6EC16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:38:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9991943D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0E6c1RZ026657; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0E6c1iQ007231; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0E6c0GW007230; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:00 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> Message-ID: <20050114063800.GA7175@polands.org> References: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> <200501130951.17307.4711@chello.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501130951.17307.4711@chello.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:38:05 -0000 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:51:03AM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote: > On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:54, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 > > You probably destroyed your slice table here. The dd command only > makes sense if you insert whole disks (ie. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6) as > providers. Otherwise you need to create (or already have) a valid > slice table on the disk, which enables gmirror to locate and insert > your slice. > I wonder why it's documented to do that? Guess that proves I'm too green to understand the consequences of my actions. > (!) Before you start to correct your gmirror setup, please read all of > my comments, because to me it looks like you run a mirror of ad6 and > not ad6s1. > I'm quite sure I entered ad6s1 as opposed to ad6 in my commands. In retrospect, however, I think I horked up my bsdlabel for /dev/mirror/gsm0. I didn't set the offset for the a partition to 16. Perhaps that accounts for the difference? While I was waiting for a reply I messed around with the configuration and throughly broke it. It's no big deal as this is a brand new server with nothing on it but a minimal install. I want to get this gmirror working and understand it before I put the box into production. I decided to start over (re-install 5.3) and go through the instructions more carefully. I'll email the list if I have more/other problems, thanks for your help. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 06:57:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1E216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:57:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhost.frm2.tum.de (mailhost.frm2.tum.de [129.187.179.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB8743D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:57:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Joerg.Pulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: from localhost (mailhost.frm2.tum.de [129.187.179.12]) by mailhost.frm2.tum.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0E6voWE079134; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:57:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jpulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: from hades.admin.frm2 (hades.admin.frm2 [172.25.1.10]) by mailhost.frm2.tum.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0E6vjbO079130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:57:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jpulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: from hades.admin.frm2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hades.admin.frm2 (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0E6vj7d088613; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:57:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jpulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: (from jpulz@localhost) by hades.admin.frm2 (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0E6viPo088612; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:57:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jpulz) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:57:41 +0100 (CET) From: Joerg Pulz To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: <3ECB5145-65CA-11D9-B246-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Message-ID: <20050114074608.M66492@hades.admin.frm2> References: <3ECB5145-65CA-11D9-B246-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: at mailhost.frm2.tum.de cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: CyrusIMAPd, SquirrelMail, and sendmail troubles... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:57:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Eric F Crist wrote: > Hello list. > > I've got a whole slew of issues I'm hoping you can help me resolve. I > followed the instructions at http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~venkat/tutorial1.html > to install cyrusimapd. Everything seemed just fine. I tried to install > SquirrelMail, which installed fine, but I cannot log in. > > Here's what I want to do: > > 1) I want to use the regular user accounts and passwords for email. > 2) I would like to be able to access each account through either pop3s, imap, > or squirrelmail Hi, after a quick look on the website you mentioned, i saw no point where 'saslauthd' gets installed. my first dumb question: did you install it? if you have installed security/cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd, you should have '/usr/local/sbin/testsaslauthd'. please use this tool to check for the correct operation of 'saslauthd'. the website also mentioned that you have to set 'sasl_saslauthd_flags="-a sasldb"' in /etc/rc.conf, but if you want to authenticate against system accounts, this setting is completely wrong. you should either set 'sasl_saslauthd_flags="-a pam"' (this is the default) or 'sasl_saslauthd_flags="-a getpwent"' to authenticate against system accounts. i never tried the pam and getpwent variants as i use ldap to authenticate. hope this helps a litlle bit. regards Joerg - -- The beginning is the most important part of the work. -Plato -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB521oSPOsGF+KA+MRAvywAJwLG5fSY5FcDtdKELG73fvCoVUUqgCgudb9 bUHoM1SxIC84Pdyn7Pdcqtg= =JlCj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 07:04:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF98016A4CE; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:04:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from banka.binep.ac.ru (banka.binep.ac.ru [193.233.44.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D27743D49; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:04:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Received: from banka.binep.ac.ru (localhost.binep.ac.ru [127.0.0.1]) by banka.binep.ac.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442371538D; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:04:26 +0300 (MSK) Received: from byfi.binep.ac.ru (byfi.binep.ac.ru [193.233.44.234]) by banka.binep.ac.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BB315382; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:04:26 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:03:08 +0300 From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.10.03) Personal Organization: BINEPCP RAS X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <814093067.20050114100308@binep.ac.ru> To: Boris Popov In-Reply-To: <20050113080714.GH13517@vertex.kz> References: <19510236615.20050112205002@binep.ac.ru> <20050113080714.GH13517@vertex.kz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP cc: rwatson@freebsd.org cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: RELENG_4 IPX commit broke net/mars_nwe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:04:27 -0000 First, small followup: for now, i reverted netipx/ipx.h to previous version 1.15, and after system and port were rebuilt all works (not surprisingly :) Other stuff below... > On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:50:02PM +0300, Igor B. Bykhalo wrote: >> >> Looks like the follwoing commit broke net/mars_nwe port >> on my RELENG_4 file server box: > Yes, it seems to be. Mars_nwe have different idea about > added macro: > # define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host > # define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.c_net > # define ipx_netlong(iaddr) (((union ipx_net_u *)(&((iaddr).x_net)))->long_e) I see, this is from mars_nwe/emutli.h. First is identical to what rwatson commited in ipx.h v.1.15.2.1, but second is different in v.1.15.2.1: > # define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.u_net Looking at the old mars_nwe build log, i really see it's full of warnings: In file included from ../net.h:69, from ../nwserv.c:21: ../emutli.h:26: warning: `sipx_network' redefined So, the bottom line is that defines in mars_nwe/emutli.h now conflict with system defines? Sorry, i'm not a programmer myself, may be you cang give me some hints what i can try to make mars_nwe work with current ipx.h ... This is a production machine, but not very heavily used, so a couple of reboots wont't hurt anyone badly... TIA, Igor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 07:10:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3AE16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ABD43D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnc909@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-6-105-190.client.comcast.net[24.6.105.190]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005011407103501500cpj3ae>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:35 +0000 Message-ID: <41E7706A.2060109@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:10:34 -0800 From: johnc User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Macintosh/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Getting OpenBSD PF to work with 5.2.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:10:35 -0000 Hi, I can't seem to find any docs beyond what's in the handbook about how to set up pf with FreeBSD < 5.3.x I've installed pf from ports ... but config(8) doesn't seem to recognize the pf device entries at all. Any pointers to docs/other resources for the hapless freebsd-pf n00b? Thanks, -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 07:27:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16A316A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:27:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 361CE43D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 27896 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 07:27:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.74) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 07:27:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 67909 invoked by uid 1008); 14 Jan 2005 07:27:08 -0000 Received: from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.70. Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.76):. Processed in 0.152753 secs); 14 Jan 2005 07:27:08 -0000 Received: from smtp1.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.76) by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 07:27:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 13160 invoked by uid 508); 14 Jan 2005 07:27:07 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.168] (HELO bikrant.org.np) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 07:27:06 -0000 (Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:06 +0545) From: Bikrant Neupane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:00 +0545 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501141312.00737.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; -4.9 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Default LQR timeout period X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:27:16 -0000 Hi thanks for the answer. However I am trying to find solution from the server end if that is possible. Also I tried setting the InactivityTimeout to different values but still I am getting time out at 40-45 seconds :( regards, Bikrant On Thursday 13 January 2005 12:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Open up your registry editor and go to > HEKY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Modem\XXXX\Set > tings where XXXX is the number of your modem (example: 0001). On the > right pane search for a string value named InactivityTimeout. Enter the > new timeout rate in minutes. For example enter 30 for a 30 minutes > timeout. > > From: > > http://www.activewin.com/tips/reg/connect_1.shtml > > Time it took me to find this - 45 seconds. It took you longer > to post the request than to type it into a search engine. > > Ted > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > > Bikrant Neupane > > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:51 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-net@freebsd.org > > Subject: Default LQR timeout period > > > > > > Hi > > > > We have pppoe server running on FreeBSD 4.9 and 90% of our > > wireless clients > > are using MS Windows OS to access the service. I have noticed > > that when ever > > there is some problem in the link ( due to AP or SM reboot, > > switch reboot etc > > etc ) the pppoe connection closes. I have also noticed that > > the MS Windows > > client closes connection at 40-45 seconds after the link is > > down. I tried to > > increase default LQR timeout period at Server by using set > > lqrtimeout to some > > higher values. That did affected the serverside ppp process > > but the MS client > > still disconnected at 40-45 seconds. :( > > > > I prefer to set the timeout period somewhere between 120-150 > > seconds so that > > even if there is problem in the link the client doesn't get > > the disconnect > > notice and have to reconnect again and the client and servers > > are able to > > continue same session. > > > > Is there any way to control the default LQR timeout period of > > the Client from > > the Server end?? > > > > My question is more related with ms windows still I am asking > > this question to > > freebsd group so that I can solve the problem from the server end ;) > > > > regards, > > Bikrant > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 07:39:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790E816A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:39:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de (antsrv2.ant.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59FC43D54 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de) Received: from bremerhaven.ant.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.176.10]) by antsrv2.ant.uni-bremen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1CpM2z-0004CE-5N; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:39:05 +0100 Message-ID: <41E77719.3000505@ant.uni-bremen.de> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:39:05 +0100 From: Heinrich Rebehn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041124 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: albi References: <35F05B14-6596-11D9-8196-000A956EB07E@partners.org> <41E6C8B0.1020602@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <41E6C8B0.1020602@scii.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "antsrv2.ant.uni-bremen.de", hasmessageblock similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X. But, I >> figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via >> `ssh -X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do >> the display. However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', >> when I `ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set. > > > did you enable X-forwarding in the sshd-config ? afaik indeed only the > X-libraries are needed to make remote X over ssh work > For X-forwarding to work, have to install xorg-clients too. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:39:08 -0000 albi wrote: > Richard Morse wrote: > >> Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X. But, I >> figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via >> `ssh -X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do >> the display. However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', >> when I `ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set. > > > did you enable X-forwarding in the sshd-config ? afaik indeed only the > X-libraries are needed to make remote X over ssh work > For X-forwarding to work, you need to have /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth on your server. That is, you have to install xorg-clients too. -- Heinrich Rebehn University of Bremen Physics / Electrical and Electronics Engineering - Department of Telecommunications - Phone : +49/421/218-4664 Fax : -3341 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 08:03:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DCF16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:03:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429C543D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:03:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD95426ED.dip.t-dialin.net [217.84.38.237]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940B52F420; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:03:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E77CD6.9070703@incubus.de> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:03:34 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr References: <20050114041625.5FAAB16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> <1105682151.41e75ee75d681@webmail.uoi.gr> In-Reply-To: <1105682151.41e75ee75d681@webmail.uoi.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: del key in bash or tcsh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:03:40 -0000 dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr wrote: > Does anybody know how to change this > annoying default behaviour of bash or sh > in FreeBSD when somebody presses the del key? > When I press the del key I want this to work > as it works on any editor or in Linux bash! > Anyway to achieve this? as we cannot guess what the behaviour that you desire actually is, I'm contributing a few tips: - configure xterm (or the terminal emulator you're using) to emit the appropriate key sequence when the "delete" key is hit. In xterm, this can be done via X resources, see xterm(1). For example, make it send ^?. - set the terminal line discipline's erase key to that key (see stty(1)), or use bash's readline keybindings functionality to bind that key to the function you like. I'm not that familiar with readline or bash but it's doable and described in either the bash manpage, or readline's documentation (info files). > For sh which command controls the color? none. mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 08:35:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E653E16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:35:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C4B43D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:35:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (adsl-68-76-44-196.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [68.76.44.196]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F51C17D027 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:35:12 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: <1E7FDB38-5E7A-11D9-AD10-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <200501050841.03874.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> <0AAB74E3-5F2E-11D9-BE17-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <49600.24.11.146.21.1104942926.squirrel@24.11.146.21> <20050110161931.A97453@mister.mcgoonet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <332D9803-6607-11D9-AADC-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:35:09 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: SOLVED! Dial-in PPP FreeBSD 5.3 (was Re: m'gettying closer! (was Re: modem not responding to mgetty) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:35:15 -0000 a minor p.s. to my notes, I forgot this line for the mgetty login.conf: /AutoPPP/ - - /etc/ppp/ppp-pap-dialup which is crucial to making this work. Also, you may have to edit /etc/passwd manually to get it to accept a shell not listed in /etc/shells. Otherwise, I reinstalled 5.3 on a new drive today and the dialin seemed to work.... EXCEPT that I had changed my home network from 192.168.2.x to 192.168.1.x... which wasn't a problem until I dialed in, and suddenly there were TWO 192.168.1.1 machines. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 09:15:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359C516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:15:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF4E43D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:15:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9862C28649; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:15:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id C60C8287F5; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:57:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2577A6230; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:57:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0E7vWiE053714; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:57:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:57:32 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050114085223.O802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050113204937.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Memory Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:15:02 -0000 > > If you want to be made fun of, this is the type of question that will push > you in that direction (references 'Thanks You!' thread). ;) Your colleague > is probably running more applications/services than you, which is why he has > less available memory. To use up some of that memory, simply start up some > more applications. Eric; Thanks! :) It *was* a serious well intentioned question, I just had no clue what to make of the top output. Unix sort of handles things differently than Windows memory-wise, and only having had access to older lower powered *nix machines previously, I wasn't used to seeing stats such as I posted. The question was answered in the thread though I gotta say. Your point is well taken however, and your quiet cautionary note is well understood. Thanks for taking the time to warn me against stuff like this. (It's really hard to begin to know where to start learning some of this stuff sometimes!!) Kind Regards, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 09:48:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8145816A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:48:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C8943D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:48:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD95426ED.dip.t-dialin.net [217.84.38.237]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF9C2EC3A for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:48:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E79587.3080101@incubus.de> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:48:55 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: apm on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:48:58 -0000 I'm trying to get APM to work (ACPI makes the kernel crap itself when I insert or remove a pcmcia card into my Armada m700 notebook) and load the apm.ko from loader.conf. However, it doesn't seem to create the necessary device entry /dev/apm, and apmd and apm(8) complain about that. What's the proper way to enable apm on 5.3-STABLE? Or, any way to enable it at all? Do I have to compile the driver into the kernel instead? mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 09:49:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6692B16A4CE; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD38A43D45; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0E9mwNd031493; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:59 +0200 Received: by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E6B212A430; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:58 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:58 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Huppi Message-ID: <20050114094858.GC30089@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050113204932.2BAD643D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20050113214735.GA1258@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: Keith Bottner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:06 -0000 On 2005-01-13 20:13, Tom Huppi wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1]. >> >> The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating >> systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant >> manual tweaking of the source. > > At work (former), I was responsible for code which was to *compile* on > 6 or 7 different platforms. I choose one (often my FreeBSD > workstation) upon which to execute the auto-tools and didn't bother > with most of the others though I kept a compatible set of these tools > on Linux and Solaris for convenience. Very well said. I'd only like to note that the important thing to note here is: 'a compatible set of these tools' > Indeed, the whole paradigm behind these tools is that they should > _not_ be needed on the target platform. 'autoconf' goes to great > pains to generate platform independent Bourne shell configure script > for a very good reason! The compatibility problems are usually encountered long before the program reaches 'the target platform'. The generated Bourne shell scripts are indeed very platform independent. The autoconf/automake stuff used to write them is not though. > Unfortunately too many people either misunderstand the paradigm and/or > or mis-use the tools and I suspect that this is a good portion of the > reason why the FreeBSD ports infrastructure needs to play so many > silly games with the auto-tools. No, the reason the Ports go through all the hoops you see is that they are meant to be used by people who don't care or don't need to know the internals of the autotools. They just need a version that 'works good enough for installing port foo/bar-1.2.3'. One other reason is, of course, the fact that the autotools have changed and are constantly changing the 'canonical' way of writing their input files. This is both a good and bad thing, depending on the viewpoint. It is a good thing, because it shows that they are alive, actively maintained projects. It is a bad thing, because every time a developer tries to regenerate the `configure' scripts and all associated files with a mismatched autotools version, they are forced to either: a) install the exact same versions the original configure.ac scripts have been written for, or b) abandon the idea of using autotools altogether. I usually go for (a), if I have a choise. The ports people do not have that choise, because they need to support programs coming from various sources, with the minimal amount of changes to the original program source. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 10:05:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052B916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:05:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.68.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A1143D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:05:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3/d) with ESMTP id j0EA4vu7020539; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:04:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:04:57 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200501141004.j0EA4vc3020538@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ml.diespammer@netfence.it Subject: Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:05:01 -0000 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:38:08 +0100 Andrea Venturoli wrote: >Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> Andrea Venturoli writes: >> >> AV> Not exactly the same algorithm and on different set of data. >> >> But similar machine instructions, perhaps? > >Yes, both numerical computations. >Basically one thread would model geometry and the other would mesh it. >Frequent stall would arise, as the two process would only by chance >require the same time, even so the two CPUs were always at full load >(!?!?!?). I also tried different combinations, e.g. three modelling Makes sense. >threads and one mesher with, again, equal timings. > >BTW, it's worth to mention, I *have* to use a compiler that knows >nothing about SSE or the like, so all is done with FPU instructions as >in the old 387s... > That may make each thread take longer than if it could use the SSE instructions, but is unrelated to your other issue. > >> Just the contention for the FPU alone might have had the effect of >> single-threading the workload. > >I've come to the same conclusion. Still I can't put this together with >100% load on both processors. If, as someone said, there is only one >FPU, *how* are these figures coming out??? I would have expected >something like 50%-50% (instead of 100%-0% of the single threaded >version). *If* there is only one FPU, I'd expect both virtual processors >being frequently idle waiting for each other. > They most likely are. You seem to be forgetting that the "idling" in question is handled within the CPU, not by the kernel. In other words, it happens effectively *during* an instruction on the "idled" core, not by kernel processing between thread switches, so the instruction just takes longer than it otherwise would, sort of like waiting for a memory access to complete. No interrupt occurs. The core just sits and twiddles its electrons until the resource it's queued upon becomes available to it, and then it proceeds to complete the "idled" instruction. > >> That plus the SMP overhead might give >> you a zero or negative gain with HT. > >I tried a multithreaded version on a UP machine (nonsense, I know): the >locking overhead is there, but very minimal: a process which takes 16 >minutes will require, maybe, 3 seconds more. > Was that using MPI? Or some other thread management package? Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 10:55:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E3B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:55:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BC443D45 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:55:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0EAtcAM012638 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:55:41 -0500 Message-ID: <41E7A524.4080307@schmittnet.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:55:32 -0500 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Increasing Semaphores X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:55:42 -0000 Over the past few days, I had some problems with too few connections availabe for postgresql. I resolved them for the short term, but when I tried setting the max_connections for postgresql as high as 64, I received a message indicating that I had to increase the semaphores available in the kernel before I could do that, which seems to require a recompile of the kernel. I haven't compiled the kernel before, so this is new to me. Before I go ahead and do that, after reading through the handbook, etc., I wanted to ask if there were any gotcha's I should be aware of. IOW, would increasing the number of semaphores available have any cascading effect in general, all other things being equal? I'm running FBSD 4.9. Thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 10:59:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B1916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:59:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011B943D48 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:59:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdquestions@mail.ru) Received: from [217.23.28.203] (port=1926 helo=flux.nts.nnov.ru) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CpPAr-0003FV-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:59:25 +0300 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:59:21 +0300 From: Sergey Kulikov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <721344349.20050114135921@mail.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sergey Kulikov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:59:27 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 11:14:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0337616A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:14:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp04.eresmas.com (asmtp04.eresmas.com [62.81.235.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEF243D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:14:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.54] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp04.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CpPPA-0003on-BA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:14:12 +0100 Received: from [80.103.42.34] (helo=[80.103.42.34]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CpPOi-00052D-SM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:14:11 +0100 Message-ID: <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:13:04 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> In-Reply-To: <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:14:15 -0000 Hello FreeBSD Friends. I have just arrived to the FreeBSD world. I am not an expert on anything, I am only a computer fan and use my computer mainly for my engineering work and hobbies (amateur radio, photography, astronomy, etc.). I come from a happy Debian GNU/Linux experience. I paid attention on FreeBSD when reading a Linux magazine and installed it two months ago. I really do not have any important reasons to change, but I admit that I am impressed and I like FreeBSD very much, and my interest on it is incresing everyday. I like its centralized development and its separation between the OS and the ports. Perhaps one day I will do the change, but I first must feel safe and confortable with the FreeBSD, the same that when I changed from WinDog to Linux. I do not like linux-FreeBSD wars. I hate them. Both are good operating systems with their pros and cons. Many of you tell that Linux is a desktop OS, and that it is a chaothic OS. I do not agree with that, and If you argue that, you do not know Linux well. When I speak about Linux, I mean Debian or Gentoo. I do not think that they are chaothic or intended for desktop. Debian put all the pieces together in one OS that is in order and works nicely. Gentoo portage philosophy is similiar to FreeBSD ports. People on the FreeBSD and Debian GNU/Linux mailing lists are very kind and help you in any case, if you ask questions politely and you have searched and read tha manuals first. So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against the Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. I have never heard a bad word about FreeBSD on the Linux lists. Indeed, I think that most of Linux people do not even know thet FreeBSD exists, some of them think that it is another Linux distribution. On the oposite side, I have heard several people hating Linux on this list, even comparing it with WinDogs :-( I hate the following wars: BSD license vs GPL license Linux vs xBSD GNOME vs KDE bash vs tcsh text apps vs X apps CUPS vs lpr I think we should cooperate instead of fighting. Indeed, BSD code is on Linux OSes, and GNU software is on FreeBSD ports...... etc... Thank you very much and sorry for my bad english. Just my 2 euro cents. Ramiro Aceves. (Spain) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 11:42:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F9116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:42:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.sohotech.ca (mx1.sohotech.ca [64.26.169.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B20043D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:42:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ebudd@grokking.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.sohotech.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7602280CD for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.sohotech.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.sohotech.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11381-10 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (chomsky.sohotech.ca [192.168.1.6]) by mx2.sohotech.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6351D1B9D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:42:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E7B00C.8020800@grokking.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:42:04 -0500 From: Ed Budd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041223) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> In-Reply-To: <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sohotech.ca Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:42:09 -0000 Ramiro Aceves wrote: > Hello FreeBSD Friends. > > I have just arrived to the FreeBSD world. I am not an expert on > anything, I am only a computer fan and use my computer mainly for my > engineering work and hobbies (amateur radio, photography, astronomy, > etc.). I come from a happy Debian GNU/Linux experience. I paid > attention on FreeBSD when reading a Linux magazine and installed it two > months ago. I really do not have any important reasons to change, but I > admit that I am impressed and I like FreeBSD very much, and my interest > on it is incresing everyday. I like its centralized development and > its separation between the OS and the ports. Perhaps one day I will do > the change, but I first must feel safe and confortable with the FreeBSD, > the same that when I changed from WinDog to Linux. > > I do not like linux-FreeBSD wars. I hate them. Both are good operating > systems with their pros and cons. Many of you tell that Linux is a > desktop OS, and that it is a chaothic OS. I do not agree with that, and > If you argue that, you do not know Linux well. When I speak about Linux, > I mean Debian or Gentoo. I do not think that they are chaothic or > intended for desktop. Debian put all the pieces together in one OS that > is in order and works nicely. Gentoo portage philosophy is similiar to > FreeBSD ports. > > People on the FreeBSD and Debian GNU/Linux mailing lists are very kind > and help you in any case, if you ask questions politely and you have > searched and read tha manuals first. > So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against the > Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. I have never heard a bad > word about FreeBSD on the Linux lists. Indeed, I think that most of > Linux people do not even know thet FreeBSD exists, some of them think > that it is another Linux distribution. On the oposite side, I have heard > several people hating Linux on this list, even comparing it with > WinDogs :-( > > > I hate the following wars: > > BSD license vs GPL license > Linux vs xBSD > GNOME vs KDE > bash vs tcsh > text apps vs X apps > CUPS vs lpr > > I think we should cooperate instead of fighting. Indeed, BSD code is on > Linux OSes, and GNU software is on FreeBSD ports...... etc... > > Thank you very much and sorry for my bad english. > > Just my 2 euro cents. > FWIW I share your sentiments. FreeBSD absolutely rocks IMO, but so does OpenBSD and Gentoo. I use all three in areas I've felt play to their particular strengths and personalities. Having been on this list for many months now, I have also observed that there are plenty of other multi-platform folks hanging out here. I think the anti-Linux crowd is in the minority (though occasionally quite vocal). Most of us have enough "love" to share across multiple operating systems. Er...except Windows...that just sucks :) EB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 11:53:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178C316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:53:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.in.markiza.sk [62.168.76.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0129843D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:53:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@pleiades.aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7336EB853 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:57:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77931-04 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:57:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (pleiades.markiza.sk [192.168.0.7]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F28B84E for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:57:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by pleiades.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC787E80B for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:17 +0100 (CET) Received: (from corwin@localhost) by pleiades.aeternal.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0EBrGfr024087 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from corwin) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:16 +0100 From: martin hudec To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114115316.GM13663@pleiades.aeternal.net> References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="w2xx78T4DcG3O+DJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> X-Copyright: (C) 2004 Martin Hudec X-Operating-System: FreeBSD pleiades.aeternal.net 6.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.aeternal.net/corwin_aeternal.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: martin hudec List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:53:16 -0000 --w2xx78T4DcG3O+DJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:13:04PM +0100 or thereabouts, Ramiro Aceves wrot= e: > If you argue that, you do not know Linux well. When I speak about Linux,= =20 > I mean Debian or Gentoo. I do not think that they are chaothic or=20 > intended for desktop. Debian put all the pieces together in one OS that= =20 > is in order and works nicely. Gentoo portage philosophy is similiar to=20 > FreeBSD ports. Debian and Gentoo distributions are not chaotic, but I think that Gentoo is primarily oriented for desktop, although one can use it happily as server. Gentoo portage is inspired by ports :). > So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against the=20 > Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. I have never heard a bad= =20 > word about FreeBSD on the Linux lists.=20 =20 What is meaning of your words? I am missing the point. You are asking why is someone starting the war? And on other hand you say that we should fight against Microsoft OSes? This kind of hatred is in my humble opinion sign of inmaturity. It is really so hard to respect others? To respect their choices, reasons? Why? If one could invest his time he puts into hatred aimed towards Microsoft, if one could invest it to further promote/develop his OS of choice instead, then it would definitely be a better world for my servers and desktops to live in. Don't you think? > I hate the following wars: > BSD license vs GPL license > Linux vs xBSD > GNOME vs KDE > bash vs tcsh > text apps vs X apps > CUPS vs lpr I just add: Windows vs Linux/Unix. > I think we should cooperate instead of fighting. Indeed, BSD code is on= =20 > Linux OSes, and GNU software is on FreeBSD ports...... etc... If you are really that nice, why are you inducing others to make war with Windows? :) Cheers, Martin =09 --=20 martin hudec * 421 907 303 393 * corwin@aeternal.net * http://www.aeternal.net "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible=20 exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws." Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" --w2xx78T4DcG3O+DJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB57KsZYEZIv+rgggRAqefAJsGYkQmu69/48LlcR7pcbNs/5FvBgCggntx mee5dT8Z3yvd5+NfOiiqsIg= =pIWy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --w2xx78T4DcG3O+DJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 11:55:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605AB16A537 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:55:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gawab.com (www.gawab.com [204.97.230.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE63143D48 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:55:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jadukor@gawab.com) Received: (qmail 19235 invoked by uid 1004); 14 Jan 2005 11:53:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20050114115346.19233.qmail@gawab.com> Received: from 202.84.41.6 by www.gawab.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:53:46 GMT From: "Emon" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:53:46 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [202.84.41.6] Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:55:32 -0000 Hello every one I am nwebie running FreeBSD 5.3 I was tryimg to install the mc-4.6.0_13.tgz pkg but it gave me a load of depedencies which I had to painfulluy downloaded usinf my dial-up connection. #pkg_add mc-4.6.0_13.tgz pkg_add: could not find package p5-File-Spec-0.90 ! pkg_add: could not find package p5-PodParser-1.28_1 ! pkg_add: could not find package p5-Test-Harness-2.42 ! pkg_add: could not find package p5-Test-Simple-0.47_1 ! pkg_add: could not find package p5-File-Temp-0.14_1 ! # Then I had to download gettext-0.13.1_1.tgz & glib-2.4.6.tgz But now some of the packages were complaining that an older version is installed & I had no idea how to upgrade these packages. So in my blind rage I did "pkg_add -vf" on all packages including mc. Now mc works but I cannot uninstall it or any of the packages. I will show you an example. # pkg_add mc-4.6.0_13.tgz pkg_add: package 'mc-4.6.0_13' or its older version already installed # pkg_delete mc-4.6.0_13.tgz pkg_delete: no such package 'mc-4.6.0_13.tgz' installed # Now how on earth is that possible?? First it says "older version already installed" & than it says "no such package 'mc-4.6.0_13.tgz' installed". I am very new to the world of UNIX, before BSD I had a couple of months experience with SLACKWARE, & it was pretty cool, I could install/uninstall/upgrade packages pretty easily. Maybe I haven't read the HandBoook carefuly..., I don't know... somebody please tell me how to get this right... please Thanks --------------------------------------------- Free POP3 Email from www.Gawab.com Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 12:05:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0187416A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:05:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E814943D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost.daemonsecurity.com [127.0.0.1]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EBBFD022; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:05:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E7B573.6020202@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:05:07 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emon References: <20050114115346.19233.qmail@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: <20050114115346.19233.qmail@gawab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:05:21 -0000 Emon wrote: > But now some of the packages were complaining that an older > version is installed & I had no idea how to upgrade these > packages. > > So in my blind rage I did "pkg_add -vf" on all packages > including mc. > > Now mc works but I cannot uninstall it or any of the packages. I > will show you an example. > > > # pkg_add mc-4.6.0_13.tgz > pkg_add: package 'mc-4.6.0_13' or its older version already > installed > # pkg_delete mc-4.6.0_13.tgz > pkg_delete: no such package 'mc-4.6.0_13.tgz' installed > # > > Now how on earth is that possible?? First it says "older version > already installed" & than it says "no such package > 'mc-4.6.0_13.tgz' installed". Yeah, maybe it is not completely clear. When you use pkg_add you give it a tgz file containing the package. When you want to delete it, you must give the package name, usually the same but without the tgz extension. Some tricks: It is often helpfull to search for what version of a package is installed when you get that kind of error: # pkg_info -x mc the -x is regular expresion, so all packages containing mc will match, in this case mc-4 is probably better. You can also use pkg_delete with -x option, but be carefull! When using packages, make sure you download packages for the same release, this way you should not get such errors as "older version installed". Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 12:34:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8908B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:34:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4956843D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:34:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0709.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 205571C000B1 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0709.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 093D31C000B5 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:33 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1516886302.20050114133433@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:34:35 -0000 Ramiro Aceves writes: RA> So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against the RA> Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. Professionals and serious amateurs in IT never wage "wars" at all. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 12:41:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81C216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:41:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61203.mail.yahoo.com (web61203.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FF6D43D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:41:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grinny3004@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 89370 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 12:41:03 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=UY+ByPRt4lci07suu6u5kJ3+Kntt77zXwb3DOf5d6npdRAntLFYy/ddESIysvuSAGmekhfLAJvCoBHMn//iBoQspTZeLhbic6v9iz+YXnBQep03E0WYZXcsa0PXOH7dm5eIlbAyDcwTGwUdOE+hMLJUXUiam9QongmeK5EClS8k= ; Message-ID: <20050114124103.89368.qmail@web61203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [82.161.36.157] by web61203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:41:03 PST Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:41:03 -0800 (PST) From: lord grinny To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:41:05 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Ramiro Aceves writes: > >RA> So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against the >RA> Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. > >Professionals and serious amateurs in IT never wage "wars" at all. > > > Don't they?? Then what are all the law suits about? GRINNY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 12:43:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C5D16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:43:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC7043D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:43:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0F7F51800084 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0707.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE14318000B7 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:48 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19410527292.20050114134348@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050114124103.89368.qmail@web61203.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050114124103.89368.qmail@web61203.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:43:50 -0000 lord grinny writes: lg> Don't they?? Then what are all the law suits about? Business. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 12:46:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5A516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:46:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.in.markiza.sk [62.168.76.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A66643D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:46:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@pleiades.aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA30EB848 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:50:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78624-01 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:50:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (pleiades.markiza.sk [192.168.0.7]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18EEB818 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:50:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by pleiades.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761417E80B for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:46:19 +0100 (CET) Received: (from corwin@localhost) by pleiades.aeternal.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0ECkJll024775 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:46:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from corwin) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:46:19 +0100 From: martin hudec To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114124618.GO13663@pleiades.aeternal.net> References: <20050114124103.89368.qmail@web61203.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f0PSjARDFl/vfYT5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050114124103.89368.qmail@web61203.mail.yahoo.com> X-Copyright: (C) 2004 Martin Hudec X-Operating-System: FreeBSD pleiades.aeternal.net 6.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.aeternal.net/corwin_aeternal.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: martin hudec List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:46:17 -0000 --f0PSjARDFl/vfYT5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 04:41:03AM -0800 or thereabouts, lord grinny wrote: > Don't they?? Then what are all the law suits about? Simple, dear Watson. About human stupidity and greed. Cheers, Martin --=20 martin hudec * 421 907 303 393 * corwin@aeternal.net * http://www.aeternal.net "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible=20 exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws." Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" --f0PSjARDFl/vfYT5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB578aZYEZIv+rgggRAn3FAJ4zT6cqS5ARpBL0aDPgWZzYOAepIwCfdHhi sCkCiS2Xs/Jb9zeFaEBA3AQ= =J93L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f0PSjARDFl/vfYT5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 12:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A2F16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:55:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E6043D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:55:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0ECt4rO006610 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:55:04 +0200 Received: by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DADEE2A431; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:55:03 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:55:03 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114125503.GA900@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> <1516886302.20050114133433@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1516886302.20050114133433@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:55:12 -0000 On 2005-01-14 13:34, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Ramiro Aceves writes: >> So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against the >> Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. > > Professionals and serious amateurs in IT never wage "wars" at all. Well said. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 12:58:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B206916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:58:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598EC43D54 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:58:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CpR1f-00042g-RB; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:58:03 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:58:26 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050114124103.89368.qmail@web61203.mail.yahoo.com> <19410527292.20050114134348@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <19410527292.20050114134348@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501140658.26424.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc04259824079a79d230fb54bc9418b819350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:58:04 -0000 On Friday 14 January 2005 06:43 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > lord grinny writes: > > lg> Don't they?? Then what are all the law suits about? > > Business. I respectfully disagree. Business is people. People who do business well abhor lawsuits. "Lawyers are like nuclear missiles -- they have theirs, so we have ours. But once you use them, they f**k everything up." -- Larry the Liquidator (Danny Devito's role in "Other Peoples Money"): Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 13:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08D616A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com (web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.165.102.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D061443D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from relax_n_think@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.11.24.223] by web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:18 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:18 +0000 (GMT) From: relax think To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: DNS: querying route DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:23 -0000 hi, i want to query root servers directly instead of my ISP dns and for tht have used couple of commands like " tracert " and route through (RT) but wasnt able to query root server directly , if u know how to directly query root server thn plz help thanks Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 13:11:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39EB16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F2643D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CpREd-0000mc-Ty; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:11:28 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:11:50 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> In-Reply-To: <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501140711.50695.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcd21299590257a3f4e9f8747d5b4c2e6c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Ramiro Aceves Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:29 -0000 On Friday 14 January 2005 05:13 am, Ramiro Aceves wrote: > Hello FreeBSD Friends. > > I have just arrived to the FreeBSD world. I am not an expert on > anything, I am only a computer fan and use my computer mainly for my > engineering work and hobbies (amateur radio, photography, astronomy, > etc.). I come from a happy Debian GNU/Linux experience. I paid > attention on FreeBSD when reading a Linux magazine and installed it > two months ago. I really do not have any important reasons to change, > but I admit that I am impressed and I like FreeBSD very much, and my > interest on it is incresing everyday. I like its centralized > development and its separation between the OS and the ports. Perhaps > one day I will do the change, but I first must feel safe and > confortable with the FreeBSD, the same that when I changed from > WinDog to Linux. > > I do not like linux-FreeBSD wars. I hate them. Both are good > operating systems with their pros and cons. Many of you tell that > Linux is a desktop OS, and that it is a chaothic OS. I do not agree > with that, and If you argue that, you do not know Linux well. When I > speak about Linux, I mean Debian or Gentoo. I do not think that they > are chaothic or intended for desktop. Debian put all the pieces > together in one OS that is in order and works nicely. Gentoo portage > philosophy is similiar to FreeBSD ports. > > People on the FreeBSD and Debian GNU/Linux mailing lists are very > kind and help you in any case, if you ask questions politely and you > have searched and read tha manuals first. > So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against > the Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. I have never heard When you focus against anything, you risk losing focus on constructive goals. > a bad word about FreeBSD on the Linux lists. Indeed, I think that > most of Linux people do not even know thet FreeBSD exists, some of > them think that it is another Linux distribution. On the oposite Yes, there's even a hardware vendor (http://www.sub300.com/) that lists FreeBSD under "Other Linux Distribution." > side, I have heard several people hating Linux on this list, even > comparing it with WinDogs :-( > > > I hate the following wars: > > BSD license vs GPL license > Linux vs xBSD > GNOME vs KDE > bash vs tcsh > text apps vs X apps > CUPS vs lpr Did you forget Linux vs Gnu Linux? ;-) > > I think we should cooperate instead of fighting. Indeed, BSD code is > on Linux OSes, and GNU software is on FreeBSD ports...... etc... > > Thank you very much and sorry for my bad english. > > Just my 2 euro cents. > > Ramiro Aceves. (Spain) > Best regards, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 13:27:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95FF16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:27:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E94A43D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:27:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO chesed.razorfever.net) (plick@rogers.com@70.25.112.61 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 13:17:42 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (newskool.razorfever.net [192.168.0.10]) j0EDHfin036749 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:17:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Message-ID: <41E7C675.4040703@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:17:42 -0500 From: Derek User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j Subject: Re: Replacing both disks in RAID1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:27:19 -0000 Toomas Aas wrote: > 1. Attach one of the new drives to free ICH4 IDE port on motherboard, > partition it and transfer the data using dump/tar. At this stage, I would recommend doing this in single user mode, to keep filesystem modifications during the procedure down. I typically use dump for all partitions when in single user mode like so: #adjkerntz -i #swapon -a #mount -a ... #mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt/newroot ... /mnt/newroot# dump 0af - / | restore xf - /mnt/newtmp# dump 0af - /tmp | restore xf - ...etc > 2. Remove the 80 GB drives, attach 200 GB drives (one with data, one > blank) to TX2 IDE ports and re-create the mirror using Promise onboard > BIOS utility. I would go with this if you can afford the time. On servers that we don't want down for long, I recreate the mirror in the BIOS, let it mirror to 1%, and then reboot (ignoring the RAID error), and start rebuilding with atacontrol. It still takes a while, and the server is slow because of the excessive disk i/o, but it is responding. > 3. Reboot, fix the fstab (if necessary) and be done with it. Shouldn't need a reboot/mess with fstab if you are careful. From my experience with the Promise cards, this is the way to go. I've had to upgrade serveral machines, as we've been using the cards in production. The one caveat that I would warn you about is making sure that all your corresponding partitions line up, to prevent having to mess with fstab (and have the data in the same relative physical location on the drive) So if your fstab looks something like: /dev/ar0s1b none swap... /dev/ar0s1a / ufs... /dev/ar0s1f /tmp ufs... /dev/ar0s1g /usr ufs... /dev/ar0s1e /var ufs.... Make sure that your new disk label's partions correpond to the lettering: newswap -> /dev/ad0s1b newroot -> /dev/ad0s1a newtmp -> /dev/ad0s1f newusr -> /dev/ad0s1g newvar -> /dev/ad0s1e You don't need any dumping for the swapfs. I don't know what will happen if you do, never tried. Cheers, Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 13:33:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F4816A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:33:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp01.eresmas.com (asmtp05.eresmas.com [62.81.235.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DF843D5D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:33:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.60] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp01.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CpRZW-0007DC-2c; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:33:02 +0100 Received: from [80.103.15.133] (helo=[80.103.15.133]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CpRZV-00021x-3V; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:33:02 +0100 Message-ID: <41E7CA46.40609@wanadoo.es> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:33:58 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martin hudec References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> <20050114115316.GM13663@pleiades.aeternal.net> In-Reply-To: <20050114115316.GM13663@pleiades.aeternal.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:33:05 -0000 martin hudec wrote: MH> Hello, MH> MH> On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:13:04PM +0100 or thereabouts, RA>>miro Aceves wrote: MH> RA>>If you argue that, you do not know Linux well. When I speak about Linux, RA>>I mean Debian or Gentoo. I do not think that they are chaothic or RA>>intended for desktop. Debian put all the pieces together in one OS that RA>>is in order and works nicely. Gentoo portage philosophy is similiar to RA>>FreeBSD ports. MH> MH> MH> Debian and Gentoo distributions are not chaotic, but I think that MH> Gentoo is primarily oriented for desktop, although one can use it MH> happily as server. Gentoo portage is inspired by ports :). MH> MH> Ok, you are right. RA>>So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against the RA>>Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. I have never heard a bad RA>>word about FreeBSD on the Linux lists. MH> MH> MH> What is meaning of your words? I am missing the point. You are asking MH> why is someone starting the war? And on other hand you say that we MH> should fight against Microsoft OSes? This kind of hatred is in my Sorry, my english is so bad that I can not say everything I think. I do not like to start wars among free OSes, I enjoy fighting the Bill OSes. MH> humble opinion sign of inmaturity. It is really so hard to respect MH> others? To respect their choices, reasons? Why? If one could invest MH> his time he puts into hatred aimed towards Microsoft, if one could MH> invest it to further promote/develop his OS of choice instead, then it MH> would definitely be a better world for my servers and desktops to live MH> in. Don't you think? For me, making the war against Bill OSes means using Free Software OSes (Debian, Gentoo, FreeBSD.......)instead Bill's one. Everybody is free to use the OS he like, so I choose FreeBSD or Linux simply because for me they are better. I also try to evangelize my friends here in my city to use free software, but at the moment, it has been a difficult task. MH> MH> RA>>I hate the following wars: RA>>BSD license vs GPL license RA>>Linux vs xBSD RA>>GNOME vs KDE RA>>bash vs tcsh RA>>text apps vs X apps RA>>CUPS vs lpr MH> MH> MH> I just add: Windows vs Linux/Unix. MH> MH> RA>>I think we should coopeRA>>te instead of fighting. Indeed, BSD code is on RA>>Linux OSes, and GNU software is on FreeBSD ports...... etc... MHMH> MHMH> MHMH> If you are really that nice, why are you inducing others to make war MHMH> with Windows? :) By making the war, as I stated above, I mean using FreeSoftware instead propietary one. MHMH> MHMH> MHMH> Cheers, MHMH> MHMH> Martin MHMH> Thanks for your response. Ramiro. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 13:33:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898AC16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:33:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from linares.terra.com.br (linares.terra.com.br [200.154.55.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9447043D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:33:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linux@pichler.com.br) Received: from estero.terra.com.br (estero.terra.com.br [200.154.55.138]) by linares.terra.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12B1DDC68E for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:33:43 -0200 (BRST) X-Terra-Karma: -2% X-Terra-Hash: 1cfa5abf664b5d13c4490a6a0703d728 Received: from pichler (unknown [200.152.0.163]) (authenticated user ricardopichler@terra.com.br) by estero.terra.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AB23C088 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:33:43 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <013701c4fa3d$aa85c8e0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> From: "Ricardo Pichler" To: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:33:43 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.224 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.224 Subject: Syslog server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:33:46 -0000 Hi folks, I've an slackware box that your main function is be a syslog server! Ok, it work, but I need to separate the log for each box that I've in files with the same name of box. Can anybody help me? e.g.: an entry in my /var/log/messages: Jan 13 18:11:49 ns500 ns500-sjc: NetScreen device_id=ns500-sjc [Root]system-notification-00018: Policy ...... Regards, Ricardo Pichler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 13:34:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F214616A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8120843D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CpRaz-0001yI-30 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:34:33 -0900 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:34:33 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: perl -MCPAN -e shell question - need a howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:40 -0000 Using FreeBSD 4.10 stable, perl-5.8.5 installed from ports. su-2.05b# perl -v This is perl, v5.8.5 built for i386-freebsd-64int When using perl -MCPAN -e shell, I can install the bundle fine, but the when I try to install XML::DOM, or Text::Aspell, they fail. Where can I go for help on getting the bsdpan ports installed? Or is there a howto on this stuff because I am clueless? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 13:41:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB1A16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:41:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7865243D54 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD9D97917; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:41:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])j0EDfMMX069344; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:41:31 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41E7CBFB.1090603@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:41:15 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041229) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: relax think References: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2E29394C01059F52F5E1529B" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS: querying route DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:41:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2E29394C01059F52F5E1529B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit relax think wrote: > i want to query root servers directly instead of my ISP dns and for tht have used couple of commands > like " tracert " and route through (RT) but wasnt able to query root server directly , > if u know how to directly query root server thn plz help Use dig(1). Eg. to see the nameservers that the cn domain is delegated to try: % dig @f.root-servers.net cn IN NS Although I can't really see much point in doing this -- the root servers will only return actual answers to queries about top level domains (see http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm and http://www.iana.org/gtld/gtld.htm ) -- otherwise, and the vast majority of the time, they'll just tell you to go and bother some other nameserver which has data about the next level down the domain hierarchy. If your ISPs nameservers are unreliable or overloaded, and not giving you a good service, then one course of action you might consider is just configuring the named(8) built into your FreeBSD system to do recursive DNS lookups for you. (And caching -- but that's a given for any sort of DNS server). If you (or anyone) is interested I'll be happy to post a HowTo to the list. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enig2E29394C01059F52F5E1529B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQefMApr7OpndfbmCAQKIwQP7B9ZZ9QttdQxkH9pGwTENV40hDaMmLBKO rRVYo3Fbt9EE7uQvGOB/xZFzLrbeDMNBrSHVviJuJQXq9gcdQMrl0Cg17+r6mKIx 2i4FRdGrsoEOdZ1mv68GXLVdkw+fsGJlABEkFD7vGjjBnvPKYe5rAspVwGpDu8lG KfdpKu9nImg= =NAka -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2E29394C01059F52F5E1529B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 14:10:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6A416A4D8 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from loncoche.terra.com.br (loncoche.terra.com.br [200.154.55.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B3943D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linux@pichler.com.br) Received: from pasto.terra.com.br (pasto.terra.com.br [200.154.55.137]) by loncoche.terra.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21112E780E6 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:10:33 -0200 (BRST) X-Terra-Karma: -2% X-Terra-Hash: 3d0a0794eeece3ccaef111de06873863 Received: from pichler (unknown [200.152.0.163]) (authenticated user ricardopichler@terra.com.br) by pasto.terra.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD967940E1 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:10:32 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <018601c4fa42$cf58def0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> From: "Ricardo Pichler" To: References: <013701c4fa3d$aa85c8e0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:10:32 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.224 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.224 Subject: Re: Syslog server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:36 -0000 Sorry, my box is a FreeBSD 5.2.1. Ricardo Pichler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Pichler" To: Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: Syslog server. > Hi folks, > I've an slackware box that your main function is be a syslog server! Ok, it > work, but I need to separate the log for each box that I've in files with > the same name of box. > Can anybody help me? > > e.g.: an entry in my /var/log/messages: > Jan 13 18:11:49 ns500 ns500-sjc: NetScreen device_id=ns500-sjc > [Root]system-notification-00018: Policy ...... > > Regards, > Ricardo Pichler > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 14:19:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8E716A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:19:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBC543D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AJGurdian@lanoticia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.129] (rrcs-24-123-190-214.se.biz.rr.com [24.123.190.214])j0EEJEkc006334; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:19:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050114004031.19630.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050114004031.19630.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2993CC78-6637-11D9-8011-000A9592DF7A@lanoticia.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alvaro_J._Gurdi=E1n?=" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:18:29 -0500 To: Boris Spirialitious X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:19:24 -0000 OK we get it you don't like freeBSD. Now shut up and quit wasting everyones bandwidth On Jan 13, 2005, at 7:40 PM, Boris Spirialitious wrote: > Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies > that need support for the latest hardware. Thank you for informing > me. > > Boris > > > Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >> I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed >> to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I >> report >> a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they >> make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real >> product >> this linux! > > Glad you're happy. > Sorry you can not seem to comprehend a user volunteer supported system. > > Bye, > > ////jerry > >> >> Boris >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 14:22:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A42016A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:22:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E6C43D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.61.28] (port=2252 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CpSLI-0008vw-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:22:24 +0300 Message-ID: <41E7D5A0.2090004@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:22:24 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions References: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> <41E7CBFB.1090603@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <41E7CBFB.1090603@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: Re: DNS: querying route DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:22:26 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > If your ISPs nameservers are unreliable or overloaded, and not giving > you a good service, then one course of action you might consider is just > configuring the named(8) built into your FreeBSD system to do recursive > DNS lookups for you. (And caching -- but that's a given for any sort of > DNS server). If you (or anyone) is interested I'll be happy to post a > HowTo to the list. > Hello Matthew! I'm sure it won't be difficult for anyone to find a named(8) how-to, but I'd be very glad to see your post, please. I currently use djbdns, but I'm not very happy with it and I'd like to try something else. Thanx in advance! Best wishes, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 14:24:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC27C16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:24:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-140-118.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.140.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868BF43D48 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 92E68156AEA; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:27:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63536156AE5; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:27:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:27:04 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: lord grinny In-Reply-To: <20050114124103.89368.qmail@web61203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20050114124103.89368.qmail@web61203.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:24:37 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, lord grinny wrote: > Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Ramiro Aceves writes: >> >> RA> So, why do we start always the war? The real war > should be against the >> RA> Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. >> >> Professionals and serious amateurs in IT never wage > "wars" at all. >> >> >> > Don't they?? Then what are all the law suits about? It should be noted here, that, by and large for the most part, lawsuits are rarely waged by the folks actually doing the toiling. The people who pour their blood, sweat, tears into the work being fought over, are rarely the ones who initiate serious nuclear level legal action. People with a passion for what they do, are typically consumed by their passion for it. I should know. I love any damned thing with a circuit. An example is the SCO suit. This is a purely greed motivated lawsuit. No serious I.T. Professional, one who actually gives a damn about the profession, is behind it really. Sure, there are lines of debate. But, in my experience, serious IT folks just love playing with their toys. They could care less about waging wars for money in the typical business fashion. This is why software patent debates are all the rage, atm. It inhibits being able to make new toys from old ones. Imagine child A, suing child B, because child B has built something with his lego's that vaguely resembles something that child A built. The vague resemblence in this case, is that blocks were stuck together to make something. That's a very vanilla way to sum it all up. Generic, if you will. But, in the end, I just want to point out, legal wars arent started very often by people who sign up for mailing lists such as these. They are generally started and waged by the people wishing to make money off the work of people who sign up for mailing lists such as these. It's an important distinction, and one that shouldnt be lost in the mix of voices. More to the point, I think, by and large, religious OS wars are what you expect from packet kiddies sitting in #warez on some IRC network. It certianly dosent belong here. And, such folks are not I.T. professionals. This is a list, where, I have seen, you are treated according to how you act. If you act like a child, you will be treated as such. No war, no agression. The person who started this thread, acted like a crying little child, because, he couldnt have what he wanted, when he wanted, and how he wanted it. FreeBSD is not the 4 seasons. It's a hostel. You get what you pay for. And, how you carry yourself, is going to reflect on how you are percieved. If you cannot deal with that, then, you maybe need to find somewhere else to go. FreeBSD won't die because Boris can't get his motherboard to work. FreeBSD will however, suffer if it tolerates people like Boris, who after not getting the answer they wanted, troll and instigate flame wars. It's why its always safest to give a little giggle, and move on. No flame war needed. =) Just my $0.02. =) -- Duo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 14:42:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:42:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE88043D54 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:42:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so792950wri for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:42:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jEDgeMe6Qz66Vd9QAKTIFRRIugLhEMk9q/GJrWvvzc15Uv+U6fngltYADZj/xfSw67p8NeQlgWz6WnGsJIs4aOiDbEz59So1GOtAIuL+DfUMtpRAU2mhf38DlIYnhTAT1LzTmJzs9Ae78ci0jtq3KKWbGyc/nzkB0h3V0CfzMfQ= Received: by 10.54.59.11 with SMTP id h11mr220554wra; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:42:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c30050114064223a4f2cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> Subject: Re: perl -MCPAN -e shell question - need a howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:42:07 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:34:33 -0900, Andy Firman wrote: > > Using FreeBSD 4.10 stable, perl-5.8.5 installed from ports. > > su-2.05b# perl -v > This is perl, v5.8.5 built for i386-freebsd-64int > > When using perl -MCPAN -e shell, I can install the bundle fine, > but the when I try to install XML::DOM, or Text::Aspell, they fail. What are the errors when they fail? Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:02:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A55B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:02:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A4443D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:02:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CpSy3-0002A0-7U; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:02:27 -0900 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:02:27 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114150227.GC8058@akroteq.com> References: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> <35de0c30050114064223a4f2cd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <35de0c30050114064223a4f2cd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i cc: andy@firman.us Subject: Re: perl -MCPAN -e shell question - need a howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:02:34 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:42:06AM -0500, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:34:33 -0900, Andy Firman wrote: > > > > Using FreeBSD 4.10 stable, perl-5.8.5 installed from ports. > > > > su-2.05b# perl -v > > This is perl, v5.8.5 built for i386-freebsd-64int > > > > When using perl -MCPAN -e shell, I can install the bundle fine, > > but the when I try to install XML::DOM, or Text::Aspell, they fail. > > What are the errors when they fail? Trying to install the XML::DOM I get this: cpan> install XML::DOM Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::Parser.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::Comment.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::Element.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::XMLDecl.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::CDATASection.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::Node.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::ElementDecl.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::DOMImplementation.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::EntityReference.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::AttDef.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::Text.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::NodeList.3 Manifying blib/man3/XML::DOM::CharacterData.3 /usr/bin/make -- OK Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.5 "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/build_dom...........ok t/dom_astress.........ok t/dom_attr............ok t/dom_cdata...........ok t/dom_documenttype....ok t/dom_encode..........ok t/dom_example.........ok t/dom_extent..........ok t/dom_jp_astress......ok t/dom_jp_attr.........FAILED tests 3, 9, 12, 14, 19, 22 Failed 6/23 tests, 73.91% okay t/dom_jp_cdata........FAILED test 3 Failed 1/3 tests, 66.67% okay t/dom_jp_example......ok t/dom_jp_minus........FAILED test 2 Failed 1/2 tests, 50.00% okay t/dom_jp_modify.......FAILED test 16 Failed 1/16 tests, 93.75% okay t/dom_jp_print........FAILED tests 2-3 Failed 2/3 tests, 33.33% okay t/dom_minus...........ok t/dom_modify..........ok t/dom_noexpand........ok t/dom_print...........ok t/dom_template........ok t/dom_text............ok Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t/dom_jp_attr.t 23 6 26.09% 3 9 12 14 19 22 t/dom_jp_cdata.t 3 1 33.33% 3 t/dom_jp_minus.t 2 1 50.00% 2 t/dom_jp_modify.t 16 1 6.25% 16 t/dom_jp_print.t 3 2 66.67% 2-3 Failed 5/21 test scripts, 76.19% okay. 11/129 subtests failed, 91.47% okay. *** Error code 2 Stop in /root/.cpan/build/XML-DOM-1.43. /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK Running make install make test had returned bad status, won't install without force ##################################################################### Then with installing Text::Aspell I get this: cpan> install Text::Aspell CPAN: Storable loaded ok Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata Database was generated on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:50:06 GMT Running install for module Text::Aspell Running make for H/HA/HANK/Text-Aspell-0.04.tar.gz CPAN: Digest::MD5 loaded ok CPAN: Compress::Zlib loaded ok Checksum for /root/.cpan/sources/authors/id/H/HA/HANK/Text-Aspell-0.04.tar.gz ok Scanning cache /root/.cpan/build for sizes Text-Aspell-0.04/ Text-Aspell-0.04/t/ Text-Aspell-0.04/t/test.t Text-Aspell-0.04/MANIFEST Text-Aspell-0.04/typemap Text-Aspell-0.04/Aspell.xs Text-Aspell-0.04/META.yml Text-Aspell-0.04/Aspell.pm Text-Aspell-0.04/Changes Text-Aspell-0.04/Makefile.PL Text-Aspell-0.04/README Removing previously used /root/.cpan/build/Text-Aspell-0.04 CPAN.pm: Going to build H/HA/HANK/Text-Aspell-0.04.tar.gz Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for Text::Aspell cp Aspell.pm blib/lib/Text/Aspell.pm /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.5 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/ExtUtils/xsubpp -noprototypes -typemap /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap Aspell.xs > Aspell.xsc && mv Aspell.xsc Aspell.c cc -c -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -DVERSION=\"0.04\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.04\" -DPIC -fPIC "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/mach/CORE" Aspell.c Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_DESTROY': Aspell.c:98: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_create_speller': Aspell.c:125: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_print_config': Aspell.c:158: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_set_option': Aspell.c:194: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_remove_option': Aspell.c:230: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_get_option': Aspell.c:266: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_get_option_as_list': Aspell.c:309: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_errstr': Aspell.c:353: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_errnum': Aspell.c:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_check': Aspell.c:404: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_suggest': Aspell.c:448: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_add_to_personal': Aspell.c:497: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_add_to_session': Aspell.c:536: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_store_replacement': Aspell.c:576: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_save_all_word_lists': Aspell.c:614: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_clear_session': Aspell.c:652: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_list_dictionaries': Aspell.c:696: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_dictionary_info': Aspell.c:753: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Aspell.c: In function `XS_Text__Aspell_fetch_option_keys': Aspell.c:813: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Running Mkbootstrap for Text::Aspell () chmod 644 Aspell.bs rm -f blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.so LD_RUN_PATH="/usr/local/lib" cc -shared -L/usr/local/lib Aspell.o -o blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.so -laspell chmod 755 blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.so cp Aspell.bs blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.bs chmod 644 blib/arch/auto/Text/Aspell/Aspell.bs Manifying blib/man3/Text::Aspell.3 /usr/bin/make -- OK Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.5 "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/test....FAILED tests 16-17, 20 Failed 3/21 tests, 85.71% okay Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t/test.t 21 3 14.29% 16-17 20 Failed 1/1 test scripts, 0.00% okay. 3/21 subtests failed, 85.71% okay. *** Error code 2 Stop in /root/.cpan/build/Text-Aspell-0.04. /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK Running make install make test had returned bad status, won't install without force From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD84916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:06:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail15.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8456A43D58 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:06:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 23432 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 15:06:17 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Jan 2005 15:06:17 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E4A8268; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:06:15 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr References: <20050113041759.0D3DD16A50D@hub.freebsd.org> <1105596905.41e611e9c6392@webmail.uoi.gr> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 14 Jan 2005 10:06:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1105596905.41e611e9c6392@webmail.uoi.gr> Message-ID: <448y6w9hjs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:06:17 -0000 dkouroun@cc.uoi.gr writes: > Is there somebody who has succesfully > installed a SoftModem in FreeBSD(5.3 or 4.10)? Depends on the "modem." See the FAQ. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:08:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4100F16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ml.free.fr (ml1.proxad.net [213.228.0.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A733243D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gomesdv@free.fr) Received: from ml1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ml.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857BEC823B for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:08:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from ml1 by ml1 (LISTAR/0.42); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:08:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:08:34 +0100 (CET) From: Listar To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-listar-antiloop: ml1 Precedence: list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Expiry-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:08:34 +0100 (CET) Subject: Listar: Post sent to moderator. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:08:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2113816A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wenn.com (cube1.wenn.com [195.157.139.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF9943D55 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary@hayers.org) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (fw.wenn.com [195.157.139.125]) by smtp.wenn.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id j0EF8TG01762; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:29 GMT Message-ID: <41E7E067.7090109@hayers.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:23 +0000 From: Gary Hayers User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Firman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> In-Reply-To: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: perl -MCPAN -e shell question - need a howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:08:45 -0000 Andy Firman wrote: > Using FreeBSD 4.10 stable, perl-5.8.5 installed from ports. > > su-2.05b# perl -v > This is perl, v5.8.5 built for i386-freebsd-64int > > When using perl -MCPAN -e shell, I can install the bundle fine, > but the when I try to install XML::DOM, or Text::Aspell, they fail. > > Where can I go for help on getting the bsdpan ports installed? > Or is there a howto on this stuff because I am clueless? > > Thanks, > Andy If you have the Ports tree installed you can install it from the ports tree # cd /usr/ports/textproc/p5-XML-DOM && make install clean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:13:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5691316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD72743D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:13:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nkinkade@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E427C4DCB6; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:13:32 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: l8FY6JKDKpB0IMJcSO2eIg 1105715611 Received: from gentoo-npk.bmp.ub (unknown [206.27.244.136]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8A7570159; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from nkinkade by gentoo-npk.bmp.ub with local (Exim 4.21) id 1CpT8j-0003FS-2X; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:13:29 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:13:29 -0600 From: Nathan Kinkade To: Drumslayer2 Message-ID: <20050114151329.GU3639@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Mail-Followup-To: Drumslayer2 , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050114003814.27395.qmail@web42109.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cwkDooxwsqZYNC1z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050114003814.27395.qmail@web42109.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I speed up a dd copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nathan Kinkade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:13:35 -0000 --cwkDooxwsqZYNC1z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 04:38:14PM -0800, Drumslayer2 wrote: > =20 > Hello > When I am performing a dd between (2) 36 Gig 160 > disks (to duplicate them) it takes about 2.5 hrs. Is > there any way I can speed this up? Is there any better > way I can clone a bootable main disk? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > NH. Using dump(8) and restore(8) works well for me and it eliminates the need that the disks should be the same size. It may seem like a lot of work at first, but once you have done it a few times it can be done very fast. The benefit being that you don't waste massive amounts of time copying null blocks from disk to disk. A few months ago I wrote up a quick howto for the guys where I work. I make no guarantee that the directions are perfect for everyone, but they work fine here. It also assumes you are booting to a good installation of 5.x whose version of dump supports the dumping of "live" filesystems (I don't think the version with 4.x supported this, or at least not 4.8 - someone correct me if I'm wrong). However, you could just as easily boot to one of the FreeBSD install disks and eliminiate the need for a "live" dump in the first place. For reference, you can take a look at the short instructions I wrote up at: http://206.27.244.136:8080/ub/cloning.txt Nathan --cwkDooxwsqZYNC1z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB5+GYO0ZIEthSfkkRAsZSAKCt05gQ4lBObFYyMNdY6jwKc8lP2gCgj5PV 1TdhQD2NDK6vaGFi7VDHCXo= =990S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cwkDooxwsqZYNC1z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:16:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1600A16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:16:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5D643D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:16:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 23F101C000D2 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:16:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 032B81C000A0 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:16:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:16:09 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1205174598.20050114161609@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E7CA46.40609@wanadoo.es> References: <20050113175750.85317.qmail@web61307.mail.yahoo.com> <41E73ACC.1080607@taborandtashell.net> <41E7A940.2090407@wanadoo.es> <20050114115316.GM13663@pleiades.aeternal.net> <41E7CA46.40609@wanadoo.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:16:13 -0000 Ramiro Aceves writes: RA> I do not like to start wars among free OSes, I enjoy fighting the RA> Bill OSes. There are plenty of challenging video games on the market if you like to fight. RA> For me, making the war against Bill OSes means using Free Software RA> OSes (Debian, Gentoo, FreeBSD.......)instead Bill's one. Everybody RA> is free to use the OS he like, so I choose FreeBSD or Linux simply RA> because for me they are better. I also try to evangelize my friends RA> here in my city to use free software, but at the moment, it has been RA> a difficult task. Perhaps if you used something other than "let's make war against Bill OSes" as an argument, you might find the task less difficult. RA> By making the war, as I stated above, I mean using FreeSoftware RA> instead propietary one. I prefer to use whatever is best for the job. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:20:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504C316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:20:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0981743D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:20:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CpTFp-0002DL-F5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:20:49 -0900 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:20:49 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114152049.GA8383@akroteq.com> References: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> <41E7E067.7090109@hayers.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E7E067.7090109@hayers.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: perl -MCPAN -e shell question - need a howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:20:56 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:08:23PM +0000, Gary Hayers wrote: > Andy Firman wrote: > >Using FreeBSD 4.10 stable, perl-5.8.5 installed from ports. > > > >su-2.05b# perl -v > >This is perl, v5.8.5 built for i386-freebsd-64int > > > >When using perl -MCPAN -e shell, I can install the bundle fine, > >but the when I try to install XML::DOM, or Text::Aspell, they fail. > > > >Where can I go for help on getting the bsdpan ports installed? > >Or is there a howto on this stuff because I am clueless? > > > >Thanks, > >Andy > > If you have the Ports tree installed you can install it from the ports tree > > # cd /usr/ports/textproc/p5-XML-DOM && make install clean Understood. But I am having a hard time figuring out how Perl modules "should" get installed on a system. One can use perl -MCPAN -e shell to install modules right? One can install from source in /usr/local/src right? One can install perl p5-Bla-Bla-1.03 from the ports right? Which is the right way? I have learned in the past it is very good practice to stick with the system package management system if at all possible. It will save you in the future big time with dependancey problems. Hence my hesitation with moving forward by throwing anything at the problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:26:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B29516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:26:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B805343D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:26:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j0EFQj7G093975; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:26:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:26:44 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Ricardo Pichler Message-ID: <20050114152644.GA73493@dan.emsphone.com> References: <013701c4fa3d$aa85c8e0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> <018601c4fa42$cf58def0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <018601c4fa42$cf58def0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syslog server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:26:51 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 14), Ricardo Pichler said: > > I've an slackware box that your main function is be a syslog > > server! Ok, it work, but I need to separate the log for each box > > that I've in files with the same name of box. Can anybody help me? > > > > e.g.: an entry in my /var/log/messages: > > Jan 13 18:11:49 ns500 ns500-sjc: NetScreen device_id=ns500-sjc [Root]system-notification-00018: Policy ...... > > Sorry, my box is a FreeBSD 5.2.1. You can use hostname specifications to filter by dns name or IP: +ns500 *.* /var/log/machine/ns500 You will need one of these blocks per machine, though. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:29:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D71816A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:29:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6CA43D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:29:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fehwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so796147wri for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:29:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MnLiX7w/oxVcH6++0r0Ctb/D8Y8ky13LTwI8+0O0/jINLWFV2FxUxYvPIDmjjvwsuCXcNfAN0hX+7vAoAxkYpa9y2osxnDpoXsCvfpRue46mxEfsK/EDCZEj2s8AixDZvb4OYS0xhtZt1ARTNWfY40rUpEpNpcseJrk4cIAGGx8= Received: by 10.54.59.11 with SMTP id h11mr236685wra; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:29:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.59 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:29:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35de0c300501140729694be032@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:29:05 -0500 From: Bryan Fullerton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050114152049.GA8383@akroteq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> <41E7E067.7090109@hayers.org> <20050114152049.GA8383@akroteq.com> Subject: Re: perl -MCPAN -e shell question - need a howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:29:06 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:20:49 -0900, Andy Firman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:08:23PM +0000, Gary Hayers wrote: [snip] > > If you have the Ports tree installed you can install it from the ports tree > > > > # cd /usr/ports/textproc/p5-XML-DOM && make install clean > > Understood. But I am having a hard time figuring out how Perl modules > "should" get installed on a system. The generally preferred way on a FreeBSD system is to use the FreeBSD ports as noted above. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:43:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267C116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:43:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB90F43D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:43:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050114154337.HQDS1106.out003.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:43:37 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6090B11D8D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77741-06 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D72E411D8C; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:28 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050114154328.GB56992@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20050114015139.GA54044@keyslapper.org> <04d501c4f9e0$f3e0e810$32b445cf@EOCPC16> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <04d501c4f9e0$f3e0e810$32b445cf@EOCPC16> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:43:36 -0600 Subject: Re: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:43:38 -0000 On 01/13/05 09:29 PM, Mark Beaver sat at the `puter and typed: > I think it's not so much a setting in X. I think it's more that X simply > doesn't have the software to support those extra buttons (wether it's the > server or the wm of choice) that's got the lack I'm not sure. > > What I do know is that I can set this up fine using 4,5 as my ZAxisMapping, > and leave xmodmap alone. The buttons get recognized, but as I stated, I > don't think any of the current window managers have a "function" to allow > for you to set something up for those input buttons. Good example: > > Set your Zaxis mapping to 6 7 then leave xmodmap at 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and the > extra two buttons *should* control your scroll, and the mouse wheel should > do nothing. I have the ZAxis at 6 7, and xmodmap at 1 2 3 6 7 4 5, and I'm finally getting some useable behavior. The extra side buttons (one on the left, one or the right) are behaving as forward/back controls in the browser, which was a pleasant surprise. The wheel works as a scroller should too. The only problem is that the side buttons and the scroller tend to pop up the Fvwm builtin menu from the root window. That's probably a problem for the Fvwm list, since the buttons are being recognized by X now. Thanks for the suggestions. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Chemistry professors never die, they just fail to react. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:51:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFCA16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:51:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.adur.net (fdc-ms2.adur.net [80.175.56.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047D543D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:51:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Richard@Tribune-IS.com) Received: from richard by adur.net (MDaemon.PRO.v7.2.1.R) with ESMTP id md50000335597.msg for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:50:49 +0000 From: "Richard Burnett-Godfree" To: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:59:20 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Authenticated-Sender: Richard@Tribune-IS.com X-Spam-Processed: mail.adur.net, Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:50:49 +0000 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 172.184.5.68 X-Return-Path: Richard@Tribune-IS.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail.adur.net, Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:50:51 +0000 Subject: FreeBSD 4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Richard@Tribune-IS.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:51:18 -0000 I download 4.9 and successfully installed a working system in August following the process of creating the boot floppies etc. I have now come to make a second server (Backup/fail over) for the first one but cannot find 4.9 anywhere. How can I download 4.9 as I would like to maintain consistency between my 2 servers. I did not realise that old images would disappear. Will the floppy boot find the image I need ?? Please can you send me a url where older images are found. Many thanks Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:54:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D5D16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:54:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D0843D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 518FD2841E for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:55:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 23A99287CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F756230 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0ED8Ku5056733 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:20 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:54:52 -0000 I noticed something extremely odd this morning in my http access log. There's the usual activity, then suddenly this (about a hundred lines are snipped) 62.241.98.151 - - [14/Jan/2005:01:29:44 +0100] "SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x 02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1 \x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\x b1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02 \xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x 02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1 \x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\x b1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02 \xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x 02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1 \x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\x b1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02 \xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x 02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1 \x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\x...and but with this at the very end 414 351 "-" "-" What is this person doing? or attempting to do? I'm guessing nothing good. Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to prevent this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. Regards & TIA, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:55:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1844716A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:55:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ED243D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:55:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CpTnD-0002Qc-W0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:55:19 -0900 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:55:19 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114155519.GA9164@akroteq.com> References: <20050114133433.GA7526@akroteq.com> <41E7E067.7090109@hayers.org> <20050114152049.GA8383@akroteq.com> <35de0c300501140729694be032@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <35de0c300501140729694be032@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: perl -MCPAN -e shell question - need a howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:55:27 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:29:05AM -0500, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:20:49 -0900, Andy Firman wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:08:23PM +0000, Gary Hayers wrote: > [snip] > > > If you have the Ports tree installed you can install it from the ports tree > > > > > > # cd /usr/ports/textproc/p5-XML-DOM && make install clean > > > > Understood. But I am having a hard time figuring out how Perl modules > > "should" get installed on a system. > > The generally preferred way on a FreeBSD system is to use the FreeBSD > ports as noted above. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html Yeah...I understand that, I read the whole manual, and I read the whole book, The Complete FreeBSD. Sorry if I am missing something really basic. I don't see the perl module for Text::Aspell in the ports, by doing all sorts of permutations of this: cd /usr/ports && make search name=p5 |grep Aspell So, once again, sorry if this is really basic stuff, but how to I get Text::Aspell - Perl interface to the Aspell library installed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 16:00:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B2E16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:00:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1518443D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:00:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CpTsE-0002RI-LQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:00:30 -0900 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:00:30 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114160030.GB9164@akroteq.com> References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:00:31 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08:20PM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > What is this person doing? or attempting to do? I'm guessing nothing > good. > Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to prevent > this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. Looks like a WebDAV exploit. You can run conditional logging in your apache server to ignore it. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 16:10:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C44616A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:10:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic-naa.net (nic-naa.net [216.220.241.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6653943D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:10:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0EC9I4l085422; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:09:18 GMT (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200501141209.j0EC9I4l085422@nic-naa.net> To: "Colin J. Raven" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:08:20 +0100." <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:09:18 +0000 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine cc: brunner@nic-naa.net cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:10:44 -0000 Hi Colin, I started seeing these in September. For a _very_ obscure and low hit url. chars dns date/time 27680 d142-59-129-32.abhsia.telus.net 11/Sep/2004:17:13:53 32713 stjhts18c101.nbnet.nb.ca 09/Nov/2004:14:37:26 27670 ip6599141005.link2usa.com 13/Dec/2004:15:28:13 16630 ip6599141112.link2usa.com 20/Dec/2004:02:48:26 27670 ip6599141058.link2usa.com 20/Dec/2004:18:26:47 27670 ip6599140196.link2usa.com 11/Jan/2005:08:38:17 27679 london-hse-ppp3545927.sympatico.ca 12/Jan/2005:09:16:28 Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 16:13:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217FD16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:13:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB56143D5E for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:13:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 41105519EC; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:13:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:13:33 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Richard Burnett-Godfree Message-ID: <20050114161333.GA88312@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:13:34 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:59:20PM -0000, Richard Burnett-Godfree wrote: > I download 4.9 and successfully installed a working system in August > following the process of creating the boot floppies etc. >=20 > I have now come to make a second server (Backup/fail over) for the first = one > but cannot find 4.9 anywhere. http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org Kris --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB5++sWry0BWjoQKURAs19AJwOsT54U7aVsSrMAm11a/E2n3owbQCg4o/M 9zB8KuykJ7QRiX7awEZV/i4= =T/xu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 16:15:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23DE16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:15:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from longbow.arroway.com (peppercornbooks.com [66.252.129.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1625C43D5A for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:15:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: (qmail 30827 invoked by uid 1007); 14 Jan 2005 16:15:35 -0000 Received: from stormspotter@6Texans.net by longbow by uid 1004 with qmail-scanner-1.22-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.64. 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Processed in 0.298229 secs); 14 Jan 2005 16:15:35 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-109-19-173.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net (HELO jacob.6texans.net) (64.109.19.173) by longbow.arroway.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 16:15:35 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:17:47 -0600 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114101747.1304c5e7@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <20050114160030.GB9164@akroteq.com> References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050114160030.GB9164@akroteq.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:15:36 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:00:30 -0900 Andy Firman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08:20PM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > What is this person doing? or attempting to do? I'm guessing nothing > > > > good. > > Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to > > prevent > > this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. > > Looks like a WebDAV exploit. You can run conditional logging in > your apache server to ignore it. If I'm not mistaken, you can also do something fun, like use mod_rewrite to redirect them to fbi.com whenever they try an attack like that. HTH, Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 16:19:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D460116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:19:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-140-118.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.140.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9133643D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id F32CD156C4D; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:22:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64C6156C48; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:22:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:22:06 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: "Colin J. Raven" In-Reply-To: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:19:38 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > I noticed something extremely odd this morning in my http access log. > There's the usual activity, then suddenly this (about a hundred lines > are snipped) Yeah, someone is trying a M$ DAV exploit. I get these alot, along with nimda attempts. > > Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to prevent > this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. Why, yes there is! For the low low price of FREE, here is something you can do for fun and giggles. RedirectMatch permanent (.*)cmd.exe(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)root.exe(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/_vti_bin\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/scripts\/\.\.(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/_mem_bin\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/msadc\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/MSADC\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/c\/winnt\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/d\/winnt\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/x90\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com This will redirect these lovely attacks back to Microsoft, the bearers of these fine gifts in the first place. It's my fun way of giving back to them, for all they have given to me... Wasted diskspace from engorged logfiles, filled with this crap. =) -- Duo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 16:34:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E675116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8224B43D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CpUOq-0001Wa-Gs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:12 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:12 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050114163412.GB26970@lb.tenfour> References: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> <41E7CBFB.1090603@infracaninophile.co.uk> <41E7D5A0.2090004@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E7D5A0.2090004@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: Re: DNS: querying route DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:14 -0000 * Andrew P. [0122 14:22]: > Matthew Seaman wrote: > >If your ISPs nameservers are unreliable or overloaded, and not giving > >you a good service, then one course of action you might consider is just > >configuring the named(8) built into your FreeBSD system to do recursive > >DNS lookups for you. > I'm sure it won't be difficult for anyone to find a named(8) how-to, On a hard drive near you. Or try: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-dns.html -- 'My life, and by extension everyone else's, is meaningless.' -- Bender Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 16:36:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4350A16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:36:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out004.verizon.net (out004pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08D443D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:36:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out004.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050114163638.IKRE8290.out004.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:36:38 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA08115CB for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79669-07 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EF598115C9; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:36:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:36:36 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114163636.GD79199@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050114160030.GB9164@akroteq.com> <20050114101747.1304c5e7@jacob.6texans.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050114101747.1304c5e7@jacob.6texans.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:36:38 -0600 Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:36:39 -0000 On 01/14/05 10:17 AM, Jacob S sat at the `puter and typed: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:00:30 -0900 > Andy Firman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08:20PM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > What is this person doing? or attempting to do? I'm guessing nothing > > > > > > good. > > > Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to > > > prevent > > > this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. > > > > Looks like a WebDAV exploit. You can run conditional logging in > > your apache server to ignore it. > > If I'm not mistaken, you can also do something fun, like use mod_rewrite > to redirect them to fbi.com whenever they try an attack like that. I like that idea. Reminds me of the day we discovered http://www.taliban.org/ There was a Careers page - seriously - apparently trying to recruit suicide bombers. One of my coworkers (thick Russian accent, which makes it a little more amusing) actually called the number to see if it was real. "Thank you for calling the National Offices for the Federal Bureau of Investigation . . ." . . . at which point she panicked and hung up. And of course we all fell about the place laughing ourselves silly. The question is whether the Bureau would log the referrer URL. BTW, I think it would be FBI.gov, yes? L -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Bloom's Seventh Law of Litigation: The judge's jokes are always funny. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 16:52:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A63F16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:52:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from longbow.arroway.com (peppercornbooks.com [66.252.129.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3D5643D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:52:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: (qmail 31758 invoked by uid 1007); 14 Jan 2005 16:52:24 -0000 Received: from stormspotter@6Texans.net by longbow by uid 1004 with qmail-scanner-1.22-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(64.109.19.173):. Processed in 0.281068 secs); 14 Jan 2005 16:52:24 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-109-19-173.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net (HELO jacob.6texans.net) (64.109.19.173) by longbow.arroway.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 16:52:23 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:54:35 -0600 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050114105435.1d4fd06a@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <20050114163636.GD79199@keyslapper.org> References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050114160030.GB9164@akroteq.com> <20050114101747.1304c5e7@jacob.6texans.net> <20050114163636.GD79199@keyslapper.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:52:25 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:36:36 -0500 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/14/05 10:17 AM, Jacob S sat at the `puter and typed: > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:00:30 -0900 > > Andy Firman wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08:20PM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > > What is this person doing? or attempting to do? I'm guessing > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > good. > > > > Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to > > > > prevent > > > > this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. > > > > > > Looks like a WebDAV exploit. You can run conditional logging in > > > your apache server to ignore it. > > > > If I'm not mistaken, you can also do something fun, like use > > mod_rewrite to redirect them to fbi.com whenever they try an attack > > like that. > > I like that idea. Reminds me of the day we discovered > http://www.taliban.org/ There was a Careers page - seriously - > apparently trying to recruit suicide bombers. One of my coworkers > (thick Russian accent, which makes it a little more amusing) actually > called the number to see if it was real. > > "Thank you for calling the National Offices for the Federal Bureau of > Investigation . . ." > > . . . at which point she panicked and hung up. lol > And of course we all fell about the place laughing ourselves silly. > > The question is whether the Bureau would log the referrer URL. > > BTW, I think it would be FBI.gov, yes? You didn't try going to fbi.com, did you? :-) It comes up with a blank page - leaves more to the imagination. Whois seems to indicate it's unrelated to fbi.gov, but then, you never know. Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:00:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA7416A4D0 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:00:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D383A43D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:00:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so514995wri for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:00:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MzZYOwLxvKbhklBbCt84fMvC27bLUWoZFW04Az5QW3xA66BP7jybWssW+xbvwvQ0Zrqc2lzn4VrT25t2CKZkE1G8OH4v89jJnrZw7JDKCasOFqkYIIrYe5K0i/JD2ohFeF3ydpHZXn9U1z5ajHJs0uP0K8REi/zO28rOzXU6rIo= Received: by 10.54.32.35 with SMTP id f35mr94086wrf; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.35.24 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:00:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:00:26 -0400 From: Jeff MacDonald To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff MacDonald List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:00:27 -0000 Hi, I'm looking around at backup solutions. Currently we are using bacula, but according to it's docs it only does a bare-metal restore for linux and solaris. I know that dump is the bees-knees for backing up, so I'm looking for any pre-made scripts for doing scheduled incremental backups with dump.. or articles about dump etc.. I've also been told that dump lacks network support and tho you can use -f and ssh, it's very slow. We could use amanada, but it barfs [or used to] on disks that are over 100 gigs. My issue here is software, not hardware, have a tape drive as well as a few 120gig drives kicking around. Thanks. -- Jeff MacDonald http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id AD65316A4D0; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050114170200.AD65316A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id B975C16A4CF; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050114170200.B975C16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:08:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242D216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:08:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595C143D55 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCE19782C; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:08:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])j0EGdMAr069831; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:39:29 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41E7F5B3.7050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:39:15 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041229) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: infofarmer@mail.ru References: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> <41E7CBFB.1090603@infracaninophile.co.uk> <41E7D5A0.2090004@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <41E7D5A0.2090004@mail.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5653F8E4B6331DC36E6272B3" cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: DNS: querying route DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:08:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5653F8E4B6331DC36E6272B3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000802030408010009020408" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000802030408010009020408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew P. wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> If your ISPs nameservers are unreliable or overloaded, and not giving >> you a good service, then one course of action you might consider is >> just configuring the named(8) built into your FreeBSD system to do >> recursive DNS lookups for you. (And caching -- but that's a given for >> any sort of DNS server). If you (or anyone) is interested I'll be >> happy to post a HowTo to the list. > I'm sure it won't be difficult for anyone to find a named(8) how-to, > but I'd be very glad to see your post, please. I currently use djbdns, > but I'm not very happy with it and I'd like to try something else. Sure. Assuming you're using 5.3-RELEASE, 5.3-STABLE or better, then setting up a recursive-only nameserver is really very simple. The system comes with BIND-9.3.0 as standard, and it has all of the chroot-ing functionality available just by default. All you need do is add the following to /etc/rc.conf: named_enable="YES" There are several other variables you can use to tweak the named startup via /etc/rc.conf, but basically the default values are good for what I want to do here: named_program="/usr/sbin/named" # path to named, if you want a different one. named_flags="-u bind" # Flags for named named_pidfile="/var/run/named/pid" # Must set this in named.conf as well named_chrootdir="/var/named" # Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it) named_chroot_autoupdate="YES" # Automatically install/update chrooted # components of named. See /etc/rc.d/named. named_symlink_enable="YES" # Symlink the chrooted pid file g You need to do three more things to configure named. The first is to generate the keys that allow rndc(8) to communicate with and control the name server: # rndc-confgen > /etc/named/rndc.conf The file consists of two parts: the stuff rndc needs to read, followed by the equivalent stuff, but commented out, to go into named.conf: # Start of rndc.conf key "rndc-key" { algorithm hmac-md5; secret "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX=="; }; options { default-key "rndc-key"; default-server 127.0.0.1; default-port 953; }; # End of rndc.conf # Use with the following in named.conf, adjusting the allow list as needed: # key "rndc-key" { # algorithm hmac-md5; # secret "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX=="; # }; # # controls { # inet 127.0.0.1 port 953 # allow { 127.0.0.1; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; # }; # End of named.conf All of those X's will be replaced by a random password hash. The second thing is to generate the zone files for the localhost and the IPv6 and IPv4 loopback addresses, which you do by running the provided script: # cd /etc/namedb # ./make-localhost This will write two files into /etc/namedb/master: localhost.rev, and localhost-v6.rev which let you resolve the IP numbers 127.0.0.1 and ::1 respectively as mapping to the hostname 'localhost.' Once you've generated those once, you never need to touch them again. Nb. Although we're setting up a recursive nameserver, it will hold these localhost domains authoritatively; a slight exception to the usual rule of not mixing recursive and authoritative functions in the same nameserver instance. Pretty much every nameserver in operation provides the localhost reverse domain. The third and final step is to generate a named.conf -- details of the configuration file syntax are available in file:///usr/share/doc/bind9/arm/Bv9ARM.html but something based on the attached example is what you need. This will provide a recursive nameservice including both IPv4 and IPv6. Use named-confcheck to syntax check the file: % named-checkconf named.conf && echo "Configuration OK" BIND v9 is in general very picky about the syntax of the configuration file, and if it finds an error (usually a missing semi-colon) it will silently (except for messages to the system log) refuse to start up. At last you're ready to fire up named for the first time: # /etc/rc.d/named start This will result in the contents of /etc/namedb being copied into /var/named/etc/namedb and a sym-link being created in /etc. Various other necessary bits will be created under /var/named and as a security measure, the named daemon will be chroot'ed there when it starts up. Any time you work on named's config or zone files, always check the system log to confirm that named is still happy: Jan 14 09:08:40 gravitas named[371]: starting BIND 9.3.0 -u bind -t /var/named Jan 14 09:08:41 gravitas named[371]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Jan 14 09:08:41 gravitas named[371]: command channel listening on ::1#953 Use rndc(8) to control named during normal use -- it's interesting to dump the cache after a day or so's operation to see what weird and wonderful places your system has been looking up. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------000802030408010009020408 Content-Type: text/plain; name="named.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="named.conf" # # Recursive resolver, for general purpose use. # # Networks/IP numbers from where people are allowed to do recursive # lookups via this server. For security reasons, you should limit # this to just your own networks. Edit to suit your local setup. acl allowedusers { 192.168.0.0/24; 123.45.67.89; }; # The 'key' and 'controls' blocks should be copied out of # /etc/namedb/rndc.conf -- I've added an obvious extension so you can # connect via IPv6 as well. key "rndc-key" { algorithm hmac-md5; secret "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX=="; }; controls { inet 127.0.0.1 port 953 allow { 127.0.0.1; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; inet ::1 port 953 allow { ::1; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; }; # This logging statement turns on query logging to syslog /by # default/. Enable /var/log/all.log by following the instructions in # /etc/syslog.conf if you want to see the output. Nb. you will # probably want to turn off query logging if there are a lot of people # using the resolver, as it generates quite a bit of output. You can # toggle query logging at runtime by using rndc(8). logging { category default { default_syslog; default_debug; }; category queries { default_syslog; }; category unmatched { null; }; }; options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; # See http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/09/22/vixie.html root-delegation-only exclude { "de"; "lv"; "us"; "museum"; }; listen-on { any; }; listen-on-v6 { any; }; allow-recursion { allowedusers; localhost; }; allow-transfer { none; }; }; zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "master/localhost.rev"; notify no; allow-update { none; }; }; // RFC 3152 zone "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA" { type master; file "master/localhost-v6.rev"; notify no; allow-update { none; }; }; // RFC 1886 -- deprecated zone "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.INT" { type master; file "master/localhost-v6.rev"; notify no; allow-update { none; }; }; # # That's All Folks! # --------------000802030408010009020408-- --------------enig5653F8E4B6331DC36E6272B3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQef1upr7OpndfbmCAQLvGwQAs5JU422s4oC+raoNyUV5e/SpgbNMExJu w05O/8AWyrEoyazKjCwrZRWnzzddPYwS3xzrabrA9o9fcSBXnoZQTcuayrxWAz3o otv49q9ON8WyJasAxPIe3isGmY0Cc63cBL/X8lU1fqGMMn8mUK/f7xrZSMyvCGo5 pXzs97phRm0= =FAXp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5653F8E4B6331DC36E6272B3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:09:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F33316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:09:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.distributel.net (cns2.distributel.NET [66.38.181.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6EE43D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:09:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@distributel.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.distributel.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j0EH9RV1008166 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:09:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:09:27 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Khavkine X-X-Sender: paul@krusty.mtl.distributel.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114120915.K8142-100000@krusty.mtl.distributel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: NIC failover X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:09:28 -0000 Hi Folks. Is there a way to configure 2 NIC's in a failover fasion connected to 2 different switches with FreeBSD 5.3R ? Thanx Paul ************************************************ Paul Khavkine Networks/Systems Planning and Engineering DISTRIBUTEL Communications. 740 Notre Dame West, Suite 1135 Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3C 3X6 +1-514-877-5505 x 263 http://www.distributel.net ************************************************ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:19:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E30416A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:19:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxout02.versatel.de (mxout02.versatel.de [212.7.146.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B000D43D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:19:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krylon@gmx.net) Received: from mx02.versatel.de (mx02.versatel.de [212.7.146.1]) by mxout02.versatel.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0EHJ5G2002757 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:19:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (i5387626D.versanet.de [83.135.98.109]) by mx02.versatel.de (MOS 3.5.5-GR) with ESMTP id CKP94993 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:19:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E7FF18.1000900@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:19:20 +0100 From: Benjamin Walkenhorst User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041231) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:19:08 -0000 Hello, Andrew L. Gould wrote: >3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather than >5.2.1. > > Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3, which basically worked okay. Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the other hand... Kind regards, Benjamin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:31:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA24116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:31:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3270B43D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 7330387 for multiple; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:48:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:30:27 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20050114113027.0feb65f5@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <41E7B573.6020202@locolomo.org> References: <20050114115346.19233.qmail@gawab.com> <41E7B573.6020202@locolomo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 44, in=90, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: Emon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:31:31 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:05:07 +0100 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Emon wrote: > > But now some of the packages were complaining that an older > > version is installed & I had no idea how to upgrade these > > packages. > > > > So in my blind rage I did "pkg_add -vf" on all packages > > including mc. > > > > Now mc works but I cannot uninstall it or any of the packages. I > > will show you an example. > > > > > > # pkg_add mc-4.6.0_13.tgz > > pkg_add: package 'mc-4.6.0_13' or its older version already > > installed > > # pkg_delete mc-4.6.0_13.tgz > > pkg_delete: no such package 'mc-4.6.0_13.tgz' installed > > # > > > > Now how on earth is that possible?? First it says "older version > > already installed" & than it says "no such package > > 'mc-4.6.0_13.tgz' installed". > > Yeah, maybe it is not completely clear. When you use pkg_add you > give it a tgz file containing the package. When you want to delete > it, you must give the package name, usually the same but without the > tgz extension. > > Some tricks: It is often helpfull to search for what version of a > package is installed when you get that kind of error: > > # pkg_info -x mc > > the -x is regular expresion, so all packages containing mc will > match, in this case mc-4 is probably better. You can also use > pkg_delete with -x option, but be carefull! > > When using packages, make sure you download packages for the same > release, this way you should not get such errors as "older version > installed". A tool you may find handy is portupgrade. It will take care of a nice amount of stuff automatically. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:34:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C184416A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535C443D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 82060285F1; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:34:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id DC6A828617; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:17:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BF76230; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:17:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0EGH7jd058730; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:17:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:17:05 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Jacob S In-Reply-To: <20050114101747.1304c5e7@jacob.6texans.net> Message-ID: <20050114171619.H802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050114160030.GB9164@akroteq.com> <20050114101747.1304c5e7@jacob.6texans.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:24 -0000 On Jan 14 at 10:17, Jacob S launched this into the bitstream: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:00:30 -0900 > Andy Firman wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08:20PM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: >>> What is this person doing? or attempting to do? I'm guessing nothing >>> >>> good. >>> Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to >>> prevent >>> this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. >> >> Looks like a WebDAV exploit. You can run conditional logging in >> your apache server to ignore it. > > If I'm not mistaken, you can also do something fun, like use mod_rewrite > to redirect them to fbi.com whenever they try an attack like that. > Oh now that *would* be a fun thing to do!! What a hilarious idea!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:34:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0491F16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D5E43D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 7FB29285F3; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:34:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 7F26D2864F; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:18:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29EA6230; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:18:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0EGHwIe058734; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:18:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:17:58 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Andy Firman In-Reply-To: <20050114160030.GB9164@akroteq.com> Message-ID: <20050114171450.Q802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050114160030.GB9164@akroteq.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:26 -0000 On Jan 14 at 07:00, Andy Firman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08:20PM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: >> What is this person doing? or attempting to do? I'm guessing nothing >> good. >> Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to prevent >> this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. > > Looks like a WebDAV exploit. You can run conditional logging in > your apache server to ignore it. OK, thank you very much for the information. I'm RTFM'ing now to see what WebDAV is and what conditional logging possibilities there are. Regards, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:34:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D8B16A4DC for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D1F43D48 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 100DD2841F; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:34:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 3041C287B1; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:32:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811DF6230; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:32:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0EGWI7W058874; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:32:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:32:15 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Duo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050114172221.S802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:34:33 -0000 On Jan 14 at 10:22, Duo suggested this hysterically funny remedy: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> I noticed something extremely odd this morning in my http access log. >> There's the usual activity, then suddenly this (about a hundred lines >> are snipped) > > Yeah, someone is trying a M$ DAV exploit. I get these alot, along with nimda > attempts. > >> >> Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to prevent >> this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. > > Why, yes there is! For the low low price of FREE, here is something you can > do for fun and giggles. > > > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)cmd.exe(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)root.exe(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/_vti_bin\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/scripts\/\.\.(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/_mem_bin\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/msadc\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/MSADC\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/c\/winnt\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/d\/winnt\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/x90\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > > > This will redirect these lovely attacks back to Microsoft, the bearers of > these fine gifts in the first place. It's my fun way of giving back to them, > for all they have given to me... Hallelujah! Give that man a cigar! I thought the FBI suggestion was incredibly neat, but this has a certain zen-like perfection to it. Woohoo....what an ace idea. > Wasted diskspace from engorged logfiles, filled with this crap. =) Errrr, yes indeed. My logfile from yesterday was an unbelieveable 2.2 MB. This is a home web server which (as was pointed out overnight) isn't exactly overworked. I was ever so slightly taken aback when I saw the filesize this morning. May your goats and camels enjoy long lives, and bear many offspring. Warm Regards & thanks, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:46:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757FC16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:46:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from extacy.homeip.net (extacy.homeip.net [67.62.48.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE0D43D5C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Niy@extacy.homeip.net) Received: (qmail 94936 invoked by uid 89); 14 Jan 2005 17:46:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Weasel) (Niy@extacy.homeip.net@141.157.27.194) by extacy.homeip.net with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 17:46:24 -0000 From: "Niy" To: "'Paul Khavkine'" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:46:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20050114120915.K8142-100000@krusty.mtl.distributel.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcT6W90AmGssV8bBSGG6KtT1/lPJsQABPYHg Message-Id: <20050114174615.ABE0D43D5C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: NIC failover X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:46:16 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Khavkine Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 12:09 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NIC failover Hi Folks. Is there a way to configure 2 NIC's in a failover fasion connected to 2 different switches with FreeBSD 5.3R ? Thanx Paul ************************************************ Paul Khavkine Networks/Systems Planning and Engineering DISTRIBUTEL Communications. 740 Notre Dame West, Suite 1135 Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3C 3X6 +1-514-877-5505 x 263 http://www.distributel.net ************************************************ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You could set up a script to check the connection of nic0, and if no connection, ifconfig nic1. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:48:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEB616A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:48:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-2.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9BE43D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:48:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [217.159.199.29] (217-159-199-29-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [217.159.199.29]) by MXR-2.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9381496F0; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:48:50 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E805C5.1050407@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:47:49 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek References: <41E7C675.4040703@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <41E7C675.4040703@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing both disks in RAID1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:48:55 -0000 Derek wrote: > Toomas Aas wrote: > >> 1. Attach one of the new drives to free ICH4 IDE port on motherboard, >> partition it and transfer the data using dump/tar. > > > At this stage, I would recommend doing this in single user mode, to keep > filesystem modifications during the procedure down. Yes, that was my plan. Definitely a good idea. > I typically use dump for all partitions when in single user mode like so: > > #adjkerntz -i > #swapon -a > #mount -a > > ... > #mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt/newroot > ... > > /mnt/newroot# dump 0af - / | restore xf - > /mnt/newtmp# dump 0af - /tmp | restore xf - > ...etc I need to use tar for some things, since I'd also like to re-arrange partitioning a bit. I think I have that part figured out, including how to make all the daemons happy with new locations for the data. >> 2. Remove the 80 GB drives, attach 200 GB drives (one with data, one >> blank) to TX2 IDE ports and re-create the mirror using Promise onboard >> BIOS utility. > > > I would go with this if you can afford the time. On servers that we > don't want down for long, I recreate the mirror in the BIOS, let it > mirror to 1%, and then reboot (ignoring the RAID error), and start > rebuilding with atacontrol. It still takes a while, and the server is > slow because of the excessive disk i/o, but it is responding. I'm planning to do this on Saturday when downtime is not that big an issue. >> 3. Reboot, fix the fstab (if necessary) and be done with it. > > > Shouldn't need a reboot/mess with fstab if you are careful. If I'd left the partitioning the same, then yes, but I do want to do some changes there. > From my experience with the Promise cards, this is the way to go. I've > had to upgrade serveral machines, as we've been using the cards in > production. Thanks for confirmation. I sleep better tonight. > The one caveat that I would warn you about is making sure that all your > corresponding partitions line up, to prevent having to mess with fstab > (and have the data in the same relative physical location on the drive) But if it is necessary, it should be possible to bring the machine up to single user mode and modify the fstab there, right? Given, of course, that the root partition is left on ar0s1a. Thanks a lot, -- Toomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:57:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6BF16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3640D43D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.e8.aa6fa22 (18555) for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:56:56 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:56:56 EST To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:01 -0000 In a message dated 1/13/05 11:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr writes: BS> Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies BS> that need support for the latest hardware. >It's not a question of latest, it's a question of which hardware. >FreeBSD, like all operating systems, targets a broad but not universal >user base, and so the mix of hardware that it supports doesn't cover >every conceivable device, although it will naturally overlap for the >most part with any other OS. >For example, given the predominance of FreeBSD as a heavy-duty server ------ You clearly haven't been paying attention.... The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have paid attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the fastest version available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs because it doesnt support the necessary chipsets, AND, that freebsd "people" would rather ridicule people that ask why than fix things. So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the slower, still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:07:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9032B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:07:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A5543D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:07:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (bgp966574bgs.derbrn01.mi.comcast.net[68.41.108.205]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050114180702011000des1e>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:07:02 +0000 From: Len Zettel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:05:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501141305.40257.zettel@acm.org> cc: Freebsd0101@aol.com Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:07:05 -0000 On Friday 14 January 2005 05:56 pm, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/13/05 11:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr writes: > BS> Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies > BS> that need support for the latest hardware. > > >It's not a question of latest, it's a question of which hardware. > >FreeBSD, like all operating systems, targets a broad but not universal > >user base, and so the mix of hardware that it supports doesn't cover > >every conceivable device, although it will naturally overlap for the > >most part with any other OS. > >For example, given the predominance of FreeBSD as a heavy-duty server > > ------ > You clearly haven't been paying attention.... > > The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have paid > attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the fastest version > available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs because it doesnt > support the necessary chipsets, AND, that freebsd "people" would > rather ridicule people that ask why than fix things. > > So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the > fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the > slower, > still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S > that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. Not necessarily. The interesting question hasn't been addressed yet. Is 5.3 on its fastest supported chipset faster or slower than 4.10 on its fastest supported chipset? I would be willing to guess that it is. Then the whole thing gets down to a difference of opinion about development priorities in the face of limited resources. Better to expend resources on making 5.3 faster than 4.10 on all chipsets or retrofit 4.10 to the new ones? -LenZ- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:11:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95F116A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:11:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6945643D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0EIBKd05744; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501141811.j0EIBKd05744@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: bignose@gmail.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Jeff MacDonald" at Jan 14, 2005 01:00:26 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:11:23 -0000 Hi, > Hi, > I'm looking around at backup solutions. Currently we are using bacula, > but according to it's docs it only does a bare-metal restore for linux > and solaris. > > I know that dump is the bees-knees for backing up, so I'm looking for > any pre-made scripts for doing scheduled incremental backups with > dump.. or articles about dump etc.. Yes, dump/restore is what you really want. I will append a script we use for backing up one machine with dump to a DLT drive. Some names are changed to protect the innocent (or guilty?). Those are all full dumps, but it would not be very difficult to have the script check the day of the week, and select the dump level based on that. On our operation which does not see a great amount of change to files in each day, we find it reasonable to do a full (level 0) dump and then just level 1 dumps in between. The level 1 dumps never get very big in our case. You may need something that uses more levels if your files change more, but that is not at all difficult. > I've also been told that dump lacks network support and tho you can > use -f and ssh, it's very slow. Well, I have done backups using dump over the net, but it was clumsy and used rhost. There are other ways too, but all are a bit slow. Since your have tape drives handy, use them. > > We could use amanada, but it barfs [or used to] on disks that are > over 100 gigs. We abandoned amanda as too unworkable. Some of our stuff uses Arkeia, but it is not free. > My issue here is software, not hardware, have a tape drive as well as > a few 120gig drives kicking around. Handy. Tape is not as obsolete as some like to say it is. ////jerry > Thanks. > -- > Jeff MacDonald > http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca A script: NOTE: that the first record put on the tape is just a little text file with a hand made index of the files on the tape and the date of the dump. That way it is easy to just cat the device and see what it is if we need. Note also that I do a final write to that header file and leave it on disk so I can look at it if needed. This is all optional. Note also that the fsf value (0-6) (skip count) before any restores ends up being the file number recorded in that header file. NOTE: it does a rewind and fsf for every file written. That is sort of supersticious behavior left over from some early UNIX (not FreeBSD, but a proprietary BSD) systems that didn't handle tape marks and positioning very well. Doing the extra rewinds and fsf-s made sure it was in the right place each time and I still do it. DLTs and DATs rewind and fsf very fast anyway. Oh, I see someone out there will hate me because it uses csh shell. Well, so what. Who cares. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - #!/bin/csh -x if ((`id -u`) != "0") then echo The XXXX backup must be run by root exit endif echo " Beginning XXXX backup at: `date` " echo " Make sure the tape is in the drive " ### NOTE: Put something in here to chose a dump level based on date ### if you need and then plug that in to the dump command. rm -f /XXXX_tphead touch /XXXX_tphead echo " " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " Index of files for the SERVER XXXX backup tape " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " Backup run began at: `date` " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " Order of files on tape " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " File 0: This index file " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " File 1: Dump of / " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " File 2: Dump of /home " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " File 3: Dump of /site " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " File 4: Dump of /site/junk " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " File 5: Dump of /site/goodies" >> /XXXX_tphead echo " File 6: Dump of /work " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " " >> /XXXX_tphead mt rewind echo Writing index file to tape dd conv=sync of=/dev/nrsa0 if=/XXXX_tphead mt rewind mt fsf 1 echo Dumping root /sbin/dump -0af /dev/nrsa0 / mt rewind mt fsf 2 echo Dumping home /sbin/dump -0af /dev/nrsa0 /home mt rewind mt fsf 3 echo Dumping /site /sbin/dump -0af /dev/nrsa0 /site mt rewind mt fsf 4 echo Dumping /site/junk /sbin/dump -0af /dev/nrsa0 /site/junk mt rewind mt fsf 5 echo Dumping /site/source /sbin/dump -0af /dev/nrsa0 /site/goodies mt rewind mt fsf 6 echo Dumping work /sbin/dump -0af /dev/nrsa0 /work echo Unmounting the tape mt offline echo The XXXX backup is done echo " Backup run ended at: `date` " >> /XXXX_tphead echo " Ending XXXX backup at: `date` " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:21:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A3E16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:21:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC00543D48 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:21:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id t.1dc.346b404d (18555); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:21:41 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <1dc.346b404d.2f1967b4@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:21:40 EST To: zettel@acm.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:21:48 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 1:07:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, zettel@acm.org writes: >> still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S >> that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. > >Not necessarily. The interesting question hasn't been addressed yet. >Is 5.3 on its fastest supported chipset faster or slower than 4.10 on >its fastest supported chipset? ---- Thats a sad commentary, if the "new" version of FreeBSD is 5% faster on a hardware platform that should be 30% faster. Is that the goal you seek? so you have to pay 50% more to get the same performance on 5.3. Thats quite a selling point! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:22:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B473116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:22:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FA843D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:22:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.6a.4cbd2558 (18555); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:22:22 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <6a.4cbd2558.2f1967de@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:22:22 EST To: algould@datawok.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:22:30 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 8:12:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, algould@datawok.com writes: > People on the FreeBSD and Debian GNU/Linux mailing lists are very > kind and help you in any case, if you ask questions politely and you > have searched and read tha manuals first. > So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against > the Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us. I have never heard The "war" is not against anyone, particularly against commercial O/Ss. The truth is that FreeBSD has lost their way. They started out with a focus on Intel platforms and a solid and dedicated development team. Now they have lost some of their top talent in development, and they are trying to support too many platforms with a skeleton force. They simply are not in position to compete in a "war" of any kind. The "war" should be to do what you do better than anyone else, however small the niche. FreeBSD has lost sight of what it wants to be, through a lack of focus and conviction, by spreading themselves too thin over too many platforms. Once FreeBSD was THE choice on an i386 platform. Its now in danger of becoming just another cool O/S, which is a darned shame. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:23:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35DA16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:23:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BD043D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:23:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0EINKq10366; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:23:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:23:20 -0600 From: John To: Benjamin Walkenhorst Message-ID: <20050114122320.A10349@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> <41E7FF18.1000900@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <41E7FF18.1000900@gmx.net>; from krylon@gmx.net on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:19:20PM +0100 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:23:28 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:19:20PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: > Hello, > > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > >3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather than > >5.2.1. > > > > > > Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3, which > basically worked okay. > Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the other hand... Yes, I would say that the source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3-STABLE was fine, it was the xorg/XFree86 and kde issues that made me insane. It's possible that I should have just done a pkg_delete -a and started over with the packages from that point, but I also need to learn to use pkg_upgrade. I would not hesitate to do the source upgrade again for a system which is NOT running X. I have now reinstalled 5.3, just to get around the Xorg->XFree86 issue, and I have kde installed, and I have room to spare. So, I'm much farther than I was when I ran out of room, and I still have room. This is a good thing! > Kind regards, > Benjamin -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:38:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727F516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:38:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23AB43D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:38:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so230743rne for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:38:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id; b=i/6InQDm4pKyI2tiAgpMvxV7DSqMBQyrt6ElOhZVdjsEfuMz8VD1BPdaVFyzC+tsE8Gdfw1i+xYM8iRe2rbboaoKEgKa8ZS+aK7KpdjrKfhATB3MaoYfVFLrKV0lcfGVlSj4/Gy3UPJUSe9Iw4QvMUumyykkqDReL8IctZnBAzM= Received: by 10.38.207.12 with SMTP id e12mr293913rng; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from Firebox ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 79sm8197rnc.2005.01.14.10.38.22; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:38:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:08:09 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C4FA96.4B162F40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 thread-index: AcT6aDE6IovXZbsJS4Cl7wThQijyiQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: <41e811a0.1a4cbffe.4667.01c1@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: M$ mouse working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:38:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C4FA96.4B162F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, I have managed to get hold of a New Microsoft Optical Desktop. I have been trying to use its USB interface with Xorg but without any success (This box is running 5.3-Stable, amd64). During boot I can see that both the mouse and the keyboard are detected once and then detached. Again later it had been detected as "Microsoft Optical Desktop". Fair enough. But unfortunately the mouse does not work in console or in Xorg. Moused runs with an argument of -p /dev/ums0 from rc.conf. The keyboard works fine though, or should I call it apparently fine (??). While booting I also get a couple of "Device Busy" messages from kbdcontrol and moused. Also I have noticed that although my rc.conf says cursor="destructive", the cursor still appears as a blinking block block and not an "under_score". Anyone can help me out in getting there devices work correctly? Regards, S. 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14 Jan 2005 13:43:02 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <193.372b3776.2f196cb6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:02 EST To: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:43:08 -0000 In a message dated 1/13/05 9:05:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu writes: >Someone who begins with their first post on the questions list with >invective and insults instead of asking a question will, not surprisingly, >not receive much positive response. People here are interested in >getting questions answered and problems solved. They are not >interested in responding to juvenile attacks ------ You really don't know what you're talking about Jerry (as usual), so why make comments when you never seem to understand the context? He asked a question and the response was "why dont you donate your hardware to a freebsd developer". What's "juvenile" is that all of you "guys" would rather spend your time insulting people than finding solutions to problems. Thats what kids do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:45:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4085116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:45:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A33B543D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:44:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 73729 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 18:44:56 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 18:44:56 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:44:42 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41E7C675.4040703@rogers.com> <41E805C5.1050407@raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <41E805C5.1050407@raad.tartu.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501141944.56243.4711@chello.at> cc: Toomas Aas Subject: Re: Replacing both disks in RAID1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:45:00 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 January 2005 18:47, Toomas Aas wrote: > Derek wrote: > But if it is necessary, it should be possible to bring the machine up to > single user mode and modify the fstab there, right? Given, of course, > that the root partition is left on ar0s1a. If a valid fstab-entry for the rootfilesystem is missing, the system asks you to enter the filesystem-type and the device where the rootfilesystem resides. You just need to enter a string like "ufs:ar0s1a". If some more fstab-entries fail to mount your filesystems during system startup, you will end up automatically at a shell prompt. From there you can mount your filesystems by using the 'mount' command and edit your fstab. It's maybe good to be familiar with 'man 8 boot', just in case. Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6BMo09WjGjvKU74RAg/2AJ9pm0ud8M1HwGQs+qIhyUlOaup47QCZAWxB E+SjWJj1MwaKIwF81Wb3+Pc= =kWqf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:46:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE9A16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299E243D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j0EIkMCS015343; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j0EIkL11015342; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:46:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9518DD3C-665C-11D9-97FA-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:46:20 -0500 To: Freebsd0101@aol.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:27 -0000 On Jan 14, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have paid > attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the fastest version > available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs because it doesnt > support the necessary chipsets, Let's pretend for a second that what you've claimed here is completely accurate rather than exaggerated for rhetorical purposes. What are you doing to help, TM4321@aol, or whatever your new handle for today is? You've got access to the FreeBSD source code, Intel publishes lots of data about their chipsets, so between the two, you've got everything you need to change FreeBSD to work on the specific motherboards you care so much about. Either you make positive contributions, or you choose not to-- in which case you are wasting your time. > AND, that freebsd "people" would rather ridicule people that ask why > than fix things. The overwhelming majority of people on the FreeBSD lists are polite and helpful, but some people are willing to make exceptions for trolls. If you don't like being ridiculed, try doing something constructive for a change and compare the response you get to your current approach. Even if you fail to learn anything, you will at least benefit by acting like a productive human being for the duration. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:46:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B669116A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E29C43D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050114184640i9200itaene>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:40 +0000 Message-ID: <41E8138E.4050109@nbritton.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:46:38 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd0101@aol.com References: <1dc.346b404d.2f1967b4@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1dc.346b404d.2f1967b4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: zettel@acm.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:41 -0000 Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 1/14/05 1:07:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, zettel@acm.org >writes: > > >>>still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S >>>that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. >>> >>> >>Not necessarily. The interesting question hasn't been addressed yet. >>Is 5.3 on its fastest supported chipset faster or slower than 4.10 on >>its fastest supported chipset? >> >> >---- >Thats a sad commentary, if the "new" version of FreeBSD is 5% faster on >a hardware platform that should be 30% faster. Is that the goal you seek? > >so you have to pay 50% more to get the same performance on 5.3. Thats >quite a selling point! > > Is that you Tm4528@aol.com?, whats TM for btw, Troll Master? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:49:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBCD16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:49:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.esite.sk (195-153-173.dial-s.telecom.sk [195.146.153.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAA6443D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:49:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ico@beke.info) Received: (qmail 72276 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 18:49:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ico.beke.doma) (192.168.0.15) by mail.esite.sk with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 18:49:14 -0000 Received: by ico.beke.doma (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 144EBC3EA; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:49:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:49:15 +0100 From: freebsd To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114184915.GB1802@beke.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-URL: http://www.beke.info/ X-Location-WGS84: E 17.07.43 , N 48.07.10 Subject: bimap instead of public ip and servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:49:19 -0000 Hi all, i have a following problem, probably someone was through this before and can offer advice. Now i'm using DSL with static ip address and on my home FreeBSD server there is group of servers serving my family and friends. Servers are qmail, djbdns and apache. I'm doing dns for my domain, mail server and http is also under my full control. Now i found cheaper option, but... Instead of public static ip i'll have only bimap. Provider don't want to route my public address into his LAN, because he don't want to waste additional public ip's. Now i have a problem. I'm not sure, if it will be possible to run DNS server, mail server and web server in this enviroment. Just now i found, that qmail first checks if his ip is resolved MX record for domain it's serving and refuses to start, if it's not. And i'm bimapped, so it's not ;-). I'll play with this during a weekend, but if someone can help, i'd be gratefull. Maybe this is not exactly FreeBSD problem, hope you don't mind ;-). Thank you in advance -- freebsd(at)beke.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:53:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C6616A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B1A43D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0EIqcr05972; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:52:38 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501141852.j0EIqcr05972@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: Freebsd0101@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:52:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Freebsd0101@aol.com" at Jan 14, 2005 12:56:56 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:00 -0000 > > In a message dated 1/13/05 11:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr writes: > BS> Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies > BS> that need support for the latest hardware. > > >It's not a question of latest, it's a question of which hardware. > >FreeBSD, like all operating systems, targets a broad but not universal > >user base, and so the mix of hardware that it supports doesn't cover > >every conceivable device, although it will naturally overlap for the > >most part with any other OS. > >For example, given the predominance of FreeBSD as a heavy-duty server > > ------ > You clearly haven't been paying attention.... No, you clearly haven't been paying attention! The entire point of this _extended_ "discussion" is that people who begin their posts with ridicule and name calling are not likely to get any positive response - regardless of their high opinions of themselves. Though, some people have repeatedly told you that, for their applications, FreeBSD works best and for some situations it does not, you just want to harp on a narrow item that no-one disputes. Then you pretend that you are revealing something to the world for which the world responds, 'duh'. You completely ignore the point that in the type of environment that FreeBSD is created and used, which is non-paid volunteers making solutions to their own problems and then sharing them free of charge with the general community, work gets done on what those unpaid volunteers are able to work on with what resources they have. In that type of environment it is very reasonable, normal, to say, OK. If you are having a problem with that point, do some work to fix it and submit the improvement to be included in the whole. The volunteers who are working on actually contributing to the project rather than just shooting off their mouths trying to tear it down, do not have the resources to buy every piece of quality or junk that is out there and do development for it. They have to work on their own stuff. Further, if a vendor does not choose to help the project function on their own piece of quality or junk hardware, there is very little the volunteers can do to make them do it. Note, it has nothing to do with how hot the piece of quality or junk is. It has to do with if the unpaid volunteers, in their spare time, can undertake to do some work to support that piece of quality or junk. Sure, some enlightened companies permit some of their staff to work on relevant issues on company time. That doesn't change anything. They are still only doing work on what is useful to the employer and it is supplied to the general community, gratis. They are not working to market a competing OS. So, the response you have repeatedly received, that if you cannot make a useful contribution or add to the useful pool of information for those actually freely making useful contributions, then your behavior is a drag on the community. Quit pretending you have anything useful to say and let the real people get back to work without having to endure your trash. Continually trying to drag the community down without making any useful contribution is the worst of being a troll - or as I previously commented, I hate to denigrate the good name of troll in this case. > > The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have paid > attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the fastest version > available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs because it doesnt > support the necessary chipsets, AND, that freebsd "people" would > rather ridicule people that ask why than fix things. > > So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the > fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the > slower, > still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S > that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. Nobody is establishing anything. FreeBSD is created by volunteers who want to have it to use and they kindly make their efforts available to the world free of charge. Because of this, others, finding needs, add their own contributions because they want that correction made or that ability added. Some of us just sit our here and gratefully eat up the good stuff and hope it keeps on coming - maybe post an occasional suggestion or answer to a question. It is as simple and straight forward as that. People who discover and like it, tell others who are free to like it or not to like it and are invited to contribute if they are able. But, useless diatribes, belittling and name calling is unwelcome. So, just changing your Email address makes no difference. The behavior remains unhelpful, unnecessary and better off undone. Trying to tie it to some supposed technical issue changes nothing. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:53:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6097F16A4D0 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0130643D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0EIrEtB088788; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <41E81512.5080508@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:53:06 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd0101@aol.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:53:56 -0000 That always cheerful and bright troll@aol wrote: [snip] > > So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the > fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the > slower, > still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S > that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. As was pretty clearly explained in previous threads, FreeBSD 5.x is slower than 4.x *at certain tasks under certain conditions* because it is rather considerably more featureful and complex than 4.x (duh?). It has also been said to be rather faster than 4.x at certain other tasks under other conditions, so your mantra of "5.x is slow" is really growing a bit thin. If the rough spots bother you, please contribute patches, contribute money, contribute hardware, or... at the very least, stop changing your address so I can plonk you once and for all without resorting to nuking the entire aol domain. 8-P I've been using FreeBSD since 2.1 (has it really been 8 years?) because the development seems so consistently focused on being the "best" as measured by solidity, consistency, standards conformance and clarity of component boundaries rather than "best" as in slickest-looking or fastest through the gate. If speed comes by cutting corners, bending rules or mixing up things that are rightly separated, I don't want it, thanks anyway. Many, many thanks to all who contribute work, or money, or sage advice, or the very least, a bit of good humor to this project and list. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:01:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A18C16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:01:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F68C43D48 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:01:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0EJ0s306010; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:00:54 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501141900.j0EJ0s306010@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: Freebsd0101@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:00:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <193.372b3776.2f196cb6@aol.com> from "Freebsd0101@aol.com" at Jan 14, 2005 01:43:02 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:01:08 -0000 > In a message dated 1/13/05 9:05:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu writes: > >Someone who begins with their first post on the questions list with > >invective and insults instead of asking a question will, not surprisingly, > >not receive much positive response. People here are interested in > >getting questions answered and problems solved. They are not > >interested in responding to juvenile attacks > ------ > You really don't know what you're talking about Jerry (as usual), so > why make comments when you never seem to understand the context? > He asked a question and the response was "why dont you donate your > hardware to a freebsd developer". He preceded and followed his questin with insults and that was the bulk of his post. The response of suggestion he contribute is the normal and reasonable one for a volunteer supported system such as FreeBSD. Your intent to spread ignorance on the issue is unhelful. Your calling names is wasted on some of us and likely to get negative responses from others. > > What's "juvenile" is that all of you "guys" would rather spend your time > insulting people than finding solutions to problems. Thats what kids do. Spoken like a pro. We are waiting for you to contribute a solution. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:01:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BE716A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD1743D5A for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:01:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05407642pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.43.94]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050114190126016006q1bue>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:01:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 67853 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 19:01:27 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 19:01:27 -0000 Message-ID: <41E8183C.50103@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:06:36 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501131424.j0DEOnvw001009@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <41E697DA.5090905@comcast.net> <200501140241.j0E2fUHZ002973@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200501140241.j0E2fUHZ002973@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4C9EE930E4C880D95FF287D9" Subject: Re: Cut and paste in Emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:01:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4C9EE930E4C880D95FF287D9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I, personally, still don't completely understand the entire unix/X cut buffer system. First, there is more than one cut buffer, but I doubt that that's your problem. Second, there is select-to-copy and select+right click.../ctrl+c/... to copy. These use two different systems, which, like I said, I still don't understand and haven't been able to figure out through research. Well, your problem likely has something to do with the method that (x?)emacs uses to copy. That's just about all that I can tell you. There might be options in Xwin-32 to control how the cut/paste schemes work, but I've never used it, so I couldn't tell you for sure. I hope that this helps. Sorry I don't know more. --------------enig4C9EE930E4C880D95FF287D9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6BhBmcXjc1XBrAQRAj89AJ9b6Au5LZUxqSml8psWJt3bshwCywCeK7M5 J8YoXpuzg8wNf1SIBcoVt/g= =eZCk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4C9EE930E4C880D95FF287D9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:04:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AEA16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1634D43D5C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B72B2513CE; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:04:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:04:06 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Len Zettel Message-ID: <20050114190406.GA22978@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200501141305.40257.zettel@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501141305.40257.zettel@acm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:08 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:05:40PM +0000, Len Zettel wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2005 05:56 pm, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/13/05 11:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr writes: > > BS> Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies > > BS> that need support for the latest hardware. > > > > >It's not a question of latest, it's a question of which hardware. > > >FreeBSD, like all operating systems, targets a broad but not universal > > >user base, and so the mix of hardware that it supports doesn't cover > > >every conceivable device, although it will naturally overlap for the > > >most part with any other OS. > > >For example, given the predominance of FreeBSD as a heavy-duty server > > > > ------ > > You clearly haven't been paying attention.... > > > > The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have paid > > attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the fastest version > > available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs because it doesnt > > support the necessary chipsets, AND, that freebsd "people" would > > rather ridicule people that ask why than fix things. > > > > So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the > > fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the > > slower, > > still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S > > that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. >=20 > Not necessarily. The interesting question hasn't been addressed yet. > Is 5.3 on its fastest supported chipset faster or slower than 4.10 on > its fastest supported chipset? I would be willing to guess that it is. > Then the whole thing gets down to a difference of opinion about > development priorities in the face of limited resources. > Better to expend resources on making 5.3 faster than 4.10 on all > chipsets or retrofit 4.10 to the new ones? Mr AOL Troll also likes to ignore emails refuting his chosen world-view (e.g. earlier emails on the topic he's trolling about above), so he should just be ignored since meaningful discourse isn't possible. It's too bad he's now choosing to be even more antisocial by changing his email address to avoid the procmail filters of those for whom his rantings have lost their amusement, although this just makes his behaviour more obvious to other bystanders. Kris --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6BemWry0BWjoQKURAvB8AKCyWbtI3E2km/jHoBZx2kIaEIILbQCg5cJH YYgXAF8WvzowAEV+GPyMgP8= =M/yY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:04:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4462C16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-140-118.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.140.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B213E43D45 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 56D38157080; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:06:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4727015707F; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:06:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:06:47 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: Freebsd0101@aol.com In-Reply-To: <193.372b3776.2f196cb6@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <193.372b3776.2f196cb6@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:19 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > You really don't know what you're talking about Jerry (as usual), so > why make comments when you never seem to understand the context? > He asked a question and the response was "why dont you donate your > hardware to a freebsd developer". > > What's "juvenile" is that all of you "guys" would rather spend your time > insulting people than finding solutions to problems. Thats what kids do. Hold it right there bucko. What comes to mind here is, when people point one finger at someone else, there are three more pointing back at you. The only one who dosent know what they are talking about here, would be you. And, at this point, I would surmise, it's you who's trolling for a flame war, more than boris. I cite: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg88107.html In which: A) The developers, people who DONATE their TIME to develop something available for FREE were called "stupid", for what? The crime of working on 5.3, the future, as opposed to DROPPING EVERYTHING IN THE WHOLE damned world to fix ONE PERSON's minor issue. B) Ted Mittelstaedt's comment of "Donate your hardware" is simple to understand, if you have neurons even capable of firing. As a matter of fact, you convienently leave out what others have mentioned, if it dosent work, you can loan or donate hardware. And, what's more, everyone else understands that, except for two people: You and Boris. The only people doing any of the insulting, are: You and Boris. The only person calling anyone names, a truly childish behavior in its own right are...three guesses... YEP. You and Boris. Back when I discovered Free Operating systems, I came to the understanding, that, if something dosent work, you have some options: 1) Fix it yourself. 2) Get someone as much tangible data as possible so the problem can be fixed. 3) Loan or donate some of the offending hardware to a developer so it can be fixed. Numerous issues in the early days of LinuxPPC were fixed this way. Especially in the area of mac's transitioning from oldworld to newworld ROM booting structures. So, please, spare us your sermon on the mount, about how FreeBSD has lost its way, about how it sucks, its not number one in your eyes, we know, we heard you the first 32,734,129,121,996 times. It's a free OS, with no warranty. Boris's frustration would have been better channeled into the following phrase: "What can I do to get you the information you need to fix, or help me fix the issue" But, instead, he chose to call people stupid, insult them for the work they are trying to accomplish, and insulting them for not dropping their lives, and other things to fix his problem. Boo hoo. Ill dig you a trench, and you can then cry me a river. All support systems have cracks. And people sometimes slip through. Thats a fact of life. One Boris, and it seems, you need to come to grips with. No machine, be it one that supports users, or one that runs applications are perfect. They break, they can error. In such cases, you have a number of options: 1) Do what you can to fix it. 2) Go elsewhere. barring those two options, would you please, please please stop being a sock puppet for Boris? It's old, annoying, and the oldest doom and gloom cry in the world. -- Duo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:10:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E95F16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CED43D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0EJANK06097; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501141910.j0EJANK06097@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: kris@obsecurity.org (Kris Kennaway) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050114190406.GA22978@xor.obsecurity.org> from "Kris Kennaway" at Jan 14, 2005 11:04:06 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Len Zettel cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:27 -0000 > > ... Much misc drivel excised. > > > > rather ridicule people that ask why than fix things. > > > > > > So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the > > > fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the > > > slower, > > > still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S > > > that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. > >=20 > > Not necessarily. The interesting question hasn't been addressed yet. > > Is 5.3 on its fastest supported chipset faster or slower than 4.10 on > > its fastest supported chipset? I would be willing to guess that it is. > > Then the whole thing gets down to a difference of opinion about > > development priorities in the face of limited resources. > > Better to expend resources on making 5.3 faster than 4.10 on all > > chipsets or retrofit 4.10 to the new ones? > > Mr AOL Troll also likes to ignore emails refuting his chosen > world-view (e.g. earlier emails on the topic he's trolling about > above), so he should just be ignored since meaningful discourse isn't > possible. It's too bad he's now choosing to be even more antisocial > by changing his email address to avoid the procmail filters of those > for whom his rantings have lost their amusement, although this just > makes his behaviour more obvious to other bystanders. Yah, sorry I responded, but sometimes it gets to be too much. ////jerry > > Kris > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:10:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3A816A4DF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DC243D53 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out014.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050114191036.VVHH28388.out014.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:36 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768ED11936 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24337-06 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4AB0D115CB; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:10:35 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114191035.GA24235@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41e811a0.1a4cbffe.4667.01c1@smtp.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41e811a0.1a4cbffe.4667.01c1@smtp.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:36 -0600 Subject: Re: M$ mouse working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:10:37 -0000 On 01/15/05 12:08 AM, Subhro sat at the `puter and typed: > Hello folks, > > I have managed to get hold of a New Microsoft Optical Desktop. I have been > trying to use its USB interface with Xorg but without any success (This box > is running 5.3-Stable, amd64). During boot I can see that both the mouse and > the keyboard are detected once and then detached. Again later it had been > detected as "Microsoft Optical Desktop". Fair enough. But unfortunately the > mouse does not work in console or in Xorg. Moused runs with an argument of > -p /dev/ums0 from rc.conf. The keyboard works fine though, or should I call > it apparently fine (??). While booting I also get a couple of "Device Busy" > messages from kbdcontrol and moused. > > Also I have noticed that although my rc.conf says cursor="destructive", the > cursor still appears as a blinking block block and not an "under_score". > > Anyone can help me out in getting there devices work correctly? You probably just need to tweak your Mouse section in xorg.conf. I haven't figured out all the details yet myself, I think but moused will virtualize the mouse port to /dev/sysmouse. If /dev/sysmouse exists, you want to set your device to /dev/sysmouse. This will only work if moused is actually running. Otherwise, you want to set that device to /dev/ums0. I'm finding this to be a real pain in the neck when you want to plug a trackball AND a mouse in. When you plug it in, the ums driver apparently automagically runs moused on both ports (usm0 and ums1) regardless of the fact I have moused_enable set to "NO". It appears to cause some kind of conflict, because the default is to virtualize it to sysmouse. I got it working by stopping both moused instances and restarting X. Now to figure out how to keep it from starting moused in the first place - or to redirect it to a different device . . . Good luck. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Krogt, n. (chemical symbol: Kr): The metallic silver coating found on fast-food game cards. -- Rich Hall, "Sniglets" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:31:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACD016A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:31:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from whoweb.com (whoweb.com [66.180.172.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8883643D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:31:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonw@whoweb.com) Received: from whoweb.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whoweb.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0EJZrHM040436 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:35:53 -0600 (CST) Received: (from root@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0EJZrhH040435 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:35:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:35:53 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Wallace Message-Id: <200501141935.j0EJZrhH040435@whoweb.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: growisofs problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:31:08 -0000 Hello, I've got a curious problem using growisofs on FBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0. I'm using the following hardware (from dmesg): acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave PIO4 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device Using the cd0 device (through atapicam) I can write to /dev/cd0 without any errors, but I cannot mount the device to read it. There is nothing wrong with the DVD media (DVD+RW) because I can put it in another 5.2.1 system with a SONY DRU model DVD drive, mount it, and read it. So the bits are being written correctly by growisofs. Here is the output when I try to mount the media in the HP 530r DVD drive: # mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument # mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument Both devices are valid. I can mount and read a commercial CDROM. I have not tried a commercial DVD yet. Any thoughts? Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:31:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA2E16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:31:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8AF43D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:31:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CpXAZ-00079w-7z; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:31:39 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:32:03 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <41E7FF18.1000900@gmx.net> <20050114122320.A10349@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050114122320.A10349@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501141332.03416.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc96ea2e49594a766364a3c00aa7148bc5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: John cc: Benjamin Walkenhorst Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:31:40 -0000 On Friday 14 January 2005 12:23 pm, John wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:19:20PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > >3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather > > > than 5.2.1. > > > > Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3, which > > basically worked okay. > > Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the other > > hand... > > Yes, I would say that the source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3-STABLE was > fine, it was the xorg/XFree86 and kde issues that made me insane. > It's possible that I should have just done a pkg_delete -a and > started over with the packages from that point, but I also need to > learn to use pkg_upgrade. I would not hesitate to do the source > upgrade again for a system which is NOT running X. > > I have now reinstalled 5.3, just to get around the Xorg->XFree86 > issue, and I have kde installed, and I have room to spare. So, > I'm much farther than I was when I ran out of room, and I still > have room. This is a good thing! Yes it is! (...and speaking as someone who is typing with 2 fractured wrists, all good news is welcome!) > > > Kind regards, > > Benjamin I hope you have lots of fun and joy with your system before the next challenge (which we will gladly participate in) ! Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:32:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326BD16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:32:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CED43D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:32:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 22990 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 19:32:44 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Jan 2005 19:32:44 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id ADDB568; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:32:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Static" References: <003101c4f90d$8471d440$9601a8c0@staticbasement> <444qhlgdsd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <004901c4f9fc$804aff50$9601a8c0@staticbasement> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 14 Jan 2005 14:32:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <004901c4f9fc$804aff50$9601a8c0@staticbasement> Message-ID: <44r7knq010.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 74 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: login.conf problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:32:45 -0000 Don't top-post, please. "Static" writes: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lowell Gilbert" > To: "Static" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: login.conf problems > > > > "Static" writes: > > > >> Im trying to add a class that will limit processes and session > >> limits, I added this > >> ircd:\ > >> :tc=default:\ > >> :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ > >> :welcome=/etc/motd:\ > >> :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K:\ > >> :path=~/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin:\ > >> :manpath=/usr/share/man /usr/local/man:\ > >> :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\ > >> :ftp-chroot:\ > >> :cputime=1h30m:\ > >> :datasize=100M:\ > >> :vmemoryuse=100M:\ > >> :stacksize=2M:\ > >> :memorylocked=4M:\ > >> :memoryuse=8M:\ > >> :filesize=100M:\ > >> :coredumpsize=8M:\ > >> :openfiles=24:\ > >> :maxproc=32:\ > >> :priority=0:\ > >> :requirehome:\ > >> :idletime=30m:\ > >> :sessionlimit=2:\ > >> :umask=002:\ > >> :ignoretime@:\ > >> Then I proceed to run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf" then I make a user > >> with the login class of ircd, but the session limits dont seem to > >> work, was curious if anyone out there knew how to fix that > > > > Which ones don't work? [Not all of them are implemented.] > > > > How did you add the new user? Did the password database get rebuilt? > > > > Do the limits appear to be changed in the output of limits(1)? > > > > Resource limits (current): > cputime infinity secs > filesize infinity kb > datasize 524288 kb > stacksize 65536 kb > coredumpsize infinity kb > memoryuse infinity kb > memorylocked infinity kb > maxprocesses 867 > openfiles 1735 > sbsize infinity bytes > vmemoryuse infinity kb > - > I used adduser and just placed ircd as the user class And no diagnostic messages were printed when you ran cap_mkdb? Use vipw(8) to check the login database; make sure "ircd" is the fifth field in the user's entry. And when the user logs in, make sure there are no errors in the logs or terminal about trouble with the capability entry. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5308216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mss1.myactv.net (mss1.myactv.net [24.89.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A122F43D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:39:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@xecu.net) Received: (qmail 5353 invoked by uid 1531); 14 Jan 2005 19:39:40 -0000 Received: from chris@xecu.net by mss1.myactv.net by uid 1006 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (clamdscan: 0.70. Clear:RC:1(24.153.115.195):. Processed in 0.025837 secs); 14 Jan 2005 19:39:40 -0000 Received: from dyn-153-115-195.myactv.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (24.153.115.195) by mss1.myactv.net with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 19:39:39 -0000 Message-ID: <41E81FFB.4020808@xecu.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:39:39 -0500 From: Christopher McGee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dynamic IP and pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:39:41 -0000 I have a cable modem that provides a dynamic IP address to the outside interface of my firewall(5.3 with PF doing NAT). If my IP address changes I have to run a script to update my dynamic dns and reload my firewall rules based on the new IP address. Is there a recommended way of doing this other than having cron check to see if the IP addresss has changed? Thanks, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:43:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D8A16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:43:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from atwns1.omniresources.com (atwns1.omniresource.com [69.48.112.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F34543D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:43:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpoland@omniresources.com) Received: from antioch.omniresources.com (antioch.atwdev.omniresources.com [192.168.254.77])j0EJh4GC039262; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@atwdev.omniresources.com) Received: from antioch.omniresources.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j0EJh4Gu061235; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@antioch.omniresources.com) Received: (from dpoland@localhost)j0EJh3aC061234; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:03 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> Message-ID: <20050114194303.GB61113@omniresources.com> References: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> <200501130951.17307.4711@chello.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501130951.17307.4711@chello.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 (SOLVED) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:43:08 -0000 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:51:03AM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote: > Hash: SHA1 > On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:54, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > I'm having a problem with gmirror. It would seem that I cannot add my > > first disk to the mirror after booting off the second drive. My current > > status is a degraded mirror and I cannot see any of the partitions on > > disk one. > > > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 > > You probably destroyed your slice table here. The dd command only makes sense > if you insert whole disks (ie. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6) as providers. Otherwise > you need to create (or already have) a valid slice table on the disk, which > enables gmirror to locate and insert your slice. > One of my problems was incorrect partition sizes when I created the bsdlabel for /dev/mirror/gm0s1. I didn't really know what I was doing nor did I understand the consequences of my actions ;) > (!) Before you start to correct your gmirror setup, please read all of my > comments, because to me it looks like you run a mirror of ad6 and not ad6s1. > I'm not sure why gmirror label shows that but it's definately misleading. Since this is a brand-new box with nothing but a minimal install, I decided to re-install 5.3-R. This time I got the install right and gmirror reads: Geom name: gm0s1 State: COMPLETE Components: 2 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE SyncID: 1 ID: 3524221455 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1 Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ad4 Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e2 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY SyncID: 1 ID: 2031344187 2. Name: ad6 Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e2 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY SyncID: 1 ID: 3116345061 Geom name: gm0s1.sync I'm going to include the steps I took, with one deviation from the published doc I referenced, and ask a couple more questions. 1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 bs=512 count=79 2 fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad6 3 4 gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1 5 gmirror load 6 7 bsdlabel -w -B /dev/mirror/gm0s1 8 bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1 9 10 newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1a 11 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt 12 dump -L -0 -f- / | ( cd /mnt ; restore -r -v -f- ) 13 newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1d 14 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /mnt/var 15 dump -L -0 -f- /var | ( cd /mnt/var ; restore -r -v -f- ) 16 newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1e 17 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /mnt/tmp 18 dump -L -0 -f- /tmp | ( cd /mnt/tmp ; restore -r -v -f- ) 19 newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 20 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /mnt/usr 21 dump -L -0 -f- /usr | ( cd /mnt/usr ; restore -r -v -f- ) 22 23 cp -p /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.orig 24 sed -e 's/dev\/ad4s1/dev\/mirror\/gm0s1/g' < /mnt/etc/fstab.orig > /mnt/etc/fstab 25 echo 'swapoff="YES"' >> /mnt/etc/rc.conf 26 echo 'geom_mirror_load="YES"' >> /mnt/boot/loader.conf 27 echo "1:ad(6,a)/boot/loader" > /boot.config 28 29 shutdown -r now 30 31 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 32 fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 33 gmirror configure -a gm0s1 34 gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 35 sh -c 'while [ ".`gmirror list | grep SYNCHRONIZING`" != . ]; do sleep 1; done' 36 37 shutdown -r now On line 32, I deviated from the instructions on: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ The published command was: size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -B -f- -i /dev/ad4 That command returned: "improperly placed quotes ()". I set the value of $size manually but it was some small number like 50000. I wrote it to ad4 but the command on line 33 puked. So I simply issued the command shown on line 32. Question: On line 27 we issue the command to... # instruct boot stage 2 loader on first disk to boot # with the boot stage 3 loader from the second disk # (mainly because BIOS might not allow easy booting from second ATA disk # or at least requires manual intervention on the console) So how do I get rid of that boot.config file? Should I get rid of it? Question: On line 25 we set swapoff=YES. Is this necessary if I'm going to run 5-STABLE? What are the implications of having swap on a mirror like this? Thanks for your help! -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:54:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655CE16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:54:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp30.hccnet.nl (smtp30.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5D743D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:54:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@hustinx.org) Received: from freebsd.pieter.org by smtp30.hccnet.nl id j0EJseG7021171 (8.13.2/2.05); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:54:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:54:56 +0100 From: Pieter Hustinx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050114205456.36ad4fde.freebsd-questions@hustinx.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0rc (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Logitech access keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:54:43 -0000 Hi, I have a logitech access keyboard [1]. If I want to use the function keys, I have to press the 'F lock' key first (by default 'F lock' is off). I want to use the function keys without using 'F lock' I want to adjust my keymap, I need to know the scancode of that keys. How can I get the scancode of that keys. I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "Keyboard" Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "logiaccess" Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl" EndSection [1] http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006HMPM.01.PT01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg -- Regards, Pieter http://pieter.hustinx.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:55:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF3316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:55:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3EB43D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:55:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.61.28] (port=3346 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CpXXr-000JJG-00; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:55:44 +0300 Message-ID: <41E823BF.2050305@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:55:43 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> <41E7CBFB.1090603@infracaninophile.co.uk> <41E7D5A0.2090004@mail.ru> <41E7F5B3.7050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <41E7F5B3.7050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: DNS: querying route DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:55:45 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Sure. Assuming you're using 5.3-RELEASE, 5.3-STABLE or better, then > setting up a recursive-only nameserver is really very simple. > > The system comes with BIND-9.3.0 as standard, and it has all of the > chroot-ing functionality available just by default. All you need do is > add the following to /etc/rc.conf: > > named_enable="YES" > > There are several other variables you can use to tweak the named startup > via /etc/rc.conf, but basically the default values are good for what I > want to do here: > > named_program="/usr/sbin/named" # path to named, if you want a different > one. > named_flags="-u bind" # Flags for named > named_pidfile="/var/run/named/pid" # Must set this in named.conf as well > named_chrootdir="/var/named" # Chroot directory (or "" not to > auto-chroot it) > named_chroot_autoupdate="YES" # Automatically install/update chrooted > # components of named. See /etc/rc.d/named. > named_symlink_enable="YES" # Symlink the chrooted pid file > g > > You need to do three more things to configure named. The first is to > generate the keys that allow rndc(8) to communicate with and control the > name server: > > # rndc-confgen > /etc/named/rndc.conf > > The file consists of two parts: the stuff rndc needs to read, followed > by the equivalent stuff, but commented out, to go into named.conf: > > # Start of rndc.conf > key "rndc-key" { > algorithm hmac-md5; > secret "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX=="; > }; > > options { > default-key "rndc-key"; > default-server 127.0.0.1; > default-port 953; > }; > # End of rndc.conf > > # Use with the following in named.conf, adjusting the allow list as needed: > # key "rndc-key" { > # algorithm hmac-md5; > # secret "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX=="; > # }; > # > # controls { > # inet 127.0.0.1 port 953 > # allow { 127.0.0.1; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; > # }; > # End of named.conf > > All of those X's will be replaced by a random password hash. > > The second thing is to generate the zone files for the localhost and the > IPv6 and IPv4 loopback addresses, which you do by running the provided > script: > > # cd /etc/namedb > # ./make-localhost > > This will write two files into /etc/namedb/master: localhost.rev, and > localhost-v6.rev which let you resolve the IP numbers 127.0.0.1 and ::1 > respectively as mapping to the hostname 'localhost.' Once you've > generated those once, you never need to touch them again. Nb. Although > we're setting up a recursive nameserver, it will hold these localhost > domains authoritatively; a slight exception to the usual rule of not > mixing recursive and authoritative functions in the same nameserver > instance. Pretty much every nameserver in operation provides the > localhost reverse domain. > > The third and final step is to generate a named.conf -- details of the > configuration file syntax are available in > > file:///usr/share/doc/bind9/arm/Bv9ARM.html > > but something based on the attached example is what you need. This will > provide a recursive nameservice including both IPv4 and IPv6. Use > named-confcheck to syntax check the file: > > % named-checkconf named.conf && echo "Configuration OK" > > BIND v9 is in general very picky about the syntax of the configuration > file, and if it finds an error (usually a missing semi-colon) it will > silently (except for messages to the system log) refuse to start up. > > At last you're ready to fire up named for the first time: > > # /etc/rc.d/named start > > This will result in the contents of /etc/namedb being copied into > /var/named/etc/namedb and a sym-link being created in /etc. Various > other necessary bits will be created under /var/named and as a security > measure, the named daemon will be chroot'ed there when it starts up. > > Any time you work on named's config or zone files, always check the > system log to confirm that named is still happy: > > Jan 14 09:08:40 gravitas named[371]: starting BIND 9.3.0 -u bind -t > /var/named > Jan 14 09:08:41 gravitas named[371]: command channel listening on > 127.0.0.1#953 > Jan 14 09:08:41 gravitas named[371]: command channel listening on ::1#953 > > Use rndc(8) to control named during normal use -- it's interesting to > dump the cache after a day or so's operation to see what weird and > wonderful places your system has been looking up. > Thanks much! I actually thought that BIND configuration was a lot more difficult, but it appears to be a matter of 20 minutes. I also need to serve some local zones, but I'll figure that out on my own. Will try to switch to BIND this weekend. Best wishes, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:09:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D88216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:09:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zeff.docisland.org (zeff.docisland.org [213.41.173.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452E743D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from saad@docisland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.sk.org [127.0.0.1]) by zeff.docisland.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC65A375 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:09:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.sk.org (bsdguy.net1.nerim.net [62.212.99.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.sk.org", Issuer "ca.sk.org" (verified OK)) by zeff.docisland.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19CDA360 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:08:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.4.2] (kaboo.dmz.sk.org [10.1.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.sk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A4350E5 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:08:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E826D8.9000003@docisland.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:08:56 +0100 From: Saad Kadhi Organization: DocIsland User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E81FFB.4020808@xecu.net> In-Reply-To: <41E81FFB.4020808@xecu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at docisland.org Subject: Re: Dynamic IP and pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:09:06 -0000 On 14/01/2005 20:39 Christopher McGee wrote: > I have a cable modem that provides a dynamic IP address to the outside > interface of my firewall(5.3 with PF doing NAT). If my IP address > changes I have to run a script to update my dynamic dns and reload my > firewall rules based on the new IP address. Is there a recommended way > of doing this other than having cron check to see if the IP addresss has > changed? the PF version integrated into 5.3 supports dynamic IPs by putting parentheses around the interface name as explained in http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/filter.html : The name of a network interface in parentheses ( ). This tells PF to update the rule if the IP address(es) on the named interface change. This is useful on an interface that gets its IP address via DHCP or dial-up as the ruleset doesn't have to be reloaded each time the address changes. for example : my_if="hme0" [...] nat on $my_if proto tcp from any to any -> ($my_if) [...] pass in quick on $my_if proto tcp from any to ($my_if) port domain flags S/SAFR keep state -- Saad Kadhi "He who relieves the poor makes Ahura king" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:12:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D64516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:12:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1D743D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:12:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0EKC4X11060; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:12:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:12:04 -0600 From: John To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050114141204.A10926@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <41E7FF18.1000900@gmx.net> <20050114122320.A10349@starfire.mn.org> <200501141332.03416.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501141332.03416.algould@datawok.com>; from algould@datawok.com on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:32:03PM -0600 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:12:07 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:32:03PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2005 12:23 pm, John wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:19:20PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > > >3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather > > > > than 5.2.1. > > > > > > Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3, which > > > basically worked okay. > > > Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the other > > > hand... > > > > Yes, I would say that the source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3-STABLE was > > fine, it was the xorg/XFree86 and kde issues that made me insane. > > It's possible that I should have just done a pkg_delete -a and > > started over with the packages from that point, but I also need to > > learn to use pkg_upgrade. I would not hesitate to do the source > > upgrade again for a system which is NOT running X. > > > > I have now reinstalled 5.3, just to get around the Xorg->XFree86 > > issue, and I have kde installed, and I have room to spare. So, > > I'm much farther than I was when I ran out of room, and I still > > have room. This is a good thing! > > Yes it is! (...and speaking as someone who is typing with 2 fractured > wrists, all good news is welcome!) Oh, no! I'd ask what happened, but I'll wait until you're healed up... > I hope you have lots of fun and joy with your system before the next > challenge (which we will gladly participate in) ! OK, well, it seems I spoke just a little bit too soon. Or, maybe I'm OK, but just worried. I downloaded and burned an ISO 5.3 CD. I did a minimal install, NFS mounted all the 5-stable packages I kept from the last time around (I'm not a COMPLETE idiot!) and simply did a "pkg_add kde-lite*". That got me a long, long ways. I also needed to do a "pkg_add xorg-server*" but I think nearly everything else got loaded up. I was in great shape in terms of disk footprint and everything else I can tell from here. Now, at this point, I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, but I've installed packages from FreeBSD 5-STABLE, but if my understanding is correct, that should be OK. This is the point at which things got interesting. I did the pkg_add for OOo - and found that I was missing four dependent packages. As luck would have it, all four of them have been updated since I started this process, so I downloaded and installed the newer revv'ed ones, but I got an error message that something (I wished I'd trapped the output) wanted libm.so.2. When I look around, I find that I have libm.so.3. The four packages were atk, pango, shared-mime-info, and gtk-2. I think one of the post-install scripts complained that it couldn't run something, Am I preparing trouble, or am I OK? Despite the warning, everything seems to be installing. Obviously, I wasn't able to install the newer packages as dependencies, but after installing them by hand, the things on which they depended seem to be installing OK, though with warnings. Anyway, I have everything installed, (except maybe a JDK - any suggestions?) and I'm at 80% in my combined root /usr partition, which feels a little tighter than I would like, but I do still have 270Mb free, so that's not too bad - that's larger than my first FreeBSD hard drive! :) OO just finished. Other than 16 packages that are newer than expected, it seems to have installed. I'm not actually with the machine, so I can't start X and kde and try it. Am I OK, or should I start over and redo something? -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:13:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8DE16A4D1 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:13:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AD743D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:13:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id C79D0285FC; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:13:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id E9932285FB; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:13:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CF36231; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:13:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0EKD3Sf061101; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:13:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:13:03 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Jeff MacDonald In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050114210754.J802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:13:14 -0000 On Jan 14 at 13:00, Jeff MacDonald launched this into the bitstream: > > I've also been told that dump lacks network support I'm not sure that's true. I sometimes take my laptop with me when I take a dump. It's got a wireless card in there so I'm able to sit there and catch up on FreeBSD-questions threads via IMAP while enjoying the benefits of a fine after dinner...err...dump...all that at 11Mps. So dump does have network support. Oh gawd...it's Friday night and this has been a l.o.n.g. week. I do apologize for the above. /me *hides* -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:23:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700B216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:23:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mss1.myactv.net (mss1.myactv.net [24.89.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE15443D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@xecu.net) Received: (qmail 12160 invoked by uid 1531); 14 Jan 2005 20:23:28 -0000 Received: from chris@xecu.net by mss1.myactv.net by uid 1006 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (clamdscan: 0.70. Clear:RC:1(24.153.115.195):. Processed in 0.032097 secs); 14 Jan 2005 20:23:28 -0000 Received: from dyn-153-115-195.myactv.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (24.153.115.195) by mss1.myactv.net with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 20:23:28 -0000 Message-ID: <41E82A3F.9000903@xecu.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:23:27 -0500 From: Christopher McGee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E81FFB.4020808@xecu.net> <41E826D8.9000003@docisland.org> In-Reply-To: <41E826D8.9000003@docisland.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dynamic IP and pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:23:29 -0000 Saad Kadhi wrote: > On 14/01/2005 20:39 Christopher McGee wrote: > >> I have a cable modem that provides a dynamic IP address to the >> outside interface of my firewall(5.3 with PF doing NAT). If my IP >> address changes I have to run a script to update my dynamic dns and >> reload my firewall rules based on the new IP address. Is there a >> recommended way of doing this other than having cron check to see if >> the IP addresss has changed? > > the PF version integrated into 5.3 supports dynamic IPs by putting > parentheses around the interface name as explained in > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/filter.html : > > The name of a network interface in parentheses ( ). This tells PF to > update the rule if the IP address(es) on the named interface change. > This is useful on an interface that gets its IP address via DHCP or > dial-up as the ruleset doesn't have to be reloaded each time the > address changes. > > > for example : > my_if="hme0" > [...] > nat on $my_if proto tcp from any to any -> ($my_if) > [...] > pass in quick on $my_if proto tcp from any to ($my_if) port domain > flags S/SAFR keep state > I have setup my pf ruleset using the parentheses. I didn't realize it would auto update them. I thought I would still need to reload the rules so that it re-reads the interface IP. I still have the dilemma of dynamic dns and a couple of other scripts that I run, based on the IP, that will require being run if the IP ever changes. I'm thinking there should be something I can do in /etc/dhclient.conf maybe to run them? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:30:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC7F16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:30:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EE943D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:30:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 58759 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 12:30:46 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 12:30:46 -0800 Message-ID: <41E82BF9.2030505@taborandtashell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:30:49 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff MacDonald References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:30:55 -0000 Jeff MacDonald wrote: On a related note: If I want to do complete dumps of all of my file systems do I need to be in single user mode? Will running in multiuser mode (with all of my normal daemons running) mess up my dumps? Thank You. -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:31:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6628316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:31:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB4C43D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:31:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8716BFD022; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:31:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E82C37.7000208@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:31:51 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd0101@aol.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:31:55 -0000 Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have paid > attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the fastest version > available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs because it doesnt > support the necessary chipsets, AND, that freebsd "people" would > rather ridicule people that ask why than fix things. > > So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the > fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the > slower, > still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S > that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. Dear Mr X. You might be aware of DragonFlyBSD - it was forked from FBSD 4.x due to disagreements on the path of development for the 5.x branch developing SMP support among other things. The founder Mathew Dillon believed his way was the better and disagreements with the FBSD development team eventually led to the fork. In july 2004 v.1.0 was released. I don't know about performance DFBSD vs FBSD5 vs FBSD4, and I don't know about hardware support, in fact I don't know much about DFBSD apart from the name. But, if you like FBSD4, then DFBSD may be a viable alternative you should try out. However, the develpment team and user base is much smaller than that of FBSD, you need to be much more oriented at contributing to the project if you want progress to be made. I suggest you give it a try, make your choice, be it FBSD4/5 or DFBSD. Both DFBSD and FBSD as you know is delivered "AS IS" granting you only the right to be happy. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:49:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804A216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:49:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palrel11.hp.com (palrel11.hp.com [156.153.255.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5086A43D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:49:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thad.butterworth@hp.com) Received: from cacexg13.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg13.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.92.1.76]) by palrel11.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2651BA2D; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) by cacexg13.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:49:42 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:49:52 -0700 Message-ID: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601FE35F5@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Thank you! Thread-Index: AcT6aPow2vQtjJi5Sh+cuO82+krbNQAEVoow From: "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 20:49:42.0988 (UTC) FILETIME=[92D938C0:01C4FA7A] cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:49:43 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd->questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Freebsd0101@aol.com >Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:43 AM >To: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu >Cc: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Thank you! > >In a message dated 1/13/05 9:05:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 >jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu writes: >>Someone who begins with their first post on the questions list with=20 >>invective and insults instead of asking a question will, not surprisingly, >>not receive much positive response. People here are interested in >>getting questions answered and problems solved. They are not >>interested in responding to juvenile attacks >------ >You really don't know what you're talking about Jerry (as usual), so=20 >why make comments when you never seem to understand the context?=20 >He asked a question and the response was "why dont you donate your >hardware to a freebsd developer".=20 > >What's "juvenile" is that all of you "guys" would rather spend your time >insulting people than finding solutions to problems. Thats what kids do. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Gary, I sent this to your other address as well because I know that you said you don't check your aol one much. I just have a small personal favor to ask. Could you please just stick to one email address? On the subject of FreeBSD I'd like to be able to filter out your replies, since you don't really add much to the discussion (unlike the great one you had on that other forum about circumventing New York Cities residence tax, you had a lot of very useful information there), but I still need to be able to receive email from some members of aol Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:49:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9721E16A4D0 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:49:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail15.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5896743D5A for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:49:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 8234 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 20:49:53 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Jan 2005 20:49:53 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 57D4368; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:49:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Christopher McGee References: <41E81FFB.4020808@xecu.net> <41E826D8.9000003@docisland.org> <41E82A3F.9000903@xecu.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 14 Jan 2005 15:49:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <41E82A3F.9000903@xecu.net> Message-ID: <44mzvbpwgg.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dynamic IP and pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:49:53 -0000 Christopher McGee writes: > I have setup my pf ruleset using the parentheses. I didn't realize it > would auto update them. I thought I would still need to reload the > rules so that it re-reads the interface IP. I still have the dilemma > of dynamic dns and a couple of other scripts that I run, based on the > IP, that will require being run if the IP ever changes. I'm thinking > there should be something I can do in /etc/dhclient.conf maybe to run > them? Sure; there are actually a few different ways. See "man dhclient-script" for the characteristics of each. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:50:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37C416A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:50:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C6D43D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:50:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0EKoN1v089470; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:50:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E81FFB.4020808@xecu.net> References: <41E81FFB.4020808@xecu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-727068695" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:50:03 -0600 To: Christopher McGee X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dynamic IP and pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:50:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-727068695 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 14, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Christopher McGee wrote: > I have a cable modem that provides a dynamic IP address to the outside > interface of my firewall(5.3 with PF doing NAT). If my IP address > changes I have to run a script to update my dynamic dns and reload my > firewall rules based on the new IP address. Is there a recommended way > of doing this other than having cron check to see if the IP addresss > has changed? > > Thanks, > Chris If you use ipfw for firewalling, try using the 'me' keyword, instead of an actual IP address. For example, I use a similar line to: ipfw add 100 deny ip from any 137-139 to me in via vr0 This line says to deny all IP traffic, from anyone, to ports 137, 138, and 139, destined for me, that is incoming on interface vr0. This means, barring any other rules, that traffice coming in on vr1 will still be accepted. HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-727068695 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHoMHwACgkQRAAY9knOW+rfqwCeKEllhTOh5B/vgPyEHxarKcnB iVcAn0TV5HqIKmKxFQdsygEECe1oruWV =q32i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-727068695-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:53:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2901416A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:53:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao10.cox.net (lakermmtao10.cox.net [68.230.240.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B13143D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:53:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050114205358.JOPM1657.lakermmtao10.cox.net@localhost> for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:53:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:53:57 -0500 From: Bob Hall To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114205357.GA50656@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , questions@freebsd.org References: <41E82BF9.2030505@taborandtashell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E82BF9.2030505@taborandtashell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:53:59 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:30:49PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote: > Jeff MacDonald wrote: > > > > On a related note: > > If I want to do complete dumps of all of my file systems do I need to be > in single user mode? Will running in multiuser mode (with all of my > normal daemons running) mess up my dumps? Use the -L flag Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 20:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB4916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:57:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1597D43D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:57:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0EKvea11335; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:57:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:57:40 -0600 From: John To: Tabor Kelly Message-ID: <20050114145740.A11218@starfire.mn.org> References: <41E82BF9.2030505@taborandtashell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <41E82BF9.2030505@taborandtashell.net>; 2005 at 12:30:49PM -0800 cc: Jeff MacDonald cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:57:46 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:30:49PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote: > Jeff MacDonald wrote: > > > > On a related note: > > If I want to do complete dumps of all of my file systems do I need to be > in single user mode? Will running in multiuser mode (with all of my > normal daemons running) mess up my dumps? If you are running FreeBSD 5.x, you get the cool "L" option on dump which will automatically snapshot the mounted filesystems. NOTE! This is WONDERFUL, but not the same as shutting things down. You will have a point-in-time image, but that may not be the end of the story. WARNING! What follows is a true depiction of the situation, but don't let it panic you. This deals with fairly pathological timing situations, which occur infrequently in small server situations with relatively few users. If you make regular, frequent backups, you will be much better off than 99% of us, anyway... What you will be protected from is a situation where files change size during the backup, so that the filesystem meta (inode) information captured at the beginning will not reflect the state of the filesystem at the end. This is a good thing to avoid. Let's take the case where you've just edited a file with vi, for instance. Let us further conjecture that you have added many lines to the top of the file, making it longer, but from the front on. Let us posit that the dump kicks off just as you are writing the new file, let's say half-way through. The top half of the file is the new data, the bottom half is the old data, and may be internally inconsistent with the front. >From an fsck point of view, there is no problem. The state of the inode and the state of the data blocks are CONSISTENT with respect to where they were at the moment the snapshot was taken (NOT guaranteed without the snapshot - in fact, without the snapshot, you could theoretically be backing up data blocks that may not even be part of that file any longer). You got a snapshot of the file between "write()" operations. Please understand that NO PERFECT SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM EXISTS TODAY in any operating system or computing environment that I know of. Oracle and other databases can guarantee RESTARTABILITY from point-in-time images, but that is at the expense of backing out incomplete transactions. Anything that the application knows belongs in the file, but which it hasn't actually WRITTEN yet, will be lost. Snapshot it wonderful, if you could make sure that all your applications were quiesced at the time of the snapshot. There is no universal way, today, of quisecing all applications (think everyting from databases to someone's first C program). So - if you can guarantee that everyone's work is in a consistent state from the application point of view at the moment the snapshot is taken, then you are golden. Otherwise, if a file is in the middle of being posted to the disk when the snapshot it taken, it will be consistent from a filesystem perspective, but may be useless as a C program, shell script, or e-mail message. The operating system simply has no way to know that the application is holding data which have not been written yet. If you make regular backups, no problem. If your recovery point happens to contain one inconsistent file (and that could only happen if the file was in the process of being written at the time the snapshot was triggered), then you can recover that file from the state it was in the previous day. Databases and other sophisticated applications are written in such a way that they can survive this sort of problem, though possibly at the expense of in-flight transactions or operations. Simpler applications, which have a sequential, linear view of data as a stream of bytes, may not be as fortunate, but the chances of getting caught at this point is very small. What can you do? Well, you can kick everyone off the system for the moment that it takes the dump snap to trigger, or you can just grin and bear it - the cost/benefit analysis is for you to make, we can only advise you of what the technology can do. You don't have to unmount the filesystems or shut down the system, but that still remains the only 100%, fool-proof, guaranteed method of having all data consistent from an application point of view. Maybe I should submit this to the handbook - or has it been covered already? I didn't see it when I was reading the backup section last night. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:04:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D107C16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:04:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7644343D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:04:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from [209.53.238.86] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CpYcu-000Jyp-3H; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:05:00 -0800 Message-ID: <41E833FB.5070306@ccstores.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:04:59 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (86) Subject: boot up notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:04:59 -0000 I would like one of my servers to send me an email when it boots. I envision a script in rc.conf to do this. Is there an easier way, or an automatic system which can do this? Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:13:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FE716A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:13:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3870A43D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:13:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 58870 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 13:13:18 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 13:13:18 -0800 Message-ID: <41E835F1.2000306@taborandtashell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:13:21 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John References: <41E82BF9.2030505@taborandtashell.net> <20050114145740.A11218@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050114145740.A11218@starfire.mn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jeff MacDonald cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:13:27 -0000 John wrote: Thanks for the _excellent_ reply. Please do submit it to the handbook. I am actually running 4.10R on all of my servers (5.3R on my desktops). I will probably boot into single user mode in the middle of the night, the worst that will happen is that some people can't get to my web site and that a little mail gets delayed. -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:30:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95C716A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:30:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0AE43D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:30:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 58896 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 13:30:10 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 13:30:10 -0800 Message-ID: <41E839E6.7070603@taborandtashell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:30:14 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Pazarena References: <41E833FB.5070306@ccstores.com> In-Reply-To: <41E833FB.5070306@ccstores.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: boot up notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:30:19 -0000 Jim Pazarena wrote: In rc.local: mail -s 'subject' your@dress.com < message_to_send.txt -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:32:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E4F16A4D1 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:32:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr (smtp8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E8843D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:32:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0801.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A78F318000AA for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:32:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0801.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7107218000B1 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:32:09 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050114213209463.7107218000B1@mwinf0801.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:32:08 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <103965421.20050114223208@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:32:11 -0000 Freebsd0101@aol.com writes: Fac> The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have Fac> paid attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the Fac> fastest version available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs Fac> because it doesnt support the necessary chipsets ... While I'll grant that this is an inconvenience, it doesn't seem to be any different from any other software publisher's policies. Most publishers will stop improving an older release family at some point in favor of a new release family. There are both good and not-so-good reasons for such policies. One good reason is that trying to continually move forward with two independent release families requires nearly twice the resources of a single family, and spreads development resources quite thin. One not-so-good reason is that old release families aren't as much fun to code for programmers as new families are, and so developers like to find reasons to abandon them. I have the same problem with other operating systems, and with other applications. My old copy of Windows NT Server won't run on or support many modern hardware configurations--that's what forced me to install Windows XP on another machine. Worse yet, I can't recycle the NT machine because some of the essential applications and hardware I use have been abandoned in Windows XP. New versions of Windows server OSes cost far more than the (already expensive) old versions, too. I don't see how this is any better than the situation with FreeBSD. Fac> ... AND, that freebsd "people" would rather ridicule people that Fac> ask why than fix things. People who work on FreeBSD have a rather puerile tendency to push away anyone who says anything they don't want to hear--I'll certainly grant that. While one can understand a certain lack of enthusiasm from a volunteer organization (they receive nothing for their efforts, so one can hardly expect them to jump on every problem and work three shifts to fix it), actively rejecting anyone who doesn't say nice things is a bit immature. This is, IMO, the single greatest obstacles to using FreeBSD in corporate and mission-critical environments, and it's the main reason why I'd be extremely hesitant about recommending FreeBSD in such environments, unless the organization in question has highly qualified in-house technicians to support the OS. You need someone to fix the OS urgently if a serious problem develops, and developers who get all pouty and stop answering the phone if you don't constantly say good things about their work are dangerously unreliable for support. Fortunately, FreeBSD is extremely reliable. But if you are using it for mission-critical production, you need to hire someone who can fix the OS on the spot if something does go wrong, because you probably won't be able to get adequate support for it from a third party. Of course, this is true for several flavors of UNIX, not just FreeBSD. It tends to militate against open-source software generally. Proprietary solutions cost a fortune, but their publishers won't stomp off in a huff just when you need them most. Fac> So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by Fac> the fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to Fac> use the slower, still-under-development 5.x. Which seems Fac> counterproductive for an O/S that is trying to establish itself as Fac> a choice as a server platform. If you are using the fastest server motherboards, then you can afford to run an operating system that is a tiny bit slower ... assuming that this is only a temporary situation, of course. If 5.x _never_ achieves parity with 4.x for performance, that's a much more serious problem. New release families should always be more performant than old release families (and don't bother to tell me that it can't be done, because I know it _can_ be done). One reason I've moved away from Windows is that it has consistently bloated over its lifetime, making every new release slower than its predecessors, and I'm not getting enough with each new release to justify the loss of performance. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:34:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E732716A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:34:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892A043D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:34:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CpZ4z-0000Ql-FD; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:01 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: John Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:34:26 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501141332.03416.algould@datawok.com> <20050114141204.A10926@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050114141204.A10926@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc271de4640706d03e699f9423e1c7b2bb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:34:03 -0000 On Friday 14 January 2005 02:12 pm, John wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:32:03PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > On Friday 14 January 2005 12:23 pm, John wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:19:20PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > > > >3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 > > > > > rather than 5.2.1. > > > > > > > > Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3, > > > > which basically worked okay. > > > > Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the > > > > other hand... > > > > > > Yes, I would say that the source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3-STABLE > > > was fine, it was the xorg/XFree86 and kde issues that made me > > > insane. It's possible that I should have just done a pkg_delete > > > -a and started over with the packages from that point, but I also > > > need to learn to use pkg_upgrade. I would not hesitate to do the > > > source upgrade again for a system which is NOT running X. > > > > > > I have now reinstalled 5.3, just to get around the Xorg->XFree86 > > > issue, and I have kde installed, and I have room to spare. So, > > > I'm much farther than I was when I ran out of room, and I still > > > have room. This is a good thing! > > > > Yes it is! (...and speaking as someone who is typing with 2 > > fractured wrists, all good news is welcome!) > > Oh, no! I'd ask what happened, but I'll wait until you're healed > up... Indoor soccer injury -- the floor is concrete. > > > I hope you have lots of fun and joy with your system before the > > next challenge (which we will gladly participate in) ! > > OK, well, it seems I spoke just a little bit too soon. Or, maybe I'm > OK, but just worried. > > I downloaded and burned an ISO 5.3 CD. I did a minimal install, > NFS mounted all the 5-stable packages I kept from the last time > around (I'm not a COMPLETE idiot!) and simply did a "pkg_add > kde-lite*". That got me a long, long ways. I also needed to do > a "pkg_add xorg-server*" but I think nearly everything else got > loaded up. I was in great shape in terms of disk footprint and > everything else I can tell from here. > > Now, at this point, I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, but I've > installed packages from FreeBSD 5-STABLE, but if my understanding > is correct, that should be OK. > > This is the point at which things got interesting. I did the > pkg_add for OOo - and found that I was missing four dependent > packages. As luck would have it, all four of them have been > updated since I started this process, so I downloaded and installed > the newer revv'ed ones, but I got an error message that > something (I wished I'd trapped the output) wanted libm.so.2. > When I look around, I find that I have libm.so.3. The four > packages were atk, pango, shared-mime-info, and gtk-2. I > think one of the post-install scripts complained that it couldn't > run something, > > Am I preparing trouble, or am I OK? Despite the warning, everything > seems to be installing. Obviously, I wasn't able to install the > newer packages as dependencies, but after installing them by hand, > the things on which they depended seem to be installing OK, though > with warnings. > > Anyway, I have everything installed, (except maybe a JDK - any > suggestions?) and I'm at 80% in my combined root /usr partition, > which feels a little tighter than I would like, but I do still have > 270Mb free, so that's not too bad - that's larger than my first > FreeBSD hard drive! :) > > OO just finished. Other than 16 packages that are newer than > expected, it seems to have installed. I'm not actually with the > machine, so I can't start X and kde and try it. > > Am I OK, or should I start over and redo something? If the package finished installing, everything may be okay (no guarantees). Create a list of frequent tasks in OpenOffice; and run OpenOffice through its paces. Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:34:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7380F16A505 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:34:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8AB43D5A for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:34:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (netch@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua with ESMTP id j0ELYCbp000712; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:34:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from netch@burka.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0ELYCwo000709; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:34:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:34:11 +0200 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Jim Pazarena Message-ID: <20050114213411.GA99642@lucky.net> References: <41E833FB.5070306@ccstores.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E833FB.5070306@ccstores.com> X-42: On X-Verify-Sender: Address has been verified (burka.carrier.kiev.ua) X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Mail Servers on kozlik.carrier.kiev.ua host X-Antivirus-Code: 100000 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: boot up notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: netch@lucky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:34:33 -0000 Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 13:04:59, fquest wrote about "boot up notification": > I would like one of my servers to send me an email when > it boots. I envision a script in rc.conf to do this. This is too bad, as rc.conf is called tens times during boot. > Is there an easier way, or an automatic system which can do this? Add to /etc/rc.local, /usr/local/etc/rc.d or '@reboot' crontab line. -netch- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:37:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971D016A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:37:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr (smtp8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501E543D49 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:37:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8ACBB1C0029D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:37:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 677DA1C0026B for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:37:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050114213733424.677DA1C0026B@mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:37:33 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <812485966.20050114223733@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200501141305.40257.zettel@acm.org> References: <200501141305.40257.zettel@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:37:34 -0000 Len Zettel writes: LZ> Better to expend resources on making 5.3 faster than 4.10 on all LZ> chipsets or retrofit 4.10 to the new ones? New OS versions should always provide either better functionality with the same performance, or better performance with the same functionality. Ideally they'd provide both better performance and better functionality. However, if a new release runs more slowly than an old release or drops functionality compared to an old release, it becomes difficult to justify "upgrading" to it. I moved to 5.3 originally because I thought I had a software problem on my server. After it turned out to be a hardware problem that required building a completely new server, I installed 5.3 simply because it was the latest available and it finally looked as though it might be stable. However, my system is not hurting for performance because it is lightly loaded in comparison with the amount of hardware horsepower it has available. On a system that is pegged to the wall most of the time, any reduction in performance is a serious problem. But then again, I know from my experience in optimizing systems that, if you are so close to the wall that you can't afford even a tiny drop in performance, you need more hardware, anyway (because an average load of, say, 99% almost invariably means many peak loads that completely overload the existing system, unless your system has an extraordinarily constant load profile). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:42:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFCA16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:42:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6F343D45 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:42:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97CE388E46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:42:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:42:02 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6285CB76D476ACDBDFBF2E9F@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <103965421.20050114223208@wanadoo.fr> References: <103965421.20050114223208@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:42:03 -0000 --On Friday, January 14, 2005 10:32:08 PM +0100 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > This is, IMO, the single greatest obstacles to using FreeBSD in > corporate and mission-critical environments, and it's the main reason > why I'd be extremely hesitant about recommending FreeBSD in such > environments, unless the organization in question has highly qualified > in-house technicians to support the OS. You need someone to fix the OS > urgently if a serious problem develops, and developers who get all pouty > and stop answering the phone if you don't constantly say good things > about their work are dangerously unreliable for support. > Not to pick a nit...well, ok...to pick a nit...developers do not support systems. Support organizations do. If you're going to be using FreeBSD in a corporate environment then you need to find a good *support* company that can backstop your local admins. *Then*, if a problem arises, the support company can deal with the developers. Linux is a good example. Entire companies have arisen merely for the purpose of supporting the code that's written by Torvald's et. al. Torvalds doesn't support "Linux". He works with the kernel developers. Another example - I doubt a single developer who's ever written a line of code for MS has handled a support call. I wouldn't expect them to. They're developers. MS has an entire support team for that (they can afford it, of course.) So, complaining that the developers don't have the right attitude is a bit off the mark. Find a local company that is *committed* to supporting FreeBSD, and you will find the same level of support you get from RH, MS, or anyone else in the business. The only difference is, support is "disconnected" from development in the FreeBSD model whereas it's one and the same company with MS. > > Of course, this is true for several flavors of UNIX, not just FreeBSD. > It tends to militate against open-source software generally. Proprietary > solutions cost a fortune, but their publishers won't stomp off in a huff > just when you need them most. > Nor would any *decent* support company. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:49:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD5216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:49:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr (smtp8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6592043D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0812.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 94E0D1C00212 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:49:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0812.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 78C8C1C00211 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:49:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:49:44 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1537802471.20050114224944@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050114145740.A11218@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050114145740.A11218@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:49:46 -0000 John writes: J> If you are running FreeBSD 5.x, you get the cool "L" option on J> dump which will automatically snapshot the mounted filesystems. What exactly is meant by a "snapshot," and how much extra disk space does it require when dump runs? I've seen the warnings when I run dump on a running multiuser system in 5.x, and I turned on the L option, since I'm not hurting on disk space, but I do wonder how much space it requires (I can't imagine a snapshot that doesn't require a lot of disk space). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:52:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B40516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:52:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8F643D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:51:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so802633wri for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:51:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=lwmzSVkeJ/D21kwIaYFDEFCfN69nwyp3UwKPT9Q8Mn227TwrRjbBD8W3S/Q0kurftxIr8T07GmHzT3DvfedrgV37lgBNSwrcypkvBzK+ykhuxdjl16UNiPoO6vOMHK9M+rm8cnBSo5f5YSXOIXzDIvdhXFgEM8kk2whcLKVYLFA= Received: by 10.54.53.21 with SMTP id b21mr507559wra; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lenore.brujeria ([201.2.205.121]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id d6sm1144wra.2005.01.14.13.51.56; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:51:59 -0800 (PST) From: Gustavo De Nardin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:54:48 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501141954.49243.gustavodn@gmail.com> Subject: Re: boot up notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:52:00 -0000 Jim Pazarena wrote: > I would like one of my servers to send me an email when > it boots. I envision a script in rc.conf to do this. > > Is there an easier way, or an automatic system which can do this? You could set up a cronjob to run at '@reboot': $ crontab -l @reboot echo | mail -s "The eagle has landed" root See crontab(5). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:57:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE7716A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:57:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay0.transip.nl (relay0.transip.nl [80.69.67.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD67743D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:57:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@walter.transip.nl) Received: from epia.lifeforms.nl (gif0.epia.lifeforms.nl [80.69.67.162]) by relay0.transip.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C26EC7; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:57:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by epia.lifeforms.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A7D5FA0; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:57:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from avalon.lifeforms.nl (avalon.lifeforms.nl [80.69.67.137]) by epia.lifeforms.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD65F9F; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:57:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:57:22 +0100 From: Walter Hop X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <202114071.20050114225722@lifeforms.nl> To: Jim Pazarena In-Reply-To: <41E833FB.5070306@ccstores.com> References: <41E833FB.5070306@ccstores.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by epia.lifeforms.nl (amavisd-new) cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: boot up notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:57:26 -0000 [in reply to fquest@ccstores.com, 14-1-2005] > I would like one of my servers to send me an email when > it boots. I envision a script in rc.conf to do this. > > Is there an easier way, or an automatic system which can do this? We are using a simple shell script that can be placed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/bootreport.sh. It sends out an email to root with the dmesg output, and also sends an email when the system is being shut down. #!/bin/sh HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`; case "$1" in start) (echo $HOSTNAME was booted at `/bin/date` ; echo ''; echo '--'; echo ''; echo 'dmesg output:' ; /sbin/dmesg) | mail -s "$HOSTNAME boot" root ;; stop) echo $HOSTNAME was shut down on user request at `/bin/date` | mail -s "$HOSTNAME shutdown" root ;; *) echo "" echo "Usage: `basename $0` { start | stop }" echo "" exit 64 ;; esac -- Walter Hop | TransIP | http://www.transip.nl/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:59:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F291416A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:59:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr (smtp8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769A743D41 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0801.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AC67B18000AB for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0801.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5EFD218000A7 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:59:56 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050114215956389.5EFD218000A7@mwinf0801.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:59:56 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <431253650.20050114225956@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6285CB76D476ACDBDFBF2E9F@utd49554.utdallas.edu> References: <103965421.20050114223208@wanadoo.fr> <6285CB76D476ACDBDFBF2E9F@utd49554.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:59:58 -0000 Paul Schmehl writes: PS> Not to pick a nit...well, ok...to pick a nit...developers do not PS> support systems. Support organizations do. If you're going to be PS> using FreeBSD in a corporate environment then you need to find a PS> good *support* company that can backstop your local admins. *Then*, PS> if a problem arises, the support company can deal with the PS> developers. I'm not sure that this is much of an improvement. Still, one of the strengths of FreeBSD is that it rarely requires support. It's better to have reliable software with little or no support than it is to have unreliable software with superb support. But in situations where you _must_ have support, just in case, you're often forced into accepting the latter. This is one argument in favor of overpriced proprietary solutions like Windows: Windows may give you a lot more trouble, but at least you can get support--for a price, alas! PS> Linux is a good example. Entire companies have arisen merely for the PS> purpose of supporting the code that's written by Torvald's et. al. PS> Torvalds doesn't support "Linux". He works with the kernel PS> developers. Linux has the same problem as FreeBSD in this respect; all open-source projects do. Third-party support is certainly an improvement, but it's still not the same as proprietary support. One important difference is that you can sue a proprietary publisher if the software fails and he does not respect his support commitment; as publisher of the software, he can be _compelled_ to fix it or pay you lots and lots of money for failing (or refusing) to fix it. With third-party support, this doesn't quite work--you can sue for failure to perform on the support aspect, but you can't force the third party to provide a fix, because it's not their code. PS> Another example - I doubt a single developer who's ever written a PS> line of code for MS has handled a support call. I wouldn't expect PS> them to. They're developers. MS has an entire support team for that PS> (they can afford it, of course.) Some developers do occasionally intervene on support issues, but it is true that developers do not answer the phones and don't work on support calls as a general rule. That would be extremely expensive and inefficient from a business standpoint, and developers would probably leave the company as well (support is really boring). It would guarantee that problems actually get fixed, though, which is not the case with the current technical support arrangement (mostly based on trial and error--just as it is for most other companies). PS> So, complaining that the developers don't have the right attitude is PS> a bit off the mark. Find a local company that is *committed* to PS> supporting FreeBSD, and you will find the same level of support you PS> get from RH, MS, or anyone else in the business. The only difference PS> is, support is "disconnected" from development in the FreeBSD model PS> whereas it's one and the same company with MS. That's a critical difference, unfortunately. It breaks the chain of accountability. MS can _force_ problems to be fixed (and can be forced by others to fix problems) because it owns the code and the developers. Third-party support organizations can't do this. It's all a matter of business rather than technical issues, but it can't be ignored when choosing an OS for large-scale or mission-critical deployment. All of the open-source solutions suffer from this problem. Lack of accountability doesn't matter as long as the software shows no bugs, but it's a nightmare if something goes wrong--and the mere possibility of that happening can rule out an open-source solution for some applications. PS> Nor would any *decent* support company. True, but third-party support companies don't own the code. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:01:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD4616A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:01:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30B443D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0EM16M06974; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:01:06 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501142201.j0EM16M06974@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: fquest@ccstores.com (Jim Pazarena) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:01:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <41E833FB.5070306@ccstores.com> from "Jim Pazarena" at Jan 14, 2005 01:04:59 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: boot up notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:01:13 -0000 > > I would like one of my servers to send me an email when > it boots. I envision a script in rc.conf to do this. > > Is there an easier way, or an automatic system which can do this? Put a little script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d name it something like /usr/local/etc/rc.d/bootmail.sh In it, put something like: #!/bin/sh echo "Coming Up at: `date`" | /usr/bin/mail -s 'Boot Notice' your@email.addr exit 0 Make sure it has execute permission and it will run at boot time. It will send you an Email message complete with the date when it boots. Note the _back_ single quotes around date. ////jerry > > Jim > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:03:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB57E16A527 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:03:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7CB43D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:03:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.bd.4f339c74 (17377); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:03:24 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:03:24 EST To: cswiger@mac.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:03:34 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 1:46:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, cswiger@mac.com writes: On Jan 14, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: >> The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have paid >> attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the fastest version >> available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs because it doesnt >> support the necessary chipsets, > >Let's pretend for a second that what you've claimed here is completely >accurate rather than exaggerated for rhetorical purposes. > >What are you doing to help, TM4321@aol, or whatever your new handle for >today is? ------- We don't have to "pretend", because Robert Watson, has outlined the issues with 5.x networking on this list, and he is in a position to know. The continued "what are you doing" is part of the problem. Its not reasonable to expect end users to support the OS as the chipset level. Thats why there is a core team. Tasks involving the inner guts of the O/S are beyond the capabilities of even the most talented of programmers without a significant learning curve. Its the kind of answer given by people with no answers. FreeBSD often uses its "centralized" decision making structure as the reason that they are superior. Yet when something doesn't work its someone else's problem. That, in a nutshell, is the problem. They beat their chests when applauded and point fingers when criticized. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:10:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D40916A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:10:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871A843D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0EMAHI11690 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:10:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:10:17 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114161017.B11519@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050114145740.A11218@starfire.mn.org> <1537802471.20050114224944@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <1537802471.20050114224944@wanadoo.fr>; from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:49:44PM +0100 Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:10:19 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:49:44PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > John writes: > > J> If you are running FreeBSD 5.x, you get the cool "L" option on > J> dump which will automatically snapshot the mounted filesystems. > > What exactly is meant by a "snapshot," and how much extra disk space > does it require when dump runs? I've seen the warnings when I run dump > on a running multiuser system in 5.x, and I turned on the L option, > since I'm not hurting on disk space, but I do wonder how much space it > requires (I can't imagine a snapshot that doesn't require a lot of disk > space). A snapshot is an abstraction of the state of the filesystem at the moment that the snapshot session begins. In order to do this, the system must preserve pre-session data as new data are written to the filesystem. Performance and storage are both considerations. The snapshot collects the pre-session data as new data are written. How much space it uses depends on how much write activity is going on in your filesystem - there's no way we can predict that for you. When you start the snapshot, the only thing in the snap is the overhead structural data. As writes happen to the filesystem, the "old" data are written to the snap save area. When something reads from the snap, it goes to the "real" filesystem if that hasn't changed, or it pulls from the snap if that corresponding data have been updated. The longer the snap is active, and the more write activitity you have, the more "preimage" data will need to be written to the snap area. Performance is affected in this way - when a new write comes in, unless the preimage data are already in the cache buffers, it has to be read from the standard filesystem and posted to the snap area before the write can complete. That turns a single write operation into a read plus two writes. That consumes CPU and SCSI bus resources, as well as making your spindles more active. Worst case, if your filesystem was 100% over-written, the snap would eventually contain all of the original data from the filesystem, plus the overhead structural information. This should be pathological. In real environments, the snap area tends to start out with a burst, and then asymptotically approach a value which is characteristic of a specific workload. We tend to re-write recent data more frequently (thing of updates to active inodes, or debugging and recompiling) and older data tends to get written to less frequently (by definition- it it was written a lot, it wouldn't be "older"). A change in workload can cause a new burst of snap activity, but still, the BROAD BRUSH, OVERLY SIMPLIFIED VALUE that you can expect is 20% for a full-day snapshot on a moderately active system. If you are only snapping for the duration of the backup, the overhead could be MUCH lower. Your mileage WILL vary. No guarantees are implied or expressed. Of course, if you start multiple snap sessions, the overhead can eventually be 100% + for each snap session. That's ridiculous in practice, but it is the theoretical upper limit. The practical upper limit will entirely depend on your environment. See? I am still a real engineer! My answer, ultimately, is "it depends!" -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:13:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988E316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:13:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com (imo-m21.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35F543D2D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:13:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id e.fb.688f67fc (17377); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:13:31 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:13:31 EST To: nalists@scls.lib.wi.us MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:13:58 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 1:54:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, nalists@scls.lib.wi.us writes: > >> So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the >> fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the >> slower, >> still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S >> that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. >> >>As was pretty clearly explained in previous threads, FreeBSD 5.x is >>slower than 4.x *at certain tasks under certain conditions* because >>it is rather considerably more featureful and complex than 4.x ---- Unfortunately, one of those "tasks" is networking, which is required by every server that I know of. As Mr. Watson pointed out, 5.x has significant "per-packet" inefficiencies. Servers are judged by their capacity, which is a per-packet issue. Which means that, as a "server", 5.x is 25-30% less efficient than 4.x. Inefficient, for you high-schoolers, means "slower" in this context. It helps if you understand the big picture. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:17:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE25016A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:17:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D4143D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:17:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0EMHS7w015163 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:17:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <08056CAB-667A-11D9-9A7E-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-732293911" To: FreeBSD Questions From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:17:09 -0600 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net Subject: phpMyAdmin installation troubles... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:17:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-732293911 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I'm trying to install phpmyadmin from ports. I keep getting an error about PDF-Lite-6.0.0p1.tar.gz. The only files available now are 6.0.1. I've done a cvsup, but to no avail. Please help. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-732293911 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHoROUACgkQRAAY9knOW+pe+gCgky00neCifJLPYkEzUVvVMflp ebYAn3TBlBLevT1oNS/YJHzv1teHqYe0 =jr6K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-732293911-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:36:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696E016A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:36:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040CE43D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:36:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id g.80.1f21edc1 (17377); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:36:25 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <80.1f21edc1.2f19a369@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:36:25 EST To: kris@obsecurity.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:36:35 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 2:05:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, kris@obsecurity.org writes: >It's too bad he's now choosing to be even more antisocial >by changing his email address to avoid the procmail filters of those >for whom his rantings have lost their amusementKris No, I've changed my address because the faggot at catwhisker.org keeps removing me from the list. Why doesn't someone just answer the question? When Watson finally admitted publically that 5.x has networking issues it ended the last discussion. Just answer the question. Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x when you admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. Is there some payday down the road for someone? Volunteers or not, there is some agenda beyond whats being stated. FreeBSD "team" doesnt seem to give a rats butt about the user base. Their motivations are not to the users, it clearly to some corporate sponsor agenda that has nothing to do with end users. It USED to be to the user base. Now the user base is just a bunch of guinea pigs to test the "new" os which is still 2 years away. If you want to engage in a 3 year project to fix SMP, you dont subject the user base to 2 years of using a hacked up O/S in the process while abandoning the one that works. All of the hackers lists have gone private, there is no "discussion" of what issues are important with the customer base. And all of you bubbleheads are just pleased as punch that your USB printer works. Its really quite unbelievable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:38:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A527A16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:38:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602DE43D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:38:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from [209.53.238.86] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpa5L-000KyP-06; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:38:27 -0800 Message-ID: <41E849E1.4020803@ccstores.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:38:25 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20050114210755.13772.qmail@web53803.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050114210755.13772.qmail@web53803.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (86) Subject: rc.d execution was:boot up notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:38:24 -0000 Gregor Mosheh wrote: >>I would like one of my servers to send me an email >>when >>it boots. I envision a script in rc.conf to do this. >>Is there an easier way, or an automatic system which >>can do this? > > > I put this script in my /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory. > I want it to run last, so I name it 999.notify.sh > > #!/bin/sh > do the rc scripts execute the file(s) it finds in an order OTHER than the normal ascii sequence? Reason I ask is that "999..." falls AFTER upper-case and BEFORE lower-case. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:43:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DF616A4E7 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:43:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DC943D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:43:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0EMh1A07185; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:43:01 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200501142243.j0EMh1A07185@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: fquest@ccstores.com (Jim Pazarena) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:43:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <41E849E1.4020803@ccstores.com> from "Jim Pazarena" at Jan 14, 2005 02:38:25 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: rc.d execution was:boot up notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:43:08 -0000 > > Gregor Mosheh wrote: > >>I would like one of my servers to send me an email > >>when > >>it boots. I envision a script in rc.conf to do this. > >>Is there an easier way, or an automatic system which > >>can do this? > > > > > > I put this script in my /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory. > > I want it to run last, so I name it 999.notify.sh > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > do the rc scripts execute the file(s) it finds in an order > OTHER than the normal ascii sequence? Reason I ask is that > "999..." falls AFTER upper-case and BEFORE lower-case. I don't know the order for sure. I think they use an unmodified sort order, but... But a comment, you should probably put in the case for start and stop even if you use the extra simple script in posted because otherwise you will get the same boot message for both boots and shutdowns. Sorry, I was too busy on other things to notice that bit. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:44:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D40516A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:44:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8975243D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:44:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO chesed.razorfever.net) (plick@rogers.com@70.25.112.61 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 22:44:45 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (newskool.razorfever.net [192.168.0.10]) j0EMigin038503; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:44:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Message-ID: <41E84B5B.909@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:44:43 -0500 From: Derek User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toomas Aas References: <41E7C675.4040703@rogers.com> <41E805C5.1050407@raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <41E805C5.1050407@raad.tartu.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing both disks in RAID1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:44:49 -0000 Toomas Aas wrote: > But if it is necessary, it should be possible to bring the machine up to > single user mode and modify the fstab there, right? Given, of course, > that the root partition is left on ar0s1a. Yes, that makes fine sense. Although if you want to feel _really_ good about it, have a live CD on hand. I would recommend FreeSBIE 1.1, but it won't boot with the Promise card. (at least for me and others it won't... see pr: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/72960) Cheers, Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 22:55:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2241516A4CE; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:55:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6249E43D54; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B8FA5129D; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:55:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:55:09 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <20050114225509.GA88414@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <80.1f21edc1.2f19a369@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <80.1f21edc1.2f19a369@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: postmaster@FreeBSD.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Evading mailing list filters (Re: Thank you!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:55:13 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 05:36:25PM -0500, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/14/05 2:05:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > kris@obsecurity.org writes: > >It's too bad he's now choosing to be even more antisocial > >by changing his email address to avoid the procmail filters of those > >for whom his rantings have lost their amusementKris >=20 > No, I've changed my address because the faggot at catwhisker.org keeps=20 > removing me from the list.=20 So, as I said, you're being antisocial. Thanks for confirming that you're deliberately evading the filters, in violation of the AOL terms of use. > Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x > when you admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. Jamie, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about how the FreeBSD community works. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can be explained to someone like you, because you have your own fixed ideas about how you think the world works and are not willing to listen to any explanations of how reality differs. Kris --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6E3NWry0BWjoQKURAgn7AJ45t7RiKgGwO+idSZRSgs8TSZ/wpgCg8y+Z VITGYQCcqyxsQKDIZopNc04= =0rxr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:12:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CB116A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:12:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0696A43D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:12:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 75098 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 23:12:42 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 23:12:42 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: Doug Poland Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:12:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> <200501130951.17307.4711@chello.at> <20050114194303.GB61113@omniresources.com> In-Reply-To: <20050114194303.GB61113@omniresources.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501150012.42358.4711@chello.at> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 (SOLVED) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:12:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 January 2005 20:43, Doug Poland wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:51:03AM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote: > > On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:54, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > > > I'm having a problem with gmirror. It would seem that I cannot add my > > > first disk to the mirror after booting off the second drive. My > > > current status is a degraded mirror and I cannot see any of the > > > partitions on disk one. > > > > > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 > > > > You probably destroyed your slice table here. The dd command only makes > > sense if you insert whole disks (ie. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6) as providers. > > Otherwise you need to create (or already have) a valid slice table on the > > disk, which enables gmirror to locate and insert your slice. > > One of my problems was incorrect partition sizes when I created the > bsdlabel for /dev/mirror/gm0s1. I didn't really know what I was doing > nor did I understand the consequences of my actions ;) :) > > (!) Before you start to correct your gmirror setup, please read all of my > > comments, because to me it looks like you run a mirror of ad6 and not > > ad6s1. > > I'm not sure why gmirror label shows that but it's definately misleading. > Since this is a brand-new box with nothing but a minimal install, I > decided to re-install 5.3-R. This time I got the install right and > gmirror reads: This looks like gmirror in fact uses the the whole disk. The difference between the providers and the consumers length is 63 sectors, which is the first slice's offset (see fdisk below). > Geom name: gm0s1 > State: COMPLETE > Components: 2 > Balance: round-robin > Slice: 4096 > Flags: NONE > SyncID: 1 > ID: 3524221455 > Providers: > 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1 > Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e1 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ad4 > Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e2 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: DIRTY > SyncID: 1 > ID: 2031344187 > 2. Name: ad6 > Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e2 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: DIRTY > SyncID: 1 > ID: 3116345061 > > Geom name: gm0s1.sync > > > I'm going to include the steps I took, with one deviation from the > published doc I referenced, and ask a couple more questions. > > > 1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 bs=512 count=79 > 2 fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad6 > 3 > 4 gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1 > 5 gmirror load > 6 > 7 bsdlabel -w -B /dev/mirror/gm0s1 > 8 bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1 > 9 > 10 newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1a > 11 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt > 12 dump -L -0 -f- / | ( cd /mnt ; restore -r -v -f- ) > 13 newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1d > 14 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /mnt/var > 15 dump -L -0 -f- /var | ( cd /mnt/var ; restore -r -v -f- ) > 16 newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1e > 17 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /mnt/tmp > 18 dump -L -0 -f- /tmp | ( cd /mnt/tmp ; restore -r -v -f- ) > 19 newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1f > 20 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /mnt/usr > 21 dump -L -0 -f- /usr | ( cd /mnt/usr ; restore -r -v -f- ) > 22 > 23 cp -p /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.orig > 24 sed -e 's/dev\/ad4s1/dev\/mirror\/gm0s1/g' < /mnt/etc/fstab.orig > > /mnt/etc/fstab > 25 echo 'swapoff="YES"' >> /mnt/etc/rc.conf > 26 echo 'geom_mirror_load="YES"' >> /mnt/boot/loader.conf > 27 echo "1:ad(6,a)/boot/loader" > /boot.config > 28 > 29 shutdown -r now > 30 > 31 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 > 32 fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 > 33 gmirror configure -a gm0s1 > 34 gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 > 35 sh -c 'while [ ".`gmirror list | grep SYNCHRONIZING`" != . ]; do sleep > 1; done' 36 > 37 shutdown -r now > > On line 32, I deviated from the instructions on: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ > > The published command was: > > size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size > \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -B -f- > -i /dev/ad4 > > That command returned: "improperly placed quotes ()". I set the value > of $size manually but it was some small number like 50000. I wrote it > to ad4 but the command on line 33 puked. So I simply issued the command > shown on line 32. I ever handled this by sysinstall. The above commands simply sets up the first slice (1) to a FreeBSD-type slice (165) starting at offset (63) with length ($size) of the first slice of ad6 and sets the active flag on the first slice (1). The command 'fdisk ad6' shows the size of the slice(s) on ad6. The same length should be used for ad4. I tried to run the above commands under /bin/sh: # size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` # (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") p 1 165 63 240107427 a 1 # (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -t -B -f -i mirror/mirror0 ******* Working on device /dev/mirror/mirror0 ******* So all the commands seem to work properly. Did you run this under /bin/sh? > Question: On line 27 we issue the command to... > # instruct boot stage 2 loader on first disk to boot > # with the boot stage 3 loader from the second disk > # (mainly because BIOS might not allow easy booting from second ATA disk > # or at least requires manual intervention on the console) > > So how do I get rid of that boot.config file? Should I get rid of it? If you have a modern machine the BIOS (hopefully) can boot from every harddisks that has a partition/slice on it with the active flag set. I for myself use a bootmanager on every gmirror disk. You can install it with boot0cfg(8) or sysinstall (I only would use boot0cfg, if your mirror already has been set up). > Question: On line 25 we set swapoff=YES. Is this necessary if I'm going > to run 5-STABLE? What are the implications of having swap on a mirror > like this? No, if you run stable you don't need this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-all/2005-January/099589.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-all/2005-January/099590.html On 5-STABLE systems, younger than the cvsdate of the above commits, the /etc/rc.d/swap1 script runs on system shutdown and ensures that (eventually mirrored) swap devices are stopped before gmirror shuts down. Otherwise the mirror will brake. This is the reason why you need to set swapoff=YES. The recommend method to reboot your gmirrored system is 'shutdown -r now' instead of 'reboot'. Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6FHq09WjGjvKU74RAj0cAKCAz3yT6ZPbbsW+h+ob8xoiazfCiwCghDH9 v9U3rfes4F3C/+JOpB+Kn2o= =Iu3w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:26:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E4B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:26:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1D643D1D for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0ENQXcb060519 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:26:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-736438357" To: FreeBSD Questions From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:26:13 -0600 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net Subject: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:26:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-736438357 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello list, I have to admit that, despite many years of experience using FreeBSD, I am completely lost. I've looked for all the how-to documents, and general documentation I can, and I don't find it a whole lot of help. Here's what I've got going, and what I hope to achieve. First off, I have a running sendmail server with qpopper. Sendmail is configured for authentication, and it all uses the system user/pass database. I don't currently have SSL/TLS installed, but I've done it before, and it's not a huge concern right now. What I need is a slightly different setup for my users. As I mentioned in an earlier email, I want to install an IMAP server. From what I've gleaned from various sources, I need to change from mbox format to maildir. Is this correct? Also, I've come to the understanding that IMAP uses a totally different internal MTA, and thus a different user database? Can someone point me in the right direction? I've kinda got courier-imap installed from ports, but I can't log in. First off, how can I configure courier-imap to use the system accounts? If I can get this, I can probably work through the SSL/TLS for IMAP, amongst other things. Does anyone have a similar setup they can share their experiences about? TIA _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-736438357 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHoVRUACgkQRAAY9knOW+r7qwCeP8hXZ+N/bEgVzufaX4msNJre To4An3ZrnVzpTNU2nyZhlRyvehoBx01Z =FfQN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-736438357-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:29:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539AE16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:29:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp30.hccnet.nl (smtp30.hccnet.nl [62.251.0.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9FC43D4C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@hustinx.org) Received: from freebsd.pieter.org by smtp30.hccnet.nl id j0ENTKRH020958 (8.13.2/2.05); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:29:20 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:29:36 +0100 From: Pieter Hustinx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050115002936.273239a6.freebsd-questions@hustinx.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0rc (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mounting Iomega USB2 DVD writer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:29:22 -0000 Hi, I've compiled a new kernel with EHCI support. Output of dmesg: usb2: EHCI version 0.95 usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered umass0: IOMEGA DVDRW8440E2D-B, rev 2.00/0.02, addr 2 Output of usbdevs: addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA addr 1: EHCI root hub, VIA addr 2: DVDRW8440E2D-B, IOMEGA addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA addr 2: hub, Philips Semiconductors addr 3: EIZO USB HID Monitor, EIZO addr 4: DeskJet 930C, Hewlett-Packard addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA The dvd writer is recognized, but i can't find a device like /dev/da0 or umass0. what could be the problem, device maybe not supported. Any suggestions? I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 -- Regards, Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:36:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D5416A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:36:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7588D43D1F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:36:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.67.3c455a91 (16633) for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:36:35 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <67.3c455a91.2f19b183@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:36:35 EST To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:36:38 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 5:56:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, kris@obsecurity.org writes: >> Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x >> when you admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. >Jamie, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about how the >FreeBSD community works. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can >be explained to someone like you, because you have your own fixed >ideas about how you think the world works and are not willing to >listen to any explanations of how reality differs. ----- I know how linux, windows, openbsd and every other major open source project works, and I know how FreeBSD used to work. I don't know of any other "open source" project that abandons its best version to spend 2 years working on a re-write. I dont know of any other project that works like that. How about a list of projects with an installed base similar to FreeBSD that "works" like that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:39:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0C016A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:39:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DA143D39 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:39:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [172.24.24.105] (rfc1918-address.calarts.edu [172.24.24.105] (may be forged)) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j0ENdYw19575 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:39:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E85835.6030705@calarts.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:39:33 -0800 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: passwd logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:39:37 -0000 I want to start logging to a file any succseses or failures when a user envokes the passwd command. I came across editing the pam.conf file but I don't know what to add. Can anyone help? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:42:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2851C16A524 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:42:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unixusers.co.uk (unixusers.co.uk [82.133.118.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B6243D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:42:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.jenkins@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (win1 [192.168.0.3]) by unixusers.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0ENghHq010301; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:42:43 GMT (envelope-from david.jenkins@gmail.com) Message-ID: <41E858F4.703@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:42:44 +0000 From: David Jenkins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric F Crist References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:42:50 -0000 Eric F Crist wrote: > Hello list, > > I have to admit that, despite many years of experience using FreeBSD, I > am completely lost. I've looked for all the how-to documents, and > general documentation I can, and I don't find it a whole lot of help. > Here's what I've got going, and what I hope to achieve. > > First off, I have a running sendmail server with qpopper. Sendmail is > configured for authentication, and it all uses the system user/pass > database. I don't currently have SSL/TLS installed, but I've done it > before, and it's not a huge concern right now. > > What I need is a slightly different setup for my users. As I mentioned > in an earlier email, I want to install an IMAP server. From what I've > gleaned from various sources, I need to change from mbox format to > maildir. Is this correct? Also, I've come to the understanding that > IMAP uses a totally different internal MTA, and thus a different user > database? > > Can someone point me in the right direction? I've kinda got > courier-imap installed from ports, but I can't log in. First off, how > can I configure courier-imap to use the system accounts? If I can get > this, I can probably work through the SSL/TLS for IMAP, amongst other > things. > > Does anyone have a similar setup they can share their experiences about? > > TIA > > _______________________________________________________ > Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" > Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson Not too sure about Courier and system accounts. I may be wrong but I think it's for virtual users ... I tried it a long time ago and configured it to use a MySQL database for the user accounts/passwords. I currently use dovecot (/usr/ports/mail/dovecot). It's very very fast, and highly stable and secure. It support mbox or Maildir, POP3/IMAP and SSL. As an example, using standard IMAP with Maildir, I have a few folders with thousands of emails in and I can view anyone in less than 0.5 seconds. If you just want to use system accounts then I don't know of a better all round IMAP server. Cheers, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:44:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D541E16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:44:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388BE43D3F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:44:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:10063 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpb6w-000BEn-QS; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:44:10 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EE21A9A7; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:43:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B3C3700E; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:44:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E85941.9050705@scii.nl> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:44:01 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric F Crist , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:44:16 -0000 Eric F Crist wrote: > What I need is a slightly different setup for my users. As I mentioned > in an earlier email, I want to install an IMAP server. From what I've > gleaned from various sources, I need to change from mbox format to > maildir. Is this correct? no, this is not correct, it depends on which imap-software you should to run, afaik courier-imap uses the Maildir only, but i know that there are IMAP-servers which don't rely on the Maildir-format only there are several scripts/programs on the net to convert mbox to maildir, and the other way around > Also, I've come to the understanding that > IMAP uses a totally different internal MTA, and thus a different user > database? > no, cyrus-imapd does, but most, if not all, of the others don't by default > Can someone point me in the right direction? I've kinda got > courier-imap installed from ports, but I can't log in. First off, how > can I configure courier-imap to use the system accounts? If I can get > this, I can probably work through the SSL/TLS for IMAP, amongst other > things. after installation there's this text : You will have to run /usr/local/share/courier-imap/mkimapdcert to create a self-signed certificate if you want to use imapd-ssl. And you will have to copy and edit the *.dist files to * in /usr/local/etc/courier-imap. 1) assuming you're using courier-imap 4.0.1.x, do you have the following in /etc/rc.conf ? : courier_authdaemond_enable="YES" courier_imap_imapd_enable="YES" courier_imap_imapd_ssl_enable="YES" 2) did you look at /usr/local/etc/courier-imap/ ? change imapd.cnf to your liking and run /usr/local/share/courier-imap/mkimapdcert that'll give you a self-made SSL-cert to use with courier-imapd-ssl 3) ps auxw|grep courier should show imapd and the authdaemon running 4) take a look at /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and read also /usr/ports/UPDATING HTH, GL! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:46:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB2B16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:46:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB75F43D2F for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:46:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9BAB51A48; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:46:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:46:24 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <20050114234624.GA4548@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <67.3c455a91.2f19b183@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <67.3c455a91.2f19b183@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:46:31 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:36:35PM -0500, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/14/05 5:56:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > kris@obsecurity.org writes: > >> Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x > >> when you admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. >=20 > >Jamie, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about how the > >FreeBSD community works. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can > >be explained to someone like you, because you have your own fixed > >ideas about how you think the world works and are not willing to > >listen to any explanations of how reality differs. > ----- > I know how linux, windows, openbsd and every other major open > source project works, and I know how FreeBSD > used to work. I don't know of any other "open source" project > that abandons its best version to spend 2 years working on=20 > a re-write. Me either, including FreeBSD. Kris --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6FnOWry0BWjoQKURAhv5AJ4wS9ykKCa6FRL1te8igHLtHLpwpQCg5Sn0 CU/i1W5iGrXFwz8P7j6wcJM= =a8bs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 23:47:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A433C16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:47:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A09E43D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:47:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0ENkpHd087791 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E859B9.4080009@mac.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:01 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Murphy References: <41E85835.6030705@calarts.edu> In-Reply-To: <41E85835.6030705@calarts.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: passwd logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:47:26 -0000 Sean Murphy wrote: > I want to start logging to a file any succseses or failures when a user > envokes the passwd command. I came across editing the pam.conf file but > I don't know what to add. Can anyone help? Look at syslogd (/etc/syslog.conf) and /var/log/security or /var/log/auth.log, I suspect that what you want to see is already being logged there. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:06:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02F616A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:06:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1792A43D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:06:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB4AFD022; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:06:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E85E8B.6040001@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:06:35 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd0101@aol.com References: <80.1f21edc1.2f19a369@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <80.1f21edc1.2f19a369@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:06:41 -0000 Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > Why doesn't someone just answer the question? When Watson finally > admitted publically that 5.x has networking issues it ended the last > discussion. Just answer the question. Focusing on one cludge is meaningless - who cares if your network is a little slow, or just slower than 4.x if disk or server apps can't keep up with it anyway? 4.x, 5.0-2 and DragonFlyBSD all suffer from the GIANT cludge. PHK has done a lot of work to resolve this cludge, all results may not be in 5.3. > Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x > when you admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. This is very obvious: There are limited resources: The time of the developers is precious. Keeping an old system updated costs time and takes away resources to address the remaining issues with the new version. In every realworld project there comes a point where you have to release the project even if it is not perfect or near perfect. Microsoft do this all the time, and they can't even claim they don't have the money to boost development. At some point it becomes meaningless to try to keep the old version updated. The BSD-team - like it or not - has chosen that this point is about now. If you disagree you have the following choices: 1) Use something else, 2) fork your own project or 3) be happy with the decision and provide usefull feedback to the developers to help the progress of the development. > Their motivations are not to the users, it clearly to > some corporate sponsor agenda that has nothing to do with end users. Prove that - that statement is completely unbiased. Maybe read Eric Raymonds "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" although BSD is not so much a bazaar, development is most often triggered by scratching your own itch. Not the users' nor any corporation. > All of the hackers lists have gone private, there is no "discussion" of > what issues are important with the customer base. And all of you > bubbleheads are just pleased as punch that your USB printer works. > Its really quite unbelievable. There is no customer base - only users who choose to use BSD because they think it is the best choice for whateever their problem is. If you have a problem that *BSD does not solve for you, develop the solution or pay someone to do it or use whatever solves your problem and be happy with that solution. You have the freedom to choose. If you think FreeBSD is hostile to it's userbase, go have fun on misc@openbsd.org - this is supposed to be the user list, a catchup list for anything that doesn't fit on the other lists. It's fun :-) just don't propose any "improvement" unless you're a core-developer or you get flamed, burned and cut into little pieces. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:16:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755BF16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:16:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF86E43D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:16:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id g.a3.6b1915e8 (16781); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:16:33 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:16:33 EST To: kris@obsecurity.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:16:56 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 6:47:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, kris@obsecurity.org writes: >> I know how linux, windows, openbsd and every other major open >> source project works, and I know how FreeBSD >> used to work. I don't know of any other "open source" project >> that abandons its best version to spend 2 years working on >> a re-write. >> >Me either, including FreeBSD. ----- Ah, so if you are in complete and total denial of "reality", how can you claim that other don't understand it? All of the above has been proven, so why don't you think it applies to FreeBSD? Speak. You seem like one of these guys who claims to understand "the world" but has no ability to verbalize it. Saying you can't explain because I wouldn't understand is is a cop out, worthy of the fraud you are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:18:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAF016A4CF for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:18:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7D943D1F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:18:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [172.24.24.105] (rfc1918-address.calarts.edu [172.24.24.105] (may be forged)) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j0F0I6w23899 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:18:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E8613E.20505@calarts.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:18:06 -0800 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: passwd logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:18:07 -0000 I checked out syslog.conf and did not see what to uncomment to add the passwd logging it currently logs bad logins and su but not successful changed passwds then I had a look at /var/log/security but nothing was in that file. hmm would I have to add a line to the syslog.conf file to log this type of activity? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:19:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4B716A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:19:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DD343D54 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:19:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0F0J7jI006765 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:19:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E86149.4040801@mac.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:18:17 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Murphy References: <41E85835.6030705@calarts.edu> <41E859B9.4080009@mac.com> <41E85E2A.7040907@calarts.edu> In-Reply-To: <41E85E2A.7040907@calarts.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd Questions Subject: Re: passwd logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:19:13 -0000 Sean Murphy wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Look at syslogd (/etc/syslog.conf) and /var/log/security or >> /var/log/auth.log, I suspect that what you want to see is already >> being logged there. >> > I checked out syslog.conf and did not see what to uncomment to add the > passwd logging it currently logs bad logins and su but not successful > changed passwds then I had a look at /var/log/security but nothing was > in that file. hmm would I have to add a line to the syslog.conf file to > log this type of activity? Take a look at the end of /usr/src/usr.bin/passwd/local_passwd.c: [ ... ] if (!pw_mkdb(uname)) pw_error((char *)NULL, 0, 1); #ifdef LOGGING syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "user %s changed their local password\n", uname); #endif return (0); } This message is being logged at DEBUG priority level, so I believe you should change the line in /etc/syslog.conf from "auth.info" to "auth.debug" and restart syslogd. Or you could adjust this code to log using a higher priority (or write the info to a file directly, or whatever else you like), and build and reinstall the passwd binary with your changes. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:28:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6160716A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:28:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com (imo-m18.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E473D43D58 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:28:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id r.d.3ba0b990 (16781); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:27:44 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:27:44 EST To: norgaard@locolomo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:28:25 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 7:07:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, norgaard@locolomo.org writes: Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: >> Why doesn't someone just answer the question? When Watson finally >> admitted publically that 5.x has networking issues it ended the last >> discussion. Just answer the question. > >Focusing on one cludge is meaningless - who cares if your network is a >little slow, or just slower than 4.x if disk or server apps can't keep >up with it anyway? 4.x, 5.0-2 and DragonFlyBSD all suffer from the GIANT >cludge. PHK has done a lot of work to resolve this cludge, all results >may not be in 5.3. > >> Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x >> when you admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. > >This is very obvious: There are limited resources: The time of the >developers is precious. Keeping an old system updated costs time and >takes away resources to address the remaining issues with the new version. ----- I'd question your categorization of 4.10 as an "old system". Its the current system that works optimally. Its only "old" because you've purposely antiquated it. If you read Mr Watson's explanation you'd know that its not a "kludge". There are fundamental algorithms in the O/S proper that are being redone. "networking performance" is not a kludge. Its fundamental to usability of the O/S as a server. I understand that resources are scarce, but you are risking losing a significant and important part of your user base for reasons that seem questionable. Linux is light years ahead in SMP and now you're risking your advantage in uniprocessor performance. You're risking disappearing from the map altogether, IMO. Thanks for answering the question. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:30:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA2116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:30:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F8543D46 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:30:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0F0U0Fn012161 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:30:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:29:10 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric F Crist References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:30:06 -0000 Eric F Crist wrote: [ ... ] > What I need is a slightly different setup for my users. As I mentioned > in an earlier email, I want to install an IMAP server. From what I've > gleaned from various sources, I need to change from mbox format to > maildir. Is this correct? No, there exist IMAP servers which work just fine with the classic mbox format. Take a look at /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw in particular. > Also, I've come to the understanding that IMAP uses a totally different > internal MTA, and thus a different user database? Many IMAP servers support external databases for holding users instead of, or in addition to, the standard Unix user accounts. Some use SASL (Cyrus), some use database access via MySQL or some such (Dovecot, Courier, others?). > Can someone point me in the right direction? I've kinda got > courier-imap installed from ports, but I can't log in. First off, how > can I configure courier-imap to use the system accounts? If I can get > this, I can probably work through the SSL/TLS for IMAP, amongst other > things. If you're having configuration issues with Courier, drop back ten yards and punt by trying the UW IMAP server. It has zero runtime configuration options, so it basicly can't be misconfigured. (Well, compile-time options can affect things, but the port will do the right thing for FreeBSD.) On the positive side, UW IMAP was written by Mark Crispin, who was one of the authors of the IMAP protocol. On the minus side, the security history of the UW-IMAP software and the associated MUA pine is somewhat grim-- perhaps best compared to the security woes of sendmail. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:36:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA81C16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:36:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A409343D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:36:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cocamarin@yahoo.es) Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (cocamarin@81.35.216.171 with plain) by smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 00:35:58 -0000 Message-ID: <41E86562.6090001@yahoo.es> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:35:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Abel_Coca_Mar=EDn?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0502-3, 14/01/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: USB2.0 support for Intel ICH5 chipset? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:36:03 -0000 Hello Kelsey: I also have an Asus P4P8x motherboard. What can I do for using USB 2.0 under Windows xp ? Thanks, Abel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:41:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C88B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:41:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8972D43D5A for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:41:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [172.24.24.105] (rfc1918-address.calarts.edu [172.24.24.105] (may be forged)) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j0F0fTw26491 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:41:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E866B8.4050702@calarts.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:41:28 -0800 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E85835.6030705@calarts.edu> <41E859B9.4080009@mac.com> <41E85E2A.7040907@calarts.edu> <41E86149.4040801@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <41E86149.4040801@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: passwd logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:41:31 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Sean Murphy wrote: > >> Chuck Swiger wrote: >> >>> Look at syslogd (/etc/syslog.conf) and /var/log/security or >>> /var/log/auth.log, I suspect that what you want to see is already >>> being logged there. >>> >> I checked out syslog.conf and did not see what to uncomment to add >> the passwd logging it currently logs bad logins and su but not >> successful changed passwds then I had a look at /var/log/security but >> nothing was in that file. hmm would I have to add a line to the >> syslog.conf file to log this type of activity? > > > Take a look at the end of /usr/src/usr.bin/passwd/local_passwd.c: > > [ ... ] > if (!pw_mkdb(uname)) > pw_error((char *)NULL, 0, 1); > #ifdef LOGGING > syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "user %s changed their local password\n", > uname); > #endif > return (0); > } > > This message is being logged at DEBUG priority level, so I believe you > should change the line in /etc/syslog.conf from "auth.info" to > "auth.debug" and restart syslogd. > > Or you could adjust this code to log using a higher priority (or write > the info to a file directly, or whatever else you like), and build and > reinstall the passwd binary with your changes. > tried the syslog changed it to auth.debug restarted the daemon tried changing my password but did not log the succsessful change. here is my syslog.conf file # $FreeBSD: src/etc/syslog.conf,v 1.13.2.4 2003/05/12 13:59:23 yar Exp $ # # Spaces ARE valid field separators in this file. However, # other *nix-like systems still insist on using tabs as field # separators. If you are sharing this file between systems, you # may want to use only tabs as field separators here. # Consult the syslog.conf(5) manpage. *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages security.* /var/log/security auth.debug;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log mail.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs cron.* /var/log/cron *.emerg * # uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log #console.info /var/log/console.log # uncomment this to enable logging of all log messages to /var/log/all.log # touch /var/log/all.log and chmod it to mode 600 before it will work #*.* /var/log/all.log # uncomment this to enable logging to a remote loghost named loghost #*.* @loghost # uncomment these if you're running inn # news.crit /var/log/news/news.crit # news.err /var/log/news/news.err # news.notice /var/log/news/news.notice !startslip *.* /var/log/slip.log !ppp *.* /var/log/ppp.log anything wrong with this conf? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:47:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC56316A4CF for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:47:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nu.binary.net (nu.binary.net [216.229.0.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AE443D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:47:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bwkahle@binary.net) Received: from binary.exchange.binary.net (exchange.binary.net [216.229.0.7]) by nu.binary.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A81415B23 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:47:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:47:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <24CF3A7650B276458F0A28E49AF18EBE015FBE@binary.exchange.binary.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Thread-Topic: NFS file locking Thread-Index: AcT6m84AWE8jK6yETpSApEP6vzhviQ== From: "Bryce Kahle" To: Subject: NFS file locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:47:22 -0000 I've been researching NFS and its file locking capabilities on FreeBSD and I can't seem to find the answer to my question, so I thought I would ask it here. In this document http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-post.h tml#NETWORK-CONFIGURATION-CONT It mentions this: "The next option listed here is the rpc.lockd option, which, when selected, will provide file locking services. This is usually used with rpc.statd to monitor what hosts are requesting locks and how frequently they request them. While these last two options are marvelous for debugging, they are not required for NFS servers and clients to operate correctly." Is rpc.lockd required for fcntl() style locking to work correctly? Bryce Kahle Systems Administrator - Binary Net 1-402-742-7042 http://www.binary.net/ =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 01:17:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7479B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:17:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D7E43D55 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:17:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 59389 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 17:17:19 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 17:17:19 -0800 Message-ID: <41E86F1E.7000407@taborandtashell.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:17:18 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Spector References: <41E6BA70.5010701@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download from Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:17:28 -0000 Jeff Spector wrote: > Thanks to all of you who responded. I am newbie to FreeBSD and UNIX so I > may be asking some silly questions. I will try to burn it again and > check the parameters. Perhaps I did not mount my cd to the /CDROM folder > correctly and that is why I can not ls the file. Thanks again You should use something like this: mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 01:22:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDC116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:22:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8D943D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:22:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j0F1MUIm078178; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:22:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Jeff MacDonald Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:22:36 -0500 Message-ID: <18qgu05rea94qe86qea4dsgj4f5fsq8785@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/625/Fri Dec 10 12:41:57 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on clamscanner1 X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups / Dump etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:22:32 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:00:26 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: > >I know that dump is the bees-knees for backing up, so I'm looking for >any pre-made scripts for doing scheduled incremental backups with >dump.. or articles about dump etc.. Yes, dump and restore are what you should look at. It probably will meet your needs. > >I've also been told that dump lacks network support and tho you can >use -f and ssh, it's very slow. Dump and pipe it through ssh via ssh key'd authentication or dump to an NFS mount. This is off the top of my head, so test first=20 e.g. you want to back up webserver1.example.org to backupserver1.example.org On the backup server,=20 pw useradd webserver1 -m su webserver1 cd ssh-keygen -d passwd webserver1 set the passwd to whatever you want On the webserver, su root ssh-keygen -d scp ~root/.ssh/id_dsa.pub webserver1@example.org:~webserver1/.ssh/authorized_keys2 ssh webserver1@backupserver1.example.org You should be able to get in without a password now and you can * out the passwd for webserver1 On the webserver, create the script below in /root/dump.sh #!/bin/sh - #this example script will dump the / partition to the backup server if [ -z $1 ] ; then echo "" echo "Usage: $0 " echo " See 'man dump' for more information." echo "" exit 255 fi DUMP_LEVEL=3D$1 /sbin/dump -${DUMP_LEVEL}anuf - / | /usr/bin/gzip -9c | /usr/bin/ssh -2 -c 3des webserver1@backupserver1.example.org dd of=3D~webserver1/dump-root-${DUMP_LEVEL}.gz /sbin/dump -${DUMP_LEVEL}anuf - /usr | /usr/bin/gzip -9c | /usr/bin/ssh -2 -c 3des webserver1@backupserver1.example.org dd of=3D~webserver1/dump-usr-${DUMP_LEVEL}.gz /sbin/dump -${DUMP_LEVEL}anuf - //sbin/dump -${DUMP_LEVEL}anuf - /usr | /usr/bin/gzip -9c | /usr/bin/ssh -2 -c 3des webserver1@backupserver1.example.org dd of=3D~webserver1/dump-usr-${DUMP_LEVEL}.gz | /usr/bin/gzip -9c | /usr/bin/ssh -2 -c 3des webserver1@backupserver1.example.org dd of=3D~webserver1/dump-var-${DUMP_LEVEL}.gz on the web server, something like the following crontab 4 4 * * 0 /root/dump.sh 0 4 4 * * 1 /root/dump.sh 1 4 4 * * 3 /root/dump.sh 2 4 4 * * 4 /root/dump.sh 3 4 4 * * 5 /root/dump.sh 4 4 4 * * 6 /root/dump.sh 5 4 4 * * 7 /root/dump.sh 6 WIll do a differential dump each day across the network with a level 0 dump (a full dump) once per week on Sunday morning. To do a full restore (assuming those are all your partitions) on the backup server, pop the new drive in. Firewire attached drives work quite well under FreeBSD Assuming these directories do not exists, mkdir /tmp/root mkdir /tmp/usr mkdir /tmp/var /stand/sysinstall fdisk the new drive and make sure you make it bootable. exit out (I think this is to work around a bug that I occasionally run into) /stand/sysinstall and run disklable and create the slices to match your new drive Create the mount points on something like /tmp/root, /tmp/usr and /tmp/var And newfs it.... cd /tmp/root zcat ~webuser1/dump-root-0.gz | restore -rf -=20 zcat ~webuser1/dump-root-1.gz | restore -rf -=20 ... zcat ~webuser1/dump-root-6.gz | restore -rf -=20 and so on... ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 01:29:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8075716A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:29:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA18343D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:29:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0F1Sxgj001368; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:29:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> References: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-743829983" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:29:25 -0600 To: Chuck Swiger X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:29:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-743829983 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 14, 2005, at 6:29 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Eric F Crist wrote: > [ ... ] >> What I need is a slightly different setup for my users. As I >> mentioned in an earlier email, I want to install an IMAP server. >> From what I've gleaned from various sources, I need to change from >> mbox format to maildir. Is this correct? > > No, there exist IMAP servers which work just fine with the classic > mbox format. Take a look at /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw in particular. > >> Also, I've come to the understanding that IMAP uses a totally >> different >> internal MTA, and thus a different user database? > > Many IMAP servers support external databases for holding users instead > of, or in addition to, the standard Unix user accounts. Some use SASL > (Cyrus), some use database access via MySQL or some such (Dovecot, > Courier, others?). > >> Can someone point me in the right direction? I've kinda got >> courier-imap installed from ports, but I can't log in. First off, >> how can I configure courier-imap to use the system accounts? If I >> can get this, I can probably work through the SSL/TLS for IMAP, >> amongst other things. > > If you're having configuration issues with Courier, drop back ten > yards and punt by trying the UW IMAP server. It has zero runtime > configuration options, so it basicly can't be misconfigured. (Well, > compile-time options can affect things, but the port will do the right > thing for FreeBSD.) > > On the positive side, UW IMAP was written by Mark Crispin, who was one > of the authors of the IMAP protocol. On the minus side, the security > history of the UW-IMAP software and the associated MUA pine is > somewhat grim-- perhaps best compared to the security woes of > sendmail. > > -- > -Chuck Chuck, Thanks a lot for that advice! I installed imap-uw, configured a couple things, and stuff just seems to work now! I'm still having some problems with imaps, but I can tweak that. I think I'm going to restrict imap to either the web interface, or via VPN only, so imaps does me little good at this point. Thanks a lot for your continued advice! _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=2EGUgOsmsmFyVSLszBmokteGMkUSBZT3s7HYu95/FAybxwHZvbdoyjcTktT69zgKQ4B0M+wkGE3MHFKT9BARGjqKFUN/dc+gM/nl9El4slfk4MQD0Tqqd/Y/AoR6njXSNM2gE7wONmGYmEwfPw1LrC08mtW5BhTLVwscYP3mgb0= ; Message-ID: <20050115015654.59684.qmail@web53807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.168.100.116] by web53807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:56:54 PST Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:56:54 -0800 (PST) From: Gregor Mosheh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: server replication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:56:56 -0000 After looking into the matter a bit more, my employer has decided that we don't need a true zero-downtime situation, that simply a "warm spare server" would be sufficient. Does anyone know of any packages, or have any scripts or other references, for doing this sort of thing? I guess the basic components would be: a network backup (scp as root?), and a script to ping the real server and change the rc.conf over to a second copy and reboot with the new one if the pings fail. I could write these myself, but I'm guessing someone wiser than myself has already done it... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 02:18:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB76316A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:18:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB18E43D5C for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:18:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0F2I5ia019144; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:18:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> References: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-746775868" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:18:31 -0600 To: Chuck Swiger X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:18:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-746775868 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 14, 2005, at 6:29 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Eric F Crist wrote: > [ ... ] >> What I need is a slightly different setup for my users. As I >> mentioned in an earlier email, I want to install an IMAP server. >> From what I've gleaned from various sources, I need to change from >> mbox format to maildir. Is this correct? > > No, there exist IMAP servers which work just fine with the classic > mbox format. Take a look at /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw in particular. > >> Also, I've come to the understanding that IMAP uses a totally >> different >> internal MTA, and thus a different user database? > > Many IMAP servers support external databases for holding users instead > of, or in addition to, the standard Unix user accounts. Some use SASL > (Cyrus), some use database access via MySQL or some such (Dovecot, > Courier, others?). > >> Can someone point me in the right direction? I've kinda got >> courier-imap installed from ports, but I can't log in. First off, >> how can I configure courier-imap to use the system accounts? If I >> can get this, I can probably work through the SSL/TLS for IMAP, >> amongst other things. > > If you're having configuration issues with Courier, drop back ten > yards and punt by trying the UW IMAP server. It has zero runtime > configuration options, so it basicly can't be misconfigured. (Well, > compile-time options can affect things, but the port will do the right > thing for FreeBSD.) > > On the positive side, UW IMAP was written by Mark Crispin, who was one > of the authors of the IMAP protocol. On the minus side, the security > history of the UW-IMAP software and the associated MUA pine is > somewhat grim-- perhaps best compared to the security woes of > sendmail. > > -- > -Chuck Here's my final question: SquirrelMail config. I've got egroupware working flawlessly with IMAP-UW. I use my standard unix user/pass for mail retrieval. In SquirrelMail, I get an invalid user/pass error? What am I missing? Thanks. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-746775868 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHofXcACgkQRAAY9knOW+o2UACfXjP4QYlzDsocTvfR4rIP8euo uoQAnAy6M3Oyffa8DNLSGa4Q149kVaxt =WtPA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-746775868-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 02:32:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB93316A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:32:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832D543D41 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:32:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:10095 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpdje-000Jpv-HT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:32:18 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB951A9A7 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:32:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (ip54513cd0.direct-adsl.nl [84.81.60.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCC43700E for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:32:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E880A9.7010909@scii.nl> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:32:09 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:32:20 -0000 Eric F Crist wrote: > Here's my final question: SquirrelMail config. I've got egroupware > working flawlessly with IMAP-UW. I use my standard unix user/pass for > mail retrieval. In SquirrelMail, I get an invalid user/pass error? > What am I missing? afair squirrelmail depends on Maildir-format mailboxes if you really want to use the UW-imap (i don't, i'm happily using courier-imap and squirrelmail since years), then try a webmail solution that works with mbox-format, i think neomail and openwebmail are some alternatives From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 02:52:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA24316A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:52:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5F243D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:52:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0F2pgPw022108; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:51:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E880A9.7010909@scii.nl> References: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> <41E880A9.7010909@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-748792810" Message-Id: <72218405-66A0-11D9-8A15-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:52:07 -0600 To: albi X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:52:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3-748792810 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 14, 2005, at 8:32 PM, albi wrote: > Eric F Crist wrote: > >> Here's my final question: SquirrelMail config. I've got egroupware >> working flawlessly with IMAP-UW. I use my standard unix user/pass >> for mail retrieval. In SquirrelMail, I get an invalid user/pass >> error? What am I missing? > > afair squirrelmail depends on Maildir-format mailboxes > > if you really want to use the UW-imap (i don't, i'm happily using > courier-imap and squirrelmail since years), then try a webmail solution > that works with mbox-format, i think neomail and openwebmail are some > alternatives Actually, I believe squirrelmail just depends on an imap server. I don't think it cares what (imap-uw is supported). My issue resides with the plain-text password issue. As per instructions, I've recompiled imap-uw to allow plain-text, or so I thought, and I still get the errors. I followed these instructions: http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/en_US/UWLoginDisabled and I'm concerned with these messages in /var/log/auth.log: Jan 14 20:15:20 grog imapd[19134]: Login disabled user=user auth=user host=localhost [127.0.0.1] Jan 14 20:27:32 grog imapd[19343]: Login disabled user=user auth=user host=ipaddress Jan 14 20:27:59 grog last message repeated 2 times Jan 14 20:28:07 grog imapd[19343]: Login excessive login failures user=user auth=user host=ipaddress Jan 14 20:37:39 grog imapd[20580]: Login disabled user=user auth=user host=ipaddress Jan 14 20:37:58 grog last message repeated 2 times Jan 14 20:38:50 grog imapd[20582]: Login disabled user=user auth=user host=localhost [127.0.0.1] Jan 14 20:39:51 grog imapd[20580]: Login excessive login failures user=user auth=user host=ipaddress Jan 14 20:40:33 grog imapd[21474]: Login disabled user=user auth=user host=localhost [127.0.0.1] Jan 14 20:43:02 grog imapd[21929]: Login disabled user=user auth=user host=localhost [127.0.0.1] _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-3-748792810 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHohVgACgkQRAAY9knOW+pJMgCfUIkO5ArLSijPWHo84IgcWPhY rJwAniWih/z4xAUY5sRKwNJX3Er/dbXK =EKDv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-3-748792810-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 03:32:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D9216A556 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:32:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEDE43D55 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:32:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgnezdov@pobox.com) X-Sasl-enc: oPW5ImEoxEgwnO8ES5eNMQ 1105759950 Received: from localhost.localdomain (207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net [207.224.118.87]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677E0C4DD16 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:32:30 -0500 (EST) From: Sergei Gnezdov To: Questions FreeBSD Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-oD/Uz1zzauRix6DqrXdk" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:34:43 -0800 Message-Id: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:32:34 -0000 --=-oD/Uz1zzauRix6DqrXdk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, The computer of my friend has the following specs: Motherboard: Asus A7V8x-x, chipset VIA-KT400,=20 with onboard sound, LAN, ATA133, USB Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce4 MX440SE with TV-out Modem: acorp-56K Printer: OKI okipage 6w Scanner: mustec1200CP So, what is supported and what is not supported by FreeBSD in his case? Thank you --=-oD/Uz1zzauRix6DqrXdk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB6I9TLG0a64EQke4RAvkQAKDJ9zj6WueIgpLHtRozWAtRd9I0FwCg2I0e PlzRq064Yol7rDMlBTj4gdo= =284B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-oD/Uz1zzauRix6DqrXdk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 03:43:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E24716A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:43:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06F343D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:43:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE1F6130; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:43:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91717-09; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:43:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8A46129; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:43:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E89167.1080602@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:43:35 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergei Gnezdov References: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> In-Reply-To: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:43:39 -0000 Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > Hi, > > The computer of my friend has the following specs: > > Motherboard: Asus A7V8x-x, chipset VIA-KT400, > with onboard sound, LAN, ATA133, USB > Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce4 MX440SE with TV-out > Modem: acorp-56K > Printer: OKI okipage 6w > Scanner: mustec1200CP > > So, what is supported and what is not supported by FreeBSD in his case? > > > Thank you I think most of your questions will be answered on the FreeBSD website under "Hardware Notes"... Have "your friend" research it. -- Best regards, Chris 1) You can't win 2) You can't break even 3) You can't even quit the game From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 03:47:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3335A16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:47:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F5543D39 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:47:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgnezdov@pobox.com) X-Sasl-enc: 6rIHBCBk1s0MjLtWEdOwGg 1105760869 Received: from localhost.localdomain (207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net [207.224.118.87]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8946FC4BF45 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:47:49 -0500 (EST) From: Sergei Gnezdov To: Questions FreeBSD Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8UDycRIYGez+bys4Yn6i" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:50:03 -0800 Message-Id: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:47:52 -0000 --=-8UDycRIYGez+bys4Yn6i Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you know of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? I might be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I know about the options: Alternatives for: - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates images. - WinRAR and WinZIP - WinAMP - Virtual CD - Some kind of CD Burner - Some DVD Player - AC3filter - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) --=-8UDycRIYGez+bys4Yn6i Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB6JLrLG0a64EQke4RArqqAJ9KDM9V0gokoPx9KnacQbPHZ2WTbQCgqv6X EcMll5PGTIBun1FllYtm0k4= =tIt2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8UDycRIYGez+bys4Yn6i-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 03:51:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85FF16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:51:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2149043D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:51:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8692F6130; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:51:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92242-01; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:51:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385DA6129; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:51:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E89329.8080905@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:51:05 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergei Gnezdov References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> In-Reply-To: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:51:11 -0000 Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > Hi, > > I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you know > of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? I might > be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I > know about the options: > > Alternatives for: > > - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. > - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates > images. > - WinRAR and WinZIP > - WinAMP > - Virtual CD > - Some kind of CD Burner > - Some DVD Player > - AC3filter > - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) > Again, these can be found on the website - http://www.freebsd.org/applications.html... And again, have "your friend" research it on his own. -- Best regards, Chris 1) You can't win 2) You can't break even 3) You can't even quit the game From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 03:52:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326C816A4F8 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:52:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D8843D49 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:52:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0F3qNRZ029095; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:52:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0F3qN9v061554; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:52:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0F3qNPu061553; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:52:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:52:23 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> Message-ID: <20050115035222.GA61513@polands.org> References: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> <200501130951.17307.4711@chello.at> <20050114194303.GB61113@omniresources.com> <200501150012.42358.4711@chello.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501150012.42358.4711@chello.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 (SOLVED) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:52:29 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 12:12:28AM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2005 20:43, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size > > \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -B -f- > > -i /dev/ad4 > > > > That command returned: "improperly placed quotes ()". I set the value > > of $size manually but it was some small number like 50000. I wrote it > > to ad4 but the command on line 33 puked. So I simply issued the command > > shown on line 32. > > I ever handled this by sysinstall. The above commands simply sets up the first > slice (1) to a FreeBSD-type slice (165) starting at offset (63) with length > ($size) of the first slice of ad6 and sets the active flag on the first slice > (1). > > The command 'fdisk ad6' shows the size of the slice(s) on ad6. The same length > should be used for ad4. I tried to run the above commands under /bin/sh: > > # size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size > \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` > > # (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") > p 1 165 63 240107427 > a 1 > > # (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -t -B -f -i mirror/mirror0 > ******* Working on device /dev/mirror/mirror0 ******* > > So all the commands seem to work properly. Did you run this under /bin/sh? > Yes, I tried it under both tcsh and sh. I didn't take it apart the same way you did however. Also, when size came up as 50000 (24MB) I knew something wasn't write and didn't pursue that further. What did the command: fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 do? It would seem my mirror is correct and consistent. > > Question: On line 27 we issue the command to... > > # instruct boot stage 2 loader on first disk to boot > > # with the boot stage 3 loader from the second disk > > # (mainly because BIOS might not allow easy booting from second ATA disk > > # or at least requires manual intervention on the console) > > > > So how do I get rid of that boot.config file? Should I get rid of it? > > If you have a modern machine the BIOS (hopefully) can boot from every > harddisks that has a partition/slice on it with the active flag set. I for > myself use a bootmanager on every gmirror disk. You can install it with > boot0cfg(8) or sysinstall (I only would use boot0cfg, if your mirror already > has been set up). > So I can safely remove /boot.config? Otherwise wouldn't the boot stage 2 loader always then load boot stage 3 off disk 2? > > Question: On line 25 we set swapoff=YES. Is this necessary if I'm going > > to run 5-STABLE? What are the implications of having swap on a mirror > > like this? > > No, if you run stable you don't need this: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-all/2005-January/099589.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-all/2005-January/099590.html > > On 5-STABLE systems, younger than the cvsdate of the above commits, > the /etc/rc.d/swap1 script runs on system shutdown and ensures that > (eventually mirrored) swap devices are stopped before gmirror shuts down. > Otherwise the mirror will brake. This is the reason why you need to set > swapoff=YES. The recommend method to reboot your gmirrored system is > 'shutdown -r now' instead of 'reboot'. > Great, thanks for all your help. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 03:54:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B186F16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:54:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B34643D49 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:54:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (adsl-69-211-82-66.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.211.82.66]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3116A17D014 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:54:49 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions From: Timothy Luoma Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:54:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Speed up dialin connection via proxy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:54:53 -0000 I cannot get high speed internet access at home. In fact, I can't get more than about 26400 on my dialup. My dialup is my FreeBSD machine (5.3). I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would speed downloads up any. If so, what would be a good proxy to use? Anything else I could do to speed things up? TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 03:58:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9685C16A4F4 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:58:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F63B43D48 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:58:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C39B6130; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:58:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92242-03; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:58:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A41F60EA; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:58:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41E894F7.5000700@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:58:47 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Timothy Luoma References: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> In-Reply-To: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:58:51 -0000 Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I cannot get high speed internet access at home. In fact, I can't get > more than about 26400 on my dialup. That sux > My dialup is my FreeBSD machine (5.3). > > I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would > speed downloads up any. If so, what would be a good proxy to use? No - you are at the mercy of the modem. > Anything else I could do to speed things up? ISDN? Direct TV? Cable? DSL? -- Best regards, Chris Envelopes and stamps which don't stick when you lick them will stick to other things when you don't want them to. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 03:59:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF80A16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:59:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8640943D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:59:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgnezdov@pobox.com) X-Sasl-enc: ppzR+1VmfJWpmt792xg2gA 1105761552 Received: from localhost.localdomain (207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net [207.224.118.87]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFD3C4E46B; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:59:11 -0500 (EST) From: Sergei Gnezdov To: Chris In-Reply-To: <41E89167.1080602@makeworld.com> References: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> <41E89167.1080602@makeworld.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-aSc/bYDeDkFBRDIH0Dmw" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:01:25 -0800 Message-Id: <1105761685.669.21.camel@owl2> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:59:15 -0000 --=-aSc/bYDeDkFBRDIH0Dmw Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I think most of your questions will be answered on the FreeBSD website=20 > under "Hardware Notes"... Have "your friend" research it. I would not ask if I could find the answers in "Hardware Notes". For example, onboard sound is known to be tricky. --=-aSc/bYDeDkFBRDIH0Dmw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB6JWVLG0a64EQke4RAhwUAKDHHVSuymzBZoUD8wm0bm2JqesgXQCfflzd ZVHJ0QGYIK0eqWpQZ/0uTo8= =j3yR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-aSc/bYDeDkFBRDIH0Dmw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 04:01:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE01F16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:01:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930C943D48 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:01:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgnezdov@pobox.com) X-Sasl-enc: ep4SrniPndLW7p4qT7HIqA 1105761710 Received: from localhost.localdomain (207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net [207.224.118.87]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5808FC4E729; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:01:50 -0500 (EST) From: Sergei Gnezdov To: Chris In-Reply-To: <41E89329.8080905@makeworld.com> References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> <41E89329.8080905@makeworld.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xw3mt8ULCygCQSw6xSK/" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:04:04 -0800 Message-Id: <1105761844.669.24.camel@owl2> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:01:53 -0000 --=-xw3mt8ULCygCQSw6xSK/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Again, these can be found on the website - > http://www.freebsd.org/applications.html... And again, have "your=20 > friend" research it on his own. Right. Not everybody knows English and not everybody has unlimited Internet connection. And by the way, lots of free software is for geeks only. I have FreeBSD already and I can't spend 1 month installing each app just to figure out which one is the best. --=-xw3mt8ULCygCQSw6xSK/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB6JY0LG0a64EQke4RAsONAJ4sY3IO6ke1LbP3E5kNKSQbI5mXvwCglrLW WKIzvYpdT8o9kp/J4k71nvc= =fZnM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xw3mt8ULCygCQSw6xSK/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 04:05:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADD816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:05:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A1043D48 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:05:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j0F453k0027417; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:05:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:05:03 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Timothy Luoma Message-ID: <20050115040502.GA70887@dan.emsphone.com> References: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:05:04 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 14), Timothy Luoma said: > I cannot get high speed internet access at home. In fact, I can't > get more than about 26400 on my dialup. > > My dialup is my FreeBSD machine (5.3). > > I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would > speed downloads up any. If so, what would be a good proxy to use? A local proxy won't help you any more than simply cranking up your browser cache. > Anything else I could do to speed things up? If you have access to a faster machine at the other end of your dialup link, you can run something like Rabbit ( http:/rabbit-proxy.sourceforge.net ), which will compress your images and web pages before sending them to you and your slow link. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 04:07:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BE116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:07:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from longbow.arroway.com (peppercornbooks.com [66.252.129.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85AF643D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:07:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: (qmail 21057 invoked by uid 1007); 15 Jan 2005 04:07:02 -0000 Received: from stormspotter@6Texans.net by longbow by uid 1004 with qmail-scanner-1.22-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(64.109.19.173):. Processed in 0.320471 secs); 15 Jan 2005 04:07:02 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-109-19-173.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net (HELO jacob.6texans.net) (64.109.19.173) by longbow.arroway.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 04:07:02 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:09:19 -0600 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050114220919.05083e71@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <1105761685.669.21.camel@owl2> References: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> <41E89167.1080602@makeworld.com> <1105761685.669.21.camel@owl2> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:07:06 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:01:25 -0800 Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > > I think most of your questions will be answered on the FreeBSD > > website under "Hardware Notes"... Have "your friend" research it. > > I would not ask if I could find the answers in "Hardware Notes". For > example, onboard sound is known to be tricky. You might try FreesBIE as an easy(er) way to test which pieces of his hardware will work in FreeBSD. http://www.freesbie.org/ HTH, Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 04:12:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B74916A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:12:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79F543D31 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:12:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0F4BvM13066; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:11:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:11:57 -0600 From: John To: Timothy Luoma Message-ID: <20050114221157.A13032@starfire.mn.org> References: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com>; from lists@tntluoma.com on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:54:23PM -0500 cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:12:01 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:54:23PM -0500, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I cannot get high speed internet access at home. In fact, I can't get > more than about 26400 on my dialup. > > My dialup is my FreeBSD machine (5.3). > > I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would > speed downloads up any. If so, what would be a good proxy to use? A proxy can help only if you have a situation where you expect local machines to each load the same pages - then the proxy can cache and serve them on your local network rather than going back across your outside link. It won't do anything to help the original fetch of the information, unfortunately. > Anything else I could do to speed things up? Modern modems are already doing some pretty sophisticated compression techniques. They do all sorts of things to try to get as much across the line as possible. They actually transfer data in synchronous blocks to "skip over" the start and stop bits and then reconstitute the asynchronous stream on the serial port side. About all you can do is to find anything within your control that is reducing the quality of the signal your modem can see (make sure that all your wiring from the point of demarcation is new, solid, and away from noise sources - like, not wrapped around flourescent light fixture and things). Other than that, I can't think of anything... > TjL -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 04:23:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5AB16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:23:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D370343D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:23:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so35709rne for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:23:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id; b=g+xzAMJa8o0AvcOTBEUtlPLJqCiYrvYgReqRMxNTXyA0gOthr3e5E32tVgSADZu75fR6lwfrOGn5oqEDfQVFSWZjIHeX0liKFAkVtRFDR/ijAqbVbH5G4d/XMWsl6gD4BjslJwuPiTipJk5xfOUD0e0IDU3CZiaeUIRsPsSmJPw= Received: by 10.38.207.12 with SMTP id e12mr524470rng; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:23:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from Firebox ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 59sm1664rnb.2005.01.14.19.23.08; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:23:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Abel_Coca_Mar=EDn'?= , Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:52:54 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C4FADF.99A2F0A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <41E86562.6090001@yahoo.es> Thread-Index: AcT6mkma/XX5SH8mT56FCiU5li3m/gAFvxQg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: <41e88c9f.55cc2c38.20ee.0015@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: RE: USB2.0 support for Intel ICH5 chipset? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:23:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C4FADF.99A2F0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Abel Coca Mar=EDn > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:06 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: USB2.0 support for Intel ICH5 chipset? >=20 > Hello Kelsey: >=20 > I also have an Asus P4P8x motherboard. What can I do for using USB 2.0 > under Windows xp ? Well, unfortunately we do not support Wind0ze, cause M$ takes your hard earned oney for providing that. For using USB 2.0 in FBSD, you need to recompile the kernel with Device ehci Regards, S. 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pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:23:17 -0000 Eric F Crist wrote: > Actually, I believe squirrelmail just depends on an imap server. I > don't think it cares what (imap-uw is supported). My issue resides with > the plain-text password issue. As per instructions, I've recompiled > imap-uw to allow plain-text, or so I thought, and I still get the > errors. Did you also recompile the c-client library which UW-IMAP depends on with the ENABLE_PLAINTEXT_LOGINS_WHICHAMACALLIT_VARIABLE set? :-) Also, I believe you can configure UW-IMAP to support Maildir format, as well, if that is your preference, or if squirrelmail would be happier. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 04:26:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5994516A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:26:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51503.mail.yahoo.com (web51503.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 845EE43D41 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:25:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19026 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2005 04:25:59 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=I4McJAT2YNsw+g6Rd1QtwU+m5GIvdJG002QqD+ZTUa0clBp4iVhWlwEBail+P+sQgavIFN4Eh9VuhVzpsBjjXbfVhJ8/87sJl0TWMog0ANPchQantWitfqrBEGgFpqjZjhDqQxyFWe7mDNGvBtOUvVz/qog7l072NfyG/+e8o3w= ; Message-ID: <20050115042558.19023.qmail@web51503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.182.113] by web51503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:25:58 PST Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:25:58 -0800 (PST) From: fbsd2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: hugin-0.4.r1 make fails on 4.11-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:26:00 -0000 Hi all, This is on a fresh install/cvsup to 4-STABLE, ports cvsuped, etc. Any suggestions? Alex ---------------------------- pkg_add -r XFree86 pkg_add -r kde cd /usr/ports/graphics/hugin make ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on executable: PTOptimizer - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on executable: vigra-config - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on executable: imake - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on shared library: tiff - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on shared library: png - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on shared library: jpeg - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on shared library: fftw - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on shared library: wx_gtk2 - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on shared library: wx_gtk2_xrc - found ===> hugin-0.4.r1 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found ===> Configuring for hugin-0.4.r1 checking for wxwin32 2.4 or greater: found Use of uninitialized value at ./configure line 67. checking for xrc extension of wxwin. Found external vigra library, version 1.2.0 Configuration summary for hugin: platform: unix prefix: /usr/local debug: disabled Creating src/makefiles/config.mk Creating src/include/hugin/config.h Creating src/PanoImage/makefile Creating src/hugin/hugin.desktop Configuration finished. Run "make" to compile hugin. After compilation use "make install" to install hugin into the system imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config imake: No such file or directory imake: No description file. Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/hugin. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 04:28:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697C916A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:28:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62C343D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:28:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0F4SbIE041405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:28:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E89BC1.7060605@mac.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:27:45 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Timothy Luoma References: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> In-Reply-To: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:28:44 -0000 Timothy Luoma wrote: [ ... ] > I am wondering if I setup a proxy on the FreeBSD machine, if it would > speed downloads up any. If so, what would be a good proxy to use? > > Anything else I could do to speed things up? Squid is a good proxy, and it can be smarter about caching and using If-Modified-Since refresh queries to check data, but it is not going to give a magical improvement over a browser's cache. It might also help somewhat to run a caching-only nameserver on your host and forward all queries to your ISP's nameservers. Disable image autoload in your browser, and/or block .swf. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 04:39:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC6B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:39:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.networkiv.net (mx.networkiv.net [65.205.143.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1207A43D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:39:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slm@networkiv.net) Received: by mx.networkiv.net (Postfix, from userid 5225) id 188C1A1137; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:39:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:39:04 -0500 From: "Stephen L. Martin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050115043904.GA63170@mx.networkiv.net> References: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> <41E89167.1080602@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E89167.1080602@makeworld.com> Subject: Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:39:25 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:43:35PM -0600, Chris wrote: >Hi, > >The computer of my friend has the following specs: > >Motherboard: Asus A7V8x-x, chipset VIA-KT400, > with onboard sound, LAN, ATA133, USB >Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce4 MX440SE with TV-out >Modem: acorp-56K >Printer: OKI okipage 6w >Scanner: mustec1200CP > >So, what is supported and what is not supported by FreeBSD in his case? > > >Thank you I have an A7V880 and everything works fine, except the sound (even the SATA RAID). There was a thread a while back on hackers on getting it to work. I haven't tried it, because I don't need sound, but here's the thread if you want to give it a shot: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2004-December/009639.html I also have the MX440 SE running in dual head configuration and it works fine. -Stephen -- "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room." - Merkin Muffley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:04:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADB116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:04:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6E243D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0F53nDZ003953; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:03:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E89A7D.9000104@mac.com> References: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> <41E880A9.7010909@scii.nl> <72218405-66A0-11D9-8A15-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <41E89A7D.9000104@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-756720296" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:04:15 -0600 To: Chuck Swiger X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:04:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-756720296 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 14, 2005, at 10:22 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Eric F Crist wrote: >> Actually, I believe squirrelmail just depends on an imap server. I >> don't think it cares what (imap-uw is supported). My issue resides >> with the plain-text password issue. As per instructions, I've >> recompiled imap-uw to allow plain-text, or so I thought, and I still >> get the errors. > > Did you also recompile the c-client library which UW-IMAP depends on > with the ENABLE_PLAINTEXT_LOGINS_WHICHAMACALLIT_VARIABLE set? :-) > > Also, I believe you can configure UW-IMAP to support Maildir format, > as well, if that is your preference, or if squirrelmail would be > happier. > > -- > -Chuck I've now removed both imap-uw and cclient, and reinstalled with the following command: grog# env WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=YES make reinstall This did mention in the process that I was 'installing with ssl but also with plaintext passwords enabled, which doesn't conform to some acronyms' protest' any ideas? TIA _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-756720296 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHopE8ACgkQRAAY9knOW+qm6QCfbR4Ku9s2bnNa5KzZS6wCT/je r1EAn23qr7M3MK+hRcuRTu909aBWXSZd =ISK8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-756720296-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:05:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D445316A4D2 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:05:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449F543D53 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:05:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D66C512D1; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:05:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:05:05 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <20050115050505.GA84051@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:05:17 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 07:16:33PM -0500, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/14/05 6:47:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > kris@obsecurity.org writes: > >> I know how linux, windows, openbsd and every other major open > >> source project works, and I know how FreeBSD > >> used to work. I don't know of any other "open source" project > >> that abandons its best version to spend 2 years working on=20 > >> a re-write. > >> > >Me either, including FreeBSD. > ----- > Ah, so if you are in complete and total denial of "reality", how > can you claim that other don't understand it? All > of the above has been proven, so why don't you think it=20 > applies to FreeBSD? Speak. I smirk at your "proven" claims. I point at you and laugh at your strident "proof" that FreeBSD 4.x doesn't support a particular chipset, in the face of reports that it does, in fact, support the chipset (earlier mails that you pretended not to see). Welcome back to my killfile (although I doubt you'll stay there long because of your desperate need to hear your own voice). Kris --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6KSBWry0BWjoQKURAi/yAJ0Vq9Zv70iqcWmfqYSK4QvRYgsQ4QCg+6pI /0VEKiLmrz7OOIat3huU79A= =d4pr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:14:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358D916A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:14:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B20343D1F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11832856ED; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:44:52 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:44:52 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <20050115051452.GQ55001@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <67.3c455a91.2f19b183@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lHNupHuuosULgVTo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <67.3c455a91.2f19b183@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:14:56 -0000 --lHNupHuuosULgVTo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 14 January 2005 at 18:36:35 -0500, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: Do you have a name? > In a message dated 1/14/05 5:56:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, kris@obsecurity.org writes: >>> Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x when you >>> admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. >> >> Jamie, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about how the >> FreeBSD community works. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can >> be explained to someone like you, because you have your own fixed >> ideas about how you think the world works and are not willing to >> listen to any explanations of how reality differs. > > I know how linux, windows, openbsd and every other major open > source project works, Hmm. I know the term "windows" is ambiguous, but in the past I've always seen it used to refer to Microsoft "Windows". What open source project is called "windows"? > and I know how FreeBSD used to work. I don't know of any other "open > source" project that abandons its best version to spend 2 years > working on a re-write. I dont know of any other project that works > like that. Agreed, Neither do I. Which project are you talking about? > How about a list of projects with an installed base similar to > FreeBSD that "works" like that? I don't think there are any. That's too far from where FreeBSD is. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --lHNupHuuosULgVTo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6KbMIubykFB6QiMRAuXFAJ9H8JjkcljuXq3bSw5ysAtZ/i+rDQCeNikK qN8ObDEKariN0q0R5UrAzP4= =rqhZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lHNupHuuosULgVTo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:29:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8542A16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:29:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B52E43D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:29:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0F5T0Nr004519; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:29:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <20050115050505.GA84051@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050115050505.GA84051@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-4-758230541" Message-Id: <6B74E783-66B6-11D9-88BB-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:29:25 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Freebsd0101@aol.com Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:29:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4-758230541 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Welcome back to my killfile (although I doubt you'll stay there long > because of your desperate need to hear your own voice). > > Kris Now, I understand his/her/it's words are harsh, but is killing them really a fair alternative? Well, I guess I can see your point. ::grabs pitchfork:: I'm about ready to just deny all AOL connections. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-4-758230541 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHoqjUACgkQRAAY9knOW+pT2gCfSJV9LcMmrpigG1LgTDssxUBq pykAn1IHFL/pROmYXM7bKjBjv8CUdzsr =3aEA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-4-758230541-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:32:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020AE16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:32:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8ABB43D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:32:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (adsl-69-211-82-66.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.211.82.66]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F177717D014 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:31:56 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions From: Timothy Luoma Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:31:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: make "make" quieter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:32:04 -0000 Maybe I'm Googling the wrong terms, but I'm trying to find a way to make 'make' less chatty during 'make install clean' (at least the 'make' part, I'd like to see the install stuff if possible... if not, I'd rather not.) There seem to be a lot of merely information stuff that comes by. I didn't see anything in make.conf that might be a quiet/verbose switch. So far I've just been doing this: (make install clean 2>&1) > install.log The only problem is that it won't work with 'sudo' (can't use ">" with sudo) so I have to login as root. TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:35:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0874316A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:35:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E5B43D39 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:35:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:36:10 -0600 Message-ID: <41E8ABB9.7000205@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:35:53 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergei Gnezdov References: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> In-Reply-To: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2005 05:36:10.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EB5C720:01C4FAC4] cc: Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:35:59 -0000 Sergei Gnezdov wrote: >Hi, > >The computer of my friend has the following specs: > >Motherboard: Asus A7V8x-x, chipset VIA-KT400, > with onboard sound, LAN, ATA133, USB > > Doubt that's much of an issue. And, in regard to your assertation about sound, I've never had much trouble with sound and FreeBSD, regardless of the card or onboard chipset, except for a few cards that weren't listed as supported on the web site. YMMV. >Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce4 MX440SE with TV-out > > I've used Nvidia (nv driver) with X, but not tried TV-out as my cards don't have it. Not sure about this issue. >Modem: acorp-56K > > Old rule was "software modems don't work in FBSD." An exception might be if it uses the Lucent LT chip, a port exists (/usr/ports/comms/ltmdm) that is supposed to allow use of these modems. >Printer: OKI okipage 6w > > Check linuxprinting.org, for one site. Perhaps also the documentation for apsfilter (apsfilter.org), which seems to me to be a good solutions for lots of printing issues.... >Scanner: mustec1200CP > > Possibly an issue. You'd need to decide what software you intend to use, and check the site for that, I think. SANE is the software of choice, I gather (could be wrong). Last I recall looking at their site, there *might* have been support for Mustek, but I wasn't too hopeful for the scanners I have "in the pile." I can't remember, but I think one was a Mustek. YMMV. >So, what is supported and what is not supported by FreeBSD in his case? > > >Thank you > > As mentioned, there is a hardware compatibility list on the Project's site. I would also suggest reading through the handbook, looking for pages at Google (how-tos, etc), and scanning the archives of the various mailing lists. Good luck! Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:38:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065A916A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:38:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29FA43D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:38:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4DB351506; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:38:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:38:14 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Timothy Luoma Message-ID: <20050115053814.GA99918@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: make "make" quieter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:38:16 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 12:31:30AM -0500, Timothy Luoma wrote: >=20 > Maybe I'm Googling the wrong terms, but I'm trying to find a way to=20 > make 'make' less chatty during 'make install clean' (at least the=20 > 'make' part, I'd like to see the install stuff if possible... if not,=20 > I'd rather not.) >=20 > There seem to be a lot of merely information stuff that comes by. I=20 > didn't see anything in make.conf that might be a quiet/verbose switch. make -s should work, although I've not tried it with ports. > So far I've just been doing this: >=20 > (make install clean 2>&1) > install.log > The only problem is that it won't work with 'sudo' (can't use ">" with=20 > sudo) so I have to login as root. You surely can use '>' with sudo. Perhaps you're not quoting the command properly, so you're actually redirecting the sudo output to a file to which the non-superuser does not have write access? sudo sh -c "ls > /foo" works as expected sudo ls > /tmp/foo works too, since /tmp is writable. Kris --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6KxGWry0BWjoQKURAvG7AKD2AxYYnHWUDJuhw0px8ctxvh+r7wCfdOyT KyH0H/YUW5peCeoketDGdnY= =AA2J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:39:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4CA16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:39:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAB643D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0F5cvkD004745; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:38:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-5-758828259" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:39:23 -0600 To: Timothy Luoma X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: make "make" quieter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:39:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail-5-758828259 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Maybe I'm Googling the wrong terms, but I'm trying to find a way to > make 'make' less chatty during 'make install clean' (at least the > 'make' part, I'd like to see the install stuff if possible... if not, > I'd rather not.) > > There seem to be a lot of merely information stuff that comes by. I > didn't see anything in make.conf that might be a quiet/verbose switch. > > So far I've just been doing this: > > (make install clean 2>&1) > install.log > > The only problem is that it won't work with 'sudo' (can't use ">" with > sudo) so I have to login as root. > > TjL Have you tried: % sudo "make install clean > install.log" -or- % sudo "make install clean > /dev/null" HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-5-758828259 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHorIsACgkQRAAY9knOW+r2PACggDxFl07Nwlxt2Dc3XTCok6KM KIEAn0ViF9HLOdMcO1eUQ8CaWmtycKi3 =g2Sv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-5-758828259-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:52:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AF416A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:52:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032AF43D4C for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:52:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (adsl-69-211-82-66.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.211.82.66]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882E117D02C; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:52:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20050115040502.GA70887@dan.emsphone.com> References: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <20050115040502.GA70887@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:52:25 -0500 To: Chuck Swiger , Dan Nelson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:52:56 -0000 [two replies in one] On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > A local proxy won't help you any more than simply cranking up your > browser cache. rats. I was thinking that if it was coming from one traceroute hop away would be faster than from however many hops the other sites would be. Cache is fully tweaked (I use Opera on the Mac, which has really good cache settings). >> Anything else I could do to speed things up? > > If you have access to a faster machine at the other end of your dialup > link, you can run something like Rabbit ( > http:/rabbit-proxy.sourceforge.net ), which will compress your images > and web pages before sending them to you and your slow link. Ah, now that's a thought. (My old ISP wanted $5/month for that :-) Unfortunately I don't see a port and 'make' failed rather unspectacularly $ make Error expanding embedded variable. and Google was no help :-/ On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:27 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > It might also help somewhat to run a caching-only nameserver on your > host and forward all queries to your ISP's nameservers. That's an idea, although it's thinking above my pay scale at this point. > Disable image autoload in your browser, and/or block .swf. Done and done (also easy with Opera). Thanks TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 06:15:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C29316A4CE; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:15:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC48643D1D; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:15:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050115061502i9200isdbke>; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:15:03 +0000 Message-ID: <41E8B4E4.4000801@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:15:00 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey References: <67.3c455a91.2f19b183@aol.com> <20050115051452.GQ55001@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20050115051452.GQ55001@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Freebsd0101@aol.com Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:15:04 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >On Friday, 14 January 2005 at 18:36:35 -0500, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > >Do you have a name? > > > >>In a message dated 1/14/05 5:56:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, kris@obsecurity.org writes: >> >> >>>>Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x when you >>>>admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. >>>> >>>> >>>Jamie, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about how the >>>FreeBSD community works. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can >>>be explained to someone like you, because you have your own fixed >>>ideas about how you think the world works and are not willing to >>>listen to any explanations of how reality differs. >>> >>> >>I know how linux, windows, openbsd and every other major open >>source project works, >> >> > >Hmm. I know the term "windows" is ambiguous, but in the past I've >always seen it used to refer to Microsoft "Windows". What open source >project is called "windows"? > > I see open source when I look out my windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 06:25:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEEC16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:25:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5C543D55 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:25:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050115062521i9200ism9te>; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:25:22 +0000 Message-ID: <41E8B74F.6060402@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:25:19 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric F Crist References: <20050115050505.GA84051@xor.obsecurity.org> <6B74E783-66B6-11D9-88BB-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> In-Reply-To: <6B74E783-66B6-11D9-88BB-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Freebsd0101@aol.com cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:25:23 -0000 Eric F Crist wrote: > On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> Welcome back to my killfile (although I doubt you'll stay there long >> because of your desperate need to hear your own voice). >> >> Kris > > > Now, I understand his/her/it's words are harsh, but is killing them > really a fair alternative? Well, I guess I can see your point. > ::grabs pitchfork:: > > I'm about ready to just deny all AOL connections. > I'm sure someone here works for AOL. I sure that once they get his paper work sorted out they'll enable his account again, accidents do happen yea know, were only human. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 06:55:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5E416A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:55:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B07143D1F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:55:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (adsl-69-211-82-66.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.211.82.66]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9979417D02C; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:55:32 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <200501150605.j0F65Ket011697@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200501150605.j0F65Ket011697@mp.cs.niu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <65F6863C-66C2-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:55:10 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions , Scott Bennett X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: make "make" quieter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:55:40 -0000 On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: > You've tried "-s"? And that was still too chatty? -s looks promising (d'oh, checked make.conf settings but not man page... far too late, must sleep) Actually the redirect works well, esp. now that someone explained the redirect (new to 'sudo' too) Thanks TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 07:32:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0E516A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:32:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35FF443D4C for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:32:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 77248 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 07:32:01 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 07:32:01 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:31:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> <200501150012.42358.4711@chello.at> <20050115035222.GA61513@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20050115035222.GA61513@polands.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501150832.01458.4711@chello.at> Subject: Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 (SOLVED) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:32:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 January 2005 04:52, Doug Poland wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 12:12:28AM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote: > > On Friday 14 January 2005 20:43, Doug Poland wrote: > > Yes, I tried it under both tcsh and sh. I didn't take it apart the same > way you did however. Also, when size came up as 50000 (24MB) I knew > something wasn't write and didn't pursue that further. What did the > command: > > fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 > > do? It would seem my mirror is correct and consistent. The option -B initializes the bootcode in sector 0, option -I creates one slice that covers the whole disk (man fdisk). > > > Question: On line 27 we issue the command to... > > > # instruct boot stage 2 loader on first disk to boot > > > # with the boot stage 3 loader from the second disk > > > # (mainly because BIOS might not allow easy booting from second ATA > > > disk # or at least requires manual intervention on the console) > > > > > > So how do I get rid of that boot.config file? Should I get rid of it? > > > > If you have a modern machine the BIOS (hopefully) can boot from every > > harddisks that has a partition/slice on it with the active flag set. I > > for myself use a bootmanager on every gmirror disk. You can install it > > with boot0cfg(8) or sysinstall (I only would use boot0cfg, if your mirror > > already has been set up). > > So I can safely remove /boot.config? Otherwise wouldn't the boot stage > 2 loader always then load boot stage 3 off disk 2? Yes, I would remove it. I think, in case, that disk ad6 breaks, the system won't boot w/o manual interaction. In general, it's the best, if you do some real life testing by pulling powercables off the drives. Normally you should be able to replace a disk on a running system. Assuming that disks are connected to different channels: Replace the broken disk by a fresh, clean one, run 'atacontrol attach ' (or maybe 'atacontrol reinit ) and there you go. It's even possible to swap disks around between controller cards on a running machine. I tested this out on cheap Promise TX2 cards - worked like a charm :) Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6Mbx09WjGjvKU74RAhHuAJ0VW2YuQC4vndOYM+nMQALNs4c/QQCfdOfb wFtdG02YOq+hS5qCzSjugpY= =YShc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 08:42:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B883316A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:42:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chococat.sd.dreamhost.com (chococat.sd.dreamhost.com [66.33.201.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7863843D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:42:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tjlists@tntluoma.com) Received: from webmail2.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chococat.sd.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 495A2FA39; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from 69.211.82.66 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tjlists@tntluoma.com) by webmail2.dreamhost.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:42:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54688.69.211.82.66.1105778526.spork@webmail2.dreamhost.com> In-Reply-To: <41E894F7.5000700@makeworld.com> References: <2465F54E-66A9-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> <41E894F7.5000700@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:42:06 -0800 (PST) From: tjlists@tntluoma.com To: "Chris" User-Agent: DreamHost Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:42:06 -0000 > Timothy Luoma wrote: >> >> I cannot get high speed internet access at home. In fact, I can't get >> more than about 26400 on my dialup. > > That sux Yup, especially after several years of having cable access @ our previous house/apartment. >> Anything else I could do to speed things up? > > ISDN? Direct TV? Cable? DSL? DSL = too far from the local hub ISDN = doubtful Cable = possibly this fall. Our cable company was bought by a new company which says that it is dedicated to expanding rural coverage (it ends about a mile from our house, I think). DirecTV = Had DirecWay installed for less than a month. They wanted $60/month, a Windows OS, no wireless (I understand that they have since come out with a way to overcome those two limitations).. but the bottom line is that it was really not much faster than dialup for regular browsing. For downloading a file, yes; but when you went somewhere like Amazon.com with a lot of images and other external files, it really slowed down (this was 2 way satellite, no phone line. We had it uninstalled before 30 days so we could get our money back ... except the $180 installation fee :-/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 09:05:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6FF16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:05:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009D043D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:05:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0903.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D577D1C0016A for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:05:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [82.120.198.245] (ASt-Lambert-152-1-63-245.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.120.198.245]) by mwinf0903.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8801B1C0016D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:05:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050115090505557.8801B1C0016D@mwinf0903.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <41E8DCC5.5060400@landgren.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:05:09 +0100 From: David Landgren Organization: The Dusty Decadent Delights of Imperial Pompeii User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8a5) Gecko/20041122 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, fr-fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Creating your own FreeBSD install CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:05:07 -0000 List, how does one go about creating a FreeBSD install CD-ROM? I'd like to be able to build my own CD-ROM with as much as possible of the install process done automatically. For instance, what parts of FreeBSD to install: X or not, games or not, etc. etc. And which ports to install straight away. I could also set up cfengine so that as soon as the machine came to life it could go and connect to my cfengine repository and download all the latest configurations to move into operational status. E.g., I'd like to just have to specify the partition layout, the name and IP of the machine, and its role(s): (web, dns, squid, mta, samba...) This would make rebuilding so much faster if a machine was catastrophically trashed. And it would make my computing installation much less dependent on me. Thanks for any pointers to documentation on the subject, I'm sure people have done this before, but I can't coax the results out from my web searches. Thanks, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 10:38:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF6E16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:38:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx-itb.geoph.ITB.ac.id (mx7.ITB.ac.id [167.205.30.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DD843D53 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dikshie@ppk.itb.ac.id) Received: from mx.itb.ac.id (localhost.geoph.itb.ac.id [127.0.0.1]) by mx-itb.geoph.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F77C20A8C for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:51:59 +0700 (WIT) Received: from ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id (ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id [167.205.30.228]) by mx-itb.geoph.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC4220A5C for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:51:59 +0700 (WIT) Received: by ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 853C0114D7; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:37:57 +0700 (WIT) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:37:57 +0700 From: Dikshie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050115103757.GA42102@ppk.itb.ac.id> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: (FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386) X-Uptime: 5:32PM up 5 days, 3:07, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.16 X-Organization: Pusat Penelitian Kelautan (PPK) X-Location: Labtek VI Building, Institute of Technology, Bandung, Indonesia X-Web-Site: http://ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id/~dikshie X-Yahoo-ID: dikshie X-GnuPG-Key: http://ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id/gpg/ X-FingerPrint: 19AC 2592 1394 6C96 BABB 9060 50B8 D244 88E3 B55D Subject: gvinum start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:38:14 -0000 dear all, how to start gvinum automaticallly on boot ? /etc/default/rc.conf only contain start_vinum=" " thanks ! -dikshie- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 10:58:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73A916A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9318343D41 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Cpldj-000D0Q-0D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:43 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> In-Reply-To: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501151058.42031.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:46 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > Hi, > > I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you know > of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? I might > be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I > know about the options: > > Alternatives for: This is what I use, it all came from the ports collection and installed without fuss. > - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. The office collection that comes with KDE > - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates > images. > - WinRAR and WinZIP > - WinAMP Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP > - Virtual CD > - Some kind of CD Burner I use burncd and mkisofs from the command line. Can't be bothered with getting a GUI one at the moment > - Some DVD Player Ogle, tho I need to set OGLE_OSS_RESET_BUG environment variable, cos there's something up with the sound drivers for my machine (FreeBSD 5.3R and onboard sound on a A7V600-X motherboard). Now that's worked around Ogle is extreamly good, it does DVD menus as well. > - AC3filter > - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) -- /Xian "Do not worry about your difficulties in Mathematics. I can assure you mine are still greater." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:09:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8153216A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:09:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (avj45.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.43.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B09343D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:09:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0FB9UMH053380 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:09:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <41E8F9EA.2030900@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:09:30 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050114) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergei Gnezdov References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> In-Reply-To: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/663/Tue Jan 11 23:44:48 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:09:39 -0000 Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > Hi, > > I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you know > of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? I might > be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I > know about the options: Hello Sergei, Here's short list what I use / would use: > Alternatives for: > > - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. OpenOffice > - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates > images. GIMP (to create/modify images) > - WinRAR and WinZIP There are several command line tools in /usr/ports/archivers. As for GUI: If you're using KDE there's ARK in kdeutils. Gnome should have something similar. > - WinAMP XMMS > - Virtual CD don't know this software > - Some kind of CD Burner burncd with mkisofs works great if you don't mind command line. K3b (/usr/ports/sysutils/k3b) is great if you like GUI . > - Some DVD Player > - AC3filter mplayer (all you need is in there already) > - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) I cannot comment on this but mplayer is supposed to do that. Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:13:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD3416A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:13:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E468D43D55 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:13:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id D93FF2861A; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:13:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 3920128789; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:36:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7F46230; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:36:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0F9aeV8069432; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:36:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:36:40 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: <08056CAB-667A-11D9-9A7E-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Message-ID: <20050115103338.Y802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <08056CAB-667A-11D9-9A7E-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin installation troubles... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:13:17 -0000 On Jan 14 at 16:17, Eric F Crist reported: > I'm trying to install phpmyadmin from ports. I keep getting an error about > PDF-Lite-6.0.0p1.tar.gz. The only files available now are 6.0.1. I've done > a cvsup, but to no avail. > Several days ago I encountered the same situation. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE Same error exactly Same steps followed, same outcome The difference is I didn't post it - mainly because I thought I was kind of over my "help quota" with MySQL, php etc etc. Regards, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:13:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE61816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:13:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D56943D39 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:13:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 739E52863B; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:13:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9F44028682; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:23:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62B46230; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:23:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0FANRFO069867; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:23:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:23:27 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Duo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050115110918.V802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050114140441.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt [followup] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:13:19 -0000 On Jan 14 at 10:22, Duo made this excellent suggestion: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> I noticed something extremely odd this morning in my http access log. >> There's the usual activity, then suddenly this (about a hundred lines >> are snipped) >> >> Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to prevent >> this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size. > > Why, yes there is! For the low low price of FREE, here is something you can > do for fun and giggles. > > > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)cmd.exe(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)root.exe(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/_vti_bin\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/scripts\/\.\.(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/_mem_bin\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/msadc\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/MSADC\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/c\/winnt\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/d\/winnt\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/x90\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com > I've googled extensively on conditional logging, but the syntax makes my head spin. Following Duo posting this gem yesterday, I planted the whole lot in my httpd.conf. This morning I had a similar occurrence of a WebDAV exploit which again porked out the logfile. As a followup question to this outstanding contribution, can anyone suggest a way of conditional logging which does any or all of the following: a) logs [simply] that a redirect in any of the above categories has happened b) Supresses the verbose output normally associated with one of the above conditions happening In other words you know it happened, but just in a non-verbose way, and you know the redirect worked. Regards & TIA, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:26:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FCA16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:26:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFBC43D4C for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:26:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id E541E28419 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:26:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 57CF628421 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:26:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4036230 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:26:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0FBQWjG070645 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:26:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:26:32 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050115115307.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Apache2 Conditional Logging help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:26:39 -0000 I'm trying to supress logging of such things as favicon.ico, gifs and jpegs. In a home server environment (right now anyway) I just don't think it's necessary to log serving of those items. Accordingly, some googling seemed to point me towards doing something like this: ######################################## SetEnvIf Request_URI "\.gif$" dontlog SetEnvIf Request_URI "\.jpg$" dontlog SetEnvIf Request_URI "\.jpeg$" dontlog But this doesn't work - at all. Images are still being logged My images are in /path/to/web_data/images, so perhaps that has something to do with it. I can't figure out the syntax to accomplish calling the path proerly though. Various kinds of fiddling with the syntax and restarting httpd hasn't worked. Part of the problem is that apachectl configtest doesn't complain about syntax no matter how I fiddle with any of these. It just reports "Syntax OK" and when I restart there are no logfile errors. ######################################## # This one shuts down *all* (access) logging, which is truly puzzling: # SetEnvIf Request_URI "\.gif$" object_is_image=gif dontlog # SetEnvIf Request_URI "\.jpg$" object_is_image=jpg dontlog Some help would definitely be appreciated!! Regards & TIA, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:32:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AF116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:32:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl (smtp1.versatel.nl [62.58.50.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800DE43D1F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:32:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 12841 invoked by uid 10); 15 Jan 2005 11:32:22 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 12830-18C41F2A invoked from network) 15 Jan 2005 12:32:21 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Jan 2005 11:32:21 -0000 Message-ID: <41E90D40.70000@zonnet.nl> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:32:00 +0000 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041109) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> <41E8F9EA.2030900@orchid.homeunix.org> In-Reply-To: <41E8F9EA.2030900@orchid.homeunix.org> X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.52; host: postbode01.zonnet.nl) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Sergei Gnezdov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:32:57 -0000 Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > > > >>- Virtual CD >> >> > >don't know this software > > > Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:43:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3245B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:43:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4D743D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:43:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 1EEFF2841F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:43:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 067F12841E for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:43:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFCF6230 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:43:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0FBhQUH070817 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:43:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:43:26 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20050115115307.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: <20050115123833.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050115115307.D802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Re: Apache2 Conditional Logging help [Followup] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:43:31 -0000 On Jan 15 at 12:26, I said: > I'm trying to supress logging of such things as favicon.ico, gifs and > jpegs. In a home server environment (right now anyway) I just don't > think it's necessary to log serving of those items. > > Accordingly, some googling seemed to point me towards doing something > like this: > ######################################## > SetEnvIf Request_URI "\.gif$" dontlog > SetEnvIf Request_URI "\.jpg$" dontlog > SetEnvIf Request_URI "\.jpeg$" dontlog > > But this doesn't work - at all. Images are still being logged > My images are in /path/to/web_data/images, so perhaps that has something > to do with it. I can't figure out the syntax to accomplish calling the > path proerly though. Various kinds of fiddling with the syntax and > restarting httpd hasn't worked. > > Part of the problem is that apachectl configtest doesn't complain about > syntax no matter how I fiddle with any of these. It just reports "Syntax > OK" and when I restart there are no logfile errors. > FOLLOWUP I found this gem at: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/env.html#examples SetEnvIf Request_URI \.gif image-request SetEnvIf Request_URI \.jpg image-request SetEnvIf Request_URI \.png image-request CustomLog /var/log/httpd-access.log combined env=!image-request Restarted httpd and no more images (of the kind described above anyway) were logged. Still outstanding is the other task of conditionally logging attempted exploits, (but not the output) and confirming URL-rewriting is working as per my other post this morning. Regards to all, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:52:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE1B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:52:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32E243D46 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:52:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CpmTu-000B6Z-OH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:52:38 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:52:37 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501151152.37942.ian@codepad.net> Subject: kernel panic on umass drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:52:40 -0000 I have small USB flash drive that has worked quite well up until now with FreeBSD. I've found I have to boot with it plugged in as when I don't will give a line in dmesg: umass0: Generic USB Flash Disk, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 5 but it only give the lines umass0: Generic USB Flash Disk, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 5 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 31MB (63904 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 31C) I found that when I didn't have the da0 lines (It wasn't in the machine on boot) and I pulled the drive out it the kernel panicked about a page fault. The instruction pointer was 0xc0489e5b, and current process was 31 (irq21: uhci0 uhci1*). [ian@hercules:~] %nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c0489e5 c0489e50 t uhci_check_intr [ian@hercules:~] %uname -a FreeBSD hercules.codepad.net 5.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 #6: Fri Jan 14 23:59:29 GMT 2005 root@hercules.codepad.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HERCULES i386 Also a yesterday I compiled in "device ehci" and the kernel panicked on boot when just after it had detected umass when the drive was plugged in. So I compiled it out again. I have had other USB Flash drives work properly on earlier version(s) of either 5.2.1R or 5.3R, I can't remember. I'm not sure how to get round this, or who this information would help. Any help will be very much appreciated, or who to send this info to. -- /Xian "Too many of us look upon Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:56:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EB816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:56:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE6F43D48 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:56:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CpmoR-000BEb-B1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:13:51 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:56:08 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050115103757.GA42102@ppk.itb.ac.id> In-Reply-To: <20050115103757.GA42102@ppk.itb.ac.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501151156.08018.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: gvinum start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:56:10 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 10:37, Dikshie wrote: > dear all, > how to start gvinum automaticallly on boot ? > /etc/default/rc.conf only contain start_vinum=" " > > > > thanks ! > > -dikshie- You could try start_vinum="YES" a lot of things start like that. -- /Xian "Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realize the pig is enjoying it." Unknown Author From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 11:59:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EB016A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:59:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A9643D55 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:59:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Cpmal-000MaM-Hm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:59:43 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:59:43 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200501151152.37942.ian@codepad.net> In-Reply-To: <200501151152.37942.ian@codepad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501151159.43196.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: kernel panic on umass drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:59:44 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 11:52, Xian wrote: > I have small USB flash drive that has worked quite well up until now with > FreeBSD. I've found I have to boot with it plugged in as when I don't will > give a line in dmesg: > > umass0: Generic USB Flash Disk, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 5 > > but it only give the lines Sorry, I meant it only gives the following when it is plugged in on boot > > umass0: Generic USB Flash Disk, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 5 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 31MB (63904 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 31C) > > I found that when I didn't have the da0 lines (It wasn't in the machine on > boot) and I pulled the drive out it the kernel panicked about a page fault. > The instruction pointer was 0xc0489e5b, and current process was 31 (irq21: > uhci0 uhci1*). > > [ian@hercules:~] %nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c0489e5 > c0489e50 t uhci_check_intr > [ian@hercules:~] %uname -a > FreeBSD hercules.codepad.net 5.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 #6: Fri > Jan 14 23:59:29 GMT 2005 > root@hercules.codepad.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HERCULES i386 > > Also a yesterday I compiled in "device ehci" and the kernel panicked on > boot when just after it had detected umass when the drive was plugged in. > So I compiled it out again. > > I have had other USB Flash drives work properly on earlier version(s) of > either 5.2.1R or 5.3R, I can't remember. > > I'm not sure how to get round this, or who this information would help. Any > help will be very much appreciated, or who to send this info to. -- /Xian "INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY" unknown author From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 12:45:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B764C16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:45:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (raptor.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3793C43D53 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:45:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:45:11 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Saturday, 15 January 2005, 08:45:03 Received: from 172.16.11.106 ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:45:01 -0400 Message-ID: <1105778733.78910.4.camel@draco.cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:45:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2005 12:45:02.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[07B969A0:01C4FB00] References: In-Reply-To: Subject: gstreamer error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:45:32 -0000 Hi i istalled rhythmbox and get this error Failed to create the player: Coldn't initialize scheduler. Did you run gst-register? then i run gst-register and this is the error .... ..... .. Added plugin dvdreadsrc with 1 feature. Added plugin cdparanoia with 1 feature. Added plugin artsdsink with 1 feature. Added plugin aasink with 1 feature. Added plugin cdplayer with 1 feature. Bus error (core dumped) I can't use rhythmbox :-( what can i do thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 12:53:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC5A16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:53:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-2.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFD543D5A for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:53:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [217.159.160.148] (217-159-160-148-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [217.159.160.148]) by MXR-2.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F7514B19B for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:53:31 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E9120E.7000502@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:52:30 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee Subject: dump performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:53:35 -0000 Hello! I'm following the procedure in the NEW-HUGE-DISK FAQ entry to move my system to bigger disks. In a nutshell, the dump/restore combo recommended there seems painfully slow. For example, I have newfs-ed the partition which is to become /usr with the newfs default parameters and mounted it as /mnt/usr. Then I do: # cd /mnt/usr # dump 0af - /usr | restore xf - The procedure starts, and after running for 5 minutes it informs me that dumping is 8.35 % done and should be complete in 54 minutes. This is a total of 1 hour for a partition that holds approximately 2.2 GB of data, making the speed somewhere about 40 MB/minute. Maybe it's just me but it seems way too slow. I tried adding -b 64 and -C 32 switches to dump, and -b 64 to restore. This speeds up the process ca 50 %, but it still means 40 minutes for this partition. 40 minutes is maybe not so bad, but at this speed my /home partition which is 65 GB full would take approximately 18 hours! Tar, on the other hand, did the entire /usr partition in 15 minutes: # cd /mnt # tar cf - -C / usr | tar xf - The source partition is on ATA RAID1 array, consisting of two ATA133 disks attached to Promise TX2 controller. The disks are recognized as ATA133 in dmesg. The destination partition is on an ATA100 disk, attached to ICH4 controller. This disk is recognized as ATA100 in dmesg. Are these speeds normal for dump, or am I missing something? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 13:00:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBA216A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:00:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-4.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987C643D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:00:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [217.159.160.148] (217-159-160-148-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [217.159.160.148]) by MXR-4.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A305F10EE47 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:00:39 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E913B9.3040600@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:59:37 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <41E9120E.7000502@raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <41E9120E.7000502@raad.tartu.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dump performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:00:41 -0000 Toomas Aas wrote: > I'm following the procedure in the NEW-HUGE-DISK FAQ entry to move my > system to bigger disks. How lame of me. I forgot to mention my OS version. It is 4.10-RELEASE-p5. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 14:05:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9440416A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:05:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00B3443D31 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO chesed.razorfever.net) (plick@rogers.com@70.25.112.61 with plain) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 14:05:57 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (newskool.razorfever.net [192.168.0.10]) j0FE5uin044026; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:05:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Message-ID: <41E92344.6060203@rogers.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:05:56 -0500 From: Derek User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toomas Aas , questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j Subject: Re: dump performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:05:58 -0000 Toomas Aas wrote: > # cd /mnt/usr > # dump 0af - /usr | restore xf - > Are these speeds normal for dump, or am I missing something? I would think not, but let's find out. When you are running the above series of commands, can you instead do this: # cd /mnt/usr # mount # dump 0af - /usr | restore xf - & # iostat -c10 Give us the output of mount, and first 10 samples from iostat to see what kind of throughput you are getting, and how the filesystems are mounted. I don't know how many recommendations I'll be able to suggest after that, but it will show us more what's going on. Cheers, Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 14:07:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD05916A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:07:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB6643D31 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:07:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA799BD5EA for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A88179BD for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 52479-06 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:37 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAEB179BA for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E923A8.5090201@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:36 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de Subject: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:07:43 -0000 Hello, recently I did update my package tree using the portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes options during an update, as I did built them manually before. After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ... WITH_PYTHON=yes ... option. How can I ensure that each of the WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual installation of a port, will be recognized during an update as well? Should I, for example, specify those knobs in /etc/make.conf? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 14:09:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E063216A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:09:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6809443D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:09:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO chesed.razorfever.net) (plick@rogers.com@70.25.112.61 with plain) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 14:09:55 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (newskool.razorfever.net [192.168.0.10]) j0FE9tin044041; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:09:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Message-ID: <41E92433.7070703@rogers.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:09:55 -0500 From: Derek User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j Subject: Re: dump performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:09:57 -0000 Derek wrote: > I would think not, but let's find out. When you are running the above > series of commands, can you instead do this: > > # cd /mnt/usr > # mount > # dump 0af - /usr | restore xf - & > # iostat -c10 Ooooh! And: sysctl hw.ata From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 14:35:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D8C16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:35:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F8843D46 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:35:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:9964 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpp1Q-000Ep7-IP; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:35:24 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471401A9A7; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:35:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F0C3701F; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:35:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E92A29.4090201@scii.nl> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:35:21 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergei Gnezdov , Questions FreeBSD References: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> <41E8ABB9.7000205@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <41E8ABB9.7000205@daleco.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:35:28 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> Motherboard: Asus A7V8x-x, chipset VIA-KT400, with onboard sound, >> LAN, ATA133, USB >> >> > > Doubt that's much of an issue. And, in regard > to your assertation about sound, I've never had > much trouble with sound and FreeBSD, regardless > of the card or onboard chipset, except for a few > cards that weren't listed as supported on the > web site. YMMV. > >> Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce4 MX440SE with TV-out i've recently put FreeBSD 5.3 on a machine with such a motherboard, with a Nvidia GeForce4 MX4000, made Xorg + nvidia-drivers work by using xorgcfg and manually editing xorg.conf afterwards, works fine, although i haven't tried sound at all (that machine became a server, and the videocard went into another machine) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 14:35:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF6516A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:35:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from beastie.hyow.eu.org (beastie.hyow.eu.org [213.152.46.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A72B43D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:35:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@hyow.eu.org) Received: (qmail 65328 invoked by uid 751); 15 Jan 2005 14:41:20 +0000 Received: from mark@hyow.eu.org by beastie.hyow.eu.org by uid 731 with qmail-scanner-1.22-st-qms Clear:RC:0(10.0.0.11):SA:0(-2.8/5.0):. Processed in 5.759087 secs); 15 Jan 2005 14:41:20 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-HYOW.EU.ORG-Mail-From: mark@hyow.eu.org via beastie.hyow.eu.org X-Antivirus-HYOW.EU.ORG: 1.22-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(10.0.0.11):SA:0(-2.8/5.0):. Processed in 5.759087 secs Process 65322) Received: from deity.hyow.eu.org (mark@hyow.eu.org@10.0.0.11) by beastie.hyow.eu.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 14:41:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:36:11 +0000 From: Mark Magiera To: "Daniel S. Haischt" Message-Id: <20050115143611.6eddfdab.mark@hyow.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <41E923A8.5090201@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> References: <41E923A8.5090201@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.99-gtk2-20041024 (GTK+ 2.4.14; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:35:51 -0000 On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:36 +0100 "Daniel S. Haischt" wrote: > Hello, > > recently I did update my package tree using the > portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether > my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes > options during an update, as I did built them > manually before. > > After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did > notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ... > > WITH_PYTHON=yes > > ... option. How can I ensure that each of the > WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual > installation of a port, will be recognized during > an update as well? Have a look at the MAKE_ARGS section of /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf For instance: : MAKE_ARGS = { : 'graphics/gimp' => 'WITH_PYTHON=1', : } Downside to this is it only works with portupgrade so if you ever have to upgrade a port without portupgrade (it happens), then you might just forget to specify the make args manually. Not a good thing to realise half way through a upgrade of kde :( > > Should I, for example, specify those knobs in > /etc/make.conf? You could do I guess. The (possible) downside to this approach is that since a lot of ports share the same make args. All ports that have optional python support, not just gimp, would be built with the python bits which may be undesired. Python's just an example of course, some ports do have unique make args but a lot of them are generally shared by a bunch of ports. For instance I usally have WITHOUT_X11=yes in my make.conf on servers to stop anything X related being built. > freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards > Daniel S. Haischt > -- Mark Magiera From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 14:50:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E676316A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:50:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0244443D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:50:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F076FFD01F; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:50:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E92DAF.20507@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:50:23 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel S. Haischt" References: <41E923A8.5090201@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> In-Reply-To: <41E923A8.5090201@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:50:32 -0000 Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > Hello, > > recently I did update my package tree using the > portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether > my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes > options during an update, as I did built them > manually before. > > After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did > notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ... > > WITH_PYTHON=yes > > ... option. How can I ensure that each of the > WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual > installation of a port, will be recognized during > an update as well? > > Should I, for example, specify those knobs in > /etc/make.conf? > Unfortunately this is not supported by all ports, but some ports opens an interactive menu for enabling/disabling build options and the configuration is then stored in /var/db/ports for future builds. This should replace setting options on the command line. AFAIK the idea is that all ports should/will support this in future++. Till then, the above problem will remain :-( It's not documented in the porters handbook, but it doesn't seem too difficult to add, but I'm not into the magic. If you have time, create an update of the Makefile and submit to the maintainer. You may take a look at eg. the mplayer-skins port to see how it works. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 14:52:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB4816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:52:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D9C43D5A for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:52:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CA9BD695; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:52:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F81F179BF; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:52:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:52:03 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 23536-02; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:52:03 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF65617385; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:52:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E92E11.9060405@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:52:01 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Magiera References: <41E923A8.5090201@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> <20050115143611.6eddfdab.mark@hyow.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20050115143611.6eddfdab.mark@hyow.eu.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:52:08 -0000 The downside of the whole thing is, that I did not make notes about all the WITH_FOO_BAR knobs that I did used while installing a port. So adding options to /etc/make.conf or /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf at the time is a bit late. There are some ports, like Samba, which will remember the options that you did specify after executing 'make config'. I would appreciate if any port would have such a facility. Mark Magiera schrieb: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:36 +0100 > "Daniel S. Haischt" wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>recently I did update my package tree using the >>portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether >>my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes >>options during an update, as I did built them >>manually before. >> >>After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did >>notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ... >> >> WITH_PYTHON=yes >> >>... option. How can I ensure that each of the >>WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual >>installation of a port, will be recognized during >>an update as well? > > > Have a look at the MAKE_ARGS section of /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf > For instance: > : MAKE_ARGS = { > : 'graphics/gimp' => 'WITH_PYTHON=1', > : } > > Downside to this is it only works with portupgrade so if you ever have > to upgrade a port without portupgrade (it happens), then you might just > forget to specify the make args manually. Not a good thing to realise > half way through a upgrade of kde :( > > >>Should I, for example, specify those knobs in >>/etc/make.conf? > > > You could do I guess. > The (possible) downside to this approach is that since a lot of ports > share the same make args. All ports that have optional python support, > not just gimp, would be built with the python bits which may be > undesired. Python's just an example of course, some ports do have unique > make args but a lot of them are generally shared by a bunch of ports. > For instance I usally have WITHOUT_X11=yes in my make.conf on servers to > stop anything X related being built. > > >>freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards >>Daniel S. Haischt >> > > -- Mark Magiera > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e92a7447187929512783! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 14:56:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B819C16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:56:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B6943D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:56:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1D6BD5EE; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:56:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B968179C6; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:56:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:56:55 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 23535-02; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:56:55 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B335179B3; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:56:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E92F35.5070209@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:56:53 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <41E923A8.5090201@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> <41E92DAF.20507@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <41E92DAF.20507@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:56:57 -0000 Yea, I know what you mean. Basically there are some ports supporting the 'make config' commands. My current situation is that I did install dozens of ports which are not supporting the 'make config' command and unfortunatly I do not remember all the WITH_BLAH_BLUBBER knobs that I specify while installing a port. So there is a great chance that a portupgrade will install a port with missing knobs :( Erik Norgaard schrieb: > Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> recently I did update my package tree using the >> portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether >> my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes >> options during an update, as I did built them >> manually before. >> >> After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did >> notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ... >> >> WITH_PYTHON=yes >> >> ... option. How can I ensure that each of the >> WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual >> installation of a port, will be recognized during >> an update as well? >> >> Should I, for example, specify those knobs in >> /etc/make.conf? >> > > Unfortunately this is not supported by all ports, but some ports opens > an interactive menu for enabling/disabling build options and the > configuration is then stored in /var/db/ports for future builds. This > should replace setting options on the command line. > > AFAIK the idea is that all ports should/will support this in future++. > Till then, the above problem will remain :-( > > It's not documented in the porters handbook, but it doesn't seem too > difficult to add, but I'm not into the magic. If you have time, create > an update of the Makefile and submit to the maintainer. You may take a > look at eg. the mplayer-skins port to see how it works. > > Cheers, Erik -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 15:24:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A3416A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:24:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61010.mail.yahoo.com (web61010.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B426C43D53 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edu07643@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 60315 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2005 15:24:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20050115152455.60313.qmail@web61010.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.86.20.47] by web61010.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:24:55 ART Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:24:55 -0300 (ART) From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:24:56 -0000 I'm having trouble in getting the java plugin to work with mozilla on FreeBSD 5.3, here what I did: Install jdk13 using the port and then I linksysed /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so to /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin.so but unfortunately it still doesn't work. Any ideas as to why? _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ - Internet rápida e grátis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 15:40:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AEC16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:40:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail14.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3612843D46 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:40:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 18225 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 15:40:50 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail14.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Jan 2005 15:40:50 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9FFF568; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:40:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: freebsd References: <20050114184915.GB1802@beke.info> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 15 Jan 2005 10:40:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050114184915.GB1802@beke.info> Message-ID: <44oefqvgxq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bimap instead of public ip and servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:40:51 -0000 freebsd writes: > Hi all, > i have a following problem, probably someone was through this before and > can offer advice. > Now i'm using DSL with static ip address and on my home FreeBSD server > there is group of servers serving my family and friends. Servers are qmail, > djbdns and apache. > I'm doing dns for my domain, mail server and http is also under my full > control. > Now i found cheaper option, but... > Instead of public static ip i'll have only bimap. Provider don't want to > route my public address into his LAN, because he don't want to waste > additional public ip's. Now i have a problem. > I'm not sure, if it will be possible to run DNS server, mail server and > web server in this enviroment. Just now i found, that qmail first checks > if his ip is resolved MX record for domain it's serving and refuses to > start, if it's not. And i'm bimapped, so it's not ;-). > I'll play with this during a weekend, but if someone can help, i'd be > gratefull. > Maybe this is not exactly FreeBSD problem, hope you don't mind ;-). I don't know anything about qmail particularly, but if you're running your own DNS, you should be able to report anything you want to the DNS queries of your own mail daemon... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 15:42:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598AA16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:42:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3141743D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:42:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 658 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 15:42:21 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Jan 2005 15:42:20 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1021868; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:42:20 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Pieter Hustinx References: <20050114205456.36ad4fde.freebsd-questions@hustinx.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 15 Jan 2005 10:42:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050114205456.36ad4fde.freebsd-questions@hustinx.org> Message-ID: <44k6qevgv8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logitech access keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:42:21 -0000 Pieter Hustinx writes: > I want to adjust my keymap, I need to know the scancode of that keys. > How can I get the scancode of that keys. xev(1), perhaps? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 16:21:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6168116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:21:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6CF43D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:21:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050115162127012000u646e>; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:21:27 +0000 Message-ID: <41E94307.4080107@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:21:27 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sp0ng3b0b References: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <41E584BA.3030906@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:21:28 -0000 sp0ng3b0b wrote: > I am getting a quote for a new server. > > I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 > fiber gigabit card. > > Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Opterons and FreeBSD 5.3? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I am running dual Opteron 246s with 1G of memory on a Tyan Thunder K8W S2885ANRF. I want to double my memory when I get the chance. I am running 6.0-Current however. So far so good. Things have been solid, finally. Had some growing pains at first but things have settled the past few days. It has been a combination of my playing, and dealing with the AMD64 platform versus i386, and I am running in 64 bit mode, not 32 bit. Good points. Real fast, no delays on anything. Compile times for ports or even kernel builds is very quick, in fact impressive. Bad points. Compatibility. Many ports, such as openoffice and java are currently not working on this platform, and I am sure there are others. Currently trying out Koffice for the first time in a very long while and it runs great. Note, Abiword having intermittent problems running on this platform, at least for me. I am using KDE as my desktop. Tried pulling out my Linux version of Railroad Tycoon 2 from Loki software just a short time ago. So far not much luck, but to be fair I have not had much time to troubleshoot. Time is always a problem for me. But all I can think of is an i386 game designed for Linux and trying to run it on an amd64 FreeBSD 6.0 system. Sounds like a hurdle. Have fun, Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 16:25:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69B116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:25:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mygirlfriday.info (mo-65-41-216-204.sta.sprint-hsd.net [65.41.216.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6F843D39 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:25:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gv-list-freebsdquestions@mygirlfriday.info) Received: from [192.168.0.5] by mygirlfriday.info (Cipher TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (MDaemon.PRO.v7.2.2.T) with ESMTP id md50000002206.msg for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:25:08 -0600 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:25:06 -0600 From: Gary To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0066E10C37E8BF20054AF017@[192.168.0.5]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Processed: mygirlfriday.info, Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:25:08 -0600 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Return-Path: gv-list-freebsdquestions@mygirlfriday.info X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bimap instead of public ip and servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:25:10 -0000 Hi, --On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:40 AM -0500 Lowell Gilbert wrote in part, to freebsd@beke.info about his question: > freebsd writes: >> Now i'm using DSL with static ip address and on my home FreeBSD server >> there is group of servers serving my family and friends. Servers are >> qmail, djbdns and apache. okay. >> I'm doing dns for my domain, mail server and http is also under my full >> control. okay >> Instead of public static ip i'll have only bimap. Provider don't want to >> route my public address into his LAN, because he don't want to waste >> additional public ip's. Now i have a problem. >> I'm not sure, if it will be possible to run DNS server, mail server and >> web server in this enviroment. Just now i found, that qmail first checks >> if his ip is resolved MX record for domain it's serving and refuses to >> start, if it's not. And i'm bimapped, so it's not ;-). qmail does not... it checks for any valid MX record for a domain. You have to publish your MX records for your domain publicly using tinydns, part of the djbdns package, or some other DNS service. You will never receive mail, or get hits on Apache if you do not have published you DNS records somehow. There are some free services that will allow you to sign on and they will update your IP addresses on their DNS if they are dynamic. > I don't know anything about qmail particularly, but if you're running > your own DNS, you should be able to report anything you want to the > DNS queries of your own mail daemon... exactly... -- Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 16:47:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC54616A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:47:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from w2xo.jcdurham.com (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E6843D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:47:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) Received: from dhcp18.home.jcdurham.com (dhcp18.home.jcdurham.com [192.168.5.18]) by w2xo.jcdurham.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FGluhk093259 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:47:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) From: Jim Durham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:47:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501151147.54192.durham@jcdurham.com> Subject: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:47:57 -0000 I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented information regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented for an office/LAN environment. I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on freebsd.org. If such a list or newsgroup does not exist, would there be any interest in starting one or both? -- -Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 18:07:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7150216A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:07:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50301.mail.yahoo.com (web50301.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA92843D49 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murcielako@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 78489 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2005 18:07:47 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Unable to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a SMP box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:07:48 -0000 Hi there I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a dual p3 box: asus cuv4x-d mobo adaptec AHA-2940 uw and 29160 I'm using the lastest bios when I try to boot I get a lot of hexadecimal codes and the I get BTX HALTED I dont think there is any hardware problem because GNU/Linux installs without a single problem Jorge Mario G. Mazo _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 18:11:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74C116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:11:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348E743D31 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:11:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FIBL12088200 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:11:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41E95D13.30605@mac.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:12:35 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Durham References: <200501151147.54192.durham@jcdurham.com> In-Reply-To: <200501151147.54192.durham@jcdurham.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:11:26 -0000 Jim Durham wrote: > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 > servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. OK. > Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the > signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented information > regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented for an office/LAN > environment. > > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on > FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on > freebsd.org. Your question parses, but it is not clear what specific thing you have in mind that would seperate an IT-oriented list from a non-IT oriented list. Can you either give an example question or two, or can you say why freebsd-questions is *not* IT-oriented? Or does your question mean you looking for a list whose members are mostly sysadmins and network managers, rather than end-users? FreeBSD doesn't really make much distinction between an end-user and a sysadmin [1], but you might find freebsd-stable or freebsd-isp to come closer to what you are looking for. -- -Chuck [1]: Which can be benefit sometimes, or it can be a problem, especially for novice users, but that's another topic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 18:27:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8567716A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:27:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C01743D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:27:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:28:48 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202EF84CD@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: make "make" quieter? Thread-Index: AcT6z2rMNcT/qROLR/StyorMMO6LywAYAx/w From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "Timothy Luoma" , "FreeBSD-Questions Questions" , "Scott Bennett" Subject: RE: make "make" quieter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:27:30 -0000 Someone broke the silence:=20 > On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: >=20 >> You've tried "-s"? And that was still too chatty? >=20 > -s looks promising (d'oh, checked make.conf settings but not man > page... far too late, must sleep) >=20 > Actually the redirect works well, esp. now that someone explained the > redirect (new to 'sudo' too)=20 If you are on a dialup connection like I am. I just use screen = (ports/misc/screen). Create a new screen instance then do make install clean then hold down = ctrl and hit D. I would be deattached and it'll be compiling in the background. When I = want to check the status of it, I would resume the screen. Fairly simple. Chris >=20 > Thanks > TjL >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 18:36:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA4B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:36:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D18F43D41 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:36:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:37:36 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202EF84CE@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: make "make" quieter? Thread-Index: AcT6z2rMNcT/qROLR/StyorMMO6LywAYAx/wAABlrfA= From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "FreeBSD-Questions Questions" Subject: RE: make "make" quieter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:36:16 -0000 Someone broke the silence:=20 > Someone broke the silence: >=20 >> On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: >>=20 >>> You've tried "-s"? And that was still too chatty? >>=20 >> -s looks promising (d'oh, checked make.conf settings but not man >> page... far too late, must sleep) >>=20 >> Actually the redirect works well, esp. now that someone explained the >> redirect (new to 'sudo' too) >=20 > If you are on a dialup connection like I am. I just use screen > (ports/misc/screen).=20 >=20 > Create a new screen instance then do make install clean then hold > down ctrl and hit D.=20 Excuse me, Hold down Ctrl then hit A key then let go of the Ctrl key and = hit D key. Now back to the grilling of my BBQ ribs. Chris >=20 > I would be deattached and it'll be compiling in the > background. When I want to check the status of > it, I would resume the screen. Fairly simple. >=20 > Chris >=20 >>=20 >> Thanks >> TjL >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 18:42:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFBA16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CDC43D46 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xtalsinger@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from localhost ([82.39.75.228]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by [127.0.0.1] with ESMTP (SpamPal v1.57) sender ; 15 Jan 2005 18:42:29 +0100 From: Dave To: Kevin Kinsey Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:42:28 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1105760083.669.5.camel@owl2> <41E8ABB9.7000205@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <41E8ABB9.7000205@daleco.biz> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2005 18:43:03.0178 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B6BFEA0:01C4FB32] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtalsinger@blueyonder.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:42:31 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:35:53 -0600, you wrote: >Sergei Gnezdov wrote: >>Scanner: mustec1200CP >> >> > >Possibly an issue. You'd need to decide what software >you intend to use, and check the site for that, I think. > >SANE is the software of choice, I gather (could be wrong). >Last I recall looking at their site, there *might* have been >support for Mustek, but I wasn't too hopeful for the scanners >I have "in the pile." I can't remember, but I think one was a >Mustek. YMMV. I can confirm the mustec1200CP (aka Bearpaw1200) as working with sane under FreeBSD. Dave -- Any speling misteaks are the reult of a bad insallation of mod_spelink. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:24:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6402616A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:24:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0C743D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from Delliver.face2interface.com (xbadhmau@inoc202-203.veranet.net [216.238.202.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id j0FJNlmp008752 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:23:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.01e19000@mail.ulster.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:24:19 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marty Landman Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: how to install a different sub-release from the port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:24:25 -0000 Want to install Apache and already have a copy on my LAN of apache_1.3.29.tar.gz; when going to /usr/ports/ # cd www/apache13 # make install >> apache_1.3.27.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. How can I get make to look for apache_1.3.29 instead of 1.3.27? Or is it possible for me to install "manually" instead of going through the ports collection? Marty Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:24:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF8916A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:24:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506D143D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:24:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from Delliver.face2interface.com (dvfikc@inoc202-203.veranet.net [216.238.202.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id j0FJNnmp008762 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:23:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:24:21 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marty Landman Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: how to install samba with outdated port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:24:26 -0000 I'm running a fresh install of 4.8 from the mini-iso and would like to install samba. Have d/l'd samba-3.0.10 which is the uncompressed samba-latest.tar.gz and copied this into my /usr/ports/distfiles. When I go to /usr/ports/net/samba and make build I get: # make build >> samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. >> Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./. fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: Operation timed out >> Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/. fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: Operation timed out I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build && make install using the latest version. Marty Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:29:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7C516A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:29:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F6443D48 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:29:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E686F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.134.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBCB2FC64 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:29:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E96F26.8020405@incubus.de> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:29:42 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501131424.j0DEOnvw001009@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <41E697DA.5090905@comcast.net> <200501140241.j0E2fUHZ002973@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <41E8183C.50103@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <41E8183C.50103@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cut and paste in Emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:29:49 -0000 Kris Maglione wrote: > I, personally, still don't completely understand the entire unix/X cut > buffer system. First, there is more than one cut buffer, but I doubt > that that's your problem. Second, there is select-to-copy and > select+right click.../ctrl+c/... to copy. These use two different X11 cut&paste is a mess.. the OP might try to use xclipboard as an intermediate target. It often works, when two programs use different mechanisms for selections. mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:33:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3710D16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:33:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF79243D79 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A96BD65B; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:33:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 97E1217B6D; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:33:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:33:10 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 06135-02; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:33:10 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1024B17B5B; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:33:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E96FF4.4050907@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:33:08 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Landman References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install samba with outdated port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:33:19 -0000 Did you update your ports collection? For example did you update them using CVSup? Take a look at ... -> http://tinyurl.com/2t4vg ... for more infos. Marty Landman schrieb: > I'm running a fresh install of 4.8 from the mini-iso and would like to > install samba. Have d/l'd samba-3.0.10 > which is the uncompressed samba-latest.tar.gz and copied this into my > /usr/ports/distfiles. > > When I go to /usr/ports/net/samba and make build I get: > > # make build > >> samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > >> Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./. > fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: Operation > timed out > >> Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/. > fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: > Operation timed out > > I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build && > make install using the latest version. > > Marty > > Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 > Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml > Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e96e1a134362258173384! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:35:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF2116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:35:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDFF43D1F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:35:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from Delliver.face2interface.com (xzlace@inoc202-203.veranet.net [216.238.202.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id j0FJYRmp020355 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:34:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115143408.047a2d30@mail.face2interface.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:34:59 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marty Landman Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: apologies for the duplicate postings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:35:05 -0000 Sorry my two postings got sent twice... had a problem with postings bouncing and my ctrl-e got the better of me just before. -- Marty Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:35:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A91016A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:35:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A0943D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:35:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 157975646E; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:35:58 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:35:58 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Marty Landman Message-ID: <20050115193558.GA9004@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.01e19000@mail.ulster.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.01e19000@mail.ulster.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install a different sub-release from the port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:35:59 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 02:24:19PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > Want to install Apache and already have a copy on my LAN of > apache_1.3.29.tar.gz; when going to /usr/ports/ > > # cd www/apache13 > # make install > >> apache_1.3.27.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > > How can I get make to look for apache_1.3.29 instead of 1.3.27? Or is it > possible for me to install "manually" instead of going through the ports > collection? You need to cvsup update your ports collection. The current port is up to apache-1.3.33_1. Details on how to keep your ports collection up to date can be found in the Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html with an example file on your local file-system at: /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. I want to achieve it through not dying" - Woody Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:41:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BAA16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:41:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl (smtp2.versatel.nl [62.58.50.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285A243D79 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:41:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 21120 invoked by uid 10); 15 Jan 2005 19:41:12 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 21099-DD74D1E8 invoked from network) 15 Jan 2005 20:41:12 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Jan 2005 19:41:12 -0000 Message-ID: <41E97FD6.5060207@zonnet.nl> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:40:54 +0000 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041109) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Landman References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.52; host: postbode02.zonnet.nl) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install samba with outdated port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:41:15 -0000 Marty Landman wrote: > I'm running a fresh install of 4.8 from the mini-iso and would like to > install samba. Have d/l'd samba-3.0.10 > which is the uncompressed samba-latest.tar.gz and copied this into my > /usr/ports/distfiles. > > When I go to /usr/ports/net/samba and make build I get: > > # make build > >> samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > >> Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./. > fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: Operation > timed out > >> Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/. > fetch: > http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: > Operation timed out > > I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build && > make install using the latest version. > > Marty > > Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 > Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml > Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You have to use cvsup to get the latest ports, therefor you need /net/cvsup then you need to use a cvsup file to download the ports here's mine: / *default tag=. *default host=cvsup.nl.freebsd.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/var/db *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress ports-all release=cv/ than just run: cvsup -l 2 -g for more info: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html and when it's done just run a make install clean again. An other option is using net/portupgrade but I'm not a fan of that ... Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:43:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C8B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:43:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl (smtp1.versatel.nl [62.58.50.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB2F43D55 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 29915 invoked by uid 10); 15 Jan 2005 19:43:35 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 29909-CF31ED6D invoked from network) 15 Jan 2005 20:43:35 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Jan 2005 19:43:35 -0000 Message-ID: <41E98066.40807@zonnet.nl> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:43:18 +0000 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041109) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Landman References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.01e19000@mail.ulster.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.01e19000@mail.ulster.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.52; host: postbode01.zonnet.nl) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install a different sub-release from the port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:43:36 -0000 Marty Landman wrote: > Want to install Apache and already have a copy on my LAN of > apache_1.3.29.tar.gz; when going to /usr/ports/ > > # cd www/apache13 > # make install > >> apache_1.3.27.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > > How can I get make to look for apache_1.3.29 instead of 1.3.27? Or is > it possible for me to install "manually" instead of going through the > ports collection? > > Marty > > Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 > Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml > Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You can install a newer release of apache by upgrading your portstree and than compiling it again ( use cvsup for the upgrading part: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html ) if you want to compile the exact version without the ports ( the linux way ) than you have to download the sourcecode from www.apache.org extract it, run a ./configure && make && make install to install ( see docs apache for exact install ) btw. why don't you use apache-2 ? Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:47:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032C716A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:47:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61305.mail.yahoo.com (web61305.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D2CE43D5C for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:47:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from boris_spirial@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21419 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2005 19:47:09 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=1pilnIeLR+b2NBvDPd27AH2LrlMBXOA1B5n4S+z0d52bvHXqluuN/g6bI6kTiehgMItDdwrGCOR7NPPtXEyV40rNUYCO0gAMIu2SZkaFdwLiQqg2kHJ+TKxAUk+RGyvdJ4xp7g3tr1of2r4OCKG2HsJtliSHF5AqEvbvju8mAVA= ; Message-ID: <20050115194708.21417.qmail@web61305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web61305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:47:08 PST Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:47:08 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a SMP box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:47:10 -0000 >Hi there >I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a dual p3 box: >asus cuv4x-d mobo >adaptec AHA-2940 uw and 29160 > >I'm using the lastest bios > >when I try to boot I get a lot of hexadecimal codes >and the I get BTX HALTED > >I dont think there is any hardware problem because >GNU/Linux installs without a single problem > Why don't you donate your hardware to FreeBSD team? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:55:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4251216A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:55:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9A843D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:55:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id h.82.1f965f59 (16633); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:54:53 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <82.1f965f59.2f1acf0d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:54:53 EST To: ecrist@secure-computing.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:55:04 -0000 On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Welcome back to my killfile (although I doubt you'll stay there long > because of your desperate need to hear your own voice). > > Kris > >Now, I understand his/her/it's words are harsh, but is killing them >really a fair alternative? Well, I guess I can see your point. >:grabs pitchfork:: Kris is a loser. He ridicules and blocks people because he doesn't have the technical knowledge to address the questions. Im sure he doesn't understand anyway, so who cares if he reads my messages or not? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:55:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9932216A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:55:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0797A43D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:55:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050115195544011000hptpe>; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:55:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 12589 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 19:55:42 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 19:55:42 -0000 Message-ID: <41E9767D.6000602@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:01:01 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> In-Reply-To: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig79D636E458BEBEC2C12BA6A1" Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:55:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig79D636E458BEBEC2C12BA6A1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sergei Gnezdov wrote: >Alternatives for: > >- MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. > > OpenOffice.org (works with windows too), KOffice >- ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates >images. > > GIMP 2.0 >- WinRAR and WinZIP > > KDE's Ark/command line utils >- WinAMP > > XMMS is popular, but there are lots of other great ones. Most of them are good. I like Xinf, but I don't use it anymore. >- Virtual CD > > mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file.iso -u 1 mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /cdrom1 >- Some kind of CD Burner > > xcdroast, gnome has support too >- Some DVD Player > > Xine, Ogle, Mplayer. All good, Mplayer sucks for DVDs, though >- AC3filter > > some command line tool and a few gui apps >- Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) > > There is a good GUI app for this, but I forget what it's called. Check ports. As a note, though. This friend may be better off with a linux distro. FreeBSD is not newbie friendly and lacks certain hardware/software support that linux has. Not having ALSA precludes certain apps from working/working well. --------------enig79D636E458BEBEC2C12BA6A1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6XaBmcXjc1XBrAQRAj1jAJ0aKxiFGIDdUxLbilAaVYppAb++oACgp2Oe RXZMpGH8aLp2lgRbC7c8N/c= =MwpD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig79D636E458BEBEC2C12BA6A1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 19:57:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE8416A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:57:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DB443D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:57:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050115195704016006ukmse>; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:57:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 12750 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 19:57:03 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 19:57:03 -0000 Message-ID: <41E976D2.5040304@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:02:26 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050115152455.60313.qmail@web61010.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050115152455.60313.qmail@web61010.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAFF5601F292E07D259943622" Subject: Re: Java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:57:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAFF5601F292E07D259943622 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit E. J. Cerejo wrote: >I'm having trouble in getting the java plugin to work >with mozilla on FreeBSD 5.3, here what I did: > >Install jdk13 using the port and then I linksysed >/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so >to /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin.so but >unfortunately it still doesn't work. > >Any ideas as to why? > > Run mozilla from an xterm and see what output you get. It should tell you why it won't work. Is it listed in about:plugins? --------------enigAFF5601F292E07D259943622 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6XbSmcXjc1XBrAQRArinAJ48JEf24bRV+vsDXn+wk9MRldpERQCgvunH mFFsi/3k0LJ6ha/nzb9hj1s= =IQYU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAFF5601F292E07D259943622-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:01:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB7816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:01:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lon-mail-2.gradwell.net (lon-mail-2.gradwell.net [193.111.201.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B987D43D41 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:01:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from 82-39-75-228.cable.ubr02.jarr.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.39.75.228] helo=thor ident=fbsd$pop3*dgmm&net) 1.169) id 41e9769f.11c72.7; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:01:35 +0000 (envelope-sender ) From: Dave To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:01:35 +0000 Message-ID: <8btiu0ltv46cstiv7qthdrrsv2pmnmjfom@4ax.com> References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> <41E8F9EA.2030900@orchid.homeunix.org> In-Reply-To: <41E8F9EA.2030900@orchid.homeunix.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd01@dgmm.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:01:38 -0000 On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:09:30 +0100, you wrote: >> - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) > >I cannot comment on this but mplayer is supposed to do that. > His friend should try out FreesBie (live, bootable FreeBSD CD, no HDD install required). It has all of the required equivilents as well as avidemux2 which can do the DVD to AVI from a pointy/clicky window. Dave -- Dave Please address email replies to: [our favourite OS] AT dgmm DOT net For offlist replies please put FreeBSD in the subject line. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:05:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0B516A4CF for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:05:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B7843D53 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:05:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0FK5ej85841; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:05:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jim Durham" , Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:05:41 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200501151147.54192.durham@jcdurham.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:05:48 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jim Durham > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:48 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? > > > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on > FreeBSD..about 8 > servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. > > Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers > there, but the > signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for > IT-oriented information > regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented > for an office/LAN > environment. > > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup > devoted to IT on > FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on > freebsd.org. > Have you seen my book and website? http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com It is out of print now but still available on Amazon. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:11:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5E116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABD943D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 96A1C14BDBF; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:11:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B6F14BD00; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:10:49 +0100 (CET) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0FKAnUn014302; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:10:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:10:49 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: <20050115201049.GG786@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <82.1f965f59.2f1acf0d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82.1f965f59.2f1acf0d@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pastinakel.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kris' World X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:11:02 -0000 --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You know, I've never even seen anyone come close to this absurd display of self-proclaimed godliness. If you have so much clue, please go *FIX* something instead of ranting about it. I also don't know how you manage to change your email adresses, but I'd really like you to get out of my sight. Just like the last four times you've gotten in my killfile, where people that are clearly only posting unconstructively end up. If you don't care whether people do or do not read your messages, please refrain from changing email adresses again. You may be able to *save* some people some grief, instead of causing it. This might appeal to you. I honestly don't know if it does though. --Stijn On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 02:54:53PM -0500, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Welcome back to my killfile (although I doubt you'll stay there long > > because of your desperate need to hear your own voice). > > > > Kris > > > >Now, I understand his/her/it's words are harsh, but is killing them=20 > >really a fair alternative? Well, I guess I can see your point. =20 > >:grabs pitchfork:: >=20 >=20 > Kris is a loser. He ridicules and blocks people because he doesn't=20 > have the technical knowledge to address the questions. Im sure > he doesn't understand anyway, so who cares if he reads my > messages or not? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6XjIY3r/tLQmfWcRAjs6AJ9Vr+CJy1Uqm/s0wKEcWsrRZk8FtgCgkCV6 EPEnRqh81+nEWYg4FXyzevg= =YqTw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:12:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6467016A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:12:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F50743D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:12:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@mindling.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (adsl-64-142-39-120.sonic.net [64.142.39.120] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FKCYVi009824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:12:35 -0800 Message-ID: <41E979F5.3020000@mindling.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:15:49 -0800 From: "list@mindling.com" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501151147.54192.durham@jcdurham.com> In-Reply-To: <200501151147.54192.durham@jcdurham.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:12:35 -0000 Jim Durham wrote: > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 > servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more. <...> > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on > FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on > freebsd.org. I'm not really understanding the distinction that you're looking for. For FreeBSD-specific technical discussions, this is the place. Applications of course have their own lists, which are obviously more appropriate for application-specific questions. For broader discussions, perhaps regarding best practices in system administration, commercial backup recommendations, etc, I find SAGE (the System Administrators Guild) to be an extremely valuable resource. The community seems roughly split between the educational and corporate sectors, with a very high level of signal. The topics covered on the SAGE mailing list are of high relevance to the profession and practices of system administrators, especially for someone with a network such as yours. http://www.sage.org Cheers, Sebastian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:21:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E4E16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:21:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61003.mail.yahoo.com (web61003.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D28A43D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:21:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edu07643@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 14867 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2005 20:21:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20050115202146.14865.qmail@web61003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.86.20.47] by web61003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:21:46 ART Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:21:46 -0300 (ART) From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: Kris Maglione , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41E976D2.5040304@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:21:47 -0000 --- Kris Maglione escreveu: > E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > >I'm having trouble in getting the java plugin to > work > >with mozilla on FreeBSD 5.3, here what I did: > > > >Install jdk13 using the port and then I linksysed > >/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so > >to /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin.so > but > >unfortunately it still doesn't work. > > > >Any ideas as to why? > > > > > Run mozilla from an xterm and see what output you > get. It should tell > you why it won't work. > Is it listed in about:plugins? > No it's not listed there, here's what I get when I run from terminal: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so [/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: Undefined symbol "_ZTV16nsQueryInterface"] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so [/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: Undefined symbol "_ZTV16nsQueryInterface"] __________________________________________________ Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:27:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCFD16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:27:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl (smtp1.versatel.nl [62.58.50.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9DB43D39 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:27:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 23391 invoked by uid 10); 15 Jan 2005 20:27:55 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 23370-F60DCABA invoked from network) 15 Jan 2005 21:27:55 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 15 Jan 2005 20:27:55 -0000 Message-ID: <41E98ACA.5020402@zonnet.nl> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:27:38 +0000 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041109) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.52; host: postbode01.zonnet.nl) Subject: problem compiling OpenOffice-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:27:57 -0000 I tried compiling openoffice 2.0, everything is going fine until this point: ============= Building project cli_ure ============= deliver -- version: 1.77 Statistics: Files copied: 0 Files unchanged/not matching: 7 ============= Building project bridges ============= /home/oo.o/work/bridges/unotypes ------------- /home/oo.o/work/bridges/source/cpp_uno/gcc3_freebsd_intel dmake: Error -- `../../../unxfbsd.pro/slb/cpp_uno_shared.lib' not found, and can't be made '---* tg_merge.mk *---' ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making /home/oo.o/work/bridges/source/cpp_uno/gcc3_freebsd_intel dmake: Error code 1, while making 'instsetoo_native/prj/build_all' *** Error code 255 Stop in /home/oo.o. PC1# '---* tg_merge.mk *---' I copied /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-2.0-devel/ to /home because of a lack of free hard disk space on / by the way. anyone an Idea what I should do to fix this ? Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7001816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:36:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097FF43D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:36:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so88811rna for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:36:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=pvfISNdNUrygLPFfWOq5BJPfaje81ZOxORYcZIE0oW2IekgSZ3wSxfgEHseIL9AzykUlAm99FXDYW2WmlBIq4ZPV6Wp95rVMLijX+3d4jX05M8GBYr7CvHkLRUBd8d9sw4+1degS02uZEC2xqGIqvUEXEhvAzm9IJlvl4rwsb2c= Received: by 10.38.9.34 with SMTP id 34mr27452rni; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Firebox ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 63sm3301rna.2005.01.15.12.36.45; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:36:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:06:30 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C4FB6F.FDA24BB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcT7QePNkfUTnwGvQMazYXmhlNipCA== Message-ID: <41e97ede.65d997b4.13e7.0051@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: Growing out a second head X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:36:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C4FB6F.FDA24BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, I am running FBSD 5.3-R amd64 on a AMD 3000+ with a nVidia GeForce Fx 5700LE (256M) card plugged into the AGP slot. Two monitors are fixed to the card. One goes in the normal VGA slot, the other goes into the DVI slot via a VGA-DVI converter. I have been trying to get Xorg running on this setup. However I have not been successful so far. The "nvidia" driver supports dual headed setups. But it is only limited to the i386 platform. Anyone would please help me out by suggesting how to setup "Twinview" with the "nv" driver? Any pointers would be welcome. Thanks and best Regards, S. 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Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4102413B8D4; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:40:23 +0100 (CET) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0FKeMTH014528; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:40:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:40:22 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Subhro Message-ID: <20050115204022.GH786@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , Subhro , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41e97ede.65d997b4.13e7.0051@smtp.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fXStkuK2IQBfcDe+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41e97ede.65d997b4.13e7.0051@smtp.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Growing out a second head X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:40:25 -0000 --fXStkuK2IQBfcDe+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 02:06:30AM +0530, Subhro wrote: > I am running FBSD 5.3-R amd64 on a AMD 3000+ with a nVidia GeForce Fx 570= 0LE > (256M) card plugged into the AGP slot. Two monitors are fixed to the card. > One goes in the normal VGA slot, the other goes into the DVI slot via a > VGA-DVI converter. I have been trying to get Xorg running on this setup. > However I have not been successful so far. The "nvidia" driver supports d= ual > headed setups. But it is only limited to the i386 platform. Anyone would > please help me out by suggesting how to setup "Twinview" with the "nv" > driver? Any pointers would be welcome. My experience with setting up a dual-head nVidia FX 5200 last week was that I really needed the binary driver -- the open source 'nv' one just gave me messed up blinking colors on the second head. I don't know if that's really all that is available, just relating my experience here. --Stijn --=20 If today is the first day of the rest of your life, what the hell was yesterday? --fXStkuK2IQBfcDe+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6X+2Y3r/tLQmfWcRAr2sAKCG84oAru+5Z92gfuL28WFmH4Q4NQCgkBIy lLnNfNEbNEoBAqhYB7PciMQ= =2llg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fXStkuK2IQBfcDe+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:45:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FE816A53D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:45:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from birch.viviotech.net (mail.hitsforhits.com [207.108.53.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3CA43D1F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:45:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordan@viviotech.net) Received: (qmail 14815 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 21:03:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.100?) (jordan@viviotech.net@68.185.43.88) by birch.viviotech.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 21:03:59 -0000 Message-ID: <41E980D7.8070102@viviotech.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:45:11 -0800 From: Jordan Michaels User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <41E98ACA.5020402@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <41E98ACA.5020402@zonnet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Status: CLEAN X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on birch.viviotech.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK,RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.63 Subject: FreeBSD 4.9 Still available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:45:12 -0000 Anyone know where I can grab an iso of 4.9? I need that particular distro for a project that I'm working on. All I see on the mirror sites is 4.10 and up. Help? Thanks! -Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:46:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F61516A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:46:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47ED43D49 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:46:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so180966rne for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:46:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=iGEfVKyIhN7kYFSGx0xnWEyA9Jag/hcDAXnmcSEq/eVzauBmxxJtxuleviXIHIOpGNz9IAafOxS6b64Zn9OiDTKO6KwovFTWrZXnWb4SyQCBaCYQWZ2jNcPVVKSVs/b7/l/5uljEllxfrizwDxWwAbOotwDauL63M+EctWFCRNs= Received: by 10.38.150.76 with SMTP id x76mr114438rnd; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from Firebox ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 70sm254rnc.2005.01.15.12.46.33; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:46:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Stijn Hoop'" Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:16:18 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4FB71.5C4E0630" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050115204022.GH786@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcT7QnFFQoqpQ/tySsyTWF8zHGE4agAAI3Mg Message-ID: <41e9812b.5471328c.2c5e.0005@smtp.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Growing out a second head X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:46:36 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4FB71.5C4E0630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Stijn Hoop [mailto:stijn@win.tue.nl] > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:10 > To: Subhro > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Growing out a second head > > Hi, > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 02:06:30AM +0530, Subhro wrote: > > I am running FBSD 5.3-R amd64 on a AMD 3000+ with a nVidia GeForce Fx > 5700LE > > (256M) card plugged into the AGP slot. Two monitors are fixed to the > card. > > One goes in the normal VGA slot, the other goes into the DVI slot via a > > VGA-DVI converter. I have been trying to get Xorg running on this setup. > > However I have not been successful so far. The "nvidia" driver supports > dual > > headed setups. But it is only limited to the i386 platform. Anyone would > > please help me out by suggesting how to setup "Twinview" with the "nv" > > driver? Any pointers would be welcome. > > My experience with setting up a dual-head nVidia FX 5200 last week was > that > I really needed the binary driver -- the open source 'nv' one just gave > me messed up blinking colors on the second head. > That's precisely the problem.... a messed up blinking second head :-S. If only nvdia driver team is fast enough to get on with the amd64 edition of nvidia for FreeBSD. They already have the linux editions for both amd64 and IA64 on their page. *sigh* Regards S. 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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Growing out a second head X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:51:36 -0000 --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 02:18:21AM +0530, Subhro wrote: > Is your box amd64? Whoops, sorry -- no it's i386 and I planned to put that information in my previous mail also... --Stijn --=20 "From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it." -- Groucho Marx --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6YJVY3r/tLQmfWcRAvz5AKCtegZuxl/4FtgctymiKmip0t3s7QCgtHYs I95syrd0lux5Kp0uHN/8MI8= =0agt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:57:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9512016A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:57:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web80503.mail.yahoo.com (web80503.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.79.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AFBA43D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:57:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b1smooth@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20050115205702.77096.qmail@web80503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.218.158.200] by web80503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:57:02 PST Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:57:02 -0800 (PST) From: "b1smooth@yahoo.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Cross Compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:57:02 -0000 I have compiled a FreeBSD custom kernel for a pc98 arch laptop on my i686 box. I was wondering how I could actually transfer the kernel to floppy so I can load it into my laptop. I tried to copy the kernel folder but it's full of symlinks and doesn't produce an actual kernel for me. is there anyone here who has experience with cross compiling kernels that can help me? I already did make and make depend...of course I can't install it on my i386 box because the architecture is totally different. How do I migrate the kernel ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:02:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FF116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:02:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D40943D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:02:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:02:01 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:02:00 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050115210200.GA15535@nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: makefile args overrule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:02:03 -0000 Is it possible to *overrule* the arguments from a Makefile in the ports? I know you can add some options in the pkgtools.conf (portupgrade), but I want to disable a lot of options in the Makefile of apache13 because I want to disable a lot of modules. Can I add the options I want to the pkgtools.conf to *overrule* the Makefile? -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:11:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985F016A4CF for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:11:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B998943D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:10:59 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=o+Q0nrhs=P6=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j0FLAw1x029900 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:10:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: domain of admin@asarian-host.net designates sender IP as SASL permitted sender) Message-Id: <200501152110.j0FLAwAq029890@asarian-host.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:10:58 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: jVw5bYC5260h5HPAJ71DCwpPu/62qrlOM3tg7jkgvIp3+gNif+MWF1dHUKLtdjIENsVIgCHFMXDjdZT6zPK+Lg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQemG4jFqW1BleBN9AQGx4Qf+K+56npl1ol3u7N8B3ZD0nInq9e+lEby1 dJyZGmiQzgjIV4nb0lUjRXPxnofxWcJLoFnrsM5SQ4FHtnxeYYIfooXVi54+FAif gzqLwG4Th5oc6ePzBedt0k0mujTuj7ciw3euMXqI9KkfvkUurXkZmt4orraiJ7Tj aqPfa1jgyRPtL3NLzwZlkD0s06uyA+y+/TplMPtWA11teOJcho5IgJSaH1DLlehh 5Z5xd+H+WU5VsfdZhu3IpLeXzY+PtL8QrFHPxbhpFs2ElMh9VzHoAkK0blZGIqNQ Nwp0q1XIB8CTiDOLST9VgkpKdaIuickBp3wJ+7j2z0EVHXeeLeFd2Q== =007f Subject: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:11:00 -0000 I just recompiled mod_php4 (4.3.10) for Apache 1.3.x on FreeBSD 4.10R. But all options are gone from the Makefile! It used to be I got this nice menu, giving me every option to compile extra stuff in; but that is completely gone now! How do I get it back?? Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:12:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5574316A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:12:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from birch.viviotech.net (mail.viviotech.net [207.108.53.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCE843D49 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordan@viviotech.net) Received: (qmail 15761 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 21:31:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.100?) (jordan@viviotech.net@68.185.43.88) by birch.viviotech.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 21:31:01 -0000 Message-ID: <41E9872A.5030505@viviotech.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:12:10 -0800 From: Jordan Michaels User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <41E98ACA.5020402@zonnet.nl> <41E980D7.8070102@viviotech.net> In-Reply-To: <41E980D7.8070102@viviotech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Status: CLEAN X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on birch.viviotech.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK,RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.63 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.9 Still available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:12:13 -0000 Okay, nevermind. LinuxISO.org still has 4.9 listed. Jordan Michaels wrote: > Anyone know where I can grab an iso of 4.9? I need that particular > distro for a project that I'm working on. All I see on the mirror > sites is 4.10 and up. Help? > > Thanks! > > -Jordan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:15:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E0B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7613143D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:15:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 7477091 for multiple; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:37:20 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:14:36 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Sergei Gnezdov Message-ID: <20050115151436.36df56ad@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 2, First 39, in=64, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:15:32 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:50:03 -0800 Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > Hi, > > I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows. Do you > know of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? > I might be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make > sure that I know about the options: > > Alternatives for: > > - MS Office XP. I don't think he has very complex documents. Texmacs, OpenOffice, KOffice, or AbiWord should all work nicely. > - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop. I am not convinced that he edits or creates > images. GIMP. > - WinRAR and WinZIP Several choices under ports/archivers. > - WinAMP XMMS or one of the many one in the ports. > - Virtual CD > - Some kind of CD Burner I suggest a combo of burncd, mkisofs, and mc. It is not really intuitive or whatever at first, but it works rather nice after reading the related mans. If you want something with a more traditional GUI, there are a few in the ports. > - Some DVD Player > - AC3filter Both MPlayer and Xine should handle AC3 with out problems. > - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this) MPlayer is great for this and there are a few DVD ripping programs in the portstree. Now if there only a nice front end to the win32 port. ^_^ http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:18:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932BF16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:18:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3392743D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:18:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 7421387 for multiple; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:35:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:17:21 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Xian Message-ID: <20050115151721.0db98c5c@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <200501151058.42031.ian@codepad.net> References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> <200501151058.42031.ian@codepad.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 45, in=94, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:18:18 -0000 On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:41 +0000 Xian wrote: > On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > > - WinAMP > Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP I am confused by this comment, I thought it looked like winamp and worked a lot like it under any system it ran on? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:21:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B9B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:21:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6455543D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:21:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 7477424 for multiple; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:43:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:20:58 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Frank Staals Message-ID: <20050115152058.0c3024b0@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <41E90D40.70000@zonnet.nl> References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> <41E8F9EA.2030900@orchid.homeunix.org> <41E90D40.70000@zonnet.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 39, in=65, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org cc: Sergei Gnezdov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:21:54 -0000 On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:32:00 +0000 Frank Staals wrote: > Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > > > > > > > > >>- Virtual CD > >> > >> > > > >don't know this software > > > > > > > Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just > like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with > FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660 Last I checked, it required a bit more... you have to use mdconfig to create a device entry in /dev for the file so you can point mount at it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:24:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB9F16A4CF for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:24:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29B1343D1D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:24:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 80334 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 21:24:06 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 21:24:06 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:23:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050115202146.14865.qmail@web61003.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050115202146.14865.qmail@web61003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501152224.05957.4711@chello.at> cc: "E. J. Cerejo" cc: Kris Maglione Subject: Re: Java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:24:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 January 2005 21:21, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > --- Kris Maglione escreveu: > > E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > >I'm having trouble in getting the java plugin to > > > > work > > > > >with mozilla on FreeBSD 5.3, here what I did: > > > > > >Install jdk13 using the port and then I linksysed > > > >/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so > > > > >to /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin.so > > > > but > > > > >unfortunately it still doesn't work. > > > > > >Any ideas as to why? > > > > Run mozilla from an xterm and see what output you > > get. It should tell > > you why it won't work. > > Is it listed in about:plugins? > > No it's not listed there, here's what I get when I run > from terminal: > > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library > /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so > [/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: > Undefined symbol "_ZTV16nsQueryInterface"] > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library > /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so > [/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: > Undefined symbol "_ZTV16nsQueryInterface"] This is a known issue. Install jdk-1.4.2 instead of jdk-1.3.1. http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.7/known-issues.html#java Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6Yn109WjGjvKU74RAoCGAJ4tkMR6gwCCvMz6eJNxxCQ8qdy6NACeJ9k2 tdJVL2SxpvFJuvOyXg2xOdY= =wK8t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:24:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D8816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:24:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B202A43D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:24:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (adsl-69-211-82-66.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.211.82.66]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D543217D014 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:24:19 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <65F6863C-66C2-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> References: <200501150605.j0F65Ket011697@mp.cs.niu.edu> <65F6863C-66C2-11D9-A44D-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:23:55 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: make "make" quieter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:24:27 -0000 On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:55 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: > -s looks promising (d'oh, checked make.conf settings but not man > page... far too late, must sleep) it's still too chatty. Configure makes a lot of noise. > Actually the redirect works well, esp. now that someone explained the > redirect (new to 'sudo' too) spoke too soon. it didn't work. I think it has something to do with zsh. Anyway, I decided that what I really wanted was a lot of the installs anyway, in some organized fashion, so I made a shell script, which works fine under 'sudo' Here it is in case anyone is curious TjL #!/bin/sh # # the purpose of this script is to suppress the output of # 'make install clean' and to log it to a file # NAME=`basename $0` LOG_DIR=/var/db/installs if [ ! -d "$LOG_DIR" ] then mkdir -p "$LOG_DIR" ||\ (echo "$NAME: FATAL cannot find or create $LOG_DIR" && exit 1) fi PWD_SAFE=`echo $PWD | sed 's#/#.#g; s#^.##g'` INSTALL_LOG="$LOG_DIR/$PWD_SAFE" # we touch the log. if it already exists, we don't care, we'll just append to it touch $INSTALL_LOG echo " --- $NAME: BEGINNING log of make install clean from $PWD which started at `date` " >> $INSTALL_LOG (make install clean 2>&1) >> $INSTALL_LOG EXITCODE="$?" echo " $NAME: END log of make install clean from $PWD which finished at `date` " >> $INSTALL_LOG if [ "$EXITCODE" = "0" ] then echo "$0: make install clean done from $PWD, logged to $INSTALL_LOG" else echo -n " NOTE: 'make install clean' finished in $PWD Logged to $INSTALL_LOG DID NOT EXIT CLEANLY: $EXITCODE " fi exit 0 # EOF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:31:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5625616A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:31:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79FC643D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:31:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 62092 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 21:31:25 -0000 Received: from batv-01-042.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.43) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 21:31:25 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050115152853.06b10c50@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:30:34 -0600 To: Jordan Michaels From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <41E980D7.8070102@viviotech.net> References: <41E98ACA.5020402@zonnet.nl> <41E98ACA.5020402@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.9 Still available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:31:28 -0000 At 14:45 1/15/2005, Jordan Michaels wrote: >Anyone know where I can grab an iso of 4.9? I need that particular=20 >distro for a project that I'm working on. All I see on the mirror sites=20 >is 4.10 and up. Help? ftp://ftp4.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.9-RELEASE OR: http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org/FBSDsites.php More info: http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:43:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C98A16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:43:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C2443D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:43:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (adsl-69-211-82-66.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.211.82.66]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D734D17D01C; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:43:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <41E980D7.8070102@viviotech.net> References: <41E98ACA.5020402@zonnet.nl> <41E980D7.8070102@viviotech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <63DF3648-673E-11D9-A288-000D93AD26C8@tntluoma.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:42:44 -0500 To: Jordan Michaels X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.9 Still available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:43:10 -0000 On Jan 15, 2005, at 3:45 PM, Jordan Michaels wrote: > Anyone know where I can grab an iso of 4.9? I need that particular > distro for a project that I'm working on. All I see on the mirror > sites is 4.10 and up. Help? Google + "freebsd 4.9 iso" gave me http://mirror.lnnu.edu.cn/01.ISO/08.bsd/0.FreeBSD/4.9/ about 3 hits from the top TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:52:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0362C16A4D1 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:52:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A0A43D54 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:52:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maarfree@xs4all.nl) Received: from webmail.xs4all.nl (webmail13.xs4all.nl [194.109.22.173]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FLq0VX075698 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:52:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from maarfree@xs4all.nl) Received: from 80.127.55.226 by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:56:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <15752.80.127.55.226.1105826198.squirrel@80.127.55.226> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:56:38 +0100 (CET) From: "Maarten" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: KDM, KDE 3.3 and xmodmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: maarfree@xs4all.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:52:03 -0000 Does anyone know how to configure KDM or KDE so that is uses xmodmap? The configuration is pretty much out of the box, 5.3. For some reason using "custom" from the KDM menu with .xsession: #!/bin/sh xmodmap -e 'keycode 203=F13' exec startkde Does start kde but ignores the xmodmap entry. If i do 'sh .xsession' after login xmodmap is processed and I get a message KDE is already running :-) Thanks, Maarten From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 21:55:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFA616A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:55:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFAA43D2D for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0FLttRZ033657; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:55:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0FLtt4V021521; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:55:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0FLttSu021520; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:55:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:55:55 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: dmehler26@woh.rr Message-ID: <20050115215554.GB20992@polands.org> References: <20050113025339.GC1218@polands.org> <000501c4fb42$7a526510$0400a8c0@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c4fb42$7a526510$0400a8c0@satellite> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:55:57 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 03:40:40PM -0500, dave wrote: > Hi, > Wondering if you ever got a fix for this issue? I'm doing an identical > action. > Yes, I did fix it. My detailed explaination was sent to questions@freebsd.org. Check it out: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/5a74c8f3573d7b9f/27e9c8b078e4755a?q=gmirror+i386&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmailing.freebsd.questions%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Dmailing.freebsd.questions%26q%3Dgmirror+i386%26qt_g%3D1%26searchnow%3DSearch+this+group%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#27e9c8b078e4755a Good luck, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 22:13:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A2E16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:13:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC3943D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:13:14 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=o+Q0nrhs=P6=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j0FMDD2v032395 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:13:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: domain of admin@asarian-host.net designates sender IP as SASL permitted sender) Message-Id: <200501152213.j0FMDCis032385@asarian-host.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:13:13 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: /eTFpaGdKn8kg1OJDtnw6d/V5RQ7CJpsm7kd/t+rux0xZdtLlq3JwC46ZfAy7lgIG197+H1aoqL1uYdZpnJfBA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <200501152111.j0FLBm8A029926@asarian-host.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQemVeTFqW1BleBN9AQGuXwf/Xr2pDX0n4zJ+ilLIjq34bnkiJb0Idyka I2Fh5o5rqM5ix8NNORh6iNX56xQvoQI6es86UiXQLBMbEIgKpz62zuC4Ozp8iS70 Q9VuGwLWcA5DGvoZYoJF318kZNDuR5dOY68U26b9Bg8Z+c1ki1NWS47vA+B+oCMg T8VdDISlY5LJVM2XZTDkpzI6y+2TnqIkIBuS6tI10MlOObyhNHl7wYD+MN6o8Isd OAJpGQYHt87ki1gkL6KRd4OciId0JAU9lLAS7ZAX4c6ZNPTpJ79aDK7Fk/5/VPUl +7B/dQ/3qH1R4Muh+tNNNOVkEyBAf30wG5jTJXjhyZXInTiXJLySuA== =Yw2J Subject: RE: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:13:15 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark [mailto:admin@asarian-host.net] > Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 22:12 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: mod_ph4 > > I just recompiled mod_php4 (4.3.10) for Apache 1.3.x on > FreeBSD 4.10R. But all options are gone from the Makefile! > It used to be I got this nice menu, giving me every option > to compile extra stuff in; but that is completely gone now! > How do I get it back?? Ok, I found /ports/lang/php4-extensions. Great! Except, it will not compile anything! How do I get this meta thingy to compile at all? Sigh. The old php4 install was working just fine; now it is all messed up. :( - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 22:27:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EB816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:27:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0123243D49 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:27:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580F0BD58A; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:26:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A98317C1F; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:26:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:26:55 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 74732-04; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:26:55 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FCF17B56; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:26:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E998AA.5090009@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:26:50 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark References: <200501152213.j0FMDCis032385@asarian-host.net> In-Reply-To: <200501152213.j0FMDCis032385@asarian-host.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:27:02 -0000 did you type 'make config' just within the /ports/lang/php4-extensions directory? You should get a menu where you can select/deselect various compile options ... Mark schrieb: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark [mailto:admin@asarian-host.net] >>Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 22:12 >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: mod_ph4 >> >>I just recompiled mod_php4 (4.3.10) for Apache 1.3.x on >>FreeBSD 4.10R. But all options are gone from the Makefile! >>It used to be I got this nice menu, giving me every option >>to compile extra stuff in; but that is completely gone now! >>How do I get it back?? > > > Ok, I found /ports/lang/php4-extensions. Great! Except, > it will not compile anything! How do I get this meta thingy > to compile at all? Sigh. The old php4 install was working just fine; > now it is all messed up. :( > > - Mark > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e995ae41286937921216! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 22:41:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889D116A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A4443D53 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050115224104012001073ue>; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 32428 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 22:41:03 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 22:41:03 -0000 Message-ID: <41E99D42.801@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:46:26 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> <41E8F9EA.2030900@orchid.homeunix.org> <41E90D40.70000@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <41E90D40.70000@zonnet.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:05 -0000 > Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like > alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : > man mount_cd9660 You can't directly mount iso files, you need to vn/mdconfig them first. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 22:45:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB2616A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B90043D39 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:09 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=o+Q0nrhs=P6=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j0FMj8YQ033782 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:45:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: domain of admin@asarian-host.net designates sender IP as SASL permitted sender) Message-Id: <200501152245.j0FMj8mm033772@asarian-host.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:08 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: lomwbnDhY55ACkSKSSwpZznooBUVvjmk0a/bpqLJw2KWK9Mq/xtQ7xKZd6Y3ZlyKY7gPm0haNqQPONYJL+cPnw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'Daniel S. Haischt'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <41E998AA.5090009@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQemc9DFqW1BleBN9AQG01Qf/Xr2g4cVJf27+3gkLcBKUqCM1eWDj0Tt3 fiGJxiWGZiER47xmnUidgGKwckCEraH7JQl7chvviRwLtXxQrYQ09Kx+0kWTsGut vPtj1LsPi92rIyuMd03wQF69yzP9+aZR/FoEcZDikfG6h48EUByVHSjbKAxZj1Kq UnoWO3hWAN1ITARLbf/GpudE5YrAYaImf8ScAVNiTU6bL9a97vQZL98WDmxBtY95 JpxXY9pka61CPN5GrfR43zZi6WcSpgRrZ9VrDOZUb5JMA+3Hdn7pyrFzCCnTvZ6J +FbqVQTpKDFsTSx8RLdX2AtzcIWw/runXh+gKPq6dntuUk11gVUpFg== =8Jk+ cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:10 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:me@stefan.haischt.name] > Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:27 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mod_ph4 > > did you type 'make config' just within the > /ports/lang/php4-extensions directory? > > You should get a menu where you can > select/deselect various compile options ... Yes, I did that. After I selected the options, the make just exits, but does not start a compile. :( - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 22:48:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127F816A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:48:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DEA43D31 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:48:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB13BD5C7; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:48:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id CE65717C27; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:48:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:48:17 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 83671-04; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:48:17 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6AE17C21; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:48:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E99DAF.8070000@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:48:15 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark References: <200501152245.j0FMj8mm033772@asarian-host.net> In-Reply-To: <200501152245.j0FMj8mm033772@asarian-host.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:48:20 -0000 This is the complete sequence: make config && make install (dist)clean Did you type make install etc. after make config? I did install php5 the same way and it should work. Mark schrieb: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:me@stefan.haischt.name] >>Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:27 >>To: Mark >>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: mod_ph4 >> >>did you type 'make config' just within the >>/ports/lang/php4-extensions directory? >> >>You should get a menu where you can >>select/deselect various compile options ... > > > Yes, I did that. After I selected the options, > the make just exits, but does not start a compile. :( > > - Mark > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41e99d22196103295897930! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? 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Haischt'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <41E99DAF.8070000@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQemgOzFqW1BleBN9AQGK7Af7BM+IUn2vCTeyHdErlc4Y41W98JhqXlBa L+1Zl4OwGoAkPiRFVKJts7Zm0PBOgtMzloqAte/vbCj0ekSe8ubq3xWqdREtavVv Pz+Gntxg3yZaRi4RDayk6CsGsex7+KNq8sYynOzwk/0+mukhDsWHFqzI5bDbkX58 dTWOduMnlus4XzCmpbLbk4J8fALFqPUJj8K8lddpTV0gQwgi4wnqgeO8gsx/4btN 3YLbD4JB+e279dMWnsoMgPNRLKfje3dwRwhE6P+97MkxNSlzmKw+5EuVN3BqI9gV Xv9ju9KGQAmtOnHoD7Fq8oD9OcEzKf+oR2r3G1jeSOij+IVz/I422w== =wbNg cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:59:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:me@stefan.haischt.name] > Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:48 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mod_ph4 > > This is the complete sequence: > > make config && make install (dist)clean > > Did you type make install etc. after make config? Yes, I did all those things; but I get errors all over the place: ------------------------------------------------- % make install ===> Installing for php4-extensions-1.0 ===> php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found ===> php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so in /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2 ===> Vulnerability check disabled ===> Extracting for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 >> Checksum OK for php-4.3.10.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on executable: phpize - found ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/automake in /usr/ports/devel/automake >> No directory for /usr/local/bin/automake. Skipping.. ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf in /usr/ports/devel/autoconf >> No directory for /usr/local/bin/autoconf. Skipping.. ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/libexec/libtool13/libtool - found ===> PHPizing for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 aclocal15: not found *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2. *** Error code 1 ------------------------------------------------- Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 23:04:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFAC16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:04:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F2243D48 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:04:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF962BD567; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:04:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id C22FF17C2D; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:04:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:04:33 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 12763-03; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:04:33 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00BF17C27; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:04:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E9A17E.7010705@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:04:30 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark References: <200501152259.j0FMx7U4034234@asarian-host.net> In-Reply-To: <200501152259.j0FMx7U4034234@asarian-host.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "'Daniel S. Haischt'" Subject: Re: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:04:37 -0000 First of all check whether automake/autoconf are in your PATH. e.g. # > which automake # > which automake If you are getting no results check whether autoconf/automake are installed: # > pkg_info | grep autoconf # > pkg_info | grep automake Also check your PATH variable ... # > env | grep PATH /usr/local/bin should contained in your PATH variable. Mark schrieb: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:me@stefan.haischt.name] >>Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:48 >>To: Mark >>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: mod_ph4 >> >>This is the complete sequence: >> >>make config && make install (dist)clean >> >>Did you type make install etc. after make config? > > > Yes, I did all those things; but I get errors all over the place: > > ------------------------------------------------- > % make install > ===> Installing for php4-extensions-1.0 > ===> php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file: > /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found > ===> php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so in > /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2 > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > ===> Extracting for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 > >>>Checksum OK for php-4.3.10.tar.bz2. > > ===> Patching for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 > ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on executable: phpize - found > ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/automake in > /usr/ports/devel/automake > >> No directory for /usr/local/bin/automake. Skipping.. > ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf in > /usr/ports/devel/autoconf > >> No directory for /usr/local/bin/autoconf. Skipping.. > ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libexec/libtool13/libtool - found > ===> PHPizing for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 > aclocal15: not found > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2. > *** Error code 1 > ------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks, > > - Mark > > > !DSPAM:41e9a042259954368969750! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 23:10:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968DD16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:10:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DE543D55 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50CABD567; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id E0AC017C2F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:09 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 74732-08; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:09 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EF717C27; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E9A2CE.2080006@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:06 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark References: <200501152259.j0FMx7U4034234@asarian-host.net> <41E9A17E.7010705@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> In-Reply-To: <41E9A17E.7010705@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:10:12 -0000 btw, try to install the autoconf/automake ports first before php4. Is this your first port that you are installing on your system? I am wondering because the auto tools are missing ... Daniel S. Haischt schrieb: > First of all check whether automake/autoconf > are in your PATH. e.g. > > # > which automake > # > which automake > > If you are getting no results check whether > autoconf/automake are installed: > > # > pkg_info | grep autoconf > # > pkg_info | grep automake > > Also check your PATH variable ... > > # > env | grep PATH > > /usr/local/bin should contained in your PATH > variable. > > Mark schrieb: > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:me@stefan.haischt.name] Sent: >>> zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:48 >>> To: Mark >>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: mod_ph4 >>> >>> This is the complete sequence: >>> >>> make config && make install (dist)clean >>> >>> Did you type make install etc. after make config? >> >> >> >> Yes, I did all those things; but I get errors all over the place: >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> % make install >> ===> Installing for php4-extensions-1.0 >> ===> php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file: >> /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found >> ===> php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file: >> /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so - not found >> ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so in >> /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2 >> ===> Vulnerability check disabled >> ===> Extracting for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 >> >>>> Checksum OK for php-4.3.10.tar.bz2. >> >> >> ===> Patching for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 >> ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on executable: phpize - found >> ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake - not >> found >> ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/automake in >> /usr/ports/devel/automake >> >> No directory for /usr/local/bin/automake. Skipping.. >> ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf - not >> found >> ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf in >> /usr/ports/devel/autoconf >> >> No directory for /usr/local/bin/autoconf. Skipping.. >> ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: >> /usr/local/libexec/libtool13/libtool - found >> ===> PHPizing for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 >> aclocal15: not found >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2. >> *** Error code 1 >> ------------------------------------------------- >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Mark >> >> >> >> >> > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 23:23:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61F716A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:23:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC18943D31 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:23:01 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=o+Q0nrhs=P6=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j0FNN0lI035022 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:23:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: domain of admin@asarian-host.net designates sender IP as SASL permitted sender) Message-Id: <200501152323.j0FNN0u0035012@asarian-host.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:23:00 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: ga4bdRbz4pTl7qf5C2tk0cb84Wy4TLGHXmt/BpGqThOF68kfte6ogLZ4vMXRryGBB5c+rmqLL34NJ6eUZeAIRQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'Daniel S. Haischt'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <41E9A2CE.2080006@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQeml1DFqW1BleBN9AQH5SAf+PCW7bLtwyRC1lDUNxxev7jI49eqGB4q8 WkH6KtiZN8tuOqcAfTNUlUhZzRWgKIiQdGNOOSgmLBYb8XpQ6aiX9xbmS7MF3hm+ o0XYEoiMG9fm9kzYy+AJacjVSxDyOTp/uxISqlyLvu4uLCSUY2Qh9v7uDs4o4qD1 OX6hxP8hd/TkA0SzKCzn4+hiz917/CFzyZqmyHtQe7lvF568CvTdwHaj0hyhgAze 25EHQFAfp/J4rB+eM48EBZyUtFy9hVSl+FF+OmR6F+DJwA1eoQs8i0LTfzxkpfPS LbC+1Ma3xERIELQxUnw1e6MJTGIBz/ITd2XkioZ/j5BLaCfZ0BSbPw== =4AuI cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mod_ph4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:23:02 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:me@stefan.haischt.name] > Sent: zondag 16 januari 2005 0:10 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mod_ph4 > > btw, try to install the autoconf/automake > ports first before php4. > > Is this your first port that you are installing > on your system? I am wondering because the auto > tools are missing ... Nope, installed zillion of packages. :) automake + autoconf indeed seem to be missing. Or rather, they are in different locations (like /usr/local/libexec/autoconf259/autoconf). Ok, so I made a few symlinks, and now I get this: % make install ===> Vulnerability check disabled ===> Found saved configuration for php4-extensions-1.0 ===> Extracting for php4-extensions-1.0 ===> Patching for php4-extensions-1.0 ===> Configuring for php4-extensions-1.0 ===> Installing for php4-extensions-1.0 ===> php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found ===> php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so in /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2 ===> Vulnerability check disabled ===> Extracting for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 >> Checksum OK for php-4.3.10.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on executable: phpize - found ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake - found ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf - found ===> php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/libexec/libtool13/libtool - found ===> PHPizing for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 aclocal15: not found *** Error code 1 Stop in /backup/ports/archivers/php4-bz2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /backup/ports/lang/php4-extensions. Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 23:54:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031CB16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:54:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D6143D3F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:54:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2D1FD01F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E9AD3A.6050209@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:34 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryce Kahle References: <24CF3A7650B276458F0A28E49AF18EBE015FBE@binary.exchange.binary.net> In-Reply-To: <24CF3A7650B276458F0A28E49AF18EBE015FBE@binary.exchange.binary.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS file locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:54:39 -0000 Bryce Kahle wrote: > I've been researching NFS and its file locking capabilities on FreeBSD > and I can't seem to find the answer to my question, so I thought I would > ask it here. > > In this document > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-post.h > tml#NETWORK-CONFIGURATION-CONT > > It mentions this: > "The next option listed here is the rpc.lockd option, which, when > selected, will provide file locking services. This is usually used with > rpc.statd to monitor what hosts are requesting locks and how frequently > they request them. While these last two options are marvelous for > debugging, they are not required for NFS servers and clients to operate > correctly." > > Is rpc.lockd required for fcntl() style locking to work correctly? NFS in it self does not provide any filelocking mechanisms. Your only option is to rely on lockd. lockd needs statd to start correctly. I think that lockd makes filelocking work among other nfs clients but I don't know if the server will respect this kind of filelocking or if it is interpreted as fcntl style locking. I hope this answers half your question :-) cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2