From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 00:32:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B143A16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:32:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info (papendorf-se.de [217.160.222.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5436943D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:32:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nagilum.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD3A2F4118; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p15140542 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04073-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net (unknown [217.188.224.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7A52F4117; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E6F3028A5; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cakebox.tis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35732-07; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.1.4] (scorpio.tis [10.1.1.4]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D423038C0; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:28:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E98AF3.1060002@nagilum.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:28:19 +0100 From: Nagilum User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Macintosh/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsduser@comcast.net References: <010720051740.20483.41DEC977000C17EA0000500322070009539C0201079B010307020E@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <010720051740.20483.41DEC977000C17EA0000500322070009539C0201079B010307020E@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cakebox.homeunix.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at papendorf-se.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network monitoring software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:32:01 -0000 Try: systat -if for a start, regards, Alex. freebsduser@comcast.net wrote: >Hiya folks, I'm looking for some network monitoring software. I've tried zabbix and jffnms but neither of them functioned after being configured or installing. > >If anybody has any success stories I would like to hear about any of them so I can look at other packages in ports net and net-mgmt. > >Thanks. > >~Kris >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 01:15:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F19216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:15:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4A543D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:15:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0G1EW7e022183; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:14:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E9BE2F.3080707@scii.nl> References: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> <41E880A9.7010909@scii.nl> <72218405-66A0-11D9-8A15-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <41E9BE2F.3080707@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-829362600" Message-Id: <0977D2B4-675C-11D9-8352-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:14:57 -0600 To: albi X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:15:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-829362600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 15, 2005, at 7:06 PM, albi wrote: > Eric F Crist wrote: > > hi, > >>> afair squirrelmail depends on Maildir-format mailboxes >>> >>> if you really want to use the UW-imap (i don't, i'm happily using >>> courier-imap and squirrelmail since years), then try a webmail >>> solution >>> that works with mbox-format, i think neomail and openwebmail are some >>> alternatives >> Actually, I believe squirrelmail just depends on an imap server. > > first i thought you were right, and i though i'm some years behind (i > read that squirrelmail depended on imap some years ago), maybe > squirrelmail has changed, > > i looked up the requirements on the squirrelmail-page and saw that you > were right, uw-imap is in the list of required imap-servers, however, > i just read that uw-imap can do imap, and ... > i know that converting mbox to maildir can be a lot of work, but if i > were you i would test with a mbox-based webmail-solution, or... simply > try the imap directly with a mailclient which supports imap and/or > imap-ssl > >> I don't think it cares what (imap-uw is supported). My issue resides >> with the plain-text password issue. As per instructions, I've >> recompiled imap-uw to allow plain-text, or so I thought, and I still >> get the errors. I followed these instructions: >> http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/en_US/UWLoginDisabled and I'm >> concerned with these messages in /var/log/auth.log: >> Jan 14 20:15:20 grog imapd[19134]: Login disabled user=user auth=user >> host=localhost [127.0.0.1] > > i have no idea, but i know one thing for sure, the error-message is > -not - always showing the exact error > > error-messages are limited to what the programmer(s) made it to act > like > > for example, i'm setting up a ftp-server, and in a bootup-script i had > chmod 700 /home/ and i set /home/ftp to be the ftp-server base-dir > from the log-files i could not find out that the permissions where > wrong, it simply showed login-errors, and gave time-outs > > do you get my point ? i'm trying to say that perhaps squirrelmail > still demands a maildir-based imap-server (i don't know whether that's > true, google could not give me an answer to that within a reasonable > time) > > anyway, i hope you get it working soonish! > > good luck! > > ciao, > albi Actually, I know the error is correct. Actually, I know what I need to do to fix this problem, it's just not working for me... I've posted a couple links that direct me in various ways regarding this error, but my server won't accept plain-text logins. Can't figure out how to get it to do so. thanks for your help _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-829362600 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHpwBEACgkQRAAY9knOW+ozGwCfTVfDIhjS0L9tDFQ2IJxnny7g /UYAoIytKPr5Vb092m5GdbG88u4FDB/m =xtAf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-829362600-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 01:31:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA5F16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB19443D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0G1USeS022543; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:30:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E98AF3.1060002@nagilum.org> References: <010720051740.20483.41DEC977000C17EA0000500322070009539C0201079B010307020E@comcast.net> <41E98AF3.1060002@nagilum.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-830319351" Message-Id: <43BC6BF3-675E-11D9-8352-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:30:54 -0600 To: Nagilum X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network monitoring software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:06 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3-830319351 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 15, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Nagilum wrote: > Try: > systat -if > for a start, regards, > Alex. > > freebsduser@comcast.net wrote: > >> Hiya folks, I'm looking for some network monitoring software. I've >> tried zabbix and jffnms but neither of them functioned after being >> configured or installing. >> >> If anybody has any success stories I would like to hear about any of >> them so I can look at other packages in ports net and net-mgmt. >> >> Thanks. >> >> ~Kris Kris, You aren't being very specific as to what type of monitoring you want to do. There are utilities out there such as portsentry which monitor for specific types of activity, and utilities like ethereal that sniff network packets. Perhaps more information from you would be beneficial. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-3-830319351 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHpw84ACgkQRAAY9knOW+ppJgCggefVnIdE2i0cHgAxGCZsMU7v Wo4An2WHzUh8j4OJory48sC5aOambDyK =LOJ/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-3-830319351-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:06:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D522316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:06:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D2C43D3F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:06:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G36Hs20168 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:06:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:06:17 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:06:20 -0000 OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless that's the only way to get a viable JRE. Can someone point me in the right direction??? -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:13:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C45316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADFD43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:42 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=mh065Mvm=P7=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j0G3DfG1043362 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:13:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: domain of admin@asarian-host.net designates sender IP as SASL permitted sender) Message-Id: <200501160313.j0G3Df1s043334@asarian-host.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:41 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: rgfW7Zo23ANWRbZn7aEADcpqTdzvINBd6eSHupAUqnUXlLLzu4QsPSuwz8ulgJaY7/wE7jXRoe/bg3VGtlWIzw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'Daniel S. Haischt'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <41E9A2CE.2080006@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQenb5TFqW1BleBN9AQEmJggAiPhor+6vto1taefkC3zdduqUkx4AbDCd qph6jbpm6dyMZVk9ayToOz+gkxA6MDlbySjuasgIqCmtZ4B4uf2QL8V6jviMcv63 8rvuxBF/ZFgkxD6g102uayPxczHdaVAp84I4RrCzySykUVOqAR6PTw9Hbt7pI4TW zT2YJwWaCG/DUErVenovM2DrfqmrFzugKuYqKgcvBClJWsGwHKOLbxvK1ii1AF7d ns2+1Vw65YYU4v8KF9HwlxQ+2iljUJm5UFGGN6WYAK65OdHJYxlasj0EPfYmuL2c SuwCIiF8Urv50QALoc8xpOTB5Bhpgc/0XjqoFa/eUhpvFQMwNBBATA== =v9mL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SOLVED (was RE: mod_ph4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:43 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:me@stefan.haischt.name] > Sent: zondag 16 januari 2005 0:10 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mod_ph4 > > btw, try to install the autoconf/automake > ports first before php4. All is well again. :) For some bizarre reason my bsd.port.mk had become corrupted. No wonder nothing worked. Now everything compiled smoothly again. :) Thanks for the help, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:23:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA4216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:23:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C56943D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:23:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G3Nre20232; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:23:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:23:53 -0600 From: John To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050115212353.A20171@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501141332.03416.algould@datawok.com> <20050114141204.A10926@starfire.mn.org> <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com>; from algould@datawok.com on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:34:26PM -0600 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:23:57 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:34:26PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2005 02:12 pm, John wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:32:03PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > > On Friday 14 January 2005 12:23 pm, John wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:19:20PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst > wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > > > > >3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 > > > > > > rather than 5.2.1. > > > > > > > > > > Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3, > > > > > which basically worked okay. > > > > > Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the > > > > > other hand... > > > > > > > > Yes, I would say that the source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3-STABLE > > > > was fine, it was the xorg/XFree86 and kde issues that made me > > > > insane. It's possible that I should have just done a pkg_delete > > > > -a and started over with the packages from that point, but I also > > > > need to learn to use pkg_upgrade. I would not hesitate to do the > > > > source upgrade again for a system which is NOT running X. > > > > > > > > I have now reinstalled 5.3, just to get around the Xorg->XFree86 > > > > issue, and I have kde installed, and I have room to spare. So, > > > > I'm much farther than I was when I ran out of room, and I still > > > > have room. This is a good thing! > > > > > > Yes it is! (...and speaking as someone who is typing with 2 > > > fractured wrists, all good news is welcome!) > > > > Oh, no! I'd ask what happened, but I'll wait until you're healed > > up... > > Indoor soccer injury -- the floor is concrete. > > > > > > I hope you have lots of fun and joy with your system before the > > > next challenge (which we will gladly participate in) ! > > > > OK, well, it seems I spoke just a little bit too soon. Or, maybe I'm > > OK, but just worried. > > > > I downloaded and burned an ISO 5.3 CD. I did a minimal install, > > NFS mounted all the 5-stable packages I kept from the last time > > around (I'm not a COMPLETE idiot!) and simply did a "pkg_add > > kde-lite*". That got me a long, long ways. I also needed to do > > a "pkg_add xorg-server*" but I think nearly everything else got > > loaded up. I was in great shape in terms of disk footprint and > > everything else I can tell from here. > > > > Now, at this point, I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, but I've > > installed packages from FreeBSD 5-STABLE, but if my understanding > > is correct, that should be OK. > > > > This is the point at which things got interesting. I did the > > pkg_add for OOo - and found that I was missing four dependent > > packages. As luck would have it, all four of them have been > > updated since I started this process, so I downloaded and installed > > the newer revv'ed ones, but I got an error message that > > something (I wished I'd trapped the output) wanted libm.so.2. > > When I look around, I find that I have libm.so.3. The four > > packages were atk, pango, shared-mime-info, and gtk-2. I > > think one of the post-install scripts complained that it couldn't > > run something, > > > > Am I preparing trouble, or am I OK? Despite the warning, everything > > seems to be installing. Obviously, I wasn't able to install the > > newer packages as dependencies, but after installing them by hand, > > the things on which they depended seem to be installing OK, though > > with warnings. > > > > Anyway, I have everything installed, (except maybe a JDK - any > > suggestions?) and I'm at 80% in my combined root /usr partition, > > which feels a little tighter than I would like, but I do still have > > 270Mb free, so that's not too bad - that's larger than my first > > FreeBSD hard drive! :) > > > > OO just finished. Other than 16 packages that are newer than > > expected, it seems to have installed. I'm not actually with the > > machine, so I can't start X and kde and try it. > > > > Am I OK, or should I start over and redo something? > > If the package finished installing, everything may be okay (no > guarantees). Create a list of frequent tasks in OpenOffice; and run > OpenOffice through its paces. YIPPEE!!! Two more hurdles cleared, and I'm up and running! I learned two lessons: 1) Don't depend on dependencies 2) startx is still your friend With the first one, I was having X mess up my screen completely, and not having it be restored when I tried to return to my virtual terminal on doing an "X -configure xorg.config.new". Checking the log files revealed that the there mkfontdir wasn't loaded. I had done a "pkg_add kde-lite*" and expected it to take care of all the dependencies. That was not the case. Parts of x.org were loaded, but not all of it. That was quickly corrected by doing a "pkg_add xord-6.8*" of the meta package to get the rest of the pieces. The next one was really strange. kde would start, but in the middle of initializing, it would simply go away. Using startx to get things rolling, I captured the error message. Somehow, /tmp/.ICE was owned by my personal uid rather than root, which kde found unacceptable. Not sure how that happened. I certainly didn't create it by hand. I may have installed the package which created it when "su'ed" from my regular uid - I can't say for sure. Odd that it would have come into being that way. Or maybe when I first ran "startx" as myself. Dunno. Changed the ownership, and off it went. Now, I just have to figure out this DST thing so I can turn my power control stuff back on. Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I said, on other web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd. So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win 98. 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) a CD in my laptop multi-bay Those were all issues before my switch to 5.3. I have a functional laptop again! YAY! Thanks to all, especially you, Andrew, typing with your poor wrists! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:29:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106B316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:29:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f27.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA95943D3F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:29:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from street_chaman@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:29:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 82.252.44.138 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:28:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [82.252.44.138] X-Originating-Email: [street_chaman@hotmail.com] X-Sender: street_chaman@hotmail.com From: "Street Chaman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:28:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2005 03:29:00.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[85119E10:01C4FB7B] Subject: Hardware assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:29:01 -0000 hi everyone, i need low level hardware control over some devices (kbd, sound, display) in an assembly soft, and 'd like to know where i can find a list of ioctl_syscall supported parameters for each device. Furthermore, if someone knows some good (more complete than developpers-handbook) gas doc/sources, it would be a great help for me. Thanks a lot. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:38:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E7D16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:38:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEA043D4C for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:38:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G3arO20287; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:36:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:36:53 -0600 From: John To: Street Chaman Message-ID: <20050115213653.B20171@starfire.mn.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from street_chaman@hotmail.com on Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 03:28:18AM +0000 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:38:11 -0000 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 03:28:18AM +0000, Street Chaman wrote: > hi everyone, > > i need low level hardware control over some devices (kbd, sound, display) in > an assembly soft, and 'd like to know where i can find a list of > ioctl_syscall supported parameters for each device. > Furthermore, if someone knows some good (more complete than > developpers-handbook) gas doc/sources, it would be a great help for me. Well, Street, some may call this cheating, but it is probably worth your while to try it this way. Create empty routines in C to get your calling sequences down, then use the compiler to create the linkages for you (see the -S option). Then you can concentrate on your functionality, rather than trying to do the stack work that you need. If you are actually making ioctl or syscalls, then write the C for the ioctl into your framework and, again, let the compiler generate the linkages. If you actually want to make the syscalls directly, you should dig out the assembler source from the system sources of the libraries and use them as a template - just beware, the syscalls can CHANGE, which is one reason we always rebuild the "world" with the kernel. Part of the reason for using the standard libraries is to put a layer of abstraction between you and the basic OS calling sequence. Just my $0.02. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:40:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFDD16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:40:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA1A43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:40:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050116034040014000tsdne>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:40:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 71834 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 03:40:39 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 03:40:39 -0000 Message-ID: <41E9E374.1010004@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:56 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFB7BB490616033039E659166" Subject: Re: how to install samba with outdated port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:40:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFB7BB490616033039E659166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marty Landman wrote: > I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build && > make install using the latest version. You have three decent options: 1: CVSup your entire ports tree 2: CVS checkout just that port 3: Download that port as a tarball For three, you can find if at http://www.freebsd.org/ports Search for Samba and click the "download" link. Then, unzip in place of the previous samba directory. You can also try to cheat by editing the distinfo file and renaming the file to the version that you have, and editing the Makefile to that version too, but that's a bad idea, since any patches to the port are for the previous version. Sometimes, though, things like this are necessary for certain abandoned ports. --------------enigFB7BB490616033039E659166 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6eN6mcXjc1XBrAQRAmA6AJwPhOFc3lTvRlE5o9gZMmFLo/N/6QCeMNf5 kz05ulQBhk9P1bZQbBprnP8= =pOJi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFB7BB490616033039E659166-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:43:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7213C16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:43:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531CF43D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:43:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <200501160343440140013ap4e>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:43:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 72207 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 03:43:44 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 03:43:44 -0000 Message-ID: <41E9E433.4000009@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:49:07 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050115210200.GA15535@nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050115210200.GA15535@nagual.st> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5672B173FD9E2ED56B96A587" Subject: Re: makefile args overrule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:43:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5672B173FD9E2ED56B96A587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dick hoogendijk wrote: >Is it possible to *overrule* the arguments from a Makefile in the ports? >I know you can add some options in the pkgtools.conf (portupgrade), but >I want to disable a lot of options in the Makefile of apache13 because I >want to disable a lot of modules. Can I add the options I want to the >pkgtools.conf to *overrule* the Makefile? > > When you get a menu prompt to select options, all that it does is set make variables. You can see them in the /var/db//options file, or you can see what they are in the Makefile. Either way, you can specify them on the command line as = or in pkgtools.conf the same way. You're probably better off editing the options file or removing it and running "make config" on the port. --------------enig5672B173FD9E2ED56B96A587 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6eQzmcXjc1XBrAQRAs2jAJ9kRoYbMW84G4DWk1OHjicG8gu5xwCeN8Y0 LcuWFMjkXdct9Ok4QGHhJVo= =b2bV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5672B173FD9E2ED56B96A587-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:57:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D6D16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:57:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net (lakermmtao02.cox.net [68.230.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68B343D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:56:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nharrison@cox.net) Received: from ip68-13-42-191.om.om.cox.net ([68.13.42.191]) by lakermmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP <20050116035657.UAAS2202.lakermmtao02.cox.net@ip68-13-42-191.om.om.cox.net> for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:56:57 -0500 From: Ned Harrison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:57:36 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501152157.36699.nharrison@cox.net> Subject: Printer fails to work after upgrade to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:57:00 -0000 I have a Cannon S520 printer that I had working under 5.2.1 using cups with KDE as a graphical interface. After upgrading I have not been able to get it to print. I get no error messages when I send a document to print. Even test prints bring back a message stating the test print was successfull, however the printer does not respond. I double checked my packages in case I deleted any. Ghostscrip-gnu-nox11 is still installed as well as cups. I still have a symbolic link from cups.sh.sample to cups.sh in the ~/etc/rc.d directory. The /etc/make.conf file still has CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes and NO_LPR=yes in it. The corresponding lp commands in /usr/bin are symbolicly linked to their counterparts in /usr/local/bin/lp. Is there something basic that I have missed or a change which needs to be added? I have created the libmap.conf file to adjust the different threading libraries. What would I need to do to try to get an error message via the command line? I'm a newbie, when I first set up the printer under 5.2.1, I followed some basic set up instructions and the KDE graphical interface took right off without problems. So I never really learned anything. :-) Any assistance will be appreciated! Ned From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 04:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DFF16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:12:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AB943D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:12:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050116041215011000bniee>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:12:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 75626 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 04:12:16 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 04:12:16 -0000 Message-ID: <41E9EADE.6000304@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:17:34 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501152157.36699.nharrison@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <200501152157.36699.nharrison@cox.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBEFA0B4A28C26E26FDDE5562" Subject: Re: Printer fails to work after upgrade to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:12:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBEFA0B4A28C26E26FDDE5562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fo you have cups-pstoraster? Also, have you tried gimp-print? The drivers are excellent and work extremely well with cups, especially when you use something like kprinter --stdin instead of lpr. That way, you have a ton of configuration options that you can easily change for each file that you print. --------------enigBEFA0B4A28C26E26FDDE5562 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6erimcXjc1XBrAQRAjoKAKCbwADdkY2FluxMyCT4JCp4B/Bo1QCeP/rF MdeW1qORyLOVGQ3ieA1325M= =kZG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBEFA0B4A28C26E26FDDE5562-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 04:16:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278BC16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:16:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C8043D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C46456470; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:26 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:26 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: John Message-ID: <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:16:28 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed > and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, > and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the > latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get > how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless > that's the only way to get a viable JRE. You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "If you wish your merit to be known, acknowledge that of other people" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 05:05:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD48516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:05:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC0443D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 62512 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 21:05:23 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 21:05:23 -0800 Message-ID: <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:05:22 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: John cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:05:27 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > >>OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed >>and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, >>and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the >>latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get >>how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless >>that's the only way to get a viable JRE. > > > You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the > JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. > > Cheers. But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and obviously linux emulation). PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be safely removed. -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 05:34:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB01716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:34:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C48343D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G5Y4620688; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:34:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:34:04 -0600 From: John To: Tabor Kelly Message-ID: <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net>; 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:34:34 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote: > Jonathan Chen wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > > > >>OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed > >>and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, > >>and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the > >>latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get > >>how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless > >>that's the only way to get a viable JRE. > > > > > > You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the > > JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. > > > > Cheers. > > But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and > obviously linux emulation). > > PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires > java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be > safely removed. Oh, my word! They don't make this easy, do they??? -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 05:47:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D460C16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:47:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6132643D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:47:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 05:47:14 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:47:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com> <20050115212353.A20171@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050115212353.A20171@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: John Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:47:15 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John wrote: > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is > GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU isn't > busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for. > It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I said, on other > web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and > just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like "12 out > of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it > resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd. Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm not entirely sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know what the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as there are often page elements which depend on the placement of other elements to determine their own placement. However, AFAIK this is also considered a bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle this issue gracefully, so (again AFAIR) this is something that the KDE project is working to correct. I seem to remember something about this waiting until KDE version 4, however. I don't speak for them, so apologies if this isn't entirely correct. > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win 98. > 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) > a CD in my laptop multi-bay Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it. BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my hardware. > Those were all issues before my switch to 5.3. > > I have a functional laptop again! YAY! > > Thanks to all, especially you, Andrew, typing with your poor > wrists! It sounds like so far so good. I know the feeling. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 05:57:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E0416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:57:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607C843D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:57:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G5vdO20818; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:57:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:57:39 -0600 From: John To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com> <20050115212353.A20171@starfire.mn.org> <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com>; from krinklyfig@spymac.com on Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:57:43 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John wrote: > > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web > > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is > > GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU isn't > > busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for. > > It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I said, on other > > web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and > > just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like "12 out > > of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it > > resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd. > > Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some > images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this happens > because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm not entirely Thanks for your response, Joshua! Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I supplied, but it is not what's happening. I can have my Windoze work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up these pages in a snap. Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network. > sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know what > the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as there are > often page elements which depend on the placement of other elements to > determine their own placement. However, AFAIK this is also considered a > bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle this issue gracefully, so (again > AFAIR) this is something that the KDE project is working to correct. I > seem to remember something about this waiting until KDE version 4, > however. I don't speak for them, so apologies if this isn't entirely > correct. > > > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win 98. > > 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD > > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD > > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working > > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) > > a CD in my laptop multi-bay > > Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom Oh, yeah - it's not in dmesgs. 4.x used to at least have an atapi-slave ID timeout, but this doesn't even do that - the kernel just pauses and goes on without any message. It's pretty bizarre - 4.x would boot and actually INSTALL from the CD, but when you booted from the hard drive, I'd get the ID timeout message. 5.x boots from the CD, but then can't even install from it. I boot the CD, then eject it, bring it to another system, and NFS mount it to complete the installation. Kludgy, but it works. OK when I'm at home with the other systems, but not much good when I'm traveling with the laptop... ;) > You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it. I appreciate thoroughness. > BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but > unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my > hardware. Yup - I was just making a little "to do" list, in case anyone had any caveats to yell out. I've already heard from the folks on the ACPI list - I have some "to do's" to try. > > Those were all issues before my switch to 5.3. > > > > I have a functional laptop again! YAY! > > > > Thanks to all, especially you, Andrew, typing with your poor > > wrists! > > It sounds like so far so good. I know the feeling. > > - jt -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:01:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22C616A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cypherpunks.to (pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to [82.94.251.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7361C43D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:01:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shamrock@mail.cypherpunks.to) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:01:12 +0100 From: Lucky Green To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <20050116060112.9D96B114B6@mail.cypherpunks.to> Subject: DEVICE_POLLING vs. SMP kernels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:01:15 -0000 I am contemplating using the DEVICE_POLLING kernel option with an fxp NIC on FreeBSD 5.3 using an SMP kernel. /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_poll.c clearly states that DEVICE_POLLING is incompatible with SNP kernels: #ifdef SMP #ifndef COMPILING_LINT #error DEVICE_POLLING is not compatible with SMP #endif #endif Yet there are various performance tuning FAQs floating around the Net stating that DEVICE_POLLING will work just fine with SMP kernels and that the user can safely delete the above section from kern_poll.c This may well be the case, but if this is true, why wouldn't that section have been removed from kern_poll.c by now? What are the corner cases, if any, that an admin should be aware of that keep this error message in the code? TIA, -- Lucky Green PGP encrypted email preferred. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:04:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2752116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:04:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FEF43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:04:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D91005643C; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:04:42 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:04:42 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: John Message-ID: <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:04:44 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:34:04PM -0600, John wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote: > > Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > > > > > >>OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed > > >>and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, > > >>and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the > > >>latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get > > >>how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless > > >>that's the only way to get a viable JRE. > > > > > > > > > You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the > > > JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and > > obviously linux emulation). > > > > PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires > > java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be > > safely removed. > > Oh, my word! They don't make this easy, do they??? Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD to release a binary version of Java. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. I want to achieve it through not dying" - Woody Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:21:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E53716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:21:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491A343D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:21:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (adsl-69-211-82-66.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.211.82.66]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D324B17D014; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:21:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:20:58 -0500 To: John X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:21:43 -0000 On Jan 13, 2005, at 5:18 PM, John wrote: > Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to > support the environment I want? Maybe... FWIW, the day after Thanksgiving, BestBuy had a 250GB drive for $80 after $100 rebate. Even if you can't find a deal that good, your time is worth money, and if financially possible, even $50 will get you a nice large hard drive these days and you can completely segregate Windows onto another drive if you want. (Then again, I bought the drive basically on principle because it was such a good deal, then I ended up buying a new desktop to put it in, so you never know where these things will lead... but fortunately for me it led me to finally have a 100% FreeBSD box) Sounds like you've since got it working, glad to hear it. TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:35:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B909116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A82443D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E68B73.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.139.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A677F2EBE7; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EA0B3F.3030209@incubus.de> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:43 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: John cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD > to release a binary version of Java. Even Apple doesn't show up in their radar... what do you expect. Java is as proprietary as it gets. (Unfortunately many of us need it.) mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:41:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B5916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:41:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092D343D54 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:41:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lyn000@fallbrook.net) Received: from XPH01 ([68.71.6.235]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20050116064152.SDBW1403.mta11.adelphia.net@XPH01> for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:41:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> From: "Lyn Robie" To: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lyn Robie List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:41:54 -0000 Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's = obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user = interfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the = web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X = Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include the = drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not exactly the = rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys = are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can = draw some cold comfort from knowing your distro installation is so = obscure and bugridden that no one outside of the few grizzled old = graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a system run. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:54:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D102E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:54:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783E243D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:54:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D61960EA; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37942-01; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAD660E2; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA0FA3.4030202@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:27 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyn Robie References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:54:24 -0000 Lyn Robie wrote: > Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. *Stuff cut due - idiot has no clue what word wrap is etc.* Where are we getting these 'tards from as of late. Hmm, could be just the one that keeps plastering essance of the same post. -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:58:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E6716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:58:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9868C43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:58:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j0G6wC906489 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:58:12 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:58:11 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41EA0FA3.4030202@makeworld.com> Message-ID: References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> <41EA0FA3.4030202@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:58:16 -0000 On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Chris wrote: > > Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. > *Stuff cut due - idiot has no clue what word wrap is etc.* > > Where are we getting these 'tards from as of late. Hmm, could be just > the one that keeps plastering essance of the same post. Either that, or they've figured out how to breed... -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 07:11:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0B416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:11:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134A43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:11:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 62715 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 23:11:47 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 23:11:47 -0800 Message-ID: <41EA13B3.8010708@taborandtashell.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:11:47 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyn Robie References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:11:49 -0000 Lyn Robie wrote: > Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's obv- > ious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user > nterfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the > web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X > Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include > the drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not exactly the > rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys > are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can draw > some cold comfort from knowing your distro installation is so obscure > and bugridden that no one outside of the few grizzled old graybeard unix > administrators will be able to make a system run. 1. Please break your lines around 72 characters. 2. I am using an i845 as I type to compose this message. 3. There is no "kernel driver" for the i845, I assume you want X? 4. X lives in user land, not kernel land, and the i845 is well supported by both XFree86 4.4.0 and XOrg 6.8.1 (as well as XOrg 6.7.0 for that matter). 5. FreeBSD is focused more at servers than desktops, as suck "we" aren't trying to win over the Linux crowd. 6. I am running FreeBSD on my Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop because I have found it more stable and secure than Linux or Windows. Also, I prefer the port system to the packages systems found on most Linux distros (I came from Debian). -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 07:35:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F8E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD3C943D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 07:35:49 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: John Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:35:49 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501152335.49531.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:50 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 09:57 pm, John wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John wrote: > > > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web > > > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just > > > is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU > > > isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is > > > waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I > > > said, on other web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops > > > with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it > > > pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it > > > pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to > > > the server. VERY odd. > > > > Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some > > images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this > > happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm > > not entirely > > Thanks for your response, Joshua! > > Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I > supplied, but it is not what's happening. I can have my Windoze > work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up > these pages in a snap. Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits > there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network. You may have an issue with DNS. You should have DNS servers listed in your /etc/resolv.conf, like this: nameserver 888.888.888.888 (the number is an example - you should use your ISP's nameserver or your internal one, if you've set it up) Is this also an issue with other browsers or network software? If you haven't done so already, you should try Firefox or Opera and see if Konqueror is the problem. > > sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know > > what the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as > > there are often page elements which depend on the placement of > > other elements to determine their own placement. However, AFAIK > > this is also considered a bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle > > this issue gracefully, so (again AFAIR) this is something that the > > KDE project is working to correct. I seem to remember something > > about this waiting until KDE version 4, however. I don't speak for > > them, so apologies if this isn't entirely correct. > > > > > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win > > > 98. 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD > > > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD > > > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working > > > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) > > > a CD in my laptop multi-bay > > > > Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom > > Oh, yeah - it's not in dmesgs. 4.x used to at least have an > atapi-slave ID timeout, but this doesn't even do that - the kernel > just pauses and goes on without any message. > > It's pretty bizarre - 4.x would boot and actually INSTALL from the > CD, but when you booted from the hard drive, I'd get the ID timeout > message. 5.x boots from the CD, but then can't even install from it. > I boot the CD, then eject it, bring it to another system, and > NFS mount it to complete the installation. Kludgy, but it works. > OK when I'm at home with the other systems, but not much good > when I'm traveling with the laptop... ;) That's strange. It appears to mount the CD and then unmount it, though I'm not sure. Do you have the correct drivers for your CD? > > You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it. > > I appreciate thoroughness. > > > BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but > > unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my > > hardware. > > Yup - I was just making a little "to do" list, in case anyone had > any caveats to yell out. I've already heard from the folks on > the ACPI list - I have some "to do's" to try. Good luck. There be dragons. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 08:07:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1ED16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:07:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587E343D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:07:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 6A252285EA; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id E5F35285E8; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289A96232; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0G87KTV037366; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:18 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <41E7F5B3.7050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20050116085104.R802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> <41E7CBFB.1090603@infracaninophile.co.uk> <41E7D5A0.2090004@mail.ru> <41E7F5B3.7050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: DNS: querying route DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:07:39 -0000 On Jan 14 at 16:39, Matthew Seaman patiently explained: > Andrew P. wrote: >> Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >> I'm sure it won't be difficult for anyone to find a named(8) how-to, >> but I'd be very glad to see your post, please. I currently use djbdns, >> but I'm not very happy with it and I'd like to try something else. > > Sure. Assuming you're using 5.3-RELEASE, 5.3-STABLE or better, then setting > up a recursive-only nameserver is really very simple. > > The system comes with BIND-9.3.0 as standard, and it has all of the > chroot-ing functionality available just by default. All you need do is add > the following to /etc/rc.conf: > > named_enable="YES" Your "howto" was characteristically thorough Matthew. I followed it myself - almost to the letter. At some point I think I had to refer to the Handbook howto as well, but having the Handbook open to the relevant section when doing something new is/should_be mandatory. Upon completion of the process I noted something which I assume to be normal behavior, a new beast has been created /var/named/dev which seems to contain some rather odd creatures indeed. crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 2, 2 Jan 16 08:55 null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 6, 8 Jan 15 16:28 ptyp8 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 249, 0 Jan 12 12:11 random crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 8 Jan 15 16:28 ttyp8 I (instinctively) assume all this constitutes a rather rugged part of the "jail". All told, and yet again Matthew, thanks for contributing excellent "useable" info. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - "There can be only One" 9:06AM up 3 days, 21:54, 7 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 08:10:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2BD16A4CE; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCFA43D1F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F090D558F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73313-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D2B0557D; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050116081003.4D2B0557D@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-12-26 - 2005-01-15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:18 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 09:26:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D0816A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:26:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE72E43D64 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:26:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0G9PZR0055441; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:25:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-858825360" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:26:00 -0600 To: Lyn Robie X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:26:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-858825360 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 16, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Lyn Robie wrote: > Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's > obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user > interfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the > web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X > Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include > the drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not > exactly the rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me > that you guys are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I > suppose you can draw some cold comfort from knowing your distro > installation is so obscure and bugridden that no one outside of the > few grizzled old graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a > system run. Looks like you're destined for the same 550 file on my server as mr/ms/it freebsd0101@aol.com... Have a nice day! _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-858825360 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHqMygACgkQRAAY9knOW+oEZgCfSDNLZhdOf+x5ei+onV34Dqn7 ZhoAni8KbqsEfkWOitGPPfiLjJm+7rzS =g+7m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-858825360-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 09:33:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E78D16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:33:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CF243D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:33:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 1BD75285E6; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:34:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 392A428557; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:34:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733696232; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0G9Xgqi038171; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:33:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:33:40 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:33:48 -0000 On Jan 16 at 03:26, Eric F Crist arrived at this conclusion: > On Jan 16, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Lyn Robie wrote: >> beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys are not into >> winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can draw some cold >> comfort from knowing your distro installation is so obscure and bugridden >> that no one outside of the few grizzled old graybeard unix administrators >> will be able to make a system run. > > Looks like you're destined for the same 550 file on my server as mr/ms/it > freebsd0101@aol.com... [RHETORICAL_MODE=ON] Where, I wonder, are all these folks suddenly coming from? [SUPREME_IRONY_MODE=ON] Well anyway, it's nice to know I'm a grizzled old graybeard unix admin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 09:38:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9A216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:38:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms006msg.fastweb.it (ms006msg.fastweb.it [213.140.2.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F123E43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:38:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from support@comox.it) Received: from xxx-x24dv.comox.it (37.255.168.94) by ms006msg.fastweb.it (7.2.052) id 41D18E9B0020C6F9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:48 +0100 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20050117105039.024698b8@pop.comox.it> X-Sender: mail4.comox.it@pop.comox.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:52:46 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Comox_Support Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:38:50 -0000 Hi, I'm login as root and trying to start Xserver and Xwindows, how can I go about this ? Do I need to install something first ? How can I test if all files needed to installed are on my system. Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:38:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B399116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E3743D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005011610382201500cme52e>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:23 +0000 Message-ID: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:38:16 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: very annoying sound! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:23 -0000 I am running kde 3.3 and there is one very annoying sound that I cannot find where to turn off. Whenever the system bell beeps there is also a sound of someone trying to clear their throat. It is driving me crazy! I have tried turning all sound on, all sounds off, going through sounds one by one, resets and default options. I cannot turn this sound off. Can anyone help before insanity takes over? Thanks Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:47:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDFF16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:47:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AA143D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:47:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C33960F3; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:47:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42115-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:47:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A7760F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:47:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA4649.7070907@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:47:37 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsh.lists@comcast.net References: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: very annoying sound! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:47:33 -0000 Sean wrote: > I am running kde 3.3 and there is one very annoying sound that I cannot > find where to turn off. > Whenever the system bell beeps there is also a sound of someone trying > to clear their throat. It is driving me crazy! > > I have tried turning all sound on, all sounds off, going through sounds > one by one, resets and default options. > I cannot turn this sound off. > > Can anyone help before insanity takes over? > > Thanks > Sean When you finally realize you don't have a sound card and speakers - you'll then know it's the other voices in your head. Next - try posting to the KDE list if you're having issues within KDE. Now, will whomever is doing all this nonsensical postings either get a life or end it? Are you in that much misery? I'm fairly certain this is just a flux of pissed-off Linux users having fun. -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:52:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4AA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:52:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orbit.kuwaitnet.net (orbit.kuwaitnet.net [216.40.249.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB5C43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:52:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hamad@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from [62.150.223.52] (helo=[127.0.0.1]) by orbit.kuwaitnet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cq81H-0007sw-Co for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:32 +0300 Message-ID: <41EA4772.7020104@kuwaitnet.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:34 +0300 From: "Hamad M." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080505020302060907040907" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orbit.kuwaitnet.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kuwaitnet.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: buildkernel fails with 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:52:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080505020302060907040907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-6; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have been trying to build a custom kernel, but I kept getting this error: ===> bktr/bktr cc -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -include /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/shabab/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -finline-limit=8000 -fno-common -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/shabab -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c: In function `vbi_read': /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261: error: `FNDELAY' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261: error: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr. *** Error code 1 Any clue on how to get rid of this? -- Regards, Hamad --------------080505020302060907040907 Content-Type: text/plain; name="kernelconfig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="kernelconfig" machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident shabab options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=15000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. options IPFIREWALL # finger the net options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE # log the net options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT # just what it says options QUOTA # quota options SMP # SMP device apic # I/O APIC device isa device pci device fdc device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets device npx device pmtimer device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device bpf # Berkeley packet filter device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) --------------080505020302060907040907-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:53:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1676416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DD043D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050116105350011000c3ade>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:51 +0000 Message-ID: <41EA47B9.2000802@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:53:45 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> <41EA4649.7070907@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41EA4649.7070907@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: very annoying sound! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:52 -0000 Chris wrote: > Sean wrote: > >> I am running kde 3.3 and there is one very annoying sound that I >> cannot find where to turn off. >> Whenever the system bell beeps there is also a sound of someone trying >> to clear their throat. It is driving me crazy! >> >> I have tried turning all sound on, all sounds off, going through >> sounds one by one, resets and default options. >> I cannot turn this sound off. >> >> Can anyone help before insanity takes over? >> >> Thanks >> Sean > > > When you finally realize you don't have a sound card and speakers - > you'll then know it's the other voices in your head. > > Next - try posting to the KDE list if you're having issues within KDE. > > Now, will whomever is doing all this nonsensical postings either get a > life or end it? Are you in that much misery? > > I'm fairly certain this is just a flux of pissed-off Linux users having > fun. > Finally repeating the same steps over and over again with the sound system managed to turn this damn sound off, so it was not the voices in my head. They tend to more agreeing! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:55:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464EF16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF11543D3F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC3260F3; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42613-01; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:55:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4592460F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:55:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA4828.7030101@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:55:36 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsh.lists@comcast.net References: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> <41EA4649.7070907@makeworld.com> <41EA47B9.2000802@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <41EA47B9.2000802@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: very annoying sound! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:32 -0000 Sean wrote: > Chris wrote: > >> Sean wrote: >> >>> I am running kde 3.3 and there is one very annoying sound that I >>> cannot find where to turn off. >>> Whenever the system bell beeps there is also a sound of someone >>> trying to clear their throat. It is driving me crazy! >>> >>> I have tried turning all sound on, all sounds off, going through >>> sounds one by one, resets and default options. >>> I cannot turn this sound off. >>> >>> Can anyone help before insanity takes over? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Sean >> >> >> >> When you finally realize you don't have a sound card and speakers - >> you'll then know it's the other voices in your head. >> >> Next - try posting to the KDE list if you're having issues within KDE. >> >> Now, will whomever is doing all this nonsensical postings either get a >> life or end it? Are you in that much misery? >> >> I'm fairly certain this is just a flux of pissed-off Linux users >> having fun. >> > Finally repeating the same steps over and over again with the sound > system managed to turn this damn sound off, so it was not the voices in > my head. > They tend to more agreeing! Again - if this is in KDE, post to the KDE list. Then again - I'm sure you don't have sound compiled in your kernel either. -- Best regards, Chris The ratio of time involved in work to time available for work is usually about 0.6 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:55:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E921116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4B743D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <200501161055240130092230e>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:34 +0000 Message-ID: <41EA4815.4030607@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:55:17 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Comox_Support References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050117105039.024698b8@pop.comox.it> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050117105039.024698b8@pop.comox.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:35 -0000 Comox_Support wrote: > Hi, > > I'm login as root and trying to start Xserver and Xwindows, how can I go > about this ? > Do I need to install something first ? > How can I test if all files needed to installed are on my system. > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Try 'startx' if it is installed and configured. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:59:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091C16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:59:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBD543D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:59:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2652560F3; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:59:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42617-02; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:59:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B4360F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:59:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA4923.3070402@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:59:47 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:59:43 -0000 Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 16 at 03:26, Eric F Crist arrived at this conclusion: > > >>On Jan 16, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Lyn Robie wrote: > > > >>>beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys are not into >>>winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can draw some cold >>>comfort from knowing your distro installation is so obscure and bugridden >>>that no one outside of the few grizzled old graybeard unix administrators >>>will be able to make a system run. >> >>Looks like you're destined for the same 550 file on my server as mr/ms/it >>freebsd0101@aol.com... > > > [RHETORICAL_MODE=ON] > Where, I wonder, are all these folks suddenly coming from? Folks? You sir, are being way to kind. > [SUPREME_IRONY_MODE=ON] > Well anyway, it's nice to know I'm a grizzled old graybeard unix admin. Indeed. -- Best regards, Chris The ratio of time involved in work to time available for work is usually about 0.6 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 11:08:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85DA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp03.eresmas.com (asmtp03.eresmas.com [62.81.235.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BD743D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.52] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp03.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cq8Gu-0001z5-SU; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:40 +0100 Received: from [80.103.10.64] (helo=[80.103.10.64]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Cq8Gu-0001XM-1B; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:40 +0100 Message-ID: <41EA4BD2.2030407@wanadoo.es> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:11:14 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyn Robie References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 -0000 Lyn Robie wrote: >Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's >obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user >interfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the >web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X >Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include the >drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not exactly the >rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys >are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can >draw some cold comfort from knowing your distro installation is so >obscure and bugridden that no one outside of the few grizzled old >graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a system run. Never heard such a stupid e-mail! If you do not like the installer, learn how to fix it and do it! I came from Linux and found the installer different to Debian installer, but as soon as I understood it I think it is great! You are the amateurish, not the installer. Your card is well supported in X window, it has nothing to do with kernel driver. You need to read the manual first, you can find it in the install CD, or in the /usr/share/doc/ directory. Good luck. Ramiro. EA1ABZ (ham radio call, is there any radio ham there?). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 11:28:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F15916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:28:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq2.home.nl (smtpq2.home.nl [213.51.128.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CF343D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roblahaye@home.nl) Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=35732 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cq8aQ-0002TY-26 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:28:50 +0100 Received: from [10.100.3.14] (port=41732 helo=mail.home.nl) by smtp5.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cq8aO-000661-Qi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:28:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) X-Originating-IP: [147.47.254.184] From: Rob Lahaye To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:28:48 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Message-Id: <20050116112851.62CF343D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: lahaye@romeo.snu.ac.kr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:28:52 -0000 Hi, I've just upgraded all my software from recent ports. Now realplayer (10.0.2_1) doesn't run anymore, because it cannot find its libraries: $ ldd /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin | grep "not found" libX11.so.6 => not found libXrandr.so.2 => not found libXi.so.6 => not found libXext.so.6 => not found libXft.so.2 => not found libXrender.so.1 => not found libX11.so.6 => not found libXft.so.2 => not found libXrender.so.1 => not found libX11.so.6 => not found $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Any idea what's the problem here? Thanks, Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 12:14:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800BE16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A07443D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j0GCEQH07024 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:14:26 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:14:26 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:30 -0000 On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > [RHETORICAL_MODE=ON] > Where, I wonder, are all these folks suddenly coming from? > [SUPREME_IRONY_MODE=ON] > Well anyway, it's nice to know I'm a grizzled old graybeard unix admin. I'll bet my beard's greyer than yours! Edition 5, on a PDP-11/40, in 1975. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 12:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D7216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from codegurus.org (cpc2-stoc7-3-0-cust147.midd.cable.ntl.com [81.104.76.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEF043D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) Received: from codegurus.org (codegurus.org [192.168.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by codegurus.org (8.13.2/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0GCag4D018374 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:42 GMT (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) From: Mick Walker To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:41 +0000 Message-Id: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Set up of Wireless on laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:24 -0000 Hi all, I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0. However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all. Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working? If you need any other data, I would be happy to help. Thanks Mick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 12:47:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F124B16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:47:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF5543D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:47:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:47:15 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:47:15 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050116124715.GA524@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: php.ini X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:47:34 -0000 I installed php4 from ports. In /usr/local/etc are two files, php.ini-recommended and php.ini-dist. I have two questions: (a) I understand the recommended file is the most secure (?) (b) To what location do I have to copy one of them as php.ini? I read somewhere that I need to copy the file to /usr/local/lib. Is that right? The manual does not mention it ;-( Any help would be appreciated. -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 12:57:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3050416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:57:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9697443D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:57:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 7FDDF2841F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 0ACE528419; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4340C6252; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0GCvHNV065923; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:15 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Dave Horsfall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050116133237.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:57:32 -0000 On Jan 16 at 23:14, Dave Horsfall launched this into the bitstream: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> [RHETORICAL_MODE=ON] >> Where, I wonder, are all these folks suddenly coming from? >> [SUPREME_IRONY_MODE=ON] >> Well anyway, it's nice to know I'm a grizzled old graybeard unix admin. > > I'll bet my beard's greyer than yours! Edition 5, on a PDP-11/40, in > 1975. Done, you win. Unconditionally! I've only been *nix'ing (?) for a few years. I first *saw* a Unix server in 1994..and that was a BSD oddly enough. IIRC I *think* it was BSDI. I thought it was some form of black magic. I had no contact whatsoever from an admin point of view for a number of years, except as a shell account user which was handy enough to learn the basics (and become addicted to shell). Then around '99 I started periodically installing some Linux or BSD version on a Frankenputer occasionally to see what was what. I got serious about BSD in 2003 when a colleague installed it on a shared datacenter based server. Then recently I installed 5.3 at home and that's it...I'm hooked...there's no going back now :) Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One 1:57PM up 4 days, 2:45, 8 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:03:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C958216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB6343D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqALV-000Lij-Ly for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:21:33 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:45 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> <200501151058.42031.ian@codepad.net> <20050115151721.0db98c5c@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050115151721.0db98c5c@vixen42.local.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501161303.45688.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:49 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 21:17, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:41 +0000 > > Xian wrote: > > On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > > > > > > - WinAMP > > > > Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP > > I am confused by this comment, I thought it looked like winamp and > worked a lot like it under any system it ran on? > > I meant I've only used it under FreeSBIE. It does look and work like WinAMP everywhere it runs. -- /Xian "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:17:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEF716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB1043D4C for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqAHg-000Jbk-09 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:36 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:35 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050116124715.GA524@pooh.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050116124715.GA524@pooh.nagual.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501161317.35235.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: php.ini X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:39 -0000 On Sunday 16 January 2005 12:47, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I installed php4 from ports. In /usr/local/etc are two files, > php.ini-recommended and php.ini-dist. I have two questions: > (a) I understand the recommended file is the most secure (?) > (b) To what location do I have to copy one of them as php.ini? I read > somewhere that I need to copy the file to /usr/local/lib. Is that right? > The manual does not mention it ;-( > Any help would be appreciated. I installed PHP from the source code not ports, but my php.ini file is /usr/local/lib/php.ini -- /Xian "You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist" Golda Meir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:29:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0080516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:29:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8676F43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:29:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.175.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7933D74B9 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:29:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EA6BE1.5090205@celeritystorm.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:28:01 +0000 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD with ProPolice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:29:46 -0000 Hey, I'd like to know if this patch ( http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/ ) still applies on 5.3-RELEASE. I know some apps need to write to the stack, and these will fail with this patch on.. Anyone knows of such commonly used applications ? Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:43:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BF416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:43:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-07.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2B5143D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:43:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 19811 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 13:43:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.100.6.10?) (203.206.229.203) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 13:42:54 -0000 From: Warren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:40:35 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501162340.35311.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Subject: 5.3 prob reading 4.11 hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:43:04 -0000 I recently took my primary hdd running FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE out of my main machine leaving my 2ndry hdd in the machine and installing FreeBSD5.3-STABLE on it to use as the new primary. When everything was done and i plugged in the 2nd hdd that priginally had 4.11-STABLE on it, i was unable to find the individual partitions/slices on there to mount so i could access all the old data i had. I have a basic understanding of FreeBSD but am still not quite proficent when it comes to this sort of thing. Below is the dislabel output of the drive im wanting to get all the data from.. # /dev/ad1s1c: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 234436482 63 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit e: 234436482 63 4.2BSD 2048 16384 89 partition c: partition extends past end of unit disklabel: partition c doesn't start at 0! disklabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities partition e: partition extends past end of unit ========== Any help in recovering the copius amounts of data would be greatly appreciated. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:52:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0237516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7BE43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116075053.00bf6a98@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:52:47 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: upgrading from 5.3 to current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:49 -0000 This is rather a nubee question.. I am used to OBSD and how to update my sources...but seem to be missing something with FREEBSD. I installed 5.3 release and all I want to do now is update the source files on the disk to current. Does someone have a web page that can show these steps? I read up on CVS, but OBSD seems very straight forward - this seems a bit more challenging... any assistance will be appreciated. -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:02:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A183616A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D0D43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqAz6-000PgQ-En; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:28 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:00 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <15752.80.127.55.226.1105826198.squirrel@80.127.55.226> In-Reply-To: <15752.80.127.55.226.1105826198.squirrel@80.127.55.226> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501161402.00282.ian@codepad.net> cc: maarfree@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: KDM, KDE 3.3 and xmodmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:29 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 21:56, Maarten wrote: >Does anyone know how to configure KDM or KDE so that is uses xmodmap? > >The configuration is pretty much out of the box, 5.3. > >For some reason using "custom" from the KDM menu with .xsession: > >#!/bin/sh >xmodmap -e 'keycode 203=F13' >exec startkde > >Does start kde but ignores the xmodmap entry. > >If i do 'sh .xsession' after login xmodmap is processed and I get a >message KDE is already running :-) > >Thanks, > >Maarten I think KDM completely ignores ~/.xsession and ~/.xinit files out of the box. I don't know how to change this. If you want to test your ~/.xsession and ~/.xinit files you can type startx -- :1 to start up another Xserver. Also I can't seem to find any logic to what uses ~/.xsession and what uses ~/.xinit so I hard linked them to the same file. -- /Xian "If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the seriousness of the situation" unknown author From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:06:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25AD16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:06:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mato.luukku.com (mato.luukku.com [193.209.83.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A90743D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:06:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (mta3-o.i.luukku.com [10.0.1.132]) by mta3-o.i.luukku.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4165100117; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:06:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from rekon (92a7.dsl.mtv3.fi [82.203.167.146]) by mato.luukku.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A8EEF22EE8B; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:06:07 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <012801c4fbd4$8dc3e280$92a7cb52@rekon> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116075053.00bf6a98@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:06:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: upgrading from 5.3 to current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:06:09 -0000 > This is rather a nubee question.. > > I am used to OBSD and how to update my sources...but seem to be > missing something with FREEBSD. > > I installed 5.3 release and all I want to do now is update the source > files on the disk to current. Very easy, all explained in the handbook. If on Intel, cvsup is your friend. Are you sure you'll want to install CURRENT, by the way? - In the FreeBSD context CURRENT is more like development alpha version, STABLE branch is more like beta, and RELENG branches are the bug and security fix branches of the original release. All explained in the handbook. > Does someone have a web page that can show these steps? http://www.freebsd.org/handbook, See chapter 19 and appendix A. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:15:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4F216A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:15:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91CD43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:15:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roblahaye@home.nl) Received: from [213.51.128.134] (port=45490 helo=smtp3.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CqBBY-0005OR-JW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:15:20 +0100 Received: from [10.100.3.10] (port=63124 helo=mail.home.nl) by smtp3.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CqBBX-0000Ql-8i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:15:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) X-Originating-IP: [147.46.44.181] From: Rob Lahaye To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:15:19 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Message-Id: <20050116141521.B91CD43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: lahaye@romeo.snu.ac.kr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:15:22 -0000 Rob Lahaye wrote: > Hi, > > I've just upgraded all my software from recent ports. > Now realplayer (10.0.2_1) doesn't run anymore, because it cannot > find its libraries: > > $ ldd /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin | grep "not found" > libX11.so.6 => not found > libXrandr.so.2 => not found > libXi.so.6 => not found > libXext.so.6 => not found > libXft.so.2 => not found > libXrender.so.1 => not found > libX11.so.6 => not found > libXft.so.2 => not found > libXrender.so.1 => not found > libX11.so.6 => not found > $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Meanwhile I've solved the problem with a: # portupgrade -frRv linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1 Sorry for the noise. Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:19:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B37216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2306143D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116081854.00c00d60@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:19:27 -0600 To: "Reko Turja" , From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <012801c4fbd4$8dc3e280$92a7cb52@rekon> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116075053.00bf6a98@cheyenne.wixb.com> <012801c4fbd4$8dc3e280$92a7cb52@rekon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: upgrading from 5.3 to current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:29 -0000 At 08:06 AM 1/16/2005, Reko Turja wrote: >>This is rather a nubee question.. >> >>I am used to OBSD and how to update my sources...but seem to be missing >>something with FREEBSD. >> >>I installed 5.3 release and all I want to do now is update the source >>files on the disk to current. > > >Very easy, all explained in the handbook. If on Intel, cvsup is your >friend. Are you sure you'll want to install CURRENT, by the way? - In the >FreeBSD context CURRENT is more like development alpha version, STABLE >branch is more like beta, and RELENG branches are the bug and security fix >branches of the original release. All explained in the handbook. > >>Does someone have a web page that can show these steps? > >http://www.freebsd.org/handbook, See chapter 19 and appendix A. > >-Reko thanks. I am going to track STABLE...you are right. I am installing cvsup without GUI and then I will try to set this up... -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:19:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C2316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA7B43D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 4E70428559 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:20:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 7B0A428423 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:20:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62EB6250 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:19:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0GEJoSP067011 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:19:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:19:46 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050116145444.M802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Samba3/CUPS printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:57 -0000 It would seem as if my HP psc2105 printer is recognised under FreeBSD-5.3, but of course there are some minor issues. Without reopening old wounds lpd(?) vs CUPS, this is what I'm getting from /var/log/messages: Jan 16 14:54:13 kenmore smbd[65656]: [2005/01/16 14:54:13, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_queue_get(844) Jan 16 14:54:13 kenmore smbd[65656]: Unable to connect to CUPS server localhost - Connection refused That is what heppened when I tried to print a test page from an XP workstation. (Samba configured using SWAT BTW) I'm half way there (or not depending on how you choose to look at it) can anyone help out in getting the printer to actually [gasp] *print* something?? Regards & TIA, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:21:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC8D16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6AE43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CqBHX-000456-9d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:31 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:31 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050116142131.GF26970@lb.tenfour> References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> <41EA4BD2.2030407@wanadoo.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EA4BD2.2030407@wanadoo.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:32 -0000 * Ramiro Aceves [0109 11:09]: > Lyn Robie wrote: > > >Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's > >obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user > >interfaces. > Never heard such a stupid e-mail! > > If you do not like the installer, learn how to fix it and do it! Sorry, but that's nonsense, it smacks of 'where's the doc'/'read the source' attitude of a decade ago. People are allowed to say 'your installer sucks' without having to learn C. I don't need to sign an NDA to be able to hate Outlook Express. Although I agree that some constructive suggestions would be useful, rather than flamebait. Incidentally, next time one of these guys posts a 'you suck,bye bye' mail, can we try to avoid mailing the list about it for two weeks? If you want to send a 'piss off back to linux' message, you can do it off list. -- 'My life, and by extension everyone else's, is meaningless.' -- Bender Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:28:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEB016A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC1843D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqBO1-000GzP-3O; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:13 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501161428.12272.ian@codepad.net> cc: Lyn Robie Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:14 -0000 On Sunday 16 January 2005 06:41, Lyn Robie wrote: >grizzled old graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a system run. I'm old and going grey at age 17 am I? That would be due to M$ stuff I used before I went FreeBSD! ;-) -- /Xian "No, this trick won't work...How on earth are you ever going to explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love?" Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:28:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FD316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57C443D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [192.168.100.1]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA4293567D; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:28:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:28:28 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-Id: <20050116152828.78abcc5a.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20050116145444.M802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050116145444.M802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0-gtk2-20041224 (GTK+ 2.4.14; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__16_Jan_2005_15_28_28_+0100_UGBwKO2rtFfFaqe7" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba3/CUPS printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:49 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__16_Jan_2005_15_28_28_+0100_UGBwKO2rtFfFaqe7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:19:46 +0100 "Colin J. Raven" wrote: Hi, > It would seem as if my HP psc2105 printer is recognised under > FreeBSD-5.3, but of course there are some minor issues. > Without reopening old wounds lpd(?) vs CUPS, this is what I'm getting > from /var/log/messages: > > Jan 16 14:54:13 kenmore smbd[65656]: [2005/01/16 14:54:13, 0] > printing/print_cups.c:cups_queue_get(844) > Jan 16 14:54:13 kenmore smbd[65656]: Unable to connect to CUPS > server localhost - Connection refused > > That is what heppened when I tried to print a test page from an XP > workstation. (Samba configured using SWAT BTW) Is cupsd running? Did you copy cups.sh.sample in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to cups.sh? Sounds like cups is either not started or not properly configured yet. You can access the CUPS setup interface by pointing a browser to http://localhost:631 Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 --Signature=_Sun__16_Jan_2005_15_28_28_+0100_UGBwKO2rtFfFaqe7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6noPnLctrNyFFPERAv0LAKC9aVeFfEmWS6UIcnsIcEy9FIIsjwCbB/3W c2T4oHGCDgN5dYKgDikh5oA= =Cu26 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__16_Jan_2005_15_28_28_+0100_UGBwKO2rtFfFaqe7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 15:35:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E4716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:35:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from viefep20-int.chello.at (viefep12-int.chello.at [213.46.255.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205BD43D54 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:35:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu) Received: from hyperduron ([80.99.33.169]) by viefep20-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20050116153513.WNGG29966.viefep20-int.chello.at@hyperduron> for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:13 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?S/Z2ZXNk4W4gR+Fib3I=?=" To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Thread-Index: AcT74QSh40vg6NcwQ5mRvlFWQ9WU/g== Message-Id: <20050116153513.WNGG29966.viefep20-int.chello.at@hyperduron> Subject: IPF firewalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:35:16 -0000 Hi, I have some trouble with the ipf configuration. I made the following ruleset: pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 68 keep state pass in quick proto udp from any to any port =3D 53 keep state keep = frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port =3D 42 keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 22 flags S keep = state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 25 keep state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 21 keep state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 20 keep state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 80 keep state block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from = any to any block in quick on rl0 all pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all Everything seems okay, but the named. Neiher the ISP's nameserver (set = by the dhcp) nor the local nameserver works. BIND 9 wrote this to /var/log/messages: Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: starting BIND 9.3.0 -u named -t /usr/local/named -c /etc/named.conf Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: = address in use Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed; interface ignored Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: = address in use Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: not listening on any interfaces Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: /etc/named.conf:14: couldn't add = command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: permission denied Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed; interface ignored Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: permission denied Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored The rndc doesn't matter, I'm not going to use it, but the neither named = can listen on the network and the loopback interface. Could You suggest me = any solution for this trouble? Btw, this machine is going to be a web, dns, mail, etc. server and is being tested on an ordinary cable connection, that's why I'm using dhcp. Best regards, G=E1bor K=F6vesd=E1n From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 16:08:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:08:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5827E43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEC060F3; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:08:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 43751-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:08:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6148B60F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:08:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA918E.1080609@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:08:46 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mick Walker References: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> In-Reply-To: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:08:40 -0000 Mick Walker wrote: > Hi all, > I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it > is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0. > However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions > in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access > point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all. > Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working? > If you need any other data, I would be happy to help. > > Thanks > Mick Mick, Try something like this in /etc/rc.conf ifconfig_wi0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.xxx ssid SOMESSID wepmode on wepkey 0xXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Where SOMESSIS is the name of your WAP and where the 0xXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is the wep key (128 in this case) -- Best regards, Chris A $300.00 picture tube will protect a 10c fuse by blowing first. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 16:35:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A46816A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D138043D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0GGZHNH063202; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:35:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> References: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-884606088" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:35:41 -0600 To: Mick Walker X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-884606088 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 16, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Mick Walker wrote: > Hi all, > I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it > is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0. > However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions > in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access > point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all. > Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working? > If you need any other data, I would be happy to help. > > Thanks > Mick For example, try something similar to this: ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.0.20 netmask 0xffffff00 ssid my_net wepmode on wepkey 0x8736639624 For more information, see man 4 wi HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-884606088 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHql90ACgkQRAAY9knOW+pKlACgjX1+kH6onK76BnIcLmMCK8He I3YAnAxeYBDH7K2xJ0nX1acLkd1vz0TL =Z7O0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-884606088-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 16:38:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED1716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:38:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shadow.wixb.com (shadow.wixb.com [65.43.82.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215F843D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:38:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:53 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:38:55 -0000 I am having random reboots on my 5.3 system even using GENERIC. I am wondering, what do I have to do to enable some sort of debug/crash log...I dont want the thing to just reboot w/o telling me why. When this happens, there are no logs...just a reboot and then the FSCK. I believe I need to compile some options into a kernel to trap this, but dunno...where... Thanks in advance guys :) -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 16:50:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9339B16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DD843D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0GGnSTe063547; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:49:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-885457279" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:49:52 -0600 To: "J.D. Bronson" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:03 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3-885457279 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 16, 2005, at 10:38 AM, J.D. Bronson wrote: > I am having random reboots on my 5.3 system > even using GENERIC. > > I am wondering, what do I have to do to enable some sort of debug/crash > log...I dont want the thing to just reboot w/o telling me why. > > When this happens, there are no logs...just a reboot and then the FSCK. > > I believe I need to compile some options into a kernel to trap this, > but dunno...where... > > Thanks in advance guys :) If you enable debugging in the kernel, IIRC, you should have a dump file in the system root directory when the system crashes. If you tell us a little more about the system you're using, such as hardware, specific services you're running, we might be able to tell you why it's crashing. Also, the output of uname -a would be beneficial. HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-3-885457279 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHqmzAACgkQRAAY9knOW+onGQCfRxplgb/gV69cmr8h/sBiB6lV VB4An3ORpFLoNPhF1YLwQjO4wg169rLj =uMjv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-3-885457279-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:01:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3DE16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:01:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shadow.wixb.com (shadow.wixb.com [65.43.82.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD34643D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:01:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:01:38 -0600 To: Eric F Crist From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:01:40 -0000 At 10:49 AM 1/16/2005, you wrote: >If you enable debugging in the kernel, IIRC, you should have a dump file >in the system root directory when the system crashes. If you tell us a >little more about the system you're using, such as hardware, specific >services you're running, we might be able to tell you why it's >crashing. Also, the output of uname -a would be beneficial. > >HTH I was running 5.3 RELEASE. I just updated to 5.3-STABLE to see how things go. FreeBSD shadow 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 16 09:47:10 CST 2005 root@shadow:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SHADOW i386 This is a Pentium 4 3.06(HTT) and I have enabled SMP. it runs very well, but anywhere from an hour to a week and the machine reboots. Last time this happened, I had disconnected the LAN from the machine in case something was causing this from the network. (nope). I then thought it was related to SCSI, so I installed a new 5.3 on IDE. Still reboots. I have 2 identical machines and they both exhibit this. So I doubt its faulty hardware. These machines can run any other OS for weeks on end. Just freebsd 5.3 causes issues. 5.2.1 was rock solid for months and no reboots. (I dont do upgrades, but fresh installs..) so when I installed 5.3 the trouble started. last week I had a panic which caused the machine to halt and I posted it here. No dump file though and no reply. All I did was telnet into the machine and it panicked. So...before I give up on 5.3, I wanted to see if there was anything I could do to help the developers track down this reboot_at_random troubles. PS - these machines have less than 10 users and virtually no load. All they do is run DNS and SMTP. -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:07:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF8616A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8109143D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko@freebsd.org) Received: from [80.229.231.20] (helo=[192.168.254.25]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqDro-000Du8-EH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:08 +0000 Message-ID: <41EA9F3B.9000806@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:07 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (X11/20050115) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ctrl+Shift not working in KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:09 -0000 KDE 3.3.2 Any key combination that includes Ctrl+Shift doesn't work, e.g. Ctrl+Shift+C to MArk All Read in Thunderbird or Ctrl+Shift+D to Uncomment a line in KWrite. It is the combination that is ignored; Ctrl+ and Shift+ work as expected. I've looked at all the keyboard stuff in Regional 7 Accessibility but can't find anything. Anyone got any ideas? TIA Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:15:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A7116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from anarchy.primalinsanity.com (anarchy.primalinsanity.com [207.44.197.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682D743D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from villain@anarchy.primalinsanity.com) Received: from anarchy.primalinsanity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anarchy.primalinsanity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A41623500 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from villain@localhost) by anarchy.primalinsanity.com (8.13.1/8.13.0/Submit) id j0GHF5VB011049 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:05 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:02 +0000 From: villain To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050116171502.GA8764@anarchy.primalinsanity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: My 'ls' is all messed up?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:16 -0000 This happened today for unknown reasons: root# cd /etc ; ls X11/ disktab localtime netstart* phones remote aliases@ dumpdates locate.rc network.subr ppp/ resolv.conf aliases.db fbtab login.access networks printcap rmt@ amd.map fstab login.conf newsyslog.conf profile rpc apmd.conf ftpusers login.conf.db nsmb.conf protocols services auth.conf gettytab mac.conf nsswitch.conf pwd.db shells bluetooth/ gnats/ mail/ ntp.conf* rc skel/ crontab group mail.rc opieaccess rc.conf spwd.db csh.cshrc host.conf make.conf opiekeys rc.d/ ssh/ csh.login hosts manpath.config pam.d/ rc.firewall ssl/ csh.logout hosts.allow manpath.config.bak passwd rc.firewall6 sysctl.conf cvsupfile* hosts.equiv master.passwd pccard_ether* rc.resume* syslog.conf defaults/ hosts.lpd motd periodic/ rc.sendmail termcap@ devd.conf inetd.conf mtree/ periodic.conf* rc.shutdown ttys devfs.conf isdn/ namedb@ pf.conf rc.subr usbd.conf dhclient.conf issue.net netconfig pf.os rc.suspend* wall_cmos_clock What happened to the orderly fashion everything used to be displayed in? I haven't done anything to ls, nor anything else worth mentioning! Thanks, chris mv @ http://anarchy.primalinsanity.com/~villain/madvillain.jpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A6316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mato.luukku.com (mato.luukku.com [193.209.83.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2C043D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (mta3-o.i.luukku.com [10.0.1.132]) by mta3-o.i.luukku.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ACCFFAD1; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:15:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from rekon (92a7.dsl.mtv3.fi [82.203.167.146]) by mato.luukku.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DB3B122EE89; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:15:27 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:15:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:33 -0000 > last week I had a panic which caused the machine to halt and I posted > it here. No dump file though and no reply. All I did was telnet into > the machine and it panicked. > > So...before I give up on 5.3, I wanted to see if there was anything I > could do to help the developers track down this reboot_at_random > troubles. See the developers hanbook from the FreeBSD website: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ Section III chapter 11. FreBSD is quite well documented once you know where to find the information - and most of it can be found in the FreeBSD website. By the way did you only update the kernel, or did you do buildworld/installworld as well? -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:19:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEAD16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:19:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shadow.wixb.com (shadow.wixb.com [65.43.82.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4EE43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:18:24 -0600 To: "Reko Turja" From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:19:26 -0000 At 11:15 AM 1/16/2005, you wrote: >See the developers hanbook from the FreeBSD website: >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ >Section III chapter 11. FreBSD is quite well documented once you know >where to find the information - and most of it can be found in the FreeBSD >website. > >By the way did you only update the kernel, or did you do >buildworld/installworld as well? > >-Reko for the moment, I only did the kernel. I dont want to spend alot of time on this if its still unstable. Looks like as long as I add DDB to the kernel and make it, I should get some crash dump ? -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:26:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D7D16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:26:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mato.luukku.com (mato.luukku.com [193.209.83.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D61643D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (mta3-o.i.luukku.com [10.0.1.132]) by mta3-o.i.luukku.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49878FF87F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from rekon (92a7.dsl.mtv3.fi [82.203.167.146]) by mato.luukku.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D7C922EE8C; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:25 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <026901c4fbf0$895490c0$92a7cb52@rekon> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:26:26 -0000 > for the moment, I only did the kernel. I dont want to spend alot of > time on this if its still unstable. > > Looks like as long as I add DDB to the kernel and make it, I should > get some crash dump ? Yes, but you'll need to define the dump device and place to save the dump from the swap in the next reboot. In addition makeoptions DEBUG=-g is needed in the kernel config as well (symbols!) and options DDB_UNATTENDED can be a good idea. I think that separate kernel and userland is a bad idea, especially now, when you have 5.3_STABLE kernel, and 5.3_RELENG userland. There are small and subtle changes in both which make the correct userland/kernel combination vital and following the correct procedure of compiling/installing them. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:32:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E3316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:32:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEA943D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:32:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC458519F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:32:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:32:26 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: - Message-ID: <20050116173226.GA70453@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41EA6BE1.5090205@celeritystorm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EA6BE1.5090205@celeritystorm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD with ProPolice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:32:29 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:28:01PM +0000, - wrote: > Hey, >=20 > I'd like to know if this patch (=20 > http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/ ) still applies=20 > on 5.3-RELEASE. I know some apps need to write to the stack, and these=20 > will fail with this patch on.. Anyone knows of such commonly used=20 > applications ? A few years ago when I tried, XFree86 wouldn't work properly (probably the module loader). This is out of date information though. Kris --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6qUqWry0BWjoQKURAkDpAKDtKJ0C7WRgFOqUwaNMBm0fWrr8ewCfYju7 O/pliBEU7wl4Lg55Xo1hpfU= =StfJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:36:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1536716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:36:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBA343D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:36:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AA54B932; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:36:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:36:57 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050116173657.GA68560@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Steganographic FS for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:36:03 -0000 Hello, is there some equivalent to StegFS [1] on FreeBSD; preferably in combination with GBDE? Yes, I'm aware of the problem with StegFS cited in paragraph 4.1 of [2] by Poul-Henning Kamp: "If we include the attacker in the analysis, she will soon know that the facility used is STEGFS, and consequently that multiple levels of keys are not only a possibility but to be expected." However, having StegFS as an optional part of GBDE would be a good idea anyway. If everyone has a StegFS-capable GBDE by default in the OS, wouldn't that help increase the deniability of it being *used* in the first place? 1: http://www.mcdonald.org.uk/StegFS/ 2: http://phk.freebsd.dk/pubs/bsdcon-03.gbde.paper.pdf Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:44:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A8516A4D0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:44:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1F343D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:44:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0GHhwC3054170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41EAA854.1040500@mac.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:45:56 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Buelow References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41EA0B3F.3030209@incubus.de> In-Reply-To: <41EA0B3F.3030209@incubus.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:44:03 -0000 Matthias Buelow wrote: > Jonathan Chen wrote: >> Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD >> to release a binary version of Java. > > Even Apple doesn't show up in their radar... what do you expect. This is untrue. The Mac Runtime for Java is a high-priority environment for both Apple and Sun. Apple has been creating and pushing back some pretty significant improvements in how to share JVM's between processes more efficiently in terms of shared memory usage, and reduce the dynamic loading startup costs. > Java is as proprietary as it gets. (Unfortunately many of us need it.) Nonsense. While Java isn't OSI Open Source compliant, it's more open than anything which *doesn't* come with the sources included. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:57:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAF016A4E6 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:57:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3897A43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:57:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so241620rne for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:57:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=JsY96gaXG3pAhrNfAmi9IJxJFVTdtm1bLCVBmyahYeHnsI/4X9lArJZ7SXoI2E8zPWKgDYPQDCY3JBuATHaYjgKcAOGQrPHSbGlZWpsjYS/oEG9k38+zS+O9xMe2JP3koPWqK/Q8BS9YINw/K1i/gnAmFyjLNs2HZbqhTEToeQ4= Received: by 10.38.70.9 with SMTP id s9mr241372rna; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from Firebox ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 71sm693rnb.2005.01.16.09.57.02; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:57:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:26:43 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4FC22.D621BF40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcT79LxFfIIA+uj8Tqmm7AG/XC8PUA== Message-ID: <41eaaaf0.5c5fbd82.574c.0014@smtp.gmail.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Data Limiting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:57:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4FC22.D621BF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, I need your suggestion about limiting the data that can be transferred by each of the hosts on a LAN. Let me explain my setup. The hosts get internet access from a box running as a gateway (NAT). This box can't be touched as my boss won't allow me to do so. I have decided to run a FreeBSD box as a bridge between the NAT and the rest of the hosts of the LAN. Is it possible to limit the amount of Data transferred per month by each of the hosts of the LAN? If yes then how? It would also be nice if I could allow the users to see how much data they have already transferred. Thanks S. 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16 Jan 2005 12:13:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:13:31 -0600 From: John To: Jonathan Chen Message-ID: <20050116121331.A23356@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz>; from jonc@chen.org.nz on Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 07:04:42PM +1300 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:13:41 -0000 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 07:04:42PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:34:04PM -0600, John wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote: > > > Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > > > > > > > >>OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed > > > >>and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, > > > >>and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the > > > >>latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get > > > >>how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless > > > >>that's the only way to get a viable JRE. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the > > > > JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and > > > obviously linux emulation). > > > > > > PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires > > > java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be > > > safely removed. > > > > Oh, my word! They don't make this easy, do they??? > > Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD > to release a binary version of Java. Yes - that was the "they" I meant... -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:14:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817F116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B1E43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE08FFD01F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:14:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAAEEE.8000100@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:14:06 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subhro References: <41eaaaf0.5c5fbd82.574c.0014@smtp.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <41eaaaf0.5c5fbd82.574c.0014@smtp.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Data Limiting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:09 -0000 Subhro wrote: > I need your suggestion about limiting the data that can be transferred by > each of the hosts on a LAN. Let me explain my setup. The hosts get internet > access from a box running as a gateway (NAT). This box can't be touched as > my boss won't allow me to do so. I have decided to run a FreeBSD box as a > bridge between the NAT and the rest of the hosts of the LAN. Is it possible > to limit the amount of Data transferred per month by each of the hosts of > the LAN? If yes then how? It would also be nice if I could allow the users > to see how much data they have already transferred. Yes, you can consider two options, limiting bandwith - this can be done with pf or doing traffic accounting. pf traffic accounting unfortunately does not support distinction between up and download, I tried once to ask how to do this on the misc@openbsd.org list but got no usefull answer. You can also use ipfilter which has easier accounting IMO. I have done this with ipfilter - the problem is that accounting is not per user but per host, so you must assume that each user uses only the same host(s). Also, you need to register each host - this has the good benefit that you can combine it with a hardware list which is usefull in case of theft. The solution I created was to count download for each host pr day and sum up for the last 7 days, if this exeeded the acceptable limit the host would be blocked untill the sum for the last 7 days were again below the limit. A user could decide to "spend all quota" in one day or distribute evenly. Also, I created a web interface to let the user see the statistics for the last 7 days. I have been redeveloping this, and currently I can't give you anything close to stable :-( but really, it's all about scripting once you have the numbers out. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:14:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B686916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3468843D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0GIEpp23377; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:51 -0600 From: John To: Timothy Luoma Message-ID: <20050116121451.B23356@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from lists@tntluoma.com on Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:20:58AM -0500 cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:54 -0000 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:20:58AM -0500, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2005, at 5:18 PM, John wrote: > > > Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to > > support the environment I want? Maybe... > > FWIW, the day after Thanksgiving, BestBuy had a 250GB drive for $80 > after $100 rebate. Even if you can't find a deal that good, your time > is worth money, and if financially possible, even $50 will get you a > nice large hard drive these days and you can completely segregate > Windows onto another drive if you want. > > (Then again, I bought the drive basically on principle because it was > such a good deal, then I ended up buying a new desktop to put it in, so > you never know where these things will lead... but fortunately for me > it led me to finally have a 100% FreeBSD box) > > Sounds like you've since got it working, glad to hear it. Thanks for the info. I bet those weren't LAPTOP hard drives at those prices, though... On my servers, I have a couple of 73Gb (SCSI) drives... -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:21:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C838A16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:21:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4841143D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:21:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0GIKuq23409; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:20:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:20:56 -0600 From: John To: Mick Walker Message-ID: <20050116122056.C23356@starfire.mn.org> References: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org>; from mwalker@codegurus.org on Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:36:41PM +0000 cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:21:00 -0000 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:36:41PM +0000, Mick Walker wrote: > Hi all, > I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it > is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0. > However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions > in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access > point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all. > Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working? > If you need any other data, I would be happy to help. You need to issue a command like ifconfig wi0 ssid "whatever it is" wepmode on wepkey 0xsomehexstring then wait about 15 seconds (the docs say 5, but that's too short in my experience) and then dhcpclient wi0 unless you are hardcoding the IP address, in which case, include that on the ifconig line with "inet oct1.oct2.oct3.oct4 netmask oct5.oct6.oct7.oct8" in addition to the other parameters above. I don't know how to use Wep pass phrases, 'cause I don't use them. I think the pass phrases just provides data to munge to generate the keys. I use it - I love it - I'll be glad to help any way I can. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:27:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C5016A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:27:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A04C43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7EBFD01F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:27:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAB1FD.1030508@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:27:09 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu References: <20050116153513.WNGG29966.viefep20-int.chello.at@hyperduron> In-Reply-To: <20050116153513.WNGG29966.viefep20-int.chello.at@hyperduron> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPF firewalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:27:12 -0000 Kövesdán Gábor wrote: > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 keep state > pass in quick proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep frags First I see that you have left out "on rl0" in this line. > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 42 keep state keep > frags you don't need this. dns uses port 53, both tcp and udp. > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 keep state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 keep state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 keep state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 keep state use flags S for all tcp rules for your security. > block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any > block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from any > to any > block in quick on rl0 all > > pass in quick on lo0 all > pass out quick on lo0 all > > Everything seems okay, but the named. Neiher the ISP's nameserver (set by > the dhcp) nor the local nameserver works. BIND 9 wrote this to > /var/log/messages: > > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: starting BIND 9.3.0 -u named -t > /usr/local/named -c /etc/named.conf > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: address > in use > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: address > in use > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: not listening on any interfaces > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: /etc/named.conf:14: couldn't add command > channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in > use > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: > permission denied > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: > permission denied > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > interface ignored > > > The rndc doesn't matter, I'm not going to use it, but the neither named can > listen on the network and the loopback interface. Could You suggest me any > solution for this trouble? Btw, this machine is going to be a web, dns, > mail, etc. server and is being tested on an ordinary cable connection, > that's why I'm using dhcp. First, the named problem does not seem to relate with the firewall ruleset - try take the host off line, flush all rules and see if you can start named or get the same error. For your security, I suggest you use groups to organize the rules and write a default action explicitly, first lines: block in all block out all (no quick here). Then split according to interface, first let lo0 loose: pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all follow with groups for each interface. Groups really helps you tracking down filter problems and staying sane. See the ipf-howto. Also be consistent using "keep state keep frags" and "flags S" everywhere. I see you have tried to setup ftp also in the above ruleset, ftp won't work with this, but it really requires understanding of ftp to get it right. Maybe keep it simple and remove ftp for a start. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:38:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5EA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:38:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0BD43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:38:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF5F6520BA; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:31 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Hamad M." Message-ID: <20050116183831.GA86402@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41EA4772.7020104@kuwaitnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EA4772.7020104@kuwaitnet.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildkernel fails with 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:38:34 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:52:34PM +0300, Hamad M. wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have been trying to build a custom kernel, but I kept getting this= =20 > error: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> bktr/bktr > cc -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -include=20 > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/shabab/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq=20 > -I@/../include -finline-limit=3D8000 -fno-common =20 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/shabab -mno-align-long-strings=20 > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls=20 > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes=20 > -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -c= =20 > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c: In=20 > function `vbi_read': > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261:=20 > error: `FNDELAY' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261:=20 > error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261:=20 > error: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Any clue on how to get rid of this? I believed this was fixed already, so try to cvsup again. Kris --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6rSmWry0BWjoQKURAkJSAKCqjsSCvW4JhNEecv1W1Y34mWWrugCgoEiM 7+8oRtJBne/gJbP1ptqT4Kw= =rfgL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:01:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08A516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:01:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A7943D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:01:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A85BBD609 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id BDA0417480 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:03 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 00912-01 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:03 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3607B1747E for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAB9F2.8060008@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:06 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de Subject: [INFO] buildworld problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:01:06 -0000 Hello, today I had two problems while/after building world. I did upgrade my FreeBSD system using CVSup against the following brachn tag ... *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 Issue #1: --------- while compiling the kernel sources, the build process did stop after trying to build the Brooktree TV Tuner drivers. I have to mention that I did try to update a server system which does not have any builtin TV card. Anyway, the problem here was that the following line was missing in the bktr_core.c source file: #include Because of the missing line, FNDELAY was undefined. Issue #2: --------- After successfully building/installing both world and my new custom kernel I had to realize, that /etc/rc.d/ldconfig wasn't executed during the boot process. As a result I was not able to start most of the programs that I did install to /usr/local. After executing /etc/rc.d/ldconfig, anything seems to work as expected. Can you help me with issue #2? Why does the system refuse to execute /etc/rc.d/ldconfig while booting the system? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:24:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DA216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:24:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vmx10.multikabel.net (vmx10.multikabel.net [212.127.254.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E86843D53 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from koendewijs@gmx.net) Received: from vmx30.multikabel.net ([212.127.254.138]) by vmx10.multikabel.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqG0E-0004ZB-7P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:58 +0100 Received: from [10.10.10.20] (84-107-21-88.dsl.quicknet.nl [84.107.21.88]) by vmx30.multikabel.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0GJNrM1028633 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:53 +0100 Message-ID: <41EABF33.1040801@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:31 +0100 From: koen de wijs User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MultiKabel-MailScanner-Information: Please contact helpdesk@quicknet.nl for more information X-MultiKabel-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MultiKabel-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner-Information: Please contact helpdesk@quicknet.nl for more information X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: koendewijs@gmx.net Subject: programming languages and visual programming under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:24:05 -0000 Hallo, I'm just new wtih unix and FreeBSD and I have a question about programming languages, I want to learn some of them but don't know where to start. I heard that C is the most powerfull language under unix and almost the complete system is written under it. You can do everything with it. Where is a good toturial? Can you read and write directly with the printer port or does the kernell block that?? I got a programm from someone that putted some assmebler in his c programm to adress the printer port. And where can I find an overview of all the *.h files that you can use under FreeBSD Are there any visual programming tools under FreeBSD, like click and drag like microsoft visual c? The only options that I found where: GTK, KDE libs and Gnome libs or directly tlak with the x server. The other languages that I know are: Perl, I could only find that it is especially for tasks for your system and that it's based on C Shell scripts, for tasks for your systems and simple programms Python. What are the advantages of these languages above C and are there more programming languages under FreeBSD? I don't want to start a war, where everybody says "What I'm doing is best", like microsoft! I just want to know what are the common advantages of those languages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:33:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952B016A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from viefep11-int.chello.at (viefep11-int.chello.at [213.46.255.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E9743D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu) Received: from hyperduron ([80.99.33.169]) by viefep11-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with ESMTP id <20050116193347.WMON10341.viefep11-int.chello.at@hyperduron>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:33:47 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?S/Z2ZXNk4W4gR+Fib3I=?=" To: "'Erik Norgaard'" Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:34:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Thread-Index: AcT7+QFFRyZmAzLlSNOuZ9JpnGwlnwABwY1g In-Reply-To: <41EAB1FD.1030508@locolomo.org> Message-Id: <20050116193347.WMON10341.viefep11-int.chello.at@hyperduron> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: IPF firewalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:50 -0000 Hello, Thanks for your answer, I've modified my rules as You suggested, but I haven't made groups yet. Thus the new ruleset is: # I don't want to filter outgoing packets pass out quick all # The incoming packets for dhcp, dns, ssh, mail, ftp, www pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 68 keep state = keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 53 keep state = keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 53 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 22 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 25 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 21 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 20 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 80 flags S keep = state keep frags # Some advanced stuff - will be set later #block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any #block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from = any to any #block in quick on rl0 all # Allow everything for the loopback interface pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all I ran the ipf -Fa && ipf -f /etc/ipf.rules2 command (ipf.rules2 is this ruleset) via ssh, but then my connection closed, and I was unable to reconnect via ssh until flushing the rules and loading this ruleset: pass in all pass out all Best wishes, G=E1bor K=F6vesd=E1n From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:40:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E055716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:40:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556D043D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:40:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b220.otenet.gr [212.205.244.228]) j0GJeiAH007379; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:40:45 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0GJej7N007355; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:40:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0GJej1U007354; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:40:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:40:44 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: koen de wijs Message-ID: <20050116194044.GA6242@gothmog.gr> References: <41EABF33.1040801@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EABF33.1040801@gmx.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: programming languages and visual programming under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:40:51 -0000 On 2005-01-16 20:23, koen de wijs wrote: > I heard that C is the most powerfull language under unix and almost > the complete system is written under it. You can do everything with > it. Where is a good toturial? Many good C resources are available online at: http://www.eskimo.com/%7Escs/C-faq/top.html You can also find some references for printed books there. The C language is not difficult to start using, but there _are_ some finer points that newcomers can grasp more easily after reading a few printed books. > Can you read and write directly with the printer port or does the > kernell block that? Accessing the hardware directly is one of the most unportable things you can do with C and UNIX. You should try using the proper device file instead, if possible. For printers that would be /dev/lpt0, /dev/lpt1, etc. > I got a programm from someone that putted some assmebler in his c > programm to adress the printer port. Very unportable, as I said above. Writing a C program that uses fopen() or open() on the /dev/lpt0 file (or any other lpt device), would be much preferable. > And where can I find an overview of all the *.h files that you can > use under FreeBSD The manpages that define the relevant APIs are usually your best bet. Then, when you are experienced enough with C you may start reading the *.h files under /usr/include directly. > Are there any visual programming tools under FreeBSD, like click and > drag like microsoft visual c? The only options that I found where: > GTK, KDE libs and Gnome libs or directly tlak with the x server. I'm sure there are some. A lot of people like using IDEs like KDevelop or Eclipse. The good thing about the compilers and other tools of FreeBSD is that you don't *have* to use an IDE though. A good editor is usually all one needs. This is why many people prefer to stay away from IDEs altogether and use vim or Emacs to edit their programs instead. > The other languages that I know are: Perl, I could only find that it > is especially for tasks for your system and that it's based on C Shell > scripts, for tasks for your systems and simple programms Python. > > What are the advantages of these languages above C and are there more > programming languages under FreeBSD? This is a very difficult question to answer without getting you to learn all the relevant languages first. Every language has its own merits, I guess. You can learn as many of them as you like, or you can pick 2-3 of them and stick with them. The choise is yours to make... - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:41:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE12416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:41:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E03843D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:41:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 65756 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 19:41:16 -0000 Received: from batv-01-042.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.43) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 19:41:16 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050116134019.053732b0@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:40:36 -0600 To: koen de wijs From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <41EABF33.1040801@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: programming languages and visual programming under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:41:18 -0000 At 13:23 1/16/2005, koen de wijs wrote: > >Are there any visual programming tools under FreeBSD, like click and=20 >drag like microsoft visual c? http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/ Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:14:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEBA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6D643D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:14:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0GKEFRZ035729 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0GKEEnU081231 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0GKEEFT081230 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:14 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050116201414.GA76014@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: gmirror: replacing failed disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:14:17 -0000 Hello, I've got a bootable gmirror running on identical SATA drives on 5.3-STABLE. The technique I've used to build the gmirror can be found on http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/gmirror, under the heading "GEOM mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible". Now I'd like to experiment with replacing a "failed" drive. This particular box has hot-swappable drives, so all I need to do is pull a drive out while the box is running. The man page states: One disk failed. Replace it with a brand new one: gmirror forget data gmirror insert data da1 (My system has a provider gm0s1 with ad4 and ad6 as consumers, so I'll use those device names) Simulate ad4 failing: pull the drive put the drive back in, reboot if necessary to detect drive # gmirror forget gm0s1 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 # size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -B -f- -i /dev/ad4 OR # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 (Now wait two hours for the drives synchronize) That should work, yes? How does gmirror know about /dev/ad4s1 if that drive was previously unformatted or brand new? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:20:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3530916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web26503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web26503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79E6643D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdbod@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 82607 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jan 2005 20:20:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20050116202011.82605.qmail@web26503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.55.150.153] by web26503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:11 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:11 +0000 (GMT) From: BSD Bod To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: ipnat port forwarding froblem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:13 -0000 Hi All, I have an ADSL router with some very basic Firewall connecting my internal network to the internet. I now want to give myself greater flexibility and protection and so I have been attempting to set a 3 homed host running a firewall with nat. This host needs to route packets between 2 further networks, 1 as a dmz and the other as a protected network, layout as follows: Internet | ----------- --------------| Router |-------------- ----------- 192.168.0.1 Min protected Net | ------------ 192.168.0.2 - dc0 --------------| Firewall |------------- 192.168.1.2 - dc1 ------------ 192.168.2.2 - rl0 DMZ Net | Protected Net | I have tried using both ipfilter+ipnat and pf, and even tried OpenBSD, but always have the same problem that forwarding from the protected net and the dmz net to the internet fails (no route to host). My current configuration is using ipfilter+ipnat on FreeBSD 5.3 The firewall can reach the internet, dmz and protected net ok and sysctl -a reveals that net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 and also redirect=1. My ipnat rules are as folows: map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> 192.168.0.2/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:20000 map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> 192.168.0.2/32 map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 -> 192.168.0.2/32 portmap tcp/udp 20001:40000 map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 -> 192.168.0.2/32 In order to get this working I have my internal firewall open, so that it does not cause an issue. For now I just want to get this working using ipfilter+ipnat and when I know what the problem is I will try implementing it using pf. In the past I have had a firewall connecting to a ADSL modem using PPPoA running ipfw and natd on FreeBSD 4.8, but this is a different configuration. I am completely out of ideas, so all are welcome. Thanks in advance. Tim Preece. ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:23:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E440516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D3543D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116142101.00bfef60@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:23:54 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: setup of Bind9 on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:56 -0000 I have cvs'd and built world and now I want to use the native bind9 to run DNS. I am very familiar with chrooting named, but for some reason I cannot get this going.... If I use ISC's bind 9 built from scratch, it will chroot just fine. Does anyone have a sample named.conf for chrooting that shows loading of 1 zone and the hints file? (technically not needed with bind9, but doesnt hurt) In addition, the dir structure of /var/named would be nice to see. normally I setup chroot jail for named like this: /var/named: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 Aug 16 12:04 dev drwxr-xr-x 2 root named 512 Aug 16 12:04 etc drwxrwx--- 2 root named 512 Sep 1 2003 log drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 Jan 16 10:02 master drwxrwx--- 2 root named 512 Jan 16 10:04 run drwxrwxr-x 2 root named 1024 Dec 30 19:40 slave drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 Apr 7 2004 standard this approach does not seem to work with using STOCK named.... any help will be appreciated! -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:23:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B493B16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk (heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk [62.41.128.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B75543D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nbco@screaming.net) Received: from [192.168.2.3] ([62.55.107.164])j0GIKAS23041; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:20:11 GMT From: nbco To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lahaye@romeo.snu.ac.kr; Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:43 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050116141521.B91CD43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050116141521.B91CD43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501162023.43840.nbco@screaming.net> Subject: Re: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nbco@screaming.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:56 -0000 On Sunday 16 January 2005 14:15, Rob Lahaye wrote: > Rob Lahaye wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've just upgraded all my software from recent ports. > > Now realplayer (10.0.2_1) doesn't run anymore, because it cannot > > find its libraries: > > > > $ ldd /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin | grep "not found" > > libX11.so.6 => not found > > libXrandr.so.2 => not found > > libXi.so.6 => not found > > libXext.so.6 => not found > > libXft.so.2 => not found > > libXrender.so.1 => not found > > libX11.so.6 => not found > > libXft.so.2 => not found > > libXrender.so.1 => not found > > libX11.so.6 => not found > > $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > > Meanwhile I've solved the problem with a: > > # portupgrade -frRv linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1 Hi, It appears as though after the recent ports/emulators/linux_base version bump ( see ports/UPDATING), that the Linux X11 libraries are not appearing in /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache. realplayer was not the only affected port - acroread was also affected; both are linux binaries which run under emulation. Another fix is to do the following: 1) Add the following line to /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf: /usr/X11R6/lib 2) Re-run /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. This will cause the runtime ELF linker cache for the Linuxolator to be regenerated with the location of the Linux X11 libraries added to the search path, and thus the libraries should then appear in the cache. You should then be able to run acroread, realplayer etc. without further problems, even after a reboot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:45:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BAA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1B643D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0E21B51813; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:56 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Daniel S. Haischt" Message-ID: <20050116204456.GA18002@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41EAB9F2.8060008@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EAB9F2.8060008@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [INFO] buildworld problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:00 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 08:01:06PM +0100, Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > Anyway, the problem here was that the following > line was missing in the bktr_core.c source file: >=20 > #include >=20 > Because of the missing line, FNDELAY was undefined. At least this one, and possibly the other, were already resolved. cvsup and retry. Kris --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6tJIWry0BWjoQKURAtBZAKComITvOOMSWlWRFfI2ZFvzvl6QPgCg8TD4 Y9vbeSV0F8em8TZhkyvqtvw= =ZlBl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:45:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378C916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5A143D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B02651813; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:45:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:45:46 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: nbco Message-ID: <20050116204546.GB18002@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050116141521.B91CD43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <200501162023.43840.nbco@screaming.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501162023.43840.nbco@screaming.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: lahaye@romeo.snu.ac.kr Subject: Re: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:47 -0000 --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 08:23:43PM +0000, nbco wrote: > It appears as though after the recent ports/emulators/linux_base version= =20 > bump ( see ports/UPDATING), that the Linux X11 libraries are not=20 > appearing in /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache. Please report this to the maintainer (freebsd-emulation@), with as much supporting information as you can. Kris --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6tJ6Wry0BWjoQKURAl9PAJ9r6XRDSS8TUs4xs4SF4S6FjlzV/ACg85yS ZUgnY9lYZOCvUDiKcKTcHds= =eWWO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 21:00:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910DA16A4D0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:00:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F4943D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:00:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B181FD01F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:00:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAD5E8.9060100@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:00:24 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu References: <20050116193347.WMON10341.viefep11-int.chello.at@hyperduron> In-Reply-To: <20050116193347.WMON10341.viefep11-int.chello.at@hyperduron> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPF firewalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:00:29 -0000 Kövesdán Gábor wrote: > Thanks for your answer, I've modified my rules as You suggested, but I > haven't made groups yet. Thus the new ruleset is: But did you resolve the named problem? > # I don't want to filter outgoing packets > pass out quick all > > # The incoming packets for dhcp, dns, ssh, mail, ftp, www > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 keep state keep > frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep > frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 53 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 flags S keep state > keep frags > > # Some advanced stuff - will be set later > #block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any > #block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from any > to any > #block in quick on rl0 all > > # Allow everything for the loopback interface > pass in quick on lo0 all > pass out quick on lo0 all Now reading this - maybe you left out the default action at the top of the ruleset? - I only see pass rules and unless you compiled your kernel with default block, then default is pass, leaving your host with no effective firewall at all. > I ran the ipf -Fa && ipf -f /etc/ipf.rules2 command (ipf.rules2 is this > ruleset) via ssh, but then my connection closed, and I was unable to > reconnect via ssh until flushing the rules and loading this ruleset: > pass in all > pass out all Should suffice just to flush the rules, unless you compile your kernel with default block. Whatever default is, it is always a good idea for clarity to include a catch all rule. Also, make sure to add "log" and start ipmon, when something falls through or is blocked for other reasons, you have a log entry stating which rule blocked so you can debug your ruleset. - I see I left it out in the default rules I suggested, these rules should go at top of the file: block out log all block in log all Whatever falls through your ruleset will be logged so you can analyse it. When you flush your rulesets, the state table is not flushed, so you shouldn't loose your connection. Also, I recommend you reading rules into the inactive ruletable first. Then swap. This way you make sure your rules does not contain typos and you don't leave your firewall/host vulnerable. # ipf -IFa && ipf -I -f && ipf -s && sleep 60 && ipf -s lets you test the new ruleset 60 seconds, should you loose connection. If things work then # ipf -Ifa && ipf -I -f && ipf -s && ipf -IFa Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 21:47:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC1416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:47:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8167943D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:47:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0GLlQL24096; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:47:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:47:26 -0600 From: John To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20050116154726.A24033@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> <200501152335.49531.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501152335.49531.krinklyfig@spymac.com>; from krinklyfig@spymac.com on Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:35:49PM -0800 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:47:32 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:35:49PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Saturday 15 January 2005 09:57 pm, John wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > > On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John > wrote: > > > > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web > > > > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just > > > > is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU > > > > isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is > > > > waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I > > > > said, on other web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops > > > > with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it > > > > pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it > > > > pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to > > > > the server. VERY odd. > > > > > > Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some > > > images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this > > > happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm > > > not entirely > > > > Thanks for your response, Joshua! > > > > Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I > > supplied, but it is not what's happening. I can have my Windoze > > work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up > > these pages in a snap. Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits > > there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network. > > You may have an issue with DNS. You should have DNS servers listed in > your /etc/resolv.conf, like this: > > nameserver 888.888.888.888 Well, I have a local-caching DNS server running on my gateway/NAT/ firewall FreeBSD system. DHCP is correctly populating /etc/resolv.conf with the correct value. SOME web sites work great, others show this very bawky behaivor. A Windows laptop running on the same network referring to the same local DNS server has no such problem. I can set them up side-by-side, and the results are deterministic and predictable. I've seen DNS problems cause some pretty bizarre behaviors, so I hate to dismiss this out-of-hand, but I think these facts argue against a DNS configuration issue, but I could easily be missing something. > (the number is an example - you should use your ISP's nameserver or your > internal one, if you've set it up) Using the internal one, as noted above, same as the Windows laptop uses. > Is this also an issue with other browsers or network software? If you > haven't done so already, you should try Firefox or Opera and see if > Konqueror is the problem. Yes - I will load them up and try them. > > > sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know > > > what the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as > > > there are often page elements which depend on the placement of > > > other elements to determine their own placement. However, AFAIK > > > this is also considered a bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle > > > this issue gracefully, so (again AFAIR) this is something that the > > > KDE project is working to correct. I seem to remember something > > > about this waiting until KDE version 4, however. I don't speak for > > > them, so apologies if this isn't entirely correct. > > > > > > > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win > > > > 98. 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD > > > > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD > > > > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working > > > > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) > > > > a CD in my laptop multi-bay > > > > > > Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom > > > > Oh, yeah - it's not in dmesgs. 4.x used to at least have an > > atapi-slave ID timeout, but this doesn't even do that - the kernel > > just pauses and goes on without any message. > > > > It's pretty bizarre - 4.x would boot and actually INSTALL from the > > CD, but when you booted from the hard drive, I'd get the ID timeout > > message. 5.x boots from the CD, but then can't even install from it. > > I boot the CD, then eject it, bring it to another system, and > > NFS mount it to complete the installation. Kludgy, but it works. > > OK when I'm at home with the other systems, but not much good > > when I'm traveling with the laptop... ;) > > That's strange. It appears to mount the CD and then unmount it, though > I'm not sure. Do you have the correct drivers for your CD? > > > > You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it. > > > > I appreciate thoroughness. > > > > > BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but > > > unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my > > > hardware. > > > > Yup - I was just making a little "to do" list, in case anyone had > > any caveats to yell out. I've already heard from the folks on > > the ACPI list - I have some "to do's" to try. > > Good luck. There be dragons. Yeah... you got that right! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:15:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC7416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA1FB43D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 4278 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 22:15:02 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 22:15:02 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:14:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050116201414.GA76014@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20050116201414.GA76014@polands.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501162315.01954.4711@chello.at> Subject: Re: gmirror: replacing failed disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 16 January 2005 21:14, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a bootable gmirror running on identical SATA drives on > 5.3-STABLE. The technique I've used to build the gmirror can be found > on http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/gmirror, under the heading "GEOM > mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible". Now I'd > like to experiment with replacing a "failed" drive. This particular box > has hot-swappable drives, so all I need to do is pull a drive out while > the box is running. > > The man page states: > > One disk failed. Replace it with a brand new one: > > gmirror forget data > gmirror insert data da1 > > (My system has a provider gm0s1 with ad4 and ad6 as consumers, so I'll > use those device names) > > Simulate ad4 failing: > > pull the drive > put the drive back in, reboot if necessary to detect drive After you put the drive in, you can try to attach or reinit the controller channel where it's connected to with the command 'atacontrol'. If you put the same drive in, and you haven't zeroed the bootblocks and the slicetable (on ad4) geom will recognice that the missing disk has been re-attached and will start rebuilding. If you want to simulate insertion of a blank disk, run the 'gmirror forget' command before you re-attach disk ad4. Then dd the first few blocks and the last sector of the old slice, where the gmirror metadata are stored. You can do this by 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=1 skip=n', where n=number of sectors to be skipped. In your case it's better, if you check where the metadata are stored. Maybe they are stored at the end of your disk. I think of this because of your gmirror list output, where ad4 and ad6 are listed as consumers. > # gmirror forget gm0s1 > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 You are missing the "&&" operator here. > # size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size > \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` && (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -B ^^ > -f- -i /dev/ad4 > OR > # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 > > # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 > > (Now wait two hours for the drives synchronize) > > That should work, yes? How does gmirror know about /dev/ad4s1 if that > drive was previously unformatted or brand new? That should work, if you create the slice with 'fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4', but on the other hand, it would be very interresting, if gmirror really handles the consumers as they are displayed by your gmirror list command. I would blank disk ad4 (as I described above) and see what happens when you issue the command 'gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4'. Maybe gmirror handles drives with one slice that covers the whole drive, as disks (instead of slices)? I would give it a try. (If you try this, please could you post or pm me the 'gmirror list' output? Thank you!) Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6udl09WjGjvKU74RAsVAAJ4sDZKZ8qZqxVf927yQXBxK7HO/ZwCfdWnL OWuuqs6UMMjwaK/1E9Ewm/o= =0IXG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:16:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961F916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:16:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CA743D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:16:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0GMGMRw069204; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:16:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-4-905070250" Message-Id: <4EBE8096-680C-11D9-8D05-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:16:45 -0600 To: "J.D. Bronson" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: Reko Turja cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:16:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4-905070250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 16, 2005, at 11:18 AM, J.D. Bronson wrote: > At 11:15 AM 1/16/2005, you wrote: >> See the developers hanbook from the FreeBSD website: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ >> Section III chapter 11. FreBSD is quite well documented once you know >> where to find the information - and most of it can be found in the >> FreeBSD website. >> >> By the way did you only update the kernel, or did you do >> buildworld/installworld as well? >> >> -Reko > > for the moment, I only did the kernel. I dont want to spend alot of > time on this if its still unstable. > > Looks like as long as I add DDB to the kernel and make it, I should > get some crash dump ? It's always a good idea to upgrade the entire system, kernel ad userland. I would recommend doing so and see where you go from there. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-4-905070250 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHq580ACgkQRAAY9knOW+rwbACdEI27w8iqDfU/NmMVy5nLsuV8 LrAAn1HgHnHiimRHbZpC3G9UFuTZo9m0 =JPG8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-4-905070250-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:30:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BCE16A4D0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:30:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4261D43D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:30:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116162955.00c1d1b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:20 -0600 To: Eric F Crist From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <4EBE8096-680C-11D9-8D05-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <4EBE8096-680C-11D9-8D05-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: Reko Turja cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:30:22 -0000 At 04:16 PM 1/16/2005, Eric F Crist wrote: >It's always a good idea to upgrade the entire system, kernel ad >userland. I would recommend doing so and see where you go from there. Yes...I did this now.....it was easy and only took an 1hr on a P4-3.06 :) -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED7E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:41:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from epz01.nefonline.de (epz01.nefonline.de [212.204.66.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB68A43D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from J.Keil@gmx.de) Received: from sillium.dyndns.org (DSL01.83.171.151.200.NEFkom.net [83.171.151.200]) by epz01.nefonline.de (NEFkom Mailservice) with SMTP id j0GMevX18241 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:40:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 19257 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 22:40:57 -0000 Received: from semeon.lokal.lan (HELO ?192.168.1.7?) (192.168.1.7) by columbus.lokal.lan with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 22:40:57 -0000 Message-ID: <41EAED79.8080504@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:40:57 +0100 From: Jochen Keil User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:41:01 -0000 Hi all. I got a dual Piii 800 box here with these specifications: -Supermicro 370DL3 Mainboard -Adaptec aic7892 Ultra160 SCSI adapter (onboard) -2x 256MB Micron ECC RAM (tested with memtest) -2x IBM IC35L036UWDY10-0 (SCSI Drives, only one connected for testing) -LG GSA-4040B (connected via onboard IDE Controller) (a few IDE drives which weren't connected für testing) Full dmesg output is attached to the end of this email. Now to the description of my problem. I tested various Operating systems on this box, FreeBSD 5.3, NetBSD 2.0, FreeBSD 4.11 and an elder version of the Knoppix (Linux 2.4) CD. Every installation except FreeBSD 4.11 showed almost the same behaviour when doing the following test. First i ran iozone on the SCSI drive. While the benchmark was performed i issued a ping to another host in the network. The result drove me insane. Wether with the onboard fxp0 either the em0 i was able to get a "stable" ping response time which looks like that: i get a bunch (~20-30, depends on disk io) of ping response times around 0.2ms and then there are some really long response times above 1ms (the longest took about 90ms). However FreeBSD 4.x seems to be the only exception to this as it gives me over a complete iozone test only three pings with a response time around 1ms. The other ping times are mostly around 0.2ms with some seldom peaks at 0.5-0.6ms. Due to this behaviour i figured out that this cannot be the fault of the hardware, at least i hope so. A hint from a NetBSD Mailing List pointed me to have a look at the interrupts. On disk IO the interrupt rate on ahc0 is going up to around 300/s. But this is all the same for FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x (i used vmstat -i for that). There also seems to be no difference between using SMP and a single CPU kernel (Information based on FreeBSD 5.3 and NetBSD 2.0 tests as i didn't test this with FreeBSD 4.11 yet). Now i am really puzzled because i cannot understand why 4.x behaves relatively good compared to 5.x on this specific issue. Is there a good explanation or does one have to investigate this further? The NetBSD Mailing List i'm talking about can be found here: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2005/01/. (Discussion starts on 05.01.2005: High Load / bad response times). I'm looking forward to your answers and with kind regards, Jochen Keil Dmesg from 4.11: FreeBSD 4.11-RC2 #0: Sun Jan 2 09:47:04 GMT 2005 root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Intel Pentium III (799.62-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 536805376 (524224K bytes) config> di pcic0 config> di psm0 config> di sio1 config> di sio0 config> di ppc0 config> di fdc0 config> di bt0 config> di ata1 config> di aic0 config> di aha0 config> di adv0 config> q avail memory = 516833280 (504720K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0556000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc055609c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f5230 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 3.0 irq 11 fxp0: port 0xd800-0xd83f mem 0xfe800000-0xfe8fffff,0xfe9ef000-0xfe9effff irq 9 at device 6.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:30:48:21:74:63 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 10 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib1: on motherboard pci1: on pcib1 ahc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebff000-0xfebfffff irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci1 aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs orm0: It should have the real wmv file in src tag, just a think. PS: I run on FreeBSD5.3-p5(i386) with mozilla 1.7.2 and newest cvsup mplayer, plugins. On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:53:26 +0900 Nguyen Le Hinh wrote: > Hi alls, > Can anyone hear the online streaming music from this website: > http://www.nhatrangngaynay.net/music/index.php?act=view&code=song&ssid=12&id=625 > I installed both mplayer plugin and plugger but still not be able to > hear it.Any ideas for it? > Thanks, > Ps :The above address will be ok with windows... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 10:11:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D591816A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:11:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp04.eresmas.com (asmtp04.eresmas.com [62.81.235.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5997743D41 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:11:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.56] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp04.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CrvlQ-00042K-Ql; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:11:36 +0100 Received: from [80.103.41.187] (helo=[80.103.41.187]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CrvlO-0004h2-GI; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:11:36 +0100 Message-ID: <41F044F4.9070706@wanadoo.es> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:55:32 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jorn Argelo References: <41EFA65E.80307@wanadoo.es> <20050120125840.M1382@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050120125840.M1382@wcborstel.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) cc: freebsd-questions-en Subject: Re: I do not understand kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:11:39 -0000 Jorn Argelo wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:38:54 +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote > >>Hello friends. >> >>I am a FreeBSD newbie, I am going to ask you a question that I have not >>been able to solve reading the manual. I am using 5.3 release. I have >>compiled a custom kernel in my old pentium 75 MHz machine to include >>the driver for my sound card. I added the following lines to the kernel >>config file >> >>device sound >>device "snd_es137x" >> >>and compiled the kernel perfectly. (long time.... ;-) ) >> >>But there is something that I do not understand well. When I look at >>the contents of /boot/kernel/ directory, I found that there are >>kernel sound modules *.ko for every sound card the kernel supports. >>Should not there be my sound card module alone? Does It mean that >>you have to compile all the stuff, even if you are going to use only >>one kind of sound card? Am I missing something? > > > Your sound card has been build into the kernel itself (which is /boot/kernel/ > kernel AFAIK). The *.ko are kernel modules, which you can load using the > kldload command. So in case you get a new sound card, find out what driver it > supports and you can use kldload .ko to get support for your sound > card without recompiling your kernel. Yes, I understand now. The problem is that my old pentium machine takes very long time to compile all the modules even if I am not going to use them. I would like to compile only the modules I use, to reduce compiling time. Is that possible? Thanks > > Cheers, > > Jorn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 10:25:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DF916A4CF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:25:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C9F43D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:25:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so76715wra for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:25:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PhSMfcLUTAd5MuMkerqdzIPw+dcxBf1h4Wtvx8jyU/9ZpStEPoavxmeeyx0uCVyuMZpziPAKajuZfupAMwktL2ZNs+YXqnpMONjpZLrAyTC1eCzLaiLv2rnZ3FusL8aHXER8XPchWjV3xIGU3j9qoTIjTTeKj8MZQiZe03lhWow= Received: by 10.54.38.39 with SMTP id l39mr157809wrl; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.50.29 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:25:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7daacbbe050121022516c0671@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:25:15 +0100 From: Dominique Goncalves To: Ramiro Aceves In-Reply-To: <41F044F4.9070706@wanadoo.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41EFA65E.80307@wanadoo.es> <20050120125840.M1382@wcborstel.nl> <41F044F4.9070706@wanadoo.es> cc: Jorn Argelo cc: freebsd-questions-en Subject: Re: I do not understand kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dominique Goncalves List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:25:17 -0000 Hello, You can use this options : NO_MODULES= true # do not build modules with the kernel MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true # do not build modules when building kernel in your /etc/make.conf, read /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf for more options. Regards. On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:55:32 +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote: > Jorn Argelo wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:38:54 +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote > > > >>Hello friends. > >> > >>I am a FreeBSD newbie, I am going to ask you a question that I have not > >>been able to solve reading the manual. I am using 5.3 release. I have > >>compiled a custom kernel in my old pentium 75 MHz machine to include > >>the driver for my sound card. I added the following lines to the kernel > >>config file > >> > >>device sound > >>device "snd_es137x" > >> > >>and compiled the kernel perfectly. (long time.... ;-) ) > >> > >>But there is something that I do not understand well. When I look at > >>the contents of /boot/kernel/ directory, I found that there are > >>kernel sound modules *.ko for every sound card the kernel supports. > >>Should not there be my sound card module alone? Does It mean that > >>you have to compile all the stuff, even if you are going to use only > >>one kind of sound card? Am I missing something? > > > > > > Your sound card has been build into the kernel itself (which is /boot/kernel/ > > kernel AFAIK). The *.ko are kernel modules, which you can load using the > > kldload command. So in case you get a new sound card, find out what driver it > > supports and you can use kldload .ko to get support for your sound > > card without recompiling your kernel. > > > Yes, I understand now. The problem is that my old pentium machine takes > very long time to compile all the modules even if I am not going to use > them. I would like to compile only the modules I use, to reduce > compiling time. Is that possible? > > Thanks > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Jorn > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 10:47:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B04F16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:47:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from thingy.apana.org.au (adsl-175.isp.net.au [202.1.119.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9269C43D3F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:47:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from fun by thingy.apana.org.au with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CrwKF-0004I1-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:47:35 +1100 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:47:34 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050121104734.GX22814@thingy.apana.org.au> References: <200501200929.j0K9TXbl022106@mp.cs.niu.edu> <41EF92A2.30506@incubus.de> <237219580.20050120154929@wanadoo.fr> <20050120153926.GO22814@thingy.apana.org.au> <41F09F43.1080300@incubus.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F09F43.1080300@incubus.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: David Gerard Subject: Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:47:37 -0000 Matthias Buelow (mkb@incubus.de) [050121 17:21]: > David Gerard wrote: > >So something around 500MHz will happily run Pango and the other > >cutting-edge internationalisation stuff if you fill it with memory. > My experience is that with a 500Mhz Pentium 3 (512K cache, 512mb RAM, > Matrox G450 AGP graphics), Gnome (2.6 tested) is unbearably slow. A > large factor here is the Xft font rendering (Ok, you could use xterm > instead of gnome-terminal, or switch off antialiasing), which is > unaccelerated (at least was then), and _brutally_ slow. If you run > something with copious output in gnome-terminal, it'll more or less lock > up the entire machine. I don't normally use Gnome, but evaluated it on > that old machine for some reason that is of no interest here. KDE is a > bit faster, don't know why, but seems to use more RAM. IMHO you need at > least a 2.8 or 3GHz P-IV for that kind of desktop to get things to run > well, and, in my experience, raw CPU power here is the dominating > factor. Hrmmm. OK, I was guessing on GNOME. I have read that pango is grossly CPU-hungry, but that the project is keenly aware of the problem. (But refuses to do the easy thing of special optimisation for ISO-8859-1, specifically so that the international stuff will actually get attention.) And that this is the big problem with Gnome terminal. > Of course these machines are still perfectly usable with > windowmaker, or fvwm, or similar. That's why the underpowered Debian laptop uses twm with programs launched from an xterm ;-) - d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 11:21:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3438A16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:21:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B9F43D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050121112124.WKQY7873.out006.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:21:24 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E5E462CE7CA; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:17:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:17:38 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501210317.41259.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:21:24 -0600 Subject: running from PREFIX directory question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:21:26 -0000 Is there a way to get a program located in a PREFIX directory to load shared libraries also in a PREFIX directory when the same libraries exist in /usr/local/lib? -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 11:37:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A2416A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:37:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.messagelabs.com (mail22.messagelabs.com [62.231.131.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA59443D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:37:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rdls@satamatics.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: rdls@satamatics.com X-Msg-Ref: server-17.tower-22.messagelabs.com!1106307398!20229730!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.7; banners=satamatics.com,-,- X-Originating-IP: [212.125.75.75] Received: (qmail 14168 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 11:36:38 -0000 Received: from smtp-6.star.net.uk (212.125.75.75) by server-17.tower-22.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 11:36:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 15494 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 11:36:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hub.bw.satamatics.net) (62.231.144.4) by smtp-6.star.net.uk with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 11:36:38 -0000 Received: from [10.24.5.250] (doctor-evil.satamatics.net [10.24.5.250]) j0LBabmq051899; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:36:37 GMT (envelope-from rdls@satamatics.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: R D L Smith Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:36:32 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: Richard Smith Subject: Spontaneous reboot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:37:25 -0000 I have a teramac R310-1U from DNUK running 5.3-RELEASE-p1. It is the only server I have running 5.x. ISTR that the SiS chip set prevented me loading 4.x. The uptime of this server is good unless its under heavy load. When MySQL (with InnoDB) is being worked hard, the server will reboot after a few hours. However, build world will not crash it. I have added the following to rc.conf: dumpdev="/dev/ad0s1b" and the following to the kernel configuration file: makeoptions DEBUG=-g options KDB options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=-1 I have also connected a serial console to the serial port and logged in as "root". I never get a dump file and I never get a message at the console. I don't know what else I can do other than strike this hardware vendor off my list and dump the server. This machine has already had its motherboard replaced. Any clue would be appreciated. Many thanks, Richard Output from dmesg follows... rdls@anya:~ % dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p1 #1: Wed Dec 8 17:39:58 UTC 2004 rdls@anya.satamatics.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2813.53-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf25 Stepping = 5 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 1006567424 (959 MB) avail memory = 975388672 (930 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0x1400-0x147f,0x1080-0x10ff,0x1000-0x107f,0x480-0x48f,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe8000000-0xebffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xed103000-0xed103fff irq 20 at device 3.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0xed100000-0xed100fff irq 21 at device 3.1 on pci0 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered pci0: at device 3.3 (no driver attached) rl0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xed104000-0xed1040ff irq 16 at device 15.0 on pci0 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:61:36:14:cf fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2813530300 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 117243MB [238209/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA133 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /data was not properly dismounted /data: mount pending error: blocks 150848 files 1 WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted /var: mount pending error: blocks 32 files 1 rdls@anya:~ % Final note: the spontaneous reboots do have a tendency to introduce data errors on the disk - however, it still fails even after the disk has been fully repaired. -- R D L Smith Network Systems Director Satamatics Limited Gloucester Road, Tewkesbury, GL20 5TT, United Kingdom T: +44 1684 278610 F: +44 1684 278611 E: rdls@satamatics.com ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. 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By the way ,i am very surprised to meet you here.^-^ On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:44:35 +0900, Huynh Van Chung wrote: > Hi Nguyen Le Hinh. > > What brower you are using now? > > I use mozilla and i can't hear too. In mplayer_plugin it get no thing, and in plugger it get error message below. > > Plugger: No appropriate application for type text/html found! > > In that page's source code, I see this code. > > > It should have the real wmv file in src tag, just a think. > > PS: I run on FreeBSD5.3-p5(i386) with mozilla 1.7.2 and newest cvsup mplayer, plugins. > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:53:26 +0900 > Nguyen Le Hinh wrote: > > > Hi alls, > > Can anyone hear the online streaming music from this website: > > http://www.nhatrangngaynay.net/music/index.php?act=view&code=song&ssid=12&id=625 > > I installed both mplayer plugin and plugger but still not be able to > > hear it.Any ideas for it? > > Thanks, > > Ps :The above address will be ok with windows... > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 11:54:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FAE16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:54:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C437B43D48 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FEE300070B for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:54:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F0ED52.9030401@uni-mainz.de> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:53:54 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-15?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050102 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: nForce4-SLI, PCIe, ATI X600 supported by FreeBSD 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:54:12 -0000 Hello. I would like to know whether this hardware combination is supported by FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE: Mainboard: ASUS A8N-SLI or GigaByte K8NXP-SLI with ATHLON 64/Winchester (2.0Ghz) SATA harddrive ATI Radeon X600/Pro based PCIe(!) graphics board Especially the GBit NIC should be supported ( # Marvell 8053 Gigabit Ethernet controller # CICADA8201 Gigabit LAN PHY chip) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 11:57:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378E716A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:57:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B777643D48 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:57:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 42DC62841E; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:57:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 8DF0428419; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:57:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552896146; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:56:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0LBusJH022693; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:56:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:56:54 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: R D L Smith In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050121124811.P2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:57:11 -0000 On Jan 21 at 11:36, R D L Smith asked the panel: > I have a teramac R310-1U from DNUK running 5.3-RELEASE-p1. It is the only > server I have running 5.x. ISTR that the SiS chip set prevented me loading > 4.x. > > The uptime of this server is good unless its under heavy load. When MySQL > (with InnoDB) is being worked hard, the server will reboot after a few hours. > However, build world will not crash it. > > I have added the following to rc.conf: > > dumpdev="/dev/ad0s1b" > > and the following to the kernel configuration file: > > makeoptions DEBUG=-g > options KDB > options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=-1 > > I have also connected a serial console to the serial port and logged in as > "root". > > I never get a dump file and I never get a message at the console. I don't > know what else I can do other than strike this hardware vendor off my list > and dump the server. This machine has already had its motherboard replaced. What about the power supply? There has been quite a lot of traffic of late concerning so-called "spontaneous reboots" and so far - *IIRC* - none of the incidents were directly attributed to causes _other than_ balky power spupplies, and in one recent case interestingly, a defective UPS!! I think it's probably worth shoving a new PS in there, these days they are far from expensive, in order to see if that eliminates further instances of the problem. I suppose much depends on whether or not you really want to -as you put it - 'dump the server'. Should you elect to do so, please feel free to ship it across the North Sea to me, I'll be happy to pay for the shipping, deal with its little idiosyncracies and give it a "second life" :-) Regards & HTH, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Fri Jan 21 12:56:00 CET 2005 12:56PM up 1 day, 1:46, 5 users, load averages: 2.08, 1.71, 1.06 http://www.kozy-kabin.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 12:28:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182D416A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C779C43D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:28:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E6893A.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.137.58]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26ED30C7C for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:28:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F0F567.9060607@incubus.de> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:28:23 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501200929.j0K9TXbl022106@mp.cs.niu.edu> <41EF92A2.30506@incubus.de> <237219580.20050120154929@wanadoo.fr> <20050120153926.GO22814@thingy.apana.org.au> <41F09F43.1080300@incubus.de> <20050121104734.GX22814@thingy.apana.org.au> In-Reply-To: <20050121104734.GX22814@thingy.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:28:13 -0000 David Gerard wrote: >>My experience is that with a 500Mhz Pentium 3 (512K cache, 512mb RAM, >>Matrox G450 AGP graphics), Gnome (2.6 tested) is unbearably slow. A > I have read that pango is grossly CPU-hungry, but that the project is > keenly aware of the problem. (But refuses to do the easy thing of special I never understood why they couldn't use pre-rendered glyphs when the background is a uniform white, or sth. like that. Anyways. Compare it with Quake3, which ran very well on the above hardware. Just to see in what ballpark today's "modern" desktops are, when apparently they don't seem to do much, they do in fact burn CPU cycles like hell. Of course Q3 is hardware accelerated, but still. mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 12:28:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC3016A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:28:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D9E43D4C for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:28:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Crxu2-0008nP-1N; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:28:38 +0000 From: Xian To: Matthew Seaman , Anthony Atkielski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:28:34 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200501200929.j0K9TXbl022106@mp.cs.niu.edu> <946782147.20050120155101@wanadoo.fr> <20050120163021.GA393@gravitas.thebunker.net> In-Reply-To: <20050120163021.GA393@gravitas.thebunker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501211228.34451.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:28:40 -0000 > Overite it with randomness so dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/drive would do the trick? -- /Xian "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 12:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E22E16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:29:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from esemetz.metz.supelec.fr (esemetz.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841B643D1F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregorynou@altern.org) Received: from smtp.metz.supelec.fr (smtp.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.205]) by esemetz.metz.supelec.fr (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id j0LCTo506173 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:29:50 +0100 Received: from altern.org (nou.rez-metz.supelec.fr [193.48.225.2]) by smtp.metz.supelec.fr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0LCZ8g24771; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:35:08 +0100 Message-ID: <41F0F5B7.3010104@altern.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:29:43 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory_Nou?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Henson References: <%XxUc.21343$pT5.19608@lakeread05> <41F06178.6060804@rogers.com> <1106282087l.49858l.1l@BARTON> In-Reply-To: <1106282087l.49858l.1l@BARTON> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xmms FreeBSD and buzzing or skipping sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:29:53 -0000 Jason Henson a écrit : > On 01/20/05 20:57:12, Derek wrote: > >> Collin McClendon wrote: >> >>> I've noticed for quite some time (at least on 5.x even before - >>> CURRENT) that if I'm unzipping or tarring a file that it is enough >>> to make xmms play mp3s with intermittent buzzing. I have a fairly >>> fast machine, dual athlon 1.53 Ghz with 1 GB of ram and a fully >>> scsi setup, 4 10K maxtors in a Raid 0 stripe set. >> >> >> Did you ever find a solution to this Collin? >> >> I've got a 5.3-STABLE SMP machine, with a promise RAID controller, >> RAID1, with snd_emu10k1.ko, and I get the same results... Re-nicing >> xmms doesn't help either... >> >> Cheers, >> Derek >> > > Could this be a problem of resource hoging on the pci bus? Are the > devices on different irqs? > > I just tried it without problem, but it was a small file. I have a > single 2ghz athlon with builtin audio and a single ide drive. I have this problem too. It happens with any mp3 player or listening to an icecast stream, but not with mplayer when looking at a divx. I looked at the irqs, and have uhci2 and my pcm0 on the same irq. However, this problems occurs only after 3 or 4 hours of uptime, generally. Should I try to change my irqs ? and if positive, how do I do this ? in the bios ? (note : I have also uhci1 on the same irq than vr0, and it makes my computer crash at the end of the shutdown, when using the GDM to shutdown) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 12:32:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782A316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:32:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.UU.SE [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CAF43D54 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:32:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 5C75E4A31; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:32:06 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s2302; Fri, 21 Jan 05 13:32:02 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2084A26 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:32:02 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 505CB38012; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:32:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F45F5C002 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:32:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:32:02 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Ethernet bridge/tunneling with tap/tun X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:32:09 -0000 I've been reading the handbook, the man pages and been trying to do some inventive maneuvers. I don't work. So, I have the bridge module loaded, I have the if_tap module loaded. I have "activated" the tap/tun device with 'cat /dev/tap0 |tun0'. How do I set up the bridge? I've read the manpage for ifconfig and tried a few times to bridge from my rl0 interface to some of the tap/tun devices. I get some different error messages, but mostly it complains that I use the wrong arguments. I think I have misunderstood how these ethernet bridges work. Are there anyone out there that have a webpage, or some other documentation of a working example of ethernet tunneling? Google finds me some linux stuff I don't find applicable. The big idea with all this is to get my simulated VAX to bridge its interface to my physical rl0 via tap0. But how? If nobody have any documentation to suggest, then I guess I'll have to do a step by step example of what goes wrong and hope someone can debug that. Thankful for any pointers in the correct direction. /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 12:55:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D0516A545 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:55:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78C443D60 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460E331399B for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:57:08 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <20050121090216.GC31548@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <41ED86F4.1080301@mykitchentable.net> <16879.45212.984246.42585@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> <20050121090216.GC31548@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:55:48 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: Hardware RAID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:55:46 -0000 On Jan 21, 2005, at 4:02 AM, Stijn Hoop wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 05:22:36AM -0800, Sandy Rutherford wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:57:21 -0800, >>>>>>> "Ted Mittelstaedt" said: >> >>> This did teach me a lesson that I kind of knew already but >>> didn't think too much about. That is, a software array is no >>> substitute >>> for a hardware array. ... > > I respectfully disagree here; it is a substitute in some respects, > especially if you factor in cost. > > My vinum volumes allowed me to survive for a long time without backups > (bad idea, don't do that), and for the past years have allowed me to > survive without having to restore my backups. This through about 5 > failing ATA disks and multiple upgrades of the storage space. > > I'd say it was worth it for me, including reliability. > > If you need speed, or have the cash, etc, you can go for hardware > RAID. But even there I've seen and heard horror stories of > incompatible disks, spontaneously lost configurations or even worse, > silent data corruption due to a bad disk. Just to interject such a tale, since we just had to put up with it... This was with a Windows 2000 server on a Dell with a Perc 3/di RAID controller, using four drives in a RAID 5 array. We came in to find that one of the disks had "gone bad" and the server was blinking red. Disk 2 was dead. Not a problem, with the Dells with a Perc card you just call it in, they send a new drive, you remove the bad and insert the new and it should start rebuilding! The wonder of hardware RAID...hot swap rebuilding to minimize downtime. Well...it wouldn't rebuild. Go around with the tech a couple times, and then ran the onboard diagnostics on the RAID controller...disk 2 was brand new, of course, so it was blank. Disk 3 kept showing about five bad blocks on it. Turns out that sometimes disks will have bad blocks that the array controller can't repair (even though in the utilities it would run the repair and not give any indication that the repair didn't work), and it didn't warn about the bad blocks either; those bad blocks will prevent the controller from rebuilding the array. The only solution? Make a full backup, replace the other drive as well, then rebuild the volume from scratch and restore your data. But hey, who needs a weekend anyway? :-) Hardware RAID should keep you running for awhile, but in this case, it was only a stopgap to buy some time. Like I said, this just happened to us, so thought I'd share. -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:01:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A83A16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:01:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.messagelabs.com (mail22.messagelabs.com [62.231.131.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 490C443D49 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:01:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rdls@satamatics.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: rdls@satamatics.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-22.messagelabs.com!1106312468!20317175!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.7; banners=satamatics.com,-,- X-Originating-IP: [212.125.75.81] Received: (qmail 1526 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 13:01:08 -0000 Received: from smtp-12.star.net.uk (212.125.75.81) by server-14.tower-22.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 13:01:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18468 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 13:01:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hub.bw.satamatics.net) (62.231.144.4) by smtp-12.star.net.uk with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 13:01:08 -0000 Received: from [10.24.5.250] (doctor-evil.satamatics.net [10.24.5.250]) j0LD17mq055626; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:01:07 GMT (envelope-from rdls@satamatics.com) In-Reply-To: <20050121124811.P2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050121124811.P2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <80B02674-6BAC-11D9-9F09-000A959AF31E@satamatics.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: R D L Smith Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:01:02 +0000 To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:01:11 -0000 On 21 Jan, 2005, at 11:56, Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 21 at 11:36, R D L Smith asked the panel: > >> I have a teramac R310-1U from DNUK running 5.3-RELEASE-p1. It is the >> only >> server I have running 5.x. ISTR that the SiS chip set prevented me >> loading >> 4.x. >> >> The uptime of this server is good unless its under heavy load. When >> MySQL >> (with InnoDB) is being worked hard, the server will reboot after a >> few hours. >> However, build world will not crash it. >> >> I have added the following to rc.conf: >> >> dumpdev="/dev/ad0s1b" >> >> and the following to the kernel configuration file: >> >> makeoptions DEBUG=-g >> options KDB >> options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=-1 >> >> I have also connected a serial console to the serial port and logged >> in as >> "root". >> >> I never get a dump file and I never get a message at the console. I >> don't >> know what else I can do other than strike this hardware vendor off my >> list >> and dump the server. This machine has already had its motherboard >> replaced. > > What about the power supply? > > There has been quite a lot of traffic of late concerning so-called > "spontaneous reboots" and so far - *IIRC* - none of the incidents > were directly attributed to causes _other than_ balky power spupplies, > and in one recent case interestingly, a defective UPS!! > > I think it's probably worth shoving a new PS in there, these days they > are far from expensive, in order to see if that eliminates further > instances of the problem. I did consider that the previous time I was trying to get to the bottom of the problem. The problem is easy to reproduce, simply by starting mysqld and getting it to replicate. I do not normally blame FreeBSD. I have been using it very successfully for years in a production environment. This is the first server I have had with this particular chip set, and I have read about problems with the chip set in the past. It seems to be disk related - it could certainly be a hardware fault (cables or disk drive - as I said before, the motherboard has been replaced already) - if anyone out there is successfully using this hardware with FreeBSD, I could at least eliminate a device driver related problem. My other concern is that I do not understand why I do not get any diagnostics. > I suppose much depends on whether or not you really want to -as you put > it - 'dump the server'. Should you elect to do so, please feel free to > ship it across the North Sea to me, I'll be happy to pay for the > shipping, deal with its little idiosyncracies and give it a "second > life" :-) I will keep that in mind ;-) -- R D L Smith Network Systems Director Satamatics Limited Gloucester Road, Tewkesbury, GL20 5TT, United Kingdom T: +44 1684 278610 F: +44 1684 278611 E: rdls@satamatics.com ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. 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For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:14:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A5916A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:14:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B842E43D49 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:14:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j0LDEECh007138 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:14:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:22:12 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002801c4ff4d$0ad34880$0501a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> <1106283993l.49858l.4l@BARTON> <004801c4ff9d$6b9dab60$0501a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> In-Reply-To: <004801c4ff9d$6b9dab60$0501a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> (from calculus@softhome.net on Fri Jan 21 04:41:45 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1106313732l.51518l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: My computer keeps crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:14:18 -0000 On 01/21/05 04:41:45, cali wrote: >>> Sometimes when I run CPU intensive applications the system will >>> crash at seemingly unpredictable times, I have to hard reset the =20 >>> machine as it >>> is completely unresponsive, I was running an experiment in console =20 >>> mode and it showed me the kernel panic: >=20 >> With those uptimes I would say your heat sink and fan(hsf) is to =20 >> blame. The old idea about amds running hot is kind of crap, any cpu =20 >> will run hot if not installed correctly or overclocked. You got =20 >> that white stuff between the cpu and hsf? >=20 > I think I recall putting the white stuff in. >=20 >> I checked your hsf on the net and in silent mode it does not support =20 >> your cpu speed, though it does in normal higher speed fan mode. If =20 >> you have the fan make sure to keep it in normal mode or it may bake =20 >> your cpu! =20 >> http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=3D33&code=3D005009010 >=20 > Damn! I should have researched this properly when I bought the =20 > heatsink. Thanks for that information, I'm lucky that you noticed =20 > this. >=20 >> Try this command several times after you boot. Then after you boot =20 >> your box do it while under load. >=20 >> sysctl -a|grep thermal >=20 >> That will tell you your cpu temp, you'll need acpi on. If you did =20 >> not put the hsf on right it will go up and you get problems like =20 >> after 5 minutes or less. I set my bios heat alarm to go off and =20 >> set a shutdown temp too. You might want to check that stuff out in =20 >> your bios too. Go to amd.com and get that pdf on how to install =20 >> the hsf, I made a mistake a month ago when I was switching out cpus =20 >> and that was my problem. >=20 >> Everything else looks good, but do you have some case fans? >=20 > OK, I think I had better invest in some, or some better cooling. >=20 >> I moved a 120mm fan over near my cpu and my 100% load temp while =20 >> folding droped about 10C. I am overclocked and it was maxing out =20 >> at about 58C or less. Now it hardly hits 50C, usaully 48C but it =20 >> might go down to 45C if it is cool in my room. I wonder how it =20 >> will do in the summer? :) >=20 > I used that sysctl command you suggested above and it says 55C-55.5C =20 > -- this is for when running underclocked. >=20 > I rebooted, put the CPU speed back to normal, left the fan on its =20 > dangerously low setting and then ran the program again, whilst =20 > checking the cpu temperature every second with: >=20 > while [ 1 ]; do sysctl -a | grep thermal; sleep 1; done >=20 > I observed the CPU temperature rise from a base of 50C at an =20 > approximately steady rate (I should have taken periodic readings too =20 > then I could have made a graph or something). It slowed down at about =20 > 57C (having took about 3-4 minutes to get there) or so but carried on =20 > rising, 58C...58.5C...59C...59.5C... kernel trap 11m33s =20 > (unfortunately I was setting up another process to run on another =20 > console so I never saw the final temperature). >=20 > This was with CPU thermal throttling enabled and set to 50% in my =20 > bios (although I'm not sure at which temperature it enables as it =20 > doesn't seem to say) >=20 > I turned the fan up to max, rebooted and ran the program again. The =20 > temperature seemed to stabilise around 52C. >=20 > Given this information I think it is highly likely that the =20 > temperature hypothesis is correct, and the reason for the crashing. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > cali >=20 >=20 > At 60C it is supposed to throttle, but I think it just crashes. I =20 think if you put an air duct next to your cpu that runs to a blow hole =20 with a big fan you will get real low temps. The big fan should be =20 sucking air out of the case if you do this. Make sure the hsf is mounted in the proper direction too, or it won't =20 work. If the air leaving your psu is hot you know you need better case =20 cooling. It should be warm, not hot. Glad I could help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:21:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A690916A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51704.mail.yahoo.com (web51704.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3077543D49 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sarav_gsa@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 90699 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2005 13:21:13 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=CnT0oeSJ/h5cKBjtnYZCGDYfiz4XBXwzNyvLCBwvzpN3wJsN3NQBz0x0wYSc9LY2Mc5uWgM1dcUgQyj5dW0rpg1YrKIrBrqbqMae8q827jECel9IDGOKXDnLPY/RKV/kDK7Uk8UK/hYdVa6qzVcW+QO3jYuCfc7pd058U4S+bh8= ; Message-ID: <20050121132113.90697.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.193.155.110] by web51704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:21:13 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:21:13 -0800 (PST) From: saravanan ganapathy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: port update problem - newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:14 -0000 Hai I am using 5.3release and when I try to update ports collections, I am getting the following error Release not specified for collection "host=cvsup1.freebsd.org" How to solve this? 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The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:22:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA1616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:22:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D6043D49 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j0LDMEKj016249 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:22:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:30:12 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <%XxUc.21343$pT5.19608@lakeread05> <41F06178.6060804@rogers.com> <1106282087l.49858l.1l@BARTON> <41F0F5B7.3010104@altern.org> In-Reply-To: <41F0F5B7.3010104@altern.org> (from gregorynou@altern.org on Fri Jan 21 07:29:43 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1106314212l.51518l.1l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Xmms FreeBSD and buzzing or skipping sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:22:18 -0000 On 01/21/05 07:29:43, Gr=E9gory Nou wrote: > Jason Henson a =E9crit : >=20 >> On 01/20/05 20:57:12, Derek wrote: >>=20 >>> Collin McClendon wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I've noticed for quite some time (at least on 5.x even before - =20 >>>> CURRENT) that if I'm unzipping or tarring a file that it is enough =20 >>>> to make xmms play mp3s with intermittent buzzing. I have a fairly =20 >>>> fast machine, dual athlon 1.53 Ghz with 1 GB of ram and a fully =20 >>>> scsi setup, 4 10K maxtors in a Raid 0 stripe set. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Did you ever find a solution to this Collin? >>>=20 >>> I've got a 5.3-STABLE SMP machine, with a promise RAID controller, >>> RAID1, with snd_emu10k1.ko, and I get the same results... Re-=20 >>> nicing >>> xmms doesn't help either... >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>> Derek >>> >>=20 >> Could this be a problem of resource hoging on the pci bus? Are the =20 >> devices on different irqs? >>=20 >> I just tried it without problem, but it was a small file. I have a =20 >> single 2ghz athlon with builtin audio and a single ide drive. >=20 > I have this problem too. > It happens with any mp3 player or listening to an icecast stream, but =20 > not with mplayer when looking at a divx. I looked at the irqs, and =20 > have uhci2 and my pcm0 on the same irq. However, this problems occurs =20 > only after 3 or 4 hours of uptime, generally. > Should I try to change my irqs ? and if positive, how do I do this ? =20 > in the bios ? (note : I have also uhci1 on the same irq than vr0, and =20 > it makes my computer crash at the end of the shutdown, when using the =20 > GDM to shutdown) > Something like hw.acpi.pci.link.0.6.0.irq=3D16 #irq pcm in /=20 boot/loader.conf. Maybe you could also try changing the pci clock, by =20 this I mean the number of tics or cycles a device can control the bus. =20 I have mine set to 96. A number between 96-128 usaully increases =20 performance of some pci devices on bench marks I have. You should =20 search for some of them to see if there is a good setting for your pc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF44C16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E0B43D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost.daemonsecurity.com [127.0.0.1]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C61FD020; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:36:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F1054F.7050903@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:36:15 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: saravanan ganapathy References: <20050121132113.90697.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050121132113.90697.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port update problem - newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:36:25 -0000 saravanan ganapathy wrote: > Hai > > I am using 5.3release and when I try to update ports > collections, I am getting the following error > > Release not specified for collection > "host=cvsup1.freebsd.org" > > How to solve this? This could be an invalid tag, but please submit your supfile. Normally you can take the sample supfile and only change the host - is this what you've done? Cheers Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:44:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5883F16A4D6 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:44:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE5243D41 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:44:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LDgNog077684; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:42:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0LDgHRN077683; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:42:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:42:17 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: Ramiro Aceves Message-ID: <20050121134217.GA77496@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Ramiro Aceves , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41EFA65E.80307@wanadoo.es> <20050120125840.M1382@wcborstel.nl> <41F044F4.9070706@wanadoo.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F044F4.9070706@wanadoo.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I do not understand kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:44:50 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 12:55:32AM +0100 Ramiro Aceves wrote: > Jorn Argelo wrote: > >On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:38:54 +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote > > > >>Hello friends. > >> > >>I am a FreeBSD newbie, I am going to ask you a question that I have not > >>been able to solve reading the manual. I am using 5.3 release. I have > >>compiled a custom kernel in my old pentium 75 MHz machine to include > >>the driver for my sound card. I added the following lines to the kernel > >>config file > >> > >>device sound > >>device "snd_es137x" > >> > >>and compiled the kernel perfectly. (long time.... ;-) ) > >> > >>But there is something that I do not understand well. When I look at > >>the contents of /boot/kernel/ directory, I found that there are > >>kernel sound modules *.ko for every sound card the kernel supports. > >>Should not there be my sound card module alone? Does It mean that > >>you have to compile all the stuff, even if you are going to use only > >>one kind of sound card? Am I missing something? > > > > > >Your sound card has been build into the kernel itself (which is > >/boot/kernel/ > >kernel AFAIK). The *.ko are kernel modules, which you can load using the > >kldload command. So in case you get a new sound card, find out what driver > >it supports and you can use kldload .ko to get support for > >your sound card without recompiling your kernel. > > > > Yes, I understand now. The problem is that my old pentium machine takes > very long time to compile all the modules even if I am not going to use > them. I would like to compile only the modules I use, to reduce > compiling time. Is that possible? > Refer to the option MODULES_OVERRIDE in man make.conf(5) if you wish to only compile certain modules. Gardner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:46:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8FD16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:46:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6255743D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:46:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from daemon.foo.lan (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFE3973E9; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:15:58 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:15:41 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501112100.10680.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <200501181740.33206.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <44acr6n7by.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44acr6n7by.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart12431360.3VMohZYnOa"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501220015.57752.imoore@picknowl.com.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3 - found the problem! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:46:37 -0000 --nextPart12431360.3VMohZYnOa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:54, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Ian Moore writes: > > I've just realised I'm not running a name server at all on my 5.3 syste= m. > > I have 4.9 installed on this computer too & I'd set up the caching serv= er > > on it, I guess I forgot that step when I installed 5.3. > > I'll set it up & see that makes any difference. > > Make sure to switch to using domain names that aren't in use by other > people... > > [A common convention is to use ".lan" or ".local" as the top-level > domain if you are using non-public domain names.] Thanks, I hadn't thought of using a non-existant top level domain. I've=20 changed the hostname to daemon.foo.lan and now localhost.foo.lan resolves t= o=20 127.0.0.1 as it should. Unfortunately, I still get the same response form ntpq: daemon:~ % sudo ntpq -p ntpq: write to localhost.foo.lan failed: Permission denied Even with my firewall disabled I get this response. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian Moore GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart12431360.3VMohZYnOa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB8QeVfITqkXhImmIRAvnJAJwIL3tkeMltqpdVGqnHbPEuYKJ5QgCdFmu8 44vyX0Tw9PSgn3UgiZMi7xs= =n+xg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart12431360.3VMohZYnOa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:47:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD6116A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:47:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E33B43D55 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:47:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LDipPH077710; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:44:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0LDik4h077709; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:44:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:44:46 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: stheg olloydson Message-ID: <20050121134446.GB77496@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: stheg olloydson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050121054859.40902.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050121054859.40902.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thread Scheduling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:47:16 -0000 On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 09:48:59PM -0800 stheg olloydson wrote: > it was said: > > > > >My question is, will I notice any performance improvement by using the > >new scheduler opposed to the 4.4BSD scheduler on an SMP system and can > >the new scheduler be utilized on a single processor system? The > >intended use of the SMP system is for MySQL databases only. > > > > Hello, > > I asked about the new scheduler on the performance list. Below is > (posted on list) reply: > > >FWIW, one of the reasons that there hasn't been as much > >interest in SCHED_ULE lately is likely that several of the > >features previously only present in SCHED_ULE are now also > >present in SCHED_4BSD -- for example, making more effective > >uses of IPIs in reducing latency during inter-process > >communication across processors. While SCHED_ULE does contain > >a number of interesting things not present in SCHED_4BSD, the > >4BSD scheduler has hardly gone un-improved in that time. > >However, Jeff Robserson does seem to have picked up recently > >on both VFS SMP locking and ULE. The scheduler tracing and > >visualization tools he committed a couple of weeks ago are > >really quite neat tools. > > > >Robert N M Watson > > So we'll just have to wait until ULE is fully baked to see which > scheduler is best for a given application. For a more definitive > answer, you may want to ask directly on the performance list. > Thanks for your reply, I do have more questions regarding this so I'll ask away on the performance list. Gardner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 13:57:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA8916A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:57:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D841743D46 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:57:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from daemon.foo.lan (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839449777D; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:27:12 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:27:04 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501200929.j0K9TXbl022106@mp.cs.niu.edu> <20050120151005.GA99300@gravitas.thebunker.net> <1792034180.20050120161719@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1792034180.20050120161719@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1419206.YUDU7ZaCXd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501220027.11740.imoore@picknowl.com.au> cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:57:14 -0000 --nextPart1419206.YUDU7ZaCXd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:47, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Matthew Seaman writes: > > MS> If your drive contains or once contained military secrets, then in the > MS> USA and probably anywhere in the West, standard disposal procedure is > MS> that the drive be completely overwritten with specific patterns of > MS> random data several times, and then taken to a secure facility where > MS> the whole thing is literally stamped flat and chewed into small lumps > MS> of scrap. > > Assuming one doesn't have the resources to do this, what might one do to > secure disk drives before disposal. I've thought of opening them up and > scratching the platters or chopping them into pieces (not sure how hard > this might be to do), or something. Home incineration isn't very > practical, nor are machines that can chop metallic platters into > confetti. > > Also, is there anything like a bulk degausser for disk platters (after > removal from the drives)? Come to think of it, I can't remember the > last time I saw a tape degausser, and I still am not quite sure what to > do with old backup tapes that are unreadable but still filled with > backup data. I open up my old backup tapes & use a cutting blade to cut through the tape= =20 spool in a couple of places, to you end up with hundreds of pieces of tape,= =20 no more than a couple of centimetres long. Then I generally throw them in a= =20 couple of different bins. Tape de-gaussers usually aren't much good - they were mostly made for erasi= ng=20 open reel tape that used ferric oxide particles. Backup tapes normally use metal particle tapes that need a much stronger=20 magnetic field to effectively erase them. Cheers,=20 =2D-=20 Ian GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart1419206.YUDU7ZaCXd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB8Qo3fITqkXhImmIRAnsNAJ47Y5UnVPYGm4s0kYB4fxvBdhoiJQCgzEQD J3y/ZpvB6OmFJ17b6GfGOxM= =n04J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1419206.YUDU7ZaCXd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 14:20:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DE116A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:20:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ironport.atl.sa.earthlink.net (ironport.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.200.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DF543D3F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (209.86.89.61) by ironport.atl.sa.earthlink.net with ESMTP; 21 Jan 2005 09:20:43 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CrzeV-0000RZ-9X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:20:43 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:20:45 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501210820.45744.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcd932be9a2a93966d39ec5dd9f6f6a343350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: 'nat pass' not working in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:20:44 -0000 I'm running pf in FreeBSD 5.3 on my laptop. The filters for the local box work fine. I'm also working on a pc for a friend; but ran out of ethernet ports in my router. This pc doesn't have a wireless adapter; so I adjusted my pf rules to use my laptop as a gateway for the pc. I want my filters to remain intact for the laptop; but I want nat to let all the pc's traffic through. (It has it's own firewall.) According the OpenBSD pf tutorial, adding the word 'pass' after 'nat' in the nat command will allow nat traffic to bypass the filter rules. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to work. If my default 'block log all' rule is left uncommented, I can only ping ip addresses (not host names that require nameservers). No other activity passes through. If I comment it out, all traffic passes; but my laptop is left unprotected. Any advice? The relevant lines from my pf rules follow: ifdev = "ath0" natdev = "fxp0" scrub in all no-df nat pass on $ifdev from $natdev:network to any -> $ifdev icmp_types = "echoreq" block log all #other filtering rules follow Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 14:31:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487D116A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:31:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51710.mail.yahoo.com (web51710.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C408C43D49 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:31:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sarav_gsa@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 42254 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2005 14:31:16 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=rCHSEvucxnJ/Cnk8fhxwm+O5B0ZbsxVU7AfBteQ49eOjLoJc35iYHJJuUqec20NXalJMfgfazoCJ7YGRjTkldjnQTe/GgZsZadZtnOb88LTonwmyYihZoqffgdpIob+mOIuuQJ1Dax9m94O8VfCTgDK8MVTUJCi864RG8kt9ZCU= ; Message-ID: <20050121143116.42252.qmail@web51710.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.193.155.110] by web51710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 06:31:15 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 06:31:15 -0800 (PST) From: saravanan ganapathy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41F1054F.7050903@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: port update problem - newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:31:17 -0000 --- Erik Norgaard wrote: > saravanan ganapathy wrote: > > Hai > > > > I am using 5.3release and when I try to update > ports > > collections, I am getting the following error > > > > Release not specified for collection > > "host=cvsup1.freebsd.org" > > > > How to solve this? > > This could be an invalid tag, but please submit your > supfile. Normally > you can take the sample supfile and only change the > host - is this what > you've done? Yah. I had a mistake and corrected. My file looks as *default host=cvsup10.us.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix ports-all #ports-base #ports-accessibility #ports-arabic #ports-archivers #ports-astro #ports-audio #ports-benchmarks #ports-biology #ports-cad # .. .. .. #ports-x11-wm It takes longtime to update the ports. I am not sure abt my config. Should I change anything else? Sarav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 14:37:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EA216A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:37:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FA943D4C for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:37:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LEe82F077747; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:40:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0LEe6Fg077746; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:40:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:40:06 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Comox_Support Message-ID: <20050121144006.GA77707@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Comox_Support , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050117105039.024698b8@pop.comox.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050117105039.024698b8@pop.comox.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on ei.bzerk.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:37:21 -0000 On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:52:46AM +0100, Comox_Support typed: > Hi, > > I'm login as root and trying to start Xserver and Xwindows, how can I go > about this ? > Do I need to install something first ? > How can I test if all files needed to installed are on my system. Are you running at an elevated securelevel? (Check with command: # sysctl kern.securelevel ) Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 14:48:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B6B16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:48:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321CC43D4C for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:48:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LEorZ1077884; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:50:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0LEoq1k077883; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:50:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:50:52 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" Message-ID: <20050121145052.GB77707@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg , FreeBSD Questions References: <41EBB986.7080402@401.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EBB986.7080402@401.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on ei.bzerk.org cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: running restore non-interactive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:48:04 -0000 On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 02:11:34PM +0100, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg typed: > Hi list. > > Im trying to setup a machine to mirror its entire drive using > dump/restore to a secondary drive. > The dump works fine, but at the end of each session, restore always > asks "set owner/mode for '.'"?. This makes it impossible to automate > the task, which is what I would to accomplish. What exact commands are you using? I have scripts doing cd /mnt/drive2/partitionX dump 0aLf - /partitionX | restore rf - without being asked anything. > I have read the man-page, browsed the internet and searched trough > mailinglist archives, but nowhere have I found a way to make restore > assume that the answer to the question should be 'yes'. I have come > across a few patches floating around that is supposed to fix this, > but I would prefer not to use patches against the base system. > > I know that there are other utilities available that could > probably do this, but Ive been teached that you should always use > dump when doing full backups of the root filesystem, and Im also > comfortable using dump and restore so I would like to continue to do > so if possible. > > Any ideas or suggestions? > > -- > R > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 14:51:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739F316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:51:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1494543D41 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:51:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0LEoutB058059; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:51:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <41F116C2.40008@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:50:42 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Moore References: <200501200929.j0K9TXbl022106@mp.cs.niu.edu> <20050120151005.GA99300@gravitas.thebunker.net> <1792034180.20050120161719@wanadoo.fr> <200501220027.11740.imoore@picknowl.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200501220027.11740.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:51:07 -0000 Ian Moore wrote: > Tape de-gaussers usually aren't much good - they were mostly made for erasing > open reel tape that used ferric oxide particles. > Backup tapes normally use metal particle tapes that need a much stronger > magnetic field to effectively erase them. More powerful degaussers are available, like the one found at http://www.datalinksales.com/degaussers/hd1.htm Not cheap (about $5k if memory serves), but seems to do the job on both HDs and modern tapes (what the company calls "coercive media"). We have not found it necessary to remove the HD platters from their enclosures, although I imagine that might yield more thorough results. We just make two passes for better peace of mind. I also imagine that data on degaussed platters might still be available to the kinds of inspection techniques used on platters overwritten with random data, but our acceptable cost/reward balance tops off somewhere above preventing casual inspection and below stopping the NSA. One way that degaussing is more effective than random data writing is that the disk's servo tracks are also destroyed, meaning you'd probably need to return the device to the OEM for factory reconditioning before anyone could usefully attach it to another computer. I hope it's true, as that was our primary justification for the cost of the degausser. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 15:01:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937EC16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:01:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B5F43D4C for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LF4aSF078033; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:04:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0LF4aXl078032; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:04:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:04:36 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: surapong singshinsuk Message-ID: <20050121150436.GC77707@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , surapong singshinsuk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050118090936.39474.qmail@web54002.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050118090936.39474.qmail@web54002.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,J_CHICKENPOX_43 autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on ei.bzerk.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bootstrap question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:01:48 -0000 On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 01:09:36AM -0800, surapong singshinsuk typed: > Hi, > > During the installation process, there are 3 choices to choose what to install on MBR > > 1. install boot0 as a bootmanager on MBR > 2. install mbr as a standard mbr on MBR > 3. install nothing on MBR [SNIP] > 2. During the installation process, I choose "install standard MBR (no boot manager)" > and I later use boot0cfg -B da0 to install boot0 on MBR. Now I want to get rid of bootmanager. > > How can I re-install mbr on MBR ? "fdisk -B da0" should work. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 15:14:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A455516A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:14:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D49F43D1F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:14:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j0LFEUqG062174; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:14:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:14:30 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Krok Message-ID: <20050121151429.GA33972@dan.emsphone.com> References: <41F0CA80.9050606@void.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F0CA80.9050606@void.ru> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mylex AcceleRAID 352 utilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:14:32 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 21), Krok said: > Hello. > > Does anybody know, how can I administrate Mylex AcceleRAID 352 from > FreeBSD 5.2.1 ? > > I've tried software from lsilogic - linux-gam (sam), but it's fails with > following error : > > # ./gam > sh: wine: command not found > > even with wine installed Chances are "gam" is a shell script that launches wine. Take a look at it and hardcode the path. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 15:18:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C22716A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:18:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D02543D60 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost.daemonsecurity.com [127.0.0.1]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDF2FD020; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:43:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F11523.6040600@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:43:47 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: saravanan ganapathy References: <20050121143116.42252.qmail@web51710.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050121143116.42252.qmail@web51710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port update problem - newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:18:18 -0000 saravanan ganapathy wrote: > > Yah. I had a mistake and corrected. > > It takes longtime to update the ports. I am not sure > abt my config. Should I change anything else? How long it takes depends on the number of changes, first time will probably take a longer. You can speed up in two ways: instead of ports-all specify the parts you want updated. Or, use a refuse file. The two methods work oposite: with the first you actively select the parts you want with refuse file you active select the parts you don't want. I recommend the latter because some times the ports tree is reorganized and you won't get new groups if you use the first method. Whichever you choose, sometimes you get surprised: I found a nice tool for converting chm-files to html in the chinese collection!?? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 15:27:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA4616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:27:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51702.mail.yahoo.com (web51702.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EEA143D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:27:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sarav_gsa@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 3173 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2005 15:27:41 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=DeGKKml2mQhq0c6b+Jqs4ilRrjhvmdso9kaBvWqrA+i35wSYtJuDbsXhzOl8hSD52d2805eXFTrvhHxKw/j7YY5Cu2RmwGtJMdIEKa/bPZoyOyxplZd0eZOLeitzpWFZ3Wf8XefhuXXR/udYoVJXPgTfCKWySGzqVcluTMydaM0= ; Message-ID: <20050121152741.3171.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.199.211.113] by web51702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:27:41 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:27:41 -0800 (PST) From: saravanan ganapathy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41F11523.6040600@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: port update problem - newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:27:42 -0000 --- Erik Norgaard wrote: > saravanan ganapathy wrote: > > > > Yah. I had a mistake and corrected. > > > > It takes longtime to update the ports. I am not > sure > > abt my config. Should I change anything else? > > How long it takes depends on the number of changes, > first time will > probably take a longer. You can speed up in two > ways: instead of > ports-all specify the parts you want updated. Or, > use a refuse file. > > The two methods work oposite: with the first you > actively select the > parts you want with refuse file you active select > the parts you don't want. > > I recommend the latter because some times the ports > tree is reorganized > and you won't get new groups if you use the first > method. > > Whichever you choose, sometimes you get surprised: I > found a nice tool > for converting chm-files to html in the chinese > collection!?? > Since I am very new to freebsd, I am not sure abt the ports collections which I don't want. I am trying to use freebsd for web hosting servers.Can you list the ports which are not useful for servers? How to use refuse file? Sarav __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 15:31:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3202E16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:31:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D50843D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:31:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED8F619C; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:31:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95040-10; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:31:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1111B617A; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:31:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41F12048.2050306@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:31:20 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Henson References: <002801c4ff4d$0ad34880$0501a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> <1106283993l.49858l.4l@BARTON> In-Reply-To: <1106283993l.49858l.4l@BARTON> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My computer keeps crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:31:16 -0000 Jason Henson wrote: > On 01/20/05 19:06:22, cali wrote: > >> If this is the wrong mailing list, I apologise, suggestions to a more >> appropriate mailing list will be appreciated. >> >> Reasonably recently I upgraded my hardware to the following: >> >> Soltek SL-NV400-64 "Purple >> Ray" (Socket A) Motherboard >> >> AMD Athlon "Barton" XP3200+ >> 400FSB (Socket A) CPU - OEM >> >> Asus DRW-0402P DVD-R/RW - >> Retail >> >> Adata 512MB DDR PC3200 CAS 2.5 >> Adata 512MB DDR PC3200 CAS 2.5 >> >> Zalman Flower CNPS6000-Cu >> Silent Socket A CPU Cooler - >> >> Antec Sonata Piano Black >> Quiet Case - 380W TruePower >> Silent PSU >> >> Hyundai ImageQuest Q995 19'' >> Perfectly Flat CRT Monitor - >> Black/Silver >> >> Geforce FX 5200 graphics card >> >> IBM 60GB HD >> >> Western Digital 160GB HD >> >> Sometimes when I run CPU intensive applications the system will >> crash at seemingly unpredictable times, I have to hard reset the >> machine as it >> is completely unresponsive, I was running an experiment in console >> mode and it showed me the kernel panic: >> > > > With those uptimes I would say your heat sink and fan(hsf) is to > blame. The old idea about amds running hot is kind of crap, any cpu > will run hot if not installed correctly or overclocked. You got that > white stuff between the cpu and hsf? I disagree (as an owner of one Athlon) The CPU came with it's own fan etc. Bios settings (voltage etc) where they should be - but still runs hot. In fact so much so that when compiling or make world, freeze happens. It's just a known fact that AMD's runs hot. I don't know if that's by design or not - nonetheless, I love mine (big old box fan and all). -- Best regards, Chris A little ambiguity never hurt anyone. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 15:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969C216A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:41:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6779643D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:41:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Cs0uC-0006dG-R1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:41:00 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:41:03 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200501210820.45744.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200501210820.45744.algould@datawok.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501210941.03944.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc914a60d33d1aef598a30df668ad5e935350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: workaround: Re: 'nat pass' not working in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:41:01 -0000 On Friday 21 January 2005 08:20 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > I'm running pf in FreeBSD 5.3 on my laptop. The filters for the > local box work fine. > > I'm also working on a pc for a friend; but ran out of ethernet ports > in my router. This pc doesn't have a wireless adapter; so I adjusted > my pf rules to use my laptop as a gateway for the pc. > > I want my filters to remain intact for the laptop; but I want nat to > let all the pc's traffic through. (It has it's own firewall.) > According the OpenBSD pf tutorial, adding the word 'pass' after 'nat' > in the nat command will allow nat traffic to bypass the filter rules. > Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to work. > > If my default 'block log all' rule is left uncommented, I can only > ping ip addresses (not host names that require nameservers). No > other activity passes through. If I comment it out, all traffic > passes; but my laptop is left unprotected. > > Any advice? > > The relevant lines from my pf rules follow: > > ifdev = "ath0" > natdev = "fxp0" > scrub in all no-df > nat pass on $ifdev from $natdev:network to any -> $ifdev > icmp_types = "echoreq" > block log all > #other filtering rules follow > > Thanks, > > Andrew Gould I added a 'pass in' rule for $natdev; and it seems to work. Although, I dislike it because it's one more line to remember to comment-out when I'm not nat-ing. Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 15:51:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106E016A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:51:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omega.lacnic.net.uy (lacnic.net.uy [200.40.228.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B63C43D46 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:51:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pablo@omega.lacnic.net.uy) Received: from omega.lacnic.net.uy (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by omega.lacnic.net.uy (8.12.11/8.12.5) with ESMTP id j0LGxIkZ014011 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:59:18 -0300 Received: (from pablo@localhost) by omega.lacnic.net.uy (8.12.11/8.12.5/Submit) id j0LGxIOQ014010 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:59:18 -0300 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:59:17 -0300 From: Pablo Allietti To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050121165917.GH9329@omega.lacnic.net.uy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: Freebsd 5.3 X-Organization: LACNIC X-URL: http://lacnic.net/ X-Lacnic-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Lacnic for more information (lacnic at lacnic.net) X-Lacnic-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: pablo@omega.lacnic.net.uy Subject: sendmail problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:51:25 -0000 hi all, i have a problem with sendmail. smtp when i start sendmail smtp only accept local connections. netsat -a tcp4 0 0 localhost.smtp *.* LISTEN i check the mc file and remove from DaemonOption the 127.0.0.1 and have this line now dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp, Name=MTA')dnl but nothing sendmail continue accpeting traffic only bu localhost. any solution? thanks Os: freebsd 5.3 Sendmail: 8.13.1 with tls -- Pablo Allietti LACNIC -------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:02:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E73616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:02:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail16.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281A843D45 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:02:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 16132 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 16:02:33 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2005 16:02:33 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E75237E; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:02:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Ian Moore References: <200501112100.10680.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <200501181740.33206.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <44acr6n7by.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200501220015.57752.imoore@picknowl.com.au> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Jan 2005 11:02:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200501220015.57752.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Message-ID: <44651qsrc8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3 - found the problem! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:02:34 -0000 Ian Moore writes: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:54, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > Ian Moore writes: > > > I've just realised I'm not running a name server at all on my 5.3 system. > > > I have 4.9 installed on this computer too & I'd set up the caching server > > > on it, I guess I forgot that step when I installed 5.3. > > > I'll set it up & see that makes any difference. > > > > Make sure to switch to using domain names that aren't in use by other > > people... > > > > [A common convention is to use ".lan" or ".local" as the top-level > > domain if you are using non-public domain names.] > > Thanks, I hadn't thought of using a non-existant top level domain. I've > changed the hostname to daemon.foo.lan and now localhost.foo.lan resolves to > 127.0.0.1 as it should. > Unfortunately, I still get the same response form ntpq: > daemon:~ % sudo ntpq -p > ntpq: write to localhost.foo.lan failed: Permission denied > Even with my firewall disabled I get this response. What about "ntpq -pn"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:05:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8309916A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:05:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9346943D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:05:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j0LG5PFU027989; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:05:25 +0200 Received: by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 510232A42F; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:05:25 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:05:25 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Pablo Allietti Message-ID: <20050121160525.GA40390@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050121165917.GH9329@omega.lacnic.net.uy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050121165917.GH9329@omega.lacnic.net.uy> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:05:29 -0000 On 2005-01-21 13:59, Pablo Allietti wrote: > hi all, i have a problem with sendmail. smtp > > when i start sendmail smtp only accept local connections. > > netsat -a > tcp4 0 0 localhost.smtp *.* LISTEN This is 'netstat', I suppose. Please copy/paste the output as you see it on your screen. Do *not* copy it manually, as typos and omissions may make it difficult to see what's going on. > i check the mc file and remove from DaemonOption the 127.0.0.1 and > have this line now What does your `/etc/rc.conf' file start? Show us the output of: % grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:09:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686B016A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:09:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail16.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1D143D2D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:09:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 26062 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 16:09:23 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2005 16:09:22 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6BB647E; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:09:22 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Lucas Holt References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Jan 2005 11:09:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <441xcesr0t.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ftp/fetch can not connect to ftp sites. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:09:23 -0000 Lucas Holt writes: > I am running FreeBSD 5.3 Release p4, upgraded from 5.2.1. Prior to > 5.3 p4, I was able to use command line ftp and fetch to access ftp > sites. Since the upgrade I have not been able to. I can not connect > to ftp.freebsd.org (or mirrors), ftp.x.org, etc. Any port using an > http server works fine using portupgrade, but with about 30 ports to > upgrade its kind of annoying to manually fetch files :) > > I do have ipfw setup and running. It is possible that it is a config > issue with ipfw, but I am doubtful. The kernel does not have inet6 > (ip6) compiled in and occasionally I see the ftp client resolving ip6 > addresses which I find odd. It often does this resolving > ftp.freebsd.org which I think is hosted at ISC. I've tried ipfw > disable firewall and kldunload'ing the ipfw extension in the kernel. > I can connect to ftp sites using firefox in x11 and from Linux & > windows on the same box with the same ip defined. My cable modem > router has this system setup as the dmz. I looked at the fetch man > page and it has an environment variable (man 3 fetch) > FTP_PASSIVE_MODE. I've toggled this to yes and no in the environment > with no effect. > > Also, I happen to have ip_portrange_first and ip_portrange_last set in > /etc/rc.conf to 4000 and 8000 respectively. The system has a custom > built kernel with SMP enabled as I have a dual xeon w/ htt disabled. > > I am at a loss why this is not working. Since I got the cable modem, > I've noticed that pasv mode connections are flaky and i usually have > to switch to port in windows ftp apps especially if the server on the > other end is behind a firewall. I've tried toying with command line > flags to ftp also. Sometimes -4 -A -a will get me into some ftp > servers command line. It sounds like you have a new firewall (intentionally or not) in the form of your cable "modem." Why do you have the portrange set low? The fact that you apparently have similar problems under other operating systems may indicate that FreeBSD can't actually solve this for you. If your cable modem is doing firewalling (or, even more insidious, NAT) without your knowledge, then you will need to understand just how it is configured before you can make any progress at all. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:11:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295E016A51F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:11:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF4F43D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:11:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 17198 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 16:11:18 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2005 16:11:18 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6763F7E; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:11:17 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Marty Landman References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050120093504.01ee0448@mail.face2interface.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Jan 2005 11:11:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050120093504.01ee0448@mail.face2interface.com> Message-ID: <44wtu6rcd6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what release to install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:11:19 -0000 Marty Landman writes: > I'm used to running fbsd 4.8 release on a sandbox server on my lan, > from the mini-iso only. But now am looking at installing the full os > from the two cd set. Is 5.3 release the recommended one to use at this > time? That's why it's called the "Production Release." > My plan is to first install this on my xp box which is a year old and > has dozens of free GB's on 4 windows partitions (one hd) and make it a > dual bootable machine. > > Then I'd like to put it on another box with a p2-233 and about 8 free > GB's on its three windows partitions. > > Is this all reasonable sounding? Sure, as long as you understand that you can't install FreeBSD on a Windows partition. [Not without first making it Not A Windows Partition, that is.] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:14:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25C016A4CF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:14:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net (outbound05.telus.net [199.185.220.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4949643D1F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:14:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from [137.186.198.39] by priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP <20050121161405.IFOV13946.priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net@[137.186.198.39]> for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:14:05 -0700 Message-ID: <41F12A81.4050300@daltons.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:14:57 -0700 From: Aaron Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error installing print/latex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:14:06 -0000 When doing a make on print/latex I get the following error: ===> Compressing manual pages for tex-3.14159_2 ===> Registering installation for tex-3.14159_2 ===> Returning to build of latex2e-2003.12_1 ===> Configuring for latex2e-2003.12_1 ===> Building for latex2e-2003.12_1 ! I can't read tex.pool; bad path? *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/latex. I am sure this is some sort of path thing because tex.pool indeed exists at /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/tex.pool; however, I have been unable to figure out what I need to change where to make it work. I'm running 5.2.1-RELEASE. Any help you could provide would be most appreciated. Thank you for your time! Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:17:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DF316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:17:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail13.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E54C43D49 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:17:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24947 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 16:17:44 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail13.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2005 16:17:44 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3B6F77E; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:17:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Jay References: <20050120200404.GC60107@mail.meangrape.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Jan 2005 11:17:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050120200404.GC60107@mail.meangrape.com> Message-ID: <44sm4urc2g.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: snapshots, soft update inconsistency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:17:44 -0000 Jay writes: > I've got some filesystem problems on my /usr partition. > Cause: power failures caused by TWO exploding transformers > > I restarted in single-user mode and fsck'd all of my partitions. > Everything looked fine. > > I've got a handful of zero-length files that I can't fix. "Bad file > descriptor". I've tried `ls -i` to get the inode number so I can delete > the files via find. ls doesn't work -- it just returns "Bad file > descriptor". > > I then had the bright idea of making a snapshot and running fsck against > it. I got a few hundred lines of "unexpected soft update > inconsistency". I didn't have fsck repair anything against the snapshot; > I just wanted to see what the output was. > > Should I: > a) run fsck against the snapshot and let it fix things > b) go back to single-user mode and run fsck > c) do something else > > I'm sure that booting into single-user mode is the best idea, however, > I'd prefer not to do that if possible -- the machine is up and running > and doing it's thing fairly well at the moment. I thought you said you had already done that, and that it seemed fine. Doing it again will only help if new problems have arisen since then. If the machine is working okay as it is, and the data on its disks is completely expendable, then feel free to leave it alone and wait for problems to get worse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:35:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48C416A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:35:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3487243D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:35:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9E4B52863D; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:35:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id D9A2428944; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:58:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151DA615A; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:57:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0LEvZZU089574; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:57:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:57:35 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Gardner Bell In-Reply-To: <20050121134217.GA77496@gardnerbell.ca> Message-ID: <20050121154625.A2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <41EFA65E.80307@wanadoo.es> <20050120125840.M1382@wcborstel.nl> <41F044F4.9070706@wanadoo.es> <20050121134217.GA77496@gardnerbell.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ramiro Aceves Subject: Re: I do not understand kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:35:25 -0000 On Jan 21 at 08:42, Gardner Bell wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 12:55:32AM +0100 Ramiro Aceves wrote: >> Jorn Argelo wrote: >>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:38:54 +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote >>> >> >> Yes, I understand now. The problem is that my old pentium machine takes >> very long time to compile all the modules even if I am not going to use >> them. I would like to compile only the modules I use, to reduce >> compiling time. Is that possible? >> > Refer to the option MODULES_OVERRIDE in man make.conf(5) if you wish > to only compile certain modules. Thanks for this! I'm approaching a critical "rite of passage" today conincidentally, by recompiling my kernel and getting rid of stuff I don't need. Doing what you suggest sounds eminently sensible, yet I have to ask a followup question... How do you specify a particular make.conf that should *only* be used for recompiling kernels? Regards & TIA, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Fri Jan 21 15:57:00 CET 2005 3:57PM up 1 day, 4:47, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:38:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0452C16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:38:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rambo.401.cx (rambo.401.cx [80.65.205.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A05D43D49 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (rocky [192.168.200.2]) by rambo.401.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LGcHFq022230; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:38:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <41F13011.7070809@401.cx> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:38:41 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruben de Groot References: <41EBB986.7080402@401.cx> <20050121145052.GB77707@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20050121145052.GB77707@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0503-2, 2005-01-21), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: running restore non-interactive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:38:24 -0000 Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 02:11:34PM +0100, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg typed: > >>Hi list. >> >> Im trying to setup a machine to mirror its entire drive using >>dump/restore to a secondary drive. >>The dump works fine, but at the end of each session, restore always >>asks "set owner/mode for '.'"?. This makes it impossible to automate >>the task, which is what I would to accomplish. > > > What exact commands are you using? I have scripts doing > > cd /mnt/drive2/partitionX > dump 0aLf - /partitionX | restore rf - > > without being asked anything. I was using 'restore xf -', but after reading the manpage again I see that using -r like you do is the way to go. Unbelievable that noone else has noticed this, there are hundreds of posts on the internet discussing this very issue. Many thanks, you just saved me a lot of trouble! -- R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:39:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F80316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:39:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E77E43D45 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:39:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@evation.com) Received: (qmail 65862 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 16:39:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ip51cf88d9.direct-adsl.nl) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 16:39:01 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 81.207.136.217 Date: 21 Jan 2005 17:35:00 CET From: Jan Branbergen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/mixed; BOUNDARY="0-1804289383-1106325541=:23614" Message-Id: <20050121163902.7E77E43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Exporting mounted filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:39:03 -0000 --0-1804289383-1106325541=:23614 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Description: body Hi, i am running FBSD 4.10 and i am trying to export mounted filesystems ( usb stick and cdrom ) currently there are 2 subdirs in /mnt: da0 and cdrom. when i mount_nfs this machine's /mnt on another machine, i see the underlying filesystem, not the mounted ones ( ie: da0 is empty, while on the exporting machine, da0 is not empty ) what am i doing wrong? regards, Jan Branbergen --0-1804289383-1106325541=:23614-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:40:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122E216A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:40:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omega.lacnic.net.uy (lacnic.net.uy [200.40.228.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5197243D3F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pablo@omega.lacnic.net.uy) Received: from omega.lacnic.net.uy (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by omega.lacnic.net.uy (8.12.11/8.12.5) with ESMTP id j0LHlvD0015930; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:47:57 -0300 Received: (from pablo@localhost) by omega.lacnic.net.uy (8.12.11/8.12.5/Submit) id j0LHlvbD015929; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:47:57 -0300 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:47:57 -0300 From: Pablo Allietti To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050121174757.GJ9329@omega.lacnic.net.uy> References: <20050121165917.GH9329@omega.lacnic.net.uy> <20050121160525.GA40390@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050121160525.GA40390@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: Freebsd 5.3 X-Organization: LACNIC X-URL: http://lacnic.net/ X-Lacnic-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Lacnic for more information (lacnic at lacnic.net) X-Lacnic-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: pablo@omega.lacnic.net.uy cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Pablo Allietti Subject: Re: sendmail problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:40:35 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 06:05:25PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-01-21 13:59, Pablo Allietti wrote: > > hi all, i have a problem with sendmail. smtp > > > > when i start sendmail smtp only accept local connections. sorry i deinstall and install again and it working now. thanks a lot. > > > > netsat -a > > tcp4 0 0 localhost.smtp *.* LISTEN > > This is 'netstat', I suppose. Please copy/paste the output as you see > it on your screen. Do *not* copy it manually, as typos and omissions > may make it difficult to see what's going on. > > > i check the mc file and remove from DaemonOption the 127.0.0.1 and > > have this line now > > What does your `/etc/rc.conf' file start? Show us the output of: > > % grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf > > - Giorgos > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ---end quoted text--- -- Pablo Allietti LACNIC -------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:41:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EBE16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:41:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D029443D46 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:41:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 354AE37E83; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:41:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.181]) by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2229637E47 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:41:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E6C4737E47 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:41:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 50170 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Jan 2005 16:41:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:41:28 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Aaron Dalton Message-ID: <20050121164128.GA49680@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Aaron Dalton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41F12A81.4050300@daltons.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F12A81.4050300@daltons.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error installing print/latex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:41:31 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 09:14:57AM -0700, Aaron Dalton wrote: > When doing a make on print/latex I get the following error: > > ===> Compressing manual pages for tex-3.14159_2 > ===> Registering installation for tex-3.14159_2 > ===> Returning to build of latex2e-2003.12_1 > ===> Configuring for latex2e-2003.12_1 > ===> Building for latex2e-2003.12_1 > ! I can't read tex.pool; bad path? > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/ports/print/latex. > > I am sure this is some sort of path thing because tex.pool indeed exists > at /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/tex.pool; however, I have been unable > to figure out what I need to change where to make it work. > > I'm running 5.2.1-RELEASE. Any help you could provide would be most > appreciated. Thank you for your time! Is there some particular reason why you must use print/latex ? If there is not I would suggest that you use print/teTeX instead. It is probably more up to date and is what most people use for TeX-related stuff. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 16:51:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B3C16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:51:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6AC43D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:51:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from [137.186.198.39] by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP <20050121165135.FSNX22950.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@[137.186.198.39]>; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:51:35 -0700 Message-ID: <41F1334B.30800@daltons.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:52:27 -0700 From: Aaron Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Trulsson References: <41F12A81.4050300@daltons.ca> <20050121164128.GA49680@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20050121164128.GA49680@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error installing print/latex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:51:36 -0000 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 09:14:57AM -0700, Aaron Dalton wrote: > >>When doing a make on print/latex I get the following error: >> >>===> Compressing manual pages for tex-3.14159_2 >>===> Registering installation for tex-3.14159_2 >>===> Returning to build of latex2e-2003.12_1 >>===> Configuring for latex2e-2003.12_1 >>===> Building for latex2e-2003.12_1 >>! I can't read tex.pool; bad path? >>*** Error code 1 >>Stop in /usr/ports/print/latex. >> >>I am sure this is some sort of path thing because tex.pool indeed exists >> at /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/tex.pool; however, I have been unable >>to figure out what I need to change where to make it work. >> >>I'm running 5.2.1-RELEASE. Any help you could provide would be most >>appreciated. Thank you for your time! > > > Is there some particular reason why you must use print/latex ? > If there is not I would suggest that you use print/teTeX instead. > It is probably more up to date and is what most people use for > TeX-related stuff. > > > Well I've only ever used LaTeX. Perhaps I don't need it, but I'm not sure. I am unfamiliar with the specific differences between plain TeX and the LaTeX2e macros. I use Miktex on my windows box and have always used LaTeX reference materials for composing my documents. LaTeX used to be installed on this BSD box and I don't recall having any problems back then (it was installed as a part of print/lilypond). Well, now that I look through lilypond's Makefile, it appears that latex is a part of print/teTeX? *is a little confused* I will try installing that instead. What are the differences between print/latex and print/teTeX? Why are there two ports? Thanks for your help! Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id D88C316A4CF; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050121170200.D88C316A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. 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Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:02:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id DF02216A4D0; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050121170200.DF02216A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:06:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057F416A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:06:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail13.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7FA43D41 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:06:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 2830 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 17:06:53 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail13.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2005 17:06:53 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CF25B7E; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:06:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Aaron Dalton References: <41F12A81.4050300@daltons.ca> <20050121164128.GA49680@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <41F1334B.30800@daltons.ca> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Jan 2005 12:06:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <41F1334B.30800@daltons.ca> Message-ID: <44mzv2r9sj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error installing print/latex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:06:54 -0000 Aaron Dalton writes: > What are the differences between print/latex and print/teTeX? Why are > there two ports? Quoting /usr/ports/print/teTeX-base/pkg-descr: teTeX is _the_ TeX distribution for UNIX compatible systems. It contains the latest versions of TeX & friends and nearly everything you need for happy TeX'ing. For more information have a look at the lengthy FEATURES file of the distribution. teTeX-base contains various utilities including TeX and dviware themselves. WWW: http://www.tug.org/tetex/ ================ However, I just built the latex port from scratch on an up-to-date -STABLE system, and it worked fine. Do you have up-to-date ports? Make sure you clean the port directory before trying to build it again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:06:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3915516A4D3 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4C543D48 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:06:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050121170657016006rfrke>; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:06:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.16] (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.16]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44C9611B for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:06:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41F136B9.20604@trini0.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:07:05 -0500 From: Gerard Samuel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Repost] php log to own syslog file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:06:58 -0000 Im trying to figure out how to setup FreeBSD 5.3 to log php events to its own log file via syslog. In /etc/syslog.conf, I added -> # php logs !httpd *.* /var/log/php.log I created a empty file for the log -> gladiator# touch /var/log/php.log gladiator# ls -l /var/log/php* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 20 16:37 /var/log/php.log Then I HUPped syslogd -> gladiator# ps aux | grep syslogd root 277 0.0 0.2 1316 908 ?? Is 4:14PM 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s gladiator# kill -HUP 277 In my php script, Im using -> define_syslog_variables(); openlog('TESTING', LOG_NDELAY, LOG_USER); syslog(LOG_INFO, $message); closelog(); But nothing is being logged to the file. Am I doing something wrong on the FreeBSD side of things?? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:10:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70D416A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:10:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382AB43D46 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:10:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from danielby by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Cs2JD-000NpB-Qo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:10:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:10:55 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050121171055.GA91463@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9420449494.20050119222617@hexren.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ibTvN161/egqYuK8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9420449494.20050119222617@hexren.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: : Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:10:57 -0000 --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 10:26:17PM +0100, Hexren wrote: >=20 > BT> Then don't waste ours, stupid fucktardo spic. >=20 > BT> Bash. >=20 > --------------------------------------------- >=20 > Please refrain from swearing at other list members, it is rude and > beside that it is not helping. :( Added to which, the racist content is certainly not called for - let's just take a minute to think about what's going on here, and realise that calling people names is really rather childish, and beneath us. We are capable of much better. Mr AOL is annoying, but so are all the non-technical outbursts he has elicited from other list members. It's tough, but we should try not to give him the satisfaction of responding. If we ignore him, he might well go away. If not, just dump him. We demean only ourselves by playing along with him. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8TefhvzwOpChvo8RAguVAJ4kqT1TKoRZ5rJKeyD/ncQHoXe90wCeOg9D aC4ge7ZMF9XBl+ibyZHn1vw= =5dW/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ibTvN161/egqYuK8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:13:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F3D16A4CF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:13:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC8643D58 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:13:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so121414wra for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:13:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GdsAPn+kgvFATznncSgUNddiX7ESN+9vsXlIsL2GQw3wYfoVSLAPlc7E2tGvoVVPwtWibwD/N15M33PYnp/bWvZlnbfDryvm7UYXu338J39MUj3Y01akdnlIGVMxhE2Mmd13svMBqeEQ724HV0VnhBrHKgq4RtzHjQw2YOIq9J0= Received: by 10.54.10.45 with SMTP id 45mr32880wrj; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.37.19 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:13:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19861fba050121091360fa18d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:13:10 +0100 From: J65nko BSD To: "Andrew L. Gould" In-Reply-To: <200501210820.45744.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200501210820.45744.algould@datawok.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'nat pass' not working in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: J65nko BSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:13:15 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:20:45 -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > I'm running pf in FreeBSD 5.3 on my laptop. The filters for the local > box work fine. > > I'm also working on a pc for a friend; but ran out of ethernet ports in > my router. This pc doesn't have a wireless adapter; so I adjusted my > pf rules to use my laptop as a gateway for the pc. > > I want my filters to remain intact for the laptop; but I want nat to let > all the pc's traffic through. (It has it's own firewall.) According > the OpenBSD pf tutorial, adding the word 'pass' after 'nat' in the nat > command will allow nat traffic to bypass the filter rules. > Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to work. > > If my default 'block log all' rule is left uncommented, I can only ping > ip addresses (not host names that require nameservers). No other > activity passes through. If I comment it out, all traffic passes; but > my laptop is left unprotected. > > Any advice? > > The relevant lines from my pf rules follow: > > ifdev = "ath0" > natdev = "fxp0" > scrub in all no-df > nat pass on $ifdev from $natdev:network to any -> $ifdev > icmp_types = "echoreq" > block log all > #other filtering rules follow > > Thanks, > > Andrew Gould How about something like this: EXT_IF = "fxp0" INT_IF = "xl0" TCP_OUT = "{ ssh, www, https, smtp, pop3 }" UDP_OUT = "{ domain }" ICMP_OUT = "echoreq" scrub in all no-df nat on $EXT_IF from $INT_IF:network to any -> $EXT_IF # -- default policy block log from any to any # -- LOOPBACK pass quick on lo0 from any to any # -- EXTERNAL # -- tcp pass out quick on $EXT_IF inet proto tcp from any to any port $TCP_OUT flags S/SA keep state # -- udp pass out quick on $EXT_IF inet proto udp from any to any port $UDP_OUT keep state # -- icmp pass out quick on $EXT_IF inet proto icmp from any to any icmp-type $ICMP_OUT keep state # -- INTERNAL pass on $INT_IF from any to any =Adriaan== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:19:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E188716A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:19:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282AE43D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:19:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LHH7Vc038246; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:17:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0LHH108038245; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:17:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:17:01 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-ID: <20050121171701.GA37944@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: "Colin J. Raven" , Ramiro Aceves , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41EFA65E.80307@wanadoo.es> <20050120125840.M1382@wcborstel.nl> <41F044F4.9070706@wanadoo.es> <20050121134217.GA77496@gardnerbell.ca> <20050121154625.A2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050121154625.A2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ramiro Aceves Subject: Re: I do not understand kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:19:37 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:57:35PM +0100 Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 21 at 08:42, Gardner Bell wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 12:55:32AM +0100 Ramiro Aceves wrote: > >> Jorn Argelo wrote: > >>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:38:54 +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote > >>> > >> > >> Yes, I understand now. The problem is that my old pentium machine takes > >> very long time to compile all the modules even if I am not going to use > >> them. I would like to compile only the modules I use, to reduce > >> compiling time. Is that possible? > >> > > Refer to the option MODULES_OVERRIDE in man make.conf(5) if you wish > > to only compile certain modules. > > Thanks for this! I'm approaching a critical "rite of passage" today > conincidentally, by recompiling my kernel and getting rid of stuff I > don't need. > Doing what you suggest sounds eminently sensible, yet I have to ask a > followup question... > > How do you specify a particular make.conf that should *only* be used for > recompiling kernels? > I'm not too sure if one can specify another make.conf file or not. What are your reasons for wanting to do so? Gardner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:24:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72EB16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:24:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF2743D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:24:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2381BFD020; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:24:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F13AB1.6080505@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:24:01 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: saravanan ganapathy References: <20050121152741.3171.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050121152741.3171.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port update problem - newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:24:05 -0000 saravanan ganapathy wrote: > Since I am very new to freebsd, I am not sure abt the > ports collections which I don't want. > > I am trying to use freebsd for web hosting servers.Can > you list the ports which are not useful for servers? This is a tough question, if you now have a fully updated ports tree and you have sufficient diskspace then let it be that way. As you get things up running you'll get a feel of what you don't want/need. It is anoying if you have to wait for the update to complete, if you have flatrate connection, you may consider a cronjob to update the ports tree for you, say once a week or once a month. If you are newbie, then you might prefer not to update the ports tree so often, new ports may require other ports to be updated that are depended on by yet other ports. This can be a showblocker first time you stumple into it. So, let go with it for a while and get comfy with the OS. > How to use refuse file? See cvsup man page Cheers Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:33:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAE016A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:33:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0805843D55 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:33:37 -0600 Message-ID: <41F13CFA.9050205@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:33:46 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerard Samuel References: <41F136B9.20604@trini0.org> In-Reply-To: <41F136B9.20604@trini0.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2005 17:33:38.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[57776990:01C4FFDF] cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: [Repost] php log to own syslog file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:33:53 -0000 Gerard Samuel wrote: > Im trying to figure out how to setup FreeBSD 5.3 to log > php events to its own log file via syslog. > In /etc/syslog.conf, I added -> > # php logs > !httpd > *.* /var/log/php.log > > I created a empty file for the log -> > gladiator# touch /var/log/php.log > gladiator# ls -l /var/log/php* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 20 16:37 /var/log/php.log > > Then I HUPped syslogd -> > gladiator# ps aux | grep syslogd > root 277 0.0 0.2 1316 908 ?? Is 4:14PM 0:00.01 > /usr/sbin/syslogd -s > gladiator# kill -HUP 277 > > In my php script, Im using -> > define_syslog_variables(); > openlog('TESTING', LOG_NDELAY, LOG_USER); > syslog(LOG_INFO, $message); > closelog(); > > But nothing is being logged to the file. > Am I doing something wrong on the FreeBSD side of things?? > > Thanks PHP as an Apache module? IANAE, but wouldn't you have to change log settings in httpd.conf? Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:34:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8573D16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:34:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B695643D3F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:34:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 80261 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 17:34:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 17:34:18 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.206 From: Alejandro Pulver To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:34:34 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501211434.35146.alejandro@varnet.biz> Subject: Sound Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: alejandro@varnet.biz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:34:21 -0000 Hello: I had a great multimedia experience with FreeBSD (much better than I expected). I have read the Handbook and FAQ, and successfully configured my two sound cards and NVIDIA video card. I enjoyed audio and video playback, and OpenGL games (gl-117, quake3, etc.). However I would like to do a final tuning. I have some questions: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) pcm device numbering I have two sound cards connected to my machine: an integrated SiS 7012 (C-Media Electronics CMI9739 AC97 Codec), managed by the kernel module "snd_ich" and a PCI Genius Sound Maker Value 5.1 (CMedia CMI8738), managed by the kernel module "snd_cmi". I want to use my second sound card (Genius) as the default (pcm0, dsp0, dspr0, mixer0, etc.). If I load the kernel modules manually (with kldload) I obtain the desired results. But if I load them at boot time (with *_load="YES" entries in /boot/loader.conf) the SiS card is detected first and used as the first output device (pcm0). I think that an rc.d script to do that will be very unprolix. Is there a way to specify the pcm device numbering manually (maybe with device.hints)? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) MIDI support (sequencer and synthetizer) I saw that my Genius card shows a mixer entry called "synth" (I suppose it is the input device to record MIDI, if not, please inform me), but it has not a "/dev/sequencer" device. In my second machine I have a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 (emu10k1) and it also has not a sequencer device (and it has not a mixer entry called "synth"). I have read in the page of the "emu10kx" driver (http://chibis.persons.gfk.ru/audigy/) the following: "WARNING: -CURRENT since 2004/05/31 23:22:59 PDT does not have MIDI subsystem! NEWMIDI was removed without replacement." Will be a MIDI sequencer (and synthetizer for SB Live!) in FreeBSD? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit Will be support for this sound cards (24-bit)? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I have included the output of the following commands: 1) uname -a FreeBSD ale.varnet.bsd 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #10: Sat Nov 27 16:20:29 ART 2004 ale@ale.varnet.bsd:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/ATHLON i386 2) cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xc800 irq 17 kld snd_cmi (1p/1r/4v channels duplex default) pcm1: at io 0xdc00, 0xd800 irq 18 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich (1p/1r/1v channels duplex) 3) kldload snd_cmi (log messages) pcm0: at io 0xc800 irq 17 kld snd_cmi (1p/1r/1v channels duplex default) 4) kldload snd_ich (log messages) pcm1: port 0xd800-0xd87f,0xdc00-0xdcff irq 18 at device 2.7 on pci0 pcm1: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm1: 5) mixer -f /dev/mixer0 Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 Mixer bass is currently set to 50:50 Mixer treble is currently set to 50:50 Mixer synth is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 Mixer ogain is currently set to 50:50 Mixer monitor is currently set to 75:75 Recording source: mic 6) mixer -f /dev/mixer1 Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Mixer ogain is currently set to 50:50 Mixer line1 is currently set to 75:75 Mixer phin is currently set to 0:0 Mixer phout is currently set to 0:0 Mixer video is currently set to 75:75 Recording source: mic 7) pciconf -v -l hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x07411849 chip=0x07411039 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS741 CPU to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00031039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS648FX Virtual PCI to PCI Bridge (AGP)' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:2:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00081039 rev=0x25 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge)' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:2:5: class=0x010180 card=0x55131849 chip=0x55131039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS5513 EIDE Controller (A,B step)' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none0@pci0:2:6: class=0x070300 card=0x97391849 chip=0x70131039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS7013 HSP56 MR, PCtel Serial Wave Device (Modem Riser)' class = simple comms pcm1@pci0:2:7: class=0x040100 card=0x70121849 chip=0x70121039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator' class = multimedia subclass = audio ohci0@pci0:3:0: class=0x0c0310 card=0x70011849 chip=0x70011039 rev=0x0f hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ohci1@pci0:3:1: class=0x0c0310 card=0x70011849 chip=0x70011039 rev=0x0f hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB none1@pci0:3:2: class=0x0c0320 card=0x70021849 chip=0x70021039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS7002 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB sis0@pci0:4:0: class=0x020000 card=0x09001849 chip=0x09001039 rev=0x90 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS900 Fast Ethernet/Home Networking Ctrlr' class = network subclass = ethernet pcm0@pci0:9:0: class=0x040100 card=0x011113f6 chip=0x011113f6 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'C-Media Electronics Inc.' device = 'CMI8738/PCI C3DX PCI Audio Chip中国' class = multimedia subclass = audio rl0@pci0:10:0: class=0x020000 card=0x0027a0a0 chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet nvidia0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x018110de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' device = 'GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP 8X [NV18.2]' class = display subclass = VGA 8) pcitweak -l PCI: Probing config type using method 1 PCI: Config type is 1 PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1039,0741 card 1849,0741 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1039,0003 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 PCI: 00:02:0: chip 1039,0008 card 0000,0000 rev 25 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 PCI: 00:02:5: chip 1039,5513 card 1849,5513 rev 00 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 PCI: 00:02:6: chip 1039,7013 card 1849,9739 rev a0 class 07,03,00 hdr 00 PCI: 00:02:7: chip 1039,7012 card 1849,7012 rev a0 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 PCI: 00:03:0: chip 1039,7001 card 1849,7001 rev 0f class 0c,03,10 hdr 80 PCI: 00:03:1: chip 1039,7001 card 1849,7001 rev 0f class 0c,03,10 hdr 00 PCI: 00:03:2: chip 1039,7002 card 1849,7002 rev 00 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00 PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1039,0900 card 1849,0900 rev 90 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 PCI: 00:09:0: chip 13f6,0111 card 13f6,0111 rev 10 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 10ec,8139 card a0a0,0027 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0181 card 0000,0000 rev a2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 PCI: 44:1f:0: chip ffff,ffff card ffff,ffff rev ff class ff,ff,ff hdr 00 PCI: End of PCI scan 9) cat /boot/loader.conf # /boot/loader.conf # Linux Binary Compatibility linux_load="YES" # Linux Proc Filesystem linprocfs_load="YES" # NTFS Filesystem ntfs_load="YES" # NVIDIA Official Video Driver nvidia_load="YES" # CMI8738 sound_load="YES" snd_cmi_load="YES" 10) dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #10: Sat Nov 27 16:20:29 ART 2004 ale@ale.varnet.bsd:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/ATHLON ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ (2019.94-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff AMD Features=0xc0400000 real memory = 536805376 (511 MB) avail memory = 511430656 (487 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 nvidia0: mem 0xc8000000-0xcbffffff, 0xce000000-0xceffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xff00-0xff0f,0x376, 0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 2.6 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 2.7 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xcfffd000-0xcfffdfff irq 20 at device 3.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0xcfffe000-0xcfffefff irq 21 at device 3.1 on pci0 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered pci0: at device 3.2 (no driver attached) sis0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xcfffc000-0xcfffcfff irq 19 at device 4.0 on pci0 miibus0: on sis0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto sis0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:6a:44:14:4c pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff irq 17 at device 9.0 on pci0 rl0: port 0xc400-0xc4ff mem 0xcfffbf00-0xcfffbfff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 miibus1: on rl0 rlphy1: on miibus1 rlphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:40:f4:1e:db:61 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f2-0x3f3 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcefff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2019940220 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 38146MB [77504/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDRW at ata0-slave UDMA33 ad2: 39205MB [79656/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA133 cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad2s4a ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Did I miss some articles/forums/documents related to this? Should I post this kind of questions to the mailing lists instead of contacting questions@FreeBSD.org? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks and Best Regards Alejandro Pulver Buenos Aires, Argentina ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:46:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB1B16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:46:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB7F43D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:46:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005012117464501500d5enge>; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:46:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.16] (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.16]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E981560D3; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:46:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41F1400D.4040204@trini0.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:46:53 -0500 From: Gerard Samuel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <41F136B9.20604@trini0.org> <41F13CFA.9050205@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <41F13CFA.9050205@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: [Repost] php log to own syslog file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:46:46 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Gerard Samuel wrote: > >> Im trying to figure out how to setup FreeBSD 5.3 to log >> php events to its own log file via syslog. >> In /etc/syslog.conf, I added -> >> # php logs >> !httpd >> *.* /var/log/php.log >> >> I created a empty file for the log -> >> gladiator# touch /var/log/php.log >> gladiator# ls -l /var/log/php* >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 20 16:37 /var/log/php.log >> >> Then I HUPped syslogd -> >> gladiator# ps aux | grep syslogd >> root 277 0.0 0.2 1316 908 ?? Is 4:14PM 0:00.01 >> /usr/sbin/syslogd -s >> gladiator# kill -HUP 277 >> >> In my php script, Im using -> >> define_syslog_variables(); >> openlog('TESTING', LOG_NDELAY, LOG_USER); >> syslog(LOG_INFO, $message); >> closelog(); >> >> But nothing is being logged to the file. >> Am I doing something wrong on the FreeBSD side of things?? >> >> Thanks > > > > PHP as an Apache module? IANAE, but wouldn't > you have to change log settings in httpd.conf? I dont think so. These errors, that I want to log, are initiated by the php function syslog() (look at the example above). These messages are supposed to go to the syslogd daemon, not to httpd's log file. In the example above, if I change the priority from "LOG_INFO" to "LOG_WARNING", the error messages go to /var/log/messages. I just need it to start going to its own file. The ultimate goal, is that I want to have a cluster of webservers, logging to a central server. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87C316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:55:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CE443D45 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:55:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BFB3237E51; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:55:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.177]) by av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEB737E44 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:55:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 658DA37E46 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:55:10 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 29020 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Jan 2005 17:55:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:55:09 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Aaron Dalton Message-ID: <20050121175509.GA20720@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Aaron Dalton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41F12A81.4050300@daltons.ca> <20050121164128.GA49680@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <41F1334B.30800@daltons.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F1334B.30800@daltons.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error installing print/latex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:55:12 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 09:52:27AM -0700, Aaron Dalton wrote: > Erik Trulsson wrote: > >On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 09:14:57AM -0700, Aaron Dalton wrote: > > > >>When doing a make on print/latex I get the following error: > >> > >>===> Compressing manual pages for tex-3.14159_2 > >>===> Registering installation for tex-3.14159_2 > >>===> Returning to build of latex2e-2003.12_1 > >>===> Configuring for latex2e-2003.12_1 > >>===> Building for latex2e-2003.12_1 > >>! I can't read tex.pool; bad path? > >>*** Error code 1 > >>Stop in /usr/ports/print/latex. > >> > >>I am sure this is some sort of path thing because tex.pool indeed exists > >>at /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/tex.pool; however, I have been unable > >>to figure out what I need to change where to make it work. > >> > >>I'm running 5.2.1-RELEASE. Any help you could provide would be most > >>appreciated. Thank you for your time! > > > > > >Is there some particular reason why you must use print/latex ? > >If there is not I would suggest that you use print/teTeX instead. > >It is probably more up to date and is what most people use for > >TeX-related stuff. > > > > > > > Well I've only ever used LaTeX. Perhaps I don't need it, but I'm not > sure. I am unfamiliar with the specific differences between plain TeX > and the LaTeX2e macros. I have not used plain TeX myself, but I have got the strong impression that it is PITA. Using the LaTeX macros makes life much easier (which is why very few people use plain TeX, while many people like LaTeX.) > I use Miktex on my windows box and have always > used LaTeX reference materials for composing my documents. LaTeX used > to be installed on this BSD box and I don't recall having any problems > back then (it was installed as a part of print/lilypond). Well, now > that I look through lilypond's Makefile, it appears that latex is a part > of print/teTeX? *is a little confused* I will try installing that instead. print/teTeX does indeed include the LaTeX macros (as well as a whole bunch of other TeX-stuff.) I am fairly sure that print/teTeX includes everything useful that print/latex does and then some. > > What are the differences between print/latex and print/teTeX? Why are > there two ports? It seems to be simply two different ways of package TeX + various macro packages. I don't know why both exist. Historical reasons probably. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:56:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EAA16A4F7 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:56:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail15.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2119143D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:56:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24788 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 17:56:52 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2005 17:56:52 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C17617E; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:56:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: saravanan ganapathy References: <20050121152741.3171.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Jan 2005 12:56:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050121152741.3171.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44is5qr7h8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port update problem - newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:56:53 -0000 saravanan ganapathy writes: > Since I am very new to freebsd, I am not sure abt the > ports collections which I don't want. Then try keeping them all. After the first time, it doesn't take that long to update the collection of makefiles. Note that the ports system does not officially support anything *but* keeping the whole ports tree, so you want to keep the whole thing and update it all at the same time, unless limited bandwidth or limited disk space make that impractical. > I am trying to use freebsd for web hosting servers.Can > you list the ports which are not useful for servers? Not really. And you should have plenty of bandwidth and disk space, so leaving out some of the ports will cost you more effort than it saves. > How to use refuse file? The cvsup manual covers this quite well. ("man cvsup") But again, I advise you not to bother. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 17:59:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB2716A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:59:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61305.mail.yahoo.com (web61305.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E917843D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:59:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benfsalem@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 90735 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2005 17:59:21 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=t6p0ENjgizIpTBF0wRx+PyYW6yMtHX2NXAuSxIZQhUS6vL+bIR+JJ0uR4slUVJ1HxtTCCgaKqkLnw8Kg+gttqaJMRazan0rxuTWHwvpNUH+hctC0ohjDDxsaDLIe7+mh+oL50nB8KVAFaHvPisB4dfi54/+asgJI3D244CN1OHc= ; Message-ID: <20050121175921.90732.qmail@web61305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.102.5.123] by web61305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:59:21 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:59:21 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Salem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Fwd: "Cannot dump. No dump device defined" while using sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:59:22 -0000 Ben Salem wrote:Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:40:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Salem To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: "Cannot dump. No dump device defined" while using sysinstall After booting w/ floppies, installation with 5.3-RELEASE fails in /stand/sysinstall when using fdisk, or anything else besides the sysinstall menu it seems. I don't think it's specific to fdisk though. Im installing on an AMD-k6 200mhz(intel mobo w/ award bios), w/64mb ram, s3-virge pci vid-card, and a realtek isa ethernet card. This is the full output of the error message: ----------------------------------------------------- panic: page fault Uptime: 1h39m46s Cannot dump. No dump device defined. Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort --> Press a key on the console to reboot, --> or switch off the system now. ------------------------------------------------------ I left the sysinstall menu on the second time for over an hour to see if it was caused by me doing things or not. It definetly only does it when Im trying to continue with the installation (fdisk, label editor, an actual funtion, not just strolling through the menu. Any help at all is greatly appreciated. Thank you, Ben Salem Wichita, Ks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:07:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CE416A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:07:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbound-mail.lax.untd.com (outbound-mail.lax.untd.com [64.136.28.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3F7A43D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:07:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hamsadhvani@netzero.com) Received: from outbound29-sr.lax.untd.com (webmail04.lax.untd.com [10.131.27.144]) by smtpout06.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABA9CTHHA44WHJJ ); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:07:35 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: c5MncO6oi0kX4yQOgHmR5lYni93/vazDhVkdvR6iZLkHPVtDNQpDcDQ304QpHyTo Received: (from hamsadhvani@netzero.com) by webmail04.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id KHVWB6EC; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:06:45 PST Received: from [64.136.49.227] by webmail04.lax.untd.com with HTTP: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:06:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.136.49.227] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "hamsadhvani@netzero.com" Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:06:09 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: WebMail Version 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20050121.100645.24079.35746@webmail04.lax.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:2:552489020 Subject: Error installing softwares on FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:07:42 -0000 I completed the BSD 5.3 instllation on my Dell Desktop using the first CD of the 4 CD set. I installed all the ports and distributions in the first CD. But when I tried to 'make install' emacs from the /usr/ports/editors/emacs20 directory I get a lot of messages which says 'Attemting to fetch from : : No address record And finally an error message which says: Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this port manually into usr/ports/distfiles and try again Error code 1 Same is the case with other softwates and utilities. I don't have FTP configured on my computer. Do I have to get the CVS repository installed? If so please give me the instructions or a link. Is it necessary that I install the rest of the CDs? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:30:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274F516A4CF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7839343D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:30:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO chesed.razorfever.net) (plick@rogers.com@70.25.112.61 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 18:30:06 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (newskool.razorfever.net [192.168.0.10]) j0LIU5nA025657 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:30:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from derekm.nospam@rogers.com) Message-ID: <41F14A2D.90702@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:30:05 -0500 From: Derek User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j Subject: Re: Xmms FreeBSD and buzzing or skipping sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:30:08 -0000 Jason Henson wrote: > Something like hw.acpi.pci.link.0.6.0.irq=16 #irq pcm in / > boot/loader.conf. Maybe you could also try changing the pci clock, by > this I mean the number of tics or cycles a device can control the bus. > I have mine set to 96. A number between 96-128 usaully increases > performance of some pci devices on bench marks I have. You should > search for some of them to see if there is a good setting for your pc. Thanks for your response Jason. I won't be in a position to test the machine until tomorrow, but I'll follow up then. Cheers, Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:33:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C9616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:33:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3694543D45 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:33:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from brillig.panix.com (brillig.panix.com [166.84.1.76]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64BC981BF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (pcp08632294pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by brillig.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0242AA0E for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cs3b8-00030f-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:33:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:33:30 -0500 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20050121183330.GA11552@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 13:31:10 up 15 days, 18:11, 1 user, load average: 0.19, 0.19, 0.13 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Starting kdm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:33:31 -0000 Is kdm still run from /etc/ttys? The reason I aks is that I have a machine that I use gdm on, and I kow it's not run from /etc/ttys anymore. -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:35:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE46316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:35:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61306.mail.yahoo.com (web61306.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4810F43D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:35:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from boris_spirial@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 84830 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2005 18:35:51 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67E916A4EB for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:36:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FC843D4C for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:36:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id BB2EA28824 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:36:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 4670129566 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:03:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7435A615A for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:02:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0LF2vhN089643 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:02:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:02:57 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050121155903.K2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: location of kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:36:09 -0000 Can anyone please tell me where the kernel modules are located, and where are they described? I ask this so that I can figure out which to include/exclude in OPTIONS_OVERRIDE in /whatever/make.conf (separate post). I'd hate to *guess* at what to include/exclude, that sounds sort of risky..and I'm assuming there must be some method for doing this for someone of my (thus far) hopelessly limited experience. Regards & TIA, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Fri Jan 21 16:02:00 CET 2005 4:02PM up 1 day, 4:52, 5 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:38:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F2516A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:38:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.adventuras.no (mail.adventuras.no [194.63.250.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C63743D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:38:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars@adventuras.no) Received: from mail.adventuras.no (seven [127.0.0.1]) by mail.adventuras.no (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0LIcBTi020140 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:38:11 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by mail.adventuras.no (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j0LIcBtL020137; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:38:11 +0100 Received: from 213.236.228.129 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lars); by mail.adventuras.no with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:38:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <53261.213.236.228.129.1106332691.squirrel@213.236.228.129> In-Reply-To: <20050121163902.7E77E43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20050121163902.7E77E43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:38:11 +0100 (CET) From: "Lars Kristiansen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-1 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Adventuras: du kan filtrere etter AdvSpamScore over 5-10 X-Adventuras-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.899, required 7, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -3.30, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: lars@adventuras.no Subject: Re: Exporting mounted filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:38:26 -0000 > Hi, > > i am running FBSD 4.10 and i am trying to export mounted filesystems ( usb > stick and cdrom ) > > currently there are 2 subdirs in /mnt: da0 and cdrom. >From "man exports" : "................... specifies the mount point(s) and export flags within one local server file system for one or more hosts................................." > > when i mount_nfs this machine's /mnt on another machine, i see the > underlying filesystem, not the mounted ones ( ie: da0 is empty, while on > the exporting machine, da0 is not empty ) > > what am i doing wrong? > > regards, > > Jan Branbergen_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:38:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E2616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:38:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5633B43D48 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:38:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31346130; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:38:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96182-08; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:38:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62D86121; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:38:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41F14C3D.3050602@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:38:53 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Spirialitious References: <20050121183551.84828.qmail@web61306.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050121183551.84828.qmail@web61306.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:38:46 -0000 Boris Spirialitious wrote: > Colin Raven vomits: > > >>I have nothing but *stellar* regard for the individuals who take such >>immense time and effort to help others on this list. I feel privileged >>to belong to this community, and grateful for a huge amount of guidance >>advice and help I've received here. I wouldn't have a working OS >>without > > >>also wildly enthusiastic about this incredible OS. I can't say enough >>good things about it. Simply put, it's the best (for what I utilize it >>for anyways!!) > > > You are what we call wimp in Russia. Does your woman beat you also? Knock it of -- Best regards, Chris A RACF protected dataset is inaccessible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:47:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED58016A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:47:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5FD43D53 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:47:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aeder@list.ru) Received: from [82.179.204.50] (port=1718 helo=gateway.my.home) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1Cs3oA-000GSK-00; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:46:58 +0300 Received: from [10.0.1.5] (megagame.my.home [10.0.1.5]) by gateway.my.home (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j0LIkkHs008753; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:46:46 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from aeder@list.ru) Message-ID: <41F14F28.4040105@list.ru> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:51:20 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?Q?=C0=EB=E5=EA=F1=E0=ED=E4=F0_=C4=E5=F0=E5=E2=FF=ED?= =?windows-1251?Q?=EA=EE?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1251?Q?=C4=EC=E8=F2=F0=E8=E9_=C2=EB=E0=E4=E8=EC=E8=F0=EE=E2?= =?windows-1251?Q?=E8=F7?= References: <1887428948.20050121084645@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <1887428948.20050121084645@mail.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Release 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:47:01 -0000 Äěčňđčé Âëŕäčěčđîâč÷ wrote: >Çäđŕâńňâóéňĺ, . > >Ďîäńęŕćčňĺ ďîćŕëóéńňŕ, ˙ ńëűřŕë číôîđěŕöčţ ÷ňî FreeBSD 5.3 íĺ >ďîňäĺđćčâŕĺň đŕçäĺëű FAT32 đŕçěĺđîě áîëüřĺ 128Gb? ňŕę ëč ýňî? > > > Look at http://freebsdaddicts.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=2151 It seems as it was supported in later versions of FreeBSD. P.S. Quick search in Google will answer most common questions... Best reards, Alexander Derevianko. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 18:56:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D3716A4CF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:56:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB62A43D5D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from w4wr@bellsouth.net) Received: from CPQ17 ([65.6.181.87]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050121185626.JGMA1977.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@CPQ17> for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:56:26 -0500 From: "Warren Rothberg" To: Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:56:11 -0500 Message-ID: <005d01c4ffea$e3366700$260110ac@CPQ17> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: Sound on Compaq Presario 2500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:56:28 -0000 Did you ever get an answer on this problem? I have a Compaq Presario 2500 and although sound OUTPUT is fine in all respects, I can not get the microphone input to work....not even in Sound Recorder. Numerous calls to HP Support have produced no hint of a solution. The last rep advised me to bring the computer in Radio Shack (right.....). XP SP1 here. Warren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 19:30:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2079716A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:30:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B04043D45 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LJRwea039125; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:27:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0LJRrM1039124; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:27:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:27:53 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-ID: <20050121192753.GA38849@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: "Colin J. Raven" , FreeBSD Questions References: <20050121155903.K2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050121155903.K2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: location of kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:30:24 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 04:02:57PM +0100 Colin J. Raven wrote: > Can anyone please tell me where the kernel modules are located, and > where are they described? I ask this so that I can figure out which to > include/exclude in OPTIONS_OVERRIDE in /whatever/make.conf (separate > post). > > I'd hate to *guess* at what to include/exclude, that sounds sort of > risky..and I'm assuming there must be some method for doing this for > someone of my (thus far) hopelessly limited experience. > The kernel modules are located in the /usr/src/sys/modules directory. I have determined what to use and not use by both reviewing the dmesg output and doing a whatis on each module. Running whatis on each module seems to take forever but it is how I did it. Maybe someone else knows of a quicker way. Here is the list of modules I have included in the MODULES_OVERRIDE directive. accf_data accf_http acpi agp aio amd aout bios cam cd9660 cd9660_iconv cp crypto cryptodev dc dcons dcons_crom fdc fdescfs geom i2c io libiconv linux lpt mac_biba mac_bsdextended mac_ifoff mac_lomac mac_mls mac_none mac_partition mac_portacl mac_seeotheruids mac_stub mac_test mem mii netgraph pccard ppbus ppi pps random rc rc4 re rndtest safe sem sound speaker splash syscons sysvipc ubsa ufs ugen uhid unionfs usb vesa vinum zlib I've probably included more modules than I will ever use, but I think it gives you an idea. You will *definitely* want to modify the modules to your specific hardware. Regards Gardner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 19:34:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3014F16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:34:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53FCA43D4C for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:34:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@evation.com) Received: (qmail 26321 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 19:34:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ip51cf88d9.direct-adsl.nl) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 19:34:01 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 81.207.136.217 Date: 21 Jan 2005 20:27:00 CET From: Jan Branbergen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/mixed; BOUNDARY="0-1804289383-1106336041=:49559" Message-Id: <20050121193402.53FCA43D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Exporting mounted filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:34:03 -0000 --0-1804289383-1106336041=:49559 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Description: body >> Hi, > > > > i am running FBSD 4.10 and i am trying to export mounted > filesystems ( usb > > stick and cdrom ) > > > > currently there are 2 subdirs in /mnt: da0 and cdrom. > >From "man exports" : > "................... specifies the mount point(s) and export flags > within > one local server > file system for one or more > hosts................................." I will try to clarify: HOST1: /etc/exports: /mnt -network 192.168.1 -mask 255.255.255.0 -maproot=0 my /mnt contains 2 directories: da0 and cdrom next, on this machine i mount a usb stick: mount_msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt/da0 or a CD mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /mnt/cdrom HOST2: however, when i mount this exported /mnt on another machine ( mount_nfs HOST1:/mnt /mnt ), i do not see the mounted CD or usbstick, just the plain empty da0 and cdrom directories. i can see the files on the CD and usbstick on the local machine fine. even if i mount the CDROM directly onto /mnt mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /mnt i still see just the underlying filesystem ( with 2 empty dirs: da0 and cdrom ) what am I doing wrong? regards, Jan Branbergen --0-1804289383-1106336041=:49559-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 19:44:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E1616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:44:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.tele-kom.ru (mx.tele-kom.ru [213.80.148.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E527C43D2D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:44:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doublef@tele-kom.ru) Received: (qmail 99802 invoked by uid 555); 21 Jan 2005 19:49:50 -0000 Received: from shark (213.80.149.166) by t-k.ru with TeleMail/2 id 1106336988-99780 for freebsd@evation.com; Fri, 21 Jan 22:49:48 2005 +0300 (MSK) Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9EC999DB54; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:44:43 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:44:42 +0300 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Jan Branbergen Message-ID: <20050121194442.GA18326@shark.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Zaharchenko , Jan Branbergen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050121193402.53FCA43D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050121193402.53FCA43D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Listening-To: /Machina_Vremeni/Beliy_den cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exporting mounted filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:44:55 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 08:27:00PM +0100, Jan Branbergen probably wrote: Content-Description: body > >> Hi, > > > > > > i am running FBSD 4.10 and i am trying to export mounted > > filesystems ( usb > > > stick and cdrom ) > > > > > > currently there are 2 subdirs in /mnt: da0 and cdrom. > > >From "man exports" : > > "................... specifies the mount point(s) and export flags > > within > > one local server > > file system for one or more > > hosts................................." >=20 > I will try to clarify: >=20 > HOST1: >=20 > /etc/exports: > /mnt -network 192.168.1 -mask 255.255.255.0 -maproot=3D0 >=20 > my /mnt contains 2 directories: da0 and cdrom >=20 > next, on this machine i mount a usb stick: > mount_msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt/da0=20 You export a filesystem, not a directory with its subdirectories. You need to export /mnt/da0 etc. explicitly it /etc/exports. --=20 DoubleF Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8Vuowo7hT/9lVdwRAl3MAJ4xcN+BmbPjKJOHPCwJekHZ+eOyrwCdGZ16 clg5XR0Gp95qXhRP+sml/ZA= =O+ji -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 20:39:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DB816A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:39:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.notarius.org (emma.notarius.com [207.253.43.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6B443D53 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.robillard@notarius.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:39:53 -0500 Message-ID: <7E329942919D504787E9424F728893F8013E0440@EMMA.notarius.lan> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unattended 5.3 install post-configuration problem. Thread-Index: AcT/+Vx5Iku1NdxRRbm8ZAwebE0FFg== From: "David Robillard" To: Subject: Unattended 5.3 install post-configuration problem. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:39:58 -0000 Hello everyone, I've setup an unattended automatic FreeBSD-5.3 install server. Clients boot via PXE and receive the OS in around 15 minutes using a sysinstall(8) script. I need to perfom post-install configuration, so I wrote a post_install.sh shell script which is called at the end of the sysinstall(8) script. My problem is that I can't get my post-install script to modify rc.conf(5) because sysinstall(8) re-writes the file and removes=20 my configurations (all lines from rc.conf(5) starts with `#REMOVE' ). The sysinstall(8) man page only says: This utility may edit the contents of /etc/rc.conf, /etc/hosts, and /etc/resolv.conf as necessary to reflect changes in the network configuration. How can I prevent or circumvent this "feature" of sysinstall??? Any help would be really appreciated. Here are the files: # From sysinstall(8) install.cfg: # command=3D/stand/post_install.sh system # From /stand/post_install.sh # cat <<- "END" > /tmp/a # rc.conf # # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # # David Robillard, December 13th, 2004 =20 check_quotas=3D"YES" # Check quotas. hostname=3D"hostname.domain.com" # Hostname. ifconfig_bge0=3D"inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" # Configure NIC bge0. keyrate=3D"normal" # Set normal keyboard repeatrate. nisdomainname=3D"NO" # We don't run NIS. saver=3D"blank" # Blank screen when idle. scrnmap=3D"NO" # Screen map in /usr/share/syscons/scrnmaps/* sshd_enable=3D"YES" # Start sshd(8). usbd_enable=3D"YES" # Start usbd(8). tcp_drop_synfin=3D"YES" # Prevent OS finger printing. sendmail_enable=3D"NO" # Bind sendmail(8) to locahost only. syslogd_enable=3D"YES" # Start syslogd(8). syslogd_flags=3D"-ss" # Receive syslogd(8) from = local machine only. inetd_enable=3D"NO" # Don't run inetd(8). icmp_drop_redirect=3D"YES" # Drop ICMP redirect. icmp_log_redirect=3D"YES" # Log dropped ICMP redirect. clear_tmp_enable=3D"YES" # Clear /tmp at startup. update_motd=3D"NO" # Don't update motd(5) at startup. =20 # EOF END mv /tmp/a /root/rc.conf cp /root/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf Cheers, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator david.robillard@notarius.com +1 514 966 0122 -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator david.robillard@notarius.com +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 20:44:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E15616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:44:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.foolishgames.com (mail.foolishgames.com [216.55.178.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2774943D41 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:44:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laffer1@mail.foolishgames.com) Received: from mail.foolishgames.com (localhost.dedicated.abac.net [127.0.0.1])j0LLlaBb056364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:47:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laffer1@mail.foolishgames.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.foolishgames.com: Host localhost.dedicated.abac.net [127.0.0.1] claimed to be mail.foolishgames.com Received: from localhost (laffer1@localhost)j0LLlaVi056361; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:47:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laffer1@mail.foolishgames.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:47:36 -0800 (PST) From: laffer1 To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <441xcesr0t.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: <20050121134309.N56273@mail.foolishgames.com> References: <441xcesr0t.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: Lucas Holt cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ftp/fetch can not connect to ftp sites. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:44:18 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > It sounds like you have a new firewall (intentionally or not) in the > form of your cable "modem." Why do you have the portrange set low? > The fact that you apparently have similar problems under other > operating systems may indicate that FreeBSD can't actually solve this > for you. If your cable modem is doing firewalling (or, even more > insidious, NAT) without your knowledge, then you will need to > understand just how it is configured before you can make any progress > at all. > > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > Thanks for the reply! I set the port range low because i was following an ipfw tutorial when i set it up. I probably should change that :) Other operating systems work fine actually. I found the problem last night. I had changed the /etc/services file a few months ago to try to get a friend to connect to the ftp server because he was behind a weird firewall. I forgot about it. So by default fetch and ftp (cli) would use port 9000 instead of port 21. I feel a bit stupid on this one! I didn't realize that fetch and ftp used the value from /etc/services. After fixing that I was able to update some ports. Luke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 20:51:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E2A16A534 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:51:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cepheus.email.starband.net (cepheus.email.starband.net [148.78.247.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CC643D55 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:51:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottclansman@cwazy.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (vsat-148-63-97-60.c002.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.63.97.60])j0LKrTdh027605 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:53:33 -0500 Message-ID: <41F15B8B.2090205@cwazy.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:44:11 -0600 From: SigmaX User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Webmin setup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:51:13 -0000 Hey; I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on my old Celeron testbed/backup server (First-time FreeBSD user here, Linux before). I did 'pkg_add -r webmin' to install webmin, and I added 'webmin_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf, but haven't a clue what to do now to set it up. Any help? Thanx, SigmaX From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 20:55:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2378C16A4D1 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:55:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F7343D48 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:55:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:9853 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cs5o8-0007kR-Cl; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:55:04 +0000 Received: from aseed.demon.nl (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E297B1A9A7; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:55:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by aseed.demon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730E02C884; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:55:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([192.168.0.48]) by localhost (aseed.antenna.nl [192.168.0.48]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08843-02; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:54:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from aseed.demon.nl (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by aseed.demon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EB52C7D6; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:54:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from 82.197.198.30 (SquirrelMail authenticated user albi); by aseed.demon.nl with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:54:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <57072.82.197.198.30.1106340898.squirrel@82.197.198.30> In-Reply-To: <41F15B8B.2090205@cwazy.co.uk> References: <41F15B8B.2090205@cwazy.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:54:58 +0100 (CET) From: "albi" To: "SigmaX" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aseed.antenna.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmin setup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:55:26 -0000 > I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on my old Celeron testbed/backup server > (First-time FreeBSD user here, Linux before). I did 'pkg_add -r webmin' > to install webmin, and I added 'webmin_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf, > but haven't a clue what to do now to set it up. the /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin/pkg-message says the following : =================================== To reconfigure webmin you should run the following command as root: ${LOCALBASE}/lib/webmin/setup.sh You won't have to perform this step after every webmin upgrade. Since 1.150_2, to run webmin from startup, add webmin_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf. =================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 21:27:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D60516A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:27:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.wtatours.org (cust-68.188.123.130.cbnstl.net [68.188.123.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0640543D49 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:27:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pc_guru@charterinternet.com) Received: from PSARFME by mail.wtatours.org (Merak 7.5.2) with SMTP id LZF02350 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:27:32 -0600 X-Mailer: Eudora From: "PC GURU" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:27:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20050121212739.0640543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:27:40 -0000 Hello questions@freebsd.org, Happy New Year to you. Well, I ended 2004 by being called a "nigger" several times by a white terrorist in APPLEBEES on December 30. The reason I'm posting you is to seek your advice as to what rights I have in a violent verbal assault, and hate crime situation like this. What would you do if something this devilish had happened to you? This is the second time this has happened to me in the same Applebees. The first time was about five years ago when I overheard a professional person using the "N" word to a white woman friend of his as they sat across from me at the bar. She was telling him that she had found a new boyfriend and thought that things were going to work out well for her. The fellow looked at her and then said "I hope he's not a "nigger" I was astounded that he had said something so lowlife in a full club with about 20 people sitting at the bar and the rest of the tables nearby full as well. The bartender had been living with an African American male for over five years at the time. She looked astounded, and turned to me as if she couldn't believe her ears. I turned to the white people on each side of me, and asked them if they were going to say something to the person. They are always saying that they are not prejudiced. so this would have been the perfect time for some of them to back up their words with action. They did nothing! They just looked at each other in that silly "HUH Head" look that they utilize when they run into an idea that they had never considered before on the subject of race. The manager did come out and ask him to leave. He did so and to my knowledge he has never gone back. I have seen the fellow in other clubs where the clientele is more receptive to his modo di pensare. I did nothing official that time. This time I'm trying to determine what the best way to proceed would be. Here are most of the facts as to what occurred last Thursday, the 30th of December 2004. I went out to Applebees here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri around 2100. I sat on the north end of the bar next to several young white women. One of them was named "VanMater" from the Buick family here. I talked to them about various subjects for about 30 minutes and bought them some Frangelico. They had never tasted it so I thought I would let them sample something different since they were kind enough to talk to me a 58 year young African American. Most whites won't. Then they left and a friend of mine from Birmingham Alabama called me on his cell phone. We talked for about fifteen minutes about the state of the world and how savage, and inhumane so many Americans are in their thinking when it comes to how they view others around the world. Out of the corner of my right eye, I notice the young blond white woman to my right pushing a picture of a cute bi-racial child towards me. I picked it up and looked at it. Then I complimented the female on having a little girl that was so cute. After a few more minutes of talking to my friend, I hung up and started talking to the young blonde white woman, her female friend next to her, and her Canadian boyfriend to her right. The blonde's name was what it is. She said she was a hair stylist at a salon here. I was telling them about how my cousin owned the Harlem Globetrotter basketball team, and how there had been a couple of streets named after my mothers family around here. I was basically giving them a quick history on some black folks who were highly respected in this area. After about twenty minutes or so this 40ish white ball cap wearing, truck driver looking white fellow across the bar asked me when we had graduated from high school. I told him when I had graduated, and then N told him when she graduated. The white supremacist then said "One of you is right, and one of you is a fucking nigger" I picked up my cell phone and called the police as the Applebees manager was not on the scene. I had no idea what that piece of white trash would do next. After a few minutes Ed, the manager came over to the WS, and told him that he had to leave the club. The fellow got up and slowly walked toward the door selling wolf tickets all the way. The policeman arrived and he stood in the vestibule and talked to the manager of Applebees. He never came over and asked me anything; nor did he advise me of my rights in that situation. I'm one of the charter members of Applebees here. I have been going there since about six months after they opened in 1991, and I've never had a serious incident like this one So I went back to talking to the three people. Now of course we were talking about the white supremacist and his actions. One white 20ish female caught my eye, grinned and gave me the thumbs up sign. Apparently she was happy that he was gone. After about 20 minutes, another young white female stopped behind me and told me that the fellow was still in the parking lot in his truck. None of the other white men there, except for the canadian fella I was talking to had anything positive to say to me, and they said nothing to the WS who started the whole incident. Why am I not surprised? So I called the police department again. I relayed the information to the police and sat back once more. After a few minutes the officer arrived and for the second time, the Applebees manager met him in the vestibule, and they talked for a few minutes. Again, the policeman never came over to talk to me at all. Now I really felt something odd was going on because I'm the one doing the calling, but no one wants to talk to me. Is that normal police procedure now across the USA? Nicole was very quiet while the white guy was calling me a nigger. She got on her cell phone and called her biracial boyfriend and told him to come by. The other couple got Up and left after a half hour or so. Then this attractive light skinned black man about 25 came in and Nicole snuggled up in his arms as he sat down beside her. She told him what had happened and he began telling us what all behind he would have kicked had it been done to him. He told me he was a criminal and didn't play that sort of mess. The more we discussed it the more they seemed to try to blame me for everything. I asked Nicole why she had become such a chatterbox now that her black boyfriend had arrived. She laughed and said that she felt safe now. They continued spewing out all sort of nonsense about race that mentally confused Bi-racials, and uninformed Caucasians tend to do. So after fifteen minutes of listening to their ignorance, I told them I had to go. I wished them a happy New Year and walked outside to the parking lot. I saw the truck was still there. So when I left I drove around town in a random manner for about fifteen minutes to see if I was being followed. When I felt that I wasn't I headed on home and called it a night. I decided to stay home for New Years eve as I didn't want to run into any more of these beer drinking, ball cap wearing rabid, mad dog, psychotic folks like I had the night before. I didn't want to start the New Year being a victim, or being in jail for harming some piece of trash. I haven't heard anything at all from Applebees yet. I'm not surprised however. They didn't say or do anything when I called them about the first incident. So there you have it. What should I do in this situation? What are my rights? I've emailed Applebees twice, and spoke to them twice, but so far they have done nothing. I think an apology is owed and reparations should be given. I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. Amicably Yours If you have a interest in being helpful to me then, email me at clb6969@charterinternet.com So mote it be From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 21:47:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB8F16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:47:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Gina.esfm.ipn.mx (esfm.ipn.mx [148.204.102.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8751743D53 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:47:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx) Received: from Gina.esfm.ipn.mx (localhost.esfm.ipn.mx [127.0.0.1]) by Gina.esfm.ipn.mx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0LLhlxC042730; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:43:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx) Received: from localhost (mrspock@localhost)j0LLhii6042721; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:43:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx) X-Authentication-Warning: Gina.esfm.ipn.mx: mrspock owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:43:44 -0600 (CST) From: Eduardo Viruena Silva To: Jason Henson In-Reply-To: <1106284281l.49858l.5l@BARTON> Message-ID: <20050121154038.U42327@Gina.esfm.ipn.mx> References: <20050120171507.J53758@Gina.esfm.ipn.mx> <1106284281l.49858l.5l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: QLogic 2312 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:47:16 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Jason Henson wrote: > On 01/20/05 18:33:04, Eduardo Viruena Silva wrote: > > > > > > Hello FreeBSD gurus! > > I have a question for you. > > > > We have a small mounster: HP Proliant BL20 > > two Xeon processors, 2Gb RAM, QLogic SCSI > > 2312, and some other scary characteristics. > > > > Now, I installed FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE almost > > accidentally. I mean, it seemed to me that > > our computer got frozen when it was booting > > with the FreeBSD CDROM, no, it didn't, > > it was just taking 10 minutes to check the > > scsi card. > > > > My kernel boot log says: > > > > Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. > > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, > > 1994 > > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > > reserved. > > FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 > > root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > > > ... > > > > isp0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem > > 0xf7dd0000-0xf7dd0fff irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci1 > > isp0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > isp0: Polled Mailbox Command (0x2) Timeout > > isp0: Polled Mailbox Command (0x8) Timeout > > device_attach: isp0 attach returned 6 > > isp1: port 0x3400-0x34ff mem > > 0xf7dc0000-0xf7dc0fff irq 11 at device 3.1 on pci1 > > isp1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > isp1: Polled Mailbox Command (0x2) Timeout > > isp1: Polled Mailbox Command (0x8) Timeout > > device_attach: isp1 attach returned 6 > > > > There, in the GIANT-LOCKEDs and timeouts... > > > > Now, my computer boots ok, but the booting process > > takes 20 minutes!!! > > > > I also cvsup-graded my computer, built world, installed it, > > customized my kernel, installed it. Now the kernel > > reports to be FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 but still takes > > 20 minutes to boot. > > > > My questions are: > > WHY it takes so long? > > Can I do something to fix this problem? > > > Did a google for "isp0: Polled Mailbox Command (0x2) Timeout" and the > 3rd item to come up was, I think, your answer. > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=15842+0+archive/2001/freebsd-scsi/20010729.freebsd-scsi > > It says you need to load the firmware for your scsi from /boot/ > loader.conf to boot. > > Effectively, I enabled the ROM of our scsi cards and everything worked ok. The only problem was that disc 0 became disc 2... I do not know why. It was, in my opinion a simple problem I can live with, that only took 1 minute to solve by changing my /etc/fstab. Thanks Jason! Thanks list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 21:59:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5027716A4DC for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:59:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93DE43D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:59:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEFA3000636 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:59:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F17B3E.5050104@uni-mainz.de> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:59:26 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-15?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050102 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: options PREEMPTION: system failure issue? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:59:45 -0000 Hello. I have a very simple question about the kernel options options PREEMPTION options MUTEX_WAKE_ALL Have they performance penalties, stability issues in FreeBSD 5.3 (especially SMP environment but also in UP environment)? PREEMPTION ist listet in "NOTES" as a debuggin option but discussed prior here as a performance boost. Thanks, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:03:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8B816A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:03:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833B543D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:03:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.177]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF941102AA for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37]) [66.133.131.177]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32093-51-34 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-45-225.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.45.225]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A498101D9 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [165.107.42.204] (unknown [165.107.42.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD7E3BF3C1 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:03:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:03:12 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: What Port Installs /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:03:22 -0000 I'm attempting to upgrade the libiconv port from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2 but keep getting this error: libtool15: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' A 'ls' of /usr/local/lib confirms this file doesn't exist. What port should I install to get this file? Seems like it is part of this port, as I see several references to it in the build output. However I don't see any error regarding it other than the one above. My complete build output can be viewed here: http://drew.mykitchentable.net/libiconv.log Thanks for your help! Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:07:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0917F16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:07:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C361943D46 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:07:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20402388CB5; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:07:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:07:24 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: PC GURU , questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050121212739.0640543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20050121212739.0640543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:07:26 -0000 --On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU wrote: > > I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time > to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you > think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. > 1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions? Read the charter. This isn't a self-help group. 2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the beam from your own. (white trash? They? Most whites?) 3) This is America. You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid stuff. 4) Apparently all the white chicks love you. So at least half of your "enemies" are your friends. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:08:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEA916A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:08:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.meangrape.com (mail.meangrape.com [209.223.7.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4000D43D3F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:08:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay@meangrape.com) Received: (qmail 63794 invoked by uid 1002); 21 Jan 2005 22:10:51 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:10:51 -0600 From: Jay To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20050121221051.GA53067@mail.meangrape.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jay , "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41F17B3E.5050104@uni-mainz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F17B3E.5050104@uni-mainz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: options PREEMPTION: system failure issue? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:08:05 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:59:26PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Have they performance penalties, stability issues in FreeBSD 5.3 > (especially SMP > environment but also in UP environment)? I would bet a month's salary that they have performance penalties. There's a lot of overhead associated with most of the "for debugging" options in the kernel. If you don't know why you need one of those options, you probably don't need them. (Now, if you're running -CURRENT, it's a different story, but if you're running -CURRENT, you should know if you need them). -- Jay. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:20:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907D316A4CF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:20:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC9E43D46 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:20:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so174894rnz for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:20:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mub1xvSja0WjGDOHSobZqRJLX9djE6VzJB9LapsTEq//V/Y9f/5Uc6+ps5LxrKAYHTLdqkELfCGHxs4TFpsws2dokBcqT7wuh20XJBRWkRPkaO0fcajFbTDVhyUmL4TBv6p4Z4PS456fUr4SxXFnSQnF20kwF1h+Um1QQGY6owI= Received: by 10.38.8.49 with SMTP id 49mr388905rnh; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.43 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:20:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:20:58 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:20:59 -0000 All, I have been evaluating operating systems/filesystems for an upcoming web application service. Like most "web applications", it will rely heavily on the database and disk I/O. We have decided to use Postgresql for our database needs, but haven't finalized our OS choice. I have been testing the I/O performance of FreeBSD 5.3 and Fedora C3(XFS,EXT3). To be sure that I was using up to date versions of each OS I performed a cvsup and rebuilt the kernel (GENERIC) during the FBSD setup, and a yum update on the Linux install. Being fairly new to FreeBSD I was testing it as a matter of due diligence, however after using it for a few days it really started to grow on me. I was generally impressed with my overall experiance. However, after performing a number of I/O and Postgresql tests on different equipment, the performance proved to be considerably faster when using Fedora. Fedora with XFS was the clear performance winner in every test, followed by Fedora with EXT3, then FreeBSD. I was surprised to find such a dramatic difference between Fedora with XFS and FreeBSD. In almost every test Fedora(XFS) was dramatically faster performing the exact same operations on the same hardware. My best guess, is that FreeBSD 5.3 + updates is still in need of some performance tuning. Are there any good reasons for such a difference. Your thoughts are appreciated. Thanks! --Nick Pavlica From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:23:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502AB16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:23:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A5A43D46 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:23:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 2ACD928568; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:23:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id EC7D228565; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:23:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198CE615A; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:23:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0LMN49Y093897; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:23:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:23:03 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Gardner Bell In-Reply-To: <20050121192753.GA38849@gardnerbell.ca> Message-ID: <20050121231534.D2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050121155903.K2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050121192753.GA38849@gardnerbell.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: location of kernel modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:23:10 -0000 On Jan 21 at 14:27, Gardner Bell launched this into the bitstream: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 04:02:57PM +0100 Colin J. Raven wrote: >> Can anyone please tell me where the kernel modules are located, and >> where are they described? I ask this so that I can figure out which to >> include/exclude in OPTIONS_OVERRIDE in /whatever/make.conf (separate >> post). >> >> I'd hate to *guess* at what to include/exclude, that sounds sort of >> risky..and I'm assuming there must be some method for doing this for >> someone of my (thus far) hopelessly limited experience. >> > The kernel modules are located in the /usr/src/sys/modules directory. > I have determined what to use and not use by both reviewing the dmesg > output and doing a whatis on each module. Running whatis on each > module seems to take forever but it is how I did it. Maybe someone > else knows of a quicker way. > aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh...module_location+dmesg_output+whatis - PERFECT! That's enough to get rolling - GREAT!!!!!!! > Here is the list of modules I have included in the MODULES_OVERRIDE > directive. > accf_data accf_http acpi agp aio amd aout bios cam cd9660 cd9660_iconv > cp crypto cryptodev dc dcons dcons_crom fdc fdescfs geom i2c io > libiconv linux lpt mac_biba mac_bsdextended mac_ifoff mac_lomac > mac_mls mac_none mac_partition mac_portacl mac_seeotheruids mac_stub > mac_test mem mii netgraph pccard ppbus ppi pps random rc rc4 re > rndtest safe sem sound speaker splash syscons sysvipc ubsa ufs ugen > uhid unionfs usb vesa vinum zlib > > I've probably included more modules than I will ever use, but I think > it gives you an idea. You will *definitely* want to modify the > modules to your specific hardware. > Thanks for that! Unusually the handbook seemed somewhat sparse on such details, but to balance that out, there's obviously a finite limit on what they can and can't include. My problem was (paraphrased) "I've hacked on "MYKERNEL" config file, read up on the traditional vs 'new way" kernel building/installation *BUT* ...next comes modules, _now what_?" and you've given me a great shot at understanding the next step, which is just as vital as those steps preceding it. Terrific stuff, tonight is reading|reading|and_more_reading. Much appreciated, Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Fri Jan 21 23:20:00 CET 2005 11:20PM up 1 day, 12:10, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:38:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5481316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:38:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AA443D1D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:38:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2]) j0LMc4IS026185; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:38:04 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0LMbvpu019992; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:37:57 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "'Paul Schmehl'" , "'PC GURU'" , Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:37:57 -0700 Message-ID: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.224 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) Subject: RE: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:38:10 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU > wrote: >>=20 >> I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your >> time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions >> if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. >>=20 > 1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions? Read the charter.=20 > This=20 > isn't a self-help group. >=20 > 2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the > beam=20 > from your own. (white trash? They? Most whites?) >=20 > 3) This is America. You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid > stuff. >=20 > 4) Apparently all the white chicks love you. So at least half of your > "enemies" are your friends. >=20 Well Said! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:40:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2907116A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:40:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omega.lacnic.net.uy (lacnic.net.uy [200.40.228.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AC443D1D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:40:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pablo@omega.lacnic.net.uy) Received: from omega.lacnic.net.uy (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by omega.lacnic.net.uy (8.12.11/8.12.5) with ESMTP id j0LNmgDq028651; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:48:42 -0300 Received: (from pablo@localhost) by omega.lacnic.net.uy (8.12.11/8.12.5/Submit) id j0LNmg8c028650; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:48:42 -0300 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:48:42 -0300 From: Pablo Allietti To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20050121234842.GD26068@omega.lacnic.net.uy> References: <20050121212739.0640543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: Freebsd 5.3 X-Organization: LACNIC X-URL: http://lacnic.net/ X-Lacnic-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Lacnic for more information (lacnic at lacnic.net) X-Lacnic-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: pablo@omega.lacnic.net.uy cc: PC GURU cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:40:50 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 04:07:24PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU > wrote: > > i think this is a "SPAM" dont worry paul just filter his address. > >I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time > >to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you > >think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. > > > 1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions? Read the charter. This > isn't a self-help group. > > 2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the beam > from your own. (white trash? They? Most whites?) > > 3) This is America. You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid > stuff. > > 4) Apparently all the white chicks love you. So at least half of your > "enemies" are your friends. > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > Adjunct Information Security Officer > The University of Texas at Dallas > AVIEN Founding Member > http://www.utdallas.edu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ---end quoted text--- -- Pablo Allietti LACNIC -------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:41:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625F116A4CF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:41:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ip193-230.digitalrealm.net [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40DF43D1D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:41:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@tvog.net) Received: from adsl-68-72-248-38.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net ([68.72.248.38] helo=tvog.net) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Cs7TJ-0007FG-FU; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:41:41 -0500 Message-ID: <41F18501.7010709@tvog.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:41:05 -0500 From: Frank Laszlo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Connolly References: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> In-Reply-To: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tvog.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: 'Paul Schmehl' cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: 'PC GURU' Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:41:11 -0000 Tom Connolly wrote: >Paul Schmehl wrote: > > >>--On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU >> wrote: >> >> >>>I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your >>>time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions >>>if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. >>> >>> >>> >>1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions? Read the charter. >>This >>isn't a self-help group. >> >>2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the >>beam >>from your own. (white trash? They? Most whites?) >> >>3) This is America. You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid >>stuff. >> >>4) Apparently all the white chicks love you. So at least half of your >>"enemies" are your friends. >> >> >> > > >Well Said! > > > I recived one of these to my personal address. looks like spam maybe. __________________________________________________ Frank Laszlo System Administrator The VonOstin Group Email: laszlof@tvog.net WWW: http://www.vonostingroup.com Mobile: 248-863-7584 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDEE16A4E6 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:40:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAF743D5C for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:40:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434166130; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:40:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97464-08; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:40:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DDD6121; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:40:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41F184FE.7050608@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:41:02 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Connolly References: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> In-Reply-To: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: 'Paul Schmehl' cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: 'PC GURU' Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:40:56 -0000 Tom Connolly wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > >>--On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU >> wrote: >> >>>I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your >>>time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions >>>if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. >>> >> >>1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions? Read the charter. >>This >>isn't a self-help group. >> >>2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the >>beam >>from your own. (white trash? They? Most whites?) >> >>3) This is America. You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid >>stuff. >> >>4) Apparently all the white chicks love you. So at least half of your >>"enemies" are your friends. >> > > > > Well Said! Why is there such a huge influx of idiots as of late? Then the next million dollar question, why? -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:45:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFAE16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sun13.bham.ac.uk (sun13.bham.ac.uk [147.188.128.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A0843D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from [147.188.128.127] (helo=bham.ac.uk) by sun13.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Cs7XO-0003Us-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:54 +0000 Received: from sun16.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.149] helo=sun16) by bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Cs7XO-00044s-C7 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:54 +0000 Received: from bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.127]) by sun16 with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Cs7XL-0002aj-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:51 +0000 Received: from sci-fs1.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.118.71]) by bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Cs7XK-00040Y-UX for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:50 +0000 Received: from SPECULUSHX1THE not authenticated [147.188.140.97] Novell NetWare; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:50 +0000 Message-ID: <01d801c5000a$f60123f0$0501a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> From: "cali" To: References: <20050121212739.0640543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-BHAM-CUBE-wlist: LOCAL sci-fs1.bham.ac.uk X-BHAM-CUBE-processed: yes X-MailScanner-From: calculus@softhome.net Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:56 -0000 This is the wierdest spam I have ever seen, maybe it is to solicit responses to harvest email addresses for a particular kind of targeted advertising. Or maybe a ludicrous attempt at trolling. cali > Hello questions@freebsd.org, > > Happy New Year to you. > > Well, I ended 2004 by being called a "nigger" several times by a white > terrorist in APPLEBEES on December 30. The reason I'm posting you is to > seek your advice as to what rights I have in a violent verbal assault, > and hate crime situation like this. What would you do if something this > devilish had happened to you? > > This is the second time this has happened to me in the same Applebees. The > first time was about five years ago when I overheard a professional person > using the "N" word to a white woman friend of his as they sat across from > me at the bar. > > She was telling him that she had found a new boyfriend and thought that > things were going to work out well for her. The fellow looked at her and > then said "I hope he's not a "nigger" I was astounded that he had said > something so lowlife in a full club with about 20 people sitting at the > bar and the rest of the tables nearby full as well. > > The bartender had been living with an African American male for over five > years at the time. She looked astounded, and turned to me as if she > couldn't believe her ears. I turned to the white people on each side of > me, and asked them if they were going to say something to the person. They > are always saying that they are not prejudiced. so this would have been > the perfect time for some of them to back up their words with action. > > They did nothing! They just looked at each other in that silly "HUH Head" > look that they utilize when they run into an idea that they had never > considered before on the subject of race. The manager did come out and ask > him to leave. He did so and to my knowledge he has never gone back. I have > seen the fellow in other clubs where the clientele is more receptive to > his modo di pensare. I did nothing official that time. This time I'm > trying to determine what the best way to proceed would be. Here are most > of the facts as to what occurred last Thursday, the 30th of December 2004. > > I went out to Applebees here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri around 2100. I > sat on the north end of the bar next to several young white women. One of > them was named "VanMater" from the Buick family here. I talked to them > about various subjects for about 30 minutes and bought them some > Frangelico. They had never tasted it so I thought I would let them sample > something different since they were kind enough to talk to me a 58 year > young African American. Most whites won't. > > Then they left and a friend of mine from Birmingham Alabama called me on > his cell phone. We talked for about fifteen minutes about the state of the > world and how savage, and inhumane so many Americans are in their thinking > when it comes to how they view others around the world. > > Out of the corner of my right eye, I notice the young blond white woman to > my right pushing a picture of a cute bi-racial child towards me. I picked > it up and looked at it. Then I complimented the female on having a little > girl that was so cute. After a few more minutes of talking to my friend, I > hung up and started talking to the young blonde white woman, her female > friend next to her, and her Canadian boyfriend to her right. > > The blonde's name was what it is. She said she was a hair stylist at a > salon here. I was telling them about how my cousin owned the Harlem > Globetrotter basketball team, and how there had been a couple of streets > named after my mothers family around here. I was basically giving them a > quick history on some black folks who were highly respected in this area. > > After about twenty minutes or so this 40ish white ball cap wearing, truck > driver looking white fellow across the bar asked me when we had graduated > from high school. I told him when I had graduated, and then N told him > when she graduated. The white supremacist then said "One of you is right, > and one of you is a fucking nigger" > > I picked up my cell phone and called the police as the Applebees manager > was not on the scene. I had no idea what that piece of white trash would > do next. After a few minutes Ed, the manager came over to the WS, and told > him that he had to leave the club. > > The fellow got up and slowly walked toward the door selling wolf tickets > all the way. The policeman arrived and he stood in the vestibule and > talked to the manager of Applebees. He never came over and asked me > anything; nor did he advise me of my rights in that situation. > > I'm one of the charter members of Applebees here. I have been going there > since about six months after they opened in 1991, and I've never had a > serious incident like this one > > So I went back to talking to the three people. Now of course we were > talking about the white supremacist and his actions. One white 20ish > female caught my eye, grinned and gave me the thumbs up sign. Apparently > she was happy that he was gone. > > After about 20 minutes, another young white female stopped behind me and > told me that the fellow was still in the parking lot in his truck. None of > the other white men there, except for the canadian fella I was talking to > had anything positive to say to me, and they said nothing to the WS who > started the whole incident. Why am I not surprised? > > So I called the police department again. I relayed the information to the > police and sat back once more. After a few minutes the officer arrived and > for the second time, the Applebees manager met him in the vestibule, and > they talked for a few minutes. Again, the policeman never came over to > talk to me at all. Now I really felt something odd was going on because > I'm the one doing the calling, but no one wants to talk to me. Is that > normal police procedure now across the USA? > > Nicole was very quiet while the white guy was calling me a nigger. She got > on her cell phone and called her biracial boyfriend and told him to come > by. The other couple got > Up and left after a half hour or so. Then this attractive light skinned > black man about 25 came in and Nicole snuggled up in his arms as he sat > down beside her. > > She told him what had happened and he began telling us what all behind he > would have kicked had it been done to him. He told me he was a criminal > and didn't play that sort of mess. The more we discussed it the more they > seemed to try to blame me for everything. I asked Nicole why she had > become such a chatterbox now that her black boyfriend had arrived. She > laughed and said that she felt safe now. They continued spewing out all > sort of nonsense about race that mentally confused Bi-racials, and > uninformed Caucasians tend to do. So after fifteen minutes of listening to > their ignorance, I told them I had to go. I wished them a happy New Year > and walked outside to the parking lot. > > I saw the truck was still there. So when I left I drove around town in a > random manner for about fifteen minutes to see if I was being followed. > When I felt that I wasn't I headed on home and called it a night. I > decided to stay home for New Years eve as I didn't want to run into any > more of these beer drinking, ball cap wearing rabid, mad dog, psychotic > folks like I had the night before. I didn't want to start the New Year > being a victim, or being in jail for harming some piece of trash. > > I haven't heard anything at all from Applebees yet. I'm not surprised > however. They didn't say or do anything when I called them about the first > incident. > > So there you have it. What should I do in this situation? What are my > rights? I've emailed Applebees twice, and spoke to them twice, but so far > they have done nothing. > > I think an apology is owed and reparations should be given. > > I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time > to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you > think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. > > Amicably Yours > > > If you have a interest in being helpful to me then, > email me at clb6969@charterinternet.com > > So mote it be > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:48:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC6A16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:48:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A651243D1D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2]) j0LMm3IS027969; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:48:03 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0LMm0pu025237; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:48:00 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "'Chris'" Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:48:00 -0700 Message-ID: <008c01c5000b$421c2c30$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.224 In-Reply-To: <41F184FE.7050608@makeworld.com> Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) cc: 'Paul Schmehl' cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: 'PC GURU' Subject: RE: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:48:06 -0000 >> >> Well Said! > > Why is there such a huge influx of idiots as of late? Then the next > million dollar question, why? They're really starting to come out in force as of late aren't they? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:48:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710E016A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:48:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438CE43D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:48:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC620388EEA; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:48:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:48:48 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Frank Laszlo , questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7F051265864F7BC912FD250F@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <41F18501.7010709@tvog.net> References: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41F18501.7010709@tvog.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:48:49 -0000 --On Friday, January 21, 2005 05:41:05 PM -0500 Frank Laszlo wrote: > > I recived one of these to my personal address. looks like spam maybe. > Oh great. So now we're getting spam that serves no purpose at all? Gotta love the internet.... Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:18:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08C316A4D3; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:18:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2D043D48; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:18:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out012.verizon.net ESMTP <20050121231814.BEKN10436.out012.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:18:14 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 444C62CEA7A; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:14:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:14:32 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501211514.36252.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:18:14 -0600 cc: gnome@FreeBSD.org cc: Drew Tomlinson Subject: Re: What Port Installs /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:18:15 -0000 On Friday 21 January 2005 02:03 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I'm attempting to upgrade the libiconv port from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2 but > keep getting this error: > > libtool15: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' > > A 'ls' of /usr/local/lib confirms this file doesn't exist. What port > should I install to get this file? > Seems like it is part of this > port, as I see several references to it in the build output. However > I don't see any error regarding it other than the one above. My > complete build output can be viewed here: > > http://drew.mykitchentable.net/libiconv.log > > Thanks for your help! > > Drew yours FreeBSD 4.11???: if [ ! -d /usr/local/bin ] ; then /bin/sh ../autoconf/mkinstalldirs /usr/local/bin ; fi case "freebsd4.11" in hpux*) cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -o iconv;; *) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la -o iconv;; esac mine FreeBSD 5.3: if [ ! -d /usr/local/bin ] ; then /bin/sh ../autoconf/mkinstalldirs /usr/local/bin ; fi case "freebsd5.3" in hpux*) cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -o iconv;; freebsd*) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a ../lib//libiconv.la -o iconv;; *) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la -o iconv;; esac Your running FreeBSD 4.11 it looks like, it installs fine on FreeBSD 5.3 Stable. I'm cc'ing th maintainer gnome@FreeBSD.org for you to let him know there may be a problem on 4.11 with the port. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:18:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EB216A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:18:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.rospa.ca [24.72.10.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5799D43D53 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:18:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id CC3F66AA; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:18:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:18:41 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050121231841.GL97850@seekingfire.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:18:43 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:20:58PM -0700, Nick Pavlica wrote: > To be sure that I was using up to date versions of each OS I performed > a cvsup and rebuilt the kernel (GENERIC) during the FBSD setup, and a > yum update on the Linux install. Most likely unrelated to your performance question, but you generally don't want to update only your kernel on FreeBSD. The userland and kernel should normally be in sync. -T -- If enlightenment is not where you are standing, where will you look? - Zen saying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:21:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7212816A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:21:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web81507.mail.yahoo.com (web81507.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E165143D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danamartha@sbcglobal.net) Message-ID: <20050121232119.82999.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.177.217.201] by web81507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:21:19 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:21:19 -0800 (PST) From: Dana / Lucas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: DVD burner questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:21:20 -0000 Im trying to figure out why my some of my burns skip randomly and some don't. Also, my Miramax videos don't give any sound on playback of the burned dvd. Do I have to slow my burning speed? If so, how? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:24:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A9F16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:24:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from newman.alt-network.com (wsip-68-110-223-100.ks.ok.cox.net [68.110.223.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2766D43D53 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:24:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from justin@alt-network.com) Received: from [192.168.0.20] ([192.168.0.20])j0LNO9a4049603; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:24:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from justin@alt-network.com) From: "Justin L. Boss" To: Peter Risdon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:24:11 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501210242.57141.justin@alt-network.com> <1106297711.1011.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> In-Reply-To: <1106297711.1011.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501211724.12088.justin@alt-network.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on newman.alt-network.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/533/Sat Oct 16 20:09:44 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on newman.alt-network.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 300GIG SATA drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:24:13 -0000 Sorry, yes 5.3R to be exact. I was also informed that this was covered in the stable list under the topic "Bad Desk". I look, and it pointed to Maxtor desk drives as being the problem. And yes I'm using a Maxtor disk. But it insinuated in the list that Maxtor large drives quality was bad and it was not a problem with FreeBSD OS. But I have installed Linux and NetBSD on the same drives without a hitch. I'm beginning to think it may be FreeBSD. Any insight would help. Help, Justin On Friday 21 January 2005 02:55 am, you wrote: > On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 02:42 -0600, Justin L. Boss wrote: > > Is anyone having problems with SATA drives? I keep getting DMA errors > > that lock up the system. > > Assuming you are using FreeBSD 5.x then yes, this is a known problem, > there has been some traffic about this issue on this list in recent > months. I filed a pr about a specific case of this a few weeks ago but > it doesn't seem to have progressed. > > I have to say I think it is a major problem. It's becoming increasingly > difficult to build FreeBSD machines with up to date commodity PC > motherboards and large storage drives. SATA drives above about 200GB > often seem to suffer from this bug under 5.x, so you need 4.x, which > doesn't work with all up-to-date motherboards. So what do you do? > > Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:34:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE2B16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:34:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE4543D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:34:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgrady@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so55781wri for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:34:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e3dq/YD4N8+IZ2eHTx9gVkk9WK15ZW9IbI4iRP6fW88RAfB2MTO0wq3FuPyhh/Su6LAl0VZlx1JmX8zS5NXIj1U9IxlpcQjQKXmq5ZZT8Vp1BkUl7pE2NMSFl/rG9Mi5jmfJXfgsqrTEZ8VwHOmIFz5KQ4y4KJjnsvWYRzPQ3V0= Received: by 10.54.28.64 with SMTP id b64mr180667wrb; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.49.14 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:34:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5fee5e30050121153451747114@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:34:01 -0600 From: luke To: freebsd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: slow ssh since upgrade from 5.3-release-p4 to p5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: luke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:34:05 -0000 i have an smp system and just upgraded from p4 to p5 of 5.3-release. since the upgrade, ssh seems to be hanging at pam authentication. i've messed around with /etc/pam.d/sshd and tried various configurations. i've put ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes in sshd_config instead of yes. i even installed openssh-portable from ports, and it has the same issues. output of sshd -d (it's OpenSSH_3.8.1p1) debug1: Bind to port 234 on 0.0.0.0. Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 234. debug1: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode. debug1: res_init() Connection from 66.142.109.139 port 1666 debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software version PuTTY-Release-0 debug1: no match: PuTTY-Release-0.56 debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 FreeBSD-20040419 debug1: permanently_set_uid: 22/22 debug1: list_hostkey_types: ssh-dss debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: client->server aes256-cbc hmac-sha1 none debug1: kex: server->client aes256-cbc hmac-sha1 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST_OLD received debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: KEX done then there is a long pause here debug1: userauth-request for user verbose service ssh-connection method none debug1: attempt 0 failures 0 debug1: PAM: initializing for "verbose" Failed none for verbose from 66.142.109.139 port 1666 ssh2 debug1: userauth-request for user verbose service ssh-connection method keyboard-interactive debug1: attempt 1 failures 1 debug1: keyboard-interactive devs debug1: auth2_challenge: user=verbose devs= debug1: kbdint_alloc: devices 'pam' debug1: auth2_challenge_start: trying authentication method 'pam' another long pause, then password prompt(i'm using putty v0.56) debug1: PAM: setting PAM_RHOST to "adsl-66-142-109-139.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net" Postponed keyboard-interactive for verbose from 66.142.109.139 port 1666 ssh2 another shorter pause debug1: PAM: num PAM env strings 0 Postponed keyboard-interactive/pam for verbose from 66.142.109.139 port 1666 ssh2 Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for verbose from 66.142.109.139 port 1666 ssh2 Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for verbose from 66.142.109.139 port 1666 ssh2 debug1: monitor_child_preauth: verbose has been authenticated by privileged process debug1: PAM: reinitializing credentials debug1: Entering interactive session for SSH2. debug1: server_init_dispatch_20 debug1: server_input_channel_open: ctype session rchan 256 win 16384 max 16384 debug1: input_session_request debug1: channel 0: new [server-session] debug1: session_new: init debug1: session_new: session 0 debug1: session_open: channel 0 debug1: session_open: session 0: link with channel 0 debug1: server_input_channel_open: confirm session debug1: server_input_channel_req: channel 0 request pty-req reply 1 debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 req pty-req debug1: Allocating pty. debug1: session_new: init debug1: session_new: session 0 debug1: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc /dev/ttyp1 debug1: server_input_channel_req: channel 0 request shell reply 1 debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 req shell debug1: PAM: setting PAM_TTY to "/dev/ttyp1" debug1: Setting controlling tty using TIOCSCTTY. thanks for any help From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:42:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA58C16A4CE; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E62643D39; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.177]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA5A10436; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37]) [66.133.131.177]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02588-02-57; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-45-225.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.45.225]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A0C100F3; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [165.107.42.204] (unknown [165.107.42.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0E13BF3BF; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:42:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41F1935C.4060207@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:42:20 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net> <200501211514.36252.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200501211514.36252.reso3w83@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net cc: gnome@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What Port Installs /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:32 -0000 On 1/21/2005 3:14 PM Michael C. Shultz wrote: >On Friday 21 January 2005 02:03 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > >>I'm attempting to upgrade the libiconv port from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2 but >>keep getting this error: >> >>libtool15: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' >> >>A 'ls' of /usr/local/lib confirms this file doesn't exist. What port >>should I install to get this file? >> >> > > > >>Seems like it is part of this >>port, as I see several references to it in the build output. However >>I don't see any error regarding it other than the one above. My >>complete build output can be viewed here: >> >>http://drew.mykitchentable.net/libiconv.log >> >>Thanks for your help! >> >>Drew >> >> >yours FreeBSD 4.11???: >if [ ! -d /usr/local/bin ] ; >then /bin/sh ../autoconf/mkinstalldirs /usr/local/bin ; fi >case "freebsd4.11" in hpux*) cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; >fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -o iconv;; >*) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n ''; >then /usr/local/bin; fi` >iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la -o iconv;; >esac > >mine FreeBSD 5.3: >if [ ! -d /usr/local/bin ] ; >then /bin/sh ../autoconf/mkinstalldirs /usr/local/bin ; fi >case "freebsd5.3" in hpux*) cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; >fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -o iconv;; >freebsd*) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n >''; then /usr/local/bin; fi` >iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a ../lib//libiconv.la -o iconv;; >*) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n ''; >then /usr/local/bin; fi` >iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la -o iconv;; >esac > > >Your running FreeBSD 4.11 it looks like, it installs fine on FreeBSD 5.3 >Stable. I'm cc'ing th maintainer gnome@FreeBSD.org for you to let him >know there may be a problem on 4.11 with the port. > >-Mike > > Thanks. I'm running 4.10. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:47:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E5116A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:47:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EDA43D55 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:47:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from daemon.foo.lan (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891DD96C93 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:17:11 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:17:04 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200501112100.10680.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <200501220015.57752.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <44651qsrc8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44651qsrc8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2761719.M8RlCuF0fc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501221017.10875.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Subject: Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3 - found the problem! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:47:15 -0000 --nextPart2761719.M8RlCuF0fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:32, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Ian Moore writes: > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:54, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > > Ian Moore writes: > > > > I've just realised I'm not running a name server at all on my 5.3 > > > > system. I have 4.9 installed on this computer too & I'd set up the > > > > caching server on it, I guess I forgot that step when I installed > > > > 5.3. > > > > I'll set it up & see that makes any difference. > > > > > > Make sure to switch to using domain names that aren't in use by other > > > people... > > > > > > [A common convention is to use ".lan" or ".local" as the top-level > > > domain if you are using non-public domain names.] > > > > Thanks, I hadn't thought of using a non-existant top level domain. I've > > changed the hostname to daemon.foo.lan and now localhost.foo.lan resolv= es > > to 127.0.0.1 as it should. > > Unfortunately, I still get the same response form ntpq: > > daemon:~ % sudo ntpq -p > > ntpq: write to localhost.foo.lan failed: Permission denied > > Even with my firewall disabled I get this response. > > What about "ntpq -pn"? No, I get the same response from that too. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart2761719.M8RlCuF0fc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB8ZR+fITqkXhImmIRAgYMAKCNfOGhb/34PGVJTvUCdBN5EAiM6QCdH+n/ BieyFmXjatLDprhD+X/vRZQ= =GVqp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2761719.M8RlCuF0fc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 23:48:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6FF16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:48:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E209643D48 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:48:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so56952wri for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:48:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=rR+qzw5XTSTJfyVsSOR/9wbVceNAMYy2Z6O32PkXbGahys9aJczWVOjCztMtcUjN3TZmiliqVsn3elU42QsmP+e+d+o+WgUHC5NOfc6w9Tnez3UI52ipmS1HuwysadPOv8tbTDzykggig5EY3DjTKWWpUfQ/fFETLOWiH5V9vc4= Received: by 10.54.49.20 with SMTP id w20mr469503wrw; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.57 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:48:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:48:51 +1300 From: Juha Saarinen To: "Colin J. Raven" In-Reply-To: <20050121102005.Q2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050121102005.Q2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: courier-imap install from ports *fails* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juha Saarinen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:48:52 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:24:56 +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > Good morning all, > > In attempting to install courier-imap 4.0.1,1 from ports it unexpectedly > failed. > > This is after portupgrade attempts from version 3.0.8,1 blew up, so > after several attempts I gave up and deinstalled it, thinking that > starting over from scratch might be a better idea. > > configure: error: authlib configuration error - /usr/local/sbin/courierlogger not found > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please report the problem to oliver@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach > the "/usr/ports/mail/courier-imap/work/courier-imap-4.0.1/config.log" > including > the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good > idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system > (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). > *** Error code 1 > > Clearly there are instructions there as to the next action to take, but > has anyone else experienced this *and* perhaps knows how to fix the > issue? (worth a try methinks) Courier and the related Courier-IMAP package underwent some major changes with the new revisions (see UPDATING). Portupgrading from the older version broke my installation. Deleting the older packages and installing the new ones, starting with courier-authlib, got things going again. -- Juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 00:08:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A22016A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EAC43D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:08:35 -0600 Message-ID: <41F1998B.1020406@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:08:43 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41F18501.7010709@tvog.net> <7F051265864F7BC912FD250F@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <7F051265864F7BC912FD250F@utd49554.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2005 00:08:35.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[8452DA30:01C50016] cc: Frank Laszlo cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:08:50 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, January 21, 2005 05:41:05 PM -0500 Frank Laszlo > wrote: > >> >> I recived one of these to my personal address. looks like spam maybe. >> > Oh great. So now we're getting spam that serves no purpose at all? > > Gotta love the internet.... It actually seems to have a purpose, and a pretty lowdown scummy one at that. Try to track this down by entering the subject line in the world's number one search engine..... It's kind of ingenious, I guess, but I am continually amazed by mankind's capacity for rapacity. KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 00:21:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A3316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:21:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746F443D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:21:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Cs92F-0005Pb-V9; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:21:52 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:21:57 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050121232119.82999.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050121232119.82999.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501211821.57285.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcc499c9912929df60ed00e0106dab5ece350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Dana / Lucas Subject: Re: DVD burner questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:21:52 -0000 On Friday 21 January 2005 05:21 pm, Dana / Lucas wrote: > Im trying to figure out why my some of my burns skip randomly and > some don't. Also, my Miramax videos don't give any sound on playback > of the burned dvd. Do I have to slow my burning speed? If so, how? If you're using growisofs from the command line, use the '-speed=N' option. See 'man growisofs'. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 01:11:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC7116A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:11:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mongers.org (miracle.mongers.org [193.162.142.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF1C543D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:11:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jlouis@mongers.org) Received: (qmail 6260 invoked by uid 1030); 22 Jan 2005 01:11:05 -0000 From: "Jesper Louis Andersen" Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:11:05 +0100 To: Nick Pavlica Message-ID: <20050122011104.GA28577@miracle.mongers.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:11:08 -0000 Quoting Nick Pavlica (linicks@gmail.com): [Performance tests] > Are there any good reasons for such a difference. Your thoughts are > appreciated. There is so little information, so anything we throw your way will be guesses. So I'll try to mention things one should be aware of when measuring performance and I/O. First of all, check what you are comparing. Does FFS and XFS have the same semantics? Is write-caching turned on? Is async-mounts being used, etc. The old analogy of comparing apples to oranges still hold true, sadly. Second, try to create a realistic workload instead of just counting what dd(1) can give you in raw read performance on the disk. The more true your test are to your real workload, the better a measurement do you get. Third, the last 5% doesn't matter. System administration is about more than just having the fastest operating system out there. Moore's law might (not) be dead, but it doesn't take many months to win in 5% in hardware. If you know linux well, then by all means use that, even if it is slowest. The rationale is that you know the system well and thus avoid stability problems. Fourth, stability. It is far more important to have a stable system with an average load than an unstable system with low load. Fifth, How much time are you spending on the benchmark? A weeks salary could be used much better if poured into the machine. But alas, that gives you no money. Sixth, be _dead_ _sure_ that I/O is the performance bottleneck. One NIC gone awry, and the bottleneck weren't where you expected it to be. I've seen this happen too many times. Seventh, locate the whole communication chain of your operating system and hardware. For Disk I/O on FreeBSD that would mean disks, disk-controllers, drivers, GEOM layer, UFS/FFS layer, VFS layer, ..., application. If data are queried over the network, then the whole network stack + additional drivers are touched too. One particular of these might bottleneck. Locating it might mean a performance gain, but it might be time-costly to do this. Eight, use intuition to find interesting spots. Then use system query tools to test the assertions the intuition made. Sometimes it is not the hardware that needs a good cranking with the screwdriver, but the software installation that could be told to behave better. Have fun compressing the most out of your hardware. -- jlouis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 01:14:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA5416A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:14:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mg1.works.net.au (mg1.works.net.au [203.22.251.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A943643D55 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:14:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markjose@coolcats.net.au) Received: from coolcats.ozdial.net.au (coolcats.ozdial.net.au [203.22.251.39]) by mg1.works.net.au (8.12.11/linuxconf) with ESMTP id j0M1E85r012106 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:14:08 +1100 Received: from mafxp (dialup-126.53.194.203.acc03-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au [203.194.53.126])j0M1E2w16745 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:14:02 +1100 From: "markjose" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:14:01 +1100 Message-ID: <001c01c5001f$a8fce7a0$7e35c2cb@mafxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2605 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-MG1-Works-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MG1-Works-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MG1-Works-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.285, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL 0.53, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 0.09) X-MailScanner-From: markjose@coolcats.net.au Subject: "ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:14:11 -0000 Greetings, I have just built a kernel (after a fresh install of 5.3 CD release), and have encountered this message: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad2s1a Setroutbyname failed ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp Root mount failed: 6 The reason it failed is because now the kernel detects the ata disk (master on the secondary) as ad0 rather than previously ad2 (eg using /stand/sysinstall). Why? Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 01:21:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB48616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:21:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E7D43D31 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:21:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.175.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61DF3D74AD for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:20:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F1AA4E.5020301@celeritystorm.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:20:14 +0000 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net> <200501211514.36252.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200501211514.36252.reso3w83@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What Port Installs /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:21:29 -0000 Hey, Try a pkg_which /path/to/your/file Hope it helps! Michael C. Shultz wrote: >On Friday 21 January 2005 02:03 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > >>I'm attempting to upgrade the libiconv port from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2 but >>keep getting this error: >> >>libtool15: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' >> >>A 'ls' of /usr/local/lib confirms this file doesn't exist. What port >>should I install to get this file? >> >> > > > >>Seems like it is part of this >>port, as I see several references to it in the build output. However >>I don't see any error regarding it other than the one above. My >>complete build output can be viewed here: >> >>http://drew.mykitchentable.net/libiconv.log >> >>Thanks for your help! >> >>Drew >> >> >yours FreeBSD 4.11???: >if [ ! -d /usr/local/bin ] ; >then /bin/sh ../autoconf/mkinstalldirs /usr/local/bin ; fi >case "freebsd4.11" in hpux*) cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; >fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -o iconv;; >*) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n ''; >then /usr/local/bin; fi` >iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la -o iconv;; >esac > >mine FreeBSD 5.3: >if [ ! -d /usr/local/bin ] ; >then /bin/sh ../autoconf/mkinstalldirs /usr/local/bin ; fi >case "freebsd5.3" in hpux*) cc `if test -n ''; then /usr/local/bin; >fi` iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -o iconv;; >freebsd*) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n >''; then /usr/local/bin; fi` >iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a ../lib//libiconv.la -o iconv;; >*) /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=link cc `if test -n ''; >then /usr/local/bin; fi` >iconv.o ../srclib/libicrt.a /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la -o iconv;; >esac > > >Your running FreeBSD 4.11 it looks like, it installs fine on FreeBSD 5.3 >Stable. I'm cc'ing th maintainer gnome@FreeBSD.org for you to let him >know there may be a problem on 4.11 with the port. > >-Mike > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 01:41:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186016A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:41:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5454443D2F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from [137.186.198.39] by priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP <20050122014119.TFXT17306.priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net@[137.186.198.39]> for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:41:19 -0700 Message-ID: <41F1AF7A.5030303@daltons.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:42:18 -0700 From: Aaron Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41F12A81.4050300@daltons.ca> <20050121164128.GA49680@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <41F1334B.30800@daltons.ca> <44mzv2r9sj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44mzv2r9sj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error installing dvipsk-tetex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:41:20 -0000 I am now trying to install print/teTeX. With some fiddling I have gotten it to almost install. Now I'm having a problem when it gets to the installation of print/dvipsk-tetex. Below is the error? Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks for your time! Aaron ===> teTeX-2.0.2_7 depends on executable: dvips - not found ===> Verifying install for dvips in /usr/ports/print/dvipsk-tetex ===> Building for dvipsk-tetex-5.92b_2 /usr/bin/sed -e s!%%PAPERSIZE%%!letter!g -e s!%%MKTEXLSR%%!/usr/local/bin/mktexlsr!g -e s!%%DVIPSDIR%%!/usr/local/{/usr/local/share/texmf,{/home/aaron/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf-var,!!/usr/local/share/texmf-local,!!/usr/local/share/texmf}}/dvips/config!g -e s!%%DVIPSVARDIR%%!/usr/local/{/usr/local/share/texmf,{/home/aaron/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf-var,!!/usr/local/share/texmf-local,!!/usr/local/share/texmf}}-var/dvips/config!g -e s!%%TEXCONFIG%%!/usr/local/bin/texconfig!g -e s!%%LOCALBASE%%!/usr/local!g < /usr/ports/print/dvipsk-tetex/files/pkg-install.in > /usr/ports/print/dvipsk-tetex/work/pkg-install.sh sed: 1: "s!%%DVIPSDIR%%!/usr/loc ...": bad flag in substitute command: '!' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/dvipsk-tetex. *** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 01:55:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FCF16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:55:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567BF43D39 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:55:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D1034511C1; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:55:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:55:34 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Drew Tomlinson Message-ID: <20050122015534.GA4656@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: What Port Installs /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:55:44 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 02:03:12PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I'm attempting to upgrade the libiconv port from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2 but keep= =20 > getting this error: >=20 > libtool15: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' >=20 > A 'ls' of /usr/local/lib confirms this file doesn't exist. What port=20 > should I install to get this file? Seems like it is part of this port,= =20 > as I see several references to it in the build output. However I don't= =20 > see any error regarding it other than the one above. My complete build= =20 > output can be viewed here: >=20 > http://drew.mykitchentable.net/libiconv.log I'd guess something is wrong with your libtool installation. Try reinstalling the libtool15 port. Kris --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8bKWWry0BWjoQKURAkEdAKC1Jyj5lMVoGLqWDWd2ely3n4FmsACgny+x sF49f80zKpqcykiW1XMe3Zk= =WsgB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 02:16:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0793B16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:16:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out005.verizon.net (out005pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6944543D58 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:16:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.251.221]) by out005.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050122021657.XLXI28362.out005.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:16:57 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE0C11800 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73837-04 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CF8271170F; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:16:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:16:56 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050122021656.GD17328@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41F18501.7010709@tvog.net> <7F051265864F7BC912FD250F@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <41F1998B.1020406@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F1998B.1020406@daleco.biz> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out005.verizon.net from [68.163.251.221] at Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:16:57 -0600 Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:16:59 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/21/05 06:08 PM, Kevin Kinsey sat at the `puter and typed: > Paul Schmehl wrote: >=20 > > --On Friday, January 21, 2005 05:41:05 PM -0500 Frank Laszlo=20 > > wrote: > > > >> > >> I recived one of these to my personal address. looks like spam maybe. > >> > > Oh great. So now we're getting spam that serves no purpose at all? > > > > Gotta love the internet.... >=20 >=20 > It actually seems to have a purpose, and a pretty lowdown scummy one > at that. Try to track this down by entering the subject line in the > world's number one search engine..... Oh my goodness. I'd have never thought of that. I'm astounded by the result - particularly the low number of hits. This is obviously a marketing ploy. > It's kind of ingenious, I guess, but I am continually amazed by > mankind's capacity for rapacity. I'm amazed too. Astounded. And to think I almost took the OP seriously. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Expert, n.: Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides. --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8beYr4Wi/oDI2aIRAg1IAJ4jjd9M/QKTi02J+J2rGXTqQAFgugCbBt1y LFdM1WqdJJ3j8CyDO+I8rBo= =o59A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 03:00:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E605416A4D2 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:00:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from newalpha.avalonworks.net (newalpha.avalonworks.net [216.58.97.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15ED43D5A for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:00:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hindrich@worldchat.com) Received: from Brantford-ppp3520509.sympatico.ca (Brantford-ppp3520509.sympatico.ca [206.172.134.78])j0M30ZQF019197 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:00:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hindrich@worldchat.com) From: Peterhin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:01:14 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501212201.14680.hindrich@worldchat.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/677/Fri Jan 21 12:50:45 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on newalpha.avalonworks.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:00:51 -0000 I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the "Handbook", also "FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer", they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? Peter "Peace is never more than one thought away" GNU/Linux Freedom http://libranet.com http://www.fsf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 03:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A11D16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:32:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A0C43D1F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:32:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F19085657; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:02:30 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:02:30 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Peterhin Message-ID: <20050122033230.GA85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200501212201.14680.hindrich@worldchat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501212201.14680.hindrich@worldchat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:32:35 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:01:14 -0500, Peterhin wrote: > I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. > > I have read the "Handbook", also "FreeBSD An open-source system for your > personal computer", they both suggest that I do a standard installation, > whereas in "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the > custom installation. > Any suggestions as to which way to go.? I recommend the custom installation. I also say why. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8clOIubykFB6QiMRAm4iAJsGTBaQiRTg+Usyo2TvIZeEg25lHgCfQtU4 QEB39IyUTcwIaEDNlfz0OzY= =kPY5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 03:50:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C7A16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:50:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6144A43D4C for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (utdvpn084058.utdallas.edu [129.110.84.58]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9AA389377; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:50:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:50:01 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <2147483647.1106344201@[192.168.2.101]> In-Reply-To: <41F1998B.1020406@daleco.biz> References: <008401c50009$db1aa7b0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41F18501.7010709@tvog.net> <7F051265864F7BC912FD250F@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <41F1998B.1020406@daleco.biz> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: Frank Laszlo cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:50:09 -0000 --On Friday, January 21, 2005 6:08 PM -0600 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > It actually seems to have a purpose, and a pretty lowdown scummy one at > that. Try to track this down by entering the subject line in the world's > number one search engine..... > > It's kind of ingenious, I guess, but I am continually amazed by mankind's > capacity for rapacity. > OK, now I'm going to be sick..... Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 04:24:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8093C16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51009.mail.yahoo.com (web51009.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00BAF43D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52754 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2005 04:24:10 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: cdrdao problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:24:11 -0000 Hi, this is a bit out of the blue, I used "mkxvcd" to generate/modify a mpeg file from ~900MB to less then 700MB and wanted to make a VCD out ot it. I then gnenerate toc file by running "vcdimager -t vcd11 -c xvcd.cue -b xvcd.bin test-KVCD1.mpg" and then to burn a VCD by: "cdrdao write --device 2,0,0 --eject --driver generic-mmc-raw --speed 24 xvcd.cue", but cdrdao replied: "ERROR: Expecting only one toc-file" but there is already just one toc file, what's wrong? ===== Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? ľn°O§KśOŞş @yahoo.com ¤¤¤ĺšq¤lślĽó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 04:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A7616A4CE; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:59:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5A743D2F; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:59:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.90] ([4.28.157.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j0M4wanB007488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) In-Reply-To: <20050122033230.GA85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200501212201.14680.hindrich@worldchat.com> <20050122033230.GA85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <459B7284-6C32-11D9-8611-000393681B06@lafn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:58:35 -0800 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: Peterhin cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:59:08 -0000 On Jan 21, 2005, at 19:32, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:01:14 -0500, Peterhin wrote: >> I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. >> >> I have read the "Handbook", also "FreeBSD An open-source system for >> your >> personal computer", they both suggest that I do a standard >> installation, >> whereas in "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to >> do the >> custom installation. >> Any suggestions as to which way to go.? > > I recommend the custom installation. I also say why. Well, I am looking at the 3rd Edition page 71 where it appears you recommend the custom and the novice installations. The only real comment about the custom installation is that it takes you back to the top menu after each step. I have installed may copies of versions 2,3,4, and not 5 and don't see what the advantage of that might be. The only reason that comes to mind is if you botch something you can go back and redo it. That doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me, but... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 04:59:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D924216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:59:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B1143D48 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:59:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-186-245.eastlink.ca [24.224.186.245]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8571299BF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:59:20 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 05B6C8F420; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:59:19 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022788F3EF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:59:19 -0400 (AST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:59:18 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050122005740.E910@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: sudo not honoring NOPASSWD: ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:59:23 -0000 I'm at a loss to what could be the problem .. I have 5 servers, 4 of which work exactly as expected but the 5th one still prompts for a passwd ... I've checked, and they all run the same version of sudo and their sudoers files are identical ... so I'm thinking it might be something I'm overlooking at the OS level... help? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 05:03:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854B716A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:03:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53906.mail.yahoo.com (web53906.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5ACD43D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:03:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 62453 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2005 05:03:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=izkxDHdiZzKMIHixp6xOUaD4t1/jKsf9qNTddTlq70+YeCKBD+L4st6acGG2AxYU2GSPWf1bFxaRlKxWgCKoz5IAOGsurOHeVLVYq8BjnCC7+DfpXcmxUT2W09YKWcnHp7gTPBBa6bnhVD8OLaRxTALzYy46sd+1IE6HbF2CT+M= ; Message-ID: <20050122050337.62451.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.18.53.121] by web53906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:03:37 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:03:37 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: hindrich@worldchat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:03:38 -0000 it was said: >I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than >a year. >I have read the "Handbook", also "FreeBSD An open-source >system for your personal computer", they both suggest that I >do a standard >installation, whereas in "The Complete >FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom >installation. >Any suggestions as to which way to go.? > >Peter > >"Peace is never more than one thought away" > >GNU/Linux >Freedom >http://libranet.com >http://www.fsf.org Hello, This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your use. BTW, having "GNU/Linux -> Freedom" in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? (You do know that *BSD isn't Linux, don't you?) HTH, stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 05:27:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE5316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:27:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53906.mail.yahoo.com (web53906.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5239843D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:27:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68121 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2005 05:27:51 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Kf5/8MgEri3q2jlkMGy8SWijLJOQ2xqx4jZH4xo5AL5OSu6BVexts9NpC7FdhVVk6ByJWveb/Q+KoBWcILhPrUo6DQSuYenY5CndNiqzPSWSRIFphdLYeOXmRLMtJyaI5nmh0cOT2SFPmk6E+UsCYLZalTan1OeIohxWFjqfaeo= ; Message-ID: <20050122052751.68119.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.18.53.121] by web53906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:27:51 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:27:51 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: hindrich@worldchat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:27:52 -0000 it was said: >I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than >a year. >I have read the "Handbook", also "FreeBSD An open-source >system for your personal computer", they both suggest that I >do a standard >installation, whereas in "The Complete >FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom >installation. >Any suggestions as to which way to go.? > >Peter > >"Peace is never more than one thought away" > >GNU/Linux >Freedom >http://libranet.com >http://www.fsf.org Hello, This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your use. BTW, having "GNU/Linux -> Freedom" in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? (You do know that *BSD isn't Linux, don't you?) HTH, stheg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 05:37:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C048916A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:37:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB4443D49 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:37:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0M5b8j16892 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:37:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:37:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050121212739.0640543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: RE: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:37:08 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of PC GURU > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:27 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees > > > So there you have it. What should I do in this situation? What > are my rights? I've emailed Applebees twice, and spoke to them > twice, but so far they have done nothing. > > I think an apology is owed and reparations should be given. > Sorry guy, you would have had to have been an employee if you wanted a share of that $40,000 settlement. (Here's the URL to prevent anyone else from wasting any more time on this) http://www.thetennesseetribune.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=30929& sID=16 Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 06:12:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B0216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:12:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F21143D1F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:12:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.176])D51E1191C14; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.36]) [66.133.131.176]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20728-06-86; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-45-225.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.45.225]) 5D6E1191A43; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3EF3BF3C3; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:12:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41F1EEE5.1080209@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:12:53 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net> <20050122015534.GA4656@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050122015534.GA4656@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: What Port Installs /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:12:58 -0000 On 1/21/2005 5:55 PM Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 02:03:12PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > >>I'm attempting to upgrade the libiconv port from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2 but keep >>getting this error: >> >>libtool15: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' >> >>A 'ls' of /usr/local/lib confirms this file doesn't exist. What port >>should I install to get this file? Seems like it is part of this port, >>as I see several references to it in the build output. However I don't >>see any error regarding it other than the one above. My complete build >>output can be viewed here: >> >>http://drew.mykitchentable.net/libiconv.log >> >> > >I'd guess something is wrong with your libtool installation. Try >reinstalling the libtool15 port. > >Kris > > I thought that too. Prior to posting, I had libtool13, 14, and 15 installed. I removed all of them and then installed 15 from ports. Yet the error persists. It is interesting that I could install libiconv from packages without error. But even after that, I still did not have /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la. Also after installing libiconv from a package, 'portupgrade -f libiconv' ends with the error I described above. Thanks, Drew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 06:13:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D52916A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:13:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53910.mail.yahoo.com (web53910.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C05D043D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:13:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 96497 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2005 06:13:55 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=MuvuWVMq272D8d9hg+kGqD0ox242mwOWt00ApRRX2mx87Jj961h/7EpUVtxLAGs1VZDs4CiKoE0a4ehVO1cjqHwuc9ETiDHpFcE2/nIM8lbzWgMtf9IsUH3oKF7gPdP/OFGeWLv6d5KZSqnajVZo/b6exytuZaeBS/bytORfGSI= ; Message-ID: <20050122061355.96495.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.18.53.121] by web53910.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:13:54 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:13:54 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: linicks@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:13:56 -0000 it was said: >However, after performing a number of I/O and Postgresql tests on >different equipment, the performance proved to be considerably faster >when using Fedora. Fedora with XFS was the clear performance winner >in every test, followed by Fedora with EXT3, then FreeBSD. I was >surprised to find such a dramatic difference between Fedora with XFS >and FreeBSD. In almost every test Fedora(XFS) was dramatically >faster performing the exact same operations on the same hardware. >Are there any good reasons for such a difference. Your thoughts are >appreciated. > >Thanks! >--Nick Pavlica Hello, Although your email has all the classic hallmarks of a troll, I will rise to the bait. You need to post your hardware and software configs for both OSs, along with your test methodology to get anything other than the email equivalent shrug of the shoulders. The software configs need to include your kernel conf, make.conf, dmesg, etc. and their Linux counterparts. In the test methodology, include the names of whatever benchmarking software, if any, that you used. Don't forget the stats that showed the claimed perfomance difference. Throw in anything else you think that one would need to reproduce your tests. Regards, stheg P.S. If the "name" in your addy is meant to be phonetically identical to the name "Linux", it isn't. Linus pronounces it "lee-nooks", where the oo sound is the same as in smooth, not foot (neutrally-accented American pronunciation). After living in the States for some time now, I know Americans say it the same way you apparently do, but as with most things these days, just because an American says it doesn't make it true. Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCB416A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:14:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94EF43D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:14:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0M6EDj17033; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:14:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "stheg olloydson" , Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:14:13 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050122052751.68119.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:14:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of stheg > olloydson > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 9:28 PM > To: hindrich@worldchat.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. > > > Hello, > > This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an > opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. > search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your > use. > BTW, having "GNU/Linux -> Freedom" in your sig file when posting to a > *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? > Probably not as much as a faux pas as posting the same message TWICE, stheg, (note message ID's) Message-ID: <20050122050337.62451.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050122052751.68119.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 06:19:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A56116A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:19:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3B643D39 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:19:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adrianpatino@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so213350rne for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:19:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OsPo7VfoCyHY3dL7XxCVy5MA2G71GTR5XKjSMGSpGtnSEuwHcSDdQSdr4lcAls8+VARtb7lVaUhTTDwEUS2zWWiQnOQJemimCZz0xFz1AHNbTzH4pLG63TH8K9yJEg1TZcjXpmEIoT7FsWQQw28BKBO900NVtsByRkG+ADfebqA= Received: by 10.38.11.67 with SMTP id 67mr320468rnk; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.209.17 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:19:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <889d6df05012122197831ced4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:19:45 -0600 From: Adrian Patino II To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mixer does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Patino II List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:19:46 -0000 i have both onboard sound and soundcard ########################################### pcm0@pci0:11:0: class=0x040100 card=0x80651102 chip=0x00021102 rev=0x0a hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Creative Labs' device = 'EMU10000 Sound Blaster Live! (Also Live! 5.1) - OEM from DELL - CT4780' class = multimedia subclass = audio none1@pci0:17:5: class=0x040100 card=0xa0021458 chip=0x30591106 rev=0x50 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT8233/33A/8235/8237 AC97 Enhanced Audio Controller' class = multimedia subclass = audio hw.snd.targetirqrate: 32 hw.snd.report_soft_formats: 1 hw.snd.verbose: 1 hw.snd.unit: 0 hw.snd.maxautovchans: 0 hw.snd.pcm0.buffersize: 4096 ########################################## I disabled onboard sound in the bios the sound is working but mixer controls have no effect on volume is mixer controlling onboard sound instead of soundcard? if so, how can i change that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 06:41:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3FE16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:41:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1E143D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:41:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0M6ffj17121; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:41:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bob Perry" , Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:41:41 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050120203707.GB302@sphinx.alpha.domain> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: RE: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:41:42 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bob Perry > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:37 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance > > > Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. > Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they > made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. > > At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks > in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, > thus far, > are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. > Hi Bob, I see a lot of people are telling you to install wireless but in my experienced opinion, you need to fix your wiring. Your never going to have stable service if you don't, even if you put the DSL modem next to the building MPOE (Median Point of Entry). Go wireless if you want to but get your inside wiring fixed. What we do around here is have people with this kind of problem sign up for Line-Backer insurance from the phone company, wait a few days, then call a trouble ticket into the phone company. (Line Backer is a Qwest product, other phone companies have similar programs) This covers all your inside wiring and the phone techs will come out and fix it properly and you won't get hit with a $150 charge for inside wiring repair. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 07:17:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E69E16A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:17:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D6843D39 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:16:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C69CF8567E; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:46:54 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:46:54 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20050122071654.GD85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050122052751.68119.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: hindrich@worldchat.com cc: stheg olloydson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:17:00 -0000 --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:14:13 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > On Friday, January 21, 2005 9:28 PM, stheg olloydson wrote: >> >> This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an >> opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. >> search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your >> use. >> BTW, having "GNU/Linux -> Freedom" in your sig file when posting to a >> *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? > > Probably not as much as a faux pas as posting the same message TWICE, > stheg, > > (note message ID's) > > Message-ID: <20050122050337.62451.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> > Message-ID: <20050122052751.68119.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> None of the above help improve the standard of the channel. A few weeks back we discussed closing down the FreeBSD-newbies mailing list, because just about everything on it is a technical questions. One of the biggest objections was "but the people on -questions are so unfriendly". Can we try to change that? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8f3mIubykFB6QiMRAs1CAJ9QEXprwlCJx33oajGjYTWvLkgRBgCfYbb1 5AyTUNfjcnJeaOBbXfshHmA= =B981 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 07:20:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03F516A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:20:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB6343D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:20:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 319D185679; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:50:03 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:50:03 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20050122072003.GE85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200501212201.14680.hindrich@worldchat.com> <20050122033230.GA85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> <459B7284-6C32-11D9-8611-000393681B06@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <459B7284-6C32-11D9-8611-000393681B06@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Peterhin cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:20:06 -0000 --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Long/short syndrome. On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 20:58:35 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2005, at 19:32, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:01:14 -0500, Peterhin wrote: >>> I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. >>> >>> I have read the "Handbook", also "FreeBSD An open-source system >>> for your personal computer", they both suggest that I do a >>> standard installation, whereas in "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg >>> Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any >>> suggestions as to which way to go.? >> >> I recommend the custom installation. I also say why. > > Well, I am looking at the 3rd Edition page 71 where it appears you > recommend the custom and the novice installations. The only real > comment about the custom installation is that it takes you back to the > top menu after each step. I have installed may copies of versions > 2,3,4, and not 5 and don't see what the advantage of that might be. > The only reason that comes to mind is if you botch something you can go > back and redo it. That doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me, > but... It's not a big deal, but it helps. You're less likely to need to go back when you're proficient, but it doesn't harm to have the facility. It doesn't cost you anything. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8f6jIubykFB6QiMRAgjIAJ9U0c5vm+Q+z5yCJn+TS62usyODAwCgj+GX oJgxRi8CIzyd37U2UgnDR0k= =BSzc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 07:42:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F15416A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:42:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B709843D45 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:42:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0M7gWj17291; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Stijn Hoop" , "Sandy Rutherford" Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050121090216.GC31548@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Hardware RAID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:42:47 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Stijn Hoop [mailto:stijn@win.tue.nl] > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:02 AM > To: Sandy Rutherford; tedm@toybox.placo.com > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Hardware RAID > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 05:22:36AM -0800, Sandy Rutherford wrote: > > >>>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:57:21 -0800, > > >>>>> "Ted Mittelstaedt" said: > > > > > This did teach me a lesson that I kind of knew already but > > > didn't think too much about. That is, a software array > is no substitute > > > for a hardware array. ... > > I respectfully disagree here; it is a substitute in some respects, > especially if you factor in cost. > I think you didn't read my post, I explicitly stated vinum is a great thing if what your wanting to do is use a bunch of cheap disks and cheap controller cards to either get a giant partition, or to stripe them together and get faster access. In other words cost is the only justification for selecting software raid over hardware raid. You haven't really made the case that vinum is better than a hardware array card on any other issue except cost. > My vinum volumes allowed me to survive for a long time without backups > (bad idea, don't do that), and for the past years have allowed me to > survive without having to restore my backups. This through about 5 > failing ATA disks and multiple upgrades of the storage space. > > I'd say it was worth it for me, including reliability. > > If you need speed, or have the cash, etc, you can go for hardware > RAID. But even there I've seen and heard horror stories of > incompatible disks, spontaneously lost configurations or even worse, > silent data corruption due to a bad disk. > I didn't say these things couldn't happen on a hardware array. I said that when these things do happen, it's worse for a software array than a hardware array, and that they happen a lot more on a software array. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 07:43:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FE016A4CE; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:43:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A7343D31; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:43:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.90] ([4.28.157.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j0M7hQnB010361 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:43:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) In-Reply-To: <20050122072003.GE85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200501212201.14680.hindrich@worldchat.com> <20050122033230.GA85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> <459B7284-6C32-11D9-8611-000393681B06@lafn.org> <20050122072003.GE85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4C1E6775-6C49-11D9-8611-000393681B06@lafn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:43:24 -0800 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/629/Tue Dec 14 11:01:57 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: Peterhin cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:43:28 -0000 On Jan 21, 2005, at 23:20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > > Long/short syndrome. > > On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 20:58:35 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: >> >> On Jan 21, 2005, at 19:32, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> >>> On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:01:14 -0500, Peterhin wrote: >>>> I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. >>>> >>>> I have read the "Handbook", also "FreeBSD An open-source system >>>> for your personal computer", they both suggest that I do a >>>> standard installation, whereas in "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg >>>> Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any >>>> suggestions as to which way to go.? >>> >>> I recommend the custom installation. I also say why. >> >> Well, I am looking at the 3rd Edition page 71 where it appears you >> recommend the custom and the novice installations. The only real >> comment about the custom installation is that it takes you back to the >> top menu after each step. I have installed may copies of versions >> 2,3,4, and not 5 and don't see what the advantage of that might be. >> The only reason that comes to mind is if you botch something you can >> go >> back and redo it. That doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me, >> but... > > It's not a big deal, but it helps. You're less likely to need to go > back when you're proficient, but it doesn't harm to have the facility. > It doesn't cost you anything. That makes sense. Glad to know there isn't something I missed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 07:52:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D36616A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:52:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6EF43D55 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:51:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 49994 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 23:51:50 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 23:51:50 -0800 Message-ID: <41F20629.8080307@taborandtashell.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:52:09 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey References: <20050122052751.68119.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> <20050122071654.GD85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20050122071654.GD85706@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hindrich@worldchat.com cc: stheg olloydson cc: Ted Mittelstaedt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:52:00 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:14:13 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>On Friday, January 21, 2005 9:28 PM, stheg olloydson wrote: >>>BTW, having "GNU/Linux -> Freedom" in your sig file when posting to a >>>*BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? >> >>Probably not as much as a faux pas as posting the same message TWICE, >>stheg, > None of the above help improve the standard of the channel. > > A few weeks back we discussed closing down the FreeBSD-newbies mailing > list, because just about everything on it is a technical questions. > One of the biggest objections was "but the people on -questions are so > unfriendly". > > Can we try to change that? Indeed. My first post to this email list (since I have been back from a 3 year hiatus) was a question about the infamous portsdb -uU/portupgrade -uU segfault. My reward for coming back to this list was an angry email from Don Novello (spam@black-star.net). Also, if you are going to tell people that they posted duplicate messages, do you need to send that to the whole email list? If you send it to the whole list, you are wasting just as much bandwidth as the guy who accidentally sent his message twice, except you are doing it on purpose. -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 07:59:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0014716A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:59:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90BC43D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:59:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j0M7wvJw011613; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:59:07 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "Justin L. Boss" In-Reply-To: <200501211724.12088.justin@alt-network.com> References: <200501210242.57141.justin@alt-network.com> <1106297711.1011.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <200501211724.12088.justin@alt-network.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:58:56 +0000 Message-Id: <1106380736.1011.164.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 300GIG SATA drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:59:06 -0000 On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 17:24 -0600, Justin L. Boss wrote: [top post moved down] > On Friday 21 January 2005 02:55 am, you wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 02:42 -0600, Justin L. Boss wrote: > > > Is anyone having problems with SATA drives? I keep getting DMA errors > > > that lock up the system. > > > > Assuming you are using FreeBSD 5.x then yes, this is a known problem, > > there has been some traffic about this issue on this list in recent > > months. I filed a pr about a specific case of this a few weeks ago but > > it doesn't seem to have progressed. [from top] > Sorry, yes 5.3R to be exact. I was also informed that this was covered in the > stable list under the topic "Bad Desk". I look, and it pointed to Maxtor desk > drives as being the problem. And yes I'm using a Maxtor disk. But it > insinuated in the list that Maxtor large drives quality was bad and it was > not a problem with FreeBSD OS. But I have installed Linux and NetBSD on the > same drives without a hitch. I'm beginning to think it may be FreeBSD. Any > insight would help. FreeBSD 4.x also works fine with these drives. I've installed 5.3, experienced DMA errors, reinstalled exactly the same hardware with 4.10 and had error-free operation. The only OS that fails like this seems to be FreeBSD 5.x. These Maxtor drives may well be flaky, but they are very widely available and frequently installed in commodity machines. As it stands, you can't install 5.x on any such machine. Since hardware support in the 4.x branch is lagging, this means you can't use FreeBSD at all on a lot of computers. Not good. I'm amazed there hasn't been more noise about this. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 08:09:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D6216A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:09:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D4E43D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:09:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 50034 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2005 00:09:38 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 00:09:38 -0800 Message-ID: <41F20A55.8030803@taborandtashell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:09:57 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: saravanan ganapathy References: <20050121152741.3171.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050121152741.3171.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port update problem - newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:09:47 -0000 saravanan ganapathy wrote: > --- Erik Norgaard wrote: > Since I am very new to freebsd, I am not sure abt the > ports collections which I don't want. Since you are new, I will give you some (ports) advice: 1. Always update all of your ports so that you can use portupgrade. 2. Use portupgrade. 3. Read /usr/ports/UPDATING if you want things to go smoothly. 4. If you forget step 3, and step 3 happens to have some bad news in it (usually pertaining to gettext), 'portupgrade -rRf [some port]' can work wonders. 5. Don't forget to do a 'portsdb -uU' after cvsup'ing your ports. My quick start to portupgrade: http://tabor.taborandtashell.net/serversetup/ports.html Where I learned about portupgrade: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 08:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA32F16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F5943D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:46:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3/d) with ESMTP id j0M8jwo8029042; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:45:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:45:58 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200501220845.j0M8jwOl029041@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org Subject: Re: : Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:46:00 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:10:55 +0000 Daniel Bye wrote the most significant part of his message, to which I can only say heartily, "Hear!! 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 09:00:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C42016A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:00:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005D843D45 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:00:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id C5FBB13B91A; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:00:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A056B13B8F1; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:00:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0M90qbP041792; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:00:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:00:52 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20050122090052.GG35557@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , Ted Mittelstaedt , Sandy Rutherford , FreeBSD Questions References: <20050121090216.GC31548@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: cc: Sandy Rutherford cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Hardware RAID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:00:55 -0000 --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:42:32PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Stijn Hoop said: > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" said: > > > This did teach me a lesson that I kind of knew already but > > > didn't think too much about. That is, a software array > > > is no substitute > > > for a hardware array. ... > > > > I respectfully disagree here; it is a substitute in some respects, > > especially if you factor in cost. >=20 > I think you didn't read my post, Well I tried to... > I explicitly stated vinum is a great > thing if what your wanting to do is use a bunch of cheap disks and > cheap controller cards to either get a giant partition, or to > stripe them together and get faster access. Yes, but that's what I was refuting in part; I've used it for reliability purposes to great effect, as I stated. So IMHO it's also a great thing if you need reliability for a lower price. > In other words cost is the only justification for selecting software > raid over hardware raid. You haven't really made the case that vinum > is better than a hardware array card on any other issue except cost. It was not my intent to describe vinum as being 'better' than the hardware RAID. As I read it, you dismissed software RAID for reliability purposes. I was stating that it can be used for that purpose. > > My vinum volumes allowed me to survive for a long time without backups > > (bad idea, don't do that), and for the past years have allowed me to > > survive without having to restore my backups. This through about 5 > > failing ATA disks and multiple upgrades of the storage space. > > > > I'd say it was worth it for me, including reliability. > > > > If you need speed, or have the cash, etc, you can go for hardware > > RAID. But even there I've seen and heard horror stories of > > incompatible disks, spontaneously lost configurations or even worse, > > silent data corruption due to a bad disk. >=20 > I didn't say these things couldn't happen on a hardware array. I > said that when these things do happen, it's worse for a software > array than a hardware array, and that they happen a lot more on a > software array. In my experience, when bad things happen, it was the same for the software RAID arrays as for the hardware RAID arrays. Regular vinum does have a few warts (notably, online rebuilding is b0rked) but other than that it's the same procedure: remove bad drive, add new drive, rebuild. I agree that I've seen more failures with software RAID than hardware RAID. And certainly cost is a factor in that. It still comes down to cost vs downtime. The only thing I 'objected' to in your post was the fact that you dismissed vinum as being useful in reliability situations. I hope I made that clearer this time. --Stijn --=20 "Well," Brahma said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is no wiser, but an intelligent man requires only two thousand five hundred." -- The Mahabharata. --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8hZEY3r/tLQmfWcRAmRGAJ9rJnO7sSndB7O7LHIb2T4DABEnNACeNFj4 Px9Bnh20z4YxQcUPDvH3sZs= =ouNw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 09:23:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E5916A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:23:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B277A43D31 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:23:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0M9Ndj17534; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:23:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <41F20629.8080307@taborandtashell.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:23:44 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tabor Kelly [mailto:tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net] > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:52 PM > To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; hindrich@worldchat.com; stheg olloydson; > freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. > > > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:14:13 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > Can we try to change that? > > Indeed. My first post to this email list (since I have been > back from a > 3 year hiatus) was a question about the infamous portsdb > -uU/portupgrade > -uU segfault. My reward for coming back to this list was an > angry email > from Don Novello (spam@black-star.net). > > Also, if you are going to tell people that they posted duplicate > messages, do you need to send that to the whole email list? The message to stheg was people that throw rocks should not live in glass houses, a message he quite obviously understood since he has wisely refrained from responding. The message to the rest of the list was that it isn't nice to criticize people for baloney items, and that if you do so, others are going to come after you. I have found that sort of response to be more effective in the long run to use a ruler to snap the fingers than to make pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to play nice. And I don't mind being called an a-hole for doing it. As a matter of fact, the more people that criticize me for criticizing stheg, the more of a nasty a-hole I look like, which greatly enhances my effectiveness for making people like stheg who start the rock-throwing to quake in their shoes and be more afraid of starting the rock throwing. So, thanks for the cirticism! Perhaps you and some others could give me some more so as to make me an even more effective deterrent to sthenglike behavior :-) Although of course you must not construe this statement as a statement that I wish to interfere with your rights to make as many pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to be nice as you feel necessary, should you feel the need to make pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to be nice, that is. Sorry to have to be so blunt publically, I'm not trying to embarass you, but clearly since you didn't get this, others may have not also. Thus I feel this message also should go for public distribution. Is that enough justification for ccing questions? By the way, could we possibly have more metadiscussion please? You know, I heard this last Christmas there was a sick kid that all he wanted for Christmas was for everyone to send him a Christmas card.... At least one good thing is we can tell old TM8675309@aol that we now have unimpeachable proof that FreeBSD must not have nay problems anymore since there's so few problems people are posting about now that we are now posting about posting about posting!!! ;-) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 09:48:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEAA16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:48:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from frost.void.ru (ns.void.ru [82.179.198.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A8A43D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:48:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krok@void.ru) Received: from [10.10.10.24] (lan-gw.plus.ru [82.179.194.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by frost.void.ru (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id j0M9lwgv039537 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:47:58 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from krok@void.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: frost.void.ru: Host lan-gw.plus.ru [82.179.194.18] claimed to be [10.10.10.24] Message-ID: <41F2214E.3030203@void.ru> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:47:58 +0300 From: Krok Organization: Void User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041229 Thunderbird/1.0 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <41F0CA80.9050606@void.ru> <20050121151429.GA33972@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20050121151429.GA33972@dan.emsphone.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/640/Thu Dec 23 21:48:27 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on frost.void.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on frost.void.ru cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mylex AcceleRAID 352 utilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: krok@void.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:48:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 No, gam - is binary file... Dan Nelson wrote: | In the last episode (Jan 21), Krok said: | |>Hello. |> |>Does anybody know, how can I administrate Mylex AcceleRAID 352 from |>FreeBSD 5.2.1 ? |> |>I've tried software from lsilogic - linux-gam (sam), but it's fails with |>following error : |> |># ./gam |>sh: wine: command not found |> |>even with wine installed | | | Chances are "gam" is a shell script that launches wine. Take a look at | it and hardcode the path. | - -- With best regards, Krok -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8iFOsXuomovtlAARAq8GAJ9WHnFDvzByVsAXS+dqHx5nbiwzfACeLHlr 2ud+l7tz2B6SrzHOeMO5X14= =8XZj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 10:13:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3CA16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:13:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC1243D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:13:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0MADUj18090; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:13:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Stijn Hoop" Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:13:29 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050122090052.GG35557@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: Sandy Rutherford cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Hardware RAID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:13:34 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Stijn Hoop [mailto:stijn@win.tue.nl] > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 1:01 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Sandy Rutherford; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Hardware RAID > > > > I explicitly stated vinum is a great > > thing if what your wanting to do is use a bunch of cheap disks and > > cheap controller cards to either get a giant partition, or to > > stripe them together and get faster access. > > Yes, but that's what I was refuting in part; I've used it for > reliability purposes to great effect, as I stated. So IMHO it's also a > great thing if you need reliability for a lower price. > Well that may be so but RAID reliability is kind of like this: if there's 10 people running it and 9 of them have no problems and one of them does, then be very afraid! You might be that 10th person. The desirable situation with RAID reliability is to have all 10 people with no problems, and a series of vague rumors that someone heard that a friend of a friend might of had a problem, then when you bother chasing it down you find the person was smoking pipeweed. Another way of saying it is that my kernel crashdump file of a blown-up vinum install that blew my array - which is online for anyone to download if they so choose as I post this - is worth 500 of your testimonals about how reliable vinum is. > > It was not my intent to describe vinum as being 'better' than the > hardware RAID. As I read it, you dismissed software RAID for > reliability purposes. I do. From a structural standpoint a lot more things can go wrong with it. > I was stating that it can be used for that > purpose. > My crashdump file says raid isn't a reliable means of getting out of having to backup your data. > > I didn't say these things couldn't happen on a hardware array. I > > said that when these things do happen, it's worse for a software > > array than a hardware array, and that they happen a lot more on a > > software array. > > In my experience, when bad things happen, it was the same for the > software RAID arrays as for the hardware RAID arrays. > How many hardware arrays vs software arrays do you deal with? Over the last decade I think I've directly admined about 20-30 different makes and models of hardware array cards in different servers. I've lost about 3 disks in those. Admittedly not a lot. But so far I've never had one that lost a disk where replacing the disk didn't recover the array. Oh sure, some of them you had to do some really stupid things like take the server down completely for half the day to do it. But they all came back. During this time I've admined exactly 3 servers on software arrays. One was a news server using ccd which ran for years. The other are 2 vinum servers one of which is going strong, the other blew up due to a bad SCSI cable which wrote garbage on 2 drives making the array unrecoverable. In my experience if the reliabilty was equal, none of the software arrays should have given trouble and one or two of the hardware ones should have blown. Now granted in my vinum case the scsi cable is at fault. But, the log clearly shows vinum trying a write to one disk, getting a parity error, trying a write to another, getting another parity error, then the server freezing. The problem with vinum in this instance wasn't the initial parity errors and freezing. In fact, THAT was exactly what should have happend - shut the works down before you write garbage over the entire disk. The problem was that after a very simple error like that only a few blocks of data on the disks would have been bad so the vinum manager should have been able to recover the array to the point that it could be mounted again, so that fsck could have ripped out a handful of files and got the disk clean. Could this same have happend with a hardware array card? Probably. But I would be betting that the recovery routines in any hardware raid could have got the array to the point that a higher level tool like fsck could have got at least some data off it. And in any case, regardless of whether using software or hardware arrays, you should be backing up. I didn't with my software array and data was lost (fortunately not my data, and I don't know if the people who had data on it were backing their data up, they were supposed to, but I don't trust anyone on that) So I was stupid. Don't you or anyone else be stupid - learn from my mistake. > Regular vinum does have a few warts (notably, online rebuilding is > b0rked) but other than that it's the same procedure: remove bad drive, > add new drive, rebuild. > > I agree that I've seen more failures with software RAID than hardware > RAID. And certainly cost is a factor in that. It still comes down to > cost vs downtime. > What? I don't think I understand what your saying with that statement. RAID when used for reliability is because you cannot be backing up continuously - for example you have a database server that is receiving writes throughout the day, you raid it because you only backup once a day and if you lose a disk your going to lose that days transactions. This isn't a cost-downtime issue this is a do you want to lose your data or not issue. RAID of any kind isn't a substitute for a nightly backup. My mistake was in treating it as such. But even if I was going to do that, at the very least I would have had a better chance at some reliability with a hardware card. > The only thing I 'objected' to in your post was the fact that you > dismissed vinum as being useful in reliability situations. Compared to hardware raid, it isn't useful. raid is like backup - it's not enough just to be able to commit the data to what you are running to provide the reliability - you have to be able to get at least some of the data back if something goes wrong. With the vinum development, I think the assumption made was that a failure situation is always going to involve ONE drive. I think there was no assumption that a minor failure might happen that affected multiple drives that needed to be recovered from. Admittedly that is a statistically lower scenario than the one drive failure scenario, but obviously in retrospect, this assumption reduces reliability. I suppose things might have been different if it had been developed on ESDI drives, har har. But in any case, why is this so important? Even you already said that running without backups was stupid. vinum does a lot of other things that I consider a lot more useful anyhow. After all how many times do you see a bad disk anyway? Maybe once or twice during a servers lifetime? yet disk pack speed is an issue every second of the servers life. vinum can make slow disks run faster when you stripe them together, that alone is far more valuable than reliability. If your disks aren't getting a lot of writes every minute then your data reliability needs can likely be handled with tape during the nightly backup. But a tapedrive won't make disks run faster nor will it allow you to create giant partitions. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 10:39:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B40516A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:39:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC57243D45 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:39:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0MAd7le030115; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:39:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0MAcmGA051863; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:38:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0MAchir051858; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:38:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:38:42 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Tom Connolly Message-ID: <20050122103842.GA51825@thought.org> References: <41F184FE.7050608@makeworld.com> <008c01c5000b$421c2c30$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008c01c5000b$421c2c30$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: 'Paul Schmehl' cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: 'PC GURU' Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:39:16 -0000 On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:48:00PM -0700, Tom Connolly wrote: > >> > >> Well Said! > > > > Why is there such a huge influx of idiots as of late? Then the next > > million dollar question, why? > > They're really starting to come out in force as of late aren't they? > this is only my best swag, obviously, but consider the political situation... globally! more idiots/mm**2 than i've seen in many a moon. run! hide in your bomb shelters! (*mumble*) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 11:27:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A17A16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:27:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDA743D39 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:27:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin.gish@planet.nl) Received: from ZGISH (ip3e833f72.speed.planet.nl [62.131.63.114]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IAP006A0UH53F@smtp16.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:27:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:27:05 +0100 From: Kiffin Gish To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6bD6nuYcLRCu1hMk5sQqBg)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 00000000DA18B7C9E0C09641B844D919507EA016041D3E00 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Cannot connect to printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:27:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_6bD6nuYcLRCu1hMk5sQqBg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have read the manual carefully, looked in the forums and tried everything, but for the life of me I just cannot get my printer to work under FreeBSD. Actually my setup is nothing complicated or so you would think. I have an HP Deskjet 720C connected to my parallel printer port. It workes just fine under Windows so I know that the hardware, cables etc. are fine. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands --Boundary_(ID_6bD6nuYcLRCu1hMk5sQqBg)-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 11:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62C416A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:36:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1E843D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:36:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j0MBaXsF021838 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:36:33 GMT Message-ID: <41F23BCF.40901@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:41:03 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050113) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 6) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk Subject: uscanner problem with HP Scanjet 3400C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:36:47 -0000 Hi, I am trying to get my HP ScanJet 3400C scanner to work with FreeBSD 5.3. Whenever I plug it into the usb port on my laptop I get in dmesg: uscanner0: Hewlett Packard ScanJet 3400cse, rev 1.00/0.00, addr 2 uscanner0: setting config no failed device_attach: uscanner0 attach returned 6 uhub0: port 1, set config at addr 2 failed uhub0: device problem, disabling port 1 Naturally after that sane can't find it. This is a device that is fully supported now with Sane and one that uscanner claims to support. I am happy to do any testing required to get this to work. This problem seems to have been around for a while now and I have found a few unanswered threads about it on google. Thanks for your help. Chris Hodgins # uname -a FreeBSD paranoia 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Fri Dec 3 18:15:16 GMT 2004 root@paranoia:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/paranoia i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 12:31:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B9A16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:31:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978E143D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:31:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j0MCVOsF023560 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:31:25 GMT Message-ID: <41F248AB.2060609@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:35:55 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050113) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41F23BCF.40901@cis.strath.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <41F23BCF.40901@cis.strath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 6) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk Subject: Re: uscanner problem with HP Scanjet 3400C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:31:36 -0000 Chris Hodgins wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get my HP ScanJet 3400C scanner to work with FreeBSD 5.3. > Whenever I plug it into the usb port on my laptop I get in dmesg: > > uscanner0: Hewlett Packard ScanJet 3400cse, rev 1.00/0.00, addr 2 > uscanner0: setting config no failed > device_attach: uscanner0 attach returned 6 > uhub0: port 1, set config at addr 2 failed > uhub0: device problem, disabling port 1 > > Naturally after that sane can't find it. This is a device that is fully > supported now with Sane and one that uscanner claims to support. I am > happy to do any testing required to get this to work. > > This problem seems to have been around for a while now and I have found > a few unanswered threads about it on google. > > Thanks for your help. > Chris Hodgins > > # uname -a > FreeBSD paranoia 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Fri Dec 3 18:15:16 > GMT 2004 root@paranoia:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/paranoia i386 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I just recompiled my kernel to include uscanner support and USB_DEBUG. chris@paranoia:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf$ diff -u paranoia paranoia_usb_debug --- paranoia Sat Oct 30 18:33:02 2004 +++ paranoia_usb_debug Sat Jan 22 12:08:02 2005 @@ -108,3 +108,6 @@ device ukbd # Keyboard device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse +device uscanner + +options USB_DEBUG I was expecting a lot more output in dmesg about my problem but only one extra line appeared: uscanner0: Hewlett Packard ScanJet 3400cse, rev 1.00/0.00, addr 2 uscanner0: setting config no failed device_attach: uscanner0 attach returned 6 uhub_explore: usb_new_device failed, error=STALLED uhub0: device problem, disabling port 2 Have I done something wrong in getting the USB_DEBUG option into my kernel? Should I just of ran this instead? : # make -DUSB_DEBUG -KERNCONF=paranoia buildkernel Or should I add it to make.conf somewhere? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 12:35:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55E316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:35:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622A843D49 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:35:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arzuki@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so231568rne for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:35:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uno46IXC6G/G0LHgPY22Mq6dKBPF7GcBW42shcPlbM65FH+x4XK9hKyr3KVAgvLbvOckjPwdwFwgKxx4ATUnSXUBOG539j935ElDXtJjrWWYm38th1V0OX7lSxhfr8hxEgakhtEeFa085rPa1y1ynf3HsvgBjc7lgpo52e+Lpt8= Received: by 10.38.79.44 with SMTP id c44mr29724rnb; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:35:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.66.19 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:35:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <23d28efb05012204357affe2b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:35:19 +0000 From: Stephen Harrison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: hicolor-icon-theme X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Stephen Harrison List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:35:20 -0000 Hi all, Conpletley new to BSD and trying to build a box and install firefox but I keep getting a stop - hicolor-icon-theme Anyone able to offer any help Stephen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 05:02:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BDC16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:02:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54407.mail.yahoo.com (web54407.mail.yahoo.com [68.142.225.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 778C243D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vctw@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19857 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2005 05:02:38 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:02:39 -0000 Hi, all I have 2 certificates which created 2 years ago for ipsec connection. It works ok until now. The self signed CA is about to expire. Here comes questions: 1. If certificate expire, will racoon working ok as usual? 2. I tried to generate new certificates for those hosts, but new certificates won't work with ipsec. I forget the detail to create existing certificates, is there any special attribute or openssl configuration needed for ipsec? Thanks, Vincent Chen ----------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo!Š_źŻłyŤŹşëĆF łĚˇsŞşłyŤŹşëĆFĂąŚWŔÉĄAĹýŤHĽóżW¨ă­Ó¤HŚâąmĄI http://tw.avatar.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 14:39:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043E716A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:39:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC71243D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:39:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.175.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E138A3D74AE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:38:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F2656B.1090100@celeritystorm.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:38:35 +0000 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Permissions being reset on a portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:39:46 -0000 Hey, Everytime I upgrade a port, some custom permissions such as /usr/local/www/ and /usr/local/sbin go back to their defaults, which is very annoying. I have to keep checking these directories permissions are my custom ones. How do I avoid newly installed ports from overwriting my custom permissions ? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 14:47:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CBA16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:47:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337A943D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:47:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9A0CE289C9; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:47:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 4746828FA4; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:24:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479E161BB; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:24:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0MCNtMB002425; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:23:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:23:55 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Kiffin Gish In-Reply-To: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> Message-ID: <20050122130433.F2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot connect to printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:47:37 -0000 On Jan 22 at 12:27, Kiffin Gish launched this into the bitstream: > I have read the manual carefully, looked in the forums and tried everything, > but for the life of me I just cannot get my printer to work under FreeBSD. > > Actually my setup is nothing complicated or so you would think. I have an HP > Deskjet 720C connected to my parallel printer port. It workes just fine > under Windows so I know that the hardware, cables etc. are fine. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Well, I'm a newbie myself, but... I think some more details might be helpful: Are you sharing (or intending to share) your printers amongst Windows clients? If so, Samba is necessary, as is swat. (uncomment the swat line in inetd.conf) also you may (or may not since apprently this is a hot issue) may wish to use Cups. You could also manage much of this process from within Webmin if you have it installed - it's a great tool, I wouldn't be without it. I don't say webmin is a substitute for the command line, but a terrific adjunct to it. /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin takes your right to it. Getting samba up and running is fairly trivial if you do it all (or mostly) from webmin, also webmin has a swat interface!! Concerning the specific printer model, well I just don't know. You would have to do some reading on the CUPS help page. If you do want to use cups, cupsd has to be running. At that point you can play with some cups settings on the web based admin page (see below). I suggest starting with webmin first and enable stuff from there onwards in stages. Localhost URL's for various www-based admin interfaces: Webmin (unless you configure it differently) defaults to: http://localhost:10000 or, if you have SSL up and running at https://localhost:10000 Swat ([S]amba [W]eb [A]dministration [T]ool) - once enabled - is available at:http://localhost:901 CUPS (Common Unix Printing System) is available at: http://localhost:631 Ports you may care to install: Webmin: /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin Samba: /usr/ports/net/samba3 These are some suggestions only, and obviously predicated on the assumption you want to enable printing via Samba/CUPS. Should you wish to approach the matter from a Unix-only perspective, YMMV. Good Luck! Regards & HTH, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Sat Jan 22 13:21:00 CET 2005 1:21PM up 2 days, 2:11, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 15:02:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7519816A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:02:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5317B43D49 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:02:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1])j0MF2uPn071197 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7C4C56155; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:29:20 +0000 From: markzero To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050122142920.GA40606@logik.ath.cx> References: <200501210242.57141.justin@alt-network.com> <1106297711.1011.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <200501211724.12088.justin@alt-network.com> <1106380736.1011.164.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1106380736.1011.164.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p3 i386 LOGIK004 X-GPG-Key: http://darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt X-Fingerprint: B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 1F366F1A Subject: Re: 300GIG SATA drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:02:59 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > These Maxtor drives may well be flaky, but they are very widely > available and frequently installed in commodity machines.=20 Maxtor drives are flaky? Oh dear. How flaky? Mine is starting to get a bit noisy. Mark --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQfJjP6faOQ/e/53RAQKJwBAAxS7Z4lhfQAZFwiQyKDOUKONf+MngmHU5 Sszdh8QKdAjUCY7s5M2cwoztqjxNtyJq05Iezr9/ku/7Vf4CIX0msMbCO2uMw3HO 5nbUwlhFesPyo9FksZlm6WB71+NiFYqMVpOtPKjV4s61sj3i0E+TMrjC14rfrnKv f/roiiohcBJeZqt13j1sH3DfudQRKCxtNI6UzBc2bjSCvBLGn7s8vzQA9sae8c6j pWzfeJUENCjEyZStFmjo1no9Noqmyhaek/WblXFX/xEhFt/Z/OqQFUJlocz37YSE WBuq9RyQWMeXkiVy+ZDY1ZUczzY3EL8elGrR2VKov0z41Zh5VzSvqC6nnpsmofR9 tgirK7tOVXtobm3jue8Dljs6ZIdIdOpZY9vt/b5/b4yaO3LDbzqI9A6s44iAadPd ez/uvbdkuuZ0lO+Bcb8rgY+AaftvsPp2uPReA9IfdZC1BoluPdEjMb9ggqlQ9Vxm BLI1lMgLwFLiNvgL5B29ds24H3MmeOElq0rdcQ4X71NdwocYE1HhHcrE/CRV092w KutSiDgDD5cCaz6GfSqFIpv80rY4r1dsHDmFe5+Z1pBl/eGbFnB7skVyE2EmFEAj ISh5GjamOMw3am2SrMwyvuz/Psh2cKTFOr57PDAdPzheOuKLFVMOpyl5aZ2vW0mE z49HoQT0p9g= =USYp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 15:05:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2BE16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:05:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web30902.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30902.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.155]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B2FC43D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:05:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcd_advisory@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16082 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2005 15:05:40 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=V7HPvnzBOIs4U94efPXJdTv4FVQ/fFJeWTXuBM2dwRVRiZ58N25LC8PCMsgXtRsZelI/nYP/TabVZ9ZVvbXrPBJGkdbqJv07IxHiluczJUS2O1KBWeXJsARnBu5kQOZCRVvxKWZVfJ1yvc7vjGOsTElpu6MtJ1Svy8vdvbeR0DA= ; Message-ID: <20050122150540.16080.qmail@web30902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.248.172.15] by web30902.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:05:40 PST Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:05:40 -0800 (PST) From: Mervin McDougall To: me@hexren.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-598947734-1106406340=:14573" cc: freebsd questions Subject: Fwd: Re: Re[8]: Connection via proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:05:41 -0000 --0-598947734-1106406340=:14573 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline I seems that your network is not properbly configured. Have you verified that the interface you wish to use is up and has a valid IP adress. Is the proxy in "your" subnet or do you need to use a gateway to reach it ? Hexren maybe consider posting your replies under the original message as that will make it so much easier to read the full message ;) _______________________________________________________ I have verfied that the interface is up and running ... but not sre if I connect via a subnet or a gateway. Total noob to this so I am not sure how I can verify. The only thing I got in my dorm is an RJ45 socket outlet for connecting to the net. the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the gateway is 146.226.11.1 Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-598947734-1106406340=:14573 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from [66.248.172.15] by web30902.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:33:01 PST Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:33:01 -0800 (PST) From: Mervin McDougall Subject: Re: Re[8]: Connection via proxy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <10610800031.20050120180020@x3k6a2.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 981 sorry for taking so long, the my classes had me a bit exhausted netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire localhost localhost UH lo0 fe80::%lo0 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#3 UHL lo0 ff01:: localhost U lo0 ff02::%lo0 localhost UC lo0 ifconfig sis0:flags=8802 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:0f:20:c7:24:47 media: Ethernet autoselect (100 baseTX < full-dupelx>) status active plip0:flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0:flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6:: prefixlen 128; inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --0-598947734-1106406340=:14573-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 15:39:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330DB16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:39:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp15.wxs.nl (smtp15.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFBB43D49 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin.gish@planet.nl) Received: from XGISH (ip3e833f72.speed.planet.nl [62.131.63.114]) 2004))freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:39:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:40:30 +0100 From: Kiffin Gish To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-id: <000e01c50098$b42f60c0$9700000a@XGISH> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> <20050122130433.F2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot connect to printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:39:57 -0000 Like I said, this is just my laptop connected to a printer via the parallel port. Nothing to do with Windows, Samba nor a web server. I'll be happy enough if I can get the basics up and running. -------------------------------------------- Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Kiffin Gish" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 13:23 Subject: Re: Cannot connect to printer... > On Jan 22 at 12:27, Kiffin Gish launched this into the bitstream: > > > I have read the manual carefully, looked in the forums and tried everything, > > but for the life of me I just cannot get my printer to work under FreeBSD. > > > > Actually my setup is nothing complicated or so you would think. I have an HP > > Deskjet 720C connected to my parallel printer port. It workes just fine > > under Windows so I know that the hardware, cables etc. are fine. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Well, I'm a newbie myself, but... > I think some more details might be helpful: > Are you sharing (or intending to share) your printers amongst Windows > clients? If so, Samba is necessary, as is swat. (uncomment the swat line > in inetd.conf) also you may (or may not since apprently this is a hot > issue) may wish to use Cups. > You could also manage much of this process from within Webmin if you > have it installed - it's a great tool, I wouldn't be without it. I don't > say webmin is a substitute for the command line, but a terrific adjunct > to it. /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin takes your right to it. Getting samba > up and running is fairly trivial if you do it all (or mostly) from > webmin, also webmin has a swat interface!! > Concerning the specific printer model, well I just don't know. You would > have to do some reading on the CUPS help page. > > If you do want to use cups, cupsd has to be running. > At that point you can play with some cups > settings on the web based admin page (see below). I suggest starting > with webmin first and enable stuff from there onwards in stages. > > Localhost URL's for various www-based admin interfaces: > > Webmin (unless you configure it differently) defaults to: > http://localhost:10000 > or, if you have SSL up and running at > https://localhost:10000 > > Swat ([S]amba [W]eb [A]dministration [T]ool) - once enabled - is > available at:http://localhost:901 > > CUPS (Common Unix Printing System) is available at: > http://localhost:631 > > Ports you may care to install: > Webmin: /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin > Samba: /usr/ports/net/samba3 > > These are some suggestions only, and obviously predicated on the > assumption you want to enable printing via Samba/CUPS. Should you wish > to approach the matter from a Unix-only perspective, YMMV. > > Good Luck! > > Regards & HTH, > -Colin > -- > Colin J. Raven > FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One > Sat Jan 22 13:21:00 CET 2005 > 1:21PM up 2 days, 2:11, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 15:59:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A61F16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:59:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79D0C43D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:59:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.107?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 15:59:12 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Kiffin Gish In-Reply-To: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> References: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1106409551.2508.249.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:59:11 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot connect to printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:59:14 -0000 On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 06:27, Kiffin Gish wrote: > I have read the manual carefully, looked in the forums and tried everything, > but for the life of me I just cannot get my printer to work under FreeBSD. > > Actually my setup is nothing complicated or so you would think. I have an HP > Deskjet 720C connected to my parallel printer port. It workes just fine > under Windows so I know that the hardware, cables etc. are fine. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? I have an HP 710C, which is very similar, and was intended as a Windows-only printer. A small team reverse-engineered the protocol, and wrote "pnm2ppa", which will do the necessary conversion. It is available in the ports/packages collection, and works quite well. It is slow, and a better recommendation is to buy a more normal printer if the money is available. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 16:38:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E80216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:38:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00CA43D4C for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 3F47C2841E; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:38:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 917F928419; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:38:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911CA62A6; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:38:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0MGcHOs071110; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:38:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:38:16 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Kiffin Gish In-Reply-To: <000e01c50098$b42f60c0$9700000a@XGISH> Message-ID: <20050122173514.R2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> <20050122130433.F2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <000e01c50098$b42f60c0$9700000a@XGISH> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Cannot connect to printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:38:24 -0000 On Jan 22 at 16:40, Kiffin Gish responded: > > >> On Jan 22 at 12:27, Kiffin Gish launched this into the bitstream: >> >>> I have read the manual carefully, looked in the forums and tried > everything, >>> but for the life of me I just cannot get my printer to work under > FreeBSD. >>> >>> Actually my setup is nothing complicated or so you would think. I have > an HP >>> Deskjet 720C connected to my parallel printer port. It workes just fine >>> under Windows so I know that the hardware, cables etc. are fine. >>> >>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Well, I'm a newbie myself, but... >> I think some more details might be helpful: >> Are you sharing (or intending to share) your printers amongst Windows >> clients? If so, Samba is necessary, as is swat. (uncomment the swat line >> in inetd.conf) also you may (or may not since apprently this is a hot >> issue) may wish to use Cups. >> You could also manage much of this process from within Webmin if you >> have it installed - it's a great tool, I wouldn't be without it. I don't >> say webmin is a substitute for the command line, but a terrific adjunct >> to it. /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin takes your right to it. Getting samba >> up and running is fairly trivial if you do it all (or mostly) from >> webmin, also webmin has a swat interface!! >> Concerning the specific printer model, well I just don't know. You would >> have to do some reading on the CUPS help page. >> >> If you do want to use cups, cupsd has to be running. >> At that point you can play with some cups >> settings on the web based admin page (see below). I suggest starting >> with webmin first and enable stuff from there onwards in stages. >> >> Localhost URL's for various www-based admin interfaces: >> >> Webmin (unless you configure it differently) defaults to: >> http://localhost:10000 >> or, if you have SSL up and running at >> https://localhost:10000 >> >> Swat ([S]amba [W]eb [A]dministration [T]ool) - once enabled - is >> available at:http://localhost:901 >> >> CUPS (Common Unix Printing System) is available at: >> http://localhost:631 >> >> Ports you may care to install: >> Webmin: /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin >> Samba: /usr/ports/net/samba3 >> >> These are some suggestions only, and obviously predicated on the >> assumption you want to enable printing via Samba/CUPS. Should you wish >> to approach the matter from a Unix-only perspective, YMMV. > > Like I said, this is just my laptop connected to a printer via the parallel > port. > > Nothing to do with Windows, Samba nor a web server. > > I'll be happy enough if I can get the basics up and running. Please don't top post. I adjusted it so that the archives will reflect the generally accepted form Unfortunately I gotta recuse myself at this point. I don't know how to do what it is you seek. That said though if anyone *does* know, I'll be "lurking 'n learning" :-) -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 16:44:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D900E16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:44:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D7243D31 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:44:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005012216441001200g668be>; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:44:18 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.16] (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.16]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B677460C6; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:44:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41F282E1.2000904@trini0.org> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:44:17 -0500 From: Gerard Samuel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050122) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <41F136B9.20604@trini0.org> <41F13CFA.9050205@daleco.biz> <41F1400D.4040204@trini0.org> In-Reply-To: <41F1400D.4040204@trini0.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Logging to custom file via syslog [was]: [Repost] php log to own syslog file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:44:20 -0000 > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> Gerard Samuel wrote: >> >>> Im trying to figure out how to setup FreeBSD 5.3 to log >>> php events to its own log file via syslog. >>> In /etc/syslog.conf, I added -> >>> # php logs >>> !httpd >>> *.* /var/log/php.log >>> >>> I created a empty file for the log -> >>> gladiator# touch /var/log/php.log >>> gladiator# ls -l /var/log/php* >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 20 16:37 /var/log/php.log >>> >>> Then I HUPped syslogd -> >>> gladiator# ps aux | grep syslogd >>> root 277 0.0 0.2 1316 908 ?? Is 4:14PM 0:00.01 >>> /usr/sbin/syslogd -s >>> gladiator# kill -HUP 277 >>> >>> In my php script, Im using -> >>> define_syslog_variables(); >>> openlog('TESTING', LOG_NDELAY, LOG_USER); >>> syslog(LOG_INFO, $message); >>> closelog(); >>> >>> But nothing is being logged to the file. >>> Am I doing something wrong on the FreeBSD side of things?? >>> >>> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> PHP as an Apache module? IANAE, but wouldn't >> you have to change log settings in httpd.conf? > > > I dont think so. These errors, that I want to log, are initiated by > the php function syslog() (look at the example above). > These messages are supposed to go to the syslogd daemon, not to > httpd's log file. > In the example above, if I change the priority from "LOG_INFO" to > "LOG_WARNING", > the error messages go to /var/log/messages. > I just need it to start going to its own file. > The ultimate goal, is that I want to have a cluster of webservers, > logging to a central server. I think this is a FreeBSD problem. Here is what I have. 1. I removed my initial modification of /etc/syslog.conf, and added -> user.=info /var/log/php.log According to syslog.conf man page, that should mean, any syslog events that come is as LOG_USER, and only LOG_INFO, should be appended to /var/log/php.log 2. I HUPped syslogd. 3. Im using logger to try to add a message to the log file like -> gladiator# logger -s -p user.info test gsam: test But unfortunately, the message "test" doesn't appear in /var/log/php.log OR /var/log/messages. I currently have the file /var/log/php.log chmodded to 777. Im including my syslog.conf file. Can anyone tell me, as to why, Im unable to log these tests? Thanks /etc/syslog.conf ---- # $FreeBSD: src/etc/syslog.conf,v 1.26 2003/04/23 13:08:31 des Exp $ # # Spaces ARE valid field separators in this file. However, # other *nix-like systems still insist on using tabs as field # separators. If you are sharing this file between systems, you # may want to use only tabs as field separators here. # Consult the syslog.conf(5) manpage. *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages security.* /var/log/security auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log mail.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs ftp.info /var/log/xferlog cron.* /var/log/cron *.=debug /var/log/debug.log *.emerg * # uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log #console.info /var/log/console.log # uncomment this to enable logging of all log messages to /var/log/all.log # touch /var/log/all.log and chmod it to mode 600 before it will work #*.* /var/log/all.log # uncomment this to enable logging to a remote loghost named loghost #*.* @loghost # uncomment these if you're running inn # news.crit /var/log/news/news.crit # news.err /var/log/news/news.err # news.notice /var/log/news/news.notice !startslip *.* /var/log/slip.log !ppp *.* /var/log/ppp.log user.=info /var/log/php.log From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 17:23:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE1716A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gromit.dlib.vt.edu (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.49.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195DD43D39 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (pool-151-199-113-125.roa.east.verizon.net [151.199.113.125]) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0MHNbfB000697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:23:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (localhost.Chelsea-Ct.Org [127.0.0.1]) by zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0MHNVFj030160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:23:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: (from paul@localhost) by zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0MHNUhA030158; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:23:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org: paul set sender to paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu using -f From: Paul Mather To: Adrian Patino II In-Reply-To: <20050122120113.244B716A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050122120113.244B716A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:23:29 -0500 Message-Id: <1106414610.632.13.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mixer does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:23:39 -0000 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:19:45 -0600, Adrian Patino II wrote: > i have both onboard sound and soundcard > > ########################################### > pcm0@pci0:11:0: class=0x040100 card=0x80651102 chip=0x00021102 > rev=0x0a hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Creative Labs' > device = 'EMU10000 Sound Blaster Live! (Also Live! 5.1) - OEM > from DELL - CT4780' > class = multimedia > subclass = audio > none1@pci0:17:5: class=0x040100 card=0xa0021458 chip=0x30591106 > rev=0x50 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' > device = 'VT8233/33A/8235/8237 AC97 Enhanced Audio Controller' > class = multimedia > subclass = audio > > > hw.snd.targetirqrate: 32 > hw.snd.report_soft_formats: 1 > hw.snd.verbose: 1 > hw.snd.unit: 0 > hw.snd.maxautovchans: 0 > hw.snd.pcm0.buffersize: 4096 > ########################################## > I disabled onboard sound in the bios > the sound is working but > mixer controls have no effect on volume > > is mixer controlling onboard sound instead of soundcard? > if so, how can i change that? I have the same sound card as you ("EMU10000 Sound Blaster Live! (Also Live! 5.1) - OEM from DELL - CT4780") and very recently had the same kind of experience: the sound was working, but the mixer had no effect on the volume. In my case, the solution was woefully simple: I had my headphones (which I use for speakers) plugged into the wrong output jack. Moving them from the black 3.5 mm jack to the green one "solved" my problem. When I looked carefully at the jacks on the card, I discovered the black one designated "2" and the green designated as "1." Mixer lists the following devices: vol, pcm, speaker, line, mic, cd, rec, ogain, line1, phin, phout, and video. None of them has any apparent effect on the volume of the black 3.5 mm jack, which kind of begs the question as to whether it is possible to control the volume of that particular output jack from FreeBSD at all. So, if you are using the black output jack, I suggest you switch to the green one. :-) Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 17:31:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE3616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:31:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E989C43D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:31:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005012217313601400hkup2e>; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:31:36 +0000 Message-ID: <41F28DE2.4050205@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:31:14 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050121) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Harrison References: <23d28efb05012204357affe2b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <23d28efb05012204357affe2b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hicolor-icon-theme X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:31:37 -0000 Stephen Harrison wrote: > Hi all, > > Conpletley new to BSD and trying to build a box and install firefox > but I keep getting a stop - hicolor-icon-theme > > Anyone able to offer any help > > Stephen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I had this error until I cvsup'd everything. Then the builds went fine. Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 17:40:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF0716A4CF; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:40:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skippyii.compar.com (ns1.compar.com [216.208.38.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F05443D49; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:40:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM000039c69a66.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.82.185])j0MHlr9B099369; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:47:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <008201c500a9$21e388c0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Drew Tomlinson" , "Kris Kennaway" , References: <41F17C20.6090808@mykitchentable.net><20050122015534.GA4656@xor.obsecurity.org> <41F1EEE5.1080209@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:38:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: What Port Installs /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:40:28 -0000 > On 1/21/2005 5:55 PM Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 02:03:12PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > > >>I'm attempting to upgrade the libiconv port from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2 but keep > >>getting this error: > >> > >>libtool15: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libiconv.la' > >> > >>A 'ls' of /usr/local/lib confirms this file doesn't exist. What port > >>should I install to get this file? Seems like it is part of this port, > >>as I see several references to it in the build output. However I don't > >>see any error regarding it other than the one above. My complete build > >>output can be viewed here: > >> > >>http://drew.mykitchentable.net/libiconv.log > > > >I'd guess something is wrong with your libtool installation. Try > >reinstalling the libtool15 port. > > > I thought that too. Prior to posting, I had libtool13, 14, and 15 > installed. I removed all of them and then installed 15 from ports. Yet > the error persists. It is interesting that I could install libiconv > from packages without error. But even after that, I still did not have > /usr/local/lib/libiconv.la. Also after installing libiconv from a > package, 'portupgrade -f libiconv' ends with the error I described above. At one time, it was -ports policy to not install .la files, although I can't see any reference to that in the current porters-handbook. If that is still true, I would have to say that libiconv is in error by installing such a file (see the patches included in converters/libiconv/files -- the file is definitely installed). Not sure why it doesn't get installed in your case and breaks your subsequent upgrade, however. -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 17:47:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D206616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:47:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9316A43D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:47:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko@freebsd.org) Received: from movens.plus.com ([80.229.231.20] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CsPdy-0004ik-EH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:05:54 +0000 Message-ID: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:46:32 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20050113) X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0503-2, 21/01/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Daily run output message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:47:43 -0000 I see this in the daily run output on a 4.10-R box: Removing stale entries from sendmail host status cache: purgestat: no mapping in /etc/mail/mailer.conf What is the mapping that is missing? The machine is running postfix, not sendmail BTW. TIA Regards, Mark --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0503-2, 21/01/2005 Tested on: 22/01/2005 17:46:33 avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 17:56:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71F516A4CE; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:56:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A11043D2F; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:56:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31055429F; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:58:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26786-08; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:58:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E07B4265; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:58:29 +0100 (CET) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: Mark Ovens , FreeBSD Questions Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:58:29 +0100 Message-Id: <20050122175801.M3450@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> References: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.50 20050106 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: Daily run output message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:56:54 -0000 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:46:32 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote > I see this in the daily run output on a 4.10-R box: > > Removing stale entries from sendmail host status cache: > purgestat: no mapping in /etc/mail/mailer.conf > > What is the mapping that is missing? The machine is running postfix, > not sendmail BTW. Mine looks like this, and I'm also running Postfix. # # Execute the Postfix sendmail program, named /usr/local/sbin/sendmail # sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail send-mail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail mailq /usr/local/sbin/sendmail newaliases /usr/local/sbin/sendmail Perhaps you're missing something? Jorn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 18:08:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C863D16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C3943D2F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko@freebsd.org) Received: from movens.plus.com ([80.229.231.20] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CsPgn-0008AL-Hb; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:08:49 +0000 Message-ID: <41F2966C.2090408@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:07:40 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20050113) X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jorn Argelo References: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> <20050122175801.M3450@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050122175801.M3450@wcborstel.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0503-2, 21/01/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Daily run output message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:08:50 -0000 On 22/01/2005 17:58 Jorn Argelo stood on a soap-box and preached to the unwashed masses: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:46:32 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote >> I see this in the daily run output on a 4.10-R box: >> >> Removing stale entries from sendmail host status cache: >> purgestat: no mapping in /etc/mail/mailer.conf >> >> What is the mapping that is missing? The machine is running postfix, >> not sendmail BTW. > > Mine looks like this, and I'm also running Postfix. > > # > # Execute the Postfix sendmail program, named /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > # > sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > send-mail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > mailq /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > newaliases /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > Perhaps you're missing something? > No, same as yours. Thanks for the suggestion though. I take it that you don't see the same message? Mark --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0503-2, 21/01/2005 Tested on: 22/01/2005 18:07:41 avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 18:20:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF2616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:20:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 739C743D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:20:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kaeru@jaring.my) Received: from unknown (HELO wolverine.cerebro.net.my) (khairil?yusof@219.95.44.201 with plain) by smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 18:20:53 -0000 From: Khairil Yusof To: Andrew Diakin In-Reply-To: <1106005771.12500.4.camel@wolverine> References: <1104473785.891.73.camel@wolverine> <1106005771.12500.4.camel@wolverine> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-KHO9vE5U6yazeMhRM5R1" Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:21:01 +0800 Message-Id: <1106418061.1078.9.camel@wolverine> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: FreeBSD Mail List Subject: Re: usb printer-scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:20:54 -0000 --=-KHO9vE5U6yazeMhRM5R1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 07:49 +0800, Khairil Yusof wrote: > On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 21:24 +0300, Andrew Diakin wrote: >=20 > > Hmm.. I setup all ports as described this > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/cups.php, also I setup > > print/hpijs port and copy all *.ppd files to /usr/local/share/cups/mode= l > > printer is connected and usbdevs show him - >=20 > > in cups web admin I setup printer, select device USB Printer #1, then > > when I try to print test page nothing happens... what I do wrong? Sorry for getting back late on this: I forgot.. that that if using foomatic you need foomatic filter: http://www.linuxprinting.org/download.cgi?filename=3Dfoomatic-rip&show=3D0 Copy it to: /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/ And set it as executable chmod 700 foomatic-rip --=-KHO9vE5U6yazeMhRM5R1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB8pmNDAqnLW/+/X8RAh/3AJ96+osCZpFQ9Ja3Yay+ZNb0PwPA/ACghYNm 2bgXzMzJ3xxEwCN0JJAAzhE= =7AHH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-KHO9vE5U6yazeMhRM5R1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:02:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C74516A4CE; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:02:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7627343D2F; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:02:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (utdvpn084052.utdallas.edu [129.110.84.52]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F02388C26; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:02:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:01:57 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Mark Ovens , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <2147483647.1106398917@[192.168.2.101]> In-Reply-To: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> References: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Daily run output message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:02:04 -0000 --On Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:46 PM +0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > I see this in the daily run output on a 4.10-R box: > > Removing stale entries from sendmail host status cache: > purgestat: no mapping in /etc/mail/mailer.conf > > What is the mapping that is missing? The machine is running postfix, not > sendmail BTW. > Read the pkg-message file in the Postfix port. Also, you will want to disable some Sendmail-specific daily maintenance routines in your /etc/periodic.conf file: daily_clean_hoststat_enable="NO" daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" daily_status_include_submit_mailq="NO" daily_submit_queuerun="NO" Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:03:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0F016A4D0 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:03:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from onyx.hysteria.sk (onyx.hysteria.sk [195.168.3.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53ABD43D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:03:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fofo@hysteria.sk) Received: (qmail 7577 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jan 2005 19:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.33]) ([62.168.75.5]) (envelope-sender ) by c0re.hysteria.sk (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jan 2005 19:02:58 -0000 Message-ID: <41F2A35F.4080507@hysteria.sk> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:02:55 +0100 From: Michal Kapalka User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: cs, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens References: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on onyx.hysteria.sk X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Daily run output message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fofo@hysteria.sk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:03:05 -0000 http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2004-02/0336.html Best Regards fofo > I see this in the daily run output on a 4.10-R box: > > Removing stale entries from sendmail host status cache: > purgestat: no mapping in /etc/mail/mailer.conf > > What is the mapping that is missing? The machine is running postfix, > not sendmail BTW. > > TIA > > Regards, > > Mark > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0503-2, 21/01/2005 > Tested on: 22/01/2005 17:46:33 > avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:12:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C2B16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:12:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay1-f38.bay1.hotmail.com [65.54.245.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C8C43D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:12:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lady_amalara@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:12:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 205.206.1.11 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:11:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.206.1.11] X-Originating-Email: [lady_amalara@hotmail.com] X-Sender: lady_amalara@hotmail.com From: "Lady Amalara" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:11:45 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2005 19:12:01.0575 (UTC) FILETIME=[407A9370:01C500B6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:12:02 -0000 My Question is...how can I block my IP address so others won't see it??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:12:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B7F16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:12:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803B043D46 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:12:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so112429wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:12:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=unTtiXWZJzNUI/6YTTxxQZf6ROBr4XrvwYwFFj/HmDPWVOyUIYJtbVQ8NowtBqudcH9E2n73ghS35v1NYa4v9uRvZMz7gWm7fPQFgfT+Ze1ERgL5KOoI7cVPXW3FgGeRWONBeWNnuqulD4IRRP+kUTIgRlq3BcA2uc0NhvtMcbw= Received: by 10.54.49.12 with SMTP id w12mr160506wrw; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:12:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:12:35 -0800 From: gabriel To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:12:37 -0000 Hello everyone, I call this e-mail "Network Printing" because that, along with many other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working (copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the output: -- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19): (The 1657 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) PORT STATE SERVICE 21/tcp open ftp 80/tcp open http 139/tcp open netbios-ssn 280/tcp open http-mgmt 443/tcp open https 9100/tcp open jetdirect MAC Address: 00:01:E6:94:5D:5D (Hewlett-Packard Company) Device type: printer Running: HP embedded OS details: HP printer w/JetDirect card Uptime 0.010 days (since Sat Jan 22 11:04:39 2005) -- I have never setup a printer in my bsd days, thus I'm inquiring here. Does anyone have any clues, links to how-tos, a cousin's phone number that knows how to do this? I also tried to install and configure cups and lpd to no avail. One thing that did give me hope was this command: echo "Test" | nc hpprinter 9100 which returned a printed page with "Test" on it (without the quotes). Thanks! gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:13:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AE316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:13:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A377443D5D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:12:58 -0600 Message-ID: <41F2A5C1.2090403@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:13:05 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kiffin Gish References: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> <20050122130433.F2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <000e01c50098$b42f60c0$9700000a@XGISH> In-Reply-To: <000e01c50098$b42f60c0$9700000a@XGISH> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2005 19:13:01.0829 (UTC) FILETIME=[64649B50:01C500B6] cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot connect to printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:13:16 -0000 Kiffin Gish wrote: >Like I said, this is just my laptop connected to a printer via the parallel >port. > >Nothing to do with Windows, Samba nor a web server. > >I'll be happy enough if I can get the basics up and running. > >-------------------------------------------- >Kiffin Gish >Gouda, The Netherlands > > You might try installing apsfilter to do some of this work for you. Last time I did it, it took care of driver selection and /etc/printcap configuration quite well and automagically, with a shell "setup" script that only asked a few questions that needed my input. It's in ports (/usr/ports/print/apsfilter), and you might be able to find out it your printer would work with it at www.apsfilter.org (I'm pretty sure it would....) It's nice software, IMHO, and who knows, maybe Andreas doesn't yet have a postcard from your location.... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:13:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CD316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:13:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A329A43D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:13:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so112501wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:13:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=sSyp/w5H2Yiw0UK8FyD/WUhlwczTemgiJHChT6eO9Np4gRXmPWwv4hoFGJmvgknSacW9qYv6b8pASHTMwRtdkr0OLYnucnK+AkDd+uLgzWjVPqgpvo0aFkqLNIlBdr8k8TL1lSMWpAn6lshoTRZM9PXnrXA+X32rALOIKlmULp4= Received: by 10.54.56.80 with SMTP id e80mr159219wra; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:13:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:13:51 -0800 From: gabriel To: Lady Amalara In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:13:53 -0000 Depends, is it a private ip address? IP addresses, if public, can be "seen" by everyone on the internet, you may be able to limit the type of packets and responses it gives, but other than that, no clue. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:11:45 -0700, Lady Amalara wrote: > > My Question is...how can I block my IP address so others won't see > it??? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:14:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F7816A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:14:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from thor.65535.net (thor.65535.net [216.17.104.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2004343D1F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:14:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rghf@fsck.me.uk) Received: from [212.228.151.253] (helo=jackhammer) by thor.65535.net with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1CsQcp-000OMx-Vt; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:08:48 -0800 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:14:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Rus Foster X-X-Sender: rghf@jackhammer To: Lady Amalara In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:14:47 -0000 yOn Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Lady Amalara wrote: > > My Question is...how can I block my IP address so others won't see > it??? Unless you go via a proxy not easily but this is more of a general question than VPS Rus -- e: rghf@vpscolo.com : t: 1-888-327-6330 http://www.vaserv.com - Coming soon. Email sales@vaserv.com for more info http://www.storemypic.com - Free Image Hosting http://www.vpsforums.com - Talk for VPS users and Providers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:17:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B0F16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:17:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5036743D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:17:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70F86121; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:17:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02918-08; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:17:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1396F6110; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:17:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41F2A6EA.5090502@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:18:02 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lady Amalara References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:17:48 -0000 Lady Amalara wrote: > > My Question is...how can I block my IP address so others won't see > it??? Remove you internet connection. -- Best regards, Chris Any line, however short, is still too long. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:19:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A7F16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:19:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD2F43D1F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:19:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so112826wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:19:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oGDxP6UdSrtgvgO3ID0pdzqCszkRGVESppbHm9B+jH3q5XVKd83VzE2FVyavE9y/gpWk3PPnv5dLb+uu+DyQWU6LU7WpK3h5o5gknk5N3xjSyBQcPELZ2mpWL6AaQbCbdQK9RKrS3e0qS6itI2kMDQNVBNRST9jt4mBHHxZaGvY= Received: by 10.54.6.55 with SMTP id 55mr165276wrf; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:19:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:19:34 -0800 From: gabriel To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <41F2A5C1.2090403@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000001c50075$4d7b7f80$9900000a@ZGISH> <20050122130433.F2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <000e01c50098$b42f60c0$9700000a@XGISH> <41F2A5C1.2090403@daleco.biz> Subject: Re: Cannot connect to printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:19:35 -0000 You might wanna look at www.linuxprinting.org, see if it can use hpjis as a driver. If so, then you can follow what they recommend. Cheers! On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:13:05 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Kiffin Gish wrote: > > >Like I said, this is just my laptop connected to a printer via the parallel > >port. > > > >Nothing to do with Windows, Samba nor a web server. > > > >I'll be happy enough if I can get the basics up and running. > > > >-------------------------------------------- > >Kiffin Gish > >Gouda, The Netherlands > > > > > > You might try installing apsfilter to do some of this > work for you. Last time I did it, it took care of driver > selection and /etc/printcap configuration quite well and > automagically, with a shell "setup" script that only asked a > few questions that needed my input. > > It's in ports (/usr/ports/print/apsfilter), and you might > be able to find out it your printer would work with it > at www.apsfilter.org (I'm pretty sure it would....) > > It's nice software, IMHO, and who knows, maybe Andreas > doesn't yet have a postcard from your location.... > > Kevin Kinsey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:25:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F2A16A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:25:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6560543D5D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:25:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:9916 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CsQse-0004fs-92 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:25:08 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018381A9A7 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:25:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81C937021 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:25:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:24:44 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:25:13 -0000 gabriel wrote: > I call this e-mail "Network Printing" because that, along with many > other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the > situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working > (copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer > connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP > address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the > output: > > -- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19): ---- zip ----- > 9100/tcp open jetdirect try the jetdirect, got that working fine here with a HP Laserjet 5M and cups (make cupsd run properly and try the setup in localhost:631) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:32:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D309616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:32:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhost.schluting.com (schluting.com [131.252.214.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C7143D1F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:32:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from charlie@schluting.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.schluting.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3A12567; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.schluting.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (schluting.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13165-07; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.0.69] (c-24-20-163-50.client.comcast.net [24.20.163.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.schluting.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493A52281; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:32:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41F2A9BF.8060800@schluting.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:30:07 -0800 From: Charlie Schluting User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lady Amalara References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by your mom at schluting.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:32:21 -0000 Lady Amalara wrote: > > My Question is...how can I block my IP address so others won't see > it??? > ___________________________ The only way is to stop using 205.206.1.11 to connect to anything. Really, you can't "hide".. else nothing will work. The only way is to not use the Internet. i.e. you don't want to. -Charlie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:35:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E982716A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:35:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB5D43D2F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:35:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so113676wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:35:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZxbPUjD5yS4y13B1/p6aJamh4yTPPAYN0BaC+U7IruITG1SZQHHNRw2XVjCvwtqvFa8BSdNdomQpJ2YhO6lPHbrcs1PFjQS8e5wu5GrhOpQpgtCIQG6LK3cE1JspgTi6Z6/JE4U0QwpV/sde1jO/cdufyjBfUEkhTVo8MQ5LByA= Received: by 10.54.3.78 with SMTP id 78mr53741wrc; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:35:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:35:33 -0800 From: gabriel To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl> Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:35:35 -0000 I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," - I had cupsd running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631, however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page would be printed out that says "*** Unable to open the initial device, quiting." Cheers! On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:24:44 +0100, albi wrote: > gabriel wrote: > > > I call this e-mail "Network Printing" because that, along with many > > other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the > > situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working > > (copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer > > connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP > > address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the > > output: > > > > -- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19): > ---- zip ----- > > 9100/tcp open jetdirect > > try the jetdirect, got that working fine here with a HP Laserjet 5M > and cups (make cupsd run properly and try the setup in localhost:631) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602F416A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:57:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D09043D31 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:57:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:9918 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CsROD-0009Rg-B3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:57:45 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C83D1A9A7 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:57:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D175437021 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:57:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F2B02F.7080300@scii.nl> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:57:35 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:57:46 -0000 gabriel wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," - I had cupsd > running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631, > however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page > would be printed out that says "*** Unable to open the initial device, > quiting." in cups you have the choice between jet-direct, ipp, http, smb and more, my suggestion was to try the jetdirect if you didn't do that yet, furthermore, if i were you i would look at the logfiles from cups (put them in debug-mode if needed), it's possible that you need to change some permissions in the cups-spoolfile (and perhaps even a tcpdump can be helpful) GL! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:02:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53E316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:02:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890B243D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:02:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005012220021101200g4fc8e>; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:02:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.16] (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.16]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4C760C6; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:02:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41F2B14D.8030609@trini0.org> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:02:21 -0500 From: Gerard Samuel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050122) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gabriel References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:02:13 -0000 gabriel wrote: >I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," > > PORT STATE SERVICE 9100/tcp open jetdirect <=== This One Jetdirect is HP's print server From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:08:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DB916A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:08:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD8B43D46 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:08:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so115418wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:08:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LKZxyQqil8OIJoI9SvNhcf4FGnRn26SXrRyx9Ltaz0GVa6uXbzskhM1h5nGjHA146gQSbyKg09ymiT0PdQfeC8vTjfdeF43PXTkFEBggTV9a27mpjkS6iVwc177xFzqxqjra42Kb504it9Y5F5iQMQ0DkQGQjvke8DVASEi/Cis= Received: by 10.54.27.4 with SMTP id a4mr179528wra; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:08:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:08:57 -0800 From: gabriel To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <41F2B02F.7080300@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl> <41F2B02F.7080300@scii.nl> Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:08:59 -0000 Yeah I already use "AppSocket/HP JetDirect" in cups. Check out http://normal1.net/tcpdump for a real quick dump done when "Printing test page". After the print test is done, I go check on the job in "Manage Jobs" and I see this, ID Name User Size State Control HPPrinter-5 Test Page root 15k aborted Restart Job HPPrinter-6 Test Page root 15k aborted Restart Job HPPrinter-7 Test Page root 15k aborted Restart Job -- If I try to "Restart Job" this outputs: Error: client-error-not-possible and this is what the error_log from cups says: E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3! E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! Cheers! On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:57:35 +0100, albi wrote: > gabriel wrote: > > I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," - I had cupsd > > running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631, > > however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page > > would be printed out that says "*** Unable to open the initial device, > > quiting." > > in cups you have the choice between jet-direct, ipp, http, smb and more, > my suggestion was to try the jetdirect if you didn't do that yet, > > furthermore, if i were you i would look at the logfiles from cups (put > them in debug-mode if needed), it's possible that you need to change > some permissions in the cups-spoolfile (and perhaps even a tcpdump can > be helpful) > > GL! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:10:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED3016A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:10:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC2643D4C for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:10:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko@freebsd.org) Received: from movens.plus.com ([80.229.231.20] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CsRa6-000LVz-Ku; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:10:02 +0000 Message-ID: <41F2B2D5.6060006@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:08:53 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20050113) X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <41F29178.4000304@freebsd.org> <2147483647.1106398917@[192.168.2.101]> In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1106398917@[192.168.2.101]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0503-2, 21/01/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Daily run output message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:10:04 -0000 On 22/01/2005 19:01 Paul Schmehl stood on a soap-box and preached to the unwashed masses: > --On Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:46 PM +0000 Mark Ovens > wrote: > >> I see this in the daily run output on a 4.10-R box: >> >> Removing stale entries from sendmail host status cache: >> purgestat: no mapping in /etc/mail/mailer.conf >> >> What is the mapping that is missing? The machine is running postfix, not >> sendmail BTW. >> > Read the pkg-message file in the Postfix port. > > Also, you will want to disable some Sendmail-specific daily maintenance > routines in your /etc/periodic.conf file: > > daily_clean_hoststat_enable="NO" > daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" > daily_status_include_submit_mailq="NO" > daily_submit_queuerun="NO" > I'd read the port message and put those lines in /etc/periodic.conf but I had to create the file but mis-typed periodic.comf Duh! :-[ Thanks for all the replies. Regards, Mark --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0503-2, 21/01/2005 Tested on: 22/01/2005 20:08:55 avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:24:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA75916A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:24:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A68D43D31 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:24:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0FC991C00165 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:24:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EB9FE1C0014A for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:24:03 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050122202403965.EB9FE1C0014A@mwinf0106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:24:03 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 4 (Low) Message-ID: <1811797765.20050122212403@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Who generates the daily, weekly, monthly reports on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:24:05 -0000 Speaking of reports, how do the daily, monthly, and weekly reports output by FreeBSD get generated? I see nothing when I do a crontab -l from root, but there's stuff under /etc/crontab. Is there a schedule of cron stuff that gets run independently of any user, or how does it work? If I wanted to change when or how these reports are generated (I don't currently, but suppose I did), where would I go to modify it, since it doesn't seem to be part of root's crontab? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:27:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D3116A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:27:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529F343D39 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:27:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:9928 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CsRql-000PEP-FT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:27:15 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81411A9A7 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:27:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB55A37021 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:27:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F2B71C.1060203@scii.nl> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:27:08 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1811797765.20050122212403@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1811797765.20050122212403@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Who generates the daily, weekly, monthly reports on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:27:16 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Speaking of reports, how do the daily, monthly, and weekly reports > output by FreeBSD get generated? I see nothing when I do a crontab -l > from root, but there's stuff under /etc/crontab. check the /etc/periodic/ dir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:42:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF87816A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:42:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iqara.net (sendmail.iqara.net [203.187.192.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4143D48 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:42:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 10918 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2005 20:25:36 -0000 Received: from 30-125-109-203.cable-client.iqara.net (HELO dhumketu.homeunix.net) ([203.109.125.30]) (envelope-sender ) by iqara.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jan 2005 20:25:36 -0000 Received: by dhumketu.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 383C56766; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:01:36 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:01:36 +0530 From: Shantanoo Mahajan To: Brian John Message-ID: <20050122203136.GB3499@dhumketu.homeunix.net> Mail-Followup-To: Brian John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41F03F0F.3010206@fusemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41F03F0F.3010206@fusemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Hmmm... I dunno X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386 X-UPTIME: 1:56AM up 13:55, 0 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.04, 0.01 X-Mailer-Website: http://www.mutt.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ALTQ support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:42:04 -0000 +++ Brian John [freebsd] [20-01-05 17:30 -0600]: | Hello, | I am trying to get pf to work on my 5.3 machine. I thought that I had | it setup but it says that I don't have ALTQ support? What is that? Can | someone help me set it up? | | Thanks | | /Brian 1) man altq 2) http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf Regards, Shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:42:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB5E16A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:42:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iqara.net (sendmail.iqara.net [203.187.192.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8DC43D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:42:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 10919 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2005 20:25:36 -0000 Received: from 30-125-109-203.cable-client.iqara.net (HELO dhumketu.homeunix.net) ([203.109.125.30]) (envelope-sender ) by iqara.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jan 2005 20:25:36 -0000 Received: by dhumketu.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 74E5D6768; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:06:56 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:06:56 +0530 From: Shantanoo Mahajan To: Nguyen Le Hinh Message-ID: <20050122203656.GC3499@dhumketu.homeunix.net> Mail-Followup-To: Nguyen Le Hinh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Hmmm... I dunno X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386 X-UPTIME: 1:56AM up 13:55, 0 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.04, 0.01 X-Mailer-Website: http://www.mutt.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plugin for onlinestreaming music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:42:04 -0000 +++ Nguyen Le Hinh [freebsd] [21-01-05 14:53 +0900]: | Hi alls, | Can anyone hear the online streaming music from this website: | http://www.nhatrangngaynay.net/music/index.php?act=view&code=song&ssid=12&id=625 | I installed both mplayer plugin and plugger but still not be able to | hear it.Any ideas for it? | Thanks, | Ps :The above address will be ok with windows... | | ------------------------------ Following is what I get from mplayer =============================================================== Playing http://www.nhatrangngaynay.net/music/index.php?act=view&code=song&ssid=12&id=625. Resolving www.nhatrangngaynay.net for AF_INET6... Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.nhatrangngaynay.net Resolving www.nhatrangngaynay.net for AF_INET... Connecting to server www.nhatrangngaynay.net[67.43.159.12]:80 ... Cache size set to 320 KBytes Connected to server: www.nhatrangngaynay.net Cache fill: 13.37% (43810 bytes) Exiting... (End of file) =============================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 21:01:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4D216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:01:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173DB43D46 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:01:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EB1BF24001A5 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:01:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D2FFA2400198 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:01:47 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050122210147864.D2FFA2400198@mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:01:47 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1036176692.20050122220147@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41F2B71C.1060203@scii.nl> References: <1811797765.20050122212403@wanadoo.fr> <41F2B71C.1060203@scii.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Who generates the daily, weekly, monthly reports on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:01:49 -0000 albi writes: a> check the /etc/periodic/ dir I've seen it. But where does it run from? Supposedly you're not supposed to modify crontab files directly, but where do these jobs belong if crontab -l from root won't list them. Is there some sort of "system" crontab in addition to those for root and other users, or how does it work? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 21:16:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F310016A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:16:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCC843D45 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:16:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from danielby by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CsSc3-0004ls-2r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:16:07 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:16:06 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050122211606.GA18278@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1811797765.20050122212403@wanadoo.fr> <41F2B71C.1060203@scii.nl> <1036176692.20050122220147@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1036176692.20050122220147@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Who generates the daily, weekly, monthly reports on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:16:09 -0000 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 10:01:47PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > albi writes: >=20 > a> check the /etc/periodic/ dir >=20 > I've seen it. But where does it run from? Supposedly you're not > supposed to modify crontab files directly, but where do these jobs > belong if crontab -l from root won't list them. Is there some sort of > "system" crontab in addition to those for root and other users, or how > does it work? /etc/crontab is indeed the "system" crontab. You can safely edit this one by hand. The following three lines are the ones you're interested in: # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. 1 3 * * * root periodic daily 15 4 * * 6 root periodic weekly 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly Note the additional field, before the command is named. It determines which user the command runs as. See crontab(5) for more details. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB8sKWhvzwOpChvo8RAjdMAJ40qRO3kI3vLwIzx4Qmd469DPmjZACgjwY+ ZJpvA3m8axoWlg3jBc0pvx8= =AI41 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 21:17:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBB416A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:17:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E70043D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:17:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0MLEhWm005229 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:14:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0MLEcQU005228 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:14:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:14:38 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050122211438.GA4455@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1811797765.20050122212403@wanadoo.fr> <41F2B71C.1060203@scii.nl> <1036176692.20050122220147@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1036176692.20050122220147@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Who generates the daily, weekly, monthly reports on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:17:10 -0000 On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 10:01:47PM +0100 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > albi writes: > > a> check the /etc/periodic/ dir > > I've seen it. But where does it run from? Supposedly you're not > supposed to modify crontab files directly, but where do these jobs > belong if crontab -l from root won't list them. Is there some sort of > "system" crontab in addition to those for root and other users, or how > does it work? > The files from /etc/periodic run from /etc/crontab. Refer to lines 20-22 Gardner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 21:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54C716A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:36:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD8843D45 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:36:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from pd3mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr6so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.21])2004))freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:36:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd3mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IAQ00IG8MPBHW30@pd3mr6so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:36:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IAQ00FAUMPBFL@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:36:47 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:36:46 -0700 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: To: Lady Amalara Message-id: <20050122213646.GC1163@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:36:47 -0000 On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 12:11:45PM -0700, Lady Amalara wrote: > > My Question is...how can I block my IP address so others won't see > it??? Disconnect your computer from the internet. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 21:51:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF3216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:51:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A593043D48 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:51:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so32729rnz for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:51:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nbaxXpDv1kRAvBU1TnAtqzmtOwrunj2hc8FjQ2MBLn8Jeo0kVgB/P/e6zGRNT80qe8lkZNmRW8LkklfwNyLc2dgiLM5nrQQ5PZ0jdZF7HmWH/h6XEfpFaaRAuiEMMCtXuNyB+zIelRZLI2Xf6CkUl4Zt4NvuVKkk7Fkz7BBHoJE= Received: by 10.38.8.12 with SMTP id 12mr151402rnh; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.43 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:51:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:51:31 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:51:36 -0000 All, This post is not about BSD VS. Linux and should not be taken that way. I think that "Flame Wars/Engineer Wars" are waste of time and energy. I was surprised by my test results and didn't want to take FBSD out of the loop just yet. There may be flaws in my testing that have led me to inaccurate results. I didn't share the testing details in the original mail because of time constraints, and the notes are fairly lengthy. I will add my notes to this mail so that there is a better understanding of what tests I performed, and their results.=20 It's important to note that I did not tweak any of the default settings of the OS or DB. The notes should be generally self explanatory, but will be more that happy to clarify any questions that you have. As a side note, I chose the email address linicks because by name is Nick, and thought it was a fun play on words. I appreciate all of your feedback, so that I can better understand the differences in these great operating systems and communities. Thanks Again! --Nick Pavlica "OK, The testing notes already" :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------ Hardware Configs: Dell PE 2400 - Dual PIII 500Mhz - 512Mb Ram - Perc 2si controller - (2) 10k ultra160 drives in a raid 1 configuration. Dell SC400 - P4 2.4 Ghz (not hyperthreaded) - 512Mb Ram - Stock 40Gb IDE 7200RPM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- Postgresql Test Scripts: CREATE TABLE test1 ( thedate TIMESTAMP, astring VARCHAR(200), anumber INTEGER ); CREATE FUNCTION build_data() RETURNS integer AS ' DECLARE i INTEGER DEFAULT 0; curtime TIMESTAMP; BEGIN FOR i IN 1..1000000 LOOP curtime :=3D ''now''; INSERT INTO test1 VALUES (curtime, ''test string'', i); END LOOP; RETURN 1; END; ' LANGUAGE 'plpgsql'; SELECT build_data(); Then the following script is run under the time program to ascertain how long it takes to run: CREATE TABLE test2 ( thedate TIMESTAMP, astring VARCHAR(200), anumber INTEGER ); CREATE TABLE test3 AS SELECT * FROM test1; INSERT INTO test2 SELECT * FROM test1 WHERE ((anumber % 2) =3D 0); DELETE FROM test3 WHERE ((anumber % 2) =3D 0); DELETE FROM test3 WHERE ((anumber % 13) =3D 0); CREATE TABLE test4 AS SELECT test1.thedate AS t1date, test2.thedate AS t2date, test1.astring AS t1string, test2.astring AS t2string, test1.anumber AS t1number, test2.anumber AS t2number FROM test1 JOIN test2 ON test1.anumber=3Dtest2.anumber; UPDATE test3 SET thedate=3D'now' WHERE ((anumber % 5) =3D 0); DROP TABLE test4; CREATE TABLE test4 AS SELECT * FROM test1; DELETE FROM test4 WHERE ((anumber % 27) =3D 0); VACUUM ANALYZE; VACUUM FULL; DROP TABLE test4; DROP TABLE test3; DROP TABLE test2; VACUUM FULL; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------- sc400 freeBSD5: $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 71.807645 secs (14953029 bytes/sec) 71.82real 0.68 user 8.83 sys 71.82 / 60 =3D 1.197 -- 517 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:02 12.35% 5.91% dd 517 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:13 12.48% 12.35% dd $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out 2147483648 bytes transferred in 136.815925 secs (15696153 bytes/sec) 136.85 real 1.29 user 17.49 sys 136.85 / 60 =3D 2.280833333 -- 542 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:19 13.35% 13.33% dd 542 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:24 12.99% 12.99% dd $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out 3221225472 bytes transferred in 205.722425 secs (15658115 bytes/sec) 205.72 real 1.82 user 27.39 sys 205.72 / 60 =3D 3.428666667 copy test: 558 nick.pavlica -4 0 1272K 680K getblk 0:01 2.30% 1.32% cp 558 nick.pavlica -4 0 1272K 680K getblk 0:02 1.80% 1.71% cp 558 nick.pavlica -4 0 1272K 680K getblk 0:03 1.87% 1.86% cp $ time cp tstfile tstfile2 579.31 real 0.03 user 14.61 sys 579.31 / 60 =3D 9.655166667 (FreeBSD 5.3+ on SC400) b test 1: 535 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1216K getblk 0:17 2.84% 2.83% bonnie+= + 568 nick.pavlica 105 0 2380K 1196K RUN 0:09 92.99% 36.62% bonnie+= + 568 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1192K wdrain 0:14 12.35% 11.23% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP sc400.e--station 1G 257 99 15135 5 10033 3 508 99 45572 10 124.3= 5 Latency 33802us 161ms 467ms 32560us 17190us 537= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- sc400.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++= +++ Latency 14891us 149us 226us 2671us 133us 1270= us 1.93c,1.93c,sc400.e--station.com,1,1106248340,1G,,257,99,15135,5,10033,3,50= 8,99, 45572,10,124.3,5,5,,,,,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,++= +++,+ ++,33802us,161ms,467ms,32560us,17190us,537ms,14891us,149us,226us,2671us,133= us,12 70us B Test 2: 712 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1212K wdrain 0:12 53.78% 33.01% bonnie= ++ 712 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1208K wdrain 0:17 4.90% 4.88% bonnie= ++ $ bonnie++ -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP sc400.e--station 2G 260 99 14394 5 9512 3 505 99 42976 9 94.7= 4 Latency 32809us 284ms 470ms 30153us 15074us 3564= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- sc400.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++= +++ Latency 6772us 1452us 175us 3964us 114us 46821= us 1.93c,1.93c,sc400.e=E2=80=94station.com,1,1106252670,2G,,260,99,14394,5,951= 2,3,505,99,42976,9,94.7,4,5,,,,,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++= ++,+++,+++++,+++,32809us,284ms,470ms,30153us,15074us,3564ms,6772us,1452us,1= 75us,3964us,114us,46821us Test 3: 754 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1208K wdrain 0:13 26.89% 20.90% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP sc400.e--station 3G 259 99 14484 5 9671 3 507 99 40714 9 77.7= 3 Latency 33254us 569ms 591ms 36025us 22245us 936= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- sc400.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++= +++ Latency 13993us 154us 120us 20243us 555us 72= us 1.93c,1.93c,sc400.e=E2=80=94station.com,1,1106253537,3G,,259,99,14484,5,967= 1,3,507,99,40714,9,77.7,3,5,,,,,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++= ++,+++,+++++,+++,33254us,569ms,591ms,36025us,22245us,936ms,13993us,154us,12= 0us,20243us,555us,72us (PG Performance Test) 2039 pgsql -4 0 16328K 11984K getblk 0:04 19.92% 12.60% postgr= es 2039 pgsql -8 0 16344K 12024K biord 0:11 18.51% 17.14% postgr= es $ time psql -d perftst -f ptst.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM 304.00 real 0.00 user 0.00 sys 304.00/60 =3D 5.066666667 2077 pgsql -8 0 28168K 15640K biord 0:38 12.01% 12.01% postgr= es 2077 pgsql -4 0 28168K 15812K semwai 0:40 10.16% 10.16% postgr= es $ time psql -d perftst -f ptst.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM 307.97 real 0.00 user 0.00 sys 307.97/60=3D5.132833333 2113 pgsql -4 0 19960K 15296K ufs 0:30 15.97% 15.97% postg= res 2113 pgsql -16 0 28168K 19280K wdrain 0:37 12.70% 12.70% postgr= es $ time psql -d perftst -f ptst.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM 304.89 real 0.00 user 0.00 sys 304.89/60=3D5.0815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Fedora C3 EXT3 [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1= M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 0m24.270s user 0m0.736s sys 0m5.528s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2= M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 0m53.607s user 0m1.432s sys 0m11.306s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3= M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 1m16.598s user 0m2.133s sys 0m16.794s Copy Test: [root@localhost ~]# time cp tstfile tstfile2 real 2m32.022s user 0m0.528s sys 0m12.417s Bonnie Tests: bonnie++ -u root -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 1G 24983 72 49013 14 21798 5 21618 58 52864 6 137.5= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++= +++ localhost.localdomain,1G,24983,72,49013,14,21798,5,21618,58,52864,6,137.5,0= ,5,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++ bonnie++ -u root -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 2G 30392 88 35467 10 16794 4 21350 57 40749 4 92.0= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++= +++ localhost.localdomain,2G,30392,88,35467,10,16794,4,21350,57,40749,4,92.0,0,= 5,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++ [root@localhost ~]# bonnie++ -u root -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 3G 30940 90 36972 10 18177 4 22040 60 44367 4 85.7= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++= +++ localhost.localdomain,3G,30940,90,36972,10,18177,4,22040,60,44367,4,85.7,0,= 5,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++ 5513 postgres 18 0 20448 11m 10m D 13.0 4.6 0:01.37 postmaster 5513 postgres 19 0 20448 11m 10m D 13.3 4.6 0:02.97 postmaster 5513 postgres 18 0 20448 11m 10m D 35.6 4.7 0:08.26 postmaster 5513 postgres 18 0 21900 13m 11m D 39.0 5.3 0:20.90 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 4m20.061s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.003s bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m59.877s user 0m0.004s sys 0m0.007s 26307 postgres 18 0 21684 14m 11m R 8.0 5.7 0:39.30 postmaster 26307 postgres 18 0 21684 14m 11m R 20.3 5.7 0:43.37 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m29.036s user 0m0.002s sys 0m0.012s 26317 postgres 18 0 20472 10m 9.8m D 45.3 4.3 0:10.53 postmaster 26317 postgres 18 0 22500 12m 9.9m D 28.3 5.1 0:24.92 postmaster 26317 postgres 18 0 25580 16m 11m R 28.3 6.6 0:42.54 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m30.825s user 0m0.001s sys 0m0.009s 26323 postgres 18 0 20448 10m 10m R 46.9 4.4 0:36.98 postmaster 26323 postgres 16 0 31100 21m 10m R 48.9 8.6 3:41.24 postmaster 26323 postgres 16 0 29088 19m 10m R 26.6 7.9 5:19.27 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 3000000 DELETE 3000000 DELETE 230772 SELECT UPDATE 553848 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 222222 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 24m55.547s user 0m0.008s sys 0m0.005s bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst.sql thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 894455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 75455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 444455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 7555 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 5 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 4455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 111155 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 33355 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 998455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 8455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) real 3m13.732s user 0m0.005s sys 0m0.004s ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------- SC400 FC3 With XFS: 4665 root 18 0 4380 468 404 D 21.6 0.2 0:02.43 dd [root@localhost tmp]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count= =3D1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 0m22.676s user 0m0.663s sys 0m3.494s 4667 root 19 0 3672 468 404 R 8.7 0.2 0:00.26 dd [root@localhost tmp]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count= =3D2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 0m46.277s user 0m1.214s sys 0m7.141s 4674 root 25 0 4532 468 404 R 13.6 0.2 0:02.34 dd 4674 root 18 0 4532 468 404 D 17.6 0.2 0:05.52 dd [root@localhost tmp]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count= =3D3M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 1m12.727s user 0m1.884s sys 0m10.573s copy tests: 4744 root 18 0 3940 620 540 D 9.3 0.2 0:00.73 cp 4744 root 18 0 3940 620 540 R 9.3 0.2 0:01.78 cp 4744 root 18 0 3940 620 540 R 4.0 0.2 0:06.62 cp [root@localhost tmp]# time cp tstfile tstfile2 real 2m22.101s user 0m0.500s sys 0m8.178s bonnie tests: [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 1G 33376 97 48548 7 20451 4 25233 69 47488 5 154.7= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 3724 17 +++++ +++ 3828 17 2957 14 +++++ +++ 2290= 10 localhost.localdomain,1G,33376,97,48548,7,20451,4,25233,69,47488,5,154.7,0,= 5,3724,17,+++++,+++,3828,17,2957,14,+++++,+++,2290,10 4747 root 23 0 3004 976 840 R 88.9 0.4 1:56.32 bonnie++ 4747 root 18 0 2996 968 840 R 7.0 0.4 2:09.53 bonnie++ 4751 root 17 0 2996 980 844 D 0.3 0.4 0:00.02 bonnie++ [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 2G 32988 97 47779 6 21777 5 26410 74 49463 6 130.0= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 3145 15 +++++ +++ 3641 15 3299 17 +++++ +++ 2037= 9 localhost.localdomain,2G,32988,97,47779,6,21777,5,26410,74,49463,6,130.0,0,= 5,3145,15,+++++,+++,3641,15,3299,17,+++++,+++,2037,9 4788 root 25 0 3120 968 840 R 97.9 0.4 0:19.11 bonnie++ 4788 root 25 0 3124 972 840 R 97.6 0.4 0:42.54 bonnie++ 4788 root 25 0 3116 968 840 D 6.7 0.4 1:37.18 bonnie++ [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 3G 32331 97 47200 6 21836 5 26740 75 49292 6 125.9= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 3215 14 +++++ +++ 3360 14 3036 15 +++++ +++ 1856= 8 localhost.localdomain,3G,32331,97,47200,6,21836,5,26740,75,49292,6,125.9,0,= 5,3215,14,+++++,+++,3360,14,3036,15,+++++,+++,1856,8 5024 postgres 18 0 20116 11m 10m R 68.6 4.6 0:05.75 postmaster 5024 postgres 18 0 21288 12m 10m D 45.3 5.1 0:13.88 postmaster 4950 postgres 15 0 19572 10m 9828 D 1.0 4.0 0:00.13 postmaster 024 postgres 18 0 21568 12m 10m R 60.9 5.1 0:21.99 postmaster 5024 postgres 19 0 20176 11m 10m R 51.9 4.7 0:34.02 postmaster -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m9.088s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.005s 5026 postgres 18 0 21392 13m 11m D 45.9 5.3 0:23.92 postmaster 5026 postgres 18 0 21392 13m 11m D 44.3 5.3 0:28.45 postmaster 5026 postgres 18 0 37780 17m 11m R 10.7 7.1 0:34.22 postmaster 5026 postgres 18 0 21392 14m 11m D 13.0 5.7 0:37.30 postmaster -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 3m22.001s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.009s -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m17.877s user 0m0.003s sys 0m0.006s 26432 postgres 18 0 20140 10m 9764 R 46.6 4.2 0:03.92 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m17.666s user 0m0.003s sys 0m0.006s 26440 postgres 18 0 22160 13m 10m D 50.3 5.2 0:23.60 postmaster 26440 postgres 18 0 37820 17m 11m R 9.3 6.9 0:34.46 postmaster -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m19.578s user 0m0.005s sys 0m0.010s (6 Million Rows) 26445 postgres 19 0 20116 10m 10m R 58.9 4.3 0:03.32 postmaster 26445 postgres 19 0 20116 10m 10m R 51.6 4.4 0:18.37 postmaster 26445 postgres 18 0 31764 22m 10m D 9.3 8.9 1:33.57 postmaster 26445 postgres 18 0 45076 36m 11m R 8.3 14.7 5:21.49 postmaster -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 3000000 DELETE 3000000 DELETE 230772 SELECT UPDATE 553848 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 222222 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 21m15.074s user 0m0.003s sys 0m0.007s (tst.sql) select * from test1 where anumber=3D894455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D75455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D444455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D7594455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D7511455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D7555; select * from test1 where anumber=3D5; select * from test1 where anumber=3D4455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D111155; select * from test1 where anumber=3D33355; select * from test1 where anumber=3D998455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D8455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D22754455; ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst.sql thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 894455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 75455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 444455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 7555 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 5 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 4455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 111155 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 33355 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 998455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 8455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) real 2m31.883s user 0m0.002s sys 0m0.005s ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------ Various Notes: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------ 1/18/05 PE 2400 bonnie++ Test with ext3: Top Output: 3911 root 25 0 3072 964 840 R 98.4 0.2 1:21.21 bonnie++ Bonnie++ Test1: [root@es1 npavlica]# bonnie++ -u root -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP es1.estation.com 1G 7469 91 9881 15 4846 6 9073 90 21034 15 362.4= 2 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 7962 90 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ 8874 99 +++++ +++ 8803= 69 es1.estation.com,1G,7469,91,9881,15,4846,6,9073,90,21034,15,362.4,2,5,7962,= 90,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,8874,99,+++++,+++,8803,69 Bonnie++ Test 2: [root@es1 npavlica]# bonnie++ -u root -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP es1.estation.com 2G 7208 88 8042 12 4652 6 8916 96 19611 14 252.9= 2 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 8075 92 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ 6731 75 +++++ +++ +++++= +++ es1.estation.com,2G,7208,88,8042,12,4652,6,8916,96,19611,14,252.9,2,5,8075,= 92,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,6731,75,+++++,+++,+++++,+++ Bonnie++ Test 3: [root@es1 npavlica]# bonnie++ -u root -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP es1.estation.com 3G 6995 85 7921 12 4723 6 9728 96 20919 15 218.5= 1 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 7840 90 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ 8852 100 +++++ +++ 9220= 72 es1.estation.com,3G,6995,85,7921,12,4723,6,9728,96,20919,15,218.5,1,5,7840,= 90,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,8852,100,+++++,+++,9220,72 DD Test 1: [root@es1 npavlica]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D= 1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 2m14.152s user 0m1.649s sys 0m29.622s DD Test 2: [root@es1 npavlica]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D= 1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 2m14.152s user 0m1.649s sys 0m29.622s [root@es1 npavlica]# rm tstfile rm: remove regular file `tstfile'? y [root@es1 npavlica]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D= 2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 4m7.145s user 0m3.152s sys 1m0.303s DD Test 3: [root@es1 npavlica]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D= 3M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 6m40.592s user 0m4.751s sys 1m31.968s FreeBSD5.3 I/O Tests: Partition Layout / Utilization: $ df -h Files ystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/aacd0s1a 248M 35M 193M 15% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/aacd0s1e 248M 6.0K 228M 0% /tmp /dev/aacd0s1f 31G 1.8G 27G 6% /usr /dev/aacd0s1d 248M 2.6M 225M 1% /var Bonnie++ Test 1: 715 nick.pavlica 97 0 2380K 1324K RUN 0:53 21.12% 20.85% bonni= e++ $ bonnie++ -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done.535 nick.pavlica -4 0=20 2380K 1216K getblk 0:17 2.84% 2.83% bonnie++ Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP vader.e--station 1G 60 99 6351 7 4169 5 170 99 20904 13 200.7= 19 Latency 190ms 6458ms 10221ms 57902us 33802us 423= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- vader.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 5647 59 +++++ +++ 9412 74 5757 56 +++++ +++ 5291= 45 Latency 9741us 917us 315us 225ms 875us 11165= us 1.93c,1.93c,vader.e=E2=80=94station.com,1,1106164339,1G,,60,99,6351,7,4169,= 5,170,99,20904,13,200.7,19,5,,,,,5647,59,+++++,+++,9412,74,5757,56,+++++,++= +,5291,45,190ms,6458ms,10221ms,57902us,33802us,423ms,9741us,917us,315us,225= ms,875us,11165us Bonnie++ Test 2: 745 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1200K wdrain 0:58 7.03% 7.03% bonnie+= + 745 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1200K getblk 1:21 5.57% 5.57% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP vader.e--station 2G 60 99 5483 6 4448 5 170 99 19045 12 129.8= 13 Latency 152ms 9726ms 7113ms 55161us 42746us 3598= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- vader.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 7036 72 +++++ +++ 9521 75 4877 50 +++++ +++ 9029= 76 Latency 5716us 955us 3648us 10997us 400us 320= us 1.93c,1.93c,vader.e=E2=80=94station.com,1,1106164107,2G,,60,99,5483,6,4448,= 5,170,99,19045,12,129.8,13,5,,,,,7036,72,+++++,+++,9521,75,4877,50,+++++,++= +,9029,76,152ms,9726ms,7113ms,55161us,42746us,3598ms,5716us,955us,3648us,10= 997us,400us,320us Bonnie++ Test 3: 789 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1208K getblk 1:52 4.64% 4.64% bonnie+= + 789 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1208K getblk 1:52 2.49% 2.49% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP vader.e--station 3G 60 99 6184 7 3907 4 167 98 20993 14 99.3= 11 Latency 177ms 9312ms 15369ms 72183us 70690us 608= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- vader.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 7032 72 +++++ +++ 9667 77 7445 74 +++++ +++ 4197= 36 Latency 5855us 1682us 359us 8565us 11109us 11436= us 1.93c,1.93c,vader.e--station.com,1,1106166552,3G,,60,99,6184,7,3907,4,167,9= 8,20993,14,99.3,11,5,,,,,7032,72,+++++,+++,9667,77,7445,74,+++++,+++,4197,3= 6,177ms,9312ms,15369ms,72183us,70690us,608ms,5855us,1682us,359us,8565us,111= 09us,11436us DD Test1: $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 168.394218 secs (6376358 bytes/sec) 168.41 real 1.34 user 33.60 sys 168.41 / 60 =3D 2.806833333 DD Test 2: Top was:=20 - 575 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:13 17.30% 17.04% dd - 575 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:32 20.85% 20.85% dd $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out 2147483648 bytes transferred in 359.389723 secs (5975362 bytes/sec) 359.59 real 2.57 user 68.14 sys 359.59 / 60 =3D 5.993166667 DD Test 3: 661 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:06 20.86% 15.19% dd $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out 3221225472 bytes transferred in 520.399250 secs (6189912 bytes/sec) 520.60 real 4.06 user 102.48 sys 520.6 / 60 =3D 8.676666667 Fedora C3 With XFS: (minimal install) [root@localhost ~]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 34G 737M 33G 3% / /dev/sda1 92M 6.0M 86M 7% /boot none 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm Bonnie++ Test 1: [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 1G 8206 96 11876 13 5982 10 9375 95 24909 21 538.8= 4 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 652 13 +++++ +++ 600 14 622 14 +++++ +++ 365= 7 localhost.localdomain,1G,8206,96,11876,13,5982,10,9375,95,24909,21,538.8,4,= 5,652,13,+++++,+++,600,14,622,14,+++++,+++,365,7 Bonnie++ Test 2: [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 2G 7981 94 8794 9 6026 10 9535 97 25025 21 392.1= 3 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 635 13 +++++ +++ 587 14 574 13 +++++ +++ 388= 8 localhost.localdomain,2G,7981,94,8794,9,6026,10,9535,97,25025,21,392.1,3,5,= 635,13,+++++,+++,587,14,574,13,+++++,+++,388,8 Bonnie++ Test 3: 2745 root 25 0 4176 976 2300 R 99.9 0.2 3:34.49 bonnie++ [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 3G 7909 93 8053 8 3498 5 9328 95 24895 21 351.9= 3 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec= %CP 5 559 12 +++++ +++ 528 13 594 13 +++++ +++ 414= 9 localhost.localdomain,3G,7909,93,8053,8,3498,5,9328,95,24895,21,351.9,3,5,5= 59,12,+++++,+++,528,13,594,13,+++++,+++,414,9 DD Test 1: 2629 root 18 0 4632 472 3344 D 24.5 0.1 0:20.46 dd [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1= M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 1m39.842s user 0m4.404s sys 0m22.647s DD Test 2: 2669 root 18 0 4596 472 3344 D 20.5 0.1 0:07.93 dd [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2= M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 4m11.713s user 0m9.131s sys 0m46.951s DD Test 3: 2707 root 18 0 3832 472 3344 R 23.2 0.1 0:30.84 dd [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3= M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 6m52.182s user 0m13.450s sys 1m10.167s ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------- SC 400 Tests fc3 with xfs: [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1= M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 0m27.491s user 0m1.436s sys 0m6.888s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2= M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 1m3.194s user 0m2.847s sys 0m13.766s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3= M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 1m59.668s user 0m4.304s sys 0m20.673s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D7= M 7340032+0 records in 7340032+0 records out real 4m6.371s user 0m9.877s sys 0m49.454s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3= M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 1m35.411s user 0m4.495s sys 0m21.006s [root@localhost ~]# ls anaconda-ks.cfg install.log install.log.syslog tstfile copy test: (sc400) [root@localhost ~]# time cp tstfile tstfile2 real 3m22.202s user 0m1.320s sys 0m12.605s (pe2400) [root@localhost ~]# time cp tstfile tstfile2 real 11m6.046s user 0m1.091s sys 0m39.096s From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEB116A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:06:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9642343D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:06:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp helo=hexren.steenbuck.net) id 1CsTOZ-0000Yz-3Y; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:06:15 +0100 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:06:14 +0100 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1824785180.20050122230614@hexren.net> To: Mervin McDougall In-Reply-To: <20050122150540.16080.qmail@web30902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050122150540.16080.qmail@web30902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Re[8]: Connection via proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:06:17 -0000 MM> I seems that your network is not properbly configured. MM> Have you verified that the interface you wish to use MM> is up and has a MM> valid IP adress. Is the proxy in "your" subnet or do MM> you need to use a MM> gateway to reach it ? MM> Hexren MM> maybe consider posting your replies under the original MM> message as that MM> will make it so much easier to read the full message MM> ;) MM> _______________________________________________________ MM> I have verfied that the interface is up and running MM> ... but not sre if I connect via a subnet or a MM> gateway. Total noob to this so I am not sure how I can MM> verify. The only thing I got in my dorm is an RJ45 MM> socket outlet for connecting to the net. MM> the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the gateway is MM> 146.226.11.1 MM> Note: forwarded message attached. MM> __________________________________________________ MM> Do You Yahoo!? MM> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around MM> http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------- that is right it is up and running and has no ip address... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:15:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17F916A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:15:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gw6.metropolis-inter.com (mail-gw7.metropolis-inter.com [200.27.66.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F59B43D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:15:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@sofsis.cl) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on mail-gw6.metropolis-inter.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=8.0 tests=AWL,TW_RW,TW_WX autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter: Scanned X-VirusStatus: Scanned Received: from [200.30.193.8] (HELO mi.cl) by mail-gw6.metropolis-inter.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 5334857 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:15:17 -0300 X-AttachExt: vcf X-ExtScanner: Niversoft's FindAttachments (free) Received: from [200.74.66.227] (account asdasdasd@mi.cl HELO www.sofsis.cl) by mail2.mi.cl (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 9957251 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:15:05 -0300 Received: from [10.0.0.100] (pc-200-74-66-227.asturias1.pc.metropolis-inter.com [200.74.66.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by www.sofsis.cl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0MMHM1g026758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:17:28 -0300 (CLST) (envelope-from bob@sofsis.cl) Message-ID: <41F04E8A.4060101@sofsis.cl> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:36:26 +0000 From: Phillip Neumann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070008080108020907010506" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Ftpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:15:09 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070008080108020907010506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello.... I have problems to understand the way ftpd works. My goal is to create a ftp account where the user can download and upload files, and create directories where they could upload the files. But they should not remove nor rename any file or directory. 1) man chmod talks about a sticky flag. Ive try that. but: (ls -la on the server) drwxr-xr-t 4 usuarioftp usuarioftp 512 Jan 22 19:01 usuarioftp lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> rm test rm ok, `test' removed i dont want users to be able to delete any files... 2) I dont understand permitions... i.e. lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> ls root-file -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 22 19:12 root-file lftp usuarioftp@10.0.0.56:~> mv root-file why_can_i_do_this rename successful ps aux | grep ftp shows: usuarioftp 26747 1.0 0.3 1928 1404 ?? Ss 7:14PM 0:00.01 ftpd: 127.0.0.1: user/usuarioftp: LIST\r\n (ftpd) why can the ftp user rename the root file? how do i make users be able just to 1.- create directories 2.- upload files 3.- downlaod files thank you, -- _________________________ Phillip Neumann phillip@sofsis.cl www.sofsis.cl --------------070008080108020907010506-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:22:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C31E16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:22:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10D6643D39 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:22:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shadow333@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2005 22:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (62.218.246.180) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 23:22:12 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1027147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oliver Leitner Organization: none To: Phillip Neumann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:16:54 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <41F04E8A.4060101@sofsis.cl> In-Reply-To: <41F04E8A.4060101@sofsis.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Message-Id: <20050122222214.10D6643D39@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Ftpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:22:15 -0000 you might want to give proftpd a try... /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org they have quite a good documentation on it. this should cover both of your questions... Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at On Friday 21 January 2005 01:36, Phillip Neumann wrote: > Hello.... > > I have problems to understand the way ftpd works. > > My goal is to create a ftp account where the user can download and > upload files, and create directories where they could upload the files. > But they should not remove nor rename any file or directory. > > 1) > > man chmod talks about a sticky flag. > Ive try that. but: > > (ls -la on the server) > drwxr-xr-t 4 usuarioftp usuarioftp 512 Jan 22 19:01 usuarioftp > > > lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> rm test > rm ok, `test' removed > > i dont want users to be able to delete any files... > > 2) > > I dont understand permitions... > > i.e. > lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> ls root-file > -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 22 19:12 root-file > lftp usuarioftp@10.0.0.56:~> mv root-file why_can_i_do_this > rename successful > > ps aux | grep ftp shows: > > usuarioftp 26747 1.0 0.3 1928 1404 ?? Ss 7:14PM 0:00.01 ftpd: > 127.0.0.1: user/usuarioftp: LIST\r\n (ftpd) > > > > > > why can the ftp user rename the root file? > how do i make users be able just to > 1.- create directories > 2.- upload files > 3.- downlaod files > > > > thank you, > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:24:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92AF16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:24:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D55543D46 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:24:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 4E8BF2863D; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:24:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id C0B3E28635; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:24:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B199262A6; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0MMNotV074525; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Gerard Samuel In-Reply-To: <41F2B14D.8030609@trini0.org> Message-ID: <20050122232006.I2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl><41F2B14D.8030609@trini0.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: gabriel cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:24:02 -0000 On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: > gabriel wrote: > >> I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," >> > PORT STATE SERVICE > 9100/tcp open jetdirect <=== This One > > Jetdirect is HP's print server You mean the blackbox ("JetDirect") sold in better stores is essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Regards, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A7C16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:29:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D2543D1F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:29:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so122711wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:29:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MnuhCd/ebfWVSqCDn2FR/y9pr2aR5C52EZd0TQjm3HwwEtMYluFKQzptD+HcYCUrw6UHEx6FSuGYvf8uFlPiqNRjQA44zPb0BNienjbEq4n89zAxOeeY3DPIOtBGTjHyDIwm2xppQ9iVawYKmzii01kwiCGrwvaobScblTFPf2Y= Received: by 10.54.29.25 with SMTP id c25mr229199wrc; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:29:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:29:52 -0800 From: gabriel To: "Colin J. Raven" In-Reply-To: <20050122232006.I2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl> <41F2B14D.8030609@trini0.org> <20050122232006.I2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> cc: Gerard Samuel cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:29:54 -0000 heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives my dispair. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: > > > gabriel wrote: > > > >> I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," > >> > > PORT STATE SERVICE > > 9100/tcp open jetdirect <=== This One > > > > Jetdirect is HP's print server > > You mean the blackbox ("JetDirect") sold in better stores is essentially > existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? > > Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those > given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to function at > all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to > justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for > anyone who needs to print) > > Regards, > -Colin > > -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:35:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D8316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68EF343D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:35:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shadow333@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2005 22:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (62.218.246.180) by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 23:35:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1027147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oliver Leitner Organization: none To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20050122232006.I2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Message-Id: <20050122223506.68EF343D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:35:07 -0000 which printing queue manager are you using? is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box? does your printing queue manager recognize the printer? what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say? Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote: > heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I > cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and > the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives > my dispair. > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven > > wrote: > > On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: > > > gabriel wrote: > > >> I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," > > > > > > PORT STATE SERVICE > > > 9100/tcp open jetdirect <=== This One > > > > > > Jetdirect is HP's print server > > > > You mean the blackbox ("JetDirect") sold in better stores is essentially > > existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? > > > > Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those > > given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to function at > > all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to > > justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for > > anyone who needs to print) > > > > Regards, > > -Colin -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:39:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BEA16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:39:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mi.cl (mail-gw5.metropolis-inter.com [200.30.193.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335C843D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:38:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@sofsis.cl) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on mail-gw5.mi.cl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=8.0 tests=AWL autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.2 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter: Scanned Received: from [200.30.193.17] (HELO mi.cl) by mail-gw5.mi.cl (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 7692523; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:38:31 -0300 X-AttachExt: vcf X-ExtScanner: Niversoft's FindAttachments (free) Received: from [200.74.66.227] (account asdasdasd@mi.cl HELO www.sofsis.cl) by mail1.mi.cl (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 50963133; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:37:47 -0300 Received: from [10.0.0.100] (pc-200-74-66-227.asturias1.pc.metropolis-inter.com [200.74.66.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by www.sofsis.cl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0MMfFLY026871 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:41:18 -0300 (CLST) (envelope-from bob@sofsis.cl) Message-ID: <41F05424.4000107@sofsis.cl> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:00:20 +0000 From: Phillip Neumann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Leitner References: <41F04E8A.4060101@sofsis.cl> <200501222224.j0MMOu6N026800@www.sofsis.cl> In-Reply-To: <200501222224.j0MMOu6N026800@www.sofsis.cl> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050207040805070300030507" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ftpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:39:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050207040805070300030507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok. But i dont would like to switch ftp deamon. I already have ftpd in production.... thanks, Oliver Leitner wrote: >you might want to give proftpd a try... > >/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd > >for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org >they have quite a good documentation on it. > >this should cover both of your questions... > >Greetings >Oliver Leitner >Technical Staff >http://www.shells.at > >On Friday 21 January 2005 01:36, Phillip Neumann wrote: > > >>Hello.... >> >>I have problems to understand the way ftpd works. >> >>My goal is to create a ftp account where the user can download and >>upload files, and create directories where they could upload the files. >>But they should not remove nor rename any file or directory. >> >>1) >> >>man chmod talks about a sticky flag. >>Ive try that. but: >> >>(ls -la on the server) >>drwxr-xr-t 4 usuarioftp usuarioftp 512 Jan 22 19:01 usuarioftp >> >> >>lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> rm test >>rm ok, `test' removed >> >>i dont want users to be able to delete any files... >> >>2) >> >>I dont understand permitions... >> >>i.e. >>lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> ls root-file >>-rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 22 19:12 root-file >>lftp usuarioftp@10.0.0.56:~> mv root-file why_can_i_do_this >>rename successful >> >>ps aux | grep ftp shows: >> >>usuarioftp 26747 1.0 0.3 1928 1404 ?? Ss 7:14PM 0:00.01 ftpd: >>127.0.0.1: user/usuarioftp: LIST\r\n (ftpd) >> >> >> >> >> >>why can the ftp user rename the root file? >>how do i make users be able just to >> 1.- create directories >> 2.- upload files >> 3.- downlaod files >> >> >> >>thank you, >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > -- _________________________ Phillip Neumann phillip@sofsis.cl www.sofsis.cl --------------050207040805070300030507-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:45:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C110016A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:45:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB00D43D2F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:45:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shadow333@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2005 22:45:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (62.218.246.180) by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 23:45:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1027147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oliver Leitner Organization: none To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:40:26 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <41F04E8A.4060101@sofsis.cl> <200501222224.j0MMOu6N026800@www.sofsis.cl> <41F05424.4000107@sofsis.cl> In-Reply-To: <41F05424.4000107@sofsis.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Message-Id: <20050122224538.EB00D43D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Ftpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:45:39 -0000 you might want to give proftpd a try... /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org they have quite a good documentation on it. this should cover both of your questions... Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at On Friday 21 January 2005 02:00, Phillip Neumann wrote: > Ok. > > But i dont would like to switch ftp deamon. I already have ftpd in > production.... > > > thanks, > > Oliver Leitner wrote: > >you might want to give proftpd a try... > > > >/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd > > > >for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org > >they have quite a good documentation on it. > > > >this should cover both of your questions... > > > >Greetings > >Oliver Leitner > >Technical Staff > >http://www.shells.at > > > >On Friday 21 January 2005 01:36, Phillip Neumann wrote: > >>Hello.... > >> > >>I have problems to understand the way ftpd works. > >> > >>My goal is to create a ftp account where the user can download and > >>upload files, and create directories where they could upload the files. > >>But they should not remove nor rename any file or directory. > >> > >>1) > >> > >>man chmod talks about a sticky flag. > >>Ive try that. but: > >> > >>(ls -la on the server) > >>drwxr-xr-t 4 usuarioftp usuarioftp 512 Jan 22 19:01 usuarioftp > >> > >> > >>lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> rm test > >>rm ok, `test' removed > >> > >>i dont want users to be able to delete any files... > >> > >>2) > >> > >>I dont understand permitions... > >> > >>i.e. > >>lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> ls root-file > >>-rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 22 19:12 root-file > >>lftp usuarioftp@10.0.0.56:~> mv root-file why_can_i_do_this > >>rename successful > >> > >>ps aux | grep ftp shows: > >> > >>usuarioftp 26747 1.0 0.3 1928 1404 ?? Ss 7:14PM 0:00.01 ftpd: > >>127.0.0.1: user/usuarioftp: LIST\r\n (ftpd) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>why can the ftp user rename the root file? > >>how do i make users be able just to > >> 1.- create directories > >> 2.- upload files > >> 3.- downlaod files > >> > >> > >> > >>thank you, > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 22:47:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5538D16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:47:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DE2C43D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:47:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shadow333@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2005 22:47:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (62.218.246.180) by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 23:47:06 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1027147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oliver Leitner Organization: none To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:41:58 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <41F04E8A.4060101@sofsis.cl> <200501222224.j0MMOu6N026800@www.sofsis.cl> <41F05424.4000107@sofsis.cl> In-Reply-To: <41F05424.4000107@sofsis.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Message-Id: <20050122224707.7DE2C43D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Ftpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:47:08 -0000 sorry for the last answer, i copied the wrong one.. I dont remember fully, since i havent used the native ftpd for the past 6 years... but from what i know, the ftpd is pretty limited, so if you dont find a patch or any kind of fix to include, i dont see another way to do it than switching to a somewhat more sophisticated product. shouldnt be that hard to replace in a production environment, just have it setup on an alternate port, and as soon as it does work to your wishes, you kill the ftpd process and start the proftpd one, should cause a downtime of max 10 secs... Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at On Friday 21 January 2005 02:00, you wrote: > Ok. > > But i dont would like to switch ftp deamon. I already have ftpd in > production.... > > > thanks, > > Oliver Leitner wrote: > >you might want to give proftpd a try... > > > >/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd > > > >for more info on proftpd you might wanna look on www.proftpd.org > >they have quite a good documentation on it. > > > >this should cover both of your questions... > > > >Greetings > >Oliver Leitner > >Technical Staff > >http://www.shells.at > > > >On Friday 21 January 2005 01:36, Phillip Neumann wrote: > >>Hello.... > >> > >>I have problems to understand the way ftpd works. > >> > >>My goal is to create a ftp account where the user can download and > >>upload files, and create directories where they could upload the files. > >>But they should not remove nor rename any file or directory. > >> > >>1) > >> > >>man chmod talks about a sticky flag. > >>Ive try that. but: > >> > >>(ls -la on the server) > >>drwxr-xr-t 4 usuarioftp usuarioftp 512 Jan 22 19:01 usuarioftp > >> > >> > >>lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> rm test > >>rm ok, `test' removed > >> > >>i dont want users to be able to delete any files... > >> > >>2) > >> > >>I dont understand permitions... > >> > >>i.e. > >>lftp usuarioftp@localhost:~> ls root-file > >>-rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Jan 22 19:12 root-file > >>lftp usuarioftp@10.0.0.56:~> mv root-file why_can_i_do_this > >>rename successful > >> > >>ps aux | grep ftp shows: > >> > >>usuarioftp 26747 1.0 0.3 1928 1404 ?? Ss 7:14PM 0:00.01 ftpd: > >>127.0.0.1: user/usuarioftp: LIST\r\n (ftpd) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>why can the ftp user rename the root file? > >>how do i make users be able just to > >> 1.- create directories > >> 2.- upload files > >> 3.- downlaod files > >> > >> > >> > >>thank you, > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:01:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DE316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:01:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A3A43D46 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:01:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1748EFD021; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:01:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F2DB2F.7080909@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:01:03 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lady Amalara References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Block X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:01:19 -0000 Lady Amalara wrote: > My Question is...how can I block my IP address so others won't see > it??? As the other responses suggest, your question is not really clear. I guess what you want is to make your host unreachable from the internet. You set up firewall rules that block all incoming packets, FreeBSD supports a number of different ones, ipfw, ipfilter and packetfilter - se the handbook. Note, once you have a connection - regardless of firewall - you can be discovered with arping provided that the pinging host is on the same physical network as you. Normally this is not a problem, and doesn't really matter if they can't connect anyway. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:10:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA74416A4D2 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:10:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF1343D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from frambozen (frambozen [192.168.1.9]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21777; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:10:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:10:28 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: "Colin J. Raven" In-Reply-To: <20050122232006.I2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: <20050122174524.E64974@frambozen.monochrome.org> References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl><41F2B14D.8030609@trini0.org> <20050122232006.I2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:10:29 -0000 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those > given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to function at > all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to > justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for > anyone who needs to print) Colin, Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer that's been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has a JetDirect card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from the online specs at www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP address? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in the thread, just had to point out the obvious. I don't use cups - cause it looks like a huge pig :^) - but lpr has served me well over the years. Under 5.3R, all I had to do was 4.5 things: 1) put lpd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf 1a) Run /usr/sbin/lpd as root, or reboot; your choice. 2) make the name 'snowball' resolve to the printer's IP (because I name printers after Devo songs). I used /etc/hosts, but you can run DNS locally if you prefer. 3) create an entry in /etc/printcap like so: lp|snow|snowball|lj|ps|HP ColorLaserJet 4550N:\ :sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:\ :mx#0:\ :lp=:rm=snowball:rp="auto": 4) create the directory /var/spool/output/lpd and chmod it to 755. This works fine for printing from Mozilla and Acrobat, as well as 'lpr somefile' type stuff. Hope this helps. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:12:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD45C16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:12:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDFB43D39 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:12:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so124550wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:12:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GhXJg0klLd09ibise1NWC/EmiRiU0iHHFFcI8Q7pnwQarkPaPCqKDYTMfxnLOj3QbSEiu1uB296eKejZquLeS3lF5+HR7jPNJzepADGz/TVlBrlAHqM276G0skE2hxBm6rDgHxNMmlPjySPJ1cWDDO1YpvJwhcbKAKHgdTfCcZM= Received: by 10.54.3.74 with SMTP id 74mr249956wrc; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:12:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:12:16 -0800 From: gabriel To: Oliver Leitner In-Reply-To: <20050122223506.68EF343D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050122232006.I2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050122223506.68EF343D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:12:35 -0000 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner wrote: > which printing queue manager are you using? Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer. > is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box? It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http. > does your printing queue manager recognize the printer? It appears so, as when a "print test page" is done, the printer activates, but nothing further. > what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say? These are the last couple of entries: E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3! E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! > > Greetings > Oliver Leitner > Technical Staff > http://www.shells.at Thanks! > On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote: > > heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I > > cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and > > the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives > > my dispair. > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven > > > > wrote: > > > On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: > > > > gabriel wrote: > > > >> I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," > > > > > > > > PORT STATE SERVICE > > > > 9100/tcp open jetdirect <=== This One > > > > > > > > Jetdirect is HP's print server > > > > > > You mean the blackbox ("JetDirect") sold in better stores is essentially > > > existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? > > > > > > Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those > > > given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to function at > > > all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to > > > justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for > > > anyone who needs to print) > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Colin > > -- > By reading this mail you agree to the following: > > using or giving out the email address and any > other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. > By acting against this agreement the author of this mail > will take possible legal actions against the abuse. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:18:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5481216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:18:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC5B43D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:18:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 86C462841E; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:18:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id E94692841C; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:18:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88A962A6; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:18:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0MNINlX075112; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:18:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:18:23 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Chris Hill In-Reply-To: <20050122174524.E64974@frambozen.monochrome.org> Message-ID: <20050123001658.T2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl><41F2B14D.8030609@trini0.org> <20050122174524.E64974@frambozen.monochrome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:18:35 -0000 On Jan 22 at 18:10, Chris Hill launched this into the bitstream: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those >> given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to function at >> all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to >> justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for >> anyone who needs to print) > > Colin, > > Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer that's > been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has a JetDirect > card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from the online specs at > www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP address? I apologize if this > has been answered earlier in the thread, just had to point out the obvious. > Chris, the printer has no JetDirect card, I only wish it had. Thanks for the response!! -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:21:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC1F16A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:21:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11EE843D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:21:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shadow333@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2005 23:21:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (62.218.246.180) by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 23 Jan 2005 00:21:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1027147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oliver Leitner Organization: none To: gabriel Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:16:44 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20050122223506.68EF343D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Message-Id: <20050122232155.11EE843D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:21:56 -0000 I did a search on google for that error, and i might have found something that you may wanna try: cp /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter please tell me if it works=) Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at On Sunday 23 January 2005 00:12, gabriel wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner wrote: > > which printing queue manager are you using? > > Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer. > > > is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd > > box? > > It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http. > > > does your printing queue manager recognize the printer? > > It appears so, as when a "print test page" is done, the printer > activates, but nothing further. > > > what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say? > > These are the last couple of entries: > E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted > - no files! > E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3! > E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted > - no files! > > > Greetings > > Oliver Leitner > > Technical Staff > > http://www.shells.at > > Thanks! > > > On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote: > > > heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I > > > cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and > > > the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives > > > my dispair. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven > > > > > > wrote: > > > > On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: > > > > > gabriel wrote: > > > > >> I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," > > > > > > > > > > PORT STATE SERVICE > > > > > 9100/tcp open jetdirect <=== This One > > > > > > > > > > Jetdirect is HP's print server > > > > > > > > You mean the blackbox ("JetDirect") sold in better stores is > > > > essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? > > > > > > > > Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of > > > > those given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to > > > > function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end > > > > didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up > > > > 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > -Colin > > > > -- > > By reading this mail you agree to the following: > > > > using or giving out the email address and any > > other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. > > By acting against this agreement the author of this mail > > will take possible legal actions against the abuse. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:30:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327F216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:30:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F14F43D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:30:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so125144wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:30:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=JRYhHPv4XNJg5f/CuPL22fdsmNY74Y0BuXrAY8YjmG+GSdDSbrdKFFMEnPQzG/KklsBOYTaV9sRt46RWJOIYAB8l0S6W6TqqsohSWGzLV790e8DAKRq9nSi24sqQx5DbCCtphrEkuQwxcJBLGmY8SaPwrIffJp1pbN/dI9+fZKc= Received: by 10.54.54.39 with SMTP id c39mr6251wra; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:29:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:29:41 -0800 From: gabriel To: Oliver Leitner In-Reply-To: <-4647528863771150549@unknownmsgid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050122223506.68EF343D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <-4647528863771150549@unknownmsgid> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:30:13 -0000 Nope, nothing. :\ On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:16:44 +0100, Oliver Leitner wrote: > I did a search on google for that error, and i might have found something > that you may wanna try: > > cp /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter > > please tell me if it works=) > > Greetings > Oliver Leitner > Technical Staff > http://www.shells.at > > On Sunday 23 January 2005 00:12, gabriel wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner wrote: > > > which printing queue manager are you using? > > > > Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer. > > > > > is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd > > > box? > > > > It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http. > > > > > does your printing queue manager recognize the printer? > > > > It appears so, as when a "print test page" is done, the printer > > activates, but nothing further. > > > > > what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say? > > > > These are the last couple of entries: > > E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted > > - no files! > > E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3! > > E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted > > - no files! > > > > > Greetings > > > Oliver Leitner > > > Technical Staff > > > http://www.shells.at > > > > Thanks! > > > > > On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote: > > > > heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I > > > > cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and > > > > the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives > > > > my dispair. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: > > > > > > gabriel wrote: > > > > > >> I'm not sure what you mean by "try the jetdirect," > > > > > > > > > > > > PORT STATE SERVICE > > > > > > 9100/tcp open jetdirect <=== This One > > > > > > > > > > > > Jetdirect is HP's print server > > > > > > > > > > You mean the blackbox ("JetDirect") sold in better stores is > > > > > essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? > > > > > > > > > > Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of > > > > > those given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to > > > > > function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end > > > > > didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up > > > > > 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > -Colin > > > > > > -- > > > By reading this mail you agree to the following: > > > > > > using or giving out the email address and any > > > other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. > > > By acting against this agreement the author of this mail > > > will take possible legal actions against the abuse. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > By reading this mail you agree to the following: > > using or giving out the email address and any > other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. > By acting against this agreement the author of this mail > will take possible legal actions against the abuse. > -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:33:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E6916A4CF for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:33:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E53543D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:33:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from normal1.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so125253wri for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:33:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=rW3qWYgi/h3g7ncND+D6ysMpTalmB2Nob3bvlOCkb0enoFxOkd2Afyflo8PZBmN9j/qdFWrsQWQWWa9ewdUFrIU6n2/1tbe+rGGmkU3KCQl3ytgwloJuXPwyvhgPY5MOKQ6v3gxre9JBAF1HgRO18iPz72tKHDlf/4pGxaRYK88= Received: by 10.54.42.43 with SMTP id p43mr10589wrp; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.67 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:33:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:33:05 -0800 From: gabriel To: Chris Hill In-Reply-To: <20050122174524.E64974@frambozen.monochrome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41F2A87C.4060409@scii.nl> <41F2B14D.8030609@trini0.org> <20050122232006.I2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050122174524.E64974@frambozen.monochrome.org> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:33:39 -0000 You know, mine has an ethernet card, I tried it and checked /var/spool/output/lpd in "status" and it says "waiting for hpprinter to come up" - which is the sad part cause its already up. Thanks for the tip to the list though! On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:10:28 -0500 (EST), Chris Hill wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those > > given that I could *not* get my "all-in-one" HP psc2105 to function at > > all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to > > justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for > > anyone who needs to print) > > Colin, > > Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer > that's been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has > a JetDirect card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from > the online specs at www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP > address? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in the thread, > just had to point out the obvious. > > I don't use cups - cause it looks like a huge pig :^) - but lpr has > served me well over the years. Under 5.3R, all I had to do was 4.5 > things: > > 1) put > lpd_enable="YES" > in /etc/rc.conf > > 1a) Run /usr/sbin/lpd as root, or reboot; your choice. > > 2) make the name 'snowball' resolve to the printer's IP (because I name > printers after Devo songs). I used /etc/hosts, but you can run DNS > locally if you prefer. > > 3) create an entry in /etc/printcap like so: > lp|snow|snowball|lj|ps|HP ColorLaserJet 4550N:\ > :sh:\ > :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:\ > :mx#0:\ > :lp=:rm=snowball:rp="auto": > > 4) create the directory /var/spool/output/lpd and chmod it to 755. > > This works fine for printing from Mozilla and Acrobat, as well as 'lpr > somefile' type stuff. > > Hope this helps. > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2284316A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:36:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B290143D31 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:36:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.176]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E57B192166 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.36]) [66.133.131.176]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25651-03-20 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-237-141.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.237.141]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F0219215A for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819653BF39E for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:36:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41F2E38A.8080803@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:36:42 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <41ED86F4.1080301@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <41ED86F4.1080301@mykitchentable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: Help Interpreting sbp0 Errors (Was Re: One Last Plea For Vinum Assistance) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:36:47 -0000 I've been having problems with vinum volumes since an upgrade from 4.9 to 4.10. However maybe that is the *symptom* instead of the *problem*. I shut down my system from the console and saw this output: --- BEGIN --- boot() called on cpu#0 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... 4 done Uptime: 28d20h48m39s sbp0:0:0 request timeout(mgm orb:0x0a550b14) ... reset start sbp0:0:0 request timeout(cmd orb:0x0a550c4c) ... agent reset (da2:sbp0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0xb, scsi status == 0x0 sbp0:0:1 request timeout(cmd orb:0x0a5528a4) ... agent reset (da3:sbp0:0:0:1): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0xb, scsi status == 0x0 The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. --- END --- da2 and da3 are two IDE drives in a firewire enclosure. These are also the drives that come up "referenced" after restarting. What do these errors mean? How can I correct them? Is the following section from the sbp man page applicable to my situation? Some (broken) HDDs don't work well with tagged queuing. If you have prob- lems with such drives, try ``camcontrol [device id] tags -N 1'' to dis- able tagged queuing. Thanks for your help! Drew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:37:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5B416A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:37:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.cegetel.net (mf00.sitadelle.com [212.94.174.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171BA43D1D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:37:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregory.nou@supelec.fr) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (80-125-193-152.dti.cegetel.net [80.125.193.152]) by smtp.cegetel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8567351 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:37:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F2E3A0.1040103@supelec.fr> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:37:04 +0100 From: Gregory Nou User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: A stupid thing I've done... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gregory.nou@metz.supelec.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:37:07 -0000 Hi ! I've tried to chroot an user, so i create /home/this_user/usr and the other needed directories, but later, I wanted to delete them (as root of course) and i typed rm -r /usr instead of rm -r usr ... It asked me if i wanted to overwrite su, so i saw my mistake, and cancelled, but i don't have adduser, man, ee and ... make anymore ! How can I repair that ? can i do something without reinstalling everything ? (I need at least make... and I'm quite reluctant at compiling /usr/src/usr.bin/make ... So i hope there is another way) Thanks a lot ... -- Grégory Nou From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:48:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8EF16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:48:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BF443D48 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:48:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so36620rnz for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:48:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hz9N4yFtZjf7xwJ/IC1419LcKkNHdqjz+5fVqg3XA2hepel6EjOWi8FSO9Kk0LBt0FsDCEhzm+YHyPg2UQ4h65I7khbkahVMw/vbUoL9JaJ1/M1z+5UqUamEVaVsvscIUZ/5kgCuJFwUo8EYRTkXXZeFgYEoyzXCLT6bwFHyTvE= Received: by 10.38.8.49 with SMTP id 49mr180641rnh; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.43 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:48:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:48:20 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | More Info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:48:22 -0000 I apologize if this has been posted twice.=20 All, This post is not about BSD VS. Linux and should not be taken that way. I think that "Flame Wars/Engineer Wars" are waste of time and energy. I was surprised by my test results and didn't want to take FBSD out of the loop just yet. There may be flaws in my testing that have led me to inaccurate results. I didn't share the testing details in the original mail because of time constraints, and the notes are fairly lengthy. I will add my notes to this mail so that there is a better understanding of what tests I performed, and their results. It's important to note that I did not tweak any of the default settings of the OS or DB. The notes should be generally self explanatory, but will be more that happy to clarify any questions that you have. As a side note, I chose the email address linicks because by name is Nick, and thought it was a fun play on words. I appreciate all of your feedback, so that I can better understand the differences in these great operating systems and communities. Thanks Again! --Nick Pavlica "OK, The testing notes already" :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------ Hardware Configs: Dell PE 2400 - Dual PIII 500Mhz - 512Mb Ram - Perc 2si controller - (2) 10k ultra160 drives in a raid 1 configuration. Dell SC400 - P4 2.4 Ghz (not hyperthreaded) - 512Mb Ram - Stock 40Gb IDE 7200RPM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- Postgresql Test Scripts: CREATE TABLE test1 ( thedate TIMESTAMP, astring VARCHAR(200), anumber INTEGER ); CREATE FUNCTION build_data() RETURNS integer AS ' DECLARE i INTEGER DEFAULT 0; curtime TIMESTAMP; BEGIN FOR i IN 1..1000000 LOOP curtime :=3D ''now''; INSERT INTO test1 VALUES (curtime, ''test string'', i); END LOOP; RETURN 1; END; ' LANGUAGE 'plpgsql'; SELECT build_data(); Then the following script is run under the time program to ascertain how long it takes to run: CREATE TABLE test2 ( thedate TIMESTAMP, astring VARCHAR(200), anumber INTEGER ); CREATE TABLE test3 AS SELECT * FROM test1; INSERT INTO test2 SELECT * FROM test1 WHERE ((anumber % 2) =3D 0); DELETE FROM test3 WHERE ((anumber % 2) =3D 0); DELETE FROM test3 WHERE ((anumber % 13) =3D 0); CREATE TABLE test4 AS SELECT test1.thedate AS t1date, test2.thedate AS t2date, test1.astring AS t1string, test2.astring AS t2string, test1.anumber AS t1number, test2.anumber AS t2number FROM test1 JOIN test2 ON test1.anumber=3Dtest2.anumber; UPDATE test3 SET thedate=3D'now' WHERE ((anumber % 5) =3D 0); DROP TABLE test4; CREATE TABLE test4 AS SELECT * FROM test1; DELETE FROM test4 WHERE ((anumber % 27) =3D 0); VACUUM ANALYZE; VACUUM FULL; DROP TABLE test4; DROP TABLE test3; DROP TABLE test2; VACUUM FULL; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------- sc400 freeBSD5: $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 71.807645 secs (14953029 bytes/sec) 71.82real 0.68 user 8.83 sys 71.82 / 60 =3D 1.197 -- 517 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:02 12.35% 5.91% dd 517 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:13 12.48% 12.35% dd $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out 2147483648 bytes transferred in 136.815925 secs (15696153 bytes/sec) 136.85 real 1.29 user 17.49 sys 136.85 / 60 =3D 2.280833333 -- 542 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:19 13.35% 13.33% dd 542 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:24 12.99% 12.99% dd $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out 3221225472 bytes transferred in 205.722425 secs (15658115 bytes/sec) 205.72 real 1.82 user 27.39 sys 205.72 / 60 =3D 3.428666667 copy test: 558 nick.pavlica -4 0 1272K 680K getblk 0:01 2.30% 1.32% cp 558 nick.pavlica -4 0 1272K 680K getblk 0:02 1.80% 1.71% cp 558 nick.pavlica -4 0 1272K 680K getblk 0:03 1.87% 1.86% cp $ time cp tstfile tstfile2 579.31 real 0.03 user 14.61 sys 579.31 / 60 =3D 9.655166667 (FreeBSD 5.3+ on SC400) b test 1: 535 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1216K getblk 0:17 2.84% 2.83% bonnie+= + 568 nick.pavlica 105 0 2380K 1196K RUN 0:09 92.99% 36.62% bonnie+= + 568 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1192K wdrain 0:14 12.35% 11.23% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP sc400.e--station 1G 257 99 15135 5 10033 3 508 99 45572 10 124.3= 5 Latency 33802us 161ms 467ms 32560us 17190us 537= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- sc400.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ = +++ Latency 14891us 149us 226us 2671us 133us 1270= us 1.93c,1.93c,sc400.e--station.com,1,1106248340,1G,,257,99,15135,5,10033,3,50= 8,99, 45572,10,124.3,5,5,,,,,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,++= +++,+ ++,33802us,161ms,467ms,32560us,17190us,537ms,14891us,149us,226us,2671us,133= us,12 70us B Test 2: 712 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1212K wdrain 0:12 53.78% 33.01% bonnie+= + 712 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1208K wdrain 0:17 4.90% 4.88% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP sc400.e--station 2G 260 99 14394 5 9512 3 505 99 42976 9 94.7= 4 Latency 32809us 284ms 470ms 30153us 15074us 3564= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- sc400.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ = +++ Latency 6772us 1452us 175us 3964us 114us 46821= us 1.93c,1.93c,sc400.e=E2=80=94station.com,1,1106252670,2G,,260,99,14394,5,951= 2,3,505,99,42976,9,94.7,4,5,,,,,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++= ++,+++,+++++,+++,32809us,284ms,470ms,30153us,15074us,3564ms,6772us,1452us,1= 75us,3964us,114us,46821us Test 3: 754 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1208K wdrain 0:13 26.89% 20.90% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP sc400.e--station 3G 259 99 14484 5 9671 3 507 99 40714 9 77.7= 3 Latency 33254us 569ms 591ms 36025us 22245us 936= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- sc400.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ = +++ Latency 13993us 154us 120us 20243us 555us 72= us 1.93c,1.93c,sc400.e=E2=80=94station.com,1,1106253537,3G,,259,99,14484,5,967= 1,3,507,99,40714,9,77.7,3,5,,,,,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++= ++,+++,+++++,+++,33254us,569ms,591ms,36025us,22245us,936ms,13993us,154us,12= 0us,20243us,555us,72us (PG Performance Test) 2039 pgsql -4 0 16328K 11984K getblk 0:04 19.92% 12.60% postgr= es 2039 pgsql -8 0 16344K 12024K biord 0:11 18.51% 17.14% postgr= es $ time psql -d perftst -f ptst.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM 304.00 real 0.00 user 0.00 sys 304.00/60 =3D 5.066666667 2077 pgsql -8 0 28168K 15640K biord 0:38 12.01% 12.01% postgr= es 2077 pgsql -4 0 28168K 15812K semwai 0:40 10.16% 10.16% postgr= es $ time psql -d perftst -f ptst.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM 307.97 real 0.00 user 0.00 sys 307.97/60=3D5.132833333 2113 pgsql -4 0 19960K 15296K ufs 0:30 15.97% 15.97% postgr= es 2113 pgsql -16 0 28168K 19280K wdrain 0:37 12.70% 12.70% postgr= es $ time psql -d perftst -f ptst.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM 304.89 real 0.00 user 0.00 sys 304.89/60=3D5.0815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- Fedora C3 EXT3 [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1= M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 0m24.270s user 0m0.736s sys 0m5.528s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2= M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 0m53.607s user 0m1.432s sys 0m11.306s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3= M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 1m16.598s user 0m2.133s sys 0m16.794s Copy Test: [root@localhost ~]# time cp tstfile tstfile2 real 2m32.022s user 0m0.528s sys 0m12.417s Bonnie Tests: bonnie++ -u root -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 1G 24983 72 49013 14 21798 5 21618 58 52864 6 137.5= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ = +++ localhost.localdomain,1G,24983,72,49013,14,21798,5,21618,58,52864,6,137.5,0= ,5,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++ bonnie++ -u root -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 2G 30392 88 35467 10 16794 4 21350 57 40749 4 92.0= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ = +++ localhost.localdomain,2G,30392,88,35467,10,16794,4,21350,57,40749,4,92.0,0,= 5,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++ [root@localhost ~]# bonnie++ -u root -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 3G 30940 90 36972 10 18177 4 22040 60 44367 4 85.7= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ +++ +++++ = +++ localhost.localdomain,3G,30940,90,36972,10,18177,4,22040,60,44367,4,85.7,0,= 5,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,+++++,+++ 5513 postgres 18 0 20448 11m 10m D 13.0 4.6 0:01.37 postmaster 5513 postgres 19 0 20448 11m 10m D 13.3 4.6 0:02.97 postmaster 5513 postgres 18 0 20448 11m 10m D 35.6 4.7 0:08.26 postmaster 5513 postgres 18 0 21900 13m 11m D 39.0 5.3 0:20.90 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 4m20.061s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.003s bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m59.877s user 0m0.004s sys 0m0.007s 26307 postgres 18 0 21684 14m 11m R 8.0 5.7 0:39.30 postmaster 26307 postgres 18 0 21684 14m 11m R 20.3 5.7 0:43.37 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m29.036s user 0m0.002s sys 0m0.012s 26317 postgres 18 0 20472 10m 9.8m D 45.3 4.3 0:10.53 postmaster 26317 postgres 18 0 22500 12m 9.9m D 28.3 5.1 0:24.92 postmaster 26317 postgres 18 0 25580 16m 11m R 28.3 6.6 0:42.54 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m30.825s user 0m0.001s sys 0m0.009s 26323 postgres 18 0 20448 10m 10m R 46.9 4.4 0:36.98 postmaster 26323 postgres 16 0 31100 21m 10m R 48.9 8.6 3:41.24 postmaster 26323 postgres 16 0 29088 19m 10m R 26.6 7.9 5:19.27 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 3000000 DELETE 3000000 DELETE 230772 SELECT UPDATE 553848 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 222222 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 24m55.547s user 0m0.008s sys 0m0.005s bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst.sql thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 894455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 75455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 444455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 7555 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 5 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 4455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 111155 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 33355 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 998455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 22:26:39.057576 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:44:37.486004 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:45:12.67617 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:47:07.218733 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:48:31.5945 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 22:50:42.391373 | test string | 8455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) real 3m13.732s user 0m0.005s sys 0m0.004s ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------- SC400 FC3 With XFS: 4665 root 18 0 4380 468 404 D 21.6 0.2 0:02.43 dd [root@localhost tmp]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count= =3D1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 0m22.676s user 0m0.663s sys 0m3.494s 4667 root 19 0 3672 468 404 R 8.7 0.2 0:00.26 dd [root@localhost tmp]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count= =3D2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 0m46.277s user 0m1.214s sys 0m7.141s 4674 root 25 0 4532 468 404 R 13.6 0.2 0:02.34 dd 4674 root 18 0 4532 468 404 D 17.6 0.2 0:05.52 dd [root@localhost tmp]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count= =3D3M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 1m12.727s user 0m1.884s sys 0m10.573s copy tests: 4744 root 18 0 3940 620 540 D 9.3 0.2 0:00.73 cp 4744 root 18 0 3940 620 540 R 9.3 0.2 0:01.78 cp 4744 root 18 0 3940 620 540 R 4.0 0.2 0:06.62 cp [root@localhost tmp]# time cp tstfile tstfile2 real 2m22.101s user 0m0.500s sys 0m8.178s bonnie tests: [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 1G 33376 97 48548 7 20451 4 25233 69 47488 5 154.7= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 3724 17 +++++ +++ 3828 17 2957 14 +++++ +++ 2290 = 10 localhost.localdomain,1G,33376,97,48548,7,20451,4,25233,69,47488,5,154.7,0,= 5,3724,17,+++++,+++,3828,17,2957,14,+++++,+++,2290,10 4747 root 23 0 3004 976 840 R 88.9 0.4 1:56.32 bonnie++ 4747 root 18 0 2996 968 840 R 7.0 0.4 2:09.53 bonnie++ 4751 root 17 0 2996 980 844 D 0.3 0.4 0:00.02 bonnie++ [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 2G 32988 97 47779 6 21777 5 26410 74 49463 6 130.0= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 3145 15 +++++ +++ 3641 15 3299 17 +++++ +++ 2037 = 9 localhost.localdomain,2G,32988,97,47779,6,21777,5,26410,74,49463,6,130.0,0,= 5,3145,15,+++++,+++,3641,15,3299,17,+++++,+++,2037,9 4788 root 25 0 3120 968 840 R 97.9 0.4 0:19.11 bonnie++ 4788 root 25 0 3124 972 840 R 97.6 0.4 0:42.54 bonnie++ 4788 root 25 0 3116 968 840 D 6.7 0.4 1:37.18 bonnie++ [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 3G 32331 97 47200 6 21836 5 26740 75 49292 6 125.9= 0 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 3215 14 +++++ +++ 3360 14 3036 15 +++++ +++ 1856 = 8 localhost.localdomain,3G,32331,97,47200,6,21836,5,26740,75,49292,6,125.9,0,= 5,3215,14,+++++,+++,3360,14,3036,15,+++++,+++,1856,8 5024 postgres 18 0 20116 11m 10m R 68.6 4.6 0:05.75 postmaster 5024 postgres 18 0 21288 12m 10m D 45.3 5.1 0:13.88 postmaster 4950 postgres 15 0 19572 10m 9828 D 1.0 4.0 0:00.13 postmaster 024 postgres 18 0 21568 12m 10m R 60.9 5.1 0:21.99 postmaster 5024 postgres 19 0 20176 11m 10m R 51.9 4.7 0:34.02 postmaster -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m9.088s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.005s 5026 postgres 18 0 21392 13m 11m D 45.9 5.3 0:23.92 postmaster 5026 postgres 18 0 21392 13m 11m D 44.3 5.3 0:28.45 postmaster 5026 postgres 18 0 37780 17m 11m R 10.7 7.1 0:34.22 postmaster 5026 postgres 18 0 21392 14m 11m D 13.0 5.7 0:37.30 postmaster -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 3m22.001s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.009s -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m17.877s user 0m0.003s sys 0m0.006s 26432 postgres 18 0 20140 10m 9764 R 46.6 4.2 0:03.92 postmaster bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m17.666s user 0m0.003s sys 0m0.006s 26440 postgres 18 0 22160 13m 10m D 50.3 5.2 0:23.60 postmaster 26440 postgres 18 0 37820 17m 11m R 9.3 6.9 0:34.46 postmaster -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 500000 DELETE 500000 DELETE 38462 SELECT UPDATE 92308 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 37037 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 2m19.578s user 0m0.005s sys 0m0.010s (6 Million Rows) 26445 postgres 19 0 20116 10m 10m R 58.9 4.3 0:03.32 postmaster 26445 postgres 19 0 20116 10m 10m R 51.6 4.4 0:18.37 postmaster 26445 postgres 18 0 31764 22m 10m D 9.3 8.9 1:33.57 postmaster 26445 postgres 18 0 45076 36m 11m R 8.3 14.7 5:21.49 postmaster -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst1.sql CREATE TABLE SELECT INSERT 0 3000000 DELETE 3000000 DELETE 230772 SELECT UPDATE 553848 DROP TABLE SELECT DELETE 222222 VACUUM VACUUM DROP TABLE DROP TABLE DROP TABLE VACUUM real 21m15.074s user 0m0.003s sys 0m0.007s (tst.sql) select * from test1 where anumber=3D894455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D75455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D444455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D7594455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D7511455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D7555; select * from test1 where anumber=3D5; select * from test1 where anumber=3D4455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D111155; select * from test1 where anumber=3D33355; select * from test1 where anumber=3D998455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D8455; select * from test1 where anumber=3D22754455; ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -bash-3.00$ time psql -d perftst -f tst.sql thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 894455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 894455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 75455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 75455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 444455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 444455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 7555 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 7555 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 5 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 5 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 4455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 4455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 111155 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 111155 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 33355 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 33355 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 998455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 998455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ----------------------------+-------------+--------- 2005-01-20 18:45:25.058853 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:10:26.609873 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:12:06.125588 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:12:47.447711 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:15:21.224914 | test string | 8455 2005-01-20 19:16:12.809133 | test string | 8455 (6 rows) thedate | astring | anumber ---------+---------+--------- (0 rows) real 2m31.883s user 0m0.002s sys 0m0.005s ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------ Various Notes: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------ 1/18/05 PE 2400 bonnie++ Test with ext3: Top Output: 3911 root 25 0 3072 964 840 R 98.4 0.2 1:21.21 bonnie++ Bonnie++ Test1: [root@es1 npavlica]# bonnie++ -u root -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP es1.estation.com 1G 7469 91 9881 15 4846 6 9073 90 21034 15 362.4= 2 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 7962 90 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ 8874 99 +++++ +++ 8803 = 69 es1.estation.com,1G,7469,91,9881,15,4846,6,9073,90,21034,15,362.4,2,5,7962,= 90,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,8874,99,+++++,+++,8803,69 Bonnie++ Test 2: [root@es1 npavlica]# bonnie++ -u root -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP es1.estation.com 2G 7208 88 8042 12 4652 6 8916 96 19611 14 252.9= 2 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 8075 92 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ 6731 75 +++++ +++ +++++ = +++ es1.estation.com,2G,7208,88,8042,12,4652,6,8916,96,19611,14,252.9,2,5,8075,= 92,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,6731,75,+++++,+++,+++++,+++ Bonnie++ Test 3: [root@es1 npavlica]# bonnie++ -u root -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP es1.estation.com 3G 6995 85 7921 12 4723 6 9728 96 20919 15 218.5= 1 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 7840 90 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ 8852 100 +++++ +++ 9220 = 72 es1.estation.com,3G,6995,85,7921,12,4723,6,9728,96,20919,15,218.5,1,5,7840,= 90,+++++,+++,+++++,+++,8852,100,+++++,+++,9220,72 DD Test 1: [root@es1 npavlica]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D= 1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 2m14.152s user 0m1.649s sys 0m29.622s DD Test 2: [root@es1 npavlica]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D= 1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 2m14.152s user 0m1.649s sys 0m29.622s [root@es1 npavlica]# rm tstfile rm: remove regular file `tstfile'? y [root@es1 npavlica]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D= 2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 4m7.145s user 0m3.152s sys 1m0.303s DD Test 3: [root@es1 npavlica]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D= 3M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 6m40.592s user 0m4.751s sys 1m31.968s FreeBSD5.3 I/O Tests: Partition Layout / Utilization: $ df -h Files ystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/aacd0s1a 248M 35M 193M 15% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/aacd0s1e 248M 6.0K 228M 0% /tmp /dev/aacd0s1f 31G 1.8G 27G 6% /usr /dev/aacd0s1d 248M 2.6M 225M 1% /var Bonnie++ Test 1: 715 nick.pavlica 97 0 2380K 1324K RUN 0:53 21.12% 20.85% bonnie= ++ $ bonnie++ -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done.535 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1216K getblk 0:17 2.84% 2.83% bonnie++ Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP vader.e--station 1G 60 99 6351 7 4169 5 170 99 20904 13 200.7= 19 Latency 190ms 6458ms 10221ms 57902us 33802us 423= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- vader.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 5647 59 +++++ +++ 9412 74 5757 56 +++++ +++ 5291 = 45 Latency 9741us 917us 315us 225ms 875us 11165= us 1.93c,1.93c,vader.e=E2=80=94station.com,1,1106164339,1G,,60,99,6351,7,4169,= 5,170,99,20904,13,200.7,19,5,,,,,5647,59,+++++,+++,9412,74,5757,56,+++++,++= +,5291,45,190ms,6458ms,10221ms,57902us,33802us,423ms,9741us,917us,315us,225= ms,875us,11165us Bonnie++ Test 2: 745 nick.pavlica -16 0 2380K 1200K wdrain 0:58 7.03% 7.03% bonnie+= + 745 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1200K getblk 1:21 5.57% 5.57% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP vader.e--station 2G 60 99 5483 6 4448 5 170 99 19045 12 129.8= 13 Latency 152ms 9726ms 7113ms 55161us 42746us 3598= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- vader.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 7036 72 +++++ +++ 9521 75 4877 50 +++++ +++ 9029 = 76 Latency 5716us 955us 3648us 10997us 400us 320= us 1.93c,1.93c,vader.e=E2=80=94station.com,1,1106164107,2G,,60,99,5483,6,4448,= 5,170,99,19045,12,129.8,13,5,,,,,7036,72,+++++,+++,9521,75,4877,50,+++++,++= +,9029,76,152ms,9726ms,7113ms,55161us,42746us,3598ms,5716us,955us,3648us,10= 997us,400us,320us Bonnie++ Test 3: 789 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1208K getblk 1:52 4.64% 4.64% bonnie+= + 789 nick.pavlica -4 0 2380K 1208K getblk 1:52 2.49% 2.49% bonnie+= + $ bonnie++ -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 Writing a byte at a time...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading a byte at a time...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --See= ks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP vader.e--station 3G 60 99 6184 7 3907 4 167 98 20993 14 99.3= 11 Latency 177ms 9312ms 15369ms 72183us 70690us 608= ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create----= ---- vader.e--station.co -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Dele= te-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 7032 72 +++++ +++ 9667 77 7445 74 +++++ +++ 4197 = 36 Latency 5855us 1682us 359us 8565us 11109us 11436= us 1.93c,1.93c,vader.e--station.com,1,1106166552,3G,,60,99,6184,7,3907,4,167,9= 8,20993,14,99.3,11,5,,,,,7032,72,+++++,+++,9667,77,7445,74,+++++,+++,4197,3= 6,177ms,9312ms,15369ms,72183us,70690us,608ms,5855us,1682us,359us,8565us,111= 09us,11436us DD Test1: $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 168.394218 secs (6376358 bytes/sec) 168.41 real 1.34 user 33.60 sys 168.41 / 60 =3D 2.806833333 DD Test 2: Top was: - 575 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:13 17.30% 17.04% dd - 575 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:32 20.85% 20.85% dd $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out 2147483648 bytes transferred in 359.389723 secs (5975362 bytes/sec) 359.59 real 2.57 user 68.14 sys 359.59 / 60 =3D 5.993166667 DD Test 3: 661 nick.pavlica -16 0 1212K 588K wdrain 0:06 20.86% 15.19% dd $ time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out 3221225472 bytes transferred in 520.399250 secs (6189912 bytes/sec) 520.60 real 4.06 user 102.48 sys 520.6 / 60 =3D 8.676666667 Fedora C3 With XFS: (minimal install) [root@localhost ~]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 34G 737M 33G 3% / /dev/sda1 92M 6.0M 86M 7% /boot none 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm Bonnie++ Test 1: [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 1024 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 1G 8206 96 11876 13 5982 10 9375 95 24909 21 538.8= 4 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 652 13 +++++ +++ 600 14 622 14 +++++ +++ 365 = 7 localhost.localdomain,1G,8206,96,11876,13,5982,10,9375,95,24909,21,538.8,4,= 5,652,13,+++++,+++,600,14,622,14,+++++,+++,365,7 Bonnie++ Test 2: [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 2048 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 2G 7981 94 8794 9 6026 10 9535 97 25025 21 392.1= 3 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 635 13 +++++ +++ 587 14 574 13 +++++ +++ 388 = 8 localhost.localdomain,2G,7981,94,8794,9,6026,10,9535,97,25025,21,392.1,3,5,= 635,13,+++++,+++,587,14,574,13,+++++,+++,388,8 Bonnie++ Test 3: 2745 root 25 0 4176 976 2300 R 99.9 0.2 3:34.49 bonnie++ [root@localhost tmp]# bonnie++ -u root -s 3072 -r 512 -n 5 -d /tmp Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Ran= dom- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seek= s-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec= %CP localhost.locald 3G 7909 93 8053 8 3498 5 9328 95 24895 21 351.9= 3 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-----= --- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delet= e-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec = %CP 5 559 12 +++++ +++ 528 13 594 13 +++++ +++ 414 = 9 localhost.localdomain,3G,7909,93,8053,8,3498,5,9328,95,24895,21,351.9,3,5,5= 59,12,+++++,+++,528,13,594,13,+++++,+++,414,9 DD Test 1: 2629 root 18 0 4632 472 3344 D 24.5 0.1 0:20.46 dd [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1= M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 1m39.842s user 0m4.404s sys 0m22.647s DD Test 2: 2669 root 18 0 4596 472 3344 D 20.5 0.1 0:07.93 dd [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2= M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 4m11.713s user 0m9.131s sys 0m46.951s DD Test 3: 2707 root 18 0 3832 472 3344 R 23.2 0.1 0:30.84 dd [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3= M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 6m52.182s user 0m13.450s sys 1m10.167s ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------- SC 400 Tests fc3 with xfs: [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D1= M 1048576+0 records in 1048576+0 records out real 0m27.491s user 0m1.436s sys 0m6.888s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D2= M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 1m3.194s user 0m2.847s sys 0m13.766s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3= M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 1m59.668s user 0m4.304s sys 0m20.673s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D7= M 7340032+0 records in 7340032+0 records out real 4m6.371s user 0m9.877s sys 0m49.454s [root@localhost ~]# time dd bs=3D1024 if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dtstfile count=3D3= M 3145728+0 records in 3145728+0 records out real 1m35.411s user 0m4.495s sys 0m21.006s [root@localhost ~]# ls anaconda-ks.cfg install.log install.log.syslog tstfile copy test: (sc400) [root@localhost ~]# time cp tstfile tstfile2 real 3m22.202s user 0m1.320s sys 0m12.605s (pe2400) [root@localhost ~]# time cp tstfile tstfile2 real 11m6.046s user 0m1.091s sys 0m39.096s From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 23:51:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6FB16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:51:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350B043D31 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:51:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A54FD020; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:51:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41F2E704.4050405@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:51:32 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gregory.nou@metz.supelec.fr References: <41F2E3A0.1040103@supelec.fr> In-Reply-To: <41F2E3A0.1040103@supelec.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A stupid thing I've done... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:51:37 -0000 Gregory Nou wrote: > I've tried to chroot an user, so i create /home/this_user/usr and the > other needed directories, but later, I wanted to delete them (as root of > course) and i typed rm -r /usr instead of rm -r usr ... > It asked me if i wanted to overwrite su, so i saw my mistake, and > cancelled, but i don't have adduser, man, ee and ... make anymore ! > How can I repair that ? can i do something without reinstalling > everything ? (I need at least make... and I'm quite reluctant at > compiling /usr/src/usr.bin/make ... So i hope there is another way) Not only do you need make, but also gcc and other utilities. I would consider /usr wiped, even if you still have "su". You might find relief in /rescue or /stand/sysinstall. You won't reinstall the whole system creating slices and labes and all that, but you will most likely need to reinstall a lot though. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2