From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:01:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081316A4E1 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD20A43D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so628048rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LL3hpRCXXT1ozhJSzy7CLgGoEjdXguIwQpL9CT9dxjdOTpqcUEpixCSIi6Adgua2OKuheEs7O9gXttoBgVqRVNaBTvY35eR6KiqgBfO1R3vDbTLywVmKQ+/lR4LmlJUf5tZFnP27cmwZ6uJwpOnJVu57NPLPM2XZu8jYn7WtiC4= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr3559773rnj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:01:04 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> cc: Scott Long cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt cc: Ben Goren cc: Doug Richardson Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:05 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:19:13 -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard? Do > > you demand that Ford or GM give you the source to the fuel ingector > > computer before you get into a car? I'm saying that resources are out > > there that will allow OpenBSD users to manage their RAID arrays RIGHT > > NOW. No, they don't meet the goals of open source, but they meet the > > goals of getting the job done. If not having the source is a problem, > > then that's your choice and you don't have to use it. But why deprive > > people of a choice, like Theo wants. Freedom is about choice. > > FreeBSD users... watch how Scott argues against free software.. and > cc's the person at Adaptec who he says we should not be mailing... > > oh boy.... > > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would have pushed for open docs a long time ago. Jason