From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 00:13:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D30216A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:13:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au (smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.228.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A37E443D55 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: (qmail 32651 invoked from network); 1 May 2005 00:13:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.foo.lan) (218.214.176.70) by smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au with SMTP; 1 May 2005 00:13:46 -0000 From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:43:34 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <4247271E.60108@xs4all.nl> <008401c53317$0caaed40$4300a8c0@home.lan> <4247344F.9090606@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <4247344F.9090606@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2309176.CBQDKcufj1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505010943.43760.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> cc: gustaaf wijnands Subject: Re: upgrading net-snmp-5.2.1 gives error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 00:13:51 -0000 --nextPart2309176.CBQDKcufj1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 28 March 2005 08:01, gustaaf wijnands wrote: > Thomas Foster wrote: > > Does it compile WITH_PERL=3D"NO" ? > > It doesn't compile WITHOUT_PERL=3Dyes > > > what version of autoconf and libtool are you using? > > pkg_info |grep autoconf > autoconf-2.13.000227_5 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x > platforms > autoconf-2.59_2 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x > platforms > > pkg_info |grep libtool > libtool-1.3.5_2 Generic shared library support script (version 1.3) > libtool-1.5.10_1 Generic shared library support script (version 1.5) > > > and perl -v returns what version? > > perl -v > > This is perl, v5.8.6 built for i386-freebsd-64int > > perl -V > Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 6) configuration: > Platform: > osname=3Dfreebsd, osvers=3D5.3-release-p5, archname=3Di386-freebsd-6= 4int > uname=3D'freebsd laptop.intern 5.3-release-p5 freebsd 5.3-release-p5 > #7: wed ja > n 26 21:10:23 cet 2005 > a@laptop.intern:usrobjusrsrcsysmykernel i386 ' > config_args=3D'-sde -Dprefix=3D/usr/local > -Darchlib=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach > -Dprivlib=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6 > -Dman3dir=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/perl > /man/man3 > -Dman1dir=3D/usr/local/man/man1 -Dsitearch=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_pe= rl > > /5.8.6/mach -Dsitelib=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 > -Dscriptdir=3D/usr/local > /bin > -Dsiteman3dir=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/man/man3 > -Dsiteman1dir=3D/usr/local/m > an/man1 -Ui_malloc -Ui_iconv > -Uinstallusrbinperl -Dcc=3Dcc -Doptimize=3D-O -pipe -Du > > seshrplib -Dccflags=3D-DAPPLLIB_EXP=3D"/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/BSDPAN" > -Ud_dosuid > -Ui_gdbm -Dusethreads=3Dn -Dusemymalloc=3Dy > -Duse64bitint' > hint=3Drecommended, useposix=3Dtrue, d_sigaction=3Ddefine > usethreads=3Dundef use5005threads=3Dundef useithreads=3Dundef > usemultiplicity=3Dundef > useperlio=3Ddefine d_sfio=3Dundef uselargefiles=3Ddefine usesocks=3D= undef > use64bitint=3Ddefine use64bitall=3Dundef uselongdouble=3Dundef > usemymalloc=3Dy, bincompat5005=3Dundef > Compiler: > cc=3D'cc', ccflags > =3D'-DAPPLLIB_EXP=3D"/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FP > > SETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > -I/usr/local/include', > optimize=3D'-O -pipe ', > cppflags=3D'-DAPPLLIB_EXP=3D"/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/BSDPAN" > -DHAS_FPSETMASK - > DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing > -pipe -I/usr/local/include' > ccversion=3D'', gccversion=3D'3.4.2 [FreeBSD] 20040728', gccosandver= s=3D'' > intsize=3D4, longsize=3D4, ptrsize=3D4, doublesize=3D8, byteorder=3D= 12345678 > d_longlong=3Ddefine, longlongsize=3D8, d_longdbl=3Ddefine, longdblsi= ze=3D12 > ivtype=3D'long long', ivsize=3D8, nvtype=3D'double', nvsize=3D8, > Off_t=3D'off_t', lseek > size=3D8 > alignbytes=3D4, prototype=3Ddefine > Linker and Libraries: > ld=3D'cc', ldflags =3D' -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib' > libpth=3D/usr/lib /usr/local/lib > libs=3D-lm -lcrypt -lutil > perllibs=3D-lm -lcrypt -lutil > libc=3D, so=3Dso, useshrplib=3Dtrue, libperl=3Dlibperl.so > gnulibc_version=3D'' > Dynamic Linking: > dlsrc=3Ddl_dlopen.xs, dlext=3Dso, d_dlsymun=3Dundef, ccdlflags=3D' > -Wl,-R/usr/local/ > lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach/CORE' > cccdlflags=3D'-DPIC -fPIC', lddlflags=3D'-shared -L/usr/local/lib' > > > Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): > Compile-time options: USE_64_BIT_INT USE_LARGE_FILES > Locally applied patches: > SUIDPERLIO0 - fix PERLIO_DEBUG local root exploit (CAN-2005-0155) > SUIDPERLIO1 - fix PERLIO_DEBUG buffer overflow (CAN-2005-0156) > Built under freebsd > Compiled at Feb 6 2005 20:47:58 > @INC: > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/BSDPAN > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6 > . > > > what happens after running ldconfig -R > > still the same error. Any idea? Thank for helping me Hi Gustaaf, I'm having exactly the same problem upgrading net-snmp as you. Have you=20 managed to fix the problem yet? My system is pretty much identical to your's, except for autoconf: %pkg_info | grep autoconf autoconf-2.13.000227_5 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x=20 platforms autoconf-2.53_3 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platfo= rms autoconf-2.59_2 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platfo= rms Here's the output when I try to build it without perl: daemon:/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp % sudo make -DWITHOUT_PERL=3D"YES" =3D=3D=3D> Building for net-snmp-5.2.1_2 making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/snmplib making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/agent making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/agent/helpers making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/agent/mibgro= up making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/apps making all=20 in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/apps/snmpnetstat making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/man test -d ./CVS && perl ./mib2c.extract.pl ../local/mib2c ./mib2c.conf.5.in >= =20 mib2c.conf.5 *** Error code 1 (ignored) making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/local making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/mibs Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/default_store/../= =2E./snmplib/.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/default_store/../= =2E./snmplib/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::default_store Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/ASN/../../snmplib= /.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/ASN/../../snmplib/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::ASN Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed todaemon:/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snm= p %=20 sudo make -DWITHOUT_PERL=3D"YES" =3D=3D=3D> Building for net-snmp-5.2.1_2 making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/snmplib making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/agent making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/agent/helpers making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/agent/mibgro= up making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/apps making all=20 in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/apps/snmpnetstat making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/man test -d ./CVS && perl ./mib2c.extract.pl ../local/mib2c ./mib2c.conf.5.in >= =20 mib2c.conf.5 *** Error code 1 (ignored) making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/local making all in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/mibs Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/default_store/../= =2E./snmplib/.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/default_store/../= =2E./snmplib/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::default_store Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/ASN/../../snmplib= /.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/ASN/../../snmplib/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::ASN Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/OID/../../snmplib= /.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/OID/../../snmplib/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::OID Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../snmpl= ib/.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../snmpl= ib/ Warning: -L../../agent/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../agent= /.libs Warning: -L../../agent/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../agent/ Warning: -L../../agent/helpers/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../agent= /helpers/.libs Warning: -L../../agent/helpers/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../agent= /helpers/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-Wl,-E' Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored:=20 '/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a' Warning: -L../../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/default_sto= re/../../../snmplib/.libs Warning: -L../../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/default_sto= re/../../../snmplib/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::agent::default_store Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::agent Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/SNMP/../../snmpli= b/.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/SNMP/../../snmpli= b/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for SNMP Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/auto/SNMP/S= NMP.so:=20 Undefined symbol "perl_get_sv" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp. =20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/OID/../../snmplib= /.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/OID/../../snmplib/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::OID Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../snmpl= ib/.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../snmpl= ib/ Warning: -L../../agent/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../agent= /.libs Warning: -L../../agent/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../agent/ Warning: -L../../agent/helpers/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../agent= /helpers/.libs Warning: -L../../agent/helpers/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/../../agent= /helpers/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-Wl,-E' Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored:=20 '/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a' Warning: -L../../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/default_sto= re/../../../snmplib/.libs Warning: -L../../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/agent/default_sto= re/../../../snmplib/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::agent::default_store Writing Makefile for NetSNMP::agent Warning: -L../../snmplib/.libs changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/SNMP/../../snmpli= b/.libs Warning: -L../../snmplib/ changed to=20 =2DL/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1/perl/SNMP/../../snmpli= b/ Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib' Writing Makefile for SNMP Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/auto/SNMP/S= NMP.so:=20 Undefined symbol "perl_get_sv" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/work/net-snmp-5.2.1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart2309176.CBQDKcufj1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCdB83PUlnmbKkJ6ARAqAdAJ4wTf0wTyxDJaVnkcGwFh+KaNO4pQCfcxBp fSk4RRRHAqLe2Ffvw5v7TKA= =LaUz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2309176.CBQDKcufj1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 00:14:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855DD16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:14:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47CD43D49 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:14:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IFS00MNUBCDON@smtp13.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2005 02:14:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j410Ebjh051882 for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 02:14:37 +0200 (CEST envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 02:14:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <20050430195809.E49572@yokozuna.lan> Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: FreeBSD questions mailing list Message-id: <20050501021131.G49572@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <20050430195809.E49572@yokozuna.lan> Subject: Re: [solved] local mail not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 00:14:39 -0000 On stardate Sat, 30 Apr 2005, the wise Marco Beishuizen entered: > > Hi, > > Since I run sendmail as MTA, my local mail is not being delivered anymore. > I've installed logcheck which sends an e-mail every hour to root/user. When > sendmail was not installed, local mail was delivered properly, but now it is > not anymore. I'm not getting any error messages and the mail spoolers are > empty, so I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. The computer is behind a > adsl-router and sending and receiving external mail is working fine with > sendmail/fetchmail. > > Does anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? > > Thanks in advance, > > Marco I found the problem. I wrongly changed the IP address in the host.domain.submit.mc file to that of the smarthost, instead of leaving it to 127.0.0.1. It seems to work fine again. Marco -- Economists state their GNP growth projections to the nearest tenth of a percentage point to prove they have a sense of humor. -- Edgar R. Fiedler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 02:11:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BF016A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 02:11:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.nativenerds.com (host-70-0-111-24.midco.net [24.111.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C830043D2F for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 02:11:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from red (host-133-35-230-24.midco.net [24.230.35.133]) j412OuV5032529; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:24:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) From: Ed Stover To: Fafa Diliha Romanova In-Reply-To: <20050430141908.6E1A34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050430141908.6E1A34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Native Nerds Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:11:28 -0600 Message-Id: <1114913488.46969.2.camel@red.nativenerds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mail.nativenerds.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@nativenerds.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 02:11:14 -0000 On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 09:19 -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > hey! > > My BIND just stopped working! > > 1) My domain is still registered > 2) My configuration hasn't changed since it stopped working. > prior to that, it has been running flawlessly for months. > > There is nothing in my /var/named/log, so I am totally > clueless. /etc/rc.conf contains named_enable="YES" > > Since my /var/named/etc/namedb configuration is in fact > 100% operational, I've decided to rule that out in this > plea for help. The problem must lie elsewhere. > > Anyone able to help? > > All the best, > -- Fafa > First off, what have you done with that machine before it stopped working? when you try to start named does it produce any error messages? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 02:37:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EDD16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 02:37:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zhonka1.zhonka.net (zhonka1.zhonka.net [66.228.195.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC65243D3F for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 02:37:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([66.228.196.74]) by zhonka1.zhonka.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58414U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:37:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E3B5825; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.pjkh.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48256-07; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC00D5824; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E0157BA; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:36:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Eric Schuele In-Reply-To: <4273F7D1.4030702@computer.org> Message-ID: <20050430193626.I53816@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <4273EFF5.8090504@computer.org> <20050430140440.I47465@wolf.pjkh.com> <4273F7D1.4030702@computer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pjkh.com cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Determining what a port will install... (more than pretty-print-*) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 02:37:09 -0000 > Philip Hallstrom wrote: >>> Is there a way to determine exactly what a particular port will install on >>> my machine? >>> >>> Doing a `make pretty-print-run-depends-list` will show me all of its >>> requirements... but I am interested in the difference between its >>> requirements and what I already have on my machine. If I have 7 out of >>> the 10 requirements.... I would like the remaining 3 listed for me. >>> >>> Is there something in place which provides this? >> >> >> The "portupgrade" port can do this. Something like... >> >> portupgrade -n -Rr someport >> >> The -n tells it not to do anything, just show you what it would do. >> >> The -r and -R tell it to upgrade any dependencies in both directions. >> >> At the end it will print out a little summary of what ports it needs to >> upgrade, what needs installed, and what you've already got. > This sounds like what I'm looking for... so I tried it. But its giving me > difficulties. > > I am using `portupgrade -nN -rR "x11-fm/rox-filer"` for example. I know I > have most, but not all, of what is needed by rox-filer. I was hoping to see > a concise list of things I am missing (and would therefore be installed). In > my example I used the `-N` switch because the man page sounded like that what > was needed when the port is not currently installed (which is my situation). > > But portupgrade reports > ---> Session started at: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:07 -0500 > Install 'x11-fm/rox-filer'? [no] > ---> Session ended at: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:07 -0500 (consumed 00:00:00) > > What am I doing wrong? That I can't help you with... maybe there's more options (verbose mode?) that would show it... I tend to only use portupgrade for upgrading already installed ports... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 03:54:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECF916A4CF for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:54:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9026D43D46 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:54:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from t0m0p0@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1104996wra for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:54:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GGbqqArj1Lr9CFXwDFxz6UKBxUXqzT4/mclDpKBLQYdyVBoTmyOWuiz/YHAx6dzZxotQNphMNPU6s07P3b3y1YjDilYHrnjWpBgfgQd2UVhyLU3Gt0KndUFuqZba4wryEjMno5u3k/NFYzXWwjj1oBzUnBkeo/DRIq4ffqYnO8k= Received: by 10.54.122.13 with SMTP id u13mr48232wrc; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.38.52 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:52:43 -0700 From: T P To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: while make install firefox get libglib-2.0.so.400 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: T P List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 03:54:37 -0000 I am not currently subscribed to the list. ../../dist/bin/xpidl -m header -w -I. -I../../dist/idl -o _xpidlgen/nsICons= oleLi stener nsIConsoleListener.idl /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libglib-2.0.so.400" not found, require= d by "libIDL-2.so.0" gmake[3]: *** [_xpidlgen/nsIConsoleListener.h] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/xpcom/base= ' gmake[2]: *** [export] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/xpcom' gmake[1]: *** [tier_2] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla' gmake: *** [default] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 03:57:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF77B16A4CF for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:57:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABB943D1F for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:57:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A0C7513B1; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:57:09 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: T P Message-ID: <20050501035709.GA51669@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: while make install firefox get libglib-2.0.so.400 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 03:57:11 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:52:43PM -0700, T P wrote: > I am not currently subscribed to the list. >=20 > ../../dist/bin/xpidl -m header -w -I. -I../../dist/idl -o _xpidlgen/nsICo= nsoleLi > stener nsIConsoleListener.idl > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libglib-2.0.so.400" not found, requi= red by > "libIDL-2.so.0" This question has been asked and answered many times recently; please consult the archives. Kris --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCdFOVWry0BWjoQKURAuygAKClY126vXXvmZZIu/mKRrqLyoO9igCfeYlo 4Wk5p0w1BHzo54Padjntra0= =E+uI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 03:58:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E875216A4CF for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:58:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96E6C43D3F for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:58:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.15 with plain) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2005 03:58:47 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:58:44 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200504300514.50553.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <4273F14E.2030108@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <4273F14E.2030108@mac.com> X-Face: "u-%.52Z_uQCP'Vdj{95/n*(sgAAm`F/p'b0zo%-DuBTdZ*qW!!/idDBRjkFfJD[Qe&>=?utf-8?q?=5F2=0A=09?=<}OGsEY~)n?NywZRi9xm-jH_VPg"8nTSzo:r8;U3oTQz|@z)|>%i+MRY2Y#>s~X`sV$&t"=?utf-8?q?=0A=09AkQ=5EU3rJIFCU=3F=5DcC=27F=26fY4=23Jf-=7D=3F7x?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504302058.44581.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Subject: Re: DNS, BIND9 ... diving in ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 03:58:48 -0000 On Sat 30 Apr 05 13:57, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Joshua Tinnin wrote: > [ ... ] > > > Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) > > (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.15 with plain) > > by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2005 11:26:08 > > -0000 > > > > Well, I don't own smogmonster.com (when I first picked it, nobody > > did, but now someone does), but FreeBSD wouldn't let me assign a > > name that wouldn't ever resolve, like simply "smogmonster". Is this > > a problem, or should I not worry about it? Or am I missing > > something vital here? > > It's considered impolite to impersonate a domain which does not > belong to you. For the purposes of email, it would be better to > masquerade as a host in the domain of your ISP or mail service (ie, > masquarade as pacbell.net). OK, thanks for clarifying, as that's what I thought, but ... > > Also, is there any sort of guide on how to set up DNS in my > > situation? > > Yes, use an invalid top-level domain like .local, or maybe .lan. So, which would be better here? Would it be considered impolite to assign foo.local to my workstation, if I'm sending email through Pacbell's (SBC/Yahoo) server? Or would it be more impolite to masquerade as pacbell.net, as the mail server is actually assigned to Yahoo, and the ISP is now SBC with Pacbell email names grandfathered in from their acquisition? Or, maybe this isn't so much of an issue, as long as it's not masquerading as someone else's domain, but I'd tend towards something like .local, as there won't be any confusion. > > I've read the handbook, and it seems most of it is covered, but > > additional sources are always welcome. Later, I'll be getting > > static IPs and will probably have my ISP handle rDNS, but I'll need > > to assign authoritative names at that point, though not until then. > > O'Reilley publishes an excellent book on DNS, although the BOG (BIND > Operations Guide) is also worth a read. Yes, I must remember to save some money and get some more O'Reilly books. Their DNS book has been recommended to me before, but thanks for reminding me, as I know it's good, and it honestly should be on my shelf. Have been meaning to get Greg Leahey's book as well, but maybe I'll wait for the next edition, because he recently said he'd be updating it. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 04:00:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C8816A4FA for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:00:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6721043D1D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:00:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.15 with plain) by smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2005 04:00:16 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:00:15 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200504300514.50553.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <4273F14E.2030108@mac.com> <200504302058.44581.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200504302058.44581.krinklyfig@spymac.com> X-Face: "u-%.52Z_uQCP'Vdj{95/n*(sgAAm`F/p'b0zo%-DuBTdZ*qW!!/idDBRjkFfJD[Qe&>=?utf-8?q?=5F2=0A=09?=<}OGsEY~)n?NywZRi9xm-jH_VPg"8nTSzo:r8;U3oTQz|@z)|>%i+MRY2Y#>s~X`sV$&t"=?utf-8?q?=0A=09AkQ=5EU3rJIFCU=3F=5DcC=27F=26fY4=23Jf-=7D=3F7x?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504302100.15360.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Subject: Re: DNS, BIND9 ... diving in ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 04:00:16 -0000 On Sat 30 Apr 05 20:58, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > Have been meaning to get Greg Leahey's book as well, but > maybe I'll wait for the next edition, because he recently said he'd > be updating it. 'Scuze me, that should be Lehey, of course ... - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 04:27:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A0C16A4CF for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:27:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ene.asda.gr (ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7982A43D39 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lefty@asda.gr) Received: by ene.asda.gr (Postfix, from userid 127) id 7BC6211449; Sun, 1 May 2005 07:27:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from asda.gr (lefty.ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.162]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits))OK)) by ene.asda.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087B511413 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 07:27:00 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42745A8F.79763004@asda.gr> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 07:26:55 +0300 From: Lefteris Tsintjelis Organization: ASDA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on ene.asda.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: score=-5.0 autolearn=no tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 Subject: Can I make both port indexes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 04:27:07 -0000 Is it possible to make both port indexes (FreeBSD4/FreeBSD5) for local port redistribution for FreeBSD4 and FreeBSD5 systems? Please CC Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 04:58:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D9D16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:58:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A9543D2F for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D1D1C51F72; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:58:41 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Lefteris Tsintjelis Message-ID: <20050501045841.GA67819@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <42745A8F.79763004@asda.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42745A8F.79763004@asda.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can I make both port indexes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 04:58:43 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:26:55AM +0300, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: > Is it possible to make both port indexes (FreeBSD4/FreeBSD5) for > local port redistribution for FreeBSD4 and FreeBSD5 systems? Yes, see how the ports/Tools/scripts/tindex script works. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 07:10:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FFA16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 07:10:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC5743D49 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 07:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DAC581D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58623-02 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C10D57BE; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050501071004.0C10D57BE@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-04-10 - 2005-04-30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 07:10:19 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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BSDCan 2005 - The Technical BSD Conference http://freebsddiary.org/bsdcan-2005.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 08:12:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C5316A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:12:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3164143D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:12:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 17553 invoked by uid 510); 1 May 2005 09:16:16 +0100 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/710. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.7/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 1 May 2005 09:16:14 +0100 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1114935374.16570.28.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 09:16:14 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Free BSD & Heartbeat + Samba + Rsync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 08:12:37 -0000 Hi, I'm new to the world of HA and Unix having just moved from a windows based system. What I am trying to do is provide a network of XP, W2k and FreeBSD (5.3) machines a central File store. This store also needs to provide for backing up of off site machines. My problem is that I am not up onprogramming and I am having problems getting my brain around scripts etc. My thoughts are: Use heartbeat to form the core of the system. Use Samba to export file shares for the Windows machines. Use Rsync to sync the files between nodes of the cluster. Use FTP (VSftp or ProFTP) to receive backups of the data from the off site machines? I have got the bits running on their own, but i am having trouble with getting them to run together. If I have this right, heartbeat will stop and start services such as samba as the nodes change over. Heartbeat works fine and the cluster (ip 192.168.0.60 name cluster) appears on the network. The first problem is that samba needs to be started and stopped on the nodes. On FreeBSD Samba is started by running smbd and nmbd via inetd unless I missed something. According to the HB docs, to start/stop it needs a script so that a smb start or similar will work. I'm not sure how to do this. My second problem is that I can get rsync to work ok, but I need to get it to work in the reverse direction once the heartbeat has operated and the failed node bought backup. I've tried to use the Perl scripts that came with HB but failed as they are for linux rather than BSD and I do not know enough about Perl to fix this. Whilst the the different paths are easily sorted there are calls to utils that are not found on BSD. I can post the scripts it that would help. Advice on the feasibility of this setup would be appreciated as would help with sorting out the problems above Thanks Rob (sorry about the long post) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 10:32:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE4F16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:32:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1238043D46 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:32:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])ADF2E180013E for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:32:16 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 1 May 2005 10:32:16 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A1C114BEAD; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:32:16 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 01 May 2005 05:32:16 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: estover@nativenerds.com Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 05:32:16 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050501103216.A1C114BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:32:17 -0000 I haven't done anything out of the ordinary. /etc/rc.d/named reload (or stop or start) doesn't say anything weird. Thanks, -- Fafa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Stover" To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:11:28 -0600 >=20 > On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 09:19 -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > hey! > > > > My BIND just stopped working! > > > > 1) My domain is still registered > > 2) My configuration hasn't changed since it stopped working. > > prior to that, it has been running flawlessly for months. > > > > There is nothing in my /var/named/log, so I am totally > > clueless. /etc/rc.conf contains named_enable=3D"YES" > > > > Since my /var/named/etc/namedb configuration is in fact > > 100% operational, I've decided to rule that out in this > > plea for help. The problem must lie elsewhere. > > > > Anyone able to help? > > > > All the best, > > -- Fafa > > > First off, what have you done with that machine before it stopped > working? when you try to start named does it produce any error > messages? --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 10:44:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E2616A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:44:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from slick.sigje.org (rdns.222.240.218.216.fre.communitycolo.net [216.218.240.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDE743D31 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:44:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ahorn@deorth.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by slick.sigje.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DSBvr-0007ZB-Cf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2005 03:44:15 -0700 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 03:44:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Horn X-X-Sender: ahorn@slick.sigje.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: question about mksnap_ffs and NFS interaction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:44:16 -0000 Folks, I have some NFS exported filesystems (home directories) that I'm placing under snapshots. Timing of making a snapshot on a 140GB filesystems running about 90% full takes about 17 seconds. Given that these filesystems are fairly heavily used homedir filesystems, what is the expected impact of those 17 seconds on NFS clients. My guess is that its enough to be seen but not enough to cause NFS timeouts. So far I've been scheduling snapshots for the middle of the night, but I'd like to start doing four per day. Does anyone have any data on the likely impact ? Please reply direct to me as I'm not subbsed to the list. Cheers, Al From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 10:55:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AE716A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:55:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (smtp3.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A31743D48 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:55:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from awad@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (localhost.hushmail.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 76A7EA35AD for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver5.hushmail.com (mailserver5.hushmail.com [65.39.178.19]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailserver5.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 15A32344DB; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 03:55:03 -0700 To: From: Message-Id: <20050501105508.15A32344DB@mailserver5.hushmail.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NETWORK DESTROYED!!! hieeelp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:55:10 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey! No, I haven't done a build/installworld. Nor upgraded any ports. /usr/src and /usr/ports/UPDATING are in the clear. I've realized now too, that I cannot ping my server's IP from an outside computer. (Yeah I do manage to SSH to ONE server) Thanks, - --Awad On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:18:00 -0700 Chris wrote: >awad@hushmail.com wrote: >> Hello. >> >> Sorry about the captivating subject. >> >> My FreeBSD 5.X-STABLE configuration has been running flawlessly >> for months now. Then all of a sudden, two days ago, things >became >> rather strange. >> >> 1) My reverse DNS doesn't work. >> 2) Because of that, my mail and web system is down. >> 3) I can't SSH/FTP into certain servers. >> >> My DNS server setup really is functional. So it cannot be that. >> I could, however, provide the configuration files if requested. >> >> Nothing in /var/log contains anything useful. >> And /var/named/var/log is empty. >> >> I just installed PF, so I thought that was the problem. >> I've completely disabled PF, yet the problem is still there. >> >> I appreciate ALL THE HELP I CAN GET! PLEASE! >> >> Thanks, >> -- Awad > >Did you do buildworld and installworld anytime in the last 2 >months? >What about a cvsup of the ports tree and a portupgrade? Is so - >did you >read both /usr/src/UPDATING & /usr/ports/UPDATING? > > > >-- >Best regards, >Chris > >Everything is revealed to he who turns over enough stones. >(Including the snakes that he did not want to find.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.4 wkYEARECAAYFAkJ0tZQACgkQgrhgoMygEH4TuwCfXl8LWx269S5YG5iKq0SIS+3sekcA n33ZGR2tH7nAXI50pTOTFWp5eK3N =tMoF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 11:13:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B9D16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:13:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (smtp3.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8CB43D2D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:13:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from awad@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (localhost.hushmail.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 419B1A35D4 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver5.hushmail.com (mailserver5.hushmail.com [65.39.178.19]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailserver5.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id D2CDA344F3; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 04:13:08 -0700 To: From: Message-Id: <20050501111311.D2CDA344F3@mailserver5.hushmail.com> Subject: Re: NETWORK DESTROYED!!! hieeelp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 11:13:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 this is really strange maybe its a bug in the driver code (for lnc0) or firewall code (though pf is disabled now) that just tickled by something? outside my server, i can traceroute to ip but there is a timeout between 195.190.249.8 and me. both my nameservers are unresponsive. On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:18:00 -0700 Chris wrote: >awad@hushmail.com wrote: >> Hello. >> >> Sorry about the captivating subject. >> >> My FreeBSD 5.X-STABLE configuration has been running flawlessly >> for months now. Then all of a sudden, two days ago, things > became >> rather strange. >> >> 1) My reverse DNS doesn't work. >> 2) Because of that, my mail and web system is down. >> 3) I can't SSH/FTP into certain servers. >> >> My DNS server setup really is functional. So it cannot be that. >> I could, however, provide the configuration files if requested. >> >> Nothing in /var/log contains anything useful. >> And /var/named/var/log is empty. >> >> I just installed PF, so I thought that was the problem. >> I've completely disabled PF, yet the problem is still there. >> >> I appreciate ALL THE HELP I CAN GET! PLEASE! >> >> Thanks, >> -- Awad > >Did you do buildworld and installworld anytime in the last 2 >months? >What about a cvsup of the ports tree and a portupgrade? Is so - >did you >read both /usr/src/UPDATING & /usr/ports/UPDATING? > > > >-- >Best regards, >Chris > >Everything is revealed to he who turns over enough stones. >(Including the snakes that he did not want to find.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.4 wkYEARECAAYFAkJ0uXUACgkQgrhgoMygEH5h+QCcC43eeCocK99pcwY6sUeCMR5BpBgA oJtREC7q+drQLbTVOY+2dQFVwUMn =8g3Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 12:39:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8A216A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:39:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm12.prodigy.net (ylpvm12-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF39A43D49 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:39:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from antennex@swbell.net) Received: from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (pimout6-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.78])j41Cd52j014494 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:39:06 -0400 X-ORBL: [65.68.247.73] Received: from SAGEAME (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73])j41Cd5XQ287954; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:39:06 -0400 Message-ID: <023201c54e4a$c40a8f60$0200000a@SAGEAME> From: "antenneX" To: "Alan Horn" , References: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 07:39:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: question about mksnap_ffs and NFS interaction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: antenneX List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:39:08 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Horn" To: Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 5:44 AM Subject: question about mksnap_ffs and NFS interaction > > Folks, > > I have some NFS exported filesystems (home directories) that I'm placing > under snapshots. > > Timing of making a snapshot on a 140GB filesystems running about 90% full > takes about 17 seconds. > > Given that these filesystems are fairly heavily used homedir filesystems, > what is the expected impact of those 17 seconds on NFS clients. > > My guess is that its enough to be seen but not enough to cause NFS > timeouts. So far I've been scheduling snapshots for the middle of the > night, but I'd like to start doing four per day. Does anyone have any data > on the likely impact ? > > Please reply direct to me as I'm not subbsed to the list. > > Cheers, > > Al > Glad to see a question on this subject and my reply is just more questions rather than an answer. I've just moved to 5.4RC3 & read most of the docs and this snap issue is new to me too. Howe are you scheduling? I noticed I never got a snapshot until I ran the command to do snaps on each FS. So, I scheduled one for "noon" as a cron job. Now I get a regular "snap" plus the "nooner", but they show a random time & both done about the same time. A mystery to me so far... sure like the new snap feature though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 12:39:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AE616A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:39:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf38.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf38.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F125C43D54 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:39:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from mxip03.cluster1.charter.net (mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.133])j41CdOtH010348 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:39:24 -0400 Received: from westtn-24.183.193.23.chartertn.net (HELO [192.168.1.6]) (24.183.193.23) by mxip03.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 01 May 2005 08:39:24 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.92,142,1112587200"; d="scan'208"; a="898528077:sNHT18933802" Message-ID: <4274C2B1.9010505@wilderness.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 06:51:13 -0500 From: Laurence Sanford User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050112) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: New and strang log messages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 12:39:26 -0000 I saw this in my daily emails this morning. What does it mean? I find this strange as I have not connected any new accessories to my computer in over a year, and this is the first time I've ever seen this.: >cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 87192 bytes, which is greater than DFLTPHYS(65536) > cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 87192 bytes, which is greater than DFLTPHYS(65536) > cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 87192 bytes, which is greater than DFLTPHYS(65536) > cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 87192 bytes, which is greater than DFLTPHYS(65536) > cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 493880 bytes, which is greater than DFLTPHYS(65536) > cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 493880 bytes, which is greater than DFLTPHYS(65536) > cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 493880 bytes, which is greater than DFLTPHYS(65536) > cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 493880 bytes, which is greater than DFLTPHYS(65536) For the record: lauasanf@colossus(~)$ uname -a FreeBSD colossus.cotharyus.net 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #6: Mon Apr 25 07:15:54 CDT 2005 lauasanf@colossus.cotharyus.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Colossus i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 13:17:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DDA16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:17:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9329C43D1F for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mihail_stoyanov@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 10068 invoked by uid 0); 1 May 2005 13:17:34 -0000 Received: from 134.91.242.105 by www65.gmx.net with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:17:34 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:17:34 +0200 (MEST) From: "Mihail Stoyanov" To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated: #25477810 Message-ID: <18164.1114953454@www65.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: AC'97 Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:17:36 -0000 Hello! I recently installed the FreeBSD 5.3-BETA4-STABLE version of the FreeBSD operating system. I have a MSI mainboard with AC'97 built-in sound card. I compiled my kernel with "device sound" but it doesn't seem to get the job done. Is there a way to activate my sound card with this version of FreeBSD and how? Thank you for your time and consideration! Sincerely, Mihail Stoyanov -- +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 13:19:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230A516A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:19:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp2.tin.it (vsmtp2alice.tin.it [212.216.176.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D4043D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:19:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.demartino2@virgilio.it) Received: from wireless (62.211.199.175) by vsmtp2.tin.it (7.0.027) id 4272A0500007284D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:19:35 +0200 From: Vittorio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:19:24 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505011519.24427.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> Subject: To compile or not to compile the system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:19:38 -0000 Using cvsup, after having issued "make update", it takes a long time to recompile the OS sources and kernel by means of make buildworld make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL and then.. mergemaster -p make installworld etc... If I frequently update the OS and ports this procedure becomes time-consuming indeed. Is there any way to know in advance if it is necessary to comply with the described procedure or if it can be skipped because there weren't changes between two close updating? Ciao Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 13:57:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC9416A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:57:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54004.mail.yahoo.com (web54004.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3698D43D48 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:57:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 48201 invoked by uid 60001); 1 May 2005 13:57:14 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=nLex7OCiCOK/MNoLU2cVw1b6AyBg8hYLrA17z8WvCYCGaN6M7KWIeWupAfSkbxcKUQQr/n3H/IW5gfNGO4df4xdmDm7b1yt94LZYtpZqgiqST9uU6r9HCmSWbo2V4yPW56wbXpK4TkvrC9a3uptZV/eHf8C+Tj1VlZVUIW6IyXU= ; Message-ID: <20050501135714.48199.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 May 2005 06:57:14 PDT Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 06:57:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob To: mihail_stoyanov@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: AC'97 Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:57:15 -0000 Mihail Stoyanov wrote: > > I recently installed the FreeBSD 5.3-BETA4-STABLE > version of the FreeBSD operating system. I have a > MSI mainboard with AC'97 built-in sound card. I'm not an expert here, but I have solved this problem for other soundscards, by loading the additional sound modules one-by-one and see which one connects to the soundcard, by inspecting 'cat /dev/sndstat'. Check /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES or /boot/kernel/ for all snd_* modules. This is a bit of a brute force method, but may be of help to you, until someone else more knowledgeable replies to your question. Good luck, Rob. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 14:08:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D0016A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:08:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.bg (mx1.mail.bg [193.201.172.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3007143D31 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ianchov@mail.bg) Received: from localhost (web1.mail.bg [193.201.172.98]) by mx1.mail.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6EA72F7AD0 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:07:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 213-240-204-244.1699773.ddns.cablebg.netmail.bg (mail.bG Webmail 4.0.1) with HTTP for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:07:42 +0300 Message-ID: <1114956462.765f461385934@mail.bg> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 17:07:42 +0300 From: ianchov@mail.bg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <023201c54e4a$c40a8f60$0200000a@SAGEAME> In-Reply-To: <023201c54e4a$c40a8f60$0200000a@SAGEAME> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: mail.bG Webmail 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 213.240.204.244 Subject: Re: question about mksnap_ffs and NFS interaction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:08:00 -0000 >>> > >>> >>> Glad to see a question on this subject and my reply is just more >>> questions rather than an answer. >>> >>> I've just moved to 5.4RC3 & read most of the docs and this snap issue is >>> new to me too. Howe are you scheduling? I noticed I never got a snapshot >>> until I ran the command to do snaps on each FS. So, I scheduled one for >>> "noon" as a cron job. Now I get a regular "snap" plus the "nooner", but >>> they show a random time & both done about the same time. >>> >>> A mystery to me so far... sure like the new snap feature though. >>> > Hello, boys! So as you are speaking for those thing called "snashot" i will beg you to sh= are some experience about it. How do you find it works, have you made rebuild of the system from a snansho= t... and so.. Thanks ----------------------------- =CD=E5 =EF=F0=E0=E2=E5=F2=E5 =F2=EE=E2=E0 =E2 =E4=EE=EC=E0 =E8=EB=E8 =EE=F4= =E8=F1=E0! =E2=E8=E6 http://www.gsmreview.com/kip.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 14:12:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A917C16A4D5 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:12:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C674243D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:12:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD62E42A8; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:15:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 47287-07; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:15:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F95D40A4; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:15:00 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: Vittorio , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 16:15:00 +0200 Message-Id: <20050501141248.M72649@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <200505011519.24427.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> References: <200505011519.24427.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.50 20050106 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: To compile or not to compile the system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:12:02 -0000 On Sun, 1 May 2005 15:19:24 +0000, Vittorio wrote > Using cvsup, after having issued "make update", it takes a long > time to recompile the OS sources and kernel by means of make buildworld > make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > and then.. > mergemaster -p > make installworld > etc... > > If I frequently update the OS and ports this procedure becomes time- > consuming indeed. Is there any way to know in advance if it is > necessary to comply with the described procedure or if it can be > skipped because there weren't changes between two close updating? Subscribe to freebsd-announce@freebsd.org. Then you know when you should cvsup again and recompile the kernel (when exploits or other security issues are discovered and corrected). And you don't have to recompile all your ports every week ;) Once in a few months is a good approach I think. Jorn > Ciao Vittorio _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 14:13:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4346516A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:13:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8B043D39 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:13:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-39-77.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.39.77]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CED123A75; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:12:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2384212B102; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:13:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69507-05; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:13:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1A712B0B2; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:13:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4274E3FE.504@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 16:13:18 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mihail Stoyanov References: <18164.1114953454@www65.gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <18164.1114953454@www65.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AC'97 Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:13:31 -0000 Mihail Stoyanov wrote: >I have a MSI mainboard with AC'97 built-in sound card. >I compiled my kernel with "device sound" but it doesn't seem to get the >job done. Is there a way to activate my sound card with this version of >FreeBSD and how? > > Tell the output of 'pciconf -lv | grep -B4 audio' please. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 14:19:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9589216A4CE; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:19:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rastaban.dandy.net (rastaban.dandy.net [209.128.224.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F91C43D39; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:19:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from Mira.dandy.net (mira.dandy.net [209.128.224.15]) by rastaban.dandy.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j41EJHC8009602; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:19:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 10:19:17 -0400 (EDT) From: andy@neu.net X-X-Sender: andyneu@Mira.dandy.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050501120045.ACEFD16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20050501120045.ACEFD16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: keyboard problem X won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:19:18 -0000 I just upgraded from 5.3 to 5.4 RC3 via sysinstall from a cd.The upgrade was successful however, when I try "startx" I get the following error: (EE) Failed to load module "speedo" (module does not exit,0) (EE) Failed to load module "Keyboard" (module does not exit,0) (EE) No input driver matching 'Keyboard' No core keyboard Fatal server error: failed to inititalize core devices It seems the keyboard driver is missing. Any suggestions to get it working are really appreciated. TIA, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 16:23:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5DA16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:23:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iqara.net (sendmail.iqara.net [203.187.192.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4351C43D54 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:23:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 24585 invoked by uid 517); 1 May 2005 16:02:11 -0000 Received: from shantanoo@gmail.com by sendmail.iqara.net by uid 505 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (avgd: ???. Clear:RC:1(219.91.153.219):. Processed in 0.074075 secs); 01 May 2005 16:02:11 -0000 Received: from 219-153.91.219.cable-client.iqara.net (HELO dhumketu.homeunix.net) ([219.91.153.219]) (envelope-sender ) by iqara.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 May 2005 16:02:11 -0000 Received: by dhumketu.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 71F20690A; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:28:03 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 08:28:03 +0530 From: Shantanoo Mahajan To: Frank Staals Message-ID: <20050501025803.GA6705@dhumketu.homeunix.net> References: <42734355.8030700@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42734355.8030700@zonnet.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Hmmm... I dunno X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 i386 X-UPTIME: 8:24AM up 10:03, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 X-Mailer-Website: http://www.mutt.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a KATE replacement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 16:23:08 -0000 +++ Frank Staals [freebsd] [30-04-05 10:35 +0200]: | Hey everyone, | | When I started using FreeBSD for desktop usage ( about a year ago ) I | used KDE as desktop manager, but now I am using XFCE4.2.1 for that | purpose. But when writing html pages, scripts, programs etc I still use | KATE ( KDE Advanced Text Editor ), the thing is that it starts up realy | slow ( probably because it has to load a lot of basic kde stuff ). | | So the question was does anyone know a good graphical replacement for | Kate, I esspecially like the bar on the left which lets you easily | switch between multiple files, and the build in terminalclient on the | bottom. I tried looking in the ports/editors section but there are that | many editors I realy don't know what to use. I am looking for a | graphical editor, not commandline ( therefor I allready use joe ). gvim, (x)emacs, bluefish, ... Regards, Shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 16:28:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF28D16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:28:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp5.ispsnet.net (smtp5.ispsnet.net [64.63.192.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F01C43D2D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groleau+feit@freeshell.org) Received: from [4.224.72.233] (unverified [4.224.72.233]) by smtp5.ispsnet.net (Joe 1) with ESMTP id 604643 for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 12:28:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Wesley Groleau Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:29:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: A rather unusual install situation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 16:28:03 -0000 I have looked at the install doc, and I don't think this is covered. I have an older Intel box that is unable to boot the 5.x CDs, and is unable to create CDs from images anyway. I am also unable to create floppies, nor do I have enough space to build from source. I do have 4.9 installed and running, and it has full network access to a Mac (OS X), which has dialup to the outside world. Is there a way to download any format of the latest stable FreeBSD to the Mac, and from there, via NFS or FTP, upgrade? I do have two disks on Intel, so if necessary, I can boot one in order to install on the other. Or if I can get someone to make me a CD, can I install from it without booting from it? -- Wes Groleau He that is good for making excuses, is seldom good for anything else. -- Benjamin Franklin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 16:40:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89D016A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:40:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA9243D46 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:40:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 21689 invoked by uid 510); 1 May 2005 17:44:03 +0100 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/710. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.7/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 1 May 2005 17:44:01 +0100 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1114965840.20876.6.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:44:00 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: A rather unusual install situation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 16:40:26 -0000 On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 17:29, Wesley Groleau wrote: > I have looked at the install doc, and I don't think this is covered. > I have an older Intel box that is unable to boot the 5.x CDs, and is > unable to create CDs from images anyway. > > I am also unable to create floppies, nor do I have enough space to > build from source. > > I do have 4.9 installed and running, and it has full network access > to a Mac (OS X), which has dialup to the outside world. > > Is there a way to download any format of the latest stable FreeBSD > to the Mac, and from there, via NFS or FTP, upgrade? I do have two > disks on Intel, so if necessary, I can boot one in order to install > on the other. > > Or if I can get someone to make me a CD, can I install from it without > booting from it? Wesley, You can download the floppy(s) images from the freebsd site just follow the links from the handbook - you need to write the image in raw mode. You can then load from the CD. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 17:17:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72FB16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:17:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856FA43D45 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:17:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8590300035C for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42750EFF.4080201@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 19:16:47 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-15?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050424) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: burncd in FBSD 5.4-STABLE does not fixate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:17:16 -0000 Hello. Before doing again a send-pr, I would like to spread out that burncd still has problems fixating CD-RW/CD-R. Burning CD-R and/or CD-RW with command line #hello: burncd -v -f /dev/acd1 data foo.iso fixate leaves the CD-R or CD-RW unfixated and I need to fixate the CD-R or CD-RW with #hello: cdrecord -v -fix dev=0,1,0 which remains in a working disk. Any suggestions how to track down the problem or is it me doing wrong things? Thanks in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 17:19:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350FF16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:19:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AA243D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:19:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so783714rnf for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:19:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type; b=gcpl/+zo44H7IV3DsamLoCce+VK5cs1PZ0gNTMOVPJtDYfh2VH3han2VIFcBtE3u/HDUXAv+IMhAXhysuDWnmGk/j648txSwCJVc+tBTDL8gG3GQogsFGI+QGXXml7bmXMPaBkOK92RHiGFyweDbjADiXYjlur9hbfdg8CCKa8c= Received: by 10.38.11.30 with SMTP id 30mr5478919rnk; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.160.232? ([59.93.160.232]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k4sm1596020rnd.2005.05.01.10.18.59; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42750F7F.1070307@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:48:55 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010609080302010905030909" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Xorg glitches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:19:02 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010609080302010905030909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Folks, I have just install 5.4-RC3 and cvsuped to 5.4-STABLE. I have also installed the Xorg 6.8.2 port from /usr/ports/x11/xorg after the port tree has been cvsupped. But when I try "Xorg -configure", as indicated in the handbok, I get an error: "Failed to load module "pcidata"" As a result Xorg is not starting up at all. How can this be fixed? Thanks S. --------------010609080302010905030909-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 17:22:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134EC16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:22:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E8943D1D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:22:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so795233rng for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:22:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type; b=LdJ2hqytWbKm3Vv7WX97AdKQTqwZYSduZm4WcoIYfbuSW79ufl+lw0jdWA55GgVXhm6y0ZuVzH9JYocsIH10mdGSH8pj2a9iuenUG9gbV8PyCSsfaKk9oTkPZQAUK0MEJgy81oQjrRuPJjp6gaH66/Fx+3W18Mhk5tCb4Af+q2Q= Received: by 10.38.67.69 with SMTP id p69mr5549912rna; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.160.232? ([59.93.160.232]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 79sm1563024rna.2005.05.01.10.22.23; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42751049.1010800@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:52:17 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030508090600090601040305" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: 5.1 Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:22:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030508090600090601040305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Folks, Is there any way to generate 5.1 output with Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 sound card when a 5.1 souce file like AC3 is played? The driver which is included with the 5.4 is just stereo :-( Regards S. --------------030508090600090601040305-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 17:45:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E8A16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:45:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.nativenerds.com (host-70-0-111-24.midco.net [24.111.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF72D43D1F for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:45:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from red (host-133-35-230-24.midco.net [24.230.35.133]) j41HxCnE034831; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:59:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) From: Ed Stover To: Fafa Diliha Romanova In-Reply-To: <20050501103216.A1C114BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050501103216.A1C114BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Native Nerds Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 11:45:24 -0600 Message-Id: <1114969524.2870.6.camel@red.nativenerds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=PLING_PLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mail.nativenerds.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@nativenerds.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:45:24 -0000 On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 05:32 -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > I haven't done anything out of the ordinary. > > /etc/rc.d/named reload (or stop or start) > > doesn't say anything weird. > > Thanks, > -- Fafa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Stover" > To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" > Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:11:28 -0600 > > > > > On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 09:19 -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > > hey! > > > > > > My BIND just stopped working! > > > > > > 1) My domain is still registered > > > 2) My configuration hasn't changed since it stopped working. > > > prior to that, it has been running flawlessly for months. > > > > > > There is nothing in my /var/named/log, so I am totally > > > clueless. /etc/rc.conf contains named_enable="YES" > > > > > > Since my /var/named/etc/namedb configuration is in fact > > > 100% operational, I've decided to rule that out in this > > > plea for help. The problem must lie elsewhere. > > > > > > Anyone able to help? > > > > > > All the best, > > > -- Fafa > > > > > First off, what have you done with that machine before it stopped > > working? when you try to start named does it produce any error > > messages? > You are not being helpful. lol, try this /usr/local/etc/rc.d/bind start ps -ax |grep named Now is there a named running? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 17:53:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC1F16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:53:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF9943D1D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:53:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D485E64; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32252-04; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC1D5E16; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4275176A.9020004@mac.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:52:42 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subhro References: <42751049.1010800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42751049.1010800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1 Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:53:24 -0000 Subhro wrote: > Is there any way to generate 5.1 output with Creative Sound Blaster > Live! 5.1 sound card when a 5.1 souce file like AC3 is played? The > driver which is included with the 5.4 is just stereo :-( Give the drivers at http://www.opensound.com a shot. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 18:15:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7183E16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:15:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601AA43D46 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:15:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rylwin@houston.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (cpe-67-10-38-25.houston.res.rr.com [67.10.38.25])j41IFARh006910 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:15:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42751CA4.1060009@houston.rr.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:15:00 -0500 From: Ryan Winograd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: X11 Forwarding Apps already running X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:15:14 -0000 Is it possible to forward an already running X application? And then send it back to its original location so that I can close the remote workstation and leave the app running? I've been trying google for an answer, and some man pages, but can't find an answer. Thanks for help, Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 18:21:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77A716A4CF for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:21:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from host.idesigns.net (host.idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD9C43D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:21:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by host.idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j41ILibh009327 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:21:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42751E3C.8060103@schmittnet.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:21:48 -0400 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Domain Name in postfix on a Local Network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:21:50 -0000 I've been struggling through setting up a mail server on my home network, with the goal to be running an imap server. As I've indicated on some other related postings I've made, networking is probably my weakest side and I need a little help. I have no real internet name for the box, which I call "schfrbsd" (named with a dot at the end in rc.conf hostname="schfrbsd."). Using that name, I've managed to get Samba working and a local web server, but when I come to mail, I get confused. The network is made up of a bunch of XP Home Machines, the FreeBSD 4.9 machine, and a Netgear Router/Firewall that also runs DHCP. I don't think it's relevant here, but the workgroup name I use for Samba and Windows Peer Networking is "olympia". The router is called schrout, if that helps. When I come to configuring postfix, there are entries for myhostname and mydomain. I believe myhostname should be schbsd. What do I use for mydomain? Where should I be naming the domain? Thanks for any help. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 18:37:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE25E16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:37:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E7943D46 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:37:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maarten@sandersatkins.nl) Received: from [10.0.0.152] (a80-127-55-226.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.127.55.226]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41Ib2Xe064477 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:37:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from maarten@sandersatkins.nl) From: Maarten Sanders To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:37:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1114972623.1951.4.camel@maarten.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Tun/tap question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:37:04 -0000 Hi list, I am currently trying to get tun or tap working (with vde and qemu) but for some reason things don't work as I expect them: ten# vde_switch -tap tap0 -daemon ; ifconfig tap0 192.168.1.254 ; chmod 777 /tmp/vde.ctl ifconfig: interface tap0 does not exist Could it be I am missing a kernel option? vde_switch is working without tap, I can between to linux'es in qemu. ten# uname -a FreeBSD maarten.lan 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Sun May 1 12:03:54 CEST 2005 maarten@maarten.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Thanks, Maarten From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 18:45:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB5916A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:45:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from crumpet.united-ware.com (ddsl-66-42-172-210.fuse.net [66.42.172.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E3643D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:45:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (ppp-69-219-80-30.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.219.80.30]) (authenticated bits=0)j41ICljO089595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 1 May 2005 14:12:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:46:17 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42751CA4.1060009@houston.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <42751CA4.1060009@houston.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2807780.qh7hB7Zreb"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505011446.25689.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on crumpet.united-ware.com cc: Ryan Winograd Subject: Re: X11 Forwarding Apps already running X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:45:57 -0000 --nextPart2807780.qh7hB7Zreb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 01 May 2005 02:15 pm, Ryan Winograd wrote: > Is it possible to forward an already running X application? And > then send it back to its original location so that I can close the > remote workstation and leave the app running? > I've been trying google for an answer, and some man pages, but > can't find an answer. > You might want to checkout xmove in the ports. =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart2807780.qh7hB7Zreb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCdSQBxqA5ziudZT0RAsNxAJ9eK5g5mei2ZWl19WtImot7JIxJCgCdGfVN EAUFsHCsdbIlPrs8CLw7kzE= =SyIp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2807780.qh7hB7Zreb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 19:19:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC6616A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:19:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from info6.gawab.com (info6.gawab.com [204.97.230.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBC9B43D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:19:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jlalarcon@gawab.com) Received: (qmail 29166 invoked by uid 1004); 1 May 2005 19:17:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Endeavour.lordofunix.org) (jlalarcon@gawab.com@83.40.134.102) by gawab.com with SMTP; 1 May 2005 19:17:50 -0000 X-Trusted: Whitelisted From: Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez To: Lista freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:21:53 +0200 Message-Id: <1114975313.1115.6.camel@Endeavour.lordofunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OpenGL packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 19:19:38 -0000 Hi. I want to do OpenGL programming under my FreeBSD 5.4-RC3 system, but i am not able to find what packages i must have installed. Any kind of help, please?. Sorry for the simple question, but really i can't find the name of the packages for the OpenGL programming. Thanks you, very much, in advance. Regards. Jose. -- http://www.lordofunix.org Not Registered GNU/Hurd User. Registered BSD User 51101. Registered Linux User #213309. Memories..... You are talking about memories. Rick Deckard. Blade Runner. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 19:35:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B97D16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:35:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6F843D31 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin@gish.demon.nl) Received: from gish.demon.nl ([83.160.27.223]:14114 helo=[192.168.1.35]) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DSKDV-00086c-1F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2005 19:35:01 +0000 From: Kiffin Gish To: Lista freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:35:00 +0200 Message-Id: <1114976100.1134.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DHCP using ifconfig doesn't work ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 19:35:02 -0000 I want to use DHCP for my wireless connection by placing the following lines in my /etc/rc.conf file: ifconfig_wi0="DHCP" ifconfig_wi0="ssid GISH mode auto wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890" I have also tried running sysinstall again and reconfiguring my wireless connection by answering 'yes' to DHCP. However, these do not work for some weird reason. When I login as root and run 'dhclient wi0' then all is a-okay. How can I have this happen automatically during boot without having manually to run this command as root everytime? Thanks alot in advance as usual. -- Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 19:57:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C14116A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:57:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5F143D48 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:57:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])E11E418001A6 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:57:10 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 1 May 2005 19:57:10 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D2D424BEAD; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:57:10 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 01 May 2005 14:57:10 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: estover@nativenerds.com Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:57:10 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050501195710.D2D424BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 19:57:11 -0000 Hehe :) Yeah named is running. /etc/rc.d/named start && ps -ax | grep named: 247 ?? Ss 0:00.79 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/v= ar/run/log -s 261 ?? Ss 0:37.36 /usr/sbin/named -u bind -t /var/named -- Fafa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Stover" To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 11:45:24 -0600 >=20 > On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 05:32 -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > I haven't done anything out of the ordinary. > > > > /etc/rc.d/named reload (or stop or start) > > > > doesn't say anything weird. > > > > Thanks, > > -- Fafa > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ed Stover" > > To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" > > Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! > > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:11:28 -0600 > > > > > > On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 09:19 -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > > > hey! > > > > > > > > My BIND just stopped working! > > > > > > > > 1) My domain is still registered > > > > 2) My configuration hasn't changed since it stopped working. > > > > prior to that, it has been running flawlessly for months. > > > > > > > > There is nothing in my /var/named/log, so I am totally > > > > clueless. /etc/rc.conf contains named_enable=3D"YES" > > > > > > > > Since my /var/named/etc/namedb configuration is in fact > > > > 100% operational, I've decided to rule that out in this > > > > plea for help. The problem must lie elsewhere. > > > > > > > > Anyone able to help? > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > -- Fafa > > > > > > > First off, what have you done with that machine before it stopped > > > working? when you try to start named does it produce any error > > > messages? > > > You are not being helpful. lol, try this > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/bind start > ps -ax |grep named > Now is there a named running? --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 19:57:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271C116A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:57:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AE743D4C for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:57:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobias.fendin@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81.227.162.56) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.1.026.7) (authenticated as u18317830) id 42662CF1002E6F9F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:57:48 +0200 Message-ID: <427534BC.5070203@telia.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:57:48 +0200 From: Tobias Fendin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050403) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1114976100.1134.7.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1114976100.1134.7.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DHCP using ifconfig doesn't work ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 19:57:50 -0000 Kiffin Gish wrote: >I want to use DHCP for my wireless connection by placing the following >lines in my /etc/rc.conf file: > >ifconfig_wi0="DHCP" >ifconfig_wi0="ssid GISH mode auto wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890" > >I have also tried running sysinstall again and reconfiguring my wireless >connection by answering 'yes' to DHCP. > >However, these do not work for some weird reason. When I login as root >and run 'dhclient wi0' then all is a-okay. > >How can I have this happen automatically during boot without having >manually to run this command as root everytime? > >Thanks alot in advance as usual. > > If you do like that, first ifconfig_wi0 will be set to "DHCP", then it will be overwritten and set to "ssid GISH mode auto wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890". You should only have one line with ifconfig_wi0. //Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 20:29:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B3A16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:29:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail48-s.fg.online.no (mail48-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3564443D39 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from janchris@stud.ntnu.no) Received: from [192.168.123.1] (ti500710a080-14787.bb.online.no [85.167.185.195])j41KTII7005815; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:29:19 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jan C. Meyer" To: Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 22:29:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1114975313.1115.6.camel@Endeavour.lordofunix.org> In-Reply-To: <1114975313.1115.6.camel@Endeavour.lordofunix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505012229.17086.janchris@stud.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenGL packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:29:22 -0000 Hello, Jose. > I want to do OpenGL programming under my FreeBSD 5.4-RC3 system, but i > am not able to find what packages i must have installed. > Any kind of help, please?. If you have X11 in place, everything is probably already there, you just need to link to the right libraries. I compile my OpenGL stuff thusly: gcc -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lglut -lGL -lpthread -lm \ -o glprogram glprogram.c Should work for you too. Cheers, -Jan Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 21:18:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9A816A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:18:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B7643D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB73117BA; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4275477C.8050505@chuckr.org> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:17:48 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subhro References: <42751049.1010800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42751049.1010800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1 Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:18:12 -0000 Subhro wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Is there any way to generate 5.1 output with Creative Sound Blaster > Live! 5.1 sound card when a 5.1 souce file like AC3 is played? The > driver which is included with the 5.4 is just stereo :-( > I don't think that's true at all. First requirement, though, is digital interfacing. Then, you'll want a program called a52dec, it's in ports, by that name, but I forget where exactly. That's the decoder function. You'll want a card that supports this. The soundblaster Audigy is very cheap, and fully supported by the emu10k1 driver. Support in Linux is also great, I love that card, and it's cheap. The driver outputs both analog and digital simultaneously. I would very much like to have a source file that had fully separated test toones, one ofor each channel, so that I could test and verify the 5.1 operation, but I must rely upon my ear, and very poorly separated sources. Under those circumstances, I guess I could not really warrant its correct operation. > Regards > S. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 21:46:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB36C16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:46:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from straycat.dhs.org (c-24-60-174-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.60.174.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145FD43D41 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tmclaugh@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from compass.straycat.dhs.org (compass.straycat.dhs.org [192.168.1.48]) by straycat.dhs.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j41LlfZf011895 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:47:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom McLaughlin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:46:08 -0400 Message-Id: <1114983968.1712.2.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pdksh and binding escape sequences to shell commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:46:05 -0000 I'm wondering if any pdksh users can tell me how to bind an escape sequence to a command. I want to bind the Home key (^[OH) to beginning-of-line. I tried the following but I get a weird result. bind '^[OH'=beginning-of-line When I hit the home key the cursor jumps to the beginning of the line but then prints an H. For example: $ foo (hit Home key) $ Hfoo (The cursor now rests after the H.) Anybody know how to handle getting something like the Home key bound to a command? Thanks. Tom -- BSD# Project - Porting Mono to FreeBSD http://www.mono-project.com/Mono:FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 22:21:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8B116A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:21:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mbc.edu (mail.mbc.edu [216.57.240.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3991843D1D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:21:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ckleski@mbc.edu) Received: from [192.168.0.101] by mbc.edu (Cipher TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.0f2.R) with ESMTP id md50004798301.msg for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:21:03 -0400 From: ckleski@mbc.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:22:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <1114976100.1134.7.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1114976100.1134.7.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505011822.40221.ckleski@mbc.edu> X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Message: md50004798301.msg X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Rules: tgibseut-MDPv0.53b (SNFv2-3.1i2) No patterns matched. X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Result: 0 X-Authenticated-Sender: ckleski@mbc.edu X-Spam-Processed: mail.mbc.edu, Sun, 01 May 2005 18:21:03 -0400 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 192.168.0.101 does not match 65.202.151.105 X-MDRemoteIP: 65.202.151.105 X-Return-Path: ckleski@mbc.edu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail.mbc.edu, Sun, 01 May 2005 18:21:06 -0400 Subject: Re: DHCP using ifconfig doesn't work ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:21:22 -0000 You can make a file /etc/start_if.wi0 which has the line ifconfig ssid GISH mode auto wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890 Keep ifconfig_wi0="DHCP" in /etc/rc.conf. That should do it. On Sunday 01 May 2005 07:35 pm, Kiffin Gish wrote: > I want to use DHCP for my wireless connection by placing the following > lines in my /etc/rc.conf file: > > ifconfig_wi0="DHCP" > ifconfig_wi0="ssid GISH mode auto wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890" > > I have also tried running sysinstall again and reconfiguring my wireless > connection by answering 'yes' to DHCP. > > However, these do not work for some weird reason. When I login as root > and run 'dhclient wi0' then all is a-okay. > > How can I have this happen automatically during boot without having > manually to run this command as root everytime? > > Thanks alot in advance as usual. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 22:55:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDB416A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:55:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605D143D1D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566F355851 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520EE16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:55:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C763C43D1D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:55:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from localhost.cenergynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DSNLq-0001k0-s2 for freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:55:50 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-195-133.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.195.133] helo=netphobia) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DSNLq-0001jw-qd for freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:55:50 +0200 Message-ID: <001901c54ea0$ee58ad50$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:55:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Subject: ipf out rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:55:52 -0000 Hi, Can anyone take a minute to just explain to me why ipf is blocking this... ipf.rules: # rl0 - Outgoing pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags block out log quick on rl0 all ipftest: opening rule file "ipf.new" in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 input: in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 pass ip 40(20) 6 196.25.1.1,2210 > x.x.x.122,22 -------------- out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 input: out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 block ip 40(20) 6 x.x.x.122,22 > 196.25.1.1,2210 Thanks. -- Chris. I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:56:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77C116A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:56:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE2643D2D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:56:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0920755449 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:56:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0445C16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:56:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A54C43D2D for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:56:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050501235652.LLPG17140.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:56:52 -0400 From: To: "Chris Knipe" , Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 19:56:47 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <001901c54ea0$ee58ad50$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: ipf out rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 23:56:55 -0000 When asking for help with firewall rules you have to post complete content of firewall rule set file because some previous rule may be dropping all packets. If this is your complete rule set them you are missing the mandatory L0 interface rule to pass quick all. rl0 must be Nic connected to public internet. x.x.x.120/29 is ip address range of pc's on private LAN behind firewall. This is not much of firewall with everything being allowed out. You could replace all of these meaning less statements with pass quick all from any to any You really need to read firewall section of the official handbook. It has working examples of ipf.rules rule set along with detailed explanation of how to build firewall rules. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Knipe Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 6:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org Subject: ipf out rule Hi, Can anyone take a minute to just explain to me why ipf is blocking this... ipf.rules: # rl0 - Outgoing pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags block out log quick on rl0 all ipftest: opening rule file "ipf.new" in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 input: in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 pass ip 40(20) 6 196.25.1.1,2210 > x.x.x.122,22 -------------- out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 input: out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 block ip 40(20) 6 x.x.x.122,22 > 196.25.1.1,2210 Thanks. -- Chris. I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 01:00:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B39016A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:00:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop3.telesurf.com.kh (pop3.everyday.com.kh [203.144.65.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682BB43D31 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netroot@everyday.com.kh) Received: from pop3.telesurf.com.kh (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j41F698Z025408 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:06:14 +0700 Received: (from smmsp@localhost)j41F63Mv025385 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:06:03 +0700 X-Authentication-Warning: pop3.telesurf.com.kh: smmsp set sender to netroot@everyday.com.kh using -f Received: from 202.47.96.39 ( [202.47.96.39]) as user netroot@localhost by pop3.telesurf.com.kh with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:06:03 +0700 Message-ID: <1114959963.4274f05b26ff9@pop3.telesurf.com.kh> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 22:06:03 +0700 From: netroot@everyday.com.kh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 202.47.96.39 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: freebsd 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 01:00:51 -0000 freebsd 5.3 is release and become stable version soon, i have a question, i wanna secure my freebsd box what should i do to optimize it? ------------------------------------------------- Get your free email account with : http://www.everyday.com.kh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 01:01:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F39116A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:01:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.ixpres.com (smtp4.ixpres.com [216.240.160.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E42B43D3F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:01:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from webmail.ixpres.com (webmail.ixpres.com [216.240.160.200]) by smtp4.ixpres.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j421BOM26116 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:11:24 -0700 Received: from 64.58.171.86 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vizion@ixpres.com) by webmail.ixpres.com with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1197.64.58.171.86.1114995898.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:04:58 -0700 (PDT) From: vizion@ixpres.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: make x11 & tiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 01:01:25 -0000 Hi Trying to install x11 make is looking for tiff-3.6.1.tar.gz in my\usr\ports\distfiles failing which it searches on internet but isunable to find. I have obtained 3.7.1.tar.gz via ftp which is now in my distfiles. Should I: (a) Find version 3.6.1 (if so does anyone know where from) or (b) make changes in the Makefile? (c) simply change the file name? (d) do something a lot smarter that I do not know about? Thanks David Southwell Ham call sign M0TAU 40 yrs ocean and computing experience. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. sailing May bound for Europe via Panama Canal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 01:06:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A9B16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:06:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7405343D4C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:06:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-196-020.ec.res.rr.com [65.184.196.20])j4216rL4001792; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42757FE0.3090507@ec.rr.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:18:24 -0400 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050426) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vizion@ixpres.com References: <1197.64.58.171.86.1114995898.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <1197.64.58.171.86.1114995898.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make x11 & tiff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 01:06:57 -0000 vizion@ixpres.com wrote: >Hi >Trying to install x11 make is looking for tiff-3.6.1.tar.gz in >my\usr\ports\distfiles failing which it searches on internet but isunable >to find. I have obtained 3.7.1.tar.gz via ftp which is now in my >distfiles. > >Should I: >(a) Find version 3.6.1 (if so does anyone know where from) or >(b) make changes in the Makefile? >(c) simply change the file name? >(d) do something a lot smarter that I do not know about? >Thanks > > >David Southwell Ham call sign M0TAU > > 40 yrs ocean >and computing >experience. >English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V >Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. sailing May bound for Europe via >Panama Canal. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > cvsup your ports, freshports.org shows tiff 3.7.2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 01:18:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC0216A4CE; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:18:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62AF43D1F; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:18:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@asu.edu) Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0IFU000018Z9RD@asu.edu>; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:18:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail3.asu.edu (webmail3.asu.edu [129.219.117.232]) <0IFU00NJ28Z90O@asu.edu>; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:18:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from emma@localhost) by webmail3.asu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j421IfAa006671; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:18:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 18:18:41 -0700 (MST) From: iqgrande@asu.edu X-Originating-IP: 24.30.63.114 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <1114996721.42757ff1e12a4@webmail.asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Authentication-warning: webmail3.asu.edu: emma set sender to aagelast@imap2.asu.edu using -f cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Scanning under FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 01:18:49 -0000 Hello everyone, I posted an email sometime back asking for help getting my scanner to work under FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. Upon not receiving any responses, I did some more research and tinkering and decided to update to FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE to see if that would fix the problem and it has not. In any event, when I try to scan something as root, I receive the following error: ast# sane-find-scanner -q found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x0205) at /dev/uscanner0 ast# scanimage -L device `niash:/dev/uscanner0' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 3300C flatbed scanner ast# scanimage > image.pnm scanimage: open of device niash:/dev/uscanner0 failed: Device busy I have read the chapter on scanning in the Handbook, as well as doing Google searching and even posting to the sane-devel list. Does anyone else have any insight that they can give with this problem? I can get sane-backends, with libusb, to work with this scanner on my PowerBook running Mac OS X 10.3, so I know the scanner and the software should work; I just think I have something misconfigured, either with it or with something else. In case it is necessary, my uname output is below and the full list of installed packages is beneath it. Thank you for your help. ast# uname -a FreeBSD ast.home.iq 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Sat Apr 30 18:48:07 EDT 2005 root@ast.home.iq:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 ORBit2-2.12.2 High-performance CORBA ORB with support for the C language Xaw3d-1.5_1 A 3-D Athena Widget set that looks like Motif aalib-1.4.r5_1 An ascii art library amspsfnt-1.0_3 AMSFonts PostScript Fonts (Adobe Type 1 format) atk-1.9.1 A GNOME accessibility toolkit (ATK) autoconf-2.13.000227_5 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms autoconf-2.53_3 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms autoconf-2.59_2 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms automake-1.5_2,1 GNU Standards-compliant Makefile generator (version 1.5) bison-1.75_2 A parser generator from FSF, (mostly) compatible with Yacc bitstream-vera-1.10_1 Bitstream Vera TrueType font collection cmpsfont-1.0_4 Computer Modern PostScript Fonts (Adobe Type 1 format) cups-1.1.23.0 The Common UNIX Printing System: Metaport to install comple cups-base-1.1.23.0_4 The Common UNIX Printing System: headers, libs, & daemons cups-lpr-1.1.23.0 The CUPS BSD and system V compatibility binaries (lp* comma cups-pstoraster-7.07_3 GNU Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS prin cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_2 General network file distribution system optimized for CVS desktop-file-utils-0.10_2 A couple of command line utilities for working with desktop dri-6.2.1,2 OpenGL hardware acceleration drivers for the DRI dvipsk-tetex-5.95a_1 Convert a TeX DVI file to PostScript emacs-21.3_5 GNU editing macros expat-1.95.8_1 XML 1.0 parser written in C ezm3-1.2 Easier, more portable Modula-3 distribution for building CV fam-2.6.9_6 A file alteration monitor firefox-1.0.3,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla fontconfig-2.2.3,1 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows freetype2-2.1.9 A free and portable TrueType font rendering engine gconf2-2.10.0 A configuration database system for GNOME gd-2.0.33_1,1 A graphics library for fast creation of images gettext-0.14.1 GNU gettext package ghostscript-gnu-7.07_12 GNU Postscript interpreter gimp-2.2.6,1 A GNU Image Manipulation Program gimp-print-4.2.7_1 GIMP Print Printer Driver glib-1.2.10_11 Some useful routines of C programming (previous stable vers glib-2.6.4 Some useful routines of C programming (current stable versi gmake-3.80_2 GNU version of 'make' utility gnomehier-2.0_6 A utility port that creates the GNOME directory tree gnomemimedata-2.4.2 A MIME and Application database for GNOME gnomevfs2-2.10.1 GNOME Virtual File System gnutls-1.0.24_1 GNU Transport Layer Security library gsfonts-8.11_2 Fonts used by GNU Ghostscript (or X) gtk-1.2.10_13 Gimp Toolkit for X11 GUI (previous stable version) gtk-2.6.7 Gimp Toolkit for X11 GUI (current stable version) gtk-engines2-2.6.3_3 Theme engine for the gtk+-2.0 toolkit help2man-1.35.1 Automatically generating simple manual pages from program o hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project imake-6.8.2 Imake and other utilities from X.Org intltool-0.33 Tools to internationalize various kinds of data files jpeg-6b_3 IJG's jpeg compression utilities ksh93-20050202 Official AT&T release of KornShell 93 lcms-1.14,1 Light Color Management System -- a color management library libIDL-0.8.5_1 A library for creating trees of CORBA Interface Definition libXft-2.1.6_1 A client-sided font API for X applications libart_lgpl2-2.3.17 Library for high-performance 2D graphics libbonobo-2.8.1_1 A component and compound document system for GNOME2 libcroco-0.6.0_1 CSS2 parsing library libexif-0.6.12_1 Library to read digital camera file meta-data libgcrypt-1.2.1_1 "General purpose crypto library based on code used in GnuPG libgpg-error-1.0_1 Common error values for all GnuPG components libgphoto2-2.1.5_1 A universal digital camera picture control tool libgsf-1.11.1 An extensible i/o abstraction for dealing with structured f libiconv-1.9.2_1 A character set conversion library libijs-0.35 C library that supports plugin printer driver for Ghostscri libmikmod-3.1.11 MikMod Sound Library libmng-1.0.8 Multiple-image Network Graphics (MNG) reference library libogg-1.1.2_1,3 Ogg bitstream library librsvg2-2.9.5_2 Library for parsing and rendering SVG vector-graphic files libtool-1.3.5_2 Generic shared library support script (version 1.3) libtool-1.5.10_1 Generic shared library support script (version 1.5) libungif-4.1.3 Tools and library routines for working with GIF images libusb-0.1.10a Library giving userland programs access to USB devices libvorbis-1.1.0_1,3 Audio compression codec library libwmf-0.2.8.3 Tools and library for converting Microsoft WMF (windows met libwww-5.4.0_1 The W3C Reference Library libxml2-2.6.19 XML parser library for GNOME linc-1.0.3_3 A library for writing networked servers & clients links-2.1.p17,1 Lynx-like text WWW browser lynx-2.8.5 A non-graphical, text-based World-Wide Web client m4-1.4.3 GNU m4 open-motif-2.2.3_1 Motif X11 Toolkit (industry standard GUI (IEEE 1295)) openldap-client-2.2.24 Open source LDAP client implementation p5-XML-Parser-2.34_1 Perl extension interface to James Clark's XML parser, expat p5-gettext-1.03 Message handling functions p5-type1inst-0.6.1_2 A script that helps install Postscript fonts in X Window Sy pango-1.8.1 An open-source framework for the layout and rendering of i1 perl-5.8.6_2 Practical Extraction and Report Language pkgconfig-0.17.2 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries png-1.2.8_1 Library for manipulating PNG images popt-1.7 A getopt(3) like library with a number of enhancements, fro portaudit-0.5.9 Checks installed ports against a list of security vulnerabi portupgrade-20041226_2 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and management tool s ruby-1.8.2_3 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2 Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with full featu samba-3.0.14a,1 A free SMB and CIFS client and server for UNIX sane-backends-1.0.15 API for access to scanners, digitals camera, frame grabbers sane-frontends-1.0.13_2 Tools for access to scanners, digitals camera, frame grabbe shared-mime-info-0.16_1 A MIME type database from the FreeDesktop project t1lib-5.0.1,1 A Type 1 Rasterizer Library for UNIX/X11 teTeX-3.0 A meta port for teTeX suite teTeX-base-3.0_3 Thomas Esser's distribution of TeX & friends (binaries) teTeX-texmf-3.0_3 Thomas Esser's distribution of TeX & friends (texmf tree) tex-texmflocal-1.9 Meta-port that creates a site-local $TEXMF directory texi2html-1.76_1,1 Texinfo to HTML converter thunderbird-1.0.2_1 Mozilla Thunderbird is standalone mail and news that stands tiff-3.7.2 Tools and library routines for working with TIFF images unzip-5.52_1 List, test and extract compressed files in a ZIP archive windowmaker-0.91.0 GNUStep-compliant NeXTStep window manager clone wmicons-1.0 Icons mainly for use in Window Maker xdvik-tetex-22.84.8_1 DVI Previewer(kpathsearch) for X xmms-1.2.10_4 X Multimedia System --- An audio player with a Winamp GUI xorg-6.8.2 X.Org distribution metaport xorg-clients-6.8.2 X client programs and related files from X.Org xorg-documents-6.8.2 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.8.2 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-encodings-6.8.2 X.Org font encoding files xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.8.2 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-6.8.2 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-6.8.2 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fontserver-6.8.2 X font server from X.Org xorg-libraries-6.8.2 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org xorg-nestserver-6.8.2 Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.8.2 X Print server from X.Org xorg-server-6.8.2 X.Org X server and related programs xorg-vfbserver-6.8.2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org xsane-0.96 Gtk-based X11 frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy) xterm-201 Terminal emulator for the X Window System zip-2.3_2 Create/update ZIP files compatible with pkzip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 02:57:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5E316A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 02:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6147443D3F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 02:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.150?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2005 02:57:06 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050429214445.GB57046@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1114807030.3078.12.camel@chaucer> <20050429214445.GB57046@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1115002625.89282.3.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:57:05 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports update gone badly wrong X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 02:57:08 -0000 On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 17:44, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 04:37:10PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote: > > I think I have made a horrendeous mess of my workstation. I have been > > running 5.3 with no problem, and then I tried to csvup the ports files, > > using the following section in ports-supfile. Note I didn't change the > > release tag! I updated a few of the ports, including Evolution and > > Firefox, and had trouble with missing libraries, such as libgthread .. > > 400 having been rename to ..600.. > > > > The machine now feels less stable than an old version of Windows. > > Things like Tk.pm and other Perl modules no longer work, and won't > > reinstall. I had to copy over the missing libraries for Evolution and > > Firefox from another machine. > > > > Any advice for recovery, other than a re-installation and fresh start? > > What should I do next time? > > Use portupgrade to update your ports. What you did wrong was updated > a port that provides a library without updating the ports that depend > on that library. > > Kris Thanks for the varying replies. I tried running portupgrade -arR, and it seems to have worked quite well - almost all the ports are now up to date, and the system seems to work properly. It took over 24 hours, partly because some ports stop and ask questions, and the process needs occasional attention. I think I will manage as I am for a while, and either install 5.4RC, or wait for the 5.4 release, which should be in a few weeks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 03:01:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB13A16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:01:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532F543D54 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:01:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8E46251F7B; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:01:52 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Jeays Message-ID: <20050502030152.GA30662@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1114807030.3078.12.camel@chaucer> <20050429214445.GB57046@xor.obsecurity.org> <1115002625.89282.3.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1115002625.89282.3.camel@chaucer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Ports update gone badly wrong X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 03:01:54 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:57:05PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote: > On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 17:44, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 04:37:10PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote: > > > I think I have made a horrendeous mess of my workstation. I have been > > > running 5.3 with no problem, and then I tried to csvup the ports file= s, > > > using the following section in ports-supfile. Note I didn't change t= he > > > release tag! I updated a few of the ports, including Evolution and > > > Firefox, and had trouble with missing libraries, such as libgthread .. > > > 400 having been rename to ..600.. > > >=20 > > > The machine now feels less stable than an old version of Windows.=20 > > > Things like Tk.pm and other Perl modules no longer work, and won't > > > reinstall. I had to copy over the missing libraries for Evolution and > > > Firefox from another machine. > > >=20 > > > Any advice for recovery, other than a re-installation and fresh start? > > > What should I do next time? > >=20 > > Use portupgrade to update your ports. What you did wrong was updated > > a port that provides a library without updating the ports that depend > > on that library. > >=20 > > Kris >=20 > Thanks for the varying replies. I tried running portupgrade -arR, and > it seems to have worked quite well - almost all the ports are now up to > date, and the system seems to work properly. It took over 24 hours, > partly because some ports stop and ask questions, and the process needs > occasional attention. You can choose the default settings by setting the BATCH environment variable. Kris --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCdZgfWry0BWjoQKURAk4RAKDY/x9M66hT1hMsckHyZZjWEMArHQCbBLhC 9/xSbExs9ujqd3uRcr1U2no= =BT1M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 03:16:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721F416A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:16:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from proxy.ddcom.co.jp (proxy.ddcom.co.jp [211.121.191.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55B2343D31 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rees@ddcom.co.jp) Received: (qmail 18801 invoked by alias); 2 May 2005 03:27:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO matthew) (10.10.10.11) by mail.ddcom.local with SMTP; 2 May 2005 03:27:56 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:16:08 +0900 From: Joel To: FreeBSD questions In-Reply-To: <20050429023102.15524.qmail@web54008.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050429023102.15524.qmail@web54008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <20050502121053.22C5.REES@ddcom.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.06 Subject: Re: What is ata2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 03:16:11 -0000 > > > Eventually I would like to achieve this: > > > I have another, very old, PC with following > > > configuration: > > > IDE/0 (on motherboard) master and slave HDs > > > IDE/1 (on motherboard) -broken- > > > > > > I like to use this soundcard/IDE controller for > > > adding a CDrom to this very old PC. The OS of > > > this PC is 4-Stable. > > > > I don't think it'll work for that - too bastardized. > > I don't know what they did but they might have > > changed the pinout or something so that it > > was only compatible with Creative CD-ROMs. In the > > best case, if you got it to work, it would be > > deathly slow. > > Too bad, as the soundcard itself seems to be > recognized properly by 5-Stable: Well, one question might be how fast you need it to be. Another, of course, is how the time spent trying to bring it up and the education gained thereby would compare with just requisitioning a card for the borked motherboard. Yet another question could be how much the lab wants to invest on a slow motherboard with broken curcuitry (which might also depend on what borked the on-board ATA controller). ATA controllers can be pretty cheap, particularly if you don't need to boot from them or build raid on them. Motherboards aren't necessarily all that expensive, either, especially if the application doesn't demand fast response. > # kldload snd_sb16 > # kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 9 0xc0400000 275764 kernel > 2 2 0xc0676000 18a44 miibus.ko > 3 1 0xc068f000 6b98 if_rl.ko > 4 1 0xc0696000 b1b8 random.ko > 5 1 0xc1118000 4000 snd_sb16.ko > 6 2 0xc111c000 18000 sound.ko > 7 1 0xc113b000 4000 snd_sbc.ko > > # cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:5 > bufsz 4096d kld snd_sb16 (1p/1r/0v channels > duplex default) > > Anyway, if I buy a PCI IDE controller, would that > work easily with FreeBSD (4- or 5-Stable alike) ? If you do buy a controller, check the hardware compatibility list and also check that the board works with a slow, older motherboard. My impression is that support for some boards is not compiled in, so you may be faced with compiling your own kernel. (If I understand the handbook correctly.) I am faced with exactly this question, but I have a lot of other problems with higher priority, so I've been dodging it. -- Joel Rees digitcom, inc. $B3t<02q ** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 04:17:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A0516A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:17:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD9543D1D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:17:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DSSNQ-000DnG-Bq; Sun, 01 May 2005 22:17:48 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Message-Id: <6137E173-5AC6-4BF4-A5DC-D0C78B426EC3@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 22:17:46 -0600 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: Chad Leigh Subject: mail/sendmail submit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 04:17:49 -0000 Hi I am trying to allow mail submission and sending on a 5.3-RELEASE box from inside a jail, but not a running MTA... I have the following in the rc.conf sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" # Start a localhost-only MTA for mail submission sendmail_outbound_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck mail (YES/NO). sendmail_msp_queue_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck clientmqueue mail (YES/NO). Since you cannot bind to localhost only in a jail I have that set to NO. The /etc/mail/README file says to change the freebsd.submit.mc file and remake things so that it submits to another host. I have done that by doing the "Change the FEATURE(msp) line to FEATURE(msp, hostname) where hostname is the fully qualified hostname of the alternative host." and then "'make install-submit-cf' in /etc/mail/". When I try to do a mail on the command line, I get: root@machine:/home/chad# can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser. Where do I set this TrustedUser and how do I make the mail program work as a TrustedUser? I grepped TrustedUser in /etc/mail/* and got freebsd.cf:#O TrustedUser=root freebsd.submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp machine.com.submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp sendmail.cf:#O TrustedUser=root submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp so it seems to be set to smmsp which is a valid user in the password file. Thanks for any help or pointers on getting this to work. Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 05:46:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E98E16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 05:46:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DADB43D31 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 05:46:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 28930 invoked by uid 510); 2 May 2005 06:50:33 +0100 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/710. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.7/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 2 May 2005 06:50:30 +0100 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <1114959963.4274f05b26ff9@pop3.telesurf.com.kh> References: <1114959963.4274f05b26ff9@pop3.telesurf.com.kh> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1115013029.28606.0.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 06:50:30 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 05:46:51 -0000 On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 16:06, netroot@everyday.com.kh wrote: > freebsd 5.3 is release and become stable version soon, > i have a question, i wanna secure my freebsd box what should i do to optimize > it? > Try the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security.html Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 05:54:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624AD16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 05:54:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54003.mail.yahoo.com (web54003.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0EA043D49 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 05:54:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 55428 invoked by uid 60001); 2 May 2005 05:54:30 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 05:54:31 -0000 Joel wrote: > > Yet another question could be how much the lab > wants to invest on a slow motherboard with broken > curcuitry (which might also depend on what borked > the on-board ATA controller). Although it's going a bit out-of-topic, the situation is that the Windows desease is very effective here. Only unused, redundant computers are available for my alien Unix experiments. Hence my trouble with ata2 on an old PC. However, I'm not too unhappy with all this, since one of my hobbies has become to give discarded computers a second Unix life, in which they sometimes outperform the newer ones powered by Windows..... Having one such old PC now running FreeBSD and being used for data acquisition, is one of my personal victories in the lab :). 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 06:04:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4CB16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.ixpres.com (smtp4.ixpres.com [216.240.160.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B9A43D31 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:04:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from webmail.ixpres.com (webmail.ixpres.com [216.240.160.200]) by smtp4.ixpres.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j426E3M25286 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:14:03 -0700 Received: from 64.58.171.91 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vizion@ixpres.com) by webmail.ixpres.com with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:07:36 -0700 (PDT) From: vizion@ixpres.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Ignorance and file suffixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 06:04:05 -0000 Hi I have tried unsuccessfuly to find out from the manual what the suffixes mean on the files collected by cvsup (e.g. "v") is there a reference for such info? As a newcomer to cvsup when reading the cvsup pages I did not see any recomendations for good practice for management or use of the files once they have been downloaded. I am pretty familar with downloading tar files and the processes of extracting and compiling. With so many packages/ports coming at the same time (I am half way through my first cvsup right now) I am wondering what I need to do when the downloads are complete! David David Southwell Ham call sign M0TAU 40 yrs ocean and computing experience. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. sailing May bound for Europe via Panama Canal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 06:11:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE5116A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:11:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B855A43D1F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:11:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from baysao@mail.ru) Received: from [217.16.23.61] (port=3488 helo=thanhvu) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DSU91-00071R-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:11:03 +0400 From: "baysao" To: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 22:11:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcVO1WMp54FgUulNT26O103beFr8CQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: AC'97 Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 06:11:05 -0000 >>Hello! >>I recently installed the FreeBSD 5.3-BETA4-STABLE version of the FreeBSD >>operating system. I have a MSI mainboard with AC'97 built-in sound card. >>I compiled my kernel with "device sound" but it doesn't seem to get the >>job done. Is there a way to activate my sound card with this version of >>FreeBSD and how? >>Thank you for your time and consideration! >>Sincerely, >>Mihail Stoyanov Try to add this line in /boot/loader.conf : snd_ich_load="YES" I have the same problem as yours, then i was successed when do that. baysao. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 06:22:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8F316A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:22:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0398B43D48 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:22:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from baysao@mail.ru) Received: from [217.16.23.61] (port=3490 helo=thanhvu) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DSUKX-000B34-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:22:57 +0400 From: "baysao" To: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 22:23:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcVO1w0LWfMilFNfTuK3jEPychD7hQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: AC97 support ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 06:22:59 -0000 >>Hello! >>I recently installed the FreeBSD 5.3-BETA4-STABLE version of the FreeBSD >>operating system. I have a MSI mainboard with AC'97 built-in sound card. >>I compiled my kernel with "device sound" but it doesn't seem to get the >>job done. Is there a way to activate my sound card with this version of >>FreeBSD and how? >>Thank you for your time and consideration! >>Sincerely, >>Mihail Stoyanov I forget something to say you. You must modify file /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c that look line { 0x41445363, 0x00, 0, "AD1886A", 0 }, { 0x41445368, 0x00, 0, "AD1888", ad198x_patch }, => add this line; { 0x41445370, 0x00, 0, "AD1980", ad198x_patch }, After that you must unload snd_ich $kldunload snd_ich And again load snd_ich for affect that modified ac97.c $kldload snd_ich Then you can using enter Control Center active sound card, listen sound test. I sure it must be ok at this point. baysao. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 06:32:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4243B16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:32:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB58843D1D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:32:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 30F725642E; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:32:23 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:32:23 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: vizion@ixpres.com Message-ID: <20050502063223.GA55451@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ignorance and file suffixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 06:32:26 -0000 On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:07:36PM -0700, vizion@ixpres.com wrote: > Hi > > I have tried unsuccessfuly to find out from the manual what the suffixes > mean on the files collected by cvsup (e.g. "v") is there a reference for > such info? Files with a ,v suffix are RCS files, usually used by CVS. I don't think you intentionally want those files. Your supfile may have an error in it; please show us your supfile. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 08:24:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9941216A4D1 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:24:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B643943D46 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:24:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id C90C513B84F; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:24:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0768913B816; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:24:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j428OHd1042550; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:24:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:24:17 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Clement Twine Message-ID: <20050502082417.GA42487@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , Clement Twine , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <4273675C.1090400@gmail.com> <20050430122748.GC16298@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <42737CEF.8060304@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42737CEF.8060304@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-DCC: : kweetal.tue.nl 1074; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 5.3 on latitude d600? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:24:23 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 02:41:19PM +0200, Clement Twine wrote: > Stijn Hoop wrote the following on 04/30/2005 02:27 PM: > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 01:09:16PM +0200, Clement Twine wrote: > > > has anyone installed freebsd 5.3 on a dell latitude d600? have > > > the following worked "out-of-the-box"? > > > > > > WiFi: Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter > > > > Not out of the box but there's a driver in -CURRENT for it: > > iwi(4). There is a version for 5.3 on Damien Bergamini's website > > afaik (google for it). >=20 > ok, but this laptop is like - 3 years old? anyway, i'll look there. This is due to a lot of circumstance, most of it political: - at first every wireless vendor refused to release programming information, except for a select few. - now, although the programming information is out in the open, Intel refuses to release the needed firmware for the chipset under a license that is compatible for open source projects to include it these two facts do not help regular driver development. In fact, the original author of the BSD drivers for Intel wireless chips is also the primary author of the cooperative Ralink Technology chipset driver; given a choice it would be wise to choose a wireless adapter with that chipset over the Intel ones. Anyway you don't really have a choice, just explaining why things are as they are. > > > ACPI especially suspend to RAM? > > > > Haven't gotten that to work although apparently disabling USB > > helps. >=20 > hmm.. wouldnt disable usb on my laptop - and SuSE 9.2 currently > installed does this well. Maybe this has changed in recent -CURRENTs, I haven't tried it in a while. > My major concern is suspend to RAM. I use FreeBSD, but not on my > laptop so far. Looks like i have to wait a while for the ACPI to > fully 'mature' on freeBSD ;) I *hate* having to shutdown my laptoy :) Just try it out. 5.4 has a lot of improvements and I haven't tried suspend in a few releases so maybe you're in for a nice surprise. --Stijn --=20 "What if everything you see is more than what you see -- the person next to you is a warrior and the space that appears empty is a secret door to anoth= er world? What if something appears that shouldn't? You either dismiss it, or = you accept that there is much more to the world than you think. Perhaps it real= ly is a doorway, and if you choose to go inside, you'll find many unexpected things." -- Shigeru Miyamoto --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCdeOxY3r/tLQmfWcRAoHOAJ9cWDe/ZYOKYPVqLnNdRf4P7hGLAgCfRH0P b6ZIyHUDDgztCZksOROljCQ= =rDkd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 08:29:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F46216A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:29:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D64343D31 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:29:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (netch@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua with ESMTP id j428Tp7s021787; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:29:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@burka.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j428TpSN021783; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:29:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:29:51 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: vizion@ixpres.com Message-ID: <20050502082951.GC81673@lucky.net> References: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> X-42: On X-Verify-Sender: Address has been verified (burka.carrier.kiev.ua) X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Mail Servers on kozlik.carrier.kiev.ua host X-Antivirus-Code: 100000 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ignorance and file suffixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: netch@lucky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:29:58 -0000 Sun, May 01, 2005 at 23:07:36, vizion wrote about "Ignorance and file suffixes": > I have tried unsuccessfuly to find out from the manual what the suffixes > mean on the files collected by cvsup (e.g. "v") is there a reference for > such info? ,v is RCS and CVS suffix. You can use CVS (`info cvs') for dealing with them. But I think you simply missed tag specification from your supfile. -netch- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 08:32:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0F316A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:32:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (fed1rmmtao04.cox.net [68.230.241.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FBB43D4C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:32:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itln.stln@cox.net) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (really [68.109.175.245]) by fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050502083224.KLJP23392.fed1rmmtao04.cox.net@[192.168.0.11]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:32:25 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.11.0]); Mon, 02 May 2005 01:30:52 -0700 Message-ID: <4275E53B.9060101@cox.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 01:30:51 -0700 From: "Itln.Stln" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: 5.3 Install Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:32:26 -0000 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a ASUS P4P800S with the Intel 848P chipset and the farthest I get to is sysinstall and then my usb keyboard no longer functions. Is something in my hardware not supported or is there a work around for this. It seems like it's having problems with my usb. Here is my system setup: Pentium 4 2.8Ghz 256 MB Ram Kingston ASUS P4P800S Intel 848P chipset GeForce2 GTS On-board sound and lan 160GB Maxtor Logitech MX310 usb mouse Cooler Master Q Alloy Keyboard (EAK-US1) usb Thanks for your help and concern. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 08:49:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3845316A4D0 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dyn-83-155-5-157.ppp.tiscali.fr (dyn-83-155-5-157.ppp.tiscali.fr [83.155.5.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6356943D49 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Valerie_Maxwell@adamsniche.com) Delivered-To: Valerie_Maxwell@adamsniche.com Received: from datafast.net.au (HELO homewrecker) by mailhub.datafast.net.au with SMTP; Mon, 02 May 2005 04:52:12 -0500 Message-ID: <20761479070317.GA6135@jwales.EINTR.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 04:52:12 -0500 From: "Ramiro Mccauley" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: Valerie_Maxwell@adamsniche.com Subject: Something i have been thinking about X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:49:55 -0000 Spice up your life! http://www.searchforadate.net/a5/ PS:no.more? http://www.searchforadate.net/rmv/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 08:52:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB73A16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:52:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smta08.mail.ozemail.net (smta08.mail.ozemail.net [203.103.165.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D0443D1F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:52:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wshrubsole@ozemail.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([210.84.226.79]) by smta08.mail.ozemail.net with ESMTP id <20050502085213.QHOC1736.smta08.mail.ozemail.net@[192.168.1.10]>; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:52:13 +0000 Message-ID: <4275EA1A.8040500@ozemail.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:21:38 +0930 From: Wayne User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Itln.Stln" References: <4275E53B.9060101@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4275E53B.9060101@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:52:15 -0000 Itln.Stln wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a ASUS P4P800S with the Intel > 848P chipset and the farthest I get to is sysinstall and then my usb > keyboard no longer functions. Is something in my hardware not > supported or is there a work around for this. It seems like it's > having problems with my usb. Here is my system setup: > > Pentium 4 2.8Ghz > 256 MB Ram Kingston > ASUS P4P800S Intel 848P chipset > GeForce2 GTS > On-board sound and lan > 160GB Maxtor > Logitech MX310 usb mouse > Cooler Master Q Alloy Keyboard (EAK-US1) usb > > Thanks for your help and concern. > > press 6 when you get to the boot prompt (with an ascii pic) and type in set hint.atkbd0.flags="0x1" press enter boot press enter that should get it working HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 08:54:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9652516A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:54:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E1C43D45 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:54:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 30753 invoked by uid 510); 2 May 2005 09:58:02 +0100 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/710. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 2 May 2005 09:57:59 +0100 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1115024279.29920.24.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:57:59 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD + Heartbeat+ Samba+Rsync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:54:19 -0000 Hi, Futher to my previous mail, I have got HB & Samba running ok now on FreeBSD 5.3. I am still trying to sort out the Perl Scripts for running rsync. The bit I am having trouble with is: # /etc/password - System Password File # /etc/shadow - Actual Encrypted passwords. # /etc/group - System Group File # /etc/ld.so.conf - System Linked Libraries. # /etc/shells - Valid Login Shells my @filelist = ( "/etc/passwd", "/etc/shadow", "/etc/group", "/etc/ld.so.conf", "/etc/shells" ); foreach $filename (@filelist) { system "/usr/bin/rsync --rsh=$EnvConfig::sshpath $EnvConfig::rsyncoptions $filename local$other:$filename"; Sorry about the wrapping. As far as I tell, FreeBSD has no System linked Libraries hence no ld.so.conf. I am not sure what this bit of code is trying to do and what to replace it with. I don't want to install the Linux Compatibility libs just to run a Perl script. Any ideas? Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 09:28:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5BB16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:28:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stdin.stderror.at (stdin.stderror.at [83.65.196.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1613443D46 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:28:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pinhead@steve.stderror.at) Received: from steve.stderror.at (steve.stderror.at [83.65.196.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stdin.stderror.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F55A157 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:28:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from steve.stderror.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by steve.stderror.at (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j429TR8g058741 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:29:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pinhead@steve.stderror.at) Received: (from pinhead@localhost) by steve.stderror.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j429TRVG058740 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:29:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pinhead) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:29:27 +0200 From: Toni Schmidbauer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050502092927.GA30167@stderror.at> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050501120045.ACEFD16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Phone: +43 664 3502198 X-WWW-Home-Page: http://stderror.at X-PGP-Fingerprint: 53F2 28AE 8070 83E0 AFEC 0ABC BBF9 A34A 3ED1 3287 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: keyboard problem X won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: toni@stderror.at List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:28:15 -0000 On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:19:17AM -0400, andy@neu.net wrote: > (EE) Failed to load module "speedo" (module does not exit,0) > (EE) Failed to load module "Keyboard" (module does not exit,0) > (EE) No input driver matching 'Keyboard' > No core keyboard > > Fatal server error: > failed to inititalize core devices > > It seems the keyboard driver is missing. Any suggestions to get it > working are really appreciated. seems like a wrong Driver in Section "InputDevice" (/etc/x11/xorg.conf.) you do not say which version of x11/xorg you are running, but here is my Section "InputDevice" for xorg 6.8.1 Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "de" Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" EndSection Xorg.0.log tells me: (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.o (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" hth, toni -- Wer es einmal so weit gebracht hat, dass er nicht | toni at stderror dot at mehr irrt, der hat auch zu arbeiten aufgehoert | Toni Schmidbauer -- Max Planck | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 09:45:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E29316A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:45:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stdin.stderror.at (stdin.stderror.at [83.65.196.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE71243D55 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:45:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pinhead@steve.stderror.at) Received: from steve.stderror.at (steve.stderror.at [83.65.196.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stdin.stderror.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id D430FA157 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:45:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from steve.stderror.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by steve.stderror.at (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j429l17k058792 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:47:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pinhead@steve.stderror.at) Received: (from pinhead@localhost) by steve.stderror.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j429l051058791 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:47:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pinhead) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:47:00 +0200 From: Toni Schmidbauer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050502094700.GB30167@stderror.at> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200504302348.35647.dfarmour@myrealbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504302348.35647.dfarmour@myrealbox.com> Phone: +43 664 3502198 X-WWW-Home-Page: http://stderror.at X-PGP-Fingerprint: 53F2 28AE 8070 83E0 AFEC 0ABC BBF9 A34A 3ED1 3287 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: pkg_info output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: toni@stderror.at List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:45:45 -0000 On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 11:48:35PM -0700, David Armour wrote: > pkg_info | sort | sed -e 's/-[0-9].*$//' | uniq -c | grep -v '^[[:space:]]*1' 0) pkg_info list all packages installed 1) sort sort the resulting list from 0) by package name 2) sed -e 's/-[0-9].*$//' delete everything after a dash followed by a number followed by everything else. so autoconf-2.59_2 becomes autoconf. 3) uniq -c from the manpage: -c Precede each output line with the count of the number of times the line occurred in the input, followed by a single space. so counts how often autoconf is in the list resulting from 2) 4) grep -v '^[[:space:]]*1' delete every line starting (^) with one or more space characters " " followed by 1 in the list resulting from 3) this deletes lines where only 1 version exists, e.g.: 1 borg > 3 autoconf > 3 automake > 6 docbook > 2 gcc > 2 glib > 2 gtk > 2 libtool > 2 perl > 2 xorg-fonts so there are 3 versions of autoconf installed, 3 versions of automake and so on. the script is not quite correct because these two packages are counted as two versions of xorg-fonts: xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 homework: find a version that works :-) hth, toni -- Wer es einmal so weit gebracht hat, dass er nicht | toni at stderror dot at mehr irrt, der hat auch zu arbeiten aufgehoert | Toni Schmidbauer -- Max Planck | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 10:19:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6287F16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:19:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C334743D1D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1C155756 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:19:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED10A16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:19:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929E743D1F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DSY1I-0005Ja-qp for freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:19:20 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-195-133.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.195.133] helo=netphobia) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DSY1H-0005JW-qE for freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:19:19 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c54f00$6a9c9c50$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: References: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:19:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Subject: Re: ipf out rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:19:27 -0000 Ok, that is fair enough. I did manage to get it up and running without locking myself out though *yay* I am having 2 issues mainly. FTP doesn't work at all (PASV or not), and I am getting allot of false drops on packets which *should* be allowed... Quick dump from the log file: May 2 12:11:03 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:02.335403 rl0 @0:62 b y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN May 2 12:11:05 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:04.760397 rl0 @0:62 b y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN May 2 12:11:10 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:09.787481 rl0 @0:62 b y.y195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN May 2 12:11:20 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:19.744860 rl0 @0:62 b y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN May 2 12:11:40 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:39.760718 rl0 @0:62 b y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN /etc/ipf.rules: # lo0 - Loopback pass in quick on lo0 all keep state pass out quick on lo0 all keep state # Bad Packet Murder block in log quick all with ipopts block in log quick all with short block in log quick all with frag block return-rst in log quick proto tcp all flags FUP block return-rst in log quick proto tcp all flags FSRPAU ################################################################# # Outside Interfaces ################################################################# # rl0 - Outgoing pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags block out log quick on rl0 all ################################################################# # Block and log all remaining traffic coming into the firewall # - Block TCP with a RST (to make it appear as if the service # isn't listening) # - Block UDP with an ICMP Port Unreachable (to make it appear # as if the service isn't listening) # - Block all remaining traffic the good 'ol fashioned way ################################################################# # rl0 - Global Incoming block in quick on rl0 from 0.0.0.0/7 to any block in quick on rl0 from 2.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 5.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 23.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 27.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 31.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 69.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 70.0.0.0/7 to any block in quick on rl0 from 72.0.0.0/5 to any block in quick on rl0 from 82.0.0.0/7 to any block in quick on rl0 from 84.0.0.0/6 to any block in quick on rl0 from 88.0.0.0/5 to any block in quick on rl0 from 96.0.0.0/3 to any block in quick on rl0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 128.0.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 128.66.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any block in quick on rl0 from 191.255.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.0.0/19 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.48.0/20 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.64.0/18 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.128.0/17 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 197.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 201.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 204.152.64.0/23 to any block in quick on rl0 from 219.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 220.0.0.0/6 to any block in quick on rl0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any # rl0 - ICMP, 0 = Echo Reply, 3 = Arb Unreachable, 11 = TTL pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 0 pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 3 pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 11 # rl0 - x.x.x.122 FTP, FTP-DATA pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 21 flags S keep state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port > 49151 flags S keep state pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.122 port = 20 to any flags S keep state # rl0 - x.x.x.122 SSH pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 22 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 SMTP pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 25 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 DNS pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 53 keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 53 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 HTTP, HTTPS pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 80 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 443 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 POP3 pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 110 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 NTP pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from a.a.a.a to x.x.x.122 port = 123 keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from b.b.b.b to x.x.x.122 port = 123 keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from c.c.c.c to x.x.x.122 port = 123 keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 MySQL pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.122 port = 3306 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.123 DNS pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = 53 keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.123 Squid pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = 3128 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from y.y.0.0/16 to x.x.x.123 port = 3128 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from z.z.0.0/16 to x.x.x.123 port = 3128 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = 3130 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.123 PMX pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.122 to x.x.x.123 port = 10024 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.123 port = 18080 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.123 port = 28080 flags S keep state keep frags # Le Grande Finale block in log quick on rl0 all As always, looking forward to some help :) -- Chris. I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Chris Knipe" ; Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:56 AM Subject: RE: ipf out rule > When asking for help with firewall rules you have to post complete > content of firewall rule set file because some previous rule may be > dropping all packets. If this is your complete rule set them you are > missing the mandatory L0 interface rule to pass quick all. rl0 must > be Nic connected to public internet. x.x.x.120/29 is ip address > range of pc's on private LAN behind firewall. This is not much of > firewall with everything being allowed out. You could replace all > of these meaning less statements with pass quick all from any to > any > > You really need to read firewall section of the official handbook. > It has working examples of ipf.rules rule set along with detailed > explanation of how to build firewall rules. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Knipe > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 6:56 PM > To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org > Subject: ipf out rule > > > Hi, > > Can anyone take a minute to just explain to me why ipf is blocking > this... > > ipf.rules: > # rl0 - Outgoing > pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S > keep state > keep frags > pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state > keep > frags > pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state > keep > frags > block out log quick on rl0 all > > ipftest: > opening rule file "ipf.new" > in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 > input: in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 > pass ip 40(20) 6 196.25.1.1,2210 > x.x.x.122,22 > -------------- > out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 > input: out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 > block ip 40(20) 6 x.x.x.122,22 > 196.25.1.1,2210 > > Thanks. > > > -- > Chris. > > I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as > they > fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 10:57:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0429C16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:57:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6A743D48 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:57:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so860581rnf for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:57:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=OY1GshEsihyl4F4DWxIL3lq4Znfdi8jdP9rzoAmScaHdfLZCIb0LmiAOFGnwfIacI/yUhk4QXmc0I8CEUHZ48VmiI+YrOKYUvvICG1nBmJTdcMV6mHfmNUm3JzrmIEWSx1jOXlFJJnJNV+u/TzahKO3Kupde3Jb4DqCGyXCYqlw= Received: by 10.38.97.4 with SMTP id u4mr5602945rnb; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.163.27? ([59.93.163.27]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h19sm181865rnb.2005.05.02.03.57.17; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42760780.6080702@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:27:04 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy@neu.net References: <20050501120045.ACEFD16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020100040300070702020507" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keyboard problem X won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:57:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020100040300070702020507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/1/2005 19:49, andy@neu.net wrote: >I just upgraded from 5.3 to 5.4 RC3 via sysinstall from a cd.The >upgrade was successful however, when I try "startx" I get the >following error: > >(EE) Failed to load module "speedo" (module does not exit,0) >(EE) Failed to load module "Keyboard" (module does not exit,0) >(EE) No input driver matching 'Keyboard' >No core keyboard > > Are you running a generic kernel? If not then did you include the keyboard driver in your kernel configuration file? Regards S. -- --------------020100040300070702020507-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 11:06:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E46516A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:06:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f38.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AE943D1F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cool_mike_21@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:06:37 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.205 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:06:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.205] X-Originating-Email: [cool_mike_21@hotmail.com] X-Sender: cool_mike_21@hotmail.com From: "Michael Neeff" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:06:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 11:06:37.0555 (UTC) FILETIME=[0284CC30:01C54F07] Subject: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:06:09 -0000 Hi all, I've been trying since the past couple of days to get my sound back... it all started when I followed the steps from the manual in setting up statically sound drivers for my old Compaq DeskPro EN series...for FreeBSD 5.3. I included the "snd_sbc" driver, since when I kldload snd_driver it comes up as ESS 1869 in my kernel file (MYKERNEL).. I also included the line "device sound" in the MYKERNEL (customized kernel Chp. 7) for some reason it doesn't work when I want to run mpg123... ...Anyways this is the least of my problems. I now comment the lines: device snd_sbc, device sound recomplie the kernel and keep getting cd9660: device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error when I try to mount any of my CDs... (music or data) all of which have been burnt in the ISO 9660 format.. (using Nero) I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other combinations : mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... /etc/fstab shows: /dev/acd0, mountpoint=/cdrom, fstype=cd9660, options=ro, noauto, dump=0, pass#=0 I even tried loading my old kernel (GENERIC) from /boot/kernel.old/kernel (Btw, is this the same as the last recompile of MYKERNE?L... I think I have compiled 3/4 times by now in the hopes that this would work) HELP - I'm a newbie... I've got almost everything working with KDE 3.3...and now back to this. I was so happy when I could run cdcontrol from the command line and now I'm :o( frustrated !! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 11:33:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A5816A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:33:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A130D43D2F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:33:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from canth ([10.0.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j42BWWcO003878; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:32:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-Id: <200505021132.j42BWWcO003878@unsane.co.uk> From: "Vince" To: "'Robert Slade'" , Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:33:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <1115024279.29920.24.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcVO9HRLnsqwozCyTC6DE4pcaaS+4wADZYlQ Subject: RE: FreeBSD + Heartbeat+ Samba+Rsync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:33:38 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robert Slade > Sent: 02 May 2005 09:58 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: FreeBSD + Heartbeat+ Samba+Rsync > > Hi, > > Futher to my previous mail, I have got HB & Samba running ok > now on FreeBSD 5.3. > > I am still trying to sort out the Perl Scripts for running rsync. > > The bit I am having trouble with is: > > # /etc/password - System Password File > # /etc/shadow - Actual Encrypted passwords. > # /etc/group - System Group File > # /etc/ld.so.conf - System Linked Libraries. > # /etc/shells - Valid Login Shells > my @filelist = ( "/etc/passwd", "/etc/shadow", > "/etc/group", "/etc/ld.so.conf", "/etc/shells" ); > foreach $filename (@filelist) { > system "/usr/bin/rsync > --rsh=$EnvConfig::sshpath > $EnvConfig::rsyncoptions $filename local$other:$filename"; > > Sorry about the wrapping. > > As far as I tell, FreeBSD has no System linked Libraries > hence no ld.so.conf. I am not sure what this bit of code is > trying to do and what to replace it with. I don't want to > install the Linux Compatibility libs just to run a Perl script. Looks like it is trying to synchronize essential files in /etc. What do you need to be synchronized between the two boxes? The equivalent files to the example on FreeBSD are: # /etc/password - System Password File -- The Same # /etc/shadow - Actual Encrypted passwords. -- /etc/master.passwd # /etc/group - System Group File -- The Same # /etc/ld.so.conf - System Linked Libraries. --- handled through rcNG in FreeBSD and rc.conf so best use /etc/rc.conf Also its trying to use /usr/bin/rsync while the ports system installs it in /usr/local/bin I'd check what other system files you need synced though, (make.conf, pretty much anything you have edited in /etc I guess and possibly stuff in /usr/local/etc) Vince > > Any ideas? > > Rob > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 12:23:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C44E16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:23:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7664B43D39 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:23:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from clem.twain@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1441551wri for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:23:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HYaNuG50olhyQCcowa0zGzZ8bNdxGvr5h786v2jg9Syt0HbyCF1TEAxA7OyqFPpVQHIRAIKfsgsV/JKgIdfNZaI+EML3XhqPsi5msniWL5V0354uf3CO22js4YNR+j22pzolxP3pH8YVTvn5QlEEHhd39aQ1xX+XujZP5gM9V1M= Received: by 10.54.39.52 with SMTP id m52mr517151wrm; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.10.100? ([165.165.215.90]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 13sm85339wrl.2005.05.02.05.23.40; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42761B9D.6070500@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:22:53 +0200 From: Clement Twine Organization: The Net Freax BV User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stijn Hoop References: <4273675C.1090400@gmail.com> <20050430122748.GC16298@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <42737CEF.8060304@gmail.com> <20050502082417.GA42487@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050502082417.GA42487@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 5.3 on latitude d600? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: clem.twain@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:23:45 -0000 Stijn Hoop wrote the following on 05/02/2005 10:24 AM: >>>> has anyone installed freebsd 5.3 on a dell latitude d600? >>>> have the following worked "out-of-the-box"? >>>> >>>> WiFi: Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter >>> >>> Not out of the box but there's a driver in -CURRENT for it: >>> iwi(4). There is a version for 5.3 on Damien Bergamini's >>> website afaik (google for it). >> >> ok, but this laptop is like - 3 years old? anyway, i'll look >> there. > > This is due to a lot of circumstance, most of it political: > > - at first every wireless vendor refused to release programming > information, except for a select few. - now, although the > programming information is out in the open, Intel refuses to > release the needed firmware for the chipset under a license that > is compatible for open source projects to include it > > these two facts do not help regular driver development. In fact, > the original author of the BSD drivers for Intel wireless chips > is also the primary author of the cooperative Ralink Technology > chipset driver; given a choice it would be wise to choose a > wireless adapter with that chipset over the Intel ones. > > Anyway you don't really have a choice, just explaining why things > are as they are. you are right here actually. But thanks for the info. Question is - these drivers exist for Linux, is it not the same programming information from Intel that was used to develop the Linux drivers? >> My major concern is suspend to RAM. I use FreeBSD, but not on >> my laptop so far. Looks like i have to wait a while for the >> ACPI to fully 'mature' on freeBSD ;) I *hate* having to >> shutdown my laptoy :) > > Just try it out. 5.4 has a lot of improvements and I haven't > tried suspend in a few releases so maybe you're in for a nice > surprise. This could be something to try anyway. Problem is that my laptop's BIOS does not support APM - which am sure could have worked well. Clem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 12:25:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE0616A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:25:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A0643D45 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from clem.twain@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1441801wri for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:25:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XBMn7ofj0oCTgE9+qapz3tLJBqNJ3tOqxBtYiBtPImLC9pBrvfGvWmGaDGxPITkluAOBsRBxs310kiXNigs+KnByahmp5BS+MXLaLDrbHqbhp/5WWo6ESBrWanBQfGHfpe0/gArDdE4dBOz+Z+aI7y4Qq36CwOD4daguic2h1Ok= Received: by 10.54.3.18 with SMTP id 18mr184132wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.10.100? ([165.165.215.90]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 13sm86069wrl.2005.05.02.05.24.56; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42761C0F.8070303@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:24:47 +0200 From: Clement Twine Organization: The Net Freax BV User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shantanoo Mahajan References: <42734355.8030700@zonnet.nl> <20050501025803.GA6705@dhumketu.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <20050501025803.GA6705@dhumketu.homeunix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Frank Staals cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a KATE replacement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: clem.twain@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:25:01 -0000 Shantanoo Mahajan wrote the following on 05/01/2005 04:58 AM: > +++ Frank Staals [freebsd] [30-04-05 10:35 +0200]: > | Hey everyone, > | > | When I started using FreeBSD for desktop usage ( about a year ago ) I > | used KDE as desktop manager, but now I am using XFCE4.2.1 for that > | purpose. But when writing html pages, scripts, programs etc I still use > | KATE ( KDE Advanced Text Editor ), the thing is that it starts up realy > | slow ( probably because it has to load a lot of basic kde stuff ). > | > | So the question was does anyone know a good graphical replacement for > | Kate, I esspecially like the bar on the left which lets you easily > | switch between multiple files, and the build in terminalclient on the > | bottom. I tried looking in the ports/editors section but there are that > | many editors I realy don't know what to use. I am looking for a > | graphical editor, not commandline ( therefor I allready use joe ). > > gvim, (x)emacs, bluefish, ... is gvim the same as kvim (apart from one being for KDE ane the other for GNOME?) Do they offer same functionality? It seems (not sure though) that KDE apps are more refined than GNOME apps. Clem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 12:27:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3443316A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:27:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xenial.mcc.ac.uk (xenial.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.203.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB2343D2F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:27:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by xenial.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DSa1I-000DCG-3b; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:27:28 +0100 Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j42CRNv8082470; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:27:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.13.1/8.12.6/Submit) id j42CRNNZ082469; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:27:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:27:22 +0100 From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20050502122722.GA82211@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20050430173513.GA39341@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <44br7wulfe.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44br7wulfe.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Understanding port version numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:27:32 -0000 On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 03:14:13PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: : Jonathon McKitrick writes: : : > Is there any particular scheme for ports using decimals, commas, and/or : > underscores in the version numbers? Is there any way to tell if it means a : > patch level, a FreeBSD-port only update, and so on? : : Sure. See the Porters' Handbook. Ah, portepoch is the explanation I was looking for. Thanks! jm -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 12:34:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C0216A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:34:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E923243D48 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:34:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 32726 invoked by uid 510); 2 May 2005 13:37:51 +0100 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/710. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.7/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 2 May 2005 13:37:49 +0100 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <200505021132.j42BWWcO003878@unsane.co.uk> References: <200505021132.j42BWWcO003878@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1115037469.29920.44.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:37:49 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: FreeBSD + Heartbeat+ Samba+Rsync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:34:07 -0000 On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 12:33, Vince wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robert Slade > > Sent: 02 May 2005 09:58 > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: FreeBSD + Heartbeat+ Samba+Rsync > > > > Hi, > > > > Futher to my previous mail, I have got HB & Samba running ok > > now on FreeBSD 5.3. > > > > I am still trying to sort out the Perl Scripts for running rsync. > > > > The bit I am having trouble with is: > > > > # /etc/password - System Password File > > # /etc/shadow - Actual Encrypted passwords. > > # /etc/group - System Group File > > # /etc/ld.so.conf - System Linked Libraries. > > # /etc/shells - Valid Login Shells > > my @filelist = ( "/etc/passwd", "/etc/shadow", > > "/etc/group", "/etc/ld.so.conf", "/etc/shells" ); > > foreach $filename (@filelist) { > > system "/usr/bin/rsync > > --rsh=$EnvConfig::sshpath > > $EnvConfig::rsyncoptions $filename local$other:$filename"; > > > > Sorry about the wrapping. > > > > As far as I tell, FreeBSD has no System linked Libraries > > hence no ld.so.conf. I am not sure what this bit of code is > > trying to do and what to replace it with. I don't want to > > install the Linux Compatibility libs just to run a Perl script. > > Looks like it is trying to synchronize essential files in /etc. > What do you need to be synchronized between the two boxes? The equivalent > files to the example on FreeBSD are: > # /etc/password - System Password File -- The Same > # /etc/shadow - Actual Encrypted passwords. -- /etc/master.passwd > # /etc/group - System Group File -- The Same > # /etc/ld.so.conf - System Linked Libraries. --- handled through rcNG in > FreeBSD and rc.conf so best use /etc/rc.conf > Also its trying to use /usr/bin/rsync while the ports system installs it in > /usr/local/bin > > I'd check what other system files you need synced though, (make.conf, pretty > > much anything you have edited in /etc I guess and possibly stuff in > /usr/local/etc) > > Vince > Thanks Vince, Your mail gave me the clue I was looking for. The Perl scripts are provided as an example. The example given was to keep several web servers in sync. My application is a lot simpler. I do not need to keep the configuration files synced. Essentially, all I am looking to do is sync say /home/share on NodeA with NodeB when NodeA is serving the cluster IP and reverse the sync when NodeB is serving the IP. It looks like all! I need to do is check which Node is serving the IP and stop or run rsync based on this. Thinking about it all I really need to do is start rsyncd running on the node serving the IP. The non serving Node can then run rsync as a cron job and vice versa. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 12:47:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3427B16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:47:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clarus.schtriker.net (clarus.schtriker.net [193.77.83.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB59743D2F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:47:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@schtriker.net) Received: from [192.168.3.3] (Simkobook.schtriker.net [192.168.3.3]) by clarus.schtriker.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E54A7E80C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:47:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4276214B.1030307@schtriker.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:47:07 +0200 From: Simon Striker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /etc/issue "problem" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: simon@schtriker.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:47:12 -0000 Hi! I have a FreeBSD 5.3 installed and I want to show a pre-login text when user wants to login to the server through a console or telnet. I made an /etc/issue file and copied some text inside, but when I telnet to the server, the text does not appear! (/etc/issue has 644 rights). My /etc/gettytab includes: default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n\Welcome!\r\n\r\n:sp#1200: :if=/etc/issue: Does enybody know where is the problem and how can I fix it? I will be very grateful if someone will help me or give me a piece of advice! Best regards, Simon -- Simon Striker Rusjanov trg 2 1000 Ljubljana +38641473856 Europe (Slovenia) E-mail: simon@schtriker.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 22:54:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F50516A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:54:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120E143D39 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:54:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07176554B2 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:54:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C9716A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:54:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C23B43D3F for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:54:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from localhost.cenergynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DSNK5-0001jB-rX for questions@lists.freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:54:01 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-195-133.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.195.133] helo=netphobia) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DSNK4-0001j4-sT for questions@lists.freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:54:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c54ea0$ad1dea80$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:54:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:48:29 +0000 Subject: ipf out rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:54:04 -0000 Hi, Can anyone take a minute to just explain to me why ipf is blocking this... ipf.rules: # rl0 - Outgoing pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags block out log quick on rl0 all ipftest: opening rule file "ipf.new" in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 input: in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 pass ip 40(20) 6 196.25.1.1,2210 > x.x.x.122,22 -------------- out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 input: out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 block ip 40(20) 6 x.x.x.122,22 > 196.25.1.1,2210 Thanks. -- Chris. I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 13:13:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352A516A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:13:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6362A43D46 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:13:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A2F5563A for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:13:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C25A16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:13:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FCD43D54 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:13:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050502131328.QBFV13270.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:13:28 -0400 From: To: "Chris Knipe" , Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:13:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <000701c54f00$6a9c9c50$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: ipf out rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:13:31 -0000 First of all what I see in your log is just normal hacker traffic probing for access to your box. Your firewall is doing it's job denying this bogus traffic. I get over 1500 of these daily. I run the "abuse reporting system" to report this junk to the owners of the ip address range. You can download copy of the "abuse reporting system" scripts from http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php now about your rule set. 1. the Lo0 rules is just to allow your PC to talk to itself, so 'keep state' option is wasted over head. Remove "keep state" from those 2 rules. 2. this rule "block in log quick all with frag" is dropping all frags so the "keep frag" option on all the rules is useless so remove it from all rules. 3. Your problem about ftp is not described enough in detail to debug. Not working how? Can you access public ftp sites from the firewall box and or from LAN pc's? Are you running a FTP server and remote users can not access your ftp server? If so is FTP server on firewall box or on LAN pc? Add log option to your ftp rules and read log to view ftp packet traffic to debug Are you running NAT for LAN users, if so post NAT rules 4. You are allowing out all services originating from behind your firewall. This is a very unsecure practice. Your LAN PC's or the firewall box it self could have a Trojan or spyware and you will never know it. Change the rules to only allow out the services you expect to be using like shown in the official handbook firewall section. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Knipe Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:19 AM To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf out rule Ok, that is fair enough. I did manage to get it up and running without locking myself out though *yay* I am having 2 issues mainly. FTP doesn't work at all (PASV or not), and I am getting allot of false drops on packets which *should* be allowed... Quick dump from the log file: May 2 12:11:03 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:02.335403 rl0 @0:62 b y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN May 2 12:11:05 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:04.760397 rl0 @0:62 b y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN May 2 12:11:10 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:09.787481 rl0 @0:62 b y.y195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN May 2 12:11:20 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:19.744860 rl0 @0:62 b y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN May 2 12:11:40 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:39.760718 rl0 @0:62 b y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN /etc/ipf.rules: # lo0 - Loopback pass in quick on lo0 all keep state pass out quick on lo0 all keep state # Bad Packet Murder block in log quick all with ipopts block in log quick all with short block in log quick all with frag block return-rst in log quick proto tcp all flags FUP block return-rst in log quick proto tcp all flags FSRPAU ################################################################# # Outside Interfaces ################################################################# # rl0 - Outgoing pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state keep frags block out log quick on rl0 all ################################################################# # Block and log all remaining traffic coming into the firewall # - Block TCP with a RST (to make it appear as if the service # isn't listening) # - Block UDP with an ICMP Port Unreachable (to make it appear # as if the service isn't listening) # - Block all remaining traffic the good 'ol fashioned way ################################################################# # rl0 - Global Incoming block in quick on rl0 from 0.0.0.0/7 to any block in quick on rl0 from 2.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 5.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 23.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 27.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 31.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 69.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 70.0.0.0/7 to any block in quick on rl0 from 72.0.0.0/5 to any block in quick on rl0 from 82.0.0.0/7 to any block in quick on rl0 from 84.0.0.0/6 to any block in quick on rl0 from 88.0.0.0/5 to any block in quick on rl0 from 96.0.0.0/3 to any block in quick on rl0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 128.0.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 128.66.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any block in quick on rl0 from 191.255.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.0.0/19 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.48.0/20 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.64.0/18 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.128.0/17 to any block in quick on rl0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any block in quick on rl0 from 197.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 201.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 204.152.64.0/23 to any block in quick on rl0 from 219.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on rl0 from 220.0.0.0/6 to any block in quick on rl0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any # rl0 - ICMP, 0 = Echo Reply, 3 = Arb Unreachable, 11 = TTL pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 0 pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 3 pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 11 # rl0 - x.x.x.122 FTP, FTP-DATA pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 21 flags S keep state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port > 49151 flags S keep state pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.122 port = 20 to any flags S keep state # rl0 - x.x.x.122 SSH pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 22 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 SMTP pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 25 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 DNS pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 53 keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 53 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 HTTP, HTTPS pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 80 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 443 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 POP3 pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 110 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 NTP pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from a.a.a.a to x.x.x.122 port = 123 keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from b.b.b.b to x.x.x.122 port = 123 keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from c.c.c.c to x.x.x.122 port = 123 keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.122 MySQL pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.122 port = 3306 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.123 DNS pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = 53 keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.123 Squid pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = 3128 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from y.y.0.0/16 to x.x.x.123 port = 3128 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from z.z.0.0/16 to x.x.x.123 port = 3128 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = 3130 flags S keep state keep frags # rl0 - x.x.x.123 PMX pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.122 to x.x.x.123 port = 10024 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.123 port = 18080 flags S keep state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.123 port = 28080 flags S keep state keep frags # Le Grande Finale block in log quick on rl0 all As always, looking forward to some help :) -- Chris. I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Chris Knipe" ; Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:56 AM Subject: RE: ipf out rule > When asking for help with firewall rules you have to post complete > content of firewall rule set file because some previous rule may be > dropping all packets. If this is your complete rule set them you are > missing the mandatory L0 interface rule to pass quick all. rl0 must > be Nic connected to public internet. x.x.x.120/29 is ip address > range of pc's on private LAN behind firewall. This is not much of > firewall with everything being allowed out. You could replace all > of these meaning less statements with pass quick all from any to > any > > You really need to read firewall section of the official handbook. > It has working examples of ipf.rules rule set along with detailed > explanation of how to build firewall rules. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Knipe > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 6:56 PM > To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org > Subject: ipf out rule > > > Hi, > > Can anyone take a minute to just explain to me why ipf is blocking > this... > > ipf.rules: > # rl0 - Outgoing > pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S > keep state > keep frags > pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state > keep > frags > pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state > keep > frags > block out log quick on rl0 all > > ipftest: > opening rule file "ipf.new" > in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 > input: in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 > pass ip 40(20) 6 196.25.1.1,2210 > x.x.x.122,22 > -------------- > out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 > input: out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 > block ip 40(20) 6 x.x.x.122,22 > 196.25.1.1,2210 > > Thanks. > > > -- > Chris. > > I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as > they > fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 13:24:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E23E16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB6A43D54 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2615766F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201F916A4D0 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B4F43D3F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DSauf-00066B-rh; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:24:41 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-195-133.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.195.133] helo=netphobia) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DSaue-000667-qZ; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:24:40 +0200 Message-ID: <004701c54f1a$4f9de8e0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: , References: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 15:24:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Subject: Re: ipf out rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:24:45 -0000 > First of all what I see in your log is just normal hacker traffic > probing for access to your box. Your firewall is doing it's job > denying this bogus traffic. I get over 1500 of these daily. I run > the "abuse reporting system" to report this junk to the owners of > the ip address range. You can download copy of the "abuse reporting > system" scripts from > http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php Hmm ok, Thanks. I'll have a look at that. What I am picking up however, is that they only come after I browsed to a site for example. It may just be fragments or something. If it's not serious, it's not serious. I don't see any "affect" as such from using the server, so it must not be serious. > now about your rule set. > > 1. the Lo0 rules is just to allow your PC to talk to itself, so > 'keep state' option is wasted over head. Remove "keep state" from > those 2 rules. Thanks. > 2. this rule "block in log quick all with frag" is dropping all > frags so the "keep frag" option on all the rules is useless so > remove it from all rules. Allrighty. > 3. Your problem about ftp is not described enough in detail to > debug. Not working how? > Can you access public ftp sites from the firewall box and or from > LAN pc's? > Are you running a FTP server and remote users can not access your > ftp server? > If so is FTP server on firewall box or on LAN pc? > Add log option to your ftp rules and read log to view ftp packet > traffic to debug > Are you running NAT for LAN users, if so post NAT rules There are no "Internal" network, or LAN. This is a co-located server in a data center (thus firewall and all services are on the same machine). PASV FTP coming in to the server is not working logs: May 2 15:20:45 pyro pure-ftpd[23394]: (?@x.x.x.x) [INFO] New connection from x.x.x.x May 2 15:20:46 pyro pure-ftpd[23395]: (?@x.x.x.x) [INFO] cknipe is now logged in May 2 15:20:46 pyro ipmon[8689]: 15:20:46.628707 rl0 @0:62 b x.x.x.x,4049 -> a.a.a.122,33273 PR tcp len 20 48 -S IN May 2 15:20:49 pyro ipmon[8689]: 15:20:49.556181 rl0 @0:62 b x.x.x.x,4049 -> a.a.a.122,33273 PR tcp len 20 48 -S IN May 2 15:21:53 pyro pure-ftpd[23395]: (cknipe@x.x.x.x) [INFO] Logout. > 4. You are allowing out all services originating from behind your > firewall. This is a very unsecure practice. Your LAN PC's or the > firewall box it self could have a Trojan or spyware and you will > never know it. Change the rules to only allow out the services you > expect to be using like shown in the official handbook firewall > section. See above :) -- Chris. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Knipe > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:19 AM > To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ipf out rule > > > Ok, that is fair enough. > > I did manage to get it up and running without locking myself out > though > *yay* > > I am having 2 issues mainly. > > FTP doesn't work at all (PASV or not), and I am getting allot of > false drops > on packets which *should* be allowed... > > Quick dump from the log file: > May 2 12:11:03 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:02.335403 rl0 @0:62 b > y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN > May 2 12:11:05 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:04.760397 rl0 @0:62 b > y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN > May 2 12:11:10 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:09.787481 rl0 @0:62 b > y.y195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN > May 2 12:11:20 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:19.744860 rl0 @0:62 b > y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN > May 2 12:11:40 pyro ipmon[8689]: 12:11:39.760718 rl0 @0:62 b > y.y.195.133,1201 -> x.x.x.123,3128 PR tcp len 20 40 -AF IN > > /etc/ipf.rules: > # lo0 - Loopback > pass in quick on lo0 all keep state > pass out quick on lo0 all keep state > > # Bad Packet Murder > block in log quick all with ipopts > block in log quick all with short > block in log quick all with frag > block return-rst in log quick proto tcp all flags FUP > block return-rst in log quick proto tcp all flags FSRPAU > > ################################################################# > # Outside Interfaces > ################################################################# > # rl0 - Outgoing > pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S > keep state > keep frags > pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state > keep > frags > pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep state > keep > frags > block out log quick on rl0 all > > ################################################################# > # Block and log all remaining traffic coming into the firewall > # - Block TCP with a RST (to make it appear as if the service > # isn't listening) > # - Block UDP with an ICMP Port Unreachable (to make it appear > # as if the service isn't listening) > # - Block all remaining traffic the good 'ol fashioned way > ################################################################# > # rl0 - Global Incoming > block in quick on rl0 from 0.0.0.0/7 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 2.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 5.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 23.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 27.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 31.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 69.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 70.0.0.0/7 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 72.0.0.0/5 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 82.0.0.0/7 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 84.0.0.0/6 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 88.0.0.0/5 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 96.0.0.0/3 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 128.0.0.0/16 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 128.66.0.0/16 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 191.255.0.0/16 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.0.0/19 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.48.0/20 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.64.0/18 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 192.0.128.0/17 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 197.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 201.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 204.152.64.0/23 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 219.0.0.0/8 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 220.0.0.0/6 to any > block in quick on rl0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any > > # rl0 - ICMP, 0 = Echo Reply, 3 = Arb Unreachable, 11 = TTL > pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 0 > pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 3 > pass in quick on rl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 11 > > # rl0 - x.x.x.122 FTP, FTP-DATA > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 21 flags > S keep > state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port > 49151 > flags S > keep state > pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.122 port = 20 to any > flags S keep > state > > # rl0 - x.x.x.122 SSH > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 22 flags > S keep > state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.122 SMTP > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 25 flags > S keep > state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.122 DNS > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 53 keep > state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 53 flags > S keep > state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.122 HTTP, HTTPS > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 80 flags > S keep > state keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 443 > flags S keep > state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.122 POP3 > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.122 port = 110 > flags S keep > state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.122 NTP > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from a.a.a.a to x.x.x.122 port = 123 > keep > state keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from b.b.b.b to x.x.x.122 port = 123 > keep > state keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from c.c.c.c to x.x.x.122 port = 123 > keep > state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.122 MySQL > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.122 port = > 3306 > flags S keep state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.123 DNS > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = > 53 keep > state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.123 Squid > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = > 3128 > flags S keep state keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from y.y.0.0/16 to x.x.x.123 port = > 3128 > flags S keep state keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from z.z.0.0/16 to x.x.x.123 port = > 3128 > flags S keep state keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to x.x.x.123 port = > 3130 > flags S keep state keep frags > > # rl0 - x.x.x.123 PMX > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.122 to x.x.x.123 port = > 10024 > flags S keep state keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.123 port = 18080 > flags S > keep state keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to x.x.x.123 port = 28080 > flags S > keep state keep frags > > # Le Grande Finale > block in log quick on rl0 all > > As always, looking forward to some help :) > > -- > Chris. > > I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as > they > fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Chris Knipe" ; > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:56 AM > Subject: RE: ipf out rule > > >> When asking for help with firewall rules you have to post complete >> content of firewall rule set file because some previous rule may > be >> dropping all packets. If this is your complete rule set them you > are >> missing the mandatory L0 interface rule to pass quick all. rl0 > must >> be Nic connected to public internet. x.x.x.120/29 is ip address >> range of pc's on private LAN behind firewall. This is not much of >> firewall with everything being allowed out. You could replace all >> of these meaning less statements with pass quick all from any to >> any >> >> You really need to read firewall section of the official handbook. >> It has working examples of ipf.rules rule set along with detailed >> explanation of how to build firewall rules. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris > Knipe >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 6:56 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org >> Subject: ipf out rule >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Can anyone take a minute to just explain to me why ipf is blocking >> this... >> >> ipf.rules: >> # rl0 - Outgoing >> pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from x.x.x.120/29 to any flags S >> keep state >> keep frags >> pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep > state >> keep >> frags >> pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from x.x.x.120/29 to any keep > state >> keep >> frags >> block out log quick on rl0 all >> >> ipftest: >> opening rule file "ipf.new" >> in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 >> input: in on rl0 tcp 196.25.1.1,2210 x.x.x.122,22 >> pass ip 40(20) 6 196.25.1.1,2210 > x.x.x.122,22 >> -------------- >> out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 >> input: out on rl0 tcp x.x.x.122,22 196.25.1.1,2210 >> block ip 40(20) 6 x.x.x.122,22 > 196.25.1.1,2210 >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> -- >> Chris. >> >> I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make > as >> they >> fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 14:18:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CE816A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:18:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.server.rpi.edu (smtp4.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6006A43D31 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:18:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp4.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j42EIa14020227; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:18:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4273F7D1.4030702@computer.org> References: <4273EFF5.8090504@computer.org> <20050430140440.I47465@wolf.pjkh.com> <4273F7D1.4030702@computer.org> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:18:35 -0400 To: Eric Schuele , Philip Hallstrom From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.4 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Determining what a port will install... (more than pretty-print-*) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:18:40 -0000 At 4:25 PM -0500 4/30/05, Eric Schuele wrote: >Philip Hallstrom wrote: >> >>The "portupgrade" port can do this. Something like... >> >>portupgrade -n -Rr someport >> >>The -n tells it not to do anything, just show you what it would do. > >This sounds like what I'm looking for... so I tried it. But its giving >me difficulties. > >I am using `portupgrade -nN -rR "x11-fm/rox-filer"` for example. I believe that 'portupgrade -n' only works right for ports which you have already installed. It keeps a database of already-installed ports, and that's what it is using to track '-Rr'. Or at least, 'portupgrade -nN' never does anything useful for me, even though it is very useful to do 'portupgrade -n -Rr' when upgrading ports you have already installed. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 14:30:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5765F16A4D2 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:30:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067C343D58 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:30:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 8646 invoked from network); 2 May 2005 14:30:35 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 May 2005 14:30:35 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9382555; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: simon@schtriker.net References: <4276214B.1030307@schtriker.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 02 May 2005 10:30:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4276214B.1030307@schtriker.net> Message-ID: <44k6mhd7jp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/issue "problem" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:30:36 -0000 Simon Striker writes: > I have a FreeBSD 5.3 installed and I want to show a pre-login text > when user wants to login to the server through a console or telnet. > > I made an /etc/issue file and copied some text inside, but when I > telnet to the server, the text does not appear! (/etc/issue has 644 > rights). > > My /etc/gettytab includes: > > default:\ > :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n\Welcome!\r\n\r\n:sp#1200: > :if=/etc/issue: > > Does enybody know where is the problem and how can I fix it? > > I will be very grateful if someone will help me or give me a piece of > advice! Did you tell init(8) that you made the change? You need to send it a SIGHUP... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 14:39:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BAB16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:39:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clarus.schtriker.net (clarus.schtriker.net [193.77.83.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135143D53 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:39:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@schtriker.net) Received: from [192.168.3.3] (Simkobook.schtriker.net [192.168.3.3]) by clarus.schtriker.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7927E80C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:39:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42763B7E.405@schtriker.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:38:54 +0200 From: Simon Striker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4276214B.1030307@schtriker.net> <44k6mhd7jp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44k6mhd7jp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: /etc/issue "problem" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: simon@schtriker.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:39:01 -0000 Hi! Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Did you tell init(8) that you made the change? > You need to send it a SIGHUP... Yes I did. I typed: "init q" command and the "problem" remains. I have also rebooted the server and nothing changed. Do I have to do anything else? I have also searched with Google, but have not find anything ... -- Simon Striker Rusjanov trg 2 1000 Ljubljana +38641473856 Europe (Slovenia) E-mail: simon@schtriker.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 14:42:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6304116A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:42:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D815B43D31 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:42:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <200505021442260140091cbie>; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:42:26 +0000 Message-ID: <42763C51.1080109@computer.org> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:42:25 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050325) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn References: <4273EFF5.8090504@computer.org> <20050430140440.I47465@wolf.pjkh.com> <4273F7D1.4030702@computer.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Determining what a port will install... (more than pretty-print-*) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:42:27 -0000 Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 4:25 PM -0500 4/30/05, Eric Schuele wrote: > >> Philip Hallstrom wrote: >> >>> >>> The "portupgrade" port can do this. Something like... >>> >>> portupgrade -n -Rr someport >>> >>> The -n tells it not to do anything, just show you what it would do. >> >> >> This sounds like what I'm looking for... so I tried it. But its giving >> me difficulties. >> >> I am using `portupgrade -nN -rR "x11-fm/rox-filer"` for example. > > > I believe that 'portupgrade -n' only works right for ports which you > have already installed. It keeps a database of already-installed > ports, and that's what it is using to track '-Rr'. Or at least, > 'portupgrade -nN' never does anything useful for me, even though it > is very useful to do 'portupgrade -n -Rr' when upgrading ports you > have already installed. > Yes... That is the conclusion I have come to. I'm sure what I am trying to accomplish is just one savvy shell script away.... I'm just not that savvy though. If I can't find something which already does what I'm looking for.... I'll muddle through writing a script to do it. -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 14:46:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71EA16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:46:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-dav14.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7020943D45 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett-brown@msn.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 May 2005 07:46:25 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.205 by BAY103-DAV14.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:46:24 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.205] X-Originating-Email: [brett-brown@msn.com] X-Sender: brett-brown@msn.com From: "Brett Brown" To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:46:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:46:21 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 14:46:25.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6EF7DA0:01C54F25] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Matlab on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:46:24 -0000 Cali, What version of MatLab did you have success with? I'm trying to install = MatLab Student Version 7.0.1 (R14) service pack1 and could really use = some help. brett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 14:53:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265EA16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:53:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4488943D41 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:53:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3])j42EqwrN060446 ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:52:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from galois1.math.jussieu.fr (galois1.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.116])j42Er4Mf039985 ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:53:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from galois1.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) j42Er4W8017697 ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:53:04 +0200 Received: (from jas@localhost) by galois1.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j42Er4u1017696; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:53:04 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:53:04 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Brett Brown Message-ID: <20050502145304.GE11251@math.jussieu.fr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Mon, 02 May 2005 16:52:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 42763ECA.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Matlab on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:53:11 -0000 Le 02/05/2005 à 09:46:21-0500, Brett Brown a écrit > Cali, > > What version of MatLab did you have success with? I'm trying to install MatLab Student Version 7.0.1 (R14) service pack1 and could really use some help. > I've use (well not me, but my users) matlab-7.0.0 on FreeBSD 5.2.1 without any problem. But....you must (well I do) perform the installation of Matlab on a Linux box, then you make a copy of the directory from linux-box to freebsd-box. And you can create a file (like matlab ;-) ) in /usr/local/bin with #!/bin/sh /compat/linux/bin/sh /usr/local/matlab/bin/matlab > /dev/null 2>&1 HTH. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 ième étage, plateau D, bureau 10 Heure local/Local time: Mon May 2 16:49:34 CEST 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 14:56:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5EE16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:56:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4949A43D2D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:56:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so2358685nzf for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:56:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ucqw3h8hSdSk0HDPa8R1+X9cx/afL1lFC6m4pbbyAiFoL8I4F4e/dfEmq/PEQx+pHRfscVtgrkUBrSn8XaO7GGex8/wOd8Ch+XHz2l0WET8Q7okkT2piZHq19ywoKvlh7YnlOhGDohj0ixDYOqiCRaFd5oEUUKlkkY0gto8glyI= Received: by 10.36.56.8 with SMTP id e8mr536721nza; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.59.20 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 07:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf050502075671aa177b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:56:36 -0600 From: Jon Drews To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Suffix rules in Makefile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:56:37 -0000 5.4-STABLE #0: Sun Apr 24 08:30:32 MDT 2005 Hi: I am having trouble with a .SUFFIXES based Makefile. If I use this Makefile containing .out: INCLUDES=3D -Wall -I/usr/local/include LINK=3D -L/usr/local/lib LIBS=3D -lgsl -lgslcblas -lm .SUFFIXES : .c .o .out .o.out: ${CC} ${LINK} -o $@ $< ${LIBS} .c.o: ${CC} ${INCLUDES} -c $< $ make complexPow.out cc -O2 -pipe -march=3Dpentiumpro complexPow.c -o complexPow.out complexPow.c:4:29: gsl/gsl_complex.h: No such file or directory it's not finding it's includes. However if I change the .out extension to .OUT it works: INCLUDES=3D -Wall -I/usr/local/include LINK=3D -L/usr/local/lib LIBS=3D -lgsl -lgslcblas -lm .SUFFIXES : .c .o .OUT .o.OUT: ${CC} ${LINK} -o $@ $< ${LIBS} .c.o: ${CC} ${INCLUDES} -c $< $ make complexPow.OUT cc -Wall -I/usr/local/include -c complexPow.c cc -L/usr/local/lib -o complexPow.OUT complexPow.o -lgsl -lgslcblas -lm Why does the .SUFFIXES definition for .out, in the first Makefile not work? I looked in /usr/share/mk/sys.mk and did not see a definition for .o.out either. --=20 Kind regards, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 15:01:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D1016A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:01:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6821F43D4C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:01:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so891879rnf for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:01:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jeJujsWq4MGA5BAUYboZjVjta4OtRMAAyiEzQ7aufmjJ8+Fcf5z1JwOJ4VpqZbdYK1O/+6J2w7D5UbjafaB0muuE1vCEq4/TJgwxDOWAhQ9jFaRbtVDcopwbwttKq7wNqSQhZILFhwACIZ1FGNjPVUOtYitBKkQC1E2k60oDRKI= Received: by 10.38.104.52 with SMTP id b52mr6287865rnc; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.101.19 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:01:07 +0900 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Warren In-Reply-To: <200504282037.55234.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200504282037.55234.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where can i d/l VMware-workstation-3.2.1-2242.tar.gz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:01:07 -0000 2005/4/28, Warren : > im trying to install the vmware pkg via the port but all URL's listed fai= l to > have the pkg: >=20 > Where can i grab a copy of this pkg ? >=20 > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/VMware-workstation-3.2.= 1-2242.tar.gz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > =3D> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > =3D> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. > *** Error code 1 >=20 Have you tried googling? I was quite successful in finding the file, for instance here: http://mirrors.zyrianes.net/gentoo/distfiles/ .=20 Generally, I find that a quick google with the file just as it appears there in the distinfo is a quick and easy way to get the file you need. Plus, since the files are MD5'd, you won't have to worry about accidentally getting the wrong one. Isn't FreeBSD great? --=20 If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 15:01:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EA116A50A for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:01:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B350143D4C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:01:14 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=NXR3jn8A=TJ=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j42F1Duw054670 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:01:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: sender IP is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=asarian-host.net; client-ip=sender IP; envelope-from=; helo=asarian-host; Message-Id: <200505021501.j42F1Crw054660@asarian-host.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:01:13 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: MTDZpTGSVg+luzdE/yIpn/rVecfF7Jvmkuj30gz/b/9RNRUIg9ciVnDdo8ulgYr3toKJh8oM+pxovlusn5/zIg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'FreeBSD-Questions Questions'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQnZAuTFqW1BleBN9AQEozAgAk5jQrP+WruNvplId/XbyYn/eheZ6oOT/ P9RVuxB3TzC3kmAtypmaVTM3nuO89EKuLbexp3pGztagI6fUfsWGxU1USf/zOKL6 FXLsl0NTSNkFt2Moh1RrvttkXIMenxuGIEmLtNz7yEj3ibxB811QK/LVzAcCJfQS GPb8bpX+veMxwPE9kgXs36yx1MYixLjajk88O3jl88iM1A0wtfOWfGKSRfcUphAe oaZhysVq3GP/hsmbLj8LIHZUOEySdzms/l5dzLDQwW868k1qKTSY10oVugrAXQDA vno5BU5q/AKI/03BOhWYkVecjVZyOeibwmojcdeVHBGCOQawTTN4pQ== =DQTm Subject: Clamav 0.84 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:01:15 -0000 Clamav 0.84 is out (for several days). Who do I contact about upgrading the port? Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 15:04:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E5716A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:04:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-04.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41DB543D54 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:04:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 13335 invoked from network); 2 May 2005 15:04:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (203.217.86.5) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 2 May 2005 15:04:37 -0000 From: Warren To: Eric Kjeldergaard Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 01:02:58 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200504282037.55234.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505030102.59196.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where can i d/l VMware-workstation-3.2.1-2242.tar.gz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:04:40 -0000 > Have you tried googling? I was quite successful in finding the file, > for instance here: http://mirrors.zyrianes.net/gentoo/distfiles/ . > Generally, I find that a quick google with the file just as it appears > there in the distinfo is a quick and easy way to get the file you > need. Plus, since the files are MD5'd, you won't have to worry about > accidentally getting the wrong one. Isn't FreeBSD great? I ended up finding it, but where would i find a list of various mirror sites and where would i add them into the list of mirrors to check as i often come across the problem of pkgs not found. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 15:10:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D5E16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:10:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s1.vhost.cz (s1.vhost.cz [82.208.27.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D6E43D1F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:10:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from konfer@mikulas.com) Received: (qmail 47512 invoked by alias); 2 May 2005 17:10:53 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by s1.vhost.cz with SMTP; 2 May 2005 17:10:53 +0200 Received: from unknown ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (s1.vhost.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) id 46930-05; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.19.13.144?) (jiri@mikulas.com@195.122.204.153) by s1.vhost.cz with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 May 2005 17:10:52 +0200 Message-ID: <427642FC.2010409@mikulas.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:10:52 +0200 From: Jiri Mikulas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark References: <200505021501.j42F1Crw054660@asarian-host.net> In-Reply-To: <200505021501.j42F1Crw054660@asarian-host.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vhost.cz cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clamav 0.84 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:10:56 -0000 Hello mik# pwd /usr/ports/security/clamav mik# grep MAINTAINER Makefile MAINTAINER= rob@debank.tv mik# Jiri Mark wrote: >Clamav 0.84 is out (for several days). Who do I contact about upgrading the >port? > >Thanks, > >- Mark > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 15:13:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BCA16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631C543D5D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j42FDWG7022004; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:13:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <42763C51.1080109@computer.org> References: <4273EFF5.8090504@computer.org> <20050430140440.I47465@wolf.pjkh.com> <4273F7D1.4030702@computer.org> <42763C51.1080109@computer.org> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:13:31 -0400 To: Eric Schuele From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.2 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Determining what a port will install... (more than pretty-print-*) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:13:36 -0000 At 9:42 AM -0500 5/2/05, Eric Schuele wrote: >Garance A Drosihn wrote: >> >>I believe that 'portupgrade -n' only works right for ports which >>you have already installed. > >Yes... That is the conclusion I have come to. > >I'm sure what I am trying to accomplish is just one savvy shell >script away.... I'm just not that savvy though. If I can't find >something which already does what I'm looking for.... I'll muddle >through writing a script to do it. If there isn't anything which already exists, then I'd try something along the lines of 'cd'-ing into the directory of the port you want to install, and getting the output of: make -V RUN_DEPENDS -V BUILD_DEPENDS -V LIB_DEPENDS (that should give you three lines, some or all of which might be blank lines). Each non-blank line will be of the form "a1:b1 a2:b2 ...", where each "a" is a pathname, and each "b" is a portname. I'll leave it to you to decide where you go from there... You might want to check through: cd /usr/ports/sysutils/port* and see if any of those already do what you want to see done. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 15:42:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6F716A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:42:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075F643D31 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:42:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from UTDEVS08.campus.ad.utdallas.edu (utdex09.utdallas.edu [129.110.70.104]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75774389143 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:42:21 -0500 (CDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:42:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Determining what a port will install... (more than pretty-print-*) Thread-Index: AcVPKjMjdRZPLVKtTTeDIa1bYE2WugAAy68g From: "Schmehl, Paul L" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: Determining what a port will install... (more than pretty-print-*) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:42:24 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Garance A Drosihn > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:14 AM > To: Eric Schuele > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Determining what a port will install... (more=20 > than pretty-print-*) >=20 > If there isn't anything which already exists, then I'd try=20 > something along the lines of 'cd'-ing into the directory of=20 > the port you want to install, and getting the output of: >=20 > make -V RUN_DEPENDS -V BUILD_DEPENDS -V LIB_DEPENDS > If pkg-plist exists, that could give you a complete list of the files installed and where they are installed. =20 Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 15:48:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBD016A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:48:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from host.idesigns.net (host.idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2174543D46 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:48:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by host.idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j42FmMbh018042 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:48:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42764BCC.2000903@schmittnet.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:48:28 -0400 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: hostname problem on a local network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:48:29 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 4.9 system on a private network, connected to the internet through a Netgear router/firewall which acts as a DHCP server and receives its names through netbios. I'm trying to set it to respond to the fully qualified name "schfrbsd.lan". In my rc.conf, I have the line: hostname="schfrbsd.lan" I've also tried adding a dot to the end of it: hostname="schfrbsd.lan." Whatever I do, I cannot get the machine to register itself on the network (though Samba) as schfrbsd.lan. It always shows up as schfrbsd. "hostname -s" returns the same value. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Bill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 15:59:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E09516A4CE; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:59:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sv02.webonaut.com (kirk.webonaut.com [212.41.243.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9DC43D41; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:59:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from klammer@webonaut.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sv02.webonaut.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0557642E; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:59:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sv02.webonaut.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sv02.webonaut.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18922-01; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:58:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (sisko.webonaut.com [212.41.243.28]) by sv02.webonaut.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5076421; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:58:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42764E49.5080106@webonaut.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:59:05 +0200 From: Franz Klammer User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050323) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy@neu.net References: <20050501120045.ACEFD16A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at webonaut.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keyboard problem X won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:59:12 -0000 andy@neu.net wrote: > I just upgraded from 5.3 to 5.4 RC3 via sysinstall from a cd.The > upgrade was successful however, when I try "startx" I get the > following error: > > (EE) Failed to load module "speedo" (module does not exit,0) > (EE) Failed to load module "Keyboard" (module does not exit,0) > (EE) No input driver matching 'Keyboard' > No core keyboard > xorg 6.8.2? remove »load "speedo"« - it's gone. change »Driver "keyboard"« to: »Driver "kbd"« if i'm not completely wrong you can remove »Load "type1"« too because type1-fonts are also handelt with freetype. franz. > Fatal server error: > failed to inititalize core devices > > It seems the keyboard driver is missing. Any suggestions to get it > working are really appreciated. > > TIA, > > Andy > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 16:26:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB5D16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:26:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A3843D5D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AB81152A; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42765486.40500@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:25:42 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4276214B.1030307@schtriker.net> <44k6mhd7jp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44k6mhd7jp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: simon@schtriker.net Subject: Re: /etc/issue "problem" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:26:26 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Simon Striker writes: > > >>I have a FreeBSD 5.3 installed and I want to show a pre-login text >>when user wants to login to the server through a console or telnet. >> >>I made an /etc/issue file and copied some text inside, but when I >>telnet to the server, the text does not appear! (/etc/issue has 644 >>rights). >> >>My /etc/gettytab includes: >> >>default:\ >> :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n\Welcome!\r\n\r\n:sp#1200: >> :if=/etc/issue: >> >>Does enybody know where is the problem and how can I fix it? >> >>I will be very grateful if someone will help me or give me a piece of >>advice! I'm not certain it'll do what you want, I haven't played with it, but login.conf's man pager describes a field called login.prompt that seems like it would be worth a try, experimenting. > > > > Did you tell init(8) that you made the change? > You need to send it a SIGHUP... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 16:27:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AD416A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:27:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E730743D39 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:27:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DSdlt-000Ibl-3F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:27:49 -0600 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Resent-Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:27:47 -0600 Message-Id: <1F0F8D83-A9B1-465F-874D-85E607164ABE@shire.net> Resent-To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Resent-From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Resent-Message-Id: <6137E173-5AC6-4BF4-A5DC-D0C78B426EC3@shire.net> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 22:17:46 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: Chad Leigh Subject: mail/sendmail submit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:27:50 -0000 Hi I am trying to allow mail submission and sending on a 5.3-RELEASE box from inside a jail, but not a running MTA... I have the following in the rc.conf sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" # Start a localhost-only MTA for mail submission sendmail_outbound_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck mail (YES/NO). sendmail_msp_queue_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck clientmqueue mail (YES/NO). Since you cannot bind to localhost only in a jail I have that set to NO. The /etc/mail/README file says to change the freebsd.submit.mc file and remake things so that it submits to another host. I have done that by doing the "Change the FEATURE(msp) line to FEATURE(msp, hostname) where hostname is the fully qualified hostname of the alternative host." and then "'make install-submit-cf' in /etc/mail/". When I try to do a mail on the command line, I get: root@machine:/home/chad# can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser. Where do I set this TrustedUser and how do I make the mail program work as a TrustedUser? I grepped TrustedUser in /etc/mail/* and got freebsd.cf:#O TrustedUser=root freebsd.submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp machine.com.submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp sendmail.cf:#O TrustedUser=root submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp so it seems to be set to smmsp which is a valid user in the password file. Thanks for any help or pointers on getting this to work. Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 16:50:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD0016A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:50:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clarus.schtriker.net (clarus.schtriker.net [193.77.83.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D5C43D5A for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:50:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@schtriker.net) Received: from [192.168.3.3] (Simkobook.schtriker.net [192.168.3.3]) by clarus.schtriker.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD57E80C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:50:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42765A52.9030507@schtriker.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:50:26 +0200 From: Simon Striker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4276214B.1030307@schtriker.net> <44k6mhd7jp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <42765486.40500@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <42765486.40500@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: /etc/issue "problem" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: simon@schtriker.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:50:33 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > I'm not certain it'll do what you want, I haven't played with it, but > login.conf's man pager describes a field called login_prompt that seems > like it would be worth a try, experimenting. With parameter login_prompt I could only change the: Login: Password: to What ever: Password: But I still can not change the pre-login text with some text written in /etc/issue. -- Simon Striker Rusjanov trg 2 1000 Ljubljana +38641473856 Europe (Slovenia) E-mail: simon@schtriker.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 17:49:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F15316A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:49:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.dslr.net (mail.dslreports.com [209.123.192.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B47443D6B for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:49:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro@dslr.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dslr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227354270E for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.dslr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (coral.dslreports.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24061-10 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.dslr.net (Postfix, from userid 997) id F0DCA42707; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [59.93.160.150] (unknown [59.93.160.150]) by mail.dslr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D4842708 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4276681B.9060305@dslr.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:19:15 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dslr.net Subject: Working X - Anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:49:24 -0000 Hello Folks, I had been trying to get Xorg 6.8.2 working on a 5.4-STABLE installation. I had compiled Xoeg from an updated ports tree. But while running Xorg -configure it complains that the module "pcidata" is missing. I have uninstalled and reinstalled Xorg but without any success. Anyone can guide me where I am going wrong? Has anyone got Xorg 6.8.2 working from ports? I have preciously posted but didnt get any replies :-(. Regards S. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 17:52:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A3016A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:52:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.ixpres.com (smtp3.ixpres.com [216.240.160.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E948D43D69 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:52:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from webmail.ixpres.com (webmail.ixpres.com [216.240.160.200]) by smtp3.ixpres.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j45HFWC16219; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:15:32 -0700 Received: from 64.58.171.86 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vizion@ixpres.com) by webmail.ixpres.com with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1435.64.58.171.86.1115056437.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <20050502082951.GC81673@lucky.net> References: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> <20050502082951.GC81673@lucky.net> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: vizion@ixpres.com To: netch@lucky.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: vizion@ixpres.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ignorance and file suffixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:52:11 -0000 > Sun, May 01, 2005 at 23:07:36, vizion wrote about "Ignorance and file > suffixes": > >> I have tried unsuccessfuly to find out from the manual what the suffixes >> mean on the files collected by cvsup (e.g. "v") is there a reference for >> such info? > ,v is RCS and CVS suffix. You can use CVS (`info cvs') for dealing with > them. > > But I think you simply missed tag specification from your supfile. > > I think you may be right Here are my entries in the supfile: *default host=cvsup7.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix src-all ports-all doc-all www cvsroot-all _-------------- There is no entry: *default tag=. ----- Question is what will have happened and what should I do now? Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 17:55:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EC616A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:55:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clarus.schtriker.net (clarus.schtriker.net [193.77.83.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1987443D3F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:55:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@schtriker.net) Received: from [192.168.3.3] (Simkobook.schtriker.net [192.168.3.3]) by clarus.schtriker.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9D47E80C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:55:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4276699D.8010607@schtriker.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:55:41 +0200 From: Simon Striker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4276214B.1030307@schtriker.net> <44k6mhd7jp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <42765486.40500@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <42765486.40500@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: /etc/issue "problem" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: simon@schtriker.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:55:48 -0000 Hello again! So far I have noticed that text in /etc/issue shows up ONLY when user logs on from console. Now I wonder If there exists something like /etc/issue.net (like in Linux), where I could put the text for telnet pre-login message? Best regards, Simon -- Simon Striker Rusjanov trg 2 1000 Ljubljana +38641473856 Europe (Slovenia) E-mail: simon@schtriker.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:03:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADADA16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:03:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F33C43D69 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:03:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zslist@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so920698rnf for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lgluWiCyb8f9g3B2DpuC15EVbhaFKTg5CXsDgpn9awNU7/jLOnhlB63TGdWpcVsA10wD6nKM1bK2q3JVEXI9MPFENfPpV68uWsYftlUmLtCC9ibusGgUmd9o4Co1qtu7G0sC/wnrPd9+78CGHNcChIXsl9zjDfTuQ6BP6ljB44Y= Received: by 10.38.97.35 with SMTP id u35mr6403035rnb; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.26 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:02:59 -0700 From: benchmark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: How to diagnose network sluggish. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: benchmark List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:03:02 -0000 BSD 5.3 release I am still having network sluggish problems. Any browser (firefox, mozilla, opera) loads the same page slower than their counter parts on Windows XP (or Gentoo linux). I am setting it up as DHCP on all of these systems using the same name server, so I don't think it's DNS issuses. Any suggestions as to how to debug/diagnosis this problem? thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:04:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C3F16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:04:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674EF43D2D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zslist@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so920996rnf for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:04:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pmeX+gTLcLnrRBTkPmlIIHERFT2hwPXN51HarSPr8KmZT1EfzGz6BbmikOVrhc9r6lpzOIwXldAmPsNJeyJJJgZtk8vPgzi5Regy5ZUlnkDIV4ldJ1ao9TULsm5XUjo2bncg3xgySb1hLUThn1qTJNO5ym/4hCX03puteNcoLng= Received: by 10.38.97.4 with SMTP id u4mr5986033rnb; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.26 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:04:45 -0700 From: benchmark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Firefox hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: benchmark List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:04:45 -0000 On 4/26/05, benchmark wrote: > Basic info: > System 5.3 > portupdate last night > build firefox 1.0.3 > build linuxwrapper, flashplugins, etc. Firefox still hangs on espn.com, while opera/mozilla doesn't. There is no error messages from firefox. Any suggestions as to how to debug/diagnose this problem? thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:06:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C9116A548 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:06:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349C443D64 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:06:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C332534DA11; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869F534DA0F; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42766C08.90406@cloudview.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:06:00 -0700 From: John Pettitt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: simon@schtriker.net References: <4276214B.1030307@schtriker.net> <44k6mhd7jp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <42765486.40500@chuckr.org> <4276699D.8010607@schtriker.net> In-Reply-To: <4276699D.8010607@schtriker.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: by skipjack cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/issue "problem" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:06:01 -0000 Simon Striker wrote: > Hello again! > > So far I have noticed that text in /etc/issue shows up ONLY when user > logs on from console. > > Now I wonder If there exists something like /etc/issue.net (like in > Linux), where I could put the text for telnet pre-login message? > > Best regards, > Simon man telnetd says (in part) > By default telnetd will read the he, hn, and im capabilities from > /etc/gettytab and use that information (if present) to determine > what to > display before the login: prompt. You can also use a System V style > /etc/issue file by using the if capability, which will override > im. The > information specified in either im or if will be displayed to > both con- > sole and remote logins. sshd needs "Banner /etc/issue" in it's config to do the same thing. John.* * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:09:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0AF16A4CE; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:09:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from charm.uugrn.org (charm.uugrn.org [195.226.127.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A6943D54; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Raphael.Becker@gmx.de) Received: from daemon.local.net (rabe@localhost.uugrn.org [127.0.0.1]) by charm.uugrn.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j42I9Te8006700; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:09:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.local.net (rabe@localhost.local.net [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.local.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j42I9CNQ002595; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:09:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Raphael.Becker@gmx.de) Received: (from rabe@localhost) by daemon.local.net (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j42I9CqD002594; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:09:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Raphael.Becker@gmx.de) X-Authentication-Warning: daemon.local.net: rabe set sender to Raphael.Becker@gmx.de using -f Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 20:09:12 +0200 From: "Raphael H. Becker" To: Emanuel Strobl Message-ID: <20050502180912.GC1157@local.net> References: <200504262010.49509@harrymail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504262010.49509@harrymail> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: groff alternative? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:09:10 -0000 --+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 08:10:41PM +0200, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Hello, [manpages w/o nroff] Why not read manpages online using fetch? Try my hack at http://rabe.uugrn.org/scripts/man.sh Maybe a cache-mechanism could be added, for offline reading. Regards --=20 Raphael Becker http://rabe.uugrn.org/ http://schnitzelmitkartoffelsalat.und.rahmspin.at/ =2E........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.. --+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCdmzInNo+exDKny0RAjEfAJ9N0Wn7lhr8cXSmTvEi0s4GiqLbcgCgt5Xl l1YBTsH8CmQD5Z2N2JFPZv8= =irnt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:22:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930DE16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:22:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5119443D60 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:22:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])048C71800210 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:22:29 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 2 May 2005 18:22:28 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DE55D4BEAD; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:22:28 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:22:28 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:22:28 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050502182228.DE55D4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: What is *** WRONG *** with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:22:29 -0000 Hello. Something is terribly wrong here: 1. My name server setup is disfunctional. 2. My web, mail and fileserver is disfunctional. 3. I cannot SSH and FTP into certain servers. 4. I cannot ping my IP from the outside. 5. All this despite PF being disabled. My configuration has been running flawlessly for the past few months before these strange errors hit me three days ago. I know for a fact that this is not related to a misconfigured rc.conf, pf.conf or named.conf. I haven't run a makeworld lately, nor have I upgraded any ports. # uname -rs # FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE # ifconfig # lnc0: flags=3D108943 mtu 15= 00 inet 213.187.XXX.XX netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 213.187.XXX.XX inet6 fe80::200:4bff:fe30:1e94%lnc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:00:4b:30:1e:94 ep0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.187.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.187.255 inet6 fe80::2a0:24ff:fe1b:2ba6%ep0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:a0:24:1b:2b:a6 media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP pflog0: flags=3D0<> mtu 33208 lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 # netstat -rn # netstat: kvm not available Routing tables rt_tables: symbol not in namelist Somebody please assist me. This is a medical emergency! Thank you. -- Fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:27:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D419316A4D4 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:27:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9979343D53 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:27:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DSfdP-000LZl-Kk; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:27:11 -0400 Received: from 209.134.164.17 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2583.209.134.164.17.1115058431.squirrel@209.134.164.17> In-Reply-To: <20050502182228.DE55D4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050502182228.DE55D4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:27:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Bell" To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is *** WRONG *** with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:27:13 -0000 These are signs of a kernel that is out of sync with the rest of "world". You said you didn't run a makeworld recently, but what about rebuilding the kernel? > # netstat -rn > # > netstat: kvm not available > Routing tables > rt_tables: symbol not in namelist Jerry http://www.syslog.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:28:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEBE16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:28:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACFC43D5A for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobias.fendin@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81.227.162.56) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.1.026.7) (authenticated as u18317830) id 42687F20002B1A8D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:28:19 +0200 Message-ID: <42767143.7040607@telia.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:28:19 +0200 From: Tobias Fendin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050403) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4276681B.9060305@dslr.net> In-Reply-To: <4276681B.9060305@dslr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Working X - Anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:28:21 -0000 Subhro wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I had been trying to get Xorg 6.8.2 working on a 5.4-STABLE > installation. I had compiled Xoeg from an updated ports tree. But > while running Xorg -configure it complains that the module "pcidata" > is missing. I have uninstalled and reinstalled Xorg but without any > success. Anyone can guide me where I am going wrong? Has anyone got > Xorg 6.8.2 working from ports? I have preciously posted but didnt get > any replies :-(. > > Regards > S. Yes, I've got Xorg 6.8.2 working on 5.4-STABLE. This might give you some hints: capuzzo@asator ~ $ grep pcidata /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:38:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E92A16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:38:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DEF43D66 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:38:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005050218385501200cllu2e>; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:38:55 +0000 Message-ID: <427673BE.2030103@computer.org> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:38:54 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050325) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn References: <4273EFF5.8090504@computer.org> <20050430140440.I47465@wolf.pjkh.com> <4273F7D1.4030702@computer.org> <42763C51.1080109@computer.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Determining what a port will install... (more than pretty-print-*) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:38:56 -0000 Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 9:42 AM -0500 5/2/05, Eric Schuele wrote: > >> Garance A Drosihn wrote: >> >>> >>> I believe that 'portupgrade -n' only works right for ports which >>> you have already installed. >> >> >> Yes... That is the conclusion I have come to. >> >> I'm sure what I am trying to accomplish is just one savvy shell >> script away.... I'm just not that savvy though. If I can't find >> something which already does what I'm looking for.... I'll muddle >> through writing a script to do it. > > > If there isn't anything which already exists, then I'd try something > along the lines of 'cd'-ing into the directory of the port you want > to install, and getting the output of: > > make -V RUN_DEPENDS -V BUILD_DEPENDS -V LIB_DEPENDS > > (that should give you three lines, some or all of which might be > blank lines). Each non-blank line will be of the form "a1:b1 a2:b2 ...", > where each "a" is a pathname, and each "b" is a portname. > > I'll leave it to you to decide where you go from there... Thanks for the pointers. > > You might want to check through: cd /usr/ports/sysutils/port* > and see if any of those already do what you want to see done. > Will do. -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:41:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656D016A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:41:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2060443D46 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:41:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmorland@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so2470392nzf for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:41:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KY5xiFLh3vR1KJR9B9nmjMFHpxzOu6g3F9Pu9avVdOI+o9VLHXYaHlXfzjhJJhsgA6tLy9Yy2bel3q6twe5/AhMAvdkdr7hQrNEupw+9SgjjY7WlJ4StOd18JpVh8dLD9doTFeHHK9Hu0XhtwnAxPHI9u3rdnorSklp5lO7ZWsQ= Received: by 10.36.61.11 with SMTP id j11mr570852nza; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.18 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8ca932905050211411cade7c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:41:58 -0400 From: Chad Morland To: Dillinger In-Reply-To: <000801c54d32$c2153340$0300a8c0@cumputah> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c54d32$c2153340$0300a8c0@cumputah> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Show me X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chad Morland List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:41:59 -0000 On 4/29/05, Dillinger wrote: > Would somebody care to show me an actual working computer with FreeBSD >i= nstalled and give me a brief tour of some of the basic capabilities? I am i= n >Redwood Shores but I would be willing to drive to Berkeley or SF. Why would you do that when it is fairly trivial to install FreeBSD on your own computer? -CM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:44:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D7B16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:44:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3908643D6B for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:44:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobias.fendin@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81.227.162.56) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.1.026.7) (authenticated as u18317830) id 42687F20002B2F9F for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:44:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4276751A.6070003@telia.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:44:42 +0200 From: Tobias Fendin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050403) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <42764BCC.2000903@schmittnet.com> In-Reply-To: <42764BCC.2000903@schmittnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hostname problem on a local network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:44:45 -0000 Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote: > I have a FreeBSD 4.9 system on a private network, connected to the > internet through a Netgear router/firewall which acts as a DHCP server > and receives its names through netbios. I'm trying to set it to > respond to the fully qualified name "schfrbsd.lan". In my rc.conf, I > have the line: > > hostname="schfrbsd.lan" > > I've also tried adding a dot to the end of it: > > hostname="schfrbsd.lan." > > Whatever I do, I cannot get the machine to register itself on the > network (though Samba) as schfrbsd.lan. It always shows up as > schfrbsd. "hostname -s" returns the same value. > > Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? > > Bill Though it shouldn't be needed, you could try to set Sambas netbios name. See smb.conf(5) for more details. // Tobias Fendin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:54:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FE416A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:54:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.duth.gr (mail.duth.gr [192.108.114.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374EE43D1F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:54:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bigbrother@bonbon.net) Received: from bigb3server.ath.cx (b9-29.xan.duth.gr [193.92.211.29]) by mail.duth.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j42IsCvi049522 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:54:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from bigbrother@bonbon.net) Received: from bigb3server.bbcluster.gr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigb3server.ath.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j42Ird09088143 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:53:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from bigbrother@bonbon.net) Received: from localhost (bigbrother@localhost)j42Irc9k088140 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:53:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from bigbrother@bonbon.net) X-Authentication-Warning: bigb3server.bbcluster.gr: bigbrother owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 21:53:35 +0300 (EEST) From: BigBrother-{BigB3} To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050502213310.W575@bigb3server.bbcluster.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 192.108.114.110 X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (mail.duth.gr [192.108.114.110]); Mon, 02 May 2005 21:54:17 +0300 (EEST) Subject: I used "boot0cfg" and destroyed the MBR.All labels dissapear! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:54:20 -0000 Dear, Please help me with this strange situation, that is due to using boot0cfg with wrong switches. I googled it but I did not find any similar case. On a working 4.11 freebsd system I wanted to create a floppy bootable disk. This system had one slice and four labels. I run this command: boot0cfg -B -o update -s 1 -t 20 fd0 After I run this command I rebooted and I faced a situation where a) the floppy booting only showed F1 ??? F2 ??? F3 ??? F4 ??? (whatever I pressed it causes to beep and nothing happens) b) I removed the floppy disk and booted from the hard disc, but the same list appeared..and nothing happened. c) I boot with the 2 kernel/mfsroot diskcs with fixit also and I saw: fdisk from the 'sysinstall' shows that no slices exist, and all the space is unused. fdisk ad0 shows that there are 4 partitions with information like ====== sysid 32 (uknown) 1919950958, 544437093 (265838 Meg) (flag 0x80 active) beggining: cylinder 356 head 97 sector 46 end: cyllinder 357 head 116 secotr 40 sysid 107 (unknown) .... sysid 83 (unknown) ... sysid 73 (unknown) ... ======== Meanwhile I got the message "slice ad0s1 starts beyong end of the disk: rejecting it" "slice ad0s2 ...... rejecting it" "slice ad0s3 .... rejecting it" "slice ad0s4 ... rejecting it" It seems that all the labels of the single slice have become seperated slices. As a result I cannot mount anything and it seems that all my data is inaccessible. because this is my home freeBSD firewall and I would like to bring it back online without reinstalling and setting it up from the beggining (no backups sniff:( ) how can I fix this? If I recreate partitions (how?) without erasing the file/inode table? how can I change the type of every partition to be freebsd? And how can i change the slices to be one big slice? I think disklabel can help but I am not sure how. How can I save/backup the data on the disk? Thank you very much in advance!!! Please if you have any hint of where to search or what to do help me and I will post the results (and hopefully the solution) of this case as a reference. regards, BB --- Dreams have no limits! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:55:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C33A16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:55:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6F243D55 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:55:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])0E0A918001C8 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:55:19 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 2 May 2005 18:55:18 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CEF524BEAD; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:55:18 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:55:18 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: "Jerry Bell" Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:55:18 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050502185518.CEF524BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is *** WRONG *** with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:55:19 -0000 Thank you Jerry! I'll get right on the building! > These are signs of a kernel that is out of sync with the rest of "world". > You said you didn't run a makeworld recently, but what about rebuilding > the kernel? -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Truth @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 19:33:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FF016A4D8 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:33:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB9E43D68 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin@gish.demon.nl) Received: from gish.demon.nl ([83.160.27.223]:13957 helo=ZGISH) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DSgfB-0005Z4-Tz; Mon, 02 May 2005 19:33:06 +0000 From: "Kiffin Gish" To: , Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 21:33:06 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c54f4d$c4007e90$2301a8c0@ZGISH> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <200505011822.40221.ckleski@mbc.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: RE: DHCP using ifconfig doesn't work ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:33:07 -0000 Thanks, that did the trick. However, should be: ifconfig _wi0_ ssid GISH ... =20 --=20 Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of ckleski@mbc.edu > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 19:23 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: DHCP using ifconfig doesn't work ... >=20 > You can make a file /etc/start_if.wi0 which has the line >=20 > ifconfig ssid GISH mode auto wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890 >=20 > Keep ifconfig_wi0=3D"DHCP" in /etc/rc.conf. That should do it. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sunday 01 May 2005 07:35 pm, Kiffin Gish wrote: > > I want to use DHCP for my wireless connection by placing the = following > > lines in my /etc/rc.conf file: > > > > ifconfig_wi0=3D"DHCP" > > ifconfig_wi0=3D"ssid GISH mode auto wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890" > > > > I have also tried running sysinstall again and reconfiguring my = wireless > > connection by answering 'yes' to DHCP. > > > > However, these do not work for some weird reason. When I login as = root > > and run 'dhclient wi0' then all is a-okay. > > > > How can I have this happen automatically during boot without having > > manually to run this command as root everytime? > > > > Thanks alot in advance as usual. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 20:03:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98D816A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:03:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C0C43D68 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:03:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 17F775642E; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:03:12 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:03:12 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: vizion@ixpres.com Message-ID: <20050502200312.GB58981@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> <20050502082951.GC81673@lucky.net> <1435.64.58.171.86.1115056437.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1435.64.58.171.86.1115056437.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ignorance and file suffixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:03:15 -0000 On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:53:57AM -0700, vizion@ixpres.com wrote: > [...] > Here are my entries in the supfile: > *default host=cvsup7.freebsd.org > *default base=/var/db > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix > src-all > ports-all > doc-all > www > cvsroot-all > This setup will get you not only an up-to-date ports tree, but also the -CURRENT system sources which I suspect you don't want. What you should do is to take the supfiles in /usr/share/examples/cvsup and tweak it (all you need to do is to change the `host' specification). Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. I want to achieve it through not dying" - Woody Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 20:05:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E6116A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:05:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mbc.edu (mail.mbc.edu [216.57.240.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D4343D49 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ckleski@mbc.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.116] by mbc.edu (Cipher TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.0f2.R) with ESMTP id md50004809589.msg for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 16:04:31 -0400 From: ckleski@mbc.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:06:10 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <000e01c54f4d$c4007e90$2301a8c0@ZGISH> In-Reply-To: <000e01c54f4d$c4007e90$2301a8c0@ZGISH> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505021606.10292.ckleski@mbc.edu> X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Message: md50004809589.msg X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Rules: tgibseut-MDPv0.53b (SNFv2-3.1i2) No patterns matched. X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Result: 0 X-Authenticated-Sender: ckleski@mbc.edu X-Spam-Processed: mail.mbc.edu, Mon, 02 May 2005 16:04:31 -0400 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 192.168.2.116 does not match 71.0.82.82 X-MDRemoteIP: 71.0.82.82 X-Return-Path: ckleski@mbc.edu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail.mbc.edu, Mon, 02 May 2005 16:04:38 -0400 Subject: Re: DHCP using ifconfig doesn't work ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:05:08 -0000 I don't need the underscore in my version of this file; perhaps something has changed in -stable that makes the underscore necessary. Anyway, glad you got it to work. On Monday 02 May 2005 07:33 pm, Kiffin Gish wrote: > Thanks, that did the trick. > > However, should be: > > ifconfig _wi0_ ssid GISH ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 20:07:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7EE16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:07:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD8F43D2F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 20308 invoked from network); 2 May 2005 20:07:47 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 May 2005 20:07:47 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0EBF555; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Michael Neeff" References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 02 May 2005 16:07:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44u0llmlwu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:07:48 -0000 "Michael Neeff" writes: > I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other > combinations : > mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 > /cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... What "same thing"? What does it say when you type that? Does anything get printed in the log? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 20:09:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7204016A4D1 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:09:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C86843D41 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:09:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1440222wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:09:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OSnQv+VqcuQJt3cnhpd7jLdaZqAdqiWqujW7n9vvKfeZf1PciXm1Qw5Ga4EYPdFYOUKr7LdJloJ4o10TeeCl5i5hufJssjw2Y1giQ+vWYcQqabB7uRZJXRXnyron5Hix/RhS81QhKszTFre8bND7AWdo82Uh4/jIPi4+p6Pr0Dg= Received: by 10.54.122.7 with SMTP id u7mr755451wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.6 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63c3899e05050213092dc6ec28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 21:09:18 +0100 From: Chris Hodgins To: Fafa Diliha Romanova In-Reply-To: <20050502182228.DE55D4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050502182228.DE55D4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is *** WRONG *** with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:09:20 -0000 On 5/2/05, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > Hello. >=20 > Something is terribly wrong here: >=20 > 1. My name server setup is disfunctional. > 2. My web, mail and fileserver is disfunctional. > 3. I cannot SSH and FTP into certain servers. > 4. I cannot ping my IP from the outside. > 5. All this despite PF being disabled. >=20 > My configuration has been running flawlessly for > the past few months before these strange errors > hit me three days ago. >=20 > I know for a fact that this is not related to a > misconfigured rc.conf, pf.conf or named.conf. > I haven't run a makeworld lately, nor have I > upgraded any ports. >=20 > # uname -rs > # > FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE >=20 > # ifconfig > # > lnc0: flags=3D108943 mtu = 1500 > inet 213.187.XXX.XX netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 213.187.XXX.XX > inet6 fe80::200:4bff:fe30:1e94%lnc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > ether 00:00:4b:30:1e:94 > ep0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.187.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.187.255 > inet6 fe80::2a0:24ff:fe1b:2ba6%ep0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > ether 00:a0:24:1b:2b:a6 > media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP > pflog0: flags=3D0<> mtu 33208 > lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 >=20 > # netstat -rn > # > netstat: kvm not available > Routing tables > rt_tables: symbol not in namelist Is your base system and kernel in sync? Try cvsup'ing your base system then buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, installworld. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 20:23:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A77A16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:23:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C9643D5A for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id j42KNS0x027970; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:23:28 +0300 Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 2 May 05 23:23:29 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 2 May 05 23:23:13 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (192.168.1.2) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 2 May 05 23:23:10 +0300 Message-ID: <42768C31.5050107@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:23:13 +0300 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Neeff References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:23:32 -0000 Hi Michael! I was hoping someone can give you a more definite answer, but it seems=20 no-one knowledgeable has responded, so here are my comments, worth=20 exactly what you paid for them :) > I've been trying since the past couple of days to get my sound back... = > it all started when I followed the steps from the manual in setting up = > statically sound drivers for my old Compaq DeskPro EN series...for=20 > FreeBSD 5.3. I included the "snd_sbc" driver, since when I kldload=20 > snd_driver it comes up as ESS 1869 in my kernel file (MYKERNEL).. I als= o=20 > included the line "device sound" in the MYKERNEL (customized kernel Chp= =2E=20 > 7) for some reason it doesn't work when I want to run mpg123... The above stuff seems roughly correct. That's how I built sound into=20 kernel on my home PC, but I'm not at that PC now so I can't check my=20 kernel config. What do you mean by "it doesn't work"? Do you get an error message? Or=20 simply nothing happens? In the latter case, check your mixer settings,=20 speaker volume knob and physical connections. After building sound into kernel, you can also remove the relevant=20 module loading lines from /boot/loader.conf, but I think that even if=20 you left them in it shouldn't prevent sound from working - you would=20 just get an error message saying something to the tune of "file already=20 exists", meaning that the functionality for which you are trying to load = the module is already included in the kernel. > ...Anyways this is the least of my problems. I now comment the lines:=20 > device snd_sbc, device sound recomplie the kernel and keep getting=20 > cd9660: device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error when I try to mount any of m= y=20 > CDs... (music or data)=20 You shouldn't try to mount music CDs since they don't contain any=20 filesystem that can be mounted. The error message above is exactly what=20 you get when you try to mount an audio CD. Mounting data CDs should=20 work, though. Does the command 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' contain any text? > I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other=20 > combinations : > mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0=20 > /cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... At least *some* of the above commands should work ;-) > I even tried loading my old kernel (GENERIC) from=20 > /boot/kernel.old/kernel (Btw, is this the same as the last recompile of= =20 > MYKERNE?L... I think I have compiled 3/4 times by now in the hopes that= =20 > this would work) Yes, every time you build an install new kernel, the previous kernel is=20 copied to kernel.old and previous kernel.old is wiped out. So it is well = possible that you don't even have the original kernel with which things=20 worked on your system any more. > HELP - I'm a newbie... I've got almost everything working with KDE=20 > 3.3...and now back to this. I was so happy when I could run cdcontrol=20 > from the command line and now I'm :o( frustrated !! One more thing you could try is to get the GENERIC kernel from e.g.=20 installation CDs and boot with that. --=20 Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- |arvutiv=F5rgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| |Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | ----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 20:31:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD4816A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:31:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from de01egw01.freescale.net (de01egw01.freescale.net [192.88.165.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439EA43D58 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:31:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r68606@freescale.com) Received: from de01smr01.am.mot.com (de01smr01.freescale.net [10.208.0.31]) j42LZBWj025808 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:35:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.80.61.36] (opera.am.freescale.net [10.80.61.36]) by de01smr01.am.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j42KZ9Uk013795 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:35:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42768E35.2090706@freescale.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:31:49 -0500 From: Jim Freeze User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040920 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How does one bootstrap DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:31:52 -0000 Hi I am wondering if the following is possible. Suppose I own two domains: abc.com and xyz.org. I want to host these domains myself and have them provide the primary and secondary name servers for each other. Is this possible? Seems kind of circular. In theory I would have ns1.abc.com to map to the IP of abc.com and ns2.abc.com to map to the IP of xyz.org. This will give me my primary and secondary name servers. So, to set this up, I go the the registrar of abc.com and attempt to enter a name server: NS1 ns1.abc.com 1.2.3.4 NS2 ns2.abc.com 5.6.7.8 In my attempts so far, the registrar has said that either the name server is invalid or it doesn't like me entering just an IP address, it wants a name. Is this a common practive, or do most people use a service like zoneedit. Thanks Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 20:52:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACD016A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:52:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582A443D5F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:52:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j42KqSpS003056; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:52:28 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:52:44 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42768C31.5050107@raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <42768C31.5050107@raad.tartu.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505021352.44299.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Michael Neeff cc: Toomas Aas Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:52:48 -0000 On Monday 02 May 2005 01:23 pm, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hi Michael! > > I was hoping someone can give you a more definite answer, but it > seems no-one knowledgeable has responded, so here are my comments, > worth exactly what you paid for them :) They asked the right question. For example, you can't mount an audio CD. You have to play it :). Let's go back to basic and start with what did Michael do. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 21:14:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438B616A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:14:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54008.mail.yahoo.com (web54008.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0F5043D45 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:14:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 39242 invoked by uid 60001); 2 May 2005 21:14:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20050502211410.39240.qmail@web54008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:14:10 PDT Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:14:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob To: fteg@london.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: What is *** WRONG *** with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:14:14 -0000 Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > # netstat -rn > # > netstat: kvm not available > Routing tables > rt_tables: symbol not in namelist If it isn't in the kernel config, you may need: # kldload mem to get this to work. Rob. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 21:49:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DF316A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:49:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D6543D8A for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42LnHCs014008; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:49:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 204B461F1; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:49:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 23:49:17 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050502214917.GA44398@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, iqgrande@asu.edu References: <1114996721.42757ff1e12a4@webmail.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1114996721.42757ff1e12a4@webmail.asu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: iqgrande@asu.edu Subject: Re: Scanning under FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:49:21 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 06:18:41PM -0700, iqgrande@asu.edu wrote: > Hello everyone, >=20 > I posted an email sometime back asking for help getting my scanner to > work under FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. Upon not receiving any responses, I > did some more research and tinkering and decided to update to FreeBSD > 5.4-STABLE to see if that would fix the problem and it has not. In any > event, when I try to scan something as root, I receive the following > error: >=20 > ast# sane-find-scanner -q > found USB scanner (vendor=3D0x03f0, product=3D0x0205) at /dev/uscanner0 > ast# scanimage -L > device `niash:/dev/uscanner0' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 3300C flatbed = scanner > ast# scanimage > image.pnm > scanimage: open of device niash:/dev/uscanner0 failed: Device busy Try building sane-backends without libusb support. My epson scanner works fine without libusb, and it's one less dependancy. If you try this, you should change /usr/local/etc/sane.d/hp.conf to something like: usb /dev/uscanner0 According to the sane-hp(5) manual page, you could also try the "dumb-read" option. If you want to use your scanner as a normal user, there are some tips on my freebsd page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ HTH, Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCdqBdEnfvsMMhpyURAtBqAJ90kPqqd4A/MGCuPdPp/DAyEqZ97ACfWx5j fv8QdvniKykGnHgNzFtneco= =A5Ko -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:26:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD3B16A4EA for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:26:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.ixpres.com (smtp3.ixpres.com [216.240.160.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C72043D5A for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:26:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from webmail.ixpres.com (webmail.ixpres.com [216.240.160.200]) by smtp3.ixpres.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j45MblC18827; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:37:47 -0700 Received: from 64.58.171.91 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vizion@ixpres.com) by webmail.ixpres.com with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1976.64.58.171.91.1115075772.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <20050502200312.GB58981@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> <20050502082951.GC81673@lucky.net> <1435.64.58.171.86.1115056437.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> <20050502200312.GB58981@osiris.chen.org.nz> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:16:12 -0700 (PDT) From: vizion@ixpres.com To: "Jonathan Chen" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ignorance and file suffixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:26:02 -0000 > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:53:57AM -0700, vizion@ixpres.com wrote: >> > > [...] >> Here are my entries in the supfile: >> *default host=cvsup7.freebsd.org >> *default base=/var/db >> *default prefix=/usr >> *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix >> src-all >> ports-all >> doc-all >> www >> cvsroot-all >> > > This setup will get you not only an up-to-date ports tree, but also > the -CURRENT system sources which I suspect you don't want. What you > should do is to take the supfiles in /usr/share/examples/cvsup and > tweak it (all you need to do is to change the `host' specification). Thanks done that. I hope that will solve my inconsistencies with X when I have finished cvsuping (sounds like eating while making a job application) BTW I got a fail on the .sh file for installing X asking for extract.exe -- I did not find the sources for that -- I am wondering if it goes by some other name. David David Southwell Ham call sign M0TAU 40 yrs ocean and computing experience. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. sailing May bound for Europe via Panama Canal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:49:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B238E16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:49:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493E243D2D for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1484806wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ko7fOT1akBjpCOv6nTq+6pP4gRL3AaWEEvGhfL/W1KLoxjt0L8ZQ/DqV5MY8iUT3Htp+nDH03DW7mV/nOHczzfPSGF0WwDd9L/AUcUo50A/Ptbx7lh973Uon8a+JevR0vk/yV+YtLBxiznQwoS1K7hzmBdI2muNNPzGm6WDzXcs= Received: by 10.54.113.12 with SMTP id l12mr72372wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.7 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 02:49:12 +0300 From: Abu Khaled To: Subhro In-Reply-To: <4276681B.9060305@dslr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4276681B.9060305@dslr.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Working X - Anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:49:13 -0000 On 5/2/05, Subhro wrote: > Hello Folks, >=20 > I had been trying to get Xorg 6.8.2 working on a 5.4-STABLE > installation. I had compiled Xoeg from an updated ports tree. But while > running Xorg -configure it complains that the module "pcidata" is > missing. I have uninstalled and reinstalled Xorg but without any > success. Anyone can guide me where I am going wrong? Has anyone got Xorg > 6.8.2 working from ports? I have preciously posted but didnt get any > replies :-(. >=20 > Regards > S. I tested Xorg port a few weeks ago and it worked fine except a few problems I had because of a high security level (modules refused to load). It might be useful to post the error message you get when starting X so others can try to figure out the problem/solution. --=20 Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 00:13:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C108816A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 00:13:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wale.mainframe.ca (wale.mainframe.ca [209.17.131.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E30F43D6D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 00:13:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmacpherson@mainframe.ca) Received: from jupiter.mainframe.ca ([10.0.0.12] helo=mail.mainframe.ca) by wale.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DSl2F-0003WO-HP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 17:13:11 -0700 Received: from [172.16.139.102] (helo=Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca) by mail.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DSl2F-000ENF-AJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2005 17:13:11 -0700 From: Derrick MacPherson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Mainframe Entertainment Inc Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:13:10 -0700 Message-Id: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "wale.mainframe.ca", hasmessagelabel similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.freebsd systems. I seem to be confusing articles that are 'how to mirror' and 'how to be a mirror'. Is there some details/info out there that could be of help? I would have thought it would be enough to be running ports/net/cvsup- mirror would be enough on the server, and then theup seeing: May 2 12:40:49 cvs cvsupd[57822]: =3 Unknown collection "ports-all" [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- Subject: creating a local cvsup mirror. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 00:13:12 -0000 I want to create a local mirror for my internal freebsd systems. I seem to be confusing articles that are 'how to mirror' and 'how to be a mirror'. Is there some details/info out there that could be of help? I would have thought it would be enough to be running ports/net/cvsup- mirror would be enough on the server, and then the clients here would use 'cvsup -h my_cvs_server ports-all' but I end up seeing: May 2 12:40:49 cvs cvsupd[57822]: =3 Unknown collection "ports-all" So if someone can clarify/point/whatever, much appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 00:28:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F07F16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 00:28:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (flb.schmalzbauer.de [62.245.232.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9C343D76 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 00:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harry@schmalzbauer.de) Received: from korso.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (korso.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.2.3]) by flb.schmalzbauer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j430RttW072706 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:27:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from harry@cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) Received: from cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.1.254]) by korso.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9669C13D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:27:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j430RtFM004109 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:27:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from harry@cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) j430Rsnx004108 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:27:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from harry@cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) From: Harald Schmalzbauer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.8 X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UID: 4720 X-Length: 1650 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 02:27:47 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3780670.CviHLBgtd0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505030227.54355@harrymail> Subject: split stdin-out drawing terminal/console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 00:28:03 -0000 --nextPart3780670.CviHLBgtd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dear all, I wonder if there exists a cons25 or pcvt replacement which splits the scre= en=20 into at least the input area and the output area. I mean, the 4 (or so)=20 bottom lines are stdin and the upper 20 lines stdout, maybe even seperated= =20 into a 5 lines head which is stderror. I haven't ever seen (touched) such an old "terminal" which was a printer an= d a=20 keyboard but I could imagine that it's not too bad to have the channels=20 seperated. Thanks, =2DHarry --nextPart3780670.CviHLBgtd0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCdsWKBylq0S4AzzwRAnQXAJ44OZV/zGs7hwLJhpGMdAjE4JryPgCeMz20 SQe86KJ1irft51c0PdECsz0= =Xllv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3780670.CviHLBgtd0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 00:45:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0213316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 00:45:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm01.prodigy.net (ylpvm01-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ADC43D5F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 00:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from antennex@swbell.net) Received: from SAGEAME (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73])j430jJm5014188; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:45:20 -0400 Message-ID: <025f01c54f79$77b0f4d0$0200000a@SAGEAME> From: "antenneX" To: , References: <023201c54e4a$c40a8f60$0200000a@SAGEAME> <1114956462.765f461385934@mail.bg> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 19:45:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: question about mksnap_ffs and NFS interaction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: antenneX List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 00:45:58 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: Re: question about mksnap_ffs and NFS interaction >>> > >>> >>> Glad to see a question on this subject and my reply is just more >>> questions rather than an answer. >>> >>> I've just moved to 5.4RC3 & read most of the docs and this snap issue is >>> new to me too. Howe are you scheduling? I noticed I never got a snapshot >>> until I ran the command to do snaps on each FS. So, I scheduled one for >>> "noon" as a cron job. Now I get a regular "snap" plus the "nooner", but >>> they show a random time & both done about the same time. >>> >>> A mystery to me so far... sure like the new snap feature though. >>> > Hello, boys! So as you are speaking for those thing called "snashot" i will beg you to share some experience about it. How do you find it works, have you made rebuild of the system from a snanshot... and so.. Thanks --------------------------------------------------- No rebuild yet, but have mounted to see how easy it is to retrieve files. Since I run run rebootable clones of my main HD to a 2nd HD every 2-3 days anyway, this daily snapshot just gives me more frequent backups. Mounting and using the clones is a similar approach. Of course my clones includes every filesystem as well as those snapshots. The FFS is really fast too. I like it and restoring is next on my list once I fully understand the nuances. ----------------------------- Íå ïðàâåòå òîâà â äîìà èëè îôèñà! âèæ http://www.gsmreview.com/kip.html _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 00:55:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898E816A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 00:55:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (levanto.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E3943D60 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 00:55:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from bofh.spyderweb.com.au (202-6-154-85.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.85]) by levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54435CA0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:25:55 +0930 (CST) Received: from spyderweb.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.spyderweb.com.au (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j430u2Nb062056 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:26:03 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:26:02 +0930 From: Tim Aslat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050503102602.036d6fc6@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> References: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> Organization: Spyderweb Consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: creating a local cvsup mirror. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 00:55:58 -0000 In the immortal words of Derrick MacPherson ... > I want to create a local mirror for my internal freebsd systems. I > seem to be confusing articles that are 'how to mirror' and 'how to be > a mirror'. Is there some details/info out there that could be of help? > I would have thought it would be enough to be running ports/net/cvsup- > mirror would be enough on the server, and then the clients here would > use 'cvsup -h my_cvs_server ports-all' but I end up seeing: > May 2 12:40:49 cvs cvsupd[57822]: =3 Unknown collection "ports-all" > > So if someone can clarify/point/whatever, much appreciated. check out /usr/ports/net/cvsup-mirror/ it sets up a local cvsup mirror which you can use locally Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 8 84193434 Mobile: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 01:11:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CE316A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 01:11:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ip193-230.digitalrealm.net [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FB243D77 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 01:11:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@tvog.net) Received: from pcp01940037pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net ([68.32.91.204] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DSlx8-00029E-3t; Mon, 02 May 2005 21:11:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4276D059.6010206@tvog.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:14:01 -0400 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derrick MacPherson References: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> In-Reply-To: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tvog.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating a local cvsup mirror. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 01:11:14 -0000 Derrick MacPherson wrote: >I want to create a local mirror for my internal freebsd systems. I seem >to be confusing articles that are 'how to mirror' and 'how to be a >mirror'. Is there some details/info out there that could be of help? I >would have thought it would be enough to be running ports/net/cvsup- >mirror would be enough on the server, and then the clients here would >use 'cvsup -h my_cvs_server ports-all' but I end up seeing: >May 2 12:40:49 cvs cvsupd[57822]: =3 Unknown collection "ports-all" > >So if someone can clarify/point/whatever, much appreciated. > > /usr/ports/net/cvsup-mirror Regards, Frank Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 01:16:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233DD16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 01:16:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq2.home.nl (smtpq2.home.nl [213.51.128.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8126443D6E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 01:16:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=56947 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSm1x-0001wy-Na for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 03:16:57 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:56939 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DSm1w-0000nw-DM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 03:16:56 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 03:16:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505030316.17388.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: QPL vs GPL for QT and derivatives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 01:16:59 -0000 Hi all, This is not meant to induce flames, please just don't answer to any flamish comments. I'm just really wondering about this. QT and derivs have either the GPL (2) or QPL license but we have and use the GPL one. First question: do they differ in distribution, eg x11-gpl versus the qpl version? I never tried but I'm sure someone did/knows/asked. Second question: if they are the same source wise, the QPL seems a lot more BSD-like: it basically says: can use if not commercial without disclosing source, should one want to. In essence any BSD app under QT should live happily under that, the burden is on the person who would want to use that code next _and_ it could be GPL'ed at any time if she wants to, with the original being left QPL'ed which for us basically means BSD'ed as long as not commercial (and it's not like the fees will starve you if you want them). Third: if they are not the same source wise, does anyone have any idea if it's a huge leap and perhaps (implied) a regression, in that case it's likely out of the question for practical reasons alone. Thus I'm wondering, are there technical problems or philosophical ones with using the QPL rather than GPL with qt? Perhaps it just never came up, or people don't find it important. I personally think the QPL is rather fair and generous. From a BSDL standpoint it may be preferred over GPL2 (If GPL3 gets as bad as some fear it will never be widespread adapted, we shouldn't worry about GPL3 IMHO, and neither will it be so bad). What are your opinions/added knowledge or facts or thoughts on this? Some may find it nitpicking, and perhaps it is, but I'd still like to hear some opinions on this anyhow. I could get the bare info by (quite a long) google probably but I'm also interested in hearing opinions. This is an opinionated subject anyway, I know. Thanks, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 01:41:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8173416A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 01:41:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AE343D67 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 01:41:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])j431f011039615; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:41:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 39238-02; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:41:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4])j431eUOT039603; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:40:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:40:30 +1000 Received: from [10.0.17.42] ([10.0.17.42]) by svmailmel.bytecraft.internal with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 May 2005 11:40:29 +1000 From: Murray Taylor Organization: Bytecraft Systems To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:40:28 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200505030227.54355@harrymail> In-Reply-To: <200505030227.54355@harrymail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505031140.28478.murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 01:40:29.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[1681ADA0:01C54F81] cc: Harald Schmalzbauer Subject: Re: split stdin-out drawing terminal/console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 01:41:09 -0000 On Tue, 3 May 2005 10:27, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Dear all, > > I wonder if there exists a cons25 or pcvt replacement which splits the screen > into at least the input area and the output area. I mean, the 4 (or so) > bottom lines are stdin and the upper 20 lines stdout, maybe even seperated > into a 5 lines head which is stderror. > I haven't ever seen (touched) such an old "terminal" which was a printer and a > keyboard but I could imagine that it's not too bad to have the channels > seperated. > > Thanks, > > -Harry > Sounds like something that could be written using the curses libraries but I dont know of anything existing -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer --------------------------------- Bytecraft Systems & Entertainment Phone: 61 3 8710 2555 Fax: 61 3 8710 2599 Direct: 61 3 9238 4275 Mobile: 61 0417 319 256 Email: murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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What you >> should do is to take the supfiles in /usr/share/examples/cvsup and >> tweak it (all you need to do is to change the `host' specification). > > Thanks done that. > I hope that will solve my inconsistencies with X when I have finished > cvsuping (sounds like eating while making a job application) > > BTW I got a fail on the .sh file for installing X asking for extract.exe > -- I did not find the sources for that -- I am wondering if it goes by > some other name. > > David > > PS If someone can answer the above question it would be appreciated. At the same time I followed the advice to modify the supfile in line with the example "stable-supfile" On running cvsup I received an error message < Realease not specified for collection "ports-all"> There is the following line in my supfile, taken from the example, which is: "ports-all tag=." Now I do want to cvsup all the ports. I am running freebsd 5.3. The other line (which may be relevant is: "*Default release=cvs tag-RELENG_5" Can anyone tell me if these lines are correct? Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 03:13:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A256916A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:13:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51108.mail.yahoo.com (web51108.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20BFC43D5A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:13:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 69851 invoked by uid 60001); 3 May 2005 03:13:57 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:13:58 -0000 how can i block a MAC address with ipfw ? can you share the syntax please ? thanks *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ God is the Greatest __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 03:26:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FB216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:26:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E3643D77 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:26:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E45D34DA11; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF47534D435; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4276EF4B.8000305@cloudview.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:26:03 -0700 From: John Pettitt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: faisal gillani References: <20050503031357.69849.qmail@web51108.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050503031357.69849.qmail@web51108.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AV-Checked: by skipjack cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: blocking MAC address with ipfw ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:26:06 -0000 faisal gillani wrote: > faisal gillani wrote: > >how can i block a MAC address with ipfw ? >can you share the syntax please ? > > >thanks > man ipfw reveals ... { MAC | mac } dst-mac src-mac Match packets with a given dst-mac and src-mac addresses, speci- fied as the any keyword (matching any MAC address), or six groups of hex digits separated by colons, and optionally followed by a mask indicating the significant bits. The mask may be specified using either of the following methods: 1. A slash (/) followed by the number of significant bits. For example, an address with 33 significant bits could be specified as: MAC 10:20:30:40:50:60/33 any 2. An ampersand (&) followed by a bitmask specified as six groups of hex digits separated by colons. For example, an address in which the last 16 bits are significant could be specified as: MAC 10:20:30:40:50:60&00:00:00:00:ff:ff any Note that the ampersand character has a special meaning in many shells and should generally be escaped. Note that the order of MAC addresses (destination first, source second) is the same as on the wire, but the opposite of the one used for IP addresses. So ipfw add 999 deny MAC any 10:20:30:40:50:60/33 would be a valid rule. > > >*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ > God is the Greatest > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 03:42:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8317A16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:42:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f27.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E43443D79 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:42:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cool_mike_21@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:42:48 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.205 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 03:42:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.205] X-Originating-Email: [cool_mike_21@hotmail.com] X-Sender: cool_mike_21@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <44u0llmlwu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: "Michael Neeff" To: freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:42:48 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 03:42:48.0916 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D06B140:01C54F92] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:42:03 -0000 when I try to mount the CD using the below it says: cd9660 /dev/acd0 Input / Output error Thanks! >From: Lowell Gilbert >To: "Michael Neeff" >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM >Date: 02 May 2005 16:07:45 -0400 > > > > I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other > > combinations : > > mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 > > /cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... > >What "same thing"? What does it say when you type that? >Does anything get printed in the log? > > >-- >Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 03:59:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC12B16A4CF; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:59:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f16.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724E843D2D; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cool_mike_21@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:59:58 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.205 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 03:59:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.205] X-Originating-Email: [cool_mike_21@hotmail.com] X-Sender: cool_mike_21@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <42768C31.5050107@raad.tartu.ee> From: "Michael Neeff" To: toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:59:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 03:59:58.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[92D98450:01C54F94] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:59:58 -0000 Hey Toomas, Thanks for your detailed reply. As far as problem #1: When I re-complied to statically include the sound it gives me no output, not even when I used kldload to load the driver... it simply loads without any output... How do I check mixer settings? I am religiously following step by step instructions to the installation: Chapter 7.2.3: Did this screw up my output? # sysctl hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4 # sysctl hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 As for problem #2 which is the frustrating part and I need to get working is - I used to be able to mount my /cdrom and view files on the CD - even if they meant MP3s & even it meant I could not play them back... Now it simply goes to the error: cd9660: device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error It's been the start of week#3 and this is taking too long to setup one operating system !! (that's where windoze wins, simply pop in the CD and forget-about-da-rest). I guess I lost my original kernel so that's why I'm in an endless loop... :o( Thanks for your response I'll send y'all the output from the 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' I'm away from my PC right now. >From: Toomas Aas >To: Michael Neeff >CC: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM >Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:23:13 +0300 > >Hi Michael! > >I was hoping someone can give you a more definite answer, but it seems >no-one knowledgeable has responded, so here are my comments, worth exactly >what you paid for them :) > >>I've been trying since the past couple of days to get my sound back... it >>all started when I followed the steps from the manual in setting up >>statically sound drivers for my old Compaq DeskPro EN series...for FreeBSD >>5.3. I included the "snd_sbc" driver, since when I kldload snd_driver it >>comes up as ESS 1869 in my kernel file (MYKERNEL).. I also included the >>line "device sound" in the MYKERNEL (customized kernel Chp. 7) for some >>reason it doesn't work when I want to run mpg123... > >The above stuff seems roughly correct. That's how I built sound into kernel >on my home PC, but I'm not at that PC now so I can't check my kernel >config. > >What do you mean by "it doesn't work"? Do you get an error message? Or >simply nothing happens? In the latter case, check your mixer settings, >speaker volume knob and physical connections. > >After building sound into kernel, you can also remove the relevant module >loading lines from /boot/loader.conf, but I think that even if you left >them in it shouldn't prevent sound from working - you would just get an >error message saying something to the tune of "file already exists", >meaning that the functionality for which you are trying to load the module >is already included in the kernel. > >>...Anyways this is the least of my problems. I now comment the lines: >>device snd_sbc, device sound recomplie the kernel and keep getting cd9660: >>device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error when I try to mount any of my CDs... >>(music or data) > >You shouldn't try to mount music CDs since they don't contain any >filesystem that can be mounted. The error message above is exactly what you >get when you try to mount an audio CD. Mounting data CDs should work, >though. > >Does the command 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' contain any text? > >>I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other >>combinations : >>mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 >>/cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... > >At least *some* of the above commands should work ;-) > >>I even tried loading my old kernel (GENERIC) from /boot/kernel.old/kernel >>(Btw, is this the same as the last recompile of MYKERNE?L... I think I >>have compiled 3/4 times by now in the hopes that this would work) > >Yes, every time you build an install new kernel, the previous kernel is >copied to kernel.old and previous kernel.old is wiped out. So it is well >possible that you don't even have the original kernel with which things >worked on your system any more. > >>HELP - I'm a newbie... I've got almost everything working with KDE >>3.3...and now back to this. I was so happy when I could run cdcontrol from >>the command line and now I'm :o( frustrated !! > >One more thing you could try is to get the GENERIC kernel from e.g. >installation CDs and boot with that. > >-- >Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- >|arvutivõrgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| >|Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | >----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 03:59:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC12B16A4CF; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:59:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f16.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724E843D2D; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cool_mike_21@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:59:58 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.205 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 03:59:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.205] X-Originating-Email: [cool_mike_21@hotmail.com] X-Sender: cool_mike_21@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <42768C31.5050107@raad.tartu.ee> From: "Michael Neeff" To: toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:59:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 03:59:58.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[92D98450:01C54F94] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:59:58 -0000 Hey Toomas, Thanks for your detailed reply. As far as problem #1: When I re-complied to statically include the sound it gives me no output, not even when I used kldload to load the driver... it simply loads without any output... How do I check mixer settings? I am religiously following step by step instructions to the installation: Chapter 7.2.3: Did this screw up my output? # sysctl hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4 # sysctl hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 As for problem #2 which is the frustrating part and I need to get working is - I used to be able to mount my /cdrom and view files on the CD - even if they meant MP3s & even it meant I could not play them back... Now it simply goes to the error: cd9660: device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error It's been the start of week#3 and this is taking too long to setup one operating system !! (that's where windoze wins, simply pop in the CD and forget-about-da-rest). I guess I lost my original kernel so that's why I'm in an endless loop... :o( Thanks for your response I'll send y'all the output from the 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' I'm away from my PC right now. >From: Toomas Aas >To: Michael Neeff >CC: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM >Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:23:13 +0300 > >Hi Michael! > >I was hoping someone can give you a more definite answer, but it seems >no-one knowledgeable has responded, so here are my comments, worth exactly >what you paid for them :) > >>I've been trying since the past couple of days to get my sound back... it >>all started when I followed the steps from the manual in setting up >>statically sound drivers for my old Compaq DeskPro EN series...for FreeBSD >>5.3. I included the "snd_sbc" driver, since when I kldload snd_driver it >>comes up as ESS 1869 in my kernel file (MYKERNEL).. I also included the >>line "device sound" in the MYKERNEL (customized kernel Chp. 7) for some >>reason it doesn't work when I want to run mpg123... > >The above stuff seems roughly correct. That's how I built sound into kernel >on my home PC, but I'm not at that PC now so I can't check my kernel >config. > >What do you mean by "it doesn't work"? Do you get an error message? Or >simply nothing happens? In the latter case, check your mixer settings, >speaker volume knob and physical connections. > >After building sound into kernel, you can also remove the relevant module >loading lines from /boot/loader.conf, but I think that even if you left >them in it shouldn't prevent sound from working - you would just get an >error message saying something to the tune of "file already exists", >meaning that the functionality for which you are trying to load the module >is already included in the kernel. > >>...Anyways this is the least of my problems. I now comment the lines: >>device snd_sbc, device sound recomplie the kernel and keep getting cd9660: >>device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error when I try to mount any of my CDs... >>(music or data) > >You shouldn't try to mount music CDs since they don't contain any >filesystem that can be mounted. The error message above is exactly what you >get when you try to mount an audio CD. Mounting data CDs should work, >though. > >Does the command 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' contain any text? > >>I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other >>combinations : >>mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 >>/cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... > >At least *some* of the above commands should work ;-) > >>I even tried loading my old kernel (GENERIC) from /boot/kernel.old/kernel >>(Btw, is this the same as the last recompile of MYKERNE?L... I think I >>have compiled 3/4 times by now in the hopes that this would work) > >Yes, every time you build an install new kernel, the previous kernel is >copied to kernel.old and previous kernel.old is wiped out. So it is well >possible that you don't even have the original kernel with which things >worked on your system any more. > >>HELP - I'm a newbie... I've got almost everything working with KDE >>3.3...and now back to this. I was so happy when I could run cdcontrol from >>the command line and now I'm :o( frustrated !! > >One more thing you could try is to get the GENERIC kernel from e.g. >installation CDs and boot with that. > >-- >Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- >|arvutivõrgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| >|Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | >----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 06:45:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1809C16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:45:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E7143D7B for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:45:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soheil.h.y@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1540658wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 23:45:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hE9pYJ7C2vWdAw7BNqzU21iReuLRM16a7t6Qw2qDRxNEEqN5b0nsZjceFSJoVHrubdBOQtzWIMxjDRCHMZNwIi/2yETVIrIsLexa4qgRclSsYas288SQpOLEVRItXbsunIv81bDXAaNQoDzpq+EEQP4HDBcdxajbyd3nAJKr8vA= Received: by 10.54.114.2 with SMTP id m2mr927704wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 23:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.84.14 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c90b772050502234549589928@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:15:51 +0430 From: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_11477_2725504.1115102751973" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 NVIDIA-1.0.7174 GLX extension problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 06:45:53 -0000 ------=_Part_11477_2725504.1115102751973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dear All, I have problem using NVIDIA-1.0.7174. It failed to load GLX. What i can do for this? This is a warnings and errors of my X.org log (WW) NV(0): Option "CursorShadow" is not used (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) I have attached the complete X.org log ------=_Part_11477_2725504.1115102751973-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 06:48:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D164116A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:48:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.arax.md (mail.arax.md [217.26.160.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2F243D7E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:48:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cezar@arax.md) Received: from qvirtual (helo=mail.arax.md) by mail.arax.md with local-smtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DSrD9-000NYE-QI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:48:51 +0300 Received: from cezar.arax.md ([217.26.161.51]) by mail.arax.md with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DSrD9-000NY9-Ld for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:48:51 +0300 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:54:33 +0300 From: Cezar Fistik X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <85311408.20050503095433@arax.md> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1e58dbf60504291157584df41d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e58dbf605042910446019d258@mail.gmail.com> <1e58dbf60504291157584df41d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: UPDATE -- Re: PHP 4.3.11 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: arax List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 06:48:44 -0000 Hello, Mike. You wrote 29 =E0=EF=F0=E5=EB=FF 2005 =E3., 21:57:18: >> I recently upgraded to PHP 4.3.11 from Ports on my 4.9-RELEASE system, >> and I'm suddenly having troubles running PHP. Whether we're talking a >> web app or running from a command line, I get core dump errors. >> Specifically: >>=20 >> su-2.05b# php -i >> Bus error (core dumped) >>=20 >> And in /var/log/messages when accessing a PHP page, even one with just >> phpinfo() in it: >> Apr 29 12:41:31 jules /kernel: pid 28369 (httpd), uid 80: exited on sign= al 10 >>=20 >> I've seen the bus error/core dumps there too. Any ideas what could be >> causing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated! > I downgraded to version 4.3.10 with a downloaded tgz package, and that > got me back up and running. I noticed an error talking about rc_subr > and expat not being current enough, so I upgraded both of those and > recompiled/reinstalled php4-4.3.11, but still no joy. Went back to > 4.3.10 again and everything is working normally. I had apache core dumps after upgrading to php 4.3.11 too. What I did is uninstalling/deleting everything related to php, I mean all extentions, zend optimizer, some libraries... After that I reinstalled apache (probably not needed) and then php. After that everything is working. --=20 Regards, Cezar mailto:cezar@arax.md From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 06:51:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F021216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:51:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from istanbul.enderunix.org (freefall.marmara.edu.tr [193.140.143.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 157A743D7D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ofsen@enderunix.org) Received: (qmail 49257 invoked by uid 89); 3 May 2005 06:51:48 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff 0.8-p3 against viruses and spams (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Message-ID: <20050503065148.49254.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> From: Omer Faruk Sen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:51:48 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: staff@enderunix.org Subject: New Site: sysctl.enderunix.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 06:51:48 -0000 Hi EnderUNIX.ORG has debuted a new site that you can add sysctl's on related OS (Currently FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD and Linux) In sysctl.enderunix.org you can add a new knob and the description of related knob. 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Turkiye'nin ilk FreeBSD kitabi cikti. http://www.acikakademi.com/freebsd.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 07:32:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9948116A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:32:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp3.tin.it (vsmtp3alice.tin.it [212.216.176.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D2B43D7F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:32:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.demartino2@virgilio.it) Received: from ims3e.cp.tin.it (212.216.176.219) by vsmtp3.tin.it (7.0.027) id 427155AD00189D0C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:32:11 +0200 Received: from [192.168.70.227] by ims3e.cp.tin.it with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:32:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:32:10 +0200 Message-ID: <427197A300008993@ims3e.cp.tin.it> From: v.demartino2@virgilio.it To: "FreeBSD" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 193.108.204.21 Subject: backup with tar: Which dirs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 07:32:13 -0000 I have a large usb harddisk with a 60GB freebsd slice that I want to use to backup the FreeBSD 5.4 installation on my laptop once in a while. I think that tar is the right tool for this purpuse. Now I ask: What directories do *** NOT *** require to be backed up? I know this is the case of /tmp but what about /dev? and /var? Ciao Vittorio=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 07:51:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDBF16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:51:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53F9143D82 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:51:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nick-gmane@triantos.com) Received: from unknown (HELO triantos.com) (nicktriantos@sbcglobal.net@66.126.225.216 with login) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2005 07:51:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 71977 invoked by uid 1001); 3 May 2005 07:54:00 -0000 Received: from yoonicks-xp.triantos.com (192.168.0.1) by bsd.triantos.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 00:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42772D80.2000207@triantos.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 00:51:28 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions To: Nick Triantos References: <4262F8D4.2040205@daleco.biz> <42630AB0.2090500@triantos.com> In-Reply-To: <42630AB0.2090500@triantos.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) From: Nick Triantos cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Alviso (Intel i915) chipset networking? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 07:51:10 -0000 Anyone have any ideas? I'm still a bit stumped as to why the stock 5.3 fxp driver does not work with my Sonoma-based laptop. thanks all, -Nick Nick Triantos wrote: > D'oh, you're right, the i915 is the graphics chip (I think, technically, > it's the whole northbridge. Intel is damn unclear about what functions > are in each chip. > > The Win XP drivers list the ethernet as "Intel(R) PRO/100 VE" > PCI ID: vendor = 8086 > dev = 1068 > subsys = 81d0104d > rev = 03 > > The marketing page about this platform is here: > > http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2005/volume09issue01/intro/p05_new_components.htm > > > though it's quite substance-free. :-| > > I'll keep hunting for what could be going wrong, but any further > pointers welcome! > > thanks all, > -Nick > > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> Nick Triantos wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just bought a Sony VGN-S380 laptop, which is based on >>> Intel's Sonoma platform. This includes the Intel i915 >>> chipset. I'm looking for ethernet (not wireless) drivers >>> for it, the fxp driver reluctantly loads, but doesn't >>> recognize that there's a compatible card in my system. >>> >>> >> >> Isn't the i915 the graphics chipset? What is known about >> the NIC portion of this board? What shows up in dmesg? >> >> >> >>> root# kldstat >>> Id Refs Address Size Name >>> ... >>> 4 1 0xc1f23000 8000 if_fxp.ko >>> >>> However, ifconfig does not show an interface to this >>> card (it shows lo0 and fwe0, which I think is the firewire ethernet >>> driver). >>> >> >> It is. >> >>> Any clues? It looks like a fix has been applied to the fxp driver, >>> in time for rel 5.3, that should have added alviso chip support. >>> Maybe I'm missing some other core logic driver, I really don't know. >> >> >> >> >> Hmm, what are you referring to here? >> >> IANAE, so please hang on in case someone (who likely isn't sitting >> at their desk on a Sunday afternoon) knowledgeable comes along; >> however, I see no mention of "i915" either in the manpage for fxp(4), >> nor can I grep "Alviso" or "i915" in any files under /src/sys/pci or >> /src/sys/net. Google doesn't turn up much, either. >> >> The thing is pretty new, so I'd wonder if it's supported. You can >> definitely take a look at the HCL at the website. I'll hope for your >> sake it is --- like I said, IANAE. But, I do wonder... >> >> Kevin Kinsey >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 07:52:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E47C16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:52:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5450D43D53 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:52:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DSs5i-0002wW-6y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:45:14 +0200 Received: from adsl-66-126-225-216.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net ([66.126.225.216]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:45:14 +0200 Received: from nick-gmane by adsl-66-126-225-216.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:45:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Nick Triantos Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 00:51:28 -0700 Lines: 93 Message-ID: <42772D80.2000207@triantos.com> References: <4262F8D4.2040205@daleco.biz> <42630AB0.2090500@triantos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-66-126-225-216.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <42630AB0.2090500@triantos.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Sender: news Subject: Re: Support for Alviso (Intel i915) chipset networking? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 07:52:43 -0000 Anyone have any ideas? I'm still a bit stumped as to why the stock 5.3 fxp driver does not work with my Sonoma-based laptop. thanks all, -Nick Nick Triantos wrote: > D'oh, you're right, the i915 is the graphics chip (I think, technically, > it's the whole northbridge. Intel is damn unclear about what functions > are in each chip. > > The Win XP drivers list the ethernet as "Intel(R) PRO/100 VE" > PCI ID: vendor = 8086 > dev = 1068 > subsys = 81d0104d > rev = 03 > > The marketing page about this platform is here: > > http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2005/volume09issue01/intro/p05_new_components.htm > > > though it's quite substance-free. :-| > > I'll keep hunting for what could be going wrong, but any further > pointers welcome! > > thanks all, > -Nick > > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> Nick Triantos wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just bought a Sony VGN-S380 laptop, which is based on >>> Intel's Sonoma platform. This includes the Intel i915 >>> chipset. I'm looking for ethernet (not wireless) drivers >>> for it, the fxp driver reluctantly loads, but doesn't >>> recognize that there's a compatible card in my system. >>> >>> >> >> Isn't the i915 the graphics chipset? What is known about >> the NIC portion of this board? What shows up in dmesg? >> >> >> >>> root# kldstat >>> Id Refs Address Size Name >>> ... >>> 4 1 0xc1f23000 8000 if_fxp.ko >>> >>> However, ifconfig does not show an interface to this >>> card (it shows lo0 and fwe0, which I think is the firewire ethernet >>> driver). >>> >> >> It is. >> >>> Any clues? It looks like a fix has been applied to the fxp driver, >>> in time for rel 5.3, that should have added alviso chip support. >>> Maybe I'm missing some other core logic driver, I really don't know. >> >> >> >> >> Hmm, what are you referring to here? >> >> IANAE, so please hang on in case someone (who likely isn't sitting >> at their desk on a Sunday afternoon) knowledgeable comes along; >> however, I see no mention of "i915" either in the manpage for fxp(4), >> nor can I grep "Alviso" or "i915" in any files under /src/sys/pci or >> /src/sys/net. Google doesn't turn up much, either. >> >> The thing is pretty new, so I'd wonder if it's supported. You can >> definitely take a look at the HCL at the website. I'll hope for your >> sake it is --- like I said, IANAE. But, I do wonder... >> >> Kevin Kinsey >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 08:13:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537FC16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:13:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ramiel.secspace.de (ramiel.secspace.de [213.61.4.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE6E43D6D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:13:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@ps102.de) Received: from [192.168.17.11] (p54A7E022.dip.t-dialin.net [84.167.224.34]) by ramiel.secspace.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AB511300 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:13:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <427732B9.9000503@ps102.de> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:13:45 +0200 From: Volker Kindermann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050325) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> In-Reply-To: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: creating a local cvsup mirror. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:13:51 -0000 Hi Derrick, > I want to create a local mirror for my internal freebsd systems. I seem > to be confusing articles that are 'how to mirror' and 'how to be a > mirror'. Is there some details/info out there that could be of help? I > would have thought it would be enough to be running ports/net/cvsup- > mirror would be enough on the server, and then the clients here would > use 'cvsup -h my_cvs_server ports-all' but I end up seeing: > May 2 12:40:49 cvs cvsupd[57822]: =3 Unknown collection "ports-all" > > So if someone can clarify/point/whatever, much appreciated. I did exactly the same as you want. I used the following article as a guideline: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/08/30/Big_Scary_Daemons.html -volker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 08:14:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4EC16A4D0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:14:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from royk.itea.ntnu.no (royk.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E84043D86 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:14:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255E066D46 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:14:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:14:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 30456 invoked by uid 1001); 3 May 2005 08:14:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 May 2005 08:14:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:14:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Jim Freeze In-Reply-To: <42768E35.2090706@freescale.com> Message-ID: <20050503100739.Q29995@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <42768E35.2090706@freescale.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How does one bootstrap DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:14:58 -0000 * Jim Freeze [2005-05-02 15:31 -0500] > Suppose I own two domains: abc.com and xyz.org. > I want to host these domains myself and have them provide > the primary and secondary name servers for each other. > > Is this possible? Seems kind of circular. > > In theory I would have ns1.abc.com to map to the IP of abc.com and > ns2.abc.com to map to the IP of xyz.org. > This will give me my primary and secondary name servers. I currently only have one computer on my domain, and it provides dns lookups for itself (and virtual servers)[1] So if you ask the dotorg root name servers "what is the address of the name example.org", it would respond "ns.example.org". So how do does that help you? Enter the world of "glue" records! The root servers carry a copy of the a-records for your ns-records in case your name servers are self-hosted. Your registrar should offer you the option to "register nameserver" or something like that. Then, you could easily enter the name of your newly registered nameserver as the nameserver of your domain. Svein Halvor [1] One could argue that I should have at least two name servers, but why should I need greater redundancy on my name servers, than I have on my other services? If my dns is down, so is my mail, and am in the mercy of the sender to keep retrying anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 09:20:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE0C16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:20:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EDF43D5C for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j439K7pG029526; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j439K548029523; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17015.16965.161664.895667@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 02:20:05 -0700 To: John Pettitt In-Reply-To: <4276EF4B.8000305@cloudview.com> References: <20050503031357.69849.qmail@web51108.mail.yahoo.com> <4276EF4B.8000305@cloudview.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca cc: faisal gillani cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: blocking MAC address with ipfw ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:20:28 -0000 >>>>> On Mon, 02 May 2005 20:26:03 -0700, >>>>> John Pettitt said: > faisal gillani wrote: >> faisal gillani wrote: >> >> how can i block a MAC address with ipfw ? >> can you share the syntax please ? >> >> >> thanks >> > man ipfw reveals ... > { MAC | mac } dst-mac src-mac > Match packets with a given dst-mac and src-mac addresses, > speci- > ... You also need to make sure that the sysctl variable net.link.ether.ipfw is set to 1 to enable layer 2 checks. Sandy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 09:34:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB5616A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:34:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305D343D8E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:198:210:4bff:fe3d:e256]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE4FD36606; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:34:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:33:39 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez To: Danny Pansters Message-Id: <20050503113339.16e4a7f1.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <200505030316.17388.danny@ricin.com> References: <200505030316.17388.danny@ricin.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.9 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__3_May_2005_11_33_39_+0200_VdtXqbfMSTB2b22a" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: QPL vs GPL for QT and derivatives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:34:39 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__3_May_2005_11_33_39_+0200_VdtXqbfMSTB2b22a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 3 May 2005 03:16:17 +0200 Danny Pansters wrote: > QT and derivs have either the GPL (2) or QPL license but we have and use = the=20 > GPL one. =20 > First question: do they differ in distribution, eg x11-gpl versus the qpl= =20 > version? I never tried but I'm sure someone did/knows/asked. No, it's what the developer chooses. If you're going to develop a closed source app like Opera you have you purchase a license. If you intend to write a GPL'd app then you abide by the GPL, and if you want to write a BSDL'd program you abide by the QPL. The source code is the same. > Second question: if they are the same source wise, the QPL seems a lot mo= re=20 > BSD-like: it basically says: can use if not commercial without disclosing= =20 > source, should one want to. In essence any BSD app under QT should live=20 > happily under that, the burden is on the person who would want to use tha= t=20 > code next _and_ it could be GPL'ed at any time if she wants to, with the= =20 > original being left QPL'ed which for us basically means BSD'ed as long as= not=20 > commercial (and it's not like the fees will starve you if you want them). Yes, you cannot take a BSDL'd QT app and close the source without buying a QT license. WRT licensing, if your code is going to be BSD you have no choice but use the QPL version, since the GPL one would force you to release your code under the GPL as well. Another interesting point, and something some GPL advocates fail to understand a lot of times, is that you cannot relicense code you didn't write. If a GPL zealot takes a BSD app and tries to 'save it' by releasing a derivative under the GPL, only his modifications will be under said license, the original (C) and license still remain. > Third: if they are not the same source wise, does anyone have any idea if= it's=20 > a huge leap and perhaps (implied) a regression, in that case it's likely = out=20 > of the question for practical reasons alone. The source code is the same. =20 > Thus I'm wondering, are there technical problems or philosophical ones wi= th=20 > using the QPL rather than GPL with qt? Perhaps it just never came up, or= =20 > people don't find it important. I personally think the QPL is rather fair= and=20 > generous. From a BSDL standpoint it may be preferred over GPL2 (If GPL3 g= ets=20 > as bad as some fear it will never be widespread adapted, we shouldn't wor= ry=20 > about GPL3 IMHO, and neither will it be so bad). What are your opinions/a= dded=20 > knowledge or facts or thoughts on this? I don't see any technical problems, i.e. the QPL version is not crippled in any way. On the philosophical side of things, it's up to you. If you want to release your code under the BSD license you have to abide by the QPL. The GPL2 vs GPL3 is a can of worms I'm not going to open :) > Some may find it nitpicking, and perhaps it is, but I'd still like to hea= r=20 > some opinions on this anyhow. I could get the bare info by (quite a long)= =20 > google probably but I'm also interested in hearing opinions. This is an=20 > opinionated subject anyway, I know.=20 Considering that you've asked in a FreeBSD mailing list I'd expect the BSD license to be favored here. FWIW, there are several QT apps in the ports tree released under the BSD license. Off the top of my head, sysutils/barry, x11-themes/qinx and sysutils/thefish's QT frontend. Surely there are more out there. ISTR some parts of KDE are under the BSDL as well. Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 --Signature=_Tue__3_May_2005_11_33_39_+0200_VdtXqbfMSTB2b22a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCd0V3nLctrNyFFPERAsvDAJ9EXTMgw9rP+VQK8CwcGhVb9GRP3ACePdtW 3DyHi+MVkmTiD9X+povtngE= =r5FH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__3_May_2005_11_33_39_+0200_VdtXqbfMSTB2b22a-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 10:50:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126AD16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:50:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.fearless.nl (veritas.fearless.nl [195.18.92.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A0C43D2F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:50:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@kulgan.fearless.nl) Received: by mx1.fearless.nl (Postfix, from userid 7) id 5FF541978; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:50:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kulgan.fearless.nl (kulgan [195.18.109.250]) by mx1.fearless.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6DC13AB for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:49:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by kulgan.fearless.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B9992D6A26; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:48:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:48:51 +0200 From: Marcel Stangenberger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050503104850.GA31375@fearless.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on raistlin.fearless.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.2 X-Sanitizer: Fearless Networks mail filter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MIMEStream=_0+253930_433690068400_7081057245" Content-Disposition: inline Subject: cannot get apache to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:50:06 -0000 --MIMEStream=_0+253930_433690068400_7081057245 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Hi All, i upgraded my ports tree this weekend and started a rebuild of apache13+modssl and php4 (with extensions) Now i can't get the *(#&!($& thing to work anymore, i keep getting coredumps I thought it could simply be a problem because i used modssl so i switched to apache13 without modssl. I also tried to use php5 instead of 4 but it all does net help. I attached the httpd.conf These are the installed packages : apache-1.3.33_1 The extremely popular Apache http server. 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libgmp-4.1.4 A free library for arbitrary precision arithmetic libiconv-1.9.2_1 A character set conversion library libltdl-1.5.10 System independent dlopen wrapper libmcrypt-2.5.7_1 Multi-cipher cryptographic library (used in PHP) libtool-1.3.5_2 Generic shared library support script (version 1.3) libtool-1.5.10_1 Generic shared library support script (version 1.5) libxml2-2.6.19 XML parser library for GNOME lynx-2.8.5 A non-graphical, text-based World-Wide Web client m4-1.4.3 GNU m4 mod_php5-5.0.4_1,1 PHP Apache Module mysql-client-4.1.11_1 Multithreaded SQL database (client) mysql-server-4.1.11_1 Multithreaded SQL database (server) perl-5.8.6_2 Practical Extraction and Report Language php5-bcmath-5.0.4_1 The bcmath shared extension for php php5-bz2-5.0.4_1 The bz2 shared extension for php php5-calendar-5.0.4_1 The calendar shared extension for php php5-ctype-5.0.4_1 The ctype shared extension for php php5-curl-5.0.4_1 The curl shared extension for php php5-dom-5.0.4_1 The dom shared 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support@fearless.nl DocumentRoot /misc2/sites/chanon/webmail ServerName webmail.chanon.nl ErrorLog /var/log/sites/chanon/webmail-error.log CustomLog /var/log/sites/chanon/webmail-access.log common ServerAdmin support@fearless.nl DocumentRoot /misc2/sites/fearless/webmail ServerName webmail.fearless.nl ErrorLog /var/log/sites/fearless/webmail-error.log CustomLog /var/log/sites/fearless/webmail-access.log common ServerAdmin support@fearless.nl DocumentRoot /misc2/sites/chanon/gallery ServerName gallery.chanon.nl AllowOverride Options FileInfo ErrorLog /var/log/sites/chanon/gallery-error.log CustomLog /var/log/sites/chanon/gallery-access.log common --MIMEStream=_0+253930_433690068400_7081057245-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 12:37:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE8316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:37:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175E243D1D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:37:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=hercules.codepad.net) by ptb-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DRUCK-0007uA-Kg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:02:21 +0100 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:02:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1295756504.20050429155217@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <1295756504.20050429155217@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504291302.17532.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: NFS mounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:37:54 -0000 On Friday 29 April 2005 12:52, Vyacheslav Druzhinin wrote: > Hello freebsd-questions, > > I've added the nfs mounting point on my workstation to the /etc/fstab > like this: nfs.myserver.com:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs 0 0 > > When nfs.myserver.com is reachable everything is ok. But if > nfs.myserver.com is down my workstation can't startup and hangs on > at boot screen until nfs.myserver.com become up. > > Is it possible to skeep the mounting of nfs volume when nfs server > is not reachable? > > > With best regards, [MCP, MCSD] > Vyacheslav mailto:dvg_lab@mail.ru > Origin: <--=<< DVG_Lab >>=--> > The bg option would background the mount and it would try every minute till it works. man mount_nfs explains all. -- /Xian "Kind words can be short and easy to speek but their echos are truly endless" Mother Theresa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:01:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE5E16A4D1 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:01:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8613343D60 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:01:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1597140wra for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 06:01:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=uHg4nQ7NX0HEKE95fgjSAm9lnBylxI3wMCajUGHI51XvqvJGwCswa+sotRihGBAgs7/WY6T7K3hmuTJDfjyEtl3bEZtOadiVVBGrSyNRTi9VVeO6rinn98MlSIfBbeK9hoxxaASkGZ8NbWHZ0yu6agYSnEm6HJAxGCZbBmHSTak= Received: by 10.54.123.8 with SMTP id v8mr1149038wrc; Tue, 03 May 2005 06:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.6 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63c3899e0505030601163f1af7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:01:25 +0100 From: Chris Hodgins To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Installing DCOM98 with Wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:01:35 -0000 Hi, I have the latest Wine and Winetools installed and I am now trying to install DCOM98 with the purpose of installing internet explorer 6 for my web development needs. I have downloaded DCOM98.exe and ie6setup.exe into my /root/.wine/dosdevices/c:/ directory and then to install DCOM98 I do the following: (Note that I have followed advice by this site: http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html) root@paranoia:~/.wine/dosdevices/c:# export WINEDLLOVERRIDES=3D"ole32=3Dn" root@paranoia:~/.wine/dosdevices/c:# wine dcom98 fixme:file:get_default_drive_device auto detection of DOS devices not supported on this platform fixme:ntdll:NtQueryVolumeInformationFile device info not properly supported on this platform err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not avai= lable err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not avai= lable err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not avai= lable fixme:ntdll:NtQueryVolumeInformationFile device info not properly supported on this platform err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not avai= lable err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not avai= lable err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not avai= lable err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not avai= lable Durring this time I get a box asking me if I want to install DCOM98, which I reply yes to. I then have to agree to a EULA, which I do. It then starts copying the files and then it pops a message box up saying "Error loading SETUPAPI.DLL". If I look for this file: root@paranoia:~/.wine/dosdevices/c:# find . | grep -i setupapi.dll ./setupapi.dll.so Any help getting this working would be great. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:14:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8939D16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:14:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4630043D64 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:14:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from magalhj@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 56879 invoked by uid 60001); 3 May 2005 13:14:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20050503131420.56877.qmail@web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.216.238.36] by web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:14:20 ART Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:14:20 -0300 (ART) From: Aguiar Magalhaes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Full backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:14:24 -0000 Hi list, I´m using FreeBSD 5.3 - Release and I´d like to known how to make a "full" backup (image) of my HD scsi. With Linux machines I´ve used Norton Ghost to make a image from HD. If I had a "crash" in my HD, I restore the image in a few minutes. How can I to proceed in FreeBSD ? Aguiar Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:17:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388DE16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:17:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sockeye.firmanix.com (sockeye.firmanix.com [216.127.139.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C932643D31 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:17:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by sockeye.firmanix.com with local (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DSxGj-0005sN-0j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:16:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:16:57 -0400 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050503131656.GA22565@sockeye.firmanix.com> References: <20050503131420.56877.qmail@web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050503131420.56877.qmail@web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Full backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:17:02 -0000 On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:14:20AM -0300, Aguiar Magalhaes wrote: > Hi list, > > I?m using FreeBSD 5.3 - Release and I?d like to known > how to make a "full" backup (image) of my HD scsi. > > With Linux machines I?ve used Norton Ghost to make a > image from HD. If I had a "crash" in my HD, I restore > the image in a few minutes. > > How can I to proceed in FreeBSD ? >From the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:25:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACF816A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:25:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCB643D48 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:25:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])510A618002A6 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:24:57 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 3 May 2005 13:24:57 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 39B324BEAD; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:24:57 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Tue, 03 May 2005 08:24:56 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org, current-users@netbsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:24:56 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050503132457.39B324BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:25:02 -0000 Hello! In an effort to balance the awareness and usage of free and open source among the world's population, I am trying to obtain as many open source masterplans (in PDF) as possible. I plan to have them translated, revised and compiled into one masterplan above all masterplans which I can then distribute to people who would need it more than others, such as poor countries, etc. These can either originate from: 1. Governments 2. Universities and R&D agencies 3. Private Institutions Do you have any? Do you know how to obtain one from your country? Please send them to me, and thank you for listening! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:26:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7936216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:26:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-6a.inet.it (fe-6a.inet.it [213.92.5.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C6843D7D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:26:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberto@orson.it) Received: from guardian.inet.it [::ffff:194.185.129.11] by fe-6a.inet.it via I-SMTP-5.2.3-520 id ::ffff:194.185.129.11+tDjwW079aq; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:26:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:26:31 +0200 From: "Roberto [khazad-dum]" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050503152631.28f8aa66@guardian.inet.it> In-Reply-To: <20050503131420.56877.qmail@web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050503131420.56877.qmail@web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; amd64-portbld-freebsd5.4) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Full backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:26:39 -0000 Begin replayed message: On Tue, 3 May 2005 10:14:20 -0300 (ART) Aguiar Magalhaes wrote: >With Linux machines I=B4ve used Norton Ghost to make a >image from HD. If I had a "crash" in my HD, I restore >the image in a few minutes. If you have 2 pair of disks, try gmirror (raid-1 software) >How can I to proceed in FreeBSD ? How to establish a RAID-1 for the system partitions http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ Or a fast way: http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/24/freebsd-howto-gmirror-system/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:29:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C45A16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:29:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.io.com (smtp.io.com [209.198.128.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9910943D58 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:29:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eighner@io.com) Received: from io.com (206-224-83-97-dialup.io.com [206.224.83.97]) by smtp.io.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with SMTP id j43DTRYc059952 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:29:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from eighner@io.com) Received: by io.com (nbSMTP-0.98) for uid 1001 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:28:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:28:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20050503082805.V20517@goodwill.io.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/865/Mon May 2 18:16:49 2005 on smtp.io.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: HP PSC 1350 and hpoj and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:29:34 -0000 I am trying to enable the scanning functions on an HP PSC 1350 all-in-one printer. The print functions work with hpijs/cups/foomatic-filters. I have installed hpoj, but ptal-init cannot find the scanner. The problem seems to be that the scan functions get improperly attached at boot time. This is my system (uname -a output) FreeBSD goodwill.io.com 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #5:\ Mon Apr 25 09:39:03 CDT 2005\ toor@goodwill.io.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 The kernel is generic with USB 2.0 enabled These appear to be the relevant parts of dmesg usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ulpt0: hp psc 1300 series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 255/204 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode ### printer function found umass0: hp psc 1300 series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 ### evidently umass identifies the scanner functions as a mass storage ### device (which is the right answer for the photo card when in the ### camera, but evidently is not correct for the psc. da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 ### attached as a mass storage device at da0, umass continues to ### get wrong answers for the psc 1350 Any help would be appreciated. -- Lars Eighner eighner@io.com http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:39:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9B216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:39:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA4E43D6D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:39:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050503133937.FGFM4191.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:39:37 -0400 From: To: "Aguiar Magalhaes" , Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:39:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050503131420.56877.qmail@web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Full backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:39:43 -0000 I use Norton Ghost on my FreeBSD systems. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Aguiar Magalhaes Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:14 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Full backup Hi list, I´m using FreeBSD 5.3 - Release and I´d like to known how to make a "full" backup (image) of my HD scsi. With Linux machines I´ve used Norton Ghost to make a image from HD. If I had a "crash" in my HD, I restore the image in a few minutes. How can I to proceed in FreeBSD ? Aguiar Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 13:54:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08FE16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:54:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizm0.org (gizm0.org [212.114.209.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4325D43D80 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:54:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@gizm0.org) Received: from [10.0.0.122] (unknown [10.0.0.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gizm0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90EAA10196; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:53:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4277827E.8080005@gizm0.org> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:54:06 +0200 From: Steven Enderle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050203 X-Accept-Language: de-de, de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bob@a1poweruser.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Aguiar Magalhaes cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Full backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:54:04 -0000 To hear that from someone with email address @a1poweruser.com makes me ill have a nice day Steven -- ++ message delivered by gizm0.org ++ free webmail - imap, pop3, ssl secured bob@a1poweruser.com wrote: >I use Norton Ghost on my FreeBSD systems. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Aguiar >Magalhaes >Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:14 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Full backup > > >Hi list, > >I´m using FreeBSD 5.3 - Release and I´d like to known >how to make a "full" backup (image) of my HD scsi. > >With Linux machines I´ve used Norton Ghost to make a >image from HD. If I had a "crash" in my HD, I restore >the image in a few minutes. > >How can I to proceed in FreeBSD ? > >Aguiar > > > > > >Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. >Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 14:19:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C535216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:19:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E335043D1D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:19:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@stortsett.se) Received: from kalle.stortsett.local (81.230.166.90) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.1.026.7) id 42650A3B003A2AEB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:19:38 +0200 Received: from www.susie.mine.nu (localhost.stortsett.local [127.0.0.1]) by kalle.stortsett.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872C864EF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 131.116.254.199 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by www.susie.mine.nu with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <22375.131.116.254.199.1115129978.squirrel@www.susie.mine.nu> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:19:38 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per B" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: VPN through a FreeBSD firewall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 14:19:45 -0000 Hello all! I have a small network at home which I am upgrading speedwise, i.e. I am about to go from 8 Mbit to 24 Mbit (ADSL2) on the WAN side. I intend then to use my FreeBSD 5.3 box as a firewall/NAT/proxy server. Two questions: First, the big one: I sometimes work from home. Then I connect to the office from my XP laptop via a VPN tunnel (today I have a ZyXEL G2000 as fw/nat/router). So, if I put the FreeBSD box in place of the ZyXEL and th= e FreeBSD does ipfw/nat, will it still work with the VPN stuff? N.B., the FreeBSD box will not do the VPN stuff, just pass it through! I am using the Cisco client on the laptop if that matters. Like this: laptop with vpn -> FreeBSD with two network interfaces -> ADSL modem -> N= ET Anyone knows what happens if I put the ZyXEL as a wireless router between the laptop and FreeBSD; would VPN work then? VPN passes through the ZyXEL today without problem but can it pass through the two boxes? Second question: someone told me that the ZyXEL cannot handle 24 Mbit, therefor I want to use the FreeBSD box instead. Can FreeBSD handle 24Mbit from the ADSL modem? I think it can, anyone against? ;-) TIA! --=20 Per Berger /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.stortsett.se/ X No Word docs in e-mail http://hav.just.nu/ / \ Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 14:28:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A57116A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:28:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brugere.aub.dk (mail.aub.dk [195.24.1.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECC743D8E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmp.lists@alvorlig.dk) Received: by brugere.aub.dk (Postfix, from userid 1693) id 9502BC465; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:28:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.4.50] (jmp.aub.dk [10.1.4.50]) by brugere.aub.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1782C448; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:28:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42778A77.8070100@alvorlig.dk> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:28:07 +0200 From: "J. Martin Petersen" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050325) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per B References: <22375.131.116.254.199.1115129978.squirrel@www.susie.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <22375.131.116.254.199.1115129978.squirrel@www.susie.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VPN through a FreeBSD firewall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 14:28:25 -0000 Per B wrote: > Second question: someone told me that the ZyXEL cannot handle 24 Mbit, > therefor I want to use the FreeBSD box instead. Can FreeBSD handle 24Mbit > from the ADSL modem? I think it can, anyone against? ;-) We're using a FreeBSD 5.3 machine with pf and AltQ as our firewall/gateway/nat-solution for our 26 MBit link. We have about 1000 users, and it works flawlessly, but I guess it depends on what kind of hardware you're using. Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 14:54:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AB016A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:54:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB1843D5A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:54:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from test@example.com) Received: from mercury (01-107.143.popsite.net [66.248.81.107]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j43EsFB7029931; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from test@example.com) From: "J.C. Roberts" To: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 07:53:53 -0700 Organization: None Message-ID: References: <20050503132457.39B324BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050503132457.39B324BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: current-users@netbsd.org cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: /dev/nul@smtp2.abac.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 14:54:22 -0000 On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:24:56 -0500, "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" wrote: >Hello! > >In an effort to balance the awareness and usage of free and open >source among the world's population, I am trying to obtain as many >open source masterplans (in PDF) as possible. I plan to have them >translated, revised and compiled into one masterplan above all >masterplans which I can then distribute to people who would need >it more than others, such as poor countries, etc. > >These can either originate from: > >1. Governments >2. Universities and R&D agencies >3. Private Institutions > >Do you have any? >Do you know how to obtain one from your country? > >Please send them to me, >and thank you for listening! > > >Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf What qualifications do you have that will convince us to believe you are able to just understand a single master plan, let alone properly combine all of them? Perhaps posting your IQ score would be sufficient. There is a free test available here: http://www.iqtestforfree.com Good Luck! JCR From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:06:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F03316A4D0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:06:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636E143D80 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:06:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])EAC32180049D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:06:35 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 3 May 2005 15:06:35 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BEA7A4BEAE; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:06:32 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:06:32 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:06:32 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050503150632.BEA7A4BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:06:50 -0000 J.C. Roberts, Where did this come from? > What qualifications do you have that will convince us to believe you > are able to just understand a single master plan, let alone properly > combine all of them? Perhaps posting your IQ score would be > sufficient. You seem to be against the less fortunate. Maybe you are a jew? The one who men threw? Go back to the zoo and start your argue. Only to find out. Your head deserves my jackscrew. Followed by some voodoo. Ask your mom for the blood-wipe tissue. No more IQ. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:11:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00FC16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from recife.ipadnet.com.br (recife.ipadnet.com.br [200.249.204.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A239343D3F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:11:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from marioLobo ([200.249.204.142]) by recife.ipadnet.com.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j43FN1Pg022160 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:23:01 -0300 From: mario.lobo@ipad.com.br Organization: IPAD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:18:25 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42776C11.19760.5BF2986@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20050503132457.39B324BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mario.lobo@ipad.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:11:46 -0000 //| //|| // | // || -//--//---|| ARIO LOBO // // || --------------------------------- mario.lobo@ipad.com.br http://www.ipad.com.br What is your interest? Who do you work for? A lot of people in poor and de= veloping countries are already aware that they should move towards open source, and they themselv= es keep up with those master plans everyday, despite of microsoft=B4s expensive "gifts" and stro= ng efforts to keep those countries away from FS. How do we know you=B4re not working for Mr. Bill ? -- //| //|| // | // || -//--//---|| ARIO LOBO // // || --------------------------------- mario.lobo@ipad.com.br http://www.ipad.com.br On 3 May 2005 at 8:24, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > Hello! > > In an effort to balance the awareness and usage of free and open > source among the world's population, I am trying to obtain as many > open source masterplans (in PDF) as possible. I plan to have them > translated, revised and compiled into one masterplan above all > masterplans which I can then distribute to people who would need > it more than others, such as poor countries, etc. > > These can either originate from: > > 1. Governments > 2. Universities and R&D agencies > 3. Private Institutions > > Do you have any? > Do you know how to obtain one from your country? > > Please send them to me, > and thank you for listening! > > -- > > Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf > > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:33:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFB316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:33:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from de01egw02.freescale.net (de01egw02.freescale.net [192.88.165.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2635443D67 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jim.Freeze@freescale.com) Received: from de01smr01.am.mot.com (de01smr01.freescale.net [10.208.0.31]) j43FZMj0023445 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:35:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.80.61.36] (opera.am.freescale.net [10.80.61.36]) by de01smr01.am.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j43FaSSM018723 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:36:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427799B2.4030704@freescale.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:33:06 -0500 From: Jim Freeze User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040920 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <42768E35.2090706@freescale.com> <20050503100739.Q29995@maren.thelosingend.net> In-Reply-To: <20050503100739.Q29995@maren.thelosingend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How does one bootstrap DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:33:15 -0000 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > <>[snippage] > <>I currently only have one computer on my domain, and it provides dns > lookups for itself (and virtual servers)[1] > > [snippage] > <>[1] One could argue that I should have at least two name servers, > but why > should I need greater redundancy on my name servers, than I have on my > other services? If my dns is down, so is my mail, and am in the mercy of > the sender to keep retrying anyway. Yes, exactly. Is it permissable for ns1 and ns2 to point to the same IP address? Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:47:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB6B16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:47:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558C343D67 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:47:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a064.otenet.gr [212.205.215.64]) j43FkLbE013288; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:46:24 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j43FlTQn016842; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:47:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j43FM8MY004383; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:22:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 18:22:08 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Fafa Diliha Romanova , estover@nativenerds.com Message-ID: <20050503152207.GD4108@gothmog.gr> References: <20050501195710.D2D424BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050501195710.D2D424BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:47:59 -0000 On 2005-05-01 14:57, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >"Ed Stover" wrote: >>>> First off, what have you done with that machine before it stopped >>>> working? when you try to start named does it produce any error >>>> messages? >> >> You are not being helpful. lol, try this >> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/bind start >> ps -ax |grep named >> Now is there a named running? > > Hehe :) Yeah named is running. > > /etc/rc.d/named start && ps -ax | grep named: > > 247 ?? Ss 0:00.79 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/run/log -s > 261 ?? Ss 0:37.36 /usr/sbin/named -u bind -t /var/named Please do __NOT__ post your reply on top of a long quoted part of the original. Both top-posting and failing to trim quoted material to the absolutely minimum necessary size are considered "bad netiquette" on this list. Having said that, you can check your /var/log/messages for interesting bits sent there by the named process as it starts: # tail -f /var/log/messages | grep named Then, restart your named and watch for interesting output. For extra bonus points, you can add a special "named" entry in your /etc/syslog.conf file: !named *.* /var/log/named.log which will direct only the messages from named to a special log file. Remember to restart syslogd after you add this to syslog.conf and then use tail -f on the named.log file to watch for named output. Then, after having all the necessary information from a named reload, you may have more hints and/or clues about what's wrong. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:49:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E3E16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:49:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BA443D66 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])A2A7E180020B for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:49:07 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 3 May 2005 15:49:07 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7AC634BEAF; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:49:07 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org, current-users@netbsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:49:07 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050503154907.7AC634BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:49:13 -0000 Mario, Nice ASCII logo. I work for poor people through UNDP. I am not a government nor Microsoft employee. (Ask Bill) > A lot of people in poor and developing countries are already > aware that they should move towards open source, and they=20 > themselves keep up with those master plans everyday ... That is true. They know they should move. But they do not really know how. I have seen the quality of many 3rd world country masterplans. They are poorly presented; their language and formatting is bad; and most of them aren't based on facts. Western masterplans are more decent and sustainable. If they were to be adapted to 3rd world conditions, perhaps the situation would progress angular, and 3rd world people wouldn't have to struggle to keep up with their masterplans. Thank you for replying, Mario. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:52:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCC116A4DA for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:52:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14F843D45 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:52:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])C097E180036B for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:52:34 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 3 May 2005 15:52:34 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A38CD4BEAF; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:52:34 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:52:34 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , estover@nativenerds.com Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:52:34 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050503155234.A38CD4BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My BIND is tWisted!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:52:39 -0000 > Please do __NOT__ post your reply on top of a long quoted part of the > original. Both top-posting and failing to trim quoted material to the > absolutely minimum necessary size are considered "bad netiquette" on > this list. Sorry! > Having said that, you can check your /var/log/messages for interesting > bits sent there by the named process as it starts: >=20 > # tail -f /var/log/messages | grep named >=20 > Then, restart your named and watch for interesting output. >=20 > For extra bonus points, you can add a special "named" entry in your > /etc/syslog.conf file: >=20 > !named > *.* /var/log/named.log >=20 > which will direct only the messages from named to a special log file. > Remember to restart syslogd after you add this to syslog.conf and then > use tail -f on the named.log file to watch for named output. >=20 > Then, after having all the necessary information from a named reload, > you may have more hints and/or clues about what's wrong. There has never been anything interesting in /var/log, I am afraid. My world and kernel are making to solve this problem, though :) http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-May/085943.html -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:53:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B98216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:53:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8B043D4C for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:53:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j43Frdbt073741; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:53:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 047FA6366; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:53:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:53:39 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20050503155338.GA56956@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD , v.demartino2@virgilio.it References: <427197A300008993@ims3e.cp.tin.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427197A300008993@ims3e.cp.tin.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: v.demartino2@virgilio.it Subject: Re: backup with tar: Which dirs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:53:46 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 09:32:10AM +0200, v.demartino2@virgilio.it wrote: > I have a large usb harddisk with a 60GB freebsd slice that I want to use > to backup the FreeBSD 5.4 installation on my laptop once in a while. > I think that tar is the right tool for this purpuse. You could also use dump, combined with bzip2. If you want to use tar, use gtar with the --one-file-system option. > Now I ask: > What directories do *** NOT *** require to be backed up? > I know this is the case of /tmp=20 > but what about /dev? and /var? The /dev/ directory is filled automagically. You don't have to back it up. I would make a backup of /var, since things like your ports database and mail queue reside there. In short; back up /, /usr and /var, and /home if you have that on a seperate slice. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCd56CEnfvsMMhpyURAmVMAJ4zriPiyAuQXZhBdbOCM1w2JZF9MwCfdKgp iGDGmBpzVzKBTwJ2DBopcLA= =UFAy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:57:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBBC16A4D0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:57:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from candid.macfinity.net (mail.macfinity.net [62.141.41.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCFD43D7F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:57:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timo.schoeler@macfinity.net) Received: from [192.168.100.121] (dsl-084-059-032-134.arcor-ip.net [84.59.32.134]) by candid.macfinity.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125671414AD; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:57:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42779F4E.6020806@macfinity.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:57:02 +0200 From: Timo Schoeler Organization: //macfinity User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050503154907.7AC634BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050503154907.7AC634BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:57:14 -0000 please stop posting this! Nice ASCII logo. > > I work for poor people through UNDP. one more proof that there i) are wrong people in the wrong places and ii) much money is being wasted. > I am not a government nor Microsoft employee. shouldn't make a difference as money rules the world (*cough*)... so your employer is meaningless (even if it's any UN subsidiary -- the UN is meaningless, please look at the US spreading war all over the world, the UN doing nothing against it. and no, it's not the 'terror' they're fighting -- the real terror comes from the US -- it's the fight for 'their oil'... bastards)! > > (Ask Bill) > > >>A lot of people in poor and developing countries are already >>aware that they should move towards open source, and they >>themselves keep up with those master plans everyday ... > > > That is true. > > They know they should move. But they do not really know how. > I have seen the quality of many 3rd world country masterplans. > They are poorly presented; their language and formatting is > bad; and most of them aren't based on facts. > > Western masterplans are more decent and sustainable. If they > were to be adapted to 3rd world conditions, perhaps the > situation would progress angular, and 3rd world people > wouldn't have to struggle to keep up with their masterplans. > blabla. it's not the lame presentation of even lamer masterplans that makes hundreds of thousands of people in the 3rd world die of hunger and deseases every month, no, it's that fucking capitalism! you are in one of many key positions to change this. do something! and please stop driveling! > > -- > > Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf cheers, timo (communist, vegetarian, open source dev, blablabla) -- Timo Schoeler | http://macfinity.net/~tis | timo.schoeler@macfinity.net //macfinity -- finest IT services | http://macfinity.net Key fingerprint = F844 51BE C22C F6BD 1196 90B2 EF68 C851 6E12 2D8A There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:58:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E376D16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:58:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC20B43D46 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:58:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j43G9X9D017875 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:09:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA31259 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:58:57 +0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200505031558.TAA31259@mccme.ru> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:37:56 +0400 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050503153756.GA25347@mccme.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow Resent-From: emin@mccme.ru Resent-Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:58:57 +0400 Resent-To: questions@freebsd.org X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=0.889 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID,SPF_HELO_PASS Subject: sound absent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:58:50 -0000 Hello people! I'm using HP motherboard with integrated audio chipset, and I made statically kernel. So, I wrote in my kernel configuration: device sound device snd_ich and NO_MODULES=yes in /etc/make.conf. Then I make kernel and reboot. Now I see following: $ dmesg | grep pcm0 pcm0: port 0xd400-0xd43f,0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfe77b400-0xfe77b4ff,0xfe77b800-0xfe77b9ff irq 17 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: pcm0: port 0xd400-0xd43f,0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfe77b400-0xfe77b4ff,0xfe77b800-0xfe77b9ff irq 17 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: I have not idea about why this information present in dmesg two times... But it's not important, perhaps. $ pciconf -lv ... pcm0@pci0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x218114a4 chip=0x24d58086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller' class = multimedia subclass = audio ... and finally: $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xfe77b800, 0xfe77b400 irq 17 bufsz 16384 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex default) Great! It seemes to all be okay! But there are silenice in my headphones :( Have you any idea? -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:01:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570E616A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:01:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A400043D45 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (estartu@localhost.ze.tu-muenchen.de [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43G1Hdv091964; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:01:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j43G1HBw091963; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:01:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 18:01:17 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050503160116.GA91906@augusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: createing users homedir on first login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:01:22 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have set up some FreeBSD 5 Workstations and configured nss to get the=20 accounts from ldap. Pam is also set up to work with ldap. Everything so=20 far is runningnperfectly smooth. The problem is the workstations don`t have a shared filesystem. Each user should have an seperate homedir on every=20 workstation.=20 I tried to use pam_exec to create the homedir on the first login. But it seams there is now way of knowing who is logging. I've even tried=20 to use pw usershow -a to get all users and create all homedirs but=20 pw usershow -a don't report any users when started from a shellscript=20 called by the pam_exec module.=20 Anyone successfully implemented a system to create homedirs on the fly.=20 bye Estartu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | E-Mail: estartu@augusta.de | auf Anfrage/ Germany | | on request --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: cN7yZFC7LD6s85hl8/UGsI+fSuJN/k1h iQCVAwUBQnegTAzx22nOTJQRAQGasAQAoxO3ns0CFkB5Kk96C8BSB2zXQEneuVWA qgvscPm6p/bFCdn2Og6ymSIkDsTX/3hxKUybW3sDAvjPQs8Bfpf1x8HM3kkCZJMX pJO4Ko46UHEFmH3QFRophnnUesx5mXsYXnYPz0tbN/HqY/MHNY8xK5scNg924CVC PZbyUj3vRtU= =+tIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:03:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFDF16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:03:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A898D43D66 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j43GDQ9P018204 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:14:03 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA27215 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:37:56 +0400 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:37:56 +0400 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050503153756.GA25347@mccme.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=0.044 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS Subject: sound absent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:03:19 -0000 Hello people! I'm using HP motherboard with integrated audio chipset, and I made statically kernel. So, I wrote in my kernel configuration: device sound device snd_ich and NO_MODULES=yes in /etc/make.conf. Then I make kernel and reboot. Now I see following: $ dmesg | grep pcm0 pcm0: port 0xd400-0xd43f,0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfe77b400-0xfe77b4ff,0xfe77b800-0xfe77b9ff irq 17 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: pcm0: port 0xd400-0xd43f,0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfe77b400-0xfe77b4ff,0xfe77b800-0xfe77b9ff irq 17 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: I have not idea about why this information present in dmesg two times... But it's not important, perhaps. $ pciconf -lv ... pcm0@pci0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x218114a4 chip=0x24d58086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller' class = multimedia subclass = audio ... and finally: $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xfe77b800, 0xfe77b400 irq 17 bufsz 16384 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex default) Great! It seemes to all be okay! But there are silenice in my headphones :( Have you any idea? -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:05:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7BE16A4D0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:05:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01B143D77 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:05:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])C14191800233 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:05:15 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 3 May 2005 16:05:15 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 66AE24BEAE; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:05:15 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:05:14 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Timo Schoeler" Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:05:14 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050503160515.66AE24BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:05:21 -0000 Timo, > please stop posting this! Get your weak wood out of my wheels! I fight poverty to avoid ending up like you. > > I work for poor people through UNDP. >=20 > one more proof that there i) are wrong people in the wrong places and > ii) much money is being wasted. There are good people in the UNDP. > it's not the lame presentation of even lamer masterplans that makes > hundreds of thousands of people in the 3rd world die of hunger and > deseases every month, no, it's that fucking capitalism! Masterplans don't kill people! Masterplans help them survive! > you are in one of many key positions to change this. do something! and > please stop driveling! Stop trolling. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:05:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED4416A4EB for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:05:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D5A43D83 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:05:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 12152 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 16:05:22 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 May 2005 16:05:22 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4732156; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" References: <42751E3C.8060103@schmittnet.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 03 May 2005 12:05:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <42751E3C.8060103@schmittnet.com> Message-ID: <44hdhknvlr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Domain Name in postfix on a Local Network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:05:27 -0000 "Bill Schmitt (SW)" writes: > I've been struggling through setting up a mail server on my home > network, with the goal to be running an imap server. As I've indicated > on some other related postings I've made, networking is probably my > weakest side and I need a little help. > > I have no real internet name for the box, which I call "schfrbsd" > (named with a dot at the end in rc.conf hostname="schfrbsd."). Using > that name, I've managed to get Samba working and a local web server, > but when I come to mail, I get confused. The network is made up of a > bunch of XP Home Machines, the FreeBSD 4.9 machine, and a Netgear > Router/Firewall that also runs DHCP. I don't think it's relevant here, > but the workgroup name I use for Samba and Windows Peer Networking is > "olympia". The router is called schrout, if that helps. If the router can do DNS as well as DHCP, that will help you out a lot. > When I come to configuring postfix, there are entries for myhostname > and mydomain. I believe myhostname should be schbsd. What do I use for > mydomain? Where should I be naming the domain? "myhostname" will default to whatever hostname(1) says. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:08:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3022716A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:08:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009E743D66 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 18301 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 16:08:41 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 May 2005 16:08:41 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C594856; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh References: <4c90b772050502234549589928@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 03 May 2005 12:08:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4c90b772050502234549589928@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <444qdknvg7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 NVIDIA-1.0.7174 GLX extension problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:08:43 -0000 Soheil Hassas Yeganeh writes: > I have problem using NVIDIA-1.0.7174. > It failed to load GLX. What i can do for this? > > This is a warnings and errors of my X.org log > > (WW) NV(0): Option "CursorShadow" is not used > (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) > I have attached the complete X.org log It turns out that you have not. My guess is that you need to use the nvidia driver (available from ports) instead of the nv one that comes with X.org. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:11:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627B616A4D2 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:11:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from radius.jellico.com (mail.jellico.com [63.162.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8028243D7D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:10:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lisa@jellico.com) Received: from lisac (lisa.jellico.com [63.162.128.213]) by radius.jellico.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j43GBE7w056264; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.11.2]); Tue, 03 May 2005 12:10:22 -0400 Message-ID: <007301c54ffa$9bfb1970$d580a23f@lisac> From: "Lisa Casey" To: References: <001101c54f74$3eef54c0$14d71840@lisakc> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:10:17 -0400 Organization: Netlink 2000, Inc. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] Installing on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:11:00 -0000 Hi, Ok but this basically sucks. I'm sure I should be installing from ports. But I don't seem to be able to do that, and I do know how to install source files. When I try to do a pkg_add to install the mimedefang port that I've downloaded from freebsd.org, I get this: radius# pkg_add -r mimedefang.tar.gz Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4 -stable/Latest/mimedefang.tar.gz.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch `ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages- 4-stable/Latest/mimedefang.tar.gz.tgz' by URL So I moved the tarball over to /usr/ports/distfiles, extracted it and ran make. That resulted in: radius# more distinfo MD5 (mimedefang-2.51.tar.gz) = 9c4df4ec349e414f893c940ff563bea5 SIZE (mimedefang-2.51.tar.gz) = 302006 radius# make "Makefile", line 53: Malformed conditional (${PERL_LEVEL} < 500601) "Makefile", line 53: Need an operator "Makefile", line 55: if-less endif "Makefile", line 55: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue At this rate it'll be forever before I get mimedefang installed and in the meantime I have customers upset because they are receiving unacceptable levels of spam. Surely someone can help me out with installing mimedefang from source and getting this sendmail stuff I have questions about working. Of course, if someone wants to tell me what I'm doing wrong in trying to install this as a package and howe to do it right, that would be OK too :-) I'm going to CC this to the FreeBSD list in case someone on that list might be able to help. Thanks, Lisa Casey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ADNET Ghislain" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] Installing on FreeBSD > > >> Lisa Casey wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I need to install Mimedefang on a FreeBSD 4.6 system as the Redhat >> > system I was running my mail server on crashed. I've upgraded perl to >> > 5.8.6 (it was 5.001 or something like that) and installed the >> > necessary perl modules for mimedefang. I have a couple of questions >> > though about installing on FreeBSD (this is different from the way my >> > Red Hat system was). >> > >> > I have Sendmail 8.13 on here. According to the Mimedefang instructions >> > I need to make sure I have a queue runner. Does anyone know if >> > Sendmail 8.13 will do this automatically? In the mimedefang >> > instructions I was reading it said to do this by adding sendmail -Ac >> > -qp5m to the init script for Sendmail. On my Red Hat system this was >> > in /etc/init.d. I can't find where I should specify this on FreeBSD. >> > >> > When I installed my radius server on this FreeBSD system, I put the >> > init script for it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (there's no sendmail script >> > therre). Is this where I should put my mimedefang init script? How >> > will I know if this stops & starts mimedefang at the right times? I >> > believe mimedefang should start up after Sendmail does and should be >> > stopped before Sendmail is. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Lisa Casey >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi lisa, >> >> You should use the port system to install it on freeBSD, think of it >> like the rpm for redhat... :) >> >> regards, >> Ghislain. >> >> -- >> >> AQUEOS - Service Informatique >> 1, Rue Albert Einstein >> 77420 Champs sur marne >> >> Service technique : support@aqueos.com >> Service commercial : commercial@aqueos.com >> Tel : 06.63.79.27.38 / 01.64.02.99.37 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.canit.ca >> MIMEDefang mailing list >> MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com >> http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 5/2/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 5/2/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:31:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D298216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:31:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7579C43D45 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:31:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id j43GVBe4011619; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:31:12 +0300 Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 3 May 05 19:31:13 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 3 May 05 19:31:07 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (192.168.1.2) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 3 May 05 19:31:00 +0300 Message-ID: <4277A747.3060805@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:31:03 +0300 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lisa Casey References: <001101c54f74$3eef54c0$14d71840@lisakc> <007301c54ffa$9bfb1970$d580a23f@lisac> In-Reply-To: <007301c54ffa$9bfb1970$d580a23f@lisac> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] Installing on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:31:20 -0000 Lisa Casey wrote: > Ok but this basically sucks. I'm sure I should be installing from ports= =2E=20 Me too. > But I don't seem to be able to do that, and I do know how to install=20 > source files. >=20 > When I try to do a pkg_add to install the mimedefang port that I've=20 > downloaded from freebsd.org, I get this: pkg_add installs package (a pre-compiled binary), not port. > radius# pkg_add -r mimedefang.tar.gz > Error: FTP Unable to get=20 > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4 > -stable/Latest/mimedefang.tar.gz.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not = > found, no > access) > pkg_add: unable to fetch=20 > `ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages- > 4-stable/Latest/mimedefang.tar.gz.tgz' by URL I have rarely, if ever at all, used pkg_add (I prefer ports), but I=20 don't think that using argument 'mimedefang.tar.gz' is correct. > So I moved the tarball over to /usr/ports/distfiles, extracted it and=20 > ran make.=20 If you have decided to install from source tarball, you should perform=20 the installation outside the ports tree. That resulted in: >=20 > radius# more distinfo > MD5 (mimedefang-2.51.tar.gz) =3D 9c4df4ec349e414f893c940ff563bea5 > SIZE (mimedefang-2.51.tar.gz) =3D 302006 > radius# make > "Makefile", line 53: Malformed conditional (${PERL_LEVEL} < 500601) > "Makefile", line 53: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 55: if-less endif > "Makefile", line 55: Need an operator > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue You are probably trying to run BSD make against a GNU makefile. If you=20 really want to install from source tarball, use gmake. > At this rate it'll be forever before I get mimedefang installed and in = > the meantime I have customers upset because they are receiving=20 > unacceptable levels of spam. Surely someone can help me out with=20 > installing mimedefang from source=20 At this stage I'd still recommend using ports. Just read 'man ports', as = well as Section 4.5 of the Handbook, to get your confusion cleared up :-)= --=20 Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- |arvutiv=F5rgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| |Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | ----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:37:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A00316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:37:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from candid.macfinity.net (mail.macfinity.net [62.141.41.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C5043D64 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:37:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timo.schoeler@macfinity.net) Received: from [192.168.100.121] (dsl-084-059-032-134.arcor-ip.net [84.59.32.134]) by candid.macfinity.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE411414B5; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4277A8AD.3090405@macfinity.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:37:01 +0200 From: Timo Schoeler Organization: //macfinity User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050503160515.66AE24BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050503160515.66AE24BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:37:12 -0000 LAW (Lawyers Are Wimps) >>please stop posting this! > > > Get your weak wood out of my wheels! > I fight poverty to avoid ending up like you. > > >>>I work for poor people through UNDP. >> >>one more proof that there i) are wrong people in the wrong places and >>ii) much money is being wasted. > > > There are good people in the UNDP. > > >>it's not the lame presentation of even lamer masterplans that makes >>hundreds of thousands of people in the 3rd world die of hunger and >>deseases every month, no, it's that fucking capitalism! > > > Masterplans don't kill people! > Masterplans help them survive! > > >>you are in one of many key positions to change this. do something! and >>please stop driveling! > > > Stop trolling. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:50:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB0F16A4D2 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:50:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta06.sannet.ne.jp (mta06.sannet.ne.jp [134.180.49.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCDC43D7E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:50:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel_rees@sannet.ne.jp) Received: from sannet.ne.jp (eaa1-ppp1020.west.sannet.ne.jp [210.157.216.226]) by mta06.sannet.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A2D27B8; Wed, 4 May 2005 01:50:24 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 01:50:23 +0900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) To: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" From: Joel Rees In-Reply-To: <20050503160515.66AE24BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-Id: <71601E97-BBF3-11D9-80B6-0030654B1810@sannet.ne.jp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:50:35 -0000 Fafa Hafiz, Pardon the top post, but master plans are for totalitarian governments and bureaucracies. Their sole purpose is to assist in perpetuating established institutions. (No institution is going to plan it's own demise. Oh, and how well they serve their purpose is a subject of some debate.) Maybe what you should be asking for is examples of business plans, although those are all too often used by the powers that be to keep small businesses from growing and threatening the status quo. Informal operating policies and such might also be of interest. On 2005.5.4, at 01:05 AM, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > Timo, > >> please stop posting this! > > Get your weak wood out of my wheels! > I fight poverty to avoid ending up like you. > >>> I work for poor people through UNDP. >> >> one more proof that there i) are wrong people in the wrong places and >> ii) much money is being wasted. > > There are good people in the UNDP. > >> it's not the lame presentation of even lamer masterplans that makes >> hundreds of thousands of people in the 3rd world die of hunger and >> deseases every month, no, it's that fucking capitalism! > > Masterplans don't kill people! > Masterplans help them survive! > >> you are in one of many key positions to change this. do something! and >> please stop driveling! > > Stop trolling. -- Joel Rees Getting involved in the neighbor's family squabbles is dangerous. But if the abusive partner has a habit of shooting through his/her roof, the guy who lives upstairs is in a bit of a catch-22. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:52:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B82116A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:52:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28BB43D1D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:52:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050503165202.BKZA8952.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:52:02 -0400 From: To: "Timo Schoeler" , "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:51:56 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <42779F4E.6020806@macfinity.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:52:11 -0000 hay nut case. take this bull shut some place else. this is not the place to be saying lies like that. You are so full of your own shit I can smell your rotten stink over the internet You have no idea what you are talking about. grow up and become a real member of the world -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Timo Schoeler Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:57 AM To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Cc: misc@openbsd.org; questions@freebsd.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS please stop posting this! Nice ASCII logo. > > I work for poor people through UNDP. one more proof that there i) are wrong people in the wrong places and ii) much money is being wasted. > I am not a government nor Microsoft employee. shouldn't make a difference as money rules the world (*cough*)... so your employer is meaningless (even if it's any UN subsidiary -- the UN is meaningless, please look at the US spreading war all over the world, the UN doing nothing against it. and no, it's not the 'terror' they're fighting -- the real terror comes from the US -- it's the fight for 'their oil'... bastards)! > > (Ask Bill) > > >>A lot of people in poor and developing countries are already >>aware that they should move towards open source, and they >>themselves keep up with those master plans everyday ... > > > That is true. > > They know they should move. But they do not really know how. > I have seen the quality of many 3rd world country masterplans. > They are poorly presented; their language and formatting is > bad; and most of them aren't based on facts. > > Western masterplans are more decent and sustainable. If they > were to be adapted to 3rd world conditions, perhaps the > situation would progress angular, and 3rd world people > wouldn't have to struggle to keep up with their masterplans. > blabla. it's not the lame presentation of even lamer masterplans that makes hundreds of thousands of people in the 3rd world die of hunger and deseases every month, no, it's that fucking capitalism! you are in one of many key positions to change this. do something! and please stop driveling! > > -- > > Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf cheers, timo (communist, vegetarian, open source dev, blablabla) -- Timo Schoeler | http://macfinity.net/~tis | timo.schoeler@macfinity.net //macfinity -- finest IT services | http://macfinity.net Key fingerprint = F844 51BE C22C F6BD 1196 90B2 EF68 C851 6E12 2D8A There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:56:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C784C16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:56:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net (ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net [166.102.165.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FEF43D46 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:56:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trey@fastmail.fm) Received: from localhost ([69.40.92.43]) by ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net with ESMTP id <20050503165602.UDRO19201.ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net@localhost>; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:56:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:56:11 -0400 From: Trey Sizemore To: jason henson Message-ID: <20050503125611.3e986827@localhost> In-Reply-To: <426F28D9.8080209@ec.rr.com> References: <20050331134642.34520.qmail@web51008.mail.yahoo.com> <424D090B.2000601@munat.com> <20050426191032.00d9e3ae@localhost> <426F28D9.8080209@ec.rr.com> Organization: very poor X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.6 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-unknown-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Ben Munat cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: firefox doesn't show up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:56:11 -0000 On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:53:29 -0400 jason henson wrote: > Trey Sizemore wrote: > > >On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:40:43 -0800 > >Ben Munat wrote: > > > > > > > >>Did you try running it from the command line? That way you can see > >>if it prints errors when it fails. > >> > >>b > >> > >> > > > >My Firefox will no longer work as a normal user (no page loads and > >buttons are unresponsive), although it does as root. Starting from > >the command line produces the following output (both as root and my > >normal user account): > > > >trey@salamander~> firefox > >LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/compat/linux/ > >usr/ local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so [Shared > >object "libc.so.6" not found, required by "nppdf.so"] *** Failed to > >load overlay chrome://useragentswitcher/content/menu.xul > > > >Any ideas on how to fix this? > > > > > > > > > Looks like your adobe plugin is a linux port. You need > emulators/linux_base-8. But you shouldn't unless you have a linux > binary. I didn't see a adobe plugin in the ports system so I am > guessing this is where you went wrong. Did you tell firefox to > install a linux or unix plugin for pdfs or acrobat reader? Remove > the adobe plugin and see if firefox works right. Also did you > install the native firefox from ports? How do I remove the offending plugin? I've tried to remove and reinstall Firefox 1.0.3, but the same behavior occurs. The root user can open and use firefox, but my normal account cannot. -- Cheers, Trey ---- Bumper sticker: "All the parts falling off this car are of the very finest British manufacture" FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386 i386 GENERIC 12:55PM up 9 mins, 0 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.17, 0.13 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:04:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C7516A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:04:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51708.mail.yahoo.com (web51708.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7FF243D5F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:04:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from poni1111@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 20866 invoked by uid 60001); 3 May 2005 17:04:23 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=aCQV7tKGLj242V+aWqEMIKKU69qENtJRs3JIiGvX1K1SMmuqkvakm8ApOcqwyGoslx1dwdjIPPNvcugEpjymo8Ffz9on/Q1XtdM9oll04tA67+qh8iVmh//lcNy5ptbby4AMdF52VFtzzmHP0Kab3OO8LGE0urGWvmp0T9ol+cQ= ; Message-ID: <20050503170422.20863.qmail@web51708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [82.78.100.255] by web51708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:04:22 PDT Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:04:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrei Iarus To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Multiple routes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:04:31 -0000 How can I have multiple gateways, and, all the packets to be sent using all the gateways simultaneously under FreeBSD 4.11? Is this possible only modyfing the kernel? :) Thank you very much for your help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:07:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0580E16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fri.itea.ntnu.no (fri.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADBE43D31 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:07:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92307EA7 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:07:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:07:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 34094 invoked by uid 1001); 3 May 2005 17:07:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 May 2005 17:07:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:07:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Jim Freeze In-Reply-To: <427799B2.4030704@freescale.com> Message-ID: <20050503190634.F34076@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <42768E35.2090706@freescale.com> <20050503100739.Q29995@maren.thelosingend.net> <427799B2.4030704@freescale.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How does one bootstrap DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:07:09 -0000 * Me: > > <>[1] One could argue that I should have at least two name servers, but why > > should I need greater redundancy on my name servers, than I have on my > > other services? If my dns is down, so is my mail, and am in the mercy of > > the sender to keep retrying anyway. * Jim Freeze [2005-05-03 10:33 -0500] > Yes, exactly. Is it permissable for ns1 and ns2 to point to the same IP > address? Yes, this should work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:18:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9EF16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:18:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iqara.net (sendmail.iqara.net [203.187.192.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E875C43D7F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:18:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 25909 invoked by uid 517); 3 May 2005 16:57:46 -0000 Received: from shantanoo@gmail.com by sendmail.iqara.net by uid 505 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (avgd: ???. Clear:RC:1(219.91.153.219):. Processed in 0.016112 secs); 03 May 2005 16:57:46 -0000 Received: from 219-153.91.219.cable-client.iqara.net (HELO dhumketu.homeunix.net) ([219.91.153.219]) (envelope-sender ) by iqara.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 May 2005 16:57:46 -0000 Received: by dhumketu.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1056A6A6D; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:48:44 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 22:48:43 +0530 From: Shantanoo Mahajan To: Clement Twine Message-ID: <20050503171843.GB1681@dhumketu.homeunix.net> References: <42734355.8030700@zonnet.nl> <20050501025803.GA6705@dhumketu.homeunix.net> <42761C0F.8070303@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42761C0F.8070303@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Eh? Whats that? X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 i386 X-UPTIME: 10:29PM up 41 mins, 0 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00 X-Mailer-Website: http://www.mutt.org cc: Frank Staals cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a KATE replacement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:18:53 -0000 +++ Clement Twine [02-05-05 14:24 +0200]: | Shantanoo Mahajan wrote the following on 05/01/2005 04:58 AM: | >+++ Frank Staals [freebsd] [30-04-05 10:35 +0200]: | >| Hey everyone, | >| | >| When I started using FreeBSD for desktop usage ( about a year ago ) I | >| used KDE as desktop manager, but now I am using XFCE4.2.1 for that | >| purpose. But when writing html pages, scripts, programs etc I still use | >| KATE ( KDE Advanced Text Editor ), the thing is that it starts up realy | >| slow ( probably because it has to load a lot of basic kde stuff ). | >| | >| So the question was does anyone know a good graphical replacement for | >| Kate, I esspecially like the bar on the left which lets you easily | >| switch between multiple files, and the build in terminalclient on the | >| bottom. I tried looking in the ports/editors section but there are that | >| many editors I realy don't know what to use. I am looking for a | >| graphical editor, not commandline ( therefor I allready use joe ). | > | >gvim, (x)emacs, bluefish, ... | | is gvim the same as kvim (apart from one being for KDE ane the other | for GNOME?) Do they offer same functionality? It seems (not sure | though) that KDE apps are more refined than GNOME apps. | | Clem. After going through the kvim's homepage, http://www.freehackers.org/kvim/, it not being maintained. I suggest using gvim instead of it. Regards, Shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:31:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7BA16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:31:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE3943D6A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:31:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1826285wri for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LQ8oTn3+I+FvesToCR9L49HrE75pSMAzZoSkJ/qBnpUDDkqQDAnNDRrC958bpPQLHVoXBoek4PBdDSdvWUcYtUt6XiJckobprZCU8YUgTYYqp3GgnO5EQkvaCRXNNH3GXS1XjD/Af+AsqDidg1g47V/sH6qt4ZABBPuRhmYb4U8= Received: by 10.54.80.18 with SMTP id d18mr10039wrb; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.4 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e10486b05050310315c2eafcc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:31:29 -0300 From: Alexandre Biancalana To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: USB GPS Receiver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexandre Biancalana List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:31:34 -0000 Hi List, I shiped and usb gps receiver (http://www.deluoelectronics.com/customer/product.php?productid=3D60&cat=3D= 0&page=3D), he is detected as ugen but not attached with ucom: May 3 14:29:38 AleStation kernel: ugen0: Prolific Technology PL2303 Serial adapter (ATEN/IOGEAR UC232A), rev 1.10/2.02, addr 2 My system: AleStation:/home/ale $ uname -a FreeBSD AleStation 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #3: Mon May 2 01:14:29 UTC 2005 =20 root@AleStation:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/AleStation i386 usb in my kernel: # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and d= a device ums # Mouse device ucom Some ideas ? Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:33:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEF716A4F0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:33:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F9743D54 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:33:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DT1H0-000HmG-4k; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:33:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Message-Id: <19C56ED6-4DFE-447D-9B67-986CA61E03CB@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:33:29 -0600 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: Chad Leigh Subject: mail/sendmail submit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:33:36 -0000 Hi I am trying to allow mail submission and sending on a 5.3-RELEASE box from inside a jail, but not a running MTA... I have the following in the rc.conf sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" # Start a localhost-only MTA for mail submission sendmail_outbound_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck mail (YES/NO). sendmail_msp_queue_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck clientmqueue mail (YES/NO). Since you cannot bind to localhost only in a jail I have that set to NO. The /etc/mail/README file says to change the freebsd.submit.mc file and remake things so that it submits to another host. I have done that by doing the "Change the FEATURE(msp) line to FEATURE(msp, hostname) where hostname is the fully qualified hostname of the alternative host." and then "'make install-submit-cf' in /etc/mail/". When I try to do a mail on the command line, I get: root@machine:/home/chad# can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser. Where do I set this TrustedUser and how do I make the mail program work as a TrustedUser? I grepped TrustedUser in /etc/mail/* and got freebsd.cf:#O TrustedUser=root freebsd.submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp machine.com.submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp sendmail.cf:#O TrustedUser=root submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp so it seems to be set to smmsp which is a valid user in the password file. Thanks for any help or pointers on getting this to work. Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:48:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAC316A4D3 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:48:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C1843D1F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])53079180058A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:47:56 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 3 May 2005 17:47:56 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C94E4BEB4; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:47:54 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:47:54 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: joel_rees@sannet.ne.jp, questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:47:54 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050503174754.9C94E4BEB4@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:48:07 -0000 Hello Joel! > Pardon the top post, but master plans are for totalitarian governments=20 > and bureaucracies. Their sole purpose is to assist in perpetuating=20 > established institutions. (No institution is going to plan it's own=20 > demise. Oh, and how well they serve their purpose is a subject of some=20 > debate.) I meant the sort of masterplans that are for people to follow. And maybe, in some cases, democratic governments in countries where there is no such thing as established institutions. 3rd world governments have by now realized that it is wiser to privatize rather than to perpetuate -- which again brings up plans for people to follow. > Maybe what you should be asking for is examples of business plans,=20 > although those are all too often used by the powers that be to keep=20 > small businesses from growing and threatening the status quo. Informal=20 > operating policies and such might also be of interest. Right now any example will do. Thank you for your worthy input! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:55:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B08716A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:55:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [212.95.179.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A799E43D1D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 57044 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 17:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 May 2005 17:55:05 -0000 Received: from proxy.procreditbank.bg ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.procreditbank.bg [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 20997-825 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:55:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: (qmail 57040 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 17:55:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROCREDI99E694) (192.168.1.254) by mail.procreditbank.bg with SMTP; 3 May 2005 17:55:04 -0000 From: "Ivailo Tanusheff" To: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:55:04 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thread-Index: AcVQCTvR2Tkuxou4TMeEtKe7xWGclw== X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at procreditbank.bg Message-Id: <20050503175512.A799E43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Kdm problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:55:14 -0000 Hi, I have problem running kdm on a FreeBSD 5.3 server. When I start the kdm, I receive following error in /var/log/messages: May 3 20:45:10 test kdm[567]: XDMCP socket creation failed, errno 43 I was not able to find any answer searching with google, so I hope you can help me. Kdm is set for broadcasting, allowing everyone to establish a communication. Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 18:10:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B087F16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:10:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6382F43D6D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.217 with plain) by smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2005 18:10:21 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:10:19 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050503174754.9C94E4BEB4@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050503174754.9C94E4BEB4@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Face: "u-%.52Z_uQCP'Vdj{95/n*(sgAAm`F/p'b0zo%-DuBTdZ*qW!!/idDBRjkFfJD[Qe&>=?utf-8?q?=5F2=0A=09?=<}OGsEY~)n?NywZRi9xm-jH_VPg"8nTSzo:r8;U3oTQz|@z)|>%i+MRY2Y#>s~X`sV$&t"=?utf-8?q?=0A=09AkQ=5EU3rJIFCU=3F=5DcC=27F=26fY4=23Jf-=7D=3F7x?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505031110.19414.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Subject: Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:10:30 -0000 On Tue 3 May 05 10:47, "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" wrote: > Right now any example will do. > Thank you for your worthy input! I admire your enthusiasm, but perhaps this would be better in advocacy@ or chat@. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat FWIW, it doesn't help your cause to be starting several new threads on the same subject, particularly when they're replies to other people (so it should be one thread), and on a tech help list. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 18:32:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F6E16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:32:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9998143D95 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:32:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DT2AN-000F2q-qy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 20:30:43 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-195-133.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.195.133] helo=netphobia) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DT2AM-000F2m-rO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 20:30:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:32:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Subject: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:32:58 -0000 Hi, Simple question really... Can you ever have to much swap space? We're sitting with quite a nifty P4 System with 1GB Ram. We will more than likely add another 2 or 3GB in the month to come as our applications (mainly perl) are consuming vast amounts of memory and swap. We made the mistake however of just allocating 512MB swap as we did not know accurately at the time of installation what the resouce requires are going to be (especially not that it would be this high). Obviously reinstalling the entire OS / Applications is not really a option. We may want to install a dedicated 40GB just for swap... Would this be advisable, or will it actually slow the system down? And to what extend? We're running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE. Thanks in advance. -- Chris. I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 18:36:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E3916A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:36:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107ED43D86 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:36:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so9023nzf for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:36:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IUo/E/k7vO4PnWfDzFsnrbARoH7PMM9PnJfnXqAOmwD3zXJBYgdWZlyWEdobZV89BsVgfQZMnIOEtDO1ITV+QGG1zckwXPZdA89VGaX9cFe/sm6GAGiw9a0x2aiS6CLL73Hv9Ss3LU/Tb3SQPxX/ljmNuonu5fr//Rcv9qsgHys= Received: by 10.36.72.4 with SMTP id u4mr9168nza; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.19 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e46c99e05050311364318bc1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:36:00 -0400 From: Tomas Quintero To: Andrei Iarus In-Reply-To: <20050503170422.20863.qmail@web51708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050503170422.20863.qmail@web51708.mail.yahoo.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple routes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:36:06 -0000 On 5/3/05, Andrei Iarus wrote: > How can I have multiple gateways, and, all the packets > to be sent using all the gateways simultaneously under > FreeBSD 4.11? Is this possible only modyfing the > kernel? :) Thank you very much for your help. Under 5.3-RELEASE I have 3 DSL connections set to round-robin using PF. Under 4.11 I had used IPF and IPNAT and had half of the net range set to utilize one gateway, the other half to use another. I find the PF round-robin solution to be much more effective. I am unsure if you can use IPF/IPFW to round-robin nat, at least as easily as PF. In short though, you won't need to modify your kernel, short of including whichever firewall module you choose to utilize. I'm curious, when you say simultaneously, do you mean you want the same duplicated data to be sent out all of your gateways at the same time? --=20 -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 18:40:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9786716A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:40:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0623943D5F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:40:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfarmour@myrealbox.com) Received: from pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.181]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IFX00B3FFVV6O90@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:40:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IFX00KXQFVVTK00@pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:40:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net (S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.146.24]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IFX00520FVUAW@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:40:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:40:53 -0700 From: David Armour In-reply-to: <20050502120100.B872116A525@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Toni Schmidbauer Message-id: <200505031140.54257.dfarmour@myrealbox.com> Organization: dfarmour.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050502120100.B872116A525@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Subject: Re: pkg_info output? ... 'homework' clarification sought! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:40:47 -0000 hello, thanks v. much for your kind reply. sorry for my delay in responding. i was heading off to work when i first saw your message. the translation of the tip segments helps immensely. as for the "homework", well... i'm not 'there,' yet. some possible suspects: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 11:48:35PM -0700, David Armour wrote: > > pkg_info | sort | sed -e 's/-[0-9].*$//' | uniq -c | grep -v > > '^[[:space:]]*1' > > 0) pkg_info <= list all packages installed. yep > 1) sort <= sort resulting list by package name. gotcha. > 2) sed -e 's/-[0-9].*$//' <= delete everything after a dash followed by a number followed by everything else. (autoconf-2.59_2 >> autoconf) ... my understanding starts to go south 'round about here. i can see from sed's manpage(s): sed [-Ean] [-e command] ...that the command, the characters between the apostrophes, [a] appends "the editing commands specified by the command argument to the list of commands." nowhere on the manpage, however, can i find any reference to the 'delete' you mention. Waay down the page, in a thicket of sed "functions", i run across: [2addr]s/regular expression/replacement/flags *S*ubstitute the replacement string for the first instance of the regular expression in the pattern space. A line can be split by substituting a newline character into it. To specify a newline character in the replacement string, precede it with a backslash. ... which, going out on the limb of my understanding, here, seems to match the intent, at least, of the 'delete' you point to. admittedly, i'm mostly grasping at straws in terms of what the '$' and the '//' are doing in there. and the warning in the "bugs" section... Multibyte characters containing a byte with value 0x5C (ASCII `\') may be incorrectly treated as line continuation characters in arguments to the ``a'', ``c'' and ``i'' commands. *Multibyte characters cannot be used as delimiters with the ``s'' and ``y'' commands.* ... seems to introduce the possibility, at least for 'homework' purposes, that the 'textbook' might have a typo as far as the "s" command. ??? > 3) uniq -c <= believe it or not, but earlier i had got a 'command not found' message when i tried to man uniq. after i saw your message i re-tried it and, of course, it worked. no idea what *that's* about! > -c Precede each output line with the count of the number of times > the line occurred in the input, followed by a single space. i see the sense of '-c' mapping to 'count'. i'm less clear about where the 'space', single or otherwise, comes in. [except that that's the spec!] > > pkg_info | sort | sed -e 's/-[0-9].*$//' | uniq -c | grep -v > > '^[[:space:]]*1' > so counts how often autoconf is in the list resulting from 2) > > 4) grep -v '^[[:space:]]*1' > > delete every line starting (^) with one or more space characters " " > followed by 1 in the list resulting from 3) > > this deletes lines where only 1 version exists, e.g.: > > 1 borg > > > 3 autoconf > > 3 automake > > 6 docbook > > 2 gcc > > 2 glib > > 2 gtk > > 2 libtool > > 2 perl > > 2 xorg-fonts > > so there are 3 versions of autoconf installed, 3 versions of > automake and so on. > > the script is not quite correct because these two packages are > counted as two versions of xorg-fonts: > > xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 > xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 > > homework: find a version that works :-) > > hth, [a] In a context address, any character other than a backslash (``\'') or newline character may be used to delimit the regular expression. > toni > -- > Wer es einmal so weit gebracht hat, dass er nicht | toni at stderror dot at > mehr irrt, der hat auch zu arbeiten aufgehoert | Toni Schmidbauer > -- Max Planck | > > ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 18:45:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AA916A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:45:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA74A43D82 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:45:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE5CF5642E; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:45:41 +1200 (NZST) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 06:45:41 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: vizion@ixpres.com Message-ID: <20050503184541.GB65039@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <2156.64.58.171.91.1115014056.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> <20050502082951.GC81673@lucky.net> <1435.64.58.171.86.1115056437.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> <20050502200312.GB58981@osiris.chen.org.nz> <1976.64.58.171.91.1115075772.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> <2186.64.58.171.91.1115089406.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2186.64.58.171.91.1115089406.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ignorance and file suffixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:45:48 -0000 On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 08:03:26PM -0700, vizion@ixpres.com wrote: [...] > On running cvsup I received an error message > < Realease not specified for collection "ports-all"> [...] My working file for -STABLE + ports looks like this: # Defaults that apply to all the collections # *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress *default tag=RELENG_5 src-all *default tag=. ports-all Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Internet: an empirical test of the idea that a million monkeys banging on a million keyboards can produce Shakespeare From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 18:56:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AD816A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:56:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD9B43D8A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:56:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 0AFDC153885; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:56:16 -1000 (HST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:56:15 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Chris Knipe Message-ID: <20050503185614.GA17658@tikitechnologies.com> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Knipe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:56:23 -0000 On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:32:54PM +0200, Chris Knipe wrote: > Simple question really... Can you ever have to much swap space? Only if there are better things you can do with that disk (or money.) In this case, RAM might be a better priority, see below. > We're sitting with quite a nifty P4 System with 1GB Ram. We will more than > likely add another 2 or 3GB in the month to come as our applications > (mainly perl) are consuming vast amounts of memory and swap. You might want to look at your application architecture as to why you are using all that virtual memory and whether you could change something so as not to be using so much at once. > We made the mistake however of just allocating 512MB swap as we did not > know accurately at the time of installation what the resouce requires are > going to be (especially not that it would be this high). > > Obviously reinstalling the entire OS / Applications is not really a option. > We may want to install a dedicated 40GB just for swap... Would this be > advisable, or will it actually slow the system down? And to what extend? Having lots of swap space shouldn't slow a system down. However, *using* it will. If your applications are hitting the swap any more than occasionally under peak load, you should assume that your system is running a good order of magnitude slower than it needs to (i.e. at least a factor of 10.) A traditional rule of thumb is to have 1x - 2x the total RAM size in swap space. This assures that you can do a crash dump and that you can deal with peak load of 2x the normal maximum number of processes by swapping them out. Beyond that, you are probably better off with the system just refusing to fork more processes or allocate them memory. Sometimes unbounded swap usage reflects the system "falling off a cliff" as the result of an inbound transaction request rate which exceeds the transaction service rate. If the outstanding transactions build up to the point that the system starts to swap a little bit, then the system performance drops dramatically as the system needs to page data out/in to run some processes. This causes the transaction service rate to drop sharply (e.g. by an order of magnitude as I mentioned above.) As a direct result the number of outstanding processes shoots up and the VM and swap usage goes through the roof. If this is the scenario, you should definitely add more RAM before worrying about adding more swap. The swap won't hurt, but the RAM is what will actually benefit your system. (Depending on your application, software changes may have the most benefit of all.) There's my free advice, worth every penny. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@tikitechnologies.com Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect "I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide..." -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:04:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCEA16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:04:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C747143D67 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:04:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Tue, 03 May 2005 21:04:06 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:04:06 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050503190405.GA62961@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <200504282037.55234.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <200505030102.59196.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505030102.59196.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: Re: Where can i d/l VMware-workstation-3.2.1-2242.tar.gz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:04:16 -0000 On 03 May Warren wrote: > I ended up finding it, but where would i find a list of various mirror > sites and where would i add them into the list of mirrors to check as > i often come across the problem of pkgs not found. Do you really mean this? The *only* file not found that I get using the ports _is_ the vmware package. I saved it for later days for that reason alone. As said though, google is your friend. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:15:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779F616A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:15:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brian.firebadger.net (82-69-4-157.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.4.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B11E743D49 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:15:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@firebadger.net) Received: (qmail 53618 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 18:16:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) (192.168.1.10) by 192.168.1.15 with SMTP; 3 May 2005 18:16:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4277CDAF.1050601@firebadger.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:14:55 +0100 From: Richard Collyer User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Raid Array Over 2Tb on Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:15:13 -0000 Hello, I plan on building a raid array of 8*400GB disks raid 5. Now as win2k cant support partitions over 2tb and I right in thinking that this is for the local machine only and that over samba (array in FreeBSD 5.4 machine [when it comes out]) it should be able to see all space or will I have to carve it up. Cheers Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:18:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F6516A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:18:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4764743D6E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:18:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas.henry@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2007827nzp for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:18:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZTFK8xBiKzKZ3Di4LYpaCD43YEWEnxEG1G5rFtSjH7KFMjs8+muX0Wu8boeGKptTCnD1lOYLZaA+KI5xGpG+P1E8p2PaTAHXQFmSt6C4qHWGdSudMZzOxxEHi4fqNajkAW1poHWnj6/8m5BIVSobzctrPrcM66VR6ZumJkUu2Sw= Received: by 10.36.34.12 with SMTP id h12mr750105nzh; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.2 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:18:25 -0400 From: Nicholas Henry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: IPFW custom rules file not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nicholas Henry List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:18:31 -0000 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 I'm a new BSD user installing the OS for the first time. Everything is running well except the firewall. IPFW is not loading the custom rules set I have created at startup/boot (although it does say it has but when I ipfw list it only gives me the one default rule). I assume it is related to this area that I received on the console: May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: firewall_enable: not found May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding dis$ May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Flushed all rules. May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Line 3: May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: bad command `ipfw' May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel:=20 May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Firewall rules loaded, starting divert daemons= : May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: firewall_enable: not found May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: . May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: net.inet.ip.fw.enable: May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: 1 May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: -> May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: 1 I'm refering to the "bad command 'ipfw'" line. I'm also concerned about the "firewall_enable" not found message. I have included the relevant rc.conf setting and the custom rules file (based on the ruleset from the handbook). I'm currently setting up a firewall for this machine that is connected to a D-Link router. My questions are: Why am I getting the bad command msg? Do I need to be concerned about the "firewall_enabled: not found" Any help would be much appreciated, thank you. ** start rc.conf snippet ** firewall_enable=3D"YES" =20 firewall_script=3D"/etc/rc.firewall"=20 firewall_type=3D"/etc/ipfw.rules" firewall_quiet=3D"NO" =20 firewall_logging=3D"NO" =20 firewall_flags=3D"" =20 ** send rc.conf snippet ** ** start ipfw.rules ** #!/bin/sh # Flush out the list before we begin. ipfw -q -f flush # Set rules command prefix cmd=3D"ipfw -q add" skip=3D"skipto 801" pif=3D"fxp0" =09#found by doing a ifconfig or netstat -nr =09=09# public interface name of NIC ################################################################# # No restrictions on Inside LAN Interface for private network # Change xl0 to your LAN NIC interface name ################################################################# # $cmd 005 allow all from any to any via xl0 # don't have a separate interface so won't worry about this ################################################################# # No restrictions on Loopback Interface ################################################################# $cmd 010 allow all from any to any via lo0 ################################################################# # check if packet is inbound and nat address if it is ################################################################# # $cmd 014 divert natd ip from any to any in via $pif ################################################################# # Allow the packet through if it has previous been added to the # the "dynamic" rules table by a allow keep-state statement. ################################################################# $cmd 015 check-state ################################################################# # Interface facing Public Internet (Outbound Section) # Interrogate session start requests originating from behind the # firewall on the private network or from this gateway server # destine for the public Internet. ################################################################# # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server. # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file $cmd 020 $skip tcp from any to 24.153.22.67 53 out via $pif setup keep-stat= e $cmd 020 $skip tcp from any to 24.153.22.66 53 out via $pif setup keep-stat= e # Allow out access to my ISP's DHCP server for cable/DSL configurations. # This is for the internal router $cmd 030 $skip udp from any to 198.168.1.1 67 out via $pif keep-state # Allow out non-secure standard www function $cmd 040 $skip tcp from any to any 80 out via $pif setup keep-state $cmd 040 $skip tcp from any to any 8989 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out secure www function https over TLS SSL $cmd 050 $skip tcp from any to any 443 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out send & get email function $cmd 060 $skip tcp from any to any 25 out via $pif setup keep-state $cmd 061 $skip tcp from any to any 110 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out FreeBSD (make install & CVSUP) functions # Basically give user root "GOD" privileges. $cmd 070 $skip tcp from me to any out via $pif setup keep-state uid root # Allow out ping $cmd 080 $skip icmp from any to any out via $pif keep-state # Allow out Time $cmd 090 $skip tcp from any to any 37 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out nntp news (i.e. news groups) $cmd 100 $skip tcp from any to any 119 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP # This function is using SSH (secure shell) $cmd 110 $skip tcp from any to any 22 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out whois $cmd 120 $skip tcp from any to any 43 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow ntp time server $cmd 130 $skip udp from any to any 123 out via $pif keep-state ################################################################# # Interface facing Public Internet (Inbound Section) # Interrogate packets originating from the public Internet # destine for this gateway server or the private network. ################################################################# # Deny all inbound traffic from non-routable reserved address spaces #$cmd 300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $pif #RFC 1918=20 #private IP #$cmd 301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $pif #RFC 1918=20 #private IP #$cmd 302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif #RFC 1918=20 #private IP #$cmd 303 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif #loopback #$cmd 304 deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif #loopback #$cmd 305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $pif #DHCP=20 #auto-config #$cmd 306 deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any in via $pif #reserved for= =20 #docs #$cmd 307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $pif #Sun cluster #$cmd 308 deny all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in via $pif #Class D & E=20 #multicast # Deny ident $cmd 315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $pif # Deny all Netbios service. 137=3Dname, 138=3Ddatagram, 139=3Dsession # Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. # Block MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 $cmd 320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $pif $cmd 321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $pif $cmd 322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $pif $cmd 323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $pif # Deny any late arriving packets $cmd 330 deny all from any to any frag in via $pif # Deny ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table $cmd 332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $pif # Allow traffic in from ISP's DHCP server. This rule must contain # the IP address of your ISP's DHCP server as it's the only # authorized source to send this packet type. # Only necessary for cable or DSL configurations. # This rule is not needed for 'user ppp' type connection to # the public Internet. This is the same IP address you captured # and used in the outbound section. $cmd 360 allow udp from 24.153.23.66 to any 68 in via $pif keep-state $cmd 360 allow udp from 24.153.23.67 to any 68 in via $pif keep-state # Allow in standard www function because I have Apache server $cmd 370 allow tcp from any to me 80 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 $cmd 370 allow tcp from any to me 8989 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 # Allow in secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP from public Internet $cmd 380 allow tcp from any to me 22 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 # Allow in non-secure Telnet session from public Internet # labeled non-secure because ID & PW are passed over public # Internet as clear text. # Delete this sample group if you do not have telnet server enabled. $cmd 390 allow tcp from any to me 23 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 # Reject & Log all unauthorized incoming connections from the public Intern= et $cmd 400 deny log all from any to any in via $pif # Reject & Log all unauthorized out going connections to the public Interne= t $cmd 450 deny log all from any to any out via $pif # This is skipto location for outbound stateful rules # $cmd 800 divert natd ip from any to any out via $pif $cmd 801 allow ip from any to any # Everything else is denied by default # deny and log all packets that fell through to see what they are $cmd 999 deny log all from any to any ** end ipfw.rules ** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:18:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7BE16A4DC for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:18:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9502143D81 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:18:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DT2ub-000FLa-qJ; Tue, 03 May 2005 21:18:29 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-195-133.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.195.133] helo=netphobia) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DT2ua-000FLT-qu; Tue, 03 May 2005 21:18:28 +0200 Message-ID: <007b01c55014$e304ae70$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: "Clifton Royston" References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050503185614.GA17658@tikitechnologies.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:18:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:18:37 -0000 >> We made the mistake however of just allocating 512MB swap as we did not >> know accurately at the time of installation what the resouce requires are >> going to be (especially not that it would be this high). > > A traditional rule of thumb is to have 1x - 2x the total RAM size in > swap space. This assures that you can do a crash dump and that you can > deal with peak load of 2x the normal maximum number of processes by > swapping them out. Beyond that, you are probably better off with the > system just refusing to fork more processes or allocate them memory. i.e. 4GB Ram, approx 8GB Swap? In that case we'll need to install a secondary HDD in any case. The current drive is already partitioned and what not, so reinstall isn't a option. Having 2 or more swap partitions should also not be a big deal? And this might be a extremely stupid question, but both are used at the same time right? Some of our other high end perl systems use allot of memory as well. We normally use stuff like SYSVSHM, SYSVMSG and SYSVSEM (Plus allot of parameters / options for it which I do not currently have with me unfortunately). Me personally, are not 100% on what the drawbacks or benefits are, but would this make a difference? In some of our production environments, we have applications terminating within seconds of reaching peak load without SYSV + "magic" options in the kernel. This is not because of bad code, but because of severe load (thousands of concurrent connections). The server in question right now is basically a high end anti-spam / anti-virus solution (which by nature is extremely resource intensive - look at big SA installations for example). We are already running with MAXUSERS 512 and NMBCLUSTERS=65535 as "advanced" features in the kernel currently. I suppose I should recompile and add SYSV (after I got the "magic" options again). Those two options are also so far the only options I found to "tune" for a high performance FBSD config... If anyone have additional resources, please feel free to share... :) I'm talking under correction, but I believe the "magic" options to the SYSV stuff is related to specifying the ammounts of ram to use, etc. Thanks for all the answers and suggestions!!! -- Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:43:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2633B16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:43:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835F643D8D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fborghesi@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so48456nzp for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:42:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qr6du8jlJc47xRcNhPtW8W0pzxCxtQfKH6cbSTGi9RxDL6nUs5YbPRppcmmNLJMi7V9/PItWk+dnMCZCZHMIaX555eOCGkvlExzXQM6W6j3nzRUJ9XDWNdza4OGV1pAS77m765QrkAa0zfIkoBarMjo+CZEa8oSOxQGMmuZbHXk= Received: by 10.36.33.6 with SMTP id g6mr753961nzg; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.10 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:42:51 -0300 From: Franco Bruno Borghesi To: Chris Knipe In-Reply-To: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Franco Bruno Borghesi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:43:01 -0000 Actually having a separated disk for swap should increase your performance. But my opinion is that if you really need *all* the 40 GB of swap when your= =20 system's ram is 3 GB, you won't see the difference: most of the data your= =20 system needs is swapped out! You could add a partition to your new disk (let's say 2 or 3 times the=20 amount of ram), and leave the rest unpartitioned. You could use that extra= =20 space later for nightly backups, emergencies, etc. without loosing your=20 performance gain. Hope it helps. PS: Is there a FreeBSD 5.4 stable version? 2005/5/3, Chris Knipe : >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Simple question really... Can you ever have to much swap space? >=20 > We're sitting with quite a nifty P4 System with 1GB Ram. We will more tha= n > likely add another 2 or 3GB in the month to come as our applications=20 > (mainly > perl) are consuming vast amounts of memory and swap. >=20 > We made the mistake however of just allocating 512MB swap as we did not= =20 > know > accurately at the time of installation what the resouce requires are goin= g > to be (especially not that it would be this high). >=20 > Obviously reinstalling the entire OS / Applications is not really a=20 > option. > We may want to install a dedicated 40GB just for swap... Would this be > advisable, or will it actually slow the system down? And to what extend? >=20 > We're running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE. >=20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 > -- > Chris. >=20 > I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they > fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:45:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A111116A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:45:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CDC43D5A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:45:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) id j43JjXOW021124; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j43JjVeD016822; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:45:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4277CDAF.1050601@firebadger.net> References: <4277CDAF.1050601@firebadger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6b85afa781fdccd89d861b08ffe3d0d6@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:45:30 -0400 To: Richard Collyer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Raid Array Over 2Tb on Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:45:43 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Richard Collyer wrote: > I plan on building a raid array of 8*400GB disks raid 5. Now as win2k > cant support partitions over 2tb and I right in thinking that this is > for the local machine only and that over samba (array in FreeBSD 5.4 > machine [when it comes out]) it should be able to see all space or > will I have to carve it up. I would not recommend trying to use greater than 2GB partitions via Samba, or even natively, at this time. There are significant issues, such as being able to run fsck against such large partitions without fsck's memory usage consuming excessive resources. If you need to set up such a massive NAS fileserver, you really ought to consider dedicated products from companies like Auspex and NetApp. Another alternative might be an Apple Xserve RAID with Xsan, but this doesn't have the track record of my earlier suggestions. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:53:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0471116A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:53:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0AF43D55 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:53:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DT3PE-000FVR-q8; Tue, 03 May 2005 21:50:08 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-195-133.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.195.133] helo=netphobia) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DT3PD-000FVN-qI; Tue, 03 May 2005 21:50:07 +0200 Message-ID: <00d001c55019$4edae520$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: "Franco Bruno Borghesi" References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:50:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:53:31 -0000 > PS: Is there a FreeBSD 5.4 stable version? FreeBSD pyro.acme.com 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 27 15:51:43 SAST 2005 root@pyro.acme.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PYRO i386 Guess so :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:57:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303A116A4D0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:57:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55AE43D77 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:57:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fborghesi@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3433494nzo for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:57:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KoKi9a3mny7llKkYsC0f7TFsESEr9JF1o95BoUJHI9vY2ZKmuEUOPT/YpI6s9HEdJvFEDcXcBAyq8AGpFBg7ru7fIsLK9iY1arR02FoUi4XEyqa45TvGGe45Y3o6H/3SK3k5ASDVLtp3Lbgv/QDM1N2r+zID0aUx1oMe29AdyP8= Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr755785nzb; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.10 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:56:19 -0300 From: Franco Bruno Borghesi To: Chris Knipe In-Reply-To: <00d001c55019$4edae520$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <00d001c55019$4edae520$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Franco Bruno Borghesi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:57:28 -0000 Time to upgrade then ;-) 2005/5/3, Chris Knipe : >=20 >=20 > > PS: Is there a FreeBSD 5.4 stable version? >=20 > FreeBSD pyro.acme.com 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABL= E#0: Wed Apr 27 15:51:43 > SAST 2005 root@pyro.acme.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PYRO i386 >=20 > Guess so :) >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:05:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B6E16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:05:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wave.geekisp.com (wave.geekisp.com [204.89.131.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECE643D5A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from njt@wave.geekisp.com) Received: (qmail 31091 invoked by uid 5077); 3 May 2005 20:05:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:05:04 -0400 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050503200504.GA28792@ayvali.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: MIT Zephyr available on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:05:24 -0000 Does anyone know if the MIT Zephyr Notification System (which included the command "zwrite"), or some newer incarnation of it, is available on FreeBSD? A glance at ports didn't show anything. thanks, Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:12:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1BE16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:12:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B6443D54 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:12:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-27-94-59.san.res.rr.com [66.27.94.59]) (authenticated bits=0)j43KC8jF000381 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 3 May 2005 13:12:09 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050503130925.1c479500@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Sender: lists@cobalt.antimatter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:11:25 -0700 To: Chris Knipe , From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:12:15 -0000 At 11:32 AM 5/3/2005, Chris Knipe wrote: >Hi, > >Simple question really... Can you ever have to much swap space? > >We're sitting with quite a nifty P4 System with 1GB Ram. We will more >than likely add another 2 or 3GB in the month to come as our applications >(mainly perl) are consuming vast amounts of memory and swap. > >We made the mistake however of just allocating 512MB swap as we did not >know accurately at the time of installation what the resouce requires are >going to be (especially not that it would be this high). > >Obviously reinstalling the entire OS / Applications is not really a >option. We may want to install a dedicated 40GB just for swap... Would >this be advisable, or will it actually slow the system down? And to what >extend? There are practical limits to how much swap you can or want to have on your system. Take a look at this for more info http://kerneltrap.org/node/323?PHPSESSID=9c6e97871e0d3a3632de7ccff346b0c6 -Glenn >We're running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE. > >Thanks in advance. > > >-- >Chris. > >I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they >fly by..." - Douglas Adams, 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:13:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A551016A4D1 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:13:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7D443D58 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:13:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 18610 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 20:13:24 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 May 2005 20:13:23 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 39C8C56; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Ivailo Tanusheff" References: <20050503175512.A799E43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 03 May 2005 16:13:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20050503175512.A799E43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <44y8awax0c.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kdm problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:13:29 -0000 "Ivailo Tanusheff" writes: > I have problem running kdm on a FreeBSD 5.3 server. > When I start the kdm, I receive following error in /var/log/messages: > > May 3 20:45:10 test kdm[567]: XDMCP socket creation failed, errno 43 > > I was not able to find any answer searching with google, so I hope you can > help me. > Kdm is set for broadcasting, allowing everyone to establish a communication. You aren't running at a raised securelevel, are you? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:15:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A14A16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:15:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zhonka1.zhonka.net (zhonka1.zhonka.net [66.228.195.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB5243D60 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:15:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([66.228.196.74]) by zhonka1.zhonka.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58414U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:14:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DFD58AB; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.pjkh.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53459-08; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8F7EA58AA; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884FD58A9; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: <6b85afa781fdccd89d861b08ffe3d0d6@mac.com> Message-ID: <20050503131311.F54447@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <4277CDAF.1050601@firebadger.net> <6b85afa781fdccd89d861b08ffe3d0d6@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pjkh.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Richard Collyer Subject: Re: Raid Array Over 2Tb on Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:15:11 -0000 > On May 3, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Richard Collyer wrote: >> I plan on building a raid array of 8*400GB disks raid 5. Now as win2k cant >> support partitions over 2tb and I right in thinking that this is for the >> local machine only and that over samba (array in FreeBSD 5.4 machine [when >> it comes out]) it should be able to see all space or will I have to carve >> it up. > > I would not recommend trying to use greater than 2GB partitions via Samba, or ^^^ You meant 2TB not 2GB right? Cause I've been using samba with 8GB shares for a looong time... I'm guessing so, just thought we should be sure :) > even natively, at this time. There are significant issues, such as being > able to run fsck against such large partitions without fsck's memory usage > consuming excessive resources. > > If you need to set up such a massive NAS fileserver, you really ought to > consider dedicated products from companies like Auspex and NetApp. Another > alternative might be an Apple Xserve RAID with Xsan, but this doesn't have > the track record of my earlier suggestions. > > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:18:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8295E16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:18:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C06443D75 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:18:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfarmour@myrealbox.com) Received: from pd5mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.183]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IFX00LDWKCVG330@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:17:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd5mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IFX0061CK9874H0@pd5mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net (S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.146.24]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IFX00K4AK978R@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:15:19 -0700 From: David Armour In-reply-to: <20050502120100.B872116A525@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Toni Schmidbauer Message-id: <200505031315.19584.dfarmour@myrealbox.com> Organization: dfarmour.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050502120100.B872116A525@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Subject: Re: pkg_info output? 'homework' clarification sought... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:18:13 -0000 hello, sorry: clicked wrong icon, & truncated my reply/question. i think. i hope my lame-ish attempt at 'homework' doesn't screw with the list charter. i offer it in a spirit of open-source newbie encouragement. [note from previous message, orphaned by my mistake: [a] In a context address, any character other than a backslash (``\'') or newline character may be used to delimit the regular expression. ] > > pkg_info | sort | sed -e 's/-[0-9].*$//' | uniq -c | grep -v > > '^[[:space:]]*1' >1),>2),>3)... in previous mis-sent message. > 4) grep -v '^[[:space:]]*1' > ... deletes lines where only 1 version exists, e.g.: grep -v, --invert-match # Invert the sense of matching, to select non-matching lines. A bracket expression is a list of characters enclosed by [ and ]. It matches any single character in that list; if the first character of the list is the caret ^ then it matches any character not in the list. ... Finally, certain predefined named classes of characters are ... [:space:] .... The caret ^ and the dollar sign $ are metacharacters that respectively match the empty string at the beginning and end of a line. i'd assumed [bad!] that the '-v' represented 'verbose' as it does with several other commands. but the overall structure, if that's the right word, of the grep part of the tip seems a bit like a double negative, what with the '^' HOMEWORK portion: > the script is not quite correct because these two packages are > counted as two versions of xorg-fonts: > xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 > xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 > > pkg_info | sort | sed -e 's/-[0-9].*$//' | uniq -c | grep -v > > '^[[:space:]]*1' so 2 hits out of 360 odd packages compromise otherwise informative results? and assuming, for the moment, that everyone here understands that the ideas expressed *here* are coming from about as far out in left field as is possible... ? as i understand things, so far: sed gets a list of sorted stuff that looks like: autoconf-6.8.2.... borg-6.8.2 ... perl-6.8.2... xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 and uniq counts instances of duplication so the list now looks like: 3 autoconf-6.8.2 1 borg-6.8.2 ... 2 perl-6.8.2 2 xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 the tip asks sed to look in a sorted list of installed packages for instances of hyphens followed by numerals between 0-9. i'm guessing that sed either needs to incorporate a check within its own results (maybe a set of brackets with a second sed -e 's/-[0-9].*$//' |)?, *before* uniq gets its hands on it, or some sort of if/then condition programming wizardry to scarf up potential stragglers. of course, at this stage in my travels in unix-land, i have no idea, clear or unclear how such twickery might occur. nonetheless, the natives appear friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:19:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E34916A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:19:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E08843D6B for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) id j43KJ7Hu007559; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j43KJ58x000658; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:19:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20050503131311.F54447@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <4277CDAF.1050601@firebadger.net> <6b85afa781fdccd89d861b08ffe3d0d6@mac.com> <20050503131311.F54447@wolf.pjkh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:19:05 -0400 To: Philip Hallstrom X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Richard Collyer Subject: Re: Raid Array Over 2Tb on Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:19:14 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Philip Hallstrom wrote: >> I would not recommend trying to use greater than 2GB partitions via >> Samba, or > ^^^ > You meant 2TB not 2GB right? Cause I've been using samba with 8GB > shares for a looong time... I'm guessing so, just thought we should > be sure :) Ah, yes-- "TB" as in terabyte. Sorry. :-) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:36:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAE016A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:36:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp3.tin.it (vsmtp3alice.tin.it [212.216.176.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D2943D83 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:36:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.demartino2@virgilio.it) Received: from wireless (62.211.199.166) by vsmtp3.tin.it (7.0.027) id 427155AD001DE413 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:35:58 +0200 From: Vittorio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 22:35:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505032235.49979.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> Subject: Problems with user ppp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:36:05 -0000 On my PC with the latest freebsd 5.4 I'm trying to connect to my ISP "alice= "=20 by means of user ppp. Here is my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:=20 # default: =A0set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command =A0ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) =A0set device /dev/cuaa0 =A0set speed 115200 =A0set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CON= NECT" =A0set timeout 180 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# 3 minut= e idle timer (the default) alice: =A0# =A0# edit the next three lines and replace the items in caps with =A0# the values which have been assigned by your ISP. =A0# =A0set phone "7020803380" =A0set authname "pippolino@tin.it" =A0set authkey "nonteladico" =A0set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 =A0add default HISADDR =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# Add a (stic= ky) default route =A0enable dns =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 # req= uest DNS info (for resolv.conf) AND in /etc/ppp/options lock noauth Launching "ppp -background alice" I can connect with my ISP but ..... names= =20 are not resolved because PPP doesn't get the DNSs provided by the peer and= =20 uses the first DNS server in in /etc/resolv.conf ,10.255.201.22, of a=20 previous dhcp connection at office. Here it is an extract of the connection log: =2E........................................................................= =2E....... ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his =3D CHAP 0x05, mine =3D none ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes from apx-rm5) ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (pippolino@tin.it) ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: SUCCESS ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: Using trigger address 0.0.0.0 ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: LayerStart. ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: MPPE: Not usable without CHAP81 ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state =3D Closed ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: =A0DEFLATE[4] win 15 ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: =A0PRED1[2] ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerStart. ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state =3D Closed ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0PRIDNS[6] 10.155.201.22 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state =3D Req-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0IPADDR[6] 80.21.255.5 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(1) state =3D Req-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0IPADDR[6] 80.21.255.5 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvProtocolRej(3) state =3D Opened ppp[505]: tun0: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x80fd (Compression Control=20 Protocol) ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(1) state =3D Ack-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0IPADDR[6] 212.216.149.154 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0IPADDR[6] changing address: 0.0.0.0 =A0-->=20 212.216.149.154 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0PRIDNS[6] 10.155.201.22 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.155.201.22 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state =3D Ack-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0IPADDR[6] 212.216.149.154 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0PRIDNS[6] 10.155.201.22 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2) state =3D Ack-Sent =2E........................................................................= =2E......... What should I do? Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:45:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EED316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:45:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E9243D54 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:45:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 94816513B6; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:45:42 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Chris Knipe Message-ID: <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:45:48 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:32:54PM +0200, Chris Knipe wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Simple question really... Can you ever have to much swap space? >=20 > We're sitting with quite a nifty P4 System with 1GB Ram. We will more th= an=20 > likely add another 2 or 3GB in the month to come as our applications=20 > (mainly perl) are consuming vast amounts of memory and swap. >=20 > We made the mistake however of just allocating 512MB swap as we did not= =20 > know accurately at the time of installation what the resouce requires are= =20 > going to be (especially not that it would be this high). >=20 > Obviously reinstalling the entire OS / Applications is not really a optio= n.=20 > We may want to install a dedicated 40GB just for swap... Would this be=20 > advisable, or will it actually slow the system down? And to what extend? You can't use more than 32GB in a single device on i386. It shouldn't cause problems, but unless you have the expectation of making use of it, it is wasted space. One use is that having more swap than RAM is necessary if you ever run into a kernel panic, so that you'll be able to dump the image of the system for developers to try to diagnose the problem. Since it's a pain to add swap later you want to make allowances for future expansion (e.g. you'd need 32GB of swap if you ever plan to add 32GB of RAM). Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCd+L2Wry0BWjoQKURAmrHAJ4vUTm4YNeJdyEMD7IdniJwyir3bQCePC5Y KAFLdjqn40nYs8dkxF06enI= =kPt/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:02:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C9816A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:02:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB6A43D54 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:02:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DT4Wy-0004J0-Eq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:02:12 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) In-Reply-To: <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-Id: From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:02:11 -0600 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:02:19 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Since it's a pain to add swap later you want to make > allowances for future expansion (e.g. you'd need 32GB of swap if you > ever plan to add 32GB of RAM). I understand that people recommend as much swap as you have ram or more. However, is this required and why? I have a dual opteron system running i386 5.3-release (with released patches) and it has 4GB RAM and only 2GB of swap, which is hardly ever touched, and when it is, just in small amounts. Why is this a problem? (If it ever needs the 2gb of swap I am in trouble as the load at that time would be sky high and the machine not really responsive anyway) best Chad > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:07:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DBA16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:07:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0527E43D78 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:07:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a185.otenet.gr [212.205.215.185]) j43L6FOA030633; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:06:16 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j43L7bf0066973; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:07:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j43KxGTX063648; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:59:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 23:59:15 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nicholas Henry Message-ID: <20050503205915.GA16309@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW custom rules file not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:07:49 -0000 On 2005-05-03 15:18, Nicholas Henry wrote: > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: firewall_enable: not found > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding dis$ > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Flushed all rules. > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Line 3: > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: bad command `ipfw' > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Firewall rules loaded, starting divert daemons: > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: firewall_enable: not found > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: . > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: net.inet.ip.fw.enable: > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: 1 > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: -> > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: 1 > > I'm refering to the "bad command 'ipfw'" line. I'm also concerned > about the "firewall_enable" not found message. It's normal. You're using firewall_type and yet you have written a firewall _script_ in /etc/ipfw.rules. > ** start rc.conf snippet ** > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" > firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.rules" > firewall_quiet="NO" > firewall_logging="NO" > firewall_flags="" > ** send rc.conf snippet ** Your firewall_type points to a pathname, so the file should contain rules in the form: check-state add allow tcp from any to any 80 keep-state add block ip from any to any > ** start ipfw.rules ** > > #!/bin/sh > # Flush out the list before we begin. > ipfw -q -f flush > > # Set rules command prefix > cmd="ipfw -q add" > skip="skipto 801" > pif="fxp0" #found by doing a ifconfig or netstat -nr > # public interface name of NIC Your ipfw.rules file is written in the form of a firewall_script. The difference between the two is small but important. A firewall_type file contains just a set of rules that ipfw(8) will parse, without intervention by a shell. A firewall_script is executed by the /bin/sh shell, as a normal shell script. One example of what can be used as a firewall_script is /etc/rc.firewall (in pre-5.X versions) or /etc/rc.d/ipfw (in FreeBSD 5.X or later). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:07:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA6016A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:07:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E14C43D46 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:07:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A52255132A; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:07:43 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Message-ID: <20050503210743.GA11371@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:07:50 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:02:11PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >=20 > On May 3, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >Since it's a pain to add swap later you want to make > >allowances for future expansion (e.g. you'd need 32GB of swap if you > >ever plan to add 32GB of RAM). >=20 > I understand that people recommend as much swap as you have ram or =20 > more. However, is this required and why? I have a dual opteron =20 > system running i386 5.3-release (with released patches) and it has =20 > 4GB RAM and only 2GB of swap, which is hardly ever touched, and when =20 > it is, just in small amounts. >=20 > Why is this a problem? (If it ever needs the 2gb of swap I am in =20 > trouble as the load at that time would be sky high and the machine =20 > not really responsive anyway) I explained in my email..you need it to dump the kernel. Kris --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCd+gfWry0BWjoQKURArWbAJ0W3xnrRctB4npMzuEYyLwqe8hKRgCfd5GA +0lKhdiypqQwcEdJlPWwQlY= =6/Uo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:08:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D346716A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:08:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8943B43D7C for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:08:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 67C5D153882; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:08:19 -1000 (HST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:08:19 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Message-ID: <20050503210818.GA13135@tikitechnologies.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:08:25 -0000 On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:02:11PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > On May 3, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >Since it's a pain to add swap later you want to make > >allowances for future expansion (e.g. you'd need 32GB of swap if you > >ever plan to add 32GB of RAM). > > I understand that people recommend as much swap as you have ram or > more. However, is this required and why? It's needed if you want to be able to collect a crash dump if the system panics. > I have a dual opteron > system running i386 5.3-release (with released patches) and it has > 4GB RAM and only 2GB of swap, which is hardly ever touched, and when > it is, just in small amounts. That's as it should be! > Why is this a problem? (If it ever needs the 2gb of swap I am in > trouble as the load at that time would be sky high and the machine > not really responsive anyway) Yes indeed, you do not want to be running your system with full swap. You want it only for emergencies. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@tikitechnologies.com Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect "I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide..." -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:10:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B0416A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6A343D1D for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:10:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35F93D42 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:09:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:09:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4277B05A.23926.1EA6293@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: fatal trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:10:02 -0000 Hi folks. My gateway has been getting this a few times a day for the past few days. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode More detail at http://www.langille.org/tmp/fatal-trap-12.txt Conversations to date indicate a hardware problem. Any recommendations/suggestions? -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ NEW brochure available at http://www.bsdcan.org/2005/advocacy/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:16:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5390616A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:16:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1816043D7E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:15:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DT4kF-000515-CN; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:15:55 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20050503210743.GA11371@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050503210743.GA11371@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Message-Id: <2491CCFD-B6DD-4A29-8023-9E46891DC7A2@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:15:54 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:16:00 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:02:11PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net > LLC wrote: > >> >> On May 3, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>> Since it's a pain to add swap later you want to make >>> allowances for future expansion (e.g. you'd need 32GB of swap if you >>> ever plan to add 32GB of RAM). >>> >> >> I understand that people recommend as much swap as you have ram or >> more. However, is this required and why? I have a dual opteron >> system running i386 5.3-release (with released patches) and it has >> 4GB RAM and only 2GB of swap, which is hardly ever touched, and when >> it is, just in small amounts. >> >> Why is this a problem? (If it ever needs the 2gb of swap I am in >> trouble as the load at that time would be sky high and the machine >> not really responsive anyway) >> > > I explained in my email..you need it to dump the kernel. > Thanks! Well, on my production system, I am not dumping any kernels. Once It crashes, I reboot it and go back into production. Anything dumped would get wiped out. Luckily I am pretty conservative and only move to new versions of the OS when they have been released a while and so my machines have not had panics in years. Thanks Chad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:16:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8ADF16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:16:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5044343D2F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:15:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) id j43LD0iJ025490; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j43LCwXZ012628; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:12:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:12:57 -0400 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:16:25 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > On May 3, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Since it's a pain to add swap later you want to make >> allowances for future expansion (e.g. you'd need 32GB of swap if you >> ever plan to add 32GB of RAM). > > I understand that people recommend as much swap as you have ram or > more. However, is this required and why? I have a dual opteron > system running i386 5.3-release (with released patches) and it has 4GB > RAM and only 2GB of swap, which is hardly ever touched, and when it > is, just in small amounts. It's not required, but the system can't write a panic crash dump out unless there is slightly more swap space available than RAM in the box. If your system doesn't crash, and your workload fits into RAM, having gigabytes of swap space set up is not very useful.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:21:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAD316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:21:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734FB43D64 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:21:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 317FE5133E; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:20:59 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Message-ID: <20050503212059.GA23694@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050503210743.GA11371@xor.obsecurity.org> <2491CCFD-B6DD-4A29-8023-9E46891DC7A2@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2491CCFD-B6DD-4A29-8023-9E46891DC7A2@shire.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:21:06 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:15:54PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >=20 > On May 3, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:02:11PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net =20 > >LLC wrote: > > > >> > >>On May 3, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> > >>>Since it's a pain to add swap later you want to make > >>>allowances for future expansion (e.g. you'd need 32GB of swap if you > >>>ever plan to add 32GB of RAM). > >>> > >> > >>I understand that people recommend as much swap as you have ram or > >>more. However, is this required and why? I have a dual opteron > >>system running i386 5.3-release (with released patches) and it has > >>4GB RAM and only 2GB of swap, which is hardly ever touched, and when > >>it is, just in small amounts. > >> > >>Why is this a problem? (If it ever needs the 2gb of swap I am in > >>trouble as the load at that time would be sky high and the machine > >>not really responsive anyway) > >> > > > >I explained in my email..you need it to dump the kernel. > > >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Well, on my production system, I am not dumping any kernels. Once It =20 > crashes, I reboot it and go back into production. Anything dumped =20 > would get wiped out. Luckily I am pretty conservative and only move =20 > to new versions of the OS when they have been released a while and so =20 > my machines have not had panics in years. It's up to you, of course, but it's been my experience that you might regret the small expenditure of a few gigabytes one day when you do run into a panic you need help to solve... Kris --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCd+s6Wry0BWjoQKURAhpNAJoDtJHWmJltmzmA0hVxG/MfYWTGXQCeJ0oi P4YU3+Wy5joMeTBUamlJlHQ= =cXAY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:21:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855C016A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:21:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E874A43D6A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050503212113.IROR4191.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:21:13 -0400 From: To: "Nicholas Henry" , Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:21:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: RE: IPFW custom rules file not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:21:21 -0000 You did not follow handbook instruction close enough. Your rc.conf statements are not correct. Use the ones from the handbook just like they are printed. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nicholas Henry Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:18 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IPFW custom rules file not loading FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 I'm a new BSD user installing the OS for the first time. Everything is running well except the firewall. IPFW is not loading the custom rules set I have created at startup/boot (although it does say it has but when I ipfw list it only gives me the one default rule). I assume it is related to this area that I received on the console: May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: firewall_enable: not found May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding dis$ May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Flushed all rules. May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Line 3: May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: bad command `ipfw' May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Firewall rules loaded, starting divert daemons: May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: firewall_enable: not found May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: . May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: net.inet.ip.fw.enable: May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: 1 May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: -> May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: 1 I'm refering to the "bad command 'ipfw'" line. I'm also concerned about the "firewall_enable" not found message. I have included the relevant rc.conf setting and the custom rules file (based on the ruleset from the handbook). I'm currently setting up a firewall for this machine that is connected to a D-Link router. My questions are: Why am I getting the bad command msg? Do I need to be concerned about the "firewall_enabled: not found" Any help would be much appreciated, thank you. ** start rc.conf snippet ** firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.rules" firewall_quiet="NO" firewall_logging="NO" firewall_flags="" ** send rc.conf snippet ** ** start ipfw.rules ** #!/bin/sh # Flush out the list before we begin. ipfw -q -f flush # Set rules command prefix cmd="ipfw -q add" skip="skipto 801" pif="fxp0" #found by doing a ifconfig or netstat -nr # public interface name of NIC ################################################################# # No restrictions on Inside LAN Interface for private network # Change xl0 to your LAN NIC interface name ################################################################# # $cmd 005 allow all from any to any via xl0 # don't have a separate interface so won't worry about this ################################################################# # No restrictions on Loopback Interface ################################################################# $cmd 010 allow all from any to any via lo0 ################################################################# # check if packet is inbound and nat address if it is ################################################################# # $cmd 014 divert natd ip from any to any in via $pif ################################################################# # Allow the packet through if it has previous been added to the # the "dynamic" rules table by a allow keep-state statement. ################################################################# $cmd 015 check-state ################################################################# # Interface facing Public Internet (Outbound Section) # Interrogate session start requests originating from behind the # firewall on the private network or from this gateway server # destine for the public Internet. ################################################################# # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server. # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file $cmd 020 $skip tcp from any to 24.153.22.67 53 out via $pif setup keep-state $cmd 020 $skip tcp from any to 24.153.22.66 53 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out access to my ISP's DHCP server for cable/DSL configurations. # This is for the internal router $cmd 030 $skip udp from any to 198.168.1.1 67 out via $pif keep-state # Allow out non-secure standard www function $cmd 040 $skip tcp from any to any 80 out via $pif setup keep-state $cmd 040 $skip tcp from any to any 8989 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out secure www function https over TLS SSL $cmd 050 $skip tcp from any to any 443 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out send & get email function $cmd 060 $skip tcp from any to any 25 out via $pif setup keep-state $cmd 061 $skip tcp from any to any 110 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out FreeBSD (make install & CVSUP) functions # Basically give user root "GOD" privileges. $cmd 070 $skip tcp from me to any out via $pif setup keep-state uid root # Allow out ping $cmd 080 $skip icmp from any to any out via $pif keep-state # Allow out Time $cmd 090 $skip tcp from any to any 37 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out nntp news (i.e. news groups) $cmd 100 $skip tcp from any to any 119 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP # This function is using SSH (secure shell) $cmd 110 $skip tcp from any to any 22 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow out whois $cmd 120 $skip tcp from any to any 43 out via $pif setup keep-state # Allow ntp time server $cmd 130 $skip udp from any to any 123 out via $pif keep-state ################################################################# # Interface facing Public Internet (Inbound Section) # Interrogate packets originating from the public Internet # destine for this gateway server or the private network. ################################################################# # Deny all inbound traffic from non-routable reserved address spaces #$cmd 300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $pif #RFC 1918 #private IP #$cmd 301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $pif #RFC 1918 #private IP #$cmd 302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif #RFC 1918 #private IP #$cmd 303 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif #loopback #$cmd 304 deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any in via $pif #loopback #$cmd 305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $pif #DHCP #auto-config #$cmd 306 deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any in via $pif #reserved for #docs #$cmd 307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $pif #Sun cluster #$cmd 308 deny all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in via $pif #Class D & E #multicast # Deny ident $cmd 315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $pif # Deny all Netbios service. 137=name, 138=datagram, 139=session # Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. # Block MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 $cmd 320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $pif $cmd 321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $pif $cmd 322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $pif $cmd 323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $pif # Deny any late arriving packets $cmd 330 deny all from any to any frag in via $pif # Deny ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table $cmd 332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $pif # Allow traffic in from ISP's DHCP server. This rule must contain # the IP address of your ISP's DHCP server as it's the only # authorized source to send this packet type. # Only necessary for cable or DSL configurations. # This rule is not needed for 'user ppp' type connection to # the public Internet. This is the same IP address you captured # and used in the outbound section. $cmd 360 allow udp from 24.153.23.66 to any 68 in via $pif keep-state $cmd 360 allow udp from 24.153.23.67 to any 68 in via $pif keep-state # Allow in standard www function because I have Apache server $cmd 370 allow tcp from any to me 80 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 $cmd 370 allow tcp from any to me 8989 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 # Allow in secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP from public Internet $cmd 380 allow tcp from any to me 22 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 # Allow in non-secure Telnet session from public Internet # labeled non-secure because ID & PW are passed over public # Internet as clear text. # Delete this sample group if you do not have telnet server enabled. $cmd 390 allow tcp from any to me 23 in via $pif setup limit src-addr 2 # Reject & Log all unauthorized incoming connections from the public Internet $cmd 400 deny log all from any to any in via $pif # Reject & Log all unauthorized out going connections to the public Internet $cmd 450 deny log all from any to any out via $pif # This is skipto location for outbound stateful rules # $cmd 800 divert natd ip from any to any out via $pif $cmd 801 allow ip from any to any # Everything else is denied by default # deny and log all packets that fell through to see what they are $cmd 999 deny log all from any to any ** end ipfw.rules ** _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:29:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639EA16A4D1 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:29:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-6.estpak.ee (mail.hot.ee [194.126.101.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480F143D86 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:29:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lauri@bitifarm.ee) Received: from aparaat (213-219-88-83-dsl.lsn.estpak.ee [213.219.88.83]) by MXR-6.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C391AC9FD for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:29:40 +0300 (EEST) From: "Lauri Anteploon / ctrl-L" To: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:29:40 +0300 Organization: =?windows-1250?Q?O=DC_Bitifarm?= Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C55040.5C831270" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcVQJza5JPMvX1cnSY6uvVhBrkwnKw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at hot.ee X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: make installworld (remotely) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:29:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C55040.5C831270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. Im running FreeBSD 5.3-Release #0 and would like to do buildworld and buildkernel. The problem is that the machine is a remote one. Handbook states that to run "mergemaster" and "make installworld" I should boot into single user mode. That would mean that I can't access the machine remotely anymore am I correct? Would it be okey to run make installworld when running in multiuser mode and being the only person whos logged on and maby shutting down most of the network services (leaving my sshd running though) ? Lauri Anteploon HYPERLINK "mailto:lauri@bitifarm.ee"lauri@bitifarm.ee 5056999 HYPERLINK "http://www.bitifarm.ee/" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 2.05.2005 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C55040.5C831270-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:30:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F2A16A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:30:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC6443D7F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:30:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DT4xz-0005c1-Kz; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:30:07 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20050503212059.GA23694@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000601c5500e$85b4f3c0$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050503204542.GB10776@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050503210743.GA11371@xor.obsecurity.org> <2491CCFD-B6DD-4A29-8023-9E46891DC7A2@shire.net> <20050503212059.GA23694@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Message-Id: From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:30:06 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:30:14 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:15:54PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net > LLC wrote: > >> Thanks! >> >> Well, on my production system, I am not dumping any kernels. Once It >> crashes, I reboot it and go back into production. Anything dumped >> would get wiped out. Luckily I am pretty conservative and only move >> to new versions of the OS when they have been released a while and so >> my machines have not had panics in years. >> > > It's up to you, of course, but it's been my experience that you might > regret the small expenditure of a few gigabytes one day when you do > run into a panic you need help to solve... > Of course, now that I have mentioned it, my luck will change and something bad will happen. I am not running cheap large IDE disks, but expensive fast high performance U320 disks on RAID controllers and so the extra GB does cost something. If I get a repeating panic, I can boot off a recovery disk and add in extra swap I guess. Thanks I always learn a lot here (I just wish someone could help me with the mail submission question I posted) Chad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:31:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3EF16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:31:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FB243D5A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:31:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j43LVIpS025974; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:31:19 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:31:35 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505031431.36179.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Michael Neeff cc: freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:31:45 -0000 On Monday 02 May 2005 08:42 pm, Michael Neeff wrote: > when I try to mount the CD using the below it says: cd9660 /dev/acd0 > Input / Output error > > Thanks! > > >From: Lowell Gilbert > >To: "Michael Neeff" > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM > >Date: 02 May 2005 16:07:45 -0400 > > > > > I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other > > > combinations : > > > mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 > > > /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... > > > >What "same thing"? What does it say when you type that? > >Does anything get printed in the log? My /etc/fstab on 4-stable has /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 On 5-stable it is /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Since I have a directory called /cdrom, all I have to do is say "mount /cdrom". When I play a CDROM is have kscd setup to play the /dev/adc0.., which depends on the version of the OS. Kent > > > > > >-- > >Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:38:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D0916A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:38:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B4743D41 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:38:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050503213845.FFXV17140.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:38:45 -0400 From: To: "Vittorio" , Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:38:44 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200505032235.49979.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: RE: Problems with user ppp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:38:51 -0000 Log has this ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  PRIDNS[6] 10.155.201.22 which means your ISP has handed you ip 10.155.201.22 is dsn server. you say first line in /etc/resolv.conf is 10.255.201.22 Are you sure you posted the correct stuff here. that number is to close not to be typo. Try deleting contents of /var/log/ppp.log and /etc/resolve.conf and restart user-ppp to get good documented test. Looks to me as your user ppp is functioning correctly. Your firewall is not allowing out port 53 to ip 10.155.201.22 is more likely cause of your problem. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Vittorio Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:36 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with user ppp On my PC with the latest freebsd 5.4 I'm trying to connect to my ISP "alice" by means of user ppp. Here is my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: # default:  set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command  ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)  set device /dev/cuaa0  set speed 115200  set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \            \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"  set timeout 180                        # 3 minute idle timer (the default) alice:  #  # edit the next three lines and replace the items in caps with  # the values which have been assigned by your ISP.  #  set phone "7020803380"  set authname "pippolino@tin.it"  set authkey "nonteladico"  set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0  add default HISADDR                    # Add a (sticky) default route  enable dns                             # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) AND in /etc/ppp/options lock noauth Launching "ppp -background alice" I can connect with my ISP but ..... names are not resolved because PPP doesn't get the DNSs provided by the peer and uses the first DNS server in in /etc/resolv.conf ,10.255.201.22, of a previous dhcp connection at office. Here it is an extract of the connection log: .................................................................... ............. ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = CHAP 0x05, mine = none ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes from apx-rm5) ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (pippolino@tin.it) ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: SUCCESS ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: Using trigger address 0.0.0.0 ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: LayerStart. ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: MPPE: Not usable without CHAP81 ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Closed ppp[505]: tun0: CCP:  DEFLATE[4] win 15 ppp[505]: tun0: CCP:  PRED1[2] ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open ppp[505]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerStart. ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Closed ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  PRIDNS[6] 10.155.201.22                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6] 80.21.255.5 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(1) state = Req-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6] 80.21.255.5 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvProtocolRej(3) state = Opened ppp[505]: tun0: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x80fd (Compression Control Protocol) ppp[505]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(1) state = Ack-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6] 212.216.149.154 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6] changing address: 0.0.0.0  --> 212.216.149.154 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  PRIDNS[6] 10.155.201.22                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.155.201.22 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state = Ack-Sent ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6] 212.216.149.154 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  PRIDNS[6] 10.155.201.22 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP:  SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2) state = Ack-Sent .................................................................... ............... What should I do? Vittorio _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:40:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C5416A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:40:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9509243D79 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:40:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BE81F5133E; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:40:51 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Lauri Anteploon / ctrl-L Message-ID: <20050503214051.GA28088@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make installworld (remotely) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:40:56 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 12:29:40AM +0300, Lauri Anteploon / ctrl-L wrote: > Hi. > Im running FreeBSD 5.3-Release #0 and would like to do buildworld and > buildkernel. > The problem is that the machine is a remote one. > Handbook states that to run "mergemaster" and "make installworld" I should > boot into single user mode. > That would mean that I can't access the machine remotely anymore am I > correct? > =20 > Would it be okey to run make installworld when running in multiuser mode = and > being the only person whos logged on and maby shutting down most of the > network services (leaving my sshd running though) ? It's possible to do this if everything goes 100% right, but if not then you'll be left without a usable machine. You really want a serial console (and remotely-accessible power controller) for remote machines, so you can recover them even if you make a mistake. Kris --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCd+/jWry0BWjoQKURAsLlAJwIysAcWUBH/9bXBXfZ/Grpzcq5qQCbBEne KsO3tUu8u6l/FfEf779AQ00= =Ery0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 22:10:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA75416A4D1 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:10:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx14.yandex.ru (mx14.yandex.ru [213.180.200.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30F343D5C for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:10:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from i-love-spam@yandex.ru) Received: from ip214-179.tor.istop.com ([66.11.179.214]:35076 "EHLO [192.168.0.1]" smtp-auth: "i-love-spam" TLS-CIPHER: "RC4-MD5 keybits 128/128 version TLSv1/SSLv3" TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S1782790AbVECWKl (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 May 2005 02:10:41 +0400 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at mx14.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: i-love-spam Message-ID: <4277F704.8060602@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:11:16 -0400 From: pps User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Language/codepage trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:10:56 -0000 Hello, I've been having alot of problems with encodings/language etc. In short, there's no such problem on winXP - in control panel/Reagional and Language Options I set this options: Standards and Formats (locale): English Language for non-unicode programs: Russian and I'd like to get the same functionality on my freebsd, but I only got a ton of problems :) In short, all I want is to have a usual english freebsd (with kde in english etc) but all 8-bit texts would be trated the same way they are treated on russian freebsd. It's easy to get the second thing - set lang=ru in ~/.login_conf or some other way to set env["LANG"], but it makes everything f**ked up - all kde and other apps become in russian, which I don't need! It seemed like setting default charset would solve the problem, but setting charset=CP1251 in ~/.login_conf doesn't solve this problems - it doesn't have any effect. Is there any way I can do what I want? I tried to hack default locale files in en_US.ISO8859-1 long time ago and I think I made something bad. Is there a way to remove entire directory /usr/share/locale and then reinstal it? Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 22:20:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A698716A4D0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:20:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0249843D76 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:20:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 3 May 2005 23:20:40 +0100 Message-ID: <4277F910.70601@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:20:00 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050501 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lauri Anteploon / ctrl-L References: <20050503214051.GA28088@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050503214051.GA28088@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 22:20:40.0299 (UTC) FILETIME=[56AF8BB0:01C5502E] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make installworld (remotely) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:20:15 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 12:29:40AM +0300, Lauri Anteploon / ctrl-L wrote: > > >>Would it be okey to run make installworld when running in multiuser mode and >>being the only person whos logged on and maby shutting down most of the >>network services (leaving my sshd running though) ? >> >> > >It's possible to do this if everything goes 100% right, but if not >then you'll be left without a usable machine. You really want a >serial console (and remotely-accessible power controller) for remote >machines, so you can recover them even if you make a mistake. > > Or a machine which can boot off a network disk. The you can boot off the network, mount your local disks and fix the problems. If you can boot off a network disk, you might even be able to run installworld, but you'd have to figure out how to make it install into something like /mnt/usr instead of /usr. Someone else will have to tell you if that's possible. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 22:29:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBF316A4CF for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:29:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF08843D8E for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:29:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so18282nzk for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:28:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UP1EcQFDiNY/4XcgC+VEVnahTicRy0zFKxGB18GWMrgZtHJsf4+DUupkQu3J9L2HcL7CCGxacNP4KipFEN7c3gBaEYLOsdeD4K5cjE4XvCc5sdPWw6oppT6JgCdc92Be37DzfPGTydHYYN9MR92rNk2idVVyWyDbfq9V5VOMuek= Received: by 10.36.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr777488nzb; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.48.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <810a540e05050315287b90e8aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:28:58 -0600 From: Pat Maddox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: make installworld (remotely) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pat Maddox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:29:05 -0000 http://layer0.layeredtech.com/showthread.php?t=3D2 Walks you through upgrading remotely. On 5/3/05, Lauri Anteploon / ctrl-L wrote: > Hi. > Im running FreeBSD 5.3-Release #0 and would like to do buildworld and > buildkernel. > The problem is that the machine is a remote one. > Handbook states that to run "mergemaster" and "make installworld" I shoul= d > boot into single user mode. > That would mean that I can't access the machine remotely anymore am I > correct? >=20 > Would it be okey to run make installworld when running in multiuser mode = and > being the only person whos logged on and maby shutting down most of the > network services (leaving my sshd running though) ? >=20 > Lauri Anteploon > HYPERLINK "mailto:lauri@bitifarm.ee"lauri@bitifarm.ee > 5056999 >=20 > HYPERLINK "http://www.bitifarm.ee/" >=20 > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 2.05.2005 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 22:39:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813C616A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:39:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E109043D3F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050503223909.JWZJ17140.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:39:09 -0400 From: To: "Lauri Anteploon / ctrl-L" , Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 18:39:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: RE: make installworld (remotely) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:39:15 -0000 Doing a remote buildworld is just too dangerous for an production box and expensive in backups because you have all the source files to deal with. The more popular method of updating a remote system is to have an local development box that has same components and do a fresh install to a empty ata hard drive and them ship new HD to remote site and swap for old one. If needed, you recover by swapping old one back in. Or another popular way is after populating new HD, build an bootable system on a cdrom then ship cdrom to remote site and swap that. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Lauri Anteploon / ctrl-L Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:30 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: make installworld (remotely) Hi. Im running FreeBSD 5.3-Release #0 and would like to do buildworld and buildkernel. The problem is that the machine is a remote one. Handbook states that to run "mergemaster" and "make installworld" I should boot into single user mode. That would mean that I can't access the machine remotely anymore am I correct? Would it be okey to run make installworld when running in multiuser mode and being the only person whos logged on and maby shutting down most of the network services (leaving my sshd running though) ? Lauri Anteploon HYPERLINK "mailto:lauri@bitifarm.ee"lauri@bitifarm.ee 5056999 HYPERLINK "http://www.bitifarm.ee/" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 2.05.2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 22:59:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8060616A4D0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:59:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F3743D54 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1759042wra for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:59:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Cnd2JLSSjDpnVvSzjiHJxIuHOshEx9LY8WSxHd+cYCjWrbkwM9XeYhPdaNLe1w4NhEIuZ2b6NfhcMbKVQoGlUlguongRvM1SbKJ1+72wjeZTle5ieILRnu0JlVDXmQljlm/FcMzospbezLDYnDTQEGotwQn92azPFoRsHexL+54= Received: by 10.54.114.18 with SMTP id m18mr1355256wrc; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <781e2bc00505031559329d3c88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:59:20 -0700 From: Benjamin Keating To: Xian In-Reply-To: <200504291302.17532.ian@codepad.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1295756504.20050429155217@mail.ru> <200504291302.17532.ian@codepad.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS mounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Keating List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:59:26 -0000 So putting NFs mounts in the background, via fstab would look like this(?): nfs.myserver.com:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs rw,-b 0 0 (is the -b in the right place? I don't have a test environment to check this setting) Thanks! - bpk On 4/29/05, Xian wrote: > On Friday 29 April 2005 12:52, Vyacheslav Druzhinin wrote: > > Hello freebsd-questions, > > > > I've added the nfs mounting point on my workstation to the /etc/fstab > > like this: nfs.myserver.com:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs 0 0 > > > > When nfs.myserver.com is reachable everything is ok. But if > > nfs.myserver.com is down my workstation can't startup and hangs on > > at boot screen until nfs.myserver.com become up. > > > > Is it possible to skeep the mounting of nfs volume when nfs server > > is not reachable? > > > > > > With best regards, [MCP, MCSD] > > Vyacheslav mailto:dvg_lab@mail.ru > > Origin: <--=3D<< DVG_Lab >>=3D--> > > >=20 > The bg option would background the mount and it would try every minute ti= ll it > works. man mount_nfs explains all. >=20 > -- > /Xian >=20 > "Kind words can be short and easy to speek but their echos are truly endl= ess" > Mother Theresa > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 23:10:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFC116A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:10:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tco2.iaminsane.net (dsl017-004-081.ser1.dsl.speakeasy.net [69.17.4.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F2943D5C for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rem@thecompanyonline.com) Received: from [10.50.30.140] ([216.109.255.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by tco2.iaminsane.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j43MrE9V019857 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:53:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rem@thecompanyonline.com) Message-ID: <427804CE.2000107@thecompanyonline.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:10:06 -0400 From: Richard Mcintyre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sendmail with sasl2 build fails. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:10:16 -0000 All, I've checked the mailing lists and it appears that this has been a problem for other people in the past, but I can't seem to fix the issue I'm having. I have installed cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd from ports. I then added the following to /etc/make.conf: # SASL (cyrus-sasl v2) sendmail build flags... SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS+= -L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD+= -lsasl2 # Adding to enable alternate port (smtps) for sendmail... SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL Then, I attempted to rebuild sendmail, I have tried both of the following steps... First I tried: # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail # make clean # make depend # make # make install When that failed I tried: # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm # make obj # make depend # make # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil # make obj # make depend # make # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail # make obj # make depend # make # make install Finally when that failed I tried: # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm # make clean # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil # make clean # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail # make clean # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm # make obj # make depend # make # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil # make obj # make depend # make # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail # make obj # make depend # make # make install All return the same problem at the make on /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail... cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/version.c make: don't know how to make /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop Can anyone help out? Thanks in advance... ~REM tco1# uname -a FreeBSD tco1.iaminsane.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Mon May 2 22:32:50 EDT 2005 rem@tco1.iaminsane.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/TCO1.2005.05.02.001 i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 23:13:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EC716A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:13:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.muttart.org (mx.muttart.org [66.18.201.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AA143D64 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cburchell@muttart.org) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:13:47 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: unary operator expected thread-index: AcVQNU7FgWqCpJxPRHWmJ9nb9ParugAADAxg From: "Chris Burchell" To: Subject: unary operator expected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:13:53 -0000 Hello: I'm working with a script written for Linux that has the following lines: # Check that networking is up. [ ${NETWORKING} =3D "no" ] && exit 0 Everything else in the script works okay, but this one bombs with the following error: line 35: [: =3D: unary operator expected Can anyone help with suggestions or an alternate statement that will work on FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE? Thanks, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 23:16:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB1216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:16:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC7043D53 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:16:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05405355pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.81.66.212]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005050323160501400kp140e>; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:16:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 87204 invoked from network); 3 May 2005 23:16:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.236?) (192.168.1.236) by fw.home with SMTP; 3 May 2005 23:16:04 -0000 Message-ID: <42780631.8050301@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:16:01 -0400 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IPFW uid filtering (UID) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:16:12 -0000 I have OpenVPN listening on an interface on UDP 1194. It drops to openvpn:openvpn after it opens the socket. sockstat confirms this. When I add a rule to allow packets in on udp 1194 with uid openvpn, they don't match. The rule is: 1340 allow udp from any to me 1194 in recv dc0 uid openvpn When I take out "uid openvpn", the packets match. When it's there, they don't. Am I doing something wrong? BTW, the same goes for the outgoing rule. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 23:20:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2802A16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:20:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D6343D90 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:20:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so2270wra for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WN9HXYuYeG0Dl5K3xfCwRUMbN0lzLWh72HiA4UCY0eTHQ33ddmOZZghCcmIlFC5qiCNKBxgbyuuodb8BqXMWkwYfQjcH3M1RHKzRQ1rHBU4Rr4T5NOWtLjacevDs5FfGDoVE6RXqCsPKFIckGUmvEWxlAEXOFix0k+ezQQXoAV8= Received: by 10.54.114.13 with SMTP id m13mr7432wrc; Tue, 03 May 2005 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <781e2bc005050316203aeeb099@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:20:42 -0700 From: Benjamin Keating To: Doug Poland In-Reply-To: <20050308143538.GA29822@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050308083719.GA8400@mccme.ru> <20050308143538.GA29822@polands.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" Subject: Re: mutt working throu NFS only in read-only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Keating List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:20:47 -0000 You can also omit the client-side lockd and statd options if you include the `-L` option when mounting the NFS export (man mount_nfs, nfsd) - bpk On 3/8/05, Doug Poland wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 11:37:19AM +0300, Eugene M. Minkovskii wrote: > > Hello, I have some trouble in NFS configure. I need to read mail > > through NFS. So I say on the server: > > > ...snip... > > > > System: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 (i386) [using ncurses 5.2] > > > On FreeBSD 5.x you need to run rpc lockd and statd on both the client > and server. Here's snippets from /etc/rc.conf on my boxes: >=20 > client: > nfs_client_enable=3D"YES" > rpc_lockd_enable=3D"YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for > rpc_statd_enable=3D"YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for >=20 > server: > nfs_server_flags=3D"-u -n 10" > nfs_server_enable=3D"YES" > rpc_lockd_enable=3D"YES" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for > rpc_statd_enable=3D"YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for >=20 > Implement those changes, reboot (or restart daemons), and you should be > good to go. >=20 > -- > Regards, > Doug > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 23:26:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E5016A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:26:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5CE43D67 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:26:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 10EB3153882; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:26:45 -1000 (HST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:26:44 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Chris Burchell Message-ID: <20050503232643.GB13135@tikitechnologies.com> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Burchell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unary operator expected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:26:47 -0000 On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:13:47PM -0600, Chris Burchell wrote: > I'm working with a script written for Linux that has the following > lines: > > # Check that networking is up. > [ ${NETWORKING} = "no" ] && exit 0 I don't think it's a Linux/BSD issue. This line won't work in sh if NETWORKING is unset. Then you get (after parameter expansion) [ = "no" ] && exit 0 which fails the syntax check. I suspect "NETWORKING" always happened to be set in the Linux environment you were running it under, or perhaps you were using a different shell. > Can anyone help with suggestions or an alternate statement that will > work on FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE? One time-honored idiom is: [ "X${NETWORKING}" = "Xno" ] && exit 0 or you can just make sure that NETWORKING always gets set to some value. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@tikitechnologies.com Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect "I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide..." -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 23:30:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B3216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:30:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.bizopz.com (internet.bizopz.com [69.20.70.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCB243D68 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:30:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.schneider@daumcommercial.com) Received: from DG49S331 (host-66-59-224-253.lcinet.net [66.59.224.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by internet.bizopz.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j43NUNJk013192 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john.schneider@daumcommercial.com) From: "John Schneider" To: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:30:24 -0700 Message-ID: <003001c55038$182b51d0$6525250a@DG49S331> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: php4-4.3.11 Port Question (mime_magic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:30:37 -0000 Newbie question, apologize in advance if I missed something obvious. I = also apologize if this is not the best forum for questions on specific ports. = I installed the port php4-4.3.11. The purpose of using this port to = ugprade my working php4 install, was to be able to the horde 3.0 framework (www.horde.org). Everything looks fine, but a test.php file in my horde setup reports that mime_magic is not installed. Everything I read says that mime_magic is installed by default with = recent versions of php4. I'm not sure why the port version of php4 hasn't = installed it, or how to specify it as a make option (I'm not even sure if this is possible via the ports). Any help or general guideance would be very much appreciate. Thanks in advance. - John HERE IS THE REPORT FROM MY HORDE TEST.PHP FILE: Horde Version * Horde: 3.0.4 Horde Applications * Horde: 3.0.4 * Imp: H3 (4.0.3) (run Imp tests) PHP Version * View phpinfo() screen * View loaded extensions * PHP Version: 4.3.11 * PHP Major Version: 4.3 * PHP Minor Version: 11 * PHP Version Classification: release * You are running a supported version of PHP. PHP Module Capabilities * Ctype Support: No * DOM XML Support: Yes * FTP Support: Yes * GD Support: Yes * Gettext Support: Yes * Iconv Support: Yes * IMAP Support: Yes * LDAP Support: No * Mbstring Support: Yes * MCAL Support: No * Mcrypt Support: Yes * MIME Magic Support (fileinfo): No The fileinfo PECL module or the mime_magic PHP extension (see = below) will most likely provide faster MIME Magic lookups than the built-in = Horde PHP magic code. See horde/docs/INSTALL for information on how to install PECL/PHP extensions. * MIME Magic Support (mime_magic): No The fileinfo PECL module (see above) or the mime_magic PHP = extension will most likely provide faster MIME Magic lookups than the built-in = Horde PHP magic code. See horde/docs/INSTALL for information on how to install PECL/PHP extensions. * MySQL Support: Yes * OpenSSL Support: Yes * PostgreSQL Support: No * Session Support: Yes * XML Support: Yes * Zlib Support: Yes Miscellaneous PHP Settings * magic_quotes_runtime disabled: Yes * memory_limit disabled: No If PHP's internal memory limit is turned on and if not set high = enough Horde will not be able to handle large data items (e.g. large mail attachments in IMP). If possible, you should disable the PHP memory = limit by recompiling PHP without the "--enable-memory-limit" flag. If this is not possible, then you should set the value of memory_limit in php.ini to a sufficiently high value (Current value of memory_limit: 24000000). * file_uploads enabled: Yes * safe_mode disabled: Yes * session.use_trans_sid disabled: Yes * session.auto_start disabled: Yes Required Horde Configuration Files * config/conf.php: Yes * config/mime_drivers.php: Yes * config/nls.php: Yes * config/prefs.php: Yes * config/registry.php: Yes PHP Sessions * Session counter: 4 * To unregister the session: click here PEAR * PEAR Search Path (PHP's include_path): /usr/home/daum/www/htdocs/work/horde/lib:/usr/local/lib/php * PEAR: Yes * Recent PEAR: Yes * Mail_RFC822: No Make sure you are using a recent version of PEAR which includes = the Mail_RFC822 class. * Mail_Mime: Yes * Log: Yes * DB: Yes * Net_Socket: Yes * Date: Yes * Auth_SASL: Yes * HTTP_Request: Yes * File: Yes * Net_SMTP: Yes * Services_Weather: Yes Valid XHTML 1.0! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 23:37:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465C316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:37:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zeppo.candhsoftware.com (tcsnapanas19poolc65.tcsn.uswest.net [65.100.103.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7344D43D6B for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:37:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from awc@candhsoftware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([65.125.115.243]) (authenticated bits=0)j43NLHSQ034302; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:21:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from awc@candhsoftware.com) From: "Andy W. Clements" To: Richard Mcintyre In-Reply-To: <427804CE.2000107@thecompanyonline.com> References: <427804CE.2000107@thecompanyonline.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: C & H Software L.L.C. Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:18:31 -0700 Message-Id: <1115162311.692.29.camel@misato.candhsoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail with sasl2 build fails. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: awc@candhsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:37:10 -0000 On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 19:10 -0400, Richard Mcintyre wrote: > I have installed cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd from ports. > > I then added the following to /etc/make.conf: > # SASL (cyrus-sasl v2) sendmail build flags... > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 > SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS+= -L/usr/local/lib > SENDMAIL_LDADD+= -lsasl2 > # Adding to enable alternate port (smtps) for sendmail... > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL > I just went through this same process, however my flags are different than yours: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 But I don't think that is what is causing the error below....continue: > All return the same problem at the make on /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail... > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB > -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS > -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/version.c > make: don't know how to make > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop > > > Can anyone help out? Thanks in advance... > ~REM > I have read somewhere that your source needs to be prestine in order for the compile to work correctly. I pulled the source directly from cvsup just before attempting this manuver and it worked out all right. When did you last retrieve the source? I did it on the same build as you: zeppo:awc# uname -a FreeBSD zeppo.candhsoftware.com 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Does the make at the end of libsmutil show the libsmutil.a file being created? --Andy -- Andy Clements Chief Engineer C & H Software L.L.C. awc@candhsoftware.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 23:51:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5371216A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:51:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tco2.iaminsane.net (dsl017-004-081.ser1.dsl.speakeasy.net [69.17.4.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9371143D3F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:51:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rem@thecompanyonline.com) Received: from [10.50.30.140] ([216.109.255.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by tco2.iaminsane.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j43NYh9V020416 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 3 May 2005 19:34:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rem@thecompanyonline.com) Message-ID: <42780E88.90706@thecompanyonline.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:51:36 -0400 From: Richard Mcintyre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: awc@candhsoftware.com References: <427804CE.2000107@thecompanyonline.com> <1115162311.692.29.camel@misato.candhsoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <1115162311.692.29.camel@misato.candhsoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail with sasl2 build fails. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:51:48 -0000 Andy W. Clements wrote: >On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 19:10 -0400, Richard Mcintyre wrote: > > >>I have installed cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd from ports. >> >>I then added the following to /etc/make.conf: >># SASL (cyrus-sasl v2) sendmail build flags... >>SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 >>SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS+= -L/usr/local/lib >>SENDMAIL_LDADD+= -lsasl2 >># Adding to enable alternate port (smtps) for sendmail... >>SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL >> >> >> > >I just went through this same process, however my flags are different >than yours: > >SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL >SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib >SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 > >But I don't think that is what is causing the error below....continue: > > > >>All return the same problem at the make on /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail... >> >>cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src >>-I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB >>-DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS >>-D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL -c >>/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/version.c >>make: don't know how to make >>/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop >> >> >>Can anyone help out? Thanks in advance... >>~REM >> >> >> > >I have read somewhere that your source needs to be prestine in order for >the compile to work correctly. I pulled the source directly from cvsup >just before attempting this manuver and it worked out all right. When >did you last retrieve the source? > >I did it on the same build as you: > >zeppo:awc# uname -a >FreeBSD zeppo.candhsoftware.com 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri >Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 >root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > >Does the make at the end of libsmutil show the libsmutil.a file being >created? > >--Andy > > > > Actually I have just installed (using diskettes over the network) last night. I am sure that doesn't mean that the src that was downloaded is 100% up todate. I am running a cvsup on src now, hopefully that will correct my problem. PS - Yes the libsmutil.a file was created when running the make in libsmutil. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:00:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB1E16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:00:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B4143D6D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:00:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so10168wra for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:00:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CRqRBB0iScUAV6y1XePs9hkTvZww+n7yTrVfHxK3ssoIJXKmcAWuhdxFL5GJlpeA+bFXFMWhu2wDaVJUK6hKsImgwrvkK6x1nrS9v5UW9mAMlj4nA3u644HDmckpEJFsU0+Ewljii9lx9gPdLgCvTqc6WdwzS5ZXbcnxH0kP9hs= Received: by 10.54.114.5 with SMTP id m5mr5588wrc; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:00:06 -0700 From: Benjamin Keating To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Keating List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 00:00:08 -0000 Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of date. A wiki would be a great way to acheive this. If there isn't a project like it yet, I'd like to propose we set one up. I can contribute quite a bit of time and resources towards this. Save me wiki.freebsd.org and I'll get a move on! - bpk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:01:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB87316A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:01:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E05C43D96 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:01:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05405355pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.81.66.212]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005050400010001100n1ukae>; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:01:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 97889 invoked from network); 4 May 2005 00:01:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.236?) (192.168.1.236) by fw.home with SMTP; 4 May 2005 00:01:00 -0000 Message-ID: <427810B9.6000103@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:00:57 -0400 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42780631.8050301@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <42780631.8050301@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IPFW uid filtering (UDP) (was (UID)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 00:01:03 -0000 subject should read UDP Kris Maglione wrote: > I have OpenVPN listening on an interface on UDP 1194. > It drops to openvpn:openvpn after it opens the socket. sockstat > confirms this. > > When I add a rule to allow packets in on udp 1194 with uid openvpn, > they don't match. > The rule is: > 1340 allow udp from any to me 1194 in recv dc0 uid openvpn > > When I take out "uid openvpn", the packets match. When it's there, > they don't. > > Am I doing something wrong? > > BTW, the same goes for the outgoing rule. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:15:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE5216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:15:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF4D43D6E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:15:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF65051449; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:15:46 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Benjamin Keating Message-ID: <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 00:15:53 -0000 --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:00:06PM -0700, Benjamin Keating wrote: > Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little > more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of > date. What is out of date? Generally, if you want to improve something in the handbook, just submit a PR. Kris --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeBQyWry0BWjoQKURAp8RAJ9CGv7/B9TnnVU3ki42XksOASU9dgCfXm+3 TZD3mQf1r3zoYxiPTbP2xGw= =rUZo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:16:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B3616A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:16:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E506F43D31 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:16:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so13405wra for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:16:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=BMsZ832IBIS1eS13+TOAONNjuXDiVrD37ze9IbRylbatYwrlD2ZVP2nuO9dS80SK+3DGwxxfZmi+azgMrqj0DiDjsXUugcwwajsifUdlsRS6uxHORulF8Ua/yVkF9LcepgkywqWs2aL6/A4uqKOqzciUyWCjyPGyfnfRF5RVI/s= Received: by 10.54.122.7 with SMTP id u7mr6145wrc; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <781e2bc005050317162850f7ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:16:31 -0700 From: Benjamin Keating To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Properly umounting a USB HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Keating List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 00:16:38 -0000 Hey all, I've noticed that a 'umount /mnt/portable' properly umounts the drive like it should, but when I hold the drive in my hand and give it a very gentle horizontal spin with my wrist, the reading head / platter.. something, sounds loose, as if the arm wasn't properly docked. Is there any command in BSD that will allow me to properly shutdown a portable disk? System disks don't have this sound at all but I'm not sure what commands do it. Maybe it's a APIC/APM thing? That stuff is greek to me. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:29:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFFC16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:29:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C174D43D80 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:29:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so15796wra for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:29:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZFOpjwDCoOZIpJOPJCEBNdUqNxFZiFRyYVNb4IZbOpbG6GBUj/P4p6CDXWVHVptW6FVshYlvY2dWJ6oYgaWuQ6sdUhAGZAUcB9ea4WetNlL6VEQUSDxnh9tKdbBXvrjRHmKXdwCMMbkV846/WmotqekQzcqrBcefhqx8ZDr5VMk= Received: by 10.54.106.7 with SMTP id e7mr13616wrc; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:29:14 -0700 From: Benjamin Keating To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Keating List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 00:29:21 -0000 A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). Some parts are out of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that could really help. For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily include a 'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your kernel with IPFIREWALL support. Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. Idon't know about you but I'd rather just add my new found info to the site rather find a PR addy, submit it and wait for it to be added. We have software that does this now. Lets use it! :) - bpk On 5/3/05, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:00:06PM -0700, Benjamin Keating wrote: > > Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little > > more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of > > date. >=20 > What is out of date? >=20 > Generally, if you want to improve something in the handbook, just > submit a PR. >=20 > Kris >=20 >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:48:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A1016A4DD for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:48:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [216.155.111.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E3243D8A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:48:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BF82841F for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chaos.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 94954-02-5 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.150] (c-24-0-74-121.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [24.0.74.121]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEAA2841A for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: Bob Bomar Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:48:00 -0500 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fxp.org Subject: daapd and high load averages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 00:48:12 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am running 5.4-Prerelease with daapd 0.2.3d. I notice that the load average runs right at 1.0, and 0 if daapd is not running. I was just wondering if this was normal. I do have some w4p files in my collection. top: 57525 daapd 126 0 36624K 34356K RUN 345.8H 32.78% 32.78% daapd - - -- Bob Bomar bob@fxp.us http://www.ibsd.us - - --------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeBu29Jm/aTrtdKoRAuShAJ4yb0Q+1+SC6z/HT0CUPdmrTOAP5wCeK1qV fk0kL0yoXkrJNS8CAjqjcO0= =8PpI - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeBvD9Jm/aTrtdKoRAqRgAKCUVTPJ34xZJQ/vDyqhcvdJgd4vCgCfYhU+ tjGOuMyFT3aDGeUnj/HBhhs= =vkTt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:49:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4EF16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:49:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wale.mainframe.ca (wale.mainframe.ca [209.17.131.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011C943D2D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:49:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmacpherson@mainframe.ca) Received: from jupiter.mainframe.ca ([10.0.0.12] helo=mail.mainframe.ca) by wale.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DT858-0002gY-Jl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:49:43 -0700 Received: from [172.16.139.102] (helo=Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca) by mail.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DT858-000Ghc-CH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:49:42 -0700 From: Derrick MacPherson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> References: <1115079191.16530.17.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Mainframe Entertainment Inc Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:49:40 -0700 Message-Id: <1115167780.16530.56.camel@Mandarin-04.mainframe.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "wale.mainframe.ca", hasmessagelabel similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.MacPherson wrote: > I want to create a local mirror for my internal freebsdand could be of help? I > would have thought it would be enough to be running ports/net/cvsup- > mirror would be enough on the server, and then the clients here would > use 'cvsup -h my_cvs_server ports-all' but I end up seeing: > May 2 12:40:49 cvs cvsupd[57822]: =3 Unknown collection "ports-all" > > So if someone can clarify/point/whatever, much appreciated. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: creating a local cvsup mirror. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 00:49:57 -0000 On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 17:13 -0700, Derrick MacPherson wrote: > I want to create a local mirror for my internal freebsd systems. I seem > to be confusing articles that are 'how to mirror' and 'how to be a > mirror'. Is there some details/info out there that could be of help? I > would have thought it would be enough to be running ports/net/cvsup- > mirror would be enough on the server, and then the clients here would > use 'cvsup -h my_cvs_server ports-all' but I end up seeing: > May 2 12:40:49 cvs cvsupd[57822]: =3 Unknown collection "ports-all" > > So if someone can clarify/point/whatever, much appreciated. Hmm. OK worked this time no problem. my next Q, is what do I need to do to enable my 5.X box have the source for a 4.X box? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 01:23:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0117B16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 01:23:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFC443D8A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 01:23:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9EA11ED8; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:17:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427823CF.6030100@chuckr.org> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 01:22:23 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clifton Royston References: <20050503232643.GB13135@tikitechnologies.com> In-Reply-To: <20050503232643.GB13135@tikitechnologies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Chris Burchell cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unary operator expected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 01:23:43 -0000 Clifton Royston wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:13:47PM -0600, Chris Burchell wrote: > >>I'm working with a script written for Linux that has the following >>lines: >> >># Check that networking is up. >>[ ${NETWORKING} = "no" ] && exit 0 > > > I don't think it's a Linux/BSD issue. This line won't work in sh if > NETWORKING is unset. Then you get (after parameter expansion) > > [ = "no" ] && exit 0 > > which fails the syntax check. That's a very well known mistake you ran into ... you did it wrong. You assumed that $(NETWORKING) == NO is the same as $(NETWORKING) = "" (empty) and they are not equal. You need to insure that $NETWORKING) eitgher always has a value, or you have to shortcircuit the test with a test for the variable's existence and length. Being honest, if I were doing it, I would use NETWORKING as a macro value, something that could immediately test the network's viability, then operate upon that's results. > > I suspect "NETWORKING" always happened to be set in the Linux > environment you were running it under, or perhaps you were using a > different shell. > > >>Can anyone help with suggestions or an alternate statement that will >>work on FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE? > > > One time-honored idiom is: > > [ "X${NETWORKING}" = "Xno" ] && exit 0 > > or you can just make sure that NETWORKING always gets set to some > value. > > -- Clifton > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 01:54:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D405716A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 01:54:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tco2.iaminsane.net (dsl017-004-081.ser1.dsl.speakeasy.net [69.17.4.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F1143D39 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 01:54:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rem@thecompanyonline.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-69-180-84-68.hsd1.fl.comcast.net [69.180.84.68]) (authenticated bits=0) by tco2.iaminsane.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j441bb9W022057; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:37:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rem@thecompanyonline.com) Message-ID: <42782B51.9030603@thecompanyonline.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:54:25 -0400 From: Richard McIntyre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: awc@candhsoftware.com References: <427804CE.2000107@thecompanyonline.com> <1115162311.692.29.camel@misato.candhsoftware.com> <42780E88.90706@thecompanyonline.com> In-Reply-To: <42780E88.90706@thecompanyonline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail with sasl2 build fails. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 01:54:46 -0000 Richard Mcintyre wrote: > Andy W. Clements wrote: > >> On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 19:10 -0400, Richard Mcintyre wrote: >> >> >>> I have installed cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd from ports. >>> >>> I then added the following to /etc/make.conf: >>> # SASL (cyrus-sasl v2) sendmail build flags... >>> SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 >>> SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS+= -L/usr/local/lib >>> SENDMAIL_LDADD+= -lsasl2 >>> # Adding to enable alternate port (smtps) for sendmail... >>> SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL >>> >>> >> >> >> I just went through this same process, however my flags are different >> than yours: >> >> SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL >> SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib >> SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 >> >> But I don't think that is what is causing the error below....continue: >> >> >> >>> All return the same problem at the make on >>> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail... >>> >>> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src >>> -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. >>> -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 >>> -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 >>> -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL -c >>> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/version.c >>> make: don't know how to make >>> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop >>> >>> >>> Can anyone help out? Thanks in advance... >>> ~REM >>> >>> >> >> >> I have read somewhere that your source needs to be prestine in order for >> the compile to work correctly. I pulled the source directly from cvsup >> just before attempting this manuver and it worked out all right. When >> did you last retrieve the source? >> >> I did it on the same build as you: >> >> zeppo:awc# uname -a >> FreeBSD zeppo.candhsoftware.com 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri >> Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 >> root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> >> Does the make at the end of libsmutil show the libsmutil.a file being >> created? >> >> --Andy >> >> >> >> > Actually I have just installed (using diskettes over the network) > last night. I am sure that doesn't mean that the src that was > downloaded is 100% up todate. I am running a cvsup on src now, > hopefully that will correct my problem. > > PS - Yes the libsmutil.a file was created when running the make in > libsmutil. > > Thanks, > ~Richard McIntyre Okay, I ran a cvsup for src-all and did the same thing and it still fails with the same error... make: don't know how to make /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop Any other suggesttions? Thanks in advance... ~REM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 02:09:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C7416A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:09:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe6.cox-internet.com (fe6.cox-internet.com [66.76.2.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB1643D5F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:09:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmhobbs@cox-internet.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([70.178.53.4]) by fe6.cox-internet.com 2c0225210a073aa8d80c3b96b8e7ebaa) with ESMTP id <20050504020920.XWOI4129.fe6@[70.178.53.4]> for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:09:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <11cc9565287c535926609e4364673849@cox-internet.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1--573594354" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher M.Hobbs Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:09:19 -0500 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1 (Panther) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: gcc issue in 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:09:22 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1--573594354 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Greetings list, I'm a first time poster. I hope I get this right. I'm running a fresh install of 5.3-RELEASE. Every time I attempt to install anything from the ports tree, gcc fails. Nine times out of ten it states that there has been an internal error, and that I should submit a bug report. I've considered building a different version of gcc, but I obviously need a working C compiler to do that. Are there gcc binaries for FreeBSD (x86). Right now I'm looking to move to a STABLE branch, but I'd rather fix my current problem and move on. Is this possible, or would a fresh install be my best bet? Thanks!! -- C.M. Hobbs, KD5RYO http://hobbsc.sdf-us.org --Apple-Mail-1--573594354 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeC7PDiHnDDcv1mERAlSSAKCEGU1u28cMuadTU64WYvPKN/t6yQCfQxmH qaIR29lcgRSULDdFeV06kD4= =2WJ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1--573594354-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 02:18:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EA916A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:18:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1940743D8A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:18:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A148513C1; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:18:01 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Christopher M. Hobbs" Message-ID: <20050504021801.GA12909@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <11cc9565287c535926609e4364673849@cox-internet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <11cc9565287c535926609e4364673849@cox-internet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gcc issue in 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:18:07 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 09:09:19PM -0500, Christopher M. Hobbs wrote: > Greetings list, I'm a first time poster. I hope I get this right. >=20 > I'm running a fresh install of 5.3-RELEASE. Every time I attempt to=20 > install anything from the ports tree, gcc fails. Nine times out of ten= =20 > it states that there has been an internal error, and that I should=20 > submit a bug report. >=20 > I've considered building a different version of gcc, but I obviously=20 > need a working C compiler to do that. Are there gcc binaries for=20 > FreeBSD (x86). >=20 > Right now I'm looking to move to a STABLE branch, but I'd rather fix my= =20 > current problem and move on. Is this possible, or would a fresh=20 > install be my best bet? You almost certainly have bad hardware. This is a FAQ. Kris --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeDDZWry0BWjoQKURAk2CAJ9kN+49VJeSKtgg2en3oYc0CIB9cwCgk2mY gF6do15jgOP9MGJ6cU9fhpY= =P9ds -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 02:18:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287D516A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:18:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0454443D62 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:18:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) id j442IYu9007306; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j442IWVD017484; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:18:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <11cc9565287c535926609e4364673849@cox-internet.com> References: <11cc9565287c535926609e4364673849@cox-internet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <80ef6c10844212e134edc18b3dc06f05@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 22:18:32 -0400 To: "Christopher M.Hobbs" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gcc issue in 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:18:36 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 10:09 PM, Christopher M.Hobbs wrote: > I'm running a fresh install of 5.3-RELEASE. Every time I attempt to > install anything from the ports tree, gcc fails. Nine times out of > ten it states that there has been an internal error, and that I should > submit a bug report. Try building the port again; if it fails in a different place and you're seeing signal 11's (SIGSEGV), it's almost certainly hardware problems like poor cooling or bad memory, not a bug with GCC. Try running memtest.org's checker overnight and see whether that shows any problems. Otherwise, please provide more information including *which* port, and the exact error messages (give about 10 lines of context)... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 02:20:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08E216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:20:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F4943D72 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:20:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-65-31-44-74.woh.res.rr.com [65.31.44.74]) j442KkWY009748 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002501c5504f$e1fd75d0$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 22:20:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: external usb2 drive enclosure on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:20:51 -0000 Hello, I've got a 5.3 box that i'd like to plug a usb2 drive enclosure in to. I'm concerned about 5.3's detection of my usb ports, they're all usb2 ports, yet some of them are showing up as only usb1. Here's my usb information: uhci0: port 0xde00-0xde1f irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xdf00-0xdf1f irq 11 at device 16.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11 at device 16.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xe100-0xe11f irq 11 at device 16.3 on pci0 usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xe8115000-0xe81150ff irq 10 at device 16.4 on pci0 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb3 usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: single transaction translator uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered The enclosure itself is for a 20 gb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive, and it has two cables coming out of it, one for power the other data. I'm wondering if it matters which controller one should plug them into or if that doesn't matter at all? The enclosure was purchased from CompUSA and all i can say is that at least this one shows up, the sandisk one, was a no show. When i plug in the enclosure here's the output i get: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info?:202020 asc:11,20 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Reserved ASC/ASCQ pair (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info?:202020 asc:11,20 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Reserved ASC/ASCQ pair (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info?:202020 asc:11,20 That repeats. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 02:32:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE7016A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:32:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gouda.acatysmoof.com (adsl-64-170-164-211.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.170.164.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08E143D73 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:32:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SRS0=d4NNg3M9=TL=acatysmoof.com=alex@acatysmoof.com) Received: from www.acatysmoof.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gouda.acatysmoof.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j442WVee002927 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@acatysmoof.com) From: "Alex Teslik" To: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:32:31 -0700 Message-Id: <20050504021412.M91151@acatysmoof.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050320 X-OriginatingIP: 64.170.164.211 (alex) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.17.257 (gouda.acatysmoof.com [64.170.164.211]); Tue, 03 May 2005 19:32:37 -0700 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=1.90 required=6.00 X-Spam-Level: * Subject: dynamically limit ip connections to ports over time? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:32:43 -0000 Hi all, I have been running a FreeBSD box for a few years. Over this time spammers and other unfriendlies have found my box and have been attacking at a slowly increasing rate. Every night the daily periodic scripts run and report to me the number of rejected mail hosts. Last week, one of the rejected mail hosts had the number of rejections listed at 3000. My hard drive has been getting louder and louder as it gets busier rejecting and logging all of these and now I would like to do something about it... but I'm not sure what I can do. When the hard drive is at its busiest I see mail being virus and spam scanned at a dizzying rate (tail -f /var/log/maillog), hence the hard drive grinding. What I would LIKE to do is allow any ip to connect to a port for a specified number of times per minute. If they connect too many times than I would like to freeze them out for a specified amount of time. This solution should be dynamic so that I don't need to constantly monitor the offending ip addresses. Originally, I thought I would attach a sendmail milter to do this, since mail cannons are my main problem right now. I looked at: http://www.milter.info/milter-limit/index.shtml but it requires manually adding a rule for each ip. Then I considered grey-listing: http://www.milter.info/milter-gris/index.shtml but I don't want to reject messages and cause mail delivery delays on my system. Finally, it occurred to me that the firewall would probably be a better solution and would have the nice side effect of limiting traffic to other ports as well. To try to accomplish this I have been reading a lot of IPFilter rules via google and lists, but I havn't found any that seems that it can do what I describe above - limit by ip over time. I'm sure this is not a unique problem - can someone point me in a helpful direction? Many Thanks P.S.- please cc my email address as I am not subscribed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 02:36:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF9B16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:36:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bigbird.logicsquad.net (ppp247-224.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.247.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01BE243D5E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:36:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@bigbird.logicsquad.net) Received: (qmail 81288 invoked by uid 1001); 4 May 2005 02:36:21 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:06:21 +0930 From: "Paul A. Hoadley" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050504023621.GA78622@bigbird.logicsquad.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Sendmail masquerading breaks local mail delivery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:36:27 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Because of a bizarre email topology that exists at an office I have a 5.3 machine installed at, I have recently configured sendmail to masquerade the hostname of outgoing mail to drop the machine name part. This is in bert.coremedicalsolutions.com.submit.mc: divert(-1) # Comments... divert(0)dnl VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.submit.mc,v 1.1 2003/10/19 00= :03:13 gshapiro Exp $') define(`confCF_VERSION', `Submit')dnl define(`__OSTYPE__',`')dnl dirty hack to keep proto.m4 from complaining define(`_USE_DECNET_SYNTAX_', `1')dnl support DECnet define(`confTIME_ZONE', `USE_TZ')dnl define(`confDONT_INIT_GROUPS', `True')dnl define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBrokenAAAA')dnl dnl dnl If you use IPv6 only, change [127.0.0.1] to [IPv6:::1] MASQUERADE_AS(coremedicalsolutions.com)dnl FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]')dnl As a result of this, though, all the periodic mails and the output from cron are now (I gather) having the local hostname stripped, and being sent off to the MX-listed mailer for the wider domain at an ISP. How do I get local mail delivered locally, while still masquerading the domain name for non-local mail? --=20 Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeDUl730Z/jysbzIRAgGoAJ9VfK6hNH53o2fmnn5YP/AGKJCd0ACdHU8E eCHDc7lyV9ZHUqYckKaQ3bQ= =halG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 02:50:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF5416A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:50:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9B443D66 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so96512nzk for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 19:50:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SWNvcU6C0SwP/JeLCQ2R2/HlM/BX+lgE3io8eB8qPbnWGnYJ2fcJcn5tGq8UBggj2erHQplr07yWKRiTy/hOz4C5zTizWC6/rhuUM8BEh5ode6XTBgqSwMWMvaJUtqaCwRD4EY4J9NT2H76l1W9lrO6hCl2Nu9PbQXB1P2z5PRw= Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr29992nzb; Tue, 03 May 2005 19:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.48.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <810a540e0505031950920bc63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:50:47 -0600 From: Pat Maddox To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: make installworld (remotely) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pat Maddox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:50:53 -0000 Huh? How about the many many production machines located at remote datacenters? How do people upgrade those? I've personally done hundreds of remote upgrades without ever rendering a machine unrecoverable. In fact, the only problems I've run into are with a noexec /tmp, but that's easily fixable when doing an upgrade. On 5/3/05, bob@a1poweruser.com wrote: > Doing a remote buildworld is just too dangerous for an production > box and expensive in backups because you have all the source files > to deal with. The more popular method of updating a remote system is > to have an local development box that has same components and do a > fresh install to a empty ata hard drive and them ship new HD to > remote site and swap for old one. If needed, you recover by swapping > old one back in. Or another popular way is after populating new HD, > build an bootable system on a cdrom then ship cdrom to remote site > and swap that. >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Lauri > Anteploon / ctrl-L > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:30 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: make installworld (remotely) >=20 > Hi. > Im running FreeBSD 5.3-Release #0 and would like to do buildworld > and > buildkernel. > The problem is that the machine is a remote one. > Handbook states that to run "mergemaster" and "make installworld" I > should > boot into single user mode. > That would mean that I can't access the machine remotely anymore am > I > correct? >=20 > Would it be okey to run make installworld when running in multiuser > mode and > being the only person whos logged on and maby shutting down most of > the > network services (leaving my sshd running though) ? >=20 > Lauri Anteploon > HYPERLINK "mailto:lauri@bitifarm.ee"lauri@bitifarm.ee > 5056999 >=20 > HYPERLINK "http://www.bitifarm.ee/" >=20 > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: > 2.05.2005 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 02:54:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A912916A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:54:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8991643D53 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:54:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) id j442rvAI015204; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j442rtI3028662; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:53:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20050504023621.GA78622@bigbird.logicsquad.net> References: <20050504023621.GA78622@bigbird.logicsquad.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <27c83e26c39090da32c6e4384aa767a9@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 22:53:55 -0400 To: "Paul A. Hoadley" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail masquerading breaks local mail delivery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 02:54:10 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 10:36 PM, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: > This is in bert.coremedicalsolutions.com.submit.mc: I'm not convinced it's a good idea to do MASQUERADE'ing in the submit.mc, use the normal sendmail.mc file for the MTA, not the MSA. > As a result of this, though, all the periodic mails and the output > from cron are now (I gather) having the local hostname stripped, and > being sent off to the MX-listed mailer for the wider domain at an ISP. > How do I get local mail delivered locally, while still masquerading > the domain name for non-local mail? Local delivery is handled by class w, and you can put hostnames for which local delivery will happen into a file as well, typically /etc/mail/local-host-names. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 03:03:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536A616A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 03:03:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D3543D1F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 03:03:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 092DD51233; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:03:37 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Pat Maddox Message-ID: <20050504030337.GA15635@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <810a540e0505031950920bc63@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <810a540e0505031950920bc63@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make installworld (remotely) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 03:03:44 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0600, Pat Maddox wrote: > Huh? How about the many many production machines located at remote > datacenters? How do people upgrade those? Personally speaking, by making sure I have a suitable backup plan for when something unexpected happens (usually serial console). > I've personally done hundreds of remote upgrades without ever > rendering a machine unrecoverable. Me too, but also some where something went wrong (power failure at critical moment, change to kernel configuration I forgot to adapt for, mis-merged /etc leading to sshd not starting, etc). Kris --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeDuJWry0BWjoQKURAkn8AJ9IsWaXOWQxFIDHgikmR/sffQYpIACg+x3i RgKWX7X4+XSTGiBxXBPlZ58= =YIb/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 03:05:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC61316A4CF for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 03:05:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B007C43D5C for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 03:05:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050504030450.WZKB8952.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:04:50 -0400 From: To: "Alex Teslik" , Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 23:04:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20050504021412.M91151@acatysmoof.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: RE: dynamically limit ip connections to ports over time? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 03:05:02 -0000 ipfw has "limit src ip" option. =20 It's documented in the handbook's firewall section. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Alex Teslik Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:33 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: dynamically limit ip connections to ports over time? Hi all, I have been running a FreeBSD box for a few years. Over this time = spammers and other unfriendlies have found my box and have been attacking at a = slowly increasing rate. Every night the daily periodic scripts run and report = to me the number of rejected mail hosts. Last week, one of the rejected mail = hosts had the number of rejections listed at 3000. My hard drive has been = getting louder and louder as it gets busier rejecting and logging all of these = and now I would like to do something about it... but I'm not sure what I can do. = When the hard drive is at its busiest I see mail being virus and spam scanned = at a dizzying rate (tail -f /var/log/maillog), hence the hard drive grinding. What I would LIKE to do is allow any ip to connect to a port for a specified number of times per minute. If they connect too many times = than I would like to freeze them out for a specified amount of time. This = solution should be dynamic so that I don't need to constantly monitor the = offending ip addresses. Originally, I thought I would attach a sendmail milter to do this, = since mail cannons are my main problem right now. I looked at: http://www.milter.info/milter-limit/index.shtml but it requires manually adding a rule for each ip. Then I considered grey-listing: http://www.milter.info/milter-gris/index.shtml but I don't want to reject messages and cause mail delivery delays = on my system. =20 Finally, it occurred to me that the firewall would probably be a = better solution and would have the nice side effect of limiting traffic to = other ports as well. To try to accomplish this I have been reading a lot of = IPFilter rules via google and lists, but I havn't found any that seems that it = can do what I describe above - limit by ip over time. I'm sure this is not a unique problem - can someone point me in a = helpful direction? Many Thanks P.S.- please cc my email address as I am not subscribed. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 03:26:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2565016A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 03:26:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645D043D79 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 03:26:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050504032625.GHER4191.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:26:25 -0400 From: To: "Benjamin Keating" , "Kris Kennaway" Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 23:26:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 03:26:59 -0000 Sure any public person can post junk to wiki and that is just what is wrong with it for official handbook. There would be no peer review of info for correctness. There is no single person who knows everything about FreeBSD and has time to review all the personal opinions posted to some wiki. And if you search this questions archives you will see that there is all ready an wiki for FreeBSD and it has very little activity. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Benjamin Keating Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:29 PM To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). Some parts are out of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that could really help. For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily include a 'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your kernel with IPFIREWALL support. Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. Idon't know about you but I'd rather just add my new found info to the site rather find a PR addy, submit it and wait for it to be added. We have software that does this now. Lets use it! :) - bpk On 5/3/05, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:00:06PM -0700, Benjamin Keating wrote: > > Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little > > more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of > > date. > > What is out of date? > > Generally, if you want to improve something in the handbook, just > submit a PR. > > Kris > > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 04:04:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC2F16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 04:04:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bigbird.logicsquad.net (ppp247-224.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.247.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 348B843D2F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 04:04:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@bigbird.logicsquad.net) Received: (qmail 92762 invoked by uid 1001); 4 May 2005 04:04:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:34:26 +0930 From: "Paul A. Hoadley" To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20050504040426.GF78622@bigbird.logicsquad.net> References: <20050504023621.GA78622@bigbird.logicsquad.net> <27c83e26c39090da32c6e4384aa767a9@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UFHRwCdBEJvubb2X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <27c83e26c39090da32c6e4384aa767a9@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail masquerading breaks local mail delivery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 04:04:35 -0000 --UFHRwCdBEJvubb2X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Charles, On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:53:55PM -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: > On May 3, 2005, at 10:36 PM, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: > > This is in bert.coremedicalsolutions.com.submit.mc: >=20 > I'm not convinced it's a good idea to do MASQUERADE'ing in the > submit.mc, use the normal sendmail.mc file for the MTA, not the MSA. Every time I think I have a handle on Sendmail, I go and do something like this. Moving the masquerading to the local version of sendmail.mc was sufficient to fix the problem. Thanks. --=20 Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ --UFHRwCdBEJvubb2X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeEnK730Z/jysbzIRAheaAJ9pMHTd4uXdEu4U258CmvPdq4rGDwCfSqwH bSYtur5iZSXR+ahaKILPwSU= =LFUk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UFHRwCdBEJvubb2X-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 04:05:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFD616A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 04:05:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gad.glazov.net (d50.dialup.glazov.net [81.4.197.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9D143D1F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 04:05:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@gad.glazov.net) Received: from gad.glazov.net (gad.glazov.net [127.0.0.1]) by gad.glazov.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j4443ol0001507 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:03:50 +0500 (SAMST) (envelope-from gad@gad.glazov.net) Received: (from gad@localhost) by gad.glazov.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j4443nMw001506 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:03:49 +0500 (SAMST) (envelope-from gad) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:03:49 +0500 From: Vitaly Bogdanov To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Building kernel without some modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 04:05:53 -0000 Hi. Is it possible to build kernel without compiling unnecessary modules? My system - freebsd5.3. Thanks. -- Vitaly Bogdanov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 04:17:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9BF16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 04:17:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3449A43D7F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 04:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 899D25132A; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:17:30 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Vitaly Bogdanov Message-ID: <20050504041730.GA45260@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building kernel without some modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 04:17:35 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:03:49AM +0500, Vitaly Bogdanov wrote: > Hi. > Is it possible to build kernel without compiling unnecessary modules? > My system - freebsd5.3. See make.conf(5) Kris --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeEzZWry0BWjoQKURApYTAKC95TNkSXhmAB3mROFUVp7EKwJ1oQCfeyTP LHH0Dw+tZltqPZQXbbHeQe0= =cxCS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 05:09:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194CA16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:09:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.esrr.ru (ns.esrr.ru [80.237.116.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05C343D73 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:09:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mtarelov@nud.esrr.ru) Received: by ns.esrr.ru (Postfix, from userid 684) id 26C3A5EEAE; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:09:36 +0400 (MSD) Received: from nud.esrr.ru (unknown [10.92.57.42]) by ns.esrr.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F385EEB5 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:09:14 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <427858EB.2010409@nud.esrr.ru> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:08:59 +0900 From: mtarelov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 05:09:38 -0000 mtarelov@nud.esrr.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 05:14:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5A216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:14:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.esrr.ru (ns.esrr.ru [80.237.116.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BA343D2F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:14:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mtarelov@nud.esrr.ru) Received: by ns.esrr.ru (Postfix, from userid 684) id 940955EEB4; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:14:26 +0400 (MSD) Received: from nud.esrr.ru (unknown [10.92.57.42]) by ns.esrr.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD915EE9E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:14:16 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <42785A19.2090001@nud.esrr.ru> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:14:01 +0900 From: mtarelov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 05:14:28 -0000 mailing list From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 06:22:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB50D16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:22:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8F843D6E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:22:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soheil.h.y@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so75643wra for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 23:21:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HrNNvRCQxS4Ettu8rE6V/T7e4De5n2HMFvlUkgohd+74ktpACUTrdLpKK0Q1rU/kTFGMw3BpdnLUCF3MGUNFjEB0U7StWc29FsiU4EH55aMmolp7vdQ4Ghko2UATw8J4TaTBAW4gYqk8QbE/P59AAp/6OG7VDTVUXfi1brUrgxw= Received: by 10.54.127.15 with SMTP id z15mr113911wrc; Tue, 03 May 2005 23:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.84.14 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c90b77205050323211773e6e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:51:50 +0430 From: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <444qdknvg7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c90b772050502234549589928@mail.gmail.com> <444qdknvg7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 NVIDIA-1.0.7174 GLX extension problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 06:22:00 -0000 I had installed the nvidia-1.0.7174 from nvidia.=20 I had used 1.0-6113 from ports. It works nice. But i wanted just to upgrade to the new NVIDIA Version. On 03 May 2005 12:08:40 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Soheil Hassas Yeganeh writes: >=20 > > I have problem using NVIDIA-1.0.7174. > > It failed to load GLX. What i can do for this? > > > > This is a warnings and errors of my X.org log > > > > (WW) NV(0): Option "CursorShadow" is not used > > (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) > > I have attached the complete X.org log >=20 > It turns out that you have not. >=20 > My guess is that you need to use the nvidia driver (available from > ports) instead of the nv one that comes with X.org. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 06:30:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A8216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:30:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5814443D62 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:30:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a060.otenet.gr [212.205.215.60]) j446T8wn030304; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:29:10 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j446USXv081899; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:30:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j446USHd081895; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:30:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:30:28 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Benjamin Keating Message-ID: <20050504063027.GA67510@gothmog.gr> References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 06:30:50 -0000 On 2005-05-03 17:29, Benjamin Keating wrote: >On 5/3/05, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:00:06PM -0700, Benjamin Keating wrote: >>> Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little >>> more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of >>> date. >> >> What is out of date? >> >> Generally, if you want to improve something in the handbook, just >> submit a PR. > > A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). A wiki comes with its own set of problems though. It's not easy to mirror, its markup language is arbitrarily defined (as opposed to DocBook/SGML), it still requires constant review by a group of dedicated freebsd-doc people, etc. > Some parts are out of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that > could really help. For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily > include a 'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into > reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your kernel > with IPFIREWALL support. Useful comments can always posted to freebsd-doc for discussion. Helpful comments are not only those that contain patches, but also comments of the form: "This section sucks a bit. I can't really understand what the exact steps to rebuild my kernel are." > Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. It's ok. This is part of the purpose of having the list :) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 06:48:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB1D16A4D0 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:48:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.bg (mx1.mail.bg [193.201.172.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6033443D8C for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:48:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ianchov@mail.bg) Received: from localhost (web1.mail.bg [193.201.172.98]) by mx1.mail.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C51072C4CCB for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:48:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 213-240-204-244.1699773.ddns.cablebg.netmail.bg (mail.bG Webmail 4.0.1) with HTTP for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:48:14 +0300 Message-ID: <1115189294.ad281c6b67eb8@mail.bg> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:48:14 +0300 From: ianchov@mail.bg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> In-Reply-To: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: mail.bG Webmail 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 213.240.204.244 Subject: Re: Building kernel without some modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 06:48:35 -0000 >>> Is it possible to build kernel without compiling unnecessary modules? >>> My system - freebsd5.3. >>> Thanks. >>> -- Yes. checkout make.conf and read the comments ----------------------------- http://www.atol.bg - =CD=E0=EC=E5=F0=E8 =E1=E8=E2=F8=E8=F2=E5 =F1=E8 =F1=FA= =F3=F7=E5=ED=E8=F6=E8 =E8 =F1=F2=E0=F0=E8 =EF=F0=E8=FF=F2=E5=EB=E8! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 07:39:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E286216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:39:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.performancedesign.no (dsl-static-124-226.oeke.tiscali.no [213.234.124.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC6843D7F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:39:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from idart@performancedesign.no) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.performancedesign.no [127.0.0.1]) by mail.performancedesign.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F18320ACB; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42787C1C.4060603@performancedesign.no> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:39:08 +0200 From: Idar Tollefsen Organization: Performance Design User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vitaly Bogdanov References: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> In-Reply-To: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building kernel without some modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 07:39:49 -0000 Vitaly Bogdanov wrote: > Is it possible to build kernel without compiling unnecessary modules? Set "MODULES_OVERRIDE= [the modules you want]" in make.conf, e.g. "MODULES_OVERRIDE= linux coda". It's in make.conf's man page. - IT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 07:44:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A481616A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:44:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.duth.gr (mail.duth.gr [192.108.114.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EB443D64 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:44:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bigbrother@bonbon.net) Received: from bigb3server.ath.cx (b9-29.xan.duth.gr [193.92.211.29]) by mail.duth.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j447iK9P037464 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:44:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from bigbrother@bonbon.net) Received: from bigb3server.bbcluster.gr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigb3server.ath.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j447bQkf013667 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:37:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from bigbrother@bonbon.net) Received: from localhost (bigbrother@localhost)j447bQEg013664 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:37:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from bigbrother@bonbon.net) X-Authentication-Warning: bigb3server.bbcluster.gr: bigbrother owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:37:26 +0300 (EEST) From: BigBrother-{BigB3} To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050504100407.T575@bigb3server.bbcluster.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 192.108.114.110 X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (mail.duth.gr [192.108.114.110]); Wed, 04 May 2005 10:44:20 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Re: I used "boot0cfg" and destroyed the MBR.All labels dissapear! (How I Fixed it) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 07:44:52 -0000 Hi, I managed to fix the error of all slices being destroyed. My system is up and running. i did not reinstall any programs, just edited the partition table and the labels. It took me 3 days to figure out the exact values, so I post here my findings, in case somebody faces the same problem. The problem was solved using two programs from the fixit disk: fdisk and disklabel. Note that I am using a whole disc dedicated to freebsd. no other partitions exist. This is a short guide of how to fix it: a) boot the computer using the floppy disks and enter the Fixit menu with the fixit disc inserted. b) go to menu Configure->Fdisk and delete all partitions (NOTE: I am using all the disc dedicated to freebsd. No other OS exist. On your situation this may vary). c) On this screen then I pressed [A] - use Entire disc and saw the new automatically calculated sector values (and the offset). d) I pressed CTRL+C to abort this screen. Only the numbers interested me. e) i went to menu and pressed the fixit prompt. I went to fixit prompt. ( I run 'disklabel ad0' and 'disklabel -r ad0' and I noted down some numbers of the fake partitions. Especially I noted the size (in sectors) of it....If this process fails, then you have to repeat the disklabel step after every fdisk commans that follows. Also note the number of fsize,bsize, and bps/cpg). f) I edited the partition table using fdisk. fdisk -u ad0 (ad0 is my first disc) I deleted all (fake) partitions and created one accoring to the numbers that I have extracted from the previous screen. The type was 165 Freebsd. Thus I have created a big slice ad0s1. I edited the slice ad0s1 because I saw that there is a hidden parition on every freebsd system with thse values: fdisk ad0s1 Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 50000 (24 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63 I do not know why, but every freebsd system (on my possesion) has a partition 4 on slice 1 with these values. I then edit the labels on that slice using disklabel -e ad0s1 If that operation fails then you have to install a fresh disklabel using disklabel -w ad0s1 auto or disklabel -w ad0 auto I edit the labels of that slice. The sectors off-set was known from a previous step where I had extracted them using disklabel. The offset is calulated by adding the sectors until know. The fsize and other numbers are known from the previous step also. Then you edit the label and write the first line of a: offset=0 4.2BSD fsize bsize bps/cpg On the b label put in the offset the sectors size of the previous ( a slice) and repeat the process. Note that the label 'c' correspongs to whole disc so this value shoule have size from offset 0 until size the number of disklabel: [sectors/unit: XXXXX]. The lats label starts from the sum of all the previous labels until the number of sectors/units. Thus if the calulcated offset it 100 and sectors/unit is 300, then the last label will have size 200 and offset 100. After editing the label, try to mount. Note that the /mnt2/ holds the devices for mounting labels. try to: mount /mnt2/dev/ad0s1a /mnt if this succeeds then label a has correct values. If not try to edit disklabel with oteher numbers. Remember that as long as you do no issue [newfs] the inode table is somewhere hidden on the disc and you just have to figure out the label information (where it starts and where it ends for every slice). Finally, install bootblocks using fdisk -B ad0 fdisk -B ad0s1 disklabel -B ad0 auto disklabel -B ad0s1 auto and to be 100% sure enter sysinstall and go to fdisk menu and press Q quit. it will then ask you to install a boot manager...Say yes to it and your PC is 100% ready! Reboot and enjoy:) it took me 3 days to figure out this process but I managed to succeed in it. Of course the best advice is (in order to avoid this) to print the partitoin information for your hard disc so you know before hand all the values... Just issue (in case you have a ad0 disc) fdisk ad0 [depending on your disc] fdisk ad0s1 [-<<-] disklabel ad0 disklabel ad0s1 i hope that you will not need my short guide on fixing such kind of problems, but your never know :) BB --- Dreams have no limits! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 08:30:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965C016A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:30:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54009.mail.yahoo.com (web54009.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0AAD43D6E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:30:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 32152 invoked by uid 60001); 4 May 2005 08:29:59 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:30:18 -0000 I have installed: opera-8.0.20050415 xorg-libraries-6.8.2 Opera ships with operamotifwrappers: /usr/X11R6/share/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-1 /usr/X11R6/share/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-2 /usr/X11R6/share/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3 $ldd /usr/X11R6/.../operamotifwrapper* | grep libXThr libXThrStub.so.6 => not found (0x0) libXThrStub.so.6 => not found (0x0) libXThrStub.so.6 => not found (0x0) Opera complains a lot about this. Actually, libXThrStub.so.6 is nowhere to find on my FreeBSD 5.4-Stable PC, but I think that xorg-libraries should have installed libXThrStub.so.6 in /usr/X11R6/lib, shouldn't it? What's wrong here and how can I fix it? Thanks, Rob. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 08:45:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A522616A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:45:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from geofront.co.uk (port-179.dolphin.c4l.co.uk [80.253.114.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A849F43D72 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:45:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.205] ([81.27.69.100]) by geofront.co.uk (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j448vmih025774; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:57:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from Mike@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk) Message-ID: <42788A0E.70503@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:38:38 +0100 From: Mike Woods User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050209) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandre Biancalana References: <8e10486b05050310315c2eafcc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8e10486b05050310315c2eafcc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB GPS Receiver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:45:37 -0000 Alexandre Biancalana wrote: >usb in my kernel: ># USB support >device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface >device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface >device usb # USB Bus (required) >device ugen # Generic >device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" >device ulpt # Printer >device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da >device ums # Mouse >device ucom > > "device uplcom" is what you need for that particular adaptor. -------------------------------------- Mike Woods Systems Administrator From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 09:59:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E0E16A4CF for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:59:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bee.surpasshosting.com (bee.surpasshosting.com [72.29.75.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1883E43D7E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:59:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sowyong@sstwo.net) Received: from [219.95.255.114] (helo=endress.sowdog.com) by bee.surpasshosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTGf5-0004SU-7E; Wed, 04 May 2005 05:59:23 -0400 From: Wong Sow Yong To: Dillinger In-Reply-To: <000801c54d32$c2153340$0300a8c0@cumputah> References: <000801c54d32$c2153340$0300a8c0@cumputah> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:00:06 +0800 Message-Id: <1115200807.47302.3.camel@endress.sowdog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: sowyong@sstwo.net,sstwo19 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - bee.surpasshosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sstwo.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Show me X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:59:51 -0000 If your keen on poking around a little, you could try http://www.freesbie.org/ which has live cd version based on Freebsd. No installation required, just throw it in your CDROM drive and poke away. On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 20:14 -0700, Dillinger wrote: > Would somebody care to show me an actual working computer with FreeBSD installed and give me a brief tour of some of the basic capabilities? I am in Redwood Shores but I would be willing to drive to Berkeley or SF. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 10:07:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BF816A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:07:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from inetis.com (cpe-212-18-40-64.adsl.amis.net [212.18.40.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CB743D6B for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:07:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karel@inetis.com) Received: from [192.168.0.14] ([192.168.0.14]) by inetis.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:06:02 +0200 Message-ID: <42789E86.3020803@inetis.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:05:58 +0200 From: Karel Miklav User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions References: <63c3899e0505030601163f1af7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <63c3899e0505030601163f1af7@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing DCOM98 with Wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 10:07:15 -0000 Chris Hodgins wrote: > I have the latest Wine and Winetools installed and I am now trying to > install DCOM98 with the purpose of installing internet explorer 6 for > my web development needs. Have you considered using QEMU? I have it installed on an old 300MHz notebook. It runs Win98 perfectly and applications like IE are usable on this hardware. -- Regards, Karel Miklav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 10:36:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92C416A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:36:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from inetis.com (cpe-212-18-40-64.adsl.amis.net [212.18.40.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B30F43D73 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:36:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karel@inetis.com) Received: from [192.168.0.14] ([192.168.0.14]) by inetis.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:35:33 +0200 Message-ID: <4278A578.8090803@inetis.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:35:36 +0200 From: Karel Miklav User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Keating , questions@freebsd.org References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 10:36:32 -0000 Benjamin Keating wrote: > Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little > more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of > date. > > A wiki would be a great way to acheive this. If there isn't a project > like it yet, I'd like to propose we set one up. I can contribute quite > a bit of time and resources towards this. Save me wiki.freebsd.org and > I'll get a move on! What about http://www.freebsdwiki.net? It needs a better home page and some content, but it's there. Besides, I completely agree with you that wiki-kind software must replace all pointless hand-editing and mail shuffling. -- Regards, Karel Miklav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 11:20:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEB116A4CF for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:20:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.softlink.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D2243D73 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:20:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (unknown [213.235.192.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B8B30318 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:58:40 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: FreeBSD Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:58:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> Subject: installing big qmail server ... where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:20:40 -0000 Hi all, I have to plan and setup a mail solution for about 50.000 users, here are some key features requested by our customer: - self coded webfrontend w/ webmail and administration (filter, alias etc) - 100MB quota per user - autoresponder - about 50.000 user - online backup of data - some more featuers for web frontend Since I happily use qmail for some other (but smaller) installations, I want to try it with qmail here for this project as well. My only problem is, I have no clue where to start ... beginning from "should I use 2 redundant and really strong or some more but cheaper servers?" to "which qmail distributions and patches should I use (ldap, mysql, ...)?" and "how to store data (mails) and do online backup w/o downtime?". I know you can't give me _the_ solution for this issue, but I am thankful for any hints and internet links on this topic. I am sure you guys can help me :) Greetings and TIA, Matthias -- And thank you most of all for nuclear power, which is yet to cause a single proven fatality, at least in this country. -- Homer Simpson Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 11:33:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F54416A4D2 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:33:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daffy.activeinvitesoftware.com (wbar2.sjo1-4-10-244-201.sjo1.dsl-verizon.net [4.10.244.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D19E43D39 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rene.mendoza@activeinvitesoftware.com) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (unknown [210.213.179.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (verified OK))5BED01106808 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4278B2EA.3050809@activeinvitesoftware.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:32:58 +0800 From: "Rene C. Mendoza" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: vpnc tunnel sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:33:53 -0000 Hi all, I got this insane idea of sharing the vpn tunnel created by vpnc on a FreeBSD box. The idea here is that WinXP machines wanting to connect to a Cisco VPN concentrator can use the FreeBSD box to use as some sort of vpn gateway. Is this possible? What are the issues involved? Right now, I can connect to the Cisco VPN concentrator using the FreeBSD box. If you need more details, I'd be happy to email them. thanks, Rene From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 11:45:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA01416A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:45:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F5F43D67 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:45:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6315722 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:41:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <20050504063027.GA67510@gothmog.gr> References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> <20050504063027.GA67510@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3b391df5da31a69822bf6d8f57c59181@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:44:34 -0400 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:45:14 -0000 On May 4, 2005, at 2:30 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-05-03 17:29, Benjamin Keating wrote: > >> Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. > > It's ok. This is part of the purpose of having the list :) You wouldn't think so from the flak some people have received for not googling for a "common problem" or searching through the mailing list archives...Or maybe I'm confusing this with another list? *shrug* oh well, it's only Wednesday :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 11:52:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65D416A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:52:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C379943D5A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:52:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])D70EF18001D7 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:50:56 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 4 May 2005 11:50:56 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CA4A54BEAE; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:50:56 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:50:56 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, dev@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 06:50:56 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050504115056.CA4A54BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: A make world/kernel interface? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:52:13 -0000 Hello. Would it be a good idea having some sort of interface for those who desire to have their system updating (make world and kernel) made interactive? I am not talking a GUI here, but something that can make it more convenient: 1. Put the entire process under one roof. 2. Be able to see the completion percentage 3. Be able to halt/resume the process 4. I'm sure there would be many other upsides to this I hope somebody can turn this into something viable. Thanks! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:06:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A8516A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:06:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxs1.siemens.at (mxs1.siemens.at [194.138.12.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591DF43D1D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:06:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thomas.pipek@siemens.com) Received: from vies1k7x.sie.siemens.at ([158.226.129.83]) by mxs1.siemens.at with ESMTP id j44C6XDX027602 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:06:33 +0200 Received: from vies194a.sie.siemens.at ([158.226.129.97]) j44C6Wcn009331 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:06:33 +0200 Received: by vies194a.sie.siemens.at with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:07:54 +0200 Message-ID: From: Pipek Thomas To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:07:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: PPP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:06:59 -0000 Hallo: We want to use a machine with FreeBSD and PPP over Modems. Is it possible to configure PPP in that way, that it supports client/server on one machine. That means we want to dial in to that machine and also to dialout on demand on that machine. In both cases we have the same partner (with same IP-address and CHAP-name). In your online-description i only found client or server-configurations. Regards Thomas Pipek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:17:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D1316A4CE; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:17:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f36.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E9643D55; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:17:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cool_mike_21@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:16:58 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.200 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:16:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.200] X-Originating-Email: [cool_mike_21@hotmail.com] X-Sender: cool_mike_21@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <42768C31.5050107@raad.tartu.ee> From: "Michael Neeff" To: toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:16:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2005 12:16:58.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B3BAE30:01C550A3] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:17:11 -0000 Hey Toomas, In followup to my prev. reply and your question. Here is the output of the command: 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 Thanks. PS: Kent, your suggestion is what I have already tried ...I've tried to 'umount /cdrom' it doesn't do anything.... since BSD cannot find it... when I go in /dev I do not see /cdrom there is only acd0, However when I try mkdir cdrom under /dev it says it already exists...? ls -a doesn't show anything. The intelligence behind the O/S is what amazes me...lol >From: Toomas Aas >To: Michael Neeff >CC: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM >Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:23:13 +0300 > >Hi Michael! > >I was hoping someone can give you a more definite answer, but it seems >no-one knowledgeable has responded, so here are my comments, worth exactly >what you paid for them :) > >>I've been trying since the past couple of days to get my sound back... it >>all started when I followed the steps from the manual in setting up >>statically sound drivers for my old Compaq DeskPro EN series...for FreeBSD >>5.3. I included the "snd_sbc" driver, since when I kldload snd_driver it >>comes up as ESS 1869 in my kernel file (MYKERNEL).. I also included the >>line "device sound" in the MYKERNEL (customized kernel Chp. 7) for some >>reason it doesn't work when I want to run mpg123... > >The above stuff seems roughly correct. That's how I built sound into kernel >on my home PC, but I'm not at that PC now so I can't check my kernel >config. > >What do you mean by "it doesn't work"? Do you get an error message? Or >simply nothing happens? In the latter case, check your mixer settings, >speaker volume knob and physical connections. > >After building sound into kernel, you can also remove the relevant module >loading lines from /boot/loader.conf, but I think that even if you left >them in it shouldn't prevent sound from working - you would just get an >error message saying something to the tune of "file already exists", >meaning that the functionality for which you are trying to load the module >is already included in the kernel. > >>...Anyways this is the least of my problems. I now comment the lines: >>device snd_sbc, device sound recomplie the kernel and keep getting cd9660: >>device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error when I try to mount any of my CDs... >>(music or data) > >You shouldn't try to mount music CDs since they don't contain any >filesystem that can be mounted. The error message above is exactly what you >get when you try to mount an audio CD. Mounting data CDs should work, >though. > >Does the command 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' contain any text? > >>I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other >>combinations : >>mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 >>/cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... > >At least *some* of the above commands should work ;-) > >>I even tried loading my old kernel (GENERIC) from /boot/kernel.old/kernel >>(Btw, is this the same as the last recompile of MYKERNE?L... I think I >>have compiled 3/4 times by now in the hopes that this would work) > >Yes, every time you build an install new kernel, the previous kernel is >copied to kernel.old and previous kernel.old is wiped out. So it is well >possible that you don't even have the original kernel with which things >worked on your system any more. > >>HELP - I'm a newbie... I've got almost everything working with KDE >>3.3...and now back to this. I was so happy when I could run cdcontrol from >>the command line and now I'm :o( frustrated !! > >One more thing you could try is to get the GENERIC kernel from e.g. >installation CDs and boot with that. > >-- >Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- >|arvutivõrgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| >|Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | >----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:17:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D1316A4CE; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:17:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f36.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E9643D55; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:17:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cool_mike_21@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:16:58 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.200 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:16:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.200] X-Originating-Email: [cool_mike_21@hotmail.com] X-Sender: cool_mike_21@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <42768C31.5050107@raad.tartu.ee> From: "Michael Neeff" To: toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:16:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2005 12:16:58.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B3BAE30:01C550A3] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:17:11 -0000 Hey Toomas, In followup to my prev. reply and your question. Here is the output of the command: 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 Thanks. PS: Kent, your suggestion is what I have already tried ...I've tried to 'umount /cdrom' it doesn't do anything.... since BSD cannot find it... when I go in /dev I do not see /cdrom there is only acd0, However when I try mkdir cdrom under /dev it says it already exists...? ls -a doesn't show anything. The intelligence behind the O/S is what amazes me...lol >From: Toomas Aas >To: Michael Neeff >CC: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM >Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:23:13 +0300 > >Hi Michael! > >I was hoping someone can give you a more definite answer, but it seems >no-one knowledgeable has responded, so here are my comments, worth exactly >what you paid for them :) > >>I've been trying since the past couple of days to get my sound back... it >>all started when I followed the steps from the manual in setting up >>statically sound drivers for my old Compaq DeskPro EN series...for FreeBSD >>5.3. I included the "snd_sbc" driver, since when I kldload snd_driver it >>comes up as ESS 1869 in my kernel file (MYKERNEL).. I also included the >>line "device sound" in the MYKERNEL (customized kernel Chp. 7) for some >>reason it doesn't work when I want to run mpg123... > >The above stuff seems roughly correct. That's how I built sound into kernel >on my home PC, but I'm not at that PC now so I can't check my kernel >config. > >What do you mean by "it doesn't work"? Do you get an error message? Or >simply nothing happens? In the latter case, check your mixer settings, >speaker volume knob and physical connections. > >After building sound into kernel, you can also remove the relevant module >loading lines from /boot/loader.conf, but I think that even if you left >them in it shouldn't prevent sound from working - you would just get an >error message saying something to the tune of "file already exists", >meaning that the functionality for which you are trying to load the module >is already included in the kernel. > >>...Anyways this is the least of my problems. I now comment the lines: >>device snd_sbc, device sound recomplie the kernel and keep getting cd9660: >>device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error when I try to mount any of my CDs... >>(music or data) > >You shouldn't try to mount music CDs since they don't contain any >filesystem that can be mounted. The error message above is exactly what you >get when you try to mount an audio CD. Mounting data CDs should work, >though. > >Does the command 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' contain any text? > >>I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other >>combinations : >>mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 >>/cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... > >At least *some* of the above commands should work ;-) > >>I even tried loading my old kernel (GENERIC) from /boot/kernel.old/kernel >>(Btw, is this the same as the last recompile of MYKERNE?L... I think I >>have compiled 3/4 times by now in the hopes that this would work) > >Yes, every time you build an install new kernel, the previous kernel is >copied to kernel.old and previous kernel.old is wiped out. So it is well >possible that you don't even have the original kernel with which things >worked on your system any more. > >>HELP - I'm a newbie... I've got almost everything working with KDE >>3.3...and now back to this. I was so happy when I could run cdcontrol from >>the command line and now I'm :o( frustrated !! > >One more thing you could try is to get the GENERIC kernel from e.g. >installation CDs and boot with that. > >-- >Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- >|arvutivõrgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| >|Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | >----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:18:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878DE16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:18:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B02F43D5E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:18:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DTIoj-0001g8-AT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:17:30 -0600 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Resent-Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 06:17:28 -0600 Message-Id: Resent-To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Resent-From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Resent-Message-Id: <19C56ED6-4DFE-447D-9B67-986CA61E03CB@shire.net> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:33:29 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: Chad Leigh Subject: mail/sendmail submit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:18:14 -0000 Hi I am trying to allow mail submission and sending on a 5.3-RELEASE box from inside a jail, but not a running MTA... I have the following in the rc.conf sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" # Start a localhost-only MTA for mail submission sendmail_outbound_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck mail (YES/NO). sendmail_msp_queue_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck clientmqueue mail (YES/NO). Since you cannot bind to localhost only in a jail I have that set to NO. The /etc/mail/README file says to change the freebsd.submit.mc file and remake things so that it submits to another host. I have done that by doing the "Change the FEATURE(msp) line to FEATURE(msp, hostname) where hostname is the fully qualified hostname of the alternative host." and then "'make install-submit-cf' in /etc/mail/". When I try to do a mail on the command line, I get: root@machine:/home/chad# can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser. Where do I set this TrustedUser and how do I make the mail program work as a TrustedUser? I grepped TrustedUser in /etc/mail/* and got freebsd.cf:#O TrustedUser=root freebsd.submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp machine.com.submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp sendmail.cf:#O TrustedUser=root submit.cf:O TrustedUser=smmsp so it seems to be set to smmsp which is a valid user in the password file. Thanks for any help or pointers on getting this to work. Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:23:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F137816A4CE for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:23:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay3-f12.bay3.hotmail.com [65.54.169.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AA943D46 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xtremejames183@msn.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 3 May 2005 09:23:45 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 213.150.169.20 by by3fd.bay3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2005 16:23:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.150.169.20] X-Originating-Email: [xtremejames183@msn.com] X-Sender: xtremejames183@msn.com In-Reply-To: From: "Mrad James Deane" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:23:45 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 16:23:45.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ABE1E40:01C54FFC] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:33:51 +0000 Subject: Freebsd 4.11 cannot install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:23:33 -0000 hello i'm tryin to install freebsd 4.11 without succes. After configuring my kernel and starting to sysinstall the systems stops while detecting hardware in this section (this is the default message shown) ad0:Read commad timeout tag=0 serv=0 -resseting ata0: resetting devices. i don't know what to do to solve the problem , i know that the problem come from my hard drive because i have done several operation on it (partitions, ntfs/linux format) but i'm really in trouble i have succesfully instaledl freebsd 5.2 and 5.3 release with another partition that handle winxp . please help , thanks James Snipes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail : antivirus et antispam intégrés http://www.msn.fr/newhotmail/Default.asp?Ath=f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:28:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF3816A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:28:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp3.tin.it (vsmtp3alice.tin.it [212.216.176.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5B943D72 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:28:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.demartino2@virgilio.it) Received: from a-fe7-88.tin.it (212.216.148.87) by vsmtp3.tin.it (7.0.027) id 427155AD002292F4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:27:32 +0200 From: Vittorio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:27:24 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505041427.24993.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> Subject: Re: Problems with user ppp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:28:05 -0000 Alle 21:38, marted=EC 3 maggio 2005, bob@a1poweruser.com ha scritto: > Log has this > ppp[505]: tun0: IPCP: =A0PRIDNS[6] 10.155.201.22 > which means your ISP has handed you ip =A0 =A0 10.155.201.22 is dsn > server. > you say first line in /etc/resolv.conf =A0is 10.255.201.22 > Are you sure you posted the correct stuff here. that number is to > close not to be typo. > Try deleting contents of /var/log/ppp.log and /etc/resolve.conf and > restart user-ppp to get good documented test. > > Looks to me as your user ppp is functioning correctly. > Your firewall is not allowing out port 53 to ip 10.155.201.22 is > more likely cause of your problem. > I confirm that my office lan is made of 10.155.x.x addresses and when I=20 connect to it via dhcp I find 2 addresses of that kind in /etc/resolv.conf. Anyway, I've just repeated the "experiment" with user ppp keeping the same= =20 ppp.conf ... and: 1) Nothing written into /etc/resolv.conf 2) Neither ppp.linkup nor ppp.linkdown are present in my /etc/ppp 3) Issued "ppp -background alice" ppp[602]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 ppp[602]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state ppp[602]: tun0: Command: default: ident user-ppp VERSION (built=20 COMPILATIONDATE) ppp[602]: tun0: Command: default: set device /dev/cuaa0 ppp[602]: tun0: Command: default: set speed 115200 ppp[602]: tun0: Command: default: set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER=20 TIMEOUT 5 "" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \dATDT\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT ppp[602]: tun0: Command: default: set timeout 180 ppp[602]: tun0: Command: default: enable dns ppp[602]: tun0: Command: alice: set phone 0,7020803380 ppp[602]: tun0: Command: alice: set authname pippolino@tin.it ppp[602]: tun0: Command: alice: set authkey ******** ppp[602]: tun0: Command: alice: set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.25= 5.0=20 0.0.0.0 ppp[602]: tun0: Command: alice: add default HISADDR ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (background mode). ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Phone: 0,7020803380 ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATE1Q0^M ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATE1Q0^M^M ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT0,7020803380^M ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Expect(40): CONNECT ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATDT0,7020803380^M^M ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 54666/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS^M ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaa0: CD detected ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier -> login ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state =3D Stopped ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xea54429a ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state =3D Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1524 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MRRU[4] 1524 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ENDDISC[9] Local Addr: stack1 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(1) state =3D Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MRRU[4] 1524 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(0) state =3D Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM ea54429a ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: TEXT user-ppp 3.4.2 (built Apr 26 2005) ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(1) state =3D Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xea54429a ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(2) state =3D Ack-Rcvd ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1524 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ENDDISC[9] Local Addr: stack1 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(2) state =3D Ack-Rcvd ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1524 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: ENDDISC[9] Local Addr: stack1 ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerUp ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(1) state =3D Opened ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM ea54429a ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: TEXT user-ppp 3.4.2 (built Apr 26 2005) ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his =3D CHAP 0x05, mine =3D none ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes from apx-rm5) ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (pippolino@tin.it) ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: SUCCESS ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: Using trigger address 0.0.0.0 ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: deflink: LayerStart. ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: MPPE: Not usable without CHAP81 ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state =3D Closed ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: PRED1[2] ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open ppp[603]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerStart. ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state =3D Closed ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state =3D Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 80.21.255.5 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(1) state =3D Req-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 80.21.255.5 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvProtocolRej(3) state =3D Opened ppp[603]: tun0: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x80fd (Compression Control=20 Protocol) was rejected! ppp[603]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(1) state =3D Ack-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 212.216.149.56 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: IPADDR[6] changing address: 0.0.0.0 --> 212.216.149= =2E56 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state =3D Ack-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 212.216.149.56 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2) state =3D Ack-Sent ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 212.216.149.56 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> Opened ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerUp. ppp[603]: tun0: IPCP: myaddr 212.216.149.56 hisaddr =3D 80.21.255.5 ppp[602]: tun0: Phase: Parent: PPP enabled ppp[603]: tun0: Chat: Parent notified of success 4) Now in /etc/resolv.conf that was empty there's "nameserver=20 255.255.255.255" !!! Therefore, I understand that ppp is unable to get the dns name files from = the=20 ISP? Am I right? What to do next? Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:47:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E9B16A4E4; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:47:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizm0.org (gizm0.org [212.114.209.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3065843D1F; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:47:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@gizm0.org) Received: from [10.0.0.122] (unknown [10.0.0.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gizm0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7DCA10196; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:47:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4278C452.8070504@gizm0.org> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:47:14 +0200 From: Steven Enderle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050203 X-Accept-Language: de-de, de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050504115056.CA4A54BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050504115056.CA4A54BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: dev@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A make world/kernel interface? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:47:32 -0000 Nice idea, but basicly its all included: 2. you can guess that after doing it a couple of times 3. ctrl-z / fg does the trick -- ++ message delivered by gizm0.org ++ free webmail - imap, pop3, ssl secured Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >Hello. > >Would it be a good idea having some sort of interface for >those who desire to have their system updating (make world and >kernel) made interactive? I am not talking a GUI here, but >something that can make it more convenient: > >1. Put the entire process under one roof. >2. Be able to see the completion percentage >3. Be able to halt/resume the process >4. I'm sure there would be many other upsides to this > >I hope somebody can turn this into something viable. > >Thanks! > >-- > >Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:54:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B024316A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:54:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu (mail.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu [146.245.250.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AB843D69 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:54:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dayton@brooklyn.cuny.edu) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j44CsJPs018628 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:54:19 -0400 Received: from hurt.theclones.net (w244.z064002068.nyc-ny.dsl.cnc.net [64.2.68.244])j44CsBlf018448; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:54:11 -0400 Received: from hurt.theclones.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hurt.theclones.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1843D9C; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:54:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: dayton@brooklyn.cuny.edu To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.6 (Marutamachi) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:54:53 -0000 Benjamin Keating wrote: > Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little > more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of > date. > > A wiki would be a great way to acheive this. If there isn't a project > like it yet, I'd like to propose we set one up. I can contribute quite > a bit of time and resources towards this. Save me wiki.freebsd.org and > I'll get a move on! What about http://www.freebsdwiki.net? It needs a better home page and some content, but it's there. Besides, I completely agree with you that wiki-kind software must replace all pointless hand-editing and mail shuffling. -- Regards, Karel Miklav I am a long-time FreeBSD user. I rarely consult the handbook because of the problems mentioned in this thread. A Wikipedia approach would be great but it would require constant attention by a dedicated group of people. A compromise approach could be to do what www.php.net does. On this site they have the official manual, which has the same flaws as the FBSD handbook (out of date pages, obtuse descriptions, ...). In addition, postings from users are attached to each page. These postings often contain information more pertinent to a particular query than the manual page itself. With this scheme, it is easy for a manual user to distinguish the "official" information from the information from general users. So one can apply the appropriate mental filters on the information. I am sure there is some monitoring and selection of posts by some responsible people. But the effort involved should be considerably less than that required for the Wikipedia model. dayton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:15:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7D216A4CF for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:15:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2E443D78 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050504131540.WYZY17140.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:15:40 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Pipek Thomas" , Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:15:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: PPP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:15:52 -0000 There is a better description of using 'user ppp' to do what you want in this Install guide. http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pipek Thomas Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:08 AM To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: PPP Hallo: We want to use a machine with FreeBSD and PPP over Modems. Is it possible to configure PPP in that way, that it supports client/server on one machine. That means we want to dial in to that machine and also to dialout on demand on that machine. In both cases we have the same partner (with same IP-address and CHAP-name). In your online-description i only found client or server-configurations. Regards Thomas Pipek _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:22:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1E816A4CE; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:22:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0506643D5D; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j44DM4JF006446; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j44DM3gU006445; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200505041322.j44DM3gU006445@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: cool_mike_21@hotmail.com (Michael Neeff) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:22:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:22:26 -0000 > > Hey Toomas, > In followup to my prev. reply and your question. > Here is the output of the command: 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' > acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 > > Thanks. > PS: Kent, your suggestion is what I have already tried ...I've tried to > 'umount /cdrom' it doesn't do anything.... since BSD cannot find it... when > I go in /dev I do not see /cdrom there is only acd0, However when I try > mkdir cdrom under /dev it says it already exists...? ls -a doesn't show > anything. The intelligence behind the O/S is what amazes me...lol I haven't been following this thread so I may be jumping in out of order, but a comment on this post. You would not do a mkdir of anything in /dev. That directory is a special one for devices. acd0 is a device, for example. You want to mount this device to a mount point. To make a /cdrom mount mount, you would probably want to do mkdir cdrom in root, eg. cd / mkdir cdrom Then do something like mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom or probably more like: mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom But, that is for looking at files in a file system way. Probably, for sound, you don't want to mount the cd at all. I had sound in a FreeBSD 3.xxx a long time ago, but haven't bothered in several years with more recent version. So things may well have changed. I believe you do still need to have your kernel built with 'device snd'. Check in: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT or its 5.xxx equivalent (I don't have a 5.xxx handy at the moment to look at). ////jerry > > >From: Toomas Aas > >To: Michael Neeff > >CC: questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM > >Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:23:13 +0300 > > > >Hi Michael! > > > >I was hoping someone can give you a more definite answer, but it seems > >no-one knowledgeable has responded, so here are my comments, worth exactly > >what you paid for them :) > > > >>I've been trying since the past couple of days to get my sound back... it > >>all started when I followed the steps from the manual in setting up > >>statically sound drivers for my old Compaq DeskPro EN series...for FreeBSD > >>5.3. I included the "snd_sbc" driver, since when I kldload snd_driver it > >>comes up as ESS 1869 in my kernel file (MYKERNEL).. I also included the > >>line "device sound" in the MYKERNEL (customized kernel Chp. 7) for some > >>reason it doesn't work when I want to run mpg123... > > > >The above stuff seems roughly correct. That's how I built sound into kernel > >on my home PC, but I'm not at that PC now so I can't check my kernel > >config. > > > >What do you mean by "it doesn't work"? Do you get an error message? Or > >simply nothing happens? In the latter case, check your mixer settings, > >speaker volume knob and physical connections. > > > >After building sound into kernel, you can also remove the relevant module > >loading lines from /boot/loader.conf, but I think that even if you left > >them in it shouldn't prevent sound from working - you would just get an > >error message saying something to the tune of "file already exists", > >meaning that the functionality for which you are trying to load the module > >is already included in the kernel. > > > >>...Anyways this is the least of my problems. I now comment the lines: > >>device snd_sbc, device sound recomplie the kernel and keep getting cd9660: > >>device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error when I try to mount any of my CDs... > >>(music or data) > > > >You shouldn't try to mount music CDs since they don't contain any > >filesystem that can be mounted. The error message above is exactly what you > >get when you try to mount an audio CD. Mounting data CDs should work, > >though. > > > >Does the command 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' contain any text? > > > >>I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other > >>combinations : > >>mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 > >>/cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... > > > >At least *some* of the above commands should work ;-) > > > >>I even tried loading my old kernel (GENERIC) from /boot/kernel.old/kernel > >>(Btw, is this the same as the last recompile of MYKERNE?L... I think I > >>have compiled 3/4 times by now in the hopes that this would work) > > > >Yes, every time you build an install new kernel, the previous kernel is > >copied to kernel.old and previous kernel.old is wiped out. So it is well > >possible that you don't even have the original kernel with which things > >worked on your system any more. > > > >>HELP - I'm a newbie... I've got almost everything working with KDE > >>3.3...and now back to this. I was so happy when I could run cdcontrol from > >>the command line and now I'm :o( frustrated !! > > > >One more thing you could try is to get the GENERIC kernel from e.g. > >installation CDs and boot with that. > > > >-- > >Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- > >|arvutivõrgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| > >|Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | > >----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:22:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1E816A4CE; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:22:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0506643D5D; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j44DM4JF006446; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j44DM3gU006445; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200505041322.j44DM3gU006445@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: cool_mike_21@hotmail.com (Michael Neeff) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:22:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:22:26 -0000 > > Hey Toomas, > In followup to my prev. reply and your question. > Here is the output of the command: 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' > acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 > > Thanks. > PS: Kent, your suggestion is what I have already tried ...I've tried to > 'umount /cdrom' it doesn't do anything.... since BSD cannot find it... when > I go in /dev I do not see /cdrom there is only acd0, However when I try > mkdir cdrom under /dev it says it already exists...? ls -a doesn't show > anything. The intelligence behind the O/S is what amazes me...lol I haven't been following this thread so I may be jumping in out of order, but a comment on this post. You would not do a mkdir of anything in /dev. That directory is a special one for devices. acd0 is a device, for example. You want to mount this device to a mount point. To make a /cdrom mount mount, you would probably want to do mkdir cdrom in root, eg. cd / mkdir cdrom Then do something like mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom or probably more like: mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom But, that is for looking at files in a file system way. Probably, for sound, you don't want to mount the cd at all. I had sound in a FreeBSD 3.xxx a long time ago, but haven't bothered in several years with more recent version. So things may well have changed. I believe you do still need to have your kernel built with 'device snd'. Check in: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT or its 5.xxx equivalent (I don't have a 5.xxx handy at the moment to look at). ////jerry > > >From: Toomas Aas > >To: Michael Neeff > >CC: questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Can't play CD / mount CDROM > >Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:23:13 +0300 > > > >Hi Michael! > > > >I was hoping someone can give you a more definite answer, but it seems > >no-one knowledgeable has responded, so here are my comments, worth exactly > >what you paid for them :) > > > >>I've been trying since the past couple of days to get my sound back... it > >>all started when I followed the steps from the manual in setting up > >>statically sound drivers for my old Compaq DeskPro EN series...for FreeBSD > >>5.3. I included the "snd_sbc" driver, since when I kldload snd_driver it > >>comes up as ESS 1869 in my kernel file (MYKERNEL).. I also included the > >>line "device sound" in the MYKERNEL (customized kernel Chp. 7) for some > >>reason it doesn't work when I want to run mpg123... > > > >The above stuff seems roughly correct. That's how I built sound into kernel > >on my home PC, but I'm not at that PC now so I can't check my kernel > >config. > > > >What do you mean by "it doesn't work"? Do you get an error message? Or > >simply nothing happens? In the latter case, check your mixer settings, > >speaker volume knob and physical connections. > > > >After building sound into kernel, you can also remove the relevant module > >loading lines from /boot/loader.conf, but I think that even if you left > >them in it shouldn't prevent sound from working - you would just get an > >error message saying something to the tune of "file already exists", > >meaning that the functionality for which you are trying to load the module > >is already included in the kernel. > > > >>...Anyways this is the least of my problems. I now comment the lines: > >>device snd_sbc, device sound recomplie the kernel and keep getting cd9660: > >>device /dev/acd0 Input/Ouput error when I try to mount any of my CDs... > >>(music or data) > > > >You shouldn't try to mount music CDs since they don't contain any > >filesystem that can be mounted. The error message above is exactly what you > >get when you try to mount an audio CD. Mounting data CDs should work, > >though. > > > >Does the command 'grep acd0 /var/run/dmesg.boot' contain any text? > > > >>I've tried : mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom and several other > >>combinations : > >>mount cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom; mount cd9660; mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 > >>/cdrom; mount /cdrom - still the same thing... > > > >At least *some* of the above commands should work ;-) > > > >>I even tried loading my old kernel (GENERIC) from /boot/kernel.old/kernel > >>(Btw, is this the same as the last recompile of MYKERNE?L... I think I > >>have compiled 3/4 times by now in the hopes that this would work) > > > >Yes, every time you build an install new kernel, the previous kernel is > >copied to kernel.old and previous kernel.old is wiped out. So it is well > >possible that you don't even have the original kernel with which things > >worked on your system any more. > > > >>HELP - I'm a newbie... I've got almost everything working with KDE > >>3.3...and now back to this. I was so happy when I could run cdcontrol from > >>the command line and now I'm :o( frustrated !! > > > >One more thing you could try is to get the GENERIC kernel from e.g. > >installation CDs and boot with that. > > > >-- > >Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- > >|arvutivõrgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| > >|Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | > >----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:27:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F014C16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:27:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0CA43D72 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:27:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050504132712.WVVD13270.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:27:12 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Mrad James Deane" , Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:27:11 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Freebsd 4.11 cannot install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:27:28 -0000 Can you boot one of the other systems on that hard drive? If not then you have bad cable to HD or HD it self is going bad, so replace it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mrad James Deane Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:24 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Freebsd 4.11 cannot install hello i'm tryin to install freebsd 4.11 without succes. After configuring my kernel and starting to sysinstall the systems stops while detecting hardware in this section (this is the default message shown) ad0:Read commad timeout tag=0 serv=0 -resseting ata0: resetting devices. i don't know what to do to solve the problem , i know that the problem come from my hard drive because i have done several operation on it (partitions, ntfs/linux format) but i'm really in trouble i have succesfully instaledl freebsd 5.2 and 5.3 release with another partition that handle winxp . please help , thanks James Snipes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail : antivirus et antispam intégrés http://www.msn.fr/newhotmail/Default.asp?Ath=f _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:36:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A339416A4EE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:36:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A64743D54 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:36:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 9363 invoked from network); 4 May 2005 13:35:12 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 May 2005 13:35:12 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id BD3862F; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Dan Langille" References: <4277B05A.23926.1EA6293@localhost> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 04 May 2005 09:35:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4277B05A.23926.1EA6293@localhost> Message-ID: <447jift8q9.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fatal trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:36:21 -0000 "Dan Langille" writes: > Hi folks. My gateway has been getting this a few times a day for the > past few days. > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > More detail at http://www.langille.org/tmp/fatal-trap-12.txt > > Conversations to date indicate a hardware problem. Any > recommendations/suggestions? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#TRAP-12-PANIC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797B416A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E588743D4C for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryan.cavicchioni@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so194778wri for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:35:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h4vZef0t1VMz6+1RVEjwqt11hfQYOnDc3SvFLh+gLjacjBCd4nYXb7GxVesl2kisAlAeLvBpOrjXCa4nyqnbrpLd38Xo/qP7lwnhcnQ/G7nrgxg131pTtTxWc4na+gK/bE/ib2t3fCqzQSe67lDr7g2USgtEunzPgD1n6Z66+O8= Received: by 10.54.33.24 with SMTP id g24mr273594wrg; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.83? ([209.242.24.199]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g5sm799931wra.2005.05.04.06.29.18; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4278CF78.10801@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:34:48 -0500 From: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Keating References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:36:24 -0000 I would love to see a wiki for FreeBSD. I think that it would be really beneficial for the project. It would take some work to establish it but if there were enough participants, it could turn into a very robust documentation project. Some hard work would be required to make the wiki healthy and to police it but the spirit of a wiki is many users reviewing each other. Benjamin Keating wrote: >A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). >Some parts are out of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that >could really help. For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily >include a 'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into >reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your kernel >with IPFIREWALL support. > >Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. Idon't know about >you but I'd rather just add my new found info to the site rather find >a PR addy, submit it and wait for it to be added. We have software >that does this now. Lets use it! :) > >- bpk > >On 5/3/05, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:00:06PM -0700, Benjamin Keating wrote: >> >>>Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little >>>more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of >>>date. >> >>What is out of date? >> >>Generally, if you want to improve something in the handbook, just >>submit a PR. >> >>Kris >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Ryan Cavicchioni GPG ID: C271BCA8 GPG Public Key: http://confabulator.net/gpg/ryan.asc GPG Fingerprint: 83E4 2495 6194 0F66 ED85 22B4 4CC0 DA01 C271 BCA8 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:39:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6D316A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:39:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F8143D5D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:39:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0153D45; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:39:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42789858.14925.2E94DF9@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <447jift8q9.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4277B05A.23926.1EA6293@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fatal trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:39:55 -0000 On 4 May 2005 at 9:35, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Dan Langille" writes: > > > Hi folks. My gateway has been getting this a few times a day for the > > past few days. > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > > > More detail at http://www.langille.org/tmp/fatal-trap-12.txt > > > > Conversations to date indicate a hardware problem. Any > > recommendations/suggestions? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#TRAP-12-PANIC Thanks! Perhaps after BSDCan I can get time to do this. cheers -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ NEW brochure available at http://www.bsdcan.org/2005/advocacy/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:42:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A6216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:42:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (174.113.sn.ct.dsl.thebiz.net [216.238.113.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12343D5A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:42:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlists@mgm51.com) Received: from XPMM (unknown [63.119.50.193]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806A0BA300 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200505040912090592.03B6BBC1@sentry.24cl.com> In-Reply-To: <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.00.1081 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:12:09 -0400 From: "MikeM" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:42:17 -0000 On 5/3/2005 at 5:29 PM Benjamin Keating wrote: |A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). |Some parts are out of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that |could really help. For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily |include a 'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into |reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your kernel |with IPFIREWALL support. | |Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. Idon't know about |you but I'd rather just add my new found info to the site rather find |a PR addy, submit it and wait for it to be added. We have software |that does this now. Lets use it! :) ============= When I found a spot in the Handbook that was a bit sparce, I send in an email describing what I was looking for, what I found, and what i expected to find. The Handbook was updated within a few days, and the update was much better than what I could have written. Maybe a wiki would supplement the Handbook, rather than replace it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 14:22:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE43316A4D6 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:22:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4549343D79 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:22:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dnasoc@swbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO dawson6dr3ohvp) (dnasoc@swbell.net@69.151.245.106 with login) by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2005 14:21:29 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c550b4$8f3c0d60$6501a8c0@dawson6dr3ohvp> From: "Randy Dawson" To: References: <4c90b772050502234549589928@mail.gmail.com> <444qdknvg7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4c90b77205050323211773e6e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:21:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 NVIDIA-1.0.7174 GLX extension problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:22:19 -0000 The new driver (March 31, 2005 release: NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-7174.tar.gz) downloaded from Nvidia's site works great in 5.3. you have to sysinstall and install the kernel sources for its make to work, or you will get this error: cant find: /usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk Remember to update your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the driver "nv" to "nvidia" enjoy the open gl screensavers! Randy Dawson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soheil Hassas Yeganeh" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:21 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 NVIDIA-1.0.7174 GLX extension problem I had installed the nvidia-1.0.7174 from nvidia. I had used 1.0-6113 from ports. It works nice. But i wanted just to upgrade to the new NVIDIA Version. On 03 May 2005 12:08:40 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Soheil Hassas Yeganeh writes: > > > I have problem using NVIDIA-1.0.7174. > > It failed to load GLX. What i can do for this? > > > > This is a warnings and errors of my X.org log > > > > (WW) NV(0): Option "CursorShadow" is not used > > (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) > > I have attached the complete X.org log > > It turns out that you have not. > > My guess is that you need to use the nvidia driver (available from > ports) instead of the nv one that comes with X.org. > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 14:33:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7257916A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:33:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C106843D5D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:33:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pcgeek86@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so176204wra for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:32:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CrV9n2lkWpP86vszvI/aj9owiG96jY3T0UdlMgvc5mWnFaWy5WMwY83XM1sOb0vgoB+SZrj7kaHM5gcWEH3yHEJuxR+ngCWVLOpveHecckhcM/7p3pPaqdt6+E7Cbr3RrKTi/kQc129RSSdIhBwoCbSfGg+tqrDmP9LT18Q9eF4= Received: by 10.54.69.15 with SMTP id r15mr198777wra; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.100.100.15? ([66.93.248.53]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 9sm795177wrl.2005.05.04.07.32.59; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4278DFC2.5060109@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:44:18 -0500 From: Trevor Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> <4278CF78.10801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4278CF78.10801@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:33:34 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ryan J. Cavicchioni wrote: > I would love to see a wiki for FreeBSD. I think that it would be > really beneficial for the project. It would take some work to > establish it but if there were enough participants, it could turn > into a very robust documentation project. Some hard work would be > required to make the wiki healthy and to police it but the spirit > of a wiki is many users reviewing each other. > > Benjamin Keating wrote: > >> A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). Some parts are out >> of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that could really >> help. For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily include a >> 'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into >> reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your >> kernel with IPFIREWALL support. >> >> Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. Idon't know >> about you but I'd rather just add my new found info to the site >> rather find a PR addy, submit it and wait for it to be added. We >> have software that does this now. Lets use it! :) >> >> - bpk >> >> On 5/3/05, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>> On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:00:06PM -0700, Benjamin Keating >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a >>>> little more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content >>>> wasn't so out of date. >>> >>> What is out of date? >>> >>> Generally, if you want to improve something in the handbook, >>> just submit a PR. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >> unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Wiki's in general are a great idea, I agree. However, you must still consider that anyone can add to a wiki, and the content within could become very cumbersome to maintain. It would (still) require the FreeBSD development team considerable time to verify what is in it and make sure that it isn't going to throw people off. For official documentation, I would have to say that a wiki is not the best idea (unless it is exclusively maintained by the FreeBSD team). Don't get me wrong, wiki's are really cool, but if you want to get down to the facts in official documentation, you can't allow it to get out of hand. My 2 cents...any thoughts? :-) - -Trevor -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCeN/CoGycRpOgdeERAu0yAJ9nPTcBrW5unJyr4ljWd03t/+a2UgCdHnp0 7tT7lRLsLqHJnmMCZBtLOjU= =BdIK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 14:54:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3403816A50F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:54:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38F943D41 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stevenrhowe@comcast.net) Received: from lucky7 (c-24-147-47-215.hsd1.nh.comcast.net[24.147.47.215]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <200505041453460150050fo3e>; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:53:50 +0000 From: "Steven R Howe" To: "'Alex Teslik'" , Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:53:17 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c550b9$04b17e00$020a0a0a@lucky7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <20050504021412.M91151@acatysmoof.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: dynamically limit ip connections to ports over time? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:54:26 -0000 Alex, You may want to consider using an IDS such as Snort. There is a plugin called SnortSam (www.snortsam.net) which will accomplish what you want to do. Here is text copied from the front page of their website: "SnortSam is a plugin for Snort, an open-source light-weight Intrusion Detection System (IDS). The plugin allows for automated blocking of IP addresses on following firewalls: # Checkpoint Firewall-1 # Cisco PIX firewalls # Cisco Routers (using ACL's or Null-Routes) # Former Netscreen, now Juniper firewalls # IP Filter (ipf), available for various Unix-like OS'es such as FreeBSD # FreeBSD's ipfw2 (in 5.x) # OpenBSD's Packet Filter (pf) # Linux IPchains # Linux IPtables # Linux EBtables # WatchGuard Firebox firewalls # 8signs firewalls for Windows # MS ISA Server firewall/proxy for Windows # CHX packet filter # ...and more to come There are several other programs in the ports collection. But I recommend Snort. Good Luck!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alex Teslik Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:33 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: dynamically limit ip connections to ports over time? Hi all, I have been running a FreeBSD box for a few years. Over this time spammers and other unfriendlies have found my box and have been attacking at a slowly increasing rate. Every night the daily periodic scripts run and report to me the number of rejected mail hosts. Last week, one of the rejected mail hosts had the number of rejections listed at 3000. My hard drive has been getting louder and louder as it gets busier rejecting and logging all of these and now I would like to do something about it... but I'm not sure what I can do. When the hard drive is at its busiest I see mail being virus and spam scanned at a dizzying rate (tail -f /var/log/maillog), hence the hard drive grinding. What I would LIKE to do is allow any ip to connect to a port for a specified number of times per minute. If they connect too many times than I would like to freeze them out for a specified amount of time. This solution should be dynamic so that I don't need to constantly monitor the offending ip addresses. Originally, I thought I would attach a sendmail milter to do this, since mail cannons are my main problem right now. I looked at: http://www.milter.info/milter-limit/index.shtml but it requires manually adding a rule for each ip. Then I considered grey-listing: http://www.milter.info/milter-gris/index.shtml but I don't want to reject messages and cause mail delivery delays on my system. Finally, it occurred to me that the firewall would probably be a better solution and would have the nice side effect of limiting traffic to other ports as well. To try to accomplish this I have been reading a lot of IPFilter rules via google and lists, but I havn't found any that seems that it can do what I describe above - limit by ip over time. I'm sure this is not a unique problem - can someone point me in a helpful direction? Many Thanks P.S.- please cc my email address as I am not subscribed. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 14:55:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC3816A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:55:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Thunder.asus.com.tw (rev.asus.com.tw [61.66.197.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B3243D3F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:55:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Phoenix_Chang@asus.com.tw) Received: from TP-EX-14.corpnet.asus ([172.21.128.145]) by Thunder.asus.com.tw with ESMTP id j44EskuR018166 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:54:48 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from Phoenix_Chang@asus.com.tw) Received: from tp-ex-15.corpnet.asus ([172.21.128.146]) by TP-EX-14.corpnet.asus with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 4 May 2005 22:57:24 +0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:57:23 +0800 Message-ID: <947852CC19824A4092E9B4C3CE39D14809B0A1@tp-ex-15.corpnet.asus> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [BTX Halted] Install FreeBSD revision 5.3 on SCSI HDD Thread-Index: AcVQuZQUnFUwF07VQxyfqV2LJqChhw== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2005 14:57:24.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[94F2A930:01C550B9] X-MAIL: Thunder.asus.com.tw j44EskuR018166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: [BTX Halted] Install FreeBSD revision 5.3 on SCSI HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:55:38 -0000 Dear sir : =20 I can't install FreeBSD revision 5.3 on SCSI HDD. Configuration :=20 1. Intel chipset CanterWood + Hance Rapids 2. Intel CPU 478 3. Unbuffer DDR memory 256MB 4. SCSI card(both LSI & Adaptec) with one Hard disk drive 5. Legacy CD-ROM Boot from CD-ROM(FreeBSD 5.3) to install FreeBSD into SCSI HDD. No matter plug SCSI card to PCI-X slot or PCI slot. =20 =20 Here's the error : =20 Boot from CD: CD Loader 1.2 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT /LOADER ... Found : ----- I can't see the message clearly ! =20 int=3D0000000d err=3D0000000 efl=3D00010046 eip=3D000090db eax=3D00000011 ebx=3D00000700 ecx=3D00000000 edx=3D00000080 esi=3D0000000c edi=3D00000000 ebp=3D00000000 esp=3D00001800 cs=3D0008 ds=3D0000 es=3D0000 fs=3D0000 gs=3D0000 ss=3D0010 cs:eip=3D0f 01 15 d0 96 00 00 66 - ea e8 90 18 00 b1 20 8e d1 8e d9 8e c1 8e e1 8e - e9 48 0f 22 c0 ea fd 90 ss:esp=3D0a 69 6e 74 3d 30 30 30 - 30 30 30 30 64 20 20 65 72 72 3d 30 30 30 30 30 - 30 30 30 20 20 65 66 6c BTX halted Loop the red text ! =20 =20 I have no idea what the loader doing at this time. Could you have some information can provide to me ? Many thanks ! =20 Best Regards, Phoenix Chang AsusTek COMPUTER INC. Tel: 886-2-28943447 Ext: 3008 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 15:14:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741EB16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:14:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E512643D69 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2314AC26; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:11:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:15:33 +0200 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: dayton@brooklyn.cuny.edu Message-ID: <20050504151533.GA1191@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 15:14:44 -0000 On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 08:54:10AM -0400, dayton@brooklyn.cuny.edu wrote: > A compromise approach could be to do what www.php.net does. On this site > they have the official manual, which has the same flaws as the FBSD handbook > (out of date pages, obtuse descriptions, ...). In addition, postings from > users are attached to each page. These postings often contain information > more pertinent to a particular query than the manual page itself. > > With this scheme, it is easy for a manual user to distinguish the "official" > information from the information from general users. So one can apply the > appropriate mental filters on the information. FWIW, enabling discussions like these on otherwise more tightly controlled pages is fairly trivial in Plone (http://plone.org/). If someone would like to set up a plone site with the handbook as content, and with enabled discussions, perhaps the official handbook pages could point to the inofficial pages which would also contain the discussions (links like: -> user discussions)? Wether linked to or not, the REAL problem here would be that the handbook gets updated now and then, and keeping the plone site (together with its discussions) in sync with the official handbook looks like a major time sink and will soon be abandoned eventually. > I am sure there is some monitoring and selection of posts by some > responsible people. But the effort involved should be considerably less > than that required for the Wikipedia model. > > dayton Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 15:40:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079E716A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:40:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0BA43D5C for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:40:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from [71.3.6.248] (helo=kt.weeble.com) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DTLaw-0000mV-IR; Wed, 04 May 2005 11:15:27 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UQ/zM/utrrkaz6pgCdjINo0Ld9UL98C8ecm6a72gBcnUr2ZlY3v3PnZRdafGQVkd; Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:15:23 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: "MikeM" Message-Id: <20050504111523.335e3592.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <200505040912090592.03B6BBC1@sentry.24cl.com> References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> <200505040912090592.03B6BBC1@sentry.24cl.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 96132b9c1759af1df21c5f5255d6c174239a348a220c260997ada1ba714b2f9434f299d051e3a534a7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.3.6.248 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 15:40:35 -0000 On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:12:09 -0400 "MikeM" wrote: > On 5/3/2005 at 5:29 PM Benjamin Keating wrote: > > |A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). > |Some parts are out of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that > |could really help. For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily > |include a 'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into > |reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your kernel > |with IPFIREWALL support. > | > |Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. Idon't know about > |you but I'd rather just add my new found info to the site rather find > |a PR addy, submit it and wait for it to be added. We have software > |that does this now. Lets use it! :) > ============= > > When I found a spot in the Handbook that was a bit sparce, I send in an > email describing what I was looking for, what I found, and what i expected > to find. The Handbook was updated within a few days, and the update was > much better than what I could have written. > > > Maybe a wiki would supplement the Handbook, rather than replace it. > There's some benefits to the present documentation approach that are being overlooked. It has a revision control system. This enables you to obtain a version of a handbook for any given date thru CVS. This magic is also what allows you to update your local documentation and use a minimum of bandwidth. It can produce output in a number of formats (HTML, PDF, PS, etc) from a single set of sources. Don't forget that the FreeBSD Handbook is also published occasionally from these same sources. The documentation is available in a variety of languages due to the efforts of the translation teams. They use the revision control system to determine when updated translations are needed. The documentation is available as part of the system and web access isn't required. It can also be freely distributed whereas I'm not sure who owns the content of a wiki. As others have mentioned, peer review is very important especially with documentation. The wording and syntax needs to be very clear since many users do not speak english as a first language. I'm probably overlooking some other aspects of the benefits but the present system does produce documentation that many consider to be the best of any comprable OS's. Granted, the centralized approach to documentation doesn't produce instant gratification that a wiki might but it seems to lend itself well for a variety of uses in a quality manner. In the end, its the content that is important and not the method. It probably doesn't take any more time on the part of a user to fill out a wiki-form than it takes to send-pr. There might be some niche that a wiki might be useful but I'd need to see a rough implementation showing how it addresses something that is lacking in the present method. There's always room for improvement. I just thought I'd throw a few things out for thought before we continue building the Big Bikeshed ;-) Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 15:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C47916A4DC for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:56:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A1543D31 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:56:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) id j44FpTlJ009068; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j44FpR75009661; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7800270b24fa24c9238a32311b643059@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:51:27 -0400 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mail/sendmail submit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 15:56:06 -0000 On May 3, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > I am trying to allow mail submission and sending on a 5.3-RELEASE box > from inside a jail, but not a running MTA... > [ ... ] > When I try to do a mail on the command line, I get: > > root@machine:/home/chad# can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): > Permission denied > Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser. > > Where do I set this TrustedUser and how do I make the mail program > work as a TrustedUser? You might do better to run the MSA as normal, not from within the jail, but from the base system. This will give you a mail submission agent listening on localhost and a queue runner to flush the /var/spool/clientmqueue/. If you don't run the MSA as a daemon, you'll need to schedule a queue runner via cron, or else any mail being submitted will probably just get left in that spool directory and never get sent onwards. The other option would be to make sendmail setuid-root, which will solve the permissions problem and let it queue or forward mail via SMTP directly. Of course, there's a security tradeoff being made in doing so, but if you're using a jail, you've already set up restrictions... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 16:24:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3B016A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:24:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EE443D82 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryan.cavicchioni@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so297384wri for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:23:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=obUfo3zxCg4dGa7q9Jvu+myw5W5exiFXKToB3CDvi3ZC7VAisTHAZH/GGY+SlO7vFfuxUfTLS9KJZOuGPHqeW51MzJWA3c3W77/fdJcQ9rqV9mxz9Z3bfMlOQeVRLxRimM3XzwUVtxRKK36y+zDvKE0TRtoiVLN6/RenEWPwbe0= Received: by 10.54.57.8 with SMTP id f8mr251603wra; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.83? ([209.242.24.199]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 34sm428568wra.2005.05.04.09.23.12; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4278F839.2010703@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:28:41 -0500 From: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> <200505040912090592.03B6BBC1@sentry.24cl.com> In-Reply-To: <200505040912090592.03B6BBC1@sentry.24cl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 16:24:54 -0000 MikeM wrote: > On 5/3/2005 at 5:29 PM Benjamin Keating wrote: > > |A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). |Some parts are out > of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that |could really help. > For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily |include a > 'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into > |reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your > kernel |with IPFIREWALL support. | |Things like that bring noise to > this mailing list. Idon't know about |you but I'd rather just add > my new found info to the site rather find |a PR addy, submit it and > wait for it to be added. We have software |that does this now. Lets > use it! :) ============= > > When I found a spot in the Handbook that was a bit sparce, I send > in an email describing what I was looking for, what I found, and > what i expected to find. The Handbook was updated within a few > days, and the update was much better than what I could have > written. > > > Maybe a wiki would supplement the Handbook, rather than replace it. > Now I think that would be a better idea. It would be cool to have a very active handbook wiki but just like forums, starting and running a successful one is not easy work. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Ryan Cavicchioni GPG ID: C271BCA8 GPG Public Key: http://confabulator.net/gpg/ryan.asc GPG Fingerprint: 83E4 2495 6194 0F66 ED85 22B4 4CC0 DA01 C271 BCA8 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 17:00:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E23116A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E547143D7E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:00:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calvin.lane@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so199900rng for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EaCs8Yw/g3nDZZ3mJ1s9jOzDX0qnSZqwFE70vqEh/Gd8aK+aQFfkTbVYCSHNr9LnELWMPJTqBp0KxZ/P4H8tTwGxnNONn1szkkGlAY5GPMB0EYef/sdLKeb8YVajKtV74LpdunXkEYaI/wFZg7UokGDbm9VpqND8BrZFcjNnDck= Received: by 10.38.6.75 with SMTP id 75mr1342035rnf; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.76.22 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <995be75e05050409591da23458@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:59:31 -0700 From: Calvin Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Allowing GRE in IPFILTER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Calvin Lane List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:00:11 -0000 Hello everyone, I've recently installed and configured mpd. I've been able to establish VPN= =20 connections with no problem internally on my network. When I attempt to=20 establish a connection through my firewall, I get a number of error=20 messages. The problem is that I'm not allowing GRE to get through on my=20 firewall. Here is currently what I have: pass in quick on xl0 proto gre from any to 192.168.10.253/24 pass out quick on xl0 proto gre from 192.168.10.253/24to any Please let me know what the correct syntax is for allowing gre traffic=20 through through an ipfilter firewall running BSD 4.10. Thanks. Calvin calvin.lane@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 17:04:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6093016A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from md3.nss.udel.edu (md3.nss.udel.edu [128.175.1.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4CE43D83 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:03:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lluo@eecis.udel.edu) Received: from eecis.udel.edu (ppp-as34-28.nss.udel.edu [128.175.241.48]) by md3.nss.udel.edu (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id AYP35120 (AUTH via LOGINBEFORESMTP); Wed, 4 May 2005 13:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42790067.7060307@eecis.udel.edu> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 13:03:35 -0400 From: Lei Luo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where tcp_timer_rexmt() is called? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:04:00 -0000 Hello, Does anyone know where the TCP retransmission function tcp_timer_rexmt() is called? In other words, where is the code that checks if a timer is timed out? In BSD4.3, there is a function called tcp_timers() in tcp_timer.c. But in the recent release, the function is removed. But where the functionality is placed now? Thanks, Louis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 17:28:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E827016A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:28:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD9D43D31 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:28:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id j44HS6JM004505; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:28:06 +0300 Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 4 May 05 20:28:08 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 4 May 05 20:27:45 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (192.168.1.2) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 4 May 05 20:27:45 +0300 Message-ID: <42790613.2070809@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:27:47 +0300 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Calvin Lane References: <995be75e05050409591da23458@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <995be75e05050409591da23458@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Allowing GRE in IPFILTER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:28:37 -0000 Calvin Lane wrote: > Please let me know what the correct syntax is for allowing gre traffic = > through through an ipfilter firewall running BSD 4.10. Thanks. FreeBSD 4.10 contains IPFilter 3.4.31. For what you need to do, you need = PPTP proxy which is available only in IPFilter 4.1. So you'd need to install the latest IPFilter (4.1.8 I think) and then=20 just add this to ipnat.rules: map -> 0/32 proxy port 1723 pptp/tcp --=20 Toomas Aas -------------------------------------------------------- |arvutiv=F5rgu peaspetsialist | head specialist on computer networks| |Tartu Linnakantselei | Tartu City Office | ----------------------------------------------------- +372 736 1274 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 17:32:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DD916A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:32:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2031543D5E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:32:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9902388C41; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:59:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:59:14 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" , FreeBSD Message-ID: <8D1C2A81EF65E08642626856@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> References: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: installing big qmail server ... where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:32:40 -0000 --On Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:58:39 PM +0200 "Matthias F. Brandstetter" wrote: > Hi all, > > I have to plan and setup a mail solution for about 50.000 users, here are > some key features requested by our customer: > > - self coded webfrontend w/ webmail and administration (filter, alias > etc) I'm not sure what you mean by self coded. Squirrelmail is a webmail front end that meets the requirements you've mentioned. There are others as well. - 100MB quota per user I would recommend that you put the mailboxes on a separate partition - perhaps even put var on a separate drive - and you should probably use RAID0 at least. > - autoresponder > - about 50.000 user > - online backup of data Without knowing if you're local or remote, it's hard to say. I do backups on a remote server using rsync to a local disk and rsync over ssh to a remote disk. The local backups make it easy to restore something in a pinch. The remote backups ensure that I don't lose data if the server crashes and both disks are toast. > - some more featuers for web frontend Like what? > > Since I happily use qmail for some other (but smaller) installations, I > want to try it with qmail here for this project as well. My only problem > is, I have no clue where to start ... beginning from "should I use 2 > redundant and really strong or some more but cheaper servers?" to "which > qmail distributions and patches should I use (ldap, mysql, ...)?" and > "how to store data (mails) and do online backup w/o downtime?". > Mail servers have a lot of I/O so you should use SCSI disks, if possible. RAID mirroring at least. I think LDAP would make user admin a lot easier. Mysql would probably help as well, given the number of users. I'm not sure I know what you mean by "store data (mails). If you're using qmail, set up IMAP and the mails are stored in maildir (I think). You can create a virtual user so you don't have to have /home/{uid} for all 50,000 users. Surely there's a doc on the web that walks you through all of this? No sense in reinventing the wheel..... Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 17:48:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9B716A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:48:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAAA43D5D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:48:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050504174833.MDGF13270.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:48:33 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:48:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Creating an Installation CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:48:46 -0000 In the handbook section "2.13.1 Creating an Installation CDROM" it states that there is an mini.iso file which contains everything needed to install FreeBSD. I do not see this file on the FreeBSD FTP download sites for 5.3 or 5.4 RC4. What happened to this small iso file. What is the new name for this small install iso file. It's my understanding that it was built small for people who use a modem to connect to the internet. Why is it no longer there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 17:53:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169E816A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:53:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B7643D6D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:53:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9965 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTO3e-000MD5-26; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:53:15 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82E81543F7; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:55:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ECB58CC11; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:53:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:53:12 +0200 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com Message-Id: <20050504195312.228ecd7f.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creating an Installation CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:53:26 -0000 On Wed, 4 May 2005 13:48:32 -0400 "fbsd_user" wrote: > In the handbook section "2.13.1 Creating an Installation CDROM" it > states that there is an mini.iso file which contains everything > needed to install FreeBSD. I do not see this file on the FreeBSD FTP > download sites for 5.3 or 5.4 RC4. What happened to this small iso > file. What is the new name for this small install iso file. It's my > understanding that it was built small for people who use a modem to > connect to the internet. Why is it no longer there. hmm, e.g. here it's available : ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.3/ ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.3/5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:01:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E43E16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:01:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF55743D5A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:01:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3617B4BD44; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:58:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:02:59 +0200 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-ID: <20050504180259.GA8575@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <20050504115056.CA4A54BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050504115056.CA4A54BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A make world/kernel interface? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:01:25 -0000 On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 06:50:56AM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > Would it be a good idea having some sort of interface for > those who desire to have their system updating (make world and > kernel) made interactive? I am not talking a GUI here, but > something that can make it more convenient: Hmmm, what about automatically taking /usr/src/UPDATING into account? Seriously: the make buildworld dance is normally pretty simple and scriptable. BUT you should still eyeball UPDATING and take actions manually, when it is needed. How would that fit into an interactive UI, besides merely displaying UPDATING entries in a parallel window? > 1. Put the entire process under one roof. > 2. Be able to see the completion percentage > 3. Be able to halt/resume the process > 4. I'm sure there would be many other upsides to this > > I hope somebody can turn this into something viable. > > Thanks! > > -- > > Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Senior Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Furious @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:08:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA85816A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:08:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FB243D77 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:08:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271D0114FC; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:01:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42790F19.201@chuckr.org> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:06:17 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trevor Sullivan References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <20050504001546.GA64854@xor.obsecurity.org> <781e2bc005050317295898d640@mail.gmail.com> <4278CF78.10801@gmail.com> <4278DFC2.5060109@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4278DFC2.5060109@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:08:20 -0000 Trevor Sullivan wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 know it's off-topic, but I thought it might surprise some folks, and it's possible it could prove important to some, I guess. Notice the words above, about him using the sha-1 hash. You realize it's been broken? The crypto world is unambiguous about it, and firmly reocmmening that everyone immediately move over to using the sha256, which is already implemented on FreeBSD. Since it's already here, and hopefully possible (maybe) to modify your amil system to use it, I thought I would toss in the data here. If you would like (as I usually do) to read it from the hourses mouth, Bruce Schneier is the best authority around, and here's his take on it: http://http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/sha1_broken.htmlwww.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/sha1_broken.html BTW, if you haven't bought his "Applied Cryptography", shame on you. He wrote this thing, and it alone tosses his name up against lights such as Richard Stevens, because he explains ALL of the horrible math, explains all of the algorithms in detail enouigh to program from, actually manages to make it entertaining, and I hope he lives forever. > > Ryan J. Cavicchioni wrote: > > >>I would love to see a wiki for FreeBSD. I think that it would be >>really beneficial for the project. It would take some work to >>establish it but if there were enough participants, it could turn >>into a very robust documentation project. Some hard work would be >>required to make the wiki healthy and to police it but the spirit >>of a wiki is many users reviewing each other. >> >>Benjamin Keating wrote: >> >> >>>A wiki would eliminate that bottle neck (PR). Some parts are out >>>of date. Others fail to mention FAQ , etc. that could really >>>help. For instance, the NAT/DHCP articles could easily include a >>>'typical home user' HOWTO rather then tricking the user into >>>reading that one line where it says you have to recompile your >>>kernel with IPFIREWALL support. >>> >>>Things like that bring noise to this mailing list. Idon't know >>>about you but I'd rather just add my new found info to the site >>>rather find a PR addy, submit it and wait for it to be added. We >>>have software that does this now. Lets use it! :) >>> >>>- bpk >>> >>>On 5/3/05, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:00:06PM -0700, Benjamin Keating >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a >>>>>little more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content >>>>>wasn't so out of date. >>>> >>>>What is out of date? >>>> >>>>Generally, if you want to improve something in the handbook, >>>>just submit a PR. >>>> >>>>Kris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >>>unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> > Wiki's in general are a great idea, I agree. However, you must still > consider that anyone can add to a wiki, and the content within could > become very cumbersome to maintain. It would (still) require the > FreeBSD development team considerable time to verify what is in it and > make sure that it isn't going to throw people off. For official > documentation, I would have to say that a wiki is not the best idea > (unless it is exclusively maintained by the FreeBSD team). Don't get > me wrong, wiki's are really cool, but if you want to get down to the > facts in official documentation, you can't allow it to get out of > hand. My 2 cents...any thoughts? :-) > > - -Trevor > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) > > iD8DBQFCeN/CoGycRpOgdeERAu0yAJ9nPTcBrW5unJyr4ljWd03t/+a2UgCdHnp0 > 7tT7lRLsLqHJnmMCZBtLOjU= > =BdIK > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:12:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A427716A4CE; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:12:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5E243D41; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp@uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2] (may be forged)) by uucp.dinoex.sub.de (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j44IC9Rv033841; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:12:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from citylink.dinoex.sub.org (uucp@localhost) j44IC9tF033840; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:12:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) j44HILOW006380; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:18:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j44HH3wD006315; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:17:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j44HH3Hv006314; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:17:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:17:02 +0200 From: Peter Much To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050504171702.GA3319@gate.oper.dinoex.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.sub.de; Sender-ip: 194.45.71.2; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.sub.de;) Subject: port-fetch, ftp passive, and port priority X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:12:30 -0000 Hi all, some internet providers use a "feature" called "port priority" to slow down filesharing programs. The problem is, ftp transfers in passive mode are also slowed down by this "feature" (and ftp transfers in classical active mode are usually out of question because one has to open any firewall for them to work). There is a nice option for the "fetch" utilitiy, so that one can use passive ftp and still get around the providers "port priority" thruput throttle. One can put the variable FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=-U into /etc/make.conf for this to work on port-builds, or when calling "fetch" from the commandline, use the option "-U". (Only the root user is allowed to use this option, otherwise permission is denied.) I'm posting this, because it seems no one knows about this option: it actually does not work: although the option exists and gets handed thru the various functions, the code to do the real work is missing! I have just added some necessary code, and now it works for me as intended, and I have sent a bug-report, so I hope this will be implemented soon. Interim, my fix is published in bugreport bin/80620 PMc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:22:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC1116A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:22:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF4E43D55 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:22:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D45120D2; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4279128B.9080106@chuckr.org> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:20:59 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> <20050504041730.GA45260@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050504041730.GA45260@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Vitaly Bogdanov cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building kernel without some modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:22:43 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:03:49AM +0500, Vitaly Bogdanov wrote: > >>Hi. >>Is it possible to build kernel without compiling unnecessary modules? >>My system - freebsd5.3. > > > See make.conf(5) That wasn't very nice. It's not that it's wrong, but the fella sounded to me like he was asking if a target existed, and not everyone is familiar with our make. Responding like you did had the sole function of trying to shut off any other responses, and was just not helpful at all to the querent. I honestly consider that what's happened to our make, the slow code changes that have just ruined it for cross-platform portability, to be scandolous (sp?). There was no reason that the stuff needed to go into using all those specialized libraries that exist nowhere else but FreeBSD. We have a functionally very , very nice make, but it's not so good that it knocks out the competition ... gmake has more than a few points that are definitely superior than ours (as the reverse is also true). Making it so totally non-portable was a great example of bad spartsmanship. I can't say that Linux isn't equally guilty of it, heck, more so, but that doesn't excuse it, sorry. > > Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:48:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC6B16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:48:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.ixpres.com (smtp3.ixpres.com [216.240.160.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997DD43D6A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nospamme_vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from webmail.ixpres.com (webmail.ixpres.com [216.240.160.200]) by smtp3.ixpres.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j47ICjC06849; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:12:45 -0700 Received: from 64.58.171.86 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vizion@ixpres.com) by webmail.ixpres.com with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1281.64.58.171.86.1115232663.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <001101c550b4$8f3c0d60$6501a8c0@dawson6dr3ohvp> References: <4c90b772050502234549589928@mail.gmail.com><444qdknvg7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4c90b77205050323211773e6e0@mail.gmail.com> <001101c550b4$8f3c0d60$6501a8c0@dawson6dr3ohvp> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:51:03 -0700 (PDT) From: nospamme_vizion@ixpres.com To: "Randy Dawson" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBsd : Abit AV-20 Unichrome & XFree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nospamme_vizion@ixpres.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:48:36 -0000 I am returning to FreeBsd after an absense of years nd find myself trying to remember how to ride this "bike" with all its new bells & whistles. I have an Abit AV-20 M/B that has an integrated Unichrome Pro Graphics with 2D/3D video controller. I am trying to install XFree onto FreeBSD 5.3 and am having trouble getting X11R6.4.5. to work. It seems I need a driver and noticed that in a discussion on the topic: FreeBSD 5.3 NVIDIA-1.0.7174 GLX extension problem Twas said by Randy Dawson: --------- > The new driver (March 31, 2005 release: > NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-7174.tar.gz) > downloaded from Nvidia's site works great in 5.3. > you have to sysinstall and install the kernel sources for its make to > work, > or you will get this error: > cant find: > /usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk > Remember to update your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the driver "nv" to > "nvidia" ---------- I wondered if there is a similar driver for the Unichrome. Also some more detailed instructions for the sequence of commands needed to successfully add new drivers and carry out the sysinstall would be much appreciated. Thanks David David Southwell Ham call sign M0TAU ****Remove nospamme_ from reply to ****** 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing May bound for Europe via Panama Canal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:58:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F2616A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:58:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iqara.net (sendmail.iqara.net [203.187.192.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0C143D31 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:58:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 13946 invoked by uid 517); 4 May 2005 17:09:51 -0000 Received: from shantanoo@gmail.com by sendmail.iqara.net by uid 505 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (avgd: ???. Clear:RC:1(219.91.153.219):. Processed in 0.017357 secs); 04 May 2005 17:09:51 -0000 Received: from 219-153.91.219.cable-client.iqara.net (HELO dhumketu.homeunix.net) ([219.91.153.219]) (envelope-sender ) by iqara.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 May 2005 17:09:51 -0000 Received: by dhumketu.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 555F46AEB; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:00:51 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:00:51 +0530 From: Shantanoo Mahajan To: Tomas Quintero Message-ID: <20050504173051.GA1146@dhumketu.homeunix.net> References: <20050503170422.20863.qmail@web51708.mail.yahoo.com> <9e46c99e05050311364318bc1f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e05050311364318bc1f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Hmmm... I dunno X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 i386 X-UPTIME: 10:59PM up 1:05, 0 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.10, 0.04 X-Mailer-Website: http://www.mutt.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Andrei Iarus Subject: Re: Multiple routes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:58:54 -0000 +++ Tomas Quintero [freebsd] [03-05-05 14:36 -0400]: | On 5/3/05, Andrei Iarus wrote: | > How can I have multiple gateways, and, all the packets | > to be sent using all the gateways simultaneously under | > FreeBSD 4.11? Is this possible only modyfing the | > kernel? :) Thank you very much for your help. | | Under 5.3-RELEASE I have 3 DSL connections set to round-robin using | PF. Under 4.11 I had used IPF and IPNAT and had half of the net range | set to utilize one gateway, the other half to use another. I find the | PF round-robin solution to be much more effective. I am unsure if you | can use IPF/IPFW to round-robin nat, at least as easily as PF. | | In short though, you won't need to modify your kernel, short of | including whichever firewall module you choose to utilize. | | I'm curious, when you say simultaneously, do you mean you want the | same duplicated data to be sent out all of your gateways at the same | time? 'man ng_one2many' on 5.x Regards, Shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 19:03:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAAA16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:03:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tco2.iaminsane.net (dsl017-004-081.ser1.dsl.speakeasy.net [69.17.4.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375B543D66 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:03:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rem@thecompanyonline.com) Received: from [10.50.30.140] ([216.109.255.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by tco2.iaminsane.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j44IjZ9V040092 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:45:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rem@thecompanyonline.com) Message-ID: <42791C3A.6060909@thecompanyonline.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 15:02:18 -0400 From: Richard Mcintyre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <427804CE.2000107@thecompanyonline.com> In-Reply-To: <427804CE.2000107@thecompanyonline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sendmail with sasl2 build fails. *FIX* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:03:08 -0000 Richard Mcintyre wrote: > All, > > I've checked the mailing lists and it appears that this has been a > problem for other people in the past, but I can't seem to fix the > issue I'm having. > > I have installed cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd from ports. > > I then added the following to /etc/make.conf: > # SASL (cyrus-sasl v2) sendmail build flags... > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 > SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS+= -L/usr/local/lib > SENDMAIL_LDADD+= -lsasl2 > # Adding to enable alternate port (smtps) for sendmail... > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL > > Then, I attempted to rebuild sendmail, I have tried both of the > following steps... > First I tried: > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail > # make clean > # make depend > # make > # make install > > When that failed I tried: > # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm > # make obj > # make depend > # make > # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil > # make obj > # make depend > # make > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail > # make obj > # make depend > # make > # make install > > Finally when that failed I tried: > # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm > # make clean > # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil > # make clean > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail > # make clean > # cd /usr/src/lib/libsm > # make obj > # make depend > # make > # cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil > # make obj > # make depend > # make > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail > # make obj > # make depend > # make > # make install > > All return the same problem at the make on /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail... > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. > -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS > -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/version.c > make: don't know how to make > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop > > > Can anyone help out? Thanks in advance... > ~REM > > > > tco1# uname -a > FreeBSD tco1.iaminsane.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Mon > May 2 22:32:50 EDT 2005 > rem@tco1.iaminsane.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/TCO1.2005.05.02.001 > i386 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I followed some advice I found on the questions@freebsd.cz email list and after cvsup'ing my src I ran a 'make buildworld' in /usr/src. After the make buildworld finished I cd'd to /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/ and did a make install and it installed just fine. ~REM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 19:04:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB53216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:04:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936F543D58 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:04:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so431793wra for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:04:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nnn2qlzFWQIIo7zk4IgLmLZfM37PPmQmm8XPsl42ns+d3WSCeB7K728np9XHScV5/zgyrCtCmf0KBovD4Vyf/o2PJGkcIav4hHe+eMSwAAnj69PJ3b4yN2HHUIy68+46QPDaS5ehUtPbiDtCRRQB52eUDUu0mUReiwJ9sb65A+g= Received: by 10.54.146.19 with SMTP id t19mr589501wrd; Wed, 04 May 2005 11:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.4 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e10486b050504115724cd020@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:57:38 -0300 From: Alexandre Biancalana To: Mike Woods In-Reply-To: <42788A0E.70503@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <8e10486b05050310315c2eafcc@mail.gmail.com> <42788A0E.70503@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB GPS Receiver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexandre Biancalana List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:04:49 -0000 Thank you Mike !! Now it's working great ! On 5/4/05, Mike Woods wrote: > Alexandre Biancalana wrote: >=20 > >usb in my kernel: > ># USB support > >device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > >device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > >device usb # USB Bus (required) > >device ugen # Generic > >device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" > >device ulpt # Printer > >device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus an= d da > >device ums # Mouse > >device ucom > > > > > "device uplcom" is what you need for that particular adaptor. >=20 > -------------------------------------- > Mike Woods > Systems Administrator > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 19:11:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7356F16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:11:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blair.epifora.com (blair.epifora.com [207.139.168.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DB943D46 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:11:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drvince@anonymnet.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.epifora.com [127.0.0.1]) by blair.epifora.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38694165A91 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.anonymnet.net ([205.205.52.19]) by localhost (blair.epifora.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28159-04 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.anonymnet.net (mail.anonymnet.net [205.205.52.19]) by mail.anonymnet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8174165A92 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:06:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "DrVince" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:06:45 -0500 Message-Id: <20050504180323.M37650@anonymnet.net> In-Reply-To: <42790613.2070809@raad.tartu.ee> References: <995be75e05050409591da23458@mail.gmail.com> <42790613.2070809@raad.tartu.ee> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040131 X-OriginatingIP: 205.205.52.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Netgraph and firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:11:18 -0000 Hi, Is there a stateful packet filtering/firewall/address translation node type for netgraph or the project of one? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 19:45:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0384516A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:45:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CFD43D5E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:45:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 836925152F; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:44:37 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20050504194437.GB92026@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> <20050504041730.GA45260@xor.obsecurity.org> <4279128B.9080106@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4279128B.9080106@chuckr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Vitaly Bogdanov cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Building kernel without some modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:45:31 -0000 --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 06:20:59PM +0000, Chuck Robey wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:03:49AM +0500, Vitaly Bogdanov wrote: > > > >>Hi. > >>Is it possible to build kernel without compiling unnecessary modules? > >>My system - freebsd5.3. > > > > > >See make.conf(5) >=20 > That wasn't very nice. It's not that it's wrong, but the fella sounded= =20 > to me like he was asking if a target existed, and not everyone is=20 > familiar with our make. Responding like you did had the sole function=20 > of trying to shut off any other responses, and was just not helpful at=20 > all to the querent. That's kind of silly. The answer to his question is documented right there in that manpage, so why should I type it out for him? Kris --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeSYlWry0BWjoQKURAtPLAKD2cUTm4aZg20dGC+9Sw4oXWB1EPgCdGp7m IWIkGdEvYaneSueHEUkrnRo= =wWrg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 19:50:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7951816A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:50:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6118E43D75 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rylwin@houston.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (cpe-67-10-38-25.houston.res.rr.com [67.10.38.25])j44JnPe1025940 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:49:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:49:20 -0500 From: Ryan Winograd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:50:10 -0000 Hi all, I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? Thanks, Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 20:22:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B9B16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:22:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0250D43D5E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:22:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DTQNs-00080c-21 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:22:16 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:22:25 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcad2340145340f2bff05024bbb731e7d8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:22:39 -0000 My AMD K6-2 computer is in the shop getting upgraded to AMD64. If FreeBSD 5.4 is released next week, the timing couldn't be better. I was thinking about putting FreeBSD and swap on the ATA100 IDE hard drive and installing a SATA hard drive for home and database data. Is there any reason I shouldn't mix hard drive types? (I've never messed with SATA before.) Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 20:28:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C4316A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:28:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB6543D31 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:28:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E28117BA; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42792FC9.3070203@chuckr.org> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:25:45 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew L. Gould" References: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:28:18 -0000 Andrew L. Gould wrote: > My AMD K6-2 computer is in the shop getting upgraded to AMD64. If > FreeBSD 5.4 is released next week, the timing couldn't be better. > > I was thinking about putting FreeBSD and swap on the ATA100 IDE hard > drive and installing a SATA hard drive for home and database data. Is > there any reason I shouldn't mix hard drive types? (I've never messed > with SATA before.) YMMV, but for myself, I notice that SATA is notably less reliable than straight SCSI drives are. Less than Ide also. I don't know why. > > Thanks, > > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 20:52:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433FB16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:52:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CD3A43D2F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:52:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 33319 invoked from network); 4 May 2005 20:51:44 -0000 Received: from batv-01-053.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.54) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 4 May 2005 20:51:44 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050504154906.4311e370@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 15:51:05 -0500 To: Ryan Winograd From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:52:28 -0000 At 14:49 5/4/2005, Ryan Winograd, wrote: >Hi all, >I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up=20 >is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i=20 >do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? http://www.Google.com/search?q=3Dinstall+ntp+on+FreeBSD Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:04:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3529B16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:04:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A5943D78 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:04:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) id j44L3LRm017731; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j44L3JBo023456; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:03:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <34d0f02f0868350c3c07570e3a73ceef@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:03:19 -0400 To: Ryan Winograd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:04:39 -0000 On May 4, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Winograd wrote: > I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set > up is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What > can i do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be > helpful? Try changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl; you can look at the available choices via: sysctl kern.timecounter.choice -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:06:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361A816A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:06:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276B743D6E for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:05:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james.cook@utoronto.ca) Received: from angel.falsifian.afraid.org ([67.70.139.43]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.netSMTP <20050504210519.SVMH27508.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@angel.falsifian.afraid.org>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:05:19 -0400 Received: by angel.falsifian.afraid.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 4 May 2005 17:05:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:05:19 -0400 From: James Alexander Cook To: "W. D." Message-ID: <20050504210519.GA51317@angel.falsifian.afraid.org> References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050504154906.4311e370@209.152.117.178> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050504154906.4311e370@209.152.117.178> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ryan Winograd Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:06:00 -0000 On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:51:05PM -0500, W. D. wrote: > At 14:49 5/4/2005, Ryan Winograd, wrote: > >Hi all, > >I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up > >is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i > >do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? > > http://www.Google.com/search?q=install+ntp+on+FreeBSD I might be wrong here, but doesn't NTP only make occasional adjustments to the system clock? If your clock runs twice as fast as normal, it would jump to the correct time every time ntpd corrected it, but in between automatic adjustments, the time would become wildly innacurate. Also, wouldn't a problem like this make your system try to play movies at twice the frame rate, and things like that? NTP is worth a try, but I doubt if it will fix things like that. A google search for "fast clock" seemed to turn up a few results about this problem on mailing lists; I haven't looked into them further. - James Cook james.cook@utoronto.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:21:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE2E16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:21:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4308343D31 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 39607 invoked from network); 4 May 2005 21:21:05 -0000 Received: from batv-01-053.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.54) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 4 May 2005 21:21:05 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050504161925.425f3100@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 16:20:21 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <20050504210729.GA9758@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050504154906.4311e370@209.152.117.178> <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050504154906.4311e370@209.152.117.178> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: Ryan Winograd Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:21:57 -0000 At 16:07 5/4/2005, Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:51:05PM -0500, W. D. wrote: >> At 14:49 5/4/2005, Ryan Winograd, wrote: >> >Hi all, >> >I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up= =20 >> >is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i= =20 >> >do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? >>=20 >> http://www.Google.com/search?q=3Dinstall+ntp+on+FreeBSD > >Unfortunately ntp will not always help in these situations, because >the time is changing too quickly/slowly to keep up with. The OP >should check whether changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl to >one of the other values listed in kern.timecounter.choice will fix the >problem (they are ranked in order of quality). Also look for a BIOS >update for your system - that may fix it. > >Kris Also: sometimes the clock speeds up when the battery is dying. Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:24:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EAA16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E3143D54 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so816368nzf for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jCqAmq0RqUZSAfbE7h5Gor65MxbLmMOMudFzdfj4y/GNrrBsDIZgnw6ugm0R8PTzfLdA9962iqFVOji+Ych8/SoDSoN7Mzq7frV2ADU5mbKtRMSXPWgiAhwAiyz4xrExk3/SFI74MMImQKVLknQpOIj0vzU+CDuYKkTX8PGsMJ4= Received: by 10.36.9.18 with SMTP id 18mr219802nzi; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.19 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e46c99e0505041423102402a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:23:01 -0400 From: Tomas Quintero To: Ryan Winograd In-Reply-To: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:24:08 -0000 On 5/4/05, Ryan Winograd wrote: > Hi all, > I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up > is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i > do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? >=20 > Thanks, > Ryan Have you considered running an ntp service on the box? I run OpenNTPd on a few of my systems and it seems to work quite well. --=20 -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:28:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363CA16A502 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:28:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0440643D41 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FCF34DA12; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D6F34D435; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42793E3E.3080205@cloudview.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:27:26 -0700 From: John Pettitt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomas Quintero References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> <9e46c99e0505041423102402a5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e0505041423102402a5@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: by skipjack cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ryan Winograd Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:28:01 -0000 Tomas Quintero wrote: >On 5/4/05, Ryan Winograd wrote: > > >>Hi all, >>I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up >>is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i >>do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? >> >>Thanks, >>Ryan >> >> > >Have you considered running an ntp service on the box? I run OpenNTPd >on a few of my systems and it seems to work quite well. > > > ntp isn't going to fix a 2x clock problem which is probably hardware related. The OP didn't say what hardware or version of FreeBSD so it's kinda hard to figure out the actual problem. john From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:31:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC2C16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:31:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFAC43D60 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2EDD513B2; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:07:29 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "W. D." Message-ID: <20050504210729.GA9758@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050504154906.4311e370@209.152.117.178> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050504154906.4311e370@209.152.117.178> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ryan Winograd Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:31:03 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:51:05PM -0500, W. D. wrote: > At 14:49 5/4/2005, Ryan Winograd, wrote: > >Hi all, > >I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up= =20 > >is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i= =20 > >do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? >=20 > http://www.Google.com/search?q=3Dinstall+ntp+on+FreeBSD Unfortunately ntp will not always help in these situations, because the time is changing too quickly/slowly to keep up with. The OP should check whether changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl to one of the other values listed in kern.timecounter.choice will fix the problem (they are ranked in order of quality). Also look for a BIOS update for your system - that may fix it. Kris --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeTmQWry0BWjoQKURApLyAKCovKhXjb3VvaFIZUNXcmGypC7AFQCgxTlg RNAfcTmF6czs4yl1nmywPDg= =vMSO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:34:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3932716A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:34:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50408.mail.yahoo.com (web50408.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC26C43D78 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:34:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dsobiera@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 45415 invoked by uid 60001); 4 May 2005 21:33:31 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=2kKXUuruyBvzQe1mnG3yobNZhzfdv3q3t2LX+yMtc2lhCLMnh4NQ6ZC/aa/9fWbDKrv9owJSD0SVjBO8nGFguVn6hjToqNlY0EPvZTclIJKzDSHNebnbsWTxdT72EHBoFNP98uoetm16LI1z75zVtwfCINR4tng+NdYsiY55UMg= ; Message-ID: <20050504213330.45410.qmail@web50408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [149.169.99.83] by web50408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:33:30 PDT Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:33:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Damian Sobieralski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Kerberos 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:34:18 -0000 I have a fairly weird question for the group. I recently set up a FreeBSD 5.3 box to use pam_krb5 for sshd authentication. It worked great. I created a local workstation user via adduser and when it came time for the password based question, I selected no. So when I logged in, I typed "klist" and got some verbage back about my ticket in /tmp. I rebuilt the box and although I can log into the box, when I type klist now I get: klist: No ticket file: /tmp/krb5cc_0 Or some variation of the ticket file name. It authenticates me okay via kerneros or I couldn't get logged in, but any idea why this might happen? BTW- I read online that storing tickets like this (in /tmp) is potentially a security risk for a server so the thought was to change it to home directory tickets like the website recommends. But I did the same procedures on the install and I cannot even get to the point (step 1) where the ticket can be found in /tmp. If it didn't let me log in I'd say it just isn't working, but if I try to ssh in with any other password besides the correct one it reject me (like it should). The right password lets me in so it must be working....right? Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:44:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD9216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:44:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8F943D31 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DTRPI-0004mQ-SI; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:27:49 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Chuck Robey Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:27:58 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> <42792FC9.3070203@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <42792FC9.3070203@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505041627.58250.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc7a87632189fb2f794224c9ce9e67c0df350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:44:58 -0000 On Wednesday 04 May 2005 03:25 pm, Chuck Robey wrote: > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > My AMD K6-2 computer is in the shop getting upgraded to AMD64. If > > FreeBSD 5.4 is released next week, the timing couldn't be better. > > > > I was thinking about putting FreeBSD and swap on the ATA100 IDE > > hard drive and installing a SATA hard drive for home and database > > data. Is there any reason I shouldn't mix hard drive types? (I've > > never messed with SATA before.) > > YMMV, but for myself, I notice that SATA is notably less reliable > than straight SCSI drives are. Less than Ide also. I don't know > why. > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrew Thanks for the warning. I just did a google search on "sata reliability" with lots of interesting results. The expected lifespan (MTBF) of a sata is lower than the scsi; but I haven't found any comparisons to ide yet. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8442316A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:55:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12A543D58 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:55:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rylwin@houston.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (cpe-67-10-38-25.houston.res.rr.com [67.10.38.25])j44LsUgJ002432; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:54:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4279448F.4010103@houston.rr.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 16:54:23 -0500 From: Ryan Winograd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Swiger References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> <34d0f02f0868350c3c07570e3a73ceef@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <34d0f02f0868350c3c07570e3a73ceef@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:55:12 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > On May 4, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Winograd wrote: > >> I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set >> up is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What >> can i do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be >> helpful? > > > Try changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl; you can look at the > available choices via: > > sysctl kern.timecounter.choice > Thanks for all the advice everyone. The solution was changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl to i8254 (was ACPI-safe). I was using NTP, but when the clock is at 2x even having cron run ntp every minute is too innacurate. Thx again! Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 22:08:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683AF16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:08:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A1B43D6A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:08:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DTS0a-000AoW-Qs; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:07:35 -0600 In-Reply-To: <200505041627.58250.algould@datawok.com> References: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> <42792FC9.3070203@chuckr.org> <200505041627.58250.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Message-Id: From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:06:19 -0600 To: Andrew L.Gould X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: Chuck Robey cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:08:07 -0000 On May 4, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Wednesday 04 May 2005 03:25 pm, Chuck Robey wrote: > >> Andrew L. Gould wrote: >> >>> My AMD K6-2 computer is in the shop getting upgraded to AMD64. If >>> FreeBSD 5.4 is released next week, the timing couldn't be better. >>> >>> I was thinking about putting FreeBSD and swap on the ATA100 IDE >>> hard drive and installing a SATA hard drive for home and database >>> data. Is there any reason I shouldn't mix hard drive types? (I've >>> never messed with SATA before.) >>> >> >> YMMV, but for myself, I notice that SATA is notably less reliable >> than straight SCSI drives are. Less than Ide also. I don't know >> why. >> >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Andrew >>> > > Thanks for the warning. I just did a google search on "sata > reliability" with lots of interesting results. The expected lifespan > (MTBF) of a sata is lower than the scsi; but I haven't found any > comparisons to ide yet. > they should be the same as IDE as almost all the SATA drives use the same mechanisms as their comparable IDE brethren. SATA is just the interface. SCSI drives are different in that the market for the SCSI interface also demands a different mechanism. They could, if they wanted to (and used to) add SCSI interfaces to the same mechanisms as the IDE mechanisms and you'd have a lower SCSI MTBF Chad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 22:25:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA6316A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:25:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta3.adelphia.net (mta3.adelphia.net [68.168.78.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED6E43D60 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:25:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050504221930.YQEA4191.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:19:30 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Charles Swiger" , "Ryan Winograd" Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:19:24 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <34d0f02f0868350c3c07570e3a73ceef@mac.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:25:10 -0000 On May 4, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Winograd wrote: > I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set > up is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What > can i do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be > helpful? Try changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl; you can look at the available choices via: sysctl kern.timecounter.choice -- -Chuck ******************************************************************** ***** sysctl kern.timecounter.choice does not work on my 4.10 system sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware and sysctl kern.timecounter do work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 22:25:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9473A16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:25:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F340543D77 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:25:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 11700 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 2005 22:25:00 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp6.knology.net with SMTP; 4 May 2005 22:25:00 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id E09756A1F; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:24:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:24:56 -0500 From: David Kelly To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050504222456.GA74932@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:25:54 -0000 On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:22:25PM -0500, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > I was thinking about putting FreeBSD and swap on the ATA100 IDE hard > drive and installing a SATA hard drive for home and database data. Is > there any reason I shouldn't mix hard drive types? (I've never messed > with SATA before.) I have one PATA with FreeBSD installed, and two SATA striped with gvinum. Swap spread across all 3. No particular problems. The SATA drives are fairly recent models in 160G, the PATA is prior generation in 120G, all Hitachi. The SATA drives seem to handle seeks from multiple processes better than the PATA, better even than might expect from striping. At about 4500 hours of runtime one SATA drive developed a bad block which the drive firmware was not able to automagically substitute. gvinum shut down. I see no reason why a SATA drive should be less reliable than a PATA drive. Also remember back when one could purchase the same drive hardware in either PATA or SCSI, so find it hard to accept the interface makes much difference in reliability. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 22:33:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD46916A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:33:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A490F43D1F for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:33:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) id j44MSlie008320; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j44MSism008031; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:28:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:28:43 -0400 To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:33:45 -0000 On May 4, 2005, at 6:19 PM, fbsd_user wrote: > sysctl kern.timecounter.choice does not work on my 4.10 system > > sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware and sysctl kern.timecounter do > work. True, this interface has changed slightly, since 4.x as 5.x has better APCI support. Running a "sysctl -a kern.timecounter" ought to be a useful starting point for any recent version of FreeBSD. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 22:47:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7925516A4CF for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:47:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153A443D7D for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:47:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050504224635.GIT8952.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:46:35 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Charles Swiger" Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:46:34 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:47:55 -0000 On May 4, 2005, at 6:19 PM, fbsd_user wrote: > sysctl kern.timecounter.choice does not work on my 4.10 system > > sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware and sysctl kern.timecounter do > work. True, this interface has changed slightly, since 4.x as 5.x has better APCI support. Running a "sysctl -a kern.timecounter" ought to be a useful starting point for any recent version of FreeBSD. ******************************************************************** *** Your response is not very clear. Are you saying that kern.timecounter.choice is not in 4.10 How can I find out what choices are? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 22:57:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CDD16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:57:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C765043D6A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:57:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) id j44MrA88009360; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j44Mr7oL028687; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:53:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0d51c586783505f1d7210cad7f9bbf0e@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:53:06 -0400 To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:57:27 -0000 On May 4, 2005, at 6:46 PM, fbsd_user wrote: >> Running a "sysctl -a kern.timecounter" ought to be a >> useful starting point for any recent version of FreeBSD. > > Your response is not very clear. > Are you saying that kern.timecounter.choice is not in 4.10 > > How can I find out what choices are? You can find out what the choices are by running the command I gave. :-) 1-ns1# sysctl -a kern.timecounter kern.timecounter.method: 0 kern.timecounter.hardware: i8254 2-ns1# uname -a FreeBSD ns1.pkix.net 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #3: Tue Apr 5 00:29:47 EDT 2005 root@ns1.pkix.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NORMAL i386 If there are more than one available, one can change kern.timecounter.method to the index of the timecounter method name that you want. In practice, most people simply change 0 to 1 and if that works, stop there. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 23:13:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF7516A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:13:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C9D43D49 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:13:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so338857wra for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:11:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=A+qzJVYiNA8m5tCzWxJe7fatY11L+TC8CvCzqzyFdYs6FVA9NcVjgmH8ioJGpHvkspJwsysAEoBgQ+QeOWQX61Bk+8Du+yvVtUzYelbz64vmVOgt6opUL6CrRmOxBTSMbMlcuZrNndHauVFhMaRtAYLebEDG0YqE0GlA11zoblc= Received: by 10.54.33.67 with SMTP id g67mr601239wrg; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.6 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63c3899e0505041611795987e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 00:11:39 +0100 From: Chris Hodgins To: Karel Miklav In-Reply-To: <42789E86.3020803@inetis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <63c3899e0505030601163f1af7@mail.gmail.com> <42789E86.3020803@inetis.com> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Installing DCOM98 with Wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 23:13:09 -0000 On 5/4/05, Karel Miklav wrote: > Chris Hodgins wrote: > > I have the latest Wine and Winetools installed and I am now trying to > > install DCOM98 with the purpose of installing internet explorer 6 for > > my web development needs. >=20 > Have you considered using QEMU? I have it installed on an old 300MHz > notebook. It runs Win98 perfectly and applications like IE are usable on > this hardware. >=20 Unfortunetly I gave up all of my windows software for FreeBSD a couple of years ago now. All I have is the CD that came with my laptop to ghost windows back onto my machine. I have emailed the port maintainer regarding this and wine is indeed broken on FreeBSD and he does not have the knowledge to repair it.=20 The wine faq actually says that none of their team use FreeBSD so there is no support from them for it either. I would like to see this working again if possible. Is there even anyone out there who has this working already who could send me a tar of their wine directory with ie6 installed? Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 23:50:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC2116A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:50:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from f10.mail.ru (f10.mail.ru [194.67.57.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253A243D7C for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:50:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bec78@mail.ru) Received: from mail by f10.mail.ru with local id 1DTTbW-00061A-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 03:48:34 +0400 Received: from [212.46.238.165] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2005 03:48:34 +0400 From: calin turcan To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [212.46.238.165] Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 03:48:34 +0400 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----v2ehAIDD-7FP8veqJXsPEXabA:1115250514" Message-Id: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: download X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: calin turcan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 23:50:41 -0000 ------v2ehAIDD-7FP8veqJXsPEXabA:1115250514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i download from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.3/ these file: 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso when i tried to instal??????? see on the attachet screen shot. Thanks!! ------v2ehAIDD-7FP8veqJXsPEXabA:1115250514-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 23:54:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F8416A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:54:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F03B43D58 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:54:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tummytech@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so191869rnf for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:53:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AtqFeRcFDO9KXhVLykR27qZTgQAHB7t7UxcwNxBUOCHJ+IyeDqUAWIZGUy7elO4Pap2pSVwJsXY/Kxu0VqNbv65+KCm425/RDJtLcrk+XxtK/RRgBwTkK5/XTbcNt608OFw7nY4d0OOYbqgtqC6TQehh/JhPQZw5A8RT7uYTNwI= Received: by 10.38.209.54 with SMTP id h54mr1250143rng; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.37 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <860807bf0505041646120d4f18@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:46:49 -0700 From: Benson Wong To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" In-Reply-To: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: installing big qmail server ... where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benson Wong List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 23:54:44 -0000 I run a qmail-ldap installation for about 10,000 users. Each has 100MB of quota. I use 2 LDAP servers, 2 qmail servers and have all the Maildirs stored on a 5.6TB Xserve RAID. There are a couple of issues you will run into here.=20 1. Mass storage. FreeBSD doesn't support file systems > 2TB, at least not that I found decent documentation and support for. 2. Backing up 50,000 Maildirs, where each email is a separate file requires something custom. I use Bacula, a network backup tool, and I instruct it to do a tar-gzip of each Maildir before backup. This adds a bit of overhead, and almost doubles space usage, but it sure beats backing up millions of little 4K - 80K files! 3. There is a MAJOR bug with maildirsize, the quota file. These quota files go out of sync a lot. From a year of statistics about 0.1% of users will likely have out of sync maildirsize files everyday. Who it happens to seems to be random. I wrote a custom script that runs every 15 minutes to clean up the out of sync maildirsize files. Other than those issues my qmail-ldap installation runs super stable. On the two mail servers I have serving up IMAP and POP3, their load hovers around 0.1 to 0.3 barely anything at all. On my NFS server the load is about 0.3... it's barely working too. Hope that was helpful.=20 Ben.=20 On 5/4/05, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I have to plan and setup a mail solution for about 50.000 users, here are > some key features requested by our customer: >=20 > - self coded webfrontend w/ webmail and administration (filter, alias et= c) > - 100MB quota per user > - autoresponder > - about 50.000 user > - online backup of data > - some more featuers for web frontend >=20 > Since I happily use qmail for some other (but smaller) installations, I > want to try it with qmail here for this project as well. My only problem > is, I have no clue where to start ... beginning from "should I use 2 > redundant and really strong or some more but cheaper servers?" to "which > qmail distributions and patches should I use (ldap, mysql, ...)?" and "ho= w > to store data (mails) and do online backup w/o downtime?". >=20 > I know you can't give me _the_ solution for this issue, but I am thankful > for any hints and internet links on this topic. >=20 > I am sure you guys can help me :) > Greetings and TIA, Matthias >=20 > -- > And thank you most of all for nuclear power, which is yet to cause a > single proven fatality, at least in this country. >=20 > -- Homer Simpson > Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 blog: http://www.mostlygeek.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 23:58:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD6016A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:58:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13F343D5C for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:58:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4239117BA; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42795B04.3050206@chuckr.org> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 23:30:12 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kelly References: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> <20050504222456.GA74932@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20050504222456.GA74932@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 23:58:41 -0000 David Kelly wrote: > On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:22:25PM -0500, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > >>I was thinking about putting FreeBSD and swap on the ATA100 IDE hard >>drive and installing a SATA hard drive for home and database data. Is >>there any reason I shouldn't mix hard drive types? (I've never messed >>with SATA before.) > > > I have one PATA with FreeBSD installed, and two SATA striped with > gvinum. Swap spread across all 3. No particular problems. The SATA > drives are fairly recent models in 160G, the PATA is prior generation in > 120G, all Hitachi. The SATA drives seem to handle seeks from multiple > processes better than the PATA, better even than might expect from > striping. > > At about 4500 hours of runtime one SATA drive developed a bad block > which the drive firmware was not able to automagically substitute. gvinum > shut down. > > I see no reason why a SATA drive should be less reliable than a PATA > drive. Also remember back when one could purchase the same drive > hardware in either PATA or SCSI, so find it hard to accept the interface > makes much difference in reliability. > I don't know why it's true... I can state that I've had 3 of them so far, and had troubles with 2, and google is chock full of reports. Further, the info about them being the same as their IDE brethren isn't true, at least, the access rate specifications are higher for SATA drives, in general, as compared to IDE. Least they were the last time I checked, maybe it's changed inthe last 6 months. OTOH, when I first bought mine, I was comparing in my mind with SCSI, not IDE, maybe they *do* compare equally with IDE, is IDE that bad? Certainly, SATA is less reliable thant he scsi drives. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 00:02:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B41716A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:02:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A5D43D58 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:02:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])j44Ntav6020158; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:55:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19232-06-2; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:55:36 +1000 (EST) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4])j44Nt0N7020114; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:55:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:55:00 +1000 Received: from [10.0.17.42] ([10.0.17.42]) by svmailmel.bytecraft.internal with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 5 May 2005 09:55:04 +1000 From: Murray Taylor Organization: Bytecraft Systems To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Calvin Lane Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:54:59 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <995be75e05050409591da23458@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <995be75e05050409591da23458@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505050954.59824.mtaylor@bytecraft.com.au> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2005 23:55:04.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[B13A8A90:01C55104] Subject: Re: Allowing GRE in IPFILTER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 00:02:17 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2005 02:59, Calvin Lane wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I've recently installed and configured mpd. I've been able to establish VPN > connections with no problem internally on my network. When I attempt to > establish a connection through my firewall, I get a number of error > messages. The problem is that I'm not allowing GRE to get through on my > firewall. Here is currently what I have: > > pass in quick on xl0 proto gre from any to > 192.168.10.253/24 > pass out quick on xl0 proto gre from > 192.168.10.253/24to any > > Please let me know what the correct syntax is for allowing gre traffic > through through an ipfilter firewall running BSD 4.10. Thanks. > > Calvin > > calvin.lane@gmail.com > This works for my win2k laptop to access work through my FreeBSD 4.9 / ipf firewall you need the TCP port 1723 for initial establishment (The variables are from the shell script I use to reset things when my ISP changes my ip number) ----------8<----------------- oif="rl0" # internet side interface myip="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" # internet IP number from ISP DHCP ks="keep state" fks="flags S keep state" ----------8<----------------- # # pptp and gre for Work VPN outbound # pass out quick on $oif proto tcp from any to any port = 1723 $fks pass out quick on $oif proto gre from any to any ----------8<----------------- # # GRE vpn stuff (inbound from work) # pass in quick on $oif proto gre from yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy to any -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer ---------------------- ----------- Bytecraft Systems & Entertainment Phone: 61 3 8710 2555 Email: mtaylor@bytecraft.com.au or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 00:27:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D32D16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:27:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (smtp2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.185.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C2F43D6A for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:27:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Sebastian.Reichelt@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) Received: from hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de (hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.164.154]) by smtp2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 4.43 #1) id 1DTUCH-00005H-V6; Thu, 05 May 2005 02:26:34 +0200 Received: from sebastian by hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTUBz-0000gY-Ek for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 02:26:15 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 02:26:15 +0200 From: Sebastian Reichelt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050505022615.2abcf4c6.SebastianR@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.7 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Sebastian Reichelt Subject: FreeBSD Installation Horror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 00:27:53 -0000 Hello! As a programmer and computer science student, I wanted to try out FreeBSD on my old computer (Pentium 166). Mainly I just want to get to know the differences between FreeBSD and Linux, and see whether it really has a better design (which many people I know claim). However, so far I have not been able to install it on my hard drive. I have already spent several days on this. Please help me, this is becoming really frustrating. I downloaded the three floppy images for 5.3-RELEASE and dd'ed them on the disks. Then I booted the installation and tried to partition my hard drive. To my surprise, the partition table shown by the installation was complete nonsense. I figured it probably had something to do with the fact that my BIOS doesn't support the disk size. I'm using the OnTrack disk manager to fix the problem for Windows. So I booted from the disk, and used the OnTrack feature to boot from a floppy after OnTrack has been loaded. The partition table was exactly the same junk, though. I also tried different geometries (reported by LILO, BIOS, FreeBSD installation, etc.), but this didn't change the view of the partition table either. OK, so I emptied another (smaller) disk and tried to install FreeBSD on it. I have a PPP connection to another PC over a serial cable on COM1, which works fine from Windows. (The other PC is running Linux with a script to emulate a modem.) So I thought I would use the same link for the FreeBSD installation. I selected PPP on COM1, then it ran the PPP program, but this program always crashes the entire computer after a few seconds, even if I don't type anything. Of course, then I got someone to burn me a CD. I booted from the CD, but then the kernel said it couldn't figure out which drive it was booting from. Apparently it had not detected the CDROM at all for some reason. So I had to boot from floppy over and over again. (It would be nice to be able to put the installation program on a small hard disk partition.) Then I selected CD as the installation medium. Somehow the CDROM has some problems reading the CD; this is not FreeBSD's fault, of course. However, when it gets to the bad locations, usually it reports a page fault and reboots! Now this is getting really annoying... By now, I have tried to get the CD burnt three times, but every single one of them seems to be broken at some place. With the latest one, at least the installation doesn't page fault any more. But it still aborts if it can't read some file. If it didn't do that, I would probably be finished by now. As a last resort, I tried to copy the installation files from the CD to a disk. I can't use the OnTrack-formatted disk because FreeBSD can't read it. So I have to use the disk I want to install to. After all, it could read the files, and the installation went fine. When I rebooted, the boot manager showed up, and asked me to press F1 for DOS (the source partition), F2 for FreeBSD, and F5 for the other disk. When I pressed F2, it just beeped, but didn't do anything. I thought that maybe I could only install FreeBSD on the first partition, then. (Although that really surprises me.) So I created an extended partition, copied the installation files there, and deleted the primary partition. Oh no, FreeBSD can't read extended partitions! How nice: It expects the installation files to be on a primary partition, but you can only install it on the first partition? I think that in the Linux fdisk, I can create up to 4 primary partitions, but the Windows version only supports one. This is the story so far. Please help me find a happy end. Thank you very much. -- Sebastian Reichelt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 00:29:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7005316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:29:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E39B43D2D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:29:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so103686nzo for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:27:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jOjb38fCZ2YdwHkLztMZH8yf7Kh5LeAZXQItry/LEOByCcWEacqypku77KtZedzZEaNOtmC1QK3IG4o8MsoFawTwEFphu2vyZnDT1tYorBA7C6eLdJeFlXJTljCfxjprluqd1d2tX3tnHIA/aRdnoGzxE9tU9smeMN2+rTyABfw= Received: by 10.36.38.8 with SMTP id l8mr197362nzl; Wed, 04 May 2005 15:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.10 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19861fba05050415407f292f35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 00:40:55 +0200 From: J65nko BSD To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" In-Reply-To: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: installing big qmail server ... where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: J65nko BSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 00:29:01 -0000 See http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ldap/ Maybe you could ask on the qmail-ldap mailing list ;) =3Dadriaan=3D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 00:52:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDEC16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:52:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD36743D66 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:52:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (mwinf1108 [172.22.142.38]) by mwinf1110.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1EE1A1C02FC8 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:02:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DFCCB1C000A3 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:02:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E93F71C0009B for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:02:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050504210210955.E93F71C0009B@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:02:08 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <887107064.20050504230208@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 00:52:12 -0000 Ryan Winograd writes: > Hi all, > I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up > is running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i > do to solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? If the machine has network access to an NTP server, you can install and run the Network Time Protocol (NTP) daemon to discipline and synchronize the clock on the machine. It works very well, holding the clock accurate to with a tiny fraction of a second (milliseconds, in good conditions). Twice real time does sound odd, though. Clocks are often off by many seconds a day, but running at twice normal speed sounds like something may be wrong. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 00:53:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD62C16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:53:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF1C43D60 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:53:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050505005108.KVMJ13270.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:51:08 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Sebastian Reichelt" , Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:51:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050505022615.2abcf4c6.SebastianR@gmx.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: FreeBSD Installation Horror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 00:53:13 -0000 Your pc is so old that the bios do not support LBA in native mode. You have to upgrade your bios chip on the motherboard. check out http://www.unicore.com/ for replacement chip. OnTrack is designed for ms/windows only. In a nut shell 5.3 does support your very old motherboard. You may have better luck with 4.11 If the cdrom you burned for 5.3 install has only single file then you created it incorrectly. Extended partitions are a windows thing only. You are mixing windows things with old bios and FreeBSD and it will never work. check out this install guide it may help you with creating install cdrom. http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichelt Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:26 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Installation Horror Hello! As a programmer and computer science student, I wanted to try out FreeBSD on my old computer (Pentium 166). Mainly I just want to get to know the differences between FreeBSD and Linux, and see whether it really has a better design (which many people I know claim). However, so far I have not been able to install it on my hard drive. I have already spent several days on this. Please help me, this is becoming really frustrating. I downloaded the three floppy images for 5.3-RELEASE and dd'ed them on the disks. Then I booted the installation and tried to partition my hard drive. To my surprise, the partition table shown by the installation was complete nonsense. I figured it probably had something to do with the fact that my BIOS doesn't support the disk size. I'm using the OnTrack disk manager to fix the problem for Windows. So I booted from the disk, and used the OnTrack feature to boot from a floppy after OnTrack has been loaded. The partition table was exactly the same junk, though. I also tried different geometries (reported by LILO, BIOS, FreeBSD installation, etc.), but this didn't change the view of the partition table either. OK, so I emptied another (smaller) disk and tried to install FreeBSD on it. I have a PPP connection to another PC over a serial cable on COM1, which works fine from Windows. (The other PC is running Linux with a script to emulate a modem.) So I thought I would use the same link for the FreeBSD installation. I selected PPP on COM1, then it ran the PPP program, but this program always crashes the entire computer after a few seconds, even if I don't type anything. Of course, then I got someone to burn me a CD. I booted from the CD, but then the kernel said it couldn't figure out which drive it was booting from. Apparently it had not detected the CDROM at all for some reason. So I had to boot from floppy over and over again. (It would be nice to be able to put the installation program on a small hard disk partition.) Then I selected CD as the installation medium. Somehow the CDROM has some problems reading the CD; this is not FreeBSD's fault, of course. However, when it gets to the bad locations, usually it reports a page fault and reboots! Now this is getting really annoying... By now, I have tried to get the CD burnt three times, but every single one of them seems to be broken at some place. With the latest one, at least the installation doesn't page fault any more. But it still aborts if it can't read some file. If it didn't do that, I would probably be finished by now. As a last resort, I tried to copy the installation files from the CD to a disk. I can't use the OnTrack-formatted disk because FreeBSD can't read it. So I have to use the disk I want to install to. After all, it could read the files, and the installation went fine. When I rebooted, the boot manager showed up, and asked me to press F1 for DOS (the source partition), F2 for FreeBSD, and F5 for the other disk. When I pressed F2, it just beeped, but didn't do anything. I thought that maybe I could only install FreeBSD on the first partition, then. (Although that really surprises me.) So I created an extended partition, copied the installation files there, and deleted the primary partition. Oh no, FreeBSD can't read extended partitions! How nice: It expects the installation files to be on a primary partition, but you can only install it on the first partition? I think that in the Linux fdisk, I can create up to 4 primary partitions, but the Windows version only supports one. This is the story so far. Please help me find a happy end. Thank you very much. -- Sebastian Reichelt _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 01:16:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1425816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 01:16:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54003.mail.yahoo.com (web54003.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CA8743D6E for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 01:16:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26514 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2005 01:15:54 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=2GYR0acrf5Pj0+8YwTSet8o+50DXo2dx0IuyzaNuX6VqP4o3tV/PbZkfwDdr/5gDvcr5mQD/AHIExbBbWPbEedpQs5nmJfAZtakICmvjOc2Ep2A0OvtSwJwrjwM0kOng8ZlIw/RtqXzPPFpMtNNHWQr7VuyZBmPSv9vHz7TYizg= ; Message-ID: <20050505011554.26512.qmail@web54003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 18:15:53 PDT Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:15:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob To: SebastianR@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation Horror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 01:16:46 -0000 Sebastian Reichelt wrote: > > As a programmer and computer science student, I > wanted to try out FreeBSD on my old computer > (Pentium 166). Mainly I just want to get to know > the differences between FreeBSD and Linux, and see > whether it really has a better design (which many > people I know claim). Sebastian, About 5 years ago, I made the transition form Linux to FreeBSD. That also gave me some headaches, and the first few times nothing seemed to work. Slowly I learnt that FreeBSD (Installation & OS) does things quite different. Ever since I got the hang of how these things worked, I never used anything else than FreeBSD. Anyway, I hope this helps you a bit deal with your current frustration. I also run FreeBSD 5.3 on an old Pentium-1: Pentium/P54C (149.69-MHz 586-class CPU) real memory = 33554432 (32 MB) Note: you need at least 24 MB during installation. On a running system, you can do with less. Boot from the floppies. Then: 1) FDISK Partition editor I recommend to ignore any geometry issues here. Delete all existing slices, and say 'A', to use the entire disk. If I remember well, the geometry issues are irrelevant when you dedicate the entire disk to FreeBSD. 2) Install Boot Manager I always choose "BootMgr" here. 3) FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Initially you should have no entries here (if you have, remove them); then choose 'A' autodefaults. These autodefaults will be fine for a first time installation rehearsal :). Leave the finetuning for subsequent installations, when you are more familiar with it. 4) Choose Distributions Choose here "The smallest configuration possible". This will give you a running FreeBSD system in a minimal amount of installation time. 5) Media Since you have CDs, choose here "Install from a FreeBSD CD/DVD". --------- Does this help you overcome the issues you encountered earlier? Rob. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 04:48:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7FB16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 04:48:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gretel.pobox.com (gretel.pobox.com [208.58.1.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FF243D6D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 04:48:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by gretel.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B935375D719 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C532FA60; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net (pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.215.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FD78E; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:18:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.crystalsphere.multiverse To: Ryan Winograd In-Reply-To: <4279448F.4010103@houston.rr.com> Message-ID: <20050504151359.U72230@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> <34d0f02f0868350c3c07570e3a73ceef@mac.com> <4279448F.4010103@houston.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 04:48:08 -0000 On Wed, 4 May 2005, Ryan Winograd wrote: > Charles Swiger wrote: > >> On May 4, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Winograd wrote: >> >>> I recently noticed that the system clock on a machine i recently set up is >>> running very quickly, about 2x realtime by my measuring. What can i do to >>> solve/investigate this problem? What information would be helpful? >> >> >> Try changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl; you can look at the >> available choices via: >> >> sysctl kern.timecounter.choice >> > > Thanks for all the advice everyone. The solution was changing the > kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl to i8254 (was ACPI-safe). I was using NTP, > but when the clock is at 2x even having cron run ntp every minute is too > innacurate. > > Thx again! > Ryan I wish I'd known about that sysctl when I had this problem on my last system! I tried ntp, but having ntp constantly resetting the clock just added new problems. Thanks for sharing the outcome with us. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 05:56:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7571D16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:56:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFCF43D77 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:56:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dracodan@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so229269rnf for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:56:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=FTkstexiZrQdtQsY0CtuD3Mrs5jxxAJeGI+PxZx/BJAf6mTr9SMPxl8fB0tRfK8gWvvcAsDbkTQ7vR92t+VJm5e6lAG6cNMyG/aqLJo6Kt+K0VxQkfhdvEAxJxAHJCZmw0wtT98y8mrXjEXMI13ucCU1oah0SJ18k/K3Qeb87Hw= Received: by 10.38.126.67 with SMTP id y67mr141128rnc; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DracoNetLT ([69.178.26.235]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29sm133495rng.2005.05.04.22.56.13; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:56:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Lane" To: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:54:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVRNu8bC3hcXAq8TEek1zcI0S3Wyg== Message-ID: <4279b57e.79c1ce6c.333b.2aee@mx.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: driver support for 3C996B-t NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 05:56:15 -0000 I am attempting to use the 3c996b-t nic which uses the broadcom BCM5701TKHB chip (yes, I hate broadcom too). I had been trying to get this card working using the BGE(0) driver for a few ddays now, with extremely limited success. Apparently the 3c996-t card works just fine, but the driver for it is too different to work with the 3c996b-t. I found this post in the archives, but it doesn't seem anyone ever did anything to find a solution. Thanks Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 08:12:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A552316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:12:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from istanbul.enderunix.org (freefall.marmara.edu.tr [193.140.143.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A835B43D97 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:12:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ofsen@enderunix.org) Received: (qmail 96647 invoked by uid 89); 5 May 2005 08:12:42 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff 0.8-p3 against viruses and spams (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Message-ID: <20050505081242.96644.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> From: Omer Faruk Sen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:12:41 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: developer list in FreeBSD source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 08:12:40 -0000 Hi, There was a file in FreeBSD source tree that shows who is responsible for related driver or program. I couldn't remeber it so I decided to mail it to here. Can someone point me to the right document in /usr/src? Best Regards.. ----------------------- Omer Faruk Sen http://www.EnderUNIX.ORG Software Development Team @ Turkey http://www.Faruk.NET For Public key: http://www.enderunix.org/ofsen/ofsen.asc ******************************************************** First Turkish FreeBSD book is out! Go check it. Duydunuz mu! Turkiye'nin ilk FreeBSD kitabi cikti. http://www.acikakademi.com/freebsd.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 08:20:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B3E16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:20:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD1D43D79 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:20:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 986A11C000B6 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:20:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 76B961C000A5 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:20:52 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050505082052486.76B961C000A5@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:20:51 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1117006021.20050505102051@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050504210519.GA51317@angel.falsifian.afraid.org> References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050504154906.4311e370@209.152.117.178> <20050504210519.GA51317@angel.falsifian.afraid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 08:20:54 -0000 James Alexander Cook writes: > I might be wrong here, but doesn't NTP only make occasional adjustments to the > system clock? It tries to slew the clock as smoothly as possible to bring it into alignment with the correct time. It does not make sudden large changes to the clock. > If your clock runs twice as fast as normal, it would jump to the correct time > every time ntpd corrected it, but in between automatic adjustments, the time > would become wildly innacurate. If your clock is that far off, it would be difficult for NTP (or anything else) to correct it often enough to keep it running smoothly with the correct time. You're talking about an accuracy of 50%, whereas even bad PC real-time clocks usually have an accuracy of better than 99.9%. If NTP sees that it cannot discipline the clock successfully, it will say so and give up, IIRC. The real mystery is why the clock is running so fast. > Also, wouldn't a problem like this make your system try to play movies at > twice the frame rate, and things like that? NTP is worth a try, but I doubt > if it will fix things like that. I don't think the real-time clock comes into play for multimedia work, but I might be wrong. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 08:21:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A37116A4CF for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:21:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD7F43D2D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fierykylin@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2618095nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 01:21:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AXv8wstMfiuqhsB1w3+q+ftEc9Kfn4z5GBSCfaXGDGxW5wHGCJkhDpZxT8iHIDwPyGITkE8/w5IfBWfscVfjarHbTEGar4hpXoLLpvAJuQ4jf4+6zdzn+79KzTp+xpiZ7ylHD9NWFV7nQeCLupzQZ+1ifzalmYgYsag/mQ/dLTY= Received: by 10.36.38.1 with SMTP id l1mr243714nzl; Thu, 05 May 2005 01:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.6 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 01:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87ab37ab05050501213b515d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:21:20 +0800 From: kylin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: How can i get Freebsd via TortoiseCVS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kylin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 08:21:21 -0000 the software i download in sourceinsight ask me to=20 enter in=20 CVSROOT: SERVER PORT User Name and so on... so boring ,i just want to get some files new in freebsd 5.4 rc3:( can some kind hearted help me out? --=20 we who r about to die,salute u! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 08:43:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2BD16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:43:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A058B43D6D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:43:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0A4FF1C000C1 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:43:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E0AF61C000BB for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:43:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050505084330920.E0AF61C000BB@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:43:30 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <352039115.20050505104330@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <34d0f02f0868350c3c07570e3a73ceef@mac.com> References: <42792740.3040501@houston.rr.com> <34d0f02f0868350c3c07570e3a73ceef@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 08:43:33 -0000 Charles Swiger writes: > Try changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl; you can look at the > available choices via: > > sysctl kern.timecounter.choice So what do the choices mean? How are they used? On one machine, I see TSC, ACPI-fast, i8254, and dummy as choices, and ACPI-fast is selected (this is a P4 machine). On the other, older machine (a 2-processor Pentium Pro), I see TSC, i8254, and dummy, and i8254 is selected. I presume that TSC is a real-time clock based on the processor TSC, and I presume also that i8254 is such a clock based on the classic i8254 timer, but what is dummy, and what is ACPI-fast? What are the pros and cons of selecting different choices? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 09:20:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097EE16A4D2 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:20:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9983843D5E for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j459Kdb61022 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 02:20:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 02:20:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <352039115.20050505104330@wanadoo.fr> Subject: RE: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 09:20:12 -0000 Anthony, you really need to look in the code sometime: /usr/src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_timer.c * If all tests of the counter succeed, use the ACPI-fast method. If * at least one failed, default to using the safe routine, which reads * the timer multiple times to get a consistent value before returning. /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/clock.c the init routines for the i8254 clock chip /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/tsc.c { /* * We can not use the TSC if we support APM. Precise timekeeping * on an APM'ed machine is at best a fools pursuit, since * any and all of the time spent in various SMM code can't * be reliably accounted for. Reading the RTC is your only * source of reliable time info. The i8254 looses too of course * but we need to have some kind of time... * We don't know at this point whether APM is going to be used * or not, nor when it might be activated. Play it safe. */ Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:44 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Clock running fast > > > Charles Swiger writes: > > > Try changing the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl; you can > look at the > > available choices via: > > > > sysctl kern.timecounter.choice > > So what do the choices mean? How are they used? > > On one machine, I see TSC, ACPI-fast, i8254, and dummy as choices, and > ACPI-fast is selected (this is a P4 machine). On the other, older > machine (a 2-processor Pentium Pro), I see TSC, i8254, and dummy, and > i8254 is selected. > > I presume that TSC is a real-time clock based on the processor TSC, and > I presume also that i8254 is such a clock based on the classic i8254 > timer, but what is dummy, and what is ACPI-fast? > > What are the pros and cons of selecting different choices? > > -- > Anthony > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 10:05:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A178016A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:05:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6752E43D88 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:05:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 5 May 2005 11:06:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4279EFEC.90009@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:05:32 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050501 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> <20050504222456.GA74932@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <42795B04.3050206@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <42795B04.3050206@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2005 10:06:11.0467 (UTC) FILETIME=[1070EDB0:01C5515A] Subject: Re: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:05:34 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > I don't know why it's true... I can state that I've had 3 of them so > far, and had troubles with 2, and google is chock full of reports. > Further, the info about them being the same as their IDE brethren > isn't true, at least, the access rate specifications are higher for > SATA drives, in general, as compared to IDE. Least they were the last > time I checked, maybe it's changed inthe last 6 months. > > OTOH, when I first bought mine, I was comparing in my mind with SCSI, > not IDE, maybe they *do* compare equally with IDE, is IDE that bad? > Certainly, SATA is less reliable thant he scsi drives. Deskstar T7K250 Highlights Capacity - 250GB and 160GB Rotational Speed - 7200 RPM *** Interface standard - SATA II 3.0Gb/s (Serial) and ATA Ultra 133 (Parallel) ATA-7 streaming feature set Average seek time - 8.5 ms Same drive, different interface. This has been the case as long as I've been checking out specs. If your drives are that bad, try another manufacturer. Are IDE drives more unreliable? They cost significantly less, spin at lower speeds are are and are a mass-market item. Some of the cost difference is interface complexity, the rest, I'm sure, is that SCSIs tend to manufactured to higher tolerances. Ask owners of an IBM Deskstar 75 how reliable an IDE drive is :-) (Then duck). --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 10:07:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF00C16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:07:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280FB43D62 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:07:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-196-020.ec.res.rr.com [65.184.196.20])j4543OY4009569; Thu, 5 May 2005 00:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42799DE3.5030108@ec.rr.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 00:15:31 -0400 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050426) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> <20050504222456.GA74932@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <42795B04.3050206@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <42795B04.3050206@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: David Kelly cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:07:40 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > David Kelly wrote: > >> On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:22:25PM -0500, Andrew L. Gould wrote: >> >>> I was thinking about putting FreeBSD and swap on the ATA100 IDE hard >>> drive and installing a SATA hard drive for home and database data. >>> Is there any reason I shouldn't mix hard drive types? (I've never >>> messed with SATA before.) >> >> >> >> I have one PATA with FreeBSD installed, and two SATA striped with >> gvinum. Swap spread across all 3. No particular problems. The SATA >> drives are fairly recent models in 160G, the PATA is prior generation in >> 120G, all Hitachi. The SATA drives seem to handle seeks from multiple >> processes better than the PATA, better even than might expect from >> striping. >> >> At about 4500 hours of runtime one SATA drive developed a bad block >> which the drive firmware was not able to automagically substitute. >> gvinum >> shut down. >> >> I see no reason why a SATA drive should be less reliable than a PATA >> drive. Also remember back when one could purchase the same drive >> hardware in either PATA or SCSI, so find it hard to accept the interface >> makes much difference in reliability. >> > I don't know why it's true... I can state that I've had 3 of them so > far, and had troubles with 2, and google is chock full of reports. > Further, the info about them being the same as their IDE brethren > isn't true, at least, the access rate specifications are higher for > SATA drives, in general, as compared to IDE. Least they were the last > time I checked, maybe it's changed inthe last 6 months. > > OTOH, when I first bought mine, I was comparing in my mind with SCSI, > not IDE, maybe they *do* compare equally with IDE, is IDE that bad? > Certainly, SATA is less reliable thant he scsi drives. > Don't compare IDE to SCSI. IDE is home/consumer grade. SCSI is commercial/enterprise grade. Just look at the price differences, because you most certainly get what you pay for with SCSI compared to IDE. **Warning, the following contains anecdotal evidence** I built a new rig for my brother with SATA and it has been perfect. I only have IDE in my slightly older machine which runs great 24/7. But this has just been my experience, as always YMMV. One last thing, I would avoid the first generation of most technology because they tend to still have some bugs. So if you buy SATA don't et the discounted drive, look for a newer model and you should be good. Also checkout storagereview.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 11:13:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1E416A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:13:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr (smtp8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC7B43D6B for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:13:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0806.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 14FF01C000B1 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:13:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0806.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E86C11C0009F for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:13:33 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050505111333952.E86C11C0009F@mwinf0806.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:13:33 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <995071073.20050505131333@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <352039115.20050505104330@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:13:35 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > Anthony, you really need to look in the code sometime: It takes a very long time to find relevant sections of code, and unless the author was very conscientious, there are usually few or no explanatory comments, anyway. > /usr/src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_timer.c Thanks. > * If all tests of the counter succeed, use the ACPI-fast method. If > * at least one failed, default to using the safe routine, which reads > * the timer multiple times to get a consistent value before returning. Whatever that means. > /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/clock.c > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/tsc.c Thanks > /* > * We can not use the TSC if we support APM. Precise timekeeping > * on an APM'ed machine is at best a fools pursuit, since > * any and all of the time spent in various SMM code can't > * be reliably accounted for. Reading the RTC is your only > * source of reliable time info. The i8254 looses too of course > * but we need to have some kind of time... > * We don't know at this point whether APM is going to be used > * or not, nor when it might be activated. Play it safe. > */ Hmm. I think APM is turned off on my machine, at least that's what FreeBSD says. The manual for the MB doesn't say anything about SMI use. 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If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.51.2.2 2003/03/25 23:35:15 jhb Exp $ machine i386 cpu I386_CPU ident GENERIC maxusers 0 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols # options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support # options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device # options NFS #Network Filesystem # options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] # options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # To support HyperThreading, HTT is needed in addition to SMP and APIC_IO #options HTT # HyperThreading Technology device isa device eisa device pci device pcm device sbc # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # # If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy, # don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one: #device fdc0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) device isp # Qlogic family device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT/Fusion device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured device adv0 at isa? device adw device bt0 at isa? device aha0 at isa? device aic0 at isa? device ncv # NCR 53C500 device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 NICs device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') device bge # Broadcom BCM570x (``Tigon III'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed0 at isa? disable port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ex device ep device fe0 at isa? disable port 0x300 # Xircom Ethernet device xe # PRISM I IEEE 802.11b wireless NIC. device awi # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those parameters here. device an # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. device ie0 at isa? disable port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device le0 at isa? disable port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 device lnc0 at isa? disable port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 device cs0 at isa? disable port 0x300 device sn0 at isa? disable port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners device urio # Diamond Rio MP3 Player # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet device cue # CATC USB ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet --0-1405650852-1115294022=:25313-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:13:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D1116A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:13:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A2343DA7 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:13:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from salvatti@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so247957nzf for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 05:13:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rVnfcpIpW5pNsu0Wela+e7HPyQJJgTtqGLY3Ji0DlpafrH9ZAMjT16nGijn0O1/8ZzYJ1ynl9bViTWQ0yh1XqSg4s9JpwfGNIYBbwHx+WjqSMjUqxzCBsilyuPYSx9W5K+kb0CIyYE4sQ/7p7INJlT4pY5NggfzChUc6rAB7nMo= Received: by 10.36.80.18 with SMTP id d18mr324421nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 05:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.7 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <627d8c310505050513719aa980@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:13:51 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Salvatti?= To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: compiler is used in FreeBSD's kernel compiling process. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Salvatti?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:13:52 -0000 Hi all,=20 I'd like to know which compiler is used in FreeBSD's kernel compiling=20 process. Thanks. --=20 Jo=E3o Salvatti From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:16:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77ECC16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:16:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369BA43DA9 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:16:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1DTfHX-0008T6-KM; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:16:43 -0600 In-Reply-To: <42799DE3.5030108@ec.rr.com> References: <200505041522.25722.algould@datawok.com> <20050504222456.GA74932@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <42795B04.3050206@chuckr.org> <42799DE3.5030108@ec.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Message-Id: From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 06:16:42 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: Chuck Robey Subject: Re: mixing IDE and SATA hard drives on a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:16:48 -0000 On May 4, 2005, at 10:15 PM, jason henson wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > > >> David Kelly wrote: >> >> >>> On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:22:25PM -0500, Andrew L. Gould wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I was thinking about putting FreeBSD and swap on the ATA100 IDE >>>> hard drive and installing a SATA hard drive for home and >>>> database data. Is there any reason I shouldn't mix hard drive >>>> types? (I've never messed with SATA before.) >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I have one PATA with FreeBSD installed, and two SATA striped with >>> gvinum. Swap spread across all 3. No particular problems. The SATA >>> drives are fairly recent models in 160G, the PATA is prior >>> generation in >>> 120G, all Hitachi. The SATA drives seem to handle seeks from >>> multiple >>> processes better than the PATA, better even than might expect from >>> striping. >>> >>> At about 4500 hours of runtime one SATA drive developed a bad block >>> which the drive firmware was not able to automagically >>> substitute. gvinum >>> shut down. >>> >>> I see no reason why a SATA drive should be less reliable than a PATA >>> drive. Also remember back when one could purchase the same drive >>> hardware in either PATA or SCSI, so find it hard to accept the >>> interface >>> makes much difference in reliability. >>> >>> >> I don't know why it's true... I can state that I've had 3 of them >> so far, and had troubles with 2, and google is chock full of >> reports. Further, the info about them being the same as their IDE >> brethren isn't true, at least, the access rate specifications are >> higher for SATA drives, in general, as compared to IDE. Least >> they were the last time I checked, maybe it's changed inthe last 6 >> months. >> >> OTOH, when I first bought mine, I was comparing in my mind with >> SCSI, not IDE, maybe they *do* compare equally with IDE, is IDE >> that bad? Certainly, SATA is less reliable thant he scsi drives. >> >> > Don't compare IDE to SCSI. IDE is home/consumer grade. SCSI is > commercial/enterprise grade. Just look at the price differences, > because you most certainly get what you pay for with SCSI compared > to IDE. > > **Warning, the following contains anecdotal evidence** > I built a new rig for my brother with SATA and it has been > perfect. I only have IDE in my slightly older machine which runs > great 24/7. But this has just been my experience, as always YMMV. > One last thing, I would avoid the first generation of most > technology because they tend to still have some bugs. So if you > buy SATA don't et the discounted drive, look for a newer model and > you should be good. Also checkout storagereview.com > Most of the first generation SATA drives were actually PATA (aka IDE) drives with a separate SATA <-> PATA converter added (at the board level). Some newer SATA drives have native SATA interfaces and it is possible that the manufacturers do not make a PATA version of the same drive, but in most cases, SATA drives have PATA brethren and these PATA brethren have the same mechanisms. There are exceptions, and the WD Raptor series of SATA drives are more like SCSI in terms of performance and MTBF numbers, and they were designed for the same market as the lower end enterprise SCSI drives. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:22:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE2016A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:22:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f22.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE5143D95 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:22:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdaelli@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:22:08 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.210 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:22:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.210] X-Originating-Email: [vdaelli@hotmail.com] X-Sender: vdaelli@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <995071073.20050505131333@wanadoo.fr> From: "Valerio Daelli" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:22:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2005 12:22:08.0725 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E8BB850:01C5516D] Subject: Linux Perl Program not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:22:04 -0000 Hello everybody we are trying to use a linux perl program called Mascot on FreeBSD. It is statistical-bioinformatic software. We use this program on Linux RedHat 7.3 (glibc 2.3.2), perl 5.8.6. We copied the program and the libraries. We tried installing the ports linux_base (glibc 2.1.3), linux_base-rh-9 (2.3.2). What actually happens is this: 1) If we use freebsd-perl 5.8.6 (we tried the 'plain' and the ithreads one) when we launch this application it fails with a Bus error - core dump. We did a 'strace' on it and it fails after loading some libraries (I report it at the end). This perl program goes into a 'use msparser;', then the msparser.pm file calls a msparser.so file which is a Gnu/Linux shared object. We could't recompile this library since we don't have source code. We just copied it from Linux. /msparser.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), not stripped 2) If we use an rpm-installed Active Perl 5.8.6 designed for Linux Red Hat, the program fails with: Can't load '../bin/auto/msparser/msparser.so' for module msparser: ../bin/auto/msparser/msparser.so: ELF file OS ABI invalid at /usr/local/ActivePerl-5.8/lib/5.8.6/i686-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm line 230. Have anyone any idea what happened? Thanks Valerio Daelli Strace last lines of output: _______________________________________________________________ access("/lib/ld-linux.so.2", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/lib/ld-linux.so.2", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/lib/compat/ld-linux.so.2", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/local/lib/ld-linux.so.2", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/usr/X11R6/lib/ld-linux.so.2", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2", F_OK) = 0 mprotect(0x282bb000, 1286144, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0 mmap(0, 27880, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_ANON, -1, 0) = 0x28638000 munmap(0x28638000, 27880) = 0 mprotect(0x282bb000, 1286144, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0 mmap(0, 2528, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_ANON, -1, 0) = 0x28638000 munmap(0x28638000, 2528) = 0 mmap(0, 2984, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_ANON, -1, 0) = 0x28638000 munmap(0x28638000, 2984) = 0 mmap(0, 17504, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_ANON, -1, 0) = 0x28638000 munmap(0x28638000, 17504) = 0 mmap(0, 496, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_ANON, -1, 0) = 0x28638000 munmap(0x28638000, 496) = 0 sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL) = 0 --- SIGBUS (Bus error) --- --- SIGBUS (Bus error) --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:24:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E01E16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:24:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E0F43DA3 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:24:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j45CNIhZ009783; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:23:19 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j45COdV2016300; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:24:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j45COXZa016235; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:24:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:24:33 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jo?o Salvatti Message-ID: <20050505122433.GA4509@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <627d8c310505050513719aa980@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <627d8c310505050513719aa980@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compiler is used in FreeBSD's kernel compiling process. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:24:51 -0000 On 2005-05-05 09:13, Jo?o Salvatti wrote: > Hi all, > I'd like to know which compiler is used in FreeBSD's kernel compiling > process. If you use the recommended process of "buildworld and *THEN* buildkernel", the compiler toolchain that is built from /usr/src as part of the system upgrade is used for the kernel too. The /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 makefile contains a lot of comments that may be instructive, if you're interested to look at all the details. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:27:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997FB16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:27:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AAA43DAF for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:27:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d@donnacha.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1264C89536 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:27:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: llsuJFbwvYW5gwzNZHdhp8jHhxKDyVWm0e7q7WYZh64i 1115296059 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (82-41-213-217.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.213.217]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C4256F785 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:27:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427A1187.2050208@donnacha.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:28:55 +0100 From: freebsd.org@donnacha.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:27:48 -0000 Hello, I'm new to FreeBSD and this list, my name is Donnacha, I'm an Irishman living in Edinburgh, Scotland. I have read The Complete FreeBSD's section on disk partioning but would very much appreciate some advice on how to divide up the 2 HDDs I'm getting on my new server. The server is located in a facility in the US and will be used as a Web and email server. It has an 80GB HDD and a 200GB HDD, both IDE but I'm asking for them to be placed on seperate buses. I was thinking of using the 80GB as the primary and placing / on it, while putting /var, /usr and /home on the 200GB. I'll have 2GB of RAM, so, I was thinking about putting 2GB of swap on each HDD. How does that sound. I would be very grateful for any advice you can give me before I relay my instructions to the guys doing the installation. Thanks and I look forward to participating in this community, Donnacha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:56:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07916A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:56:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96F843D8D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:56:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j45Cu7JF009493; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j45Cu2rM009492; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: freebsd.org@donnacha.com Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:56:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <427A1187.2050208@donnacha.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:56:08 -0000 > > Hello, I'm new to FreeBSD and this list, my name is Donnacha, I'm an > Irishman living in Edinburgh, Scotland. > > I have read The Complete FreeBSD's section on disk partioning but would > very much appreciate some advice on how to divide up the 2 HDDs I'm > getting on my new server. > > The server is located in a facility in the US and will be used as a Web > and email server. It has an 80GB HDD and a 200GB HDD, both IDE but I'm > asking for them to be placed on seperate buses. > > I was thinking of using the 80GB as the primary and placing / on it, > while putting /var, /usr and /home on the 200GB. > > I'll have 2GB of RAM, so, I was thinking about putting 2GB of swap on > each HDD. > > How does that sound. I would be very grateful for any advice you can > give me before I relay my instructions to the guys doing the installation. It depends a lot on what you leave in /usr and /var and /home. It kind of looks like you will leave the 80GB drive mostly empty the way you are doing things. If all your accounts and web pages are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one for home directories and web pages. Since the default place for databases is in /var that can make a big difference on where you put it or if you take the db directory out of /var and put it somewhere else, etc. Putting some of your swap on each drive as you have indicated is a good idea. ////jerry > > Thanks and I look forward to participating in this community, > > Donnacha > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 13:25:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B71216A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:25:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DE043D81 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d@donnacha.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34677C89757; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:25:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: o3f/msOueA8KP3j6sBzsdhkHHHct5AjlBrETy8XO8zC9 1115299539 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (82-41-213-217.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.213.217]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2C7570147; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427A1ED5.9050507@donnacha.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:25:41 +0100 From: freebsd.org@donnacha.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:25:44 -0000 Jerry, thanks for your advice! > If all your accounts and web pages > are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined > to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one > for home directories and web pages. In The Complete FreeBSD, Greg Lehey suggests that it's a good idea to place web pages in /var, I don't quite grasp why. Do you think it would be a better idea to stick with the standard and leave web pages in /home? As for databases, I'll have a lot of MySQL DBs and possibly, at a later date, Postgresql. I'm hoping to specialize in forum-based web-sites and Web apps generally. As I understand it, forum content is actually stored in the DB and pulled dynamically via PHP, meaning, I think, that the DB of each forum will take up a lot more space that the templated PHP pages that make up the "site" part of the equation. I could be wrong about that. What about /tmp? Looking through this list's archives, I read that it's considered more secure to place /tmp on a seperate partition from /, would it be even more secure to place it on a seperate HDD? How big should /tmp be? Here's a pretty stupid question I have, apologies for my lack of clue: do I have to define the size of each partition? Is it difficult to change them at a later date? I'll only have command-line access. Thanks again, Donnacha Jerry McAllister wrote: >>Hello, I'm new to FreeBSD and this list, my name is Donnacha, I'm an >>Irishman living in Edinburgh, Scotland. >> >>I have read The Complete FreeBSD's section on disk partioning but would >>very much appreciate some advice on how to divide up the 2 HDDs I'm >>getting on my new server. >> >>The server is located in a facility in the US and will be used as a Web >>and email server. It has an 80GB HDD and a 200GB HDD, both IDE but I'm >>asking for them to be placed on seperate buses. >> >>I was thinking of using the 80GB as the primary and placing / on it, >>while putting /var, /usr and /home on the 200GB. >> >>I'll have 2GB of RAM, so, I was thinking about putting 2GB of swap on >>each HDD. >> >>How does that sound. I would be very grateful for any advice you can >>give me before I relay my instructions to the guys doing the installation. > > > It depends a lot on what you leave in /usr and /var and /home. > It kind of looks like you will leave the 80GB drive mostly empty > the way you are doing things. If all your accounts and web pages > are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined > to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one > for home directories and web pages. Since the default place for > databases is in /var that can make a big difference on where you put > it or if you take the db directory out of /var and put it somewhere > else, etc. > > Putting some of your swap on each drive as you have indicated > is a good idea. > > ////jerry > > >>Thanks and I look forward to participating in this community, >> >>Donnacha >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 13:41:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A43316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:41:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1021643D8E for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 7896 invoked from network); 5 May 2005 13:41:27 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 May 2005 13:41:27 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 28F6C30; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Lei Luo References: <42790067.7060307@eecis.udel.edu> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 05 May 2005 09:41:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <42790067.7060307@eecis.udel.edu> Message-ID: <44hdhheqnu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where tcp_timer_rexmt() is called? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:41:33 -0000 Lei Luo writes: > Does anyone know where the TCP retransmission function > tcp_timer_rexmt() is called? In other words, where is the code that > checks if a timer is timed out? In BSD4.3, there is a function called > tcp_timers() in tcp_timer.c. But in the recent release, the function > is removed. But where the functionality is placed now? It's put into an event on the timeout queue, which is processed by the softclock() routine. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 13:47:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0483316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:47:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0D543D49 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:47:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG00050ORNTXL@smtp16.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:47:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j45Dlr4s093488 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:47:53 +0200 (CEST envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:47:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: FreeBSD questions mailing list Message-id: <20050505154037.S49572@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: Subject: gnumeric portupgrade fails (libgnomedb) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:47:56 -0000 Hi, I tried to portupgrade gnumeric today (from 1.4.1 to 1.4.3_1), but it fails at the point where it tries to compile libgnomedb 1.2.1. It fails with the following error: ... gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c: In function `general_next_pressed_cb': gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c:246: error: `GdaProviderParameterInfo' undeclared (f irst use in this function) gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c:246: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c:246: error: for each function it appears in.) gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c:246: error: `param_info' undeclared (first use in th is function) gmake[1]: *** [gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.lo] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/databases/libgnomedb/work/libgnomedb-1.2 .1/libgnomedb' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/libgnomedb. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/math/gnumeric. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade44803.0 mak e ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! math/gnumeric (gnumeric-1.4.1) (compiler error) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed ... My portstree is up-to-date. Anyone has an idea how to solve this? Thanks. Marco -- We don't understand the software, and sometimes we don't understand the hardware, but we can *___see* the blinking lights! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 13:56:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C6F16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:56:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.185.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA33C43DB4 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Sebastian.Reichelt@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) Received: from hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de (hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.164.154]) by smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 4.43 #1) id 1DTgpx-0007se-4q; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:56:21 +0200 Received: from sebastian by hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTgpe-0000gc-If for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:56:02 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:56:02 +0200 From: Sebastian Reichelt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050505155602.556d2a3c.SebastianR@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <20050505022615.2abcf4c6.SebastianR@gmx.de> References: <20050505022615.2abcf4c6.SebastianR@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.7 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Sebastian Reichelt Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation Horror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:56:28 -0000 Now I got the CD from someone else, and finally the installation went well. It would still have been nice if all the things I described had just worked. I was able to install Debian without any problems, even though I didn't have any Unix experience at all. Compared to that, the FreeBSD installation should have been a piece of cake for me now. If I have to spend several days on it, I think a normal computer would give up without getting very far. Anyway, trying to establish a PPP connection still crashes the entire system. Actually, it's probably the serial port driver: It also crashes when I just do: echo "Hello" >/dev/cuaa0 Any ideas? -- Sebastian Reichelt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:00:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BE316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:00:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.185.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804CD43D48 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:00:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Sebastian.Reichelt@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) Received: from hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de (hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.164.154]) by smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 4.43 #1) id 1DTgu3-0008Uy-B2; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:00:35 +0200 Received: from sebastian by hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTgtk-0000hA-Sq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:00:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:00:16 +0200 From: Sebastian Reichelt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050505160016.023d154f.SebastianR@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <20050505155602.556d2a3c.SebastianR@gmx.de> References: <20050505022615.2abcf4c6.SebastianR@gmx.de> <20050505155602.556d2a3c.SebastianR@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.7 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Sebastian Reichelt Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation Horror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:00:41 -0000 > a normal computer Oops, that should read: "a normal computer user". :-) -- Sebastian Reichelt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:04:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A593616A4CE; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:04:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxc1.crockettint.com (chameleon1.crockettint.com [206.224.72.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2E843DC1; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:04:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emartinez@crockettint.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.crockettint.com [127.0.0.1]) by mxc1.crockettint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6679033E3E; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:04:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mxc1.crockettint.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mxc1.crockettint.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12873-01; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:04:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from memnoch (ausc1.crockettint.com [24.153.230.82]) by mxc1.crockettint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712CF33E37; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:04:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Edgar Martinez" To: "'Tomas Quintero'" , Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:04:09 -0500 Organization: Crockett International MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVJ60yH9uGxvtbTSCaBDHLLkCvMigHjymCQ In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e050425160557a21293@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <20050505140407.712CF33E37@mxc1.crockettint.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at crockettint.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 5.8TB RAID5 SATA Array - CONGRATS! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: emartinez@crockettint.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:04:13 -0000 All, I would like to THANK the dev team on 5.4 for all their hardwork. It has been delayed but I have to say that it really feels SOLID, and works like a dream...they have also surmounted some pretty HUGE problems in big disk support....KUDOS THANKS AWESOME...guys 5.4 is WORTH the wait... I think I can be the first to say that I have successfully created the worlds first sata based 16TB RAID container, on a single NAS server...tastes good... YOU GUYS ROCK! -----Original Message----- From: Tomas Quintero [mailto:tomasq@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:06 PM To: emartinez@crockettint.com Cc: Brent Wiese; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.8TB RAID5 SATA Array Questions - UPDATE I am almost a bit curious why you didn't go with a Microsoft based solution in a situation like this, where you are needing to provide SMB based file sharing to obviously Windows client desktops. Another solution would be to setup a dedicated NAS of some sort. But I suppose it's too late for all of that. On 4/25/05, Edgar Martinez wrote: > No flaming here, when dealing with projects this big, you cannot be bias > obviously because generally it is someone else's time and money that is on > the line. Thanks for the info, I didn't know the whole second array thing, > that would explain some of the weirdness that I have been seeing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brent Wiese [mailto:brently@bjwcs.com] > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:54 PM > To: emartinez@crockettint.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: 5.8TB RAID5 SATA Array Questions - UPDATE > > > Any one else think they know of a better method?? > > Well, I'm probably going to get totally flamed for this, but since you > asked... > > The better method is to install Windows 2003 Server. Assemble your drives > into 2TB or less RAID5 volumes (btw, you only want 1 per 3Ware card, more on > that in a second) and use Windows 2003 to span those volumes. It'll show up > as one drive after that. There is some limit, but I can't remember what it > is. Its huge though. > > And in case you didn't know, 3Ware cards are only speed-optimized for the > first array. Subsequent arrays on a card run painfully slow. They won't say > it in any of their lit, but if you corner their support people, they'll > admit it (it obvious if you try it). > > Sorry to mention M$ here, but it sounds like you invested incredible amounts > of time, and even Windows 2003 can be cheaper than your time at some point. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1ED816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:13:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61EF43DCB for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:13:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 19009 invoked from network); 5 May 2005 14:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.56.109]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 May 2005 14:13:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:13:15 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050505161315.60c175ff@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.4-STABLE panic: kernel trap 12 with interrupts diabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:13:22 -0000 Hello list, the day before yesterday I experienced my first panic on 5.4-STABLE. Build and cvsup'ed last Friday. My system is a ThinkPad R51 I did nothing spectacular, after boot I: logged in as user cdrecord -scanbus (which didn't work as I hadn't yet set it suid) su chmod +x for cdrecord and readcd (meant was +g ;-) exit cdrecord -scanbus (didn't yet work ;-) su cdrecord -scanbus (did work) readcd dev=2,0,0 -factor meshpoints=100 f=./file exit Then I moved the laptop and plugged in the AC/DC adapter. whoami brought me: Kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xa94d06c fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc053cbe5 stack pointer = 0x10:0xe669f98c frame pointer = 0x10:0xe669f990 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 601 (whoami) trap number = 12 panic: page fault I saved the dump manually with savecore and then tried to follow: fk@r51 ~ $nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c053cb c053cb4c T init_turnstiles c053cbc9 t init_turnstile0 c053cbd8 t turnstile_setowner My kernel contains "makeoptions DEBUG=-g", however I don't have the file /sys/compile/KERNELCONFIG/kernel.debug and thus wasn't able to do % gdb -k /sys/compile/KERNELCONFIG/kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.0 The next best thing seemed to be the -c option, no luck either. fk@r51 ~ $gdb -c vmcore.0 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd". "/usr/home/fk/vmcore.0" is not a core dump: File format not recognized (gdb) fk@r51 ~ $cat info.0 Dump header from device /dev/ad0s3b Architecture: i386 Architecture Version: 16777216 Dump Length: 536215552B (511 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Tue May 3 20:18:11 2005 Hostname: r51.local Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump Version String: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #6: Sat Apr 30 14:57:04 CEST 2005 fk@r51.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/THINKPAD Panic String: page fault Dump Parity: 1084811848 Bounds: 0 Dump Status: good The kernel was build "the new way". I was not able to reproduce the panic. Is there anything else I can do? Regards Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:16:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4985A16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:16:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD78F43D82 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DTh9K-0005I0-16; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:16:22 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: FreeBSD questions mailing list , Marco Beishuizen Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:16:31 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050505154037.S49572@yokozuna.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050505154037.S49572@yokozuna.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505050916.31297.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcf158b03b4d1754578ef9cfd465ef36d0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: Re: gnumeric portupgrade fails (libgnomedb) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:16:23 -0000 On Thursday 05 May 2005 08:47 am, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to portupgrade gnumeric today (from 1.4.1 to 1.4.3_1), but it > fails at the point where it tries to compile libgnomedb 1.2.1. It > fails with the following error: > > ... > gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c: In function `general_next_pressed_cb': > gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c:246: error: `GdaProviderParameterInfo' > undeclared (f irst use in this function) > gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c:246: error: (Each undeclared identifier > is reported only once > gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c:246: error: for each function it appears > in.) gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.c:246: error: `param_info' undeclared > (first use in th is function) > gmake[1]: *** [gnome-db-dsn-config-druid.lo] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/databases/libgnomedb/work/libgnomedb-1.2 .1/libgnomedb' > gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/libgnomedb. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/math/gnumeric. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > /tmp/portupgrade44803.0 mak e > ** Fix the problem and try again. > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) > ! math/gnumeric (gnumeric-1.4.1) (compiler error) > ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed > ... > > My portstree is up-to-date. Anyone has an idea how to solve this? > > Thanks. > > Marco Hi Marco, Do you need gnome-db? (Better yet, have you seen **any** documentation as how to use gnome-db from within gnumeric?) CONFIGURE_ARGS for the gnumeric port includes "--with-gnome-db". Perhaps you could try doing make without gnome-db ("make --without-gnome-db"?) and then do portupgrade. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:18:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E15716A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:18:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxc1.crockettint.com (chameleon1.crockettint.com [206.224.72.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA3D43D2D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:18:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emartinez@crockettint.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.crockettint.com [127.0.0.1]) by mxc1.crockettint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A8733E37; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:18:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mxc1.crockettint.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mxc1.crockettint.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12970-04; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:18:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from memnoch (ausc1.crockettint.com [24.153.230.82]) by mxc1.crockettint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8D633D90; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:18:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Edgar Martinez" To: "'Tomas Quintero'" Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:18:31 -0500 Organization: Crockett International MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVJ60yH9uGxvtbTSCaBDHLLkCvMigHkU1uw In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e050425160557a21293@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <20050505141829.9A8D633D90@mxc1.crockettint.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at crockettint.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 5.8TB RAID5 SATA Array Questions - UPDATE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: emartinez@crockettint.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:18:34 -0000 Question for the group...anyone know of a way to use an adaptec U160 controller to connect the NAS server to another system so the second system can write to the raid container thru the U160? (FBSD SATA RAID5 SERVER)<-->(GIG NETLINK)<-->(NETWORK) | -rw->(PCI U160)<-->(U160 CABLE)<-->(SERVER) -----Original Message----- From: Tomas Quintero [mailto:tomasq@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:06 PM To: emartinez@crockettint.com Cc: Brent Wiese; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.8TB RAID5 SATA Array Questions - UPDATE I am almost a bit curious why you didn't go with a Microsoft based solution in a situation like this, where you are needing to provide SMB based file sharing to obviously Windows client desktops. Another solution would be to setup a dedicated NAS of some sort. But I suppose it's too late for all of that. On 4/25/05, Edgar Martinez wrote: > No flaming here, when dealing with projects this big, you cannot be bias > obviously because generally it is someone else's time and money that is on > the line. Thanks for the info, I didn't know the whole second array thing, > that would explain some of the weirdness that I have been seeing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brent Wiese [mailto:brently@bjwcs.com] > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:54 PM > To: emartinez@crockettint.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: 5.8TB RAID5 SATA Array Questions - UPDATE > > > Any one else think they know of a better method?? > > Well, I'm probably going to get totally flamed for this, but since you > asked... > > The better method is to install Windows 2003 Server. Assemble your drives > into 2TB or less RAID5 volumes (btw, you only want 1 per 3Ware card, more on > that in a second) and use Windows 2003 to span those volumes. It'll show up > as one drive after that. There is some limit, but I can't remember what it > is. Its huge though. > > And in case you didn't know, 3Ware cards are only speed-optimized for the > first array. Subsequent arrays on a card run painfully slow. They won't say > it in any of their lit, but if you corner their support people, they'll > admit it (it obvious if you try it). > > Sorry to mention M$ here, but it sounds like you invested incredible amounts > of time, and even Windows 2003 can be cheaper than your time at some point. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:26:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FE616A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:26:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7A943D55 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2731830nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=RkccgaPtrQhuOuJLbX8MQjMNmr3SHulgpBL7In7ROMYBx7iKKe3c8ZgGUO13Q3oThazXrwt39PFjmMw7axzyHZ1/f9z7bGHwu97UKWw5NbMyl3yHN4sHX2sXdkyGb/rAcmjeVZrpMclsIejnuk/7B/bSEZKLiyXGGgPIwFrXyf4= Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr276578nzu; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.11 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2b5f066d050505072671fff21b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:26:36 -0400 From: Brian McCann To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: netgraph & netflow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Brian McCann List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:26:40 -0000 Hi all. I'm trying to get ng_netflow to work, and I'm having a heck of a time doing so. So if anyone can shed some light on my problem, please do so. I've tried multiple configurations, and can't get it to work right. I can only get it to see traffic in one direction (for example, flows from other PCs to the server. Flows starting from the server started by something like fetch or ssh don't show up as sourcing from the server). Here is the config that I thought would do that, but it's not. mkpeer fxp1: tee lower right connect fxp1: fxp1:lower upper left mkpeer fxp1:lower netflow left2right iface0 name fxp1:lower.left2right fxp1_netflow msg fxp1_netflow: setifindex { iface=3D0 index=3D5 } mkpeer fxp1_netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp msg fxp1_netflow:export connect inet/127.0.0.1:9800 Using this, when I run flowctl, it shows the source interface as ppp0 and sometimes sl0, which isn't even connected, and a dest interface of fxp1. If I switch all the "left2right"s with "right2left"s, I get only flows going to the server...so after reading how the tee in netgraph works, I assumed if I switched it, it would show the other direction. Any thoughts, suggestions? 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([59.93.160.183]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm1177151rnb.2005.05.05.07.47.49; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427A3203.7070405@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:17:31 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabian Keil References: <20050505161315.60c175ff@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20050505161315.60c175ff@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080407060101010905060900" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.4-STABLE panic: kernel trap 12 with interrupts diabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:47:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080407060101010905060900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/5/2005 19:43, Fabian Keil wrote: >Hello list, > >the day before yesterday I experienced my first >panic on 5.4-STABLE. Build and cvsup'ed last >Friday. My system is a ThinkPad R51 > >I did nothing spectacular, after boot I: > >logged in as user >cdrecord -scanbus (which didn't work as I hadn't yet set it suid) >su >chmod +x for cdrecord and readcd (meant was +g ;-) >exit >cdrecord -scanbus (didn't yet work ;-) >su >cdrecord -scanbus (did work) >readcd dev=2,0,0 -factor meshpoints=100 f=./file >exit > >Then I moved the laptop and plugged in the AC/DC adapter. > >whoami brought me: > >Kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled >Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >fault virtual address = 0xa94d06c >fault code = supervisor read, page not present >instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc053cbe5 >stack pointer = 0x10:0xe669f98c >frame pointer = 0x10:0xe669f990 >code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 >current process = 601 (whoami) >trap number = 12 >panic: page fault > >I saved the dump manually with savecore and then tried >to follow: > > >fk@r51 ~ $nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c053cb >c053cb4c T init_turnstiles >c053cbc9 t init_turnstile0 >c053cbd8 t turnstile_setowner > >My kernel contains "makeoptions DEBUG=-g", however >I don't have the file /sys/compile/KERNELCONFIG/kernel.debug >and thus wasn't able to do >% gdb -k /sys/compile/KERNELCONFIG/kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.0 > >The next best thing seemed to be the -c option, no luck either. > >fk@r51 ~ $gdb -c vmcore.0 >GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] >Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are >welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. >Type "show copying" to see the conditions. >There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. >This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd". >"/usr/home/fk/vmcore.0" is not a core dump: File format not recognized >(gdb) > >fk@r51 ~ $cat info.0 >Dump header from device /dev/ad0s3b > Architecture: i386 > Architecture Version: 16777216 > Dump Length: 536215552B (511 MB) > Blocksize: 512 > Dumptime: Tue May 3 20:18:11 2005 > Hostname: r51.local > Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > Version String: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #6: Sat Apr 30 14:57:04 CEST 2005 > fk@r51.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/THINKPAD > Panic String: page fault > Dump Parity: 1084811848 > Bounds: 0 > Dump Status: good > >The kernel was build "the new way". >I was not able to reproduce the panic. > >Is there anything else I can do? > >Regards >Fabian > > It would be great to have a look at the core. Can you put it up somewhere on the WEB? Also if you are not running a GENERIC kernel then let us have a look at the config file. Regards S. --------------080407060101010905060900-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:50:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47E216A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:50:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (static24-72-123-45.regina.accesscomm.ca [24.72.123.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F6543D72 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:50:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 263EA126; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:49:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:49:52 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050505144952.GK91867@seekingfire.com> References: <20050504213330.45410.qmail@web50408.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050504213330.45410.qmail@web50408.mail.yahoo.com> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does X-No-prize-winner: Nathanael User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Kerberos 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:50:00 -0000 On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 02:33:30PM -0700, Damian Sobieralski wrote: > > I have a fairly weird question for the group. I recently set up a > FreeBSD 5.3 box to use pam_krb5 for sshd authentication. It worked > great. I created a local workstation user via adduser and when it came > time for the password based question, I selected no. So when I logged > in, I typed "klist" and got some verbage back about my ticket in /tmp. > > I rebuilt the box and although I can log into the box, when I type > klist now I get: > > klist: No ticket file: /tmp/krb5cc_0 > > Or some variation of the ticket file name. It authenticates me okay > via kerneros or I couldn't get logged in, but any idea why this might > happen? How did you confirm that you were authenticating via Kerberos? Do you have an environment variable like KRB5CCNAME set anywhere? Which Kerberos are you talking about? The limited Heimdal in the base OS, the full Heimdal port or the MIT port? Do you have more than one in use and are perhaps running into path issues (running a different program than you think you're running)? > BTW- I read online that storing tickets like this (in /tmp) is > potentially a security risk for a server so the thought was to change > it to home directory tickets like the website recommends. It depends. In my environment, /home is NFS mounted. This is a Very Bad Thing for Kerberos tickets. In my case, each computer is basically a single-user workstation and /tmp actually is safer than /home. -T -- "Beauty is not diminished by being shared." -- Robert Heinlein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:53:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EDF16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (flb.schmalzbauer.de [62.245.232.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A33943DBE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harry@schmalzbauer.de) Received: from korso.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (korso.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.2.3]) by flb.schmalzbauer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j45Er10r030394; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:53:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from harry@cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) Received: from cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.1.254]) by korso.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4800E153; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:53:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j45Er1Df084598; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:53:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from harry@cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) j45Er0jH084597; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:53:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from harry@cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) From: Harald Schmalzbauer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:52:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4953586.1S93UcV32a"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505051653.00301@harrymail> cc: freebsd.org@donnacha.com Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:53:09 -0000 --nextPart4953586.1S93UcV32a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 14:56 schrieb Jerry McAllister: > > Hello, I'm new to FreeBSD and this list, my name is Donnacha, I'm an > > Irishman living in Edinburgh, Scotland. > > > > I have read The Complete FreeBSD's section on disk partioning but > > would very much appreciate some advice on how to divide up the 2 HDDs > > I'm getting on my new server. > > > > The server is located in a facility in the US and will be used as a > > Web and email server. It has an 80GB HDD and a 200GB HDD, both IDE > > but I'm asking for them to be placed on seperate buses. > > > > I was thinking of using the 80GB as the primary and placing / on it, > > while putting /var, /usr and /home on the 200GB. > > > > I'll have 2GB of RAM, so, I was thinking about putting 2GB of swap on > > each HDD. > > > > How does that sound. I would be very grateful for any advice you can > > give me before I relay my instructions to the guys doing the > > installation. > > It depends a lot on what you leave in /usr and /var and /home. > It kind of looks like you will leave the 80GB drive mostly empty > the way you are doing things. If all your accounts and web pages > are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined > to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one > for home directories and web pages. Since the default place for > databases is in /var that can make a big difference on where you put > it or if you take the db directory out of /var and put it somewhere > else, etc. > > Putting some of your swap on each drive as you have indicated > is a good idea. > Ack! I just wanted to point you to GPT. I always use my second drive=20 without MBR/slices/labels, just GPT. You can create up to 128 Pratitions=20 and together with either growfs ( if you leave unassigned space between=20 the partitions) or gconcat I have a very flexible storage solution (of=20 course gvinum is another option). It's also possible to create a GPT inside a slice (so even on the first=20 HD), just / must be on a bsdlabel. I use such a configuration for jails or virtual hosts, where every jail or= =20 virthos has its own mountpoint. Initially with not too much space (1G),=20 increased on demand. =2DHarry > ////jerry > > > Thanks and I look forward to participating in this community, > > > > Donnacha > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart4953586.1S93UcV32a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCejNMBylq0S4AzzwRAgugAKCEzkB+mS9XMKPLoGUDQFRxviK1ggCfaXvt MdjiY1I6cKyM/xqDQkBWKtw= =bO58 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4953586.1S93UcV32a-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:53:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F9D16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4503643DB8 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B47AC89E49 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:53:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: 6HbsZbvyPAV6/g7oex9lEq3yooTiAngr9AoA6XaZNRV9 1115304785 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-68-53.access.as9105.com [80.41.68.53]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF8D5F for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:53:05 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:52:40 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <427A1ED5.9050507@donnacha.com> In-Reply-To: <427A1ED5.9050507@donnacha.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505051552.41644.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:53:11 -0000 On Thursday 05 May 2005 14:25, freebsd.org@donnacha.com wrote: > Jerry, thanks for your advice! > > > If all your accounts and web pages > > are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined > > to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one > > for home directories and web pages. > > In The Complete FreeBSD, Greg Lehey suggests that it's a good idea to > place web pages in /var, I don't quite grasp why. Do you think it would > be a better idea to stick with the standard and leave web pages in /home? Possibly, he sees it as the kind of thing that should go in /var due to frequent changes. /var holds things that generate heavy file fragmentation, such as spool files, logs etc. > What about /tmp? Looking through this list's archives, I read that it's > considered more secure to place /tmp on a seperate partition from /, > would it be even more secure to place it on a seperate HDD? How big > should /tmp be? The precise size depends on your needs, people use values from a few hundred MB to a few GB, however generally applictions that need a lot of temporary storage will let you specify where it goes. / is probably the worst partition to put /tmp in. In FreeBSD the root partition is small and contains the critical files needed to get the system up into single user mode, so you can perform repairs. You want to reduce to risk of damaging it, and it's used without soft-updates or background checking, so it's not very efficient for writing anyway. /usr doesn't need to be all that big, a lot of people symlink out /usr/ports and /usr/src and have just 4GB - even on a desktop. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:56:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0795D16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:56:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from depot.depot.axxiscorp.com (ip-64-32-234-4.dsl.iad.megapath.net [64.32.234.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D8043DA5 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:56:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from RJV@WEBLINKMO.COM) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:14:49 -0500 Message-ID: <5EEBE9C3C61D1142994C6B620C51E847110A73@depot.weblinkmo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 5 day lockup on Densitron thread-index: AcVRhSxt4cawLmEcRP2GeBvGZoonnQ== From: "Richard J. Valenta" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: 5 day lockup on Densitron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:56:39 -0000 Hello all, I'm new to this list, but have been a part of the alpha list for some time - I hope I picked the right list for my questions. =20 At work we had a machine which had in it a 200mhz pentium - the machine was an all-in-one flat panel made by a company named Densitron for industrial use. On one side of it was a the flat/touch panel, and the idea was that it was a complete machine that could be installed into a wall - how cool is that? So when we needed to upgrade, I got my hands on it, and thought it would make a cool firewall to install into the wall of phone/ethernet panel in my basement. I installed two ISA 3com cards and FreeBSD 5.3, everything seemed to work fine, but just to be safe I left it to run for a while. I came back a few days later and it had locked up... So I restarted it, and logged in as root, ran top - and let it go for a few days. Alsways a lockup, I've now done this a few times and it seems to happen at 5 days, 1 hour and roughly 40 minutes. Without fail, after 5 days I'll come downstairs and find it locked up at 5 days, 1 hour, etc... I'm at a loss as to why, I'm no expert with the crontab, so maybe I'm missing something. But I'm looking for ideas, thanks. =20 Richard =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:59:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0F716A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:59:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7A243DA6 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:59:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101])j45ExRFT023016 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:59:27 -0400 X-ORBL: [64.108.40.225] Received: from jacob.6texans.net (adsl-64-108-40-225.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net [64.108.40.225])j45ExRkb066348 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:59:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:59:27 -0500 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Running out of memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:59:30 -0000 I've got a server that keeps running out of memory and crashing. It has 1GB of swap and 1GB of ram. I originally made the swap the same size as the ram, as my previous experience with *nix machines was that when swap is double the size of ram, the computer is almost totally unuseable for at least 30 minutes whenever the computer needs to clean out swap. Has anyone else seen this problem, or is it safe for me to add another GB of swap? Also, I made the mistake of partitioning all the space on the hard drive, with only 1GB set aside for swap. How big of a performance hit would it be to use a swap file instead of a swap partition? Is there an easy (and safe!) way to resize partitions so that I could add in a second swap partition? TIA, Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:07:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA52816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:07:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cortizone.yoafrica.com (cortizone.yoafrica.com [196.44.176.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AEF43D8A for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:07:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sysjo@hades.yoafrica.com) Received: from hades.yoafrica.com ([196.44.177.50] ident=postfix) by cortizone.yoafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DTehJ-000CmA-Fo; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:39:17 +0200 Received: by hades.yoafrica.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 90D95622D; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:39:00 +0200 (CAT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:39:00 +0200 From: John Oxley To: exim-users@exim.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050505113900.GB10681@yoafrica.com> Mail-Followup-To: exim-users@exim.org, questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: TCP Header Rewrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:07:22 -0000 Hi, I am cross posting this to exim-users@exim and questions@freebsd because my problem lies with both. Okay, the scenario: I am an ISP dealing with a lot of clients who like sending lots and lots of mail. Currently they are all sending out through a smart host, which checks mail for spam and viruses. All local bandwidth is given at the maximum of the carrier (radio, leased line etc) and international bandwidth is limited to what the client pays for. This is the way mail flows. local ^ I I client --> smarthost --> router --> shaper --> international The smarthost is a FreeBSD-5.3-STABLE system running exim 4.50 built from the exim-mysql port. The router is transparent. This setup works well as is, but the problem is that the shaper thinks that the traffic has come from the smarthost itself, and not the client, and thus the client isn't being bandwidth limited for international mail. My solution to this would be to rewrite the TCP header on the smarthost of all mail packets going out to make them look like they came from the client rather than the smart host. That way the shaper will pick up the packets as though they were from the customer and appropriately shape them. The Exim Side of things: ======================== I was thinking of rewriting the remote_smtp transport to send mail to a program which then sends the message off with modified headers. I would do it something like this remote_smtp: driver = pipe command = HEADER_MOD_COMMAND Is there a better way of doing this? Correct me if I am wrong, but this will send the entire mail to STDIN of HEADER_MOD_COMMAND? The FreeBSD side of things (**hairy**): ======================================= Once I have the mail sent to the command i was thinking of sending it off through a pipe of some description. I am wondering however to do this. PF with AltQ, which I have never done before, or should I use a ipfw pipe with a divert? And how would I do it on this side? Has anyone done something similar to this? I would have to take the mail and look at the contents to see where it came from in order to mangle the headers, then reintroduce through the pipe. What sort of processor overhead will I be looking at? I am not to worried because CPU time is much cheaper than bandwidth. The smarthost is currently a 2.8Ghz server but can be upgraded if the load gets too high. TIA -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:14:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DAA16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:14:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp17.wxs.nl (smtp17.wxs.nl [195.121.6.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E79943DB8 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:14:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp17.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG000DRPVNHKC@smtp17.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 17:14:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j45FE5CH018109; Thu, 05 May 2005 17:14:05 +0200 (CEST envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:14:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <200505050916.31297.algould@datawok.com> Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-id: <20050505171223.X17820@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <20050505154037.S49572@yokozuna.lan> <200505050916.31297.algould@datawok.com> cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: gnumeric portupgrade fails (libgnomedb) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:14:11 -0000 On stardate Thu, 5 May 2005, the wise Andrew L. Gould entered: > Hi Marco, > > Do you need gnome-db? (Better yet, have you seen **any** documentation > as how to use gnome-db from within gnumeric?) I don't think so. I thought Gnumeric needed it, it's installed as a dependency. Other gnome applications may also need it I guess. > CONFIGURE_ARGS for the gnumeric port includes "--with-gnome-db". > Perhaps you could try doing make without gnome-db ("make > --without-gnome-db"?) and then do portupgrade. I'll try but if that argument is in the configure, doesn't that imply that Gnumeric needs it? Thanks, Marco -- When I was a kid I said to my father one afternoon, "Daddy, will you take me to the zoo?" He answered, "If the zoo wants you let them come and get you." -- Jerry Lewis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:17:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FBC16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:17:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A471043D81 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:17:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d@donnacha.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B29C89E02; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:17:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: 70vg/ZhPrWtAKbAzHnPQtutYpor5UaJJRQ3OKMA7I8c2 1115306233 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (82-41-213-217.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.213.217]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621A4570147; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427A391D.5090401@donnacha.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:17:49 +0100 From: freebsd.org@donnacha.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <427A1ED5.9050507@donnacha.com> <17018.12641.275076.802782@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17018.12641.275076.802782@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Robert Huff Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:17:16 -0000 Thanks for taking the time to advise me Robert. > Consider putting the databases (data, not code) in their own > partition. That way they can be backed up, restored, and otherwise > managed independantly of other system operations. > The downside of this is you lose the ability to "borrow" space > from a larger partition. Is MySQL's code usually installed in /var, alongside the DB data? If so, where would you suggest I instead place the code? > As for swap: you've got 2gb ... now. Is there any chance > you'll add more in the future? Then build the system with swap for > that value. Thanks, hadn't thought of that! Seeing as I have plenty of space, I'll make it 4GB per HDD, having lots of swap can't hurt, can it? > As always, spread it multiple spindles for better > performance. Does each disk have multiple spindles? Are they like platters? I am aware that swap should be placed on the outer edge of each disk. >> How big should /tmp be? > > This may be hard to determine. My workstation uses 18k /tmp on > a 500mb / ... except when certain programs are running ("make > buildworld"??). With that much space, you might want to consider: > put /tmp under/, but leave unallocated space (100-500 mb) on the > other drive that could be put into service if that proves > insufficient. Wow, I didn't realize I could get away with using so little space for /tmp. I guess 1GB should cover it then, is that right? > recreate the partition at the new size (using only contiguous > space) Okay, how about the following, leaving plenty of space for resizing partitions at a later date: 80GB HDD: / = 30GB swap = 4GB free space = 46GB 200GB HDD: /db (special partition for database data)= 50GB /var = 50GB (may be a heavy-duty mail server at some stage) /home = 30GB /usr = 10GB /tmp = 1GB swap = 4GB free space = 55GB Does that make sense? Am I leaving enough free space to shift things around at a later stage? Do some of my allocations seem disproportionate? I might also use some of the free space on each disk to hold temporary back-ups of the data on the other. Thanks, Donnacha Robert Huff wrote: > Hello: > > >> In The Complete FreeBSD, Greg Lehey suggests that it's a good >> idea to place web pages in /var, I don't quite grasp why. > > > /var is intended for things with a moderate change rate, for > example mail queues and system logs. (/tmp is for things with a > high change rate.) It's also understood that if something is /var > gets trashed in a crash, core system operations ought not to be > adversely affected. > > >> How big should /tmp be? > > > This may be hard to determine. My workstation uses 18k /tmp on > a 500mb / ... except when certain programs are running ("make > buildworld"??). With that much space, you might want to consider: > put /tmp under/, but leave unallocated space (100-500 mb) on the > other drive that could be put into service if that proves > insufficient. > > >> As for databases, I'll have a lot of MySQL DBs and possibly, at a >> later date, Postgresql. I'm hoping to specialize in forum-based >> web-sites and Web apps generally. As I understand it, forum >> content is actually stored in the DB and pulled dynamically via >> PHP, meaning, I think, that the DB of each forum will take up a >> lot more space that the templated PHP pages that make up the >> "site" part of the equation. I could be wrong about that. > > > Consider putting the databases (data, not code) in their own > partition. That way they can be backed up, restored, and otherwise > managed independantly of other system operations. > The downside of this is you lose the ability to "borrow" space > from a larger partition. > > >> Here's a pretty stupid question I have, apologies for my lack of >> clue: do I have to define the size of each partition? > > > Yes. > > >> Is it difficult to change them at a later date? > > > The only sanctioned way to change partition size is: > > unmount the partition > back up the contents > delete the partition > recreate the partition at the new size (using only contiguous > space) > newfs the partition > restors from backup > > If you need to add space to a otherwise functioning filesystem, > and you have open positions on your IDE cables, look into using > "ccd". > > As for swap: you've got 2gb ... now. Is there any chance > you'll add more in the future? Then build the system with swap for > that value. As always, spread it multiple spindles for better > performance. > > > Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:28:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3710816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:28:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD5843D6E for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:28:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DTiHR-0001H3-M8; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:28:49 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Marco Beishuizen Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:28:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050505154037.S49572@yokozuna.lan> <200505050916.31297.algould@datawok.com> <20050505171223.X17820@yokozuna.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050505171223.X17820@yokozuna.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505051028.59143.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcd6e8a9a70de36af75ff5d44a9cf757c9350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: gnumeric portupgrade fails (libgnomedb) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:28:54 -0000 On Thursday 05 May 2005 10:14 am, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On stardate Thu, 5 May 2005, the wise Andrew L. Gould entered: > > Hi Marco, > > > > Do you need gnome-db? (Better yet, have you seen **any** > > documentation as how to use gnome-db from within gnumeric?) > > I don't think so. I thought Gnumeric needed it, it's installed as a > dependency. Other gnome applications may also need it I guess. > > > CONFIGURE_ARGS for the gnumeric port includes "--with-gnome-db". > > Perhaps you could try doing make without gnome-db ("make > > --without-gnome-db"?) and then do portupgrade. > > I'll try but if that argument is in the configure, doesn't that > imply that Gnumeric needs it? > > Thanks, > Marco I think that the fact that it's a configuration argument implies that it's optional. (If it wasn't optional, why would the option be available.) The question that remains would be whether there are features of gnumeric that you use that require gnome-db. Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:35:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E3E16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:35:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F5A43D9B for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:35:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d@donnacha.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9FBC89D7A for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:35:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: Lp1K6w8iA7w2HHScgTJBhbWxyN/6DWoewBSPWW5C0Oh7 1115307299 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (82-41-213-217.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.213.217]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476DA570393; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427A3D50.5010906@donnacha.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:35:44 +0100 From: freebsd.org@donnacha.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <427A1ED5.9050507@donnacha.com> <200505051552.41644.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200505051552.41644.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: RW Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:35:01 -0000 Thanks RW. >> How big should /tmp be? > > The precise size depends on your needs, people use values from a few hundred > MB to a few GB, however generally applictions that need a lot of temporary > storage will let you specify where it goes. So, do you think 1GB for /tmp will be enough? > / is probably the worst partition to put /tmp in. In FreeBSD the root > partition is small and contains the critical files needed to get the system > up into single user mode, so you can perform repairs. You want to reduce to > risk of damaging it, and it's used without soft-updates or background > checking, so it's not very efficient for writing anyway. Well, I'm going to give /tmp it's own partition on the other HDD, well away from /. > Possibly, he sees it as the kind of thing that should go in /var due to > frequent changes. /var holds things that generate heavy file fragmentation, > such as spool files, logs etc. So, is he trying to protect the programs that individual users install in their /home directories? Donnacha RW wrote: > On Thursday 05 May 2005 14:25, freebsd.org@donnacha.com wrote: > >>Jerry, thanks for your advice! >> >> > If all your accounts and web pages >> > are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined >> > to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one >> > for home directories and web pages. >> >>In The Complete FreeBSD, Greg Lehey suggests that it's a good idea to >>place web pages in /var, I don't quite grasp why. Do you think it would >>be a better idea to stick with the standard and leave web pages in /home? > > > Possibly, he sees it as the kind of thing that should go in /var due to > frequent changes. /var holds things that generate heavy file fragmentation, > such as spool files, logs etc. > > > >>What about /tmp? Looking through this list's archives, I read that it's >>considered more secure to place /tmp on a seperate partition from /, >>would it be even more secure to place it on a seperate HDD? How big >>should /tmp be? > > > The precise size depends on your needs, people use values from a few hundred > MB to a few GB, however generally applictions that need a lot of temporary > storage will let you specify where it goes. > > / is probably the worst partition to put /tmp in. In FreeBSD the root > partition is small and contains the critical files needed to get the system > up into single user mode, so you can perform repairs. You want to reduce to > risk of damaging it, and it's used without soft-updates or background > checking, so it's not very efficient for writing anyway. > > /usr doesn't need to be all that big, a lot of people symlink out /usr/ports > and /usr/src and have just 4GB - even on a desktop. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:42:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4245316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:42:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E829543D78 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d@donnacha.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDFEC8A0F6; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:42:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: 4PwVjtTtHH0ZfGX0HZkJBuSNHRolueJ1z7Kx7SlPJO1i 1115307764 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (82-41-213-217.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.213.217]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CF35703BC; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427A3F28.4040106@donnacha.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:43:36 +0100 From: freebsd.org@donnacha.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <200505051653.00301@harrymail> In-Reply-To: <200505051653.00301@harrymail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Harald Schmalzbauer Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:42:46 -0000 Hi Harald, thanks. GPT sounds great but the quick search I did turned up a lot of references to 64-bit chips i.e. FreeBSD.org said "The GPT partitioning scheme was introduced with the ia64 architecture as an MBR replacement". Can GPT be also be used on 32-bit chips? My server has a single P4 2.8 533FSB. Also, is it easy to implement and commonly know about? I ask because I won't be the one doing the initial installation. Thanks, Donnacha Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 14:56 schrieb Jerry McAllister: > >>>Hello, I'm new to FreeBSD and this list, my name is Donnacha, I'm an >>>Irishman living in Edinburgh, Scotland. >>> >>>I have read The Complete FreeBSD's section on disk partioning but >>>would very much appreciate some advice on how to divide up the 2 HDDs >>>I'm getting on my new server. >>> >>>The server is located in a facility in the US and will be used as a >>>Web and email server. It has an 80GB HDD and a 200GB HDD, both IDE >>>but I'm asking for them to be placed on seperate buses. >>> >>>I was thinking of using the 80GB as the primary and placing / on it, >>>while putting /var, /usr and /home on the 200GB. >>> >>>I'll have 2GB of RAM, so, I was thinking about putting 2GB of swap on >>>each HDD. >>> >>>How does that sound. I would be very grateful for any advice you can >>>give me before I relay my instructions to the guys doing the >>>installation. >> >>It depends a lot on what you leave in /usr and /var and /home. >>It kind of looks like you will leave the 80GB drive mostly empty >>the way you are doing things. If all your accounts and web pages >>are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined >>to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one >>for home directories and web pages. Since the default place for >>databases is in /var that can make a big difference on where you put >>it or if you take the db directory out of /var and put it somewhere >>else, etc. >> >>Putting some of your swap on each drive as you have indicated >>is a good idea. >> > > > Ack! I just wanted to point you to GPT. I always use my second drive > without MBR/slices/labels, just GPT. You can create up to 128 Pratitions > and together with either growfs ( if you leave unassigned space between > the partitions) or gconcat I have a very flexible storage solution (of > course gvinum is another option). > It's also possible to create a GPT inside a slice (so even on the first > HD), just / must be on a bsdlabel. > I use such a configuration for jails or virtual hosts, where every jail or > virthos has its own mountpoint. Initially with not too much space (1G), > increased on demand. > > -Harry > > >>////jerry >> >> >>>Thanks and I look forward to participating in this community, >>> >>>Donnacha >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:44:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E091916A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:44:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BDB43DBA for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bhaban@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so569047nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aVUW6yFS9TIfKSU76nmqhX+lwh5WsFC3iNiv4v2I8y/z+IXe5P3VVqyyx6pLirUVlCEGwPEg7yk0zD+3FBUZtM9Axd7S9Opy08akApGEFMGYifR3LES9N8kMMVpuV98+rHbDrnliqucuy7bmK9fVYOTBMzjjS+06VEjRRGkbI9Y= Received: by 10.36.23.5 with SMTP id 5mr352184nzw; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.15 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5bf722450505050844688e1b3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:44:56 +0900 From: Bhaban Singh To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: regarding SYSINIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bhaban Singh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:44:58 -0000 Hello Sir, Is SYSINIT is same as module_init() in linux? freebsd also has module_init() funcation, can I used that function instead of SYSINIT? please confirm me my question. thanking you regards bhaban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:44:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3A716A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:44:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692C543DBF for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bhaban@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so350094nzf for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aVUW6yFS9TIfKSU76nmqhX+lwh5WsFC3iNiv4v2I8y/z+IXe5P3VVqyyx6pLirUVlCEGwPEg7yk0zD+3FBUZtM9Axd7S9Opy08akApGEFMGYifR3LES9N8kMMVpuV98+rHbDrnliqucuy7bmK9fVYOTBMzjjS+06VEjRRGkbI9Y= Received: by 10.36.23.5 with SMTP id 5mr352184nzw; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.15 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5bf722450505050844688e1b3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:44:56 +0900 From: Bhaban Singh To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: regarding SYSINIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bhaban Singh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:44:58 -0000 Hello Sir, Is SYSINIT is same as module_init() in linux? freebsd also has module_init() funcation, can I used that function instead of SYSINIT? please confirm me my question. thanking you regards bhaban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:47:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F422616A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:47:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB40643DA5 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:47:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xiris.cityofpaloalto.org ([172.17.1.15]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 5 May 2005 08:47:54 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:47:50 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Very Slow FTP Uploads Thread-Index: AcUzu4IQ5a7bQVMrThaPPD08KjHsqgdzemSA From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: "Charles Swiger" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2005 15:47:54.0369 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD1F7F10:01C55189] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Pico editor for 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:47:54 -0000 I am installing Pico on BSD 5.3, the installation for Pico goes up to = ver. 4. Will this work or is there another solution. I have vi installed = already but I have Pico user here. Thanks, VJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:56:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E0016A4D7 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:56:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from host50a.simplicato.com (host50a.simplicato.com [207.99.47.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BDFE43DA0 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:56:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gadfly@exitleft.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.simplicato.com [127.0.0.1]) by host50a.simplicato.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C8F6AF0FC for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host50a.simplicato.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (host50a.simplicato.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 90098-01 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.36.219] (unknown [216.37.114.8]) by host50a.simplicato.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B4D6AF0E7 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427A423E.30803@exitleft.org> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:56:46 -0400 From: ravi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050311 Thunderbird/1.0 Mnenhy/0.7.2.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at simplicato.com Subject: 4.9-RELEASE Xorg switch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:56:51 -0000 hello all, i switched from XFree86 to X.org on my 4.9-RELEASE system, using the instructions in UPDATING. i had to do one extra things, before i could finish the Xorg install: i had to force upgrade of mesa-4 to mesa-6 (under new name, which i forget). i also edited make.conf and changed X_WINDOW_SYSTEM. now, after the switch, i have the same problem with 'pkgdb -F', reported in: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2004-November/063409.html kris kennaway responded to that question with the below: -------------------------- > > On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 08:10:51PM -0500, Ralph M. Los wrote: > >> OK, so what I did was followed the UPDATING file's advice, and did the >> customary: >> >> pkg_delete -f /var/db/pkg/imake-4* /var/db/pkg/XFree86-* >> cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg && make install >> pkgdb -F >> >> But I STILL get this after the pkgdb -F, now what?? > > Er, read the rest of the advice ;-) > > Hint: the 20040723 entry. > -------------------------- i looked at the 20040723 entry again, but there is nothing more to do (in my case) listed there. also 20040723 gives instructions for 5.x, FreeBSD-current, -stable and older -current, but doesn't explicitly mention -release (which is what i run). to restate, my problem is that 'pkgdb -F' now reports many stale dependencies on imake-4 and XFree86*. (i could probably run 'pkgdb ... -s /imake-4/imake-6/ ...' to fix the image-4 issue, though i am not sure even that's the right fix. that still leaves me with the XFree86 dependencies). i am sure i am missing something obvious, but having searched the archives, i haven't found the fix. any advice? thank you! --ravi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:57:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A6816A4D0 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:57:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EADC43DA0 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG000I3EXOMZT@smtp19.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 17:57:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j45Fvw4f098047; Thu, 05 May 2005 17:57:58 +0200 (CEST envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:57:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <200505051028.59143.algould@datawok.com> Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-id: <20050505174836.H17820@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <20050505154037.S49572@yokozuna.lan> <200505050916.31297.algould@datawok.com> <20050505171223.X17820@yokozuna.lan> <200505051028.59143.algould@datawok.com> cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: gnumeric portupgrade fails (libgnomedb) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:58:00 -0000 On stardate Thu, 5 May 2005, the wise Andrew L. Gould entered: >>> CONFIGURE_ARGS for the gnumeric port includes "--with-gnome-db". >>> Perhaps you could try doing make without gnome-db ("make >>> --without-gnome-db"?) and then do portupgrade. >> >> I'll try but if that argument is in the configure, doesn't that >> imply that Gnumeric needs it? > > I think that the fact that it's a configuration argument implies that > it's optional. (If it wasn't optional, why would the option be > available.) The question that remains would be whether there are > features of gnumeric that you use that require gnome-db. Well I tried to change some options in the makefile but no matter what I try (--without-gnome-db; --without-gnomedb; --without-libgnomedb) it wants to compile libgnomedb and it stops with the same error. I also tried a "make install --without-gnome-db" etc. in the /usr/ports/math/gnumeric directly, instead of portupgrading it. But that doesn't work either because it says: make: illegal option -- -. Does this mean that only "--with" is legal and "--without" is not? Marco -- I'm going to live forever, or die trying! -- Spider Robinson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 16:00:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03E416A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:00:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.nativenerds.com (host-70-0-111-24.midco.net [24.111.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2595D43D53 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from [192.168.1.89] (host-133-35-230-24.midco.net [24.230.35.133]) j45GF5ve029522; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:15:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Message-ID: <427A4341.8080406@nativenerds.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:01:05 -0600 From: Ed Stover Organization: Native Nerds User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050503) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" References: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> In-Reply-To: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BIZ_TLD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mail.nativenerds.com cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: installing big qmail server ... where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@nativenerds.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:00:52 -0000 Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: > Hi all, > > I have to plan and setup a mail solution for about 50.000 users, here are > some key features requested by our customer: > > - self coded webfrontend w/ webmail and administration (filter, alias etc) > - 100MB quota per user > - autoresponder > - about 50.000 user > - online backup of data > - some more featuers for web frontend > > Since I happily use qmail for some other (but smaller) installations, I > want to try it with qmail here for this project as well. My only problem > is, I have no clue where to start ... beginning from "should I use 2 > redundant and really strong or some more but cheaper servers?" to "which > qmail distributions and patches should I use (ldap, mysql, ...)?" and "how > to store data (mails) and do online backup w/o downtime?". Some possible tutorials to help you on your way are: QMR (qmail rocks) FreeBSD http://freebsd.qmailrocks.org/ ( Has Mysql, vpopmail, clam-av, spamassin, ) Mail Toaster http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/index.shtml (has mysql) An honest 50,000 users an mysql implementation might be a little more hardware intensive then an ldap in the long run so you might want to drop a mail to freebsd-isp mailing list and ask around there too for ldap stuff. Dont forget to if you plan on using maildir as a mail storage solution then remember that inodes become very important because you WILL run out of them. A solution can be found in the existing man pages, read "man tuning" before proceeding onto building your server. You might want to stay away from old school imap software like imap-uw because they lack the advanced features like quota support that you will need to enforce quotas for your users. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 16:04:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CCE16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:04:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.nativenerds.com (host-70-0-111-24.midco.net [24.111.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEABB43DA6 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:04:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from [192.168.1.89] (host-133-35-230-24.midco.net [24.230.35.133]) j45GIH6R029546; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:18:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Message-ID: <427A4401.30105@nativenerds.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:04:17 -0600 From: Ed Stover Organization: Native Nerds User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050503) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Teslik References: <20050504021412.M91151@acatysmoof.com> In-Reply-To: <20050504021412.M91151@acatysmoof.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mail.nativenerds.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dynamically limit ip connections to ports over time? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@nativenerds.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:04:15 -0000 Alex Teslik wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been running a FreeBSD box for a few years. Over this time spammers > and other unfriendlies have found my box and have been attacking at a slowly > increasing rate. Every night the daily periodic scripts run and report to me > the number of rejected mail hosts. Last week, one of the rejected mail hosts > had the number of rejections listed at 3000. My hard drive has been getting > louder and louder as it gets busier rejecting and logging all of these and now > I would like to do something about it... but I'm not sure what I can do. When > the hard drive is at its busiest I see mail being virus and spam scanned at a > dizzying rate (tail -f /var/log/maillog), hence the hard drive grinding. > What I would LIKE to do is allow any ip to connect to a port for a > specified number of times per minute. If they connect too many times than I > would like to freeze them out for a specified amount of time. This solution > should be dynamic so that I don't need to constantly monitor the offending ip > addresses. Here is an idea, try grey listing for denying spam and portsentry to keep the un-friendlies blocked. Both programs are fairly simple to setup and maintain. Greylisting will deny incoming email for a set amount of retries and time, thus you only get mail from real mail servers because spammers don't usually try resending the spam after the initially list has run. Portsentry is designed to detect incoming scans and block deny the IP afterwards. It is kinda like a honey pot but funner ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 16:13:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BC216A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:13:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D85843D9A for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:13:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d@donnacha.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3546C8996A; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:13:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: QN/ejPT4uNpWksywlHrmWx7zSeIubIOaYVdKXzysoM1V 1115309586 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (82-41-213-217.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.213.217]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201C788; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427A4658.3010806@donnacha.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:14:16 +0100 From: freebsd.org@donnacha.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <427A1ED5.9050507@donnacha.com> <200505050955120728.22A9DCBB@mail.intradyn.com> In-Reply-To: <200505050955120728.22A9DCBB@mail.intradyn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Henry Miller Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:13:10 -0000 Hi Henry, thanks for your advice. > It occurs to me that you are on the wrong track asking here. Ask > people who run a forum about as big as you think yours can get how big > the database is, and how big the templates are. If their database is > 150Gb, then you should dedicate one disk for database (that is > /var/db/postgressql is a separate partition that takes the entire 200Gb > Disk), than start saving for a RAID system to replace that disk because > it will fill up! Well, most of the forum admins who are active in the forum-management forums seem to use Linux. I've had my own experience of RedHat kernal Hell, so, I'm opting for FreeBSD because I have a hunch that it will be more reliable and easier to scale as my business expands. Although, yes, they have more experience running forums, I figured that it would be better to get FreeBSD-specific advice here. > Well you can place databases anywhere you want. If they are very big > you would want a external RAID to place them on, though that is > overkill for most forums. However make sure you make /var a big > partition if you place them there. You are right that the database > will be far more space than the templates. At the moment an external RAID is way, way beyond my means, that's something I might graduate to if these forums of mine take off! > Although in general splitting swap is a good idea, I wouldn't. By > putting swap all on one disk, and the web pages on the other you can > split the load a little (with 2GB of RAM you shouldn't be swapping > much anyway) There might be other ways to split the load. That's a REALLY interesting take on Swap. How would this work out for load balance: /, /tmp and 8gb of Swap all on the 80GB, while I put /home, /usr and my massive /var on the 200GB? Or should I shift /home or /usr over to the first HDD too? > This assumes that you won't have many local users, you are not also > running as a fileserver, and your few local users won't have big files > around. Yeah, that's correct. > Yes it is difficult to change partitions latter. you have to backup > everything, change, re-install, then restore. Lots of down time. Hmm, that makes me wonder if it might not make sense to follow Greg Lehey's suggestion and lump the web pages into /var alongside the database data. That way, I can create one big partition and not have to guesstimate how much space either type of data will require. Then again, I'd lose the ability to chroot and/or jail the web server as you suggested. Hmmm, decisions, decisions!! Donnacha Henry Miller wrote: > On 5/5/2005 at 14:25 freebsd.org@donnacha.com wrote: > > >>Jerry, thanks for your advice! >> >> >>>If all your accounts and web pages >>>are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined >>>to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one >>>for home directories and web pages. >> >>In The Complete FreeBSD, Greg Lehey suggests that it's a good idea to >>place web pages in /var, I don't quite grasp why. Do you think it > > would > >>be a better idea to stick with the standard and leave web pages in > > /home? > > If you web pages are all in one location you can chroot and/or jail the > web server, which increases security. > > >>As for databases, I'll have a lot of MySQL DBs and possibly, at a > > later > >>date, Postgresql. I'm hoping to specialize in forum-based web-sites > > and > >>Web apps generally. As I understand it, forum content is actually >>stored in the DB and pulled dynamically via PHP, meaning, I think, > > that > >>the DB of each forum will take up a lot more space that the templated >>PHP pages that make up the "site" part of the equation. I could be >>wrong about that. > > > Well you can place databases anywhere you want. If they are very big > you would want a external RAID to place them on, though that is > overkill for most forums. However make sure you make /var a big > partition if you place them there. You are right that the database > will be far more space than the templates. > > >>What about /tmp? Looking through this list's archives, I read that > > it's > >>considered more secure to place /tmp on a seperate partition from /, >>would it be even more secure to place it on a seperate HDD? How big >>should /tmp be? > > > Not really. The big advantage of separating things is /tmp is written > fairly often, the rest of / is not. By putting /tmp on a different > partition you make it less likely that the / filesystem gets corrupted > if a reboot happens unexpectedly. Not as much of a problem now that > we have softupdates, but even still you can limit the damage from > crashes (including the power going out) by putting / elsewhere. > > Considering your usage, I would either make a big RAID-5 system (you > need at least 3 physical disks of the same size for this), or place > /var on a separate big disk entirely its own. reason: most of your > disk access with be to /var (web pages and database) > > Although in general splitting swap is a good idea, I wouldn't. By > putting swap all on one disk, and the web pages on the other you can > split the load a little (with 2GB of RAM you shouldn't be swapping > much anyway) There might be other ways to split the load. > > This assumes that you won't have many local users, you are not also > running as a fileserver, and your few local users won't have big files > around. If this is not true then you need a different partition > scheme. > > It occurs to me that you are on the wrong track asking here. Ask > people who run a forum about as big as you think yours can get how big > the database is, and how big the templates are. If their database is > 150Gb, then you should dedicate one disk for database (that is > /var/db/postgressql is a separate partition that takes the entire 200Gb > Disk), than start saving for a RAID system to replace that disk because > it will fill up! > > Only you can guess how things will happen on this system, so you have > to decide for yourself how to do thing. > > >>Here's a pretty stupid question I have, apologies for my lack of clue: > > >>do I have to define the size of each partition? Is it difficult to >>change them at a later date? I'll only have command-line access. > > > Yes it is difficult to change partitions latter. you have to backup > everything, change, re-install, then restore. Lots of down time. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 16:15:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C92A16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50402.mail.yahoo.com (web50402.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD1DA43D8A for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:15:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dsobiera@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16516 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2005 16:15:28 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=jx1NBO4j/IwnkXe1jmuSxr54qcP4zCrPM844qZzkl40mCCR0SX03P5yhWUkqr0u/kdGHGph+EZELgAKcnkR63QMG2HhdsP5QO6aW8daAk5nsmWJMkaoI1umxkwNbUjpiprecK/Cj5I5ZiGZ6SG+LNWjEa8qUaG6t4HIrLVWX/kg= ; Message-ID: <20050505161528.16514.qmail@web50402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [149.169.99.83] by web50402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:15:28 PDT Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Damian Sobieralski To: Tillman Hodgson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050505154510.38AC516A4FE@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Kerberos 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:15:32 -0000 > How did you confirm that you were authenticating via Kerberos? ESP? :) You're right, I don't KNOW that. But if I didn't set a password when I created the user, how else would it be authenticating? Here's my /etc/pam.d/sshd file: # auth auth required pam_nologin.so no_warn auth sufficient pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_prompts auth requisite pam_opieaccess.so no_warn allow_local auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass auth required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass # account account required pam_login_access.so account required pam_unix.so # session session required pam_permit.so # password password required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass > Do you have an environment variable like KRB5CCNAME set anywhere? I didn't set one so I don't think so. > Which Kerberos are you talking about? Another good question. Whatever kerberos that cames as the default in FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. I didn't install any ports at first. I'm using whatever came as stock as a pam module in /usr/lib/pam_krb5. klist also seemed installed already without any ports being added. After I wasn't getting any ticket from klist, I installed krb5 from /usr/ports/security/krb5 after doing a cvsup on my ports. Same result. > use and are perhaps running into path issues (running a different > program than you think you're running)? Always possible. As I said, pam_krb5 was already there after my base install. I found it weird that pam_krb5 was already there. Is this normal? All I did to "enable" what I thought/think was kerberos authentication for sshd was to set up the /etc/pam.d/sshd file like I stated above and created a /etc/krb5.conf file. Needless to say, I'm very new to Kerberos and will take any advice happily. - Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 16:34:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0920316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:34:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC0E43D48 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.65.223]) by mta9.adelphia.netESMTP <20050505163442.UKQS8952.mta9.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:34:42 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A072B4FC; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:34:46 -0400 From: Parv To: Marco Beishuizen , FreeBSD questions mailing list Message-ID: <20050505163445.GA985@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Marco Beishuizen , FreeBSD questions mailing list References: <20050505154037.S49572@yokozuna.lan> <200505050916.31297.algould@datawok.com> <20050505171223.X17820@yokozuna.lan> <200505051028.59143.algould@datawok.com> <20050505174836.H17820@yokozuna.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050505174836.H17820@yokozuna.lan> Subject: Re: gnumeric portupgrade fails (libgnomedb) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: f-q List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:34:48 -0000 in message <20050505174836.H17820@yokozuna.lan>, wrote Marco Beishuizen thusly... > > Well I tried to change some options in the makefile but no matter > what I try (--without-gnome-db; --without-gnomedb; > --without-libgnomedb) it wants to compile libgnomedb and it stops > with the same error. UNTESTED. Go to the work directory of gnumeric (default is /usr/ports/math/gnumeric/work); then change to the extracted gnumeric source directory. Somewhere in there you may find a shell script, w/ execute bit set, named something like [Cc]onfigure. Either read that script, or run it w/ "-help" option: "[Cc]onfigure -help", to see the available options. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 16:38:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA21716A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:38:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B01E43DA8 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:38:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DTjN0-00046t-Ma for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 17:38:38 +0100 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:38:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1295756504.20050429155217@mail.ru> <200504291302.17532.ian@codepad.net> <781e2bc00505031559329d3c88@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <781e2bc00505031559329d3c88@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505051738.38154.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: NFS mounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:38:41 -0000 On Tuesday 03 May 2005 23:59, Benjamin Keating wrote: > nfs.myserver.com:/usr/ports =A0 /usr/ports =A0 nfs =A0 rw,-b =A0 0 =A0 0 That would be nfs.myserver.com:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs rw,bg 0 0 or at least that's how mine are. You may want to investigate=20 tcp,intr,nfsv3,-w=3D32768,-r=3D32768 as well. The tcp, and buffer size opti= ons=20 should speed things up a bit. I found most of it under the -o option of the= =20 man page. HTH =2D-=20 /Xian "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reas= on=20 for existing." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 16:52:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E26416A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:52:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF80943D80 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3760592B; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net (pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.215.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE508B; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:52:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.crystalsphere.multiverse To: Sebastian Reichelt In-Reply-To: <20050505022615.2abcf4c6.SebastianR@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20050505094604.E89660@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> References: <20050505022615.2abcf4c6.SebastianR@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation Horror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:52:51 -0000 > I downloaded the three floppy images for 5.3-RELEASE and dd'ed them on the > disks. Then I booted the installation and tried to partition my hard drive. > To my surprise, the partition table shown by the installation was complete > nonsense. I figured it probably had something to do with the fact that my > BIOS doesn't support the disk size. I'm using the OnTrack disk manager to fix > the problem for Windows. So I booted from the disk, and used the OnTrack > feature to boot from a floppy after OnTrack has been loaded. The partition > table was exactly the same junk, though. I also tried different geometries > (reported by LILO, BIOS, FreeBSD installation, etc.), but this didn't change > the view of the partition table either. I was able to install FreeBSD 5.2 on a machine of this generation that didn't support large partitions either, but it wasn't easy. Windows-based workarounds like OnTrack won't work. The trick I used was to make a primary bootable partition on the hard drive that fit within the size limitations that the BIOS could natively understand. (I don't have that number in front of me right now, I'm sorry.) Put the parts of FreeBSD that you need to boot in this partition and boot from it. Once FreeBSD boots, it's able to support large partitions that your old BIOS can't understand, so you can mount the rest of your hard drive, no matter how large it is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 17:11:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769CB16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:11:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50401.mail.yahoo.com (web50401.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F263743D49 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:11:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dsobiera@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 40779 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2005 17:11:31 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=stIHJbIyCKwZOWVf3/EXGdwhEkSo402l65nh+XpVx3l82JeT5nytCT0iw4higrfT4F+NBn8qa1m/5svQJ6NwLD88Nmp7E47mfLwOgTdlnxBtWVN3vHswwyx/4q87qFzpVqV4hczgPo4DI9Rm3mzBSYzJhJUNavnpwJMHG0uGye8= ; Message-ID: <20050505171131.40764.qmail@web50401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [149.169.99.83] by web50401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:11:30 PDT Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:11:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Damian Sobieralski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tillman Hodgson In-Reply-To: <20050505154510.38AC516A4FE@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Kerberos 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:11:34 -0000 Followup up: If AFTER I log in, I issue > kinit and type my password in. Now when I do a klist I get ticket information. Shouldn't the pam module do this aotomatically (call kinit)? If anyone can educate me in kerberos, I'd appreciate it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 17:31:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7C416A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:31:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (static24-72-123-45.regina.accesscomm.ca [24.72.123.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144EA43DB5 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:31:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 14000126; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:31:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:31:11 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050505173111.GR91867@seekingfire.com> References: <20050505154510.38AC516A4FE@hub.freebsd.org> <20050505171131.40764.qmail@web50401.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050505171131.40764.qmail@web50401.mail.yahoo.com> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does X-No-prize-winner: Nathanael User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Kerberos 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:31:16 -0000 On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:11:30AM -0700, Damian Sobieralski wrote: > Followup up: > > If AFTER I log in, I issue > kinit and type my password in. Now when I > do a klist I get ticket information. Shouldn't the pam module do this > aotomatically (call kinit)? PAM does not map well to Kerberos, unfortunately. Generally speaking you want to avoid PAM with Kerberos if you can possibly use native Kerberos :-) I haven't used pam_krb5 in a long time, but perhaps I can help debug things. Can you post your PAM configure for however it is that you're logging in? (SSH, local console, kerberos telnet, etc). The ccache= option to the PAM module looks applicable, for example. -T -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they can make your life miserable by doing nothing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 17:39:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F2216A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:39:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2B443DAB for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8742D12135; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427A59F2.9000609@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:37:54 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Omer Faruk Sen References: <20050505081242.96644.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> In-Reply-To: <20050505081242.96644.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: developer list in FreeBSD source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:39:57 -0000 Omer Faruk Sen wrote: > Hi, > There was a file in FreeBSD source tree that shows who is responsible > for related driver or program. I couldn't remeber it so I decided to > mail it to here. Can someone point me to the right document in /usr/src? > Best Regards.. > There might have been such a thing in the past, but the best (and most reliable) method of determining responsibility is to check with 'cvs log' on the files in question, and find out who's been doing the committing. That's a darn reliable method. > > > ----------------------- > Omer Faruk Sen > http://www.EnderUNIX.ORG > Software Development Team @ Turkey > http://www.Faruk.NET > For Public key: http://www.enderunix.org/ofsen/ofsen.asc > ******************************************************** > > First Turkish FreeBSD book is out! Go check it. > Duydunuz mu! Turkiye'nin ilk FreeBSD kitabi cikti. > http://www.acikakademi.com/freebsd.php > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 17:43:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6947C16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:43:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B6C43D7C for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:43:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j45Hh9if022113 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:43:08 -0800 Message-Id: <20050505174237.M40966@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 67.164.14.6 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: NOCOL users mail list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:43:19 -0000 Hi there, is there a fairly active NOCOL users mail list out there somewhere? Please send along the subscribe details if there is. cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:01:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270B116A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:01:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BCE43D8E for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from naomi.fernandez@sympatico.ca) Received: from elmo ([65.95.55.200]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with SMTP id <20050505180127.SSIM8412.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@elmo> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:01:27 -0400 From: "Naomi Fernandez" To: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:01:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Trouble with XFree86 Configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:01:34 -0000 "Hi! I'm having a devil of a time trying to configure XFree86 Server and Desktop in FreeBSD 5.3. I was running FreeBSD 4.9 just fine complete with Gnome2. Yesterday, I installed (from scratch) FreeBSD 5.3 on the same machine. The installation went fine and the machine booted perfectly. When I "sysinstall" to do a "Post-Installation Configuration", I don't get the option to "Configure the XFree86 Server" or Desktop. So I never get the chance to configure my monitor or video card or choose Gnome2 as my GUI. When I "startx" as root, I get this really clunky lo-res screen with three windows on it. When I exit that and go back to the prompt, I get a message saying "fbdev does not exist". I've reinstalled about half a dozen times and it's always the same. Can you please advise me of why I can't get to the point of configuring my monitor and card and then select Gnome2 as my GUI? I selected “X-user” when I did the install. As I mentioned above, all worked perfectly under FreeBSD 4.9. If there is any another information that I can provide, please let me know. Thanks in advance, Lawrence From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:03:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AFE16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:03:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.anybots.com (w047.z064220186.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.186.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E4A43DBD for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tlb@anybots.com) Received: (qmail 30643 invoked from network); 5 May 2005 18:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.24?) (10.10.10.24) by 10.10.10.20 with SMTP; 5 May 2005 18:03:16 -0000 From: Trevor Blackwell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1115316195.20790.9704.camel@lab> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 11:03:15 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ATA to CF fails to mount root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:03:21 -0000 I'm running FreeBSD on a Lippert Cool EcoRunner board which has a NS Geode processor and some kind of integrated ATA controller from SiS. Trying to use the CF card as the root file system causes it to hang. When I boot the kernel from the CF card and then mount a different disk as the root file system it works fine. I can then mount the CF card manually and do lots of IO to it without trouble. I've tried changing various BIOS settings such as using Normal instead LBA addressing, setting different PIO modes, etc with no change. In every case it can't mount it as root, but can mount it otherwise. I'm confident that the CF has everything it needs in its root file system. I originally had soft updates turned on, but turning it off made no difference. Any ideas? Booting with boot_verbose: ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0x0000 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=50 ata0-master: ATAPI 00 00 ... ad0: <512MB Flash Card/CFBA207B> ATA-0 disk at ata0-master ad0: 488MB (1000944 sectors), 993 C, 16 H, 63 S, 512 B ad0: 1 secs/int, 1 depth queue, BIOSPIO ad0: piomode=4, dmamode=-1, udmamode=-1 cblid=0 ... Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ad0s1: type 0xa5, start 63, end=1000943, size 1000881: OK start_init: trying /sbin/init [HANG. Ctl-Alt-Del does a clean reboot] -- Trevor Blackwell tlb@anybots.com (650) 210-9272 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:09:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48C316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:09:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED2E43D81 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:09:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j45I7sHL014024; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:07:55 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j45Huxxs043352; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:56:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j45HuwXn043351; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:56:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:56:58 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20050505175658.GA43269@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050505081242.96644.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> <427A59F2.9000609@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427A59F2.9000609@chuckr.org> cc: Omer Faruk Sen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: developer list in FreeBSD source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:09:33 -0000 On 2005-05-05 17:37, Chuck Robey wrote: >Omer Faruk Sen wrote: >>There was a file in FreeBSD source tree that shows who is responsible >>for related driver or program. I couldn't remeber it so I decided to >>mail it to here. Can someone point me to the right document in /usr/src? > > There might have been such a thing in the past, but the best (and most > reliable) method of determining responsibility is to check with 'cvs > log' on the files in question, and find out who's been doing the > committing. That's a darn reliable method. There is still /usr/src/MAINTAINERS. I usually search there *and* use a pair of local scripts that consult the cvs logs and print statistics: % orion:/d/src/bin/sh$ logmost | head -5 % Rank Commits Percent Name % ---------------------------------- % 1 516 24.90% peter % 2 232 11.20% tjr % 3 223 10.76% cracauer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948C416A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:10:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AD843D8D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tummytech@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so322751rnf for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GftlUQ3mXj7Azddq6myYd2lN4mgVA02xVReOV7v3akcFTEm59DRyX3WbzqHRLfw65HRcVgvLkX0L3Vwgi4/yyhtWcXw5o4xqQNqWZRWGL60OIQ0Jy5m6hoAuPO3FLNRQOOX6GUUah4Wir57GHW8YNBJop3FJXmKobrOnCCYVdK8= Received: by 10.39.2.63 with SMTP id e63mr667464rni; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.37 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <860807bf05050511103bd6412d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:10:18 -0700 From: Benson Wong To: Odhiambo Washington , FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20050505083227.GA91192@ns2.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> <860807bf0505041646120d4f18@mail.gmail.com> <20050505083227.GA91192@ns2.wananchi.com> Subject: Re: installing big qmail server ... where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benson Wong List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:10:23 -0000 I'm CC this answer back to FBSD-Questions.=20 On 5/5/05, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > * Benson Wong [20050505 02:56]: wrote: >=20 > Hi Ben, >=20 >=20 > > I run a qmail-ldap installation for about 10,000 users. Each has 100MB > > of quota. I use 2 LDAP servers, 2 qmail servers and have all the > > Maildirs stored on a 5.6TB Xserve RAID. >=20 > I would like to ask you if you run your servers on XServe or on FreeBSD. > I'm interested in knowing how you have setup your heterogeneous network > to link FreeBSD to the XServe RAID. On FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE. My FreeBSD (qmail) email servers use NFS. >=20 >=20 > > There are a couple of issues you will run into here. > > > > 1. Mass storage. FreeBSD doesn't support file systems > 2TB, at least > > not that I found decent documentation and support for. >=20 > So how did you go around this limitation? I am buying two Xserves with > XServe RAID and I am positive your experience will help me alot. I've > a great belief that it will.. The 5.6TB XRAID has 2 separate RAID arrays. After RAID-5 overhead it becomes 2.2TB on each array. 2.2TB is 200GB over the max limit, so I had the XRAID slice each array into 2 logical arrays. This gave me 4 x 1.1TB arrays. Each one of those mounted easily in FreeBSD. You may be able use vinum to create them into one large array again, but i didn't bother >=20 >=20 > > 2. Backing up 50,000 Maildirs, where each email is a separate file > > requires something custom. I use Bacula, a network backup tool, and I > > instruct it to do a tar-gzip of each Maildir before backup. This adds > > a bit of overhead, and almost doubles space usage, but it sure beats > > backing up millions of little 4K - 80K files! >=20 > You backup e-mails? That is new to me. How about if the files change as > you run the backup? Oh well. Maildirs don't require file locking. The Maildir may change state but all emails will still be there. Trade off between having OK backups and no backups. FreeBSD's snapshots for large TB volumes isn't stable yet (at least not that I've read) so I don't bother using those. >=20 >=20 > > 3. There is a MAJOR bug with maildirsize, the quota file. These quota > > files go out of sync a lot. From a year of statistics about 0.1% of > > users will likely have out of sync maildirsize files everyday. Who it > > happens to seems to be random. I wrote a custom script that runs every > > 15 minutes to clean up the out of sync maildirsize files. >=20 > This one I am interested in. I experience this alot with Exim. Oh, I use > Exim and not Qmail, but the maildirsize code I believe is from the same > source, no? >=20 I dunno if the code is the same. Good chance if you're seeing maildirsize that are going out of sync for no good reason. >=20 > > Other than those issues my qmail-ldap installation runs super stable. > > On the two mail servers I have serving up IMAP and POP3, their load > > hovers around 0.1 to 0.3 barely anything at all. On my NFS server the > > load is about 0.3... it's barely working too. >=20 > You have separated the servers for IMAP and POP3 or you are > load-balancing? I use DJBDNS and round-robin a domain name with all of my mail servers. It's is very simple to set up and works very well. Load is distributed very evenly. Each mail server provides POP3 and IMAP. Haven't found a need or reason to separate them. Ben.=20 >=20 --=20 blog: http://www.mostlygeek.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:15:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2C416A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:15:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F0B43D66 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ptroot@iaces.com) Received: from [204.147.87.125] (borg.iaces.com [204.147.87.125]) by iaces.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j45IFiJG003641 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:15:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ptroot@iaces.com) Message-ID: <427A62FB.5070502@iaces.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:16:27 -0500 From: "Paul T. Root" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:15:52 -0000 I'm trying to get a HP Vectra up without keyboard or monitor with Serial A as the console. I looked in the Handbook and FAQ, all it talks about is for an install. The worst part is, I have 1 machine running this way (Intel motherboard) and I remember I tested doing that on an identical Vectra. The intel box is running 4.11-Stable (I haven't got around to upgrading yet, weekends are tight). The Vectra is 5.4-Stable (cvsuped yesterday). What I've tried (loader.conf) doesn't seem to work. Thanks, Paul. -- ______ Paul T. Root / _ \ 1977 MGB / /|| \\ ||\/ || _ | || || || \ ||__// \______/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:19:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0471D16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:19:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B820443D8E for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:19:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 3034 invoked from network); 5 May 2005 18:19:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.15.209]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 May 2005 18:19:28 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:19:31 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: Subhro Message-ID: <20050505201931.2e4455c7@localhost> In-Reply-To: <427A3203.7070405@gmail.com> References: <20050505161315.60c175ff@localhost> <427A3203.7070405@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.4-STABLE panic: kernel trap 12 with interrupts diabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:19:46 -0000 Subhro wrote: > On 5/5/2005 19:43, Fabian Keil wrote: > >the day before yesterday I experienced my first > >panic on 5.4-STABLE. Build and cvsup'ed last > >Friday. My system is a ThinkPad R51 > > > >I did nothing spectacular, after boot I: > > > >logged in as user > >cdrecord -scanbus (which didn't work as I hadn't yet set it suid) > >su > >chmod +x for cdrecord and readcd (meant was +g ;-) > >exit > >cdrecord -scanbus (didn't yet work ;-) > >su > >cdrecord -scanbus (did work) > >readcd dev=2,0,0 -factor meshpoints=100 f=./file > >exit > > > >Then I moved the laptop and plugged in the AC/DC adapter. > > > >whoami brought me: > > > >Kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled > >Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > >fault virtual address = 0xa94d06c > >fault code = supervisor read, page not present > >instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc053cbe5 > >stack pointer = 0x10:0xe669f98c > >frame pointer = 0x10:0xe669f990 > >code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > >processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 > >current process = 601 (whoami) > >trap number = 12 > >panic: page fault > > > >I saved the dump manually with savecore and then tried > >to follow: > > > > > >fk@r51 ~ $nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c053cb > >c053cb4c T init_turnstiles > >c053cbc9 t init_turnstile0 > >c053cbd8 t turnstile_setowner > > > >My kernel contains "makeoptions DEBUG=-g", however > >I don't have the file /sys/compile/KERNELCONFIG/kernel.debug > >and thus wasn't able to do > >% gdb -k /sys/compile/KERNELCONFIG/kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.0 It turned out that I just was looking at the wrong places, kernel.debug was found at /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/THINKPAD/kernel.debug. fits better and contains a pointer to kgdb. > >fk@r51 ~ $cat info.0 > >Dump header from device /dev/ad0s3b > > Architecture: i386 > > Architecture Version: 16777216 > > Dump Length: 536215552B (511 MB) > > Blocksize: 512 > > Dumptime: Tue May 3 20:18:11 2005 > > Hostname: r51.local > > Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > > Version String: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #6: Sat Apr 30 14:57:04 CEST 2005 > > fk@r51.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/THINKPAD > > Panic String: page fault > > Dump Parity: 1084811848 > > Bounds: 0 > > Dump Status: good > > > >The kernel was build "the new way". > >I was not able to reproduce the panic. > > > >Is there anything else I can do? > It would be great to have a look at the core. Can you put it up > somewhere on the WEB? Also if you are not running a GENERIC kernel then > let us have a look at the config file. fk@r51 ~ $ls -lh|grep core -rw------- 1 fk wheel 511M May 3 20:38 vmcore.0 -rw------- 1 fk wheel 354M May 5 19:11 vmcore.0.gz I don't have that much web space available. However the following seems to be interesting: fk@r51 ~ $kgdb kernel.debug vmcore.0 [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd". #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:160 160 pcpu.h: No such file or directory. in pcpu.h (kgdb) where #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:160 #1 0xc0519e76 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:410 #2 0xc051a1a7 in panic (fmt=0xc06bafe5 "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:566 #3 0xc0693758 in trap_fatal (frame=0xe669f94c, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:809 #4 0xc0692dca in trap (frame= {tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -429261692, tf_esi = -1043159552, tf_ebp = -429262448, tf_isp = -429262472, tf_ebx = -1043640192, tf_edx = -1043640192, tf_ecx = 177524736, tf_eax = 177524736, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1068250139, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 65539, tf_esp = -1043159552, tf_ss = -429262416}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:247 #5 0xc0681baa in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:140 #6 0x00000018 in ?? () #7 0x00000010 in ?? () #8 0x00000010 in ?? () #9 0xe669fc84 in ?? () #10 0xc1d2a600 in ?? () #11 0xe669f990 in ?? () #12 0xe669f978 in ?? () #13 0xc1cb5080 in ?? () #14 0xc1cb5080 in ?? () #15 0x0a94d000 in ?? () #16 0x0a94d000 in ?? () #17 0x0000000c in ?? () #18 0x00000000 in ?? () #19 0xc053cbe5 in turnstile_setowner (ts=0xc1cb5080, owner=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c:367 #20 0xc053cecd in turnstile_wait (ts=0xc1cb5080, lock=0xc1cbb000, owner=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c:504 #21 0xc050fc57 in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xc1cbb000, td=0xc1d2a600, opts=0, file=0x0, line=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:552 #22 0xc062fae6 in ufsdirhash_lookup (ip=0xc1d10460, name=0xc1ce7809 "nss_compat.so.1", namelen=15, offp=0x0, bpp=0x0, prevoffp=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:349 #23 0xc0632060 in ufs_lookup (ap=0xe669fb34) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_lookup.c:214 #24 0xc0639ead in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2828 #25 0xc056da78 in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=0x0) at vnode_if.h:82 #26 0xc0639ead in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2828 #27 0xc05739f3 in lookup (ndp=0xe669fc5c) at vnode_if.h:52 #28 0xc05733fb in namei (ndp=0xe669fc5c) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c:182 #29 0xc0582316 in kern_access (td=0xc1d2a600, path=0x0, pathseg=UIO_USERSPACE, flags=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:1819 #30 0xc05822b2 in access (td=0x0, uap=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:1797 #31 0xc0693ac4 in syscall (frame= {tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = -1077942816, tf_esi = 671563776, tf_ebp = -1077942888, tf_isp = -429261468, tf_ebx = 671529272, tf_edx = -1077942576, tf_ecx = 671563801, tf_eax = 33, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 671436903, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -1077942916, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1001 #32 0xc0681bff in Xint0x80_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:201 #33 0x0000002f in ?? () #34 0x0000002f in ?? () #35 0x0000002f in ?? () #36 0xbfbfe5e0 in ?? () #37 0x28074000 in ?? () #38 0xbfbfe598 in ?? () #39 0xe669fd64 in ?? () #40 0x2806b938 in ?? () #41 0xbfbfe6d0 in ?? () ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #42 0x28074019 in ?? () #43 0x00000021 in ?? () #44 0x0000000c in ?? () #45 0x00000002 in ?? () #46 0x28055067 in ?? () #47 0x0000001f in ?? () #48 0x00000246 in ?? () #49 0xbfbfe57c in ?? () #50 0x0000002f in ?? () #51 0x00000000 in ?? () #52 0x00000000 in ?? () #53 0x00000000 in ?? () #54 0x00000000 in ?? () #55 0x1f3f1000 in ?? () #56 0xc1f06000 in ?? () #57 0xc1d2a600 in ?? () #58 0xe669f84c in ?? () #59 0xe669f834 in ?? () #60 0xc1984c00 in ?? () #61 0xc052c3c2 in sched_switch (td=0x28074000, newtd=0x2806b938, flags=Cannot access memory at address 0xbfbfe5a8 ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:881 Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) (kgdb) quit My kernel configuration is: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident THINKPAD makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client #options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server #options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=1000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. options KDB # Enable kernel debugger support. #options DDB # Support DDB. #options GDB # Support remote GDB. options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN # Don't run witness on spinlocks # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) device atapicam # Needed for cdrtools # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer #device plip # TCP/IP over parallel #device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support #device sl # Kernel SLIP #device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ehci # usb2 'hi=speed' support #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic #device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player #device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet #device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet #device cue # CATC USB Ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet #device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) Regards Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:21:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BC716A4F8 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:21:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F0043D2D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:21:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so392195rng for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=QBoXW0I/a+XeNOuIBjshx+K87oChcDu11RH2416Vv0GuEzEk61YVX2FR0i0h6lb3yavSHdbdkM28PCb1I5ZpjYFGV4/t31UhoQKbX3ThsS7gi4lV7O71DNSlxVB2G/MG7RMaAsaBOoSj9E4XpWiqBOowTcmzvDLguxAPlsAYrXQ= Received: by 10.38.76.11 with SMTP id y11mr642804rna; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.163.33? ([59.93.163.33]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 74sm1237934rnb.2005.05.05.11.21.23; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427A6413.7020506@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 23:51:07 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Salvatti?= References: <627d8c310505050513719aa980@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <627d8c310505050513719aa980@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050807030808060202050607" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: compiler is used in FreeBSD's kernel compiling process. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:21:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050807030808060202050607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/5/2005 17:43, Jo=E3o Salvatti wrote: >Hi all,=20 > >I'd like to know which compiler is used in FreeBSD's kernel compiling=20 >process. > >Thanks. > > =20 > Try gcc -v Regards S. --=20 --------------050807030808060202050607-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:24:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD9416A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:24:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F2843D8E for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:24:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so392636rng for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:24:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=d7IVIBnp44nTs9/utUK/QBEoGvX/Y9ncK8SrnnezaBH3yr6OljBHo1NhwOGeh+IL6o19Xz4MJKfd33NBG0aHwgizV49KIiUTMFdhRE9mc0/oq7iBG5VhxXtvlVRFzrwqw8OvaV+Myu9cs4bKRB9uRnlrcQfc4JroyUmJ6iP039U= Received: by 10.38.74.10 with SMTP id w10mr413197rna; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.163.33? ([59.93.163.33]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 79sm1233287rna.2005.05.05.11.24.29; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427A64CD.7020301@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 23:54:13 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jacob S References: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090609000807080709040607" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Running out of memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:24:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090609000807080709040607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/5/2005 20:29, Jacob S wrote: >I've got a server that keeps running out of memory and crashing. It has >1GB of swap and 1GB of ram. I originally made the swap the same size as >the ram, as my previous experience with *nix machines was that when swap >is double the size of ram, the computer is almost totally unuseable for >at least 30 minutes whenever the computer needs to clean out swap. > >Has anyone else seen this problem, or is it safe for me to add another >GB of swap? > >Also, I made the mistake of partitioning all the space on the hard >drive, with only 1GB set aside for swap. How big of a performance hit >would it be to use a swap file instead of a swap partition? Is there an >easy (and safe!) way to resize partitions so that I could add in a >second swap partition? > >TIA, >Jacob >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > My box has 2GB of physical RAM and 4 GB of swap spread across 3 SATA drives. I havent seen any lockups. Regards S. -- --------------090609000807080709040607-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:30:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCD316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:30:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B255043DAB for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wc_fbsd@xxiii.com) Received: from PC02.xxiii.com (lan23.xxiii.com [208.62.177.50]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j45IUHva001391; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:30:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wc_fbsd@xxiii.com) Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050505142858.0288b298@mailsvr.xxiii.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:30:17 -0400 To: "Paul T. Root" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: WMC In-Reply-To: <427A62FB.5070502@iaces.com> References: <427A62FB.5070502@iaces.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:30:24 -0000 At 02:16 PM 5/5/2005, Paul T. Root wrote: >trying to get a HP Vectra up without keyboard or monitor with Serial A as >the console. >What I've tried (loader.conf) doesn't seem to work. Shot in the dark, as I've never messed with serial much. But I think you have to enable it in /etc/ttys for it to work post-install. -Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:32:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210FA16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:32:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1264543D41 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 May 2005 18:32:25 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 05 May 2005 20:32:25 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:32:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505051256.j45Cu2rM009492@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <200505051653.00301@harrymail> <427A3F28.4040106@donnacha.com> In-Reply-To: <427A3F28.4040106@donnacha.com> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1645329.Miyol4iLS8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505052032.24543@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd.org@donnacha.com Subject: Re: How should I divvy up my HDDs? Suggestions Please. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:32:32 -0000 --nextPart1645329.Miyol4iLS8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 17:43 schrieb freebsd.org@donnacha.com: > Hi Harald, thanks. > > GPT sounds great but the quick search I did turned up a lot of > references to 64-bit chips i.e. FreeBSD.org said "The GPT partitioning > scheme was introduced with the ia64 architecture as an MBR replacement". > > Can GPT be also be used on 32-bit chips? My server has a single P4 2.8 > 533FSB. Yes, you cannot boot from GPT disks without IA64 (EFI), so you have to use= =20 MBR/bsdlabel for the first disk on x86 (which includes AMD64 and EMT-64)=20 systems and the root mountpoint must be a bsdlabel, but you can also use=20 GPT additionally on the first disk by creating a GPT inside a slice. On non-booting disks you don't need any MBR etc., just GPT works fine on=20 any architecture FreeBSD supports > Also, is it easy to implement and commonly know about? I ask because I > won't be the one doing the initial installation. It's rarely known, but no problem to "implement" since FreeBSD has GPT=20 support in the generic kernel. Sysinstall can't handle GPT, so you should=20 be quiet familar with FreeBSD to make the boot-disk GPT extended. To=20 create GPT on the second disk is quiet easy (gpt create ad2) and the man=20 page of the gpt (8) tool describes the easy steps to add partitions. Then=20 you need to newfs them and add them to /etc/fstab, just like with=20 slice/labels, but you have to do it manually, like mentioned sysinstall=20 can't manage GPT. =2DHarry > > Thanks, > > Donnacha > > Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 14:56 schrieb Jerry McAllister: > >>>Hello, I'm new to FreeBSD and this list, my name is Donnacha, I'm an > >>>Irishman living in Edinburgh, Scotland. > >>> > >>>I have read The Complete FreeBSD's section on disk partioning but > >>>would very much appreciate some advice on how to divide up the 2 HDDs > >>>I'm getting on my new server. > >>> > >>>The server is located in a facility in the US and will be used as a > >>>Web and email server. It has an 80GB HDD and a 200GB HDD, both IDE > >>>but I'm asking for them to be placed on seperate buses. > >>> > >>>I was thinking of using the 80GB as the primary and placing / on it, > >>>while putting /var, /usr and /home on the 200GB. > >>> > >>>I'll have 2GB of RAM, so, I was thinking about putting 2GB of swap on > >>>each HDD. > >>> > >>>How does that sound. I would be very grateful for any advice you can > >>>give me before I relay my instructions to the guys doing the > >>>installation. > >> > >>It depends a lot on what you leave in /usr and /var and /home. > >>It kind of looks like you will leave the 80GB drive mostly empty > >>the way you are doing things. If all your accounts and web pages > >>are really in /home and you have no databases, I would be inclined > >>to put both /usr and /var in the 80GB drive and leave the other one > >>for home directories and web pages. Since the default place for > >>databases is in /var that can make a big difference on where you put > >>it or if you take the db directory out of /var and put it somewhere > >>else, etc. > >> > >>Putting some of your swap on each drive as you have indicated > >>is a good idea. > > > > Ack! I just wanted to point you to GPT. I always use my second drive > > without MBR/slices/labels, just GPT. You can create up to 128 > > Pratitions and together with either growfs ( if you leave unassigned > > space between the partitions) or gconcat I have a very flexible > > storage solution (of course gvinum is another option). > > It's also possible to create a GPT inside a slice (so even on the > > first HD), just / must be on a bsdlabel. > > I use such a configuration for jails or virtual hosts, where every > > jail or virthos has its own mountpoint. Initially with not too much > > space (1G), increased on demand. > > > > -Harry > > > >>////jerry > >> > >>>Thanks and I look forward to participating in this community, > >>> > >>>Donnacha > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1645329.Miyol4iLS8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCema4Bylq0S4AzzwRAll2AJ4+y4U6DVDgi2Z3AyP0pkcevL9lTACfcDNM 7xe67EjBuXfWeAkdVkWtq6U= =gkHV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1645329.Miyol4iLS8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:33:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BB616A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:33:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A9143D58 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:33:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DTl9c-0002iw-Bo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:32:56 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:33:04 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505051333.05098.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc93df99fac2d6d4c8c548d6c95397d186350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: Re: Running out of memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:33:02 -0000 On Thursday 05 May 2005 09:59 am, Jacob S wrote: > I've got a server that keeps running out of memory and crashing. It > has 1GB of swap and 1GB of ram. I originally made the swap the same > size as the ram, as my previous experience with *nix machines was > that when swap is double the size of ram, the computer is almost > totally unuseable for at least 30 minutes whenever the computer needs > to clean out swap. > > Has anyone else seen this problem, or is it safe for me to add > another GB of swap? > > Also, I made the mistake of partitioning all the space on the hard > drive, with only 1GB set aside for swap. How big of a performance hit > would it be to use a swap file instead of a swap partition? Is there > an easy (and safe!) way to resize partitions so that I could add in a > second swap partition? > > TIA, > Jacob What is it that you're doing that would use up so much RAM and swap? Was the high swap usage expected? Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:57:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2441216A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:57:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0F343D46 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:57:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xiris.cityofpaloalto.org ([172.17.1.15]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 5 May 2005 11:57:39 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:57:37 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problem Help! Thread-Index: AcUv6Y4BP92+O5CbQIignvMfscCr3whuhfGg From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: "Peter Risdon" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2005 18:57:39.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F25C950:01C551A4] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Pico Editor for FreeBSD5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:57:45 -0000 Hi Peter, Let me ask you a question, since the last time you gave me an answer = that was to the point. Is there a version of Pico editor for Free BSD = 5.3, I have tried installing pine 4.63 the latest, I get this error, = "Problems building c-client ". Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks, VJ =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:05:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9424116A4CF for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:05:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jeremino.homeunix.net (jeremino.xs4all.nl [80.126.224.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E9043DAE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:05:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trap1@jeremino.homeunix.net) Received: from jeremina.homeunix.net ([10.0.0.5]) by jeremino.homeunix.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DTlfN-0000EA-UP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 21:05:46 +0200 Message-Id: <2576579.Tu3d2pHlRQ@not_a_message_id> From: Kees Plonsz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:54:33 +0200 References: Lines: 39 Organization: Chaos User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Subject: Re: serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:05:53 -0000 Paul T. Root wrote on Thursday 05 May 2005 20:16: > I'm trying to get a HP Vectra up without keyboard > or monitor with Serial A as the console. > > I looked in the Handbook and FAQ, all it talks about > is for an install. > > The worst part is, I have 1 machine running this way > (Intel motherboard) and I remember I tested doing that > on an identical Vectra. > > The intel box is running 4.11-Stable (I haven't got around > to upgrading yet, weekends are tight). The Vectra is 5.4-Stable > (cvsuped yesterday). > > What I've tried (loader.conf) doesn't seem to work. > > Thanks, > Paul. > I have get a HP-vectra too, running as mail-server with no keyboard attached. It's all in the handbook: 1. Connect the serial port. The serial console will be on COM1. 2. echo -h > /boot.config to enable the serial console for the boot loader and kernel. ( I use "-P" so you can switch to console by plugging the keyboard in ) 3. Edit /etc/ttys and change off to on for the ttyd0 entry. This enables a login prompt on the serial console, which mirrors how video consoles are typically setup. 4. shutdown -r now will reboot the system with the serial console. -- Key-ID = A6581435 E-mail: replace trap1 with kees From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:08:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E734416A4D0 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:08:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9010343D55 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:08:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvsotelo@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so331269rnf for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=JpVwNbkYd5I9akPR/qhCnCyzcjeVUind6HCjO2z7j77LDY0lQL6Qhso12AtRKwS7lAq1qPMXvfDwQVmBi9GC6yJUauymOhzw6vjufQL7xfIizPFQPAs30xOIvXs6vnZCDEwUo2RS/c/RdsoHC+0blv5SOupL8cctGmCEgJDoLtE= Received: by 10.38.79.2 with SMTP id c2mr674236rnb; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bifrost.yi.org ([81.9.210.41]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 3sm274501rnr.2005.05.05.12.08.30; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:08:28 +0200 From: David Sotelo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050505190828.GA10031@bifrost.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050505081242.96644.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050505081242.96644.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: developer list in FreeBSD source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:08:39 -0000 On Thu, 05/May/2005 11:12 (+0300), Omer Faruk Sen wrote: > Hi, > > There was a file in FreeBSD source tree that shows who is responsible for > related driver or program. I couldn't remeber it so I decided to mail it to > here. Can someone point me to the right document in /usr/src? > > Best Regards.. I think you're referring to /usr/src/MAINTAINERS Greetings, David. -- David Sotelo (aktinos) 24 hours in a day... 24 beers in a case... coincidence? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:15:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6F016A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:15:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.eyfa.org (eyfa.demon.nl [212.238.155.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7C143D7B for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:15:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from mail.eyfa.org (unknown [192.168.1.47]) by mail.eyfa.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A8C3D1E96; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.eyfa.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id 598F53D1D69; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 82.197.199.160 (SquirrelMail authenticated user albi) by mail.eyfa.org with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <33666.82.197.199.160.1115320546.squirrel@mail.eyfa.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:15:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "albi" To: "Dixit, Viraj" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pico Editor for FreeBSD5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:15:50 -0000 > Let me ask you a question, since the last time you gave me an answer that > was to the point. Is there a version of Pico editor for Free BSD 5.3, I > have tried installing pine 4.63 the latest, I get this error, "Problems > building c-client ". Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks, if you only need pico, then i'd install nano instead it's a pico-alternative with a "less restricted" license if you really need pine, i would check whether your ports-collection is completely in sync, and perform a portsclean -C before trying to install again From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:26:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2524416A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:26:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE8643DBA for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:26:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C38892B; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from billdog.local.linnet.org (dsl-212-74-113-65.access.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.113.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446CB8D; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brian by billdog.local.linnet.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DTm1I-0000uL-NN; Thu, 05 May 2005 20:28:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:28:24 +0100 From: Brian Candler To: John Oxley Message-ID: <20050505192824.GB3389@uk.tiscali.com> References: <20050505113900.GB10681@yoafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050505113900.GB10681@yoafrica.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: exim-users@exim.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [exim] TCP Header Rewrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:26:39 -0000 On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 01:39:00PM +0200, John Oxley wrote: > local > ^ > I > I > client --> smarthost --> router --> shaper --> international > > The smarthost is a FreeBSD-5.3-STABLE system running exim 4.50 built from the > exim-mysql port. The router is transparent. > > This setup works well as is, but the problem is that the shaper thinks that the > traffic has come from the smarthost itself, and not the client, and thus the > client isn't being bandwidth limited for international mail. Yep. That's the thing about having a smarthost; your mail is aggregated with everyone else's. The first solution I can see, which does not scale, is to give everyone their own smarthost (or virtual smarthost), with its own IP address. You can do this with exim: 1. The trivial way is to set up N exim daemons, all bound to N different interfaces, and with slightly different configs (ACLs which permit only client X to relay through virtual smarthost X) 2. Being a bit cleverer, you can have a single exim configuration which listens on multiple IP addresses (which will happen anyway if your box has multiple interfaces), and then chooses which interface to bind to for outgoing connections based on which IP address the message arrived on. It sounds like (2) is closest to what you propose. You might even get away with something as simple as this: [under 'begin transports'] remote_smtp: driver = smtp interface = $interface_address Now, if you set up an Exim box with (say) 10 different IP aliases, try connecting to each in turn and relaying a message through it. If my guess is right, the relayed message will originate from the same interface as it came in on. If so, all you need to do is to modify your ACL so that each client can only relay via their own virtual smarthost, e.g. by making relay_from_hosts a lookup based on $interface_address (if each client comes from a different IP range). Alternatively, you could make them all use SMTP AUTH, and then lookup their authenticated identity to find the interface address for outgoing SMTP connections. Things may break down if Exim has multiple messages queued to the same remote host, and you don't want messages sent by one client to be relayed down a TCP/IP connection belonging to another client (at their expense). So you may need to set connection_max_messages = 1 to prevent that. Now, you're still stuck with needing N IP addresses for N customers. In theory you might be able to improve on that by using different ranges of source ports for different customers; e.g. customer 1's mail can originate from ports 1024-1039; customer 2's mail can originate from posts 1040-1055; customer 3 is ports 1056-1081; and so on. That would be really messy to implement, since Exim (sensibly) doesn't allow you to choose which port to bind to for an outgoing connection, and it still doesn't scale (allowing 16 ports per customer you'd be limited to about 4000 customers) The fundamental problem is how your shaper can associate a particular traffic stream with a particular customer. If the shaper had the ability to act as a SOCKS proxy, then perhaps Exim could use it to open outbound connections, and the shaper could use the proxy authenticated ID to associate the stream with the customer. I don't know of any such shaper, but maybe they do exist. You'd still need to modify Exim to be able to use a SOCKS proxy for outbound SMTP connections (which is perhaps a useful feature to have in the SMTP driver, although not that useful if nobody has asked for it before :-) HTH, Brian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:28:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2F816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:28:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C2E43D76 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:28:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j45JRuK4084785; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:27:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "Dixit, Viraj" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:27:55 +0100 Message-Id: <1115321275.43252.1.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pico Editor for FreeBSD5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:28:09 -0000 On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 11:57 -0700, Dixit, Viraj wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Let me ask you a question, since the last time you gave me an answer that was to the point. Is there a version of Pico editor for Free BSD 5.3, I have tried installing pine 4.63 the latest, I get this error, "Problems building c-client ". Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks, > VJ Hi, I don't have any experience of using it myself, but it seems to be in the ports: peter@lorna$ uname -a FreeBSD lorna.circlesquared.com 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 11 10:19:41 GMT 2005 peter@lorna.circlesquared.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LORNA i386 peter@lorna$ less /usr/ports/editors/pico/pkg-descr PICO is a very simple and easy-to-use text editor offering paragraph justification, cut/paste, and a spelling checker. WWW: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ /usr/ports/editors/pico/pkg-descr (END) Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:36:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1BE16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:36:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70B043D60 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:36:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maarten@sandersatkins.nl) Received: from maartens.sandersatkins.nl (a80-127-55-226.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.127.55.226]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45JaopM027575 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:36:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from maarten@sandersatkins.nl) From: Maarten Sanders To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:36:50 +0200 Message-Id: <1115321810.714.10.camel@maarten.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: mplayer, oss and /dev/dspX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:36:57 -0000 Hi, I am using OSS. When I start "mplayer -ao oss -channels 6" I get nice surround sound. I have also installed OSS Virtual Mixers. Strange enough I do not manage to get mplayer to use other dsp devices e.g. "% gmplayer -ao oss:/dev/dsp5 -channels 6" and xmms at /dev/dsp7 give a conflict when using simultanously: %xmms ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp7): Device busy. #cat /dev/sndstat shows: OSS/FreeBSD 3.99.2c (C) 4Front Technologies 1996-2004 License serial number: E00000008 **** UNREGISTERED VERSION **** Drivers: ALL License will expire after: 06/2005 *** Unregistered version *** Build: 200504131459 Kernel: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #7: Mon May 2 22:31:25 CEST 2005 maarten@maarten.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MAARTEN Card config: VIA 8233 AC97 audio controller at 0xb000 irq 22 OSS Virtual Mixer Pro Audio devices: 0: VT8237 (DUPLEX,GRC3) 1: VT8237 (shadow) (DUPLEX,GRC3) 2: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #0 (GRC3) 3: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #1 (GRC3) 4: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #2 (GRC3) 5: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #3 (GRC3) 6: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #4 (GRC3) 7: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #5 (GRC3) 8: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #6 (GRC3) 9: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #7 (GRC3) Synth devices: 0: OSS Virtual Synth v2.5 Midi devices: Mixers: 0: VT8237 (ALC655) 1: Virtual Mixer History: dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 1021 cmd 'mplayer' OUT and when I run xmms alone at /dev/dsp7 the history shows: dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 1021 cmd 'mplayer' OUT dsp7: pid 1028 cmd 'xmms' OUT I can also use the device simultanously (so I hear two sound at the same time, e.g. xmms and ossplay): dsp4: pid 1054 cmd 'ossplay' OUT dsp7: pid 1047 cmd 'xmms' OUT dsp4: pid 1054 cmd 'ossplay' OUT So I know I the mixers work but how I can force mplayer to use /dev/dspX instead of /dev/dsp that blocks the mixers? Maarten From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:37:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1C916A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:37:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1487043D76 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:37:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maarfree@xs4all.nl) Received: from maartens.sandersatkins.nl (a80-127-55-226.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.127.55.226]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45JbQt8076210 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:37:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from maarfree@xs4all.nl) From: maarfree To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:37:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1115321846.714.12.camel@maarten.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: mplayer, oss and /dev/dspX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:37:33 -0000 Hi, I am using OSS. When I start "mplayer -ao oss -channels 6" I get nice surround sound. I have also installed OSS Virtual Mixers. Strange enough I do not manage to get mplayer to use other dsp devices e.g. "% gmplayer -ao oss:/dev/dsp5 -channels 6" and xmms at /dev/dsp7 give a conflict when using simultanously: %xmms ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp7): Device busy. #cat /dev/sndstat shows: OSS/FreeBSD 3.99.2c (C) 4Front Technologies 1996-2004 License serial number: E00000008 **** UNREGISTERED VERSION **** Drivers: ALL License will expire after: 06/2005 *** Unregistered version *** Build: 200504131459 Kernel: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #7: Mon May 2 22:31:25 CEST 2005 maarten@maarten.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MAARTEN Card config: VIA 8233 AC97 audio controller at 0xb000 irq 22 OSS Virtual Mixer Pro Audio devices: 0: VT8237 (DUPLEX,GRC3) 1: VT8237 (shadow) (DUPLEX,GRC3) 2: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #0 (GRC3) 3: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #1 (GRC3) 4: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #2 (GRC3) 5: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #3 (GRC3) 6: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #4 (GRC3) 7: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #5 (GRC3) 8: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #6 (GRC3) 9: OSS Virtual Mixer v2.5 Playback CH #7 (GRC3) Synth devices: 0: OSS Virtual Synth v2.5 Midi devices: Mixers: 0: VT8237 (ALC655) 1: Virtual Mixer History: dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 1021 cmd 'mplayer' OUT and when I run xmms alone at /dev/dsp7 the history shows: dsp0: pid 915 cmd 'firefox-bin' IN OUT dsp0: pid 1021 cmd 'mplayer' OUT dsp7: pid 1028 cmd 'xmms' OUT I can also use the device simultanously (so I hear two sound at the same time, e.g. xmms and ossplay): dsp4: pid 1054 cmd 'ossplay' OUT dsp7: pid 1047 cmd 'xmms' OUT dsp4: pid 1054 cmd 'ossplay' OUT So I know I the mixers work but how I can force mplayer to use /dev/dspX instead of /dev/dsp that blocks the mixers? Maarten From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:47:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0898A16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:47:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDE743D7D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:47:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j45Jm3b63452; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:48:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sebastian Reichelt" , Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:47:33 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050505155602.556d2a3c.SebastianR@gmx.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: FreeBSD Installation Horror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:47:52 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sebastian > Reichelt > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:56 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation Horror > > > Now I got the CD from someone else, and finally the installation went > well. It would still have been nice if all the things I described had > just worked. I was able to install Debian without any problems, even > though I didn't have any Unix experience at all. Compared to that, the > FreeBSD installation should have been a piece of cake for me now. If I > have to spend several days on it, I think a normal computer would give > up without getting very far. > FreeBSD isn't written for normal computer users. It's not deliberately written to be difficult, but it simply is difficult for normal users, in the same way that a Formula 1 race car would be rather difficult for your mother to drive, I'd wager. If you put the effort and time into it you will learn a lot and get many benefits. However most normal computer users don't want to put a lot of time into a computer, they just want it to "work" meaning work in whatever definition of work that they have for a computer. Many of the Linux distributions have chosen to make a special effort to cater to these people, and that is fine for them. FreeBSD has chosen not to make a special effort to cater to this group, and that is fine too. You as a user need to choose which approach you want to take and use the appropriate operating system for that approach. > Anyway, trying to establish a PPP connection still crashes the entire > system. Actually, it's probably the serial port driver: It > also crashes > when I just do: > echo "Hello" >/dev/cuaa0 What is your dmesg output? The above should not crash the computer. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:52:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7013A16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:52:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3364E43D86 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7ABF95152F; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:52:31 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Dixit, Viraj" Message-ID: <20050505195231.GA85210@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pico editor for 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:52:32 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 08:47:50AM -0700, Dixit, Viraj wrote: >=20 > I am installing Pico on BSD 5.3, the installation for Pico goes up to ver= . 4. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ I don't understand what mean by the above, and what you think the problem might be. Kris --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCenl/Wry0BWjoQKURAs3VAKDs+Nx3jvIjPuwU2JcEha5myxhKIACgp4Se rl4u2352prDtrr9A3929dio= =66fa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:53:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8248816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:53:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA10B43DA0 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:53:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j45Js8b63494 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:53:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <995071073.20050505131333@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:53:39 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:14 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Clock running fast > > > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > > Anthony, you really need to look in the code sometime: > > It takes a very long time to find relevant sections of code, and unless > the author was very conscientious, there are usually few or no > explanatory comments, anyway. > find /usr/src/sys -print |grep "whateveryourlookingfor" can help. > > /usr/src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_timer.c > > Thanks. > > > * If all tests of the counter succeed, use the ACPI-fast method. If > > * at least one failed, default to using the safe routine, which reads > > * the timer multiple times to get a consistent value before > returning. > > Whatever that means. > TSC, dummy, or i8254, probably depending on the results of other tests. > > /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/clock.c > > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/tsc.c > > Thanks > > > /* > > * We can not use the TSC if we support APM. Precise timekeeping > > * on an APM'ed machine is at best a fools pursuit, since > > * any and all of the time spent in various SMM code can't > > * be reliably accounted for. Reading the RTC is your only > > * source of reliable time info. The i8254 looses too of course > > * but we need to have some kind of time... > > * We don't know at this point whether APM is going to be used > > * or not, nor when it might be activated. Play it safe. > > */ > > Hmm. I think APM is turned off on my machine, at least that's what > FreeBSD says. The manual for the MB doesn't say anything > about SMI use. > I don't like the idea of a motherboard stealing cycles from my machine; > it sounds way too much like a virus, and a virus built into > the hardware > is the worst nightmare. > It is probably a tossup between the i8254 driver taking cycles to run and an internal kernel counter based off the CPU clock taking cycles to run. Ted > -- > Anthony > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:55:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3356E16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:55:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E3D43D80 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:55:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03D415152F; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:55:56 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jacob S Message-ID: <20050505195556.GB85210@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Running out of memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:55:58 -0000 --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 09:59:27AM -0500, Jacob S wrote: > I've got a server that keeps running out of memory and crashing. It has > 1GB of swap and 1GB of ram. I originally made the swap the same size as > the ram, as my previous experience with *nix machines was that when swap > is double the size of ram, the computer is almost totally unuseable for > at least 30 minutes whenever the computer needs to clean out swap.=20 FreeBSD doesn't ever "clean out swap", so I have no idea what you mean by this. > Also, I made the mistake of partitioning all the space on the hard > drive, with only 1GB set aside for swap. How big of a performance hit > would it be to use a swap file instead of a swap partition? There is a performance hit, but you have to remember that if your machine is swapping heavily *at all* it means you're overloading it and performance will be in the toilet. Kris --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCenpMWry0BWjoQKURAnR6AKCRvqCiiBB6KJMmye5UeR5wOVFQ2wCfUJhP fcXtS4Rj0rxkEuRAVJXe5ko= =dM77 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 20:22:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E0E16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:22:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2544D43D5C for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:22:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j45KLK9U076710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:21:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from localhost (jhary@localhost) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id j45KLJgA076707 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:21:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:21:19 +0100 (BST) From: Vince Hoffman To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <2b5f066d050505072671fff21b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050505211837.A76016@unsane.co.uk> References: <2b5f066d050505072671fff21b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: netgraph & netflow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:22:30 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2005, Brian McCann wrote: > Hi all. I'm trying to get ng_netflow to work, and I'm having a heck > of a time doing so. So if anyone can shed some light on my problem, > please do so. I've tried multiple configurations, and can't get it to > work right. I can only get it to see traffic in one direction (for > example, flows from other PCs to the server. Flows starting from the > server started by something like fetch or ssh don't show up as > sourcing from the server). Here is the config that I thought would do > that, but it's not. > > mkpeer fxp1: tee lower right > connect fxp1: fxp1:lower upper left > mkpeer fxp1:lower netflow left2right iface0 > name fxp1:lower.left2right fxp1_netflow > msg fxp1_netflow: setifindex { iface=0 index=5 } > mkpeer fxp1_netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp > msg fxp1_netflow:export connect inet/127.0.0.1:9800 > > Using this, when I run flowctl, it shows the source interface as ppp0 > and sometimes sl0, which isn't even connected, and a dest interface of > fxp1. If I switch all the "left2right"s with "right2left"s, I get > only flows going to the server...so after reading how the tee in > netgraph works, I assumed if I switched it, it would show the other > direction. > > Any thoughts, suggestions? > Thanks, > --Brian I'm afraid all i can offer is a "me too" I was experienceing the same and eventualy gave up and switched to softflowd which seems to be working fine so far. I'd be interested to know if you get it working though. Vince > > -- > _-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ > Brian McCann > Systems & Network Administrator, K12USA > > "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of > people waiting to abuse me." > -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 20:32:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCB816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:32:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A2643D31 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])87A631800285 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:32:23 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 5 May 2005 20:32:23 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 70B494BEAD; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:32:23 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:23 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:23 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050505203223.70B494BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: System clean-up tool / technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:32:29 -0000 Hey. I am a very meticulous person. I try to keep my systems as clean as possible. I was wondering that others like me out there do to keep their systems clean for stale files and files with no reference to either the system, its ports and its users. I understand that running make world's is one reason to a messy system, among others such as plain binary carelessness? So, does anyone have an application, a script or some kind of tricky command to clean their system? All I know is to: # rm -rf /usr/obj/* Thanks! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 20:42:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98B616A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:42:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aveiro.procergs.com.br (aveiro.procergs.com.br [200.198.128.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD8E43D6D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:42:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from regi@via-rs.net) Received: from gorila (200.175.74.77.adsl.gvt.net.br [200.175.74.77]) by aveiro.procergs.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6343651E97EF; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:41:57 -0300 (BRST) Message-ID: <000801c551b2$e0833190$2201a8c0@gorila> From: "Reginaldo Tavares" To: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:41:54 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: regi Subject: NFS help config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:42:02 -0000 Hello ! I=B4ve been trying to start a NFS server and a client. Both PC machines are 5.2.1 FreeBSD. I decided to follow the on line handbook instructions, but I can=B4t get = the result. The system gave me the message: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC Timed out after I trying to mount a filesystem in my client machine. What could I do ?? Thanks a lot. Regi =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 20:51:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1113116A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:51:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zhonka1.zhonka.net (zhonka1.zhonka.net [66.228.195.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72AF43D8A for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:51:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([66.228.196.74]) by zhonka1.zhonka.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58414U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:51:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C8C5891; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.pjkh.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13625-10; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 061235890; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23BD5823; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz In-Reply-To: <20050505203223.70B494BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050505134738.G14827@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <20050505203223.70B494BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pjkh.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System clean-up tool / technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:51:08 -0000 > Hey. > > I am a very meticulous person. > I try to keep my systems as clean as possible. > > I was wondering that others like me out there do to keep their > systems clean for stale files and files with no reference to > either the system, its ports and its users. The portupgrade port will install portsclean which can clean up working directories and remove distfiles that aren't referenced by any installed port. There's another port* command I can't recall the name of that will list ports that are not required by any other port which you can then decide if you want to remove. Might be an option to pkg_info, I really don't remember. -philip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 21:08:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5A716A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:08:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A5E43D88 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:08:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-int.prodigy.net [207.115.5.65])j45L4EK0008956 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:04:14 -0400 X-ORBL: [64.108.40.225] Received: from jacob.6texans.net (adsl-64-108-40-225.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net [64.108.40.225])j45L83qT127456 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:08:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:08:00 -0500 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050505160800.23ad3ac4@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <200505051333.05098.algould@datawok.com> References: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> <200505051333.05098.algould@datawok.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running out of memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:08:04 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:33:04 -0500 "Andrew L. Gould" wrote: > On Thursday 05 May 2005 09:59 am, Jacob S wrote: > > I've got a server that keeps running out of memory and crashing. It > > has 1GB of swap and 1GB of ram. I originally made the swap the same > > size as the ram, as my previous experience with *nix machines was > > that when swap is double the size of ram, the computer is almost > > totally unuseable for at least 30 minutes whenever the computer > > needs to clean out swap. > > > > Has anyone else seen this problem, or is it safe for me to add > > another GB of swap? > > > > Also, I made the mistake of partitioning all the space on the hard > > drive, with only 1GB set aside for swap. How big of a performance > > hit would it be to use a swap file instead of a swap partition? Is > > there an easy (and safe!) way to resize partitions so that I could > > add in a second swap partition? > > What is it that you're doing that would use up so much RAM and swap? > Was the high swap usage expected? This server's hosting about 250 websites - the majority being poorly written php, and incoming e-mail for those domains. It has cPanel installed, so incoming e-mail goes through exim, spamassassin and clamav, but outgoing uses qmail and qmqp to let another server do the hard(er) delivery work. It stays busy enough to keep a 2Mbps connection close to its limit and Apache is usually pretty close to its 375 client limit. The server is a 2.8Ghz Xeon running FreeBSD 5.3. The load is not totally unexpected, as we have been watching the load increase as more sites were added. We will probably end up dumping another GB of ram on it before long. Thanks, Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 21:14:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C45316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:14:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3738F43D6E for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:14:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-27-94-59.san.res.rr.com [66.27.94.59]) (authenticated bits=0)j45LESCs012951 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 5 May 2005 14:14:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050505141221.1d658ad0@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Sender: lists@cobalt.antimatter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:13:57 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Glenn Dawson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: Vince Hoffman Subject: Re: netgraph & netflow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:14:42 -0000 I didn't originally copy the list on this, but since there was a "me too" post, here it is. -Glenn At 07:26 AM 5/5/2005, you wrote: >Hi all. I'm trying to get ng_netflow to work, and I'm having a heck >of a time doing so. So if anyone can shed some light on my problem, >please do so. I've tried multiple configurations, and can't get it to >work right. I can only get it to see traffic in one direction (for >example, flows from other PCs to the server. Flows starting from the >server started by something like fetch or ssh don't show up as >sourcing from the server). Here is the config that I thought would do >that, but it's not. > >mkpeer fxp1: tee lower right >connect fxp1: fxp1:lower upper left >mkpeer fxp1:lower netflow left2right iface0 >name fxp1:lower.left2right fxp1_netflow >msg fxp1_netflow: setifindex { iface=0 index=5 } >mkpeer fxp1_netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp >msg fxp1_netflow:export connect inet/127.0.0.1:9800 > >Using this, when I run flowctl, it shows the source interface as ppp0 >and sometimes sl0, which isn't even connected, and a dest interface of >fxp1. If I switch all the "left2right"s with "right2left"s, I get >only flows going to the server...so after reading how the tee in >netgraph works, I assumed if I switched it, it would show the other >direction. Try this...I've used it to catch flows in both directions for an em interface....you can probably tweak it to work in your situation... mkpeer em0: tee lower right connect em0: em0:lower upper left name em0:lower em0_tee mkpeer em0_tee: netflow left2right iface0 name em0:lower.left2right netflow connect em0_tee: netflow: right2left iface1 msg netflow: setifindex { iface=0 index=2 } msg netflow: setifindex { iface=1 index=1 } mkpeer netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp msg netflow:export connect inet/x.x.x.x:4444 -Glenn >Any thoughts, suggestions? >Thanks, >--Brian > >-- >_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ >Brian McCann >Systems & Network Administrator, K12USA > >"I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of >people waiting to abuse me." > -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 21:15:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD70216A4DE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:15:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (smtp2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.185.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3183443DA7 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:15:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Sebastian.Reichelt@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) Received: from hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de (hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.164.154]) by smtp2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 4.43 #1) id 1DTngR-0007ch-P0; Thu, 05 May 2005 23:14:59 +0200 Received: from sebastian by hek504.hek.uni-karlsruhe.de with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTng9-0000w7-Ag; Thu, 05 May 2005 23:14:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 23:14:41 +0200 From: Sebastian Reichelt To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Message-Id: <20050505231441.4af1533e.SebastianR@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20050505155602.556d2a3c.SebastianR@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.7 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Sebastian Reichelt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation Horror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:15:06 -0000 I changed some BIOS settings, and now it works. Thanks for your help. -- Sebastian Reichelt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 21:39:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9D816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:39:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A4E43D81 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 00D94153882; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:39:05 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:39:05 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Jacob S Message-ID: <20050505213904.GA28525@tikitechnologies.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jacob S , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> <200505051333.05098.algould@datawok.com> <20050505160800.23ad3ac4@jacob.6texans.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050505160800.23ad3ac4@jacob.6texans.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running out of memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:39:07 -0000 On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 04:08:00PM -0500, Jacob S wrote: > This server's hosting about 250 websites - the majority being poorly > written php, and incoming e-mail for those domains. It has cPanel > installed, so incoming e-mail goes through exim, spamassassin and > clamav, but outgoing uses qmail and qmqp to let another server do the > hard(er) delivery work. If you aren't limiting queue concurrency to a fairly modest value, I would suspect SpamAssassin is consuming most of the RAM. (And CPU.) SA is a pig. I would hate it if it didn't do such a useful job. :-) -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@tikitechnologies.com Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect "I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide..." -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 21:47:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE5B16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:47:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2047A43D62 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:47:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thodm@otenet.gr) Received: from triton.local.lan (thes730b-0907.otenet.gr [83.235.170.145]) j45LkRBY029356 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 00:46:27 +0300 From: Theodore Organization: none To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:49:40 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050505203223.70B494BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050505134738.G14827@wolf.pjkh.com> In-Reply-To: <20050505134738.G14827@wolf.pjkh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505060049.41164.thodm@otenet.gr> Subject: Re: System clean-up tool / technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:47:55 -0000 On Thursday 05 May 2005 23:50, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > There's another port* command I can't recall the name of that will > list ports that are not required by any other port which you can > then decide if you want to remove. Might be an option to pkg_info, > I really don't remember. sysutils/pkg_cutleaves =46rom description: pkg_cutleaves finds installed 'leaf' packages, i.e. packages that are not referenced by any other installed package, and lets you decide for each one if you want to keep or deinstall it (via pkg_deinstall(1)). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 21:52:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E3D16A4CF for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:52:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B7243D2D for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:52:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFF03C282A; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427A9580.3050701@toldme.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:52:00 -0700 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050418) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dixit, Viraj" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pico editor for 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:52:08 -0000 Dixit, Viraj wrote: >I am installing Pico on BSD 5.3, the installation for Pico goes up to ver. 4. Will this work or is there another solution. I have vi installed already but I have Pico user here. > Viraj, You might try ports or packages. Or, you might try nano, which I understand is like pico, but without all the yucky UW code. Cheers, -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:18:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAA316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:18:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8747243D67 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:18:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so282106wra for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:18:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nrzA6rE//uIlpt+9+UMAyzxvjzERBjDb6b/ufrgZm/O/bROywVP0ExA7gVZp+t6gSMnXhSspVGJ70l66tVFVerpkwbDNaIqOESMsoo8jfyYvlIyZoFih0OuR0Pa+xDN9oJM8TPd+JPJz0Hd+2H70Wz9dl1ONgakrf/5IothFh2g= Received: by 10.54.30.40 with SMTP id d40mr423011wrd; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <781e2bc005050515186a0eef50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:18:31 -0700 From: Benjamin Keating To: Karel Miklav In-Reply-To: <4278A578.8090803@inetis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <4278A578.8090803@inetis.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Keating List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:18:39 -0000 This is great! I'd love to contribute my mediawiki template and graphic design knowledge to spice it up a bit if you're interested. Either way, I'll be using / populating that thing with as much quality info as I can. Thanks! Are you in charge of this? - bpk On 5/4/05, Karel Miklav wrote: > Benjamin Keating wrote: > > Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little > > more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of > > date. > > > > A wiki would be a great way to acheive this. If there isn't a project > > like it yet, I'd like to propose we set one up. I can contribute quite > > a bit of time and resources towards this. Save me wiki.freebsd.org and > > I'll get a move on! >=20 > What about http://www.freebsdwiki.net? It needs a better home page and > some content, but it's there. Besides, I completely agree with you that > wiki-kind software must replace all pointless hand-editing and mail > shuffling. >=20 > -- >=20 > Regards, > Karel Miklav >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:19:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161BF16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:19:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4560B43DBE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jshamlet@comcast.net) Received: from 204.127.197.111 (unknown[204.127.197.127](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050505221844013005463qe>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:18:44 +0000 Received: from [68.49.67.47] by 204.127.197.111; Thu, 05 May 2005 22:18:43 +0000 From: jshamlet@comcast.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:18:43 +0000 Message-Id: <050520052218.11887.427A9BC30008FD9700002E6F22058891169B0A04030E089C06@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: anNoYW1sZXRAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Subject: What is the best use for this stuff? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:19:01 -0000 Ok, I have a lot of "older" computer equipment - and I've been feeling the need to clean up again. On that thought, I've also been thinking about the best way to divvy up what I have based on the task. I'm hoping a few folks here might have an opinion on the best way to put this stuff to use: What I have: My current router is based around an old ECS P6IWP-Fe board with an 850MHz PIII and 1x128MB of RAM. Due to the chassis, it has a 2.5" HDD. This board *sucks* as a router, primarily because of the onboard ethernet. I'm not entirely sure WHY I chose this board for the router in retrospect, and this board is a likely candidate for eBay. The case is a heavily modified Travla C137 - the original HDD/PSU tray was removed, and the powersupply rotated (and screwed down directly), a 2.5"HDD installed, and mounting posts were added to support a true FlexATX board. The back was modified to allow for two PCI boards in separate risers. Thankfully, any true FlexATX board will fit. My file server is a dual proc SuperMicro/ServerWorks LE board with 2x 1.0GHz PIII's and 1GB (4x256MB) of ECC RAM. It was originally intended to be an application server for a network of X terminals (which is why it was so beefy), but has since become little more than a file server. It is a nice system, though - and has built-in U160 SCSI. It presently serves 72GB (2x36GB) over SMB and NFS, and is the primary FTP server. It is sitting in a gigantic SuperMicro chassis (full height ATX) and sounds like a jet engine idling. The case, and probably mainboard, are overkill for the current usage. My FreeBSD/devel workstation is an Intel D815EFV mainboard with a 1.2GHz PIII, (2x256MB) 512MB of RAM, and an Adaptec 29160 controller with an 18GB U160 drive. It is a dual head system, using both the onboard video and a 3Dfx Voodoo4 adapter. It's housed in a fairly non-descript Enlight micro-atx chassis. (fits nicely, not much personality) I have a couple of WindowsXP stations, one of which is very custom - built around a Tyan S2425 board with a 1.2GHz PIII, 512MB (2x256MB) of RAM, a 40GB 2.5" HDD, and a sound card mounted in a PCI riser - all stuffed in an old IBM NetVista case. I like this machine very much - as it took a lot of work to get everything to fit (involved a dremel tool, a file, and a drill). It also has a very custom wiring harness. This machine will probably stay as is - it's just right. Amazingly, it runs cool and quiet - even at night. (it's currently sitting by the bed - and is probably the second most used PC in the house) The other is a D815EFV board stuffed into an old HP Pavilion XE746 chassis with a 850MHz PIII, 1x256 MB of RAM, and a 30GB HDD. It is also dual head, and uses the onboard video and an ATI Rage Pro video card. This machine is currently unused - my wife got tired of a PC in every room... :) Lastly, my sole Pentium IV system, has a Abit BL7-R(raid) mainboard with a 1.5GHz P4, 1x256MB of RAM, a Creative SB Audigy and a couple of TV tuner cards. It's (eventually) going to become a PVR, with a couple of 120GB HDD's in it. To round things out, I also have an old Intel dot.station with a 667MHz Celeron and two loose mainboards - another Tyan S2425 (minus a video connector), the original mainboard from the HP (Trigem Cognac+) in a bag - along with a Celeron 300A. I also have 2 Creative/Ensoniq sound cards, 3 3Com 3c905C NIC's, a couple of dual port NICS (Compaq) that don't seem to work terribly well in FreeBSD 4.x, and a variety of other odds and ends. An ISA digiboard Xe/8, that I would love to use instead of that crappy 4-port SIIG board, with breakout cable. Too old to really be of use, but I'll mention them - I have an Adaptec 2940AU (narrow) SCSI controller, and three 2GB narrow SCSI drives (old Seagate drives) I use when I want to test out new versions of FreeBSD without trashing my current configuration. It's beginning to get to the point where 6GB is cutting it, though. All of the RAM is PC133 - most of it is Crucial CAS2, but there are a couple of Buffalo sticks that are CAS3, and have questional SPD EEPROMs. The wife is not pleased, as this menagerie consumes a great deal of space. So, it's time to consolidate - but I'm at a loss as to what the best combinations of parts are. So, with all these parts, I need to outfit: 1 router/HA controller (or terminal server) 1 file server (& workstation?) 1 FreeBSD workstation for development. 1 Windows workstation (for the wife) 1 digital video recorder. I can't combine the router and the file server easily - the router is in a small closet, and the ambient temp is ~83degF with the current router, which is one of the most power-thrifty machines I own. The last time I attempted to put the server in the closet, the temperature was getting to nearly 95degF ambient, and the thermal alarm kept going off. (not good) The router really needs to run the HA software - as the wiring closet is fairly small, and all the house wiring terminates there. (all phone, ethernet, cable, sensor, etc.) This machine must have at least 4 serial ports (1 for the thermostat network, 1 for the X10 controller, 1 for the UPS, and 1 for the HVAC/zone control relay) I also use a 5th port for caller ID at the moment. The current file server runs entirely off of SCSI - so all my files are on one of two 36GB U160 SCSI drives. The boot drive is an 8GB U160 SCSI drive. I like to write software for home automation. So far I haven't trashed my development machine, or even had to reboot it, but it's not out of the question. This is why I would like it to be a separate machine from the file server. I would like to trim down to just (!) 5 machines, and either donate or sell the rest. Anyone have any ideas on the best way, using the above parts, to do that? Obviously, I plan to keep the fastest processors, best mainboards, etc - but I'd like to know how others would divvy up these parts. Think of it as Legos for computer geeks! (there will be a spring cleaning at some point as well) Thanks, Seth Henry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:26:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ADF16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:26:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50401.mail.yahoo.com (web50401.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 076CB43D9C for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dsobiera@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56764 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2005 22:26:12 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=YPwCu+2DTLlC3+caqsTVwpibrV7qG+4Qfr/5gbml5VQs84I4IdNv1R69PsLCFXJJ2+093ApHjz6aP4CxoICkAgt8hJEVx94uq2bdMkP9ECQlawb/xwz9W0AuCsNEt6LXBjqE42FxDgTUgss9YQ1E/p4CE47vDe5pD1a9tk7LOc0= ; Message-ID: <20050505222611.56762.qmail@web50401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [149.169.99.83] by web50401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:26:11 PDT Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:26:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Damian Sobieralski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050505192650.1D26116A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Kerberos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:26:13 -0000 > PAM does not map well to Kerberos, unfortunately. Generally speaking > you want to avoid PAM with Kerberos if you can possibly use native > Kerberos > :-) It seems my ignorance is kicking in here- how would they log into the machine first, to issue "kinit"/native if I don't use PAM to get them INTO the machine? > I haven't used pam_krb5 in a long time, but perhaps I can help debug > things. Can you post your PAM configure for however it is that you're > logging in? (SSH, local console, kerberos telnet, etc). The ccache= > option to the PAM module looks applicable, for example. I just modified the /etc/pam.d/sshd file (only using kerberos for sshd): # auth auth required pam_nologin.so no_warn auth sufficient pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_prompts auth requisite pam_opieaccess.so no_warn allow_local auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass auth required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass # account account required pam_login_access.so account required pam_unix.so # session session required pam_permit.so # password password required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass I wasn't using ccache but I looked it up and tried. I put in a goofy filename and when I do a kdestory, logout, log back in and do a klist, I don't see my weird filename. It still is looking for /tmp/krbcc_ one. auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass ccache=/tmp/bubba_u%u_p%p When I log in via pam and ssh, with this change shouldn't I see from klist /tmp/bubba_u... as my ticket error not the no ticket found with the /tmp/kbrcc ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:27:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB84E16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:27:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B797A43D80 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:27:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfarmour@myrealbox.com) Received: from pd4mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.214]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG100B0EFPNRRF0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:27:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.145]) by pd4mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG1007LPFO89AK0@pd4mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:26:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net (S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.146.24]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IG100J4YFO7EO@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:26:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:26:53 -0700 From: David Armour In-reply-to: <20050505192650.A52BF16A4D8@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Naomi Fernandez Message-id: <200505051526.54517.dfarmour@myrealbox.com> Organization: dfarmour.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050505192650.A52BF16A4D8@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 95, Issue 55 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:27:27 -0000 > 16. Trouble with XFree86 Configuration (Naomi Fernandez) > I'm having a devil of a time trying to configure XFree86 Server and Desktop > in FreeBSD 5.3. hello, i hope i'm not giving you incorrect info, but i remember something to do with FreeBSD switching from XFree86 to Xorg, 'round about version 5. and i'm sorrry, but i'm not even sure how to recommend how you might check that. hope this helps though. good luck. dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:34:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB2C16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:34:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50402.mail.yahoo.com (web50402.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6BD643D66 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:34:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dsobiera@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56041 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2005 22:34:18 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=reTKjnWm5LhTDue9C1EdWMV8CvFkXCGsFiayjMylZL0HPz0U/cicd6bQr/kyek/RJP63cCJfKE8HqjZxLuFy1IcuM0M1S2TxiCAt+AEnzZtoqNsdfsfE/cuS+cyN5aNktUimu1/AY+MZe+kIf3qgGRZc77ZGS1dS3Nx+4CclX90= ; Message-ID: <20050505223418.56039.qmail@web50402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [149.169.99.83] by web50402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:34:17 PDT Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:34:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Damian Sobieralski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050505192650.1D26116A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Kerberos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:34:26 -0000 I found another person having this problem. No replies though :( http://groups-beta.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/955323f07570f076/1bf8bf734758fc92?rnum=16#1bf8bf734758fc92 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:45:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E68516A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:45:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE6543D9B for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:45:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86311C89C3C for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:45:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: CqUkehaiJSY/ZmnoD/09z77KZkcgtHM4HksODgTXXhsr 1115333144 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-68-53.access.as9105.com [80.41.68.53]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EB1570147 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:45:44 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 23:45:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050505203223.70B494BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050505203223.70B494BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505052345.22710.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: System clean-up tool / technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:45:47 -0000 On Thursday 05 May 2005 21:32, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > I am a very meticulous person. > I try to keep my systems as clean as possible. > > I was wondering that others like me out there do to keep their > systems clean for stale files and files with no reference to > either the system, its ports and its users. > > I understand that running make world's is one reason to a messy > system, among others such as plain binary carelessness? If it really bothers you: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 23:19:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D72F16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:19:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from buxton.digitalspy.co.uk (ds14.digitalspy.co.uk [212.42.14.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B304243D91 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:19:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan_jay_uk@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from AJDELL9200 (213-78-6-149.uk.onetel.net.uk [213.78.6.149]) by buxton.digitalspy.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01C254860 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 00:19:48 +0100 (BST) From: "Alan Jay" To: Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:19:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcVRyIc337E8w0HRTNqaMOglKZbsfg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20050505231948.C01C254860@buxton.digitalspy.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Disable loader.conf when booting? Can't boot because of it .. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 23:19:50 -0000 > On Thursday 31 March 2005 08:36 am, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > Hi, I really need some help here. I'm running a raid0, with > > vinum, and read the errata about adding geom_vinum_load="YES" > > to loader.conf because vinim_start="YES" in rc.conf paniced my > > system when booting. I'm running 5.3-RELEASE and the errata > > mentioned that one too. > > > > So I added gvinum to loader.conf and now I can't boot. All I > > get is a lot of scrolling text that says something about gvinum > > error, can't remember the exact message but it can't boot > > anyway. Tried single mode to delete this line but can't boot > > into single mode either. Tried disable-module geom_vinum in the > > loader but that didn't help either. It loaded the module > > anyway. > > > > So I'm really desperate here .. is there any way to tell my > > system to completly ignore loader.conf when booting so that I > > at least can access the system and edit loader.conf? > > > > Please CC to me if you reply. > I'm not sure if you can disable loader.conf during boot (would be > a cool thing to know, though). The only thing I know to do is > boot from a live filesystem or from the install floppies and > ttyv2(?) to get a shell. You can then mount your > slices/partitions and comment the vinum_start line out. > HTH, > WizLayer Hi, Anyone have any other ideas I colleague of mine added a line to /boot/loader.conf I rebooted today after changing one of the boot-time variables (maximum data size) in /boot/loader.conf. I took it from 512MB to 2GB of RAM in order to improve the MySQL performance on the server. However, upon reboot, the following error comes up: Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 instruction pointer = 0x58:0x8bc stack pointer = 0x10:0xf80 frame pointer = 0x10:0x0 code segment = base 0xc00f0000, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault cpuid = 0 Uptime: 1s 1) I tried resetting kern.maxdsiz backto 512MB by pressing 6 at the boot menu and doing: unset kern.maxdsiz set kern.maxdsiz=536870912 show kern.maxdsiz - this did not have any effect. 2) The above error message is not similar to ones reported by other users who set their maxdsiz too high. I have subsequently also tried to overwrite from the loader the memory variable to no effect I always get the above error and even going back to the original generic kernel does not help. We are running 5.4-RC4 on this machine. Just to make things worse the machine is in a remote data center so getting in a rebooting with a CD is possible but requires a long drive in :-) Is there any way to unset the settings placed in the /boot/loader.conf while in the interactive loader which is obviously loaded after /boot/loader.conf I assume there is no way to overwrite the /boot/loader.conf with a nul file? Any thoughts gratefully received. ALan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 23:34:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C560716A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:34:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (awv212.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.81.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30F643D9A for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:34:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j45NYq4L022126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 01:34:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <427AADA0.6060701@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 01:34:56 +0200 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050326) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.84/871/Thu May 5 15:50:45 2005 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Inetd and a service listening only on localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 23:34:55 -0000 Hello everyone, I'm in the process of learning ports system. I've made some changes to an existing port (in the Makefile and a patch) for my use but thought about mailing them to the port maintainer. So now I need to be more serious ;) The port (popa3d) is a pop3 daemon which can be run from inetd or as standalone. I've made a patch and added a knob to Makefile to make popa3d listen only on localhost (I run it as standalone with stunnel). I've never used inetd and I'm not sure what will happen if a connection is made from outside to a service which is configured to listen only on localhost. Is possible to run a service listening only on localhost with inetd? How to configure inetd in such case (an entry in /etc/hosts.allow?) or should I disable such configuration? Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 23:46:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D903616A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:46:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB3843D48 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:46:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 6 May 2005 00:47:12 +0100 Message-ID: <427AB058.5080906@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 00:46:32 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050501 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org References: <427AADA0.6060701@orchid.homeunix.org> In-Reply-To: <427AADA0.6060701@orchid.homeunix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2005 23:47:12.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[C24558B0:01C551CC] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inetd and a service listening only on localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 23:46:36 -0000 Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: >Is possible to run a service listening only on localhost with inetd? > How to configure inetd in such case (an entry in /etc/hosts.allow?) >or should I disable such configuration? > > You can (and probably should) do that but why not just block the incoming connections with a firewall? Hosts.allow would just be there for backup. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 00:30:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA72216A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 00:30:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B5D43DAE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 00:30:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82D74BD9D; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:28:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <427ABB29.6000208@cordula.ws> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 02:32:41 +0200 From: cpghost User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050428) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org References: <427AADA0.6060701@orchid.homeunix.org> In-Reply-To: <427AADA0.6060701@orchid.homeunix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inetd and a service listening only on localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 00:30:54 -0000 Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: >I've never used inetd and I'm not sure what will happen if a >connection is made from outside to a service which is configured to >listen only on localhost. > > When you use inetd, the spawned process gets its data from stdin, not from a socket. It is irrelevant that the spawned program listens on localhost (in addition to stdin). Its the stdin path of that program that you should watch when using inetd. Of course, you could use TCP Wrappers in inetd. Or check out inetd's -a flag to bind inetd only to localhost (but check with sockstat -l that inetd REALLY honors this flag!). Setting -a for inetd is a global change though that affects everything that you start through inetd! But why won't you use a firewall like pf or ipfw to protect the service in the first place? Just do this in addition to TCP Wrapper's hosts_access(5) and inetd's "-a 127.0.0.1" setting. It's better to be safe than sorry :-) >Is possible to run a service listening only on localhost with inetd? > How to configure inetd in such case (an entry in /etc/hosts.allow?) >or should I disable such configuration? > > If you want to set the -a flag to bind inetd to localhost only, override inetd_flag in /etc/rc.conf (from the value it has in /etc/defaults/rc.conf), then restart inetd. >Regards, > >Karol > > Good luck! -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:59:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD0916A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 01:59:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583D043DB1 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 01:59:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from koushikn@fastmail.fm) Received: from web1.messagingengine.com (web1.internal [10.202.2.210]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D6BC89EC8 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by web1.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 7C5BB318E; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1115344795.7908.233488628@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: aAN46uVJIdLWdqPp4Br7ArlpPFU+x5e+bxrvD8uhxqrm 1115344795 From: "Koushik Narayanan" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.5 (F2.73; T1.001; A1.64; B3.05; Q3.03) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:29:55 +0530 Subject: Boot Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 01:59:58 -0000 Hello, I have a PC with Windows XP,FreeBSD-5.3 and Linux(Fedora).I use GRUB as my boot manager and I boot into FreeBSD using chainloader. I have XP and FreeBSD on primary partitions.I had a linux primary partion apart from these.I wanted to convert that to UFS2 as my /usr partition (FreeBSD) was almost full.I did that using bsdlabel and mkfs. After that the fdisk print output in linux showed the recently formated partition as type Linux.So I installed linux-fdisk using the ports collection and try to change the system-id of that partition,but it did not work.I then booted into linux and did the same using fdisk.This time it worked.But after that FreeBSD does not boot.(I don't see the rotating / and the loader.The system freezes and even numlock does not work )Here is the fdisk print output from linux: Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20060135424 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2438 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 523 4200966 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda2 524 905 3068415 a5 FreeBSD /*FreeBSD root partition*/ /dev/hda3 * 906 1152 1984027+ a5 FreeBSD /*Partition I formated using bsdlabel and mkfs contains ports */ /dev/hda4 1153 2439 10336536 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 1153 1774 4996183+ 83 Linux /dev/hda6 2406 2438 265041 82 Linux swap /dev/hda7 1775 2146 2988058+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda8 2147 2405 2080386 b W95 FAT32 Partition table entries are not in disk order When I use GRUB autocomplete feature to check the contents of the FreeBSD partions,It says Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition.(I have done this before when FreeBSD was working fine and I could see the contents of the partion). Perhaps the /boot partion needs to be fsck'ed? And if that is so how can I do it.(I found in the mail archives that fsck'ing UFS2 partitions using linux is not possible.) Thanks, Koushik Narayanan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 02:20:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A4C16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:20:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFEC43DBD for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:20:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so374344rnf for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=JWLeK4l0UxqgHuOlBiznQDLtRFa12NzU9CTjjmJJHnzWuqUn/OQdLQrXBlmse15eyEirrvnL5zvY5F4wsq0973D2PKga1WZIvGw1bf+reR6aloojq7uYF3o5aYTul+6jnbi0habTUtXwi3hgh060PepvA+hL01n9SSWBswHBM7Y= Received: by 10.38.11.53 with SMTP id 53mr885326rnk; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.163.133? ([59.93.163.133]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j20sm810170rnf.2005.05.05.19.20.02; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427AD440.6030504@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:49:44 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Hallstrom References: <20050505203223.70B494BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050505134738.G14827@wolf.pjkh.com> In-Reply-To: <20050505134738.G14827@wolf.pjkh.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000903090007000009040308" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Subject: Re: System clean-up tool / technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 02:20:09 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000903090007000009040308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/6/2005 2:20, Philip Hallstrom wrote: >> Hey. >> >> I am a very meticulous person. >> I try to keep my systems as clean as possible. >> >> I was wondering that others like me out there do to keep their >> systems clean for stale files and files with no reference to >> either the system, its ports and its users. > > > The portupgrade port will install portsclean which can clean up > working directories and remove distfiles that aren't referenced by any > installed port. > > There's another port* command I can't recall the name of that will > list ports that are not required by any other port which you can then > decide if you want to remove. Might be an option to pkg_info, I > really don't remember. The port in question is called pkg_cutleaves. Regards S. -- --------------000903090007000009040308-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 02:20:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3B116A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:20:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr (smtp8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD7643D62 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:20:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BF87B1C0026B for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 04:20:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A70C41C00267 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 04:20:28 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506022028684.A70C41C00267@mwinf0802.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 04:20:28 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <143247072.20050506042028@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <995071073.20050505131333@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Clock running fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 02:20:30 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > It is probably a tossup between the i8254 driver taking cycles to run > and an internal kernel counter based off the CPU clock taking cycles to > run. I was talking about SMM, which steals cycles invisibly and also allows mystery software to run in the BIOS. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 02:53:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBAE16A4CF for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:53:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from thingy.apana.org.au (thingy.apana.org.au [203.12.237.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B374143DAA for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:53:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from fun by thingy.apana.org.au with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DT7LH-0006SX-00 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 10:02:19 +1000 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:02:18 +1000 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050504000218.GA10417@thingy.apana.org.au> References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: David Gerard Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 02:53:12 -0000 Benjamin Keating (motionsiren@gmail.com) [050504 10:00]: > Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little > more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of > date. > A wiki would be a great way to acheive this. If there isn't a project > like it yet, I'd like to propose we set one up. I can contribute quite > a bit of time and resources towards this. Save me wiki.freebsd.org and > I'll get a move on! Seconded. I read it and wish for such a thing (rather than the bug-patch-wait-wait-wait cycle). Wish we'd had MediaWiki on hand for Mozilla 1.0 three years ago. - d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 02:53:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C798916A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:53:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from thingy.apana.org.au (thingy.apana.org.au [203.12.237.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B53743DAA for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:53:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from fun by thingy.apana.org.au with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DTID3-0004t7-00 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 21:38:33 +1000 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:38:33 +1000 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050504113833.GD10417@thingy.apana.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: David Gerard Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 02:53:12 -0000 Karel Miklav (karel@inetis.com) [050504 21:19]: > Benjamin Keating wrote: > > A wiki would be a great way to acheive this. If there isn't a project > > like it yet, I'd like to propose we set one up. I can contribute quite > > a bit of time and resources towards this. Save me wiki.freebsd.org and > > I'll get a move on! > What about http://www.freebsdwiki.net? It needs a better home page and > some content, but it's there. Besides, I completely agree with you that > wiki-kind software must replace all pointless hand-editing and mail > shuffling. If it fits in enough with what they want to do, it might be just the right place for a wiki-developed version of the Handbook. (The PR-patch-wait-wait-wait cycle really is incredibly painful and a frequently convincing reason to just not bother.) - d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 03:00:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFCE16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 03:00:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C90643D7E for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 03:00:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-int.prodigy.net [207.115.5.65])j462upK0014673 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:56:51 -0400 X-ORBL: [64.108.40.225] Received: from jacob.6texans.net (adsl-64-108-40-225.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net [64.108.40.225])j4630eqT111502 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:00:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:00:38 -0500 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050505220038.4ee0c05d@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <20050505213904.GA28525@tikitechnologies.com> References: <20050505095927.26da64e9@jacob.6texans.net> <200505051333.05098.algould@datawok.com> <20050505160800.23ad3ac4@jacob.6texans.net> <20050505213904.GA28525@tikitechnologies.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running out of memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 03:00:41 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2005 11:39:05 -1000 Clifton Royston wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 04:08:00PM -0500, Jacob S wrote: > > This server's hosting about 250 websites - the majority being poorly > > written php, and incoming e-mail for those domains. It has cPanel > > installed, so incoming e-mail goes through exim, spamassassin and > > clamav, but outgoing uses qmail and qmqp to let another server do > > the hard(er) delivery work. > > If you aren't limiting queue concurrency to a fairly modest value, I > would suspect SpamAssassin is consuming most of the RAM. (And CPU.) > SA is a pig. I would hate it if it didn't do such a useful job. :-) We just noticed several users with full mailboxes as well, which backs up the Exim queue and uses more ram. And of course, these are the people that are currently getting spammed heavily. So, I should have some good starting points for minimizing load. Thanks, Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 03:12:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9401716A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 03:12:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524E543DAC for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 03:12:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF49E3D42; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:12:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 23:12:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <427AA865.17580.AF7FF69@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <447jift8q9.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4277B05A.23926.1EA6293@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fatal trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 03:12:38 -0000 On 4 May 2005 at 9:35, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Dan Langille" writes: > > > Hi folks. My gateway has been getting this a few times a day for the > > past few days. > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > > > More detail at http://www.langille.org/tmp/fatal-trap-12.txt > > > > Conversations to date indicate a hardware problem. Any > > recommendations/suggestions? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#TRAP-12-PANIC FYI, the HDD was transferred into a new computer today. It's been running for just under 24 hours. No problems. So at least we know it wasn't the drive... ;) The old machine is still around. If I get eager, I'll try debugging the issue. thanks -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ NEW brochure available at http://www.bsdcan.org/2005/advocacy/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 03:50:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896D616A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 03:50:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60AD743D8F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 03:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 May 2005 03:50:10 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 06 May 2005 05:50:10 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 05:49:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1115344795.7908.233488628@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1115344795.7908.233488628@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3756129.5aSzjSCQVh"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505060550.08978@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Koushik Narayanan Subject: Re: Boot Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 03:50:14 -0000 --nextPart3756129.5aSzjSCQVh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 6. Mai 2005 03:59 schrieb Koushik Narayanan: > Hello, > I have a PC with Windows XP,FreeBSD-5.3 and Linux(Fedora).I use GRUB as > my boot manager and I boot into FreeBSD using chainloader. > I have XP and FreeBSD on primary partitions.I had a linux primary > partion apart from these.I wanted to convert that to UFS2 as my /usr > partition (FreeBSD) was almost full.I did that using bsdlabel and mkfs. > After that the fdisk print output in linux showed the recently formated > partition as type Linux.So I installed linux-fdisk using the ports > collection and try to change the system-id of that partition,but it did > not work.I then booted into linux and did the same using fdisk.This time > it worked.But after that FreeBSD does not boot.(I don't see the rotating > / and the loader.The system freezes and even numlock does not work )Here > is the fdisk print output from linux: > > Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20060135424 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2438 cylinders > Units =3D cylinders of 16065 * 512 =3D 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 1 523 4200966 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) > /dev/hda2 524 905 3068415 a5 FreeBSD > /*FreeBSD root partition*/ > /dev/hda3 * 906 1152 1984027+ a5 FreeBSD > /*Partition I formated using bsdlabel and mkfs contains ports */ > /dev/hda4 1153 2439 10336536 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/hda5 1153 1774 4996183+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda6 2406 2438 265041 82 Linux swap > /dev/hda7 1775 2146 2988058+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/hda8 2147 2405 2080386 b W95 FAT32 > > Partition table entries are not in disk order > > When I use GRUB autocomplete feature to check the contents of the > FreeBSD partions,It says Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition.(I > have done this before when FreeBSD was working fine and I could see the > contents of the partion). > > Perhaps the /boot partion needs to be fsck'ed? And if that is so how can > I do it.(I found in the mail archives that fsck'ing UFS2 partitions Usually you don't have a /boot partition on FreeBSD. I guess you don't have= =20 bootcode in the boot label (ad0s3a). hda3 is in FreeBSD ad0s3. You need=20 labels inside partitions (slices). I don't know these linux tools nor am I= =20 familar with Grub but you may want to boot from a fixit disk and post the=20 output from bsdlable ad0s3. I guess this doesn't exist, probably=20 overwritten by the linux tools. =46or more information read boot(8) and boot0cfg(8) to get an idea how=20 =46reeBSD treats the microsoft adopted partitioning system (which also luni= x=20 uses but is uncommon for UNIX) =2DHarry > using linux is not possible.) > > Thanks, > > Koushik Narayanan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart3756129.5aSzjSCQVh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCeulwBylq0S4AzzwRAkGTAJ4vi/yaBiFmO77UGLS/iUTUyKpMMACggcE0 ykma5Axeov88DrhOHYsiU74= =1QSJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3756129.5aSzjSCQVh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 04:05:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3FF16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 04:05:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp816.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp816.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D5D443D1F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 04:05:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@69.235.16.121 with plain) by smtp816.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2005 04:05:33 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <174CE8BC-BDE4-11D9-AAD4-0003930420B6@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: je killen Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:05:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: nvidia nforce motherboard w/onboard nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 04:05:34 -0000 To whom ever receives and responds to this request for info; I had installed Mandrake Linux on a machine that uses an nvidia motherboard and found there to be no ethernet driver included with the distribution. After hunting around I found a driver for the onboard nic from the nvidia web site. I installed it and got a tainted kernel warning. I realize that FreeBSD is not Mandrake linux, but I also anticipate a few hoops to jump through to get a driver for FreeBSD to use this network interface. Needless to say I'm dumping Mandrake and want to use FreeBSD. My source of info at this time is FreeBSD Unleashed; Michael Urban and Brian Tiemann, Sams publishing. It has a hardware compatibility list in an appendix in the back and is copyrighted 2003 but lists minimum hardware requirements as intel 386 architecture or compatible processor (AMD, which I am using, I presume). This leads me to believe that the text is somewhat dated. I have another nic installed in the machine, a D-link card, but I want two network cards. One to connect to ADSL and the other to connect to the inside network. My machine has two pci Slots but I'd rather use the builtin and one pci card slot (which I have been using). I would appreciate any guidance on this matter; E.G, Is there a FreeBSD compatible driver for this nic? I have not determined what chip set is used. Thank you so much for your time and attention: I would thank you by name but I don't know who will be responding; Jeff Killen jekillen@prodigy.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 04:26:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D571716A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 04:26:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D78C343D45 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 04:26:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 May 2005 04:26:36 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 06 May 2005 06:26:36 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 06:26:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <174CE8BC-BDE4-11D9-AAD4-0003930420B6@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <174CE8BC-BDE4-11D9-AAD4-0003930420B6@prodigy.net> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1393189.tMx6LS5sn8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505060626.35890@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: je killen Subject: Re: nvidia nforce motherboard w/onboard nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 04:26:38 -0000 --nextPart1393189.tMx6LS5sn8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 6. Mai 2005 06:05 schrieb je killen: > To whom ever receives and responds to this request for info; > > I had installed Mandrake Linux on a machine that uses an nvidia > motherboard and found there to be no ethernet driver included with the > distribution. After hunting around I found a driver for the onboard > nic from the nvidia web site. I installed it and got a tainted kernel > warning. I realize that FreeBSD is not Mandrake linux, but I also > anticipate a few hoops to jump through to get a driver for FreeBSD to > use this network interface. Needless to say I'm dumping Mandrake and > want to use FreeBSD. My source of info at this time is FreeBSD > Unleashed; Michael Urban and Brian Tiemann, Sams publishing. It has a > hardware compatibility list in an appendix in the back and is > copyrighted 2003 but lists minimum hardware requirements as intel 386 > architecture or compatible processor (AMD, which I am using, I > presume). This leads me to believe that the text is somewhat dated. I > have another nic installed in the machine, a D-link card, but I want > two network cards. One to connect to ADSL and the other to connect to > the inside network. My machine has two pci Slots but I'd rather use the > builtin and one pci card slot (which I have been using). I would > appreciate any guidance on this matter; E.G, Is there a FreeBSD > compatible driver for this nic? I have not determined what chip set is Yes, 6-current has nve, but I guess you're using 5.4, so you have to=20 compile a port called nvnet. It's in /usr/ports/net/nvnet, just type make=20 install. =46or more information how to add packages or ports see the surpassing=20 handbook:=20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html =2DHarry > used. > Thank you so much for your time and attention: > I would thank you by name but I don't know who will be responding; > Jeff Killen > jekillen@prodigy.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1393189.tMx6LS5sn8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCevH7Bylq0S4AzzwRAg5pAJ9PT8s/EJipdSC+j+hrbO3L1IPn2ACeNQ2V lwejR/CtMdbRg3tmW3tA4oQ= =aHj9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1393189.tMx6LS5sn8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 05:02:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7313116A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 05:02:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.20n.nitemare.net (c239-62.lib-twc.ny.localnet.com [207.251.239.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A849143DA0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 05:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmcintosh@nitemare.net) Received: (qmail 57163 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 05:02:04 -0000 Received: from virgo.20n.nitemare.net (rmcintosh@nitemare.net@10.0.0.6) by 10.0.0.102 with SMTP; 6 May 2005 05:02:04 -0000 From: Ryan McIntosh Organization: Nitemare Networking To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 01:02:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505060102.20282.rmcintosh@nitemare.net> Subject: syscons MAXCONS option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rmcintosh@nitemare.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 05:02:12 -0000 I've been an avid user of FreeBSD for terminal based things, and I love to keep terms open on a console only server.. however this leads to the default limitation of syscons, kbdmap, and kbdcontrol where you can only have 16 consoles due to the definition of F_SCR (0x0b) and L_SCR (0x1a) in /usr/src/ sys/sys/kbio.h. I know the kernel option of MAXCONS does increase the console count, however, if you go higher than 16, syscons does show the current max set by that definition, but you can't actually use the consoles due to a check in /usr/src/sys/dev/syscons/syscons.c that won't allow it to go higher than L_SCR, and also both kbdmap and kbdcontrol have this same check. Is it possible to have this fixed, since MAXCONS really doesn't do much, other than max out at 16 consoles. I just keep modifying L_SCR in /usr/src/sys/sys/ kbio.h to what i set MAXCONS to + 10 (of course in hex though, I haven't read through all of it to see exactly why everything is how it is, but F_SCR starts on 11, so there's a gap of 10..?), kinda simple.. is it possible to have this fixed? i keep having to do it manually, and would like to be able to just define it in the kernel config and not have to run rampant through the src to get the define to work.. or if someone wanted to, be able to set it dynamically? :-) Thanks. Ryan McIntosh rmcintosh@nitemare.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 06:29:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D8F16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 06:29:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 890B343D98 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 06:29:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kaeru@pd.jaring.my) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.49?) (khairil?yusof@219.94.56.235 with plain) by smtp012.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2005 06:29:09 -0000 From: Khairil Yusof To: Lars Eighner In-Reply-To: <20050503082805.V20517@goodwill.io.com> References: <20050503082805.V20517@goodwill.io.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-gaKNQYIApLwTTABqz6ma" Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:29:26 +0800 Message-Id: <1115360966.4241.51.camel@wolverine> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HP PSC 1350 and hpoj and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 06:29:12 -0000 --=-gaKNQYIApLwTTABqz6ma Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:28 -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > I am trying to enable the scanning functions on an HP PSC 1350 > all-in-one printer. >=20 > The print functions work with hpijs/cups/foomatic-filters. >=20 > I have installed hpoj, but ptal-init cannot find the scanner. >=20 > The problem seems to be that the scan functions get improperly > attached at boot time. Comment out ulpt and uscanner options in kernel, and reboot. You will be printing and scanning via the ptal device. --=-gaKNQYIApLwTTABqz6ma Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCew7GDAqnLW/+/X8RAllxAKC4HjAHsXUcRUuLvWiLpt2uMDs2YQCg835C DKPyz9aIbPIpshk0Zxo16os= =el8Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-gaKNQYIApLwTTABqz6ma-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 06:46:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DD916A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 06:46:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web25607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C67243D88 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 06:46:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roldanlg@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 72457 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 06:46:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20050506064646.72455.qmail@web25607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.55.129.148] by web25607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:46:46 CEST Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:46:46 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rold=E1n?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: xorg problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 06:46:48 -0000 i have installed frebsd 5.3 with xorg but i'm unable to start the server although i allready have configured the server and xdm start fine what can i do? --------------------------------- Estamos renovando el Correo Yahoo! ¡Comprueba las novedades! http://correo.yahoo.es From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:00:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF5A16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:00:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postino-1.etat.lu (postino-1.etat.lu [194.154.205.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F5E43D5D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:00:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from didier.wiroth@mcesr.etat.lu) Received: from avirus-2.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-2.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.7]) by postino-1.etat.lu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623B31441818 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:00:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from avirus-2.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-2.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.7]) by localhost (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 2) with ESMTP id 69AB135C39 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:00:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes-1.cie.etat.lu (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) 57F1B35BE4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:00:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes-1.cie.etat.lu (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) by store.etat.lu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG200KSR3GNQZ70@store.etat.lu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:00:42 +0200 (MEST) Received: from lucy ([148.110.43.189]) by store.etat.lu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG2003QB3H1F0A0@store.etat.lu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:00:40 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:00:39 +0200 From: Didier Wiroth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <0IG2003QD3H4F0A0@store.etat.lu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcVSCU+anxgbodTvRkSOTTmL1hluHA== Subject: "m-audio Delta Audiophile 2496" under freebsd5.4? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:00:57 -0000 hi, Does someone know which driver I have to use under freebsd.5.4 with this audio device: "M-audio Delta Audiophile 2496" (http://www.m-audio.de/deltaap.htm) thx for the info didier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:08:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D90116A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:08:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net (pih-relay05.plus.net [212.159.14.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCECA43D80 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by pih-relay05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DTwxB-0001uu-8S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:08:53 +0100 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:08:51 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <002501c5504f$e1fd75d0$0200a8c0@satellite> In-Reply-To: <002501c5504f$e1fd75d0$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505060808.52098.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: external usb2 drive enclosure on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:08:55 -0000 On Wednesday 04 May 2005 03:20, dave wrote: > Hello, > I've got a 5.3 box that i'd like to plug a usb2 drive enclosure in to. I'm > concerned about 5.3's detection of my usb ports, they're all usb2 ports, > yet some of them are showing up as only usb1. Here's my usb information: > > uhci0: port 0xde00-0xde1f irq 11 at device 16= =2E0 > on pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port 0xdf00-0xdf1f irq 11 at device 16= =2E1 > on pci0 > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci2: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11 at device 16= =2E2 > on pci0 > usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci3: port 0xe100-0xe11f irq 11 at device 16= =2E3 > on pci0 > usb3: on uhci3 > usb3: USB revision 1.0 > uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > ehci0: mem 0xe8115000-0xe81150ff irq 10 at > device 16.4 on pci0 > ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 > ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 > ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 > ehci_pci_attach: companion usb3 > usb4: EHCI version 1.0 > usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 > usb4: on ehci0 > usb4: USB revision 2.0 > uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub4: single transaction translator > uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered =46rom the ehci man page: "EHCI controllers are peculiar in that they can only handle the USB 2.0=20 protocol. This means that they normally have one or more companion=20 controllers (i.e., ohci(4) or uhci(4)) handling USB 1.x devices. Consequent= ly=20 each USB connector is electrically connected to two USB controllers. The=20 handling of this is totally automatic, but can be noticed since USB 1.x and= =20 USB 2.0 devices plugged in to the same connector appear to connect to=20 different USB busses." That's why there are USB 1 hubs detected. Your dmesg looks normal to me. Th= e=20 ehci driver is still quite buggy and caused me problems so I stopped using= =20 it. > > The enclosure itself is for a 20 gb 2.5 inch laptop hard drive, and it has > two cables coming out of it, one for power the other data. I'm wondering = if > it matters which controller one should plug them into or if that doesn't > matter at all? The enclosure was purchased from CompUSA and all i can say > is that at least this one shows up, the sandisk one, was a no show. > When i plug in the enclosure here's the output i get: > > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info?:202020 asc:11,20 > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Reserved ASC/ASCQ pair > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info?:202020 asc:11,20 > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Reserved ASC/ASCQ pair > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info?:202020 asc:11,20 I get this when I use my USB flash drive. I don't know anything about it=20 except my drive just works normally after this. > > That repeats. Any help appreciated. > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D-=20 /Xian "In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must, above= =20 all, be a sheep." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:18:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC98F16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:18:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E2743D97 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:18:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j467HvdD025400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 May 2005 14:17:57 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j467HrN5029675; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:17:53 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:17:53 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200505060717.j467HrN5029675@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: xmanigga@yahoo.fr In-reply-to: <20050505115343.39277.qmail@web25807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> (message from Xnigga Manigga on Thu, 5 May 2005 13:53:42 +0200 (CEST)) References: <20050505115343.39277.qmail@web25807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mon noyau ne marche pas! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:18:11 -0000 > La commande "make depend" ne marche pas du tout! > Que faire pour ce cas? Sur la liste, il vaut mieux parler anglais alors si personne ne t'a repondu directement, contacte moi en particulier. On the list you better use English, so if nobody replied to you, you can contact me directly. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:41:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED12C16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:41:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C0B43D31 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:41:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j467fqOl038293; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:41:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AB85961F1; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:41:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:41:52 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506074152.GA75051@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?iso-8859-15?Q?Rold=E1n?= References: <20050506064646.72455.qmail@web25607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506064646.72455.qmail@web25607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Rold=E1n?= Subject: Re: xorg problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:41:55 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:46:46AM +0200, Roldn wrote: > i have installed frebsd 5.3 with xorg but i'm unable to start the > server although i allready have configured the server and xdm start > fine what can i do? You will have to provide some more information for us to give you a sensible answer.=20 Doesn't the logfile (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) give some reason for the failure to start? Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCex/AEnfvsMMhpyURAlL+AKChr3xcm27qkpxjlwj/SyViwObVNQCgj0DY 7t56d+0e5oyntRw31UTn2No= =KFbt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:41:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A21116A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:41:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B91843D9C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:41:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 May 2005 07:41:57 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp022) with SMTP; 06 May 2005 09:41:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:41:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1920691.7CX9Jf8rAq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505060941.56312@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: vfs.usermount and directory owner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:41:59 -0000 --nextPart1920691.7CX9Jf8rAq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I want to be able to access my cd drive as normal user. As any user, not a= =20 specific one. So it's a problem that I can't mount it to a general=20 directory like /cdrom since only one user can be owner and it looks like=20 it's required that the mountpoint belongs to the user, even with=20 vfs.usermount=3D1 set. I can't see any security reason for that. If I decide to let users mount=20 something (with vfs.usermount) why is there an extra check regarding the=20 owner of the mountpoint? Is there another sysctl which disables that prerequisite or at least shifts= =20 the check to group instead of user id? Thanks, =2DHarry --nextPart1920691.7CX9Jf8rAq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCex/EBylq0S4AzzwRAkHxAJ4hSDMgyD6Wxl4//Gx+DeQ13HsE/ACfdyew iXTIrmlU6FH6/ACLdlxZB3I= =8iDu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1920691.7CX9Jf8rAq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:49:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEC416A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:49:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web25602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 945FC43D2F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roldanlg@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 8767 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 07:49:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20050506074912.8765.qmail@web25602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.55.129.148] by web25602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:49:12 CEST Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:49:12 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rold=E1n?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: internet configuration problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:49:14 -0000 wy can i surf the web in gnome but i cant fetch a port? even surf with links in text mode? --------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:54:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6800016A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:54:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.softlink.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4CD43D92 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (unknown [213.235.192.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4F030317 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:54:29 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:54:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> In-Reply-To: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505060954.27005.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: installing big qmail server ... where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:54:31 -0000 thanks for all your info guys! ---------- quoting Matthias F. Brandstetter ---------- > Hi all, > > I have to plan and setup a mail solution for about 50.000 users, here > are some key features requested by our customer: > > - self coded webfrontend w/ webmail and administration (filter, alias > etc) - 100MB quota per user > - autoresponder > - about 50.000 user > - online backup of data > - some more featuers for web frontend > > Since I happily use qmail for some other (but smaller) installations, I > want to try it with qmail here for this project as well. My only problem > is, I have no clue where to start ... beginning from "should I use 2 > redundant and really strong or some more but cheaper servers?" to "which > qmail distributions and patches should I use (ldap, mysql, ...)?" and > "how to store data (mails) and do online backup w/o downtime?". > > I know you can't give me _the_ solution for this issue, but I am > thankful for any hints and internet links on this topic. > > I am sure you guys can help me :) > Greetings and TIA, Matthias -- Marge: Homer, you're his father. You've got to reason with him. Homer: Oh, that never works. He's a goner! Bart the Daredevil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:57:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2252A16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:57:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFE743D55 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:57:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j467vBBs043938; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:57:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 83C7061F1; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:57:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506075711.GB75051@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Didier Wiroth References: <0IG2003QD3H4F0A0@store.etat.lu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0IG2003QD3H4F0A0@store.etat.lu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: Didier Wiroth Subject: Re: "m-audio Delta Audiophile 2496" under freebsd5.4? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:57:13 -0000 --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 09:00:39AM +0200, Didier Wiroth wrote: > hi, > Does someone know which driver I have to use under freebsd.5.4 with this > audio device: > "M-audio Delta Audiophile 2496" (http://www.m-audio.de/deltaap.htm) > thx for the info It looks like there is no FreeBSD driver yet for the ice1712 cip that this card uses. Try 'grep ICE1712 /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/*' and you'll see nothing comes up. But there is a GPL-ed Linux driver available (part of alsa), so it should be possible to write a driver. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCeyNXEnfvsMMhpyURAiWNAJ44N27Cg/DiJeC/GxuLH5CT7pxqUgCgrjoj ooQT8xzfsU+adV5HxKpeCOw= =y2WV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:59:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DC716A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:59:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web25609.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25609.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DB2543D41 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:59:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roldanlg@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 73926 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 07:59:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20050506075920.73924.qmail@web25609.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.55.129.148] by web25609.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:59:20 CEST Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:59:20 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rold=E1n?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: xorg problem solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:59:22 -0000 i create a .xinitrc with this line inside exec gnome-session 'couse when i install all the gnome pakage the gdm didn't get instaled and now when i do startx i came into gnome but wy gdm didn't install with gnome, i don't know i use the sysinstall to install it so i imagine that gdm dn't came in the instalation cd --------------------------------- Estamos renovando el Correo Yahoo! ¡Comprueba las novedades! http://correo.yahoo.es From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 08:13:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160C016A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:13:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C9543D79 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:13:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (unknown [213.235.192.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C7430317; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:13:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: Benson Wong Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:13:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505041258.39573.haimat@lame.at> <860807bf0505041646120d4f18@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <860807bf0505041646120d4f18@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505061013.44532.haimat@lame.at> cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: installing big qmail server ... where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:13:48 -0000 ---------- quoting Benson Wong ---------- > There are a couple of issues you will run into here. > > 1. Mass storage. FreeBSD doesn't support file systems > 2TB, at least > not that I found decent documentation and support for. How can you address data storage > 2TB then? Or do I have to split my storage/partition on a RAID with more than 2TB? -- It was the most I ever threw up, and it changed my life forever. -- Homer Simpson Homer Goes To College From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 08:41:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F114616A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:41:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBD643D75 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:41:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j468f02c004872; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:41:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6FF7761F1; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:41:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:41:00 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506084100.GA75487@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Emanuel Strobl References: <200505060941.56312@harrymail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505060941.56312@harrymail> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: Emanuel Strobl Subject: Re: vfs.usermount and directory owner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:41:03 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 09:41:45AM +0200, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I want to be able to access my cd drive as normal user. As any user, not = a=20 > specific one. So it's a problem that I can't mount it to a general=20 > directory like /cdrom since only one user can be owner and it looks like= =20 > it's required that the mountpoint belongs to the user, even with=20 > vfs.usermount=3D1 set. If you set the setuid bit on /sbin/mount and /sbin/umount, you should be able to get around this limitation, I think. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCey2cEnfvsMMhpyURAvdlAJ43ttoGFld7nkecVCzfcwec5bbo+wCfWpxA z+hFfU0uvifmrYsSxnQVTQs= =WcRF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 08:45:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B1916A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:45:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from apate.telenet-ops.be (apate.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32FC43D2F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:45:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geert.hendrickx@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apate.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 660D33802B for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:45:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lori.mine.nu (d515328E3.access.telenet.be [81.83.40.227]) by apate.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 49531381E9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:45:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by lori.mine.nu (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 6 May 2005 10:45:23 +0200 From: "Geert Hendrickx" Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:45:23 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506084523.GA490@lori.mine.nu> Mail-Followup-To: Geert Hendrickx , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Universiteit Antwerpen X-Accept-Language: nl,en X-PGP-Key: http://lori.mine.nu:5190/gnupgkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 1024D/766C1E92 Subject: USB tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ghen@telenet.be List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:45:25 -0000 Hi list, I have a USB tape streamer (OnStream USB30), what do I need to get it running? /dev/sa0 is "not configured". All the kernel says is: > ugen0: Freecom Connector for DVD drive, rev 1.00/9.21, addr 2 > ugen0: Freecom Connector for DVD drive, rev 1.00/9.21, addr 2 Thanks, GH (please CC me) -- :wq From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 09:08:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1239616A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:08:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf.math.ku.dk (imf.math.ku.dk [130.225.103.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438ED43DA2 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@math.ku.dk) Received: from imf.math.ku.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imf.math.ku.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD28B1B698 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:08:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shannon.math.ku.dk (shannon.math.ku.dk [130.225.103.12]) by imf.math.ku.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:08:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:08:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Erik Norgaard To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Spontaneous reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:08:41 -0000 Hi, I am experiencing tremendous problems keeping my FBSD 5 up and happy, yet I keep experiencing spontaneous reboots and crashes. This is a looong story, I have been trying to figure out what's causing the problem for two weeks now. I really appreciate your patience and response if you make it all to the end :-) The setup: FBSD---DSL---Internet The DSL is a Thomsom 510 ADSL router doing 1-1 NAT, no firewall. The FBSD is configured with IPFilter firewall and running named, postfix, cyrus-imap22 with virtual domains and apache with virtual hosts, also to serve the local net (behind the DSL) it runs dhcpd, ntpd and mysql. Postfix, Cyrus-Imap and Apache are all configured with TLS support and I have generated certificates using OpenSSL. This system was installed in november, and upgraded begning january. I have had no problems for months. Then - from the beginning: On April 15, FreeBSD 5.3-p5, I had two simultaneous+/- events: 1) A huge number of incoming mail delivery attempts to addresses of the type randomchars@mydomain.com 2) Kernel panic, fatal trap 12 I had done no prior system tuning or changes. Since then, uptime has been anywhere between 0 and >3 days - the last obtained by stopping all services and disconnecting the machine from the network. 1) By huge, I mean enough to suck up a 512kbps DSL connection, but this should be far from enough to make FBSD cough or even panic. Also, system load is always close to 0.00. I have postfix handling mail and use cyrus-imap with virtual domains as backend. Since postfix didn't know hosted addresses, cyrus rejects the mail. I created a list of existing addresses so mail could be rejected faster. The illicit mail delivery attempts persists. 2) I followed the handbook to investigate the panic: Following the kernel panic faq: Fatal trap 12: Page fault while in kernel mode Fault virtual address = 0xc Fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc053d638 stack pointer = 0x10:0xcb4ddaec frame pointer = 0x10:0xcb4ddaf8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 current process = 28 (swi1:net) trap number = 12 panic: page fault # nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c053d6 c053d610 T m_copydata c053d670 T m_dup I no longer get this panic, however my system does not deserve the predicate -STABLE. Somehow, I prefered the panic, at least it gave some info for debugging. But now it reboots without a blip. Disk errors: The crashes _always_ causes disk errors that cannot be recovered by the background fsck, particularly on /var where mail resides. This may result in new reboots. To solve this I have tried mounting drives read-only, unless write permission was necesary. It turns out that postfix requires write access to /, /usr and /var - the first two appears to be related to tls(?). Also, I have set fsck_y_enable="yes" in rc.conf, so the disk is thorouly checked on boot after a crash. I had dumpon set in my rc.conf but this just made the partition full making things even worse. I have removed all kernel dumps and also unnecessary data as I understood diskperformance may drop when diskspace is below 15%. The kernel: The first kernel was a 5.3-p5 custom kernel. To make it easier to debug I updated to -p8, GENERIC. No change. No change. Following suggestions by Kris K. I upgraded to 5.4-RC2. This solved the panic - but the system still crashes, also after updating to RC3 and RC4. The system: Upgrading to 5.4, RC2, I built world also. I then realized that some ports may have been built against the old base causing new problems. I have now deinstalled all ports. The system has been completely updated, kernel and base, to 54RC4. I have reinstalled the minimal set of ports needed to serve my needs, version to -CURRENT as of may 3. I still experience crashes. Postfix: I tried to limit the amount of simultaneaous deliveries handles. No change. When a connection is made postfix sends a lot of dns queryes to verify that the sender hostname resolves to the ip, that sender domain exists, and that it is not in a block list. IPFilter: I have restricted access to port 25, now only a handfull of servers are permitted by the firewall. This has helped, uptime is now hours rather than minutes, but I still have crashes. I have reduced all timeouts to prevent state table from saturating, but no change. If I open up for incoming mail, for a (any) /8 segment, the number of connections explode. Due to the limitation of simultaneous postfix threads, many time out. No change. I am working on a black list based on the maillog, but this is another project. DNS: Since mail to mydomain.com is currently useless I have decided to set the MX record to 127.0.0.1. This has stopped the illicit mail, but also all other legitimate mail to that domain - mostly this gives me peace and bandwith. Hardware: (dmesg below) I have tried to change the disk cable, I have a 2.5" disk with a converter cable to standard IDE. Also, I have tried the disk in my laptop and it appears stable, but testing period was limited. I have tried both IDE connectors on the MB and both NIC's. No change. Summary: Despite all my attempts to solve the problem, my system is far from STABLE. I still experience spontaneous crashes, allthough less often. It is my personal belief that there may be a hardware problem, or persistent disk errors. The reason is that despite the traffic load satturates the connection it should not be enough to crash even limited hardware. I have no more ideas on how to debug this. Questions: * Is there a disk tool for analysing the disk, marking sectors bad etc? * How do I find the file if I know the Inode number (as reported by fsck)? * Can malformed packets cause FBSD crash? Could Thomson510 be accountable for such packets? * Did I miss the obvious? * Any ideas where to go now? All help is highly appreciated. Thanks, Erik Disk space: df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 507630 76966 390054 16% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1g 30859916 14228272 14162852 50% /home /dev/ad0s1f 507630 42 466978 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s1d 12186190 2134420 9076876 19% /usr /dev/ad0s1e 12186190 7689462 3521834 69% /var devfs 1 1 0 100% /var/named/dev last (24h): norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Fri 6 May 10:09 still logged in norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Fri 6 May 09:22 - 09:25 (00:03) norgaard ttyp0 charm Fri 6 May 08:28 - 08:42 (00:13) norgaard ttyp0 charm Fri 6 May 07:48 - 08:00 (00:11) reboot ~ Fri 6 May 04:16 norgaard ttyp1 charm Thu 5 May 22:45 - 23:18 (00:32) norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 22:09 - crash (06:07) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 22:05 norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 21:45 - crash (00:20) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 21:20 norgaard ttyp1 charm Thu 5 May 21:11 - crash (00:09) norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 20:45 - crash (00:35) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 18:57 norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 18:23 - 18:23 (00:00) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 18:22 norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 16:44 - crash (01:37) norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 15:44 - 16:13 (00:28) norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 13:57 - 13:58 (00:00) norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 13:38 - 13:51 (00:12) norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 13:06 - 13:27 (00:21) norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 10:53 - 11:00 (00:06) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 10:43 norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 10:37 - crash (00:06) norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 10:14 - 10:22 (00:08) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 10:06 norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 08:38 - crash (01:27) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 08:38 norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 07:53 - 07:54 (00:00) norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 07:52 - 07:52 (00:00) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 07:17 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 04:59 norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 04:17 - crash (00:41) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 04:16 shutdown ~ Thu 5 May 04:14 norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 03:45 - shutdown (00:28) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:42 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:40 norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 03:40 - crash (00:00) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:31 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:27 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:13 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:03 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:58 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:51 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:47 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:41 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:35 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:29 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:25 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:20 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:09 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:58 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:53 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:50 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:46 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:42 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:33 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:30 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:27 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:13 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:08 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:05 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:58 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:53 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:44 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:34 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:24 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:20 reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:13 reboot ~ Wed 4 May 23:58 reboot ~ Wed 4 May 23:43 reboot ~ Wed 4 May 23:40 reboot ~ Wed 4 May 23:36 norgaard ttyp0 charm Wed 4 May 20:57 - 23:29 (02:31) Note the reboots from Wed 4, 23.36 - Thu 5 7.52 appeared to be caused by postfix throtling due to a read only mounted /usr. dmesg.today: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 5.4-RC4 #0: Tue May 3 14:07:30 CEST 2005 root@top.daemonsecurity.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah+RNG (1002.28-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x694 Stepping = 4 Features=0x380b03d real memory = 251592704 (239 MB) avail memory = 236548096 (225 MB) npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) vr0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xde000000-0xde0000ff irq 12 at device 15.0 on pci0 miibus0: on vr0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto vr0: Ethernet address: 00:40:63:d4:89:72 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 11 at device 16.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xdc00-0xdc1f irq 9 at device 16.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 16.3 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xe000-0xe00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 17.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 17.5 (no driver attached) vr1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xde002000-0xde0020ff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 miibus1: on vr1 ukphy1: on miibus1 ukphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto vr1: Ethernet address: 00:40:63:d4:89:71 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio2: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on acpi0 sio2: type 16550A sio3: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 10 on acpi0 sio3: type 16550A orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcdfff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1002278507 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 57231MB [116280/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled Accounting enabled GnuPG: http://www.locolomo.org/home/norgaard/norgaard.gpg.asc pub 1024D/11D11F9E 2003-08-15 Erik Norgaard Key fingerprint = C394 81C4 D137 EEE5 39BE 82D5 3E6B FB3E 11D1 1F9E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 09:51:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ABB16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:51:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web25608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C537643D75 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:51:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roldanlg@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 59034 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 09:51:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20050506095155.59032.qmail@web25608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.55.129.148] by web25608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 11:51:55 CEST Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:51:55 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rold=E1n?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: wich sound driver do i use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:51:58 -0000 hello i have a intel High Definition Audio subsystem using the Realtek ALC860 audio codec, how i can get this enabled, or freebsd don't suppotp this audio device? thanks --------------------------------- Estamos renovando el Correo Yahoo! ¡Comprueba las novedades! http://correo.yahoo.es From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 09:59:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0056116A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:59:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9C443D9D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:59:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trenktaz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so628221wra for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 02:59:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q6fq1OkKi1y4crtllBSOmNAgxR+NiCmNGyw3KqJ3dn5bjJso9mYVgyn5/gYuWjwxolPgvBFZMdWUQvdOk+GxzLCgk9vdjcQ7OTWMjvo/jlBiUsoGMxd5y1qUmu9qp/ua7yHsH3pE5VNhX1Mh7y1YIlJRE1FSAWddtFD1AAIoEXk= Received: by 10.54.23.10 with SMTP id 10mr744038wrw; Fri, 06 May 2005 02:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.39 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 02:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:59:03 +0300 From: Mantas Smelevicius To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rold=E1n?= In-Reply-To: <20050506095155.59032.qmail@web25608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050506095155.59032.qmail@web25608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wich sound driver do i use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mantas Smelevicius List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:59:04 -0000 did you tried to load all snd_ drivers? On 5/6/05, Rold=E1n wrote: > hello > i have a intel High Definition Audio subsystem using the Realtek ALC860 a= udio codec, how i can get this enabled, or freebsd don't suppotp this audio= device? > thanks >=20 > --------------------------------- >=20 > Estamos renovando el Correo Yahoo! > =A1Comprueba las novedades! > http://correo.yahoo.es > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 Pagarbiai / Best regards Mantas Smelevicius http://mantas.lt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 10:02:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFD216A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:02:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD77C43D90 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:02:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peanky@mail.ru) Received: from [213.182.178.179] (port=4190 helo=dc2.sovet5) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DTzex-000ORA-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:02:15 +0400 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:01:26 +0400 From: =?Windows-1251?B?yOLg7e7iIMjr/P8=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <843429403.20050506140126@mail.ru> To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: IPFW: 24.6.5.7 An Example NAT and Stateful Ruleset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?Windows-1251?B?yOLg7e7iIMjr/P8=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:02:17 -0000 Hallo! I read article (http://freebsd.vinf.ru/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html) and use your example from "An Example NAT and Stateful Ruleset" part. So, when I use this script for ipfw, I can't be able to use internet, but if I disable the rules 400, 450 I can use internet. I use FreeBSD 4.10, nat, ipfw, squid. # Reject & Log all unauthorized incoming connections from the public Internet $cmd 400 deny log all from any to any in via $pif # Reject & Log all unauthorized out going connections to the public Internet $cmd 450 deny log all from any to any out via $pif My question is: can I use this script for ipfw without rules 400 and 450 or it is a potential threat of security of my system? May be we can put me a link to any article about this? With a best regards, Ivanov Ilya. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 10:06:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D3716A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:06:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6D043DA6 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:06:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])180D11800203 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:06:24 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 6 May 2005 10:06:24 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0BC7A4BEAD; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:06:24 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:06:24 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Philip Hallstrom" Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 05:06:24 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050506100624.0BC7A4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System clean-up tool / technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:06:24 -0000 Hey Philip! Thanks for helping me out. > There's another port* command I can't recall the name of that will=20 > list ports that are not required by any other port which you can=20 > then decide if you want to remove. Might be an option to pkg_info,=20 > I really don't remember. That command sure sounds interesting :) -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 10:24:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5DE16A4CF for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:24:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE48943D8C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:24:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])B33DD18001CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:24:22 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 6 May 2005 10:24:22 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A309C4BEAD; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:24:22 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:24:22 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 05:24:22 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050506102422.A309C4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Want a logo competition? Do it properly. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:24:23 -0000 Hey! I believe that the FreeBSD Project -- representing an open and democratic rule and not a totalitarian power -- should allow its users to decide what logo would be best suited. Hence, it would be in the best interest for the future of this project to put all logo submissions up for public display. This display should be complimented by a voting system. It is very important to get things right from the start. Look at the NetBSD Project and their new logo for instance. The public expressed great discontent about it, but only after the logo had sunken deep into the cycles of production and the mentalities of its contributors. Even though designers do this for free (and I am sure most act out of their love for the system and not because of the reward), the framework of their profession should still apply. That is, a contract protecting their rights from malicious intentions. The FreeBSD Project should acknowledge that the elected designer is entitled some say in the redesign of FreeBSD's website. Its coders would most likely not know the first thing about design, and hence compromise FreeBSD's image and its potential as conceived by the designer. If the website design also should be staged as a competition, it would be in the best interest of the project to let the identity designer cooperate with the website designer on the final outcome. We all want what is best for FreeBSD. Having said that, there should be no reason to fight over this. A working design contract in need of modification: http://www.aiga.org/resources/Content/1/4/6/documents/AIGA_contract.pdf -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.bleed.no Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 10:39:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6BD16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:39:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C24043DA8 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])20D161800234 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:39:34 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 6 May 2005 10:39:34 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 10FA34BEAD; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:39:34 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:39:34 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, lists@freebsd.org, owner@lists.freebsd.org Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 05:39:34 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:39:34 -0000 Hello. I have a big problem. My privacy has been violated. I had no idea when I first started writing posts to the FreeBSD mailinglist that it would be archived, let alone indexed by Google so that the world can spy on my words. Can the FreeBSD mailinglist administrators change my name and e-mails, or delete my posts, if I can prove that I wrote them? Thanks. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 10:52:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A3316A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:52:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4E543D54 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:52:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 164FE1C000C3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E39DB1C000C2 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:52:26 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506105226932.E39DB1C000C2@mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:52:26 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:52:29 -0000 Fafa Hafiz Krantz writes: > I have a big problem. My privacy has been violated. > > I had no idea when I first started writing posts to the FreeBSD > mailinglist that it would be archived, let alone indexed by Google > so that the world can spy on my words. > > Can the FreeBSD mailinglist administrators change my name and > e-mails, or delete my posts, if I can prove that I wrote them? You hold a copyright on your posts, so you can force them to be taken off the Net with a DMCA notification. The notification, which can be sent by e-mail, must contain: * Your name and address, and digital signature information * The location of the infringing materials (where are they on the Internet--a FreeBSD archive server, in your case) * Identification of the copyrighted works (the specific posts you want removed) * A statement saying that you believe in good faith that the materials infringe your copyrights. * A statement saying that you believe your notice to be accurate and that, under penalty of perjury, you are authorized to act against this infringement (as an agent of the owner, although you're both one and the same in this case). * A statement saying that you accept U.S. jurisdiction. You can find model notifications on the Web. The targeted providers must remove the infringing material until and unless they can show that it is not infringing. After a certain period, you must sue them to obtain redress if they don't voluntarily remove the infringing materials. If they don't cooperate, you can notify their upstream provider, which must act or assume liability itself for any infringements ("safe harbor" provisions). I'm not a lawyer, and this is not intended as legal advice. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 10:54:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D016A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:54:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCF743D8C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:54:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j46Ar8sq030794; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:53:09 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j46AsYOE084920; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:54:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j46AsXgc084919; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:54:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:54:33 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-ID: <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:54:42 -0000 ### Please DO NOT CROSS-POST messages to a bazillion lists! ### On 2005-05-06 05:39, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > Hello. > I have a big problem. My privacy has been violated. > > I had no idea when I first started writing posts to the FreeBSD > mailinglist that it would be archived, let alone indexed by Google > so that the world can spy on my words. It's not something very surprising for a project that is open to anyone and encourages participation at all levels, is it? :-) > Can the FreeBSD mailinglist administrators change my name and > e-mails, or delete my posts, if I can prove that I wrote them? No, that would be impossible. Hint: third-party mirrors (i.e. Google). This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. The Handbook section about mailing lists[1] says: | Before posting to any list, please learn about how to best use the | mailing lists, such as how to help avoid frequently-repeated | discussions, by reading the Mailing List Frequently Asked Questions | (FAQ) document[2]. | | Archives are kept for all of the mailing lists and can be searched | using the FreeBSD World Wide Web server. The keyword searchable | archive offers an excellent way of finding answers to frequently asked | questions and should be consulted before posting a question. References: [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL [2] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 10:57:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F6616A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:57:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2331F43D9C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:57:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])162CA1800136 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:57:22 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 6 May 2005 10:57:22 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 099954BEAD; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:57:22 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:57:22 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 05:57:22 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:57:22 -0000 > No, that would be impossible. Hint: third-party mirrors (i.e. Google). What if ones life is at risk? Would that be up to the 3rd party mirror administrators? > This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the > postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. There should be a law protecting users against this. There should be a way to help them! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:06:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8C116A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:06:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717C343D3F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:06:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A5BBD1C000BF for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:06:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8A95D1C000BB for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:06:48 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506110648567.8A95D1C000BB@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:06:48 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:06:49 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the > postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. It _is_ the fault of the mailing list manager that posts are being archived without the permission of mailing-list members. Members must be required to explicitly grant permission when they subscribe. > The Handbook section about mailing lists[1] says: What the Handbook says is irrelevant, because nobody is required to read it in order to subscribe to a list. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:08:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC1C16A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:08:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FED343D8C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:08:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C6ACD1C00092 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:08:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AC6011C00087 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:08:45 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506110845706.AC6011C00087@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:08:45 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:08:46 -0000 Fafa Hafiz Krantz writes: > What if ones life is at risk? As I've said, send a DMCA to the owner of the archive (and to other parties if they have copies). If they don't take down the infringing material, you can sue. If their ISPs don't cooperate, you can sue them as well. > There should be a law protecting users against this. There is: copyright law. But most technical geeks don't know much about it, so they try to pretend that it doesn't exist. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:15:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8D116A4D1 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:15:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A1F43D9D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:15:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 6 May 2005 12:15:39 +0100 Message-ID: <427B51B3.6010207@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:14:59 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050501 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2005 11:15:39.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[EEF6FD90:01C5522C] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:15:02 -0000 Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >There should be a law protecting users against this. >There should be a way to help them! > > No, there should be a law protecting us from dunderheads like you. The sign-up page cleary states that your posts are archived. If you didn't read that, then more fool you. Please unsubscribe yourself and go away. Stop wasting everyone's time. --Alex PS Don't bother replying as you are in a kill file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:22:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D36E16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:22:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from inetis.com (cpe-212-18-40-64.adsl.amis.net [212.18.40.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED1343D94 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:22:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karel@inetis.com) Received: from [192.168.0.14] ([192.168.0.14]) by inetis.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:22:13 +0200 Message-ID: <427B5366.7030608@inetis.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:22:14 +0200 From: Karel Miklav User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Keating , questions@freebsd.org References: <781e2bc0050503170031a960fd@mail.gmail.com> <4278A578.8090803@inetis.com> <781e2bc005050515186a0eef50@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <781e2bc005050515186a0eef50@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:22:50 -0000 Benjamin Keating wrote: > Either way, I'll be using / populating that thing with as much quality > info as I can. Thanks! Are you in charge of this? No, you should talk to the Jimbo guy ("Jimbo is a FreeBSD enthusiast / professional / zealot, depending on who you ask, and is the maintainer of this wiki.") For more information about him try your luck with 'whois freebsdwiki.net' -- Regards, Karel Miklav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:33:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E7A16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:33:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D45343D4C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:33:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j46BVslN003592; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:31:56 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j46BXL0i001418; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:33:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j46BXK7e001417; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:33:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:33:20 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-ID: <20050506113320.GA1309@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:33:26 -0000 On 2005-05-06 05:57, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >> No, that would be impossible. Hint: third-party mirrors (i.e. Google). > > What if ones life is at risk? > Would that be up to the 3rd party mirror administrators? I'm afraid that if your life would be at risk because you posted questions on some of the FreeBSD mailing lists, there are truly more important problems than online copies of your messages. But yes, still things would be up to you and the third party administrators. The postmaster of FreeBSD does not have control over who copies your posts and where they are mirrored. Limiting access to your posts (or anyone's for that matter) is contrary to the openness of the project. >> This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the >> postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. > > There should be a law protecting users against this. > There should be a way to help them! This is why it is documented in a lot of places that the mailing lists are public, open to anyone, archived online and their archives are available through the FreeBSD web site. Thus, it is first and foremost __you__ who controls what is available online by controlling what and when you post. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:34:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FA516A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:34:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bifrost.yi.org (cm-81-9-210-41.telecable.es [81.9.210.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76DA43D6B for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:34:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvsotelo@gmail.com) Received: by bifrost.yi.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 12246C369; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:34:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:34:02 +0200 From: David Sotelo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506113402.GB635@bifrost.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506100624.0BC7A4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506100624.0BC7A4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: System clean-up tool / technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:34:04 -0000 On Fri, 06/May/2005 05:06 (-0500), Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > There's another port* command I can't recall the name of that will > > list ports that are not required by any other port which you can > > then decide if you want to remove. Might be an option to pkg_info, > > I really don't remember. > > That command sure sounds interesting :) portmanager -sl (show leaves) from /usr/ports/sysutils/portmanager From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:43:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F0F16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:43:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jeremino.homeunix.net (jeremino.xs4all.nl [80.126.224.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF0B43D7C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:43:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trap1@jeremino.homeunix.net) Received: from jeremina.homeunix.net ([10.0.0.5]) by jeremino.homeunix.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DU1Eb-0000uc-PK; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:43:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1300683.eBDoCsHzG4@not_a_message_id> From: Kees Plonsz To: ?????? ???? , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:43:08 +0200 References: Lines: 36 Organization: Chaos User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Subject: Re: IPFW: 24.6.5.7 An Example NAT and Stateful Ruleset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:43:11 -0000 ?????? ???? wrote on Friday 06 May 2005 12:01: > Hallo! I read article > (http://freebsd.vinf.ru/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html) > and use your example from "An Example NAT and Stateful Ruleset" part. > So, when I use this script for ipfw, I can't be able to use internet, > but if I disable the rules 400, 450 I can use internet. > > I use FreeBSD 4.10, nat, ipfw, squid. > > # Reject & Log all unauthorized incoming connections from the public > # Internet > $cmd 400 deny log all from any to any in via $pif > > # Reject & Log all unauthorized out going connections to the public > # Internet > $cmd 450 deny log all from any to any out via $pif > > My question is: can I use this script for ipfw without rules 400 and > 450 or it is a potential threat of security of my system? > > May be we can put me a link to any article about this? > > With a best regards, Ivanov Ilya. Instead of copying examples to you own system, try to understand exactly what those rules mean. Read the "man ipfw" page very carefully. Most examples have too many rules you dont need. If you want to know about the safety of your system, let your system be scanned on open and closed ports from outside: http://jeremino.homeunix.net/portscan.php -- Key-ID = A6581435 E-mail: replace trap1 with kees From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:51:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72DB16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA83C43D7F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:51:45 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:51:45 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506115145.GA8316@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:51:50 -0000 On 06 May Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > > > This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the > > postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. > > It _is_ the fault of the mailing list manager that posts are being > archived without the permission of mailing-list members. Members must > be required to explicitly grant permission when they subscribe. Please Anthony, it's been done before. This whole discussion of yours is not going to be repeated, I hope. That's what the archives are for. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:55:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F3916A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:55:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75FF43D8F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id BE20C13BA11; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:55:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EEF13B85F; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:55:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j46Btpum094269; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:55:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:55:51 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20050506115551.GB42487@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , Dick Hoogendijk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506115145.GA8316@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FN+gV9K+162wdwwF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506115145.GA8316@lothlorien.nagual.st> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-DCC: : kweetal.tue.nl 1074; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:55:57 -0000 --FN+gV9K+162wdwwF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 01:51:45PM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > On 06 May Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > >=20 > > > This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the > > > postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. > >=20 > > It _is_ the fault of the mailing list manager that posts are being > > archived without the permission of mailing-list members. Members must > > be required to explicitly grant permission when they subscribe. >=20 > Please Anthony, it's been done before. This whole discussion of yours is > not going to be repeated, I hope. That's what the archives are for. *rofl* discussion, anthony & not repeated in one sentence ;-) --Stijn --=20 Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. --FN+gV9K+162wdwwF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCe1tHY3r/tLQmfWcRAo0yAJ9dBgme3HyRK5r0VRsdGzzNxRBFXgCgrByq f8a0Mly7vzshs7RJ43wYCgo= =tIif -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FN+gV9K+162wdwwF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:57:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972FC16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC66A43D41 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6636905 for multiple; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:53:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:56:45 -0400 To: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:57:08 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 6:57 AM, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > >> No, that would be impossible. Hint: third-party mirrors (i.e. >> Google). > > What if ones life is at risk? > > Would that be up to the 3rd party mirror administrators? A) You sent messages to unknown hundreds or thousands of people on the mailing list, all of which could have a cached copy of your messages, and now wonder about privacy? B) The archives are searchable and referenced, and you claim you didn't know that despite the number of self appointed upper-echelons that reply with a curt "Look in the archives" type answer? C) Your words are being re-mirrored by being embedded inside other posts that REPLY to your messages. You honestly think that a volunteer is going to delete your messages AND all messages referencing your name? Wouldn't it just be easier for you to put on a tin foil hat and go to a courthouse to have your name changed? >> This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the >> postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. > > There should be a law protecting users against this. > There should be a way to help them! There should be. We'll call it The Law of Common Sense. This is a public mailing list. No one invaded your privacy. You sent your words, you didn't stop to think about the implications of mailing a public mailing list on the Internet, and now you're complaining about the obvious way it works. None on the list that I know of is actively digging into your background or prying more secrets from you regarding your personal information...the only stuff out on the Internet are either from public records or information you voluntarily gave out! And you're still posting your signature to your messages to give more information... The way the Internet works isn't a secret. It's also no secret that there are privacy advocates that give information on how to be more anonymous on the Internet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:57:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C3D16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:57:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E92C43D69 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:57:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:57:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:57:07 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050506115707.GB8316@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:57:09 -0000 On 06 May Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > There should be a law protecting users against this. > There should be a way to help them! Yea sure. A way to help them.. But there IS a way. It's so simple. All you have to do is take some responsebilaty for your _own_ acts in stead of crying out loud and blaming other people. All you had to do was: R E A D first and than go through with what you wanted (OR NOT). As said somewhere else, please unsubscribe. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:04:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA1B16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D1F43D81 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D203A5542C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE9A16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ctb-mesg3.saix.net (ctb-mesg3.saix.net [196.25.240.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA98543D98 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from smtp01.za.hybyte.net (wbs-146-141-67.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.141.67]) by ctb-mesg3.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A6E7157 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:04:25 +0200 (SAST) Received: from 030-001.za.hybyte.net ([192.168.1.30] helo=pc2xp) by smtp01.za.hybyte.net with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DU1ZB-0007PC-pi for freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:04:25 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c55233$bfbe80f0$1e01a8c0@pc2xp> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:04:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: high perf kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:04:33 -0000 Hi, Can anyone recommend some very usefull settings for a high performance kernel on 5.4? There doesn't seem to be a LINT config anymore in CVS, so I dont know what all my options are. We have a quad CPU system with 4GB of RAM.... Nevermind what we throw at the system, it never seems to do any actual work.... I'm not sure whether this is because we already have a very good optimised system, or whether our test clients are unable to cope.... I believe that there may be a couple of issues with the high amount of resources we have. The 4GB of RAM seems to be a issue (we can't get MySQL to even manage to use 2GB of it), and from what we can see, multiple processors aren't used either.... I'm also after settings / options for MAXDSIZ and MAXSSIZE, google has returned nothing... I've seen allot of archived posts refering to this, but as far as a actual configuration with those options go, nudda... Our kernconf at the moment: # DB02 - Optimised Kernel for Max Performance. # cknipe - 2005/04/25 machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident DB02 maxusers 512 options NMBCLUSTERS=65536 # maxusers and NMBCLUSTERS are both very important settings options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options PROCFS # Process filesystem options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SMP # Multi Processor System # System V semaphores and tunable parameters options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options SEMMAP=8192 # Amount of entries in semaphore map options SEMMNI=1024 # Number of semaphore identifiers in the system options SEMMNS=8192 # Number of semaphores in the system options SEMMNU=16384 # Number of undo structures in the system options SEMMSL=255 # Max number of semaphores per id options SEMOPM=401 # Max number of operations per semop call options SEMUME=201 # Max number of undo entries per process # System V shared memory and tunable parameters options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SHMMAXPGS=4097 # Max amount of shared memory pages (4k on i386) options SHMALL=4097 # Max amount of shared memory (bytes) options SHMMAX="(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" # Max shared memory segment size (bytes) options SHMSEG=57 # Max shared memory segments per process options SHMMNI=1024 # Max number of shared memory identifiers # System V message queues and tunable parameters options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options MSGMNB=4097 # Max characters per message queue options MSGMNI=81 # Max number of message queue identifiers options MSGSEG=4097 # Max number of message segments in the system options MSGSSZ=32 # Size of a message segment MUST be power of 2 options MSGTQL=81 # Max amount of messages in the system options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device da # Direct Access (disks) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device amr # AMI MegaRAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver device agp # support several AGP chipsets device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device bpf # Berkeley packet filter options IPFILTER # IPFilter support options IPFILTER_LOG # IPFilter logging dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #2: Fri May 6 09:55:13 UTC 2005 root@wherever:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DB02 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3185.46-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf25 Stepping = 5 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 3892146176 (3711 MB) avail memory = 3814055936 (3637 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 32-47 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 14.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0x8b0-0x8bf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 15.2 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 15.3 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pcib1: on acpi0 pci4: on pcib1 amr0: mem 0xf7f00000-0xf7f3ffff,0xe8000000-0xefffffff irq 18 at device 3.0 on pci4 amr0: Firmware 412W, BIOS H406, 128MB RAM pcib2: on acpi0 pci3: on pcib2 aac0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 24 at device 6.0 on pci3 aac0: Unknown processor 100MHz, 48MB cache memory, optional battery not installed aac0: Kernel 4.1-0, Build 7244, S/N b764f4 aac0: Supported Options=11d7e aacp0: on aac0 aacp1: on aac0 pcib3: on acpi0 pci2: on pcib3 bge0: mem 0xfcf20000-0xfcf2ffff,0xfcf30000-0xfcf3ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:11:43:5a:68:70 bge1: mem 0xfcf00000-0xfcf0ffff,0xfcf10000-0xfcf1ffff irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci2 miibus1: on bge1 brgphy1: on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge1: Ethernet address: 00:11:43:5a:68:71 pcib4: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib4 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A orm0: at iomem 0xec000-0xeffff,0xd0000-0xd17ff,0xc9000-0xcd7ff,0xc8000-0xc8fff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 34680MB (71024640 sectors) RAID 1 (optimal) aacd0: on aac0 aacd0: 419943MB (860045184 sectors) (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Vendor Specific Command. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Invalid field in CDB (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Vendor Specific Command. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Invalid field in CDB (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Vendor Specific Command. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Invalid field in CDB (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Vendor Specific Command. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Invalid field in CDB (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Vendor Specific Command. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe36:aacp0:0:6:0): Invalid field in CDB (probe0:aacp0:0:6:1): AutoSense Failed (probe0:aacp0:0:6:2): AutoSense Failed (probe0:aacp0:0:6:3): AutoSense Failed (probe0:aacp0:0:6:4): AutoSense Failed (probe0:aacp0:0:6:5): AutoSense Failed (probe0:aacp0:0:6:6): AutoSense Failed (probe0:aacp0:0:6:7): AutoSense Failed ses0 at amr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 ses0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device ses1 at aacp0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 ses1: Fixed unknown SCSI-3 device ses1: 3.300MB/s transfers ses1: SAF-TE Compliant Device SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/amrd0s2a ohci0: mem 0xfe100000-0xfe100fff irq 11 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered Thanks in advance, Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:09:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F3B16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:09:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFB243D3F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:09:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@math.ku.dk) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE063578EC for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:09:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@math.ku.dk) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEC316A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:09:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf.math.ku.dk (imf.math.ku.dk [130.225.103.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E0643D3F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:09:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@math.ku.dk) Received: from imf.math.ku.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imf.math.ku.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688A01B292; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shannon.math.ku.dk (shannon.math.ku.dk [130.225.103.12]) by imf.math.ku.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:09:21 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=C3=B8rgaard?= To: Chris Knipe In-Reply-To: <000501c55233$bfbe80f0$1e01a8c0@pc2xp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org Subject: Re: high perf kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:09:26 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2005, Chris Knipe wrote: > Can anyone recommend some very usefull settings for a high performance > kernel on 5.4? There doesn't seem to be a LINT config anymore in CVS, so I > dont know what all my options are. AFIAK LINT has been replaced by NOTES, there is a general NOTES in sys/conf/ and a system specific NOTES in sys//conf/. Cheers, Erik GnuPG: http://www.locolomo.org/home/norgaard/norgaard.gpg.asc pub 1024D/11D11F9E 2003-08-15 Erik Norgaard Key fingerprint = C394 81C4 D137 EEE5 39BE 82D5 3E6B FB3E 11D1 1F9E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:09:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A2316A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:09:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (avl33.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.45.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDC343D3F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:09:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j46C9Hgb070093 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 May 2005 14:09:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <427B5E6D.3080001@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:09:17 +0200 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050326) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <427AADA0.6060701@orchid.homeunix.org> <427ABB29.6000208@cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: <427ABB29.6000208@cordula.ws> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.84/871/Thu May 5 15:50:45 2005 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inetd and a service listening only on localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:09:33 -0000 cpghost wrote: > Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > >> I've never used inetd and I'm not sure what will happen if a >> connection is made from outside to a service which is configured to >> listen only on localhost. >> >> > When you use inetd, the spawned process gets its data from stdin, > not from a socket. It is irrelevant that the spawned program listens > on localhost (in addition to stdin). Its the stdin path of that program > that you should watch when using inetd. Ah, that's what I was missing. I guess I was mixing apples and oranges. Now that I know that, I looked at the source and (surprise!) in inetd mode popa3d daemon doesn't even try to open the port, just opens a pipe. Thanks! It's clear to me now it's inetd which must be controlled. The -a option looks best even if this means running two inetd instances as Giorgos explained in other email. The main reason I asked was 'what if someone sets popa3d port to compile in inetd mode with localhost-only option enabled?' and I was worried about TCP connection not being able to reach a service (which is not supposed to do that in the first place). As for the port I think patching the source in such case doesn't make any sense (patch would be applied but that part of the code is never used) so I guess appropriate message will be best. > Of course, you could use TCP Wrappers in inetd. Or check out inetd's -a > flag to bind inetd only to localhost (but check with sockstat -l that inetd > REALLY honors this flag!). Setting -a for inetd is a global change though > that affects everything that you start through inetd! > > But why won't you use a firewall like pf or ipfw to protect the service in > the first place? Just do this in addition to TCP Wrapper's > hosts_access(5) and > inetd's "-a 127.0.0.1" setting. It's better to be safe than sorry :-) > >> Is possible to run a service listening only on localhost with inetd? >> How to configure inetd in such case (an entry in /etc/hosts.allow?) >> or should I disable such configuration? >> >> > If you want to set the -a flag to bind inetd to localhost only, override > inetd_flag in > /etc/rc.conf (from the value it has in /etc/defaults/rc.conf), then > restart inetd. Yes, all that sounds reasonable now. Thanks cpghost and all who replied! Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:15:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D45A16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:15:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D065343DA7 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:15:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1233992nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:15:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nX773Hff9/Q9oUXccjuw6KOTKFyAbWgfPFcU3YsuWF2AyYAFrj3DkhB4L6TEZUpBNCoHjyZyzKUyrLwyEGGWLCxH/dQySf7Z6MIF/sPgdiP+BgpOtKCJQgI73H3Q4gbLN0EAaOzcDBqu/+HABRFYY8iNh0GcXQs6MZBiSwzWkwg= Received: by 10.36.41.14 with SMTP id o14mr566489nzo; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.11 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 05:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2b5f066d05050605155071dcd1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:15:44 -0400 From: Brian McCann To: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20050505104409.1d581b30@cobalt.antimatter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <2b5f066d050505072671fff21b@mail.gmail.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20050505104409.1d581b30@cobalt.antimatter.net> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: netgraph & netflow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Brian McCann List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:15:45 -0000 That did the trick I think. I'll know after an hour or so of "real" traffic going through it. It at least helped me understand it a lot better. Thanks! --Brian On 5/5/05, Glenn Dawson wrote: > At 07:26 AM 5/5/2005, you wrote: > >Hi all. I'm trying to get ng_netflow to work, and I'm having a heck > >of a time doing so. So if anyone can shed some light on my problem, > >please do so. I've tried multiple configurations, and can't get it to > >work right. I can only get it to see traffic in one direction (for > >example, flows from other PCs to the server. Flows starting from the > >server started by something like fetch or ssh don't show up as > >sourcing from the server). Here is the config that I thought would do > >that, but it's not. > > > >mkpeer fxp1: tee lower right > >connect fxp1: fxp1:lower upper left > >mkpeer fxp1:lower netflow left2right iface0 > >name fxp1:lower.left2right fxp1_netflow > >msg fxp1_netflow: setifindex { iface=3D0 index=3D5 } > >mkpeer fxp1_netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp > >msg fxp1_netflow:export connect inet/127.0.0.1:9800 > > > >Using this, when I run flowctl, it shows the source interface as ppp0 > >and sometimes sl0, which isn't even connected, and a dest interface of > >fxp1. If I switch all the "left2right"s with "right2left"s, I get > >only flows going to the server...so after reading how the tee in > >netgraph works, I assumed if I switched it, it would show the other > >direction. >=20 > Try this...I've used it to catch flows in both directions for an em > interface....you can probably tweak it to work in your situation... >=20 > mkpeer em0: tee lower right > connect em0: em0:lower upper left > name em0:lower em0_tee > mkpeer em0_tee: netflow left2right iface0 > name em0:lower.left2right netflow > connect em0_tee: netflow: right2left iface1 > msg netflow: setifindex { iface=3D0 index=3D2 } > msg netflow: setifindex { iface=3D1 index=3D1 } > mkpeer netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp > msg netflow:export connect inet/x.x.x.x:4444 >=20 > -Glenn >=20 > >Any thoughts, suggestions? > >Thanks, > >--Brian > > > >-- > >_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_ > >Brian McCann > >Systems & Network Administrator, K12USA > > > >"I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of > >people waiting to abuse me." > > -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >=20 >=20 --=20 _-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_ Brian McCann Systems & Network Administrator, K12USA "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:18:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C55616A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:18:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C7443D54 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:18:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j46CI6X18338 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:18:06 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 22:18:06 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:18:11 -0000 You know, for some odd reason the word "troll" springs to mind... -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:18:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541C416A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:18:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B813143DA6 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:18:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6639073 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:15:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:18:29 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:18:32 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > >> This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the >> postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. > > It _is_ the fault of the mailing list manager that posts are being > archived without the permission of mailing-list members. Members must > be required to explicitly grant permission when they subscribe. Yeah, cuz, we wouldn't want the archives to be referenced for people who are looking for help on topics, after all. >> The Handbook section about mailing lists[1] says: > > What the Handbook says is irrelevant, because nobody is required to > read > it in order to subscribe to a list. Do they need to issue a specific list of "what to do" when using FreeBSD or interacting with the community? And how many people would actually follow it ANYWAY? Most don't even read the @#%# EULA on the software they install on their home computer. Most users out there still think they OWN their operating system (how many times have I explained to them that they only license Windows, they don't own it?), and you think that people will read disclaimers for joining a mailing list? We're lucky when people read the directions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe. How about people use common sense before joining lists and posting to them, and take some responsibility for the things they do? How about reading up on how it works, or googling for information ahead of time? The Handbook is referenced as what is supposed to pass for the authoritative source of information for FreeBSD users. It is most definitely NOT irrelevant. Just because you'd rather belch out questions to a list instead of first looking for the answers on your own is no excuse for dismissing it, especially since so many on the list have told users to READ THE HANDBOOK, which ironically should show up in the google searches hitting the archives if people bothered to do so. Now they're complaining because they're showing up in the google searches because of the archives...the same ones that keep saying to look in the Handbook for information. Oh, the irony. People won't read the rules and guidelines anyway. Yet the information is out there. It's not hidden. It's certainly no secret that these posts are archived out there, as are web pages and potentially anything else you wave around for the Internet public to see. Better yet start some arguments with the governments and businesses that are video taping people with security cameras on street corners and inside stores. Users have all this information available to them, and it should be common sense that if the archives are supposed to be searchable for future reference that it makes sense your postings may potentially make your words immortal...well, as immortal as the Internet will be. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:32:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809FB16A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:32:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FED43D88 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050506123229.BLLC4191.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:32:29 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Eaaiia Eeuy" , Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:32:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <843429403.20050506140126@mail.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: IPFW: 24.6.5.7 An Example NAT and Stateful Ruleset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:32:30 -0000 If you remove those 2 rules your firewall is completely open. This means you will be deactivating your firewall protection. You have to describe your environment in detail and post rc.conf, ipf.rules, and dmesg.boot files for people to look at. Just saying you can not get to public internet does not mean anything, you have to state just what you are trying to do. When you run test look at the firewall log file to see what ip address and port numbers you are logging. This will give you pointers into true nature of your problem. >From what you posted I would say you do not know what you are doing and that ipfw is not the firewall for you. IPFILTER is more likely better suited to your knowledge level. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Èâàíîâ Èëüÿ Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:01 AM To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: IPFW: 24.6.5.7 An Example NAT and Stateful Ruleset Hallo! I read article (http://freebsd.vinf.ru/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html) and use your example from "An Example NAT and Stateful Ruleset" part. So, when I use this script for ipfw, I can't be able to use internet, but if I disable the rules 400, 450 I can use internet. I use FreeBSD 4.10, nat, ipfw, squid. # Reject & Log all unauthorized incoming connections from the public Internet $cmd 400 deny log all from any to any in via $pif # Reject & Log all unauthorized out going connections to the public Internet $cmd 450 deny log all from any to any out via $pif My question is: can I use this script for ipfw without rules 400 and 450 or it is a potential threat of security of my system? May be we can put me a link to any article about this? With a best regards, Ivanov Ilya. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:37:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C9816A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:37:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2FE43D68 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:37:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])1551C1800297 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:37:24 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 6 May 2005 12:37:20 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 61A5D4BEAF; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:37:19 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:37:19 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:37:19 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050506123719.61A5D4BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: What is --- WRONG --- with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:37:25 -0000 Hello boys! I just spent a few days doing a make world and kernel. My machine is terribly slow. Yet, my network problem hasn't gone away. This shows that it wasn't an asynchronisation between my world and kernel. I've also compiled io and mem into my new kernel. Here is my problem description: * My nameserver setup is disfunctional. * My web, mail and fileserver is disfunctional. * I cannot SSH and FTP into certain servers. * I cannot ping my IP from the outside. * My ISP controls the PTR of my reverse DNS lookup. This fails to resolve too. PF is disabled. My configuration has been running flawlessly for the past few months before this strange happening occured. I know for a fact that this is not related to a misconfigured rc.conf or named.conf. Maybe it is my ISP? # dmesg # Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu May 5 22:54:49 CEST 2005 fafa@ninja.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINJA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium/P54C (119.75-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x52c Stepping =3D 12 Features=3D0x1bf real memory =3D 100663296 (96 MB) avail memory =3D 93036544 (88 MB) Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) lnc0: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 10 at device 1= 1.0 on pci0 lnc0: Attaching PCNet/PCI Ethernet adapter lnc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:4b:30:1e:94 lnc0: if_start running deferred for Giant lnc0: PCnet-PCI pci0: at device 17.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 19.0 (no driver attached) orm0: at iomem 0xed000-0xedfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on is= a0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ep0: <3Com 3C509B-Combo EtherLink III (PnP)> at port 0x210-0x21f irq 3 o= n isa0 ep0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:24:1b:2b:a6 unknown: can't assign resources (port) psmcpnp0: irq resource info is missing; assuming irq 12 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) Timecounter "TSC" frequency 119753009 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master = PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a pflog0: promiscuous mode enabled pflog0: promiscuous mode disabled lnc0: promiscuous mode enabled # ifconfig # lnc0: flags=3D108943 mtu= 1500 inet 213.18X.XXX.70 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 213.187.XXX.XX inet6 fe80::200:4bff:fe30:1e94%lnc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:00:4b:30:1e:94 ep0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.187.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.187.255 inet6 fe80::2a0:24ff:fe1b:2ba6%ep0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:a0:24:1b:2b:a6 media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP pflog0: flags=3D0<> mtu 33208 lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 # netstat -rn # netstat: kvm not available Routing tables rt_tables: symbol not in namelist After the make world and make kernel, it now works: # netstat -rn # Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expi= re default 213.18X.XXX.69 UGS 0 3011 lnc0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 4 lo0 192.168.187 link#2 UC 0 0 ep0 192.168.187.2 00:11:85:df:7d:9b UHLW 0 3050 ep0 7= 31 213.18X.XXX link#1 UC 0 0 lnc0 213.18X.XXX.69 00:90:d0:f4:d8:01 UHLW 1 0 lnc0 5= 69 Somebody please assist me. This is a medical emergency! Tank you. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:42:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891F616A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:42:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6FD43D92 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:42:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6641662 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:38:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9defd00d965ba7f897841f547ee9ed4f@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:42:19 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:42:24 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Fafa Hafiz Krantz writes: > >> What if ones life is at risk? > > As I've said, send a DMCA to the owner of the archive (and to other > parties if they have copies). If they don't take down the infringing > material, you can sue. If their ISPs don't cooperate, you can sue them > as well. Yup. Sue the mailing list archive, sue the ISPs, sue the list members...after all, they could have saved the information in their email client. Oh, and sue Google too. Who do you sue if you write a letter to the editor of a newspaper, they publish it, then you decide you want to take back what you wrote? When you post to a public mailing list, there is no more expectation of privacy than you have walking down a public sidewalk. You made the decision to make your words public. Good luck taking them back, Sparky. >> There should be a law protecting users against this. > > There is: copyright law. But most technical geeks don't know much > about > it, so they try to pretend that it doesn't exist. Bull. It's a very important issue for "geeks", especially with various open source factions starting to get into court disputes over licensing. The ones who pretend there are no copyright laws are the people who pirate materials off the Internet, and the majority of them aren't "technical geeks". Here's some info that seems to show that your archived messages are covered by copyright...but the archives are deemed FAIR USE: ********** Licenses implied by circumstances. Fair use is a legal license conferred by the statute. However, licenses may also be implied by context. Writers who post messages to public e-mail lists should contemplate, for example, both forwarding and archiving. It is reasonable to assume that they have given permission unless it is explicitly denied. One Web site asserts that list owners have the right to approve the forwarding of e-mail from one list to another. Yet, barring a rule applicable to a particular list, I am aware of no legal basis for it. On the contrary, one would not expect members of most e-mail lists to object if their messages are forwarded to others likely to be interested. Likewise, few who post to public lists would object to having their messages archived. Archiving clearly serves the interests of members who may occasionally want to revisit topics addressed earlier. Indeed, most would prefer that to seeing topics rehashed--the reason one often sees lists of frequently asked questions (FAQs) with answers. Can writers revoke permission once granted, say for messages they later wish had not been sent? Circumstances that would warrant a revocation of an implied license are surely rare. Courts generally do not favor imposing unreasonable obligations on others. Because list owners cannot recall messages once distributed, authors should be careful what they post. One more caveat is in order about implied licenses to use other's postings: If you forward a message or use part of one in responding, do not change the author's meaning. No one implies permission to attribute embarrassing (or worse) messages they did not write! ********* The above was quoted from http://www.press.umich.edu/jep/05-01/field.html ...copyrighted by them, of course. No one changed or altered the OP's information. No one is trying to profit from it. No one is claiming copyright on it. It would appear to be fair use to archive or mirror the material! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:47:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D35216A4D0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:47:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out.hotpop.com (smtp-out.hotpop.com [38.113.3.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF8543DA1 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:47:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from personrp@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [38.113.3.103]) by smtp-out.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DF9415A8DC9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 110-ccbh-97.ccbh.upmc.edu (110-ccbh-97.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.97]) by smtp-3.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AD415A6A76; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:47:25 -0400 To: jshamlet@comcast.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <050520052218.11887.427A9BC30008FD9700002E6F22058891169B0A04030E089C06@comcast.net> From: "Rod Person" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <050520052218.11887.427A9BC30008FD9700002E6F22058891169B0A04030E089C06@comcast.net> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (Win32, build 7561) X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: What is the best use for this stuff? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:47:28 -0000 On Thu, 05 May 2005 18:18:43 -0400, wrote: > This machine is currently unused - my wife got tired of a PC in every > room... :) I feel your pain! We have a computer in every room but the Kitchen & Living Room. That's 6 computer (I have 3 in my bedroom). Then I have a basement with 2 working servers a Quad PPro Compaq and a Dec Alpha 1000a. And at least 4 other PC waiting to be worked on. > Think of it as Legos for computer geeks! (there will be a spring > cleaning at some point as well) Do you have a basement or garage?? I done "spring cleaning" once or twice and every time I always run into a situation were the parts I got rid of I ended up needing later! -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:57:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6418B16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:57:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1747C43D77 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:57:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])071BD18001A6 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:57:30 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 6 May 2005 12:57:29 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DF5D94BEAD; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:57:29 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:57:29 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, arch@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:57:29 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050506125729.DF5D94BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:57:30 -0000 Hello. For you all meticulous cats out there, here's how I hope that FreeBSD's dmesg one day can look like. This is merely a beautification that would make more people go "wow, cool" and it doesn't deprive FreeBSD of its UNIX heritage. Perhaps someone out there can help me implement these changes? I have a lot more suggestions for ASCII redesigns, so let me know! # dmesg (imaginary) # Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reser= ved. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu May 5 22:54:49 CEST 2005 fafa@ninja.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINJA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium/P54C (119.75-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin =3D GenuineIntel, Id =3D 0x52c, Stepping =3D 12 Features =3D 0x1bf Real memory =3D 100663296 (96 MB) Available memory =3D 93036544 (88 MB) Intel Pentium detected, installing work-around for F00F bug npx0: Math processor> on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface cpu0: Attached to motherboard pcib0: Host to PCI bridge, pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI bus, on pcib0 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge, at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus, on isab0 pci0: VGA display, at device 8.0 (no driver attached) lnc0: PCNet/PCI ethernet adapter, port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 10 at device 11= .0 on pci0 lnc0: Attached to PCNet/PCI ethernet adapter lnc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:4b:30:1e:94 lnc0: if_start running deferred for Giant lnc0: PCnet-PCI pci0: Multimedia (audio), at device 17.0 (no driver attached) pci0: VGA display, at device 19.0 (no driver attached) orm0: ISA Option ROMs, at iomem 0xed000-0xedfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 ata0: Attached to port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 ata1: Attached to port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042), at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: AT keyboard, irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0: Attached to atkbd0 fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller, at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on i= sa0 fd0: 1440-KB 3.5" drive, on fdc0 drive 0 sc0: System console, at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio0: Attached to port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: Type 16550A sio1: Configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: Port may not be enabled vga0: Generic ISA VGA, at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on is= a0 ep0: 3Com 3C509B-Combo EtherLink III (PnP), at port 0x210-0x21f irq 3= on isa0 ep0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:24:1b:2b:a6 ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-mast= er PIO4 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 119753009 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a # dmesg (actual) # Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu May 5 22:54:49 CEST 2005 fafa@ninja.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINJA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium/P54C (119.75-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x52c Stepping =3D 12 Features=3D0x1bf real memory =3D 100663296 (96 MB) avail memory =3D 93036544 (88 MB) Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) lnc0: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 10 at device 11.0= on pci0 lnc0: Attaching PCNet/PCI Ethernet adapter lnc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:4b:30:1e:94 lnc0: if_start running deferred for Giant lnc0: PCnet-PCI pci0: at device 17.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 19.0 (no driver attached) orm0: at iomem 0xed000-0xedfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ep0: <3Com 3C509B-Combo EtherLink III (PnP)> at port 0x210-0x21f irq 3 on i= sa0 ep0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:24:1b:2b:a6 unknown: can't assign resources (port) psmcpnp0: irq resource info is missing; assuming irq 12 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) Timecounter "TSC" frequency 119753009 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a See the difference. Appreciate the difference. Commit the difference. Thanks! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 12:59:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B0B16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:59:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7A543DB3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:58:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 15179 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 12:58:59 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 May 2005 12:58:59 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 654162F; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Richard J. Valenta" References: <5EEBE9C3C61D1142994C6B620C51E847110A73@depot.weblinkmo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 06 May 2005 08:58:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5EEBE9C3C61D1142994C6B620C51E847110A73@depot.weblinkmo.com> Message-ID: <44hdhgh5nx.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 day lockup on Densitron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:59:00 -0000 "Richard J. Valenta" writes: > Hello all, I'm new to this list, but have been a part of the alpha list > for some time - I hope I picked the right list for my questions. > > At work we had a machine which had in it a 200mhz pentium - the machine > was an all-in-one flat panel made by a company named Densitron for > industrial use. On one side of it was a the flat/touch panel, and the > idea was that it was a complete machine that could be installed into a > wall - how cool is that? > > So when we needed to upgrade, I got my hands on it, and thought it would > make a cool firewall to install into the wall of phone/ethernet panel in > my basement. I installed two ISA 3com cards and FreeBSD 5.3, everything > seemed to work fine, but just to be safe I left it to run for a while. > I came back a few days later and it had locked up... > > So I restarted it, and logged in as root, ran top - and let it go for a > few days. Alsways a lockup, I've now done this a few times and it seems > to happen at 5 days, 1 hour and roughly 40 minutes. Without fail, after > 5 days I'll come downstairs and find it locked up at 5 days, 1 hour, > etc... > > I'm at a loss as to why, I'm no expert with the crontab, so maybe I'm > missing something. But I'm looking for ideas, thanks. This is pretty weird, all right. The time period isn't a round number in any units I can work out, in base 10 or 2. It's probably some kind of coincidence, so try to think of common factors. Make sure that you started it at different times, so you can tell the fact that it stopped at the same period is an indication of how long it will run, and not of hanging at a particular time. Try moving it elsewhere in the house (somewhere with better ventilation, in particular) and see if the behaviour changes. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:06:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E15216A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:06:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB24E43D8C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:06:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DU2XE-0000oG-2E; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:06:33 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DU2XC-0003fs-MY; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:06:26 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:06:26 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz In-Reply-To: <20050506123719.61A5D4BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: References: <20050506123719.61A5D4BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant X-Spam-Score: -2.8 X-Spam-Level: -- cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:06:35 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2005, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > Hello boys! > > I just spent a few days doing a make world and kernel. > My machine is terribly slow. Yet, my network problem hasn't > gone away. This shows that it wasn't an asynchronisation > between my world and kernel. I've also compiled io and mem > into my new kernel. > > Here is my problem description: > > * My nameserver setup is disfunctional. > * My web, mail and fileserver is disfunctional. > * I cannot SSH and FTP into certain servers. > * I cannot ping my IP from the outside. > * My ISP controls the PTR of my reverse DNS lookup. > This fails to resolve too. > > PF is disabled. > > My configuration has been running flawlessly for the past > few months before this strange happening occured. I know for > a fact that this is not related to a misconfigured rc.conf > or named.conf. Maybe it is my ISP? Unfortunately, you appear to be preemptively rejecting the most obvious advice, and implicitly asking that people start troubleshooting "from the middle". Was your machine up without reboot for months? If so, there's no guarantee that the state of named.conf actually reflects the state of the previously running named prior to a reboot (alas, I've seen this all too often). Can you begin by posting your fully-functional named.conf and resolv.conf? And possibly describing exactly what you mean by "my nameserver is dysfunctional"? Do you mean that you cannot resolve addresses from your host? Does dig work against your local nameserver instance? Can you see any of the root servers with dig? Is named just refusing to start? ... and so on. You'll probably have to be more explicit about "certain servers", too. Are they on-site? Off-site? If the latter, and the issue only appears with a subset of ssh servers, this may well be indicative of DNS problems again, since sshds can be configured to be more or less picky about the name resolution of their clients. Have you tried to resolve the PTR record for your IP address from offsite? If this is failing, it's possibly the root cause of a lot of your problems, and you'd need to raise it with your ISP. Cheers, jan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:18:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597F16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:18:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF9443D9A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:18:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 2074 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 13:18:41 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 May 2005 13:18:41 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 37F3A30; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Bhaban Singh References: <5bf722450505050844688e1b3b@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 06 May 2005 09:18:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5bf722450505050844688e1b3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44d5s4h4r2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: regarding SYSINIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:18:42 -0000 Bhaban Singh writes: > Is SYSINIT is same as module_init() in linux? > freebsd also has module_init() funcation, can I used that function > instead of SYSINIT? The Architecture Handbook has a whole section on using SYSINIT. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:18:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC9916A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:18:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE1643D93 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:18:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 2074 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 13:18:41 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 May 2005 13:18:41 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 37F3A30; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Bhaban Singh References: <5bf722450505050844688e1b3b@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 06 May 2005 09:18:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5bf722450505050844688e1b3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44d5s4h4r2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: regarding SYSINIT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:18:42 -0000 Bhaban Singh writes: > Is SYSINIT is same as module_init() in linux? > freebsd also has module_init() funcation, can I used that function > instead of SYSINIT? The Architecture Handbook has a whole section on using SYSINIT. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:20:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B0916A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:20:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A50343DAB for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:20:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])44FFF1800207 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:20:55 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.50) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 6 May 2005 13:20:55 -0000 Received: by ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 26942164037; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:20:55 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:20:54 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Jan Grant" Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:20:54 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050506132055.26942164037@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:20:55 -0000 > Unfortunately, you appear to be preemptively rejecting the most obvious > advice, and implicitly asking that people start troubleshooting "from > the middle". Was your machine up without reboot for months? If so, > there's no guarantee that the state of named.conf actually reflects the > state of the previously running named prior to a reboot (alas, I've seen > this all too often). No, I had been rooting it quite often since I was testing PF. > Can you begin by posting your fully-functional named.conf and > resolv.conf? And possibly describing exactly what you mean by "my > nameserver is dysfunctional"? Do you mean that you cannot resolve > addresses from your host? Does dig work against your local nameserver > instance? Can you see any of the root servers with dig? Is named just > refusing to start? ... and so on. # cat /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf # options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; }; zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; zone "domain.com" { type master; file "db.domain.com"; allow-transfer { 209.98.223.41; }; }; zone "3.0.7.5.0.0.4.0.8.1.6.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa" { type master; file "db.terrabionic.com.rev"; allow-transfer { 209.98.223.41; }; }; zone "terrabionic.lan" { type master; file "db.terrabionic.lan"; }; zone "187.168.192.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "db.terrabionic.lan.rev"; }; zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "db.localhost.rev"; }; # cat /etc/resolv.conf # domain terrabionic.com nameserver 217.13.4.21 nameserver 217.13.7.136 > You'll probably have to be more explicit about "certain servers", too. > Are they on-site? Off-site? If the latter, and the issue only appears > with a subset of ssh servers, this may well be indicative of DNS > problems again, since sshds can be configured to be more or less picky > about the name resolution of their clients. They were off-site FTP servers, some inside Norway and some outside. I'm guessing it is those who check for reverse before they grant access. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:23:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A9716A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:23:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from office.paramon.ru (gw-Paramon-chel.suttk.ru [62.165.36.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E3143DB5 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:23:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) Received: from office.paramon.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by office.paramon.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j46DN2hr011570 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:23:02 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost)j46DN2DY011567 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:23:02 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: office.paramon.ru: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:23:02 +0600 (YEKST) From: Ilia Chipitsine To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506192142.U7411@office.paramon.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.84/871/Thu May 5 19:50:45 2005 on office.paramon.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-102.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00,DEAR_SOMETHING, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on office.paramon.ru Subject: Plextor PX-716a supported by burncd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:23:13 -0000 Dear Sirs, I'm having problems with making that device work (FreeBSD-5.3R) with burncd. Is it unsupported or am I doing something wrong ? Cheers, Ilia Chipitsine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:27:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F41916A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:27:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844CA43D48 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j46DRAtq018256 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:27:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E3B5761F1; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:27:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:27:09 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506132709.GA77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:27:12 -0000 --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 01:06:48PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: >=20 > > This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the > > postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. >=20 > It _is_ the fault of the mailing list manager that posts are being > archived without the permission of mailing-list members. Members must > be required to explicitly grant permission when they subscribe. On the page where you subscribe to a mailing list there is a link to the list archives. The existance to this link implies a public accessible archive of the list. If you don't like that, don't subscribe. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCe3CtEnfvsMMhpyURAvEhAJ46/hG0xCtmRvhw3jsDg7RKQfnGYgCfTh1/ 9/7X8abg8TOEPEJeJVYKktc= =MC0F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:28:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478B816A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:28:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ckmso2.proxy.att.com (ckmso2.att.com [209.219.209.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850D043DA5 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:28:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwb@homer.att.com) Received: from ulysses.homer.att.com ([135.205.193.8])j46DSVFH005635 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:28:31 -0400 Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (akiva.homer.att.com [135.205.212.39]) by ulysses.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11065 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by akiva.homer.att.com (8.11.7+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id j46DRgE16378 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200505061327.j46DRgE16378@akiva.homer.att.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:27:42 -0400 From: "J. W. Ballantine" Subject: date error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:28:33 -0000 Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-stable under VMware Workstation 5. When I run date it replys "Sat May 6 09:19:53 EDT 2000" Now everything is ok except it's Fri 2005. When I check the clock on the windows side it reports the year correctly. Anybody know why BSD thinks it's 5 years earlier??? Thanks Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:29:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50CF16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:29:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B36E43D9A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:29:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 20070 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 13:29:05 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 May 2005 13:29:05 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B191630; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Emanuel Strobl References: <200505060941.56312@harrymail> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 06 May 2005 09:29:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200505060941.56312@harrymail> Message-ID: <447jich49r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vfs.usermount and directory owner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:29:05 -0000 Emanuel Strobl writes: > I want to be able to access my cd drive as normal user. As any user, not a > specific one. So it's a problem that I can't mount it to a general > directory like /cdrom since only one user can be owner and it looks like > it's required that the mountpoint belongs to the user, even with > vfs.usermount=1 set. Yes. > I can't see any security reason for that. If I decide to let users mount > something (with vfs.usermount) why is there an extra check regarding the > owner of the mountpoint? So they can control access to the filesystem. > Is there another sysctl which disables that prerequisite or at least shifts > the check to group instead of user id? No. The normal approaches are to either use mount points in users' home directories, or to use fbtab(5) to change ownership of common mount points. Is there some reason these won't work for you? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:33:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC2116A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:33:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parts-unknown.org (dsl093-170-248.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.170.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF67343D2D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:32:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: (qmail 27315 invoked by alias); 6 May 2005 13:32:58 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 06:32:58 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Dave Horsfall Message-ID: <20050506133258.GA27243@parts-unknown.org> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Horsfall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-stardate: [-29]3897.79 X-moon: The Moon is Waning Crescent (4% of Full) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:33:00 -0000 On Fri, 06 May 2005 22:18:06 +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote: > You know, for some odd reason the word "troll" springs to mind... > Probably the wisest response yet. Let's face it: The guy spams every BSD list out there with some inane grandiosity and is now worried for his life? All spammers should be so worried. -- David Benfell, LCP benfell@parts-unknown.org --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:25:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315E316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:25:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay3-f5.bay3.hotmail.com [65.54.169.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4CC43D94 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xtremejames183@msn.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:23:39 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 213.150.169.20 by by3fd.bay3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:23:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.150.169.20] X-Originating-Email: [xtremejames183@msn.com] X-Sender: xtremejames183@msn.com From: "Mrad James Deane" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:23:38 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2005 14:23:39.0262 (UTC) FILETIME=[080B61E0:01C5517E] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:36:13 +0000 Subject: set http port 80 to a no root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:25:38 -0000 hello , i would like to know how can i set a permission to a non root user to use the http public port 80 . Thanks James Snipes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:38:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC05816A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:38:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.20n.nitemare.net (c239-62.lib-twc.ny.localnet.com [207.251.239.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3047643D8C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:38:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmcintosh@nitemare.net) Received: (qmail 70005 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 13:38:03 -0000 Received: from virgo.20n.nitemare.net (rmcintosh@nitemare.net@10.0.0.6) by 10.0.0.102 with SMTP; 6 May 2005 13:38:03 -0000 From: Ryan McIntosh Organization: Nitemare Networking To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:38:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <200505061327.j46DRgE16378@akiva.homer.att.com> In-Reply-To: <200505061327.j46DRgE16378@akiva.homer.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505060938.19124.rmcintosh@nitemare.net> Subject: Re: date error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rmcintosh@nitemare.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:38:11 -0000 VMware maintains separated clocks from the host system and any other VMware system running. Just ntpdate it and you'll be all set. (If I remember right, you can set the time in the software "bios", you have to get into it when the VMware session starts, you'll see an option to hit a key). Ryan McIntosh rmcintosh@nitemare.net On Friday 06 May 2005 9:27 am, J. W. Ballantine wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-stable under VMware Workstation 5. > > When I run date it replys "Sat May 6 09:19:53 EDT 2000" > > Now everything is ok except it's Fri 2005. When I check the > clock on the windows side it reports the year correctly. > > Anybody know why BSD thinks it's 5 years earlier??? > > Thanks > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:46:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7305F16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:46:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dab.iit.uni-miskolc.hu (dab.iit.uni-miskolc.hu [193.6.5.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDC643D53 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:46:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rutz@dab.iit.uni-miskolc.hu) Received: by dab.iit.uni-miskolc.hu (Postfix, from userid 800) id E3D71A6AD; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:46:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:46:46 +0200 From: Antal Rutz To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506134646.GA54627@dab.iit.uni-miskolc.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Organization: Institute of Information Technology, University of Miskolc Subject: Fibre Channel cards support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:46:49 -0000 I was looking for fibre channel support on the hardware support page http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/hardware.html I only see the lsi-logic cards, but as I was informed by my friends the isp driver supports more fc cards (and there could be more drivers..) My case shows that people looking for hardware support don't choose freebsd because they don't find their hardware on the specific pages. I got into the same situation with HP scsi cards a month ago but I was lucky enough to find it amoung the man pages myself. And as I see the manpages contain alot more hardware than the special "hardware support page". needs update. -- --rutz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:01:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E3416A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:01:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B4243DBC for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:01:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@asu.edu) Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0IG200E01MVU4K@asu.edu> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail1.asu.edu (webmail1.asu.edu [129.219.117.230]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0IG200DLJMVUJK@asu.edu> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: (from emma@localhost) by webmail1.asu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j46Dxn8u004223 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:59:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 06:59:49 -0700 (MST) From: iqgrande@asu.edu X-Originating-IP: 24.30.63.114 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <1115387989.427b7855aeb9f@webmail.asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Authentication-warning: webmail1.asu.edu: emma set sender to aagelast@imap2.asu.edu using -f Subject: Octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:01:13 -0000 Hello all, I was curious as to why Octave is marked as broken on FreeBSD >= 5.X; specifically, what is causing said breakage? Thanks for the info. -Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:01:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B0116A4DC for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:01:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0123843D8A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:01:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46E1Itt014275; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:01:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 85BAE61F1; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:01:18 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:01:20 -0000 --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 05:39:34AM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >=20 > Hello. >=20 > I have a big problem. My privacy has been violated. > > I had no idea when I first started writing posts to the FreeBSD > mailinglist that it would be archived,=20 On the page where you subscribed to the list is a link to the archives. The existence of such a link implies that an archive is being kept. So you could have known there are archives. Subscribing to a list means that you give permission for your messages to be sent to all subscribers. Any one of those could save the messages, creating an archive. So posting to the list implies permission for archival. > let alone indexed by Google so that the world can spy on my words. Technically, e-mail can be easily copied on any server that it passes through. So in effect, anybody who has access to one of the mail servers that your messages pass through can read your mail.=20 Some countries have laws concerning confidentiality of mail, and some have enhanced these to include e-mail. Other governments routinely intercept and scan e-mail traffic (google for "Echelon"). Unless you explicitly encrypt it, you should treat e-mail as a letter in an open envelope instead of a private converstaion.=20 Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFCe3iuEnfvsMMhpyURAsf4AKCCIJp0Ggg4B2o6tnL5kAukAUldKQCY9dHq 4Wrt9Kzy8LXyCmDUhroxiQ== =zxUZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:01:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D37916A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:01:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC95043D1D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:01:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DU3Ob-0006Da-EK; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:01:37 +0100 From: Xian To: Dave Horsfall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:01:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506133258.GA27243@parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20050506133258.GA27243@parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505061501.27045.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:01:39 -0000 On Friday 06 May 2005 14:32, David Benfell wrote: > On Fri, 06 May 2005 22:18:06 +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > You know, for some odd reason the word "troll" springs to mind... > > Probably the wisest response yet. > > Let's face it: The guy spams every BSD list out there with some inane > grandiosity and is now worried for his life? All spammers should be > so worried. A trolls life is at risk? Perhaps someone is doing something sensible about the trolls, like adding pest control to these lists ;-) -- /Xian "TEAMWORK... means never having to take all the blame yourself" unknown author From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:02:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1298916A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:02:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4252343D67 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:02:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Fri, 06 May 2005 16:02:27 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:02:27 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050506140227.GA10524@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <427B7673.9010500@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427B7673.9010500@charter.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: Re: Problem with Perl Version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:02:30 -0000 On 06 May Jim Campbell wrote: > I installed lang/perl5.8 from my ports (...) > (...) what am I doing wrong? As said somewhere else: run use.perl But better still: make a habit of reading the *end_screen* after a port install. Very often useful information is diplayed there. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:24:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0018716A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:24:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (cdm-66-76-92-18.cart.cox-internet.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4121D43D69 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:24:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.157.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j46EOusd039263; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:24:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <427B7E15.8060100@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:24:21 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050503 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: iqgrande@asu.edu References: <1115387989.427b7855aeb9f@webmail.asu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1115387989.427b7855aeb9f@webmail.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:24:34 -0000 iqgrande@asu.edu wrote: >Hello all, > >I was curious as to why Octave is marked as broken on FreeBSD >= 5.X; specifically, what is causing said >breakage? Thanks for the info. > >-Anthony > > You might be able to track it down over at http://pointyhat.freebsd.org ... HTH, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:25:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CBB16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:25:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DE143D81 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:25:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46EPY0P032572; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:25:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6150B61F1; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:25:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:25:34 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ilia Chipitsine Message-ID: <20050506142534.GC77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20050506192142.U7411@office.paramon.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506192142.U7411@office.paramon.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plextor PX-716a supported by burncd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:25:38 -0000 --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:23:02PM +0600, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > Dear Sirs, >=20 > I'm having problems with making that device work (FreeBSD-5.3R) with=20 > burncd. Is it unsupported or am I doing something wrong ? Could you be more specific that "problems"? For instance, do you have sufficient access to the device node? What does burncd report. If burncd doesn't work, have you tried cdrecord from ports? If you want to use cdrecord, add the following devices to your kernel (or load the appropriate modules): device atapicam # Emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI via CAM # Requires scbus and pass device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device cd # Compact Disc device da # Direct Access (disks) device pass # Passthrough device See my freebsd page for setup tips on this configuration: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ AFAIK, you need dvd+rw-tools to record DVDs.=20 Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCe35eEnfvsMMhpyURAmWVAJ9LVIymNO+sjmDBgGYiluu1W8n3cQCfdcCY XCYBY8n1LHPul1fBloeebTw= =egLy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:31:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C417816A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:31:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.ixpres.com (smtp4.ixpres.com [216.240.160.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D6B43D5F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:31:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from webmail.ixpres.com (webmail.ixpres.com [216.240.160.200]) by smtp4.ixpres.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j46EemM04010 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:40:48 -0700 Received: from 64.58.171.86 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vizion@ixpres.com) by webmail.ixpres.com with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1259.64.58.171.86.1115390034.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:33:54 -0700 (PDT) From: vizion@ixpres.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Kde compile failure on FreeBsd 5.3 & libtools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: vizion@ixpres.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:31:06 -0000 Hi Has anyone else had a problem with compiling kde which seems to be having trouble with libtools15 and its dependencies. David David Southwell Ham call sign M0TAU ****Remove nospamme_ from reply to ****** 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing May bound for Europe via Panama Canal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:34:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE74F16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:34:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sockeye.firmanix.com (sockeye.firmanix.com [216.127.139.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC3743DBA for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:34:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by sockeye.firmanix.com with local (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DU3un-000H9J-PZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:34:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:34:53 -0400 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506143453.GA65703@sockeye.firmanix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: dump/restore over ssh question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:34:53 -0000 I am following this guide: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html and successfully dumped /, /usr, and /var over ssh to another box and called them root-back.gz, usr-back.gz, and var-back.gz. But I can't figure out the restore part. Let's say I replace the harddrive and need to restore the 3 dumped filesystems. How do I go about this for my 4.11 box? What I have done so far is: 1. Replace the hard drive 2. Minimal install of 4.11 so the drive is partitioned the same as before 3. Copied the 3 dumped/gzipped files over ssh to the system w/new drive 4. Then I booted into fixit mode, and am stuck here... How do I restore the 3 filesystems? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:37:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A064916A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:37:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DB443D8B for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:37:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9940 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU3xC-00042k-1z; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:37:22 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ABB28400A; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:39:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (82-197-199-160.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.199.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2B858CC1F; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:37:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:37:20 +0200 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: vizion@ixpres.com Message-Id: <20050506163720.36445e8a.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <1259.64.58.171.86.1115390034.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> References: <1259.64.58.171.86.1115390034.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kde compile failure on FreeBsd 5.3 & libtools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:37:24 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2005 07:33:54 -0700 (PDT) vizion@ixpres.com wrote: > Has anyone else had a problem with compiling kde which seems to be > having trouble with libtools15 and its dependencies. no trouble compiling KDE on FreeBSD 5.3 (standard) here, if such problems appear i usually perform a : pkg_delete libtool* auto* portsclean -C and try again From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:48:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556C916A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:48:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exchange.redmoonbroadband.com (exchange.redmoonbroadband.com [206.123.80.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B5443D1D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:48:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cholland@redmoonbroadband.com) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:48:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4B3EE484EEA4F344BBB62F83164899861A43E1@corpsrv.RedMoon.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Adding PHP Plugin Thread-Index: AcVSSofr19e7MV/hQ5WsA/eS/tWRhA== From: "Cody Holland" To: Subject: Adding PHP Plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:48:41 -0000 How would I go about adding a pluggin to php4-extension. I've already installed in, but need to add support for pcntl. Do I need to remove extensions all together and reinstall them from scratch, or is there an easier way?? Cody Holland Field Engineer Redmoon Broadband, Inc. 972-599-3900x26 cholland@redmoonbroadband.com ****************************************** The information contained in, or attached to, this e-mail, may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed and may be subject to legal privilege. If you have received this e-mail in error you should notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail, delete the message from your system and notify your system manager. Please do not copy it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any other person. The views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. 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The company accepts no liability for any damage caused, directly or indirectly, by any virus transmitted in this email. ******************************************=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:54:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3675C16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:54:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC6F43D3F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j46EsBVf072918 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 06:54:11 -0800 Message-Id: <20050506145411.M23987@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 67.164.14.6 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: NOCOL users mail list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:54:13 -0000 Hi there, is there a fairly active NOCOL users mail list out there somewhere? Please send along the subscribe details if there is. cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:03:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DC716A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:03:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F63443D2F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:03:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9943 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU4M4-000J9R-9o; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:03:04 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F7028400A; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from amandla.scii.nl (82-197-199-160.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.199.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA4458CBC5; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:02:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:02:57 +0200 From: albi To: "Cody Holland" Message-Id: <20050506170257.3c1c8272.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <4B3EE484EEA4F344BBB62F83164899861A43E1@corpsrv.RedMoon.local> References: <4B3EE484EEA4F344BBB62F83164899861A43E1@corpsrv.RedMoon.local> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.9 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding PHP Plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:03:05 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2005 09:48:30 -0500 "Cody Holland" wrote: > How would I go about adding a pluggin to php4-extension. I've already > installed in, but need to add support for pcntl. Do I need to remove > extensions all together and reinstall them from scratch, or is there an > easier way?? did you install php and, say, apache completely from source and not from ports ? a quick "cd /usr/ports ; make search key=pcntl" shows both pcntl for php4 and php5 afaik via the ports it will update /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini automagically in case of using php/apache without the ports-collection it's a matter of editing that last file i assume HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:06:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DBA16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:06:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out.hotpop.com (smtp-out.hotpop.com [38.113.3.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C5243D78 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:06:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from personrp@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [38.113.3.103]) by smtp-out.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B9015A35E0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 110-ccbh-97.ccbh.upmc.edu (110-ccbh-97.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.97]) by smtp-1.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2061F1A01B7; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:06:30 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ilia Chipitsine" , questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506192142.U7411@office.paramon.ru> Message-ID: From: "Rod Person" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:06:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20050506192142.U7411@office.paramon.ru> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (Win32, build 7561) X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Plextor PX-716a supported by burncd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:06:41 -0000 On Fri, 06 May 2005 09:23:02 -0400, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I'm having problems with making that device work (FreeBSD-5.3R) with > burncd. Is it unsupported or am I doing something wrong ? > I've got this device. What's your specific problem. It works great for me. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:13:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940E416A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:13:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416C743D41 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:13:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) j46FDHoR095413 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:13:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j46FDGtv000966 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:13:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j46FDGTd000965 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:13:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:13:16 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:13:20 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 01:06:48PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > > > This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the > > postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. > > It _is_ the fault of the mailing list manager that posts are being > archived without the permission of mailing-list members. Members must > be required to explicitly grant permission when they subscribe. > > > The Handbook section about mailing lists[1] says: > > What the Handbook says is irrelevant, because nobody is required to read > it in order to subscribe to a list. > Well, the "Mailing lists" link on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ homepage points on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:28:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739A516A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:28:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E0043D93 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:28:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DU4ks-0001Hc-5E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 16:28:42 +0100 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:28:40 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506143453.GA65703@sockeye.firmanix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050506143453.GA65703@sockeye.firmanix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505061628.41006.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: dump/restore over ssh question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:28:44 -0000 On Friday 06 May 2005 15:34, Andy Firman wrote: > I am following this guide: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.htm >l and successfully dumped /, /usr, and /var over ssh to another box and > called them root-back.gz, usr-back.gz, and var-back.gz. > > But I can't figure out the restore part. Let's say I replace the > harddrive and need to restore the 3 dumped filesystems. > > How do I go about this for my 4.11 box? > > What I have done so far is: > 1. Replace the hard drive > 2. Minimal install of 4.11 so the drive is partitioned the same as before > 3. Copied the 3 dumped/gzipped files over ssh to the system w/new drive > 4. Then I booted into fixit mode, and am stuck here... > > How do I restore the 3 filesystems? > > Thanks, > Andy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" To restore the filesystems: Boot from a rescue disk and create the partitions of on the disk. I've never smashed anything badly enough to need to work out how to do this. At least the partitions were still there. Then newfs the partitions. Assuming you are putting back /tmp as well. You will need some temp space for restore to work. newfs -O2 -U /dev/ad0s1a newfs -O2 -U /dev/ad0s1d newfs -O2 -U /dev/ad0s1e newfs -O2 -U /dev/ad0s1f Then mount the filesystems. cd /mnt mkdir root var usr tmp mount /dev/ad0s1a root . . . mount /dev/ad0s1f usr Set the temp dir so restore can use all the temp space it wants setenv TMPDIR /mnt/tmp Then for each file system to be restored, cd into the right place, fetch the backup and restore it. cd /mnt/usr ssh BoxWithBackupsOn cat /path/to/backup | zcat | restore -rf - It would be a wise idea to test this on another box if you can because it is much nicer to attempt a restore knowing it has been done before. -- /Xian "When the going gets tough, the tough take a coffee break" unknown author From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:32:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D8316A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:32:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F0343D49 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:32:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from clem.twain@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so524211nzo for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:32:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tkjrdweIwJkL/EB+PFy+2rXs46dnRazco88JAbMBl36/kS+033QCDE/sgEF6rFfBjGkqn7nyk5IjltZJ7ZL1yoczsTmqRBwC8WgbLdUJEsmDToGVuUDhZ2ztyX6vEy6W12aTrSVESP539fV8V7a7sKZUvjX9+Vu4/dhTKrl9c3U= Received: by 10.36.42.19 with SMTP id p19mr621643nzp; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?196.216.3.2? ([196.216.3.2]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 38sm586930nza.2005.05.06.08.32.05; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427B8DCC.6090703@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:31:24 +0200 From: Clement Twine Organization: The Net Freax BV User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: timestamps/datestamps in history output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: clem.twain@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:32:08 -0000 hi, does anyone know how the "history" output can display date/timestamps? rgds ernest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:35:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B961516A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:35:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.interbgc.com (mail.interbgc.com [217.9.224.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E61B43D41 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:35:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.yosifov@interbgc.com) Received: (qmail 9345 invoked by uid 1008); 6 May 2005 15:35:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20050506153552.9343.qmail@ns1.interbgc.com> From: "v.yosifov" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:35:52 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Please help!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:35:57 -0000 Hi.. I have the following problem. I installed FreeBSD 5.3, after that 5.4 on my pc, but have problem with the internet connectivity. I use a DHCP, and my network card uses dc0, but when it tries to connect the following occures in the messages.log: kernel: dc0: failed to force tx and rx idle to state I read some documentation, but with no results..that's why i'm asking you for help Best wishes./. Vasil Yosifov System Administrator From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:48:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E4B16A4D5 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:48:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postman.inteliport.com (postman.inteliport.com [208.27.31.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D162043D7E for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:48:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colane@inteliport.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (ip39.inteliport.net [208.27.31.39]) by postman.inteliport.com (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id j46FoXX22926 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:50:33 -0400 Message-ID: <427B91DC.6060801@inteliport.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:48:44 -0400 From: Christopher Lane User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: World version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:48:47 -0000 Hi, Simple question: how can I tell what version of the system binaries I'm running? Flame-proofing follows. Searches on this mailing list and google tell me 'uname -a' is the ticket, but that doesn't seem to get what I want. Here's the testing I've done. * Install 5.3 from cd on two machines * CVSup /usr/src on both to 5.4-STABLE * On box #1, I configure/upgrade just the kernel (using the "old way") * On box #2, I do the entire 'make buildworld' through 'mergemaster' as per handbook section 19.4 My understanding is that on box #1 I'm running a 5.4 kernel with 5.3 system binaries (which is a bad thing to do). Box #2 is 5.4 for both. Here's the uname output for both boxes: box #1: FreeBSD name.domain 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #2: Thu Apr 21 12:02:07 EDT 2005 user@name.domain:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/FIREWALL i386 box #2: FreeBSD name.domain 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri May 6 09:46:40 EDT 2005 user@name.domain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDBOX i386 I know the first box has 5.3 binaries, but uname -a doesn't indicate that. So how can I tell the first box has mismatched kernel/userspace? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:59:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EB616A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:59:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web14124.mail.yahoo.com (web14124.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.171.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B42B043DA3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:59:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from k_greenwood1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 24255 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 15:59:15 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=UfgbI0oqKLtD8/bjeLVjqfXrDKYjIAdQ9wGnWJCJQ8sBDxHIO8ZRD3znqeERhIHt0bvNNZQ35qBNIoZRpW4EjzchxW5tU4ndS6JUE/3J8C1xIHOf6rpp3xf2YLUk1QLPotSsUSWVh3Ruvopti7SugWdEWGCNAEro07d++4a5mZc= ; Message-ID: <20050506155915.24253.qmail@web14124.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.109.29.231] by web14124.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:59:15 PDT Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:59:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Greenwood" To: Noah , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: NOCOL users mail list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:59:16 -0000 --- Noah wrote: > Hi there, > > > is there a fairly active NOCOL users mail list out > there somewhere? Please > send along the subscribe details if there is. > > cheers, > > Noah The reason that your first inquiry may not have received a response was that FreeBSD is not directly associated to NOCOL. It is only a ported application. See the following: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/net-mgmt/nocol/pkg-descr Clearly the official site is http://www.netplex-tech.com/software/nocol/ FreeBSD is really not the environment for NOCOL specific queries. FAQ's are located at http://www.netplex-tech.com/software/nocol/faq.html Good luck. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:01:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7632616A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9147643DC2 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A894B389233; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:01:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:01:18 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: jshamlet@comcast.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <050520052218.11887.427A9BC30008FD9700002E6F22058891169B0A04030E089C06@comcast.net> References: <050520052218.11887.427A9BC30008FD9700002E6F22058891169B0A04030E 089C06@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: What is the best use for this stuff? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:01:28 -0000 --On Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:18:43 PM +0000 jshamlet@comcast.net wrote: > > I would like to trim down to just (!) 5 machines, and either donate or > sell the rest. Anyone have any ideas on the best way, using the above > parts, to do that? Obviously, I plan to keep the fastest processors, best > mainboards, etc - but I'd like to know how others would divvy up these > parts. > I can't help you with the first part, but many charities will take old computer equipment, even inoperable equipment. They recondition some, sell others for scrap, etc., but they will take *anything* that you don't want. I've been giving away all my old computer stuff that way for a while. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:02:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498AE16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:02:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B77F43D41 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j46G1x0s093799 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:01:59 -0800 Message-Id: <20050506160159.M53727@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 67.164.14.6 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: nagios config menu does not reappear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:02:00 -0000 FreeBSD-4.11-p3 nagios-2.0b3 I am attmepting to reinstall nagios-2.0b3 from /usr/ports. and cant seem to figure out how to get the configuration option window back again before building. 'make clean' does not work and 'rm -rf /var/db/ports/nagios/*' did not remove any relevant configuration files. what else can I try here? any clues? cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:09:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E8F16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:09:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05BC43DA9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so450652rnf for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:09:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aPrHs9RzU9P2MR5oFRU7v4tqujY4QeCbcZmn7rH5eLqAfJSajqj5upYxmOaxCa0bbKJxvLTgONK8LQNvPmYp/aGlbjO5Hamf/SOSyOINfFNdX09Kat2y1T5JBiGLp8+H1cAWDDPSkuT8AVL08lbysmcGCoUoZMwL2MdniayZfFE= Received: by 10.38.66.45 with SMTP id o45mr68186rna; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.101.19 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 01:09:52 +0900 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Naomi Fernandez In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble with XFree86 Configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:09:53 -0000 2005/5/6, Naomi Fernandez : > "Hi! >=20 > I'm having a devil of a time trying to configure XFree86 Server and Deskt= op > in FreeBSD 5.3. >=20 > I was running FreeBSD 4.9 just fine complete with Gnome2. Yesterday, I > installed (from scratch) FreeBSD 5.3 on the same machine. The installatio= n > went fine and the machine booted perfectly. When I "sysinstall" to do a > "Post-Installation Configuration", I don't get the option to "Configure t= he > XFree86 Server" or Desktop. So I never get the chance to configure my > monitor or video card or choose Gnome2 as my GUI. >=20 > When I "startx" as root, I get this really clunky lo-res screen with thre= e > windows on it. When I exit that and go back to the prompt, I get a messag= e > saying "fbdev does not exist". >=20 > I've reinstalled about half a dozen times and it's always the same. Can y= ou > please advise me of why I can't get to the point of configuring my monito= r > and card and then select Gnome2 as my GUI? I selected "X-user" when I d= id > the install. As I mentioned above, all worked perfectly under FreeBSD 4.9= . > If there is any another information that I can provide, please let me kno= w. No need to reinstall. Try reading the fine documentation at freebsd.org/handbook or more specific to this problem, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html . --=20 If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:10:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111B316A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:10:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32E343D55 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:10:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4785C8AFFD for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:10:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: 6rdiDUlfLwsM4+bDd60jelV+UYOS3ldZZ4Pl8bHF29bj 1115395856 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-76-239.access.as9105.com [80.41.76.239]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4EF56D31D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:10:56 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:10:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505060941.56312@harrymail> In-Reply-To: <200505060941.56312@harrymail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505061710.29621.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: vfs.usermount and directory owner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:10:59 -0000 On Friday 06 May 2005 08:41, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Hello, > > I want to be able to access my cd drive as normal user. As any user, not a > specific one. So it's a problem that I can't mount it to a general > directory like /cdrom since only one user can be owner and it looks like > it's required that the mountpoint belongs to the user, even with > vfs.usermount=1 set. > > I can't see any security reason for that. If I decide to let users mount > something (with vfs.usermount) why is there an extra check regarding the > owner of the mountpoint? > Is there another sysctl which disables that prerequisite or at least shifts > the check to group instead of user id? I asked a very similar question recently. In the end I added chown $USER /dvd to /usr/local/share/config/kdm/Xstartup. This changes the ownership of the mountpoint in-between logging-in and kde (or whatever session you selected) starting; I expect there is an equivalent script for the other login managers. And if you login through a tty, the fbtab method is what you want. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:14:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5996D16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:14:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A3343D67 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:14:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j46GDcO6054332; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:13:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9AA9261F1; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:13:38 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: iqgrande@asu.edu Message-ID: <20050506161338.GA2279@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <1115387989.427b7855aeb9f@webmail.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1115387989.427b7855aeb9f@webmail.asu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:14:25 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 06:59:49AM -0700, iqgrande@asu.edu wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > I was curious as to why Octave is marked as broken on FreeBSD >=3D 5.X; > specifically, what is causing said breakage? Thanks for the info. AFAICT it isn't broken, at least not on amd64. It compiles normally on if I comment out the following lines in the Makefile: =2Eelse BROKEN=3D "Does not compile on FreeBSD >=3D 5.x" You could try that and see if it works. My system is:=20 FreeBSD slackbox.xs4all.nl 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0:=20 Fri Apr 15 17:37:34 CEST 2005=20 rsmith@slackbox.xs4all.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RFS amd64 A couple of months ago I posted a fix (that has been applied) to unbreak the port on amd64. ATM I cannot not look at portsmon to see what's b0rken; I get timeouts on portsmon.firepipe.net. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCe5eyEnfvsMMhpyURAnPYAKCFQzp9pP7ToscRa6oIDmSLMnOttwCfc/ZE BITq23YGIvodUhrcBkUopf8= =N/b7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:17:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F75716A4D5 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:17:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3C743D31 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:17:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160454BE72; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:14:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <427B98EA.4070009@cordula.ws> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:18:50 +0200 From: cpghost User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050428) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rod Person References: <050520052218.11887.427A9BC30008FD9700002E6F22058891169B0A04030E089C06@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jshamlet@comcast.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the best use for this stuff? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:17:01 -0000 Rod Person wrote: > On Thu, 05 May 2005 18:18:43 -0400, wrote: > >> This machine is currently unused - my wife got tired of a PC in >> every room... :) > > I feel your pain! We have a computer in every room but the Kitchen & > Living Room. You probably have embedded computers there as well (VCR, DVD, TV set, phone, voicemail, microwave...). [And, of course, a toaster running NetBSD :-)] Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:18:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3040016A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:18:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002E343DA9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:18:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C309938917D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:18:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:18:04 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:18:07 -0000 --On Friday, May 06, 2005 01:08:45 PM +0200 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > As I've said, send a DMCA to the owner of the archive (and to other > parties if they have copies). If they don't take down the infringing > material, you can sue. If their ISPs don't cooperate, you can sue them > as well. > >> There should be a law protecting users against this. > > There is: copyright law. But most technical geeks don't know much about > it, so they try to pretend that it doesn't exist. So, if I *respond* to one of his posts (including his email address and at least a portion of what he wrote) and therefore have *some* of his "copyrighted" material in my post then he can request that *my* post be removed *without* my permission? Or he can sue *me* for having included that "copyrighted" material in my post. Do you now see anything wrong with this? Before you start spouting legal advice on a public list, I would suggest that you point to chapter and verse that *specifically* addresses posts made to a public forum that *explicitly* states that such posts will be archived and *explicitly* states that you have the right to request their removal *and* the right to sue if the archiving party refuses to remove them. Furthermore, you must first prove that post made to a public forum are protected by copyright laws. Otherwise you're blowing black clouds of smoke. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:23:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2E416A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:23:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982A243DC4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:23:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A8A3890D1 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:23:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:23:07 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <80CA2A49B1C20FC3EA1E2C30@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050506132709.GA77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506132709.GA77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:23:09 -0000 --On Friday, May 06, 2005 03:27:09 PM +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > > On the page where you subscribe to a mailing list there is a link to the > list archives. The existance to this link implies a public accessible > archive of the list. If you don't like that, don't subscribe. > Or subscribe with a nom de plume. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:30:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E040916A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:30:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653B843D31 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:30:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j46GU2X2017703; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:30:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:30:02 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Clement Twine Message-ID: <20050506163001.GE49336@dan.emsphone.com> References: <427B8DCC.6090703@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427B8DCC.6090703@gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: timestamps/datestamps in history output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:30:04 -0000 In the last episode (May 06), Clement Twine said: > does anyone know how the "history" output can display > date/timestamps? If you use zsh, run "history -i". If you want timestamps in your ~/.history file as well, add "setopt extendedhistory" to your zsh startup script. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:35:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472CC16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:35:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FFB43D7C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:35:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9952 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU5nL-000Cgk-Gj; Fri, 06 May 2005 16:35:19 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A1328400A; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:37:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from amandla.scii.nl (82-197-199-160.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.199.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DC258CC1F; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:35:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:35:18 +0200 From: albi To: "Noah" Message-Id: <20050506183518.10e98ffa.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050506160159.M53727@enabled.com> References: <20050506160159.M53727@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.9 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nagios config menu does not reappear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:35:21 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2005 08:01:59 -0800 "Noah" wrote: > FreeBSD-4.11-p3 > nagios-2.0b3 > > I am attmepting to reinstall nagios-2.0b3 from /usr/ports. and cant seem to > figure out how to get the configuration option window back again > before building. > > 'make clean' does not work > > and > > 'rm -rf /var/db/ports/nagios/*' did not remove any relevant configuration files. if i were i would try : *) rm -rf /var/db/ports/nagios *) make deinstall clean distclean *) pkg_info -L nagios* | less and see whether there's something else left behind after make deinstall or pkg_delete nagios* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:02:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 0081D16A4D6; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050506170200.0081D16A4D6@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:02:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 0784D16A4D7; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050506170201.0784D16A4D7@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:04:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CC716A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:04:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AEC43D7C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:04:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F105222405 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01748-19 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [204.26.70.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542E0222404 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:04:10 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1173870.u2mmlotIfr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:04:35 -0000 --nextPart1173870.u2mmlotIfr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 06 May 2005 05:52, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > DMCA So, how's that working out for you with non-US third-party mirrors that=20 aren't subject to American law in any way? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1173870.u2mmlotIfr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBCe6OW5sRg+Y0CpvERAt3VAJ9AFclguDbOJgUVu3qoIeNezq6NtACgiCdx lmQ3rlqYRnJ+FzoKdIqpCZY= =L8YY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1173870.u2mmlotIfr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:05:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A9116A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:05:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1C443D96 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46H4xSK014130 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:05:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5707C61F1; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:04:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:04:59 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506170459.GB2279@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <1115387989.427b7855aeb9f@webmail.asu.edu> <427B7E15.8060100@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427B7E15.8060100@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: Octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:05:09 -0000 --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 09:24:21AM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > iqgrande@asu.edu wrote: >=20 > >Hello all, > > > >I was curious as to why Octave is marked as broken on FreeBSD >=3D 5.X;= =20 > >specifically, what is causing said breakage? Thanks for the info. > > > >-Anthony > >=20 > > >=20 > You might be able to track it down over at http://pointyhat.freebsd.org .= .. Hmm. It fails to build a package on i386 because tar can't find some .oct files.=20 Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCe6O7EnfvsMMhpyURAjzWAKCZQZm2lOioRHOluFvM7lyg66dTDgCfbtln DqEIMc1lxv/ZyIbvYHSTdJI= =OAcf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:12:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E29B16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:12:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937F843D60 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:12:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6669340 for multiple; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:08:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8c5c50796cc8d970c6b9c7089b273462@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:11:56 -0400 To: Kirk Strauser X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:12:11 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 1:04 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Friday 06 May 2005 05:52, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> DMCA > > So, how's that working out for you with non-US third-party mirrors that > aren't subject to American law in any way? Give it time... With what seems to be growing acceptance of censorship over time and the gradual spreading of those attitudes, coupled with the US's leaning on other countries to adopt "corporate friendly" laws, I think that there may be growing interest in the future in those projects that create a "freenet"-like underbelly to the Internet. But that's just my prediction From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:23:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD8E16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:23:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.5.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CDB43D1D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:23:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aj38jx385@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from moe.howard (6532128hfc43.tampabay.res.rr.com [65.32.128.43]) j46HN6pp015751 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moe.howard (localhost.howard [127.0.0.1]) by moe.howard (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j46BRiq5001360 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:27:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aj38jx385@tampabay.rr.com) Received: (from walter@localhost) by moe.howard (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j46BRhEC001359 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:27:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aj38jx385@tampabay.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: moe.howard: walter set sender to aj38jx385@tampabay.rr.com using -f Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:27:43 -0400 From: Al Johnsonn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506112743.GA878@bhunter.net> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:23:09 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 12:52:26PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > You hold a copyright on your posts, so you can force them to be taken > off the Net with a DMCA notification. This advice is more ridiculous than telling him to put aerosol spray back into a can. A little common sense _before_ posting is the solution. ---- "Then the wolf threw Little Red Riding Hood on the bed and he ate her." --Little Red Riding Hood, The Grimm Brothers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:52:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CCA16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:52:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4092843D66 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:52:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul_s_keyes@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 40332 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 17:52:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20050506175218.40330.qmail@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.173.68.207] by web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:52:18 EDT Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:52:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Keyes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: starting mysql server automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:52:19 -0000 Hi All, I'm setting up a server running Freebsd 5.3 I have mysql running well but I can't seem to get it to start automatically at boot time. I can only start it as root with the command: mysqld_safe --user=mysql & (when I do this everything works fine) I tried installing the mysql.server sript as: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql.server.sh but when I try to run it manually I get this: ./mysql.server.sh: 102: Syntax error: Bad for loop variable What is the best way to get the mysql server running automatically when the computer boots? Thanks, Paul ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:03:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53D516A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:03:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8692D43DA0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:03:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j46I3jJF013710; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j46I3jon013709; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:03:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200505061803.j46I3jon013709@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: paul_s_keyes@yahoo.ca (Paul Keyes) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:03:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20050506175218.40330.qmail@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting mysql server automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:03:46 -0000 > > Hi All, > > I'm setting up a server running Freebsd 5.3 I have > mysql running well but I can't seem to get it to start > automatically at boot time. I can only start it as > root with the command: > mysqld_safe --user=mysql & > > (when I do this everything works fine) > > I tried installing the mysql.server sript as: > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql.server.sh > but when I try to run it manually I get this: > ./mysql.server.sh: 102: Syntax error: Bad for loop > variable > > What is the best way to get the mysql server running > automatically when the computer boots? Well, you probably will have to fix the for loop problem You may have to set a variable in your rc.conf or earlier in the mysql.server.sh. Usually that script works just fine so, either something got changed, something is in a differnt than usual place or some value didn't get set where it needs to be. It is hard to guess without seeing stuff and tinking with it. Probably there is only one for loop, so take a look at it and see what variable it is trying to use. Put some echo's in the startup script to find out where it is barfing if you need. ////jerry > > Thanks, > Paul > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:14:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1923616A4D4; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:14:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C022A43D9B; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:14:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j46IE42Q076361; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:14:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:14:04 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-ID: <20050506181404.GG49336@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050506125729.DF5D94BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506125729.DF5D94BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:14:05 -0000 In the last episode (May 06), Fafa Hafiz Krantz said: > For you all meticulous cats out there, here's how I hope that > FreeBSD's dmesg one day can look like. This is merely a > beautification that would make more people go "wow, cool" and it > doesn't deprive FreeBSD of its UNIX heritage. > > Perhaps someone out there can help me implement these changes? I have > a lot more suggestions for ASCII redesigns, so let me know! > > ata0: Attached to port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 > ata1: Attached to port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 > atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042), at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 It's easy enough to change the format string in subr_bus.c:device_print_prettyname() to pad out the devicename. However, you may prefer to just put up a splash screen (see the splash manpage), so the user doesn't even see the kernel messages at all. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:15:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A91216A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:15:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B58243D98 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:15:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1011322wri for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 11:15:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=X5AoMqIV1ThdHuujyhZ82x75zQ/meBxsjmfDaF/5Yfy2UW8e+C4cLinUq2WrnsHxgn0O8VAUtVs8zbuK+VvNqNMu2/XUjnIAd5zGbl20+CqF+d4PsgW9ipG8UeDS/X7ej9/Pm6S9DVuK6FN4fiZzCW30cxJZ9nObdFj92/Q7w/A= Received: by 10.54.11.42 with SMTP id 42mr963454wrk; Fri, 06 May 2005 11:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.4 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e10486b0505061115456b7bb4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:15:24 -0300 From: Alexandre Biancalana To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: postgresql 8 abort with signal 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexandre Biancalana List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:15:25 -0000 Hi list, I'm running postgresql 8.0.1 on FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE, the machine is and AMD Sempron 2.2, 1GB Ram.. I use postgresql as database for dspam, an spam classification program. This database have and moderated use, on averange 20 simultaneous conections executing relative big queries using "in" clausule. Watching postgresql logs I see the following messages ocurs a lot of times in a day: May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[250]: [21-1] LOG: server process (PID 59608) was terminated by signal 10 May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[250]: [22-1] LOG: terminating any other active server processes May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59605]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59605]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59605]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59605]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59607]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59607]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59607]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59607]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59606]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59606]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59606]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59606]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59626]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59626]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59626]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59626]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59628]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59629]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59629]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59629]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59629]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59628]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59628]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59628]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59609]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59609]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59609]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59609]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59627]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59627]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59627]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:44 e-filter postgres[59627]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:45 e-filter postgres[69093]: [23-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:45 e-filter postgres[69093]: [23-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:45 e-filter postgres[69093]: [23-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:45 e-filter postgres[69093]: [23-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:45 e-filter postgres[59620]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59620]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59620]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59620]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59619]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59619]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59619]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59619]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59624]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59624]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59624]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59624]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59623]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59623]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59623]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59623]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59625]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59625]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59625]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59625]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59622]: [21-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59622]: [21-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59622]: [21-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59622]: [21-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 06:58:46 e-filter postgres[59621]: [22-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 06:58:49 e-filter postgres[250]: [23-1] LOG: all server processes terminated; reinitializing May 3 06:58:51 e-filter postgres[13478]: [24-1] LOG: database system was interrupted at 2005-05-03 06:58:16 EST May 3 06:58:51 e-filter postgres[13478]: [25-1] LOG: checkpoint record is at 14/99F69378 May 3 06:58:51 e-filter postgres[13478]: [26-1] LOG: redo record is at 14/99F69378; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown FALSE May 3 06:58:51 e-filter postgres[13478]: [27-1] LOG: next transaction ID: 3639687; next OID: 388415 May 3 06:58:51 e-filter postgres[13478]: [28-1] LOG: database system was not properly shut down; automatic recovery in progress May 3 06:58:51 e-filter postgres[13478]: [29-1] LOG: redo starts at 14/99F693B4 May 3 06:58:53 e-filter postgres[13478]: [30-1] LOG: record with zero length at 14/9AE223F0 May 3 06:58:53 e-filter postgres[13478]: [31-1] LOG: redo done at 14/9AE2= 23C8 May 3 06:58:54 e-filter postgres[13484]: [24-1] FATAL: the database system is starting up May 3 06:58:54 e-filter postgres[13485]: [24-1] FATAL: the database system is starting up May 3 06:58:55 e-filter postgres[13488]: [24-1] FATAL: the database system is starting up May 3 06:58:57 e-filter postgres[13478]: [32-1] LOG: database system is r= eady and some time latter its ocur again: May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[250]: [24-1] LOG: server process (PID 34743) was terminated by signal 10 May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[250]: [25-1] LOG: terminating any other active server processes May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[35215]: [24-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[35215]: [24-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[35215]: [24-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[35215]: [24-4] HINT: In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and repeat your command. May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[34744]: [24-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[34744]: [24-2] DETAIL: The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back the current transaction and exit, because another server May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[33592]: [24-1] WARNING: terminating connection because of crash of another server process May 3 09:59:38 e-filter postgres[34744]: [24-3] process exited abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory. This is my postgresql.conf max_connections =3D 70 superuser_reserved_connections =3D 2 shared_buffers =3D 32768 work_mem =3D 10240 maintenance_work_mem =3D 51200 fsync =3D true checkpoint_segments =3D 8 effective_cache_size =3D 100000 log_destination =3D 'syslog' silent_mode =3D true lc_messages =3D 'C' lc_monetary =3D 'C' lc_numeric =3D 'C' lc_time =3D 'C' and the shared memory configuration: kern.ipc.shmmax: 700000000 kern.ipc.shmmin: 1 kern.ipc.shmmni: 192 kern.ipc.shmseg: 256 kern.ipc.shmall: 700000000 I already asked this in postgresql-general list and no solutions was reach, the people from there say that is not a postgresql problem, that should be and hardware or SO problem..... Any ideas ? Any thoughts ? Best Regards, Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:27:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186AA16A4D4; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:27:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE7543D39; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:27:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j46IQfht009166; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:26:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:26:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20050506.122641.78716734.imp@bsdimp.com> To: dnelson@allantgroup.com From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20050506181404.GG49336@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050506125729.DF5D94BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506181404.GG49336@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: fteg@london.com Subject: Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:27:53 -0000 From: Dan Nelson Subject: Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:14:04 -0500 > In the last episode (May 06), Fafa Hafiz Krantz said: > > For you all meticulous cats out there, here's how I hope that > > FreeBSD's dmesg one day can look like. This is merely a > > beautification that would make more people go "wow, cool" and it > > doesn't deprive FreeBSD of its UNIX heritage. > > > > Perhaps someone out there can help me implement these changes? I have > > a lot more suggestions for ASCII redesigns, so let me know! > > > > ata0: Attached to port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 > > ata1: Attached to port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 > > atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042), at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 > > It's easy enough to change the format string in > subr_bus.c:device_print_prettyname() to pad out the devicename. > However, you may prefer to just put up a splash screen (see the splash > manpage), so the user doesn't even see the kernel messages at all. Many of his suggestions are subtle changes to the probe messages in addition to the format string. Warner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:35:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDB716A52F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:35:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B455143D9D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:35:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D84AE1C000B9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:35:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B25A21C00095 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:35:38 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506183538730.B25A21C00095@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:35:38 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1305875013.20050506203538@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:35:40 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > A) You sent messages to unknown hundreds or thousands of people on the > mailing list, all of which could have a cached copy of your messages, > and now wonder about privacy? I've explained the differences before; perhaps I need to explain them again. When you sign up to a mailing list, you implicitly give permission to distribute your posts to other members of the list. You do _not_ give permission to have your posts archived, and you do _not_ give permission to have your posts published and made accessible to people who are not on the list. > B) The archives are searchable and referenced, and you claim you didn't > know that despite the number of self appointed upper-echelons that > reply with a curt "Look in the archives" type answer? It has to be part of the confirmation process. You have to require that members accept these terms in order to subscribe. Do you really think that software companies and major Web sites have those little check boxes that say "I accept" just for decoration? > C) Your words are being re-mirrored by being embedded inside other > posts that REPLY to your messages. You honestly think that a volunteer > is going to delete your messages AND all messages referencing your > name? You don't need a volunteer, you just need software to do it. And it's not hard to write. > There should be. We'll call it The Law of Common Sense. The law of common sense says that you don't agree to anything that isn't in writing and does not proceed _inevitably_ from that to which you agree. Archives and publication are not inevitable consequences of being on a mailing list, therefore you must agree to them explicitly. > None on the list that I know of is actively digging into your > background or prying more secrets from you regarding your personal > information ... What makes you think they would notify you if they were? > The way the Internet works isn't a secret. This policy is not "the way the Internet works." -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:42:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479BD16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp10.wanadoo.fr (smtp10.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D1543D88 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1009.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AFA1B2800129 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:42:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1009.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 853A02800121 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:42:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506184229545.853A02800121@mwinf1009.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:42:29 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:42:31 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > Yeah, cuz, we wouldn't want the archives to be referenced for people > who are looking for help on topics, after all. Do you think that subscribers would refuse to grant permission to have their posts archived? If so, doesn't that say something to you about archiving posts without their permission? > Do they need to issue a specific list of "what to do" when using > FreeBSD or interacting with the community? Yes, legally. If you don't tell them, it's not their responsibility. And if you do things for which you need permission without asking for and obtaining permission, it's your responsibility. > And how many people would actually follow it ANYWAY? It doesn't matter. It's a question of protecting oneself legally. > Most don't even read the @#%# EULA on the software they install > on their home computer. Nevertheless, they agree to be bound by it when they check the little box that says "I accept." > Most users out there still think they OWN their operating system ... Some people think that they own any messages posted on their servers. > How about people use common sense before joining lists and posting to > them, and take some responsibility for the things they do? Common sense says that when you subscribe to a list, your posts are seen only by other people on the list, not by the entire world. > It's certainly no secret that these posts are archived out there ... It doesn't have to be a secret; subscribers must still agree to it. It's no secret that software is copyrighted; however, software companies still force users to accept a EULA so that they cannot claim that they didn't know they were licensing copyrighted material. It's no secret that most computer systems are not open to everyone; however, sysadmins (at least those who know what they are doing) still must put messages in login procedures that advise users of the restricted character of access to the system. Otherwise intruders could say that they didn't know access was restricted. > Better yet start > some arguments with the governments and businesses that are video > taping people with security cameras on street corners and inside > stores. Many jurisdictions require that persons on private property be apprised of any video recording, precisely because of the privacy implications. Persons attending a concert that is being videotaped also must be apprised of this on their tickets; their consent to recording cannot necessarily be presumed. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:43:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA8916A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:43:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp10.wanadoo.fr (smtp10.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DBD43D60 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1002.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 410662400090 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1002.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 27ED8240008F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:43:35 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506184335163.27ED8240008F@mwinf1002.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:43:34 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1171865367.20050506204334@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050506132709.GA77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506132709.GA77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:43:36 -0000 Roland Smith writes: > On the page where you subscribe to a mailing list there is a link to the > list archives. The existance to this link implies a public accessible > archive of the list. If you don't like that, don't subscribe. You cannot be sure that subscribers have read it unless you require them to take explicit action to confirm that they have read it. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:44:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD82616A4D6 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:44:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp10.wanadoo.fr (smtp10.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D08843D94 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:44:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1002.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B9E11240009A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1002.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A1A6A2400093 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:44:40 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506184440662.A1A6A2400093@mwinf1002.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:44:40 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:44:41 -0000 Roland Smith writes: > Subscribing to a list means that you give permission for your messages > to be sent to all subscribers. Any one of those could save the messages, > creating an archive. So posting to the list implies permission for > archival. It doesn't give permission to make the archive publicly accessible. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:48:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E888216A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:48:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp10.wanadoo.fr (smtp10.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72B043D93 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1001.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DE6D6180009E for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:48:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1001.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B0401180008B for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:48:15 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506184815722.B0401180008B@mwinf1001.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:48:14 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:48:17 -0000 Paul Schmehl writes: > So, if I *respond* to one of his posts (including his email address and at > least a portion of what he wrote) and therefore have *some* of his > "copyrighted" material in my post then he can request that *my* post be > removed *without* my permission? Not if your backquoting falls within the scope of "fair use," if you are in the U.S. In some other countries, he can require that you remove the backquotes from your post (but you don't need to remove your entire post). And if you backquote too much, it's infringement, not fair use, even in the U.S. > Do you now see anything wrong with this? No. It actually happens. > Before you start spouting legal advice on a public list, I would suggest > that you point to chapter and verse that *specifically* addresses posts > made to a public forum that *explicitly* states that such posts will be > archived and *explicitly* states that you have the right to request their > removal *and* the right to sue if the archiving party refuses to remove > them. Furthermore, you must first prove that post made to a public forum > are protected by copyright laws. Any creative work fixed in a tangible medium is protected by copyright by default. Any form of reproduction of a copyrighted work requires the permission of its creator, _except_ as otherwise provided by law. That's the way the law is written. No exceptions are made for archival of mailing lists in publicly accessible archives (nor for any other use of messages to mailing lists, AFAIK). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:49:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E2F16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:49:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B1D43DA8 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:49:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 679E41C000AB for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:49:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4E5CF1C000A4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:49:40 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506184940321.4E5CF1C000A4@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:49:26 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1613098307.20050506204926@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:49:41 -0000 Kirk Strauser writes: > So, how's that working out for you with non-US third-party mirrors that > aren't subject to American law in any way? The DMCA cannot be used against them directly, but if their traffic transits through servers or networks in the U.S., you can go after the U.S. providers. It's more complicated than the simple case of notifying the infringing site directly. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:50:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C68F16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:50:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13AF43D5A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:50:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-27-94-59.san.res.rr.com [66.27.94.59]) (authenticated bits=0)j46IoI0o016758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 6 May 2005 11:50:19 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050506114532.1e70dbd0@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Sender: glenn@cobalt.antimatter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:49:48 -0700 To: Brian McCann From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <2b5f066d05050605155071dcd1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2b5f066d050505072671fff21b@mail.gmail.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20050505104409.1d581b30@cobalt.antimatter.net> <2b5f066d05050605155071dcd1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: netgraph & netflow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:50:21 -0000 At 05:15 AM 5/6/2005, Brian McCann wrote: >That did the trick I think. I'll know after an hour or so of "real" >traffic going through it. It at least helped me understand it a lot >better. Excellent. One quick note to clarify things a little. According to Cisco's documentation on netflow, when it's enabled on an interface it only counts inbound traffic. If you want to count traffic going in two directions, you have to enable it on two interfaces, which is why (I assume) the examples in the man page are the way they are. -Glenn >Thanks! >--Brian > >On 5/5/05, Glenn Dawson wrote: > > At 07:26 AM 5/5/2005, you wrote: > > >Hi all. I'm trying to get ng_netflow to work, and I'm having a heck > > >of a time doing so. So if anyone can shed some light on my problem, > > >please do so. I've tried multiple configurations, and can't get it to > > >work right. I can only get it to see traffic in one direction (for > > >example, flows from other PCs to the server. Flows starting from the > > >server started by something like fetch or ssh don't show up as > > >sourcing from the server). Here is the config that I thought would do > > >that, but it's not. > > > > > >mkpeer fxp1: tee lower right > > >connect fxp1: fxp1:lower upper left > > >mkpeer fxp1:lower netflow left2right iface0 > > >name fxp1:lower.left2right fxp1_netflow > > >msg fxp1_netflow: setifindex { iface=0 index=5 } > > >mkpeer fxp1_netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp > > >msg fxp1_netflow:export connect inet/127.0.0.1:9800 > > > > > >Using this, when I run flowctl, it shows the source interface as ppp0 > > >and sometimes sl0, which isn't even connected, and a dest interface of > > >fxp1. If I switch all the "left2right"s with "right2left"s, I get > > >only flows going to the server...so after reading how the tee in > > >netgraph works, I assumed if I switched it, it would show the other > > >direction. > > > > Try this...I've used it to catch flows in both directions for an em > > interface....you can probably tweak it to work in your situation... > > > > mkpeer em0: tee lower right > > connect em0: em0:lower upper left > > name em0:lower em0_tee > > mkpeer em0_tee: netflow left2right iface0 > > name em0:lower.left2right netflow > > connect em0_tee: netflow: right2left iface1 > > msg netflow: setifindex { iface=0 index=2 } > > msg netflow: setifindex { iface=1 index=1 } > > mkpeer netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp > > msg netflow:export connect inet/x.x.x.x:4444 > > > > -Glenn > > > > >Any thoughts, suggestions? > > >Thanks, > > >--Brian > > > > > >-- > > >_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ > > >Brian McCann > > >Systems & Network Administrator, K12USA > > > > > >"I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of > > >people waiting to abuse me." > > > -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > >-- >_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ >Brian McCann >Systems & Network Administrator, K12USA > >"I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of >people waiting to abuse me." > -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:50:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0259E16A4E0 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:50:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B813A43D9A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:50:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DA2211C000BD for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:50:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C22361C000B1 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:50:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506185025795.C22361C000B1@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:50:25 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1277052087.20050506205025@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050506112743.GA878@bhunter.net> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> <20050506112743.GA878@bhunter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:50:27 -0000 Al Johnsonn writes: > This advice is more ridiculous than telling him to put aerosol spray back > into a can. Where's the flaw in it? That's what the DMCA is for. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:04:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD97016A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:04:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853A743D9B for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:04:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 092ED153882; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:04:48 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:04:47 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506190447.GB9865@tikitechnologies.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> <1613098307.20050506204926@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1613098307.20050506204926@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:04:48 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:49:26PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kirk Strauser writes: > > > So, how's that working out for you with non-US third-party mirrors that > > aren't subject to American law in any way? > > The DMCA cannot be used against them directly, but if their traffic > transits through servers or networks in the U.S., you can go after the > U.S. providers. It's more complicated than the simple case of notifying > the infringing site directly. You are obviously not that familiar with the DMCA. There are specific safe-harbor provisions for ISPs and networks which are merely transiting and/or caching traffic. I have to believe you've never actually implemented any of the strategies and claims you're pontificating about. Of course, the best way to ensure you don't look bad in Google is to try hard to post only intelligent questions and comments to mailing lists - for example, by searching web archives of the mailing list or employing common sense - and to post intelligent answers when you have them. Not acting like a buffoon will go a long way on the Net. Of course that may be just too hard for a few people. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@tikitechnologies.com Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect "I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide..." -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:10:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0625F16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:10:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F4043DAF for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:10:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804F934DA11 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5135134D435 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:10:58 -0700 From: John Pettitt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: by skipjack Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:10:59 -0000 This news just in: Fafa Hafiz Krantz a research designer at Barbershop in Norway ( http://www.home.no/barbershop ) has asked that his posts be removed for all the archives of several public email lists. The request sparked a heated debate over the issue of copyright on email lists and raised interesting questions about specifically opting in to having posts archived. As is typical in such debates few of the participants cited any real evidence backing up their views and almost no attention was paid to the jurisdictional issues created by international lists. There was speculation that the request for deletion was prompted by the posters political views as referenced in his email signature which points to an article about middle east politics http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf With the debate he started Mr Krantz seems to have had ensured that his name will live in archives for the foreseeable future, referenced in articles such as this one which he has no copyright to and no control over. In the end the best strategy seems to be: if you don't want to be quoted don't say anything. --END-- This news item may be archived and reposted in any medium without limitation including on search engines. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:11:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C7316A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:11:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D2343D62 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:11:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 255281C000B2 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:11:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D19111C000AF for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:11:07 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506191107860.D19111C000AF@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:11:07 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1889363326.20050506211107@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050506190447.GB9865@tikitechnologies.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> <1613098307.20050506204926@wanadoo.fr> <20050506190447.GB9865@tikitechnologies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:11:09 -0000 Clifton Royston writes: > There are specific safe-harbor provisions for ISPs and > networks which are merely transiting and/or caching traffic. Hmm ... yes, my mistake, provided that nothing is actually stored on the networks in question. > I have to believe you've never actually implemented any of the > strategies and claims you're pontificating about. I haven't sent out any DMCAs thus far. > Of course, the best way to ensure you don't look bad in Google is to > try hard to post only intelligent questions and comments to mailing > lists - for example, by searching web archives of the mailing list or > employing common sense - and to post intelligent answers when you have > them. Not acting like a buffoon will go a long way on the Net. Of > course that may be just too hard for a few people. The only thing one really needs to avoid is personal attacks. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:20:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEEE16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:20:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D1543DA8 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:20:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])EFBE31800220 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:20:22 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 6 May 2005 19:20:22 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A45F64BEAE; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:20:22 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:20:22 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Warner Losh" , dnelson@allantgroup.com Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:20:22 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050506192022.A45F64BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:20:23 -0000 Hello Mr. Nelson and Mr. Losh! > It's easy enough to change the format string in > subr_bus.c:device_print_prettyname() to pad out the devicename. I am not qualified to do this. I wish I were. How about you guys? :) =20 > However, you may prefer to just put up a splash screen (see the=20 > splash manpage), so the user doesn't even see the kernel messages > at all. We can't just forget about it and pray for it to go away. This is an aesthetic violation to FreeBSD's professional image, that is considered to be more important now than ever. Now that we have logo and website design competitions going to completely revamp of the FreeBSD of the 70s, perhaps it's also time to update the ASCII design of this system? > Many of his suggestions are subtle changes to the probe messages in > addition to the format string. >=20 > Warner Indeed they are subtle. But it's more like removing zits. With laser or whatever. :) -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:30:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD03216A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:30:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C02D43D6A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:30:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EBE34DA11; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E31D34D435; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427BC5D3.8090202@cloudview.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:30:27 -0700 From: John Pettitt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050506192022.A45F64BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050506192022.A45F64BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: by skipjack cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:30:31 -0000 Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: [another message] Dude, you asked for your posts to be deleted why are you posting more stuff you know is going to get archived? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:40:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B37716A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:40:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FD343D7D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:40:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) X-ORBL: [64.108.40.225] Received: from jacob.6texans.net (adsl-64-108-40-225.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net [64.108.40.225])j46JeDnb167692 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:40:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:40:13 -0500 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506144013.77cd786d@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <427BC5D3.8090202@cloudview.com> References: <20050506192022.A45F64BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <427BC5D3.8090202@cloudview.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:40:15 -0000 On Fri, 06 May 2005 12:30:27 -0700 John Pettitt wrote: > > > Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > [another message] > > Dude, you asked for your posts to be deleted why are you posting more > stuff you know is going to get archived? Because he found a way to spam his political viewpoint linked in his sig, without people accusing him of spamming. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:53:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6988416A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:53:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B78C43DA9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:53:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D193C389023 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:53:16 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:53:20 -0000 --On Friday, May 06, 2005 08:48:14 PM +0200 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> So, if I *respond* to one of his posts (including his email address and >> at least a portion of what he wrote) and therefore have *some* of his >> "copyrighted" material in my post then he can request that *my* post be >> removed *without* my permission? > > Not if your backquoting falls within the scope of "fair use," Here's a webpage that makes your arguments laughable: It's a mailing list to discuss digital copyright. Its archives are searchable, and there's no requirement to agree to that when you subscribe. This one is even funnier: Searchable archives going back to 1997. You *still* haven't provided *one* link to prove anything you've said. On the Internet, that's tantamount to an admission that you're blowing smoke. I doubt seriously your *extremely* strict interpretation of copyright would hold up in any court of law in the US or anywhere else for that matter. I have no doubt that you could find a judge somewhere to rule in your favor. After all, judges make incredibly stupid rulings daily. But in the end, your argument would fall on deaf ears when saner minds were engaged. When you post to a public list, your post are not copyrighted material. They exist in the public domain. And *this* list *is* a public forum. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 20:39:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBD816A4D8 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:39:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED7E43DA4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:39:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 14211 invoked from network); 6 May 2005 20:39:48 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 May 2005 20:39:48 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7690F2F; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: ravi References: <427A423E.30803@exitleft.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 06 May 2005 16:39:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <427A423E.30803@exitleft.org> Message-ID: <44ll6sdr71.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.9-RELEASE Xorg switch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 20:39:49 -0000 ravi writes: > i looked at the 20040723 entry again, but there is nothing more to do > (in my case) listed there. also 20040723 gives instructions for 5.x, > FreeBSD-current, -stable and older -current, but doesn't explicitly > mention -release (which is what i run). 4.x was the -STABLE branch at the time of that entry. You are running 4.9, which was a release from the -STABLE branch. Just follow the advice that entry gives for -stable and you'll be fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 20:40:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C72A16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:40:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69B043D9A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@tjstephens.com) Received: from yuri.tjstephens.com ([82.41.217.175]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 6 May 2005 21:41:00 +0100 Received: by yuri.tjstephens.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id CCB963FC; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:40:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:40:20 +0100 From: Tim Stephens To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506204020.GA29029@tjstephens.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2005 20:41:00.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9C62860:01C5527B] Subject: Qpopper Configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mail@tjstephens.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 20:40:23 -0000 Dear List, I'm trying to set up my pop server. I got it working in the past, but I've since changed my mail configuration. Mail is forwarded by procmail into a mbox in my home directory $HOME/Mail/newmail. I've set the MAIL environment variable to the path to this directory. I set up qpopper in inetd, and it responds when I telnet into port 110 or 995. When I try to use another machine to collect mail from the server, I can see the messages that pass in the log (see below). Here's the log from one of the attempts: May 6 21:30:46 yuri qpopper[29085]: (v4.0.5) TLSv1/SSLv3 handshake with client at hostname (192.168.1.100); new session-id; cipher: RC4-SHA (RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1), 128 bits May 6 21:30:47 yuri qpopper[29085]: username at hostname (192.168.1.100): -ERR [SYS/TEMP] POP authentication DB not available (user username): No such file or directory (2) May 6 21:30:47 yuri qpopper[29086]: (v4.0.5) TLSv1/SSLv3 handshake with client at hostname (192.168.1.100); new session-id; cipher: RC4-SHA (RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1), 128 bits May 6 21:30:47 yuri qpopper[29086]: Stats: username 0 0 0 0 hostname xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Can anyone give me some pointers. I think that the problem is that qpopper doesn't know where my maildrop is. I can't seem to be able to work out where to tell qpopper where to look. Cheers, Tim -- mail@tjstephens.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 20:48:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4084B16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:48:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.blarg.net (electric.blarg.net [206.124.128.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F091B43D1F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:48:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from allanb@u.washington.edu) Received: from mail.blarg.net (localhost.drteeth.p.blarg.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1D8F3A38 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kosmos.my.net (c-67-170-10-15.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.170.10.15]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FE8F3957 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kosmos.my.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kosmos.my.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j46KkHTq000785 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:48:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@kosmos.my.net) Received: (from kosmos@localhost) by kosmos.my.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j46KkGVi000784 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:45:01 -0700 From: Allan Bowhill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506204501.GA656@kosmos.my.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline X-URL: http://www.blarg.net/~abowhill/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-BlargAV-Status: No viruses detected, BlargAV v1.1 on localhost.drteeth.p.blarg.net Subject: Kernel panic on keyboard-interaction with rc.local and ACPI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 20:48:41 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My apologies in advance for the length of this email. I recently updated my 5.4 system after security notices, and I'm getting a= =20 kernel panic when I interact on the keyboard with a rc.local script.=20 Disabling ACPI makes the problem go away, but I am on a laptop so I think I want ACPI on. The shell script is something I wrote/mooched/hacked that allows me to sele= ct a=20 wifi station to login to during boot time. The machine is a laptop: Dell= =20 Inspiron 1150. It's probably bad form to have an interactive script on boot, but anyway...=20 here is the rc.local script: =3D=3D=20 run_it () { case "${AUTO_RUN}" in '') unset YES_OR_NO echo '' echo -n ' Connect to' echo '' echo -n ' 1.) Wifi 1' echo '' echo -n ' 2.) Wifi 2' echo '' echo -n ' [Default: Wifi 2] ? 1, 2, [Enter]' echo '' read YES_OR_NO case "${YES_OR_NO}" in 1) echo " logging into Wifi 1 using card ${1}" echo '' eval "echo ifconfig Wifi 1" echo '' ;; ''|2) echo " logging into Wifi 2 using card ${1}" echo '' eval "echo ifconfig Wifi 2" echo '' ;; *) echo '' echo " Invalid selection for command ${1}" echo '' echo " Make sure to run ${1} yourself" echo '' esac ;; *) ;; esac } run_it "ath0" dhclient "ath0" =3D=3D The kernel boots fine, and gets to the point where rc.local runs: Connect to: 1) Wifi station 1 2) Wifi station 2 When I hit a key, I get the following message (entered by hand here): Fatal Trap 12 page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address: 0x7408a85c fault code: supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer: 0x8: 0x7408a85c stack pointer: 0x10: 0xcbc60c94 frame pointer: 0x10: 0xcbc60c94 code segment: base 0x0 limit 0xffff type 0x16=20 DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags: interrupt enabled, resume IOPL=3D0 current process: 13 (irq1: atkbd0) trap number: 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 36s =20 Cannot dump. no demp device defined. (The above is the first attempt. I was able later to get a crashdump, and r= ecompiled the kernel with=20 debug on so the message above is in a slightly different environment than w= hat the crash dump saw) In the crash dump, and it kind of looks like the kernel can't create a thre= ad to handle a=20 keyboard interrupt for some reason.=20 atkbd_intr() in /usr/src/sys/dev/kbd/atkbd.c gets a null argument for kbd, = which it tries to=20 dereference: 453 atkbd_intr(keyboard_t *kbd, void *arg) 454 { (kgdb)=20 455 atkbd_state_t *state; 456 int delay[2]; 457 int c; 458 459 if (KBD_IS_ACTIVE(kbd) && KBD_IS_BUSY(kbd)) { 460 /* let the callback function to process the input */ 461 (*kbd->kb_callback.kc_func)(kbd, KBDIO_KEYINPUT, 462 kbd->kb_callback.kc_arg= ); 463 } else { It gets this from atkbd_isa_intr() in /usr/src/sys/isa/atkbd_isa.c static void atkbd_isa_intr(void *arg) { keyboard_t *kbd; =20 kbd =3D (keyboard_t *)arg; <-- null void pointer = cast as keyboard_t * (*kbdsw[kbd->kb_index]->intr)(kbd, NULL); } Which, in turn gets the null pointer from a critical section in an interrup= t thread handler in kern_intr.c. But, there I am lost :) I can provide more info if needed, given that I can keep the machine runnin= g... --Allan Bowhill [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so:= Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition= s. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd". #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:160 160 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=3Dr" (td)); (kgdb) where #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:160 #1 0xc0665172 in boot (howto=3D260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:4= 10 #2 0xc0665479 in panic (fmt=3D0xc08a0119 "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_s= hutdown.c:566 #3 0xc085566d in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xcbc60c34, eva=3D0) at /usr/src/sys/= i386/i386/trap.c:817 #4 0xc0855390 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xcbc60c34, usermode=3D0, eva=3D1946= 724444) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:735 #5 0xc0854f5c in trap (frame=3D {tf_fs =3D 24, tf_es =3D 16, tf_ds =3D -1066991600, tf_edi =3D 13, tf= _esi =3D -1063617632, tf_ebp =3D -876213100, tf_isp =3D -876213152, tf_ebx = =3D -1050240512, tf_edx =3D -1066827385, tf_ecx =3D -1063864572, tf_eax =3D= 13, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0, tf_eip =3D 1946724444, tf_cs =3D 8, tf= _eflags =3D 66050, tf_esp =3D -1065129891, tf_ss =3D 13}) at /usr/src/sys/i= 386/i386/trap.c:425 #6 0xc084317a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:140 #7 0x00000018 in ?? () #8 0x00000010 in ?? () #9 0xc0670010 in thr_create (td=3D0xc09a7ba0, uap=3D0x0) at /usr/src/sys/k= ern/kern_thr.c:160 #10 0xc082659e in atkbd_intr (kbd=3D0xc0991ba0, arg=3D0x0) at /usr/src/sys/= dev/kbd/atkbd.c:461 #11 0xc085d8db in atkbd_isa_intr (arg=3D0x0) at /usr/src/sys/isa/atkbd_isa.= c:177 #12 0xc064db55 in ithread_loop (arg=3D0xc14f7c00) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern= _intr.c:547 #13 0xc064cb7e in fork_exit (callout=3D0xc064d9b6 , arg=3D0x0= , frame=3D0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:791 #14 0xc08431dc in fork_trampoline () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:= 209 =3D=3D=3D here is an uninformative boot log output: May 6 11:54:31 sputnik syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988,= 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: The Regents of the University of California= =2E All rights reserved. May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Fri May 6 10:32:52 = PDT 2005 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: root@sputnik.attbi.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys= /GENERIC May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz qu= ality 0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz (2397.= 97-MHz 686-class CPU) May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf29 St= epping =3D 9 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Features=3D0xbfebf9ff on motherboard May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi0: on motherboard May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 H= z quality 1000 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> = port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi_throttle0: on cp= u0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi_acad0: on acpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi_cmbat0: on ac= pi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi_lid0: on a= cpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi_button0: on acpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi_button1: on acpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0x= cff on acpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: ACPI link \_SB_.PCI0.LNKB has invalid initi= al irq 11, ignoring May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pci0: on pcib0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pci0: at device 0.1 (no d= river attached) May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pci0: at device 0.3 (no d= river attached) May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: agp0: port 0xc000-0xc007 mem 0xe7f80000-0xe7ffffff,0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff i= rq 11 at$ May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: agp0: detected 892k stolen memory May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: agp0: aperture size is 128M May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver at= tached) May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhci0: port 0xbf80-0xbf9f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: usb0: on uhci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev = 1.00/1.00, addr 1 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self power= ed May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhci1: port 0xbf40-0xbf5f irq 11 at device 29.1 on pci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: usb1: on uhci1 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev = 1.00/1.00, addr 1 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self power= ed May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhci2: port 0xbf20-0xbf3f irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: usb2: on uhci2 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev = 1.00/1.00, addr 1 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self power= ed May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pci0: at device 29.7 (no = driver attached) May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pcib1: at device 30.0= on pci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pci2: on pcib1 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: cbb0: at device= 4.0 on pci2 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: cardbus0: on cbb0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: isab0: at device 31.0 on p= ci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: isa0: on isab0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: atapci0: po= rt 0xbfa0-0xbfaf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pcm0: port 0xcc40-0x= cc7f,0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xe7eff400-0xe7eff4ff,0xe7eff800-0xe7eff9ff irq 5 at= device $ May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pcm0: May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acpi_tz0: on acpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: atkbdc0: port= 0x66,0x62,0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: orm0: at iomem 0xcf800-0x= cffff,0xcf000-0xcf7ff,0xce800-0xcefff,0xce000-0xce7ff,0xcd800-0xcdfff,0xc00= 00-0xcd7$ May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: ppc0: parallel port not found. May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x30= 0> May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of pro= bed irqs 0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: sio0: port may not be enabled May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 o= n isa0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: sio0: type 8250 or not responding May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of pro= bed irqs 0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: sio1: port may not be enabled May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df= iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: ums0: Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse, rev 1.= 10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2397972040 Hz q= uality 800 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: cardbus0: at device 0.0= (no driver attached) May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: acd0: DVDROM a= t ata0-master PIO4 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: ad2: 19077MB [38= 760/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA100 May 6 11:54:31 sputnik kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad2s2a --=20 Allan Bowhill abowhill@blarg.net de39313bc71ca152385e170359715f9b This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCe9dMBC/kSIeFE54RAjOSAKDaYnBqvwPtIfPVaAYwjOluEXvyhwCgvGiZ ZOEhR7hvI71g16cUC3a+64c= =l2pM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 20:56:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BAE16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:56:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from host50a.simplicato.com (host50a.simplicato.com [207.99.47.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BF6D43D70 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:56:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gadfly@exitleft.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.simplicato.com [127.0.0.1]) by host50a.simplicato.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30D36AEBC3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host50a.simplicato.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (host50a.simplicato.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 24073-07 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.36.219] (unknown [216.37.114.8]) by host50a.simplicato.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA696AF0C9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <427BDA02.9040106@exitleft.org> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 16:56:34 -0400 From: ravi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050311 Thunderbird/1.0 Mnenhy/0.7.2.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <427A423E.30803@exitleft.org> <44ll6sdr71.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44ll6sdr71.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at simplicato.com Subject: Re: 4.9-RELEASE Xorg switch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 20:56:37 -0000 On 05/06/05 16:39, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > ravi writes: > >> i looked at the 20040723 entry again, but there is nothing more to do >> (in my case) listed there. also 20040723 gives instructions for 5.x, >> FreeBSD-current, -stable and older -current, but doesn't explicitly >> mention -release (which is what i run). > > 4.x was the -STABLE branch at the time of that entry. > You are running 4.9, which was a release from the -STABLE branch. > > Just follow the advice that entry gives for -stable and you'll be fine. > lowell, thanks for the response. greatly appreciated -- i was afraid my post would be buried by the archive copyright debate ;-). w.r.t your advice: i did follow the instructions in UPDATING. i am sure i am missing something obvious. here's the entry: > 20040723: > AFFECTS: users of FreeBSD-current, users of xorg > AUTHOR: anholt@FreeBSD.org > > The XFREE86_VERSION variable is deprecated and has been replaced by the > X_WINDOW_SYSTEM variable. X_WINDOW_SYSTEM may be set to xorg, xfree86-4, or > xfree86-3. X_WINDOW_SYSTEM defaults to xorg on FreeBSD-current. If you are > switching to xorg, you should follow this set of commands to cleanly upgrade: > > pkg_delete -f /var/db/pkg/imake-4* /var/db/pkg/XFree86-* > cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg && make install > pkgdb -F > > Users of -stable or older -current can switch to X.Org by setting > X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg in make.conf and following the same process. > > Alternately, FreeBSD 5.x and later users can use portupgrade with packages: > cd /var/db/pkg > > i did the pkg_delete -f, xorg make install and ran pkgdb -F. i also set X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg in /etc/make.conf. i still get errors from portupgrade, etc., regarding stale dependencies on imake-4 and various XFree86 ports. --ravi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:03:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21EC16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:03:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7AE43D5A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:03:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1028661nzf for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:03:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uPDHf+8Ildm/w3fM2/T8xPywGuCqKVcC6fUbGRzg0VlQOeHMsYz8F12Ia6ymrQcBCcYuRO5jU2zOQCvDWu+ZZ40XqABBJ4oroUw8XuE7xUp/r4BxeDAF/et11s9MXpPY6L1rSHiy+62ak3u686I10lUNAg4TuLC+RQheQsry524= Received: by 10.36.8.20 with SMTP id 20mr850251nzh; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.19 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e46c99e050506140342c24064@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:03:40 -0400 From: Tomas Quintero To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz In-Reply-To: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 21:03:40 -0000 On 5/6/05, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >=20 > Hello. >=20 > I have a big problem. My privacy has been violated. >=20 > I had no idea when I first started writing posts to the FreeBSD > mailinglist that it would be archived, let alone indexed by Google > so that the world can spy on my words. >=20 > Can the FreeBSD mailinglist administrators change my name and > e-mails, or delete my posts, if I can prove that I wrote them? >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > -- >=20 > Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf >=20 > -- Results 1 - 10 of about 57 for Fafa Hafiz Krantz. (0.23 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 175,000 for Tomas Quintero. (0.33 seconds) If only I was all of them. Point being, you're gonna make it, you'll survive. Enjoy the publicity, I'm sure you'll have the tabloids calling to ask who The GREAT FAFA is. I'm kinda forced to laugh about people suggesting the use of DMCA and other copyright laws/methods to force Fafa to disappear off the face of google. --=20 -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:07:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7D616A4D6 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A24643D92 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1030136nzf for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q0v5GRaEZMF8HFlXkdKR2JEywRvONd5A0mCNZmN6e9Eqccna1zaEntXqFsE+UzTfCp2jpNinSwT/08iHvyc7KEIhL/AgzpqTIjSAvzE6Qys0Nd11kHTniObab8tlDXnp1mWkhiusu51gAsO3tjASLERE22si8GEPmlCKiD6MlXs= Received: by 10.36.12.2 with SMTP id 2mr846198nzl; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.19 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e46c99e050506140757082176@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:07:11 -0400 From: Tomas Quintero To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz In-Reply-To: <20050506102422.A309C4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050506102422.A309C4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: chat@freebsd.org cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Want a logo competition? Do it properly. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 21:07:16 -0000 On 5/6/05, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >=20 > Hey! >=20 > I believe that the FreeBSD Project -- representing an open and > democratic rule and not a totalitarian power -- should allow its > users to decide what logo would be best suited. Hence, it would > be in the best interest for the future of this project to put > all logo submissions up for public display. This display should > be complimented by a voting system. >=20 > It is very important to get things right from the start. Look at > the NetBSD Project and their new logo for instance. The public > expressed great discontent about it, but only after the logo had > sunken deep into the cycles of production and the mentalities > of its contributors. >=20 > Even though designers do this for free (and I am sure most act > out of their love for the system and not because of the reward), > the framework of their profession should still apply. That is, a > contract protecting their rights from malicious intentions. >=20 > The FreeBSD Project should acknowledge that the elected designer > is entitled some say in the redesign of FreeBSD's website. Its > coders would most likely not know the first thing about design, > and hence compromise FreeBSD's image and its potential as > conceived by the designer. If the website design also should be > staged as a competition, it would be in the best interest of the > project to let the identity designer cooperate with the website > designer on the final outcome. >=20 > We all want what is best for FreeBSD. > Having said that, there should be no reason to fight over this. >=20 > A working design contract in need of modification: > http://www.aiga.org/resources/Content/1/4/6/documents/AIGA_contract.pdf >=20 > -- >=20 > Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Research Designer @ http://www.bleed.no > Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=3Dfreebsd-questions&m=3D111537599232346&w= =3D2 I would refer you to this address Fafa, prior to posting on the lists continually. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=3D111537605900001&r=3D1&w=3D2 Perhaps that one, for the entire story. --=20 -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:19:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4715E16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:19:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E385643D9C for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:19:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dot.sn1tch@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so932827wra for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:19:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AvjIzXsHNc5YVs8UJvsbLU9/626e9w/292xY9Dl0tW511iVlFe7nkpFQ1H2CeswFFieiTo0dok7l2B4HrfLu3lXFqCJ4jEJQwZeQGnkMiZPcLLODaQ7rmcam3p241pLpJdqrwZ39cGhxY9GF4Z/G0HGmsUEPucPrt4jx82mdTko= Received: by 10.54.13.76 with SMTP id 76mr1074338wrm; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.70 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:19:39 -0400 From: sn1tch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD ip alias X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sn1tch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 21:19:40 -0000 I have an issue that is driving me mad, it may be something simple that I am overlooking but any insight would be great. I have a freebsd machine with 2 nics and one being used. The first has 2 ip addresses, one of them via alias. I have BIND listening x.x.x.19 and regular operations on x.x.x.18. My problem is that apache wants to listen on both IPs and I dont want someone being able to point their browser at the ns1.domain.com and see a web page, so how do i get apache to stop listening on this IP. I have tried binding it to the .18 address and even setting Listen x.x.x.18:80 but it still wants to go to the main "apache TLS/SSL has been installed" page when i point it at x.x.x.19. Any thoughts as to what I might be doing wrong? Thanks --=20 You've officially been Gmailed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:50:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAE916A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:50:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070BF43D6A for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 6 May 2005 22:50:37 +0100 Message-ID: <427BE685.6030805@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 22:49:57 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050506 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ravi References: <427A423E.30803@exitleft.org> <44ll6sdr71.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <427BDA02.9040106@exitleft.org> In-Reply-To: <427BDA02.9040106@exitleft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2005 21:50:37.0216 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3342A00:01C55285] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.9-RELEASE Xorg switch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 21:50:00 -0000 ravi wrote: >> pkg_delete -f /var/db/pkg/imake-4* /var/db/pkg/XFree86-* >> cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg && make install >> pkgdb -F >> >> Users of -stable or older -current can switch to X.Org by setting >> X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg in make.conf and following the same process. >> >> >i did the pkg_delete -f, xorg make install and ran pkgdb -F. i also set >X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg in /etc/make.conf. > >i still get errors from portupgrade, etc., regarding stale dependencies >on imake-4 and various XFree86 ports. > > Stupid question, but you did run these as root? I followed this same procedure and remember no hitches. Even upgraded gnome as well, and everything came back working. Clutching at straws, have you cvsup-ed your ports? Does pkgdb -F run cleanly? Does pkg_info show anything unexpected as being installed (such as imake or XFree)? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:54:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0BE16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:54:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD3543DB7 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:54:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1046143nzf for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G3kk9oILV91P8kGCOQzStR7e6P0HUzVPLd7RdtH0hWI6RKq7oiRcOvyDA4f0ecYw+C31MX+1yqogpO3yGuR0S92td5KaZSLg3RLAB3xpeUylAoaYtuKOo6M8RTSxzhA7Dt/fXuZxkEKCyTEN8v5SwmLag+MSpPlk0jD4rTZiWEw= Received: by 10.36.61.5 with SMTP id j5mr840185nza; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.19 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e46c99e0505061454572a1bba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:54:38 -0400 From: Tomas Quintero To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 21:54:40 -0000 On 5/6/05, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Roland Smith writes: >=20 > > Subscribing to a list means that you give permission for your messages > > to be sent to all subscribers. Any one of those could save the messages= , > > creating an archive. So posting to the list implies permission for > > archival. >=20 > It doesn't give permission to make the archive publicly accessible. >=20 > -- > Anthony Theres just one more big problem with this, and all the DMCA stuff. I don't think Fafa is in America. I don't think he'd be a US Citizen either. Fafa, can you claim otherwise? I mean all indications in his sig hint towards him being a citizen of another country. --=20 -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:59:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD64016A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:59:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCD543D78 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:59:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dot.sn1tch@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so492364rnf for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:59:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=baNVCLTk3Th6EswITde0ECfDu9OdoOgDsQAhqt+wSn7SPyL2wFyNlMxqwt8PvidY2+AzkyShng+UvO3iiVu27KCD5OaJSuJpOzzs/xZoh4rEMgyoFtX1Ny53iWBTHyd3nIEe5YgKobmRe8zDzNZzK9F2MPnA667X+WyizEJJQpw= Received: by 10.38.150.24 with SMTP id x24mr284655rnd; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blade ([68.207.248.220]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29sm221007rng.2005.05.06.14.59.04; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:59:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe Wood" To: "'Philip Hallstrom'" Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:02:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C55265.D09C35C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20050506142432.V44441@wolf.pjkh.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-index: AcVSghrfTWh3mJxTRrC6q3riXB0ogQABG6dQ Message-ID: <427be8a9.641b963c.53a9.536c@mx.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD ip alias X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 21:59:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C55265.D09C35C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here you go, if there is anything else you need please let me know Thanks Joe -----Original Message----- From: Philip Hallstrom [mailto:freebsd@philip.pjkh.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:25 PM To: sn1tch Subject: Re: FreeBSD ip alias Post your httpd.conf to the list and that might help us spot something. Get rid of the Port command in it, and just have the Listen. That's worked for me. On Fri, 6 May 2005, sn1tch wrote: > I have an issue that is driving me mad, it may be something simple > that I am overlooking but any insight would be great. > > I have a freebsd machine with 2 nics and one being used. The first has > 2 ip addresses, one of them via alias. I have BIND listening x.x.x.19 > and regular operations on x.x.x.18. My problem is that apache wants to > listen on both IPs and I dont want someone being able to point their > browser at the ns1.domain.com and see a web page, so how do i get > apache to stop listening on this IP. I have tried binding it to the > .18 address and even setting Listen x.x.x.18:80 but it still wants to > go to the main "apache TLS/SSL has been installed" page when i point > it at x.x.x.19. Any thoughts as to what I might be doing wrong? > > Thanks > > -- > You've officially been Gmailed > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C55265.D09C35C0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="httpd.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="httpd.conf" ### Section 1: Global Environment # # The directives in this section affect the overall operation of Apache, # such as the number of concurrent requests it can handle or where it # can find its configuration files. # # # ServerType is either inetd, or standalone. Inetd mode is only = supported on # Unix platforms. # ServerType standalone # # ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's # configuration, error, and log files are kept. # # NOTE! If you intend to place this on an NFS (or otherwise network) # mounted filesystem then please read the LockFile documentation # (available at = ); # you will save yourself a lot of trouble. # ServerRoot "/usr/local" # # The LockFile directive sets the path to the lockfile used when Apache # is compiled with either USE_FCNTL_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT or # USE_FLOCK_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT. This directive should normally be left at # its default value. The main reason for changing it is if the logs # directory is NFS mounted, since the lockfile MUST BE STORED ON A LOCAL # DISK. The PID of the main server process is automatically appended to # the filename.=20 # #LockFile /var/run/httpd.lock # # PidFile: The file in which the server should record its process # identification number when it starts. # PidFile /var/run/httpd.pid # # ScoreBoardFile: File used to store internal server process = information. # Not all architectures require this. But if yours does (you'll know = because # this file will be created when you run Apache) then you *must* ensure = that # no two invocations of Apache share the same scoreboard file. # ScoreBoardFile /var/run/httpd.scoreboard # # In the standard configuration, the server will process httpd.conf = (this=20 # file, specified by the -f command line option), srm.conf, and = access.conf=20 # in that order. The latter two files are now distributed empty, as it = is=20 # recommended that all directives be kept in a single file for = simplicity. =20 # The commented-out values below are the built-in defaults. You can = have the=20 # server ignore these files altogether by using "/dev/null" (for Unix) = or # "nul" (for Win32) for the arguments to the directives. # ResourceConfig /dev/null AccessConfig /dev/null # # Timeout: The number of seconds before receives and sends time out. # Timeout 300 # # KeepAlive: Whether or not to allow persistent connections (more than # one request per connection). Set to "Off" to deactivate. # KeepAlive On # # MaxKeepAliveRequests: The maximum number of requests to allow # during a persistent connection. Set to 0 to allow an unlimited amount. # We recommend you leave this number high, for maximum performance. # MaxKeepAliveRequests 100 # # KeepAliveTimeout: Number of seconds to wait for the next request from = the # same client on the same connection. # KeepAliveTimeout 15 # # Server-pool size regulation. Rather than making you guess how many # server processes you need, Apache dynamically adapts to the load it # sees --- that is, it tries to maintain enough server processes to # handle the current load, plus a few spare servers to handle transient # load spikes (e.g., multiple simultaneous requests from a single # Netscape browser). # # It does this by periodically checking how many servers are waiting # for a request. If there are fewer than MinSpareServers, it creates # a new spare. If there are more than MaxSpareServers, some of the # spares die off. The default values are probably OK for most sites. # MinSpareServers 5 MaxSpareServers 10 # # Number of servers to start initially --- should be a reasonable = ballpark # figure. # StartServers 5 # # Limit on total number of servers running, i.e., limit on the number # of clients who can simultaneously connect --- if this limit is ever # reached, clients will be LOCKED OUT, so it should NOT BE SET TOO LOW. # It is intended mainly as a brake to keep a runaway server from taking # the system with it as it spirals down... # MaxClients 150 # # MaxRequestsPerChild: the number of requests each child process is # allowed to process before the child dies. The child will exit so # as to avoid problems after prolonged use when Apache (and maybe the # libraries it uses) leak memory or other resources. On most systems, = this # isn't really needed, but a few (such as Solaris) do have notable leaks # in the libraries. For these platforms, set to something like 10000 # or so; a setting of 0 means unlimited. # # NOTE: This value does not include keepalive requests after the initial # request per connection. For example, if a child process handles # an initial request and 10 subsequent "keptalive" requests, it # would only count as 1 request towards this limit. # MaxRequestsPerChild 0 # # Listen: Allows you to bind Apache to specific IP addresses and/or # ports, instead of the default. See also the # directive. # #Listen 3000 #Listen 12.34.56.78:80 # # BindAddress: You can support virtual hosts with this option. This = directive # is used to tell the server which IP address to listen to. It can = either # contain "*", an IP address, or a fully qualified Internet domain name. # See also the and Listen directives. # #BindAddress * # # Dynamic Shared Object (DSO) Support # # To be able to use the functionality of a module which was built as a = DSO you # have to place corresponding `LoadModule' lines at this location so the # directives contained in it are actually available _before_ they are = used. # Please read the file http://httpd.apache.org/docs/dso.html for more # details about the DSO mechanism and run `httpd -l' for the list of = already # built-in (statically linked and thus always available) modules in your = httpd # binary. # # Note: The order in which modules are loaded is important. Don't = change # the order below without expert advice. # # Example: # LoadModule foo_module libexec/mod_foo.so LoadModule mmap_static_module libexec/apache/mod_mmap_static.so LoadModule vhost_alias_module libexec/apache/mod_vhost_alias.so LoadModule env_module libexec/apache/mod_env.so LoadModule define_module libexec/apache/mod_define.so LoadModule config_log_module libexec/apache/mod_log_config.so LoadModule mime_magic_module libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so LoadModule mime_module libexec/apache/mod_mime.so LoadModule negotiation_module libexec/apache/mod_negotiation.so LoadModule status_module libexec/apache/mod_status.so LoadModule info_module libexec/apache/mod_info.so LoadModule includes_module libexec/apache/mod_include.so LoadModule autoindex_module libexec/apache/mod_autoindex.so LoadModule dir_module libexec/apache/mod_dir.so LoadModule cgi_module libexec/apache/mod_cgi.so LoadModule asis_module libexec/apache/mod_asis.so LoadModule imap_module libexec/apache/mod_imap.so LoadModule action_module libexec/apache/mod_actions.so LoadModule speling_module libexec/apache/mod_speling.so LoadModule userdir_module libexec/apache/mod_userdir.so LoadModule alias_module libexec/apache/mod_alias.so LoadModule rewrite_module libexec/apache/mod_rewrite.so LoadModule access_module libexec/apache/mod_access.so LoadModule auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth.so LoadModule anon_auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth_anon.so LoadModule db_auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth_db.so LoadModule digest_module libexec/apache/mod_digest.so LoadModule proxy_module libexec/apache/libproxy.so LoadModule cern_meta_module libexec/apache/mod_cern_meta.so LoadModule expires_module libexec/apache/mod_expires.so LoadModule headers_module libexec/apache/mod_headers.so LoadModule usertrack_module libexec/apache/mod_usertrack.so LoadModule log_forensic_module libexec/apache/mod_log_forensic.so LoadModule unique_id_module libexec/apache/mod_unique_id.so LoadModule setenvif_module libexec/apache/mod_setenvif.so LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so LoadModule perl_module libexec/apache/libperl.so # Reconstruction of the complete module list from all available modules # (static and shared ones) to achieve correct module execution order. # [WHENEVER YOU CHANGE THE LOADMODULE SECTION ABOVE UPDATE THIS, TOO] ClearModuleList AddModule mod_mmap_static.c AddModule mod_vhost_alias.c AddModule mod_env.c AddModule mod_define.c AddModule mod_log_config.c AddModule mod_mime_magic.c AddModule mod_mime.c AddModule mod_negotiation.c AddModule mod_status.c AddModule mod_info.c AddModule mod_include.c AddModule mod_autoindex.c AddModule mod_dir.c AddModule mod_cgi.c AddModule mod_asis.c AddModule mod_imap.c AddModule mod_actions.c AddModule mod_speling.c AddModule mod_userdir.c AddModule mod_alias.c AddModule mod_rewrite.c AddModule mod_access.c AddModule mod_auth.c AddModule mod_auth_anon.c AddModule mod_auth_db.c AddModule mod_digest.c AddModule mod_proxy.c AddModule mod_cern_meta.c AddModule mod_expires.c AddModule mod_headers.c AddModule mod_usertrack.c AddModule mod_log_forensic.c AddModule mod_unique_id.c AddModule mod_so.c AddModule mod_setenvif.c AddModule mod_ssl.c AddModule mod_php4.c AddModule mod_perl.c # # ExtendedStatus controls whether Apache will generate "full" status # information (ExtendedStatus On) or just basic information = (ExtendedStatus # Off) when the "server-status" handler is called. The default is Off. # #ExtendedStatus On ### Section 2: 'Main' server configuration # # The directives in this section set up the values used by the 'main' # server, which responds to any requests that aren't handled by a # definition. These values also provide defaults for # any containers you may define later in the file. # # All of these directives may appear inside containers, # in which case these default settings will be overridden for the # virtual host being defined. # # # If your ServerType directive (set earlier in the 'Global Environment' # section) is set to "inetd", the next few directives don't have any # effect since their settings are defined by the inetd configuration. # Skip ahead to the ServerAdmin directive. # # # Port: The port to which the standalone server listens. For # ports < 1023, you will need httpd to be run as root initially. # Port 80 ## ## SSL Support ## ## When we also provide SSL we have to listen to the=20 ## standard HTTP port (see above) and to the HTTPS port ## Listen 80 Listen 443 # # If you wish httpd to run as a different user or group, you must run # httpd as root initially and it will switch. =20 # # User/Group: The name (or #number) of the user/group to run httpd as. # . On SCO (ODT 3) use "User nouser" and "Group nogroup". # . On HPUX you may not be able to use shared memory as nobody, and the # suggested workaround is to create a user www and use that user. # NOTE that some kernels refuse to setgid(Group) or semctl(IPC_SET) # when the value of (unsigned)Group is above 60000;=20 # don't use Group "#-1" on these systems! # User www Group www # # ServerAdmin: Your address, where problems with the server should be # e-mailed. This address appears on some server-generated pages, such # as error documents. # ServerAdmin user@email.com # # ServerName allows you to set a host name which is sent back to clients = for # your server if it's different than the one the program would get = (i.e., use # "www" instead of the host's real name). # # Note: You cannot just invent host names and hope they work. The name = you=20 # define here must be a valid DNS name for your host. If you don't = understand # this, ask your network administrator. # If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address = here. # You will have to access it by its address (e.g., http://123.45.67.89/) # anyway, and this will make redirections work in a sensible way. # # 127.0.0.1 is the TCP/IP local loop-back address, often named = localhost. Your=20 # machine always knows itself by this address. If you use Apache = strictly for=20 # local testing and development, you may use 127.0.0.1 as the server = name. # ServerName domain.com # # DocumentRoot: The directory out of which you will serve your # documents. By default, all requests are taken from this directory, but # symbolic links and aliases may be used to point to other locations. # DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www/data" # # Each directory to which Apache has access, can be configured with = respect # to which services and features are allowed and/or disabled in that # directory (and its subdirectories).=20 # # First, we configure the "default" to be a very restrictive set of=20 # permissions. =20 # Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None # # Note that from this point forward you must specifically allow # particular features to be enabled - so if something's not working as # you might expect, make sure that you have specifically enabled it # below. # # # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. # # # This may also be "None", "All", or any combination of "Indexes", # "Includes", "FollowSymLinks", "ExecCGI", or "MultiViews". # # Note that "MultiViews" must be named *explicitly* --- "Options All" # doesn't give it to you. # Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews # # This controls which options the .htaccess files in directories can # override. Can also be "All", or any combination of "Options", = "FileInfo",=20 # "AuthConfig", and "Limit" # AllowOverride None # # Controls who can get stuff from this server. # Order allow,deny Allow from all # # UserDir: The name of the directory which is appended onto a user's = home # directory if a ~user request is received. # UserDir public_html # # Control access to UserDir directories. The following is an example # for a site where these directories are restricted to read-only. # # # AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit # Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec # # Order allow,deny # Allow from all # # # Order deny,allow # Deny from all # # # # DirectoryIndex: Name of the file or files to use as a pre-written HTML # directory index. Separate multiple entries with spaces. # DirectoryIndex index.php index.php3 index.html index.htm DirectoryIndex index.php3 index.html index.htm DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm # # AccessFileName: The name of the file to look for in each directory # for access control information. # AccessFileName .htaccess # # The following lines prevent .htaccess files from being viewed by # Web clients. Since .htaccess files often contain authorization # information, access is disallowed for security reasons. Comment # these lines out if you want Web visitors to see the contents of # .htaccess files. If you change the AccessFileName directive above, # be sure to make the corresponding changes here. # # Also, folks tend to use names such as .htpasswd for password # files, so this will protect those as well. # Order allow,deny Deny from all Satisfy All # # CacheNegotiatedDocs: By default, Apache sends "Pragma: no-cache" with = each # document that was negotiated on the basis of content. This asks proxy # servers not to cache the document. Uncommenting the following line = disables # this behavior, and proxies will be allowed to cache the documents. # #CacheNegotiatedDocs # # UseCanonicalName: (new for 1.3) With this setting turned on, = whenever # Apache needs to construct a self-referencing URL (a URL that refers = back # to the server the response is coming from) it will use ServerName and # Port to form a "canonical" name. With this setting off, Apache will # use the hostname:port that the client supplied, when possible. This # also affects SERVER_NAME and SERVER_PORT in CGI scripts. # UseCanonicalName On # # TypesConfig describes where the mime.types file (or equivalent) is # to be found. # TypesConfig /usr/local/etc/apache/mime.types # # DefaultType is the default MIME type the server will use for a = document # if it cannot otherwise determine one, such as from filename = extensions. # If your server contains mostly text or HTML documents, "text/plain" is # a good value. If most of your content is binary, such as applications # or images, you may want to use "application/octet-stream" instead to # keep browsers from trying to display binary files as though they are # text. # DefaultType text/plain # # The mod_mime_magic module allows the server to use various hints from = the # contents of the file itself to determine its type. The MIMEMagicFile # directive tells the module where the hint definitions are located. # mod_mime_magic is not part of the default server (you have to add # it yourself with a LoadModule [see the DSO paragraph in the 'Global # Environment' section], or recompile the server and include = mod_mime_magic # as part of the configuration), so it's enclosed in an = container. # This means that the MIMEMagicFile directive will only be processed if = the # module is part of the server. # MIMEMagicFile /usr/local/etc/apache/magic # # HostnameLookups: Log the names of clients or just their IP addresses # e.g., www.apache.org (on) or 204.62.129.132 (off). # The default is off because it'd be overall better for the net if = people # had to knowingly turn this feature on, since enabling it means that # each client request will result in AT LEAST one lookup request to the # nameserver. # HostnameLookups Off # # ErrorLog: The location of the error log file. # If you do not specify an ErrorLog directive within a # container, error messages relating to that virtual host will be # logged here. If you *do* define an error logfile for a # container, that host's errors will be logged there and not here. # ErrorLog /var/log/httpd-error.log # # LogLevel: Control the number of messages logged to the error_log. # Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit, # alert, emerg. # LogLevel warn # # The following directives define some format nicknames for use with # a CustomLog directive (see below). # LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" = combined LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent # # The location and format of the access logfile (Common Logfile Format). # If you do not define any access logfiles within a # container, they will be logged here. Contrariwise, if you *do* # define per- access logfiles, transactions will be # logged therein and *not* in this file. # #CustomLog /var/log/httpd-access.log common # # If you would like to have agent and referer logfiles, uncomment the # following directives. # #CustomLog /var/log/httpd-referer.log referer #CustomLog /var/log/httpd-agent.log agent # # If you prefer a single logfile with access, agent, and referer = information # (Combined Logfile Format) you can use the following directive. # CustomLog /var/log/httpd-access.log combined # # Optionally add a line containing the server version and virtual host # name to server-generated pages (error documents, FTP directory = listings, # mod_status and mod_info output etc., but not CGI generated documents). # Set to "EMail" to also include a mailto: link to the ServerAdmin. # Set to one of: On | Off | EMail # ServerSignature Off # EBCDIC configuration: # (only for mainframes using the EBCDIC codeset, currently one of: # Fujitsu-Siemens' BS2000/OSD, IBM's OS/390 and IBM's TPF)!! # The following default configuration assumes that "text files" # are stored in EBCDIC (so that you can operate on them using the # normal POSIX tools like grep and sort) while "binary files" are # stored with identical octets as on an ASCII machine. # # The directives are evaluated in configuration file order, with # the EBCDICConvert directives applied before EBCDICConvertByType. # # If you want to have ASCII HTML documents and EBCDIC HTML documents # at the same time, you can use the file extension to force # conversion off for the ASCII documents: # > AddType text/html .ahtml # > EBCDICConvert Off=3DInOut .ahtml # # EBCDICConvertByType On=3DInOut text/* message/* multipart/* # EBCDICConvertByType On=3DIn application/x-www-form-urlencoded # EBCDICConvertByType On=3DInOut application/postscript model/vrml # EBCDICConvertByType Off=3DInOut */* # # Aliases: Add here as many aliases as you need (with no limit). The = format is=20 # Alias fakename realname # # # Note that if you include a trailing / on fakename then the server = will # require it to be present in the URL. So "/icons" isn't aliased in = this # example, only "/icons/". If the fakename is slash-terminated, = then the=20 # realname must also be slash terminated, and if the fakename omits = the=20 # trailing slash, the realname must also omit it. # Alias /icons/ "/usr/local/www/icons/" Options Indexes MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all # This Alias will project the on-line documentation tree under = /manual/ # even if you change the DocumentRoot. Comment it if you don't want = to=20 # provide access to the on-line documentation. # Alias /manual/ "/usr/local/share/doc/apache/" Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all # # ScriptAlias: This controls which directories contain server = scripts. # ScriptAliases are essentially the same as Aliases, except that # documents in the realname directory are treated as applications = and # run by the server when requested rather than as documents sent to = the client. # The same rules about trailing "/" apply to ScriptAlias directives = as to # Alias. # ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/local/www/cgi-bin/" # # "/usr/local/www/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your = ScriptAliased # CGI directory exists, if you have that configured. # AllowOverride None Options None Order allow,deny Allow from all # End of aliases. # # Redirect allows you to tell clients about documents which used to = exist in # your server's namespace, but do not anymore. This allows you to tell = the # clients where to look for the relocated document. # Format: Redirect old-URI new-URL # # # Directives controlling the display of server-generated directory = listings. # # # FancyIndexing is whether you want fancy directory indexing or = standard # IndexOptions FancyIndexing # # AddIcon* directives tell the server which icon to show for = different # files or filename extensions. These are only displayed for # FancyIndexed directories. # AddIconByEncoding (CMP,/icons/compressed.gif) x-compress x-gzip AddIconByType (TXT,/icons/text.gif) text/* AddIconByType (IMG,/icons/image2.gif) image/* AddIconByType (SND,/icons/sound2.gif) audio/* AddIconByType (VID,/icons/movie.gif) video/* AddIcon /icons/binary.gif .bin .exe AddIcon /icons/binhex.gif .hqx AddIcon /icons/tar.gif .tar AddIcon /icons/world2.gif .wrl .wrl.gz .vrml .vrm .iv AddIcon /icons/compressed.gif .Z .z .tgz .gz .zip AddIcon /icons/a.gif .ps .ai .eps AddIcon /icons/layout.gif .html .shtml .htm .pdf AddIcon /icons/text.gif .txt AddIcon /icons/c.gif .c AddIcon /icons/p.gif .pl .py AddIcon /icons/f.gif .for AddIcon /icons/dvi.gif .dvi AddIcon /icons/uuencoded.gif .uu AddIcon /icons/script.gif .conf .sh .shar .csh .ksh .tcl AddIcon /icons/tex.gif .tex AddIcon /icons/bomb.gif core AddIcon /icons/back.gif .. AddIcon /icons/hand.right.gif README AddIcon /icons/folder.gif ^^DIRECTORY^^ AddIcon /icons/blank.gif ^^BLANKICON^^ # # DefaultIcon is which icon to show for files which do not have an = icon # explicitly set. # DefaultIcon /icons/unknown.gif # # AddDescription allows you to place a short description after a = file in # server-generated indexes. These are only displayed for = FancyIndexed # directories. # Format: AddDescription "description" filename # #AddDescription "GZIP compressed document" .gz #AddDescription "tar archive" .tar #AddDescription "GZIP compressed tar archive" .tgz # # ReadmeName is the name of the README file the server will look for = by # default, and append to directory listings. # # HeaderName is the name of a file which should be prepended to # directory indexes.=20 # ReadmeName README HeaderName HEADER # # IndexIgnore is a set of filenames which directory indexing should = ignore # and not include in the listing. Shell-style wildcarding is = permitted. # IndexIgnore .??* *~ *# HEADER* README* RCS CVS *,v *,t # End of indexing directives. # # Document types. # # # AddLanguage allows you to specify the language of a document. You = can # then use content negotiation to give a browser a file in a = language # it can understand. =20 # # Note 1: The suffix does not have to be the same as the language=20 # keyword --- those with documents in Polish (whose net-standard=20 # language code is pl) may wish to use "AddLanguage pl .po" to=20 # avoid the ambiguity with the common suffix for perl scripts. # # Note 2: The example entries below illustrate that in quite # some cases the two character 'Language' abbreviation is not # identical to the two character 'Country' code for its country, # E.g. 'Danmark/dk' versus 'Danish/da'. # # Note 3: In the case of 'ltz' we violate the RFC by using a three = char=20 # specifier. But there is 'work in progress' to fix this and get=20 # the reference data for rfc1766 cleaned up. # # Danish (da) - Dutch (nl) - English (en) - Estonian (ee) # French (fr) - German (de) - Greek-Modern (el) # Italian (it) - Korean (kr) - Norwegian (no) - Norwegian Nynorsk = (nn) # Portugese (pt) - Luxembourgeois* (ltz) # Spanish (es) - Swedish (sv) - Catalan (ca) - Czech(cs) # Polish (pl) - Brazilian Portuguese (pt-br) - Japanese (ja) # Russian (ru) # AddLanguage da .dk AddLanguage nl .nl AddLanguage en .en AddLanguage et .ee AddLanguage fr .fr AddLanguage de .de AddLanguage el .el AddLanguage he .he AddCharset ISO-8859-8 .iso8859-8 AddLanguage it .it AddLanguage ja .ja AddCharset ISO-2022-JP .jis AddLanguage kr .kr AddCharset ISO-2022-KR .iso-kr AddLanguage nn .nn AddLanguage no .no AddLanguage pl .po AddCharset ISO-8859-2 .iso-pl AddLanguage pt .pt AddLanguage pt-br .pt-br AddLanguage ltz .lu AddLanguage ca .ca AddLanguage es .es AddLanguage sv .sv AddLanguage cs .cz .cs AddLanguage ru .ru AddLanguage zh-TW .zh-tw AddCharset Big5 .Big5 .big5 AddCharset WINDOWS-1251 .cp-1251 AddCharset CP866 .cp866 AddCharset ISO-8859-5 .iso-ru AddCharset KOI8-R .koi8-r AddCharset UCS-2 .ucs2 AddCharset UCS-4 .ucs4 AddCharset UTF-8 .utf8 # LanguagePriority allows you to give precedence to some languages # in case of a tie during content negotiation. # # Just list the languages in decreasing order of preference. We have # more or less alphabetized them here. You probably want to change = this. # LanguagePriority en da nl et fr de el it ja kr no pl pt pt-br ru = ltz ca es sv tw # # AddType allows you to tweak mime.types without actually editing = it, or to # make certain files to be certain types. # AddType application/x-tar .tgz AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps # # AddEncoding allows you to have certain browsers uncompress # information on the fly. Note: Not all browsers support this. # Despite the name similarity, the following Add* directives have = nothing # to do with the FancyIndexing customization directives above. # AddEncoding x-compress .Z AddEncoding x-gzip .gz .tgz # # If the AddEncoding directives above are commented-out, then you # probably should define those extensions to indicate media types: # #AddType application/x-compress .Z #AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz # # AddHandler allows you to map certain file extensions to = "handlers", # actions unrelated to filetype. These can be either built into the = server # or added with the Action command (see below) # # If you want to use server side includes, or CGI outside # ScriptAliased directories, uncomment the following lines. # # To use CGI scripts: # #AddHandler cgi-script .cgi # # To use server-parsed HTML files # #AddType text/html .shtml #AddHandler server-parsed .shtml # # Uncomment the following line to enable Apache's send-asis HTTP = file # feature # #AddHandler send-as-is asis # # If you wish to use server-parsed imagemap files, use # #AddHandler imap-file map # # To enable type maps, you might want to use # #AddHandler type-map var # End of document types. # # Action lets you define media types that will execute a script whenever # a matching file is called. This eliminates the need for repeated URL # pathnames for oft-used CGI file processors. # Format: Action media/type /cgi-script/location # Format: Action handler-name /cgi-script/location # # # MetaDir: specifies the name of the directory in which Apache can find # meta information files. These files contain additional HTTP headers # to include when sending the document # #MetaDir .web # # MetaSuffix: specifies the file name suffix for the file containing the # meta information. # #MetaSuffix .meta # # Customizable error response (Apache style) # these come in three flavors # # 1) plain text #ErrorDocument 500 "The server made a boo boo. # n.b. the single leading (") marks it as text, it does not get output # # 2) local redirects #ErrorDocument 404 /missing.html # to redirect to local URL /missing.html #ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/missing_handler.pl # N.B.: You can redirect to a script or a document using = server-side-includes. # # 3) external redirects #ErrorDocument 402 http://www.example.com/subscription_info.html # N.B.: Many of the environment variables associated with the original # request will *not* be available to such a script. # # Customize behaviour based on the browser # # # The following directives modify normal HTTP response behavior. # The first directive disables keepalive for Netscape 2.x and = browsers that # spoof it. There are known problems with these browser = implementations. # The second directive is for Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0b2 # which has a broken HTTP/1.1 implementation and does not properly # support keepalive when it is used on 301 or 302 (redirect) = responses. # BrowserMatch "Mozilla/2" nokeepalive BrowserMatch "MSIE 4\.0b2;" nokeepalive downgrade-1.0 = force-response-1.0 # # The following directive disables HTTP/1.1 responses to browsers = which # are in violation of the HTTP/1.0 spec by not being able to grok a # basic 1.1 response. # BrowserMatch "RealPlayer 4\.0" force-response-1.0 BrowserMatch "Java/1\.0" force-response-1.0 BrowserMatch "JDK/1\.0" force-response-1.0 # End of browser customization directives # # Allow server status reports, with the URL of = http://servername/server-status # Change the ".example.com" to match your domain to enable. # # # SetHandler server-status # Order deny,allow # Deny from all # Allow from .example.com # # # Allow remote server configuration reports, with the URL of # http://servername/server-info (requires that mod_info.c be loaded). # Change the ".example.com" to match your domain to enable. # # # SetHandler server-info # Order deny,allow # Deny from all # Allow from .example.com # # # There have been reports of people trying to abuse an old bug from = pre-1.1 # days. This bug involved a CGI script distributed as a part of Apache. # By uncommenting these lines you can redirect these attacks to a = logging=20 # script on phf.apache.org. Or, you can record them yourself, using the = script # support/phf_abuse_log.cgi. # # # Deny from all # ErrorDocument 403 http://phf.apache.org/phf_abuse_log.cgi # ### Section 3: Virtual Hosts # # VirtualHost: If you want to maintain multiple domains/hostnames on = your # machine you can setup VirtualHost containers for them. Most = configurations # use only name-based virtual hosts so the server doesn't need to worry = about # IP addresses. This is indicated by the asterisks in the directives = below. # # Please see the documentation at = # for further details before you try to setup virtual hosts. # # You may use the command line option '-S' to verify your virtual host # configuration. # # Use name-based virtual hosting. # NameVirtualHost 192.168.2.18:80 DocumentRoot /home/sites/domain/web ServerName domain.com ServerAlias domain.com Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI +Includes AllowOverride All ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/sites/domain/web/cgi-bin/ ErrorLog /home/sites/domain/log/domain.com-error.log CustomLog /home/sites/domain/log/domain.com-custom.log combined ## ## SSL Global Context ## ## All SSL configuration in this context applies both to ## the main server and all SSL-enabled virtual hosts. ## # # Some MIME-types for downloading Certificates and CRLs # AddType application/x-x509-ca-cert .crt AddType application/x-pkcs7-crl .crl # Pass Phrase Dialog: # Configure the pass phrase gathering process. # The filtering dialog program (`builtin' is a internal # terminal dialog) has to provide the pass phrase on stdout. SSLPassPhraseDialog builtin # Inter-Process Session Cache: # Configure the SSL Session Cache: First the mechanism=20 # to use and second the expiring timeout (in seconds). #SSLSessionCache none #SSLSessionCache shmht:/var/run/ssl_scache(512000) #SSLSessionCache shmcb:/var/run/ssl_scache(512000) SSLSessionCache dbm:/var/run/ssl_scache SSLSessionCacheTimeout 300 # Semaphore: # Configure the path to the mutual exclusion semaphore the # SSL engine uses internally for inter-process synchronization.=20 SSLMutex file:/var/run/ssl_mutex # Pseudo Random Number Generator (PRNG): # Configure one or more sources to seed the PRNG of the=20 # SSL library. The seed data should be of good random quality. # WARNING! On some platforms /dev/random blocks if not enough entropy # is available. This means you then cannot use the /dev/random device # because it would lead to very long connection times (as long as # it requires to make more entropy available). But usually those # platforms additionally provide a /dev/urandom device which doesn't # block. So, if available, use this one instead. Read the mod_ssl User # Manual for more details. SSLRandomSeed startup builtin SSLRandomSeed connect builtin #SSLRandomSeed startup file:/dev/random 512 #SSLRandomSeed startup file:/dev/urandom 512 #SSLRandomSeed connect file:/dev/random 512 #SSLRandomSeed connect file:/dev/urandom 512 # Logging: # The home of the dedicated SSL protocol logfile. Errors are # additionally duplicated in the general error log file. Put # this somewhere where it cannot be used for symlink attacks on # a real server (i.e. somewhere where only root can write). # Log levels are (ascending order: higher ones include lower ones): # none, error, warn, info, trace, debug. SSLLog /var/log/ssl_engine_log SSLLogLevel info ## ## SSL Virtual Host Context ## NameVirtualHost 192.168.2.18:443 DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data ServerName domain.com ServerAlias domain.com Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI +Includes AllowOverride All ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/local/www/data/cgi-bin ErrorLog /usr/local/www/log/domain.com-error.log CustomLog /usr/local/www/log/domain.com-custom.log combined # SSL Engine Switch: # Enable/Disable SSL for this virtual host. SSLEngine on # SSL Cipher Suite: # List the ciphers that the client is permitted to negotiate. # See the mod_ssl documentation for a complete list. SSLCipherSuite = ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL # Server Certificate: # Point SSLCertificateFile at a PEM encoded certificate. If # the certificate is encrypted, then you will be prompted for a # pass phrase. Note that a kill -HUP will prompt again. A test # certificate can be generated with `make certificate' under # built time. Keep in mind that if you've both a RSA and a DSA # certificate you can configure both in parallel (to also allow # the use of DSA ciphers, etc.) SSLCertificateFile /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.crt/server.crt #SSLCertificateFile /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.crt/server-dsa.crt # Server Private Key: # If the key is not combined with the certificate, use this # directive to point at the key file. Keep in mind that if # you've both a RSA and a DSA private key you can configure # both in parallel (to also allow the use of DSA ciphers, etc.) SSLCertificateKeyFile /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.key/server.key #SSLCertificateKeyFile /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.key/server-dsa.key # Server Certificate Chain: # Point SSLCertificateChainFile at a file containing the # concatenation of PEM encoded CA certificates which form the # certificate chain for the server certificate. Alternatively # the referenced file can be the same as SSLCertificateFile # when the CA certificates are directly appended to the server # certificate for convinience. #SSLCertificateChainFile /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.crt/ca.crt # Certificate Authority (CA): # Set the CA certificate verification path where to find CA # certificates for client authentication or alternatively one # huge file containing all of them (file must be PEM encoded) # Note: Inside SSLCACertificatePath you need hash symlinks # to point to the certificate files. Use the provided # Makefile to update the hash symlinks after changes. #SSLCACertificatePath /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.crt #SSLCACertificateFile /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.crt/ca-bundle.crt # Certificate Revocation Lists (CRL): # Set the CA revocation path where to find CA CRLs for client # authentication or alternatively one huge file containing all # of them (file must be PEM encoded) # Note: Inside SSLCARevocationPath you need hash symlinks # to point to the certificate files. Use the provided # Makefile to update the hash symlinks after changes. #SSLCARevocationPath /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.crl #SSLCARevocationFile /usr/local/etc/apache/ssl.crl/ca-bundle.crl # Client Authentication (Type): # Client certificate verification type and depth. Types are # none, optional, require and optional_no_ca. Depth is a # number which specifies how deeply to verify the certificate # issuer chain before deciding the certificate is not valid. #SSLVerifyClient require #SSLVerifyDepth 10 # Access Control: # With SSLRequire you can do per-directory access control based # on arbitrary complex boolean expressions containing server # variable checks and other lookup directives. The syntax is a # mixture between C and Perl. See the mod_ssl documentation # for more details. # #SSLRequire ( %{SSL_CIPHER} !~ m/^(EXP|NULL)/ \ # and %{SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_O} eq "Snake Oil, Ltd." \ # and %{SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_OU} in {"Staff", "CA", "Dev"} \ # and %{TIME_WDAY} >=3D 1 and %{TIME_WDAY} <=3D 5 \ # and %{TIME_HOUR} >=3D 8 and %{TIME_HOUR} <=3D 20 ) \ # or %{REMOTE_ADDR} =3D~ m/^192\.76\.162\.[0-9]+$/ # # SSL Engine Options: # Set various options for the SSL engine. # o FakeBasicAuth: # Translate the client X.509 into a Basic Authorisation. This means = that # the standard Auth/DBMAuth methods can be used for access control. = The # user name is the `one line' version of the client's X.509 = certificate. # Note that no password is obtained from the user. Every entry in = the user # file needs this password: `xxj31ZMTZzkVA'. # o ExportCertData: # This exports two additional environment variables: SSL_CLIENT_CERT = and # SSL_SERVER_CERT. These contain the PEM-encoded certificates of the # server (always existing) and the client (only existing when client # authentication is used). This can be used to import the = certificates # into CGI scripts. # o StdEnvVars: # This exports the standard SSL/TLS related `SSL_*' environment = variables. # Per default this exportation is switched off for performance = reasons, # because the extraction step is an expensive operation and is = usually # useless for serving static content. So one usually enables the # exportation for CGI and SSI requests only. # o CompatEnvVars: # This exports obsolete environment variables for backward = compatibility # to Apache-SSL 1.x, mod_ssl 2.0.x, Sioux 1.0 and Stronghold 2.x. = Use this # to provide compatibility to existing CGI scripts. # o StrictRequire: # This denies access when "SSLRequireSSL" or "SSLRequire" applied = even # under a "Satisfy any" situation, i.e. when it applies access is = denied # and no other module can change it. # o OptRenegotiate: # This enables optimized SSL connection renegotiation handling when = SSL # directives are used in per-directory context.=20 #SSLOptions +FakeBasicAuth +ExportCertData +CompatEnvVars +StrictRequire SSLOptions +StdEnvVars SSLOptions +StdEnvVars # SSL Protocol Adjustments: # The safe and default but still SSL/TLS standard compliant shutdown # approach is that mod_ssl sends the close notify alert but doesn't = wait for # the close notify alert from client. When you need a different = shutdown # approach you can use one of the following variables: # o ssl-unclean-shutdown: # This forces an unclean shutdown when the connection is closed, = i.e. no # SSL close notify alert is send or allowed to received. This = violates # the SSL/TLS standard but is needed for some brain-dead browsers. = Use # this when you receive I/O errors because of the standard approach = where # mod_ssl sends the close notify alert. # o ssl-accurate-shutdown: # This forces an accurate shutdown when the connection is closed, = i.e. a # SSL close notify alert is send and mod_ssl waits for the close = notify # alert of the client. This is 100% SSL/TLS standard compliant, but = in # practice often causes hanging connections with brain-dead = browsers. Use # this only for browsers where you know that their SSL = implementation # works correctly.=20 # Notice: Most problems of broken clients are also related to the HTTP # keep-alive facility, so you usually additionally want to disable # keep-alive for those clients, too. Use variable "nokeepalive" for = this. # Similarly, one has to force some clients to use HTTP/1.0 to = workaround # their broken HTTP/1.1 implementation. Use variables "downgrade-1.0" = and # "force-response-1.0" for this. SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" \ nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown \ downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0 # Per-Server Logging: # The home of a custom SSL log file. Use this when you want a # compact non-error SSL logfile on a virtual host basis. CustomLog /var/log/ssl_request_log \ "%t %h %{SSL_PROTOCOL}x %{SSL_CIPHER}x \"%r\" %b" =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C55265.D09C35C0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 22:24:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCDE16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:24:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.ixpres.com (smtp4.ixpres.com [216.240.160.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E1343D88 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:24:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from webmail.ixpres.com (webmail.ixpres.com [216.240.160.200]) by smtp4.ixpres.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j46MXtM22400; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:33:55 -0700 Received: from 64.58.171.86 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vizion@ixpres.com) by webmail.ixpres.com with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3404.64.58.171.86.1115418419.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:26:59 -0700 (PDT) From: vizion@ixpres.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: vizion@ixpres.com Subject: kde compile error lib pgp or libgpg?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: vizion@ixpres.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 22:24:15 -0000 Hi Below is the output from an attempt to compile kde3. The concluding lines show the compiler stops. On my system in /usr/local/lib/ there is libgpg-error.la NOT libpgp-error.la There are also libgpg-error.a, libgpg-error.so -> libgpg-error.so.1, libgpg.error.so.1 Clearly make cannot find libpgp.error.la because the file does not exist. Where does the "bug" lie and how cn it be remedied? Thanks David ...libxslt/libxslt.la -L/usr/local/lib -lxm12-lz _L/usr/local/lib -liconv s -lm -lm litool15: link: '/usr/local/lib/libpgp-error.la' is not avalid libtool archive gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/textproc/libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.14/libexslt' gmake[1]: [all-recursive] error 1 gmake[1]: '/usr/ports/textproc/libxslt/work/libxslt-1.1.14' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in/usr/ports/textproc/libxslt. *** Error code 1 Stop in/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3. *** Error code 1 Stop in/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3. *** Error code 1 Stop in/usr/ports/x11/kde3 David Southwell Ham call sign M0TAU ****Remove nospamme_ from reply to ****** 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing May bound for Europe via Panama Canal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 22:30:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B021816A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6745443D88 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1056036nzf for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:30:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lMrzy8qkJUjH+GYAQ+iPeC8dsnWl/sc9cAnz8oALddBCb5keQ3G7Bcccm/gv7IkdxTa6HfU9dE8edE8WZ/yoMzIA6Et15KgIWGrrpwFLcoqQVAXAqYWBTDnhfwuKU47lOXborJBdKp7+AACUN7RkOCJD3piDwxHRzXwTpTBvrx8= Received: by 10.36.3.16 with SMTP id 16mr866075nzc; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.20.3 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:30:07 -0400 From: Danny To: FreeBSD-questions In-Reply-To: <20050506170201.0784D16A4D7@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050506170201.0784D16A4D7@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda - time to retire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 22:30:08 -0000 On 5/6/05, Greg Lehey wrote: > The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a we= b page > or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge > computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortuna= tely, > The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably= , a > number of bugs and changes have surfaced. >=20 > "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, includi= ng its > predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been rep= rinted > with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at > http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata > information. >=20 > Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Pl= ease > let me know: I'm constantly updating it. "Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, fourth edition Last revision: $Date: 2003/07/01 02:00:06 $ " It's been almost two years since an update, Greg, I would say it's safe to stop sending this automated email. I think all the bugs have been found. ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 22:48:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F3116A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:48:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F18F43D46 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:48:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 875A91C00093 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:48:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 61AFF1C00088 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:48:26 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506224826400.61AFF1C00088@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 00:48:26 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <106561294.20050507004826@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 22:48:28 -0000 Paul Schmehl writes: > Here's a webpage that makes your arguments laughable: > > > It's a mailing list to discuss digital copyright. Its archives are > searchable, and there's no requirement to agree to that when you subscribe. What's so funny about it? > This one is even funnier: > > > Searchable archives going back to 1997. See above. > You *still* haven't provided *one* link to prove anything you've said. Copyright law isn't good enough? > On the Internet, that's tantamount to an admission that you're > blowing smoke. No, it's not. I see people posting links all the time (hmm), and posting links typically doesn't prove anything. You can find a link to "prove" just about anything you want on the Internet. > I doubt seriously your *extremely* strict interpretation of copyright would > hold up in any court of law in the US or anywhere else for that matter. Your doubts are not important. It's what actually happens in court that's important. > I have no doubt that you could find a judge somewhere to rule > in your favor. I don't know. > After all, judges make incredibly stupid rulings daily. Maybe you should advise them, so that they can benefit from your wisdom, and your collection of Web links. > But in the end, your argument would fall on deaf ears when saner minds > were engaged. I'm not so sure. I think it better to be safe than sorry. > When you post to a public list, your post are not copyrighted material. > They exist in the public domain. False. Anything you write is copyrighted as soon as you record it. It never enters the public domain unless you release it explicitly to the public domain or the copyright expires (70 years after your death). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 22:50:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD75A16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:50:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BAE43D7B for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:50:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BC53E1C0009B for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:49:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A13501C00099 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:49:59 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506224959660.A13501C00099@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 00:49:59 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1647772623.20050507004959@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e0505061454572a1bba@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> <9e46c99e0505061454572a1bba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 22:50:01 -0000 Tomas Quintero writes: > Theres just one more big problem with this, and all the DMCA stuff. > > I don't think Fafa is in America. I don't think he'd be a US Citizen > either. Fafa, can you claim otherwise? I mean all indications in his > sig hint towards him being a citizen of another country. It's possible to submit DMCA notifications from outside the U.S., if the potential infringement is inside the U.S. Additionally, even without the DMCA, the basic rules of copyright still apply. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 23:44:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D6616A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:44:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2559643DBF for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:44:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425B34BD6E; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:42:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 01:46:34 +0200 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506234634.GB10597@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> <1305875013.20050506203538@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1305875013.20050506203538@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 23:44:44 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:35:38PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > When you sign up to a mailing list, you implicitly give permission to > distribute your posts to other members of the list. You do _not_ give > permission to have your posts archived, and you do _not_ give permission > to have your posts published and made accessible to people who are not > on the list. Anthony, mailing lists of OSS projects have been archived for a very long time now. Anyone who doesn't know that, would have been living under a rock. People trying to argue against this overly widespread modus operandi of OSS mailing lists in a court of law would have a real hard time to convince the judges that such comments which have been committed to public mailing lists may not be archived under fair use provisions. Fafa has no chance to revoke his postings entirely -- no matter how much litigation he deems necessary to initiate -- because they are spread all over the mirrors in more jurisdictions than he can even dream of. Anyone trying to squeeze this back just makes a fool out of himself and loses time and money. Anyway, this thread is becoming increasingly burocratic. Please take it to -advocacy@ or -chat@ or, better yet, let it die. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 23:46:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62DC16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:46:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B9E43D79 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:46:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=43478 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUCWf-0000hA-BY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:46:33 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:57554 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp5.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUCWe-0004bz-2m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:46:32 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 01:45:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505070145.50210.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Erik Norgaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 23:46:34 -0000 I certainly don't expect to be able to solve your problems (the kind of which are everyone's nightmare because you just can't pin down where they start) but I'm willing to give it a try. On Friday 06 May 2005 11:08, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi, > > I am experiencing tremendous problems keeping my FBSD 5 up and > happy, yet I keep experiencing spontaneous reboots and crashes. > > This is a looong story, I have been trying to figure out what's > causing the problem for two weeks now. I really appreciate > your patience and response if you make it all to the end :-) > > The setup: > > FBSD---DSL---Internet > > The DSL is a Thomsom 510 ADSL router doing 1-1 NAT, no firewall. > The FBSD is configured with IPFilter firewall and running named, > postfix, cyrus-imap22 with virtual domains and apache with > virtual hosts, also to serve the local net (behind the DSL) it > runs dhcpd, ntpd and mysql. Is the cable modem also running a dhcp server with your FBSD as a client? If in any event you get the same IP number allocated to more than one boxes on a network that's a ticket to a panic/reboot I'd think. Also dhclient likes to run through every interface which can yield unexpected results if you're also running dhcpd for LAN clients on an interface that just got dhcp'ed... Can you capture traffic? Please scroll down... > Postfix, Cyrus-Imap and Apache are all configured with TLS > support and I have generated certificates using OpenSSL. This > system was installed in november, and upgraded begning january. I > have had no problems for months. > > Then - from the beginning: > > On April 15, FreeBSD 5.3-p5, I had two simultaneous+/- events: > > 1) A huge number of incoming mail delivery attempts to addresses > of the type randomchars@mydomain.com > 2) Kernel panic, fatal trap 12 > > I had done no prior system tuning or changes. > > Since then, uptime has been anywhere between 0 and >3 days - the > last obtained by stopping all services and disconnecting the > machine from the network. > > 1) By huge, I mean enough to suck up a 512kbps DSL connection, > but this should be far from enough to make FBSD cough or even > panic. Also, system load is always close to 0.00. > > I have postfix handling mail and use cyrus-imap with virtual > domains as backend. Since postfix didn't know hosted addresses, > cyrus rejects the mail. I created a list of existing addresses so > mail could be rejected faster. > > The illicit mail delivery attempts persists. Can you capture traffic? I for one would be interseted in what this mail is. And it's function. Does it try to use you as a relay or is it merely sent to you, perhaps as a mail bomb... Stuff like that. Do you have any of those mails? Wghat's their contents, and headers then.. > 2) I followed the handbook to investigate the panic: > Following the kernel panic faq: > > Fatal trap 12: Page fault while in kernel mode > Fault virtual address = 0xc > Fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc053d638 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xcb4ddaec > frame pointer = 0x10:0xcb4ddaf8 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 > current process = 28 (swi1:net) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > > # nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c053d6 > c053d610 T m_copydata > c053d670 T m_dup > > I no longer get this panic, however my system does not deserve the > predicate -STABLE. Somehow, I prefered the panic, at least it gave > some info for debugging. But now it reboots without a blip. > > Disk errors: > > The crashes _always_ causes disk errors that cannot be recovered > by the background fsck, particularly on /var where mail resides. > This may result in new reboots. > > To solve this I have tried mounting drives read-only, unless > write permission was necesary. It turns out that postfix requires > write access to /, /usr and /var - the first two appears to be > related to tls(?). > > Also, I have set fsck_y_enable="yes" in rc.conf, so the disk is > thorouly checked on boot after a crash. > > I had dumpon set in my rc.conf but this just made the partition > full making things even worse. I have removed all kernel dumps and > also unnecessary data as I understood diskperformance may drop > when diskspace is below 15%. > > The kernel: > > The first kernel was a 5.3-p5 custom kernel. To make it easier to > debug I updated to -p8, GENERIC. No change. No change. Following > suggestions by Kris K. I upgraded to 5.4-RC2. > > This solved the panic - but the system still crashes, also after > updating to RC3 and RC4. > > The system: > > Upgrading to 5.4, RC2, I built world also. I then realized that > some ports may have been built against the old base causing new > problems. > > I have now deinstalled all ports. The system has been completely > updated, kernel and base, to 54RC4. I have reinstalled the > minimal set of ports needed to serve my needs, version to -CURRENT > as of may 3. > > I still experience crashes. > > Postfix: Don't expect you having a problem here. > I tried to limit the amount of simultaneaous deliveries handles. > No change. > > When a connection is made postfix sends a lot of dns queryes to > verify that the sender hostname resolves to the ip, that sender > domain exists, and that it is not in a block list. > > IPFilter: Don't expect you having a problem here. > I have restricted access to port 25, now only a handfull of > servers are permitted by the firewall. This has helped, uptime is > now hours rather than minutes, but I still have crashes. > > I have reduced all timeouts to prevent state table from > saturating, but no change. > > If I open up for incoming mail, for a (any) /8 segment, the number > of connections explode. Due to the limitation of simultaneous > postfix threads, many time out. No change. > > I am working on a black list based on the maillog, but this is > another project. > > DNS: Is that daemonsecurity.com, your domain? If you host security related stuff and perhaps usually blog on it or something (it's "maintenance" now), you might be having a single persistant enemy also that is causing you headaches. You never know. > Since mail to mydomain.com is currently useless I have decided to > set the MX record to 127.0.0.1. This has stopped the illicit mail, > but also all other legitimate mail to that domain - mostly this > gives me peace and bandwith. > > Hardware: (dmesg below) > > I have tried to change the disk cable, I have a 2.5" disk with a > converter cable to standard IDE. > > Also, I have tried the disk in my laptop and it appears stable, > but testing period was limited. > > I have tried both IDE connectors on the MB and both NIC's. No > change. > > Summary: > > Despite all my attempts to solve the problem, my system is far > from STABLE. I still experience spontaneous crashes, allthough > less often. > > It is my personal belief that there may be a hardware problem, > or persistent disk errors. Could be, but this may be a complication caused by having several nasty crashes rather than being the original cause. > The reason is that despite the traffic load satturates the > connection it should not be enough to crash even limited hardware. > I have no more ideas on how to debug this. > > Questions: > > * Is there a disk tool for analysing the disk, marking sectors bad > etc? smarttools in ports, badsect in base, .. probably more but never exactly what you want :) > * How do I find the file if I know the Inode number (as reported > by fsck)? With find? should be possible but don't know from the head. > * Can malformed packets cause FBSD crash? Could Thomson510 be > accountable for such packets? I think that a sufficiently bad packet could crash the stack, the module, the kernel, yes. My first impulse after reading your mail was to google for security problems with these routers and there's at least one which looks promising but also hard to actually abuse: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2004-0641 You never know though.. Who knows how advanced the virusmakers/spammeisters are nowadays. Your actual symptoms might be side effects because it gets an unexpected system. > * Did I miss the obvious? Paranoia maybe. The social factor. Any enemies who'd be capable? What's in the spam they try to deliver? Do they also try to send/relay? What services does your DSL modem run? What's your link to a security site registered in spain... I reckon your its tech admin.. well the mail is related to that as well, no? > * Any ideas where to go now? > > All help is highly appreciated. If it will help I dunno. Good luck, Dan > Thanks, Erik > > Disk space: df > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 507630 76966 390054 16% / > devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev > /dev/ad0s1g 30859916 14228272 14162852 50% /home > /dev/ad0s1f 507630 42 466978 0% /tmp > /dev/ad0s1d 12186190 2134420 9076876 19% /usr > /dev/ad0s1e 12186190 7689462 3521834 69% /var > devfs 1 1 0 100% /var/named/dev > > last (24h): > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Fri 6 May 10:09 still logged in > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Fri 6 May 09:22 - 09:25 (00:03) > norgaard ttyp0 charm Fri 6 May 08:28 - 08:42 > (00:13) norgaard ttyp0 charm Fri 6 May 07:48 - 08:00 > (00:11) reboot ~ Fri 6 May 04:16 > norgaard ttyp1 charm Thu 5 May 22:45 - 23:18 > (00:32) norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 22:09 - crash > (06:07) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 22:05 > norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 21:45 - crash > (00:20) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 21:20 > norgaard ttyp1 charm Thu 5 May 21:11 - crash > (00:09) norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 20:45 - crash > (00:35) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 18:57 > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 18:23 - 18:23 (00:00) > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 18:22 > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 16:44 - crash (01:37) > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 15:44 - 16:13 (00:28) > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 13:57 - 13:58 (00:00) > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 13:38 - 13:51 (00:12) > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 13:06 - 13:27 (00:21) > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 10:53 - 11:00 (00:06) > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 10:43 > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 10:37 - crash (00:06) > norgaard ttyp0 x.x.x.x Thu 5 May 10:14 - 10:22 (00:08) > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 10:06 > norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 08:38 - crash > (01:27) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 08:38 > norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 07:53 - 07:54 > (00:00) norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 07:52 - 07:52 > (00:00) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 07:17 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 04:59 > norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 04:17 - crash > (00:41) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 04:16 > shutdown ~ Thu 5 May 04:14 > norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 03:45 - shutdown > (00:28) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:42 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:40 > norgaard ttyp0 charm Thu 5 May 03:40 - crash > (00:00) reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:31 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:27 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:13 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 03:03 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:58 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:51 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:47 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:41 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:35 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:29 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:25 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:20 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 02:09 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:58 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:53 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:50 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:46 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:42 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:33 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:30 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:27 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:13 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:08 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 01:05 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:58 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:53 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:44 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:34 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:24 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:20 > reboot ~ Thu 5 May 00:13 > reboot ~ Wed 4 May 23:58 > reboot ~ Wed 4 May 23:43 > reboot ~ Wed 4 May 23:40 > reboot ~ Wed 4 May 23:36 > norgaard ttyp0 charm Wed 4 May 20:57 - 23:29 > (02:31) > > Note the reboots from Wed 4, 23.36 - Thu 5 7.52 appeared to be > caused by postfix throtling due to a read only mounted /usr. > > dmesg.today: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, > 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD 5.4-RC4 #0: Tue May 3 14:07:30 CEST 2005 > root@top.daemonsecurity.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah+RNG (1002.28-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x694 Stepping = 4 > > Features=0x380b03d > real memory = 251592704 (239 MB) > avail memory = 236548096 (225 MB) > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > agp0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff at > device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > vr0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem > 0xde000000-0xde0000ff irq 12 at device 15.0 on pci0 miibus0: on > vr0 > ukphy0: on miibus0 > ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > vr0: Ethernet address: 00:40:63:d4:89:72 > uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 11 at > device 16.0 on pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 11 at device 16.1 > on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci2: port 0xdc00-0xdc1f irq 9 at device 16.2 > on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > pci0: at device 16.3 (no driver attached) > isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port > 0xe000-0xe00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 17.1 on pci0 > ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 > ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 > pci0: at device 17.5 (no driver attached) > vr1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem > 0xde002000-0xde0020ff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 miibus1: on > vr1 > ukphy1: on miibus1 > ukphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > vr1: Ethernet address: 00:40:63:d4:89:71 > fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > acpi0 sio0: type 16550A > sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 > sio1: type 16550A > ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 > ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppbus0: on ppc0 > plip0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus0 > sio2: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on acpi0 > sio2: type 16550A > sio3: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 10 on acpi0 > sio3: type 16550A > orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcdfff on isa0 > pmtimer0 on isa0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1002278507 Hz quality 800 > Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec > ad0: 57231MB [116280/16/63] at ata0-master > UDMA100 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted > WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted > WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted > WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted > IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = > enabled > Accounting enabled > > > > GnuPG: http://www.locolomo.org/home/norgaard/norgaard.gpg.asc > pub 1024D/11D11F9E 2003-08-15 Erik Norgaard > Key fingerprint = C394 81C4 D137 EEE5 39BE 82D5 3E6B FB3E 11D1 1F9E > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 23:48:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D2616A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:48:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E45243D60 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG300G8TE4V20@smtp19.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:48:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j46NmN9H004758; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:48:23 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j46NmNUf004757; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:48:23 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:48:22 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20050506123719.61A5D4BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-id: <20050506234822.GB3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506123719.61A5D4BEAF@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 23:48:34 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:37:19AM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > Hello boys! > > I just spent a few days doing a make world and kernel. > My machine is terribly slow. Yet, my network problem hasn't > gone away. This shows that it wasn't an asynchronisation > between my world and kernel. I've also compiled io and mem > into my new kernel. > > Here is my problem description: > > * My nameserver setup is disfunctional. > * My web, mail and fileserver is disfunctional. > * I cannot SSH and FTP into certain servers. > * I cannot ping my IP from the outside. > * My ISP controls the PTR of my reverse DNS lookup. > This fails to resolve too. What error messages can you see afther you have reboot in /var/log/messages? (My gut feeling says its a named related problem) -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 23:55:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A330916A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:55:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.wxs.nl (smtp14.wxs.nl [195.121.6.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EA943DA2 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:55:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp14.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG300E0SEGD87@smtp14.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:55:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j46NtGP7004797; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:55:16 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j46NtGYo004796; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:55:16 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:55:16 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20050506132055.26942164037@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-id: <20050506235516.GC3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506132055.26942164037@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: Jan Grant cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 23:55:26 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:20:54AM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > > Unfortunately, you appear to be preemptively rejecting the most obvious > > advice, and implicitly asking that people start troubleshooting "from > > the middle". Was your machine up without reboot for months? If so, > > there's no guarantee that the state of named.conf actually reflects the > > state of the previously running named prior to a reboot (alas, I've seen > > this all too often). > > No, I had been rooting it quite often since I was testing PF. > > > Can you begin by posting your fully-functional named.conf and > > resolv.conf? And possibly describing exactly what you mean by "my > > nameserver is dysfunctional"? Do you mean that you cannot resolve > > addresses from your host? Does dig work against your local nameserver > > instance? Can you see any of the root servers with dig? Is named just > > refusing to start? ... and so on. > > # cat /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf > # > > options { > directory "/etc/namedb"; > pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; > }; I also have: dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; > > zone "." { > type hint; > file "named.root"; > }; > > zone "domain.com" { > type master; > file "db.domain.com"; > allow-transfer { 209.98.223.41; }; > }; > > zone "3.0.7.5.0.0.4.0.8.1.6.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa" { > type master; > file "db.terrabionic.com.rev"; > allow-transfer { 209.98.223.41; }; > }; > > zone "terrabionic.lan" { > type master; > file "db.terrabionic.lan"; > }; > > zone "187.168.192.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "db.terrabionic.lan.rev"; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "db.localhost.rev"; > }; It could be that type slave files need to go in the subdirectory slave and type master files need to go in the subdirectory master. I have this: /* zone "example.com" { type slave; file "slave/example.com"; masters { 192.168.1.1; }; }; zone "0.168.192.in-addr.arpa" { type slave; file "slave/0.168.192.in-addr.arpa"; masters { 192.168.1.1; }; }; */ Check you /var/log/messages for errors about this. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:04:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E9816A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:04:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B20C43D3F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:04:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191AE4B296; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:02:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 02:06:45 +0200 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: John Pettitt Message-ID: <20050507000645.GA10731@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:04:56 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 12:10:58PM -0700, John Pettitt wrote: > This news just in: > > Fafa Hafiz Krantz a research designer at Barbershop in Norway ( > http://www.home.no/barbershop ) has asked that his posts be removed for > all the archives of several public email lists. The request sparked a > heated debate over the issue of copyright on email lists and raised > interesting questions about specifically opting in to having posts > archived. As is typical in such debates few of the participants cited > any real evidence backing up their views and almost no attention was > paid to the jurisdictional issues created by international lists. > > There was speculation that the request for deletion was prompted by the > posters political views as referenced in his email signature which > points to an article about middle east politics > http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf > > With the debate he started Mr Krantz seems to have had ensured that his > name will live in archives for the foreseeable future, referenced in > articles such as this one which he has no copyright to and no control > over. In the end the best strategy seems to be: if you don't want to > be quoted don't say anything. > > --END-- ROTFL! Now post this on Slashdot and have it picked up by Google News and major news agencies. I guess, Fafa's bandwidth costs will go through the roof in the blink of an eye. So will his page rank, incidentally. Not that I'm suggesting doing this, of course! > This news item may be archived and reposted in any medium without > limitation including on search engines. Absolutely! Copyright doesn't protect anyone from making a fool out of themselves. Cheers, -cpgost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:14:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5B616A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:14:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8920943D94 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:14:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D4160E2; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:14:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58922-10; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:14:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F334560D4; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:14:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427C0876.4080506@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:14:46 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost@cordula.ws References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com> <20050507000645.GA10731@epia2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20050507000645.GA10731@epia2.farid-hajji.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: John Pettitt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:14:22 -0000 cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 12:10:58PM -0700, John Pettitt wrote: > >>This news just in: >> >>Fafa Hafiz Krantz a research designer at Barbershop in Norway ( >>http://www.home.no/barbershop ) has asked that his posts be removed for >>all the archives of several public email lists. The request sparked a >>heated debate over the issue of copyright on email lists and raised >>interesting questions about specifically opting in to having posts >>archived. As is typical in such debates few of the participants cited >>any real evidence backing up their views and almost no attention was >>paid to the jurisdictional issues created by international lists. >> >>There was speculation that the request for deletion was prompted by the >>posters political views as referenced in his email signature which >>points to an article about middle east politics >>http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf >> >>With the debate he started Mr Krantz seems to have had ensured that his >>name will live in archives for the foreseeable future, referenced in >>articles such as this one which he has no copyright to and no control >>over. In the end the best strategy seems to be: if you don't want to >>be quoted don't say anything. >> >>--END-- > > > ROTFL! > > Now post this on Slashdot and have it picked up by Google News and > major news agencies. I guess, Fafa's bandwidth costs will go through > the roof in the blink of an eye. So will his page rank, incidentally. > Not that I'm suggesting doing this, of course! > > >>This news item may be archived and reposted in any medium without >>limitation including on search engines. > > > Absolutely! Copyright doesn't protect anyone from making a fool out > of themselves. > > Cheers, > -cpgost. > Hahaha - good stuff! Yanno, last I knew (and that was some time ago) You had to submit writings for review to the copyright folks here in the U.S. Then, if they deem it so, you then had to pay a fee to have it copyrighted. As I said - this may or may not be the case any longer, I didn't know that just by writing something, you were grandted all the nifty perks of it being copywritten. Then again - I'm not a lawyer. And to be frank, I couldn't care less either. -- Best regards, Chris Never play leapfrog with a photo enlarger. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:17:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CFE16A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:17:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4F543DA9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:17:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 101C01C00094 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:17:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EB74E1C00093 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:17:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507001725964.EB74E1C00093@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 02:17:25 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1857812133.20050507021725@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050507000645.GA10731@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com> <20050507000645.GA10731@epia2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:17:27 -0000 cpghost@cordula.ws writes: > Absolutely! Copyright doesn't protect anyone from making a fool out > of themselves. So I see. But that is not the purpose of copyright. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:19:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD9316A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:19:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E0743D53 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:19:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAFF60E7; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:19:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59014-10; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FC460D4; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:19:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427C09B5.2010703@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:20:05 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com> <20050507000645.GA10731@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <427C0876.4080506@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <427C0876.4080506@makeworld.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: John Pettitt cc: cpghost@cordula.ws cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:19:41 -0000 Chris wrote: > cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > >>On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 12:10:58PM -0700, John Pettitt wrote: >> >> >>>This news just in: >>> >>>Fafa Hafiz Krantz a research designer at Barbershop in Norway ( >>>http://www.home.no/barbershop ) has asked that his posts be removed for >>>all the archives of several public email lists. The request sparked a >>>heated debate over the issue of copyright on email lists and raised >>>interesting questions about specifically opting in to having posts >>>archived. As is typical in such debates few of the participants cited >>>any real evidence backing up their views and almost no attention was >>>paid to the jurisdictional issues created by international lists. >>> >>>There was speculation that the request for deletion was prompted by the >>>posters political views as referenced in his email signature which >>>points to an article about middle east politics >>>http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf >>> >>>With the debate he started Mr Krantz seems to have had ensured that his >>>name will live in archives for the foreseeable future, referenced in >>>articles such as this one which he has no copyright to and no control >>>over. In the end the best strategy seems to be: if you don't want to >>>be quoted don't say anything. >>> >>>--END-- >> >> >>ROTFL! >> >>Now post this on Slashdot and have it picked up by Google News and >>major news agencies. I guess, Fafa's bandwidth costs will go through >>the roof in the blink of an eye. So will his page rank, incidentally. >>Not that I'm suggesting doing this, of course! >> >> >> >>>This news item may be archived and reposted in any medium without >>>limitation including on search engines. >> >> >>Absolutely! Copyright doesn't protect anyone from making a fool out >>of themselves. >> >>Cheers, >>-cpgost. >> > > > Hahaha - good stuff! Yanno, last I knew (and that was some time ago) You > had to submit writings for review to the copyright folks here in the U.S. > > Then, if they deem it so, you then had to pay a fee to have it > copyrighted. As I said - this may or may not be the case any longer, I > didn't know that just by writing something, you were grandted all the > nifty perks of it being copywritten. Then again - I'm not a lawyer. And > to be frank, I couldn't care less either. > > Ahhh - Here we go... "Registration and the Copyright Process The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created. A work is "created" when it is fixed into a book, tape or electronic medium for the first time. Thus, for example, a song can be fixed in sheet music or in a digital tape, or both. No publication, registration or other action in the U.S. Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. However, in order to enforce the copyright and for many other practical reasons, it will be necessary to register the copyright with the U.S. Copyright Office. " http://www.legalzoom.com/law_library/copyrights/registration.html So - I really don't think users like Fafa have a heck of alot of recourse. Then again, this was only one link via Google. -- Best regards, Chris Never play leapfrog with a photo enlarger. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:20:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003F516A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:20:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD1943D7F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 18BE21C00092 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:20:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ED5741C0008B for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:20:42 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507002042972.ED5741C0008B@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 02:20:41 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1812892919.20050507022041@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <427C0876.4080506@makeworld.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com><427C0876.4080506@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:20:44 -0000 Chris writes: > Hahaha - good stuff! Yanno, last I knew (and that was some time ago) You > had to submit writings for review to the copyright folks here in the U.S. It has never been that way. Copyright exists in any work fixed in a tangible medium at the time of its creation. No formalities are necessary. > Then, if they deem it so, you then had to pay a fee to have it > copyrighted. No, you do not. You may be confusing copyright with patents or trademarks. > As I said - this may or may not be the case any longer ... It has never been the case. > ... I didn't know that just by writing something, you were grandted all the > nifty perks of it being copywritten. As a matter of fact, just by writing something, you implicitly receive all the benefits of copyright (not copywriting, which is something entirely different). No formalities are necessary. > Then again - I'm not a lawyer. And to be frank, I couldn't care less either. So it seems. It's worthwhile to at least make an effort not to infringe on the copyrights of others, though, as litigation can be costly. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:27:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EEA16A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:27:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453DF43D31 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:27:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=43972 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUDA8-00011e-Fs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:27:20 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:60867 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp5.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUDA7-0006rx-0h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:27:19 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 02:26:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <9e46c99e0505061454572a1bba@mail.gmail.com> <1647772623.20050507004959@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1647772623.20050507004959@wanadoo.fr> X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505070226.37132.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:27:22 -0000 On Saturday 07 May 2005 00:49, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Tomas Quintero writes: > > Theres just one more big problem with this, and all the DMCA stuff. > > > > I don't think Fafa is in America. I don't think he'd be a US Citizen > > either. Fafa, can you claim otherwise? I mean all indications in his > > sig hint towards him being a citizen of another country. > > It's possible to submit DMCA notifications from outside the U.S., if the > potential infringement is inside the U.S. Which shows how bad cratic souvereign counties are gettingthey're accepting US corp law as their own. Anyway, stuff your DMCA.. until we have a valid precedent for it I'd say stuff it. What if it's the US DMCA against a big French software house (assuming you have one). How would you think your gov would react? Now go back to someone complaining about their want-on sent messages being archived... yeah sure they would cave in. Dream on. And besides as other people have pointed out in the realm of cyberspace once you post something willingly, it's impossible to retain it and any perceived profit that would have been generated by it (yes, the court will ask about this loss of profit). It's a loosing shipwreck trying to go to court for that. It may just end up as what most people would expect: considered "fair use", and if it doesn't it's going to loose over technicalities alone, like when you answer back quoting the original message. Were you breaking copyrights? Not if the poster could have expected to be quoted and besides that if there's no (perceived) profit involved its moot anyhow. No judge is going to do that dance, not even in the crazy paranoid corporate stronghold culture we live in these days. Forget it. Still... would the OP please try to sue so that we get a nice jurisdiction about this. Rather now than later. Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:42:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB5116A4D6 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:42:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BFB43D7B for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:42:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 26C7E1C000A0 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:42:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 005831C00097 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:42:24 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507004225157.005831C00097@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 02:42:24 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1075392968.20050507024224@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200505070226.37132.danny@ricin.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <9e46c99e0505061454572a1bba@mail.gmail.com> <1647772623.20050507004959@wanadoo.fr> <200505070226.37132.danny@ricin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:42:26 -0000 Danny Pansters writes: > Which shows how bad cratic souvereign counties are gettingthey're accepting US > corp law as their own. Copyright law is fairly consistent in the industrialized world. > Anyway, stuff your DMCA.. until we have a valid precedent for it I'd say stuff > it. There's already a lot of jurisprudence to draw upon. > What if it's the US DMCA against a big French software house (assuming > you have one). How would you think your gov would react? I suppose my government would either apply French copyright law if the infringement were in France, or U.S. copyright law (i.e., the DMCA) if the infringement were in the U.S. > Now go back to someone complaining about their want-on sent messages > being archived... yeah sure they would cave in. Dream on. It's surprising what courts care about sometimes. > And besides as other people have pointed out in the realm of cyberspace once > you post something willingly, it's impossible to retain it and any perceived > profit that would have been generated by it (yes, the court will ask about > this loss of profit). It's a loosing shipwreck trying to go to court for > that. You can still obtain relief in various forms. > It may just end up as what most people would expect: considered "fair > use" ... I'm not aware of any cases in which reproduction of an entire work has been held to be fair use; fair use is usually interpreted pretty narrowly. > ... and if it doesn't it's going to loose over technicalities alone, like when > you answer back quoting the original message. Were you breaking copyrights? That's not a technicality, nor is it relevant to the main question. > No judge is going to do that dance, not even in the crazy paranoid > corporate stronghold culture we live in these days. Forget it. You don't know what a judge will do until you're in court. > Still... would the OP please try to sue so that we get a nice jurisdiction > about this. Rather now than later. Be careful what you wish for. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:45:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961C516A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:45:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86B843D99 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:45:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG300DQEGSHAT@smtp13.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j470jjHn005041; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:45 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j470jitg005040; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:44 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:44 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: To: Paul Schmehl Message-id: <20050507004544.GD3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:45:55 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 02:53:16PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, May 06, 2005 08:48:14 PM +0200 Anthony Atkielski > wrote: > > > >>So, if I *respond* to one of his posts (including his email address and > >>at least a portion of what he wrote) and therefore have *some* of his > >>"copyrighted" material in my post then he can request that *my* post be > >>removed *without* my permission? > > > >Not if your backquoting falls within the scope of "fair use," > > Here's a webpage that makes your arguments laughable: > > > It's a mailing list to discuss digital copyright. Its archives are > searchable, and there's no requirement to agree to that when you subscribe. So a site about copyrigth can not break the law? Just because something happens doesn't mean this is legal. > This one is even funnier: > > > Searchable archives going back to 1997. Same remark as above. > You *still* haven't provided *one* link to prove anything you've said. On > the Internet, that's tantamount to an admission that you're blowing smoke. So have you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html http://www.google.com/search?q=BERNE+CONVENTION&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 He is legaly prity much correct in everything I have read. It basicly comes down to this: You have copyrigth over everything you write. This requires that one need to agree to a licence before others can freely copy this to there sites. > I doubt seriously your *extremely* strict interpretation of copyright would > hold up in any court of law in the US or anywhere else for that matter. I > have no doubt that you could find a judge somewhere to rule in your favor. > After all, judges make incredibly stupid rulings daily. But in the end, > your argument would fall on deaf ears when saner minds were engaged. > > When you post to a public list, your post are not copyrighted material. > They exist in the public domain. And *this* list *is* a public forum. This is only true if the author agrees to this. This is way shrink wrap licences exist. One can not clain the didn't knew about this. They clearly had to posibilty to do so before accepting the deal. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:49:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793AE16A4D4; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:49:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3113943D7D; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:49:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG3005C3GYKMO@smtp13.wxs.nl>; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:49:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j470nOpj005056; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:49:24 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j470nNJ8005055; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:49:23 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 02:49:23 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> To: Marc Fonvieille Message-id: <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:49:33 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 05:13:16PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 01:06:48PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > > > > > This is a recurring theme. It's really *NOT* the fault of the > > > postmaster of FreeBSD.org that you posted to public mailing lists. > > > > It _is_ the fault of the mailing list manager that posts are being > > archived without the permission of mailing-list members. Members must > > be required to explicitly grant permission when they subscribe. > > > > > The Handbook section about mailing lists[1] says: > > > > What the Handbook says is irrelevant, because nobody is required to read > > it in order to subscribe to a list. > > > > Well, the "Mailing lists" link on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ homepage > points on > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL That true and this would be a fine argument if this where the only way to get the list adress. This isn't the case. Now it the warning you get, afther you get before you are realy on the list, would point to this stating it got the conditions then this would be a compelling argument. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:51:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7421216A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:51:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204E743D3F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:51:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j470pe4M015442; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:51:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: "Mrad James Deane" Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 20:51:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.84, clamav-milter version 0.84e on smarthost2.sentex.ca X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set http port 80 to a no root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 00:51:42 -0000 On Thu, 05 May 2005 16:23:38 +0200, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >hello , i would like to know how can i set a permission to a non root = user=20 >to use the http public port 80 . Just a thought, but you could use ipf, or ipfw or pf to redirect inbound port 80 requests to something above port 1024. That way you dont have to start your app as a root process nor worry about dropping privs. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:00:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD1516A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:00:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA64543D81 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:00:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG300D2AHGLAT@smtp13.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:00:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j4710Dga005132 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:00:13 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j4710DcY005131 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:00:13 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 03:00:13 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:00:23 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:42:29PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > > It's certainly no secret that these posts are archived out there ... > > It doesn't have to be a secret; subscribers must still agree to it. > > It's no secret that software is copyrighted; however, software companies > still force users to accept a EULA so that they cannot claim that they > didn't know they were licensing copyrighted material. > > It's no secret that most computer systems are not open to everyone; > however, sysadmins (at least those who know what they are doing) still > must put messages in login procedures that advise users of the > restricted character of access to the system. Otherwise intruders could > say that they didn't know access was restricted. In my country forcing you way in to a computer system is a criminal act. It can be compared to breaking in to a house. > > Better yet start > > some arguments with the governments and businesses that are video > > taping people with security cameras on street corners and inside > > stores. > > Many jurisdictions require that persons on private property be apprised > of any video recording, precisely because of the privacy implications. > Persons attending a concert that is being videotaped also must be > apprised of this on their tickets; their consent to recording cannot > necessarily be presumed. Here there are even rules about recording on the street. The (security) camera's can't be pointed to a house in sucha way that it would single out anyone inside. Also anyone recorded on the street have rigth that they can use to prevent them being on TV. It not used very much, but it exist. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:00:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9F516A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:00:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E1C43D7E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 6F842153882; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:00:39 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:00:39 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050507010038.GH9865@tikitechnologies.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Richard J. Valenta" References: <5EEBE9C3C61D1142994C6B620C51E847110A73@depot.weblinkmo.com> <44hdhgh5nx.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44hdhgh5nx.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: "Richard J. Valenta" Subject: Re: 5 day lockup on Densitron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:00:40 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:58:58AM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Richard J. Valenta" writes: > > At work we had a machine which had in it a 200mhz pentium - the machine > > was an all-in-one flat panel made by a company named Densitron for > > industrial use. On one side of it was a the flat/touch panel, and the > > idea was that it was a complete machine that could be installed into a > > wall - how cool is that? ... > > So I restarted it, and logged in as root, ran top - and let it go for a > > few days. Alsways a lockup, I've now done this a few times and it seems > > to happen at 5 days, 1 hour and roughly 40 minutes. Without fail, after > > 5 days I'll come downstairs and find it locked up at 5 days, 1 hour, > > etc... > > > > I'm at a loss as to why, I'm no expert with the crontab, so maybe I'm > > missing something. But I'm looking for ideas, thanks. > > This is pretty weird, all right. The time period isn't a round number > in any units I can work out, in base 10 or 2. It's probably some kind > of coincidence, so try to think of common factors. If this was designed as an industrial PC, intended to run specialized software, it may have some specialized hardware. What you describe could conceivably be the result of a special counter or RTC chip running as a "watchdog timer" with a count-down from boot time, and generating some kind of special interrupt when that countdown reaches 0. Watchdog devices are sometimes set up to require the application software to "stroke" the timer periodically (reset it in software) with the intent to force a reset of the system (usually a reboot) after such-and-such a period of time if not stroked. Sometimes they're even tied to the system hardware reset line; the idea is to prevent a software lockup from taking the system down indefinitely, though you're seeing the reverse effect. This is all speculation, and it might sound like the idea is completely wacky, but I have worked on hardware with watchdogs, though it's been a long time and it wasn't PC hardware. If this is the case (a big if) you'd need to know exactly what the hardware is, and what it's set up to do on countdown, before you can begin figuring out how to fix it. Here are a couple off-the-cuff ideas. One possible way to check for a watchdog - boot it off of something else, e.g. a DOS disk such as a Win 98 startup disk, then leave it sitting at the command prompt for 5 days etc. and see if it stops responding, reboots or does something else weird. It won't prove anything if it doesn't - memory usage and interrupt setup will be very different in that scenario - but it might point you in some interesting direction. Also, scour the BIOS menu settings (I assume it has a BIOS?) for anything that sounds like it might relate. I'm not sure what else to tell you, other than to check with the manufacturer if possible. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@tikitechnologies.com Tiki Technologies Lead Programmer/Software Architect "I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide..." -- 'Whip-Smart', Liz Phair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:04:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2096516A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:04:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr9.addr.com (addr9.addr.com [209.249.147.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F355F43D5F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1])j4714UIj026254 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3BD716299; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:04:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 02:04:08 +0100 From: markzero To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050507010408.GB55977@logik.ath.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l76fUT7nc3MelDdI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Key: http://darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt X-Fingerprint: B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (10%) X-ADDRSignature: 253530DD Subject: Re: set http port 80 to a no root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:04:33 -0000 --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Thu, 05 May 2005 16:23:38 +0200, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions >=20 > hello , i would like to know how can i set a permission to a non root use= r=20 > to use the http public port 80 . portacl is excellent for this purpose. I have been using it for some time and it has never let me down. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac-portacl.html --=20 PGP: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQnwUBqfaOQ/e/53RAQpBrA//SYJWAiSWbe5skKjTdC1j3NoFNXoyqZXp /ldv1tbCZfMH8u/DYlgDB/vjNZfSZZ9pQ6uiubWTVOxXSC93Vcpw1dRx++PxdJOV F+ItObJ9iBLPwNnED9fDgOM7n8YoewqZ6daw/dgeeIRrA8MnSWjDAlMZ0QXSWVsQ tCDBSTeU12ka1ZRZ/dOwyXG7jkDeCDx+vFpaiAmdY8YPsS4ShRiwLoUOSvVouFiH Dfzx8tpQM63p8sjpkLinturCE7Ii7a2dU0ebHYBM5PZJkqmRkF9s0Ga/AMxo3AGT 3G0Sc7Srp3TzcTKCJ68qD2l+OjCHyVp4bKu6pqSu9apEdg29wmxAjqrM6cB7rW+4 fUC7rVF51Cw7sqUNLIvXRFjRq+LzWbyLasdSPh0VSQL2Er7XeICqGn5Ska6iYjFu 78/cFGFTA9waPgNX/vL7u9TllzooJBzR7+efbM+bKOQZRaTMwdzKShDx5UfzyvBF BW717wGqwtKEIuWMcq/Y22R141nqbAorWukcU4sLzOjFq8OPPhso7q/1Mlxt3h8y s5cU2XBOwm4fkx7DaW0lpfQTAG+fSC0vYdcczUQPa+4/VI3xxeqoOrbxxKoAfp7p TvAsWH3wQQOI78AE52OOpGFi2FhOQpaVHCmyqWAlMKdEqyF6g5qpTnZ6yiN0Hx27 fyGbjWklazY= =MCnB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:08:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF9916A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:08:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55AF43DA6 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:08:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D9F041C000A5 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:08:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B91351C000A4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:08:14 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507010814758.B91351C000A4@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 03:08:14 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:08:16 -0000 Alex de Kruijff writes: > In my country forcing you way in to a computer system is a criminal act. > It can be compared to breaking in to a house. It is in most countries. However, persons prosecuted for such crimes have mounted successful defenses based on the fact that they were never explicitly told that the systems they penetrated were legally accessible only to authorized users. Thus, careful sysadmins today explicitly display a message at login telling the user that only authorized users are permitted to access the system. Many operating systems even make special provisions for this. > Here there are even rules about recording on the street. The (security) > camera's can't be pointed to a house in sucha way that it would single > out anyone inside. Also anyone recorded on the street have rigth that > they can use to prevent them being on TV. It not used very much, but it > exist. Those are image rights, as opposed to photography rights. In many jurisdictions, there are no restrictions on photography in public, but you may still need property or model releases before actually using the images taken in public for certain purposes. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:12:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA9516A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:12:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.wxs.nl (smtp14.wxs.nl [195.121.6.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5A843D54 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp14.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG300GTWI0PHO@smtp14.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:12:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j471CHsP005454; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:12:17 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j471CHmF005453; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:12:17 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 03:12:17 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> To: Kirk Strauser Message-id: <20050507011216.GG3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> <200505061204.22212.kirk@strauser.com> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:12:27 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 12:04:10PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Friday 06 May 2005 05:52, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > DMCA > > So, how's that working out for you with non-US third-party mirrors that > aren't subject to American law in any way? For EU country the procedure is similar. (I don't have an anwser for non-BERNE CONVENTION countries, like Canada) -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:23:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AD816A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:23:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B836243D8A for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:23:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG300IMUIJBRX@smtp18.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j471NRIN005512 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:23:27 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j471NRIS005511 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:23:27 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 03:23:27 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <1812892919.20050507022041@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050507012327.GH3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <1812892919.20050507022041@wanadoo.fr> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:23:37 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:20:41AM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chris writes: > > > Hahaha - good stuff! Yanno, last I knew (and that was some time ago) You > > had to submit writings for review to the copyright folks here in the U.S. > > It has never been that way. I bleave this is true for tue USA until 1989 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:28:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14BA16A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:28:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.wxs.nl (smtp14.wxs.nl [195.121.6.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DECA43DA1 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:28:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp14.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG300HZKIQY2R@smtp14.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:28:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j471S2K6005543 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:28:02 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j471S2RX005542 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:28:02 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 03:28:02 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050507012802.GI3564@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:28:11 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 03:08:14AM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Alex de Kruijff writes: > > > In my country forcing you way in to a computer system is a criminal act. > > It can be compared to breaking in to a house. > > It is in most countries. However, persons prosecuted for such crimes > have mounted successful defenses based on the fact that they were never > explicitly told that the systems they penetrated were legally accessible > only to authorized users. Thus, careful sysadmins today explicitly > display a message at login telling the user that only authorized users > are permitted to access the system. Many operating systems even make > special provisions for this. Where these persons prosecuted lately? Because in the early days lot of computer laws didn't exist. This made it easier to have a defence agains such lawsuites. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:36:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27C16A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:36:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq3.home.nl (smtpq3.home.nl [213.51.128.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A6843D8A for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:36:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.135] (port=43440 helo=smtp4.home.nl) by smtpq3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUEFI-0001af-Qh; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:36:44 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:50049 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp4.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUEFH-0001kf-NA; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:36:43 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 03:36:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200505070226.37132.danny@ricin.com> <1075392968.20050507024224@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1075392968.20050507024224@wanadoo.fr> X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505070336.01785.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:36:47 -0000 On Saturday 07 May 2005 02:42, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Danny Pansters writes: > > Which shows how bad cratic souvereign counties are gettingthey're > > accepting US corp law as their own. > Copyright law is fairly consistent in the industrialized world. Yeah it's also remarkably about (perceived) profit and not about personal expression (at all). Copyright has nothing to do with freedom of expression although they're often linked (by the wrong parties usually). So I'm longing for a number (amount) to slap on this then we can compare notes proper. Got one? > > Anyway, stuff your DMCA.. until we have a valid precedent for it I'd say > > stuff it. > > There's already a lot of jurisprudence to draw upon. No not on general textual copyright and certainly not on casually (re)produced text in a context where one can expect it to be reused even being told it will be. Got one? DMCA is more about patents than about copyrights anyway (both ways it is bad, if only because corporate protection doesnt belong in criminal justice, heck it doesnt even belong in private (as in persons) justice to begin with, it should be the outer peel not the inner, but well, welcome to 1985). But nowadays corporations are the only legal entities fulkly enjoying "freedom" as written down and meant for individuals. But I digress. You're the one who is confused by copyright vs patents and all. Copyright occurs automatically on everything you write or do or create (if your time hasn't been contractully bought by your employer, talk about slavery) but it is about redistribution. And redistribution becomes relevant if any gain or profit is involved. Personal comments on mailinglists hardly apply. Of course if you make a piece of software or for example make a poem and publish it through a public mailing list you might have some merit, but I'd think that tha charter for that mailing list alone qualifies as a no-no for that. After all you know what you're going into. Besides a "work" such as a piece of software or a poem should have a license covering (maybe) use (end use license) and (copyright) redistribution. Neither takes away the default reasoning that seems appropriate when posting to a public and archived forum. Unless OP slaps a license on her postings it's all moot and considered public domain. Perhaps our mailing lists when you enter it or log on via the web pages should have a public domain or BSD or else if named policy laid out right there which applies to postings, especially when people sign up. That way we can avoid this babble which comes up ever so often. > > What if it's the US DMCA against a big French software house (assuming > > you have one). How would you think your gov would react? > > I suppose my government would either apply French copyright law if the > infringement were in France, or U.S. copyright law (i.e., the DMCA) if > the infringement were in the U.S. They'd choose the option that makes the most profit, you fool. What else? And I reckon they never be in disagreement because they can freely decide which law to use? Broken system only beneficial to US/F authorities and multinationals it seems. But hey if you're happy with that... very democratic. > > Now go back to someone complaining about their want-on sent messages > > being archived... yeah sure they would cave in. Dream on. > > It's surprising what courts care about sometimes. Yeah about me legally marrying my male partner or not. That's the level the courts are at today. Let's leave (court) politics alone, both you and I have a reasonable idea about what is accepted in and what isn't. I'm in Holland and France isn't that different (in many cases better). The US however is a different ballgame and not one to be proud of to defend. > > > And besides as other people have pointed out in the realm of cyberspace > > once you post something willingly, it's impossible to retain it and any > > perceived profit that would have been generated by it (yes, the court > > will ask about this loss of profit). It's a loosing shipwreck trying to > > go to court for that. > > You can still obtain relief in various forms. You need relief not me, and hopefully it will stay that way. > > It may just end up as what most people would expect: considered "fair > > use" ... > > I'm not aware of any cases in which reproduction of an entire work has > been held to be fair use; fair use is usually interpreted pretty > narrowly. Well, your awareness luckily isn't any measure. > > ... and if it doesn't it's going to loose over technicalities alone, like > > when you answer back quoting the original message. Were you breaking > > copyrights? > > That's not a technicality, nor is it relevant to the main question. So that's why you don't go into it I guess. > > No judge is going to do that dance, not even in the crazy paranoid > > corporate stronghold culture we live in these days. Forget it. > > You don't know what a judge will do until you're in court. > > > Still... would the OP please try to sue so that we get a nice > > jurisdiction about this. Rather now than later. > > Be careful what you wish for. Oh no, I want it now rather than later. Later will be worse even if with less merit. Will you, as you argue so strongly in favor? By all means, do it. It's much better than the (admitted) uncertainty we're in now over lots of legal subjects. The BSD way is clarity first, so we would benifit even if it would be a short term regression. Let OP sue and pay for the procedures, that would be nice. Greets, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:39:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0308416A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:39:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B141543D1D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:39:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1098573nzf for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 18:39:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bzOMCOnjfsRnCxAGymW6zGRLDD64mfWGgBGFPGtg/Somil9OPR5q3L1TrTE3d1t9qOOVYBMBXMMmcNYk5X0wINc9zhlqizh6AyHD9hmZyY27L5lJnLkhJUW9YQvuhGlovQFx897wLAGzN8iRvy5TLz+NiXEJT6m27tX1hFrMsS8= Received: by 10.36.10.20 with SMTP id 20mr874616nzj; Fri, 06 May 2005 18:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.19 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e46c99e0505061839d232914@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:39:10 -0400 From: Tomas Quintero To: sn1tch In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD ip alias X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:39:11 -0000 On 5/6/05, sn1tch wrote: > I have an issue that is driving me mad, it may be something simple > that I am overlooking but any insight would be great. >=20 > I have a freebsd machine with 2 nics and one being used. The first has > 2 ip addresses, one of them via alias. I have BIND listening x.x.x.19 > and regular operations on x.x.x.18. My problem is that apache wants to > listen on both IPs and I dont want someone being able to point their > browser at the ns1.domain.com and see a web page, so how do i get > apache to stop listening on this IP. I have tried binding it to the > .18 address and even setting Listen x.x.x.18:80 but it still wants to > go to the main "apache TLS/SSL has been installed" page when i point > it at x.x.x.19. Any thoughts as to what I might be doing wrong? Are you using Virtual Hosts? Have you actually tried restarting Apache since you editted the Listen line? --=20 -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:46:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D5A16A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:46:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orthanc.st.hmc.edu (orthanc.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.56.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D14C43DA3 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:46:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mac@orthanc.st.hmc.edu) Received: by orthanc.st.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48E3F61D0; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:47:26 -0700 From: Mac Mason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050507014725.GD600@orthanc.st.hmc.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200505070145.50210.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xkXJwpr35CY/Lc3I" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505070145.50210.danny@ricin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:46:08 -0000 --xkXJwpr35CY/Lc3I Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you considered hardware issues? Random reboots might be caused by cool= ing issues, or other such things. --Mac --=20 Julian "Mac" Mason mac@cs.hmc.edu Computer Science '06 (310)-882-8068 Harvey Mudd College =20 --xkXJwpr35CY/Lc3I Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCfB4t1AphoTGXiN0RAp98AJ9AsIYGPj3VL7D6yJf4/LIRebVtRQCgj78Y ztInGwVuD7OSri9XvW7lnLY= =6+F2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xkXJwpr35CY/Lc3I-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:40:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CDA16A4D4; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94BE43D86; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.123.39]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19024708 for multiple; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:09:05 -0700 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 21:40:03 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" Message-ID: <20050507214003.7cac15a0@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050506192022.A45F64BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050506192022.A45F64BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 8, in=12, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.39 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: dnelson@allantgroup.com cc: Warner Losh Subject: Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 02:40:19 -0000 On Fri, 06 May 2005 14:20:22 -0500 "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" wrote: > > Hello Mr. Nelson and Mr. Losh! > > > It's easy enough to change the format string in > > subr_bus.c:device_print_prettyname() to pad out the devicename. > > I am not qualified to do this. I wish I were. > How about you guys? :) > > > However, you may prefer to just put up a splash screen (see the > > splash manpage), so the user doesn't even see the kernel messages > > at all. > > We can't just forget about it and pray for it to go away. > > This is an aesthetic violation to FreeBSD's professional image, > that is considered to be more important now than ever. > > Now that we have logo and website design competitions going to > completely revamp of the FreeBSD of the 70s, perhaps it's also time > to update the ASCII design of this system? I personally find the old methode a lot easier to read, compared to the new one. If a change is wanted, why not make such a thing like this a kernel option? > > Many of his suggestions are subtle changes to the probe messages > > in addition to the format string. > > > > Warner > > Indeed they are subtle. > But it's more like removing zits. With laser or whatever. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:44:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40C616A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:44:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAA143D5A for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:44:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7BB071C0009F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:44:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 619BB1C00081 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:44:16 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507024416399.619BB1C00081@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 04:44:16 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050507012802.GI3564@Alex.lan> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> <20050507012802.GI3564@Alex.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 02:44:18 -0000 Alex de Kruijff writes: > Where these persons prosecuted lately? No. The first I heard of these problems was probably a good 20 years ago or so, and they probably predated that. Nevertheless, it is standard practice to include such warnings today. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:52:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E833016A4D4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:52:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6351643D82 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 929AA1C00098 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 62EED1C00089 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:52:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507025249405.62EED1C00089@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 04:52:48 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <698260003.20050507045248@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200505070336.01785.danny@ricin.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200505070226.37132.danny@ricin.com> <1075392968.20050507024224@wanadoo.fr> <200505070336.01785.danny@ricin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 02:52:51 -0000 Danny Pansters writes: > Yeah it's also remarkably about (perceived) profit and not about > personal expression (at all). Copyright has nothing to do with freedom > of expression although they're often linked (by the wrong parties > usually). Whatever the motivations behind it, it is still the law. I know that the geek community likes to affect a total disregard for the rule of law, but the rest of the world is fortunately not so inclined. > No not on general textual copyright and certainly not on casually > (re)produced text in a context where one can expect it to be reused > even being told it will be. Got one? Nothing comes immediately to mind. A domain without established precedents is always dangerous ground. > DMCA is more about patents than about copyrights anyway ... The DMCA has nothing to do with patents. Patents are distinct from copyrights. > Unless OP slaps a license on her postings it's all moot and considered > public domain. No, it is not; this is a very prevalent misconception. > Perhaps our mailing lists when you enter it or log on via the web > pages should have a public domain or BSD or else if named policy laid > out right there which applies to postings, especially when people sign > up. That way we can avoid this babble which comes up ever so often. It would be simple enough to require that subscribers agree to public archives or other conditions as a prerequisite to joining a list. > They'd choose the option that makes the most profit, you fool. The government does not stand to profit in these cases, whatever the decision taken. > What else? The public interest is a strong motivator, and the need to maintain order. > And I reckon they never be in disagreement because they can freely decide > which law to use? Broken system only beneficial to US/F authorities and > multinationals it seems. But hey if you're happy with that... very > democratic. I'm afraid I don't understand many of your comments. > Yeah about me legally marrying my male partner or not. Marriage is not relevant to the question under discussion. > Let's leave (court) politics alone, both you and I have a reasonable > idea about what is accepted in and what isn't. Not necessarily. As you have already implied, specific jurisprudence in this domain is lacking, although there are precedents in related situations. > I'm in Holland and France isn't that different (in many cases better). As far as I know, the FreeBSD organization is based in the U.S., so Holland and France are irrelevant. > You need relief not me, and hopefully it will stay that way. I didn't have anyone specific in mind. > Well, your awareness luckily isn't any measure. I am better informed than most in this domain. > So that's why you don't go into it I guess. Correct. > Oh no, I want it now rather than later. Later will be worse even if > with less merit. Will you, as you argue so strongly in favor? By all > means, do it. It's much better than the (admitted) uncertainty we're > in now over lots of legal subjects. I don't understand this, either. > The BSD way is clarity first, so we would benifit even if it would be > a short term regression. Let OP sue and pay for the procedures, that > would be nice. It's not nice when you're the party that has to pay damages. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 03:29:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BFE16A4D6 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:29:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq2.home.nl (smtpq2.home.nl [213.51.128.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C254043D7D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:29:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.133] (port=34251 helo=smtp2.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUG0H-0004xa-WC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:29:21 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:62101 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DUG0G-0003Np-S5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:29:20 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 05:28:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200505070336.01785.danny@ricin.com> <698260003.20050507045248@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <698260003.20050507045248@wanadoo.fr> X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505070528.38909.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 03:29:23 -0000 On Saturday 07 May 2005 04:52, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Danny Pansters writes: > > Yeah it's also remarkably about (perceived) profit and not about > > personal expression (at all). Copyright has nothing to do with freedom > > of expression although they're often linked (by the wrong parties > > usually). > > Whatever the motivations behind it, it is still the law. I know that > the geek community likes to affect a total disregard for the rule of > law, but the rest of the world is fortunately not so inclined. Now you lump me into some self defined "geek community". Apparently I don't respect the rule of law now. Isn't that slander? Or perhaps you can read minds (me and others) that'll go well in court. By extension that also includes the people that make and sustain FreeBSD. Nice way to commend them. > > No not on general textual copyright and certainly not on casually > > (re)produced text in a context where one can expect it to be reused > > even being told it will be. Got one? > > Nothing comes immediately to mind. A domain without established > precedents is always dangerous ground. So the answer is DUNNO thank you. > > DMCA is more about patents than about copyrights anyway ... > > The DMCA has nothing to do with patents. Patents are distinct from > copyrights. > > > Unless OP slaps a license on her postings it's all moot and considered > > public domain. > > No, it is not; this is a very prevalent misconception. How else are generally broadcasted text messages covered then? Elaborate please. Perhaps make distinctions per media if appropriate. > > > Perhaps our mailing lists when you enter it or log on via the web > > pages should have a public domain or BSD or else if named policy laid > > out right there which applies to postings, especially when people sign > > up. That way we can avoid this babble which comes up ever so often. > > It would be simple enough to require that subscribers agree to public > archives or other conditions as a prerequisite to joining a list. Yes but it already pretty much does IMHO. Perhaps it could be stated more absolutely. > > They'd choose the option that makes the most profit, you fool. > > The government does not stand to profit in these cases, whatever the > decision taken. No, they don't care about their major corps who make up mosty of the gross turnover each year. Sure. Mostly they're government subsedaries even so. In can elaborate in length about the nuclear/reprocessing industry in France and how private and gubernational forces are tied but you'd dismiss it as a special case anyhow. > > What else? > > The public interest is a strong motivator, and the need to maintain > order. Which means that FreeBSD's openness is somehow at fault? > > And I reckon they never be in disagreement because they can freely decide > > which law to use? Broken system only beneficial to US/F authorities and > > multinationals it seems. But hey if you're happy with that... very > > democratic. > > I'm afraid I don't understand many of your comments. Sure. > > Yeah about me legally marrying my male partner or not. > > Marriage is not relevant to the question under discussion. Neither is much of what you tend to bring in either. *That* was the whole point honey :) > > Let's leave (court) politics alone, both you and I have a reasonable > > idea about what is accepted in and what isn't. > > Not necessarily. As you have already implied, specific jurisprudence in > this domain is lacking, although there are precedents in related > situations. So don't claim it is conclusive. It is void. Void. Void. > > I'm in Holland and France isn't that different (in many cases better). > > As far as I know, the FreeBSD organization is based in the U.S., so > Holland and France are irrelevant. You were the one talking about superimposing DMCA upon your national laws. > > You need relief not me, and hopefully it will stay that way. > > I didn't have anyone specific in mind. > > > Well, your awareness luckily isn't any measure. > > I am better informed than most in this domain. Yes, but perhaps not all, or not even most. Someone who can read code can also read legalese. > > So that's why you don't go into it I guess. > > Correct. Aha. > > Oh no, I want it now rather than later. Later will be worse even if > > with less merit. Will you, as you argue so strongly in favor? By all > > means, do it. It's much better than the (admitted) uncertainty we're > > in now over lots of legal subjects. > > I don't understand this, either. ... ok ... > > The BSD way is clarity first, so we would benifit even if it would be > > a short term regression. Let OP sue and pay for the procedures, that > > would be nice. > > It's not nice when you're the party that has to pay damages. It won't be me anyhow (if applying your ethics). Cheers, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 03:34:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E752916A4D6 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:34:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from office.paramon.ru (gw-Paramon-chel.suttk.ru [62.165.36.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7545243D62 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:34:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) Received: from office.paramon.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by office.paramon.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j473YVhr022471; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:34:31 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost)j473YUWN022468; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:34:30 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: office.paramon.ru: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 09:34:30 +0600 (YEKST) From: Ilia Chipitsine To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20050506142534.GC77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20050507093057.H22406@office.paramon.ru> References: <20050506192142.U7411@office.paramon.ru> <20050506142534.GC77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.84/871/Thu May 5 19:50:45 2005 on office.paramon.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-102.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00,DEAR_SOMETHING, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on office.paramon.ru cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plextor PX-716a supported by burncd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 03:34:43 -0000 > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:23:02PM +0600, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: >> Dear Sirs, >> >> I'm having problems with making that device work (FreeBSD-5.3R) with >> burncd. Is it unsupported or am I doing something wrong ? > > Could you be more specific that "problems"? For instance, do you have > sufficient access to the device node? What does burncd report. (DVD+RW inserted) design# burncd -f /dev/acd0 blank burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCBLANK): Input/output error design# design# burncd -f /dev/acd0 -s max data ~ilia/1.iso fixate next writeable LBA 0 writing from file /home/ilia/1.iso size 430 KB only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes: Input/output error fixating CD, please wait.. > > If burncd doesn't work, have you tried cdrecord from ports? If you want > to use cdrecord, add the following devices to your kernel (or load the > appropriate modules): > > device atapicam # Emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI via CAM > # Requires scbus and pass > device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) > device cd # Compact Disc > device da # Direct Access (disks) > device pass # Passthrough device > > See my freebsd page for setup tips on this configuration: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ thanks, I'll look at it. > > AFAIK, you need dvd+rw-tools to record DVDs. burncd won't handle dvd+-rw ? oops, I should have read man page, it seems that dvd has special options on burncd. > > Roland > -- > R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign > r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail > public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 03:56:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8B316A4D6 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:56:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F5D43D8B for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:56:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C21D9AC for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net (pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.215.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3B093 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:55:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.crystalsphere.multiverse To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050506205146.R63342@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: CVS tag for specific release candidate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 03:56:02 -0000 I was using 5.4-RC1 until today. Today I attempted to update to 5.4, but I can't get into single-user mode without a panic. I'm just about certain that this is because of the work in progress in that ata-raid driver right now. I'm using a Promise FastTrack S150 TX2Plus, and it's not happy with the recent changes. I'd be glad to help test the changes, but right now I'm more concerned with getting my system in a stable shape. I want to go back to 5.4-RC1, but I can't seem to get the CVS tag right. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 04:06:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D312E16A4D6 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:06:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D3543D92 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:06:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934F19FF; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net (pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.215.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C5B93; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.crystalsphere.multiverse To: Luke Dean In-Reply-To: <20050506205146.R63342@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> Message-ID: <20050506210346.J63342@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> References: <20050506205146.R63342@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS tag for specific release candidate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 04:06:16 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2005, Luke Dean wrote: > I was using 5.4-RC1 until today. > Today I attempted to update to 5.4, but I can't get into single-user mode > without a panic. I'm just about certain that this is because of the work in > progress in that ata-raid driver right now. > I'm using a Promise FastTrack S150 TX2Plus, and it's not happy with the > recent changes. I'd be glad to help test the changes, but right now I'm more > concerned with getting my system in a stable shape. > I want to go back to 5.4-RC1, but I can't seem to get the CVS tag right. Ah, nevermind. I just found out I can combine a tag and a date together, like: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_4 date=2005.03.28.00.00.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 04:08:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D7516A4D6 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:08:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731D743D69 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:08:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 729DD515EE; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:08:19 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Luke Dean Message-ID: <20050507040819.GA18513@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050506205146.R63342@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050506205146.R63342@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS tag for specific release candidate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 04:08:20 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:55:56PM -0700, Luke Dean wrote: >=20 > I was using 5.4-RC1 until today. > Today I attempted to update to 5.4, but I can't get into single-user mode= =20 > without a panic. I'm just about certain that this is because of the work= =20 > in progress in that ata-raid driver right now. > I'm using a Promise FastTrack S150 TX2Plus, and it's not happy with the= =20 > recent changes. I'd be glad to help test the changes, but right now I'm= =20 > more concerned with getting my system in a stable shape. > I want to go back to 5.4-RC1, but I can't seem to get the CVS tag right. Release candidates are not tagged. You can use a specific date with the -D option to roll back to before they were committed. This is also more helpful because you can isolate the specific change that caused you problems. Unfortunately by now it might be too late to get this fixed for 5.4-RELEASE, but at least it can be fixed soon afterwards if there is a problem. Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCfD8yWry0BWjoQKURAod4AKDmhtk8iCcu7eB9LZyFbLBW75feCgCg8/Hb zIAqDSBNynHF+Q/N1MA94aE= =Hejy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 04:32:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFAD16A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:32:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9386843D66 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:32:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.65.223]) by mta9.adelphia.netESMTP <20050507043204.GWIA8952.mta9.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:32:04 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C0805B501; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 00:32:04 -0400 From: Parv To: Reginaldo Tavares Message-ID: <20050507043204.GA24515@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Reginaldo Tavares , questions@FreeBSD.org, regi References: <000801c551b2$e0833190$2201a8c0@gorila> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000801c551b2$e0833190$2201a8c0@gorila> cc: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: regi Subject: Re: NFS help config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 04:32:05 -0000 in message <000801c551b2$e0833190$2201a8c0@gorila>, wrote Reginaldo Tavares thusly... > > I´ve been trying to start a NFS server and a client. Both PC > machines are 5.2.1 FreeBSD. > > I decided to follow the on line handbook instructions, but I can´t > get the result. The system gave me the message: > > RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC Timed out > > after I trying to mount a filesystem in my client machine. > > What could I do ?? "rpc error on nfs" on Google ... http://groups.google.ru/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&th=42a5a6d4145df405&seekm=1113265426.00276314.1113252007%4010.7.7.3&frame=off - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 06:13:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F5716A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 06:13:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFD943D98 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 06:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1341347nzk for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 23:13:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=sccraNEDLzHqPHqOrtUkornIO9VaY9JyGqYM2T3cdfcdQe21KSgLGYjPKNCjrBa0s/oMhorzSrZzHGE5P+8Gt91uL+w6Wgfpl2wVYB1pCrLuE706MWcPjsCTqj0Ypi7Bd8zzyShsDd40uGalIsFNZ3ymaC84mUqGG05R0Z/u41I= Received: by 10.36.91.2 with SMTP id o2mr784318nzb; Fri, 06 May 2005 23:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.48.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <810a540e050506231311654663@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 00:13:02 -0600 From: Pat Maddox To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: lighttpd + fastcgi socket connection error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pat Maddox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 06:13:03 -0000 I've managed to get lighttpd with fastcgi working on FreeBSD 5.3 a couple times, but every time I restart lighttpd, it doesn't work anymore. I get the following message in my error log: 2005-05-06 23:55:05: (mod_fastcgi.c.1466) connect failed: 8 Connection refused 61 0 /tmp/rails.socket-3 I've never been able to figure out what causes that problem. And it really frustrates me that sometimes it'll run fine, but usually not. Can anyone tell me how to make it work, and explain to me what's going on so I know how to do things right in the future? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 06:33:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1391A16A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 06:33:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DFF43D1D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 06:33:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so660193nzo for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 23:33:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TrULywaMdEtElRJQSneyPnM6+gy1jHh5mqj8FcAhWtkAFAj1qFWOLW9GfyZrzVG+9U8CnV4EyWUkq5IygfDKF4CFWIjJ8Gko8IAIOZ8PoN40iYNAD1A4JSbxzf3pubXcdLBGwvs9A2W3I5w9Ox/XpzWDBBqtllgBB0LlAL26HRQ= Received: by 10.36.32.10 with SMTP id f10mr802792nzf; Fri, 06 May 2005 23:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.48.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <810a540e050506233354db1401@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 00:33:48 -0600 From: Pat Maddox To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <810a540e050506231311654663@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <810a540e050506231311654663@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: lighttpd + fastcgi socket connection error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pat Maddox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 06:33:49 -0000 Also, I occasionally get a 500 Internal Server Error, with the following in the logs: 2005-05-07 00:32:01: (mod_fastcgi.c.1921) unexpected end-of-file (perhaps the fastcgi process died): pid: 6342 fcgi-fd: 8 remote-fd: 6 2005-05-07 00:32:01: (mod_fastcgi.c.2743) child exited, pid: 6342 status: 0= =20 2005-05-07 00:32:01: (mod_fastcgi.c.2782) response not sent, request sent: 960 connection-fd: 6 fcgi-fd: 8 On 5/7/05, Pat Maddox wrote: > I've managed to get lighttpd with fastcgi working on FreeBSD 5.3 a > couple times, but every time I restart lighttpd, it doesn't work > anymore. I get the following message in my error log: > 2005-05-06 23:55:05: (mod_fastcgi.c.1466) connect failed: 8 Connection > refused 61 0 /tmp/rails.socket-3 >=20 > I've never been able to figure out what causes that problem. And it > really frustrates me that sometimes it'll run fine, but usually not. > Can anyone tell me how to make it work, and explain to me what's going > on so I know how to do things right in the future? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 07:05:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2F316A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:05:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4155C43D2D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:05:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E949AC; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net (pool-71-112-215-205.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.215.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEEC91; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 00:05:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.crystalsphere.multiverse To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050507040819.GA18513@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20050506235553.K1162@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> References: <20050506205146.R63342@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> <20050507040819.GA18513@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS tag for specific release candidate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 07:05:40 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:55:56PM -0700, Luke Dean wrote: >> >> I was using 5.4-RC1 until today. >> Today I attempted to update to 5.4, but I can't get into single-user mode >> without a panic. I'm just about certain that this is because of the work >> in progress in that ata-raid driver right now. >> I'm using a Promise FastTrack S150 TX2Plus, and it's not happy with the >> recent changes. I'd be glad to help test the changes, but right now I'm >> more concerned with getting my system in a stable shape. >> I want to go back to 5.4-RC1, but I can't seem to get the CVS tag right. > > Release candidates are not tagged. You can use a specific date with > the -D option to roll back to before they were committed. This is > also more helpful because you can isolate the specific change that > caused you problems. > > Unfortunately by now it might be too late to get this fixed for > 5.4-RELEASE, but at least it can be fixed soon afterwards if there is > a problem. It's not a problem with the ata stuff after all. It's definitely something else. I've managed to get 5.4-RELEASE installed, but I absolutely cannot get into single-user mode. I've tried selecting option 4 from the boot menu and just running a "shutdown now" from multiuser mode. When it gets to the point of asking what shell I want to run, usually the system just freezes. I can hit scroll lock to go back and read the dmesg, but there's no way I'm going to get a shell prompt. I can't type. Alternately, sometimes I'll get a page fault panic as soon as I hit a key - this is what usually happens if I'm trying to get into single-user mode via shutdown. If it doesn't panic, I can press ctrl-alt-delete (this is on i386 by the way) and I'll get a message about how it can't write to /var/db/mixer0-state or write other things to /var... which isn't surprising since I couldn't get to a shell prompt to mount anything in the first place. I don't understand why it's trying to mess with /var at all. I think something about my configuration must be fouled up. I don't think it's 5.4. Sorry for the confusion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 08:05:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B32116A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:05:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7133343D8D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 May 2005 08:05:07 -0000 Received: from pD9E280C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost.localdomain) [217.226.128.199] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 07 May 2005 10:05:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> To: Luke Dean In-Reply-To: <20050506235553.K1162@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> References: <20050506205146.R63342@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> <20050507040819.GA18513@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050506235553.K1162@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ggaG4ZJhTkiK7hM8sLwf" Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 10:05:04 +0200 Message-Id: <1115453104.519.5.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: CVS tag for specific release candidate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:05:09 -0000 --=-ggaG4ZJhTkiK7hM8sLwf Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 00:05 -0700, Luke Dean wrote: > I've managed to get 5.4-RELEASE installed, but I absolutely cannot get=20 > into single-user mode. I've tried selecting option 4 from the boot menu=20 > and just running a "shutdown now" from multiuser mode. > I think something about my configuration must be fouled up. I don't thin= k=20 > it's 5.4. Sorry for the confusion. It's a known problem and will be fixed as soon as possible. Check the freebsd-stable list: Subject: HEADS-UP: Problem with RELENG_5{_4} Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:37:19 -0400 (17:37 CEST) Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-ggaG4ZJhTkiK7hM8sLwf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCfHawaRsDctJfzIERAqjEAJ9QnB5kB4hXfaPMgsIUCIOnsKmedQCfX8bx KAdcib0a1w48my/fzkTd5ME= =8ELM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ggaG4ZJhTkiK7hM8sLwf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 08:30:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4F116A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:30:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C19043D92 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:30:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B62DF1C000A7 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:30:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8AD2E1C000A4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:30:31 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507083031568.8AD2E1C000A4@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:30:30 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1031726473.20050507103030@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200505070528.38909.danny@ricin.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200505070336.01785.danny@ricin.com> <698260003.20050507045248@wanadoo.fr> <200505070528.38909.danny@ricin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:30:33 -0000 Danny Pansters writes: > Now you lump me into some self defined "geek community". I didn't say anything about you. > Apparently I don't respect the rule of law now. Isn't that slander? FYI, slander is verbal defamation; written defamation would be libel. If you truly don't respect the rule of law, then that would simply me that you don't feel constrained by law and violate it when it suits you--it would not necessarily mean that you'd be in violation of any specific law. Isn't my post copyrighted? Copyrights are enforced by the same courts that handle defamation. > By extension that also includes the people that make and sustain > FreeBSD. What does? > So the answer is DUNNO thank you. The answer is that there are no firm precedents, so anything goes. And therefore prudence is wise. > How else are generally broadcasted text messages covered then? As soon as the message is created, it is copyrighted. That's how copyright works. The author need not do anything special to ensure copyright protection; it is automatic upon creation of the protected work. > Yes but it already pretty much does IMHO. No, it does not. > Perhaps it could be stated more absolutely. Yes, it could. It would also be convenient to be able to enable or disable archiving on a per-subscriber basis, or even a per-message basis (with headers). > In can elaborate in length about the nuclear/reprocessing industry in > France and how private and gubernational forces are tied but you'd > dismiss it as a special case anyhow. Since a rant of this type would be totally irrelevant to the subject at hand, it might be best to refrain. > Which means that FreeBSD's openness is somehow at fault? It has nothing to do with FreeBSD's "openness." > So don't claim it is conclusive. It is void. Void. Void. The copyrights indisputably exist, and there's no specific statutory exemption for mailing lists. It's difficult to see upon what basis a successful defense against infringement could be built. > You were the one talking about superimposing DMCA upon your > national laws. The DMCA is already a part of national laws, in the U.S. > Yes, but perhaps not all, or not even most. Someone who can read code > can also read legalese. Not true. They are two entirely different things, and code geeks often have poor reading and writing skills to begin with. Since legalese is often at the upper end of reading difficulty, then, many geeks cannot understand it--which is perhaps one reason why they think they can ignore it. > It won't be me anyhow (if applying your ethics). If you applied my ethics, you would not be infringing in the first place. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 08:38:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B7916A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:38:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FF643D76 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:38:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) j478c4Mo032160; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:38:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j478c4R7000679; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:38:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j478c4at000678; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:38:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:38:04 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Alex de Kruijff Message-ID: <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:38:10 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:49:23AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > > > Well, the "Mailing lists" link on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ homepage > > points on > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL > > That true and this would be a fine argument if this where the only way > to get the list adress. This isn't the case. Now it the warning you > get, afther you get before you are realy on the list, would point to > this stating it got the conditions then this would be a compelling > argument. > All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. Another thing, I do not really see many ways to discover the existence of a FreeBSD mailing list: - from archives via google or the FreeBSD.org search system - from FreeBSD.org docs - from the www.FreeBSD.org front page - from a clairvoyant? and these ways (at least most of them) clearly indicate the existence of archives. Anyway, it's just a false problem, it makes me think about a person going to a TV show then later refusing to have "his face" recorded and broadcasted... Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 08:51:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9184616A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:51:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBF643DB7 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:51:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7FF8C1C000A5 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:51:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 63BA91C0008C for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:51:35 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507085135408.63BA91C0008C@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:51:35 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <585260306.20050507105135@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:51:36 -0000 Marc Fonvieille writes: > All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their > archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit > the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. Then why do so many forms require that you tick a checkbox to assert that you've read and accepted the terms on the page? In any case, nothing like that exists for FreeBSD lists. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 09:18:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BD816A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:18:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from office.paramon.ru (gw-Paramon-chel.suttk.ru [62.165.36.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD9943D6B for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:18:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) Received: from office.paramon.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by office.paramon.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j479Iehr028101 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:18:40 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost)j479IeYN028098 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:18:40 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@paramon.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: office.paramon.ru: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:18:40 +0600 (YEKST) From: Ilia Chipitsine To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050507151735.Q27870@office.paramon.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.84/871/Thu May 5 19:50:45 2005 on office.paramon.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-102.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00,DEAR_SOMETHING, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on office.paramon.ru Subject: cleaning DVD+RW on Plextor PX-716a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:18:50 -0000 Dear Sirs, do I need to clean RW disk before writing ? why it says errors to me: design# burncd -f /dev/acd0 format dwd+rw burncd: format media type invalid: Unknown error: 0 Cheers, Ilia Chipitsine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 09:29:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A693B16A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:29:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C418E43D75 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:29:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) j479TrKU032813; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:29:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j479TrcG000915; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:29:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j479TmHe000914; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:29:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:29:48 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Ilia Chipitsine Message-ID: <20050507092948.GB622@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20050507151735.Q27870@office.paramon.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050507151735.Q27870@office.paramon.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cleaning DVD+RW on Plextor PX-716a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:29:55 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 03:18:40PM +0600, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > do I need to clean RW disk before writing ? > No. You should be able to "rewrite" on a DVD+RW without any blacking operation. > why it says errors to me: > > design# burncd -f /dev/acd0 format dwd+rw > burncd: format media type invalid: Unknown error: 0 > I don't know about burncd and DVD+RW but you should try growisofs, see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html and section "16.7.5 Using a DVD+RW" Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 09:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F34B16A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (smtp-106-saturday.nerim.net [62.4.16.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA6543D8B for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:39:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from regisr@regix.com) Received: from crocoite.home.regix.com (regisr.net1.nerim.net [62.212.109.60]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DCCA40E1E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:39:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:39:16 +0200 From: regisr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050507113916.15da1090.regisr@regix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How-to change permission on SCSI devices? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:39:41 -0000 I am looking for a FAQ about dynamic devices: In 5.3 (and 5.4..) SCSI devices nodes (/dev/pass*) are created when discovered (at boot or when running "camcontrol rescan ... " ) How to change the permissions on the /dev/pass* ? (not manualy of course ;-) OK, I can wrote a shell for this but if there is a less dirty possibility... -- regis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 09:45:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6D916A4D8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:45:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B204043D6B for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:45:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@x3k6a2.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp from pd9e02c55.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.224.44.85] helo=x3k6a2) id 1DULsP-0007ag-W0; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:45:38 +0200 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:45:35 +0200 From: X3K6A2 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <185825015.20050507114535@x3k6a2.net> To: Anthony Atkielski In-Reply-To: <585260306.20050507105135@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan><585260306.20050507105135@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re[2]: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: X3K6A2 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:45:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Marc Fonvieille writes: >> All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their >> archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit >> the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. > Then why do so many forms require that you tick a checkbox to assert > that you've read and accepted the terms on the page? > In any case, nothing like that exists for FreeBSD lists. To make sure, that even the most dangerous people, to the society accept the fact, that they need to think for them self. Regards Sebastian Steenbuck -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCfI5AVaV+Uf2zAKwRApAtAJ0dAYGYRVPnX8FTIjJ0ZMOL4N0RQQCfeLno WkD2F+Pl7gaxG0t31zLUGTE= =cZcO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 10:42:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A8516A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:42:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D054543D92 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])32E0A18001B4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:42:45 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 7 May 2005 10:42:45 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 258614BEAD; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:42:45 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:42:45 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Jan Grant" Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 05:42:45 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050507104245.258614BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 10:42:46 -0000 Hey! > Offlist because this sounds like a general networking thing rather than > anything fbsd-specific. Alright. But just incase though ... > Name resolution of nextgentel.{com,net} looks ok from here, if those IP > addresses are accurate. When you say your nameserver is broken, what > exactly do you mean by that? What's the evidence? I know this sounds very strange; but I mean that everything depending on my nameserver doesn't work. I cannot visit http://www.example.com although apache2 is running. I cannot receive e-mails to fafa@example.com although postfix is running. I cannot SSH to ninja.example.com although my sshd is running. I cannot FTP to ninja.example.com although the internal ftpd is running. That's for the incoming. For the outgoing, I can browse the WWW and make SSH/FTP connections to certain sites (sites which don't try to resolve my IP). Thanks, Jan. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 10:56:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D821116A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:56:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB4643D8F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:56:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])5689E18001B2 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:56:16 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 7 May 2005 10:56:16 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 44F124BEAD; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:56:16 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:56:16 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Alex de Kruijff" Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 05:56:16 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050507105616.44F124BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 10:56:17 -0000 Hello Alex (and Jan)! > It could be that type slave files need to go in the subdirectory slave > and type master files need to go in the subdirectory master. named doesn't give me any errors. As I previously stated, my setup has been running flawlessly for months. > Check you /var/log/messages for errors about this. That what I find strange too. /var/log/messages doesn't contain anything but the snort initialization! And /var/named/var/log is totally empty. Here is my security run though. Maybe PF is denying something by default? Even though I removed it from rc.conf at one time, and problems still persi= sted, there might have been something evil lurking in the back. I've had this pro= blem with IPFW, where I'd have to compile an option into my kernel for it not to block everything. ninja.example.com pf denied packets: > block drop log all [ Evaluations: 184912 Packets: 5453 Bytes: 536087 Stat= es: 0 ] Mail in local queue: -Queue ID- --Size-- ----Arrival Time---- -Sender/Recipient------- 4E3A5154 544 Fri May 6 15:09:27 fafa@example.com (host London-com.mr.Outblaze.com[205.158.62.33] said: 450 : No thank you rejected: Domain not found (in reply to RCPT TO command)) fteg@london.com I've put all relevant configuration (kernel, rc, pf, named etc.) into: http://home.faeldryn.org/~mujahid/problem.tgz Thanks guys! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:03:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C88716A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:03:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419E343D53 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:03:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG400AM39EHC9@smtp18.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 13:03:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j47B3i9H001747 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 13:03:44 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j47B3hNJ001746 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 13:03:43 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:03:43 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050507110343.GA1647@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> <20050507012802.GI3564@Alex.lan> <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:03:55 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:44:16AM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Alex de Kruijff writes: > > > Where these persons prosecuted lately? > > No. The first I heard of these problems was probably a good 20 years > ago or so, and they probably predated that. Nevertheless, it is > standard practice to include such warnings today. So? As long as your system is protected by a password nobody has a legal defence. A admin that doesn't put up a warning like "breaking in is a criminal act" is not at fault legaly or otherwise. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:05:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEA116A4DA for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:05:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABDE43D6E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:05:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])1E72018001CB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:05:57 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 7 May 2005 11:05:57 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 05A284BEAD; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:05:57 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sat, 07 May 2005 06:05:56 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Vulpes Velox" Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 06:05:56 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050507110557.05A284BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: dnelson@allantgroup.com cc: Warner Losh Subject: Re: A beautiful dmesg! Maybe one day? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:05:57 -0000 Hey! > I personally find the old methode a lot easier to read, compared to > the new one. If a change is wanted, why not make such a thing like > this a kernel option? Are you referring to the indenting? Yeah your eyes would have to jump. A sacrifice necessary for order. But the changes were not only in the indenting. They were logical changes to areas that seemed neglected. You should do a diff! Take care :) -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:10:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B58316A4DA for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3A343DA2 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:10:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])21C2C18001B1 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:10:01 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 7 May 2005 11:10:01 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0CACE4BEAD; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sat, 07 May 2005 06:10:00 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Tomas Quintero" Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 06:10:00 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050507111001.0CACE4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:10:01 -0000 > If only I was all of them. Point being, you're gonna make it, you'll > survive. Enjoy the publicity, I'm sure you'll have the tabloids > calling to ask who The GREAT FAFA is. Hehe :) I go under many names. > I'm kinda forced to laugh about people suggesting the use of DMCA and > other copyright laws/methods to force Fafa to disappear off the face > of google. Fafa has already been threatened with his doom. Some members on this list, it seems, ain't got no heart. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:15:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5E416A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:15:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C5F43DB1 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:15:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG400G4V9Y2QE@smtp16.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 13:15:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j47BFT0N001809; Sat, 07 May 2005 13:15:29 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j47BFTpc001808; Sat, 07 May 2005 13:15:29 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:15:29 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <185825015.20050507114535@x3k6a2.net> To: X3K6A2 Message-id: <20050507111529.GB1647@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <185825015.20050507114535@x3k6a2.net> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:15:40 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:45:35AM +0200, X3K6A2 wrote: > > Marc Fonvieille writes: > > >> All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their > >> archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit > >> the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. > > > Then why do so many forms require that you tick a checkbox to assert > > that you've read and accepted the terms on the page? > > > In any case, nothing like that exists for FreeBSD lists. > > To make sure, that even the most dangerous people, to the society accept > the fact, that they need to think for them self. How can one logicaly conclude that a message they send to the list is included in google and other websites? The damage of a lawsuite can be large to the BSD society. Just look at what happend when the AT&T and BSD where involved in one. Is this one reason realy that strong to risk this? -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:24:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E48416A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:24:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C7B43DC1 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:24:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180])C97CA18001AB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:24:21 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 7 May 2005 11:24:21 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BAA854BEAD; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:24:21 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sat, 07 May 2005 06:24:21 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Julian H. Stacey" , advocacy@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 06:24:21 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050507112421.BAA854BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Re: Want a logo competition? Do it properly. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:24:22 -0000 > I recall hearing of an announcement to comitters list that they'd get a v= ote. > - though that's not on http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt Now we are talking :) > > They've certainly earned it. >=20 > Yes. Uhuh! Ain't nothing wrong with that. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:32:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA0516A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:32:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3622043D1F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:32:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E0DB91C000AF for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:32:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C05741C000AC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:32:37 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507113237787.C05741C000AC@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:32:37 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1183634761.20050507133237@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050507110343.GA1647@Alex.lan> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> <20050507012802.GI3564@Alex.lan> <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> <20050507110343.GA1647@Alex.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:32:39 -0000 Alex de Kruijff writes: > So? As long as your system is protected by a password nobody has a legal > defence. Unfortunately they do. For example, if they guess a user name and password and it works, they can enter your system and claim that they believed it was okay because nothing told them otherwise. You have to specifically advise them that they must be authorized, otherwise if they accidentally or deliberately enter the system through a technical compromise, they can defend themselves on this basis. > A admin that doesn't put up a warning like "breaking in is a criminal > act" is not at fault legaly or otherwise. Not at fault, perhaps, but he does leave the door open to certain types of compromises. Windows NT was developed with a specific OS feature to provide for this: it displays site-selected text at logon time and requies that the user click to acknowledge the text before logging in successfully. A great many organizations use this feature. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A721216A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9930843D8D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) j47BaKN5034634; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:36:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j47BaKGN001378; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:36:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j47BaBmO001377; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:36:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:36:11 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: regisr Message-ID: <20050507113611.GC622@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20050507113916.15da1090.regisr@regix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050507113916.15da1090.regisr@regix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How-to change permission on SCSI devices? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:36:24 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:39:16AM +0200, regisr wrote: > I am looking for a FAQ about dynamic devices: > In 5.3 (and 5.4..) SCSI devices nodes (/dev/pass*) are created when > discovered (at boot or when running "camcontrol rescan ... " ) > How to change the permissions on the /dev/pass* ? (not manualy of > course ;-) > OK, I can wrote a shell for this but if there is a less dirty > possibility... > You have to use devfs(8) facility (man devfs). Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:55:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4709616A4D9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:55:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB543DA3 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47BtpEo051996 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:55:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D18D761F1; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:55:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:55:50 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050507115550.GA12436@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050507113916.15da1090.regisr@regix.com> <20050507113611.GC622@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050507113611.GC622@gothic.blackend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: How-to change permission on SCSI devices? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:55:53 -0000 --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 01:36:11PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:39:16AM +0200, regisr wrote: > > I am looking for a FAQ about dynamic devices: > > In 5.3 (and 5.4..) SCSI devices nodes (/dev/pass*) are created when > > discovered (at boot or when running "camcontrol rescan ... " ) > > How to change the permissions on the /dev/pass* ? (not manualy of > > course ;-)=20 > > OK, I can wrote a shell for this but if there is a less dirty > > possibility... >=20 > You have to use devfs(8) facility (man devfs). Anything that exists at boot time can be configured (ownership, permissions and links) in /etv/devfs.conf. Stuff like USB that can be hotplugged should be configured in /etc/devfs.rules for ownership and permissions and in /etc/usbd.conf for attach and detach events. There are no official manual pages yet for devfs.conf and devfs.rules. You can find the ones I've submitted at http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCfKzGEnfvsMMhpyURAg9GAJ9S9GZQA5ekopHy6GyxVRHKaJWylQCgiIBA d9GLP0NH/SV/Px2IqRIkPYg= =4xGN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 12:44:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4772C16A4DA for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:44:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C925143D90 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:44:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from koushikn@fastmail.fm) Received: from web1.messagingengine.com (web1.internal [10.202.2.210]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC66C8C3FD; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by web1.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 551641AAF; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1115469890.15483.233582052@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: j+XTEuEhXg0WloQJjyoy4XKZ5PkV9qcAR2OXEN1o49r4 1115469890 From: "Koushik Narayanan" To: "FreeBSD Questions List" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.5 (F2.73; T1.001; A1.64; B3.05; Q3.03) In-Reply-To: <200505060550.08978@harrymail> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:14:50 +0530 References: <1115344795.7908.233488628@webmail.messagingengine.com> <200505060550.08978@harrymail> cc: Emanuel Strobl Subject: Re: Boot Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:44:52 -0000 Thanks for helping.I couldn't do anything with the fixit disk.Is there some method or tool using which I can copy all files in the ufs partiton to some other partition using DOS,Windows,or Linux(my kernel won't support ufs.) .Something like ltools which allows me to copy,delete files in ext2 partition using windows. If I could do so..then I can format those partitions and re-install FreeBSD.. THanks. Koushik Narayanan On Fri, 6 May 2005 05:49:59 +0200, "Emanuel Strobl" said: > Am Freitag, 6. Mai 2005 03:59 schrieb Koushik Narayanan: > > Hello, > > I have a PC with Windows XP,FreeBSD-5.3 and Linux(Fedora).I use GRUB as > > my boot manager and I boot into FreeBSD using chainloader. > > I have XP and FreeBSD on primary partitions.I had a linux primary > > partion apart from these.I wanted to convert that to UFS2 as my /usr > > partition (FreeBSD) was almost full.I did that using bsdlabel and mkfs. > > After that the fdisk print output in linux showed the recently formated > > partition as type Linux.So I installed linux-fdisk using the ports > > collection and try to change the system-id of that partition,but it did > > not work.I then booted into linux and did the same using fdisk.This time > > it worked.But after that FreeBSD does not boot.(I don't see the rotating > > / and the loader.The system freezes and even numlock does not work )Here > > is the fdisk print output from linux: > > > > Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20060135424 bytes > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2438 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/hda1 1 523 4200966 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) > > /dev/hda2 524 905 3068415 a5 FreeBSD > > /*FreeBSD root partition*/ > > /dev/hda3 * 906 1152 1984027+ a5 FreeBSD > > /*Partition I formated using bsdlabel and mkfs contains ports */ > > /dev/hda4 1153 2439 10336536 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > > /dev/hda5 1153 1774 4996183+ 83 Linux > > /dev/hda6 2406 2438 265041 82 Linux swap > > /dev/hda7 1775 2146 2988058+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > > /dev/hda8 2147 2405 2080386 b W95 FAT32 > > > > Partition table entries are not in disk order > > > > When I use GRUB autocomplete feature to check the contents of the > > FreeBSD partions,It says Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition.(I > > have done this before when FreeBSD was working fine and I could see the > > contents of the partion). > > > > Perhaps the /boot partion needs to be fsck'ed? And if that is so how can > > I do it.(I found in the mail archives that fsck'ing UFS2 partitions > > Usually you don't have a /boot partition on FreeBSD. I guess you don't > have > bootcode in the boot label (ad0s3a). hda3 is in FreeBSD ad0s3. You need > labels inside partitions (slices). I don't know these linux tools nor am > I > familar with Grub but you may want to boot from a fixit disk and post the > output from bsdlable ad0s3. I guess this doesn't exist, probably > overwritten by the linux tools. > > For more information read boot(8) and boot0cfg(8) to get an idea how > FreeBSD treats the microsoft adopted partitioning system (which also > lunix > uses but is uncommon for UNIX) > > -Harry > > > using linux is not possible.) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Koushik Narayanan > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 12:49:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485AD16A4DA for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:49:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE23F43D5E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:49:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from koushikn@fastmail.fm) Received: from web1.messagingengine.com (web1.internal [10.202.2.210]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD2FC8C3F4; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by web1.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 975CA1B89; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1115470179.15916.233582242@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: d8ZPjMcMXWPm9nn4mkZxi2arekc0gzjvtkYHKxCAsrm6 1115470179 From: "Koushik Narayanan" To: "FreeBSD Questions List" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.5 (F2.73; T1.001; A1.64; B3.05; Q3.03) References: <1115344795.7908.233488628@webmail.messagingengine.com> <200505060550.08978@harrymail> <1115469890.15483.233582052@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1115469890.15483.233582052@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:19:39 +0530 cc: Emanuel Strobl Subject: Re: Boot Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:49:40 -0000 Sorry.My linux kernel does support ufs.Anyway for working with ufs on linux see http://ufs-linux.sourceforge.net/ Sorry for the trouble. On Sat, 07 May 2005 18:14:50 +0530, "Koushik Narayanan" said: > Thanks for helping.I couldn't do anything with the fixit disk.Is there > some method or tool using which I can copy all files in the ufs partiton > to some other partition using DOS,Windows,or Linux(my kernel won't > support ufs.) .Something like ltools which allows me to copy,delete > files in ext2 partition using windows. > If I could do so..then I can format those partitions and re-install > FreeBSD.. > THanks. > Koushik Narayanan > On Fri, 6 May 2005 05:49:59 +0200, "Emanuel Strobl" > said: > > Am Freitag, 6. Mai 2005 03:59 schrieb Koushik Narayanan: > > > Hello, > > > I have a PC with Windows XP,FreeBSD-5.3 and Linux(Fedora).I use GRUB as > > > my boot manager and I boot into FreeBSD using chainloader. > > > I have XP and FreeBSD on primary partitions.I had a linux primary > > > partion apart from these.I wanted to convert that to UFS2 as my /usr > > > partition (FreeBSD) was almost full.I did that using bsdlabel and mkfs. > > > After that the fdisk print output in linux showed the recently formated > > > partition as type Linux.So I installed linux-fdisk using the ports > > > collection and try to change the system-id of that partition,but it did > > > not work.I then booted into linux and did the same using fdisk.This time > > > it worked.But after that FreeBSD does not boot.(I don't see the rotating > > > / and the loader.The system freezes and even numlock does not work )Here > > > is the fdisk print output from linux: > > > > > > Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20060135424 bytes > > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2438 cylinders > > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > > /dev/hda1 1 523 4200966 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) > > > /dev/hda2 524 905 3068415 a5 FreeBSD > > > /*FreeBSD root partition*/ > > > /dev/hda3 * 906 1152 1984027+ a5 FreeBSD > > > /*Partition I formated using bsdlabel and mkfs contains ports */ > > > /dev/hda4 1153 2439 10336536 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > > > /dev/hda5 1153 1774 4996183+ 83 Linux > > > /dev/hda6 2406 2438 265041 82 Linux swap > > > /dev/hda7 1775 2146 2988058+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > > > /dev/hda8 2147 2405 2080386 b W95 FAT32 > > > > > > Partition table entries are not in disk order > > > > > > When I use GRUB autocomplete feature to check the contents of the > > > FreeBSD partions,It says Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition.(I > > > have done this before when FreeBSD was working fine and I could see the > > > contents of the partion). > > > > > > Perhaps the /boot partion needs to be fsck'ed? And if that is so how can > > > I do it.(I found in the mail archives that fsck'ing UFS2 partitions > > > > Usually you don't have a /boot partition on FreeBSD. I guess you don't > > have > > bootcode in the boot label (ad0s3a). hda3 is in FreeBSD ad0s3. You need > > labels inside partitions (slices). I don't know these linux tools nor am > > I > > familar with Grub but you may want to boot from a fixit disk and post the > > output from bsdlable ad0s3. I guess this doesn't exist, probably > > overwritten by the linux tools. > > > > For more information read boot(8) and boot0cfg(8) to get an idea how > > FreeBSD treats the microsoft adopted partitioning system (which also > > lunix > > uses but is uncommon for UNIX) > > > > -Harry > > > > > using linux is not possible.) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Koushik Narayanan > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 12:51:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F56C16A4DA for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:51:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC51C43D75 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:51:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873DCFD067 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:51:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <427CB9D4.8040802@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 14:51:32 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050314 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, en-gb, da, fr, de, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200505070145.50210.danny@ricin.com> In-Reply-To: <200505070145.50210.danny@ricin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:51:40 -0000 Thank you for your replies. I got a hint off-list that this could be ipfilter: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/79988 Looking at my first kernel trap error, I see I also had the (swi1: net) and on -CURRENT, I can't compile kernel with IPFILTER enabled, nor does it compile as a module. Shifting to packet filter seems to have solved the problem, system up > 24h and I have my mail again :-) Regarding the illicit mail deliveries I mentioned, this persists, so I am exited to see that(if?) my system sustains it (I have just set the MX record back). It's a trivial mail-bombing of non-existing random addresses on my server. I have a perl script well underway for analysing the maillog, counting number of rejections and looking up abuse adresses with whois - all nicely stored in an xml file for later use (no - I refuse to implement automatic mail notification to the abuse addresses). If anyone is interested, let me know. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:10:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F1D16A4DA for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (smtp-106-saturday.nerim.net [62.4.16.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFD743DA4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from regisr@regix.com) Received: from crocoite.home.regix.com (regisr.net1.nerim.net [62.212.109.60]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BF16E40EFD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:10:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:09:58 +0200 From: regisr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050507150958.6254e522.regisr@regix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050507113916.15da1090.regisr@regix.com> References: <20050507113916.15da1090.regisr@regix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How-to change permission on SCSI devices? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:10:15 -0000 >> You have to use devfs(8) facility (man devfs). > Anything that exists at boot time can be configured (ownership, > permissions and links) in /etv/devfs.conf. Stuff like USB that can be > hotplugged should be configured in /etc/devfs.rules for ownership and > permissions and in /etc/usbd.conf for attach and detach events. But the device is not connected at boot time, it is an SCSI device, I can't known the device name ( passN ) ... The number can change if I plug USB devices or power up SCSI device in different order... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:18:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177B716A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:18:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5DF43D8E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:18:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cworthy@myrealbox.com) Received: from [192.168.1.32] cworthy [66.25.62.191]on Linux via secured & encrypted transport (TLS); Sat, 07 May 2005 07:18:47 -0600 From: Colin Worthy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:16:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505071316.58645.cworthy@myrealbox.com> Subject: Issue with Timezone in KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cworthy@myrealbox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:48 -0000 I am having an odd issue with setting the correct timezone in KDE. I have set the correct timezone from the command line and it seems to stay for a while, but eventually is reverting to UTC time. I should be in Central Daylight time (Americas/Chicago). If I try to set the correct timezone from within KDE it simply ignores my change and stays set on UTC time. I am using NTP to try to keep the time on my machine correct. This problem has only recently come up. I am not sure when exactly, but it used to always have the correct time. Therefore my machine is currently displaying UTC time, which is about 5 hours too fast. I would really appreciate anyones help in trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. Thanks, Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:31:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A288E16A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:31:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2379343DAC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:31:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F20FD067; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:31:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <427CC32E.9020703@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:31:26 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050314 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, en-gb, da, fr, de, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stevan Tiefert References: <42713B77.5020000@aixa.rot-1.de> In-Reply-To: <42713B77.5020000@aixa.rot-1.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: longest uptime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:31:37 -0000 Stevan Tiefert wrote: > if I want to do a uptime-record I have always the possiblity to shut > down daemons (when needed) and start them again, without rebooting the > system! That is very nice! I had many days and weeks running my nicely > freebsd-server. BUT every time I updated the patchlevel (in example > 5.2.1-RELEASE to 5.2.1-RELEASE-p14) I had to reboot my system. But then > the counter of uptime is starting at zero again :-( > > Question: Is there a possiblity to run the system inclusive patching it, > without rebooting? Goal is to run a system maybe longer than a year!!! If the patches are applied to a loadable kernel module only, then it should (at least in theory) be enough to rebuild/install the kernel as usual and then just reload the kernel module instead of rebooting. Reloading the module requires that the given service is not in use, which is why it may be easier to just reboot. Taking this idea to the extreme, there is a number of other projects, non-FBSD, that work on micro/nanokernel technology. I can't recommend you one over another - I haven't tried them - QNX is a commercial product, also there is open-source LSE/OS, just to get you started. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:41:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84A416A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:41:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D969243D8E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7B260E4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71075-10 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:41:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BA460D7 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:41:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427CC59B.8000501@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:41:47 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org> <585260306.20050507105135@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <585260306.20050507105135@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:41:21 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Marc Fonvieille writes: > > >>All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their >>archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit >>the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. > > > Then why do so many forms require that you tick a checkbox to assert > that you've read and accepted the terms on the page? > > In any case, nothing like that exists for FreeBSD lists. > Anthony, As I mentioned (and clearly corrected myself too), While it's true that there is an implyied copyright on the writtings, as I posted in my correction, and in the URL I posted too - in order for someone to "claim" a violation of copyright, it MUST be registered with the copyright office (at least here in the States). Once that is public record (the official filling) THEN, and only then, the person has the right to make a claim against a copyright violation. In your postings Anthony, you touch on everything before that very important point, AND after. You never once mention the fact that a person NEEDS to take that one extra step. So, in my view - this makes the whole issue (and thread) pointless unless someone has taken that one, last step. Now - this thread needs to end, or be moved to the proper list. There is simply no point in arguing this UNLESS you can PROVE that you have filed the paperwork to actually allow you to force the law to look into copyright infringement. So - allow me to quote one last time why you MUST file it. "Registration and the Copyright Process The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created. A work is "created" when it is fixed into a book, tape or electronic medium for the first time. Thus, for example, a song can be fixed in sheet music or in a digital tape, or both. No publication, registration or other action in the U.S. Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. However, in order to enforce the copyright and for many other practical reasons, it will be necessary to register the copyright with the U.S. Copyright Office. Some of the advantages of registering a copyright are the following: * Registration establishes a public record of the copyright claim. * Before an infringement suit may be filed in court, registration is necessary for works of U. S. origin. * If made before or within 5 years of publication, registration establishes sufficient evidence in court concerning the validity of the copyright and the facts stated in the copyright certificate. * If registration is made within 3 months after publication of the work or prior to an infringement of the work, statutory damages and attorney's fees will be available to the copyright owner in court actions. Otherwise, only an award of actual damages and profits is available to the copyright owner. * Registration allows the owner of the copyright to record the registration with the U.S. Customs Service for protection against the importation of infringing copies." http://www.legalzoom.com/law_library/copyrights/registration.html End of discussion. Now - for those that are bitching that they feel they have been violated, PROVE to us that YOU filed for the copyright, else - get a life or remove yourself from the list. Over and out -- Best regards, Chris Whatever can go to New York, will. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:53:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF49716A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:53:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from donald.thoron.org (kjolur.tolvu.net [212.30.199.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF8043D5E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:53:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from titan@donald.thoron.org) Received: from donald.thoron.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by donald.thoron.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j47DrxPE093474; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:54:00 GMT (envelope-from titan@donald.thoron.org) Received: (from titan@localhost) by donald.thoron.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j47DrxSV093473; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:53:59 GMT (envelope-from titan) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:53:59 +0000 From: "Halldor R. Haflidason" To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-ID: <20050507135359.GA656@thoron.org> References: <20050507111001.0CACE4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050507111001.0CACE4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:53:56 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 06:10:00AM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > Fafa has already been threatened with his doom. > Some members on this list, it seems, ain't got no heart. It always strikes me as odd when people refer to them self in 3d person. Anyhow, as many have said before me, I think that when you send mail to a public mailing list, you have to see that every mailing list (that at least I know of) is archived and open, I have always been thankful of that since when I have to find the solution to some problem related to freebsd more often than not I find my answer in one of those archives, would be sad if issues like this forced them to be 'off limits'. Dóri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 14:14:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B1016A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:14:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E838743DAC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:14:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6797573 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:10:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <1305875013.20050506203538@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> <1305875013.20050506203538@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2fadfa1b1141e5cfd52d21bf702dcbbe@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:13:59 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 14:14:09 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> A) You sent messages to unknown hundreds or thousands of people on the >> mailing list, all of which could have a cached copy of your messages, >> and now wonder about privacy? > > I've explained the differences before; perhaps I need to explain them > again. > > When you sign up to a mailing list, you implicitly give permission to > distribute your posts to other members of the list. You do _not_ give > permission to have your posts archived, and you do _not_ give > permission > to have your posts published and made accessible to people who are not > on the list. The point is privacy. You complain at a lack of privacy after sending messages to an unknown number of strangers to begin with. And because it's a technical forum, anyone who spends ten minutes of research after wondering about it will know about the archives, especially since the defacto answer for some on this list is READ THE ARCHIVES. It ranks right up there with "READ THE HANDBOOK". If you don't like it, unsubscribe and chalk it up to experience. Otherwise, you're just trolling or bitching to bitch about something. This falls under fair use. And it's just idiotic to send messages to all these anonymous people only later to complain about privacy loss. You're sending information to strangers over a mailing list. Is there something wrong with you? Your issue isn't archiving and searchability...this isn't a chatlist. Anyone who does even a HINT of looking around before belching a question to the list knows about the mailing list archives. What did you THINK was going to happen? That your posts wouldn't get put into the archives because you're special? Let's see...www.freebsd.org...mailing lists...It says, clear as day, "Before posting to any list, please learn about how to best use the mailing lists, such as how to help avoid frequently-repeated discussions, by reading the Mailing List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) document." From there, it has as a QUESTION are the ARCHIVES AVAILABLE. YES. It gives the link. The entire tone of the document talks of openness and sharing. WHY WOULDN'T THAT MEAN IT IS SEARCHABLE BY SEARCH ENGINES?? It's supposed to give answers to people's questions on the OS. Apparently you seem to think this is some kind of shadow cabal that conspires to keep noobs out of the ivory towers, implied by your "I want to ask people to volunteer their time to help me with my questions but DON'T TELL ANYONE I didn't know the answer in the future" type of attitude you're conveying. Hmm...could it be that people aren't actually taking five minutes to read material before barreling through and belching the question on the forefront of their mind? Hmm... >> B) The archives are searchable and referenced, and you claim you >> didn't >> know that despite the number of self appointed upper-echelons that >> reply with a curt "Look in the archives" type answer? > > It has to be part of the confirmation process. You have to require > that > members accept these terms in order to subscribe. Are you daft? How many people read the EULA on the software they think they own? You honestly think they're going to read some "legalese" disclaimer on a subscription list? People are volunteering their time and experience to help people out here. Above, I outlined the process you get to sign up to a mailing list right from the FreeBSD list. Any idiot could have found it if they can read English. It stated the answers to this right there. In fact, if you follow the directions and actually read the material it told you to, it stated the material there that your messages would get archived. On top of that, it's a technical mailing list. It's IMPLIED, if you have been a sysadmin or technologist for more than a month and on the Internet as a sysadmin for more than a month. You should KNOW this by then. > Do you really think that software companies and major Web sites have > those little check boxes that say "I accept" just for decoration? You mean opt-ins? Those are the only ones I've run across. Check boxes for EULAs or agreements that the vast majority of people don't bloody READ because it is full of legalese. It's questionable now if EULAs are even fully enforceable. One company put in a reward if you read their EULA and told them you found the monetary reward part. It took months for someone to notice it. I just outlined the follow-the-lines for signing up for the mailing list...you know, the links that tell you to check the FAQ first, where it tells you about the archives? Obviously you didn't read it or didn't comprehend it to now complain that your messages are archived. >> C) Your words are being re-mirrored by being embedded inside other >> posts that REPLY to your messages. You honestly think that a >> volunteer >> is going to delete your messages AND all messages referencing your >> name? > > You don't need a volunteer, you just need software to do it. And it's > not hard to write. Really? If it's that easy to do so, why don't you write some software to re-format email so it's not top-posted? I'd love to find that material. Because you don't have the right to delete other people's words when replying to your message. But then you're also altering the work of that person's work by deleting, selectively, the material you don't want in there. >> There should be. We'll call it The Law of Common Sense. > > The law of common sense says that you don't agree to anything that > isn't > in writing and does not proceed _inevitably_ from that to which you > agree. Archives and publication are not inevitable consequences of > being on a mailing list, therefore you must agree to them explicitly. Guess you should have looked right at the material presented before signing up. It was all there. Every list I've been on for tech has had searchable archives. Even USENET is archived. Even web pages are archived. You put it out in public, it's fair game. No one is stealing your copyright, it's not robbing you of income, and no one is claiming your words as their own or making a profit from it. It is not common sense to require every aspect of your life be legally entitled and bound by terms and agreements. It's attitudes like that that spawn those asinine warning labels found on every damn product out there in America now. "It didn't tell me that my little boy couldn't fly after putting on a Superman costume! How was little innocent me supposed to know that?" >> None on the list that I know of is actively digging into your >> background or prying more secrets from you regarding your personal >> information ... > > What makes you think they would notify you if they were? Would you like to borrow my tin foil beanie, or are you afraid I have an RFID mounted on the back of it? >> The way the Internet works isn't a secret. > > This policy is not "the way the Internet works." Ooh, please do inform us how it works out there for "normal mailing lists", since the "Way the Internet works" is, I agree, too vague for you. I seem to be routinely running into this as the routine way tech lists work...you sign up, you post, you get lots of people saying read the damn archives, in some lists they point to some bible of sorts like the Handbook for the FreeBSD lists. That alone implies your messages are archived, no? What, you didn't take five minutes to do a google or archive search before belching your questions to the list?? Gee, I wonder why listmoms get frustrated. You couldn't be bothered to actually search for an answer before imposing your time on a volunteer on the list? Maybe the archiving is a price you pay for laziness. Because it was NEVER HIDDEN from you. This wasn't a surprise someone was waiting to spring on you. So I guess you'll have to deal with it! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 14:43:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E932916A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:43:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E2B43D9E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:43:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 12588 invoked from network); 7 May 2005 14:43:14 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 May 2005 14:43:13 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D79C82F; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Christopher Lane References: <427B91DC.6060801@inteliport.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 07 May 2005 10:43:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <427B91DC.6060801@inteliport.com> Message-ID: <44is1v85bz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: World version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 14:43:15 -0000 Christopher Lane writes: > Simple question: how can I tell what version of the system binaries > I'm running? Flame-proofing follows. > > Searches on this mailing list and google tell me 'uname -a' is the > ticket, but that doesn't seem to get what I want. No, it isn't. That gets you kernel information. > Here's the testing > I've done. > > * Install 5.3 from cd on two machines > * CVSup /usr/src on both to 5.4-STABLE > * On box #1, I configure/upgrade just the kernel (using the "old way") > * On box #2, I do the entire 'make buildworld' through 'mergemaster' > as per handbook section 19.4 > > My understanding is that on box #1 I'm running a 5.4 kernel with 5.3 > system binaries (which is a bad thing to do). Box #2 is 5.4 for > both. Here's the uname output for both boxes: > > box #1: FreeBSD name.domain 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #2: Thu Apr > 21 12:02:07 EDT 2005 > user@name.domain:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/FIREWALL i386 > > box #2: FreeBSD name.domain 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri May > 6 09:46:40 EDT 2005 user@name.domain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDBOX i386 > > I know the first box has 5.3 binaries, but uname -a doesn't indicate > that. So how can I tell the first box has mismatched kernel/userspace? I don't see that you can. Just don't do that; and if you're not sure, update kernel and world to make sure they're in synch. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:05:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C91B16A4DC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:05:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1673C43D81 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:05:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1140420wra for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:05:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YlGLaCatd5o2gjNdzJXdGrZzLbsSvFdQ3VYZJ1ajMm6ihgTbkQLO9gJGln71ZkF3lDyYsQZ+nRymQPJ6LZ7jB0ZiFHt0W9yK8CTG5MnmE4vxD+dywXVfk/P/xjUJUpW77qlHWwX+XOBK0HBkdQF41Pg/JUMbs3Bh1leLHxlT9nk= Received: by 10.54.69.3 with SMTP id r3mr1485143wra; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.6 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63c3899e05050708051622fbb2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 16:05:09 +0100 From: Chris Hodgins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1183634761.20050507133237@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> <20050507110343.GA1647@Alex.lan> <1183634761.20050507133237@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:05:10 -0000 This keeps coming up time and time again. Why don't we simply put up a message on the subscription page that says if you subscribe you agree that your messages will be archived for public viewing. End of story. No more bitchy emails on this subject, no more heated debates and much more time devoted to talking about FreeBSD. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:13:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E567B16A4F2 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA68743DD1 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:13:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 12194 invoked from network); 7 May 2005 15:13:00 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 May 2005 15:12:59 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 909D32F; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: ravi References: <427A423E.30803@exitleft.org> <44ll6sdr71.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <427BDA02.9040106@exitleft.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 07 May 2005 11:12:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <427BDA02.9040106@exitleft.org> Message-ID: <44ekcj83yd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.9-RELEASE Xorg switch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:13:03 -0000 ravi writes: > On 05/06/05 16:39, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > ravi writes: > > > >> i looked at the 20040723 entry again, but there is nothing more to do > >> (in my case) listed there. also 20040723 gives instructions for 5.x, > >> FreeBSD-current, -stable and older -current, but doesn't explicitly > >> mention -release (which is what i run). > > > > 4.x was the -STABLE branch at the time of that entry. > > You are running 4.9, which was a release from the -STABLE branch. > > > > Just follow the advice that entry gives for -stable and you'll be fine. > > > > lowell, > > thanks for the response. greatly appreciated -- i was afraid my post > would be buried by the archive copyright debate ;-). I'm not even reading it. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Good software for reading mail groups is important if you're going to try to follow lists like this... > w.r.t your advice: > i did follow the instructions in UPDATING. i am sure i am missing > something obvious. here's the entry: > > > 20040723: > > AFFECTS: users of FreeBSD-current, users of xorg > > AUTHOR: anholt@FreeBSD.org > > > > The XFREE86_VERSION variable is deprecated and has been replaced by the > > X_WINDOW_SYSTEM variable. X_WINDOW_SYSTEM may be set to xorg, xfree86-4, or > > xfree86-3. X_WINDOW_SYSTEM defaults to xorg on FreeBSD-current. If you are > > switching to xorg, you should follow this set of commands to cleanly upgrade: > > > > pkg_delete -f /var/db/pkg/imake-4* /var/db/pkg/XFree86-* > > cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg && make install > > pkgdb -F > > > > Users of -stable or older -current can switch to X.Org by setting > > X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg in make.conf and following the same process. > > > > Alternately, FreeBSD 5.x and later users can use portupgrade with packages: > > cd /var/db/pkg > > > > > > i did the pkg_delete -f, xorg make install and ran pkgdb -F. i also set > X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg in /etc/make.conf. > > i still get errors from portupgrade, etc., regarding stale dependencies > on imake-4 and various XFree86 ports. Hmm. Are you sure that you deleted the imake ports before building X.Org? You shouldn't have stale imake dependencies from X.Org if you rebuilt both. And the stale dependencies from other X ports should get fixed up by pkgdb -F (which *will* require you to redirect the dependencies, of course). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:15:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B9516A4DC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:15:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD48A43D53 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6805871 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:11:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <33b4a1e0e5ec911011c21d4c289c3485@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:14:56 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:15:07 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> Yeah, cuz, we wouldn't want the archives to be referenced for people >> who are looking for help on topics, after all. > > Do you think that subscribers would refuse to grant permission to have > their posts archived? If so, doesn't that say something to you about > archiving posts without their permission? Obviously some subscribers can't be bothered to actually read the FAQ on the subscription page. I know, how about someone make all the forms you seem to want here? One form to say people can archive your post...another for allowing searches from outside sources...another to allow people to have it on their own mail client, in case they keep it for reference...maybe another to allow/disallow printing? How about one for replying? Would that still entail another form to allow people to quote you in their reply? Face it. You implied the consent by signing up, and if you had some common sense and actually read the material on the site you KNEW about the archives and claiming otherwise makes you look foolish. It has been the standard MO for people to point questioners to reading the handbook then the FAQ's then go Google then use the mailing lists. If you're too lazy to research this and not bright enough to figure out what is implied as "common knowledge" from these things, then they can't help that person. In my time on the Internet using mailing lists and usenet groups it had been recommended that people lurk for awhile and go through archives before posting. Evidently this is too obscure a concept for some people to grasp. >> Do they need to issue a specific list of "what to do" when using >> FreeBSD or interacting with the community? > > Yes, legally. If you don't tell them, it's not their responsibility. Ah...they're too stupid to take responsibility for their actions? Is that what you're saying? My step daughter climbs a tree in the neighbor's yard. By your way of thinking, if she falls and breaks her leg, I should sue the neighbor. Common sense says that it wasn't the neighbor's fault, I knew she was there, she knew she was taking that risk, and if she falls, it's her fault. The neighbor has nothing to worry about with me. Evidently you're a different story. > And if you do things for which you need permission without asking for > and obtaining permission, it's your responsibility. Sure. Look up fair use. The FreeBSD people have nothing to worry about because people like you already whined about this many moons ago and thus the concepts of fair use and implied consent was cited. Look in the Wikipedia on fair use, and at www.legal-explanations.com/definitions/implied-consent.htm for implied consent. If you never bothered actually figuring out how the majority of tech lists work or actually reading the materials and links at the FreeBSD site, then it's not their fault you're too dense to figure out there exists an archive of mailing list materials. >> And how many people would actually follow it ANYWAY? > > It doesn't matter. It's a question of protecting oneself legally. Great. Let's pollute the mindshare with more crap to add to the noise. It helps train people to ignore it in the future so people like you can start slipping your own pet clauses into the rules. Politicians have been taking advantage of that for awhile now...make so just cruft, crud, and noise that people won't tell what's good from what's crap because they ignore it, and now you can claim "well it was there in the fine print all along..." Maybe you're a budding spammer? >> Most don't even read the @#%# EULA on the software they install >> on their home computer. > > Nevertheless, they agree to be bound by it when they check the little > box that says "I accept." That's legally questionable now. What's funny is that some businesses don't even read their own boilerplates anymore. And it's been rendered so ineffective that they do stupid things, like "opening this package means you agree to the enclosed license agreement". How can you agree to it if you can't read it? Duh. How many other people on this list are daft enough to agree with that line of argument, that the legalese on the paper Joe Average is expected to understand is effective and useful and is fully enforceable now? In Anthony's future, it seems that everyone would need to employ a lawyer to review everything people do to make sure they fully understand their rights and what is being signed away and what's going to happen if they do X or sign up for Y or buy Z. Does anyone remember a time when people were expected to take responsibility for their own actions? >> Most users out there still think they OWN their operating system ... > > Some people think that they own any messages posted on their servers. Legally, they do, if they're your employer. Remember your emphasis on reading those agreements? Archives aren't profiting from your copyrighted words. There goes most of your argument to stop them. I can't think of a reason they'd WANT to claim your words as their own...so there goes the majority of your legal wrangling that was left to work with. You do own the copyright, it's acknowledged by those who properly quote, and more to the point, the archives are the equivalent to the artist or author who takes his or her work, seals it in an envelope, then mails it to him or herself without opening it to prove it was their work on that date. The archives PROVE you wrote it and when! IT ACTUALLY HELPS ENFORCE COPYRIGHT CLAIMS! >> How about people use common sense before joining lists and posting to >> them, and take some responsibility for the things they do? > > Common sense says that when you subscribe to a list, your posts are > seen > only by other people on the list, not by the entire world. Not when the site with the subscription information tells you there are archives. And common sense tells you that you shouldn't bitch about privacy after you send your words out to $DEITY-knows-how-many strangers in the first place. >> It's certainly no secret that these posts are archived out there ... > > It doesn't have to be a secret; subscribers must still agree to it. Implied consent. And fair use. How'd you THINK those messages were getting in the archives? Magic? If you're that worried about it, why didn't it occur to you that you weren't asked if you'd like to be included in those magical archives? > It's no secret that software is copyrighted; however, software > companies > still force users to accept a EULA so that they cannot claim that they > didn't know they were licensing copyrighted material. You must not be a sysadmin or you'd know that 99% of users don't know they're licensing software. They think they own it. Why? Because they have clickclickclickclick syndrome. They CAN claim they didn't know because so many idiots pollute people's time and mindshare with legalese that they don't care about. They just want to get the job done. All your disclaimers and EULAS are just more yadayada to them. I know of one case where a EULA was found enforceable...but you don't hear about too many of these cases. A EULA is a contract, and if you don't understand the terms of the contract, there are circumstances where you cannot be held liable for signing it because you were too ignorant to understand what you were signing away. Well, how many Joe Averages know what they're doing with EULAs? Maybe you should mull over issues like those at http://interactionlaw.com/id12.html . Or www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000478.html . Maybe you should also take the above argument and balance that with what I originally said about the archives existing and being pointed to RIGHT IN THE FAQ that the site asked users to read FIRST. In plain @#% English. No legal mumbo jumbo. If anything, even the most dense who can follow directions should have known what they were getting into, far more clearly that someone having to read a disclaimergreement. > It's no secret that most computer systems are not open to everyone; Maybe someone should tell that to an open-source group, and to the people signing up to lists having something to do with a group that believes in free exchange of information. > however, sysadmins (at least those who know what they are doing) still > must put messages in login procedures that advise users of the > restricted character of access to the system. Otherwise intruders > could > say that they didn't know access was restricted. Damn...if the claim isn't there on a big sign that you're not allowed on the premises of a bank after hours, how was I supposed to know I wasn't allowed to break the window and go in to find some money laying around? What about the cemetery that didn't have fencing and a sign every ten feet saying you're not allowed there after sundown? Those darn legal loopholes! >> Better yet start >> some arguments with the governments and businesses that are video >> taping people with security cameras on street corners and inside >> stores. > > Many jurisdictions require that persons on private property be apprised > of any video recording, precisely because of the privacy implications. Many, not all. AND you're not required notice in public. It's where you can NOT REASONABLY expect privacy. You can't sue some vacationer for getting you in their vacation video. > Persons attending a concert that is being videotaped also must be > apprised of this on their tickets; their consent to recording cannot > necessarily be presumed. Yeah, because reasonable people would never fathom why there may be recordings and pictures taken at a concert. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:16:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9BF16A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:16:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C7143D80 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6806077 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:12:41 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <1171865367.20050506204334@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506132709.GA77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <1171865367.20050506204334@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:16:02 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:16:11 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Roland Smith writes: > >> On the page where you subscribe to a mailing list there is a link to >> the >> list archives. The existance to this link implies a public accessible >> archive of the list. If you don't like that, don't subscribe. > > You cannot be sure that subscribers have read it unless you require > them > to take explicit action to confirm that they have read it. Part of me likes that attitude. You assume users are too stupid to use computers even if they're trying to tackle FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:22:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF1016A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:22:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21A743D9C for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:22:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6807610 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:19:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:22:33 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:22:41 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 2:48 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Paul Schmehl writes: > >> Before you start spouting legal advice on a public list, I would >> suggest >> that you point to chapter and verse that *specifically* addresses >> posts >> made to a public forum that *explicitly* states that such posts will >> be >> archived and *explicitly* states that you have the right to request >> their >> removal *and* the right to sue if the archiving party refuses to >> remove >> them. Furthermore, you must first prove that post made to a public >> forum >> are protected by copyright laws. > > Any creative work fixed in a tangible medium is protected by copyright > by default. Any form of reproduction of a copyrighted work requires > the > permission of its creator, _except_ as otherwise provided by law. > That's the way the law is written. No exceptions are made for archival > of mailing lists in publicly accessible archives (nor for any other use > of messages to mailing lists, AFAIK). Maybe you should look at the definition of Fair Use, especially balanced against what copyright was meant to protect...namely the author's ability to profit. The archives aren't preventing the author from profiting and they aren't profiting from someone else's work... Look at the disclaimer for the ARCHIVE at archives.econ.utah.edu/archives . How about nobody talk to you anymore because they need a consent form to quote you in their replies? Would that help? That way people on the list could only respond to people that are slightly more reasonable... :-) Dilemma...how do I get permission to quote you to reply to you? I can't quote your message back to you to ask for permission for fear of breaching your copyright, and I can't just send you my own words alone without reference...then you might not know what I was referring to, which is clearly not allowable since it isn't legally specific enough to get permission to answer what it is you wanted answered. Wait...are you a Vogon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:28:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB18416A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:28:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F9943D41 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j47FSFDe008496 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:28:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B128061F1; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:28:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 17:28:14 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050507152814.GA13491@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> <20050507110343.GA1647@Alex.lan> <1183634761.20050507133237@wanadoo.fr> <63c3899e05050708051622fbb2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <63c3899e05050708051622fbb2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:28:17 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Chris Hodgins wrote: > This keeps coming up time and time again. Why don't we simply put up > a message on the subscription page that says if you subscribe you > agree that your messages will be archived for public viewing. =20 Maybe it should be in the mailing-list FAQ then? I agree that a reference to the FAQ on the subscription page might be a good idea. > End of story. No more bitchy emails on this subject, no more heated > debates and much more time devoted to talking about FreeBSD. Amazingly, bogofilter(1) rightly disposed of most of this thread for me. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCfN6OEnfvsMMhpyURAnJCAJ9KijDd537wZ3v3bBGbiSCX/vGnBACgqU/h 3zceJlcfYhfQBG/DtJZY4OU= =VipZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:28:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED88316A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:28:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B81343D98 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6808300 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:24:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <1277052087.20050506205025@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <403456169.20050506125226@wanadoo.fr> <20050506112743.GA878@bhunter.net> <1277052087.20050506205025@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:27:54 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:28:19 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Al Johnsonn writes: > >> This advice is more ridiculous than telling him to put aerosol spray >> back >> into a can. > > Where's the flaw in it? That's what the DMCA is for. Betwen this and the claim about "stopping traffic in third party non-US sites because it goes through US servers", I think there are enough grounds to conclude that Anthony may be insane. Or a Vogon. He seems to actually believe the DMCA is meant to help the average citizens against big mean bullying corporations. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:33:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C67E16A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:33:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1728B43DB4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:33:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1147748wra for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:33:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UhUhMTepZQFLRBTM1sGyJMiS/AdfmATE30HwPN+KKrNjj6Ux0uGHMETy8jDmp4E62+xoDW4bsTNVz9wsyH9FcYB29v64YmA01ATSDmRr3QkG8Yei+tfZMdzZRXVVe3L9YnrtP05O3eSyUhaG0+kMc+41Ws3108N/sHQWTqSzUtc= Received: by 10.54.69.3 with SMTP id r3mr1497844wra; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.6 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63c3899e0505070833315cf7c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 16:33:45 +0100 From: Chris Hodgins To: Paul Keyes In-Reply-To: <20050506175218.40330.qmail@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050506175218.40330.qmail@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting mysql server automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:33:48 -0000 On 5/6/05, Paul Keyes wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > I'm setting up a server running Freebsd 5.3 I have > mysql running well but I can't seem to get it to start > automatically at boot time. I can only start it as > root with the command: > mysqld_safe --user=3Dmysql & >=20 > (when I do this everything works fine) >=20 > I tried installing the mysql.server sript as: > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql.server.sh > but when I try to run it manually I get this: > ./mysql.server.sh: 102: Syntax error: Bad for loop > variable >=20 > What is the best way to get the mysql server running > automatically when the computer boots? >=20 > Thanks, > Paul >=20 Make sure this line appears in /etc/rc.conf: mysql_enable=3D"YES" Then reboot and you should be able to see it in sockstat: $ sockstat -4 | grep mysql mysql mysqld 529 3 tcp4 *:3306 *:* If that still does not work then you might want to post you mysql-server.sh file so we can see if you have any obvious problems with it. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:38:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2154116A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:38:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8330443D70 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:38:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6810135 for multiple; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:34:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9ffa7fe3d49e35171f1862d226a0efaf@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:37:53 -0400 To: Paul Schmehl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:38:09 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I doubt seriously your *extremely* strict interpretation of copyright > would hold up in any court of law in the US or anywhere else for that > matter. I have no doubt that you could find a judge somewhere to rule > in your favor. After all, judges make incredibly stupid rulings daily. > But in the end, your argument would fall on deaf ears when saner > minds were engaged. It would fall under fair use. While the interpretation would allow leeway, I don't think any reasonable, sane person would have an expectation of privacy for posting to a technical mailing list that has references to the archives in a medium where quoting your material is expected in due course of discussion, and no one is profiting from your work and you're not being deprived of income because of it. Although I do think these posts are copyrighted...you just have an implied consent for certain uses. If I give a long explanation on how some particular technology works, you can't copy it and paste it into a book you're writing without my permission, and the existence of my posts on the archives would give me ammunition against you. The most laughable part...the archives actually help enforce the copyrights he claims are being trodden on. > When you post to a public list, your post are not copyrighted > material. They exist in the public domain. And *this* list *is* a > public forum. Publicly accessible, but you still own your words. I think I already posted some links that talk about copyright, but wikipedia has a nice summary. Electronic formats like web pages and such are still copyrighted because they can take a tangible form (printed out, video taped, etc.). At least, that's my understanding. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:42:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D4716A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:42:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BD143D97 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6810667 for multiple; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:39:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <427C0876.4080506@makeworld.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com> <20050507000645.GA10731@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <427C0876.4080506@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3906ba2a4606831ca7d62d03f573447c@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:42:19 -0400 To: racerx@makeworld.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:42:36 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Chris wrote: > Hahaha - good stuff! Yanno, last I knew (and that was some time ago) > You > had to submit writings for review to the copyright folks here in the > U.S. > > Then, if they deem it so, you then had to pay a fee to have it > copyrighted. As I said - this may or may not be the case any longer, I > didn't know that just by writing something, you were grandted all the > nifty perks of it being copywritten. Then again - I'm not a lawyer. And > to be frank, I couldn't care less either. No, when you write something, it's copyrighted automatically. There are steps you can take to help make your case stronger if you think someone will steal your work (mailing yourself a sealed copy so it'll be dated by the post office, for example), but if you write it and it's your work you have the copyright on it automatically. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:43:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB4116A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:43:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CAE43D8E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:42:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6810732 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:39:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <1857812133.20050507021725@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506140118.GB77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <342912884.20050506204440@wanadoo.fr> <427BC142.2030702@cloudview.com> <20050507000645.GA10731@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <1857812133.20050507021725@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <61221f562652dfcd580518f8b91b70d2@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:42:54 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:43:00 -0000 On May 6, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > cpghost@cordula.ws writes: > >> Absolutely! Copyright doesn't protect anyone from making a fool out >> of themselves. > > So I see. But that is not the purpose of copyright. Proven time and time again :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:47:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521716A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:47:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7638243D41 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:47:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j47Fl5AS069554; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:47:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j47Fl5og069551; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:47:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 09:47:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Noah In-Reply-To: <20050506160159.M53727@enabled.com> Message-ID: <20050507094542.J69438@wonkity.com> References: <20050506160159.M53727@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 07 May 2005 09:47:05 -0600 (MDT) cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: nagios config menu does not reappear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:47:17 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2005, Noah wrote: > FreeBSD-4.11-p3 > nagios-2.0b3 > > I am attmepting to reinstall nagios-2.0b3 from /usr/ports. and cant seem to > figure out how to get the configuration option window back again > before building. > > 'make clean' does not work > > and > > 'rm -rf /var/db/ports/nagios/*' did not remove any relevant configuration files. The Nagios port doesn't have any configuration options. However, it installs the nagios-plugins port as a dependency. So deinstall the nagios-plugins port if necessary, and do a 'make config' in that directory. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:54:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828E916A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:54:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D342143D91 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:54:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 6812087 for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:50:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <20050507111529.GB1647@Alex.lan> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <185825015.20050507114535@x3k6a2.net> <20050507111529.GB1647@Alex.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <12d75ca324a0723762cec562f4536677@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:53:52 -0400 To: FreeBSD - Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:54:02 -0000 On May 7, 2005, at 7:15 AM, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:45:35AM +0200, X3K6A2 wrote: >>> Marc Fonvieille writes: >> >>>> All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their >>>> archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, >>>> visit >>>> the freebsd-blahblah Archives."). It is impossible to miss it. >> >>> Then why do so many forms require that you tick a checkbox to assert >>> that you've read and accepted the terms on the page? >> >>> In any case, nothing like that exists for FreeBSD lists. >> >> To make sure, that even the most dangerous people, to the society >> accept >> the fact, that they need to think for them self. > > How can one logicaly conclude that a message they send to the list is > included in google and other websites? Hmm...Googling for the mailing list name? Or Googling for what you're having a problem with in the first place...you know, what is advised as a good first step in the first place...and seeing, in the results, messages contained in the archives? I'd normally stop and think that maybe that would mean that postings would appear in the archive. Some people apparently wouldn't put 2 and 2 together and need to resort to hiding behind legalese to protect themselves from the onslaught of common sense or personal responsibility. > The damage of a lawsuite can be large to the BSD society. Just look at > what happend when the AT&T and BSD where involved in one. Is this one > reason realy that strong to risk this? You mean the one that set the precedents to allow FreeBSD to exist today? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 15:58:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4441F16A4DC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:58:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE03F43D7D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:58:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1034629nzp for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:58:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=WLyNwLbffiHXOCIgLlEpcgu/CenHl2NWNjdZGCOH53TVPvt+YAnSi2J4H6Bd84iVrQ4SIdW3HQo9eS65G+aVMcQauEs0fSjbOYzg+YR7wOnR97Mi2FJpWgZMTMd7VYWUkbkuABeOtoO6u5mjgjESjebU1nUwd1PVocwBQN722NA= Received: by 10.36.146.14 with SMTP id t14mr761765nzd; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.60.4 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf05050708586a2b92a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 09:58:38 -0600 From: Jon Drews To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Learning UNIX internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:58:39 -0000 Hi: I was thinking of getting one of these two books. I want to learn more about how UNIX and in particular, FreeBSD work. Has anyone read either of these books? UNIX Internals: The New Frontiers by Uresh Vahalia http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0131019082/ref=3Dpd_bxgy_img_= 2/104-6904022-3119131?v=3Dglance&s=3Dbooks&n=3D3863 Design of the UNIX Operating System (Prentice Hall Software Series) by Maurice J. Bach http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0132017997/ref=3Dcm_cr_dp= _2_1/104-6904022-3119131?%5Fencoding=3DUTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=3D-S= ubmissionDate&n=3D3863 --=20 Kind regards, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 16:01:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D893316A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:01:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830B043D70 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:01:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1154790wra for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:01:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CRZwu+wc3jr55gUdItuzOt7G1nReJtzeeQqRpA79K64s8k8sSiF4sarDbC2LIaVIWXrNq8xPoxyEwplvLxs4VtqzowLmiHyndgW1fq4IOlRLgcocCd4hI03kPmfxElbYju9nZg6HJx+KVUE97PD+9kHkWVL+rKISdXAi98vMafU= Received: by 10.54.13.63 with SMTP id 63mr1511688wrm; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.6 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63c3899e050507090157ad3e93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 17:01:48 +0100 From: Chris Hodgins To: Jon Drews In-Reply-To: <8cb27cbf05050708586a2b92a9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <8cb27cbf05050708586a2b92a9@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Learning UNIX internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:01:50 -0000 On 5/7/05, Jon Drews wrote: > Hi: >=20 > I was thinking of getting one of these two books. I want to learn > more about how UNIX and in particular, FreeBSD work. Has anyone read > either of these books? >=20 > UNIX Internals: The New Frontiers > by Uresh Vahalia >=20 > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0131019082/ref=3Dpd_bxgy_im= g_2/104-6904022-3119131?v=3Dglance&s=3Dbooks&n=3D3863 >=20 > Design of the UNIX Operating System (Prentice Hall Software Series) > by Maurice J. Bach > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0132017997/ref=3Dcm_cr_= dp_2_1/104-6904022-3119131?%5Fencoding=3DUTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=3D= -SubmissionDate&n=3D3863 > -- > Kind regards, > Jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201702452/rev= iews/026-9762435-1924466 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 16:30:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5277D16A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:30:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F4343D55 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:30:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1251220nzf for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:30:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e8ta8+CLLPA+Z+OrmoWO5xnr7lEjAQm27yJGZUY2tAjGMhurv12n04l/c4dO+JqrEfM037L5tIzaUV2t+JkkSiqIOD6BSyiWpdGb8UcWnCXwrleNHSBVXa9shHS0hVvo1spkOHL5iRz/+KTj4jRKVf3ea3mzneEZ9tgZrKLCPqw= Received: by 10.36.4.7 with SMTP id 7mr930334nzd; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.60.4 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf0505070930785d47d8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:30:00 -0600 From: Jon Drews To: Chris Hodgins In-Reply-To: <63c3899e050507090157ad3e93@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <8cb27cbf05050708586a2b92a9@mail.gmail.com> <63c3899e050507090157ad3e93@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Learning UNIX internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:30:01 -0000 On 5/7/05, Chris Hodgins wrote: > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: >=20 > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201702452/r= eviews/026-9762435-1924466 >=20 Thank you Chris: The problem is I don't know what semaphores, mutex locks or therading is. So this book is probably beyond my level. --=20 Kind regards, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 16:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25D916A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB1443D8A for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so772763wra for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:39:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AXaqqOd20s6kiH2uScrT4esLwQOneL9vkO16bS4cLDnPJj0Q5tHOq3MvPTYAQi6NyhmIMFA5/+amtNhR55r+IUOdAnczO7Zgxm4ZzZo+847GC2teLW0SKZHk2CAzJobzFPbPGgEzDvrYds4UZBB4vHejmb37nyf/pbRgiUIgakk= Received: by 10.54.144.12 with SMTP id r12mr1502694wrd; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.6 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63c3899e05050709395b522594@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 17:39:40 +0100 From: Chris Hodgins To: Jon Drews In-Reply-To: <8cb27cbf0505070930785d47d8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <8cb27cbf05050708586a2b92a9@mail.gmail.com> <63c3899e050507090157ad3e93@mail.gmail.com> <8cb27cbf0505070930785d47d8@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Learning UNIX internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:39:41 -0000 On 5/7/05, Jon Drews wrote: > On 5/7/05, Chris Hodgins wrote: > > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201702452= /reviews/026-9762435-1924466 > > >=20 > Thank you Chris: >=20 > The problem is I don't know what semaphores, mutex locks or therading > is. So this book is probably beyond my level. >=20 > -- > Kind regards, > Jonathan >=20 The book actually explains it all quite well. I don't think it presumes too much prior knowledge to be honest. Plus it really goes into a nice amount of detail of why each bit was designed a certain way and why. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 16:57:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EDA16A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:57:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D6543DA6 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:57:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 9599 invoked from network); 7 May 2005 16:57:02 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 May 2005 16:57:02 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7C5BD2F; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Jon Drews References: <8cb27cbf05050708586a2b92a9@mail.gmail.com> <63c3899e050507090157ad3e93@mail.gmail.com> <8cb27cbf0505070930785d47d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 07 May 2005 12:57:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8cb27cbf0505070930785d47d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44r7gj5602.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Learning UNIX internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:57:03 -0000 Jon Drews writes: > On 5/7/05, Chris Hodgins wrote: > > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: > > [McKusick/Neville-Neil,"The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System", ISBN 0201702452] > Thank you Chris: > > The problem is I don't know what semaphores, mutex locks or therading > is. So this book is probably beyond my level. Yes, it will be. You'll need something more basic to start with. While the books you asked about in your initial post will be okay, my suggestion would be [Tanenbaum, "Modern Operating Systems", ISBN 0130313580], which provides more of a theoretical background for OS concepts. It depends a little on your own ends, but I think that it is useful to understand what (for example) the idea of a mutex is, separately from how Unix implements one. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 16:59:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3049316A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:59:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE05043D5E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:59:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas.henry@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so706763nzo for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:59:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aU/evPDxfzVgsG5OEF7pg/0b/cvu1aR7XZFy336KV/lOmYr7DyZdOYku6aOSH8fgRqMryK6CZyFCnNrM0PNrYsgFNzDlKfxkCTZfI9tfFgWW4CZ8CCwwZPH0J7TnlKt+Ul6xqA+Gr7BIHOuGMGG1uH+pA7pZh0gWPjUrZDxLa6c= Received: by 10.36.46.8 with SMTP id t8mr839012nzt; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.2 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 12:59:22 -0400 From: Nicholas Henry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050503205915.GA16309@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050503205915.GA16309@gothmog.gr> Subject: firewall_enabled: not found mail message (was IPFW custom rules file not loading) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nicholas Henry List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:59:24 -0000 Thank you for you help - I misunderstood the firewall_script and firewall_type. Everything works well now. Just one annoying problem. I continually get a mail msg regarding firewall_enabled not found: >From operator@example.domain.ca Sat May 7 12:44:00 2005 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 12:44:00 -0400 (EDT) From: operator@example.domain.ca (Cron Daemon) To: operator@example.domain.ca Subject: Cron /usr/libexec/save-entropy firewall_enable: not found Can anyone tell me how to resolve this issue? Thanks again, Nicholas On 5/3/05, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-05-03 15:18, Nicholas Henry wrote: > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: firewall_enable: not found > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-b= ased forwarding dis$ > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Flushed all rules. > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Line 3: > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: bad command `ipfw' > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: Firewall rules loaded, starting divert dae= mons: > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: firewall_enable: not found > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: . > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: net.inet.ip.fw.enable: > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: 1 > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: -> > > May 3 14:25:22 babe kernel: 1 > > > > I'm refering to the "bad command 'ipfw'" line. I'm also concerned > > about the "firewall_enable" not found message. >=20 > It's normal. You're using firewall_type and yet you have written a > firewall _script_ in /etc/ipfw.rules. >=20 > > ** start rc.conf snippet ** > > firewall_enable=3D"YES" > > firewall_script=3D"/etc/rc.firewall" > > firewall_type=3D"/etc/ipfw.rules" > > firewall_quiet=3D"NO" > > firewall_logging=3D"NO" > > firewall_flags=3D"" > > ** send rc.conf snippet ** >=20 > Your firewall_type points to a pathname, so the file should contain > rules in the form: >=20 > check-state > add allow tcp from any to any 80 keep-state > add block ip from any to any >=20 > > ** start ipfw.rules ** > > > > #!/bin/sh > > # Flush out the list before we begin. > > ipfw -q -f flush > > > > # Set rules command prefix > > cmd=3D"ipfw -q add" > > skip=3D"skipto 801" > > pif=3D"fxp0" #found by doing a ifconfig or netstat -nr > > # public interface name of NIC >=20 > Your ipfw.rules file is written in the form of a firewall_script. > The difference between the two is small but important. >=20 > A firewall_type file contains just a set of rules that ipfw(8) will > parse, without intervention by a shell. >=20 > A firewall_script is executed by the /bin/sh shell, as a normal shell > script. One example of what can be used as a firewall_script is > /etc/rc.firewall (in pre-5.X versions) or /etc/rc.d/ipfw (in FreeBSD > 5.X or later). >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:11:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1637A16A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:11:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A024743D75 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:11:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C81C8C5E5 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: ZNodJowKsVF3Yk0YFvQwHNGvfpA52Ti5Q7I7FwYG6Wow 1115485872 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-79-141.access.as9105.com [80.41.79.141]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C64B5F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 18:10:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505071316.58645.cworthy@myrealbox.com> In-Reply-To: <200505071316.58645.cworthy@myrealbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505071810.45469.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Issue with Timezone in KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:11:14 -0000 On Saturday 07 May 2005 14:16, Colin Worthy wrote: > I am having an odd issue with setting the correct timezone in KDE. I have > set the correct timezone from the command line and it seems to stay for a > while, but eventually is reverting to UTC time. I should be in Central > Daylight time (Americas/Chicago). If I try to set the correct timezone > from within KDE it simply ignores my change and stays set on UTC time. > > I am using NTP to try to keep the time on my machine correct. This problem > has only recently come up. I am not sure when exactly, but it used to > always have the correct time. > > Therefore my machine is currently displaying UTC time, which is about 5 > hours too fast. > > I would really appreciate anyones help in trying to figure out what I am > doing wrong. Try running sysinstall as root, and go though the timezone setup under configure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:39:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0452C16A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:39:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7621043DAC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:39:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 38EF71C000A9 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:39:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 124AE1C000A4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:39:27 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507173927750.124AE1C000A4@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:39:26 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <873588665.20050507193926@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <427CC59B.8000501@makeworld.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org> <585260306.20050507105135@wanadoo.fr> <427CC59B.8000501@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:39:29 -0000 Chris writes: > ... in order for someone to "claim" a violation of copyright, it MUST > be registered with the copyright office (at least here in the States). For civil procedures involving works of U.S. origin, yes. But you don't have to register way in advance, you only have to register before the suit is filed. > In your postings Anthony, you touch on everything before that very > important point, AND after. You never once mention the fact that a > person NEEDS to take that one extra step. All of this is irrelevant to the fact that posts are copyrighted by their authors, with or without registration. > So, in my view - this makes the whole issue (and thread) pointless > unless someone has taken that one, last step. You're saying that you ignore the law unless someone forces you to obey it. Infringement of copyrights that are unregistered is just as real as infringement of copyrights that are registered. It is just as dishonest, illegal, and unethical. > There is simply no point in arguing this UNLESS you can PROVE that you > have filed the paperwork to actually allow you to force the law to > look into copyright infringement. For those of us with ethics and conscience, registration is irrelevant. We do not refrain from infringement out of fear of prosecution, we refrain because infringement is wrong. > End of discussion. Now - for those that are bitching that they feel they > have been violated, PROVE to us that YOU filed for the copyright, else - > get a life or remove yourself from the list. Be careful what you write. It looks like you're saying that you're aware of the infringement and acknowledge it, but you just don't care, which makes the infingement willful and malicious. You're essentially saying "I'll do what I want, and if you don't like it, come and get me," which can be very unpleasant if someone takes you up on the offer. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:42:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841D816A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:42:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3486D43D9B for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:42:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 592EA1C00084 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:42:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 39BDD1C00083 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:42:20 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507174220236.39BDD1C00083@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:42:19 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <997333423.20050507194219@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <63c3899e05050708051622fbb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> <20050507110343.GA1647@Alex.lan> <1183634761.20050507133237@wanadoo.fr> <63c3899e05050708051622fbb2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:42:21 -0000 Chris Hodgins writes: > This keeps coming up time and time again. Why don't we simply put up > a message on the subscription page that says if you subscribe you > agree that your messages will be archived for public viewing. End of > story. No more bitchy emails on this subject, no more heated debates > and much more time devoted to talking about FreeBSD. I agree. The text should be reviewed by a lawyer, and the subscription process must be designed such that it is impossible to subscribe without explicitly accepting the conditions (by clicking a box, or something). Note that this will apply only to new subscribers, not existing subscribers, for whom the problem remains. Also, you must make it clear in the conditions whether or not posts will be archived even after a member of the list unsubscribes. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:48:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE4116A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:48:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B38E43D49 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:48:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE19A60E4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03356-05 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:48:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A309560D7 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427CFF6C.6070607@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:48:28 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org> <585260306.20050507105135@wanadoo.fr> <427CC59B.8000501@makeworld.com> <873588665.20050507193926@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <873588665.20050507193926@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:48:51 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chris writes: > > >>... in order for someone to "claim" a violation of copyright, it MUST >>be registered with the copyright office (at least here in the States). > > > For civil procedures involving works of U.S. origin, yes. But you don't > have to register way in advance, you only have to register before the > suit is filed. > > >>In your postings Anthony, you touch on everything before that very >>important point, AND after. You never once mention the fact that a >>person NEEDS to take that one extra step. > > > All of this is irrelevant to the fact that posts are copyrighted by > their authors, with or without registration. > > >>So, in my view - this makes the whole issue (and thread) pointless >>unless someone has taken that one, last step. > > > You're saying that you ignore the law unless someone forces you to obey > it. Infringement of copyrights that are unregistered is just as real as > infringement of copyrights that are registered. It is just as dishonest, > illegal, and unethical. > > >>There is simply no point in arguing this UNLESS you can PROVE that you >>have filed the paperwork to actually allow you to force the law to >>look into copyright infringement. > > > For those of us with ethics and conscience, registration is irrelevant. > We do not refrain from infringement out of fear of prosecution, we > refrain because infringement is wrong. > > >>End of discussion. Now - for those that are bitching that they feel they >>have been violated, PROVE to us that YOU filed for the copyright, else - >>get a life or remove yourself from the list. > > > Be careful what you write. It looks like you're saying that you're aware > of the infringement and acknowledge it, but you just don't care, which > makes the infingement willful and malicious. You're essentially saying > "I'll do what I want, and if you don't like it, come and get me," which > can be very unpleasant if someone takes you up on the offer. > No Anthony - you miss my point completly. The point that "I'm" making is that I could care less what I write in a public forum (such as this list), even tho "I" have the copyright on what I post. If I have something that I don't people to hear or know - I simply don't post such information. Plain and simple. That's just common sence - and it appears that there is a lacking of it in todays society. -- Best regards, Chris Everything happens at the same time with nothing in between. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:53:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15F516A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:53:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F2643D45 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:53:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7DCE11C00094 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:53:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 402721C0008E for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:53:08 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507175308262.402721C0008E@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:53:06 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <798745799.20050507195306@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:53:09 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > Dilemma...how do I get permission to quote you to reply to you? You can e-mail me and ask. However, backquoting of portions of a message generally falls within the scope of fair use, IMO (IANAL). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:57:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2793316A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E44F43D1D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD1560E4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:57:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08238-07 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:56:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0818460D7 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:56:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427D015C.1070907@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:56:44 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> <798745799.20050507195306@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <798745799.20050507195306@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:57:08 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > > >>Dilemma...how do I get permission to quote you to reply to you? > > > You can e-mail me and ask. However, backquoting of portions of a > message generally falls within the scope of fair use, IMO (IANAL). > If thats what it comes down to - then sending emails, lists, bloggs, etc are all willfull violations of copyright - Oh nooooo - where do you draw the line!!! -- Best regards, Chris He who marries for money ... better be nice to his wife. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 18:01:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF0C16A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:01:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850D043D8C for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:01:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BD560E4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:01:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08238-08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:00:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6BF60D7 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:00:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427D024A.9040601@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:00:42 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> <798745799.20050507195306@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <798745799.20050507195306@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:01:06 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > > >>Dilemma...how do I get permission to quote you to reply to you? > > > You can e-mail me and ask. However, backquoting of portions of a > message generally falls within the scope of fair use, IMO (IANAL). > Here - let's do this. Nobody can reply to, reproduce, referance, show, etc. this email without written consent be my. Now - Anthony, are you gonna reply to this? in email? in the list? If so - you are violating the copyright. -- Best regards, Chris He who marries for money ... better be nice to his wife. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 18:13:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C54916A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:13:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9474C43D1F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:13:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5454634DA11; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1B834D435; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427D0557.7010006@cloudview.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:13:43 -0700 From: John Pettitt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: racerx@makeworld.com References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> <798745799.20050507195306@wanadoo.fr> <427D024A.9040601@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <427D024A.9040601@makeworld.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: by skipjack cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:13:45 -0000 Chris wrote: >Nobody can reply to, reproduce, referance, show, etc. this email without >written consent be my. > > The courts, wisely, have declined to say quoting a set amount is ok or define any other bright line test. Since there is no "bright line" test for fair use it comes down to is is reasonable to quote for one of the reasons supported by the fair use doctrine. In this case criticism. There are plenty of decisions supporting taking a small part of a work and quoting it for critical purposes - in trying to negate that right you are fighting an uphill battle that has little probability of prevailing in court. Further in asking that your post not be referenced you are trying to impose private censorship - there is no provision of copyright law (or any other law) that prohibits referencing another work (as my satirical post yesterday pointed out). Lastly by trying to prohibit people from showing your post you are trying to invoke a trade secret relationship where no contractual basis exists. In other words your post is basically BS and wouldn't stand up to a first year law student on a bad day. John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 18:13:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA7F16A4DC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:13:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zero.ramb.com.ua (zero.ramb.com.ua [62.149.0.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFFD43D9D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:13:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Received: from ip.85.202.142.248.dyn.pool-3.broadband.voliacable.com (ip.85.202.142.248.dyn.pool-3.broadband.voliacable.com [85.202.142.248]) by zero.ramb.com.ua (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j47LHtG5064194; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:18:04 GMT (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 21:13:33 +0300 From: "Sergey S. Ropchan" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <571455480.20050507211333@ramb.com.ua> To: Chris Hodgins In-Reply-To: <63c3899e050507090157ad3e93@mail.gmail.com> References: <8cb27cbf05050708586a2b92a9@mail.gmail.com> <63c3899e050507090157ad3e93@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/868/Wed May 4 16:35:19 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on zero.ramb.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=6.3 tests=HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on zero.ramb.com.ua cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Learning UNIX internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Sergey S. Ropchan" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:13:51 -0000 =0D=0A> On 5/7/05, Jon Drews wrote: >> Hi: >>=20 >> I was thinking of getting one of these two books. I want to learn >> more about how UNIX and in particular, FreeBSD work. Has anyone read >> either of these books? >>=20 >> UNIX Internals: The New Frontiers >> by Uresh Vahalia I have read this book. I guess it's a good choise not only for you but for others too. A lot of useful information about different *nix systems implementations with good explanations (mutexe, threads, process, scheduler .. etc). >>=20 >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0131019082/ref=3Dpd_bxgy_i= mg_2/104-6904022-3119131?v=3Dglance&s=3Dbooks&n=3D3863 >>=20 >> Design of the UNIX Operating System (Prentice Hall Software Series) >> by Maurice J. Bach This book more difficult (in educational purposes) then book above, you can= read it after Unix Internals ... by Uresh Vahalia. This is my personal opinion. >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0132017997/ref=3Dcm_cr= _dp_2_1/104-6904022-3119131?%5Fencoding=3DUTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby= =3D-SubmissionDate&n=3D3863 >> -- >> Kind regards, >> Jonathan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201702452/r= eviews/026-9762435-1924466 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 =D1 =F3=E2=E0=E6=E5=ED=E8=E5=EC, Sergey mailto:fenix@ramb.com.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 18:19:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211D916A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:19:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhost.u-strasbg.fr (mailhost.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.200.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FB743DB1 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:19:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Philippe.Pegon@crc.u-strasbg.fr) Received: from sokaris.u-strasbg.fr (sokaris.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402::101])id j47IJtEN039094 ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:19:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (crc.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402:1001::1]) j47IJstt080666 ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:19:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <427D07E0.4060109@crc.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:24:32 +0200 From: Philippe PEGON User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050331) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: regisr References: <20050507113916.15da1090.regisr@regix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050507113916.15da1090.regisr@regix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (mailhost.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402::157]); Sat, 07 May 2005 20:19:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophos at u-strasbg.fr cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How-to change permission on SCSI devices? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:19:58 -0000 regisr a écrit : > I am looking for a FAQ about dynamic devices: > In 5.3 (and 5.4..) SCSI devices nodes (/dev/pass*) are created when > discovered (at boot or when running "camcontrol rescan ... " ) > How to change the permissions on the /dev/pass* ? (not manualy of > course ;-) > OK, I can wrote a shell for this but if there is a less dirty > possibility... > you can do like this : add this line in /etc/rc.conf : devfs_system_ruleset="my_ruleset" and create /etc/devfs.rules like this : [my_ruleset=10] add path 'pass*' mode 666 -- Philippe PEGON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 18:37:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8186116A4DB for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:37:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D64E43D54 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:37:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 778F61C0009F for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:37:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5DB5E1C0009D for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:37:34 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507183734383.5DB5E1C0009D@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 20:37:34 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1396794245.20050507203734@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <427D015C.1070907@makeworld.com> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> <798745799.20050507195306@wanadoo.fr> <427D015C.1070907@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:37:35 -0000 Chris writes: > If thats what it comes down to - then sending emails, lists, bloggs, etc > are all willfull violations of copyright - Oh nooooo - where do you > draw the line!!! Some are, some aren't. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 18:46:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782E816A4DC for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:46:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1336C43D6A for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCC960E4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:46:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54819-04 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:46:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714DC60D7 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:46:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427D0CEE.9080002@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:46:06 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> <798745799.20050507195306@wanadoo.fr> <427D015C.1070907@makeworld.com> <1396794245.20050507203734@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1396794245.20050507203734@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:46:22 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chris writes: > > >>If thats what it comes down to - then sending emails, lists, bloggs, etc >>are all willfull violations of copyright - Oh nooooo - where do you >>draw the line!!! > > > Some are, some aren't. > This whole thing is silly (the isues at hand, meaning - copyright/FBSD-list/Google). You see - if you post on the FBSD list, even if it does not get access at all by anyone (meaning Google) its still public because someone goes to the FBSD site, searches the archieves - and bingo, I can see a bunch of posts by anyone or anything that made it to the list. The point is - its public. Anyone can access it. Now, what's the diff if you get to it via Google or the FreeBSD site itself? Isnt it still public? The only that has changed, is that you need to go to the FBSD site, and search for it yourself. I really don't see the diff on this. Public is public. Unless someone knows of a meaning other then that. Or - unless you pull a statement like: it depends on what the meaning is, is. -- Best regards, Chris If you have watched a TV series only once, and you watch it again, it will be a rerun of the same episode. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:03:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBC816A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:03:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C08A43DA4 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:03:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from [192.168.1.239] (12-202-24-76.client.insightbb.com[12.202.24.76]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050507200338i9100ajr4ne>; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:03:38 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 16:03:32 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505071603.32606.FreeBSD@InsightBB.com> Subject: using groff macros X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:03:39 -0000 I'm experimenting with groff macros and I've placed '.B some text' into a file. I don't know what command line options to get groff to spit it out as bold text. I've tried groff -man -T ascii filename | more but it just swallows the text. I've read many man pages but I'm not getting a thread to follow. About ten years ago I used nroff on a Gould UTX-32 (Unix) system, but I can't remember much. I believe I simply used 'nroff -man filename'. What I'm actually trying to do is create fortunes with bold, italic, and underlined words. I redirected man pages into a file and discovered that S backspace S will produce a bold S, and _ backspace S will produce S in reverse video. I added sequences like this to my fortune file, but then it's a bear to read. So I was hoping to use something from the roff family and their macros. -- i386 FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE There are 10 types of people in this world. Ones that understand binary and then, the others. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:07:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D607C16A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:07:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB6B43D80 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:07:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from [192.168.1.239] (12-202-24-76.client.insightbb.com[12.202.24.76]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050507200741i9100ajd63e>; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:07:41 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 16:07:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505071607.35549.FreeBSD@InsightBB.com> Subject: LEARN available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:07:42 -0000 On page http://wolfram.schneider.org/bsd/7thEdManVol2/ there is a paper about LEARN -- Computer-Aided Instruction on UNIX Does anyone know if this program is available? -- i386 FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE There are 10 types of people in this world. Ones that understand binary and then, the others. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:46:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252C316A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:46:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7597743DB0 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:46:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 2940 invoked by uid 207); 7 May 2005 20:46:03 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.18):. Processed in 1.01297 secs); 07 May 2005 20:46:03 -0000 Received: from dialup18.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.18]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 7 May 2005 20:46:01 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j47KaGAU021974; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:36:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j47KaFB2021958; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:36:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 23:36:13 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <20050507203612.GB9298@gothmog.gr> References: <200505071603.32606.FreeBSD@InsightBB.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505071603.32606.FreeBSD@InsightBB.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using groff macros X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:46:08 -0000 On 2005-05-07 16:03, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I'm experimenting with groff macros and I've placed '.B some text' > into a file. I don't know what command line options to get groff to > spit it out as bold text. > > I've tried groff -man -T ascii filename | more > > but it just swallows the text. I've read many man pages but I'm not > getting a thread to follow. Just a plain .B is not enough for groff to make text bold. The -man macros require other troff requests too, before they output any text on a page. Try the following two examples, for instance, and see the difference in the output they produce: 1. Bold text shouldn't be visible (but it's still there). cat < About ten years ago I used nroff on a Gould UTX-32 (Unix) system, > but I can't remember much. I believe I simply used 'nroff -man > filename'. > > What I'm actually trying to do is create fortunes with bold, italic, > and underlined words. I redirected man pages into a file and > discovered that S backspace S will produce a bold S, and _ backspace > S will produce S in reverse video. I added sequences like this to > my fortune file, but then it's a bear to read. So I was hoping to > use something from the roff family and their macros. You don't really need groff for that. Plain terminal escape sequences can yield better output than groff-formatted material: $ echo -e '\033[1mfoo\033[0m: an example of \033[4mbar\033[0m.' - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:59:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEAA16A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:59:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F22843D9A for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:59:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j47Kxob76511; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:59:18 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <427D0CEE.9080002@makeworld.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:59:39 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:46 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! > > > Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Chris writes: > > > > > >>If thats what it comes down to - then sending emails, lists, > bloggs, etc > >>are all willfull violations of copyright - Oh nooooo - where do you > >>draw the line!!! > > > > > > Some are, some aren't. > > > > This whole thing is silly (the isues at hand, meaning - > copyright/FBSD-list/Google). > > You see - if you post on the FBSD list, even if it does not get access > at all by anyone (meaning Google) its still public No, it's not. But, neither is it private. Electronic mailing lists, website blogs, and such, are all lumped into that wonderfully grey area of "there ain't no caselaw on this yet" The world's legal community doesen't really know exactly what to do with them at this point. These medium wern't addressed during the last Berne convention. The closest they got was: "The expression "literary and artistic works" shall include every production in the literary, scientific and artistic domain, whatever may be the mode or form of its expression, such as books, pamphlets and other writings; lectures, addresses, sermons and other works of the same nature...... ...It shall, however, be a matter for legislation in the countries of the Union to prescribe that works in general or any specified categories of works shall not be protected unless they have been fixed in some material form....The protection of this Convention shall not apply to news of the day or to miscellaneous facts having the character of mere items of press information" So, you see, going strictly by Berne you can punch holes in it as such: 1) a mailing list posting particularly a response to a question, isn't a "work" 2) "other writings" the act of e-mail isn't "writing" at least under the United States, because if it was, then the DMCA would be invalidated under First Amendment 3) Few countries have passed any kinds of laws specifying that e-mail is or isn't a protected work 4) Posts on a mailing list, particularly as they normally have little applicability to the long term, are much more in the area of "news of the day" or "miscellaneous facts" And of course, a countries national laws override Berne at all times. And as the countries of the world have a tremendous mismatch of laws regarding the Internet at this time, what is legal one place isn't elsewhere, and one countries laws aren't enforceable on another country. And this isn't even addressing the legal doctorine of Fair Use which already applies in most of these cases and would override any of the rediculous speculation on this that has been posted already. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:02:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF23316A4DD; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:02:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561C343D86; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j47L2Zb76534; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" , , , Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:02:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:02:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Fafa Hafiz > Krantz > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:40 AM > To: questions@freebsd.org; lists@freebsd.org; owner@www.freebsd.org > Subject: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! > > > > Hello. > > I have a big problem. My privacy has been violated. > > I had no idea when I first started writing posts to the FreeBSD > mailinglist that it would be archived, let alone indexed by Google > so that the world can spy on my words. > Looks like you aren't acquainted with the legal doctrine of Fair Use. Guess you will have to start using some other name online, since there's no way to prove that any of these alleged posts your claiming are violated, were in fact, actually made by the real Fafa Hafiz Krantz. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:05:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9943B16A4DD; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:05:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4430D43DB3; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:05:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B4460E4; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:05:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00696-04; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:05:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B9160E3; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427D2D8D.8030508@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:05:17 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: lists@freebsd.org cc: owner@www.freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:05:28 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Fafa Hafiz >>Krantz >>Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:40 AM >>To: questions@freebsd.org; lists@freebsd.org; owner@www.freebsd.org >>Subject: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! >> >> >> >>Hello. >> >>I have a big problem. My privacy has been violated. >> >>I had no idea when I first started writing posts to the FreeBSD >>mailinglist that it would be archived, let alone indexed by Google >>so that the world can spy on my words. >> > > > Looks like you aren't acquainted with the legal doctrine of > Fair Use. Guess you will have to start using some other name > online, since there's no way to prove that any of these alleged > posts your claiming are violated, were in fact, actually made > by the real Fafa Hafiz Krantz. > > Ted Awe Ted ... Yer a spoil-sport *laffs* -- Best regards, Chris Real programmers know what saad means. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:19:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3309816A4DD; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:19:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01C743D70; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:19:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j47LJbb76650; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: , "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:19:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <427D2D8D.8030508@makeworld.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: owner@www.freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: lists@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:19:13 -0000 Chris, I'm surprised at you! Why did you pass up the opportunity to forge Fafa's name as the sender, to illustrate the point to the clueless better. ;-) Oh dear, I guess I'm gonna get sued for identity theft!! ;-) Ted, forging Fafa. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:racerx@makeworld.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 2:05 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz; questions@freebsd.org; lists@freebsd.org; > owner@www.freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Fafa Hafiz > >>Krantz > >>Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:40 AM > >>To: questions@freebsd.org; lists@freebsd.org; owner@www.freebsd.org > >>Subject: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! > >> > >> > >> > >>Hello. > >> > >>I have a big problem. My privacy has been violated. > >> > >>I had no idea when I first started writing posts to the FreeBSD > >>mailinglist that it would be archived, let alone indexed by Google > >>so that the world can spy on my words. > >> > > > > > > Looks like you aren't acquainted with the legal doctrine of > > Fair Use. Guess you will have to start using some other name > > online, since there's no way to prove that any of these alleged > > posts your claiming are violated, were in fact, actually made > > by the real Fafa Hafiz Krantz. > > > > Ted > > Awe Ted ... Yer a spoil-sport *laffs* > > > -- > Best regards, > Chris > > Real programmers know what saad means. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:37:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F68C16A4E0 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:37:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FCE43D98 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1223470wri for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:37:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=asO07zeU7KIzUjQjGAeVxq+9xbvdtDStQ3JIVKfvw+5NugqAIoKAhXzRudxrIG+29tvT1oF5bH9HG45ytecDkQxMKOinWZk057lE1vMT2/O5pEFkbvQ2nAmhMafjGhxGN1dFLdd86RzfeEcUDxvc/83IDRmpgoTQt78jV2KJFgM= Received: by 10.54.156.15 with SMTP id d15mr1595218wre; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.47 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:37:37 +1200 From: Juha Saarinen To: racerx@makeworld.com In-Reply-To: <427D015C.1070907@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1997311903.20050506130845@wanadoo.fr> <0AC758EB7E2462CBCDB89994@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <1946109313.20050506204814@wanadoo.fr> <332ca468819dcb4bdaf5a1e9a8fb283e@chrononomicon.com> <427D015C.1070907@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juha Saarinen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:37:39 -0000 On 5/8/05, Chris wrote: >=20 > Anthony Atkielski wrote: >=20 OK, this is arguably Anthony's best-ever troll, and ranks pretty highly whe= n=20 compared to past list trolling.=20 Could someone give the man an award for his achievements and then let's kil= l=20 this useless mega-thread. --=20 Juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:56:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B603016A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:56:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDE7B43D76 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:56:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.local) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.25.189 with plain) by smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2005 21:56:38 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:56:34 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <427CC59B.8000501@makeworld.com> <873588665.20050507193926@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <873588665.20050507193926@wanadoo.fr> X-Face: "u-%.52Z_uQCP'Vdj{95/n*(sgAAm`F/p'b0zo%-DuBTdZ*qW!!/idDBRjkFfJD[Qe&>=?utf-8?q?=5F2=0A=09?=<}OGsEY~)n?NywZRi9xm-jH_VPg"8nTSzo:r8;U3oTQz|@z)|>%i+MRY2Y#>s~X`sV$&t"=?utf-8?q?=0A=09AkQ=5EU3rJIFCU=3F=5DcC=27F=26fY4=23Jf-=7D=3F7x?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505071456.34360.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:56:39 -0000 On Sat 7 May 05 10:39, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > For those of us with ethics and conscience, registration is > irrelevant. We do not refrain from infringement out of fear of > prosecution, we refrain because infringement is wrong. Where is the infringement here? Have you spoken to an actual lawyer about this issue? I have. Guess what he said? - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:01:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D8416A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEE843DA3 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:01:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A5A381C0008A for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:01:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8B3D81C00084 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:01:12 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507220112570.8B3D81C00084@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 00:01:12 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <141663699.20050508000112@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200505071456.34360.krinklyfig@spymac.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <427CC59B.8000501@makeworld.com> <873588665.20050507193926@wanadoo.fr> <200505071456.34360.krinklyfig@spymac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:01:14 -0000 Joshua Tinnin writes: > Where is the infringement here? Reproducing a copyrighted work without permission. > Have you spoken to an actual lawyer about this issue? I have. Guess what > he said? I prefer not to guess. Invite him here. In any case, lawyers don't decide what is or isn't infringement; courts do. And in the world of IP, it's often a roll of the dice. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:12:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6974916A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:12:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20E1F43D78 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.local) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.25.189 with plain) by smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2005 22:12:11 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:12:06 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200505071456.34360.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <141663699.20050508000112@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <141663699.20050508000112@wanadoo.fr> X-Face: "u-%.52Z_uQCP'Vdj{95/n*(sgAAm`F/p'b0zo%-DuBTdZ*qW!!/idDBRjkFfJD[Qe&>=?utf-8?q?=5F2=0A=09?=<}OGsEY~)n?NywZRi9xm-jH_VPg"8nTSzo:r8;U3oTQz|@z)|>%i+MRY2Y#>s~X`sV$&t"=?utf-8?q?=0A=09AkQ=5EU3rJIFCU=3F=5DcC=27F=26fY4=23Jf-=7D=3F7x?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505071512.06783.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:12:12 -0000 On Sat 7 May 05 15:01, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Joshua Tinnin writes: > > Where is the infringement here? > > Reproducing a copyrighted work without permission. Then so is every single tech help list with public archives. Or every single email list with public archives. I'm subscribed personally to scores of them, and those lists are a tiny fraction of all of them. Some of them have been in existence before the web. I can't figure out why you keep harping on an issue like this that is not at all unique to FreeBSD, nor even open source. Why don't you head over to some other tech lists for a while and complain about this? Say, have you read over the legal documents pertaining to when DejaNews and later Google archived Usenet? It would be educational for you to peruse them. > > Have you spoken to an actual lawyer about this issue? I have. Guess > > what he said? > > I prefer not to guess. Invite him here. > > In any case, lawyers don't decide what is or isn't infringement; > courts do. And in the world of IP, it's often a roll of the dice. Yes, but you're not a lawyer, yet you persist in talking about these matters as if you had some authority. I hate to bring up the old cliche ... but, seriously, Anthony, most of what you do here is spread: Fear Uncertainty Doubt Anyway, I'll leave you guessing at what he said. But, just to give you a hint, he was laughing when he said it. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:18:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F3216A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:18:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9551A43DA7 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:18:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0E760E4; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:18:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26032-02; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:18:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A206B60E3; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:17:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <427D3E98.4030505@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:18:00 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Tinnin References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200505071456.34360.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <141663699.20050508000112@wanadoo.fr> <200505071512.06783.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200505071512.06783.krinklyfig@spymac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:18:08 -0000 Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Sat 7 May 05 15:01, Anthony Atkielski > wrote: > >>Joshua Tinnin writes: ... Snip > I hate to bring up the old cliche ... but, seriously, Anthony, most of > what you do here is spread: > > Fear > Uncertainty > Doubt Oh no!!! Fear? Uncertainty? Doubt? I guess OpenSource isnt the way to go. I guess FreeBSD isnt right for me. Oh no - Look at all this termoil... I guess I should just buy the Microsoft product so I won't violate anything. Surely becasue if I pay for it - everything is Ok then. Oh no. -- Best regards, Chris The faster the plane, the narrower the seats. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:32:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDD216A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:32:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96C343DB8 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:32:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1BFC8CA48 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:32:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: Lk6juj7jWvAUtyCvzZXFYvwR6SmboDy+2GZD+lCUenBx 1115505140 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-79-141.access.as9105.com [80.41.79.141]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD6E56F785 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:32:19 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 23:31:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <8cb27cbf05050708586a2b92a9@mail.gmail.com> <63c3899e050507090157ad3e93@mail.gmail.com> <8cb27cbf0505070930785d47d8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb27cbf0505070930785d47d8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505072331.54957.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Learning UNIX internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:32:23 -0000 On Saturday 07 May 2005 17:30, Jon Drews wrote: > On 5/7/05, Chris Hodgins wrote: > > If you are interested in Unix and FreeBSD this is a good choice: > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201702452/r > >eviews/026-9762435-1924466 > > Thank you Chris: > > The problem is I don't know what semaphores, mutex locks or therading > is. So this book is probably beyond my level. If you put words like "monitor thread mutex semaphore" into google you will find a lot of introductory comp-sci lecture notes on this subject. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:35:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557DC16A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B534043D99 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:35:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG500HKL5EHGH@smtp13.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 00:35:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j47MYu82009273; Sun, 08 May 2005 00:34:56 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j47MYuXW009272; Sun, 08 May 2005 00:34:56 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 00:34:56 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200505071810.45469.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> To: RW Message-id: <20050507223455.GA1896@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <200505071316.58645.cworthy@myrealbox.com> <200505071810.45469.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Issue with Timezone in KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:35:07 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 06:10:45PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Saturday 07 May 2005 14:16, Colin Worthy wrote: > > I am having an odd issue with setting the correct timezone in KDE. I have > > set the correct timezone from the command line and it seems to stay for a > > while, but eventually is reverting to UTC time. I should be in Central > > Daylight time (Americas/Chicago). If I try to set the correct timezone > > from within KDE it simply ignores my change and stays set on UTC time. > > > > I am using NTP to try to keep the time on my machine correct. This problem > > has only recently come up. I am not sure when exactly, but it used to > > always have the correct time. > > > > Therefore my machine is currently displaying UTC time, which is about 5 > > hours too fast. > > > > I would really appreciate anyones help in trying to figure out what I am > > doing wrong. > > Try running sysinstall as root, and go though the timezone setup under > configure. I have this to and have no solution. The problem is _not_ that the time of the OS is wrong, but that KDE suddenly deside it should show the time as if you where in lets say moscow. -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:35:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC1916A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:35:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2949543D72 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:35:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3FDBF1C00095 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:35:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 208B21C00091 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:35:36 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050507223536133.208B21C00091@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 00:35:35 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1825384717.20050508003535@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200505071512.06783.krinklyfig@spymac.com> References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200505071456.34360.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200505071512.06783.krinklyfig@spymac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:35:37 -0000 Joshua Tinnin writes: > Then so is every single tech help list with public archives. Yes. The fact that certain infringing actions may take place with great frequency does not make them any less infringing. > Some of them have been in existence before the web. I can't figure out > why you keep harping on an issue like this that is not at all unique to > FreeBSD, nor even open source. It's a matter of conscience and ethics. > Why don't you head over to some other tech lists for a while > and complain about this? I worry mainly about lists to which I subscribe. > Say, have you read over the legal documents pertaining to when DejaNews > and later Google archived Usenet? Yes, long ago. > It would be educational for you to peruse them. It was. > Yes, but you're not a lawyer, yet you persist in talking about these > matters as if you had some authority. You're not a lawyer, either, as far as I know. > I hate to bring up the old cliche ... but, seriously, Anthony, most of > what you do here is spread: > > Fear > Uncertainty > Doubt Much of the prudence that lawful behavior demands is based on these. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:44:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8A316A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:44:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E3E043D68 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.local) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.25.189 with plain) by smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2005 22:44:15 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:44:12 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200505071512.06783.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <1825384717.20050508003535@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1825384717.20050508003535@wanadoo.fr> X-Face: "u-%.52Z_uQCP'Vdj{95/n*(sgAAm`F/p'b0zo%-DuBTdZ*qW!!/idDBRjkFfJD[Qe&>=?utf-8?q?=5F2=0A=09?=<}OGsEY~)n?NywZRi9xm-jH_VPg"8nTSzo:r8;U3oTQz|@z)|>%i+MRY2Y#>s~X`sV$&t"=?utf-8?q?=0A=09AkQ=5EU3rJIFCU=3F=5DcC=27F=26fY4=23Jf-=7D=3F7x?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505071544.13025.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:44:16 -0000 On Sat 7 May 05 15:35, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Joshua Tinnin writes: > > I hate to bring up the old cliche ... but, seriously, Anthony, most > > of what you do here is spread: > > > > Fear > > Uncertainty > > Doubt > > Much of the prudence that lawful behavior demands is based on these. You live life your way. Let others do the same. I do not live my life in fear, but nor do I live it in an uninformed manner. If you're serious about this, complaining to the main FreeBSD tech help list won't change anything. You need to do a massive, worldwide campaign. This could be the next Napster ... just think about it. Now, go out and hire a lawyer on contingency who's crazy enough to take the case, and go make some waves. But, please, stop with the constant flow of this ... stuff, at least on this list, ok? It's getting old, and it's going nowhere, in case you haven't noticed. If it concerns you that much, you can always unsubscribe (ah, but it's never enough to cause that, as it's just too much fun to be the gadfly, isn't it?). - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 23:08:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2267F16A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:08:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE6643DBD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:08:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG500APJ6Y5CC@smtp18.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:08:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j47N8KvK010062; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:08:20 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j47N8K3B010061; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:08:20 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 01:08:20 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <63c3899e05050708051622fbb2@mail.gmail.com> To: Chris Hodgins Message-id: <20050507230820.GB1896@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> <20050507110343.GA1647@Alex.lan> <1183634761.20050507133237@wanadoo.fr> <63c3899e05050708051622fbb2@mail.gmail.com> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 23:08:31 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Chris Hodgins wrote: > This keeps coming up time and time again. Why don't we simply put up > a message on the subscription page that says if you subscribe you > agree that your messages will be archived for public viewing. End of > story. No more bitchy emails on this subject, no more heated debates > and much more time devoted to talking about FreeBSD. I agree with the outline of you message. But it does mather where the text is placed. Someone else can also subscribe you. In such cases the text is bypassed. Isn't there a mail send that you need to confirm. One can reasanably asume that the owner have read this. The text it self of a link to it whould be wise IMHO. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 23:41:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B28F16A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:41:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D270F43D86 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG500A5A8GBC9@smtp18.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:40:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j47NeoR6010185 for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:40:50 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j47NencE010184 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:40:49 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 01:40:49 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <1183634761.20050507133237@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050507234049.GC1896@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <73834c0c2b28ff7e6a7cb7542d1e453e@chrononomicon.com> <1345420086.20050506204229@wanadoo.fr> <20050507010013.GF3564@Alex.lan> <1047713602.20050507030814@wanadoo.fr> <20050507012802.GI3564@Alex.lan> <335856051.20050507044416@wanadoo.fr> <20050507110343.GA1647@Alex.lan> <1183634761.20050507133237@wanadoo.fr> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 23:41:00 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 01:32:37PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Alex de Kruijff writes: > > > So? As long as your system is protected by a password nobody has a legal > > defence. > > Unfortunately they do. For example, if they guess a user name and > password and it works, they can enter your system and claim that they > believed it was okay because nothing told them otherwise. You have to > specifically advise them that they must be authorized, otherwise if they > accidentally or deliberately enter the system through a technical > compromise, they can defend themselves on this basis. They can claim all they like, but that doesn't mean this hold up in cord. In the Netherlands one who enters a protected system deliberate and unlawful can get half a year of jail time and a fine of about two thosend euro's. The law doesn't say anyting about warning that need to be displayed. Lets say I've lost my key to my house and someone else found it. This still doesn't give that person the right to use it to gain access to my house. Of course if there where some technical compromise disabling the need for the username/password then they whould be home free. But this technical compromise could also effect the message. > > A admin that doesn't put up a warning like "breaking in is a criminal > > act" is not at fault legaly or otherwise. > > Not at fault, perhaps, but he does leave the door open to certain types > of compromises. Leaving the door open would mean not require a the user to enter there name and password. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 23:44:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB70F16A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:44:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF2E43DA2 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG500AIX8LR6J@smtp18.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:44:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j47Ni660010213; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:44:06 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j47Ni6Zp010212; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:44:06 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 01:44:06 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: To: Bart Silverstrim Message-id: <20050507234406.GD1896@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506132709.GA77760@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <1171865367.20050506204334@wanadoo.fr> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 23:44:16 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 11:16:02AM -0400, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > > On May 6, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > >Roland Smith writes: > > > >>On the page where you subscribe to a mailing list there is a link to > >>the > >>list archives. The existance to this link implies a public accessible > >>archive of the list. If you don't like that, don't subscribe. > > > >You cannot be sure that subscribers have read it unless you require > >them > >to take explicit action to confirm that they have read it. > > Part of me likes that attitude. You assume users are too stupid to use > computers even if they're trying to tackle FreeBSD. I would use the word lazy. Yes the law assumes users are lazy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 23:58:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7D416A4DD for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:58:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp17.wxs.nl (smtp17.wxs.nl [195.121.6.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2114B43DB1 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:58:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akruijff@dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp17.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IG500BBG9A16K@smtp17.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:58:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j47Nwf2R010310; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:58:41 +0200 (CEST envelope-from akruijff@dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j47Nwe6U010309; Sun, 08 May 2005 01:58:40 +0200 (CEST envelope-from akruijff@dds.nl) Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 01:58:40 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20050507105616.44F124BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-id: <20050507235840.GF1896@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050507105616.44F124BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to akruijff@dds.nl using -f cc: Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is --- WRONG --- with my network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 23:58:51 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 05:56:16AM -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > Hello Alex (and Jan)! > > > It could be that type slave files need to go in the subdirectory slave > > and type master files need to go in the subdirectory master. > > named doesn't give me any errors. > As I previously stated, my setup has been running flawlessly for months. Read the manual and run it with debug information. > > Check you /var/log/messages for errors about this. > > That what I find strange too. > /var/log/messages doesn't contain anything but the snort initialization! > And /var/named/var/log is totally empty. > > Here is my security run though. Maybe PF is denying something by default? No. A firewall can stop DNS request from passing though, but it doesn't stop named from running. > Even though I removed it from rc.conf at one time, and problems still persisted, > there might have been something evil lurking in the back. I've had this problem > with IPFW, where I'd have to compile an option into my kernel for it not to > block everything. I think you just have configuration problem. -- Alex