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(mjeays2551@rogers.com@72.139.51.96 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2005 00:17:32 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <1130763624.672.5.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> References: <1130763624.672.5.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1131236251.688.5.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 19:17:31 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: DMA errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:17:34 -0000 On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 08:00, Mike Jeays wrote: > On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 02:11, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Mike Jeays [mailto:Mike.Jeays@rogers.com] > > >Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:04 PM > > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >Subject: RE: DMA errors > > > > > > > > >On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 19:48, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> Try a different disk drive. > > >> > > >> What motherboard is in use here? > > >> > > >> Ted > > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > > >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mike Jeays > > >> >Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 4:28 PM > > >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >> >Subject: DMA errors > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >I have a 40GB Maxtor D740X-6L disk, and have been unable to > > >install 5.4 > > >> >or 6.0 on it. I get errors: > > >> > > > >> >ad0: FAILURE WRITE_DMA STATUS=51 error=84 (IRC, > > >> >ABORTED) LBA=.. > > >> > > > >> >as soon as I try to commmit the changes in sysinstall. > > >> > > > >> >I have checked that the IDE cable is the 80-wire type, and cleaned up > > >> >the connections and so on. > > >> > > > >> >I tried installing Ubuntu on this disk, and everything went > > >perfectly. > > >> >(Those guys have done a really great job, by the way). > > >> > > > >> >Is there some configuration trick I have missed? > > >> > > > >> >_______________________________________________ > > >> >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >> >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > >> >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > > >> >-- > > >> >No virus found in this incoming message. > > >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >> >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: > > >> >10/28/2005 > > >> > > > > > > >It works on at least one other disk, a Western Digital 80GB. The > > >motherboard is as Asus P4S533. > > > > > > > Well I hate to be flippant, but there you have it, problem solved. > > > > I have been doing PC work professionally for over 10 years and > > unprofessionally for at least 10-15 years before that, and ever > > since the IDE interface was invented I've had to deal with > > incompatibilties between the controller and the hard disk. Back > > in the days that the IDE controller chip was on a paddle card I > > used to have a box of them and when running into a problem like > > your doing, I would swap the cards until I got a good combo. This > > was all ISA stuff of course. Once the PCI came out and they > > started putting the controller on motherboard, they only way around > > these problems is to play musical chairs with the disk drives. > > > > And all this was long before FreeBSD, let alone Linux, was even > > a gleam in someone's eye. > > > > Your 40GB Maxtor has some moronic timing incompatibility with the > > IDE chipset that the FreeBSD driver in 5.4/6.0 happens to tickle, > > there's nothing you can do about it. Use your 80GB disk for the > > FreeBSD system or go find some other brand of motherboard for your > > 40GB disk, and things will work fine. > > > > Ted > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Thanks for the advice, and that is probably what I will do. > > However, before I bought the 80GB disk, I used to run 4.6 on the Maxtor > 40GB, with no problems. Furthernore, this disk and MB will still run > Ubuntu and Fedora, so it seems that later FreeBSD releases are more > sensitive, or drive the hardware a bit harder. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks for the help - you seem to be correct, Ted. I bought a second Western Digital 80GB disk, and 5.4 installs on this with no problem. The case for the 40 GB Maxtor seems a little odd - it works fine with Ubuntu, the Redmond product, and Fedora Core 3. I even switched it to PIO-only mode, and then 5.4 can be installed - but, as expected, it is very slow - 25 seconds to load KPresenter, for example. Not too useful. It also worked with an earlier FreeBSD, version 4.7 and before. So does FreeBSD drives disks a bit harder than other OSes, and is it still "in spec"?