From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 20 00:13:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8382116A41F for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:13:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-4.paradise.net.nz (bm-4a.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118CA43D46 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb2-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.177]) by linda-4.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0IQ800KM58MDO7@linda-4.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-smp@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:13:25 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-29-89.dsl.clear.net.nz [218.101.29.89]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA3B158858E; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:13:25 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:13:23 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <20051119153629.a1do15u7sw0o4kwg@webmail.1command.com> To: Network Operations Center Message-id: <437FBFA3.7010402@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051106) References: <437ADCED.2030906@paradise.net.nz> <20051117021657.vgmrdp8ys0ogwg40@webmail.1command.com> <437CE8FF.7000509@paradise.net.nz> <437D7D1C.1090008@paradise.net.nz> <20051119153629.a1do15u7sw0o4kwg@webmail.1command.com> Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP kernel but no SMP detected on Tyan S2515 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:13:41 -0000 Network Operations Center wrote: > Hello, > Just for the sake of clarity, are you *now* able to run SMP on that board? > As the BIOS('s) go, Tyan has two that I am aware of. The most recent one > added > suppport UDMS(2) 66 and faster/ wider SCSI, among other things. It would > probably > be a good investment to re-locate your previous (un-working) BIOS back > into the > motherboard and flash it (up) to the newer version. Might fix what ails > it. Also > there is a project on SourceForge (recently updated and ruined - > SourceForge, that > is) > that allows you to edit/ enhance/ repair your BIOS. I've used it quite a > bit and > I have found it very useful. Yep - have an mptable, with 2 cpus detected. Relevant bits of dmesg: MPTable: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 . . . SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! With respect to the original BIOS - I'm pretty sure the one that refused to detect an mptable was deliberately altered by the vendor, so it's not a standard Tyan BIOS at all. Thanks for the tip about BIOS repair/reflash - there is no need right now - as the donor board is faulty/marginal (capacitors flaky). However, I have two boards in such a state (S2510 and S2515), and I am considering getting my local electronics business to see if they can replace all the capacitors on them. If they can (and the price is not prohibitive) then yes, I'll need to look at sorting the BIOS's out! Cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 20 01:17:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9164816A41F for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:17:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noc@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [216.177.243.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F352D43D45 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:17:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noc@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jAK1HGd3009826; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:17:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from noc@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jAK1HGYv009825; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:17:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from noc@1command.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.1command.com: www set sender to noc@1command.com using -f Received: from ns1.1command.com (ns1.1command.com [216.177.243.34]) by webmail.1command.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:17:16 -0800 Message-ID: <20051119171716.2qhue1cvks80kkwk@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:17:16 -0800 From: Network Operations Center To: Mark Kirkwood References: <437ADCED.2030906@paradise.net.nz> <20051117021657.vgmrdp8ys0ogwg40@webmail.1command.com> <437CE8FF.7000509@paradise.net.nz> <437D7D1C.1090008@paradise.net.nz> <20051119153629.a1do15u7sw0o4kwg@webmail.1command.com> <437FBFA3.7010402@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <437FBFA3.7010402@paradise.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) / FreeBSD-5.4 X-Originating-IP: 216.177.243.34 Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP kernel but no SMP detected on Tyan S2515 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:17:27 -0000 Hello, ... Quoting Mark Kirkwood : > Network Operations Center wrote: >> Hello, >> Just for the sake of clarity, are you *now* able to run SMP on that board? >> As the BIOS('s) go, Tyan has two that I am aware of. The most recent >> one added >> suppport UDMS(2) 66 and faster/ wider SCSI, among other things. It >> would probably >> be a good investment to re-locate your previous (un-working) BIOS >> back into the >> motherboard and flash it (up) to the newer version. Might fix what >> ails it. Also >> there is a project on SourceForge (recently updated and ruined - >> SourceForge, that >> is) >> that allows you to edit/ enhance/ repair your BIOS. I've used it >> quite a bit and >> I have found it very useful. > > Yep - have an mptable, with 2 cpus detected. Relevant bits of dmesg: > > > MPTable: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > . > . > . > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Excellent! > With respect to the original BIOS - I'm pretty sure the one that > refused to detect an mptable was deliberately altered by the vendor, > so it's not a standard Tyan BIOS at all. > > Thanks for the tip about BIOS repair/reflash - there is no need right > now - as the donor board is faulty/marginal (capacitors flaky). > However, I have two boards in such a state (S2510 and S2515), and I > am considering getting my local electronics business to see if they > can replace all the capacitors on them. If they can (and the price is > not prohibitive) then yes, I'll need to look at sorting the BIOS's > out! It's a piece of cake. It souldn't cost very much at all. I've done it for years. If you don't have a solder sucker, or any solder wick and want to do it yourself. You can simply crush the bad capacitors with a regular pair of pliers. Which will allow you to easily remove the "can" from the electrolytic caps. Then you'll be left with the two wires that you need to solder on the new ones. I know, it sounds a bit crude. But it will work like a champ. Just remember to carefully take note of their orientation *before* you remove them. They are DC and will immediately explode if connected backwards and power is applied - really. Best wishes. > > Cheers > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-smp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-smp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-smp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using the H.R. Communications Corp., Webmail Internet Messaging System. ---------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 20 18:24:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6980316A420; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:24:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rutger.bevaart@illian.net) Received: from darwin.illian.net (darwin.illian.net [80.69.74.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18EF43D45; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rutger.bevaart@illian.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.illian.net [127.0.0.1]) by darwin.illian.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E67B450EC; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:24:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from darwin.illian.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (darwin.illian.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 62399-09; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:24:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.5] (237192.xs4all.nl [194.109.237.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by darwin.illian.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945D1450C4; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:24:40 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rutger Bevaart Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:24:25 +0100 To: "Gino Ruopolo" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at illian.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP? X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:24:31 -0000 Strange indeed. On a 1750 with bge's: 475 mbufs in use 501/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/max) 0/3/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 1120 KBytes allocated to network 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 100 calls to protocol drain routines On a 2850 (hardware identical to an 1850): $ netstat -m 4294966848 mbufs in use 565/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/max) 0/67/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 1018 KBytes allocated to network 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 16449 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 589 calls to protocol drain routines Both experience the "auto reboot" feature. The mbufs on the 2850 look like a counter (signed/unsigned) bug, maybe even just in the printing. Other than that I'm having a hard time interpreting these results. Regards Rutger Bevaart On Nov 20, 2005, at 5:07 PM, Gino Ruopolo wrote: > > Hello Rutger, > > I red your post but I'm unable to reply on the list 'cause of some > firewall settings. > > I'm having the same problems with various Dell1850 and Fbsd 5.4 > > Last week I noticed the following: > > #netstat -m > 4294899289 mbufs in use !?!?!??!!? > 4294940375/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/max) !?!?!?!??! > 0/9/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) > 4123460 KBytes allocated to network > 0 requests for sfbufs denied > 0 requests for sfbufs delayed > 34 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile > 2533 calls to protocol drain routines > > Here is the output of the same command on a different server with > fxp0 ethernet driver, also FBSD 5.4 and doing the same work: > > #netstat -m > 194 mbufs in use > 171/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/max) > 0/4/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) > 390 KBytes allocated to network > 0 requests for sfbufs denied > 0 requests for sfbufs delayed > 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > So I've tried putting an old pci ethernet 10/100 using fxp driver > on a Dell1850 suffering the "self-reboot" problem. I'm getting 5 > days of uptime without a single reboot ... > > What about a problem with the em driver? > > Regards, > gino > > _________________________________________________________________ > Parla con i tuoi amici che hanno MSN Hotmail in tempo reale! E' > gratis. http://www.imagine-msn.com/messenger/default.aspx?locale=it-IT >