From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 6 20:26:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E44716A41F for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:26:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AD243D45 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:26:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D5F930534; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:26:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57649-10; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:26:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <436E6755.3010401@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:28:05 +0100 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Sokolov References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the elvandar.org maildomain Cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dead link X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: remko@FreeBSD.org List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:26:12 -0000 Alex Sokolov wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/ru/ru/releases/6.0R/announce.html > > output: > > /// > FreeBSD.org - Document not found > The file > > http://www.freebsd.org/ru/ru/releases/6.0R/announce.html > > does not exist at this server. You are coming from > /// Hi Alex, Thanks for the report; though please notice that the translation teams need to translate the pages first before it becomes available. I am pretty sure that the russian translation team reads along so they might see this and do something with your email :-) In the meantime the english version is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/announce.html Cheers, Remko -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 6 20:46:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24B216A41F for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:46:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anders@andersonline.dk) Received: from andersonline.dk (port260.ds1-vby.adsl.cybercity.dk [217.157.132.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114B343D45 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:46:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anders@andersonline.dk) Received: from [10.0.1.8] ([10.0.1.8]) by andersonline.dk with MailEnable ESMTP; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:46:36 +0100 Message-ID: <436E6B91.1020400@andersonline.dk> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:46:09 +0100 From: Anders Lund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050923 Thunderbird/1.0.7 Mnenhy/0.7.2.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Document not found - http://kde.freebsd.org/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:46:45 -0000 Hi I have modified the subject line to show the real problem. Here: http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html#event20051105:01 In the text, there is a reference to FreeBSD project page (http://kde.freebsd.org/). But it does not resolve kde.freebsd.org -- Anders Lund - anders@andersonline.dk Take back the web - www.mozilla.org/firefox From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 6 20:49:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6160C16A41F for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:49:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EA343D45 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:49:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EYrSJ-000Fv9-0q; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:49:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:49:34 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Anders Lund Message-ID: <20051106204934.GI94004@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Anders Lund , www@freebsd.org References: <436E6B91.1020400@andersonline.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GyRA7555PLgSTuth" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <436E6B91.1020400@andersonline.dk> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Document not found - http://kde.freebsd.org/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:49:36 -0000 --GyRA7555PLgSTuth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:46:09PM +0100, Anders Lund wrote: > Hi >=20 > I have modified the subject line to show the real problem. > Here: http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html#event20051105:01 > In the text, there is a reference to FreeBSD project page=20 > (http://kde.freebsd.org/). >=20 > But it does not resolve kde.freebsd.org Hi Anders, thanks for the report. This was fixed in CVS earlier today, it'll take a little time to hit the live site. Cheers, Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --GyRA7555PLgSTuth Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDbmxeocfcwTS3JF8RAmUKAJ4z3MNWcU1vT374sPJdVSlpCCC/JgCfSa6/ mCbuufz5H84MD2tUIOb9d7I= =JBYi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GyRA7555PLgSTuth-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 00:00:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C176A16A41F for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:00:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D21843D46 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:00:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA700Rmi051759 for ; 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Sun, 6 Nov 2005 23:51:37 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jA6NpbvT083874; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 23:51:37 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200511062351.jA6NpbvT083874@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 23:51:37 GMT From: Arno Schleich To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: www/88575: Firefox build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:00:29 -0000 >Number: 88575 >Category: www >Synopsis: Firefox build failure >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 07 00:00:26 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Arno Schleich >Release: 5.4 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD-Release5.4, i386 >Description: multiple compile error in "nsNegotiateAuthFactory.cpp" >How-To-Repeat: make install in www/firefox >Fix: none >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 00:06:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459F816A41F; 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Can the same fix that was done for 
 in revision 1.5 of global.css
be done for ?  This would fix the FreeBSD GNOME website rendering
problems under Epiphany and Galeon.  Thanks.

Joe

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From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG  Mon Nov  7 09:33:25 2005
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Hello,

still font size problems with mailing list pages i.e.

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=283816+0+archive/2005/freebsd-www/20051106.freebsd-www

firefox: Normal is really displayed very small (at least i need a
magnifying glass)

opera: acceptable

konqueror: Help, Text size menu disappears

All plattforms:

Is font-size: 1.0em not a recursive definition. I read it like this:

set size of font to average with of em for current size of font.

I would expect something like

font-size: 11pt or font-size 12pt.



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Current FreeBSD problem reports
Critical problems
Serious problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.       Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2003/04/18] www/51135   www         Problems with the mailing-lists search in
o [2004/03/06] www/63854   www         PR-web page loses text
o [2005/10/23] www/87864   www         manpage web frontend is missing new FreeB
o [2005/10/25] www/87993   www         2 docu hyperlinks doesn't contain content

4 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.       Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2002/03/07] www/35647   www         www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi
s [2002/05/24] www/38500   www         gnats web form is overenthusiastic about 
o [2004/01/24] www/61824   www         Misleading documentation on FreeBSD insta
o [2004/06/04] www/67554   www         man-cgi visual glitch on 3-word titles
o [2004/11/05] www/73549   www         Mail list archive navigation difficulty
o [2005/01/05] www/75830   www         ports.cgi used ports/INDEX from CVS
o [2005/08/27] www/85333   www         BSDTechTalk community with tutorials is n
o [2005/10/07] www/87025   www         Website inconsistency: missing platforms 
o [2005/10/09] www/87144   www         New site has "Submit Bug" link under "Sec
o [2005/10/09] www/87152   www         Missing Link
o [2005/10/09] www/87153   www         Missing Links in Table www/german
o [2005/10/27] www/88084   www         fortune not found in online man pages
o [2005/11/04] www/88503   www         Dead link in the online manpages for Free
o [2005/11/05] www/88514   www         Getting listed as a FreeBSD Publisher

14 problems total.


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On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 07:14:55PM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> Can the same fix that was done for 
 in revision 1.5 of global.css
> be done for ?  This would fix the FreeBSD GNOME website rendering
> problems under Epiphany and Galeon.  Thanks.
>

Done.

Marc

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>Number:         88635
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       inclusion to isp.html
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Nov 08 02:00:25 GMT 2005
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>Originator:     Dan Moses
>Release:        4.x ans 5.x
>Organization:
Integrity Host
>Environment:
We would like to become listed on your website under internet service providers. 
>Description:
Integrity Host provides shared hosting, Virtual Private Servers (VPS)and fully managed dedicated servers that run on multiple versions of FreeBSD.  cPanel and Fantastico are available and bandwidth allocation is generous.
>How-To-Repeat:
              
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I'll make this happen.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88635

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>Number:         88636
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       handbook instruction could shut down named
>Confidential:   no
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>From http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-dns.html

Arrange to have named start and chroot itself to the sandbox by adding the following to /etc/rc.conf:

named_enable="YES"
named_flags="-u bind -g bind -t /etc/namedb /etc/named.conf"

from "man named":
   -g     Run  the  server  in  the  foreground  and  force all logging to
              stderr.
    -c config-file
              Use  config-file  as  the  configuration  file  instead  of  the
              default, /etc/namedb/named.conf. To ensure  that  reloading  the
              configuration  file  continues  to  work  after  the  server has
              changed its working directory due to  to  a  possible  directory
              option in the configuration file, config-file should be an abso-
              lute pathname.


>How-To-Repeat:
	Use instructions from the handbook
>Fix:
the rc.conf entry should read:
named_enable="YES"
named_flags="-u bind -t /etc/namedb -c /etc/named.conf"

I've had to make several other changes to get named to run:

# mkdir /var/named/etc/namedb/var/run/named/
# chown -R bind /var/named/etc/namedb/var

diff named.conf*
11,12d10
< include "./rndc.key";
< 
14c12
<       directory       "/";
---
>       directory       "/etc/namedb";

I would also suggest that 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bind9.html
should be completely integrated into the previous page, as the majority of 
this page is simply duplication of the former page.


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Hello!

> Date:      Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:33:23 +0100
> From:      Fritz Heinrichmeyer 
>
> firefox: Normal is really displayed very small (at least i need a
> magnifying glass)

  Yes, the same in mozilla-1.7.12,2 under FreeBSD. Please, increase font
size, it's terrible that one should adjust minimum font size in every
browser just to be able to read FreeBSD mail archives!

  Also, please, restore different link colours (visited vs. non-visited)
in mail contents display. When I read a commit message with many modified
files I like to see which files I've inspected and which I haven't yet.


Sincerely, Dmitry
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On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:09:04PM +0200, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> >Date:      Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:33:23 +0100
> >From:      Fritz Heinrichmeyer 
> >
> >firefox: Normal is really displayed very small (at least i need a
> >magnifying glass)
> 
>  Yes, the same in mozilla-1.7.12,2 under FreeBSD. Please, increase font
> size, it's terrible that one should adjust minimum font size in every
> browser just to be able to read FreeBSD mail archives!
>

You can click on "Text Size: large" to get a proper display.  If you
encounter a small font size issue on FreeBSD.org, you will get the same
issue on many other sites as well, since we do not define (currently) a
font-size.  You may also want to check the dpi setting of your X11 server.

>  Also, please, restore different link colours (visited vs. non-visited)
> in mail contents display. When I read a commit message with many modified
> files I like to see which files I've inspected and which I haven't yet.
> 

Agree, I think this is an important thing to re-implement.

Marc

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Marc Fonvieille  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:09:04PM +0200, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote:

> > >Date:      Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:33:23 +0100
> > >From:      Fritz Heinrichmeyer
> > >
> > >
> > >firefox: Normal is really displayed very small (at least i need a
> > >magnifying glass)
> >=20
> >  Yes, the same in mozilla-1.7.12,2 under FreeBSD. Please, increase
> > font size, it's terrible that one should adjust minimum font size
> > in every browser just to be able to read FreeBSD mail archives!
> >
>=20
> You can click on "Text Size: large" to get a proper display.  If you
> encounter a small font size issue on FreeBSD.org, you will get the
> same issue on many other sites as well, since we do not define
> (currently) a font-size.

In  which
gets imported by 
the font-size is defined as 31% smaller than the user likes it:

body {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  font-family: verdana, sans-serif;
  font-size: 69%;
  color: #000;
  background: #fff url("../images/hdr_fill.png") repeat-x;=20
}

BTW clicking "Text Size: large" doesn't work,
unless you enable JavaScript.

Fabian
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   From an article on=20 SoftwareCEO.com - "Burn-on-demand" for small
   developers.
   [1]h= ttp://www.softwareceo.com/index_tip_4.php =20
   =20
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   that's= =20 no =20
   longer supported, but you get an occasional request for=20 it. =20
   =20
   In any case, you've got software to distribute, but you don't want
   the=20 hassle =20
   of shipping CDs. And you don't have the spare bandwidth to start=20
   offering =20
   downloads. =20
   =20
   Just sign up with On-Disk.com and set your own price for your
   software.=20 Then =20
   direct any customers to the On-Disk.com website, and the company
   will=20 take =20
   care of all the messy details of collecting money, burning CDs, and=20
   shipping =20
   them around the=20 world. =20
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   Megs of software on CD for a base price of only $3.99 plus 10
   percent=20 of =20
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   you=20 get =20
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   There's a complete price chart on their=20 website. =20
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   run= =20 of =20
   discs, and no set-up charge to start an account. That sounds like a=20
   square =20
   deal to=20 us. =20
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   The new site is a spin-off of Karlie Robinson's web development
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References

   1. 3D"http://www.softwareceo.com/index_tip_4.php"
   2. 3D"http://www.lulu.com/"

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On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:44:32PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:
> >=20
> > You can click on "Text Size: large" to get a proper display.  If you
> > encounter a small font size issue on FreeBSD.org, you will get the
> > same issue on many other sites as well, since we do not define
> > (currently) a font-size.
>=20
> In  which
> gets imported by 
> the font-size is defined as 31% smaller than the user likes it:
>=20
> body {
>   margin: 0;
>   padding: 0;
>   font-family: verdana, sans-serif;
>   font-size: 69%;
>   color: #000;
>   background: #fff url("../images/hdr_fill.png") repeat-x;=20
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[...]

My fault, You're right, I was still thinking about  and

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>Number:         88706
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Nov 09 06:10:10 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     User &
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
MungGo
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD pmy.pmy.lv 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed Jul 27 03:57:49 KST 2005 root@pmy.pmy.lv:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386


	
>Description:
	SkyTemplate is a LGPL-ed fast template engine for PHP.
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:

diff -urN old_skytemplate/Makefile skytemplate/Makefile
--- old_skytemplate/Makefile	Wed Nov  9 14:46:20 2005
+++ skytemplate/Makefile	Tue Sep 20 13:23:59 2005
@@ -1,15 +1,15 @@
 # New ports collection makefile for:	skytemplate
-# Date created:		28 Jul 2005
+# Date created:		20 Sep 2005
 # Whom:			Mun-Kyo Seo 
 #
-# $FreeBSD: ports/www/skytemplate/Makefile,v 1.1 2005/09/15 23:40:03 pav Exp $
+# $FreeBSD$
 
 PORTNAME=	skytemplate
-PORTVERSION=	1.3.1
+PORTVERSION=	1.4.0
 CATEGORIES=	www
 MASTER_SITES=	http://daddy.withsky.net/SkyTemplate/download/ \
 		http://mirror.pmy.lv/SkyTemplate/download/
-DISTNAME=	SkyTemplate.v131
+DISTNAME=	SkyTemplate.v140
 
 MAINTAINER=	munggo@gmail.com
 COMMENT=	Yet another PHP compiling template engine
@@ -20,8 +20,6 @@
 WANT_PHP_WEB=	yes
 NO_WRKSUBDIR=	yes
 NO_BUILD=	yes
-
-SUB_FILES=	pkg-message
 
 do-install:
 	${MKDIR} ${DATADIR}
diff -urN old_skytemplate/distinfo skytemplate/distinfo
--- old_skytemplate/distinfo	Wed Nov  9 14:46:20 2005
+++ skytemplate/distinfo	Tue Sep 20 13:21:34 2005
@@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
-MD5 (SkyTemplate.v131.tar.gz) = 0c9b9fc92ac5ef6f1c9fcc2046864579
-SIZE (SkyTemplate.v130p2.tgz) = 21470
+MD5 (SkyTemplate.v140.tar.gz) = e5ba29db4bd2f1940c280a244ca8d351
+SIZE (SkyTemplate.v140.tar.gz) = 22775
diff -urN old_skytemplate/files/pkg-message.in skytemplate/files/pkg-message.in
--- old_skytemplate/files/pkg-message.in	Wed Nov  9 14:46:20 2005
+++ skytemplate/files/pkg-message.in	Thu Jan  1 09:00:00 1970
@@ -1,8 +0,0 @@
-****************************************************************
-
-To use SkyTemplate you have to add the correct include path into
-your %%LOCALBASE%%/etc/php.ini configuration file, like:
-
-include_path = ".:%%PREFIX%%/share/skytemplate"
-
-****************************************************************
diff -urN old_skytemplate/pkg-message skytemplate/pkg-message
--- old_skytemplate/pkg-message	Thu Jan  1 09:00:00 1970
+++ skytemplate/pkg-message	Tue Sep 20 13:20:04 2005
@@ -0,0 +1,8 @@
+****************************************************************
+
+To use SkyTemplate you have to add the correct include path into
+your ${LOCALBASE}/etc/php.ini configuration file, like:
+
+include_path = ".:${PREFIX}/share/skytemplate"
+
+****************************************************************
diff -urN old_skytemplate/pkg-plist skytemplate/pkg-plist
--- old_skytemplate/pkg-plist	Wed Nov  9 14:46:20 2005
+++ skytemplate/pkg-plist	Tue Sep 20 13:29:33 2005
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@
 %%DATADIR%%/SkyTpl/plugin.pre.BearTemplateSyntax.php
 %%DATADIR%%/SkyTpl/plugin.pre.TagComment.php
 %%DATADIR%%/SkyTpl/setup.ini.Master.php
+%%DATADIR%%/SkyTpl/setup.ini.SafeMode.php
 %%DATADIR%%/class.SkyTemplate.php
 %%DATADIR%%/class.SkyTemplate_withDaddy.php
 @dirrm %%DATADIR%%/SkyTpl
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
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Old Synopsis: 
New Synopsis: update port: www/skytempate

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-www->freebsd-ports-bugs
Responsible-Changed-By: linimon
Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Nov 9 06:28:36 GMT 2005
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Make this a 'ports' PR.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88706

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>Number:         88710
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       Site update
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Nov 09 09:10:15 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marko Milenovic
>Release:        FreeBSD 6.0
>Organization:
BSD Serbia
>Environment:
>Description:
Part of FreeBSD site regarding usergroups needs updating. The part:

Yugoslavia BSD Users Group

    The Yugoslavia BSD Users Group provides an open forum for all things BSD-related in the Serbian language. To join the mailing list, send an email to majordomo@bsd.org.yu with subscribe bsdyu in the body of the message. Located in Yugoslavia.

is not valid any more.
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:
Put: 

Serbian  BSD Users Group

Serbian BSD Users Group provides an open forum and portal for all things BSD-related in the Serbian language. Located in Serbia (Belgrade). 

Site address: http://www.bsd-srbija.org/
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On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 02:08:09PM +0000, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> blackend    2005-11-09 14:08:09 UTC
> 
>   FreeBSD doc repository
> 
>   Modified files:
>     en/layout/css        global.css 
>   Log:
>   Some  and 
 font-size tweaks to match previous
>   change.
>   

I need feedback regarding font-size, what you guys think about the "new"
size?
(You'll have to wait for a new website build of course...)

Marc

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On Wednesday 09 November 2005 15:14, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 02:08:09PM +0000, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> > blackend    2005-11-09 14:08:09 UTC
> >
> >   FreeBSD doc repository
> >
> >   Modified files:
> >     en/layout/css        global.css
> >   Log:
> >   Some  and 
 font-size tweaks to match previous
> >   change.
>
> I need feedback regarding font-size, what you guys think about the "new"
> size?
> (You'll have to wait for a new website build of course...)

"I'm loving it"[tm] ... what is online already (rev1.7) looks nice, small w=
as=20
way too tiny for me before.  Thanks.

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On 2005-11-09 15:14, Marc Fonvieille  wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 02:08:09PM +0000, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
>> blackend    2005-11-09 14:08:09 UTC
>>
>>   FreeBSD doc repository
>>
>>   Modified files:
>>     en/layout/css        global.css
>>   Log:
>>   Some  and 
 font-size tweaks to match previous
>>   change.
>
> I need feedback regarding font-size, what you guys think about the
> "new" size?

I'm happy with it.  Very happy.



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The following reply was made to PR www/88710; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Matt Olander 
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Subject: Re: www/88710: Site update
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:07:45 -0800

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 Hello,
 
 This patch should update the www tree to reflect the proposed change.
 Is there an issue updating the entryid? I took a look and I didn't see 
 it referred to anywhere else in the tree.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Matt
 
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 Index: share/sgml/usergroups.xml
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/matto/cvs/www_cvs/www/share/sgml/usergroups.xml,v
 retrieving revision 1.17
 diff -u -r1.17 usergroups.xml
 --- share/sgml/usergroups.xml	25 Oct 2005 20:28:13 -0000	1.17
 +++ share/sgml/usergroups.xml	9 Nov 2005 19:05:26 -0000
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 -  
 -    Yugoslavia BSD Users Group
 -    http://www.bsd.org.yu/
 -    The Yugoslavia BSD Users Group provides an open forum
 -      for all things BSD-related in the Serbian language.  To join the
 -      mailing list, send an email to majordomo@bsd.org.yu with
 -      subscribe bsdyu in the body of the message. Located in
 -      Yugoslavia.
 +  
 +    Serbian BSD Users Group
 +    http://www.bsd-srbija.org
 +    Serbian BSD Users Group provides an open forum and 
 +      portal for all things BSD-related in the Serbian language. Located 
 +      in Serbia (Belgrade). 
      
    
  
 
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On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 08:32:50PM +0100, Alex Dupre wrote:
> Joel Dahl wrote:
> >Everything is too big and ugly.  We're back at the pre-redesign state.
> 
> I prefer the previous version, too. Now the normal size text is too big 
> and some single-lines are splitted into two rows. I tried with firefox 
> (default installation) on a 1280x1024 and 1152x864 19" display.
> 

Ok, I have questions for persons victim of the "too big" issue:

What's your resolution?
What's your dpi setting (xdpyinfo | grep resolution)?
What's your font settings in your browser?
What's your browser?
Do you have the same issue when displaying this page:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/video-playback.html
?

Marc

PS: I can revert the last change, however we should be able to find (I
hope) a solution that would please everyone.  For the moment we have
people that find the fonts too big and people that find the fonts too
small... :)
And I'm not talking about the page width problem with large resolutions.

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>Number:         88747
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       Update link to Murray's FreeBSD vs Linux vs Windows flyer
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Nov 09 20:50:16 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Matt Olander
>Release:        FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:


System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  3 09:36:13 UTC 2005
    root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC



>Description:


This flyer has been updated to compare to win2k instead of win nt. The link should
reflect this change.


>How-To-Repeat:


Visit http://www.freebsd.org/advocacy/


>Fix:


--- fbsd_vs_nt_2000.www.diff begins here ---
Index: en/advocacy/index.sgml
===================================================================
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+++ en/advocacy/index.sgml	9 Nov 2005 20:55:31 -0000
@@ -75,7 +75,7 @@
           volunteer editors.
 
         
  • FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows NT
+          name="freebsdvslinuxvsnt">FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows 2000
           is a comparison between the three operating systems which includes
           reliability, performance, Y2K issues, support, cost of ownership,
           and more.
    • 
--- fbsd_vs_nt_2000.www.diff ends here ---



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Patch committted. Thanks!

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88747

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>Number:         88756
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       Add web hosting company to ISP page
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Nov 09 22:40:15 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Matt Olander
>Release:        FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
iXsystems 
>Environment:


System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  3 09:36:13 UTC 2005
    root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC



>Description:


Add Host Department, a FreeBSD-based web hosting company, to the ISP page under Commercial Vendors.


>How-To-Repeat:


http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html


>Fix:


--- hostdepartment_isp.www.diff begins here ---
Index: en/commercial/isp.xml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/matto/cvs/www_cvs/www/en/commercial/isp.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.34
diff -u -r1.34 isp.xml
--- en/commercial/isp.xml	8 Nov 2005 10:04:51 -0000	1.34
+++ en/commercial/isp.xml	9 Nov 2005 22:48:29 -0000
@@ -378,4 +378,14 @@
       Linux systems.
         
       
+
+  
+    Host Department
+    http://www.hostdepartment.com/
+    
+      Host Department provides FreeBSD-based web hosting, reseller hosting, 
+      domain name registration, and free web hosting services for personal, 
+      small-medium enterprise businesses, government, and also non-profit 
+      organizations.
+  
 
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>Number:         88762
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       OMS Name Change
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Nov 10 01:00:32 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Matt Olander
>Release:        FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
iXsystems 
>Environment:


System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  3 09:36:13 UTC 2005
    root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC



>Description:


We've changed our name to iXsystems


>How-To-Repeat:


N/A


>Fix:


--- omsnamechange.www.diff begins here ---
Index: en/commercial/hardware.xml
===================================================================
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retrieving revision 1.12
diff -u -r1.12 hardware.xml
--- en/commercial/hardware.xml	25 Oct 2005 19:23:15 -0000	1.12
+++ en/commercial/hardware.xml	10 Nov 2005 01:14:47 -0000
@@ -429,23 +429,18 @@
     
   
 
-  
-    Offmyserver
-    http://www.offmyserver.com/
-    
-      Offmyserver offers state-of-the-art Internet Server Systems, Internet
-      Appliance Platforms, RAID solutions, Multi-boot Workstations, LAN/WAN
-      products, and peripherals at competitive prices. We'll help you
-      find the right system hardware - configure, price, build, AND test it
-      with BSD operating systems. If that's not enough, we'll even
-      bend sheet metal to suit your identity. That's what you get when
-      the company that sells you the complete system is also the one that
-      custom builds it for you. We use only the best quality components and
-      do the required testing in advance - knowing that you are going to
-      run your mission-critical applications on our servers. We are
-      confident that you will appreciate our approach - give us an
-      opportunity to serve you! Send us an email at info@offmyserver.com.
+  
+    iXsystems
+    http://www.iXsystems.com/
+    
+      iXsystems (formerly OffMyServer) provides FreeBSD and Linux-based 
+      Internet infrastructure-grade rackmount servers, network appliances, 
+      enterprise blade servers, and storage products to a global market.  
+      We use only the best quality components and do the required testing 
+      in advance - knowing that you are going to run your mission-critical 
+      applications on our servers. We are confident that you will appreciate 
+      our approach - give us an opportunity to serve you! Send us an email 
+      at info@iXsystems.com.
     
   
 
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Patch commited, thanks.


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Take this pr.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88762

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Hi,

I tried to change current logo.png to Anton's new one.  It's simple
change.  Comments?

http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/


Next, I'll prepare a page for this logo including vector data
(PostScript preferred?).


-- 
Jun Kuriyama  // IMG SRC, Inc.
              // FreeBSD Project

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Patch committed with some minor changes, thanks.


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Set me as responsible of this pr. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88756

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On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 15:14 +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 02:08:09PM +0000, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> > blackend    2005-11-09 14:08:09 UTC
> >=20
> >   FreeBSD doc repository
> >=20
> >   Modified files:
> >     en/layout/css        global.css=20
> >   Log:
> >   Some  and 
     font-size tweaks to match previous
> >   change.
> >  =20
>=20
> I need feedback regarding font-size, what you guys think about the "new"
> size?
> (You'll have to wait for a new website build of course...)

Doesn't look too bad in Epiphany.  It's a little bigger than before this
commit, but no where near as bad as the original.

Joe

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On 2005-11-09 13:30, Joe Marcus Clarke  wrote:
>On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 15:14 +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
>>On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 02:08:09PM +0000, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
>>> blackend    2005-11-09 14:08:09 UTC
>>>
>>>   FreeBSD doc repository
>>>
>>>   Modified files:
>>>     en/layout/css        global.css
>>>   Log:
>>>   Some  and 
     font-size tweaks to match previous
>>>   change.
>>
>> I need feedback regarding font-size, what you guys think about the
>> "new" size?  (You'll have to wait for a new website build of
>> course...)
>
> Doesn't look too bad in Epiphany.  It's a little bigger than before
> this commit, but no where near as bad as the original.

After this change, the browser should use whatever size the user
has selected in the preferences of the browser, so it's very
likely to look better in other browsers too.  For instance, it
does look nicer in Firefox/FreeBSD here.


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On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 01:30:09PM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 15:14 +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 02:08:09PM +0000, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> > > blackend    2005-11-09 14:08:09 UTC
> > >=20
> > >   FreeBSD doc repository
> > >=20
> > >   Modified files:
> > >     en/layout/css        global.css=20
> > >   Log:
> > >   Some  and 
     font-size tweaks to match previous
> > >   change.
> > >  =20
> >=20
> > I need feedback regarding font-size, what you guys think about the "new"
> > size?
> > (You'll have to wait for a new website build of course...)
>=20
> Doesn't look too bad in Epiphany.  It's a little bigger than before this
> commit, but no where near as bad as the original.

On my systems there are still a number of rendering problems
(overlapping text, graphics and other page elements).

  http://obsecurity.dyndns.org/snapshot1.png

Last week I reported worse problems on another machine that has a high
resolution display (2048*something), which don't seem to be any better
now.

Kris

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Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> Ok, I have questions for persons victim of the "too big" issue:
> 
> What's your resolution?

1280x1024 on a 19" LCD panel (but I have th exact rendering on a 
1152x864 19" CRT monitor).

> What's your dpi setting (xdpyinfo | grep resolution)?

(--) RADEON(0): Display dimensions: (380, 300) mm
(--) RADEON(0): DPI set to (85, 86)


> What's your font settings in your browser?

Never changed, default Firefox installation, default text size. (I think 
it should be serif/sans-serif 16px and monospace 12px).

> What's your browser?

Firefox.

> Do you have the same issue when displaying this page:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/video-playback.html
> ?

I'd say no, but it's a different structured page, it's difficult to 
compare. In the documentation pages the font size is even bigger, but 
it's ok for that purpose, there aren't fixed boxes or single-lines that 
are splitted into two rows. If I read the doc online I like the 
readability, not the style. The web site, instead, should presents the 
info in a more compact and nice way.

--
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On 2005-11-09 21:24, Marc Fonvieille  wrote:
> PS: I can revert the last change, however we should be able to find (I
> hope) a solution that would please everyone.  For the moment we have
> people that find the fonts too big and people that find the fonts too
> small... :)
> And I'm not talking about the page width problem with large resolutions.

The problems with big font sizes are well known and a result of the
fixed-width used for some of the layout items.  There were discussions
about making the width of the start page less dependent on particular
font sizes (i.e. 11 pixels or something close).  I wonder, how are
things moving in that area?

- Giorgos


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Jun Kuriyama p=ED=B9e v =E8t 10. 11. 2005 v 14:05 +0900:
> Hi,
>=20
> I tried to change current logo.png to Anton's new one.  It's simple
> change.  Comments?
>=20
> http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/

Slick!

> Next, I'll prepare a page for this logo including vector data
> (PostScript preferred?).

AI, EPS, SVG formats would be cool to have. Also add hi-res PNG
rendering of it.

--=20
Pav Lucistnik 
              

But soft, what light through yonder window breaks? It is the East,
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At Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:49:43 +0100,
Pav Lucistnik wrote:
> > Next, I'll prepare a page for this logo including vector data
> > (PostScript preferred?).
> 
> AI, EPS, SVG formats would be cool to have. Also add hi-res PNG
> rendering of it.

I'm planning to import to our CVS tree.  Should I add all of formats?
Or use one of them as original master file?

-- 
Jun Kuriyama  // IMG SRC, Inc.
              // FreeBSD Project

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Jun Kuriyama p=ED=B9e v =E8t 10. 11. 2005 v 17:54 +0900:
> At Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:49:43 +0100,
> Pav Lucistnik wrote:
> > > Next, I'll prepare a page for this logo including vector data
> > > (PostScript preferred?).
> >=20
> > AI, EPS, SVG formats would be cool to have. Also add hi-res PNG
> > rendering of it.
>=20
> I'm planning to import to our CVS tree.  Should I add all of formats?
> Or use one of them as original master file?

All of them should be available on the website for download, to make
life easier for publishers and users. IMHO.

--=20
Pav Lucistnik 
              

arch> I went grocery shopping, made a pot of chilli, played ey,
then ate some chilli

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 05:54:01PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote:
> At Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:49:43 +0100,
> Pav Lucistnik wrote:
> > > Next, I'll prepare a page for this logo including vector data
> > > (PostScript preferred?).
> >=20
> > AI, EPS, SVG formats would be cool to have. Also add hi-res PNG
> > rendering of it.
>=20
> I'm planning to import to our CVS tree.  Should I add all of formats?
> Or use one of them as original master file?

Add them all.

Ceri
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At Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:05:32 +0900,
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> I tried to change current logo.png to Anton's new one.  It's simple
> change.  Comments?
> 
> http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/

Thank you for your comments.  I just updated.

 - Align logo image to left by cropping original image (from Emily)
 - Add new page skeleton about this logo.
   http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/logo.html

I requested Anton to make vector data for above page (including
favicon.ico).  Please wait.


-- 
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              // FreeBSD Project

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 10:15:14PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote:
> At Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:05:32 +0900,
> kuriyama wrote:
> > I tried to change current logo.png to Anton's new one.  It's simple
> > change.  Comments?
> >=20
> > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/
>=20
> Thank you for your comments.  I just updated.
>=20
>  - Align logo image to left by cropping original image (from Emily)
>  - Add new page skeleton about this logo.
>    http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/logo.html

I really like those wallpapers.  It's probably worth either adding a
referral to this page to art.html or incorporating the whole page there
instead; I agree that the logo should have it's own section at least.
Also, the copyright page should be updated if it needs it.

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Hello Jun,

Thursday, November 10, 2005, 2:15:14 PM, you wrote:

> At Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:05:32 +0900,
> kuriyama wrote:
>> I tried to change current logo.png to Anton's new one.  It's simple
>> change.  Comments?
>>=20
>> http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/

> Thank you for your comments.  I just updated.

>  - Align logo image to left by cropping original image (from Emily)
>  - Add new page skeleton about this logo.
>    http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/logo.html

I like the work you are doing, but as simon@ just noticed on IRC - why
there is freeBSD and not FreeBSD? it looks like it wants to "free the
BSD" :) should be rewritten to proper spelling of FreeBSD

> I requested Anton to make vector data for above page (including
> favicon.ico).  Please wait.



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On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 02:48:07PM +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote:
[...]
> > Thank you for your comments.  I just updated.
> 
> >  - Align logo image to left by cropping original image (from Emily)
> >  - Add new page skeleton about this logo.
> >    http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kuriyama/www/logo.html
> 
> I like the work you are doing, but as simon@ just noticed on IRC - why
> there is freeBSD and not FreeBSD? it looks like it wants to "free the
> BSD" :) should be rewritten to proper spelling of FreeBSD
> 

In fact they are "old" files before the "election panel" asked for
various changes.  So don't worry, I'm sure Anton will update them to
match the current logo.

Marc


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>Number:         88809
>Category:       www
>Synopsis:       Commercial vendor listings are sorted on in character value format
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-www
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Nov 10 19:40:14 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Devon H. O'Dell
>Release:        FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT amd64
>Organization:
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>Environment:
System: FreeBSD skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #23: Mon Nov 7 11:24:03 PST 2005 dodell@skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SKIK amd64


	
>Description:
	Commercial vendor listings are sorted in the order of the ASCII
	character code, which is how xsl:sort works. This is unfair to
	vendors across the board whose names start with a lowercase
	letter, and are therefore sorted towards the bottom. This patch
	fixes the issue by using the translate() function to return an
	all lowercase value for the contents of the name tag.
>How-To-Repeat:
	Visit any of the commercial vendor pages at
	http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/
>Fix:

--- xsl_sort_insensitive.diff begins here ---
Index: entries.xsl
===================================================================
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diff -u -r1.5 entries.xsl
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+  
   
 
   
 
 	
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As the commercial gallery maintainer, grab this PR and fix it.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88809

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Hello, I have a question:
Can I run freebsd on these machines: http://www.genesippc.com/products.php

Thank you for your answer, Marek Klobaska.

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 07:18:32AM +0100, AZ PO??TA?E - v?e kolem po??ta?? a internetu - Marek Klob?ska wrote:
> Hello, I have a question:
> Can I run freebsd on these machines: http://www.genesippc.com/products.php
> 
> Thank you for your answer, Marek Klobaska.

Hi AZ, please post to the PPC list or questions@FreeBSD.org or
somewhere similar.  This list is about the website.

	  - Murray

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Sadly we cannot add you to the CD vendor list, not
in the handbook and not in the commercial gallery.
(I explained this in private email communiation).

So close the PR accordingly.


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I closed this PR so make me responsible for it as well.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88514

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 08:01:05AM +0100, Alex Dupre wrote:
> Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> >Ok, I have questions for persons victim of the "too big" issue:
> >
> >What's your resolution?
> 
> 1280x1024 on a 19" LCD panel (but I have th exact rendering on a 
> 1152x864 19" CRT monitor).
> 
> >What's your dpi setting (xdpyinfo | grep resolution)?
> 
> (--) RADEON(0): Display dimensions: (380, 300) mm
> (--) RADEON(0): DPI set to (85, 86)
> 
> 
> >What's your font settings in your browser?
> 
> Never changed, default Firefox installation, default text size. (I think 
> it should be serif/sans-serif 16px and monospace 12px).
> 
> >What's your browser?
> 
> Firefox.
>

I really wonder about the dpi setting under mozilla based browsers.
Could you try Preferences>Fonts&Colors>Display resolution>Other ?
It seems that users with large screen/resolution are victims of the
big font issue.

Marc

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Marc Fonvieille wrote:
>>>What's your resolution?
>>
>>1280x1024 on a 19" LCD panel (but I have th exact rendering on a 
>>1152x864 19" CRT monitor).
>>
>>
>>>What's your dpi setting (xdpyinfo | grep resolution)?
>>
>>(--) RADEON(0): Display dimensions: (380, 300) mm
>>(--) RADEON(0): DPI set to (85, 86)

For the records, on the CRT I have these values (ops, it's a 17"):

(--) ATI(0): Display dimensions: (300, 230) mm
(--) ATI(0): DPI set to (97, 95)


> I really wonder about the dpi setting under mozilla based browsers.
> Could you try Preferences>Fonts&Colors>Display resolution>Other ?
> It seems that users with large screen/resolution are victims of the
> big font issue.

Currently I'm using System settings, what sort of tests would you like I 
try?

--
Alex Dupre

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 11:13:09AM +0100, Alex Dupre wrote:
> Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> >>>What's your resolution?
> >>
> >>1280x1024 on a 19" LCD panel (but I have th exact rendering on a 
> >>1152x864 19" CRT monitor).
> >>
> >>
> >>>What's your dpi setting (xdpyinfo | grep resolution)?
> >>
> >>(--) RADEON(0): Display dimensions: (380, 300) mm
> >>(--) RADEON(0): DPI set to (85, 86)
> 
> For the records, on the CRT I have these values (ops, it's a 17"):
> 
> (--) ATI(0): Display dimensions: (300, 230) mm
> (--) ATI(0): DPI set to (97, 95)
> 
> 
> >I really wonder about the dpi setting under mozilla based browsers.
> >Could you try Preferences>Fonts&Colors>Display resolution>Other ?
> >It seems that users with large screen/resolution are victims of the
> >big font issue.
> 
> Currently I'm using System settings, what sort of tests would you like I 
> try?
> 

If you do Preferences>Fonts&Colors>Display resolution>Other in Firefox
you get a rule on the screen that allow you to set a "correct" (?) DPI
setting.  Actually you should try to force the DPI setting to 96 in
Firefox and see the difference.  Well I reverted the changes I did on
global.css but it may be possible to see the difference on other web
sites.

Marc

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Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> If you do Preferences>Fonts&Colors>Display resolution>Other in Firefox
> you get a rule on the screen that allow you to set a "correct" (?) DPI
> setting.  Actually you should try to force the DPI setting to 96 in
> Firefox and see the difference.  Well I reverted the changes I did on
> global.css but it may be possible to see the difference on other web
> sites.

I see the difference directly in the preference menus. Forcing the 
correct DPI setting has the same effect that using System default, so no 
changes at all. Forcing to an incorrect value (like 72) shrinked my 
fonts in an horrible way.

--
Alex Dupre

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:03:02PM +0100, Alex Dupre wrote:
> Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> >If you do Preferences>Fonts&Colors>Display resolution>Other in Firefox
> >you get a rule on the screen that allow you to set a "correct" (?) DPI
> >setting.  Actually you should try to force the DPI setting to 96 in
> >Firefox and see the difference.  Well I reverted the changes I did on
> >global.css but it may be possible to see the difference on other web
> >sites.
> 
> I see the difference directly in the preference menus. Forcing the 
> correct DPI setting has the same effect that using System default, so no 
> changes at all.
[...]

Then I'm lost cause I cannot see how a font-size=small (it was the CSS
seeting before I revert my commit) could appear "big" on the screen :((
especially if you used default Firefox settings.

Marc

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Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> Then I'm lost cause I cannot see how a font-size=small (it was the CSS
> seeting before I revert my commit) could appear "big" on the screen :((
> especially if you used default Firefox settings.

It's not "big per se'", it's big compared to the website layout. If I 
look at http://httpd.apache.org/ the font size is ok (large layout, long 
text). If I put the same font into the FreeBSD layout (fixed boxes, 
small phrases) it will look huge. Similarly the font at 
http://www.postgresql.org/ is ok, but it will look small on the Apache 
website. This is the same reason why the fonts on documentation pages 
are ok for docs and not for the website, and viceversa.

--
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> Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> >Then I'm lost cause I cannot see how a font-size=small (it was the CSS
> >seeting before I revert my commit) could appear "big" on the screen :((
> >especially if you used default Firefox settings.
> 
> It's not "big per se'", it's big compared to the website layout. If I 
> look at http://httpd.apache.org/ the font size is ok (large layout, long 
> text). If I put the same font into the FreeBSD layout (fixed boxes, 
> small phrases) it will look huge. Similarly the font at 
> http://www.postgresql.org/ is ok, but it will look small on the Apache 
> website. This is the same reason why the fonts on documentation pages 
> are ok for docs and not for the website, and viceversa.
>

ahhh *this* is different; from my point of view what you are describing
is more subjective than a real rendering issue.  I mean with default
CSS, things like  and 
     just looked completly
different (bigger) than the rest if one uses a minimum size of 12 or 10
for the fonts.  It's what I tried to fix.  Regarding the overall size, I
choosed an "average" solution, i.e.  not too small not too big, but it's
not possible to please every browser, screen resolution, etc, it's why I
gave up.
Anyway, when I see http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/gnome.png it's
difficult for me to not think there's something weird with the font
definition.

Marc

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Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> ahhh *this* is different; from my point of view what you are describing
> is more subjective than a real rendering issue.

It may be subjective, but it becomes less subjective when a single-line 
spans on two rows (for example language selection) or words exceed the 
boxes' borders (for example security advisories): this means that the 
font is too big for this layout. *Personally* I prefer this size, but 
for me it's ok even a little bigger, *if* the text will correctly fit in 
the layout.

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 04:53:23PM +0100, Alex Dupre wrote:
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> >is more subjective than a real rendering issue.
> 
> It may be subjective, but it becomes less subjective when a single-line 
> spans on two rows (for example language selection) or words exceed the 
> boxes' borders (for example security advisories): this means that the 
> font is too big for this layout.

This example is not subjective, I agree this is a real problem too.

> *Personally* I prefer this size, but 
> for me it's ok even a little bigger, *if* the text will correctly fit in 
> the layout.

I agree.  My word "subjective" was to make a difference between abnormal
rendering bugs like the ones we (you, Kris, me, etc.) described and the
fact the overall page font size may seem small or big according to user
taste.

Marc

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The following reply was made to PR www/87025; it has been noted by GNATS.

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 This patch adds the missing platforms on the left-hand menu of 
 platforms/index.html and changes the order of i386 and ia64 under the 
 Table of Contents, since 3 comes before a in traditional UNIX 
 alphabetical sorting.
 
 -- 
 Matt Olander
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      • 
  		
    • amd64
      • 
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      • 
  		
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      • 
  		
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      • 
  		
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    • FreeBSD/alpha Project
      • 
      
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      • 
      
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I will work on this.

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: regarding freebsd.org and konqueror
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:05:08 -0500
From: Osvaldo 
To: wosch@FreeBSD.org

Hi:
I'm using konqueror most of the times and I was surprised to found out
that www.freebsd.org doesn't show properly on it. There's a little menu
on the left which its last link (Support) appears over the first link of
the other menu (Documentation, which is that menu's first link)
I use Ubuntu 5.04  with Konqueror 3.43 (still there's no FreeBSD port
for my iBook ;)
This is a known issue or is it just me?
Firefox renders the site with no problems.
Regards
Osvaldo

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Wolfram Schneider  wrote:

> I'm using konqueror most of the times and I was surprised to found out
> that www.freebsd.org doesn't show properly on it. There's a little
> menu on the left which its last link (Support) appears over the first
> link of the other menu (Documentation, which is that menu's first
> link) I use Ubuntu 5.04  with Konqueror 3.43 (still there's no
> FreeBSD port for my iBook ;)
> This is a known issue or is it just me?

It's a known issue. The site uses a fixed design and makes
some presumptions about the user's font settings.

In some cases the presumptions differ from reality,
the result is a messed up layout.

Emily Boyd is already looking into it:=20
http://freebsd.rambler.ru/bsdmail/freebsd-www_2005/msg01158.html

> Firefox renders the site with no problems.

On your system with your font settings, not in general.

Fabian
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Hi,

Is it possible to remove my email address from:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=16818+0+archive/2003/ 
freebsd-www/20031109.freebsd-www

and

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=65357+0+archive/2003/ 
freebsd-www/20030622.freebsd-www

Thanx!!

Mischa


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Mischa Peters wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to remove my email address from:
> 
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=16818+0+archive/2003/ 
> freebsd-www/20031109.freebsd-www
> 
> and
> 
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=65357+0+archive/2003/ 
> freebsd-www/20030622.freebsd-www
> 
> Thanx!!
> 
> Mischa
> 

Hi Mischa,

In my opinion, No. The lists are public and everyone submitting
something to the lists know that the results are published on
the internet. You could have known that before you were posting
to the lists.

Cheers,
Remko

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On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 10:04:22PM +0100, Mischa Peters wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to remove my email address from:
> 
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=16818+0+archive/2003/ 
> freebsd-www/20031109.freebsd-www
> 
> and
> 
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=65357+0+archive/2003/ 
> freebsd-www/20030622.freebsd-www
>

Hello

In posting this request you spreaded another time your email address.
This happens when you post to public lists.  We do not use to answer to
such removal requests since it would be impossible to remove each copy
of your mails in the list mirrors around the world (these mirrors are
not under FreeBSD.org "power")...

Marc