From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 17:33:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7977B16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:33:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DACC43D62 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:33:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zslist@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1125877rnf for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=RhSJM8IEcedxlCHQpsVkiuAndipmBZFjAtWjePApvMuQtyz4s7K6uoAdT7UPFsZC4Lc8Y7fHkBkSkMiGNg13IXtzAUJPskZaLNmZmuQ55LxK7YjPlSv7mPJPuwRqwg6d/X/HFnK1hsg6CK1vAcuBWpUWjC65YGULkJIE7Y13eFI= Received: by 10.39.3.79 with SMTP id f79mr2624325rni; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.26 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:33:21 -0800 From: benchmark To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: X11 config/performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: benchmark List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:33:22 -0000 I've been trying to get X11 config/perform the last couple of days. Basic info: Thinkpad t40, freeBSD 5.3 stable I know that my video card (ATI Redeon 250) can do 1280x1024 (as I did that with my linux setup), but with BSD, i can only do 1024x768. Is there a version of a driver that i need to upgrade? Web browsering is very sluggish with Konqueror -- though ping replies quickly. Is this a browser problem or an X problem? thanks From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 18:21:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE1216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:21:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (69-30-77-85.dq1sn.easystreet.com [69.30.77.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DF843D2D for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:21:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3OIKrLc039233; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3OIKrO9039232; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: leguin.anholt.net: anholt set sender to eta@lclark.edu using -f From: Eric Anholt To: benchmark In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:20:53 -0700 Message-Id: <1114366853.965.2.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 config/performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:21:21 -0000 On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 09:33 -0800, benchmark wrote: > I've been trying to get X11 config/perform the last couple of days. > > Basic info: Thinkpad t40, freeBSD 5.3 stable > > I know that my video card (ATI Redeon 250) can do 1280x1024 (as I did > that with my linux setup), but with BSD, i can only do 1024x768. Is > there a version of a driver that i need to upgrade? > > Web browsering is very sluggish with Konqueror -- though ping replies > quickly. Is this a browser problem or an X problem? An Xorg.0.log would be necessary to say anything about your mode selection problem. Generally little can be said about "things seem slow" unless there's something really out of line in the log. -- Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 18:28:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A28816A4CE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:28:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D7143D49; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:28:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3OIStPB005104 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:28:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j3OISslg005103; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:28:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200504241828.j3OISslg005103@aldan.algebra.com> To: x11@FreeBSD.org, amd64@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:28:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w y+z3/UR{6SCQ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:28:56 -0000 Hello! I'll, probably, give up on NVidia soon. The free "nv" driver does not support two monitors on the same card, and the proprietory "nvidia" driver does not support amd64. My attempts to get the Linux/amd64 driver to work have so far yielded nothing but solid hangs of the system. Adding an older PCI (VGA) card to drive the second monitor was disappointing -- the picture is of noticably poorer quality than over DVI. Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X dual-DVI card out there, that offers decent 1600x1200 picture on FreeBSD/amd64? 3D is not a requirement... Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 18:39:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEAE16A4CE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:39:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7983343D3F; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:39:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.21] (rat.samsco.home [192.168.254.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3OIeK0F015018; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:40:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <426BE772.9080301@samsco.org> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:37:38 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050321 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <200504241828.j3OISslg005103@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <200504241828.j3OISslg005103@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:39:23 -0000 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello! > > I'll, probably, give up on NVidia soon. The free "nv" driver does not > support two monitors on the same card, and the proprietory "nvidia" > driver does not support amd64. My attempts to get the Linux/amd64 driver > to work have so far yielded nothing but solid hangs of the system. > An amd64 version of the nvidia driver is in the works, but the amd64 kernel needs some features before it cam become a reality. I know that people are working on those features, but I know no idea what their timeline is. > Adding an older PCI (VGA) card to drive the second monitor was > disappointing -- the picture is of noticably poorer quality than over > DVI. > > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X I assume you mean PCI-E here, not PCI-X. > dual-DVI card out there, that offers > decent 1600x1200 picture on FreeBSD/amd64? 3D is not a requirement... I have an ATI X600 Pro card driving a 1600x1200 LCD DVI display, and it looks __nice__. It only has one DVI output, though. I imagine that ATI sells versions that have dual DVI. Scott From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 18:39:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2285616A4CE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:39:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (www1.multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3964943D5D; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from vader ([212.135.219.179]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.1.R) with ESMTP id md50001357973.msg; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:35:26 +0100 Message-ID: <004601c548fc$d5c6c820$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Mikhail Teterin" , , References: <200504241828.j3OISslg005103@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:38:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:35:26 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.179 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:35:28 +0100 Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:39:49 -0000 Matrox cards may be an option. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mikhail Teterin" > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X dual-DVI card out there, that offers > decent 1600x1200 picture on FreeBSD/amd64? 3D is not a requirement... ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 18:40:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EC916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:40:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC6743D53 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:40:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zslist@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so953257rne for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:40:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ijLyscXIAhXAsFft9cNhe3DdzXAYiL4BaElTz5GMHCp13UhUqRSa8VHpLHNoK5zQoDOkeqkthvymr+HHl6PvHoU7JNGugwgIeHYWWP/oweZ6EL7rNTP63FP3r0p5+/jQX7P8HiwrRRyRLWH367sjnvdMCTT3O+0CWAQlRz+ytEg= Received: by 10.38.11.1 with SMTP id 1mr5549143rnk; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.26 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:40:23 -0800 From: benchmark To: Eric Anholt In-Reply-To: <1114366853.965.2.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_484_17863574.1114368023639" References: <1114366853.965.2.camel@leguin> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 config/performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: benchmark List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:40:25 -0000 ------=_Part_484_17863574.1114368023639 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline here is the log file and my config. I tried to set my screen size to 1280x1024, it didnt' work. On 4/24/05, Eric Anholt wrote: > On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 09:33 -0800, benchmark wrote: > > I've been trying to get X11 config/perform the last couple of days. > >=20 > > Basic info: Thinkpad t40, freeBSD 5.3 stable > >=20 > > I know that my video card (ATI Redeon 250) can do 1280x1024 (as I did > > that with my linux setup), but with BSD, i can only do 1024x768. Is > > there a version of a driver that i need to upgrade? > >=20 > > Web browsering is very sluggish with Konqueror -- though ping replies > > quickly. Is this a browser problem or an X problem? >=20 > An Xorg.0.log would be necessary to say anything about your mode > selection problem. Generally little can be said about "things seem > slow" unless there's something really out of line in the log. >=20 > --=20 > Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu > http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org > ------=_Part_484_17863574.1114368023639 Content-Type: text/plain; name=xorg.conf; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xorg.conf" Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "speedo" Load "type1" Load "xtt" Load "ddc" Load "xaa" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" HorizSync 30-107 VertRefresh 48-120 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "ForcePCIMode" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize" # #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "PanelOff" # [] #Option "DDCMode" # [] #Option "MonitorLayout" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] #Option "OverlayOnCRTC2" # [] #Option "CloneMode" # [] #Option "CloneHSync" # [] #Option "CloneVRefresh" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection ------=_Part_484_17863574.1114368023639-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 18:46:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4190616A4CE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (69-30-77-85.dq1sn.easystreet.com [69.30.77.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E583E43D48; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3OIjEqG039353; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3OIjDDO039352; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: leguin.anholt.net: anholt set sender to eta@lclark.edu using -f From: Eric Anholt To: Steven Hartland In-Reply-To: <004601c548fc$d5c6c820$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> References: <200504241828.j3OISslg005103@aldan.algebra.com> <004601c548fc$d5c6c820$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:45:12 -0700 Message-Id: <1114368312.965.7.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:01 -0000 On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 19:38 +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: > Matrox cards may be an option. > > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mikhail Teterin" > > > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X dual-DVI card out there, that offers > > decent 1600x1200 picture on FreeBSD/amd64? 3D is not a requirement... As we haven't seen updates to the open-source MGA driver in ages, and the Matrox binary driver won't work, Matrox in general would probably not work. That leaves ATI. Keith Packard has tried dual-DVI on ATI, but had issues with whatever radeon he was using (don't remember) getting the second DVI to work, and has fallen back to DVI and VGA. I'm not sure what it would take to fix it (I've avoided mode setting stuff so far), but I would imagine someone interested could do so. -- Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 18:48:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8342916A4CE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:48:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99A343D45; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:48:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@corbulon.video-collage.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3OImfE8005167 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:48:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@corbulon.video-collage.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (mi@localhost.video-collage.com [127.0.0.1])j3OImZVM088747 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:48:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@corbulon.video-collage.com) Received: (from mi@localhost)j3OImZeR088746; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:48:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200504241848.j3OImZeR088746@corbulon.video-collage.com> To: scottl@samsco.org (Scott Long) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:48:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <426BE772.9080301@samsco.org> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040615, clamav-milter version 0.73a on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:48:45 -0000 > > I'll, probably, give up on NVidia soon. The free "nv" driver does not > > support two monitors on the same card, and the proprietory "nvidia" > > driver does not support amd64. My attempts to get the Linux/amd64 driver > > to work have so far yielded nothing but solid hangs of the system. > An amd64 version of the nvidia driver is in the works, but the amd64 > kernel needs some features before it cam become a reality. I know > that people are working on those features, but I know no idea what their > timeline is. You are, probably, talking about Page Attribute Table (PAT), right? According to the Linux' driver's NVIDIA_Changelog, PAT is only used on Linux since last fall -- earlier releases did not need it, it seems. > > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X > > I assume you mean PCI-E here, not PCI-X. I mean PCI-X. My IWill DK8X has no PCI-E slots. > > dual-DVI card out there, that offers > > decent 1600x1200 picture on FreeBSD/amd64? 3D is not a requirement... > > I have an ATI X600 Pro card driving a 1600x1200 LCD DVI display, and > it looks __nice__. It only has one DVI output, though. I imagine that > ATI sells versions that have dual DVI. And Xorg/XFree86 had no problems? Since I'm buying a new one anyway, I'd rather have something supported by our radeon drm-module, but such things may not have dual DVIs... Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 21:02:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BC616A4CE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:02:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freebee.digiware.nl (dsl439.iae.nl [212.61.63.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D8A43D46; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Received: from [212.61.27.71] (dual.digiware.nl [212.61.27.71]) by freebee.digiware.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3OL1jO1011168; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:01:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Message-ID: <426C0939.5060901@withagen.nl> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:01:45 +0200 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <200504241828.j3OISslg005103@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <200504241828.j3OISslg005103@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:02:08 -0000 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello! > > I'll, probably, give up on NVidia soon. The free "nv" driver does not > support two monitors on the same card, and the proprietory "nvidia" > driver does not support amd64. My attempts to get the Linux/amd64 driver > to work have so far yielded nothing but solid hangs of the system. > > Adding an older PCI (VGA) card to drive the second monitor was > disappointing -- the picture is of noticably poorer quality than over > DVI. > > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X dual-DVI card out there, that offers > decent 1600x1200 picture on FreeBSD/amd64? 3D is not a requirement... I'm a happy camper with an ATI card with VGA and DVI output: none3@pci2:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x200217ee chip=0x41501002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.' device = 'Radeon 9600 Series (V350)' class = display subclass = VGA none4@pci2:0:1: class=0x038000 card=0x200317ee chip=0x41701002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.' device = 'Radeon 9600 Series - Secondary' class = display it gives met 2*1280*1024. But I'm shure you can get it to do 1600x1200 as well. I'm just running 1280*1024 'cause the 17" LCD are native at that resolution. Xorg has some nice tricks to play multiple screens in a simple way. --WjW From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 24 21:50:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8228916A4CE; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:50:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DA643D3F; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:50:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@corbulon.video-collage.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3OLodqV005633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:50:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@corbulon.video-collage.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (mi@localhost.video-collage.com [127.0.0.1])j3OLoXV8091389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:50:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@corbulon.video-collage.com) Received: (from mi@localhost)j3OLoWQt091388; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:50:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200504242150.j3OLoWQt091388@corbulon.video-collage.com> To: wjw@withagen.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:50:32 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <426C0939.5060901@withagen.nl> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040615, clamav-milter version 0.73a on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:50:42 -0000 > > Adding an older PCI (VGA) card to drive the second monitor was > > disappointing -- the picture is of noticably poorer quality than over > > DVI. > > > > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X dual-DVI card out there, that offers > > decent 1600x1200 picture on FreeBSD/amd64? 3D is not a requirement... > > I'm a happy camper with an ATI card with VGA and DVI output: > > none3@pci2:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x200217ee chip=0x41501002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.' > device = 'Radeon 9600 Series (V350)' > class = display > subclass = VGA > none4@pci2:0:1: class=0x038000 card=0x200317ee chip=0x41701002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.' > device = 'Radeon 9600 Series - Secondary' > class = display > > it gives met 2*1280*1024. But I'm shure you can get it to do 1600x1200 > as well. I'm just running 1280*1024 'cause the 17" LCD are native at > that resolution. Xorg has some nice tricks to play multiple screens in > a simple way. I guess, I'll try using an ATI's DVI combined with one of the DVI outputs on my NVidia. I wonder, if there is a chance of getting GATOS on FreeBSD/amd64. -mi From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 11:02:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D0816A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:02:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183DB43D1D for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:02:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3PB2Qms061602 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:02:26 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3PB2QJc061596 for freebsd-x11@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:02:26 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:02:26 GMT Message-Id: <200504251102.j3PB2QJc061596@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:02:27 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/11/20] ports/32121 x11 XFree86-4-Server: xf86cfg 4.1.0 writes ba o [2004/08/11] ports/70317 x11 xvideo problems using XFree86-4.4.0 o [2004/11/22] ports/74265 x11 XFree86 Version 4.4.0 with KDE 3.1 freeze f [2005/03/07] ports/78527 x11 wrong x11-toolkits/Xaw3D version o [2005/03/25] ports/79231 x11 XORG / FBSD5.4 stuck at 640x480 on HP XE2 5 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [2003/11/15] ports/59297 x11 RADEON 7500 Warning message f [2004/05/11] ports/66511 x11 xdm xlogin*background color issue o [2004/09/14] ports/71724 x11 x11/XFree86-4-clients: luit does not reco o [2004/10/22] ports/73009 x11 5.3-RC1 ports refer to XF86Config - shoul o [2004/11/09] ports/73743 x11 XOrg/XFree xauth add/startx problem o [2005/03/03] ports/78345 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: server loada o [2005/03/03] ports/78346 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: os-support/I o [2005/03/03] ports/78348 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: mouse signed o [2005/03/03] ports/78352 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: common/compi o [2005/03/03] ports/78353 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: bus/Imakefil o [2005/03/03] ports/78354 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: os-support/b o [2005/03/03] ports/78355 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: Imake.cf mod o [2005/03/03] ports/78356 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: FreeBSD.cf d o [2005/03/03] ports/78358 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: pkg-plist pa o [2005/03/03] ports/78359 x11 [PATCH] xorg-server/powerpc: port Makefil 15 problems total. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 17:03:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF24B16A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:03:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF2643D2D; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:03:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3QH3NKv072370; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:03:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3QH3IUJ072246; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:03:18 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20050426170318.GC45067@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <426BE772.9080301@samsco.org> <200504241848.j3OImZeR088746@corbulon.video-collage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504241848.j3OImZeR088746@corbulon.video-collage.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: Scott Long cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: Mikhail Teterin cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:03:50 -0000 On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 02:48:35PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X > > > > I assume you mean PCI-E here, not PCI-X. > > I mean PCI-X. My IWill DK8X has no PCI-E slots. I use an AGP Matrox G450 in my DK8X. Also any Radeon R200 card should give you X.org native dual-head support on AMD64: Radeon 8500, FireGL 8800, etc... -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 17:13:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34B616A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:13:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2288C43D39; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:13:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3QHD3Tn016853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:13:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11])j3QHCvIG059262 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:12:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3QHCsAE025874; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:12:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j3QHCssa025873; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:12:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mteterin.us.murex.com: mteterin set sender to mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:12:53 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <426BE772.9080301@samsco.org> <200504241848.j3OImZeR088746@corbulon.video-collage.com> <20050426170318.GC45067@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050426170318.GC45067@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504261312.54178.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040615, clamav-milter version 0.73a on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 cc: Scott Long cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:13:06 -0000 > On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 02:48:35PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X > > > > > > I assume you mean PCI-E here, not PCI-X. > > > > I mean PCI-X. My IWill DK8X has no PCI-E slots. > I use an AGP Matrox G450 in my DK8X. > Also any Radeon R200 card should give you X.org native dual-head support > on AMD64: Radeon 8500, FireGL 8800, etc... But none of these are dual-DVI, are they? Thanks, -mi From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 17:40:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B0116A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:40:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266A343D5A; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:40:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3QHejIF001952; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3QHeitw001951; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:40:44 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20050426174044.GA1881@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <426BE772.9080301@samsco.org> <200504241848.j3OImZeR088746@corbulon.video-collage.com> <20050426170318.GC45067@dragon.NUXI.org> <200504261312.54178.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504261312.54178.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:40:55 -0000 On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:12:53PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 02:48:35PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > > > Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X > > > > > > > > I assume you mean PCI-E here, not PCI-X. > > > > > > I mean PCI-X. My IWill DK8X has no PCI-E slots. > > > I use an AGP Matrox G450 in my DK8X. > > Also any Radeon R200 card should give you X.org native dual-head support > > on AMD64: Radeon 8500, FireGL 8800, etc... > > But none of these are dual-DVI, are they? Thanks, Nope. But this is the best you can do AFAIK. Every DVI-cablable monitor I've seen can also handle analog VGA15. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 18:03:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC0E16A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:03:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C847A43D31; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:03:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3QI88bd011868; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:08:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <426E81A8.2040702@samsco.org> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:00:08 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <426BE772.9080301@samsco.org> <200504241848.j3OImZeR088746@corbulon.video-collage.com> <20050426170318.GC45067@dragon.NUXI.org> <200504261312.54178.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <20050426174044.GA1881@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050426174044.GA1881@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: Mikhail Teterin cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:03:44 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:12:53PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > >>>On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 02:48:35PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >>> >>>>>>Is there a decent AGP or PCI-X >>>>> >>>>>I assume you mean PCI-E here, not PCI-X. >>>> >>>>I mean PCI-X. My IWill DK8X has no PCI-E slots. >> >>>I use an AGP Matrox G450 in my DK8X. >>>Also any Radeon R200 card should give you X.org native dual-head support >>>on AMD64: Radeon 8500, FireGL 8800, etc... >> >>But none of these are dual-DVI, are they? Thanks, > > > Nope. But this is the best you can do AFAIK. Every DVI-cablable monitor > I've seen can also handle analog VGA15. > Once you use a DVI monitor with a DVI video card, the blurriness of VGA15 becomes painfully apparent. Scott From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 18:10:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE51416A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:10:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6D943D41; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:10:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3QIAbYf017008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:10:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11])j3QIAVKf060387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:10:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3QIAS7k026112; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:10:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by mteterin.us.murex.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j3QIARGa026111; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:10:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mteterin.us.murex.com: mteterin set sender to mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com using -f From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: Scott Long Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:10:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <426BE772.9080301@samsco.org> <20050426174044.GA1881@dragon.NUXI.org> <426E81A8.2040702@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <426E81A8.2040702@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504261410.27870.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040615, clamav-milter version 0.73a on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org cc: obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:10:41 -0000 > > Nope. But this is the best you can do AFAIK. Every DVI-cablable monitor > > I've seen can also handle analog VGA15. > Once you use a DVI monitor with a DVI video card, the blurriness of > VGA15 becomes painfully apparent. But the DVI connector of a PCI card is Ok, actually. So PCI Radeon 9200 in addition to one of NVidia's DVI connectors is my solution for now -- until NVidia comes to its sences and releases a FreeBSD/amd64 driver. -mi From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 15:20:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E7116A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:20:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postman.atlantis.dp.ua (postman.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CA543D62 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:20:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from smtp.atlantis.dp.ua (smtp.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.46.231]) by postman.atlantis.dp.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3RFKogi004421 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:20:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:20:50 +0300 (EEST) From: Dmitry Pryanishnikov To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050427181911.H87106@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: XFree86 4.5.0 - when? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:20:59 -0000 Hello! I'm sorry if my question has already been answered. When one can expect an upgrade of XFree86 in ports to Release 4.5.0? Sincerely, Dmitry -- Atlantis ISP, System Administrator e-mail: dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua nic-hdl: LYNX-RIPE From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 01:51:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CA416A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:51:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817C043D45 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:51:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7CC1F585D; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22838-02-5; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:51:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300951F57EC; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAA95C0A; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:51:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:51:31 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050427181911.H87106@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> In-Reply-To: <20050427181911.H87106@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504280351.32462.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si cc: Dmitry Pryanishnikov Subject: Re: XFree86 4.5.0 - when? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:51:38 -0000 On Wednesday 27 of April 2005 17:20, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: > Hello! > > I'm sorry if my question has already been answered. When one can expect > an upgrade of XFree86 in ports to Release 4.5.0? > > Sincerely, Dmitry Hi, That won't be done before FreeBSD 5.4 is released. Until then, this is too intruding a commit to be made. The upgrade should also be tested on pointyhat so we can catch possible problems with it (and pointyhat is now busy with release related tests and builds). So until then, you can check the patchset here: http://www.ijs.si/~lesi/xfree/XF-45_6.diff and if you do, report any problems that you might encounter :) Dejan From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 05:48:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4F416A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:48:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B132F43D55 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:48:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C321F58C4; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:48:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 34615-01-7; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806371F58BB; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:48:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1315C0A; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:48:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:48:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050427181911.H87106@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <200504280351.32462.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <200504280351.32462.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504280748.19558.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si cc: Dmitry Pryanishnikov Subject: Re: XFree86 4.5.0 - when? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:48:24 -0000 On Thursday 28 of April 2005 03:51, Dejan Lesjak wrote: > On Wednesday 27 of April 2005 17:20, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I'm sorry if my question has already been answered. When one can expect > > an upgrade of XFree86 in ports to Release 4.5.0? > > > > Sincerely, Dmitry > > Hi, > > That won't be done before FreeBSD 5.4 is released. Until then, this is too > intruding a commit to be made. The upgrade should also be tested on > pointyhat so we can catch possible problems with it (and pointyhat is now > busy with release related tests and builds). > So until then, you can check the patchset here: > http://www.ijs.si/~lesi/xfree/XF-45_6.diff Erm, that should be http://www.ijs.si/~lesi/xfree/XF-45_7.diff From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 01:34:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250A316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:34:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AAD43D3F for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zombyfork@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1174553nzf for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:34:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bqwAvQqv+pOAMHkopflTJJ0NasdzwPrnwx0CPqkmkBnUPppKDUqCIPaZZhJ2116L/MZF49haw7Bdg5jtIPr89PUKudmyvcOalhZtAsKDGsdIXjvmflTcw0uJbvdDTRPAp2ijOPVZgzBSP1yje2B4bLf3LZ2DN9OD7bIU3HzLtdA= Received: by 10.36.3.12 with SMTP id 12mr137721nzc; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.75.15 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <346a80220504281834320a57d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:34:56 -0700 From: Coleman Kane To: Mikhail Teterin In-Reply-To: <200504261410.27870.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <426BE772.9080301@samsco.org> <20050426174044.GA1881@dragon.NUXI.org> <426E81A8.2040702@samsco.org> <200504261410.27870.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> cc: Scott Long cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which video card for FreeBSD/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cokane@cokane.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:34:57 -0000 On 4/26/05, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > Nope. But this is the best you can do AFAIK. Every DVI-cablable mon= itor > > > I've seen can also handle analog VGA15. >=20 > > Once you use a DVI monitor with a DVI video card, the blurriness of > > VGA15 becomes painfully apparent. >=20 > But the DVI connector of a PCI card is Ok, actually. So PCI Radeon 9200 i= n > addition to one of NVidia's DVI connectors is my solution for now -- unti= l > NVidia comes to its sences and releases a FreeBSD/amd64 driver. >=20 > -mi >=20 If you are willing to help out anholt@ and the r300.sourceforge.net guys and work with their driver a little bit, any R300 or R350 should work as well. I think some of these are dual-DVI (but I don't have one so not 100% sure). From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 30 19:35:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A1316A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:35:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E114E43D1D for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:35:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (dsl-084-056-231-081.arcor-ip.net [84.56.231.81]) by mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22FA139632 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:35:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3UJZq5q018378 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:35:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@kemoauc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3UJZqlg018377 for freebsd-x11@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:35:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: xterm stops output X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:35:58 -0000 FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE/alpha, xterm-201. Lately I suffer from the problem that xterm very sporadically appears to stop output, possibly until a key is pressed. This is not readily reproducible and overall very rare. It seems to happen comparatively often in trn. Half a screen is painted and then output just stops. I need to hit a key, usually ^R for repainting, to get a proper display. It has also happened for non-curses cases, such as the output of ifconfig. Never in vi. I have not payed too much attention yet, since it occurs only sporadically, I'm usually eager to continue with what I was doing, and it took me a while to realize that there really is an issue. In fact, I'm still not certain there is. If my memory serves correctly, this has started since I upgraded from xterm-200 to xterm-201. Is anybody else seeing unusual behavior from xterm? -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 30 19:43:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C7D16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:43:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from voodoo.oberon.net (voodoo.oberon.net [212.118.165.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A8543D1F for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:43:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krion@voodoo.oberon.net) Received: from krion by voodoo.oberon.net with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DRxrt-0004es-54; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:43:13 +0200 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:43:13 +0200 From: Kirill Ponomarew To: Christian Weisgerber Message-ID: <20050430194313.GC17052@voodoo.oberon.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-NCC-Regid: de.oberon X-NIC-HDL: KP869-RIPE Keywords: 579279786 cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xterm stops output X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:43:13 -0000 On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 07:35:51PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE/alpha, xterm-201. > > Lately I suffer from the problem that xterm very sporadically appears > to stop output, possibly until a key is pressed. This is not readily > reproducible and overall very rare. It seems to happen comparatively > often in trn. Half a screen is painted and then output just stops. > I need to hit a key, usually ^R for repainting, to get a proper > display. It has also happened for non-curses cases, such as the > output of ifconfig. Never in vi. > > I have not payed too much attention yet, since it occurs only > sporadically, I'm usually eager to continue with what I was doing, > and it took me a while to realize that there really is an issue. > In fact, I'm still not certain there is. > > If my memory serves correctly, this has started since I upgraded > from xterm-200 to xterm-201. > > Is anybody else seeing unusual behavior from xterm? Yup, it's known problem, will be fixed soon in oncoming 202 release. -Kirill