From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 1 02:54:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B9D16A400 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 02:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anonymous@borg.phpwebhosting.com) Received: from borg.phpwebhosting.com (borg.phpwebhosting.com [69.93.48.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04F6343D66 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 02:54:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anonymous@borg.phpwebhosting.com) Received: (qmail 16833 invoked by uid 99); 1 May 2006 00:44:33 -0000 Date: 1 May 2006 00:44:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20060501004433.16832.qmail@borg.phpwebhosting.com> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: Larry Shiller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Your May 2006 ShillerMath Tidbit X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ShillerMath List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 02:54:04 -0000 ShillerMath Tidbits: Biography Series #2 [parentzone.gif] Fermat and Wiles: A 330 year relationship A 220 page margin intertwined two lives... A Frenchman, lawyer, and "only" an amateur mathematician, Pierre de Fermat lived from 1601 to 1665 and gained a well-deserved reputation for original work in geometry and number theory. A surprising footnote is that he survived the plague in 1653. Another is that he found errors in the works of both Galileo and Descartes - for which the latter tried to destroy Fermat's reputation! Fermat's Last Theorem states that the equation x^n + y^n = z^n has no non-zero integer solutions for x, y and z when n > 2. Until 1994, it was also known as Fermat's Last Conjecture: Fermat wrote, in the margin of Bachet's translation of Diophantus's Arithmetica, "I have discovered a truly remarkable proof which this margin is not large enough to contain." Little did he realize it would take 340 years and a 220 page margin for others to discover! The British mathematician Andrew Wiles apparently proved Fermat's conjecture in June 1993. But close examination revealed that one piece of the proof - the proof of the Taniyama-Shimura conjecture - which required the bridging of two seemingly unrelated branches of mathematics, was not complete. The person who proved the Taniyama-Shimura conjecture would get the credit for proving Fermat's Last theorem. In November 1994 it was again Wiles who claimed to have a complete and correct proof, which has now been accepted. Born April 11, 1953, Sir Andrew John Wiles enjoys a distinguished career as a brilliant number theorist. He was educated at The Leys School Cambridge, graduated from the University of Oxford in 1974, and earned his Ph.D. at Clare College of the University of Cambridge in 1979. Sir Wiles is now a Professor and Chair of the Mathematics Department at Princeton University. In the future we will take a look at other great unsolved math mysteries. In the next ShillerMath Tidbit we debunk a common math learning myth. [funnybone.gif] Mathematics and the Arts... For those of you who love math and partake in such mundane matters as watching movies or TV, here is a short don't-miss titles list: Numb3rs. On this TV show in its 3rd season, David Krumholtz plays Charlie Eppes, TV's first major character who is a mathematician - and a pretty darn good one at that! Proof. Written by David Auburn, this play features mathematicians in three of the four main roles. Alas it attempts to prove more than just theorems but that's where things get interesting... Fermat's Last Tango. A musical by Joshua Rosenblum and Joanne Sydney Lessner with numbers (sorry!) like "AfterMath" and ""Math Widow" (golf, anyone?). The perfect follow-up to this month's tidbit. I hope you enjoyed this short math break. Sincerely, [lssig.jpg] Larry Shiller Publisher After months of creative and detailed work by our staff, ShillerMath now has a new web site, with free white papers, downloads, and diagnostic tests for ages 4-12. Please [1]visit and get your freebies today! Did you enjoy this Tidbit? Please tell your friends, family, and fellow parents, teachers, administrators, librarians, and local homeschool groups. Thank you for [2]spreading the word! _________________________________________________________________ What is ShillerMath? ShillerMath publishes research-based math curriculum, music, manipulatives, and worksheets for ages 4-12, with beautifully designed lessons, diagnostic tests with answer keys, catchy math songs, and Montessori-based manipulatives. No Montessori or math knowledge is required and there's zero lesson preparation - just read what's in quotes and you're good to go! Students using this approach consistently outperform their peers. Larry Shiller, ShillerMath founder and President, has a math degree from MIT. The ShillerMath curriculum includes authoritative materials and lessons used by thousands of Montessori schools and is the math curriculum of choice for public, private, and homeschooled students throughout the world. Plase visit the [3]ShillerMath site for all the details on this proven and amazingly effective product. If you no longer wish to receive ShillerMath emails please [4]click here to unsubscribe. ShillerMath never sells or rents emails: [5]http://www.shillermath.com/sm/privacy.php References 1. http://www.shillermath.com/sm/home.php?src=tidbit20060501&email=freebsd-chat@freebsd.org 2. http://www.shillermath.com/sm/home.php?src=tidbit20060501&em=freebsd-chat@freebsd.org&url=recommendnews.php 3. http://www.shillermath.com/sm/home.php?src=tidbit20060501&em=freebsd-chat@freebsd.org 4. http://www.shillermath.com/sm/unsubscribe.php?Unsubscribe=freebsd-chat@freebsd.org 5. http://www.shillermath.com/sm/home.php?src=tidbit20060501&em=freebsd-chat@freebsd.org&url=privacy.php From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 1 03:01:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE72A16A404 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 03:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: from evildomain.org (adsl-68-123-205-204.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net [68.123.205.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4771D43D45 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 03:01:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: by evildomain.org (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 9363022C; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:01:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on evildomain.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.1.99] (router.evildomain.org [192.168.1.1]) by evildomain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CC63D; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44557A1B.6060502@aaronholmes.net> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:01:47 -0700 From: Aaron Holmes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ShillerMath References: <20060501004433.16832.qmail@borg.phpwebhosting.com> In-Reply-To: <20060501004433.16832.qmail@borg.phpwebhosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Your May 2006 ShillerMath Tidbit X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 03:01:50 -0000 dumbass Larry Shiller wrote: > ShillerMath Tidbits: Biography Series #2 > > [parentzone.gif] > Fermat and Wiles: A 330 year relationship > > A 220 page margin intertwined two lives... > A Frenchman, lawyer, and "only" an amateur mathematician, Pierre de > Fermat lived from 1601 to 1665 and gained a well-deserved reputation > for original work in geometry and number theory. A surprising footnote > is that he survived the plague in 1653. Another is that he found > errors in the works of both Galileo and Descartes - for which the > latter tried to destroy Fermat's reputation! > Fermat's Last Theorem states that the equation x^n + y^n = z^n has no > non-zero integer solutions for x, y and z when n > 2. Until 1994, it > was also known as Fermat's Last Conjecture: Fermat wrote, in the > margin of Bachet's translation of Diophantus's Arithmetica, "I have > discovered a truly remarkable proof which this margin is not large > enough to contain." Little did he realize it would take 340 years and > a 220 page margin for others to discover! > The British mathematician Andrew Wiles apparently proved Fermat's > conjecture in June 1993. But close examination revealed that one piece > of the proof - the proof of the Taniyama-Shimura conjecture - which > required the bridging of two seemingly unrelated branches of > mathematics, was not complete. The person who proved the > Taniyama-Shimura conjecture would get the credit for proving Fermat's > Last theorem. In November 1994 it was again Wiles who claimed to have > a complete and correct proof, which has now been accepted. > Born April 11, 1953, Sir Andrew John Wiles enjoys a distinguished > career as a brilliant number theorist. He was educated at The Leys > School Cambridge, graduated from the University of Oxford in 1974, and > earned his Ph.D. at Clare College of the University of Cambridge in > 1979. Sir Wiles is now a Professor and Chair of the Mathematics > Department at Princeton University. > > In the future we will take a look at other great unsolved math > mysteries. In the next ShillerMath Tidbit we debunk a common math > learning myth. > [funnybone.gif] > > Mathematics and the Arts... > For those of you who love math and partake in such mundane matters as > watching movies or TV, here is a short don't-miss titles list: > > Numb3rs. On this TV show in its 3rd season, David Krumholtz plays > Charlie Eppes, TV's first major character who is a mathematician - and > a pretty darn good one at that! > > Proof. Written by David Auburn, this play features mathematicians in > three of the four main roles. Alas it attempts to prove more than just > theorems but that's where things get interesting... > > Fermat's Last Tango. A musical by Joshua Rosenblum and Joanne Sydney > Lessner with numbers (sorry!) like "AfterMath" and ""Math Widow" > (golf, anyone?). The perfect follow-up to this month's tidbit. > > I hope you enjoyed this short math break. > Sincerely, > [lssig.jpg] > Larry Shiller > Publisher > After months of creative and detailed work by our staff, ShillerMath > now has a new web site, with free white papers, downloads, and > diagnostic tests for ages 4-12. Please [1]visit and get your freebies > today! > > Did you enjoy this Tidbit? Please tell your friends, family, and > fellow parents, teachers, administrators, librarians, and local > homeschool groups. Thank you for [2]spreading the word! > _________________________________________________________________ > > What is ShillerMath? > ShillerMath publishes research-based math curriculum, music, > manipulatives, and worksheets for ages 4-12, with beautifully designed > lessons, diagnostic tests with answer keys, catchy math songs, and > Montessori-based manipulatives. No Montessori or math knowledge is > required and there's zero lesson preparation - just read what's in > quotes and you're good to go! Students using this approach > consistently outperform their peers. Larry Shiller, ShillerMath > founder and President, has a math degree from MIT. 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From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 4 05:01:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9B716A402 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 05:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd5mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F7E43D46 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 05:01:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.8]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IYQ00LBD5VV0RD0@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 22:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IYQ00J1Y5VVVAE0@pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 22:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from soralx.cydem.org ([24.87.27.3]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IYQ0032F5VU8O30@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 22:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 21:59:54 -0700 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <20060429105604.6cc82966@vixen42.vulpes> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-id: <200605032159.54532.soralx@cydem.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200604270217.43493.soralx@cydem.org> <200604272227.09721.soralx@cydem.org> <20060429105604.6cc82966@vixen42.vulpes> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Subject: Re: KMail to mbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 05:01:16 -0000 > > The complication is that the filthy KMail saves message flags in > > some 'index' files (instead of in message headers). All I want to > > do really is to convert these into any standard format, such as > > mbox (what's evil about it, BTW?) for use with some normal mail > > client (Sylpheed probably). > > Message flags? What do you mean by this? As in if it has been read or > not? yes, status flags like 'read', 'replied', 'important', etc > If that is the case, there is no actual method outside of > maildir for this. In maildir a message is new if it has is in the new > directory. Upon reading it should be moved to the cur directory. what about 'Status: ' and 'X-Status: ' in headers? > Mbox is fine till it starts getting large. It is easily corrupted. It > requires locking and the like. More than one program can not safely > access it. MH solves these a bit, but maildir fixes them completely. never had a problem with this; after all, I always use only single mail client at one time, so it seems that maildir won't be of any advantage in my case -- on the contrary, filling the FS with extra 10000 files won't do any good. [...] > You may not notice how nice maildir till you admin your first mail > server. This is especially true if you have dialup customers and are > using sendmail. If you are using webmail you are even more screwed > with mbox. thanx for the info, but I prefer Postfix ;) Timestamp: 0x44598856 [SorAlx] http://cydem.org.ua/ ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 6 22:57:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5386616A402 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 22:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4A543D45 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 22:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-225-24.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.225.24]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B762914DB84; Sat, 6 May 2006 15:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 17:58:38 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: soralx@cydem.org Message-ID: <20060506175838.6a3a8308@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <200605032159.54532.soralx@cydem.org> References: <200604270217.43493.soralx@cydem.org> <200604272227.09721.soralx@cydem.org> <20060429105604.6cc82966@vixen42.vulpes> <200605032159.54532.soralx@cydem.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.1.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KMail to mbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 22:57:57 -0000 On Wed, 03 May 2006 21:59:54 -0700 soralx@cydem.org wrote: > > > > The complication is that the filthy KMail saves message flags in > > > some 'index' files (instead of in message headers). All I want > > > to do really is to convert these into any standard format, such > > > as mbox (what's evil about it, BTW?) for use with some normal > > > mail client (Sylpheed probably). On a cool side not check out the maildir plugin for sylpheed-claws. Just got added recently and I have been really loving it. > > Message flags? What do you mean by this? As in if it has been > > read or not? > > yes, status flags like 'read', 'replied', 'important', etc > > > If that is the case, there is no actual method outside of > > maildir for this. In maildir a message is new if it has is in the > > new directory. Upon reading it should be moved to the cur > > directory. > > what about 'Status: ' and 'X-Status: ' in headers? Cool. Was not aware that those existed. > > Mbox is fine till it starts getting large. It is easily > > corrupted. It requires locking and the like. More than one > > program can not safely access it. MH solves these a bit, but > > maildir fixes them completely. > > never had a problem with this; after all, I always use only single > mail client at one time, so it seems that maildir won't be of any > advantage in my case -- on the contrary, filling the FS with extra > 10000 files won't do any good. Yeah, it does blow through more inodes, but for what I need I find it to be worth it. I tend to have atleast one open and then occasionally accessing it through squirrelmail. > [...] > > You may not notice how nice maildir till you admin your first mail > > server. This is especially true if you have dialup customers and > > are using sendmail. If you are using webmail you are even more > > screwed with mbox. > > thanx for the info, but I prefer Postfix ;) Cool. QMail here. ^_^ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 6 23:32:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E15F16A404 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 23:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0C343D45 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 23:32:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.212]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IYV00MQ9APE4SD0@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IYV001JWAPELGI0@pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from soralx.cydem.org ([24.87.27.3]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IYV005P5APEXU00@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 17:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 16:32:02 -0700 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <20060506175838.6a3a8308@vixen42.vulpes> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-id: <200605061632.02264.soralx@cydem.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200604270217.43493.soralx@cydem.org> <200605032159.54532.soralx@cydem.org> <20060506175838.6a3a8308@vixen42.vulpes> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Subject: Re: KMail to mbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 23:32:55 -0000 > On a cool side not check out the maildir plugin for sylpheed-claws. > Just got added recently and I have been really loving it. roger so, maildir is better than MH? > > what about 'Status: ' and 'X-Status: ' in headers? > Cool. Was not aware that those existed. just like the developers of KMail then, I guess :/ Timestamp: 0x445D305E [SorAlx] http://cydem.org.ua/ ridin' VN1500-B2