From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 00:00:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01ABA16A412 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FEA43D46 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:00:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9M00pau029751 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:00:51 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9M00pOL029750; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:00:51 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:00:51 GMT Message-Id: <200610220000.k9M00pOL029750@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/53732: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:00:52 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/53732; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/53732: commit references a PR Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:57:56 +0000 (UTC) ru 2006-10-21 23:57:39 UTC FreeBSD src repository Modified files: usr.bin/quota Makefile quota.1 quota.c Log: - Document the default disk block usage unit. - Add option -h, human-readable output. PR: docs/53732 Revision Changes Path 1.6 +2 -2 src/usr.bin/quota/Makefile 1.17 +8 -4 src/usr.bin/quota/quota.1 1.25 +38 -15 src/usr.bin/quota/quota.c _______________________________________________ cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 00:03:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60F016A412; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A25343D4C; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9M03IYa030197; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:03:18 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9M03Ili030193; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:03:18 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:03:18 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200610220003.k9M03Ili030193@freefall.freebsd.org> To: imp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs-local@be-well.ilk.org, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/62719: cross-reference pccardd(8) and devd(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:03:19 -0000 Synopsis: cross-reference pccardd(8) and devd(8) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Sun Oct 22 00:02:57 UTC 2006 State-Changed-Why: pccardd(8) is being retired. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=62719 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 01:57:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA8E16A403 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFF843D79 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:57:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o37so463240nzf for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:57:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TFa3k/iJy3V6WNf2OQsh13p36uOQVwzOrWX83SCkRQoJkT3TtMo6pMPdaGXnQEWQ8sY0asq++dOsHvidjIk6nWGoxmUy9Zm7ckXevo4Sm0UxQe7tftNquI3ZGeaLSZNOWDWI5AfKDTi0HKxRJr0LML8+QCdEDcGiea24Rm84aM0= Received: by 10.65.234.3 with SMTP id l3mr2990400qbr; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.179.8 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <84dead720610211851y8a0fdc5x779e01cb020f6ead@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 07:21:30 +0530 From: "Joseph Koshy" To: "Kristian Poul Herkild" In-Reply-To: <453A99F5.9060508@herkild.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <453A99F5.9060508@herkild.dk> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Factual wrong information in "Explaining BSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:57:59 -0000 On 10/22/06, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: > At this url: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/comparing-bsd-and-linux.html > it is claimed (4.5) that the GPL does not allow binary-only > distribution. It is factually wrong. Section 4.5 has: "...any derivative work of a product released under the GPL must also be supplied with source code if requested." I couldn't find any text that stated that binary-only distributions are "disallowed" by the GPL. -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 16:22:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3700316A4A7; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F6F43D55; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9MGMT9s022105; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:29 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9MGMTkM022101; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:29 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:29 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200610221622.k9MGMTkM022101@freefall.freebsd.org> To: fox@vader.aacc.cc.md.us, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/66770: [patch] share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 tyops, grammar, and mdoc(7) vigilantism. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:30 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 tyops, grammar, and mdoc(7) vigilantism. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Sun Oct 22 16:22:02 UTC 2006 State-Changed-Why: I've applied applicable changes, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=66770 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 16:30:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3DF16A5F3 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFA243D49 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:30:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9MGUQ3x022352 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:30:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9MGUQKh022351; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:30:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:30:26 GMT Message-Id: <200610221630.k9MGUQKh022351@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/66770: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:30:27 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/66770; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/66770: commit references a PR Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:17 +0000 (UTC) ru 2006-10-22 16:21:55 UTC FreeBSD src repository Modified files: share/man/man4 ng_pppoe.4 Log: Fix some typos and grammar. PR: docs/66770 Submitted by: Michel Lavondès MFC after: 3 days Revision Changes Path 1.39 +16 -13 src/share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 _______________________________________________ cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 16:39:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71416A40F; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8081643D5A; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:39:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9MGdaSc024380; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:39:36 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9MGdax2024376; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:39:36 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:39:36 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200610221639.k9MGdax2024376@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/68845: The .At macro produces unexpected results X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:39:38 -0000 Synopsis: The .At macro produces unexpected results Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Oct 22 16:39:15 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll eventually fix this in mdoc(7). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=68845 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 17:14:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A836F16A40F; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9A443D70; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:14:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9MHEBxM026712; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:14:11 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9MHEBRm026708; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:14:11 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:14:11 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200610221714.k9MHEBRm026708@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/79156: buffersize knob for sound(4) is a tunable, not a sysctl. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:14:11 -0000 Synopsis: buffersize knob for sound(4) is a tunable, not a sysctl. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->freebsd-multimedia Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Oct 22 17:13:48 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: sound(4) documentation bug. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=79156 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 17:17:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECF116A403; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C86F43D6D; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:17:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9MHH2Bb026861; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:17:02 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9MHH2cB026857; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:17:02 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:17:02 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200610221717.k9MHH2cB026857@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dfr@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/80159: [patch] rtld(1) mentions "%m" but it's not implemented X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:17:02 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] rtld(1) mentions "%m" but it's not implemented Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dfr Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Oct 22 17:16:40 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: Doug, can you take care of this PR please? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80159 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 17:38:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B0616A403; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9DD43D53; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:38:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9MHcXIu029423; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:38:33 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9MHcXH8029419; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:38:33 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:38:33 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200610221738.k9MHcXH8029419@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, matteo@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/99631: [patch] document jid option in top(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:38:34 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] document jid option in top(1) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->matteo Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Oct 22 17:37:59 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assign to the current holder of PR bin/98489. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=99631 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 18:02:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FAE316A526; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFF343D5A; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:02:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9MI2ItN031576; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:02:18 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9MI2IWA031572; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:02:18 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:02:18 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200610221802.k9MI2IWA031572@freefall.freebsd.org> To: michael.lebarbier@laposte.net, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/104376: Device names listed in the syscons(4) page do not match the actual names under /dev X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:02:20 -0000 Synopsis: Device names listed in the syscons(4) page do not match the actual names under /dev State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Sun Oct 22 18:02:07 UTC 2006 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=104376 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 18:10:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE3016A49E for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E86043DA9 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:10:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9MIAOcX032053 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:10:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9MIAONL032052; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:10:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:10:24 GMT Message-Id: <200610221810.k9MIAONL032052@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/104376: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:10:46 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/104376; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/104376: commit references a PR Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:02:18 +0000 (UTC) ru 2006-10-22 18:02:01 UTC FreeBSD src repository Modified files: share/man/man4 syscons.4 Log: Fix ttyv* device names. PR: docs/104376 Submitted by: Michael Le Barbier MFC after: 3 days Revision Changes Path 1.44 +7 -7 src/share/man/man4/syscons.4 _______________________________________________ cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 11:00:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7A816A47C for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB5943D49 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:00:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9NB0Skh026219 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:00:28 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9NB0SsU026214; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:00:28 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:00:28 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200610231100.k9NB0SsU026214@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Dmitri Alenitchev Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0BC16A40F for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8521543D5F for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:50:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9NAoX5Y015445 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:50:33 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9NAoWO1015444; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:50:32 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200610231050.k9NAoWO1015444@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:50:32 GMT From: Dmitri Alenitchev To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.0 Cc: Subject: docs/104706: [patch] books/handbook/mail/chapter.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:00:29 -0000 >Number: 104706 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] books/handbook/mail/chapter.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 23 11:00:27 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dmitri Alenitchev >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Small addition to chapter 24 of handbook. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.134 diff -u -p -r1.134 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 26 Aug 2006 10:20:23 -0000 1.134 +++ chapter.sgml 23 Oct 2006 10:47:42 -0000 @@ -1984,7 +1984,8 @@ EOT &man.vi.1; command as an editor for creating and replying to emails. This may be customized by the user by creating or editing their own .muttrc file in their home directory and setting the - editor variable. + editor variable or setting the + EDITOR environment variable. In order to compose a new mail message, press @@ -2007,6 +2008,11 @@ EOT help, which can be accessed from most of the menus by pressing the ? key. The top line also displays the keyboard shortcuts where appropriate. + + The mutt can be customized by the user + by creating or editing their own .muttrc file + in their home directory. Consult + for more information. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 11:06:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E2516A412 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8696043D46 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:06:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9NB6I6G026745 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:06:18 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9NB6HlI026742 for DOC; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:06:17 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:06:17 GMT Message-Id: <200610231106.k9NB6HlI026742@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: linimon set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:06:19 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. r - repocopy The resolution of the problem report is dependent on a repocopy operation within the CVS repository which is awaiting completion. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp o docs/60679 doc [patch] pthread(3): pthreads documentation does not de o docs/61605 doc [feature request] Improve documentation for i386 disk o docs/78357 doc getaddrinfo(3)'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documented o docs/80843 doc [patch] psm(4): Suggested fix for psm0 / handle driver f docs/82296 doc ttys(5) man page misleads about use for non-getty proc o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format 9 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/35222 doc [patch] getmsg.cgi: mailing list archive URL regexp su o docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explanation. o docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long erase". o docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't mention "spread o docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wrong about host o docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded books using psu o docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailing slash, etc. o docs/38620 doc suggestion: minor rework of question in Committers Gui o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/39348 doc diskless(8): note that kenv fetch of hostname requires o docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broad warning o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/41807 doc [patch] natd(8): document natd -punch_fw "bug" o docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/43941 doc document the Rationale for Upgrade Sequence (e.g. why o docs/44074 doc [patch] ln(1) manual clarifications o docs/46196 doc [patch] menu_format(3): Missing return value in (set_) o docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery email o docs/47594 doc [PATCH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/47818 doc [patch] ln(1) manpage is confusing o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/48980 doc [patch] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 of the fdp-pr o docs/50211 doc [PATCH] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/50573 doc resolver(3): return values for res_query/res_search/re o docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed(4) driver manpage don't match realit o docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft updates into a o docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 (SMTP Authentication) o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/54879 doc jot(1) -r description s docs/55482 doc document the fact that DUMP has access to block device o docs/57388 doc [patch] INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt o docs/57926 doc [patch] amd.conf(5) poorly format as it has both man(7 p docs/58710 doc killpg(2) contains an error regarding sending SIGCONT o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/61070 doc handbook: Installation docs misleading: PResizer isn' o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/61667 doc Obsolete documentation on FreeBSD PnP o docs/61859 doc ddb(4): Incorrect informaiton about trace command ddb o docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods described in the Hand o docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref docs/24311) o docs/64807 doc Handbook section on NAT incomplete o docs/65477 doc release notes: installation instruction fail to mentio o docs/66265 doc [patch] Document what -f and LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS_F o docs/66296 doc [patch] contrib/amd/amq/amq.8 uses log_options instead o docs/66483 doc [patch] share/man/man4/csa.4 grammar nits f docs/67806 doc [patch] Let 5.x users know how to boot into single use o docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not document POSI o docs/70217 doc [patch] Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml for cla f docs/71980 doc Handbook says that no other software is known to be ab o docs/73583 doc [patch] add missing instructions to ndis(4) o docs/73679 doc FreeBSD 5.3 Release notes mention new natd(8) function o docs/74612 doc [patch] updates to the glossary o docs/75577 doc [patch] typos in man3 manual pages, login_class.3, log o docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o docs/75995 doc hcreate(3) documentation(?) bug o docs/76094 doc handbook: incorrect statement about partition d o docs/76333 doc [patch] ferror(3): EOF indicator can be cleared by not o docs/76515 doc [patch] misleading use of make -j flag in handbook o docs/77087 doc [patch] the bootvinum script given in the vinum articl o docs/78041 doc [patch] docs for md(4) need further explanation of typ o docs/78138 doc [patch] Error in pre-installation section of installat o docs/78240 doc [patch] handbook: replace with aroun f docs/78440 doc POSIX semaphores don't work by default in 5.3-STABLE o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/78520 doc error in man(5) lpd.conf, lpd.perms pages, and man(8) o docs/78915 doc rfork(2)'s RFTHREAD is not documented o docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of the handbook ne o docs/83621 doc [patch]: Minor omissions in /usr/src/UPDATING p docs/84101 doc [patch] mt(1) manpage has erroneous synopsis, etc. o docs/84154 doc Handbook somewhat off in use of /boot/kernel.old o docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting p docs/84266 doc [patch] security(8) manpage should have init(8)'s list o docs/84267 doc [patch] chflags(1) manual doesn't say it's affected by o docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either wrong or too c o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering problems o docs/84955 doc [patch] mdoc(7) manpage should mention missing documen o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/85100 doc NOTES: ICH audio device support statement is ambiguous o docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existing opiegen(1) o docs/85128 doc loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly described o docs/85186 doc [patch] ktrace(1) manpage doesn't warn about need for o docs/85187 doc [patch] find(1) manpage missing block info for -ls o docs/85243 doc Missing icmp related abbreviations for pf.conf(5) in i o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/86733 doc [patch] handbook: add using kldload as an alternative o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/88477 doc Possible addition to xl(4) manpage, Diagnostics sectio o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/89325 doc [PATCH] Clarification of kbdmap(5), atkbd(4) and kbdco o docs/89492 doc vfs doc: some VOP_*(9) manual pages are outdated with o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/93249 doc rewrite of handbook chapter 23 (PPP & SLIP) o docs/93363 doc Handbook 23.11. SMTP-Authentifizierung o docs/94125 doc DGE-530T doesn't work on FreeBSD v6.0 o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/95139 doc FAQ to move filesystem to new disk fails: incorrect pe o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/97409 doc Incorrect command name in Kerberos section (k5init doe o docs/97939 doc some mistake in man of amq(8) o docs/98941 doc Partitioning resize - only commercial product availabl o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/99007 doc [patch] misleading nat configuration info o docs/99215 doc Documentation change for sshd_config o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/99845 doc [patch] First introduce porttools to Porter's Handbook o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/100242 doc sysctl(3) description of KERN_PROC is not correct anym o docs/101464 doc sync u_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/102148 doc The description of which Intel chips have EM64T is out o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/103151 doc Some minor update for using gif(4) o docs/103347 doc Incorrect file summary in devfs(8) f docs/103730 doc [mail-archive]: duplicated file in mail archive o docs/104403 doc man security should mention that the usage of the X Wi o docs/104432 doc No mention of "let" shell builtin in manual pages. o docs/104493 doc [patch] Wrong description in ntp.conf(5) (CURRENT and o docs/104706 doc [patch] books/handbook/mail/chapter.sgml 130 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 11:30:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE5616A407 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C1943D53 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:30:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9NBUILp032330 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:30:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9NBUIfV032328; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:30:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:30:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200610231130.k9NBUIfV032328@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Simun Mikecin Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65C416A415 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sime@logos.hr) Received: from mail.logos.hr (gates.logos.hr [213.149.47.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5344843D49 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:24:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sime@logos.hr) Received: from localhost (localhost.logos.hr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.logos.hr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C5F26D054 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:24:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.logos.hr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.logos.hr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13173-03-3 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:24:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.logos.hr (Postfix, from userid 34062) id 18E6B26D050; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:24:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20061023112405.18E6B26D050@mail.logos.hr> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:24:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Simun Mikecin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/104707: [fix] manpage: clock_gettime is in time.h instead of sys/time.h X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Simun Mikecin List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:30:20 -0000 >Number: 104707 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [fix] manpage: clock_gettime is in time.h instead of sys/time.h >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 23 11:30:18 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Simun Mikecin >Release: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p5 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD plasma 6.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p5 #1: Mon Sep 4 11:44:55 CEST 2006 root@plasma:/usr/obj/usr/src.6/sys/PLASMA i386 >Description: As defined in: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/time.h.html clock_* functions and struct timespec should be defined in time.h instead of sys/time.h. Actual time.h contains the right definition, it's just the man page that is wrong. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- clock_gettime.2.orig Sat Jul 3 01:52:13 2004 +++ clock_gettime.2 Mon Oct 23 13:15:03 2006 @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ .Sh LIBRARY .Lb libc .Sh SYNOPSIS -.In sys/time.h +.In time.h .Ft int .Fn clock_gettime "clockid_t clock_id" "struct timespec *tp" .Ft int @@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ The structure pointed to by .Fa tp is defined in -.In sys/time.h +.In time.h as: .Pp .Bd -literal >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 11:56:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52E216A47C; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (comp.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF4243D73; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:56:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9NBuUJx088829; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:56:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: (from yar@localhost) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id k9NBuUSu088827; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:56:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:56:29 +0400 From: Yar Tikhiy To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20061023115629.GB87535@comp.chem.msu.su> References: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> <20061018225653.GA1332@gothmog.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061018225653.GA1332@gothmog.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:56:45 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 01:56:53AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-10-15 21:35, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I wrote an article on our rc.d subsystem. Its draft in sgml and > > html is available at http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/rcng/ . It has > > been reviewed on freebsd-rc. Now I'd like to add it to our article > > collection. I see that I should commit the article itself, then > > update www/docs/books.sgml. What else? > > > > P.S. Please feel free to review my article WRT its markup. Thanks! > > Hi Yar, > > First of all, *THANKS*! > > This is a great article, and I really enjoyed reading it. One of my > latest commits to doc/ was, in fact, inspired by this article: I'm much pleased to hear that my humble work was useful to you! > Having said that, as I was going through the article, I noticed a few > places where I would probably word things in a slightly different way. > I am not sure if all my changes are ok, but the attached patch shows all > the changes I have made locally. Thank you for the patch! Although I didn't apply all its parts verbatim, the patch showed me quite a number of rough corners still in my article. I did my best to polish them. The revised version is ready at http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/rcng/ . > This is still a work-in-progress, as I am going a second time through > the article, looking for things which I would write in a different way, > or for things which seem cool to add. I'm not done, yet, but here is a > first patch version, so we can work in parallel ;) Your help is much appreciated! > If you like any of the changes, feel free to import them in your own > copy of the article. Please, also let em know if you need help while > committing this to doc/. I can commit to doc by myself, and I'd like to, but would you mind telling me what I should do apart from committing the article itself, connecting it to the build via ../Makefile, and adding a reference to the Books & Articles Online webpage? By the way, what short title would you suggest for the article? Does "rc-scripting" look good? -- Yar From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 12:56:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FA116A407 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D20743D58 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:55:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9NCt9wK010671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:55:13 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9NCtjcN001855; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:55:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9NCtiDN001854; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:55:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:55:44 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Yar Tikhiy Message-ID: <20061023125544.GA1788@gothmog.pc> References: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> <20061018225653.GA1332@gothmog.pc> <20061023115629.GB87535@comp.chem.msu.su> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061023115629.GB87535@comp.chem.msu.su> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.653, required 5, AWL -0.26, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:56:00 -0000 On 2006-10-23 15:56, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 01:56:53AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2006-10-15 21:35, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I wrote an article on our rc.d subsystem. Its draft in sgml and > > > html is available at http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/rcng/ . It has > > > been reviewed on freebsd-rc. Now I'd like to add it to our article > > > collection. I see that I should commit the article itself, then > > > update www/docs/books.sgml. What else? > > > > > > P.S. Please feel free to review my article WRT its markup. Thanks! > > > > Hi Yar, > > > > First of all, *THANKS*! > > > > This is a great article, and I really enjoyed reading it. One of my > > latest commits to doc/ was, in fact, inspired by this article: > > I'm much pleased to hear that my humble work was useful to you! > > > Having said that, as I was going through the article, I noticed a few > > places where I would probably word things in a slightly different way. > > I am not sure if all my changes are ok, but the attached patch shows all > > the changes I have made locally. > > Thank you for the patch! Although I didn't apply all its parts > verbatim, the patch showed me quite a number of rough corners still > in my article. I did my best to polish them. > > The revised version is ready at http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/rcng/ . Nice. Let's not waste too much time in nit-picking then. Please go ahead, and commit it when you are ready :) > > This is still a work-in-progress, as I am going a second time through > > the article, looking for things which I would write in a different way, > > or for things which seem cool to add. I'm not done, yet, but here is a > > first patch version, so we can work in parallel ;) > > Your help is much appreciated! > > > If you like any of the changes, feel free to import them in your own > > copy of the article. Please, also let em know if you need help while > > committing this to doc/. > > I can commit to doc by myself, and I'd like to, but would you mind > telling me what I should do apart from committing the article itself, > connecting it to the build via ../Makefile, and adding a reference > to the Books & Articles Online webpage? AFAIK, in general, the process of adding a new article is: 1. Commit the article under doc/en_US.ISO8859-7/articles/rcng/* 2. Add a SUBDIR entry to doc/en_US.ISO8859-7/articles/Makefile 3. Add a reference to the new article to www/en/docs/books.sgml > By the way, what short title would you suggest for the article? Does > "rc-scripting" look good? "The System Startup Scripts of FreeBSD" seems short to me. I'm not sure what you mean by "short title" though. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 13:06:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633F316A40F; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (comp.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56C543D5E; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9ND64d8090053; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:06:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: (from yar@localhost) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id k9ND64OI090052; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:06:04 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:06:04 +0400 From: Yar Tikhiy To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20061023130604.GI87535@comp.chem.msu.su> References: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> <20061018225653.GA1332@gothmog.pc> <20061023115629.GB87535@comp.chem.msu.su> <20061023125544.GA1788@gothmog.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061023125544.GA1788@gothmog.pc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:06:12 -0000 On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 03:55:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > AFAIK, in general, the process of adding a new article is: > > 1. Commit the article under doc/en_US.ISO8859-7/articles/rcng/* > > 2. Add a SUBDIR entry to doc/en_US.ISO8859-7/articles/Makefile > > 3. Add a reference to the new article to www/en/docs/books.sgml Thanks! > > By the way, what short title would you suggest for the article? Does > > "rc-scripting" look good? > > "The System Startup Scripts of FreeBSD" seems short to me. I'm not sure > what you mean by "short title" though. It's the word a) used as the subdirectory name in doc/.../articles and b) shown in parentheses next to the full title in the Books & Articles Online webpage. I used "rcng" in my working version, but I was pointed out that rcNG is an outdated term. Moreover, my article isn't on rcNG AKA rc.d in general, but on its practical application. That's why I am considering "rc-scripting" instead of "rcng" as the final short name for the repo. -- Yar From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 13:14:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FDC16A403 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD5A43D49 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:14:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k9NDDpet012438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:13:55 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9NDERg5002080; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:14:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k9NDEQV9002079; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:14:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:14:26 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Yar Tikhiy Message-ID: <20061023131426.GA2065@gothmog.pc> References: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> <20061018225653.GA1332@gothmog.pc> <20061023115629.GB87535@comp.chem.msu.su> <20061023125544.GA1788@gothmog.pc> <20061023130604.GI87535@comp.chem.msu.su> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061023130604.GI87535@comp.chem.msu.su> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.652, required 5, AWL -0.25, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:14:30 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2006-10-23 17:06, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 03:55:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > AFAIK, in general, the process of adding a new article is: > >=20 > > 1. Commit the article under doc/en_US.ISO8859-7/articles/rcng/* > >=20 > > 2. Add a SUBDIR entry to doc/en_US.ISO8859-7/articles/Makefile > >=20 > > 3. Add a reference to the new article to www/en/docs/books.sgml >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > > > By the way, what short title would you suggest for the article? Does > > > "rc-scripting" look good? > >=20 > > "The System Startup Scripts of FreeBSD" seems short to me. I'm not sure > > what you mean by "short title" though. >=20 > It's the word a) used as the subdirectory name in doc/.../articles > and b) shown in parentheses next to the full title in the Books & > Articles Online webpage. I used "rcng" in my working version, but > I was pointed out that rcNG is an outdated term. Moreover, my > article isn't on rcNG AKA rc.d in general, but on its practical > application. That's why I am considering "rc-scripting" instead > of "rcng" as the final short name for the repo. Ah! I see now. Yeah, "rc-scripting" sounds fine. --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFPMAy1g+UGjGGA7YRAhMsAJwLBIvFTE/s2B6mDK6ZX7uGEqrY7gCgplPk ylzyNSpo4mneg7cm7AzA+OY= =u34g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 14:02:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0711016A492 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike_k12003@yahoo.gr) Received: from web25507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E5FC43D46 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:02:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike_k12003@yahoo.gr) Received: (qmail 69517 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2006 14:02:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.gr; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nQNp6L1Czcp00L2wH/k6XzI6qmuIL1RegCNK1efW95xyrwjsTapMh+Mldy9nHqjqsb5oYOOgqiLFNpBrUqlo+FpsBlqoMCDnDbqOp1Exuo9V7Yvzp6kvLPIdDJKXmW4fCLkBbOSsntJIQ2DIRDQOxmKyMBr/DXeS9Ga/VqUk8uw= ; Message-ID: <20061023140231.69515.qmail@web25507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.251.76.121] by web25507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:02:31 BST Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:02:31 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Ravousis To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: A bit of help... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:02:34 -0000 I have just located your page (and I am quite Impressed). As part of my master I have to do some benchmark readings in MINIX 3 and Linux. Problem: I am an absoloute beginner. I saw some of the benchmark you present and I know that BSD and MINIX are similar, so if you know can you suggest to me some benchmark suitable for my work (some tutorial on them would be also nice :) ) Thanks in advance Mike Kypriotis --------------------------------- ×ñçóéìïðïéåßôå Yahoo! ÂáñåèÞêáôå ôá åíï÷ëçôéêÜ ìçíý ìáôá (spam); Ôï Yahoo! Mail äéáèÝôåé ôçí êáëýôåñç äõíáôÞ ðñïóôáóßá êáôÜ ôùí åíï÷ëçôéêþí ìçíõìÜôùí http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 14:36:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAB016A403 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro (bavaria.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4066943D45 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:36:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AA77F406 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:36:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bavaria.utcluj.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16096-04 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:36:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [10.14.2.208] (wlanccd.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA717F3FF for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:36:45 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:36:43 +0300 From: Cristian KLEIN Organization: Data Communication Center - Technical University of Cluj-Napoca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the daemon playing with your mail on bavaria.utcluj.ro Subject: Want to help with handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:36:51 -0000 Hi, I am sorry if I hit the wrong list, but there was to responsible person listed in this page: http://www1.ro.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#handbooksection I would like to contribute to the firewall chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook. Specifically, I would like to write about dummynet, mixed-firewall environments (such as IPF + IPFW) and compiling firewalls as modules. Also, I haven't found any evidence of DEVICE_POLLING and LARGE_NAT. All this information is very common for "old" FreeBSD users, but I feel that new users should find out about this information directly from the handbook. I am not a native english speaker, but I think that once I have written something, it should be easier to correct it, rather that start from scratch. Please tell me whom I should contact. Please CC me, as I am not subscribed to this list. Thanks, Cristi. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 19:50:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE30216A412 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2045F43D5F for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 19990 invoked by uid 399); 23 Oct 2006 19:50:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Oct 2006 19:50:46 -0000 Message-ID: <453D1D14.1060000@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:50:44 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yar Tikhiy References: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> In-Reply-To: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:50:47 -0000 Yar Tikhiy wrote: > Hi folks, > > I wrote an article on our rc.d subsystem. Its draft in sgml and > html is available at http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/rcng/ . It has > been reviewed on freebsd-rc. Now I'd like to add it to our article > collection. I see that I should commit the article itself, then > update www/docs/books.sgml. What else? I would appreciate it if you'd also add a link to this article to the sections of the handbook and the porter's handbook that refer to rc.d scripting. Your short name of rc-scripting is good. You could also consider rc-scripts to save a couple bytes, but it's up to you. I have a few suggestions: 1. In your first dummy script, you could write this: start_cmd="${name}_start" which makes copy and pasting of script elements easier. 2. In Section 3, note 1 that paragraph is still a little bit tough to follow. I would simplify everything after "/etc/rc.d/dummy start" by saying something like, "In order to be properly managed by the rc.d system, these scripts need to be written using the /bin/sh language. If you have a service or port that uses a binary, or a startup routine written in another language, please install that element in /usr/libexec (for the system) or /usr/local/libexec (for ports) and call that with a /bin/sh script in the appropriate rc.d directory." 3. In note 2 you might want to mention /etc/network.subr. 4. In note 4 (and elsewhere) you refer to "methods" for rc.subr to invoke. I'm not very comfortable with this term, and it sounds too C++ to me. I would prefer the use of the term "function" which is both literally true and closer to how sh scripting is usually described. I'm not insisting that you change it, just stating a strong preference. 5. In Section 4, note 4 you might want to expand your "Note:" regarding prefixing the variables with ${name}. You might also want to include a note that the preferred style is that the name of the script, the PROVIDE: in the script, the value of the name variable, and the prefix for the rc.conf variables should all be the same. 6. In Section 6, note 1, including flags in command_args is not just a bad idea, it's not allowed. It causes anything included in ${name}_flags to be included twice, and is the source of a lot of problems for users. It would be a good idea to expand on that point a little. 7. In the introduction to Section 7 you mention USE_RC_SUBR. That might be a good place to link to the section in the Porter's Handbook that covers its use. While this may seem like a lot of notes, I'd like to emphasize that overall this is an excellent article, and very well written. Thank you for contributing it! Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 20:52:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245AE16A415; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F7D43D83; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:52:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9NKPgng080960; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:25:42 GMT (envelope-from ru@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9NKPfqW080956; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:25:41 GMT (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:25:41 GMT From: Ruslan Ermilov Message-Id: <200610232025.k9NKPfqW080956@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@ex-parrot.com, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/82296: ttys(5) man page misleads about use for non-getty processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:52:45 -0000 Synopsis: ttys(5) man page misleads about use for non-getty processes State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Mon Oct 23 20:23:45 UTC 2006 State-Changed-Why: It's been long fixed (see rev. 1.59 of init.c in HEAD). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=82296 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 21:55:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D644516A407 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665B143D76 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:55:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc7lG-00025i-CA for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:55:14 +0200 Received: from r5h168.net.upc.cz ([86.49.7.168]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:55:09 +0200 Received: from gamato by r5h168.net.upc.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:55:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:45:41 +0200 Lines: 22 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: r5h168.net.upc.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20061021 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 Sender: news Subject: Sunbird fails to import FreeBSD Events ICS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:55:39 -0000 Hello, I'm not sure whether this is Sunbird fault or ICS is incorrect but after installing Sunbird 0.3 from ports on FreeBSD and trying to subscribe to http://www.freebsd.org/events/events.ics I'm getting the following error message: There has been an error reading data for calendar: FreeBSD Events. It has been placed in read-only mode, since changes to this calendar will likely result in data-loss. You may change this setting by choosing 'Edit Calendar'. An error occured while decoding an iCalendar (ics) file as UTF-8. Check that the file, including symbols and accented letters, is encoded using the UTF-8 character encoding. Please note that long time ago the ICS worked OK with original Mozilla Calendar add-on. Regards, Martin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 23 23:41:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E002916A407 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11A4A43D6E for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:41:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 18828 invoked by uid 399); 23 Oct 2006 23:41:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?156.154.4.185?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Oct 2006 23:41:53 -0000 Message-ID: <453D533F.9020301@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:41:51 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cristian KLEIN References: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> In-Reply-To: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Want to help with handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:41:55 -0000 Cristian KLEIN wrote: > Hi, > > I am sorry if I hit the wrong list, but there was to responsible person > listed in this page: > http://www1.ro.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#handbooksection > > I would like to contribute to the firewall chapter of the FreeBSD > Handbook. Specifically, I would like to write about dummynet, > mixed-firewall environments (such as IPF + IPFW) and compiling firewalls > as modules. Also, I haven't found any evidence of DEVICE_POLLING and > LARGE_NAT. All this information is very common for "old" FreeBSD users, > but I feel that new users should find out about this information > directly from the handbook. > > I am not a native english speaker, but I think that once I have written > something, it should be easier to correct it, rather that start from > scratch. > > Please tell me whom I should contact. Please CC me, as I am not > subscribed to this list. No need to ask permission, just start writing. :) Once you think it's in shape to review, post a URL with the files to this list. Once it's in shape to submit, you can send it with send-pr, or perhaps someone will offer to commit it directly. hth, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 24 07:54:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FF516A403; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro (bavaria.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EF243D53; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:54:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BE67F3F8; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:54:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bavaria.utcluj.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 62212-08; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:54:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [172.27.2.200] (c7.campus.utcluj.ro [193.226.6.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657387F3DE; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:54:51 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <453DC6CA.60304@net.utcluj.ro> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:54:50 +0300 From: Cristian KLEIN Organization: Data Communication Center - Technical University of Cluj-Napoca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> <453D533F.9020301@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <453D533F.9020301@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the daemon playing with your mail on bavaria.utcluj.ro Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Want to help with handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:54:57 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > Cristian KLEIN wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am sorry if I hit the wrong list, but there was to responsible person >> listed in this page: >> http://www1.ro.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#handbooksection >> >> I would like to contribute to the firewall chapter of the FreeBSD >> Handbook. Specifically, I would like to write about dummynet, >> mixed-firewall environments (such as IPF + IPFW) and compiling firewalls >> as modules. Also, I haven't found any evidence of DEVICE_POLLING and >> LARGE_NAT. All this information is very common for "old" FreeBSD users, >> but I feel that new users should find out about this information >> directly from the handbook. >> >> I am not a native english speaker, but I think that once I have written >> something, it should be easier to correct it, rather that start from >> scratch. >> >> Please tell me whom I should contact. Please CC me, as I am not >> subscribed to this list. > > No need to ask permission, just start writing. :) Once you think it's in > shape to review, post a URL with the files to this list. Once it's in > shape to submit, you can send it with send-pr, or perhaps someone will > offer to commit it directly. Thanks. I was also interested whether these topics are of value to the handbook. Some of the above-mentioned things are close to "hacking". For example, I like to swap ipfw and ipnat in /etc/rc.d/*. Should this be mentioned in the handbook too? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 24 17:34:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A86B16A415; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (ns1.pittgoth.com [216.38.206.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D110943D46; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:34:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (ip70-177-190-239.dc.dc.cox.net [70.177.190.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9OHY4US057226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:34:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:34:01 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Cristian KLEIN Message-Id: <20061024133401.51158add.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <453DC6CA.60304@net.utcluj.ro> References: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> <453D533F.9020301@FreeBSD.org> <453DC6CA.60304@net.utcluj.ro> Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Want to help with handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:34:07 -0000 On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:54:50 +0300 Cristian KLEIN wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: > > Cristian KLEIN wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am sorry if I hit the wrong list, but there was to responsible person > >> listed in this page: > >> http://www1.ro.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#handbooksection > >> > >> I would like to contribute to the firewall chapter of the FreeBSD > >> Handbook. Specifically, I would like to write about dummynet, > >> mixed-firewall environments (such as IPF + IPFW) and compiling firewalls > >> as modules. Also, I haven't found any evidence of DEVICE_POLLING and > >> LARGE_NAT. All this information is very common for "old" FreeBSD users, > >> but I feel that new users should find out about this information > >> directly from the handbook. > >> > >> I am not a native english speaker, but I think that once I have written > >> something, it should be easier to correct it, rather that start from > >> scratch. > >> > >> Please tell me whom I should contact. Please CC me, as I am not > >> subscribed to this list. > > > > No need to ask permission, just start writing. :) Once you think it's in > > shape to review, post a URL with the files to this list. Once it's in > > shape to submit, you can send it with send-pr, or perhaps someone will > > offer to commit it directly. > > Thanks. I was also interested whether these topics are of value to the > handbook. Some of the above-mentioned things are close to "hacking". For > example, I like to swap ipfw and ipnat in /etc/rc.d/*. Should this be > mentioned in the handbook too? Really depends on what you mean by "swap" ? -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 24 19:30:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757AC16A415 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDF143D53 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:30:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9OJUE1O017506 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:30:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9OJUE7B017505; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:30:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:30:14 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200610241930.k9OJUE7B017505@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Paul Brian Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEB716A412 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3938E43D91 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:28:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9OJRxCD085328 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:27:59 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9OJRxCo085326; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:27:59 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200610241927.k9OJRxCo085326@www.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:27:59 GMT From: Paul Brian To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.0 Cc: Subject: docs/104767: Suggest make diff. between src and ports clearer in CVSUP manual pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:30:22 -0000 >Number: 104767 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Suggest make diff. between src and ports clearer in CVSUP manual pages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Oct 24 19:30:13 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Paul Brian >Release: RELENG_6 >Organization: PIRC Ltd >Environment: FreeBSD pbrian.office.pirc.co.uk 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: I am a newbie to FreeBsd but not Linux/programming and the following feels a little embarrassing, but I may have noticed a blind spot for people immersed in FreeBSD. I have been struggling to truly "get" CVSUP, and have recently had a flash of the blidingly obvious that I suspect others (reading newgroups) also struggle to see. Could you add a paragraph explaining in words of one syllable the difference between src-all and ports-all to the intro section of books/handbook/cvsup.html Until just now I did not realise that src was the src for code developed by FreeBSD and ports where make instructions for third party code. This makes the brach/release tag more obvious as well. THis seems not an uncommon issue in the groups [1]. Now it is pretty embarrassing to say that, but I have been reading carefully. Twice. Honest. So I would suggest a paragraph explaining very clearly that src and ports come from different places, so when ports breaks it is easier to work out why. Suggested phrases "It is helpful to note that src collection will download the code created by the FreeBSD volunteers as part of the FreeBSD project, and is kept as a tree in /usr/src. The ports collection (/usr/ports) is the better known part, and is in essence make instructions for 3rd party software, compatible with FreeBSd but not produced by the volunteers who create the operating system and tools. - you do not download 3rd party code when doing a cvsup. Now all you have to worry about is choosing the right release tag. " [1] http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/printthread.php?t=36509, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-April/084604.html >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 24 20:14:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C363316A403; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro (bavaria.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E7643D4C; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DE37F445; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:14:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bavaria.utcluj.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08637-06; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:14:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [172.27.2.200] (c7.campus.utcluj.ro [193.226.6.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB07F43C; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:14:49 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <453E7437.1080300@net.utcluj.ro> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:14:47 +0300 From: Cristian KLEIN Organization: Data Communication Center - Technical University of Cluj-Napoca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes References: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> <453D533F.9020301@FreeBSD.org> <453DC6CA.60304@net.utcluj.ro> <20061024133401.51158add.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20061024133401.51158add.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the daemon playing with your mail on bavaria.utcluj.ro Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Want to help with handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:14:55 -0000 Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:54:50 +0300 > Cristian KLEIN wrote: > >> Doug Barton wrote: >>> Cristian KLEIN wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am sorry if I hit the wrong list, but there was to responsible person >>>> listed in this page: >>>> http://www1.ro.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#handbooksection >>>> >>>> I would like to contribute to the firewall chapter of the FreeBSD >>>> Handbook. Specifically, I would like to write about dummynet, >>>> mixed-firewall environments (such as IPF + IPFW) and compiling firewalls >>>> as modules. Also, I haven't found any evidence of DEVICE_POLLING and >>>> LARGE_NAT. All this information is very common for "old" FreeBSD users, >>>> but I feel that new users should find out about this information >>>> directly from the handbook. >>>> >>>> I am not a native english speaker, but I think that once I have written >>>> something, it should be easier to correct it, rather that start from >>>> scratch. >>>> >>>> Please tell me whom I should contact. Please CC me, as I am not >>>> subscribed to this list. >>> No need to ask permission, just start writing. :) Once you think it's in >>> shape to review, post a URL with the files to this list. Once it's in >>> shape to submit, you can send it with send-pr, or perhaps someone will >>> offer to commit it directly. >> Thanks. I was also interested whether these topics are of value to the >> handbook. Some of the above-mentioned things are close to "hacking". For >> example, I like to swap ipfw and ipnat in /etc/rc.d/*. Should this be >> mentioned in the handbook too? > > Really depends on what you mean by "swap" ? > It means editing the REQUIRES, BEFORE in /etc/rc.d/ipfw. As far as I know, it is not standard FreeBSD practice to do such things. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 24 20:50:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDAB16A40F for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7643643D5E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:50:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9OKoNV3026963 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:50:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9OKoN8G026961; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:50:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:50:23 GMT Message-Id: <200610242050.k9OKoN8G026961@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Tom Rhodes Cc: Subject: Re: docs/104767: Suggest make diff. between src and ports clearer in CVSUP manual pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tom Rhodes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:50:24 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/104767; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Paul Brian Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/104767: Suggest make diff. between src and ports clearer in CVSUP manual pages Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:49:05 -0400 On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:27:59 GMT Paul Brian wrote: Hi Paul, > > >Number: 104767 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Suggest make diff. between src and ports clearer in CVSUP manual pages > >Confidential: no > >Severity: non-critical > >Priority: low > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: change-request > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Tue Oct 24 19:30:13 GMT 2006 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: Paul Brian > >Release: RELENG_6 > >Organization: > PIRC Ltd > >Environment: > FreeBSD pbrian.office.pirc.co.uk 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > >Description: > I am a newbie to FreeBsd but not Linux/programming and the following feels a little embarrassing, but I may have noticed a blind spot for people immersed in FreeBSD. > > I have been struggling to truly "get" CVSUP, and have recently had a flash of the blidingly obvious that I suspect others (reading newgroups) also struggle to see. > > Could you add a paragraph explaining in words of one syllable the difference between src-all and ports-all to the intro section of books/handbook/cvsup.html > > Until just now I did not realise that src was the src for code developed by FreeBSD and ports where make instructions for third party code. This makes the brach/release tag more obvious as well. THis seems not an uncommon issue in the groups [1]. Now it is pretty embarrassing to say that, but I have been reading carefully. Twice. Honest. > > So I would suggest a paragraph explaining very clearly that src and ports come from different places, so when ports breaks it is easier to work out why. > > Suggested phrases > > "It is helpful to note that src collection will download the code created by the FreeBSD volunteers as part of the FreeBSD project, and is kept as a tree in /usr/src. The ports collection (/usr/ports) is the better known part, and is in essence make instructions for 3rd party software, compatible with FreeBSd but not produced by the volunteers who create the operating system and tools. > - you do not download 3rd party code when doing a cvsup. > > Now all you have to worry about is choosing the right release tag. > " I think that the CVSup explanation found here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html while not easy to find, does explain "src-all" as "entire main source tree for the FreeBSD" in an early paragraph and later on as "The main FreeBSD sources, including the cryptography code." It also explains the ports option. With large "WARNING" comments, I'm not sure how the confusion could occur unless there is much skipping with the eyes. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 24 22:07:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1B016A40F; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (ns1.pittgoth.com [216.38.206.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5AA43D49; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:07:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (ip70-177-190-239.dc.dc.cox.net [70.177.190.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9OM7qg7058333 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:07:48 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Cristian KLEIN Message-Id: <20061024180748.4adc6f12.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <453E7437.1080300@net.utcluj.ro> References: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> <453D533F.9020301@FreeBSD.org> <453DC6CA.60304@net.utcluj.ro> <20061024133401.51158add.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <453E7437.1080300@net.utcluj.ro> Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Want to help with handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:07:55 -0000 On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:14:47 +0300 Cristian KLEIN wrote: > Tom Rhodes wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:54:50 +0300 > > Cristian KLEIN wrote: > > > >> Doug Barton wrote: > >>> Cristian KLEIN wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> I am sorry if I hit the wrong list, but there was to responsible person > >>>> listed in this page: > >>>> http://www1.ro.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#handbooksection > >>>> > >>>> I would like to contribute to the firewall chapter of the FreeBSD > >>>> Handbook. Specifically, I would like to write about dummynet, > >>>> mixed-firewall environments (such as IPF + IPFW) and compiling firewalls > >>>> as modules. Also, I haven't found any evidence of DEVICE_POLLING and > >>>> LARGE_NAT. All this information is very common for "old" FreeBSD users, > >>>> but I feel that new users should find out about this information > >>>> directly from the handbook. > >>>> > >>>> I am not a native english speaker, but I think that once I have written > >>>> something, it should be easier to correct it, rather that start from > >>>> scratch. > >>>> > >>>> Please tell me whom I should contact. Please CC me, as I am not > >>>> subscribed to this list. > >>> No need to ask permission, just start writing. :) Once you think it's in > >>> shape to review, post a URL with the files to this list. Once it's in > >>> shape to submit, you can send it with send-pr, or perhaps someone will > >>> offer to commit it directly. > >> Thanks. I was also interested whether these topics are of value to the > >> handbook. Some of the above-mentioned things are close to "hacking". For > >> example, I like to swap ipfw and ipnat in /etc/rc.d/*. Should this be > >> mentioned in the handbook too? > > > > Really depends on what you mean by "swap" ? > > > > It means editing the REQUIRES, BEFORE in /etc/rc.d/ipfw. As far as I > know, it is not standard FreeBSD practice to do such things. Oh, we can do that if there is a dependency. I'll need to look into the matter further though. Is there an issue where one will fail to load if the previous does not? Thanks, -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 24 23:15:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E82916A492; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro (bavaria.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A47A43D64; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:15:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83487F445; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:15:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bavaria.utcluj.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18267-01; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:15:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [172.27.2.200] (c7.campus.utcluj.ro [193.226.6.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619E67F443; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:15:10 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <453E9E7B.4050801@net.utcluj.ro> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:15:07 +0300 From: Cristian KLEIN Organization: Data Communication Center - Technical University of Cluj-Napoca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes References: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> <453D533F.9020301@FreeBSD.org> <453DC6CA.60304@net.utcluj.ro> <20061024133401.51158add.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <453E7437.1080300@net.utcluj.ro> <20061024180748.4adc6f12.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20061024180748.4adc6f12.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the daemon playing with your mail on bavaria.utcluj.ro Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Want to help with handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:15:17 -0000 Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:14:47 +0300 > Cristian KLEIN wrote: > >> Tom Rhodes wrote: >>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:54:50 +0300 >>> Cristian KLEIN wrote: >>> >>>> Doug Barton wrote: >>>>> Cristian KLEIN wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sorry if I hit the wrong list, but there was to responsible person >>>>>> listed in this page: >>>>>> http://www1.ro.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#handbooksection >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to contribute to the firewall chapter of the FreeBSD >>>>>> Handbook. Specifically, I would like to write about dummynet, >>>>>> mixed-firewall environments (such as IPF + IPFW) and compiling firewalls >>>>>> as modules. Also, I haven't found any evidence of DEVICE_POLLING and >>>>>> LARGE_NAT. All this information is very common for "old" FreeBSD users, >>>>>> but I feel that new users should find out about this information >>>>>> directly from the handbook. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not a native english speaker, but I think that once I have written >>>>>> something, it should be easier to correct it, rather that start from >>>>>> scratch. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please tell me whom I should contact. Please CC me, as I am not >>>>>> subscribed to this list. >>>>> No need to ask permission, just start writing. :) Once you think it's in >>>>> shape to review, post a URL with the files to this list. Once it's in >>>>> shape to submit, you can send it with send-pr, or perhaps someone will >>>>> offer to commit it directly. >>>> Thanks. I was also interested whether these topics are of value to the >>>> handbook. Some of the above-mentioned things are close to "hacking". For >>>> example, I like to swap ipfw and ipnat in /etc/rc.d/*. Should this be >>>> mentioned in the handbook too? >>> Really depends on what you mean by "swap" ? >>> >> It means editing the REQUIRES, BEFORE in /etc/rc.d/ipfw. As far as I >> know, it is not standard FreeBSD practice to do such things. > > Oh, we can do that if there is a dependency. I'll need to look > into the matter further though. Is there an issue where one will > fail to load if the previous does not? I haven't really understood your question, but I hope the following info will answer it. Originally, ipfw requires netif, while ipf is before netif. This places ipfw explicitly after ipf. I honestly have absolutely no idea why the dependencies are like this. I changed /etc/rc.d/ipfw like this: # REQUIRE: root mountcritical # BEFORE: ipfilter And it works for me :D. Talking about /etc/rc.d/ipfw, when using dummynet and ipfw, both compiled as modules, /etc/rc.d/ipfw is unable to load "pipe"s in the ruleset, because there is no place dummynet is loaded. On the contrary, loading dummynet also loads ipfw. Few people encounter this problem, as dummynet is usually compiled into the kernel. I solved the problem by changing "kldload ipfw" with "kldload dummynet" in /etc/rc.d/ipfw. I wouldn't know a general way of solving this problem. Perhaps ipfw should load dummynet when encountaring a "pipe" rule? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 24 23:20:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAF516A492 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro (bavaria.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99CD43DA0 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:20:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6887F440 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:20:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bavaria.utcluj.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18267-06 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:20:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [172.27.2.200] (c7.campus.utcluj.ro [193.226.6.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF9B7F443 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:20:42 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <453E9FC7.4000307@net.utcluj.ro> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:20:39 +0300 From: Cristian KLEIN Organization: Data Communication Center - Technical University of Cluj-Napoca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the daemon playing with your mail on bavaria.utcluj.ro Subject: Multiple firewalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:20:55 -0000 Hi everybody, Please review the following article: http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-multi.html Here is the patch against the newest cvs-doc: http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/doc/firewalls-multi.diff Thanks. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 25 10:14:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F39616A417 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcweels@yahoo.com) Received: from web52214.mail.yahoo.com (web52214.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.48.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F9A343D49 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:14:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcweels@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92446 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Oct 2006 10:14:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=d6Y2u+QIm4mRlBIgsJ7kA4S8F0DLBfzB72LR0PSisE4NE/4w/DMJZ0pH4d+JzNB/UtJknSDQlJHbdV0bgcqMYD9NrZ6tdzKF+0PdZp+PZZ9lskOdOzPNTUHYkLNe8Ml1AUplTdGwillZf43jH8uBFqWn/72RtLU15AslhYL9YpQ= ; Message-ID: <20061025101421.92444.qmail@web52214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.3.171.48] by web52214.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:14:21 PDT Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: winter To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Handbook - correction for new versions of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:14:23 -0000 In section: 2.12.1 Installing FreeBSD on a System without a Monitor or Keyboard The handbook incorrectly refers to the floppy images for those using a newer version of FreeBSD. For example: To modify these floppies to boot into a serial console, follow these steps: 1.Enabling the Boot Floppies to Boot into a Serial Console If you were to boot into the floppies that you just made, FreeBSD would boot into its normal install mode. We want FreeBSD to boot into a serial console for our install. To do this, you have to mount the kern.flp floppy onto your FreeBSD system using the mount(8) command. --- And: That's it! You should now be able to control the headless machine through your cu session. It will ask you to put in the mfsroot.flp, and then it will come up with a selection of what kind of terminal to use. Select the FreeBSD color console and proceed with your install! --- I am not sure when the floppy images changed. I am right now doing a serial install of FreeBSD 6.1 with the instructions provided, except writing the boot.config to the boot.flp disk. After a while it asks for the kern1.flp and kern2.flp disks rather than the mfsroot.flp disk. I just wanted to point this out for future revisions in case it slipped by. Thanks for the excellent Docs and OS! Regards, Winter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 25 11:43:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE41316A416 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44F543D6B for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from [88.64.183.79] (helo=amd64.laiers.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu6) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML29c-1GchAB1H4w-0006uJ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:43:17 +0200 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:42:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <453E9FC7.4000307@net.utcluj.ro> In-Reply-To: <453E9FC7.4000307@net.utcluj.ro> X-Face: ,,8R(x[kmU]tKN@>gtH1yQE4aslGdu+2]; R]*pL,U>^H?)gW@49@wdJ`H<=?utf-8?q?=25=7D*=5FBD=0A=09U=5For=3D=5CmOZf764=26nYj=3DJYbR1PW0ud?=>|!~,,CPC.1-D$FG@0h3#'5"k{V]a~.<=?utf-8?q?mZ=7D44=23Se=7Em=0A=09Fe=7E=5C=5DX5B=5D=5Fxj?=(ykz9QKMw_l0C2AQ]}Ym8)fU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1419475.X0jGzh6FRq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200610251343.06622.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:61c499deaeeba3ba5be80f48ecc83056 Cc: Cristian KLEIN Subject: Re: Multiple firewalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:43:24 -0000 --nextPart1419475.X0jGzh6FRq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:20, Cristian KLEIN wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Please review the following article: > http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ >firewalls-multi.html "Note: At the time of this writing, using IPFW and PF is not recommended." Where do you get such information? I know of several successful=20 installations doing things like divert for L7 filtering in ipfw=20 and "normal" firewalling in pf. Also note, that in order to use ipfw's=20 ALTQ pf (eventhough one w/o a filtering ruleset) is required. > Here is the patch against the newest cvs-doc: > http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/doc/firewalls-multi.diff =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart1419475.X0jGzh6FRq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFP03KXyyEoT62BG0RAhUQAJ9uP5mX5El/WEthfs1dHUiZAsVacQCfQ3Se DrS23Z7Rxo6UeGI2XXP6v+g= =HvEA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1419475.X0jGzh6FRq-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 25 13:22:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0710816A40F for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro (bavaria.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8060943D45 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:22:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561C97F450; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:22:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bavaria.utcluj.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70863-08; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:22:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [10.14.2.208] (wlanccd.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9697F447; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:22:03 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <453F64F9.6090709@net.utcluj.ro> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:22:01 +0300 From: Cristian KLEIN Organization: Data Communication Center - Technical University of Cluj-Napoca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max Laier References: <453E9FC7.4000307@net.utcluj.ro> <200610251343.06622.max@love2party.net> In-Reply-To: <200610251343.06622.max@love2party.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the daemon playing with your mail on bavaria.utcluj.ro Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple firewalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:22:09 -0000 Max Laier wrote: > On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:20, Cristian KLEIN wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> Please review the following article: >> http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ >> firewalls-multi.html > > "Note: At the time of this writing, using IPFW and PF is not recommended." > > Where do you get such information? I know of several successful > installations doing things like divert for L7 filtering in ipfw > and "normal" firewalling in pf. Also note, that in order to use ipfw's > ALTQ pf (eventhough one w/o a filtering ruleset) is required. PF NAT did not work on a computer on which IPFW and PF were build into the kernel. IPFW was not even enabled, but for some reason, packets did not get translated. I admit that more research should be done in this direction. > >> Here is the patch against the newest cvs-doc: >> http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/doc/firewalls-multi.diff > -- +-------------------------------------+ | Cristian KLEIN | | Network Engineer | | Communication Center | | Technical University of Cluj-Napoca | +-------------------------------------+ | Tel: +40-264-401247, int. 247 | | WWW: http://www.cc.utcluj.ro | +-------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 25 23:56:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB6D16A412 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro (bavaria.utcluj.ro [193.226.5.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8280B446C3 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:56:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cristi@net.utcluj.ro) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C897F447; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:56:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bavaria.utcluj.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bavaria.utcluj.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99956-09; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:56:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [172.27.2.200] (c7.campus.utcluj.ro [193.226.6.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bavaria.utcluj.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868EB7F412; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:56:27 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <453FF9AA.6010200@net.utcluj.ro> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:56:26 +0300 From: Cristian KLEIN Organization: Data Communication Center - Technical University of Cluj-Napoca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max Laier References: <453E9FC7.4000307@net.utcluj.ro> <200610251343.06622.max@love2party.net> In-Reply-To: <200610251343.06622.max@love2party.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the daemon playing with your mail on bavaria.utcluj.ro Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple firewalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:56:34 -0000 Max Laier wrote: > On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:20, Cristian KLEIN wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> Please review the following article: >> http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ >> firewalls-multi.html > > "Note: At the time of this writing, using IPFW and PF is not recommended." > > Where do you get such information? I know of several successful > installations doing things like divert for L7 filtering in ipfw > and "normal" firewalling in pf. Also note, that in order to use ipfw's > ALTQ pf (eventhough one w/o a filtering ruleset) is required. You are right. That info must date from the time I had haluciantions. I have done more testing and found no problem. I have switched from IPFW+IPNAT to IPFW+IPNAT+PF to IPFW+PF. All worked as expected. I must say I like IPFW+PF more, because it makes passive FTP easy, even if a very restrictive firewall is desired. My appologies for misinforming the community. Seems that I have to write another section called IPFW+PF. :) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 26 05:10:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E797B16A407 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFE243D49 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9Q5AMXS026018 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:10:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9Q5AMPn026017; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:10:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:10:22 GMT Message-Id: <200610260510.k9Q5AMPn026017@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: eazy bsd Cc: Subject: docs/103730 [mail-archive]: duplicated file in mail archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: eazy bsd List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:10:23 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/103730; it has been noted by GNATS. From: eazy bsd To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: docs/103730 [mail-archive]: duplicated file in mail archive Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:05:20 -0700 (PDT) > From where are you downloading these files? cvsup11.freebsd.org. though it is experiencing gnats_misc_103814 at the moment so anyone using it will need to do so by its ip, 63.87.62.77. > Are you sure that the host you use to retrieve > these files is still up to date? yes. grabbing these supfile lines... *default compress delete use-rel-suffix mail-archive release=current prefix=freebsd_mail-archive from cvsup11 results in this evidence... ls -altT freebsd_mail-archive/archive | head -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 36721 Oct 25 23:01:19 2006 freebsd-advocacy -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 87904 Oct 25 22:52:20 2006 freebsd-mobile -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 21778 Oct 25 22:40:16 2006 freebsd-perl -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 1142032 Oct 25 22:36:55 2006 freebsd-ports-bugs -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 750956 Oct 25 22:36:39 2006 freebsd-stable date ; date -u Wed Oct 25 23:49:54 EDT 2006 Thu Oct 26 03:49:54 UTC 2006 to be sure, i nuked checkouts.current and the two files in question, did cvsup -x -L 2 cvsup11.freebsd.org and the result is exactly the same sums and dates as before. a local wrapper script also filters cvsup output for unknown messages and diffs the on disk file index to the checkouts.current index. nothing unusal to report from that. > On freefall, those files have different checksums and are > different in a peculiar way. fwiw, cvsup5 also has the same exact files, so i suspect the master site is the source. perhaps including any 'magic' that cvsupd may be applying to 'peculiar ways'. along with figuring out the root cause... maybe increment the timestamps by a few seconds. maybe unpack both of them, lint check both for message count and mbox(5) format, concatenate, recheck for total message count and mbox(5) format, gzip to correct name standard and mirror. Software version: SNAP_16_1h Protocol version: 17.0 Operating system: FreeBSD4 /usr/local/bin/cvsup: libz.so.2 => /usr/lib/libz.so.2 (0x28220000) libutil.so.3 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.3 (0x2822d000) libmd.so.2 => /usr/lib/libmd.so.2 (0x28236000) libXaw.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libXaw.so.7 (0x2823f000) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x28292000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x282a7000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x282b4000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x282fd000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28306000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x2831d000) libm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libm.so.2 (0x283d9000) libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x283f4000) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/local/xfree86cvs20040412/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x2848e000) libXThrStub.so.6 => /usr/local/xfree86cvs20040412/lib/libXThrStub.so.6 (0x2849c000) MD5 (/usr/local/bin/cvsup) = d400f3fb17a23c6e3c92b25dd9b218ff 4.11-STABLE #0: Sun Jul 30 2006 i386 SMP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 26 05:05:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA8E16A415 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eazybsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web57901.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57901.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF28343D5E for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eazybsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28786 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Oct 2006 05:05:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=z54k3MZKieQNh1kyB/MPnOBR9VHlnIqC+Y90fJx4zYj/7kRkGcNofTmL2UQ7izLsIyYkrfMMq2Yg6ClEGKM3mb+9zHqXpNedraF1Q0Gi4G1Hbj0RmFWECTjzzngZUXvMet/rMzP0eFXiohjEVfg1HjaFt7YWWSdRSkBcD4T09GY= ; Message-ID: <20061026050520.28784.qmail@web57901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.189.183.148] by web57901.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:05:20 PDT Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: eazy bsd To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:44:55 +0000 Cc: Subject: docs/103730 [mail-archive]: duplicated file in mail archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:05:22 -0000 > From where are you downloading these files? cvsup11.freebsd.org. though it is experiencing gnats_misc_103814 at the moment so anyone using it will need to do so by its ip, 63.87.62.77. > Are you sure that the host you use to retrieve > these files is still up to date? yes. grabbing these supfile lines... *default compress delete use-rel-suffix mail-archive release=current prefix=freebsd_mail-archive from cvsup11 results in this evidence... ls -altT freebsd_mail-archive/archive | head -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 36721 Oct 25 23:01:19 2006 freebsd-advocacy -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 87904 Oct 25 22:52:20 2006 freebsd-mobile -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 21778 Oct 25 22:40:16 2006 freebsd-perl -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 1142032 Oct 25 22:36:55 2006 freebsd-ports-bugs -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 750956 Oct 25 22:36:39 2006 freebsd-stable date ; date -u Wed Oct 25 23:49:54 EDT 2006 Thu Oct 26 03:49:54 UTC 2006 to be sure, i nuked checkouts.current and the two files in question, did cvsup -x -L 2 cvsup11.freebsd.org and the result is exactly the same sums and dates as before. a local wrapper script also filters cvsup output for unknown messages and diffs the on disk file index to the checkouts.current index. nothing unusal to report from that. > On freefall, those files have different checksums and are > different in a peculiar way. fwiw, cvsup5 also has the same exact files, so i suspect the master site is the source. perhaps including any 'magic' that cvsupd may be applying to 'peculiar ways'. along with figuring out the root cause... maybe increment the timestamps by a few seconds. maybe unpack both of them, lint check both for message count and mbox(5) format, concatenate, recheck for total message count and mbox(5) format, gzip to correct name standard and mirror. Software version: SNAP_16_1h Protocol version: 17.0 Operating system: FreeBSD4 /usr/local/bin/cvsup: libz.so.2 => /usr/lib/libz.so.2 (0x28220000) libutil.so.3 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.3 (0x2822d000) libmd.so.2 => /usr/lib/libmd.so.2 (0x28236000) libXaw.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libXaw.so.7 (0x2823f000) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x28292000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x282a7000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x282b4000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x282fd000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28306000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x2831d000) libm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libm.so.2 (0x283d9000) libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x283f4000) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/local/xfree86cvs20040412/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x2848e000) libXThrStub.so.6 => /usr/local/xfree86cvs20040412/lib/libXThrStub.so.6 (0x2849c000) MD5 (/usr/local/bin/cvsup) = d400f3fb17a23c6e3c92b25dd9b218ff 4.11-STABLE #0: Sun Jul 30 2006 i386 SMP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 26 16:54:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9760F16A415; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (comp.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A734D43D6B; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:54:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9QGsmMB055327; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:54:48 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: (from yar@localhost) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id k9QGslgQ055326; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:54:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:54:47 +0400 From: Yar Tikhiy To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20061026165447.GC48810@comp.chem.msu.su> References: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> <453D1D14.1060000@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <453D1D14.1060000@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:54:52 -0000 On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 12:50:44PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Yar Tikhiy wrote: > >Hi folks, > > > >I wrote an article on our rc.d subsystem. Its draft in sgml and > >html is available at http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/rcng/ . It has > >been reviewed on freebsd-rc. Now I'd like to add it to our article > >collection. I see that I should commit the article itself, then > >update www/docs/books.sgml. What else? > > I would appreciate it if you'd also add a link to this article to the > sections of the handbook and the porter's handbook that refer to rc.d It's a very good idea, thanx! Done. > scripting. Your short name of rc-scripting is good. You could also > consider rc-scripts to save a couple bytes, but it's up to you. I'd committed it as rc-scripting just before your mail arrived :-) > I have a few suggestions: > > 1. In your first dummy script, you could write this: > > start_cmd="${name}_start" > > which makes copy and pasting of script elements easier. Done. > 2. In Section 3, note 1 that paragraph is still a little bit tough to > follow. I would simplify everything after "/etc/rc.d/dummy start" by > saying something like, "In order to be properly managed by the rc.d > system, these scripts need to be written using the /bin/sh language. > If you have a service or port that uses a binary, or a startup routine > written in another language, please install that element in > /usr/libexec (for the system) or /usr/local/libexec (for ports) and > call that with a /bin/sh script in the appropriate rc.d directory." OK, dropped the lengthy discussion of how to stuff a junk non-sh(1) script in rc.d. I didn't like it anyway. :-) Your wording looks better than mine. But finally I suggested sbin, not libexec, for strange startup programs because this follows the practice of having rndc, ntpdc, apachectl all in sbin. > 3. In note 2 you might want to mention /etc/network.subr. Done. > 4. In note 4 (and elsewhere) you refer to "methods" for rc.subr to > invoke. I'm not very comfortable with this term, and it sounds too C++ > to me. I would prefer the use of the term "function" which is both > literally true and closer to how sh scripting is usually described. > I'm not insisting that you change it, just stating a strong preference. I belive that the term "method" was adopted by the NetBSD folks. It's used all over rc.subr(8) manpage, and I just followed it. After all, the thing doesn't need to be a function because it's just a shell expression stored in a variable. I tried to use "handler" at first, but saw that "method" was already standard. > 5. In Section 4, note 4 you might want to expand your "Note:" > regarding prefixing the variables with ${name}. You might also want to Oops, failed to see how the ${name} issue applies to section 4, note 4. Could you provide an example? > include a note that the preferred style is that the name of the > script, the PROVIDE: in the script, the value of the name variable, > and the prefix for the rc.conf variables should all be the same. Done. > 6. In Section 6, note 1, including flags in command_args is not just a > bad idea, it's not allowed. It causes anything included in > ${name}_flags to be included twice, and is the source of a lot of > problems for users. It would be a good idea to expand on that point a > little. Perhaps I worded that paragraph poorly. I meant not ${name}_flags, but additional -foo flags the script may want to pass to $command, besides ${name}_flags. Probably I should use the term "options" instead. Just reworded the note. > 7. In the introduction to Section 7 you mention USE_RC_SUBR. That > might be a good place to link to the section in the Porter's Handbook > that covers its use. Done. > While this may seem like a lot of notes, I'd like to emphasize that > overall this is an excellent article, and very well written. Thank you > for contributing it! Thank you for your appreciation! I come to the idea that writing documentation can be a respected way to have fun, too! :-) -- Yar From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 26 19:12:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C889E16A494 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB5B543DAE for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:11:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 10125 invoked by uid 399); 26 Oct 2006 19:11:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.8?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2006 19:11:32 -0000 Message-ID: <4541085E.3010809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:11:26 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yar Tikhiy References: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> <453D1D14.1060000@FreeBSD.org> <20061026165447.GC48810@comp.chem.msu.su> In-Reply-To: <20061026165447.GC48810@comp.chem.msu.su> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:12:00 -0000 Note, I'm snipping the bits where we agree for brevity. Yar Tikhiy wrote: > I'd committed it as rc-scripting just before your mail arrived :-) Fair enough. > OK, dropped the lengthy discussion of how to stuff a junk non-sh(1) > script in rc.d. I didn't like it anyway. :-) Your wording looks > better than mine. But finally I suggested sbin, not libexec, for > strange startup programs because this follows the practice of having > rndc, ntpdc, apachectl all in sbin. No problem. Your reasoning is sound. >> 4. In note 4 (and elsewhere) you refer to "methods" for rc.subr to >> invoke. I'm not very comfortable with this term, and it sounds too C++ >> to me. I would prefer the use of the term "function" which is both >> literally true and closer to how sh scripting is usually described. >> I'm not insisting that you change it, just stating a strong preference. > > I belive that the term "method" was adopted by the NetBSD folks. Ewww, ick! :) I looked in Luke's original paper and didn't find it, but if that's the convention, so be it. >> 5. In Section 4, note 4 you might want to expand your "Note:" >> regarding prefixing the variables with ${name}. You might also want to > > Oops, failed to see how the ${name} issue applies to section 4, > note 4. Could you provide an example? It's the issue I describe below. Prefixing global (e.g., rc.conf) variables with the value of $name is not just a good idea, it's mandatory. >> include a note that the preferred style is that the name of the >> script, the PROVIDE: in the script, the value of the name variable, >> and the prefix for the rc.conf variables should all be the same. >> 6. In Section 6, note 1, including flags in command_args is not just a >> bad idea, it's not allowed. It causes anything included in >> ${name}_flags to be included twice, and is the source of a lot of >> problems for users. It would be a good idea to expand on that point a >> little. > > Perhaps I worded that paragraph poorly. I meant not ${name}_flags, > but additional -foo flags the script may want to pass to $command, > besides ${name}_flags. Probably I should use the term "options" > instead. Just reworded the note. Makes more sense now, thanks. >> While this may seem like a lot of notes, I'd like to emphasize that >> overall this is an excellent article, and very well written. Thank you >> for contributing it! > > Thank you for your appreciation! It's well deserved. :) > I come to the idea that writing > documentation can be a respected way to have fun, too! :-) Great, now spread the word! Seriously though, I find that I am forced to a greater understanding of the topic when I attempt to document something, so it's not just fun and useful to our users, it can help you as a developer as well. Thanks for taking the plunge! Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 26 22:48:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662CD16A40F; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (ns1.pittgoth.com [216.38.206.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B86043D70; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:47:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (net-ix.gw.ai.net [205.134.160.6] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9QMlkBa078528 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:47:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:47:38 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: eazy bsd Message-Id: <20061026184738.7ac9dd4c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20061026050520.28784.qmail@web57901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20061026050520.28784.qmail@web57901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/103730 [mail-archive]: duplicated file in mail archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:48:15 -0000 On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:05:20 -0700 (PDT) eazy bsd wrote: > > From where are you downloading these files? > > cvsup11.freebsd.org. though it is experiencing gnats_misc_103814 at the > moment > so anyone using it will need to do so by its ip, 63.87.62.77. > > > Are you sure that the host you use to retrieve > > these files is still up to date? > > yes. grabbing these supfile lines... > *default compress delete use-rel-suffix > mail-archive release=current prefix=freebsd_mail-archive > from cvsup11 results in this evidence... > > ls -altT freebsd_mail-archive/archive | head > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 36721 Oct 25 23:01:19 2006 > freebsd-advocacy > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 87904 Oct 25 22:52:20 2006 > freebsd-mobile > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 21778 Oct 25 22:40:16 2006 > freebsd-perl > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 1142032 Oct 25 22:36:55 2006 > freebsd-ports-bugs > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 750956 Oct 25 22:36:39 2006 > freebsd-stable > > date ; date -u > Wed Oct 25 23:49:54 EDT 2006 > Thu Oct 26 03:49:54 UTC 2006 > > to be sure, i nuked checkouts.current and the two files in question, > did > cvsup -x -L 2 cvsup11.freebsd.org and the result is exactly the same > sums and > dates as before. It would be nice if -x was documented in the cvsup manual page. Least in my version (cvsup-without-gui) it's missing. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 26 22:50:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC1316A416 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492C043D68 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:50:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9QMoOn3031279 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:50:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9QMoOF1031278; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:50:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:50:24 GMT Message-Id: <200610262250.k9QMoOF1031278@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Tom Rhodes Cc: Subject: Re: docs/103730 [mail-archive]: duplicated file in mail archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tom Rhodes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:50:25 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/103730; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: eazy bsd Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/103730 [mail-archive]: duplicated file in mail archive Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:47:38 -0400 On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:05:20 -0700 (PDT) eazy bsd wrote: > > From where are you downloading these files? > > cvsup11.freebsd.org. though it is experiencing gnats_misc_103814 at the > moment > so anyone using it will need to do so by its ip, 63.87.62.77. > > > Are you sure that the host you use to retrieve > > these files is still up to date? > > yes. grabbing these supfile lines... > *default compress delete use-rel-suffix > mail-archive release=current prefix=freebsd_mail-archive > from cvsup11 results in this evidence... > > ls -altT freebsd_mail-archive/archive | head > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 36721 Oct 25 23:01:19 2006 > freebsd-advocacy > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 87904 Oct 25 22:52:20 2006 > freebsd-mobile > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 21778 Oct 25 22:40:16 2006 > freebsd-perl > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 1142032 Oct 25 22:36:55 2006 > freebsd-ports-bugs > -rw-r--r-- 1 mirror mirror 750956 Oct 25 22:36:39 2006 > freebsd-stable > > date ; date -u > Wed Oct 25 23:49:54 EDT 2006 > Thu Oct 26 03:49:54 UTC 2006 > > to be sure, i nuked checkouts.current and the two files in question, > did > cvsup -x -L 2 cvsup11.freebsd.org and the result is exactly the same > sums and > dates as before. It would be nice if -x was documented in the cvsup manual page. Least in my version (cvsup-without-gui) it's missing. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 27 10:42:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1710416A403; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (comp.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D27643D72; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:42:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k9RAgQPl069388; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:42:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: (from yar@localhost) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id k9RAgQfK069387; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:42:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:42:25 +0400 From: Yar Tikhiy To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20061027104225.GD60061@comp.chem.msu.su> References: <20061015173531.GB31717@comp.chem.msu.su> <453D1D14.1060000@FreeBSD.org> <20061026165447.GC48810@comp.chem.msu.su> <4541085E.3010809@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4541085E.3010809@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:42:34 -0000 On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:11:26PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > > >>4. In note 4 (and elsewhere) you refer to "methods" for rc.subr to > >>invoke. I'm not very comfortable with this term, and it sounds too C++ > >>to me. I would prefer the use of the term "function" which is both > >>literally true and closer to how sh scripting is usually described. > >>I'm not insisting that you change it, just stating a strong preference. > > > >I belive that the term "method" was adopted by the NetBSD folks. > > Ewww, ick! :) I looked in Luke's original paper and didn't find it, > but if that's the convention, so be it. BTW, it appears to be Luke who committed the initial version of the rc.subr manpage to NetBSD, and "method" was already there. Frankly, it is a bit harsh to my ear, too, but now we have to live with it. Anyway it's better than having a babel of numerous terms for the same little thing. :-) > >>5. In Section 4, note 4 you might want to expand your "Note:" > >>regarding prefixing the variables with ${name}. You might also want to > > > >Oops, failed to see how the ${name} issue applies to section 4, > >note 4. Could you provide an example? > > It's the issue I describe below. Prefixing global (e.g., rc.conf) > variables with the value of $name is not just a good idea, it's > mandatory. Fixed, thanks. -- Yar From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 27 07:16:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6E516A47B for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eazybsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web57904.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57904.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 943D143D5F for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eazybsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 87483 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2006 07:16:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Q7gB1zz5+3lL0fhPtLuth1owVtAuQ2hDYfJhwqJYU4s2w09ycGYLdn756pQeEd5Mh5Te7gQkPfBhepTO8Cv6KCOPZ8PRyL4nTcxKbkntbdWEFGWN9N1meitXM2NEsA0tfwLzAyE3wBavTfLItrd1srZg9JeYW7U/ijIa3YkUwRM= ; Message-ID: <20061027071606.87481.qmail@web57904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.189.183.98] by web57904.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:16:06 PDT Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:16:06 -0700 (PDT) From: eazy bsd To: trhodes@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:05:43 +0000 Cc: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: document: cvsup -x X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:16:11 -0000 > It would be nice if -x was documented in the cvsup manual page. > Least in my version (cvsup-without-gui) it's missing. maybe open a pr for it if it doesn't turn up in a mail/pr search? it isn't really part of freebsd though. i don't know modula3 so my recent two minute eyeball of the source didn't turn up exactly when to use it and how it works. its presence or absence doesn't affect the mail issue. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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(dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2006 22:02:31 -0000 Message-ID: <454281F6.2060302@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:02:30 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cristian KLEIN References: <453CD37B.3080909@net.utcluj.ro> <453D533F.9020301@FreeBSD.org> <453DC6CA.60304@net.utcluj.ro> <20061024133401.51158add.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <453E7437.1080300@net.utcluj.ro> <20061024180748.4adc6f12.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <453E9E7B.4050801@net.utcluj.ro> In-Reply-To: <453E9E7B.4050801@net.utcluj.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Want to help with handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:02:33 -0000 Cristian KLEIN wrote: > I haven't really understood your question, but I hope the following info > will answer it. > > Originally, ipfw requires netif, while ipf is before netif. This places > ipfw explicitly after ipf. I honestly have absolutely no idea why the > dependencies are like this. This would be a good issue to bring up on freebsd-rc@. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 28 07:27:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8E416A415; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:27:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436CC43D46; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:27:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9S7RJMU007253; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:27:19 GMT (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9S7RIw9007249; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:27:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from brueffer) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:27:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200610280727.k9S7RIw9007249@freefall.freebsd.org> To: henrik@brixandersen.dk, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/104865: [patch] Mention Soekris net48xx in sis(4) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:27:19 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] Mention Soekris net48xx in sis(4) man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Sat Oct 28 09:26:59 CEST 2006 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=104865 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 28 07:30:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776AC16A407 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470D143D46 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:30:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9S7UQ4g007465 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:30:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9S7UQCx007463; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:30:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:30:26 GMT Message-Id: <200610280730.k9S7UQCx007463@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/104865: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:30:26 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/104865; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/104865: commit references a PR Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:27:09 +0000 (UTC) brueffer 2006-10-28 07:26:50 UTC FreeBSD src repository Modified files: share/man/man4 sis.4 Log: Document Soekris net48xx support. PR: docs/104865 Submitted by: Henrik Brix Andersen Revision Changes Path 1.24 +2 -2 src/share/man/man4/sis.4 _______________________________________________ cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 28 12:10:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE9816A403 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0966743D5D for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:10:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9SCAOKD030558 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:10:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9SCAOUW030557; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:10:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:10:24 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200610281210.k9SCAOUW030557@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Sergey Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216DC16A412 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33FB43D49 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:07:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9SC7HnW038330 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:07:17 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9SC7Hfj038329; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:07:17 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200610281207.k9SC7Hfj038329@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:07:17 GMT From: Sergey To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.0 Cc: Subject: docs/104879: Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:10:31 -0000 >Number: 104879 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 28 12:10:24 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sergey >Release: >Organization: TSU >Environment: >Description: http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39412 Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on your FreeBSD box I hope this howto will spare someone the headache it caused me this afternoon. So you have a .wav file from your voicemail system (or wherever) that you discover is in IMA ADPCM format. Code: user@someplace$ file VoiceMsg.wav VoiceMsg.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, IMA ADPCM, mono 8000 Hz Install two ports: * /usr/ports/audio/sox * /usr/ports/audio/adpcm Now use sox to convert it to a suitable format. In my case I chose: Code: user@someplace$ sox -i VoiceMsg.wav -s out.wav The -s option created a MS PCM file for me, but do whatever you'd like. See sox man pages for many more options, of course. P.S. This was tested and confirmed on a FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE box. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: