From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 4 05:51:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9007716A4C8 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE3043D7C for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:51:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.62 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1FmlWN-0008t9-1s by authid for ; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 08:51:31 +0300 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 08:51:31 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060604055131.GC14207@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Bad newbie experience with Nagios X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 05:51:43 -0000 Hi List, I am ashamed going to ask the question on Nagios list, so I decided I=20 could ask here as well, since we have people using nagios here already. I have installed nagios-2.3.1, and nagios-plugins-1.4.3 on my 5.4-STABLE=20 box, via the ports. I believe I have read some very good documentation=20 after googling also. I almost feel confident configuring it, but I feel so stupid that it's not working as expected. I have defined some services, but all I get tends to suggest that these=20 hosts are down, while for sure they are not. How do I solve the problem of "CRITICAL - You need more args!!!", as that is what appears in all the reports sent to the contacts? I have manually tried running the commands, with the correct args and the clue I get leaves me clueless ;) For example, the check-host-alive command: warta# /usr/local/libexec/nagios/check_ping -H 62.8.64.6 -4 -w 3000.0,80% -= c 5000.0,100% -p 1 CRITICAL - You need more args!!! Could not open pipe: Now I am wondering whether "check_ping" has a problem, and whether it's the right plugin for checking if host is alive.... What would be my mistake if I used check_icmp command to see if host is=20 alive? Well, what is the solution to "Could not open pipe", if any? -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html DISCLAIMER: See http://www.wananchi.com/bms/terms.php -- +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ "At least they're ___________=08=08=08=08=08=08=08=08=08=08=08EXPERIENCED i= ncompetents" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 4 10:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2905E16A476 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@bsam.ru) Received: from mail.kuban.ru (mail.kuban.ru [62.183.66.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7129143D46 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:11:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@bsam.ru) Received: from bsam.ru ([83.239.48.135]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id k54AAs0h011730; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:11:04 +0400 (MSD) Received: from bsam by bsam.ru with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FmpYa-0000EA-T4; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:10:04 +0400 To: Odhiambo Washington References: <20060604055131.GC14207@ns2.wananchi.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:10:04 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20060604055131.GC14207@ns2.wananchi.com> (Odhiambo Washington's message of "Sun, 4 Jun 2006 08:51:31 +0300") Message-ID: <62057235@ho.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: "Boris B. Samorodov" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bad newbie experience with Nagios X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 10:12:10 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 08:51:31 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have manually tried running the commands, with the correct args and > the clue I get leaves me clueless ;) > For example, the check-host-alive command: > warta# /usr/local/libexec/nagios/check_ping -H 62.8.64.6 -4 -w 3000.0,80% -c 5000.0,100% -p 1 > CRITICAL - You need more args!!! > Could not open pipe: It works here: $ /usr/local/libexec/nagios/check_ping -H 62.8.64.6 -4 -w 3000.0,80% -c 5000.0,100% -p 1 PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 642.54 ms $ uname -srm FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE i386 You may try to use ktrace/strace or else to diagnose the problem. WBR -- Boris B. Samorodov, Research Engineer InPharmTech Co, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet Service Provider From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 4 15:07:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A420016A6F4 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0140E43D62 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.62 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1FmuCb-0008VQ-FO by authid for ; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:07:41 +0300 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 18:07:41 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060604150741.GB12999@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20060604055131.GC14207@ns2.wananchi.com> <62057235@ho.ipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <62057235@ho.ipt.ru> X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: Bad newbie experience with Nagios X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:07:53 -0000 * On 04/06/06 14:10 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: | On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 08:51:31 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: | | > I have manually tried running the commands, with the correct args and | > the clue I get leaves me clueless ;) | | > For example, the check-host-alive command: | | > warta# /usr/local/libexec/nagios/check_ping -H 62.8.64.6 -4 -w 3000.0,80% -c 5000.0,100% -p 1 | > CRITICAL - You need more args!!! | > Could not open pipe: | | It works here: | $ /usr/local/libexec/nagios/check_ping -H 62.8.64.6 -4 -w 3000.0,80% -c 5000.0,100% -p 1 | PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 642.54 ms | $ uname -srm | FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE i386 | | You may try to use ktrace/strace or else to diagnose the problem. Got it after some fiddling with strace! The problem is caused by the compile option - WITH_IPV6=1. If you compile with this option, you need to have at least ::1 defined in /etc/hosts. Stupid me! Why did I even enable it when I don't use IPv6? ;) -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html DISCLAIMER: See http://www.wananchi.com/bms/terms.php -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ Cold, adj.: When the politicians walk around with their hands in their own pockets. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 07:23:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD3E16A903 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 07:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from relay.introweb.nl (relay.introweb.nl [80.65.96.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D6643D48 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 07:20:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from smtp.introweb.nl (frontend1.mailcluster.introweb.intern [192.168.4.31]) by relay3.introweb.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24ADC392A for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:20:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.26] (mail.introweb.net [80.65.97.195]) by frontend1.mailcluster.introweb.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CBA1BAC16 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:22:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:21:21 +0200 From: Robin Elfrink User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 07:23:17 -0000 Hi, I have a system with hardware raid, which has had some hardware troubles. The state this machine is in is now: The raid configuration is OK, but the filesystem somehow broke seriously. If I mount it under FreeBSD 5.4 (which is wat the system was running at the time) it completely _hangs_ (not even kernel panic) when accessing certain directories. Under 6.x not everything is OK, but at least the system does not hang. Now the problem is that I lost some directory trees, and I am looking for ways to see if I recover them. The obvious first step would be fsck, but the fs is so broken it gives me: root@:~# fsck /dev/da0s1f ** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead root@:~# df -h /dev/da0s1f Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1f 64G -58T 58T -100219% /var/disk Google did not help much, has anybody any clue to how I can get fsck to run properly? Robin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 12:50:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE5616A67C for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 12:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh2.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750C443D46 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 12:50:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from webmail.centtech.com (mailbox.centtech.com [10.20.0.15]) by mh2.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k56CofRM094539; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 07:50:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from 10.20.200.100 (SquirrelMail authenticated user anderson); by otter.centtech.com with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 07:50:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> In-Reply-To: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 07:50:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Eric Anderson" To: "Robin Elfrink" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1514/Mon Jun 5 15:21:02 2006 on mh2.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:50:45 -0000 Robin Elfrink said: > > Hi, > > > I have a system with hardware raid, which has had some hardware troubles. > > The state this machine is in is now: The raid configuration is OK, but > the filesystem somehow broke seriously. If I mount it under FreeBSD 5.4 > (which is wat the system was running at the time) it completely _hangs_ > (not even kernel panic) when accessing certain directories. Under 6.x > not everything is OK, but at least the system does not hang. > > Now the problem is that I lost some directory trees, and I am looking > for ways to see if I recover them. The obvious first step would be fsck, > but the fs is so broken it gives me: > > root@:~# fsck /dev/da0s1f > ** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) > cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead > > root@:~# df -h /dev/da0s1f > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1f 64G -58T 58T -100219% /var/disk > > Google did not help much, has anybody any clue to how I can get fsck to > run properly? Have you tried using fsck_ffs and specifying an alternate superblock? (say 160) Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Anderson anderson@centtech.com Centaur Technology You have my continuous partial attention ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 12:57:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363FD16AA35 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 12:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from relay.introweb.nl (relay.introweb.nl [80.65.96.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AAA43D48 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 12:57:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from smtp.introweb.nl (frontend2.mailcluster.introweb.intern [192.168.4.32]) by relay4.introweb.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51B233C041; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.26] (mail.introweb.net [80.65.97.195]) by frontend2.mailcluster.introweb.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E317012; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:59:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:57:08 +0200 From: Robin Elfrink User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> In-Reply-To: <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:57:12 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: >>root@:~# fsck /dev/da0s1f >>** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) >>cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead > Have you tried using fsck_ffs and specifying an alternate superblock? > (say 160) Yes: root@:~# fsck_ffs -b 160 /dev/da0s1f Alternate super block location: 160 ** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead Same error. Something is so badly wrong that fsck wants to allocate a very big amount of memory. I more or less have given up on the illusion of getting data back (that shows 'em, not letting me have a proper backup system), but still it's annoying not knowing what is going on and how to fix it. Robin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 13:12:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0447916AB07 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh2.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C91943D45 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:12:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from webmail.centtech.com (mailbox.centtech.com [10.20.0.15]) by mh2.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k56DCUDV098079; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:12:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from 10.20.200.100 (SquirrelMail authenticated user anderson); by otter.centtech.com with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:12:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> In-Reply-To: <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:12:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Eric Anderson" To: "Robin Elfrink" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1514/Mon Jun 5 15:21:02 2006 on mh2.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:12:37 -0000 Robin Elfrink said: > Eric Anderson wrote: > >>>root@:~# fsck /dev/da0s1f >>>** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) >>>cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead > > >> Have you tried using fsck_ffs and specifying an alternate superblock? >> (say 160) > > Yes: > > root@:~# fsck_ffs -b 160 /dev/da0s1f > Alternate super block location: 160 > ** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) > cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead > > Same error. Something is so badly wrong that fsck wants to allocate a > very big amount of memory. > > I more or less have given up on the illusion of getting data back (that > shows 'em, not letting me have a proper backup system), but still it's > annoying not knowing what is going on and how to fix it. > > > Robin > You could go in with fsdb and fix the parts manually, but it wouldn't be simple. You might also try a 'preen' first - not sure if that will do anything different. Also - this fs is not currently mounted at all, right? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Anderson anderson@centtech.com Centaur Technology You have my continuous partial attention ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 13:21:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F75B16B1A5 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from joseph.day-light.net (gabriel.day-light.net [209.145.160.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F005743D48 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:21:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from w1 (w1 [10.1.5.201]) by joseph.day-light.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 56C5A4F416; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:21:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Brooks" To: "Robin Elfrink" , Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: john@day-light.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:21:54 -0000 how does the rest of the disk look? is the math correct when you run "disklabel da0"? -- John Brooks john@day-light.com ... > > root@:~# df -h /dev/da0s1f > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1f 64G -58T 58T -100219% /var/disk > ... From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 14:50:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7852A16BD81 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from relay.introweb.nl (relay.introweb.nl [80.65.96.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF8B43D45 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:50:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from smtp.introweb.nl (frontend1.mailcluster.introweb.intern [192.168.4.31]) by relay3.introweb.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBB0C382A; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:50:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.26] (mail.introweb.net [80.65.97.195]) by frontend1.mailcluster.introweb.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB41C1BAC11; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:52:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44859643.6030005@introweb.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:50:43 +0200 From: Robin Elfrink User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> In-Reply-To: <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:50:55 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > You could go in with fsdb and fix the parts manually, but it wouldn't be > simple. You might also try a 'preen' first - not sure if that will do > anything different. Also - this fs is not currently mounted at all, > right? I have no experience with fsdb, so that will take some time for me to read the manuals. The filesystem was mounted read-only just then, but fsck_uff -b 160 /dev/da0s1f only says it copies the block, and leaves the filesystem dirty. root@:~# fsck_ffs -b 160 /dev/da0s1f Alternate super block location: 160 ** /dev/da0s1f cannot alloc 188446744067446403432 bytes for inphead UPDATE STANDART SUPERBLOCK? [yn] y ***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY ***** I tried with several backup copies (as newfs -N said it would make; this is a standard install with no fs optimizations). All with the same result. Robin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 14:55:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486AA16C86B for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from relay.introweb.nl (relay.introweb.nl [80.65.96.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2647643D46 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:55:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from smtp.introweb.nl (frontend2.mailcluster.introweb.intern [192.168.4.32]) by relay4.introweb.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A2A33C069; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:55:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.26] (mail.introweb.net [80.65.97.195]) by frontend2.mailcluster.introweb.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5F21701F; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:57:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4485975C.9090209@introweb.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:55:24 +0200 From: Robin Elfrink User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john@day-light.com References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:55:59 -0000 John Brooks wrote: > how does the rest of the disk look? is the math correct > when you run "disklabel da0"? 'disklabel da0' says 'no valid label found'. Did you mean da0s1 ? root@:~# disklabel da0s1 # /dev/da0s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 2046640 524288 swap c: 142335837 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part. don't edit d: 524288 2570928 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 e: 524288 3095216 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 f: 138716333 3619504 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 Looks OK to me. Robin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 15:35:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FA116AD40 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 15:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1C843D49 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 15:28:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from webmail.centtech.com (mailbox.centtech.com [10.20.0.15]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k56FSZcj036710; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:28:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from 10.20.200.100 (SquirrelMail authenticated user anderson); by otter.centtech.com with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:28:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <49874.10.20.200.100.1149607715.squirrel@10.20.200.100> In-Reply-To: <44859643.6030005@introweb.nl> References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44859643.6030005@introweb.nl> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:28:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Eric Anderson" To: "Robin Elfrink" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1514/Mon Jun 5 15:21:02 2006 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:35:19 -0000 Robin Elfrink said: > Eric Anderson wrote: > >> You could go in with fsdb and fix the parts manually, but it wouldn't be >> simple. You might also try a 'preen' first - not sure if that will do >> anything different. Also - this fs is not currently mounted at all, >> right? > > I have no experience with fsdb, so that will take some time for me to > read the manuals. > > The filesystem was mounted read-only just then, but fsck_uff -b 160 > /dev/da0s1f only says it copies the block, and leaves the filesystem > dirty. > > root@:~# fsck_ffs -b 160 /dev/da0s1f > Alternate super block location: 160 > ** /dev/da0s1f > cannot alloc 188446744067446403432 bytes for inphead > > UPDATE STANDART SUPERBLOCK? [yn] y > > > ***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY ***** > > > I tried with several backup copies (as newfs -N said it would make; this > is a standard install with no fs optimizations). All with the same result. > > > Robin And then after that, you tried the regular: fsck_ffs -y /dev/da0s1f ? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Anderson anderson@centtech.com Centaur Technology You have my continuous partial attention ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 6 17:36:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DE916BF21 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from relay.introweb.nl (relay.introweb.nl [80.65.96.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE5043D46 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:36:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from smtp.introweb.nl (frontend2.mailcluster.introweb.intern [192.168.4.32]) by relay4.introweb.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA2633C059; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 19:36:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.42.27] (thuis.brouwen.nl [80.65.119.253]) by frontend2.mailcluster.introweb.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32ACB17010; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 19:38:15 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <49874.10.20.200.100.1149607715.squirrel@10.20.200.100> References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44859643.6030005@introweb.nl> <49874.10.20.200.100.1149607715.squirrel@10.20.200.100> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Robin Elfrink Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 19:36:08 +0200 To: Eric Anderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:36:18 -0000 On 6-jun-2006, at 17:28, Eric Anderson wrote: >> root@:~# fsck_ffs -b 160 /dev/da0s1f > And then after that, you tried the regular: > > fsck_ffs -y /dev/da0s1f Yes, with the same error about bytes needed for inphead. Something wicked must have happened to the filesystem when the hardware raid failed one disk too many. What surprised me most is that FreeBSD 5.4 simply stops doing anything at all at a certain point. Maybe I should find a 4.x disk and see what fsck gives me. This partition would be an interesting one for filesystem developers, if only there weren't all those private mailboxes on it :) Robin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 7 13:15:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A809216DC63 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from relay.introweb.nl (relay.introweb.nl [80.65.96.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4455843D46 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:21:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from smtp.introweb.nl (frontend1.mailcluster.introweb.intern [192.168.4.31]) by relay3.introweb.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67319C3849; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:21:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.26] (mail.introweb.net [80.65.97.195]) by frontend1.mailcluster.introweb.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554841BAC11; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:23:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4486C4DA.6080905@introweb.nl> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:21:46 +0200 From: Robin Elfrink User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> In-Reply-To: <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:16:08 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: >>>>root@:~# fsck /dev/da0s1f >>>>** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) >>>>cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead > You could go in with fsdb and fix the parts manually, but it wouldn't be root@:~# fsdb /dev/da0s1f ** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead fsdb: cannot set up file system '/dev/da0s1f' Following is in fsck's setup.c: inphead = (struct inoinfo **)calloc((unsigned)numdirs, sizeof(struct inoinfo *)); if (inpsort == NULL || inphead == NULL) { printf("cannot alloc %u bytes for inphead\n", (unsigned)numdirs * sizeof(struct inoinfo *)); goto badsb; } So I suppose somehow the number of directories somewhere is over the top. I'm afraid the only thing left is to do hexedit on the disk... Robin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 7 15:18:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F0816D62B for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E39B43D46 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:15:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k57DFtWQ043245; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 08:15:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4486D193.3000801@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 08:16:03 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060506) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robin Elfrink References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <4486C4DA.6080905@introweb.nl> In-Reply-To: <4486C4DA.6080905@introweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1517/Tue Jun 6 19:05:07 2006 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:18:16 -0000 Robin Elfrink wrote: > Eric Anderson wrote: > >>>>> root@:~# fsck /dev/da0s1f >>>>> ** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) >>>>> cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead > > >> You could go in with fsdb and fix the parts manually, but it wouldn't be > > root@:~# fsdb /dev/da0s1f > ** /dev/da0s1f (NO WRITE) > cannot alloc 18446744067446403432 bytes for inphead > fsdb: cannot set up file system '/dev/da0s1f' > > > Following is in fsck's setup.c: > > inphead = (struct inoinfo **)calloc((unsigned)numdirs, > sizeof(struct inoinfo *)); > if (inpsort == NULL || inphead == NULL) { > printf("cannot alloc %u bytes for inphead\n", > (unsigned)numdirs * sizeof(struct inoinfo *)); > goto badsb; > } > > > So I suppose somehow the number of directories somewhere is over the > top. I'm afraid the only thing left is to do hexedit on the disk... > > > Robin Can you run dumpfs on it, and put the output somewhere accessible on the web? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 7 16:58:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BDB16C779 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from relay.introweb.nl (relay.introweb.nl [80.65.96.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CED43D45 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:21:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elfrink@introweb.nl) Received: from smtp.introweb.nl (frontend2.mailcluster.introweb.intern [192.168.4.32]) by relay4.introweb.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1680D33C03C; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:21:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.26] (mail.introweb.net [80.65.97.195]) by frontend2.mailcluster.introweb.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809A21701A; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:23:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4486E0F2.8080809@introweb.nl> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:21:38 +0200 From: Robin Elfrink User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <44852CF1.5070300@introweb.nl> <62208.10.20.200.100.1149598242.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <44857BA4.90405@introweb.nl> <56782.10.20.200.100.1149599550.squirrel@10.20.200.100> <4486C4DA.6080905@introweb.nl> <4486D193.3000801@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4486D193.3000801@centtech.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovery from disk+fs crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:58:51 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > Can you run dumpfs on it, and put the output somewhere accessible on the > web? Yes, here it is: http://eddy.introweb.nl/~robin/dump/ File da0s1f.dump is the output from 'dumpfs /dev/da0s1f', dumpfs.core is the result of dumpfs dumping core. 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If the message below did originate from your computer, then you should check it for a virus. >From freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Thu Jun 8 08:49:37 2006 Received: from arxiv.org ([220.117.137.241]) by xxx.arxiv.cornell.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k58CnUm9024662 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 08:49:35 -0400 From: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org To: www-admin@arxiv.org Subject: Mail Delivery (failure www-admin@arxiv.org) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:49:37 +0900 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 8 17:30:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8665D16CB4C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meshbah@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E643D55 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from meshbah@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id h2so718968ugf for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:48:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=L2qoD3z1JZ7nahpdssmYcjIKTHtC7VUd3Ran7fpBJ3Cr4cWe4EqL1lJExT/5rIpTbgVsYAK9fispsD7c0gEIL8O1mluVulTvTyeuLiPhVcbPXf/FQCVMJ1/wXYAOYVn8quWkJHlIRMktZ1nrqQ6Hlo1pYf80v2cK3HradvIjCWs= Received: by 10.67.15.3 with SMTP id s3mr1576007ugi; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.93.4 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 07:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:47:21 +0600 From: "Meshbah Uddin Ahmed" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sendmail + virtusertable X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:30:07 -0000 i have installed sendmail with mailertable and virtusertable. i m facing prb- in virtusertable- @abc.com xyz@yahoo.com so, when i send mail to abc@abc.com it sends to xyz@yahoo.com but when i send mail abc@abc.com with cc xyz@abc.com it only sends 1st email id- abc@abc.com, not xyz@abc.com where is my prb??? can u pls fix it? Meshbah From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 8 23:27:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC5416A478 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreamer@xdsl.cherkassy.net) Received: from mail.xdsl.cherkassy.net (xlan.net.ua [195.5.42.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AEA43D69 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:27:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dreamer@xdsl.cherkassy.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xdsl.cherkassy.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.xdsl.cherkassy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90019B952 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 02:27:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.xdsl.cherkassy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.xdsl.cherkassy.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12817-01 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 02:27:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xlan7413f976be (unknown [10.90.12.78]) by mail.xdsl.cherkassy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 02:27:30 +0300 (EEST) From: =?koi8-r?B?98zBxMnNydIg8MHXzMXOy88=?= To: Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 02:27:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcaJj90iTfCww5LQToWjE/NwSl413wBwfq1w In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xdsl.cherkassy.net Message-Id: <20060608232732.90019B952@mail.xdsl.cherkassy.net> Subject: Squid Error on POST X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:27:30 -0000 When POSTing big form I just get such error While trying to retrieve the URL: http://win.mail.ru/cgi-bin/sendmsg The following error was encountered: Read Error The system returned: (60) Operation timed out An error condition occurred while reading data from the network. Please retry your request. The part of config is: acl xdsl src 10.80.0.0/16 acl adsl src 10.90.0.0/16 tcp_outgoing_address IP_1 xdsl tcp_outgoing_address IP_2 adsl http_access allow xdsl adsl It happened when we changed primary ISP. On IP_1 everything works fine. On IP_2 - troubles. Without proxying works fine on IP_1 and IP_2. Proxying is transparent. Using ipfw2. Please help. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 9 12:23:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D41A16A41B for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh2.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72B543D70 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:23:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh2.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k59CNZjr072619; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 07:23:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <44896850.3040904@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 07:23:44 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060506) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Meshbah Uddin Ahmed References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1523/Fri Jun 9 02:10:10 2006 on mh2.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail + virtusertable X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:23:36 -0000 Meshbah Uddin Ahmed wrote: > i have installed sendmail with mailertable and virtusertable. i m facing > prb- > > in virtusertable- > > @abc.com xyz@yahoo.com > > so, when i send mail to abc@abc.com it sends to xyz@yahoo.com > but when i send mail abc@abc.com with cc xyz@abc.com it only sends 1st > email > id- abc@abc.com, not xyz@abc.com > > where is my prb??? can u pls fix it? Since it's going to the same destination mailbox, sendmail removes duplicates automatically. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 9 13:20:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1681416A41A for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from biodiesel.gaiahost.coop (biodiesel.gaiahost.coop [64.95.78.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B3843D73 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from gaiahost.coop (host-64-65-195-19.spr.choiceone.net [::ffff:64.65.195.19]) (AUTH: LOGIN mark@hubcapconsulting.com) by biodiesel.gaiahost.coop with esmtp; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:20:25 -0400 id 006E41E0.44897599.00000F15 Received: by gaiahost.coop (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:20:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:20:28 -0400 From: Mark Bucciarelli To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: "smart" switch recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:20:26 -0000 We are looking to buy a new smart (aka a dumbed-down managed) switch. I read the recent Tom's Hardware review [1] of the Netgear FS728TS, and price- and feature-wise it looks like what we need EXCEPT THAT the setup utility is Windows-only and the web gui doesn't display properly in Firefox, two show-stoppers for us. Any recommendations? m [1] http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/03/13/netgear_fs728ts/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 9 14:12:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1828C16A419 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99A043D72 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:12:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k59ECaQu007988 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:12:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <448981DD.7000300@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:12:45 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060506) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> In-Reply-To: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1523/Fri Jun 9 02:10:10 2006 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: "smart" switch recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:12:37 -0000 Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > We are looking to buy a new smart (aka a dumbed-down managed) > switch. > > I read the recent Tom's Hardware review [1] of the Netgear > FS728TS, and price- and feature-wise it looks like what we need > EXCEPT THAT the setup utility is Windows-only and the web gui > doesn't display properly in Firefox, two show-stoppers for us. > > Any recommendations? > > m > > [1] http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/03/13/netgear_fs728ts/ The netgear products we've used are mediocre at best. We've been buying a lot of Dell switches, and they seem to be pretty decent. They might be a bit more expensive though. With managed switches, you often get what you pay for. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 9 14:51:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FB916A418 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:51:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon.otterholm@ide.resurscentrum.se) Received: from mail1.cil.se (mail1.cil.se [217.197.56.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB9943D8F for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:51:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.otterholm@ide.resurscentrum.se) Received: from [192.168.2.10] ([192.168.2.10]) by mail1.cil.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:51:47 +0200 Message-ID: <44898B03.1090002@ide.resurscentrum.se> Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:51:47 +0200 From: Jon Otterholm User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060204) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> <448981DD.7000300@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <448981DD.7000300@centtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2006 14:51:47.0446 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B83D160:01C68BD4] Subject: Re: "smart" switch recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:51:50 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > Mark Bucciarelli wrote: >> We are looking to buy a new smart (aka a dumbed-down managed) >> switch. >> >> I read the recent Tom's Hardware review [1] of the Netgear >> FS728TS, and price- and feature-wise it looks like what we need >> EXCEPT THAT the setup utility is Windows-only and the web gui >> doesn't display properly in Firefox, two show-stoppers for us. >> >> Any recommendations? >> m >> >> [1] http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/03/13/netgear_fs728ts/ > > > The netgear products we've used are mediocre at best. We've been > buying a lot of Dell switches, and they seem to be pretty decent. > They might be a bit more expensive though. > > With managed switches, you often get what you pay for. not allways, sometimes less and sometimes more. > > Eric > > > For standard managed switches we use Dlink and HP. Dlink 3526/3550 and HP 2600 have the most in functionality for the SMB access layer at an unbeatable cost. We also use Dlink DGS3324SR on some backbone sites where Gigabit, JumboFrame and >250 802.1Q are required. /Jon From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 9 15:05:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4B916A41A for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E77943D98 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:05:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751A65DF9 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:05:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id atuQvkUxpT-k for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-160-201-170.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.201.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852875C45 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44898EAF.7060307@mac.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:07:27 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> In-Reply-To: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: "smart" switch recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:05:49 -0000 Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > We are looking to buy a new smart (aka a dumbed-down managed) > switch. The HP Procurve line and the 3com SuperStack II/III lines are both pretty good. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 9 17:10:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DB516A418 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericx@vineyard.net) Received: from smtp1.vineyard.net (a1.vineyard.net [204.17.195.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB67143D73 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:10:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ericx@vineyard.net) Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C53A1581896 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.vineyard.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ace1.vineyard.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 33418-01-100 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.17.195.104] (fortiva.vineyard.net [204.17.195.104]) by smtp1.vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83D81581807 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4489AB59.2000703@vineyard.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:09:45 -0400 From: "Eric W. Bates" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> In-Reply-To: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ace1 at Vineyard.NET Subject: Re: "smart" switch recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:10:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > We are looking to buy a new smart (aka a dumbed-down managed) > switch. > > I read the recent Tom's Hardware review [1] of the Netgear > FS728TS, and price- and feature-wise it looks like what we need > EXCEPT THAT the setup utility is Windows-only and the web gui > doesn't display properly in Firefox, two show-stoppers for us. > > Any recommendations? > > m We've been very happy with Baystacks. Used 350 and 450's can be purchased inexpensively on e-bay. Configuration is via serial port, telnet or a java applet. The java applet has been flakey on my FBSD workstation; but I haven't tried it in a while. Config file, unfortunately, is a binary. > [1] http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/03/13/netgear_fs728ts/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > - -- Eric W. Bates ericx@vineyard.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEiatZD1roJTQ4LlERApLpAJ4sLgAeFMWVrNyLo0KA3vZjVAbRYQCdFAU+ OU3msY1RGLFeiU6I6GB8EQ8= =3C1I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 10 19:33:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B85116A41F for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulf@alameda.net) Received: from mail.alameda.net (mail.alameda.net [64.81.53.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42B443D80 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:33:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulf@alameda.net) Received: by mail.alameda.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D99F33D0C; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:32:57 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Jon Otterholm Message-ID: <20060610193256.GS45191@evil.alameda.net> References: <20060609132028.GB468@rabbit> <448981DD.7000300@centtech.com> <44898B03.1090002@ide.resurscentrum.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44898B03.1090002@ide.resurscentrum.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-ANI-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ANI-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ANI-MailScanner-From: ulf@alameda.net Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "smart" switch recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:33:02 -0000 On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 04:51:47PM +0200, Jon Otterholm wrote: > Eric Anderson wrote: > >Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > >>We are looking to buy a new smart (aka a dumbed-down managed) > >>switch. > >> > >>I read the recent Tom's Hardware review [1] of the Netgear > >>FS728TS, and price- and feature-wise it looks like what we need > >>EXCEPT THAT the setup utility is Windows-only and the web gui > >>doesn't display properly in Firefox, two show-stoppers for us. > >> > >>Any recommendations? > >>m > >> > >>[1] http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/03/13/netgear_fs728ts/ > > > > > >The netgear products we've used are mediocre at best. We've been > >buying a lot of Dell switches, and they seem to be pretty decent. > >They might be a bit more expensive though. > > > >With managed switches, you often get what you pay for. > not allways, sometimes less and sometimes more. > > > >Eric > > > > > > > For standard managed switches we use Dlink and HP. Dlink 3526/3550 and > HP 2600 have the most in functionality for the SMB access layer at an > unbeatable cost. > We also use Dlink DGS3324SR on some backbone sites where Gigabit, > JumboFrame and >250 802.1Q are required. I like the HP ProCurve 2626 and 2650. The 2626 is less then $500 for us at CDW and it is fully managed. The only thing I don't like is that HP does monitoring a port only 1 way, so you always have to monitor 2 ports to get all traffic. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://seven.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html