From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 1 03:09:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8467116A41F for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 03:09:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmidaemon@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7DF43D55 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 03:09:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmidaemon@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so218045wxc for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:09:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IYTKgs+fmttJsS1vQKHcB9wHAjqYr1lFvQctQQLmMpe1I0GozP1PxrUxj8XFLOonWOvY7JdXt75zD5mIMIJhfJd/AYd0Jxn3haGq4PyX8/jKUPL5kEzbT2qep27AjyKY29NIQbgxHJ/t3ss+Ojmr153kEb2VXDEAswQsHOza1Lk= Received: by 10.70.131.11 with SMTP id e11mr11202649wxd; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.10.100? ( [70.20.117.58]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i11sm5659814wxd.2005.12.31.19.09.21; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:09:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43B747DF.8070303@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:09:19 -0500 From: Jeff Isaac User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Any Updates on RS/6000 Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 03:09:22 -0000 Hello! I was just wondering whether there had been any developments regarding new plans for RS6k support? I found a brief exchange in the archives from March of 2004 saying that there were no plans to support this architecture. Has this changed at all? I would like to commend you folks on porting to the Mac/PPC systems as Apple will soon be abandoning we PowerPC devotees, however, looking forward, those of us wishing to stay with the hardware platform may be forced to go RS/6000 barring the arrival of any new hardware developers. I like AIX and all (it was my first UNIX) but it would be nice to be able to run my favourite BSD on it! :-D Thanks! - Jeff From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 2 08:44:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E853716A41F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 08:44:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C38C43D45 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 08:44:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.18.111] (CPE-18-111.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.18.111]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5614F19FB73; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:44:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <43B8E7DC.7060004@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:44:12 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Isaac References: <43B747DF.8070303@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43B747DF.8070303@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any Updates on RS/6000 Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 08:44:16 -0000 Hi Jeff, > I was just wondering whether there had been any developments > regarding new plans for RS6k support? Sorry, no news. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 3 04:04:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BFE16A41F for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 04:04:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127D143D55 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 04:04:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k034443a055036; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:04:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k034446Y055035; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:04:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:04:04 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jeff Isaac Message-ID: <20060103040404.GC54882@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <43B747DF.8070303@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43B747DF.8070303@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any Updates on RS/6000 Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:04:10 -0000 On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 10:09:19PM -0500, Jeff Isaac wrote: > I was just wondering whether there had been any developments > regarding new plans for RS6k support? I found a brief exchange in the > archives from March of 2004 saying that there were no plans to support > this architecture. Has this changed at all? I would like to commend you > folks on porting to the Mac/PPC systems as Apple will soon be abandoning > we PowerPC devotees, We still have the entire G5 series (and Xserve also) from Apple to progress thru before we're done with Apple HW. ;-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 3 21:27:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E3C16A41F for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:27:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmidaemon@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B058443D67 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:27:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmidaemon@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so536918wxc for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:27:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eixQyr2cf4cKFIphATnFYoYtKGbnZ4qcMZ4GvOuJaxTDCfJoZqN8BQ+nrJi8Fxf+5o0e5JzWcHd/dDTZUq7AzJMw8WISgWLMcUVdf12Nbl+AzLZIjzoKZUZkvq7vwBaI4YJcuBE/dvacjUqPBKkOBTDaBH5Kwff8OmxWJbL91O0= Received: by 10.70.21.18 with SMTP id 18mr13193241wxu; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.10.100? ( [70.20.117.58]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h16sm21938093wxd.2006.01.03.13.27.50; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:27:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43BAEC55.8010500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:27:49 -0500 From: Jeff Isaac User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <43B747DF.8070303@gmail.com> <20060103040404.GC54882@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20060103040404.GC54882@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Any Updates on RS/6000 Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:27:54 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: >On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 10:09:19PM -0500, Jeff Isaac wrote: > > >> I was just wondering whether there had been any developments >>regarding new plans for RS6k support? I found a brief exchange in the >>archives from March of 2004 saying that there were no plans to support >>this architecture. Has this changed at all? I would like to commend you >>folks on porting to the Mac/PPC systems as Apple will soon be abandoning >>we PowerPC devotees, >> >> > >We still have the entire G5 series (and Xserve also) from Apple to >progress thru before we're done with Apple HW. ;-) > > > Yes, I know, I know! :-) I am not at all trying to downplay the value of what you're doing, as I hope to keep my PPC hardware running for a good long time before I have to get a second mortgage on a house for a RS6000 workstation, but I am always one to like to know my options very very far in advance (yes, most sane people would call that "getting ahead of yourself") O:-) - Jeff From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 7 09:50:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0E716A420 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 09:50:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.illies@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate07.web.de (fmmailgate07.web.de [217.72.192.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089AF43D49 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 09:50:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.illies@web.de) Received: by fmmailgate07.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with SMTP id k079oVE0016418 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:50:57 +0100 Received: from [193.10.63.101] by freemailng5503.web.de with HTTP; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 10:50:56 +0100 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 10:50:56 +0100 Message-Id: <446797201@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Christopher Illies To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Precedence: fm-user Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem sharing UFS2 between PPC and i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 09:50:59 -0000 When I format ("newfs") my memory stick with UFS2 on a i386 FBSD system and try to mount it on PPC mount gives the error message "Invalid argument". Similarly, if the memory stick is formatted with UFS2 on PPC and I try to mount it on i386, mount fails with the error message: "incorrect super block" There are no problems if the memory stick is formatted with msdosfs. I had similar problems with an external hardisk when I wanted to share a UFS partition/slice. I could only find this in the archives: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-ppc/2004-October/000717.html Are these problems expected? Is anyone else seeing this? Could this have to do with big endian vs. little endian (just an idea, I have little clue myself what this is)? Christopher From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 7 09:54:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A3316A41F for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 09:54:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from hummer.onthenet.com.au (hummer.onthenet.com.au [203.13.68.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773C943D48 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 09:54:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from [203.144.2.190] (CPE-2-190.dsl.OntheNet.net [203.144.2.190]) by hummer.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA9819FE8D; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:54:27 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <43BF8FD2.1090603@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:54:26 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Illies References: <446797201@web.de> In-Reply-To: <446797201@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem sharing UFS2 between PPC and i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 09:54:30 -0000 Hi Christopher, > Could this have to do with big endian vs. little endian (just an idea, I have > little clue myself what this is)? You got it. FreeBSD can only read UFS filesystems created in native byte order. There's no equivalent of NetBSD's FFS_EI to allow byte-switching in the filesystem code. later, Peter.