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Doug White wrote:
> On Sat, 6 May 2006, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
> 
>> I found that installworld stops, because the 'audit' group has not been
>> created. Now I just pressed 'return' for the default actions during
>> mergemaster -p, but I didn't notice any mention of the audit group.
> 
> The default action is to do nothing, so its possible you just missed it as
> you were blazing through. :-)
> 
> Also, if you didn't delete the temporary directory last time, mergemaster
> will ask you if you want to re-use it. 9 times out of 10, the answer is
> 'no', but the default may be to save it.
> 

Thanks - I'll look more carefully next time :-).

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On Sunday 07 May 2006 01:59, Iantcho Vassilev wrote:
> I noticed such a problem:
>
> I have a 6.1 RC2 and i have in rc.conf
>
> pf_enable=3D"YES"
> pflogd_enable=3D"YES"
>
> but when the system boots i test with:
>
> pfctl -vs rules
>
> and there are not rules loaded.if i load them by hand there is no problem=
=2E.
> then i made:
>
> rc_debug=3D"YES"
>
> and the first thing that i saw was: when pf_enable is after pflogd_enable=
 ;
> it is not printed(checked)..
>
> then i changed the place of pf and pflogd in the rc.conf and i saw some
> output in the /var/log/messages..
> but still the ruleset wasn`t loaded..
>
> i put pf_load=3D"YES" >> /boot/loader.conf
> and still the ruleset is NOT loaded on boot...

What is your pf.conf like?  Do you have ALTQ in use?  Do you maybe try to u=
se=20
ALTQ on an interface that is created later on (tun0 or the like)?  What doe=
s=20
"/etc/rc.d/{pf, pflog} rcvar" give you?  Does "/etc/rc.d/pf start" work aft=
er=20
it failed on boot?  Try setting pf_flags=3D"-v" to get additional error=20
messages.

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Robert Watson wrote:

> 
> On Sat, 6 May 2006, Chris wrote:
> 
>> are snapshots a default setting?
> 
> 
> In case people want to avoid using snapshots, here are the uses I'm 
> currently aware of in the base system:
> 
> - Background file system check uses snapshots.  This can be disabled by 
> using
>   background_fsck="NO" in /etc/rc.conf.
> 
> - dump uses snapshots if the -L paramater is specified, in order to take an
>   atomic backup of the system.  It won't use snapshots unless explicitly
>   specified.
> 
> - mksnap_ffs uses snapshots, as it's the operator snapshot creation tool.
> 
> FWIW, I and a moderate number of other people use snapshots daily on 
> quite busy and over-burdened machines without problems.
> 
> Also, as an FYI, several quota-related snapshot fixes went into CVS in 
> the last 24-48 hours.  Once they've settled for a few weeks, and 
> assuming they don't have complex dependencies, they will get merged to 
> RELENG_6. Presumably if there is sufficient demand, and they adequately 
> address the reports of deadlocks with quotas+snapshots, they could be 
> merged to RELENG_6_1 as an errata update.

Exactly my thinking also.  In about 2-3 weeks time, we'll review this
and decide what to do.

Scott


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Chris wrote:

> On 05/05/06, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
> 
>> Make Jakubik wrote:
>>
>> > FreeBSD users now demand stability and performance, as opposed to an
>> > influx of new bells and whistles just before the release [...] I fully
>> > understand that this is a volunteer project [...]
>>
>> I'm sorry, but the former statement proves the latter false.
>>
>> Let's try to do our Semi-Annual Refresher Course On Open Source 
>> Development:
>>
>> The developers (at least 99% of them) work for free.  In their own spare
>> time.  Their motivations vary but I don't believe any of those include
>> being in a position to feel they need to respond to demands.  That's not
>> a positive motivator.  If they wanted to be in that position, they could
>> just stay at their $realjobs for those extra hours.
>>
>> Part of their shared goals, however, is to turn out the best system that
>> they possibly can, in the hopes that people will find it useful and want
>> to contribute back to it.  However, there are no guarantees involved,
>> implicit or explicit.  (If you want to compare and contrast to how much
>> "guarantee" you get from closed-source development, please pull out a 
>> copy
>> of your EULA.  They barely even "guarantee" that there are bits on the 
>> CD.)
>>
>> There's a long process where the developers try to agree on what features
>> need to be included and what bugs need to be fixed.  From the standpoint
>> of the people who attempt to coordinate this process, in technical jargon
>> the process is know as "herding cats".  I would be able to serve as an
>> expert witness in court about this.  (Side note: some of the cats hiss,
>> bite, and scratch; very few, if any, have _any_ interest in being 
>> herder.)
>>
>> There are always tradeoffs between stability and features.  During the
>> 5.X cycle we managed in some degree to de-optimize both: we had features
>> that were only available in an "experimental" branch that some people
>> considered critical (wireless, anyone?) while that "experimental" branch
>> was unsuitable for production use.  The idea was that we would hold on
>> to declaring 5.X "STABLE" until all the major bugs were fixed.
>>
>> And as a consequence, we didn't release for -- what, 2 years?
>>
>> So we've thrown out the idea of "wait until every possible bug is fixed."
>> It leads to rare releases, and larger code chaos, larger instability, and
>> allows FreeBSD's detractors to sniff "well, they're never going to 
>> release
>> anything again."  (Notice how the "BSD is dying" crowd on Slashdot has
>> been a lot quieter since we released 6.0?)
>>
>> So now what we're doing is trying to come up with more regular (not on
>> absolute deadline) releases, with smaller feature sets, to enable smaller
>> sets of new code to be debugged simultaneously.
>>
>> The features that some users see as critical, others don't.  (I don't 
>> have
>> quotas enabled; I have disabled soft-updates on the theory that as a 
>> single
>> user I can trade longer startup time for possibly greater error 
>> recovery).
>>
>> > I wish i was a good Unix C programmer myself, so i could contribute 
>> in a
>> > more direct way
>>
>> And there's the rub.  The people who _are_ good Unix/C programmers are 
>> the
>> ones doing the work, and as such, feel that they have the final say about
>> what goes and what doesn't.  While I hope that each of them will 
>> listen to
>> what individual users are saying, and take good suggestions to heart, the
>> fact remains that they are under no _obligation_ to do so.
>>
>> Finally, as has been pointed out already, the interactions between
>> quotas, soft-updates, and the rest of the system have problems that are
>> probably going to be fairly difficult to isolate and test.  Thus, they
>> could take days, weeks, or months.  If we were to hold the release until
>> these were fixed, basically our last 2 months of QA would be out the
>> window.  This is not a way to keep developers happy; at some point they
>> will tire of the inability to work on the things that they find 
>> interesting,
>> and wander off to find something else more fun to do.
>>
>> Summary: it's too bad that there are regressions, but sometime they're
>> a fact of life.  If these regressions are in areas that are critical for
>> a certain user, that user should just skip 6.1 and wait for 6.2.  The
>> stability gains that 6.1 have over 6.0 in so many other areas means that
>> it's time for 6.1 to go out the door, because for the majority of users
>> it's going to be a big win.
>>
>> As always, we welcome test cases on e.g. non-critical systems, earlier
>> in the release process (or between releases), where there's enough time
>> to thoroughly test that any proposed fix doesn't cause more problems than
>> it cures.  Within a few days of release, that simply isn't the case right
>> now.
>>
>> mcl
>> _______________________________________________
> 
> 
> nice post and ultimately you are correct, I personally would prefere a
> higher gap between releases for the following reasons tho.
> 
> 1 - it does increase stability if the extra time is spent fixing bugs
> and testing the fixes.
> 

No, actually it doesn't.  The real push to get bugs fixed doesn't happen
until about 2 weeks into the start of the release cycle.  It doesn't 
matter if it's been 2 months or 2 years since the last release; letting 
it sit longer absolutely does NOT result in fewer bugs.  in fact, it
results in MORE bugs, because more happens in the longer gap that needs
to be fixed.

> 2 - its easier for administration, upgrading freebsd every 2 to 3
> months isnt ideal for administrators.  I know releases are supported
> for much longer but given what kris told me recently that ports are
> only supported on the very latest release I found that a bit worrying.

There is nothing forcing users to upgrade at every release.  For my
company's product, I just updated us to 6.1, and I don't expect to do
a full update again until 6.3 or 6.4, other than some small targetted
micro-updates as needed.  For my production mail and firewall servers,
they are running RELENG_6_0, and I probably won't upgrade them until
6.2 or 6.3.

> 
> 3 - it raises profile for the release, the euphoria surrounding a
> release is much less if there is one every other month.

It was never, ever suggested that there be one release per month.  It
was planned that there be a release every 18 weeks.  There are snapshot
builds every month, and that is done to make sure that the releases
scripts continue to work, and give the adventurous users something to
play with.

> 
> In terms of a new major version ie. 7.x over 6.x I think that should
> only be released when their is something major changed like 5.x over
> 4.x had a new filesystem smp support etc. and I happen to think
> because 5.1 and 5.2 werent STABLE the 5.3 STABLE release turned out
> very stable at least in my experience and was more stable then 6.0.

5.1 and 5.2 were not given the 'STABLE' nomenclature.  As for 5.3 being
"more stable than 6.0", that is a very subjective statement.  I can
give you a list of at least 500 things that were fixed in between 5.3
and 6.0.  Unfortunately, a few things regressed, as often happens.

> What 
> was major difference between 6.0 and 5.4?  if I understand it
> correctly their has been a lot of work done fixing problems that
> existed in 5.x but no new feature to shout about.  ULE which was
> unfinished in 5.x still remains unfinished in 6.x and I wonder if will
> be a unfinished feature in 7.x.

You obviously never read the release notes, sorry.  MPSAFE VFS was a BIG
feature for 6.0.  Given that your discussion seems to be headed away 
from researched facts, I'll just stop here.  I won't even recognize your
statement about adding Java to the base system.

Scott


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g'day ...

   I've recently started having an issue on my desktop that I've been kinda 
hounding the cable provider about, but, from their end, they see 
absolutely no issues ... so I figured I'd see if there was maybe something 
happening within the OS itself ...

   Here is the issue ... periodically, for 60-120 secs, my SSH connections 
to servers in both Panama, Central America and Toronto, Canada, will hang 
... seems to be totally random ...

   Web *appears* to work during that time, and I have Azureas running and 
*it* appears to keep running during that time ... I suspect that my IMAP 
connections (fetchmail) are also being affected, since I get the original 
"timeout" emails from fetchmail ...

   I am running:

 	FreeBSD 6.1-RC #21: Sun Apr 30 20:56:36 ADT 2006

   On:

 	CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2394.01-MHz 686-class CPU)

   And my Internet connection is running on:

 	fxp0: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet>

   As I've mentioned above, I have been bugging my cable company about 
this, but they can find no reasons on their ends to account for this ... I 
have a business account, so I'm not dealing with "Residential QoS" issues 
on this one ...

   Is there *anything* on the OS side of things that I should be looking at 
that I may be overlooking?  Any known issues with the fxp driver that 
might be causing this?  I've always found it to be a more then stable 
driver, but things can happen ...

   Also, please note that I don't have a router between the 'Net and I ... 
my desktop is our network router, so the fxp device is directly connected 
...

   Thoughts?

Thanks ...

----
Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664

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On Sat, 6 May 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote:

KK> > Also, as an FYI, several quota-related snapshot fixes went into CVS in the 
KK> > last 24-48 hours.  Once they've settled for a few weeks, and assuming they 
KK> > don't have complex dependencies, they will get merged to RELENG_6. 
KK> > Presumably if there is sufficient demand, and they adequately address the 
KK> > reports of deadlocks with quotas+snapshots, they could be merged to 
KK> > RELENG_6_1 as an errata update.
KK> 
KK> The fixes seem to indeed correct all the deadlocks I was seeing.  I
KK> don't have time to produce a 6.x patch now though, but it should be a
KK> simple matter for someone else to do.

FWIW, for me it is much stabler too, at least in normal load patterns.  I'll 
spend a bit of time to stress-test this on our Samba quota-enabled server 
during our long weekend (today-to-Tuesday) to catch possible rare races.

Thanks Tor and others a lot!


Sincerely,
D.Marck                                     [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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On Sun, 2006-May-07 02:48:27 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>  Here is the issue ... periodically, for 60-120 secs, my SSH connections 
>to servers in both Panama, Central America and Toronto, Canada, will hang 
>... seems to be totally random ...

Presumably there are no messages reported...

If the problems are frequent enough, maybe you could try running
tcpdump on the network at both ends.  That might give you a better
idea of what is going wrong.

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> g'day ...
>
>   I've recently started having an issue on my desktop that I've been 
> kinda hounding the cable provider about, but, from their end, they see 
> absolutely no issues ... so I figured I'd see if there was maybe 
> something happening within the OS itself ...
>
>   Here is the issue ... periodically, for 60-120 secs, my SSH 
> connections to servers in both Panama, Central America and Toronto, 
> Canada, will hang ... seems to be totally random ...
>
>   Web *appears* to work during that time, and I have Azureas running 
> and *it* appears to keep running during that time ... I suspect that 
> my IMAP connections (fetchmail) are also being affected, since I get 
> the original "timeout" emails from fetchmail ...
>
>   I am running:
>
>     FreeBSD 6.1-RC #21: Sun Apr 30 20:56:36 ADT 2006
>
>   On:
>
>     CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2394.01-MHz 686-class CPU)
>
>   And my Internet connection is running on:
>
>     fxp0: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet>
>
>   As I've mentioned above, I have been bugging my cable company about 
> this, but they can find no reasons on their ends to account for this 
> ... I have a business account, so I'm not dealing with "Residential 
> QoS" issues on this one ...
>
>   Is there *anything* on the OS side of things that I should be 
> looking at that I may be overlooking?  Any known issues with the fxp 
> driver that might be causing this?  I've always found it to be a more 
> then stable driver, but things can happen ...
>
>   Also, please note that I don't have a router between the 'Net and I 
> ... my desktop is our network router, so the fxp device is directly 
> connected ...
>
>   Thoughts?
>
> Thanks ...
>
> ----
> Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services 
> (http://www.hub.org)
> Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 
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>
Hi,

Have you considered it might be an Azureas issue?
Older Azureas clients have caused me many headaches
on my home network.  I understand your network is
much more robust than what I am running on.  However,
Azureas runnign on MS Windows XP clients caused network
problems which affected my FreeBSD installation.  I never
did trace the cause except that when Azureas went away so
did the problems.  The newest Azureas client seems to play
much nicer though and I haven't been experienceing any
network issues.  The symptoms you describe sound very
similar in general to the ones everyone on my network
experienced, albeit with different applications in play.

Best Regards,

Duane Whitty
-- 
duane@greenmeadow.ca

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On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 09:26:51PM +0100, Chris wrote:
> 1 - it does increase stability if the extra time is spent fixing bugs
> and testing the fixes.

This assumes that you can persuade committers to focus on bugfixes instead
of on other things that they consider more fun.

> I happen to think because 5.1 and 5.2 werent STABLE the 5.3 STABLE
> release turned out very stable at least in my experience and was more
> stable then 6.0. 

This is the opposite from what most people experience, at least from my
experience with the mailing lists and GNATS.  5.3 was somewhat rough, due
in part to a large number of things merged into it during the QA cycle.
5.4 was a substantial increase in stability vs. 5.3 without having that
many new features.  6.0 had a fair number of advances in the code but by
the time it was released, most of the developers had turned their attention
away from 5.X and to 6.X.  Thus, many people found that not only did 6.0
have more features, it also had had more testing, and a large degree of
stability.  There were certain cases where things did not work as well as
we would have liked; however, for quite a number of people, 6.0 worked
better than even 5.4.

6.1 incorporates a large number of fixes more oriented to stability than
features.  5.5 incorporates a subset of those, because of the infeasbility
of back-merging many of those changes (they would risk more instability).

> What was major difference between 6.0 and 5.4?  if I understand it
> correctly their has been a lot of work done fixing problems that
> existed in 5.x but no new feature to shout about.

Much of the work was done on internals, which will fix race conditions,
increase performance, and add stability in the long run.

In particular, the wireless support in 6.0 is (AFAICT) much more advanced
than 5.4.

> ULE which was unfinished in 5.x still remains unfinished in 6.x and I
> wonder if will be a unfinished feature in 7.x.

This is completely tangential to the other issues.  ULE to some degree is
still a research project.  If you are not willing to live on the bleeding
edge of testing, you probably do not need to be running ULE.

> 4 - new features in minor version, why are we discussing an issue where
> there isn't enough time to fix some bugs

a) there is never enough time to fix all the bugs.
b) fixing bugs relies entirely on developer interest.  The 5.X experience
proved that longer release cycles do not necessarily raise developer interest.

> 5 - bug reports not acknowledged.  I have submitted a PRs myself and none
> have even been acknowledged

If they have not been acknowledged by GNATS, you need to email
bugmaster@FreeBSD.org and point these out so that we can identify the
problem.  (If your email has no reverse resolution, your email will not
make it to GNATS).

If they have been acknowledged by GNATS, then you should understand there
there are currently 5,424 PRs in the system (984 are ports PRs; many
others are kern/ or bin/).  We have far more PRs arrive than we have
developers who are willing to spend time working on them.  (The arrival
rate is somwehere around 40-50/day, 3/4ths of which are ports PRs and can
be cleared somewhat more quickly.)  If you have any concrete suggestions
on how we can get more current developers interested in working on PRs,
or some new developers that are primarily interested in working on PRs,
please make them.  I have been trying to come up with suggestions for a
while and haven't come up with much of anything.

> Ultimately RELEASE is supposedly the stablest branch.  Yet due to a
> rush to push out a release to keep people like slashdot happy people
> running freebsd servers around the world will suffer problems because
> of these bugs and may possibly move to linux as a result.  When are we
> going to go back to a FreeBSD that just works.

Keeping the slashdot crowd happy is merely a side-effect of making
releases that fit most user's needs, and in a timely fashion.  We have
definitely erred in not making them in a timely fashion in the 5.X
series; arguably, the push to wait until 'all promised features were
complete' failed to meet most users' needs as well.

The FreeBSD that "just worked" was release 9 or 10 out of a series that
was a far simpler codebase than the current one which runs on systems
with ACPI, multiple processors, multiple architectures, and a much larger
number of motherboards and peripherals.  We are currently ready for release
1 out of the 6 series.  If you compare 6.1 to 4.1 you'll find that there
is absolutely no comparison at all.

> After my rant I will say 6.1 so far has proven to me a lot more stable
> then 6.0

Well, this is where the "rubber meets the road" as the expression goes.
This seems to be the common experience.  (There are certain users who
seem to have problems with 6.0/6.1; these seem to be in the minority, and
possibly depend only on certain workloads.)  And, in addition, most users
seem to feel that 6.X is both more feature-complete, and more stable,
than 5.X.

We continue to do the best that we can; IMHO we make amazing progress
with a small number of developers, on a large number of architectures,
on several code branches simultaneously, on a bewildering variety of
motherboards and peripherals.

But we're not going to satisfy everyone.

mcl

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I'm trying to install a new server which has a hardware RAID controller.
All I need is a simple working RAID5 setup and this is my first time
doing it in FreeBSD. I noticed that /sbin/sysinstall does not support
configuring the drives through (g)vinum* therefore, I have to normally
partition the "slices" then configure vinum, is that the correct or
proper way of having RAID5 configured on the server? I would really
appreciate any feedback, links or hints on this as all the documentation
I have gone through looks very old, some are from 1997, 2001 and 2003
and some are talking about FreeBSD 4.4..


* http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/index.html

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On Sun, 7 May 2006, Duane Whitty wrote:

> Have you considered it might be an Azureas issue?

That I have, but nice to hear from someone that has experienced similar 
... the problems did start *around* the same time ... maybe taking up to 
many "slots" due to the connections ...

Hrmmm ... might try lowering the number of peers possible and see if that 
helps ...

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/etc/rc.d/pf rcvar - returns YES
my pf doesn`t have any ALTQ use
I will try pf_flags -v


Any other suggestions...

On 5/7/06, Max Laier <max@love2party.net> wrote:
>
> On Sunday 07 May 2006 01:59, Iantcho Vassilev wrote:
> > I noticed such a problem:
> >
> > I have a 6.1 RC2 and i have in rc.conf
> >
> > pf_enable=3D"YES"
> > pflogd_enable=3D"YES"
> >
> > but when the system boots i test with:
> >
> > pfctl -vs rules
> >
> > and there are not rules loaded.if i load them by hand there is no
> problem..
> > then i made:
> >
> > rc_debug=3D"YES"
> >
> > and the first thing that i saw was: when pf_enable is after
> pflogd_enable ;
> > it is not printed(checked)..
> >
> > then i changed the place of pf and pflogd in the rc.conf and i saw some
> > output in the /var/log/messages..
> > but still the ruleset wasn`t loaded..
> >
> > i put pf_load=3D"YES" >> /boot/loader.conf
> > and still the ruleset is NOT loaded on boot...
>
> What is your pf.conf like?  Do you have ALTQ in use?  Do you maybe try to
> use
> ALTQ on an interface that is created later on (tun0 or the like)?  What
> does
> "/etc/rc.d/{pf, pflog} rcvar" give you?  Does "/etc/rc.d/pf start" work
> after
> it failed on boot?  Try setting pf_flags=3D"-v" to get additional error
> messages.
>
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Also (if i didn`t mentioned it)..with rc_debug set i can`t see the pf being
checked at all...
in /var/log/messages i have..

May  7 12:00:30 tms_slave root: /etc/rc: INFO: checkyesno: inetd_enable is
set to NO.
May  7 12:00:30 tms_slave root: /etc/rc: INFO: checkyesno: hostapd_enable i=
s
set to NO.
May  7 12:00:30 tms_slave root: /etc/rc: INFO: run_rc_command: evaluating
geli2_start().
May  7 12:00:30 tms_slave root: /etc/rc: INFO: checkyesno: ftpd_enable is
set to NO.
May  7 12:00:30 tms_slave root: /etc/rc: INFO: checkyesno: bsnmpd_enable is
set to NO.
May  7 12:00:30 tms_slave root: /etc/rc: INFO: checkyesno: background_fsck
is set to YES


but nothing about PF.

Any suggestions?



On 5/7/06, Iantcho Vassilev <ianchov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> /etc/rc.d/pf rcvar - returns YES
> my pf doesn`t have any ALTQ use
> I will try pf_flags -v
>
>
> Any other suggestions...
>
>
> On 5/7/06, Max Laier < max@love2party.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday 07 May 2006 01:59, Iantcho Vassilev wrote:
> > > I noticed such a problem:
> > >
> > > I have a 6.1 RC2 and i have in rc.conf
> > >
> > > pf_enable=3D"YES"
> > > pflogd_enable=3D"YES"
> > >
> > > but when the system boots i test with:
> > >
> > > pfctl -vs rules
> > >
> > > and there are not rules loaded.if i load them by hand there is no
> > problem..
> > > then i made:
> > >
> > > rc_debug=3D"YES"
> > >
> > > and the first thing that i saw was: when pf_enable is after
> > pflogd_enable ;
> > > it is not printed(checked)..
> > >
> > > then i changed the place of pf and pflogd in the rc.conf and i saw
> > some
> > > output in the /var/log/messages..
> > > but still the ruleset wasn`t loaded..
> > >
> > > i put pf_load=3D"YES" >> /boot/loader.conf
> > > and still the ruleset is NOT loaded on boot...
> >
> > What is your pf.conf like?  Do you have ALTQ in use?  Do you maybe try
> > to use
> > ALTQ on an interface that is created later on (tun0 or the like)?  What
> > does
> > "/etc/rc.d/{pf, pflog} rcvar" give you?  Does "/etc/rc.d/pf start" work
> > after
> > it failed on boot?  Try setting pf_flags=3D"-v" to get additional error
> > messages.
> >
> > --
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Yousef Raffah <yraffah@savola.com> writes:

> I'm trying to install a new server which has a hardware RAID controller.

Hardware RAID controllers such as amr(4) or twe(4) (I've seen LSI
MegaRAID SCSI 320-1 and 3Ware Escalade 8006-2 LP, the latter is a 2-port
SATA controller and can't do RAID5 for lack of ports) stuff usually
presents a whole logical unit as a single SCSI drive (/dev/da0 for the
first disk array, /dev/da1 for the second and so on), so you shouldn't
need vinum, geom or anything like that - just the driver would suffice.

If you need vinum or geom to implement a RAID then chances are your
so-called "hardware RAID" is actually fake (fakeraid) and really
software RAID. Adaptec "HostRAID" and the RAID in intel's ICH x-R
chipsets falls into this fakeraid category. The vendors don't like to
present it as software RAID, so that particular bit is extremely hard to
find :-(

What is the brand and model of your so-called hardware RAID?

-- 
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On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 11:34 +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
> Yousef Raffah <yraffah@savola.com> writes:
>=20
> > I'm trying to install a new server which has a hardware RAID controller=
.
>=20
> Hardware RAID controllers such as amr(4) or twe(4) (I've seen LSI
> MegaRAID SCSI 320-1 and 3Ware Escalade 8006-2 LP, the latter is a 2-port
> SATA controller and can't do RAID5 for lack of ports) stuff usually
> presents a whole logical unit as a single SCSI drive (/dev/da0 for the
> first disk array, /dev/da1 for the second and so on), so you shouldn't
> need vinum, geom or anything like that - just the driver would suffice.
>=20
> If you need vinum or geom to implement a RAID then chances are your
> so-called "hardware RAID" is actually fake (fakeraid) and really
> software RAID. Adaptec "HostRAID" and the RAID in intel's ICH x-R
> chipsets falls into this fakeraid category. The vendors don't like to
> present it as software RAID, so that particular bit is extremely hard to
> find :-(
>=20
> What is the brand and model of your so-called hardware RAID?
>=20
The machine is a compaq server with Smart RAID controller

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Yousef Raffah wrote:

> The machine is a compaq server with Smart RAID controller

Is the controller recognised by FreeBSD during startup?

If it's a SmartArray 5xxx then the 'ciss' driver is the one you want:

ciss0: <Compaq Smart Array 5300> port ...
[...]
da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <COMPAQ RAID 5  VOLUME OK> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device=20
da0: 135.168MB/s transfers
da0: 105008MB (215056800 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 26355C)

This is a real hardware RAID card, and it presents the array to the
system as a regular SCSI disk (da0 above). Just define your array from
the card's BIOS and make sure you are running a kernel that has 'ciss'
enabled (GENERIC has it by default).

/Daniel Eriksson

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On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 01:00:56PM +0200, Daniel Eriksson wrote..
> Yousef Raffah wrote:
> 
> > The machine is a compaq server with Smart RAID controller
> 
> Is the controller recognised by FreeBSD during startup?
> 
> If it's a SmartArray 5xxx then the 'ciss' driver is the one you want:

Or the ida(4) for the older SmartArrays.  Like the DL380 (G1 model)
for example has.  ida(4) does not hook into the SCSI framework though.

> ciss0: <Compaq Smart Array 5300> port ...
> [...]
> da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <COMPAQ RAID 5  VOLUME OK> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device 
> da0: 135.168MB/s transfers
> da0: 105008MB (215056800 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 26355C)
> 
> This is a real hardware RAID card, and it presents the array to the
> system as a regular SCSI disk (da0 above). Just define your array from
> the card's BIOS and make sure you are running a kernel that has 'ciss'
> enabled (GENERIC has it by default).
> 
> /Daniel Eriksson
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On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 13:00 +0200, Daniel Eriksson wrote:
> Yousef Raffah wrote:
>=20
> > The machine is a compaq server with Smart RAID controller
>=20
> Is the controller recognised by FreeBSD during startup?
>=20
Yes

> If it's a SmartArray 5xxx then the 'ciss' driver is the one you want:
>=20
> ciss0: <Compaq Smart Array 5300> port ...
> [...]
> da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <COMPAQ RAID 5  VOLUME OK> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device=20
> da0: 135.168MB/s transfers
> da0: 105008MB (215056800 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 26355C)
>=20
I have exactly the same output :)

> This is a real hardware RAID card, and it presents the array to the
> system as a regular SCSI disk (da0 above). Just define your array from
> the card's BIOS and make sure you are running a kernel that has 'ciss'
> enabled (GENERIC has it by default).
>=20
Why should I define it from the card's BIOS? Is it done through the
system's startup (F9)?

How can I have my volumes configured? Is it after the system is being
installed or during installation? Please forgive my newbie questions :|

> /Daniel Eriksson
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the include /usr/include/crypto/rijndael.h seems to belong to
 	src/sys/crypto/rijndael.h

while the one in /usr/lib/libssh.a seems to want
	src/crypto/openssh/rijndael.h

unless, ofcource, im wrong :-)

danny



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On 5/7/06, Pertti Kosunen <pertti.kosunen@pp.nic.fi> wrote:
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> > pflogd_enable=3D"YES"
>
> pf_rules=3D"/etc/pf.conf"         # rules definition file for pf
>
> I have also that line in /etc/rc.conf .




I have added this long time ago...
still the result is the same..

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On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 03:49:08PM +0300, Iantcho Vassilev wrote:
> On 5/7/06, Pertti Kosunen <pertti.kosunen@pp.nic.fi> wrote:
> >
> >Iantcho Vassilev wrote:
> >> Hello to all,
> >>
> >>
> >> I noticed such a problem:
> >>
> >> I have a 6.1 RC2 and i have in rc.conf
> >>
> >> pf_enable=3D"YES"
> >> pflogd_enable=3D"YES"

This last line should be:

pflog_enable=3D"YES"

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Yousef Raffah wrote:

> Why should I define it from the card's BIOS?

Because there are no utilities in FreeBSD to configure the array during
runtime. Your only option is to do it from the BIOS when you boot your
computer.

> Is it done through the system's startup (F9)?

Just boot your server and wait for the BIOS screen for the card to pop
up. It will tell you what key to press to enter BIOS. I don't remember
what key it is off the top of my head.

> How can I have my volumes configured? Is it after the system is being
> installed or during installation? Please forgive my newbie=20
> questions :|

You need to configure your arrays BEFORE you install FreeBSD. Once the
arrays have been set up properly you can install FreeBSD. Because the
card presents each array that you have defined as a regular disk to the
system, just select the appropriate disk (most likely da0) during
sysinstall to get FreeBSD to partition/slice it up for you.

/Daniel Eriksson

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My mistake..

Is is actually pflog_enable=3D"YES"....


also i checked the /etc/rc.d/pf file permission =3D> 755...


I just don`t know

On 5/7/06, Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl> wrote:
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> On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 03:49:08PM +0300, Iantcho Vassilev wrote:
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I noticed such a problem:
> > >>
> > >> I have a 6.1 RC2 and i have in rc.conf
> > >>
> > >> pf_enable=3D"YES"
> > >> pflogd_enable=3D"YES"
>
> This last line should be:
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On Sun, 7 May 2006, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:

DM> KK> > Also, as an FYI, several quota-related snapshot fixes went into CVS in the 
DM> KK> > last 24-48 hours.  Once they've settled for a few weeks, and assuming they 
DM> KK> > don't have complex dependencies, they will get merged to RELENG_6. 
DM> KK> > Presumably if there is sufficient demand, and they adequately address the 
DM> KK> > reports of deadlocks with quotas+snapshots, they could be merged to 
DM> KK> > RELENG_6_1 as an errata update.
DM> KK> 
DM> KK> The fixes seem to indeed correct all the deadlocks I was seeing.  I
DM> KK> don't have time to produce a 6.x patch now though, but it should be a
DM> KK> simple matter for someone else to do.
DM> 
DM> FWIW, for me it is much stabler too, at least in normal load patterns.  I'll 
DM> spend a bit of time to stress-test this on our Samba quota-enabled server 
DM> during our long weekend (today-to-Tuesday) to catch possible rare races.

Alas, it is locked again:

root@office:~# ps axlww | grep snap
    0    32     0   0  -4  0     0     8 snaplk DL    ??    0:04.55 [bufdaemon]
    0    35     0   0  -4  0     0     8 snaplk DL    ??    0:01.11 [softdepflush]
    0 45080 45061   0  -4  0  5980  2768 snaplk D     ??    0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/smbd -D
    0 46040 46039   0  -4  0  4492  3616 snaplk D+    p1    0:15.04 rsync -av /ar/winroot/distrib/ /st/winroot/tmp/distrib-temp/
 1002 46116   726   0  -4  0  1612  1144 snaplk D+    p3    0:00.00 ls -GF -la /st/.snap/

Unfortunately, this was with non-debug kernel. I'm trying to reproduce the lock 
with debug kernel right now, but still with no luck - sometimes machine is 
almost hangs but up to now revives 4 or 5 times.

Sincerely,
D.Marck                                     [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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> DM> KK> > don't have complex dependencies, they will get merged to RELENG=
_6.=20
> DM> KK> > Presumably if there is sufficient demand, and they adequately a=
ddress the=20
> DM> KK> > reports of deadlocks with quotas+snapshots, they could be merge=
d to=20
> DM> KK> > RELENG_6_1 as an errata update.
> DM> KK>=20
> DM> KK> The fixes seem to indeed correct all the deadlocks I was seeing. =
 I
> DM> KK> don't have time to produce a 6.x patch now though, but it should =
be a
> DM> KK> simple matter for someone else to do.
> DM>=20
> DM> FWIW, for me it is much stabler too, at least in normal load patterns=
.  I'll=20
> DM> spend a bit of time to stress-test this on our Samba quota-enabled se=
rver=20
> DM> during our long weekend (today-to-Tuesday) to catch possible rare rac=
es.
>=20
> Alas, it is locked again:
>=20
> root@office:~# ps axlww | grep snap
>     0    32     0   0  -4  0     0     8 snaplk DL    ??    0:04.55 [bufd=
aemon]
>     0    35     0   0  -4  0     0     8 snaplk DL    ??    0:01.11 [soft=
depflush]
>     0 45080 45061   0  -4  0  5980  2768 snaplk D     ??    0:00.09 /usr/=
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>     0 46040 46039   0  -4  0  4492  3616 snaplk D+    p1    0:15.04 rsync=
 -av /ar/winroot/distrib/ /st/winroot/tmp/distrib-temp/
>  1002 46116   726   0  -4  0  1612  1144 snaplk D+    p3    0:00.00 ls -G=
F -la /st/.snap/
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> Unfortunately, this was with non-debug kernel. I'm trying to reproduce th=
e lock=20
> with debug kernel right now, but still with no luck - sometimes machine i=
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So, you are running CURRENT ? Or did you manually backported changes
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KB> > Alas, it is locked again:
KB> > 
KB> > root@office:~# ps axlww | grep snap
KB> >     0    32     0   0  -4  0     0     8 snaplk DL    ??    0:04.55 [bufdaemon]
KB> >     0    35     0   0  -4  0     0     8 snaplk DL    ??    0:01.11 [softdepflush]
KB> >     0 45080 45061   0  -4  0  5980  2768 snaplk D     ??    0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/smbd -D
KB> >     0 46040 46039   0  -4  0  4492  3616 snaplk D+    p1    0:15.04 rsync -av /ar/winroot/distrib/ /st/winroot/tmp/distrib-temp/
KB> >  1002 46116   726   0  -4  0  1612  1144 snaplk D+    p3    0:00.00 ls -GF -la /st/.snap/
KB> > 
KB> > Unfortunately, this was with non-debug kernel. I'm trying to reproduce the lock 
KB> > with debug kernel right now, but still with no luck - sometimes machine is 
KB> > almost hangs but up to now revives 4 or 5 times.
KB> > 
KB> So, you are running CURRENT ? Or did you manually backported changes
KB> from CURRENT to 6-STABLE ? Note that none of the relevant commits
KB> where MFCed still.

I'm running RELENG_6 with hand-merged sys/ufs/ffs changes from 1 to 7 May.

Sincerely,
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On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 07:59:33PM +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Sun, 7 May 2006, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>=20
> KB> > Alas, it is locked again:
> KB> >=20
> KB> > root@office:~# ps axlww | grep snap
> KB> >     0    32     0   0  -4  0     0     8 snaplk DL    ??    0:04.55=
 [bufdaemon]
> KB> >     0    35     0   0  -4  0     0     8 snaplk DL    ??    0:01.11=
 [softdepflush]
> KB> >     0 45080 45061   0  -4  0  5980  2768 snaplk D     ??    0:00.09=
 /usr/local/sbin/smbd -D
> KB> >     0 46040 46039   0  -4  0  4492  3616 snaplk D+    p1    0:15.04=
 rsync -av /ar/winroot/distrib/ /st/winroot/tmp/distrib-temp/
> KB> >  1002 46116   726   0  -4  0  1612  1144 snaplk D+    p3    0:00.00=
 ls -GF -la /st/.snap/
> KB> >=20
> KB> > Unfortunately, this was with non-debug kernel. I'm trying to reprod=
uce the lock=20
> KB> > with debug kernel right now, but still with no luck - sometimes mac=
hine is=20
> KB> > almost hangs but up to now revives 4 or 5 times.
> KB> >=20
> KB> So, you are running CURRENT ? Or did you manually backported changes
> KB> from CURRENT to 6-STABLE ? Note that none of the relevant commits
> KB> where MFCed still.
>=20
> I'm running RELENG_6 with hand-merged sys/ufs/ffs changes from 1 to 7 May.
It would be great to show the patchset. Also note that relevant changes are
not limited to ufs/ffs. For instance, rev. 1.671 of kern/vfs_subr.c is
also important, as well as rev. 1.82 of ufs/ufs/ufs_quota.c, that
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On Sun, 7 May 2006, Konstantin Belousov wrote:

KB> > I'm running RELENG_6 with hand-merged sys/ufs/ffs changes from 1 to 7 May.

KB> It would be great to show the patchset. Also note that relevant changes are
KB> not limited to ufs/ffs. For instance, rev. 1.671 of kern/vfs_subr.c is
KB> also important, as well as rev. 1.82 of ufs/ufs/ufs_quota.c, that
KB> deals explicitely with combination of snapshots and quotas.

Actually I did (see attachment) ;-)

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On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 08:29:08PM +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Sun, 7 May 2006, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>=20
> KB> > I'm running RELENG_6 with hand-merged sys/ufs/ffs changes from 1 to=
 7 May.
>=20
> KB> It would be great to show the patchset. Also note that relevant chang=
es are
> KB> not limited to ufs/ffs. For instance, rev. 1.671 of kern/vfs_subr.c is
> KB> also important, as well as rev. 1.82 of ufs/ufs/ufs_quota.c, that
> KB> deals explicitely with combination of snapshots and quotas.
>=20
> Actually I did (see attachment) ;-)
Please, add rev. 1.292 of kern/kern_exec.c. It is on hot path.

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On Sun, 7 May 2006, Konstantin Belousov wrote:

KB> > KB> > I'm running RELENG_6 with hand-merged sys/ufs/ffs changes from 1 to 7 May.
KB> > 
KB> > KB> It would be great to show the patchset. Also note that relevant changes are
KB> > KB> not limited to ufs/ffs. For instance, rev. 1.671 of kern/vfs_subr.c is
KB> > KB> also important, as well as rev. 1.82 of ufs/ufs/ufs_quota.c, that
KB> > KB> deals explicitely with combination of snapshots and quotas.
KB> > 
KB> > Actually I did (see attachment) ;-)
KB> Please, add rev. 1.292 of kern/kern_exec.c. It is on hot path.

I thought about this revision, but did not sure. Added, thanks.

Sincerely,
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On 07/05/06, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
> > On 05/05/06, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Make Jakubik wrote:
> >>
> >> > FreeBSD users now demand stability and performance, as opposed to an
> >> > influx of new bells and whistles just before the release [...] I ful=
ly
> >> > understand that this is a volunteer project [...]
> >>
> >> I'm sorry, but the former statement proves the latter false.
> >>
> >> Let's try to do our Semi-Annual Refresher Course On Open Source
> >> Development:
> >>
> >> The developers (at least 99% of them) work for free.  In their own spa=
re
> >> time.  Their motivations vary but I don't believe any of those include
> >> being in a position to feel they need to respond to demands.  That's n=
ot
> >> a positive motivator.  If they wanted to be in that position, they cou=
ld
> >> just stay at their $realjobs for those extra hours.
> >>
> >> Part of their shared goals, however, is to turn out the best system th=
at
> >> they possibly can, in the hopes that people will find it useful and wa=
nt
> >> to contribute back to it.  However, there are no guarantees involved,
> >> implicit or explicit.  (If you want to compare and contrast to how muc=
h
> >> "guarantee" you get from closed-source development, please pull out a
> >> copy
> >> of your EULA.  They barely even "guarantee" that there are bits on the
> >> CD.)
> >>
> >> There's a long process where the developers try to agree on what featu=
res
> >> need to be included and what bugs need to be fixed.  From the standpoi=
nt
> >> of the people who attempt to coordinate this process, in technical jar=
gon
> >> the process is know as "herding cats".  I would be able to serve as an
> >> expert witness in court about this.  (Side note: some of the cats hiss=
,
> >> bite, and scratch; very few, if any, have _any_ interest in being
> >> herder.)
> >>
> >> There are always tradeoffs between stability and features.  During the
> >> 5.X cycle we managed in some degree to de-optimize both: we had featur=
es
> >> that were only available in an "experimental" branch that some people
> >> considered critical (wireless, anyone?) while that "experimental" bran=
ch
> >> was unsuitable for production use.  The idea was that we would hold on
> >> to declaring 5.X "STABLE" until all the major bugs were fixed.
> >>
> >> And as a consequence, we didn't release for -- what, 2 years?
> >>
> >> So we've thrown out the idea of "wait until every possible bug is fixe=
d."
> >> It leads to rare releases, and larger code chaos, larger instability, =
and
> >> allows FreeBSD's detractors to sniff "well, they're never going to
> >> release
> >> anything again."  (Notice how the "BSD is dying" crowd on Slashdot has
> >> been a lot quieter since we released 6.0?)
> >>
> >> So now what we're doing is trying to come up with more regular (not on
> >> absolute deadline) releases, with smaller feature sets, to enable smal=
ler
> >> sets of new code to be debugged simultaneously.
> >>
> >> The features that some users see as critical, others don't.  (I don't
> >> have
> >> quotas enabled; I have disabled soft-updates on the theory that as a
> >> single
> >> user I can trade longer startup time for possibly greater error
> >> recovery).
> >>
> >> > I wish i was a good Unix C programmer myself, so i could contribute
> >> in a
> >> > more direct way
> >>
> >> And there's the rub.  The people who _are_ good Unix/C programmers are
> >> the
> >> ones doing the work, and as such, feel that they have the final say ab=
out
> >> what goes and what doesn't.  While I hope that each of them will
> >> listen to
> >> what individual users are saying, and take good suggestions to heart, =
the
> >> fact remains that they are under no _obligation_ to do so.
> >>
> >> Finally, as has been pointed out already, the interactions between
> >> quotas, soft-updates, and the rest of the system have problems that ar=
e
> >> probably going to be fairly difficult to isolate and test.  Thus, they
> >> could take days, weeks, or months.  If we were to hold the release unt=
il
> >> these were fixed, basically our last 2 months of QA would be out the
> >> window.  This is not a way to keep developers happy; at some point the=
y
> >> will tire of the inability to work on the things that they find
> >> interesting,
> >> and wander off to find something else more fun to do.
> >>
> >> Summary: it's too bad that there are regressions, but sometime they're
> >> a fact of life.  If these regressions are in areas that are critical f=
or
> >> a certain user, that user should just skip 6.1 and wait for 6.2.  The
> >> stability gains that 6.1 have over 6.0 in so many other areas means th=
at
> >> it's time for 6.1 to go out the door, because for the majority of user=
s
> >> it's going to be a big win.
> >>
> >> As always, we welcome test cases on e.g. non-critical systems, earlier
> >> in the release process (or between releases), where there's enough tim=
e
> >> to thoroughly test that any proposed fix doesn't cause more problems t=
han
> >> it cures.  Within a few days of release, that simply isn't the case ri=
ght
> >> now.
> >>
> >> mcl
> >> _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> > nice post and ultimately you are correct, I personally would prefere a
> > higher gap between releases for the following reasons tho.
> >
> > 1 - it does increase stability if the extra time is spent fixing bugs
> > and testing the fixes.
> >
>
> No, actually it doesn't.  The real push to get bugs fixed doesn't happen
> until about 2 weeks into the start of the release cycle.  It doesn't
> matter if it's been 2 months or 2 years since the last release; letting
> it sit longer absolutely does NOT result in fewer bugs.  in fact, it
> results in MORE bugs, because more happens in the longer gap that needs
> to be fixed.
>
> > 2 - its easier for administration, upgrading freebsd every 2 to 3
> > months isnt ideal for administrators.  I know releases are supported
> > for much longer but given what kris told me recently that ports are
> > only supported on the very latest release I found that a bit worrying.
>
> There is nothing forcing users to upgrade at every release.  For my
> company's product, I just updated us to 6.1, and I don't expect to do
> a full update again until 6.3 or 6.4, other than some small targetted
> micro-updates as needed.  For my production mail and firewall servers,
> they are running RELENG_6_0, and I probably won't upgrade them until
> 6.2 or 6.3.
>
> >
> > 3 - it raises profile for the release, the euphoria surrounding a
> > release is much less if there is one every other month.
>
> It was never, ever suggested that there be one release per month.  It
> was planned that there be a release every 18 weeks.  There are snapshot
> builds every month, and that is done to make sure that the releases
> scripts continue to work, and give the adventurous users something to
> play with.
>
> >
> > In terms of a new major version ie. 7.x over 6.x I think that should
> > only be released when their is something major changed like 5.x over
> > 4.x had a new filesystem smp support etc. and I happen to think
> > because 5.1 and 5.2 werent STABLE the 5.3 STABLE release turned out
> > very stable at least in my experience and was more stable then 6.0.
>
> 5.1 and 5.2 were not given the 'STABLE' nomenclature.  As for 5.3 being
> "more stable than 6.0", that is a very subjective statement.  I can
> give you a list of at least 500 things that were fixed in between 5.3
> and 6.0.  Unfortunately, a few things regressed, as often happens.
>
> > What
> > was major difference between 6.0 and 5.4?  if I understand it
> > correctly their has been a lot of work done fixing problems that
> > existed in 5.x but no new feature to shout about.  ULE which was
> > unfinished in 5.x still remains unfinished in 6.x and I wonder if will
> > be a unfinished feature in 7.x.
>
> You obviously never read the release notes, sorry.  MPSAFE VFS was a BIG
> feature for 6.0.  Given that your discussion seems to be headed away
> from researched facts, I'll just stop here.  I won't even recognize your
> statement about adding Java to the base system.
>
> Scott
>
>

Wow I generated some responses. my comments I think were too strong
and harsh but I will respond.

GNATS didnt reply so I will send the info about email address I used
and see if I can find the pr number as well.

One issue was a dicussion on here which already had a PR so I didnt
post a seperate PR for it that was the bge issue.

I dont have servers with massive uptimes at the cost of security, if
something has a patch that will pose a risk to me I will schedule the
necessary maintenance on that server I dont immediatly apply it tho
since I cant be rebooting servers every week.  I was reffering more to
making sure everything carries on running on the server after the
upgrade.  But you are right in that I dont upgrade every version
anyway, I will have to on my 5.4 server's to 5.5 since 5.4 is EOL end
of may.  I will put all my 6.0 to 6.1 for stability reasons and
hopefully after then I can wait till 6.3 like you said.

The java I picked up from a newsletter about the licensing changes,
obviously I misread it if my information is incorrect I apologise for
that.

Chris

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On 05/07/06 04:27, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Sun, 7 May 2006, Duane Whitty wrote:
>> Have you considered it might be an Azureas issue?
>=20
> That I have, but nice to hear from someone that has experienced similar=

> ... the problems did start *around* the same time ... maybe taking up t=
o
> many "slots" due to the connections ...
>=20
> Hrmmm ... might try lowering the number of peers possible and see if
> that helps ...

You mentioned this box is acting as a router.  Do you have any firewall
rules in place that could be responsible?

The suggestion of a tcpdump at both ends is a good one.

-Jonathan

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On Sun, 7 May 2006, Jonathan Noack wrote:

> On 05/07/06 04:27, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 May 2006, Duane Whitty wrote:
>>> Have you considered it might be an Azureas issue?
>>
>> That I have, but nice to hear from someone that has experienced similar
>> ... the problems did start *around* the same time ... maybe taking up to
>> many "slots" due to the connections ...
>>
>> Hrmmm ... might try lowering the number of peers possible and see if
>> that helps ...
>
> You mentioned this box is acting as a router.  Do you have any firewall
> rules in place that could be responsible?

Not at this time, no ... straight NAT ...

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Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664

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Iantcho Vassilev wrote:
> Hello to all,
> 
> 
> I noticed such a problem:
> 
> I have a 6.1 RC2

Step one should be to upgrade to the latest 6-stable, and run mergemaster.

> and i have in rc.conf
> 
> pf_enable="YES"
> pflogd_enable="YES"

I think you already corrected yourself to say that you have pflog_enable,
not pflogd_, correct?

> but when the system boots i test with:
> 
> pfctl -vs rules
> 
> and there are not rules loaded.if i load them by hand there is no problem..

When you say "load them by hand," what do you do exactly?

> then i made:
> 
> rc_debug="YES"

Try adding rc_info=yes as well.

> and the first thing that i saw was: when pf_enable is after pflogd_enable ;
> it is not printed(checked)..

The order of the variables in your rc.conf file is not relevant.

> i put pf_load="YES" >> /boot/loader.conf
> and still the ruleset is NOT loaded on boot...

The rc system doesn't know anything about /boot/loader.conf.

I'm also interested in what happens if you add -v to the pf_flags. What are
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Bruce A. Mah wrote:
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> people are anxiously awaiting 6.1-RELEASE and it's been a *long* release
> cycle...just be patient a little longer...

And for those of you who can't be patient, there is nothing stopping you
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On Saturday 06 May 2006 21:17, Sam Leffler wrote:
> A new test snapshot is available at:
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~sam/ath_hal-20060506.tgz
>
> This is 0.9.17.0 and is known to work on sparc (tested) and may well
> work on alpha (untested but likely the same issue that broke sparc).
>
> This code should be a drop-in replacement for what's in cvs in HEAD but
> be sure to rebuild both the driver and rate control module as there are
> ABI changes.  Note that to use this hal with RELENG_6 or other branches
> other than HEAD you must have rev 1.143 of if_ath.c.  To build a sparc
> module you must have rev 1.5 of modules/ath_hal/Makefile and rev 1.539
> of conf/options.
>

I attached a patch for if_ath.c on releng_6=20
with it the hal should compile on i386 and amd64 fine

but at the end for my card, the DWL-AG530, nothing changed


ath_hal: 0.9.17.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
ath0: <Atheros 5212> mem 0xfae00000-0xfae0ffff irq 16 at device 11.0 on pci0
ath0: Ethernet address: 00:11:95:c2:2a:80
ath0: mac 5.9 phy 4.3 radio 3.6


setting to regdomain 16

Channel   1 : 2412  Mhz 11g          Channel  48 : 5240  Mhz 11a
Channel   2 : 2417  Mhz 11g          Channel  50 : 5250  Mhz 11a Turbo
Channel   3 : 2422  Mhz 11g          Channel  52 : 5260  Mhz 11a
Channel   4 : 2427  Mhz 11g          Channel  56 : 5280  Mhz 11a
Channel   5 : 2432  Mhz 11g          Channel  58 : 5290  Mhz 11a Turbo
Channel   6 : 2437  Mhz 11g          Channel  60 : 5300  Mhz 11a
Channel   7 : 2442  Mhz 11g          Channel  64 : 5320  Mhz 11a
Channel   8 : 2447  Mhz 11g          Channel 149 : 5745  Mhz 11a
Channel   9 : 2452  Mhz 11g          Channel 152 : 5760  Mhz 11a Turbo
Channel  10 : 2457  Mhz 11g          Channel 153 : 5765  Mhz 11a
Channel  11 : 2462  Mhz 11g          Channel 157 : 5785  Mhz 11a
Channel  36 : 5180  Mhz 11a          Channel 160 : 5800  Mhz 11a Turbo
Channel  40 : 5200  Mhz 11a          Channel 161 : 5805  Mhz 11a
Channel  42 : 5210  Mhz 11a Turbo    Channel 165 : 5825  Mhz 11a
Channel  44 : 5220  Mhz 11a


setting regdomain 18

Channel   1 : 2412  Mhz 11g          Channel 136 : 4942* Mhz 11a
Channel   2 : 2417  Mhz 11g          Channel 136 : 4945* Mhz 11a
Channel   3 : 2422  Mhz 11g          Channel 136 : 4950* Mhz 11a
Channel   4 : 2427  Mhz 11g          Channel 137 : 4955* Mhz 11a
Channel   5 : 2432  Mhz 11g          Channel 137 : 4960* Mhz 11a
Channel   6 : 2437  Mhz 11g          Channel 137 : 4965* Mhz 11a
Channel   7 : 2442  Mhz 11g          Channel 137 : 4970* Mhz 11a
Channel   8 : 2447  Mhz 11g          Channel 138 : 4975* Mhz 11a
Channel   9 : 2452  Mhz 11g          Channel 138 : 4980* Mhz 11a
Channel  10 : 2457  Mhz 11g          Channel 138 : 4985* Mhz 11a
Channel  11 : 2462  Mhz 11g



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--- if_ath.c.ori	Sun May  7 20:38:42 2006
+++ if_ath.c	Sun May  7 07:18:07 2006
@@ -293,7 +293,8 @@
 	if_initname(ifp, device_get_name(sc->sc_dev),
 		device_get_unit(sc->sc_dev));
 
-	ah = ath_hal_attach(devid, sc, sc->sc_st, sc->sc_sh, &status);
+	ah = ath_hal_attach(devid, sc, (HAL_BUS_TAG) sc->sc_st,
+		(HAL_BUS_HANDLE) sc->sc_sh, &status);
 	if (ah == NULL) {
 		if_printf(ifp, "unable to attach hardware; HAL status %u\n",
 			status);
@@ -750,15 +749,9 @@
 	DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_INTR, "%s: status 0x%x\n", __func__, status);
 	status &= sc->sc_imask;			/* discard unasked for bits */
 	if (status & HAL_INT_FATAL) {
-		/*
-		 * Fatal errors are unrecoverable.  Typically
-		 * these are caused by DMA errors.  Unfortunately
-		 * the exact reason is not (presently) returned
-		 * by the hal.
-		 */
 		sc->sc_stats.ast_hardware++;
 		ath_hal_intrset(ah, 0);		/* disable intr's until reset */
-		taskqueue_enqueue(sc->sc_tq, &sc->sc_fataltask);
+		ath_fatal_proc(sc, 0);
 	} else if (status & HAL_INT_RXORN) {
 		sc->sc_stats.ast_rxorn++;
 		ath_hal_intrset(ah, 0);		/* disable intr's until reset */
@@ -817,8 +810,21 @@
 {
 	struct ath_softc *sc = arg;
 	struct ifnet *ifp = sc->sc_ifp;
+	u_int32_t *state;
+	u_int32_t len;
 
 	if_printf(ifp, "hardware error; resetting\n");
+	/*
+	 * Fatal errors are unrecoverable.  Typically these
+	 * are caused by DMA errors.  Collect h/w state from
+	 * the hal so we can diagnose what's going on.
+	 */
+	if (ath_hal_getfatalstate(sc->sc_ah, &state, &len)) {
+		KASSERT(len >= 6*sizeof(u_int32_t), ("len %u bytes", len));
+		if_printf(ifp, "0x%08x 0x%08x 0x%08x, 0x%08x 0x%08x 0x%08x\n",
+		    state[0], state[1] , state[2], state[3],
+		    state[4], state[5]);
+	}
 	ath_reset(ifp);
 }
 
@@ -1924,7 +1930,7 @@
 	const HAL_RATE_TABLE *rt;
 	u_int8_t rix, rate;
 
-	DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_BEACON, "%s: m %p len %u\n",
+	DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_BEACON_PROC, "%s: m %p len %u\n",
 		__func__, m, m->m_len);
 
 	/* setup descriptors */
@@ -2010,14 +2016,14 @@
 	}
 	/*
 	 * Check if the previous beacon has gone out.  If
-	 * not don't don't try to post another, skip this
-	 * period and wait for the next.  Missed beacons
-	 * indicate a problem and should not occur.  If we
-	 * miss too many consecutive beacons reset the device.
+	 * not don't try to post another, skip this period
+	 * and wait for the next.  Missed beacons indicate
+	 * a problem and should not occur.  If we miss too
+	 * many consecutive beacons reset the device.
 	 */
 	if (ath_hal_numtxpending(ah, sc->sc_bhalq) != 0) {
 		sc->sc_bmisscount++;
-		DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_BEACON_PROC,
+		DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_BEACON,
 			"%s: missed %u consecutive beacons\n",
 			__func__, sc->sc_bmisscount);
 		if (sc->sc_bmisscount > 3)		/* NB: 3 is a guess */
@@ -2568,7 +2574,6 @@
 		rssi = HAL_EP_RND(avgrssi, HAL_RSSI_EP_MULTIPLIER);
 	else
 		rssi = ni->ni_rssi;
-	/* NB: theoretically we shouldn't need this, but be paranoid */
 	return rssi < 0 ? 0 : rssi > 127 ? 127 : rssi;
 #undef HAL_EP_RND
 }
@@ -2916,7 +2921,7 @@
 		/*
 		 * Sync and unmap the frame.  At this point we're
 		 * committed to passing the mbuf somewhere so clear
-		 * bf_m; this means a new sk_buff must be allocated
+		 * bf_m; this means a new mbuf must be allocated
 		 * when the rx descriptor is setup again to receive
 		 * another frame.
 		 */
@@ -3978,9 +3983,12 @@
 		ATH_TXQ_REMOVE_HEAD(txq, bf_list);
 		ATH_TXQ_UNLOCK(txq);
 #ifdef ATH_DEBUG
-		if (sc->sc_debug & ATH_DEBUG_RESET)
+		if (sc->sc_debug & ATH_DEBUG_RESET) {
 			ath_printtxbuf(bf, txq->axq_qnum, ix,
 				ath_hal_txprocdesc(ah, bf->bf_desc) == HAL_OK);
+			ieee80211_dump_pkt(mtod(bf->bf_m, caddr_t),
+				bf->bf_m->m_len, 0, -1);
+		}
 #endif /* ATH_DEBUG */
 		bus_dmamap_unload(sc->sc_dmat, bf->bf_dmamap);
 		m_freem(bf->bf_m);
@@ -4004,11 +4012,11 @@
 {
 	struct ath_hal *ah = sc->sc_ah;
 
-	(void) ath_hal_stoptxdma(ah, txq->axq_qnum);
 	DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_RESET, "%s: tx queue [%u] %p, link %p\n",
 	    __func__, txq->axq_qnum,
 	    (caddr_t)(uintptr_t) ath_hal_gettxbuf(ah, txq->axq_qnum),
 	    txq->axq_link);
+	(void) ath_hal_stoptxdma(ah, txq->axq_qnum);
 }
 
 /*
@@ -4024,10 +4032,11 @@
 	/* XXX return value */
 	if (!sc->sc_invalid) {
 		/* don't touch the hardware if marked invalid */
+		DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_RESET, "%s: tx queue [%u] %p, link %p\n",
+		    __func__, sc->sc_bhalq,
+		    (caddr_t)(uintptr_t) ath_hal_gettxbuf(ah, sc->sc_bhalq),
+		    NULL);
 		(void) ath_hal_stoptxdma(ah, sc->sc_bhalq);
-		DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_RESET,
-		    "%s: beacon queue %p\n", __func__,
-		    (caddr_t)(uintptr_t) ath_hal_gettxbuf(ah, sc->sc_bhalq));
 		for (i = 0; i < HAL_NUM_TX_QUEUES; i++)
 			if (ATH_TXQ_SETUP(sc, i))
 				ath_tx_stopdma(sc, &sc->sc_txq[i]);
@@ -4035,6 +4044,17 @@
 	for (i = 0; i < HAL_NUM_TX_QUEUES; i++)
 		if (ATH_TXQ_SETUP(sc, i))
 			ath_tx_draintxq(sc, &sc->sc_txq[i]);
+#ifdef ATH_DEBUG
+	if (sc->sc_debug & ATH_DEBUG_RESET) {
+		struct ath_buf *bf = STAILQ_FIRST(&sc->sc_bbuf);
+		if (bf != NULL && bf->bf_m != NULL) {
+			ath_printtxbuf(bf, sc->sc_bhalq, 0,
+				ath_hal_txprocdesc(ah, bf->bf_desc) == HAL_OK);
+			ieee80211_dump_pkt(mtod(bf->bf_m, caddr_t),
+				bf->bf_m->m_len, 0, -1);
+		}
+	}
+#endif /* ATH_DEBUG */
 	ifp->if_drv_flags &= ~IFF_DRV_OACTIVE;
 	sc->sc_tx_timer = 0;
 }
@@ -4567,6 +4587,9 @@
 	HAL_BOOL outdoor, HAL_BOOL xchanmode)
 {
 #define	COMPAT	(CHANNEL_ALL_NOTURBO|CHANNEL_PASSIVE)
+#define IS_CHAN_PUBLIC_SAFETY(_c) \
+	(((_c)->channelFlags & CHANNEL_5GHZ) && \
+	 ((_c)->channel > 4940 && (_c)->channel < 4990))
 	struct ieee80211com *ic = &sc->sc_ic;
 	struct ifnet *ifp = sc->sc_ifp;
 	struct ath_hal *ah = sc->sc_ah;
@@ -4599,7 +4622,16 @@
 		HAL_CHANNEL *c = &chans[i];
 		u_int16_t flags;
 
-		ix = ath_hal_mhz2ieee(ah, c->channel, c->channelFlags);
+		/*
+		 * XXX we're not ready to handle the ieee number mapping
+		 * for public safety channels as they overlap with any
+		 * 2GHz channels; for now use the non-public safety
+		 * numbering which is non-overlapping.
+		 */
+		if (IS_CHAN_PUBLIC_SAFETY(c))
+			ix = (c->channel - 4000) / 5;
+		else
+			ix = ath_hal_mhz2ieee(ah, c->channel, c->channelFlags);
 		if (ix > IEEE80211_CHAN_MAX) {
 			if_printf(ifp, "bad hal channel %d (%u/%x) ignored\n",
 				ix, c->channel, c->channelFlags);
@@ -4632,6 +4664,7 @@
 	}
 	free(chans, M_TEMP);
 	return 0;
+#undef IS_CHAN_PUBLIC_SAFETY
 #undef COMPAT
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On Sunday 07 May 2006 21:39, JoaoBR wrote:

the former patch was the wrong one, sorry

Jo=E3o

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--- if_ath.c.ori	Sun May  7 20:38:42 2006
+++ if_ath.c	Sun May  7 07:18:07 2006
@@ -293,7 +293,8 @@
 	if_initname(ifp, device_get_name(sc->sc_dev),
 		device_get_unit(sc->sc_dev));
 
-	ah = ath_hal_attach(devid, sc, sc->sc_st, sc->sc_sh, &status);
+	ah = ath_hal_attach(devid, sc, (HAL_BUS_TAG) sc->sc_st,
+		(HAL_BUS_HANDLE) sc->sc_sh, &status);
 	if (ah == NULL) {
 		if_printf(ifp, "unable to attach hardware; HAL status %u\n",
 			status);
@@ -817,8 +810,21 @@
 {
 	struct ath_softc *sc = arg;
 	struct ifnet *ifp = sc->sc_ifp;
+	u_int32_t *state;
+	u_int32_t len;
 
 	if_printf(ifp, "hardware error; resetting\n");
+	/*
+	 * Fatal errors are unrecoverable.  Typically these
+	 * are caused by DMA errors.  Collect h/w state from
+	 * the hal so we can diagnose what's going on.
+	 */
+	if (ath_hal_getfatalstate(sc->sc_ah, &state, &len)) {
+		KASSERT(len >= 6*sizeof(u_int32_t), ("len %u bytes", len));
+		if_printf(ifp, "0x%08x 0x%08x 0x%08x, 0x%08x 0x%08x 0x%08x\n",
+		    state[0], state[1] , state[2], state[3],
+		    state[4], state[5]);
+	}
 	ath_reset(ifp);
 }
 
@@ -1924,7 +1930,7 @@
 	const HAL_RATE_TABLE *rt;
 	u_int8_t rix, rate;
 
-	DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_BEACON, "%s: m %p len %u\n",
+	DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_BEACON_PROC, "%s: m %p len %u\n",
 		__func__, m, m->m_len);
 
 	/* setup descriptors */
@@ -2010,14 +2016,14 @@
 	}
 	/*
 	 * Check if the previous beacon has gone out.  If
-	 * not don't don't try to post another, skip this
-	 * period and wait for the next.  Missed beacons
-	 * indicate a problem and should not occur.  If we
-	 * miss too many consecutive beacons reset the device.
+	 * not don't try to post another, skip this period
+	 * and wait for the next.  Missed beacons indicate
+	 * a problem and should not occur.  If we miss too
+	 * many consecutive beacons reset the device.
 	 */
 	if (ath_hal_numtxpending(ah, sc->sc_bhalq) != 0) {
 		sc->sc_bmisscount++;
-		DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_BEACON_PROC,
+		DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_BEACON,
 			"%s: missed %u consecutive beacons\n",
 			__func__, sc->sc_bmisscount);
 		if (sc->sc_bmisscount > 3)		/* NB: 3 is a guess */
@@ -2568,7 +2574,6 @@
 		rssi = HAL_EP_RND(avgrssi, HAL_RSSI_EP_MULTIPLIER);
 	else
 		rssi = ni->ni_rssi;
-	/* NB: theoretically we shouldn't need this, but be paranoid */
 	return rssi < 0 ? 0 : rssi > 127 ? 127 : rssi;
 #undef HAL_EP_RND
 }
@@ -2916,7 +2921,7 @@
 		/*
 		 * Sync and unmap the frame.  At this point we're
 		 * committed to passing the mbuf somewhere so clear
-		 * bf_m; this means a new sk_buff must be allocated
+		 * bf_m; this means a new mbuf must be allocated
 		 * when the rx descriptor is setup again to receive
 		 * another frame.
 		 */
@@ -3978,9 +3983,12 @@
 		ATH_TXQ_REMOVE_HEAD(txq, bf_list);
 		ATH_TXQ_UNLOCK(txq);
 #ifdef ATH_DEBUG
-		if (sc->sc_debug & ATH_DEBUG_RESET)
+		if (sc->sc_debug & ATH_DEBUG_RESET) {
 			ath_printtxbuf(bf, txq->axq_qnum, ix,
 				ath_hal_txprocdesc(ah, bf->bf_desc) == HAL_OK);
+			ieee80211_dump_pkt(mtod(bf->bf_m, caddr_t),
+				bf->bf_m->m_len, 0, -1);
+		}
 #endif /* ATH_DEBUG */
 		bus_dmamap_unload(sc->sc_dmat, bf->bf_dmamap);
 		m_freem(bf->bf_m);
@@ -4004,11 +4012,11 @@
 {
 	struct ath_hal *ah = sc->sc_ah;
 
-	(void) ath_hal_stoptxdma(ah, txq->axq_qnum);
 	DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_RESET, "%s: tx queue [%u] %p, link %p\n",
 	    __func__, txq->axq_qnum,
 	    (caddr_t)(uintptr_t) ath_hal_gettxbuf(ah, txq->axq_qnum),
 	    txq->axq_link);
+	(void) ath_hal_stoptxdma(ah, txq->axq_qnum);
 }
 
 /*
@@ -4024,10 +4032,11 @@
 	/* XXX return value */
 	if (!sc->sc_invalid) {
 		/* don't touch the hardware if marked invalid */
+		DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_RESET, "%s: tx queue [%u] %p, link %p\n",
+		    __func__, sc->sc_bhalq,
+		    (caddr_t)(uintptr_t) ath_hal_gettxbuf(ah, sc->sc_bhalq),
+		    NULL);
 		(void) ath_hal_stoptxdma(ah, sc->sc_bhalq);
-		DPRINTF(sc, ATH_DEBUG_RESET,
-		    "%s: beacon queue %p\n", __func__,
-		    (caddr_t)(uintptr_t) ath_hal_gettxbuf(ah, sc->sc_bhalq));
 		for (i = 0; i < HAL_NUM_TX_QUEUES; i++)
 			if (ATH_TXQ_SETUP(sc, i))
 				ath_tx_stopdma(sc, &sc->sc_txq[i]);
@@ -4035,6 +4044,17 @@
 	for (i = 0; i < HAL_NUM_TX_QUEUES; i++)
 		if (ATH_TXQ_SETUP(sc, i))
 			ath_tx_draintxq(sc, &sc->sc_txq[i]);
+#ifdef ATH_DEBUG
+	if (sc->sc_debug & ATH_DEBUG_RESET) {
+		struct ath_buf *bf = STAILQ_FIRST(&sc->sc_bbuf);
+		if (bf != NULL && bf->bf_m != NULL) {
+			ath_printtxbuf(bf, sc->sc_bhalq, 0,
+				ath_hal_txprocdesc(ah, bf->bf_desc) == HAL_OK);
+			ieee80211_dump_pkt(mtod(bf->bf_m, caddr_t),
+				bf->bf_m->m_len, 0, -1);
+		}
+	}
+#endif /* ATH_DEBUG */
 	ifp->if_drv_flags &= ~IFF_DRV_OACTIVE;
 	sc->sc_tx_timer = 0;
 }
@@ -4567,6 +4587,9 @@
 	HAL_BOOL outdoor, HAL_BOOL xchanmode)
 {
 #define	COMPAT	(CHANNEL_ALL_NOTURBO|CHANNEL_PASSIVE)
+#define IS_CHAN_PUBLIC_SAFETY(_c) \
+	(((_c)->channelFlags & CHANNEL_5GHZ) && \
+	 ((_c)->channel > 4940 && (_c)->channel < 4990))
 	struct ieee80211com *ic = &sc->sc_ic;
 	struct ifnet *ifp = sc->sc_ifp;
 	struct ath_hal *ah = sc->sc_ah;
@@ -4599,7 +4622,16 @@
 		HAL_CHANNEL *c = &chans[i];
 		u_int16_t flags;
 
-		ix = ath_hal_mhz2ieee(ah, c->channel, c->channelFlags);
+		/*
+		 * XXX we're not ready to handle the ieee number mapping
+		 * for public safety channels as they overlap with any
+		 * 2GHz channels; for now use the non-public safety
+		 * numbering which is non-overlapping.
+		 */
+		if (IS_CHAN_PUBLIC_SAFETY(c))
+			ix = (c->channel - 4000) / 5;
+		else
+			ix = ath_hal_mhz2ieee(ah, c->channel, c->channelFlags);
 		if (ix > IEEE80211_CHAN_MAX) {
 			if_printf(ifp, "bad hal channel %d (%u/%x) ignored\n",
 				ix, c->channel, c->channelFlags);
@@ -4632,6 +4664,7 @@
 	}
 	free(chans, M_TEMP);
 	return 0;
+#undef IS_CHAN_PUBLIC_SAFETY
 #undef COMPAT
 }
 

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On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 03:06:00PM +0300, Yousef Raffah wrote:
> Why should I define it from the card's BIOS? Is it done through the
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That's if it's a compaq server -- unfortunately the Compaq controllers
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Janet Sullivan wrote:

> Mike Jakubik wrote:
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>> arrive at the sacrifice of stability. I think FreeBSD should only be 
>> released when known major bugs are worked out. A known broken release 
>> to me and most new users is useless, lets not release simply for the 
>> sake of numbering.
>
>
> For me, and many other quiet users, FreeBSD *IS* stable.  I've been 
> running 6.1 since the BETAs with no issues.

Likewise, or at least very few.

> No, I don't use quotas.  I doubt the majority of FreeBSD users do.

I don't either, but "the majority of FreeBSD users" is a shifting thing, 
and very hard to make generalisations about. Once quota was about shell 
users, now it's more common for mail servers to manage storage quotas in 
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are less shell users due to more convenient and "user friendly" 
networking applications that provide functionality that can be more 
easily secured.

Quotas are now used more often with samba than anything else, and of 
course it's use has skyrocketted in recent years for obvious reasons. So 
who knows...


Regards,
David

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Pyun,

Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 04:22:15PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
>  > On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 07:48:46PM -0800, Clint Olsen wrote..
>  > > On Mar 28, Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
>  > > > and sparc64(SMP) and I never see above errors.  The only issue known to
>  > > > me is occasional watchdog timeout error which I really want to fix. But
>  > > > the watchdog timeout error is hard to reproduce and I couldn't reproduce
>  > > > the error on my system.
>  > > 
>  > > I'm still seeing the watchdog timeout on 5.5-PRERELEASE (uni-processor):
>  > > 
>  > > Mar 22 14:47:04 belle kernel: sk0: watchdog timeout
>  > > Mar 24 08:37:19 belle kernel: sk0: watchdog timeout
>  > > Mar 27 04:09:15 belle kernel: sk0: watchdog timeout
>  > > 
>  > > But at least the driver doesn't wedge the interface now.
>  > 
>  > Yes, same here on 6.1-PRERELEASE:
>  > 
>  > ch0: 10 slots, 1 drive, 1 picker, 0 portals
>  > sk0: watchdog timeout
>  > sk0: watchdog timeout
>  > 
>
> Ok, here is a new patch that try to fix the watchdog timeout error.
> I don't know it will eradicate the bug as I don't see the watchdog
> error on my system.
> The patch borrowed Yukon specific register definition from Linux
> driver and adopted Yukon FIFO related operations from Linux. I don't
> know exact meaning of the registers(it's just guessing) but it seems
> it doesn't hurt on my system.
>
> You may have to download 4 files to build the driver.
> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_skreg.h
> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/xmaciireg.h
> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/yukonreg.h
>   
I compiled new sk driver on 6.1-RC, however I couldn't get it work.
When I load module I get:

May  8 12:04:56 proxy kernel: skc0: <Marvell Gigabit Ethernet> port 
0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xfe3fc000-0xfe3fffff irq 20 at device 3.0 on pci6
May  8 12:04:56 proxy kernel: skc0: unknown media type: 0x31
May  8 12:04:56 proxy kernel: device_attach: skc0 attach returned 6

Machine:
FreeBSD 6.1-RC #1: Mon May  8 11:40:01 ULAST 2006
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Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz (2992.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3
  
Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
  Features2=0x641d<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,CNTX-ID,CX16,<b14>>
  AMD Features=0x20100000<NX,LM>
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 1073479680 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041559552 (993 MB)
...

pciconf -lv
...
skc0@pci6:3:0:  class=0x020000 card=0x432011ab chip=0x432011ab rev=0x14 
hdr=0x00
    vendor   = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)'
    device   = '88E8001/8003/8010 Gigabit Ethernet Controller with 
Integrated PHY (copper)'
    class    = network
    subclass = ethernet
...
Is this NIC supported by if_sk driver?

thanks,

Ganbold


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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:15:54PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
 > Pyun,
 > 
 > Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
 > >On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 04:22:15PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 > > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 07:48:46PM -0800, Clint Olsen wrote..
 > > > > On Mar 28, Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
 > > > > > and sparc64(SMP) and I never see above errors.  The only issue 
 > > known to
 > > > > > me is occasional watchdog timeout error which I really want to fix. 
 > > But
 > > > > > the watchdog timeout error is hard to reproduce and I couldn't 
 > > reproduce
 > > > > > the error on my system.
 > > > > 
 > > > > I'm still seeing the watchdog timeout on 5.5-PRERELEASE 
 > > (uni-processor):
 > > > > 
 > > > > Mar 22 14:47:04 belle kernel: sk0: watchdog timeout
 > > > > Mar 24 08:37:19 belle kernel: sk0: watchdog timeout
 > > > > Mar 27 04:09:15 belle kernel: sk0: watchdog timeout
 > > > > 
 > > > > But at least the driver doesn't wedge the interface now.
 > > > 
 > > > Yes, same here on 6.1-PRERELEASE:
 > > > 
 > > > ch0: 10 slots, 1 drive, 1 picker, 0 portals
 > > > sk0: watchdog timeout
 > > > sk0: watchdog timeout
 > > > 
 > >
 > >Ok, here is a new patch that try to fix the watchdog timeout error.
 > >I don't know it will eradicate the bug as I don't see the watchdog
 > >error on my system.
 > >The patch borrowed Yukon specific register definition from Linux
 > >driver and adopted Yukon FIFO related operations from Linux. I don't
 > >know exact meaning of the registers(it's just guessing) but it seems
 > >it doesn't hurt on my system.
 > >
 > >You may have to download 4 files to build the driver.
 > >http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
 > >http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_skreg.h
 > >http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/xmaciireg.h
 > >http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/yukonreg.h
 > >  
 > I compiled new sk driver on 6.1-RC, however I couldn't get it work.
 > When I load module I get:
 > 
 > May  8 12:04:56 proxy kernel: skc0: <Marvell Gigabit Ethernet> port 
 > 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xfe3fc000-0xfe3fffff irq 20 at device 3.0 on pci6
 > May  8 12:04:56 proxy kernel: skc0: unknown media type: 0x31
 > May  8 12:04:56 proxy kernel: device_attach: skc0 attach returned 6
 > 
 > Machine:
 > FreeBSD 6.1-RC #1: Mon May  8 11:40:01 ULAST 2006
 >    tsgan@proxy.micom.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PROXY
 > ACPI APIC Table: <DELL   PE1800  >
 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz (2992.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
 >  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3
 >  
 > Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
 >  Features2=0x641d<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,CNTX-ID,CX16,<b14>>
 >  AMD Features=0x20100000<NX,LM>
 >  Logical CPUs per core: 2
 > real memory  = 1073479680 (1023 MB)
 > avail memory = 1041559552 (993 MB)
 > ...
 > 
 > pciconf -lv
 > ...
 > skc0@pci6:3:0:  class=0x020000 card=0x432011ab chip=0x432011ab rev=0x14 
 > hdr=0x00
 >    vendor   = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)'
 >    device   = '88E8001/8003/8010 Gigabit Ethernet Controller with 
 > Integrated PHY (copper)'
 >    class    = network
 >    subclass = ethernet
 > ...
 > Is this NIC supported by if_sk driver?
 > 

Hmm, It seems that the NIC is SysKonnect V2.0(SK98XX2) which is
supposed to work with sk(4). Did it ever work with sk(4)?

I see there is differences between sk(4) and Linux skge driver 
in determining physical media type. It seems OpenBSD also
used Linux skge approach.

 > thanks,
 > 
 > Ganbold
 > 

-- 
Regards,
Pyun YongHyeon

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On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 12:10:46AM -0400, Miles Lubin wrote:
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 > 
 > >On Fri, 5 May 2006, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 > >
 > >>I had a similar event last night, on a P4 on an Asus P4P800.  The current
 > >>driver is much less prone to this lockup problem than it used to be.  In 
 > >>my
 > >>case it does not have to be in a high-load situation, it appears to happen
 > >>rather randomly (and *very* infrequently)
 > >>
 > >>FreeBSD freebie.xs4all.nl 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #2: Thu 
 > >>May
 > >>4 22:37:22 CEST 2006
 > >
 > >The updated driver has been in HEAD for some days and the problem
 > >should be fixed there thanks to Pyun. See last commits to src/sys/dev/sk/*
 > >
 > >-- 
 > >Bjoern A. Zeeb				bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT
 > >
 > >
 > 
 > 
 > Is is possible and/or a good idea to just take the driver in head and 
 > compile it with 6.1-RC?
 > 

If you have issues related with sk(4), you can take the driver in 
HEAD and compile, it should work on 6.1R. You may need to edit
Makefile in order to reflect new location of sk(/sys/dev/sk) driver.

 > I know this is rather late in the release process, but given that this 
 > issue will affect many people, I think it should be considered fixixing 
 > this driver for 6.1.
 > 
 > 
 > Miles

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Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:15:54PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > Pyun,
>  > 
>  > ...
>  > Is this NIC supported by if_sk driver?
>  > 
>
> Hmm, It seems that the NIC is SysKonnect V2.0(SK98XX2) which is
> supposed to work with sk(4). Did it ever work with sk(4)?
>   
No, it is new server and it came with such additional NIC.
> I see there is differences between sk(4) and Linux skge driver 
> in determining physical media type. It seems OpenBSD also
> used Linux skge approach.
>   
I'll try to take a look at linux/openbsd drivers.

Ganbold
>  > thanks,
>  > 
>  > Ganbold
>  > 
>
>   


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David Nugent wrote:
> Janet Sullivan wrote:
>> No, I don't use quotas.  I doubt the majority of FreeBSD users do.
>
> I don't either, but "the majority of FreeBSD users" is a shifting 
> thing, and very hard to make generalisations about. Once quota was 
> about shell users, now it's more common for mail servers to manage 
> storage quotas in a more appropriate way according to their storage 
> mechanism and there are less shell users due to more convenient and 
> "user friendly" networking applications that provide functionality 
> that can be more easily secured.
>
> Quotas are now used more often with samba than anything else, and of 
> course it's use has skyrocketted in recent years for obvious reasons. 
> So who knows...

Quotas are important to certain mail servers as you mention, and they 
are also very important for webhosting. Hosting solutions such as Plesk 
utilize quotas. As we all know, fbsd has been the OS of choice for 
webhosting, lets not let that slip away.


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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:34:34AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
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> >
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> >
> >Quotas are now used more often with samba than anything else, and of=20
> >course it's use has skyrocketted in recent years for obvious reasons.=20
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> Quotas are important to certain mail servers as you mention, and they=20
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Feel free to stop beating the dead horse any day now...

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On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 10:33 -0600, security wrote:
> Daniel Eriksson wrote:
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> >Yousef Raffah wrote:
> > =20
> >
> >>How can I have my volumes configured? Is it after the system is being
> >>installed or during installation? Please forgive my newbie=20
> >>questions :|
> >>   =20
> >>
> >
> >You need to configure your arrays BEFORE you install FreeBSD. Once the
> >arrays have been set up properly you can install FreeBSD. Because the
> >card presents each array that you have defined as a regular disk to the
> >system, just select the appropriate disk (most likely da0) during
> >sysinstall to get FreeBSD to partition/slice it up for you.
> > =20
> >
> Try and get the SmartStart CD's (from HP).  It'll make setting up lots=20
> easier and you can load the latest code on the controllers.
OK, I found out that my array has been already set up as RAID 5, which
is what I'm looking for. Do you think it is time now to configure the
volumes or is there something else needs to be done before that?


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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 02:25:48PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
 > Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
 > >On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:15:54PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
 > > > Pyun,
 > > > 
 > > > ...
 > > > Is this NIC supported by if_sk driver?
 > > > 
 > >
 > >Hmm, It seems that the NIC is SysKonnect V2.0(SK98XX2) which is
 > >supposed to work with sk(4). Did it ever work with sk(4)?
 > >  
 > No, it is new server and it came with such additional NIC.
 > >I see there is differences between sk(4) and Linux skge driver 
 > >in determining physical media type. It seems OpenBSD also
 > >used Linux skge approach.
 > >  
 > I'll try to take a look at linux/openbsd drivers.
 > 

How about attached one? It's not tested but it may help your
situation.

 > Ganbold
 > > > thanks,
 > > > 
 > > > Ganbold
 > > > 
 > >
 > >  
 > 

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--- if_sk.c.orig	Thu May  4 10:27:39 2006
+++ if_sk.c	Mon May  8 14:48:33 2006
@@ -1604,14 +1604,15 @@
 		}
 	} else {
 		if (sc_if->sk_phytype < SK_PHYTYPE_MARV_COPPER &&
-		    sc->sk_pmd == IFM_1000_T) {
+		    sc->sk_pmd != 'S') {
 			/* not initialized, punt */
 			sc_if->sk_phytype = SK_PHYTYPE_MARV_COPPER;
+			sc->sk_coppertype = 1;
 		}
 
 		sc_if->sk_phyaddr = SK_PHYADDR_MARV;
 
-		if (sc->sk_pmd != IFM_1000_T && sc->sk_pmd != IFM_1000_CX)
+		if (!(sc->sk_coppertype))
 			sc_if->sk_phytype = SK_PHYTYPE_MARV_FIBER;
 	}
 
@@ -1788,31 +1789,12 @@
 	}
 
 	/* Read and save physical media type */
-	switch(sk_win_read_1(sc, SK_PMDTYPE)) {
-	case SK_PMD_1000BASESX:
-		sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_SX;
-		break;
-	case SK_PMD_1000BASELX:
-		sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_LX;
-		break;
-	case SK_PMD_1000BASECX:
-		sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_CX;
-		break;
-	case SK_PMD_1000BASETX:
-		sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_T;
-		break;
-	default:
-		if (SK_YUKON_FAMILY(sc->sk_type) && (sk_win_read_1(sc, SK_EPROM1) 
-		    & 0xF) < SK_PHYTYPE_MARV_COPPER) {
-			/* not initialized, punt */
-			sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_T;
-			break;
-		}
-		device_printf(dev, "unknown media type: 0x%x\n",
-		    sk_win_read_1(sc, SK_PMDTYPE));
-		error = ENXIO;
-		goto fail;
-	}
+	 sc->sk_pmd = sk_win_read_1(sc, SK_PMDTYPE);
+
+	 if (sc->sk_pmd == 'T' || sc->sk_pmd == '1')
+		 sc->sk_coppertype = 1;
+	 else
+		 sc->sk_coppertype = 0;
 
 	/* Determine whether to name it with VPD PN or just make it up.
 	 * Marvell Yukon VPD PN seems to freqently be bogus. */
@@ -3722,17 +3704,10 @@
 	phy = SK_GPHY_INT_POL_HI | SK_GPHY_DIS_FC | SK_GPHY_DIS_SLEEP |
 		SK_GPHY_ENA_XC | SK_GPHY_ANEG_ALL | SK_GPHY_ENA_PAUSE;
 
-	switch(sc_if->sk_softc->sk_pmd) {
-	case IFM_1000_SX:
-	case IFM_1000_LX:
-		phy |= SK_GPHY_FIBER;
-		break;
-
-	case IFM_1000_CX:
-	case IFM_1000_T:
+	if (sc->sk_coppertype)
 		phy |= SK_GPHY_COPPER;
-		break;
-	}
+	else
+		phy |= SK_GPHY_FIBER;
 
 	SK_IF_WRITE_4(sc_if, 0, SK_GPHY_CTRL, phy | SK_GPHY_RESET_SET);
 	DELAY(1000);
--- if_skreg.h.orig	Tue May  2 11:12:42 2006
+++ if_skreg.h	Mon May  8 14:48:33 2006
@@ -1535,6 +1535,7 @@
 	u_int32_t		sk_rboff;	/* RAMbuffer offset */
 	u_int32_t		sk_ramsize;	/* amount of RAM on NIC */
 	u_int32_t		sk_pmd;		/* physical media type */
+	u_int32_t		sk_coppertype;
 	u_int32_t		sk_intrmask;
 	int			sk_int_mod;
 	int			sk_int_ticks;

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Pyun,

I can not apply the patch cleanly on 
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
What version of sk driver should I use?

Ganbold


Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 02:25:48PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
>  > >On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:15:54PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > > > Pyun,
>  > > > 
>  > > > ...
>  > > > Is this NIC supported by if_sk driver?
>  > > > 
>  > >
>  > >Hmm, It seems that the NIC is SysKonnect V2.0(SK98XX2) which is
>  > >supposed to work with sk(4). Did it ever work with sk(4)?
>  > >  
>  > No, it is new server and it came with such additional NIC.
>  > >I see there is differences between sk(4) and Linux skge driver 
>  > >in determining physical media type. It seems OpenBSD also
>  > >used Linux skge approach.
>  > >  
>  > I'll try to take a look at linux/openbsd drivers.
>  > 
>
> How about attached one? It's not tested but it may help your
> situation.
>
>  > Ganbold
>  > > > thanks,
>  > > > 
>  > > > Ganbold
>  > > > 
>  > >
>  > >  
>  > 
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --- if_sk.c.orig	Thu May  4 10:27:39 2006
> +++ if_sk.c	Mon May  8 14:48:33 2006
> @@ -1604,14 +1604,15 @@
>  		}
>  	} else {
>  		if (sc_if->sk_phytype < SK_PHYTYPE_MARV_COPPER &&
> -		    sc->sk_pmd == IFM_1000_T) {
> +		    sc->sk_pmd != 'S') {
>  			/* not initialized, punt */
>  			sc_if->sk_phytype = SK_PHYTYPE_MARV_COPPER;
> +			sc->sk_coppertype = 1;
>  		}
>  
>  		sc_if->sk_phyaddr = SK_PHYADDR_MARV;
>  
> -		if (sc->sk_pmd != IFM_1000_T && sc->sk_pmd != IFM_1000_CX)
> +		if (!(sc->sk_coppertype))
>  			sc_if->sk_phytype = SK_PHYTYPE_MARV_FIBER;
>  	}
>  
> @@ -1788,31 +1789,12 @@
>  	}
>  
>  	/* Read and save physical media type */
> -	switch(sk_win_read_1(sc, SK_PMDTYPE)) {
> -	case SK_PMD_1000BASESX:
> -		sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_SX;
> -		break;
> -	case SK_PMD_1000BASELX:
> -		sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_LX;
> -		break;
> -	case SK_PMD_1000BASECX:
> -		sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_CX;
> -		break;
> -	case SK_PMD_1000BASETX:
> -		sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_T;
> -		break;
> -	default:
> -		if (SK_YUKON_FAMILY(sc->sk_type) && (sk_win_read_1(sc, SK_EPROM1) 
> -		    & 0xF) < SK_PHYTYPE_MARV_COPPER) {
> -			/* not initialized, punt */
> -			sc->sk_pmd = IFM_1000_T;
> -			break;
> -		}
> -		device_printf(dev, "unknown media type: 0x%x\n",
> -		    sk_win_read_1(sc, SK_PMDTYPE));
> -		error = ENXIO;
> -		goto fail;
> -	}
> +	 sc->sk_pmd = sk_win_read_1(sc, SK_PMDTYPE);
> +
> +	 if (sc->sk_pmd == 'T' || sc->sk_pmd == '1')
> +		 sc->sk_coppertype = 1;
> +	 else
> +		 sc->sk_coppertype = 0;
>  
>  	/* Determine whether to name it with VPD PN or just make it up.
>  	 * Marvell Yukon VPD PN seems to freqently be bogus. */
> @@ -3722,17 +3704,10 @@
>  	phy = SK_GPHY_INT_POL_HI | SK_GPHY_DIS_FC | SK_GPHY_DIS_SLEEP |
>  		SK_GPHY_ENA_XC | SK_GPHY_ANEG_ALL | SK_GPHY_ENA_PAUSE;
>  
> -	switch(sc_if->sk_softc->sk_pmd) {
> -	case IFM_1000_SX:
> -	case IFM_1000_LX:
> -		phy |= SK_GPHY_FIBER;
> -		break;
> -
> -	case IFM_1000_CX:
> -	case IFM_1000_T:
> +	if (sc->sk_coppertype)
>  		phy |= SK_GPHY_COPPER;
> -		break;
> -	}
> +	else
> +		phy |= SK_GPHY_FIBER;
>  
>  	SK_IF_WRITE_4(sc_if, 0, SK_GPHY_CTRL, phy | SK_GPHY_RESET_SET);
>  	DELAY(1000);
> --- if_skreg.h.orig	Tue May  2 11:12:42 2006
> +++ if_skreg.h	Mon May  8 14:48:33 2006
> @@ -1535,6 +1535,7 @@
>  	u_int32_t		sk_rboff;	/* RAMbuffer offset */
>  	u_int32_t		sk_ramsize;	/* amount of RAM on NIC */
>  	u_int32_t		sk_pmd;		/* physical media type */
> +	u_int32_t		sk_coppertype;
>  	u_int32_t		sk_intrmask;
>  	int			sk_int_mod;
>  	int			sk_int_ticks;
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:13:28PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
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 > I can not apply the patch cleanly on 
 > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
 > What version of sk driver should I use?
 > 

The patch was generated against HEAD.

 > Ganbold
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Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:13:28PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > Pyun,
>  > 
>  > I can not apply the patch cleanly on 
>  > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
>  > What version of sk driver should I use?
>  > 
>
> The patch was generated against HEAD.
>   
I see, but how can I MFC to RELENG_6? I can't build it on RELENG_6.

thanks,

Ganbold

>  > Ganbold
>  > 
>   


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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:51:55PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
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 > >On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:13:28PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
 > > > Pyun,
 > > > 
 > > > I can not apply the patch cleanly on 
 > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
 > > > What version of sk driver should I use?
 > > > 
 > >
 > >The patch was generated against HEAD.
 > >  
 > I see, but how can I MFC to RELENG_6? I can't build it on RELENG_6.
 > 

Ok, copy the following files to /sys/dev/sk.(You may need to create
the directory on 6.x.)
>From the files in http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/
if_sk.c         -->     /sys/dev/sk
if_skreg.h      -->     /sys/dev/sk
xmaciireg.h     -->     /sys/dev/sk
yukonreg.h      -->     /sys/dev/sk

And
Makefile        -->     /sys/modules/sk

 > thanks,
 > 
 > Ganbold
 > 
 > > > Ganbold
 > > > 
 > >  
 > 

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Pyun YongHyeon

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Just a follow up.

-RC2 did not resolve this problem, nor did 6.1-STABLE (as of around 8hrs 
ago).

I am eager to work with the community in resolving these issues.

I have applied the patches described at:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/nve/if_nve.c.diff?r1=1.18&r2=1.19&f=h
and
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/nve/if_nvereg.h.diff?r1=1.6&r2=1.7&f=h

in order to get the Onboard ethernet to work. These problems exist even 
without applying that patch however.

Below is a dmesg and uname of an affected machine:

Cheers
J



[jared@aoi ~]$ dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #1: Mon May  8 11:49:24 EST 2006
     root@aoi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ (2210.07-MHz K8-class CPU)
   Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x30f72  Stepping = 2
 
Features=0x78bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2>
   Features2=0x1<SSE3>
   AMD Features=0xe2500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,LM,3DNow+,3DNow>
   AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
real memory  = 1056702464 (1007 MB)
avail memory = 1008156672 (961 MB)
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: <A M I OEMRSDT> on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x508-0x50b on acpi0
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.2 (no driver attached)
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.3 (no driver attached)
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.4 (no driver attached)
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.5 (no driver attached)
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.6 (no driver attached)
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.7 (no driver attached)
pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 2.0 on pci0
pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 3.0 on pci0
pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
pci0: <display, VGA> at device 5.0 (no driver attached)
pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 9.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 10.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 10.1 (no driver attached)
ohci0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> mem 0xfebde000-0xfebdefff irq 5 
at device 11.0 on pci0
ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
ehci0: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xfebdfc00-0xfebdfcff irq 
7 at device 11.1 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: EHCI version 1.0
usb1: companion controller, 8 ports each: usb0
usb1: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0
usb1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1: nVidia EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
atapci0: <nVidia nForce MCP51 UDMA133 controller> port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 13.0 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
atapci1: <nVidia nForce MCP51 SATA300 controller> port 
0xe800-0xe807,0xe480-0xe483,0xe400-0xe407,0xe080-0xe083,0xe000-0xe00f 
mem 0xfebdd000-0xfebddfff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0
ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
atapci2: <nVidia nForce MCP51 SATA300 controller> port 
0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f 
mem 0xfebdc000-0xfebdcfff irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0
ata4: <ATA channel 0> on atapci2
ata5: <ATA channel 1> on atapci2
pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 16.0 on pci0
pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
nve0: <NVIDIA nForce MCP13 Networking Adapter> port 0xd080-0xd087 mem 
0xfebdb000-0xfebdbfff irq 7 at device 20.0 on pci0
nve0: Ethernet address 00:15:f2:5e:58:09
miibus0: <MII bus> on nve0
ukphy0: <Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface> on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 
1000baseT-FDX, auto
nve0: Ethernet address: 00:15:f2:5e:58:09
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
fdc0: <floppy drive controller (FDE)> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 
on acpi0
fdc0: [FAST]
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4
ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
ugen0: Powerware Powerware UPS, rev 0.20/0.50, addr 2
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2210072188 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (amr_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6
ad0: 152627MB <WDC WD1600SB-01KBC0 08.02D08> at ata0-master UDMA100
ad1: 152627MB <WDC WD1600SB-01KBC0 08.02D08> at ata0-slave UDMA100
ad4: 238475MB <WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 02.01C03> at ata2-master SATA300
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0 created (id=124972809).
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 detected.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad1 detected.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad1 activated.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 activated.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider mirror/gm0 launched.
ad8: 238475MB <WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 02.01C03> at ata4-master SATA300
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a
nve0: device timeout (1)
nve0: link state changed to DOWN
nve0: link state changed to UP

[jared@aoi ~]$ uname -a
FreeBSD aoi 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #1: Mon May  8 11:49:24 EST 
2006     root@aoi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64



Jared wrote:
> Hi -stable!
> 
> I'd like to bring something to the attention of -stable that was posted 
> to -amd64 but has not yet being resolved:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=amd64/95554
> 
> I'm unable to test to see if this occurs on i386 aswell so am unsure if 
> this is the right list to post to. But it appears to me that it would be 
> something that should be addressed prior to 6.1-RELEASE.
> 
> I am experiencing the same problem as described in the original PR, but 
> with Western Digital hard drives and the latest  BIOS version (1001) 
> which is known to fix the ACPI DSDT bugs that have plagued these boards.
> 
> I have not liased with the mailling lists before if you need any more 
> information please ask and I'll supply what I can as best I can. But the 
> original PR is well written.
> 
> I will also see if RC-2 resolves this when cvsup has RC2 and I can build 
> an RC2 world/kernel.
> 
> Cheers
> and Thanks for a great operating system
> 
> Jared
> 
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Michael Gerhards wrote:

>But by browsing through this list I found the thread "sk0: watchdog timeout"
>and the problem described there is quite similiar to what I get here. So
>perhaps this bug in the sk driver is also the cause for my trouble here?!
>  
>

Possibly (and even likely). It sounds like a very severe case of the 
same thing.

I have been running a Marvell/Yukon 100mb adapter on FreeBSD RELENG_6 
(the onboard NIC on an ASUS mb) and it does sometimes reset connections 
and dmesg shows the timeout maybe 2 or 3 times a day.  The system is 
used in-house only and does not have high load (well, except for burst 
load when serving samba and NFS shared ${PORTSDIR}/distfiles, which 
overall works fine), so it is useable with the occasional but rarely 
noticeable glitch, like a connection pausing for 10-15 seconds then 
resuming.

Currently running:

FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #1: Thu Feb 23 09:03:11 EST 2006
~
skc0: <Marvell Gigabit Ethernet> port 0xd400-0xd4ff mem 
0xfeaf8000-0xfeafbfff irq 22 at device 5.0 on pci2
skc0: Marvell Yukon Lite Gigabit Ethernet rev. A3(0x7)
sk0: <Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yukon> on skc0

I should mention that this is a vast improvement from a couple years ago 
under 5.0 and 5.1 it would attach the driver to the card but the 
interface was not functional at all.

>Can I somehow use this patch for sk0 _without_ changing everything to 
>-current? Acutually, I wanted to stay to 6.1-RELEASE... 
>  
>
Apparently the timeout problem is fixed in -CURRENT, and will be merged 
after 6.1-RELEASE. Enjoy.


Tracking -STABLE is a Good Thing, IMHO, quite aside from the security 
updates, bugs which don't even affect you right now (but may do 
sometime) get fixed, and the -STABLE tag tends to be quite appropriate.  
I only ever used -RELEASE media for the initial install. A system I run 
at home was originally installed from FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT, also now 
running a mid-Feb 6.1-PRERELEASE, upgraded from sources many many times 
over (build world+kernel takes just under 3 days). :-)


Regards,
David

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Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:51:55PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
>  > >On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:13:28PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > > > Pyun,
>  > > > 
>  > > > I can not apply the patch cleanly on 
>  > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
>  > > > What version of sk driver should I use?
>  > > > 
>  > >
>  > >The patch was generated against HEAD.
>  > >  
>  > I see, but how can I MFC to RELENG_6? I can't build it on RELENG_6.
>  > 
>
> Ok, copy the following files to /sys/dev/sk.(You may need to create
> the directory on 6.x.)
> >From the files in http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/
> if_sk.c         -->     /sys/dev/sk
> if_skreg.h      -->     /sys/dev/sk
> xmaciireg.h     -->     /sys/dev/sk
> yukonreg.h      -->     /sys/dev/sk
>
> And
> Makefile        -->     /sys/modules/sk
>   
Still can't compile.

cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE 
-nostdinc -I-   -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -I/usr/include 
-finline-limit=8000 -fno-common  -mno-align-long-strings 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 
-ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs 
-Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline 
-Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c 
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c
In file included from /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:130:
@/dev/sk/if_skreg.h:995:15: no newline at end of file
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:146: error: elements of 
array `sk_devs' have incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:148: warning: excess 
elements in struct initializer
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:148: warning: (near 
initialization for `sk_devs[0]')
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:149: warning: excess 
elements in struct initializer
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:149: warning: (near 
initialization for `sk_devs[0]')
...

Ganbold
>  > thanks,
>  > 
>  > Ganbold
>  > 
>  > > > Ganbold
>  > > > 
>  > >  
>  > 
>
>   


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On 5/8/06, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> Iantcho Vassilev wrote:
> > Hello to all,
> >
> >
> > I noticed such a problem:
> >
> > I have a 6.1 RC2
>
> Step one should be to upgrade to the latest 6-stable, and run mergemaster=
.


I will do that in  the next couple of days because i did it 5 days ago..


> and i have in rc.conf
> >
> > pf_enable=3D"YES"
> > pflogd_enable=3D"YES"
>
> I think you already corrected yourself to say that you have pflog_enable,
> not pflogd_, correct?



I have pflog_enable from the beginning...in the list i made a mistake and
wrote pflogd..


> but when the system boots i test with:
> >
> > pfctl -vs rules
> >
> > and there are not rules loaded.if i load them by hand there is no
> problem..
>
> When you say "load them by hand," what do you do exactly?



I mean: pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf

> then i made:
> >
> > rc_debug=3D"YES"
>
> Try adding rc_info=3Dyes as well.


I have tried ..but nothing  new is showing...

> and the first thing that i saw was: when pf_enable is after pflogd_enable
> ;
> > it is not printed(checked)..
>
> The order of the variables in your rc.conf file is not relevant.
>
> > i put pf_load=3D"YES" >> /boot/loader.conf
> > and still the ruleset is NOT loaded on boot...
>
> The rc system doesn't know anything about /boot/loader.conf.
>
> I'm also interested in what happens if you add -v to the pf_flags. What
> are
> the permissions on /etc/pf.conf?



If i add pf_flags=3D"-v" nothing happens..
The permissions are: 755



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Hi,

I'm having trouble to make my Netgear Gigabit PCI GA311 network card 
work in 1000baseTX in FreeBSD-6.1RC. It runs fine on 100baseTX mode with 
Cat5 cable, however it doesn't with Cat5e/Cat6 cabling in 
100baseTX/1000baseTX mode. It simply says no carrier.
The system also panics right after the boot when it is connected 
100baseTX network. When I disconnect the cable the system boots fine.
I will test more this card in couple of days and will try to get debug 
messages when panics.

The card is based on Realtec 8169S chipset.

re0@pci0:12:0:  class=0x020000 card=0x311a1385 chip=0x816910ec rev=0x10 
hdr=0x00
    vendor   = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
    device   = 'RTL8169 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter'
    class    = network
    subclass = ethernet

daemon# uname -an
FreeBSD daemon.micom.mng.net 6.1-RC FreeBSD 6.1-RC #10: Wed May  3 
18:03:26 ULAST 2006     
root@daemon.micom.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAEMON  i386

Is there any such known issues with re driver?

thanks,

Ganbold

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Ganbold wrote this message on Mon, May 08, 2006 at 17:23 +0900:
> I'm having trouble to make my Netgear Gigabit PCI GA311 network card 
> work in 1000baseTX in FreeBSD-6.1RC. It runs fine on 100baseTX mode with 
> Cat5 cable, however it doesn't with Cat5e/Cat6 cabling in 

Does it work at 1000baseTX w/ Cat5 cabling?

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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 04:53:10PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
 > Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
 > >On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:51:55PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
 > > > Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
 > > > >On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:13:28PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
 > > > > > Pyun,
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > I can not apply the patch cleanly on 
 > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
 > > > > > What version of sk driver should I use?
 > > > > > 
 > > > >
 > > > >The patch was generated against HEAD.
 > > > >  
 > > > I see, but how can I MFC to RELENG_6? I can't build it on RELENG_6.
 > > > 
 > >
 > >Ok, copy the following files to /sys/dev/sk.(You may need to create
 > >the directory on 6.x.)
 > >>From the files in http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/
 > >if_sk.c         -->     /sys/dev/sk
 > >if_skreg.h      -->     /sys/dev/sk
 > >xmaciireg.h     -->     /sys/dev/sk
 > >yukonreg.h      -->     /sys/dev/sk
 > >
 > >And
 > >Makefile        -->     /sys/modules/sk
 > >  
 > Still can't compile.
 > 
 > cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE 
 > -nostdinc -I-   -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -I/usr/include 
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 > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 
 > -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs 
 > -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline 
 > -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c 
 > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c
 > In file included from /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:130:
 > @/dev/sk/if_skreg.h:995:15: no newline at end of file

I can't understand. There *IS* a newline at the end of file.
Checking with hd(1) shows a newline character.

If it break it should also break HEAD tinderbox too.

 > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:146: error: elements of 
 > array `sk_devs' have incomplete type
 > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:148: warning: excess 
 > elements in struct initializer
 > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:148: warning: (near 
 > initialization for `sk_devs[0]')
 > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:149: warning: excess 
 > elements in struct initializer
 > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:149: warning: (near 
 > initialization for `sk_devs[0]')
 > ...
 > 
 > Ganbold
 > > > thanks,
 > > > 
 > > > Ganbold
 > > > 
 > > > > > Ganbold
 > > > > > 
 > > > >  
 > > > 
 > >
 > >  
 > 

-- 
Regards,
Pyun YongHyeon

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John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> Ganbold wrote this message on Mon, May 08, 2006 at 17:23 +0900:
>   
>> I'm having trouble to make my Netgear Gigabit PCI GA311 network card 
>> work in 1000baseTX in FreeBSD-6.1RC. It runs fine on 100baseTX mode with 
>> Cat5 cable, however it doesn't with Cat5e/Cat6 cabling in 
>>     
>
> Does it work at 1000baseTX w/ Cat5 cabling?
>   
I thought Cat5 only supports 100baseTX and I didn't test 1000baseTX w/ Cat5.
It is not working at 1000baseTX with Cat5e/Cat6 cabling.

Ganbold



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> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 04:53:10PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
>  > >On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:51:55PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > > > Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
>  > > > >On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:13:28PM +0900, Ganbold wrote:
>  > > > > > Pyun,
>  > > > > > 
>  > > > > > I can not apply the patch cleanly on 
>  > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/if_sk.c
>  > > > > > What version of sk driver should I use?
>  > > > > > 
>  > > > >
>  > > > >The patch was generated against HEAD.
>  > > > >  
>  > > > I see, but how can I MFC to RELENG_6? I can't build it on RELENG_6.
>  > > > 
>  > >
>  > >Ok, copy the following files to /sys/dev/sk.(You may need to create
>  > >the directory on 6.x.)
>  > >>From the files in http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test2/
>  > >if_sk.c         -->     /sys/dev/sk
>  > >if_skreg.h      -->     /sys/dev/sk
>  > >xmaciireg.h     -->     /sys/dev/sk
>  > >yukonreg.h      -->     /sys/dev/sk
>  > >
>  > >And
>  > >Makefile        -->     /sys/modules/sk
>  > >  
>  > Still can't compile.
>  > 
>  > cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE 
>  > -nostdinc -I-   -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -I/usr/include 
>  > -finline-limit=8000 -fno-common  -mno-align-long-strings 
>  > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 
>  > -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs 
>  > -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline 
>  > -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c 
>  > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c
>  > In file included from /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:130:
>  > @/dev/sk/if_skreg.h:995:15: no newline at end of file
>
> I can't understand. There *IS* a newline at the end of file.
> Checking with hd(1) shows a newline character.
>
> If it break it should also break HEAD tinderbox too.
>   
I think new line is not a problem. The problematic line says 
"/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:146: error: elements of 
array `sk_devs' have incomplete type"

daemon# make
Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/sys/modules/sk
cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE 
-nostdinc -I-   -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include 
-finline-limit=8000 -fno-common  -mno-align-long-strings 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 
-ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs 
-Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline 
-Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c 
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:146: error: elements of 
array `sk_devs' have incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:148: warning: excess 
elements in struct initializer
...

Ganbold

>  > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:146: error: elements of 
>  > array `sk_devs' have incomplete type
>  > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:148: warning: excess 
>  > elements in struct initializer
>  > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:148: warning: (near 
>  > initialization for `sk_devs[0]')
>  > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:149: warning: excess 
>  > elements in struct initializer
>  > /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../dev/sk/if_sk.c:149: warning: (near 
>  > initialization for `sk_devs[0]')
>  > ...
>  > 
>  > Ganbold
>  > > > thanks,
>  > > > 
>  > > > Ganbold
>  > > > 
>  > > > > > Ganbold
>  > > > > > 
>  > > > >  
>  > > > 
>  > >
>  > >  
>  > 
>
>   


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Ganbold wrote this message on Mon, May 08, 2006 at 17:35 +0900:
> John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> >Ganbold wrote this message on Mon, May 08, 2006 at 17:23 +0900:
> >  
> >>I'm having trouble to make my Netgear Gigabit PCI GA311 network card 
> >>work in 1000baseTX in FreeBSD-6.1RC. It runs fine on 100baseTX mode with 
> >>Cat5 cable, however it doesn't with Cat5e/Cat6 cabling in 
> >
> >Does it work at 1000baseTX w/ Cat5 cabling?
> >  
> I thought Cat5 only supports 100baseTX and I didn't test 1000baseTX w/ Cat5.

Nope, 1000Base-T (no X) is speced for Cat5 cabling..  As per the 802.3
spec 40.1:
1000BASE-T signaling requires four pairs of Category 5 balanced cabling,
as specified in ISO/IEC 11801:1995 and ANSI/EIA/TIA-568-A (1995) and
tested for the additional performance parameters specified in 40.7 using
testing procedures defined in proposed ANSI/TIA/EIA TSB95.

> It is not working at 1000baseTX with Cat5e/Cat6 cabling.

It's wierd that it works at 100Base-TX w/ Cat5, but not w/ Cat5e...
Is there differences in the cable length or something?  Have you tried
w/ just normal Cat5?

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John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> Ganbold wrote this message on Mon, May 08, 2006 at 17:35 +0900:
>   
>> John-Mark Gurney wrote:
>>     
>>> Ganbold wrote this message on Mon, May 08, 2006 at 17:23 +0900:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> I'm having trouble to make my Netgear Gigabit PCI GA311 network card 
>>>> work in 1000baseTX in FreeBSD-6.1RC. It runs fine on 100baseTX mode with 
>>>> Cat5 cable, however it doesn't with Cat5e/Cat6 cabling in 
>>>>         
>>> Does it work at 1000baseTX w/ Cat5 cabling?
>>>  
>>>       
>> I thought Cat5 only supports 100baseTX and I didn't test 1000baseTX w/ Cat5.
>>     
>
> Nope, 1000Base-T (no X) is speced for Cat5 cabling..  As per the 802.3
> spec 40.1:
> 1000BASE-T signaling requires four pairs of Category 5 balanced cabling,
> as specified in ISO/IEC 11801:1995 and ANSI/EIA/TIA-568-A (1995) and
> tested for the additional performance parameters specified in 40.7 using
> testing procedures defined in proposed ANSI/TIA/EIA TSB95.
>   
Ok.
>   
>> It is not working at 1000baseTX with Cat5e/Cat6 cabling.
>>     
>
> It's wierd that it works at 100Base-TX w/ Cat5, but not w/ Cat5e...
> Is there differences in the cable length or something?
Not much difference.
>   Have you tried
> w/ just normal Cat5?
>   
Ok, I will test it again in couple of days and let you know.

Ganbold



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On 5/8/06, Michel Talon <talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote:
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> By the way, if you have a kernel *without* IPV6 support, the firewall
> module
> will *not* load. You will have to recompile the firewall module without
> IPV6 support first. This is the most common cause of the problem you are
> seeing.
>
>
> --
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Thank you,Michel..,but it will not load on boot or?

If this is true maybe this is the problem - i have disabled IPV6 in the
kernel...

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> OK, I found out that my array has been already set up as RAID 5, which
> is what I'm looking for. Do you think it is time now to configure the
> volumes or is there something else needs to be done before that?

If the array has been set up as RAID 5 then just go ahead and install
FreeBSD on it. I run a lot of machines like this, including a couple of
DL380's, and my home machine which has a COmpaq 5304 card plugged into
an MSI amd64 motherboard quite happily.

I usually try and istall a small Windows2000 partition on the machine as well
though, so that I can run the Compaq ACU code to manage the array. It can be
done from the BIOS, but there are a lot more features in the actual
application.

-pcf.

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On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 10:18 +0100, Pete French wrote:
> > OK, I found out that my array has been already set up as RAID 5, which
> > is what I'm looking for. Do you think it is time now to configure the
> > volumes or is there something else needs to be done before that?
>=20
> If the array has been set up as RAID 5 then just go ahead and install
> FreeBSD on it. I run a lot of machines like this, including a couple of
> DL380's, and my home machine which has a COmpaq 5304 card plugged into
> an MSI amd64 motherboard quite happily.
>=20
OK great :) Thanks a lot for all those helped me.

> I usually try and istall a small Windows2000 partition on the machine as =
well
> though, so that I can run the Compaq ACU code to manage the array. It can=
 be
> done from the BIOS, but there are a lot more features in the actual
> application.
>=20
Might consider it for another server ;), thanks...

> -pcf.

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On Mon, 8 May 2006, Iantcho Vassilev wrote:

IV> > By the way, if you have a kernel *without* IPV6 support, the firewall
IV> > module
IV> > will *not* load. You will have to recompile the firewall module without
IV> > IPV6 support first. This is the most common cause of the problem you are
IV> > seeing.
IV> 
IV> Thank you,Michel..,but it will not load on boot or?

Neither, as it tries to refer to inet6 symbols; you have to build ipfw module 
with NO_INET6=yes too

IV> If this is true maybe this is the problem - i have disabled IPV6 in the
IV> kernel...

Check `dmesg -a' output

BTW, ipfw says 

ipfw2 (+ipv6)

even when it is build without inet6, which is a bit misleading.

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On Mon, 8 May 2006, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:

DM> BTW, ipfw says 
DM> 
DM> ipfw2 (+ipv6)
DM> 
DM> even when it is build without inet6, which is a bit misleading.

The following simple patch fixes this.

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On Mon, 8 May 2006, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:

DM> On Mon, 8 May 2006, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
DM> 
DM> DM> BTW, ipfw says 
DM> DM> 
DM> DM> ipfw2 (+ipv6)
DM> DM> 
DM> DM> even when it is build without inet6, which is a bit misleading.
DM> 
DM> The following simple patch fixes this.

Oh no, INET6 should be used instead of NO_INET6. Reattached.

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On Sunday 07 May 2006 22:09, Sam Leffler wrote:
> I don't know why you are posting patches like this; they include changes
> that are not MFC'd for specific reasons.  I've already told you
> privately that the new hal has nothing to do with the issue of
> supporting the 1/2 and 1/4-rate channels in the public safety band (as
> enabled with regdomain 18).
>
> If people want to try the new hal on a branch other than HEAD they
> should follow the directions I gave in my original mail (modulo my
> obtuseness).  I did not tell people to take the driver off head or
> anything similar.  You need ONE change; the change in rev 1.143 of
> if_ath.c that explicitly casts the bus tag and bus handle parameters in
> the call to ath_hal_attach.  The main reason for the new hal is to fix
> sparc64 support (and possibly alpha).
>


you are really a piece of work my friend

first you give vague info and incorrect instructions and then you bark arou=
nd=20
when I try to help others which might have had the same dificulties to foll=
ow=20
your brilliant mind

since you like to be specific, here it is:

> is known to work on sparc (tested) and may well work on alpha

does not mean at all that it is the "main reason" like you claim above

and what you sell here:

> Note that to use this hal with RELENG_6 or other branches  other than HEA=
D=20
you must have rev 1.143 of if_ath.c

is incorrect or at least very very bad explained

and this way (my patch) using part of if_ath.c v.1.143, the 4.9Ghz channel=
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and even if it has nothing to do with the 9.17 HAL it resolves for now the=
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and to answer your assumptions, I never said this is a MFC patch or whateve=
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I hope you do not mean it like it sounds but FYI put perhaps you could=20
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I have an NSF server and several clients which write large text files to th=
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Almost all the time I get the following messages on the server:

nfsd send error 32
nfsd send error 32
nfsd send error 32
nfsd send error 32
nfsd send error 32
=2E..

And corresponding messages on a client:

impossible packet length (8996061) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (3123011) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (893006905) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (842018868) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (874220) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (14182767) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (16777216) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (758134573) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (1503661568) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
impossible packet length (1300840) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
=2E..

And from time to time the files which are written to the server get truncat=
ed=20
(regardless of the file size)...

Does anybody have an idea how to make it work reliably and not to truncate =
the=20
files?

=2D-=20
Dr. Yuri Khotyaintsev
Institutet f=F6r rymdfysik (IRF), Uppsala

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Hello,

	I have some 4.x servers that I would like to upgrade to 5.x, and =
=20
perhaps 6.x.  However, I do not have any local access to these =20
machines.  I can ssh into them only.  I would like to know whether it =20=

is possible for me to upgrade the machines with only ssh access, and =20
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	TIA,

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Hi Scott,

Monday, May 8, 2006, 2:29:23 PM, you contributed this to our collective wisdom:

> Hello,

>         I have some 4.x servers that I would like to upgrade to 5.x, and
> perhaps 6.x.  However, I do not have any local access to these  
> machines.  I can ssh into them only.  I would like to know whether it
> is possible for me to upgrade the machines with only ssh access, and  
> what one should do to go about upgrading them.

Yeah, it's possible (and risky), however you will not get, for example,
an advantages of UFS2 and so forth, because you can't upgrade from UFS
to UFS2 without rebuilding FS.

The problem is that it's not possible to upgrade directly to 6.0/1.
You will have to go through process of upgrading to 5.3 first. But
I would recommend you to make a backups of your configuration and ask
someone who has a physical access to your servers to reinstall them
for you.

-- 
Sincerely,
  Daniel Gerzo


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On May 6, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Michael Gerhards wrote:

> What might be the reason for my problems? Is there a problem in the
> support for my skc0 device? What could I do to solve my problems?

I'll vote bad hardware.  That's the only situation under which I got  
this error.  It could be motherboard timing related, or it could be  
the ethernet card, or it could be the switch itself (though I'd blame  
the motherboard or NIC first).


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If I had intended stable users to try this code I would have:

1. posted to stable@
2. provided specific changes for those users (e.g. a patch)

You will note my initial post about a new hal was done to both mailing 
lists.  I did not post this hal to stable because I did not want to deal 
with people complaining that things did not work because they had 
problems back-patching the necessary changes.  I included info in my 
original post for those folks running current that were going to do it 
anyway so they could save some time.

I replied to your post because all it did was set people up for failures 
that would result in mail to me that I don't have time to handle.  Then 
those people would either get frustrated by not getting an answer or 
think there was some problem that wasn't being fixed.

I treat the stable src tree VERY carefully.  I do not inflict pain on 
users running stable.  I do not arbitrarily commit changes that require 
people to manually alter their system or otherwise deal with binary 
incompatibilities.  I treat stable as a production code base and only 
apply changes that are considered well-tested and appropriate to run in 
a production environment.

	Sam

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David Nugent <davidn@datalinktech.com.au> wrote:
> 
>>But by browsing through this list I found the thread "sk0: watchdog timeout"
>>and the problem described there is quite similiar to what I get here. So
>>perhaps this bug in the sk driver is also the cause for my trouble here?!
> 
> Possibly (and even likely). It sounds like a very severe case of the 
> same thing.

I should add that the system was under quite heavy load doing an
"portupgrade". Perhaps that triggered the problem a bit, too.

>>Can I somehow use this patch for sk0 _without_ changing everything to 
>>-current? Acutually, I wanted to stay to 6.1-RELEASE... 
>>  
>>
> Apparently the timeout problem is fixed in -CURRENT, and will be merged 
> after 6.1-RELEASE. Enjoy.

Sounds good to me. I guess this won't be more than a few days, perhaps
1-2 weeks?!

> Tracking -STABLE is a Good Thing, IMHO, quite aside from the security 
> updates, bugs which don't even affect you right now (but may do 
> sometime) get fixed, and the -STABLE tag tends to be quite appropriate.  

I am quite new to FreeBSD and so I am not that familiar with all these
things. But I read at some places that -STABLE is not always really
stable and should not be used on productive systems. So I thought
-RELEASE might be the correct choice for me.

But I see your arguments - perhaps I will change my mind and really
track -STABLE.

> I only ever used -RELEASE media for the initial install. A system I run 
> at home was originally installed from FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT, also now 
> running a mid-Feb 6.1-PRERELEASE, upgraded from sources many many times 
> over (build world+kernel takes just under 3 days). :-)

;-)

On my Pentium2-300 I certainly will not upgrade that often... ;-) But on
my other machinese (Athlon XP 2600+, Athlon 64 X2 3800+) building world
and kernel is not that time-consumpting any more... :-)

Michael



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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:54:58PM +0200, Yuri Khotyaintsev wrote:
> I have an NSF server and several clients which write large text files to =
the=20
> server. All machines are running max one week old STABLE and are connecte=
d to=20
> the same gigabit switch, and have identical nics (em). Amd mount options =
are:
> /defaults =20
> type:=3Dnfs;cache:=3Dall;opts:=3Drw,intr,nosuid,grpid,nfsv3,tcp,resvport,=
soft
>=20
> Almost all the time I get the following messages on the server:
>=20
> nfsd send error 32
> nfsd send error 32
> nfsd send error 32
> nfsd send error 32
> nfsd send error 32
> ...
>=20
> And corresponding messages on a client:
>=20
> impossible packet length (8996061) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (3123011) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (893006905) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (842018868) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (874220) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (14182767) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (16777216) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (758134573) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (1503661568) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> impossible packet length (1300840) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> ...
>=20
> And from time to time the files which are written to the server get trunc=
ated=20
> (regardless of the file size)...
>=20
> Does anybody have an idea how to make it work reliably and not to truncat=
e the=20
> files?

mohan committed a fix for one such problem a few days ago.  It will
not be in 6.1-RELEASE, but you should be able to apply the patch
yourself.  It would be nice to know how it works for you.

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_socket.c.diff=
?r1=3Dtext&tr1=3D1.136&r2=3Dtext&tr2=3D1.139

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Mark Willson wrote:
>> I've got an IBM T42 laptop that's currently running 5.4, and it's working 
>> nicely at the moment.  ACPI works well enough that suspend to RAM works 
>> ('zzz'), the audio works, USB devices are recognised, and the battery life's 
>> reasonable (with est enabled).
>>
>> Is anyone aware of any regressions in laptop functionality going from 5.4 to 
>> 6.x?
> 
> I've been running 6-STABLE on a T42 for a while and not noticed any
> problems in the subjects mentioned.  The addition of iwi has made life
> a little simpler.  I think it is ok to take the leap...

Thanks.

I noticed that the acpi_ibm manual page talks about the suspend-to-disk 
functionality.

Does that work?

N

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On 5/8/06, Nik Clayton <nik@ngo.org.uk> wrote:
> Mark Willson wrote:
> >> I've got an IBM T42 laptop that's currently running 5.4, and it's work=
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> >> nicely at the moment.  ACPI works well enough that suspend to RAM work=
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> >> ('zzz'), the audio works, USB devices are recognised, and the battery =
life's
> >> reasonable (with est enabled).
> >>
> >> Is anyone aware of any regressions in laptop functionality going from =
5.4 to
> >> 6.x?
> >
> > I've been running 6-STABLE on a T42 for a while and not noticed any
> > problems in the subjects mentioned.  The addition of iwi has made life
> > a little simpler.  I think it is ok to take the leap...
>
> Thanks.
>
> I noticed that the acpi_ibm manual page talks about the suspend-to-disk
> functionality.
>
> Does that work?

>From my experience on X31, the Fn+F12 (suspend to disk)
only works with apm and no acpi. Of course, you have
to create a partition first (via phdisk(?) aviliable at ibm's site).

Regards,
Rong-En Fan

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Hello,

I am running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, built on May 4, with Xorg 6.9 and Wine
0.9.12 from the
ports tree.  The DRI extensions are installed and working properly for
my ATI X800 AIW, as reported by glxinfo:

display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
** snip **
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20040924 AGP 8x TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 6.4.1

glxgears gets about 400 FPS or so when maximized, and tuxracer runs
fine.  However, when I use wine to run graphics applications, it seems
to be defaulting to the Mesa Indirect driver, based on realtech VR's
glview application:

<GLView version=3D3D"2.24"><System>Windows XP Professional </System>
<CPU>32-bit</CPU>
<Vendor>Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org</Vendor>
<Version>1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)</Version>
<Renderer>Mesa GLX Indirect</Renderer>

/usr/local/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so picks up the right libGL:

%ldd /usr/local/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so
/usr/local/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so:
        libwine.so.1 =3D3D> /usr/local/lib/libwine.so.1 (0x281f1000)
        libSM.so.6 =3D3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x2820b000)
        libICE.so.6 =3D3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28213000)
        libXxf86dga.so.1 =3D3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86dga.so.1 (0x28229000=
)
        libXxf86vm.so.1 =3D3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x2822e000)
        libXext.so.6 =3D3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x28233000)
        libX11.so.6 =3D3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28240000)
        libGL.so.1 =3D3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x28301000)
        libGLU.so.1 =3D3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x2835d000)
        libm.so.4 =3D3D> /lib/libm.so.4 (0x283ce000)
        libc.so.6 =3D3D> /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28077000)
        libstdc++.so.5 =3D3D> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x283e4000)
%pkg_info -W /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 was installed by package xorg-libraries-6.9.0

I checked the configure output for the wine port and it picked up all
the OpenGL headers from Mesa, but can't figure out why native
applications are getting the DRI renderer while wine is stuck to the
indirect renderer.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Isaac

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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 02:29:23PM +0200, Scott Harrison wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 	I have some 4.x servers that I would like to upgrade to 5.x, and  
> perhaps 6.x.  However, I do not have any local access to these  
> machines.  I can ssh into them only.  I would like to know whether it  
> is possible for me to upgrade the machines with only ssh access, and  
> what one should do to go about upgrading them.

Short answer: it depends.

One of the ings on which this depends is how those remote systems are
set up.  One thing I like to do, which IMO makes this type of exercise
somewhat more feasible, is to have more than one bootable slice on the
machine.  Typically, I would allocate a relatively small slice 1 (&
slice 2), each of which would have a / and /usr file system on it.  I'd
put everything else -- stuff that I wanted to remain the same regardless
of which slice is the boot slice -- on (say) slice 3.

I then have little shell scripts to use "dump | restore" to "clone" the
file systems from one slice to the other.

One of the nice things this does is allow the machine to be booted form
one slice while moderately major "surgery" is performed on the file
systems on the inactive slice.

There are a few inconveniences -- it does take up disk space; allocating
the root file system for slice 2 is moderately annoying using
sysinstall, because it gets allocated as partition d, and I like to make
it partition "a" -- so use "bsdlabel -e" (or "disklabel -e" on older
systems) and change the partition designator, if that's what you prefer.

I've seen similar setups where the inactive slice gradually become more
and more stale.  I avoid this by using the following approach (which
could undoubtedly be made cleverer, but I stopped when I found an
approach that worked):

* "Clone" the file systems from the active slice to the inactive one.

* Reboot from the "other" slice (the target of the above operation).

* Upgrade in place.

* Reboot (without changing active slice).

For fallback, reboot from the original slice.

This is actaully a variant of an approach that I recall using back on
IBM mainframes running MVS (and MVS/ESA and MVS/XA) (ca. 1982 - 1993).

Note that "boot0cfg" can change the default boot slice if you're using
the FreeBSD boot loader.

In my experience, this works better for smaller deltas between upgrades
-- so it may not be directly applicable to a 4.x -> 5.x? -> 6.x
transition.  There may still be something useful for your situation
there, though.

Peace,
david
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I can't install freebsd 6.0 STABLE amd64 on my notebook:

 HP Pavilion 2420la AMD Turion ML 32 , 1024 RAM, 80 GB HD, ATI 
Radeon XPRESS 200M.

I try all modes , default, whitout acpi, safe mode. In all the cases after the 
next message the installation doesn't work:


timecounters tick every 1000 msec
Linux ELF exec handler install
lo0.bpf attached

I installed linux with parameter noapic nolapic, but y want to install and 
learn freebsd

Thank you.

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Alejandro Ruiz Robles wrote:
> I can't install freebsd 6.0 STABLE amd64 on my notebook:
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Have you tried 6.1-RC2?


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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in the development
of the 6.X branch, delivering several performance improvements, many
bugfixes, and a few new features.  These include:

~ Addition of a keyboard multiplexer.  This allows USB and PS/2 keyboards
  to coexist without any special options at boot.
~ Many fixes for filesystem stability.  High load stress tests are now run
  successfully on a regular basis as part of the normal FreeBSD QA process.
~ Automatic configuration for man Bluetooth devices, as well as automatic
  support for running WiFi access points.
~ Addition of drivers for new ethernet and SAS and SATA RAID controllers.
~ BIND updated to 9.3.2
~ sendmail updated to 8.13.6

NOTE: It was discovered at the last minute that the errata notes that were
packaged with the release are out of date.  For a complete list of known
problems, please see the online errata list, available at:

    http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.1R/errata.html

For more information about FreeBSD release engineering activities,
please see:

    http://www.FreeBSD.org/releng

 Availability
 -------------

FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE supports the i386, pc98, alpha, sparc64, amd64,
powerpc, and ia64 architectures and can be installed directly over the
net using bootable media or copied to a local NFS/FTP server.
Distributions for all architectures are available now.

Please continue to support the FreeBSD Project by purchasing media
from one of our supporting vendors.  The following companies will be
offering FreeBSD 6.1 based products:

~   FreeBSD Mall, Inc.        http://www.freebsdmall.com/
~   Daemonnews, Inc.          http://www.bsdmall.com/freebsd1.html

If you can't afford FreeBSD on media, are impatient, or just want to
use it for evangelism purposes, then by all means download the ISO
images.  We can't promise that all the mirror sites will carry the
larger ISO images, but they will at least be available from the
following sites.  MD5 and SHA256 checksums for the release images are
included at the bottom of this message.

 Bittorrent
 ----------

The FreeBSD project encourages the use of BitTorrent for distributing
the release ISO images.  A collection of torrent files to download the
images is available at

    http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/

 FTP
 ---

At the time of this announcement the following FTP sites have FreeBSD
6.1-RELEASE available.

    ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp2.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp3.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp5.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp.at.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp2.ch.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp.cz.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp.ee.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp.fi.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp.fr.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp2.ie.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp.is.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp1.ru.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp.se.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp.si.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp2.tw.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp2.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp2.us.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
    ftp://ftp5.us.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/

FreeBSD is also available via anonymous FTP from mirror sites in the
following countries: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada,
China, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany,
Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Japan, Korea, Lithuania,
Amylonia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Romania,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Spain,
Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom.

Before trying the central FTP site, please check your regional
mirror(s) first by going to:

ftp://ftp.<yourdomain>.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD

Any additional mirror sites will be labeled ftp2, ftp3 and so on.

More information about FreeBSD mirror sites can be found at:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html

For instructions on installing FreeBSD, please see Chapter 2 of The
FreeBSD Handbook.  It provides a complete installation walk-through
for users new to FreeBSD, and can be found online at:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

 Acknowledgments
 ----------------

Many companies donated equipment, network access, or man-hours to
finance the release engineering activities for FreeBSD 6.1 including
The FreeBSD Foundation, FreeBSD Systems, Hewlett-Packard, Yahoo!,
Sentex Communications, and Copan Systems.

The release engineering team for 6.1-RELEASE includes:

Scott Long <scottl@FreeBSD.org>         Release Engineering,
Ken Smith <kensmith@FreeBSD.org>        I386, AMD64, Sparc64 Release Building,
                                        Mirror Site Coordination
Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>     Release Engineering, Security
Doug White <dwhite@FreeBSD.org>         Release Engineering
Maxime Henrion <mux@FreeBSD.org>        Release Engineering
Hiroki Sato <hrs@FreeBSD.org>           Release Engineering, Documentation
Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>     Release Engineering
Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@FreeBSD.org>   IA64 Release Building
Takahashi Yoshihiro <nyan@FreeBSD.org>  PC98 Release Building
Wilko Bulte <wilko@FreeBSD.org>         Alpha Release Building
Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>        Package Building
Joe Marcus Clark <marcus@FreeBSD.org>   Package Building
Kiril Ponomarew <krion@FreeBSD.org>     Package Building
Colin Percival <cperciva@FreeBSD.org>   Security Officer

 CD Image Checksums
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MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso) = b73e8dc202f64aa56606f6e3399bc83f
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso) = 2d6fc98a4cd11468f62ea0c7332affff
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso) = 6b48c41b5dc774ae727f3f0a8a91c96f

MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso) = 11bb7fb4d2a781238008945f6bf65a4e
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso) = cf1ce4ba48d664ce3977108a18ced6b8
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso) = bc0f4a32a64e00c7cbfb839e6d5772f3

MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-ia64-bootonly.iso) = 94e83e6ba0281b58bd5af4a1004f8079
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso) = b3f957ef581f4267fdd2b0400ff492dd
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc2.iso) = e46c08dd1e46c825048ce5105497f900
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-ia64-livefs.iso) = 75f70e7c1f5bc295bc00841b19c00b63

MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-pc98-disc1.iso) = 923e86a2307d1dce7dfb3379a67885f4

MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-sparc64-bootonly.iso) = f8e11c6a952f4be8435dc8d56c5bfc8e
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso) = c206054f9cecf629211f6fc2b068e9ff
MD5 (6.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc2.iso) = b7b4db45c998f682ba57fef62f2b8fdc

SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso) = da885951bfa1b322bad9780766338e9b22f8b1e71c59316c0f182e27522409a9
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso) = 99f596f65f7860f2f7d1be7b926faab7c3a3561d8659527127ca39760afb0e00
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso) = 4359419420b459a256b2d45ee8d5ba4e13373f9a986ceeadfe6778448d72b01d

SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso) = cb7ad11198358e2123dc139d7fbab26727524e973c6c02906cc6aca944b064c9
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso) = cbc6f9389c85f3130baff5270316ece18d5e324e82f8aa167c61ab49174dd4d1
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso) = 7c3a056d18be9e2dccf1f4e7dba22a4760d6288165eb87fe9894abc8c7741ffb

SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-ia64-bootonly.iso) =  2d1f921f9195f5f1525b437f3bee67e0c02bbfa195a8f9950fba4d471434e837
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso) =  584870eed63617f27a0fc5dc908195504e69f35125d7cf6ef9e6752d14f85c59
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc2.iso) =  6076b7c988625cc044c75e3e580542b23ec0acdac3472d61944736731bc263fe
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-ia64-livefs.iso) =  6fbdd5f0dc63743e05ff11a688aa6a5de2dcb34a469874c85dd3797de99e97ce

SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-pc98-disc1.iso) = 859d6978f06d9354713fe76b8ea05268650da943fb9a03e05de3c69426ebbee7

SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-sparc64-bootonly.iso) = a700069cdcc2d0df71e7023afdbba2b4e2e2b66c23348ac6386c46f5b2ce798e
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso) = a8e8cf6d82cb8bebe3fa85fe8b2f0c5b6eff866e9314611d36194c01c489474d
SHA256 (6.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc2.iso) = 062f5e1d0ec254dbd924ed43f44de6f068646edf459ed0e36b98e2ca3f257774



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Scott Long wrote:

>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
>FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in the development
>of the 6.X branch, delivering several performance improvements, many
>bugfixes, and a few new features.  These include:
>
>~ Addition of a keyboard multiplexer.  This allows USB and PS/2 keyboards
>  to coexist without any special options at boot.
>~ Many fixes for filesystem stability.  High load stress tests are now run
>  successfully on a regular basis as part of the normal FreeBSD QA process.
>~ Automatic configuration for man Bluetooth devices, as well as automatic
>
>  
>

   s/man/many

>  support for running WiFi access points.
>~ Addition of drivers for new ethernet and SAS and SATA RAID controllers.
>~ BIND updated to 9.3.2
>~ sendmail updated to 8.13.6
>
>NOTE: It was discovered at the last minute that the errata notes that were
>packaged with the release are out of date.  For a complete list of known
>problems, please see the online errata list, available at:
>
>    http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.1R/errata.html
>  
>

the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"


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Julian Elischer wrote:
> Scott Long wrote:
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
>> FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in the development
>> of the 6.X branch, delivering several performance improvements, many
>> bugfixes, and a few new features.  These include:
>>
>> ~ Addition of a keyboard multiplexer.  This allows USB and PS/2 
>> keyboards
>>  to coexist without any special options at boot.
>> ~ Many fixes for filesystem stability.  High load stress tests are 
>> now run
>>  successfully on a regular basis as part of the normal FreeBSD QA 
>> process.
>> ~ Automatic configuration for man Bluetooth devices, as well as 
>> automatic
>>
>>  
>>
>
>   s/man/many
>
>>  support for running WiFi access points.
>> ~ Addition of drivers for new ethernet and SAS and SATA RAID 
>> controllers.
>> ~ BIND updated to 9.3.2
>> ~ sendmail updated to 8.13.6
>>
>> NOTE: It was discovered at the last minute that the errata notes that 
>> were
>> packaged with the release are out of date.  For a complete list of known
>> problems, please see the online errata list, available at:
>>
>>    http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.1R/errata.html
>>  
>>
>
> the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"

Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems? Don't 
tell me these will be shoved under the rug.


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On Tue, 09 May 2006 01:00:14 -0400
Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com> wrote:

> Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems?
> Don't tell me these will be shoved under the rug.

Oh, please.
Allow the team a few minutes (at least!) to get the right
errata in place before complaining.
-- 
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Torfinn Ingolfsen,
Norway


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Michael Gerhards wrote:

>>Apparently the timeout problem is fixed in -CURRENT, and will be merged 
>>after 6.1-RELEASE. Enjoy.
>>    
>>
>
>Sounds good to me. I guess this won't be more than a few days, perhaps
>1-2 weeks?!
>  
>
That is up to the committer, but I would imagine so.

>>Tracking -STABLE is a Good Thing, IMHO, quite aside from the security 
>>updates, bugs which don't even affect you right now (but may do 
>>sometime) get fixed, and the -STABLE tag tends to be quite appropriate.  
>>    
>>
>
>I am quite new to FreeBSD and so I am not that familiar with all these
>things. But I read at some places that -STABLE is not always really
>stable and should not be used on productive systems. So I thought
>-RELEASE might be the correct choice for me.
>  
>

Actually, my own experience is that -STABLE is better suited to 
production systems, but YMMV. I don't think we are talking a big 
difference in relative stability. Note that I work in an environment 
where application upgrades are also relatively frequent so upgrading the 
OS as well requires very little extra effort (and is the only reason at 
all that production boxes are occasionally rebooted).

-RELEASE is a snapshot of -STABLE which may or may not have problems 
(the whole idea of the release engineering process is reducing such 
problems if possible without introducing more to hopefully make a 
release less problematic than any other aribtrary snapshot) and in 
theory should provide the most stable OS, but the point to note is that 
-STABLE usually really means stable. There are normally no surprising 
new features being added and no intrusive changes to the way things work 
- just security, bug fixes and non-intrusive/optional features and 
enhancements as the version number increments, and you're tracking (in 
theory) better maintained code. Exceptions do happen when, for example, 
a bug is introduced or exposed, but not intentionally. The process of 
upgrading -stable has rarely caused me any grief at all if the 
instructions in src/UPDATING are followed.

If you *really* need to be more conservative you can be more specific 
and track RELENG_6_1 so that you track only 6.1-RELEASE and subsequent 
security fixes but I've rarely done so for very long and don't see any 
advantage in freezing the OS at a specific version and do see plenty of 
disadvantages in not automatically getting fixes like the one being 
discussed here.

Again YMMV, it depends a lot on how tolerant you can be of the once in a 
blue moon glitch that may or may not happen and whether new 
functionality or fixes brought into the stable branch is useful to you.


Regards,
David

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Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> On Tue, 09 May 2006 01:00:14 -0400
> Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems?
>> Don't tell me these will be shoved under the rug.
>>     
>
> Oh, please.
> Allow the team a few minutes (at least!) to get the right
> errata in place before complaining.

Am I anally retentive or what?


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Hi!

On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:27:13PM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 12:51:50PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote:
> > I'm running:
> > 
> > 
> > I just tried it again, using a different brand of media, and also got:
> > 
> > localhost(6.1-P)[22] sudo burncd -s max -f /dev/acd0 data 6.1-BETA4-i386-disc1.iso fixate
> > Password:
> > next writeable LBA 0
> > writing from file 6.1-BETA4-i386-disc1.iso size 454082 KB
> > written this track 454082 KB (100%) total 454082 KB
> > fixating CD, please wait..
> > burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error
> > localhost(6.1-P)[23] 
> > 
> > There was a fair amount of time -- around 15 - 20 seconds -- between the
> > "fixating CD, please wait.." message and the whine, during which there
> > was activity involving the CD drive.
> > 
> > Am I doing something stupid here?
> 
> In my case, the CD burns without problem however, I get that error.  
> Googling found me a few other people with a similar issue.  Have you
> tried the CD afterwords to see if it works anyway?  
> 
> Out of curiosity, is it a Plextor drive, I think everyone who had a
> problem was running into it with Plextors.  
> 
> Some people, like myself, only get the annoying error message and
> everything is fine, others find that it doesn't work at all.

It does not work on many other drives (including mine, I have
NEC DVD RW ND-3520A/1.04). I have to fixate manually after the failure.
cdrecord (over SCSI emulation) works fine.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/73559
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/fjoe

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Hi!

On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:27:13PM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 12:51:50PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote:
> > I'm running:
> > 
> > 
> > I just tried it again, using a different brand of media, and also got:
> > 
> > localhost(6.1-P)[22] sudo burncd -s max -f /dev/acd0 data 6.1-BETA4-i386-disc1.iso fixate
> > Password:
> > next writeable LBA 0
> > writing from file 6.1-BETA4-i386-disc1.iso size 454082 KB
> > written this track 454082 KB (100%) total 454082 KB
> > fixating CD, please wait..
> > burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error
> > localhost(6.1-P)[23] 
> > 
> > There was a fair amount of time -- around 15 - 20 seconds -- between the
> > "fixating CD, please wait.." message and the whine, during which there
> > was activity involving the CD drive.
> > 
> > Am I doing something stupid here?
> 
> In my case, the CD burns without problem however, I get that error.  
> Googling found me a few other people with a similar issue.  Have you
> tried the CD afterwords to see if it works anyway?  
> 
> Out of curiosity, is it a Plextor drive, I think everyone who had a
> problem was running into it with Plextors.  
> 
> Some people, like myself, only get the annoying error message and
> everything is fine, others find that it doesn't work at all.

It does not work on many other drives (including mine, I have
NEC DVD RW ND-3520A/1.04). I have to fixate manually after the failure.
cdrecord (over SCSI emulation) works fine.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/73559
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/95344
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/95979
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/fjoe

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David Wolfskill wrote:

> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 02:29:23PM +0200, Scott Harrison wrote:
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>> perhaps 6.x.  However, I do not have any local access to these  
>> machines.  I can ssh into them only.  I would like to know whether it  
>> is possible for me to upgrade the machines with only ssh access, and  
>> what one should do to go about upgrading them.
...
> I then have little shell scripts to use "dump | restore" to "clone" the
> file systems from one slice to the other.
...
> * Reboot from the "other" slice (the target of the above operation).
> * Upgrade in place.
> * Reboot (without changing active slice).

I do almost the same; I do not reboot to the other slice to upgrade it,
instead I use the current slice to upgrade, and if that fails reboot to
the other slice (the backup slice). It's the same idea, with one less
reboot.

This dual-boot-slice (or disk :) setup also allows for the UFS->UFS2
transition.

regards,
   Hans Lambermont

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Hi!

On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 11:56:13PM +0100, Robert Watson wrote:

> >>This is why it's disabled by default, and the jail documentation 
> >>specifically advises of this possibility.  Excerpt below.
> >
> >Ah, I see, glad to see it's accurately documented.
> 
> As it has been for the last five years, I believe since introduction of the 
> setting to allow System V IPC to be used with documented limitations.
> 
> >Given the rather significant use of shared memory by Postgres it seems to 
> >me that jail'ing it under FBSD is unlikely to get you the kind of 
> >isolation between instances that you want (the assumption being that you 
> >want to avoid the possibility of a user under one jail impacting a user in 
> >another jail). As such, I'd suggest finding something else if you truely 
> >need that isolation for Postgres or dropping the jails entirely.
> >
> >Running the Postgres instances under different uids (as you'd probably 
> >expect to do anyway if not using the jails) is probably the right 
> >approach. Doing that and using jails would probably work, just don't 
> >delude yourself into thinking that you're safe from a malicious user in 
> >one jail.
> 
> Yes, there seems to be an awful lot of noise being made about the fact that 
> the system does, in fact, work exactly as documented, and that the 
> configuration being complained about is one that is specifically documented 
> as being unsupported and undesirable.
> 
> As commented elsewhere in this thread, currently, there is no 
> virtualization support for System V IPC in the FreeBSD Jail implementation. 
> That may change if/when someone implements it.  Until it's implemented, it 
> isn't going to be there, and the system won't behave as though it's there 
> no matter how much jumping up and down is done.

sysvipc has been implemented once, but it has been decided that it adds
unnecessary bloat. That's sad.

/fjoe

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On May 9, 2006, at 12:56 , Hans Lambermont wrote:

> David Wolfskill wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 02:29:23PM +0200, Scott Harrison wrote:
>>> 	I have some 4.x servers that I would like to upgrade to 5.x, and
>>> perhaps 6.x.  However, I do not have any local access to these
>>> machines.  I can ssh into them only.  I would like to know =20
>>> whether it
>>> is possible for me to upgrade the machines with only ssh access, and
>>> what one should do to go about upgrading them.
> ...
>> I then have little shell scripts to use "dump | restore" to =20
>> "clone" the
>> file systems from one slice to the other.
> ...
>> * Reboot from the "other" slice (the target of the above operation).
>> * Upgrade in place.
>> * Reboot (without changing active slice).
>
> I do almost the same; I do not reboot to the other slice to upgrade =20=

> it,
> instead I use the current slice to upgrade, and if that fails =20
> reboot to
> the other slice (the backup slice). It's the same idea, with one less
> reboot.
>
> This dual-boot-slice (or disk :) setup also allows for the UFS->UFS2
> transition.
>

	This sounds nice except that I do not have my disk already =20
partitioned like this.  Can I take a 4.7 machine (for example) and =20
live repartition it to be like this?

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No, but i will install 6.1 STABLE

thank you

El Lunes, 8 de Mayo de 2006 20:31, Mike Jakubik escribi=F3:
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> Have you tried 6.1-RC2?
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Hi...

I saw this in the 6.1 release notes and eagerly upgraded:
  "The amr(4) driver now supports ioctl(2) requests necessary for Linux
  LSI MegaRaid tools on FreeBSD's Linux emulation environment."

However, when I pulled over a megamgr.bin binary from a linux machine, and
try to execute it on my freebsd machine, I get:
  [root@ozelmo ~/src/megaraid]# ./megamgr.bin
  ELF binary type "0" not known.
  bash: ./megamgr.bin: cannot execute binary file

Has anyone got this working? What did they need? Any help would be
appreciated, as I'm seriously sick of megarc :)

Thanks in advance!

Relevant bits of dmesg:
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Tue May  9 09:01:31 EDT 2006
    root@ozelmo.wuhjuhbuh.afraid.org:/usr/obj/usr/src-6.1/sys/OZELMO
amr0: <LSILogic MegaRAID 1.53> mem 0xef000000-0xef00ffff irq 16 at device
13.0 on pci0
amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller
amr0: <LSILogic MegaRAID SATA 150-6D> Firmware 713N, BIOS G119, 64MB RAM
...
amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller
amrd0: <LSILogic MegaRAID logical drive> on amr0
amrd0: 953656MB (1953087488 sectors) RAID 5 (optimal)

[root@ozelmo ~/src/megaraid]# kldstat
Id Refs Address    Size     Name
 1    5 0xc0400000 504e7c   kernel
 2    1 0xc4bc2000 1a000    linux.ko


Brian Szymanski
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At 11:19 PM 08/05/2006, Scott Long wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
>FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in the development
>of the 6.X branch, delivering several performance improvements, many
>bugfixes, and a few new features.  These include:

Congratulations Scott and the RE team!  We have a number of 6.1ish 
boxes (UP and SMP) in production being brutalized with spam and 
virual analysis and they are working great!

         ---Mike 


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Brian Szymanski wrote:
> Hi...
> 
> I saw this in the 6.1 release notes and eagerly upgraded:
>   "The amr(4) driver now supports ioctl(2) requests necessary for Linux
>   LSI MegaRaid tools on FreeBSD's Linux emulation environment."
> 
> However, when I pulled over a megamgr.bin binary from a linux machine, and
> try to execute it on my freebsd machine, I get:
>   [root@ozelmo ~/src/megaraid]# ./megamgr.bin
>   ELF binary type "0" not known.
>   bash: ./megamgr.bin: cannot execute binary file
> 
> Has anyone got this working? What did they need? Any help would be
> appreciated, as I'm seriously sick of megarc :)
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 

Since it appears to require Linux emulation, have you tried branding the
binary is a Linux ELF with brandelf(1)?


-Proto

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On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> No, but i will install 6.1 STABLE
>
> thank you
>
> El Lunes, 8 de Mayo de 2006 20:31, Mike Jakubik escribi=F3:
> > Alejandro Ruiz Robles wrote:
> > > I can't install freebsd 6.0 STABLE amd64 on my notebook:
> >
> > Have you tried 6.1-RC2?
> >

As Mike has suggested give FreeBSD/AMD64 6.1-RC2 a try.

If you have a problem with the boot loader crashing after it loads
/boot/loader.conf from the install CD, just power off and on the
system, then when you see the boot loader, repeatedly hit the space
bar, until you see that it is loading /boot/kernel/kernel.  After
this, it will then be able to load the system installer, and allow you
to install the system.  When the system is installed you'll have no
problem booting the system from the harddrive.

This is what I had to do on my HP Pavilion dv8xxx (AMD Turion 64 ML-37) Sys=
tem.

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Oh, duh, it's been so long since I used linux binary emulation that I
forgot all about brandelf... Thanks Michael!

... But now that the binary is properly branded, I get a different error:
  Error opening terminal: xterm.
I get the same error for xterm-color, cons25, vt220, and everything else
I've tried... (and I know for a fact that TERM=xterm works on my linux
machines)... Any ideas?

Cheers,
Brian

> Brian Szymanski wrote:
>> Hi...
>>
>> I saw this in the 6.1 release notes and eagerly upgraded:
>>   "The amr(4) driver now supports ioctl(2) requests necessary for Linux
>>   LSI MegaRaid tools on FreeBSD's Linux emulation environment."
>>
>> However, when I pulled over a megamgr.bin binary from a linux machine,
>> and
>> try to execute it on my freebsd machine, I get:
>>   [root@ozelmo ~/src/megaraid]# ./megamgr.bin
>>   ELF binary type "0" not known.
>>   bash: ./megamgr.bin: cannot execute binary file
>>
>> Has anyone got this working? What did they need? Any help would be
>> appreciated, as I'm seriously sick of megarc :)
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>
> Since it appears to require Linux emulation, have you tried branding the
> binary is a Linux ELF with brandelf(1)?
>
>
> -Proto
>
>


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On 5/9/06, Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > No, but i will install 6.1 STABLE
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > El Lunes, 8 de Mayo de 2006 20:31, Mike Jakubik escribi=F3:
> > > Alejandro Ruiz Robles wrote:
> > > > I can't install freebsd 6.0 STABLE amd64 on my notebook:
> > >
> > > Have you tried 6.1-RC2?
> > >
>
> As Mike has suggested give FreeBSD/AMD64 6.1-RC2 a try.
>
Just noticed that 6.1-RELEASE is available, give that a try.

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Brian Szymanski wrote:
> Oh, duh, it's been so long since I used linux binary emulation that I
> forgot all about brandelf... Thanks Michael!
> 
> ... But now that the binary is properly branded, I get a different error:
>   Error opening terminal: xterm.
> I get the same error for xterm-color, cons25, vt220, and everything else
> I've tried... (and I know for a fact that TERM=xterm works on my linux
> machines)... Any ideas?

I suspect its looking for xterm in your /compat/linux emulation
environment. I don't know if there's a linux-xterm port available (I
didn't see one), but you *might* be able to get away with hardlinking or
copying /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm to /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
(assuming you have linux-XFree86-libs or linux-xorg-libs installed).

Perhaps someone better versed in X11 and Linux emulation can answer to this.


-Proto


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On Tue, 9 May 2006 10:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Brian Szymanski wrote:

> Oh, duh, it's been so long since I used linux binary emulation that I
> forgot all about brandelf... Thanks Michael!

> ... But now that the binary is properly branded, I get a different error:
>   Error opening terminal: xterm.
> I get the same error for xterm-color, cons25, vt220, and everything else
> I've tried... (and I know for a fact that TERM=xterm works on my linux
> machines)... Any ideas?

Just load http://www.lsilogic.com/cm/License.do?url=/files/support/rsa/utilities/megamgr/ut_linux_mgr_5.20.zip&prodName=MegaRAID%20SATA%20150-4&subType=Miscellaneous
Unzipped it, branded and run ./megamgr.bin as root on _console_. I've
got "Failed to open driver node /dev/megadev0" (really I don't have
one). BTW on xterm it shows the same message.

I use FreeBSD 6.1-RC, emulators/linux_base-fc3 and x11/linux-xorg-libs
ports.


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> On Tue, 9 May 2006 10:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Brian Szymanski wrote:
>
>> Oh, duh, it's been so long since I used linux binary emulation that I
>> forgot all about brandelf... Thanks Michael!
>
>> ... But now that the binary is properly branded, I get a different
>> error:
>>   Error opening terminal: xterm.
>> I get the same error for xterm-color, cons25, vt220, and everything else
>> I've tried... (and I know for a fact that TERM=xterm works on my linux
>> machines)... Any ideas?
>
> Just load
> http://www.lsilogic.com/cm/License.do?url=/files/support/rsa/utilities/megamgr/ut_linux_mgr_5.20.zip&prodName=MegaRAID%20SATA%20150-4&subType=Miscellaneous
> Unzipped it, branded and run ./megamgr.bin as root on _console_. I've
> got "Failed to open driver node /dev/megadev0" (really I don't have
> one). BTW on xterm it shows the same message.

Oops - I was lacking a linux compat_linux port... Installed one, (fc3),
and now I have the same problem about not finding megadev0, even tho I
have an amr...

Thanks for everyone's help so far... Any more ideas?

Cheers,
Brian

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PS - mknod c 254 /compat/linux/dev/megadev0 (which is what the device is
under linux) doesn't help :(

>
>> On Tue, 9 May 2006 10:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Brian Szymanski wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, duh, it's been so long since I used linux binary emulation that I
>>> forgot all about brandelf... Thanks Michael!
>>
>>> ... But now that the binary is properly branded, I get a different
>>> error:
>>>   Error opening terminal: xterm.
>>> I get the same error for xterm-color, cons25, vt220, and everything
>>> else
>>> I've tried... (and I know for a fact that TERM=xterm works on my linux
>>> machines)... Any ideas?
>>
>> Just load
>> http://www.lsilogic.com/cm/License.do?url=/files/support/rsa/utilities/megamgr/ut_linux_mgr_5.20.zip&prodName=MegaRAID%20SATA%20150-4&subType=Miscellaneous
>> Unzipped it, branded and run ./megamgr.bin as root on _console_. I've
>> got "Failed to open driver node /dev/megadev0" (really I don't have
>> one). BTW on xterm it shows the same message.
>
> Oops - I was lacking a linux compat_linux port... Installed one, (fc3),
> and now I have the same problem about not finding megadev0, even tho I
> have an amr...
>
> Thanks for everyone's help so far... Any more ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Brian
>
>>
>>
>> WBR
>> --
>> Boris B. Samorodov, Research Engineer
>> InPharmTech Co,     http://www.ipt.ru
>> Telephone & Internet Service Provider
>>
>>
>
>
> Brian Szymanski
> Software and Systems Developer
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>




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On Tue, 9 May 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Brian Szymanski wrote:

> PS - mknod c 254 /compat/linux/dev/megadev0 (which is what the device is
> under linux) doesn't help :(

I't only my imho, use it with care:

# cd /dev
# ln -s amr0 megadev0

> >> On Tue, 9 May 2006 10:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Brian Szymanski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh, duh, it's been so long since I used linux binary emulation that I
> >>> forgot all about brandelf... Thanks Michael!
> >>
> >>> ... But now that the binary is properly branded, I get a different
> >>> error:
> >>>   Error opening terminal: xterm.
> >>> I get the same error for xterm-color, cons25, vt220, and everything
> >>> else
> >>> I've tried... (and I know for a fact that TERM=xterm works on my linux
> >>> machines)... Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Just load
> >> http://www.lsilogic.com/cm/License.do?url=/files/support/rsa/utilities/megamgr/ut_linux_mgr_5.20.zip&prodName=MegaRAID%20SATA%20150-4&subType=Miscellaneous
> >> Unzipped it, branded and run ./megamgr.bin as root on _console_. I've
> >> got "Failed to open driver node /dev/megadev0" (really I don't have
> >> one). BTW on xterm it shows the same message.
> >
> > Oops - I was lacking a linux compat_linux port... Installed one, (fc3),
> > and now I have the same problem about not finding megadev0, even tho I
> > have an amr...
> >
> > Thanks for everyone's help so far... Any more ideas?


WBR
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Thank you for your help.

I try to do that, but i get the same problem.

now the error is:

module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6

after that the installation is stopped.

I try to with 6.1 STABLE and get the same problem.

El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 09:18, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> On 5/9/06, Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > > No, but i will install 6.1 STABLE
> > >
> > > thank you
> > >
> > > El Lunes, 8 de Mayo de 2006 20:31, Mike Jakubik escribi=F3:
> > > > Alejandro Ruiz Robles wrote:
> > > > > I can't install freebsd 6.0 STABLE amd64 on my notebook:
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried 6.1-RC2?
> >
> > As Mike has suggested give FreeBSD/AMD64 6.1-RC2 a try.
>
> Just noticed that 6.1-RELEASE is available, give that a try.
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Boris Samorodov writes:
| On Tue, 9 May 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Brian Szymanski wrote:
| > PS - mknod c 254 /compat/linux/dev/megadev0 (which is what the device is
| > under linux) doesn't help :(
| 
| I't only my imho, use it with care:
| 
| # cd /dev
| # ln -s amr0 megadev0

Nope, it needs to show up in devfs.  Making a node manually is going
to cause trouble.  If there isn't a /dev/megadev0 then you don't
have the amr_linux loaded.  You can try to kldload but you might
have to compile it in static.

Doug A.

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kldload amr_linux did the trick for me, thanks!

Cheers,
B

> Boris Samorodov writes:
> | On Tue, 9 May 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Brian Szymanski wrote:
> | > PS - mknod c 254 /compat/linux/dev/megadev0 (which is what the device
> is
> | > under linux) doesn't help :(
> |
> | I't only my imho, use it with care:
> |
> | # cd /dev
> | # ln -s amr0 megadev0
>
> Nope, it needs to show up in devfs.  Making a node manually is going
> to cause trouble.  If there isn't a /dev/megadev0 then you don't
> have the amr_linux loaded.  You can try to kldload but you might
> have to compile it in static.
>
> Doug A.
>
>


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Brian Szymanski writes:
| kldload amr_linux did the trick for me, thanks!

Good to hear.  You might want to look at megarc and megamonitor for Linux.
Hopefully, LSI updated megamonitor to fix the share memory leak or it
will exit in about 1/2 hour on FreeBSD since we don't allow us much
shared memory usage as Linux.  It leaks on Linux.  It just takes longer
to use it all up.

Doug A.

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Thank for your help, the problem is after to select installation default,=20
whitout acpi or safe mode, in all cases the boot loader crashing after the=
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in 6.1 stable

module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6

in 6.0 stable

timecounters tick every 1000 msec
Linux ELF exec handler install
lo0.bpf attached

thank you.

El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 09:08, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > No, but i will install 6.1 STABLE
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > El Lunes, 8 de Mayo de 2006 20:31, Mike Jakubik escribi=F3:
> > > Alejandro Ruiz Robles wrote:
> > > > I can't install freebsd 6.0 STABLE amd64 on my notebook:
> > >
> > > Have you tried 6.1-RC2?
>
> As Mike has suggested give FreeBSD/AMD64 6.1-RC2 a try.
>
> If you have a problem with the boot loader crashing after it loads
> /boot/loader.conf from the install CD, just power off and on the
> system, then when you see the boot loader, repeatedly hit the space
> bar, until you see that it is loading /boot/kernel/kernel.  After
> this, it will then be able to load the system installer, and allow you
> to install the system.  When the system is installed you'll have no
> problem booting the system from the harddrive.
>
> This is what I had to do on my HP Pavilion dv8xxx (AMD Turion 64 ML-37)
> System.
>
> Scot
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Thank for your help, the problem is after to select installation default,=20
whitout acpi or safe mode, in all cases the boot loader crashing after the=
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in 6.1 stable

module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6

in 6.0 stable

timecounters tick every 1000 msec
Linux ELF exec handler install
lo0.bpf attached

thank you.

El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 09:08, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > No, but i will install 6.1 STABLE
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > El Lunes, 8 de Mayo de 2006 20:31, Mike Jakubik escribi=F3:
> > > Alejandro Ruiz Robles wrote:
> > > > I can't install freebsd 6.0 STABLE amd64 on my notebook:
> > >
> > > Have you tried 6.1-RC2?
>
> As Mike has suggested give FreeBSD/AMD64 6.1-RC2 a try.
>
> If you have a problem with the boot loader crashing after it loads
> /boot/loader.conf from the install CD, just power off and on the
> system, then when you see the boot loader, repeatedly hit the space
> bar, until you see that it is loading /boot/kernel/kernel.  After
> this, it will then be able to load the system installer, and allow you
> to install the system.  When the system is installed you'll have no
> problem booting the system from the harddrive.
>
> This is what I had to do on my HP Pavilion dv8xxx (AMD Turion 64 ML-37)
> System.
>
> Scot
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Thank for your help, the problem is after to select installation default,=20
whitout acpi or safe mode, in all cases the boot loader crashing after the=
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next message:

in 6.1 stable

module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6

in 6.0 stable

timecounters tick every 1000 msec
Linux ELF exec handler install
lo0.bpf attached

thank you.

El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 09:08, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > No, but i will install 6.1 STABLE
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > El Lunes, 8 de Mayo de 2006 20:31, Mike Jakubik escribi=F3:
> > > Alejandro Ruiz Robles wrote:
> > > > I can't install freebsd 6.0 STABLE amd64 on my notebook:
> > >
> > > Have you tried 6.1-RC2?
>
> As Mike has suggested give FreeBSD/AMD64 6.1-RC2 a try.
>
> If you have a problem with the boot loader crashing after it loads
> /boot/loader.conf from the install CD, just power off and on the
> system, then when you see the boot loader, repeatedly hit the space
> bar, until you see that it is loading /boot/kernel/kernel.  After
> this, it will then be able to load the system installer, and allow you
> to install the system.  When the system is installed you'll have no
> problem booting the system from the harddrive.
>
> This is what I had to do on my HP Pavilion dv8xxx (AMD Turion 64 ML-37)
> System.
>
> Scot
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On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> Thank you for your help.
>
> I try to do that, but i get the same problem.
>
> now the error is:
>
> module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6
>
> after that the installation is stopped.

I get this same error when I boot either a GENERIC kernel on my
installed system, or from the FreeBSD/amd64 6.1-RELEASE CD.

The CD does continue into the System Installation.

>
> I try to with 6.1 STABLE and get the same problem.

When the boot loader comes up, try selecting the option to boot
without acpi and see if that will allow the installation to proceed.

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On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
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> whitout acpi or safe mode, in all cases the boot loader crashing after th=
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> in 6.1 stable
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> module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6
>
Actually, this is from the kernel, not the boot loader.  Is the system
hung at this point or is there any other information displayed after
this gets printed?  As this information would help the developers
determine whats going wrong on your system.

If there is additional information, a backtrace (bt) from the debugger
prompt would be useful.

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I can compile an amd64 kernel just fine without the option COMPAT_43, 
but not i386. Why is this?

/usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/linux_sysvec.c:36:2: #error 
"Unable to compile Linux-emulator due to missing COMPAT_43 option!"
mkdep: compile failed

I don't want or need the Linux-emulator.


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Colleagues,

${SUBJ} says almost all. PXEboot leads to 

Can't work out which disk we are booting from.

error.

Ungzipping /boot/mfsroot.gz helps

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Dmitry Morozovsky schrieb:
> Colleagues,
> 
> ${SUBJ} says almost all. PXEboot leads to 
> 
> Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
> 
> error.
> 
> Ungzipping /boot/mfsroot.gz helps

Hello Dmitry,

I can't report any problems regarding this with 6.0-RELEASE. Can you 
show me

   find /tftproot -type f

and

   cat /tftpdroot/boot/loader.conf

please?

Did you compiled pxeboot without gzip support accidentally?

Regards
  Björn

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On Tue, 9 May 2006, Bj?rn K?nig wrote:

BK> > ${SUBJ} says almost all. PXEboot leads to 
BK> > Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
BK> > 
BK> > error.
BK> > 
BK> > Ungzipping /boot/mfsroot.gz helps
BK> 
BK> Hello Dmitry,
BK> 
BK> I can't report any problems regarding this with 6.0-RELEASE. Can you show me
BK> 
BK>   find /tftproot -type f

pxeboot only

BK>   cat /tftpdroot/boot/loader.conf

none

BK> Did you compiled pxeboot without gzip support accidentally?

No, I did mount release ISO via md as NFS root for given machine:

host gwp {
  hardware ethernet 00:16:35:***;
  filename "pxeboot";
  option root-path "192.168.200.1:/pxe/amd64/6.1-R/";
  option routers 192.168.200.1;
}


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D.Marck                                     [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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I'm trying to get imap-uw built on 5.4-RELEASE so that it wil allow 
plaintext logins.  (All connections will be from localhost so I'm not 
concerned with SSL)  But it doesn't want to behave itself.  I've tried 
building it this way:

# cd /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw
# make -DWITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT

and it complains that I'm buildling it with plaintext enabled, as it 
should:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Building in PARTIAL compliance with RFC 3501 security
+ requirements:
+ Compliant:
++ TLS/SSL encryption is supported
+ Non-compliant:
++ Unencrypted plaintext passwords are permitted
+
+ In order to rectify this problem, you MUST build with:
++ SSLTYPE=unix.nopwd
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

but when I install it then telnet there I get:

# !telnet
telnet 0 143
Trying 0.0.0.0...
Connected to 0.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS STARTTLS
LOGINDISABLED] mail1.jasons.us IMAP4rev1 2004.357 at Tue, 9 May 2006
15:25:26 -0400 (EDT)

So somewhere it's still not allowing cleartext log-ins.  Any ideas? 
Alternatively I'd be glad to get squirelmail working with encryption but 
that doesn't want to work either.

Suggestions welcome for either problem.

-- 
-Jason

-----
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
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jason wrote:
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> I'm trying to get imap-uw built on 5.4-RELEASE so that it wil allow 
> plaintext logins.  (All connections will be from localhost so I'm not 
> concerned with SSL)  But it doesn't want to behave itself.  I've tried 
> building it this way:

This belongs more on the ports mailing list, not stable. I don't know 
why you have this problem, but i would suggest you use dovecot or 
courier as an imap server instead.

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Mike Jakubik wrote:
> jason wrote:
>> I'm trying to get imap-uw built on 5.4-RELEASE so that it wil allow 
>> plaintext logins.  (All connections will be from localhost so I'm not 
>> concerned with SSL)  But it doesn't want to behave itself.  I've tried 
>> building it this way:
> 
> This belongs more on the ports mailing list, not stable. I don't know 
> why you have this problem, but i would suggest you use dovecot or 
> courier as an imap server instead.

Not to beat an off-topic horse, but...

When I switched from Courier IMAP to Dovecot, I saw a huge increase in 
performance.  Dovecot uses index files that prevent it from having to 
continually scan a mailbox for every request.  For my largest folders 
(30,000+ messages), Dovecot was *at least* an order of magnitude faster.

-Jonathan

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On Tue, 9 May 2006, Jonathan Noack wrote:

> Not to beat an off-topic horse, but...
>
> When I switched from Courier IMAP to Dovecot, I saw a huge increase in 
> performance.  Dovecot uses index files that prevent it from having to 
> continually scan a mailbox for every request.  For my largest folders 
> (30,000+ messages), Dovecot was *at least* an order of magnitude faster.

I got it to work right.  It turns out that I had to make clean on both
cclient and imap-uw, build cclient with "-D WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT",
install it and then do the same with imap-uw.  Oh, and it helps to spell
"PLAINTEXT" correctly.  "PLAIMTEXT" doesn't have the same effect.

Thanks for the pointer to Dovecot - I'll check it out.  Sorry about the 
mostly-OT chatter.

-Jason

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6.1 STABLE amd64

The last messages is:

Device configuration finished.
procfs registered
linprocfs registered
lapic: Divisior 2, Frecuency 99710124hz
Timecounters "TSC" frecuency 1794793456 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6
Linux ELF exec handler installed
lo0: bpf attached
rr232x: no controller detected.

Thank you.


El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 13:09, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > Thank for your help, the problem is after to select installation defaul=
t,
> > whitout acpi or safe mode, in all cases the boot loader crashing after
> > the next message:
> >
> > in 6.1 stable
> >
> > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error=
 6
>
> Actually, this is from the kernel, not the boot loader.  Is the system
> hung at this point or is there any other information displayed after
> this gets printed?  As this information would help the developers
> determine whats going wrong on your system.
>
> If there is additional information, a backtrace (bt) from the debugger
> prompt would be useful.
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6.1 STABLE amd64

The last messages is:

Device configuration finished.
procfs registered
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Timecounters "TSC" frecuency 1794793456 Hz quality 800
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module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6
Linux ELF exec handler installed
lo0: bpf attached
rr232x: no controller detected.

Thank you.


El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 13:09, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > Thank for your help, the problem is after to select installation defaul=
t,
> > whitout acpi or safe mode, in all cases the boot loader crashing after
> > the next message:
> >
> > in 6.1 stable
> >
> > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error=
 6
>
> Actually, this is from the kernel, not the boot loader.  Is the system
> hung at this point or is there any other information displayed after
> this gets printed?  As this information would help the developers
> determine whats going wrong on your system.
>
> If there is additional information, a backtrace (bt) from the debugger
> prompt would be useful.
>
> Scot
> --
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On Monday 08 May 2006 12:48, Sam Leffler wrote:
> If I had intended stable users to try this code I would have:
>
> 1. posted to stable@
> 2. provided specific changes for those users (e.g. a patch)
>
> You will note my initial post about a new hal was done to both mailing
> lists.  I did not post this hal to stable because I did not want to deal
> with people complaining that things did not work because they had
> problems back-patching the necessary changes.  I included info in my
> original post for those folks running current that were going to do it
> anyway so they could save some time.
>
> I replied to your post because all it did was set people up for failures
> that would result in mail to me that I don't have time to handle.  Then
> those people would either get frustrated by not getting an answer or
> think there was some problem that wasn't being fixed.
>
> I treat the stable src tree VERY carefully.  I do not inflict pain on
> users running stable.  I do not arbitrarily commit changes that require
> people to manually alter their system or otherwise deal with binary
> incompatibilities.  I treat stable as a production code base and only
> apply changes that are considered well-tested and appropriate to run in
> a production environment.
>


got your point

but this is free software and anybody can contribute as well as anybody may=
=20
decide what works for him or not and use it then with the same spirit. It i=
s=20
oustanding that you are responsible and well organized with your work  but=
=20
this should not cut others freedom to mix it up for themselfs.

Good talk, let's move on and may be you find some time to help me finding o=
ut=20
why this damned ath cards sometimes stop rx/tx under load.=20

Jo=E3o













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Doug White wrote:
> On Sat, 6 May 2006, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
> 
>> I found that installworld stops, because the 'audit' group has not been
>> created. Now I just pressed 'return' for the default actions during
>> mergemaster -p, but I didn't notice any mention of the audit group.
> 
> The default action is to do nothing, so its possible you just missed it as
> you were blazing through. :-)
> 

Just updated another box to 6.1-STABLE, and yes I did 'return' though 
it. The reason being mergemaster -p wanted to patch my group file to 
remove all the additions (i.e, useful groups and group -> user 
associations) as *well* as add the audit group.

Would be possible (or sensible) to 2-stage this sort of thing? i.e:

1/ Add required new groups
2/ Offer to patch 'em back to default.

Cheers

Mark

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Hi Mark,

On Wednesday 10 May 2006 00:51, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
> Doug White wrote:
> > On Sat, 6 May 2006, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
> >> I found that installworld stops, because the 'audit' group has not been
> >> created. Now I just pressed 'return' for the default actions during
> >> mergemaster -p, but I didn't notice any mention of the audit group.
> >
> > The default action is to do nothing, so its possible you just missed it
> > as you were blazing through. :-)
>
> Just updated another box to 6.1-STABLE, and yes I did 'return' though
> it. The reason being mergemaster -p wanted to patch my group file to
> remove all the additions (i.e, useful groups and group -> user
> associations) as *well* as add the audit group.

Well unless -p changes mergemaster's behaviour, the general idea is that you 
press 'm' for merge ( correct me if I'm wrong but I think mergemaster was 
named after this feature :P ). It will let you add the new audit group _and_ 
keep the extra groups.

>
> Would be possible (or sensible) to 2-stage this sort of thing? i.e:
>
> 1/ Add required new groups
> 2/ Offer to patch 'em back to default.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
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On May 9, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Pieter de Goeje wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> On Wednesday 10 May 2006 00:51, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
>> Doug White wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 May 2006, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
>>>> I found that installworld stops, because the 'audit' group has  
>>>> not been
>>>> created. Now I just pressed 'return' for the default actions during
>>>> mergemaster -p, but I didn't notice any mention of the audit group.
>>>
>>> The default action is to do nothing, so its possible you just  
>>> missed it
>>> as you were blazing through. :-)
>>
>> Just updated another box to 6.1-STABLE, and yes I did 'return' though
>> it. The reason being mergemaster -p wanted to patch my group file to
>> remove all the additions (i.e, useful groups and group -> user
>> associations) as *well* as add the audit group.
>
> Well unless -p changes mergemaster's behaviour, the general idea is  
> that you
> press 'm' for merge ( correct me if I'm wrong but I think  
> mergemaster was
> named after this feature :P ). It will let you add the new audit  
> group _and_
> keep the extra groups.

I can vouch for this working properly!

I just ran mergemaster -p in the process of upgrading, when it gets  
to the passwd and group file, I press M for merge, and select from l  
and r (left and right) which side I want to keep. Thus I get the new  
FreeBSD ID string, the new audit group, and all my old local mods.

Scott

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Pieter de Goeje wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> On Wednesday 10 May 2006 00:51, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
>> Just updated another box to 6.1-STABLE, and yes I did 'return' though
>> it. The reason being mergemaster -p wanted to patch my group file to
>> remove all the additions (i.e, useful groups and group -> user
>> associations) as *well* as add the audit group.
> 
> Well unless -p changes mergemaster's behaviour, the general idea is that you 
> press 'm' for merge ( correct me if I'm wrong but I think mergemaster was 
> named after this feature :P ). It will let you add the new audit group _and_ 
> keep the extra groups.
> 
>

Thanks all - You are quite right - I'm clearly just being a bit thick...

Cheers

Mark


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On Tue, 9 May 2006, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:

DM> Colleagues,
DM> 
DM> ${SUBJ} says almost all. PXEboot leads to 
DM> 
DM> Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
DM> 
DM> error.
DM> 
DM> Ungzipping /boot/mfsroot.gz helps

This was too early positive. It does not help, as unzipped mfsroot is not 
actually loaded as filesystem:

OK ls
/
 ?  boot
 ?  boot.config
 ?  boot.catalog
 ?  cdrom.inf
OK lsmod  
 0x100000: /boot/kernel/kernel (elf kernel, 0x8e4268)
  modules: linux.1 rr232x.1 io.1 splash.1 agp.1 nfsserver.1 nfslock.1 nfs.1 
nfs4.1 wlan.1 if_gif.1 if_faith.1 ether.1 sysvshm.1 sysvsem.1 sysvmsg.1 
cd9660.1 isa.1 pseudofs.1 procfs.1 ntfs.1 msdosfs.1 usb.1 cdce.0 random.1 
ppbus.1 pci.1 pccard.1 null.1 mpt_raid.1 mpt.1 mpt_cam.1 mpt_core.1 miibus.1 
mem.1 isp.1 sbp.1 fwe.1 firewire.1 exca.1 cardbus.1 ast.1 afd.1 acd.1 ataraid.1 
atapci.1 ad.1 ata.1 ahc.1 ahd.1 ahd_pci.1 ahc_pci.1 ahc_isa.1 acpi_pci.1 acpi.1 
linprocfs.1 cam.1 
 0x9e4268: /boot/mfsroot (mfs_root, 0x800000)

So after loading kernel it complains:

init: not found in path /sbin/init:/sbin/oinit:/sbin/init.bak:/rescue/init:/stand/sysinstall
panic: no init

(while there was line

md0: Preloaded image </boot/mfsroot> 8388608 bytes at 0xffffffff809e4268

a few lines before...)

... will experiment further...

Sincerely,
D.Marck                                     [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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Dmitry Morozovsky schrieb:

> BK>   cat /tftpdroot/boot/loader.conf
> 
> none

Then loader.conf of your NFS root.

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Mike Jakubik schrieb:
> I can compile an amd64 kernel just fine without the option COMPAT_43, 
> but not i386. Why is this?
> 
> /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/linux_sysvec.c:36:2: #error 
> "Unable to compile Linux-emulator due to missing COMPAT_43 option!"
> mkdep: compile failed
> 
> I don't want or need the Linux-emulator.

The corresponding module will be built nevertheless. If you want to 
build only a selection of modules then you have to specify 
MODULES_OVERRIDE, e.g.

   makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE="acpi"

in your kernel configuration file.

Regards
  Björn

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On Wed, 10 May 2006, Bj?rn K?nig wrote:

BK> > BK>   cat /tftpdroot/boot/loader.conf
BK> > 
BK> > none
BK> 
BK> Then loader.conf of your NFS root.

It was original from bootonly CD:

mfsroot_load="YES"
mfsroot_type="mfs_root"
mfsroot_name="/boot/mfsroot"

Then, I has added 

console="comconsole"
comconsole_speed="115200"

to simplify debugging.

"Funny. No response" (c) Larry ;-)

Moreover, after loading kernel loader unconditionally switches back to 
vidconsole, so the last lines on serial are

/boot/kernel/kernel text=0x5ad998 data=0xc99d8+0x611f8 
syms=[0x8+0x91458+0x8+0x7a22e]
\

Then on VGA (I don't know which exactly line is printed after that, but I guess 
right after /boot/kernel/kernel) it writes

'Can't work out which disk we are booting from.' 

and so on from loader/main.c:extract_currdev()


Sincerely,
D.Marck                                     [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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On Wed, 10 May 2006, Bj?rn K?nig wrote:

BK> > I can compile an amd64 kernel just fine without the option COMPAT_43, but
BK> > not i386. Why is this?
BK> > 
BK> > /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/linux_sysvec.c:36:2: #error
BK> > "Unable to compile Linux-emulator due to missing COMPAT_43 option!"
BK> > mkdep: compile failed
BK> > 
BK> > I don't want or need the Linux-emulator.
BK> 
BK> The corresponding module will be built nevertheless. If you want to build
BK> only a selection of modules then you have to specify MODULES_OVERRIDE, e.g.
BK> 
BK>   makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE="acpi"
BK> 
BK> in your kernel configuration file.

It seems WITHOUT_MODULES is more appropriate, as written in make.con example:

# The list of modules to never build, applied *after* MODULES_OVERRIDE.
#WITHOUT_MODULES=       bktr plip


Sincerely,
D.Marck                                     [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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hey guys, i've been having this trouble on and off for
quite awhile, sometimes while running 'portsdb -Uu'
(after a cvsup) the box just freezes, along with the
power? i'm running 5.3-RELEASE.

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see: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/todo.html
Is it the final status of things when went into 6.1R?

I am particulary interested in status of the following 
problems:


devfs locking problem
unmount pending error
swap_pager warnings
pty leak
"calcru: runtime went backwards" problem for threaded program
update sysinstall disk labeling

Regards,
Artem

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On Wed 2006-05-10 (09:31), gareth wrote:
> hey guys, i've been having this trouble on and off for
> quite awhile, sometimes while running 'portsdb -Uu'
> (after a cvsup) the box just freezes, along with the
> power? i'm running 5.3-RELEASE.

ok, i did:

cd /usr/ports
rm INDEX*
make fetchindex

amongst other things, and every time, running 'portsdb -Uu'
cripples the machine. i'm not too keen to see where exactly
it dies since it'll result in another hard shutdown.

but, if i just run portversion, it creates the INDEX-5.db,
so i'm not sure why i'm running 'portsdb -Uu' in the first
place?

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l.s.

After running cvsup to RELENG_6_1, I started `make buildworld
KERNCONF=3DBEASTIE61` as per the handbook's '21.4.1 The Canonical Way to
Update Your System'

In libexec/mail.local I get the following on stderr
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: libldap-2.2.so.7, needed by
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: liblber-2.2.so.7, needed by
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_get_dn'
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_unbind'
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_first_entry'
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_simple_bind_s'
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_set_option'
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_memfree'
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_init'
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_search_ext_s'
/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_msgfree'

>From stdout I had
=3D=3D=3D> libexec/mail.local (all)
cc -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -march=3Dpentium3m
-I/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I.
-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL  -c
/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/mail.local/mail.local.c
cc -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -march=3Dpentium3m
-I/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I.
-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL   -L/usr/local/lib -o mail.local
mail.local.o /usr/obj/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../lib/libsm/libsm.a
-lsasl
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/libexec/mail.local.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/libexec.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

portversion -v on ldap shows
[root@beastie:~]# portversion -v | grep ldap
openldap-client-2.2.30      =3D  up-to-date with port

And in /usr/local/lib I do find
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       16 Jan 18 23:27 liblber-2.2.so ->
liblber-2.2.so.7
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel    67109 Jan 18 23:27 liblber-2.2.so.7
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel    73738 Jan 18 23:27 liblber.a
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       16 Jan 18 23:27 liblber.so -> liblber-2.2.=
so.7
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       16 Jan 18 23:27 libldap-2.2.so ->
libldap-2.2.so.7
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   233395 Jan 18 23:27 libldap-2.2.so.7
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   278908 Jan 18 23:27 libldap.a
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       16 Jan 18 23:27 libldap.so -> libldap-2.2.=
so.7
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       18 Jan 18 23:27 libldap_r-2.2.so ->
libldap_r-2.2.so.7
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   254255 Jan 18 23:27 libldap_r-2.2.so.7
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   310072 Jan 18 23:27 libldap_r.a
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       18 Jan 18 23:27 libldap_r.so ->
libldap_r-2.2.so.7

[root@beastie:/usr/local/lib]# uname -a
FreeBSD beastie 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #1: Tue Jan 17 12:53:38
CET 2006     root@beastie:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE6  i386

Probably something obvious that I'm missing?

Thanks in advance,

Spil

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Spil Oss wrote:
> l.s.
>
> After running cvsup to RELENG_6_1, I started `make buildworld
> KERNCONF=BEASTIE61` as per the handbook's '21.4.1 The Canonical Way to
> Update Your System'
>
> In libexec/mail.local I get the following on stderr
> /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: libldap-2.2.so.7, needed by
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
> /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: liblber-2.2.so.7, needed by
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_get_dn'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_unbind'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_first_entry'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_simple_bind_s'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_set_option'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_memfree'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_init'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_search_ext_s'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_msgfree'
>
>> From stdout I had
> ===> libexec/mail.local (all)
> cc -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -march=pentium3m
> -I/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I.
> -I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL  -c
> /usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/mail.local/mail.local.c 
>
> cc -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -march=pentium3m
> -I/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I.
> -I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL   -L/usr/local/lib -o mail.local
> mail.local.o /usr/obj/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../lib/libsm/libsm.a
> -lsasl
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src/libexec/mail.local.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src/libexec.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
>
> portversion -v on ldap shows
> [root@beastie:~]# portversion -v | grep ldap
> openldap-client-2.2.30      =  up-to-date with port
>
> And in /usr/local/lib I do find
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       16 Jan 18 23:27 liblber-2.2.so ->
> liblber-2.2.so.7
> -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel    67109 Jan 18 23:27 liblber-2.2.so.7
> -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel    73738 Jan 18 23:27 liblber.a
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       16 Jan 18 23:27 liblber.so -> 
> liblber-2.2.so.7
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       16 Jan 18 23:27 libldap-2.2.so ->
> libldap-2.2.so.7
> -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   233395 Jan 18 23:27 libldap-2.2.so.7
> -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   278908 Jan 18 23:27 libldap.a
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       16 Jan 18 23:27 libldap.so -> 
> libldap-2.2.so.7
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       18 Jan 18 23:27 libldap_r-2.2.so ->
> libldap_r-2.2.so.7
> -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   254255 Jan 18 23:27 libldap_r-2.2.so.7
> -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   310072 Jan 18 23:27 libldap_r.a
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel       18 Jan 18 23:27 libldap_r.so ->
> libldap_r-2.2.so.7
>
> [root@beastie:/usr/local/lib]# uname -a
> FreeBSD beastie 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #1: Tue Jan 17 12:53:38
> CET 2006     root@beastie:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE6  i386
>
> Probably something obvious that I'm missing?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Spil
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>
What's in your /etc/make.conf?

Duane Whitty
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I have installed FreeBSD-6.1 from cdrom yesterday on my machine
a P4 with hyperthreading. It crashed some hours later when
i was accessing the packages cdrom, specifically doing
cd /cdrom/pa<Tab>
This is with the installed kernel, no modification whatsoever.
I don't have the corresponding debugging kernel, so all i have is:
niobe# kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /var/crash/vmcore.0
[GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so:
Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"]
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd".
(no debugging symbols found)...Attempt to extract a component of a value that
is not a structure pointer.
(kgdb) bt
#0  0xc0650272 in doadump ()
#1  0xc06507c9 in boot ()
#2  0xc0650af1 in panic ()
#3  0xc084a2cc in trap_fatal ()
#4  0xc084a00b in trap_pfault ()
#5  0xc0849c45 in trap ()
#6  0xc0836c4a in calltrap ()
#7  0xc061681e in g_io_request ()
#8  0xc0618de9 in g_vfs_strategy ()
#9  0xc0620dc9 in cd9660_strategy ()
#10 0xc085c229 in VOP_STRATEGY_APV ()
#11 0xc069c5b0 in bufstrategy ()
#12 0xc0696e19 in breadn ()
#13 0xc0696d5c in bread ()
#14 0xc061d6d5 in cd9660_blkatoff ()
#15 0xc06208a2 in cd9660_readdir ()
#16 0xc085bf34 in VOP_READDIR_APV ()
#17 0xc06b26a3 in getdirentries ()
#18 0xc084a613 in syscall ()
#19 0xc0836c9f in Xint0x80_syscall ()
#20 0x00000033 in ?? ()

I don't suspect a hardware problem since this machine has run FreeBSD-5.3
and 5.4 previously without trouble, there is no overheating, etc.
As for the cdrom, after reboot i have installed the whole KDE plus a lot
of other things from it without problem.



Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)
(kgdb) quit


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I've just installed a Netgear PCI WG311T card and while it works fine
under windows, I cannot seem to get it to work under BSD at all.  I am
just wondering what am I doing wrong?...=20

Anyone has any idea?

# uname -a
FreeBSD gridlinked.neverness.org 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #6: Fri Apr =
21 10:49:57 BST 2006 root@gridlinked.neverness.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/gri=
dlinked  i386

# dmesg | grep -i ath   =20
ath0: <Atheros 5212> mem 0xeb000000-0xeb00ffff irq 19 at device 12.0 on pci0
ath0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:b5:f8:3b:92
ath0: mac 7.9 phy 4.5 radio 5.6

# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.0.14 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid NEVERNESS
# tail -1 /var/log/messages
May 10 07:55:27 gridlinked kernel: ath0: link state changed to UP

# ifconfig ath0
ath0: flags=3D8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet6 fe80::20f:b5ff:fef8:3b92%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2=20
        inet 192.168.0.14 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
        ether 00:0f:b5:f8:3b:92
        media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/1Mbps)
        status: associated
        ssid NEVERNESS channel 6 bssid 00:0f:b5:c1:09:18
        authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 32 protmode CTS bintval 100

# ifconfig ath0 up scan
SSID            BSSID              CHAN RATE  S:N   INT CAPS
Sha linksys     00:12:17:c5:2d:2a    9   54M  4:0   100 EPS=20
OJS70           00:14:7c:b7:2d:84   11   54M 34:0   100 EPS=20
NEVERNESS       00:0f:b5:c1:09:18    6   54M 24:0   100 ES =20

[Unplug Ethernet cable]
# ping 192.168.0.14
PING 192.168.0.14 (192.168.0.14): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Host is down

--=20
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On Tue, 9 May 2006, Scott Harrison wrote:

> 	This sounds nice except that I do not have my disk already
> partitioned like this.  Can I take a 4.7 machine (for example) and
> live repartition it to be like this?

It /is/ possible to upgrade from at least some versions of FreeBSD 4 to
some versions of FreeBSD 5 remotely without a spare partition (I've done
it a few times), but there's lots that can go wrong. See
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2004-01/0033.html

Watch out, though, after the 'tar' step you may find your binaries don't
work (including binaries like 'reboot'). Keeping a copy is a good idea.

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I tried to install 6.1 STABLE i386

and get the same error

rr232x: no controller detected.


what is that?

El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 17:12, Alejandro Ruiz Robles escribi=F3:
> 6.1 STABLE amd64
>
> The last messages is:
>
> Device configuration finished.
> procfs registered
> linprocfs registered
> lapic: Divisior 2, Frecuency 99710124hz
> Timecounters "TSC" frecuency 1794793456 Hz quality 800
> Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
> module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6
> Linux ELF exec handler installed
> lo0: bpf attached
> rr232x: no controller detected.
>
> Thank you.
>
> El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 13:09, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> > On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > > Thank for your help, the problem is after to select installation
> > > default, whitout acpi or safe mode, in all cases the boot loader
> > > crashing after the next message:
> > >
> > > in 6.1 stable
> > >
> > > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) err=
or
> > > 6
> >
> > Actually, this is from the kernel, not the boot loader.  Is the system
> > hung at this point or is there any other information displayed after
> > this gets printed?  As this information would help the developers
> > determine whats going wrong on your system.
> >
> > If there is additional information, a backtrace (bt) from the debugger
> > prompt would be useful.
> >
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I tried to install 6.1 STABLE i386

and get the same error

rr232x: no controller detected.


what is that?

El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 17:12, Alejandro Ruiz Robles escribi=F3:
> 6.1 STABLE amd64
>
> The last messages is:
>
> Device configuration finished.
> procfs registered
> linprocfs registered
> lapic: Divisior 2, Frecuency 99710124hz
> Timecounters "TSC" frecuency 1794793456 Hz quality 800
> Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
> module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) error 6
> Linux ELF exec handler installed
> lo0: bpf attached
> rr232x: no controller detected.
>
> Thank you.
>
> El Martes, 9 de Mayo de 2006 13:09, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> > On 5/9/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > > Thank for your help, the problem is after to select installation
> > > default, whitout acpi or safe mode, in all cases the boot loader
> > > crashing after the next message:
> > >
> > > in 6.1 stable
> > >
> > > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (arm_linux, 0xffffffff806205d0, 0) err=
or
> > > 6
> >
> > Actually, this is from the kernel, not the boot loader.  Is the system
> > hung at this point or is there any other information displayed after
> > this gets printed?  As this information would help the developers
> > determine whats going wrong on your system.
> >
> > If there is additional information, a backtrace (bt) from the debugger
> > prompt would be useful.
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On 05/10/06 06:22, gareth wrote:
> On Wed 2006-05-10 (09:31), gareth wrote:
>> hey guys, i've been having this trouble on and off for
>> quite awhile, sometimes while running 'portsdb -Uu'
>> (after a cvsup) the box just freezes, along with the
>> power? i'm running 5.3-RELEASE.
>=20
> ok, i did:
>=20
> cd /usr/ports
> rm INDEX*
> make fetchindex
>=20
> amongst other things, and every time, running 'portsdb -Uu'
> cripples the machine. i'm not too keen to see where exactly
> it dies since it'll result in another hard shutdown.

You are probably experiencing some of the VFS limitations in 5.3 (you'll
be pleasantly surprised by 6.1!).  "portsdb -Uu" is very CPU and IO
intensive; it takes a long time on a fast machine.  "make fetchindex" is
provided as a replacement for having to run "portsdb -Uu".  The only
downside is that the downloaded INDEX-5.db may be a few hours out of date=
=2E

> but, if i just run portversion, it creates the INDEX-5.db,
> so i'm not sure why i'm running 'portsdb -Uu' in the first
> place?

I would highly recommend checking out portsnap; it builds an up-to-date
INDEX-5.db file automatically as part of the update process.

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On 5/10/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> I tried to install 6.1 STABLE i386
>
> and get the same error
>
> rr232x: no controller detected.
>
>
> what is that?
>
rr232x(4)                - HighPoint RocketRAID 232x device driver

After my system prints:

 rr232x: no controller detected.

it then detects the disk drives and cdrom drive:

module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (amr_linux, 0xffffffff80617c70, 0) error 6
rr232x: no controller detected.
ad0: 95396MB <FUJITSU MHV2100AT PL 008300A1> at ata0-master UDMA100
ad1: 95396MB <FUJITSU MHV2100AT PL 008300A1> at ata0-slave UDMA100
acd0: DVDR <TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-L532M/HR08> at ata1-master PIO4
pcm0: <Conexant CX20468-21 AC97 Codec>
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a

So it looks as though it is unable to find your CD-ROM drive and disk drive=
s.

When it gets to "rr232x: no controller detected.", can you try hitting
the scroll lock key, and then use the page up key, to see if you can
scroll the screen up.  If you can, check if you are seeing the ata
driver being detected:

atapci0: <ATI IXP400 UDMA133 controller> port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x8410-0x841f irq 16 at device
20.1 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0

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Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> It seems WITHOUT_MODULES is more appropriate, as written in make.con example:
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> # The list of modules to never build, applied *after* MODULES_OVERRIDE.
> #WITHOUT_MODULES=       bktr plip
>   

Right, but why does it just work on amd64?


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On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:02:41 -0400 Mike Jakubik wrote:
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> >
> > # The list of modules to never build, applied *after* MODULES_OVERRIDE.
> > #WITHOUT_MODULES=       bktr plip

> Right, but why does it just work on amd64?

Maybe just because we don't have linuxolator for amd64?


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Yes, the ata driver being detected:

atapci0: <ATI IXP400 UDMA133 controller> port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x8410-0x841f irq 16 at device
20.1 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0



El Mi=E9rcoles, 10 de Mayo de 2006 11:36, Scot Hetzel escribi=F3:
> On 5/10/06, Alejandro Ruiz Robles <alejandro.ruiz@eys-ti.com> wrote:
> > I tried to install 6.1 STABLE i386
> >
> > and get the same error
> >
> > rr232x: no controller detected.
> >
> >
> > what is that?
>
> rr232x(4)                - HighPoint RocketRAID 232x device driver
>
> After my system prints:
>
>  rr232x: no controller detected.
>
> it then detects the disk drives and cdrom drive:
>
> module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (amr_linux, 0xffffffff80617c70, 0) error 6
> rr232x: no controller detected.
> ad0: 95396MB <FUJITSU MHV2100AT PL 008300A1> at ata0-master UDMA100
> ad1: 95396MB <FUJITSU MHV2100AT PL 008300A1> at ata0-slave UDMA100
> acd0: DVDR <TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-L532M/HR08> at ata1-master PIO4
> pcm0: <Conexant CX20468-21 AC97 Codec>
> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a
>
> So it looks as though it is unable to find your CD-ROM drive and disk
> drives.
>
> When it gets to "rr232x: no controller detected.", can you try hitting
> the scroll lock key, and then use the page up key, to see if you can
> scroll the screen up.  If you can, check if you are seeing the ata
> driver being detected:
>
> atapci0: <ATI IXP400 UDMA133 controller> port
> 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x8410-0x841f irq 16 at device
> 20.1 on pci0
> ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
> ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
>
> Scot
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On Wed, 10 May 2006, Mike Jakubik wrote:

MJ> Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
MJ> > It seems WITHOUT_MODULES is more appropriate, as written in make.con
MJ> > example:
MJ> > 
MJ> > # The list of modules to never build, applied *after* MODULES_OVERRIDE.
MJ> > #WITHOUT_MODULES=       bktr plip
MJ> >   
MJ> 
MJ> Right, but why does it just work on amd64?

Because there is mo linux module(s) om amd64, see /sys/modules/Makefile ;-)


Sincerely,
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Hi,

it seems that carp is broken on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE when an inet6
address is configured on a carp interface. Since I upgraded from 6.0 to 
6.1 (today) I can't see IPv6 carp advertisement with tcpdump.

Did someone else observe this ?

thanks
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Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2006, Mike Jakubik wrote:
>
> MJ> Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> MJ> > It seems WITHOUT_MODULES is more appropriate, as written in make.con
> MJ> > example:
> MJ> > 
> MJ> > # The list of modules to never build, applied *after* MODULES_OVERRIDE.
> MJ> > #WITHOUT_MODULES=       bktr plip
> MJ> >   
> MJ> 
> MJ> Right, but why does it just work on amd64?
>
> Because there is mo linux module(s) om amd64, see /sys/modules/Makefile ;-)
>   

Right, only the i386 compatible linux. The module options did the job, 
thanks.


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I have just taken the system on a Sony Vaio PCG-Z505SX laptop from
6.1-RC1 (2006/03/23) to 6.1-STABLE (2006/05/09) using a cvsup update
and full buildworld/buildkernel rebuild, while keeping the same
kernel config.

On booting the new system, apm no longer works.  Now, acpi never
work on this hardware anyway, but apm always worked fine.  On the
6.1-STABLE kernel, it doesn't probe or load properly at boot time.
For reasons I no longer recall, "device apm" is configured in this
kernel, rather than loading it as a module, and this has been fine
for years, in fact, since back in the 5.x days and for several 6.0
kernels as well as 6.1-RC1.

Here's the pertinent boot info:


FreeBSD 6.1-RC1 (2006/03/23):

real memory  = 134152192 (127 MB)
avail memory = 121733120 (116 MB)
ACPI disabled by blacklist.  Contact your BIOS vendor.
npx0: [FAST]
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
cpu0 on motherboard
apm0: <APM BIOS> on motherboard
apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2
pcib0: <Intel 82443BX host to PCI bridge (AGP disabled)> pcibus 0 on motherboard
pir0: <PCI Interrupt Routing Table: 7 Entries> on motherboard


FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE (2006/05/09):

real memory  = 134152192 (127 MB)
avail memory = 121733120 (116 MB)
ACPI disabled by blacklist.  Contact your BIOS vendor.
cpu0 on motherboard
apm: Other PM system enabled.
pcib0: <Intel 82443BX host to PCI bridge (AGP disabled)> pcibus 0 on motherboard
pir0: <PCI Interrupt Routing Table: 7 Entries> on motherboard


On 6.1-STABLE, the /dev/apm device is not created and so none of
the apm tools work.

I don't see any changes to any of the apm code (in the last year
or so, actually), so this is presumably due to a change at a lower
level?

Any thoughts?
	-jr

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Hi, freebsd-stable,

Just cvsupped and built my own v6.1, and am now unable to boot system.
Boot process proceeds to the USB detection phase, and locks right
after with panic: page fault.

Here is a transcript of what is shown on-screen before crash appears:

nvidia0: <GeForce 6800> mem
0xfa000000-0xfaffffff,0xe8000000-oxeffffff,0xfb000000-0xfbffffff irq
16 at device 0.0 on pci1
WARNING: Device driver "

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address                   =3D 0x480008
fault code                              =3D supervisor read, page not prese=
nt
instruction pointer                     =3D 0x20:0xc05936d6
stack pointer                           =3D 0x28:0xc102079c
frame pointer                           =3D 0x28:0xc102079c
code segment                            =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0=
x1b
                                        =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags                        =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=
 =3D 0
current process                         =3D 0 (swapper)
trap number                             =3D 12
panic: page fault
Uptime: 1s


Probably a few minor typos, but you get my drift. What fails here, and
what on earth can I do to be able to boot the box again? KERNCONF
based on GENERIC, but removing RAID, SCSI, all network cards (except
MIIBUS and RA), and added sound and atapicam. Make.conf also excludes
the following:

NO_ATM=3DYES
NO_AUTHPF=3Dyes
NO_BLUETOOTH=3Dyes
NO_FORTRAN=3Dyes
NO_GAMES=3Dyes
NO_I4B=3Dyes
NO_INET6=3DYES
NO_IPFILTER=3Dyes
NO_KERBEROS=3Dyes
NO_LPR=3Dyes
NO_OBJC=3Dyes
NO_PF=3Dyes
NO_PROFILE=3Dyes
NO_SENDMAIL=3Dyes
NO_TCSH=3Dyes
NO_USB=3Dyes
NO_VINUM=3DYES

Hope someone can shed any light on this, I'm completely left in the
blind... Single-user mode boot also fails, of course.

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Running 6.1-Release (upgraded from 6-stable) on an Intel server  
motherboard. In the boot dmesg I get this line:

pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)

I have nothing relating to SMB compiled in my kernel.

I do "kldload ichsmb"

ichsmb0: <Intel 6300ESB (ICH) SMBus controller> port 0x400-0x41f irq  
17 at device 31.3 on pci0
ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
smbus0: <System Management Bus> on ichsmb0

then "kldload smb" (do I need to do this?)

smb0: <SMBus generic I/O> on smbus0

I now have /dev/smb0

# mbmon -S -s0 -d
ioctl(smb0:writebyte): Device not configured

If I unload all the SMB related modules and run mbmon, I get

# mbmon -d
ioctl(smb0:open): No such file or directory
SMBus[Intel8XX(ICH/ICH2/ICH3/ICH4/ICH5/ICH6)] found, but No HWM  
available on it!!
Using ISA-IO access method!!
* Winbond Chip W83627HF/THF/THF-A found.

and just running mbmon gives an output

# mbmon
ioctl(smb0:open): No such file or directory

Temp.= 127.0, 115.0, 127.0; Rot.=    0, 1834, 2812
Vcore = 0.00, 1.17; Volt. = 3.33, 5.00, 12.22,   1.62,  0.23

I've tried the "consolehm" port as well, and it gives a lot of  
"IOCTL: Device not configured" errors.

Am I doing something wrong?

Scott


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On Thu, 11 May 2006 01:28:29 +0200 Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote:

> Just cvsupped and built my own v6.1, and am now unable to boot system.
> Boot process proceeds to the USB detection phase, and locks right
> after with panic: page fault.

> Here is a transcript of what is shown on-screen before crash appears:

> nvidia0: <GeForce 6800> mem
> 0xfa000000-0xfaffffff,0xe8000000-oxeffffff,0xfb000000-0xfbffffff irq
> 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
> WARNING: Device driver "

Did you install nvidia driver from ports? Then you should rebuild it.

> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
> fault virtual address                   = 0x480008
> fault code                              = supervisor read, page not present
> instruction pointer                     = 0x20:0xc05936d6
> stack pointer                           = 0x28:0xc102079c
> frame pointer                           = 0x28:0xc102079c
> code segment                            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>                                         = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
> processor eflags                        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
> current process                         = 0 (swapper)
> trap number                             = 12
> panic: page fault
> Uptime: 1s


> Probably a few minor typos, but you get my drift. What fails here, and
> what on earth can I do to be able to boot the box again? KERNCONF
> based on GENERIC, but removing RAID, SCSI, all network cards (except
> MIIBUS and RA), and added sound and atapicam. Make.conf also excludes
> the following:

> NO_ATM=YES
> NO_AUTHPF=yes
> NO_BLUETOOTH=yes
> NO_FORTRAN=yes
> NO_GAMES=yes
> NO_I4B=yes
> NO_INET6=YES
> NO_IPFILTER=yes
> NO_KERBEROS=yes
> NO_LPR=yes
> NO_OBJC=yes
> NO_PF=yes
> NO_PROFILE=yes
> NO_SENDMAIL=yes
> NO_TCSH=yes
> NO_USB=yes
> NO_VINUM=YES

> Hope someone can shed any light on this, I'm completely left in the
> blind... Single-user mode boot also fails, of course.


WBR
-- 
bsam

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Quoth Fabian Keil on Wed, May 10, 2006 at 20:22:47 +0200
> > > This could be the result of a routing problem.
> > > What's the output of ifconfig and netstat -rn?
> >=20
> > Yeah, that look like a likely culprit.  How do I change that?
>=20
> Using two IPs on the same network, with the same netmask
> on two different interfaces at the same time is asking for
> trouble.
>=20
> You can use route(8) to reconfigure the routes, but unless you
> change xl0's IP when it's down, it will grab the default route
> again.=20
>=20
> I guess you never need both NICs on the same network at the
> same time, so why don't you use a script which brings one
> NIC down, removes the IP, flushes all routes, brings the other
> NIC up, sets the IP and reconfigures the routes?

Many thank indeed, that did indeed solve the problem.=20

Now, all I need to do is to use some encryption and some find some
monitoring software to give me signal strength and things like that.
Any recommendations on either?

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On Thursday 11 May 2006 16:22, Yann Golanski wrote:
> Now, all I need to do is to use some encryption and some find some

Use WPA - man wpa_supplicant.
(Assuming your AP can support it)

> monitoring software to give me signal strength and things like that.
> Any recommendations on either?

ifconfig ath0 scan? :)
I see there is a gkrellm plugin in ports but I've never used it.

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On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 06:31:20PM -0400, J.R. Oldroyd wrote:
> apm: Other PM system enabled.

Could you edit /usr/src/sys/i386/bios/apm.c and a go to line
which says:

	printf("apm: Other PM system enabled.\n");

and replace it with:

	printf("apm: Other (%d) PM system enabled.\n", (int)power_pm_get_type());

and recompile and install your kernels and modules? I suspect that
it will show 1 for the type, which means that acpi has somehow
claimed the power management even though it is supposed to be turned
off.

	David.

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On Monday 08 May 2006 19:41, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:54:58PM +0200, Yuri Khotyaintsev wrote:
> > I have an NSF server and several clients which write large text files to
> > the server. All machines are running max one week old STABLE and are
> > connected to the same gigabit switch, and have identical nics (em). Amd
> > mount options are: /defaults
> > type:=3Dnfs;cache:=3Dall;opts:=3Drw,intr,nosuid,grpid,nfsv3,tcp,resvpor=
t,soft
> >
> > Almost all the time I get the following messages on the server:
> >
> > nfsd send error 32
> > nfsd send error 32
> > nfsd send error 32
> > nfsd send error 32
> > nfsd send error 32
> > ...
> >
> > And corresponding messages on a client:
> >
> > impossible packet length (8996061) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> > impossible packet length (3123011) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> > impossible packet length (893006905) from nfs server db:/export/data1/c=
aa
> > impossible packet length (842018868) from nfs server db:/export/data1/c=
aa
> > impossible packet length (874220) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> > impossible packet length (14182767) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> > impossible packet length (16777216) from nfs server db:/export/data1/caa
> > impossible packet length (758134573) from nfs server db:/export/data1/c=
aa
> > impossible packet length (1503661568) from nfs server
> > db:/export/data1/caa impossible packet length (1300840) from nfs server
> > db:/export/data1/caa ...
> >
> > And from time to time the files which are written to the server get
> > truncated (regardless of the file size)...
> >
> > Does anybody have an idea how to make it work reliably and not to
> > truncate the files?
>
> mohan committed a fix for one such problem a few days ago.  It will
> not be in 6.1-RELEASE, but you should be able to apply the patch
> yourself.  It would be nice to know how it works for you.
>
> =20
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_socket.c.diff=
?r
>1=3Dtext&tr1=3D1.136&r2=3Dtext&tr2=3D1.139

I have patched nfs_socket.c on all clients and run the same kind of process=
ing=20
which was causing the problem. I can report that the problem is gone with=20
nfs_socket.c rev 1.139. I only got one "nfs send error 35" on one of the=20
clients instead of hundreds of messages I was seeing before. Thank you very=
=20
much!

BTW, what is better/faster TCP or UDP for running NFS between hosts connect=
ed=20
to the same gigabit switch?

=2D-=20
Dr. Yuri Khotyaintsev
Institutet f=C3=B6r rymdfysik (IRF), Uppsala

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Hi all!

What is the DEFAULTS file in /usr/src/sys/<arch>/conf for?

Thanks :)

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Hi all!

What is the DEFAULTS file in /usr/src/sys/<arch>/conf for?

Thanks :)

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On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:58:49PM +0200, Spil Oss wrote:
> l.s.
> 
> After running cvsup to RELENG_6_1, I started `make buildworld
> KERNCONF=BEASTIE61` as per the handbook's '21.4.1 The Canonical Way to
> Update Your System'
> 
> In libexec/mail.local I get the following on stderr
> /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: libldap-2.2.so.7, needed by
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
> /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: liblber-2.2.so.7, needed by
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_get_dn'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_unbind'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_first_entry'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_simple_bind_s'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_set_option'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_memfree'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_init'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_search_ext_s'
> /usr/local/lib/libsasl.so: undefined reference to `ldap_msgfree'
> 
> >From stdout I had
> ===> libexec/mail.local (all)
> cc -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -march=pentium3m
> -I/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I.
> -I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL  -c
> /usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/mail.local/mail.local.c
> cc -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -march=pentium3m
> -I/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I.
> -I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL   -L/usr/local/lib -o mail.local
> mail.local.o /usr/obj/usr/src/libexec/mail.local/../../lib/libsm/libsm.a
> -lsasl
> *** Error code 1

I guess you're trying to use a sendmail compiled with SMTP AUTH support.
I have the same problem here.

Even though libldap-2.2.so.7 and liblber-2.2.so.7 are in /usr/local/lib
and cc has a -L/usr/local/lib flag, ld doesn't find them.

Even putting the libraries in /usr/lib doesn't correct this error.

-- 
Francois Tigeot

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Firstly do you mind NOT posting the same question twice on the same list in 
quick succession?

On Thursday 11 May 2006 12:36, Sergei wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> What is the DEFAULTS file in /usr/src/sys/<arch>/conf for?

In short a semi violation of POLA in favour of reducing traffic on questions@ 
(and other general support avenues). The idea was to stick things in here 
that if removed from your kernel conf things would almost DEFINITELY break 
the build.

so... the configure KERNEL_NAME does whatever you put in there in addition to 
what is in DEFAULTS. See the threads on stable@ for lots of discussions (and 
flames) on this.

>
> Thanks :)
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  Seems to be I have a small problem with kbdmux: it prevents to leds
keyboard status changes indicating. No any NumLock, CapsLock or ScrollLock
with my PS/2 keyboard status changes indicated but keyboard status itself=
=20
changed perfectly, just without leds indication. Removing kbdmux from the
kernel fixes this small issue.

  System in question:
FreeBSD nauman.ecommerce-dev.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #19: Wed May=
 10 23:25:23 EEST 2006   root@nauman.ecommerce-dev.com:/usr/src/sys/amd64/c=
ompile/oleg  amd64

And my PS/2 keyboard (current kernel without kbdmux loaded):

atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]

Looks like i386 (and amd64 in the 32 bit emulation mode) doesn't have that
issue.

I'm ready to provide any additional info about system in question.

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On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:34:39PM +0400, SeSu wrote:
> Hi all!
>=20
> What is the DEFAULTS file in /usr/src/sys/<arch>/conf for?

It contains things which theoreticaly can be changed, but in practice
should not.  It is always part of your kernel config.  For example, no
i386 machines work without a FPU (device npx).

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On May 11, 09:41, David Malone wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 06:31:20PM -0400, J.R. Oldroyd wrote:
> > apm: Other PM system enabled.
> 
> Could you edit /usr/src/sys/i386/bios/apm.c and a go to line
> which says:
> 
> 	printf("apm: Other PM system enabled.\n");
> 
> and replace it with:
> 
> 	printf("apm: Other (%d) PM system enabled.\n", (int)power_pm_get_type());
> 
> and recompile and install your kernels and modules? I suspect that
> it will show 1 for the type, which means that acpi has somehow
> claimed the power management even though it is supposed to be turned
> off.
> 
> 	David.

Well, I added this instrumentation, but at the same time I also
removed "device apm" from the kernel config and added "apm_load="YES""
to loader.conf.local so that I could play with it more easily.
Rebuilt... rebooted...  needless to say, it works now!

apm0: <APM BIOS> on motherboard
apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2

Does loading it as a module change the order in which apm and acpi
are probed?

It looks like I had not edited this kernel config since late 2004,
and had used it, i.e., with "device apm" included, for builds of
several 6.0 and early 6.1 kernels with apm being fine.

In the cvsup I did between 6.1-RC1 and the recent 6.1-STABLE, the
following 149 files had been updated.  Maybe this will help pinpoint
where something was changed...

sys/amd64/amd64/busdma_machdep.c
sys/amd64/amd64/fpu.c
sys/amd64/amd64/identcpu.c
sys/amd64/amd64/initcpu.c
sys/amd64/amd64/mp_machdep.c
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sys/amd64/conf/NOTES
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sys/conf/options
sys/contrib/pf/net/pf_norm.c
sys/dev/acpica/Osd/OsdSchedule.c
sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c
sys/dev/ata/ata-all.h
sys/dev/ata/ata-disk.c
sys/dev/ata/ata-queue.c
sys/dev/ata/ata-raid.c
sys/dev/ata/atapi-cam.c
sys/dev/ata/atapi-cd.c
sys/dev/ata/atapi-fd.c
sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c
sys/dev/bfe/if_bfe.c
sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c
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sys/dev/le/am79900.c
sys/dev/ipw/if_ipw.c
sys/dev/ipw/if_ipwvar.h
sys/fs/fifofs/fifo_vnops.c
sys/geom/gate/g_gate.c
sys/geom/gate/g_gate.h
sys/geom/mirror/g_mirror.c
sys/geom/geom_bsd.c
sys/geom/nop/g_nop.c
sys/geom/raid3/g_raid3.c
sys/geom/stripe/g_stripe.c
sys/geom/stripe/g_stripe.h
sys/geom/shsec/g_shsec.c
sys/geom/shsec/g_shsec.h
sys/geom/eli/g_eli.c
sys/geom/zero/g_zero.c
sys/gnu/fs/ext2fs/ext2_bitops.h
sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
sys/i386/conf/NOTES
sys/i386/i386/busdma_machdep.c
sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c
sys/i386/i386/initcpu.c
sys/i386/i386/machdep.c
sys/i386/i386/mem.c
sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c
sys/i386/include/md_var.h
sys/i386/include/specialreg.h
sys/i386/isa/npx.c
sys/ia64/ia64/nexus.c
sys/kern/kern_event.c
sys/kern/kern_intr.c
sys/kern/kern_synch.c
sys/kern/kern_thread.c
sys/kern/md5c.c
sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c
sys/kern/subr_taskqueue.c
sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c
sys/kern/subr_witness.c
sys/kern/tty_pty.c
sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c
sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c
sys/kern/vfs_subr.c
sys/modules/Makefile
sys/modules/ath/Makefile
sys/modules/smbfs/Makefile
sys/net/if_bridge.c
sys/net/if_media.h
sys/net/if_ppp.c
sys/net/route.h
sys/net/rtsock.c
sys/net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.c
sys/net80211/ieee80211_output.c
sys/netgraph/netflow/netflow.c
sys/netgraph/netflow/netflow.h
sys/netinet6/ip6_mroute.c
sys/netinet6/ipsec.c
sys/netinet6/nd6.c
sys/netipsec/ipsec.h
sys/netipsec/ipsec_mbuf.c
sys/netipsec/xform.h
sys/netipsec/xform_ah.c
sys/netipsec/xform_esp.c
sys/netipsec/xform_ipcomp.c
sys/netipsec/xform_ipip.c
sys/netipx/ipx_ip.c
sys/netsmb/smb_crypt.c
sys/netsmb/smb_smb.c
sys/nfsclient/nfs_bio.c
sys/nfsclient/nfs_socket.c
sys/nfsclient/nfs_vnops.c
sys/nfsserver/nfs_srvsubs.c
sys/nfsserver/nfsrvcache.h
sys/sparc64/include/asi.h
sys/sparc64/sparc64/eeprom.c
sys/sparc64/sparc64/exception.S
sys/sparc64/sparc64/interrupt.S
sys/sparc64/sparc64/machdep.c
sys/sparc64/sparc64/mp_machdep.c
sys/sparc64/sparc64/tick.c
sys/sys/ata.h
sys/sys/interrupt.h
sys/sys/mbuf.h
sys/sys/md5.h
sys/sys/param.h
sys/sys/systm.h
sys/sys/taskqueue.h
sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c
sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_quota.c
sys/ufs/ufs/ufsmount.h
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On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 08:16:42PM +0100, Chris wrote:
> GNATS didnt reply so I will send the info about email address I used
> and see if I can find the pr number as well.

Any problems you have with GNATS not responding, please email them to
bugmaster@FreeBSD.org and we'll try to figure out what's going on.

> I will have to on my 5.4 server's to 5.5 since 5.4 is EOL end of May.

I think we just extended the 5.4 support time to match 5.3.  5.4 is so
superior to 5.3 that we'd really rather people be on it.  OTOH we've
already committed to support 5.3 for N more months and there it is.

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Is it possible to (from the command line) switch virtual consoles while 
within X?

Since I upgraded X on my laptop resume from suspend has been a little flaky. 
  But if I make sure I run 'zzz' from within a text virtual terminal the 
laptop has (so far) always resumed correctly.

I could create ~/bin/zzz which checks to see if I'm in X and refuses to run, 
but it would be even nicer if I could have it automatically switch to a 
virtual console for me, and then run /usr/sbin/zzz.

I'm aware of 'vidcontrol -s <n>', and if I run that from a virtual terminal 
it works.  However, if I run it within X it refuses to work, printing:

     vidcontrol: must be on a virtual console: Inappropriate ioctl for device

Is there a way around this restriction?

N



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On 2006.05.09 01:00:14 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
[...]
> >the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"
>=20
> Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems? Don't=
=20
> tell me these will be shoved under the rug.

Send patches.

--=20
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FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Mon May  8 08:07:42 EEST 2006

-- cut here --
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:165
No locals.
#1  0xc05790a4 in boot (howto=3D260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:402
        first_buf_printf =3D 1
#2  0xc05796b9 in panic (fmt=3D0xc072598e "%s") at
../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:558
        bootopt =3D 260
        newpanic =3D 0
        buf =3D "page fault", '\0' <repeats 245 times>
#3  0xc06fe7da in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xe6a146fc, eva=3D28) at
../../../i386/i386/trap.c:836
        code =3D 40
        type =3D 12
        ss =3D 40
        esp =3D 0
        softseg =3D {ssd_base =3D 0, ssd_limit =3D 1048575, ssd_type =3D 27=
,
ssd_dpl =3D 0, ssd_p =3D 1, ssd_xx =3D 0, ssd_xx1 =3D 0,
  ssd_def32 =3D 1, ssd_gran =3D 1}
        msg =3D 0x0
#4  0xc06fea6a in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xe6a146fc, usermode=3D0, eva=3D28)
at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:744
        va =3D 0
        vm =3D (struct vmspace *) 0x0
        map =3D 0xc078e820
        rv =3D 1
        ftype =3D 1 '\001'
        p =3D (struct proc *) 0x0
#5  0xc06fee9d in trap (frame=3D
      {tf_fs =3D -894238712, tf_es =3D -631767000, tf_ds =3D -632618968,
tf_edi =3D 0, tf_esi =3D -632586744, tf_ebp =3D -425638048, tf_isp
=3D -425638104, tf_ebx =3D 120, tf_edx =3D -968598912, tf_ecx =3D 71721784,
tf_eax =3D 4, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 2, tf_eip =3D -1067665410
, tf_cs =3D 32, tf_eflags =3D 66050, tf_esp =3D -894216688, tf_ss =3D
-425638048}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:434
        p =3D (struct proc *) 0xc7a8ac48
        sticks =3D 1
        i =3D 0
        ucode =3D 0
        type =3D 12
        code =3D 2
        eva =3D 28
#6  0xc06ecf2a in calltrap () at ../../../i386/i386/exception.s:139
No locals.
#7  0xc05cb7fe in vfs_setdirty (bp=3D0xda4b7e08) at atomic.h:146
        i =3D 120
        object =3D 0x0
#8  0xc05d019b in bdwrite (bp=3D0xda4b7e08) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:955
        vp =3D (struct vnode *) 0xcab35550
        nbp =3D (struct buf *) 0x78
        bo =3D (struct bufobj *) 0xcab35610
#9  0xc0691a0c in ffs_write (ap=3D0xe6a1495c) at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops=
.c:722
        vp =3D (struct vnode *) 0xcab35550
        uio =3D (struct uio *) 0xe6a1497c
        ip =3D (struct inode *) 0xcad3dbdc
        fs =3D (struct fs *) 0xc7b86000
        bp =3D (struct buf *) 0xda4b7e08
        td =3D (struct thread *) 0x0
        lbn =3D 120
        osize =3D 7402056
        seqcount =3D 127
        blkoffset =3D 0
        error =3D 0
        flags =3D 2130771968
        ioflag =3D 8323104
        resid =3D 20480
        size =3D 4
        xfersize =3D 4096
#10 0xc07099c9 in VOP_WRITE_APV (vop=3D0xc0776f60, a=3D0xe6a1495c) at vnode=
_if.c:698
        rc =3D -1065914528
        va =3D {va_type =3D 582, va_mode =3D 48536, va_nlink =3D -15867,
va_uid =3D 3869329612, va_gid =3D 3228278790,
  va_fsid =3D 3255156120, va_fileid =3D -425637708, va_size =3D
13864983694757939440, va_blocksize =3D -457615776, va_atime =3D {
    tv_sec =3D -1039811176, tv_nsec =3D -1040198032}, va_mtime =3D {tv_sec =
=3D
-1050462640, tv_nsec =3D -968598912}, va_ctime =3D {
    tv_sec =3D 49353, tv_nsec =3D 0}, va_birthtime =3D {tv_sec =3D
-1056643520, tv_nsec =3D 0}, va_gen =3D 3400750416, va_flags =3D 16,
  va_rdev =3D 16, va_bytes =3D 13865489573185931644, va_filerev =3D
14606111821807447904, va_vaflags =3D 3400750416, va_spare =3D 9}
        osize =3D 0
        ooffset =3D 0
        noffset =3D -968598912
#11 0xc06c1d4d in vnode_pager_generic_putpages (vp=3D0xcab35550,
m=3D0xe6a14a90, bytecount=3D4, flags=3D8, rtvals=3D0xe6a14a40)
    at vnode_if.h:372
        i =3D 4
        object =3D 0xcd781ce4
        count =3D 5
        maxsize =3D 20480
        ncount =3D 5
        poffset =3D 1949696
        auio =3D {uio_iov =3D 0xe6a14954, uio_iovcnt =3D 1, uio_offset =3D
1970176, uio_resid =3D 0, uio_segflg =3D UIO_NOCOPY,
  uio_rw =3D UIO_WRITE, uio_td =3D 0x0}
        aiov =3D {iov_base =3D 0x5000, iov_len =3D 0}
        ioflags =3D 71721784
        ppscheck =3D 0
        lastfail =3D {tv_sec =3D 0, tv_usec =3D 0}
        curfail =3D 0
#12 0xc05d58fa in vop_stdputpages (ap=3D0xc6445a80) at
../../../kern/vfs_default.c:486
No locals.
#13 0xc0709348 in VOP_PUTPAGES_APV (vop=3D0x4, a=3D0x4466338) at vnode_if.c=
:2164
        rc =3D 4
#14 0xc06c1b97 in vnode_pager_putpages (object=3D0xcd781ce4, m=3D0x4,
count=3D20480, sync=3D8, rtvals=3D0x4) at vnode_if.h:1119
        vp =3D (struct vnode *) 0xcab35550
#15 0xc06bb67b in vm_pageout_flush (mc=3D0xe6a14a90, count=3D5, flags=3D8)
at vm_pager.h:147
        object =3D 0xcd781ce4
        pageout_status =3D {5, 5}
        numpagedout =3D 0
        i =3D 4
#16 0xc06b5d0c in vm_object_page_collect_flush (object=3D0xcd781ce4,
p=3D0xc30d9e30, curgeneration=3D0, pagerflags=3D8)
    at ../../../vm/vm_object.c:950
        tp =3D 0x5
        runlen =3D 5
        maxf =3D 4
        chkb =3D 12
        maxb =3D 0
        i =3D 0
        pi =3D 476
        maf =3D {0xc11bd778, 0xc119b2c0}
        mab =3D {0x0, 0xe6a14b2c}
        ma =3D {0xc30d9e30, 0xc11bd778}
#17 0xc06b60d9 in vm_object_page_clean (object=3D0xcd781ce4, start=3D0,
end=3DUnhandled dwarf expression opcode 0x93
) at ../../../vm/vm_object.c:834
        n =3D 4
        p =3D 0xc30d9e30
        np =3D 0xc11bd778
        tend =3D 1808
        pi =3D Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0x93
(kgdb)

--=20
If it's there, and you can see it, it's real.
If it's not there, and you can see it, it's virtual.
If it's there, and you can't see it, it's transparent.
If it's not there, and you can't see it, you erased it.

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In the last episode (May 11), Nik Clayton said:
> Is it possible to (from the command line) switch virtual consoles while 
> within X?
> 
> Since I upgraded X on my laptop resume from suspend has been a little 
> flaky. But if I make sure I run 'zzz' from within a text virtual terminal 
>  the laptop has (so far) always resumed correctly.
> 
> I could create ~/bin/zzz which checks to see if I'm in X and refuses to 
> run, but it would be even nicer if I could have it automatically switch to 
> a virtual console for me, and then run /usr/sbin/zzz.
> 
> I'm aware of 'vidcontrol -s <n>', and if I run that from a virtual terminal 
> it works.  However, if I run it within X it refuses to work, printing:
> 
>     vidcontrol: must be on a virtual console: Inappropriate ioctl for device
> 
> Is there a way around this restriction?

Redirect stdin from a vty:

vidcontrol -s 1 < /dev/ttyv0

If you're not root you'll either need to specify a vty you are logged
in on, or wrap it in a sudo call.

-- 
	Dan Nelson
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I've encountered a problem while trying to upgrade from 5.4-p8 to 6.1.
My machine is placed in data-center, so I only have access to vnc-based
KVM to grab the console. With 5.4 I have no problem, but when I try to
boot 6.1 kernel it simply shows no information about loading process and
I have no way to single boot. It seems that something in vidconsole
prevents interaction with user at boot process. After entering
multi-user console again works fine. I have no idea what to do. Any
information concerning machine and KVM I use will be provided.

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Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
> On 2006.05.09 01:00:14 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
>   
>> Julian Elischer wrote:
>>     
> [...]
>   
>>> the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"
>>>       
>> Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems? Don't 
>> tell me these will be shoved under the rug.
>>     
>
> Send patches.
>   

Patches? For what? It's too late now, 6.1 has been released. I sent 
reminders to the RE team and i made it quite clear on the lists that the 
quota issue should be described in the relnotes/errata before the 
release. If the RE team chooses to ignore major bugs and pretend all is 
fine and dandy, then there is not much patches will do. Heck, im still 
waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems, as he so graciously 
offered, but couldn't deliver. I offered to work with him and provide 
help, he never replied to my emails.



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Subject: improper handling of dlpened's C++/atexit() code?
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 I am writing in regard to PR at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dbin%2F59552 .  I am experienci=
ng
behavior on 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #11: Sun Mar 26 00:03:52
EST 2006 which looks a lot like something that would be caused by this PR.
This happens when apache-1.3 processes that run with Mason code receive a
SIGUSR1 (when newsyslog does log rotation) and apache gracefully kills off
all processes when restarting.  The following is the stack trace that lead
me to this PR:

> #0  0x00000000 in ?? ()
> #1  0x2949dad8 in ?? ()
> #2  0x294a02c4 in ?? ()
> #3  0x281ca708 in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
> #4  0xbfbfe708 in ?? ()
> #5  0x28196556 in endhostent () from /lib/libc.so.6
> #6  0x2949ed4c in ?? ()
> #7  0x280a9980 in ?? () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1
> #8  0x280a9878 in ?? () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1
> #9  0xbfbfe718 in ?? ()
> #10 0x2808d5ef in find_symdef () from /libexec/ld- elf.so.1
> #11 0x2808da7c in find_symdef () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1
> #12 0x281ba09a in __cxa_finalize () from /lib/libc.so.6
> #13 0x281b9d9a in exit () from /lib/libc.so.6
> #14 0x0805cd5b in clean_child_exit (code=3D692716228) at http_main.c:522
> #15 0x0805e707 in just_die (sig=3D30) at http_main.c:3202
> #16 0x0805e72a in usr1_handler (sig=3D692716228) at http_main.c:3212
> #17 0xbfbfffb4 in ?? ()
> #18 0x0000001e in ?? ()
> #19 0x00000000 in ?? ()
> #20 0xbfbfe7e0 in ?? ()
> #21 0x00000002 in ?? ()
> #22 0x0805e710 in just_die () at http_main.c:3202
> #23 0x0805fdae in child_main (child_num_arg=3D692716228) at http_main.c:4=
571
> #24 0x0806046e in make_child (s=3D0x294a02c4, slot=3D0, now=3D0) at
> http_main.c:5051
> #25 0x080604f8 in startup_children (number_to_start=3D5) at http_main.c:5=
078
> #26 0x08060b11 in standalone_main (argc=3D2, argv=3D0xbfbfeca0) at
> http_main.c:5410
> #27 0x08061392 in main (argc=3D2, argv=3D0xbfbfeca0) at http_main.c:5767

Please let me know if you have any thoughts on the subject or if this is
completely unrelated problem.  Thanks!

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On 5/11/06, m m <needacoder@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I am writing in regard to PR at
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dbin%2F59552 .  I am experien=
cing
> behavior on 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #11: Sun Mar 26 00:03:5=
2
> EST 2006 which looks a lot like something that would be caused by this PR=
.
> This happens when apache-1.3 processes that run with Mason code receive a
> SIGUSR1 (when newsyslog does log rotation) and apache gracefully kills of=
f
> all processes when restarting.  The following is the stack trace that lea=
d
> me to this PR:
>

Are you able to reproduce this panic on 6.1-RELEASE?

-pete

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m m wrote:
> I am writing in regard to PR at
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin%2F59552 .  I am 
> experiencing
> behavior on 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #11: Sun Mar 26 
> 00:03:52
> EST 2006 which looks a lot like something that would be caused by this 
> PR.
> This happens when apache-1.3 processes that run with Mason code receive a
> SIGUSR1 (when newsyslog does log rotation) and apache gracefully kills 
> off
> all processes when restarting.
Would this explain the following segfaults on 6.1-stable?

/var/log/messages.0.bz2:Apr 26 00:00:04 mail kernel: pid 87211 (httpd), 
uid 80: exited on signal 6
/var/log/messages.0.bz2:Apr 26 00:00:04 mail kernel: pid 87208 (httpd), 
uid 80: exited on signal 6
/var/log/messages.0.bz2:Apr 26 00:00:04 mail kernel: pid 87210 (httpd), 
uid 80: exited on signal 6
/var/log/messages.0.bz2:Apr 26 00:00:04 mail kernel: pid 87209 (httpd), 
uid 80: exited on signal 6

-- 
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Security Architect
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On 2006.05.11 20:53:42 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
> >On 2006.05.09 01:00:14 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> > =20
> >>Julian Elischer wrote:
> >>   =20
> >[...]
> > =20
> >>>the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"
> >>>     =20
> >>Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems? Don'=
t=20
> >>tell me these will be shoved under the rug.
> >>   =20
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> >Send patches.
> > =20
>=20
> Patches? For what? [...]

For the errata page, which was what the above text mentioned.

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Mike Jakubik wrote:

> Patches? For what? It's too late now, 6.1 has been released. I sent 
> reminders to the RE team and i made it quite clear on the lists that the 
> quota issue should be described in the relnotes/errata before the 
> release. If the RE team chooses to ignore major bugs and pretend all is 
> fine and dandy, then there is not much patches will do. Heck, im still 
> waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems, as he so graciously 
> offered, but couldn't deliver. I offered to work with him and provide 
> help, he never replied to my emails.

I'm almost afraid to enter into this discussion (puts on flame suit), 
but might it be better to gently encourage the re/development team to 
make some of these a priority for 6.2? (as that gives everyone more lead 
time, and in the end what we all want is FreeBSD to steadily improve).

Cheers

Mark

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On 05/11/06 20:53, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
>> On 2006.05.09 01:00:14 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
>>> Julian Elischer wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"
>>>>
>>> Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems?
>>> Don't tell me these will be shoved under the rug.
>>
>> Send patches.
>
> Patches? For what? It's too late now, 6.1 has been released. I sent
> reminders to the RE team and i made it quite clear on the lists that th=
e
> quota issue should be described in the relnotes/errata before the
> release. If the RE team chooses to ignore major bugs and pretend all is=

> fine and dandy, then there is not much patches will do. Heck, im still
> waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems, as he so graciously
> offered, but couldn't deliver. I offered to work with him and provide
> help, he never replied to my emails.

The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.

So, you're still waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems and he
couldn't deliver?  Huh?  I quote you
(http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-May/025209.html):=

"Scott, thanks for the very generous gesture, but i cant ask you
something like this."

-Jonathan

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Jonathan Noack wrote:
> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.
>
>   

How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release 
notes, not some on line version.

> So, you're still waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems and he
> couldn't deliver?  Huh?  I quote you
> (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-May/025209.html):
> "Scott, thanks for the very generous gesture, but i cant ask you
> something like this."
>   

He emailed me personally, i accepted his help offer, never heard from 
him since.


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On 5/11/06, Michael Butler <imb@protected-networks.net> wrote:
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> /var/log/messages.0.bz2:Apr 26 00:00:04 mail kernel: pid 87211 (httpd),
> uid 80: exited on signal 6
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That is the exact message that lead us to investigate this problem.  I
am rebuilding 6.1-stable, but I guess this is sufficient confirmation
that "yes, it still happens with 6.1-release and on..."

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Mike Jakubik wrote:

> Jonathan Noack wrote:
> 
>> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
>> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
>> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
>> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
>> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.
>>
>>   
> 
> 
> How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release 
> notes, not some on line version.
> 
>> So, you're still waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems and he
>> couldn't deliver?  Huh?  I quote you
>> (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-May/025209.html):
>> "Scott, thanks for the very generous gesture, but i cant ask you
>> something like this."
>>   
> 
> 
> He emailed me personally, i accepted his help offer, never heard from 
> him since.
> 

Sorry, things got lost in the shuffle to get this released.  For your
specific snapshot deadlocks, please test the changes that have gone into
7-CURRENT and report back if they fix your problem.  Only with active 
testing will we know if they are good to be backported in time for 6.2.

Scott


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Mike Jakubik wrote:
> Jonathan Noack wrote:
>> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
>> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
>> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
>> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
>> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update 
>> it.   
> How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release 
> notes, not some on line version.
*Plonk*

You've just entered into my "do not read" bucket.  If you can't see
that errors occur, then I pity _anyone_ who codes for you...  Or
perhaps you never make a mistake.  That must be it.

John

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J. T. farmer wrote:

> Mike Jakubik wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Noack wrote:
>>
>>> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
>>> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
>>> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
>>> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date 
>>> version of
>>> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update 
>>> it.   
>>
>> How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release 
>> notes, not some on line version.
>
> *Plonk*
>
> You've just entered into my "do not read" bucket.  If you can't see
> that errors occur, then I pity _anyone_ who codes for you...  Or
> perhaps you never make a mistake.  That must be it.


While I tend to agree with regards to poor attitude (see similar threads 
in almost any open source forum on the topic of "demanding" anything 
from a volunteer project), Mike is obviously quite passionate about and 
has the interests of FreeBSD at heart, and for that I cannot blame him 
at all. He seems to have a disagreement with handling of the release 
process, which is the same recurring issue every time there is a release 
and probably the #1 cause of burnout with the Release Engineer of the day.

Historically, you can see that the current process works though, even if 
it may not produce the 100% perfect -RELEASE it at least guards against 
more serious problems that have happened in the past that were 
introduced by last minute and untested changes.


Regards,
David


PS: cc -hackers removed

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On Wed 2006-05-10 (11:29), Jonathan Noack wrote:
> You are probably experiencing some of the VFS limitations in 5.3 (you'll
> be pleasantly surprised by 6.1!).  "portsdb -Uu" is very CPU and IO
> intensive; it takes a long time on a fast machine.  "make fetchindex" is
> provided as a replacement for having to run "portsdb -Uu".  The only
> downside is that the downloaded INDEX-5.db may be a few hours out of date.

it looks like 'make fetchindex' only gets INDEX-5.bz2, then unzips it,
then i need to make a INDEX-5.db. anyway, 'portsdb -Uu' may be
CPU/IO intensive, but that alone shouldn't be powering down the machine?

> > but, if i just run portversion, it creates the INDEX-5.db,
> > so i'm not sure why i'm running 'portsdb -Uu' in the first
> > place?
> 
> I would highly recommend checking out portsnap; it builds an up-to-date
> INDEX-5.db file automatically as part of the update process.

so what is 'portversion' building, that is different to what 'portsdb -Uu'
would do? thanx re portsnap, will have a look but can't at the moment.

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Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com> writes:

> Jonathan Noack wrote:
>> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
>> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
>> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
>> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
>> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.
>>
>>
>
> How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release
> notes, not some on line version.

You lost connection to the ground, Mike. Come back please :-)

People make mistakes, and that applies to both the code as to the
documentation, and users will know that sometimes problems will be found
only after the release so they'll check online later when running into a
problem.  The 6.1 release announcement already mentioned the errata
lapsus BTW and asked people to check on-line, so it appears someone's
asking for perfection -- but it was decided months ago to stick to a
schedule rather than making perfect releases.

Having said that, 6.1 is a real and visible improvement over 6.0 for me.
6.1 is usable, where 6.0 toppled over every few minutes (I'm talking
about ral(4) and other nasty stuff such as tmpfs/mdmfs panics in 6.0 -
ral(4) is what prompted me to do the 5.4->6.0 upgrade).

-- 
Matthias Andree

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Hey lists,

Two or three days before the CVS tree has been tagged for FreeBSD
6.1-RELEASE, I've committed a broken version of the jail rc.d script.

The symptoms are:

- an ifconfig error message if you don't define a jail_interface and
have at least one jail configured, this one is harmless.
- a problem with one of the following variable: jail_exec,
jail_exec_start, jail_exec_stop, jail_flags and especially jail_fstab;
if you have at least two jails configured.

I committed yesterday a fix that should supposedly fix both of these
issues so I'd need all jail users running either FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE or
6-STABLE (older than two days) to try the new script [1] and report the
result, either successful or not. Once I'll get enough successful
reports, I'll contact the Release Engineering team to make sure the
patch makes it to the RELENG_6_1 branch.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Note: Keep me CC'ed as I'm not (yet) subscribed to these lists.

[1] http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/etc/rc.d/jail?rev=3D1.32

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On 12/05/2006 11:21, Florent Thoumie wrote:
> Hey lists,
>=20
> Two or three days before the CVS tree has been tagged for FreeBSD
> 6.1-RELEASE, I've committed a broken version of the jail rc.d script.
>=20
> The symptoms are:
>=20
> - an ifconfig error message if you don't define a jail_interface and
> have at least one jail configured, this one is harmless.
> - a problem with one of the following variable: jail_exec,
> jail_exec_start, jail_exec_stop, jail_flags and especially jail_fstab;
> if you have at least two jails configured.
>=20
> I committed yesterday a fix that should supposedly fix both of these
> issues so I'd need all jail users running either FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE or=

> 6-STABLE (older than two days) to try the new script [1] and report the=

> result, either successful or not. Once I'll get enough successful
> reports, I'll contact the Release Engineering team to make sure the
> patch makes it to the RELENG_6_1 branch.
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> Note: Keep me CC'ed as I'm not (yet) subscribed to these lists.
>
> [1] http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/etc/rc.d/jail?rev=3D1.32

Success on 6.1-RELEASE. I've got 2 jails and was hit by the first
issue (ifconfig one).

With rc.d/jail rev=3D1.32 all works fine (rc.conf jails setup below).
Let me know if you need more informations.

Thanks!

Karol


/etc/rc.conf:

ifconfig_rl2_alias1=3D"inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff"
ifconfig_rl2_alias2=3D"inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffffff"
jail_enable=3D"YES"
jail_set_hostname_allow=3D"NO"
jail_list=3D"apache ssh"
jail_apache_rootdir=3D"/data/jails/10.0.0.1"
jail_apache_hostname=3D"www.my.server"
jail_apache_ip=3D"10.0.0.1"
jail_apache_exec=3D"/bin/sh /etc/rc"
jail_apache_devfs_enable=3D"YES"
jail_apache_fdescfs_enable=3D"NO"
jail_apache_procfs_enable=3D"NO"
jail_ssh_rootdir=3D"/data/jails/10.0.0.2"
jail_ssh_hostname=3D"ssh.my.server"
jail_ssh_ip=3D"10.0.0.2"
jail_ssh_exec=3D"/bin/sh /etc/rc"
jail_ssh_devfs_enable=3D"YES"
jail_ssh_fdescfs_enable=3D"NO"
jail_ssh_procfs_enable=3D"NO"


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On 05/12/06 03:20, gareth wrote:
> On Wed 2006-05-10 (11:29), Jonathan Noack wrote:
>> You are probably experiencing some of the VFS limitations in 5.3 (you'=
ll
>> be pleasantly surprised by 6.1!).  "portsdb -Uu" is very CPU and IO
>> intensive; it takes a long time on a fast machine.  "make fetchindex" =
is
>> provided as a replacement for having to run "portsdb -Uu".  The only
>> downside is that the downloaded INDEX-5.db may be a few hours out of d=
ate.
>=20
> it looks like 'make fetchindex' only gets INDEX-5.bz2, then unzips it,
> then i need to make a INDEX-5.db. anyway, 'portsdb -Uu' may be
> CPU/IO intensive, but that alone shouldn't be powering down the machine=
?

Ah, I made a mistake in my explanation.  Replace INDEX-5.db with
INDEX-5.  Sorry for the confusion...

"make fetchindex" downloads the INDEX-x file (where 'x' is the major
release number of the version of FreeBSD you are using -- in this case
'5').  When this file is newer than INDEX-x.db, the portupgrade tools
will automatically build an updated version of INDEX-x.db.  As such, it
is not necessary to do anything further than "make fetchindex".
Building INDEX-x takes forever (and may be overheating your machine
causing freezes/reboots), but building INDEX-x.db is quite fast.

If you want to make sure everything is updated with a single command,
replace the '-U' with '-F' for "portsdb -Fu" (hehe -- I love it when
arguments work out like that...).  That will 1) download the INDEX-x
file instead of building it from scratch, and then 2) build an updated
INDEX-x.db.

Here's how long it takes on my 6.1-RELEASE server (dual Pentium3):
$ time portsdb -Fu
Fetching the ports index ... done
[Updating the portsdb <format:bdb_btree> in /usr/build ... - 14630 port
entries found
=2E........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000......=
=2E..6000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11=
000.........12000.........13000.........14000......
=2E.... done]

real    0m17.378s
user    0m14.691s
sys     0m1.936s
$

>>> but, if i just run portversion, it creates the INDEX-5.db,
>>> so i'm not sure why i'm running 'portsdb -Uu' in the first
>>> place?
>> I would highly recommend checking out portsnap; it builds an up-to-dat=
e
>> INDEX-5.db file automatically as part of the update process.
>=20
> so what is 'portversion' building, that is different to what 'portsdb -=
Uu'
> would do? thanx re portsnap, will have a look but can't at the moment.

Correction: portsnap automatically builds an up-to-date INDEX-x, not
INDEX-5.db.  "portversion" is building the INDEX-x.db file from INDEX-x.

See the portsdb(1) man page for more info.

-Jonathan

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On Fri 2006-05-12 (07:31), Jonathan Noack wrote:
> Ah, I made a mistake in my explanation.  Replace INDEX-5.db with
> INDEX-5.  Sorry for the confusion...
> 
> "make fetchindex" downloads the INDEX-x file (where 'x' is the major
> release number of the version of FreeBSD you are using -- in this case
> '5').  When this file is newer than INDEX-x.db, the portupgrade tools
> will automatically build an updated version of INDEX-x.db.  As such, it
> is not necessary to do anything further than "make fetchindex".
> Building INDEX-x takes forever (and may be overheating your machine
> causing freezes/reboots), but building INDEX-x.db is quite fast.
> 
> If you want to make sure everything is updated with a single command,
> replace the '-U' with '-F' for "portsdb -Fu" (hehe -- I love it when
> arguments work out like that...).  That will 1) download the INDEX-x
> file instead of building it from scratch, and then 2) build an updated
> INDEX-x.db.
> 
> Correction: portsnap automatically builds an up-to-date INDEX-x, not
> INDEX-5.db.  "portversion" is building the INDEX-x.db file from INDEX-x.

ah ok, thanx that's much clearer now.

so for interest's sake:

'portsdb -F' is the same as 'make fetchindex', and
'portsdb -u' is the same as the first part of 'portversion'

right?

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On 05/12/06 07:56, gareth wrote:
> On Fri 2006-05-12 (07:31), Jonathan Noack wrote:
>> Ah, I made a mistake in my explanation.  Replace INDEX-5.db with
>> INDEX-5.  Sorry for the confusion...
>>
>> "make fetchindex" downloads the INDEX-x file (where 'x' is the major
>> release number of the version of FreeBSD you are using -- in this case=

>> '5').  When this file is newer than INDEX-x.db, the portupgrade tools
>> will automatically build an updated version of INDEX-x.db.  As such, i=
t
>> is not necessary to do anything further than "make fetchindex".
>> Building INDEX-x takes forever (and may be overheating your machine
>> causing freezes/reboots), but building INDEX-x.db is quite fast.
>>
>> If you want to make sure everything is updated with a single command,
>> replace the '-U' with '-F' for "portsdb -Fu" (hehe -- I love it when
>> arguments work out like that...).  That will 1) download the INDEX-x
>> file instead of building it from scratch, and then 2) build an updated=

>> INDEX-x.db.
>>
>> Correction: portsnap automatically builds an up-to-date INDEX-x, not
>> INDEX-5.db.  "portversion" is building the INDEX-x.db file from INDEX-=
x.
>=20
> ah ok, thanx that's much clearer now.
>=20
> so for interest's sake:
>=20
> 'portsdb -F' is the same as 'make fetchindex', and

Yes.

> 'portsdb -u' is the same as the first part of 'portversion'

Yes, but using '-u' is not necessary.  From the portsdb(1) man page
description of the '-u' option:
"Note: the ports database file is automatically updated if it is not
up-to-date when looked up, so manual updating is not mandatory."

I use '-u' only when I share /usr/ports between machines via NFS.
Because I don't want them fighting over updating the INDEX-x.db file, I
run "portsdb -Fu" when I update /usr/ports so that all machines have a
fresh version.

-Jonathan

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On 12/05/06, Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> wrote:
> Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com> writes:
>
> > Jonathan Noack wrote:
> >> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
> >> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
> >> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'es=
t
> >> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version =
of
> >> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it=
.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release
> > notes, not some on line version.
>
> You lost connection to the ground, Mike. Come back please :-)
>
> People make mistakes, and that applies to both the code as to the
> documentation, and users will know that sometimes problems will be found
> only after the release so they'll check online later when running into a
> problem.  The 6.1 release announcement already mentioned the errata
> lapsus BTW and asked people to check on-line, so it appears someone's
> asking for perfection -- but it was decided months ago to stick to a
> schedule rather than making perfect releases.
>
> Having said that, 6.1 is a real and visible improvement over 6.0 for me.
> 6.1 is usable, where 6.0 toppled over every few minutes (I'm talking
> about ral(4) and other nasty stuff such as tmpfs/mdmfs panics in 6.0 -
> ral(4) is what prompted me to do the 5.4->6.0 upgrade).
>
> --
> Matthias Andree

agreed whilst 6.1 isnt bug free lets not forget its a massive
improvement over 6.0 in terms of stability, I still havent seen a
lockup/crash on any of my 6.1 servers and they are all prerelease.

It did shock me tho they didnt simply repackage the 6.1 release with
updated errata notes it will look amatuerish to have outdated notes in
the package.

Chris

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On 11/05/06, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 08:16:42PM +0100, Chris wrote:
> > GNATS didnt reply so I will send the info about email address I used
> > and see if I can find the pr number as well.
>
> Any problems you have with GNATS not responding, please email them to
> bugmaster@FreeBSD.org and we'll try to figure out what's going on.
>
> > I will have to on my 5.4 server's to 5.5 since 5.4 is EOL end of May.
>
> I think we just extended the 5.4 support time to match 5.3.  5.4 is so
> superior to 5.3 that we'd really rather people be on it.  OTOH we've
> already committed to support 5.3 for N more months and there it is.
>
> mcl
>

ahh thats cool, good stuff :)

Chris

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Chris wrote:

> On 12/05/06, Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
>> Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com> writes:
>>
>> > Jonathan Noack wrote:
>> >> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
>> >> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
>> >> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  
>> C'est
>> >> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date 
>> version of
>> >> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update 
>> it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release
>> > notes, not some on line version.
>>
>> You lost connection to the ground, Mike. Come back please :-)
>>
>> People make mistakes, and that applies to both the code as to the
>> documentation, and users will know that sometimes problems will be found
>> only after the release so they'll check online later when running into a
>> problem.  The 6.1 release announcement already mentioned the errata
>> lapsus BTW and asked people to check on-line, so it appears someone's
>> asking for perfection -- but it was decided months ago to stick to a
>> schedule rather than making perfect releases.
>>
>> Having said that, 6.1 is a real and visible improvement over 6.0 for me.
>> 6.1 is usable, where 6.0 toppled over every few minutes (I'm talking
>> about ral(4) and other nasty stuff such as tmpfs/mdmfs panics in 6.0 -
>> ral(4) is what prompted me to do the 5.4->6.0 upgrade).
>>
>> -- 
>> Matthias Andree
> 
> 
> agreed whilst 6.1 isnt bug free lets not forget its a massive
> improvement over 6.0 in terms of stability, I still havent seen a
> lockup/crash on any of my 6.1 servers and they are all prerelease.
> 
> It did shock me tho they didnt simply repackage the 6.1 release with
> updated errata notes it will look amatuerish to have outdated notes in
> the package.
> 
> Chris

We didn't discover it until the last minute, and repackaging takes 3
days.

Scott



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Scott Long wrote:
> Sorry, things got lost in the shuffle to get this released.  For your
> specific snapshot deadlocks, please test the changes that have gone into
> 7-CURRENT and report back if they fix your problem.  Only with active 
> testing will we know if they are good to be backported in time for 6.2.

I'll install -CURRENT on a test box and give it a whirl, will report 
back soon.


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On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:21:41AM +0100, Florent Thoumie wrote:
> Hey lists,
> 
> Two or three days before the CVS tree has been tagged for FreeBSD
> 6.1-RELEASE, I've committed a broken version of the jail rc.d script.
> 
> The symptoms are:
> 
> - an ifconfig error message if you don't define a jail_interface and
> have at least one jail configured, this one is harmless.
> - a problem with one of the following variable: jail_exec,
> jail_exec_start, jail_exec_stop, jail_flags and especially jail_fstab;
> if you have at least two jails configured.
> 
> I committed yesterday a fix that should supposedly fix both of these
> issues so I'd need all jail users running either FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE or
> 6-STABLE (older than two days) to try the new script [1] and report the
> result, either successful or not. Once I'll get enough successful
> reports, I'll contact the Release Engineering team to make sure the
> patch makes it to the RELENG_6_1 branch.

I hit both the ifconfig issue and an issue where rc.d/jail would not
start all of my defined jails.  Both issues appear to be fixed with the
latest version of jail from CVS.  

Thanks!
Dan

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> Hey lists,
>
> Two or three days before the CVS tree has been tagged for FreeBSD
> 6.1-RELEASE, I've committed a broken version of the jail rc.d script.
>
> The symptoms are:
>
> - an ifconfig error message if you don't define a jail_interface and
> have at least one jail configured, this one is harmless.
> - a problem with one of the following variable: jail_exec,
> jail_exec_start, jail_exec_stop, jail_flags and especially jail_fstab;
> if you have at least two jails configured.
>
> I committed yesterday a fix that should supposedly fix both of these
> issues so I'd need all jail users running either FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE or
> 6-STABLE (older than two days) to try the new script [1] and report the
> result, either successful or not. Once I'll get enough successful
> reports, I'll contact the Release Engineering team to make sure the
> patch makes it to the RELENG_6_1 branch.
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> Note: Keep me CC'ed as I'm not (yet) subscribed to these lists.
>
> [1] http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/etc/rc.d/jail?rev=3D1.32

Appears to be working fine on releng_6 from last night - Thank you very muc=
h!

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Hello!

I've bought a Promise FastTrak TX4310 because I thought that it will be supported by FreeBSD's ata/ar driver...:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ata&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.0-stable&format=html

I've updated the controller's BIOS to the newest available v2.5.1.3116:
http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productID=165&category=all&os=100

And there are two Seagate ST3300622AS connected to the controller with RAID0.

But if I boot from a 6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc then I only get an ad6 and an ad10 device and no arX device... :-(((
So I can't use them in RAID0 mode...

Can anyone of you help me?

Best regards,
Lukas


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How do I rebuild the builtin openssl with debugging symbols? I thought I could simply edit /usr/src/crypto/openssl/Makefile and then run make from the same directory, but that doesn't seem to work. Is there some way to do this w/o rebuilding world?

Using the port isn't an option since I need to test against the version in the src tree.

Thanks

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In the last episode (May 12), Brandon Fosdick said:
> How do I rebuild the builtin openssl with debugging symbols? I
> thought I could simply edit /usr/src/crypto/openssl/Makefile and then
> run make from the same directory, but that doesn't seem to work. Is
> there some way to do this w/o rebuilding world?

/usr/src/crypto is like /usr/src/contrib ; just a repository for
3rd-party sources.  You'll want to go to /usr/src/secure to build the
openssl libs and binaries.
 
> Using the port isn't an option since I need to test against the
> version in the src tree.

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Hello!

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>>> makeoptions	CONF_CFLAGS=-fno-builtin
> I don't know, it needs to be tested in your particular case.

  I've built another kernel, adding back

makeoptions  CONF_CFLAGS=-fno-builtin
options      QUOTA

Results are almost the same as w/o these 2 options. So the following overhead 
difference:

>>>>                 %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
>>>> RELENG_6 + rl0      45      40     15
>>>> RELENG_6 + fxp0     45      35     20
>
>>                   %Sys   %Intr   %Idl  "time md5 -t" wall clock time
>> RELENG_6 + rl0      34      24     42   1:43
>> RELENG_6 + fxp0     30      20     50   1:40

is caused by just these:

options 	INVARIANTS
options 	INVARIANT_SUPPORT

>> (I'll try to find out which one of these takes which % of overhead when I
>> get free time), but still much worse then under RELENG_4, where this
>> particular (I'd say "quote common") usage pattern takes 24-28% of CPU time,
>> while under RELENG_5 / 6 it takes >= 50% ;(
>
> Thanks.  Silly question: the data transfer rate is the same on both
> 4.x and 6.x, right?  i.e. the data transfer itself takes the same
> time?

  Yes. I'm transferring a large file (ISO image) from another (much faster,
lightly loaded) machine over 10Mbit/s Ethernet link, so the transfer itself
is limited only by the wire speed (actual transfer rate is very close to 1000
KBytes/sec according to ftp client and 'systat -vm 1' disk transfer rate in 
every measurement).

> The next step is for you to run some profiling tests to see
> where the kernel is spending time, e.g. with hwpmc.

  I have to get myself familiar with this new (for me) feature first... Also, 
hwpmc doesn't exist in RELENG_4, so it'll be impossible to compare results
with RELENG_4. It's a pity, because my tests clearly show that main loss
of performance (growth of overhead) occured during RELENG_4 -> 5 transition.
And last, but not least: my test system (Transcend TS-ABX31A
motherboard based on Intel BX chipset) does not provide APIC, will hwpmc
be useful in this situation?

> Also, when you are trying to quantify performance differences, you
> need to run many copies of the test (at least 10) under identical
> conditions to account for possible variations.  The ministat tool
> (/usr/src/tools/tools/ministat) is good for performing statistically
> meaningful comparisons of data sets when you have them.

  As my transfer takes much time (say 10 minutes) I've observed % of time
used many times during the transfer - they don't vary more than +/- several
(2-3) % during the main transfer phase (when transfer speed is stable).
My "time md5 -t" runs was used only as a confirmation that systat's numbers
are trustworthy - they simply confirm that there are _much_ less CPU cycles
available for application under RELENG_5/6 than under RELENG_4 (under 
identical load pattern). I ran "time md5 -t" several (3-5 times) just to
confirm my assumptions, and results didn't vary more than 3%. So I suppose
that ministat isn't necessary in my tests.

> Kris

Sincerely, Dmitry
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Hello!

On Tue, 2 May 2006, Robert Watson wrote:
>> options 	INVARIANTS
>> options 	INVARIANT_SUPPORT
>
> In FreeBSD 5.x and FreeBSD 6.x, the INVARIANTS option has been significantly 
> expanded to test a much larger set of invariants, and also incorporate kernel 
> use-after-free checking, which involves memory scrubbing.  This is great for 
> catching bugs, but it will have a significant performance impact, especially 
> for kernel-intensive loads.

  So maybe it's time to add, say,

options      INVARIANTS_EXTENDED

for these new and expensive checks, and leave only basic and cheap (yet
effective for bug hunting) asserts enabled when only

options      INVARIANTS

is defined?

> Robert N M Watson

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Some time ago I reported that pagezero kernel thread sometime takes 
(what seems to me) a too large chunk of available CPU (30%) on a very 
busy web server. There were no replies :( Since then, I've reconfigured 
apache to use PHP as a fastcgi module and the problem seems to have 
gotten worse - now it *always* takes ~25-30% CPU, and my "System" time 
stat shows it (its almost always ~30%).

 From what I can understand, pagezero thread fills kernel's pool of 
zeroed pages. This looks non-threteaning, but what would cause such high 
demand of zeroed pages on my system? The number of processes is almost 
constant, there are no frequent process spawnings or forks (top shows 
"last pid" to be almost constant). FastCGI processes communicate over 
UNIX sockets.

Also, pagezero thread is (should be) executing at idle priority - does 
this mean it won't interfere much with machine's performance? Even if 
"0% idle" is not uncommon state?

(This is FreeBSD 6.1-R, 2CPU SMP).

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On 5/13/06, Ivan Voras <ivoras@fer.hr> wrote:
> Some time ago I reported that pagezero kernel thread sometime takes
> (what seems to me) a too large chunk of available CPU (30%) on a very
> busy web server. There were no replies :( Since then, I've reconfigured
> apache to use PHP as a fastcgi module and the problem seems to have
> gotten worse - now it *always* takes ~25-30% CPU, and my "System" time
> stat shows it (its almost always ~30%).
>
>  From what I can understand, pagezero thread fills kernel's pool of
> zeroed pages. This looks non-threteaning, but what would cause such high
> demand of zeroed pages on my system? The number of processes is almost
> constant, there are no frequent process spawnings or forks (top shows
> "last pid" to be almost constant). FastCGI processes communicate over
> UNIX sockets.
>
> Also, pagezero thread is (should be) executing at idle priority - does
> this mean it won't interfere much with machine's performance? Even if
> "0% idle" is not uncommon state?
>

   How is the system, swapping-wise ?


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Vlad GALU wrote:

>   How is the system, swapping-wise ?

Good: no swapping, 100+ MB free memory.

Free memory varies between ~90 and ~110 MB - maybe something is 
returning memory to the OS and reclaiming it too often? (looking at top, 
it could be php-cgi, but is there a way to precisely track it? can it be 
stopped externally to the process?)


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Ivan Voras wrote:
> Some time ago I reported that pagezero kernel thread sometime takes 
> (what seems to me) a too large chunk of available CPU (30%) on a very 
> busy web server. There were no replies :( Since then, I've 
> reconfigured apache to use PHP as a fastcgi module and the problem 
> seems to have gotten worse - now it *always* takes ~25-30% CPU, and my 
> "System" time stat shows it (its almost always ~30%).
>
> From what I can understand, pagezero thread fills kernel's pool of 
> zeroed pages. This looks non-threteaning, but what would cause such 
> high demand of zeroed pages on my system? 

Generally, a whole bunch of processes that are demanding a lot or memory 
and/or swapping would do it.
What does "vmstat 1" look like...?

-- 
-Chuck


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David Kirchner wrote:
> Here's how to reproduce the snapshot deadlock I'm seeing, with 6.1-RC2
> cvsup'd as of 5 or 6 hours ago:
>
> [...]
>
> It locks up every time for me, with no further disk activity.
> Unfortunately, for some reason, my server console became unaccessable,
> so I'm not able to get to the kdb prompt. If I can get to it later,
> what should I run other than "show lockedvnodes" and "show threads"?
> Also, can anyone else try these steps and verify if they cause the
> same problem for you?

I just tried it on todays current, the process completes fine. No 
lockups or panics. This is on a dual p3 Dell 2400 with a raid 5 array on 
a PERC 2/Si (aac).


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Hello,

When I try to copy a large (7GB+) file from one filesystem to another the
copy is not equal to te source file.  This behaviour can be reproduced
repeatedly.

Details:

  - FreeBSD 6-STABLE, cvsupped yesterday
  - Intel L440GX+ main board, dual 700 MHz Pentium 3, 1 GB RAM
  - 2x Promise TX3 IDE controllers
  - 4x Hitachi HDS725050KLAT80 harddisks (500GB each)
    These disks are mirrored using gvinum as two 500GB volumes:

      drive disk0 device /dev/ad4s1e
      drive disk1 device /dev/ad6s1e
      drive disk2 device /dev/ad8s1e
      drive disk3 device /dev/ad10s1e
      volume vol0
       plex org concat
	sd length 0 drive disk0
       plex org concat
	sd length 0 drive disk2
      volume vol1
       plex org concat
	sd length 0 drive disk1
       plex org concat
	sd length 0 drive disk3

    Other filesystems are on SCSI disks.

  # sum /data/vol1/some_7GB_file
  19249 6990148 /data/vol1/some_7GB_file

  # cp -p /data/vol1/some_7GB_file /data/vol0/tmp.1
  # sum /data/vol0/tmp.1
  54291 6990148 /data/vol0/tmp.1

  # cp -p /data/vol1/some_7GB_file /data/vol0/tmp.2
  # sum /data/vol0/tmp.2
  46435 6990148 /data/vol0/tmp.2

  # cp -p /data/vol1/some_7GB_file /data/vol0/tmp.3
  # sum /data/vol0/tmp.3
  53090 6990148 /data/vol0/tmp.3

  # cp -p /data/vol1/some_7GB_file /data/vol0/tmp.4
  # sum /data/vol0/tmp.4
  63059 6990148 /data/vol0/tmp.4

  # cp -p /data/vol1/some_7GB_file /data/vol2/tmp.5
  # sum /data/vol2/tmp.5
  44188 6990148 /data/vol2/tmp.5

No errors in dmesg.

Checksums are the same when repeating the sum command later so the
problem occurs during copy, not during read-back.

When I first copy the file from /data/vol1 to a filesystem on a pair of
SCSI disks and then to /data/vol2 from the SCSI disks I get a correct
copy.

Relevant dmesg output:

  pcib1: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
  pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
  pcib2: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 15.0 on pci1
  pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib2
  atapci0: <Promise PDC20269 UDMA133 controller> port 0x3030-0x3037,0x3024-0x3027,0x3028-0x302f,0x3020-0x3023,0x3000-0x300f mem 0xf4200000-0xf4203fff irq 20 at device 4.0 on pci2
  ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
  ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
  atapci1: <Promise PDC20269 UDMA133 controller> port 0x3048-0x304f,0x303c-0x303f,0x3040-0x3047,0x3038-0x303b,0x3010-0x301f mem 0xf4204000-0xf4207fff irq 23 at device 7.0 on pci2
  ata4: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
  ata5: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
  ad4: 476940MB <HDS725050KLAT80 K2AOA10C> at ata2-master UDMA133
  ad6: 476940MB <HDS725050KLAT80 K2AOA10C> at ata3-master UDMA133
  ad8: 476940MB <HDS725050KLAT80 K2AOA10C> at ata4-master UDMA133
  ad10: 476940MB <HDS725050KLAT80 K2AOA10C> at ata5-master UDMA133

Hope someone can shed a light on this.

Regards,

Paul Schenkeveld

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Hi, all

I tried to use mount_umapfs with RELENG_6, but I can't like this:

# mount_umapfs -u umapfile -g gmapfile /home/yosimoto /mnt
mount_umapfs: No such file or directory

A umapfile and a gmapfile is folllowing:

# cat umapfile 
1
1001 501
# cat gmapfile 
1
1001 501
# ls -al
total 8
drwxr-xr-x  2 yosimoto  users  512 May 12 04:10 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 root      wheel  512 May 12 21:16 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root      wheel   11 May 12 04:06 gmapfile
-rw-r--r--  1 root      wheel   11 May 12 04:09 umapfile

Is the mistake found in this way$B!!(B?

---
Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO <yosimoto@waishi.jp>
<http://darwin.waishi.jp/diary/>
<http://www.ugon.jp/>


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Ivan Voras wrote:
> Some time ago I reported that pagezero kernel thread sometime takes 
> (what seems to me) a too large chunk of available CPU (30%) on a very 
> busy web server. There were no replies :( Since then, I've reconfigured 
> apache to use PHP as a fastcgi module and the problem seems to have 
> gotten worse - now it *always* takes ~25-30% CPU, and my "System" time 
> stat shows it (its almost always ~30%).
> 
>  From what I can understand, pagezero thread fills kernel's pool of 
> zeroed pages. This looks non-threteaning, but what would cause such high 
> demand of zeroed pages on my system? The number of processes is almost 
> constant, there are no frequent process spawnings or forks (top shows 
> "last pid" to be almost constant). FastCGI processes communicate over 
> UNIX sockets.
> 
> Also, pagezero thread is (should be) executing at idle priority - does 
> this mean it won't interfere much with machine's performance? Even if 
> "0% idle" is not uncommon state?
> 
> (This is FreeBSD 6.1-R, 2CPU SMP).

Can you give the output of top(1)? Until this is fixed, you can disable 
pagezero with sysctl vm.idlezero_enable=0.

-- Suleiman

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On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:32:44PM +0300, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote:
>=20
> Hello!
>=20
> On Tue, 2 May 2006, Robert Watson wrote:
> >>options 	INVARIANTS
> >>options 	INVARIANT_SUPPORT
> >
> >In FreeBSD 5.x and FreeBSD 6.x, the INVARIANTS option has been=20
> >significantly expanded to test a much larger set of invariants, and also=
=20
> >incorporate kernel use-after-free checking, which involves memory=20
> >scrubbing.  This is great for catching bugs, but it will have a=20
> >significant performance impact, especially for kernel-intensive loads.
>=20
>  So maybe it's time to add, say,
>=20
> options      INVARIANTS_EXTENDED
>=20
> for these new and expensive checks, and leave only basic and cheap (yet
> effective for bug hunting) asserts enabled when only
>=20
> options      INVARIANTS
>=20
> is defined?

No, they are all effective for bug hunting.  You just need to be aware
that it is incompatible with performance.

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On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:25:58PM +0300, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote:
>=20
> Hello!
>=20
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >>>>makeoptions	CONF_CFLAGS=3D-fno-builtin
> >I don't know, it needs to be tested in your particular case.
>=20
>  I've built another kernel, adding back
>=20
> makeoptions  CONF_CFLAGS=3D-fno-builtin
> options      QUOTA
>=20
> Results are almost the same as w/o these 2 options. So the following=20
> overhead difference:
>=20
> >>>>                %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
> >>>>RELENG_6 + rl0      45      40     15
> >>>>RELENG_6 + fxp0     45      35     20
> >
> >>                  %Sys   %Intr   %Idl  "time md5 -t" wall clock time
> >>RELENG_6 + rl0      34      24     42   1:43
> >>RELENG_6 + fxp0     30      20     50   1:40
>=20
> is caused by just these:
>=20
> options 	INVARIANTS
> options 	INVARIANT_SUPPORT

So what is the overall status?  I am not clear what your results are.

>  As my transfer takes much time (say 10 minutes) I've observed % of time
> used many times during the transfer - they don't vary more than +/- sever=
al
> (2-3) % during the main transfer phase (when transfer speed is stable).
> My "time md5 -t" runs was used only as a confirmation that systat's numbe=
rs
> are trustworthy - they simply confirm that there are _much_ less CPU cycl=
es
> available for application under RELENG_5/6 than under RELENG_4 (under=20
> identical load pattern). I ran "time md5 -t" several (3-5 times) just to
> confirm my assumptions, and results didn't vary more than 3%. So I suppose
> that ministat isn't necessary in my tests.

Perhaps not when the difference is large, but you need to be very
careful when differences are below ~10%, because it's easy to make
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Hi,
I am trying to talk to a high voltage power supply unit we're using at work,
it uses RS232 and you can read back current, voltage, faults, etc..

What I have seems to work fine except that occassionally I get junk read ba=
ck,
 strangely it appears the longer my program runs the more often I see corru=
pt data.

The program is written in Tcl and I'm using version 8.4, I have a test PC h=
ere which
is quite old (FreeBSD 4.mumble, Tcl 8.2) and it never sees any problems. I =
am soon
going to try an identical system to the one failing (6.0-STABLE)

It's possible it could be the Tcl interpreter getting corrupted but IMO it'=
s a very
odd manifestation if so..

The serial card in it is..
puc0: <Dolphin Peripherals 4036> port 0x9400-0x941f irq 18 at device 13.0 o=
n pci0
sio4: <Dolphin Peripherals 4036> on puc0
sio4: type 16550A
sio4: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode
sio5: <Dolphin Peripherals 4036> on puc0
sio5: type 16550A
sio5: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode

So, apart from the actual program code everything else is different :)
(Hopefully my next test will reduce the variable space a lot..)

Any sugestions most welcome.

=2D-=20
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
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Hello!

On Fri, 12 May 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>>>>>                %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
>>>>>> RELENG_6 + rl0      45      40     15
>>>>>> RELENG_6 + fxp0     45      35     20
>>>
>>>>                  %Sys   %Intr   %Idl  "time md5 -t" wall clock time
>>>> RELENG_6 + rl0      34      24     42   1:43
>>>> RELENG_6 + fxp0     30      20     50   1:40
>>
>> is caused by just these:
>>
>> options 	INVARIANTS
>> options 	INVARIANT_SUPPORT
>
> So what is the overall status?  I am not clear what your results are.

  Results for RELENG_6+rl0 are

%Sys   %Intr   %Idl
34      24     42

without INVARIANTS, and

%Sys   %Intr   %Idl
45      40     15

with them. Other options like QUOTA and "makeoptions
CONF_CFLAGS=-fno-builtin" make almost no difference. So, under my test
conditions, the best % of idle CPU time under RELENG_6 is 42%, while under 
RELENG_4 we had

%Sys   %Intr   %Idl
14      14     72

under the same conditions (and with INVARIANTS!) ;(

>> available for application under RELENG_5/6 than under RELENG_4 (under
>> identical load pattern). I ran "time md5 -t" several (3-5 times) just to
>> confirm my assumptions, and results didn't vary more than 3%. So I suppose
>> that ministat isn't necessary in my tests.
>
> Perhaps not when the difference is large, but you need to be very
> careful when differences are below ~10%, because it's easy to make
> incorrect conclusions.

  I agree with you. I would make more measurements if my aim was to determine
which branch between RELENG_5 and _6 to use. But as these results are close
enough, and RELENG_6 is superiour regarding new features (and often 
stability), IMHO there's no point in using RELENG_5 at all. I'm just trying
to understand why performance of RELENG_6 is worse than in RELENG_4 _that 
much_, and whether this sad situation can be improved somehow.

> Kris

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Hello!

On Fri, 12 May 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>  So maybe it's time to add, say,
>>
>> options      INVARIANTS_EXTENDED
>>
>> for these new and expensive checks, and leave only basic and cheap (yet
>> effective for bug hunting) asserts enabled when only
>>
>> options      INVARIANTS
>>
>> is defined?
>
> No, they are all effective for bug hunting.  You just need to be aware
> that it is incompatible with performance.

  But, you know, many bugs can be hunted only under long-term production 
conditions, while incompatibility between INVARIANTS and performance
effectively prevents successful bug hunting under these conditions,
because performance is often critical in production.

> Kris

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Paul Schenkeveld wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> When I try to copy a large (7GB+) file from one filesystem to another the
> copy is not equal to te source file.  This behaviour can be reproduced
> repeatedly.
> 
> Hope someone can shed a light on this.
> 

I had a slot 1 board that exhibited a similar problem - changing the cpu 
heatsink so it didn't overhang the north bridge, cured the problem (i.e. 
letting the north bridge see some cool air).

While the *cpu* heatsink may not be your problem, you might want to 
either check your chipset temperature(s), or install heatsinks on them 
(two promise cards in the 66Mhz PCI slots can shift quite a lot of data, 
if your working both of 'em!).

Cheers

Mark

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On 05/13/06 01:59, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>>>>>>                %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
>>>>>>> RELENG_6 + rl0      45      40     15
>>>>>>> RELENG_6 + fxp0     45      35     20
>>>>
>>>>>                  %Sys   %Intr   %Idl  "time md5 -t" wall clock time=

>>>>> RELENG_6 + rl0      34      24     42   1:43
>>>>> RELENG_6 + fxp0     30      20     50   1:40
>>>
>>> is caused by just these:
>>>
>>> options     INVARIANTS
>>> options     INVARIANT_SUPPORT
>>
>> So what is the overall status?  I am not clear what your results are.
>=20
>  Results for RELENG_6+rl0 are
>=20
> %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
> 34      24     42
>=20
> without INVARIANTS, and
>=20
> %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
> 45      40     15
>=20
> with them. Other options like QUOTA and "makeoptions
> CONF_CFLAGS=3D-fno-builtin" make almost no difference. So, under my tes=
t
> conditions, the best % of idle CPU time under RELENG_6 is 42%, while
> under RELENG_4 we had
>=20
> %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
> 14      14     72
>=20
> under the same conditions (and with INVARIANTS!) ;(
>=20
>>> available for application under RELENG_5/6 than under RELENG_4 (under=

>>> identical load pattern). I ran "time md5 -t" several (3-5 times) just=
 to
>>> confirm my assumptions, and results didn't vary more than 3%. So I
>>> suppose
>>> that ministat isn't necessary in my tests.
>>
>> Perhaps not when the difference is large, but you need to be very
>> careful when differences are below ~10%, because it's easy to make
>> incorrect conclusions.
>=20
>  I agree with you. I would make more measurements if my aim was to
> determine
> which branch between RELENG_5 and _6 to use. But as these results are c=
lose
> enough, and RELENG_6 is superiour regarding new features (and often
> stability), IMHO there's no point in using RELENG_5 at all. I'm just tr=
ying
> to understand why performance of RELENG_6 is worse than in RELENG_4
> _that much_, and whether this sad situation can be improved somehow.

Have you tried putting I586_CPU in there?  See
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-December/020696.ht=
ml.

Also, use the link0 option with your fxp cards if they support it.  See
the fxp(4) man page for more info.  Here is an example /etc/rc.conf entry=
:
ifconfig_fxp0=3D"inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link0"

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> I have a test PC here which
> is quite old (FreeBSD 4.mumble, Tcl 8.2) and it never
> sees any problems. I am soon going to try an identical system
> to the one failing (6.0-STABLE)

Have you checked if the PC's serial port adheres to RS232 specs?

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On Saturday 13 May 2006 19:15, Joseph Koshy wrote:
> > I have a test PC here which
> > is quite old (FreeBSD 4.mumble, Tcl 8.2) and it never
> > sees any problems. I am soon going to try an identical system
> > to the one failing (6.0-STABLE)
>
> Have you checked if the PC's serial port adheres to RS232 specs?

Not as such, although it is a bit difficult as the PC is rather remote :(
(80 degrees north)

I have another card of the same model here and I will also see if I can get=
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Boris Samorodov wrote on Thu, 11 May 2006 09:46:

> On Thu, 11 May 2006 01:28:29 +0200 Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote:
>=20
>> Here is a transcript of what is shown on-screen before crash appears:
>=20
>> nvidia0: <GeForce 6800> mem
>> 0xfa000000-0xfaffffff,0xe8000000-oxeffffff,0xfb000000-0xfbffffff irq
>> 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
>> WARNING: Device driver "
>=20
> Did you install nvidia driver from ports? Then you should rebuild it.

Correct, and thanks, this fixed it.

Safe mode was not enough to boot up without the module, so I was very
uncertain as to how I could recompile the culprit.

Then I found the boot console where I could type in something along the lin=
es
of "disable-module nvidia" and then "boot-conf", which in turn continued
booting the box without loading the "old" nvidia.ko-module. Reinstall of
x11/nvidia-driver and a new reboot was what I needed to get back on track.

Big thanks to Samorodov and the rest of this list!


--=20
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I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 and had no problems during the basic
installation.  I did a "Custom" install and seleced "All" in the
"Choose Distributions" menu.

When I attempt to run a program compiled on release 5.4 under
release 6.1, the system complains that it cannot find libc.so.5.
On my release 5.4 system, /usr/lib/compat contains old shared
libraries.  On my release 6.1 system, /usr/lib/compat contains
only the aout subdirectory.

Is this a bug in release 6.1?

dan

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Suleiman Souhlal wrote:

> Can you give the output of top(1)? Until this is fixed, you can disable 
> pagezero with sysctl vm.idlezero_enable=0.

It's weekend so the load is not that great today:


last pid: 39200;  load averages:  0.94,  1.07,  1.06    up 3+19:07:24 
13:55:38
131 processes: 4 running, 109 sleeping, 18 waiting
CPU states: 46.7% user,  0.0% nice, 29.5% system,  1.5% interrupt, 22.2% 
idle
Mem: 434M Active, 304M Inact, 203M Wired, 50M Cache, 111M Buf, 4912K Free
Swap: 1500M Total, 88K Used, 1500M Free

   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
    12 root        1 171   52     0K     8K RUN    0  57.2H 49.22% idle: 
cpu0
39165 www         1 114    0 64940K 32268K CPU1   0   0:12 40.58% php-cgi
    11 root        1 171   52     0K     8K RUN    1  46.6H 36.43% idle: 
cpu1
39094 www         1   4    0 57680K 28872K accept 1   0:26 20.52% php-cgi
    39 root        1 -44 -163     0K     8K pgzero 1 772:59 18.41% pagezero
39167 www         1  99    0 54108K 24220K select 1   0:03  9.44% php-cgi
38884 www         1  97    0 51684K 23936K select 1   1:16  7.52% php-cgi
39166 www         1   4    0 51436K 21564K accept 0   0:04  6.44% php-cgi

Here's vmstat 1:

  procs      memory      page                    disks     faults      cpu
  r b w     avm    fre  flt  re  pi  po  fr  sr ad4 da0   in   sy  cs us 
sy id
  2 2 0  839148  47488 9024   0   0   0 8961   7   0   0  553 4754 1600 
28 15 57
  1 2 0  839680  46116 21419   0   0   0 20770   0   2   0  528 5080 
1473 55 27 18
  1 2 0  840148  43624 20683   0   0   0 21434   0   0   0  486 4107 
1278 52 29 19
  3 2 0  840548  43212 19655   0   0   0 18947   0   0   0  720 16122 
2083 48 36 17
  2 2 0  840968  44204 19941   0   0   0 19963   0   4   0  771 7228 
2172 52 29 19
  0 3 0  836080  53200 10445   0   0   0 13591   0  35   0  590 7084 
1893 27 24 49
  1 2 0  828472  55124  224   0   0   0 543   0   3   3  687 9430 1996 
10  4 86
  1 2 0  832640  50928  269   0   0   0  12   0  13   2  592 3316 1826 
10  3 87
  2 2 0  835748  48336 5301   0   0   0 3970   0   0   0  623 8692 2052 
32 14 54
  1 2 0  838068  46288 21716   0   0   0 20882   0   2   0  598 7072 
1658 50 30 19
  3 2 0  839012  44284 22194   0   0   0 22233   0   2   1  301 1442 795 
42 28 30
  1 2 0  839788  44060 21738   0   0   0 21317   0   2   0  345 2853 930 
45 30 25
  1 2 0  840440  42844 21225   0   0   0 21095   0   0   0  518 4993 
1333 51 30 20
  1 2 0  841036  42244 22867   0   0   0 22862   0   2   0  344 1174 835 
44 29 27
  1 2 1  841572  41696 21294   0   0   0 21065   0   2   0  445 3639 
1197 49 26 25
  2 2 0  842044  41208 20025   0   0   0 20102   0  44   0  661 6631 
1942 51 30 19
  1 3 0  842480  40716 20717   0   0   0 20466   0   2   0  560 6790 
1448 54 29 17
  2 2 0  842900  40212 20760   0   0   0 20935   0   0   3  661 6669 
1785 54 28 18
  0 2 0  829828  53260 12530   0   0   0 15688   0  32   0  844 9203 
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Hello,

I've recently became an owner of Xircom 16-bit PCMCIA 10/100 Ethernet Card,=
=20
which gets picked up by FreeBSD-6.1 as xe0 by the if_xe(4) driver. Here is =
a=20
line from dmesg:

<snip>
xe0: <Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100> at port 0xd040-0xd04f iomem=20
0xff904000-0xff904fff irq 11 function 0 config 1 on pccard1
xe0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
xe0: version 0x45/0x04, 100Mbps capable
<snip>

Ofcourse, the 100Mbit mode is somewhat flawed by 16bit PCMCIA interface, bu=
t i=20
plan on using it with 10Mbps anyway; The box is a DSL router so higher spee=
ds=20
on the outside are not required.

However, since it is a DSL link, altq is somewhat a necessity - and here is=
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question - how hard would it be to write altq support for this driver? Is i=
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Right now I use the built in fxp0 as outside interface, and queue there, an=
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there is another problem - the card is simply not quick enough for 100mbps=
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LAN operation ;-)

So my kind request here i guess would be if someone could perhaphs find som=
e=20
time in their schedule to mayhap enable altq on this interface, or at least=
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reply to me why it is not possible..

Another thing would be un-gianting the interface but that is not such a=20
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Regards,

//m.
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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 03:01:18AM -0400 I heard the voice of
Jonathan Noack, and lo! it spake thus:
> 
> Have you tried putting I586_CPU in there?  See
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-December/020696.html.

As Peter Jeremy mentioned in
<http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-December/020731.html>,
the primary suspect (optimized copy/zero routines) would never happen
except on a real 586 CPU, and is totally disabled anyway.  See
sys/i386/isa/npx.c line 424-437 (line numbers from rev 1.163, salt to
taste):

#ifdef I586_CPU_XXX
    if (cpu_class == CPUCLASS_586 && npx_ex16 && npx_exists &&
[...]

The #ifdef will never match, and even if it did, the if() would never
kick in unless the CPU was actually a 586.  The #ifdef has been
disabled since rev 1.95 (2001/04/13).


(This isn't to say that there isn't something else hiding somewhere
that I686_CPU doesn't enable that it should, but just nipping another
round of the copy routine discussion in the bud...)


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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 02:13:08PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to talk to a high voltage power supply unit we're using at work,
> it uses RS232 and you can read back current, voltage, faults, etc..
> 
> What I have seems to work fine except that occassionally I get junk read back,
>  strangely it appears the longer my program runs the more often I see corrupt data.

I am not an expert, except that we added another card to our
old Server (Dialout) and upgraded from 4.x to 6.x and had
very interesting problems, too. The following seemed to help
here:

First, make sure you have a dedicated IRQ for the card.
Then, add options PUC_FASTINTR to your kernel config.
If you encounter silo overflows, you might need to increase
cp4ticks in sio.c, eg
- cp4ticks = speed / 10 / hz * 4;
+ cp4ticks = speed / 10 / hz * 40;
and/or you might want to change hz from 1000 back to 100.

This is on old 500MHz-hardware which should be capable of
handling a few sios without problems (but generates about
15% irq-load on swi4: clock sio permanently under 6.x).

$ ps ax | grep swi
   12  ??  WL     1:43.10 [swi1: net]
   13  ??  WL   5109:23.82 [swi4: clock sio]
   14  ??  WL     0:00.00 [swi3: vm]
   16  ??  WL     0:18.64 [swi2: cambio]
   17  ??  WL     0:00.00 [swi6: task queue]
   18  ??  WL     0:00.00 [swi6: Giant taskq]
   19  ??  WL     0:00.00 [swi5: +]
   22  ??  WL     0:22.20 [swi0: sio]

> The serial card in it is..
> puc0: <Dolphin Peripherals 4036> port 0x9400-0x941f irq 18 at device 13.0 on pci0
> sio4: <Dolphin Peripherals 4036> on puc0
> sio4: type 16550A
> sio4: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode
> sio5: <Dolphin Peripherals 4036> on puc0
> sio5: type 16550A
> sio5: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode
> 
> So, apart from the actual program code everything else is different :)
> (Hopefully my next test will reduce the variable space a lot..)

We still have some strange issues we did not have with the
old card only and FreeBSD 4.x, but at least it is working
again without data loss etc. 

Have you looked at the port speed and if it is changing or
has different speeds on both ends? The card together with
the modems were really trying very hard to get the data to
the other side, and were very good at it, especially with
smaller chunks (necessary for dialing and authentication).
Problems then started with real traffic going over the line -
and we didn't get any errors in messages...

My impression is that serial io irq-handling on 6.x needs
some improvement (personal feeling: it is much worse then
on 4.x). 

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Holger Kipp

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On Saturday 13 May 2006 20:59, Dan Strick wrote:
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> Is this a bug in release 6.1?

I think you need to install ports/misc/compat5x

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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 08:59:01AM +0300, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote:
> I'm just trying to understand why performance of RELENG_6 is worse than
> in RELENG_4 _that much_, and whether this sad situation can be improved
> somehow.

The architecture of the system substantially changed in the 5.X timeframe
to correctly support SMP.  There was not time enough during its lifetime
to correct all the problems.  The goal (AFAIK) of 6.X is to consolidate
those changes and work on bugfixes and performance.  (Already 6.X is
substantially faster in disk access).

There is a great deal of work being done behind-the-scenes (and being
discussed here at BSDCan) about performance.  Expect to some some dramatic
improvements in the 6.2 timeframe, if the hallways discussions are correct :-)

mcl

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Ivan Voras wrote:
> 
>   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
>    39 root        1 -44 -163     0K     8K pgzero 1 772:59 18.41% pagezero

It looks like the pagezero thread has a wrong priority. It should be 171 
. I guess there's a bug in the scheduler that makes it change in certain 
conditions.

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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 08:59:01AM +0300, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote:
>=20
> Hello!
>=20
> On Fri, 12 May 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >>>>>>               %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
> >>>>>>RELENG_6 + rl0      45      40     15
> >>>>>>RELENG_6 + fxp0     45      35     20
> >>>
> >>>>                 %Sys   %Intr   %Idl  "time md5 -t" wall clock time
> >>>>RELENG_6 + rl0      34      24     42   1:43
> >>>>RELENG_6 + fxp0     30      20     50   1:40
> >>
> >>is caused by just these:
> >>
> >>options 	INVARIANTS
> >>options 	INVARIANT_SUPPORT
> >
> >So what is the overall status?  I am not clear what your results are.
>=20
>  Results for RELENG_6+rl0 are
>=20
> %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
> 34      24     42
>=20
> without INVARIANTS, and
>=20
> %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
> 45      40     15
>=20
> with them. Other options like QUOTA and "makeoptions
> CONF_CFLAGS=3D-fno-builtin" make almost no difference. So, under my test
> conditions, the best % of idle CPU time under RELENG_6 is 42%, while unde=
r=20
> RELENG_4 we had
>=20
> %Sys   %Intr   %Idl
> 14      14     72
>=20
> under the same conditions (and with INVARIANTS!) ;(

OK, thanks.  In order to understand the differences you will need to
proceed to detailed profiling traces as I previously mentioned.

With respect to INVARIANTS, you just need to get used to the fact that
running thousands of checks for bugs is incompatible with running at
optimal speed.  The effect is cumulative over time: as more checks are
added (and since they are essentially never removed), checks that are
individually very cheap become collectively quite expensive.  It is
not feasible to only enable the subset of the thousands of checks that
are going to find the most bugs.

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Suleiman Souhlal wrote:
> Ivan Voras wrote:
>>
>>   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
>>    39 root        1 -44 -163     0K     8K pgzero 1 772:59 18.41% 
>> pagezero
> 
> It looks like the pagezero thread has a wrong priority. It should be 171 
> . I guess there's a bug in the scheduler that makes it change in certain 
> conditions.

Maybe this is the same problem jhb recently fixed in head with threads 
getting assigned the wrong priority under certain conditions (it showed 
up most easily with taskq threads).

	Sam

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Sam Leffler wrote:

> Maybe this is the same problem jhb recently fixed in head with threads 
> getting assigned the wrong priority under certain conditions (it showed 
> up most easily with taskq threads).

Is it this one:

jhb         2006-04-17 18:20:38 UTC

   FreeBSD src repository

   Modified files:
     sys/dev/hwpmc        hwpmc_mod.c
     sys/dev/random       randomdev_soft.c
     sys/kern             kern_intr.c kern_poll.c kern_synch.c
                          kern_thr.c kern_umtx.c sched_4bsd.c
                          subr_taskqueue.c uipc_mqueue.c
     sys/vm               vm_zeroidle.c
   Log:
   Change msleep() and tsleep() to not alter the calling thread's priority
   if the specified priority is zero.  This avoids a race where the calling
   thread could read a snapshot of it's current priority, then a different
   thread could change the first thread's priority, then the original thread
   would call sched_prio() inside msleep() undoing the change made by the
   second thread.  I used a priority of zero as no thread that calls 
msleep()
   or tsleep() should be specifying a priority of zero anyway.

   The various places that passed 'curthread->td_priority' or some variant
   as the priority now pass 0.

   Revision  Changes    Path
   1.24      +1 -8      src/sys/dev/hwpmc/hwpmc_mod.c
   1.13      +2 -4      src/sys/dev/random/randomdev_soft.c
   1.132     +3 -5      src/sys/kern/kern_intr.c
   1.26      +1 -3      src/sys/kern/kern_poll.c
   1.279     +5 -3      src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c
   1.43      +2 -2      src/sys/kern/kern_thr.c
   1.36      +4 -6      src/sys/kern/kern_umtx.c
   1.78      +1 -1      src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c
   1.36      +1 -1      src/sys/kern/subr_taskqueue.c
   1.15      +2 -2      src/sys/kern/uipc_mqueue.c
   1.37      +1 -3      src/sys/vm/vm_zeroidle.c


Would it be enough just to apply this change to my 6.1-R tree:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/vm/vm_zeroidle.c.diff?r1=1.36&r2=1.37

?

It's probably not, so: any chance of MFC-ing the commit? :)

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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 10:37:40AM -0400 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
> 
> With respect to INVARIANTS, you just need to get used to the fact
> that running thousands of checks for bugs is incompatible with
> running at optimal speed.

(I'm not sure what the point of saying this is, really, but I'll say
it anyway.)

I've run all my systems with INVARIANTS for at least as long as I've
known it was there.  While more performance is always good, hardly any
of my systems are so constrained as to need every bit of suds all the
time; trading off a bit of performance for a better chance of catching
a problem before it really screws something up is just a no-brainer.

Additionally (and especially on -CURRENT), I run it because I think
more people run it than don't, and while theoretically it should just
add checks, I know there are places where it changes code paths much
more than that.  So, the !(INVARIANTS) code paths don't get exercised
as much, and I worry about bugs hiding there that don't get found (I
think I recall a case or three over the years of just that happening).
Like everyone, I'm sure, I'm all for ferreting out bugs and getting
them fixed, but I'd rather not have to bust my virtual face on the
virtual concrete to do it    ;)

It's totally worth wasting 2% of the system on adding that security.
Heck, maybe even 5%.  But 10%?  25%?  I wonder.  It's been a long time
since I had a system fall over from a KASSERT, but due to the code
path issues, I'm not sure that really means I'm "safe" without it.


Yeah, I was right, there wasn't really much point in there.  But I
typed it, so y'all have to read it now    :p


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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 10:52:32AM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 10:37:40AM -0400 I heard the voice of
> Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
> >=20
> > With respect to INVARIANTS, you just need to get used to the fact
> > that running thousands of checks for bugs is incompatible with
> > running at optimal speed.
>=20
> (I'm not sure what the point of saying this is, really, but I'll say
> it anyway.)
>=20
> I've run all my systems with INVARIANTS for at least as long as I've
> known it was there.  While more performance is always good, hardly any
> of my systems are so constrained as to need every bit of suds all the
> time; trading off a bit of performance for a better chance of catching
> a problem before it really screws something up is just a no-brainer.
>=20
> Additionally (and especially on -CURRENT), I run it because I think
> more people run it than don't, and while theoretically it should just
> add checks, I know there are places where it changes code paths much
> more than that.  So, the !(INVARIANTS) code paths don't get exercised
> as much, and I worry about bugs hiding there that don't get found (I
> think I recall a case or three over the years of just that happening).
> Like everyone, I'm sure, I'm all for ferreting out bugs and getting
> them fixed, but I'd rather not have to bust my virtual face on the
> virtual concrete to do it    ;)

FYI, INVARIANTS adds checks but does not (is not supposed to) divert
code paths.

Kris

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Hi Mateusz,

On Sat, May 13, 2006 2:04 pm, Mateusz Jędrasik wrote:
> I've recently became an owner of Xircom 16-bit PCMCIA 10/100 Ethernet
> Card,
> which gets picked up by FreeBSD-6.1 as xe0 by the if_xe(4) driver. Here is
> a
> line from dmesg:
>
> <snip>
> xe0: <Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100> at port 0xd040-0xd04f iomem
> 0xff904000-0xff904fff irq 11 function 0 config 1 on pccard1
> xe0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> xe0: version 0x45/0x04, 100Mbps capable
> <snip>

> So my kind request here i guess would be if someone could perhaphs find
> some
> time in their schedule to mayhap enable altq on this interface, or at
> least
> reply to me why it is not possible..

Look at the drivers at:
http://people.freebsd.org/~mlaier/ALTQ_driver/

It's usually a rather simple task, but having it locked first certainly
helps to make it not explode.  I won't get to it right now, but write me
an email or send in a PR after you've looked at it and got somewhere (or
didn't) and I see it into the tree.

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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:58:26AM -0400 I heard the voice of
Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus:
> 
> FYI, INVARIANTS adds checks but does not (is not supposed to) divert
> code paths.

It does at least in UMA; it does a lot of bzero()/NULL'ing out of
memory, which might hide later uninitialized-use bugs that could bite
you without it (and, of course, probably burns a fair chunk of CPU to
do it ;).  I know I've heard other cases over the past 5 years or so;
that's the only one I've heard recently or can check, but I wouldn't
be too surprised if there were others.


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I just noticed these messages in my security log on one of my production 
servers, running 6.1. Can anyone shed some light as to what is going on 
here? This is a dual core opteron system, on a tyan mb, with a nvidia 
chipset. The filesystem is on the nvidia raid1 controller.

FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Tue May  9 23:55:03 EDT 2006
    root@xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SONIC_NS1
ACPI APIC Table: <Nvidia AWRDACPI>
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 170 (2009.27-MHz K8-class CPU)

atapci1: <nVidia nForce CK804 SATA300 controller> port 
0x9f0-0x9f7,0xbf0-0xbf3,0x970-0x977,0xb70-0xb73,0xd400-0xd40f mem 
0xfebfc000-0xfebfcfff irq 21 at device 7.0 on pci0

ad4: 114473MB <Seagate ST3120813AS 3.AAD> at ata2-master SATA300
ad6: 114473MB <Seagate ST3120813AS 3.AAD> at ata3-master SATA300
ar0: 114473MB <nVidia MediaShield RAID1> status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master

---
May 13 03:01:29 ns1 kernel: DOH! ata_alloc_composite failed!
May 13 03:01:29 ns1 last message repeated 2 times



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Subject: Re: Reproducable file corruption on 6-STABLE
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On 5/13/06, Paul Schenkeveld <fb-stable@psconsult.nl> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> When I try to copy a large (7GB+) file from one filesystem to another the
> copy is not equal to te source file.  This behaviour can be reproduced
> repeatedly.
>
> Details:
>
>   - FreeBSD 6-STABLE, cvsupped yesterday

Hi!

I have very similar problem with my i386 6.1-STABLE installation. With
6.0 there were no problems. I have already eliminated bad hardware
(memory, hard drive) and also overheating. I'm able to reproduce the
problem with quite small files. 23 megabytes has been enough to get
corrupted. I have softupdates enabled and the disk is an IDE drive.

There however is one small difference compared to your situation. I
had a Java package in the root partition and after upgrading from 6.0
to 6.1 I reinstalled the package. The package was corrupted even
though I had used that same package before to install the Java
run-time to the 6.0 successfully. I haven't touched the file in any
way between the installations. I also has experienced multiple
corruptions while copying files. Usually I have to copy a single large
file three or four times to get it without problems. With smaller
files (less than 20 megs), there hasn't been any problems.

Next I'm going to downgrade my installation back to the 6.0 and see if
the problem will go away.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has experienced same sort of
problems with 6.1.


Sincerely,

        Matti

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Jared wrote:
> Hi -stable!
> 
> I'd like to bring something to the attention of -stable that was posted 
> to -amd64 but has not yet being resolved:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=amd64/95554
> 
> I'm unable to test to see if this occurs on i386 aswell so am unsure if 
> this is the right list to post to. But it appears to me that it would be 
> something that should be addressed prior to 6.1-RELEASE.

Hi all. This does indeed occur on i386 also. I had a drive die in a 
machine this past week and replaced it with two brand new Seagate 80GB 
SATA 300 drives to do mirroring, but 6.1-RELEASE only detects one of the 
drives (and only the one on the primary SATA channel even if I switch 
them around).

Upon finding this PR, I tried 6.0-RELEASE and it detected both drives on 
the install, so I went ahead and installed 6.0 to use until there is a 
fix since this is a production workstation. Unfortunately, I forgot that 
I was running 6.1-PRERELEASE on the previous install because none of the 
controllers on my board (MSI K8NGM2 - nForce4) are detected in 6.0, and 
instead run as "GENERIC" at UDMA33.

I don't have the latest BIOS since it requires Windows to update, but 
the summary for all updates show mainly CPU things...nothing related to 
ATA/SATA/RAID.

I'm trying to decide if I should use 6.0 with the "GENERIC" controller 
and reduced speeds since it needs to be operational, or try the nve 
patches to fix the onboard LAN so I can free up a PCI slot and then put 
in a known working SATA controller that would be recognized and at full 
speeds. Not meant as pressure in any to the developers, but I'm 
wondering if you guys think it will be a while before this is fixed so I 
can make an informed decision on hardware purchases or not and get this 
machine back up.

Thanks in advance!

-Mark

> I am experiencing the same problem as described in the original PR, but 
> with Western Digital hard drives and the latest  BIOS version (1001) 
> which is known to fix the ACPI DSDT bugs that have plagued these boards.
> 
> I have not liased with the mailling lists before if you need any more 
> information please ask and I'll supply what I can as best I can. But the 
> original PR is well written.
> 
> I will also see if RC-2 resolves this when cvsup has RC2 and I can build 
> an RC2 world/kernel.
> 
> Cheers
> and Thanks for a great operating system
> 
> Jared
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