From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 10:10:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CECF16A401 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guevenbay@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate09.web.de (fmmailgate09.web.de [217.72.192.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5684213C484 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guevenbay@web.de) Received: from web.de by fmmailgate09.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id D9A256E0F8F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:34:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.132.146.213] by freemailng1604.web.de with HTTP; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:34:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:34:29 +0200 Message-Id: <1715072028@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gueven Bay To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Precedence: fm-user Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Translating LPI certifications for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:10:25 -0000 Hello dear FreeBSD community, I am in the process of translating the objectives of the Linux Professional Institute certifications to FreeBSD topics. I want to collect knowledge about FreeBSD in parallel to Linux topics so that it will be easier to translate Linux skills to FreeBSD. But as I not only translate the objectives to FreeBSD but also to NetBSD and OpenSolaris this little project will be a gathering point for all the communities of these operating systems. The starting point is in my blog: http://chambers-of-unix.blogspot.com/search/label/LPI%20port You can help me if you complete and correct the tools and files that will be listed as important for each of the objectives. best regards Gueven Bay _______________________________________________________________ SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192 From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 12:08:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8560216A401 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179B413C45B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1602661ugh for ; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 05:08:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tUvpPUWhyD410VrNgsI4moFc1Fi6v4S1rK5EJ72/E8J4CrxRLUAd5QEg+2Gkv+5xy5IXxrCBZMUUsQtATMT2p+foLz92U9U8XSnFEf9+Wb7mWciprI4y3iueZReWIK66LWIG+KoPau597WVx1DUUtHrnJJQzu5dLD8yIrrvf70U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tqXPXT03wJ7gw2eBYUauDSOYtKQ5tqNbUrLxGdJ8+cDYjEeaU3KN4FTMXvm5ApfR5Fax/9xz/OEqGf1g2wQGDizqJ90v6AN+gUP/3xNNgL3u8uUo4Mw0Blw9b/h1KtpaYrwnZLvK6adeaQMBvKnSCJYVHG6ezMop0WYp6I6xJJM= Received: by 10.114.137.2 with SMTP id k2mr1758764wad.1175513960585; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 04:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.23.9 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 04:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <84dead720704020439r47397e7em5e2da2976938a5f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 17:09:20 +0530 From: "Joseph Koshy" To: "Gueven Bay" In-Reply-To: <1715072028@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1715072028@web.de> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Translating LPI certifications for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:08:02 -0000 > I am in the process of translating the objectives of the Linux > Professional Institute certifications to FreeBSD topics. [...snip...] > You can help me if you complete and correct the tools > and files that will be listed as important for each of the > objectives. You might want to check out: www.bsdcertification.org -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 2 13:33:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20D716A404 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guevenbay@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate05.web.de (fmmailgate05.web.de [217.72.192.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC14213C484 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guevenbay@web.de) Received: from web.de by fmmailgate05.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id DF24810E1A15 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 15:28:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.132.153.136] by freemailng1604.web.de with HTTP; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:28:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:28:49 +0200 Message-Id: <1715401808@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: guevenbay@web.de To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Precedence: fm-user Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Translating LPI certifications for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 13:33:04 -0000 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Joseph Koshy" > Gesendet: 02.04.07 13:39:38 > An: "Gueven Bay" > CC: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Betreff: Re: Translating LPI certifications for FreeBSD > > I am in the process of translating the objectives of the Linux > > Professional Institute certifications to FreeBSD topics. > [...snip...] > > You can help me if you complete and correct the tools > > and files that will be listed as important for each of the > > objectives. >=20 > You might want to check out: www.bsdcertification.org I know bsdcertification.org . I follow this program since they went public.=20 And I don't want to make a competition to bsdcertification.org. But instead this "porting" of LPI to *BSD should show side by side which tasks in Linux you can accomplish how in the various BSD systems. So, not a competition but a completion. And as I wrote I want to bring the various communities together. I thank you for your link, the above explanations are for making it cleare= r. regards Gueven =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. 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References 1. http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/name-userid-emails.html 2. http://myworld.ebay.com/ackspike 3. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=ackspike 4. http://0x7df7c604/SIgnIn/signin.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllSignIn.php?msgusr=ackspike&SignIn&co_partnerId=2&pUserId=&siteid&sitei 5. http://0x7df7c604/SIgnIn/signin.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllSignIn.php?msgusr=ackspike&SignIn&co_partnerId=2&pUserId=&siteid&sitei 6. http://0x7df7c604/SIgnIn/signin.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllSignIn.php?msgusr=ackspike&SignIn&co_partnerId=2&pUserId=&siteid&sitei 7. http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter 8. http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/selling_safely.html 9. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-unwelcome-email-misuse.html 10. http://cgi1.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ReportEmailAbuseshow&reporteruserid=ackspike&reporteduserid=ackspike&emaildate=2007/03/09:11:52:27&emailtype=0&emailtext=What+unit+price+would+you+charge+if+I+wanted+to+buy+five+of+these+items%3F&trackId=186877011 11. http://pages.ebay.com/education/spooftutorial 12. mailto:arf@nantucketbank.com 13. http://cgi4.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?OptinLoginShow 14. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/privacy-policy.html 15. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 13:32:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392AD16A402 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF6213C458 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D453446E5A; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:11:09 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Christian Weisgerber In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070404140323.C18288@fledge.watson.org> References: <4603D9FF.4070100@xk7.net> <4603E522.2090901@praxisvermittlung24.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lack of FreeBSD coverage in the UK media X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:32:21 -0000 On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Daniel Seuffert wrote: > >> I don't know much about the specific situation in the UK, but I can confirm >> BSD is not well represented in the media. > > "We'd like to print more BSD articles but nobody is submitting any." > (Standard reply at German LinuxTag when you ask the press people about > this.) Some things that might be neat to see articles about in the next six months as 7.0 approaches: - The FreeBSD ZFS port, especially in a week's time or so once it's committed. Introduction to ZFS highlighting its features, some tutorial content on using it with FreeBSD, etc. I've had countless people approach me over the last month at various UNIX and BSD conferences, and they're very excited about ZFS on FreeBSD. In fact, it's frequently cited as a reason to try FreeBSD instead of Linux. - Using the pf firewall and its associated features (pfsync, carp, etc) with FreeBSD. OpenBSD successfully makes a lot of noise about the availability of these features on their platform, and for good reason: they're great features. We should be making more noise about them being available on our platform -- especially given our SMP network stack support. This might be best backed up by a bit of measurement and optimization. - FreeBSD audit support -- we've had some articles on this already, but it's worth a few more. Integrated audit with portable APIs and file format set us apart from Linux, and there are some nice opportunities to bring in new volunteers to develop audit tracking and management tools. Support in 6.2 is considered experimental, but we'd like it to be production-quality in 6.3. - FreeBSD SCTP support -- SCTP has some really great protocol features, and FreeBSD 7.x will ship with it. This is a chance to highlight some exciting new technology, and the fact that FreeBSD has a reference implementation of it. - FreeBSD support for sun4v and sun4v technology generally -- again, a chance to highlight FreeBSD as being involved in a cutting edge technology platform. - FreeBSD and high SMP scalability -- now that many of the patches used to accomplish very high database scalability on FreeBSD are going into the base CVS tree for inclusion in 7.x, it would be really interesting to see an article on the process by which the FreeBSD team measured and optimized FreeBSD performance for 8+ core systems, from new thread libraries to changes in kernel synchronization, time management, scheduler, etc. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 17:05:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3662F16A416 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-advocacy@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F8213C4C4 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-advocacy@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HZ8Uv-0006B9-1O for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:38:13 +0200 Received: from 89-172-58-41.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.58.41]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:38:13 +0200 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-58-41.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:38:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:37:52 +0200 Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <4603D9FF.4070100@xk7.net> <4603E522.2090901@praxisvermittlung24.de> <20070404140323.C18288@fledge.watson.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBDC0857DAB0F8EC00CB19619" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-58-41.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: <20070404140323.C18288@fledge.watson.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.3.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Lack of FreeBSD coverage in the UK media X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:05:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBDC0857DAB0F8EC00CB19619 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert Watson wrote: > Some things that might be neat to see articles about in the next six > months as 7.0 approaches: I've had quite a few hits on my little summary "what's cooking for 7.0" page, so I concurr the people are interested. I suggest to make an official section on the www.freebsd.org web which will host these kind of articles. Sort of tied into the release system, so in addition to the usual "Release notes", "Errata", "Supported platforms" and other documents, each .0 version would have a "Highlights" section (one or, preferebly, more pages) with a high-level to mid-level description of the new (non arch-specific) features, presented as "selling points" for the whole RELENG branch. I know that there's a short paragraph or two about new features in the release notes currently, and I think this should stay, but I really think there's a need for longer articles hosted on the official (i.e. not on third-party) web site. 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Blake Dondlinger blake@devstart.com Office 708-428-4611 Fax 708-590-0762 From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 09:30:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1966716A408 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA6113C4C7 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E4947019; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 05:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 05:30:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070406052849.J30801@fledge.watson.org> References: <4603D9FF.4070100@xk7.net> <4603E522.2090901@praxisvermittlung24.de> <20070404140323.C18288@fledge.watson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lack of FreeBSD coverage in the UK media X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:30:22 -0000 On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Ivan Voras wrote: > Robert Watson wrote: > >> Some things that might be neat to see articles about in the next six months >> as 7.0 approaches: > > I've had quite a few hits on my little summary "what's cooking for 7.0" > page, so I concurr the people are interested. > > I suggest to make an official section on the www.freebsd.org web which will > host these kind of articles. Sort of tied into the release system, so in > addition to the usual "Release notes", "Errata", "Supported platforms" and > other documents, each .0 version would have a "Highlights" section (one or, > preferebly, more pages) with a high-level to mid-level description of the > new (non arch-specific) features, presented as "selling points" for the > whole RELENG branch. > > I know that there's a short paragraph or two about new features in the > release notes currently, and I think this should stay, but I really think > there's a need for longer articles hosted on the official (i.e. not on > third-party) web site. > > If this passes in some form, I volunteer to write about the storage-oriented > things such as gjournal, ZFS & similar. I agree. The release notes are a great technical reference, but they are hardly marketing pieces. It would be good to see media- and human-friendly articles highlighting the new features in a release (and their importance), as well as articles on specific topics. The same thing is true of the status reports vs. commits, btw: sometimes making a list sorted by interest as opposed to by integration date is important. :-) Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 09:51:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0283C16A402; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DAB13C455; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060BE46E9B; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 05:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 05:51:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070406054948.J30801@fledge.watson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: pjd@FreeBSD.org Subject: ZFS committed to the FreeBSD base. (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:51:42 -0000 Now would be a great time to do some articles on this, speaking of which. :-) Pawel's e-mail doesn't make a great start for an advocacy piece because it fails to say what's good/important about ZFS, so the first task is to figure that out and construct a news article along these lines. For example, it has volume-management, self-healing, and the word "enterprise" can be tossed in easily. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 04:57:00 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: ZFS committed to the FreeBSD base. Hi. I'm happy to inform that the ZFS file system is now part of the FreeBSD operating system. ZFS is available in the HEAD branch and will be available in FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE as an experimental feature. Commit log: Please welcome ZFS - The last word in file systems. ZFS file system was ported from OpenSolaris operating system. The code in under CDDL license. I'd like to thank all SUN developers that created this great piece of software. Supported by: Wheel LTD (http://www.wheel.pl/) Supported by: The FreeBSD Foundation (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/) Supported by: Sentex (http://www.sentex.net/) Limitations. Currently ZFS is only compiled as kernel module and is only available for i386 architecture. Amd64 should be available very soon, the other archs will come later, as we implement needed atomic operations. Missing functionality. - We don't have iSCSI target daemon in the tree, so sharing ZVOLs via iSCSI is also not supported at this point. This should be fixed in the future, we may also add support for sharing ZVOLs over ggate. - There is no support for ACLs and extended attributes. - There is no support for booting off of ZFS file system. Other than that, ZFS should be fully-functional. Enjoy! -- Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 16:48:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F31C16A40D; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A968713C45A; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l36GPKmI002544; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 11:25:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4616746A.4030705@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 11:25:14 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: <20070406054948.J30801@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20070406054948.J30801@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org, pjd@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS committed to the FreeBSD base. (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:48:52 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > > Now would be a great time to do some articles on this, speaking of > which. :-) Pawel's e-mail doesn't make a great start for an advocacy > piece because it fails to say what's good/important about ZFS, so the > first task is to figure that out and construct a news article along > these lines. For example, it has volume-management, self-healing, and > the word "enterprise" can be tossed in easily. > > Robert N M Watson > Computer Laboratory > University of Cambridge And "huge capacity". Well, 'tis definitely a Good Friday, then :-) HEADS-UP: Slashdotted. We'll see if they post (dunno why they wouldn't). Kevin Kinsey > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 04:57:00 +0200 > From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek > To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org > Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > Subject: ZFS committed to the FreeBSD base. > > Hi. > > I'm happy to inform that the ZFS file system is now part of the FreeBSD > operating system. ZFS is available in the HEAD branch and will be > available in FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE as an experimental feature. > > Commit log: > > Please welcome ZFS - The last word in file systems. > > ZFS file system was ported from OpenSolaris operating system. The code > in under CDDL license. > > I'd like to thank all SUN developers that created this great piece of > software. > > Supported by: Wheel LTD (http://www.wheel.pl/) > Supported by: The FreeBSD Foundation > (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/) > Supported by: Sentex (http://www.sentex.net/) > > Limitations. > > Currently ZFS is only compiled as kernel module and is only available > for i386 architecture. Amd64 should be available very soon, the other > archs will come later, as we implement needed atomic operations. > > Missing functionality. > > - We don't have iSCSI target daemon in the tree, so sharing ZVOLs via > iSCSI is also not supported at this point. This should be fixed in > the future, we may also add support for sharing ZVOLs over ggate. > - There is no support for ACLs and extended attributes. > - There is no support for booting off of ZFS file system. > > Other than that, ZFS should be fully-functional. > > Enjoy! > -- Perhaps the biggest disappointments were the ones you expected anyway. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 16:57:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F9216A401; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from supernews.unixathome.org (supernews.unixathome.org [216.168.29.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D69C13C455; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by supernews.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190471702F; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:57:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from supernews.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (supernews.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d2cdvsvGhjsB; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [74.104.200.201]) by supernews.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2471702A; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.55.0.99] (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4834FB851; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 12:57:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Kevin Kinsey Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 12:56:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <46164384.7702.8932D16@dan.langille.org> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4616746A.4030705@daleco.biz> References: <20070406054948.J30801@fledge.watson.org>, <4616746A.4030705@daleco.biz> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org, pjd@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS committed to the FreeBSD base. (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:57:36 -0000 On 6 Apr 2007 at 11:25, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Robert Watson wrote: > > > > Now would be a great time to do some articles on this, speaking of > > which. :-) Pawel's e-mail doesn't make a great start for an advocacy > > piece because it fails to say what's good/important about ZFS, so the > > first task is to figure that out and construct a news article along > > these lines. For example, it has volume-management, self-healing, and > > the word "enterprise" can be tossed in easily. > > > And "huge capacity". Well, 'tis definitely a Good Friday, then :-) > > HEADS-UP: Slashdotted. We'll see if they post (dunno why > they wouldn't). Get it posted elsewhere first. Then /. is more likely to pick it up. Try BSDNews, OSNews, etc. -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php PGCon - The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.pgcon.org/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 18:57:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8024716A405 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A2813C4B0 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l36IveVk003740; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:57:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4616981E.3010605@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:57:34 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Langille References: <20070406054948.J30801@fledge.watson.org>, <4616746A.4030705@daleco.biz> <46164384.7702.8932D16@dan.langille.org> In-Reply-To: <46164384.7702.8932D16@dan.langille.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS committed to the FreeBSD base. (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:57:49 -0000 Dan Langille wrote: > On 6 Apr 2007 at 11:25, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> Robert Watson wrote: >>> Now would be a great time to do some articles on this, speaking of >>> which. :-) Pawel's e-mail doesn't make a great start for an advocacy >>> piece because it fails to say what's good/important about ZFS, so the >>> first task is to figure that out and construct a news article along >>> these lines. For example, it has volume-management, self-healing, and >>> the word "enterprise" can be tossed in easily. >> >> And "huge capacity". Well, 'tis definitely a Good Friday, then :-) >> >> HEADS-UP: Slashdotted. We'll see if they post (dunno why >> they wouldn't). > > Get it posted elsewhere first. Then /. is more likely to pick it up. > Try BSDNews, OSNews, etc. Already on those two. BSDNews dated today, no timestamp. OSNews about the same time as I hit /. -- of course, "still pending" there. Thanks! Kevin Kinsey -- A sequel is an admission that you've been reduced to imitating yourself. -- Don Marquis From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 11:32:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6054016A402 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@xk7.net) Received: from clarity.mcc.ac.uk (clarity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B8F13C4E5 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@xk7.net) Received: from kelvin.its.manchester.ac.uk ([130.88.25.195]) by clarity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ha99Z-0002pl-Kr for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:32:21 +0100 Received: from [82.153.166.36] (port=2483 helo=[192.168.0.2]) by kelvin.its.manchester.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1Ha99Z-0005eZ-Ah for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:32:21 +0100 Message-ID: <46178143.2080100@xk7.net> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:32:19 +0100 From: Paul Waring User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <4603D9FF.4070100@xk7.net> <4603E522.2090901@praxisvermittlung24.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: Paul Waring from ([192.168.0.2]) [82.153.166.36]:2483 X-Authenticated-From: Paul.Waring@postgrad.manchester.ac.uk X-UoM: Scanned by the University Mail System. See http://www.itservices.manchester.ac.uk/email/filtering/information/ for details. Subject: Re: Lack of FreeBSD coverage in the UK media X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 11:32:23 -0000 Christian Weisgerber wrote: > "We'd like to print more BSD articles but nobody is submitting any." > (Standard reply at German LinuxTag when you ask the press people > about this.) Surely there must be a reason why people aren't writing/submitting BSD articles though? Perhaps they don't think BSD articles are wanted (a catch-22 situation I guess in which no one sees any articles for BSD so they think that such works aren't wanted so they don't bother submitting any...), but that is a hurdle that could easily be passed once a couple of articles had been accepted by one of the main Linux magazines. Paul