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Lenovo is asking this at <http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=3D98>
and, yes!, FreeBSD is a proposed choice.
ATM, the first choice is "Anyone that refuses to carry binary-only
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> and, yes!, FreeBSD is a proposed choice.
... listed as a Linux distro. :|
Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87
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>> Lenovo is asking this at <http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98>
>> and, yes!, FreeBSD is a proposed choice.
>
> ... listed as a Linux distro. :|
I always take "Linux" as a proxy for "Open-Source OS" in these type of polls.
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> > Lenovo is asking this at <http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98>
> > and, yes!, FreeBSD is a proposed choice.
>
> ... listed as a Linux distro. :|
I bet if it got a substantial showing in that poll more people would
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Maybe not may more -- but it'd be a step in the right direction.
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> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:02:11 +0200
> > Thierry Thomas <thierry@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
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> >> Lenovo is asking this at <http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98>
> >> and, yes!, FreeBSD is a proposed choice.
> >
> > ... listed as a Linux distro. :|
>
> I always take "Linux" as a proxy for "Open-Source OS" in these type of polls.
It appears that anyone can add a new choice to the poll.
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There will be an open source event on the 12th and 13th of October in
Lisbon, Portugal, called the "I F=F3rum Software Livre" [1]
Among other things FreeBSD will be mentioned (there's one talk about
FreeBSD at the moment) and I'm thinking of making one about FreeBSD 7
and it's major improvement: Performance.
I've already collected some points for reference:
- Bind performance: http://people.freebsd.org/~dougb/bind-resperf.png
- Jeff Roberson blog and scheduler improvements
- Kris Kennaway Scalability Update:
http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/Scalability%20Update.pdf
- Kris Kennaway MySQL vs Postgres on FreeBSD:
http://obsecurity.dyndns.org/sysbench-write.png (offline)
- http://blog.insidesystems.net/articles/2007/04/11/postgresql-scaling-on-6=
-2-and-7-0
I was hoping to get more information and/or benchmarks FreeBDS CURRENT
vs FreeBSD 6, FreeBSD vs Linux,etc that I could use to make a showoff
of FreeBSD :)
I'm cc'ing Kris to see if he can get his machine online and ask for
permission to use parts of his documentation.
[1] http://www.softwarelivre.com.pt/index.php
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 05:49:30PM -0700, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
> Larry Rosenman wrote:
> >I always take "Linux" as a proxy for "Open-Source OS" in these type
> >of polls.
>
> Linux: The xerox of the open-source OS community.
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Joao Barros wrote:
> There will be an open source event on the 12th and 13th of October in
> Lisbon, Portugal, called the "I Fórum Software Livre" [1]
> Among other things FreeBSD will be mentioned (there's one talk about
> FreeBSD at the moment) and I'm thinking of making one about FreeBSD 7
> and it's major improvement: Performance.
>
> I've already collected some points for reference:
> - Bind performance: http://people.freebsd.org/~dougb/bind-resperf.png
> - Jeff Roberson blog and scheduler improvements
> - Kris Kennaway Scalability Update:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/Scalability%20Update.pdf
> - Kris Kennaway MySQL vs Postgres on FreeBSD:
> http://obsecurity.dyndns.org/sysbench-write.png (offline)
> - http://blog.insidesystems.net/articles/2007/04/11/postgresql-scaling-on-6-2-and-7-0
>
> I was hoping to get more information and/or benchmarks FreeBDS CURRENT
> vs FreeBSD 6, FreeBSD vs Linux,etc that I could use to make a showoff
> of FreeBSD :)
>
> I'm cc'ing Kris to see if he can get his machine online and ask for
> permission to use parts of his documentation.
>
> [1] http://www.softwarelivre.com.pt/index.php
Unfortunately the machine is somewhere in the middle of the atlantic
ocean at the moment (I forgot to transfer the website elsewhere before
shipping). Well, I have the hard drive with me but don't have a way to
access it.
Kris
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> Lenovo is asking this at <http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=3D98>
> and, yes!, FreeBSD is a proposed choice.
>
> ATM, the first choice is "Anyone that refuses to carry binary-only
> drivers, so that all others will also benefit, as it will require
> documented hardware", which is also a very good choice.
I of course like source too,
but this rather destroys the force of that argument:
On FreeBSD-6.2-RELEASE:
man nve
then go use find on /usr/src. it's a BLOB < Linux & MS compat
PS there's source coming in from elsewhere now for
man nfe
in 7-current & patches for stable & 6.2
Summary: binary only doesnt seem to have precluded FreeBSD in case of nve,
though again, yes we all prefer source avail. too :-)
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"Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.org> wrote:
> > Lenovo is asking this at
> > <http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=3D98> and, yes!, FreeBSD is
> > a proposed choice.
> >
> > ATM, the first choice is "Anyone that refuses to carry binary-only
> > drivers, so that all others will also benefit, as it will require
> > documented hardware", which is also a very good choice.
>
> I of course like source too,
> but this rather destroys the force of that argument:
> On FreeBSD-6.2-RELEASE:
> man nve
> then go use find on /usr/src. it's a BLOB < Linux & MS compat
> PS there's source coming in from elsewhere now for
> man nfe
> in 7-current & patches for stable & 6.2
>
> Summary: binary only doesnt seem to have precluded FreeBSD in case of
> nve, though again, yes we all prefer source avail. too :-)
Yup, the only mainstream operating systems / distributions that match
"Anyone that refuses to carry binary-only drivers, so that all others
will also benefit, as it will require documented hardware" are Debian
GNU/Linux and OpenBSD.
Jona
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