From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 26 11:08:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF60216A408 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5E313C4AE for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2QB828W049197 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:08:02 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l2QB81bi049193 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:08:01 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:08:01 GMT Message-Id: <200703261108.l2QB81bi049193@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: linimon set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:08:02 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o alpha/75317 alpha [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha 1 problem total. Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f alpha/59116 alpha [ntfs] mount_ntfs of a Windows 2000-formatted fs cause o alpha/61940 alpha Can't disklabel new disk from FreeBSD/alpha 5.2-RELEAS o alpha/61973 alpha Machine Check on boot-up of AlphaServer 2100A RM s alpha/67626 alpha X crashes an alpha machine, resulting reboot o alpha/85346 alpha PREEMPTION causes unstability in Alpha4000 SMP kernel o alpha/105134 alpha 'panic: lockmgr: thread ... not exclusive lock owner' 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o alpha/25284 alpha PC164 won't reboot with graphics console o alpha/38031 alpha osf1.ko not loaded during boot-time of linux-emu enabl o alpha/48676 alpha Changing the baud rate of serial consoles for Alpha sy o alpha/50868 alpha fd0 floppy device is not mapped into /dev (XP1000) Fre o alpha/66478 alpha unexpected machine check: panic for 4.9, 4.10, 5.2 or o alpha/67903 alpha hw.chipset.memory: 1099511627776 - thats way to much : 6 problems total. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 26 15:13:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D69316A405 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CEF13C46A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2QEn5CZ012378 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:49:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: alpha@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:48:52 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703261048.52874.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:49:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2931/Mon Mar 26 03:43:40 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Subject: bus dma fixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:13:39 -0000 Can folks please try this patch (warning, not compile tested) to fix some issues with bus_dma and hopefully fix ATA DMA on Alpha 6.x? http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/ata_alpha_dma.patch It fixes the bus_dma code so that bus_dmamap_load() uses _bus_dmamap_load_buffer(). This results in some fixes as noted in PR 75317 where bus_dmamap_load() wasn't honoring the maximum segment size for example. It also now bounces buffers that aren't properly aligned. It also now supports bounce pages for mbufs and uio's. As a sledgehammer fix for ATA on alpha, it limits the maximum segment size to 8k for ata(4) on alpha. Does anyone have any more details on the PYXIS bug? For example, does it only affect ata(4) or does it affect any DMA in the system? If the latter, I would rather add a check into the bus dma code to trunc maxsegsize to 8k for all tags on broken systems. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 26 18:01:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A9516A402 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB0413C484 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2QI1Emo013689 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:01:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:01:03 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200703261048.52874.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200703261048.52874.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703261401.03899.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:01:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2933/Mon Mar 26 11:26:11 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Subject: Re: bus dma fixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:01:17 -0000 On Monday 26 March 2007 10:48:52 am John Baldwin wrote: > Can folks please try this patch (warning, not compile tested) to fix some > issues with bus_dma and hopefully fix ATA DMA on Alpha 6.x? > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/ata_alpha_dma.patch > > It fixes the bus_dma code so that bus_dmamap_load() uses > _bus_dmamap_load_buffer(). This results in some fixes as noted in PR 75317 > where bus_dmamap_load() wasn't honoring the maximum segment size for > example. It also now bounces buffers that aren't properly aligned. It also > now supports bounce pages for mbufs and uio's. As a sledgehammer fix for > ATA on alpha, it limits the maximum segment size to 8k for ata(4) on alpha. > Does anyone have any more details on the PYXIS bug? For example, does it > only affect ata(4) or does it affect any DMA in the system? If the latter, > I would rather add a check into the bus dma code to trunc maxsegsize to 8k > for all tags on broken systems. Ok, I've updated the patch so that it no longer patches ata(4) but instead enfources an 8k boundary on all DMA tags on affected systems. However, this will only fix cia(4) systems. Other systems not found by the current check need to be updated to set busdma_pyxis_bug in their chipset code, and you can test if this fixes problems by just setting that variable to 1 on other systems where it isn't already set. I know that the pr (75317) mentions that some PC164 systems have the same issue but aren't detected as broken currently. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 26 20:36:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22B516A407; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D19813C487; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (remko@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2QKajiV039745; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:36:45 GMT (envelope-from remko@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from remko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l2QKaix7039741; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:36:44 GMT (envelope-from remko) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:36:44 GMT From: Remko Lodder Message-Id: <200703262036.l2QKaix7039741@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hadarai@bsd.ee, remko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:36:45 -0000 Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: remko State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:36:44 UTC 2007 State-Changed-Why: alpha is no longer supported and time will not be invested to get things fixed. Our apologies for our lack of attention for this issue. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=75317 From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 26 22:04:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CFB16A400; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CE113C44C; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2QM4SHN015863; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:04:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:04:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200703262036.l2QKaix7039741@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200703262036.l2QKaix7039741@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703261804.12854.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:04:28 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2934/Mon Mar 26 15:04:46 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Remko Lodder , hadarai@bsd.ee Subject: Re: alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:04:32 -0000 On Monday 26 March 2007 04:36:44 pm Remko Lodder wrote: > Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: remko > State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:36:44 UTC 2007 > State-Changed-Why: > alpha is no longer supported and time will not be invested to get things > fixed. Our apologies for our lack of attention for this issue. What the heck?!!! I just posted a patch to the list for this TODAY. Please reopen this bug. Alpha may not be in 7.0, but since 6.x is still a supported branch it is still a supported platform, and fixes that go into 6.x are still very welcome. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 26 22:32:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2B516A401; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idart@performancedesign.no) Received: from mail.performancedesign.no (238-59-118-87.mtulink.net [87.118.59.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C4113C465; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idart@performancedesign.no) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (blackbird.performancedesign.no [172.18.42.1]) by mail.performancedesign.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450F920F47; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:13:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4608458E.40405@performancedesign.no> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:13:34 +0200 From: Idar Tollefsen Organization: Performance Design User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <200703262036.l2QKaix7039741@freefall.freebsd.org> <200703261804.12854.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200703261804.12854.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Remko Lodder , hadarai@bsd.ee Subject: Re: alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:32:00 -0000 > On Monday 26 March 2007 04:36:44 pm Remko Lodder wrote: >> Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha >> >> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed >> State-Changed-By: remko >> State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:36:44 UTC 2007 >> State-Changed-Why: >> alpha is no longer supported and time will not be invested to get things >> fixed. Our apologies for our lack of attention for this issue. > > What the heck?!!! I just posted a patch to the list for this TODAY. Please > reopen this bug. Alpha may not be in 7.0, but since 6.x is still a supported > branch it is still a supported platform, and fixes that go into 6.x are still > very welcome. Yes, I sort of wondered what was going on. We get these reminders about bug reports filed against FreeBSD/Alpha sent to us at freebsd-alpha@ once a month and when someone actually DOES something about it, the bug is closed before the patch can tested and committed? Please don't do that. I for one appreciate the work and effort, John. - Idar From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 27 05:39:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687EA16A402; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA1D13C4B8; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (remko@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2R5dYFf017192; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:39:34 GMT (envelope-from remko@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from remko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l2R5dXvd017188; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:39:33 GMT (envelope-from remko) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:39:33 GMT From: Remko Lodder Message-Id: <200703270539.l2R5dXvd017188@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hadarai@bsd.ee, remko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:39:34 -0000 Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha State-Changed-From-To: closed->open State-Changed-By: remko State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 27 05:28:25 UTC 2007 State-Changed-Why: People are actively working on this, reopen the ticket (Thanks John, again my apologies) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=75317 From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 27 06:11:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E59216A404 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D17B13C44C for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D75C92FD30; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07605-07; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:43:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from redqueen.evilcoder-services.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DB092FD09; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:43:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: by redqueen.evilcoder-services.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5D4C166B5; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:43:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:43:34 +0200 From: Remko Lodder To: Idar Tollefsen Message-ID: <20070327054334.GL58115@elvandar.org> References: <200703262036.l2QKaix7039741@freefall.freebsd.org> <200703261804.12854.jhb@freebsd.org> <4608458E.40405@performancedesign.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4608458E.40405@performancedesign.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 at elvandar.org Cc: Remko Lodder , hadarai@bsd.ee, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:11:45 -0000 On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:13:34AM +0200, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > >On Monday 26 March 2007 04:36:44 pm Remko Lodder wrote: > >>Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha > >> > >>State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > >>State-Changed-By: remko > >>State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:36:44 UTC 2007 > >>State-Changed-Why: > >>alpha is no longer supported and time will not be invested to get things > >>fixed. Our apologies for our lack of attention for this issue. > > > >What the heck?!!! I just posted a patch to the list for this TODAY. > >Please reopen this bug. Alpha may not be in 7.0, but since 6.x is still a > >supported branch it is still a supported platform, and fixes that go into > >6.x are still very welcome. > > Yes, I sort of wondered what was going on. We get these reminders about > bug reports filed against FreeBSD/Alpha sent to us at freebsd-alpha@ > once a month and when someone actually DOES something about it, the bug > is closed before the patch can tested and committed? > > Please don't do that. > > I for one appreciate the work and effort, John. > > > - Idar Don't misunderstand me, I also appriciate the work of John and the other committers; though most alpha PR's are stale and unlikely to get resolved anytime soon (read: never). I dont want to uphold something that isn't going to get fixed, and yes that would mean stepping on some people's toes from time to time, in that case we can actively do something about the specific tickets while the others well just fade out. Thanks for the feedback though, the ticket had been reopened and apologies had been made in the ticket. Cheers, remko -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org /* Quis custodiet ipsos custodes */ From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 27 14:54:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AEA16A401; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C661913C44B; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2REsG43023626; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:54:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Remko Lodder Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:26:28 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200703262036.l2QKaix7039741@freefall.freebsd.org> <4608458E.40405@performancedesign.no> <20070327054334.GL58115@elvandar.org> In-Reply-To: <20070327054334.GL58115@elvandar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703271026.28933.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:54:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2938/Tue Mar 27 06:07:03 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Remko Lodder , hadarai@bsd.ee, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:54:39 -0000 On Tuesday 27 March 2007 01:43:34 am Remko Lodder wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:13:34AM +0200, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > > >On Monday 26 March 2007 04:36:44 pm Remko Lodder wrote: > > >>Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha > > >> > > >>State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > >>State-Changed-By: remko > > >>State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:36:44 UTC 2007 > > >>State-Changed-Why: > > >>alpha is no longer supported and time will not be invested to get things > > >>fixed. Our apologies for our lack of attention for this issue. > > > > > >What the heck?!!! I just posted a patch to the list for this TODAY. > > >Please reopen this bug. Alpha may not be in 7.0, but since 6.x is still a > > >supported branch it is still a supported platform, and fixes that go into > > >6.x are still very welcome. > > > > Yes, I sort of wondered what was going on. We get these reminders about > > bug reports filed against FreeBSD/Alpha sent to us at freebsd-alpha@ > > once a month and when someone actually DOES something about it, the bug > > is closed before the patch can tested and committed? > > > > Please don't do that. > > > > I for one appreciate the work and effort, John. > > > > > > - Idar > > Don't misunderstand me, I also appriciate the work of John and the other > committers; though most alpha PR's are stale and unlikely to get resolved > anytime soon (read: never). I dont want to uphold something that isn't > going to get fixed, and yes that would mean stepping on some people's toes > from time to time, in that case we can actively do something about the > specific tickets while the others well just fade out. > > Thanks for the feedback though, the ticket had been reopened and apologies > had been made in the ticket. I think it was a bit of a misunderstanding actually and I might have overreacted a bit. Apparently there's been some noise in the PR + core team about closing Alpha PR's and that just happened to collide with my finally sending a patch out for testing yesterday. :) If there is a decision that is made wrt Alpha PR's, it would be helpful to at least have some sort of announcement made on the alpha@ mailing list. I think we should hold off on doing too much de-support of Alpha though until we truly de-support it when we stop supporting 6.x. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 27 20:43:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AB016A408; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFA213C483; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (obsolete.xs4all.nl [82.95.250.254]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2RKh8NT066218; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:43:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l2RKgg5v064075; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:42:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l2RKgg6X064074; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:42:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:42:41 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20070327204241.GA64053@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200703262036.l2QKaix7039741@freefall.freebsd.org> <4608458E.40405@performancedesign.no> <20070327054334.GL58115@elvandar.org> <200703271026.28933.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703271026.28933.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Remko Lodder , Remko Lodder , hadarai@bsd.ee, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:43:11 -0000 On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 10:26:28AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote.. > On Tuesday 27 March 2007 01:43:34 am Remko Lodder wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:13:34AM +0200, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > > > >On Monday 26 March 2007 04:36:44 pm Remko Lodder wrote: > > > >>Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha > > > >> > > > >>State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > > >>State-Changed-By: remko > > > >>State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:36:44 UTC 2007 > > > >>State-Changed-Why: > > > >>alpha is no longer supported and time will not be invested to get things > > > >>fixed. Our apologies for our lack of attention for this issue. > > > > > > > >What the heck?!!! I just posted a patch to the list for this TODAY. > > > >Please reopen this bug. Alpha may not be in 7.0, but since 6.x is still > a > > > >supported branch it is still a supported platform, and fixes that go into > > > >6.x are still very welcome. > > > > > > Yes, I sort of wondered what was going on. We get these reminders about > > > bug reports filed against FreeBSD/Alpha sent to us at freebsd-alpha@ > > > once a month and when someone actually DOES something about it, the bug > > > is closed before the patch can tested and committed? > > > > > > Please don't do that. > > > > > > I for one appreciate the work and effort, John. > > > > > > > > > - Idar > > > > Don't misunderstand me, I also appriciate the work of John and the other > > committers; though most alpha PR's are stale and unlikely to get resolved > > anytime soon (read: never). I dont want to uphold something that isn't > > going to get fixed, and yes that would mean stepping on some people's toes > > from time to time, in that case we can actively do something about the > > specific tickets while the others well just fade out. > > > > Thanks for the feedback though, the ticket had been reopened and apologies > > had been made in the ticket. > > I think it was a bit of a misunderstanding actually and I might have > overreacted a bit. Apparently there's been some noise in the PR + core team > about closing Alpha PR's and that just happened to collide with my finally > sending a patch out for testing yesterday. :) If there is a decision that is > made wrt Alpha PR's, it would be helpful to at least have some sort of > announcement made on the alpha@ mailing list. I think we should hold off on > doing too much de-support of Alpha though until we truly de-support it when > we stop supporting 6.x. That is still the official story. Also true is that most alpha PRs still in the system have been there for a long time. Some of them are quite hardware model dependent, just to complicate matters. Dunno.. I'm too biased with regards to the Alpha port deorbiting to comment further. Wilko -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org