From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 30 09:01:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9834B16A481; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD6113C45E; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5EE52.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.238.82]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B542E060; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:03:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4BD5B4817; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:03:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2U83IU9032999; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:03:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:03:18 +0200 Message-ID: <20070330100318.wbqww1rilcksskok@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:03:18 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Dag-Erling =?utf-8?b?U23DuHJncmF2?= References: <86648johpj.fsf@dwp.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86648johpj.fsf@dwp.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.564, required 8, BAYES_00 -15.00, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME 0.00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO 0.14, MIME_8BIT_HEADER 0.30) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, amd64@freebsd.org, Igor Subject: Re: nx-bit and TPM X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:01:03 -0000 Quoting Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav (from Thu, 29 Mar 2007 =20 23:36:24 +0200): > Igor writes: >> I'm was looking through handbook and wikipedia and it appears FreeBSD >> doesn't support hardware (nor software) nx bit. >> There also doesn't seem to be any support for TPM (Trusted Platform Modul= e). > > I believe NX support was never implemented because Intel's version of > AMD64 didn't support it. As for TPM, I don't see the point. This should not stop us in using it on amd64 if available. I think one =20 of the problem was/is the lack of time/man-power. So if someone comes =20 up with a good (enough) implementation which works on our supported =20 hardware, I don't think it will be rejected. Regarding TPM: there are good an bad uses for it. As our policy is to =20 provide possibilities and not to force policies on our users, I don't =20 see a reason why we will not incorporate good code regarding this. I =20 also think that we don't have it, as nobody needed it or wasn't =20 allowed to contribute code. But all this is better suited for arch@ I think (or maybe amd64@ in =20 case of NX). Bye, Alexander. --=20 "If a camel flies, no one laughs if it doesn't get very far." =09=09-- Paul White http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137