From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 14 08:56:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE93316A417; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=DyAQF7=PI=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B8713C442; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=DyAQF7=PI=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan10.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.10] helo=mailscan10.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1Igynq-0001Es-QE; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:26:27 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1Igynq-00049v-Ak; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:26:26 -0400 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 08SS1Y0010ASqTN0000000; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:26:26 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: 08SS1Y0010ASqTN0000000 Received: from c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.206.161.17] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1Igynq-0008PJ-2m; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:26:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:26:29 -0500 From: "Zane C.B." To: "Kevin - Your.Org" Message-ID: <20071014032629.44e4cdf2@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <2C263E0F-1231-4F73-A820-1A3265B72078@your.org> References: <20071012170341.72b8b888.vlady@gbservices.biz> <470F9175.3020002@FreeBSD.org> <20071012183534.bacd989b.vlady@gbservices.biz> <470F9BA9.5080606@FreeBSD.org> <2C263E0F-1231-4F73-A820-1A3265B72078@your.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: "Zane C.B." X-EN-OrigIP: 98.206.161.17 X-EN-OrigHost: c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net Cc: Vladimir Terziev , Kris Kennaway , Stefan Esser , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video memory as swap under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:56:58 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:54:23 -0500 "Kevin - Your.Org" wrote: > > On Oct 12, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Stefan Esser wrote: > > > Vladimir Terziev schrieb: > >> You're right, > >> > >> the swap, typically configured, is much more than the > >> amount of the video memory, but in fact the swap is just a > >> reserv, which ensures continuation of the normal operations on > >> the machine, at times of peak loads. > >> In our days the amount of RAM placed in the servers is > >> so much, that the swap, in fact, is rarely used at all and a > >> very small amount of it (several MB) is used. In that cases > >> having a very fast swap space in the Video RAM, in addition to > >> the disk swap, would be a good solution. > > > > If you have a video card with so much excess memory, that you > > can use it > > for swap, then I wonder whether the video card has not been much > > too expensive ;-) > > > > How about spending $25 for another Gigabyte of RAM (real RAM, > > not SWAP) > > instead? > > > > I'm not commenting on if this is a good idea or not either way, > but at least one vendor of servers that we've been buying from is > now including 128 or 256MB of video ram(not UMA, real video ram) > embedded on the motherboard now. > > I thought it was odd too, until I asked our sales rep. The 8MB ATI > chipset they used to use would have disqualified them from being > "Vista Capable". > > So, whether we want it or not, we're getting at least 128MB of > video memory on our servers now. I'd thought about trying to use it > for something, but decided it wasn't worth the effort. :) I still doubt this will become common as I don't see many servers going in with Vista on it.