From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 08:41:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC2716A418; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from Daffy.timing.com (smtp.timing.com [206.168.13.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3776013C4CC; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from gromit.timing.com (gromit.timing.com [206.168.13.209]) by Daffy.timing.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB28fKxc094407; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 01:41:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from gromit.timing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gromit.timing.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB28fFHh069898; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 01:41:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jhein@gromit.timing.com) Received: (from jhein@localhost) by gromit.timing.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id lB28fExX069895; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 01:41:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jhein) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18258.28586.544534.576946@gromit.timing.com> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 01:41:14 -0700 From: John E Hein To: Alexander Leidinger In-Reply-To: <20071201155115.5c6143a4@deskjail> References: <20071103210632.GB72327@amilo.cenkes.org> <1194124724.10479.35.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20071105204645.GE64094@amilo.cenkes.org> <20071116110040.247fnnkzk08gc0sc@webmail.leidinger.net> <20071130192912.GB1524@amilo.cenkes.org> <20071130210120.1c8b3150@deskjail> <18256.31317.682880.921587@gromit.timing.com> <20071201155115.5c6143a4@deskjail> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.99.1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on Daffy.timing.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux-pango/cairo vs firefox/seamonkey/flock X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:41:21 -0000 Alexander Leidinger wrote at 15:51 +0100 on Dec 1, 2007: > Regarding the package-spec... the dependency is specific to a > particular lib, the spec in the patch just says >=0. I'm a little bit > uncomfortable regarding this. When we want to switch to a new linux > base, we need to change most of the libs, and then the dependency > doesn't match anymore (which means an overlooked ports is catched on > pointyhat or on the tinderboxes). While we can add some text to > UPDATING, I would like to have the dependency explicitly recorded in > the port. Unlike the FreeBSD native ports, we have a more strict > dependency regarding libs in the linux ports. I agree that the package > spec will work for a lot of users, but with my experience with > maintaining the linux ports and providing help for them since > linux_base-8 I suggest to follow the practice we have currently in the > linux infrastructure ports, as we can circumvent some pitfalls this way. You don't have to specify a package >=0. It can be a specific package rev. (yes, >=0 is probably a bit over-broad). Specifying a specific file in that package as the RUN_DEPENDS key (such as ${LINUXBASE}/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0) is really just a different way of doing things, and it doesn't capture dependencies that are more than just that lib (for instance, what if a different required lib that happens to be part of the same package changes, but the one specified in the dependency remains the same?). I also dislike the hard-coded absolute pathname (for other unrelated reasons). In one sense you can have finer control by specifying a package rev than just one file in that package. And with the advent of lib versioning, keying on a .so.N will not help you if you want to capture the need for a new rev of a package, but N doesn't change. Those are just some "counterpoint" thoughts to look at things from a different perspective. I would probably lean toward using the "package spec" way of doing things and certainly not reject it just because it's not the way things are currently done. Maybe it'd be worth trying to use that way for a bit, at least for this patch if not the rest of the linux ports, and see if it winds up being better or not. From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 09:09:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0F516A473; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDE213C4CC; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A57251.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.114.81]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F6B2E2FF; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:08:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from deskjail (deskjail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.109]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB6077D26; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:07:56 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1196586476; bh=b+gTzEKR75v/Z0uVZDcJXnvEl3e9yflwc Y9r5qYytpY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Fhn9ICWFLVBIolndCO2GhKQFRkNeG/ZFOnqzU IqGnZh4dg4bleY3qHYaUscrJvQcSSsIclGoiPbNa72ekb8NkrWqB/17AVQ5KJkEE6z2 rs0O/SGY0pdCk31eGUF3FXG/f8wIspGhUiCCTHV1YvM15MOkdCYtW/e77aJM+OEte3X 9jcW0M4JjxFbfi6SyKQWxMw7ayO4VEBjAt1V1Z3OM//SChKfIQz0/sKkJS1vmC7uk3A 8VMzYEsv7B3BWyOghpLJ0Rn3rmcd6ZXETmPDzozzseKgnsQgq+BepI887wl3J9EMEXF yqnGsx1ojj7FFuCVFQYu4km+Lmzh7HeSVYGxw== Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:07:55 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20071202100755.2f5704cc@deskjail> In-Reply-To: <20071201230022.R74097@fledge.watson.org> References: <1196470143.4750af7f6accf@webmail.rawbw.com> <20071201162930.5c9fd4dd@deskjail> <20071201230022.R74097@fledge.watson.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.1 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Yuri Subject: Re: Linux executable picks up FreeBSD library over linux one and breaks X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:09:08 -0000 Quoting Robert Watson (Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:01:46 +0000 (GMT)): > > On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > Have a look at the search order of libs in linux. Correlate this with the > > fact that when in linux an access is done to e.g. /lib/libX.so.y which means > > that the linuxulator first looks if /compat/linux/lib/libX.so.y is there, > > and if it isn't it looks if /lib/libX.so.y is available. > > > > AFAIR a work around is to add a link in /compat/linux/usr/lib/librt.so.1 -> > > /lib/librt.so.1 > > > > I want to do something like this in the FC4 port, but hadn't time to do it > > and test it so far. > > It sounds like the real problem is that there are some cases where we don't > want the Linuxulator to merge the underlying and Linux views of the file > system -- we don't want the union of /compat/linux/lib and /lib, we just want > /compat/linux/lib? Yes. I already thought a little bit of special case /lib, /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib in the kernel. This doesn't catch all cases (e.g., LD_LIBRARY_PATH), produces false positives (in case there's some kind of config file in lib which we want to fall through to the FreeBSD one (if the FreeBSD one is not moved to a different place by the corresponding port; I don't remember such a file, but we have such files in other places)) and looks like a hack to me. Another idea is to special case libs (I didn't think much about this yet), but how to detect libs? Do we look for ^lib.*\.so{,\.[0-9]?}$, will this produce false positives, do we have to special case other files too (lib.*\.la), are there other ways of detecting a lib? Bye, Alexander. -- Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest do not happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects. -- Herodotus http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 09:22:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E51D16A419; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC25513C457; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A57251.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.114.81]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EED22E2B9; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:21:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from deskjail (deskjail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.109]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AE9773AB; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:21:30 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1196587291; bh=HdfbuS7xodCQH8rlG4+muyeQNYLngj/P8 MzojY0HCqA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aL2obpQAlxcyYAD+9YXOhEn4hepBqiVQX+4a1 DWvSNnHJTr7VuX2qjjwOF0EKaBst7wrEKxMQBpmt3/CNjDbbtrTnxJPqXWvB2FashjY N/2MdWPS4Wi/h2C+RH93FVgyCbFrnmk4UnN1ZKlZwfUIC4wruXw13eNbpV6xItBUa5X lXeh9w7piM9uWvEm5j3hPXiHx7Qm2Mo1bYElBnOuvOyDhCxI4vRpis4lOXenCJnVBzu C8mWhERxUcY4RKkLbngsgjQmWSnEw4HPp5lzOVCbG/dGRqOoju8ymYKW0CsufgMnZIW bh7SE3FeT6jq8ITX+TmrznSfR4yATtsyEbNVA== Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:21:30 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20071202102130.4a3f451e@deskjail> In-Reply-To: <20071202100755.2f5704cc@deskjail> References: <1196470143.4750af7f6accf@webmail.rawbw.com> <20071201162930.5c9fd4dd@deskjail> <20071201230022.R74097@fledge.watson.org> <20071202100755.2f5704cc@deskjail> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.1 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Yuri Subject: Re: Linux executable picks up FreeBSD library over linux one and breaks X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:22:07 -0000 Quoting Alexander Leidinger (Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:07:55 +0100): > Quoting Robert Watson (Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:01:46 +0000 (GMT)): > > > > > On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > > > Have a look at the search order of libs in linux. Correlate this with the > > > fact that when in linux an access is done to e.g. /lib/libX.so.y which means > > > that the linuxulator first looks if /compat/linux/lib/libX.so.y is there, > > > and if it isn't it looks if /lib/libX.so.y is available. > > > > > > AFAIR a work around is to add a link in /compat/linux/usr/lib/librt.so.1 -> > > > /lib/librt.so.1 > > > > > > I want to do something like this in the FC4 port, but hadn't time to do it > > > and test it so far. > > > > It sounds like the real problem is that there are some cases where we don't > > want the Linuxulator to merge the underlying and Linux views of the file > > system -- we don't want the union of /compat/linux/lib and /lib, we just want > > /compat/linux/lib? > > Yes. > > I already thought a little bit of special case /lib, /usr/lib > and /usr/local/lib in the kernel. This doesn't catch all cases (e.g., > LD_LIBRARY_PATH), produces false positives (in case there's some kind > of config file in lib which we want to fall through to the FreeBSD one > (if the FreeBSD one is not moved to a different place by the > corresponding port; I don't remember such a file, but we have such > files in other places)) and looks like a hack to me. > > Another idea is to special case libs (I didn't think much about this > yet), but how to detect libs? Do we look for ^lib.*\.so{,\.[0-9]?}$, > will this produce false positives, do we have to special case other > files too (lib.*\.la), are there other ways of detecting a lib? I forgot something: We also have the linux_dist ports, they install install into /usr/local/.... They are full distributions and not a stripped down linux emulation environment. You use them by chroot()ing into them (or a jail). And when we use the linux ldconfig in /comapt/linux to update the cached list of libs for linux, we also chroot into /compat/linux. Naturally there's no /compat/linux after the chroot. So in the chroot case special handling of the libs is forbidden. Bye, Alexander. -- Nothing is faster than the speed of light. To prove this to yourself, try opening the refrigerator door before the light comes on. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 10:02:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C74416A421; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A449413C474; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A57251.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.114.81]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283CA2E125; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:02:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from deskjail (deskjail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.109]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C43E77A67; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:02:35 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1196589755; bh=++Q5TeUR8GUZtYDKLFDTJx5Nf9NdILFKK 9YhSabGH5M=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lUFWJjfwIV1mwg9HwELUy4Is/Qt9BYmKlhBQc 5vk89/GbgdFvlcV2Aa8EKW9Uo8qF1ZQ1XBZ7EC/iCEVlYgSz9mTbrQPjJN+lbY5x+82 Kwmh8uHGUCYNMPR3eokCG8QBURW4OIe+dHXzaMtbHSvPipXB/paos+dmNgsEFgUU4VD P+XgSMU+zMVfEHG3OLqjxz2z1SPtp32ImhBWjPoJ7/XDaaYJUe50FHUaASf5hnJV9WY Dte0H+1KjvKPmlp30E7J6VdU6vSr0Enwf5rCXipnbgqPcFMxifsLRIMczs8SWSafY5D N1nP2auv2emZIp0mLolpbsjhmSB6YeLel+F3w== Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:02:35 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: John E Hein Message-ID: <20071202110235.2d6ae1d6@deskjail> In-Reply-To: <18258.28586.544534.576946@gromit.timing.com> References: <20071103210632.GB72327@amilo.cenkes.org> <1194124724.10479.35.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20071105204645.GE64094@amilo.cenkes.org> <20071116110040.247fnnkzk08gc0sc@webmail.leidinger.net> <20071130192912.GB1524@amilo.cenkes.org> <20071130210120.1c8b3150@deskjail> <18256.31317.682880.921587@gromit.timing.com> <20071201155115.5c6143a4@deskjail> <18258.28586.544534.576946@gromit.timing.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.1 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.746, required 6, BAYES_05 -5.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10, TW_BG 0.08, TW_GT 0.08) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux-pango/cairo vs firefox/seamonkey/flock X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:02:54 -0000 Quoting John E Hein (Sun, 2 Dec 2007 01:41:14 -0700): > Alexander Leidinger wrote at 15:51 +0100 on Dec 1, 2007: > > Regarding the package-spec... the dependency is specific to a > > particular lib, the spec in the patch just says >=0. I'm a little bit > > uncomfortable regarding this. When we want to switch to a new linux > > base, we need to change most of the libs, and then the dependency > > doesn't match anymore (which means an overlooked ports is catched on > > pointyhat or on the tinderboxes). While we can add some text to > > UPDATING, I would like to have the dependency explicitly recorded in > > the port. Unlike the FreeBSD native ports, we have a more strict > > dependency regarding libs in the linux ports. I agree that the package > > spec will work for a lot of users, but with my experience with > > maintaining the linux ports and providing help for them since > > linux_base-8 I suggest to follow the practice we have currently in the > > linux infrastructure ports, as we can circumvent some pitfalls this way. > > You don't have to specify a package >=0. It can be a specific > package rev. (yes, >=0 is probably a bit over-broad). Yes, but any package spec will not result in the same behavior than what we have currently. You can specify a specific version, or a >=/<= range. A specific version is to limited, and for <= you don't really know the value to use as the upper limit. > Specifying a specific file in that package as the RUN_DEPENDS key > (such as ${LINUXBASE}/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0) is really just a > different way of doing things, and it doesn't capture dependencies > that are more than just that lib (for instance, what if a different > required lib that happens to be part of the same package changes, but > the one specified in the dependency remains the same?). I also You can add more than one dependency to the same port if you have to, but typically the library version is bumped for all libs (yes, it's not necessary, but that is what I observed for the ports which are maintained by emulation@). > dislike the hard-coded absolute pathname (for other unrelated > reasons). I agree for FreeBSD ports, but for _binary_ linux ports, absolute path names relative to the base installation directory (in this case LINUXBASE), is what is installed by the port we depend upon. We can not really change this, as the dependency is a binary package and we can not mix different prefixes (LINUXBASE) in the linuxulator. The linuxulator is harder to handle than the rest of the system. If you look at the non-linuxulator ports I maintain, you will see that I don't depend upon specific libs, but hope that any lib version is ok (except where I know that this is not the case). I prefer the relaxed way of handling dependencies. But for the linuxulator infrastructure I went more and more restricted after getting hit by pitfalls. I don't remember all of them, but the current way the linuxulator infrastructure is handled, is the result of them. There are cases where this strict handling may not be ideal, but the alternative you propose here is even less ideal than what we have currently IMO. I don't object if you use this in ports which are not maintained by emulation@ (if I see such use, I will tell my opinion about it, but the maintainer is the one making the decision what is used), but for ports maintained by emulation@, I claim some ownership (I invested a lot of time to improve them), so I ask to follow the style you see in those ports. If you want to change this, you have to come up with some hard real world facts where it hurts. I'm open to change everything you can come up with, if you can show it solves a real world problem without impacting other cases. > In one sense you can have finer control by specifying a package rev > than just one file in that package. > > And with the advent of lib versioning, keying on a .so.N will not help > you if you want to capture the need for a new rev of a package, but N > doesn't change. The ports in question (let's call them gnome related ports) have a history of coming with an overly verbose library name (currently: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.10) and a link from a simple name to this complex name. I expect that this stays this way. So if the simple link doesn't fulfill our dependency needs anymore, we can switch to a more specific link (yes, this is even more restricted than relaxed). > Those are just some "counterpoint" thoughts to look at things from a > different perspective. I would probably lean toward using the > "package spec" way of doing things and certainly not reject it just > because it's not the way things are currently done. The way the things are currently done have a history. This history is the result of several years of handling real world problems. With this clamped down approach we get less problem reports than with the very relaxed way of handling which was done before I laid my hands at the linuxulator infrastructure ports. > Maybe it'd be worth trying to use that way for a bit, at least for > this patch if not the rest of the linux ports, and see if it winds up > being better or not. The problem is, that we talk about edge cases. If we would change it, we will not notice a problem for a while. For such minor updates like for the ports in the subject, the proposed way of handling it will work without problems. But as the person which did the linux_base-7 -> linux_base-8 update and mentored the linux_base-8 -> linux_base-fc3 -> linux_base-fc4 updates, I can tell you that major updates provide enough pitfalls where this matters. The previous updates went very nice, and as I know the complexity involved there, I'm very happy about this. I would like to continue with such smooth updates, and for this reason I suggest to follow the existing style of dependency handling. Bye, Alexander. -- ports/net/netcat port is useful not only for redirecting input/output to TCP or UDP connections, but also for proxying them with inetd(8). http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 18:36:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEC116A421 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@sysfault.org) Received: from smtprelay09.ispgateway.de (smtprelay09.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B5413C459 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@sysfault.org) Received: (qmail 6843 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2007 18:36:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medusa.sysfault.org) (936934@[89.182.89.192]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay09.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Dec 2007 18:36:16 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=medusa.sysfault.org) by medusa.sysfault.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Iytja-000Dwv-87; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:40:08 +0100 Received: (from marcus@localhost) by medusa.sysfault.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lB2Ie3xP053624; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:40:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marcus) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:40:03 +0100 From: Marcus von Appen To: Roman Divacky Message-ID: <20071202184003.GA53563@medusa.sysfault.org> References: <20071124091332.GA980@medusa.sysfault.org> <20071124115033.GA59527@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071124115033.GA59527@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linuxulator on RELENG_7 causes games to hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marcus von Appen List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:36:19 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On, Sat Nov 24, 2007, Roman Divacky wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 10:13:32AM +0100, Marcus von Appen wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > today someone reported a breakage in the linux emulation (see PR > > ports/118213). As games//HeroesOfMightAndMagic worked fine on RELENG_6, > > some change between RELENG_6 and RELENG_7 must have caused a bug with > > such programs. > >=20 > > games/HeroesOfMightAndMagic starts as supposed and goes into a wait > > state including a zombie process. > > In contrast to other reported issues, this does not seem to be related > > to the sound directly (although it might be caused by it) as the process > > hangs no matter if sound is enabled or disabled. > >=20 > > games/rt2-demo suffers from the same issue, although it can be started > > without issues if you disable the sound with the -s parameter.=20 >=20 > please try to bisect code changes to identify the exact change that broke= it. > I'll investigate that from that point further.. >=20 At least I could track the issue down the RELENG_6 as well. It happens on the most recent RELENG_6 as well as on the 200710 snapshot from the servers. Unfortunately I had no chance to track it down on RELENG_7 so far - getting back in time turned out to be a real pity and installing a clean system for every dated cvs snapshot is more than a pain. I'll try to step forward from RELENG_6_2 within the next weeks but that'll take a lot of time, so it'd be quite helpful, if you can isolate the possibly affecting changes between RELENG_6_2 and RELENG_6 as well. Regards Marcus --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHUvwDo/JpszXavhwRAvbRAJ9wZ6nrXnhjiNvVZ5CT4Naj5F7P2gCfdMC4 5z5aA9+rXci5226YJQbxzPM= =2MzY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 19:40:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E42C16A417 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (vlk.vlakno.cz [62.168.28.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0369613C458 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F1B66A635; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:40:08 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vlk.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2x613sRc2+se; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:40:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4443466A622; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:40:07 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lB2Je6PI063904; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:40:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:40:06 +0100 From: Roman Divacky To: Marcus von Appen Message-ID: <20071202194006.GA63856@freebsd.org> References: <20071124091332.GA980@medusa.sysfault.org> <20071124115033.GA59527@freebsd.org> <20071202184003.GA53563@medusa.sysfault.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071202184003.GA53563@medusa.sysfault.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linuxulator on RELENG_7 causes games to hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:40:10 -0000 > servers. Unfortunately I had no chance to track it down on RELENG_7 so > far - getting back in time turned out to be a real pity and installing a > clean system for every dated cvs snapshot is more than a pain. you have to update only the kernel.. that should not be such a big problem From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 23:56:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A02C16A417 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 23:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outZ.internet-mail-service.net (outZ.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3412713C448 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 23:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from mx0.idiom.com (HELO idiom.com) (216.240.32.160) by out.internet-mail-service.net (qpsmtpd/0.40) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:45:11 -0800 X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [216.240.48.38]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B43126B7B; Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:45:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47534388.4030608@elischer.org> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:45:12 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: <1196470143.4750af7f6accf@webmail.rawbw.com> <20071201162930.5c9fd4dd@deskjail> <20071201230022.R74097@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20071201230022.R74097@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, Alexander Leidinger , Yuri , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux executable picks up FreeBSD library over linux one and breaks X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:56:40 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > >> Have a look at the search order of libs in linux. Correlate this with >> the fact that when in linux an access is done to e.g. /lib/libX.so.y >> which means that the linuxulator first looks if >> /compat/linux/lib/libX.so.y is there, and if it isn't it looks if >> /lib/libX.so.y is available. >> >> AFAIR a work around is to add a link in >> /compat/linux/usr/lib/librt.so.1 -> /lib/librt.so.1 >> >> I want to do something like this in the FC4 port, but hadn't time to >> do it and test it so far. > > It sounds like the real problem is that there are some cases where we > don't want the Linuxulator to merge the underlying and Linux views of > the file system -- we don't want the union of /compat/linux/lib and > /lib, we just want /compat/linux/lib? > chroot /compat/linux. > Robert N M Watson > Computer Laboratory > University of Cambridge > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 11:06:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D4016A420 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1721913C459 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lB3B6wMF005548 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:06:58 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lB3B6w8s005544 for freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:06:58 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:06:58 GMT Message-Id: <200712031106.lB3B6w8s005544@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:06:59 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/21463 emulation [linux] Linux compatability mode should not allow setu o kern/97326 emulation [linux] file descriptor leakage in linux emulation o kern/102956 emulation [linux] [patch] Add partial support for SO_PEERCRED in o kern/117010 emulation [linuxolator] linux_getdents() get something like buff o ports/117350 emulation compile error in emulators/vmware3 o kern/118329 emulation [linux] TSM fails after kernel upgrade (regression) 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/11165 emulation [ibcs2] IBCS2 doesn't work correctly with PID_MAX 9999 o kern/29698 emulation [linux] [patch] linux ipcs doesn'work o kern/39201 emulation [linux] [patch] ptrace(2) and rfork(RFLINUXTHPN) confu o kern/41543 emulation [patch] feature request: easier wine/w23 support o kern/55835 emulation [linux] [patch] Linux IPC emulation missing SETALL sys a kern/72920 emulation [linux]: path "prefixing" is not done on unix domain s o kern/73777 emulation [linux] [patch] linux emulation: root dir special hand o kern/91293 emulation [svr4] [patch] *Experimental* Update to the SVR4 emula o ports/91318 emulation [fix] graphics/linux_dri: works on amd64 too 9 problems total. From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 01:51:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0323B16A420; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scf@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.farley.org (farley.org [67.64.95.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1D113C465; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scf@FreeBSD.org) Received: from thor.farley.org (thor.farley.org [192.168.1.5]) by mail.farley.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB41Zsbi047579; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:35:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scf@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:35:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Sean C. Farley" To: Greg Troxel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1196470143.4750af7f6accf@webmail.rawbw.com> <20071201162930.5c9fd4dd@deskjail> User-Agent: Alpine 0.99999 (BSF 796 2007-11-08) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on mail.farley.org Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.org, Alexander Leidinger , Yuri , Mike Ragusa , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Linux executable picks up FreeBSD library over linux one and breaks X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:51:18 -0000 On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Greg Troxel wrote: > I had a Linux shared library problem on NetBSD that I think it might > be helpful to mention. > > thunderbird (and firefox) set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to pick up their own > modules. When acroread is invoked to display a pdf attachment, > LD_LIBRARY_PATH is still set, and this causes acroread to read a BSD > library. My workaround is to use a script for acroread that cleans > the environment. > > I think this is a thunderbird bug; the environment of invoked programs > should match the environment as of thunderbird's invocation. I had to make a change[1] to the Linux UT99 binary during install to stop it from attempting to use FreeBSD's libGL.so due to its hard-coding of LD_LIBRARY_PATH. It may be evil, but it worked. :) Once my system's SATA DVD drive works with RELENG_7, I will try to see if I can fix linux-nwnclient. Skype may have the same "solution". Mike, I Cc'd you to see if you can try using sed like I did in the linux-ut port to "fix" nwmain. Using strings, you can see if /usr/local/lib is hard-coded into the binary and replace it with an equal length string that does not point to anything. Sean 1. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/games/linux-ut/Makefile.diff?r1=1.5;r2=1.6 -- scf@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 10:25:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3ABD16A41A for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@sysfault.org) Received: from smtprelay08.ispgateway.de (smtprelay08.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BCE13C447 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@sysfault.org) Received: (qmail 29207 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 10:25:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medusa.sysfault.org) (936934@[89.182.18.243]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay08.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 10:25:29 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=medusa.sysfault.org) by medusa.sysfault.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IzV1Q-000IV1-Uf; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:29:22 +0100 Received: (from marcus@localhost) by medusa.sysfault.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lB4ASwIB071114; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:28:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marcus) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:28:58 +0100 From: Marcus von Appen To: Roman Divacky Message-ID: <20071204102858.GA1127@medusa.sysfault.org> References: <20071124091332.GA980@medusa.sysfault.org> <20071124115033.GA59527@freebsd.org> <20071202184003.GA53563@medusa.sysfault.org> <20071202194006.GA63856@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071202194006.GA63856@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linuxulator on RELENG_7 causes games to hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marcus von Appen List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:25:31 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On, Sun Dec 02, 2007, Roman Divacky wrote: > > servers. Unfortunately I had no chance to track it down on RELENG_7 so > > far - getting back in time turned out to be a real pity and installing a > > clean system for every dated cvs snapshot is more than a pain. >=20 > you have to update only the kernel.. that should not be such a big problem In fact it was. The kernel did not like to be built without cleaning anything else first. Various compile time errors occured, which made it impossible to update it separately from the rest - no idea why that happened, I guess, that some missing environment setting messed up the tree. Anyhow, I could track the RELENG_6 issue down to the changes made on 2007-07-08, which were a big MFC made by netchild. A kernel build starting from the 8th does not work, the 7th is still okay. I'm starting once more with RELENG_7 now I have an idea about the time frame of RELENG_6. Regards Marcus --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHVSvpo/JpszXavhwRAmndAKCiWYWnQpogVIi4jcVpV32p5Eq4LgCgoXjQ xlm80Kg2N0xLUS8ZHjhMQdI= =wQ6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 5 10:59:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5B716A418 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E6113C448 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5422C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.66.44]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F962E332; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:54:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4939788CF; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:54:40 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1196852081; bh=eGhBNpq+WliVMkPdIBGF3/3gdhQFiv6GH 36lYpNCvxg=; h=Message-ID:X-Priority:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent; b=eZtIe5 tAv71AUJwasftsLz3J1zD9pskzdMIbajYX4C+weuUKlTiTve/s8V1tXEXwqHIsr/8LL BuaHdHr9TQ67v9p4FeM+dN0yBNg/DIrL4KZ7/vvitrhwXF+iVpI4E3gcM0hygSwvFMD tTOZXs0+kOcngaNDa8tNw0Eh9nhkqyLJf4Ex44krmZpEEW0kkeFP4MIs6AxS1XHQYpT wxgHnHbp+ilGtq9r1XEVx5YqwEIUY/wWC7QRlouacuxk10KG9mXkeRm+YHkZPcjf50M VSotMSZYVLbe/wqHsBSuZGkuMWrHpFbXsp5xpQ7r0TB6vfGKxvahrkTTH0eCoymXdVZ g== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id lB5Asemr043144; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:54:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:54:39 +0100 Message-ID: <20071205115439.cnul0w9fy8k0sgko@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:54:39 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Marcus von Appen References: <20071124091332.GA980@medusa.sysfault.org> <20071124115033.GA59527@freebsd.org> <20071202184003.GA53563@medusa.sysfault.org> <20071202194006.GA63856@freebsd.org> <20071204102858.GA1127@medusa.sysfault.org> In-Reply-To: <20071204102858.GA1127@medusa.sysfault.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-13.504, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE 1.40, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linuxulator on RELENG_7 causes games to hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:59:18 -0000 Quoting Marcus von Appen (from Tue, 4 Dec 2007 =20 11:28:58 +0100): > On, Sun Dec 02, 2007, Roman Divacky wrote: > >> > servers. Unfortunately I had no chance to track it down on RELENG_7 so >> > far - getting back in time turned out to be a real pity and installing = a >> > clean system for every dated cvs snapshot is more than a pain. >> >> you have to update only the kernel.. that should not be such a big proble= m > > In fact it was. The kernel did not like to be built without cleaning > anything else first. Various compile time errors occured, which made it > impossible to update it separately from the rest - no idea why that > happened, I guess, that some missing environment setting messed up the > tree. > > Anyhow, I could track the RELENG_6 issue down to the changes made on > 2007-07-08, which were a big MFC made by netchild. A kernel build > starting from the 8th does not work, the 7th is still okay. > > I'm starting once more with RELENG_7 now I have an idea about the > time frame of RELENG_6. You have to look up the timeframe of the corresponding changes in 7-current. Just go to cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/sys/ and have a look at the commit =20 history for compat/linux/* and {i386,amd64}/linux{,32}/* to find =20 suitable points in time to look at. Bye, Alexander. --=20 Cthulhu Cthucks! http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 5 18:47:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A6616A41A for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05BF13C4EE for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so3289257nfb for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:47:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=g6BOJoG6gsYJKnkiMM8D22Iwv9Q7C03DMKPfscvdKq0=; b=uk9pzgocIrztBaBPa66zSpQNhQuN/7f1EZuZmfcR86RQwr+yl+J7etG738qFcVzpwB+GYfAAS8qo+jnk5o5iu4RTdeDBJ3xlBKQoB1anOxBtsYV+tqgmC689WETTo2nnkVeJsG3H9rFNi+ao56kEXNjMkFHEilKWRW0gvYAK12g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Uwo2NaedV4JX1MC5wdiyOb9Myo0qgi8xGx8QhfHqe519S2xCYFZsY28mx3I8Jht6pXUzSOqX7w2fFvkhMqE+dysgrfDIIFOiUIDn87bqUgmAk6j7ry53+YVuzqtk4YdCbgHXxboBDUV+SwntXWrdBGsKK2MoL2n0pRcyyqP/T6M= Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr1007644hug.1196878752240; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:19:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.185? ( [213.152.137.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w7sm55361mue.2007.12.05.10.19.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:19:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4756EBED.6050109@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:20:29 +0300 From: sam User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: kern/117010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:47:02 -0000 hi, all http://cs.udmvt.ru/files/temp/linux_getdents.tar.bz2 test programs (include sources) for verify work of syscall 'getdents()' on FreeBSD (thanx to NetXMS http://www.netxms.org developer Victor Kirhenshtein) - program linux_getdents builded (dynamicaly linked) on Debian Etch 4.0 rc1 (Linux kernel2.6.22-2-686) normal working with big dirs (tested on FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT linux_base-fc4, linux_base-fc6) - program linux_getdents builded (staticaly linked) on Debian Etch 4.0 rc1 (Linux kernel2.6.22-2-686) normal working with small dirs, crashed on big dirs (tested on FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT linux_base-fc4) /Vladimir Ermakov From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 18:14:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB8516A498 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D8613C4F6 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 18:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so4342690qbd for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:14:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=hHfQHRl+arfN+KZfVBXmppUi6za6WkYG9w93WfnBI5o=; b=EG7pBFL7g08Xxnxpwrz2erx/1JPjWspA5kC6y1IGxY8cfFc3LXjbCSjifHBAbCT43aZ6iHrYc2AVog6HTwZk5CB784VttLEaE8PMeM8fKsrwFtg1FSSkL7ylxG2RRHtgnn/6+eLZlkfrsU3MyQabmKF6nRJXA6WsUmXIIEm1ezQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=w1jI9demtbttudVf+xOAyepAw+b1P4xQDnR3FGqoPhDbz+tWw+kTDab+RA6y7ldcEzvAZlUb7iutVR/oan0sYky12Is5Fp1FaxFUpKaZI4GTykJByEH34hRhzdKYGMy02Z0Q99BeH4AWv/LvdAiVXoqdDGdKildODky5C/uz7Tc= Received: by 10.142.148.7 with SMTP id v7mr1784689wfd.1196963948560; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.191.6 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:59:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:59:08 -0500 From: "Tom Wickline" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:14:25 -0000 Hello Everyone, I have a small blog about running Wine on Unix operating systems and over the last couple days I've been experimenting with Wine on FreeBSD 7 beta 2 (I see beta 4 is out, many thanks!) If anyone here is interested I ran Office 97 and 2000 out of the box on FreeBSD 7beta no registry files or special hacks needed. Ive also run a couple small applications (Qicktime 7.1.6) (IE 5 5.5 6) and then some benchmarks 3DMark 2000v1.1, 3DMark2001SE, GL Excess and PC Mark04. In the future ill see if I can get 3DMark 2003 and 3DMark 2005 to run and produce results as well. I don't know if any of you guys or gals are Gamers.... But just in case I also installed Halo in Wine and it runs about the same on FreeBSD as it does on Linux. With D3D, DDraw and OpenGL working most every game that is running in Wine should run on FreeBSD.. I don't know this as fact as I've only tried one Game and four Benchmarks, but it does look promising. More info can be found here: Wine-Review front Page: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/ Office 97/2000: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/microsoft-office-2000-on-freebsd-7-with.html http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/office-97-on-freebsd-with-wine.html IE, QT etc.. http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/quicktime-716-on-freebsd-7-with-wine.html http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/ies-4-freebsd-internet-explorer-50-55.html Benchmark results & Halo: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/benchmarking-wine-on-freebsd-7.html http:/http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/halo-combat-evolved-on-freebsd-with.html Oh yea, were seeking contributors... if your interested in Wine on FreeBSD and believe you can help us out see : http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/wine-review-is-currently-seeking.html Thanks for your time......... Cheers, Tom Wickline From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 19:09:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D05F16A421 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A703E13C455 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so805547pyb for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:09:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KupEQri4jBHsY9q6p9FuZFkpbqJ1O9Cny+Ervos8g4g=; b=D6GixqmgX851YL/NXUrDXIhF2Q26gLUZsvznc7iEwtupnPkWbxRj5S3c1ZXz/3tg45h4DjOPQFocGDchi4KzIP6ph+oDuPThQnzkWGpMZV1sfmZA7nxboy2hXOc/W1eQmZT7k7S5YNQA4nbojKF0u8jqGVTUGyzQnvZWem3QVpY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iV4mPPnim7v8lT/25u/qxNDQA7+79bOcICLS4a++1AasIWfqTOU1kOmA0Jp7TWDVRVKs88FfFcTABnIb40dnzb5jOGdzdHcII+M1uWyGgV6rMwgyWssXHXwHdLhhZKZ4kRaxF+Ew+8fe4jQBmbpHntCkQKcyYpkrzOoXJHe8SA4= Received: by 10.143.33.19 with SMTP id l19mr1851694wfj.1196968165956; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.191.6 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:09:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53e3a9930712061109l3a12f8cane8c15bb1f4f5da8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:09:25 -0500 From: "Tom Wickline" To: "Marc Fonvieille" In-Reply-To: <20071206185852.GB1005@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <20071206185852.GB1005@gothic.blackend.org> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:09:32 -0000 On Dec 6, 2007 1:58 PM, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > > > More info can be found here: > > > > Wine-Review front Page: > > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/ > > > > Hello, Hello Marc, > > I use to follow your blog since the beginning, I'm happy to see you > "supporting" FreeBSD. Yea, FreeBSD rocks! Gentoo user as well :D > > > Office 97/2000: > > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/microsoft-office-2000-on-freebsd-7-with.html > [...] > > In September had to play with Office 2k and I followed your linux > related instruction to run it under FreeBSD (I note your FreeBSD related > article is identical to the linux one). But, I never were able to run > Excel, this one just hangs once the main page is displayed (Word runs > fine). I wonder if you never met this issue. > > Here's what I got in the terminal: > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Received unsupported sockaddr family 0x12 > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x10 > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x20 > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Received unsupported sockaddr family 0x12 > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x10 > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x20 > err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x1320e0 "moniker.c: > RunningObjectTableImpl.lock" wait timed out in thread 0009, blocked by > 0000, retrying (60 sec) What you could try is to install dcom98 and in it will use a native storage.dll > fixme:storage:StgCreateDocfile Transacted mode not implemented. looks like the culprit.. i didn't run into this tho.. ill re-install Office 2k again and test everything another time. Cheers, Tom > > -- > Marc > From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 19:11:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6454E16A5B3 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23E513C43E for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lB6IwrWF096994; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:58:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB6Iwr2d002067; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:58:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lB6IwqBp002066; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:58:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:58:52 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Tom Wickline Message-ID: <20071206185852.GB1005@gothic.blackend.org> References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:11:18 -0000 On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:59:08PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have a small blog about running Wine on Unix operating systems and > over the last couple days I've been > experimenting with Wine on FreeBSD 7 beta 2 (I see beta 4 is out, many thanks!) > > If anyone here is interested I ran Office 97 and 2000 out of the box > on FreeBSD 7beta no registry files > or special hacks needed. Ive also run a couple small applications > (Qicktime 7.1.6) (IE 5 5.5 6) and then some benchmarks > 3DMark 2000v1.1, 3DMark2001SE, GL Excess and PC Mark04. In the future > ill see if I can get 3DMark 2003 and 3DMark 2005 > to run and produce results as well. > > I don't know if any of you guys or gals are Gamers.... But just in > case I also installed Halo in Wine and it runs about the same > on FreeBSD as it does on Linux. With D3D, DDraw and OpenGL working > most every game that is running in Wine should run > on FreeBSD.. I don't know this as fact as I've only tried one Game and > four Benchmarks, but it does look promising. > > More info can be found here: > > Wine-Review front Page: > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/ > Hello, I use to follow your blog since the beginning, I'm happy to see you "supporting" FreeBSD. > Office 97/2000: > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/microsoft-office-2000-on-freebsd-7-with.html [...] In September had to play with Office 2k and I followed your linux related instruction to run it under FreeBSD (I note your FreeBSD related article is identical to the linux one). But, I never were able to run Excel, this one just hangs once the main page is displayed (Word runs fine). I wonder if you never met this issue. Here's what I got in the terminal: err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Received unsupported sockaddr family 0x12 err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x10 err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x20 err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Received unsupported sockaddr family 0x12 err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x10 err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x20 fixme:storage:StgCreateDocfile Transacted mode not implemented. err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x1320e0 "moniker.c: RunningObjectTableImpl.lock" wait timed out in thread 0009, blocked by 0000, retrying (60 sec) -- Marc From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 19:15:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7A816A468 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C1D13C44B for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so134797nzf for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:15:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hPBzyI0FK69TdmQCx2UA7CqZeVBN0ZPy6FFjBvMEGdQ=; b=tg6nzPXRdKT1aYgfRqfwLtAtx+FbinnQ0FVBPAT7ok0o2mysjNu8+LpGyNEEnuqjPZV/XIX3qAuKO3Jn6WgozXnQ1bSRpttXkAhHLfkKUiLArC0hfVcwKnGx72Nx2zvSOx41dyq1jSJG3bFlfVqhMnwWhZe5aSbhq1m3O5XMCS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rnAcuvWGL1fjRQIfA5FF/Hex5GGp/ED8p//cNVzQrszRPcYbuH2b7tyEcc8SXBrIIkzRdvPtVrXQ7hMKCQYRqAl/T9l6wvSbUr3UQuFJEbujTUD+FWGE2tFtALofBHXJIQfvKtx9eYLmqa0SOCZhzEsWOPuqwDqWPnukl7hUoR0= Received: by 10.142.72.21 with SMTP id u21mr1860276wfa.1196968522003; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.191.6 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:15:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53e3a9930712061115g750be865yb65a14af5b24405a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:15:21 -0500 From: "Tom Wickline" To: "Person, Roderick" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:15:25 -0000 On Dec 6, 2007 2:06 PM, Person, Roderick wrote: > This looks great. But for people who haven't used Wine of FreeBSD in > ages - or ever. How about a guide on how you installed Wine on FreeBSD 7 > and how you configured it so you could get to the point of installing > Office. Yea a walk through may be useful, the bad thing about any thing in life is when you know what your talking about (or think anyway) you expect everyone else to as well. > > I'd sure like to run Rome Total War on FreeBSD. It one of the few things > I actually still do on Windows. Sure ill try the demo on FreeBSD as well.. Just keep in mind it will most likely be Sunday or Monday until I find the free time to do this. Cheers, Tom > > Rod Person > Programmer > (412)454-2616 > http://www.ccbh.com > From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 19:18:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124A016A4C4 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: from 1upmc-msx-pp2.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx-pp2.upmc.edu [128.147.16.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D6D13C45B for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: from 1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.18.40]) by 1upmc-msx-pp2.upmc.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB6J6dPD031021 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:06:39 -0500 Received: from 1upmc-msx6.acct.upmchs.net ([128.147.16.61]) by 1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:06:39 -0500 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:06:38 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 Thread-Index: Acg4M7sECU591b51QQyWpLoT2X8AhwABuU2w From: "Person, Roderick" To: "Tom Wickline" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2007 19:06:39.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[21AB00A0:01C8383B] Cc: Subject: RE: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:18:22 -0000 This looks great. But for people who haven't used Wine of FreeBSD in ages - or ever. How about a guide on how you installed Wine on FreeBSD 7 and how you configured it so you could get to the point of installing Office. I'd sure like to run Rome Total War on FreeBSD. It one of the few things I actually still do on Windows. Rod Person Programmer (412)454-2616 http://www.ccbh.com "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinion, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." --Oscar Wilde=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tom Wickline > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 12:59 PM > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org;=20 > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;=20 > freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org > Subject: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 >=20 > Hello Everyone, >=20 > I have a small blog about running Wine on Unix operating=20 > systems and over the last couple days I've been experimenting=20 > with Wine on FreeBSD 7 beta 2 (I see beta 4 is out, many thanks!) >=20 > If anyone here is interested I ran Office 97 and 2000 out of=20 > the box on FreeBSD 7beta no registry files or special hacks=20 > needed. Ive also run a couple small applications (Qicktime=20 > 7.1.6) (IE 5 5.5 6) and then some benchmarks 3DMark 2000v1.1,=20 > 3DMark2001SE, GL Excess and PC Mark04. In the future ill see=20 > if I can get 3DMark 2003 and 3DMark 2005 to run and produce=20 > results as well. >=20 > I don't know if any of you guys or gals are Gamers.... But=20 > just in case I also installed Halo in Wine and it runs about=20 > the same on FreeBSD as it does on Linux. With D3D, DDraw and=20 > OpenGL working most every game that is running in Wine should=20 > run on FreeBSD.. I don't know this as fact as I've only tried=20 > one Game and four Benchmarks, but it does look promising. >=20 > More info can be found here: >=20 > Wine-Review front Page: > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/ >=20 > Office 97/2000: > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/microsoft-office-2000- > on-freebsd-7-with.html > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/office-97-on-freebsd-w > ith-wine.html >=20 > IE, QT etc.. > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/quicktime-716-on-freeb > sd-7-with-wine.html > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/ies-4-freebsd-internet > -explorer-50-55.html >=20 > Benchmark results & Halo: > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/benchmarking-wine-on-f reebsd-7.html > http:/http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/halo-combat-evol > ved-on-freebsd-with.html >=20 > Oh yea, were seeking contributors... if your interested in=20 > Wine on FreeBSD and believe you can help us out see : > http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/wine-review-is-current > ly-seeking.html >=20 > Thanks for your time......... >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Tom Wickline > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 6 19:20:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412B416A4DF for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: from 1upmc-msx-pp2.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx-pp2.upmc.edu [128.147.16.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0215113C4DB for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: from 1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.18.40]) by 1upmc-msx-pp2.upmc.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB6JKS6Y010401 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:20:28 -0500 Received: from 1upmc-msx6.acct.upmchs.net ([128.147.16.61]) by 1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:20:28 -0500 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:20:27 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712061115g750be865yb65a14af5b24405a@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 Thread-Index: Acg4PFxlrExgjYv4QOO3BGs26b5VBAAABwTQ From: "Person, Roderick" To: "Tom Wickline" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2007 19:20:28.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F893570:01C8383D] Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:20:29 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Wickline [mailto:twickline@gmail.com]=20 >=20 > Yea a walk through may be useful, the bad thing about any=20 > thing in life is when you know what your talking about (or=20 > think anyway) you expect everyone else to as well. >=20 Thanks. I'm installing Wine right now and I'll see what happens :) > > > > I'd sure like to run Rome Total War on FreeBSD. It one of the few=20 > > things I actually still do on Windows. >=20 > Sure ill try the demo on FreeBSD as well.. >=20 > Just keep in mind it will most likely be Sunday or Monday=20 > until I find the free time to do this. > Well if my wine install works out. I'll let you know about my experience with Rome on FreeBSD and if that works I might try out Pro Evolution Soccer 5. If things don't work, I can wait until Sunday or Monday. Thanks again, Rod=20 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 7 21:34:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F87116A418 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F88513C461 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1736503waf for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:34:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cY1Y99JsGfGVvo1CjVnF2kT3ltpChuL5X8+1li+cTEA=; b=bBOTqd/KZ0OEMNMcazHZ3SIzvTAd4UNHPIQbPwDFnzdYTTzKHf3X1PcRhGqX4zzbCgQSRudX7V8UOfrfyqVVW7apVzswruWD9kcRv0Tq2wV4dgmDldKdnsxMsn6Cts60xv79GNVgxGHo0zj9lYwAp+86Vgb/cGEtTyND2meoKTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JCYWl5aBzPB+NS8mi0aoy43P1P1OWnTNXylG4DG4t0R4uW5vt7F1RoNIZUu1yT/7iy452M367yZm+8HUV3aK5skqFm6klyinTMsPXE1cqSNNoUMWfwJGxRL7WnaB4/xFfi/LVxQs4jwnu3R8VjPE9AV/lL79EhUAIZgTZ3qpMv0= Received: by 10.114.80.4 with SMTP id d4mr3681233wab.1197063290633; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.177.15 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:34:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53e3a9930712071334p546b8448y6974887cca2ed982@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 16:34:45 -0500 From: "Tom Wickline" To: "Person, Roderick" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:34:51 -0000 On Dec 6, 2007 2:06 PM, Person, Roderick wrote: > This looks great. But for people who haven't used Wine of FreeBSD in > ages - or ever. How about a guide on how you installed Wine on FreeBSD 7 > and how you configured it so you could get to the point of installing > Office. > I put this together in about 30 minutes....... http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/quick-introduction-to-wine.html Most of the relevant info on the blog is configuration and registry edits, maybe this will help people to get to the point of doing the needed tweaks/hacks/edits. suggestions are welcome :) Tom Wickline From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 09:13:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877F616A41A for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E068C13C459 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from ednmsw511.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednmsw511.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.68.12]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB88wEea016754 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:28:15 +1030 (CST) Received: from fmbex510.dsto.defence.gov.au (fmbex510.dsto.defence.gov.au) by ednmsw511.dsto.defence.gov.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:28:51 +1030 Received: from stlex510.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.184]) by fmbex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:58:51 +1100 Received: from obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.208]) by stlex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:58:49 +0800 Received: from obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lB88w7AU023971; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:58:07 +0900 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: (from wilkinsa@localhost) by obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lB88w6bE023970; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:58:06 +0900 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:58:06 +0900 From: "Wilkinson, Alex" To: Tom Wickline Message-ID: <20071208085805.GA23649@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Wickline , "Person, Roderick" , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <53e3a9930712061115g750be865yb65a14af5b24405a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712061115g750be865yb65a14af5b24405a@mail.gmail.com> Organisation: Defence Science Technology Organisation User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2007 08:58:50.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CC94AC0:01C83978] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.0.0.1526-5.0.1023-15592.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--4.126000-0.000000-31 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 09:13:09 -0000 0n Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 02:15:21PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: >On Dec 6, 2007 2:06 PM, Person, Roderick wrote: >> This looks great. But for people who haven't used Wine of FreeBSD in >> ages - or ever. How about a guide on how you installed Wine on FreeBSD 7 >> and how you configured it so you could get to the point of installing >> Office. > >Yea a walk through may be useful, the bad thing about any thing in >life is when you >know what your talking about (or think anyway) you expect everyone >else to as well. I agree! I'd love to see a walk through from scratch also. Awesome blog! I just added it to my Google Reader feeds ;) -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 09:13:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7297116A468 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173D513C461 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from ednmsw511.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednmsw511.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.68.12]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB895YrQ018017 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:35:34 +1030 (CST) Received: from fmbex510.dsto.defence.gov.au (fmbex510.dsto.defence.gov.au) by ednmsw511.dsto.defence.gov.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:36:10 +1030 Received: from stlex510.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.184]) by fmbex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 20:06:09 +1100 Received: from obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.208]) by stlex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:06:07 +0800 Received: from obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lB895QHT024007; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 18:05:26 +0900 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa@obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: (from wilkinsa@localhost) by obelix.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lB895OxX024006; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 18:05:24 +0900 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 18:05:24 +0900 From: "Wilkinson, Alex" To: Tom Wickline Message-ID: <20071208090524.GB23649@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Wickline , "Person, Roderick" , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <53e3a9930712071334p546b8448y6974887cca2ed982@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712071334p546b8448y6974887cca2ed982@mail.gmail.com> Organisation: Defence Science Technology Organisation User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2007 09:06:07.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[91B0FAA0:01C83979] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.0.0.1526-5.0.1023-15592.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No-11.806100-0.000000-31 Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 09:13:10 -0000 0n Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 04:34:45PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: >On Dec 6, 2007 2:06 PM, Person, Roderick wrote: >> This looks great. But for people who haven't used Wine of FreeBSD in >> ages - or ever. How about a guide on how you installed Wine on FreeBSD 7 >> and how you configured it so you could get to the point of installing >> Office. >> > >I put this together in about 30 minutes....... > >http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/quick-introduction-to-wine.html > >Most of the relevant info on the blog is configuration and registry >edits, maybe this will >help people to get to the point of doing the needed tweaks/hacks/edits. Good stuff! Thanks for sharing this with community! One question: I have a specific application that my motherboard manufacturer produces it's called "Abit µGuru". µGuru technology, allows the monitoring/control of the system's fan headers and the ability to set voltages and FSB rates on the fly [http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3142&p=4]. Problem is, is that it is only available in Windows! :( Do you think an app like this could be run from within FreeBSD using WINE ? -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 10:25:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6945916A417 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7E013C442 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lB8APOh8029138; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:25:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB8APOWF001624; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:25:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lB8APOiJ001623; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:25:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:25:23 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Tom Wickline Message-ID: <20071208102523.GA1489@gothic.blackend.org> References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <20071206185852.GB1005@gothic.blackend.org> <53e3a9930712061109l3a12f8cane8c15bb1f4f5da8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712061109l3a12f8cane8c15bb1f4f5da8@mail.gmail.com> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 10:25:28 -0000 On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 02:09:25PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: > > > > In September had to play with Office 2k and I followed your linux > > related instruction to run it under FreeBSD (I note your FreeBSD related > > article is identical to the linux one). But, I never were able to run > > Excel, this one just hangs once the main page is displayed (Word runs > > fine). I wonder if you never met this issue. > > > > Here's what I got in the terminal: > > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Received unsupported sockaddr family 0x12 > > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x10 > > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x20 > > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Received unsupported sockaddr family 0x12 > > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x10 > > err:iphlpapi:getRouteTable Unexpected address type 0x20 > > > err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x1320e0 "moniker.c: > > RunningObjectTableImpl.lock" wait timed out in thread 0009, blocked by > > 0000, retrying (60 sec) > > What you could try is to install dcom98 and in it will use a native storage.dll > dcom98 "refuses" to be installed :) Well, I assume Office 2k installs by default some of these files. > > fixme:storage:StgCreateDocfile Transacted mode not implemented. > > looks like the culprit.. i didn't run into this tho.. ill re-install > Office 2k again and test everything > another time. Please, try with a fresh wine install, i.e. starting without a populated ~/.wine -- Marc From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 11:05:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A8216A420 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (vlk.vlakno.cz [62.168.28.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F9613C448 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E887466A766; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:05:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vlk.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i908aCzHa46d; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:05:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E229A66A765; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:05:38 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lB8B5cx3044716; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:05:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:05:38 +0100 From: Roman Divacky To: sam Message-ID: <20071208110538.GA44709@freebsd.org> References: <4756EBED.6050109@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4756EBED.6050109@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/117010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:05:43 -0000 On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 09:20:29PM +0300, sam wrote: > hi, all > > http://cs.udmvt.ru/files/temp/linux_getdents.tar.bz2 > test programs (include sources) for verify work of syscall 'getdents()' > on FreeBSD (thanx to NetXMS http://www.netxms.org developer Victor > Kirhenshtein) > > - program linux_getdents builded (dynamicaly linked) on Debian Etch 4.0 > rc1 (Linux kernel2.6.22-2-686) > normal working with big dirs (tested on FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT > linux_base-fc4, linux_base-fc6) > > - program linux_getdents builded (staticaly linked) on Debian Etch 4.0 > rc1 (Linux kernel2.6.22-2-686) > normal working with small dirs, crashed on big dirs (tested on FreeBSD > 8.0-CURRENT linux_base-fc4) can you please provide the "big dir" ? From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 11:30:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF66D16A41B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4160813C448 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so613747nfb for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:30:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hH3icN3EBK+En0YpcsLylmA9NpjZcp5cyaveP+fFK+g=; b=ONMEJew2P18bUVfV0KO4SVQUvi1WWttNv0a5nIIjaqOxX3KH3a7NCUZ0mDF4WDq5HKGEicqdSy0Njamc+Go9TcsuyH5Qo1b65OD1KwacDzn0Z1+Fc5ce3HbNARBkWbFrSKZ06X4buApSuWKL8g4TQTFqGKLNrISP5uiQ+hyVwM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GzU2Z7JJV5wXH/G1iV84APNaZrYXwqQjvgK6eGqgZQ7e/EIysufoGwdgN/MvRILEPsKIHB7eFZNGwqX9ghR7Fg7lEsTKGsU0gEvgnACC8ytLEQItETm5k7b0Q7qiG/N/UY2qgSNBxGLoCCytNP1MX9VZOScBhg31ovhcP3eZQcs= Received: by 10.86.4.2 with SMTP id 2mr3237441fgd.1197113401028; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.185? ( [213.152.137.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f19sm964389fka.2007.12.08.03.29.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:30:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475A808D.40005@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:31:25 +0300 From: sam User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Divacky References: <4756EBED.6050109@gmail.com> <20071208110538.GA44709@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20071208110538.GA44709@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/117010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:30:02 -0000 > > > can you please provide the "big dir" ? > > try on dir. with more files example: # ls -l /usr/share/man/man1 | wc -l 561 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 11:35:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB17916A419 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (vlk.vlakno.cz [62.168.28.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D9013C45B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3701666A775; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:35:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vlk.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HhkJMm8oGham; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:35:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FCA66A774; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:35:32 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lB8BZVDK045722; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:35:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:35:31 +0100 From: Roman Divacky To: sam Message-ID: <20071208113531.GA45695@freebsd.org> References: <4756EBED.6050109@gmail.com> <20071208110538.GA44709@freebsd.org> <475A808D.40005@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475A808D.40005@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/117010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:35:34 -0000 On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:31:25PM +0300, sam wrote: > > > > > >can you please provide the "big dir" ? > > > > > try on dir. with more files > > example: > # ls -l /usr/share/man/man1 | wc -l > 561 bash-3.00# ls /tmp/foo/ | wc -l 51451 works just fine on this From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 11:56:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1033416A417 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24D113C447 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so2116667waf for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:56:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EBTdzK141UhS7FRvf9fX9eiaBeeT3no2bMnqNDphBZU=; b=vrYJOiDCCmEHZKeoYCI0p+XISspOiYLNWgXE+zR+WDJn0SfDkU9BJBWA4HnxkM6fx6NXKQAvYnFxWGEqYsetYawwwX405RX0pfcVxecAiZP+Bs8V0T/zLhcBC+ITB2ElJ8SM90Ls6MiDe46qUvQ2N3RQpvBvHhOBJGy4uqGyZb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RlEJUqWTuzXx4TVfrMaGNdK3vcrY+K+rH/UcmP3jssn+/SR8dnTCXWnW/nwqWNtqgiYzHb6PMIbWGhTR1LchjF/d1VrE1K3bsme/NPmlR+vgp458EHLjU9sd2Vp6HWRxj9tuVrXZy1DCrYdD7rPBFly3JZV+v5eTyX2tu25sSFg= Received: by 10.142.88.20 with SMTP id l20mr2554256wfb.1197114987657; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.98.3 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 03:56:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53e3a9930712080356s1a5657f7kc959322f328ce37@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 06:56:27 -0500 From: "Tom Wickline" To: "Tom Wickline" , "Person, Roderick" , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071208090524.GB23649@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <53e3a9930712071334p546b8448y6974887cca2ed982@mail.gmail.com> <20071208090524.GB23649@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Cc: Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:56:31 -0000 On Dec 8, 2007 4:05 AM, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > > > Good stuff! Thanks for sharing this with community! Your welcome. > > One question: I have a specific application that my motherboard manufactu= rer > produces it's called "Abit =B5Guru". =B5Guru technology, allows the monit= oring/control > of the system's fan headers and the ability to set voltages and FSB rates= on the > fly [http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3D3142&p=3D4]. Problem is= , is that it > is only available in Windows! :( Do you think an app like this could be r= un from > within FreeBSD using WINE ? Sorry, but probabibly not. Tom Wickline > > > -aW > > IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Orga= nisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT= 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to cont= act the sender and delete the email. > > > From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 12:00:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D256E16A41B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED5513C44B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1097254rvb for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:00:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KBPVW/krlaIUpyeraDyl4gFxCWEycOagZiEqi+i5cc8=; b=Y3IX8s1jqYsU0Y70ILfjbUUTXWnkwkCj8oYp1qgMtezGpEW7klvtFJS6j+YMFJYSlMgQuIpc/WulYUH9ctA/yhDKdvfFThf01xZ+1ofacV0EQBsbpYI1qnHsAsKVdlyESDeO+nd2Jz01oICDdjQ9J4WNbchT27B9uAtEvPdK4O8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dd+frS8xDwSeIz1XcV8PMwGpk1LP8xJUEcoS+PrRNkM6NrvOe9U1uQ3XocDoOS1dd2ZBgzWLoAFvs89X0HmhSyB96KBUSdQ0ZdxG+hVF8IcaKTw5tpENffBVV+TfVz4EgbjgelSjIcTLqLPaCDVAvYI9liu2A1ZAXuhyk43EgHU= Received: by 10.142.214.5 with SMTP id m5mr2551156wfg.1197115200963; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.98.3 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 04:00:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53e3a9930712080400i77de722dia50a2fe420b27e59@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 07:00:00 -0500 From: "Tom Wickline" To: "Marc Fonvieille" In-Reply-To: <20071208102523.GA1489@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <20071206185852.GB1005@gothic.blackend.org> <53e3a9930712061109l3a12f8cane8c15bb1f4f5da8@mail.gmail.com> <20071208102523.GA1489@gothic.blackend.org> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:00:01 -0000 On Dec 8, 2007 5:25 AM, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > > > What you could try is to install dcom98 and in it will use a native storage.dll > > > > dcom98 "refuses" to be installed :) > Well, I assume Office 2k installs by default some of these files. That is normal, dcom98 wont install out of the box. > > > > fixme:storage:StgCreateDocfile Transacted mode not implemented. > > > > looks like the culprit.. i didn't run into this tho.. ill re-install > > Office 2k again and test everything > > another time. > > Please, try with a fresh wine install, i.e. starting without a populated > ~/.wine I will go through everything again from a clean .wine directory and take notes of each step along the way. I hope to get to this on Sunday :) Cheers, Tom Wickline > > -- > Marc > From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 8 12:03:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39CD16A46B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:03:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB7113C457 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samflanker@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so619773nfb for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:03:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BF38ijZ1ZiFuFgYtvdHhWqvLQXVyWkw7I9ZPlbFbhns=; b=h7QfmJDx09Twq6OqTu8GR7GVArl3eASEBpOqAkapuJLNyJuWK4paCvgHImIwPRBeV78+cIGGoyHTngu2Ai7w6L/9CN841KQkbSrRG6B1oN6uI58P7nFSC3ZEGydIUwJ8W16Q2U6/TwJUT7eOKm42AeWoIdTaWmiEGe00mrZOJZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L0KqYQNa9u0MscFjFYBy/dpDscWDQAFxTNI7yU27DoPpcQ1/PXh8OiZswUIZEeNzR3X90wu+dt0M0yszQGcperu10uXpFFUcpXwaoWAavuwdO57SEtkS/czVazE3yGKc0s2E5p27FBfUFZHL8l5nNo47S1AINwQWv3HPIQ7/MyE= Received: by 10.86.62.3 with SMTP id k3mr3275816fga.1197115432489; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.185? ( [213.152.137.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f31sm1000202fkf.2007.12.08.04.03.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:03:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475A887D.20604@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:05:17 +0300 From: sam User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Divacky References: <4756EBED.6050109@gmail.com> <20071208110538.GA44709@freebsd.org> <475A808D.40005@gmail.com> <20071208113531.GA45695@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20071208113531.GA45695@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/117010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:03:54 -0000 Roman Divacky wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:31:25PM +0300, sam wrote: > >>> can you please provide the "big dir" ? >>> >>> >>> >> try on dir. with more files >> >> example: >> # ls -l /usr/share/man/man1 | wc -l >> 561 >> > > bash-3.00# ls /tmp/foo/ | wc -l > 51451 > > works just fine on this > > Iam repacked http://cs.udmvt.ru/files/temp/linux_getdents.tar.bz2 # tar -tf linux_getdents.tar.bz2 linux_getdents_static linux_getdents_dynamic linux_getdents.c try both versions (static & dynamic)