From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 28 02:22:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D88C16A402; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A609513C478; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0S2LaJg069344; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:21:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:22:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20070127.192204.-862243883.imp@bsdimp.com> To: hselasky@c2i.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200701241254.51900.hselasky@c2i.net> References: <20070124113858.GG64263@hoeg.nl> <200701241254.51900.hselasky@c2i.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:21:40 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ed@fxq.nl, pietro.cerutti@gmail.com Subject: Re: atacontrol kernel crash (atausb?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:22:00 -0000 In message: <200701241254.51900.hselasky@c2i.net> Hans Petter Selasky writes: : Instead of having all these quirks, isn't it possible that the SCSI layer can : auto-probe this? The short answer is no. There's no reliable way to tell if a device supports a given scsi command, and some devices freak out (lock up) when sent one. Warner