From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 12 20:39:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86A416A400 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romantik1989@yandex.ru) Received: from mfront7.mail.yandex.net (mfront7.mail.yandex.net [213.180.223.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BB713C474; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romantik1989@yandex.ru) Received: from YAMAIL (mfront7.yandex.ru) by mail.yandex.ru id ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:16:27 +0300 Received: from [83.170.235.68] ([83.170.235.68]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:16:27 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:16:27 +0300 (MSK) From: "romantik1989" Sender: romantik1989@yandex.ru Message-Id: <45D0CB1B.000008.22515@mfront7.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] Errors-To: romantik1989@yandex.ru To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-MsgDayCount: 1 X-BornDate: 1131656400 X-Source-Ip: 83.170.235.68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: (command queuing) in controllers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: romantik1989@yandex.ru List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:39:11 -0000 Good evening, I would like to ask you about a help in the search of abstract, on a theme (Adaptec controller 2420SA or 2820SA passing in them (caching) and (command queuing)). I will be you very thank. Student of Kievan National University. Anikin Roman. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 14 15:23:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0781E16A402 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from smtp1.inkorgen.com (smtp1.inkorgen.com [82.99.44.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9087313C49D for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from proxy1.inkorgen.com (proxy1 [192.168.100.1]) by smtp1.inkorgen.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1EF14v2036512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:01:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [82.99.47.4] ([82.99.47.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by proxy1.inkorgen.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1EEu58X018956 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:56:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45D323C7.2050600@swehack.se> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:59:19 +0100 From: nocturnal User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on washer1.inkorgen.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Support for HP Smart Array 5i in ciss(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:23:42 -0000 Hi The hardware notes for 6.2-RELEASE say that the ciss(4) driver supports Compaq Smart Array 5i and HP Smart Array 6i but not HP Smart Array 5i. Are all the cards that follow this CISS standard listed there or is it possible that the driver will also support HP Smart Array 5i? I have not read the full data sheet from HP for the Smart Array 5i but i searched through it and could not find any mention of CISS. -- Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Midjich aka nocturnal [Swehack] http://swehack.se From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 14 16:27:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0F416A402 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from mta-2.ms.rz.rwth-aachen.de (mta-2.ms.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.7.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6BC13C4B8 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from circe ([134.130.3.36]) by mta-2.ms.rz.RWTH-Aachen.de (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JDG004ZEOD0T040@mta-2.ms.rz.RWTH-Aachen.de> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:27:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from talos.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.22]) by circe (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:26:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from bigboss.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (bigspace.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.2]) by smarthost.rwth-aachen.de (8.13.8/8.13.1/1) with ESMTP id l1EGQxSK030714; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:26:59 +0100 Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de ([137.226.181.92]) by bigboss.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HHMyB-0007Q5-IN; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:26:59 +0100 Received: by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1E19A3F41E; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:26:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:26:58 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: <45D323C7.2050600@swehack.se> To: nocturnal Message-id: <20070214162658.GA5159@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary=tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE X-PGP-Key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: <45D323C7.2050600@swehack.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for HP Smart Array 5i in ciss(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:27:41 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:59:19PM +0100, nocturnal wrote: > Hi >=20 > The hardware notes for 6.2-RELEASE say that the ciss(4) driver supports= =20 > Compaq Smart Array 5i and HP Smart Array 6i but not HP Smart Array 5i.=20 > Are all the cards that follow this CISS standard listed there or is it=20 > possible that the driver will also support HP Smart Array 5i? >=20 > I have not read the full data sheet from HP for the Smart Array 5i but i= =20 > searched through it and could not find any mention of CISS. > --=20 It's certainly possible that the driver supports your controller. The manpage says "Controllers supported by the ciss driver include..." for the exact reason that it's not en exhaustive list. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF0zhSbHYXjKDtmC0RAqsRAKCB9auwRYQF0I1l7CEUcLjDGK7NJgCfQ+Qx Z7Uqffebjt3JX6aoieVlX6Q= =jQ6z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 14 16:52:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF2916A400 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC6713C4B6 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (rgfelo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1EGqBhp042205; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:52:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l1EGqBnl042204; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:52:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:52:11 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200702141652.l1EGqBnl042204@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, nocturnal@swehack.se In-Reply-To: <45D323C7.2050600@swehack.se> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:52:17 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Support for HP Smart Array 5i in ciss(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, nocturnal@swehack.se List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:52:19 -0000 nocturnal wrote: > The hardware notes for 6.2-RELEASE say that the ciss(4) driver supports > Compaq Smart Array 5i and HP Smart Array 6i but not HP Smart Array 5i. I assume that "Compaq Smart Array 5i" and "HP Smart Array 5i" is the exact same thing. The 51 predates the merger of HP and Compaq, after which it was probably renamed because of markting purposes, but it is still the very same thing, technically. FreeBSD runs fine on one of those here (a ProLiant DL360). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart Any opinions expressed in this message are personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix GmbH & Co KG in any way. FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 14 19:46:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C3916A400 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:46:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from smtp1.inkorgen.com (smtp1.inkorgen.com [82.99.44.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651A513C4C5 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:46:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from proxy1.inkorgen.com (proxy1 [192.168.100.1]) by smtp1.inkorgen.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1EJjWeN075275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:45:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [85.24.149.192] (h-149-192.A175.cust.bahnhof.se [85.24.149.192]) (authenticated bits=0) by proxy1.inkorgen.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1EJeXXc021603; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:40:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45D366DD.4020304@swehack.se> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:45:33 +0100 From: nocturnal User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, nocturnal@swehack.se References: <200702141652.l1EGqBnl042204@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200702141652.l1EGqBnl042204@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on washer1.inkorgen.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: Support for HP Smart Array 5i in ciss(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:46:38 -0000 Hi I'm sorry for asking but you said you assume it would work then you said it is running for you on a ProLiant DL360. Are you saying that you do have the HP Smart Array 5i controller running on a ProLiant DL360? Thanks for your reply. Med vänliga hälsningar Stefan Midjich aka nocturnal [Swehack] http://swehack.se Oliver Fromme wrote: > nocturnal wrote: > > The hardware notes for 6.2-RELEASE say that the ciss(4) driver supports > > Compaq Smart Array 5i and HP Smart Array 6i but not HP Smart Array 5i. > > I assume that "Compaq Smart Array 5i" and "HP Smart Array 5i" > is the exact same thing. The 51 predates the merger of HP > and Compaq, after which it was probably renamed because of > markting purposes, but it is still the very same thing, > technically. > > FreeBSD runs fine on one of those here (a ProLiant DL360). > > Best regards > Oliver > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 14 21:28:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412C516A408 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A373913C4BA for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (wxklmr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1ELSAJM073687; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:28:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l1ELSAfL073686; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:28:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:28:10 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200702142128.l1ELSAfL073686@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, nocturnal@swehack.se In-Reply-To: <45D366DD.4020304@swehack.se> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:28:15 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Support for HP Smart Array 5i in ciss(4)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, nocturnal@swehack.se List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:28:17 -0000 nocturnal wrote: > I'm sorry for asking but you said you assume it would work then you said > it is running for you on a ProLiant DL360. Are you saying that you do > have the HP Smart Array 5i controller running on a ProLiant DL360? Yes. See the excerpt from the dmesg below. It's even from an old FreeBSD 4.x, but of course 6.x supports it as well. Don't be confused by the names Compaq vs. HP. As I wrote in my previous mail, Compaq was taken over by HP a few years ago, and all of the products were renamed, but they are technically the same. If you don't believe me, look up the PCI ID of the CISS 5i. It's 0x40800e11 for both "Compaq" and "HP". You "HP" one will probably be probed as being "Compaq", too, because the driver has no way to differentiate them. Best regards Oliver ciss0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xf7ef0000-0xf7ef3fff,0xf7fc0000-0xf7ffffff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci1 ciss0: using 256 of 1024 available commands ciss0: 1 logical drive configured ciss0: firmware 1.80 ciss0: 2 SCSI channels ciss0: signature 'CISS' ciss0: valence 1 ciss0: supported I/O methods 0xe ciss0: active I/O method 0x3 ciss0: 4G page base 0x00000000 ciss0: interrupt coalesce delay 1000us ciss0: interrupt coalesce count 16 ciss0: max outstanding commands 1024 ciss0: bus types 0x2 ciss0: server name '' ciss0: heartbeat 0x30000033 ciss0: 1 logical drive ciss0: logical drive 1: RAID 0, 16896MB online [...] Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 17359MB (35553120 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 4357C) -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart Any opinions expressed in this message are personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix GmbH & Co KG in any way. FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 07:56:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822CC16A408 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achilov-rn@askd.ru) Received: from to-495.askd.ru (master.askd.ru [80.242.75.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D5413C428 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achilov-rn@askd.ru) Received: from to-495.askd.ru (IDENT:shelton@localhost.askd.ru [127.0.0.1]) by to-495.askd.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1F7g9Sp007784 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:42:09 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from achilov-rn@askd.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by to-495.askd.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1F7g6Fq007778 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:42:06 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from achilov-rn@askd.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: to-495.askd.ru: shelton set sender to achilov-rn@askd.ru using -f From: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: =?koi8-r?b?7+/v?= "=?koi8-r?b?4fMt88nT1MXNwQ==?= =?koi8-r?b?IOvPzdDMxcvT?=" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:42:06 +0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702151342.06405.achilov-rn@askd.ru> Subject: 6.2-RELEASE on Intel DQ965GF X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Achilov, Rashid" List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:56:19 -0000 I have just installed 6.2-RELEASE on Intel DQ965GF m/b-based box (with 2 SATA HDD). When I have connected an NEC DVD-ROM to PATA interface with FreeBSD installation disk, I can boot from it, but I cannot use it. Generic kernel detects a huge pile of ata interfaces (imagine, I have ad12 and ad14 instead of usually ad0 and ad1 :ROFL:) but cannot detect ATAPI devices on PATA, so cannot use dvd to install, so I must install systen from ny own FTP server. Of course, that's will be a server. Server does not need DVD-ROM. It's only academical interest - why ATAPI did not detect? I have flashed new BIOS - no success. Some kernel customization can helps me? -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Web: http://www.askd.ru/~shelton OOO "ACK" telecommunications administrator, e-mail: achilov-rn [at] askd.ru PGP: 83 CD E2 A7 37 4A D5 81 D6 D6 52 BF C9 2F 85 AF 97 BE CB 0A From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 10:13:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813C916A402 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagelstein@shr.cc) Received: from shr.cc (webmail.shr.cc [213.221.88.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC7713C47E for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagelstein@shr.cc) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:56:51 +0100 Message-ID: <05F5882A865FBB4EB684C22EA83529094A4B11@mailserver.open.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 3ware 9650SE performance issues Thread-Index: AcdQ551sde5H1osGTgmAEgXYlxLGMQ== From: "Nikolas Hagelstein" To: Subject: 3ware 9650SE performance issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:13:52 -0000 Hi, I am running the 3ware 9650SE(8LPML) in RAID5 with 7x700GB drives attached to it (~4.2 TB at raid5). Since i need one huge "storage area" the filesystem resides at the raw device (i.e. /dev/da0). For some reasons the raids write performance is very slow (2 to 3MB/s): 33554432 bytes transferred in 14.679426 secs (2285814 bytes/sec)=20 The raid is initialized and all disks are ok (double checked that) I tried several different filesystem and raidcontroller options (e.g. blocksize,frag, Slicesice etc.) without any success. Another strange thing: for testing prupose i set the controllerto raid0 mode which resulted in 55MB/s. Though raid0 is faster than raid5 by principle that anyhow seems really strange to me. I am not sure if this is a pure hardware related issue since "raw access" performes quite good: diskinfo -t /dev/da0 /dev/da0 512 # sectorsize 4499932446720 # mediasize in bytes (4.1T) 8788930560 # mediasize in sectors 547085 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. .... Transfer rates: outside: 102400 kbytes in 1.052566 sec =3D 97286 kbytes/sec middle: 102400 kbytes in 1.065493 sec =3D 96106 kbytes/sec inside: 102400 kbytes in 1.067073 sec =3D 95963 kbytes/sec I attached any needed information: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE Dmesg snippet(a full version can be find here:http://phpfi.com/203614): --- 3ware device driver for 9000 series storage controllers, version: 3.60.03.005 twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xde000000-0xdfffffff,0xbffff000-0xbfffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 twa0: [GIANT-LOCKED] twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-8LPML, 8 ports, Firmware FE9X 3.06.00.005, BIOS BE9X 3.06.00.002 da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 4291470MB (8788930560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 547085C) --- --- tunefs -p /dev/da0 tunefs: ACLs: (-a) disabled tunefs: MAC multilabel: (-l) disabled tunefs: soft updates: (-n) disabled tunefs: gjournal: (-J) disabled tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e) 2048 tunefs: average file size: (-f) 16384 tunefs: average number of files in a directory: (-s) 64 tunefs: minimum percentage of free space: (-m) 8% tunefs: optimization preference: (-o) time tunefs: volume label: (-L) --- --- Ctl Model Ports Drives Units NotOpt RRate VRate BBU ------------------------------------------------------------------------ c0 9650SE-8LPML 8 7 1 0 1 1 - //backup> /c0 show Unit UnitType Status %RCmpl %V/I/M Stripe Size(GB) Cache AVrfy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ u0 RAID-5 OK - - 256K 4190.89 OFF OFF Port Status Unit Size Blocks Serial --------------------------------------------------------------- p0 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0Q4N6 p1 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0RYEP p2 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0HEZM p3 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0PZK7 p4 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD07Q7G p5 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0PX0J p6 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0M5VQ p7 NOT-PRESENT - - - - --- Cheers, Nikolas From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 11:00:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B8916A401 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-hardware@mawer.org) Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony11.iinet.net.au (customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony11.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC7113C478 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-hardware@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [10.24.1.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony11.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2007 18:49:34 +0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAGvJ00XLzq3r/2dsb2JhbAANoXkBAQGBGg X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,174,1170604800"; d="scan'208"; a="150598586:sNHT48326985" Message-ID: <45D43ADD.5050303@mawer.org> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:50:05 +1100 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Achilov, Rashid" References: <200702151342.06405.achilov-rn@askd.ru> In-Reply-To: <200702151342.06405.achilov-rn@askd.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.2-RELEASE on Intel DQ965GF X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:00:03 -0000 On 15/02/2007 6:42 PM, Rashid N. Achilov wrote: > I have just installed 6.2-RELEASE on Intel DQ965GF m/b-based box (with 2 SATA > HDD). When I have connected an NEC DVD-ROM to PATA interface with FreeBSD > installation disk, I can boot from it, but I cannot use it. Generic kernel > detects a huge pile of ata interfaces (imagine, I have ad12 and ad14 instead > of usually ad0 and ad1 :ROFL:) but cannot detect ATAPI devices on PATA, so > cannot use dvd to install, so I must install systen from ny own FTP server. > > Of course, that's will be a server. Server does not need DVD-ROM. It's only > academical interest - why ATAPI did not detect? I have flashed new BIOS - no > success. Some kernel customization can helps me? The PATA connector on these boards are a Marvell chip, and 6.2 does not support this. I know that Soren (sos@) was aware of this and had hardware, and I recently saw a commit that I think adds support to this to -CURRENT (it hasn't been MFC'd to 6.x yet). See this commit: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c?rev=1.179&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup I will be attempting an MFC of this in coming days, as we are looking at using these boards on several systems soon. If I remember to, I will post the results of my MFC'ing once done :-) --Antony From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 11:31:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A36616A406 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9295B13C467 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so116485ugh for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:31:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jSYB9bmH6NxGF2PA03xchJbrICoNfdss6bFiEfZgmdhVMEzoyvh/t5TSRcZEnTMWS65MmcBoWi1oa6fPvTh++PUHlIjK8QTh+c9CFIXEG+vUsedpQQs0NqBgbLAm5qQQu7nBnXS9pgV05rvtWE0XCSEINkiu1X7wmGVppC4zdQI= Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr2561075buc.1171539098651; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.135.17 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:31:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0702150331w17bf331dn25cea69f32894e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:31:38 +0000 From: Chris To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0702060701u4741dc0bie40ab3442aa2a979@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3aaaa3a0702060701u4741dc0bie40ab3442aa2a979@mail.gmail.com> Subject: nforce4 on freebsd 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:31:41 -0000 I noticed one of my servers works much better in freebsd 5 noticeably it is faster and more stable. I then found this post. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2005-May/050529.html and http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=75540 So in freebsd 5.x there was limited nforce 4 support for pata devices and a patch made to support sata devices, so I checked the same file on freebsd 6.2 and there is no reference to ATA_NFORCE4 at all in the file, checked 5.4 and sure enough its there. So my question is why did ata-chipset.c in 2004 have some support for nforce4 and a patch in current which I think was 6.x at the time have support for sata and now nforce4 is completely wiped in 6.x? Was it not stable and scrapped for timescale to release or some other reason? nforce4 is a fairly popular chipset. My 150 sata hd is running in some sort of compatibility mode now as a result of the lack of a driver. Chris From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 15:16:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1FD16A421 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (ns.freebsdsystems.com [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF82C13C49D for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: (qmail 4012 invoked by uid 89); 15 Feb 2007 15:09:52 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 4005, pid: 4009, t: 0.1251s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m:42/d:2553 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (lnb@freebsdsystems.com@216.235.8.115) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with ESMTPA; 15 Feb 2007 15:09:52 -0000 Message-ID: <45D47785.5020806@freebsdsystems.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:08:53 -0500 From: Lanny Baron Organization: Freedom Technologies / FreeBSD Systems User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claude Khalil References: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> In-Reply-To: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:16:48 -0000 Hi Claude, Perhaps you should have called us first and we would have saved you a BIG headache. The onboard RAID is only supported for Red Hat and Windows and perhaps a couple of other name brand Linux distros. Regards, ___________________________________________________ Lanny Baron Freedom Technologies Corporation Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 High Performance Servers and RAID Storage Systems http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM ___________________________________________________ Claude Khalil wrote: > Hello, > > I have seeked help from the newsgroup but since this is a real hardware > problem, I hope that you can assist... > > We have purchased an Intel server (board + chassis) > SR1500ALSAS (the board is S5000PAL) > http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/s5000pal/sb/CS-022639.htm > > The Intel RAID controller was configured from the vendor for 2 SATA HD > in RAID1. But FreeBSD 6.2 do not see the logical drive but both HD... > > Intel support RedHat and Suse... I am NOT looking for a complete > solution with OS/RAID communication but a basic RAID mirror on both > disks. I can manage lack of disk status. > > Hoping for a driver support in 6.3 seems like a nightmare. Is there a > way? What do you suggest? It seems I have a useless server or that I > will have to settle for a software mirror... > > Thank you for your help! > -- > Claude > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 15:31:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FE916A401 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (ns.freebsdsystems.com [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CDE13C474 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: (qmail 3383 invoked by uid 89); 15 Feb 2007 15:05:02 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 3376, pid: 3380, t: 0.1160s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m:42/d:2553 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (lnb@freebsdsystems.com@216.235.8.115) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with ESMTPA; 15 Feb 2007 15:05:02 -0000 Message-ID: <45D47663.1020201@freebsdsystems.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:04:03 -0500 From: Lanny Baron Organization: Freedom Technologies / FreeBSD Systems User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bachi@te-clan.ch References: <380ccfd60702090235x12b8ac1cpc15d3652b8281b6b@mail.gmail.com> <7732.193.134.254.115.1171018931.squirrel@webmail.te-clan.ch> In-Reply-To: <7732.193.134.254.115.1171018931.squirrel@webmail.te-clan.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: schweizer.martin@gmail.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel server: Hardware support for FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:31:58 -0000 HI Martin, Take a look at our site http://www.freebsdsystems.com/sata2_rackserver_multicore.php. Guaranteed to work with FreeBSD period. Regards, ___________________________________________________ Lanny Baron Freedom Technologies Corporation Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 High Performance Servers and RAID Storage Systems http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM ___________________________________________________ bachi@te-clan.ch wrote: > Hi Martin, > > Look at this page: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html > HP ProLiant DL360 G5 / Intel E5000P > Is this your answer? > > Regards, > > Andreas > >> Hello >> >> I'looking for a new Intel server with a Intel Server board S5000P in it. >> Does anybody know it is supported by 6.2. I did not find a hint in the >> hardware notes. >> Any hints are welcome. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Martin Schweizer >> schweizer.martin@gmail.com >> Tel.: +41 32 512 48 54 (VoIP) >> Fax: +1 619 3300587 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 15:54:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C987816A400 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gid.co.uk [194.32.164.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E8D13C442 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from prune.gid.co.uk (host-83-146-60-88.bulldogdsl.com [83.146.60.88]) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1FFs7Hk091847; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:54:08 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Message-Id: <200702151554.l1FFs7Hk091847@gidgate.gid.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:53:50 +0000 To: Lanny Baron , Claude Khalil From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <45D47785.5020806@freebsdsystems.com> References: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> <45D47785.5020806@freebsdsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:54:13 -0000 Hi, At 15:08 15/02/2007, Lanny Baron wrote: >[...]The onboard RAID is only supported for Red Hat and Windows and >perhaps a couple of other name brand Linux distros. [etc] Untrue. See the following dmesg highlights: ... FreeBSD 6.1-20060910-SNAP #0: Tue Oct 17 18:08:31 BST 2006 ... cpi0: on motherboard ... atapci1: port 0x40d8-0x40df,0x40f4-0x40f7,0x40d0-0x40d7,0x40f0-0x40f3,0x4020-0x403f mem 0xb8c00000-0xb8c003ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 ... ad4: 239372MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 239372MB at ata3-master SATA300 ar0: 238418MB status: READY ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master ------------------------------ Chris Bishop www.chrisbishop.org chris@chrisbishop.org +44 (0)7776 258368 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 17:59:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5051216A400 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3421613C481 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=roam.psg.com) by rip.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HHkj2-0002mx-7p; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:48:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=roam.psg.com) by roam.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HHke9-0001Ot-Cb; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:43:53 -1000 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17876.39896.647944.453921@roam.psg.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:43:52 -1000 To: Lanny Baron References: <380ccfd60702090235x12b8ac1cpc15d3652b8281b6b@mail.gmail.com> <7732.193.134.254.115.1171018931.squirrel@webmail.te-clan.ch> <45D47663.1020201@freebsdsystems.com> Cc: schweizer.martin@gmail.com, bachi@te-clan.ch, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel server: Hardware support for FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:59:53 -0000 > From: Lanny Baron > To: bachi@te-clan.ch > Cc: schweizer.martin@gmail.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Intel server: Hardware support for FreeBSD 6.2 > > HI Martin, > > Take a look at our site > http://www.freebsdsystems.com/sata2_rackserver_multicore.php. Guaranteed > to work with FreeBSD period. > Regards, > ___________________________________________________ > Lanny Baron > Freedom Technologies Corporation > Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 > High Performance Servers and RAID Storage Systems > > http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM > ___________________________________________________ could someone please remove this spammer from the lists. and lanny, your company's name is now up in lights as a NEVER BUY FROM THIS SLIME. if a company has sufficient lack of integrity to spam, then who would be stupid enough to buy from them? randy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 18:57:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFF616A400 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (ns.freebsdsystems.com [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B8713C461 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: (qmail 35668 invoked by uid 89); 15 Feb 2007 18:56:45 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 35643, pid: 35665, t: 0.1158s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m:42/d:2553 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (lnb@freebsdsystems.com@216.235.8.115) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with ESMTPA; 15 Feb 2007 18:56:45 -0000 Message-ID: <45D4ACB2.6070904@freebsdsystems.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:55:46 -0500 From: Lanny Baron Organization: Freedom Technologies / FreeBSD Systems User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Bishop References: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> <45D47785.5020806@freebsdsystems.com> <200702151554.l1FFs7Hk091847@gidgate.gid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200702151554.l1FFs7Hk091847@gidgate.gid.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Claude Khalil , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:57:01 -0000 Hi Bob, That is very odd. In our testing when enabling the onboard software RAID it would show up as AD4 and AD6 as you show below. And this was with 6.2-RELEASE/AMD64. Are you running i386? Please let me know. Thanks Bob. Regards, ___________________________________________________ Lanny Baron Freedom Technologies Corporation Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 High Performance Servers and RAID Storage Systems http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM ___________________________________________________ Bob Bishop wrote: > Hi, > > At 15:08 15/02/2007, Lanny Baron wrote: >> [...]The onboard RAID is only supported for Red Hat and Windows and >> perhaps a couple of other name brand Linux distros. [etc] > > Untrue. See the following dmesg highlights: > > ... > FreeBSD 6.1-20060910-SNAP #0: Tue Oct 17 18:08:31 BST 2006 > ... > cpi0: on motherboard > ... > atapci1: port > 0x40d8-0x40df,0x40f4-0x40f7,0x40d0-0x40d7,0x40f0-0x40f3,0x4020-0x403f > mem 0xb8c00000-0xb8c003ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 > ... > ad4: 239372MB at ata2-master SATA300 > ad6: 239372MB at ata3-master SATA300 > ar0: 238418MB status: READY > ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master > ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master > ------------------------------ > Chris Bishop > www.chrisbishop.org > chris@chrisbishop.org > +44 (0)7776 258368 > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 19:27:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0A916A402 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gid.co.uk [194.32.164.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F4613C4B3 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from prune.gid.co.uk (host-83-146-60-88.bulldogdsl.com [83.146.60.88]) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1FJR0aQ094039; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:27:00 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Message-Id: <200702151927.l1FJR0aQ094039@gidgate.gid.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:26:42 +0000 To: Lanny Baron From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <45D4ACB2.6070904@freebsdsystems.com> References: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> <45D47785.5020806@freebsdsystems.com> <200702151554.l1FFs7Hk091847@gidgate.gid.co.uk> <45D4ACB2.6070904@freebsdsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Claude Khalil , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:27:03 -0000 At 18:55 15/02/2007, Lanny Baron wrote: >Hi Bob, > >That is very odd. In our testing when enabling the onboard software >RAID it would show up as AD4 and AD6 as you show below. And this was >with 6.2-RELEASE/AMD64. Are you running i386? Please let me know. That box is running i386 but I don't see why it would make a difference. I did have to do the usual 'atacontrol create' from fixit before installing to persuade sysinstall to see ar0. It really is all working, we had a drive fail and I did the hot swap and 'atacontrol rebuild' thing. >Thanks Bob. >Regards, >___________________________________________________ >Lanny Baron >Freedom Technologies Corporation >Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 >High Performance Servers and RAID Storage Systems > >http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM >___________________________________________________ > > >Bob Bishop wrote: >>Hi, >>At 15:08 15/02/2007, Lanny Baron wrote: >>>[...]The onboard RAID is only supported for Red Hat and Windows >>>and perhaps a couple of other name brand Linux distros. [etc] >>Untrue. See the following dmesg highlights: >>... >>FreeBSD 6.1-20060910-SNAP #0: Tue Oct 17 18:08:31 BST 2006 >>... >>cpi0: on motherboard >>... >>atapci1: port >>0x40d8-0x40df,0x40f4-0x40f7,0x40d0-0x40d7,0x40f0-0x40f3,0x4020-0x403 >>f mem 0xb8c00000-0xb8c003ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 >>... >>ad4: 239372MB at ata2-master SATA300 >>ad6: 239372MB at ata3-master SATA300 >>ar0: 238418MB status: READY >>ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master >>ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master >>------------------------------ -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 956 1248 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 958 9005 mobile +44 (0)783 626 4518 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 19:53:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8684916A401 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (ns.freebsdsystems.com [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352D413C494 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: (qmail 43507 invoked by uid 89); 15 Feb 2007 19:53:09 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 43500, pid: 43504, t: 0.1394s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m:42/d:2553 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (lnb@freebsdsystems.com@216.235.8.115) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with ESMTPA; 15 Feb 2007 19:53:08 -0000 Message-ID: <45D4B9E9.8000809@freebsdsystems.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:52:09 -0500 From: Lanny Baron Organization: Freedom Technologies / FreeBSD Systems User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Bishop References: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> <45D47785.5020806@freebsdsystems.com> <200702151554.l1FFs7Hk091847@gidgate.gid.co.uk> <45D4ACB2.6070904@freebsdsystems.com> <200702151927.l1FJR0aQ094039@gidgate.gid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200702151927.l1FJR0aQ094039@gidgate.gid.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Claude Khalil , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:53:26 -0000 Hi Bob, So let me get this right. You installed FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE i386 and it does not see ar0 and when you get to disk partion in the install menu it will only report ad4, ad6 ... etc? Regards, ___________________________________________________ Lanny Baron Freedom Technologies Corporation Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 High Performance Servers and RAID Storage Systems http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM ___________________________________________________ Bob Bishop wrote: > At 18:55 15/02/2007, Lanny Baron wrote: >> Hi Bob, >> >> That is very odd. In our testing when enabling the onboard software >> RAID it would show up as AD4 and AD6 as you show below. And this was >> with 6.2-RELEASE/AMD64. Are you running i386? Please let me know. > > That box is running i386 but I don't see why it would make a difference. > I did have to do the usual 'atacontrol create' from fixit before > installing to persuade sysinstall to see ar0. > > It really is all working, we had a drive fail and I did the hot swap and > 'atacontrol rebuild' thing. > >> Thanks Bob. >> Regards, >> ___________________________________________________ >> Lanny Baron >> Freedom Technologies Corporation >> Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 >> High Performance Servers and RAID Storage Systems >> >> http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM >> ___________________________________________________ >> >> >> Bob Bishop wrote: >>> Hi, >>> At 15:08 15/02/2007, Lanny Baron wrote: >>>> [...]The onboard RAID is only supported for Red Hat and Windows and >>>> perhaps a couple of other name brand Linux distros. [etc] >>> Untrue. See the following dmesg highlights: >>> ... >>> FreeBSD 6.1-20060910-SNAP #0: Tue Oct 17 18:08:31 BST 2006 >>> ... >>> cpi0: on motherboard >>> ... >>> atapci1: port >>> 0x40d8-0x40df,0x40f4-0x40f7,0x40d0-0x40d7,0x40f0-0x40f3,0x4020-0x403 >>> f mem 0xb8c00000-0xb8c003ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 >>> ... >>> ad4: 239372MB at ata2-master SATA300 >>> ad6: 239372MB at ata3-master SATA300 >>> ar0: 238418MB status: READY >>> ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master >>> ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master >>> ------------------------------ > > > -- > Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 956 1248 > rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 958 9005 > mobile +44 (0)783 626 4518 > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 15 20:26:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9250A16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gid.co.uk [194.32.164.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E8B13C461 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from prune.gid.co.uk (host-83-146-60-88.bulldogdsl.com [83.146.60.88]) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1FKQmMa094662; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:26:49 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Message-Id: <200702152026.l1FKQmMa094662@gidgate.gid.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:26:31 +0000 To: Lanny Baron From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <45D4B9E9.8000809@freebsdsystems.com> References: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> <45D47785.5020806@freebsdsystems.com> <200702151554.l1FFs7Hk091847@gidgate.gid.co.uk> <45D4ACB2.6070904@freebsdsystems.com> <200702151927.l1FJR0aQ094039@gidgate.gid.co.uk> <45D4B9E9.8000809@freebsdsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Claude Khalil , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:26:52 -0000 At 19:52 15/02/2007, Lanny Baron wrote: >Hi Bob, >So let me get this right. You installed FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE i386 Actually RELENG_6 i386, post 6.1R >and it does not see ar0 and when you get to disk partion in the >install menu it will only report ad4, ad6 ... etc? Yes. I've found this is not unusual with S(ATA) RAID controllers, and often had to do an 'atacontrol create' to persuade sysinstall that it really is a RAID. But as you can see from >>ar0: 238418MB status: READY it's all OK once the system is installed. -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 940 1243 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 940 1295 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 17 16:42:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D17E16A400 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from talk.nabble.com (www.nabble.com [72.21.53.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542FD13C467 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from [72.21.53.38] (helo=jubjub.nabble.com) by talk.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HISOM-0000Ch-6T for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:26:30 -0800 Message-ID: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:26:30 -0800 (PST) From: satimis To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: satimis@yahoo.com Subject: About ideal RAM capacity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:42:58 -0000 Hi folks, I'm prepared to run FreeBSD-6.2 amd64 on an AMD Athlon64 x2 (dualcore) 512Kx2 3800 box as server. What will be an ideal RAM capacity to be installed. TIA B.R. satimis -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/About-ideal-RAM-capacity-tf3245275.html#a9021341 Sent from the freebsd-hardware mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 17 18:00:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E3516A407 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A032313C48E for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so351113ugh for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:00:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=fHvH6V3AObHO6vMD3KkuVEKZ+MNB++cGbpt1mA1h44mLz/wslgtF2nMCCc9icRbOz9SdiVnFNXzwwcsUC8pbi3xjeoulmPq5T9Uqtiq4bMQmCXj2CauGarW0uPmqEdQUtMaf47Fq7coytbk4uIB1reXKdDLka/2H2m34cohAs/U= Received: by 10.78.176.20 with SMTP id y20mr110256hue.1171735245914; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:00:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:00:45 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: satimis In-Reply-To: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e617d6e02228f036 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About ideal RAM capacity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:00:49 -0000 On 2/17/07, satimis wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm prepared to run FreeBSD-6.2 amd64 on an AMD Athlon64 x2 (dualcore) > 512Kx2 3800 box as server. What will be an ideal RAM capacity to be > installed. TIA You can perform a binary search, benchmarking 2^n Mb of RAM installed where n is 10..infinity. Athlon64 x2 motherboards with support for over 64 Gb are hard to come by nowadays, though. Good luck! From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 17 19:05:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF7A16A402; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02B013C478; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:05:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1HIUZi-0000dm-5B>; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:46:22 +0100 Received: from e178016030.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.16.30] helo=[192.168.1.128]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1HIUZi-0000Ft-2A>; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:46:22 +0100 Message-ID: <45D74DA9.1020403@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:47:05 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070211) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Pantyukhin References: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.16.30 Cc: satimis , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About ideal RAM capacity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:05:34 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 2/17/07, satimis wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I'm prepared to run FreeBSD-6.2 amd64 on an AMD Athlon64 x2 (dualcore) >> 512Kx2 3800 box as server. What will be an ideal RAM capacity to be >> installed. TIA > > You can perform a binary search, benchmarking 2^n Mb of RAM > installed where n is 10..infinity. Athlon64 x2 motherboards > with support for over 64 Gb are hard to come by nowadays, > though. > > Good luck! At this moment, you will be limited to 4GB RAM for single socket Opterons (1xxx series for AM2, 1xx series for socket 939). The 4GB limitation is a hard limit for socket 939 boxes, due to the memory controler is incapable of handling more than 4 memory slots divided into two channels and due to JEDEC limitations for DDR400 RAM each memory stick can hold up to 1GB. For AM2 socket single Opteron boards or Athlon64 chips the limitation is due to the lack of suitable and fast (and affordable) 2GB sticks (DDR2-800). Multisocket Opterons use a different memory controller which is capable of handling registered memory sticks, so the capacity of each stick can rise up to 2 GB or 4 GB per stick. Unfortunately, AMD did not offer their single socket Opterons (neither Socket 939, nor AM2) with a registered memory controller, so they simply are the same as their Athlon64 counterparts of the same production line, but you pay sometimes as double as much for the brand 'Opteron'. Nearby, it would have been a great benefit if someone could apply Athlon64 chips to a server motherboard (like TYAN's Socket 939 or AM2 Opteron server boards) for low cost/entry purposes with memory limit to 4GB and then upgrade to Opteron/single socket with an integrated registered memory controller to raise the memory limit up to 8 or 16 GB (socket 939 or AM2 respective). But I do not know whether we need more pins wiring from the socket to the memory slots in case of registered memory support (I doubt that). So, sorry for the long explanations and bothering, your memory demand depends on what your server will 'serve'. In many cases, 2GB memory is enough, but for database servers, webservers with an expected high load 4GB RAM would be eligible. If your Athlon64 box is an outdated Socket 939, you should be aware of the fact, that the memory controller slows down its speed from DDR400 to DDR333 and command-T cycle from 1T to 2T if you apply 4GB! In most cases you still are able to run them stable with 200/400 MHz (high quality memory), but command cycle latency is then set to 2T. If memory speed isn't the point, forget about what I said. Regards, Oliver