From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 19 08:04:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97A216A402 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782E913C4A8 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (ipknwl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1J84oWn012594; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:04:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l1J84ngm012593; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:04:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:04:49 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200702190804.l1J84ngm012593@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, satimis@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:04:55 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: About ideal RAM capacity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, satimis@yahoo.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:04:57 -0000 satimis wrote: > I'm prepared to run FreeBSD-6.2 amd64 on an AMD Athlon64 x2 (dualcore) > 512Kx2 3800 box as server. What will be an ideal RAM capacity to be > installed. TIA It depends entirely on what you are planning to run on that machine. The kind of CPU is pretty much irrelevant. For example, if you're planning to run it as DNS server, router and/or packet filter, then about 128 to 256 MB will probably suffice. ;-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart Any opinions expressed in this message are personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix GmbH & Co KG in any way. FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "In My Egoistical Opinion, most people's C programs should be indented six feet downward and covered with dirt." -- Blair P. Houghton From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 19 11:00:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB4216A402 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achilov-rn@askd.ru) Received: from to-495.askd.ru (master.askd.ru [80.242.75.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C0113C4AA for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achilov-rn@askd.ru) Received: from to-495.askd.ru (IDENT:shelton@localhost.askd.ru [127.0.0.1]) by to-495.askd.ru (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1JB0voj032885 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:00:57 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from achilov-rn@askd.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by to-495.askd.ru (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l1JB0tC3032884 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:00:55 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from achilov-rn@askd.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: to-495.askd.ru: shelton set sender to achilov-rn@askd.ru using -f From: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: =?koi8-r?b?7+/v?= "=?koi8-r?b?4fMt88nT1MXNwQ==?= =?koi8-r?b?IOvPzdDMxcvT?=" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:00:55 +0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702191700.55722.achilov-rn@askd.ru> Subject: Floppy drive on Intel m/b X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Achilov, Rashid" List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:01:00 -0000 I had have catched by very strange and frustrating bug, which appeared only (at least by me) on Intel motherboards - D945GNT, DQ965GF. When I try to load GENERIC kernel, system stops sometime after detecting all HDD's, when probed FDD. When I try to load customized kernel, system stops here - it infinitely doing "FDD status" from SECOND FDD, which for ages switched off. I think some "more stupid" BIOS simply reported "no second FDD", but Intel hadn't these in their BIOS and kernel INFINITELY does request FDD status and boot stops here! I think, when doing probe (at least FDD's), unavailability status info sholud be equal "no device" That was a very simply solution: echo "hint.fd.1.disabled=\"1\"" >> /boot/device.hints But I think, here is invalid policy - boot MUST NOT stopped, even status info about some devices unavailable. -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Web: http://www.askd.ru/~shelton OOO "ACK" telecommunications administrator, e-mail: achilov-rn [at] askd.ru PGP: 83 CD E2 A7 37 4A D5 81 D6 D6 52 BF C9 2F 85 AF 97 BE CB 0A From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 19 12:43:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C972A16A400 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from smeltpunt.science.ru.nl (smeltpunt.science.ru.nl [131.174.16.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685C413C428 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from n142198.science.ru.nl [131.174.142.198] (helo=n142198.science.ru.nl) by smeltpunt.science.ru.nl (8.13.7/5.11) with ESMTP id l1JChNpd028596; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:43:24 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot Organization: KDE e.V. To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:44:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702191344.04383.groot@kde.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 131.174.16.145 Cc: Subject: SiI3124 / ATA hw.end_transaction X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:43:26 -0000 At the beginning of February I posted [1] that I had a SiI3124 (SATA-II, RAID, PCI-X) card (works in PCI slot, too) for testing and that worst-case I would write the driver myself. Since there was no response, I wrote the driver myself. Mostly, anyway. I've written it to be part of the ata driver (long term this does not seem like a good idea, what with PMs pushing the number of devices per SATA channel > 1; having one CAM bus would be doable, I think, since 4 ports * hypothetical 15-port-multiplier is as far as this chipset can go) and so far it handles interrupts and ATA IDENTIFY returns the correct information. So I end up with (paraphrase, the machine I have the hardware in isn't connected today): atapci1: SiI 3124 ata6: .. ata9: ad12: TOSHIBA ... on ata6-master Anyway, I'm having real trouble figuring out how the hw.begin_transaction, hw.end_transaction and hw.status methods interact in struct ata_lowlevel. Commands are issued (like ATA INDENTIFY) and go through begin_transaction. I post the command to the device. On next interrupt for the channel (meaning the command is completed) .. something. This is where I don't understand what is happening or what is supposed to happen. status returns 0 or 1; in ata-chipset.c these are typically documented as "have seen any device action", but I don't know entirely what this is supposed to check. Given the context I may be able to just return 1, but ata_pci_status() returns 0 if the channel is busy (by the taskfile registers). And then there's the end_transaction stuff; this should, presumably, set request->result and request->error and request->status. Here, I'm in the dark as to what values mean what. I've tried just retrieving them from the taskfile (on the assumption that the 3124 updates the FIS after command completion) but all I get for my trouble are request timeouts for SETMODE, ENABLE_WCACHE, ... and the occasional READ_LBA. Booting this way takes a long time, but eventually the ATA system gives up on the disk and boot continues normally -- woe betide if I try dd if=/dev/ad12 though :) So my question is particularly: what are status and end_transaction expected to do? Is there documentation anywhere? dev/ata/* seems very light on how-it-works and design docs -- although the code is clean and usually explains what it is doing, so I've been able to get this far. [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2007-February/004184.html -- Adriaan de Groot KDE Quality Team http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/ SQO-OSS Researcher http://www.sqo-oss.eu/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 19 13:09:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF5C16A481 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from talk.nabble.com (www.nabble.com [72.21.53.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9C113C491 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from [72.21.53.38] (helo=jubjub.nabble.com) by talk.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HJ8Gs-0005hO-Fh for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:09:34 -0800 Message-ID: <9041989.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:09:34 -0800 (PST) From: satimis To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200702190804.l1J84ngm012593@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: satimis@yahoo.com References: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com> <200702190804.l1J84ngm012593@lurza.secnetix.de> Subject: Re: About ideal RAM capacity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:09:34 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > > satimis wrote: > > I'm prepared to run FreeBSD-6.2 amd64 on an AMD Athlon64 x2 (dualcore) > > 512Kx2 3800 box as server. What will be an ideal RAM capacity to be > > installed. TIA > > It depends entirely on what you are planning to run on that > machine. The kind of CPU is pretty much irrelevant. > > For example, if you're planning to run it as DNS server, > router and/or packet filter, then about 128 to 256 MB will > probably suffice. ;-) > Noted with tks. B.R. satimis -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/About-ideal-RAM-capacity-tf3245275.html#a9041989 Sent from the freebsd-hardware mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 19 16:24:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D0816A401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@hausro.de) Received: from mail3.netbeat.de (mail3.netbeat.de [83.243.58.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A94513C4A6 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@hausro.de) Received: (qmail 5476 invoked by uid 89); 19 Feb 2007 15:58:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rage) (86.104.203.150) by mail3.netbeat.de with SMTP; 19 Feb 2007 15:58:45 -0000 Message-ID: <00b401c7543e$be6f4fe0$847ba8c0@Rage> From: "ANdrei" To: "satimis" References: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com><200702190804.l1J84ngm012593@lurza.secnetix.de> <9041989.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:58:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About ideal RAM capacity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:24:47 -0000 In a company I provide solutions for, for an office with 10 PC's in the network I successfully use a Pentium-120 with 16MB of RAM for the last 5-6 years without any interruption :) And those people do web-based applications, doing quite a lot of up/downloads and alike. This server is router/packet filter/DNS and runs about 0.10-0.15 load all the time... But that be said, it doesn't have many DNS requests, as well as little disk activity on the server itself due to other jobs than routing/NAT/firewall. And as it runs well, the owner doesn't want to change it, though anything you can find for free on the streets would already be an upgrade to this computer :) So, as mentioned, amount of RAM depends on what you want to do. But FreeBSD is a wonderchild here in my opinion, so you might well need less than you expect, if you're not yet very familiar with FreeBSD. good luck, ANdrei http://students.oamk.fi/~t6ruan00/ ------ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience... ----- Original Message ----- From: "satimis" To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Re: About ideal RAM capacity > > > Oliver Fromme wrote: >> >> satimis wrote: >> > I'm prepared to run FreeBSD-6.2 amd64 on an AMD Athlon64 x2 (dualcore) >> > 512Kx2 3800 box as server. What will be an ideal RAM capacity to be >> > installed. TIA >> >> It depends entirely on what you are planning to run on that >> machine. The kind of CPU is pretty much irrelevant. >> >> For example, if you're planning to run it as DNS server, >> router and/or packet filter, then about 128 to 256 MB will >> probably suffice. ;-) >> > Noted with tks. > > B.R. > satimis > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/About-ideal-RAM-capacity-tf3245275.html#a9041989 > Sent from the freebsd-hardware mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 20 03:11:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E91171B07 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (ns.freebsdsystems.com [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ADB13C481 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lnb@freebsdsystems.com) Received: (qmail 72059 invoked by uid 89); 20 Feb 2007 03:06:39 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 72052, pid: 72056, t: 0.1138s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m:42/d:2597 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (lnb@freebsdsystems.com@216.235.8.115) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with ESMTPA; 20 Feb 2007 03:06:39 -0000 Message-ID: <45DA65BB.8000302@freebsdsystems.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:06:35 -0500 From: Lanny Baron Organization: Freedom Technologies / FreeBSD Systems User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070219) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: satimis References: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com> <200702190804.l1J84ngm012593@lurza.secnetix.de> <9041989.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <9041989.post@talk.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About ideal RAM capacity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:11:38 -0000 If you are going to run dns services. Run djbdns and you will be happy. I don't know why you would want such a small amount of memory though. Here is what you might expect (note the owner is bind but trust me, we don't use bind at all :) 77289 bind 2 0 2220K 1672K poll 8:10 0.00% 0.00% dnscache 77282 bind 2 0 1016K 428K sbwait 0:19 0.00% 0.00% tinydns Regards, ___________________________________________________ Lanny Baron Freedom Technologies Corporation Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 High Performance Servers and RAID Storage Systems http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM ___________________________________________________ satimis wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: >> satimis wrote: >> > I'm prepared to run FreeBSD-6.2 amd64 on an AMD Athlon64 x2 (dualcore) >> > 512Kx2 3800 box as server. What will be an ideal RAM capacity to be >> > installed. TIA >> >> It depends entirely on what you are planning to run on that >> machine. The kind of CPU is pretty much irrelevant. >> >> For example, if you're planning to run it as DNS server, >> router and/or packet filter, then about 128 to 256 MB will >> probably suffice. ;-) >> > Noted with tks. > > B.R. > satimis > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 20 04:16:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F5217261D for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from claire.ber.rewt.org.uk (claire.ber.rewt.org.uk [217.160.200.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075DC13C4A5 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by claire.ber.rewt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854D0B924; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:48:23 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at claire.ber.rewt.org.uk Received: from claire.ber.rewt.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (claire.ber.rewt.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z39MVB1iI4g0; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:48:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.10.147] (dsl172-67.as6911.net [62.84.172.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by claire.ber.rewt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2015AB8B3; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:48:16 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <45DA6F6C.6070104@joeholden.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:47:56 +0000 From: Joe Holden User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: NVIDIA MCP51 Ethernet Interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:16:31 -0000 Hi collective, I've recently purchased a machine that is unfortunately NVIDIA based. It's an Athlon 64 board, with an MCP51 NIC, this card is supported under Linux using the forcedeth driver, having taken a look at if_nve.c, it doesn't appear to be supported. Has anyone managed to add support for this device, or is it going to be added? I don't have enough experience in this area to add support, so I would be grateful if someone could take a look. I'd be happy to give access to the running Linux machine for more information if needed. Thanks in advance, Joe Holden From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 20 17:36:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99B416A5B5 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E03B13C471 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=roam.psg.com) by rip.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HJYuj-000Bnu-R9; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:36:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=roam.psg.com) by roam.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HJYrz-0001EX-GG; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:33:39 -1000 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17883.12530.864712.437267@roam.psg.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:33:38 -1000 To: Lanny Baron References: <9021341.post@talk.nabble.com> <200702190804.l1J84ngm012593@lurza.secnetix.de> <9041989.post@talk.nabble.com> <45DA65BB.8000302@freebsdsystems.com> Cc: satimis , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About ideal RAM capacity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:36:33 -0000 > If you are going to run dns services. Run djbdns and you will be happy. ^ and do not care about standards compliance From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 21 01:11:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FB116B0CE for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mex@active.sk) Received: from smtp.roburnet.sk (smtp.roburnet.sk [62.168.125.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DE013C48D for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mex@active.sk) Received: (qmail 33078 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2007 01:45:15 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([127.10.10.10]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.roburnet.sk (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Feb 2007 01:45:15 +0100 X-VirusSpam-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.roburnet.sk Received: from unknown ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (smtp.roburnet.sk [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) id Sy7gVep2P40M for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:45:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.10]) ([10.22.3.36]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.roburnet.sk (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Feb 2007 01:45:10 +0100 Message-ID: <45DB961F.3070505@active.sk> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:45:19 +0100 From: MeX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <45DA6F6C.6070104@joeholden.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45DA6F6C.6070104@joeholden.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NVIDIA MCP51 Ethernet Interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mex@active.sk List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:11:56 -0000 On 20. 2. 2007 04:47 , Joe Holden wrote: > Hi collective, > > I've recently purchased a machine that is unfortunately NVIDIA based. > > It's an Athlon 64 board, with an MCP51 NIC, this card is supported under > Linux using the forcedeth driver, having taken a look at if_nve.c, it > doesn't appear to be supported. > > Has anyone managed to add support for this device, or is it going to be > added? I don't have enough experience in this area to add support, so I > would be grateful if someone could take a look. I'd be happy to give > access to the running Linux machine for more information if needed. Try to use 7-CURRENT and/or look at: http://www.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~shigeaki/software/freebsd-nfe.html MeX From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 21 01:56:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D0916A40F for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weaned_on_bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web62007.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62007.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.74.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 867D213C461 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weaned_on_bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 46971 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2007 01:29:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=zdl13zsWw8OOhrgOLnzrR4Y5Ya8X8B91VwGuKMidx6K2vpWZjpsORIm6aVarGJLT/8X6Bf5ftChHL9O6xwWj1OB16H0CGU0goRFTdCk7SY+cqxlMuitGw00gdgQX2YiK3/4lgRLtEYoQCJAEgMCDWBjjZbPYppViIx0mVzlTWj4=; X-YMail-OSG: YS.gwf4VM1kain5cEvTEy04RluWo2lwM8OZclKSl609af3fW9uig1QQE5QsXG3RCDr994U546P6ZPKVzYkH5IEW_jvmBZF6ZQEFg9aY4ItfSlICfeeDs8A-- Received: from [71.68.227.1] by web62007.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:29:42 PST Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:29:42 -0800 (PST) From: Weaned BSD To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <199196.43726.qm@web62007.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Recommendendations for a small form factor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:56:22 -0000 Hi, I'm looking to buy or build a small form factor system with a microATX motherboard. I develop software for a living and mostly write LAMP or perl code around mysql databases. I need something I can lug around that has good speed. I've many EIDE disk drives that have customer projects on so I need SATA and EIDE support. This box has to run FreeBSD, occasionally Red Hat and also windows. My budget is $500-$750. I'd like a gig of ram expandable to at least 2 gig, a separate graphics card (I'll rarely run X but occasionlly need to boot windows). As much cpu as I can afford. I'd thought only AMD was in reach but see now that some of the Intel core 2 duos are under $200 (intels DG965OT mobo with a E6400 chip looks sweet). I need 100baseT NIC, onboard WiFi, a DVD drive and a couple of USB ports. Sound is not important. A PCI slot would be nice too. If possible not anything that will overheat when I really crank through a large database. I write GIS code and often have databases with millions of points. I've looked at a lot of boards but thought the members of this list would be better and telling me what is fast and works out of the box with a current FreeBSD release. Thanks for any advice. --------------------------------- Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 23 01:11:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB86816A401 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9403C13C46B for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [192.168.1.87] ([69.4.176.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1N0YMAH002557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:34:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) In-Reply-To: <199196.43726.qm@web62007.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <199196.43726.qm@web62007.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <524CD02D-28EB-4838-BABD-73182BD9E512@ketralnis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:34:13 -0800 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: Weaned BSD Subject: Re: Recommendendations for a small form factor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:11:20 -0000 > I'm looking to buy or build a small form factor system with a microATX > motherboard. I have a VIA EPIA VT-310DP (dual 1.0 GHz) (I have dmesg and whatnot posted at ) in a Morex Venus 668B case (mini-ATX, but this board should do micro-ATX too if I'm not mistaken). I got both for pretty inexpensive from http://www.logicsupply.com, they have a lot in the way of small systems and they were pretty good to me. They'll probably boot one of their boards up and email you a dmesg if you can tell them how, they're pretty responsive. > I develop software for a living and mostly write LAMP or > perl code around mysql databases. I need something I can lug around > that has good speed. I've many EIDE disk drives that have customer > projects on so I need SATA and EIDE support. This box has to run > FreeBSD, > occasionally Red Hat and also windows. My budget is $500-$750. I'd > like a gig of ram expandable to at least 2 gig, a separate graphics > card > (I'll rarely run X but occasionlly need to boot windows). As much > cpu as I can afford. I'd thought only AMD was in reach but see now > that some of the Intel core 2 duos are under $200 (intels DG965OT mobo > with a E6400 chip looks sweet). I need 100baseT NIC, onboard WiFi, > a DVD drive and a couple of USB ports. Sound is not important. A PCI > slot would be nice too. If possible not anything that will overheat > when I really crank through a large database. I write GIS code and > often have databases with millions of points. I've looked at a lot > of boards but thought the members of this list would be better and > telling me what is fast and works out of the box with a current > FreeBSD release. > > Thanks for any advice. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 24 16:08:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11CE16A402 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Gilles@Gravier.org) Received: from mailhost.gravier.org (mailhost.gravier.org [213.162.26.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E0513C4B6 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Gilles@Gravier.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (mailhost [10.10.10.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost.gravier.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l1OFcaZY015015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:38:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E05C04.4040207@Gravier.org> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:38:44 +0100 From: Gilles Gravier Organization: Famille Gravier User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060209020607010700010804" Subject: FreeBSD 6.2 installer doesn't see my SATA disk on Shuttle ST20G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:08:01 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060209020607010700010804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my Shuttle ST20G5 with one DVD drive (off of which the FreeBSD 6.2 AMD boot CD boots perfectly)... I am asked for default or "no ACPI" (tried both - even tried with the normal i386 boot CD), then prompted for region and keyboard language. Then I go to where I should select partitionning for my hard disk... but the system says "no disk found". Strange thing since, if I don't boot from the CD, the machine boots from the hard disk (which contains a Ubuntu system) perfectly... The machine is a Shuttle ST20G5 ( http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/ST20G5.asp). Chipset is ATi RADEON XPRESS 200 + ULi 1573 chipset... Any suggestions? PS... This is my first attempt at FreeBSD... comming from NetBSD (on another server) and Ubuntu (on my laptops). I'd love to make this a great experience! 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--------------ms060209020607010700010804-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 24 16:51:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8285316A403 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4EE13C48E for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HL07d-000MFV-M2; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:51:45 +0100 Message-ID: <45E06D82.5080606@fluffles.net> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:53:22 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gilles Gravier References: <45E05C04.4040207@Gravier.org> In-Reply-To: <45E05C04.4040207@Gravier.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2 installer doesn't see my SATA disk on Shuttle ST20G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:51:58 -0000 Gilles Gravier wrote: > Hi! > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my Shuttle ST20G5 with one DVD > drive (off of which the FreeBSD 6.2 AMD boot CD boots perfectly)... I > am asked for default or "no ACPI" (tried both - even tried with the > normal i386 boot CD), then prompted for region and keyboard language. > Then I go to where I should select partitionning for my hard disk... > but the system says "no disk found". > > Strange thing since, if I don't boot from the CD, the machine boots > from the hard disk (which contains a Ubuntu system) perfectly... > > The machine is a Shuttle ST20G5 ( > http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/ST20G5.asp). Chipset is ATi > RADEON XPRESS 200 + ULi 1573 chipset... > > Any suggestions? > > PS... This is my first attempt at FreeBSD... comming from NetBSD (on > another server) and Ubuntu (on my laptops). I'd love to make this a > great experience! > > Thanks in advance, > Gilles. > Have you checked the HCL (Hardware Compatibility List) if your SATA controller is supported? - Veronica From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 24 20:55:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F3E16A404 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msn@paultjuh.org) Received: from pvdl.nl.eu.org (84-245-34-247.dsl.cambrium.nl [84.245.34.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4418D13C474 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msn@paultjuh.org) Received: from 84.245.34.247 ([84.245.34.247]) (authenticated user msn@paultjuh.org) by pvdl.nl.eu.org (pvdl.nl.eu.org [10.0.0.150]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 48-md50000000001.tmp for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: <45E0A363.6080301@paultjuh.org> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:43:15 +0100 From: Paul van der Linden User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: msn@paultjuh.org X-Spam-Processed: pvdl.nl.eu.org, Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:43:15 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 84.245.34.247 X-Return-Path: msn@paultjuh.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Hardware supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:55:01 -0000 Hi, I wanted to buy this motherboard: http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1423&l1=9&l2=39&l3=352 But I'm not sure if the devices are fully supported by freebsd? I want to be able to install freebsd through network via Broadcom BCM5721 lan device onboard, and want to install it on a SATA RAID 1 configuration with the controller (Intel ICH7R or, if that doesn't work, the LSI MegaRAID). As far as I understand for text displaying, an OS doesn't even need a driver to use a VGA adapter? And ofcourse I need to be able to use the USB ports for a keyboard and mouse for installation. Does anyone know if this is completly possible with freebsd 6.2, I found the hardware list, but on some parts I'm not fully sure. 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