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The following line was placed first in the file, instead of in
chronological order. Is there a reason that it needs to be first?
Thanks,
Doug
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Subject: HEADS UP for portmaster users: Mandatory upgrade
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Howdy,
The short version is that the DESTDIR changes that were made to
ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk today broke the method that portmaster was using
to detect variable PORTSDIR and PKG_DBDIR. It's fixed now, but in
order to keep using portmaster you must upgrade.
You won't be able to use portmaster to do the upgrade, so you'll have
to do it the old fashioned way:
pkg_delete portmaster*
cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster
make clean ; make install
After that you should be fine.
Regards,
Doug
-------- Original Message --------
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 05:04:15 +0000 (UTC)
dougb 2007-08-05 05:04:15 UTC
FreeBSD ports repository
Modified files:
ports-mgmt/portmaster/files portmaster.sh.in
Log:
1. Change to 'make -f/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk' in several places
due to the DESTDIR changes today.
2. Export pd, pdb, and distdir to avoid having to look them up each
time
3. Streamline find_moved() by grepping for lines, and then recursing
4. Further streamline by using variable stripping instead of cut
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster/files/portmaster.sh.in.diff?&r1=1.18&r2=1.19&f=h
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Previous DESTDIR commits introduced dereferences of ${PORTSDIR} before
it was set (via .include), which broke e.g. portmaster. This diff
shuffles some things around to hopefully restore everything to being
defined before it is used. It also cleans up some stale cruft. It
has only been lightly tested.
Kris
Index: bsd.port.mk
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
RCS file: /home/pcvs/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk,v
retrieving revision 1.579
diff -u -r1.579 bsd.port.mk
--- bsd.port.mk 4 Aug 2007 19:48:34 -0000 1.579
+++ bsd.port.mk 5 Aug 2007 05:50:10 -0000
@@ -1089,6 +1089,17 @@
# Most port authors should not need to understand anything after this poin=
t.
#
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+# These need to be absolute since we don't know how deep in the ports
+# tree we are and thus can't go relative. They can, of course, be overrid=
den
+# by individual Makefiles or local system make configuration.
+PORTSDIR?=3D /usr/ports
+LOCALBASE?=3D /usr/local
+X11BASE?=3D ${LOCALBASE}
+LINUXBASE?=3D /compat/linux
+DISTDIR?=3D ${PORTSDIR}/distfiles
+_DISTDIR?=3D ${DISTDIR}/${DIST_SUBDIR}
+INDEXDIR?=3D ${PORTSDIR}
+
.include "${PORTSDIR}/Mk/bsd.commands.mk"
=20
#
@@ -1294,16 +1305,6 @@
PKGNAME=3D ${PKGNAMEPREFIX}${PORTNAME}${PKGNAMESUFFIX}-${PKGVERSION}
DISTNAME?=3D ${PORTNAME}-${DISTVERSIONPREFIX}${DISTVERSION:C/:(.)/\1/g}${D=
ISTVERSIONSUFFIX}
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-# These need to be absolute since we don't know how deep in the ports
-# tree we are and thus can't go relative. They can, of course, be overrid=
den
-# by individual Makefiles or local system make configuration.
-PORTSDIR?=3D /usr/ports
-LOCALBASE?=3D /usr/local
-X11BASE?=3D ${LOCALBASE}
-LINUXBASE?=3D /compat/linux
-DISTDIR?=3D ${PORTSDIR}/distfiles
-_DISTDIR?=3D ${DISTDIR}/${DIST_SUBDIR}
-INDEXDIR?=3D ${PORTSDIR}
INDEXFILE?=3D INDEX-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/}
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DOCSDIR?=3D ${PREFIX}/share/doc/${PORTNAME}
@@ -2300,7 +2301,6 @@
.undef NO_PACKAGE
.endif
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-COMMENTFILE?=3D ${PKGDIR}/pkg-comment
DESCR?=3D ${PKGDIR}/pkg-descr
PLIST?=3D ${PKGDIR}/pkg-plist
PKGINSTALL?=3D ${PKGDIR}/pkg-install
Index: bsd.port.subdir.mk
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
RCS file: /home/pcvs/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk,v
retrieving revision 1.71
diff -u -r1.71 bsd.port.subdir.mk
--- bsd.port.subdir.mk 4 Aug 2007 11:37:24 -0000 1.71
+++ bsd.port.subdir.mk 5 Aug 2007 05:50:10 -0000
@@ -40,6 +40,21 @@
# Search for ports using either 'make search key=3D<keyword>'
# or 'make search name=3D<keyword>'.
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+PORTSDIR?=3D /usr/ports
+TEMPLATES?=3D ${PORTSDIR}/Templates
+.if defined(PORTSTOP)
+README=3D ${TEMPLATES}/README.top
+.else
+README=3D ${TEMPLATES}/README.category
+.endif
+MOVEDDIR?=3D ${PORTSDIR}
+MOVEDFILE?=3D MOVED
+
+# XXX Are these needed here? DESCR was set wrong for a few years
+MASTERDIR?=3D ${.CURDIR}
+PKGDIR?=3D ${MASTERDIR}
+DESCR?=3D ${PKGDIR}/pkg-descr
+
.include "${PORTSDIR}/Mk/bsd.commands.mk"
=20
.MAIN: all
@@ -66,6 +81,9 @@
.endif
.endif
=20
+INDEXDIR?=3D ${PORTSDIR}
+INDEXFILE?=3D INDEX-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/}
+
UID!=3D ${ID} -u
.if exists(${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg_info)
PKG_INFO?=3D ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg_info
@@ -249,28 +267,6 @@
@${MAKE} README.html
.endif
=20
-.if (${OPSYS} =3D=3D "NetBSD")
-PORTSDIR ?=3D /usr/opt
-.else
-PORTSDIR ?=3D /usr/ports
-.endif
-TEMPLATES ?=3D ${PORTSDIR}/Templates
-.if defined(PORTSTOP)
-README=3D ${TEMPLATES}/README.top
-.else
-README=3D ${TEMPLATES}/README.category
-.endif
-COMMENTFILE?=3D ${.CURDIR}/pkg/COMMENT
-DESCR?=3D ${.CURDIR}/pkg/DESCR
-INDEXDIR?=3D ${PORTSDIR}
-.if ${OSVERSION} >=3D 500036
-INDEXFILE?=3D INDEX-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/}
-.else
-INDEXFILE?=3D INDEX
-.endif
-MOVEDDIR?=3D ${PORTSDIR}
-MOVEDFILE?=3D MOVED
-
HTMLIFY=3D ${SED} -e 's/&/\&/g' -e 's/>/\>/g' -e 's/</\</g'
=20
package-name:
@@ -298,9 +294,6 @@
.if defined(COMMENT)
@${ECHO_CMD} "${COMMENT}" | ${HTMLIFY} > $@.tmp4
.else
-.if exists(${COMMENTFILE})
- @${HTMLIFY} ${COMMENTFILE} > $@.tmp4
-.else
@> $@.tmp4
.endif
.endif
@@ -415,7 +408,7 @@
break; \
}\
} \
- if (toprint =3D=3D 1 ) disp[fields[d[i]]] =3D 1; \
+ if (toprint =3D=3D 1 ) disp[fields[d[i]]] =3D 1; \
} \
} \
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On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 06:01:48PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> The following line was placed first in the file, instead of in
> chronological order. Is there a reason that it needs to be first?
This is a bug. Fixed.
mcl
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I have no response, so I try to send to public.
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_____ =20
From: Daniel Dvo=C5=99=C3=A1k [mailto:dandee@hellteam.net]=20
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:09 PM
To: 'andy@athame.co.uk'
Subject: FreeBSD Port: uptimed-0.3.7
=20
Hi Andy,
=20
I ask you about updating uptimed to the last release 0.3.11.
=20
Radek P. is my friend and I show him what the startting script in fbsd =
porttree is, he was surprised a little bit about older our 0.3.7 =
release.
=20
The main problem is with pid file and uptimed.sh script as whole.
=20
See this:
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# /etc2/rc.d/uptimed.sh stop
# /etc2/rc.d/uptimed.sh start
uptimeduptimed is already running.
# /etc2/rc.d/uptimed.sh stop
# ps aux | grep "uptimed"
root 91399 0,0 0,8 1564 948 p0 R+ 10:04od 0:00,03 grep =
uptimed
# /etc2/rc.d/uptimed.sh start
uptimeduptimed is already running.
# ps aux | grep "uptimed"
root 91406 0,0 0,7 1548 872 p0 R+ 10:05od 0:00,02 grep =
uptimed
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I had to use =E2=80=9Ekillall uptimed=E2=80=9C to really stop it.
=20
This is our latest script:
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#!/bin/sh
case "$1" in
start)
echo -n ' uptimed'
/usr/local/sbin/uptimed
;;
stop)
;;
restart)
;;
*)
echo "Usage: ${0##*/}: { start | stop | restart }" 2>&1
exit 65
;;
esac
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=20
And Radek has in his sources this much newer code with status. To be =
perfect it should have rcvar option.
=20
http://hg.podgorny.cz/uptimed/file/ccbad14594ae/etc/rc.uptimed
=20
case "$1" in
69 start)
70 start
71 ;;
72 stop)
73 stop
74 ;;
75 restart)
76 stop
77 start
78 ;;
79 createbootid)
80 createbootid
81 ;;
82 status)
83 showstatus
84 ;;
85 *)
86 echo $"Usage: $0 =
{start|stop|restart|createbootid|status}"
87 RETVAL=3D1
88esac
89exit $RETVAL
=20
=20
I think this code above is good point to start and adjust our modern =
uptimed startting script with rc rules for our needs.
=20
I ask you more than I could, becuse my contribution is almost none, but =
at least new modern startting script with whole status and rcvar stuff =
under new rc rules would be great.
=20
Perhaps I do not bother you more than necessary.
=20
Thanks
=20
Bye
=20
Dan
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From: Andy Fawcett <andy@athame.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: FW: FreeBSD Port: uptimed-0.3.7
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Two days is hardly "no response", especially when my baby daughter had a bi=
g=20
day today.
I'll look at your submission during this coming week. Please be patient.
Andy
On Sunday 05 August 2007 15:23:16 Daniel Dvo=C5=99=C3=A1k wrote:
> I have no response, so I try to send to public.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Daniel Dvo=C5=99=C3=A1k [mailto:dandee@hellteam.net]
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:09 PM
> To: 'andy@athame.co.uk'
> Subject: FreeBSD Port: uptimed-0.3.7
>
>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
>
>
> I ask you about updating uptimed to the last release 0.3.11.
>
>
>
> Radek P. is my friend and I show him what the startting script in fbsd
> porttree is, he was surprised a little bit about older our 0.3.7 release.
>
>
>
> The main problem is with pid file and uptimed.sh script as whole.
>
>
>
> See this:
>
>
>
> # /etc2/rc.d/uptimed.sh stop
>
> # /etc2/rc.d/uptimed.sh start
>
> uptimeduptimed is already running.
>
> # /etc2/rc.d/uptimed.sh stop
>
> # ps aux | grep "uptimed"
>
> root 91399 0,0 0,8 1564 948 p0 R+ 10:04od 0:00,03 grep uptim=
ed
>
> # /etc2/rc.d/uptimed.sh start
>
> uptimeduptimed is already running.
>
> # ps aux | grep "uptimed"
>
> root 91406 0,0 0,7 1548 872 p0 R+ 10:05od 0:00,02 grep uptim=
ed
>
>
>
> I had to use =E2=80=9Ekillall uptimed=E2=80=9C to really stop it.
>
>
>
> This is our latest script:
>
>
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> case "$1" in
>
> start)
>
> echo -n ' uptimed'
>
> /usr/local/sbin/uptimed
>
> ;;
>
> stop)
>
> ;;
>
> restart)
>
> ;;
>
> *)
>
> echo "Usage: ${0##*/}: { start | stop | restart }" 2>&1
>
> exit 65
>
> ;;
>
> esac
>
>
>
>
>
> And Radek has in his sources this much newer code with status. To be
> perfect it should have rcvar option.
>
>
>
> http://hg.podgorny.cz/uptimed/file/ccbad14594ae/etc/rc.uptimed
>
>
>
> case "$1" in
> 69 start)
> 70 start
> 71 ;;
> 72 stop)
> 73 stop
> 74 ;;
> 75 restart)
> 76 stop
> 77 start
> 78 ;;
> 79 createbootid)
> 80 createbootid
> 81 ;;
> 82 status)
> 83 showstatus
> 84 ;;
> 85 *)
> 86 echo $"Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|createbootid|status}"
> 87 RETVAL=3D1
> 88esac
> 89exit $RETVAL
>
>
>
>
>
> I think this code above is good point to start and adjust our modern
> uptimed startting script with rc rules for our needs.
>
>
>
> I ask you more than I could, becuse my contribution is almost none, but at
> least new modern startting script with whole status and rcvar stuff under
> new rc rules would be great.
>
>
>
> Perhaps I do not bother you more than necessary.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Bye
>
>
>
> Dan
>
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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 09:29:03AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> Thanks! I forgot to include in my original message that this is
> important because some tools (like portmaster)
and portsmon
> rely on being able to parse the file in chronological order.
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Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 06:01:48PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>> The following line was placed first in the file, instead of in
>> chronological order. Is there a reason that it needs to be first?
>
> This is a bug. Fixed.
Thanks! I forgot to include in my original message that this is
important because some tools (like portmaster) rely on being able to
parse the file in chronological order.
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Kris Kennaway escribió:
> Previous DESTDIR commits introduced dereferences of ${PORTSDIR} before
> it was set (via .include), which broke e.g. portmaster. This diff
> shuffles some things around to hopefully restore everything to being
> defined before it is used. It also cleans up some stale cruft. It
> has only been lightly tested.
>
>
I haven't tested it yet, but it seems good to me. Thanks for working on
this! I'll test it a bit next
day. What about COMMENTFILE? I see it was removed, but can't see it
added back. Is it
completely obsolete?
Regards,
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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 10:48:42PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
> Kris Kennaway escribi?:
> >Previous DESTDIR commits introduced dereferences of ${PORTSDIR} before
> >it was set (via .include), which broke e.g. portmaster. This diff
> >shuffles some things around to hopefully restore everything to being
> >defined before it is used. It also cleans up some stale cruft. It
> >has only been lightly tested.
> >
> >
> I haven't tested it yet, but it seems good to me. Thanks for working on
> this! I'll test it a bit next
> day. What about COMMENTFILE? I see it was removed, but can't see it
> added back. Is it
> completely obsolete?
Yes, for 3 years now :)
Kris
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Subject: Kdenlive video non linear editor port
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Has anyone had any success with producing a port for the Kdenlive
video editor (kdenlive.sourceforge.net)? It looks like a more
sophisticated version of Kino, indeed the Kino main developer is
joining that project.
There don't appear to be source snapshot releases as yet. I tried with
the latest svn version of today, but the configure and make gave
multiple errors like
"Makefile", line 6: Missing dependency operator
"Makefile", line 10: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 14: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 95: Missing dependency operator
"Makefile", line 96: Could not find .depend
etc...
The project doesn't appear to use autotools, so I am guessing these
are due to Linuxisms. The web page does say it should build (minus
V4L, etc) on xBSD.
Has anyone had any success with getting this to build on FreeBSD?
regards
Chris
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Chris Billington wrote:
> Has anyone had any success with producing a port for the Kdenlive
> video editor (kdenlive.sourceforge.net)? It looks like a more
> sophisticated version of Kino, indeed the Kino main developer is
> joining that project.
>
> There don't appear to be source snapshot releases as yet. I tried with
> the latest svn version of today, but the configure and make gave
> multiple errors like
>
> "Makefile", line 6: Missing dependency operator
> "Makefile", line 10: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 14: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 95: Missing dependency operator
> "Makefile", line 96: Could not find .depend
> etc...
>
> The project doesn't appear to use autotools, so I am guessing these
> are due to Linuxisms. The web page does say it should build (minus
> V4L, etc) on xBSD.
> Has anyone had any success with getting this to build on FreeBSD?
>
> regards
> Chris
Try gmake instead of make and see if it compiles.
-Garrett
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I've committed mplayer part. But I have problems with extra files with
mencoder port:
=== Checking filesystem state after all packages deleted
================================================================
list of extra files and directories in / (not present on clean system
but present after everything was deinstalled)
120196 4 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel
512 Aug 5 21:47 share
120249 4 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel
512 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer
120253 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel
512 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools
120254 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
1433 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/calcbpp.pl
120256 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
756 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/countquant.pl
120258 16 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
8116 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/dvd2divxscript.pl
120262 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
861 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/menc2pass
120263 28 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
12398 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/mencvcd
120276 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
1510 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/mp.pl
120280 28 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
13095 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/subedit.pl
120287 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
622 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/subsearch.sh
120508 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
458 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/sws-test
120510 8 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
3083 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/w32codec_dl.pl
120516 16 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
7219 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/wma2ogg.pl
120520 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel
408 Aug 5 21:47 share/mplayer/tools/x2mpsub.sh
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build of /usr/ports/multimedia/mencoder ended at Sun Aug 5 21:48:21 UTC
2007
Fix it please.
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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:43:21PM +0200, Chris Billington wrote:
> There don't appear to be source snapshot releases as yet. I tried with
> the latest svn version of today, but the configure and make gave
> multiple errors like
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> "Makefile", line 6: Missing dependency operator
> "Makefile", line 10: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 14: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 95: Missing dependency operator
> "Makefile", line 96: Could not find .depend
> etc...
gmake should be able to address that.
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> Howdy,
>
> The short version is that the DESTDIR changes that were made to
> ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk today broke the method that portmaster was using
> to detect variable PORTSDIR and PKG_DBDIR. It's fixed now, but in
> order to keep using portmaster you must upgrade.
>
> You won't be able to use portmaster to do the upgrade, so you'll have
> to do it the old fashioned way:
> pkg_delete portmaster*
> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster
> make clean ; make install
>
> After that you should be fine.
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug
Hi.
Unfortunately I didn't see this before trying portmaster on a machine.
I ran portmaster -L and it said that six ports were out of date which
sounded right since I've been working on putting the machine together
recently and I had a recent ports tree. I ran portmaster -a and let it
do it's thing, however afterwards there are a lot of corrupted package
infos (pasted below).
Only 28 of 450+ come up as corrupted however I'm not sure how to fix
them as I've never had corrupted package data before.
In /var/db/pkg/name on the corrupted ones, some directories are
entirely empty (such as portmaster, intltool, ghostscript-gpl, etc
which portmaster was trying to update) and others such as gimp and vlc
are missing +CONTENTS files even though they weren't being updated.
Are there any quick fixes for this? If not, what's the best way to
proceed? This is on an older slower machine (900MHz) that I've been
compiling on for the last few days and it was just about all ready to
go, so I'd rather not have to recompile a bunch of ports if at all
possible.
Thanks a lot in advance.
-Mark
P.S. Sorry about the paste, some lines wouldn't fit correctly.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
pkg_info: the package info for package 'Terminal-0.2.6_3' is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'Thunar-0.8.0_5' is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'abiword-2.4.6_1' is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'claws-mail-2.10.0_1' is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_1' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'gail-1.18.0_1' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'ghostscript-gpl-8.57_1'
is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'gimp-2.2.17,2' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'gimp-app-2.2.17,1' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'gimp-gutenprint-5.1.3'
is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'gstreamer-0.10.14'
is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'gstreamer-plugins-0.10.14,3' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'gutenprint-cups-5.1.3' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'intltool-0.36.0' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'libexo-0.3.2_3' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'libglade2-2.6.2' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'libgnomecanvas-2.14.0_3' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'libgnomeprintui-2.18.0_1' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'libgtkhtml-2.11.0_3' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'portmaster-1.19' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'sane-frontends-1.0.14_3' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'vlc-0.8.6.c_2,2' is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'wxgtk2-common-2.8.4' is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'wxgtk2-unicode-2.8.4' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'xfce-4.4.1_1' is corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'xfce4-desktop-4.4.1_1' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'xfce4-session-4.4.1_1' is
corrupt
pkg_info: the package info for package 'xsane-0.991_3' is corrupt
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Subject: Re: Kdenlive video non linear editor port
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Chris Billington wrote:
> Has anyone had any success with producing a port for the Kdenlive
> video editor (kdenlive.sourceforge.net)? It looks like a more
> sophisticated version of Kino, indeed the Kino main developer is
> joining that project.
It's indeed a totally different project from kino, based on much better
design (multitrack timeline, ecc..).
It's fun you ask today: I've been thinking for 6+ months about writing a
port for kdenlive, and yesterday I decided I'd give a try.
Not that hard, but the resulting binary has problems playing audio: I
guess it's a device name problem. All other KDE applications can
playback audio files, kdenlive not.
If you want to try, or help me iron out the last issues, you can
download the following files:
http://www.commit.it/kdenlive-ports.tgz
(ports for kdenlive/mlt/mlt++, untar in /usr/ports/multimedia)
http://www.commit.it/kdenlive-20070804.tar.bz2
http://www.commit.it/mlt-20070804.tar.bz2
http://www.commit.it/mltpp-20070804.tar.bz2
(source tarballs extracted form SVN on 2007-08-04, save them in folder
/usr/ports/distfiles)
Then, to install:
#cd /usr/ports/multimedia/kdenlive
#make install
I'm not yet sure what to do about tarball hosting, so the ports doesn't
fetch automatically by now.
Please beware that some dependencies may be missing (i.e.: it just
occurred to me that I've not put multimedia/ffmpeg among the
RUN/BUILD_DEPENDS, please install it before trying).
I only tested on RELENG_6/AMD64.
Let me know how it works for you
Angelo Turetta.
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The PR is regarding sysutils/3dm, a port for which I'm the maintainer.
After working with Craig (the PR submitter), I've submitted a follow-up
to the PR containing a commitable version of the suggested changes plus
a few of my own. If someone with a commit bit would be so kind, that
would be great, thanks.
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Hello,
I am having problems getting the p5-Authen-PluggableCaptcha-0.05 port to
work, which lists you as maintainer. When I try to use it, I get an include
path error:
[Mon Aug 06 02:18:54 2007] [error] Can't locate Imager.pm in @INC (@INC
contains: /usr/local/hiertec/symtrust/www/perlmod
/usr/local/hiertec/symtrust/conf /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /usr/local) at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Authen/PluggableCaptcha/Render/Image/Im
ager.pm line 17.\nBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Authen/PluggableCaptcha/Render/Image/Im
ager.pm line 17.\nCompilation failed in require at
/usr/local/hiertec/symtrust/www/perl/admin/CaptchaTest.pl line 22.\nBEGIN
failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/local/hiertec/symtrust/www/perl/admin/CaptchaTest.pl line 22.\n
I am using Apache 2.2.4_2 and mod_perl2 2.0.3_2,3. The Perl that triggers
this error is (specifically the last line):
use Authen::PluggableCaptcha;
use Authen::PluggableCaptcha::Challenge::TypeString;
use Authen::PluggableCaptcha::Render::Image::Imager;
Is this likely pilot error?
Thanks,
Seth Hieronymus
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Subject: Re: HEADS UP for portmaster users: Mandatory upgrade
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Mark Kane wrote:
> Unfortunately I didn't see this before trying portmaster on a machine.
I'm sorry to hear that. :-/
> I ran portmaster -L and it said that six ports were out of date which
> sounded right since I've been working on putting the machine together
> recently and I had a recent ports tree. I ran portmaster -a and let it
> do it's thing, however afterwards there are a lot of corrupted package
> infos (pasted below).
>
> Only 28 of 450+ come up as corrupted however I'm not sure how to fix
> them as I've never had corrupted package data before.
For the ones where there are still files in the pkg directory,
"corrupted" usually means that the permissions are wrong on those
files. Try this:
chown -R root:wheel /var/db/pkg
find /var/db/pkg -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find /var/db/pkg -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
That should fix you up.
> In /var/db/pkg/name on the corrupted ones, some directories are
> entirely empty (such as portmaster, intltool, ghostscript-gpl, etc
> which portmaster was trying to update) and others such as gimp and vlc
> are missing +CONTENTS files even though they weren't being updated.
For those ports I'm afraid the only way to reliably reproduce the pkg
data is to rebuild and reinstall. If you don't use too many weird
options you could probably get away with downloading the packages and
using the pkg data from those. Then the next time you use portmaster
to update those ports it will properly rebuild the pkgdep and
+REQUIRED_BY stuff.
hope this helps,
Doug
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Subject: new reports added to portsmon
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These reports deal with package failures, adding together all packages
that are intentionally not made, packages that fail, and all the packages
that depend on them.
Initially I generated these as graphs via GraphViz. However, the
resulting images are so large that they take minutes to display on a
browser such as firefox. This is useless.
Now I have added a version of the reports in list form. Just see the
"List of package failures (direct and indirect) by buildenv" on the charts
and graphs page: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/chartsandgraphs/index.html .
Each package that was not built is listed in the left column; the center
column gives the explanation; and the third column lists the ports, if any,
that depend on the non-built package.
If you are interested in helping to get the packages in better shape,
I think you will find these reports of help. (I am continuing to work
on them, so the format may change.)
Note: these reports show the state of the packages as of the last full
runs. Some errors may have been fixed in the meantime; you will need to
check the commit logs.
mcl
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Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org, pav@FreeBSD.org,
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Subject: Re: ldconfig when PACKAGE_BUILDING=YES (and linux ports)
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Quoting Boris Samorodov <bsam@ipt.ru> (from Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:09:47 +0400)=
:
[CCing emulation@...]
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:58:47 +0200 Pav Lucistnik wrote:
>> Boris Samorodov p=C3=AD=C5=A1e v so 04. 08. 2007 v 01:30 +0400:
>
>> > Seems that running ldconfig while building a package at package
>> > cluster (i.e. when PACKAGE_BUILDING is defined) is quite useless. [1]
>> >
>> > To be more specific I'm interested at linux ports. ATM we run linux
>> > ldconfig (using linuxulator) _at package building_. Hence to create a
>> > package for FC6 port we should change compat.linux.osrelease (which I
>> > don't like and try to avoid). If the "ldconfig" stage may be skipped
>> > when PACKAGE_BUILDING is defined then things get way too easier both
>> > for default kernel linux.osrelease and default linux_base port change.
>
>> I don't follow - what is the problem?
>
> An FC6 port can't be build (and more specific -- linux-fc6 ldconfig
> doesn't run) with current default compat.linux.osrelease=3D2.4.2. So
> this sysctl should be changed to 2.6.16 for package building sake.
> When the default compat.linux.osrelease will be switched to 2.6.16 we
> will get the other way round problem if we try to build and FC4 port.
>
> I don't like the status quo and want to find a way to siplify it.
It's not only a ldconfig problem, it's a generic problem. The gtk =20
ports run plugin detection programs (gtk-query-immodules-2.0-32 and =20
gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders-32) at installation time.
Do you think it is a problem when the non-default linux port is not =20
available as a package? Currently I don't think it is a big problem =20
(you can check the value of the sysctl and IGNORE if it is not ok).
When we switch the default, it will be a problem for those releases =20
which we still support but which have not the "good" default value for =20
the linux emulation (AFAIK pointyhat is running -current with some =20
jails for RELENG_x builds). One workaround would be that portmgr sets =20
the right value in the jail for the package build for the =20
corresponding release. This would be the cleanest solution, as all =20
linux ports are then build in the right environment and we don't have =20
to add magic code to every linux port (or bsd.port.mk).
Kris, your opinion?
Bye,
Alexander.
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Dear all,
I've just released p5-FreeBSD-Portindex-2.0. Changes are mostly
bugfixes and some extra functionality arising from various conversations
on this list.
Changes since 1.9:
* Now tracks changes to OPTIONS settings, and the effect those
have on port dependencies.
* Cleanup of warning and error messages -- new 'Warnings'
configuration variable to turn them on/off
* New 'Strict' configuration option -- at the moment this just
enforces a check that all ports are referenced from the
category Makefile in the directory above. May be extended to
other items later.
* New 'CrunchWhitespace' configuration option -- emulate the way
that 'make index' collapses multiple whitespace into single in
port description lines.
* Internal changes to data structures, cache file locking
etc. which will be needed to support multithreaded cache
initialization / update (It is coming... eventually). One
consequence is that there is no longer a dependency on
Storable.pm
* Mk/bsd.commands.mk and Mk/bsd.destdir.mk added to the list of
Makefiles where changes are not expected to affect the INDEX.
* Bugfix -- correct programming error when picking out changes to
lists of SUBDIRs in category Makefiles.
Note: You will have to reinitialize the ports cache when updating.
Unfortunately, due to the changes in BerkeleyDB locking / concurrent
access, version 2.0 code cannot even open the version 1.9 data cache.
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Matthew
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Subject: Re: Kdenlive video non linear editor port
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On 8/6/07, Angelo Turetta <aturetta@commit.it> wrote:
> Chris Billington wrote:
> > Has anyone had any success with producing a port for the Kdenlive
> > video editor (kdenlive.sourceforge.net)? It looks like a more
> > sophisticated version of Kino, indeed the Kino main developer is
> > joining that project.
>
> It's indeed a totally different project from kino, based on much better
> design (multitrack timeline, ecc..).
>
> It's fun you ask today: I've been thinking for 6+ months about writing a
> port for kdenlive, and yesterday I decided I'd give a try.
> Not that hard, but the resulting binary has problems playing audio: I
> guess it's a device name problem. All other KDE applications can
> playback audio files, kdenlive not.
>
> If you want to try, or help me iron out the last issues, you can
> download the following files:
>
> http://www.commit.it/kdenlive-ports.tgz
> (ports for kdenlive/mlt/mlt++, untar in /usr/ports/multimedia)
>
> http://www.commit.it/kdenlive-20070804.tar.bz2
> http://www.commit.it/mlt-20070804.tar.bz2
> http://www.commit.it/mltpp-20070804.tar.bz2
> (source tarballs extracted form SVN on 2007-08-04, save them in folder
> /usr/ports/distfiles)
>
> Then, to install:
>
> #cd /usr/ports/multimedia/kdenlive
> #make install
>
> I'm not yet sure what to do about tarball hosting, so the ports doesn't
> fetch automatically by now.
> Please beware that some dependencies may be missing (i.e.: it just
> occurred to me that I've not put multimedia/ffmpeg among the
> RUN/BUILD_DEPENDS, please install it before trying).
> I only tested on RELENG_6/AMD64.
>
> Let me know how it works for you
>
> Angelo Turetta.
>
>
Fantastic news- will test tonight and report back.
regards
Chris
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Current FreeBSD problem reports
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases.
Bugs can be in one of several states:
o - open
A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.
a - analyzed
The problem is understood and a solution is being sought.
f - feedback
Further work requires additional information from the
originator or the community - possibly confirmation of
the effectiveness of a proposed solution.
p - patched
A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or
confirmation from originator) are still open.
r - repocopy
The resolution of the problem report is dependent on
a repocopy operation within the CVS repository which
is awaiting completion.
s - suspended
The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information
or resources. This is a prime candidate
for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
If the problem cannot be solved at all,
it will be closed, rather than suspended.
c - closed
A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned.
Critical problems
Serious problems
S Tracker Resp. Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o ports/106369 vpnd caused kernel panic with ppp mode
o ports/106372 vpnd can't run with slip mode
f ports/108077 www/linux-flashplugin9 crashes linux-firefox
f ports/108413 net/vnc does not works.
f ports/108537 print/hplip: Build failure
f ports/108606 Courier MTA terminates abnormaly after installation
f ports/111338 graphics/yafray: doesn't respect CXX, CXXFLAGS and eve
f ports/112083 mail/qsheff overwrites configuration upon upgrade
f ports/112094 www/lynx: plist missing configuration file
o ports/112385 sysutils/lookupd on Kernel 64
f ports/112698 www/opera's spell-check doesn't work
f ports/112921 x11-wm/Beryl not loading focus and keybinding settings
f ports/113139 sysutils/ucspi-tcp runtime crash on amd64 w/ fix
f ports/113144 print/ghostscript-gnu dumps core with several output d
o ports/114132 mule goes core dump on X Window System
o ports/114560 editors/mule cannot compile in ports
f ports/115163 dns/bind9-sdb-ldap port is outdated
f ports/115203 net/samba3: Broken on filesystems other than UFS
f ports/115209 editors/emacs: info files are not installed correctly
19 problems total.
Non-critical problems
S Tracker Resp. Description
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o ports/94921 isakmpd fails on amd64
o ports/95854 New Port: www/ochusha
o ports/100896 [new ports] emulators/vmware-server-guestd1 emulators/
f ports/101166 bittorrent-curses only works under English locales.
o ports/103395 security/gnome-ssh-askpass interferes with gnome-scree
o ports/107354 net/icmpinfo: icmpinfo -vvv does not recocnize any ICM
o ports/107368 audio/normalize: [patch] - normalize-mp3 and normalize
f ports/107621 net/proxychains doens't compile on 4 and 5
f ports/107937 jailed net/isc-dhcp3-server wouldn't run with an immut
o ports/108595 pstree (sysutils/psmisc) don't work in jail
f ports/108723 kxgenerator never worked for me
f ports/108788 [patch] sysutils/fusefs-kmod: Add BASE option
f ports/108853 Contradiction of CONFLICTSĄĄ
f ports/109041 security/tinyca doesn't allow for user installed OpenS
o ports/110144 New port: math/Matlab7
f ports/110320 [security/vpnc] rc script returns 0 on failure
o ports/110326 ports Use TCL/TK 8.4: games/tvp
o ports/111167 New port:mail/ilohamail-devel IlohaMail is a lightweig
o ports/111247 New port: sysutil/linux-procfs rpm port of procps
f ports/111399 print/ghostscript-gpl: ghostscript-gpl WITH_FT_BRIDGE
f ports/111456 [UPDATE] finance/pfpro updated distinfo
f ports/111549 ports/net/fping patch to add -S source_addr option
o ports/112124 [New port] archivers/linux-par2cmdline
o ports/112185 [NEW PORT] net/fping+ipv6: Quickly ping N hosts w/o fl
o ports/112248 new port: finance/ledgersmb
o ports/112271 new port: graphics/lightzone: a photo editor
o ports/112499 Add a necessary runtime library for audio/mbrola to ru
o ports/112669 New port: net/snmp++ v3 library
f ports/112876 audio/xmcd - compile problems after xorg 7.2 upgrade (
f ports/112887 net/nxserver 1.4.0_1 fails to compile after upgrading
o ports/112982 new port: security/hamachi
f ports/113319 [NEW PORT] www/p5-Catalyst-View-Email: Catalyst View f
f ports/113325 japanese/ng: use termios instead of sgtty
f ports/113335 biology/linux-foldingathome needs to run as root?
f ports/113423 Update for ports net/freenx to version 0.6.0
o ports/113538 databases/unixODBC fails to copy required INI files fo
o ports/113572 [patch] japanese/sj3 is broken
o ports/113608 New port: devel/codeblocks-devel SVN version of Code::
f ports/113709 multimedia/mplayer - PATCH - Add icon to gmplayer desk
f ports/113750 update science/kst to 1.4.0
o ports/113827 when trying to play midis using audio/playmidi "/dev/s
o ports/113925 New port: security/openvpn-auth-ldap - LDAP authentica
o ports/114006 [NEW PORT] net/zeroinstall-injector: 0install injector
o ports/114017 New port: net-im/iserverd - Groupware ICQ server clone
o ports/114031 [PATCH] editors/xemacs-devel - stop XEmacs from corrup
o ports/114045 New ports:devel/ETL;devel/synfig;graphics/synfigstudio
f ports/114053 Port graphics/gnash is out of date
o ports/114067 [new port] japanese/asterisk-sounds-jp Japanese soun
o ports/114114 New port: devel/p5-Cvs Cvs - Object oriented interface
o ports/114122 New port: russian/stardict2-dict-eng_RU, Russian dicti
f ports/114127 net/vnc - vnc.so installed to bad location
o ports/114231 [patch] audio/timidity - audacious/plugins: default /e
o ports/114239 New ports:multimedia/mimms;multimedia/gmimms A fronten
o ports/114336 new ports: graphics/php4-chartdirector, graphics/php5-
o ports/114365 New port: net-mgmt/nagiosgrapher
o ports/114383 [New Port] texproc/yaml-mode.el: Simple major mode to
o ports/114462 New port: net-im/jabbin Jabber client with VoIP
o ports/114495 [NEW PORT] net-mgmt/netxms: NetXMS - network monitorin
o ports/114511 New port: lang/ocs
o ports/114541 [NEW PORT] databases/tablelog: Logs changes on a table
o ports/114544 New port: net/gateway6 free IPv6 tunnel
o ports/114611 [NEW PORT] net-p2p/freenet05: An anonymous censorship-
s ports/114630 [NEW PORT] emulators/wine-doors - Windows application
o ports/114634 maintainer update: www/b2evolution
f ports/114684 devel/ddd remove check for FreeBSD 4.x
o ports/114762 New port: sysutils/mtpfs MTP device filesystem
o ports/114763 New port: net-mgmt/nagios-devel Nagios development str
f ports/114769 [PATCH] comms/smstools: update to 2.2.18
o ports/114785 New port: mail/p5-Net-Server-Mail-ESMTP-AUTH Impleme
o ports/114811 New port: devel/qprog Cross-platform software for the
o ports/114812 [new port] devel/ta-lib
o ports/114813 [new port] finance/qtstalker-devel
f ports/114825 pam module security/pam_abl not working
a ports/114831 New port:multimedia/qmmp An audio player with Winamp G
f ports/114836 editors/emacs - Emacs22 info files not installed compl
o ports/114867 New port:x11/simdock A fast and customizable dockbar
o ports/114889 New port:graphics/autoq3d A complete QT quick 3d model
f ports/114893 [PATCH] audio/musicpd: update to 0.13.0
f ports/114904 [UPDATE]: audio/qmpdclient Update to new release, 1.0.
a ports/114905 New port: devel/subcommander Qt based multiplatform su
o ports/114934 [NEW PORT] devel/cunit: An automated unit testing fram
o ports/114937 [NEW PORT]: graphics/blender-doc - Blender document
s ports/114984 New port:graphics/qtpfsgui A graphical user interface
f ports/114993 editors/Emacs causes SIGSEGV
o ports/114999 security/bro, port upgrade to version 1.2.1, take over
o ports/115005 New port: misc/color-theme.el (color themes for emacs)
o ports/115012 New port: comms/bluegps BlueGPS is a simple command l
o ports/115036 New port: comms/bluez-firmware Firmware for the D-Lin
o ports/115074 New ports:misc/itest;misc/itestwri A Qt application co
o ports/115087 New port: net/callweaver Fork of the popular Open Sour
o ports/115096 [NEW PORT] emulators/fuse-utils: Utilities from the Fr
o ports/115116 [MAINTAINER UPDATE] net-im/gaim-latex
f ports/115124 mail/spamass-milter install from ports fails on libgpg
o ports/115125 security/chaosreader, new port submission
o ports/115131 ports-mgmt/portcheck - Update of makefile and distinfo
o ports/115138 [Maintainer] graphics/gsculpt Update to 0.99.46.2
o ports/115139 [Update] devel/clanlib Update to 0.8.0
f ports/115141 Ignore games/trophy
o ports/115142 Ignore games/clanbomber
o ports/115144 [Update] games/super_methane_brothers - Update to 1.4.
o ports/115166 [patch] misc/asbutton is broken for RELENG_6
o ports/115177 [maintainer] mail/dkim-milter update to 2.0.2
o ports/115186 security/afterglow, new port submission
o ports/115195 Maintainer update 8 ports: Update QT_COMPONENTS since
f ports/115198 [PATCH] security/drweb: update to rcNG script
f ports/115201 [UPDATE]: archivers/libzip Update to new release, 0.8
f ports/115204 [UPDATE]: archivers/xar Update to new release, 1.5.1
o ports/115210 port security/sshit not work when hostname not IP
o ports/115216 ADA devel/florist exit_process program doesn't compile
o ports/115217 Ada devel/florist socket program doesn't compile due t
o ports/115218 Update port: audio/libmtp to version 0.2.0
o ports/115229 [MAINTAINER] www/asterisk-gui: update to 0.0.1r2007080
o ports/115231 Maintainer update port:chinese/reciteword Fix compile
o ports/115233 [MAINTAINER] security/prelude-manager: update to 0.9.9
o ports/115234 [MAINTAINER] www/py24-prewikka: update to 0.9.12.1
f ports/115236 update port: sysutils/puppet
o ports/115237 New port:finance/eqonomize A peronal accounting softwa
117 problems total.
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Thanks for your story. The only reason we used -U was that we were not
sure what they meant got special macros. The man page for portsdb
status that you only use -U if you have special macros in
/etc/make.conf. All we have in there is version information so I think
that does not apply to use.
Thanks again,
Arend
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, Arend P. van der Veen wrote:
>
>> The approach that I had been using was:
>>
>> /usr/local/bin/cvsup -L 0 /usr/sup/supfile
>> /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -Uu
>>
>> This had worked great until the emacs22 update. Now portsdb crashes
>> due to the emacs entry in /etc/make.conf. However, I see very little
>> chatter on the lists about this. I have started to wonder if the bulk
>> of the community may be updating their ports differently. Upon some
>> limited research I found that I could use:
>>
>> /usr/local/bin/cvsup -L 0 /usr/sup/supfile
>> /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -Fu
>>
>> This work fine for me. I can then use tools such as pkg_version,
>> pkg_delete, portinstall and portupgrade without any problems.
>>
>> My open ended question is what does the rest of the community do to
>> update their ports collection?
>>
>
> I don't run portsdb at all. :)
>
> What I figured from the portsdb manpages is that if you don't run it
> manually then it gets run upon using one of the portupgrade tools. I
> don't mind the 30s or so delay that causes and so I don't run portsdb
> manually.
>
> During my first few days with FreeBSD, however, I used to run ''portsdb
> -Fu''. My understanding is that that would fetch the INDEX-6 and update
> INDEX-6.db (since I am on FreeBSD 6.x) but I don't see why I should do
> this coz the INDEX files are updated when I update the ports tree
> anyways! (If I have understood this incorrectly, someone please correct
> me).
>
> I tried ''portsdb -Uu'' just once. To see what it does. Took a long time
> and so I never tried it again. From the manpage I understand that it
> creates/ updates the INDEX files by running the ''make index'' command,
> but the reasoning behind that didn't make sense to me ...
>
> So that's my story.
>
> Regards,
> Rakhesh
>
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Arend P. van der Veen wrote:
> Thanks for your story. The only reason we used -U was that we were not sure
> what they meant got special macros. The man page for portsdb status that you
> only use -U if you have special macros in /etc/make.conf. All we have in
> there is version information so I think that does not apply to use.
Same here! Didn't make sense to me what the manpage meant by special
macros. A couple of examples on the net seemed to be using the ''-U''
switch and so I too gave it a shot. But it took an awfully long time and
so I didn't try it again. Since I wasn't doing anything fancy, I figured I
probably don't have special macros. :)
If you ever figure out what special macros are or in which situations the
''-U'' switch is useful, please do let me know.
Regards,
Rakhesh
ps. In mailing lists people usually prefer if you were to give your reply
at the *end* of the quoted post. Makes it easier to read the original
messages first and then the reply in that context. Just mentioning ...
>
> Thanks again,
> Arend
>
>
> Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, Arend P. van der Veen wrote:
>>
>>> The approach that I had been using was:
>>>
>>> /usr/local/bin/cvsup -L 0 /usr/sup/supfile
>>> /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -Uu
>>>
>>> This had worked great until the emacs22 update. Now portsdb crashes due
>>> to the emacs entry in /etc/make.conf. However, I see very little chatter
>>> on the lists about this. I have started to wonder if the bulk of the
>>> community may be updating their ports differently. Upon some limited
>>> research I found that I could use:
>>>
>>> /usr/local/bin/cvsup -L 0 /usr/sup/supfile
>>> /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -Fu
>>>
>>> This work fine for me. I can then use tools such as pkg_version,
>>> pkg_delete, portinstall and portupgrade without any problems.
>>>
>>> My open ended question is what does the rest of the community do to update
>>> their ports collection?
>>>
>>
>> I don't run portsdb at all. :)
>>
>> What I figured from the portsdb manpages is that if you don't run it
>> manually then it gets run upon using one of the portupgrade tools. I don't
>> mind the 30s or so delay that causes and so I don't run portsdb manually.
>>
>> During my first few days with FreeBSD, however, I used to run ''portsdb
>> -Fu''. My understanding is that that would fetch the INDEX-6 and update
>> INDEX-6.db (since I am on FreeBSD 6.x) but I don't see why I should do this
>> coz the INDEX files are updated when I update the ports tree anyways! (If I
>> have understood this incorrectly, someone please correct me).
>>
>> I tried ''portsdb -Uu'' just once. To see what it does. Took a long time
>> and so I never tried it again. From the manpage I understand that it
>> creates/ updates the INDEX files by running the ''make index'' command, but
>> the reasoning behind that didn't make sense to me ...
>>
>> So that's my story.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rakhesh
>>
>
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Hi David,
David Yeske wrote:
> The graphics/blender port is a binary port that has not been updated
> in a couple of years.
I was wondering why ? (you being the maintainer ;-) .
For every blender release I still build the binary blob for the
blender.org website. I don't have any feedback at this time of its
usage, in the NaN days it was a few hundred downloads per release if I'm
not mistaken. The graphics/blender port could just continue to follow
the blender.org website download offerings.
> Most of the functionality has been migrated into the open source
> graphics/blender-devel port.
I must admin that I have not checked graphics/blender-devel for some
time. It uses the scons build system, right ? (the other 2, makefiles
and cmake are what I use mostly) is the game engine building enabled in
scons ? The soundsystem ? standalone-player ? web browser plugins ?
> I wanted to take a survey to see if anyone is still using the
> graphics/blender port as I plan to replace it with the open source
> blender.
Using the blender.org release source tarballs ? Sounds like an idea.
Or do you intend to move the graphics/blender-devel to graphics/blender ?
regards,
Hans Lambermont
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On Wednesday 25 July 2007 04:49:52 Ken Yamada wrote:
> Sorry, please ignore my previous mail.
>
> I found the source code....
>
Hi Ken
Just wondered how you are doing with eclipse 3.3 . I saw the recent upgrades
for 3.2 and wondered how you were fairing with the latest europa (3.3.0). I
am using it on other platfroms (win and Mac) but would really like to have it
available on freebsd.
I am sure there is a lot of work for 3.3.0.
BTW You might want to take a look at how the upgrades work for eclipse when a
user is running eclipse whilst the upgrade is taking place. I found it
clobbered access to the existing workspace. This is not serious but could be
disconcerting for someone who is inexperienced with eclipse.
David
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Folks on the tcpdump mailing list mentioned sporadic problems with
tcpdump.org connectivity.
I've uploaded the distfiles to http://people.freebsd.org/~bms/dump.
Can someone arrange for them to be mirrored on FreeBSD.org for now?
I have no idea how to do this, and would greatly appreciate any help here.
Kind regards
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Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Arend P. van der Veen wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your story. The only reason we used -U was that we were not
>> sure what they meant got special macros. The man page for portsdb
>> status that you only use -U if you have special macros in
>> /etc/make.conf. All we have in there is version information so I
>> think that does not apply to use.
>
> Same here! Didn't make sense to me what the manpage meant by special
> macros. A couple of examples on the net seemed to be using the ''-U''
> switch and so I too gave it a shot. But it took an awfully long time and
> so I didn't try it again. Since I wasn't doing anything fancy, I figured
> I probably don't have special macros. :)
>
> If you ever figure out what special macros are or in which situations
> the ''-U'' switch is useful, please do let me know.
Having "Special Macros" is (I am almost certain) a strange way of
saying that you have set various make variables which will affect
the dependency tree for a port. Eg. if you were to have the
following in /etc/make.conf:
WANT_OPENLDAP_SASL= yes
Then you'ld find that any port needed LDAP functionality would
depend on openldap-sasl-client-2.3.37 rather than
openldap-client-2.3.37
In which case, in order to have an accurate INDEX, you'ld need to
build one yourself rather than downloading the default one.
Building an INDEX from scratch is pretty time consuming, although
there are faster alternatives for incrementally updating it (if I
may be excused for blowing my own trumpet:
ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex).
However, practically speaking, you don't need to have any INDEX
present to install a port via 'make install'; neither do you need an
INDEX present if you use the portmaster scripts. portupgrade will
generally work quite adequately in most cases if you just use the
default INDEX -- you may have to manually fix up some of the
recorded dependencies using pkgdb -- and 'make search' in /usr/ports
won't give you an accurate response.
Cheers
Matthew
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>> If you ever figure out what special macros are or in which situations
>> the ''-U'' switch is useful, please do let me know.
>
> Having "Special Macros" is (I am almost certain) a strange way of
> saying that you have set various make variables which will affect
> the dependency tree for a port. Eg. if you were to have the
> following in /etc/make.conf:
>
> WANT_OPENLDAP_SASL= yes
>
> Then you'ld find that any port needed LDAP functionality would
> depend on openldap-sasl-client-2.3.37 rather than
> openldap-client-2.3.37
Thank you shedding light on that Matthew. I didn't know you could have
variables such as these WANT_* ones. Where can I see what all WANT_*
options are available for a particular port -- in the port's Makefile
itself, or someplace else?
A quick clarification: while updating to Emacs 22.1, for instance,
/usr/ports/UPDATING asks one to add a line such as
"EMACS_PORT_NAME=emacs22" to /etc/make.conf. Does that count as a special
macro (and so one should use portsdb -Uu while updating INDEX*.db)?
> In which case, in order to have an accurate INDEX, you'ld need to
> build one yourself rather than downloading the default one.
> Building an INDEX from scratch is pretty time consuming, although
> there are faster alternatives for incrementally updating it (if I
> may be excused for blowing my own trumpet:
> ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex).
Thanks for mentioning that. If I ever need to use special macros I know
where to look for faster INDEX updating. :)
Regards,
Rakhesh
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 09:55:53 +0200 Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Boris Samorodov <bsam@ipt.ru> (from Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:09:47 +04=
00):
> [CCing emulation@...]
> > On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:58:47 +0200 Pav Lucistnik wrote:
> >> Boris Samorodov p=C3=AD=C5=A1e v so 04. 08. 2007 v 01:30 +0400:
> >
> >> > Seems that running ldconfig while building a package at package
> >> > cluster (i.e. when PACKAGE_BUILDING is defined) is quite useless. [1]
> >> >
> >> > To be more specific I'm interested at linux ports. ATM we run linux
> >> > ldconfig (using linuxulator) _at package building_. Hence to create a
> >> > package for FC6 port we should change compat.linux.osrelease (which I
> >> > don't like and try to avoid). If the "ldconfig" stage may be skipped
> >> > when PACKAGE_BUILDING is defined then things get way too easier both
> >> > for default kernel linux.osrelease and default linux_base port chang=
e.
> >
> >> I don't follow - what is the problem?
> >
> > An FC6 port can't be build (and more specific -- linux-fc6 ldconfig
> > doesn't run) with current default compat.linux.osrelease=3D2.4.2. So
> > this sysctl should be changed to 2.6.16 for package building sake.
> > When the default compat.linux.osrelease will be switched to 2.6.16 we
> > will get the other way round problem if we try to build and FC4 port.
> >
> > I don't like the status quo and want to find a way to siplify it.
> It's not only a ldconfig problem, it's a generic problem. The gtk
> ports run plugin detection programs (gtk-query-immodules-2.0-32 and
> gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders-32) at installation time.
Sure you are right. If we can solve this problem soon -- that will be
great.
> Do you think it is a problem when the non-default linux port is not
> available as a package?
No, the problem is in ability to run a linux binary.
> Currently I don't think it is a big problem
> (you can check the value of the sysctl and IGNORE if it is not ok).
Agreed.
WBR
--=20
bsam
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On 8/6/07, Hans Lambermont <hans@lambermont.dyndns.org> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> David Yeske wrote:
>
> > The graphics/blender port is a binary port that has not been updated
> > in a couple of years.
>
> I was wondering why ? (you being the maintainer ;-) .
>
> For every blender release I still build the binary blob for the
> blender.org website. I don't have any feedback at this time of its
> usage, in the NaN days it was a few hundred downloads per release if I'm
> not mistaken. The graphics/blender port could just continue to follow
> the blender.org website download offerings.
>
> > Most of the functionality has been migrated into the open source
> > graphics/blender-devel port.
>
> I must admin that I have not checked graphics/blender-devel for some
> time. It uses the scons build system, right ? (the other 2, makefiles
> and cmake are what I use mostly) is the game engine building enabled in
> scons ? The soundsystem ? standalone-player ? web browser plugins ?
>
> > I wanted to take a survey to see if anyone is still using the
> > graphics/blender port as I plan to replace it with the open source
> > blender.
>
> Using the blender.org release source tarballs ? Sounds like an idea.
> Or do you intend to move the graphics/blender-devel to graphics/blender ?
>
> regards,
> Hans Lambermont
>
I plan on either removing the Blender 2.25 binary port from the ports
collection or moving it to a directory like graphics/blender-old. I
also want to move the blender 2.44 code into graphics/blender. My
primary concern is that I'm not sure how many people are still using
the binary 2.25 blender on FreeBSD since it is i386 only and is a
FreeBSD 4.2 binary.
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Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>
>>> If you ever figure out what special macros are or in which situations
>>> the ''-U'' switch is useful, please do let me know.
>>
>> Having "Special Macros" is (I am almost certain) a strange way of
>> saying that you have set various make variables which will affect
>> the dependency tree for a port. Eg. if you were to have the
>> following in /etc/make.conf:
>>
>> WANT_OPENLDAP_SASL= yes
>>
>> Then you'ld find that any port needed LDAP functionality would
>> depend on openldap-sasl-client-2.3.37 rather than
>> openldap-client-2.3.37
>
> Thank you shedding light on that Matthew. I didn't know you could have
> variables such as these WANT_* ones. Where can I see what all WANT_*
> options are available for a particular port -- in the port's Makefile
> itself, or someplace else?
There isn't one place you can go to see everything that might affect
a particular port. The port's Makefile is a good place to start,
and most port Maintainers will document to a greater or lesser
extent what tunables and so forth are available within the file,
although it does help if you understand make(1) syntax.
Some ports will include other Makefiles either from within their own
port directory, or from a master port or in fact from almost
anywhere else in the ports tree. (PHP ports are a good example. All
of the various PHP modules such as databases/php5-mysql use
/usr/ports/lang/php5/Makefile for just about everything they need)
The next place to look are the shared Makefiles in /usr/ports/Mk/
where there are a large number of such variables defined. Some of
those variables in bsd.ports.mk. bsd.commands.mk, bsd.sites.mk etc.
have a global effect, others in eg. bsd.emacs.mk, bsd.gnome.mk etc
only affect the ports that have the corresponding USE_EMACS or
USE_GNOME flags set.
Also note the convention:
Variables called WITH_FOO or WITHOUT_FOO are user settable. Note
that frequently (but not always) the only test on those variables is
that they are set, not what they are set to. Thus the converse of
WITH_FOO= yes
is not:
WITH_FOO= no # this actually *enables* FOO
but:
WITHOUT_FOO= yes
Other variables let you select one out of a number of options. So
if you want to use MySQL 5.1 generally, then you'ld put:
WITH_MYSQL_VER= 51
in /etc/make.conf
Variables called 'WANT_FOO' are also user settable -- AFAIK there
isn't a corresponding 'DONT_WANT_FOO' construct -- but in this case
they tend to indicate a preference rather than an absolute
requirement, and the ports system can override them.
Variables called USE_FOO however are maintainer only Makefile
internal stuff (no user serviceable parts inside) and should not be
meddled with.
Other variables may or may not be modifiable by the end user --
generally things that are set in the port (or other) Makefile using
the ?= operator are things that might be overridden. Thus in the
databases/phpmyadmin port there are these settings:
MYADMDIR?= www/phpMyAdmin
MYADMGRP?= ${WWWGRP}
which basically say "install the files into
/usr/local/www/phpMyAdmin owned by group 'www'" -- but you can
override that should you wish to, either from /etc/make.conf or on
the make command line or by setting a variable of the same name in
the environment while you're building/installing the port.
> A quick clarification: while updating to Emacs 22.1, for instance,
> /usr/ports/UPDATING asks one to add a line such as
> "EMACS_PORT_NAME=emacs22" to /etc/make.conf. Does that count as a
> special macro (and so one should use portsdb -Uu while updating INDEX*.db)?
Oh, yes. Definitely that one does. The effect of 'EMACS_PORT_NAME'
is quite wide ranging. Many e-lisp ports have a line like this:
PKGNAMESUFFIX= -${EMACS_PORT_NAME}
which tags on the version of emacs to the package name, hence having
quite a big effect on the INDEX.
Note that the default set in Mk/bsd.emacs.mk is:
EMACS_PORT_NAME?= emacs22
which allows various individual ports to override the setting if
they only work with specific emacs versions. If you put
EMACS_PORT_NAME= emacs22
in /etc/make.conf (note '=' rather than '?=') then you'll have the
effect of forcing some of the e-lisp ports to try and be installed
for emacs22 when they may not actually work with that version of
emacs. (Or it's possible they'd work just fine, but the port just
hasn't been updated yet, so fails to install properly) It will also
break building the INDEX quite dramatically because of those non
working ports. The best practice is to omit EMACS_PORT_NAME from
/etc/make.conf if you're using emacs22 or else to set it with ?= if
you're using a different emacs port.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Matthew Seaman wrote:
> There isn't one place you can go to see everything that might affect
> a particular port. The port's Makefile is a good place to start,
> and most port Maintainers will document to a greater or lesser
> extent what tunables and so forth are available within the file,
> although it does help if you understand make(1) syntax.
<snip>
Wow! Now that's an email! Thanks a lot for all that info Matthew! Things
make a lot more sense now. :)
Much appreacited!
Regards,
Rakhesh
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> For the ones where there are still files in the pkg directory,
> "corrupted" usually means that the permissions are wrong on those
> files. Try this:
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> That should fix you up.
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> hope this helps,
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> Doug
The permissions change had no effect but reinstalling those ports seems
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Hi,
I understand one can compile the email client Pine with an option
PASSFILE=<some file name> to enable the option of saving your mail account
passwords. The Pine website talks about it and so do many sites all over
the net.
FreeBSD's ports do not seem to offer such an option. I went through the
Pine Makefile, however, and I see that the "EXTRA_OPTS" variable is what's
used to compile Pine with extra configurable options.
So my question is this: if I want to compile Pine from ports with this
PASSFILE option, can I do something like the following in
/usr/ports/mail/pine4?
# make EXTRA_OPTS+=PASSFILE=.pine.pwd install
I used the "+=" coz I got the got the impression that adds onto the
existing extra options. And if I want to make this permanent, can I define
it in /etc/make.conf accordingly?
.if ${.CURDIR:M*/mail/pine4}
EXTRA_OPTS+= PASSFILE=.pine.pwd
.endif
Regards,
Rakhesh
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On 8/7/07, Rakhesh Sasidharan <rakhesh@rakhesh.com> wrote:
> I understand one can compile the email client Pine with an option
> PASSFILE=<some file name> to enable the option of saving your mail account
> passwords. The Pine website talks about it and so do many sites all over
> the net.
>
> FreeBSD's ports do not seem to offer such an option. I went through the
> Pine Makefile, however, and I see that the "EXTRA_OPTS" variable is what's
> used to compile Pine with extra configurable options.
>
> So my question is this: if I want to compile Pine from ports with this
> PASSFILE option, can I do something like the following in
> /usr/ports/mail/pine4?
>
> # make EXTRA_OPTS+=PASSFILE=.pine.pwd install
>
This won't work from the command line.
> I used the "+=" coz I got the got the impression that adds onto the
> existing extra options. And if I want to make this permanent, can I define
> it in /etc/make.conf accordingly?
>
> .if ${.CURDIR:M*/mail/pine4}
> EXTRA_OPTS+= PASSFILE=.pine.pwd
> .endif
>
But it will work from /etc/make.conf (using either "=" or "+="), as
long as you don't select LDAP support.
A better way to add support for PASSFILE, would be to add:
PASSFILE "Add support for a Pine Password File (DANGEROUS)" off
to the list of options, then add the following below .if
defined(WITH_IPV6) ... .endif:
.if defined(WITH_PASSFILE)
EXTRA_OPTS+= PASSFILE=.pine.pwd
.endif
You would then need to add a warning when this option is enabled, as
according to
doc/tech-notes.txt this option is dangerous:
PASSFILE
_WARNING!_ Turning this on is very dangerous and should
probably not be done, except on single user systems! For
:
_WARNING_! Use this feature with caution! It effectively makes
the user's mail no more secure than the physical security of
the machine running _Pine_. What's more, while the password is
cloaked by a mild (some might say, feeble) encryption scheme,
it is nonetheless sitting in a file on the disk and subject to
cracking by anyone with access to it. _BEWARE_!
After you make these changes and test them, submit the change using
send-pr for inclusion to the pine4 port. The maintainer will then
make the decision if this change is appropriate for the ports.
Scot
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[I sent mail to kde@ and haven't heard anything after several
days, so ....]
I'm trying to upgrade to qt-3.3.8_5, and keep stopping here:
c++ -c -pipe -fno-exceptions -Wall -W -O -pipe -g -march=pentium4 -DQT_TABLET_SUPPORT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/local/share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++ -I. -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I../designer -I/usr/local/include -I../../../include -I/usr/local/include -I.moc/release-shared-mt/ -o .obj/release-shared-mt/main.o main.cpp
test -d ../../../bin/ || mkdir -p ../../../bin/
c++ -fno-exceptions -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -pthread -o ../../../bin/designer .obj/release-shared-mt/main.o -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/lib -L/usr/local/lib -ldesignercore -lqui -lqassistantclient -lqt-mt -lmng -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lXi -lXrender -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXinerama -lXft -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lXext -lX11 -lm -lSM -lICE
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libdesignercore.a(sourceeditor.o)(.text+0x2720): reloc against `_ZNK12SourceEditor10formWindowEv': error 2
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/tools/designer/app.
*** Error code 1
I'm happy to believe something's broken on my end, though there
are no complaints of missing libraries or header files. (And yes,
I've wiped and reloaded both the port skeleton and the distfile.)
Respectfully,
Robert Huff
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 08:56:39 -0500
"Scot Hetzel" <swhetzel@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/7/07, Rakhesh Sasidharan <rakhesh@rakhesh.com> wrote:
> > I understand one can compile the email client Pine with an option
> > PASSFILE=<some file name> to enable the option of saving your mail
> > account passwords. The Pine website talks about it and so do many
> > sites all over the net.
I wish something formal could be sorted out for this, for many people
the security implications of this are negligible.
> > FreeBSD's ports do not seem to offer such an option. I went through
> > the Pine Makefile, however, and I see that the "EXTRA_OPTS"
> > variable is what's used to compile Pine with extra configurable
> > options.
> >
> > So my question is this: if I want to compile Pine from ports with
> > this PASSFILE option, can I do something like the following in
> > /usr/ports/mail/pine4?
> >
> > # make EXTRA_OPTS+=PASSFILE=.pine.pwd install
> >
>
> This won't work from the command line.
>
> > I used the "+=" coz I got the got the impression that adds onto the
> > existing extra options. And if I want to make this permanent, can I
> > define it in /etc/make.conf accordingly?
> >
> > .if ${.CURDIR:M*/mail/pine4}
> > EXTRA_OPTS+= PASSFILE=.pine.pwd
> > .endif
> >
> But it will work from /etc/make.conf (using either "=" or "+="), as
> long as you don't select LDAP support.
Have you actually tried this? A few years ago I couldn't get it, nor
several variations on it, to work. IIRC there were a lot of other people
who had problems with it on various mailing lists.
In the end I created a port patchfile - which gets applied automatically
by the ports system. The only problem with it is that if you use
portsnap you will have to replace it after a "extract", although an
"update" should be OK.
Anyway here's the file:
$ cat /usr/ports/mail/pine4/files/patch-passfile
--- pine/osdep/os-bsf.h.safe Thu Aug 17 20:55:53 2006
+++ pine/osdep/os-bsf.h Thu Aug 17 21:04:04 2006
@@ -54,6 +54,8 @@
----*/
+#define PASSFILE ".pinepw"
+
/*----------------------------------------------------------------------
Define this if you want the disk quota to be checked on startup.
Of course, this only makes sense if your system has quotas. If it
doesn't,
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Scot Hetzel wrote:
>> I used the "+=" coz I got the got the impression that adds onto the
>> existing extra options. And if I want to make this permanent, can I define
>> it in /etc/make.conf accordingly?
>>
>> .if ${.CURDIR:M*/mail/pine4}
>> EXTRA_OPTS+= PASSFILE=.pine.pwd
>> .endif
>>
> But it will work from /etc/make.conf (using either "=" or "+="), as
> long as you don't select LDAP support.
Oh, so if I add the above stuff to /etc/make.conf it will work? Cool. Then
why won't it work by passing it to "make" on the command line? I thought
stuff in /etc/make.conf got passed to the "make" command ...
> A better way to add support for PASSFILE, would be to add:
>
> PASSFILE "Add support for a Pine Password File (DANGEROUS)" off
>
> to the list of options, then add the following below .if
> defined(WITH_IPV6) ... .endif:
>
> .if defined(WITH_PASSFILE)
> EXTRA_OPTS+= PASSFILE=.pine.pwd
> .endif
<snip>
> After you make these changes and test them, submit the change using
> send-pr for inclusion to the pine4 port. The maintainer will then
> make the decision if this change is appropriate for the ports.
That sounds like fun! I'll try it and get back if there's any problems. :)
Thanks!
Rakhesh
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On Tuesday 07 August 2007, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> Could somebody reading these lists please try and point Robert to the
> reply I sent him here:
>
> http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2007-August/001296.html
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> Apparently, my mail didn't get through to his address and he doesn't
> check the list archives ...
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> Cheers,
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> You would then need to add a warning when this option is enabled, as
> according to
> doc/tech-notes.txt this option is dangerous:
>
> PASSFILE
> _WARNING!_ Turning this on is very dangerous and should
> probably not be done, except on single user systems! For
> :
I'm stuck here!
I went through the Pine Makefile coz I recollect it giving me a warning
about Pine not recommended by the FreeBSD Security Officer. And I also
went through the Porter's Handbook (very briefly). From these two I learnt
about the "pkg-install" file and so I tried putting in something there to
popup as a warning after the first warning.
/usr/bin/dialog --msgbox "_WARNING!_ Turning the PASSFILE option on is
very dangerous and should probably not be done, except on single user
systems!" 7 70
But thing is -- how do I make this warning appear *only* if the PASSFILE
option is chosen? From what I can see, the "WITH_PASSFILE" variable is not
visible to the "pkg-install" file and so I can't use that to wrap the
dialog around an if ... fi block. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Rakhesh
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Ignore this one please ... I figured a way out!
In Makefile
-----------
pre-fetch:
.if !defined(BATCH) && !defined(PACKAGE_BUILDING) &&
!defined(WITH_PASSFILE)
${SH} pkg-install
.endif
.if !defined(BATCH) && !defined(PACKAGE_BUILDING) &&
defined(WITH_PASSFILE)
${SH} pkg-install WITH_PASSFILE
.endif
And now I can test if $1 is WITH_MAKEFILE in pkg-install and show the
dialog accordingly!
That was fun! :)
Regards,
Rakhesh
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>
>> You would then need to add a warning when this option is enabled, as
>> according to
>> doc/tech-notes.txt this option is dangerous:
>>
>> PASSFILE
>> _WARNING!_ Turning this on is very dangerous and should
>> probably not be done, except on single user systems! For
>> :
>
> I'm stuck here!
>
> I went through the Pine Makefile coz I recollect it giving me a warning about
> Pine not recommended by the FreeBSD Security Officer. And I also went through
> the Porter's Handbook (very briefly). From these two I learnt about the
> "pkg-install" file and so I tried putting in something there to popup as a
> warning after the first warning.
>
> /usr/bin/dialog --msgbox "_WARNING!_ Turning the PASSFILE option on is very
> dangerous and should probably not be done, except on single user systems!" 7
> 70
>
> But thing is -- how do I make this warning appear *only* if the PASSFILE
> option is chosen? From what I can see, the "WITH_PASSFILE" variable is not
> visible to the "pkg-install" file and so I can't use that to wrap the dialog
> around an if ... fi block. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Rakhesh
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Could somebody reading these lists please try and point Robert to the
reply I sent him here:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2007-August/001296.html
Apparently, my mail didn't get through to his address and he doesn't
check the list archives ...
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Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade) install
java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I upgrade
jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the tools.
The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location
of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
# if no valid jdk found, set dependency
.if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSION}
.endif
BUILD_DEPENDS+=${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linux-sun-jdk15
I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+= line inside the
if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is only needed if
no jdk is present.
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RW wrote:
> Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade) install
> java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I upgrade
> jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the tools.
>
> The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location
> of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
> BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
>
> # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSION}
> .endif
> BUILD_DEPENDS+=${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linux-sun-jdk15
>
>
> I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+= line inside the
> if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is only needed if
> no jdk is present.
Your analysis sounds right.
Doug
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, RW wrote:
> Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade) install
> java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I upgrade jdk15
> manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the tools.
>
> The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location of
> an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
> BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
>
> # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSION}
> .endif
> BUILD_DEPENDS+=${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linux-sun-jdk15
>
>
> I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+= line inside the
> if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is only needed if
> no jdk is present.
The port now depends on the Diablo JDK, but that exposed BUILD_DEPENDS
line still brings in the diablo-jdk15 port even if a native JDK is
already available.
It would be nice to use an installed java/jdk15 port to build itself.
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> The port now depends on the Diablo JDK, but that exposed BUILD_DEPENDS
> line still brings in the diablo-jdk15 port even if a native JDK is
> already available.
>
> It would be nice to use an installed java/jdk15 port to build itself.
That's the way it works if you build it manually from the port
directory.
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:28:53 -0700
Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> RW wrote:
> > Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade)
> > install java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I
> > upgrade jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the
> > tools.
> >
> > The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location
> > of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
> > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
> >
> > # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> > .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSION}
> > .endif
> > BUILD_DEPENDS+=${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linux-sun-jdk15
> >
> >
> > I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> > linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+= line inside
> > the if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is only
> > needed if no jdk is present.
>
> Your analysis sounds right.
What I don't understand is why portmaster doesn't leave missing
build-dependencies to the ports-system itself. I wasn't using the -t
option and ${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac is provided by jdk15.
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On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:28 -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> RW wrote:
> > Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade) install
> > java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I upgrade
> > jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the tools.
> >=20
> > The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location
> > of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
> > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
> >=20
> > # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> > .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=3D${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSION}=20
> > .endif
> > BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linux-su=
n-jdk15
> >=20
> >=20
> > I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> > linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D line inside th=
e
> > if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is only needed if
> > no jdk is present.
>=20
> Your analysis sounds right.
Almost, doing this will remove the dependency on linux-sun-jdk15 if
another bootstrap is installed, but it won't add one for the installed
bootstrap. Currently, it will always have a dependency on
linux-sun-jdk15 even if another bootstrap jdk is installed. jdk14 also
has this issue.
robert.
> Doug
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RW wrote:
> What I don't understand is why portmaster doesn't leave missing
> build-dependencies to the ports-system itself.
Because that's part of portmaster's design. It takes each of the build
and run dependencies and handles the compilation and installation
itself. That way you get all of portmaster's benefits for each port
that you install, not just the parent.
> I wasn't using the -t option and ${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac is
> provided by jdk15.
Are there CONFLICTS set between jkd15 and linux-sun-jdk15? Portmaster
would correctly determine that the dependency was already met if so.
Another way to do that would be to wrap that line in an if
!exists(javac) type test, although in principle I would agree that it
probably shouldn't be necessary.
One thing that would make this whole problem go away is some sort of
"need depends" target that would give you all the goodness of the way
that the infrastructure tests for needed dependencies now, without
allowing the infrastructure to recurse itself. I have in mind to look
at this project when I have time, but it's not high on the list at the
moment.
hth,
Doug
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Robert Noland <rnoland@2hip.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:28 -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> > RW wrote:
> > > Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade)
> > > install java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I
> > > upgrade jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the
> > > tools.
> > >
> > > The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location
> > > of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
> > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
> > >
> > > # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> > > .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSION}
> > > .endif
> > > BUILD_DEPENDS+=${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linux-sun-jdk15
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> > > linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+= line
> > > inside the if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is
> > > only needed if no jdk is present.
> >
> > Your analysis sounds right.
>
> Almost, doing this will remove the dependency on linux-sun-jdk15 if
> another bootstrap is installed, but it won't add one for the installed
> bootstrap.
In the normal case, the installed bootstrap of a native jdk is going to
be itself, so adding a new dependency is going to be undesirable.
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> RW wrote:
>
> > What I don't understand is why portmaster doesn't leave missing
> > build-dependencies to the ports-system itself.
>
> Because that's part of portmaster's design. It takes each of the build
> and run dependencies and handles the compilation and installation
> itself. That way you get all of portmaster's benefits for each port
> that you install, not just the parent.
>
> > I wasn't using the -t option and ${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac is
> > provided by jdk15.
>
> Are there CONFLICTS set between jkd15 and linux-sun-jdk15?
No, there isn't.
Given that lots of people say they use portmaster because it doesn't
depend on ruby, bringing in a gratuitous jdk and all its dependencies,
is going to be a serious issue for some people.
In a way this make thing simpler, as it makes a stronger case for fixing
the jdk makefiles, which will fix the problem with portmanager too.
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On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 00:31 +0100, RW wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:59:09 -0400
> Robert Noland <rnoland@2hip.net> wrote:
>=20
> > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:28 -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> > > RW wrote:
> > > > Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade)
> > > > install java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I
> > > > upgrade jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the
> > > > tools.
> > > >=20
> > > > The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location
> > > > of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
> > > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
> > > >=20
> > > > # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> > > > .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> > > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=3D${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSIO=
N}=20
> > > > .endif
> > > > BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linu=
x-sun-jdk15
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> > > > linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D line
> > > > inside the if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is
> > > > only needed if no jdk is present.
> > >=20
> > > Your analysis sounds right.
> >=20
> > Almost, doing this will remove the dependency on linux-sun-jdk15 if
> > another bootstrap is installed, but it won't add one for the installed
> > bootstrap. =20
>=20
> In the normal case, the installed bootstrap of a native jdk is going to
> be itself, so adding a new dependency is going to be undesirable.
I agree, having it depend on itself isn't good. In the case of jdk14 it
can only bootstrap from linux-sun-jdk14 or native jdk14 so either it was
built via linux-jdk and should list a dependency on it, or it was built
via itself and should not list a dependency.
For jdk15 however, it can be built using any 1 of 5 bootstrap jdks,
diablo-jdk15, jdk15 (native), jdk14 (native), linux-sun-jdk15, or
linux-sun-jdk14 in that order of preference. As it stands, it will
always list a dependency on diablo-jdk15 (current cvs) or linux-sun-jdk
before. It will always list the same dependency, no matter what jdk was
used to bootstrap. The change proposed above would mean that if any
eligible bootstrap exists no dependency will be recorded, even if that
bootstrap jdk is not itself.
The short version is:
Without the change, you always record a dependency on diablo-jdk15
With the change, first build record a dependency on diablo-jdk15,
subsequent builds record no dependency.
=20
robert.
=20
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:49:57 -0400
Robert Noland <rnoland@2hip.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 00:31 +0100, RW wrote:
>
> > In the normal case, the installed bootstrap of a native jdk is
> > going to be itself, so adding a new dependency is going to be
> > undesirable.
>
> I agree, having it depend on itself isn't good. In the case of jdk14
> it can only bootstrap from linux-sun-jdk14 or native jdk14 so either
> it was built via linux-jdk and should list a dependency on it, or it
> was built via itself and should not list a dependency.
>
> For jdk15 however, it can be built using any 1 of 5 bootstrap jdks,
> diablo-jdk15, jdk15 (native), jdk14 (native), linux-sun-jdk15, or
> linux-sun-jdk14 in that order of preference. As it stands, it will
> always list a dependency on diablo-jdk15 (current cvs) or
> linux-sun-jdk before. It will always list the same dependency, no
> matter what jdk was used to bootstrap. The change proposed above
> would mean that if any eligible bootstrap exists no dependency will
> be recorded, even if that bootstrap jdk is not itself.
>
> The short version is:
>
> Without the change, you always record a dependency on diablo-jdk15
>
> With the change, first build record a dependency on diablo-jdk15,
> subsequent builds record no dependency.
I think it should default to building with itself and having no build
dependency. That seems to be the right thing to do because a
leaf-deletion program that understands build dependencies will then
pickup the bootstrap port as a new leaf.
Offhand the only consequence I can see of not having the actual
dependency is that the primary jdk and the bootstrap jdk might get
rebuilt out of order - but that's essentially going to be the case when
a port bootstraps itself (unless it's built twice).
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RW wrote:
>> But it will work from /etc/make.conf (using either "=" or "+="), as
>> long as you don't select LDAP support.
>
> Have you actually tried this? A few years ago I couldn't get it, nor
> several variations on it, to work. IIRC there were a lot of other people
> who had problems with it on various mailing lists.
I think you are right, it doesn't work. I modified the pine4 Makefile to
pass the PASSFILE variable but Pine doesn't seem to be built with PASSFILE
support.
Regards,
Rakhesh
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Subject: Re: Portmaster and Portmanager problem with jdk15
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RW wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:07:52 -0700
> Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
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>> RW wrote:
>>
>>> What I don't understand is why portmaster doesn't leave missing
>>> build-dependencies to the ports-system itself.
>> Because that's part of portmaster's design. It takes each of the build
>> and run dependencies and handles the compilation and installation
>> itself. That way you get all of portmaster's benefits for each port
>> that you install, not just the parent.
>>
>>> I wasn't using the -t option and ${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac is
>>> provided by jdk15.
>> Are there CONFLICTS set between jkd15 and linux-sun-jdk15?
>
> No, there isn't.
Bummer, that would have been the easiest way to fix this.
> Given that lots of people say they use portmaster because it doesn't
> depend on ruby, bringing in a gratuitous jdk and all its dependencies,
> is going to be a serious issue for some people.
Yeah, I agree.
> In a way this make thing simpler, as it makes a stronger case for fixing
> the jdk makefiles, which will fix the problem with portmanager too.
Ok, that (and your followups to this thread) sounds to me like you
have an idea in mind for how this should work on your end. If you need
me to do anything please let me know.
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Subject: Re: Building Pine with PASSFILE option
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On 8/7/07, Rakhesh Sasidharan <rakhesh@rakhesh.com> wrote:
> RW wrote:
> >> But it will work from /etc/make.conf (using either "=" or "+="), as
> >> long as you don't select LDAP support.
> >
> > Have you actually tried this? A few years ago I couldn't get it, nor
> > several variations on it, to work. IIRC there were a lot of other people
> > who had problems with it on various mailing lists.
>
> I think you are right, it doesn't work. I modified the pine4 Makefile to
> pass the PASSFILE variable but Pine doesn't seem to be built with PASSFILE
> support.
>
As you found out setting the PASSFILE variable via the Makefile or
/etc/make.conf didn't work.
I was able to make it work with the hint from RW by modifying
pine/osdep/os-bsf.h, and then creating a new patch-ac file.
Attached is the patch for the ports Makefile, and files/patch-ac. The
only thing missing is your change for the warning message when the
PASSFILE option is enabled.
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Scot Hetzel wrote:
> Attached is the patch for the ports Makefile, and files/patch-ac. The
> only thing missing is your change for the warning message when the
> PASSFILE option is enabled.
Thanks, I'll take a look at this one.
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Trying to upgrade from 3.1,1 to 3.3_1,1 I am getting the following error:
===> Found saved configuration for swt-devel-3.3,1
===> Extracting for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
=> MD5 Checksum OK for swt-3.3-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip.
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for swt-3.3-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip.
===> swt-devel-3.3_1,1 depends on executable: unzip - found
===> Patching for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
===> Applying FreeBSD patches for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to ./os.c.rej
=> Patch patch-os.c failed to apply cleanly.
=> Patch(es) patch-OS.java patch-build.sh patch-build.xml
patch-make_freebsd.mak applied cleanly.
*** Error code 1
Ports were updated last night with portsnap.
Thank you.
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On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 17:42 +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> Trying to upgrade from 3.1,1 to 3.3_1,1 I am getting the following error:
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D> Found saved configuration for swt-devel-3.3,1
> =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
> =3D> MD5 Checksum OK for swt-3.3-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip.
> =3D> SHA256 Checksum OK for swt-3.3-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip.
> =3D=3D=3D> swt-devel-3.3_1,1 depends on executable: unzip - found
> =3D=3D=3D> Patching for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
> =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
> 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to ./os.c.rej
> =3D> Patch patch-os.c failed to apply cleanly.
> =3D> Patch(es) patch-OS.java patch-build.sh patch-build.xml
> patch-make_freebsd.mak applied cleanly.
> *** Error code 1
>=20
The patch doesn't apply cleanly to the amd64 distfile. I'm working on
it, but I don't have an amd64 to test it out on.
If you could manually remove the patch ( cd files ; rm patch-os.c ) and
it will build successfully. Then see if opening a file dialog in
something that uses it causes the app to crash on amd64 also.
robert.
> Ports were updated last night with portsnap.
>=20
> Thank you.
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FreeBSD px1.cwahi.com 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #2: Fri Jul 20
08:42:22 EDT 2007 tony@db.cwahi.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CWahi amd64
px1 is a jail created with ezjail with nullfs mounted links
I have built apache from an nfs mounted ports tree, and when I run it I get:
px1# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh start
Starting apache.
Syntax error on line 206 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf:
Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_mmap_static.so into server:
/usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_mmap_static.so: Undefined symbol "ap_null_cleanup"
If I comment out the mod_mmap_static.so, the next one complains:
px1# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh start
Starting apache.
Syntax error on line 207 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf:
Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_vhost_alias.so into server:
/usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_vhost_alias.so: Undefined symbol "ap_table_setn"
I googled and found references to this but the solution was just to rebuild
the port and all modules - which I did and still no go.
Ideas?
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> I googled and found references to this but the solution was just to rebuild
> the port and all modules - which I did and still no go.
>
> Ideas?
First, you didn't state what version of Apache, so I'll assume 2.2.
This almost looks like an APR incompatibility (Apache's bundled APR vs.
a newer version installed in pods). Do you happen to have devel/apr
or devel/apr-svn installed?
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> First, you didn't state what version of Apache, so I'll assume 2.2.
>
> This almost looks like an APR incompatibility (Apache's bundled APR vs.
> a newer version installed in pods). Do you happen to have devel/apr
> or devel/apr-svn installed?
Ah, my bad! I always seem to miss 1 piece of vital info :)
I had a similar experience with Apache 2 and opted to use apache13-modssl
from ports. Portsnap done July 26, 1PM EST
The make options:
px1# make APACHE_BUFFERED_LOGS=yes WITH_APACHE_PERF_TUNING=yes
WITH_APACHE_LATESTLOG=yes install
Prior to that only perl 5.8.8 was installed via ports.
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Hello,
How can I tell if the package that is openoffice.org-2.2.1 has CUPS
support compiled in?
Traditionally, I've built OO.org from source to ensure I have CUPS
enabled, but it'll save me a bunch of time if the package is already
there.
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> Hello,
>=20
> How can I tell if the package that is openoffice.org-2.2.1 has CUPS
> support compiled in?
>=20
> Traditionally, I've built OO.org from source to ensure I have CUPS
> enabled, but it'll save me a bunch of time if the package is already
> there.
Hello Doug,
As you see on
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=3Dopenoffice.org-2.2.1
CUPS (cups-base) is not listed as a dependency.=20
Packages are always built with default options you can find in
files inside the ports tree, without alterations
from /var/db/ports/*/options, configuration files like
/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf (for portupgrade), etc. This means
that OpenOffice package is (at this moment) built without CUPS support
because, according to what is stated in
/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2/, CUPS support has to be explicitly
requested, in which case it will be added as a dependency.
Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87
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Hi there,
I noticed today that ''security/ca-roots'' expires in less than a month.
After it expires where can one get the CA certificates from?
TIA,
Rakhesh
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>I noticed today that ''security/ca-roots'' expires in less than a month.=
=20
>After it expires where can one get the CA certificates from?
There's a security/ca_root_nss port that installs the root certificate
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on 08/08/2007 18:23 Robert Noland said the following:
> On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 17:42 +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>> Trying to upgrade from 3.1,1 to 3.3_1,1 I am getting the following error:
>>
>> ===> Found saved configuration for swt-devel-3.3,1
>> ===> Extracting for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
>> => MD5 Checksum OK for swt-3.3-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip.
>> => SHA256 Checksum OK for swt-3.3-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip.
>> ===> swt-devel-3.3_1,1 depends on executable: unzip - found
>> ===> Patching for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
>> ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
>> 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to ./os.c.rej
>> => Patch patch-os.c failed to apply cleanly.
>> => Patch(es) patch-OS.java patch-build.sh patch-build.xml
>> patch-make_freebsd.mak applied cleanly.
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>
> The patch doesn't apply cleanly to the amd64 distfile. I'm working on
> it, but I don't have an amd64 to test it out on.
Yes, I have amd64 system. Sorry for not saying this from the very start.
> If you could manually remove the patch ( cd files ; rm patch-os.c ) and
> it will build successfully. Then see if opening a file dialog in
> something that uses it causes the app to crash on amd64 also.
Done. The only application using swt-devel that I have installed is
azureus and it crashes in open file dialog with the same symptoms:
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
# SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x00000008008961e6, pid=11219, tid=0x50c000
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (diablo-1.5.0_07-b01 mixed
mode)
# Problematic frame:
# C [libc.so.6+0x301e6] realpath+0x1e6
...
Abort (core dumped)
Exit 134
--
Andriy Gapon
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Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2007-Aug-09 10:15:45 +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan <rakhesh@rakhesh.com> wrote:
>> I noticed today that ''security/ca-roots'' expires in less than a month.
>> After it expires where can one get the CA certificates from?
>
> There's a security/ca_root_nss port that installs the root certificate
> bundle from the Mozilla project. There are some differences between
> this set and those installed by the ca-roots port.
>
Thank you for that. What sort of differences are there between this set
and ca-roots? Any place I can get more info on that?
Regards,
Rakhesh
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> > This used to work under 32 bit kernel+userland on the same
> > machine. After I switched to a 64 bit kernel+userland, I
> > used original 32 httpsd until now. Today I decided to
> > compile it for 64 bit and now it dies with:
> >
> > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh start
> > Syntax error on line 208 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpsd.conf:
> > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_mmap_static.so into server: /usr/
> loc
> > al/libexec/apache/mod_mmap_static.so: Undefined symbol "ap_null_cleanup"
> >
> > And yet apache13 works fine. Has anyone else seen this? Any workaround?
>
> Yes, Please rebuild all apache modules, as the module ABI is diffrent.
Thanks for your suggestion however I am not using anything
other than what is in apache13+ssl. There are no other
modules and all of apache13+ssl gets built from scratch.
I finally had a chance to look into this and it appears that
just like www/apache13, the www/apach13-ssl port needs to use
-Wl,-E flag for link stage of httpsd (-Wl tells cc to pass
the following flags to ld. -E tells ld to export symbols
from the executable so that shared libs can reference these
symbols). See apache13/files/patch-ae. So this is a gcc4.x
problem not a 64bit system related problem.
Probably all of apache13 patches need to be reviewed and if
necessary applied to the related apache13?* ports.
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>Thank you for that. What sort of differences are there between this set an=
d=20
>ca-roots? Any place I can get more info on that?
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> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:48:52 -0500 (CDT)
> "Doug Poland" <doug@polands.org> wrote:
>=20
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > How can I tell if the package that is openoffice.org-2.2.1 has CUPS
> > support compiled in?
> >=20
> > Traditionally, I've built OO.org from source to ensure I have CUPS
> > enabled, but it'll save me a bunch of time if the package is already
> > there.
>=20
> Hello Doug,
>=20
> As you see on
>=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=3Dopenoffice.org-2.2.1
>=20
> CUPS (cups-base) is not listed as a dependency.=20
>=20
> Packages are always built with default options you can find in
> files inside the ports tree, without alterations
> from /var/db/ports/*/options, configuration files like
> /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf (for portupgrade), etc. This means
> that OpenOffice package is (at this moment) built without CUPS support
> because, according to what is stated in
> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2/, CUPS support has to be explicitly
> requested, in which case it will be added as a dependency.
>=20
> Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87
:) nice one Nikola , didnt know that bit of info.
yes,i had to compile OOO myself to get proper cups support...wasnt too hard=
really.
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Hello All.
I try to install mod_pyhon3 from ports and was some saddened.
The port was installed correctly but name for package is "mod_python".
It makes the problem if i try to create packages "mod_python" for
different apache versions(for example apache20 and apache22). This
packages was created with the same name.
So impossible to create local repository of packages with all package=
s
what i need.
Decide:
Add PKGNAMESUFFX into Makefile of port like this for example:
.if (${APACHE_PORT} =3D=3D "www/apache22")
PKGNAMESUFFIX=3D -ap22
.elif (${APACHE_PORT} =3D=3D "www/apache20")
PKGNAMESUFFIX=3D -ap20
.endif
This problem exists in mod_jk2 and mod_perl.
Possibly somethere else...
Best regards.
P.S: Sorry to my badly English..
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On 8/9/07, Alexey Rubtsov <arubtsov@swsoft.com> wrote:
> I try to install mod_pyhon3 from ports and was some saddened.
> The port was installed correctly but name for package is "mod_python".
> It makes the problem if i try to create packages "mod_python" for
> different apache versions(for example apache20 and apache22). This
> packages was created with the same name.
> So impossible to create local repository of packages with all packages
> what i need.
>
>
> Decide:
> Add PKGNAMESUFFX into Makefile of port like this for example:
>
> .if (${APACHE_PORT} == "www/apache22")
> PKGNAMESUFFIX= -ap22
> .elif (${APACHE_PORT} == "www/apache20")
> PKGNAMESUFFIX= -ap20
> .endif
>
> This problem exists in mod_jk2 and mod_perl.
> Possibly somethere else...
>
The best place to put this would be in Mk/bsd.apache.mk, it would then
get applied to all the mod_* ports. Instead of using PKGNAMESUFFIX,
it should be changed to PKGNAMEPREFIX, as we currently have a
preference for this (i.e py-24-*, py25-*, qt3-*, qt4-*, p5-*,
linux-*).
Scot
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Hi,
I have a problem trying to build vorbis-tools. Here:
http://people.bsdgroup.de/~nornagest/vorbis-tools.log
Is the complete build log. My system is FreeBSD 6 stable. I already
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> Thanks for respecting mail from Russia.
I do not maintain the rrr.de server. Certainly it is not a very good
idea to filter an entire tld. Sorry for that, I'll talk to our admins.
To the pkg-plist issue,
> Fix it please.
I'll look into it and get back to you.
Riggs
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> How rude :(
Thank you, Kris, for this proof of enlightenment, insight and wisdom.
Your comments are (and always have been) so incredibly useful, I don't
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But as I am not a native speaker, I have a wonderful excuse, haven't I?
Riggs
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> There's a security/ca_root_nss port that installs the root certificate
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> this set and those installed by the ca-roots port.
I found a mkcabundle program at http://www.mail-archive.com/modssl-
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creates the file locally.
The port seems to fetch a lot of source files just to get the data
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ports infrastructure letting you know when it needs updating.
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:59:17PM +0800, Thomas Zander wrote:
> On 06/08/07, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:
>=20
> > How rude :(
>=20
> Thank you, Kris, for this proof of enlightenment, insight and wisdom.
> Your comments are (and always have been) so incredibly useful, I don't
> find appropriate words to describe my gratitude.
> But as I am not a native speaker, I have a wonderful excuse, haven't I?
>=20
> Riggs
I stand by my comment.
Distributed, worldwide projects like FreeBSD rely on communication
between their members. When one project member in a position of
responsibility denies the ability for others to contact him -- whether
it was his direct choice or just because he chooses to use a mail
server with inappropriate filtering -- then it harms the project.
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I trust you'll take steps to restore the ability of our russian users
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contact you by email.
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> Distributed, worldwide projects like FreeBSD rely on communication
> between their members. When one project member in a position of
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> it was his direct choice or just because he chooses to use a mail
> server with inappropriate filtering -- then it harms the project.
>
Kris, FWIW, I think when someone posts a request for help onto
a list, gets back a dozen "Did you RTFM" either on list or offlist,
replies back that they did (And shows they did), and then gets dead
air.......... THAT harms the project.
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On 09/08/07, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:
> Try to imagine the situation if it was reversed. Suppose you were
> trying to send email about a problem or suggested improvement to
> someone in the project, but that person bounced your mail with a
> sweeping generalization like "Rejected: too many germans are spammers
> and you might be one too". How would that make you feel?
Probably it would feel very similar to submitting a patch for an open
problem that is flawlessly picked up by whatever bug reporting system
$project is currently using and then nobody is taking care of it for
several years?
Or does it feel similar like getting mails saying "Your port is crap. Fix it!"?
Don't patrionise me. I did not intend for something like this to happen.
> I trust you'll take steps to restore the ability of our russian users
> (and other groups who may be filtered in bulk by your mail server) to
> contact you by email.
Sure. But I also would have done it without your explicit, additional,
and frankly somewhat arrogant looking comment. Sergey's mail would
have been completely sufficient.
Riggs
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> >
> > Distributed, worldwide projects like FreeBSD rely on communication
> > between their members. When one project member in a position of
> > responsibility denies the ability for others to contact him -- whether
> > it was his direct choice or just because he chooses to use a mail
> > server with inappropriate filtering -- then it harms the project.
> >
> Kris, FWIW, I think when someone posts a request for help onto
> a list, gets back a dozen "Did you RTFM" either on list or offlist,
> replies back that they did (And shows they did), and then gets dead
> air.......... THAT harms the project.
Uh, you seem to be axe grinding, but I told you to follow up with the
maintainer once I evaluated your report and didn't spot any obvious
problems. Why wasn't that good enough for you?
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On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 10:51 +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> on 08/08/2007 18:23 Robert Noland said the following:
> > On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 17:42 +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> >> Trying to upgrade from 3.1,1 to 3.3_1,1 I am getting the following err=
or:
> >>
> >> =3D=3D=3D> Found saved configuration for swt-devel-3.3,1
> >> =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
> >> =3D> MD5 Checksum OK for swt-3.3-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip.
> >> =3D> SHA256 Checksum OK for swt-3.3-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip.
> >> =3D=3D=3D> swt-devel-3.3_1,1 depends on executable: unzip - found
> >> =3D=3D=3D> Patching for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
> >> =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for swt-devel-3.3_1,1
> >> 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to ./os.c.rej
> >> =3D> Patch patch-os.c failed to apply cleanly.
> >> =3D> Patch(es) patch-OS.java patch-build.sh patch-build.xml
> >> patch-make_freebsd.mak applied cleanly.
> >> *** Error code 1
> >>
> >=20
> > The patch doesn't apply cleanly to the amd64 distfile. I'm working on
> > it, but I don't have an amd64 to test it out on.
>=20
> Yes, I have amd64 system. Sorry for not saying this from the very start.
>=20
> > If you could manually remove the patch ( cd files ; rm patch-os.c ) and
> > it will build successfully. Then see if opening a file dialog in
> > something that uses it causes the app to crash on amd64 also.
>=20
> Done. The only application using swt-devel that I have installed is
> azureus and it crashes in open file dialog with the same symptoms:
> #
> # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
> #
> # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=3D0x00000008008961e6, pid=3D11219, tid=3D0x50c000
> #
> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (diablo-1.5.0_07-b01 mixed
> mode)
> # Problematic frame:
> # C [libc.so.6+0x301e6] realpath+0x1e6
> ...
> Abort (core dumped)
> Exit 134
Ok, I'll have to use different patches depending on ARCH then. I'll try
and get to this today...
robert.
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:59:49PM +0800, Thomas Zander wrote:
> On 09/08/07, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:
> > Try to imagine the situation if it was reversed. Suppose you were
> > trying to send email about a problem or suggested improvement to
> > someone in the project, but that person bounced your mail with a
> > sweeping generalization like "Rejected: too many germans are spammers
> > and you might be one too". How would that make you feel?
>
> Probably it would feel very similar to submitting a patch for an open
> problem that is flawlessly picked up by whatever bug reporting system
> $project is currently using and then nobody is taking care of it for
> several years?
> Or does it feel similar like getting mails saying "Your port is crap. Fix it!"?
> Don't patrionise me. I did not intend for something like this to happen.
>
> > I trust you'll take steps to restore the ability of our russian users
> > (and other groups who may be filtered in bulk by your mail server) to
> > contact you by email.
>
> Sure. But I also would have done it without your explicit, additional,
> and frankly somewhat arrogant looking comment. Sergey's mail would
> have been completely sufficient.
Excellent, glad to hear it.
Kris
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On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 04:59:09PM -0400, Robert Noland wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:28 -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> > RW wrote:
> > > Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade) install
> > > java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I upgrade
> > > jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the tools.
> > >
> > > The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location
> > > of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
> > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
> > >
> > > # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> > > .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSION}
> > > .endif
> > > BUILD_DEPENDS+=${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linux-sun-jdk15
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> > > linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+= line inside the
> > > if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is only needed if
> > > no jdk is present.
> >
> > Your analysis sounds right.
>
> Almost, doing this will remove the dependency on linux-sun-jdk15 if
> another bootstrap is installed, but it won't add one for the installed
> bootstrap. Currently, it will always have a dependency on
> linux-sun-jdk15 even if another bootstrap jdk is installed. jdk14 also
> has this issue.
So, while the dependency being generated is bogus, I'm not quite sure why
its having the effect that you mention. The port is trying to figure out
which bootstrap it should use out of a list of candidates and, when it has
figured this out, create a "dependency" on it. The dependency is (often)
bogus, but that shouldn't actually have the effect your seeing as I
understand it. In the case where the bootstrap already exists, the
dependency shouldn't be installed as I understand it since the check for
that path will succeed, unless portmaster and portmanager decide to do
their own proactive installation of dependencies based on the port? In
the case where the bootstrap doesn't exist then the dependency will be
the correct default bootstrap and should be installed.
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> "Doug Poland" <doug@polands.org> wrote:
> >
> > How can I tell if the package that is openoffice.org-2.2.1 has CUPS
> > support compiled in?
> >
> > Traditionally, I've built OO.org from source to ensure I have CUPS
> > enabled, but it'll save me a bunch of time if the package is already
> > there.
>
>
> As you see on
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=openoffice.org-2.2.1
>
> CUPS (cups-base) is not listed as a dependency.
>
> Packages are always built with default options you can find in files
> inside the ports tree, without alterations from /var/db/ports/*/options,
> configuration files like /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf (for portupgrade),
> etc. This means that OpenOffice package is (at this moment) built without
> CUPS support because, according to what is stated in
> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2/, CUPS support has to be
> explicitly requested, in which case it will be added as a dependency.
>
> Nikola Le??i??
>
Thank you very much for that thorough explanation.
--
Regards,
Doug
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On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 09:47 -0600, Greg Lewis wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 04:59:09PM -0400, Robert Noland wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:28 -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> > > RW wrote:
> > > > Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade) insta=
ll
> > > > java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If I upgrade
> > > > jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done by the tools.
> > > >=20
> > > > The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the location
> > > > of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping and sets
> > > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
> > > >=20
> > > > # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> > > > .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> > > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=3D${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSIO=
N}=20
> > > > .endif
> > > > BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linu=
x-sun-jdk15
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> > > > linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D line insid=
e the
> > > > if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That line is only needed =
if
> > > > no jdk is present.
> > >=20
> > > Your analysis sounds right.
> >=20
> > Almost, doing this will remove the dependency on linux-sun-jdk15 if
> > another bootstrap is installed, but it won't add one for the installed
> > bootstrap. Currently, it will always have a dependency on
> > linux-sun-jdk15 even if another bootstrap jdk is installed. jdk14 also
> > has this issue.
>=20
> So, while the dependency being generated is bogus, I'm not quite sure why
> its having the effect that you mention. The port is trying to figure out
> which bootstrap it should use out of a list of candidates and, when it ha=
s
> figured this out, create a "dependency" on it. The dependency is (often)
> bogus, but that shouldn't actually have the effect your seeing as I
> understand it. In the case where the bootstrap already exists, the
> dependency shouldn't be installed as I understand it since the check for
> that path will succeed, unless portmaster and portmanager decide to do
> their own proactive installation of dependencies based on the port? In
> the case where the bootstrap doesn't exist then the dependency will be
> the correct default bootstrap and should be installed.
As it stands, the jdk14 and jdk15 ports register a static dependency on
the default bootstrap unconditionally. Portmanager ( I assume
portmaster behave similarly ) parses the Makefiles for all installed
ports so that it can take environment settings and options into account
and then handles the building of each port separately. In the case of
the jdk ports, it always sees a dependency on the default bootstrap.
This means that the default bootstrap must be installed and current
before it will update the jdk ports, even if it is a rebuild which may
be bootstrapped by itself.
The proposed patch above, does resolve this issue, however it doesn't
allow for an accurate dependency registration of the bootstrap that was
actually used to build the port. In the case of jdk14 this is fine
because only two possible bootstraps exist, linux or itself. For jdk15,
where five possible bootstraps exist we may not accurately record the
bootstrap that was used for the build. Since diablo is the highest
priority bootstrap for jdk15, if it is installed it will be used in
preference of all others, but no dependency would be registered on it.
robert.
=20
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> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
> > >
> > > Distributed, worldwide projects like FreeBSD rely on communication
> > > between their members. When one project member in a position of
> > > responsibility denies the ability for others to contact him -- whether
> > > it was his direct choice or just because he chooses to use a mail
> > > server with inappropriate filtering -- then it harms the project.
> > >
> > Kris, FWIW, I think when someone posts a request for help onto
> > a list, gets back a dozen "Did you RTFM" either on list or offlist,
> > replies back that they did (And shows they did), and then gets dead
> > air.......... THAT harms the project.
>
> Uh, you seem to be axe grinding, but I told you to follow up with the
> maintainer once I evaluated your report and didn't spot any obvious
> problems. Why wasn't that good enough for you?
>
If you mean axe grinding in the sense that over the years I've
posted to freebsd-* for help with things pertaining to either a single
piece of software, procedure I read somewhere, problem during an
upgrade, etc... and either been blown off, told to re-read the docs
that I've missed a crucial step (Which I stated that I did perform
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do with it first... Then yea, I guess you can call it axe grinding.
If your talking about the most recent interaction you/I had about
portupgrade and +CONTENTS, thats a dead issue to me once others said
they saw it too. (Yea, its annoying as all hell especially on a filesystem
where every read/write is "precious", but I'll get over it, and if I
can't, I will follow the sage advice to CTFPM). And hey, yea, it was
f'n good enough for me, so thanks! (But again, you seem to be quite
defensive that I'm supposedly "axe grinding" over it)
Tuc
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:16:58PM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
> >=20
> > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > > Distributed, worldwide projects like FreeBSD rely on communication
> > > > between their members. When one project member in a position of
> > > > responsibility denies the ability for others to contact him -- whet=
her
> > > > it was his direct choice or just because he chooses to use a mail
> > > > server with inappropriate filtering -- then it harms the project.
> > > >=20
> > > Kris, FWIW, I think when someone posts a request for help onto
> > > a list, gets back a dozen "Did you RTFM" either on list or offlist,
> > > replies back that they did (And shows they did), and then gets dead
> > > air.......... THAT harms the project.
> >=20
> > Uh, you seem to be axe grinding, but I told you to follow up with the
> > maintainer once I evaluated your report and didn't spot any obvious
> > problems. Why wasn't that good enough for you?
> >=20
> If you mean axe grinding in the sense that over the years I've
> posted to freebsd-* for help with things pertaining to either a single
> piece of software, procedure I read somewhere, problem during an=20
> upgrade, etc... and either been blown off, told to re-read the docs
> that I've missed a crucial step (Which I stated that I did perform
> in my original email), or told to fix something ELSE that had nothing to
> do with it first... Then yea, I guess you can call it axe grinding.=20
>=20
> If your talking about the most recent interaction you/I had about=20
> portupgrade and +CONTENTS, thats a dead issue to me once others said
> they saw it too. (Yea, its annoying as all hell especially on a filesystem
> where every read/write is "precious", but I'll get over it, and if I
> can't, I will follow the sage advice to CTFPM). And hey, yea, it was
> f'n good enough for me, so thanks! (But again, you seem to be quite
> defensive that I'm supposedly "axe grinding" over it)
I was just surprised at this email that came out of the blue with
clearly with some kind of hidden meaning to it, and all I could think
was that you had some kind of problem with the only email interaction
you and I have had recently.
I'm sorry you had problems in the past, but this list isn't the place
for airing general grievances about FreeBSD.
Kris
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> >
> > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Distributed, worldwide projects like FreeBSD rely on communication
> > > > between their members. When one project member in a position of
> > > > responsibility denies the ability for others to contact him -- whether
> > > > it was his direct choice or just because he chooses to use a mail
> > > > server with inappropriate filtering -- then it harms the project.
> > > >
> > > Kris, FWIW, I think when someone posts a request for help onto
> > > a list, gets back a dozen "Did you RTFM" either on list or offlist,
> > > replies back that they did (And shows they did), and then gets dead
> > > air.......... THAT harms the project.
> >
> > Uh, you seem to be axe grinding, but I told you to follow up with the
> > maintainer once I evaluated your report and didn't spot any obvious
> > problems. Why wasn't that good enough for you?
> >
> If you mean axe grinding in the sense that over the years I've
> posted to freebsd-* for help with things pertaining to either a single
> piece of software, procedure I read somewhere, problem during an
> upgrade, etc... and either been blown off, told to re-read the docs
> that I've missed a crucial step (Which I stated that I did perform
> in my original email), or told to fix something ELSE that had nothing to
> do with it first... Then yea, I guess you can call it axe grinding.
Perhaps FreeBSD is not the correct community for you?
I don't mean that negatively, or that I _want_ you to go away. It's just
that open source projects have "personalities". The communities that support
them (Linux, FreeBSD, etc) have ideals and traditions and so forth.
While I don't ever want to chase anyone away from FreeBSD, the point (in
my mind) of open source projects is that you can choose what works for you
with no strings, and even fork off a project and do it your own way if you
so desire.
If you're having so much trouble with the FreeBSD community, I would suggest
one of two strategies:
*) re-evaluate they way you interact with the FreeBSD community
*) try to find a community that you can interact with more successfully
--
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> In response to "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" <ml@t-b-o-h.net>:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Distributed, worldwide projects like FreeBSD rely on communication
> > > > > between their members. When one project member in a position of
> > > > > responsibility denies the ability for others to contact him -- whether
> > > > > it was his direct choice or just because he chooses to use a mail
> > > > > server with inappropriate filtering -- then it harms the project.
> > > > >
> > > > Kris, FWIW, I think when someone posts a request for help onto
> > > > a list, gets back a dozen "Did you RTFM" either on list or offlist,
> > > > replies back that they did (And shows they did), and then gets dead
> > > > air.......... THAT harms the project.
> > >
> > > Uh, you seem to be axe grinding, but I told you to follow up with the
> > > maintainer once I evaluated your report and didn't spot any obvious
> > > problems. Why wasn't that good enough for you?
> > >
> > If you mean axe grinding in the sense that over the years I've
> > posted to freebsd-* for help with things pertaining to either a single
> > piece of software, procedure I read somewhere, problem during an
> > upgrade, etc... and either been blown off, told to re-read the docs
> > that I've missed a crucial step (Which I stated that I did perform
> > in my original email), or told to fix something ELSE that had nothing to
> > do with it first... Then yea, I guess you can call it axe grinding.
>
> Perhaps FreeBSD is not the correct community for you?
>
> I don't mean that negatively, or that I _want_ you to go away. It's just
> that open source projects have "personalities". The communities that support
> them (Linux, FreeBSD, etc) have ideals and traditions and so forth.
>
> While I don't ever want to chase anyone away from FreeBSD, the point (in
> my mind) of open source projects is that you can choose what works for you
> with no strings, and even fork off a project and do it your own way if you
> so desire.
>
> If you're having so much trouble with the FreeBSD community, I would suggest
> one of two strategies:
> *) re-evaluate they way you interact with the FreeBSD community
> *) try to find a community that you can interact with more successfully
>
"So much trouble"??? I'm not sure where I said I had "So much trouble".
I started my PC *nix life with Linux 0.9 . I've used NetBSD. I've been using
FreeBSD since BSD/OS sold out to Wind River Systems sometime in 2001 or so.
I was on mailing lists for all those, and yea, at times my questions
there went unanswered too. I'm not saying that its unique to FreeBSD. To
paraphrase (AND KIDDING) "I've been ignored on better forums than this".
Mysql, PHP, Cisco (If I have an axe to grind at anyone, right now its
the Cisco NSP and Cisco Usenet groups....), OpenVPN, ISP-Wireless, etc.
Probably ATLEAST once on every list I'm on. FreeBSD became the main operating
system for a Managed Server Hosting company I owned at the time. (Some Solaris).
I personally have 3 laptops with it loaded on, my "day-to-day" one RARELY ever
dual booting into W2K, my personal server has it on it, and all the servers
(Except 1) at my new Managed Server Hosting Company are running it.
I've asked my fair share of questions on the lists, and I've gotten my
fair share of answers. I've posted the best I can, most of the time opting for
offlist trying not to clutter the list (And telling them if my answer DOES
help, to post a "SOLVED" to the list). Yes, there are times I seemed to be
totally blown off as if I didn't exist. I would wait a week (If I could make
it that long, depending on severity), and try to ask again adding anything new
I learned in that timeframe. And yea, sometimes I got blown off again and
sometimes I got some help. But the ratio of being blown off compared to getting
questions answered has been extremely low.
The main point of my reply, was not to grind an axe, just to say in
defense of someone trying to contact a developer privately (Which I personally
try not to do until it becomes a last resort) that being blown off when the user
contacts a list for help (Which should be the first resource) harms us more.
As had been said, communications is important, especially so in my opinion in
the public forums. I'm not asking that everyone cowtow and plead to fix my
problems immediately for me, not by any means. I'm certainly not adverse to any
work, and try to contribute back to projects whenever possible (My name is in a
few pieces of software credits, I've run Listservs to support software, etc).
But when anyone communicates a problem on a list, and doesn't hear back, thats
harmful. I never intended that comment to elicit the responses it has. It was
made with a FWIW (Maybe it should have been IMHO), but it was just supposed to
be a comment to be taken as is and not to become the focus of the back/forth
it has seemed to generate.
I really hate to do it to you guys, but I'm probably going to be here
for the duration. I'll probably ask more questions (Especially as I try to bring
some hardware kicking and screaming through 6 to 7) and I'll probably get
ignored. Stuff happens.
To the rest of the list, I'm sorry if my original comment and/or
followups annoyed/offended/etc anyone.
Tuc
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I'm not sure where this message is better directed, to either the port
maintainer or the questions list. The answer is probably the ports
list.. [Crossposted]
There are two packages that are indicated as installed, py24-dbus and
py25-dbus. Both of these look like identical packages, same version
information and everything.
Is it necessary to have both packages listed as installed? Can't I
remove one or the other? py24-dbus is a dependant package on two
others I have installed, but py25-dbus isn't. Can I, Should I remove
py25-dbus, or would that remove py24-dbus as well?
Thanks for any tips or pointers.
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Hi list,
Please Cc: me when replying.
Look at this Makefile:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/audio/mp3info/Makefile?rev=1.18;content-type=text%2Fplain
There is no WITH_/WITHOUT_ knob to switch off GTK support. Is there
something I'm missing, such as a ports-wide knob to prevent
HAVE_GNOME from working?
Thank you.
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:41:06 -0400
Robert Noland <rnoland@2hip.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 09:47 -0600, Greg Lewis wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 04:59:09PM -0400, Robert Noland wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:28 -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> > > > RW wrote:
> > > > > Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade)
> > > > > install java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If
> > > > > I upgrade jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done
> > > > > by the tools.
> > > > >
> > > > > The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the
> > > > > location of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping
> > > > > and sets BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
> > > > >
> > > > > # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> > > > > .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> > > > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VERSION}
> > > > > .endif
> > > > > BUILD_DEPENDS+=${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/linux-sun-jdk15
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> > > > > linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+= line
> > > > > inside the if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That
> > > > > line is only needed if no jdk is present.
> > > >
> > > > Your analysis sounds right.
> > >
> > > Almost, doing this will remove the dependency on linux-sun-jdk15
> > > if another bootstrap is installed, but it won't add one for the
> > > installed bootstrap. Currently, it will always have a dependency
> > > on linux-sun-jdk15 even if another bootstrap jdk is installed.
> > > jdk14 also has this issue.
> >
> > So, while the dependency being generated is bogus, I'm not quite
> > sure why its having the effect that you mention. The port is
> > trying to figure out which bootstrap it should use out of a list of
> > candidates and, when it has figured this out, create a "dependency"
> > on it. The dependency is (often) bogus, but that shouldn't
> > actually have the effect your seeing as I understand it. In the
> > case where the bootstrap already exists, the dependency shouldn't
> > be installed as I understand it since the check for that path will
> > succeed, unless portmaster and portmanager decide to do their own
> > proactive installation of dependencies based on the port? In the
> > case where the bootstrap doesn't exist then the dependency will be
> > the correct default bootstrap and should be installed.
>
> As it stands, the jdk14 and jdk15 ports register a static dependency
> on the default bootstrap unconditionally. Portmanager ( I assume
> portmaster behave similarly ) parses the Makefiles for all installed
> ports so that it can take environment settings and options into
> account and then handles the building of each port separately. In
> the case of the jdk ports, it always sees a dependency on the default
> bootstrap. This means that the default bootstrap must be installed
> and current before it will update the jdk ports, even if it is a
> rebuild which may be bootstrapped by itself.
It's a little irritating that Portmanager does that because I've
seen it go back and rebuild a port it's already built in order for it
to pick-up a possible new run dependency. By comparison with that the
indiscriminate building of this bootstrap port is pretty crude.
I don't think the handling of build-dependencies was left in a very
good state when Michael Shultz departed, you only have to look at the
way it handles bison conflicts.
> The proposed patch above, does resolve this issue, however it doesn't
> allow for an accurate dependency registration of the bootstrap that
> was actually used to build the port.
Maybe something has changed, but I thought that only library and
run dependencies were supposed to be registered.
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> Hi list,
>
> Please Cc: me when replying.
>
> Look at this Makefile:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/audio/mp3info/Makefile?rev=
=3D1.18;content-type=3Dtext%2Fplain
>
> There is no WITH_/WITHOUT_ knob to switch off GTK support. Is there
> something I'm missing, such as a ports-wide knob to prevent
> HAVE_GNOME from working?
The HAVE_GNOME is very flexible. You can do either to disable gtk12 by =
using WITHOUT_GNOME=3Dyes or WITHOUT_GNOME=3Dgtk12.
Cheers,
Mezz
> Thank you.
> Regards,
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On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 22:07 +0100, RW wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:41:06 -0400
> Robert Noland <rnoland@2hip.net> wrote:
>=20
> > On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 09:47 -0600, Greg Lewis wrote: =20
> > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 04:59:09PM -0400, Robert Noland wrote: =20
> > > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:28 -0700, Doug Barton wrote: =20
> > > > > RW wrote: =20
> > > > > > Both Portmaster and Portmanager (I haven't tried Portupgrade)
> > > > > > install java/linux-sun-jdk15 on an upgrade of java/jdk15. If
> > > > > > I upgrade jdk15 manually it isn't built, so it must be done
> > > > > > by the tools.
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > The way the jdk15 makefile works is that it looks for the
> > > > > > location of an existing jdk installation for bootstrapping
> > > > > > and sets BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR accordingly. We then have:
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > # if no valid jdk found, set dependency
> > > > > > .if !defined(BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR)
> > > > > > BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR?=3D${LOCALBASE}/linux-sun-jdk${SUN_LINUX_JDK_VE=
RSION}=20
> > > > > > .endif
> > > > > > BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D${BOOTSTRAPJDKDIR}/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/=
linux-sun-jdk15
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > I don't know why this causes the build-tools to install
> > > > > > linux-sun-jdk15, but simply moving the BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D line
> > > > > > inside the if-endif block, seems to fix the problem. That
> > > > > > line is only needed if no jdk is present. =20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Your analysis sounds right. =20
> > > >=20
> > > > Almost, doing this will remove the dependency on linux-sun-jdk15
> > > > if another bootstrap is installed, but it won't add one for the
> > > > installed bootstrap. Currently, it will always have a dependency
> > > > on linux-sun-jdk15 even if another bootstrap jdk is installed.
> > > > jdk14 also has this issue. =20
> > >=20
> > > So, while the dependency being generated is bogus, I'm not quite
> > > sure why its having the effect that you mention. The port is
> > > trying to figure out which bootstrap it should use out of a list of
> > > candidates and, when it has figured this out, create a "dependency"
> > > on it. The dependency is (often) bogus, but that shouldn't
> > > actually have the effect your seeing as I understand it. In the
> > > case where the bootstrap already exists, the dependency shouldn't
> > > be installed as I understand it since the check for that path will
> > > succeed, unless portmaster and portmanager decide to do their own
> > > proactive installation of dependencies based on the port? In the
> > > case where the bootstrap doesn't exist then the dependency will be
> > > the correct default bootstrap and should be installed. =20
> >=20
> > As it stands, the jdk14 and jdk15 ports register a static dependency
> > on the default bootstrap unconditionally. Portmanager ( I assume
> > portmaster behave similarly ) parses the Makefiles for all installed
> > ports so that it can take environment settings and options into
> > account and then handles the building of each port separately. In
> > the case of the jdk ports, it always sees a dependency on the default
> > bootstrap. This means that the default bootstrap must be installed
> > and current before it will update the jdk ports, even if it is a
> > rebuild which may be bootstrapped by itself. =20
>=20
> It's a little irritating that Portmanager does that because I've
> seen it go back and rebuild a port it's already built in order for it
> to pick-up a possible new run dependency. By comparison with that the
> indiscriminate building of this bootstrap port is pretty crude.=20
>=20
> I don't think the handling of build-dependencies was left in a very
> good state when Michael Shultz departed, you only have to look at the
> way it handles bison conflicts.
If I ever get enough free time, I have a handful of things I would like
to address with portmanager, but for now I'm just trying to keep it
working. My solution to the bison issue was to remove OpenOffice in
favor of gnome-office...
=20
> > The proposed patch above, does resolve this issue, however it doesn't
> > allow for an accurate dependency registration of the bootstrap that
> > was actually used to build the port. =20
>=20
> Maybe something has changed, but I thought that only library and
> run dependencies were supposed to be registered.
Hrm, actually you are correct and the proposed patch will cause
portmanager to DTRT, so I don't have any objections to the fix.
robert.
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uname -a
FreeBSD px1.cwahi.com 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #2: Fri Jul 20 08:42:22 EDT 2007
tony@db.cwahi.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CWahi amd64
Building /usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql
===> Building for php4-mysql-4.4.7
/bin/sh /var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql/libtool
--mode=compile cc -I. -I/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql
-DPHP_ATOM_INC -I/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql/include
-I/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql/main
-I/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql
-I/usr/local/include/php -I/usr/local/include/php/main -I/usr/local/include/php/TSRM
-I/usr/local/include/php/Zend -I/usr/local/include/mysql -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O1 -pipe -c
/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql/php_mysql.c -o
php_mysql.lo
cc -I. -I/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql -DPHP_ATOM_INC
-I/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql/include
-I/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql/main
-I/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql
-I/usr/local/include/php -I/usr/local/include/php/main -I/usr/local/include/php/TSRM
-I/usr/local/include/php/Zend -I/usr/local/include/mysql -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O1 -pipe -c
/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql/php_mysql.c -fPIC -DPIC
-o php_mysql.lo
In file included from /usr/local/include/php/main/../main/php_config.h:2694,
from /usr/local/include/php/Zend/zend_config.h:1,
from /usr/local/include/php/Zend/zend.h:51,
from /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h:34,
from
/var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql/php_mysql.c:32:
/usr/include/sys/types.h:164: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers
/usr/include/sys/types.h:260: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers
*** Error code 1
Stop in /var/ports/usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql/work/php-4.4.7/ext/mysql.
*** Error code 1
Ports from portsnap July 26, 1pm.
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With the split of mplayer into mplayer and mencoder, I thought I would
try to find a lazy way to have the options for both on one line in
ports.conf instead of separate entries:
multimedia/mencoder multimedia/mplayer: WITHOUT_RTCPU
Does this patch[1] look good, or are there any problems I am missing?
Obviously, a better solution would be for code to handle
multimedia/{mencoder,mplayer}, but I said I was being lazy. :)
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1. http://www.farley.org/freebsd/tmp/portconf.patch
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hi,
i started to use portupgrade to manage ports on a freebsd 62-RELEASE,
p7 install.
i've installed perl58 from ports, and manage perl module installs with
an up-to-date (v1.9102) CPAN.
i'm building www/mod_perl2 port on freebsd 62rp7. perl 588 is
installed from ports, as well.
my port upgrade process,
portsnap fetch update
pkgdb --autofix --fix-lost
pkgdb -F
portupgrade --verbose --recursive --upward-recursive --all
is straightforward and mostly problem-free.
but, for some (not all) ports that depend on perl-modules, during the
update process i get "Stale Depndency" warnings.
for example, in the case of mod_perl2, i see,
...
Stale dependency: mod_perl2-2.0.3_2,3 -> p5-BSD-Resource-1.28
(devel/p5-BSD-Resource):
Install stale dependency? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] no
New dependency? (? to help):
Delete this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Deleted.
...
now, looking in the mod_perl2 port's Makefile, i find,
BUILD_DEPENDS=
${SITE_PERL}/${PERL_ARCH}/BSD/Resource.pm:${PORTSDIR}/devel/p5-BSD-Resource
which looks to me like it should be checking for & finding
BSD::Resource if it's installed via CPAN.
checking on my system,
module_info BSD::Resource
Name: BSD::Resource
Version: 1.28
Directory: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach
File: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/BSD/Resource.pm
Core module: no
and,
pkg_info | grep "^p5"
(empty)
given the src above (similar to other modules that are having issues
...), should not -- in this case -- mod_perl2 be 'happy' with the
installed BSD::Resource?
thanks!
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:03:02PM -0400 I heard the voice of
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> /usr/include/sys/types.h:164: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers
> /usr/include/sys/types.h:260: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers
I've seen that the last few times I built it (on RELENG_6 too, I
think). Edit the config.h it builds and comment out the lines
typedef'ing uid_t and gid_t, and it'll build. I haven't taken the
time to figure out why it tries to define them itself...
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Hello ports, I'm having continued trouble getting the java/jkd15 port to
compile under 7.0-CURRENT (kernel/world as of Jun 22 12:56:07 MST 2007). My
ports tree was CVSup'ed 8/8/2007. I manually fetched the tarballs the port
requires and it churns and churns ultimately ending with the following:
<<<Finished Recursively making javac all @ Thu Aug 9 20:05:08 MST 2007.
>>>Recursively making recompile all @ Thu Aug 9 20:05:08 MST 2007 ...
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/sun/javac/recompile'
>>>Recursively making library all @ Thu Aug 9 20:05:08 MST 2007 ...
gmake[6]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/sun/javac/recompile/library'
gmake classes copy-classes VARIANT=OPT
gmake[7]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/sun/javac/recompile/library'
(deleted)
../../../../../src/share/classes/java/text/DecimalFormat.java:509: cannot find symbol
symbol : class FieldDelegate
location: class java.text.DecimalFormat
FieldDelegate delegate) {
^
...
../../../../../src/share/classes/java/security/Signature.java:23: cannot find symbol
symbol : class crypto
location: package javax
import javax.crypto.IllegalBlockSizeException;
^
(lots of these type errors)
../../../../../src/share/classes/java/io/ObjectStreamClass.java:976: warning: non-varargs call of varargs method with inexact argument type for last parameter;
cast to java.lang.Object for a varargs call
cast to java.lang.Object[] for a non-varargs call and to suppress this warning
readObjectNoDataMethod.invoke(obj, null);
^
gmake[7]: *** [.compile.classlist] Error 4
What is necessary to get this port to compile under 7.0-CURRENT with a current
ports tree? Do I need dependencies that are not (per chance) specified as build
deps? What is going wrong here?
-Jr
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Hello!
I'm maintainer of net/quagga and www/resin3 ports. Currently I have
PR that resin3 can not be installed on 64bit platform but unfortunatelly
I have no 64bit computers. May someone give me a test box (jail, virtual
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With respect,
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Hello All!.
The target all-depends-list from bsd.ports.mk print dependencies in not
correct order.
In this target dependencies was looked from up to down and do not check
dependencies whoes
already checked(for reduce execution time). As result - order of
dependencies is incorrect.
For example in misc/mc:
# make all-depends-list
ports-mgmt/pkg_install
devel/pkg-config
devel/gmake
converters/libiconv
devel/gettext
devel/glib20
devel/libtool15
misc/ldconfig_compat
lang/perl5.8
But right order was:
ports-mgmt/pkg_install
misc/ldconfig_compat
devel/libtool15
converters/libiconv
devel/gettext
devel/gmake
lang/perl5.8
devel/pkg-config
devel/glib20
So if i already have some packages for install dependencies, i have to
resort
dependencies in right order and install components step by step from port
or package.
I think this target possible to use in ports-mgmt utils like
portupgrade(with -r flag).
--
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Dear FreeBSD Ports Management Team,
I'm a sysadmin in a Institute of Biology in France. I'm using FreeBSD
since version 4.0R.
I have some projects in order to develop some high availability services
(such SMTP or HTTP) for my Institute. I would like to install the most
effective solution known as now, I mean DRBD with HEARTBEAT (cf :
http://www.drbd.org/). Surprisingly, there is a port for HEARTBEAT but
no for DRBD. I think it's a real lack for an "enterprise" use of FreeBSD.
I would like to know if you plan to insert this tool in the port tree
collection soon ?
Thanks for your work...
Karl :)
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Karl.Oulmi wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD Ports Management Team,
>=20
> I'm a sysadmin in a Institute of Biology in France. I'm using FreeBSD
> since version 4.0R.
> I have some projects in order to develop some high availability service=
s
> (such SMTP or HTTP) for my Institute. I would like to install the most
> effective solution known as now, I mean DRBD with HEARTBEAT (cf :
> http://www.drbd.org/). Surprisingly, there is a port for HEARTBEAT but
> no for DRBD. I think it's a real lack for an "enterprise" use of FreeBS=
D.
>=20
> I would like to know if you plan to insert this tool in the port tree
> collection soon ?
Sure. If you use it everyday, could you please give it a shot and
submit a patch with send-pr(1)? Being without enough experience with it
I think what I can do is to resolve compile time issues, but not to
verify if it really works :-)
> Thanks for your work...
> Karl :)
Cheers,
--=20
Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> http://www.delphij.net/
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> >
> > /usr/include/sys/types.h:164: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers
> > /usr/include/sys/types.h:260: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers
>
> think). Edit the config.h it builds and comment out the lines
> typedef'ing uid_t and gid_t, and it'll build. I haven't taken the
Don't know why but the configure script fails to locate cpp. By setting
environment variable CPP and build should go flawlessly.
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***** CISCO ROUTER SPECIAL *****
CISCO3845 Orignial New Open Box
including smartnet 8X5XNBD until June 2008 ($1,400 value)
2 units in stock at $6500 each (50% off GPL $13,000)
***** CISCO MODULE SPECIAL *****
$3500 take all the following:
20 * CAB-SS-449MT New Orignial
15 * CAB-SS-V35MT New Orignial
5 * CAB-SS-X21MT New Orignial
6 * GLC-SX-MM New OEM
1 * NM-4E New OEM
2 * NM-4B-S/T New OEM
20 * NM-4B-S/T Used OEM
1 * NM-8B-S/T New OEM
9 * WIC-1B-S/T New OEM
17 * WS-G5483 New OEM
12 * WS-G5486 New OEM
2 * WS-G5487 New OEM
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The following are Notebook prices. All NEW models come with 1 year
warranty and all RF models with 90 days.
Toshiba Satellite
P205-S6337 $1270 NEW Core_2 Duo T5200 1.60G 200G 2048M 17 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
P205-S6327 $1200 NEW Core_2 Duo T5200 1.60G 200G 1024M 17 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
P205-S6287 $1270 NEW Core_2 Duo T5300 1.73G 200G 2048M 17 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
P205-S6237 $950 NEW P=AE Dual Core T2080 1.73G 120G 1024M 17 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
P105-S9337 $1800 NEW Core_2 Duo T7200 2.00G 200G 2048M 17 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
P105-S6187 $1010 NEW Core_2 Duo T5200 1.60G 120G 2048M 17 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
P105-S6177 $800 RF Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 120G 2048M 17 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
P105-S6147 $800 RF P=AE Dual Core T2060 1.60G 120G 1024M 17 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A215-S4757 $1010 NEW Tur_ 64 X2 TL-56 1.8G 250G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A215-S4747 $880 NEW Tur_ 64 X2 TL-56 1.8G 200G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A215-S4697 $800 NEW Tur_ 64 X2 TL-52 1.6G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A205-S4797 $1020 NEW Core_2 Duo T5300 1.73G 160G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A135-S4488 $990 RF Core_2 Duo T5500 1.60G 220G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VBZ
A105-S4384 $770 RF Core_2 Duo T5500 1.66G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A135-S4478 $920 RF Core_2 Duo T5200 1.60G 180G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VBZ
A135-S4477 $890 RF Core_2 Duo T5200 1.60G 180G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A105-S4334 $780 RF Core_2 Duo T5200 1.60G 160G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A135-S4517 $780 RF Core_2 Duo T5200 1.60G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A135-S4467 $780 RF Core_2 Duo T5200 1.60G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A105-S4547 $740 RF Core_ Duo T2350 1.86G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A105-S4374 $740 RF Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 120G 1536M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A105-S4094 $740 RF Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 120G 1536M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A135-S4457 $690 RF Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 120G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A105-S4397 $710 RF Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A105-S4397 $660 RF Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A105-S4274 $670 RF Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 100G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A135-S4407 $640 RF P=AEDualCore T2060 1.60G 100G 1024M=A015.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A135-S2276 $620 RF P=AEDualCore T2060 1.60G 80G 512M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHB
A105-S4417 $750 RF P=AEDualCore T2060 1.60G 160G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
A105-S4284 $640 RF P=AEDualCore T2050 1.60G 100G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A105-S4074 $630 RF P=AE DualCore T2050 1.60G 120G 512M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A105-S4164 $600 RF Core_ Solo T1350 1.86G 80G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A105-S2236 $500 RF CeleronM 520 1.6G 80G 512M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHB
A135-S2306 $530 RF Celeron=AEM 430 1.73G 80G 512M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHB
A105-S2194 $530 RF Celeron=AEM 420 1.60G 80G 512M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
A105-S2201 $530 RF Celeron=AEM 420 1.60G 80G 512M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW XPH
M105-S3064 $530 RF Core_Duo T2300E 1.66G 120G 1024M 14.1 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
M105-S3084 $760 RF Core_ Duo T2050 1.60G 120G 2048M 14.1 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
M105-S3021 $650 RF Core_ Solo T1300 1.66G 100G 512M 14.1 WXGA DVD-RW XPH
U205-S5067 $1440 NEW Core_2 Duo T7200 2.00G 160G 2048M 12.1 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
U205-S5067 $1330 RF Core_2 Duo T7200 2.00G 160G 2048M 12.1 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
Toshiba Tecra
A8-S8514 $1200 NEW Core_2 Duo T7200 2.00G 120G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW XPP
A8-EZ8512 $960 NEW Core_2 Duo T5500 1.66G 80G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW XPP
A8-EZ8313 $700 RF Core_ Duo T2400 1.66G 80G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-CDRW XPP
A7-S612 $550 RF Core_ Solo T1300 1.66G 80G 512M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW XPP
A6-EZ6312 $700 RF Core_ Duo T2400 1.83G 80G 1024M 14.1 WXGA DVD-RW WL XPP
A4-1MF01D $600 RF P=AE M 760 2.00GHz 80GB 512MB 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW XPP
M3-0EK017 $550 RF P=AE M 770 2.13GHz 1024M 80G 14.1 SXGA+ DVD-CDRW BT XPP
M3-03V017 $560 RF P=AE M 770 2.13G 1024M 60G(7200rpm) 14.1 SXGA+ DVD-CDRW XPP
M3-0DK017 $550 RF P=AE M 770 2.13G 1024M 60G(7200rpm) 14.1 SXGA+ DVD-CDRW XPP
M3-0ES017 $550 RF P=AE M 760 2.00G 1024M 60G(7200rpm) 14.1 SXGA+ DVD-CDRW XPP
M3-03T017 $550 RF P=AE M 760 2.00G 1024M 60G(7200rpm) 14.1 XGA DVD-CDRW XPP
M3-0T8017 $530 RF P=AE M 770 2.00G 1024M 60G 14.1 SXGA+ DVD-CDRW BT XPP
HP Pavilion
TX1127 $1300 RF Tur_ 64 X2 TL-56 1.8G 160G 1024M 12.1 WXGA LS DVD-RW VHP
TX1119 $1230 RF Tur_ 64 X2 TL-56 1.8G 160G 2048M 12.1 WXGA LS DVD-RW VHP
TX1115 $1140 RF Tur_ 64 X2 TL-52 1.6G 120G 1024M 12.1 WXGA LS DVD-RW VHP
DV9500t $1800 NEW Core_2 Duo T7500 2.2G 160G 1024M 17 WSXGA+ LS DVD-RW VHP
DV9500t $1350 NEW Core_2 Duo T7100 1.8G 160G 1024M 17 WXGA DVD-RW BT VHP
DV6500t $1400 NEW Core_2 Duo T7300 2.0G 160G 2048M 15.4 WXGA LS DVD-RW VHP
DV6500t $1380 NEW Core_2 Duo T7300 2.0G 160G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHB
DV6500t $1280 NEW Core_2 Duo T7300 2.0G 120G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHB
DV6567 $1320 NEW Core_2 Duo T7100 1.8G 200G 2048M 15.4 WXGA LS DVD-RW VHP
DV6345 $1000 NEW Core_2 Duo T5300 1.73G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA LS DVD-RW VHP
DV6267 $1050 NEW C2D T5200 1.6G 160G 2048M 15.4 LS DVD-RW VHP
DV6235 $800 RF Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 120G 1024M 15.4 WXGA LS DVD-RW VHP
F577 $740 NEW Tur_ 64 X2 TL-56 1.8G 120G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
V6171 $650 NEW Tur_ 64 X2 TL-50 1.6G 80GB 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW MCE
C501 $500 RF Celeron=AE M 430 1.73G 80GB 512M 15.4 WXGA DVD-CDRW VHB
DV2500t $1380 NEW Core_2 Duo T7300 2.0G 120G 1024M 14 WXGA LS DVD-RW BT VHB
SONY VAIO
AR550E $2180 NEW Core_2 Duo T7100 1.8G 240G 2048M 17 WXGA DVD-RW BT VHP
TXN25N/B $1950 NEW Core_ Solo U1500 1.33G 80G 1024M 11.1 WXGA DVD-RW VBZ
UX380N $1330 NEW Core_ Solo U1500 1.33G 40G 1024M 4.5 WSVGA WAN BT VBZ
UX280P $1210 NEW Core_ Solo U1400 1.2G 40G 1024M 4.5 WSVGA WAN BT XPP
SZ491N/X $2450 NEW Core_2 Duo T7400 2.16G 200G 2048M 13.3 WXGA DVD-RW EDGE
SZ470N/C $2300 NEW Core_2 Duo T7400 2.16G 200G 2048M 13.3 WXGA DVD-RW EDGE
SZ440N12 $1570 NEW Core_2 Duo T7200 2.0G 1024M 100G 13.3 WXGA DVD-RW BT VBZ
FZ180E/B $2000 NEW Core_2 Duo T7300 2.0G 200G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVDBR-RW VHP
FZ140E/B $1310 NEW Core_2 Duo T7100 1.8G 200G 2048M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
N395E/B $1000 NEW Core_2 Duo T5300 1.73G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
N385N/B $980 NEW Core_2 Duo T5300 1.73G 120G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VBZ
N270E/W $950 NEW Core_ Duo T2350 1.86G 160G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
N250E/B $950 NEW Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 120G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
N230E/B $830 NEW Core_ Duo T2250 1.73G 100G 1024M 15.4 WXGA DVD-RW VHP
Apple
MacBook $2700 NEW Pro Core_ 2 Duo T7700 2.4G 160G 2048M 17 DVD-RW BT MacOS
MacBook $2700 NEW Pro Core_ 2 Duo T7700 2.4G 160G 2048M 17 DVD-RW WL MacOS
MacBook $1110 NEW Core_ 2 Duo T7200 2.00G 1G 80G 13.3 WXGA DVD-CDRW MacOS
MacBook $1320 NEW Core_ 2 Duo T7300 2.16G 1G 120G 13.3 WXGA DVD=B1RW BT MacOS
MacBook $1525 NEW Core_ 2 Duo T7300 2.16G 1G 160G 13.3 WXGA DVD=B1RW BT MacOS
MacBook $2430 NEW Pro Core_ 2 Duo T7600 2.33G 160G 2048M 17 DVD-RW WL MacOS
MacBook $2100 NEW Pro Core_ 2 Duo T7600 2.33G 120G 2048M 15.4 DVD-RW MacOS
MacBook $1750 NEW Pro Core_ 2 Duo T7600 2.33G 120G 2048M 15.4 DVD-RW MacOS
Lenovo 3000 N100 $1300 NEW Core_2Duo T7200 2.00G 120G 1024M 15.4 DVD-RW VHP
Acer Aspire AS5100-5033 $600 RF T_64X2 TL50 1.6G 120G 1024M 15.4 DVDRW VHP
Acer Aspire 5050-3371 $630 NEW T_64 MK36 2G 80G 1024M 14.1 WXGA DVD-RW VHB
Fujitsu LifeBook A6020 $950 NEW Core 2 Duo 1.66G 2G 120G DVDRW 15.4 VBz
Fujitsu LifeBook A6020 $850 NEW Core Duo 1.73G 1G 120G DVDRW 15.4 VBz
Fujitsu LifeBook A6020 $870 NEW Core Duo 1.86G 1G 120G DVDRW 15.4 VHP
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Fujitsu Plasma TV/Monitor (NEW, 3 years warranty)
P42VHA51WS 42" EDTV Plasma Monitor $1,800
P42XHA58EB 42" Plasma HD Monitor $2,450
P42XTA51UB 42" HDTV Plasma TV $2,700
P50XHA58EB 50" Plasma HD Monitor $3,150
P50XTA51UB 50" HDTV Plasma TV $3,500
P55XTA51UB 55" HDTV Plasma TV $5,100
P63XTA51UB 63" HDTV Plasma TV $9,400
P37FT05AUB 37" AVIAMO LCD 1080P TV $3,800
P65FT00AUB 65" AVIAMO Plasma 1080P TV $13,600
LPF-D711 3 LCD AVIAMO 1080P Projector $17,500
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All Cisco Models in our inventory are at 40% off GPL.
Any new item not listed can be supplied at 30% off GPL.
Any Refurbished item can be supplied at 47% off GPL.
Smartnet Service Contract is available at 10% off GPL.
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Quantity discount is available. Prices are in US$ and FOB
Los Angeles. For additional information about our company
and products, please visit http://www.computerwide.net
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The following CISCO, 3com, HP, Juniper, and Watchguard
products are ORIGINAL and NEW in RETAIL PACKS.
Please visit the following page for more info:
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Cisco Router (NEW)
CISCO871-K9 $389
CISCO871-SEC-K9 $479
CISCO871W-G-A-K9 $509
CISCO877-K9 $389
CISCO877-SEC/K9 $479
CISCO877W-G-A-K9 $509
CISCO1811/K9 $777
CISCO1811W-AG-A/K9 $957
CISCO1841 $837
CISCO1841-HSEC/K9 $1,797
CISCO1841-SEC/K9 $1,497
CISCO1841-T1 $1,437
CISCO1841-T1SEC/K9 $2,097
CISCO2801 $1,197
CISCO2801-AC-IP $1,422
CISCO2801-HSEC/K9 $2,157
CISCO2801-SEC/K9 $1,737
CISCO2801-V/K9 $1,617
CISCO2801-V3PN-K9 $2,817
CISCO2811 $1,497
CISCO2811-AC-IP $1,737
CISCO2811-HSEC/K9 $2,457
CISCO2811-SEC/K9 $2,037
CISCO2811-V/K9 $1,917
CISCO2811-V3PN-K9 $3,537
CISCO2821 $2,337
CISCO2821-AC-IP $2,697
CISCO2821-HSEC/K9 $3,297
CISCO2821-SEC/K9 $2,877
CISCO2821-V/K9 $2,817
CISCO2821-V3PN-K9 $4,977
CISCO2851 $3,897
CISCO2851-AC-IP $4,257
CISCO2851-HSEC/K9 $4,857
CISCO2851-SEC/K9 $4,437
CISCO2851-V/K9 $4,437
CISCO2851-V3PN-K9 $7,257
CISCO3825 $5,700
CISCO3825-AC-IP $6,060
CISCO3825-HSEC/K9 $6,957
CISCO3825-SEC/K9 $6,537
CISCO3825-V/K9 $6,297
CISCO3825-V3PN/K9 $10,437
CISCO3845 $7,800
CISCO3845-AC-IP $8,160
CISCO3845-HSEC/K9 $9,537
CISCO3845-SEC/K9 $8,637
CISCO3845-V/K9 $8,397
CISCO3845-V3PN/K9 $12,957
Cisco Router Module (New)
AIM-VPN/EPII-PLUS $1,500
AIM-VPN/HPII-PLUS $2,100
HWIC-1ADSL=3D $450
HWIC-1FE=3D $840
HWIC-2FE=3D $1,500
HWIC-1GE-SFP $2,100
HWIC-4A/S $720
HWIC-4ESW $255
HWIC-4ESW-POE $345
HWIC-4T $1,680
HWIC-8A $690
HWIC-8A/S-232 $1,440
HWIC-16A $1,380
HWIC-AP-AG-A $420
HWIC-AP-G-A $300
HWIC-D-9ESW $480
HWIC-D-9ESW-POE $648
ILPM-4 $90
ILPM-8 $168
NM-1FE2W-V2 $1,380
NM-2FE2W-V2 $1,920
NM-1T3/E3 $5,100
NM-4A/S $780
NM-16ESW $897
NM-HD-1V $360
NM-HD-2V $600
NMD-36-ESW-PWR-2GIG $2,757
NME-16ES-1G $1,377
NME-16ES-1G-P $1,635
NME-X-23ES-1G $1,977
NME-X-23ES-1G-P $2,313
NME-XD-24ES-1S-P $3,075
NME-XD-48ES-2S-P $4,137
PVDM2-8 $240
PVDM2-16 $480
PVDM2-32 $960
PVDM2-48 $1,440
PVDM2-64 $1,920
VIC-4FXS/DID $480
VIC2-2E/M $240
VIC2-2FXO $240
VIC2-2FXS $240
VIC2-4FXO $480
VWIC2-1MFT-G703 $1,080
VWIC2-1MFT-T1/E1 $780
VWIC2-2MFT-G703 $1,800
VWIC2-2MFT-T1/E1 $1,200
WIC-1B-S/T-V3=3D $300
WIC-1B-U-V2 $420
WIC-1DSU-T1-V2 $600
WIC-1T $240
WIC-2T $420
Cisco Switch (NEW)
WS-CE500-24LC $777
WS-CE500-24PC $1,677
WS-CE500-24TT $477
WS-CE500G-12TC $1,173
WS-CE520-8PC-K9 $837
WS-C2960-8TC-L $537
WS-C2960-24TC-L $1,497
WS-C2960-24TT-L $777
WS-C2960-48TC-L $2,697
WS-C2960-48TT-L $1,497
WS-C2960G-8TC-L $837
WS-C2960G-24TC-L $1,977
WS-C2960G-48TC-L $3,597
WS-C3560-24PS-E $3,474
WS-C3560-24PS-S $2,277
WS-C3560-24TS-E $2,994
WS-C3560-24TS-S $1,797
WS-C3560-48PS-E $5,094
WS-C3560-48PS-S $3,897
WS-C3560-48TS-E $4,194
WS-C3560-48TS-S $2,997
WS-C3560E-24PD-S $4,077
WS-C3560E-24TD-S $3,597
WS-C3560E-48PD-S $8,097
WS-C3560E-48TD-S $7,197
WS-C3560G-24PS-E $5,754
WS-C3560G-24PS-S $3,357
WS-C3560G-24TS-E $5,274
WS-C3560G-24TS-S $2,877
WS-C3560G-48PS-E $8,094
WS-C3560G-48PS-S $5,697
WS-C3560G-48TS-E $7,194
WS-C3560G-48TS-S $4,797
WS-C3750-24FS-S $6,477
WS-C3750-24PS-E $4,074
WS-C3750-24PS-S $2,877
WS-C3750-24TS-E $3,594
WS-C3750-24TS-S $2,397
WS-C3750-48PS-E $6,294
WS-C3750-48PS-S $5,097
WS-C3750-48TS-E $5,394
WS-C3750-48TS-S $4,197
WS-C3750E-24PD-S $6,177
WS-C3750E-24TD-S $5,697
WS-C3750E-48TD-S $11,397
WS-C3750G-12S-E $7,194
WS-C3750G-12S-S $4,797
WS-C3750G-24PS-E $7,074
WS-C3750G-24PS-S $4,677
WS-C3750G-24T-E $5,994
WS-C3750G-24T-S $3,597
WS-C3750G-24TS-E $6,894
WS-C3750G-24TS-E1U $6,594
WS-C3750G-24TS-S $4,497
WS-C3750G-24TS-S1U $4,197
WS-C3750G-24WS-S50 $15,300
WS-C3750G-48PS-E $14,094
WS-C3750G-48PS-S $9,297
WS-C3750G-48TS-E $13,194
WS-C3750G-48TS-S $8,397
WS-C4503 $597
WS-C4506 $2,997
WS-C4507R $5,997
WS-C4510R $7,497
WS-C4948-E $8,697
WS-C4948-S $6,297
WS-C4948-10GE-E $12,897
WS-C4948-10GE-S $10,497
Cisco Switch Module (NEW)
CVR-X2-SFP=3D $117
GLC-LH-SM=3D $597
GLC-SX-MM=3D $300
GLC-ZX-SM=3D $2,397
GLC-T=3D $237
GLC-FE-100FX=3D $150
GLC-GE-100FX $150
WS-G5483 $237
WS-G5484 $300
WS-G5486 $597
WS-G5487 $2,397
WS-X4013+ $3,597
WS-X4013+TS $3,597
WS-X4013+10GE $7,197
WS-X4148-RJ $2,697
WS-X4148-RJ21 $2,697
WS-X4232-GB-RJ $2,697
WS-X4248-FE-SFP $4,197
WS-X4248-RJ45V $3,897
WS-X4418-GB $5,997
WS-X4424-GB-RJ45 $2,097
WS-X4448-GB-SFP $9,897
WS-X4506-GB-T $2,097
WS-X4515 $7,197
WS-X4516 $9,897
WS-X4516-10GE $11,997
WS-X4524-GB-RJ45V $2,697
WS-X4548-GB-RJ45 $3,297
WS-X4548-GB-RJ45V $4,497
WS-X4991 $120
X2-10GB-CX4 $360
X2-10GB-LR $2,400
X2-10GB-LX4 $1,797
X2-10GB-SR $1,800
Cisco FireWall (NEW)
ASA5500-SSL-10 $750
ASA5500-SSL-25 $1,857
ASA5500-SSL-50 $2,397
ASA5505-50-BUN-K9 $507
ASA5505-BUN-K9 $357
ASA5505-PWR-AC=3D $48
ASA5505-SEC-BUN-K9 $1,017
ASA5505-SEC-PL=3D $510
ASA5505-SSL10-K9 $1,257
ASA5505-SSL25-K9 $2,364
ASA5505-UL-BUN-K9 $597
ASA5510-BUN-K9 $2,097
ASA5510-AIP10-K9 $4,797
ASA5510-CSC10-K9 $4,317
ASA5510-CSC20-K9 $7,557
ASA5510-SEC-BUN-K9 $2,697
ASA5510-SEC-PL=3D $720
ASA5510-SSL50-K9 $4,497
ASA5510-SSL100-K9 $6,897
ASA5520-AIP10-K9 $7,497
ASA5520-AIP20-K9 $9,597
ASA5520-BUN-K9 $4,797
ASA5520-CSC10-K9 $6,717
ASA5540-AIP20-K9 $14,997
ASA5540-BUN-K9 $10,197
ASA-SSM-AIP-10-K9 $3,600
ASA-SSM-AIP-20-K9 $6,000
ASA-SSM-CSC-10-K9 $2,700
ASA-SSM-CSC-20-K9 $6,300
SSM-4GE=3D $3,000
PIX-1GE-66 $1,800
PIX-501-BUN-K9 $357
PIX-501-50-BUN-K9 $507
PIX-501-UL-BUN-K9 $597
PIX-506E-BUN-K9 $837
Cisco IP Phone (NEW)
CP-7911G=3D $135
CP-7911G-CH1 $225
CP-7912G-A $105
CP-7912G-CH1-A $195
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On +Aug 09, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:03:02PM -0400 I heard the voice of
> Tony Holmes, and lo! it spake thus:
> >
> > /usr/include/sys/types.h:164: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers
> > /usr/include/sys/types.h:260: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers
>
> I've seen that the last few times I built it (on RELENG_6 too, I
> think). Edit the config.h it builds and comment out the lines
> typedef'ing uid_t and gid_t, and it'll build. I haven't taken the
> time to figure out why it tries to define them itself...
Thank you!
php5-mysql doesn't suffer the same problem and it dawned on me to check there
after a nights rest :)
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Hi,
Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade
and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer
versions, how did things work out?
Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall
reinstall" commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies
too) or was there any other way?
I happened to be reading up on how pkgsrc packages are upgraded. And it
seemed to be sooo complicated. (See this link for some info:
http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_upgrade_packages). The ports system never
appeared so complicated to me, which is when it struck to inquire how
things were before portupgrade and other wonderful third party tools came
into place ...
Thanks,
Rakhesh
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade and
> other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer versions,
> how did things work out?
>
> Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall reinstall"
> commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies too) or was
> there any other way?
Along those lines, yes. I'm one of those administrators who does not
want something like portupgrade on his systems; I do not believe in
having two separate databases maintaining dependencies and what's
installed (portupgrade vs. base system pkg_* tools). Lots of people
love portupgrade, and that's great. But the number of times I have seen
reports of database corruption or "database sync mismatches"
(portupgrade thinks A, while pkg_* thinks B) is astounding.
There are script-based tools now such as Doug Barton's portmaster which
I haven't used or looked into yet, but the fact that they rely on the
stock base pkg_* tools is fantastic. Those are something I'm open to.
Anyways, opinions aside and to answer your question -- the procedure I
go through is something along these lines:
1. Update ports tree (cd /usr/ports && make update)
2. pkg_version -v and look for stuff that's reported outdated or
"Comparison failed" (likely the port relocated to another section)
3. Examine the CVS commit log for the port in question. A lot of the
time I'll find that the upgrade simply isn't worth it, so no harm
done in leaving it outdated.
4. Shut down services/daemons which might be affected by below steps.
5. pkg_delete port
6. cd /usr/ports/whatever && make clean
7. make config, make && make install
8. Make sure configuration file symlinks didn't get nuked.
9. Restart services/daemons.
10. Pay close attention to /var/log/all.log for quite some time. :-)
Every 4-6 months, I go through the below process. I'll also do this
when there's something "major" in the dependency tree which gets updated
that lots of things depend upon. The most common examples are gettext,
libiconv, libtool, and the automake/autoconf tools.
1. Do all of above steps
2. Make a backup of /usr/local (usually using rsync)
3. pkg_version or pkg_info and save a list of what's installed.
4. pkg_delete -a -f
5. rm -fr /usr/local/*
6. rm -fr /var/db/ports/*
7. Go through the process of manually:
cd /usr/ports/whatever
make clean
make config
Select applicable options pertaining to our setup
make && make install
Or for things I don't want to build (like perl and python):
pkg_add -r perl (or whatever)
8. Re-add symlinks for applicable configuration files, etc.
9. Restart services/daemons.
10. Pay close attention to /var/log/all.log for quite some time. :-)
...I think I got those right. I might be missing a step or two.
Note that we keep all of our configuration files in a directory called
/conf/ME and in /usr/local simply use symlinks. (Matt Dillon might be
grinning over /conf/ME, since it's a Best Internet-ism :) ). I don't
trust that all ports will "play nice" with existing configuration files
in /usr/local, and I have seen much evidence of this in the past (nuking
files without your knowledge, mainly. "Oh crap! It nuked our entire
configuration for the apache/mail/whatever server!!!").
In the case that I can't, I might ask on #bsdports, or mailing lists.
Hope this gives you some insight into the mind of one admin who prefers
to do things "the old way" rather than let automated tools try and
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade=
=20
> and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer=20
> versions, how did things work out?
>=20
> Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall=20
> reinstall" commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies=
=20
> too) or was there any other way?
Basically that, plus a lot of other manual steps that were always
somewhat hard to get exactly right but which more or less worked back
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the map. It was a simpler, more innocent age.
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Content preview: Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11,
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>> >> Just a question that struck
me today. Before there were the portupgrade >> and other tools for
upgrading installed applications to their newer >> versions,
how did things work out?
>> >> Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall
>> reinstall" commands (I wonder if these commands take care of
dependencies
>> too) or was there any other way? > > Basically that,
plus a lot of other
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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade
>> and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer
>> versions, how did things work out?
>>
>> Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall
>> reinstall" commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies
>> too) or was there any other way?
>
> Basically that, plus a lot of other manual steps that were always
> somewhat hard to get exactly right but which more or less worked back
> in the days when Gnomes lived in your garden and Java was a place on
> the map. It was a simpler, more innocent age.
There was pkg_version -c that printed a sequence of
cd /usr/ports/foo/bar
make
make deinstall
make install
make clean
or something like that. Whatever broke was fixed manually afterwards :-)
Oh, and there was no UPDATING in /usr/ports/ as well I think.
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 01:33:57AM -0700 I heard the voice of
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>
> I'm one of those administrators who does not want something like
> portupgrade on his systems; I do not believe in having two separate
> databases maintaining dependencies and what's installed (portupgrade
> vs. base system pkg_* tools). Lots of people love portupgrade, and
> that's great. But the number of times I have seen reports of
> database corruption or "database sync mismatches" (portupgrade
> thinks A, while pkg_* thinks B) is astounding.
I'm always a little surprised at statements like this...
portupgrade manages all the regular /var/db/pkg/*/* files just like
any other tool. It's got its db files, sure, but they're caches, not
alternate masters. I've never seen a "sync mismatch" (or rather, I
see them all the time, when portupgrade sees that the source is newer
than its cache and updates the cache).
I've seen them go wonky a time or two when I've upgrade bdb or
ruby-bdb, but so what? You blow 'em away and recreate them. I blow
'em away every time I upgrade ruby or ruby-bdb or bdb just out of GP
to head off potential troubles. With the growing number of installed
ports, rebuilding the pkgdb.db files takes a "long" time, but it's
what, a minute? Minute and a half?
There are certainly reasons to dislike portupgrade (like that it's
slow. Godawful long. Where's-War-And-Peace-I-need-something-to-read
slow. It's almost as slow as yum is on a machine twice as fast), but
I don't understand this one. The db's dont go wonky with any notable
regularity IME, and when they do you just rm 'em and move on. What's
the big deal?
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Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> Along those lines, yes. I'm one of those administrators who does not
> want something like portupgrade on his systems; I do not believe in
> having two separate databases maintaining dependencies and what's
> installed (portupgrade vs. base system pkg_* tools). Lots of people
> love portupgrade, and that's great. But the number of times I have seen
> reports of database corruption or "database sync mismatches"
> (portupgrade thinks A, while pkg_* thinks B) is astounding.
Actually, doesn't portupgrade use the same databases as the base tools? It
just creates other databases based on these existing ones, for faster
lookups etc, but they are expendable in case of problems afaik. Just
delete and it will get recreated again ... (I am new to all this, so I
could be wrong in some way I don't know; this is my understanding).
> There are script-based tools now such as Doug Barton's portmaster which
> I haven't used or looked into yet, but the fact that they rely on the
> stock base pkg_* tools is fantastic. Those are something I'm open to.
Afaik portmaster's beauty is that it doesn't have any dependencies like
portuprade does. Doesn't require ruby etc, so upgrades to them don't cause
problems like they could with portupgrade. (Again, haven't used
portmaster, so I don't know; this is my understanding).
> Anyways, opinions aside and to answer your question -- the procedure I
> go through is something along these lines:
>
> 1. Update ports tree (cd /usr/ports && make update)
> 2. pkg_version -v and look for stuff that's reported outdated or
> "Comparison failed" (likely the port relocated to another section)
> 3. Examine the CVS commit log for the port in question. A lot of the
> time I'll find that the upgrade simply isn't worth it, so no harm
> done in leaving it outdated.
> 4. Shut down services/daemons which might be affected by below steps.
> 5. pkg_delete port
> 6. cd /usr/ports/whatever && make clean
> 7. make config, make && make install
> 8. Make sure configuration file symlinks didn't get nuked.
> 9. Restart services/daemons.
> 10. Pay close attention to /var/log/all.log for quite some time. :-)
I see. In step 5, "pkg_delete port" wont work if port is required by
others right? So you delete those apps too? Could be a lot of stuff to
uninstall, right?
> Note that we keep all of our configuration files in a directory called
> /conf/ME and in /usr/local simply use symlinks. (Matt Dillon might be
> grinning over /conf/ME, since it's a Best Internet-ism :) ). I don't
> trust that all ports will "play nice" with existing configuration files
> in /usr/local, and I have seen much evidence of this in the past (nuking
> files without your knowledge, mainly. "Oh crap! It nuked our entire
> configuration for the apache/mail/whatever server!!!").
That's a smashing idea! Thanks for mentioning that here. :-)
What does the "ME" stand for in /conf/ME btw?
Thanks for sharing your traditional steps with here btw.
Regards,
Rakhesh
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INDEX build failed with errors:
Generating INDEX-5 - please wait..pkg_info: not found
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pkg_info: not found
"Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
"/a/erwin/tindex/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-71xx/../nvidia-driver/Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
"/a/erwin/tindex/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-96xx/../nvidia-driver/Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
Done.
make_index: jffnms-0.8.3_1: no entry for /usr/ports/databases/rrdtool10
Committers on the hook:
edwin lofi rafan sem
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:07:25PM +0000, Erwin Lansing wrote:
> INDEX build failed with errors:
> Generating INDEX-5 - please wait..pkg_info: not found
> pkg_info: not found
> pkg_info: not found
> "Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
> "/a/erwin/tindex/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-71xx/../nvidia-driver/Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
> "/a/erwin/tindex/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-96xx/../nvidia-driver/Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
> Done.
> make_index: jffnms-0.8.3_1: no entry for /usr/ports/databases/rrdtool10
Should be working fine by the next attempt.
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:55:23 +0530
wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla =E0=A4=86=E0=A4=B6=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B7 =
=E0=A4=B6=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=95=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=B2) wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> I'm trying to port a package on FreeBSD. The package depends on Python
> v.2.5 (which is not default on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE), and some python
> modules. Now, the problem is that dependent python modules are already
> installed in Python v2.4 PYTHON_SITELIBDIR directory. So when I
> execute "install" target for my port, "install" target of python
> modules (dependencies) are also invoked, and since they're already
> installed (but in a different PYTHON_SITELIBDIR), I get following
> error:
>=20
> -- begin error --
> =3D=3D=3D> Installing for py25-numeric-24.2
> =3D=3D=3D> py25-numeric-24.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python2.5 -
> found =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list
> =3D=3D=3D> Checking if math/py-numeric already installed
> =3D=3D=3D> An older version of math/py-numeric is already installed
> (py24-numeric-24.2) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install
> this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly.
> If you really wish to overwrite the old port of math/py-numeric
> without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER"
> in your environment or the "make install" command line.
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/math/py-numeric.
> -- end error --
>=20
> I've already set USE_PYTHON=3D2.5+ in my port's Makefile.
>=20
> Any ideas what should I do here ? Shall I wait for Python 2.5 to
> become default for FreeBSD.
>=20
> BtW, I'm trying to port Redhat Online Desktop[1] to FreeBSD.
>=20
> [1] http://developer.mugshot.org/wiki/Online_Desktop_Project
=E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=A4=E0=A5=87 =E0=A4=86=E0=A4=B6=
=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B7,
I know that this reply is a bit late, but the 20070730 entry of
current /usr/ports/UPDATING answers all your questions related to
parallel using of two Python versions.
Although I'm sure you've already noticed this yourself, I recollected
this unanswered mail.
(BTW, I think that freebsd-questions@ is a better list for questions
like this.)
As of Online Desktop, if you already have a working version ready for
testing, you might consider announcing on
freebsd-{gnome|x11|questions|ports}@.
Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87
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hi,
i've fbsd 62Rp7 installed.
i've updated my sys to use db46 (berkeley db), and set
WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB/etc accordingly in make.conf ...
current portupgrade complains:
** Port marked as IGNORE: mail/exim:
is marked as broken: WITH_BDB_VER must be either 1, 4, 41, 42, 43 or 44
fix seems trivial,
------------------------------
diff -ur eximORIG/Makefile exim/Makefile
--- eximORIG/Makefile Wed Aug 8 19:07:15 2007
+++ exim/Makefile Wed Aug 8 19:10:30 2007
@@ -347,8 +347,12 @@
DB_LIBS= -L${LOCALBASE}/lib -ldb-4.4
DB_INCLUDES= -I${LOCALBASE}/include/db44
LIB_DEPENDS+= db-4.4.0:${PORTSDIR}/databases/db44
+.elif (${WITH_BDB_VER} == 45)
+DB_LIBS= -L${LOCALBASE}/lib -ldb-4.5
+DB_INCLUDES= -I${LOCALBASE}/include/db45
+LIB_DEPENDS+= db-4.5.0:${PORTSDIR}/databases/db45
+.elif (${WITH_BDB_VER} == 46)
+DB_LIBS= -L${LOCALBASE}/lib -ldb-4.6
+DB_INCLUDES= -I${LOCALBASE}/include/db46
+LIB_DEPENDS+= db-4.6.0:${PORTSDIR}/databases/db46
.else
-BROKEN= WITH_BDB_VER must be either 1, 4, 41, 42, 43 or 44
+BROKEN= WITH_BDB_VER must be either 1, 4, 41, 42, 43,
44, 45 or 46
.endif
SEDLIST+= -e 's,XX_DB_LIBS_XX,${DB_LIBS},' \
-e 's,XX_DB_INCLUDES_XX,${DB_INCLUDES},'
------------------------------
thanks.
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:37:22AM +0200, Tobias Roth wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrad=
e=20
> >> and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer=20
> >> versions, how did things work out?
> >>
> >> Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall=20
> >> reinstall" commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependenc=
ies=20
> >> too) or was there any other way?
> >=20
> > Basically that, plus a lot of other manual steps that were always
> > somewhat hard to get exactly right but which more or less worked back
> > in the days when Gnomes lived in your garden and Java was a place on
> > the map. It was a simpler, more innocent age.
>=20
> There was pkg_version -c that printed a sequence of
>=20
> cd /usr/ports/foo/bar
> make
> make deinstall
> make install
> make clean
>=20
> or something like that. Whatever broke was fixed manually afterwards :-)
> Oh, and there was no UPDATING in /usr/ports/ as well I think.
Old-timers will tell you that pkg_version is a new-fangled invention,
and back in the day they had to slave for hours over a hot keyboard to
run all those make commands by hand :)
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:09:43PM +1000, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:07:25PM +0000, Erwin Lansing wrote:
> > INDEX build failed with errors:
> > Generating INDEX-5 - please wait..pkg_info: not found
> > pkg_info: not found
> > pkg_info: not found
> > "Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
> > "/a/erwin/tindex/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-71xx/../nvidia-driver/Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
> > "/a/erwin/tindex/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-96xx/../nvidia-driver/Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -qO x11-servers/xorg-server-snap 2>/dev/null" returned non-zero status
> > Done.
Can someone fix the pkg_info warnings too?
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snowcrash+freebsd wrote:
> hi,
>
> i've fbsd 62Rp7 installed.
>
> i've updated my sys to use db46 (berkeley db), and set
> WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB/etc accordingly in make.conf ...
>
> current portupgrade complains:
>
> ** Port marked as IGNORE: mail/exim:
> is marked as broken: WITH_BDB_VER must be either 1, 4, 41, 42, 43 or 44
>
> fix seems trivial,
Sounds great, just one point: I'd prefer seeing that exim would make use
of bsd.database.mk. I have Cc'ed maintainer (krion@).
Cheers,
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> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:37:22AM +0200, Tobias Roth wrote:
>> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade
>>>> and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer
>>>> versions, how did things work out?
>>>>
>>>> Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall
>>>> reinstall" commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies
>>>> too) or was there any other way?
>>>
>>> Basically that, plus a lot of other manual steps that were always
>>> somewhat hard to get exactly right but which more or less worked back
>>> in the days when Gnomes lived in your garden and Java was a place on
>>> the map. It was a simpler, more innocent age.
>>
>> There was pkg_version -c that printed a sequence of
>>
>> cd /usr/ports/foo/bar
>> make
>> make deinstall
>> make install
>> make clean
>>
>> or something like that. Whatever broke was fixed manually afterwards :-)
>> Oh, and there was no UPDATING in /usr/ports/ as well I think.
>
> Old-timers will tell you that pkg_version is a new-fangled invention,
> and back in the day they had to slave for hours over a hot keyboard to
> run all those make commands by hand :)
I see. That bad eh ... no pkg_version even! I guess then the only way was
to track cvs updates to see if anything of interest has been updated
recently and then upgrade it manually. :-/
I'm curious now -- how does portupgrade (that's the tool I know/ use so
I'll use that as an example) do its upgrading? I have seen that in case of
an upgrade in builds the newer version, uninstalls the previous one (even
though it might be required by other apps), and then installs the newer
version. How does it do that -- by some magic of its own or does it use
the usual ports commands etc?
Any place where I can get more info on these 3rd party tools? Not too
techie, but a bird's eye view of things ...
TIA,
Rakhesh
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 09:01:27PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>=20
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>=20
> >On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:37:22AM +0200, Tobias Roth wrote:
> >>Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >>>On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgra=
de
> >>>>and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer
> >>>>versions, how did things work out?
> >>>>
> >>>>Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall
> >>>>reinstall" commands (I wonder if these commands take care of=20
> >>>>dependencies
> >>>>too) or was there any other way?
> >>>
> >>>Basically that, plus a lot of other manual steps that were always
> >>>somewhat hard to get exactly right but which more or less worked back
> >>>in the days when Gnomes lived in your garden and Java was a place on
> >>>the map. It was a simpler, more innocent age.
> >>
> >>There was pkg_version -c that printed a sequence of
> >>
> >>cd /usr/ports/foo/bar
> >>make
> >>make deinstall
> >>make install
> >>make clean
> >>
> >>or something like that. Whatever broke was fixed manually afterwards :-)
> >>Oh, and there was no UPDATING in /usr/ports/ as well I think.
> >
> >Old-timers will tell you that pkg_version is a new-fangled invention,
> >and back in the day they had to slave for hours over a hot keyboard to
> >run all those make commands by hand :)
>=20
> I see. That bad eh ... no pkg_version even! I guess then the only way was=
=20
> to track cvs updates to see if anything of interest has been updated=20
> recently and then upgrade it manually. :-/
Pretty much. It more or less worked when the ports collection was
small, applications were mostly self-contained (few dependencies), and
updates were infrequent. Obviously that approach did not scale.
> I'm curious now -- how does portupgrade (that's the tool I know/ use so=
=20
> I'll use that as an example) do its upgrading? I have seen that in case o=
f=20
> an upgrade in builds the newer version, uninstalls the previous one (even=
=20
> though it might be required by other apps), and then installs the newer=
=20
> version. How does it do that -- by some magic of its own or does it use=
=20
> the usual ports commands etc?
At the core it uses the usual port commands, but there is a lot of
higher level logic around that to do things like planning and ordering
of upgrades and error recovery.
> Any place where I can get more info on these 3rd party tools? Not too=20
> techie, but a bird's eye view of things ...
Apart from the code itself I am not sure about this.
Kris
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hi,
> Sounds great, just one point: I'd prefer seeing that exim would make use
> of bsd.database.mk.
i /thought/ that use of WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB *is* 'making use of'
bsd.database.mk, wherein,
...
.if defined(WITH_BDB_VER)
. if ${WITH_BDB_VER} == 4
USE_BDB= 40
. elif ${WITH_BDB_VER} != 1
USE_BDB= ${WITH_BDB_VER}
. endif
.endif
_WANT_BDB_VER= ${USE_BDB}
...
but, changes in exim port may well be required for 'compliance'.
> I have Cc'ed maintainer (krion@).
thanks!
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snowcrash+freebsd wrote:
> hi,
>
>> Sounds great, just one point: I'd prefer seeing that exim would make use
>> of bsd.database.mk.
>
> i /thought/ that use of WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB *is* 'making use of'
> bsd.database.mk, wherein,
>
> ...
> .if defined(WITH_BDB_VER)
> . if ${WITH_BDB_VER} == 4
> USE_BDB= 40
> . elif ${WITH_BDB_VER} != 1
> USE_BDB= ${WITH_BDB_VER}
> . endif
> .endif
> _WANT_BDB_VER= ${USE_BDB}
Em... What I mean is that exim should rely on bsd.database.mk to choose
BDB version, if possible. This could be something like:
.if !defined(WITHOUT_BDB)
WITH_BDB_VER?= 46
USE_BDB= yes
.endif
DB_INCLUDES= -I${BDB_INCLUDE_DIR}
DB_LIBS= -L${LOCALBASE}/lib -l${BDB_LIB_NAME:R}
But I do not have some test with it, though... This way, exim will
automatically pick up with bsd.database.mk changes.
Just my $0.02 :-)
Cheers,
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On 8/11/07, snowcrash+freebsd <schneecrash+freebsd@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
>
> > Sounds great, just one point: I'd prefer seeing that exim would make use
> > of bsd.database.mk.
>
> i /thought/ that use of WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB *is* 'making use of'
> bsd.database.mk, wherein,
>
> ...
> .if defined(WITH_BDB_VER)
> . if ${WITH_BDB_VER} == 4
> USE_BDB= 40
> . elif ${WITH_BDB_VER} != 1
> USE_BDB= ${WITH_BDB_VER}
> . endif
> .endif
> _WANT_BDB_VER= ${USE_BDB}
> ...
>
> but, changes in exim port may well be required for 'compliance'.
>
> > I have Cc'ed maintainer (krion@).
>
Here's the correct code for BDB detection:
.if ${WITH_BDB_VER} == 1
DB_LIBS=
DB_INCLUDES=
SEDLIST+= -e 's,^(DBMLIB=),\# \1,'
.else
USE_BDB= 40+
INVALID_BDB_VER= 2 3
DB_LIBS= -L${BDB_LIB_DIR} -l${BDB_LIB_NAME}
DB_INCLUDES= -I${BDB_INCLUDE_DIR}
.endif
Scot
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> exim will automatically pick up with bsd.database.mk changes.
ah. got it.
thx!
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Hi,
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:37:18 -0500
>>>>> "Scot Hetzel" <swhetzel@gmail.com> said:
swhetzel> Here's the correct code for BDB detection:
swhetzel> USE_BDB= 40+
Why do you specify USE_BDB as 40+, explicitly? Since, it is defined
as 41+ in bsd.database.mk, I believe USE_BDB=yes is enough.
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> Hi,
>
> >>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:37:18 -0500
> >>>>> "Scot Hetzel" <swhetzel@gmail.com> said:
>
> swhetzel> Here's the correct code for BDB detection:
>
> swhetzel> USE_BDB= 40+
>
> Why do you specify USE_BDB as 40+, explicitly? Since, it is defined
> as 41+ in bsd.database.mk, I believe USE_BDB=yes is enough.
>
I believe when I made the change to bsd.database.mk, and then patched
all of the BDB using ports, I had put the lowest version that the port
supported into USE_BDB.
USE_BDB=yes would also work and allow the port to show a dependancy on
the default BDB version instead of the lowest BDB version. Also,
INVALID_BDB_VER takes care of excluding BDB versions that the port
doesn't work with.
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall reinstall"
> commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies too) or was
> there any other way?
I used pkg_version -c, which has now been removed. It spit out a
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Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> I'm curious now -- how does portupgrade (that's the tool I know/ use so
>> I'll use that as an example) do its upgrading? I have seen that in case of
>> an upgrade in builds the newer version, uninstalls the previous one (even
>> though it might be required by other apps), and then installs the newer
>> version. How does it do that -- by some magic of its own or does it use
>> the usual ports commands etc?
>
> At the core it uses the usual port commands, but there is a lot of
> higher level logic around that to do things like planning and ordering
> of upgrades and error recovery.
I see. And I suppose that's how it avoids having to uninstall all the
apps and then re-install them. Neat!
It really came to me as a shock that once upon a time (and even now, those
who prefer the old fashioned way) you had to actually uninstall all the
apps and then re-install. I began using FreeBSD with 6.2 and so had taken
portupgrade to be for granted. Then I happened to read a blog post by a
NetBSD developer on how he keeps updating applications through pkgsrc, and
from there I went to the NetBSD Wiki and their page on updating
applications, and both these articles talk about uninstalling all the apps
and then installing newer versions etc ... which is when it struck me that
FreeBSD doesn't seem to have a cumbersome process such as that.
Hats off to portupgrade and other such tools! :-)
Regards,
Rakhesh
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>>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:03:32 -0500
>>>>> "Scot Hetzel" <swhetzel@gmail.com> said:
swhetzel> I believe when I made the change to bsd.database.mk, and then patched
swhetzel> all of the BDB using ports, I had put the lowest version that the port
swhetzel> supported into USE_BDB.
swhetzel> USE_BDB=yes would also work and allow the port to show a dependancy on
swhetzel> the default BDB version instead of the lowest BDB version. Also,
swhetzel> INVALID_BDB_VER takes care of excluding BDB versions that the port
swhetzel> doesn't work with.
Yes, it is same as my understanding. So, I think a user doesn't
specify WITH_BSD_VER explicitly, exim will use db40, while other ports
which use bsd.database.mk use db41.
Sincerely,
--
Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan
ume@mahoroba.org ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org
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After a lot of frustration with 300+ seperate ports being installed when I try
to install xorg. I tried to create a xorg-base port. I say I tried to because I
took a lot of shortcuts and this is my first time doing a port, so dont get mad
at me and I dont know if you guys will find this useful but it shortens the xorg
installation time from ports considerably. (reduced X to less than 15 ports!)
The following file includes
x11/xorg-base
x11-drivers/xorg-video-drivers
x11-drivers/xorg-input-drivers
The video and input drivers allow the user to choose exactly which drivers to
install.
Most commonly found chipsets ati/nvidia/i810 and also generic vesa/vga are
selected by default in video drivers.
The keyboard, mouse, void drivers are selected by default in input drivers.
The xorg-base installs xorg-server, font-cursor-misc, font-misc-misc,
font-alias, xorg-video-drivers, xorg-input-drivers and optionally setxkbmap and
xauth
The stuff installed by xorg-base is enough to get an X screen up and running. I
tested this further by installing kde-base port(which installed some more xorg
ports but not so many) and everything seems to be working fine. Actually I see
no difference between when it installed 300 ports and now. setxkbmap and xauth
is required for setting keyboard mapping and changing identity, for example
becoming root to make changes on kdm from control center. Perhaps those could be
installed by default by the kde-base port? because kde uses them?
Perhaps there might be some things missing but I couldnt catch any yet...
Thanks,
Evren
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After a lot of frustration with 300+ seperate ports being installed when I try
to install xorg. I tried to create a xorg-base port. I say I tried to because I
took a lot of shortcuts and this is my first time doing a port, so dont get mad
at me and I dont know if you guys will find this useful but it shortens the xorg
installation time from ports considerably. (reduced X to less than 15 ports!)
The following file includes
x11/xorg-base
x11-drivers/xorg-video-drivers
x11-drivers/xorg-input-drivers
The video and input drivers allow the user to choose exactly which drivers to
install.
Most commonly found chipsets ati/nvidia/i810 and also generic vesa/vga are
selected by default in video drivers.
The keyboard, mouse, void drivers are selected by default in input drivers.
The xorg-base installs xorg-server, font-cursor-misc, font-misc-misc,
font-alias, xorg-video-drivers, xorg-input-drivers and optionally setxkbmap and
xauth
The stuff installed by xorg-base is enough to get an X screen up and running. I
tested this further by installing kde-base port(which installed some more xorg
ports but not so many) and everything seems to be working fine. Actually I see
no difference between when it installed 300 ports and now. setxkbmap and xauth
is required for setting keyboard mapping and changing identity, for example
becoming root to make changes on kdm from control center. Perhaps those could be
installed by default by the kde-base port? because kde uses them?
Perhaps there might be some things missing but I couldnt catch any yet...
Thanks,
Evren
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:51:41AM -0700, David Ericson Thiel wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> > Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall reinst=
all"=20
> > commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies too) or =
was=20
> > there any other way?
>=20
> I used pkg_version -c, which has now been removed. It spit out a
> shell script that did the relevant upgrade commands, but wasn't
> perfect. OpenBSD still has this option, and it's a perl script,
> so you can probably still use that one if you're allergic to
> portupgrade/portmaster.
It was removed because it was dangerous. You could still use it if
you choose, but as we're discussing it's an antiquated and obsoleted
not-really-upgrade method.
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> Hi,
>
> >>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:03:32 -0500
> >>>>> "Scot Hetzel" <swhetzel@gmail.com> said:
>
> swhetzel> I believe when I made the change to bsd.database.mk, and then
> patched
> swhetzel> all of the BDB using ports, I had put the lowest version that the
> port
> swhetzel> supported into USE_BDB.
>
> swhetzel> USE_BDB=yes would also work and allow the port to show a
> dependancy on
> swhetzel> the default BDB version instead of the lowest BDB version. Also,
> swhetzel> INVALID_BDB_VER takes care of excluding BDB versions that the port
> swhetzel> doesn't work with.
>
> Yes, it is same as my understanding. So, I think a user doesn't
> specify WITH_BSD_VER explicitly, exim will use db40, while other ports
> which use bsd.database.mk use db41.
>
That would be true, except that the exim port is setting WITH_BDB_VER?=1 to use the system BDB by default.
I have now fixed it so that the exim port doesn't need to set WITH_BDB_VER?=1 anymore. Instead setting either WITH_BDB or WITH_BDB_VER > 1 will make the port use Mk/bsd.database.mk to choose the version of BDB to use, otherwise it will default to the system BDB.
The updated patch is in PR 115427:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=115427
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 03:02:53PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
>> 5. pkg_delete port
>
> I see. In step 5, "pkg_delete port" wont work if port is required by others
> right? So you delete those apps too? Could be a lot of stuff to uninstall,
> right?
Absolutely correct. That might seem like a nightmare to most people,
but to me it's not. I suppose this is also why I avoid ports that have
too many dependencies (mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin, for example, is
starting to make me consider using dspam instead).
>> Note that we keep all of our configuration files in a directory called
>> /conf/ME and in /usr/local simply use symlinks. (Matt Dillon might be
>> grinning over /conf/ME, since it's a Best Internet-ism :) ). I don't
>> trust that all ports will "play nice" with existing configuration files
>> in /usr/local, and I have seen much evidence of this in the past (nuking
>> files without your knowledge, mainly. "Oh crap! It nuked our entire
>> configuration for the apache/mail/whatever server!!!").
>
> That's a smashing idea! Thanks for mentioning that here. :-)
>
> What does the "ME" stand for in /conf/ME btw?
"ME" stands for me, e.g. "myself". I guess it'd help if I explained how
it worked:
The /conf directory on all machines contained the configuration files
for itself as well as every other machine on the network. So for
shell01.whatever.com you'd find this in /conf:
/conf/ME --> /conf/shell01.whatever.com
/conf/mail01.whatever.com/
/conf/shell01.whatever.com/
/conf/shell02.whatever.com/
/conf/sql01.whatever.com/
/conf/test.whatever.com/
Each directory contained configuration files specific to that system.
During system install, either done automatically or manually (I forget),
the /conf directory on a machine is populated, and the ME symlink is
made. Then the script would populate /usr/local with symlinks, and I
believe also did a mkdir -p on directories. For example, if /conf/ME
contained:
etc/Muttrc
etc/apache22/httpd.conf
etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
etc/pine.conf
etc/sudoers
You'd find this in /usr/local:
etc/Muttrc --> /conf/ME/etc/Muttrc
etc/apache22/httpd.conf --> /conf/ME/etc/apache22/httpd.conf
etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf --> /conf/ME/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
etc/pine.conf --> /conf/ME/etc/pine.conf
etc/sudoers --> /conf/ME/etc/sudoers
I believe the reason each machine had a copy of all the other machines'
configs was in case one got munged on the repository server (or if you
needed to "roll back" and didn't make a backup of your changes, oops),
and/or if you wanted to change the "role" of a machine on the fly.
All of the packages/ports installed on all the machines were 100%
identical; that is, every machine, regardless of role, had the same
packages/ports installed.
> Thanks for sharing your traditional steps with here btw.
No problem. :-) You asked a good question, so hopefully you'll get
some good answers back.
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 05:42:30AM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> portupgrade manages all the regular /var/db/pkg/*/* files just like
> any other tool. It's got its db files, sure, but they're caches, not
> alternate masters. I've never seen a "sync mismatch" (or rather, I
> see them all the time, when portupgrade sees that the source is newer
> than its cache and updates the cache).
I'm aware it manages all of the "regular" /var/db/pkg files just like
the pkg_* tools do. It has to for it to play nice. But it also
maintains a separate database for (I think) versioning and dependency
matching. I've been told the reason it does this is "due to
shortcomings in /var/db/pkg or the pkg_* tools".
Also, if you use portupgrade, you pretty much HAVE to use it exclusively
for everything, e.g. you can't go mix-and-matching use of portupgrade
and the base pkg_* tools without there being some inconsistency induced
and thus "breaking" portupgrade. Am I correct?
> I blow 'em away every time I upgrade ruby or ruby-bdb or bdb just out
> of GP to head off potential troubles. With the growing number of
> installed ports, rebuilding the pkgdb.db files takes a "long" time,
> but it's what, a minute? Minute and a half?
I think you're referring to things like this:
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=367904+0+archive/2007/freebsd-ports/20070204.freebsd-ports
Where the only solution is to rm the pkgdb.db file and then run
pkgdb -u, correct?
> There are certainly reasons to dislike portupgrade (like that it's
> slow. Godawful long. Where's-War-And-Peace-I-need-something-to-read
> slow. It's almost as slow as yum is on a machine twice as fast), but
> I don't understand this one. The db's dont go wonky with any notable
> regularity IME, and when they do you just rm 'em and move on. What's
> the big deal?
If people use portupgrade, awesome. If it makes their lives easier,
great. I won't get religious about it if I'm helping someone with their
box and they say "Oh, btw, I use portupgrade". My response will be
"Alright cool." But if someone asks me "Why don't you use portupgrade"
I'm going to tell them why.
I see claims like the above ("you just nuke the db and move on. What's
the problem?") and I think "What the f***?". Removing a file and
ignoring the problem because the problem then goes away (until the next
time it happens...) makes me think of a Windows-like solution. "Reboot
the box and the problem goes away". IIS /REBOOTONERROR. No thanks.
When something breaks on my boxes, I want to know exactly why, and if
it's not due to my own fault, I want to either fix it myself + supply a
patch (if I'm capable of doing so), or report it and have it fixed.
The fact that portupgrade has existed since early 2001 and still
continues to have problems like the aforementioned is uncomfortable (in
my opinion). It's major enough that it doesn't instill confidence. If
it's a minor enough issue to you, then great, no harm done. But it's
not a minor issue to me.
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Subject: Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:33:22 -0700
Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 03:02:53PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> >> 5. pkg_delete port
> >
> > I see. In step 5, "pkg_delete port" wont work if port is required
> > by others right? So you delete those apps too? Could be a lot of
> > stuff to uninstall, right?
>
> Absolutely correct. That might seem like a nightmare to most people,
> but to me it's not.
It's not correct, "pkg_delete -f" can force the deletion. I would
manually upgrade a port like this:
cd /usr/ports/misc/foo
make ; do the build
pkg_info -qO misc/foo ; get old package name
pkg_create -b <old-package-name> ; backup existing package
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/foo stop ; stop the daemon if needed
pkg_delete -f <old-package-name> ; force removal
make install
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/foo start ; start the daemon if needed
make clean
rm <back-up package>
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> I have now fixed it so that the exim port doesn't need to set WITH_BDB_VER?=1 anymore. Instead setting either WITH_BDB or WITH_BDB_VER > 1 will make the port use Mk/bsd.database.mk to choose the version of BDB to use, otherwise it will default to the system BDB.
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> The updated patch is in PR 115427:
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> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=115427
great!
Thanks!
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This discussion is probably more appropriate to freebsd-x11.
Followups re-directed.
On 2007-Aug-11 21:28:13 +0300, Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@ispro.net> wrote:
>After a lot of frustration with 300+ seperate ports being installed when I=
=20
>try to install xorg. I tried to create a xorg-base port. I say I tried to=
=20
>because I took a lot of shortcuts and this is my first time doing a port,=
=20
>so dont get mad at me and I dont know if you guys will find this useful bu=
t=20
>it shortens the xorg installation time from ports considerably. (reduced X=
=20
>to less than 15 ports!)
The existing xorg meta-port is (virtually by definition) overkill
since a significant part of what it installs is unnecessary for any
installation. What is missing is documentation and tools to help
someone work out exactly what they need without having to install the
xorg meta-port. I believe that your xorg-base port is a worthwhile
step along the road but I'm not sure it's a complete solution.
>The video and input drivers allow the user to choose exactly which drivers=
=20
>to install.
The problem I see is that there's no guidance available to help
someone work out what options to choose. Unfortunately, X.org
documentation remains its weakest point and neither the X.org website
nor the FreeBSD pkg-descr files provide any assistance in this area.
Some of the drivers don't even have documentation explaining what they
support, what functionality they provide or how to configure them.
For probably 99% of users, keyboard and mouse are adequate on the
input side. Working out which video driver suits your chipset is more
problematic. Not all VIA chipsets are supported by the VIA driver -
some need the SAVAGE driver. How does J. Random User find out that he
needs the "i810" to support his 945GM chipset (and how does he work
out that he has a 945GM in the first place)? It would be nice if the
X.org project provided a tool that could probe your system and tell
you what driver was applicable. "X -configure" will do this but only
if you've installed all the drivers to start with.
>The stuff installed by xorg-base is enough to get an X screen up and=20
>running.
There doesn't appear to be either a display manager or startx
included. How do you start the X server?
And whilst there may be an X screen running, it's not really usable
without any X clients or window managers.
I'm not sure if the apropriate solution is:
1) OPTIONS entries to select a way to start X, a few common X clients and
some simple window managers (eg xinit, xdm, xterm, twm, fvwm)
2) A pkg-message reminding the user that they need to select X clients
and a window manager and some way to start X.
3) An updated X11 chapter in the Handbook.
> I tested this further by installing kde-base port(which installed=20
>some more xorg ports but not so many)
At least some of those additional xorg ports may belong in your
xorg-base port. Did you make a note of which ones it installed?
>now. setxkbmap and xauth is required for setting keyboard mapping and=20
>changing identity, for example becoming root to make changes on kdm from=
=20
>control center. Perhaps those could be installed by default by the kde-bas=
e=20
>port? because kde uses them?
I don't think I've needed setxkbmap for more than a decade, though I
do need xmodmap.
Either xhost or xauth are necessary if you are going to have X clients
running on a different system to your X server, or if you want to use
X when you've su(1)d after logging into X. xhost is probably pretty
much deprecated but I'd say xauth is pretty much essential for most
configurations.
BTW, there is a copy-and-paste error in xorg-video-drivers/Makefile -
"i128 driver" is repeated three times in OPTIONS.
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Peter Jeremy
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