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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 00:12:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234C016A404 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joelsgotmail@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C321913C4A6 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joelsgotmail@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so493035pye for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:12:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=bGhnRT2wKjNgA2CV2/OINwllcdQE7fjfsAAyyhVZDmwTwiQtTBiSd60RSmDHmAcYg8K1IF6pFEm0R5APqXJGDGiO5zhwP5DcD69x580kabBJOqPGg03mFGMhJxCpIanbqXkuTCmnMGJcAHFE3Ef6CXkbu1yofTuCRqqae+9jMJ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=A8E5AqMnLhzw7eLGbO+i8eGRyhEw/bNjHJLVwjh1BIaa6rSLkb8vENwrvZlDjDzJ91UNEov6wknKTr4dqSGbyNFSl9fVZd4Zudtk3X96vgQsYBizC2vOH+904WiHol11QQqUVsFl/DkSW2ulxfxVdVXbhu+X5VGPvrPNfc6AYJ0= Received: by 10.35.100.6 with SMTP id c6mr7883269pym.1172360745918; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from JoelsVISTAPC ( [68.183.172.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f45sm4112711pyh.2007.02.24.15.45.43; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:45:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Joel" To: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:45:28 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c7586d$de118c40$9a34a4c0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcdYbdgSfMidj5EDSU6ONgFSHNv0Ug== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: video/x-ms-asf-plugin for firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:12:01 -0000 Hey, I saw your post on a website asking about the missing Plugin for firefox. If you have the same problem I had, I found the answer at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Windows_Media_Player#Missing_plugin Follow Step 1.download the 3 files it talks about and then follow step 4 and copy em into the Mozilla/firefox/plugins directory. That did it for me.close and reopen firefox and see what happens. Good luck. Joel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 00:49:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE2816A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.krushelnitskiy@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F50B13C478 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.krushelnitskiy@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so946822nzh for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:49:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ONI+WUIhcL2jIcOLmr6K9LPAXQ2Lgp1HKTUIxjUGltQD4vpV7LbHWdcFuD2Go9Qvl6ysQV0wpvE3zVKevfZB1hzAsrvbkqDUq2PQZXcrghhhJyGN1LKHy8obePvVtenwVaqcGkrt6rYHzXXdAbUz5eXN9649NOE4JHpehFnA2NQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XPprML9GEO/fiV0J6DrkPOwwqze9RQ+3w0d8WpE1Km5wqmByJ2bit4hVkirxns55sKmHWTv1mUk2fE403Hc+2Knfpf9POE3DeD3bP4kYvs67cAAy8vW1nftnz638igonE4R01OWuN+sp2owshZUIOERfxhdkL30VhPAIQ52ehpw= Received: by 10.115.106.7 with SMTP id i7mr841369wam.1172362892410; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.171.12 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:21:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8f5844640702241621m47c49f3bt93d2439700270a05@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:21:32 -0500 From: "Richard Krushelnitskiy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Problems with mounting NFS share located on a Linux machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:49:25 -0000 Hi, I have a Linux machine which acts as a NFS server and I'm trying to mount the share on FreeBSD. While the mount command succeeds and I see no errors and Linux doesn't show anything unusual in the logs, when I try to list the files in the mounted directory, none show up. Doing 'df' on both machines reports the same size/usage/free numbers for the partition. I'm lost as to how to further analyze the problem. Contents of /etc/exports on the Linux system (galadriel): ------------------ # /etc/exports: NFS file systems being exported. See exports(5). /home 192.168.1.100(rw,sync) ------------------ [*] 192.168.1.100 refers to the FreeBSD machine (elrond). ------------------ root@elrond ~ # showmount -e galadriel Exports list on galadriel: /home elrond.rivendell.lan ------------------ root@elrond ~ 0# mount_nfs galadriel:/home /mnt/linux_home root@elrond ~ 0# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on [other FreeBSD mounts] galadriel:/home 10321208 131276 9665644 1% /mnt/linux_home ------------------ galadriel ~ # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on [other Linux mounts] /dev/hda8 10321208 131276 9665644 2% /home ------------------ galadriel ~ # tail /var/log/messages Feb 24 19:13:33 galadriel rpc.mountd: export request from 192.168.1.100 Feb 24 19:14:30 galadriel rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from elrond.rivendell.lan:670 for /home (/home) ------------------ Hope these outputs help :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 02:01:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E76016A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dakfreebsd@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B56813C4A3 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dakfreebsd@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so1342783wri for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:01:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Qk01YV3hydiYEduPzFtGqDz1q/Um8lhEnYKi83b+Nvs6fboVmit8AOiyWjva/JyJoMLgd+DXwpKXLW9ZKajVDrIT8upkYr5iPQbAtjaIhYapOaFPmaOL9K1PgMeRDiUGPu848U8aA5KlYitUTKB5VNbgzWTG21QsKdm3n1Likks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZXP3n7rK/OFIN4Z4H9+u1cst8JLTxk3VO7aPPHO0055V44ShgzwkaIE5d46zHItHajs6EYCVkjbwbQ7Eccc2EertDxTvFo1gAFduNQ4eixhXUJeTZTDY/EDARYheaFwh+dwR87u1G9iMx/QV8u7CygIh9Y2PBtMsgrQvu+VP2uM= Received: by 10.114.135.1 with SMTP id i1mr1620027wad.1172368859886; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.157.16 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:00:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5df74baa0702241800u34b7d908o55e1e8a5ba79b7bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:00:59 -0500 From: "DAK GHATIKACHALAM" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070224194832.42767.qmail@web27705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070224194832.42767.qmail@web27705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Fwd: Wireless card not being detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:01:01 -0000 I wonder why these fraudulent scam artists/spammers abusing our freebsd lists. They are in wrong place with wrong people. I am not buying your idea anyway. dude, you chose a wrong person. Thanks Dak ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: wale qazim Date: Feb 24, 2007 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Wireless card not being detected To: DAK GHATIKACHALAM Hello, I want to know if you can sent a Message by Bank Coded Fax or MT Series Swift. I am desperate in need of it as soon as possible, you can as well link me with someone who can do it.. In case you can, please send me mail through money_market@lycos.co.uk. Thank you Regards, Julio Munento ----- Original Message ---- From: DAK GHATIKACHALAM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, 19 February, 2007 3:56:56 AM Subject: Wireless card not being detected Hi Freebsd I have an issue with new card I need to make it work with freebsd, on /var/log/messages I get Feb 18 20:51:55 DAK kernel: pccard0: (manufacturer=3D0x0192, produc t=3D0x0710, function_type=3D6) at function 0 Feb 18 20:51:55 DAK kernel: pccard0: CIS info: Sierra Wireless, AC860, 3= G Net work Adapter, R1 For some reason I dont understand why I get unknown card error Does any one has idea Thanks Dak _______________________________________________ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ------------------------------ *Yahoo! Photos*=96 NEW, now offering a quality print servicefrom just 8p a photo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 02:59:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7393316A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr9.networksolutionsemail.com (omr9.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B9E13C442 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr9.mgt.hosting.dc2.netsol.com [10.49.6.72]) by omr9.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l1P2xBV5013947 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:59:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 8639 invoked by uid 78); 25 Feb 2007 02:59:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.15.200?) (racerx@makeworld.com@71.113.176.4) by ns-omr9.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2007 02:59:11 -0000 Message-ID: <45E0FB7C.9000708@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:59:08 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070215) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 OpenPGP: id=C01BC363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Qemu speed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:59:12 -0000 Is there anyway to speed this emulator up? -- Best regards, Chris Nothing is ever accomplished by a reasonable man. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 03:03:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F112616A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A576B13C474 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1P30eQ4052137; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1P30dCv052136; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:00:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:00:39 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20070225030039.GA52094@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070223181710.GA28856@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Marty Landman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: input/output error on hd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:03:04 -0000 On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:12:39PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Jerry, just on a couple of points: > > Me to Marty: > > > Does the above result mean that my boot sector is ok? > > > > I think maybe you might be getting some of your terminology shuffled > > around. Your boot sector is not at question here. It doesn't > > affect the ability to read the disk partition. > > I was talking about sector 0 on ad1. If the disk were bootable it would > be the 'boot sector', but it's not bootable. It still contains the DOS > partition table though. boot0cfg -v shows this info too. OK. Yes, he already worked on the sector 0 earlier. The DOS partition table is what is called the slice table in FreeBSD. That seems to be OK - as I noted. ////jerry > > > Secondly, it looks like the slice table - which is what fdisk mucks > > with - is OK. > > Luckily .. though with only one slice on the disk, easily recreatable. > > > What seems to be messed up is either the slice 1 label which contains > > the partition table. In fact, with one of your postings, it looked > > like it thinks it is slice 4, but I don't remember what you did to > > get that. > > Try 'fdisk ad0sY' where Y is any freebsd slice, and you'll get that (or > at least, I do on both my ad0 freebsd slices). Maybe fdisk should barf > or at least whinge rather than reporting the first sector of any slice > specified as if it were a sector 0 / MBR / boot sector? Probably should barf or make some other error message. Anyway, one shouldn't run fdisk on a slice, but on the device, so that accounts for the weird message I suppose. ////jerry > > > If none of this helps at all, then the problem is past the label and > > in to the filesystem structure itself. Then I think you are stuck with > > tracing superblocks as I pointed out before. That is going to take some > > study but it might work. > > Yep, it depends on how precious this data is, but no learning is wasted. > > Cheers, Ian > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 03:08:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E654416A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsder@allcaps.org) Received: from mail.allcaps.org (mail.allcaps.org [206.251.247.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F6413C441 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsder@allcaps.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (mail.allcaps.org [206.251.247.157]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137C1DA5D7 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:40:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:38:15 -0800 From: Andrew Lentvorski User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:08:17 -0000 Can we please get the FreeBSD torrent tracker and/or server back? I was sitting here staring at an FTP from ftp5.us.freebsd.org that was bouncing around between 200-250KB/s. Even switching over to ftp1.us.freebsd.org is only getting me around 450KB/s-and that is bouncing up and down (my upload is only showing 12.7KB/s, so it's not choking for lack of return ACK's). That's about 1/3 - 2/3 compared with even a lightly seeded Bittorrent cluster pulling a Linux ISO torrent. A Linux torrent will saturate my download somewhere north of 600KB/s and park it there until the ISO completes. For reference, the old FreeBSD torrent file, even *without* the FreeBSD tracker, operating solely from 10 old seeders, and the Azureus distrubuted hash table, is delivering almost the same download as ftp5.us.freebsd.org. And that's effectively an abandoned torrent. I have read some of the previous comments about using torrents, but the fact that the mirrors are clearly *not* as fast as a torrent cluster warrants some discussion. Thanks, -a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 03:17:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FBA16A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8592013C442 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so846838muf for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:17:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qiKiZbBVggqxynECcwpErIvnrOHIwDXJiXd6V7KHcu8WgR8/TDvdX+P98uTjA69YDI2uuEAP4M6uvL9pp7q/xdX2vnKPs9bysyotLwJnco28+AusiEC1Zf43jXjw4JHnVVD5ac7Epd0QLjl84r05KC4SFvizbCoJ73Sgi9Bx5lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fyJZjtzoFU/cyeANgI4SJ2RoSphvQdNaUdVvoHxoe24/g368A0UQ6P3fY7G6IiLXFZ0hiDLjotFeyqvdcHOmp+iFZNRmB2+wXgtGZL7otZdg9HdBjPpg2ez2iR+j2pQqaog9XkkbPhDLh4s0hScSrfreMyEU75CenYludeAeNOk= Received: by 10.82.148.7 with SMTP id v7mr1212350bud.1172373429500; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.1 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:17:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:17:09 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: racerx@makeworld.com In-Reply-To: <45E0FB7C.9000708@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E0FB7C.9000708@makeworld.com> Cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: Qemu speed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:17:13 -0000 On 24/02/07, Chris wrote: > Is there anyway to speed this emulator up? > Run kqemu? Do not use the soundcard? Do not try to run vist-um? -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 03:19:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10EB16A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBEE13C4A3 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1P3GsIZ052203; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:16:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1P3Gsxj052202; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:16:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:16:54 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Marty Landman Message-ID: <20070225031654.GA52167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070223054641.12DD316A41B@hub.freebsd.org> <70063950702230808h433f61cscfd1abe43b578292@mail.gmail.com> <20070223181710.GA28856@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <70063950702231413x2e232b1bg4942362c38a846a0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70063950702231413x2e232b1bg4942362c38a846a0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: input/output error on hd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:19:17 -0000 On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 05:13:37PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > On 2/23/07, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > > >I would go back to that bsdlabel ad1s1 and edit the 'a' partition > > > > Also changed the size and offset to match the 'c' partition. Looks like > progress here but still haven't gotten all the way to a mount as you can > see: > > > %sudo bsdlabel -e /dev/ad1s1 > # /dev/ad1s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 490223412 0 4.2BSD 0 0 > c: 490223412 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't > edit > ~ > ~ > ~ > /tmp/EdDk.YyKf4oHslF: 5 lines, 223 characters. > %sudo fsck /dev/ad1s1a > ** /dev/ad1s1a > > CANNOT READ BLK: 128 > CONTINUE? [yn] y > > THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, > 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, > /dev/ad1s1a: INCOMPLETE LABEL: type 4.2BSD fsize 0, frag 0, cpg 0, size > 490223412 > %sudo mount /dev/ad1s1a /hoss > mount: /dev/ad1s1a: Input/output error > %sudo fsck -y /dev/ad1s1 > fsck: Could not determine filesystem type > % Well, I think you are past any label problems now and on to the bad sectors and/or finding superbocks. Although I am not quite clear from above what resulted in the 'INCOMPLETE LABEL...' message. ////jerry > > > Marty From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 04:22:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC6716A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericstr@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6F413C441 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericstr@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so995441nzh for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:22:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mgyyLCAm4fEIGcWyfRw17aQw/6TkrZvzBFJOBaEdQSIrsugomPPtwABzveXiTZEB/mRkZkdTvYc9rDYg4gGkDYh/ekq2Ip2a2zar52M5HIBINwpDhMLslam1qZLtG+PgRLatmCRvrWnPBHcePA8dblAukuwbBfj2TSA8d4pBw2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mCqsZsj/8bx4D/enG1YmYP8SC93zEfVVRik1a0d1a9MmmqxhYwWae0bMgLflH85WW3sYQIcYmrJNwlWvOjWyPIoVGNqOozKU99Y6SbqfdCdkWhBAJj6SNsLKl4vYzhCucVbZ82AFZ4wM2llmaZviI/Oq55RF+Ap2UsVunnwwDzo= Received: by 10.115.76.1 with SMTP id d1mr212627wal.1172375733773; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.73.19 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:55:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <222613bb0702241955m5582948btc47e93090c0e0662@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:55:33 -0800 From: "Eric Stringer" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: dual monitors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:22:10 -0000 I've got FreeBSD 6.2 running with KDE 3.5 with an ATI 9700Pro card. I have my 37" LCD TV attached to the digital out, and my 17" lcd monitor attached to the analog out. In the console (not running X) it outputs the same thing to both TV and monitor, which is fine. However, when I get into KDE it only outputs to my 17" monitor. I really just want it to output to the TV, but dual monitors would be nice also. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 04:34:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8A216A405 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericstr@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A878113C46B for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericstr@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so998098nzh for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:34:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kQeLCv8ObMYoHtNknwcnjAlTTN0HnShD5wuQKhql5FSl2u3JAxjPqIHLXu0QjRghB8P/thPkhwQ7P0BsabflZG1FyGKXHW1twnuXp3XE09qumKO3akLArfGAIUT2fFw/ljYmvhUUkzeA/6oKU6qc/7qVKuFS+PzJOmPgZ4dbM54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XNazJgKzDTFlNiCTbmffLSQDxhCKDp+oP4B/56Sz/kQuGgffqUFLcTa1rGjglgdRLIaYYgs8AxzFhj8FNBV8V6M7wxq3S/IjxRzCbPjaCzByyPZm3sEZjAh4VMpoA478y9kvJ6qkjGq+ySKscdREtYN5OwdXE767Bfsi689KI/w= Received: by 10.114.127.1 with SMTP id z1mr1648068wac.1172378067447; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:34:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.73.19 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:34:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <222613bb0702242034j2eed6e4bw5a9e3390b30dc745@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:34:27 -0800 From: "Eric Stringer" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <222613bb0702241955m5582948btc47e93090c0e0662@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <222613bb0702241955m5582948btc47e93090c0e0662@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: dual monitors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:34:29 -0000 I've got FreeBSD 6.2 running with KDE 3.5 with an ATI 9700Pro card. I have my 37" LCD TV attached to the digital out, and my 17" lcd monitor attached to the analog out. In the console (not running X) it outputs the same thing to both TV and monitor, which is fine. However, when I get into KDE it only outputs to my 17" monitor. I really just want it to output to the TV, but dual monitors would be nice also. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Eric Oh yea forgot to post the xorg.xonf file, here it is. Also I have Xorg 6.9.0. Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 340 270 # mm ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "EPI" ModelName "EN-7100e" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0 VertRefresh 55.0 - 75.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize" # #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "DMAForXv" # [] #Option "PanelOff" # [] #Option "DDCMode" # [] #Option "MonitorLayout" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "MergedFB" # [] #Option "CRT2HSync" # [] #Option "CRT2VRefresh" # [] #Option "CRT2Position" # [] #Option "MetaModes" # [] #Option "MergedDPI" # [] #Option "MergedXinerama" # [] #Option "MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0" # [] #Option "MergedNonRectangular" # [] #Option "MergedMouseRestriction" # [] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # #Option "ColorTiling" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "RageTheatreCrystal" # #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # #Option "TunerType" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # #Option "RenderAccel" # [] #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "DynamicClocks" # [] #Option "BIOSHotkeys" # [] #Option "VGAAccess" # [] #Option "ReverseDDC" # [] #Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [] #Option "AccelMethod" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon R300 ND [Radeon 9700 Pro]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 05:10:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AABF16A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552C413C441 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9AD0E508E0; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:10:02 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070225051002.9AD0E508E0@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:10:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2007-02-04 - 2007-02-24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:10:03 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 7-Feb : Converting a system to RAID Want RAID? Here is how to convert an existing system to use RAID http://freebsddiary.org/raid-adding.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 05:40:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF13916A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B8313C428 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1P5etXO010626; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:40:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001901c7589f$56e067a0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Eric Stringer" , References: <222613bb0702241955m5582948btc47e93090c0e0662@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:39:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:40:55 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Re: dual monitors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:40:57 -0000 You probably need to ask on one of the xorg mailing lists since this is an X thing, not a FreeBSD thing. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Stringer" To: Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: dual monitors > I've got FreeBSD 6.2 running with KDE 3.5 with an ATI 9700Pro card. I have > my 37" LCD TV attached to the digital out, and my 17" lcd monitor attached > to the analog out. In the console (not running X) it outputs the same thing > to both TV and monitor, which is fine. However, when I get into KDE it only > outputs to my 17" monitor. I really just want it to output to the TV, but > dual monitors would be nice also. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Eric > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 05:57:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6236716A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1965E13C46B for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1P5vNIu010736; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:57:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Andrew Lentvorski" , References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:56:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:57:23 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:57:35 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Lentvorski" To: Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:38 PM Subject: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? > Can we please get the FreeBSD torrent tracker and/or server back? > > I was sitting here staring at an FTP from ftp5.us.freebsd.org that was > bouncing around between 200-250KB/s. Even switching over to > ftp1.us.freebsd.org is only getting me around 450KB/s-and that is > bouncing up and down (my upload is only showing 12.7KB/s, so it's not > choking for lack of return ACK's). > > That's about 1/3 - 2/3 compared with even a lightly seeded Bittorrent > cluster pulling a Linux ISO torrent. A Linux torrent will saturate my > download somewhere north of 600KB/s and park it there until the ISO > completes. > > For reference, the old FreeBSD torrent file, even *without* the FreeBSD > tracker, operating solely from 10 old seeders, and the Azureus > distrubuted hash table, is delivering almost the same download as > ftp5.us.freebsd.org. And that's effectively an abandoned torrent. > > I have read some of the previous comments about using torrents, but the > fact that the mirrors are clearly *not* as fast as a torrent cluster > warrants some discussion. > Nobody pays the mirrors for their bandwidth. They are hosting and paying for the bandwidth out of the goodness of their hearts. Nothing is stopping you from setting up your own torrent server on a big fast pipe that everyone else can use, and not pay you for. I don't know for sure how other ISP's do it but we definitely use bandwidth limitations on the servers we host, customers that pay a lot get a lot, customers that pay less get less, and the freebie servers get whatever is left over after the paying customers have had their fill. Trust me, the admins that run the mirrors -do know- how to give you your 600Kbps on an FTP transfer. The reason your not getting it, is because they are choosing not to give that out, for one or more of a host of reasons, some of which are undoubtedly related to how the pipe is being paid for. I would suspect if you examined the financing scheme used for the Linux download servers you would find that it is quite different than FreeBSD. There are quite a lot of Linux users out there who think nothing of paying $100 for a Linux distribution in a cardboard box that they could download for free from the same distributor. They are subsidizing all the other Linux users who are downloading Linux for free, and everyone in the Linux world seems to be perfectly happy with this. I used to get around 600Kbps from the old Walnut Creek CDROM server when I pulled down FreeBSD, via FTP, years ago. Routinely. And that server had an upper limit of something around 2-3000 users. But of course, Walnut Creek went out of business. FreeBSD isn't Linux, and this is one of the ways that it shows. I personally am very happy to trade a few hundred kbps on downloading an ISO that I do a couple of times a year, in exchange for having Red Ha.. I mean the FreeBSD Foundation suddenly announce that "FreeBSD Enterprise" is now a chargable item and you will have to download Fedor... I mean FreeBSD Lite, if you want your free operating system. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 06:29:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D912616A407 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78ED313C467 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 75184 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2007 06:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2007 06:02:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: t8b8XFEVM1lxZ0nJdrsDBEEZJ16vYVWCbmzIV5wI.TlRfx.rTEChvZM03xXbGmpr2w-- Message-ID: <45E12693.9050206@hier7.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:02:59 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org> <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:29:40 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Lentvorski" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:38 PM > Subject: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? > > >> Can we please get the FreeBSD torrent tracker and/or server back? >> >> (snip) >> > > Nobody pays the mirrors for their bandwidth. They are hosting and > paying for the bandwidth out of the goodness of their hearts. > > Nothing is stopping you from setting up your own torrent server on a big > fast > pipe that everyone else can use, and not pay you for. > > I don't know for sure how other ISP's do it but we definitely use > bandwidth limitations on the servers we host, customers that pay a lot > get a lot, customers that pay less get less, and the freebie servers > get whatever is left over after the paying customers have had their fill. > > (snip) > > I would suspect if you examined the financing scheme used for the Linux > download servers you would find that it is quite different than FreeBSD. But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 07:23:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B7016A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FAD13C428 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E317E8DB; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:23:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id btDRSPR8A60A; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA0B7E8B8; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:23:48 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-Id: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-49-807479312" From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:23:27 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:23:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-49-807479312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello, (sorry, don't know whether kernel problems should go to questions or hackers, or both).. This has been a long-standing problem of mine, but I always ignored it hoping it would go away on its own with a future 6.x release, but it remains... No matter whether I boot into safe mode or regular mode, with all kernel extensions disabled in /boot/loader.conf, I get the following panic late at boot of a fresh RELENG_6_2 kernel (with only a few services left to bring up). The 6.x kernels I've tried all build and installed cleanly without any errors... > WARNING: Device driver " > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0x400000 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 > stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 898 (kldload) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > uptime: 36s > cannot dump. No dump device defined > automatic reboot in 15 seconds This problem does not occur within any 5.x OS for me. I would certainly like to resolve this issue now, but this sort of debugging is over my head beyond running fsck (which I've tried). Any ideas here? Thanks in advance for your help! ----------- Joe Auty NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians http://www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org --Apple-Mail-49-807479312 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4TlvCgdfeCwsL5ERAu24AKCYwh3+1CLTOOF9pul+NKSvZwbZ8gCdHUzb rI2eeU5pVvIeARzxPFB8iu4= =f2ZW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-49-807479312-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 07:33:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D0316A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A94A13C461 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659497E8E0 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:33:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 040SVP15w6+m for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6C57E8DF for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:33:03 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8947BD31-E4B8-48E7-866D-5BFE3D827071@netmusician.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Questions From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:32:42 -0500 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: freebsd-hackers list dead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:33:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is the absence of the hackers list a known problem/reality at this point? Feb 25 02:23:51 netmusician postfix/smtp[17122]: 14E317E8DB: to=, relay=mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52]: 25, delay=0.91, delays=0.13/0.06/0.51/0.2, dsn=4.7.1, status=deferred (host mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 : Recipient address rejected: Service is unavailable (in reply to RCPT TO command)) I'm trying to report a kernel bug, and this list seemed like the most appropriate match in the list of available lists (http:// lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo). Is this not the most appropriate place to report such a bug? I've also reported it to this list just now, I hope this was appropriate... I'm happy to be routed to another list which might be better suited for my problem (subject: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS) Thanks! - ----------- Joe Auty NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians http://www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4TuaCgdfeCwsL5ERAkN9AJ9YAqlhv1zURRBD2maV6LC4U4EIUwCfbz5t FScxGgGtXWiJXPBvyslI2E8= =ott7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 07:46:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C2D16A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9592213C461 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1P7kJvZ066062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:46:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l1P7kJcv066061; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:46:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:46:19 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Joe Auty Message-ID: <20070225074618.GA71962@dan.emsphone.com> References: <8947BD31-E4B8-48E7-866D-5BFE3D827071@netmusician.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8947BD31-E4B8-48E7-866D-5BFE3D827071@netmusician.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: freebsd-hackers list dead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:46:35 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 25), Joe Auty said: > Is the absence of the hackers list a known problem/reality at this > point? > > Feb 25 02:23:51 netmusician postfix/smtp[17122]: 14E317E8DB: > to=, relay=mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52]: > 25, delay=0.91, delays=0.13/0.06/0.51/0.2, dsn=4.7.1, status=deferred > (host mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 hackers@freebsd.org>: Recipient address rejected: Service is > unavailable (in reply to RCPT TO command)) My guess is they're using some sort of greylisting but don't actually put that fact in the error message. Since it's a 4xx-class error, your server should retry it and it should get delivered then. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 07:59:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6939A16A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA6713C467 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB847E8D6; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:59:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ng1VSdCT7S5w; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA65D7E8BF; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:59:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20070225074618.GA71962@dan.emsphone.com> References: <8947BD31-E4B8-48E7-866D-5BFE3D827071@netmusician.org> <20070225074618.GA71962@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3BD4BE6E-EB48-4499-B567-C59B215B1065@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:58:58 -0500 To: Dan Nelson X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: freebsd-hackers list dead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:59:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:46 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Feb 25), Joe Auty said: >> Is the absence of the hackers list a known problem/reality at this >> point? >> >> Feb 25 02:23:51 netmusician postfix/smtp[17122]: 14E317E8DB: >> to=, relay=mx1.freebsd.org >> [69.147.83.52]: >> 25, delay=0.91, delays=0.13/0.06/0.51/0.2, dsn=4.7.1, status=deferred >> (host mx1.freebsd.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 > hackers@freebsd.org>: Recipient address rejected: Service is >> unavailable (in reply to RCPT TO command)) > > My guess is they're using some sort of greylisting but don't actually > put that fact in the error message. Since it's a 4xx-class error, > your > server should retry it and it should get delivered then. > It appears that you are right.... Strange, I've never seen a graylist work this way before... makes sense though, and I knew that a 450 meant my message was only deferred, but I don't think I've ever gotten a 450 from Questions.... Thanks for your help! - ----------- Joe Auty NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians http://www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4UHDCgdfeCwsL5ERArIaAKCWUWrWQ8X2G8QntZYX6JZ3SSQuIQCfSv7X a6n2O6dAJ1NRWFVdCzbmW/s= =OQqQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 08:03:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F59F16A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsder@allcaps.org) Received: from mail.allcaps.org (mail.allcaps.org [206.251.247.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED6213C4A7 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsder@allcaps.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (mail.allcaps.org [206.251.247.157]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E42DA5DB; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E14270.7010105@allcaps.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:01:52 -0800 From: Andrew Lentvorski User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org> <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chris@hier7.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:03:47 -0000 Chris Slothouber wrote: > But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to > *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs > involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client > receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? Yes, actually, it is. -a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 08:07:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC48916A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394A913C47E for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:07:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 38so724275huc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:07:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=L//xJ4RrYmD1v1fm1hTVc3ER76zms8v+GEh6ENZ+xufpn59Ckm1wQQsLw+jyxA+KIGVAFYDgfZD/Kj5JsCW2a2YUX+F29nrLkS4kWJeP+t5S3V9TsKet2cEYNLafG1LCbaREgVeIHNUcHXE0No+2D+AwGluY0P75H5kOb9HVDTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jrX+DiF0Y+3DaSRf3igtWJzO/i/+MbXYuVQBR6sd7fJwctADQMAeMEUqh/ur5OsIvaIWpfR0C7/iP3NffVVFV13uK/kXHWi168nykH8rwu7DiQc0V8fvGKqYRWmMlqfEJATXYfZ5V//mkbTEIDACMa7YIjVLle9I8HkqAaYundg= Received: by 10.78.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr26728huf.1172390877674; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.17.18 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:07:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:07:57 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "Andrew Lentvorski" In-Reply-To: <45E14270.7010105@allcaps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org> <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E14270.7010105@allcaps.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: chris@hier7.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:07:59 -0000 It would be a facinating experiment if a laaaarge group of Fbsd users at 1000s of hosts were recruited as supporters to the Fbsd Organization..to host some subset of critical files. It would be super neato if you could configure what you wished to donate via a tool that would populate your box with specific data. On 2/25/07, Andrew Lentvorski wrote: > > Chris Slothouber wrote: > > > But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to > > *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs > > involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client > > receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? > > Yes, actually, it is. > > -a > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 08:16:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E2216A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob_27_preston@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from web25004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24DBB13C471 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob_27_preston@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 60653 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Feb 2007 08:16:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=F87UeVrbg/KRelp5mkL+e8HBY+DAF4BO5yEubkVuvAZ+v8YlYXRW+/5wEBSC9/+XzK2gQKsbVLKB7xCPmpClHHEh6zonX4Pd0iaYb4i0ZRk+FL1gNYdTJu2YMhdr0Y5pFx79n/2vvD+rljy9xKeK7Qq3ni+5wQW+M/7ExjyxM/A=; X-YMail-OSG: lw2b6SMVM1m9LdnSloSWei4V6UclCB6Nx5xJQp3.LPRSs4YWg4312tL8OulW4blgRf99DqdoJiPCqhP_Drt8cHUER50XvwpPQi4gP51PTL0RWlOhzD4zlnQGWhkvDss_JYX1lUx_cHZK Received: from [83.67.67.49] by web25004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:16:27 GMT Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:16:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Davison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <931652.59682.qm@web25004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Automount : operation not permitted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:16:29 -0000 I'm unsing automount (amd) to mount to external drives. I'm getting the following error when trying to access the drives. /sun1: Operation not permitted. I've followed the example here: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200202/automounting.html which gives the following section on errors....... A. ERRORS Operation not permitted when mounting: one cannot mount a regular partition on top of another. Unmount the first partition before attempting to mount. Can anoyone please explain what this means in english ??? What is the first partition ? Its a sun storedge with two drives in it. One called /sun1, the other /sun2 --------------------------------- Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 08:24:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D8516A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B0A13C474 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so902231muf for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:24:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jnAcvstAS3ww8P5divm4RqY7iU8cV4F1RTo/hxyZbbBEYSVzycNcYbj205Uh8EDeba76UT0BfnYTPFp4MDFkGM2eVG4MQu/A8r4RHx3MhtgZY4m9it43YbGcBOX8xVQeCV64dgnw3wVZCn57YuRJOuGoQN74273uH7VdRTLEezg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cMa5J0pTHXG48RXXB/NQlgQHRH6scPe6NHlZ6JqMcqh9rjUGxI0KaMQU+zVQ+/qZaR3r8n7zhRL0nB05weeNOIZ36inTZ6wnaX/e8oMWWDsY8QX8IL3S1q/pa6FoAJ5cj0vxyIw1jhbKOekJepusBnTCmdSFNIF+xtCCBzk2O9I= Received: by 10.82.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr1224965bue.1172390395751; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.151.15 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:59:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:59:55 -0800 From: "Kip Macy" To: "Joe Auty" In-Reply-To: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:24:05 -0000 It looks as if you've hit a device driver that is trying to print out a null string. The message you've given doesn't provide any more information than that. If you install a snapshot kernel it will probably have ddb compiled in which will allow you to at least get a backtrace. I'm sorry you're having trouble. -Kip On 2/24/07, Joe Auty wrote: > Hello, > > (sorry, don't know whether kernel problems should go to questions or > hackers, or both).. > > This has been a long-standing problem of mine, but I always ignored > it hoping it would go away on its own with a future 6.x release, but > it remains... > > No matter whether I boot into safe mode or regular mode, with all > kernel extensions disabled in /boot/loader.conf, I get the following > panic late at boot of a fresh RELENG_6_2 kernel (with only a few > services left to bring up). The 6.x kernels I've tried all build and > installed cleanly without any errors... > > > > WARNING: Device driver " > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > fault virtual address = 0x400000 > > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 > > stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > > frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b > > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > > processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > > current process = 898 (kldload) > > trap number = 12 > > panic: page fault > > uptime: 36s > > cannot dump. No dump device defined > > automatic reboot in 15 seconds > > > This problem does not occur within any 5.x OS for me. I would > certainly like to resolve this issue now, but this sort of debugging > is over my head beyond running fsck (which I've tried). Any ideas here? > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > > > ----------- > Joe Auty > NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians > http://www.netmusician.org > joe@netmusician.org > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 08:29:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA9D16A404 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EB5B13C47E for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 80333 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2007 08:29:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2007 08:29:36 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OB0mdVsVM1m69_K66C7DIr1zmM.OfkE7HOGywcTYOd5Jt77jh5Ngm.BGQVuylFSzhg-- Message-ID: <45E148F1.2010207@hier7.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:29:37 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org> <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E14270.7010105@allcaps.org> In-Reply-To: <45E14270.7010105@allcaps.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:37 -0000 Andrew Lentvorski wrote: > Chris Slothouber wrote: > >> But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to >> *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs >> involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client >> receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? > > Yes, actually, it is. > > -a I think it would then serve the interests of the FreeBSD community to establish a long-term file distribution plan that includes a proven peer to peer system, like torrent. It really wouldn't take that much effort, and any bandwidth necessary for seeding, especially initial seeding, could be re-allocated out of what is already being used for direct downloads. Since torrent is a rather widely-accepted means of downloading and clients are available for pretty much every platform, it could become the primary vector for distributing large binaries (such as ISOs) that put a sustained burden on the donated mirrors. Direct downloads could still be offered for these files for compatibility's sake, albeit at a reduced rate, using shaping or whatever else. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 08:33:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03FE16A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F5B13C442 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123FBEB63C6; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:02:01 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lDkaHG9KXcFL; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:01:53 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.217.12.91] (sina152-194.staff.sina.com.cn [61.135.152.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21778EB299F; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:01:53 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=Nlfza+9qG4cGKjcrVOqnoRrv17XQFDygGNyTfIUgVq18Nn0I0q8N5qUrQdWhWIyp1 PIX2KIZ2eJ8Lrz7nF6efw== Message-ID: <45E1426E.3020707@delphij.net> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:01:50 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Auty References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> In-Reply-To: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA3FC2ED6029AD4B80BB42846" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:33:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA3FC2ED6029AD4B80BB42846 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Joe Auty wrote: > This problem does not occur within any 5.x OS for me. I would certainly= > like to resolve this issue now, but this sort of debugging is over my > head beyond running fsck (which I've tried). Any ideas here? Which .ko are you trying to load? try removing them and see if things changes? Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enigA3FC2ED6029AD4B80BB42846 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4UJuOfuToMruuMARCtrgAJ9DhemM888XLurruRvh8TCZeBSTOgCfVsZn 1HNtSBwxRf8QSLfuEp5wTHA= =tXE9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA3FC2ED6029AD4B80BB42846-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 08:52:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4056E16A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@radford-online.co.uk) Received: from smtp3.freeserve.com (smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk [193.252.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D162113C49D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@radford-online.co.uk) Received: from smtp3.freeserve.com (mwinf3209 [172.22.156.39]) by mwinf3205.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4767A5802170 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:29:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3209.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5EA3B9400088 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:29:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from odyssey (user-514dca58.l4.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk [81.77.202.88]) by mwinf3209.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 289409400086 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:29:45 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070225082945166.289409400086@mwinf3209.me.freeserve.com From: Philip Radford To: X-Mailer: PocoMail 4.1 (3650) - Licensed Version Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:44 GMT Message-ID: <200722582944.079368@odyssey> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Core 2 Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: philip@radford-online.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:52:31 -0000 Hi All, I am now in the= process of configuring two new freebsd boxes on which I plan to install the= 6.2 branch. Does anyone know if= and how I can tailor the configuration to make best use of core 2 duo= processors. One of the servers= has a 'Dual Core Intel=AE Xeon=AE 3040 Processor at 1.86GHz, 2MB L2 cache,= 1066MHz FSB' The second as a= 'Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA= 775' Any idea or thoughts= on this welcome. In the past on a P4= chip I would put pentium4 in the cputype parameter in /etc/make.conf but= are there any other settings here I can adjust or any by using= sysctl. A google search was= not productive. It would appear that= SMP is installed by default on the default 6.2 install. Regards Phil. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 09:10:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A9316A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474C013C474 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so942583wxc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:10:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jzzLeAyigIPRh/7R5/RGOc/7v3nKfMPJuUES5LMfTT0TSLznZ1xYCQg/EKEhHr+m1zmjsVtY+iCgmJRYjzfF+Eb4kNQkt+x76HwAXJIVC/KpJll/Z88OR3QudCVYjix6BBu2eZ8lObVXr35iKOAmDjeZrciUr9OMy7EXDqRE/50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lvtLduapwbQYymN54ox9wcFv5ydmIeOHPs01rD6CF25nEQ+pSaqQ5hT4s6riBiWKTPia/WdsdJBWxmTQnI6GpCaqRfC7y/NELL4jOIhBTLkfpjg6LKcU38besK4HuKlZXtLOiu6EPFAe3/0palxV88swI8C9NbCpZ0mq3gfLAMI= Received: by 10.115.108.1 with SMTP id k1mr506996wam.1172394630619; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.7 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:10:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <499c70c0702250110m6dbb46b6s3957cc79d794dc6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:10:30 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: philip@radford-online.co.uk In-Reply-To: <200722582944.079368@odyssey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200722582944.079368@odyssey> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Core 2 Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:10:31 -0000 On 2/25/07, Philip Radford wrote: > In the past on a P4 chip I would put pentium4 in the cputype > parameter in /etc/make.conf but are there any other settings here I > can adjust or any by using sysctl. I'm using CPUTYPE?=prescott amd it's safe, nocona broke my kernel. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 10:23:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAACE16A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C9113C441 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1HLGXH-0006HY-V6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: <00aa01c758c6$f8dadb90$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:23:20 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: Fw: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:23:25 -0000 my problem is that so many of my vm-pop3d processes get in that state that semi-frequently, we get locked out of downloading email. I kill all the vm-pop3d processes then we have to wait for all the FIN_WAIT_2 to die befor i can restart the vm-pop3d process. If I try to start vm-pop3d before all the FIN_WAIT_2 sockets die, I get a 'Can't bind to port" error. When I do the lsof thing it shows no files or processes connected to that port, or socket. -Grant > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian Walther" > To: "Grant Peel" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 > > >> On 24/02/07, Grant Peel wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just wondering if anyone has found / knows of a way to kill sockets that >>> are stuck in FIN_WIAT_2 state - without rebooting the server. >>> >>> When I kill the processes (in this case the pop3 server) that allows the >>> connection, it still takes about 3 hours for the socket to time out and >>> die. >> >> What is your problem with sockets being in this state? Normaly they >> don't consume any resources that would lead to performance problems. >> As you say, they die eventually. >> Sockets in this state are no problem, it's just that the client failed >> to sent the last ACK to the server, which would finally close the >> communication. >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 10:46:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC2816A406 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Danovitsch@vitsch.net) Received: from amsfep16-int.chello.nl (amsfep16-int.chello.nl [62.179.120.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1228213C467 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Danovitsch@vitsch.net) Received: from Tuinhuisje.Vitsch.net ([62.195.87.223]) by amsfep16-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20070225104628.FCIS27463.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@Tuinhuisje.Vitsch.net>; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:46:28 +0100 Received: from self (f187184.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.187.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by Tuinhuisje.Vitsch.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1PAkBm4008511; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:46:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Danovitsch@vitsch.net) From: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" Organization: Vitsch Electronics To: "Kip Macy" Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:46:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Joe Auty , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:46:31 -0000 On Sunday 25 February 2007 08:59, Kip Macy wrote: > It looks as if you've hit a device driver that is trying to print out > a null string. The message you've given doesn't provide any more > information than that. If you install a snapshot kernel it will > probably have ddb compiled in which will allow you to at least get a > backtrace. I'm sorry you're having trouble. Grepping the source tree on 6.2-RELEASE shows this message can only have com from one place : sys/kern/kern_conf.c in the function prep_cdevsw() : if (devsw->d_version != D_VERSION_01) { printf( "WARNING: Device driver \"%s\" has wrong version %s\n", devsw->d_name == NULL ? "???" : devsw->d_name, "and is disabled. Recompile KLD module."); Looks like the kernel and the modules are out of sync. > On 2/24/07, Joe Auty wrote: > > Hello, > > > > (sorry, don't know whether kernel problems should go to questions or > > hackers, or both).. > > > > This has been a long-standing problem of mine, but I always ignored > > it hoping it would go away on its own with a future 6.x release, but > > it remains... > > > > No matter whether I boot into safe mode or regular mode, with all > > kernel extensions disabled in /boot/loader.conf, I get the following > > panic late at boot of a fresh RELENG_6_2 kernel (with only a few > > services left to bring up). The 6.x kernels I've tried all build and > > installed cleanly without any errors... > > > > > WARNING: Device driver " > > > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > > fault virtual address = 0x400000 > > > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > > > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 > > > stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > > > frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > > > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b > > > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > > > processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > > > current process = 898 (kldload) > > > trap number = 12 > > > panic: page fault > > > uptime: 36s > > > cannot dump. No dump device defined > > > automatic reboot in 15 seconds > > > > This problem does not occur within any 5.x OS for me. I would > > certainly like to resolve this issue now, but this sort of debugging > > is over my head beyond running fsck (which I've tried). Any ideas here? > > > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------- > > Joe Auty > > NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians > > http://www.netmusician.org > > joe@netmusician.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Daan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 11:58:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C13116A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from curby.public@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DD013C494 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from curby.public@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1182459nfc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:58:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=iXCvon/pm7ALx9cCmFoNZ0ybP81zJZ1oj3QoXVJpOM2WvqMmm/fSXJ1HztiDO9LYm0/CvZ1dJo6x8eDfyp9QD36CE55Ir/qJ7x3iXRJpci943JOmrdWorKqIJjew+RgQX/MviLAgWYpCWt+Av4BnWHWsotrt5dycbMIjg+E35LU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=eGVfEyijaMh/3t0/I2c8k6/Bby70c8IA39YziIEF2s+cNrHcYc7vGHfDbizJYaGcWEJSBzigILq9ISem5as+YWMs6AdSiTCAfmiV896Ugx9UzDg+2h29TEc88LQOpObfyMhlc6tGXerlp8RcU0ixcxuJ5CNhs2HtL9eGsAYIU08= Received: by 10.78.201.2 with SMTP id y2mr344535huf.1172403193954; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.40.7 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:33:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d2f37910702250333u282334f4s2865ad3b50ef4042@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:33:13 -0700 From: Curby To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ipfw questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:58:15 -0000 I'm using IPFW2 on a Mac, but hopefully these questions are general enough for this list. First, is there any reason not to prefer "from any to any" over "from any to me" when adding rules to allow access to local services? Some ipfw configurations I've found use "from any to any," which doesn't seem bad except that it's unnecessarily general. Also, there's a verrevpath option but Apple's default ruleset still uses the following: deny log ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in deny log ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 in deny log ip from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in deny log tcp from any to 224.0.0.0/3 in Is it correct that verrevpath should make these redundant/obsolete? It'd be nice to have one rule instead of 4, but I'm wondering why Apple isn't using its own supported features. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 12:20:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5988016A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E3413C4B5 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so1045411wra for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:20:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=hKksXYtQEN6WheUEDbHtlcgdKwF+GNjMjAmY10FnNoKoL8T/j6+JSNxvUBcr0Dfq99duN3fomuW3cCwxD/C3/SUnKS0bDDRMTFplk8CZpb+yGnhTRx/v3dhXEn3dWmjrGq7yEIkvhT5dgq5SYUCcSs2R1ol+lnOfUxgU3Shx7hs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=augXSDDEjDrN8YfEPHkDg+NcmEWKjB8iOVl5CG4xdzWAVwueAhTntK6f/L3XAcQlOS/PgoPkq/GePPX9yz7I45d25jK2YaYfzriO6kALxLEVPv8wT3m+J4XxqKxVJMZarlMS8k5ETPr9gKxn/52DStSSNvBp47OHbkogHuMCZOQ= Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr1745114waf.1172406049199; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.201.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:20:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:20:49 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: Curby In-Reply-To: <5d2f37910702250333u282334f4s2865ad3b50ef4042@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5d2f37910702250333u282334f4s2865ad3b50ef4042@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e5993464392dd533 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:20:52 -0000 On 2/25/07, Curby wrote: > I'm using IPFW2 on a Mac, but hopefully these questions are general > enough for this list. ipfw@ might be more appropriate > First, is there any reason not to prefer "from any to any" over "from > any to me" when adding rules to allow access to local services? Some > ipfw configurations I've found use "from any to any," which doesn't > seem bad except that it's unnecessarily general. If you don't forward packets, then it's not very different, packets for "not me" are gonna get dropped anyway right after the firewall. > Also, there's a verrevpath option but Apple's default ruleset still > uses the following: > > deny log ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in > deny log ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 in > deny log ip from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in > deny log tcp from any to 224.0.0.0/3 in > > Is it correct that verrevpath should make these redundant/obsolete? > It'd be nice to have one rule instead of 4, but I'm wondering why > Apple isn't using its own supported features. Thanks! There are a lot of complicated/illegal configurations when verrevpath shoots you in the foot. Keeping rules simple and stupid will save you a lot of headache in the end. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 12:23:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221B716A404 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09A113C4B2 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from fl-71-54-28-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net ([71.54.28.212] helo=kt.weeeble.com) by pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1HLIPC-000155-00; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:23:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:23:03 -0500 From: Randy Pratt To: Chris Slothouber Message-Id: <20070225072303.1756c4a1.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <45E148F1.2010207@hier7.com> References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org> <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E14270.7010105@allcaps.org> <45E148F1.2010207@hier7.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:23:08 -0000 On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:29:37 -0500 Chris Slothouber wrote: > Andrew Lentvorski wrote: > > Chris Slothouber wrote: > > > >> But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to > >> *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs > >> involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client > >> receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? > > > > Yes, actually, it is. > > > > -a > > I think it would then serve the interests of the FreeBSD community to > establish a long-term file distribution plan that includes a proven peer > to peer system, like torrent. > > It really wouldn't take that much effort, and any bandwidth necessary > for seeding, especially initial seeding, could be re-allocated out of > what is already being used for direct downloads. > > Since torrent is a rather widely-accepted means of downloading and > clients are available for pretty much every platform, it could become > the primary vector for distributing large binaries (such as ISOs) that > put a sustained burden on the donated mirrors. > > Direct downloads could still be offered for these files for > compatibility's sake, albeit at a reduced rate, using shaping or > whatever else. I didn't even realize that torrents were no longer offered but its not too surprising. I would guess the reason to be that most FreeBSD users update their systems via cvsup/csup and never have any need for all the bits that are on the iso images. A fresh install is about the only time an iso image is useful. When its necessary to do a fresh install, I typically will get the boot-only image and install only the binaries. No sources, no ports tree, no docs since the iso image is outdated as soon as it was posted. The latest sources are then added to the system via cvsup/csup and built. I have 6.2-STABLE running on all systems but don't have any 6.x CDROM's. I used some 5.x version image to reinstall from 4.x in order to ease that transition point but normally reinstalls are unnecessary and avoided. Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 12:23:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E212416A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wanderingidea@casema.nl) Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl (cas-mta2-fe.casema.nl [83.80.1.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D4E13C46B for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wanderingidea@casema.nl) Received: from localhost (cas-filter5.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.118]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E28A4FB2 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:45:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.24]) by localhost (cas-filter5.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id 09543-07-5 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:45:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from bsdbox.cable.casema.nl (53563FBD.cable.casema.nl [83.86.63.189]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C12C4F9C for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:45:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:45:18 +0100 From: wanderingidea@casema.nl To: Message-ID: <20070225124518.732bb127@bsdbox.cable.casema.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Subject: Weather update plugin 0.6.0 fails to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:23:53 -0000 Hi, Since xfce 4.4 the weather plugin 0.6.0 fails to update weather data. Searching the weather location code also fails. Filling in Rotterdam should return NLXX0015 but nothing happens. So far I cannot find any information on this problem. Does anyone has this same problem or any ideas? Thanks, Cor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 13:11:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D579716A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) Received: from host.omnisec.de (host.omnisec.de [62.245.232.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5452F13C461 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) Received: from tek.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (tek.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.2.3]) by host.omnisec.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1PDAteC073884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:11:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) Received: from titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [IPv6:fec0::1:0:0:1:1]) by tek.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1PDAtex053834; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:10:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l1PDAs8b012173; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:10:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) From: Harald Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniSEC To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:10:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200722582944.079368@odyssey> <499c70c0702250110m6dbb46b6s3957cc79d794dc6f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <499c70c0702250110m6dbb46b6s3957cc79d794dc6f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702251410.54782.h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de> Cc: philip@radford-online.co.uk Subject: Re: Core 2 Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:11:02 -0000 Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2007 10:10 schrieb Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri: > On 2/25/07, Philip Radford wrote: > > In the past on a P4 chip I would put pentium4 in the cputype > > parameter in /etc/make.conf but are there any other settings here I > > can adjust or any by using sysctl. > > I'm using CPUTYPE?=3Dprescott amd it's safe, nocona broke my kernel. I'm no compiler expert, but prescott and nocona are Net-Burst architectures. Core(2) is a pentium-m successor, which was a completely different (x86)=20 architecture, so optimizations for netburst won't have a positive effect, i= f=20 they work at all. I use CPUTYPE?=3Dpentium-m, but I've never done any comparisions to binarie= s=20 compiled without CPUTYPE. After several years observation with CPUTYPE I=20 guess the improovement ist smaller than ever these days, and until now it w= as=20 rarely mesureable. =2DHarry =2D-=20 OmniSEC - UNIX und Windows Netzwerke - Sicher Harald Schmalzbauer =46lintsbacher Str. 3 80686 M=C3=BCnchen +49 (0) 89 18947781 +49 (0) 160 93860101 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 13:53:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E867E16A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teklimbu@wlink.com.np) Received: from smtp5.wlink.com.np (smtp5.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17FAB13C471 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teklimbu@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 61033 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2007 13:53:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.76) by 0 with SMTP; 25 Feb 2007 13:53:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 97190 invoked by uid 98); 25 Feb 2007 13:53:15 -0000 Received: from 202.79.36.216 by smtp1.wlink.com.np (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/2205. Clear:RC:1(202.79.36.216):. Processed in 0.029901 secs); 25 Feb 2007 13:53:15 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: teklimbu@wlink.com.np via smtp1.wlink.com.np X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(202.79.36.216):. Processed in 0.029901 secs) Received: from [202.79.36.216] (HELO teklimbu.wlink.com.np) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 25 Feb 2007 13:53:11 -0000 (Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:38:11 +0545) Received: from teklimbu.wlink.com.np ([202.79.36.216]) by teklimbu.wlink.com.np with smtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1HLJoL-0007f2-8n; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:38:09 +0545 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:38:04 +0545 From: Tek Bahadur Limbu To: Grant Peel Message-Id: <20070225193804.19bc9280.teklimbu@wlink.com.np> In-Reply-To: <00aa01c758c6$f8dadb90$6501a8c0@GRANT> References: <00aa01c758c6$f8dadb90$6501a8c0@GRANT> Organization: Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.4 / 7.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=0.4 required=7.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:53:24 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:23:20 -0500 "Grant Peel" wrote: > my problem is that so many of my vm-pop3d processes get in that > state that semi-frequently, we get locked out of downloading email. > > I kill all the vm-pop3d processes then we have to wait for all the > FIN_WAIT_2 to die befor i can restart the vm-pop3d process. > > If I try to start vm-pop3d before all the FIN_WAIT_2 sockets die, I > get a 'Can't bind to port" error. > > When I do the lsof thing it shows no files or processes connected to > that port, or socket. Hi Grant, I also seem to getting the same problem as yours except that my server is a Squid proxy running on FreeBSD 6.0. Using netstat -an | grep tcp | awk '{print $6}' | sort | uniq -c gives the following: 23 CLOSE_WAIT 9 CLOSING 3955 ESTABLISHED 3342 FIN_WAIT_1 2604 FIN_WAIT_2 49 LAST_ACK 15 LISTEN 16 SYN_SENT 148 TIME_WAIT Then I start to get the following in my squid logs: 2007/02/25 17:10:37| comm_open: socket failure: (55) No buffer space available I tried by setting the variable net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=0 but it didn't help that much. It is only after I stop Squid for about 20-30 seconds and restart it, will the number of connections start to drop. I think that the best way to tackle this problem is by using a firewall to rate-limit the number of connections per IP per time. > > -Grant > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christian Walther" > > To: "Grant Peel" > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:53 AM > > Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 > > > > > >> On 24/02/07, Grant Peel wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Just wondering if anyone has found / knows of a way to kill > >>> sockets that are stuck in FIN_WIAT_2 state - without rebooting > >>> the server. > >>> > >>> When I kill the processes (in this case the pop3 server) that > >>> allows the connection, it still takes about 3 hours for the > >>> socket to time out and die. > >> > >> What is your problem with sockets being in this state? Normaly they > >> don't consume any resources that would lead to performance > >> problems. As you say, they die eventually. > >> Sockets in this state are no problem, it's just that the client > >> failed to sent the last ACK to the server, which would finally > >> close the communication. > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > - -- With best regards and good wishes, Yours sincerely, Tek Bahadur Limbu (TAG/TDG Group) Jwl Systems Department Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. Jawalakhel, Nepal http://www.wlink.com.np -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF4ZTAVrOl+eVhOvYRAmWsAJ48mBKXDDYPIB+9Whgq2kl51JvIvACdHvR/ T73CpykghiHwlVZ4yCKxJE0= =UDbN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 14:13:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE3416A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oregnier@steelbox.org) Received: from 30.mail-out.ovh.net (30.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.62.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2035013C4B5 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oregnier@steelbox.org) Received: (qmail 17200 invoked by uid 503); 25 Feb 2007 14:13:32 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 25 Feb 2007 14:13:32 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail54.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 30.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2007 14:13:32 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2007 14:13:06 -0000 Received: from mac76-2-82-241-6-173.fbx.proxad.net (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (postmaster@steelbox.org@82.241.6.173) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2007 14:13:04 -0000 Message-ID: <45E19982.4080205@steelbox.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:13:22 +0100 From: Olivier Regnier User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 82.241.6.173 (mac76-2-82-241-6-173.fbx.proxad.net) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N Subject: freebsd/pf with pfstat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:13:18 -0000 hello, Im currently running on FreeBSD 6.2 with pf (packet filter). I installed pfstat that collects packet filter statistic and produces graphs. I added this line in my pf.conf and i restarted pf: set loginterface $int_if next step, i created pfstat.conf: # bandwidth = 1 hour collect 1 = interface "ndis0" pass bytes in ipv4 diff collect 2 = interface "ndis0" pass bytes in ipv4 diff image "/var/stats/pf/bytes_1hour.png { from 1 hours to now width 350 height 135 left graph 1 bps "in" "bits/s" color 0 192 0 filled right graph 2 bps "out" "bits/s" color 0 0 255 } i tested pfstat with this command in root: pfstat -q and nothing, my pfstat.log in /var directory is empty. I can't create graphs. Can you help me please ? Thank you :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 14:27:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9526A16A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC2F13C48D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CE59EF171; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:27:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id XK43oqHdjEQ5; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:26:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-50635cb6.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.92.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9729EF15E; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:26:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E19CAC.9030802@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:26:52 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: <45DED5B6.9020309@t-hosting.hu> <001201c757f0$2ba91fa0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <001201c757f0$2ba91fa0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Licensing question about GPL/LGPL binaries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:27:08 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt schrieb: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeffrey Goldberg" > To: "Kövesdán Gábor" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:02 AM > Subject: Re: Licensing question about GPL/LGPL binaries > > > >> [freebsd-emulation cut from cc] >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kövesdán Gábor wrote: >> >> >>> The question is that can we extract and provide these binaries in a >>> simple tar.gz file or is that considered a GPL/LGPL violation? The >>> sources are freely available on slackware.com, but we are not sure >>> doing so is legally correct. What do you think about this? >>> >> Gábor, >> >> What you plan to do is perfectly fine under the GPL as long as >> >> (1) What you distribute is under the GPL license >> (2) You let people know where they can freely get the source >> (3) You don't take credit for work that isn't yours. >> >> > > Jeffrey, > > Kovesdan is not modifying the binaries or the sources, thus there is no > need for him to GPL license his distribution - the files in his distribution > already carry their own GPL license. He just needs to include all of the > files, which by GPL requirement, are going to include a copies of the GPL > licenses that are applied to those files, as well as instructions as to > where > to get the sources. He does not need to further apply some kind > of 'overall' GPL license to his distribution. > > It's a similar issue as someone running an FTP server with GPL software > on it, they are merely serving as a venue for the distribution. > > It's a fine point to be sure, but an important one espically as the FSF is > aiming to have multiple, incompatible, versions of the GPL floating around. > > Ted > > Thanks for the answers to both of you. We just modify the packaging of the file: gzipped tarball instead of floppy images, so it will be fine to redistribute them with the pointer to the sources then. Regards, Gabor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 14:55:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58A916A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3DA13C481 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [10.0.0.178] ([10.0.0.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1PEtfK3031438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:55:43 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E1A360.8000103@unsane.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:55:28 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Krushelnitskiy References: <8f5844640702241621m47c49f3bt93d2439700270a05@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8f5844640702241621m47c49f3bt93d2439700270a05@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with mounting NFS share located on a Linux machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:55:38 -0000 Richard Krushelnitskiy wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Linux machine which acts as a NFS server and I'm trying to > mount the share on FreeBSD. While the mount command succeeds and I see > no errors and Linux doesn't show anything unusual in the logs, when I > try to list the files in the mounted directory, none show up. Doing > 'df' on both machines reports the same size/usage/free numbers for the > partition. I'm lost as to how to further analyze the problem. > > Contents of /etc/exports on the Linux system (galadriel): > ------------------ > # /etc/exports: NFS file systems being exported. See exports(5). > > /home 192.168.1.100(rw,sync) > ------------------ > > [*] 192.168.1.100 refers to the FreeBSD machine (elrond). > > ------------------ > root@elrond ~ # showmount -e galadriel > Exports list on galadriel: > /home elrond.rivendell.lan > ------------------ > root@elrond ~ 0# mount_nfs galadriel:/home /mnt/linux_home > root@elrond ~ 0# df > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > [other FreeBSD mounts] > galadriel:/home 10321208 131276 9665644 1% /mnt/linux_home > ------------------ > galadriel ~ # df > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > [other Linux mounts] > /dev/hda8 10321208 131276 9665644 2% /home > ------------------ > galadriel ~ # tail /var/log/messages > Feb 24 19:13:33 galadriel rpc.mountd: export request from 192.168.1.100 > Feb 24 19:14:30 galadriel rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from > elrond.rivendell.lan:670 for /home (/home) > ------------------ > > Hope these outputs help :) Just a guess but depending on the permissions of the directories, you may need to turn off 'root_squash' or set it to a user with read permissions, the linux man page for exports covers the linux syntax for this. Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 15:23:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7031016A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45F313C428 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-235-229.51-151.net24.it [151.51.229.235]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1PFUQiu008955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:30:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1PFNHfW069428 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:23:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <45E1A9DE.4040209@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:23:10 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070119) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: kernel debug messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:23:23 -0000 Hello. As I have already written to this list, several of my 6.2 servers are hanging very frequently. I've managed to turn on the following options on one of them: > options KDB > options DDB > options KDB_UNATTENDED > options INVARIANTS > options INVARIANT_SUPPORT > options WITNESS > options DEBUG_LOCKS > options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS > options DIAGNOSTIC I hope I can do that soon on the others too. In the meanwhile I have seen this in the log: > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: lock order reversal: > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: 1st 0xc6a37090 inp (divinp) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_divert.c:336 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: 2nd 0xc070a18c tcp (tcp) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw2.c:1982 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: kdb_backtrace(0,ffffffff,c06c8f10,c06cadb0,c0694084,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: witness_checkorder(c070a18c,9,c0665b07,7be) at witness_checkorder+0x578 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: _mtx_lock_flags(c070a18c,0,c0665b07,7be) at _mtx_lock_flags+0x78 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: check_uidgid(c6a890b0,6,c6507800,46c046c1,6e,...) at check_uidgid+0xdf > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: ipfw_chk(e6cc49f0,c6cfdb00,c6507800,0,0,...) at ipfw_chk+0xd74 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: ipfw_check_out(0,e6cc4ae8,c6507800,2,0) at ipfw_check_out+0xe0 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: pfil_run_hooks(c0709d40,e6cc4b5c,c6507800,2,0,...) at pfil_run_hooks+0xc9 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: ip_output(c6cfdb00,0,e6cc4b28,22,0,...) at ip_output+0x66a > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: div_output(c67a8000,c6cfdb00,c6b35be0,0,e6cc4c08,...) at div_output+0x185 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: div_send(c67a8000,0,c6cfdb00,c6b35be0,0,...) at div_send+0x3f > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: sosend(c67a8000,c6b35be0,e6cc4c3c,c6cfdb00,0,0,c657aa80) at sosend+0x5eb > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: kern_sendit(c657aa80,3,e6cc4cbc,0,0,0) at kern_sendit+0x104 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: sendit(c657aa80,3,e6cc4cbc,0,bfbdebc4,...) at sendit+0x163 > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: sendto(c657aa80,e6cc4d04) at sendto+0x4d > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: syscall(3b,3b,3b,2,34,...) at syscall+0x25b > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: --- syscall (133, FreeBSD ELF32, sendto), eip = 0x2812ef43, esp = 0xbfbdeafc, ebp = 0xbfbeeba8 --- > Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: ipfw: 65534 Deny TCP 192.168.0.3:52325 193.70.192.70:110 out via xl0 Any comments? I hope I can provide other, possibly more useful informations, in the near future. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 15:26:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5CC16A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390C913C48D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7611D0D96; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:26:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:26:47 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: vWMEhEmN2rmtL/LGVGPBLxMAOzoPgmp7EzqJbXzxS4Yo 1172417206 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C40D142D7; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:26:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <45E19CAC.9030802@FreeBSD.org> References: <45DED5B6.9020309@t-hosting.hu> <001201c757f0$2ba91fa0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E19CAC.9030802@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <38F5D843-7A25-4245-AA61-B1C168F539E5@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:26:43 -0600 To: Gabor Kovesdan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Licensing question about GPL/LGPL binaries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:26:49 -0000 On Feb 25, 2007, at 8:26 AM, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Thanks for the answers to both of you. Szivesen > We just modify the packaging of the file: gzipped tarball instead > of floppy images, so it will be fine to redistribute them with the > pointer to the sources then. Yes. As a shameless plug, there is an article about the GPL that appeared in Alaplap in 1994 titled "Van aki szabadon szereti" ("Some like it free") by me and translated from English to Hungarian by Horlai Janos. Unfortunately, I can't find the exact reference. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 15:38:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EA516A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martster@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3A413C49D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martster@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so81787nza for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m3gAHpeImKVNpoJFeIqonR8QAkHj0Ig2NwUnD35zqnqPHDlhXXkuyCLvaiEKUXyYruvRYvIh9JwcTZ1GumyuD76vqmyBw9RsBsPKKGBHHPrhd57HxYwOiTg+Bn10s9Kka1cYA0hr4NDOAt87KT58pz7stkmr3rQGRyzP/TUlzWU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Two5CByaz2wIv3fXGbUSVFQsr+k08hrdMzcJsbFAKMyABFrffvuzrmOU4lrENzLFyNlni9TZpARvpLMWvFi+Jkq6o0jUk99ykRWxNFNQxMcT4kSi6roOphyeV3ys68HQ+MAPmtGSlHKQBUqbNwLEgl4Ek8EPdqwGS3RtPgQC1KY= Received: by 10.115.107.1 with SMTP id j1mr339788wam.1172417881548; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.132.1 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <70063950702250738ka0abacane526a73bc46eb5ce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:38:01 -0500 From: "Marty Landman" To: "Jerry McAllister" In-Reply-To: <20070225031654.GA52167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070223054641.12DD316A41B@hub.freebsd.org> <70063950702230808h433f61cscfd1abe43b578292@mail.gmail.com> <20070223181710.GA28856@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <70063950702231413x2e232b1bg4942362c38a846a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070225031654.GA52167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ian Smith Subject: Re: input/output error on hd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:38:09 -0000 On 2/24/07, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > Well, I think you are past any label problems now and on to the > bad sectors and/or finding superbocks. Although I am not quite clear > from above what resulted in the 'INCOMPLETE LABEL...' message. Ok then, can you point me to somewhere that can learn about superblocks and give me an idea of what to do next? Also assuming my bad sectors really are totally bad, wouldn't fsck allow me to mark them as unusable and move on? Marty -- Web Installed Formmail - http://face2interface.com/formINSTal/ Webmaster's BBS - http://bbs.face2interface.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 16:09:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94CE16A402 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3C813C491 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3263F7E8CA; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:09:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1bJfeP8CmUSj; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BD37E8C3; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:09:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <45E1426E.3020707@delphij.net> References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> <45E1426E.3020707@delphij.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9065D414-28B5-4C15-9F63-AD8DBF13B051@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:08:50 -0500 To: LI Xin X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:09:24 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 25, 2007, at 3:01 AM, LI Xin wrote: > Hi, > > Joe Auty wrote: >> This problem does not occur within any 5.x OS for me. I would >> certainly >> like to resolve this issue now, but this sort of debugging is over my >> head beyond running fsck (which I've tried). Any ideas here? > > Which .ko are you trying to load? try removing them and see if things > changes? > I've disabled all third party modules (this happens when I boot in safe mode too). The modules that are being loaded are whatever modules are installed after a: make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconfig make installkernel KERNCONF=myconfig Does this reveal anything useful? - ----------- Joe Auty NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians http://www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4bSSCgdfeCwsL5ERAmi0AKCKu0DwEP1JtUuAkhj5O85sKDYlqwCeOWbz NQvULu8I/0B/EBesXo+mtjQ= =S3Mo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 16:16:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CA216A401; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA3B13C47E; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6FF7E8D4; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:16:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id szno-v4xnvzq; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFD47E8B8; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:16:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <366266A7-38D4-429B-850E-5DDCE9F22F8D@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:16:11 -0500 To: Kip Macy X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:16:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Kip, I'd gladly try a snapshot kernel, but I'm not sure which one to pick out of this list: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/6.2-RELEASE/kernels Any suggestions? On Feb 25, 2007, at 2:59 AM, Kip Macy wrote: > It looks as if you've hit a device driver that is trying to print out > a null string. The message you've given doesn't provide any more > information than that. If you install a snapshot kernel it will > probably have ddb compiled in which will allow you to at least get a > backtrace. I'm sorry you're having trouble. > > -Kip > > > > > On 2/24/07, Joe Auty wrote: >> Hello, >> >> (sorry, don't know whether kernel problems should go to questions or >> hackers, or both).. >> >> This has been a long-standing problem of mine, but I always ignored >> it hoping it would go away on its own with a future 6.x release, but >> it remains... >> >> No matter whether I boot into safe mode or regular mode, with all >> kernel extensions disabled in /boot/loader.conf, I get the following >> panic late at boot of a fresh RELENG_6_2 kernel (with only a few >> services left to bring up). The 6.x kernels I've tried all build and >> installed cleanly without any errors... >> >> >> > WARNING: Device driver " >> > >> > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> > fault virtual address = 0x400000 >> > fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 >> > stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c >> > frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c >> > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b >> > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> > processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> > current process = 898 (kldload) >> > trap number = 12 >> > panic: page fault >> > uptime: 36s >> > cannot dump. No dump device defined >> > automatic reboot in 15 seconds >> >> >> This problem does not occur within any 5.x OS for me. I would >> certainly like to resolve this issue now, but this sort of debugging >> is over my head beyond running fsck (which I've tried). Any ideas >> here? >> >> Thanks in advance for your help! >> >> >> >> >> >> ----------- >> Joe Auty >> NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians >> http://www.netmusician.org >> joe@netmusician.org >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4bZMCgdfeCwsL5ERAv0zAJ4zRjih+XoXGjF8Bc4hd2Yj7I0WNQCfeEb5 5mLoo1jTuYnJpa2z1EJqbUY= =Jwsg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 16:40:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F392916A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.krushelnitskiy@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16D813C467 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.krushelnitskiy@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so1146834wra for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:40:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kHvlugytsJ2Nkl9wBhNL5kDv4Z1xELELE1LPuk6+3rQ6nIV3YWNLaa92CGEjTwlPheAsPtETWOyVzfUi6p/rIla3bc1YnOYLw+lWwpDHq6whGGf6KgGwQGGowyxQ5uHR1OaqFn/8hfcNhIqWh9e8oKmJJCzEoUjaPIdk2YXalk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l1TCGBwUvhX20obZeNnaZ5i9IbLWI6tc2WuO8LtAuRHOLeuKD3lntkIx827OH22uNdshonWK1l5N9Vj/W8f6YBCi8NJx1Ky+SWKE5N4jhBOpEXiAJlqG3mzHSFL2P4rr6U6av0cNWyNACOrpkss9qgOv+jWDZrIHMEiw2Xeb2aI= Received: by 10.115.106.7 with SMTP id i7mr352220wam.1172421633152; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.171.12 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:40:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8f5844640702250840q621ba8eft545b07554210bb00@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:40:33 -0500 From: "Richard Krushelnitskiy" To: Vince In-Reply-To: <45E1A360.8000103@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8f5844640702241621m47c49f3bt93d2439700270a05@mail.gmail.com> <45E1A360.8000103@unsane.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with mounting NFS share located on a Linux machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:40:36 -0000 On 2/25/07, Vince wrote: > Just a guess but depending on the permissions of the directories, you > may need to turn off 'root_squash' or set it to a user with read > permissions, the linux man page for exports covers the linux syntax for > this. > > Vince > Thanks for the response. I revised /etc/exports to include options (all_squash, anonuid=1000, anongid=1000), which from my understanding should map all users to the given UID and GID. Still the same story, though; mounts just fine, but no files even though I know for sure there's a folder chowned to 1000:1000. Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 18:23:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD86416A405 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C5013C467 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1PILQm4054943; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:21:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1PILQxv054942; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:21:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:21:26 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Marty Landman Message-ID: <20070225182126.GA54901@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070223054641.12DD316A41B@hub.freebsd.org> <70063950702230808h433f61cscfd1abe43b578292@mail.gmail.com> <20070223181710.GA28856@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <70063950702231413x2e232b1bg4942362c38a846a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070225031654.GA52167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <70063950702250738ka0abacane526a73bc46eb5ce@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70063950702250738ka0abacane526a73bc46eb5ce@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ian Smith Subject: Re: input/output error on hd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:23:51 -0000 On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:01AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > On 2/24/07, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > > >Well, I think you are past any label problems now and on to the > >bad sectors and/or finding superbocks. Although I am not quite clear > >from above what resulted in the 'INCOMPLETE LABEL...' message. > > > Ok then, can you point me to somewhere that can learn about superblocks and > give me an idea of what to do next? Most of what I figured out several years ago (and have essentially forgotten since) came from the handbook and something I found by searching the web that gave the layout of blocks and chains. I would have to go back searching again. > Also assuming my bad sectors really are > totally bad, wouldn't fsck allow me to mark them as unusable and move on? No, fsck does not do that. Marking blocks bad happend below the level of the OS - generally in the disk controller itself. It remaps sectors until it runs out of spares and when it runs out, it starts reporting unrecoverable errors. This is not even reported to the OS until it runs out of spares. The only thing you can do with those bad sectors is to try and figure out if any of them are superblocks. If they are, you can probably rebuild it from other superblock clones. If it is not, it is probably lost data. In that case try to overwrite the bad sector. If that works, then the sector itself is OK, but the data that was there is gone. If it doesn't work, then it is bad and there is a good chance that more than data got nuked in the power failure - eg, it damaged the disk or controller in some way. But, the next thing seems to be learning about how to follow the file chains and how to find and read and write superblocks. Alternatively you can decide it isn't worth the effort to recover and try and write over the drive completely - just totally trash it - and see if those bad sectors will write. If you did that, then you would have to rebuild the slice and partition table and do a newfs before you could again use the drive and everything previously on it would be lost. Good luck. Maybe someone who has some experience in tracking file chains can respond and give you more helpp than can I. ////jerry > > Marty > > -- > Web Installed Formmail - http://face2interface.com/formINSTal/ > Webmaster's BBS - http://bbs.face2interface.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 18:43:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7A016A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B0B13C4AC for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 20651 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2007 18:43:19 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Feb 2007 18:43:19 -0000 Received: from Lowell-Desk.localdomain (Lowell-Desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1186C28423; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by Lowell-Desk.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C7D271CCA7; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:43:15 -0500 (EST) To: "subbu ramanN" References: <1a61db890702230358p4e755a9dm87f787261880b0a5@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:43:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1a61db890702230358p4e755a9dm87f787261880b0a5@mail.gmail.com> (subbu ramanN's message of "Fri\, 23 Feb 2007 17\:28\:45 +0530") Message-ID: <44zm72dqnw.fsf@Lowell-Desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reg. Third party Software installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:43:19 -0000 "subbu ramanN" writes: > I am subburaman from bangalore.I am having FreeBsd OS.Now i > want to install the google earth software.I have downloaded googleearth.bin > file.How can i install ? Kindly give me the guidlines. Installing third-party software is best done through the FreeBSD ports system. There is a section on this in the FreeBSD Handbook, (e.g., my copy at http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html) and also the standard manual: "man ports". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 18:58:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E107516A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51112.mail.yahoo.com (web51112.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D14B13C48E for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 13454 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Feb 2007 18:58:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ZSwJtg/SeuZh1fh6OaKinfIQ7YDeSSksnNeOShmN88zo7LwvbebW/XZ6F6DxD6pg9vhi1lMaCTH18w8hB4bhPJmolMWTDRHcsK8I2vS3LD6H+D18cvsk/U/stcrzFvFV/MQlpRwbmvh5qUmfDN1oJ28lQHSlVD9TfbfGSp10C+k=; X-YMail-OSG: geu1mogVM1kCwzBm48GOTafgheC0bF6S4njiZLh0Y8U5DpBQfuqM2XqYMQI2KgoF5vrsztpofwHnteBqvOxJHemD.WFNW377fLVVEj4U.G3gO9XhK50xt6zizxMJc_U8_08iEPiKojspG9I- Received: from [82.170.181.144] by web51112.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:58:10 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.8 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:58:10 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: gnome@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <476461.12137.qm@web51112.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: problem building g-wrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:58:12 -0000 Hi folks,=0A=0AI'm experiencing problems when building g-wrap on my amd64 s= ystem running freebsd 6.1 after I try to install gnucash2. 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=3D 1=0Aconfigure: failed program was:=0A| /= * confdefs.h. */=0A| =0A| #define PACKAGE_NAME ""=0A| #define PACKAGE_TARN= AME ""=0A| #define PACKAGE_VERSION ""=0A| #define PACKAGE_STRING ""=0A| #de= fine PACKAGE_BUGREPORT ""=0A| #define GW_CORE_RUNTIME_INTERFACE_MAJOR_VER 0= =0A| #define GW_CORE_RUNTIME_INTERFACE_REVISION 1=0A| #define GW_CORE_RUNTI= ME_INTERFACE_AGE 0=0A| #define GW_GUILE_RUNTIME_INTERFACE_MAJOR_VER 0=0A| #= define GW_GUILE_RUNTIME_INTERFACE_REVISION 2=0A| #define GW_GUILE_RUNTIME_I= NTERFACE_AGE 0=0A| #define STDC_HEADERS 1=0A| #define HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H 1=0A= | #define HAVE_SYS_STAT_H 1=0A| #define HAVE_STDLIB_H 1=0A| #define HAVE_ST= RING_H 1=0A| #define HAVE_MEMORY_H 1=0A| #define HAVE_STRINGS_H 1=0A| #defi= ne HAVE_INTTYPES_H 1=0A| #define HAVE_STDINT_H 1=0A| #define HAVE_UNISTD_H = 1=0A| #define HAVE_DLFCN_H 1=0A| #ifdef __cplusplus=0A| extern "C" void std= ::exit (int) throw (); using std::exit;=0A| #endif=0A| /* end confdefs.h. = */=0A| /* Define shl_load to an innocuous variant, in case decla= res shl_load.=0A| For example, HP-UX 11i declares gettimeofda= y. */=0A| #define shl_load innocuous_shl_load=0A| =0A| /* System header to= define __stub macros and hopefully few prototypes,=0A| which can confl= ict with char shl_load (); below.=0A| Prefer to i= f __STDC__ is defined, since=0A| exists even on freestanding= compilers. */=0A| =0A| #ifdef __STDC__=0A| # include =0A| #else= =0A| # include =0A| #endif=0A| =0A| #undef shl_load=0A| =0A| /* O= verride any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */=0A| #ifdef __cpl= usplus=0A| extern "C"=0A| {=0A| #endif=0A| /* We use char because int might= match the return type of a gcc2=0A| builtin and then its argument proto= type would still apply. */=0A| char shl_load ();=0A| /* The GNU C library = defines this for functions which it implements=0A| to always fail with = ENOSYS. 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=3D 0=0Aconfigure:13549: result: yes=0Aconfigure:135= 73: checking if f77 supports -c -o file.o=0Aconfigure:13594: f77 -c -g -O2 = -o out/conftest2.o conftest.f >&5=0Aconfigure:13598: $? =3D 0=0Aconfigure:1= 3618: result: yes=0Aconfigure:13644: checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/= bin/ld) supports shared libraries=0Aconfigure:14471: result: yes=0Aconfigur= e:14542: checking dynamic linker characteristics=0Aconfigure:15094: result:= freebsd6.1 ld.so=0Aconfigure:15098: checking how to hardcode library paths= into programs=0Aconfigure:15123: result: immediate=0Aconfigure:15137: chec= king whether stripping libraries is possible=0Aconfigure:15142: result: yes= =0Aconfigure:19236: checking for long=0Aconfigure:19260: cc -c -O2 -fno-str= ict-aliasing -pipe conftest.c >&5=0Aconfigure:19266: $? =3D 0=0Aconfigure= :19269: test -z || test ! -s conftest.err=0Aconfigure:19272: $= ? =3D 0=0Aconfigure:19275: test -s conftest.o=0Aconfigure:19278: $? =3D 0= =0Aconfigure:19289: result: yes=0Aconfigure:19292: checking size of long=0A= configure:19604: cc -o conftest -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe conftest.= c >&5=0Aconfigure:19607: $? 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Get started.=0Ahttp://mobile.yahoo.com/mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 18:58:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C71C16A406 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F08713C461 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from insp.local (jn@c-76-23-109-98.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.23.109.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l1PIwWlB050552; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:58:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:57:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <222613bb0702241955m5582948btc47e93090c0e0662@mail.gmail.com> <222613bb0702242034j2eed6e4bw5a9e3390b30dc745@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <222613bb0702242034j2eed6e4bw5a9e3390b30dc745@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702251357.37309.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Eric Stringer Subject: Re: dual monitors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:58:33 -0000 On Saturday 24 February 2007 23:34, Eric Stringer wrote: > I've got FreeBSD 6.2 running with KDE 3.5 with an ATI 9700Pro card. I > have my 37" LCD TV attached to the digital out, and my 17" lcd monitor > attached to the analog out. In the console (not running X) it outputs > the same thing to both TV and monitor, which is fine. However, when I > get into KDE it only outputs to my 17" monitor. I really just want it to > output to the TV, but dual monitors would be nice also. Any advice would > be greatly appreciated. Thanks, > Eric > > Oh yea forgot to post the xorg.xonf file, here it is. Also I have Xorg > 6.9.0. Start by reading "man 4x radeon" and pay close attention to anything it says about "MergedFB". Decide if there's any reason you don't want to or can't use that feature of the driver. If not, you probably want to go that route to get the performance bonus. Look around on the web for examples. If you don't end up wanting or being able to use MergedFB then you should use Xinerama (X's multi-head software). You'll need to enable it with something like this: Section "ServerFlags" Option "Xinerama" "1" EndSection Then you'll need to add an additional Screen item to your ServerLayout section (and specify the relationship between the two screens), then add additional "Device", "Monitor", and "Screen" sections to the file describing your second display. Again, there should be a lot of documentation and examples out there since (as Ted mentioned) this isn't FreeBSD-specific. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 19:16:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4ABE16A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51101.mail.yahoo.com (web51101.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9875F13C4A6 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 65665 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Feb 2007 19:15:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=q/M7ZkYbb9ms3eJ+uZ1KM6sc55unwozK0yUbnnNiKXFNRMbd/VponZXkJmbGXNJlHLEvpv8BmRVCXKNOVoaCG23gdKp2u8oyy8CnRuizUL7yYtn/lfqrgnFmdVCK8vR6Vi89ZXsf81JhRcW2KEPr7Ty11/YTW3e4/NG1QWrjkZs=; X-YMail-OSG: gQGAos4VM1mvzJ_S3HUAsjGsJKVIdwV_7Xq2z_B7E_vljot_LnqhknBEdjRf_NW3uVsxxf8hWsPBhnoqiU_vUF7DbPg.W0ZAzKO5k_PaOtnN.mW9sB2eRiin.XEBgC2GPngPaunHUwz.Zy2cCKRpGvJZ5Q-- Received: from [82.170.181.144] by web51101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:15:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.8 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:15:50 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <131846.65626.qm@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: burning a cd or dvd doesn't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:16:01 -0000 Hi folks,=0A=0AI thought I followed all the steps in the handbook to try to= burn a cd or dvd from my freebsd 6.1 amd64 system but these commands show = the problems I'm experiencing:=0A=0A[root@zouk /usr/ports/devel/g-wrap]# ca= mcontrol devlist=0A at scbus1 target 0 lu= n 0 (cd0,pass0)=0A at scbus1 target 1 lun= 0 (cd1,pass1)=0A=0A[root@zouk /usr/ports/devel/g-wrap]# cdrecord dev=3D1,1= ,0 -checkdrive=0ACdrecord-Clone 2.01 (amd64-unknown-freebsd6.1) Copyright (= C) 1995-2004 J=EF=BF=BDrg Schilling=0Ascsidev: '1,1,0'=0Ascsibus: 1 target:= 1 lun: 0=0Acdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot open SCSI driver.=0Ac= drecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.=0Acdrecord: For poss= ible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=3Dhelp'.=0A=0A[root@zouk /usr/p= orts/devel/g-wrap]# cdrecord -scanbus=0ACdrecord-Clone 2.01 (amd64-unknown-= freebsd6.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J=EF=BF=BDrg Schilling=0Acdrecord: Oper= ation not permitted. Error opening /dev/pass0 Cam error 'cam_real_open_devi= ce: couldn't open passthr. Cannot open SCSI driver.=0Acdrecord: For possibl= e targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.=0Acdrecord: For possible transport speci= fiers try 'cdrecord dev=3Dhelp'.=0A=0A[root@zouk /usr/ports/devel/g-wrap]# = dmesg | grep cd1=0Aacd1: DVDR at ata1-slave UDMA33= =0Acd1 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0=0Acd1: Removab= le CD-ROM SCSI-0 device =0Acd1: 33.000MB/s transfers=0Acd1: Attempt to quer= y device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present=0A=0A=0AWhat am I missi= ng?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A_________________________________________= ___________________________________________=0ADo you Yahoo!?=0AEveryone is = raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.=0Ahttp://new.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 20:09:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190BC16A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED0013C4AA for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.145.126]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1PK9ZXY030511; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:09:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E1ECFA.2080301@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:09:30 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wanderingidea@casema.nl References: <20070225124518.732bb127@bsdbox.cable.casema.nl> In-Reply-To: <20070225124518.732bb127@bsdbox.cable.casema.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weather update plugin 0.6.0 fails to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:09:47 -0000 wanderingidea@casema.nl wrote: > Hi, > > Since xfce 4.4 the weather plugin 0.6.0 fails to update weather data. > > Searching the weather location code also fails. Filling in Rotterdam should > return NLXX0015 but nothing happens. > > So far I cannot find any information on this problem. > > Does anyone has this same problem or any ideas? Hmm, I've had some problems with this prior to 4.4., but AFAICR none since I upgraded last week. Portupgrade reinstalled XFCE without the plugin, so I rebuilt that, too. IIRC, the problems I did have in the past were related to a malformed xml file somewhere under ~/.config/xfce* .... Are you behind a proxy by any chance? Kevin Kinsey -- The future is a myth created by insurance salesmen and high school counselors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 21:05:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992CB16A406 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8151313C4AC for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC641A3C1A for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 51997517C9; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:04:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:04:59 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070225210458.GA78419@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <45E1A9DE.4040209@netfence.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E1A9DE.4040209@netfence.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: kernel debug messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:05:00 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:23:10PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > In the meanwhile I have seen this in the log: >=20 > >Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: lock order reversal: > >Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: 1st 0xc6a37090 inp (divinp) @=20 > >/usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_divert.c:336 > >Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: 2nd 0xc070a18c tcp (tcp) @=20 > >/usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw2.c:1982 > >Feb 24 17:51:53 soth kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Any comments? Divert sockets are known to have lock order reversals which can cause deadlocks under certain situations. I think this particular one has not been reported, so you might like to send it to bz@FreeBSD.org for inclusion in his list (http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html). You might like to ping the net@ list to see if anyone is working on fixing these problems. Kris --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF4fn6Wry0BWjoQKURAh5KAKCjQXLeyfbJivyAeAyQdHFCICJh6gCg7A+b w/KnJllE3GA1Fi8cyIRrvFs= =NtjW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 22:03:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B4A16A403 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from qsrv03ps.mx.bigpond.com (qsrv03ps.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.82.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CED413C441 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from mail.0x7e.net ([121.209.32.118]) by omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070225203117.UIVI19269.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@mail.0x7e.net> for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:31:17 +0000 Received: from qux.0x7e.net ([10.10.10.10]) by mail.0x7e.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1HLQ1d-0004eg-3I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:01:17 +1030 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2D57E1E1-DDD0-41AA-9CE2-000B830B5798@deathbeforedecaf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Rob Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:01:16 +1030 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Using source control to manage system configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:03:12 -0000 Dear List, I'd like some advice on managing config files on multiple servers with a source control system. The idea is to update files locally, and commit them back to a central repository. I know that CVS is the usual choice, but there are a couple of things that I can't get CVS to do. Overlapping directories ----------------------- Some files (/etc/ntp.conf, /etc/resolv.conf) are identical across a site. Instead of duplicating these in the repository, I'd like to create a module like hosts/shared/etc that gets installed on every server. Then each server has a module like hosts/$HOST/etc that adds to or overwrites these files. If a file is updated locally, it is committed back to the correct module. CVS (quite reasonably) won't checkout 2 modules to the same working directory. Filemodes & symlinks -------------------- CVS only works with regular files, and doesn't preserve permissions. I can work around this with mtree(8) and module programs, but it would be nice to have it built-in. So... has anyone come up with a neat way to do these things in CVS, or an SCM system that does it better? Thanks Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 22:04:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E468516A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CDC13C442 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 32246 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2007 22:04:00 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Feb 2007 22:04:00 -0000 Received: from Lowell-Desk.localdomain (Lowell-Desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44CD28426; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by Lowell-Desk.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9F7501CE6A; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:03:56 -0500 (EST) To: ck References: <45DE5F5A.5010707@yourserveradmin.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:03:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <45DE5F5A.5010707@yourserveradmin.com> (ck@yourserveradmin.com's message of "Fri\, 23 Feb 2007 05\:28\:26 +0200") Message-ID: <44vehpopwz.fsf@Lowell-Desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: replacing port in outgoing packets to any host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:04:05 -0000 ck writes: > Hello, participants! > > In constant effort to prevent trojans to send spam following question > came to my mind. > > Is there any way to replace port number for all outgoing packets? > > Long version: > > I want to block outgoing port 25 completely for network behind NAT > router and allow port 8025 for example. But it means that router will > have to replace outgoing port 8025 with port 25. After intensive > googling it looks like my idea is... well... not popular. So, I just > wonder if this is possible at all? Something like this: If it *were* popular, the spammers' viruses would be taught to use it. None of these kinds of "solutions" are scalable. > rdr any to any port 8025 -> any port 25 > > PS Yes, I know that I can redirect port to open-relay on known static IP. You can do something like that, but once you're going to that much effort, it's a lot easier (*and* more effective) to just force everyone to use an internal smarthost. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 22:05:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D6716A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC64E13C49D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EE61D08E7 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:05:46 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: P7C1uIhryHiJSTzrFedb9hIycJTU2g8yr+bCpAbUbYA4 1172441144 Received: from [192.168.1.237] (unknown [205.246.14.236]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB0153AC for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:05:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45E20813.2070701@fastmail.fm> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:05:07 -0600 From: Patrick Bowen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <131846.65626.qm@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <131846.65626.qm@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: burning a cd or dvd doesn't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:05:47 -0000 Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi folks, > > I thought I followed all the steps in the handbook to try to burn a cd or dvd from my freebsd 6.1 amd64 system but these commands show the problems I'm experiencing: > > [root@zouk /usr/ports/devel/g-wrap]# camcontrol devlist > at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass0) > at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (cd1,pass1) > > [root@zouk /usr/ports/devel/g-wrap]# cdrecord dev=1,1,0 -checkdrive > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (amd64-unknown-freebsd6.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J�rg Schilling > scsidev: '1,1,0' > scsibus: 1 target: 1 lun: 0 > cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot open SCSI driver. > cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. > cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. > > [root@zouk /usr/ports/devel/g-wrap]# cdrecord -scanbus > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (amd64-unknown-freebsd6.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J�rg Schilling > cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Error opening /dev/pass0 Cam error 'cam_real_open_device: couldn't open passthr. Cannot open SCSI driver. > cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. > cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. > > [root@zouk /usr/ports/devel/g-wrap]# dmesg | grep cd1 > acd1: DVDR at ata1-slave UDMA33 > cd1 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > cd1: 33.000MB/s transfers > cd1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You'll probably need to load the atapicam module. kldload atapicam as root, of course. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 22:11:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A435716A405 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D68B13C467 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1306635nfc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:11:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PbaT0EgDGJ2GgxNOhNdEMhqJhxgfctJb2VFkFCTyGcSQNblTNt/4ojzdCaZ88XMqUcR6suOpcN2jOjFX/NQtfS514dlp2ARId9UxtdYnjug1RrZJ3kwmTuNiIk/OT0BMmozTpREXnghENcP7nDMkp/hzqzpGf5j6oNf/+2uUZo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qMdWhpRDtZH0jQJ635KJklU9q/Xi+79bKoV+coWnR31nJhDKfmsoCaJWDd/uK1xIVEogqsvCC2Z+kdrTIsDQrNUJB/MQt6aDmaOGkYJtd1uegRNJ0Rwpfi12wO/6ljVF+kWdOrLEOLj2NIM0uYaZFfrKmJHJZHzmT+mAyj+knG4= Received: by 10.82.113.6 with SMTP id l6mr1448049buc.1172441490767; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.1 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:11:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:11:30 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Dino Vliet" In-Reply-To: <476461.12137.qm@web51112.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <476461.12137.qm@web51112.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem building g-wrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:11:32 -0000 On 25/02/07, Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm experiencing problems when building g-wrap on my > amd64 system running freebsd 6.1 after I try to install > gnucash2. The error I get is: > > configure: error: "libffi has not been ported to amd64-portbld-freebsd6.1." > configure: error: /bin/sh './configure' failed for libffi Rather simply, either wait for devel/libffi to be ported to amd64 or use i386 instead of amd64. from ports/devel/libffi/Makefile: BROKEN= "Configure fails on !i386 and !alpha" -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 22:19:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C873416A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33FD13C441 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.108]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JE10013NF5T1310@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:17:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JE100IEGF5S6ZS2@pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:17:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from s01060014bf5ee711.vs.shawcable.net ([70.71.14.48]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JE100CJCF5S3SI0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:17:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:18:02 -0800 From: Andriy Babiy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200702251318.02997.ABabiy@shaw.ca> Organization: home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 Subject: ffmpeg build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:19:32 -0000 Hi all. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? What can I do to avoid it? Thank you very much in advance for advices. Andriy ==================== S01060014bf5ee711# uname -a FreeBSD S01060014bf5ee711 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 22 00:43:46 PST 2007 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KRNSTABLE amd64 ================== gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavformat' cc -O3 -Wall -fPIC -DPIC -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-unit-at-a-time -I.. -I/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1 -I/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavcodec -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o audio.o audio.c audio.c:24:27: sys/soundcard.h: No such file or directory audio.c: In function `audio_open': audio.c:81: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_GETFMTS' undeclared (first use in this function) audio.c:81: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once audio.c:81: error: for each function it appears in.) audio.c:92: error: `AFMT_S16_LE' undeclared (first use in this function) audio.c:94: error: `AFMT_S16_BE' undeclared (first use in this function) audio.c:113: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT' undeclared (first use in this function) audio.c:120: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO' undeclared (first use in this function) audio.c:129: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED' undeclared (first use in this function) audio.c: In function `audio_read_packet': audio.c:243: error: storage size of 'abufi' isn't known audio.c:279: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_GETISPACE' undeclared (first use in this function) audio.c:243: warning: unused variable `abufi' gmake[1]: *** [audio.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavformat' gmake: *** [lib] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 16:15:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F69416A402; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A26713C481; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887467E8DC; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:15:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YBdrneUAtLMT; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F8D7E8C3; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:15:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> <200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:14:55 -0500 To: Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:36:36 +0000 Cc: Kip Macy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:15:23 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 25, 2007, at 5:46 AM, Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] wrote: > On Sunday 25 February 2007 08:59, Kip Macy wrote: >> It looks as if you've hit a device driver that is trying to print out >> a null string. The message you've given doesn't provide any more >> information than that. If you install a snapshot kernel it will >> probably have ddb compiled in which will allow you to at least get a >> backtrace. I'm sorry you're having trouble. > > Grepping the source tree on 6.2-RELEASE shows this message can only > have com > from one place : sys/kern/kern_conf.c in the function prep_cdevsw() : > > if (devsw->d_version != D_VERSION_01) { > printf( > "WARNING: Device driver \"%s\" has wrong > version %s\n", > devsw->d_name == NULL ? "???" : devsw->d_name, > "and is disabled. Recompile KLD module."); > > Looks like the kernel and the modules are out of sync. > Any idea how this could have happened after disabling everything in my /etc/loader.conf, and simply running a: make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconfig make installkernel KERNCONF=myconfig Shouldn't this have installed a fresh kernel plus only essential modules? Here is a diff of my kernel config (which I've called, rather uncreatively, 6.x) against GENERIC: nothing unusual, just IPFIREWALL and Linux compat stuff, right? # diff 6.x GENERIC 19c19 < # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.429.2.7.2.2 2006/05/01 00:15:12 scottl Exp $ - --- > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.429.2.13 2006/10/09 18:41:36 simon Exp $ 30,42c30 < options IPFIREWALL < options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE < options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=10 < options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT < options IPDIVERT < #options VFS_AIO < #options HZ=1200 < #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel < #device pf < #device pflog < #device pfsync < options COMPAT_LINUX < options BRIDGE - --- > makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols 44,49d31 < # Enable the linux-like proc filesystem support (requires COMPAT_LINUX and PSEUDOFS) < options LINPROCFS < < #makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols < < #options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler 77,80d58 < options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug < # output. Adds ~128k to driver. < options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug < # output. Adds ~215k to driver. 103a82,83 > options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug > # output. Adds ~128k to driver. 104a85,86 > options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug > # output. Adds ~215k to driver. 226a209 > device stge # Sundance/Tamarack TC9021 gigabit Ethernet 248a232,234 > device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support > device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support > device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support 249a236,238 > device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's > device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) > device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath > >> On 2/24/07, Joe Auty wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> (sorry, don't know whether kernel problems should go to questions or >>> hackers, or both).. >>> >>> This has been a long-standing problem of mine, but I always ignored >>> it hoping it would go away on its own with a future 6.x release, but >>> it remains... >>> >>> No matter whether I boot into safe mode or regular mode, with all >>> kernel extensions disabled in /boot/loader.conf, I get the following >>> panic late at boot of a fresh RELENG_6_2 kernel (with only a few >>> services left to bring up). The 6.x kernels I've tried all build and >>> installed cleanly without any errors... >>> >>>> WARNING: Device driver " >>>> >>>> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >>>> fault virtual address = 0x400000 >>>> fault code = supervisor read, page not present >>>> instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 >>>> stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c >>>> frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c >>>> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b >>>> = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >>>> processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >>>> current process = 898 (kldload) >>>> trap number = 12 >>>> panic: page fault >>>> uptime: 36s >>>> cannot dump. No dump device defined >>>> automatic reboot in 15 seconds >>> >>> This problem does not occur within any 5.x OS for me. I would >>> certainly like to resolve this issue now, but this sort of debugging >>> is over my head beyond running fsck (which I've tried). Any ideas >>> here? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your help! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------- >>> Joe Auty >>> NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians >>> http://www.netmusician.org >>> joe@netmusician.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Daan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4bX/CgdfeCwsL5ERAiKCAJwKUt52wgB1mtqFSYUr8eFV39lpwgCglL4R t+fcWGuCYkjn6lylcrrZeEM= =bca6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 16:17:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EEF16A4E6; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD92713C4A6; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074DE7E8C3; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:17:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ReUilCFD+PRe; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:17:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D0A7E8B8; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:17:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org> References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> <200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> <228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <77EED272-4C50-440E-8A28-B69BE6EFD62E@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:17:21 -0500 To: Joe Auty X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:36:52 +0000 Cc: , Danovitsch@vitsch.net, Kip Macy , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Daan, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, PA4DAN Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:17:49 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 25, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Joe Auty wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 5:46 AM, Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] wrote: > >> On Sunday 25 February 2007 08:59, Kip Macy wrote: >>> It looks as if you've hit a device driver that is trying to print >>> out >>> a null string. The message you've given doesn't provide any more >>> information than that. If you install a snapshot kernel it will >>> probably have ddb compiled in which will allow you to at least get a >>> backtrace. I'm sorry you're having trouble. >> >> Grepping the source tree on 6.2-RELEASE shows this message can >> only have com >> from one place : sys/kern/kern_conf.c in the function prep_cdevsw() : >> >> if (devsw->d_version != D_VERSION_01) { >> printf( >> "WARNING: Device driver \"%s\" has wrong >> version %s\n", >> devsw->d_name == NULL ? "???" : devsw->d_name, >> "and is disabled. Recompile KLD module."); >> >> Looks like the kernel and the modules are out of sync. >> > > Any idea how this could have happened after disabling everything in > my /etc/loader.conf, and simply running a: > > make buildworld > make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconfig > make installkernel KERNCONF=myconfig > > > Shouldn't this have installed a fresh kernel plus only essential > modules? > > Here is a diff of my kernel config (which I've called, rather > uncreatively, 6.x) against GENERIC: > > nothing unusual, just IPFIREWALL and Linux compat stuff, right? > Forgot to add that I believe I've also tried building a GENERIC kernel and ran into this same problem. It's been a while since I tried this though, so I'll gladly try this again if you think it would be a useful test! =) > > > # diff 6.x GENERIC > 19c19 > < # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.429.2.7.2.2 2006/05/01 > 00:15:12 scottl Exp $ > - --- > > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.429.2.13 2006/10/09 > 18:41:36 simon Exp $ > 30,42c30 > < options IPFIREWALL > < options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > < options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=10 > < options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > < options IPDIVERT > < #options VFS_AIO > < #options HZ=1200 > < #options SMP # Symmetric > MultiProcessor Kernel > < #device pf > < #device pflog > < #device pfsync > < options COMPAT_LINUX > < options BRIDGE > - --- > > makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) > debug symbols > 44,49d31 > < # Enable the linux-like proc filesystem support (requires > COMPAT_LINUX and PSEUDOFS) > < options LINPROCFS > < > < #makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) > debug symbols > < > < #options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler > 77,80d58 > < options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields > in debug > < # output. Adds ~128k to > driver. > < options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields > in debug > < # output. Adds ~215k to > driver. > 103a82,83 > > options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields > in debug > > # output. Adds ~128k to > driver. > 104a85,86 > > options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields > in debug > > # output. Adds ~215k to > driver. > 226a209 > > device stge # Sundance/Tamarack TC9021 > gigabit Ethernet > 248a232,234 > > device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support > > device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support > > device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support > 249a236,238 > > device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's > > device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware > Access Layer) > > device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate > control for ath > > > > > > >> >>> On 2/24/07, Joe Auty wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> (sorry, don't know whether kernel problems should go to >>>> questions or >>>> hackers, or both).. >>>> >>>> This has been a long-standing problem of mine, but I always ignored >>>> it hoping it would go away on its own with a future 6.x release, >>>> but >>>> it remains... >>>> >>>> No matter whether I boot into safe mode or regular mode, with all >>>> kernel extensions disabled in /boot/loader.conf, I get the >>>> following >>>> panic late at boot of a fresh RELENG_6_2 kernel (with only a few >>>> services left to bring up). The 6.x kernels I've tried all build >>>> and >>>> installed cleanly without any errors... >>>> >>>>> WARNING: Device driver " >>>>> >>>>> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >>>>> fault virtual address = 0x400000 >>>>> fault code = supervisor read, page not present >>>>> instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 >>>>> stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c >>>>> frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c >>>>> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b >>>>> = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >>>>> processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >>>>> current process = 898 (kldload) >>>>> trap number = 12 >>>>> panic: page fault >>>>> uptime: 36s >>>>> cannot dump. No dump device defined >>>>> automatic reboot in 15 seconds >>>> >>>> This problem does not occur within any 5.x OS for me. I would >>>> certainly like to resolve this issue now, but this sort of >>>> debugging >>>> is over my head beyond running fsck (which I've tried). Any >>>> ideas here? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for your help! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------- >>>> Joe Auty >>>> NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians >>>> http://www.netmusician.org >>>> joe@netmusician.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> -- >> Daan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFF4bX/CgdfeCwsL5ERAiKCAJwKUt52wgB1mtqFSYUr8eFV39lpwgCglL4R > t+fcWGuCYkjn6lylcrrZeEM= > =bca6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4baRCgdfeCwsL5ERAqllAJ970cqu6/zcONglNu8liNpzIYIJDQCbBLJY GA7DwT7J6Wu8XzBKy7QHj9U= =HhUR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 22:43:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2E516A400 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EC313C461 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 26268 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2007 09:43:04 +1100 Received: from 203-217-48-136.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.48.136) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 26 Feb 2007 09:43:04 +1100 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:43:00 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: deeptech71@gmail.com Message-ID: <20070226094300.5f40b710@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to run root cmds when starting xorg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:43:05 -0000 On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:24:49 +0100 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > From: deeptech71@gmail.com > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: how to run root cmds when starting xorg? > Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:24:49 +0100 > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) > > how do i exec a kldload script when starting ttyv8 kdm (or xorg) ? modify the xorg or kdm startup script? why do you need such thing? _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it. But that it is too low... and we reach it." Michelangelo (1475-1564) I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 22:43:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D164816A482 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4692B13C48D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup72.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.72]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l1PMgrHo018534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:43:03 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1PMgiGr005829; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:42:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l1PMgWrf005820; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:42:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:42:32 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Rob Message-ID: <20070225224231.GC5630@kobe.laptop> References: <2D57E1E1-DDD0-41AA-9CE2-000B830B5798@deathbeforedecaf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2D57E1E1-DDD0-41AA-9CE2-000B830B5798@deathbeforedecaf.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.711, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.49, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using source control to manage system configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:43:26 -0000 On 2007-02-26 07:01, Rob wrote: > Dear List, > > I'd like some advice on managing config files on multiple servers > with a source control system. The idea is to update files locally, > and commit them back to a central repository. > > I know that CVS is the usual choice, but there are a couple of things > that I can't get CVS to do. > > Overlapping directories > ----------------------- > > Some files (/etc/ntp.conf, /etc/resolv.conf) are identical across a > site. Instead of duplicating these in the repository, I'd like to > create a module like > > hosts/shared/etc > > that gets installed on every server. > > Then each server has a module like > > hosts/$HOST/etc > > that adds to or overwrites these files. If a file is updated locally, > it is committed back to the correct module. > > CVS (quite reasonably) won't checkout 2 modules to the same working > directory. > > Filemodes & symlinks > -------------------- > > CVS only works with regular files, and doesn't preserve permissions. > I can work around this with mtree(8) and module programs, but it > would be nice to have it built-in. > > So... has anyone come up with a neat way to do these things in CVS, > or an SCM system that does it better? With modern SCM systems, which support easy distribution and update tracking over distributed collections of 'workspaces', it's very tempting to attempt to do this. I'm still not convinced it's a good idea though. I prefer a more controlled model of a workspace hierarchy where changes are made by trusted people and then a separate "install" process, which publishes, or "pushes" if you prefer, the modified files to the deployment hosts. I know this is now the answer you are looking for, but when evaluating this sort of thing even a "don't do it" option should be evaluated. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 22:58:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C278C16A405 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3C313C428 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1PMwCGh016005 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:58:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1PMwBT2016002 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:58:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:58:11 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070225235522.A14310@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1755526230-1172444291=:14310" Subject: databases/clip doesn't build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:58:16 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1755526230-1172444291=:14310 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT fails on gtkextra and says that /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config doesn't exist gtk12-config is here: gtk12-config is hashed (/usr/X11R6/bin/gtk12-config) what's wrong? Script started on Sun Feb 25 23:56:13 2007 [root@chylonia /usr/ports/databases/clip]# make ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : bash - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : wget - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : xmkmf - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : gmake - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : bison - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : pkg-config - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on shared library: png.5 - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on shared library: gtkextra.17 - not found ===> Verifying install for gtkextra.17 in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 => MD5 Checksum OK for gtk+extra-0.99.17.tar.gz. => SHA256 Checksum OK for gtk+extra-0.99.17.tar.gz. ===> Patching for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on executable in : gmake - found ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool - found ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on executable in : pkg-config - found ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on shared library: glib-12.3 - found ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on shared library: gtk-12.2 - found ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found ===> Configuring for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 creating cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether gmake sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for working aclocal... missing checking for working autoconf... missing checking for working automake... missing checking for working autoheader... missing checking for working makeinfo... found checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gcc... cc checking whether the C compiler (cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium3 ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium3 ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether gmake sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd6.2 checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd6.2 checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes updating cache ./config.cache loading cache ./config.cache within ltconfig checking for object suffix... o checking for executable suffix... no checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... no checking if cc static flag -static works... -static checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd6.2 ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes *** Warning: the command libtool uses to detect shared libraries, *** /usr/bin/file, produces output that libtool cannot recognize. *** The result is that libtool may fail to recognize shared libraries *** as such. This will affect the creation of libtool libraries that *** depend on shared libraries, but programs linked with such libtool *** libraries will work regardless of this problem. Nevertheless, you *** may want to report the problem to your system manager and/or to *** bug-libtool@gnu.org checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking for objdir... .libs creating libtool updating cache ./config.cache loading cache ./config.cache checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd6.2 checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for working const... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking for dirent.h... yes checking for fnmatch.h... yes checking for extra flags for POSIX compliance... none needed checking for working const... (cached) yes checking for inline... inline checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found no *** Could not run GTK test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GTK since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gtk-config script: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating Makefile creating gtkextra/Makefile creating gtkextra/gtkextrafeatures.h creating docs/Makefile creating gtkextra.spec creating gtkextra-config creating config.h ===> Building for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 gmake all-recursive gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra/work/gtk+extra-0.99.17' Making all in gtkextra gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra/work/gtk+extra-0.99.17/gtkextra' /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium3 -Wall -c gtkbordercombo.c mkdir .libs cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium3 -Wall -c gtkbordercombo.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/gtkbordercombo.o gtkbordercombo.c:21:26: gtk/gtkarrow.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:22:25: gtk/gtkhbox.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:23:26: gtk/gtktable.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:24:33: gtk/gtktogglebutton.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:25:27: gtk/gtkpixmap.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:26:29: gtk/gtkeventbox.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:27:27: gtk/gtkbutton.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:28:25: gtk/gtkmain.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:29:27: gtk/gtksignal.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:30:27: gtk/gtkwindow.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:31:26: gtk/gtkframe.h: No such file or directory gtkbordercombo.c:32:28: gdk/gdkkeysyms.h: No such file or directory In file included from gtkbordercombo.c:33: gtkcombobox.h:37: error: syntax error before "GtkHBox" gtkcombobox.h:47: error: syntax error before "GtkHBoxClass" gtkcombobox.h:50: error: syntax error before "gtk_combobox_get_type" gtkcombobox.h:50: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `gtk_combobox_get_type' gtkcombobox.h:50: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gtkcombobox.h:52: error: syntax error before '*' token gtkcombobox.h:52: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `gtk_combobox_new' gtkcombobox.h:52: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from gtkbordercombo.c:34: gtkbordercombo.h:41: error: syntax error before "gint" gtkbordercombo.h:54: error: syntax error before "gint" gtkbordercombo.h:57: error: syntax error before "gtk_border_combo_get_type" gtkbordercombo.h:57: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `gtk_border_combo_get_type' gtkbordercombo.h:57: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gtkbordercombo.h:59: error: syntax error before '*' token gtkbordercombo.h:59: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `gtk_border_combo_new' gtkbordercombo.h:59: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gtkbordercombo.c:42: error: syntax error before "border_combo_signals" gtkbordercombo.c:42: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `border_combo_signals' gtkbordercombo.c:42: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gtkbordercombo.c:76: error: syntax error before '*' token gtkbordercombo.c:77: error: syntax error before '*' token gtkbordercombo.c:78: error: syntax error before '*' token gtkbordercombo.c:79: error: syntax error before "gchar" gtkbordercombo.c:79: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `create_border_pixmap' gtkbordercombo.c:79: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_class_init': gtkbordercombo.c:86: error: `GtkObjectClass' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:86: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once gtkbordercombo.c:86: error: for each function it appears in.) gtkbordercombo.c:86: error: `object_class' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:87: error: `GtkWidgetClass' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:87: error: `widget_class' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:89: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_type_class' gtkbordercombo.c:89: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_hbox_get_type' gtkbordercombo.c:89: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gtkbordercombo.c:90: error: syntax error before ')' token gtkbordercombo.c:91: error: syntax error before ')' token gtkbordercombo.c:97: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_signal_new' gtkbordercombo.c:98: error: `GTK_RUN_FIRST' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:100: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_SIGNAL_OFFSET' gtkbordercombo.c:100: error: syntax error before "GtkBorderComboClass" gtkbordercombo.c:105: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_object_class_add_signals' gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: gtkbordercombo.c:111: error: syntax error before '*' token gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_destroy': gtkbordercombo.c:113: error: syntax error before "i" gtkbordercombo.c:116: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_CHECK_CAST' gtkbordercombo.c:116: error: `border_combo' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:116: error: syntax error before "GtkBorderCombo" gtkbordercombo.c:118: error: `i' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:118: error: structure has no member named `nrows' gtkbordercombo.c:119: error: `j' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:119: error: structure has no member named `ncols' gtkbordercombo.c:120: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_widget_destroy' gtkbordercombo.c:120: error: structure has no member named `button' gtkbordercombo.c:122: error: syntax error before "GtkBorderCombo" gtkbordercombo.c:124: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_OBJECT_CLASS' gtkbordercombo.c:124: error: invalid type argument of `->' gtkbordercombo.c:125: error: invalid type argument of `->' gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: gtkbordercombo.c:131: error: syntax error before '*' token gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_update': gtkbordercombo.c:133: error: syntax error before "i" gtkbordercombo.c:138: error: `GdkPixmap' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:138: error: `window' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:140: error: `row' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:140: error: `border_combo' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:141: error: `column' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:143: error: `i' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:144: error: `j' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:145: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS' gtkbordercombo.c:146: error: `focus_row' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:147: error: `focus_col' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:149: error: `GTK_STATE_ACTIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:151: error: `new_selection' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:151: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:152: error: `new_row' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:153: error: `new_col' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:168: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_BUTTON' gtkbordercombo.c:168: error: invalid type argument of `->' gtkbordercombo.c:168: error: `FALSE' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:169: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_TOGGLE_BUTTON' gtkbordercombo.c:169: error: invalid type argument of `->' gtkbordercombo.c:170: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_widget_set_state' gtkbordercombo.c:170: error: `GTK_STATE_NORMAL' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:171: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_widget_queue_draw' gtkbordercombo.c:175: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_PIXMAP' gtkbordercombo.c:175: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" gtkbordercombo.c:177: warning: implicit declaration of function `gdk_window_copy_area' gtkbordercombo.c:178: error: `widget' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:180: error: invalid type argument of `->' gtkbordercombo.c:180: error: invalid type argument of `->' gtkbordercombo.c:183: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" gtkbordercombo.c:185: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_signal_emit' gtkbordercombo.c:185: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_OBJECT' gtkbordercombo.c:190: error: invalid type argument of `->' gtkbordercombo.c:191: error: invalid type argument of `->' gtkbordercombo.c:201: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_toggle_button_set_active' gtkbordercombo.c:201: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" gtkbordercombo.c:203: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_grab_remove' gtkbordercombo.c:203: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" gtkbordercombo.c:204: warning: implicit declaration of function `gdk_pointer_ungrab' gtkbordercombo.c:204: error: `GDK_CURRENT_TIME' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:205: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_widget_hide' gtkbordercombo.c:205: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_init': gtkbordercombo.c:213: error: `GtkWidget' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:213: error: `widget' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:215: warning: implicit declaration of function `GTK_WIDGET' gtkbordercombo.c:217: error: structure has no member named `nrows' gtkbordercombo.c:218: error: structure has no member named `ncols' gtkbordercombo.c:219: error: structure has no member named `row' gtkbordercombo.c:220: error: structure has no member named `column' gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: gtkbordercombo.c:225: error: syntax error before '*' token gtkbordercombo.c:226: error: syntax error before "gchar" gtkbordercombo.c:227: warning: return type defaults to `int' gtkbordercombo.c: In function `create_border_pixmap': gtkbordercombo.c:228: error: `GtkWidget' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:228: error: `widget' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:229: error: `pixmap' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:230: error: `GdkPixmap' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:230: error: `border_pixmap' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:232: error: `border_combo' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:234: warning: implicit declaration of function `gdk_pixmap_create_from_xpm_d' gtkbordercombo.c:237: error: `GTK_STATE_NORMAL' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:238: error: `border' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:240: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_pixmap_new' gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: gtkbordercombo.c:247: error: syntax error before "gtk_border_combo_get_type" gtkbordercombo.c:248: warning: return type defaults to `int' gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_get_type': gtkbordercombo.c:249: error: syntax error before "border_combo_type" gtkbordercombo.c:251: error: `border_combo_type' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c:253: error: syntax error before "border_combo_info" gtkbordercombo.c:264: warning: implicit declaration of function `gtk_type_unique' gtkbordercombo.c:264: error: `border_combo_info' undeclared (first use in this function) gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: gtkbordercombo.c:266: error: syntax error before "return" gtkbordercombo.c:45: warning: 'xpm_border' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:65: warning: 'full' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:66: warning: 'dotted' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:67: warning: 'side111' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:68: warning: 'side000' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:69: warning: 'side101' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:70: warning: 'side010' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:71: warning: 'side100' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:72: warning: 'side001' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:85: warning: 'gtk_border_combo_class_init' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:212: warning: 'gtk_border_combo_init' defined but not used gtkbordercombo.c:77: warning: 'gtk_border_combo_realize' declared `static' but never defined gtkbordercombo.c:132: warning: 'gtk_border_combo_update' defined but not used gmake[2]: *** [gtkbordercombo.lo] B³±d 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra/work/gtk+extra-0.99.17/gtkextra' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] B³±d 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra/work/gtk+extra-0.99.17' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] B³±d 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/clip. [root@chylonia /usr/ports/databases/clip]# exit Script done on Sun Feb 25 23:57:04 2007 --0-1755526230-1172444291=:14310-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 23:03:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9235D16A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3008413C441 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs3.xs4all.nl (xs3.xs4all.nl [194.109.21.4]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1PMoD3H067663; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:50:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs3.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xs3.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1PMoDdp092567; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:50:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: (from tournoij@localhost) by xs3.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1PMo700092566; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:50:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:50:07 +0100 From: Martin Tournoij To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070225225007.GA92099@xs3.xs4all.nl> References: <200702251318.02997.ABabiy@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200702251318.02997.ABabiy@shaw.ca> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: ABabiy@shaw.ca Subject: Re: ffmpeg build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:03:57 -0000 On Sun 25 Feb 2007 13:02, Andriy Babiy wrote: > Hi all. > > Is anyone else experiencing this problem? What can I do to avoid it? Thank > you very much in advance for advices. > > Andriy > > ==================== > S01060014bf5ee711# uname -a > FreeBSD S01060014bf5ee711 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 22 > 00:43:46 PST 2007 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KRNSTABLE amd64 > > ================== > gmake[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavformat' > cc -O3 -Wall -fPIC -DPIC -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-unit-at-a-time -I.. -I/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1 -I/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavcodec -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o > audio.o audio.c > audio.c:24:27: sys/soundcard.h: No such file or directory > audio.c: In function `audio_open': > audio.c:81: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_GETFMTS' undeclared (first use in this > function) > audio.c:81: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > audio.c:81: error: for each function it appears in.) > audio.c:92: error: `AFMT_S16_LE' undeclared (first use in this function) > audio.c:94: error: `AFMT_S16_BE' undeclared (first use in this function) > audio.c:113: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT' undeclared (first use in this > function) > audio.c:120: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO' undeclared (first use in this > function) > audio.c:129: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED' undeclared (first use in this > function) > audio.c: In function `audio_read_packet': > audio.c:243: error: storage size of 'abufi' isn't known > audio.c:279: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_GETISPACE' undeclared (first use in this > function) > audio.c:243: warning: unused variable `abufi' > gmake[1]: *** [audio.o] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavformat' > gmake: *** [lib] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. ffmpeg can't find /usr/include/sys/soundcard.h Did you delete /usr/include? You can extract the 6.2 base tarball into annother directory (for example /usr/base) and then copy /usr/base/usr/include to /usr/include. Or you can copy the files from the freebsd source... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 23:04:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781FF16A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A4F13C4AC for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1PN47HE018062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:04:07 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1PN457l003959 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:04:06 -0800 Message-ID: <45E215D4.9040801@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:03:48 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070225235522.A14310@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070225235522.A14310@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.25.144934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__C230066_P3_2 0, __C230066_P3_4 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __DEGREE_NO_WORK_REQUIRED 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __PHISH_PHRASE1_F 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: databases/clip doesn't build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:04:08 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > fails on gtkextra and says that /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config doesn't exist > > gtk12-config is here: > > > gtk12-config is hashed (/usr/X11R6/bin/gtk12-config) > > > what's wrong? > > > Script started on Sun Feb 25 23:56:13 2007 > [root@chylonia /usr/ports/databases/clip]# make > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : bash - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : wget - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : xmkmf - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : gmake - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : bison - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract > - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on executable in : pkg-config - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on shared library: png.5 - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found > ===> clip-1.1.16.1_1 depends on shared library: gtkextra.17 - not found > ===> Verifying install for gtkextra.17 in > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Extracting for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 > => MD5 Checksum OK for gtk+extra-0.99.17.tar.gz. > => SHA256 Checksum OK for gtk+extra-0.99.17.tar.gz. > ===> Patching for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 > ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on executable in : gmake - found > ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool - found > ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on executable in : pkg-config - found > ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on shared library: glib-12.3 - found > ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on shared library: gtk-12.2 - found > ===> gtkextra-0.99.17_2 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found > ===> Configuring for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 > creating cache ./config.cache > checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g > wheel > checking whether build environment is sane... yes > checking whether gmake sets ${MAKE}... yes > checking for working aclocal... missing > checking for working autoconf... missing > checking for working automake... missing > checking for working autoheader... missing > checking for working makeinfo... found > checking whether build environment is sane... yes > checking for gcc... cc > checking whether the C compiler (cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > -march=pentium3 ) works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > -march=pentium3 ) is a cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... yes > checking whether cc accepts -g... yes > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed > checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g > wheel > checking whether gmake sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes > checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd6.2 > checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd6.2 > checking for ranlib... ranlib > checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld > checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes > checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B > checking whether ln -s works... yes > updating cache ./config.cache > loading cache ./config.cache within ltconfig > checking for object suffix... o > checking for executable suffix... no > checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC > checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes > checking if cc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... no > checking if cc static flag -static works... -static > checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes > checking whether the linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok > checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate > checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r > checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd6.2 ld.so > checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes > > *** Warning: the command libtool uses to detect shared libraries, > *** /usr/bin/file, produces output that libtool cannot recognize. > *** The result is that libtool may fail to recognize shared libraries > *** as such. This will affect the creation of libtool libraries that > *** depend on shared libraries, but programs linked with such libtool > *** libraries will work regardless of this problem. Nevertheless, you > *** may want to report the problem to your system manager and/or to > *** bug-libtool@gnu.org > > checking whether to build shared libraries... yes > checking whether to build static libraries... yes > checking for objdir... .libs > creating libtool > updating cache ./config.cache > loading cache ./config.cache > checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no > checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd6.2 > checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E > checking for ANSI C header files... yes > checking for working const... yes > checking for unistd.h... yes > checking for dirent.h... yes > checking for fnmatch.h... yes > checking for extra flags for POSIX compliance... none needed > checking for working const... (cached) yes > checking for inline... inline > checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... ./configure: > /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found > ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found > ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found > ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found > ./configure: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config: not found > no > *** Could not run GTK test program, checking why... > *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log > for the > *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK was incorrectly > installed > *** or that you have moved GTK since it was installed. In the latter > case, you > *** may want to edit the gtk-config script: /usr/local/bin/gtk12-config > updating cache ./config.cache > creating ./config.status > creating Makefile > creating gtkextra/Makefile > creating gtkextra/gtkextrafeatures.h > creating docs/Makefile > creating gtkextra.spec > creating gtkextra-config > creating config.h > ===> Building for gtkextra-0.99.17_2 > gmake all-recursive > gmake[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra/work/gtk+extra-0.99.17' > Making all in gtkextra > gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra/work/gtk+extra-0.99.17/gtkextra' > /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. > -I.. -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium3 -Wall -c > gtkbordercombo.c > mkdir .libs > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > -march=pentium3 -Wall -c gtkbordercombo.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > .libs/gtkbordercombo.o > gtkbordercombo.c:21:26: gtk/gtkarrow.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:22:25: gtk/gtkhbox.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:23:26: gtk/gtktable.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:24:33: gtk/gtktogglebutton.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:25:27: gtk/gtkpixmap.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:26:29: gtk/gtkeventbox.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:27:27: gtk/gtkbutton.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:28:25: gtk/gtkmain.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:29:27: gtk/gtksignal.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:30:27: gtk/gtkwindow.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:31:26: gtk/gtkframe.h: No such file or directory > gtkbordercombo.c:32:28: gdk/gdkkeysyms.h: No such file or directory > In file included from gtkbordercombo.c:33: > gtkcombobox.h:37: error: syntax error before "GtkHBox" > gtkcombobox.h:47: error: syntax error before "GtkHBoxClass" > gtkcombobox.h:50: error: syntax error before "gtk_combobox_get_type" > gtkcombobox.h:50: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > `gtk_combobox_get_type' > gtkcombobox.h:50: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > gtkcombobox.h:52: error: syntax error before '*' token > gtkcombobox.h:52: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > `gtk_combobox_new' > gtkcombobox.h:52: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > In file included from gtkbordercombo.c:34: > gtkbordercombo.h:41: error: syntax error before "gint" > gtkbordercombo.h:54: error: syntax error before "gint" > gtkbordercombo.h:57: error: syntax error before "gtk_border_combo_get_type" > gtkbordercombo.h:57: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > `gtk_border_combo_get_type' > gtkbordercombo.h:57: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > gtkbordercombo.h:59: error: syntax error before '*' token > gtkbordercombo.h:59: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > `gtk_border_combo_new' > gtkbordercombo.h:59: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > gtkbordercombo.c:42: error: syntax error before "border_combo_signals" > gtkbordercombo.c:42: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > `border_combo_signals' > gtkbordercombo.c:42: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > gtkbordercombo.c:76: error: syntax error before '*' token > gtkbordercombo.c:77: error: syntax error before '*' token > gtkbordercombo.c:78: error: syntax error before '*' token > gtkbordercombo.c:79: error: syntax error before "gchar" > gtkbordercombo.c:79: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > `create_border_pixmap' > gtkbordercombo.c:79: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_class_init': > gtkbordercombo.c:86: error: `GtkObjectClass' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:86: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only > once > gtkbordercombo.c:86: error: for each function it appears in.) > gtkbordercombo.c:86: error: `object_class' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:87: error: `GtkWidgetClass' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:87: error: `widget_class' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:89: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_type_class' > gtkbordercombo.c:89: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_hbox_get_type' > gtkbordercombo.c:89: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer > without a cast > gtkbordercombo.c:90: error: syntax error before ')' token > gtkbordercombo.c:91: error: syntax error before ')' token > gtkbordercombo.c:97: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_signal_new' > gtkbordercombo.c:98: error: `GTK_RUN_FIRST' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:100: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_SIGNAL_OFFSET' > gtkbordercombo.c:100: error: syntax error before "GtkBorderComboClass" > gtkbordercombo.c:105: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_object_class_add_signals' > gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: > gtkbordercombo.c:111: error: syntax error before '*' token > gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_destroy': > gtkbordercombo.c:113: error: syntax error before "i" > gtkbordercombo.c:116: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_CHECK_CAST' > gtkbordercombo.c:116: error: `border_combo' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:116: error: syntax error before "GtkBorderCombo" > gtkbordercombo.c:118: error: `i' undeclared (first use in this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:118: error: structure has no member named `nrows' > gtkbordercombo.c:119: error: `j' undeclared (first use in this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:119: error: structure has no member named `ncols' > gtkbordercombo.c:120: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_widget_destroy' > gtkbordercombo.c:120: error: structure has no member named `button' > gtkbordercombo.c:122: error: syntax error before "GtkBorderCombo" > gtkbordercombo.c:124: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_OBJECT_CLASS' > gtkbordercombo.c:124: error: invalid type argument of `->' > gtkbordercombo.c:125: error: invalid type argument of `->' > gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: > gtkbordercombo.c:131: error: syntax error before '*' token > gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_update': > gtkbordercombo.c:133: error: syntax error before "i" > gtkbordercombo.c:138: error: `GdkPixmap' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:138: error: `window' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:140: error: `row' undeclared (first use in this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:140: error: `border_combo' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:141: error: `column' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:143: error: `i' undeclared (first use in this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:144: error: `j' undeclared (first use in this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:145: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_WIDGET_HAS_FOCUS' > gtkbordercombo.c:146: error: `focus_row' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:147: error: `focus_col' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:149: error: `GTK_STATE_ACTIVE' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:151: error: `new_selection' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:151: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:152: error: `new_row' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:153: error: `new_col' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:168: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_BUTTON' > gtkbordercombo.c:168: error: invalid type argument of `->' > gtkbordercombo.c:168: error: `FALSE' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:169: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_TOGGLE_BUTTON' > gtkbordercombo.c:169: error: invalid type argument of `->' > gtkbordercombo.c:170: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_widget_set_state' > gtkbordercombo.c:170: error: `GTK_STATE_NORMAL' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:171: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_widget_queue_draw' > gtkbordercombo.c:175: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_PIXMAP' > gtkbordercombo.c:175: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" > gtkbordercombo.c:177: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gdk_window_copy_area' > gtkbordercombo.c:178: error: `widget' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:180: error: invalid type argument of `->' > gtkbordercombo.c:180: error: invalid type argument of `->' > gtkbordercombo.c:183: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" > gtkbordercombo.c:185: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_signal_emit' > gtkbordercombo.c:185: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_OBJECT' > gtkbordercombo.c:190: error: invalid type argument of `->' > gtkbordercombo.c:191: error: invalid type argument of `->' > gtkbordercombo.c:201: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_toggle_button_set_active' > gtkbordercombo.c:201: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" > gtkbordercombo.c:203: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_grab_remove' > gtkbordercombo.c:203: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" > gtkbordercombo.c:204: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gdk_pointer_ungrab' > gtkbordercombo.c:204: error: `GDK_CURRENT_TIME' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:205: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_widget_hide' > gtkbordercombo.c:205: error: syntax error before "GtkComboBox" > gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_init': > gtkbordercombo.c:213: error: `GtkWidget' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:213: error: `widget' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:215: warning: implicit declaration of function > `GTK_WIDGET' > gtkbordercombo.c:217: error: structure has no member named `nrows' > gtkbordercombo.c:218: error: structure has no member named `ncols' > gtkbordercombo.c:219: error: structure has no member named `row' > gtkbordercombo.c:220: error: structure has no member named `column' > gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: > gtkbordercombo.c:225: error: syntax error before '*' token > gtkbordercombo.c:226: error: syntax error before "gchar" > gtkbordercombo.c:227: warning: return type defaults to `int' > gtkbordercombo.c: In function `create_border_pixmap': > gtkbordercombo.c:228: error: `GtkWidget' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:228: error: `widget' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:229: error: `pixmap' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:230: error: `GdkPixmap' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:230: error: `border_pixmap' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:232: error: `border_combo' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:234: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gdk_pixmap_create_from_xpm_d' > gtkbordercombo.c:237: error: `GTK_STATE_NORMAL' undeclared (first use in > this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:238: error: `border' undeclared (first use in this > function) > gtkbordercombo.c:240: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_pixmap_new' > gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: > gtkbordercombo.c:247: error: syntax error before > "gtk_border_combo_get_type" > gtkbordercombo.c:248: warning: return type defaults to `int' > gtkbordercombo.c: In function `gtk_border_combo_get_type': > gtkbordercombo.c:249: error: syntax error before "border_combo_type" > gtkbordercombo.c:251: error: `border_combo_type' undeclared (first use > in this function) > gtkbordercombo.c:253: error: syntax error before "border_combo_info" > gtkbordercombo.c:264: warning: implicit declaration of function > `gtk_type_unique' > gtkbordercombo.c:264: error: `border_combo_info' undeclared (first use > in this function) > gtkbordercombo.c: At top level: > gtkbordercombo.c:266: error: syntax error before "return" > gtkbordercombo.c:45: warning: 'xpm_border' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:65: warning: 'full' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:66: warning: 'dotted' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:67: warning: 'side111' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:68: warning: 'side000' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:69: warning: 'side101' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:70: warning: 'side010' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:71: warning: 'side100' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:72: warning: 'side001' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:85: warning: 'gtk_border_combo_class_init' defined but > not used > gtkbordercombo.c:212: warning: 'gtk_border_combo_init' defined but not used > gtkbordercombo.c:77: warning: 'gtk_border_combo_realize' declared > `static' but never defined > gtkbordercombo.c:132: warning: 'gtk_border_combo_update' defined but not > used > gmake[2]: *** [gtkbordercombo.lo] B³±d 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra/work/gtk+extra-0.99.17/gtkextra' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] B³±d 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra/work/gtk+extra-0.99.17' > gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] B³±d 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtkextra. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/clip. > [root@chylonia /usr/ports/databases/clip]# exit > > Script done on Sun Feb 25 23:57:04 2007 Basically it (gcc/gmake) are looking for headers / definitions that don't exist in the included files. Please submit the information included above and the configuration script output to the port maintainer. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 23:16:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DDA16A404 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA0A13C46B for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1319202nfc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:16:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N7LGZLpSV+i+BNRDqC+5vBTtJpsANUnHSsFbTJ4bEn0XbCWTj25wnU9kynv3AMtQlASGsQkSKh7A0baZ/4N7IxIk2PoxCPX7+iqdigIOkZuUtnV/yD3LPY3hlAjZ61NP+2hTwzPit7ePFT6R706Zadp2+BmSbWz5ymxa8EgzFJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hxYYozX7k6X4n2mFMagaHDnt4UgfSqOwg3wm4ZBLThrfu2z4iVklsviphMXTDoRbkBIR0ILGesNTZApA8Hpx+zNwMqYzA5WhyXzOQiO5vUi8+vZ3Bhlpwe/Z4pmyX/CThaSEeAS71IT2Vm7lT99pXCeS6W9nHGWLv9qjA+df658= Received: by 10.49.28.3 with SMTP id f3mr11338824nfj.1172445374565; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:16:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.107.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g8sm19272852muf.2007.02.25.15.16.13; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:16:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E218CC.7060902@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:16:28 +0100 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: compiling always generates fast code? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:16:16 -0000 Do you get processor-specific code when you do buildworld and buildkernel, particularly on a -RELEASE? Does building from ports always automatically optimize code (vs packages)? Do I need to strip some files after the compilation (world, kernel, ports) to get the absolute maximum performance? Any other tips to speed up executables? THX! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 25 23:28:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AA216A401 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD43013C442 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1321536nfc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:28:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FR+AZQxt1ozXi3c/kBMgzxm7X7bbYTiYjOOKofpwspDhCLu0YlVwP45S3+/7kE28XT3WNUNtc5TwUsAB4n8FQva8qeHXQ5UHeeK7mdtnaG+vDADCLCfpHvjyY4REPgOZb06dhfoIbjASntyei8zE1eijruezExiDPDi/CQM2sus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LKZMsWJ8F0t3L1FIszqIkBJilPIepTK/JzQkW/KFGJG48g0JbYvfvASkfZ5DEUW84RMmzUNfT5RohA3uepI8aA1hi50sWuYO6Ku4sRWq78iP5OnuKYdhaR7Pv7xkKV7H/42ZqC8kJipG35yiFmvJL8ISXFp3Q95EEWMRpN1ZAkg= Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr11427338nfl.1172446082639; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.107.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i5sm19189428mue.2007.02.25.15.28.01; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:28:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E21B90.7060102@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:28:16 +0100 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> <20070226094300.5f40b710@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070226094300.5f40b710@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to run root cmds when starting xorg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:28:09 -0000 Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:24:49 +0100 > deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > >> From: deeptech71@gmail.com >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: how to run root cmds when starting xorg? >> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:24:49 +0100 >> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) >> >> how do i exec a kldload script when starting ttyv8 kdm (or xorg) ? > > modify the xorg or kdm startup script? Xorg's xinitrc is a user script. Or does one of the X server or client thing start as root? If so, which script runs? xinitrc didnt work.. "...../kdm -nodaemon": exactly which one (if any) executed as root? > why do you need such thing? I want to load sound support only when in a desktop environment, and auto-disable it when moving back to a console. That is, I need a script that loads sound when starting, and unloads when exiting kdm. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 00:04:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E2216A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail43.e.nsc.no (mail43.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C735B13C48D for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [62.16.181.21] (062016181021.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.181.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail43.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l1Q0462c002677 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:04:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E22386.4090606@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:14 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061228) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> <20070226094300.5f40b710@localhost> <45E21B90.7060102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <45E21B90.7060102@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to run root cmds when starting xorg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:04:09 -0000 "deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Norberto Meijome wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:24:49 +0100 >> deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> From: deeptech71@gmail.com >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: how to run root cmds when starting xorg? >>> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:24:49 +0100 >>> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) >>> >>> how do i exec a kldload script when starting ttyv8 kdm (or xorg) ? >> modify the xorg or kdm startup script? > > Xorg's xinitrc is a user script. Or does one of the X server or client thing > start as root? If so, which script runs? xinitrc didnt work.. > "...../kdm -nodaemon": exactly which one (if any) executed as root? The startup script is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0. You may also want to have a look at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession. This latter file will call up ~/.xsession, which is where we normally put commands at the beginning of an X session called up through xdm. What I do in that file is to call nvidia-settings and display a background image. I guess ~/.xsession is the right place to put a kldload - this file may be simply a symlink to .xinitrc (if the setup you want is in this file). >> why do you need such thing? > > I want to load sound support only when in a desktop environment, and > auto-disable it when moving back to a console. That is, I need a script that > loads sound when starting, and unloads when exiting kdm. Okay, when you revert to the console, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xreset may be the right place to put a kldunload. Or maybe you could use GiveConsole and TakeConsole (in the same directory) to accomplish these tasks. I hope more expert users will chime in with more information about the difference between these various command files. Have a look at "man xdm" as well as /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config. For some reason, not many users appear to use xdm. The majority apparently prefer kdm or gdm or just .xinitrc. I find that odd myself. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 00:37:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCD816A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C421213C478 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from adsl-69-210-44-126.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net ([69.210.44.126] helo=cheyenne.sixcompanies.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HLRSJ-000JZc-AU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:02:55 -0500 Received: from coors.sixcompanies.com (coors.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.5]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1PM2r46003312 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:02:53 -0600 (CST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 69.210.44.126 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: lonebandit Message-Id: <200702252202.l1PM2r46003312@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:02:36 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: pf and keep/modulate state on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:37:32 -0000 I was noticing sporadic FTP transfers DOWN to my fbsd 6.2 machine over my DSL line...it would go/pause/go/pause - just a bit, but overall slowed the transfers down quite a bit. I looked at my pf.conf file and changed MODULATE state to KEEP state in all places and my issues went away....fast clean consistent downloads. If I changed it back...the issues came back. is this expected behavior? - the machine is a p4-3.06 with 1GB ram and hardly doing anything but PPPoE and pf with NAT. Anyone have any comments they could share? -JD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 00:51:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD40916A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8527E13C48D for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1Q0pi6P020903; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002201c75940$1e828e00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chris Slothouber" , References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org><002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E12693.9050206@hier7.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:50:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:51:45 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:51:47 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Slothouber" To: Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andrew Lentvorski" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:38 PM > > Subject: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? > > > > > >> Can we please get the FreeBSD torrent tracker and/or server back? > >> > >> (snip) > >> > > > > Nobody pays the mirrors for their bandwidth. They are hosting and > > paying for the bandwidth out of the goodness of their hearts. > > > > Nothing is stopping you from setting up your own torrent server on a big > > fast > > pipe that everyone else can use, and not pay you for. > > > > I don't know for sure how other ISP's do it but we definitely use > > bandwidth limitations on the servers we host, customers that pay a lot > > get a lot, customers that pay less get less, and the freebie servers > > get whatever is left over after the paying customers have had their fill. > > > > (snip) > > > > I would suspect if you examined the financing scheme used for the Linux > > download servers you would find that it is quite different than FreeBSD. > > But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to > *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs > involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client > receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? Most of the time the way peer-to-peer filesharing is used, the point is to hide the sources of the streams, in order to distribute illicit material. What your talking about only works if you have a large group of FreeBSD volunteers that are willing to run the torrent servers. Let's assume that only 0.01% of any population group would step up to the plate to offer a torrent server. Well I can see a Linux torrent network working because Linux has an order of magnitude greater number of users than FreeBSD. But I think you would find it impossible to recruit something like 1000 FreeBSD users to step up to the plate and offer a torrent server. The population numbers just aren't there. Worse, the initial people that offer the server are going to get the brunt of the load and you can't give them any guarentee that your going to be able to recruit future torrent servers to lessen the work on them. Like out-of-control-broadcating on an Ethernet nework, sometimes in networking things just coalesce out of nowhere when the network gets large enough. I don't think we have enough FreeBSD users in the population to depend on things like this just appearing by themselves. FreeBSD came to the "grow big or grow well" crossroads many years ago and took the "grow well" path. Linux took the "grow big" path. It is very much like what happened to MacOS and Windows. One grew big, the other grew well. Today, though, neither can really change. FreeBSD can no more displace Linux in terms of numbers and in terms of newbies using it, than Linux could displace FreeBSD in terms of being able to be usable for commercial products, or displace FreeBSD in terms of being able to collect the absolute best developers in the industry. I think the Open Source world is much better off for this happening since it gives more different choices for the consumers, but by the same coin your going to be frustrated if you try to make FreeBSD look, walk and talk just like Linux. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 00:57:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BE116A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9450613C471 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1Q0vrEX020935; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:57:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Joe Auty" , "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org><200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> <228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:56:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:57:56 -0800 (PST) Cc: Kip Macy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:57:57 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Auty" To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" Cc: "Kip Macy" ; ; Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:14 AM Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > > Any idea how this could have happened after disabling everything in > my /etc/loader.conf, and simply running a: > > make buildworld > make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconfig > make installkernel KERNCONF=myconfig > well your supposed to do this single-user, run mergemaster and a few other things. I also don't see a make installworld. Joe, please try booting from a 6.2-release install ISO. If it works without panicing, then you did something wrong during the upgrade. Since by your own admission your not an expert, you would be well advised to simply back up your files the old fashioned way, reformat your hard disk, install from a 6.2 boot ISO, then restore your files. Leave the fancy in-place updating to someone else. It's a big PIA and doesen't work half the time anyway. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 00:58:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAC716A484 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBFD13C481 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1338166nfc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:58:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VwSDoWzaa/cZ/AiF/oWEUz5UqeBo2JJOp/7If+GYPSTOyk7B9FhRD25mzRUdrWeemXYmB9SLuzHoOtOfYbeMbK0C5y3H3ahoO0xOTNrOxyOKx+bhp7v7kelEZW4Q3H8V1AAVM71E+Q9KubLdGSvXN/DHDn/9xB9UaNUtwvAjm7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Fw/fdvSyhOlbDW+tUH5Wjy4HK7A0bnB/temg6USgG4bfGCUlh7fvNkvR9xGWiPhR5Duhn6+mMmFDp+kAQ1XxYPGzgXq1dw6yD5CWfaCR6IdSMKin7bx1BRf6PGHlxKxkdIWplKlvu8h4pPbFdpZOyRff350c9WTRgy4JcTRVFNc= Received: by 10.78.81.20 with SMTP id e20mr394051hub.1172451491654; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.17.18 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:58:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:58:11 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: <002201c75940$1e828e00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org> <002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E12693.9050206@hier7.com> <002201c75940$1e828e00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Chris Slothouber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:58:14 -0000 Oh ya..i agree. I was being a futurist, not a realist. On 2/25/07, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Slothouber" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Andrew Lentvorski" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:38 PM > > > Subject: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? > > > > > > > > >> Can we please get the FreeBSD torrent tracker and/or server back? > > >> > > >> (snip) > > >> > > > > > > Nobody pays the mirrors for their bandwidth. They are hosting and > > > paying for the bandwidth out of the goodness of their hearts. > > > > > > Nothing is stopping you from setting up your own torrent server on a > big > > > fast > > > pipe that everyone else can use, and not pay you for. > > > > > > I don't know for sure how other ISP's do it but we definitely use > > > bandwidth limitations on the servers we host, customers that pay a lot > > > get a lot, customers that pay less get less, and the freebie servers > > > get whatever is left over after the paying customers have had their > fill. > > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > I would suspect if you examined the financing scheme used for the > Linux > > > download servers you would find that it is quite different than > FreeBSD. > > > > But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to > > *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs > > involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client > > receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? > > Most of the time the way peer-to-peer filesharing is used, the point is to > hide the sources of the streams, in order to distribute illicit material. > > What your talking about only works if you have a large group of FreeBSD > volunteers > that are willing to run the torrent servers. Let's assume that only 0.01% > of any > population group would step up to the plate to offer a torrent > server. Well > I can see a Linux torrent network working because Linux has an order of > magnitude > greater number of users than FreeBSD. But I think you would find it > impossible > to recruit something like 1000 FreeBSD users to step up to the plate and > offer a torrent server. The population numbers just aren't there. Worse, > the > initial people that offer the server are going to get the brunt of the > load > and > you can't give them any guarentee that your going to be able to recruit > future > torrent servers to lessen the work on them. > > Like out-of-control-broadcating on an Ethernet nework, sometimes in > networking > things just coalesce out of nowhere when the network gets large enough. I > don't > think we have enough FreeBSD users in the population to depend on things > like > this just appearing by themselves. > > FreeBSD came to the "grow big or grow well" crossroads many years ago and > took the "grow well" path. Linux took the "grow big" path. It is very > much > like > what happened to MacOS and Windows. One grew big, the other grew well. > Today, though, neither can really change. FreeBSD can no more displace > Linux > in terms of numbers and in terms of newbies using it, than Linux could > displace > FreeBSD in terms of being able to be usable for commercial products, or > displace > FreeBSD in terms of being able to collect the absolute best developers in > the > industry. I think the Open Source world is much better off for this > happening since > it gives more different choices for the consumers, but by the same coin > your > going to be frustrated if you try to make FreeBSD look, walk and talk just > like > Linux. > > Ted > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 01:01:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D46316A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3632213C442 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1Q11WW2020976; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:01:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <004001c75941$7cedbd10$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "J.D. Bronson" References: <200702252202.l1PM2r46003312@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:00:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:01:33 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Re: pf and keep/modulate state on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:01:34 -0000 any reason you need to use pf instead of ipfw? Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.D. Bronson" To: Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: pf and keep/modulate state on 6.2 > I was noticing sporadic FTP transfers DOWN to my fbsd 6.2 machine > over my DSL line...it would go/pause/go/pause - just a bit, but > overall slowed the transfers down quite a bit. > > I looked at my pf.conf file and changed MODULATE state to KEEP state > in all places and my issues went away....fast clean consistent downloads. > > If I changed it back...the issues came back. > > is this expected behavior? - the machine is a p4-3.06 with 1GB ram > and hardly doing anything but PPPoE and pf with NAT. > > Anyone have any comments they could share? > > -JD > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 01:02:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F2B16A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from claire.ber.rewt.org.uk (claire.ber.rewt.org.uk [217.160.200.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6664713C4AA for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by claire.ber.rewt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01555B940; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at claire.ber.rewt.org.uk Received: from claire.ber.rewt.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (claire.ber.rewt.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yAIdCvSsXRpL; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.10.147] (dsl172-67.as6911.net [62.84.172.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by claire.ber.rewt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBF1B93F; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:29 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <45E2319E.8050202@joeholden.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:22 +0000 From: Joe Holden User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org><002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E12693.9050206@hier7.com> <002201c75940$1e828e00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <002201c75940$1e828e00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chris Slothouber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:37 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Slothouber" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? > > >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew Lentvorski" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:38 PM >>> Subject: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? >>> >>> >>>> Can we please get the FreeBSD torrent tracker and/or server back? >>>> >>>> (snip) >>>> >>> Nobody pays the mirrors for their bandwidth. They are hosting and >>> paying for the bandwidth out of the goodness of their hearts. >>> >>> Nothing is stopping you from setting up your own torrent server on a big >>> fast >>> pipe that everyone else can use, and not pay you for. >>> I would be happy to host torrents.freebsd.org (aswell as the tracker and torrents themselves)if no one else has offered. Ta, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 02:47:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0037916A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA27F13C478 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307136102; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:47:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9W5BY2lxJhqp; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-114-230.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.114.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8197A5EC8; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:47:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45E24A50.6030405@mac.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:47:44 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: deeptech71@gmail.com References: <45E218CC.7060902@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <45E218CC.7060902@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compiling always generates fast code? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:47:49 -0000 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Do you get processor-specific code when you do buildworld and > buildkernel, particularly on a -RELEASE? No, not unless you've configured the kernel Makefile and /etc/make.conf to include processor-specific CFLAGS. See /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf. > Does building from ports always automatically optimize code (vs packages)? Both ports and packages are optimized at the default level of "-O", unless you set it otherwise. The kernel & world are known to be safe building using: -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing > Do I need to strip some files after the compilation (world, kernel, > ports) to get the absolute maximum performance? > > Any other tips to speed up executables? Sure, benchmark performance and make sure you run any self-testing routines ("make test" or "make check", usually) when you experiment with non-default optimizations. Pay attention to whether you obtain significant gains by using non-default optimizations, because the answer generally varies in different situations and on different CPU types. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 02:49:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF04516A409 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail43.e.nsc.no (mail43.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C51213C4BE for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [62.16.181.21] (062016181021.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.181.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail43.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l1Q0JvqT006079 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:19:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E227C8.7010409@next.online.no> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:20:24 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> <20070226094300.5f40b710@localhost> <45E21B90.7060102@gmail.com> <45E22386.4090606@netscape.net> In-Reply-To: <45E22386.4090606@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to run root cmds when starting xorg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:49:52 -0000 Tore Lund wrote: > The startup script is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0. You may also > want to have a look at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession. This latter > file will call up ~/.xsession, which is where we normally put commands > at the beginning of an X session called up through xdm. What I do in > that file is to call nvidia-settings and display a background image. I > guess ~/.xsession is the right place to put a kldload - this file may be > simply a symlink to .xinitrc (if the setup you want is in this file). Correction: The file where I call nvidia-settings and display a background image is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 03:23:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7E016A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C1D13C474 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1FC1CFF22; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:23:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:23:53 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: qeprXemeZXLNDa6Ae214msAe9aUN9weBAzB+t80y9d+L 1172460233 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492E11122D; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:23:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <002201c75940$1e828e00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org><002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E12693.9050206@hier7.com> <002201c75940$1e828e00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <24FF0A82-FEAB-4407-AA3B-45F0ED079A90@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:23:17 -0600 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:23:54 -0000 On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:50 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > What your talking about only works if you have a large group of > FreeBSD volunteers that are willing to run the torrent servers. > Let's assume that only 0.01% of any population group would step up > to the plate to offer a torrent server. Well I can see a Linux > torrent network working because Linux has an order of magnitude > greater number of users than FreeBSD. But I think you would find > it impossible to recruit something like 1000 FreeBSD users to step > up to the plate and offer a torrent server. The population numbers > just aren't there. I've never used a file sharing system, so my understanding of things is limited, but that won't stop me from voicing opinions. As far as I understand how these things work, if you join a file sharing network for download, you are 95% of the way to setting yourself up as a "server". Remember, it isn't so much as a client/ server set-up as a peer-to-peer setup. There may be plenty of BSD users who already use torrents for other things, and so could easily add sharing of the ISOs. So the participation rate might be substantially larger than 0.01%. > Worse, the initial people that offer the server are going to get > the brunt of the load and you can't give them any guarentee that > your going to be able to recruit future torrent servers to lessen > the work on them. The way this sort of problem is generally solved is to have people make commitments of the form I will do X if at least N other people commit to doing X. Someone has to keep track of those commitments (I'm *not* volunteering) but there is this group participation protocol that has been used by various volunteer organizations with some success. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 04:08:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2425E16A404 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from nlpi012.sbcis.sbc.com (nlpi012.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3DF13C491 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [75.28.101.51] Received: from [192.168.4.2] (adsl-75-28-101-51.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [75.28.101.51]) by nlpi012.sbcis.sbc.com (8.13.8 out.dk.spool/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1Q484c0028636 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:08:07 -0600 Message-ID: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:08:26 -0800 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:08:31 -0000 I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas? -- Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 http://www.chrismaness.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 04:14:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F6A16A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F54913C48E for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from webmail.sonic.net (a.webmail.sonic.net [64.142.100.132]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l1Q4ET6w000456 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:14:29 -0800 Received: from 69.12.157.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user odilist) by webmail.sonic.net with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:14:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12284.69.12.157.6.1172463269.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> In-Reply-To: <20070226003739.BD13116A405@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20070226003739.BD13116A405@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:14:29 -0800 (PST) From: odilist@sonic.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Can't make raid array bootable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:14:29 -0000 Hi, I've tried transferring my system (6.0) to an Nvidia hardware raid array of two SATA drives on an Asus A8N-E motherboard, following the instructions in the FAQ. I can't seem to use fdisk to make the array bootable, or to rewrite the master boot record. It claims to write the information to disk and then, when I check again, nothing has stuck. I have tried fdisk -B -b ar0, boot0cfg -s 1 ar0, boot0cfg -B ar0, and probably many other things in the course of the day, but so far I am rewarded only with: Invalid partition Invalid partition No boot/loader Boot defaults to an ad(0,a) which doesn't exist. Further, diskeditor has just started showing two partitions, one which is the primary of the raid and the other being the array itself. As the raid section of the handbook says "the disk(s) will look like a single drive to FreeBSD," this concerns me. Would anyone have any ideas? Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 04:16:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E4016A406 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D5B13C4B2 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so245608nza for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:16:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fkGEPs94QMIQ1XfJVHtV5bZb8xftYmsY+SndfoBbUlw7wViuuBowMdKK/rp1kXwZ03pLl4N9kituXGBJYYagEpn9dl0FhvGXw563Idw/mbrVwHQjPMQ/UogPzKJ+octzOt4Hi+GksRBhzPvtbSWtYRkqKzwLJwiIdRmcJQ7R9Rg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jjvajISk8AAEPW1fnYtDy4cF0zj6s8om9D9xqy2geRT/Vq+tKxBjsKVbMb2MhCZ5WidAad9o+GcCvBdlzbbY/7w7M16kngQLU1ZhFZTc3y/0hBJbUeIzprOMHTSGjacWddEtJmMFYWsUEYtmW+KdHRCMdkdICoF9EZxoRxdTrcA= Received: by 10.114.25.3 with SMTP id 3mr1957466way.1172463373962; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.95.19 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:16:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:16:13 +1300 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "Chris Maness" In-Reply-To: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:16:15 -0000 On 2/26/07, Chris Maness wrote: > I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great > with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have > Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas? Do you mean Secure Password Authentication or SPA? Don't use that, as it's a Microsoft proprietary authentication method. -- Juha http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 04:21:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9FB16A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from nlpi015.sbcis.sbc.com (nlpi015.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F4613C441 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [75.28.101.51] Received: from [192.168.4.2] (adsl-75-28-101-51.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [75.28.101.51]) by nlpi015.sbcis.sbc.com (8.13.8 out.dk.spool/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1Q4KAG4025325; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:20:13 -0600 Message-ID: <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:21:30 -0800 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juha Saarinen References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:21:38 -0000 Juha Saarinen wrote: > On 2/26/07, Chris Maness wrote: >> I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great >> with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have >> Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas? > > Do you mean Secure Password Authentication or SPA? Don't use that, as > it's a Microsoft proprietary authentication method. > > How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook? Or do I have to go plain text? Thanks, -- Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 http://www.chrismaness.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 05:28:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB86C16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: from dansknet.dk (smtp1.dansknet.dk [85.233.229.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4944913C48D for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: (qmail 13085 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2007 05:29:41 -0000 Received: from 85233230230.switch.dansknet.dk (HELO dansknet.dk) (85.233.230.230) by dansknet.dk with SMTP; 26 Feb 2007 05:29:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:32:26 +0100 From: Rico Secada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070226063226.fbe91fc3.coolzone@io.dk> In-Reply-To: <45E227C8.7010409@next.online.no> References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> <20070226094300.5f40b710@localhost> <45E21B90.7060102@gmail.com> <45E22386.4090606@netscape.net> <45E227C8.7010409@next.online.no> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Quanta+ freezes after upgrading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:28:06 -0000 Hi Since I upgraded KDE to 3.5.5 Quanta+ always freezes when I try to start it up. It doesn't do anything. No errors, just a freeze, and a CPU usage of 97%. Has anyone else experienced problems with Quanta+ since KDE 3.5.5? Best regards. Rico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 03:07:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D650C16A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scphantm@yahoo.com) Received: from web51109.mail.yahoo.com (web51109.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 847F813C467 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scphantm@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 64675 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Feb 2007 02:40:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Jz2NwagXwstLcB1pTyh1EApkZCblDbAeHMdKvkqNxeNSdevCjd/DFpOwumdJ6WPd6J0LHAbfBK4yl8McdBQUFuuWdH+eNs2bUQuwKAbFHziyL7I6xphntVSYsbNFdpw5spHDyXdTl+AX9ZmNFApf40bt1A8RudBeAe+EKl0Bhoo=; X-YMail-OSG: zCjttn8VM1m6s.ksUb9e0NvR4BSw4gqspX1kknhoz1NkympltP_3jpBRyq5zjaiP4cSERGJZt_cerlL0343DJDe1kaT40KZEyRZNTryAISWZXe3DOxTl.LKpszB7egR_.HYbTjYDL8qHyWU- Received: from [72.187.96.230] by web51109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:40:59 PST Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:40:59 -0800 (PST) From: Steel City Phantom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <366266A7-38D4-429B-850E-5DDCE9F22F8D@netmusician.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <409278.63786.qm@web51109.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:36:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: services file question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:07:41 -0000 I have been trying to figure out an issue with my newest bsd server. i am trying to get jboss to run but nothing outside of the local machine can access it. i have been working on this for a while and am completely out of ideas except for one, but i need a little information before i start playing according to tcpdump when another machine goes to ip:8080 to access jboss, the packet does not even reach the box. all i can think of next is the services file. in order for bsd to allow traffic on a specific port, does it have to be listed in the services file? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 05:50:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2221616A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D8B13C478 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id QAA21193; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:49:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:49:46 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20070225182126.GA54901@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Marty Landman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: input/output error on hd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:50:06 -0000 On Sun, 25 Feb 2007, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:01AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > > > On 2/24/07, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > > > > > >Well, I think you are past any label problems now and on to the > > >bad sectors and/or finding superbocks. Although I am not quite clear > > >from above what resulted in the 'INCOMPLETE LABEL...' message. > > > > > > Ok then, can you point me to somewhere that can learn about superblocks and > > give me an idea of what to do next? > > Most of what I figured out several years ago (and have essentially > forgotten since) came from the handbook and something I found by > searching the web that gave the layout of blocks and chains. I would > have to go back searching again. Failing someone who actually knows what they're talking about re UFS structures chipping in to this discussion, all I can offer in addition is what my own exploration of manuals and a bit of googling turned up .. Firstly, Marty, you should run dumpfs(8) on your ad1s1a. With the -m switch, this produces a single line suitable for feeding into newfs with all parameters, and is probably worth saving for all slices in case of any subsequent emergencies. I've just done that for mine, anyway, along with fdisk and boot0cfg -v output, and bsdlabel output for UFS slices. Without the -m switch, feed the output to a file, or less, as it's very voluminous. For a 240GB drive, it'll likely be huge. However the data at the head is probably what's needed, though I can't make much of it. This post by Ian Dowse explains how to compute where the superblocks are, for a quoted example dumpfs: http://noc.caravan.ru/faq/SBLOCK.html Note however that Ian is talking about UFS1 (where the superblock offset was 32) but if you consult fsck_ffs(8) you'll see (under -b) that for UFS2, which you almost certainly would have used, it's at 140 .. I gather that's the offset from the start of each cylinder group? > > Also assuming my bad sectors really are > > totally bad, wouldn't fsck allow me to mark them as unusable and move on? > > No, fsck does not do that. Marking blocks bad happend below the > level of the OS - generally in the disk controller itself. It remaps > sectors until it runs out of spares and when it runs out, it starts > reporting unrecoverable errors. This is not even reported to the OS > until it runs out of spares. > > The only thing you can do with those bad sectors is to try and figure > out if any of them are superblocks. If they are, you can probably > rebuild it from other superblock clones. If it is not, it is probably > lost data. In that case try to overwrite the bad sector. If that > works, then the sector itself is OK, but the data that was there is > gone. If it doesn't work, then it is bad and there is a good chance > that more than data got nuked in the power failure - eg, it damaged > the disk or controller in some way. Seeing if fsck_ffs will use any discovered alternate superblocks would be the first step, and if so, whether that helps to get it mounted. I'd certainly be careful to mount it read-only before trying data recovery! Since Marty has already been bravely using dd :) rewriting those sectors should be easy enough, bearing in mind the apparent off-by-one numbering difference between the sectors dd found bad and those fsck reported bad. > But, the next thing seems to be learning about how to follow the file > chains and how to find and read and write superblocks. Alternatively > you can decide it isn't worth the effort to recover and try and write > over the drive completely - just totally trash it - and see if those > bad sectors will write. If you did that, then you would have to rebuild > the slice and partition table and do a newfs before you could again > use the drive and everything previously on it would be lost. Well if a dd rewriting those specific contiguous sectors failed, I doubt that newfs would do any better, so the dd is definitely worth a try, but I wouldn't write anything further to the fs until all else has failed. > Good luck. I can only echo that, again. > Maybe someone who has some experience in tracking file chains can > respond and give you more helpp than can I. Ditto for that .. I'm now very thoroughly out of my depth here, though I've learned a few new things through the exercise. Maybe mailing Ian Dowse with circumstances and the dumpfs head might be worth a try, Marty? See the website committers' page for his address. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 06:16:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0482416A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@trancegeek.net) Received: from jet14.hasweb.com (jet14.hasweb.com [72.29.75.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0ABD13C4A7 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@trancegeek.net) Received: from pool-70-22-180-230.bos.east.verizon.net ([70.22.180.230] helo=[192.168.1.33]) by jet14.hasweb.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HLYTc-0007mK-FA; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:32:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <45E2319E.8050202@joeholden.co.uk> References: <45E0F697.2030005@allcaps.org><002001c758a1$a3ed10f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E12693.9050206@hier7.com> <002201c75940$1e828e00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E2319E.8050202@joeholden.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8FE0A5DF-BA05-46BE-8E5A-E469FD36BD37@trancegeek.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Thomas Norris Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:32:03 -0500 To: Joe Holden X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet14.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trancegeek.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Chris Slothouber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:16:00 -0000 On Feb 25, 2007, at 8:02 PM, Joe Holden wrote: > < huge quote tree> > I would be happy to host torrents.freebsd.org (aswell as the > tracker and torrents themselves)if no one else has offered. > > Ta, > Joe I'm willing to seed from my 10mbit pipe at a datacenter and at home if you do. -- Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 06:20:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1631416A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C538013C441 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1169037wxc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:20:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=iRtTsSrIJzY4Aqiy+bGgiQzKF1jllyfq6/h7CaPz1GCtdKF99Zv/eOEealp1JRHjArqxQMC8wLJ5Aqtf05UCj6exMjFFM/N5jo5DzqmjTpruRkfD+NljSEeHHIBgpA8rtnFxbL7o2gkfF6t4pCtPlWDwThSythh7yqN2WGKItAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=BgD5jJOE9WYqwpInmFtmcdiqIC06WyTdVlmLP2D+2sAoabzBuSQnLYcPeM4plkjG7HBi/yOu57LxbuAmVfajSUAyCTA4TbhFe/N2MSx3SlfjTBUgLEJo60PRrXf7SbghJDWZGP1IhkkNoj8gH6+Yhf946YndyENIrc+WKRIqAuY= Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr1981217wae.1172470825891; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.7 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:20:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <499c70c0702252220h3ff71efoa3e4838df8177af9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:20:25 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: ale@FreeBSD.org Subject: PHP 5.2.1 and the hard time with vbulletin 3.6.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:20:27 -0000 Hello, I just used portupgrade -f last night. Here is the error I got when I upgrade to PHP 5.2.1_2 when I try to log to the admin Area. Warning: preg_replace() [function.preg-replace]: Compilation failed: lookbehind assertion is not fixed length at offset 13 in /includes/functions_login.php on line 40 Here when I try to go to advanced reply. Warning: preg_replace() [function.preg-replace]: Compilation failed: lookbehind assertion is not fixed length at offset 8 in /includes/functions_wysiwyg.php on line 149 Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 90 seconds exceeded in /usr/home/bbwww/www/includes/functions_wysiwyg.php on line 189 I'm using FreeBSD 6.2, Apache 2.3.4, and PHP 5.2.1_2 Thanks in advance for your kind help. PS: could someone give the syntax to use portdowngrade to to downgrade PHP to PHP 5.2.0 date 20 Jan 2007 09:17:33 -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 06:40:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C5116A401; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621D213C4A7; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AE97E8D6; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:40:08 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6lrhAfwiEUTt; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED58C7E8D4; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:40:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org><200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> <228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org> <003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:39:49 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , Kip Macy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:40:10 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Auty" > To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" > Cc: "Kip Macy" ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:14 AM > Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > > >> >> Any idea how this could have happened after disabling everything in >> my /etc/loader.conf, and simply running a: >> >> make buildworld >> make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconfig >> make installkernel KERNCONF=myconfig >> > > well your supposed to do this single-user, run mergemaster and a > few other > things. > I also don't see a make installworld. > I usually perform those steps after I've rebooted to ensure that my system will boot off the new kernel, as per the instructions in the FreeBSD handbook. > Joe, please try booting from a 6.2-release install ISO. If it > works without > panicing, > then you did something wrong during the upgrade. > Downloading the image now, I'll let you know if I'm able to boot from it... > Since by your own admission your not an expert, you would be well > advised > to simply back up your files the old fashioned way, reformat your > hard disk, > install from a 6.2 boot ISO, then restore your files. Leave the fancy > in-place > updating to someone else. It's a big PIA and doesen't work half > the time > anyway. > How well does simply upgrading with the CD work (as opposed to wiping clean)? I've upgraded several times to new releases simply by rebuilding world, it has never failed me in the past. I don't doubt what you are saying here, but since I will have to change how I work, assuming that I can boot off of the 6.2 CD, I'd appreciate any general upgrade tips that don't involve wiping the disk clean (which is not really an option). For instance, is rebuilding world between point releases (e.g. 5.4 to 5.5) an okay idea, compared to across major releases (e.g. 5.5 to 6.2)? I'll do my own homework regarding this too, but I appreciate any nuggets of wisdom you might have! As far as me being an expert, I guess I'd categorize me somewhere in between complete newb and FreeBSD developer =) Thanks again! - ----------- Joe Auty NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians http://www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4oC3CgdfeCwsL5ERAj3vAJ9bMYSj33hg/jU5jU6RyIjXqJ/YLwCfVumh FsunyXJGMjXHEHKso7xWzcI= =0p6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 06:40:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6231616A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B0313C47E for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so740560ana for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:40:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uAYvr0JY8LPWrnVKyEZlNyg6iuIbQ7OcYKighnTQcUbDoWJq1kbQnCw4xjHLTkMiryOTEu63dK+XyB2m1BK1oedAaeeaexKfwtJ3fpRAQwTxZGR80Xfr8koUtzDdJ1TkgcVRCjYNlJDL1n0EcvaumsGlQg2cGDaWXyp/xsMDR2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QYeQrwD/BI9bnX4b7BccPI2kU7Vq9preQEe7G+KicLkY71Jwd9WNCOw3AR2kY/izla+8ftH3wddKeggOmpYSXYFM8Yn/sQ8Mk2C6zpb8C5IJ6RgoOhpk8K/l0Y6SRHLEDnTL/t/dO5Dc0YsbRVvyiBnytEqPKDJkp6WCbVelXds= Received: by 10.114.25.3 with SMTP id 3mr1210093way.1172472047519; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.95.19 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:40:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:40:47 +1300 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "Chris Maness" In-Reply-To: <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:40:49 -0000 On 2/26/07, Chris Maness wrote: > How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook? Or do I have to go > plain text? Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box. -- Juha http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 06:42:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC1E16A407; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022C713C49D; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6F97E8DA; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:42:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WqM+6+Uyin7V; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A217E8D8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:42:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <499c70c0702252220h3ff71efoa3e4838df8177af9@mail.gmail.com> References: <499c70c0702252220h3ff71efoa3e4838df8177af9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:42:30 -0500 To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , ale@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PHP 5.2.1 and the hard time with vbulletin 3.6.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:42:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Have you recompiled all PHP extensions too? I believe the php5-pcre extension might handle perl regular expressions (preg_replace) in PHP. On Feb 26, 2007, at 1:20 AM, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > Hello, > > I just used portupgrade -f last night. > > Here is the error I got when I upgrade to PHP 5.2.1_2 when I try to > log to the admin Area. > > Warning: preg_replace() [function.preg-replace]: Compilation failed: > lookbehind assertion is not fixed length at offset 13 in > /includes/functions_login.php on line 40 > > Here when I try to go to advanced reply. > > Warning: preg_replace() [function.preg-replace]: Compilation failed: > lookbehind assertion is not fixed length at offset 8 in > /includes/functions_wysiwyg.php on line 149 > > Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 90 seconds exceeded in > /usr/home/bbwww/www/includes/functions_wysiwyg.php on line 189 > > I'm using FreeBSD 6.2, Apache 2.3.4, and PHP 5.2.1_2 > > Thanks in advance for your kind help. > > PS: could someone give the syntax to use portdowngrade to to downgrade > PHP to PHP 5.2.0 date 20 Jan 2007 09:17:33 > -- > Regards, > > -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > Arab Portal > http://www.WeArab.Net/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4oFWCgdfeCwsL5ERAqkYAJsFZPwC2dejb5ba2+4+PKG7LIzXhQCfZog9 I2X7Grc/l3c2WwWDO/flvYQ= =ERCu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 07:09:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B7216A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E158813C46B for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.23]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JE200GXV6HQKM90@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:08:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml9so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.7]) by pd3mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JE200LAE6HPJ001@pd3mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:08:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from s01060014bf5ee711.vs.shawcable.net ([70.71.14.48]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JE200DSV6HPENF0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:08:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:08:24 -0800 From: Andriy Babiy In-reply-to: <20070225225007.GA92099@xs3.xs4all.nl> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200702252308.25010.ABabiy@shaw.ca> Organization: home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200702251318.02997.ABabiy@shaw.ca> <20070225225007.GA92099@xs3.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 Cc: Martin Tournoij Subject: Re: ffmpeg build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:09:45 -0000 On Sunday 25 February 2007 14:50, you wrote: > On Sun 25 Feb 2007 13:02, Andriy Babiy wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > Is anyone else experiencing this problem? What can I do to avoid it? > > Thank you very much in advance for advices. > > > > Andriy > > > > ==================== > > S01060014bf5ee711# uname -a > > FreeBSD S01060014bf5ee711 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb > > 22 00:43:46 PST 2007 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KRNSTABLE amd64 > > > > ================== > > gmake[1]: Entering directory > > `/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavformat' > > cc -O3 -Wall -fPIC -DPIC -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include > > -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-unit-at-a-time -I.. > > -I/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1 > > -I/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavcodec > > -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE > > -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o audio.o audio.c > > audio.c:24:27: sys/soundcard.h: No such file or directory > > audio.c: In function `audio_open': > > audio.c:81: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_GETFMTS' undeclared (first use in this > > function) > > audio.c:81: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > audio.c:81: error: for each function it appears in.) > > audio.c:92: error: `AFMT_S16_LE' undeclared (first use in this > > function) audio.c:94: error: `AFMT_S16_BE' undeclared (first use in > > this function) audio.c:113: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT' undeclared > > (first use in this function) > > audio.c:120: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO' undeclared (first use in this > > function) > > audio.c:129: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED' undeclared (first use in this > > function) > > audio.c: In function `audio_read_packet': > > audio.c:243: error: storage size of 'abufi' isn't known > > audio.c:279: error: `SNDCTL_DSP_GETISPACE' undeclared (first use in > > this function) > > audio.c:243: warning: unused variable `abufi' > > gmake[1]: *** [audio.o] Error 1 > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/work/ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/libavformat' > > gmake: *** [lib] Error 2 > > *** Error code 2 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. > > ffmpeg can't find /usr/include/sys/soundcard.h > Did you delete /usr/include? > > You can extract the 6.2 base tarball into annother directory (for > example /usr/base) and then copy /usr/base/usr/include to > /usr/include. > > Or you can copy the files from the freebsd source... Thanks Martin. I found the header file in /usr/src/sys/sys directory. Actually, the content of the folders looks the same. I'm not sure why the file was missing in the /usr/include/sys. Anyway, the problem has gone. Everything compiles just fine. Andriy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 07:18:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6430816A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2709013C481 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost.esiee.fr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id B51143658C6; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:18:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726FA3658C0; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:18:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (chs77-1-82-238-8-126.fbx.proxad.net [82.238.8.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE40C3991B; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:09:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E289B1.6050006@esiee.fr> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:18:09 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <45DD84C1.70308@esiee.fr> <45DEC4D9.5070709@esiee.fr> <68F79BFB-1B31-4D69-95D8-E5B51C49D60E@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <68F79BFB-1B31-4D69-95D8-E5B51C49D60E@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Transparent redirect to another interface ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:18:13 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 23, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: >>> You can do other things, such as using ng_fec to perform "port >>> trunking", or using IPFW or some other thing to manually force >>> traffic out of the other interface, but it's unlikely to result in >>> much benefit. >>> >> Thanks for the infos , I'll try the port trunking if it is compatible >> with Cisco switches ? > > FEC is Cisco's protocol, yes. > > I don't have much input about the problem you have recompiling ng_fec, > except that you might need to recompile the entire kernel and not just a > single module, especially if you've updated your source tree... > > ---Chuck > OK but I tried on a I386 machine that update its source tree every day, it works without recompiling the kernel entire kernel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 08:16:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6389416A494 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4270013C4BA for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id l1Q8GPhT099669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id l1Q8GOio099668; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 ([192.168.200.61]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA23127; Mon, 26 Feb 07 00:11:45 PST Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:12:58 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: juhasaarinen@gmail.com, chris@chrismaness.com Message-Id: <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:16:37 -0000 > > How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook? > > Or do I have to go plain text? > > Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe > Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box. *Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than plain-text passwords can be made to work. My answer is "Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period." but the OP may be stuck with it for some reason. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 08:55:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D83216A406 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD8913C467 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so659790ugh for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:55:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pBOcJN/0ayJY+zIMCaRIcN2Zu1SiML+sjI7KZF+KhEE5CHfDp7OlqMlHK8Obv7lwV0xyaVG+XYa6aq8aMCg0te9JDxEWb+2p5VE0P+7Yj+kOeRo3vi9wEM65vETmDzsTECgQUgnvc+nyks8SG4Qmf7+LGZhQaetoF3XghU15DoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h3OdXgUJes0HbfTzjJty2Okvi/wC90YLNo9Zu8XzG24IJJti5sljR3m62kpp4CTz5v9HT3/Nn02mL92Wy7zjTR+irmOSHR64oNN3SepDIJaK57HE8UiXka7cxNAHycMTMv7DOb56Qpg0Z7bzfbo5zugYeFCx5sYnr7zTrFiZ6WQ= Received: by 10.114.58.1 with SMTP id g1mr821132waa.1172480145191; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:55:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.95.19 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:55:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:55:45 +1300 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "perryh@pluto.rain.com" In-Reply-To: <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Cc: chris@chrismaness.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:55:47 -0000 On 2/26/07, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > *Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook > for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than > plain-text passwords can be made to work. Uh, OK. > My answer is "Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period." > but the OP may be stuck with it for some reason. Outlook supports SSL and TLS for both IMAP and SMTP if makes a difference, plus AUTH but I'm not sure if it sets up a tunnel before sending the plain-text password. Googling seems to indicate otherwise, but perhaps someone better versed in Outlook can say for sure? -- Juha http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 09:17:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B053316A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesoff@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F1D13C4B3 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesoff@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so663241ugh for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:17:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Oc8j69BqW/aO37YXAXSXs8N/T3lu3+2tQ3u0QgUUBCD5fd6+SREKlNGmRTKCH2odyD1l0gNMO7A0UHflkyQ6G7M9bVe18ocNsi/6o3gaL7lfp0qvXwbIgwUYPnCsrP0HF4DP7bgGKqpC4STifpfHN1kItC4IcUOGUpi9RjrnT/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OgEew5qGFK/6nXOB0wbqPoKTfMniP3W8afwYAtYFccpGkJXcBcWoay41HZKiisHCWwOEw95rq5TGi27L0yuc4nCEPwT79c7xWlP/3CQ+ccg3nWTEWvUeQQS2Gt94FNVEB2ebo+f1CFPdsxRci6pUco/2s8yEx6hL/ttRBrisI4o= Received: by 10.114.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr2011725wac.1172479937432; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.149.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:52:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <720051dc0702260052v8e4d2b2v9bbca164bfe87a4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:52:17 +0000 From: "James Seward" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200702252202.l1PM2r46003312@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200702252202.l1PM2r46003312@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> Subject: Re: pf and keep/modulate state on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:17:31 -0000 On 2/25/07, J.D. Bronson wrote: > I was noticing sporadic FTP transfers DOWN to my fbsd 6.2 machine > over my DSL line...it would go/pause/go/pause - just a bit, but > overall slowed the transfers down quite a bit. > > I looked at my pf.conf file and changed MODULATE state to KEEP state > in all places and my issues went away....fast clean consistent downloads. Wow, this fixed my FTP-over-DSL-to-6.2 problem too. With modulate state, I was getting ~30K/sec. With just keep state, I'm now getting more like what my connection is capable of. This is between two 6.2 hosts on opposite sides of the Atlantic. Ted, I use pf because I like the format of the configuration file, I like the logging and pftop, and like how it's harder to lock yourself out of a remote machine by accident :) /JMS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 09:23:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD9616A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DEC13C467 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFEA1CA744; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:03:42 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:25:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <5d2f37910702250333u282334f4s2865ad3b50ef4042@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5d2f37910702250333u282334f4s2865ad3b50ef4042@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702261125.16649.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Curby Subject: Re: ipfw questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:23:13 -0000 On Sunday 25 February 2007 13:33, Curby wrote: > I'm using IPFW2 on a Mac, but hopefully these questions are general > enough for this list. > > First, is there any reason not to prefer "from any to any" over "from > any to me" when adding rules to allow access to local services? Some > ipfw configurations I've found use "from any to any," which doesn't > seem bad except that it's unnecessarily general. > Firewalls also protect networks and not just single computers. These rules are quite generic. A "deny ip from any to any" would be a good default for a firewall and so it is by default: from ipfw man: An ipfw ruleset always includes a default rule (numbered 65535) which cannot be modified or deleted, and matches all packets. The action asso- ciated with the default rule can be either deny or allow depending on how the kernel is configured. Most ready-to-use rulesets will have such generalizations. It's not much of a difference, you can't say they are wrong and since you know exactly what you want to achieve, it's up to you to change them to fit perfectly your situation... > Also, there's a verrevpath option but Apple's default ruleset still > uses the following: > > deny log ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in > deny log ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 in > deny log ip from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in > deny log tcp from any to 224.0.0.0/3 in > > Is it correct that verrevpath should make these redundant/obsolete? > deny log ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in > deny log ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 in I don't know about Mac but on FreeBSD they are redundant anyway. The TCP/IP stack denies packets from/to 127/8 coming from a wire, and it also denies sending packets to/from 127/8 down to a wire. > deny log ip from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in A 224/4 source address is just not valid. The rest (240/4) is reserved for future use. > deny log tcp from any to 224.0.0.0/3 in Also, it's not possible to multicast TCP(224/4). Since 240/4 is reserved for future I would say they are invalid too. So, these rules protect weak TCP/IP stacks. They are filtering what is already invalid. > It'd be nice to have one rule instead of 4, but I'm wondering why > Apple isn't using its own supported features. Thanks! I would feel safe without such firewall rules on a personal FreeBSD box. Also if you don't feel safe, remember that ipfw comes with a "deny ip from any to any" rule by default. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 09:46:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC02416A417 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jean.Chiappini@virtua.ch) Received: from tornado.virtua.ch (tornado.virtua.ch [217.119.144.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7610A13C478 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jean.Chiappini@virtua.ch) Received: from tornado.virtua.ch (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tornado.virtua.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149C32D2A33 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:28:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from albator.aubonne.virtua.ch (albator.aubonne.virtua.ch [192.168.1.2]) by tornado.virtua.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2752D2A32 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:28:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.30] (unknown [192.168.1.30]) by albator.aubonne.virtua.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53BA73583 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:28:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E2A841.6050700@virtua.ch> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:28:33 +0100 From: Jean Chiappini User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problem accentued and special character freeBSD 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:46:58 -0000 Hello, I have a problem with the accentued and special characters. When I set the variable environnement with fr_FR.IOS8859-1 or fr_CH.ISO8859-1 or If I set these charsets in the /etc/cshrc.login. The normal character work great, but when I try to use an accentued character in my terminal or in my mysql DB, by example 'é', the character 'a' appear in the place of all accentued characters... I use the swiss french accentued keyboard in my rc.conf. I don't need these characters in console, but I need it in my MySQL. I have also tried to set latin1 and utf-8 charset in my.cnf, but the problem is the same. Could someone help me with this strange problem pleae ? Regards Jean -- *Jean Chiappini * network services *virtua SA* interactive communication agency En Clamogne 27 CH -1170 Aubonne T. +41 21 821 15 20 F. +41 21 821 15 21 *www.virtua.ch* | from internet to business® | *·* *·* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 10:49:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9215F16A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18BD013C48D for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 26737 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2007 10:49:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=VtKgZD9/gw+yIXOIM8VEmAnkMZ3DphIy9pv1pktpfdsRtrWaQZEuenl2RTlnF9jmCeDfykzeO5kuj3nnw/nGK03WImpkxzEAxYEwhWJrgfAtSoy03e4nGwQ7onOXbu2es5d9GiC+QS09dh4Rbz92UY/yWYQiQ5ZesoqqjtQDtYI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@74.104.205.212 with login) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2007 10:49:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: wfx2e68VM1n1fY1Z1Lte0oQXIGcCb_QSdXSYJ4RJ4OfNsSWV7urvcvo.wZP4OSlN2g-- From: "Tamouh H." To: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:49:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0889_01C75969.E1DA80A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcdZk8pNWL1oxmKET/ucskbblsOYUQ== Message-Id: <20070226104921.18BD013C48D@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Weird system hanging problem with crypted video output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:49:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0889_01C75969.E1DA80A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have had this server running for 6 months now with no problems. Just = today I've noticed the system began to freeze or hang with weird things = on the console (attached gif file). The system is running FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200609 i386 with 2GB DDR RAM = (Kingston) and 2.8GHz CPU There are no errors in any logs. I've checked couple of things: 1) Power supply appears working ok (which I'm suspecting is going bad)=20 2) Motherboard is Intel D865GVHZ 3) I've noticed the CPU temperature was close to 59 C and M/B to 42 C 4) This is running on Promise RAID controller which says the RAID is = functional fine. 5) No previous problems, reboots until now. Any suggestions or experiences with this type of freeze ? Could it be a = bad on-board video on the motherboard ? Thanks, Tamouh Hakmi ------=_NextPart_000_0889_01C75969.E1DA80A0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 11:34:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41B116A407 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rostyslav@optonline.net) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30F613C4B6 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rostyslav@optonline.net) Received: from ool-18bb9d56.dyn.optonline.net (ool-18bb9d56.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.157.86]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JE20061LHF07DQ0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:04:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:04:11 +0000 From: Charlie & Root To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200702261104.12155.rostyslav@optonline.net> Organization: home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 Cc: Subject: microphone and FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:34:13 -0000 the microphone does not work at all dev.pcm.0.%desc: ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller dev.pcm.0.%driver: pcm dev.pcm.0.%location: slot=20 function=2 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.AZAL dev.pcm.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x1002 device=0x437b subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0xd60 1 class=0x040300 dev.pcm.0.%parent: pci0 dev.pcm.0.wake: 0 dev.pcm.0.buffersize: 16384 dev.pcm.0.vchans: 4 dev.pcm.0.vchanrate: 48000 dev.pcm.0.vchanformat: s16le dev.pcm.0.polling: 0 Mixer vol is currently set to 76:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 69:69 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 84:84 Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 Mixer rec is currently set to 86:86 Recording source: vol pcm0: pcm0: pcm0: unregister: channel pcm0:virtual:0:dsp0.v0 busy (pid 929) Help me please. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 11:44:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CD716A407 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C731E13C441 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1QBiGGv089531; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:44:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1QBiF1h089528; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:44:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:44:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <45E215D4.9040801@u.washington.edu> Message-ID: <20070226124252.H89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070225235522.A14310@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E215D4.9040801@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: databases/clip doesn't build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:44:17 -0000 >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/databases/clip. >> [root@chylonia /usr/ports/databases/clip]# exit >> >> Script done on Sun Feb 25 23:57:04 2007 > > Basically it (gcc/gmake) are looking for headers / definitions that don't > exist in the included files. > > Please submit the information included above and the configuration script > output to the port maintainer. > -Garrett already did http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=109485 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 11:46:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7188516A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A7E13C49D for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1QBkcNd089773; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:46:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1QBkbZ5089770; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:46:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:46:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Chris Maness In-Reply-To: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> Message-ID: <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:46:47 -0000 > I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great with what's the default FreeBSD IMAP server? i don't remember IMAP in base FreeBSD distro? > thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have Secure > Authentication checked. Any ideas? no idea. with dovecot all imap clients work, both with and without ssl. anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap. simply don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 11:48:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8011E16A407 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA1D13C474 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1QBmWFx089934; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:48:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1QBmUo7089920; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:48:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:48:30 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: juhasaarinen@gmail.com, chris@chrismaness.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:48:35 -0000 > *Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook > for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than > plain-text passwords can be made to work. > > My answer is "Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period." as my answer. i have ca 500 users in my networks (mostly one), outlook users always have "problems", and i always answer that they like problems and use outlook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 11:59:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B158816A414 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF9813C4A3 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from adsl-69-210-44-126.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net ([69.210.44.126] helo=cheyenne.sixcompanies.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HLeVV-000HCL-H1; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:59:05 -0500 Received: from dakota.sixcompanies.com (cheyenne.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.170]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1QBx46X006755; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:59:04 -0600 (CST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 69.210.44.126 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: lonebandit Message-Id: <200702261159.l1QBx46X006755@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:59:58 -0600 To: "James Seward" From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <720051dc0702260052v8e4d2b2v9bbca164bfe87a4b@mail.gmail.com > References: <200702252202.l1PM2r46003312@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <720051dc0702260052v8e4d2b2v9bbca164bfe87a4b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf and keep/modulate state on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:59:06 -0000 At 02:52 AM 02/26/2007, you wrote: >Wow, this fixed my FTP-over-DSL-to-6.2 problem too. With modulate >state, I was getting ~30K/sec. With just keep state, I'm now getting >more like what my connection is capable of. This is between two 6.2 >hosts on opposite sides of the Atlantic. > >Ted, I use pf because I like the format of the configuration file, I >like the logging and pftop, and like how it's harder to lock yourself >out of a remote machine by accident :) > >/JMS I use pf since its newer (I think?) and I came from openbsd..pf just works and the config file is nice and sweet. I had thought that modulate state would put a load on my proc, but sheesh, its a p4-3.06 - thats more than robust for a router. I wonder if we should file a bug on this? I am glad my post helped here. I still use modulate state for any INCOMING connections though (www/smtp/etc). -JD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 13:02:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A5716A402; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFBC13C4A8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1QD2mZH026250; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:02:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Joe Auty" References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org><200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net><228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org><003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:01:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:02:52 -0800 (PST) Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , Kip Macy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:02:54 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Auty" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" ; "Kip Macy" ; ; Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:39 PM Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Auty" > > To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" > > Cc: "Kip Macy" ; ; > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:14 AM > > Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > > > > > >> > >> Any idea how this could have happened after disabling everything in > >> my /etc/loader.conf, and simply running a: > >> > >> make buildworld > >> make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconfig > >> make installkernel KERNCONF=myconfig > >> > > > > well your supposed to do this single-user, run mergemaster and a > > few other > > things. > > I also don't see a make installworld. > > > > I usually perform those steps after I've rebooted to ensure that my > system will boot off the new kernel, as per the instructions in the > FreeBSD handbook. > > > Joe, please try booting from a 6.2-release install ISO. If it > > works without > > panicing, > > then you did something wrong during the upgrade. > > > > Downloading the image now, I'll let you know if I'm able to boot from > it... > > > Since by your own admission your not an expert, you would be well > > advised > > to simply back up your files the old fashioned way, reformat your > > hard disk, > > install from a 6.2 boot ISO, then restore your files. Leave the fancy > > in-place > > updating to someone else. It's a big PIA and doesen't work half > > the time > > anyway. > > > > > How well does simply upgrading with the CD work (as opposed to wiping > clean)? I've upgraded several times to new releases simply by > rebuilding world, it has never failed me in the past. I don't doubt > what you are saying here, but since I will have to change how I work, > assuming that I can boot off of the 6.2 CD, I'd appreciate any > general upgrade tips that don't involve wiping the disk clean (which > is not really an option). > If wiping the disk really isn't an option then you have one or more of the following problems: 1) Production system with a lack of hardware spares 2) inadequate backup plan and execution. People who state that wiping the disk isn't an option are screaming at the top of their lungs for the hardware gremlins to explain what MTBF is all about. The gremlins will visit you, I guarentee. And they always pick the very best times for it too. I just hope (if this is your workplace) that your job survives. > For instance, is rebuilding world between point releases (e.g. 5.4 to > 5.5) an okay idea, compared to across major releases (e.g. 5.5 to 6.2)? > > > I'll do my own homework regarding this too, but I appreciate any > nuggets of wisdom you might have! As far as me being an expert, I > guess I'd categorize me somewhere in between complete newb and > FreeBSD developer =) > The problem is that all of the ports and packages that you put on a server change from release to release. The developers of openssl, for example, don't give a tinkers damn about how FreeBSD's upgrade process works, when they are making changes in their code. I run a number of FreeBSD servers and what I do is simply keep them patched with security updates. Every once in a while a security hole will be discovered in a non-core program and if it's serious enough I'll go into the port and do a "make deinstall" followed by downloading and compiling the program the "old fashioned way" I shoot for a min of 3 years on the OS before even thinking about updating, and when it's time to update the hardware has generally reached the old rag stage anyway. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 13:28:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B352616A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justinsc@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED01513C494 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justinsc@xs4all.nl) Received: from dekolonel (justnosweat.net [80.126.252.247] (may be forged)) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1QDS3HG025495 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:28:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from justinsc@xs4all.nl) From: "justinsc" To: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:27:48 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c759f5$5907ee20$0e32a8c0@dekolonel> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:28:10 -0000 I get a messages from mx1.freebsd.org: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [80.126.252.247] Seems that the soa file of justnosweat.net is not on the dns server, I get the root server. I did a dig on the name server of freebsd dig @NS1.IAFRICA.COM justnosweat.net any. What`s the problem???? ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> @NS1.IAFRICA.COM justnosweat.net any ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20111 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 14 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;justnosweat.net. IN ANY ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: net. 164187 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net. net. 164187 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: f.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.35.51.30 k.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.52.178.30 g.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.42.93.30 d.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.31.80.30 b.gtld-servers.net. 147749 IN A 192.33.14.30 j.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.48.79.30 e.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.12.94.30 m.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.55.83.30 h.gtld-servers.net. 147749 IN A 192.54.112.30 l.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.41.162.30 c.gtld-servers.net. 147749 IN A 192.26.92.30 i.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.43.172.30 a.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.5.6.30 b.gtld-servers.net. 147749 IN AAAA 2001:503:231d::2:30 ;; Query time: 397 msec ;; SERVER: 196.7.0.139#53(196.7.0.139) ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 26 13:34:01 2007 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 490 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 13:33:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D0F16A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from lon-mail-1.gradwell.net (lon-mail-1.gradwell.net [193.111.201.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B88213C471 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from lon-mail-1.gradwell.net ([193.111.201.125] helo=webmaker country=GB ident=dave&pop3^dgmm*net) by lon-mail-1.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.243) id 45e2e192.135b2.447 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:33:06 +0000 (envelope-sender ) From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:33:02 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> <45E227C8.7010409@next.online.no> <20070226063226.fbe91fc3.coolzone@io.dk> In-Reply-To: <20070226063226.fbe91fc3.coolzone@io.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702261333.03090.freebsd01@dgmm.net> Subject: Re: Quanta+ freezes after upgrading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:33:09 -0000 On Monday 26 February 2007 05:32, Rico Secada wrote: > Since I upgraded KDE to 3.5.5 Quanta+ always freezes when I try to start it > up. It doesn't do anything. No errors, just a freeze, and a CPU usage of > 97%. > > Has anyone else experienced problems with Quanta+ since KDE 3.5.5? No, as I've not upgraded yet, but to help those who might be able to help you, open a shell window and run quanta from there so you can see all the output as the program loads up. Odds are you'll see it stuck in a loop of some kind looking for files or trying to find backups. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 13:40:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED3016A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F0413C4AA for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BE451983 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:40:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:40:11 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070226134011.6a676af7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <200702261159.l1QBx46X006755@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> References: <200702252202.l1PM2r46003312@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <720051dc0702260052v8e4d2b2v9bbca164bfe87a4b@mail.gmail.com> <200702261159.l1QBx46X006755@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pf and keep/modulate state on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:40:19 -0000 On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:59:58 -0600 "J.D. Bronson" wrote: > At 02:52 AM 02/26/2007, you wrote: > >Wow, this fixed my FTP-over-DSL-to-6.2 problem too. With modulate > >state, I was getting ~30K/sec. With just keep state, I'm now getting > >more like what my connection is capable of. This is between two 6.2 > >hosts on opposite sides of the Atlantic. > > > >Ted, I use pf because I like the format of the configuration file, I > >like the logging and pftop, and like how it's harder to lock yourself > >out of a remote machine by accident :) > > > >/JMS > > I use pf since its newer (I think?) and I came from openbsd..pf just > works and the config file is nice and sweet. > > I had thought that modulate state would put a load on my proc, but > sheesh, its a p4-3.06 - thats more than robust for a router. > > I wonder if we should file a bug on this? > > I am glad my post helped here. I still use modulate state for any > INCOMING connections though (www/smtp/etc). I wonder how much point there is in using "modulate" these days. The ISN vulnerabilties it protects against were fixed a long time ago - we're talking about unpatched Windows NT/9X machines and the like. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 14:11:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E8B16A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifact.one@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C341A13C491 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifact.one@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so724335ugh for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:11:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HyHG7Uq9PMMjN+CrHfzVQPimoh0xzHuPYRKADuB93fMsLbBxKTP/S7fi3lY0c5nLx0idDuLL0sOgfiMqQVIWXcSGM4RMpOa456ztHp9973wuPfMrzlcwZnzyowImU+W5jfGQ1BmbKjovach3s8WcGeFIeaR667A2/9P/Y2wj5s8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=o5WUmpkCp2bwKm29XrUr+cotTyv+yyYXyWuq9WJt3Vtky3kuTdBJ72LDFktPgrOFaUSOQZh/0Fl2su+7LBN2+qNQTkuq/ZVdbv3q1kZBn7jhxfmsvEKVBXFyXacL4BlokqSP8ZuEU53Jpc6zvPf5N0kTLIJYj+zbS74lFP2xDPY= Received: by 10.78.170.17 with SMTP id s17mr188832hue.1172497370689; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.153.5 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:42:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8e96a0b90702260542q18672744m153b4363fb3b4f2e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:42:50 +0000 From: "mal content" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Having trouble with viewvc package. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:22 -0000 Hi. I'm trying to create a binary package of viewvc that can be installed on my web server. The port, however, seems to create a package with the wrong dependency information. I've tried various combinations of 'make package' and 'make package- recursive' but I always end up with a package that does this: # pkg_add viewvc* pkg_add: could not find package python24-2.4.3_3 ! pkg_add: could not find package gdbm-1.8.3_3 ! pkg_add: could not find package apr-db42-1.2.7_1 ! pkg_add: could not find package python24-2.4.3_3 ! pkg_add: could not find package gdbm-1.8.3_3 ! pkg_add: could not find package apr-db42-1.2.7_1 ! pkg_add: autoload of dependency '/home/mc/subversion-python-1.4.3.tbz' failed! Basically, it looks like the wrong packages are created. Where I should get 'apr-db42', I actually get 'apr-db42-gdbm' or something similar, which pkg_add then refuses to use. I've tried forcing with the '-f' flag, but I don't like the potential future consequences of doing that, I'd like it to work properly... any ideas? MC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 14:15:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E00116A409 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE4913C4B6 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so822643ana for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:15:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=k57c2JAaVtPclgD+ootR0N2QMTfi/seTfG7Tf6YTV7jJnPtvdppo0cb4mf2RQUNhtd1AyvK5OMGUJtgRWBgSIkCoo4qhY/qWCYcSH31wOVAWSDl+SB4Urv2S0Dm9QLioW2Po1u5pLZnrN1Kv7sANIGox/85ile36iyBsB3xUIGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=melg9WyJsBtj86r3O2qlLk9ogSbvcsHhH7nXo3vC6ljF5SJ9kX+KnLzZsWtHrCAKOW0OTQZT3qngCNHaAe4y140PfM3hwE6liT0lm1ZtXIt+riFOXwr6Y5iWJXJUgAY+UeWGaTKf/zoRx/95/HTDe4Fysj0WDm7SfXi3VS9Dg0I= Received: by 10.100.128.8 with SMTP id a8mr3693733and.1172497859204; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.33.5 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:50:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:50:59 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Charlie & Root" In-Reply-To: <200702261104.12155.rostyslav@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200702261104.12155.rostyslav@optonline.net> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: microphone and FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:15:57 -0000 On 2/26/07, Charlie & Root wrote: > the microphone does not work at all > > dev.pcm.0.%desc: ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller > dev.pcm.0.%driver: pcm > dev.pcm.0.%location: slot=20 function=2 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.AZAL > dev.pcm.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x1002 device=0x437b subvendor=0x8086 > subdevice=0xd60 > 1 class=0x040300 > dev.pcm.0.%parent: pci0 > dev.pcm.0.wake: 0 > dev.pcm.0.buffersize: 16384 > dev.pcm.0.vchans: 4 > dev.pcm.0.vchanrate: 48000 > dev.pcm.0.vchanformat: s16le > dev.pcm.0.polling: 0 > > > Mixer vol is currently set to 76:75 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 69:69 > Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 > Mixer mic is currently set to 84:84 > Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 > Mixer rec is currently set to 86:86 > Recording source: vol > > > pcm0: > pcm0: pcm0: unregister: channel > pcm0:virtual:0:dsp0.v0 busy (pid 929) > > Help me please. Please, try out the latest patchset from Ariff: http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/ -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 14:16:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4278E16A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0069013C4A3 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 19104 invoked by uid 1002); 26 Feb 2007 13:49:46 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.113.63.132):. 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(steve@ibctech.ca@208.113.63.132) by pearl.ibctech.ca with SMTP; 26 Feb 2007 13:49:36 -0000 Message-ID: <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:49:44 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:16:28 -0000 > anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap. simply > don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap. This is not as feasible as stated. Changing 500 users from Outlook to something they have likely never seen is always a nightmare, even if the subtleties are small. Try explaining that to upper management..."uh, we are getting rid of your Outlook, as well as everyone elses because our server won't work with it. It should only take an hour per user to transfer everything over to the new software, and most users will experience data loss because not all parts are transferable." In short, it would cost less to install Exchange than it would to migrate, train and re-create data for that many users. To the OP...have you checked the log files on the server to check for errors? I have numerous Outlook and OE users who use IMAP over SSL, and SMTP Auth on port 587 (again with SSL). We do not use SPA. We use courier-imap and qmail, and have vpopmail managing the multiple domains. Almost all of our domains have to use their full email address as username. I have seen before however, that sometimes Outlook will try to append their domain to the username (eg: user@domain.com\MSdomain or something similar) so the problem may rest there. Depending on what IMAP server you use, the log file may be /var/log/maillog. It should give you an idea of where to start looking. Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 14:27:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C7316A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A2513C48E for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.61]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:27:23 -0500 id 000567EE.45E2EE4B.000046B0 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:27:23 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070226092723.41744544.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:27:29 -0000 In response to Steve Bertrand : > > anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap. simply > > don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap. I've got to say, I don't know where this is coming from. We have a menagerie of IMAP clients here, and probably 10% of them are Outlook, and we don't have any more trouble with the Outlook clients than any other clients. We use Cyrus. Perhaps that's saying something in Cyrus' favor? -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 14:41:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282CD16A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D61413C441 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] ([192.168.10.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1QEh3sk005565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:43:03 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E2F1AE.30203@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:41:50 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: justinsc References: <000001c759f5$5907ee20$0e32a8c0@dekolonel> In-Reply-To: <000001c759f5$5907ee20$0e32a8c0@dekolonel> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:41:55 -0000 Well locally to me, your reverse resolves to justnosweat.net, but justnosweat.net does not have a DNS entry.Based on that I'd suggest you either create an A record for justnosweat.net with data 80.126.252.247 or change the reverse DNS for 80.126.252.247 to be mail.justnosweat.net. Vince justinsc wrote: > > > I get a messages from mx1.freebsd.org: > 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, > [80.126.252.247] > Seems that the soa file of justnosweat.net is not on the dns server, I > get the root server. > > > I did a dig on the name server of freebsd dig @NS1.IAFRICA.COM > justnosweat.net any. > What`s the problem???? > > > ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> @NS1.IAFRICA.COM justnosweat.net any > ; (1 server found) > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20111 > ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 14 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;justnosweat.net. IN ANY > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > net. 164187 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net. > net. 164187 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: > f.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.35.51.30 > k.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.52.178.30 > g.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.42.93.30 > d.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.31.80.30 > b.gtld-servers.net. 147749 IN A 192.33.14.30 > j.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.48.79.30 > e.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.12.94.30 > m.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.55.83.30 > h.gtld-servers.net. 147749 IN A 192.54.112.30 > l.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.41.162.30 > c.gtld-servers.net. 147749 IN A 192.26.92.30 > i.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.43.172.30 > a.gtld-servers.net. 147753 IN A 192.5.6.30 > b.gtld-servers.net. 147749 IN AAAA 2001:503:231d::2:30 > > ;; Query time: 397 msec > ;; SERVER: 196.7.0.139#53(196.7.0.139) > ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 26 13:34:01 2007 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 490 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 15:00:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C54016A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A14D13C4A5 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 10017 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2007 15:00:11 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Feb 2007 15:00:11 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B2ECF28430; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:00:10 -0500 (EST) To: Andriy Babiy References: <200702251318.02997.ABabiy@shaw.ca> <20070225225007.GA92099@xs3.xs4all.nl> <200702252308.25010.ABabiy@shaw.ca> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:00:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200702252308.25010.ABabiy@shaw.ca> (Andriy Babiy's message of "Sun\, 25 Feb 2007 23\:08\:24 -0800") Message-ID: <44r6sdynet.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ffmpeg build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:00:12 -0000 Andriy Babiy writes: > I found the header file in /usr/src/sys/sys directory. Actually, the > content of the folders looks the same. I'm not sure why the file was > missing in the /usr/include/sys. Note that this means your system is installed improperly; soundcard.h should definitely be in /usr/include/sys. Now would be a good time to do a periodic upgrade -- who knows what else you are missing... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 15:13:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B51916A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from curby.public@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC2B13C46B for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from curby.public@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so742140ugh for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:13:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ScNv52zuih1teuGf86waefI3T0APUOFh2g32y7dkfQr8Z5OSMCHbhc94Fr6szLIQz2Vo93gARdR/rZSiZI1L1ckpSCXXhoc1Ii2E86zLW45S2RlZgbh98pLuVAGMyfc/rBsL8S26xRIyNDuZwfV5y5mMPG6j0SS22IBEMJJHAmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ebrgPO4dBY+MgiSHFgrpr4RxQtdrW62IGHA6b+w8oy6VxuQ1S4Nkv+1WTOYvKFjDnfLWWsM+kyC/IPbRhNstJTJjfgyqwepcvi+N1tDENgZRlmfgsgwNKyTtuEOfxHeviPBQRR+kuEDxGTbPsxUbekOLbquE3XsMJx3X0Z2vP3c= Received: by 10.78.181.13 with SMTP id d13mr459150huf.1172502813998; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:13:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d2f37910702260713p5225507bk4fd4024357761fc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:13:33 -0700 From: Curby To: "Nikos Vassiliadis" In-Reply-To: <200702261125.16649.nvass@teledomenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5d2f37910702250333u282334f4s2865ad3b50ef4042@mail.gmail.com> <200702261125.16649.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:13:40 -0000 Thanks for the replies! On 2/25/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 2/25/07, Curby wrote: > If you don't forward packets, then it's not very different, > packets for "not me" are gonna get dropped anyway right > after the firewall. Thanks! I think I found a case where to all is preferable over to me. Since SMB seems to like broadcasting things, I'm allowing like the following instead of to me: allow udp from any 137,138 to any in keep-state I guess I could write a rule with "to me" and another with the broadcast address of my subnet, but this is simpler. =) > There are a lot of complicated/illegal configurations > when verrevpath shoots you in the foot. Keeping rules > simple and stupid will save you a lot of headache in > the end. I'll keep that in mind as I go forward. I'm interested in trying to do traffic control and NAT via hand-written configurations. =) On 2/26/07, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Most ready-to-use rulesets will have such generalizations. It's not > much of a difference, you can't say they are wrong and since you know > exactly what you want to achieve, it's up to you to change them to > fit perfectly your situation... Yeah, I wasn't really asking about the default/policy rule so much as asking for opinions on "to me" vs "to all" for service-related rules, like: allow tcp from any to me 22 in keep-state As I found out, troublesome UDP protocols sometimes send to multicast/broadcast addresses so that might be a reason for "to all". > I don't know about Mac but on FreeBSD they are redundant anyway. > The TCP/IP stack denies packets from/to 127/8 coming from a wire, > and it also denies sending packets to/from 127/8 down to a wire. Thanks for the notes about the multicast address space. I guess I'll just try to keep the ruleset simple and compact, then tweak as I go. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 15:13:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2088916A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E967013C4B7 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1HLhXv-000BYt-Nk; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:13:48 -0500 Message-ID: <00d501c759b8$b7dc4870$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: "Tek Bahadur Limbu" References: <00aa01c758c6$f8dadb90$6501a8c0@GRANT> <20070225193804.19bc9280.teklimbu@wlink.com.np> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:13:49 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:13:59 -0000 Hi All, I have done some research ... It appears that inn certain conditions, when the net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=1 (sysctl), remote clients or other servers may not respond, and a new rule or dynamic rule is setup. turning this to 0 seemed to help. The effect (of having net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=1) is that over time, hundreds of FIN_WAIT_2 tcp states occure. With some software, (vm-pop3d), it runs out of sockets, and I suspect the daemon does not know how to hadle this. So do a: sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=0 and in about 10 minutes all FIN_WAIT_2 's dissappear. (well almost all). I expect it virtually shut down dynamic rules too in ipfw, but I have been reading more and more that people are saying don't use dynamics on a busy site. Anyone care to comment. -Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tek Bahadur Limbu" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Fw: FIN_WAIT_2 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:23:20 -0500 > "Grant Peel" wrote: > >> my problem is that so many of my vm-pop3d processes get in that >> state that semi-frequently, we get locked out of downloading email. >> >> I kill all the vm-pop3d processes then we have to wait for all the >> FIN_WAIT_2 to die befor i can restart the vm-pop3d process. >> >> If I try to start vm-pop3d before all the FIN_WAIT_2 sockets die, I >> get a 'Can't bind to port" error. >> >> When I do the lsof thing it shows no files or processes connected to >> that port, or socket. > > Hi Grant, > > I also seem to getting the same problem as yours except that my server > is a Squid proxy running on FreeBSD 6.0. Using > > netstat -an | grep tcp | awk '{print $6}' | sort | uniq -c > > gives the following: > > 23 CLOSE_WAIT > 9 CLOSING > 3955 ESTABLISHED > 3342 FIN_WAIT_1 > 2604 FIN_WAIT_2 > 49 LAST_ACK > 15 LISTEN > 16 SYN_SENT > 148 TIME_WAIT > > Then I start to get the following in my squid logs: > > 2007/02/25 17:10:37| comm_open: socket failure: (55) No buffer space > available > > I tried by setting the variable net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=0 but it > didn't help that much. > > It is only after I stop Squid for about 20-30 seconds and restart it, > will the number of connections start to drop. > > I think that the best way to tackle this problem is by using a firewall > to rate-limit the number of connections per IP per time. > > >> >> -Grant >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Christian Walther" >> > To: "Grant Peel" >> > Cc: >> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:53 AM >> > Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 >> > >> > >> >> On 24/02/07, Grant Peel wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >> >>> >> >>> Just wondering if anyone has found / knows of a way to kill >> >>> sockets that are stuck in FIN_WIAT_2 state - without rebooting >> >>> the server. >> >>> >> >>> When I kill the processes (in this case the pop3 server) that >> >>> allows the connection, it still takes about 3 hours for the >> >>> socket to time out and die. >> >> >> >> What is your problem with sockets being in this state? Normaly they >> >> don't consume any resources that would lead to performance >> >> problems. As you say, they die eventually. >> >> Sockets in this state are no problem, it's just that the client >> >> failed to sent the last ACK to the server, which would finally >> >> close the communication. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > - -- > > > With best regards and good wishes, > > Yours sincerely, > > Tek Bahadur Limbu > > (TAG/TDG Group) > Jwl Systems Department > > Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. > > Jawalakhel, Nepal > > http://www.wlink.com.np > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFF4ZTAVrOl+eVhOvYRAmWsAJ48mBKXDDYPIB+9Whgq2kl51JvIvACdHvR/ > T73CpykghiHwlVZ4yCKxJE0= > =UDbN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 15:14:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F83C16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1929513C4A3 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1QFED6k025110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:14:13 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1QFECcZ007428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:14:13 -0800 Message-ID: <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:13:55 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.26.65934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:14:19 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: >> anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap. >> simply don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap. > > This is not as feasible as stated. Changing 500 users from Outlook to > something they have likely never seen is always a nightmare, even if the > subtleties are small. > > Try explaining that to upper management..."uh, we are getting rid of > your Outlook, as well as everyone elses because our server won't work > with it. It should only take an hour per user to transfer everything > over to the new software, and most users will experience data loss > because not all parts are transferable." In short, it would cost less to > install Exchange than it would to migrate, train and re-create data for > that many users. > > To the OP...have you checked the log files on the server to check for > errors? I have numerous Outlook and OE users who use IMAP over SSL, and > SMTP Auth on port 587 (again with SSL). We do not use SPA. We use > courier-imap and qmail, and have vpopmail managing the multiple domains. > > Almost all of our domains have to use their full email address as > username. I have seen before however, that sometimes Outlook will try to > append their domain to the username (eg: user@domain.com\MSdomain or > something similar) so the problem may rest there. > > Depending on what IMAP server you use, the log file may be > /var/log/maillog. It should give you an idea of where to start looking. > > Steve I honestly do think that MS Outlook complies as well as other IMAP clients, just like MS and their IE browser >_>... For example, the University of Washington has the following for their email client page: http://www.washington.edu/computing/email/programs.html#configuring , and if you note the location of outlook (the bottom) along with the information "we don't support this", then maybe you get a hunch about how usable Outlook is with IMAP. The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they develop that mailserver. I'd look at the directions a bit though, see what's going on, but yes authentication does work with SSL/TLS, and it works well from what I can understand. Otherwise other depts (like the one I was working for at the UW) would complain about not being to use Outlook, unless it was Exchange related. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 15:16:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5DA16A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from ns1.internetinsite.com (ns1.internetinsite.com [208.179.97.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D49013C481 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from squirrel.kq6up.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ns1.internetinsite.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1QFGtov002796; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:16:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from 163.150.15.182 (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris) by squirrel.kq6up.org with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:16:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47503.163.150.15.182.1172503018.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> In-Reply-To: <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:16:58 -0800 (PST) From: chris@chrismaness.com To: perryh@pluto.rain.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: juhasaarinen@gmail.com, chris@chrismaness.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:16:59 -0000 >> > How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook? >> > Or do I have to go plain text? >> >> Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe >> Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box. > > *Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook > for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than > plain-text passwords can be made to work. > > My answer is "Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period." > but the OP may be stuck with it for some reason. > Thank You, if I was talking about Anna Nichole Smith or something, that would be *OFF* topic. ;o). I am stuck with outlook if I want to synch my PDA phone to my e-mail. It seems to work ok with gmail pop3. Maybe I can just have sendmail foreward a copy of all my mail to gmail. Thanks Guys, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 15:30:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616F016A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73F213C441 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (localhost.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1QFUNGf036232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:30:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@just.puresimplicity.net) Received: (from hemi@localhost) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l1QFUNMk036231; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:30:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:30:23 -0600 From: Josh Tolbert To: chris@chrismaness.com Message-ID: <20070226153023.GA36082@just.puresimplicity.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <47503.163.150.15.182.1172503018.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47503.163.150.15.182.1172503018.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (just.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:30:23 -0600 (CST) Cc: juhasaarinen@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:30:38 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:16:58AM -0800, chris@chrismaness.com wrote: > >> > How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook? > >> > Or do I have to go plain text? > >> > >> Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe > >> Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box. > > > > *Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook > > for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than > > plain-text passwords can be made to work. > > > > My answer is "Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period." > > but the OP may be stuck with it for some reason. > > > > Thank You, if I was talking about Anna Nichole Smith or something, that > would be *OFF* topic. ;o). > > I am stuck with outlook if I want to synch my PDA phone to my e-mail. It > seems to work ok with gmail pop3. Maybe I can just have sendmail foreward > a copy of all my mail to gmail. > > Thanks Guys, > > Chris Maness I run imap-uw. Outlook 2003 works just fine with my mail server. However, I haven't been able to get Outlook 2002 to work properly. Outlook Express also works fine for me. My (quite popular) page about running both sendmail and imap-uw with SSL/TLS and authentication can be found here: . The page states that one of the goals of the described mail setup is compatibility with Microsoft e-mail clients. Thanks, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 15:39:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DB916A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F4613C478 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1QFarFK058763; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:36:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1QFarYN058762; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:36:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:36:53 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20070226153652.GA58704@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070225182126.GA54901@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Marty Landman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: input/output error on hd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:39:25 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:49:46PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:01AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > > > > > On 2/24/07, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >Well, I think you are past any label problems now and on to the > > > >bad sectors and/or finding superbocks. Although I am not quite clear > > > >from above what resulted in the 'INCOMPLETE LABEL...' message. > > > > > > > > > Ok then, can you point me to somewhere that can learn about superblocks and > > > give me an idea of what to do next? > > > > Most of what I figured out several years ago (and have essentially > > forgotten since) came from the handbook and something I found by > > searching the web that gave the layout of blocks and chains. I would > > have to go back searching again. > > Failing someone who actually knows what they're talking about re UFS > structures chipping in to this discussion, all I can offer in addition > is what my own exploration of manuals and a bit of googling turned up .. > > Firstly, Marty, you should run dumpfs(8) on your ad1s1a. With the -m > switch, this produces a single line suitable for feeding into newfs with > all parameters, and is probably worth saving for all slices in case of > any subsequent emergencies. I've just done that for mine, anyway, along > with fdisk and boot0cfg -v output, and bsdlabel output for UFS slices. Yes. Good call. I couldn't think of the dumpfs command the other evening when I was writing, but that is the place to start. Definitely run that output to a file. It will take some learning to understand how to follow it out. There are tables somewhere that tell what each of those things mean and what fields to look in in the raw data to find each thing - and to write it back if that is what you will want to do. Note that it will tell you in the first line if your filesystem if UFS2 or something else. Good luck - maybe if you are successful, you can write a paper on it and post it to a web page somewhere. I probably should have way back when and then I would remember more now. ////jerry > > Without the -m switch, feed the output to a file, or less, as it's very > voluminous. For a 240GB drive, it'll likely be huge. However the data > at the head is probably what's needed, though I can't make much of it. > > This post by Ian Dowse explains how to compute where the superblocks > are, for a quoted example dumpfs: http://noc.caravan.ru/faq/SBLOCK.html > > Note however that Ian is talking about UFS1 (where the superblock offset > was 32) but if you consult fsck_ffs(8) you'll see (under -b) that for > UFS2, which you almost certainly would have used, it's at 140 .. I > gather that's the offset from the start of each cylinder group? > > > > > Also assuming my bad sectors really are > > > totally bad, wouldn't fsck allow me to mark them as unusable and move on? > > > > No, fsck does not do that. Marking blocks bad happend below the > > level of the OS - generally in the disk controller itself. It remaps > > sectors until it runs out of spares and when it runs out, it starts > > reporting unrecoverable errors. This is not even reported to the OS > > until it runs out of spares. > > > > The only thing you can do with those bad sectors is to try and figure > > out if any of them are superblocks. If they are, you can probably > > rebuild it from other superblock clones. If it is not, it is probably > > lost data. In that case try to overwrite the bad sector. If that > > works, then the sector itself is OK, but the data that was there is > > gone. If it doesn't work, then it is bad and there is a good chance > > that more than data got nuked in the power failure - eg, it damaged > > the disk or controller in some way. > > Seeing if fsck_ffs will use any discovered alternate superblocks would > be the first step, and if so, whether that helps to get it mounted. I'd > certainly be careful to mount it read-only before trying data recovery! > > Since Marty has already been bravely using dd :) rewriting those sectors > should be easy enough, bearing in mind the apparent off-by-one numbering > difference between the sectors dd found bad and those fsck reported bad. > > > But, the next thing seems to be learning about how to follow the file > > chains and how to find and read and write superblocks. Alternatively > > you can decide it isn't worth the effort to recover and try and write > > over the drive completely - just totally trash it - and see if those > > bad sectors will write. If you did that, then you would have to rebuild > > the slice and partition table and do a newfs before you could again > > use the drive and everything previously on it would be lost. > > Well if a dd rewriting those specific contiguous sectors failed, I doubt > that newfs would do any better, so the dd is definitely worth a try, but > I wouldn't write anything further to the fs until all else has failed. > > > Good luck. > > I can only echo that, again. > > > Maybe someone who has some experience in tracking file chains can > > respond and give you more helpp than can I. > > Ditto for that .. I'm now very thoroughly out of my depth here, though > I've learned a few new things through the exercise. > > Maybe mailing Ian Dowse with circumstances and the dumpfs head might be > worth a try, Marty? See the website committers' page for his address. > > Cheers, Ian > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 16:19:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE0A16A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7878213C467 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 30528 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2007 16:19:30 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Feb 2007 16:19:29 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6208A28430; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:19:29 -0500 (EST) To: Steel City Phantom References: <409278.63786.qm@web51109.mail.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:19:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: <409278.63786.qm@web51109.mail.yahoo.com> (Steel City Phantom's message of "Sun\, 25 Feb 2007 18\:40\:59 -0800 \(PST\)") Message-ID: <44irdozyb2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: services file question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:19:30 -0000 Steel City Phantom writes: > I have been trying to figure out an issue with my newest bsd server. > i am trying to get jboss to run but nothing outside of the local > machine can access it. i have been working on this for a while and > am completely out of ideas except for one, but i need a little > information before i start playing > > according to tcpdump when another machine goes to ip:8080 to access > jboss, the packet does not even reach the box. all i can think of > next is the services file. in order for bsd to allow traffic on a > specific port, does it have to be listed in the services file? No. Are you running some kind of firewall? Does the *other* machine confirm that the packet actually hits the wire? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 16:26:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF36116A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp2.utdallas.edu (smtp2.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D69613C441 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB7E5C239; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:26:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:26:50 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Juha Saarinen , perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========A6F54D5CBAE0ABA13004==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: chris@chrismaness.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:26:50 -0000 --==========A6F54D5CBAE0ABA13004========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Monday, February 26, 2007 21:55:45 +1300 Juha Saarinen=20 wrote: > On 2/26/07, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> *Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook >> for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than >> plain-text passwords can be made to work. > > Uh, OK. > >> My answer is "Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period." >> but the OP may be stuck with it for some reason. > > Outlook supports SSL and TLS for both IMAP and SMTP if makes a > difference, plus AUTH but I'm not sure if it sets up a tunnel before > sending the plain-text password. Googling seems to indicate otherwise, > but perhaps someone better versed in Outlook can say for sure? Outlook works just like any other IMAP client. You can set up SSL or TLS.=20 You can change the default port, if you need to. And yes, it sets up the=20 tunnel before exchanging credentials and connecting to one's mailbox. I don't think there's any way to use CRAMD5, but why would you need to if=20 you're already using SSL? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========A6F54D5CBAE0ABA13004==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 16:40:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9623016A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6850313C4A5 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390CB5F58; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:40:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dbILz6vMOgiV; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-114-230.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.114.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752C25DFA; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:40:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45E30D6E.5090102@mac.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:40:14 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <00aa01c758c6$f8dadb90$6501a8c0@GRANT> <20070225193804.19bc9280.teklimbu@wlink.com.np> <00d501c759b8$b7dc4870$6501a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <00d501c759b8$b7dc4870$6501a8c0@GRANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tek Bahadur Limbu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:40:26 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: [ ... ] > sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=0 > > and in about 10 minutes all FIN_WAIT_2 's dissappear. (well almost all). > > I expect it virtually shut down dynamic rules too in ipfw, but I have > been reading more and more that people are saying don't use dynamics on > a busy site. Anyone care to comment. That's some interesting feedback. There's probably another tunable for how long IPFW dynamic rules are supposed to persist by default. In answer to your closing remark, I would attempt to configure static rules for known-permitted services, especially the most commonly used ones, and rely on dynamic rules only for ad-hoc internal traffic, and not for inbound client requests. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 16:44:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37EA16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D92C13C441 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: (qmail 42963 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2007 16:17:22 -0000 Received: from 217.196.247.135 (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (217.196.247.135) by relay03.pair.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2007 16:17:22 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 217.196.247.135 Message-ID: <45E3089F.9070000@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:19:43 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: cron mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:44:04 -0000 Can anyone think of something that can stop cron working for a particular user? I just noticed on one of our 6.1 machines the crontab for a particular user wasn't run properly since dec 21. There were hourly and daily jobs, but neither seemed to be running. Looked in var/cron and see no deny or allow files. The user x had an proper crontab. In the end I modified the users crontab and rewrote it before ################## SHELL=/bin/sh MAILTO=user 13 3 * * * $HOME/bin/daily 19 * * * * $HOME/bin/hourly after ################## SHELL=/bin/sh MAILTO=user 13 3 * * * /home/user/bin/daily 41 * * * * /home/user/bin/hourly and at 41 past the hour the hourly job came back. Is it the HOME variable or the act of rewriting? User did have home defined in /etc/passwd. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 16:54:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1390F16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFB413C461 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C325FA9; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:54:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TsLMto3wJygD; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-114-230.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.114.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FD76102; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:54:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45E310C7.1020903@mac.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:54:31 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robin Becker References: <45E3089F.9070000@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45E3089F.9070000@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: cron mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:54:46 -0000 Robin Becker wrote: [ ... ] > before > ################## > SHELL=/bin/sh > MAILTO=user > > 13 3 * * * $HOME/bin/daily > 19 * * * * $HOME/bin/hourly > > > after > ################## > SHELL=/bin/sh > MAILTO=user > > 13 3 * * * /home/user/bin/daily > 41 * * * * /home/user/bin/hourly > > > and at 41 past the hour the hourly job came back. > > Is it the HOME variable or the act of rewriting? User did have home > defined in /etc/passwd. I suspect that $HOME isn't being defined as one might expect-- cron provides a very minimal shell environment for scripts it runs. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 17:11:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E0E16A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from relay00.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.5.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59A1F13C474 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: (qmail 50062 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2007 17:11:22 -0000 Received: from 217.196.247.135 (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (217.196.247.135) by relay00.pair.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2007 17:11:22 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 217.196.247.135 Message-ID: <45E31546.6040905@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:13:42 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <45E3089F.9070000@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <45E310C7.1020903@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <45E310C7.1020903@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: cron mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:11:27 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Robin Becker wrote: > [ ... ] >> before >> ################## >> SHELL=/bin/sh >> MAILTO=user >> >> 13 3 * * * $HOME/bin/daily >> 19 * * * * $HOME/bin/hourly >> >> >> after >> ################## >> SHELL=/bin/sh >> MAILTO=user >> >> 13 3 * * * /home/user/bin/daily >> 41 * * * * /home/user/bin/hourly >> >> >> and at 41 past the hour the hourly job came back. >> >> Is it the HOME variable or the act of rewriting? User did have home >> defined in /etc/passwd. > > I suspect that $HOME isn't being defined as one might expect-- cron > provides a very minimal shell environment for scripts it runs. > except that I have exactly the same script running on another box with the same freeBSD version and that runs things fine. Looking in man 5 crontab seems to suggest that SHELL=/bin/sh & HOME, LOGNAME are set from the user passwd entry. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 17:22:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B6B16A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A7913C4AA for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from webmail.xs4all.nl (dovemail2.xs4all.nl [194.109.26.4]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1QH83rW066955; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:08:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from 82.93.23.199 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tournoij) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:08:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <16993.82.93.23.199.1172509683.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <44r6sdynet.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <200702251318.02997.ABabiy@shaw.ca> <20070225225007.GA92099@xs3.xs4all.nl> <200702252308.25010.ABabiy@shaw.ca> <44r6sdynet.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:08:03 +0100 (CET) From: "Martin Tournoij" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Andriy Babiy Subject: Re: ffmpeg build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:22:37 -0000 On Mon, February 26, 2007 16:00, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Andriy Babiy writes: > >> I found the header file in /usr/src/sys/sys directory. Actually, the >> content of the folders looks the same. I'm not sure why the file was >> missing in the /usr/include/sys. > > Note that this means your system is installed improperly; soundcard.h > should definitely be in /usr/include/sys. Now would be a good time to > do a periodic upgrade -- who knows what else you are missing... It could also be the sign of a failing hard drive. If you don't keep backups, then now would be a good time to start keeping them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 17:23:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01A516A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5400413C494 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1288628muf for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:23:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ECYH2Un4UTXlsknVCmgdfdeRNPXEPAIEew7MF4cZXhz8XH8d/Vl/pqyapLZ/tS5+BrswczcW0KFxUO1oFKfJHKzmQTVEfCjHwcyYJJgT7SrcC+5OJMMVzoXEe6AcwfxSb+/KEo8ng5x/D9xOR/BxSDgbs04zxxegFoG26Es2OfM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VIvE7QjG1fgagyXJEvVMkKDbvExibhX9UpdB4SMLPTBY0ZHBcU0gy3kR4tikAXfqgtDVT+2BqXhy69lmSSi7HQG6gj1IxK30NhHDurhHngs6/Bj/yTxxbFGLJRhr/sFexQTg57eWxYaux4xWdTnuSoDKVFPIrclpVU7SWVxGkzU= Received: by 10.82.154.2 with SMTP id b2mr1847142bue.1172510594919; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.168.13 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:23:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:23:14 +0300 From: "Mike Barnard" To: "Chris Maness" In-Reply-To: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:23:16 -0000 > > I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great > with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have > Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas? one - what POP/IMAP server are you using? two - some setups will require you to use the FULL email address as the username three - outlook works well as an IMAP client, but you dont want something that works well....you want something that works PERFECT. four - log files always help you out....i believe that will be /var/log/maillog that will help you out... usually a detail of what you are running on your IMAP server, (IMAP server software, versiop of FreeBSD.........) hope that helps -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 17:42:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884DC16A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B6E13C491 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1QHfY9S011324; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:41:35 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070226114021.024ce058@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:41:22 -0600 To: Robin Becker , FreeBSD Questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <45E3089F.9070000@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <45E3089F.9070000@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: cron mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:42:08 -0000 Environment variables are set first by the users shell which then is used to exec cron jobs. Basically, always take nothing in the environment for granted. -Derek At 10:19 AM 2/26/2007, Robin Becker wrote: >Can anyone think of something that can stop cron working for a particular >user? >I just noticed on one of our 6.1 machines the crontab for a particular >user wasn't run properly since dec 21. There were hourly and daily jobs, >but neither seemed to be running. > >Looked in var/cron and see no deny or allow files. The user x had an >proper crontab. > >In the end I modified the users crontab and rewrote it > >before >################## >SHELL=/bin/sh >MAILTO=user > >13 3 * * * $HOME/bin/daily >19 * * * * $HOME/bin/hourly > > >after >################## >SHELL=/bin/sh >MAILTO=user > >13 3 * * * /home/user/bin/daily >41 * * * * /home/user/bin/hourly > > >and at 41 past the hour the hourly job came back. > >Is it the HOME variable or the act of rewriting? User did have home >defined in /etc/passwd. >-- >Robin Becker >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 17:46:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D361016A416 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FE313C49D for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1QHk8AH011424; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:46:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070226114500.0250ee08@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:45:55 -0600 To: odilist@sonic.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <12284.69.12.157.6.1172463269.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> References: <20070226003739.BD13116A405@hub.freebsd.org> <12284.69.12.157.6.1172463269.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Can't make raid array bootable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:46:48 -0000 Check your BIOS, many system boards are configured to NOT allow writes to the boot area as a way to protect against virus's and malware. -Derek At 10:14 PM 2/25/2007, odilist@sonic.net wrote: >Hi, > >I've tried transferring my system (6.0) to an Nvidia hardware raid array >of two SATA drives on an Asus A8N-E motherboard, following the >instructions in the FAQ. I can't seem to use fdisk to make the array >bootable, or to rewrite the master boot record. It claims to write the >information to disk and then, when I check again, nothing has stuck. I >have tried fdisk -B -b ar0, boot0cfg -s 1 ar0, boot0cfg -B ar0, and >probably many other things in the course of the day, but so far I am >rewarded only with: > >Invalid partition >Invalid partition >No boot/loader > >Boot defaults to an ad(0,a) which doesn't exist. > >Further, diskeditor has just started showing two partitions, one which is >the primary of the raid and the other being the array itself. As the raid >section of the handbook says "the disk(s) will look like a single drive to >FreeBSD," this concerns me. > >Would anyone have any ideas? > >Oliver > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 17:49:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7D316A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C30013C4A3 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490D95EC8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:48:58 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jyhr1aYxLgO3; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-114-230.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.114.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9925D5D; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:48:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45E31D84.8080605@mac.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:48:52 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob References: <2D57E1E1-DDD0-41AA-9CE2-000B830B5798@deathbeforedecaf.net> In-Reply-To: <2D57E1E1-DDD0-41AA-9CE2-000B830B5798@deathbeforedecaf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using source control to manage system configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:49:03 -0000 Rob wrote: > I'd like some advice on managing config files on multiple servers with a > source control system. The idea is to update files locally, and commit > them back to a central repository. > > I know that CVS is the usual choice, but there are a couple of things > that I can't get CVS to do. [ ... ] > So... has anyone come up with a neat way to do these things in CVS, or > an SCM system that does it better? If you don't have strong ties to CVS, already, I suggest using Subversion. It handles many of your complaints about permissions and symlinks better than CVS does. You might find that using something like cfengine from ports suits your goals better than rolling your own pushing mechanism. The issue that you'll run into is that you tend to need a human or at least a decent set of rc scripts to properly adjust config files and make sure that services come back up after a significant config change or major version update exposing some compatibility problem. You might also consider starting with a more simple approach, which is making changes on the clients, and then pulling things under /etc, /usr/local/etc, /var/ perhaps, etc somewhere and then importing those into version control, as a backup and as a way of tracking significant changes, being able to rollback or merge changes, and so forth that you get from SCM/VCS. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 17:53:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3638716A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from ns1.internetinsite.com (ns1.internetinsite.com [208.179.97.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1502313C428 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from squirrel.kq6up.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ns1.internetinsite.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1QHrlwQ003654; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:53:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from 163.150.15.182 (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris) by squirrel.kq6up.org with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:53:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> In-Reply-To: <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:53:47 -0800 (PST) From: chris@chrismaness.com To: "Mike Barnard" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Chris Maness , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:53:49 -0000 >> >> I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great >> with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have >> Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas? > > > one - what POP/IMAP server are you using? > two - some setups will require you to use the FULL email address as the > username > three - outlook works well as an IMAP client, but you dont want > something that works > well....you want something that works PERFECT. > four - log files always help you out....i believe that will be > /var/log/maillog that will help you out... > > usually a detail of what you are running on your IMAP server, (IMAP server > software, versiop of FreeBSD.........) > > hope that helps > > -- > Mike > > Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in > a million chances happen 99% of the time. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > I am running imap-uw: imap-uw-2004g_1,1 University of Washington IMAP4rev1/POP2/POP3 mail servers I was able to find out that Outlook does not support Cram-md5. That is the issue. I am going to use sendmail alias to foreward to gmail and use their pop3 service. I only need outlook for myself to sync with my PDA. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 18:01:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA2916A401; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC0313C4A3; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E2F7E8C3; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:01:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bW6148KqnG7Q; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C347E8BF; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:01:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org><200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net><228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org><003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6F5A88A9-55D6-4D05-88DD-FF39D079A99B@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:01:19 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , Kip Macy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:01:26 -0000 On Feb 26, 2007, at 8:01 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Auty" > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" > Cc: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" ; "Kip Macy" > ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Joe Auty" >>> To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" >>> Cc: "Kip Macy" ; >> questions@freebsd.org>; >>> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:14 AM >>> Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Any idea how this could have happened after disabling everything in >>>> my /etc/loader.conf, and simply running a: >>>> >>>> make buildworld >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconfig >>>> make installkernel KERNCONF=myconfig >>>> >>> >>> well your supposed to do this single-user, run mergemaster and a >>> few other >>> things. >>> I also don't see a make installworld. >>> >> >> I usually perform those steps after I've rebooted to ensure that my >> system will boot off the new kernel, as per the instructions in the >> FreeBSD handbook. >> >>> Joe, please try booting from a 6.2-release install ISO. If it >>> works without >>> panicing, >>> then you did something wrong during the upgrade. >>> >> >> Downloading the image now, I'll let you know if I'm able to boot from >> it... >> >>> Since by your own admission your not an expert, you would be well >>> advised >>> to simply back up your files the old fashioned way, reformat your >>> hard disk, >>> install from a 6.2 boot ISO, then restore your files. Leave the >>> fancy >>> in-place >>> updating to someone else. It's a big PIA and doesen't work half >>> the time >>> anyway. >>> >> >> >> How well does simply upgrading with the CD work (as opposed to wiping >> clean)? I've upgraded several times to new releases simply by >> rebuilding world, it has never failed me in the past. I don't doubt >> what you are saying here, but since I will have to change how I work, >> assuming that I can boot off of the 6.2 CD, I'd appreciate any >> general upgrade tips that don't involve wiping the disk clean (which >> is not really an option). >> > > If wiping the disk really isn't an option then you have one or more > of the > following > problems: > > 1) Production system with a lack of hardware spares > > 2) inadequate backup plan and execution. > > People who state that wiping the disk isn't an option are screaming > at the top of their lungs for the hardware gremlins to explain what > MTBF is > all about. > > The gremlins will visit you, I guarentee. And they always pick the > very > best > times for it too. I just hope (if this is your workplace) that > your job > survives. > My production system is backed up daily to two different sites, that's not an issue. The system I'm thinking of upgrading to 6.2 is my test server I run out of my house that stores movie files and other non-essential files. Technically, wiping it clean *would* be an option if it came down to it, just an inconvenience. Perhaps I should invest in another HD to use for instances such as this. >> For instance, is rebuilding world between point releases (e.g. 5.4 to >> 5.5) an okay idea, compared to across major releases (e.g. 5.5 to >> 6.2)? >> >> >> I'll do my own homework regarding this too, but I appreciate any >> nuggets of wisdom you might have! As far as me being an expert, I >> guess I'd categorize me somewhere in between complete newb and >> FreeBSD developer =) >> > > The problem is that all of the ports and packages that you put on a > server > change from release to release. The developers of openssl, for > example, > don't give a tinkers damn about how FreeBSD's upgrade process works, > when they are making changes in their code. > > I run a number of FreeBSD servers and what I do is simply keep them > patched > with security updates. Every once in a while a security hole will be > discovered in a non-core program and if it's serious enough I'll go > into the > port > and do a "make deinstall" followed by downloading and compiling the > program > the "old fashioned way" I shoot for a min of 3 years on the OS > before even > thinking about updating, and when it's time to update the hardware has > generally reached the old rag stage anyway. > Do you run any non-production machines where you test running newer OSes and test software updates and such? ----------- Joe Auty NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians http://www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 16:35:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABA416A46F for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-keyword-freebsdquestions.8c5a2e@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (vpn.mired.org [66.92.153.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2610E13C48D for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-keyword-freebsdquestions.8c5a2e@mired.org) Received: (qmail 37751 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Feb 2007 16:36:45 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:36:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17891.3228.173538.908477@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:36:44 -0500 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> <200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> <228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org> <003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 20) "Double Solitaire" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) From: Mike Meyer X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:15:43 +0000 Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , Kip Macy , Joe Auty , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:35:25 -0000 In <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645>, Ted Mittelstaedt typed: > > For instance, is rebuilding world between point releases (e.g. 5.4 to > > 5.5) an okay idea, compared to across major releases (e.g. 5.5 to 6.2)? For the record, I do a rebuild between point releases - actually, I track -stable on those systems, but do the wipe & reinstall across major releases. > I run a number of FreeBSD servers and what I do is simply keep them patched > with security updates. Every once in a while a security hole will be > discovered in a non-core program and if it's serious enough I'll go into the > port > and do a "make deinstall" followed by downloading and compiling the program > the "old fashioned way" I shoot for a min of 3 years on the OS before even > thinking about updating, and when it's time to update the hardware has > generally reached the old rag stage anyway. This works great for servers, that don't have any real users on them, and is pretty much how I do things. I'll try updating the ports tree and installing from that rather than building the old fashioned way, because that works a surprising percentage of the time. On desktop and development systems, the users tend to get pissed if I let things get that old. So I do upgrade them more often. There are a couple of things you can do to make reinstalling to a clean disk a bit less painfull. 1) Intelligent file system layout. I put all the things that aren't installed from the FreeBSD disks on their own partitions (/home and /local). I can then wipe and reinstall /, /var and /usr without clobbering the non-system data. 2) Mirrored disks. Disks for consumer systems are cheap. Throwing a second one in a system and mirroring the system disk is a cheap way to improve the reliability of the system. When it's time to upgrade, take a drive out of the mirror, and install to that drive. You can reboot to the old system if you need to interrupt the process and run the old system for some reason. With a file system layout as per #1, you can even mount the users files under both versions of the OS. When you're happy with the new system, mirror the new system drive to the old one. Neither of these is an excuse for not backing up your data before you start the process. Given the above, the backups are for disaster recovery, so you don't need full level 0 dumps, just up-to-date incrementals. So if you're running daily backups, this should be easy: drop into single user, and run an incremental since the last daily, which typically takes me a few minutes. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 18:30:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C61B16A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B56713C428 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1QIUVmH069884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:30:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:30:27 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:30:32 -0000 Hi there, any clues why sshd is attempting to start twice? sshd[836]: error: Bind to port 22 on :: failed: Address already in use. sshd[836]: error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use. here is the /etc/rc.conf of the server: -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Fri Jan 26 05:42:42 2007 # Created: Fri Jan 26 05:42:42 2007 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. linux_enable="YES" named_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" rpcbind_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" sshd_program="/usr/local/sbin/sshd" sshd_flags="-f /etc/ssh/sshd_config" usbd_enable="YES" ntpd_enable="YES" ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp/ntp.conf" ntupdate="YES" ntpdate_config="/etc/ntp/ntp.conf" nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_client_flags="-n 4" inetd_enable="YES" syslog_ng_enable="YES" syslog_ng_pid="/var/run/syslog-ng.pid" cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 18:43:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F9D16A404 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B4213C46B for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1QIehVU059538 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:40:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1QIehnI059537 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:40:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:40:43 -0500 From: Jerry To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:43:12 -0000 Hi All, I am being forced to use something besides FreeBSD - probably Susie or Red Hat Linux for the base of a server system. The primary reason given is that when security issues come along, FreeBSD has no way of patching the running system, but rather requires rebuilding the system - CVSUP, make, install, etc whereas Susie and Red Hat can be patched on the fly. I presume this means kernel type security stuff rather than concerns about third party software. Up to now, I have not been in a situation that doing a cvsup and builds and installs or even scratch installs of new versions wasn't just fine, so that is what I have done and have some experience with. But the powers that be here are saying that is unacceptable because it will take the system down too much for critical fixes. My question is: How do I respond to this? I have seen the word patch used in security update messages - but didn't follow that path. Is that real? Does it cover kernel things essentially on the fly or is a 'time consuming' rebuild still needed? I will look up some stuff on patches in FreeBSD, but would like to hear some perspective on this. Thanks, ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 18:46:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2676B16A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B877D13C461 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so779836pye for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:46:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ULgxvsBBpoOD3spZbnNQonJizZNu362EKeJj+wBbmPSmCnFVmMFTKE+kYINp+GovZYLMZ9p40Im7DCXXfjf+lbX1t78mAi9MiDJOiEuP19CO/KsAX1Lpn4IvzSFABzKUUurMnppJU4zSVkvtV9sbnvb9Wcm3rDJe/zK03QTbNB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=epK4OjvFCcEnhPyU0HQ1tVuKVxrgaoEmi3TaHGkufUP6wzB1A3v4DDplD6OrMmoOvdL/TCrBCwanlTmAxPslQuMPWp9e5IZp2KRbrvfwA705Zp7VvtioyQWDcdWvlXu6h2V34dq7L3rKDhQ+RGWPJ4CsHRQHFaJDNL9p63oauWE= Received: by 10.65.43.17 with SMTP id v17mr8811083qbj.1172515607123; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:46:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:46:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60702261046m671647bbwc9aef6b1f6475522@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:46:47 -0500 From: "David Robillard" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Rob Subject: Re: Using source control to manage system configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:46:48 -0000 > If you don't have strong ties to CVS, already, I suggest using Subversion. It > handles many of your complaints about permissions and symlinks better than CVS > does. I agree, Subversion is better then CVS. We've switched from CVS to Subversion a year ago and so far the entire dev team is very happy. If you do have an existing CVS infrastructure, it's also possible to switch to Subversion with cvs2svn which is in the ports tree (i.e. devel/cvs2svn). > You might find that using something like cfengine from ports suits your goals > better than rolling your own pushing mechanism. The issue that you'll run > into is that you tend to need a human or at least a decent set of rc scripts > to properly adjust config files and make sure that services come back up after > a significant config change or major version update exposing some > compatibility problem. Again, Chuck is absolutely right. Cfengine is great, but you must know what you're doing. If you simply want to track changes and be able to roll back your configuration files, then go with a more simple approach like using RCS locally. RCS is part of the base FreeBSD system. Just create a directory named RCS (in capital letters) and use the RCS commands. Check the man pages for rcs(1) ci(1) co(1) rcsdiff(1) and rcsintro(1). Actually, rcsintro(1) is probably where you want to start. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=rcsintro&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASE&format=html Now if you want to keep your changes on another machine, then it's just a simple question of running a backup of your machines. (you do backup right? ;) I've been using RCS for 10 years now and it's simple, fast and does not depend on your network. So it's always there even in worst case scenarios. RCS is also present under a whole bunch of different UNIX flavors like FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, RedHat, SuSE, Solaris, AIX, IRIX and HP-UX. So you're never lost because it's always the same :) Have fun, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 18:46:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9DD16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jacques.Beigbeder@ens.fr) Received: from nef2.ens.fr (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FC913C47E for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jacques.Beigbeder@ens.fr) Received: from trefle.ens.fr (trefle.ens.fr [129.199.96.17]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l1QIIqPS080812 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:18:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from (beig@localhost) by trefle.ens.fr (8.12.3/jb-1.1) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Authentication-Warning: trefle.ens.fr: beig set sender to Jacques.Beigbeder@ens.fr using -f Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:18:52 +0100 From: Jacques Beigbeder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070226181852.GA853@trefle.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:18:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: DNS and mail servers behind a PF firewall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:46:50 -0000 Hello, My question is related to PF performances with large state tables. FreeBSD : 5.5 hw.model: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz hw.physmem: 2138378240 = 2 Gb If I put a mail server 20 SMTP hits per second (thanks to spam...) 15 seconds per SMTP dialog 90 seconds for PF timeout tcp.close the state table will have: 20 * (90 + 15) * 2 ways = 5.000 entries Since any mail generates a few DNS queries (reverse DNS, + DSNRBL queries), the state table will also gets 2 ways * 60 seconds (timeout udp.multiple) * 5 (DNS queries) * 20 (connections) = 12.000 entries So I'll get around 20.000 entries, each of them have a short lifetime. Question: . is such a number a performance problem? It seems strange to constantly add and delete entries for DNS requests in the state table? . or do I have to write rules to avoid all the (unnecessary??) entries? As far as I understand, beginning with pass in quick proto udp from a.b.c.d port 53 to any ... same for TCP/25 ... is the trick. Thanks, -- Jacques Beigbeder | Jacques.Beigbeder@ens.fr Service de Prestations Informatiques | http://www.spi.ens.fr Ecole normale supérieure | 45 rue d'Ulm |Tel : (+33 1)1 44 32 37 96 F75230 Paris cedex 05 |Fax : (+33 1)1 44 32 20 75 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 18:53:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021DD16A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CE113C471 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1599721nfc for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:53:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kc2AjzkbozkoZjjuMWZXyBTdrR11cR8ExAtta/4LrqzMpAnPrPleEE8K05PyHl5fY+GWRi/C+mPBTUyVr2NwFb3aMtaGWNNty6EPEJS+IO5p4KtGtD1uwMX4FMGM5aSuNjllrj6kEiEXVbTT/TolVNZa6alEuDvjfCNFz84swXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MUSeSS3OANzPHLv1Qry9Kia3NI2o9iMAfqbfk8ux9+bHpo+U00ryCMS1fUwtTtVAOuMWJdjJosxtf9Qrc6dlWFX8vvi6f1zWtHenW/Z/2lRIc0TXECfXne8dXMjqFcr8wNaCtXws47NvynzlAfJo3jthsA9lWWDnS5zV/Bl4tkU= Received: by 10.82.113.6 with SMTP id l6mr1922318buc.1172516001149; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.163.16 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:53:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0702261053k5cf8c64eod62cb2cd498bb87a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:53:20 -0800 From: "Josh Carroll" To: Jerry In-Reply-To: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@psualum.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:53:23 -0000 > My question is: How do I respond to this? > I have seen the word patch used in security update messages - but > didn't follow that path. Is that real? Does it cover kernel > things essentially on the fly or is a 'time consuming' rebuild > still needed? 6.2 now official supports binary patches via freebsd-update(8). From the 6.2-RELEASE announcement (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html): "freebsd-update(8) provides officially supported binary updates for security fixes and errata patches" So there's your response. :) Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 18:58:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A0916A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC3B13C4B5 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1316698muf for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:58:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UorbWOnWyoXrN6bNabiRzXRpg+jyTwSh2jmoD72phqUlH6S2OfdV23yGtTvfP6FKQ/6dYvLm7L4W3vAy3+fMnG4HrIqnUXrbcQKHCbUedwdhRS/qVDX2Zc3aAB0ej+kAblgYPauK6+3yz/UFRMUb0kw4UQej2tuWmfJRCSP9CqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gyQMTnIVDw4ZCKbrYOsEhE96vkWEGFs1sWhGHW6nfn3f30rhiWlN3dvx5NzWRY4DdyxP+CMtZDiDhDd26YCTuT/YQYv0WtTO5IFGqmfIHbH2yQee7+ApZSOo+7QfRXoJXhYwHTA6U4yuTukzAdocYhpGVuzL+G2TJA9l3A/Bjtg= Received: by 10.82.113.6 with SMTP id l6mr1928433buc.1172516310259; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.124.20 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:58:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57d710000702261058x78723aa3s30605d88082e7ec1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:58:30 -0800 From: "pete wright" To: josh.carroll@psualum.com In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0702261053k5cf8c64eod62cb2cd498bb87a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <8cb6106e0702261053k5cf8c64eod62cb2cd498bb87a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Jerry , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:58:32 -0000 On 2/26/07, Josh Carroll wrote: > > My question is: How do I respond to this? > > I have seen the word patch used in security update messages - but > > didn't follow that path. Is that real? Does it cover kernel > > things essentially on the fly or is a 'time consuming' rebuild > > still needed? > > 6.2 now official supports binary patches via freebsd-update(8). From > the 6.2-RELEASE announcement > (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html): > > "freebsd-update(8) provides officially supported binary updates for > security fixes and errata patches" > > So there's your response. :) > and you can update your third party packages via binary packages (which you can get from freebsd.org or build yourself)...so it seems these two solutions would be a great fit. -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:01:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AD216A421 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E295713C4B9 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1602155nfc for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:00:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Bydpw+JW9uk3KoYZXTtooBLYp9Jwn7zqJ46KHq8diUhvbenxalw/Sm7eA+dPlaNp35zI5AHLtu1PJYZ99h/3nDN0EtHK5RmyK3TQz+kL/nEY0b93D3I6vaZusWIUcdN7GuLjnRlrHZWW/J6lxUVFN+Cdd6hKdHZLKhOExnfPFO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LvGjI4ohZ7kCsZ3umrx5Z27EzWN6jAyb1kOk47P1/o4CowBBLLycnr31ArrohhA2ZBQarjP9GaFgpu/PAHzBmkXnViaZHILSOKprAMuf8sJrclvXgPneGvzsC06ZLeFnxDe2r7B8DbnycizBgRdAUJVqWeFVe7Po8kVyl6YweAA= Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr1924926buc.1172516457769; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.163.16 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:00:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0702261100k663a2322wc4dc0c57555821bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:00:57 -0800 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "pete wright" In-Reply-To: <57d710000702261058x78723aa3s30605d88082e7ec1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <8cb6106e0702261053k5cf8c64eod62cb2cd498bb87a@mail.gmail.com> <57d710000702261058x78723aa3s30605d88082e7ec1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Jerry , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@psualum.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:01:04 -0000 > and you can update your third party packages via binary packages > (which you can get from freebsd.org or build yourself)...so it seems > these two solutions would be a great fit. Right, using packages instead of ports means he can do binary updates of packages as well, without having to recompile them from ports for version updates. Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:07:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727F316A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6F113C4A8 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1QJ77c4013046; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:07:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070226130607.024c0508@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:06:55 -0600 To: Noah , User Questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:07:40 -0000 The errors you are getting is indicative that sshd is already running. Try doing: ps -ax|grep named -Derek At 12:30 PM 2/26/2007, Noah wrote: >Hi there, > >any clues why sshd is attempting to start twice? > > >sshd[836]: error: Bind to port 22 on :: failed: Address already in use. >sshd[836]: error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use. > > >here is the /etc/rc.conf of the server: > >-- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Fri Jan 26 05:42:42 2007 ># Created: Fri Jan 26 05:42:42 2007 ># Enable network daemons for user convenience. ># Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. ># This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >linux_enable="YES" >named_enable="YES" >moused_enable="YES" >nfs_client_enable="YES" >nfs_server_enable="YES" >rpcbind_enable="YES" >sshd_enable="YES" >sshd_program="/usr/local/sbin/sshd" >sshd_flags="-f /etc/ssh/sshd_config" >usbd_enable="YES" >ntpd_enable="YES" >ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp/ntp.conf" >ntupdate="YES" >ntpdate_config="/etc/ntp/ntp.conf" >nfs_client_enable="YES" >nfs_client_flags="-n 4" >inetd_enable="YES" >syslog_ng_enable="YES" >syslog_ng_pid="/var/run/syslog-ng.pid" > > > >cheers, > >Noah > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:08:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF23B16A40A for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE9813C4B4 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l1QJ7dld032595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:07:45 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1QJ7L2b007474; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:07:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l1QJ7LlY007473; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:07:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:07:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Noah Message-ID: <20070226190721.GA7434@kobe.laptop> References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.503, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.70, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:08:21 -0000 On 2007-02-26 10:30, Noah wrote: > Hi there, > > any clues why sshd is attempting to start twice? > > sshd[836]: error: Bind to port 22 on :: failed: Address already in use. > sshd[836]: error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use. > > here is the /etc/rc.conf of the server: > > -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Fri Jan 26 05:42:42 2007 > # Created: Fri Jan 26 05:42:42 2007 > # Enable network daemons for user convenience. > # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > linux_enable="YES" > named_enable="YES" > moused_enable="YES" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > nfs_server_enable="YES" > rpcbind_enable="YES" > sshd_enable="YES" > sshd_program="/usr/local/sbin/sshd" > sshd_flags="-f /etc/ssh/sshd_config" > usbd_enable="YES" > ntpd_enable="YES" > ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp/ntp.conf" > ntupdate="YES" > ntpdate_config="/etc/ntp/ntp.conf" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > nfs_client_flags="-n 4" > inetd_enable="YES" > syslog_ng_enable="YES" > syslog_ng_pid="/var/run/syslog-ng.pid" I see you have switched the `rc.conf' path of sshd to point to the version of sshd in `/usr/local/sbin'. Make sure that you don't have *both* this setting *and* an executable script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:14:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F103516A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59EC13C4A5 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8C51DF10C; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:23 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: UlH1lngUHYvUXQkZ7eR1SK9Xsu4x41qtciU02p9YaR+9 1172517083 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0FD11389; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:11:07 -0600 To: Wojciech Puchar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:14:25 -0000 On Feb 26, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > as my answer. i have ca 500 users in my networks (mostly one), > outlook users always have "problems", and i always answer that they > like problems and use outlook. As an email administrator I have to concur. Unless people really are using the extra features of on exchange server some place (shared calendars etc), getting users to move away from Outhouse is a major security improvement and reduces most of the email tech support calls. Please note that Outhouse (and some other Windows "IMAP" clients) do IMAP in a POPish way. This will undermine the advantages of IMAP and almost certainly lead to lost mail through users POPing their box. But I do understand that getting rid of Outhouse simply might not be an option. Unfortunately, I can't answer the original question because I haven't played with IMAP on FreeBSD yet. I don't even know what IMAP server the OP is using. It will almost certainly be one of courier, cyrus, or uw. I would recommend to the OP to first find out what imap server they are running and then post the question to the very helpful Usenet group comp.mail.imap -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:23:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A45A16A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D433513C4A3 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F841DF1F6; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:23:20 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: jcH1390VwQZVI/4uJXtyfauY0jiWuwHSpzo3InaqlVpI 1172517799 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C9B11375; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:23:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:23:10 -0600 To: chris@chrismaness.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:23:21 -0000 On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:53 AM, chris@chrismaness.com wrote: > I was able to find out that Outlook does not support Cram-md5. > That is > the issue. The question of using CRAM-MD5 over TLS can lead to holy wars. It is still what in recommended by the UW IMAP team, but it has the disadvantage of not being universally support and it means that the server stores an unencrypted copy of the users' secret credentials. I, personally, don't use it for the servers I have managed. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:29:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0673116A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from achilles.leela.ws (achilles.leela.ws [66.207.162.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D133313C4A7 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.249] ([158.145.111.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by achilles.leela.ws (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1QJSqKW074739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:28:53 -0900 (AKST) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Message-ID: <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:28:48 -0900 From: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061207 Thunderbird/1.5.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> <20070226190721.GA7434@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20070226190721.GA7434@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Noah , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:29:14 -0000 On 2007/02/26 10:07, Giorgos Keramidas seems to have typed: > On 2007-02-26 10:30, Noah wrote: >> sshd_enable="YES" >> sshd_program="/usr/local/sbin/sshd" [snip] >> inetd_enable="YES" [snip] > I see you have switched the `rc.conf' path of sshd to point to the > version of sshd in `/usr/local/sbin'. Make sure that you don't have > *both* this setting *and* an executable script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d :-) You might also want to check that you don't have it enabled in both inetd.conf and in rc.conf. If inetd is trying to start it and rc.conf is trying to start it as well, that would explain your errors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:32:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CC416A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03A9E13C4A5 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 12280 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2007 19:32:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.134.207 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2007 19:32:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: GqZip6sVM1lhEph7dkVraYGCmy.Jgy01NJv7XzirbJzi2GUlhk9zALaqZheUm6c3Y16s5XsfV9H9Cm5RbTF8LslETem58JlXXI1MrFGTQbHlO8bZOsaEpKqalT6Tw6EjE_JA79VwC90ngL4- Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABDF1146C; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:32:49 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k5-1hnXuxg1l; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:32:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9362A11469; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:32:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45E335DA.8030104@mikestammer.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:32:42 -0600 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter A. Giessel" References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> <20070226190721.GA7434@kobe.laptop> <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Noah , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:32:52 -0000 Peter A. Giessel wrote: > On 2007/02/26 10:07, Giorgos Keramidas seems to have typed: >> On 2007-02-26 10:30, Noah wrote: >>> sshd_enable="YES" >>> sshd_program="/usr/local/sbin/sshd" > > [snip] > >>> inetd_enable="YES" > > [snip] > >> I see you have switched the `rc.conf' path of sshd to point to the >> version of sshd in `/usr/local/sbin'. Make sure that you don't have >> *both* this setting *and* an executable script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d :-) > > You might also want to check that you don't have it enabled in both > inetd.conf and in rc.conf. If inetd is trying to start it and rc.conf > is trying to start it as well, that would explain your errors. if you installed openssh port, i think the preferred way is to start it like this: # disable built in SSH and enable SSH_portable sshd_enable="NO" openssh_enable="YES" that way the built in sshd is not used (startup script in /etc/rc.d) and the openssh version is used (from /usr/local/etc/rc.d) Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:53:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14B016A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240DE13C48D for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l1QJqLMj002180 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:27 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1QJq4Nc017059; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l1QJq3Zk017058; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:03 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Peter A. Giessel" Message-ID: <20070226195203.GA17029@kobe.laptop> References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> <20070226190721.GA7434@kobe.laptop> <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.503, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.70, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Noah , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:53:04 -0000 On 2007-02-26 10:28, "Peter A. Giessel" wrote: > On 2007/02/26 10:07, Giorgos Keramidas seems to have typed: > > On 2007-02-26 10:30, Noah wrote: > >> sshd_enable="YES" > >> sshd_program="/usr/local/sbin/sshd" > > [snip] > > >> inetd_enable="YES" > > [snip] > > > I see you have switched the `rc.conf' path of sshd to point to the > > version of sshd in `/usr/local/sbin'. Make sure that you don't have > > *both* this setting *and* an executable script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d :-) > > You might also want to check that you don't have it enabled in both > inetd.conf and in rc.conf. If inetd is trying to start it and rc.conf > is trying to start it as well, that would explain your errors. Ah, yes! Very good point :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 19:57:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56C716A404 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0793313C46B for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l1QJuOdR002378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:56:30 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1QJu4CP017157; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:56:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l1QJu4YP017156; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:56:04 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:56:03 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Derek Ragona Message-ID: <20070226195603.GB17029@kobe.laptop> References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070226130607.024c0508@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070226130607.024c0508@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.504, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.69, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Noah , User Questions Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:57:13 -0000 On 2007-02-26 13:06, Derek Ragona wrote: > The errors you are getting is indicative that sshd is already running. > Try doing: > > ps -ax|grep named You mean "grep sshd" right? :) A slightly more complex command, which gives nicer output is: $ ps xau -p $(echo $(pgrep 'ssh') | sed -e 's/ /,/g') Replace 'ssh' with any other string, and enjoy :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 20:03:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E092A16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from echo.calarts.edu (echo.calarts.edu [198.182.157.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FA213C491 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from echo.calarts.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id A9B22101E3E0 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:56:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from muse2.calarts.edu (muse2.calarts.edu [198.182.157.28]) by echo.calarts.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882601018CA8 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:56:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [172.31.1.252] (dynamic.calarts.edu [172.31.1.252] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by muse2.calarts.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l1QK3T1h066371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:03:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Message-ID: <45E33D11.2000002@calarts.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:03:29 -0800 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 198.182.157.28 Subject: isc dhcpd startup script error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:03:31 -0000 FreeBSD 6.2 Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.5 ISC DHCP server I installed from ports after cvsuping I run /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd start chown: not found /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd: WARNING: unable to change permissions of /var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases however dhcpd works and runs I tried the usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd install then run the start script but receive the same thing. What am I doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 20:12:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B0C16A47E for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAAF13C4E7 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1QKBnr1041233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l1QKBni6041232; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:11:48 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jerry Message-ID: <20070226201148.GC71962@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:12:23 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 26), Jerry said: > I am being forced to use something besides FreeBSD - probably Susie > or Red Hat Linux for the base of a server system. The primary reason > given is that when security issues come along, FreeBSD has no way of > patching the running system, but rather requires rebuilding the > system - CVSUP, make, install, etc whereas Susie and Red Hat can be > patched on the fly. I presume this means kernel type security stuff > rather than concerns about third party software. FreeBSD can be patched on the fly just as easily as Linux. In both cases: Kernel fixes require a reboot. Fixes to running deamons require them to be restarted. Fixes to shared libraries require all running programs using them to be restarted (usually simpler to just reboot). YAST/up2date/whatever may automatically restart daemons (I know apt-get in Debian does), but for something like a libc update, the fact that the file is delivered via an RPM versus a "make install" step doesn't save you from a reboot. > My question is: How do I respond to this? I have seen the word > patch used in security update messages - but didn't follow that path. > Is that real? Does it cover kernel things essentially on the fly or > is a 'time consuming' rebuild still needed? A patch lets you fix the problem listed in the security advisory without necessarily having to do a full buildworld. The SA-07:02.bind advisory, for example, gives instructions on how to patch, rebuild, install, and restart named. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 20:34:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0986A16A400 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA41013C428 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1QKY1lm079187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:34:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E3442F.5010907@enabled.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:33:51 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter A. Giessel" References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> <20070226190721.GA7434@kobe.laptop> <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:34:23 -0000 Peter A. Giessel wrote: > On 2007/02/26 10:07, Giorgos Keramidas seems to have typed: > >> On 2007-02-26 10:30, Noah wrote: >> >>> sshd_enable="YES" >>> sshd_program="/usr/local/sbin/sshd" >>> > > [snip] > > >>> inetd_enable="YES" >>> > > [snip] > > >> I see you have switched the `rc.conf' path of sshd to point to the >> version of sshd in `/usr/local/sbin'. Make sure that you don't have >> *both* this setting *and* an executable script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d :-) >> > > You might also want to check that you don't have it enabled in both > inetd.conf and in rc.conf. If inetd is trying to start it and rc.conf > is trying to start it as well, that would explain your errors. > its commented out # grep ssh /etc/inetd.conf #ssh stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/sshd sshd -i -4 #ssh stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/sbin/sshd sshd -i -6 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 20:45:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A7216A404 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: from hades.rz.tu-clausthal.de (hades.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492BA13C478 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: from hades.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B4E61FE314 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:45:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (poseidon [139.174.2.21]) by hades.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5101FE307 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:45:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [139.174.5.7] (account ok [139.174.5.7] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTPSA id 20941456 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:45:32 +0100 Message-ID: <45E34722.5080609@rz.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:46:26 +0100 From: Oliver Koch User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> <20070226190721.GA7434@kobe.laptop> <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> <45E3442F.5010907@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <45E3442F.5010907@enabled.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig45CA209B254599B78165E21E" X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:45:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig45CA209B254599B78165E21E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Noah schrieb: > its commented out >=20 > # grep ssh /etc/inetd.conf > #ssh stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/sshd sshd -i= -4 > #ssh stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/sbin/sshd sshd -i= -6 could you please post your sshd_config? Perhabs there's something wrong. Kind regards, Oliver --=20 Oliver Koch Phone: +49-(0)5323-72-2626 Computer Center Fax: +49-(0)5323-72-3536 Clausthal University of Technology E-Mail: koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de Erzstra=DFe 51 Web: http://www.rz.tu-clausthal.d= e 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Germany --------------enig45CA209B254599B78165E21E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF40clF9sAGRi389URAmDiAJ0TOOn2qFDD6lflC2rOPFNHVz/xZACeNNeZ atNVL0h1Y+X5OMaqf5BsuhU= =A0OY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig45CA209B254599B78165E21E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 20:49:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FCF16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873DC13C491 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1QKn8Jf039095; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:49:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1QKn7Px039092; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:49:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:49:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> Message-ID: <20070226214106.W38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:49:08 -0000 > the extra features of on exchange server some place (shared calendars etc), > getting users to move away from Outhouse is a major security improvement and > reduces most of the email tech support calls. i provide services for users, including mail services with IMAP access. and i often help users of my services how to configure their client programs (which is often not my duty) for free. but i don't help solving problems that people willingly create, FOR EXAMPLE by using Outlook for mail. other examples are using internet explorer, others are installing some "magic firewalls" and "feeling secure" instead of just stopping all windows network services and then running few really needed (often none). Other is using POP3 instead of IMAP, so no e-mails are kept on server side (and backed up by me daily) and then but thats problems they are willingly creating, and chance to get some cash providing data recovery services etc... people are allowed to be stupid. it's natural. no need to worry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 20:52:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52FA16A405 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB5713C4A3 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1QKqEh3039409; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1QKqDdM039406; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: chris@chrismaness.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:52:22 -0000 >> the issue. > > The question of using CRAM-MD5 over TLS can lead to holy wars. It is still the answer is that when using windows (biggest security hole), using best ever secure connection (assuming such thing exist) is as good as not using any, if company/office uses windows, right company-wide done VPN is an answer, even better - mail server in the same place on the same LAN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 20:52:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3760F16A402 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB0A13C4B2 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so492980nza for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:52:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=B0ohTh+i3dNVHPhm65PyNUjv3c5gkILKltshrb8O7v6AiUNn/aptUjZCjqyAOSr1XxEbE1fcqILnwkBnstuHXcDaGwYIBVMwGlJ96OSXm2yqKe4Ipb4r+aOol3Yph6DfFR/fsJzViy5nM3crvgN/lOJFn7dabqw9YszT1Cv1Jxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D7c/BXCwaLI3SZOD4jnfgnqaNsXTmaTK8ILXW1Y9cHNW1LJ6kTQinHAnJZZWCsI4wP1/wZ/ixjVAsxZRoPQwTmmJlCQY1k6NCL4CfiBfJx3Mk1lNU/fG4/ZGBDxWBpU8eTDoZjbZteZqGSbD/n7BNsA3R8yunJI5aPe94lYTR/A= Received: by 10.65.103.17 with SMTP id f17mr8995362qbm.1172523163313; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.211.18 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:52:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19861fba0702261252n20edcabcs968bce7b576c39df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:43 +0100 From: J65nko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070226181852.GA853@trefle.ens.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070226181852.GA853@trefle.ens.fr> Cc: Subject: Re: DNS and mail servers behind a PF firewall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:52:44 -0000 On 2/26/07, Jacques Beigbeder wrote: > Hello, > > My question is related to PF performances with large state tables. > FreeBSD : 5.5 > hw.model: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz > hw.physmem: 2138378240 = 2 Gb > > If I put a mail server > 20 SMTP hits per second (thanks to spam...) > 15 seconds per SMTP dialog > 90 seconds for PF timeout tcp.close > the state table will have: > 20 * (90 + 15) * 2 ways = 5.000 entries > > Since any mail generates a few DNS queries (reverse DNS, > + DSNRBL queries), the state table will also gets > 2 ways * 60 seconds (timeout udp.multiple) * 5 (DNS queries) * 20 (connections) > = 12.000 entries > > So I'll get around 20.000 entries, each of them have a short lifetime. > > Question: > . is such a number a performance problem? > It seems strange to constantly add and delete entries for DNS > requests in the state table? > . or do I have to write rules to avoid all the (unnecessary??) > entries? As far as I understand, beginning with > pass in quick proto udp from a.b.c.d port 53 to any > ... same for TCP/25 ... > is the trick. > [snip] Yes, keeping state on DNS traffic is quite expensive ;) This is mentioned in the series of 3 artilcles by the architect of pf, Daniel Hartmeier, at undeadly.org http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060927091645&mode=expanded http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060928081238&mode=expanded http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060929080943&mode=expanded Try if just passing quick port 53 traffic without keeping state has a measurable postive impact. Or you could install a small not resource hungry caching nameserver like Bernstein's dnscache, which will save a lot of DNS and RBL ttraffic. Most of the time however, perl based virus scanning is the cause of less than expected performance of a mail server. =Adriaan= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 21:05:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D9016A414 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5701713C4B7 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1QL4NQa014815; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:04:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070226150348.024b5198@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:04:08 -0600 To: Giorgos Keramidas From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20070226195603.GB17029@kobe.laptop> References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070226130607.024c0508@mail.computinginnovations.com> <20070226195603.GB17029@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Noah , User Questions Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:05:02 -0000 Yup, my bad typo. -Derek At 01:56 PM 2/26/2007, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >On 2007-02-26 13:06, Derek Ragona wrote: > > The errors you are getting is indicative that sshd is already running. > > Try doing: > > > > ps -ax|grep named > >You mean "grep sshd" right? :) > >A slightly more complex command, which gives nicer output is: > > $ ps xau -p $(echo $(pgrep 'ssh') | sed -e 's/ /,/g') > >Replace 'ssh' with any other string, and enjoy :) > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 21:05:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AFE16A40F for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82C413C481 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5FBA638177; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:05:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306CA37E42; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:05:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AA737E48; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:05:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E34B83.6000602@passagen.se> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:05:07 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:05:14 -0000 Hello, Without knowing more, could sshd be listening to more than one interface in your machine? If so, try setting 'ListenAddress your.ip.adress.here' in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Greetings /Roger Noah skrev: > Hi there, > > any clues why sshd is attempting to start twice? > > > sshd[836]: error: Bind to port 22 on :: failed: Address already in use. > sshd[836]: error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in > use. > > > here is the /etc/rc.conf of the server: > > -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Fri Jan 26 05:42:42 2007 > # Created: Fri Jan 26 05:42:42 2007 > # Enable network daemons for user convenience. > # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > linux_enable="YES" > named_enable="YES" > moused_enable="YES" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > nfs_server_enable="YES" > rpcbind_enable="YES" > sshd_enable="YES" > sshd_program="/usr/local/sbin/sshd" > sshd_flags="-f /etc/ssh/sshd_config" > usbd_enable="YES" > ntpd_enable="YES" > ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp/ntp.conf" > ntupdate="YES" > ntpdate_config="/etc/ntp/ntp.conf" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > nfs_client_flags="-n 4" > inetd_enable="YES" > syslog_ng_enable="YES" > syslog_ng_pid="/var/run/syslog-ng.pid" > > > > cheers, > > Noah > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 21:07:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC8B16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5B713C4B4 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1QL6wln014842; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:06:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070226150603.024e3358@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:06:45 -0600 To: Sean Murphy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <45E33D11.2000002@calarts.edu> References: <45E33D11.2000002@calarts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: isc dhcpd startup script error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:07:38 -0000 Check your rc script, you may need to add the full path to chown! -Derek At 02:03 PM 2/26/2007, Sean Murphy wrote: >FreeBSD 6.2 >Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.5 > >ISC DHCP server I installed from ports after cvsuping > > >I run > >/usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd start > >chown: not found >/usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd: WARNING: unable to change permissions of >/var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases > >however dhcpd works and runs > >I tried the > >usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd install > >then run the start script but receive the same thing. > >What am I doing wrong? > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 21:25:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50A816A506 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493F813C4B5 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so347097wri for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:25:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p07BRrtlS4oef1sPNsG20xe0iAkRePaiPoCxo3l8yWoLrJVMEKA0TmmmqhqHin9c6eYccZglOJ+/LTofMGsukBnXAbeqC+1b/kCAmjsEXgnEArcbFPV/x0BynBHh7hk3cc1Tt17igrGpg3FQcG6NjzJ23B6uwxzAUSN4FZADvmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=biS9KVg8fktb5XXhO3r6zJjFrEN+8FSlLxlJSsrm2hW54dpi8uWmouW/PsN9e02+Hqc3Scl96QsTq4sw2huIkRdCbt0A3+CurNZArmiltN3fl+PLFArTKVvYtZaQzvQKf7LA0lb3b2jCC2C15SPIBfvhulcGui7Gz1fsahQoB3g= Received: by 10.114.155.1 with SMTP id c1mr19864wae.1172525149788; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.95.19 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:25:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:25:49 +1300 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: chris@chrismaness.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:25:51 -0000 Outlook has some good features, no doubt about that, but it's not a great IMAP client. Outlook Express is better - doesn't use Personal Storage Files that grow into insane sizes and suffer corruption, plus allows you to relocate Special Folders to the IMAP server, like Sent Messages and Drafts. You want to be able to do this, trust me. OE is also much quicker. Thunderbird has its own set of issues, but it's the best readily available IMAP client for Windows users currently. The latest beta of version 2.0 works rather nicely. It doesn't have the features corporate Outlook users expect though, like good contacts management, calendaring and ability to synch with mobile devices. If Outlook was a better IMAP client and could be coaxed into handling email properly without resorting to VBA hacks, I'd switch to it. Unfortunately however, Microsoft is turning a deaf ear to fixing those issues, and Outlook 2007 for instance has taken a few steps forward (better IMAP support) but also some backwards (quoting is badly broken by default). Bringing it back to FreeBSD, Outlook will work with any old IMAP server. Just not as well as other clients. -- Juha http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 21:26:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F054816A406 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92C413C4B2 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1QLNZRn060209; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:23:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1QLNZtN060208; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:23:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:23:35 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: josh.carroll@psualum.com Message-ID: <20070226212335.GA60165@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <8cb6106e0702261053k5cf8c64eod62cb2cd498bb87a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0702261053k5cf8c64eod62cb2cd498bb87a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:26:04 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:53:20AM -0800, Josh Carroll wrote: > >My question is: How do I respond to this? > >I have seen the word patch used in security update messages - but > >didn't follow that path. Is that real? Does it cover kernel > >things essentially on the fly or is a 'time consuming' rebuild > >still needed? > > 6.2 now official supports binary patches via freebsd-update(8). From > the 6.2-RELEASE announcement > (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html): > > "freebsd-update(8) provides officially supported binary updates for > security fixes and errata patches" > > So there's your response. :) Thank you. I didn't realize my question is to cutting edge - so to speak. I saw a few posts mentioning update, but didn't take the time to follow them and didn't realize their possible relevance. So, good news! ////jerry > > Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 21:28:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADE016A4A9 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF2513C461 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1QLPZlu060230; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:25:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1QLPZi3060229; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:25:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:25:35 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20070226212535.GB60165@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070226201148.GC71962@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070226201148.GC71962@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:28:08 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:11:48PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Feb 26), Jerry said: > > I am being forced to use something besides FreeBSD - probably Susie > > or Red Hat Linux for the base of a server system. The primary reason > > given is that when security issues come along, FreeBSD has no way of > > patching the running system, but rather requires rebuilding the > > system - CVSUP, make, install, etc whereas Susie and Red Hat can be > > patched on the fly. I presume this means kernel type security stuff > > rather than concerns about third party software. > > FreeBSD can be patched on the fly just as easily as Linux. In both > cases: Kernel fixes require a reboot. Fixes to running deamons require > them to be restarted. Fixes to shared libraries require all running > programs using them to be restarted (usually simpler to just reboot). > > YAST/up2date/whatever may automatically restart daemons (I know apt-get > in Debian does), but for something like a libc update, the fact that > the file is delivered via an RPM versus a "make install" step doesn't > save you from a reboot. I rather thought that, but wasn't informed enough at the time to make an argument. This will take some diplomacy around here, but, this is helpful. Thanks, ////jerry > > > My question is: How do I respond to this? I have seen the word > > patch used in security update messages - but didn't follow that path. > > Is that real? Does it cover kernel things essentially on the fly or > > is a 'time consuming' rebuild still needed? > > A patch lets you fix the problem listed in the security advisory > without necessarily having to do a full buildworld. The SA-07:02.bind > advisory, for example, gives instructions on how to patch, rebuild, > install, and restart named. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 21:39:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB8016A403 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dakfreebsd@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB3F13C441 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dakfreebsd@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so506530nza for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:39:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cmEFORbebsdBp8qCipnJCxmd5IKLqq0YpEc8Zoni90IcxQzj/Ir5lm6OZohEoaqE50LY93QmJRns2pLHxHgyRy73vJtJu1LmnjMqL3FmVzhp5GqIq+BTes/EQxjHntCDP65fF46pVjByOpgj0QVENUwq1z7fnu0o3ojwel5sKpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=gPHPKhBeBchKIQQXP8rCmJMqVxqnjkbvwe1en8iX6C4/rcPgT7Q1+BsVde4a7IQq9w+nzAkkP2xEaO1/pa4IubyEPUQnxzaPZbEoZanChyoeDaDVGMchpwpgLBzhJ6tmOiyPmDuE+TXvMrgGyUfdyyG+hnA0t0drQXQMhmd1dWU= Received: by 10.114.156.1 with SMTP id d1mr52639wae.1172525947286; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.157.16 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:39:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5df74baa0702261339w7b2fac38v3e5f9f0dafd90f11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:39:07 -0500 From: "DAK GHATIKACHALAM" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FDISK output question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:39:11 -0000 Hi Freebsd Question about FDISK Do you have an idea what does that '+' means in Blocks columns as seen below it is 419425019+ Does it signify anything , because for certain disks I do not see that '+' as the end of blocks? Thanks Dak [root@kali root]# fdisk /dev/sdk The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 52216. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdk: 429.4 GB, 429496729600 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 52216 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdk1 1 52216 419425019+ 83 Linux Command (m for help): From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 21:55:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D34616A46C for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFB013C4E5 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1QLtIjB083234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E35741.5010301@enabled.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:55:13 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: configuring console on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:55:28 -0000 running 6.2 I am trying to get the console DB9 port to work. I want to be able to log in via the DB9 port and alos I want console messages to continue to output to the VGA card as well. Adding the following: echo 'console="comconsole"' >> /boot/loader.conf stops the dumping of console messages to the VGA during boot. What changes do I need to make to make that happen? Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 22:10:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F7516A54F for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B936E13C642 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from adsl-69-210-76-143.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net ([69.210.76.143] helo=cheyenne.sixcompanies.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HLo3B-000KrJ-J8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:10:29 -0500 Received: from coors.sixcompanies.com (coors.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.5]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1QMAStZ034720; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:28 -0600 (CST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 69.210.76.143 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: lonebandit Message-Id: <200702262210.l1QMAStZ034720@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:28 -0600 To: Noah From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <45E35741.5010301@enabled.com> References: <45E35741.5010301@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: configuring console on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:10:40 -0000 At 01:55 PM 2/26/2007 -0800, Noah wrote: >running 6.2 > >I am trying to get the console DB9 port to work. I want to be able >to log in via the DB9 port and alos I want console messages to >continue to output to the VGA card as well. > >Adding the following: > >echo 'console="comconsole"' >> /boot/loader.conf > >stops the dumping of console messages to the VGA during boot. > > >What changes do I need to make to make that happen? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html the manual/handbook is a great thing. -JD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 22:33:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA2216A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D744C13C467 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1QMXKpC086873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:33:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E3602B.9090301@enabled.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:33:15 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E32743.2010405@enabled.com> <20070226190721.GA7434@kobe.laptop> <45E334F0.50907@mac.com> <45E3442F.5010907@enabled.com> <45E34EBE.30807@rz.tu-clausthal.de> In-Reply-To: <45E34EBE.30807@rz.tu-clausthal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sshd attempting to start twice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:33:21 -0000 Oliver Koch wrote: > Hi, > > Noah schrieb: > > >> its commented out >> >> # grep ssh /etc/inetd.conf >> #ssh stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/sshd sshd -i -4 >> #ssh stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/sbin/sshd sshd -i -6 >> > > could you please post your sshd_config? Perhabs there's something wrong. > > Kind regards, > > Oliver > > sure thing access2# cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config # This is ssh server systemwide configuration file. # # The master copy of this file is on # red:/etc/local/dist/files/sshd_config_openssh # # $FreeBSD: src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config,v 1.4.2.5 2001/01/18 22:36:53 green Exp $ Port 22 #Protocol 2,1 Protocol 2 #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 #ListenAddress :: HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key HostDsaKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key ServerKeyBits 768 LoginGraceTime 120 KeyRegenerationInterval 3600 #PermitRootLogin yes PermitRootLogin without-password # ConnectionsPerPeriod has been deprecated completely # After 10 unauthenticated connections, refuse 30% of the new ones, and # refuse any more than 60 total. MaxStartups 10:30:60 # Don't read ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files IgnoreRhosts yes # Uncomment if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for RhostsRSAAuthentication #IgnoreUserKnownHosts yes StrictModes yes X11Forwarding yes X11DisplayOffset 10 PrintMotd yes KeepAlive yes # Logging SyslogFacility AUTH LogLevel INFO #obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging # For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts RhostsRSAAuthentication no # RSAAuthentication yes # To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here! PasswordAuthentication yes PermitEmptyPasswords no # Uncomment to disable s/key passwords SkeyAuthentication no #KbdInteractiveAuthentication yes # To change Kerberos options #KerberosAuthentication no #KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes #AFSTokenPassing no #KerberosTicketCleanup no # Kerberos TGT Passing does only work with the AFS kaserver #KerberosTgtPassing yes #CheckMail yes UseLogin no #UseDNS yes # Uncomment if you want to enable sftp Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server Banner /etc/ssh/ssh_banner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 22:38:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380D216A403; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C9713C47E; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCA47E8C3; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:38:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rXT945wjvabt; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194017E8BF; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:38:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org><200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net><228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org><003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <73B261EE-79C5-4773-B563-9D9FCA16B4C8@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:38:10 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , Kip Macy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:38:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, My system does boot off of disc 1 of the FreeBSD 6.2 CD. However, even when copying the /boot directory from the CD to my machine, it still produces the same kernel panic, even when starting in safe mode. I've run a memtest, and it checked out fine. There must be something in my user space or world that it barfs on. I guess I will try a clean install and rebuild at some point... If you have any other ideas, I'm all ears! Here is my error message again (with verbose logging enabled, although that has no effect on this output): > WARNING: Device driver " > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0x400000 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 > stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 898 (kldload) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > uptime: 36s > cannot dump. No dump device defined > automatic reboot in 15 seconds Thanks again for your time! - ----------- Joe Auty NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians http://www.netmusician.org joe@netmusician.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD4DBQFF42FSCgdfeCwsL5ERArNQAJ9pEyu3ZT3BXe4YhEsgRsid6fB+SwCXeGjO fO0GeeBUPKKYq4N5rRHDTw== =PgI8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 23:58:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BFF16A407 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: from justnosweat.net (justnosweat.net [80.126.252.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2243113C540 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: from justnosweat.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by justnosweat.net (8.13.6/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l1NMkegj082393 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:46:40 GMT (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by justnosweat.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1NMkeI7082392; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:46:40 GMT (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) From: Justin Schlingmann X-Authentication-Warning: justnosweat.net: www set sender to justins@justnosweat.net using -f Received: from 192.168.50.14 (SquirrelMail authenticated user justins) by webmail.justnosweat.net with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <2504.192.168.50.14.1172270800.squirrel@webmail.justnosweat.net> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0000 (UTC) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ONE_WORD_SUBJECT, RM_KNOWN_WEBMAIL autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on justnosweat.net Subject: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:58:15 -0000 Lets see if the mailserver can find my hostname from 80.126.252.242 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 23:58:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E568416A40B for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: from justnosweat.net (justnosweat.net [80.126.252.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F54713C553 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: from justnosweat.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by justnosweat.net (8.13.6/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l1M0WZ3p074608 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:32:35 GMT (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: from localhost (justins@localhost) by justnosweat.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id l1M0WZic074605 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:32:35 GMT (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:32:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Justin Schlingmann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070222002913.X74520@justnosweat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on justnosweat.net Subject: samba read failure for 4. Error = Operation timed out X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:58:17 -0000 Hello, I have a samba server running on my freebsd 5.5 machine. I installed samba-2.2.12_2 and i get this log error message. [2007/02/20 15:50:19, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(436) read_data: read failure for 4. Error = Operation timed out I get this message in my /var/log/messages. I`ve been looking for over three weeks now and i can`t seem to find the reason for this error message. I`ve disbled oplocks on my windows machine but that doesn`t help me in fixing this problem. i put oplocks = no level2 oplocks = no locking =yes kernel oplocks = no in my /usr/local/etc/smb.conf but the error log keeps appearing. Is there any one who can help me with this problem. Is there anyone who has had the same error message??? Thanks in adcance, Justin Schlingmann. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 00:05:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E1E16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925E413C49D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1R05aTj093137 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E375CA.3050602@enabled.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:05:30 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: enabling console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:05:36 -0000 Hi, so I am want to enabled entering the DDB Debugger from the Serial Line. here is my /usr/src/sys/i386/conf Why arent the options working? --- snip --- include GENERIC ident SMP-LOCAL # To make an SMP kernel, the next line is needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER options DDB --- snip --- here is the error during the build: # make buildkernel KERNCONF='LOCAL' > buildkernel.LOCAL.output ./aicasm: 880 instructions used ./aicasm: 826 instructions used /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c:101:2: #error KDB must be enabled in order for DDB to work! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 00:19:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA53116A411 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B09C13C4A3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 70662 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2007 00:19:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2007 00:19:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cWFuJ2YVM1mO9fmXP46dt5s0A1NWu5DFzQZyXUfPBD36XPeYp42cdKCnz3mp_82QPg-- Message-ID: <45E37903.2040409@hier7.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:19:15 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <45E375CA.3050602@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <45E375CA.3050602@enabled.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: enabling console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:19:15 -0000 Noah wrote: > Hi, > > so I am want to enabled entering the DDB Debugger from the Serial Line. > > (snip) > > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c:101:2: #error KDB must be enabled in > order for DDB to work! Maybe you could try: options KDB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 00:52:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C53F16A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C548113C481 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E60133C90; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:22:38 +1030 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB29C1A9CBF; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:22:38 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:22:38 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Justin Schlingmann Message-ID: <20070227005238.GL70738@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <2504.192.168.50.14.1172270800.squirrel@webmail.justnosweat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BxZB57hXMgIq1JsC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2504.192.168.50.14.1172270800.squirrel@webmail.justnosweat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:52:41 -0000 --BxZB57hXMgIq1JsC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 23 February 2007 at 22:46:40 -0000, Justin Schlingmann wrote: > Lets see if the mailserver can find my hostname from 80.126.252.242 I think we're going to have to put this in the charter: please do *not* send "test" messages to tens of thousands of people when you just want to test your own configuration. We have a mailing list freebsd-test@FreeBSD.org exactly for that purpose. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --BxZB57hXMgIq1JsC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF44DWIubykFB6QiMRAoUDAKCWXhhQYqcU+CrJ9vcCHWm4VxcK5QCeIEpA jFP8uNgA5AIu8MLFiUS88mw= =g3eU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BxZB57hXMgIq1JsC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 01:36:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9953B16A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5962F13C442 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (p3.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.235]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1R102R9086110 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:00:03 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:36:51 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > Steve Bertrand wrote: >>> anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap. >>> simply don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap. >> >> This is not as feasible as stated. Changing 500 users from Outlook to >> something they have likely never seen is always a nightmare, even if >> the subtleties are small. >> >> Try explaining that to upper management..."uh, we are getting rid of >> your Outlook, as well as everyone elses because our server won't work >> with it. It should only take an hour per user to transfer everything >> over to the new software, and most users will experience data loss >> because not all parts are transferable." In short, it would cost less >> to install Exchange than it would to migrate, train and re-create >> data for that many users. >> >> To the OP...have you checked the log files on the server to check for >> errors? I have numerous Outlook and OE users who use IMAP over SSL, >> and SMTP Auth on port 587 (again with SSL). We do not use SPA. We use >> courier-imap and qmail, and have vpopmail managing the multiple domains. >> >> Almost all of our domains have to use their full email address as >> username. I have seen before however, that sometimes Outlook will try >> to append their domain to the username (eg: user@domain.com\MSdomain >> or something similar) so the problem may rest there. >> >> Depending on what IMAP server you use, the log file may be >> /var/log/maillog. It should give you an idea of where to start looking. >> >> Steve > > I honestly do think that MS Outlook complies as well as other IMAP > clients, just like MS and their IE browser >_>... > > For example, the University of Washington has the following for their > email client page: > http://www.washington.edu/computing/email/programs.html#configuring , > and if you note the location of outlook (the bottom) along with the > information "we don't support this", then maybe you get a hunch about > how usable Outlook is with IMAP. > > The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they > develop that mailserver. > > I'd look at the directions a bit though, see what's going on, but yes > authentication does work with SSL/TLS, and it works well from what I > can understand. Otherwise other depts (like the one I was working for > at the UW) would complain about not being to use Outlook, unless it > was Exchange related. > > -Garrett > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I use the UW thing with OE it works fine, better than TBird actually. Just specify ssl, put mail in as the folder, I'm good. Brian Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 01:36:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDC116A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B0B13C491 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (p3.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.235]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1R13dcA086130; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <45E3836C.7010701@sonicboom.org> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:03:40 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: josh.carroll@psualum.com References: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <8cb6106e0702261053k5cf8c64eod62cb2cd498bb87a@mail.gmail.com> <57d710000702261058x78723aa3s30605d88082e7ec1@mail.gmail.com> <8cb6106e0702261100k663a2322wc4dc0c57555821bf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0702261100k663a2322wc4dc0c57555821bf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry , pete wright , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:36:52 -0000 Josh Carroll wrote: >> and you can update your third party packages via binary packages >> (which you can get from freebsd.org or build yourself)...so it seems >> these two solutions would be a great fit. > > Right, using packages instead of ports means he can do binary updates > of packages as well, without having to recompile them from ports for > version updates. > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Assuming the package is available, which is not always the case. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 01:41:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4FE16A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: from dansknet.dk (smtp1.dansknet.dk [85.233.229.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 614EA13C4A5 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: (qmail 7174 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2007 01:43:42 -0000 Received: from 85233230230.switch.dansknet.dk (HELO dansknet.dk) (85.233.230.230) by dansknet.dk with SMTP; 27 Feb 2007 01:43:42 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:46:04 +0100 From: Rico Secada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070227024604.635df480.coolzone@io.dk> In-Reply-To: <200702261333.03090.freebsd01@dgmm.net> References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> <45E227C8.7010409@next.online.no> <20070226063226.fbe91fc3.coolzone@io.dk> <200702261333.03090.freebsd01@dgmm.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Quanta+ freezes after upgrading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:41:42 -0000 On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:33:02 +0000 dgmm wrote: > On Monday 26 February 2007 05:32, Rico Secada wrote: > > Since I upgraded KDE to 3.5.5 Quanta+ always freezes when I try to start it > > up. It doesn't do anything. No errors, just a freeze, and a CPU usage of > > 97%. > > > > Has anyone else experienced problems with Quanta+ since KDE 3.5.5? > > > No, as I've not upgraded yet, but to help those who might be able to help you, > open a shell window and run quanta from there so you can see all the output > as the program loads up. Odds are you'll see it stuck in a loop of some kind > looking for files or trying to find backups. > I wish! :-) There is no output. > -- > Dave > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 01:43:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4990F16A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from celso.vianna@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA69913C4B8 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from celso.vianna@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so898631ugh for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:43:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SHZ3yZyTn/Bf8hmdgM5GjUYjZhAOhzbjzakEEKvfMQvLwu15oaz3cXnk8hE0r7yYgIgdwPbij2fNFmgh6ET7WcVBH5cYwJTociw5zc1c5GzVY2VL+BhtZPvEAxulbKFMF4Rvh0lPeMg/LPhFdjyhazVWPxnNLqFASFL5bljMDBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Cesftbr/ueeiwD/FZNTVMBmsF6Zdi/Y7KnvTlGvZ+jM0aLpyJC0sF/rKiaaVl9lPCADIqTl518jUui4UFNim2Gm+WdbHyI69rgghoUcWlxuTTM0FqB5u8zLiQsZpV/+ljCyzccNnQ937kliV38FlKzV+5lzIj7OH0Bv3G6o1x5E= Received: by 10.78.189.5 with SMTP id m5mr520439huf.1172539099189; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.160.9 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:18:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2b6bd2cc0702261718h6a5c8f7i9194afe20f5dc57d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:18:19 -0300 From: "Celso Viana" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: amd(aumount) and smbfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:43:34 -0000 Hi all, Somebody knows if it is possible to use smfbs with amd (automount)? Thanks -- Celso Vianna BSD User: 51318 http://www.bsdcounter.org 63 8404-8559 Palmas/TO From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 01:52:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F52216A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noah@juniper.net) Received: from borg.juniper.net (borg.juniper.net [207.17.137.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF7613C478 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noah@juniper.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamma.jnpr.net) ([172.24.245.25]) by borg.juniper.net with ESMTP; 26 Feb 2007 17:24:30 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,222,1170662400"; d="scan'208"; a="682288110:sNHT31434956" Received: from emailsmtp55.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.132]) by gamma.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:24:30 -0800 Received: from [172.23.10.40] ([172.23.10.40]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:24:26 -0800 Message-ID: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:24:25 -0800 From: Noah Garrett Wallach User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2007 01:24:26.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[04FED500:01C75A0E] Subject: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:52:55 -0000 Hi there, named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant figure out why. there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot process. even when I manually start there are no error messages. # grep named /etc/rc.conf named_enable="YES" # pkg_info | grep bind bind9-9.3.4 Completely new version of the BIND DNS suite with updated D # grep BIND messages Feb 26 11:50:53 access2 named[1704]: starting BIND 9.3.3 Feb 26 14:07:19 access2 named[990]: starting BIND 9.3.3 Feb 26 17:19:59 access2 named[966]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf Feb 26 17:20:07 access2 named[974]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf Feb 26 17:20:19 access2 named[981]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf # /etc/rc.d/named stop # /etc/rc.d/named start # grep BIND messages Feb 26 11:50:53 access2 named[1704]: starting BIND 9.3.3 Feb 26 14:07:19 access2 named[990]: starting BIND 9.3.3 Feb 26 17:19:59 access2 named[966]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf Feb 26 17:20:07 access2 named[974]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf Feb 26 17:20:19 access2 named[981]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf Feb 26 17:23:46 access2 named[1005]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf any clues please? Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 02:19:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A6016A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EF413C48D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.145.126]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R2Ix6F042609; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:19:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E39504.8000902@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:18:44 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah Garrett Wallach References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> In-Reply-To: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:19:10 -0000 Noah Garrett Wallach wrote: > Hi there, > > named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant > figure out why. > there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot process. > > even when I manually start there are no error messages. Have you tried with "-fg" ? There are a lot of really quick restarts in that log snippet around "5:20" .... > any clues please? Not really, most of the time I think I'm completely clueless ;-) Kevin Kinsey -- I've been there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 02:21:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCAC16A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noah@juniper.net) Received: from borg.juniper.net (borg.juniper.net [207.17.137.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F30A13C4A7 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noah@juniper.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamma.jnpr.net) ([172.24.245.25]) by borg.juniper.net with ESMTP; 26 Feb 2007 18:21:21 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,222,1170662400"; d="scan'208"; a="682321139:sNHT31479380" Received: from emailsmtp55.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.132]) by gamma.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:21:19 -0800 Received: from [172.23.10.40] ([172.23.10.40]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:21:13 -0800 Message-ID: <45E39595.80802@juniper.net> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:21:09 -0800 From: Noah Garrett Wallach User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> <45E39504.8000902@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <45E39504.8000902@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2007 02:21:14.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[F464FAA0:01C75A15] Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:21:20 -0000 Kevin, those were manual restarts. cheers, Noah Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Noah Garrett Wallach wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant >> figure out why. >> there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot >> process. >> >> even when I manually start there are no error messages. > > Have you tried with "-fg" ? There are a lot of really quick restarts > in that log snippet around "5:20" .... > > > > >> any clues please? > > Not really, most of the time I think I'm completely clueless ;-) > > Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 02:24:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56D716A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7646513C4B6 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B335568600DD9; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id p5BeU3918III; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 9603C68600DD8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:24:42 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Brian wrote: >Garrett Cooper wrote: ... >>I honestly do think that MS Outlook complies as well as other IMAP >>clients, just like MS and their IE browser >_>... >> >>For example, the University of Washington has the following for their >>email client page: >>http://www.washington.edu/computing/email/programs.html#configuring , >>and if you note the location of outlook (the bottom) along with the >>information "we don't support this", then maybe you get a hunch about >>how usable Outlook is with IMAP. >> >>The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they >>develop that mailserver. As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap (where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-). We've been using courier-imap for about seven years now with thousands of users at our ISP customer's sites. One of our first installations was at a local newspaper group, and I had problems at first until I discovered the build option ``--enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs'' which cured the problems with broken Microsoft software (but I repeat myself). Courier-imap uses qmail-style Maildir mail stores which I much prefer to the monolithic files used by uw-imap as they make life generally easier: + The store each message in its own file where the file name consists of a time stamp, sequence, hostname, and status. + This method of storage eliminates all file locking problems so works well with clusters of servers writing and reading e-mail. + There aren't any issues when deleting messages as one has with the single-file stores where the entire file must be rewritten. + Unlike Cyrus-IMAP, which also uses per-file message stores, the Maildir format doesn't have a semi-proprietary database so works well with other Unix tools (e.g. you want to delete all files over thirty days old from a mail store, a command like this works a treat): find ~user/Maildir -mtime +30 | xargs rm Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. 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Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C7713C48E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so27485nfc for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:51:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=krht0KCORh2gX65r3x1rMJ0vVqd4iREi+/fsJ79Mipuan1JF+2T/p7Iq2ED/a61ZGbDTFidKgg5YO0K3tY6B63yYl0pK2gau2GUetrCxvgYe6FReu2vDtzVEV3/TxLX3TkPsUDbNEXh2LDFM9VYTccqb1MwVW5K9PZnV/4fsD1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e1lS5gAF4EDj8ZBWq6ix+G2TxIYMpTTLmrDIaSw9tKJoK2Am4c7hYEL3jUPaP0TiV7DEStP65kjJa94Kro0nezKG4BRQchz+D/pzNUOnpPGywzc6iLDGhdKftQ6NcWBlJbg+Dnaz6QbkqWTR8UwwSdITlSAFlM6lvvWT2S1V5Yk= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr2092118bue.1172544706301; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.151.15 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:51:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:51:46 -0800 From: "Kip Macy" To: "Joe Auty" In-Reply-To: <73B261EE-79C5-4773-B563-9D9FCA16B4C8@netmusician.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> <200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> <228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org> <003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <73B261EE-79C5-4773-B563-9D9FCA16B4C8@netmusician.org> Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:51:48 -0000 It looks like it may be loading an out of sync kernel module. Cleaning out /boot/modules might help. -Kip On 2/26/07, Joe Auty wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Well, > > My system does boot off of disc 1 of the FreeBSD 6.2 CD. However, > even when copying the /boot directory from the CD to my machine, it > still produces the same kernel panic, even when starting in safe > mode. I've run a memtest, and it checked out fine. > > There must be something in my user space or world that it barfs on. I > guess I will try a clean install and rebuild at some point... > > If you have any other ideas, I'm all ears! > > Here is my error message again (with verbose logging enabled, > although that has no effect on this output): > > > > WARNING: Device driver " > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > fault virtual address = 0x400000 > > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 > > stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > > frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c > > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b > > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > > processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > > current process = 898 (kldload) > > trap number = 12 > > panic: page fault > > uptime: 36s > > cannot dump. No dump device defined > > automatic reboot in 15 seconds > > > Thanks again for your time! > > > - ----------- > Joe Auty > NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians > http://www.netmusician.org > joe@netmusician.org > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) > > iD4DBQFF42FSCgdfeCwsL5ERArNQAJ9pEyu3ZT3BXe4YhEsgRsid6fB+SwCXeGjO > fO0GeeBUPKKYq4N5rRHDTw== > =PgI8 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 02:54:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD95916A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B281B13C4A7 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B335568600DD9; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id p5BeU3918III; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 9603C68600DD8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:31:03 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:54:16 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Brian wrote: >Garrett Cooper wrote: ... >>I honestly do think that MS Outlook complies as well as other IMAP >>clients, just like MS and their IE browser >_>... >> >>For example, the University of Washington has the following for their >>email client page: >>http://www.washington.edu/computing/email/programs.html#configuring , >>and if you note the location of outlook (the bottom) along with the >>information "we don't support this", then maybe you get a hunch about >>how usable Outlook is with IMAP. >> >>The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they >>develop that mailserver. As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap (where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-). We've been using courier-imap for about seven years now with thousands of users at our ISP customer's sites. One of our first installations was at a local newspaper group, and I had problems at first until I discovered the build option ``--enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs'' which cured the problems with broken Microsoft software (but I repeat myself). Courier-imap uses qmail-style Maildir mail stores which I much prefer to the monolithic files used by uw-imap as they make life generally easier: + The store each message in its own file where the file name consists of a time stamp, sequence, hostname, and status. + This method of storage eliminates all file locking problems so works well with clusters of servers writing and reading e-mail. + There aren't any issues when deleting messages as one has with the single-file stores where the entire file must be rewritten. + Unlike Cyrus-IMAP, which also uses per-file message stores, the Maildir format doesn't have a semi-proprietary database so works well with other Unix tools (e.g. you want to delete all files over thirty days old from a mail store, a command like this works a treat): find ~user/Maildir -mtime +30 | xargs rm Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 A fake fortuneteller can be tolerated. But an authentic soothsayer should be shot on sight. Cassandra did not get half the kicking around she deserved. -- R.A. Heinlein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 03:04:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB05F16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A51F13C48D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1R34p6I016864; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:04:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l1R34plA016861; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:04:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:04:51 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" In-Reply-To: <20070227005238.GL70738@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: <20070226195720.K16785@wonkity.com> References: <2504.192.168.50.14.1172270800.squirrel@webmail.justnosweat.net> <20070227005238.GL70738@wantadilla.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:04:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:04:52 -0000 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 23 February 2007 at 22:46:40 -0000, Justin Schlingmann wrote: >> Lets see if the mailserver can find my hostname from 80.126.252.242 > > I think we're going to have to put this in the charter: please do > *not* send "test" messages to tens of thousands of people when you > just want to test your own configuration. We have a mailing list > freebsd-test@FreeBSD.org exactly for that purpose. A notice on the web page here might help: http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html With it between the Mailing List Archives and English Mailing Lists sections, saying something like: Test Messages The lists freebsd-test, ..., ... have been created for test messages. Please use only these test lists for test messages. Do not send test messages to any of the normal lists. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 03:07:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185F716A404 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E652D13C47E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1R37Flc013689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:07:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E3A05D.4030207@enabled.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:07:09 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: single mode console does not display on VGA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:07:22 -0000 Hi thre, so I boot freeBSD 6.2 in single user mode and I no longer have output on the VGA after the "Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a" boot line. the console is fine and can interact with the machine. my boot options are ---- snip --- # cat /boot/loader.conf accf_http_load="YES" boot_multicons="YES" boot_serial="YES" console="comconsole,vidconsole" ---- snip --- How can I keep the interaction visible on the monitor plugged in VGA when booted in single user mode? Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 03:20:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6724E16A404 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BC713C49D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937BC68600DD9; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:26:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sQro6d1T54xB; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 7721B68600DD8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:26:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:26:28 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Greg 'groggy' Lehey Message-ID: <20070227032628.GA20631@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Greg 'groggy' Lehey References: <2504.192.168.50.14.1172270800.squirrel@webmail.justnosweat.net> <20070227005238.GL70738@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20070226195720.K16785@wonkity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070226195720.K16785@wonkity.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:20:12 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Warren Block wrote: >On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >>On Friday, 23 February 2007 at 22:46:40 -0000, Justin Schlingmann wrote: >>>Lets see if the mailserver can find my hostname from 80.126.252.242 >> >>I think we're going to have to put this in the charter: please do >>*not* send "test" messages to tens of thousands of people when you >>just want to test your own configuration. We have a mailing list >>freebsd-test@FreeBSD.org exactly for that purpose. > >A notice on the web page here might help: > >http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html > >With it between the Mailing List Archives and English Mailing Lists >sections, saying something like: > >Test Messages > >The lists freebsd-test, ..., ... have been created for test messages. >Please use only these test lists for test messages. > >Do not send test messages to any of the normal lists. If you do send test messages, at least put some humour in them :-). Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 ``The Income Tax has made more Liars out of American people than Golf has.'' Will Rogers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 03:27:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D2B16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8458B13C478 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so916497ugh for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:27:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=BhHrVlhFVrigPtbpSQLTqy8e+HmH9vf6ezRHHTpUl7nbh/91SruLcP1UEr639cbF040uLkBF0UxVz4hppRWxKWGafsHxhFTmSLlVYSW7WM6E0Wfb6gtPY2cZwc4pLAIoPjeGlRhvC+AKAJrv4zhb+epnDZZIbAKWU6dwRBwFpqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XT3PWKtGJEins/4n8Is/FMj8/mWFoT6RoOQoNB8nekr2/klxmk+hV4ziJAsrsFRDpOYbB45hCoO/kZdwvGUN96XCYIDKeeOQXmVMmsUQJt1phHqka9NspgLdlVQk6/zXHcYsIezFznrbRYhjy6y8YTcB0DQMo8KkiV8Z5jUoGmY= Received: by 10.114.192.1 with SMTP id p1mr242712waf.1172546861343; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.73.6 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:27:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:27:41 -0700 From: "Kelly Jones" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com, nmlug@nmlug.org, nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Effectively detaching 'less' from a pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:27:44 -0000 I often run commands piped to 'less', to make sure the command is working OK by looking at the first few lines of output. Once I'm convinced, though, I'd like to "get rid" of less, and just have the rest of stdout spewed to the terminal (and/or /dev/null and/or to a file I specify). In other words, I want to stop hitting 'space' until my program terminates. How can I do this? My current kludges (both ugly): 1. do "command > file" and then "tail -f file | less" (this mostly works, but takes a while to get started because of buffering issues) 2. do "command | less", and once I'm happy w/ the output, hit 'q' to quit less (and thus terminate program) and then do "command > /dev/null" (works, but wastes time, since I have to run the command once just to look at the first few lines and then abort it) -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 03:46:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EC816A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9E013C428 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54401E0168; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:46:58 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 9IwG+EVFqYAGZrnUbP9TFHJpyFowM6nAiryYGqeL/G8w 1172548017 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926051DC5D; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:46:56 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> References: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:46:53 -0600 To: Kelly Jones X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Effectively detaching 'less' from a pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:46:59 -0000 [I've removed the lists for which I'm not a member] On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Kelly Jones wrote: > I often run commands piped to 'less', to make sure the command is > working OK by looking at the first few lines of output. > > Once I'm convinced, though, I'd like to "get rid" of less, and just > have the rest of stdout spewed to the terminal (and/or /dev/null > and/or to a file I specify). > > In other words, I want to stop hitting 'space' until my program > terminates. > > How can I do this? man tee so command | tee outputfile | less Then :q out of less when you are done and the output will have gone to outputfile -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:05:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F8916A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C8913C4A3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1R45E3g026252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:05:15 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1R45E4K003219 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:05:14 -0800 Message-ID: <45E3ADE7.6080803@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:04:55 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> <20070226214106.W38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070226214106.W38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.26.194934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:05:15 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> the extra features of on exchange server some place (shared calendars >> etc), getting users to move away from Outhouse is a major security >> improvement and reduces most of the email tech support calls. > > i provide services for users, including mail services with IMAP access. > and i often help users of my services how to configure their client > programs (which is often not my duty) for free. > > but i don't help solving problems that people willingly create, FOR > EXAMPLE by using Outlook for mail. > > other examples are using internet explorer, others are installing some > "magic firewalls" and "feeling secure" instead of just stopping all > windows network services and then running few really needed (often none). > > Other is using POP3 instead of IMAP, so no e-mails are kept on server > side (and backed up by me daily) and then > > but thats problems they are willingly creating, and chance to get some > cash providing data recovery services etc... > > people are allowed to be stupid. it's natural. no need to worry Sometimes managing calendars and corporate schedules can be a pain in the ass. I don't see how groups like Intel could do it any other way.. For smaller groups though, it isn't as necessary, yes.. Besides, I still like my Thunderbird / pine :). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:09:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523BA16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E91613C461 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1R49Ytc001501 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:09:34 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1R49Yfr003089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:09:34 -0800 Message-ID: <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:09:15 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.26.195433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_419_BADTHINGS 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:09:35 -0000 Juha Saarinen wrote: > Outlook has some good features, no doubt about that, but it's not a > great IMAP client. Outlook Express is better - doesn't use Personal > Storage Files that grow into insane sizes and suffer corruption, plus > allows you to relocate Special Folders to the IMAP server, like Sent > Messages and Drafts. You want to be able to do this, trust me. OE is > also much quicker. > > Thunderbird has its own set of issues, but it's the best readily > available IMAP client for Windows users currently. The latest beta of > version 2.0 works rather nicely. It doesn't have the features > corporate Outlook users expect though, like good contacts management, > calendaring and ability to synch with mobile devices. > > If Outlook was a better IMAP client and could be coaxed into handling > email properly without resorting to VBA hacks, I'd switch to it. > Unfortunately however, Microsoft is turning a deaf ear to fixing those > issues, and Outlook 2007 for instance has taken a few steps forward > (better IMAP support) but also some backwards (quoting is badly broken > by default). > > Bringing it back to FreeBSD, Outlook will work with any old IMAP > server. Just not as well as other clients. Unforunately you (and many others on the list) have missed the point I think. The OP said that he was stuck with outlook because of his pda syncing, and there definitely isn't a means available (or at least a good, popular one -- I know I'm inviting flames from KDE / Gnome lovers..), in Unix for PDA syncing because everyone chooses Windows. Bleh.. Even OSX doesn't have a good mobile device syncing tool and it's lightyears ahead of what Gnome and KDE have in some respects. I honestly would use another client for your mail though, since Gmail's pop3 service (while nice) is less than to be desired.. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:20:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3544A16A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8ACE13C4A6 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so473628wri for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:20:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BOhOS1cD+eSaODVxKTTXvYeb3RbwYbgwP84vDGyzAQ3W9cCfFmxN6DsrSTzf8zonJCcqRWQrH8T5FKiUKRW9YKabp0Qx9NNp+0cEBaJuC38PDAYXM/ObRi2eZWtCX7lEL3aijybUlbxvHSyjOVLDHOCxX233w374dEsKZorZafc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QlJRf4XfAexOQEYkwg/5NERT1aVVrLeNR0qgipZg91M2tpo5MHgTrl3USajd+aTC09T8JkGCS5KjvbrDXa2AyPmZFjzIsdO/q5vdkg2DGxbcQP2ioogKLcZSBnCG2JB+3sHjEA7+x8jj+EujTy04SA0nShVnLxPhM6siKKcIy1g= Received: by 10.114.122.2 with SMTP id u2mr265938wac.1172550055758; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:20:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <499c70c0702262020q55db885asb5c3933efab138bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:20:55 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "Joe Auty" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c70c0702252220h3ff71efoa3e4838df8177af9@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions , ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP 5.2.1 and the hard time with vbulletin 3.6.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:20:58 -0000 On 2/26/07, Joe Auty wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Have you recompiled all PHP extensions too? > > I believe the php5-pcre extension might handle perl regular > expressions (preg_replace) in PHP. > Yes I did portupgrade -f "php*" There is a thread about it in vbulletin http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1312516#post1312516 -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:31:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFBB16A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lwwoody@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net (rwcrmhc15.comcast.net [216.148.227.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5887913C47E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lwwoody@comcast.net) Received: from [10.0.1.200] (c-68-84-159-153.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[68.84.159.153]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id <20070227041611m1500c6qvte>; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:16:21 +0000 In-Reply-To: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> References: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: <440A76B3-1AEB-49EE-9FC4-90C63616C169@comcast.net> From: "Larry W. Wood" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:16:09 -0700 To: New Mexico Linux Users Group Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com, linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NMLUG] Effectively detaching 'less' from a pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:31:08 -0000 On Feb 26, 07, at 8:27 PM, Kelly Jones wrote: > I often run commands piped to 'less', to make sure the command is > working OK by looking at the first few lines of output. Don't use "less". Use "head" instead: command | head -n N (where N is the number of lines of the output you want to see) HTH! -- Woody From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:33:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C34916A406; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4E013C46B; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1R4XPT0082429; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:33:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l1R4XP4r082420; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:33:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:33:25 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Joe Auty Message-ID: <20070227043324.GX844@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <73B261EE-79C5-4773-B563-9D9FCA16B4C8@netmusician.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hoZxPH4CaxYzWscb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <73B261EE-79C5-4773-B563-9D9FCA16B4C8@netmusician.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:33:27 -0000 --hoZxPH4CaxYzWscb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-Feb-26 17:38:10 -0500, Joe Auty wrote: >My system does boot off of disc 1 of the FreeBSD 6.2 CD. That's a good start. Together with your memtest results, it suggests that your hardware is OK. > However, =20 >even when copying the /boot directory from the CD to my machine, it =20 >still produces the same kernel panic, even when starting in safe =20 >mode. Can you confirm that you have either deleted or renamed /boot before replacing it with files from the CD. An out-of-sync module does sound the most likely problem. If that doesn't help, please start DDB and get a backtrace. > I've run a memtest, and it checked out fine. Note that memtest cannot prove that your system doesn't have a problem. There are far too many states that your system could potentially be in. DRAM is especially susceptable to pattern- dependent and temporal glitches. >There must be something in my user space or world that it barfs on. I =20 >guess I will try a clean install and rebuild at some point... If you're not sure where this is being triggered, you could try adding 'rc_debug=3D"YES"' to your rc.conf (or even a 'set -x' if you are getting really desperate). This will make the boot sequence far more verbose. --=20 Peter Jeremy --hoZxPH4CaxYzWscb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF47SU/opHv/APuIcRArlRAJwL9cir++DoXaotiZir3Rt52uu7ewCdFfdb H0AeJK6fmsLJfxa1zwDblmE= =mqMV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hoZxPH4CaxYzWscb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:33:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB0816A421 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronggui.huang@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798513C471 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronggui.huang@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so476847wri for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:33:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MEfKiqMZ9UNd7UIW80Fy9ZL1HqnxEa7Gx4dPlmVL3ET53cXzebOh0udIS8RWRMPNOlKmjvqMX2g4vbWELIJ9k2G9KAcYM5k2JOEU6uiQn8ijRONiLl3RSrtbhDLVtt1QH+XFdzQFVMJ85BGMbrQ9iopunxEVQKCJjWTn15lLr38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=T4JNVstpwZ6D5ajrGEUIIT+a1yyN99Fh9m8S3ktla3+qzq2GR9FVVp3EZ51ruBtuAs7tbrKIqqIw6m7P3gMs2/KBRTOWErOKPJKuPlUbAWqAM1Xag0+Vd9w/aCFIEUsDcC5sOyDaEtfOpghBM4v2BMPo54QHA5inAe1mq4MGZb4= Received: by 10.114.131.2 with SMTP id e2mr269292wad.1172550819408; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.95.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:33:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38b9f0350702262033o297c564bg28fed42c175ee2a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:33:39 +0800 From: ronggui To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Is there any materials about customize hal? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:33:42 -0000 SSBoYXZlIGluc3RhbGxlZCBoYWwsIGFuZCBJIHVzZSBnbm9tZSBhcyBteSBkZXNrdG9wLgpNeSBs b2NhbGUgaXMgOgoKTXlCU0QlIGxvY2FsZQpMQU5HPXpoX0NOLmV1Y0NOCkxDX0NUWVBFPSJ6aF9D Ti5ldWNDTiIKTENfQ09MTEFURT0iemhfQ04uZXVjQ04iCkxDX1RJTUU9InpoX0NOLmV1Y0NOIgpM Q19OVU1FUklDPSJ6aF9DTi5ldWNDTiIKTENfTU9ORVRBUlk9InpoX0NOLmV1Y0NOIgpMQ19NRVNT QUdFUz0iemhfQ04uZXVjQ04iCkxDX0FMTD16aF9DTi5ldWNDTgoKV2hlbiB0aGUgaGFsIG1vdW50 cyBmbGFzaCBkaXNrLCBUaGUgZW5jb2RpbmcgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIGVsc2UgdGhhbgpHQjIzMTIs IHdoaWNoIG1ha2VzIG1lIGNhbiBub3QgcmVhZCB0aGUgQ2hpbmVzZSBjaGFyYWN0ZXIgY29ycmVj dGx5LiBJCndvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8ga25vdyBob3cgdG8gY3VzdG9taXplIHRoZSBoYWwuCgpJcyB0 aGVyZSBhbnkgc3VnZ2VzdGlvbiBvciBtYXRlcmlhbHMgYWJvdXQgaGFsIGN1c3RvbWl6YXRpb24/ CgpUaGFua3MuCgotLSAKUm9uZ2d1aSBIdWFuZwpEZXBhcnRtZW50IG9mIFNvY2lvbG9neQpGdWRh biBVbml2ZXJzaXR5LCBTaGFuZ2hhaSwgQ2hpbmEKu8bI2bnzCri0tam089Gnyee74dGnz7UK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:45:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A0F16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:45:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DA513C4B4 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so928145ugh for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:45:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UvktpcjG71RRhSsknKqk2ZamENARjkW9rJcjloSNdlbTUupNhUaLkwq5MO6PeRsZOq10ASBOPhIQdNmH+FSeRTq0uEuxg9hZEMpZm9mqp+FSJrt7YppoWOyVj+lxtt/1O0LS/CvbFNRwzyCn8tNXlOI/CkrwgJlJJ9Ik1EOTOg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=InyVdyWOM2rD6LZE9c/G4A5PHRxRTBNdTQpvXL19o3QRSfLbkVRaHhsoFLLVC4lrsE2F6wvKfdLtix+wdju4wrke4/fZ+wAmuR7+knJeDSsSzvbWtmj9lo3BWeEuShScWyr2INZ21bdnk1AOX87RrhrPpAHhVoKL3xxISSRJZ8E= Received: by 10.114.181.1 with SMTP id d1mr2422228waf.1172551523812; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:45:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.95.19 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:45:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:45:23 +1300 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "Garrett Cooper" In-Reply-To: <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:45:26 -0000 On 2/27/07, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Unforunately you (and many others on the list) have missed the point I > think. The OP said that he was stuck with outlook because of his pda > syncing, and there definitely isn't a means available (or at least a > good, popular one -- I know I'm inviting flames from KDE / Gnome > lovers..), in Unix for PDA syncing because everyone chooses Windows. Bleh.. > > Even OSX doesn't have a good mobile device syncing tool and it's > lightyears ahead of what Gnome and KDE have in some respects. I wasn't responding to the OP, but to everyone else as Outlook appears to be on-topic for FreeBSD-questions now :). Agree about the PDA/phone syncing. It's a surprisingly useful thing to have. -- Juha http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:45:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6664216A402; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2276113C4B2; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4706E7E8DD; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:45:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gs5B+zZ+5Y15; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8242A7E8BF; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:45:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org> <200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net> <228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org> <003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <73B261EE-79C5-4773-B563-9D9FCA16B4C8@netmusician.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:45:41 -0500 To: Kip Macy X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Gpgmail-State: signed X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:45:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately, my /boot/modules is already empty =( On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Kip Macy wrote: > It looks like it may be loading an out of sync kernel module. Cleaning > out /boot/modules might help. > > -Kip > > On 2/26/07, Joe Auty wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Well, >> >> My system does boot off of disc 1 of the FreeBSD 6.2 CD. However, >> even when copying the /boot directory from the CD to my machine, it >> still produces the same kernel panic, even when starting in safe >> mode. I've run a memtest, and it checked out fine. >> >> There must be something in my user space or world that it barfs on. I >> guess I will try a clean install and rebuild at some point... >> >> If you have any other ideas, I'm all ears! >> >> Here is my error message again (with verbose logging enabled, >> although that has no effect on this output): >> >> >> > WARNING: Device driver " >> > >> > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> > fault virtual address = 0x400000 >> > fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06d4614 >> > stack pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c >> > frame pointer = 0x28:0xf015491c >> > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffffff, type 0x1b >> > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> > processor eflags = interupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> > current process = 898 (kldload) >> > trap number = 12 >> > panic: page fault >> > uptime: 36s >> > cannot dump. No dump device defined >> > automatic reboot in 15 seconds >> >> >> Thanks again for your time! >> >> >> - ----------- >> Joe Auty >> NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians >> http://www.netmusician.org >> joe@netmusician.org >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) >> >> iD4DBQFF42FSCgdfeCwsL5ERArNQAJ9pEyu3ZT3BXe4YhEsgRsid6fB+SwCXeGjO >> fO0GeeBUPKKYq4N5rRHDTw== >> =PgI8 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF47d2CgdfeCwsL5ERAg/iAKCLVp7f+SB/f2xbT43lu4IeQWJxuACfa+L1 tpwQkQetPAVf53uCTA3hr6A= =ej7q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 05:26:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA7716A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B659413C478 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80766 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2007 05:26:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uWA6AwmVcf9CThpfIvZjIQAxuGxBuUC7myNeNPKSoRowGOkDcE1z5x1nE16mu04fF3PpzGqklhrVu0HFTyivVTOPRtUyhvtGSCl3/mGpGnX4Fu8M2Sg2eoV6tOZPG9T57poPnrnW25CEl1IycKzcvZ3ULdh15Ir8hssRQva2nJs=; X-YMail-OSG: R.948DoVM1nTxoYoa2oG1FhrSS5WQQxPjmRGC_GxcTBQIQzfoFWAt93mBWHSTIzrBJQajAsfwzAf_jJ2.7A2YcRAYUcLcjmjJ2iGfpZKNMhVTWC7E2wPSSVvt_uV.aZqzaDLpUXBIzMUV8o- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:41 CST Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:41 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <224548.80276.qm@web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:26:42 -0000 Hi folks, FreeBSD-6.2-amd64 This is a test, I insalled aprox >80% of the packages on Disc 2 After installation completed PC rebooted to runlevel 3. Login as user and run; $ startkde warning: Kpersonalizer : Cannot connect to Xserer - repeated- $ gnome-session (gnome-session 1968) gtk-Warning ** cannot open displayed $ startx 3 xterm windows started. On xterm I can start KDE with a lot of warning displayed on xterm windonw. But I can't start Gnome on xterm. I can start "firefox" on xterm. Now I'm posting on "firefox" browser. Please advise where I have to check fixing the problems. TIA B.R. Stephen Liu Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 05:32:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F6416A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7594F13C461 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7616968600DD9; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:38:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id X7HHImH2yMVx; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 5BF1668600DD8; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:38:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:38:33 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070227053833.GA26327@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:32:11 -0000 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Juha Saarinen wrote: >On 2/27/07, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>Unforunately you (and many others on the list) have missed the point I >>think. The OP said that he was stuck with outlook because of his pda >>syncing, and there definitely isn't a means available (or at least a >>good, popular one -- I know I'm inviting flames from KDE / Gnome >>lovers..), in Unix for PDA syncing because everyone chooses Windows. Bleh.. >> >>Even OSX doesn't have a good mobile device syncing tool and it's >>lightyears ahead of what Gnome and KDE have in some respects. I glad I didn't know that after dropping my last cell phone in the crapper. The display was toast, but it was alive enough that I could use iSync on my OS X box to grab all the phone info and load it into my new phone. If I had known that OS X didn't have this capability, I couldn't have done this. FWIW, this was about three years ago. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software, LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 "If taxation without consent is robbery, the United States government has never had, has not now, and is never likely to have, a single honest dollar in its treasury." -- Lysander Spooner, Letter to Grover Cleveland 1886 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 06:28:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDB016A401; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E405313C48D; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732DD7E8D3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:28:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tRGbZ1pg0oQM; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1CB7E8C3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:28:25 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070227043324.GX844@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <73B261EE-79C5-4773-B563-9D9FCA16B4C8@netmusician.org> <20070227043324.GX844@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <07E8C3BD-8764-488B-8CD7-D8A106D922C1@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:28:07 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS *SOLVED!* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:28:27 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sort of... Thanks for everybody that has helped me! It turns out I had a couple of rc.d scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d that were doing kldloads: rtc.sh and kqemu.sh - one of these was causing the panic. It might be worthwhile adding to the world rebuild doc a suggestion to grep kldload /usr/local/etc/rc.d and disable/ remove these services... Or, simply moving /usr/local/etc/rc.d might also be worthwhile test. I guess the trick here was not considering that user space apps would be trying to do a kldload, and that calling upon a module that is either missing in /boot/kernel or /boot/modules or resides outside of /boot can trigger these panics. Always the most simple of solutions that kicks you in the ass, isn't it? =) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF4894CgdfeCwsL5ERAlvfAKCiLEGZMTsGonn0OrdlTTMCp9GeZACePQ2V WCwXuHBFh/FOVsDJLa84Yks= =85PR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 06:41:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB28416A404 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2036413C48D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1R6ei8A041862; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:40:44 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E3D262.9080707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:40:34 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kelly Jones References: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5DA2654398C46497F4E38A55" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:41:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90/2657/Mon Feb 26 22:57:11 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: nmlug@nmlug.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com, linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Effectively detaching 'less' from a pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:41:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5DA2654398C46497F4E38A55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kelly Jones wrote: > Once I'm convinced, though, I'd like to "get rid" of less, and just > have the rest of stdout spewed to the terminal (and/or /dev/null > and/or to a file I specify). >=20 > In other words, I want to stop hitting 'space' until my program termina= tes. Hit F Makes less work rather like tail(1). Once your inferior process has finished you need to hit Ctrl-C and then q to quit from less(1). Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig5DA2654398C46497F4E38A55 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF49Js8Mjk52CukIwRCFfIAJ9ou4tdzIm1cc6qhEqydQT6Hgu9zwCcDqwh FKkfqG4PaPu/u+rlDxniT+c= =T5tP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5DA2654398C46497F4E38A55-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 07:41:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB95C16A401; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAB813C4B4; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1R7fVkx043071; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:41:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001e01c75a42$8de47710$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Joe Auty" References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org><200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net><228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org><003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <6F5A88A9-55D6-4D05-88DD-FF39D079A99B@netmusician.org> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:40:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:41:33 -0800 (PST) Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , Kip Macy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:41:34 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Auty" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" ; "Kip Macy" ; ; Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > > On Feb 26, 2007, at 8:01 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Auty" > > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" > > Cc: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" ; "Kip Macy" > > ; ; > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:39 PM > > Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > > > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> > >> On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Joe Auty" > >>> To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" > >>> Cc: "Kip Macy" ; >>> questions@freebsd.org>; > >>> > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:14 AM > >>> Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Any idea how this could have happened after disabling everything in > >>>> my /etc/loader.conf, and simply running a: > >>>> > >>>> make buildworld > >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconfig > >>>> make installkernel KERNCONF=myconfig > >>>> > >>> > >>> well your supposed to do this single-user, run mergemaster and a > >>> few other > >>> things. > >>> I also don't see a make installworld. > >>> > >> > >> I usually perform those steps after I've rebooted to ensure that my > >> system will boot off the new kernel, as per the instructions in the > >> FreeBSD handbook. > >> > >>> Joe, please try booting from a 6.2-release install ISO. If it > >>> works without > >>> panicing, > >>> then you did something wrong during the upgrade. > >>> > >> > >> Downloading the image now, I'll let you know if I'm able to boot from > >> it... > >> > >>> Since by your own admission your not an expert, you would be well > >>> advised > >>> to simply back up your files the old fashioned way, reformat your > >>> hard disk, > >>> install from a 6.2 boot ISO, then restore your files. Leave the > >>> fancy > >>> in-place > >>> updating to someone else. It's a big PIA and doesen't work half > >>> the time > >>> anyway. > >>> > >> > >> > >> How well does simply upgrading with the CD work (as opposed to wiping > >> clean)? I've upgraded several times to new releases simply by > >> rebuilding world, it has never failed me in the past. I don't doubt > >> what you are saying here, but since I will have to change how I work, > >> assuming that I can boot off of the 6.2 CD, I'd appreciate any > >> general upgrade tips that don't involve wiping the disk clean (which > >> is not really an option). > >> > > > > If wiping the disk really isn't an option then you have one or more > > of the > > following > > problems: > > > > 1) Production system with a lack of hardware spares > > > > 2) inadequate backup plan and execution. > > > > People who state that wiping the disk isn't an option are screaming > > at the top of their lungs for the hardware gremlins to explain what > > MTBF is > > all about. > > > > The gremlins will visit you, I guarentee. And they always pick the > > very > > best > > times for it too. I just hope (if this is your workplace) that > > your job > > survives. > > > > My production system is backed up daily to two different sites, > that's not an issue. The system I'm thinking of upgrading to 6.2 is > my test server I run out of my house that stores movie files and > other non-essential files. Technically, wiping it clean *would* be an > option if it came down to it, just an inconvenience. Perhaps I should > invest in another HD to use for instances such as this. > > > >> For instance, is rebuilding world between point releases (e.g. 5.4 to > >> 5.5) an okay idea, compared to across major releases (e.g. 5.5 to > >> 6.2)? > >> > >> > >> I'll do my own homework regarding this too, but I appreciate any > >> nuggets of wisdom you might have! As far as me being an expert, I > >> guess I'd categorize me somewhere in between complete newb and > >> FreeBSD developer =) > >> > > > > The problem is that all of the ports and packages that you put on a > > server > > change from release to release. The developers of openssl, for > > example, > > don't give a tinkers damn about how FreeBSD's upgrade process works, > > when they are making changes in their code. > > > > I run a number of FreeBSD servers and what I do is simply keep them > > patched > > with security updates. Every once in a while a security hole will be > > discovered in a non-core program and if it's serious enough I'll go > > into the > > port > > and do a "make deinstall" followed by downloading and compiling the > > program > > the "old fashioned way" I shoot for a min of 3 years on the OS > > before even > > thinking about updating, and when it's time to update the hardware has > > generally reached the old rag stage anyway. > > > > > Do you run any non-production machines where you test running newer > OSes and test software updates and such? > We used to but the problem was that the manufacturers change hardware designs much faster than we replace systems. So you end up with every server is running on different hardware. It may all be from the same manufacturer, even have the same brand name and line name on it, but the guts are different. I've basically cut back to a single clone system that I use to create custom-configured install ISOs from and that is synced to the source tree when I need for it to be. But for everything else, we try whatever possible to avoid doing updates on them other than security until they have reached their end of service life. When I'm building the replacement server for one we are retiring, that is when I do all my testing of updated applications. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 08:19:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F102B16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.ru (gateway.speechpro.com [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB81413C428 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from [192.168.2.26] by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HLxYB-000157-16 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:19:07 +0300 Message-ID: <45E3E962.7090600@speechpro.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:18:42 +0300 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free BSD Questions list References: <85498fe9045f9a3cc8170fbca19a9787@www1.mail.volny.cz> <45D03EB5.9020303@joeholden.co.uk> <5b1fdd42f5f52925382dbe8cb7fa501b@www2.mail.volny.cz> In-Reply-To: <5b1fdd42f5f52925382dbe8cb7fa501b@www2.mail.volny.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: Backup using dump and restore from dvd - restore cd loaded to ram?rive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:19:09 -0000 knizek@volny.cz wrote: > Yes, I know. However FreeSBIE mounts its bootable CD as root directory > (/) and then creates few RAM drives for /etc /usr etc. But I need the > CD-ROM drive to read the CDs with backup files... > Frenzy (http://www.frenzy.org.ua/en/) can free CD drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 08:23:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4332116A408 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35205.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35205.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB61A13C467 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56152 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2007 08:23:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=BzvGSm8T2IS1mBCtYZtRSzBebmBFaMOtAk4KjgVeS38pSgBEM0DkUcbtYxiGlsz5JpcMRxA0ei0mJ6xAPnVYLFJcUCbH5BRjKPD52Q2PSh/ZiIvRkAhOlJ3AqSCJm6nqYZLfCfxOkS0UnBokQW2IlukY4EI5QFPq4nnu9E9a6mE=; X-YMail-OSG: QKskF.QVM1liDvvyMVPlEvJMIzAemyhW3YRIrrXx3YNFx3GgDOt0sJE_3578mAwT_nJeUZzP5kY0eHqJkzW_JGsD3uVmKZ5sBZRi9FmxO6s8lQrIMGBoF77N2WCKFvu96ehsNFFQcw11g24- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35205.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:23:37 CST Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:23:37 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45E3DE8C.7080300@inode.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <355416.54750.qm@web35205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:23:38 -0000 Hi Armin, Tks for your advice. > There are two files that control which windowsmanager shall be used > (depending on whether you use a login manager or just startx) > One is called .xinitrc the other one .xsession - they are both in > your > home directory - create them (you can create one of them and symlink > the > other one) and add the start command to the file (full path) - and > make > sure they are set executable (chmod 755 ) > eg. for kde: > exec /usr/local/bin/startkde > eg for gnome: > exec /usr/local/bin/gnome-session Done as per your advice. $ cat ~/.xsession exec /usr/local/bin/startkde exec /usr/local/bin/gnome-session $ ls -al ~/.xsession -rwxr-xr-x 1 satimis wheel 62 Feb 27 07:59 /home/satimis/.xsession $ startkde .... ksplash: cannot connect to X server kdeinit: Aborting, $DISPLAY is not set Warning: Connect() failed: No such file or directory ksmserver: Cannot connect to Xserver ! startkde: shutting down ... Warning: Connect() failed: No such file or directory Error: Can't contact kdeinit ! startkde running shutdown script startkde : Done Still failed. B.R. satimis Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 08:27:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6741116A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from drone2.qsi.net.nz (drone2-svc-skyt.qsi.net.nz [202.89.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F4513C4D3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: (qmail 8145 invoked by uid 0); 27 Feb 2007 08:27:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chen.org.nz) ([202.89.146.5]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Feb 2007 08:27:03 -0000 Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 168FD7E862; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:27:03 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:27:03 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Stephen Liu Message-ID: <20070227082702.GA14401@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <224548.80276.qm@web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <224548.80276.qm@web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:27:06 -0000 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:26:41PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: > Hi folks, > > FreeBSD-6.2-amd64 > > This is a test, I insalled aprox >80% of the packages on Disc 2 > After installation completed PC rebooted to runlevel 3. Login as user > and run; > > $ startkde > warning: > Kpersonalizer : Cannot connect to Xserer > - repeated- > > $ gnome-session > (gnome-session 1968) gtk-Warning ** cannot open displayed > > $ startx > 3 xterm windows started. On xterm I can start KDE with a lot of > warning displayed on xterm windonw. But I can't start Gnome on xterm. > If you're going to use "startx" you will need a ${HOME}/.xinitrc with the following contents: #/bin/sh startkde Make sure the file is 755 permissions. This will start up X with KDE. I would suggest you configure /etc/ttys to start up KDM instead of using "startx" Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck" - Curly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 08:28:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9843816A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from drone3.qsi.net.nz (drone3-svc-skyt.qsi.net.nz [202.89.128.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E9D13C4AC for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: (qmail 1776 invoked by uid 0); 27 Feb 2007 08:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chen.org.nz) ([202.89.146.5]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Feb 2007 08:28:52 -0000 Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 38FC67E861; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:28:52 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:28:52 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Stephen Liu Message-ID: <20070227082852.GB14401@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <45E3DE8C.7080300@inode.at> <355416.54750.qm@web35205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <355416.54750.qm@web35205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:28:54 -0000 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:23:37PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: > Hi Armin, > > Tks for your advice. > > > There are two files that control which windowsmanager shall be used > > (depending on whether you use a login manager or just startx) > > One is called .xinitrc the other one .xsession - they are both in > > your > > home directory - create them (you can create one of them and symlink > > the > > other one) and add the start command to the file (full path) - and > > make > > sure they are set executable (chmod 755 ) > > eg. for kde: > > exec /usr/local/bin/startkde > > eg for gnome: > > exec /usr/local/bin/gnome-session > > Done as per your advice. > > $ cat ~/.xsession > exec /usr/local/bin/startkde > exec /usr/local/bin/gnome-session You didn't follow his instructions. You only need *ONE* of the lines in there - either "startkde" or "gnome-session". > $ ls -al ~/.xsession > -rwxr-xr-x 1 satimis wheel 62 Feb 27 07:59 /home/satimis/.xsession > > $ startkde You will need to use "startx" instead. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 09:11:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582AE16A406 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B7813C4AA for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1R9BAUh043609; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:11:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <008f01c75a4f$15aa3160$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Josh Tolbert" , References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com><45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com><45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com><47503.163.150.15.182.1172503018.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226153023.GA36082@just.puresimplicity.net> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:10:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:11:14 -0800 (PST) Cc: juhasaarinen@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:11:17 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Tolbert" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:30 AM Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:16:58AM -0800, chris@chrismaness.com wrote: > > >> > How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook? > > >> > Or do I have to go plain text? > > >> > > >> Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe > > >> Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box. > > > > > > *Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook > > > for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than > > > plain-text passwords can be made to work. > > > > > > My answer is "Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period." > > > but the OP may be stuck with it for some reason. > > > > > > > Thank You, if I was talking about Anna Nichole Smith or something, that > > would be *OFF* topic. ;o). > > > > I am stuck with outlook if I want to synch my PDA phone to my e-mail. It > > seems to work ok with gmail pop3. Maybe I can just have sendmail foreward > > a copy of all my mail to gmail. > > > > Thanks Guys, > > > > Chris Maness > > I run imap-uw. Outlook 2003 works just fine with my mail server. However, I > haven't been able to get Outlook 2002 to work properly. If your using self-signed certificates the secret is you create a self-signed CA certificate, then import a copy of that into Internet Explorer, and then when you create the CSR for the imap server, sign it with your self-signed root CA certificate. This same restriction existed for all prior Outlook clients. In outlook 2003 MS finally got rid of that and allowed you to use self-signed imap certificates directly. Ted Outlook Express also > works fine for me. > > My (quite popular) page about running both sendmail and imap-uw with SSL/TLS > and authentication can be found here: > . The page states > that one of the goals of the described mail setup is compatibility with > Microsoft e-mail clients. > > Thanks, > > Josh > -- > Josh Tolbert > hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ > > Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor > do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger > is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either > a daring adventure, or nothing. > -- Helen Keller > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 09:15:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7DD16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A325C13C481 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1R9FMd7043638; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:15:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <00a701c75a4f$aa8cf830$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry McAllister" , References: <20070226184043.GA59508@gizmo.acns.msu.edu><8cb6106e0702261053k5cf8c64eod62cb2cd498bb87a@mail.gmail.com> <20070226212335.GA60165@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:14:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:15:24 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:15:26 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry McAllister" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Patches in FreeBSD > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:53:20AM -0800, Josh Carroll wrote: > > > >My question is: How do I respond to this? > > >I have seen the word patch used in security update messages - but > > >didn't follow that path. Is that real? Does it cover kernel > > >things essentially on the fly or is a 'time consuming' rebuild > > >still needed? > > > > 6.2 now official supports binary patches via freebsd-update(8). From > > the 6.2-RELEASE announcement > > (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html): > > > > "freebsd-update(8) provides officially supported binary updates for > > security fixes and errata patches" > > > > So there's your response. :) > > Thank you. > I didn't realize my question is to cutting edge - so to speak. > I saw a few posts mentioning update, but didn't take the time to > follow them and didn't realize their possible relevance. > So, good news! > No, it isn't. They will just find some other excuse to try to switch you over to Linux. The patch excuse was one of the lamest. Even in the "pre binary" patch days it didn't require the entire system to be rebuilt just to patch a daemon. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 10:02:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE1816A403 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20B813C4B3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from localhost.168.11.51 ([::1] helo=lists.lc-words.com) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HLzBn-000L74-QN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:04:07 +0100 Received: from 192.168.11.11 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) by lists.lc-words.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:04:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <2598.192.168.11.11.1172570647.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:04:07 +0100 (CET) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: self-signed certificates in outlook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:02:57 -0000 hello, Following a recent discussion I have a question whether there is a way for outlook not to complain when it comes to using self-signed certificates? Thank you in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 10:17:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8FB16A403 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E316C13C441 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26576 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2007 10:17:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=q58U1lMUtM39IupZSNExAp+PmZUW/ihIBi0+M/4FxqhcYLw3avyuPF+AHkGhMh1RqFDf/imbsS/LYk8xFpvAi1sJrQTP1l4JElag7IcvoczVGwQPmY6/1MBkNzCsmrTmphHkkzBgunUlGRT+3HGqGi7Ju87ccT2JDfejMfBnTBE=; X-YMail-OSG: uatGfPoVM1nxbYYK9wPC2cPoTbANPfVC8YLgj0uLHRmDts2tElVHbSLokrP0W7TjIAZAw5CTSdi4de_ol_WGEiSvrae23.q9xYcuBUsPot9g0TfwtsqmXj9YJJm1qWoB.CZMP_JvlkM8x.c- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:17:23 CST Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:17:23 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070227082702.GA14401@osiris.chen.org.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <218603.24972.qm@web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:17:24 -0000 Hi Jonathan Chen, Tks for your advice. > If you're going to use "startx" you will need a ${HOME}/.xinitrc with > the following contents: > > #/bin/sh > startkde > > Make sure the file is 755 permissions. This will start up X with KDE. > I would suggest you configure /etc/ttys to start up KDM instead of > using "startx" Your advice worked here starting KDE. What I'm trying to do is running; $ startkde will start K desktop $ gnome-session will start Gnome desktop Tks. B.R. Stephen Liu Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 10:24:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1E616A406 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A6E213C4A5 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28188 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2007 10:24:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=cA9zGKMz5gx6e77M6+MKgY2WLCB7UoLCSuBBLyRN803IzEisEk+KZJqBu3Fm7Wv6TEAbZjcjA7wFgFKsgYS1uJye5tk8Z3/ojTIv09q6+ew+/76yEcyG3KMASHZNILiPTLKnIToESQw2CBSewezFrdGqmpfg5tjtaUPNTM8Dp+E=; X-YMail-OSG: JG7SZJ4VM1n2jcNaNrrRS_GARClBYGD5GYILYVk1Jtz.K5pRZzkbbsFx5f.MkTkOXg-- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:24:40 CST Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:24:40 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070227082702.GA14401@osiris.chen.org.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <795938.23687.qm@web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:24:41 -0000 Hi Jonathan, > I would suggest you configure /etc/ttys to start up KDM instead of > using "startx" I'm prepared running this box building servers for test. I don't expect the box booting straight to login page. X is only for communicating outside World. I'm not used to running elinks, the text broswer. Tks. B.R. satimis Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 10:26:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D011116A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535BC13C4B6 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l1RAQeKh097116; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:26:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l1RAQeIk097115; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:26:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:26:40 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20070227102640.GD95933@abigail.blackend.org> References: <45DCA563.1070106@locolomo.org> <20070222110918.GA982@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sHrvAb52M6C8blB9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070222110918.GA982@gothic.blackend.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: insufficient resources for HD video X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:26:42 -0000 --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 12:09:18PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > Starting playback... > > VDec: vo config request - 1440 x 1080 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV1= 2) > > VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) > > Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. > > VO: [sdl] 1440x1080 =3D> 1920x1080 Planar YV12 > [...] >=20 > hmmm should be VO: [xv] ... >=20 > try mplayer -vo xv ... >=20 > I tried with whitedogpassingby.m2t, no problem with both mplayer and > vlc. > Here, xvinfo | grep XvImage > gives me > maximum XvImage size: 2046 x 2046 >=20 > Your problem sounds like a X11 config issue (card using shared memory?), > try to add >=20 > Option "LinearAlloc" "8192" >=20 > (or more instead of 8192) in your xorg.conf device section and restart > X. Well it concerns i915 and i810 chipsets, for other chipsets you > have to play with Videoram parameter (I'm not sure of the result in that > case...). > Increading kern.ipc.shmmax may also help. >=20 >=20 Any news? --=20 Marc --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF5AdfzQ9RwE+OdOgRArX2AJ4iRswa905m9x4Ql8YLurGG1TqhEgCgqifI C1INpjsmHAug8djo5jRr2Ks= =oCFd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 10:43:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA2216A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.cojocar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6742513C471 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.cojocar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so123166nfc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:43:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AhOMAfP1laFJhYWq4/ATYOxCoqBocQV+mVs+7VYdzVCT8VdNQl7OCLWHIWoWRoyKFlTjNe9enn8PhCPleUuMqfQTMNYFquBrAaYG+nj7WswReb3PwgKOfOEHyOlGahDkssZhtKnQVb7sPQqIPgryKRdz6bMwkYmKpJR6T/q7hec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=V7sXJkt/vojmO09FTFZUBr7iyozTEPvkmqiq0jhaWRIYNG6KobYK09KGHAmrJjuCN4+UeoNgjgRyJWCP9zKaVbG+cJ/4G4oAjx3vg89gvlq5Ibp5CVWmWUzNOoga8UkTK6cbv8DQCutc77psC8T7+yF7kaqK6jI4NNJGKoH3dqc= Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr773813nfi.1172571404977; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.211.7 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:16:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:16:44 +0200 From: "Dan Cojocar" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: freebsd 6.2 oracle php php-oci8 core dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:43:29 -0000 Hello all, I have oracle-xe, lang/php5, databases/linux-oracle-instantclient-basic, databases/linux-oracle-instantclient-sdk, databases/oracle8-client and databases/php5-oci8 following this howto: http://mrtenente.infosys.lt/blog/?p=22 all are installed without errors. But when I connect to oracle from php i get a core dump that i cannot access. I mention that I have compiled php with debug enabled. Can somebody suggest another setup? Or how to investigate this? Thank you, Dan gdb php php.core 12:07:12 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... Core was generated by `php'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613-debug/oci8.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613-debug/oci8.so Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #0 0x48b2116c in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613-debug/oci8.so [New LWP 100042] (gdb) bt #0 0x48b2116c in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613-debug/oci8.so Cannot access memory at address 0x196 (gdb) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 11:22:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23ED16A404 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E2613C46B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HM0P7-0004UG-55; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:21:57 +0000 Received: from [62.31.10.181] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HM0P6-0000yr-9C; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:21:56 +0000 Message-ID: <45E41451.50803@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:21:53 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> <45E3D262.9080707@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45E3D262.9080707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com, nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com Subject: Re: Effectively detaching 'less' from a pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:22:01 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: >Kelly Jones wrote: > > > >>Once I'm convinced, though, I'd like to "get rid" of less, and just >>have the rest of stdout spewed to the terminal (and/or /dev/null >>and/or to a file I specify). >> >>In other words, I want to stop hitting 'space' until my program terminates. >> >> > >Hit F > >Makes less work rather like tail(1). Once your inferior process has >finished you need to hit Ctrl-C and then q to quit from less(1). > > You learns something new every day... In a similar vein, I use G which jumps to the end-of-file. If there is a lot of output less does nothing until it hits EOF and then just shows you the end of the output. I suspect that of being quicker since it won't spend any time scrolling output to the screen. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 12:20:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997AD16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354E313C428 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id XAA08969; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:19:51 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:19:51 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Kelly Jones In-Reply-To: <20070227074143.8840716A411@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Effectively detaching 'less' from a pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:20:02 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 167, Issue 5 At Message: 19 On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:27:41 -0700, Kelly Jones wrote: > I often run commands piped to 'less', to make sure the command is > working OK by looking at the first few lines of output. > > Once I'm convinced, though, I'd like to "get rid" of less, and just > have the rest of stdout spewed to the terminal (and/or /dev/null > and/or to a file I specify). > > In other words, I want to stop hitting 'space' until my program terminates. What Matthew said about using 'F' to follow output tail is very handy. > How can I do this? > > My current kludges (both ugly): > > 1. do "command > file" and then "tail -f file | less" (this mostly > works, but takes a while to get started because of buffering issues) > > 2. do "command | less", and once I'm happy w/ the output, hit 'q' to > quit less (and thus terminate program) and then do "command > > /dev/null" (works, but wastes time, since I have to run the command > once just to look at the first few lines and then abort it) When you've piped something to less that you want to save, or save some part of, press 'g' to go to top of file (or position the top of what you want to save at top of screen), press 'm' and some letter (I mostly use 'mm' for speed) to mark that spot, press 'G' to go to bottom of file (or otherwise position the end of what you want at bottom of screen), then press '|' then (as prompted for) the letter of your mark (eg here '|m') Then at the '!' command prompt offered, type 'cat - >somepath/filename' to capture the file, or snippet. If you use >> instead of > you can cat interesting sections of your output to a file; using up/down arrow at '!' you can recall commands used, for each mark/move/pipe/cat sequence. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 12:42:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AE416A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD0613C46B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from adsl-69-210-74-164.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net ([69.210.74.164] helo=cheyenne.sixcompanies.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HM1f3-000Ddl-US for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:42:30 -0500 Received: from dakota.sixcompanies.com (cheyenne.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.170]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1RCgSSO004424 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:42:29 -0600 (CST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 69.210.74.164 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: lonebandit Message-Id: <200702271242.l1RCgSSO004424@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:43:24 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: .lesshst X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:42:30 -0000 I have noticed since I installed 6.2, that anyone that uses csh has these files created in their ~home dir. Even root. Anyone have a .profile/.cshrc/.login that can shut this off? -- J.D. Bronson Telecommunications Site Support Aurora West Allis Memorial Hospital Office: 414.978.8282 Fax: 414.977.5299 Microsoft Gives you Windows || Unix Gives you a home From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 12:51:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307F116A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7C013C481 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1572019wxc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:51:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=i0gFHzUi9yV6Es1mr9KWJn8gCG81YtYR7cu4uOVhWd26EOOOkPYI8+o8xjbJiP8ic14f0KpoCVeYw+X87mYGjnugG2tx5YkbXEUNQeK9Xl/Blsu9wK4ajUeMiVKm6+rcde3GMZUGMUezF/0xnNUFdjWtN3VQGta9NL7/+Tc8uSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nfb8bU7Y33FutNWVHS6oDe3mAiUrwHQwKzvkkW5ixaU2x/uZLzEbm+Z0IpIWxYbegZcURVS3ND3IQ8llHWmLSexSqFk79LmDVhQmRaeDs9M+kDOsQQCjUeuA+st90foJiAPUcCOyOa1jtNEeEIpEYSACAkYfEsvVuEEcUvucBdY= Received: by 10.70.19.2 with SMTP id 2mr11588164wxs.1172580680083; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.39.18 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:51:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <14989d6e0702270451h3438ab2eoe0a8957778a6355c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:51:19 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <200702271242.l1RCgSSO004424@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200702271242.l1RCgSSO004424@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .lesshst X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:51:21 -0000 On 27/02/07, J.D. Bronson wrote: > I have noticed since I installed 6.2, that anyone that uses csh has > these files created in their ~home dir. > > Even root. > > Anyone have a .profile/.cshrc/.login that can shut this off? Excerpt from man less: LESSHISTFILE Name of the history file used to remember search commands and shell commands between invocations of less. If set to "-", a history file is not used. The default is "$HOME/.lesshst" on Unix systems, "$HOME/_lesshst" on DOS and Windows systems, or "$HOME/lesshst.ini" or "$INIT/lesshst.ini" on OS/2 systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 07:32:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433C316A4DF; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0B313C48D; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l1R7Wip2043003; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:32:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001b01c75a41$559c28e0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Meyer" References: <6B2A41DC-79FA-42A1-B1BC-BB9F0A74B765@netmusician.org><200702251146.08150.Danovitsch@vitsch.net><228AFDCF-D9C1-43F1-ACBE-719595B10FEE@netmusician.org><003b01c75940$fbc095f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645><39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org><001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <17891.3228.173538.908477@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:31:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:32:49 -0800 (PST) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:09:56 +0000 Cc: "Daan Vreeken \[PA4DAN\]" , Kip Macy , Joe Auty , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:32:52 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Meyer" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Joe Auty" ; "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" ; "Kip Macy" ; ; Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:36 AM Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS > > and do a "make deinstall" followed by downloading and compiling the program > > the "old fashioned way" I shoot for a min of 3 years on the OS before even > > thinking about updating, and when it's time to update the hardware has > > generally reached the old rag stage anyway. > > This works great for servers, that don't have any real users on them, > and is pretty much how I do things. I'll try updating the ports tree > and installing from that rather than building the old fashioned way, > because that works a surprising percentage of the time. > > On desktop and development systems, the users tend to get pissed if I > let things get that old. So I do upgrade them more often. That depends on who's paying for it. If your in-house support your screwed of course, since all of them think your labor hours are inexhaustable. But if the users are in a small business or whatever that has to actually pay real money to have their systems updated, then they are usually a lot less enthusiastic about new updates (at least, their owners are) > There are a > couple of things you can do to make reinstalling to a clean disk a bit > less painfull. > > 1) Intelligent file system layout. I put all the things that aren't > installed from the FreeBSD disks on their own partitions (/home and > /local). I can then wipe and reinstall /, /var and /usr without > clobbering the non-system data. > > 2) Mirrored disks. Disks for consumer systems are cheap. Throwing a > second one in a system and mirroring the system disk is a cheap way to > improve the reliability of the system. When it's time to upgrade, take > a drive out of the mirror, and install to that drive. You can reboot > to the old system if you need to interrupt the process and run the old > system for some reason. With a file system layout as per #1, you can > even mount the users files under both versions of the OS. When you're > happy with the new system, mirror the new system drive to the old one. > I do the mirroring thing too but the one thing you have to watch is inadequate cooling in some of these minitowers. Stacking the disks on top of each other with no cooling fan blowing air on them is not a good idea. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 11:30:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7E216A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uluvardar@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s37.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s37.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3179513C471 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uluvardar@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.169.86]) by bay0-omc2-s37.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:18:46 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:18:47 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 81.215.226.190 by BAY114-DAV14.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:18:42 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [81.215.226.190] X-Originating-Email: [uluvardar@hotmail.com] X-Sender: uluvardar@hotmail.com From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?O=F0uz_ULUVARDAR?= To: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:21:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2007 11:18:47.0197 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C88D4D0:01C75A61] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:10:22 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: video/x-ms-asf-plugin for firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:30:46 -0000 > Hi did you had an answer on this plug in? > I am getting crazy and can find no answer... I don't know about a plugin, but mplayer (and probably other video applications, but that's the first one I checked) claims to be able to play it, so you should be able to set it as an external helper application for firefox. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 13:22:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FB116A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com [68.99.120.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E1613C47E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao03 ([172.18.22.60]) by dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with SMTP id <20070227130419.JOSU2045.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03> for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:04:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.16 (webedge20-101-1106-20040809) From: Vizion Organization: vizion Communications To: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 5:04:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070227130419.JOSU2045.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03> Subject: kerberos how to reinstall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:22:07 -0000 I found that kerberos5 had been deleted from my system and NO_KERBEROS=TRUE was in my make.conf file. Kerberos was originally installed on this sytem. pkg_info |grep crypt shows: libdvdcss-1.2.9._2 libgcrypt-1.2.3_1 are installed can I safely reinstall kerberos by using make in /usr/src/kerberos5? Is there anything I need to check in preparation? Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 13:26:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F7D16A406 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C21213C4B4 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] ([192.168.10.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1RDRmDT034005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:27:49 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E43190.8010602@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:40 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?O=F0uz_ULUVARDAR?= References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video/x-ms-asf-plugin for firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:26:42 -0000 Oðuz ULUVARDAR wrote: >> Hi did you had an answer on this plug in? >> I am getting crazy and can find no answer... > > I don't know about a plugin, but mplayer (and probably other video > applications, but that's the first one I checked) claims to be able to > play it, so you should be able to set it as an external helper > application for firefox. Missed the original thread, but if mplayer plays it then /usr/ports/www/mplayer-plugin should play it in firefox as a plugin. Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 13:31:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D7C16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4E313C467 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 21758 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2007 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Feb 2007 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from Lowell-Desk.localdomain (Lowell-Desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ABE2842F; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by Lowell-Desk.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D65E61CD29; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:31:10 -0500 (EST) To: Joe Auty References: <39E24107-964D-414C-95D1-5B1C376291E4@netmusician.org> <001001c759a6$438d5ed0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <73B261EE-79C5-4773-B563-9D9FCA16B4C8@netmusician.org> <20070227043324.GX844@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <07E8C3BD-8764-488B-8CD7-D8A106D922C1@netmusician.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:31:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <07E8C3BD-8764-488B-8CD7-D8A106D922C1@netmusician.org> (Joe Auty's message of "Tue\, 27 Feb 2007 01\:28\:07 -0500") Message-ID: <44y7mjg21t.fsf@Lowell-Desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot on any 6.x OS *SOLVED!* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:31:17 -0000 Joe Auty writes: > I guess the trick here was not considering that user space apps would > be trying to do a kldload, and that calling upon a module that is > either missing in /boot/kernel or /boot/modules or resides outside > of /boot can trigger these panics. That is because they are *not* user-space applications. They are kernel-space code. There is a "PORTS_MODULES" variable documented for make.conf(5) which is intended for just this problem. I haven't used it, though, and offhand I can't find the macro definition for it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 13:44:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D849616A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com (omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.92.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3EC13C441 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from oaamta03sl.mx.bigpond.com ([121.209.32.118]) by omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070227134454.SOZJ14447.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta03sl.mx.bigpond.com>; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:44:54 +0000 Received: from mail.0x7e.net ([121.209.32.118]) by oaamta03sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070227134453.JMZS3580.oaamta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@mail.0x7e.net>; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:44:53 +0000 Received: from qux.0x7e.net ([10.10.10.10]) by mail.0x7e.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1HM2dR-000AOP-5c; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:14:53 +1030 In-Reply-To: <226ae0c60702261046m671647bbwc9aef6b1f6475522@mail.gmail.com> References: <226ae0c60702261046m671647bbwc9aef6b1f6475522@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <934FF44E-39F5-410B-B235-5F5709B4340A@deathbeforedecaf.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rob Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:14:53 +1030 To: David Robillard , Chuck Swiger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Using source control to manage system configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:44:59 -0000 On 27/02/2007, at 5:16 AM, David Robillard wrote: > If you simply want to track changes and be able to roll back your > configuration files, then go with a more simple approach like using > RCS locally. RCS is part of the base FreeBSD system. David & Chuck, I'm already using RCS, and I've built a somewhat clunky mechanism around it. One machine holds the master copies of - site-wide files (/etc/ntp.conf, /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/syslog.conf) - host-specific files (/etc/hosts, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf) for each server At install time, both sets of files are tarred up and copied to the new server. If there's a conflict, the host-specific files win. Problem: It's a good system for installs, but then I update the files on the working server. I always mean to merge the changes back to the master copy, but it never quite happens. Solution: CVS with a remote repository looks good - updates on the server, and a central record of all changes. Reinstalling a server should be as easy as 'cvs co $HOST'. Problem: I don't want 6 identical copies of /etc/ntp.conf under version control, so the site-wide files and host-specific files should be in separate modules. But they have the same working directory, and this is where I run into problems with CVS - it's impossible to check them both out to the same server. Is there some way to do this with Subversion? Or can a file be shared by different modules? Or am I going about this all wrong? > Now if you want to keep your changes on another machine, then it's > just a simple question of running a backup of your machines. (you do > backup right? ;) Absolutely - I dump /home from each server to an old iPod (it's a small network). But backups are for preserving entire filesystems. I want my system configs to be version controlled, as well as saved. > Have fun, Of course - that's why I do this :-) Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 13:52:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881B316A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AB213C481 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RDqXYj009011; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:52:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RDqRIu008996; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:52:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:52:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Noah Garrett Wallach In-Reply-To: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> Message-ID: <20070227145130.F8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:52:42 -0000 > > named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant figure > out why. > there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot process. > > even when I manually start there are no error messages. > > # grep named /etc/rc.conf > named_enable="YES" > # pkg_info | grep bind > bind9-9.3.4 Completely new version of the BIND DNS suite with updated why you are installing bind from ports - there is bind9 in base system. and it's controlled with named_enable. have you configured right version in right (/etc/namedb) directory? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 13:56:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9062D16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68FD13C471 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RDuKwf009817; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:56:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RDuJ8o009813; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:56:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:56:19 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <45E3ADE7.6080803@u.washington.edu> Message-ID: <20070227145308.R8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> <20070226214106.W38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E3ADE7.6080803@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:24 -0000 >> providing data recovery services etc... >> >> people are allowed to be stupid. it's natural. no need to worry > > Sometimes managing calendars and corporate schedules can be a pain in the > ass. I don't see how groups like Intel could do it any other way.. fortunately it's not my pain :) and i'm not interested in groups like Intel which naturally support windows and microsoft every place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 13:56:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F3A16A409 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster6.tls.net (ecluster6.tls.net [65.196.224.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3241F13C4BB for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 2562 invoked by uid 89); 27 Feb 2007 13:55:19 -0000 Received: from 64-184-10-26.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.105?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.26) by auth-ecluster6.tls.net with SMTP; 27 Feb 2007 13:55:19 -0000 Message-ID: <45E43891.3020709@pixelhammer.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:56:33 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0AFEEDC5-5838-4721-9309-E743EFF5C0B0@techally.com> <45DC9589.6030606@pixelhammer.com> <45DDC8D0.1090705@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Day Light Savings time changes on March 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:46 -0000 Christian Baer wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:46:08 -0500 DAve wrote: > >>> Or am I missing the issue here? >> Not at all, I am thinking my next staff meeting I am going to propose >> just that solution. > > Now it might be that I think about a few things a little 'differently' > but as far as I can remember running a Unix box (which one that *only* > runs a Unix-like OS) on UTC is the usual default and i also recomended > as such. > > I am actually a little surprised that there are whole server-farms out > there (stimm) running on local time. > An ISP starts out with one mail server and a management server, they create tools that automate and report on the system. It is all in local time. Go forward ten years and now we have 15+ servers, all still using the same admin framework. When I came on board they did not have the time or resources to rewrite or change the management system. We still don't, but we are building out a new one under the radar, 30 minutes here, two hours there, etc. Meanwhile we have an old system which relies on local time. We have local users who do not require a "world view" in their use of the internet (local office to local office connections, local client base, local local local) and they want their mail headers and web reports in local time. So the servers run local time. No more reason than that. We will convert them, but it takes and plan, and a reason. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:02:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF116A406 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E40B13C48D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RE2b46010917; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:02:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RE2XGv010905; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:02:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:02:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Juha Saarinen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070227145738.G8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: chris@chrismaness.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:02:50 -0000 > Outlook has some good features: most important of them: 1) inability to work right with imap, for eg. when deleting mail. 2) inability to properly handle THEIR OWN FORMAT mail (these huge files in which it keeps mail) when there is a lot of mail on disk. after shorter or longer time it will start to fail, and finally fail completely, making mail recovery near impossible. IMAP keeps mail on mailserver, but see point 1 3) inability to handle big amount of mail (like half milion e-mails getting ca 10-20GB space) at all without waiting whole night. thats very good features if you a) selling computers. it will help you sell new super-ultra-fast machine every year or less. b) provide data recovery services to recover effects of point 2 c) like to offer better solutions than outlook. points B and C makes me happy often :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:03:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FDC16A40E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF6B13C4C2 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RE3epQ011027; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:03:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RE3eOM011024; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:03:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:03:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Bill Campbell In-Reply-To: <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Message-ID: <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:03:58 -0000 >>> how usable Outlook is with IMAP. >>> >>> The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they >>> develop that mailserver. > > As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap > (where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-). use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at least for me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:06:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2123A16A408 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster6.tls.net (ecluster6.tls.net [65.196.224.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5558E13C49D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 2674 invoked by uid 89); 27 Feb 2007 14:04:53 -0000 Received: from 64-184-10-26.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.105?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.26) by auth-ecluster6.tls.net with SMTP; 27 Feb 2007 14:04:53 -0000 Message-ID: <45E43ACF.80004@pixelhammer.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:06:07 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0AFEEDC5-5838-4721-9309-E743EFF5C0B0@techally.com> <45DC9589.6030606@pixelhammer.com> <20070222171839.GB30093@ayn.mi.celestial.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Day Light Savings time changes on March 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:06:15 -0000 Christian Baer wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:18:39 -0800 Bill Campbell wrote: > >>> Or am I missing the issue here? >> I think the issue is how localtime displays dates. >> >> This whole ``problem'' is a typical example of brainless >> politicians (but I repeat myself) doing things that cause far >> more problems then they ostensibly solve. > > This is geting a little OT here, but could someone explain this to me > please? > For as long as I have been voting Indiana has proposed switching to daylight savings time because it would "save money" and create new jobs. Every year it got defeated, every year Hoosiers spent countless dollars debating the issue, every year Hoosiers told the legislature no. They finally changed it last year, after an extensive campaign which claimed Indiana lost billions of dollars and thousands of jobs a year because we did not have DST. Of course after much prodding, no one could manage to justify those numbers or explain where they came from. It must have worked, because we have considerable increase in traffic caused by the money trucks rolling through town and the bus loads of new workers arriving to fill the waiting jobs ;^) Personally, I think someone just wanted on extra hour on the tee during the week after work. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:20:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E525016A404 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4155E13C48E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RE3epQ011027; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:03:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RE3eOM011024; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:03:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:03:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Bill Campbell In-Reply-To: <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Message-ID: <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:20:06 -0000 >>> how usable Outlook is with IMAP. >>> >>> The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they >>> develop that mailserver. > > As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap > (where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-). use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at least for me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:21:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE91316A403 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from mx.inode.at (mx16.lb01.inode.at [62.99.145.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D87013C48D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from [85.124.26.15] (port=13458 helo=[192.168.1.11]) by smartmx-16.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HM3Cz-0007tF-9m; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:21:37 +0100 Message-ID: <45E43E70.9090304@inode.at> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:21:36 +0100 From: Armin Pirkovitsch User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Liu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <218603.24972.qm@web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <218603.24972.qm@web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:21:38 -0000 Stephen Liu wrote: > Hi Jonathan Chen, > > Tks for your advice. > > >> If you're going to use "startx" you will need a ${HOME}/.xinitrc with >> the following contents: >> >> #/bin/sh >> startkde >> >> Make sure the file is 755 permissions. This will start up X with KDE. >> I would suggest you configure /etc/ttys to start up KDM instead of >> using "startx" > > Your advice worked here starting KDE. > > What I'm trying to do is running; > > $ startkde > will start K desktop > > $ gnome-session > will start Gnome desktop This won't work since those are just the windowmanagers - you need an X server to start them. However you could solve it with some small scripts: start-gnome.sh: ---------------- #!/bin/sh rm -f ~/.xinitrc ln -s ~/.xinitrc_gnome ~/.xinitrc startx ---------------- ################ .xinitrc_gnome: ---------------- #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/gnome-session ---------------- ################ start-kde.sh: ---------------- #!/bin/sh rm -f ~/.xinitrc ln -s ~/.xinitrc_kde ~/.xinitrc startx ---------------- ################ .xinitrc_gnome: ---------------- #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/startkde ---------------- make sure all of these files are executable (chmod 755 ) the .xinitrc* files have to be in your home directory - start-gnome.sh and start-kde.sh in any directory in your PATH (eg. ~/bin if it's only for one user) -- Armin Pirkovitsch a.pirko@inode.at From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:25:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA5816A406 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.ru (gateway.speechpro.com [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E89713C467 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from [192.168.2.26] by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HM3H2-000NK5-Pr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:25:48 +0300 Message-ID: <45E43F55.6060407@speechpro.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:25:25 +0300 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:25:50 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at > least for me Does dovecont support shared forders? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:26:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B8216A40B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E41013C474 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1144901ana for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.163.12 with SMTP id l12mr4996406ane.1172586416234; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.4? ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 26sm448283wra.2007.02.27.06.26.55; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:26:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:27:03 -0500 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <45E43ACF.80004@pixelhammer.com> References: <45E43ACF.80004@pixelhammer.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20070227092206.93F9.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.30.03 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: Day Light Savings time changes on March 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:26:56 -0000 On Tuesday February 27, 2007 at 09:06:07 (AM) DAve wrote: > Personally, I think someone just wanted on extra hour on the tee during > the week after work. Actually, I had not thought about that. So maybe this daylight savings thing is not such a bad idea after all. :*) -- Gerard Ruth rode upon my motor bike directly in back of me. I hit a bump at 95 and rode on Ruthlessly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:30:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7FB16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E4913C4A6 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C1F20583F for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:30:31 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DC5sppwYU-pY for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:30:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F39205856 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:30:21 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:30:15 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> X-Face: &'; cS03F?rr_w2Qce.d2f7xmwXfcJWDs>}CkpDw.c]ZJJ_)i0Nx Subject: Re: how to run root cmds when starting xorg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:30:32 -0000 --nextPart1355448.s5Mb2O1ekE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 24 February 2007 17:24, deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > how do i exec a kldload script when starting ttyv8 kdm (or xorg) ? Another idea not yet mentioned is to create two wrapper scripts like so: $ cat /usr/local/bin/loadsound #!/bin/sh kldload whatever.ko $ cat /usr/local/bin/unloadsound #!/bin/sh kldunload whatever.ko and the install sudo and configure it to give your user the ability to run= =20 those two commands without entering your password. Finally, add "sudo=20 loadsound" and "sudo unloadsound" to your startup and exit scripts. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1355448.s5Mb2O1ekE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF5EB75sRg+Y0CpvERAuRIAJ0d7I9Ysafl51jgkL172UIxquDpxgCeIgpA 1apJZ7TMTXDmkeaiOkOzbtg= =QL5J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1355448.s5Mb2O1ekE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:34:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B8716A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC9413C4A3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1147325ana for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.43.9 with SMTP id q9mr5006183anq.1172586888433; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.4? ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 13sm1767038wrl.2007.02.27.06.34.46; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:34:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:34:54 -0500 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <20070227145308.R8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E3ADE7.6080803@u.washington.edu> <20070227145308.R8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20070227092736.93FC.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.30.03 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:34:49 -0000 On Tuesday February 27, 2007 at 08:56:19 (AM) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > fortunately it's not my pain :) and i'm not interested in groups like > Intel which naturally support windows and microsoft every place. I think it could be more accurately stated that Intel, among others, follow the money. I am sure if Intel could be shown a comparable business design that would generate a similar bottom line, they would seriously consider it. Nobody is going to throw resources at a losing or revenue neutral venture. -- Gerard "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. I am a vegetarian because I hate plants." A. Whitney Brown From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:37:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCD716A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from illusion.skoberne.net (illusion.skoberne.net [84.255.205.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C972013C47E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by illusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C18B849 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:13:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from illusion.skoberne.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (illusion.skoberne.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37728-08 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:13:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.12.5] (unknown [192.168.12.5]) by illusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DCDB819 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:13:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E43C74.5050609@skoberne.net> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:13:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Nejc_=A9koberne?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090603010504070108010300" Subject: Colored output of "make search" in /usr/ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:37:27 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090603010504070108010300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I just realized that having a colored output of "make search" command issued in /usr/ports would be very helpful. So that different fields would be colored differently and thus easier to read. What do you think? 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bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1REhbJt028328; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:43:38 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070227084100.02563750@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:43:23 -0600 To: Noah Garrett Wallach , User Questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:44:11 -0000 In the newer versions of bind you need to add to /etc/rc.conf: named_uid="username" you want to run named as. -Derek At 07:24 PM 2/26/2007, Noah Garrett Wallach wrote: >Hi there, > >named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant figure >out why. >there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot process. > >even when I manually start there are no error messages. > ># grep named /etc/rc.conf >named_enable="YES" ># pkg_info | grep bind >bind9-9.3.4 Completely new version of the BIND DNS suite with >updated D > > > ># grep BIND messages >Feb 26 11:50:53 access2 named[1704]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >Feb 26 14:07:19 access2 named[990]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >Feb 26 17:19:59 access2 named[966]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >/etc/namedb/named.conf >Feb 26 17:20:07 access2 named[974]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >/etc/namedb/named.conf >Feb 26 17:20:19 access2 named[981]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >/etc/namedb/named.conf ># /etc/rc.d/named stop ># /etc/rc.d/named start ># grep BIND messages >Feb 26 11:50:53 access2 named[1704]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >Feb 26 14:07:19 access2 named[990]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >Feb 26 17:19:59 access2 named[966]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >/etc/namedb/named.conf >Feb 26 17:20:07 access2 named[974]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >/etc/namedb/named.conf >Feb 26 17:20:19 access2 named[981]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >/etc/namedb/named.conf >Feb 26 17:23:46 access2 named[1005]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >/etc/namedb/named.conf > >any clues please? > >Cheers, > >Noah >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:49:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7974516A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B572A13C4A5 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1REnPjF016612 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:49:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1REnOVH016609 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:49:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:49:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: User Questions In-Reply-To: <20070227092736.93FC.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20070227154846.G16483@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E3ADE7.6080803@u.washington.edu> <20070227145308.R8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070227092736.93FC.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:49:29 -0000 > >> fortunately it's not my pain :) and i'm not interested in groups like >> Intel which naturally support windows and microsoft every place. > > I think it could be more accurately stated that Intel, among others, i think i was accurate in what i said :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 14:50:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8144516A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:50:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63E913C481 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1REosUK016814; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:50:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1REors8016809; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:50:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:50:53 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Igor Robul In-Reply-To: <45E43F55.6060407@speechpro.com> Message-ID: <20070227154940.R16483@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E43F55.6060407@speechpro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:50:58 -0000 >> use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at least >> for me > Does dovecont support shared forders? what are "shared folders"? is it some standard or some M$-standard? if some e-mails has to be shared, i simply create e-mail account for them, and more that one person gets IMAP access to it. that's all, folders are shared From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 15:23:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CBE16A40A for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:23:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noah@juniper.net) Received: from borg.juniper.net (borg.juniper.net [207.17.137.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3A213C471 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noah@juniper.net) Received: from unknown (HELO beta.jnpr.net) ([172.24.18.109]) by borg.juniper.net with ESMTP; 27 Feb 2007 07:23:57 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,226,1170662400"; d="scan'208"; a="682605656:sNHT108749874" Received: from emailsmtp55.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.132]) by beta.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:23:57 -0800 Received: from [172.23.10.40] ([172.23.10.40]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:23:52 -0800 Message-ID: <45E44D06.7000308@juniper.net> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:23:50 -0800 From: Noah Garrett Wallach User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> <20070227145130.F8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070227145130.F8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2007 15:23:52.0196 (UTC) FILETIME=[49659C40:01C75A83] Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:23:58 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant >> > figure > >> out why. >> there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot >> > process. > >> even when I manually start there are no error messages. >> >> # grep named /etc/rc.conf >> named_enable="YES" >> # pkg_info | grep bind >> bind9-9.3.4 Completely new version of the BIND DNS suite with >> > updated > > > why you are installing bind from ports - there is bind9 in base system. > and it's controlled with named_enable. > because there are security exploits and keeping upto date version is important to me. http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/bind-security.php > > have you configured right version in right (/etc/namedb) directory? > I will check that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 15:34:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5ED16A404 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk (gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk [87.106.72.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54CA13C49D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BE22DE3D; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:34:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk Received: from gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PcfYXbxurq08; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:34:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.10.147] (dsl172-67.as6911.net [62.84.172.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C539D2DE3B; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:34:48 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <45E44F97.5000209@joeholden.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:34:47 +0000 From: Joe Holden User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E43F55.6060407@speechpro.com> <20070227154940.R16483@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070227154940.R16483@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Igor Robul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:34:57 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at >>> least for me >> Does dovecont support shared forders? > > what are "shared folders"? is it some standard or some M$-standard? > As in shared namespaces? I'm sure thats an IMAP standard, rather than just an MS thing? Dovecot is brilliant also, especially with kqueue support now! Pretty sure it does "shared folders." Ta, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 15:38:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140CB16A4C8 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D101713C4A6 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RFZfGV064061; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:35:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1RFZekj064060; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:35:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:35:40 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Kelly Jones Message-ID: <20070227153540.GD63860@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: nmlug@nmlug.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com, linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Effectively detaching 'less' from a pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:38:12 -0000 On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:27:41PM -0700, Kelly Jones wrote: > I often run commands piped to 'less', to make sure the command is > working OK by looking at the first few lines of output. > > Once I'm convinced, though, I'd like to "get rid" of less, and just > have the rest of stdout spewed to the terminal (and/or /dev/null > and/or to a file I specify). > > In other words, I want to stop hitting 'space' until my program terminates. You got several good suggestions. Along a somewhat different path, have you checked out script(1). It isn't quite what you are asking, but might also be helpful. Just type 'script some_file_name' and it will dump all screen output to that file until you exit script with a CTRL-D. ////jerry > > How can I do this? > > My current kludges (both ugly): > > 1. do "command > file" and then "tail -f file | less" (this mostly > works, but takes a while to get started because of buffering issues) > > 2. do "command | less", and once I'm happy w/ the output, hit 'q' to > quit less (and thus terminate program) and then do "command > > /dev/null" (works, but wastes time, since I have to run the command > once just to look at the first few lines and then abort it) > > -- > We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying > to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to > new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 15:42:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C133616A46B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9510613C471 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [192.168.1.10]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8654D28F82D; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:42:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: Joe Holden In-Reply-To: <45E44F97.5000209@joeholden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20070227154151.Y64053@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E43F55.6060407@speechpro.com> <20070227154940.R16483@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E44F97.5000209@joeholden.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Igor Robul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:42:24 -0000 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Joe Holden wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at >>>> least for me >>> Does dovecont support shared forders? >> >> what are "shared folders"? is it some standard or some M$-standard? >> > As in shared namespaces? I'm sure thats an IMAP standard, rather than just > an MS thing? > > Dovecot is brilliant also, especially with kqueue support now! Pretty sure > it does "shared folders." > According to http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders it does. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 16:12:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B12316A407 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd@cs1000m.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5449013C478 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd@cs1000m.com) Received: from adsl-69-210-74-164.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net ([69.210.74.164] helo=cheyenne.sixcompanies.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HM4FB-0000uc-4k; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:27:57 -0500 Received: from dakota.sixcompanies.com (cheyenne.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.170]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1RFRt6w011148; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:27:55 -0600 (CST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 69.210.74.164 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: lonebandit Message-Id: <200702271527.l1RFRt6w011148@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:28:51 -0600 To: Noah Garrett Wallach From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <45E44D06.7000308@juniper.net> References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> <20070227145130.F8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E44D06.7000308@juniper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Wojciech Puchar , User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:12:19 -0000 At 09:23 AM 02/27/2007, Noah Garrett Wallach wrote: >Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant >>> >>figure >>>out why. >>>there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot >>> >>process. >> >>>even when I manually start there are no error messages. >>> >>># grep named /etc/rc.conf >>>named_enable="YES" >>># pkg_info | grep bind >>>bind9-9.3.4 Completely new version of the BIND DNS suite with >>> >>updated >> >> >>why you are installing bind from ports - there is bind9 in base >>system. and it's controlled with named_enable. >> > >because there are security exploits and keeping upto date version is >important to me. >http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/bind-security.php I actually rolled my own version of Bind (9.4.0) and have it working perfectly and starting under rc.conf (I had to edit /etc/rc.d/named though) -JD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 16:33:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB83F16A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@techally.com) Received: from athena.ocsny.com (athena.ocsinternet.com [204.107.76.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8318E13C478 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@techally.com) Received: from [192.168.2.7] ([10.1.0.85]) by athena.ocsny.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:30:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070227053833.GA26327@ayn.mi.celestial.com> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> <20070227053833.GA26327@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mikel King Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:31:57 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2007 16:30:22.0244 (UTC) FILETIME=[93A69E40:01C75A8C] Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:33:35 -0000 I know this is a little bit of a tangent, but does anyone have a good comprehensive command list, for testing an IMAP server via telnet? Thanks, Mikel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 16:33:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583BA16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@techally.com) Received: from athena.ocsny.com (athena.ocsinternet.com [204.107.76.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C6213C4B2 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@techally.com) Received: from [192.168.2.7] ([10.1.0.85]) by athena.ocsny.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:30:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20070227053833.GA26327@ayn.mi.celestial.com> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> <20070227053833.GA26327@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <09BF3D61-9DCB-4F62-8723-0FD0D7DE9F00@techally.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mikel King Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:32:43 -0500 To: freebsd@celestial.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2007 16:30:39.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[9DB34000:01C75A8C] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:33:36 -0000 On Feb 27, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Bill Campbell wrote: > > I glad I didn't know that after dropping my last cell phone in > the crapper. The display was toast, but it was alive enough that > I could use iSync on my OS X box to grab all the phone info and > load it into my new phone. If I had known that OS X didn't have > this capability, I couldn't have done this. FWIW, this was about > three years ago. > > Bill That's a really unpleasant visual. Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 16:40:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8276016A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CFB13C4A6 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [192.168.1.10]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA47E28F82D; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:40:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: Mikel King In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070227163809.Y64053@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> <20070227053833.GA26327@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:40:38 -0000 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Mikel King wrote: > I know this is a little bit of a tangent, but does anyone have a good > comprehensive command list, for testing an IMAP server via telnet? > I would think you should be able to use this: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3501.html I use it when I need to get IMAP syntax for a command. Examples are shown on command usage and can be executed via a telnet session. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 16:46:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F52516A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.m.graham@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1069C13C46B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.m.graham@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so2435033wri for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:46:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mGCXObLcykEz3gk28lkVVrtf7jHbfiIF44oURC0toSPoifWTBxZO10/8rsv1ZRGutfmXrVfulbXIFETMRDivqShT+aD+2vVb5Piu2VXcq0JZLeKr5I7sZqAqLqbxmvgyRsHvCU7oJceW2x3KkrFfglfFttINuwH1ZheZTah5Ld0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FmlFgDxZR8/iFzO9xRZESfUh4cv+JQfaxallbSdA+5A886qNjfeXd01Vvf3lgBlAatiw3boDsnyZi6bt29EUm72S/SMcP1YxwNe8xqFvrJ2pGrsRjq3bcW3x7i/kMXQSf5yC+WyiMEghZ2WTxEsiuFePO+8/xlijoogLlAI+Xoo= Received: by 10.115.32.1 with SMTP id k1mr382711waj.1172594082707; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.19.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:34:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <93e244cc0702270834r3985e438we4117c98b78d246d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:34:42 -0800 From: "Ryan Graham" To: linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26face530702261927w553488a1uae8629aa3d827497@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com, nmlug@nmlug.org Subject: Re: [lug:7827] Effectively detaching 'less' from a pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:46:13 -0000 Check the man pages for tee and head. From your description, they may work better. If nothing else, you can probably figure out something better than what you're doing now. And please don't cross-post. I highly doubt everyone on all those lists/groups is subscribed to all the others. ~Ryan On 2/26/07, Kelly Jones wrote: > > I often run commands piped to 'less', to make sure the command is > working OK by looking at the first few lines of output. > > Once I'm convinced, though, I'd like to "get rid" of less, and just > have the rest of stdout spewed to the terminal (and/or /dev/null > and/or to a file I specify). > > In other words, I want to stop hitting 'space' until my program terminates. > > How can I do this? > > My current kludges (both ugly): > > 1. do "command > file" and then "tail -f file | less" (this mostly > works, but takes a while to get started because of buffering issues) > > 2. do "command | less", and once I'm happy w/ the output, hit 'q' to > quit less (and thus terminate program) and then do "command > > /dev/null" (works, but wastes time, since I have to run the command > once just to look at the first few lines and then abort it) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:08:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B6816A402; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C04D13C4A3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6992568600DF3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id t-zDJQCeaVa9; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 2CE4068600DED; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:38 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: Bill Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070227171438.GA14341@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bill Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:08:15 -0000 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>>how usable Outlook is with IMAP. >>>> >>>>The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they >>>>develop that mailserver. >> >>As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap >>(where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-). > >use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at >least for me I haven't looked at dovecot. Does it maintain a group of listeners, similar to apache's, to handle incoming requests as courier-imap does? So far we have had excellent performance with courier-imap at sites with about 10,000 mail clients hitting a single server (most of whom are using the POP interface as these are ISP sites). Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. -- Frederick Douglass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:08:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B6816A402; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C04D13C4A3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6992568600DF3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id t-zDJQCeaVa9; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 2CE4068600DED; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:14:38 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: Bill Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070227171438.GA14341@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bill Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:08:15 -0000 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>>how usable Outlook is with IMAP. >>>> >>>>The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they >>>>develop that mailserver. >> >>As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap >>(where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-). > >use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at >least for me I haven't looked at dovecot. Does it maintain a group of listeners, similar to apache's, to handle incoming requests as courier-imap does? So far we have had excellent performance with courier-imap at sites with about 10,000 mail clients hitting a single server (most of whom are using the POP interface as these are ISP sites). Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. -- Frederick Douglass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:10:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD78C16A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF4F13C441 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1RHApFM070831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E465FB.5010600@enabled.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:10:19 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: named not starting on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:10:25 -0000 Hi there, I am having troubles with named not starting on boot nor am I am able to start it manually. I thought I have my chrootdir set correctly. here are my settings in my rc.conf ----s nip ---- named_enable="YES" named_uid="bind" named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" named_flags="-c /etc/namedb/named.conf" named_chrootdir="/var/named" ---- snip--- here are the /var/log/messages error: Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: /etc/named.conf:6: change directory to '/var/named/etc/namedb' failed: file not found Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: /etc/named.conf:6: parsing failed Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: loading configuration: file not found Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: exiting (due to fatal error) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:15:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BBF16A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8E113C49D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] ([192.168.10.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1RHGCSk036909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:16:13 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E46717.3040504@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:15:03 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J.D. Bronson" References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> <20070227145130.F8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E44D06.7000308@juniper.net> <200702271527.l1RFRt6w011148@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> In-Reply-To: <200702271527.l1RFRt6w011148@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Noah Garrett Wallach , User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:15:20 -0000 >> >> because there are security exploits and keeping upto date version is >> important to me. >> http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/bind-security.php > Patched and available to via freebsd-update (and cvs and cvsup and the links in FreeBSD-SA-07:02.bind) since 9th but thats by the by. > I actually rolled my own version of Bind (9.4.0) and have it working > perfectly and starting under rc.conf > > (I had to edit /etc/rc.d/named though) hmm there's a port for 9.4, but since it doesnt have the options for DLZ which i hear is now integrated i guess you need to roll your own for that stuff. you could probably have got away with just setting some configure options (like --sysconfdir=/etc/namedb) and the named_program variable in /etc/rc.conf rather than hacking /etc/rc.d/named though. Vince > > -JD > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:21:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06D716A412 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noah@juniper.net) Received: from kremlin.juniper.net (kremlin.juniper.net [207.17.137.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51ED413C4C6 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noah@juniper.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamma.jnpr.net) ([172.24.245.25]) by kremlin.juniper.net with ESMTP; 27 Feb 2007 09:21:19 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,226,1170662400"; d="scan'208"; a="663207291:sNHT33587684" Received: from emailsmtp55.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.132]) by gamma.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:21:19 -0800 Received: from [172.23.10.40] ([172.23.10.40]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:21:18 -0800 Message-ID: <45E4688D.6060101@juniper.net> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:21:17 -0800 From: Noah Garrett Wallach User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> <6.0.0.22.2.20070227084100.02563750@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070227084100.02563750@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2007 17:21:18.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[B199AF80:01C75A93] Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:21:22 -0000 Hi there, I dont have a user name named. I have a user named bind. so bind is what I am going with. named_enable="YES" named_uid="bind" named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" named_flags="-c /etc/namedb/named.conf" named_chrootdir="/var/named" cheers, Noah Derek Ragona wrote: > In the newer versions of bind you need to add to /etc/rc.conf: > named_uid="username" > you want to run named as. > > -Derek > > At 07:24 PM 2/26/2007, Noah Garrett Wallach wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant >> figure out why. >> there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot >> process. >> >> even when I manually start there are no error messages. >> >> # grep named /etc/rc.conf >> named_enable="YES" >> # pkg_info | grep bind >> bind9-9.3.4 Completely new version of the BIND DNS suite with >> updated D >> >> >> >> # grep BIND messages >> Feb 26 11:50:53 access2 named[1704]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >> Feb 26 14:07:19 access2 named[990]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >> Feb 26 17:19:59 access2 named[966]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >> /etc/namedb/named.conf >> Feb 26 17:20:07 access2 named[974]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >> /etc/namedb/named.conf >> Feb 26 17:20:19 access2 named[981]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >> /etc/namedb/named.conf >> # /etc/rc.d/named stop >> # /etc/rc.d/named start >> # grep BIND messages >> Feb 26 11:50:53 access2 named[1704]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >> Feb 26 14:07:19 access2 named[990]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >> Feb 26 17:19:59 access2 named[966]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >> /etc/namedb/named.conf >> Feb 26 17:20:07 access2 named[974]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >> /etc/namedb/named.conf >> Feb 26 17:20:19 access2 named[981]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >> /etc/namedb/named.conf >> Feb 26 17:23:46 access2 named[1005]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >> /etc/namedb/named.conf >> >> any clues please? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Noah >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:30:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BFA16A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBE913C48D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1074800ugh for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:30:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=bftVWH26xSWi3z/wBvVqJ23ik0z6UB4wimblGUwh6TCYvHGIw12bmWC5VsGCrnMwLI5zJe/S+RE7E8QlrcvWckpxGf+3gzPDiOWoQLGe6+O7+BmaqluIvb/tXd96hJ5wEONPhd8s/dAOe/glgVx+QpTB1x1UdEkiYvDrbD+ffB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=Sh2aZZVXjYpZs9VCy2cPAOKlO/Lvgb8R/xJc9bdp2UVFS2TnjUaCTVIb/cnzqJzBBR+RHflJmG4Ap+e09NBW691KsOkp7XSRTwl0v7mVot0Bpw7VrZyUe89z03r2FeQALeNgo8BkdDG5lEBazN4i4BCuNQx4dOVv4+3cma5MPSI= Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr8361447ugm.1172597444049; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from persephone.orchid.homeunix.org ( [84.10.174.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o24sm7423349ugd.2007.02.27.09.30.42; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:30:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E46AB6.4080803@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:30:30 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <45E465FB.5010600@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <45E465FB.5010600@enabled.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF6ED2F6580B5A27F4051B7F1" Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: karol.kwiat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:30:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF6ED2F6580B5A27F4051B7F1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noah wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > I am having troubles with named not starting on boot nor am I am able t= o > start it manually. I thought I have my chrootdir set correctly. >=20 > here are my settings in my rc.conf >=20 > ----s nip ---- >=20 > named_enable=3D"YES" > named_uid=3D"bind" > named_program=3D"/usr/local/sbin/named" > named_flags=3D"-c /etc/namedb/named.conf" > named_chrootdir=3D"/var/named" >=20 > ---- snip--- >=20 >=20 > here are the /var/log/messages error: >=20 >=20 > Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: /etc/named.conf:6: change director= y > to '/var/named/etc/namedb' failed: file not found ^^^^^^^^^^ Here is a mistake. Is a 'directory' in /etc/namedb/named.conf set to '/var/named/etc/namedb'? "/var/named/etc/namedb" is a global path, named starting in chroot won't be able to see it. Just change it back to "/etc/namedb". HTH, Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP 0x06E09309 --------------enigF6ED2F6580B5A27F4051B7F1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF5Gq9ezeoPAwGIYsRCP8TAJ4gXJwTi+BHmPZWqSqgjymNk8EgRwCfU0/d TKoB9mKnrnpTDQsKH3vjNLM= =k9P6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF6ED2F6580B5A27F4051B7F1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:40:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CC716A40B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AC813C4A7 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1RHdQV9030889; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:39:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070227113635.0252b830@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:39:19 -0600 To: Noah Garrett Wallach From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <45E4688D.6060101@juniper.net> References: <45E38849.3090100@juniper.net> <6.0.0.22.2.20070227084100.02563750@mail.computinginnovations.com> <45E4688D.6060101@juniper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:40:01 -0000 I was using "username" as an example. You can use bind, root, or any valid user. That user should own the directory you plan to use for the chroot, or the namedb starting point. Most likely you have a chroot problem, you need to be sure you have that file tree setup correctly. -Derek At 11:21 AM 2/27/2007, Noah Garrett Wallach wrote: >Hi there, > >I dont have a user name named. I have a user named bind. so bind is what >I am going with. > >named_enable="YES" >named_uid="bind" >named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" >named_flags="-c /etc/namedb/named.conf" >named_chrootdir="/var/named" > > >cheers, > >Noah > > >Derek Ragona wrote: >>In the newer versions of bind you need to add to /etc/rc.conf: >>named_uid="username" >>you want to run named as. >> >> -Derek >> >>At 07:24 PM 2/26/2007, Noah Garrett Wallach wrote: >>>Hi there, >>> >>>named is not starting when I reboot a FreeBSD 6.2 server and I cant >>>figure out why. >>>there are no error mesasges in /var/log/messages during the boot process. >>> >>>even when I manually start there are no error messages. >>> >>># grep named /etc/rc.conf >>>named_enable="YES" >>># pkg_info | grep bind >>>bind9-9.3.4 Completely new version of the BIND DNS suite with >>>updated D >>> >>> >>> >>># grep BIND messages >>>Feb 26 11:50:53 access2 named[1704]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >>>Feb 26 14:07:19 access2 named[990]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >>>Feb 26 17:19:59 access2 named[966]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >>>/etc/namedb/named.conf >>>Feb 26 17:20:07 access2 named[974]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >>>/etc/namedb/named.conf >>>Feb 26 17:20:19 access2 named[981]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >>>/etc/namedb/named.conf >>># /etc/rc.d/named stop >>># /etc/rc.d/named start >>># grep BIND messages >>>Feb 26 11:50:53 access2 named[1704]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >>>Feb 26 14:07:19 access2 named[990]: starting BIND 9.3.3 >>>Feb 26 17:19:59 access2 named[966]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >>>/etc/namedb/named.conf >>>Feb 26 17:20:07 access2 named[974]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >>>/etc/namedb/named.conf >>>Feb 26 17:20:19 access2 named[981]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >>>/etc/namedb/named.conf >>>Feb 26 17:23:46 access2 named[1005]: starting BIND 9.3.4 -c >>>/etc/namedb/named.conf >>> >>>any clues please? >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>Noah >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>>-- >>>This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>believed to be clean. >>>MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:51:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A90016A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zombyfork@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E283313C441 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zombyfork@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so661662ika for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:51:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KUaUln0xGo6VnjkiuqOd147p2hcEFAcnIdD6HyqfCh1mNF2+3OQHo6G9+OdCJftvK2k7w1VUazHKgPk5cZcsQDpb3t84H3t/CRMLV+o9uH3PXCkTtMl7uC5npZqr3W2YnJcS7BmeD3llWma2K79ZLAqKFDUVYDfo8Br5SrQhF2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NAz1mGczWk644x4M4jeSu0WfuixJoZ6A+N9Ey6ARTtSY0uFZfGx3kHsvMox7D8vO5mzbnFT9pYxoT/vTccVkkyiHJB7lWIWi2kwV/5epnulGbWQ30b/neQUThZdv7wWS0JOcSRCZ7LS7Q4r9FrBykPLCcr5NDhhh/hPRJiJR6Mw= Received: by 10.114.169.2 with SMTP id r2mr2652371wae.1172598699331; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.108.15 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:51:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <346a80220702270951r4f5eb2c5k8694a36c4f7ff363@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:51:38 -0700 From: "Coleman Kane" To: "DAK GHATIKACHALAM" In-Reply-To: <5df74baa0702241800u34b7d908o55e1e8a5ba79b7bc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070224194832.42767.qmail@web27705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <5df74baa0702241800u34b7d908o55e1e8a5ba79b7bc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless card not being detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cokane@cokane.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:42 -0000 On 2/24/07, DAK GHATIKACHALAM wrote: > > I wonder why these fraudulent scam artists/spammers abusing our freebsd > lists. > > They are in wrong place with wrong people. > > I am not buying your idea anyway. dude, you chose a wrong person. > > Thanks > Dak > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: wale qazim > Date: Feb 24, 2007 2:48 PM > Subject: Re: Wireless card not being detected > To: DAK GHATIKACHALAM > > Hello, > > > > I want to know if you can sent a Message by Bank Coded Fax or MT Series > Swift. 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There are likely a number of people on those lists who don't subscribe to -hackers, and they may have more experience in the problem. -- Coleman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 17:51:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0C316A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C8013C48D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] ([192.168.10.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1RHqnjT037647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:52:49 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E46FAC.1000809@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:40 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <45E465FB.5010600@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <45E465FB.5010600@enabled.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:51:46 -0000 Noah wrote: > Hi there, > > I am having troubles with named not starting on boot nor am I am able to > start it manually. I thought I have my chrootdir set correctly. > > here are my settings in my rc.conf > > ----s nip ---- > > named_enable="YES" > named_uid="bind" > named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" > named_flags="-c /etc/namedb/named.conf" > named_chrootdir="/var/named" > > ---- snip--- > > > here are the /var/log/messages error: > > > Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: /etc/named.conf:6: change directory > to '/var/named/etc/namedb' failed: file not found > Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: /etc/named.conf:6: parsing failed > Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: loading configuration: file not found > Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: exiting (due to fatal error) > > What are your permissions on /var/named ? how about /var/named/etc/namedb ? by default i think the chroot stuff expects or wants /etc/namedb to be a symlink to /var/named/etc/namedb, is this the case ? What is line 6 of your /etc/named.conf and why is named looking for this rather than /etc/namedb/named.conf as specified. I have the portsversion of 9.3 with DLZ on my laptop as a testbed and it works fine with named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" named_flags="-c /etc/namedb/named.conf" named_chrootdir="/var/named" named_enable="YES" So my guess is permissions or configuration file issue Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 18:00:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D986616A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF3A13C4B3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1RI0V9P074583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E471B9.7080304@enabled.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:00:25 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vince References: <45E465FB.5010600@enabled.com> <45E46FAC.1000809@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45E46FAC.1000809@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named not starting on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:00:32 -0000 Vince wrote: > Noah wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I am having troubles with named not starting on boot nor am I am able to >> start it manually. I thought I have my chrootdir set correctly. >> >> here are my settings in my rc.conf >> >> ----s nip ---- >> >> named_enable="YES" >> named_uid="bind" >> named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" >> named_flags="-c /etc/namedb/named.conf" >> named_chrootdir="/var/named" >> >> ---- snip--- >> >> >> here are the /var/log/messages error: >> >> >> Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: /etc/named.conf:6: change directory >> to '/var/named/etc/namedb' failed: file not found >> Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: /etc/named.conf:6: parsing failed >> Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: loading configuration: file not found >> Feb 27 09:07:46 access2 named[2058]: exiting (due to fatal error) >> >> >> > What are your permissions on /var/named ? how about > /var/named/etc/namedb ? by default i think the chroot stuff expects or > wants /etc/namedb to be a symlink to /var/named/etc/namedb, is this the > case ? > > What is line 6 of your /etc/named.conf and why is named looking for this > rather than /etc/namedb/named.conf as specified. > > I have the portsversion of 9.3 with DLZ on my laptop as a testbed and it > works fine with > named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" > named_flags="-c /etc/namedb/named.conf" > named_chrootdir="/var/named" > named_enable="YES" > > So my guess is permissions or configuration file issue > > > Vince > acutally karol's post helped a great deal: Here is a mistake. Is a 'directory' in /etc/namedb/named.conf set to '/var/named/etc/namedb'? "/var/named/etc/namedb" is a global path, named starting in chroot won't be able to see it. Just change it back to "/etc/namedb". HTH, Karol > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 18:31:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B97916A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEC713C4BA for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [192.168.1.10]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D8F28F82D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:31:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070227182242.E64497@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Invalid argument on accept(2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:31:16 -0000 I have an issue where I'm getting periodic errors in /var/log/messages and /var/log/maillog where it states: Feb 27 18:23:33 smtpgate postfix/smtpd[68480]: fatal: accept connection: Invalid argument I've been to the Postfix list and have received a number of responses. One of the developers is stating: "Erroring out with EINVAL would still be a kernel bug." This server is running FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p9 amd64. Perhaps someone could enlighten me on what I can do to debug some socket connections to see what's going on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 18:49:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13C416A406 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from ns1.internetinsite.com (ns1.internetinsite.com [208.179.97.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0813C4B4 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from squirrel.kq6up.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ns1.internetinsite.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RInHHX031568 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:49:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from 163.150.15.182 (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris) by squirrel.kq6up.org with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:49:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <48868.163.150.15.182.1172602157.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:49:17 -0800 (PST) From: chris@chrismaness.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Squirrelmail Calendar Broken After Upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:49:19 -0000 I just upgraded php due to a security issue, so I have upgraded squirrelmail too. The calendar no longer has administration options and all of the entries we have added disappeared. I looked on their site for documentation of this issue, but no luck. Maybe it is a specific issue with the ports anyone else experiencing the same problem? Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:13:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4966916A403 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1EA13C428 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.145.126]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1RJD0a6049808; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:13:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E482B6.6040701@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:12:54 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris@chrismaness.com References: <48868.163.150.15.182.1172602157.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> In-Reply-To: <48868.163.150.15.182.1172602157.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Squirrelmail Calendar Broken After Upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:13:10 -0000 chris@chrismaness.com wrote: > I just upgraded php due to a security issue, so I have upgraded > squirrelmail too. The calendar no longer has administration options and > all of the entries we have added disappeared. I looked on their site for > documentation of this issue, but no luck. Maybe it is a specific issue > with the ports anyone else experiencing the same problem? > Just guessing, but it seems kind of likely that upgrading Squirrelmail overwrote your config file? I've not used SM for a while (RoundCube now) but most PHP apps have a "config.php" or similar which might contains such things at database authentication information ... the lack of which would, most likely, cause just the sort of effect you describe. Kevin Kinsey -- Calvin: I wonder where we go when we die. Hobbes: Pittsburgh? Calvin: You mean if we're good or if we're bad? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:14:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D6716A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F80313C478 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so270882nfc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:14:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ILPHeANGqnhB+idtYDF/auvoLpwBXf/b4nWmYxshWA378h9krFld1Wj+wXl5YJvgYLK8K7y45hPPET5Nkivzi3+EcnzIaCQP8V5xCT03l+tTGLvZJWYiUCU47PTU/hVfrtiJ0iNOeaPeim6+LYzRR2BgSZWwVzcR2Igf43fwznc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LLaOKSMK7G96s7B/jBg1ukP4hdm7nSF3gbR/NRXLB7+LU0oBys+/HzMdB/Uwf8t4W+T2/3bjEEcOFL58CHNP5Nw11scEXfPe5+HtLGnCBADAN1yfkxNbH9prZ3rUk/oPkRudlvUQY9j7dBFrayqKkdoAQwnYyp0tfiF895w9yds= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr597022hue.1172602027598; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.43.4 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:47:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:47:07 -0800 From: patrick To: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: mysql50-server on FreeBSD 6.2 w/ LINUX_THREADS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:14:10 -0000 Is it still advisable to build the mysql50-server on FreeBSD 6.2 using the LINUX_THREADS option? I'm using the SMP kernel on an older dual 1.0GHz Pentium III. This page suggests that the libthr library in FreeBSD 6.x is optimized for MySQL and perhaps better than using linuxthreads. Any thoughts? Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:26:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7161116A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1575B13C4A5 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so797662wri for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:26:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PYXMyDlyoaxxX9LaJuKTE3YBpoi5joUvjUHAHcTnSTX8wG7Y+C2AubId77lVFBPNj3F0TFltrPSYAxNMRUmherX7g6IMDLGg1YVhltsDQXZGBhAvHEuHA6FsEIwIcR2i+0DAVoRAj5uTwgGDj5eDuQj4fJhfXOyTO/72pIKovKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cMHjORIY24FHm8EkXxnWJ9EhZM0ZDe5+zLPFSLxm2Pdd45qAUwqBzaVQdcnAHEmB4UAtj/NmOxvoOnRbF4RzdxmaHLVeq2UQu2W0PQzZ43Bab4nRzC9XuBoPAQMPjNupreX228COGRVNnL735b8gSCOy+I35bJwspK5XdoXjGQ4= Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr377944wae.1172604390514; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.12 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:26:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:26:30 -0500 From: "Don Munyak" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: pkg_add problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:26:33 -0000 I am having trouble using pkg_add -r . I keep getting the following error. --------------------------------------- p0069# pkg_add -r bash Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/bash.tbz: Network is unreachable pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/bash.tbz' by URL p0069# --------------------- I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but - I have rebuilt the kernel successfully --------------------- p0069# uname -a FreeBSD p0069.bm.local 6.1-RELEASE-p12 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p12 #0: Thu Feb 8 13:55:26 EST 2007 xxxx@p0069.bm.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WEBSERVER i386 -------------------- - And there is no ports tree installed.. ie /usr/ports does not exist. - I can ping ftp.freebsd.org - I can also ftp>open ftp.freebsd.org Any thoughts on trouble shooting this would be appreciated. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:30:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834B216A408; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D796013C4A6; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RJU29d049301; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RJU1ab049296; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:30:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Bill Campbell In-Reply-To: <20070227171438.GA14341@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Message-ID: <20070227202827.F49040@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070227171438.GA14341@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:30:20 -0000 > > I haven't looked at dovecot. Does it maintain a group of listeners, > similar to apache's, to handle incoming requests as courier-imap does? you can set listening IP in config or *, not much more. if i do understand your question. no such many options like apache. > > So far we have had excellent performance with courier-imap at sites with > about 10,000 mail clients hitting a single server (most of whom are using > the POP interface as these are ISP sites). mine has 500-1000 clients, but makes unnoticable load. looks like both are OK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:30:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834B216A408; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D796013C4A6; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RJU29d049301; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RJU1ab049296; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:30:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Bill Campbell In-Reply-To: <20070227171438.GA14341@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Message-ID: <20070227202827.F49040@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070227171438.GA14341@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:30:20 -0000 > > I haven't looked at dovecot. Does it maintain a group of listeners, > similar to apache's, to handle incoming requests as courier-imap does? you can set listening IP in config or *, not much more. if i do understand your question. no such many options like apache. > > So far we have had excellent performance with courier-imap at sites with > about 10,000 mail clients hitting a single server (most of whom are using > the POP interface as these are ISP sites). mine has 500-1000 clients, but makes unnoticable load. looks like both are OK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:31:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AB016A411 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmercer@nc.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-05.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B013F13C478 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmercer@nc.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.172.8] (cpe-071-065-251-196.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.251.196]) by ms-smtp-05.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RImZjK018947 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:48:36 -0500 (EST) From: Michael E Mercer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:48:35 -0500 Message-Id: <1172602115.997.2.camel@fast.> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: [OT] any ideas why Maven 2.0.4 can not connect to any external repositories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mmercer@nc.rr.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:31:36 -0000 Hello, I finally got around to updating to 5.5-Stable from about a 6-9 months before its last update. Since then, I've been unable to connect with Maven 2.0.4 and Limewire for that matter. Any ideas, a config file I need to change now? Thank you, -- Michael E. Mercer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:31:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C8016A485 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9947A13C4C3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RJVj5v049499; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:31:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RJVe2L049484; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:31:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:31:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Duane Hill In-Reply-To: <20070227154151.Y64053@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> Message-ID: <20070227203030.H49040@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E43F55.6060407@speechpro.com> <20070227154940.R16483@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E44F97.5000209@joeholden.co.uk> <20070227154151.Y64053@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Igor Robul , Joe Holden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:31:49 -0000 >>> >> As in shared namespaces? I'm sure thats an IMAP standard, rather than just >> an MS thing? >> >> Dovecot is brilliant also, especially with kqueue support now! Pretty sure >> it does "shared folders." >> > According to http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders it does. nice. actually i never needed this so don't know. anyway such feature (not in dovecot, but generally) is strange thing for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:33:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431EB16A40A for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539AE13C4B8 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RJX5w9049673; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:33:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RJX5QL049670; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:33:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:33:05 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Joe Holden In-Reply-To: <45E44F97.5000209@joeholden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20070227203155.W49040@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> <45E38293.6000403@sonicboom.org> <20070227023103.GA31729@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <20070227150304.H8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E43F55.6060407@speechpro.com> <20070227154940.R16483@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E44F97.5000209@joeholden.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Igor Robul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:33:09 -0000 >> > As in shared namespaces? I'm sure thats an IMAP standard, rather than just > an MS thing? > > Dovecot is brilliant also, especially with kqueue support now! Pretty sure > it does "shared folders." it works fast with IMAP with Maildir folders having tens of thousands of e-mails. don't ask me why i have such large folders, rather ask my users :) but it works well that case. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:34:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA6116A403 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5A813C481 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1RJYZDF049850; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:34:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1RJYW53049841; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:34:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:34:32 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: chris@chrismaness.com In-Reply-To: <48868.163.150.15.182.1172602157.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> Message-ID: <20070227203339.A49040@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <48868.163.150.15.182.1172602157.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Squirrelmail Calendar Broken After Upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:34:44 -0000 > I just upgraded php due to a security issue, so I have upgraded > squirrelmail too. The calendar no longer has administration options and > all of the entries we have added disappeared. I looked on their site for Maybe OT, but check sqwebmail. it runs without PHP, mysql and other such things, just requires Maildir folders and it works well. no bugs and VERY fast. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 20:16:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC116A403 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F26B13C4AA for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 1871 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2007 20:16:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=QReZQcqcwKlqZ3z7fy6gULKl0rzonmVnQb9/AAcrBDvQ6cwRGdpU6kNyYp/STy+3UrFh/RndiiMSD5dvIXIYE+wxjOcc3fAMQEVbrEwTGQL0BXA3khTWnN47Mn9jq+GFX2w5fJIFD3wk0QMFIg8eFQ9lavNzA9UCnLl34B5bvLA=; X-YMail-OSG: 2p8FPMIVM1lC11eRnMZR8SJP2S0A_.rL.qMme1m9FDIv5r.G8ZTgmIhUdnp7LCpbyrFMSFFTRqmWPFXKIBBt1t1xMWiy8.CZeWj0QtKBLUoIKhzLcrj8rgw6slbre0UTOV52Oz_.Mtr3GUM- Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:16:49 PST Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:16:49 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole Harrington To: FreeBSD-DataBase , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <4279.612.qm@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Getting errors while trying to use new Mysql 50 port and pkg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:16:51 -0000 Hello, I have 2 database servers running as slaves from a Master database. One (db2) is running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE from October. The other, (db3) on a new build of FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE. Both are AMD64. Db2 is running mysql 5.0.24a and has been working fine. Db3 however, running mysql 5.0.33 keeps giving an error 127 after awhile, for a couple of our tables. The tables all check as ok. 070227 11:24:48 [ERROR] Got error 127 when reading table './user_info' We had this problem before with the ports built version on db2, but when we switched to the pkg build it went away. Now none of the build options seem to work and sadly I do not have the old copy of mysql 5.024a to try on this server. (forgot to use -K) I have tried the Ports build with and without various optimizations, the Pkg build and a downloaded binary from mysql. (5.0.27) All produced the errors within an hour of running. perror shows this to mean: MySQL error code 127: Record-file is crashed. When the error is reported, the query that caused it responds with an error, but all other queries work. Running a repair on the tables shows everything ok. Any suggestions greatly appreciated! Thanks! Nicole -- Free The Bound Periodicals! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 20:18:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBB616A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from ns1.internetinsite.com (ns1.internetinsite.com [208.179.97.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD86D13C4A8 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from squirrel.kq6up.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ns1.internetinsite.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RKIXvo031996; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:18:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from 163.150.15.182 (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris) by squirrel.kq6up.org with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:18:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <21560.163.150.15.182.1172607513.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> In-Reply-To: <45E482B6.6040701@daleco.biz> References: <48868.163.150.15.182.1172602157.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <45E482B6.6040701@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:18:33 -0800 (PST) From: chris@chrismaness.com To: "Kevin Kinsey" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: maria.maness@rcc.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Squirrelmail Calendar Broken After Upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:18:36 -0000 > chris@chrismaness.com wrote: >> I just upgraded php due to a security issue, so I have upgraded >> squirrelmail too. The calendar no longer has administration options and >> all of the entries we have added disappeared. I looked on their site >> for >> documentation of this issue, but no luck. Maybe it is a specific issue >> with the ports anyone else experiencing the same problem? >> > > Just guessing, but it seems kind of likely that upgrading Squirrelmail > overwrote your config file? I've not used SM for a while (RoundCube > now) but most PHP apps have a "config.php" or similar which might > contains such things at database authentication information ... the lack > of which would, most likely, cause just the sort of effect you describe. > > Kevin Kinsey > > -- > Calvin: I wonder where we go when we die. > Hobbes: Pittsburgh? > Calvin: You mean if we're good or if we're bad? > > Thanks, it wasn't the config file, but you clued me in on the fact that the calendar plugin that comes with the distribution overwrote the 3rd party shared calendar. I just untared back over it and it is fine. Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 20:29:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B75E16A403 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dakfreebsd@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D861513C474 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dakfreebsd@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so852743nza for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:29:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=quS+hQkNa9QxiA+OLVIumfW9mI5L/De/tBcRIXEKMnp0TyhkTb4eT1TNNRvnU01xibAb4u1pCiQdg0Bv8l4LW3XdddQmsP6ah6hs8JA7sEBctowOjuRjibHJ7o/QvnlMKtKh9HTScClads3Z5wo4FfzL59sglKKGQB9VvqllDbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YGbepgmLk8bdNWIUHnqQ4LWekitbDZlKZ92BSLjT6YpK7gicgZWwPUC5d77gqzuuPQ6t4SNmOZb888kJWEAyLnzykZvv0P7tc/DFS3pb39QKfv764k4wNfR2rFTM7fb/eF9/81HsO2QKyVAVUzG1KayT5oIyPNnNZ7DaRBwUExE= Received: by 10.114.125.2 with SMTP id x2mr1256055wac.1172608184567; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.179.15 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:29:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5df74baa0702271229y7179c751m3c6e7b0879826361@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:29:44 -0500 From: "DAK GHATIKACHALAM" To: cokane@cokane.org In-Reply-To: <346a80220702270951r4f5eb2c5k8694a36c4f7ff363@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070224194832.42767.qmail@web27705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <5df74baa0702241800u34b7d908o55e1e8a5ba79b7bc@mail.gmail.com> <346a80220702270951r4f5eb2c5k8694a36c4f7ff363@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless card not being detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:29:49 -0000 On 2/27/07, Coleman Kane wrote: > > On 2/24/07, DAK GHATIKACHALAM wrote: > > > I wonder why these fraudulent scam artists/spammers abusing our > > freebsd > > lists. > > > > They are in wrong place with wrong people. > > > > I am not buying your idea anyway. dude, you chose a wrong person. > > > > Thanks > > Dak > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: wale qazim > > Date: Feb 24, 2007 2:48 PM > > Subject: Re: Wireless card not being detected > > To: DAK GHATIKACHALAM > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I want to know if you can sent a Message by Bank Coded Fax or MT Series > > Swift. I am desperate in need of it as soon as possible, you can as wel= l > > > > link me with someone who can do it.. > > > > > > > > In case you can, please send me mail through money_market@lycos.co.uk. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Julio Munento > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: DAK GHATIKACHALAM > > To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > > Sent: Monday, 19 February, 2007 3:56:56 AM > > Subject: Wireless card not being detected > > > > Hi Freebsd > > > > > > I have an issue with new card I need to make it work with freebsd, > > > > > > on /var/log/messages I get > > > > > > Feb 18 20:51:55 DAK kernel: pccard0: > > (manufacturer=3D0x0192, > > produc > > t=3D0x0710, function_type=3D6) at function 0 > > Feb 18 20:51:55 DAK kernel: pccard0: CIS info: Sierra Wireless, > > AC860, 3G > > Net > > work Adapter, R1 > > > > > > For some reason I dont understand why I get unknown card error > > > > Does any one has idea > > > > > > Thanks > > Dak > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg > > " > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *Yahoo! Photos* > >=96 > > NEW, now offering a quality print > > service > >from > > just 8p a photo. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > I think that I've exhausted my expertise in the area. You may wish to try > a more specific list, like freebsd-mobile, > freebsd-hardware, > or freebsd-driversfor more specific help. There are likely a number of people on those li= sts > who don't subscribe to -hackers, and they may have more experience in the > problem. Thanks a lot Coleman. -- > Coleman > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 20:59:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B66816A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8A013C491 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.145.126]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1RKx0jI050596; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:59:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E49B8E.7080000@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:58:54 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Don Munyak References: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pkg_add problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:59:10 -0000 Don Munyak wrote: > I am having trouble using pkg_add -r . I keep getting > the following error. > --------------------------------------- > p0069# pkg_add -r bash > Error: FTP Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/bash.tbz: > The file does or doesn't exist? (I've not checked, we'll leave it in your court) ;-) > Network is unreachable Network troubleshooting...? > pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/bash.tbz' > > by URL > p0069# > --------------------- > > I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but > - I have rebuilt the kernel successfully > --------------------- > p0069# uname -a > FreeBSD p0069.bm.local 6.1-RELEASE-p12 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p12 #0: Thu > Feb 8 13:55:26 EST 2007 > xxxx@p0069.bm.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WEBSERVER i386 > -------------------- > - And there is no ports tree installed.. ie /usr/ports does not exist. > - I can ping ftp.freebsd.org > - I can also ftp>open ftp.freebsd.org So, some network troubleshooting is done. Can you actually download anything from the server, though? FTP runs on two "channels", and needs to connect to a CONTROL port and a DATA port. Possible that CONTROL is open and DATA is blocked? > Any thoughts on trouble shooting this would be appreciated. > > Thanks Those are mine. Good luck! Kevin Kinsey -- You may get an opportunity for advancement today. Watch it! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 21:03:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B7816A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F7713C46B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD51D1A4D80; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1313F513EB; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:03:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:03:12 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: patrick Message-ID: <20070227210312.GA56753@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: mysql50-server on FreeBSD 6.2 w/ LINUX_THREADS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:03:14 -0000 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:47:07AM -0800, patrick wrote: > Is it still advisable to build the mysql50-server on FreeBSD 6.2 using > the LINUX_THREADS option? I'm using the SMP kernel on an older dual > 1.0GHz Pentium III. This page > suggests that the libthr library in FreeBSD 6.x is optimized for MySQL > and perhaps better than using linuxthreads. > > Any thoughts? I think lunixthreads is no longer needed, but try it and see, if you're interested. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 21:26:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266B016A405 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BC013C471 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RLOJr1065298 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:24:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1RLOJ3W065297 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:24:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:24:19 -0500 From: Jerry To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070227212419.GA65273@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:26:51 -0000 Hi, I just did a 6.2 scratch install and missed one thing. I am sure I remember from previous version installs that it asks if I want to install the Linux Compatibility stuff. But, this got all the way done without mentioning it at all. I normally check the All selection on these boxes. I went back and looked and didn't notice any additional place to check this. Am I missing something, or is this now just a standard part of the base? I rummaged through the Release notes and didn't see anything mentioned. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 22:01:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B39916A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from achilles.leela.ws (achilles.leela.ws [66.207.162.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094F513C481 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.249] ([158.145.111.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by achilles.leela.ws (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RLn7Mv003585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:49:08 -0900 (AKST) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Message-ID: <45E4A753.2020508@mac.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:49:07 -0900 From: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061207 Thunderbird/1.5.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry References: <20070227212419.GA65273@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070227212419.GA65273@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:01:30 -0000 On 2007/02/27 12:24, Jerry seems to have typed: > Am I missing something, or is this now just a standard part of > the base? I rummaged through the Release notes and didn't > see anything mentioned. Did you try the handbook? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu-lbc-install.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 22:05:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA0D16A407 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk (gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk [87.106.72.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FF513C46B for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6225C2DE3A; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:49:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk Received: from gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y7oitfJSxwln; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:49:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.10.147] (dsl172-67.as6911.net [62.84.172.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriella.ber.rewt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359422DE26; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:49:44 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <45E4A777.6070205@joeholden.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:49:43 +0000 From: Joe Holden User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry References: <20070227212419.GA65273@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070227212419.GA65273@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:05:13 -0000 Jerry wrote: > Hi, > > I just did a 6.2 scratch install and missed one thing. > I am sure I remember from previous version installs that it > asks if I want to install the Linux Compatibility stuff. > But, this got all the way done without mentioning it at all. > I normally check the All selection on these boxes. I went > back and looked and didn't notice any additional place to > check this. > > Am I missing something, or is this now just a standard part of > the base? I rummaged through the Release notes and didn't > see anything mentioned. > > ////jerry You'll still need to kldload linux and install a base from ports as per usual. Ta, J From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 22:13:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542FE16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martster@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFB313C491 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martster@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1146764ugh for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:13:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ASbaTsgfzEvRimOwLCYrJ8YVjJdvq3y28ekKeFfDjlqSl0qTiEM2Ofp2ZXdmNOzEUBePvzetAB9CQJL29H0gNq6W1Y7Ub/PBCCWoqsFf5F7l59CcmrcnFOdv/arJCgrqqrZMv0fMNdGFv80E9QcOc6QXhkfJyssc/N3HfaTUBdY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=G6CYjxRN1HTcUiiKQ+DCbbfFE6H75oJl6JQCIPndeFC5QwPVP/4ISW691MK6HtXFT28skoT6nl8aJwj+61W8jM6e4qhrqKQcXGjZgEkwq9EXFs3mZfOV6kuu11mMkc8G9eITVb8qXIgilZ/xtjX/kXfaF/s/DZJ6dHeiRQZeqqE= Received: by 10.115.74.1 with SMTP id b1mr101017wal.1172614382364; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.132.1 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:13:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <70063950702271413w7715909dl708b5cf42f445fa6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:13:02 -0500 From: "Marty Landman" To: "Jerry McAllister" In-Reply-To: <20070226153652.GA58704@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070225182126.GA54901@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070226153652.GA58704@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: input/output error on hd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:13:08 -0000 On 2/26/07, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:49:46PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > Firstly, Marty, you should run dumpfs(8) on your ad1s1a. Well this didn't raise my spirits too much: %sudo dumpfs /dev/ad1s1a dumpfs: /dev/ad1s1a: could not read superblock to fill out disk % So I can get to all but my "dead" blocks via the DD command and work with it in hex; used to do mainframe assembler programming and don't particularly mind the workout, so to speak. Only with a road map it's not possible. Maybe I should write Ian Dowse and see if he can point me in the right direction (pun intended). Marty :--\ With the -m > > switch, this produces a single line suitable for feeding into newfs with > > all parameters, and is probably worth saving for all slices in case of > > any subsequent emergencies. I've just done that for mine, anyway, along > > with fdisk and boot0cfg -v output, and bsdlabel output for UFS slices. > > Yes. Good call. > I couldn't think of the dumpfs command the other evening when > I was writing, but that is the place to start. Definitely run > that output to a file. It will take some learning to understand > how to follow it out. There are tables somewhere that tell what > each of those things mean and what fields to look in in the raw > data to find each thing - and to write it back if that is what you > will want to do. > > Note that it will tell you in the first line if your filesystem if UFS2 > or something else. > > Good luck - maybe if you are successful, you can write a paper on it > and post it to a web page somewhere. I probably should have way back > when and then I would remember more now. > > ////jerry > > > > > Without the -m switch, feed the output to a file, or less, as it's very > > voluminous. For a 240GB drive, it'll likely be huge. However the data > > at the head is probably what's needed, though I can't make much of it. > > > > This post by Ian Dowse explains how to compute where the superblocks > > are, for a quoted example dumpfs: http://noc.caravan.ru/faq/SBLOCK.html > > > > Note however that Ian is talking about UFS1 (where the superblock offset > > was 32) but if you consult fsck_ffs(8) you'll see (under -b) that for > > UFS2, which you almost certainly would have used, it's at 140 .. I > > gather that's the offset from the start of each cylinder group? > > > > > > > > Also assuming my bad sectors really are > > > > totally bad, wouldn't fsck allow me to mark them as unusable and > move on? > > > > > > No, fsck does not do that. Marking blocks bad happend below the > > > level of the OS - generally in the disk controller itself. It > remaps > > > sectors until it runs out of spares and when it runs out, it starts > > > reporting unrecoverable errors. This is not even reported to the OS > > > until it runs out of spares. > > > > > > The only thing you can do with those bad sectors is to try and figure > > > out if any of them are superblocks. If they are, you can probably > > > rebuild it from other superblock clones. If it is not, it is > probably > > > lost data. In that case try to overwrite the bad sector. If that > > > works, then the sector itself is OK, but the data that was there is > > > gone. If it doesn't work, then it is bad and there is a good chance > > > that more than data got nuked in the power failure - eg, it damaged > > > the disk or controller in some way. > > > > Seeing if fsck_ffs will use any discovered alternate superblocks would > > be the first step, and if so, whether that helps to get it mounted. I'd > > certainly be careful to mount it read-only before trying data recovery! > > > > Since Marty has already been bravely using dd :) rewriting those sectors > > should be easy enough, bearing in mind the apparent off-by-one numbering > > difference between the sectors dd found bad and those fsck reported bad. > > > > > But, the next thing seems to be learning about how to follow the file > > > chains and how to find and read and write superblocks. Alternatively > > > you can decide it isn't worth the effort to recover and try and write > > > over the drive completely - just totally trash it - and see if those > > > bad sectors will write. If you did that, then you would have to > rebuild > > > the slice and partition table and do a newfs before you could again > > > use the drive and everything previously on it would be lost. > > > > Well if a dd rewriting those specific contiguous sectors failed, I doubt > > that newfs would do any better, so the dd is definitely worth a try, but > > I wouldn't write anything further to the fs until all else has failed. > > > > > Good luck. > > > > I can only echo that, again. > > > > > Maybe someone who has some experience in tracking file chains can > > > respond and give you more helpp than can I. > > > > Ditto for that .. I'm now very thoroughly out of my depth here, though > > I've learned a few new things through the exercise. > > > > Maybe mailing Ian Dowse with circumstances and the dumpfs head might be > > worth a try, Marty? See the website committers' page for his address. > > > > Cheers, Ian > > > -- Web Installed Formmail - http://face2interface.com/formINSTal/ Webmaster's BBS - http://bbs.face2interface.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 22:38:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697AB16A402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3977213C48D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1RMaFB2065655; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:36:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1RMaF7m065654; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:36:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:36:15 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Peter A. Giessel" Message-ID: <20070227223615.GD65301@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070227212419.GA65273@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45E4A753.2020508@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E4A753.2020508@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:38:47 -0000 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 12:49:07PM -0900, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > On 2007/02/27 12:24, Jerry seems to have typed: > > Am I missing something, or is this now just a standard part of > > the base? I rummaged through the Release notes and didn't > > see anything mentioned. > > Did you try the handbook? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu-lbc-install.html Maybe I didn't ask my question well. What I meant to ask is - is this a change that I missed somewhere. I used to get asked during the installation process for a yes/no and I did not see it this time. I think that got some runtime libraries installed along with the linux_enable="YES" plunked in the rc.conf for me. I am aware that I can do it myself later - say I had said no during sysinstall or whatever. Anway, I didn't see it mentioned that this question was removed from sysinstall and I wondered if I missed something - either during the install or in the documentation somewhere. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 22:48:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFE116A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F2413C441 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from adsl-69-210-74-164.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net ([69.210.74.164] helo=cheyenne.sixcompanies.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMB7F-0009mL-To for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:48:14 -0500 Received: from coors.sixcompanies.com (coors.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.5]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1RMmD81013215 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:48:13 -0600 (CST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 69.210.74.164 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: lonebandit Message-Id: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:48:12 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:48:15 -0000 I am converting from DSL to RoadRunner this week and wondering if there is anything special I need to do to my pf.conf for passing DHCP into my NIC? From what I can tell...the NIC comes up *then* pf comes up. But if I dont permit the periodic DHCP stuff in, I am wondering if that will cause an issue. I think if I just permit everything OUT my NIC hooked up to RR I will be ok...but wanted to ask the group: pass out quick on $ext_if from ($ext_if) to any keep state -JD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 22:55:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECB316A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E6713C461 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so336847nfc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:55:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b3+UrLqmiiSN07LijzOUdekpr3E6wAiScRm3A2ViGBwRs9JMchqMfrUpJe68OX05TMAv16Fykvfq16EGlrAleOgPKk1gTJXVvbzqeAgUoi9rcv5Yte4R0jUweIZFaF6FcNXl32rrSd/LR0Q6qz+aALTlzyxd6dcuxKgpvVrbN+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=haJrAD/T1jx3opSBLUJjgcBDMukbfU6OJnaDqltpi9QU2pYwhkrDbaROgX9DM2H04W/147yWR2UxaSnJZZYKUk25RQ3M72ZhLrtj0OT1YcFbf+YMKjJDOcSXhOp12yGzWW/wrCWtQ1BqXxPua9nzdk6l51Ocbn3yBWldrOh1lWg= Received: by 10.82.186.5 with SMTP id j5mr2364487buf.1172616955098; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.163.16 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:55:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:55:55 -0800 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@psualum.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:55:57 -0000 > I am converting from DSL to RoadRunner this week and wondering if > there is anything special I need to do to my pf.conf for passing DHCP > into my NIC? I think all you'll need is: pass in quick on $ext_if proto udp from any port 67 to any port 68 keep state Thanks, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 23:16:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B9216A61A for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from green.dls.net (green.dls.net [209.242.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F1813C48E for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from emailrob.com (216-145-235-248.rev.dls.net [216.145.235.248]) by green.dls.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CA64118F1 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:45:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45E4B495.8000503@emailrob.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:45:41 +0000 From: spellberg_robert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: why can't i turn off fast_time? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:16:32 -0000 greetings, all --- as long as folks are paying attention to this whole time zone foolishness foisted on us by congress [ as if they don't have --real-- work to do; but, i digress ], it seems to be a good time to inquire about my pet peeve. please note: this is the --one-- thing about freebsd that --really--, and i mean --really--, hacks me off. i have yet to figure out how to turn off the warm_weather fast_time bug^h^h^hfeature. i am outside chicago, so i am six hours earlier than london. i choose to not observe fast_time any more than absolutely necessary. twice a year, these nimrods in washington actually expect me to drop what i am doing and go around everywhere and change the clocks. to put not too fine a point on it, i refuse. [ quite by accident, i discovered that this eliminates what i call "solar_shock". now, when others grumble on monday about the sun not being where it was on friday, i laugh. ] the first thing i did was to rtfm. then, i selected a box on which to experiment. the method that seems to work most successfully is to tell the box it's in arizona. this would be great if i were in, say, laramie, but, i haven't moved there, yet. so, it's a little irritating. then, i thought i would be exceedingly clever by creating the missing file that would be logically found between arizona and indiana, using those files as templates. surprise, surprise, they're in binary; just like --windoze--. having read eric raymond's "art of unix programming", i agree completely that configuration files should be in human_readable form, not encoded in binary, mega_corp style. i have put off playing with this approach. last, i tried the environment variable trick, both for the local zone and for utc [ surely, i can make the box do everything in utc, i thought ]. sha_ZAM!!! i thought i had struck the mother_lode. everything was working just as i wanted. i smiled smugly to myself. euphoric, i arose from my throne [ no, silly, the other one ], outstretched my arm and commanded "shutdown -h now". alas, logged messages were timestamped off by one hour. i was crestfallen. this suggests that the mobo clock is on utc [ or something ], fbsd is kloodging this into local fast_time and, then, the environment variable is re_kloodging the kloodge to display what i want to see, but shutdown doesn't honor the re_kloodge. or some such. this is the point where i gave up. i recount the above from memory. the last time i tried to get this right was about a year ago. windoze gets this right [ this is one of the few times when i prefer windoze; think about this ]. i cam select a time_zone, then uncheck the "observe fast_time" box. no problem. but, my 'nix boxen have their own agenda. i solved this by setting them to what displays as utc and what produces the right epoch_offset, then i calculate the correct timestamps myself in my apps. i simply accept that my timestamps are right and some of the system generated timestamps are wrong. c'est la guerre. ------------------------------------------ i wouldn't bother writing except that congress decided to meddle, so some really_smart_people are paying attention. all i want is to be able to set my boxes to utc, with no fast_time, and to have my apps and all of the other apps agree on what the clock says, at --all-- times. it would be a plus if there were binary files for the 4 contiguous us time_zones [ 2 of these already exist ], --if-- that's the trick to getting what i want. [ i suspect that it would be considered a plus by others elsewhere on the planet if such files existed for all 25 hourly zones and the several whose offset is not a multiple of 60 minutes. unlike mowing the lawn, this job well done would not have to be done again. ] it would be a really big plus if non_textual config files were eliminated, but i suspect that this is a bigger project than most folks have time for right now. [ if there is interest, since, at least, --i-- care about this, perhaps i could take this on, but i'm full_up for the next several months. however, it strikes me that this might make a useful project for some one or more of my students. any thoughts? ] ----------------------------------- thanks for letting me inquire. if anyone thinks this sufficiently worthy of either positive or negative response, please cc me as i am not subscribed to -questions. rob spellberg woodstock, illinois From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 23:37:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0307016AB77 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tmplist01@gomoviepod.com) Received: from dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net [129.250.36.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADE813C471 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tmplist01@gomoviepod.com) Received: from [129.250.36.63] (helo=dfw-mmp3.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net with esmtp id 1HMBCn-0004bk-LK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:53:57 +0000 Received: from [198.87.7.164] (helo=iad-wprd-xchw01.corp.verio.net) by dfw-mmp3.email.verio.net with esmtp id 1HMBCn-00064F-Fg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:53:57 +0000 Received: from [10.20.13.76] ([10.20.13.76]) by iad-wprd-xchw01.corp.verio.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:53:34 -0500 Message-ID: <45E4B5DC.1080604@gomoviepod.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:51:08 -0700 From: Tmp List Guy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070102) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2007 22:53:34.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C505350:01C75AC2] Subject: Question on bug X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:37:52 -0000 Hello everyone! Hopefully this is the right area for posting this problem. Here it is: I've been running freebsd servers for some time now and a bug started appearing roughly the time that the new /usr/ports/ports-mgmt tree appeared and the old /usr/ports/sysutils was removed. I've been trying to fix this for days, but I'm not sure how to and I think it might be a bug. Here is what I do to get a bug: server1: cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade server1: make deinstall package A new package gets created in /usr/ports/packages/All. server1: scp /usr/ports/packages/All/portupgrade-2.2.2_4,2.tbz server2:/usr/ports/packages/All I then go to server2 server2: cd /usr/ports/packages/All server2: pkg_add -v portupgrade-2.2.2_4,2.tbz Here's the output I get: extract: Package name is portupgrade-2.2.2_4,2 extract: CWD to /usr/local extract: /usr/local/man/man1/pkg_deinstall.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/pkg_fetch.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/pkg_glob.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/pkg_sort.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/pkgdb.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/portcvsweb.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/portsclean.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/portsdb.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/portupgrade.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/portversion.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man5/pkgtools.conf.5.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/pkg_which.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/portinstall.1.gz extract: /usr/local/man/man1/ports_glob.1.gz extract: execute '/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg' extract: /usr/local/sbin/pkg_deinstall extract: /usr/local/sbin/pkg_fetch extract: /usr/local/sbin/pkg_glob extract: /usr/local/sbin/pkg_sort extract: /usr/local/sbin/pkg_which extract: /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb extract: /usr/local/sbin/portcvsweb extract: /usr/local/sbin/portinstall extract: /usr/local/sbin/ports_glob extract: /usr/local/sbin/portsclean extract: /usr/local/sbin/portsdb extract: /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade extract: /usr/local/sbin/portversion extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkg.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdbtools.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkginfo.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgmisc.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgtools.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgtsort.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgversion.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portinfo.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/ports.rb extract: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb extract: /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf.sample extract: execute '[ -f /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf ] || cp /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf.sample /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf' extract: /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.status-pkg.sh extract: /usr/local/share/zsh/site-functions/_pkgtools extract: /usr/local/share/examples/pkgtools/bash/complete.sample extract: /usr/local/share/examples/pkgtools/tcsh/complete.sample extract: /usr/local/share/doc/pkgtools/ChangeLog extract: /usr/local/share/doc/pkgtools/NEWS extract: /usr/local/share/doc/pkgtools/README extract: execute '/sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg' extract: CWD to (null) Segmentation fault (core dumped) Note that it is trying to CWD into a null directory and that causes the core dump. The same thing happens on my dovecot packages as well. I'm sure that others have the same problem. I don't have the option to build the port on the remote system, otherwise I would do that. I have to use a package to perform the task. Is this a bug or something in my environment that I am not seeing? My system is a 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 00:12:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EAC16B4B7 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E2113C481 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 21304 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2007 11:12:45 +1100 Received: from 203-217-32-208.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.32.208) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 28 Feb 2007 11:12:45 +1100 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:12:42 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" Message-ID: <20070228111242.4f5fee0b@localhost> In-Reply-To: <2598.192.168.11.11.1172570647.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> References: <2598.192.168.11.11.1172570647.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: self-signed certificates in outlook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:12:47 -0000 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:04:07 +0100 (CET) "Zbigniew Szalbot" wrote: > Following a recent discussion I have a question whether there is a way for > outlook not to complain when it comes to using self-signed certificates? Have you tried importing the CA's cert into IE/windows' list of known and accepted authorities? _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome If it's there, and you can see it, it's real. If it's not there, and you can see it, it's virtual. If it's there, and you can't see it, it's transparent. If it's not there, and you can't see it, you erased it. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 01:10:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5AA16BD12 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from lon-mail-1.gradwell.net (lon-mail-1.gradwell.net [193.111.201.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE8113C47E for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from lon-mail-1.gradwell.net ([193.111.201.125] helo=webmaker country=GB ident=dave^pop3#dgmm#net) by lon-mail-1.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.243) id 45e4d670.fa36.26f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:10:08 +0000 (envelope-sender ) From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:10:03 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45E0C941.2030203@gmail.com> <200702261333.03090.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <20070227024604.635df480.coolzone@io.dk> In-Reply-To: <20070227024604.635df480.coolzone@io.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702280110.04426.freebsd01@dgmm.net> Subject: Re: Quanta+ freezes after upgrading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:10:10 -0000 On Tuesday 27 February 2007 01:46, Rico Secada wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:33:02 +0000 > > dgmm wrote: > > On Monday 26 February 2007 05:32, Rico Secada wrote: > > > Since I upgraded KDE to 3.5.5 Quanta+ always freezes when I try to > > > start it up. It doesn't do anything. No errors, just a freeze, and a > > > CPU usage of 97%. > > > > > > Has anyone else experienced problems with Quanta+ since KDE 3.5.5? > > > > No, as I've not upgraded yet, but to help those who might be able to he= lp > > you, open a shell window and run quanta from there so you can see all t= he > > output as the program loads up. =A0Odds are you'll see it stuck in a lo= op > > of some kind looking for files or trying to find backups. > > I wish! :-) There is no output. Odd. If I run quanta from a shell window I see all sort of status info etc= =20 scrolling up the window including output from various KDE modules, Kate and= =20 Quanta. I installed from ports with the default settings. =2D-=20 Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 01:20:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D69516C00D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from mailbackup.inode.at (mailbackup.inode.at [213.229.60.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF2B13C46B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from [62.99.145.14] (port=42764 helo=mx.inode.at) by mailbackup.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HLwqM-0007h2-QY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:33:50 +0100 Received: from [85.124.26.15] (port=3088 helo=[192.168.1.11]) by smartmx-12.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HLwp4-0007TR-8L; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:32:30 +0100 Message-ID: <45E3DE8C.7080300@inode.at> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:32:28 +0100 From: Armin Pirkovitsch User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Liu References: <224548.80276.qm@web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <224548.80276.qm@web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:20:50 -0000 Stephen Liu wrote: > Hi folks, > > FreeBSD-6.2-amd64 > > This is a test, I insalled aprox >80% of the packages on Disc 2 > After installation completed PC rebooted to runlevel 3. Login as user > and run; > > $ startkde > warning: > Kpersonalizer : Cannot connect to Xserer > - repeated- > > $ gnome-session > (gnome-session 1968) gtk-Warning ** cannot open displayed > > $ startx > 3 xterm windows started. On xterm I can start KDE with a lot of > warning displayed on xterm windonw. But I can't start Gnome on xterm. > > I can start "firefox" on xterm. Now I'm posting on "firefox" browser. > > Please advise where I have to check fixing the problems. TIA There are two files that control which windowsmanager shall be used (depending on whether you use a login manager or just startx) One is called .xinitrc the other one .xsession - they are both in your home directory - create them (you can create one of them and symlink the other one) and add the start command to the file (full path) - and make sure they are set executable (chmod 755 ) eg. for kde: exec /usr/local/bin/startkde eg for gnome: exec /usr/local/bin/gnome-session -- Armin Pirkovitsch a.pirko@inode.at From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 02:05:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E0B16C4C8 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdgrills@the-grills.com) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.77.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE8013C491 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdgrills@the-grills.com) Received: from srv2.the-grills.com (c-68-60-243-64.hsd1.il.comcast.net[68.60.243.64]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2007022802051201200ckgv9e>; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:05:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 31860 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Feb 2007 02:05:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:05:12 -0600 From: "Kelly D. Grills" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070228020512.GA31784@the-grills.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/6.2-RELEASE (i386) X-PGP-Key: mailto:kdgrills-pgpkey@the-grills.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: pkg_add problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:05:14 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:26:30PM -0500, Don Munyak wrote: >=20 > I am having trouble using pkg_add -r . I keep getting > the following error. > --------------------------------------- > p0069# pkg_add -r bash > Error: FTP Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/= bash.tbz: > Network is unreachable > pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest= /bash.tbz' > by URL > p0069# > --------------------- > > I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but > - I have rebuilt the kernel successfully > --------------------- > p0069# uname -a > FreeBSD p0069.bm.local 6.1-RELEASE-p12 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p12 #0: Thu > Feb 8 13:55:26 EST 2007 > xxxx@p0069.bm.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WEBSERVER i386 > -------------------- > - And there is no ports tree installed.. ie /usr/ports does not exist. > - I can ping ftp.freebsd.org > - I can also ftp>open ftp.freebsd.org >=20 > Any thoughts on trouble shooting this would be appreciated. >=20 Perhaps verbose output (-v argument) might yield a clue: pkg_add -rv some_p= kg Are you behind a firewall? You might try using passive mode ftp. See pkg_add(1)=20 --=20 Kelly D. Grills kdgrills@the-grills.com --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: PGP key: mailto:kdgrills-pgpkey@the-grills.com iD8DBQFF5ONY7inS5LzF7HMRAvDhAJ9U2fCc3q76xaY5ChE7c4MsxaLpQwCfSlL0 jdJieHfYtRXmmh2kLfxrL6s= =LQXG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 03:55:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CB416D19D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BCF13C428 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1S3thtY003339 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:55:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l1S3thir003338 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:55:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:55:43 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20070228035543.GA77041@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:55:45 -0000 I'm not sure whether this just in Ubuntu or in the Gnome desktop or what, but for days, when I type mail in vi in mutt, sometimes I get a "^?" when I hit the backspace. ^H still works to back up and correct my typos, but that's lots more work that what my fingers are accustomed to. It may be when I'm ssh'd across servers. I thought I'd ask here before I dig into this. I think a new xterm was recently updated in ports; not sure if tat is a factor or not. xev understands that the b'space key is a backspace and tells me the keycode. Should I just us xmodmaprc to fix this? thanks for any clues!! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 04:01:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A7B16D2AB for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from srv.exchange.net24.net.nz (srv.exchange.net24.net.nz [210.55.4.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B373113C467 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:49:03 +1300 Message-ID: <60224D09909C0B43A50935A0893D8FF328EF5E@srv.exchange.net24.net.nz> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Are there ways of limiting user resources when a user process is run via suexec, rathern than via logon? thread-index: Acda62NpFkhKWrIgTWOmu+ewKnLn1A== From: "Brett Davidson" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Are there ways of limiting user resources when a user process is run via suexec, rathern than via logon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:01:10 -0000 Obviously I could use the features in logon.conf to partially restrict user activitity if users actually logged on. Instead, the app concerned runs under suexec where (as I understand things) logon, per se, is not involved. =20 Is there anything in FreeBSD equivalent to Solaris Resouce Manager? ie. a different share-weighted scheduler for instance? =20 What I want is that all processes running under either a particular uid range or a particular gid range could be restricted to a certain amount of CPU and/or memory. Other systems (such as the Solaris product mentioned above) do this by implementing a different scheduler that weights allowed activity according to a set number of "shares" that that user's "Resource group" have had allocated to them. =20 Cheers, Brett. =20 --=20 -- Brett Davidson Systems Engineer -- Net24 Limited Web: www.net24.co.nz =20 Phone: 0800 5000 24 | DDI: +64 3 962 9511 -- // domain names / email hosting / web hosting=20 // our reputation for reliability precedes us =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 04:32:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396E516D5F7 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71B413C494 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1S4EcGL099953; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:14:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:14:37 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20070227223615.GD65301@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20070227225950.T710@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20070227212419.GA65273@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45E4A753.2020508@mac.com> <20070227223615.GD65301@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "Peter A. Giessel" Subject: Re: Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:32:05 -0000 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 12:49:07PM -0900, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > >> On 2007/02/27 12:24, Jerry seems to have typed: >>> Am I missing something, or is this now just a standard part of >>> the base? I rummaged through the Release notes and didn't >>> see anything mentioned. >> >> Did you try the handbook? >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu-lbc-install.html > > Maybe I didn't ask my question well. What I meant to ask is - is this > a change that I missed somewhere. I used to get asked during the > installation process for a yes/no and I did not see it this time. You are very diplomatic. Last time I ran sysinstall - installing a new system about a month ago, in late January 2007 - it *did* ask me the Linux question. This was probably from the 6.1R CD set. > I think that got some runtime libraries installed along with the > linux_enable="YES" plunked in the rc.conf for me. Did you run sysinstall after installing a working system, or was this a new install on bare hardware? > I am aware that I can do it myself later - say I had said no during > sysinstall or whatever. Not everyone bothers to read your entire message throughly. Been there. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 04:54:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C038616DA4D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matkins@berkeley.edu) Received: from smtp-out1.berkeley.edu (smtp-out1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAF413C48D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matkins@berkeley.edu) Received: from [71.198.174.193] (helo=[192.168.2.100]) by fe6.calmail with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.65) (auth plain:matkins@berkeley.edu) (envelope-from ) id 1HMGb5-00040r-L7 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:39:23 -0800 Message-ID: <45E5072F.5010805@berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:38:07 -0800 From: MAtkins User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Marketing & Recruiting Opportunity at UC Berkeley X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:54:45 -0000 Hi, I am writing you today to inform you of an opportunity in which your company can share and market its products to college students here at UC Berkeley. I represent the Computer Science and Business Association; we are currently planning our annual Technology Exposition, to be held on March 15th from 11-4, and were hoping that your company might be interested in participating. Modeled after the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, the Technology Exposition allows small and large firms alike to share their latest products, from computers to video games, with students and faculty at UC Berkeley. Last year, several thousand visited the event; participants include such notable firms as Adobe, Microsoft and Dell. The event consists of self-governed booths similar to those found at Comdex and the CES. At your booth, you may display technologies, offer promotions, present videos and/or conduct surveys and market research. We would like to focus on featuring new consumer products and technologies for the university-level target audience. However, we also recommend companies to present brochures, placards or presentations on relevant topics. Additionally, many firms find it worthwhile to use the Technology Exposition as a means of recruiting future employees. This year's Technology Exposition will be held on Thursday, March 15, 2007, from 11 am - 4 pm. Companies will be provided with 2 tables, electricity, a parking space, lunch and custodial services. The registration fee for this event is $400; the registration deadline is next Wednesday, March 7, 2007. For each additional parking space and company representative beyond two, there will be an added charge of $25 and $20, respectively. If your company is interested in taking advantage of this opportunity and participating in this year's Technology Exposition, please inform me as soon as possible so that I may provide you with the necessary paperwork for you to meet the March 7 deadline. Also, feel free to ask me any questions you may have regarding this event, CSBA, etc. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Regards, Matthew Atkins Technology Exposition Committee Computer Science and Business Association University of California, Berkeley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 04:55:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0A616D5F7 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F07813C4B2 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF101F103F; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:55:20 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: jQanZIDQCGwR+OD+HFwWffaw5GMgIBS8YyeJGkUasxpS 1172638519 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94369A8EF; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:55:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> <20070227053833.GA26327@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <04CF5010-12BB-4E55-BA95-98BCF121625B@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:55:09 -0600 To: Mikel King X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:55:20 -0000 On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:31 AM, Mikel King wrote: > I know this is a little bit of a tangent, but does anyone have a > good comprehensive command list, for testing an IMAP server via > telnet? The UW IMAP tool kit contains a number of scriptable command lines tools for talking to imap servers. Maybe something in there will help. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 05:26:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424DC16DDD6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vision2020-bounces@moscow.com) Received: from trumpet.fsr.net (trumpet.fsr.net [64.126.132.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA4B13C461 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vision2020-bounces@moscow.com) Received: from trumpet.fsr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1S4k2ld074804 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:46:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vision2020-bounces@moscow.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:45:54 -0800 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: vision2020@moscow.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com Errors-To: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com Subject: Your message to Vision2020 awaits moderator approval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:26:46 -0000 Your mail to 'Vision2020' with the subject Delivery reports about your e-mail Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. 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If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/confirm/vision2020/efb4a37b22713701e69682fe5d5d2f0597012846 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 05:53:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6D916E735 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FC613C461 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.177]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JE5004SESC4IYC0@l-daemon> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:52:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JE50092VSC42GG1@pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:52:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from s01060014bf5ee711.vs.shawcable.net ([70.71.7.164]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JE500L9VS7DMWW0@l-daemon> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:50:01 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:50:15 -0800 From: Andriy Babiy To: FreeBSD-questions Message-id: <200702272150.15357.ABabiy@shaw.ca> Organization: home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: Subject: flashplugin on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:53:17 -0000 Hi all. Simple question: ============= # make install clean ===> linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_7 is only for i386, and you are running amd64.. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. ============= Is there another way to get it working on amd64? I checked the plugin for Konqueror, but it still needs the pluginwrapper, which is distributed in a binary form for i386 platform. Thanks to everyone in advance! Andriy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 06:22:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5753516ECBE for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atilla@kilim.net.tr) Received: from turuncu.kilim.com.tr (turuncu.kilim.com.tr [88.248.237.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA7113C467 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atilla@kilim.net.tr) Received: from morcivert ([81.214.131.197]) by turuncu.kilim.com.tr (KilimNet Eposta Sunucu) with ASMTP id BLG38309 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:08:21 +0200 Message-ID: <00e501c75afe$de4511d0$0300000a@morcivert> From: "Atilla Gosterisli" To: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:08:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ports after upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Atilla Gosterisli List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:22:01 -0000 Please help, After perl upgrade 5.8 my apache didn't start giving = "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libexpat.so.4" not found" = error=20 and couldn't make install for apache I upgrade the all ports with cvsup=20 After successfull upgrade, ports are not working I can not make index = with "make index" either. "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2292: warning: String comparison = operator should be either =3D=3D or !=3D "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2292: warning: String comparison = operator should be either =3D=3D or !=3D "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2292: Malformed conditional = (((${OSVERSION} < 504105 || (${OSVERSION} >=3D 600000 && ${OSVERSION} < = 600103) || (${OSVERSION} >=3D 700000 && ${OSVERSION} < 700012)) && = ${PKGORIGIN} !=3D "ports-mgmt/pkg_install") || = exists(${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg_info)) "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2293: warning: String comparison = operator should be either =3D=3D or !=3D "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2293: warning: String comparison = operator should be either =3D=3D or !=3D "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2293: Malformed conditional = ((${OSVERSION} < 504105 || (${OSVERSION} >=3D 600000 && ${OSVERSION} < = 600103) || (${OSVERSION} >=3D 700000 && ${OSVERSION} < 700012)) && = ${PKGORIGIN} !=3D "ports-mgmt/pkg_install") "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2308: if-less else "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2308: Need an operator "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2322: if-less endif "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2322: Need an operator "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5987: if-less endif "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5987: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue =3D=3D=3D> accessibility/at-poke failed *** Error code 1 2 errors From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 07:27:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B34816A404 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8391113C4B8 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1S6qEDZ063192; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:52:14 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E52699.3050902@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:52:09 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spellberg_robert References: <45E4B495.8000503@emailrob.com> In-Reply-To: <45E4B495.8000503@emailrob.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig72E676F8BDED6A2775522885" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:52:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90/2671/Wed Feb 28 04:27:19 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why can't i turn off fast_time? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:27:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig72E676F8BDED6A2775522885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable spellberg_robert wrote: > greetings, all --- >=20 > as long as folks are paying attention to > this whole time zone foolishness > foisted on us by congress > [ as if they don't have --real-- work to do; but, i digress ], > it seems to be a good time to inquire about my pet peeve. >=20 > please note: > this is the --one-- thing about freebsd > that --really--, and i mean --really--, hacks me off. >=20 > i have yet to figure out > how to turn off the warm_weather fast_time bug^h^h^hfeature. >=20 > i am outside chicago, so i am six hours earlier than london. >=20 cd /etc cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT+6 localtime Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig72E676F8BDED6A2775522885 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF5Sae8Mjk52CukIwRCDaTAJ0bQQpqSW4C7QY6EcJxTsvhB8t1FwCdHtnq uEOc0nzeFkh1FCsS6PF2Kh4= =msDY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig72E676F8BDED6A2775522885-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 07:29:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F67E16A404 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgordeev@dir.bg) Received: from dir.bg (mail.dir.bg [194.145.63.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE3A13C46B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgordeev@dir.bg) Received: from [89.190.198.138] (account jgordeev HELO [10.102.9.50]) by dir.bg (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 48290700 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:29:46 +0200 Message-ID: <45E52EFE.9000301@dir.bg> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:27:58 +0200 From: Jordan Gordeev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20070109 X-Accept-Language: bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070228035543.GA77041@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070228035543.GA77041@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:29:48 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > I'm not sure whether this just in Ubuntu or in the Gnome desktop > or what, but for days, when I type mail in vi in mutt, sometimes > I get a "^?" when I hit the backspace. ^H still works to back up > and correct my typos, but that's lots more work that what my > fingers are accustomed to. It may be when I'm ssh'd across > servers. I thought I'd ask here before I dig into this. I think > a new xterm was recently updated in ports; not sure if tat is a > factor or not. > > xev understands that the b'space key is a backspace and tells me > the keycode. Should I just us xmodmaprc to fix this? thanks > for any clues!! > > gary > > > See stty(1) and termios(4). You should modify the erase or erase2 values. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 08:40:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9284616A403 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E87013C471 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [66.180.132.238] (unknown [66.180.132.238]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F2D5C1F; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:03:13 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <45E4C6C4.8050400@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:03:16 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060417 FreeBSD/i386 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry , questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:40:26 -0000 Aloha Jerry, I installed FreeBSD 7.* recently and I recall I didnt select Linux. But when I wanted to load Linux Mozilla Browser so I wouldnt have a hassle with flash it added all the necessary components. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 09:10:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753CD16A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from silencer@free-4ever.net) Received: from orthosie.free-4ever.net (orthosie.free-4ever.net [88.191.27.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD1813C4BC for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from silencer@free-4ever.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by orthosie.free-4ever.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E531CA98 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:10:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at free-4ever.net Received: from orthosie.free-4ever.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (orthosie.free-4ever.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4DZUMGo4JRDM for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:10:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.48.187] (unknown [83.145.94.46]) (Authenticated sender: silencer@free-4ever.net) by orthosie.free-4ever.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB22B1BB51 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:10:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E54710.3060602@free-4ever.net> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:10:40 +0100 From: Guillaume User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions References: <200702272150.15357.ABabiy@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <200702272150.15357.ABabiy@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: flashplugin on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:10:45 -0000 Andriy Babiy a écrit : > Hi all. > Simple question: > > ============= > # make install clean > ===> linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_7 is only for i386, and you are running > amd64.. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. > > ============= > > Is there another way to get it working on amd64? I checked the plugin for > Konqueror, but it still needs the pluginwrapper, which is distributed in a > binary form for i386 platform. > Thanks to everyone in advance! > > Andriy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, Adobe does not provide any flash plugin for AMD64 arch ! :-( That's the problem... When running Linux, you have to install a i386 browser in your AMD64 Linux then install the flash plugin for this browser. Regards Guillaume -- Guillaume E-mail: silencer__free-4ever__net Blog: http://guillaume.free-4ever.net ---- Site: http://www.free-4ever.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 09:52:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD0B16A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D88113C428 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [192.168.1.10]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EB228F82D; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:21:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: spellberg_robert In-Reply-To: <45E4B495.8000503@emailrob.com> Message-ID: <20070228091415.D1689@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> References: <45E4B495.8000503@emailrob.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why can't i turn off fast_time? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:52:57 -0000 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, spellberg_robert wrote: > greetings, all --- > > all i want is > to be able to set my boxes to utc, with no fast_time, and > to have my apps and all of the other apps agree on what the clock says, > at --all-- times. The FreeBSD servers here are all UTC. To do this, all I did was made sure the BIOS clock was set to UTC and move the file /etc/localtime to /root (or somewhere outside /etc). At this time, the server doesn't use the localtime binary and defaults to UTC. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 10:12:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269C116A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx2.netclusive.de (mx2.netclusive.de [89.110.132.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECA213C491 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdc02.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.220.2]) by mx2.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F762600DF for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:12:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id BB57B15213; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:12:21 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:12:21 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <2504.192.168.50.14.1172270800.squirrel@webmail.justnosweat.net> <20070227005238.GL70738@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20070226195720.K16785@wonkity.com> <20070227032628.GA20631@ayn.mi.celestial.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172657541 80588 192.168.100.11 (28 Feb 2007 10:12:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:12:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:12:25 -0000 On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:26:28 -0800 Bill Campbell wrote: >>Test Messages >>The lists freebsd-test, ..., ... have been created for test messages. >>Please use only these test lists for test messages. >>Do not send test messages to any of the normal lists. > If you do send test messages, at least put some humour in them :-). It would once again appear that common sense isn't all that common... Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 10:14:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F5316A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morfiin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537F813C4A5 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morfiin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so61691ana for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:14:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eCYlSxbz+YQp7OiIbKcMac04pERQlXN4q9uy3LXUu7ZHCCX6husKaNey33D+hkUlZ4n2mGdjva/tKbPN0Tv9AWuzoQWgbLr4odNDfSjUPPuUnzQlwB8XfqeTwyWlH/+8QlfUEHUTEbMUYnsHuU83c4tldv+PDhfTu2iiUL8mbro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cwBAXtLlAA1lIA0wG+asqyVuPRX0BbcXjhnu28ZxsxbG9/dIC490tcEzqgvYba2nmT6AjXY/eF6pIFj/2LAylqBUoXeih4YS3uwN1RWTTtVcpTwNwCYRuga5yo112AQpnFFof944Mvvyz0NbLfcqDKSf0aFDt7FA10L9qjDI/Tg= Received: by 10.114.135.1 with SMTP id i1mr2908990wad.1172656134393; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.153.1 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:48:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:48:54 +0200 From: "t nagu tundmatu" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: unlisted camera in gtkam? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:14:08 -0000 Hello to all, I have a problem with gtkam =96 my new camera (Pentax K10D) is not supporte= d. I now got it listed in the menu but trying to 'add a new camera' gives a message 'could not initialize the camera.' Is there any trick I'm missing o= r is there maybe another program I can use (with the support of this camera) or maybe a third option? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 10:33:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1755916A405 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx3.netclusive.de (mx3.netclusive.de [89.110.132.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDE613C4B5 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdc02.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.220.2]) by mx3.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59672604205 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:32:58 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 76FDC15213; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:32:57 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:32:57 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 42 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172658777 80588 192.168.100.11 (28 Feb 2007 10:32:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:32:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: compiling ports with more than one job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:33:00 -0000 Good morning[1], folks! I am currently setting up a Sun U60 with FreeBSD. A few amount of apps will be installed on it, when I'm through with it. And that is where it gets a little frustrating. The packages for SPARC64 aren't really up to date. That is why using them isn't really an option. Besides, some programs actually get a real boost if they are compiled with an -mcpu flag, which probably isn't set when the packages are compiled. So, I'm down to installing them over the ports collection. That isn't bad in itself. But even a U60 isn't really a fast machine and if you compile bigger collections (like x.org, kde, firefox etc.) you can watch yourself aging while the machine is at it. It would be a great help if I could really use both CPUs in this machine. But somehow that doesn't work. I have observed two things so far (in general): Some ports (like mc) have a menu for choosing the compile options. If I try to make one of those with more than one job (make -j 2) I can't hit any of the boxes on the list of options or even hit the "ok" button. It would seem that make went on to the next job without actually waiting for the input. The same background but with a slightly different effect is also true for ports without a menu. I couldn't make xorg with more than one job because make just ran on without waiting for the required things to be there and stopped with a "no such file or directory". That is quite a drag as on UltraSPARC II CPUs compiling isn't much fun even if you use all the CPU-power there is. Normally you'd think that a meta-port like xorg just hast to be compiled step by step. However, a far more complex system (make -j 4 buildworld) works just fine. Am I too thick to get the point here or is it really true that the ports in general will only compile correctly one job at a time? Regards Chris [1] It is where I live. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 10:36:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1891716A403 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd.mailinglisten@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A416613C4AA for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd.mailinglisten@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so76290ugh for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:36:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Uq+8Djjd0032Wq7Af9CoBzhzgS9tfNDTG88kph+xNghvyi7c82/HiwNRhN1P0gXD5YOn3XuJkH7P8GAa4z9G4L16EjvG4VY3lx+c/GGarAqVOIhKxIDuktRkUmUNSTmSFlzg/RjVpB2/vz4xG3pnS/NQPdyH3JmKLOzrwCOm+U0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B9ZERX2rkGQfJvkAnQ+JQ21Fotm9YN/+J4MQQsaGKGnI40qGA/VfWzOUd7/h59cVLhnvs4cv1ogfpWS9GKFnAK14l13lgY9QJsCURY+WkErXt8vUsJvpuKlq9LQ1mI+i5rx/yChdHhWerCpGMmOFeVM6cE+jACdjgybavH1jJJU= Received: by 10.67.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr357551ugl.1172657293599; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.180? ( [89.247.222.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y1sm296317uge.2007.02.28.02.08.11; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:08:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E5548A.1000908@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:08:10 +0100 From: Marco Hafke User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00e501c75afe$de4511d0$0300000a@morcivert> In-Reply-To: <00e501c75afe$de4511d0$0300000a@morcivert> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports after upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:36:39 -0000 Hello, which version og FreeBSD do you use? Some hints: 1. Instaed of "make index" you can use "make fetchindex" which is much more faster. 2. You should try to use portsnap instead of cvsup which is in the base since 6.2. It works pretty finde. 3. Your problem looks like a portupgrade mistake. I think you better should delete your whole portstree and your portsdb and build try again to fix your problems So do # rm -r /usr/ports # mkdir /usr/ports After that do cvsup, csup or portsnap to get the latest portstree. Then use the latest portupgrade. /usr/ports/UPDATING says: "20070102: AFFECTS: users of sysutils/portupgrade AUTHOR: sem@FreeBSD.org If you have a problem with upgrading the tools from version 2.2.1 and less, remove the package with pkg_delete portupgrade\* command and reinstall it from scratch. Remove /usr/ports/INDEX*.db and run portsdb -u." After upgrading portupgrade you should rebuild apache with something like that: # portupgrade -rRf apache After that apache should work proper. Good luck! Marco Atilla Gosterisli schrieb: > Please help, > > After perl upgrade 5.8 my apache didn't start giving "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libexpat.so.4" not found" error > and couldn't make install for apache I upgrade the all ports with cvsup > After successfull upgrade, ports are not working I can not make index with "make index" either. > > > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2292: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2292: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2292: Malformed conditional (((${OSVERSION} < 504105 || (${OSVERSION} >= 600000 && ${OSVERSION} < 600103) || (${OSVERSION} >= 700000 && ${OSVERSION} < 700012)) && ${PKGORIGIN} != "ports-mgmt/pkg_install") || exists(${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg_info)) > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2293: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2293: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2293: Malformed conditional ((${OSVERSION} < 504105 || (${OSVERSION} >= 600000 && ${OSVERSION} < 600103) || (${OSVERSION} >= 700000 && ${OSVERSION} < 700012)) && ${PKGORIGIN} != "ports-mgmt/pkg_install") > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2308: if-less else > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2308: Need an operator > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2322: if-less endif > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2322: Need an operator > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5987: if-less endif > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5987: Need an operator > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > ===> accessibility/at-poke failed > *** Error code 1 > 2 errors > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 11:05:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C678F16A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onlyopensource@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B8313C4A5 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onlyopensource@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so494980nfc for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:05:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=EP5Q/QAIOE5qyut/4awB2vCj6s3r4nEVVeyMLtDuu58Rjb7c3XoCMnKgvaC3+0YZepzXo8tYawY71fPqFMVoXD6jlyYrE/6wfpWfY1WeZG9ctyt2y4zaGD88eBWtBe7ylnPX3mZGxQSq/dDtVIUdAYYq4LOtDDHTSdtSl3f4eSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Wn5XYHiBkA47kd2xOKPHMlIzLYNTnfd1wyvzcQXfmjOG/QO/RUpNITJLv/sNWjNfaAHrXrOhJHMPlmJe8wfm/mhLFZBz2MoKCWWoIgpSUJ6KD0JvgPaw+m/OM73l6R18AiKIhub63DJ0Zyhqp5Y0nGDttxESy4B5bZDaX4Eevsk= Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr72992buc.1172659061492; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.151.17 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:37:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:07:41 +0530 From: "Only OpenSource" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: does FreeBSD support ms chapv2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:05:49 -0000 Hi, Does FreeBSD support ms chapv2 protocol ? I am trying to setup a FreeBSD server as a PPP server that can authenticate a Windows client using MS CHAP v2. Do I need to patch any files on the FreeBSD 6.2 RC1 to make it work ? If yes, please let me know which files. thanks in advance. -- J. oo@@oo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 11:09:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D8B16A403 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376D813C471 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1SB7Icl047523; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:09:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1SB2URr046739; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:02:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:02:30 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Don Munyak In-Reply-To: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070228120136.C46523@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pkg_add problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:09:03 -0000 there is no such package bash. there's only bash-someversionofbashport for example bash-3.1.16 get a look at tp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/ to see what version of bash is available On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Don Munyak wrote: > I am having trouble using pkg_add -r . I keep getting > the following error. > --------------------------------------- > p0069# pkg_add -r bash > Error: FTP Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/bash.tbz: > Network is unreachable > pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/bash.tbz' > by URL > p0069# > --------------------- > > I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but > - I have rebuilt the kernel successfully > --------------------- > p0069# uname -a > FreeBSD p0069.bm.local 6.1-RELEASE-p12 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p12 #0: Thu > Feb 8 13:55:26 EST 2007 > xxxx@p0069.bm.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WEBSERVER i386 > -------------------- > - And there is no ports tree installed.. ie /usr/ports does not exist. > - I can ping ftp.freebsd.org > - I can also ftp>open ftp.freebsd.org > > Any thoughts on trouble shooting this would be appreciated. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 11:57:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E98616A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35207.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35207.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAF2B13C48D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 94418 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2007 11:57:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Xc9OQIfiB9nHZcUiWyDoLsIshytMB2kF+WHEvREhU9pCMTH40S5qSPO9gkZp93ruUjalCyYbtAVygQ441meQfq2Py7qqGr7iH25SW66fIiOCC3IGIP7+m0A6PYHkn8xt93559w5rlWQwEjCJzBuwBbqIrokeIV+ZkBPjUxhXM3k=; X-YMail-OSG: WlIrpmwVM1m4TqOIuptvTrKlWIjCm9CyibOHNhFeSb3JB9._KidmhVnEXY0EPkvCyDwM5wpW4dk5YfqtF6jp.k0W2QqWLG8sE3r6fluxdEJGwgYw5.ljx5zoAJNsGtl4tRqeaAhlepQwLwE- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35207.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:57:08 CST Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:57:08 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: Armin Pirkovitsch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45E43E70.9090304@inode.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <359469.93868.qm@web35207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:57:09 -0000 Hi Armin, Tks for your advice. --- Armin Pirkovitsch wrote: > Stephen Liu wrote: > > Hi Jonathan Chen, > > > > Tks for your advice. > > > > > >> If you're going to use "startx" you will need a ${HOME}/.xinitrc > with > >> the following contents: > >> > >> #/bin/sh > >> startkde > >> > >> Make sure the file is 755 permissions. This will start up X with > KDE. > >> I would suggest you configure /etc/ttys to start up KDM instead of > >> using "startx" > > > > Your advice worked here starting KDE. > > > > What I'm trying to do is running; > > > > $ startkde > > will start K desktop > > > > $ gnome-session > > will start Gnome desktop > > This won't work since those are just the windowmanagers - you need an > X > server to start them. > However you could solve it with some small scripts: > > > start-gnome.sh: > ---------------- > #!/bin/sh > rm -f ~/.xinitrc > ln -s ~/.xinitrc_gnome ~/.xinitrc > startx > > ---------------- > ################ > .xinitrc_gnome: > ---------------- > #!/bin/sh > exec /usr/local/bin/gnome-session > > ---------------- > ################ > start-kde.sh: > ---------------- > #!/bin/sh > rm -f ~/.xinitrc > ln -s ~/.xinitrc_kde ~/.xinitrc > startx > > ---------------- > ################ > .xinitrc_gnome: > ---------------- > #!/bin/sh > exec /usr/local/bin/startkde > > ---------------- > > make sure all of these files are executable (chmod 755 ) > the .xinitrc* files have to be in your home directory - > start-gnome.sh > and start-kde.sh in any directory in your PATH (eg. ~/bin if it's > only > for one user) Something strange happened here. If copying "xorg.conf.new" on /etc/X11/ and renaming it as "xorg.conf". I can't start X, the HD only turning. Now I don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I can start KDE (not Gnome). I don't know which "xorg.conf" I am now running. I can toggle resolution to increase font size on browser witn [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[+] B.R. satimis Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 12:07:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DC116A409 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AF013C4A5 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from localhost.168.11.51 ([::1] helo=lists.lc-words.com) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HMNbc-0001pf-Cj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:08:24 +0100 Received: from 192.168.11.11 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) by lists.lc-words.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:08:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <2529.192.168.11.11.1172664504.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <20070228111242.4f5fee0b@localhost> References: <2598.192.168.11.11.1172570647.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <20070228111242.4f5fee0b@localhost> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:08:24 +0100 (CET) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: self-signed certificates in outlook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:07:13 -0000 Hello, Norberto Meijome wrote: >> Following a recent discussion I have a question whether there is a way >> for outlook not to complain when it comes to using self-signed >> certificates? > > Have you tried importing the CA's cert into IE/windows' list of known > and accepted authorities? Yes, no problem now. I tried it previously but used the import method from within IE (which did no good). It turned out that I just had to click the certificate and then install. Anyway, thanks for your message! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 12:12:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2486216A405 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from mx.inode.at (mx16.lb01.inode.at [62.99.145.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DA413C474 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from [85.124.26.15] (port=9271 helo=[192.168.1.11]) by smartmx-16.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HMNfq-00032Y-1Y; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:12:46 +0100 Message-ID: <45E571BD.7070308@inode.at> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:12:45 +0100 From: Armin Pirkovitsch User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Liu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <359469.93868.qm@web35207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <359469.93868.qm@web35207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:12:47 -0000 Stephen Liu wrote: [...] > > Something strange happened here. If copying "xorg.conf.new" on > /etc/X11/ and renaming it as "xorg.conf". I can't start X, the HD only > turning. Now I don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I can start KDE (not > Gnome). I don't know which "xorg.conf" I am now running. just have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log - it will tell you which config file is used > > I can toggle resolution to increase font size on browser witn > [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[+] -- Armin Pirkovitsch a.pirko@inode.at From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 14:27:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEF016A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: from web62301.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62301.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D14213C4A6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 11371 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2007 14:27:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ON48rXHyk6ccES1Cj53eY2c0ROvwIdMZ4YEHNQ+Q61h9b8jYa1PWBRoT6VaB4T2RQR/e0G1iAd//GkoRv/q9FCvmSnlozE6lkr4Nea6BkzqNgLnccJUIK453MjfyjvFiMUWZviEl+6Oq2D2Ov+S3mZZEu9ejLcJ0IuqSE06MMio=; X-YMail-OSG: V8RAZxcVM1miael2tE_y_aO4F3XWuOqxVQi5DdkeP79GnDmNYqOZCINmt.kbQusUOrHle8JhWH4Z7FkS2nHxAhWTKoRfVl30aSsY11ZvbXr98yj_oFdt2A-- Received: from [66.167.220.243] by web62301.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:27:38 PST Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:27:38 -0800 (PST) From: Paulette McGee To: Andriy Babiy , FreeBSD-questions In-Reply-To: <200702272150.15357.ABabiy@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <694125.11364.qm@web62301.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: flashplugin on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:27:39 -0000 --- Andriy Babiy wrote: > Hi all. > Simple question: > > ============= > # make install clean > ===> linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_7 is only for > i386, and you are running > amd64.. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. > > ============= > > Is there another way to get it working on amd64? I > checked the plugin for > Konqueror, but it still needs the pluginwrapper, > which is distributed in a > binary form for i386 platform. > Thanks to everyone in advance! > > Andriy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello Andriy, >From what I remember Flash doesn't run on the 64 bit version of FreeBSD. Regards, Paulette McGee ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 14:34:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2583316A403 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D3613C4A6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1SEYHFp015585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:34:17 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1SEYGWJ024040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:34:17 -0800 Message-ID: <45E592D2.6010003@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:33:54 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070228035543.GA77041@thought.org> <45E52EFE.9000301@dir.bg> In-Reply-To: <45E52EFE.9000301@dir.bg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.28.62434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:34:18 -0000 Jordan Gordeev wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: >> I'm not sure whether this just in Ubuntu or in the Gnome desktop >> or what, but for days, when I type mail in vi in mutt, sometimes >> I get a "^?" when I hit the backspace. ^H still works to back up >> and correct my typos, but that's lots more work that what my >> fingers are accustomed to. It may be when I'm ssh'd across >> servers. I thought I'd ask here before I dig into this. I think >> a new xterm was recently updated in ports; not sure if tat is a >> factor or not. >> >> xev understands that the b'space key is a backspace and tells me >> the keycode. Should I just us xmodmaprc to fix this? thanks >> for any clues!! >> >> gary >> >> >> > See stty(1) and termios(4). You should modify the erase or erase2 values. The terminal settings available from gnome (if you open up an xterm / Gnome terminal shell using the Terminal command under the menu) has various options which do the same thing, without touching the stty and termios values, while accomplishing properly deletion in your terminal window. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 14:41:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B28716A405 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D2313C4A6 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1SEfVZJ018864 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:41:31 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1SEfUMT024365 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:41:31 -0800 Message-ID: <45E59486.3090109@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:41:10 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> <20070226214106.W38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E3ADE7.6080803@u.washington.edu> <20070227145308.R8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070227145308.R8671@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.28.62935 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: [OT] Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:41:32 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> providing data recovery services etc... >>> >>> people are allowed to be stupid. it's natural. no need to worry >> >> Sometimes managing calendars and corporate schedules can be a pain in >> the ass. I don't see how groups like Intel could do it any other way.. > > fortunately it's not my pain :) and i'm not interested in groups like > Intel which naturally support windows and microsoft every place. Can't comment about this too much further than I have, but that statement (believing that Intel uses strictly Windows products) is not 100% correct--they use a lot of open source software and OSes, and they're at more critical points in their IT infrastruture. Windows is there just to help out with some of the more critical planning areas because it's easier than other solutions at solving planning / logisitics related problems and ties in nicely with what they have in place. I'm not saying that I love Outlook, but I wouldn't want to do my work there without it.. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 15:04:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E2F16A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF1313C441 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ppp104-55.lns4.adl4.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.44.104.55]) by ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2007 01:34:53 +1030 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,231,1170595800"; d="scan'208"; a="91130163:sNHT22771000" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:34:51 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <5df74baa0702261339w7b2fac38v3e5f9f0dafd90f11@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5df74baa0702261339w7b2fac38v3e5f9f0dafd90f11@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703010134.51955.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Subject: Re: FDISK output question -- OT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:04:55 -0000 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:09 am, DAK GHATIKACHALAM wrote: > Hi Freebsd > > Question about FDISK > > Do you have an idea what does that '+' means in Blocks > columns > > as seen below it is 419425019+ > > Does it signify anything , because for certain disks I do not > see that '+' as the end of blocks? > I believe you are posting to the wrong list. This list is about FreeBSD which is a form of BSD unix -- not Linux. The extraneous '+' is a characteristic of the Linux version of fdisk. I believe it indicates that the indicated 52216 units do not exactly correspond to the 419425019 blocks (but I'm not a Linux expert). I believe there is also an option to show more detail. Switch to expert mode with 'x' before the 'p' enquiry. Malcolm > Thanks > Dak > > [root@kali root]# fdisk /dev/sdk > > The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 52216. > There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than > 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: > 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of > LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs > (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) > > Command (m for help): p > > Disk /dev/sdk: 429.4 GB, 429496729600 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 52216 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sdk1 1 52216 419425019+ 83 Linux > > Command (m for help): From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 15:27:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3793D16A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00BBF13C471 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 72019 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2007 15:27:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=cfoBTCMq9WG3qdPrad2o/MfrJbn2Gb9Th7fGLv05zQvbw1N5gYhEUCKVOSUN35BKC9zYBtIpDp4q/iKMPKR5anLLjHwjI8ca/vsewQbysla/z9qjBehFWpQ2PpnX3rNcuJCg/1NEnK4Hn8j1zb1Z1p7NGCkspPokujgP5Nr4U0Y=; X-YMail-OSG: URPBBgEVM1lWjNitq8ieHWmXnph8Jwc1y.aPGXeN Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:27:27 CST Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:27:27 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45E571BD.7070308@inode.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <150740.71516.qm@web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:27:29 -0000 --- Armin Pirkovitsch wrote: > Stephen Liu wrote: > [...] > > > > Something strange happened here. If copying "xorg.conf.new" on > > /etc/X11/ and renaming it as "xorg.conf". I can't start X, the HD > only > > turning. Now I don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I can start KDE > (not > > Gnome). I don't know which "xorg.conf" I am now running. > > just have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log - it will tell you which > config > file is used Hi Armin, # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep xorg (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) : XkbRules: "xorg" # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep conf Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (EE) Unable to locate/open config file Running "/usr/X11R6/bin/getconfig -X 60900000 -I /etc/X11,/usr/X11R6/etc/X11,/usr/X11R6/lib/modules,/usr/X 11R6/lib/X11/getconfig -v 0x10de -d 0x01df -r 0xa1 -s 0x1043 -b 0x81f3 -c 0x0300" (==) Using default built-in configuration (53 lines) (==) --- Start of built-in configuration --- (==) --- End of built-in configuration --- Using the default mouse configuration. Using the default keyboard configuration. Would it be "getconfig"? Why I'm not allowed to copy /root/xorg.conf.ne /etc/X11/xorg and run xorg.conf there? Unfortunataely xorg.0.log is a big file. I have no idea where to look at the error message on running xorg.conf. Any suggestion? TIA B.R. satimis Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 15:59:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935CB16A46E for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35215.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35215.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C21913C442 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77507 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2007 15:59:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yvOwsTpVa4E50UInOJ9XXRLCArcUl0rWht34G0JfynzfXdKfWSeyaZz7iAMG4MfeCxBUeMb8e+YfEXe3H/QpYlLJN7OcFSrqZU0a6UImM1HhIuv+gy7mCF0aqM4lAEPMlzZrzqtpY09v8YSF7EAA6tvJ4R+6chIOBDB0cfsRaGA=; X-YMail-OSG: TEDX6zkVM1lK4XsY_1no3.RXYgpl0QpMD8FGn4MI.3z_k2fB4blam2vIpHk1YADDz8B1m5UdYJJfVyU5jS1K0W30MTh7jzkScaR2jnwPNs1C0C__A9Jnjys7k2ujSHDlqyiFDnuBFUMhhJI- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35215.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:59:11 CST Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:59:11 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <150740.71516.qm@web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <891374.77352.qm@web35215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE and Gnome - further test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:59:12 -0000 --- Stephen Liu wrote: > > --- Armin Pirkovitsch wrote: > > > Stephen Liu wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > Something strange happened here. If copying "xorg.conf.new" on > > > /etc/X11/ and renaming it as "xorg.conf". I can't start X, the HD > > only > > > turning. Now I don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I can start KDE > > (not > > > Gnome). I don't know which "xorg.conf" I am now running. > > > > just have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log - it will tell you which > > config > > file is used > > Hi Armin, > > > # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep xorg > (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > (**) : XkbRules: "xorg" > > > # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep conf > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (EE) Unable to locate/open config file > Running "/usr/X11R6/bin/getconfig -X 60900000 -I > /etc/X11,/usr/X11R6/etc/X11,/usr/X11R6/lib/modules,/usr/X > > 11R6/lib/X11/getconfig -v 0x10de -d 0x01df -r 0xa1 -s 0x1043 > -b 0x81f3 -c 0x0300" > (==) Using default built-in configuration (53 lines) > (==) --- Start of built-in configuration --- > (==) --- End of built-in configuration --- > Using the default mouse configuration. > Using the default keyboard configuration. > > Would it be "getconfig"? Why I'm not allowed to copy > /root/xorg.conf.ne /etc/X11/xorg and run xorg.conf there? > > Unfortunataely xorg.0.log is a big file. I have no idea where to > look > at the error message on running xorg.conf. Any suggestion? TIA > > > B.R. > satimis Hi Armin and folks, I made further test as follow; # cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf Hard reboot X = [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Back Space] exited to runlevel 3 Login : satimis Password: xxx $ startx KDE started with color looking strangely and finally PC hung. Hard reboot and removed xorg.conf # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ..... FreeFontPath:FPE "/usr/XR11R6/lib/X11/Fonts/misc/" refcount is 2. should be 1: fixing * end * Any advice how to fix this problem. TIA B.R. Stephen Liu Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 16:00:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BE216A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B97913C428 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so191521nza for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:00:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kcmtXEocbzWx8ymBaItjuLMrRrqCLrrxjVuTi/jkKiN2SJ1/I1urBUSDpFghvPkUnoKwHq957xZFWOaWehRI7ghDl6WU+zH+jGcfj3OnINScCKJJt9rF2XP2/zuhFGrvJ2QEq/fb1qRGW/1zj9aC6lC3F3SOroasfrM21oJPsnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=dZeO34jBLJe8xnk1m4F9ISr3scDdqif9Y4h+cGqXmTvYsl/lmDu7a1pKbAIezdlIAimb4O9iAxz8+wdDFFduybGsKv7capfRb+u5epZa8iFcAifHh09hkXHyePEgW3jtmuJNDDqqjDek1WUUvKniJyMFbjpQMivpj8/hzTSj+sc= Received: by 10.64.150.18 with SMTP id x18mr1184812qbd.1172678415847; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.7 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:00:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60702280800s2972ed82q1c540e6d8daf57a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:00:15 -0500 From: "David Robillard" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: patrick Subject: Re: mysql50-server on FreeBSD 6.2 w/ LINUX_THREADS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:00:17 -0000 > Is it still advisable to build the mysql50-server on FreeBSD 6.2 using > the LINUX_THREADS option? I'm using the SMP kernel on an older dual > 1.0GHz Pentium III. This page > suggests that the libthr library in FreeBSD 6.x is optimized for MySQL > and perhaps better than using linuxthreads. > > Any thoughts? Hi Patrick, We're running several MySQL databases on FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2 RELEASE and we don't use LINUX_THREADS. So far so good as they say. Concerning MySQL performance on FreeBSD, I recently saw this article which could be of interest to you: Linux vs FreeBSD using mysql and sysbench http://jeffr-tech.livejournal.com/5705.html Aside from a potential holy flame war from FreeBSD vs Linux, this article does present you with an interesting my.cnf configuration file. Maybe that could interest you? Have fun, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 16:03:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B139116A404 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6083B13C48D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1SG3aHo005358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:03:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l1SG3amC005338; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:03:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:03:36 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Only OpenSource Message-ID: <20070228160336.GH71962@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does FreeBSD support ms chapv2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:03:53 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 28), Only OpenSource said: > Does FreeBSD support ms chapv2 protocol ? > > I am trying to setup a FreeBSD server as a PPP server > that can authenticate a Windows client using MS CHAP v2. >From the ppp manpge: MSChapV2|chap81 Default: Disabled and Accepted. It is very similar to standard CHAP (type 0x05) except that it issues challenges of a fixed 16 bytes in length and uses a combination of MD4, SHA-1 and DES to encrypt the challenge rather than using the standard MD5 mecha- nism. So I would guess that it is supported. All you would have to do is add "enable mschapv2" to your ppp.conf file. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 16:13:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BA016A403 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84E213C467 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so195012nza for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:13:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J0+qMJEex7NLXAZifeN/HkqHrsGZ8GzPkNEFRTU1ipBdMdx/jedlwiL1Io++0/W6VyM4UB7VK1xRDKs11PhRGyy9f159lAwYHf4joppOC2wBQkbZEDCMn6pi2tm8V8bVj1JMuM58Ak8OeDFR/td4U2A2bSnvKRWteQPG4vtLH10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UeF7Ejc4b+S5pTfgqe2Vf/4p7B1MAljLsCyRbG7AdZjU62yVgpFW30Eejkf8jMi2XEOVZzg2m7CdXv0HAJNqmu/To4LIxg5m/vNBQ0J9QZIbM1A+qNNdAzSG9sxGx6bBBhvWJYaLHwgVUM9dm/vpjutrXO4u/VRTwysAmggfnyE= Received: by 10.65.121.9 with SMTP id y9mr1229851qbm.1172679188040; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.7 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:13:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60702280813q288f646bt8fb8fca886716ee4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:13:08 -0500 From: "David Robillard" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <45E53C8F.8090100@placidpublishing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <226ae0c60702151024u6c71d50bn72d54631c33ed32@mail.gmail.com> <45D4D40F.2060703@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702151407t56632fafoa3eabe714b567d1b@mail.gmail.com> <45D4DF88.1020009@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702151454x4b32e698hb89b51005b6938e@mail.gmail.com> <45D5FD5B.6030605@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702161146i6ce6b54ayab9e279c9cf28d1@mail.gmail.com> <45E53C8F.8090100@placidpublishing.net> Cc: peter@placidpublishing.net Subject: Re: Apache Rotate Logs and Log Rotate. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:13:09 -0000 On 2/28/07, Peter Pluta wrote: > Hey David, quick question. I found this while doing a bit of reading. Is > it safe for Syslogd to send a kill -HUP to apache? This site is > extremely high traffic and I wouldn't want it cutting off users during > the HUP to rotate the logs. I'm running Apache 2.2.4 and FreeBSD 6.2 > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/startstop.php > > It looks like Apachectl graceful is the only safe way to restart apache. Hi Peter, The article you're refering to is for Apache 1.3.x and you seem to be running 2.2.x Should you want, you can get more detailed information on how Apache 1.3.x handles kill signals here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/stopping.html It's basically the same for Apache 2.2.x which is covered here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/stopping.html Having said that, if your site is really busy, then consider changing the kill signal in newsyslog.conf from -HUP to -USR1 which will gracefully ask running httpd processes to restart once they have finished talking to their user. As the article says: ''The USR1 signal causes the parent process to advise the children to exit after their current request (or to exit immediately if they're not serving anything). The parent re-reads its configuration files and re-opens its log files. As each child dies off the parent replaces it with a child from the new generation of the configuration, which begins serving new requests immediately.'' Check the man page for newsyslog.conf(5) at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=newsyslog.conf&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASE&format=html The last field in newsyslog.conf is where you setup which signal is used. Here's what the man page says: signal_number This optional field specifies the signal number that will be sent to the daemon process (or to all processes in a process group, if the U flag was specified). If this field is not present, then a SIGHUP signal will be sent. Cheers, David > David Robillard wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > > >> Someone told me that I need to gracefully restart apache for it to make > >> a new log; and then wait till Apache's memory buffer is emptied to disk > >> before gziping or bziping the files. > > > > Well, I've never had to do this. Newsyslog send a `kill -HUP` to > > apache's master PID. Which causes Apache to reopen it's log files. For > > me anyway, the newsyslog configuration I gave you never caused me any > > problem at all. Keep in mind that you do have to send Apache a -HUP > > signal, otherwise you'll lose logs when newsyslog rotates them. > > > >> Also, is it wise to have logs for each user in their home directory? > >> Someone told me this is a serious security issue; but I can't see why > >> it would be. > > > > It is a security issue if the user has the rights to login to you > > machine. If he dosen't, then you shouldn't be worried. > > > > But I just don't take that chance and make all of my Apache log files > > under /usr/local/www/virtalhost1/logs which is not accessible from > > Apache itself because I setup my DocumentRoot under > > /usr/local/www/virtalhost1/public_html. This way, I know for sure that > > everything for virtualhost1 is under a single directory, but that my > > logs can't be seen by anyone via Apache. > > > > David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 16:13:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3349516A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F150B13C474 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1SGApJD077138; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:10:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l1SGAoUH077137; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:10:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:10:50 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Chris Hill Message-ID: <20070228161050.GB77005@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070227212419.GA65273@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45E4A753.2020508@mac.com> <20070227223615.GD65301@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070227225950.T710@tripel.monochrome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070227225950.T710@tripel.monochrome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "Peter A. Giessel" Subject: Re: Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:13:25 -0000 On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:14:37PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 12:49:07PM -0900, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > > > >>On 2007/02/27 12:24, Jerry seems to have typed: > >>>Am I missing something, or is this now just a standard part of > >>>the base? I rummaged through the Release notes and didn't > >>>see anything mentioned. > >> > >>Did you try the handbook? > >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu-lbc-install.html > > > >Maybe I didn't ask my question well. What I meant to ask is - is this > >a change that I missed somewhere. I used to get asked during the > >installation process for a yes/no and I did not see it this time. > > You are very diplomatic. > > Last time I ran sysinstall - installing a new system about a month ago, > in late January 2007 - it *did* ask me the Linux question. This was > probably from the 6.1R CD set. Yes, I think I remember seeing it during a 6.1 install, though the last one of those I did was several months ago. > > I think that got some runtime libraries installed along with the > >linux_enable="YES" plunked in the rc.conf for me. > > Did you run sysinstall after installing a working system, or was this a > new install on bare hardware? Well, sort of bare hardware. I wiped out and overwrote a Suse installation that came with the machine (a Dell 2950 with Perc I raid). > >I am aware that I can do it myself later - say I had said no during > >sysinstall or whatever. > > Not everyone bothers to read your entire message throughly. Been there. Yah, I miss parts of people's posts in the rush to respond often enough too. ////jerry > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 16:25:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB2116A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB4213C4C2 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so272688wri for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:25:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ZtmvwcoHm9nJxBGGOXKCu0O3EVbiUo01ix3QKp7woJ7+jugwiKfCtmBfznrBzGFmAPXBy/hR8OKJ8sKI59EWOvBfz3+N3C5GF4AkPepCiy880n9WozORkzFiR7SYumQbRZy7O3u2S2XZf1YvgwptT81COyjmbkrlzeSP3DcCge8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=eNAUBVLcpp3yS3ZHNUfAOF2IYkGSeVMZsIaZ0R5O9GSs+9/PNplZQF6H8MS8XpJaljXQrKitVzwNT6G87BMdXmHls471D5tRn/I8wbB3rJlRVQJwYxSyzXP1JwIVlUMCWPgKPSJuAyqbepttBIsI/CUcWaMsbMbQlTmmgpXRESM= Received: by 10.114.159.1 with SMTP id h1mr743633wae.1172679930701; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.201.2 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:25:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:25:30 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Only OpenSource" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 553ea8a2dfd4b69a Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does FreeBSD support ms chapv2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:25:52 -0000 On 2/28/07, Only OpenSource wrote: > Hi, > > Does FreeBSD support ms chapv2 protocol ? > > I am trying to setup a FreeBSD server as a PPP server > that can authenticate a Windows client using MS CHAP v2. > > Do I need to patch any files on the FreeBSD 6.2 RC1 to make it work ? > If yes, please let me know which files. Take a look at net/mpd4 port. It's a very nice tool for your task. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 16:32:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B877516A473 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arhhook@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A600F13C441 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arhhook@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY121-W15 ([207.46.10.50]) by bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:20:12 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [137.81.113.153] From: Anthony Hook To: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:20:12 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2007 16:20:12.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[52B17310:01C75B54] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD X11 settings in Virtual PC 2007 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:32:13 -0000 I was wondering if anyone has tried to get FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE working with= a desktop environment in Virtual PC 2007? I cannot seem to get the x11 di= splay settings/resolution to 1024*768 on KDE. Does anyone have a solution/= suggestion? =20 Thanks, =20 Anthony _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 16:44:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B31616A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.192.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1915B13C48E for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-67-190-235-215.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[67.190.235.215]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20070228164433m13006bq7fe>; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:44:33 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:44:16 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702281044.16855.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Christian Baer Subject: Re: compiling ports with more than one job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:44:35 -0000 On Wednesday 28 February 2007 04:32, Christian Baer wrote: > Good morning[1], folks! > > I am currently setting up a Sun U60 with FreeBSD. A few amount of > apps will be installed on it, when I'm through with it. And that is > where it gets a little frustrating. > > The packages for SPARC64 aren't really up to date. That is why > using them isn't really an option. Besides, some programs actually > get a real boost if they are compiled with an -mcpu flag, which > probably isn't set when the packages are compiled. So, I'm down to > installing them over the ports collection. > > That isn't bad in itself. But even a U60 isn't really a fast > machine and if you compile bigger collections (like x.org, kde, > firefox etc.) you can watch yourself aging while the machine is at > it. It would be a great help if I could really use both CPUs in > this machine. But somehow that doesn't work. I have observed two > things so far (in general): > > Some ports (like mc) have a menu for choosing the compile options. > If I try to make one of those with more than one job (make -j 2) I > can't hit any of the boxes on the list of options or even hit the > "ok" button. It would seem that make went on to the next job > without actually waiting for the input. > > The same background but with a slightly different effect is also > true for ports without a menu. I couldn't make xorg with more than > one job because make just ran on without waiting for the required > things to be there and stopped with a "no such file or directory". > That is quite a drag as on UltraSPARC II CPUs compiling isn't much > fun even if you use all the CPU-power there is. > > Normally you'd think that a meta-port like xorg just hast to be > compiled step by step. However, a far more complex system (make -j > 4 buildworld) works just fine. > > Am I too thick to get the point here or is it really true that the > ports in general will only compile correctly one job at a time? > > Regards > Chris The issues with the config screen sounds like a bug, but one that is unlikely to get fixed any time soon. You can avoid it by doing a make config-recursive before building the port, but you're still going to run in to the problem that ports are not guarranteed to by -jX safe, some will work, some won't, and there's no way of knowing without trying it. In general you can save yourself a lot of headaches by not trying in the first place. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 17:10:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C9416A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE37E13C428 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so123989ika for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:10:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=V8ZRxPFATWVcmrPtqwz2mdqbVJkmwT9F3ltp2ZHbHAiwBFBUQTFalegaRHi54RI2faYjcXJaoAfUN2+Oj8d8mOQdrtkxtxbG1ib1COaGsk6w5pWLfdIMDChA22GJcbylbOJj37ZNhJ6Nrirlb0tnk+ZvQ0+KzdoVI9NtH7kZ4fE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=JOTxKke25qDRlE14CdSnqqoxkwiqgZ3IPNDNGHdJNzXzem+w/e9CfZFoYMg80HTVL4CF9FH2AlblEcr/G4WaD8ml6xxcK8K0s/IPaoVPiKzyurOpDsxGhbm2hyWF2r9bVHfzWhptKU0W2Dp06JSM/hz1jGB+xFvCcbkLdeIfuqA= Received: by 10.114.137.2 with SMTP id k2mr226117wad.1172682650409; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.203.7 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:10:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <92bcbda50702280910g12a531d7ve7062e8f4e25261f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:10:50 +0100 From: "n j" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: IPFW rule syntax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:10:57 -0000 Hello, I have observed the following behavior in IPFW (note the asterisks): ipfw add 1000 allow tcp from 10.1.2.3 1111 to 10.3.2.1 *9999* in gets added to the rule list as: 01000 allow tcp from 10.1.2.3 1111 to 10.3.2.1 *dst-port 9999* in? Why does IPFW convert my "9999" to "dst-port 9999" and "1111" doesn't get converted to something like "src-port 1111"? Does someone know a logical explanation for this or is this a halfway done attempt of making the rules more readable? This behavior is not a problem, but older versions of IPFW don't exhibit it, so it was probably added for some reason. Thanks! -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 17:35:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E0E16A407 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFA113C4B5 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D825194F; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:35:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:35:17 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: josh.carroll@psualum.com Subject: Re: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:35:21 -0000 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:55:55 -0800 "Josh Carroll" wrote: > > I am converting from DSL to RoadRunner this week and wondering if > > there is anything special I need to do to my pf.conf for passing > > DHCP into my NIC? > > I think all you'll need is: > > pass in quick on $ext_if proto udp from any port 67 to any port 68 > keep state > When I used DHCP with PF, I found that it just worked without any rules at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 17:39:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD24016A404 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDA213C474 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so197003muf for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:39:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S6CYlcWvfwIAnCFPfglbKjOqva3L7cM7+6RfpqQMb0HrquI2xKH19Y27so/G7iimbHjoaf302dwpMK6I6hLG1YOMlYCOrTOROLaidH9HHq4rEGhFV0ewK+sWgxzgZvGvMTnKSKgAX5TYjoJpFQqR7aWrUEdt0amlb4gw0uYBAaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UkbzBCSVqIOcoE7gx1hD6FvrIWlYM7UK9dfjbIceRapYz5PXF1QLWTSjv9f4brLhn018ZYYSzte/K4sjRY4M4miqRXIx3SXJBC9DUIJSEI/YClNjjy7QZ5j7nsm3j6OFedwEtnhiMh/C6zTZ3lBr0pMUJAEuB4WrghpRk4ePw5g= Received: by 10.82.188.15 with SMTP id l15mr245366buf.1172684373968; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:39:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.163.16 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:39:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0702280939m2121359au139b219721badf6c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:39:33 -0800 From: "Josh Carroll" To: RW In-Reply-To: <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@psualum.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:39:39 -0000 > When I used DHCP with PF, I found that it just worked without any rules > at all. As long as you're allowing packets out with keep state, it may be that it is able to allow the inbound DHCPOFFER after a DHCP REQUEST outbound. The rule I provided may not be necessary, then. Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 17:44:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69FB16A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B46D13C474 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-68-49-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([68.49.149.185] helo=schnarff.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMSqk-000I5S-Mv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:44:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 24599 invoked by uid 67); 28 Feb 2007 17:44:22 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.68 ([192.168.2.68]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:44:21 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 68.49.149.185 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: schnarff Message-ID: <20070228124421.j73ex8x4ow0g0o8k@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:44:21 -0500 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Subject: Re: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:44:23 -0000 Quoting RW : > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:55:55 -0800 > "Josh Carroll" wrote: > >> > I am converting from DSL to RoadRunner this week and wondering if >> > there is anything special I need to do to my pf.conf for passing >> > DHCP into my NIC? >> >> I think all you'll need is: >> >> pass in quick on $ext_if proto udp from any port 67 to any port 68 >> keep state >> > > When I used DHCP with PF, I found that it just worked without any rules > at all. That's been my experience as well (admittedly on OpenBSD, but it's basically the same PF). Remember, your NIC's initialization sequence, which is where the DHCP request will come, happens before PF is enabled, so you're essentially at a "pass all" sort of a state when the request happens. The one thing to keep in mind is that if you're doing, say, NAT for some clients behind the box, you can use a rule like this to deal with any changes in your dynamic IP (which should be extremely rare -- on Comcast I've had one IP change in 1.5 years, and that was because I was down for a significant chunk of time): nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any -> (nfe0) The "(nfe0)" here says "use the IP address of the nfe0 interface, instead of requiring you to specify the address manually. HTH, Alex Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 17:56:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FD816A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC2113C47E for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so223936nza for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:56:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J4uij0Wj98CSk62HkuWX1F14ZfawGTUxf35nZHiy+h3BulUdV1lIuPsiQ/1RizgtBpTf1N0UrkGzsWCVlaBTbqyVjfXwRYJHpKHTtJ6ABc2EFMp6LJW+/lV9AJM7mx7dJ/FnUN/p8W1rSV7ZxL5kVVUFwBJOQY3eVZdWBxHAKRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AWYsKBK9TKf03dkmlq8c/9LIrUTnEhRTA/iDhAxTlrcUDbnYoNVDeevOgKz3xhr6PBEK5YwdQdcO0nbNvZmxlS7ptoIuFKRWaUbpN+vrYvnl+ntlwDwHvPkRCbQE6D6jvliwZheOdXcrTr8rtrKx5Hf/nlLmheBwHTU8ggYcFvE= Received: by 10.65.23.7 with SMTP id a7mr1506384qbj.1172685377295; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.7 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:56:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60702280956l5b24a76bvbf6972cc33724ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:56:17 -0500 From: "David Robillard" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <934FF44E-39F5-410B-B235-5F5709B4340A@deathbeforedecaf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <226ae0c60702261046m671647bbwc9aef6b1f6475522@mail.gmail.com> <934FF44E-39F5-410B-B235-5F5709B4340A@deathbeforedecaf.net> Cc: Rob Subject: Re: Using source control to manage system configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:56:18 -0000 On 2/27/07, Rob wrote: > David & Chuck, > > I'm already using RCS, and I've built a somewhat clunky mechanism > around it. > > One machine holds the master copies of > - site-wide files (/etc/ntp.conf, /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/syslog.conf) > - host-specific files (/etc/hosts, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf) for > each server > > At install time, both sets of files are tarred up and copied to the > new server. If there's a conflict, the host-specific files win. > > Problem: > > It's a good system for installs, but then I update the files on the > working server. I always mean to merge the changes back to the master > copy, but it never quite happens. > > Solution: > > CVS with a remote repository looks good - updates on the server, and > a central record of all changes. Reinstalling a server should be as > easy as 'cvs co $HOST'. > > Problem: > > I don't want 6 identical copies of /etc/ntp.conf under version > control, so the site-wide files and host-specific files should be in > separate modules. But they have the same working directory, and this > is where I run into problems with CVS - it's impossible to check them > both out to the same server. > > Is there some way to do this with Subversion? Or can a file be shared > by different modules? Or am I going about this all wrong? Hi Rob, Well, I'm not quite sure that it will answer all of your questions, but take a look at Luke Kanies's article called ''Using version control in system administration''. It's available from the USENIX website at http://www.usenix.org/publications/login/2005-12/pdfs/kanies.pdf HTH, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 18:02:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1744216A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AE413C46B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8168519B4 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:02:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:02:15 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070228180215.03fcd926@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070228124421.j73ex8x4ow0g0o8k@mail.schnarff.com> References: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070228124421.j73ex8x4ow0g0o8k@mail.schnarff.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:02:19 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:44:21 -0500 alex@schnarff.com wrote: > Quoting RW : > > When I used DHCP with PF, I found that it just worked without any > > rules at all. > > That's been my experience as well (admittedly on OpenBSD, but it's > basically the same PF). Remember, your NIC's initialization sequence, > which is where the DHCP request will come, happens before PF is > enabled, so you're essentially at a "pass all" sort of a state when > the request happens. > > The one thing to keep in mind is that if you're doing, say, NAT for > some clients behind the box, you can use a rule like this to deal > with any changes in your dynamic IP Not in my experience. I was using a half-bridge modem that had a 30 second lease time, which was definitely renewing. It would also give me a private address when PPPoA went down, and I saw that happen too. I added-in some early static rules to log all the DHCP packets. IIRC I never saw any of the lease renewal packets, just some broadcast packets. I asked in this list about it but never got a reply. I suspect that either DHCP sees the packets directly in some way, or PF has some special handling for DHCP. In either case it would make sense for PF rules to see the broadcasts, since they might need to be bridged. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 18:07:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB0516A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2743013C478 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31865 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2007 18:07:26 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Feb 2007 18:07:25 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id F23D028430; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:07:24 -0500 (EST) To: Christian Baer References: <200702281044.16855.josh@tcbug.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:07:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200702281044.16855.josh@tcbug.org> (Josh Paetzel's message of "Wed\, 28 Feb 2007 10\:44\:16 -0600") Message-ID: <44hct617hf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compiling ports with more than one job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:07:27 -0000 Josh Paetzel writes: > On Wednesday 28 February 2007 04:32, Christian Baer wrote: >> Good morning[1], folks! >> >> I am currently setting up a Sun U60 with FreeBSD. A few amount of >> apps will be installed on it, when I'm through with it. And that is >> where it gets a little frustrating. >> >> The packages for SPARC64 aren't really up to date. That is why >> using them isn't really an option. Besides, some programs actually >> get a real boost if they are compiled with an -mcpu flag, which >> probably isn't set when the packages are compiled. So, I'm down to >> installing them over the ports collection. >> >> That isn't bad in itself. But even a U60 isn't really a fast >> machine and if you compile bigger collections (like x.org, kde, >> firefox etc.) you can watch yourself aging while the machine is at >> it. It would be a great help if I could really use both CPUs in >> this machine. But somehow that doesn't work. I have observed two >> things so far (in general): >> >> Some ports (like mc) have a menu for choosing the compile options. >> If I try to make one of those with more than one job (make -j 2) I >> can't hit any of the boxes on the list of options or even hit the >> "ok" button. It would seem that make went on to the next job >> without actually waiting for the input. >> >> The same background but with a slightly different effect is also >> true for ports without a menu. I couldn't make xorg with more than >> one job because make just ran on without waiting for the required >> things to be there and stopped with a "no such file or directory". >> That is quite a drag as on UltraSPARC II CPUs compiling isn't much >> fun even if you use all the CPU-power there is. >> >> Normally you'd think that a meta-port like xorg just hast to be >> compiled step by step. However, a far more complex system (make -j >> 4 buildworld) works just fine. >> >> Am I too thick to get the point here or is it really true that the >> ports in general will only compile correctly one job at a time? >> >> Regards >> Chris > > The issues with the config screen sounds like a bug, but one that is > unlikely to get fixed any time soon. You can avoid it by doing a > make config-recursive before building the port, but you're still > going to run in to the problem that ports are not guarranteed to > by -jX safe, some will work, some won't, and there's no way of > knowing without trying it. In general you can save yourself a lot of > headaches by not trying in the first place. Exactly right. However, you can get some parallel building by doing more than one single-threaded build at the same time. This leads to some danger of corrupting the database, though, so it's not for the squeamish. I know that portupgrade uses locking to control those problems, and I suspect some of the other port-management ports probably have similar capabilities. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 18:08:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FF816A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D628113C48D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8F65190F for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:08:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:08:42 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070228180842.2e3787db@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070228180215.03fcd926@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070228124421.j73ex8x4ow0g0o8k@mail.schnarff.com> <20070228180215.03fcd926@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:08:46 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:02:15 +0000 RW wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:44:21 -0500 > alex@schnarff.com wrote: > > > Quoting RW : > > > > When I used DHCP with PF, I found that it just worked without any > > > rules at all. > > > > That's been my experience as well (admittedly on OpenBSD, but it's > > basically the same PF). Remember, your NIC's initialization > > sequence, which is where the DHCP request will come, happens before > > PF is enabled, so you're essentially at a "pass all" sort of a > > state when the request happens. > > > > The one thing to keep in mind is that if you're doing, say, NAT for > > some clients behind the box, you can use a rule like this to deal > > with any changes in your dynamic IP > > Not in my experience. > > I was using a half-bridge modem that had a 30 second lease time, which > was definitely renewing. It would also give me a private address when > PPPoA went down, and I saw that happen too. > > I added-in some early static rules to log all the DHCP packets. IIRC I > never saw any of the lease renewal packets, just some broadcast > packets. I asked in this list about it but never got a reply. > > I suspect that either DHCP sees the packets directly in some way, or > PF has some special handling for DHCP. In either case it would make > sense for PF rules to see the broadcasts, since they might need to be > bridged. Sorry, I misread what you were saying about the rule, but the point still remains that it's not simply the case that PF is in pass-all mode when DHCP start. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 18:12:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD5416A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BB213C47E for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-68-49-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([68.49.149.185] helo=schnarff.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMSUH-000ByF-In for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:21:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 698 invoked by uid 67); 28 Feb 2007 17:21:08 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.68 ([192.168.2.68]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:21:08 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 68.49.149.185 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: schnarff Message-ID: <20070228122108.bhd56o5wn4ss8c4g@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:21:08 -0500 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Cc: Jean Lagarde Subject: Stability Issues on 5.4-RELEASE Box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:12:04 -0000 Hello All, I've recently fallen into the task of administering a FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE box that acts as the web server for a small non-profit that I volunteer for. Unfortunately, the system has been having some extremely vexing stability issues over the last month or so, which even my 6+ years of experience as an OpenBSD admin have not helped me track down. First things first, let me say explicitly that I'm not trying to say "FreeBSD sucks, it's not stable" or anything like that. It's a fine OS, and I'm sure that it's either faulty hardware or a misconfiguration of some sort causing these problems. :-) That said, here are some of the symptoms the box has been experiencing: * Occasional random reboots. I've only personally witnessed one, and they don't happen often, but any time a *NIX box just reboots for no apparent reason (there was no indication of a problem in any of the logs, at least that I could see), something really bad is going on. * Random extreme slowness when logging in via SSH, with the time to get a shell ranging from a second or two all the way up to 80 seconds. The box isn't busy enough that it's just slow due to load (especially since, once you're in, things fly), and it's not just a reverse DNS issue like I've seen on OpenBSD (this occurs even when logging in from locations listed in /etc/hosts that resolve properly out of that file). Until I upgraded to the current version of OpenSSL/OpenSSH, the box would occasionally just become unresponsive altogether over SSH, not allowing logins for 15+ minutes at a time. * Issues with files that are not found on startup sometimes, but are other times. Prime example: the Zope CMS system that's been installed failed to find libmysqlclient.so after a planned soft reboot, but found it with no trouble on a subsequent boot a few minutes later, with no config changes in between. * A warning in /var/log/messages that the root filesystem was full, when it was at 60% capacity (and something like 2% inode capacity); the problem has yet to repeat, though no files have been cleared off of that filesystem. * Random crashes of the Zope/Plone system that's running the main part of the web site. While I realize that, in and of itself, this means nothing about the stability of the underlying OS, in the context of all of the other things going on (as well as the fact that the Zope list has been unable to help figure out why it's crashing), it seems like it might be further evidence of a larger problem. Thus far, besides simply scanning log files, constantly watching "top" and "ps", etc., I've not been able to do much with the box. As I said, I upgraded OpenSSL/OpenSSH to current versions, and I installed pf as the firewall (there was none before I arrived...don't even get me started on that). This weekend the guy who was the previous admin will be running a Memtest for me and disabling hyperthreading (which there's no performance justification for, and which has caused me stability issues at least on Linux in the past), since the server is in Oregon and I'm in the DC area. That's about the extent of what I've been able to do to date, since this is a production box. What I'd like to know from you guys is: * Am I justified in suspecting hyperthreading as a potential cause of instability? * Does 5.4-RELEASE have any known bugs that might cause stability issues like the ones I've described here? More importantly, would an upgrade to 6.2-RELEASE be worthwhile (as is my instinct), in terms of being generally more stable and/or having better hardware support? Would such an upgrade be possible/relatively painless to perform without being physically at a console, as has been the case with OpenBSD over the years? * Given my dmesg below, do you see any specific problems? * Do you have any other suggestions for debugging this problem? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. :-) Alex Kirk dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May 8 10:21:06 UTC 2005 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (3200.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf43 Stepping = 3 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2137509888 (2038 MB) avail memory = 2086207488 (1989 MB) ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 28.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 28.2 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 28.3 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 28.4 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 28.5 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 uhci0: port 0x2080-0x209f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x2060-0x207f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x2040-0x205f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x2020-0x203f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib6: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 fxp0: port 0x1100-0x113f mem 0x88000000-0x8801ffff,0x88021000-0x88021fff irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci6 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:b3:d5:4d:3f ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x88020000-0x88020fff irq 22 at device 1.0 on pci6 aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x20b0-0x20bf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 18 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0x20a0-0x20af,0x20e8-0x20eb,0x20c0-0x20c7,0x20ec-0x20ef,0x20c8-0x20cf irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata2: channel #0 on atapci1 ata3: channel #1 on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f0,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A orm0: at iomem 0xcc800-0xccfff,0xcb000-0xcc7ff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 3200012824 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: CDRW at ata0-slave PIO4 Interrupt storm detected on "irq19: uhci1+"; throttling interrupt source ad4: 238475MB [484521/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA33 ad5: 238475MB [484521/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA33 ad6: 238475MB [484521/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA33 ad7: 238475MB [484521/16/63] at ata3-slave UDMA33 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device sa0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 18:19:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B60916A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F83613C478 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-68-49-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([68.49.149.185] helo=schnarff.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMTOU-0000eA-Bb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:19:14 -0500 Received: (qmail 9522 invoked by uid 67); 28 Feb 2007 18:19:13 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.68 ([192.168.2.68]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:19:13 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 68.49.149.185 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: schnarff Message-ID: <20070228131913.y8awi6yt74c88084@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:19:13 -0500 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070228124421.j73ex8x4ow0g0o8k@mail.schnarff.com> <20070228180215.03fcd926@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070228180215.03fcd926@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Subject: Re: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:19:16 -0000 Quoting RW : > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:44:21 -0500 > alex@schnarff.com wrote: > >> Quoting RW : > >> > When I used DHCP with PF, I found that it just worked without any >> > rules at all. >> >> That's been my experience as well (admittedly on OpenBSD, but it's >> basically the same PF). Remember, your NIC's initialization sequence, >> which is where the DHCP request will come, happens before PF is >> enabled, so you're essentially at a "pass all" sort of a state when >> the request happens. >> >> The one thing to keep in mind is that if you're doing, say, NAT for >> some clients behind the box, you can use a rule like this to deal >> with any changes in your dynamic IP > > Not in my experience. > > I was using a half-bridge modem that had a 30 second lease time, which > was definitely renewing. It would also give me a private address when > PPPoA went down, and I saw that happen too. Are you sure it was a 30 *second* lease time? No sane ISP would set such a low value -- that's a surefire way to overwhelm their DHCP servers. It sounds like either a) there was something misconfigured on one end of the connection (and I make no value judgement as to which end it was, given the lack of evidence), or b) you had an incredibly stupid ISP that I'd like the name of, so that I can avoid them at all costs. > I added-in some early static rules to log all the DHCP packets. IIRC I > never saw any of the lease renewal packets, just some broadcast > packets. I asked in this list about it but never got a reply. What were the rules? I'd be curious to see them. > I suspect that either DHCP sees the packets directly in some way, or PF > has some special handling for DHCP. In either case it would make sense > for PF rules to see the broadcasts, since they might need to be > bridged. Given this thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-pf&m=115702991719970&w=2 I'd say that DHCP goes on at a level below PF, at least on OpenBSD (which, again, should be largely similar, if not identical, on FreeBSD). In any case, the OP shouldn't have to do anything special to let DHCP through, especially if he's got something like: pass out quick on $ext_if proto udp all keep state in his ruleset, which probably makes sense anyway. Alex Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 18:37:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B56216A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462EB13C474 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB8D519B3 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:37:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:37:33 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070228183733.4f6ddfe7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: compiling ports with more than one job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:37:37 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:32:57 +0100 (CET) Christian Baer wrote: > Good morning[1], folks! > > I am currently setting up a Sun U60 with FreeBSD. A few amount of apps > will be installed on it, when I'm through with it. And that is where > it gets a little frustrating. > > The packages for SPARC64 aren't really up to date. That is why using > them isn't really an option. Besides, some programs actually get a > real boost if they are compiled with an -mcpu flag, which probably > isn't set when the packages are compiled. So, I'm down to installing > them over the ports collection. > > That isn't bad in itself. But even a U60 isn't really a fast machine > and if you compile bigger collections (like x.org, kde, firefox etc.) > you can watch yourself aging while the machine is at it. It would be > a great help if I could really use both CPUs in this machine. But > somehow that doesn't work. I have observed two things so far (in > general): > > Some ports (like mc) have a menu for choosing the compile options. If > I try to make one of those with more than one job (make -j 2) I can't > hit any of the boxes on the list of options or even hit the "ok" > button. It would seem that make went on to the next job without > actually waiting for the input. > > The same background but with a slightly different effect is also true > for ports without a menu. I couldn't make xorg with more than one job > because make just ran on without waiting for the required things to be > there and stopped with a "no such file or directory". That is quite a > drag as on UltraSPARC II CPUs compiling isn't much fun even if you use > all the CPU-power there is. > > Normally you'd think that a meta-port like xorg just hast to be > compiled step by step. However, a far more complex system (make -j 4 > buildworld) works just fine. There are two problems here. The first is that not all of the underlying builds support this. The second is that we are using Make as our ports scripting language - I'm guessing that in Gentoo no-one expects portage itself to be parallel. Really it's only the build stage that matters. What you might try is setting the MAKE_ARGS variable, which passes extra arguments to gmake during build and install. If a port makefile sets it explicitly you'll be out of luck, but I think most either don't set it, or use +=. Probably you would want to set it conditionally in make.conf, so you can exclude any problematical ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 19:01:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE6A16A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdfan@quirks.mine.nu) Received: from quirks.mine.nu (82-204-21-111.dsl.bbeyond.nl [82.204.21.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DB2213C4B8 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdfan@quirks.mine.nu) Received: (qmail 34402 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2007 18:58:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.12?) (192.168.2.12) by quirks.mine.nu with SMTP; 28 Feb 2007 18:58:31 -0000 Message-ID: <45E5D0FF.5000907@quirks.mine.nu> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:59:11 +0100 From: Cor User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nfs localy ok -> I pxe boot pxe client -> RPC: Timed out ? (nfs localy unresponsive) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:01:25 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to get pxe booting working on/with FreeBSD 5.5. # uname -a FreeBSD Moth01.quirks.mine.nu 5.5-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p11 #0: Sun Feb 25 20:41:52 CET 2007 root@Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOTH01 i386 I'm somehow stuck at nfs server which stops responding after a pxe booting client tried to use a nfs share to boot of. I hope hope someone can give me some insight. Any input is apreciated. My exports file looks like this; /A/hdloos -maproot=0 -network 192.168.5 -mask 255.255.255.0 And in /etc/rc.conf I have; rpcbind_enable="YES" rpcbind_flags="-l" nfs_server_enable="YES" nfsd_flags="-u -t -h 192.168.5.1 -n 6" mountd_flags="-r" nfs_client_enable="YES" At first boot nfs server pc everything looks ok; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # touch /mnt1/test # ls -l /mnt1 total 2 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Feb 28 16:29 boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Feb 28 16:40 test # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos # umount /mnt1 (now I boot my pxe boot client) On the nfs server I see then in my log besides the dhcp lease; Feb 28 16:43:52 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(mountd) Feb 28 16:44:07 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(nfs) On the screen of the pxe booting client the pc hangs at pxe_open: server addr: 192.168.5.1 pxe_open: server path: /A/hdloos pxe_open: gateway ip: 192.168.5.1 (looks all ok, except that it stops here) But after this when I go back to the nfs server and try mount nfs share local again: # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 [udp] 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out # showmount -a RPC: Timed out showmount: can't do mountdump rpc So I reboot the nfs server and back at the root prompt I do again; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos in my dhcpd.conf I have specific to pxe client; subnet 192.168.5.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.5.200 192.168.5.250; option domain-name-servers 192.168.5.1; option routers 192.168.5.1; } host hdloze001 { hardware ethernet 00:04:76:1f:7d:b6; server-name "hdloos001.quirks.mine.nu"; fixed-address 192.168.5.150; next-server 192.168.5.1; filename "pxeboot"; option root-path "192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos"; } Thanks for reading this far, Cor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 19:12:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0D716A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdfan@quirks.mine.nu) Received: from quirks.mine.nu (82-204-21-111.dsl.bbeyond.nl [82.204.21.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 775D213C494 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdfan@quirks.mine.nu) Received: (qmail 32647 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2007 17:30:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.12?) (192.168.2.12) by mail1.quirks.mine.nu with SMTP; 28 Feb 2007 17:30:00 -0000 Message-ID: <45E5BC41.1090700@quirks.mine.nu> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:30:41 +0100 From: Cor User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nfs localy ok -> I pxe boot pxe client -> RPC: Timed out ? (nfs localy unresponsive) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:12:55 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to get pxe booting working on/with FreeBSD 5.5. # uname -a FreeBSD Moth01.quirks.mine.nu 5.5-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p11 #0: Sun Feb 25 20:41:52 CET 2007 root@Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOTH01 i386 I'm somehow stuck at nfs server which stops responding after a pxe booting client tried to use a nfs share to boot of. I hope hope someone can give me some insight. Any input is apreciated. My exports file looks like this; /A/hdloos -maproot=0 -network 192.168.5 -mask 255.255.255.0 And in /etc/rc.conf I have; rpcbind_enable="YES" rpcbind_flags="-l" nfs_server_enable="YES" nfsd_flags="-u -t -h 192.168.5.1 -n 6" mountd_flags="-r" nfs_client_enable="YES" At first boot nfs server pc everything looks ok; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # touch /mnt1/test # ls -l /mnt1 total 2 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Feb 28 16:29 boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Feb 28 16:40 test # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos # umount /mnt1 (now I boot my pxe boot client) On the nfs server I see then in my log besides the dhcp lease; Feb 28 16:43:52 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(mountd) Feb 28 16:44:07 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(nfs) On the screen of the pxe booting client the pc hangs at pxe_open: server addr: 192.168.5.1 pxe_open: server path: /A/hdloos pxe_open: gateway ip: 192.168.5.1 (looks all ok, except that it stops here) But after this when I go back to the nfs server and try mount nfs share local again: # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 [udp] 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out # showmount -a RPC: Timed out showmount: can't do mountdump rpc So I reboot the nfs server and back at the root prompt I do again; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos in my dhcpd.conf I have specific to pxe client; subnet 192.168.5.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.5.200 192.168.5.250; option domain-name-servers 192.168.5.1; option routers 192.168.5.1; } host hdloze001 { hardware ethernet 00:04:76:1f:7d:b6; server-name "hdloos001.quirks.mine.nu"; fixed-address 192.168.5.150; next-server 192.168.5.1; filename "pxeboot"; option root-path "192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos"; } Thanks for reading this far, Cor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 19:14:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233C416A403 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdfan@quirks.mine.nu) Received: from quirks.mine.nu (82-204-21-111.dsl.bbeyond.nl [82.204.21.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81DFA13C4B4 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdfan@quirks.mine.nu) Received: (qmail 34243 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2007 18:51:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.12?) (192.168.2.12) by mail1.quirks.mine.nu with SMTP; 28 Feb 2007 18:51:32 -0000 Message-ID: <45E5CF5D.9090806@quirks.mine.nu> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:52:13 +0100 From: Cor User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nfs localy ok -> I pxe boot pxe client -> RPC: Timed out ? (nfs localy unresponsive) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:14:27 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to get pxe booting working on/with FreeBSD 5.5. # uname -a FreeBSD Moth01.quirks.mine.nu 5.5-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p11 #0: Sun Feb 25 20:41:52 CET 2007 root@Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOTH01 i386 I'm somehow stuck at nfs server which stops responding after a pxe booting client tried to use a nfs share to boot of. I hope hope someone can give me some insight. Any input is apreciated. My exports file looks like this; /A/hdloos -maproot=0 -network 192.168.5 -mask 255.255.255.0 And in /etc/rc.conf I have; rpcbind_enable="YES" rpcbind_flags="-l" nfs_server_enable="YES" nfsd_flags="-u -t -h 192.168.5.1 -n 6" mountd_flags="-r" nfs_client_enable="YES" At first boot nfs server pc everything looks ok; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # touch /mnt1/test # ls -l /mnt1 total 2 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Feb 28 16:29 boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Feb 28 16:40 test # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos # umount /mnt1 (now I boot my pxe boot client) On the nfs server I see then in my log besides the dhcp lease; Feb 28 16:43:52 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(mountd) Feb 28 16:44:07 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(nfs) On the screen of the pxe booting client the pc hangs at pxe_open: server addr: 192.168.5.1 pxe_open: server path: /A/hdloos pxe_open: gateway ip: 192.168.5.1 (looks all ok, except that it stops here) But after this when I go back to the nfs server and try mount nfs share local again: # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 [udp] 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out # showmount -a RPC: Timed out showmount: can't do mountdump rpc So I reboot the nfs server and back at the root prompt I do again; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos in my dhcpd.conf I have specific to pxe client; subnet 192.168.5.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.5.200 192.168.5.250; option domain-name-servers 192.168.5.1; option routers 192.168.5.1; } host hdloze001 { hardware ethernet 00:04:76:1f:7d:b6; server-name "hdloos001.quirks.mine.nu"; fixed-address 192.168.5.150; next-server 192.168.5.1; filename "pxeboot"; option root-path "192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos"; } Thanks for reading this far, Cor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 19:25:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF77D16A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cor-lem@zonnet.nl) Received: from smtp3.versatel.nl (smtp3.versatel.nl [62.58.50.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252D513C478 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cor-lem@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 9346 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2007 19:01:26 -0000 Received: from dns03.admin.zonnet.nl (HELO dell057.admin.zonnet.nl) ([10.170.1.5]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 28 Feb 2007 19:01:26 -0000 Received: by dell057.admin.zonnet.nl (Postfix, from userid 33) id 3CBE253B6; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:01:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 82-204-21-111.dsl.bbeyond.nl (82-204-21-111.dsl.bbeyond.nl [82.204.21.111]) by webmail.versatel.nl (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:01:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20070228200146.op8e2lxsta9csgww@webmail.versatel.nl> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:01:46 +0100 From: cor-lem@zonnet.nl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Subject: nfs localy ok -> I pxe boot pxe client -> RPC: Timed out ? (nfs localy unresponsive) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:25:32 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to get pxe booting working on/with FreeBSD 5.5. # uname -a FreeBSD Moth01.quirks.mine.nu 5.5-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p11 #0: Sun Feb 25 20:41:52 CET 2007 root@Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOTH01 i386 I'm somehow stuck at nfs server which stops responding after a pxe booting client tried to use a nfs share to boot of. I hope hope someone can give me some insight. Any input is apreciated. My exports file looks like this; /A/hdloos -maproot=0 -network 192.168.5 -mask 255.255.255.0 And in /etc/rc.conf I have; rpcbind_enable="YES" rpcbind_flags="-l" nfs_server_enable="YES" nfsd_flags="-u -t -h 192.168.5.1 -n 6" mountd_flags="-r" nfs_client_enable="YES" At first boot nfs server pc everything looks ok; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # touch /mnt1/test # ls -l /mnt1 total 2 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Feb 28 16:29 boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Feb 28 16:40 test # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos # umount /mnt1 (now I boot my pxe boot client) On the nfs server I see then in my log besides the dhcp lease; Feb 28 16:43:52 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(mountd) Feb 28 16:44:07 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(nfs) On the screen of the pxe booting client the pc hangs at pxe_open: server addr: 192.168.5.1 pxe_open: server path: /A/hdloos pxe_open: gateway ip: 192.168.5.1 (looks all ok, except that it stops here) But after this when I go back to the nfs server and try mount nfs share local again: # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 [udp] 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out # showmount -a RPC: Timed out showmount: can't do mountdump rpc So I reboot the nfs server and back at the root prompt I do again; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos in my dhcpd.conf I have specific to pxe client; subnet 192.168.5.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.5.200 192.168.5.250; option domain-name-servers 192.168.5.1; option routers 192.168.5.1; } host hdloze001 { hardware ethernet 00:04:76:1f:7d:b6; server-name "hdloos001.quirks.mine.nu"; fixed-address 192.168.5.150; next-server 192.168.5.1; filename "pxeboot"; option root-path "192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos"; } Thanks for reading this far, Cor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 19:26:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753C816A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cor-lem@zonnet.nl) Received: from smtp3.versatel.nl (smtp3.versatel.nl [62.58.50.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7AE13C4AA for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cor-lem@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 26150 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2007 19:25:37 -0000 Received: from dns03.admin.zonnet.nl (HELO dell057.admin.zonnet.nl) ([10.170.1.5]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 28 Feb 2007 19:25:37 -0000 Received: by dell057.admin.zonnet.nl (Postfix, from userid 33) id 07A9F53B6; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:25:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from 82-204-21-111.dsl.bbeyond.nl (82-204-21-111.dsl.bbeyond.nl [82.204.21.111]) by webmail.versatel.nl (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:25:57 +0100 Message-ID: <20070228202557.888mndbtfxss48s4@webmail.versatel.nl> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:25:57 +0100 From: cor-lem@zonnet.nl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Subject: nfs localy ok -> I pxe boot pxe client -> RPC: Timed out ? (nfs localy unresponsive) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:26:38 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to get pxe booting working on/with FreeBSD 5.5. # uname -a FreeBSD Moth01.quirks.mine.nu 5.5-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p11 #0: Sun Feb 25 20:41:52 CET 2007 root@Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOTH01 i386 I'm somehow stuck at nfs server which stops responding after a pxe booting client tried to use a nfs share to boot of. I hope hope someone can give me some insight. Any input is apreciated. My exports file looks like this; /A/hdloos -maproot=0 -network 192.168.5 -mask 255.255.255.0 And in /etc/rc.conf I have; rpcbind_enable="YES" rpcbind_flags="-l" nfs_server_enable="YES" nfsd_flags="-u -t -h 192.168.5.1 -n 6" mountd_flags="-r" nfs_client_enable="YES" At first boot nfs server pc everything looks ok; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # touch /mnt1/test # ls -l /mnt1 total 2 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Feb 28 16:29 boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Feb 28 16:40 test # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos # umount /mnt1 (now I boot my pxe boot client) On the nfs server I see then in my log besides the dhcp lease; Feb 28 16:43:52 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(mountd) Feb 28 16:44:07 Moth01 rpcbind: connect from 192.168.5.150 to getport/addr(nfs) On the screen of the pxe booting client the pc hangs at pxe_open: server addr: 192.168.5.1 pxe_open: server path: /A/hdloos pxe_open: gateway ip: 192.168.5.1 (looks all ok, except that it stops here) But after this when I go back to the nfs server and try mount nfs share local again: # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 [udp] 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out # showmount -a RPC: Timed out showmount: can't do mountdump rpc So I reboot the nfs server and back at the root prompt I do again; # mount -v 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos /mnt1 192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos on /mnt1 (nfs, fsid 05ff000404000000) # showmount -a All mount points on localhost: Moth01.quirks.mine.nu:/A/hdloos in my dhcpd.conf I have specific to pxe client; subnet 192.168.5.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.5.200 192.168.5.250; option domain-name-servers 192.168.5.1; option routers 192.168.5.1; } host hdloze001 { hardware ethernet 00:04:76:1f:7d:b6; server-name "hdloos001.quirks.mine.nu"; fixed-address 192.168.5.150; next-server 192.168.5.1; filename "pxeboot"; option root-path "192.168.5.1:/A/hdloos"; } Thanks for reading this far, Cor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 19:31:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562AC16A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdfan@quirks.mine.nu) Received: from quirks.mine.nu (82-204-21-111.dsl.bbeyond.nl [82.204.21.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7E8013C442 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdfan@quirks.mine.nu) Received: (qmail 35210 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2007 19:35:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.12?) (192.168.2.12) by quirks.mine.nu with SMTP; 28 Feb 2007 19:35:07 -0000 Message-ID: <45E5D994.8020103@quirks.mine.nu> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:35:48 +0100 From: Cor User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E5CF5D.9090806@quirks.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <45E5CF5D.9090806@quirks.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: nfs localy ok -> I pxe boot pxe client -> RPC: Timed out ? (nfs localy unresponsive) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:31:20 -0000 Cor schreef: > Hello, [snip] Aplogies for seeming flood of msg's. I thought they were rejected somehow since they didnt show up here. Boy do I feel blue now I see them all delievered, Cor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 19:38:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DC916A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsmith_60@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA6A13C467 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsmith_60@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.216]) by bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:26:50 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:26:50 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:26:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [71.108.0.222] X-Originating-Email: [dsmith_60@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dsmith_60@hotmail.com From: "Dwight Smith" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:26:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2007 19:26:50.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[654E7800:01C75B6E] Cc: Subject: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:38:50 -0000 Good morning, My name is Dwight Smith, and I only had a question or two in terms of the future useability of FreeBSD. I have used it on and off and found it to be a great UNIX operating system for servers, but my only major concern was the amount of time it takes to prepare a server such as an Apache Server with PHP and MySQL support as opposed to a Linux system which is what I am currently using now as well as my company. I guess my question is that will the ease of building or installing software for FreeBSD ever streamline to where you do not have to do as many steps and text config file entries? What had me curious to asking this is this article I read about a review on FreeBSD 6.2 (http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/67/) The reviewer had a lot of criticisms that seemed harsh, but at the same time raised some valid points. I only ask this question as I would like to see FreeBSD get the same recognition as Linux as FreeBSD is a powerful OS that should not be overshadowed and I hope it doesn't cause it saved my IT job many a times when a server crashes and I have to piece together an old PII with 32 MB RAM and install FreeBSD with Samba. So thanks in advance for your attention in this and I wish all of you the best. Sincerely, Dwight Smith Computer Coordinator Christ Second Baptist Church _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices you’ll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 19:51:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A28816A405 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: from mail.thingy.com (wotsit.thingy.com [212.21.100.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DAC13C4A7 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: (qmail 73069 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2007 19:51:52 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.13?) (howie@thingy.com@212.21.124.49) by wotsit3.thingy.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Feb 2007 19:51:52 +0000 Message-ID: <45E5DD42.10108@thingy.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:51:30 +0000 From: Howard Jones User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dwight Smith References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:51:55 -0000 Dwight Smith wrote: > Good morning, > > My name is Dwight Smith, and I only had a question or two in terms of > the future useability of FreeBSD. I have used it on and off and found > it to be a great UNIX operating system for servers, but my only major > concern was the amount of time it takes to prepare a server such as an > Apache Server with PHP and MySQL support as opposed to a Linux system > which is what I am currently using now as well as my company. I guess > my question is that will the ease of building or installing software > for FreeBSD ever streamline to where you do not have to do as many > steps and text config file entries? I built a new server just like you describe yesterday morning, from scratch, to replace a dying Cacti server. The whole process took about an hour, I guess. All the text files I had to alter were /etc/rc.conf.local and the apache httpd.conf and MySQL my.cnf. Since the last two are the same on any Unix system, I guess I'm confused about which files you need to edit that you don't need to on a typical Linux system... My complete install was: FreeBSD 6.2 scripted with install.cfg to a standard spec, freebsd-update, portsnap, install portupgrade, then portinstall apache , php5 and mysql-server... substitute Kickstart for install.cfg and yum/apt for portinstall and it's the same on CentOS. I used to feel the same way about FreeBSD, but if you stick to the straight and narrow and use ports where possible, you can streamline the initial install and upgrade process quite a bit. If you don't need any special kernel support, then freebsd-update covers the basic system updates, too. If you install a lot of servers, then look into install.cfg and the sysinstall manpage too - we go from blank server to running system with our standard customisations and packages in about 8 minutes with one keypress, using standard tools. Have fun, Howie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 20:02:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E772016A406 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD03A13C4B2 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l1SK2ZlB080542; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:02:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:02:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702281502.35926.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Dwight Smith Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:02:37 -0000 On Wednesday 28 February 2007 14:26, Dwight Smith wrote: > My name is Dwight Smith, and I only had a question or two in terms of the > future useability of FreeBSD. I have used it on and off and found it to be > a great UNIX operating system for servers, but my only major concern was > the amount of time it takes to prepare a server such as an Apache Server > with PHP and MySQL support as opposed to a Linux system which is what I am > currently using now as well as my company. I guess my question is that will > the ease of building or installing software for FreeBSD ever streamline to > where you do not have to do as many steps and text config file entries? If you don't need any customizations, "pkg_add -r packagename" will automatically download and install almost everything available in the ports system. It will even get the newest version appropriate for the version of FreeBSD you are running. If you prefer to compile from source or need a non-default setting, going into the relevant directory in the ports tree and typing "make install clean" will again do everything automatically. In most cases the same command will also present you with an easy-to-use menu of options available for the port, if any. Which of those one-line commands strikes you as being less than easy from the point of view of a systems administrator, developer, technical end-user or Computer Coordinator? If you have concerns about a specific piece of software, sending a message to this or another appropriate list or directly to the port's maintainer will typically yield good information, and if you have ideas for improvements they should be well received in the appropriate forum. > What had me curious to asking this is this article I read about a review on > FreeBSD 6.2 (http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/67/) The > reviewer had a lot of criticisms that seemed harsh, but at the same time > raised some valid points. I only ask this question as I would like to see > FreeBSD get the same recognition as Linux as FreeBSD is a powerful OS that > should not be overshadowed and I hope it doesn't cause it saved my IT job > many a times when a server crashes and I have to piece together an old PII > with 32 MB RAM and install FreeBSD with Samba. So thanks in advance for > your attention in this and I wish all of you the best. My initial take on that review is that the reviewer had an earlier bad experience with FreeBSD (perhaps as a result of failing to understand that 5.0 and 5.1 were developer preview releases), tried installing 6.2 once on a single system, ran down his pre-existing checklist of complaints to see if any of them had magically been fixed (as a result, perhaps, of the FreeBSD developer community reading his mind and finding themselves in agreement), did little if any troubleshooting of the hardware compatibility issues he mentioned (even reporting such occurences is a good way to contribute to a volunteer-based project), and wrote the whole thing off as being stagnant. Some of his points and recommendations might have merit, but many seem to be the writer's wishlist for making FreeBSD into something it isn't (some hybrid of Gentoo and Fedora, perhaps). That and his general attitude of hopeless negativism[1] make it hard to take his review seriously. Personally, FreeBSD 6.2 is the best OS I have ever used and I find it extremely well-suited to my needs and tastes for both server and desktop use. The only way to see if that is the case for you is to try it (again). If there are shortcomings, be proactive about reporting them. FreeBSD's user community is one of its biggest strengths. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 20:03:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F22416A404 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Received: from mail.totaldiver.net (fl-209-26-20-205.sta.embarqhsd.net [209.26.20.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EB713C478 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Received: from WRKSTN210.totaldiver.net (router.tegogroup.com [71.122.228.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.totaldiver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCF4B852 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:03:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070228145925.01a27578@totaldiver.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:03:47 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Jeff Palmer In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:03:50 -0000 At 02:26 PM 2/28/2007, Dwight Smith wrote: >Good morning, > >My name is Dwight Smith, and I only had a question or two in terms >of the future useability of FreeBSD. I have used it on and off and >found it to be a great UNIX operating system for servers, but my >only major concern was the amount of time it takes to prepare a >server such as an Apache Server with PHP and MySQL support as >opposed to a Linux system which is what I am currently using now as >well as my company. I guess my question is that will the ease of >building or installing software for FreeBSD ever streamline to where >you do not have to do as many steps and text config file entries? >What had me curious to asking this is this article I read about a >review on FreeBSD 6.2 >(http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/67/) The reviewer >had a lot of criticisms that seemed harsh, but at the same time >raised some valid points. I only ask this question as I would like >to see FreeBSD get the same recognition as Linux as FreeBSD is a >powerful OS that should not be overshadowed and I hope it doesn't >cause it saved my IT job many a times when a server crashes and I >have to piece together an old PII with 32 MB RAM and install FreeBSD >with Samba. So thanks in advance for your attention in this and I >wish all of you the best. > >Sincerely, > >Dwight Smith >Computer Coordinator >Christ Second Baptist Church Dwight, That review was from a person who obviously is very inexperienced with FreeBSD in general. Please read my thread discussion with him found here: http://www.tjrforum.com/showthread.php?t=3067 As mentioned in the thread, I'm done replying to it. The guy is very inexperienced, and writes technical reviews that are completely inaccurate. when questioned about it (on technical merit) he has no good responses. As for your actual question, installing the software is simple if you use the ports (cd /usr/ports/foo/bar; make install clean) So to be honest, I'm not sure what "streamlining" you'd need, want, or expect.. 16,000 3rd party applications able to be installed with a "make install" command seems pretty streamlined to me ;) - Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 20:37:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B4216A407 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCEF13C47E for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id l1SKbnWJ027107; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id l1SKbnXm027106; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:37:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:37:49 -0500 From: Thomas Dickey To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20070228203749.GA25931@saltmine.radix.net> References: <20070228035543.GA77041@thought.org> <45E52EFE.9000301@dir.bg> <45E592D2.6010003@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E592D2.6010003@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:37:51 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:33:54AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Jordan Gordeev wrote: > >Gary Kline wrote: > >> I'm not sure whether this just in Ubuntu or in the Gnome desktop =2E.. > >> servers. I thought I'd ask here before I dig into this. I think > >> a new xterm was recently updated in ports; not sure if tat is a > >> factor or not. no (I don't recall making changes in that area). > >See stty(1) and termios(4). You should modify the erase or erase2 values. reasonable (Ubuntu uses Debian packages iirc, which makes it use DEL, FreeBSD uses BS for erase, etc). =20 > The terminal settings available from gnome (if you open up an xterm /=20 > Gnome terminal shell using the Terminal command under the menu) has=20 gnome-terminal isn't xterm (OP isn't making that distinction either). xterm has menu settings which can change the assignment of BS/DEL to the "backspace" key (unlike gnome-terminal, it has a manpage describing these details ;-). --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFF5egbtIqByHxlDocRAqkzAJwL2bsQEN6Q7Y2iKs2LN3/BHK3qiQCgnqk4 HgD02EA3str7pl5uZIcrSvE= =J5gp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 21:16:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419EB16A404 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4A913C474 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D316551926 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:16:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:41 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070228211641.68c06f16@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070228131913.y8awi6yt74c88084@mail.schnarff.com> References: <200702272248.l1RMmD81013215@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> <8cb6106e0702271455w5be91292vfce007b8ed439e1d@mail.gmail.com> <20070228173517.5a044300@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070228124421.j73ex8x4ow0g0o8k@mail.schnarff.com> <20070228180215.03fcd926@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070228131913.y8awi6yt74c88084@mail.schnarff.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pf.conf and cable modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:45 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:19:13 -0500 alex@schnarff.com wrote: > Quoting RW : > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:44:21 -0500 > > alex@schnarff.com wrote: > > I was using a half-bridge modem that had a 30 second lease time, > > which was definitely renewing. It would also give me a private > > address when PPPoA went down, and I saw that happen too. > > Are you sure it was a 30 *second* lease time? No sane ISP would set > such a low value -- that's a surefire way to overwhelm their DHCP > servers. As I said, it was a half-bridge modem. It terminates PPPoA and delivers the public IP address and DNS server addresses with its own DHCP server. When PPP is not connected it issues a private IP address instead. Until the Draytek Vigor 100 offered true PPPoA to PPPoE bridging, half-bridge modems were the only ethernet-based modems that would work with FreeBSD and PPPoA. > > I added-in some early static rules to log all the DHCP packets. > > IIRC I never saw any of the lease renewal packets, just some > > broadcast packets. I asked in this list about it but never got a > > reply. > > What were the rules? I'd be curious to see them. > pass out log quick on $ext_if proto udp from port { bootps, bootpc} to port { bootps, bootpc} pass in log quick on $ext_if proto udp from port { bootps, bootpc} to port { bootps, bootpc} I can't remember the details, but the only packets I saw with tcpdump were some incoming broadcasts from the DHCP server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 21:38:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB12D16A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC8A13C428 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1SLc6F0026642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:38:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E5F634.9060408@enabled.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:37:56 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:38:06 -0000 so something strange has happened and my machine no longer boots and I am not clear why. Here is what happens during boot: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: sh FEnter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: /bin/sh ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: what is the best suggestion for troubleshooting this? Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 21:39:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A9716A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster6.tls.net (ecluster6.tls.net [65.196.224.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1583D13C4B3 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 58653 invoked by uid 89); 28 Feb 2007 21:37:50 -0000 Received: from 64-184-10-26.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.105?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.26) by auth-ecluster6.tls.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2007 21:37:50 -0000 Message-ID: <45E5F67D.3060701@pixelhammer.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:39:09 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070228122108.bhd56o5wn4ss8c4g@mail.schnarff.com> In-Reply-To: <20070228122108.bhd56o5wn4ss8c4g@mail.schnarff.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Stability Issues on 5.4-RELEASE Box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:39:25 -0000 alex@schnarff.com wrote: > Hello All, > > I've recently fallen into the task of administering a FreeBSD > 5.4-RELEASE box that acts as the web server for a small non-profit that > I volunteer for. Unfortunately, the system has been having some > extremely vexing stability issues over the last month or so, which even > my 6+ years of experience as an OpenBSD admin have not helped me track > down. > > First things first, let me say explicitly that I'm not trying to say > "FreeBSD sucks, it's not stable" or anything like that. It's a fine OS, > and I'm sure that it's either faulty hardware or a misconfiguration of > some sort causing these problems. :-) > > That said, here are some of the symptoms the box has been experiencing: > > * Occasional random reboots. I've only personally witnessed one, and > they don't happen often, but any time a *NIX box just reboots for no > apparent reason (there was no indication of a problem in any of the > logs, at least that I could see), something really bad is going on. > > * Random extreme slowness when logging in via SSH, with the time to get > a shell ranging from a second or two all the way up to 80 seconds. The > box isn't busy enough that it's just slow due to load (especially since, > once you're in, things fly), and it's not just a reverse DNS issue like > I've seen on OpenBSD (this occurs even when logging in from locations > listed in /etc/hosts that resolve properly out of that file). Until I > upgraded to the current version of OpenSSL/OpenSSH, the box would > occasionally just become unresponsive altogether over SSH, not allowing > logins for 15+ minutes at a time. > > * Issues with files that are not found on startup sometimes, but are > other times. Prime example: the Zope CMS system that's been installed > failed to find libmysqlclient.so after a planned soft reboot, but found > it with no trouble on a subsequent boot a few minutes later, with no > config changes in between. > > * A warning in /var/log/messages that the root filesystem was full, when > it was at 60% capacity (and something like 2% inode capacity); the > problem has yet to repeat, though no files have been cleared off of that > filesystem. > > * Random crashes of the Zope/Plone system that's running the main part > of the web site. While I realize that, in and of itself, this means > nothing about the stability of the underlying OS, in the context of all > of the other things going on (as well as the fact that the Zope list has > been unable to help figure out why it's crashing), it seems like it > might be further evidence of a larger problem. > > Thus far, besides simply scanning log files, constantly watching "top" > and "ps", etc., I've not been able to do much with the box. As I said, I > upgraded OpenSSL/OpenSSH to current versions, and I installed pf as the > firewall (there was none before I arrived...don't even get me started on > that). This weekend the guy who was the previous admin will be running a > Memtest for me and disabling hyperthreading (which there's no > performance justification for, and which has caused me stability issues > at least on Linux in the past), since the server is in Oregon and I'm in > the DC area. That's about the extent of what I've been able to do to > date, since this is a production box. > > What I'd like to know from you guys is: > > * Am I justified in suspecting hyperthreading as a potential cause of > instability? > > * Does 5.4-RELEASE have any known bugs that might cause stability issues > like the ones I've described here? More importantly, would an upgrade to > 6.2-RELEASE be worthwhile (as is my instinct), in terms of being > generally more stable and/or having better hardware support? Would such > an upgrade be possible/relatively painless to perform without being > physically at a console, as has been the case with OpenBSD over the years? > > * Given my dmesg below, do you see any specific problems? > > * Do you have any other suggestions for debugging this problem? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. :-) > > Alex Kirk I would certainly think hardware is the place to look. Just so you know, we still run a server on FBSD 4.8, and it runs very well. We have 4.8, 4.11, 5.2.1, 5.4, 6.1, and 6.2. Oh, and a couple Linux, NetBSD, and Solaris boxen too. I prefer not to chase versions on high load production equipment, certainly not as a problem resolution strategy. For the record, I have never had an blind upgrade fix an unidentified problem, and if it did I would be very worried. I would guess memory, at least that is where I would look first. I would also wonder what environment the server runs in, heat is a killer, so is vibration. Loose racks and humming floors can and will cause connections to slip. I have fixed servers that ran for months and suddenly showed odd behavior simply by powering down and removing all cards/ram/cables, then reattaching everything. Mysterious failures, 3000 miles to the console, I don't envy you ;^) DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 22:14:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8672A16A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074AD13C441 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1SMEGZu043664; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l1SMEGk6043663; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:14:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Thomas Dickey Message-ID: <20070228221415.GA38946@thought.org> References: <20070228035543.GA77041@thought.org> <45E52EFE.9000301@dir.bg> <45E592D2.6010003@u.washington.edu> <20070228203749.GA25931@saltmine.radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070228203749.GA25931@saltmine.radix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:14:18 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:37:49PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:33:54AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > Jordan Gordeev wrote: > > >Gary Kline wrote: > > >> I'm not sure whether this just in Ubuntu or in the Gnome desktop > ... > > >> servers. I thought I'd ask here before I dig into this. I think > > >> a new xterm was recently updated in ports; not sure if tat is a > > >> factor or not. > > no (I don't recall making changes in that area). > > > >See stty(1) and termios(4). You should modify the erase or erase2 values. > > reasonable (Ubuntu uses Debian packages iirc, which makes it use DEL, > FreeBSD uses BS for erase, etc). > > > The terminal settings available from gnome (if you open up an xterm / > > Gnome terminal shell using the Terminal command under the menu) has > > gnome-terminal isn't xterm (OP isn't making that distinction either). > > xterm has menu settings which can change the assignment of BS/DEL to the > "backspace" key (unlike gnome-terminal, it has a manpage describing these > details ;-). > Yeah... reading (and messing with) this new stuff is an education. Actually, I was using KDE's "Konsole" term, not Gnome. With the Gnome version of xterm, vi behaves as-usual; with Konsole, nope. Unless I'm missing some fine print, I didn't see a way of fixing. stty in Konsole says that things are correct--that backspace = ^H and so on. It may be that the child proc doesn't inherit the stty setting with thr KDE term whereas it does with Gnome's. Solution:: go back to Gnome. If anybody has other ideas, please lemmee know! gary > -- > Thomas E. Dickey > http://invisible-island.net > ftp://invisible-island.net -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 18:03:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292E116A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from electrics_de@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de (fmmailgate04.web.de [217.72.192.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E639C13C442 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from electrics_de@web.de) Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 76E9E94699B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:11:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.80.4.175] by freemailng1605.web.de with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:11:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:11:35 +0100 Message-Id: <1655194515@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: electrics_de@web.de To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: fm-user Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:14:36 +0000 Cc: Subject: Question for FreeBSD (PPPoE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:03:23 -0000 Dear Sirs, dear Madams I want like to have a DSL-Connection over PPP over Ethernet on a FreeBSD s= ystem Version 4.8 and 6.2 with LAN. How do I have to install this=3F Which ways exist to install a DSL-Connectio= n on a FreeBSD system=3F Thank you for your answer. Best regards Stefan Dumler =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= Erweitern Sie FreeMail zu einem noch leistungsst=E4rkeren E-Mail-Postfach! =09 Mehr Infos unter http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/=3Fmc=3D021131 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 22:20:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE6516A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D34AD13C47E for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 73133 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2007 22:20:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2007 22:20:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: maZ_XWcVM1nBM4MfSD1WcSpCDQXWWqFwsh8CYwObJelIwlpIHuhgjq935I1QEKC4zA-- Message-ID: <45E60042.90000@hier7.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:20:50 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <1655194515@web.de> In-Reply-To: <1655194515@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Question for FreeBSD (PPPoE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:20:49 -0000 Hello Stefan, Have you checked the FreeBSD Handbook? It can answer most of these sorts of questions. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html - Chris electrics_de@web.de wrote: > Dear Sirs, dear Madams > > I want like to have a DSL-Connection over PPP over Ethernet on a FreeBSD system Version 4.8 and 6.2 with LAN. > > How do I have to install this? Which ways exist to install a DSL-Connection on a FreeBSD system? > > Thank you for your answer. > > Best regards > > Stefan Dumler > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Erweitern Sie FreeMail zu einem noch leistungsstärkeren E-Mail-Postfach! > Mehr Infos unter http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/?mc=021131 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 22:39:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150E816A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF14113C48D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-68-49-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([68.49.149.185] helo=schnarff.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMXSf-000HNF-G2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:39:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 2704 invoked by uid 67); 28 Feb 2007 22:39:48 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.68 ([192.168.2.68]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:39:48 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 68.49.149.185 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: schnarff Message-ID: <20070228173948.dwb7tptigo00sgc8@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:39:48 -0500 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070228122108.bhd56o5wn4ss8c4g@mail.schnarff.com> <20070228163430.V12239@familysquires.net> In-Reply-To: <20070228163430.V12239@familysquires.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Cc: "Michael L. Squires" , Jean Lagarde Subject: Re: Stability Issues on 5.4-RELEASE Box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:39:51 -0000 > I'm not running your application mix, but I've never seen random reboots > unless there were hardware issues. With 5.X these included having > hyperthreading turned on, which I know caused problems with my dual XEON > system. Hmmm...two answers so far, two people saying "hyperthreading can be an issue." I'll definitely have that turned off ASAP. >> * Issues with files that are not found on startup sometimes, but are >> other times. Prime example: the Zope CMS system that's been >> installed failed to find libmysqlclient.so after a planned soft >> reboot, but found it with no trouble on a subsequent boot a few >> minutes later, with no config changes in between. >> > Haven't seen that; are there any messages indicating you're having > filesystem problems? Thanks for asking; I see some new nasties in /var/log/messages: Feb 27 09:05:37 www fsck: /dev/ad4s1f: PARTIALLY TRUNCATED INODE I=9397392 Feb 27 09:05:37 www fsck: /dev/ad4s1f: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. >> Thus far, besides simply scanning log files, constantly watching >> "top" and "ps", etc., I've not been able to do much with the box. As >> I said, I upgraded OpenSSL/OpenSSH to current versions, and I >> installed pf as the firewall (there was none before I >> arrived...don't even get me started on that). This weekend the guy >> who was the previous admin will be running a Memtest for me and >> disabling hyperthreading (which there's no performance justification >> for, and which has caused me stability issues at least on Linux in >> the past), since the server is in Oregon and I'm in the DC area. >> That's about the extent of what I've been able to do to date, since >> this is a production box. >> > > How did you upgrade OpenSSL/SSH - cvsup + buildworld, etc., from the > ports, or some other way? I've always did this using cvsup since > OpenSSL/SSH is now built into the OS From source on openssl.org and openssh.org. I'm not yet familiar with all of the cool helper things that FreeBSD has such as cvsup, and I was conerned about getting those two specifically fixed fast when I first started this task (as the version on there was old enough that there were known remote exploits). >> * Does 5.4-RELEASE have any known bugs that might cause stability >> issues like the ones I've described here? More importantly, would an >> upgrade to 6.2-RELEASE be worthwhile (as is my instinct), in terms >> of being generally more stable and/or having better hardware >> support? Would such an upgrade be possible/relatively painless to >> perform without being physically at a console, as has been the case >> with OpenBSD over the years? >> > > I am not running your mix, but I have a 4.11 box, a 5.5-STABLE box, and a > 6.2-STABLE box, and haven't seen anything like this. the 4.11 box looks a > lot like yours - Supermicro P4DC6 with dual Xeons, RAID1 with the onboard > Adaptec controller + the add-in RAID board, RAID5 using vinum with an > Adaptec (39160?) board. 5.X plus hyperthreading was definitely a problem > with that system. I have another similar box which I'm testing with > 6.2-STABLE and haven't seen any problems yet. Again, since the two answers I have so far say essentially the same thing here, it looks like my concerns about hardware are valid. >> * Given my dmesg below, do you see any specific problems? > > The interrupt storm on uhci1+ is not a good thing. Any thoughts on how to fix it? Thanks, Alex Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 22:44:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B46A16A404 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E987713C491 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1SMi822003942; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:44:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <45E605B7.8060001@sonicboom.org> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:44:07 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Nielsen References: <200702281502.35926.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200702281502.35926.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dwight Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:44:12 -0000 John Nielsen wrote: > On Wednesday 28 February 2007 14:26, Dwight Smith wrote: > >> My name is Dwight Smith, and I only had a question or two in terms of the >> future useability of FreeBSD. I have used it on and off and found it to be >> a great UNIX operating system for servers, but my only major concern was >> the amount of time it takes to prepare a server such as an Apache Server >> with PHP and MySQL support as opposed to a Linux system which is what I am >> currently using now as well as my company. I guess my question is that will >> the ease of building or installing software for FreeBSD ever streamline to >> where you do not have to do as many steps and text config file entries? >> > > If you don't need any customizations, "pkg_add -r packagename" will > automatically download and install almost everything available in the ports > system. It will even get the newest version appropriate for the version of > FreeBSD you are running. > > If you prefer to compile from source or need a non-default setting, going into > the relevant directory in the ports tree and typing "make install clean" will > again do everything automatically. In most cases the same command will also > present you with an easy-to-use menu of options available for the port, if > any. > > Which of those one-line commands strikes you as being less than easy from the > point of view of a systems administrator, developer, technical end-user or > Computer Coordinator? > > If you have concerns about a specific piece of software, sending a message to > this or another appropriate list or directly to the port's maintainer will > typically yield good information, and if you have ideas for improvements they > should be well received in the appropriate forum. > > >> What had me curious to asking this is this article I read about a review on >> FreeBSD 6.2 (http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/67/) The >> reviewer had a lot of criticisms that seemed harsh, but at the same time >> raised some valid points. I only ask this question as I would like to see >> FreeBSD get the same recognition as Linux as FreeBSD is a powerful OS that >> should not be overshadowed and I hope it doesn't cause it saved my IT job >> many a times when a server crashes and I have to piece together an old PII >> with 32 MB RAM and install FreeBSD with Samba. So thanks in advance for >> your attention in this and I wish all of you the best. >> > > My initial take on that review is that the reviewer had an earlier bad > experience with FreeBSD (perhaps as a result of failing to understand that > 5.0 and 5.1 were developer preview releases), tried installing 6.2 once on a > single system, ran down his pre-existing checklist of complaints to see if > any of them had magically been fixed (as a result, perhaps, of the FreeBSD > developer community reading his mind and finding themselves in agreement), > did little if any troubleshooting of the hardware compatibility issues he > mentioned (even reporting such occurences is a good way to contribute to a > volunteer-based project), and wrote the whole thing off as being stagnant. > > Some of his points and recommendations might have merit, but many seem to be > the writer's wishlist for making FreeBSD into something it isn't (some hybrid > of Gentoo and Fedora, perhaps). That and his general attitude of hopeless > negativism[1] make it hard to take his review seriously. > > Personally, FreeBSD 6.2 is the best OS I have ever used and I find it > extremely well-suited to my needs and tastes for both server and desktop use. > The only way to see if that is the case for you is to try it (again). If > there are shortcomings, be proactive about reporting them. FreeBSD's user > community is one of its biggest strengths. > > JN > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you use pkg_add -r then a sunsequent cvsup or portsnap, followed by portupgrade is advised. I have seen it happen often where the package is older than the port. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 22:52:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517A016A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD4D13C461 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so248883ugh for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:52:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=FvwcaWK591ElFWB9B/YBraR/U4Oa+63aqunKJTACXpl8ddPUpIKSugIlASC0fu35bECZtZabtiuiqmbZvkfIq3al9j2jPuO+HXTq9W44gdt1uNhckmQe6H8zRy//3gurfSRTXrcuKHwcVLzuEOD+s3xxXBNLo1ZGt0NKfUsdzxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=s4C+nnULBXeVyZenx3AW8ttEUdt+NZbaT5ZIGp7/mrg8iWkNrlbQxts9XNMzNcfik9lQTt1GKCs8g5k0g50j2Tv4JzZ3p5Yc+lvs7rgaj2mLOI7KEb7ZAY/HhHPb2/NlyGnh1+O0TWte+HIIuBcdO1kKVHqQE0LpCyrEOG+HB+A= Received: by 10.78.195.9 with SMTP id s9mr95139huf.1172703158578; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.17.18 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:52:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:52:38 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NBU & Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:52:40 -0000 Has anyone ever run Net Backup under Linux emulation? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:05:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F1016A401 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51106.mail.yahoo.com (web51106.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A792113C474 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 55659 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2007 23:05:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=aJb1FHpcktq1hNuZ7Bk+pFew4X0VK/eB7GyynxHO1YyudHQoAERL0p9oS2kS9M0FxUk+A3hd2fIc6pNaKOyT/gJO/QRUDEj7SClzD0lPPs0qmbVqLGYTEyy/YtfXs51RaQqZ/eIGD01jSDvSQMbkXXQd7FzD5xHWGGXmAWnOcbk=; X-YMail-OSG: LEbcRYcVM1my1v7eN0L96vzkXGmZcW9zyKu4pXE9kkGJRY38TCdMyYTNEaAcPNHU1ybjDOVzjaIZBIl9yQCTLncvt.jjEU0L_KOQ1jnQApOkvDctT9XYB4zVZkrxUDcx9NCKIVSbAKIULnCzSeKBcH1Jgg-- Received: from [82.170.181.144] by web51106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:05:01 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/468 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:05:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <60514.55113.qm@web51106.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: tweaking kern.ipc.shmmax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:05:05 -0000 Hi peeps,=0A=0AI have a amd64 system running freebsd6.1 with 3 GB ram. I wa= nt to use this a s my primary reserach database and installed postgresql on= it. There they are talking about increasing some shared buffers value.=0A= =0AHowever, if I do increase that shared buffer value to even 64MB (while I= hoped to increase it up to 256MB), in the var/log/messages file I get this= error:=0A=0AFeb 28 23:43:09 zouk postgres[826]: [1-1] FATAL: could not cr= eate shared memory segment: Cannot allocate memory=0AFeb 28 23:43:09 zouk p= ostgres[826]: [1-2] DETAIL: Failed system call was shmget(key=3D5432001, s= ize=3D71942144, 03600).=0AFeb 28 23:43:09 zouk postgres[826]: [1-3] HINT: = This error usually means that PostgreSQL's request for a shared memory segm= ent exceeded available memory or swap space.=0AFeb 28 23:43:09 zouk postgre= s[826]: [1-4] To reduce the request size (currently 71942144 bytes), reduc= e PostgreSQL's shared_buffers parameter (currently 8192) and/or its=0AFeb 2= 8 23:43:09 zouk postgres[826]: [1-5] max_connections parameter (currently = 3).=0AFeb 28 23:43:09 zouk postgres[826]: [1-6] The PostgreSQL docume= ntation contains more information about shared memory configuration.=0A=0A= =0AHowever, look at the values I have put in my /etc/rc.conf file:=0A=0Asys= ctl -w kern.ipc.shmmax=3D1954311424=0Asysctl -w kern.ipc.shmall=3D16384=0A= =0AI don't understand why the value that seems smaller, 71942144, doesn't f= it in the shmmax value.=0A=0ACan anyone be of assistance? Do I need to rebu= ild my kernel? Someone advised in 2006 that these value should be in your k= ernel:=0A options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=3D201=0Aoptions KVA_PAGE= S=3D260=0A=0AThe fact is that tha both are not in my current kernel, but ev= en if they did, I wouldn't know which values to give them.=0ACan anyone hel= p me out?=0A=0AThanks=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________= ____________________________________________________=0AAny questions? Get a= nswers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:13:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2369116A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp2.utdallas.edu (smtp2.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0923813C428 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714DB5C3D1 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:13:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:12:58 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========677771D85C7F5ADCF636==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:13:03 -0000 --==========677771D85C7F5ADCF636========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'd like to cron a process that looks at a certain folder every day and=20 changes the perms on a directory if they aren't what I want.=20 Unfortunately, the people creating the folders are Windows folks using=20 WinSCP, and so they create folders with spaces in them. (E.g. Day 1, Day=20 2, etc.) I thought I could just do this: chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d` but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously)=20 doesn't work. >From the cli, find returns the actual directory name. How can I get find to return the dirs correctly in a script? Or is there=20 some other way to do this that would work? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========677771D85C7F5ADCF636==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:16:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A980716A40D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6567A13C4C1 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (localhost.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1SNGZG8074376 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:16:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@just.puresimplicity.net) Received: (from hemi@localhost) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l1SNGZor074375; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:16:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:16:35 -0600 From: Josh Tolbert To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (just.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:16:35 -0600 (CST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:16:36 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:12:58PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'd like to cron a process that looks at a certain folder every day and > changes the perms on a directory if they aren't what I want. > Unfortunately, the people creating the folders are Windows folks using > WinSCP, and so they create folders with spaces in them. (E.g. Day 1, Day > 2, etc.) > > I thought I could just do this: > chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d` > > but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously) > doesn't work. > > >From the cli, find returns the actual directory name. > > How can I get find to return the dirs correctly in a script? Or is there > some other way to do this that would work? > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) find /path/to/dirs -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755 Thanks, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:33:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3906116A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA41213C474 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] ([192.168.10.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1SNXBMN002699 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:33:12 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E6113A.2060500@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:33:14 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Tolbert References: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> In-Reply-To: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:33:17 -0000 Josh Tolbert wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:12:58PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I'd like to cron a process that looks at a certain folder every day and >> changes the perms on a directory if they aren't what I want. >> Unfortunately, the people creating the folders are Windows folks using >> WinSCP, and so they create folders with spaces in them. (E.g. Day 1, Day >> 2, etc.) >> >> I thought I could just do this: >> chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d` >> >> but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously) >> doesn't work. >> >> >From the cli, find returns the actual directory name. >> >> How can I get find to return the dirs correctly in a script? Or is there >> some other way to do this that would work? >> >> Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > > find /path/to/dirs -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755 > or just find /path/to/dirs -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; should do it. > Thanks, > > Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:39:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFC716A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907E113C442 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn07.u.washington.edu (hymn07.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.53]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1SNdgD5029840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:39:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn07.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1SNdfGr026200 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:39:41 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn07.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:39:41 PST Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:39:41 -0800 (PST) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070228203749.GA25931@saltmine.radix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.28.152433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:39:42 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:33:54AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> Jordan Gordeev wrote: >>> Gary Kline wrote: >>>> I'm not sure whether this just in Ubuntu or in the Gnome desktop > ... >>>> servers. I thought I'd ask here before I dig into this. I think >>>> a new xterm was recently updated in ports; not sure if tat is a >>>> factor or not. > > no (I don't recall making changes in that area). > >>> See stty(1) and termios(4). You should modify the erase or erase2 values. > > reasonable (Ubuntu uses Debian packages iirc, which makes it use DEL, > FreeBSD uses BS for erase, etc). > >> The terminal settings available from gnome (if you open up an xterm / >> Gnome terminal shell using the Terminal command under the menu) has > > gnome-terminal isn't xterm (OP isn't making that distinction either). > > xterm has menu settings which can change the assignment of BS/DEL to the > "backspace" key (unlike gnome-terminal, it has a manpage describing these > details ;-). > > -- > Thomas E. Dickey > http://invisible-island.net > ftp://invisible-island.net You can set the default terminal in gnome to be xterm instead of Gnome Terminal. Gnome then wraps xterm in a program they call "Terminal" which you can setup to your liking using the preferences accessible from the menu. That's what I meant. Just relaying my experience because I had a similar problem recently with Suse. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:49:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA4016A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B83513C478 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so700942nfc for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:49:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=sIn+dzjTwubr3aB7n8LjtZvFx9+tlMPSCnp7T/lh0Ld78PijRmnWFl3jXaG3oCtHb1UYB6dD6DT0BTiugmZ+YLaVHfrFSukJ1IdWGnxBte/5aXQlHvCC3kgRiqmzrtUObpnOC5fJHPLKqBJC4RfyW29itOfiTF2l1FIY3d+9kjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nhYOFYwPOfvfsMy2VGifb5tn6kBQtsT02EqE2Ez8VfpK57Td6PpYGVqGQVdIOgEcMl6dMSBo0t+TYO99kWkdhCWqpPMCWFiM/AsPKg18cVAujBiVmbXfzmOHy1JPZc12XH+gKGY9RL2h2/Qqv55H/DIE2TwP7PiGEUOzCiTkKck= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr436891bue.1172706577357; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.191.16 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:49:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20702281549g1961cc2cxf627780d3c78511e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:49:37 +0000 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Asking for bugs instead of about them, for a change. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:49:39 -0000 I'm wokring on a project to add to the handbook, on debugging port installs that fail, when it's trivially user fixable. However, I haven't collected all of my error messages from broken port installs I've had. Would it be possible to have some people mail me (unless someone says otherwise, directly, so as not to clutter the list), port build errors related to either [a] broken dependancy relations or [b] overly-agressive CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS The last 50 to 100 lines should be more than sufficient. What I really need is [a] A copy of the relevant parts of the make.conf file (CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/CPUTYPE) [b] the entire dependancy trace (the list of ports that the system is backtracking out of), and the last 15 to 20 lines of the actual build (be it the configuration steps, the compilation commands, etc). Also nice would be [c] How you fixed it or plan to fix it. Thank you, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:52:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CABA16A402 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.vnet.sk (mail.vnet.sk [217.73.28.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C176813C4AA for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.vnet.sk [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vnet.sk (VNETMail) with ESMTP id 253841A7C519 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:52:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vnet.sk Received: from mail.vnet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.vnet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id WahPTt1hsTbf for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:52:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from danger-PC.mshome.net (unknown [217.73.23.230]) by mail.vnet.sk (VNETMail) with ESMTP id 512221A7C503 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:52:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:51:57 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <653028165.20070301005157@rulez.sk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:52:06 -0000 Hello pf, I'm having the following problem: db2# pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF Exit 1 db2# uname -srm FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Feb 28 23:47:39 CET 2007 amd64 pf related items in kernel: device pf device pflog -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:53:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B8D16A407 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF12013C49D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1SNrfNL096548; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:53:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l1SNrf85096547; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:53:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:53:41 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: youshi10@u.washington.edu Message-ID: <20070228235341.GA88385@thought.org> References: <20070228203749.GA25931@saltmine.radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:53:43 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:39:41PM -0800, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Thomas Dickey wrote: > [[ yelps of various sorts about "STUFF" ]] > > You can set the default terminal in gnome to be xterm instead of Gnome > Terminal. Gnome then wraps xterm in a program they call "Terminal" which > you can setup to your liking using the preferences accessible from the menu. > > That's what I meant. Just relaying my experience because I had a similar > problem recently with Suse. > > -Garrett > Too bad there isn't some sort of web database for these sorts of miscellany with tags like (vi backspace-failure term) that would aide the search and solution for these type questions. This may be one of Google's aims, but there are miles to go.... gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:57:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F7D16A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp2.utdallas.edu (smtp2.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC35B13C48D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D175C1CC for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:57:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:57:06 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <9529489268CFF4F3B1EB1452@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> References: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========B68425C5F1AD1808F2E2==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:57:06 -0000 --==========B68425C5F1AD1808F2E2========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Wednesday, February 28, 2007 17:16:35 -0600 Josh Tolbert=20 wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:12:58PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I'd like to cron a process that looks at a certain folder every day and >> changes the perms on a directory if they aren't what I want. >> Unfortunately, the people creating the folders are Windows folks using >> WinSCP, and so they create folders with spaces in them. (E.g. Day 1, >> Day 2, etc.) >> >> I thought I could just do this: >> chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d` >> >> but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously) >> doesn't work. >> >> > From the cli, find returns the actual directory name. >> >> How can I get find to return the dirs correctly in a script? Or is >> there some other way to do this that would work? > > find /path/to/dirs -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755 > Thanks, Josh. That worked exactly as I wanted. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========B68425C5F1AD1808F2E2==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 28 23:58:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218E516A400 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC16513C478 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from adsl-69-210-74-164.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net ([69.210.74.164] helo=cheyenne.sixcompanies.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMYgq-0008po-Ux; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:58:33 -0500 Received: from coors.sixcompanies.com (coors.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.5]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l1SNwWw9010146; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:58:32 -0600 (CST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 69.210.74.164 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: lonebandit Message-Id: <200702282358.l1SNwWw9010146@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:58:31 -0600 To: Daniel Gerzo From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <653028165.20070301005157@rulez.sk> References: <653028165.20070301005157@rulez.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:58:36 -0000 At 12:51 AM 3/1/2007 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote: >Hello pf, > >I'm having the following problem: > >db2# pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf >No ALTQ support in kernel >ALTQ related functions disabled >pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF >Exit 1 >db2# uname -srm >FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Feb 28 23:47:39 CET 2007 amd64 > >pf related items in kernel: > >device pf >device pflog > >-- >Best regards, any chance you have this in pf.conf: set loginterface tun0 and tun0 isnt up yet? DIOCSETSTATUSIF generally means that pfctl is trying to operate on a non-existant interface -JD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:00:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E9C16A406 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hyperconx.com) Received: from front.hyperconx.net (front.hyperconx.net [65.74.165.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC84E13C47E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hyperconx.com) Received: from adsl-69-225-224-190.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net ([69.225.224.190] helo=Production) by front.hyperconx.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.53) id 1HMXmV-0000sj-9P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:00:19 -0800 From: "Wil Hatfield" To: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:00:23 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <45E605B7.8060001@sonicboom.org> Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: HyperConX Bug-Guard AV on (front.hyperconx.net) Subject: ATA Issues Fixed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:00:19 -0000 In 6.0 and early 6.1 I started having some major issues with fatals. = After a new WD hard drive, new cables, etc and hearing of other issues I = pretty much came to the conclusion there was a bug in the OS somewhere = regarding how it was handling ATA drives and that it just hadn't been = discovered yet.=20 Could any of you that were having those nasty ATA drive issues back then = please tell me if you are pleased with 6.2 and whether those fatals went = away? Cheers, Wil Hatfield =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:00:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBDC16A40D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC2F13C481 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2100FqW067022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:00:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l2100Fmf067021; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:00:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:00:15 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jeff Mohler Message-ID: <20070301000015.GB57696@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: NBU & Linux Compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:00:32 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 28), Jeff Mohler said: > Has anyone ever run Net Backup under Linux emulation? Why would you want to, when there's a native FreeBSD client? -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:04:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDFE16A41F for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5E013C481 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (localhost.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2101DmJ074971 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:01:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@just.puresimplicity.net) Received: (from hemi@localhost) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l2101DTC074970; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:01:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:01:13 -0600 From: Josh Tolbert To: Vince Message-ID: <20070301000112.GA74875@just.puresimplicity.net> References: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> <45E6113A.2060500@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E6113A.2060500@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (just.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:01:13 -0600 (CST) Cc: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:04:20 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:33:14PM +0000, Vince wrote: > or just > find /path/to/dirs -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > should do it. Fair enough; I generally prefer the xargs method in case I have to do any more processing later. Also, xargs' batching may potentially save you a bit of time, but I doubt that'd be noticable. Thanks, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:04:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB1E16A46C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from spamfirewall.msdsky.com (spamfirewall.msdsky.com [64.18.66.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ED713C4E1 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1172706391-10f1004f0000-jLrpzn X-Barracuda-URL: http://spamfirewall.msdsky.com:80/cgi-bin/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Connect: unknown[64.18.67.9] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1172706391 Received: from mail02.msdihosting.net (unknown [64.18.67.9]) by spamfirewall.msdsky.com (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id B62721600 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ian ([70.83.204.175]) by mail02.msdihosting.net ((iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003))) with ASMTP id QRI44553 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:46:45 -0500 From: To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:46:13 -0500 Message-ID: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acdbkp0fXYo6pPBKQO6ns+Jn81T1yg== Content-Language: fr-ca x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AU+R A6zU A/US B9v4 C3uA C9Fr DA/N D7qb FoUz FvSB GGXc GLWA GNOr HHTt He49 It1q; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {FF01FD7C-0801-411C-9DD3-E2A51E4E4B3A}; bQBhAGkAbABpAG4AZwAtAGwAaQBzAHQAcwBAAG0AcwBkAGkALgBjAGEA; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:46:06 GMT; TABpAG4AdQB4ACAAIgBlAHEAdQBpAHYAYQBsAGUAbgB0ACIAIAB0AG8AIABmAHIAZQBlAGIAcwBkAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {FF01FD7C-0801-411C-9DD3-E2A51E4E4B3A} X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at msdsky.com Subject: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:04:50 -0000 Hi, Sorry this question is a little off-topic... We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are running freebsd. The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :( We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3 (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for freebsd until the end of the year... So I will need to setup a machine with linux. I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend one to me please. We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will act as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with Redhat or any commercial distribution. I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with software installation and updates and I am looking for something equivalent on a linux distribution. Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend... Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:06:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6066016A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E0F13C4B6 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn07.u.washington.edu (hymn07.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.53]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2106BIa006679 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:06:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn07.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2106Beu013389 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:06:11 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn07.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:06:11 PST Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:06:11 -0800 (PST) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070228235341.GA88385@thought.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.28.154934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:06:12 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:39:41PM -0800, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> > > [[ yelps of various sorts about "STUFF" ]] > >> >> You can set the default terminal in gnome to be xterm instead of Gnome >> Terminal. Gnome then wraps xterm in a program they call "Terminal" which >> you can setup to your liking using the preferences accessible from the menu. >> >> That's what I meant. Just relaying my experience because I had a similar >> problem recently with Suse. >> >> -Garrett >> > > > Too bad there isn't some sort of web database for these sorts of > miscellany with tags like (vi backspace-failure term) that would > aide the search and solution for these type questions. This may > be one of Google's aims, but there are miles to go.... > > gary Someone (Chuck Swiger I believe?) posted a modded .Xresources file as a solution to my terminal issue a few weeks back; it modified the behavior of Xterm to meet his needs, but it wasn't quite what I wanted/needed though. I found the gnome terminal solution, but maybe the solution he provided me would be helpful for you? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:17:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34AB16A403; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.vnet.sk (mail.vnet.sk [217.73.28.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5F113C4A5; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.vnet.sk [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vnet.sk (VNETMail) with ESMTP id A174B1A7C503; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:17:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vnet.sk Received: from mail.vnet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.vnet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id RPT-ZmnBbUD5; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:17:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from danger-PC.mshome.net (unknown [217.73.23.230]) by mail.vnet.sk (VNETMail) with ESMTP id DDB141A7C52A; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:17:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:16:36 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <408047948.20070301011636@rulez.sk> To: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <200702282358.l1SNwWw9010146@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> References: <653028165.20070301005157@rulez.sk> <200702282358.l1SNwWw9010146@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Gerzo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:17:06 -0000 Hello J.D., Thursday, March 1, 2007, 12:58:31 AM, you wrote: > At 12:51 AM 3/1/2007 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote: >>Hello pf, >> >>I'm having the following problem: >> >>db2# pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf >>No ALTQ support in kernel >>ALTQ related functions disabled >>pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF >>Exit 1 >>db2# uname -srm >>FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Feb 28 23:47:39 CET 2007 amd64 >> >>pf related items in kernel: >> >>device pf >>device pflog >> > any chance you have this in pf.conf: > set loginterface tun0 > and tun0 isnt up yet? > DIOCSETSTATUSIF generally means that pfctl is trying to operate on a > non-existant interface ah, thanks! I had a typo in the ext_if macro re0/rl0 :-) > -JD -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:20:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D58316A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hyperconx.com) Received: from front.hyperconx.net (front.hyperconx.net [65.74.165.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5161113C461 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hyperconx.com) Received: from adsl-69-225-224-190.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net ([69.225.224.190] helo=Production) by front.hyperconx.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.53) id 1HMZ1P-0001ET-D4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:19:47 -0800 From: "Wil Hatfield" To: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:19:51 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: HyperConX Bug-Guard AV on (front.hyperconx.net) Subject: RE: ATA Issues Fixed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:20:02 -0000 > In 6.0 and early 6.1 I started having some major issues with=20 > fatals. After a new WD hard drive, new cables, etc and hearing of=20 > other issues I pretty much came to the conclusion there was a bug=20 > in the OS somewhere regarding how it was handling ATA drives and=20 > that it just hadn't been discovered yet.=20 >=20 > Could any of you that were having those nasty ATA drive issues=20 > back then please tell me if you are pleased with 6.2 and whether=20 > those fatals went away? Duh! I have the flu and I think I relapsed to my MSDOS days. Replace the = word fatals above with kernel panics and maybe somebody will know what I = am talking about. Geesh sorry! Wil Hatfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:36:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5B916A406 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7757213C48E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EF51F3B16 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:36:05 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: lYax9j7JAxhChgCR1rZuTss4g1WmYEcBX/CtRgkSFkgJ 1172709363 Received: from [192.168.1.249] (unknown [205.246.14.237]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EFF210FE for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:36:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45E61FCA.1010507@fastmail.fm> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:35:22 -0600 From: Patrick Bowen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> In-Reply-To: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:36:06 -0000 mailing-lists@msdi.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry this question is a little off-topic... > > We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are running > freebsd. > > The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :( > > We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3 > (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for > freebsd until the end of the year... > > So I will need to setup a machine with linux. > > I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend one to > me please. > > We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will act > as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and > upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with Redhat > or any commercial distribution. > > I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with > software installation and updates and I am looking for something equivalent > on a linux distribution. > > Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check > ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend... > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Take a look at Slackware. http://www.slackware.com Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:36:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4476A16A413 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shigeaki@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp) Received: from condor.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp (condor.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp [133.41.33.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF42D13C4BD for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shigeaki@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (maroon.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp [192.168.128.148]) by condor.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp with ESMTP id l210aIku001627; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:36:19 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <45E62002.7040202@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:36:18 +0900 From: Shigeaki Tagashira User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Palle Girgensohn References: 458956C6.6080004@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp <45CBCB98.8010607@dbsoft.org> <45D256F2.4040702@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> <45D5FD47.70807@dbsoft.org> <3639ECF5698F244F67123FCD@rambutan.pingpong.net> In-Reply-To: <3639ECF5698F244F67123FCD@rambutan.pingpong.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Brian Smith Subject: Re: if_nfe on nVidia chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:36:45 -0000 Hello, sorry for my late response. Please try to disable checksum offload. --- Shigeaki Tagashira Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi! > > Just discovered a problem that seems to be related to the if_nfe module. > > When trying a java applet from firefox, the computer reproducibly hang > completely, or at least disappears from the network. (We run NIS and > NFS, so a machine without a network is in fact hung... :) > > The applet is rather resource demanding, it seems, but nothing out of > the ordinary - the URL is > . > Directing firefox to that url reproducably kills the computer, and the > same page with another network (slower) card will not hang the computer. > > Here's the rather quiet log from messages: > > > Feb 19 13:41:47 apelsin kernel: nfe0: watchdog timeout (missed Tx > interrupts) -- recovering > Feb 19 13:41:57 apelsin kernel: nfe0: watchdog timeout (missed Tx > interrupts) -- recovering > Feb 19 13:42:03 apelsin /usr/sbin/ypbind[800]: NIS server > [192.168.1.184] for domain "Musik" not responding > Feb 19 13:42:34 apelsin last message repeated 31 times > Feb 19 13:44:35 apelsin last message repeated 121 times > Feb 19 13:45:28 apelsin last message repeated 53 times > Feb 19 13:45:29 apelsin kernel: nfe0: watchdog timeout (missed Tx > interrupts) -- recovering > Feb 19 13:45:29 apelsin /usr/sbin/ypbind[800]: NIS server > [192.168.1.184] for domain "Musik" not responding > Feb 19 13:47:59 apelsin syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel > Feb 19 13:47:59 apelsin kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD > Project. > Feb 19 13:47:59 apelsin kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, > 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > Feb 19 13:47:59 apelsin kernel: The Regents of the University of > California. All rights reserved. > Feb 19 13:47:59 apelsin kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The > FreeBSD Foundation. > Feb 19 13:47:59 apelsin kernel: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #3: Wed Feb 14 > 09:12:35 CET 2007 > > reset button was hit around 13:46... > > IS i > --On fredag, februari 16, 2007 12.51.51 -0600 Brian Smith > wrote: > >> Shigeaki Tagashira wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Please try to use generic PHY driver (ukphy) instead of e1000phy; >>> i.e., use nfe without the patch for e1000phy. >> I've switched to FreeBSD 7 and I think the e100phy.c patches are already >> in the source tree? >> >> Is there an unpatched version for FreeBSD 7? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Brian > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:42:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A72C16A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shigeaki@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp) Received: from condor.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp (condor.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp [133.41.33.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4E913C474 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shigeaki@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (maroon.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp [192.168.128.148]) by condor.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp with ESMTP id l210gA55001674; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:42:10 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <45E62163.8050307@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:42:11 +0900 From: Shigeaki Tagashira User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Smith References: 458956C6.6080004@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp <45CBCB98.8010607@dbsoft.org> <45D256F2.4040702@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> <0DE3471FD22AB5D08E64ACD1@rambutan.pingpong.net> <45DE9BDF.402@dbsoft.org> In-Reply-To: <45DE9BDF.402@dbsoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Palle Girgensohn Subject: Re: if_nfe on nVidia chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:42:14 -0000 Hello, Could you try the latest nfe code for only 7-CURRENT in the following URL? It was overhauled by Pyun YongHyeon (yongari@). http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/nfe/if_nfe.c http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/nfe/if_nfereg.h http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/nfe/if_nfevar.h --- Shigeaki Tagashira Brian Smith wrote: > Palle Girgensohn wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Great news: I can confirm that it works fine when the e1000phy patch >> was removed on this system. I have not tried this on the system that >> *did* work fine with the patch, though. >> > I reverted to e1000phy.c 1.17 and e1000phyreg.h 1.3 on FreeBSD 7, and it > now uses the generic driver and correctly detects the media. However > for me it still doesn't work. Keep getting: > > nfe1: watchdog timeout > > then the link goes down and back up again. > > Wish I had more time to dig around in it. > > Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:47:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAF816A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1554C13C478 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so261630ana for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:47:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=G+v87JiZHDGbEHfFQHDwQ7SGj7zHT2QNBwPNkX81zc4JOm4p90pSS3RXEkHUY2sIrxVxhylkdOg4Ubp4cR77C7BQbeqHmzB7Fg4Bk0fKQoGwWU3tRLX6UYWq2H6aPJQFleoBx7gI/rC12QJw7APrm83dONykWwdOxsXbMAK5NUM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=hiibHAASdfqHCu4HrAujjxBuxt2Ypgf6ryc42DTxa61EyHmVk/u+jKmnf8nyHhmKJlW7nKIvN9v/wnwiZamsybxymNV6diCJHEEnGtzivhni8U8n685AgiL8roFGXZkIf8ypt/NBo3H5E+/ROCLEBBjQiqtpjkRoMxOCJ/WO8Ww= Received: by 10.100.37.4 with SMTP id k4mr1101986ank.1172710075395; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.23? 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We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with Re= dhat > or any commercial distribution. >=20 > I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with > software installation and updates and I am looking for something equiva= lent > on a linux distribution. >=20 > Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've c= heck > ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...= >=20 > Thanks=20 Gentoo: http://www.gentoo.org Portage: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3D2&chap=3D1 --=20 PGP KeyID: 0xC730A079 Key fingerprint =3D F626 3C47 02F5 E43C 6620 8A1B E7A8 533B C730 A079 gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C730A079 Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix .= =2E. --------------enig7CA721D4A981057460F9B05A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF5iKz56hTO8cwoHkRAmBhAKC9N6uIV7d9D5DRmUsNuHKYB/QAggCgitzK NCo8CXJ33j59wu6F8JqQTn4= =mxbb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7CA721D4A981057460F9B05A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 00:52:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4233816A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s32.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF2713C4A7 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.175.23]) by bay0-omc2-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:52:53 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:52:53 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.175.200 by by104fd.bay104.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:52:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.150.106.125] X-Originating-Email: [dead_line@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dead_line@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "Its Me" To: dsmith_60@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:52:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 00:52:53.0519 (UTC) FILETIME=[F19FD1F0:01C75B9B] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:52:54 -0000 Dwight! What ! How! Installing FreeBSD takes flat 3 minutes!!! after i'm done, I do install the ports, with 2 more minutes!! Then from ports Tree I just command "make install clean" for Apache PHP5 webmin, lynx-ssl radius and few more ports, like pop3 and others.. PLUS!! i configure it as a gateway, for my datalink routers (wan branches) and lan GW, plus upgrading to latest patches..and adding few routes.. it takes, few hours, infact around 3 max! If I dunt upgrade the system it takes 1 hour only! so i dunt know how more easy you want it to be! Oh, forgot to tell you, i have a freebsd server thats working since year 2000!! till today! plus few others. The review you pointed us to, is just totally unprofessional one. Marwan Sultan System Administrator. >From: "Dwight Smith" >Good morning, > >My name is Dwight Smith, and I only had a question or two in terms of the >future useability of FreeBSD. I have used it on and off and found it to be >a great UNIX operating system for servers, but my only major concern was >the amount of time it takes to prepare a server such as an Apache Server >with PHP and MySQL support as opposed to a Linux system which is what I am >currently using now as well as my company. I guess my question is that will >the ease of building or installing software for FreeBSD ever streamline to >where you do not have to do as many steps and text config file entries? >What had me curious to asking this is this article I read about a review on >FreeBSD 6.2 (http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/67/) The >reviewer had a lot of criticisms that seemed harsh, but at the same time >raised some valid points. I only ask this question as I would like to see >FreeBSD get the same recognition as Linux as FreeBSD is a powerful OS that >should not be overshadowed and I hope it doesn't cause it saved my IT job >many a times when a server crashes and I have to piece together an old PII >with 32 MB RAM and install FreeBSD with Samba. So thanks in advance for >your attention in this and I wish all of you the best. > >Sincerely, > >Dwight Smith _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 01:02:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA6316A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEBF13C46B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (69-12-157-6.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [69.12.157.6]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l2112Mo2012575 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:02:22 -0800 From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:02:22 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702281702.22326.odilist@sonic.net> Subject: RAID failure with READ_DMA status=51 - how to avoid again? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:02:22 -0000 I would like to RAID my system but am wondering if I am asking for trouble, given that I got some kind of read failure error followed by file system corruption the first time I did it. Would it be reasonable for me to try RAIDing again, and if so, under what conditions? Details are as follows: I moved my home FreeBSD 6.0 system, which had previously been on a single IDE drive, onto two SATA drives (set to 3.0 G) in a RAID-1 array, with hardware raid (Nvidia) on the motherboard (ASUS A8N-E). I used dump as instructed in the FreeBSD FAQ. This went okay. I then installed a third, large (400GB) SATA drive and backed up the system on the RAID (minus /proc, /tmp, and so on) to it using rdiff-backup. This seemed to go OK. Then, when I shut down immediately afterwards, I saw this: Feb 27 08:43:19 bsd kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=146193935 Feb 27 08:43:19 bsd kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. RAID1 array in DEGRADED mode Feb 27 08:43:19 bsd kernel: ar0: writing of nVidia MediaShield metadata is NOT supported yet I rebooted, the message from the bios that the RAID was healthy came up, but FreeBSD said the file system was not healthy, and I had to run fsck about five times for it to come up clean. The system booted to desktop, crashed after about ten seconds, rebooted, and turned up with a dirty filesytem again. I have since dismantled RAID, removed one of the SATA drives, fsck'ed repeatedly, and then reinstalled KDE, figuring that that as it only crashed when it had finished loading the desktop, that something might be amiss there. The system is running again. All the drives are brand new, as is the cabling. The drives show up in messages as "SATA150" (is 3.0G not supported in FreeBSD?), although the board supports 3.0G transfer rates. There is an errata sheet in the motherboard manual with a matrix indicating on which drive, given multiple SATA drives, the OS should be installed. It's silent on why this is advised and on the subject of the proper order if RAID is involved. Extended offline SMART test on the current drive with smartctl completed without error and overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED. Thanks in advance for any advice. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 01:06:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752B016A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD4D13C467 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC4E1F45DC for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:06:41 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: wNt9vbvNDjmeRZeoIfvdHMKwUytFE4Rix3wviutkHGYR 1172711199 Received: from [192.168.1.249] (unknown [205.246.14.237]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC77235EB for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:06:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45E626F9.6010701@fastmail.fm> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:06:01 -0600 From: Patrick Bowen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> <45E61FCA.1010507@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <45E61FCA.1010507@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:06:41 -0000 Patrick Bowen wrote: > mailing-lists@msdi.ca wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Sorry this question is a little off-topic... >> >> We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are >> running >> freebsd. >> >> The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial >> support :( >> >> We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3 >> (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available >> for >> freebsd until the end of the year... >> >> So I will need to setup a machine with linux. >> >> I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend >> one to >> me please. >> >> We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, >> will act >> as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and >> upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with >> Redhat >> or any commercial distribution. >> >> I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with >> software installation and updates and I am looking for something >> equivalent >> on a linux distribution. >> >> Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've >> check >> ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend... >> >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > Take a look at Slackware. > > http://www.slackware.com > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Sorry, my bad. Slackware doesn't support amd64 extensions. However, there is a an unofficial port of Slackware to amd64 at http://slamd64.com/home.html. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 01:20:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F7616A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russell.wood@rac.com.au) Received: from maserati.rac.com.au (maserati.rac.com.au [61.88.37.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8D113C47E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russell.wood@rac.com.au) Received: from mazda.rac.com.au ([172.16.5.50]) by audi.rac.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:20:12 +0900 Received: from mercury.rac.com.au ([172.16.5.42]) by mazda.rac.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:20:12 +0900 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:20:11 +0900 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RAID failure with READ_DMA status=51 - how to avoid again? thread-index: AcdbnWss5R+NMqQMSOqfJ/fSxnYOoAAAhSyQ From: "Wood, Russell" To: "Oliver Iberien" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 01:20:12.0293 (UTC) FILETIME=[C268E350:01C75B9F] X-imss-version: 2.046 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scanInfo: M:P L:E SM:0 X-imss-tmaseResult: TT:0 TS:0.0000 TC:00 TRN:0 TV:3.6.1039(15026.001) X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.1500 0.1500) Cc: Subject: RE: RAID failure with READ_DMA status=51 - how to avoid again? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:20:15 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Iberien > Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2007 10:02 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RAID failure with READ_DMA status=3D51 - how to avoid again? >=20 > I would like to RAID my system but am wondering if I am asking for > trouble, > given that I got some kind of read failure error followed by file system > corruption the first time I did it. Would it be reasonable for me to try > RAIDing again, and if so, under what conditions? Details are as follows: >=20 > I moved my home FreeBSD 6.0 system, which had previously been on a single > IDE > drive, onto two SATA drives (set to 3.0 G) in a RAID-1 array, with > hardware > raid (Nvidia) on the motherboard (ASUS A8N-E). I used dump as instructed > in > the FreeBSD FAQ. This went okay. >=20 > I then installed a third, large (400GB) SATA drive and backed up the > system on > the RAID (minus /proc, /tmp, and so on) to it using rdiff-backup. This > seemed > to go OK. >=20 > Then, when I shut down immediately afterwards, I saw this: > Feb 27 08:43:19 bsd kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ_DMA > status=3D51 > error=3D40 LBA=3D146193935 > Feb 27 08:43:19 bsd kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. RAID1 > array > in DEGRADED mode > Feb 27 08:43:19 bsd kernel: ar0: writing of nVidia MediaShield metadata is > NOT > supported yet >=20 > I rebooted, the message from the bios that the RAID was healthy came up, > but > FreeBSD said the file system was not healthy, and I had to run fsck about > five times for it to come up clean. The system booted to desktop, crashed > after about ten seconds, rebooted, and turned up with a dirty filesytem > again. >=20 > I have since dismantled RAID, removed one of the SATA drives, fsck'ed > repeatedly, and then reinstalled KDE, figuring that that as it only > crashed > when it had finished loading the desktop, that something might be amiss > there. The system is running again. >=20 > All the drives are brand new, as is the cabling. The drives show up in > messages as "SATA150" (is 3.0G not supported in FreeBSD?), although the > board > supports 3.0G transfer rates. There is an errata sheet in the motherboard > manual with a matrix indicating on which drive, given multiple SATA > drives, > the OS should be installed. It's silent on why this is advised and on the > subject of the proper order if RAID is involved. Extended offline SMART > test > on the current drive with smartctl completed without error and overall- > health > self-assessment test result: PASSED. Thanks in advance for any advice. >=20 > Oliver I would suggest downloading FreeSBIE, booting from it and running a dd on your drives to see if it picks up any bad sectors: dd if=3D/dev/adN of=3D/dev/null bs=3D1m conv=3Dnoerror Regards, Russell Wood DISCLAIMER: Disclaimer. This e-mail is private and confidential. If you are not the = intended recipient, please advise us by return e-mail immediately, and = delete the e-mail and any attachments without using or disclosing the = contents in any way. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 01:45:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6CD16A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdgrills@the-grills.com) Received: from sccrmhc15.comcast.net (sccrmhc15.comcast.net [63.240.77.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FD913C4B6 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdgrills@the-grills.com) Received: from srv2.the-grills.com (failure[68.60.243.64]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with SMTP id <2007030101452601500fcl8qe>; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:45:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 39604 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Mar 2007 01:44:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:44:05 -0600 From: "Kelly D. Grills" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070301014405.GA39497@the-grills.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> <20070228120136.C46523@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070228120136.C46523@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/6.2-RELEASE (i386) X-PGP-Key: mailto:kdgrills-pgpkey@the-grills.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: pkg_add problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:45:27 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 12:02:30PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 > there is no such package bash. there's only bash-someversionofbashport Au contraire: [root@srv2]/ $ pkg_add -r bash Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/Latest/ba= sh.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'bash-3.1.17' or its older version already installed [root@srv2]/ $ uname -v FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jan 28 15:04:56 CST 2007 kdgrills@srv2.the-grills.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SRV2 --=20 Kelly D. Grills kdgrills@the-grills.com --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: PGP key: mailto:kdgrills-pgpkey@the-grills.com iD8DBQFF5i/l7inS5LzF7HMRAvZWAJ9Ifcg/Hw6+mCrUjiwaj1ayVk+nHgCaA0dW hGfjXo7OMHLljR0Vq+J2qWY= =b91g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 02:17:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D902A16A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985B913C461 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so454012wri for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:17:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ab81F/DJWODUY8wi5fB9xy3qsJfjvmpzUuwIfDJr36rk/r9gOWqGpfG/3PssZz/4lyRXou7pIpuBTFvvEyVHeIgj34Nrdd5XWjsLaIS7C0f+Ve9pw6n+7gfb9hjALO45WcCJiIQyTOm5FJPpy0R3uLqNhCzFU+qbiklzDsQQL7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qr/F/VnUkUQ6YT2ElY5mMh4Z7iZ6SNSSY4Jrz3le2qOUJKTTGkhd66EprDwM50IS5X/TGLV84WDKrSz7/wkH5n3j+zMhcUzIW0ZC6Yt/lYatMK0KiXXOWD22w6JEZDiBDe+b4G4bH1MkSz4hPjOL/A87ODAwbnmKQIa22qoYvPo= Received: by 10.114.75.1 with SMTP id x1mr80641waa.1172715401861; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.12 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:16:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6207f7d90702281816h749b0b7bob8fe0e8158d58924@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:41 -0500 From: "Don Munyak" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070301014405.GA39497@the-grills.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6207f7d90702271126o642bc8a9p22a334c453aac7ca@mail.gmail.com> <20070228120136.C46523@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070301014405.GA39497@the-grills.com> Subject: Re: pkg_add problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:17:03 -0000 Thanks everyone. The issue seems to be related to IPF, which I am trying to sort out. Basically when ipf is enabled, the connectivity fails, although my pass out rule for ftp includes ports 20 & 21. With ipf -D disabled, no problems. I'll probably post to a new thread after I've tried some more first. Thanks again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 02:22:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A6E16A406 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0B113C4A7 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.107]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JE700JOMD8WUZC0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:22:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml9so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.7]) by pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JE700028D8WK032@pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:22:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JE70018PD8OHD91@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:22:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 23487 invoked from network); Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:21:45 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:21:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:21:45 -0800 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> To: mailing-lists@msdi.ca Message-id: <45E638B9.1000203@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061227) Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:22:55 -0000 mailing-lists@msdi.ca wrote: > We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3 > (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for > freebsd until the end of the year... Have you tried the linux emulation layer? > Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check > ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend... I recommend FreeBSD. :-) Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 03:10:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07DD16A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 03:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8568113C491 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 03:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 90876 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2007 02:43:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=AU/qhW/qe4R61KMkS+uAIpsOWEduYmwcRzznFuBihB9sRMShiPZzSNmGUYUceEHo+vFh+I6TfFgcXUQriGxU0EvVZUY2bMVHqyWMtfufL/dHIx4mXnHPlwTudr0skCTTlJIPmbOnCV4eaoxbPnaBG2LxYJgWeDQUuYRI55ERSCE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net@75.38.49.57 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 02:43:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 42GWBjUVM1ng8RJ2pnxb9fuKUCY7JQsugyvA9LXxcQuW_W0hJSNoNy7ozxCu3nTml8HS19QS7_VHIQBv.beZ4.D.eH6ScKlh1jkB9ln228vdxq2e9wLZ96WczfkhpkgL2lr7UqUa_X0YXA-- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:43:08 -0600 From: ajm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070301024308.GA726@powerfull.bsd> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: unlisted camera in gtkam? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:10:10 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:48:54AM +0200, t nagu tundmatu wrote: > Hello to all, > > I have a problem with gtkam ? my new camera (Pentax K10D) is not supported. > I now got it listed in the menu but trying to 'add a new camera' gives a > message 'could not initialize the camera.' Is there any trick I'm missing or > is there maybe another program I can use (with the support of this camera) > or maybe a third option? > > Thanks in advance. I don't have a Pentax, but I use a memory card reader for my Olympus. I find it easier to mount, download photos then use gqview to view and gimp to edit. Just make sure you mount it with the mount_msdosfs command. Here is what I have done. In the /etc/sysctl.conf file I have the following lines: # user mounts devices vfs.usermount=1 In the /usr/local/etc/sudoers file I have the following: # Defaults specification Defaults env_reset Defaults timestamp_timeout=0 Defaults tty_tickets Defaults requiretty Defaults passwd_timeout=1 # User privilege specification user_me ALL=/sbin/umount,\ /sbin/mount_msdosfs In my home directory, I have created a directory call ~/mount/camera I am in the wheel group. The command is sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 ~/mount/camera replace the ? with your device number. I hope this helps...I am sure there are many other ways to do this. -- Alexander FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 04:29:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BCA16A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 04:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EF413C4A8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 04:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l214TZA1063507; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:29:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E656A9.2030205@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:29:29 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Its Me References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dsmith_60@hotmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:29:39 -0000 Its Me (Marwan Sultan?) wrote: > > Dwight! > > What ! How! > Installing FreeBSD takes flat 3 minutes!!! > after i'm done, I do install the ports, with 2 more minutes!! > > Then from ports Tree I just command "make install clean" > for > Apache > PHP5 > webmin, > lynx-ssl > radius > and few more ports, like pop3 and others.. > PLUS!! i configure it as a gateway, for my datalink routers (wan branches) > and lan GW, plus upgrading to latest patches..and adding few routes.. It is true that as your experience grows, you can do things like this more quickly. For the OP: examine simple shell scripting. Anything you do on the command line can be programmed to be done for you. I use sysinstall from CD and install a minimal -RELEASE quickly, and then I have shell scripts which take a few brief arguments regarding interface configuration and the server's intended use, and then: a. check for the existence of the Ports Tree and Source Tree downloading them as necessary. b. install cvsup-without-gui c. update to -STABLE, including setting vars and kernel options d. reboot e. finish update f. update ports tree g. install a selected set of ports So, most of the "work" I used to do by hand is automated - all I need to do is run "tail" on some logfiles and check my mail in the morning. (Well, "mergemaster" isn't quite automatic just yet). But, also, as Marwan indicates, I don't get to use it much - I don't have to build servers very often ;-) Lots of people have done this; perhaps the most famous is Greg Lehey's "instant-workstation" port. The reason it's not done for you: the BSD's are all about flexibility, in line with the UNIX philosophy "tools, not policy".... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 04:53:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0B616A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 04:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C436413C461 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 04:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F6D1F20C4; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:53:23 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 3ufiT3OXhQ7vBB+2c5YbQfUUAtO/+g4NEUFFghcqPK6x 1172724803 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AEB23680; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:53:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0FA190A2-CEF7-4BD1-9E09-239B398363BA@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:52:31 -0600 To: Dwight Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:53:24 -0000 On Feb 28, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Dwight Smith wrote: > I guess my question is that will the ease of building or installing > software for FreeBSD ever streamline to where you do not have to do > as many steps and text config file entries? I've recently moved back to BSD from more than a decade of linux. What I found most frustrating about the Linux distributions I've used is the multiple layers of configuration tools. There never seemed to be a single layer at which I could do everything, and these layers of admin tools would step on other layers. So for me, editing text config files is a great relief. But tastes differ. While it took me a few days to get my head round the system, I find software installation though ports more pleasant on FreeBSD then I ever did with Linux RPMs. So, I can only speak for myself and without much new experience with FreeBSD (I had used NetBSD back in 1996), but I find the software installation and configuration steps easier under FreeBSD. But maybe I and most other FreeBSD users are unusual. I've used apache from back when it was NCSA; so for me the apache configuration file is something I'm comfortable with (though it has changed a great deal over the years). Likewise for a large number of other things I may wish to run. Maybe today's sysadms aren't familiar with all of these sorts of configuration files, and so being presented with configuring them directly is daunting. And so maybe for them higher level administration tools are useful. So these people should start off with cd /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin make install It really isn't hard. > I only ask this question as I would like to see FreeBSD get the > same recognition as Linux as FreeBSD is a powerful OS that should > not be overshadowed. Well, you could talk to some venture capitalists and create a Red Hat equivalent for FreeBSD. I guess it should be called "Red Devil" if that doesn't step on too many trademarks. I don't think that FreeBSD people should be too upset that Linux happens to be the free Unix-like system that is in the limelight. It's just the way things turned out. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 05:31:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68FF16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 05:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster6.tls.net (ecluster6.tls.net [65.196.224.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 852A513C4A7 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 05:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 61991 invoked by uid 89); 1 Mar 2007 05:29:34 -0000 Received: from 64-184-10-26.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.105?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.26) by auth-ecluster6.tls.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 05:29:34 -0000 Message-ID: <45E6650E.8020503@pixelhammer.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:30:54 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> <45E61FCA.1010507@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <45E61FCA.1010507@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:31:11 -0000 Patrick Bowen wrote: > mailing-lists@msdi.ca wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Sorry this question is a little off-topic... >> >> We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are >> running >> freebsd. >> >> The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :( >> >> We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3 >> (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for >> freebsd until the end of the year... >> >> So I will need to setup a machine with linux. >> >> I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend >> one to >> me please. >> >> We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will >> act >> as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and >> upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with >> Redhat >> or any commercial distribution. >> >> I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with >> software installation and updates and I am looking for something >> equivalent >> on a linux distribution. >> >> Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've >> check >> ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend... >> >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > Take a look at Slackware. > > http://www.slackware.com > > Patrick Seconded, if I got to run Linux, I run Slackware (and I have in production). If you need it there is a port of Slack to AMD64 called slamd64, http://www.slamd64.com/. FreeBSD users will appreciate it's simplicity and it's stability. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 06:05:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD83616A405 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rithy_ray@khmerserver.net) Received: from mail7.worldispnetwork.com (mail7.worldispnetwork.com [65.19.179.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CABC413C4A8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rithy_ray@khmerserver.net) Received: (qmail 88799 invoked by uid 399); 1 Mar 2007 05:38:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (rithy?ray@khmerserver.net@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 05:38:26 -0000 Received: from 155.57.155.200 ([155.57.155.200]) by 65.19.179.8 (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:38:25 -0800 Message-ID: <20070228213825.7kl15bozk4okcogw@65.19.179.8> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:38:25 -0800 From: rithy_ray@khmerserver.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1) Subject: Bandwidth limit server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:05:12 -0000 Any one have idea about bandwidth limitation on FreeBSD to act as distribution switch for an ISP's subscriber? Thanks & Best Regards, Rithy RAY, CIO From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 06:11:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F8916A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0940713C428 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 99750 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2007 06:11:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 06:11:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: dvPjIUYVM1k9.XOGkTJMj5MJLjaII65kA0rVltgSGc3d2eWb5zQQTBlt7t5jrhjTeQ-- Message-ID: <45E66EA6.4090107@hier7.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:11:50 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070228213825.7kl15bozk4okcogw@65.19.179.8> In-Reply-To: <20070228213825.7kl15bozk4okcogw@65.19.179.8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bandwidth limit server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:11:57 -0000 You might want to take a look at dummynet as a transparent bridge. - Chris rithy_ray@khmerserver.net wrote: > Any one have idea about bandwidth limitation on FreeBSD to act as > distribution switch for an ISP's subscriber? > > Thanks & Best Regards, > Rithy RAY, CIO > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 06:17:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078C16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EB913C4B2 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l216H48r061997; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:17:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002601c75bc9$18a85e70$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "DAve" , References: <0AFEEDC5-5838-4721-9309-E743EFF5C0B0@techally.com> <45DC9589.6030606@pixelhammer.com> <20070222171839.GB30093@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <45E43ACF.80004@pixelhammer.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:16:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:17:05 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Re: Day Light Savings time changes on March 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:17:06 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAve" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Day Light Savings time changes on March 11 > > Personally, I think someone just wanted on extra hour on the tee during > the week after work. > That is exactly why AZ doesen't do DST. The golfers all want morning tee times due to the heat. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 06:28:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF83216A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299BB13C442 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l216SQlU043296; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:28:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l216SQ4W043295; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:28:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:28:26 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: youshi10@u.washington.edu Message-ID: <20070301062825.GA77482@thought.org> References: <20070228235341.GA88385@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backspace key "<-" not mapping to ^H X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:28:28 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 04:06:11PM -0800, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Gary Kline wrote: > > >On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:39:41PM -0800, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > >>On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Thomas Dickey wrote: > >> > > > > [[ yelps of various sorts about "STUFF" ]] > > > >> > >>You can set the default terminal in gnome to be xterm instead of Gnome > >>Terminal. Gnome then wraps xterm in a program they call "Terminal" which > >>you can setup to your liking using the preferences accessible from the > >>menu. > >> > >>That's what I meant. Just relaying my experience because I had a similar > >>problem recently with Suse. > >> > >>-Garrett > >> > > > > > > Too bad there isn't some sort of web database for these sorts of > > miscellany with tags like (vi backspace-failure term) that would > > aide the search and solution for these type questions. This may > > be one of Google's aims, but there are miles to go.... > > > > gary > > Someone (Chuck Swiger I believe?) posted a modded .Xresources file as a > solution to my terminal issue a few weeks back; it modified the behavior > of Xterm to meet his needs, but it wasn't quite what I wanted/needed > though. I found the gnome terminal solution, but maybe the solution he > provided me would be helpful for you? Maybe. Or *hopefully*! I've got a few lines in my ~/.Xresources file but haven't touch it in years. Another thing along this line involves using FBSD from the boot-up screem--the console. It's slightly difficult for me to reach ESC so I have both the DEL key and the Left Alt key mapped to be ESC. But only running X. When I'm rebooting or down to single-user and I hit L-Alt from vi, Zip. What's the magic .key*FOO* file that remaps from the console? Not to whine Too much, but god, it's been a long century! gary > > -Garrett > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 07:02:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7483E16A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dakfreebsd@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A90C13C467 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dakfreebsd@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so331896wxc for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:02:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=C5Q2R0nxlX/+UGR9m2sPQD/yo3DTa1hV3BV3yYGCxOK/NeQuuG/88e7eC91q1kyQfAlaBEClDT2TzG3mRn427PoAZIoNNuHaRfkXi/PwX3RFCy6rxvuJhqwTQdN05MzwA+3286c0Jq9bkOOHRE5EAYIFCShm6hObdw4T1gKIKn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cm5Eu8HPDUMKoueG12IZRmrkuyeXpnTdJHyIAySHn+Ev9bCSiDwMIxXAPw1CaY1/9VV1+CPMM3fxMLpdiMYot/QrhHaCtHP0CJQZTUbsZ9kFoMKPknCsbB1uqw5A9oW/vEqho3HZv775hYg9iC171EmS7v7Szx8mXQfxuTRWo0o= Received: by 10.114.27.20 with SMTP id a20mr1858635waa.1172732550139; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.179.15 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:02:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5df74baa0702282302x37ca74ffh10ba984b1e559c25@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:02:30 -0500 From: "DAK GHATIKACHALAM" To: "Malcolm Kay" In-Reply-To: <200703010134.51955.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5df74baa0702261339w7b2fac38v3e5f9f0dafd90f11@mail.gmail.com> <200703010134.51955.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FDISK output question -- OT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:02:31 -0000 On 2/28/07, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:09 am, DAK GHATIKACHALAM wrote: > > Hi Freebsd > > > > Question about FDISK > > > > Do you have an idea what does that '+' means in Blocks > > columns > > > > as seen below it is 419425019+ > > > > Does it signify anything , because for certain disks I do not > > see that '+' as the end of blocks? > > > I believe you are posting to the wrong list. This list is about > FreeBSD which is a form of BSD unix -- not Linux. I never believed that Linux( for the reasons there are just around for past 12 years only ) community would be as technically savvy as bsd unix community. so I never subscribed to any linux community. But we cant control the whole world, In professional world we always happened to work in cross platforms ( like me personally my laptop is on freebsd, but my work place is using Linux, Windows and Solaris only) , I thought it would not really hurt to ask here anyway. The extraneous '+' is a characteristic of the Linux version of > fdisk. I believe it indicates that the indicated 52216 units do > not exactly correspond to the 419425019 blocks (but I'm not a > Linux expert). I believe there is also an option to show more > detail. Thanks a lot Malcolm for that input I am going try tomorrow. Thanks Dak Switch to expert mode with 'x' before the 'p' enquiry. > > Malcolm > > > Thanks > > Dak > > > > [root@kali root]# fdisk /dev/sdk > > > > The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 52216. > > There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than > > 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: > > 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of > > LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs > > (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) > > > > Command (m for help): p > > > > Disk /dev/sdk: 429.4 GB, 429496729600 bytes > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 52216 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/sdk1 1 52216 419425019+ 83 Linux > > > > Command (m for help): > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 07:30:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA7416A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.8.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DD113C461 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l217UEiV067201; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:30:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer2@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id l217UEFE067198; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:30:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gwdu60.gwdg.de: kheuer2 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:30:09 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070301082510.R53317@gwdu60.gwdg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: 6.1 & SMP & PERC 3 on PE 2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:30:16 -0000 Hello everyone, after upgrading from 4.11 to 6.1 on two Dell PE 2650 each with PERC/3 RAID controllers and two Xeon cpus there happen spontaneous reboots on both machines, from time to time a few per day. That's anything else but nice. Disabling SMP seems to help, but that's no solution. Are there any problems known? Best regards and thanks for any reply Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 08:25:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80D716A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morfiin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7344913C467 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morfiin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so540727wri for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:25:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Kvb4FwE2jXRaUkb9acjK4EvxA3LC3FvOgzDdmrGBEjmlhyGZCbEojby1I9IQuPfBb+V1r78dTH3vn4ZyAYRpYXl6lRdvIXQ7YbcymZM6K5d9SyVgRr3J2Rfuf0ql69kgTaogUWOMhstd97nbwVuqzqxLMmt1IHa+TvH41evJ3f4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=M7KIFFHh6zIegr+BGNfKFJbjvE9kxU6rL1Eo2eno86I1Y7kh6yF1IQ5l4NUKsDeUEKxfcJ7kD7NTZh+4oWzpFw9k9qkMMmYi7fgvMXdNplHFXGy+Yu6n1J6vQyJk8NyZNSXCMjGr8C5HB0NA4RTKbANnXspAsAz246bktWsm4iw= Received: by 10.114.37.1 with SMTP id k1mr60736wak.1172737524992; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.153.1 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:25:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:25:24 +0200 From: "t nagu tundmatu" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070301024308.GA726@powerfull.bsd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: unlisted camera in gtkam? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:25:34 -0000 Thanks, Alexander, for taking time to answer. If there is no other helpful thoughts meanwhile I will definately give the it a try. I did write the specific problem information here, maybe it will give a better overview: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1670186&group_id=8874&atid=358874 (The answer did not help. Still no camera initialized.) T. __________ On 3/1/07, ajm wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:48:54AM +0200, t nagu tundmatu wrote: > > Hello to all, > > > > I have a problem with gtkam ? my new camera (Pentax K10D) is not > supported. > > I now got it listed in the menu but trying to 'add a new camera' gives a > > message 'could not initialize the camera.' Is there any trick I'm > missing or > > is there maybe another program I can use (with the support of this > camera) > > or maybe a third option? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > I don't have a Pentax, but I use a memory card reader for my Olympus. > I find it easier to mount, download photos then use gqview to > view and gimp to edit. Just make sure you mount it with the > mount_msdosfs command. > Here is what I have done. > > In the /etc/sysctl.conf file I have the following lines: > # user mounts devices > vfs.usermount=1 > > In the /usr/local/etc/sudoers file I have the following: > # Defaults specification > Defaults env_reset > Defaults timestamp_timeout=0 > Defaults tty_tickets > Defaults requiretty > Defaults passwd_timeout=1 > # User privilege specification > user_me ALL=/sbin/umount,\ > /sbin/mount_msdosfs > > In my home directory, I have created a directory call > ~/mount/camera > > I am in the wheel group. > > The command is > sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 ~/mount/camera > replace the ? with your device number. > > I hope this helps...I am sure there are many other ways to do this. > -- > Alexander > FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 09:00:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C788E16A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx24.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6637C13C491 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 11297 invoked by uid 399); 1 Mar 2007 09:00:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 09:00:27 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <45E69624.3030708@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:00:20 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Konrad Heuer References: <20070301082510.R53317@gwdu60.gwdg.de> In-Reply-To: <20070301082510.R53317@gwdu60.gwdg.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.1 & SMP & PERC 3 on PE 2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:00:27 -0000 [ For future reference, please don't cross post to -questions and any other list. Thanks. ] Konrad Heuer wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > after upgrading from 4.11 to 6.1 Step one would be to upgrade again to either 6.2-RELEASE or -stable. Lots of good stuff happened between releases. hth, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 09:20:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F72816A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrpt@catholic.org) Received: from pecan.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0F513C48D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrpt@catholic.org) Received: from 28.101.233.220.exetel.com.au ([220.233.101.28] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by pecan.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMeul-00044e-Ey for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:37:19 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Never you mind Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:37:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Subject: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:20:46 -0000 On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give it the details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp space as a drive on the desktop. Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce desktop manager? Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 09:39:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD6516A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p00-fb.rzone.de (mo-p00-fb.rzone.de [81.169.146.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EEA13C491 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (klopstock-mo-p00-ob.mail [192.168.63.66]) by charnel-fb-06.store (RZmta 4.9) with ESMTP id 606a08j210Cxna for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:08:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (p5480F937.dip.t-dialin.net [84.128.249.55]) by post.webmailer.de (klopstock mo54) (RZmta 4.9) with ESMTP id F04a39j218CwK4 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:07:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE24E0AA301 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:07:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19240-09 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:07:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 2055BE0AA300; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:07:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:07:12 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070301090712.GA21103@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de X-RZG-AUTH: l30WrtbrzmfyRJtZ7/TtK2qIdZIgjE9K4Q55TXGhenj8TX5ShWTsXpHkhlKAE7bT X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:39:44 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:46:13PM -0500, mailing-lists@msdi.ca wrote: > Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check > ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend... If you want a professional and well supported system, but don't need commercial support, CentOS is the way to go: http://www.centos.org CentOS is a free version of Redhat's Enterprise Linux and is available for several platforms, including amd64. Everything that is certified for RHEL will run without problems on CentOS. The current version is 4.4 but a new version of RHEL is expected to be released during the next weeks (which will be followed by a new version of CentOS). If you want an entirely free system with a large software repository and don't care for certifications from software or hardware vendors, I'd strongly recommend Debian Etch (will be the "stable" release in a short while). Commercial support is available from Hewlett Packard IIRC. bye, Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 10:03:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865A316A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77CE13C474 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so391714muf for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:03:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K+puWAPeK4iHAT4oP1C4/A4OrUdb0BcG5L04/YIGQGtSd4XJ/8LIRZQJebUx4dPzYZ5QX9lMhE0NsW/CdMoIBnF8ZOadUwZ3JYAs/u1GYhgYdzTuaCrDi0xj4MUfCRo6NbBpTP5ODYkO8VN9HQt3AzGClepv3SROFYY7UA0pWCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b2LH5FhG0ZPzWeeNKgPk6RjDxH12v15qeT4+P2baHsnLGWfGmWpQSphbJCM6zZi+AfUZh7jf9uEFOcjEJQQfB1qTa+wI6sKsfxk2opSk6hXpLT63yVE/0bcYeWZ9q1DRZ3HsViwkHY61+MoaXcHKDY2OLc3XqIzcifpdR2Vo698= Received: by 10.82.172.15 with SMTP id u15mr516253bue.1172743408464; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.135.17 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:03:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0703010203j576f0515j72a921f5c240befe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:03:28 +0000 From: Chris To: "Jeffrey Goldberg" In-Reply-To: <0FA190A2-CEF7-4BD1-9E09-239B398363BA@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0FA190A2-CEF7-4BD1-9E09-239B398363BA@goldmark.org> Cc: Dwight Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:03:30 -0000 On 01/03/07, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Feb 28, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Dwight Smith wrote: > > > I guess my question is that will the ease of building or installing > > software for FreeBSD ever streamline to where you do not have to do > > as many steps and text config file entries? > > I've recently moved back to BSD from more than a decade of linux. > What I found most frustrating about the Linux distributions I've used > is the multiple layers of configuration tools. There never seemed to > be a single layer at which I could do everything, and these layers of > admin tools would step on other layers. > > So for me, editing text config files is a great relief. But tastes > differ. > > While it took me a few days to get my head round the system, I find > software installation though ports more pleasant on FreeBSD then I > ever did with Linux RPMs. > > So, I can only speak for myself and without much new experience with > FreeBSD (I had used NetBSD back in 1996), but I find the software > installation and configuration steps easier under FreeBSD. > > But maybe I and most other FreeBSD users are unusual. I've used > apache from back when it was NCSA; so for me the apache configuration > file is something I'm comfortable with (though it has changed a great > deal over the years). Likewise for a large number of other things I > may wish to run. > > Maybe today's sysadms aren't familiar with all of these sorts of > configuration files, and so being presented with configuring them > directly is daunting. And so maybe for them higher level > administration tools are useful. > > So these people should start off with > > cd /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin > > make install > > It really isn't hard. > > > > I only ask this question as I would like to see FreeBSD get the > > same recognition as Linux as FreeBSD is a powerful OS that should > > not be overshadowed. > > Well, you could talk to some venture capitalists and create a Red Hat > equivalent for FreeBSD. I guess it should be called "Red Devil" if > that doesn't step on too many trademarks. > > I don't think that FreeBSD people should be too upset that Linux > happens to be the free Unix-like system that is in the limelight. > It's just the way things turned out. > > Cheers, > > -j > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I agree with most with whats been said here, I expect he typically uses linux and then finds freebsd uncomfortable to use, he may have a point with the hardware compatability but thats about it. For a neutral perspective tho someone who hasnt used linux or freebsd would probably find freebsd easier to learn. Its more organised layout with its directories, the ports system is much more reliable then the dependency hell you get on linux and easier to configure. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 11:08:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D8E16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0003513C4A5 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so316610ugh for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:08:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gWzsSLE2KN8WfMo/wB8vyHQEbznWxmLHa454yJvJJJ1AJFaMT/BY4FuO/LSzt35BCRHY0uBTT5FbAAcBnbX8Z/RrqgFUHjWGNLtMz2HanNBekPXoCfoZVUAxA+k+fE2MUiXHG3edI5Zqoxdjwad4LK3EYBjL+kiGqzEm3ilSwRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aMFMbGt3tn0pwNT8wKnf0jAdegWNNplx1hJZCQgODYKyhp9Vzz/Y9UgRd6lu50Mut2n8CGvy9kJjWGVfqsK7mTPEDiqGuFax+CKJ9Nk3c2nkiI6q8WJc/6hXcTZUU11ZjyQXbzo+7ZyBQ/KJv3j8sc0iBiC7L55X5+IYX25jud4= Received: by 10.82.172.15 with SMTP id u15mr525190bue.1172747307438; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.135.17 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 03:08:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0703010308t1fad983em2707001dc5ec3593@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:08:27 +0000 From: Chris To: "chrishome@austin.rr.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45C99336.3010508@demax.sk> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Jan Sebosik , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet rate limiter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:08:29 -0000 On 17/02/07, chrishome@austin.rr.com wrote: > > Hi > > > > is there any way how to limit packet per second [PPS] rate to > > specified > > IP (group of IP) ? Linux can achieve this via IPtables. > > I`ve searched a lot of web, but nothing interesting found (for PF, > > IPFilter, and IPFW). > > > > I agree this would be a very nice addition to IPFW as a basic feature, > or maybe a more advanced version via Dummynet. It's much to easy for a > trojan / virus or intentionally malicious user to flood a FreeBSD box > setup as a router with loads of tiny UDP packets on port 80. In fact, > just a few days ago we had 2 users behind one of our FreeBSD gateways > sending huge loads of traffic to a webhosting site.. This packet count > shown below was all within a 12 hour period ;) > > 00010 990465375 39618916491 deny ip from 172.17.106.114 to any > 00010 20010976 800449444 deny ip from 172.17.105.114 to any > > > Being able to put limits per protocol would be a wonderful addition. > For now what we do is setup a count rule by MAC address for every user, > we check the count rules every 60 seconds, if we begin to see packets > per second for a certain host climb above for example 4000PPS, we simply > automatically add a deny rule. These are generally users set for 1 or 2 > Mbps each, so 4000PPS is pretty extreme for that kind of bandwidth > unless your doing something you shouldn't. > > I've been talking to a few friends about possibly adding this to ipfw or > dummynet, and if I ever get around to a completed working version, I > would be more than happy to share, but for now, there are ways to still > fix the problem, just not as elegant as if it where actually a firewall > rule ;) > > Chris Bowman > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Whats the rule that counts per src address? thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 11:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9401D16A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E90613C49D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [10.0.0.178] ([10.0.0.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l21BBoXN001991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:11:52 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E6B4FC.5040601@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:11:56 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Tolbert References: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> <45E6113A.2060500@unsane.co.uk> <20070301000112.GA74875@just.puresimplicity.net> In-Reply-To: <20070301000112.GA74875@just.puresimplicity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:11:55 -0000 Josh Tolbert wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:33:14PM +0000, Vince wrote: > >> or just >> find /path/to/dirs -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; >> should do it. >> > > Fair enough; I generally prefer the xargs method in case I have to do any more > processing later. Also, xargs' batching may potentially save you a bit of > time, but I doubt that'd be noticable. > > True, for anything more complex xargs is invaluable. Vince > Thanks, > > Josh > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 11:38:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7AA16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from obelix.math.univ-paris13.fr (obelix.math.univ-paris13.fr [194.254.165.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914A913C428 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from [192.168.70.222] (addoo.math.univ-paris13.fr [194.254.165.54]) by obelix.math.univ-paris13.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240CFE1CB7 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:15:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E6B5CE.6040301@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:15:26 +0100 From: Le Cocq Michel User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061014) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: python 2.4.4, 1 vs 2.4.3, 1 - zope trouble - python version downgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:38:02 -0000 Yesterday I try to install a python module after a 'portsnap fetch update', during the install python upgrade from version 2.4.3,1 to 2.4.4,1. python-2.4.3,1 The "meta-port" for the stable version of Python interprete vs python-2.4.4,1 [...] since these upgrade my zope (zope29-2.9.6) won't start anymore ! How can I come back to version python-2.4.3,1 ? Michel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 11:44:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8659A16A4C2 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@ephgroup.com) Received: from mail1.extendcp.co.uk (mail1.mainnameserver.com [82.110.105.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA4113C47E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@ephgroup.com) Received: from dsl82-163-230-88.as15444.net ([82.163.230.88] helo=[192.168.1.61]) by mail1.extendcp.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.42) id 1HMjhu-0004TO-46 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:44:22 +0000 Message-ID: <45E6BCFF.3010809@ephgroup.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:46:07 +0000 From: Dave Carrera User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Backup procedure question / theory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave@ephgroup.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:44:24 -0000 HI All, I need to automatically once a day backup some files on my Win 2003 serve to my remote FreeBSD box running v6. What i need specifically is to compress the win files as small as they can be then either set my FreeBSD box to go a get the file or tell win to send it to my FreeBSD box. The stumbling block here is me, i have absolutely no idea what i need to do on each box to achieve this, having never done it before. So i ask if any kind persons on the list can advise or even help me with this. Many kind regards Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 12:06:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AFF16A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick@nickwithers.com) Received: from mail.nickwithers.com (mail.manrags.com [203.219.206.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6A113C4A8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick@nickwithers.com) Received: from localhost (presario.shmon.net [10.0.0.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.nickwithers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED2B3A31D; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:06:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:06:03 +1100 From: Nick Withers To: dave@ephgroup.com Message-Id: <20070301230603.93bacce8.nick@nickwithers.com> In-Reply-To: <45E6BCFF.3010809@ephgroup.com> References: <45E6BCFF.3010809@ephgroup.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-nickwithers-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-nickwithers-MailScanner-From: nick@nickwithers.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup procedure question / theory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:06:32 -0000 On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:46:07 +0000 Dave Carrera wrote: > HI All, > > I need to automatically once a day backup some files on my Win 2003 > serve to my remote FreeBSD box running v6. > > What i need specifically is to compress the win files as small as > they can be then either set my FreeBSD box to go a get the file or > tell win to send it to my FreeBSD box. > > The stumbling block here is me, i have absolutely no idea what i > need to do on each box to achieve this, having never done it before. Not necessarily what you're after (may be a little excessive for your tastes), but I'd recommend Bacula (www.bacula.org). Failing that, perhaps a script to zip the files on the Win box then copy it to a Samba share on the FreeBSD box? Or mount a Windows share containing the files to be backed up on the FreeBSD box and bzip2 / gzip them to a file on the FreeBSD machine. A little off-topic here, perhaps... > So i ask if any kind persons on the list can advise or even help me > with this. > > Many kind regards > > Dave -- Nick Withers email: nick@nickwithers.com Web: http://www.nickwithers.com Mobile: +61 414 397 446 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 12:48:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4746816A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EA713C442 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 25098 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2007 23:48:22 +1100 Received: from 203-217-48-136.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.48.136) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 23:48:22 +1100 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:48:16 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Uwe Laverenz Message-ID: <20070301234816.54d9fbd7@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070301090712.GA21103@laverenz.de> References: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> <20070301090712.GA21103@laverenz.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:48:23 -0000 On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:07:12 +0100 Uwe Laverenz wrote: > If you want a professional and well supported system, but don't need > commercial support, CentOS is the way to go: http://www.centos.org > > CentOS is a free version of Redhat's Enterprise Linux and is available > for several platforms, including amd64. Everything that is certified for > RHEL will run without problems on CentOS. The current version is 4.4 but > a new version of RHEL is expected to be released during the next weeks > (which will be followed by a new version of CentOS). I'll agree with Uwe here - Centos is very nice and stable. I've given up on gentoo, ubuntu , and RHEL (any more lock in and they might as well move to Redmond...). ( mainly using Centos as a host for VMWare server since it wont run on FBSD :( , and FreeBSD on XEN isn't there yet, i think... maybe i ought to try Netbsd... ) I haven't touched slackware since 1995 - if it's still so good I will give it a try again _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Ghandi I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 13:05:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E25416A408 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3065513C4B3 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 25878 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 00:05:30 +1100 Received: from 203-217-48-136.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.48.136) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 00:05:30 +1100 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:05:27 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Dwight Smith" Message-ID: <20070302000527.04880ecf@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD 7.0 and up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:05:31 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:26:47 -0800 "Dwight Smith" wrote: > What > had me curious to asking this is this article I read about a review on > FreeBSD 6.2 (http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/67/) The > reviewer had a lot of criticisms that seemed harsh, but at the same time > raised some valid points. the writer doesnt seem to know much about Freebsd...or have cared to RTFM. "Installation of default config files. After installation, FreeBSD is left with no real make.conf or rc.conf, although there are example files in /usr/share/examples." I guess his /etc/defaults/* got lost with the geometry bug (which, btw, never actually affected any of the servers / workstations / laptops I've installed with FBsd - it complains, ignore it, works (for me at least). And ... which options do we want to put in the initial config files? The defaults are ALL there and they work. If you don't like them you *CHANGE* the defaults.... isn't that the whole point of configuring your box? I agree with someone else who said that at least w/ BSD you have 1 layer of config - nice and clean. If you don't like something as efficient as a text file for your options, write a great tool for every configuration and promote its use. I'm happy to stay away from Microsoft style dumbing down and hidden hacks (ie, registry tweaks, which are the only way to get things working half the time). ( I've got some ideas on an useful configuration tool for BSD...but this is not the time to spill the beans :) anyway, we can all find nits on anything. Nobody is forcing him to like or use FreeBSD, nor us to read his/her articles (ever again) :) > I only ask this question as I would like to see > FreeBSD get the same recognition as Linux as FreeBSD is a powerful OS that > should not be overshadowed well, each to their own... I for one I prefer that Linux keeps all the "distribution hell" and limelight... FBSD (and all the BSDs for that matter) are well known enough by the technical community - i see more and more people using them all the time... :) _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "That's what I love about GUIs: They make simple tasks easier, and complex tasks impossible." -- John William Chambless I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 13:48:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8D116A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954FE13C467 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 28633 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 00:48:57 +1100 Received: from 203-217-48-136.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.48.136) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 00:48:57 +1100 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:48:54 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20070302004854.7aad2d35@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:48:58 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:12:58 -0600 Paul Schmehl wrote: > I thought I could just do this: > chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d` > > but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously) > doesn't work. And for completeness sake, if you want to change the delimiter in your (bash*) shell, set IFS to something else , eg export IFS=| so now, instead of breaking Day and 2 apart, they'll be considered 1 list item. Which of course may bring other problems... but :) _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome If you find God, do you get to keep him/her? I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 13:53:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8E316A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB39A13C474 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so370447ana for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:53:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=FUNvGWNRBeRCXHPHeSH/0lkilNuipmuC8GVrvfDpSDQknZSZAcqgx6h4tRa/inXRe3GONF1kp/ZwcFrA0mF24aj5y0hLR3yyByGaqj6ZJll/k2yRsydrVdZHu2avsThd5HIj6UsFHs1GwNQ/BkkdGqUzlZAu8PXUyWJVkEcCe4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AFKNjG0C0Vh0gk7LTJWBUwOpxmIj9DoQVBgLRoj/VcphCSmVMQUql4Pa8G4XoelkRVLOPYMVLvcTKhZa++vqQGcf8fbeODVedF6fGV8nTLWZD/CWTFkt0ojSqP04Y/6MNXcfU8QRt1MnjmmBwHUliBbEq9kj+PC6opvgSoI4BPw= Received: by 10.114.75.1 with SMTP id x1mr570645waa.1172757191386; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.12 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 05:53:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6207f7d90703010553t745460aap9cdc3f8a03ffaf69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:53:11 -0500 From: "Don Munyak" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: IPF (ftp - pkg_add) help requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:53:24 -0000 I am building a FreeBSD box to function as a FAMP server (LAMP) and hopefully replace our existing mail server. I am having an issue with IPF that I can't seem to figure out. *** When IPF is enabled, I can't run # pkg_add -r . {...snip from local console..} p0069# pkg_add -rv bash looking up ftp.freebsd.org connecting to ftp.freebsd.org:21 setting passive mode opening data connection Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/bash.tbz: Network is unreachable pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Latest/bash.tbz' by URL pkg_add: 1 package addition's) failed {...end-snip..} *** When I disable ipf -D, all works fine. IPF was compiled in the kernel when I did a buildworld. p0069# uname -a FreeBSD p0069.bm.local 6.1-RELEASE-p12 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p12 #0: Thu Feb 8 13:55:26 EST 2007 don@p0069.bm.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WEBSERVER i386 p0069# When I issue ipfstat -ho, after pkg_add -r, the following lines increment - pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep state - pass out quick on em0 proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state - block out log first quick on em0 all # ---------- # /etc/ipf.rules # logged to /var/log/firewall.log # 02/28/2007 # ---------- # ------------------ # EGRESS filtering # ------------------ # No restriction on Loopback Adapter pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all # DHCP Bootp # pass out quick on em0 proto udp from any to any port = 67 keep state # pass out quick on em0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 keep state # ICMP pass out quick on em0 proto icmp from any to any keep state # Allow out http pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 flags S keep state pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 443 flags S keep state # Allow ftp out pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 flags S keep state pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep state # Allow mail out pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 110 flags S keep state pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 143 flags S keep state pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 flags S keep state # Allow SSH Out pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep state # Allow DNS pass out quick on em0 proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 53 flags S keep state # Allow CVSUP pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 5999 flags S keep state # Keeping time pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 37 flags S keep state pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 123 flags S keep state # Allow whois pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 43 flags S keep state # Razor & Spamassasin # more later # Block and Log the first occurance of everything else block out log first quick on em0 all # ------------------------- # INGRESS Filtering # ------------------------ # Block all inbound traffic from non-routable or reserved networks # block in quick on em0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any block in quick on em0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any block in quick on em0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on em0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on em0 from 0.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on em0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any # block in quick on em0 from 192.0.2.0/24 to any block in quick on em0 from 204.153.64.0/23 to any block in quick on em0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any # Block in Nasties # stuff I don't want logged block in quick on em0 proto icmp all icmp-type 8 block in quick on em0 all with frags block in quick on em0 all with ipopts block in quick on em0 all with short # block return-rst in quick on em0 proto tcp all flags FUP # block return-rst in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any # block return-icmp-as-digest(port-unr) in quick on em0 proto udp from any to any # Block all Netbios server. 137=name, 138=datagram, 139=session block in log first quick on em0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 137 block in log first quick on em0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 138 block in log first quick on em0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 139 block in log first quick on em0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 81 # Allow in http/https pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 flags S keep state pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 443 flags S keep state # allow incoming SSH pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep state # SMTP/POP/IMAP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 flags S keep state pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 110 flags S keep state pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 143 flags S keep state # Anit-Virus # more later # All the rest block in log first quick on em0 all # --------- EOF ------------ TIA, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 13:57:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC9F16A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 446B813C4BD for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 9952 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2007 13:57:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 13:57:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: O6FlHK4VM1ly5vv5B5ad8N8lWYPnVfB2AZTxIfazrk31o30qC_zLZz7KB8H2h0E7iw-- Message-ID: <45E6DBB0.9050603@hier7.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:57:04 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <6207f7d90703010553t745460aap9cdc3f8a03ffaf69@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6207f7d90703010553t745460aap9cdc3f8a03ffaf69@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: IPF (ftp - pkg_add) help requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:57:02 -0000 I'd start by upgrading to 6.2 Don Munyak wrote: > I am building a FreeBSD box to function as a FAMP server (LAMP) and > hopefully replace our existing mail server. I am having an issue with > IPF that I can't seem to figure out. > > *** When IPF is enabled, I can't run # pkg_add -r . > > p0069# uname -a > FreeBSD p0069.bm.local 6.1-RELEASE-p12 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p12 #0: Thu > Feb 8 13:55:26 EST 2007 > don@p0069.bm.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WEBSERVER i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 14:29:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4EB16A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romulo.lima@wavenet.com.br) Received: from argow.wavenet.com.br (argow.wavenet.com.br [200.157.141.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B7413C481 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:29:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romulo.lima@wavenet.com.br) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wavenet.com.br Received: from gerenciatec (galileu.wavenet.com.br [200.157.23.1]) by argow.wavenet.com.br (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l21EEtje078082 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:14:56 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <079101c75c0b$632ce230$de00a8c0@redeinterna.wavenet.com.br> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F4mulo_Lima?= To: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:10:37 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Hardware Problem - FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:29:51 -0000 Hi,=20 Good morning, my name is R=F4mulo Lima, I had a problem when make an = upgrade in my Freebsd Server from version 6.1 to 6.2. Before upgrade my = SATA disc controller was working normally: atapci1: port = 0xec00-0xec0f,0xe480-0xe487,0xe400-0xe40f,0xe080-0xe087,0xe000-0xe01f = mem 0xdffff800-0xdffffbff irq 21 at device 31.1 on pci0 ad4: 78167MB at ata2-master SATA150 But after upgrade I got the following error, and my SATA disc stops, = after that I proceeded with a downgrade and may Server work fine again.=20 atapci1: AHCI controller reset failure device_attach: atapci1 attach returned 6 I search a solution on some mail lists, but I still have no solution to = this problem, if anyone can help me I will thank very much! Best Regards, R=F4mulo Lima Tech Manager Wavenet www.wavenet.com.br (55)(71) 3177-6150 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 14:36:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9D116A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35204.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35204.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7D3713C4B7 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36435 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2007 14:36:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0a6EnNcRBT9he+sPqVMoKb+O7ZCZ3jhafVNy4pHDkQQNzfguQtawVL8pFAQy9SB4D2eh0UIi230DfDk6YTjZCYWxd5TSYPN6Fn1y8yyR8ywxe7WgVLjMBGEHK6NFnH2fSyHoUZ61dwOHyvfKuuLopwQnzyo/kQHF4r4dmTGqrAY= ; Message-ID: <20070301143621.36433.qmail@web35204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: keFKTFgVM1m1b8zRbywx6pGIm7iXzOHrPe1PP7wdgiyVilxxKP.Xrlor6MImYQfw2cJOd.OZk.7wjVhySg2FazWBNlq6sppBUc2S6ZECJoqvYDN7zO1hRsgRP6eEHGgIZ8G0xThaGmzmHN0- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35204.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:36:21 CST Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:36:21 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45E6650E.8020503@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:36:22 -0000 --- DAve wrote: > Patrick Bowen wrote: > > mailing-lists@msdi.ca wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Sorry this question is a little off-topic... > >> > >> We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are > > >> running > >> freebsd. > >> > >> The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial > support :( > >> > >> We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform > 3 > >> (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be > available for > >> freebsd until the end of the year... > >> > >> So I will need to setup a machine with linux. > >> > >> I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone > recommend > >> one to > >> me please. > >> > >> We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, > will > >> act > >> as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports > and > >> upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go > with > >> Redhat > >> or any commercial distribution. > >> > >> I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing > with > >> software installation and updates and I am looking for something > >> equivalent > >> on a linux distribution. > >> > >> Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, > we've > >> check > >> ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users > recommend... > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > > > > Take a look at Slackware. > > > > http://www.slackware.com > > > > Patrick > > Seconded, if I got to run Linux, I run Slackware (and I have in > production). If you need it there is a port of Slack to AMD64 called > slamd64, http://www.slamd64.com/. > > FreeBSD users will appreciate it's simplicity and it's stability. slamd64-11.0 has issue on nVidia driver, same as FreeBSD 6.2-amd64. Besides you need to recompile kernel to enable smp technology. Each time after recompiling/upgrading kernel you need to reinstall the driver download on nVidia.com. The situation is better than FBSD. I can't locate driver for FBSD x86_64 on their website, only x_86 available. The onboard NIC fails to work and X can't work properly However smp technology is already enabled on FBSD. I have slamd64-11.0 and FreeBSD 6.2-amd64 running here. I have no knowledge on CentOS. I'm prepared to try it. According to folks on their forum CentOS supports nVidia chipset without problem. B.R. Stephen Liu Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 14:41:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2A216A408 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from ns.beach.net (ns.beach.net [12.130.64.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899D713C4A7 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from dpcsys.com (busarow.beach.net [69.51.81.91] (may be forged)) by ns.beach.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l21Ef6dZ032252; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:41:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:41:04 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) To: Le Cocq Michel From: Dan Busarow In-Reply-To: <45E6B5CE.6040301@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python 2.4.4, 1 vs 2.4.3, 1 - zope trouble - python version downgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:41:11 -0000 On Thursday, March 1, 2007, at 04:15 AM, Le Cocq Michel wrote: > Yesterday I try to install a python module after a 'portsnap fetch > update', during the install python upgrade from version 2.4.3,1 to > 2.4.4,1. > > python-2.4.3,1 The "meta-port" for the stable version of Python > interprete > vs > python-2.4.4,1 [...] > > since these upgrade my zope (zope29-2.9.6) won't start anymore ! > > How can I come back to version python-2.4.3,1 ? Zope 2.9.6 runs just fine with python 2.4.4. From my Control Panel Zope Version (Zope 2.9.6-final, python 2.4.4, freebsd5) Python Version 2.4.4 (#2, Feb 1 2007, 14:50:23) [GCC 3.4.2 [FreeBSD] 20040728] System Platform freebsd5 What is the error you see if you run bin/runzope manually? Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 14:52:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F0916A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjoern.koenig@alpha-tierchen.de) Received: from mail.liberty-hosting.de (mail.smartterra.de [195.225.132.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2B413C4A3 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjoern.koenig@alpha-tierchen.de) Received: from mail.liberty-hosting.de ([195.225.132.203]) by localhost (liberty-mail [195.225.132.203]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70725-07; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:52:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from alpha-tierchen.de (port-212-202-170-218.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.170.218]) by mail.liberty-hosting.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FE8180C8D; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:52:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.lan [192.168.1.2]) by alpha-tierchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EAF5097C; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:52:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E6E89F.4020203@alpha-tierchen.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:52:15 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Hook References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.smartterra.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD X11 settings in Virtual PC 2007 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:52:16 -0000 Hello Anthony, it seems like that Virtual PC 2007 doesn't support 24 bit color. I had no problems with 16 bit and 1152x768. Regards Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 14:54:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF4916A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from obelix.math.univ-paris13.fr (obelix.math.univ-paris13.fr [194.254.165.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855FB13C46B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from [192.168.70.222] (addoo.math.univ-paris13.fr [194.254.165.54]) by obelix.math.univ-paris13.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF678E1D14; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:54:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E6E91A.10900@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:54:18 +0100 From: Le Cocq Michel User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061014) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Busarow , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: python 2.4.4, 1 vs 2.4.3, 1 - zope trouble - python version downgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:54:23 -0000 I just test on an other system after making a new instance et getting my var and products folder, so it does not come from my zope instance, but apparently my other system is unstable... sick... for ex, when i launch zopctl: rapace# ./zopectl Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/zopectl.py", line 322, in ? main() File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/zopectl.py", line 280, in main options.realize(args) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/zopectl.py", line 91, in realize ZDOptions.realize(self, *args, **kw) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py", line 273, in realize self.load_schema() File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py", line 321, in load_schema self.schema = ZConfig.loadSchema(self.schemafile) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py", line 31, in loadSchema return SchemaLoader().loadURL(url) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py", line 65, in loadURL return self.loadResource(r) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py", line 159, in loadResource schema = ZConfig.schema.parseResource(resource, self) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/schema.py", line 27, in parseResource xml.sax.parse(resource.file, parser) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/__init__.py", line 33, in parse parser.parse(source) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 107, in parse xmlreader.IncrementalParser.parse(self, source) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/xmlreader.py", line 123, in parse self.feed(buffer) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 207, in feed self._parser.Parse(data, isFinal) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 300, in start_element self._cont_handler.startElement(name, AttributesImpl(attrs)) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/schema.py", line 99, in startElement getattr(self, "start_" + name)(attrs) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/schema.py", line 475, in start_schema keytype, valuetype, datatype = self.get_sect_typeinfo(attrs) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/schema.py", line 201, in get_sect_typeinfo datatype = self.get_datatype(attrs, "datatype", "null", base) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/schema.py", line 194, in get_datatype return self._registry.get(dtname) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/datatypes.py", line 398, in get t = self.search(name) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZConfig/datatypes.py", line 423, in search package = __import__(n, g, g, component) File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/datatypes.py", line 21, in ? import OFS.Uninstalled File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/OFS/Uninstalled.py", line 20, in ? import SimpleItem, Globals, Acquisition File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/OFS/SimpleItem.py", line 26, in ? import AccessControl.Role, AccessControl.Owned, App.Common File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/AccessControl/__init__.py", line 17, in ? from Implementation import setImplementation File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/AccessControl/Implementation.py", line 98, in ? setImplementation("C") File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/AccessControl/Implementation.py", line 51, in setImplementation from AccessControl import ImplC as impl File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/AccessControl/ImplC.py", line 18, in ? from cAccessControl import rolesForPermissionOn, \ File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/AccessControl/SimpleObjectPolicies.py", line 82, in ? from DocumentTemplate.DT_Util import TemplateDict File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/__init__.py", line 21, in ? from DocumentTemplate import String, File, HTML, HTMLDefault, HTMLFile File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DocumentTemplate.py", line 112, in ? from DT_String import String, File File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py", line 19, in ? from DT_Util import ParseError, InstanceDict, TemplateDict, render_blocks, str File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py", line 67, in ? from ZPublisher.TaintedString import TaintedString File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZPublisher/__init__.py", line 24, in ? from Publish import publish_module, Retry File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 24, in ? from zope.app.publication.browser import setDefaultSkin File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/publication/browser.py", line 33, in ? from zope.app.publication.http import BaseHTTPPublication File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/publication/http.py", line 27, in ? from zope.app.publication.zopepublication import ZopePublication File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/publication/zopepublication.py", line 46, in ? from zope.app.security.principalregistry import principalRegistry as prin_reg File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/security/principalregistry.py", line 20, in ? from zope.app.authentication.interfaces import IPasswordManager File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/authentication/__init__.py", line 20, in ? from zope.app.authentication.authentication import PluggableAuthentication File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/authentication/authentication.py", line 25, in ? from zope.app.component.site import SiteManagementFolder File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/component/site.py", line 35, in ? from zope.app.component import adapter File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/component/adapter.py", line 28, in ? class LocalSurrogate(zope.interface.adapter.Surrogate): AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Surrogate' rapace# Dan Busarow a écrit : > > On Thursday, March 1, 2007, at 04:15 AM, Le Cocq Michel wrote: > >> Yesterday I try to install a python module after a 'portsnap fetch >> update', during the install python upgrade from version 2.4.3,1 to >> 2.4.4,1. >> >> python-2.4.3,1 The "meta-port" for the stable version of Python >> interprete >> vs >> python-2.4.4,1 [...] >> >> since these upgrade my zope (zope29-2.9.6) won't start anymore ! >> >> How can I come back to version python-2.4.3,1 ? > > Zope 2.9.6 runs just fine with python 2.4.4. From my Control Panel > > Zope Version (Zope 2.9.6-final, python 2.4.4, freebsd5) > Python Version 2.4.4 (#2, Feb 1 2007, 14:50:23) [GCC 3.4.2 [FreeBSD] > 20040728] > System Platform freebsd5 > > What is the error you see if you run bin/runzope manually? > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 15:00:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408FB16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D10913C441 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l21F0JSV065383 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:00:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200703011500.l21F0JSV065383@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <65375.1172761219.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:00:19 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Best anoncvs Site to Update 6.2 Sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:00:20 -0000 After installing FreeBSD6.2 from the ISO image, I figured that cvsup would be the best way to update the new system and apply the patches which have come out since the image was created. I think I have cvsup ready to go, but I can't tell for sure since the mirror site I picked was the first one in the list for the United states. It is anoncvs.FreeBSD.org and is obviously quite popular. cvsup tried all night long to connect and never got in . The next mirror site for the US is anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org and it appears to be down. Since all I need is to update all the sources for FreeBSD6.2, is there a better choice of sites? I got these 2 site names from the FreeBSD handbook. We have been using FreeBSD here since 2001, but I have never seriously tried cvsup until now since we are installing several new servers, all using FreeBSD6.2. Thanks. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 15:03:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9030316A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com [68.99.120.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6C113C4A5 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao03 ([172.18.22.59]) by dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with SMTP id <20070301150315.TKDI2045.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03> for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:03:15 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.16 (webedge20-101-1106-20040809) From: Vizion Organization: vizion Communications To: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 7:03:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070301150315.TKDI2045.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03> Subject: Portupgrade -how ro get out of loop!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:03:15 -0000 I have multiple lines of stale dependencies reported from pkgdb -F all of which relate to bsdpan-Archive-Tar-1.30 or 1.16 witha report that the package is held. The lines are Stale dependency:bsdpan-Archive-Tar-[version] -> [see NOTE below]: -> Ignored (the package is held; specify -f to force) How do I get out of the following loop!!!!! : I run # pkgdb -f Then try # portupgrade -a and get Stale dependency ......... manuall run 'pkgdb -F to fix or specify -O to force I run # pkgdb -O then run # portupgrade -a and get Stale dependencies ......manually run 'pkgdb -F' to fix or specify -O to force NOTE the references are to p5-Text-Diff-0.35 (textproc/p5-Text-Diff) etc p5-PathTools [ver] [port] p5- [App] [ver] [port] Thanks in advance david From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 15:11:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFD416A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54ED13C491 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B151C8950; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:50:33 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:12:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <079101c75c0b$632ce230$de00a8c0@redeinterna.wavenet.com.br> In-Reply-To: <079101c75c0b$632ce230$de00a8c0@redeinterna.wavenet.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703011712.55606.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F4mulo_Lima?= Subject: Re: Hardware Problem - FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:11:07 -0000 On Thursday 01 March 2007 16:10, Rômulo Lima wrote: > Hi, > > Good morning, my name is Rômulo Lima, I had a problem when make an upgrade in my Freebsd Server from version 6.1 to 6.2. Before upgrade my SATA disc controller was working normally: > > atapci1: port 0xec00-0xec0f,0xe480-0xe487,0xe400-0xe40f,0xe080-0xe087,0xe000-0xe01f mem 0xdffff800-0xdffffbff irq 21 at device 31.1 on pci0 > ad4: 78167MB at ata2-master SATA150 > > But after upgrade I got the following error, and my SATA disc stops, after that I proceeded with a downgrade and may Server work fine again. > > atapci1: AHCI controller reset failure > device_attach: atapci1 attach returned 6 > > I search a solution on some mail lists, but I still have no solution to this problem, if anyone can help me I will thank very much! > Hello Romulo, Check this message and the relevant thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-January/011256.html If that's not your case, please post a message to stable@ with an appropriate subject(SATA: AHCI controller reset failure for example) to catch some attention. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 15:22:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2424D16A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arhhook@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s31.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s31.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170A913C491 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arhhook@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY121-W15 ([207.46.10.50]) by bay0-omc3-s31.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:22:28 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [137.81.113.153] From: Anthony Hook To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:22:28 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 15:22:28.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C845930:01C75C15] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD X11 settings in Virtual PC 2007 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:22:29 -0000 My xorg.conf keeps warning "no screens found" after I run xorgconf. Would = you be able to send a copy of your xorg.conf? I appreciate the help! =20 Thanks, =20 Anthony > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:52:15 +0100> From: bjoern.koenig@alpha-tierchen.= de> To: arhhook@hotmail.com> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re= : FreeBSD X11 settings in Virtual PC 2007> > Hello Anthony,> > it seems lik= e that Virtual PC 2007 doesn't support 24 bit color. I had > no problems wi= th 16 bit and 1152x768.> > Regards> Bj=F6rn> >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=3D7+wonders+world&mkt=3Den-US&form=3DQ= BRE= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 15:42:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A427616A412 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260B13C4E3 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l21Fgncv004338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:42:49 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l21FgmTj008634 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:42:48 -0800 Message-ID: <45E6F462.7090704@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:42:26 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.1.73434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: FreeBSD X11 settings in Virtual PC 2007 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:42:52 -0000 Anthony Hook wrote: > My xorg.conf keeps warning "no screens found" after I run xorgconf. Would you be able to send a copy of your xorg.conf? I appreciate the help! > > Thanks, > > Anthony > > > >> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:52:15 +0100> From: bjoern.koenig@alpha-tierchen.de> To: arhhook@hotmail.com> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD X11 settings in Virtual PC 2007> > Hello Anthony,> > it seems like that Virtual PC 2007 doesn't support 24 bit color. I had > no problems with 16 bit and 1152x768.> > Regards> Björn> > Have you tried startx -probe or xorgcfg yet? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 15:58:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCF316A405 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4557513C4A5 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l21FwMlB028904; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:58:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:58:28 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> In-Reply-To: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Never you mind Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:58:26 -0000 On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: > On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give it the > details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp > space as a drive on the desktop. > > Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce > desktop manager? I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow you to mount an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing you'll have to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a shortcut to your chosen mountpoint should suffice). JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 16:14:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C11E16A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from simq1-srv.bellnexxia.net (simq1.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8B713C441 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from localhost ([69.158.191.23]) by simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with SMTP id <20070301151239.IZBB1625.simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost> for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:12:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:12:38 -0500 From: Gerry Freymann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070301101238.7a51585e.lists@interpool.ca> In-Reply-To: <841087.71142.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <841087.71142.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Organization: Interpool Development www.interpool.ca X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FSCK question on FreeBSD 5.4R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:14:42 -0000 I was doing some maintenance on my FreeBSD 5.4R box, and took it down to single user mode and ran fsck -y I have four partitions on my drive, and the 2nd and 3rd partitions come up with errors and say run fsck manually. When I do: fsck -y /dev/ad0s1e there's no difference, it just shows me the errors but doesn't fix 'em. I see (NO WRITE) on the partition which I figure is the problem. How do I get fsck to write the changes necessary? I used to know all this when I admin'd a half dozen boxes for about 5 years but 3 years later with little to no admin chores anymore I've forgotten. Thanks for any assistance you might provide. -gerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 16:23:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D82016A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F160B13C48E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2C11C8086; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:03:01 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:25:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200703011500.l21F0JSV065383@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200703011500.l21F0JSV065383@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703011825.24343.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Best anoncvs Site to Update 6.2 Sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:23:54 -0000 On Thursday 01 March 2007 17:00, Martin McCormick wrote: > After installing FreeBSD6.2 from the ISO image, I figured > that cvsup would be the best way to update the new system and > apply the patches which have come out since the image was > created. I think I have cvsup ready to go, but I can't tell for > sure since the mirror site I picked was the first one in the list > for the United states. It is anoncvs.FreeBSD.org and is obviously > quite popular. cvsup tried all night long to connect and never > got in . The next mirror site for the US is > anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org and it appears to be down. Since all I need > is to update all the sources for FreeBSD6.2, is there a better > choice of sites? I got these 2 site names from the FreeBSD > handbook. anoncvs is not CVSup. anoncvs.freebsd.org is an anonymous cvs server. You can find CVSup mirrors (and other information) here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 16:37:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C3C16A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from ns.beach.net (ns.beach.net [12.130.64.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64E613C4B8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from [192.168.1.228] (busarow.beach.net [69.51.81.91] (may be forged)) by ns.beach.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l21Gbhjc052891; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:37:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <45E6E91A.10900@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> References: <45E6E91A.10900@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <13C72A6A-A1D2-4727-91FE-EB88096D2B54@dpcsys.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Dan Busarow Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:37:43 -0700 To: Le Cocq Michel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python 2.4.4, 1 vs 2.4.3, 1 - zope trouble - python version downgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:37:45 -0000 On Mar 1, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Le Cocq Michel wrote: > I just test on an other system after making a new instance et =20 > getting my > var and products folder, so it does not come from my zope instance, =20= > but > apparently my other system is unstable... sick... > > for ex, when i launch zopctl: > > rapace# ./zopectl > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/zopectl.py", =20= > line > 322, in ? > [snip] > line 25, in ? > from zope.app.component.site import SiteManagementFolder > File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/component/site.py", > line 35, in ? > from zope.app.component import adapter > File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/component/=20 > adapter.py", > line 28, in ? > class LocalSurrogate(zope.interface.adapter.Surrogate): > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Surrogate' No idea why you get something like that. I'd try a fresh install. =20 If you still have a problem hit the zope list and see if they can =20 give you some guidance. It's not the mix of python 2.4.4 and zope 2.9.6 in FreeBsd though. Dan > Dan Busarow a =E9crit : >> >> On Thursday, March 1, 2007, at 04:15 AM, Le Cocq Michel wrote: >> >>> Yesterday I try to install a python module after a 'portsnap fetch >>> update', during the install python upgrade from version 2.4.3,1 to >>> 2.4.4,1. >>> >>> python-2.4.3,1 The "meta-port" for the stable version of Python >>> interprete >>> vs >>> python-2.4.4,1 [...] >>> >>> since these upgrade my zope (zope29-2.9.6) won't start anymore ! >>> >>> How can I come back to version python-2.4.3,1 ? >> >> Zope 2.9.6 runs just fine with python 2.4.4. =46rom my Control Panel >> >> Zope Version (Zope 2.9.6-final, python 2.4.4, freebsd5) >> Python Version 2.4.4 (#2, Feb 1 2007, 14:50:23) [GCC 3.4.2 [FreeBSD] >> 20040728] >> System Platform freebsd5 >> >> What is the error you see if you run bin/runzope manually? >> >> Dan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 16:41:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0EE16A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BC413C48D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l21GdDR8083838; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:39:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l21GdCai083837; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:39:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:39:12 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Gerry Freymann Message-ID: <20070301163912.GB83663@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <841087.71142.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20070301101238.7a51585e.lists@interpool.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070301101238.7a51585e.lists@interpool.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FSCK question on FreeBSD 5.4R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:41:50 -0000 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:12:38AM -0500, Gerry Freymann wrote: > I was doing some maintenance on my FreeBSD 5.4R box, and took it down to > single user mode and ran > > fsck -y > > I have four partitions on my drive, and the 2nd and 3rd partitions come up > with errors and say run fsck manually. > > When I do: > > fsck -y /dev/ad0s1e > > there's no difference, it just shows me the errors but doesn't fix 'em. I > see (NO WRITE) on the partition which I figure is the problem. > > How do I get fsck to write the changes necessary? I used to know all this > when I admin'd a half dozen boxes for about 5 years but 3 years later with > little to no admin chores anymore I've forgotten. > > Thanks for any assistance you might provide. Haven't seen that. But I wonder - is the partition mounted? If you got to single user by rebooting to it, then it should be. But, if you got there any other way (???) it might not be. Just a shot in the dark, ////jerry > > -gerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 16:43:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EB616A408 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8559F13C4B6 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l21GhmGV068269; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:43:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E702BC.30407@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:43:40 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Never you mind References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> In-Reply-To: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:43:52 -0000 Never you mind wrote: > On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give it the > details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp space > as a drive on the desktop. > > Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce > desktop manager? > The built in "file manager" Thunar doesn't seem to have this functionality (though I stand ready to be corrected if I'm wrong, I tested casually and scanned the manpage), but there are 125 programs in /usr/ports/ftp, and one of them should work. And, just to show that I'm not being overtly cynical here, here's a short list of those programs that seem to be graphical and client-side in nature; perhaps one of them will suit you, or others could comment on their use. Terminals and ftp(1) for me ;-) Note that a] I've probably missed some; b] Those that start with "K" are probably for KDE and might not be something you want to get into (lots of dependencies you may not want) c] possibly ditto with gftp<-->Gnome, and some others may be rather "heavy".... iglooftp wxftp filezilla ftpcube gFTP JFTP Kasablanca Kbear KFTPGRabber llnlxdir multiget waiho wmget wxdfast Xrmftp Kevin Kinsey -- Early to bed and early to rise and you'll be groggy when everyone else is wide awake. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 16:46:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543C216A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1594C13C467 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l21GksCq068300; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:46:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E70378.5070008@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:46:48 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Nielsen References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Never you mind , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:46:58 -0000 John Nielsen wrote: > On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: >> On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give it the >> details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp >> space as a drive on the desktop. >> >> Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce >> desktop manager? > > I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow you to mount > an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing you'll have > to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a shortcut to > your chosen mountpoint should suffice). > And I'll have to apologize for the noise of my last, as John seems to have caught what you were Really Asking(tm). Kevin Kinsey -- panic: kernel trap (ignored) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 16:49:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EA816A406 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EB513C4B4 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so910561nfc for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:49:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=qrYxKc+7SG2+XMh3ny8TiEot+0mIXEIlCzgzbql36H6UlFbcT7KQ0hWRzPlF9mS72a9kLYFO2ddRt4Li38qlOfF4P2NsIoqVbCdZFgldZ1fFxZcx03EodyKmcbq1pzKKv8OjkRD9GOt1UjhS8RvYWkPgfuwyxzSXmp/pPdj6mt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=BLCWWtNaMaQyQVMOc3WLxkxvsHTtBYMF3PnLF8uOwvT45ntO33hUdmM/5gDLNoSYv6eR6bPBWoO0mF6tTGUodCjkbCn5+GaKsS4eqicSTM7aVPaMeDP/QaLV3LaJ3SgaaemRZarQw5x4n9AXStVxgx7YyPzOb8ECTOkozG0JIb4= Received: by 10.82.188.15 with SMTP id l15mr649723buf.1172767749135; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.176.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:49:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:49:09 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Users Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 14eb46781ab60214 Subject: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:49:11 -0000 How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 16:58:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2052816A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47DF13C474 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l21GtO5n083931; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:55:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l21GtOU9083930; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:55:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:55:24 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Steve Franks Message-ID: <20070301165524.GA83891@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:58:01 -0000 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:49:09AM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find > anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an > issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? It's really not an issue. ////jerry > > Thanks, > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 17:02:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F3516A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C542F13C481 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l21H2CfV068433; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:02:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:02:06 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Franks References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:02:17 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find > anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an > issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? > > Thanks, > Steve I'm thinking this one's in the FAQ at freebsd.org. Kevin Kinsey -- HELP! MY TYPEWRITER IS BROKEN! -- E. E. CUMMINGS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 17:11:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D823A16A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in08.adhost.com (mail-in08.adhost.com [216.211.128.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF66513C474 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (unknown [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in08.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1CE8FC47; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:11:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:12:02 -0800 Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031601C59A0F@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: <653028165.20070301005157@rulez.sk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF thread-index: Acdbk9hhv31g+/HKT7yCnYeFTLQPLwAkKoCA References: <653028165.20070301005157@rulez.sk> From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" To: "Daniel Gerzo" , Cc: Subject: RE: pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:11:46 -0000 Hello: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Gerzo > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:52 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF >=20 > Hello pf, >=20 > I'm having the following problem: >=20 > db2# pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf > No ALTQ support in kernel > ALTQ related functions disabled > pfctl: DIOCSETSTATUSIF > Exit 1 > db2# uname -srm > FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Feb 28 23:47:39 CET 2007 amd64 >=20 > pf related items in kernel: >=20 > device pf > device pflog >=20 > -- If you are interested in compiling in ALTQ, use the following kernel options listed below. The error message you are receiving doesn't mean that PF isn't working, however, it just doesn't have ALTQ support. options ALTQ options ALTQ_CBQ options ALTQ_RED options ALTQ_RIO options ALTQ_HFSC options ALTQ_CDNR options ALTQ_PRIQ options ALTQ_NOPCC Regards, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 17:21:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BAD16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD5913C48E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l21HLLR4068544; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:21:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:21:16 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Franks References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:21:24 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Steve Franks wrote: >> How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find >> anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an >> issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve > > I'm thinking this one's in the FAQ at freebsd.org. > Bah! HEADS-UP: Ignore any advice I feel compelled to give today. Two retractions in one hour would seem to demonstrate a cranial short-circuit this morning. Steve, it's not in the FAQ. Here's a link to a brief mailist discussion: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2003-July/000932.html Assuming you have Ghostscript installed (which may be a big IF), you might be able to take a gander at the document mentioned with something like: groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps ps2pdf ~/ffs.ps acroread ~/ffs.pdf But there's probably a better way --- I'm certainly "one offing" today. Kevin Kinsey -- I don't care for the Sugar Smacks commercial. I don't like the idea of a frog jumping on my Breakfast. -- Lowell, Chicago Reader 10/15/82 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 17:27:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E8816A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4BC13C48E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so420952ana for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:27:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kDOLCv1QPaXBlMQIUU9gHMcdFQXebzTEGhWafdvTCXO5UyeDiDkRtBWh8gEbzexfKGSOPVM9Kvkb4pK5tH6+9GSJ7PECzD7RvkjQigPa2Si2MhAbveT9qjCRBX/sB5wiW47JYNfxJFsr0PCNrWShYeIM87OyC5SWKvlKlAqKllE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ScysNsVFJpmcg3+ZIsucRHAbmzAf1KC8+JQ25TuPFjqdU8hB9jOqqAA2/MnoP/GmW0ChtTlvv2rq0rI06Vlg5UcCc5R6JoinrmbxVzYzC+JZ65QjHzom7MtU970/INEoovgDVbheVQuxGCO50HLuS6Noq8Crn6pzcdx/kNx6AoM= Received: by 10.100.124.5 with SMTP id w5mr1643471anc.1172770058033; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.33.5 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:27:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:27:37 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Kevin Kinsey" In-Reply-To: <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> Cc: Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:27:38 -0000 On 3/1/07, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* > ~/ffs.ps /\/\ -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 18:03:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BDF16A409 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E173B13C4AC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from shx250sn1.teliamobile.net (192.71.148.164) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.075) id 45D47D3D003B854B; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:52:29 +0100 Received: from [212.181.241.250] (host-n34-250.homerun.telia.com [212.181.241.250]) by shx250sn1.teliamobile.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l21GqPgl029160; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:52:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <45E62163.8050307@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> References: 458956C6.6080004@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp <45CBCB98.8010607@dbsoft.org> <45D256F2.4040702@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> <0DE3471FD22AB5D08E64ACD1@rambutan.pingpong.net> <45DE9BDF.402@dbsoft.org> <45E62163.8050307@se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7265B918-0EC8-47C6-B6C0-F541B1EE26E9@pingpong.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Palle Girgensohn Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:52:26 +0100 To: Shigeaki Tagashira X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Brian Smith Subject: Re: if_nfe on nVidia chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:03:03 -0000 1 mar 2007 kl. 01.42 skrev Shigeaki Tagashira: > Hello, > > Could you try the latest nfe code for only 7-CURRENT in the > following URL? It was overhauled by Pyun YongHyeon (yongari@). > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/nfe/if_nfe.c > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/nfe/if_nfereg.h > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/nfe/if_nfevar.h I run 6.2-stable. Is it worth testing in this environment? Regards, Palle > > --- > Shigeaki Tagashira > > Brian Smith wrote: >> Palle Girgensohn wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Great news: I can confirm that it works fine when the e1000phy >>> patch was removed on this system. I have not tried this on the >>> system that *did* work fine with the patch, though. >>> >> I reverted to e1000phy.c 1.17 and e1000phyreg.h 1.3 on FreeBSD 7, >> and it now uses the generic driver and correctly detects the >> media. However for me it still doesn't work. Keep getting: >> nfe1: watchdog timeout >> then the link goes down and back up again. >> Wish I had more time to dig around in it. >> Brian > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 18:13:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1330A16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjoern.koenig@alpha-tierchen.de) Received: from mail.liberty-hosting.de (mail.liberty-hosting.de [195.225.132.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C478813C461 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjoern.koenig@alpha-tierchen.de) Received: from mail.liberty-hosting.de ([195.225.132.203]) by localhost (liberty-mail [195.225.132.203]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87902-08; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:13:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from alpha-tierchen.de (port-212-202-170-218.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.170.218]) by mail.liberty-hosting.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16978180D3B; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:13:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.lan [192.168.1.2]) by alpha-tierchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56EA5090C; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:13:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E717E2.7000607@alpha-tierchen.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:13:54 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Hook References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.smartterra.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD X11 settings in Virtual PC 2007 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:13:50 -0000 Hello Anthony, this is my xorg.conf: http://www.alpha-tierchen.de/dateien/etc/xorg.conf-vpc2007.txt Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 18:16:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE32816A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F1513C461 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from toni.schrodinger.com (toni.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.56]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l21IFl87055039; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:15:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [10.10.18.38] (sub22-20.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.22.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by toni.schrodinger.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l21IFifV007636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <45E726B6.4050507@schrodinger.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:17:10 -0800 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061224) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Liu References: <20070301143621.36433.qmail@web35204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20070301143621.36433.qmail@web35204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]); Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:15:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:16:03 -0000 Stephen Liu wrote: > --- DAve wrote: > > >> Patrick Bowen wrote: >> >>> mailing-lists@msdi.ca wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Sorry this question is a little off-topic... >>>> >>>> We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are >>>> >>>> running >>>> freebsd. >>>> >>>> The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial >>>> >> support :( >> >>>> We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform >>>> >> 3 >> >>>> (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be >>>> >> available for >> >>>> freebsd until the end of the year... >>>> >>>> So I will need to setup a machine with linux. >>>> >>>> I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone >>>> >> recommend >> >>>> one to >>>> me please. >>>> >>>> We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, >>>> >> will >> >>>> act >>>> as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports >>>> >> and >> >>>> upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go >>>> >> with >> >>>> Redhat >>>> or any commercial distribution. >>>> >>>> I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing >>>> >> with >> >>>> software installation and updates and I am looking for something >>>> equivalent >>>> on a linux distribution. >>>> >>>> Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, >>>> >> we've >> >>>> check >>>> ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users >>>> >> recommend... >> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Take a look at Slackware. >>> >>> http://www.slackware.com >>> >>> Patrick >>> >> Seconded, if I got to run Linux, I run Slackware (and I have in >> production). If you need it there is a port of Slack to AMD64 called >> slamd64, http://www.slamd64.com/. >> >> FreeBSD users will appreciate it's simplicity and it's stability. >> > > > slamd64-11.0 has issue on nVidia driver, same as FreeBSD 6.2-amd64. > Besides you need to recompile kernel to enable smp technology. Each > time after recompiling/upgrading kernel you need to reinstall the > driver download on nVidia.com. The situation is better than FBSD. I > can't locate driver for FBSD x86_64 on their website, only x_86 > available. The onboard NIC fails to work and X can't work properly > However smp technology is already enabled on FBSD. > > I have slamd64-11.0 and FreeBSD 6.2-amd64 running here. > > I have no knowledge on CentOS. I'm prepared to try it. According to > folks on their forum CentOS supports nVidia chipset without problem. > > > B.R. > Stephen Liu > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Why not give Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) a try. By using Gentoo Linux, you not only get the similar port system, portage, as with FreeBSD, but also enjoy all the benefits Linux can provide. Gentoo Linux is very flexible and has a very good support community. Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 18:21:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5200116A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DD813C4A6 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so934496nfc for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:21:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bA37sMkKfjkLMchcBjNdk6sCBizmtLCCcn0dk5LGUcVXxuImZyr5FmcgSqmqvewy7ho0mJBb934bkkFVdPYrpYRr98vDeJE7rgNHeR3OBEMNuLrd4TQJ3msXE+lVRpXqw1VhsrQr22n0dZz7IJ+Pf6US1LkoP9Y4pRIq3+MCN8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q2vbV7cC8o9750eSg+rVCudq/gU3C/h0h8VfD47fBbNfWO65VM3CrfdCXAu+ESsI1/aXNJJVWEnB+C/WBbgDcaZ2vBOSwSBgZfbt1FSN4soLgZMUtUH3Ivt2cdh5Hzu7cckY7gseVWltPC9yI1kJtEYxD3quhXZuKb6PBI6R1SU= Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr768021buc.1172773262721; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.1 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:21:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:21:02 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Gerry Freymann" In-Reply-To: <20070301101238.7a51585e.lists@interpool.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <841087.71142.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20070301101238.7a51585e.lists@interpool.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FSCK question on FreeBSD 5.4R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:21:04 -0000 On 01/03/07, Gerry Freymann wrote: > I was doing some maintenance on my FreeBSD 5.4R box, and took it down to > single user mode and ran > > fsck -y > > I have four partitions on my drive, and the 2nd and 3rd partitions come up > with errors and say run fsck manually. > > When I do: > > fsck -y /dev/ad0s1e > > there's no difference, it just shows me the errors but doesn't fix 'em. I > see (NO WRITE) on the partition which I figure is the problem. > > How do I get fsck to write the changes necessary? I used to know all this > when I admin'd a half dozen boxes for about 5 years but 3 years later with > little to no admin chores anymore I've forgotten. Is the error (as such): FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK SALVAGE? Because, this is nothing more than an artifact of fsck-ing a live filesystem with softupdates on. Unmount (or maybe downgrade it to read-only). -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 18:21:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9EF16A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts8.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5829D13C4B5 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from localhost ([69.158.191.23]) by simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with SMTP id <20070301182144.YQYN1663.simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost>; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:21:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:21:44 -0500 From: Gerry Freymann To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20070301132144.763879ce.lists@interpool.ca> In-Reply-To: <20070301163912.GB83663@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <841087.71142.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20070301101238.7a51585e.lists@interpool.ca> <20070301163912.GB83663@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: Interpool Development www.interpool.ca X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FSCK question on FreeBSD 5.4R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:21:45 -0000 On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:39:12 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: >On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:12:38AM -0500, Gerry Freymann wrote: > >> I was doing some maintenance on my FreeBSD 5.4R box, and took it down >to > single user mode and ran >> >> fsck -y >> >> I have four partitions on my drive, and the 2nd and 3rd partitions come >up > with errors and say run fsck manually. >> >> When I do: >> >> fsck -y /dev/ad0s1e >> >> there's no difference, it just shows me the errors but doesn't fix 'em. >I > see (NO WRITE) on the partition which I figure is the problem. >> >> How do I get fsck to write the changes necessary? I used to know all >this > when I admin'd a half dozen boxes for about 5 years but 3 years >later with > little to no admin chores anymore I've forgotten. >> >> Thanks for any assistance you might provide. > >Haven't seen that. But I wonder - is the partition mounted? >If you got to single user by rebooting to it, then it should be. >But, if you got there any other way (???) it might not be. I brought it to single user mode by becoming root and doing a shutdown now, and then trying fsck, no go. So then I did a reboot and selected single user mode, tried fsck as indicated above, still wouldn't write the changes. Kinda weird! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 18:22:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BCC16A40D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B5C13C4C1 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l21IMX7e024583; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:22:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l21IMWWt024580; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:22:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:22:32 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Steve Franks In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:22:35 -0000 > How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find > anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an > issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? unless you'll keep your filesystem always near-full it's not an issue. POSSIBLY it could gain few percent improvement with defrag, after long time of usage, but no more. there is AFAIK not defrag for UFS. backup+restore will be defrag From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 18:30:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CD016A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts8.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC3B13C478 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from localhost ([69.158.191.23]) by simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with SMTP id <20070301183003.YTOO1663.simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost>; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:04 -0500 From: Gerry Freymann To: "illoai@gmail.com" Message-Id: <20070301133004.76bc02b8.lists@interpool.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <841087.71142.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20070301101238.7a51585e.lists@interpool.ca> Organization: Interpool Development www.interpool.ca X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FSCK question on FreeBSD 5.4R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:30:05 -0000 On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:21:02 -0600 "illoai@gmail.com" wrote: >Is the error (as such): > >FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK >SALVAGE? > >Because, this is nothing more than an artifact of >fsck-ing a live filesystem with softupdates on. >Unmount (or maybe downgrade it to read-only). Awh, you may have hit the nail on the head. /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad0s1d on /files (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1e on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1f on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1g on /web (ufs, local, soft-updates) Soft updates are on. Is that true even in single user mode? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 18:35:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C8516A408 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554CA13C442 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so938184nfc for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:35:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Lgg2gSYepHprFd4Grd/E+PRhrwr2Ineu17eeE6IYgg6F2Ras7V7tDxFrzUxb6rvuLOkFPMSBBEtk6GTlex3VZIxFAq1qCg6a1a8zZZkYBA/hz4gFB2tBeHQcF++y9zSuTQuYCJcrQIpB68jvoEumo8twjr6kLrRhSaIr8GcDsaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DP20ERfSew2kRJICaPIJPsaujU/RJaxRwF5gc7yLo06VJFm4tzJqeoonm9hbuw9tdr8XyrZE2R6iEGI/d9MP0lME4KAqq5WiAsRhQrHlv4VEkL+ptWNL4vgTA2Bz5faWmeBx9RrxbpQAxNCE4HKh7Q6g1N+FFyPqEZISeAQ2FNM= Received: by 10.82.136.4 with SMTP id j4mr778158bud.1172774150100; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.1 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:35:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:35:49 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070301230603.93bacce8.nick@nickwithers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E6BCFF.3010809@ephgroup.com> <20070301230603.93bacce8.nick@nickwithers.com> Cc: dave@ephgroup.com, Nick Withers Subject: Re: Backup procedure question / theory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:35:53 -0000 On 01/03/07, Nick Withers wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:46:07 +0000 > Dave Carrera wrote: > > > HI All, > > > > I need to automatically once a day backup some files on my Win 2003 > > serve to my remote FreeBSD box running v6. > > > > What i need specifically is to compress the win files as small as > > they can be then either set my FreeBSD box to go a get the file or > > tell win to send it to my FreeBSD box. > > > > The stumbling block here is me, i have absolutely no idea what i > > need to do on each box to achieve this, having never done it before. > > Not necessarily what you're after (may be a little excessive for your > tastes), but I'd recommend Bacula (www.bacula.org). > > Failing that, perhaps a script to zip the files on the Win box then > copy it to a Samba share on the FreeBSD box? Or mount a Windows > share containing the files to be backed up on the FreeBSD box and > bzip2 / gzip them to a file on the FreeBSD machine. A little off-topic > here, perhaps... > Off the top of my head, having a home directory for the backups on the freebsd box and scripting in scp on the windows machine (probably have to install putty since appearantly ssh isn't a standard enough protocol for MS to Embrace and Extend it yet) obviates samba. If you already have samba installed, use that. If you have a reliable and useable nfs client for windows, that would work too. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 19:45:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851BC16A409 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6681013C494 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538C21A4DAB; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 950AC5421E; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:45:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:45:26 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: alex@schnarff.com Message-ID: <20070301194526.GA29334@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070228122108.bhd56o5wn4ss8c4g@mail.schnarff.com> <20070228163430.V12239@familysquires.net> <20070228173948.dwb7tptigo00sgc8@mail.schnarff.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070228173948.dwb7tptigo00sgc8@mail.schnarff.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "Michael L. Squires" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jean Lagarde Subject: Re: Stability Issues on 5.4-RELEASE Box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:45:27 -0000 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:39:48PM -0500, alex@schnarff.com wrote: > >I'm not running your application mix, but I've never seen random reboots > >unless there were hardware issues. With 5.X these included having > >hyperthreading turned on, which I know caused problems with my dual XEON > >system. >=20 > Hmmm...two answers so far, two people saying "hyperthreading can be an=20 > issue." I'll definitely have that turned off ASAP. HTT isn't expected to cause problems at least on modern versions of FreeBSD (I dont remember if old versions like 5.4 have a bug), but it could be if you are running older hardware with broken BIOS support. > >>* Issues with files that are not found on startup sometimes, but are=20 > >>other times. Prime example: the Zope CMS system that's been=20 > >>installed failed to find libmysqlclient.so after a planned soft=20 > >>reboot, but found it with no trouble on a subsequent boot a few=20 > >>minutes later, with no config changes in between. > >> > >Haven't seen that; are there any messages indicating you're having > >filesystem problems? >=20 > Thanks for asking; I see some new nasties in /var/log/messages: >=20 > Feb 27 09:05:37 www fsck: /dev/ad4s1f: PARTIALLY TRUNCATED INODE I=3D9397= 392 > Feb 27 09:05:37 www fsck: /dev/ad4s1f: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE=20 > INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. You definitely need to drop to single-user mode and fsck -f: filesystem corruption can cause many problems. > >>* Given my dmesg below, do you see any specific problems? > > > >The interrupt storm on uhci1+ is not a good thing. >=20 > Any thoughts on how to fix it? You can disable USB support if you do not need it, otherwise a fix will probably involve an upgrade to a newer version as a first step. Kris --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF5y1WWry0BWjoQKURAqzKAKCE1dPTrVKmHnPzpL1i46V5n2mu7ACgkWHg 3jW47HktcSmaXJuNYfYXwOg= =sIih -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 19:50:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608B716A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F2113C491 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5331A4D98; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6DFD8516C4; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:50:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:50:31 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Noah Message-ID: <20070301195031.GB29334@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <45E5F634.9060408@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E5F634.9060408@enabled.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:50:32 -0000 --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 01:37:56PM -0800, Noah wrote: >=20 >=20 > so something strange has happened and my machine no longer boots and I=20 > am not clear why. Here is what happens during boot: >=20 >=20 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: sh > FEnter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: /bin/sh > ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: >=20 > what is the best suggestion for troubleshooting this? That's a pretty serious error, it indicates your system has lost the ability to run any dynamically linked binaries (i.e. almost all of them, by default) because the dynamic linker was removed somehow. The cause of this could either be accidental misuse of rm or similar, filesystem corruption, disk failure, etc. Try to work out what you or the other admins were doing prior to this failure. To repair, you can boot -s and use the statically linked tools in /rescue to try and investigate the cause and possible fix. One thing that might work is that if you have done an installworld on this machine in the past then you might have a useable backup /libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old which you could copy into place. If not, and you can't find a way to get a copy of this file onto the machine, then your remaining alternative would be a reinstall. Kris --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF5y6GWry0BWjoQKURAo4gAJ9Ov0MNqZ+cmP6bXyLrsYgbKD/zQACfVr0U eXvcMNndqjRGdKMgR3z33Ao= =EklS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 20:19:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07F416A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjuanino@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2687D13C467 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjuanino@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so964262nfc for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:19:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-operating-system:user-agent; b=KkfFITavs76XXXGQyLl4IISPCwCrbugJqNuSYMa1rlQkZ33hmSJ841Q8ph8squtPmByfmSb+1WrCd808q/eRhp5zf1fu+0kJ+KB4nMJYfQBqv6kzQNnmSeo93SzixyJIdZYKhioBFveTbjkebBlr65b7hQ4oaZt+BsPBl3WD+BM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-operating-system:user-agent; b=kSLmpzJ9ax2KFlPATYB8V8HMaYZv2gDPW6eaNp6jbWkWLWnmBn38Pwz+tvo0du1a9NPvkb9/fIMzbr37v72BZWo2Zrxg/Fjmo01TnQGZTAbZCBLI7s5iSsrq7rUmBaTJTPyGpc6tA+jgMdaV6FarQJf0j9R3RyzLKbUW+VjTDKk= Received: by 10.49.93.4 with SMTP id v4mr6336827nfl.1172778827931; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauss.sanabria.es ( [83.42.133.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r33sm10010231nfc.2007.03.01.11.53.45; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by gauss.sanabria.es (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E73F8CA4D; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:53:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:53:42 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Garc=EDa?= Juanino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070301195342.GA1320@gauss.sanabria.es> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: freebsd 6.2 oracle php php-oci8 core dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:19:52 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El martes 27 de febrero a las 11:16:44 CET, Dan Cojocar escribi=F3: > Hello all, > I have oracle-xe, lang/php5, > databases/linux-oracle-instantclient-basic, > databases/linux-oracle-instantclient-sdk, databases/oracle8-client and > databases/php5-oci8 > following this howto: http://mrtenente.infosys.lt/blog/?p=3D22 all are > installed without errors. > But when I connect to oracle from php i get a core dump that i cannot=20 > access. > I mention that I have compiled php with debug enabled. > Can somebody suggest another setup? Or how to investigate this? I think databases/oracle8-client port is broken in 6.2-RELEASE. I have inst= alled databases/tora port and it crashes with a core. In 6.1-RELEASE works well. My settings: WITHOUT_MYSQL=3D1 WITHOUT_PGSQL=3D1 WITHOUT_KDE=3D1 Regards --=20 http://personales.ya.com/banach --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF5y9GFOo0zaS9RnIRAoAwAJ9XpU+SUf6ON3blLsCDCmmL/RjkrACggFwd y1Y7gsyifHws2aeBP1Tfe/Q= =WMMJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 20:26:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1B316A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D8D13C467 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 16B4E37E4F; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:26:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C4A37E4F; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:26:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0C237E47; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:26:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E73700.9000503@passagen.se> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:26:40 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dave@ephgroup.com References: <45E6BCFF.3010809@ephgroup.com> In-Reply-To: <45E6BCFF.3010809@ephgroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup procedure question / theory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:26:02 -0000 Hello Dave, May I suggest that you try rsync for this? For windows cwrsync works fine as client for Windows XP. It's rather easy to setup and can be triggered by the windows machine since it runs as a .bat or .cmd. For FreeBSD rsync is in ports. With some nifty scripting you can setup the FreeBSD side to rotate the backups. There is a very good starting point for this at http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ . Good luck! Dave Carrera skrev: > HI All, > > I need to automatically once a day backup some files on my Win 2003 > serve to my remote FreeBSD box running v6. > > What i need specifically is to compress the win files as small as they > can be then either set my FreeBSD box to go a get the file or tell win > to send it to my FreeBSD box. > > The stumbling block here is me, i have absolutely no idea what i need to > do on each box to achieve this, having never done it before. > > So i ask if any kind persons on the list can advise or even help me with > this. > > Many kind regards > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 20:31:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7F816A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651BA13C461 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.23.10.40] (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l21KVdWQ049318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:31:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45E73821.5090506@enabled.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:31:29 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <45E5F634.9060408@enabled.com> <20070301195031.GB29334@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20070301195031.GB29334@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 [solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:31:37 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 01:37:56PM -0800, Noah wrote: >> >> so something strange has happened and my machine no longer boots and I >> am not clear why. Here is what happens during boot: >> >> >> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a >> WARNING: / was not properly dismounted >> ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found >> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: >> ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found >> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: sh >> FEnter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: /bin/sh >> ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found >> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: >> ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found >> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: >> ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found >> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: >> ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found >> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: >> >> what is the best suggestion for troubleshooting this? > > That's a pretty serious error, it indicates your system has lost the > ability to run any dynamically linked binaries (i.e. almost all of > them, by default) because the dynamic linker was removed somehow. The > cause of this could either be accidental misuse of rm or similar, > filesystem corruption, disk failure, etc. Try to work out what you or > the other admins were doing prior to this failure. > > To repair, you can boot -s and use the statically linked tools in > /rescue to try and investigate the cause and possible fix. One thing > that might work is that if you have done an installworld on this > machine in the past then you might have a useable backup > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old which you could copy into place. If not, and > you can't find a way to get a copy of this file onto the machine, then > your remaining alternative would be a reinstall. > > Kris thanks we used /rescue and saves the system From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 20:32:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2450D16A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrpt@catholic.org) Received: from pecan.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3313C48D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrpt@catholic.org) Received: from 28.101.233.220.exetel.com.au ([220.233.101.28] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by pecan.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMrwW-0007kE-GW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:32:00 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Never you mind Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:31:59 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:32:02 -0000 On 02/03/2007, at 2:58 AM, John Nielsen wrote: > On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: >> On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give it >> the >> details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp >> space as a drive on the desktop. >> >> Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce >> desktop manager? > > I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow you > to mount > an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing you'll > have > to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a shortcut > to > your chosen mountpoint should suffice). thanks John, That sounds like what I want. I have previously used KDE as the desktop manager and it included graphical tools which managed this job. However, I'm learning to like xfce and looking at what I can do to make it work for me. malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 20:50:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8622B16A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A3D13C441 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so972262nfc for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:50:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=kQu7R5gUuphn5AmYivsbPNjQ6mvBB/KbWOtTEyFg94RqU3RYG8cOaYVi7SING2TsgExva3R7jyGsA98O9bLL0bF6fGAj9Yk/dQmYH0cdJnnnLxOgq1Hf5PVyPlObmP4Hm1anXjmjZ/K9tXdpo3YGzKG/hls4QM9JqfuSYbEpFvM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=nYqwoMKIrk3msf8FZBk4qSe9DznMyuAPFVWXaCQXdJmTTATKgWBQ8rjyDsLJfIAvl1Sna/7OFC1GAozyRKqHLBef7lG3BDStmkx+kX4RO8jSnZB6kgzkjAX7yJ2tkcYqGmNBHjgXoMx8L1FDwM0fDhPez8zFTJlDi2reZZE6Uew= Received: by 10.82.116.15 with SMTP id o15mr815849buc.1172782244552; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.176.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:50:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90703011250y7ad5b475v936b4d357549d50e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:50:44 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Kevin Kinsey" In-Reply-To: <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 95cde9af93b07934 Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:50:46 -0000 Excellent! Never had that one answered. I've gone down the typical road of being an MS booster ("It doesn't take 10 hours to set up and configure") to experiencing glee when I find yet another way FBSD kicks the crap out of MS. Why? Because I've grown up, and learned that 2 hours time spent *reading* and configuring is way better than 2 days time spent when the system crashes in the middle of the workweek - bottom line, BSD is cheaper before, during, and after installation. Probably by a factor of 10 for me over the last 10 years. As I write this, I'm on a MS laptop that has degraded to the point where any disk acess takes 10 seconds before the display updates (but not from the shell - so not a defrag issue, just a screwed registry or something). I used to reinstall my entire MS server every 6 months, on average... Steve On 3/1/07, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Steve Franks wrote: > >> How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find > >> anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an > >> issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Steve > > > > I'm thinking this one's in the FAQ at freebsd.org. > > > > Bah! HEADS-UP: Ignore any advice I feel compelled to give today. Two > retractions in one hour would seem to demonstrate a cranial > short-circuit this morning. Steve, it's not in the FAQ. > > Here's a link to a brief mailist discussion: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2003-July/000932.html > > Assuming you have Ghostscript installed (which may be a big IF), you > might be able to take a gander at the document mentioned with something > like: > > groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps > ps2pdf ~/ffs.ps > acroread ~/ffs.pdf > > But there's probably a better way --- I'm certainly "one offing" today. > > Kevin Kinsey > -- > I don't care for the Sugar Smacks commercial. I don't like the idea of > a frog jumping on my Breakfast. > -- Lowell, Chicago Reader 10/15/82 > > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:09:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11F716A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E0313C48D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l21L6w4O085935; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:06:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l21L6wmb085934; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:06:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:06:58 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20070301210658.GA85873@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:09:42 -0000 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:21:16AM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >Steve Franks wrote: > >>How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find > >>anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an > >>issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Steve > > > >I'm thinking this one's in the FAQ at freebsd.org. > > > > Bah! HEADS-UP: Ignore any advice I feel compelled to give today. Two > retractions in one hour would seem to demonstrate a cranial > short-circuit this morning. Steve, it's not in the FAQ. It should be, maybe including a pointer to that /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs paper. It is frequently asked. ////jerry > > Here's a link to a brief mailist discussion: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2003-July/000932.html > > Assuming you have Ghostscript installed (which may be a big IF), you > might be able to take a gander at the document mentioned with something > like: > > groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps > ps2pdf ~/ffs.ps > acroread ~/ffs.pdf > > But there's probably a better way --- I'm certainly "one offing" today. > > Kevin Kinsey > -- > I don't care for the Sugar Smacks commercial. I don't like the idea of > a frog jumping on my Breakfast. > -- Lowell, Chicago Reader 10/15/82 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:10:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DB316A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AF413C4B3 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so807866wri for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:10:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jtd3dyDKmDyalKILdqUjCs88uDDNq1Fqkzq3VWYJ8aoJEQtlXiuosjQgGmQFG3VO9a2Ej3lkIxkrgesXmP+hYEAy4plf6LWWGOD+/PyPmW/Lcrmnan/VoRTm6Exn2c7riGfOv557OlsW5YX1YP9Pkj6BU7zuRrCDbVG61P8pv5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jWI/IKfFPh6cLsxEHrELQbWyXhGdMju3xvmv8JBw/56Nu+65DLb29CtgbkvNmE9YWkdhEmgBGKfLe4Ho2dt5vMbo+cv4aVSLu3qOs2ZufwaAHPOy35sLyYf5WLxVQ0yVPPPqkPSBPmzldyUrgM7dLeb5XQx97mGXFT2MceIHoss= Received: by 10.114.156.1 with SMTP id d1mr118639wae.1172783411626; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.12 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:10:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6207f7d90703011310m2ffe7740i25c01aa748a79ae9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:10:11 -0500 From: "Don Munyak" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <45E6DBB0.9050603@hier7.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6207f7d90703010553t745460aap9cdc3f8a03ffaf69@mail.gmail.com> <45E6DBB0.9050603@hier7.com> Subject: Fwd: IPF (ftp - pkg_add) help requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:10:15 -0000 Apart from up dating to newer version, I don't see how upgrading to 6.2 will make a difference. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to reply. However, the solution is as follows. Incidentally, this had nothing to do with pkg_add And everything to do with FTP and IPFILTER. =============== Diagnosis... {IPMON results} # ipmon 01/03/2007 15:03:39.112348 em0 @0:17 b 192.168.222.69,63507 -> 204.152.184.73,63471 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT 01/03/2007 15:04:09.128610 em0 @0:17 b 192.168.222.69,57187 -> 62.243.72.50,59250 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT 01/03/2007 15:04:17.756186 em0 @0:17 b 192.168.222.69,59469 -> 204.152.184.73,55984 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT 01/03/2007 15:04:23.832928 em0 @0:17 b 192.168.222.69,62647 -> 62.243.72.50,58387 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT My server was opening an additional session using ports > 1024, which I was not initially allowing. ipf was blocking outbound due to this rule. This is a known issue with ftp client sessions using active mode when behind a firewall. # Block and Log the first occurance of everything else block out log first quick on em0 all Solution.... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipf.html section 26.5.21.1 IPNAT Rules {or} section 26.5.21.2 IPNAT FTP Filter Rules I chose 26.5.21.2 for simplicity. This proabably isn't a major issue for me, since the server will be located behind a border (LAN) firewall. Basically changed: # Allow ftp out pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 flags S keep state pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep state { to...} # Allow ftp out pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep state pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port > 1024 flags S keep state { and added } #Allow Active mode data channel from ftp server pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 flags S keep state ============ For good reading {Official IPF home page} http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:14:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6242216A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1470E13C48E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l21LEEqK070254; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:14:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E7421E.905@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:14:06 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Franks References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> <539c60b90703011250y7ad5b475v936b4d357549d50e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703011250y7ad5b475v936b4d357549d50e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:14:17 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > Excellent! Never had that one answered. I've gone down the typical > road of being an MS booster ("It doesn't take 10 hours to set up and > configure") to experiencing glee when I find yet another way FBSD > kicks the crap out of MS. Why? Because I've grown up, and learned > that 2 hours time spent *reading* and configuring is way better than 2 > days time spent when the system crashes in the middle of the workweek > - bottom line, BSD is cheaper before, during, and after installation. > Probably by a factor of 10 for me over the last 10 years. As I write > this, I'm on a MS laptop that has degraded to the point where any disk > acess takes 10 seconds before the display updates (but not from the > shell - so not a defrag issue, just a screwed registry or something). > I used to reinstall my entire MS server every 6 months, on average... > > Steve There are some advantages to FBSD, for certain. Your last sentence is a huge example, although I know some Winservers that have been running on the same "install" for quite some time (but some of those have to be rebooted fairly often). A big *BSD argument is uptime - my personal server record is ~450 days, but you do kinda worry because there was probably supposed to be a security fix with a new kernel somewhere during that time period.... Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps >> ps2pdf ~/ffs.ps >> acroread ~/ffs.pdf >> >> But there's probably a better way --- I'm certainly "one offing" today. >> > groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* > ~/ffs.ps Err, yes; that's today's "one off groff" ... thanks. Never type what you can copy/paste.... B-/ KDK -- Hear about... the guru who refused Novocain while having a tooth pulled because he wanted to transcend dental medication? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:21:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575FE16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE9513C4AA for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l21LLQTS070299; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:21:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E743D0.5060606@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:21:20 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <200703011500.l21F0JSV065383@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <200703011825.24343.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200703011825.24343.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: Re: Best anoncvs Site to Update 6.2 Sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:21:35 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > On Thursday 01 March 2007 17:00, Martin McCormick wrote: >> After installing FreeBSD6.2 from the ISO image, I figured >> that cvsup would be the best way to update the new system and >> apply the patches which have come out since the image was >> created. I think I have cvsup ready to go, but I can't tell for >> sure since the mirror site I picked was the first one in the list >> for the United states. It is anoncvs.FreeBSD.org and is obviously >> quite popular. cvsup tried all night long to connect and never >> got in . The next mirror site for the US is >> anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org and it appears to be down. Since all I need >> is to update all the sources for FreeBSD6.2, is there a better >> choice of sites? I got these 2 site names from the FreeBSD >> handbook. > > anoncvs is not CVSup. anoncvs.freebsd.org is an anonymous cvs > server. > > You can find CVSup mirrors (and other information) here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > HTH, Nikos The mirrors are in the form "cvsupN.freebsd.org". I use cvsup12, cvsup13, cvsup6 from SW Missouri (and my upstream links go through NE Oklahoma, dunno if they are close to you or not). It might be worth the time to install /usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup to help find the fastest/nearest servers for your installation area. HTH, Kevin Kinsey -- Money is truthful. If a man speaks of his honor, make him pay cash. -- Lazarus Long From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:27:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F14116A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@more.net) Received: from jane.spg.more.net (jane.spg.more.net [207.160.133.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6216C13C4BA for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@more.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.spg.more.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123369C051 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:27:20 -0600 (CST) From: Dan D Niles To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:27:19 -0600 Message-Id: <1172784439.14922.47.camel@jane.spg.more.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Serial Port Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:27:16 -0000 More Dell 2950 woes. I use serial ports to manage my FreeBSD machines remotely. I've never had any problems until now. I've installed FreeBSD 6.2 on a Dell 2950. The install goes without problems over the serial port. After the reboot, I get the typical: FreeBSD/i386 (test.host.net) (ttyd0) login: and I can log in just fine. If I disconnect and come back later (sometimes), or if I hit return without entering a login name (always) it starts spitting out junk like: nooo~:Woo{;>6(|uww~now~nou})|t}}t9- I can log in blind, but everything is scrambled. Here is what I see after logging in: nooo~:ro}Zqsswv~?Nmswtloooo~:t|}}msr 1115?;5>:3ontt}}t=Koy{{oo| t(kk)19;??2077t|mefvwgSWdproogw~/Koy{{oo| t(kk)17?=,1998<,199;?=99>>,1998<,199<,1999=,199;>,19;?,199==* t| merwggo~wsoot|meuowws{}}ofccmmoo~oio.lllr{oo| wsrwwwwwen/NvwegSWd.>?WMMESWe({_]p#3::fv{ijkon1331;:5?;30uUWc227?_wmooometovwegSWe-Jggvwesweokoogtugkikcmlswupv|,puesweuwwet|mefooooogrwwwsg?oo swgww{}taev{{mwsaonuuteuuedewrsuuannomu}oonforlllrwmmeswwsaswo* auth|ttz?/wnvwegSWnowo~mesww/--amwyycoow}|tt|meeWSUUaswgw}ooo* forywrrwmmessfo{swtassi}wwspteuuedfvwuuuo~}/oo t|mehiefoookaondfGQqdgw}mo~wsasweauttttz?/wwnvwegFnowo/aonl-* amooogw}|ht|meaimmooglm{ww,conbgeswesskmedbbgoooogto* h|tz?/wwnvwegSowowessko/. fft|medoocdm{wvrwu}oonhis* eeoniowumlmel,hm}wweamoawwmmcnmefomutuemon/ws{iswoogo/Kofyusw|llhiwweaaquuwwonorpronmmm,lmeswetukoet|meuutuutooojuomm-mg/,amooogw}taoyrwmmwwo~tewrmmwssggw,aedemmimli}}kss quuww}oontot|hquuww}oosFvwewWnowgmmimmoogi{w~. iofyuasngmmmmisrwihfvwegSWgwsdm{sw{ylmyu|,pueswerwggwrtotuehimwz??-omo}lpqggo. iofyuswenotfgmmmmiaw}|hmmoumlpqew,t}yue`mmonmoo//[ummyylouwwes{{{ow|ll89)torwmmo~vrt|meiowumlmuonaonmkoonoowuu}oonuu}mm}}.eem}t/ouwoootdoockiooget|i{slooonaonoogmmon/~uwww# If I exit things go back to normal until I disconnect for a while or hit return without a login name. I tried loading an older FreeBSD to see if it was a hardware issue or a FreeBSD issue, but my disks (mfi) aren't supported. It seems like the speed of the tty is getting out of sync. HELP! Any ideas? Thanks, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:39:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D7F16A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E3613C467 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HMsyN-0004JH-Pf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:38:00 +0100 Received: from 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([83.131.168.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:37:59 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:37:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:35:25 +0100 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5BD5ED00E55070DB68C83F02" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:39:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5BD5ED00E55070DB68C83F02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Franks wrote: > How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find > anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an > issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? fsck will tell you the level of fragmentation on the file system: > fsck /usr ** /dev/ad0s2g (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on /usr ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 352462 files, 2525857 used, 875044 free (115156 frags, 94986 blocks, 3.4% fragmentation) This is from a /usr system that's been in use for years. (note that "frags" in the last line refer to file system fragments - "subblocks", not fragmented files). --------------enig5BD5ED00E55070DB68C83F02 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF50ckldnAQVacBcgRApmfAKCjk285vfjoH37T01EO4q9FJuQYfwCdGNZM 80+NN/27SQDItL47AuPDtB8= =ECdt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5BD5ED00E55070DB68C83F02-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:46:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD2116A407 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36A4B13C4A5 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 37382 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2007 21:46:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 21:46:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Gb3FFrsVM1lockBwnH1Z8EVlF0afISDR6XEMDjjGgr7gpciCSJpRvepgQbiv8Z6.PQ-- Message-ID: <45E749AD.7050500@hier7.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:46:21 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <6207f7d90703010553t745460aap9cdc3f8a03ffaf69@mail.gmail.com> <45E6DBB0.9050603@hier7.com> <6207f7d90703011310m2ffe7740i25c01aa748a79ae9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6207f7d90703011310m2ffe7740i25c01aa748a79ae9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Fwd: IPF (ftp - pkg_add) help requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:46:19 -0000 Ahh, totally makes sense. Sorry for the misguided reply, it was late and I thought there had been kernel changes with ipf in 6.2 but in fact that was ipfw. Glad to hear you figured this out! - Chris Don Munyak wrote: > Apart from up dating to newer version, I don't see how upgrading to > 6.2 will make a difference. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to > reply. > > However, the solution is as follows. > Incidentally, this had nothing to do with pkg_add > And everything to do with FTP and IPFILTER. > > =============== > Diagnosis... > > {IPMON results} > # ipmon > 01/03/2007 15:03:39.112348 em0 @0:17 b 192.168.222.69,63507 -> > 204.152.184.73,63471 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT > 01/03/2007 15:04:09.128610 em0 @0:17 b 192.168.222.69,57187 -> > 62.243.72.50,59250 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT > 01/03/2007 15:04:17.756186 em0 @0:17 b 192.168.222.69,59469 -> > 204.152.184.73,55984 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT > 01/03/2007 15:04:23.832928 em0 @0:17 b 192.168.222.69,62647 -> > 62.243.72.50,58387 PR tcp len 20 48 -S OUT > > My server was opening an additional session using ports > 1024, which > I was not initially allowing. ipf was blocking outbound due to this > rule. This is a known issue with ftp client sessions using active mode > when behind a firewall. > > # Block and Log the first occurance of everything else > block out log first quick on em0 all > > Solution.... > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipf.html > > section 26.5.21.1 IPNAT Rules {or} > section 26.5.21.2 IPNAT FTP Filter Rules > > I chose 26.5.21.2 for simplicity. This proabably isn't a major issue > for me, since the server will be located behind a border (LAN) > firewall. Basically changed: > > # Allow ftp out > pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 flags S keep > state > pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep > state > > { to...} > > # Allow ftp out > pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep > state > pass out quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port > 1024 flags S keep > state > > { and added } > > #Allow Active mode data channel from ftp server > pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 flags S keep state > > ============ > > For good reading {Official IPF home page} > http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html > > Don > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:47:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103F416A406 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceo@l-i-e.com) Received: from o2.hostbaby.com (o2.hostbaby.com [67.139.134.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8917413C4B4 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceo@l-i-e.com) Received: (qmail 36553 invoked by uid 98); 1 Mar 2007 21:47:26 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88.7/2690. 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Processed in 0.135919 secs) Received: from localhost (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 21:47:26 -0000 Received: from 216.230.84.67 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:47:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41224.216.230.84.67.1172785646.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:47:26 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Lynch" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:47:25 -0000 On Thu, March 1, 2007 3:35 pm, Ivan Voras wrote: > Steve Franks wrote: >> How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find >> anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an >> issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? I've been told that most modern file systems have much better allocation routines and/or automated defragmentation as needed. So that the need to do "defrag" is essentially almost 0 for almost all users. No promises that this answer is correct, but it sure sounded good to me. -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:50:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E0616A40A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6375213C4C5 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.61]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:50:55 -0500 id 00056436.45E74ABF.0000F63C Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:50:55 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Ivan Voras Message-Id: <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:50:56 -0000 In response to Ivan Voras : > Steve Franks wrote: > > How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find > > anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an > > issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? > > fsck will tell you the level of fragmentation on the file system: > > > fsck /usr > ** /dev/ad0s2g (NO WRITE) > ** Last Mounted on /usr > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames > ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity > ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts > ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups > 352462 files, 2525857 used, 875044 free (115156 frags, 94986 blocks, > 3.4% fragmentation) > > This is from a /usr system that's been in use for years. (note that > "frags" in the last line refer to file system fragments - "subblocks", > not fragmented files). Just to reiterate: "Fragmentation" on a Windows filesystem is _not_ the same as "fragmentation" on a unix file system. They are not comparable numbers, and do not mean the same thing. The only way to avoid fragmentation on a unix file system is to make every file you create equal to a multiple of the block size. And unix fragmentation does not degrade performance unless the file system is close to full. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:51:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A854816A40B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F8D13C4AC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 25554 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 08:51:06 +1100 Received: from 203-217-48-136.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.48.136) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 08:51:06 +1100 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:51:00 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:51:07 -0000 On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:22:32 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > backup+restore will be defrag you mean : backup, format, (reinstall if needed, depending on method of backup) and restore - or simply restore on top (if you backed up everything and can access your drive offline). simply overwriting the existing files won't change anything, would it? You'd need a clean slate to do a defrag this way... _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Software isn't released.... it escapes. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:55:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6166F16A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E0013C478 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 25728 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 08:55:47 +1100 Received: from 203-217-48-136.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.48.136) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 08:55:47 +1100 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:55:41 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Simon Gao Message-ID: <20070302085541.602eb85f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45E726B6.4050507@schrodinger.com> References: <20070301143621.36433.qmail@web35204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45E726B6.4050507@schrodinger.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Stephen Liu , DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:55:48 -0000 On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:17:10 -0800 Simon Gao wrote: > Why not give Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) a try. By using Gentoo Linux, > you not only get the similar port system, portage, as with FreeBSD, but > also enjoy all the benefits Linux can provide. Gentoo Linux is very > flexible and has a very good support community. risking making this a discussion about linux : I've used gentoo... portage is OK.... but is nowhere near as good as the ports collection, IMHO. First, you need to build everything from scratch, no binary packages. There is an annoying split of portage sections (dev | production | good | bad | pink ..whatever), that someone else puts on you, rather than allow you to chose what to use. And masked ports?! -USE flags are confusing, to me (global? local? ) Anyway..maybe I haven't got the patience needed for linux....i rather get on with life :D _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:56:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6594516A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CBE13C442 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HMtGI-0007S7-Ko for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:56:30 +0100 Received: from 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([83.131.168.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:56:30 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:56:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:56:02 +0100 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <41224.216.230.84.67.1172785646.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig745F8A36D67E9FDE69615EAA" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <41224.216.230.84.67.1172785646.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:56:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig745F8A36D67E9FDE69615EAA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Lynch wrote: > On Thu, March 1, 2007 3:35 pm, Ivan Voras wrote: >> Steve Franks wrote: >>> How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find >>> anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an >>> issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? >=20 > I've been told that most modern file systems have much better > allocation routines and/or automated defragmentation as needed. >=20 > So that the need to do "defrag" is essentially almost 0 for almost all > users. For what it's worth, this has been Microsoft's official position since NTFS became mainstream. --------------enig745F8A36D67E9FDE69615EAA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF50vyldnAQVacBcgRAhZEAKC9umcGnvtthfyzKW2oNyCxB0CGjgCfRKkH DKr9Aijao3cji2aRyQuPbdw= =lbao -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig745F8A36D67E9FDE69615EAA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:03:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB9A16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C688613C4C4 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2007 17:03:40 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id IID10094; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2007 17:02:54 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17895.19791.931924.827359@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:01:51 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41224.216.230.84.67.1172785646.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <41224.216.230.84.67.1172785646.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:03:41 -0000 Richard Lynch writes: > So that the need to do "defrag" is essentially almost 0 for > almost all users. For one of my boxes, with three filesystems, the "frag %" has been (0,8, 0.4, 1.1). For n>5 years. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:04:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF21316A404 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samjones1986@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9781F13C49D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samjones1986@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so508183wxc for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:04:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=lwHAWB4CCQ3R8YEIxvdHHs1aJjqWI+TN53NapcnGBy2h122aGk9rROCze9fyiRAfUaLqWaeg4F6ClpPdkr6GuuZ80Y4aecw3ZO6Z/iBJ5xMzbGHw8qAE80WnCuZrEdu/APUaUgwAOUgBWhkzei2msPiLPjd4XUgaNXcxU0Z5+5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tuUZ6ZtgtQ/ZKuVtOctaRVcZdJFf1gVZeT89lDmsLprEmc+6BDXZ+Z1klNcUBR2+L5CqP+xRoosJ8W59qgihrqhhdQYC/26KOdJ8YPckn2DrLYaChRA6eQ+6fBY1UsNk+3bIjqhAAvaURZHsoBmn4REQNxRMDSHlEXrY/L337GQ= Received: by 10.70.131.20 with SMTP id e20mr3463437wxd.1172785006218; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.45.13 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:36:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:36:45 -0500 From: "Sam Jones" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:04:47 -0000 I'm having a little problem trying to dual boot. I have two SATA hard drives, the first one with FreeBSD and the second with Windows XP. I installed the FreeBSD boot manager on the first drive, and when the computer boots, it displays: F1 FreeBSD F5 Drive 1 When I press F5, FreeBSD loads and not Windows. I know Windows is working because when I disconnect the first drive, Windows boots from the second just fine. I've tried using boot0cfg to reload the boot manager, but that doesn't help. The simplest thing to do would be to specify that F5 boots Windows, but I can't find anything. Is this configuration even possible? Or does Windows just make it impossible to boot from the second disk? -- Sam Jones sjone9ek@umw.edu samjones1986@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:05:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF03616A406 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5485E13C48D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HMtOi-0000Pj-JN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:05:12 +0100 Received: from 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([83.131.168.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:05:12 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:05:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:04:52 +0100 Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2FD6ED76A041AD7142E46C7E" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:05:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2FD6ED76A041AD7142E46C7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Ivan Voras : >> 352462 files, 2525857 used, 875044 free (115156 frags, 94986 blocks, >> 3.4% fragmentation) >=20 > Just to reiterate: > "Fragmentation" on a Windows filesystem is _not_ the same as "fragmenta= tion" > on a unix file system. They are not comparable numbers, and do not mea= n > the same thing. The only way to avoid fragmentation on a unix file sys= tem > is to make every file you create equal to a multiple of the block size.= Ok, my point was that 3.4% is a low number for a long used system, but, for education sake, what is the difference between Windows' "fragmentation" and Unix's "fragmentation"? I believe that a "fragmented file" in common usage refers to a file which is not stored continuously on the drive - i.e. it occupies more than one continuous region. How is UFS fragmentation different than fragmentation on other kinds of file systems? UFS has cylinder groups, blocks and block fragments. Obviously, a file larger than a cylinder group will get fragmented to spill over to another cylinder group. Block fragments only occur at the end of files. --------------enig2FD6ED76A041AD7142E46C7E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF504EldnAQVacBcgRAoz/AKDgbH7STCc6OzVe0wFVjvg7GrTHxQCfX5St Y9QDYxZVSBpmGz19hbsJ1Tg= =VqjP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2FD6ED76A041AD7142E46C7E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:20:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE92216A401 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759B613C428 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l21MHd9d086207; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:17:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l21MHcDH086206; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:17:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:17:38 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Norberto Meijome Message-ID: <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:20:16 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:51:00AM +1100, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:22:32 +0100 (CET) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > backup+restore will be defrag > > you mean : backup, format, (reinstall if needed, depending on method of backup) > and restore - or simply restore on top (if you backed up everything and can > access your drive offline). > > simply overwriting the existing files won't change anything, would it? You'd > need a clean slate to do a defrag this way... Well, it would do some, but for the greatest effect, you would need: dump + rm -rf * + restore That would get it all. You could be really extreme and do: dump + newfs + restore if you wanted to, to be sure of a clean file system You would not need a reformat (though some people really mean newfs when they say reformat) and you would not need any reinstall. But, if you did this on the root partition, you would have to to the restore from some other boot such as on a different disk or from the fixit utility on the installation CD. That shouldn't be necessary for any other file system unless you foolishly put /sbin in a partition other than / (root). ////jerry > _________________________ > {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome > > Software isn't released.... it escapes. > > I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. > Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been > Warned. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:21:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4C016A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (7-137-58-66.gci.net [66.58.137.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC7D13C471 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345BC7D92; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:21:48 -0900 (AKST) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD Port Maintainer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:21:24 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2944511.KYbaczalfG"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: Sam Jones Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beech@alaskaparadise.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:21:50 -0000 --nextPart2944511.KYbaczalfG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 01 March 2007 12:36, Sam Jones said: > I'm having a little problem trying to dual boot. I have two SATA > hard drives, the first one with FreeBSD and the second with Windows > XP. I installed the FreeBSD boot manager on the first drive, and > when the computer boots, it displays: > > F1 FreeBSD > F5 Drive 1 > > When I press F5, FreeBSD loads and not Windows. I know Windows is > working because when I disconnect the first drive, Windows boots > from the second just fine. I've tried using boot0cfg to reload the > boot manager, but that doesn't help. The simplest thing to do would > be to specify that F5 boots Windows, but I can't find anything. > > Is this configuration even possible? Or does Windows just make it > impossible to boot from the second disk? You need to switch your drives around and setup accordingly. Windows=20 (at least in my experience) will not boot from anything but the first=20 drive. Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart2944511.KYbaczalfG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF51H2p5D0B1NlT4URAjpIAJ9qbxHgBgV+UX9L0suPz190MnBS0ACfanLz 6qVUGQZ+8Ydt+6A3UmmwZno= =QtAS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2944511.KYbaczalfG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:21:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C2E16A411 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D4A13C4AA for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.61]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:21:58 -0500 id 00056436.45E75206.0000FAB5 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:21:57 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Ivan Voras Message-Id: <20070301172157.8fc10842.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:21:59 -0000 In response to Ivan Voras : > Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to Ivan Voras : > > >> 352462 files, 2525857 used, 875044 free (115156 frags, 94986 blocks, > >> 3.4% fragmentation) > > > > > Just to reiterate: > > "Fragmentation" on a Windows filesystem is _not_ the same as "fragmentation" > > on a unix file system. They are not comparable numbers, and do not mean > > the same thing. The only way to avoid fragmentation on a unix file system > > is to make every file you create equal to a multiple of the block size. > > Ok, my point was that 3.4% is a low number for a long used system, but, > for education sake, what is the difference between Windows' > "fragmentation" and Unix's "fragmentation"? > > I believe that a "fragmented file" in common usage refers to a file > which is not stored continuously on the drive - i.e. it occupies more > than one continuous region. How is UFS fragmentation different than > fragmentation on other kinds of file systems? That common usage refers to Windows filesystems. In unix filesystems, fragmentation refers to the number of blocks that have been broken down in to fragments to either hold files smaller than a block, or (as you mentioned) use the space at the end of a file that doesn't fit exactly in a block. > UFS has cylinder groups, blocks and block fragments. Obviously, a file > larger than a cylinder group will get fragmented to spill over to > another cylinder group. Block fragments only occur at the end of files. Yes, and UFS _intentionally_ creates what Windows users would call "fragmentation" There's no way I know of to measure this, however. The key to understanding this is that not all fragmentation is bad. Typically, files are accessed in chunks. Your OS seldom grabs an entire 50M file all at once -- it grabs (perhaps) 16 blocks worth, then sends it to the requesting program, then grabs another 16 blocks worth, etc, etc. The time between grabbing a chunk is enough that allowing the heads time to reposition to a difference cylinder group doesn't cause a significant performance problem. As a result, the OS _intentionally_ switches to a different cylinder group after a certain number of blocks have been written (this is tunable with tunefs). The result is that a large file will typically be strewn about the disk. But this also makes it _easy_ for the filesystem to avoid causing the type of fragmentation that _does_ degrade performance. For example, when the first block is on track 10, then the next block is on track 20, then we're back to track 10 again, then over to track 35 ... etc, etc Keep in mind, that in the previous 3 paragraphs, I was using the "Windows" definition of "fragmentation." -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:26:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E6C16A407 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFA213C494 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 26715 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2007 22:26:13 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2007 22:26:13 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2876028431; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:26:12 -0500 (EST) To: Norberto Meijome References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:26:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> (Norberto Meijome's message of "Fri\, 2 Mar 2007 08\:51\:00 +1100") Message-ID: <44vehky518.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Users Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:26:13 -0000 Norberto Meijome writes: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:22:32 +0100 (CET) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> backup+restore will be defrag > > you mean : backup, format, (reinstall if needed, depending on method of backup) > and restore - or simply restore on top (if you backed up everything and can > access your drive offline). > > simply overwriting the existing files won't change anything, would it? You'd > need a clean slate to do a defrag this way... Right. That's what the "-r" flag to restore(8) is for. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:30:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B0A16A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (7-137-58-66.gci.net [66.58.137.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BE313C442 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4D57D92; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:50 -0900 (AKST) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD Port Maintainer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:26 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> In-Reply-To: <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4030647.S0Pk6WYJ7h"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: Sam Jones Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beech@alaskaparadise.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:30:55 -0000 --nextPart4030647.S0Pk6WYJ7h Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 01 March 2007 13:21, Beech Rintoul said: > On Thursday 01 March 2007 12:36, Sam Jones said: > > I'm having a little problem trying to dual boot. I have two SATA > > hard drives, the first one with FreeBSD and the second with > > Windows XP. I installed the FreeBSD boot manager on the first > > drive, and when the computer boots, it displays: > > > > F1 FreeBSD > > F5 Drive 1 > > > > When I press F5, FreeBSD loads and not Windows. I know Windows is > > working because when I disconnect the first drive, Windows boots > > from the second just fine. I've tried using boot0cfg to reload > > the boot manager, but that doesn't help. The simplest thing to do > > would be to specify that F5 boots Windows, but I can't find > > anything. > > > > Is this configuration even possible? Or does Windows just make it > > impossible to boot from the second disk? > > You need to switch your drives around and setup accordingly. > Windows (at least in my experience) will not boot from anything but > the first drive. I should also mention that you need the FreeBSD boot manager on both=20 disks, or an alternative boot manager such as grub or gag. Read the=20 handbook. Beech > > Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart4030647.S0Pk6WYJ7h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF51QVp5D0B1NlT4URApXXAJ9WcWiC7mubHeAxFMZUdeigXl9uBgCeI9Lm lJG1gGVLH7PfO25WIVJLASw= =foLc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4030647.S0Pk6WYJ7h-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:33:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAB016A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1547B13C442 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l21MUPI1086299; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:30:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l21MUPNd086298; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:30:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:30:25 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Sam Jones Message-ID: <20070301223025.GC86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:33:03 -0000 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 04:36:45PM -0500, Sam Jones wrote: > I'm having a little problem trying to dual boot. I have two SATA hard > drives, the first one with FreeBSD and the second with Windows XP. I > installed the FreeBSD boot manager on the first drive, and when the > computer boots, it displays: > > F1 FreeBSD > F5 Drive 1 > > When I press F5, FreeBSD loads and not Windows. I know Windows is > working because when I disconnect the first drive, Windows boots from > the second just fine. I've tried using boot0cfg to reload the boot > manager, but that doesn't help. The simplest thing to do would be to > specify that F5 boots Windows, but I can't find anything. > > Is this configuration even possible? Or does Windows just make it > impossible to boot from the second disk? You got it. As far as I know MSwin[p] insists on being on the first drive. Of course, FreeBSD doesn't have any such sloppy limitations. So, swap the drives. Make sure both have a FreeBSD MBR and things should work out fine. You will just have to use the two-step (F5 followed by F1) to boot FreeBSD. Actually, if FreeBSD is the only bootable slice on the second disk(after you move them) you might not have to hit the F1 after the F5. ////jerry > -- > Sam Jones > sjone9ek@umw.edu > samjones1986@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:34:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220C916A403 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC17F13C4AC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 2675 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2007 22:34:03 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2007 22:34:03 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id DF9F828431; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:34:02 -0500 (EST) To: Ivan Voras References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:34:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Ivan Voras's message of "Thu\, 01 Mar 2007 23\:04\:52 +0100") Message-ID: <44r6s8y4o5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:34:04 -0000 Ivan Voras writes: > Bill Moran wrote: >> In response to Ivan Voras : > >>> 352462 files, 2525857 used, 875044 free (115156 frags, 94986 blocks, >>> 3.4% fragmentation) > >> >> Just to reiterate: >> "Fragmentation" on a Windows filesystem is _not_ the same as "fragmentation" >> on a unix file system. They are not comparable numbers, and do not mean >> the same thing. The only way to avoid fragmentation on a unix file system >> is to make every file you create equal to a multiple of the block size. > > Ok, my point was that 3.4% is a low number for a long used system, but, > for education sake, what is the difference between Windows' > "fragmentation" and Unix's "fragmentation"? > > I believe that a "fragmented file" in common usage refers to a file > which is not stored continuously on the drive - i.e. it occupies more > than one continuous region. How is UFS fragmentation different than > fragmentation on other kinds of file systems? > > UFS has cylinder groups, blocks and block fragments. Obviously, a file > larger than a cylinder group will get fragmented to spill over to > another cylinder group. Block fragments only occur at the end of files. If you know the standard computer science terminology, it can be described quite tersely. UFS fragmentation is a way of avoiding internal fragmentation from wasting too much space. MS-DOS-FS fragmentation is an example of external fragmentation in the storage space. They don't really have anything to do with each other. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 22:41:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB44316A400 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BADB13C48D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l21Md60I086364; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:39:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l21Md5wR086363; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:39:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:39:05 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Norberto Meijome Message-ID: <20070301223905.GA86318@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:41:43 -0000 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 05:17:38PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:51:00AM +1100, Norberto Meijome wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:22:32 +0100 (CET) > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > backup+restore will be defrag > > > > you mean : backup, format, (reinstall if needed, depending on method of backup) > > and restore - or simply restore on top (if you backed up everything and can > > access your drive offline). > > > > simply overwriting the existing files won't change anything, would it? You'd > > need a clean slate to do a defrag this way... > > Well, it would do some, but for the greatest effect, you would need: > dump + rm -rf * + restore > That would get it all. > > You could be really extreme and do: > dump + newfs + restore > if you wanted to, to be sure of a clean file system > > You would not need a reformat (though some people really mean newfs > when they say reformat) and you would not need any reinstall. But, > if you did this on the root partition, you would have to to the > restore from some other boot such as on a different disk or from > the fixit utility on the installation CD. That shouldn't be > necessary for any other file system unless you foolishly put /sbin > in a partition other than / (root). Of course, I should have re-emphasized that this is not needed. You will not improve performance. Its only value might be to exercise every used file block on the filesystem to make sure it is still readable. And for that you don't need to nuke and rewrite things. Just doing the backup (which you should do anyway) will read up all used file space (except what you might have marked as nodump). -- or the other possible value - to placate mal-informed management. ////jerry > > ////jerry > > > _________________________ > > {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome > > > > Software isn't released.... it escapes. > > > > I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. > > Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been > > Warned. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 23:24:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D18A16A408 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FC413C491 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HMuEM-0001vw-Pr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:58:35 +0100 Received: from 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([83.131.168.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:58:34 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:58:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:34:38 +0100 Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20070301172157.8fc10842.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7A5DDCDAA27043FF5B0775C9" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <20070301172157.8fc10842.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:24:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7A5DDCDAA27043FF5B0775C9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Ivan Voras : >> I believe that a "fragmented file" in common usage refers to a file >> which is not stored continuously on the drive - i.e. it occupies more >> than one continuous region. How is UFS fragmentation different than >> fragmentation on other kinds of file systems? >=20 > That common usage refers to Windows filesystems. >=20 > In unix filesystems, fragmentation refers to the number of blocks that = have > been broken down in to fragments to either hold files smaller than a bl= ock, > or (as you mentioned) use the space at the end of a file that doesn't f= it > exactly in a block. Ok, so the difference is in the name, not in the semantics :) Unfortunately, all the world is Windows now and that's why I try to use "block fragments" instead of just "fragments" to try avoid confusion. > But this also makes it _easy_ for the filesystem to avoid causing the t= ype > of fragmentation that _does_ degrade performance. For example, when th= e > first block is on track 10, then the next block is on track 20, then we= 're > back to track 10 again, then over to track 35 ... etc, etc >=20 > Keep in mind, that in the previous 3 paragraphs, I was using the "Windo= ws" > definition of "fragmentation." Agreed. --------------enig7A5DDCDAA27043FF5B0775C9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF51T+ldnAQVacBcgRApvpAKDuE7pcQlIhWSXdtkfIuEJQQLSlbgCfc8yo pgUEKgngalRlVKRTOyU+EEM= =PyyF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7A5DDCDAA27043FF5B0775C9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 23:29:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FC816A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E8713C474 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HMuJX-0002yH-75 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:03:56 +0100 Received: from 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([83.131.168.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:03:55 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:03:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:56:30 +0100 Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <44r6s8y4o5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8915B63AE6E6CAA5EB45A56A" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83-131-168-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <44r6s8y4o5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:29:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8915B63AE6E6CAA5EB45A56A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lowell Gilbert wrote: > If you know the standard computer science terminology, it can be > described quite tersely. UFS fragmentation is a way of avoiding > internal fragmentation from wasting too much space. MS-DOS-FS > fragmentation is an example of external fragmentation in the storage > space. They don't really have anything to do with each other. It looks like I actually AM arguing about semantics here: "UFS fragmentation" refers to dividing blocks (e.g. 16KB in size) into block fragments (e.g. 2KB in size) that can be allocated separately in special circumstances (which all boil down to: at the end of files). This is done to lessen the effect of internal fragmentation. "Fragmentation" without "UFS" prefix, as mostly used today (and which I believe it's how the original poster understands it) refers to dividing files into non-continuous regions, i.e. external fragmentation. Correct so far? "% fragmentation" message from fsck cannot refer to internal fragmentation as the numbers don't add up, so it almost certainly refers to external fragmentation. As I understand it from technical documentation, it is correct that UFS deliberately does external fragmentation of large files in order to make file allocation faster and more managable, except in "optimized for space" mode, correct? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:42:45 -0000 The error: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the right answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. Ideas/suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 00:34:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1831C16A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48B313C491 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AAD5191F; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:34:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:34:10 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070302003410.4106fcfd@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: beech@alaskaparadise.com Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:34:15 -0000 On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:26 -0900 Beech Rintoul wrote: > I should also mention that you need the FreeBSD boot manager on both > disks, or an alternative boot manager such as grub or gag. Read the > handbook. I recall reading that too, but I've never understood what it's supposed to achieve. I imagine it must be a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, I've certainly never needed to install more than one copy of GAG or LILO. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 00:50:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B481F16A403 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrpt@catholic.org) Received: from pecan.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C06913C4A8 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrpt@catholic.org) Received: from 28.101.233.220.exetel.com.au ([220.233.101.28] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by pecan.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMvz8-0005eR-CC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:50:58 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4f48d953253acaed08dfd775cea2cb3b@catholic.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Never you mind Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:50:56 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:50:59 -0000 On 02/03/2007, at 2:58 AM, John Nielsen wrote: > On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: >> On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give it >> the >> details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp >> space as a drive on the desktop. >> >> Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce >> desktop manager? > > I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow you > to mount > an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing you'll > have > to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a shortcut > to > your chosen mountpoint should suffice). I've just made an error during installation. At the dialog I selected BOTH c-ares and IPV6. That caused an error: curl-7.16.0_1 does not support both c-ares and IPv6 - disable one of them. OK. I thought I'd simply run "make install clean" again and at the dialog I would make my selection. However, I do not get to the dialog. My choices have been saved somewhere and are being re-used. I need to clean up from my first effort. What do I need to do to wipe the slate clean? malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 00:53:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE2616A404 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CABE13C4B8 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 92405 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 00:53:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 00:53:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: LwXZCFgVM1lpD2YF.wlc.RBwzybIt.Z10auPv2FdyZhdyUIPYq3h2rfvVDwWyHaPUQ-- Message-ID: <45E7757C.4050305@hier7.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:53:16 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> <4f48d953253acaed08dfd775cea2cb3b@catholic.org> In-Reply-To: <4f48d953253acaed08dfd775cea2cb3b@catholic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:53:14 -0000 make config Never you mind wrote: > > On 02/03/2007, at 2:58 AM, John Nielsen wrote: > >> On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: >>> On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give it the >>> details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp >>> space as a drive on the desktop. >>> >>> Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce >>> desktop manager? >> >> I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow you >> to mount >> an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing you'll >> have >> to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a shortcut to >> your chosen mountpoint should suffice). > > I've just made an error during installation. At the dialog I selected > BOTH c-ares and IPV6. > > That caused an error: > > curl-7.16.0_1 does not support both c-ares and IPv6 - disable one of them. > > OK. I thought I'd simply run "make install clean" again and at the > dialog I would make my selection. However, I do not get to the dialog. > My choices have been saved somewhere and are being re-used. I need to > clean up from my first effort. What do I need to do to wipe the slate > clean? > > malcolm > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 01:06:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2103916A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D423313C441 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 68833 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 01:06:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=6P49nlKMT2SINqMFfDob8I9rB0qF6KekBqj+VGEzf0+Q5kd4iuBlQHGVJ8xKmjtZFvcBOQoCWnrge4Y1w9FX9LnQRNtuQ7x7XM3VGumyuKtkrbCWKUPd5lqxVdMqe1H+EGQTfxsyElXeAthY7sTb39BNZwQoPtRYz0W+gxEyf+Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 01:06:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ViP3gvsVM1lcHgYv5JG5IuMqbZxoWb3wTeZDwe4.jdUg7atRXCH.nHN8qkhT7xE0PqzqZi1cejkOrdPqsqREOo9CT1Qv5Ve8yk9BRu07TBzVbGYd6kJ_nouEo2bDGQfKG6Na8Z8MMr9f3oQ- In-Reply-To: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <44r6s8y4o5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2dac75d59286fc9c0481d6dc7ca29e16@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:06:09 -0800 To: Ivan Voras X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:06:31 -0000 On Mar 1, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Ivan Voras wrote: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> If you know the standard computer science terminology, it can be >> described quite tersely. UFS fragmentation is a way of avoiding >> internal fragmentation from wasting too much space. MS-DOS-FS >> fragmentation is an example of external fragmentation in the storage >> space. They don't really have anything to do with each other. > > It looks like I actually AM arguing about semantics here: > > "UFS fragmentation" refers to dividing blocks (e.g. 16KB in size) into > block fragments (e.g. 2KB in size) that can be allocated separately in > special circumstances (which all boil down to: at the end of files). > This is done to lessen the effect of internal fragmentation. > > "Fragmentation" without "UFS" prefix, as mostly used today (and which > I > believe it's how the original poster understands it) refers to dividing > files into non-continuous regions, i.e. external fragmentation. > > Correct so far? > > "% fragmentation" message from fsck cannot refer to internal > fragmentation as the numbers don't add up, so it almost certainly > refers > to external fragmentation. > This discussion has been about UFS vs MS file system. But I have been using Macs and have run file system utilities, Norton, and watched it defrag a Mac disc. I am just curious as to how the HFS and HFS+ file systems fit into this picture. Particularly since OSX is essentially a Unix 'like' system but still uses HFS+ Just for some perspective and idle curiosity. Thanks Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 01:24:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590EE16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA3B13C461 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 5779 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 12:24:10 +1100 Received: from 203-217-48-136.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.48.136) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 12:24:10 +1100 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:24:04 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20070302122404.398da65d@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <41224.216.230.84.67.1172785646.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:24:11 -0000 On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:56:02 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > > So that the need to do "defrag" is essentially almost 0 for almost all > > users. > > For what it's worth, this has been Microsoft's official position since > NTFS became mainstream. Meaning that NTFS is cured of this ?? I must be using the Fat-16 version of NTFS because i haven't seen 1 Win32 box where fragmentation isnt an issue... It may be have a smaller impact on performance than in the old days (faster buses / disks / CPU ? ) , but it is definitely still there , and it definitely affects performance. _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome ...using the internet as it was originally intended... for the further research of pornography and pipebombs. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 01:49:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC32916A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdgrills@the-grills.com) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [63.240.77.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA7813C46B for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdgrills@the-grills.com) Received: from srv2.the-grills.com (failure[68.60.243.64]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2007030201493101400prqmce>; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:49:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 48689 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Mar 2007 01:49:21 -0000 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:49:21 -0600 From: "Kelly D. Grills" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070302014921.GA48654@the-grills.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6207f7d90703010553t745460aap9cdc3f8a03ffaf69@mail.gmail.com> <45E6DBB0.9050603@hier7.com> <6207f7d90703011310m2ffe7740i25c01aa748a79ae9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6207f7d90703011310m2ffe7740i25c01aa748a79ae9@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/6.2-RELEASE (i386) X-PGP-Key: mailto:kdgrills-pgpkey@the-grills.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: Fwd: IPF (ftp - pkg_add) help requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:49:33 -0000 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 04:10:11PM -0500, Don Munyak wrote: >=20 > My server was opening an additional session using ports > 1024, which > I was not initially allowing. ipf was blocking outbound due to this > rule. This is a known issue with ftp client sessions using active mode > when behind a firewall. >=20 As I hinted at in my original response, If you'd rather keep your firewall rules tighter, pkg_add(1) says: Note: If you wish to use passive mode ftp in such transfers, set the variable FTP_PASSIVE_MODE to some value in your environment. Otherwise, the more standard ACTIVE mode may be used. If pkg_add consistently fails to fetch a package from a site known to work, it may be because you have a firewall that demands the usage of passive mode ftp. --=20 Kelly D. Grills kdgrills@the-grills.com --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: PGP key: mailto:kdgrills-pgpkey@the-grills.com iD8DBQFF54Kh7inS5LzF7HMRAiC+AJ4hfYUA5R2o00EDjXIQcOW5bSIGxgCfaWLV PRVxp4J26WJ05znW4xhiKJA= =VyOl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 02:04:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1675B16A406 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5769D13C442 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HMwV1-0000zF-Mo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:24:05 +0100 Received: from 89-172-45-241.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.45.241]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:23:55 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-45-241.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:23:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:14:07 +0100 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <44r6s8y4o5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <2dac75d59286fc9c0481d6dc7ca29e16@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD5B944E9585FFEF8B9D807CA" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-45-241.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2dac75d59286fc9c0481d6dc7ca29e16@prodigy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:04:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD5B944E9585FFEF8B9D807CA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jekillen wrote: > a Mac disc. I am just curious as to how the HFS and HFS+ file systems f= it > into this picture. Particularly since OSX is essentially a Unix 'like' > system > but still uses HFS+ > Just for some perspective and idle curiosity. As you said, HFS(+) is not a native unix file system, but maybe someone will know about it. All I know about is that HFS+ is a journaling file system and that it defragments (in the Windows sense) files smaller than certain size (20MB?) on the fly. --------------enigD5B944E9585FFEF8B9D807CA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF53pfldnAQVacBcgRAr5XAJ4oAL2IyM7xYi1q8uZ6GD9B2wWthwCdFX+w vlgc2jxMHJFwdXpR+l7nOSg= =dvki -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD5B944E9585FFEF8B9D807CA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 02:14:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E332D16A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAA3B13C461 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34474 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2007 02:14:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=4AIKZ6zQip3K6mMySiTfPN6ign8fAOIV0oD7U7xIF9D8C8jZdFC1uC48NT5QKZDgSvj/91VBlmGdG6HQmbCQTZw+uEKj71Hy9Zl9O9iIK/ucaD/NwR2qtSe8LUBKElUvrcYNotPS0H1Cz7RI9d5mHCoU5Q64Q1yPTMtsLy0qIH0=; X-YMail-OSG: W6o3_SgVM1lBNnURDqBfXEV0OafWVKB6MmpdhNw5qbM4GVraJ.6b5ZpNTb5FOpi0uWzPPHXs.6di.4KL6Epe1QmjW8jhetXMs5ttxYB7MLQIVA.RGbFICIDN5EfacfhND5uWwPbbV6jqwnDogKB3F.lS_g-- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:14:41 CST Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:14:41 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: Simon Gao In-Reply-To: <45E726B6.4050507@schrodinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <105156.33765.qm@web35203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:14:42 -0000 --- Simon Gao wrote: > Stephen Liu wrote: > >>> Take a look at Slackware. > >>> > >>> http://www.slackware.com > >>> > >>> Patrick > >>> > >> Seconded, if I got to run Linux, I run Slackware (and I have in > >> production). If you need it there is a port of Slack to AMD64 > called > >> slamd64, http://www.slamd64.com/. > >> > >> FreeBSD users will appreciate it's simplicity and it's stability. > >> > > > > > > slamd64-11.0 has issue on nVidia driver, same as FreeBSD 6.2-amd64. > > > Besides you need to recompile kernel to enable smp technology. > Each > > time after recompiling/upgrading kernel you need to reinstall the > > driver download on nVidia.com. The situation is better than FBSD. > I > > can't locate driver for FBSD x86_64 on their website, only x_86 > > available. The onboard NIC fails to work and X can't work properly > > > However smp technology is already enabled on FBSD. > > > > I have slamd64-11.0 and FreeBSD 6.2-amd64 running here. > > > > I have no knowledge on CentOS. I'm prepared to try it. According > to > > folks on their forum CentOS supports nVidia chipset without > problem. > > > > > > B.R. > > Stephen Liu > Why not give Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) a try. By using Gentoo > Linux, > you not only get the similar port system, portage, as with FreeBSD, > but > also enjoy all the benefits Linux can provide. Gentoo Linux is very > flexible and has a very good support community. I have 64 bit Gentoo box here. It also has nVidia driver problem. My 20" Philips LCD display can't display resolution > "1024x768". I have to download a driver from nVidia.com. Now it displays correct resolution "1680x1050". I don't know whether I need to reinstall the said driver if after upgrading/recompiling the kernel. Because it is running on a single core AMD Athlon64 PC. I don't need to recompile kernel to enable smp. I'm now searching a rigid OS, either Unix or Linux, to be run as server. For time saving I don't expect building the same myself, HLFS. I need X for running web browser to communicate outside World. Text browser such as elinks etc. won't serve my need. I won't have X started at boot. I only start it at need. That is my purpose to test CentOS. B.R. Stephen Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 02:20:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3091316A403 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D02C413C461 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 3630 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 02:20:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=JrB3BkHUOEFKlALGd4r++ZcopBVJYeCfq8YUjyhO4yzIG03nMuq1kMLWRxm0q6uETpr9fg54fPjUqbdqhqADBBWkNeoKsjSUEikRseoM3zRJWiegPEOSI5FH9ijQGwx3b7kwVIf090tSTiZcLqoh0gN4aym9Tqb7PyihxkFV0kw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 02:20:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .LuNEgoVM1mWlg0gho2at54bdZMsqQcmfJ3WyIt.hUspjHmPZ.SfO3.6nhDKyfkoC6sGWtQ.6SoTiUzyoHrspVa1t1KqzXtxhCUt9WCfl50dGYE_GKT_NNFFtD99SRgUSPn.Yh8JgDOwY1Y- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <88136d73789a204a841fd1116270b165@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: jekillen Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:20:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:20:57 -0000 Hello; I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard. It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces. I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not fit in the slot for the obstruction. So, my question is simple: Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work? By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also. I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network. Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet.... Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 02:26:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E202316A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C78B13C48D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l222Q9Qa035978 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:26:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200703020226.l222Q9Qa035978@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <35976.1172802368.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:26:09 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Best anoncvs Site to Update 6.2 Sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:26:10 -0000 Kevin Kinsey writes: > The mirrors are in the form "cvsupN.freebsd.org". I use cvsup12, cvsup13, > cvsup6 from SW Missouri (and my upstream links go through NE Oklahoma, > dunno if they are close to you or not). Probably close enough. It will probably work when I connect to the right site. > It might be worth the time to install /usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup to > help find the fastest/nearest servers for your installation area. Great idea! Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 03:44:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E7616A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 03:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE3113C478 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 03:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HMwpg-00026V-66 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:45:16 +0100 Received: from 89-172-45-241.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.45.241]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:45:16 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-45-241.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:45:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:17:31 +0100 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBDA0756F46E15BFA26F5402B" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-45-241.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:44:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBDA0756F46E15BFA26F5402B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry McAllister wrote: > Well, it would do some, but for the greatest effect, you would need: > dump + rm -rf * + restore This is nitpicking so ignore it: deleting all files on UFS2 volume won't restore it to it's pristine state because inodes are lazily initialized. It doesn't have anything to do with fragmentation, but will make fsck run a little longer. --------------enigBDA0756F46E15BFA26F5402B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF53srldnAQVacBcgRAvvRAJ0Ti4A4iDU6LaTanfNrtIjT+wgrTQCfQMtj jo+wIpv1tarqRACHQTJMUFs= =75ay -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBDA0756F46E15BFA26F5402B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 04:04:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7531B16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515EC13C49D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2244laO020919 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:04:48 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2244ldS016609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:04:47 -0800 Message-ID: <45E7A248.30204@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:04:24 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <88136d73789a204a841fd1116270b165@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <88136d73789a204a841fd1116270b165@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.1.195434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='LEO_OBFU_SUBJ_RE 0.1, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 04:04:48 -0000 jekillen wrote: > Hello; > I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard. > It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces. > I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of > v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and > instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was > to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have > it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat > dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not > fit in the slot for the obstruction. > So, my question is simple: > Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot > in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work? > > By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using > this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address > assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also. > I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh > and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network. > Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet.... > Jeff K Maybe. Read this document: . -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 04:19:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C0516A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1AD13C46B for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l224JE4e005983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:19:14 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l224JDLg017350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:19:14 -0800 Message-ID: <45E7A5AB.40504@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:18:51 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <88136d73789a204a841fd1116270b165@prodigy.net> <45E7A248.30204@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <45E7A248.30204@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.1.200933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='LEO_OBFU_SUBJ_RE 0.1, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 04:19:15 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > jekillen wrote: >> Hello; >> I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard. >> It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces. >> I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of >> v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and >> instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was >> to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have >> it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat >> dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not >> fit in the slot for the obstruction. >> So, my question is simple: >> Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot >> in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work? >> >> By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using >> this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address >> assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also. >> I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh >> and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network. >> Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet.... >> Jeff K > > Maybe. Read this document: . > -Garrett > Actually after looking at the size and slots of PCI-Express x16 vs standard PCIe, _no_, you can't. In there's a picture comparing PCIe x16 to PCI, PCIe x8, and PCI-X, and there's no way that it will fit... Besides the PCI-x has 1 lane while PCI-x16 has 16. That's what I get for not having a up to date machine that I could judge this from (still stuck in the PCI "dark ages"). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 04:57:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD8B16A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (wintermute.cepheid.org [64.92.165.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6A713C461 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id B2D51170DF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:57:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:57:18 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: Norberto Meijome Message-ID: <20070302045718.GA59913@idoru.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , Norberto Meijome , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070301143621.36433.qmail@web35204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45E726B6.4050507@schrodinger.com> <20070302085541.602eb85f@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070302085541.602eb85f@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 04:57:19 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:55:41AM +1100, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:17:10 -0800 Simon Gao > wrote: > > > Why not give Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) a try. By using Gentoo > > Linux, you not only get the similar port system, portage, as with > > FreeBSD, but also enjoy all the benefits Linux can provide. Gentoo > > Linux is very flexible and has a very good support community. > > risking making this a discussion about linux : I've used gentoo... > portage is OK.... but is nowhere near as good as the ports > collection, IMHO. First, you need to build everything from scratch, > no binary packages. There is an annoying split of portage sections > (dev | production | good | bad | pink ..whatever), that someone else > puts on you, rather than allow you to chose what to use. And masked > ports?! -USE flags are confusing, to me (global? local? ) > Anyway..maybe I haven't got the patience needed for linux....i > rather get on with life :D No binary packages? Could have fooled me. From: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#ebuilds "For full ISO releases, we create a full suite of binary packages in an enhanced .tbz2 format, which is .tar.bz2 compatible with meta-information attached to the end of the file. These can be used to install a working (though not fully optimized) version of the package quickly and efficiently." Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 05:39:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93E216A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com (omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.83.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E90C13C48D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com ([121.209.32.118]) by omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070302053901.NJNA27358.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com>; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:39:01 +0000 Received: from mail.0x7e.net ([121.209.32.118]) by oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070302053900.MIGD14659.oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@mail.0x7e.net>; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:39:00 +0000 Received: from qux.0x7e.net ([10.10.10.10]) by mail.0x7e.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1HN0Tr-000JFk-Or; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:08:59 +1030 In-Reply-To: <226ae0c60702280956l5b24a76bvbf6972cc33724ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <226ae0c60702261046m671647bbwc9aef6b1f6475522@mail.gmail.com> <934FF44E-39F5-410B-B235-5F5709B4340A@deathbeforedecaf.net> <226ae0c60702280956l5b24a76bvbf6972cc33724ad@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rob Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:09:04 +1030 To: David Robillard X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Using source control to manage system configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:39:03 -0000 On 01/03/2007, at 4:26 AM, David Robillard wrote: > Well, I'm not quite sure that it will answer all of your questions, > but take a look at Luke Kanies's article called ''Using version > control in system administration''. > > It's available from the USENIX website at > http://www.usenix.org/publications/login/2005-12/pdfs/kanies.pdf Thanks David - that was really useful. I think that my 'directory based' approach to version management comes from using RCS (and SCCS). With those tools, the only way to track groups of files was to keep them in different places. So instead of dragging my RCS habits into the world of CVS, it's probably time to learn about branching. That seems to be the standard way to handle shared files with local modifications. Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 05:51:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6CB16A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8A4C13C491 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 78485 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 05:51:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=QWbS5V7wX1Hi7pG9X12abKInpVJBnuzRNYgdVg3U0jCN8FcWh6ESO5mouGzkPXIMFhPk2rLjLBIelUDBzXVWdiTyCD6O/vflC0jb8gz8y72p7AaEEU1SeYqPIoRRDwbnGhGfKNOeu/0HULWm6r6sYXx+RsFcgEoB3DRd+f4a9kQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 05:51:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cZDvJgQVM1no9Wuj8SFrJaPyOPAG_aJFa0x2I0djQUSa0cfI3.nRUvClDpcwWtjZmbiP4RiF5K.9fbh.v2pKfJS2zIGa3gDVkBVvRs1.8Np2Wq8iDDBolTlvYvaOAcGsBdUi08gfJ84VRfNM7D02VuIiaw-- In-Reply-To: <45E7A5AB.40504@u.washington.edu> References: <88136d73789a204a841fd1116270b165@prodigy.net> <45E7A248.30204@u.washington.edu> <45E7A5AB.40504@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <50e4ad83166ebfdb62ecc1c9ef2346c4@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: jekillen Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:51:39 -0800 To: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:51:59 -0000 On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:18 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Garrett Cooper wrote: >> jekillen wrote: >>> Hello; >>> I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard. >>> It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces. >>> I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of >>> v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and >>> instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was >>> to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would = have >>> it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat >>> dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not >>> fit in the slot for the obstruction. >>> So, my question is simple: >>> Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot >>> in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work? >>> >>> By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using >>> this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address >>> assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also. >>> I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh >>> and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network. >>> Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet.... >>> Jeff K >> Maybe. Read this document:=20 >> . >> -Garrett > > Actually after looking at the size and slots of PCI-Express x16 vs=20 > standard PCIe, _no_, you can't. In=20 > there's a picture=20 > comparing PCIe x16 to PCI, PCIe x8, and PCI-X, and there's no way that=20= > it will fit... Besides the PCI-x has 1 lane while PCI-x16 has 16.=20 > That's what I get for not having a up to date machine that I could=20 > judge this from (still stuck in the PCI "dark ages"). > > -Garrett > Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message and=20= then decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I came=20= up with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look back=20= at the specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards=20 and there it was, pretty plain. Compatible with x1, x4, x8, and x16 full-height and low-profile PCI=20 Express slots There is still a problem. One of the cards is initializing and the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the punch=20= line is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in=20 ifconfig. I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it=20 appears that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is=20 listed as supported by the em driver, but Intel=AE 82572EI or Intel=AE 82572GI Gigabit=20 Controller is not listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent. thanks for the response. I guess I will try the driver source route=20 from another message from this list, for the Marvell interfaces. I will have to burn=20= it to a cd and install from that. Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 06:38:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A4F16A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFD113C491 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l226cU7C004049 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:38:31 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l226cTMs020427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:38:30 -0800 Message-ID: <45E7C64F.1050005@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:38:07 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <88136d73789a204a841fd1116270b165@prodigy.net> <45E7A248.30204@u.washington.edu> <4b460b677ea7edc4bdb760826b8f4047@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <4b460b677ea7edc4bdb760826b8f4047@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.1.222933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='LEO_OBFU_SUBJ_RE 0.1, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_7 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:38:31 -0000 jekillen wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > >> jekillen wrote: >>> Hello; >>> I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard. >>> It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces. >>> I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of >>> v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and >>> instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was >>> to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have >>> it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat >>> dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not >>> fit in the slot for the obstruction. >>> So, my question is simple: >>> Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot >>> in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work? >>> By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using >>> this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address >>> assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also. >>> I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh >>> and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network. >>> Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet.... >>> Jeff K >> >> Maybe. Read this document: >> . >> -Garrett >> > > Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message and > then > decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I came up > with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look back > at the > specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards > and there > it was, pretty plain. There is still a problem. One of the cards is > initializing and > the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the punch > line > is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in > ifconfig. > I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it > appears > that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is listed > as supported > by the em driver, but Intel® 82572EI or Intel® 82572GI Gigabit > Controller is not > listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent. > thanks for the response. > Jeff K There's always -current or an RMA. Weird though... I didn't think that the slot size was large enough though for a PCIx card slot. Interesting... Learn something new everyday.. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 07:32:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABAB16A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfitzgerald@pacific.net.au) Received: from pecan.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC7713C441 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfitzgerald@pacific.net.au) Received: from 28.101.233.220.exetel.com.au ([220.233.101.28] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by pecan.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMwXc-0000LM-8u for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:26:36 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <45E7757C.4050305@hier7.com> References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> <4f48d953253acaed08dfd775cea2cb3b@catholic.org> <45E7757C.4050305@hier7.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Malcolm Fitzgerald Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:26:33 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:32:04 -0000 >> What do I need to do to wipe the slate clean? On 02/03/2007, at 11:53 AM, Chris Slothouber wrote: > make config Yes. I don't know what arguments to pass to it. Where are the current arguments being stored, surely I can edit that file? > > Never you mind wrote: >> On 02/03/2007, at 2:58 AM, John Nielsen wrote: >>> On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: >>>> On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give it >>>> the >>>> details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp >>>> space as a drive on the desktop. >>>> >>>> Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce >>>> desktop manager? >>> >>> I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow >>> you to mount >>> an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing >>> you'll have >>> to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a >>> shortcut to >>> your chosen mountpoint should suffice). >> I've just made an error during installation. At the dialog I selected >> BOTH c-ares and IPV6. >> That caused an error: >> curl-7.16.0_1 does not support both c-ares and IPv6 - disable one of >> them. >> OK. I thought I'd simply run "make install clean" again and at the >> dialog I would make my selection. However, I do not get to the >> dialog. My choices have been saved somewhere and are being re-used. I >> need to clean up from my first effort. What do I need to do to wipe >> the slate clean? >> malcolm >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Malcolm Fitzgerald T: 0403 972 660 E: thats@notyourhomework.net FOR YOUR COMPUTER Customised software built to your specifications. Using Macs? Automate your workflow with AppleScript. FOR YOU Computer training, software installation + upgrades, computer setups. IN TIMES OF NEED Troubleshooting, maintenance + repairs. That's Not Your Homework ABN 91 398 224 929 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 08:38:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FFE16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walkingshadow@grummel.net) Received: from mail1.bytemine.net (mat.bytemine.net [193.41.144.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E074C13C467 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walkingshadow@grummel.net) Received: from 4be54-4-82-234-154-189.fbx.proxad.net ([82.234.154.189]:39524 helo=mailsvr.my.domain) by mail1.bytemine.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HN3HR-0008T9-0s; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:38:27 +0100 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.11]) by mailsvr.my.domain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33160456E0; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:39:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:38:05 +0100 From: Jona Joachim To: Malcolm Fitzgerald Message-ID: <20070302093805.796071d0@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> <4f48d953253acaed08dfd775cea2cb3b@catholic.org> <45E7757C.4050305@hier7.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: &>dujC`JZV!}?Y^1"%N{x!f+rW}; PX\_Cg[!|MA~tn3ebIKM|~p=,,U~YJt,Exd`Spk.1Ln zg, Q]0=:!/LTs-eg.Fz, @giLyD'D=s, L\-AJyZ8tcV`kPifedMA@rhoEikoo~K%@iDLNq2?aHZjIt) GqBY7o#9+8j/uuXDVG3`XFEH_4$T%._*%;|vIaP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_IHmj4VZS+U0fH580KDvOJ08; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:38:28 -0000 --Sig_IHmj4VZS+U0fH580KDvOJ08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:26:33 +1100 Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: > >> What do I need to do to wipe the slate clean? >=20 > On 02/03/2007, at 11:53 AM, Chris Slothouber wrote: >=20 > > make config >=20 >=20 > Yes. I don't know what arguments to pass to it. Where are the current=20 > arguments being stored, surely I can edit that file? If you run "make config" it pops up the dialog where you can choose your options. Alternatively you can run "make rmconfig" to remove your saved options so you will be asked again next time you run make. The options are saved in /var/db/ports/${PORTNAME}/options Although you could edit that file manually there is no point to it and you could make errors. I must say that when I tried curlftpfs is was not very stable but perhaps you have better luck. Regards, Jona > > > > Never you mind wrote: > >> On 02/03/2007, at 2:58 AM, John Nielsen wrote: > >>> On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: > >>>> On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give > >>>> it the > >>>> details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the > >>>> ftp space as a drive on the desktop. > >>>> > >>>> Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and > >>>> xfce desktop manager? > >>> > >>> I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow=20 > >>> you to mount > >>> an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing=20 > >>> you'll have > >>> to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a=20 > >>> shortcut to > >>> your chosen mountpoint should suffice). > >> I've just made an error during installation. At the dialog I > >> selected BOTH c-ares and IPV6. > >> That caused an error: > >> curl-7.16.0_1 does not support both c-ares and IPv6 - disable one > >> of them. > >> OK. I thought I'd simply run "make install clean" again and at the=20 > >> dialog I would make my selection. However, I do not get to the=20 > >> dialog. My choices have been saved somewhere and are being > >> re-used. I need to clean up from my first effort. What do I need > >> to do to wipe the slate clean? > >> malcolm > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > Malcolm Fitzgerald >=20 > T: 0403 972 660 E: thats@notyourhomework.net >=20 > FOR YOUR COMPUTER Customised software built to your specifications.=20 > Using Macs? Automate your workflow with AppleScript. FOR YOU Computer=20 > training, software installation + upgrades, computer setups. IN TIMES=20 > OF NEED Troubleshooting, maintenance + repairs. >=20 >=20 > That's Not Your Homework > ABN 91 398 224 929 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 Hi, I'm a .signature virus! Copy me to your .signature file and help me propagate, thanks! --Sig_IHmj4VZS+U0fH580KDvOJ08 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF5+JvB0JBR/6d8XQRAjLcAJ9xPDbOjJPZNL8TyLtYyN8S+0EiTgCePz3n vm9JXPQ8b34ev0tn0Pj4DS0= =F4CP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_IHmj4VZS+U0fH580KDvOJ08-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 08:55:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D34816A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CAF13C47E for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l228tRNu002337; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:55:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l228tQrt002334; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:55:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:55:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Steve Franks In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703011250y7ad5b475v936b4d357549d50e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070302095438.K2220@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> <539c60b90703011250y7ad5b475v936b4d357549d50e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:55:37 -0000 > shell - so not a defrag issue, just a screwed registry or something). > I used to reinstall my entire MS server every 6 months, on average... as rarely? looks that you are very good windows admin, or this MS server wasn't used much From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 08:57:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE0B16A409 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC93B13C48D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l228vBi1002359; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:57:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l228v8lj002356; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:57:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:57:08 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Norberto Meijome In-Reply-To: <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> Message-ID: <20070302095616.N2220@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:57:12 -0000 > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> backup+restore will be defrag > > you mean : backup, format, (reinstall if needed, depending on method of backup) s/format/newfs/g no reinstall, that's not windows. after restoring all files, bsdlabel -B /dev/your_disk is enough From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 09:34:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B3E16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F8B13C4A6 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l229YQME071729; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <004c01c75cad$d7145500$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dan D Niles" , References: <1172784439.14922.47.camel@jane.spg.more.net> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:33:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:34:27 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Re: Serial Port Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:34:28 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan D Niles" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Serial Port Problems > > More Dell 2950 woes. > > I use serial ports to manage my FreeBSD machines remotely. I've never > had any problems until now. I've installed FreeBSD 6.2 on a Dell 2950. > > The install goes without problems over the serial port. After the > reboot, I get the typical: > > FreeBSD/i386 (test.host.net) (ttyd0) > > login: > > and I can log in just fine. If I disconnect and come back later > (sometimes), or if I hit return without entering a login name (always) > it starts spitting out junk like: > Get a cheapie pci serial port card, plug it in, and see if it works any better Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 09:38:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2987516A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DF113C442 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1HN4Di-0005ZQ-LV>; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:38:34 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1HN4Di-0004Af-KQ>; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:38:34 +0100 Message-ID: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:38:35 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070119) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:38:36 -0000 The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups around here and I saw something interesting. On my lab's FreeBSD 6.2/i386 box (ASUS P4P800, ICH5 with two SATA 150 ports, two SATA 300 drives attached) I copied big files (~ 5GB) from one drive to another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I watched the copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the value of 'KB/t' never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more frustrating, I never got beyond 33 MB/s transfer rate although bonni/bonni++ told me both drives are capable doing much more (~75 MB/s each). At home, I use a FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT box on an ASUS A8N32-SLI/nForce4-SLI based box, amd64 (no 32Bit compatibility). Two Hitachi T7K250 250 GB/SATA II drives build up a RAID 0 (nVidia MediaShield), and additionally there is a SAMSUNG Spinpoitn SP2004C attached to the controller. bonni results in 55 MB/s for the SP2004C alone and gives ~ 65 - 70 MB/s for the Hitachis, each and roughly 115 MB/s for the RAID 0. But copying from the single drive to the RAID 0 or from the RAID 0 to the single drive also reaches this oscure 33 MB/s boundary! In the first place I thought the older i386 hardware has some hard-limits, but we have several boxes of the exact same hardware around here and a wide spread Linux and Windows utilization and on those boxes equipted with more than one harddrive (PATA or SATA) the effective transfer rate shown up is about 50 - 65 MB/s as expected with copying a big 5G file from one drive to another. The hardwrae limit is completely nonsense when it comes to the AMD64 box with newer hardware. Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 defaults, but on both boxes nForce4 and ICH5 controller are recognized and show up with SATA300 or SATA150 capabilities, respective)? May I have some knobs I'm not aware of to tune disk performance? I would appreciate any coments on that and if someone has some good ideas how to benchmark those subjects, please let me know. Regards, Oliver -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 09:43:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9083816A407 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081B413C4AA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l229hY1v005982; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:43:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l229hY7G005979; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:43:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:43:34 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <20070302104219.B5845@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:43:41 -0000 > another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I watched the > copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the value of 'KB/t' > never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more frustrating, I never got what's wrong? FreeBSD uses 128k limit by default. edit /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h and change #define MAXPHYS (128 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ to say #define MAXPHYS (1024 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 09:46:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E39D16A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3363B13C494 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l229kZt5071813; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:46:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <00c401c75caf$89ee3370$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "O. Hartmann" , , References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:45:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:46:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:46:37 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "O. Hartmann" To: ; Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:38 AM Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 > The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes > and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups > around here and I saw something interesting. > blah blah blah deleted > > Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone > explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 man mount read section on "async" linux by default mounts async freebsd by default mounts sync you can change FBSD to async then watch your fs scramble during a power failure no big deal, it's only your data. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 10:13:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6744216A408; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF90413C481; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l22AD191008492; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:13:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l22AD1cW008489; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:13:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:13:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <00c401c75caf$89ee3370$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: <20070302111208.J8367@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <00c401c75caf$89ee3370$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:13:03 -0000 > > you can change FBSD to async > > then watch your fs scramble during a power failure > > no big deal, it's only your data. > you are wrong, he talked about copying BIG files, and this shouldn't make a difference contrary to small files. there is something wrong there as i routinely get 70MB/s on my SATA server From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 10:16:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBF116A403 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com [68.99.120.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4663F13C474 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao03 ([172.18.22.62]) by dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with SMTP id <20070302101657.PLEA2045.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03>; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:16:57 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.16 (webedge20-101-1106-20040809) From: Vizion Organization: vizion Communications To: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 2:16:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070302101657.PLEA2045.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03> Cc: sem@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade query X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:16:59 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Sergey Matveychuk [mailto:sem@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:54 PM > To: Vizion > Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: portupgrade query > > Vizion wrote: > > I have multiple lines of stale dependencies reported from > pkgdb -F all of which relate to bsdpan-Archive-Tar-1.30 or > 1.16 witha report that the package is held. > > > > The lines are > > Stale dependency:bsdpan-Archive-Tar-[version] -> [see NOTE > below]: -> Ignored (the package is held; specify -f to force) > > > > bsdpan-* are not real ports. They can't be processed as real ports. So > they should be ignored (hold). Install them from ports or ignore the > messages. > > -- > Dixi. > Sem. > Thanks Sem But on its own, as shown in my original posting, that does not solve the problem as portupgrade -a does not know that and throws the error, reports a stale dependency and requires me to fix the problem!! I must be missing something here!! David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 10:40:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD00216A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matti.k@bigpond.net.au) Received: from qsrv03sl.mx.bigpond.com (qsrv03sl.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.92.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F3313C4A6 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matti.k@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com ([138.130.173.220]) by omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070302091806.HADR28583.omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com>; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:18:06 +0000 Received: from platypus.freebsd.home ([138.130.173.220]) by oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070302091806.QBJP18620.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@platypus.freebsd.home>; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:18:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:14:57 +1100 From: matti k To: "t nagu tundmatu" Message-ID: <20070302201457.22b7e4e3@platypus.freebsd.home> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.2 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unlisted camera in gtkam? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:40:36 -0000 Try setting the camera to PTP mode, I've had success with unsupported camera's using this mode with ports/graphics/digikam. On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:48:54 +0200 "t nagu tundmatu" wrote: > Hello to all, >=20 > I have a problem with gtkam =E2=80=93 my new camera (Pentax K10D) is not > supported. I now got it listed in the menu but trying to 'add a new > camera' gives a message 'could not initialize the camera.' Is there > any trick I'm missing or is there maybe another program I can use > (with the support of this camera) or maybe a third option? >=20 > Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 11:02:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19D716A403 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: from web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D6AB13C4A3 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80688 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2007 10:35:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1IekMctHDEZWnuBPlzhebeUXhKRGZ4SaDqEbuwdu8aYndp2TARzkBWy+UcXE8qa4MYUJkXWQjt7jPT7Tel6Z8GQXIn2nM6ksVdxWiT4lBh4Cnlj3qUNiuxBTzE+/coVvT14YDzIA0t8EhlqVvEL8TslFanIQaFBdgIYtaVxvCSk=; X-YMail-OSG: cxwZgqAVM1mTUs23ECHL8WM9QuV8Y.4_mb6LhJz1.KUreygZWprx8_g2ZQZGcWdegfmZjMAYEvgaS7mQOVyQSSjKKfpCckuOGt2iR9acHQ7wCu8IQg5EJSRxneSUsx7EJNVKvOVziuP4cRo._01ejkBcTw-- Received: from [85.212.11.231] by web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:35:56 PST Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:35:56 -0800 (PST) From: "R. B. Riddick" To: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <455296.79993.qm@web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:02:38 -0000 --- "O. Hartmann" wrote: > Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone > explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 > defaults, but on both boxes nForce4 and ICH5 controller are recognized > and show up with SATA300 or SATA150 capabilities, respective)? May I > have some knobs I'm not aware of to tune disk performance? > I think, this 33MB/sec limit comes like this: The regular copy process (I think u used "cp") reads with speed S from disk A and writes with speed S to disk B. But: While it reads, it doesnt write AND while it writes, it doesnt read. So you might want to try this: dd if=/diskA/fileA bs=128k | dd of=/diskB/fileB bs=128k You could also try just to read or to write. Or to read&write with _independent_ processes. -Arne ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 11:27:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14F116A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from recife.ipad.com.br (recife.ipadnet.com.br [200.249.204.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E3313C47E for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from lobo.ipad.com.br ([192.168.64.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by recife.ipad.com.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l22BxMhq028118 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:59:23 -0300 From: Mario Lobo Organization: IPAD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:27:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703021127.42170.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:27:13 -0000 On Thursday 01 March 2007 17:27, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 3/1/07, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > > > groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* > ~/ffs.ps > > /\/\ This is what worked for me: [~]>gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/paper.ascii.gz > paper.ascii [~]>groff paper.ascii > ffs.ps [~]>ps2pdf ffs.ps [~]>acroread ffs.pdf -- ********************************************************* //| //| Mario Lobo // |// | http://www.ipad.com.br // // ||||||| FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free ********************************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 12:03:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1814316A401; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9819213C4AC; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:03:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5D618.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.214.24]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F8F2E168; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:03:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CCA5B4817; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:03:47 +0100 (CET) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l22C3kR9024262; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:03:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from proxy.Leidinger.net (proxy.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.103]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:03:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20070302130346.1ipa5epugws4scgw@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:03:46 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Cheffo References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <00c401c75caf$89ee3370$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E80CC5.8080607@FreeBSD-BG.org> In-Reply-To: <45E80CC5.8080607@FreeBSD-BG.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.187, required 8, BAYES_00 -15.00, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME 0.00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO 0.14, J_CHICKENPOX_25 0.60, TW_EV 0.08) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:03:55 -0000 Quoting Cheffo (from Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:38:45 +0200= ): > Hi, > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "O. Hartmann" =20 >> >> To: ; >> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:38 AM >> Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 >>> The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD =20 >>> boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux =20 >>> setups around here and I saw something interesting. >>> >> >> blah blah blah deleted >> >>> Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could =20 >>> anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like =20 >>> UDMA 33 >> >> man mount >> >> read section on "async" >> >> linux by default mounts async >> >> freebsd by default mounts sync >> >> you can change FBSD to async >> >> then watch your fs scramble during a power failure >> >> no big deal, it's only your data. >> >> Ted > > If SYNC is default how can you explain this: > > [12:58]root@hater:~# mount > /dev/ad4s3a on / (ufs, local, synchronous) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad4s3f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad4s3e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) [...] > So I'm pretty sure that for type ufs async is default. Both of you are wrong. By default "noasync" is used. This is different =20 from sync and async. Feel free to look up the difference. > Also I do not see why sync should report different speeds for copy and > benchmark tools if they do the same thing? Because cp may behave differently than the tools used to benchmark. A =20 dd may be more portable in this case. > Just to be sure I added to my /tmp entry async in /etc/fstab: > /dev/ad4s3d /tmp ufs rw,async 2 2 > > umounted and mounted again and still have: > /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) IIRC when SU is used, async is not used even if specified. But I' not =20 sure about this. Asides from the linux async-by-default there's maybe also the =20 write-cache-off penalty in FreeBSD. But I'm not sure it is off by =20 default. I disable the WC myself in loader.conf everywhere to be on =20 the safe side and I don't feel like experimenting ATM (I'm ill in bed). If the same conditions are tested in FreeBSD and linux (which is not =20 easy, as we don't share a common FS implementation, even when we =20 support the same FS type) and the sync/async and WC related stuff can =20 be ruled out, it may be a problem in the (S)ATA code and it would be =20 nice if we would know about this. So please dig deeper into this (it =20 can also be a problem with our cp or GEOM or whatever). Bye, Alexander. --=20 "I heard one time you single-handedly defeated a hoard of rampaging of somethings in the something something system." -Fry http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 12:04:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F11116A482 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cheffo@FreeBSD-BG.org) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B91913C474 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cheffo@FreeBSD-BG.org) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9C41B10ED2; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:38:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.125] (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507001B10EA4; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:38:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E80CC5.8080607@FreeBSD-BG.org> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:38:45 +0200 From: Cheffo User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <00c401c75caf$89ee3370$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <00c401c75caf$89ee3370$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:04:09 -0000 Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "O. Hartmann" > To: ; > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:38 AM > Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 > > >> The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes >> and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups >> around here and I saw something interesting. >> > > blah blah blah deleted > >> Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone >> explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 > > man mount > > read section on "async" > > linux by default mounts async > > freebsd by default mounts sync > > you can change FBSD to async > > then watch your fs scramble during a power failure > > no big deal, it's only your data. > > Ted If SYNC is default how can you explain this: [12:58]root@hater:~# mount /dev/ad4s3a on / (ufs, local, synchronous) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) [13:00]root@hater:~# cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad4s3b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad4s3a / ufs rw,sync 1 1 /dev/ad4s3d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s3f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s3e /var ufs rw 2 2 And this is only because I manually add *sync* to my /etc/fstab. E.g if sync is default why mount do not report that my /dev/ad4s3f on /usr is mounted synchronous? From what I seed in rc.X scripts mount -a -t ${mount_excludes} is used to mount things form fstab at boot time (sync or async is not set anywhere so we use dafault options here) So I'm pretty sure that for type ufs async is default. Also I do not see why sync should report different speeds for copy and benchmark tools if they do the same thing? Just to be sure I added to my /tmp entry async in /etc/fstab: /dev/ad4s3d /tmp ufs rw,async 2 2 umounted and mounted again and still have: /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) I think the problem is that the benchmark runs with small files and most files are in cache that's why it shows higher speeds - try to run bonnie++ with more and bigger files to be sure that the cache is not enough and to be able to see the real performance of your HDDs. PS: Here is what I got from RAID10 4x160GB SATA2 HDDs (areca RAID) BLAH - bonnie++ -d /var/tmp -u root -s 16g -n 256:65536:65536:16 Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP blah.cmotd.com 16G 159 88 54264 24 24727 12 299 94 70744 19 223.5 12 Latency 63581us 803ms 1123ms 93936us 94991us 251ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- blah.cmotd.com -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files:max:min /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 256:65536:65536/16 715 24 826 25 17321 49 733 24 51 2 6039 70 Latency 1220ms 408ms 2805ms 1189ms 692ms 2735ms 50MB/s write & 70MB/s read from 4HDDs .. so I do not know how you expect 75MB/s with single HDD. -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 13:23:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1A216A488 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4F513C481 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [10.0.0.173] ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22DNY3X003073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:23:35 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45E82550.80200@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:23:28 +0000 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:23:53 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> Steve Franks wrote: >>> How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find >>> anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an >>> issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Steve >> >> I'm thinking this one's in the FAQ at freebsd.org. >> > > Bah! HEADS-UP: Ignore any advice I feel compelled to give today. Two > retractions in one hour would seem to demonstrate a cranial > short-circuit this morning. Steve, it's not in the FAQ. > > Here's a link to a brief mailist discussion: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2003-July/000932.html > > Assuming you have Ghostscript installed (which may be a big IF), you > might be able to take a gander at the document mentioned with something > like: > > groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps > ps2pdf ~/ffs.ps > acroread ~/ffs.pdf > > But there's probably a better way --- I'm certainly "one offing" today. > If you dont mind reading in a terminal. gzcat /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* | more does the trick fine for me. By the way thanks for the link to the doc. Vince > Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 13:34:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CB516A40E for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E6713C4EF for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1230586nfc for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:34:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XJNUT2O3FiMpUfHevPCUy1r1KUPRR4MmMmVqjSbQW5AArlHSYCI+Ase3bmtwSCS/0MAyXxU3T0d/p0CqwNCJOjMJvuZve3By1fH1B7vQ79VAZMukfsD3CXSXX3wn9ZXP4Sl3kZsIbqUJiWRkPgde86rbHXQWCU3MOs7zMWlsBm0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sI/POYJqUc03rcUc7Ke2heGEkdrBPZzWUB04Ws0QJeErP5pIjLxk1OMoNNO/wUXw1fJt4KlRjGtPIwLqWdPn0AD+VeMEPfVogGazfed6wYzVYv++U78Kbd8dp7tCz3kRIPZsOMVaJCmWzHcutpCn6Rh/8XFLbQTe4VSZbf4mM/A= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr943228bue.1172842492122; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.168.13 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:34:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7dc029620703020534s523d30b2i4eb35e21941d4f40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:34:52 +0300 From: "Mike Barnard" To: "rithy_ray@khmerserver.net" In-Reply-To: <20070228213825.7kl15bozk4okcogw@65.19.179.8> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070228213825.7kl15bozk4okcogw@65.19.179.8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bandwidth limit server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:34:55 -0000 pf + altq is your friend...(a whole lot of reading for you though) On 3/1/07, rithy_ray@khmerserver.net wrote: > > Any one have idea about bandwidth limitation on FreeBSD to act as > distribution switch for an ISP's subscriber? > > Thanks & Best Regards, > Rithy RAY, CIO > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -- Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ph10 ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 14:12:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B7B16A507 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EECD13C4AA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.munyak@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 55so1188771wri for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:12:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OmZkDniEAOrBWH0tEH1v3qSm9/au636CkP3yP3J3W+BvPXcYsMsQiB3+Mlh5qx9daR0FqYhO8FjYWapZxQGa0MzXQ0b9cOck58yqQ2K7xXkwOZQ/GozXWzLX58LLS2SJluhWTK8JBb9oDGDFoJfikssb2CochLPoL5aqJGd71bA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nM4lXo9om12nA8pMPIXkQ1jE8C97WdHACJOX6sn6lgtfEuaZvKBJad7MNAYq8NV1Xa8O/2ewlh9MW0/DA3u2fB2WUYf7hWjDP+Sf5e8j/JazVqTiO8ar+pTLfgpGKTsT/356biZwSgATs7ypNHguh6TQrOxBYcyocaQgEc3c+VY= Received: by 10.114.183.1 with SMTP id g1mr243503waf.1172844751256; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.12 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:12:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6207f7d90703020612p76f381d6nd37801d7d687ebd2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:12:31 -0500 From: "Don Munyak" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070302014921.GA48654@the-grills.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6207f7d90703010553t745460aap9cdc3f8a03ffaf69@mail.gmail.com> <45E6DBB0.9050603@hier7.com> <6207f7d90703011310m2ffe7740i25c01aa748a79ae9@mail.gmail.com> <20070302014921.GA48654@the-grills.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: IPF (ftp - pkg_add) help requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:12:33 -0000 On 3/1/07, Kelly D. Grills wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 04:10:11PM -0500, Don Munyak wrote: > > As I hinted at in my original response, If you'd rather keep your > firewall rules tighter, pkg_add(1) says: > > Note: If you wish to use passive mode ftp in such transfers, set > the variable FTP_PASSIVE_MODE to some value in your environment. > ahh... now I see what your saying. I have my server setup to disallow root login from console. I login as user, then su to root. When I run # printenv |sort, This dispalys the env varibale for me, not root. How do I set|view env for root?..., specifically FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES ---------- OT... Kelley, btw...Baxter is cool :) I had a Pekingese once. For Halloween, I shaved off all her hair except for a 2" mohawk head-2-tail. I'll have to find the picture to send you some day. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 14:43:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADD316A403 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA42413C4A5 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1HN8yT-000P2k-HO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:43:09 -0500 Message-ID: <002401c75cd9$1a1e7210$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:43:11 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:43:17 -0000 Hi all, FreeBSD 'top' 6.n does not seem to show anything when the i flag (don't = display idle processes). the whole display (below the mem and cpu = information header) goes blank. Any ideas? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 14:48:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792BC16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xdivac02@stud.fit.vutbr.cz) Received: from eva.fit.vutbr.cz (eva.fit.vutbr.cz [147.229.176.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8E113C4AA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xdivac02@stud.fit.vutbr.cz) Received: from eva.fit.vutbr.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eva.fit.vutbr.cz (envelope-from xdivac02@eva.fit.vutbr.cz) (8.13.8/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l22EmY5t087454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:48:34 +0100 (CET) Received: (from xdivac02@localhost) by eva.fit.vutbr.cz (8.13.8/8.13.3/Submit) id l22EmYww087451; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:48:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:48:34 +0100 From: Divacky Roman To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20070302144833.GA87211@stud.fit.vutbr.cz> References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20070302104219.B5845@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070302104219.B5845@chylonia.3miasto.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 147.229.176.14 Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:48:41 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:43:34AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I watched the > >copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the value of 'KB/t' > >never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more frustrating, I never got > > what's wrong? FreeBSD uses 128k limit by default. > > edit /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h > > and change > > #define MAXPHYS (128 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ > > > to say > > #define MAXPHYS (1024 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ did anyone measure impact on various benchmark of this change? is 128k the optimal size for "nowadays computers" ? if we can squeeze more performance out of a typical box by just raising one define it would be great... roman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 13:35:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4D416A408; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [64.129.166.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8670113C4B2; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22DZ95Z005732; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:35:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <45E8280D.9020508@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:35:09 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070204) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Leidinger References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <00c401c75caf$89ee3370$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E80CC5.8080607@FreeBSD-BG.org> <20070302130346.1ipa5epugws4scgw@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20070302130346.1ipa5epugws4scgw@webmail.leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2697/Fri Mar 2 06:02:13 2007 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on mh1.centtech.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:09:33 +0000 Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , Cheffo , Ted Mittelstaedt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:35:16 -0000 On 03/02/07 06:03, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Cheffo (from Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:38:45 +0200): > >> Hi, >> >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "O. Hartmann" >>> >>> To: ; >>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:38 AM >>> Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 >>>> The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD >>>> boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux >>>> setups around here and I saw something interesting. >>>> >>> blah blah blah deleted >>> >>>> Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could >>>> anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like >>>> UDMA 33 >>> man mount >>> >>> read section on "async" >>> >>> linux by default mounts async >>> >>> freebsd by default mounts sync >>> >>> you can change FBSD to async >>> >>> then watch your fs scramble during a power failure >>> >>> no big deal, it's only your data. >>> >>> Ted >> If SYNC is default how can you explain this: >> >> [12:58]root@hater:~# mount >> /dev/ad4s3a on / (ufs, local, synchronous) >> devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >> /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) >> /dev/ad4s3f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) >> /dev/ad4s3e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) > [...] >> So I'm pretty sure that for type ufs async is default. > > Both of you are wrong. By default "noasync" is used. This is different > from sync and async. Feel free to look up the difference. > >> Also I do not see why sync should report different speeds for copy and >> benchmark tools if they do the same thing? > > Because cp may behave differently than the tools used to benchmark. A > dd may be more portable in this case. > >> Just to be sure I added to my /tmp entry async in /etc/fstab: >> /dev/ad4s3d /tmp ufs rw,async 2 2 >> >> umounted and mounted again and still have: >> /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > IIRC when SU is used, async is not used even if specified. But I' not > sure about this. > > > Asides from the linux async-by-default there's maybe also the > write-cache-off penalty in FreeBSD. But I'm not sure it is off by > default. I disable the WC myself in loader.conf everywhere to be on > the safe side and I don't feel like experimenting ATM (I'm ill in bed). > > If the same conditions are tested in FreeBSD and linux (which is not > easy, as we don't share a common FS implementation, even when we > support the same FS type) and the sync/async and WC related stuff can > be ruled out, it may be a problem in the (S)ATA code and it would be > nice if we would know about this. So please dig deeper into this (it > can also be a problem with our cp or GEOM or whatever). People should not be using file system tools to measure hardware speeds like SATA or disks. That doesn't make sense, since a portion of that benchmark would then include the file system, which as you mention is very very different between OS'es. cp shouldn't be used. dd is ok for bare minimum testing I suppose. On one of my SATA memory disks, I can get 125MB/s through it, with no extra magic. Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 15:10:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC7D16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E60D13C46B for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A65CEBC55; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:51:03 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Grant Peel Message-Id: <20070302095103.d6fbb8b3.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <002401c75cd9$1a1e7210$6501a8c0@GRANT> References: <002401c75cd9$1a1e7210$6501a8c0@GRANT> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:10:17 -0000 In response to "Grant Peel" : > Hi all, > > FreeBSD 'top' 6.n does not seem to show anything when the i flag (don't > display idle processes). the whole display (below the mem and cpu > information header) goes blank. > > Any ideas? Maybe all your processes are idle? What's the header look like when you do this? 99.9% idle, perhaps? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 15:28:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C1416A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (grnl-static-02-0046.dsl.iowatelecom.net [69.66.56.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2E213C4A3 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22FSX3b079624; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:28:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l22FSX0d079623; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:28:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:28:33 -0600 From: Brooks Davis To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20070302152832.GA79187@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:28:33 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:28:36 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:38:35AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes=20 > and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups=20 > around here and I saw something interesting. >=20 > On my lab's FreeBSD 6.2/i386 box (ASUS P4P800, ICH5 with two SATA 150=20 > ports, two SATA 300 drives attached) I copied big files (~ 5GB) from one= =20 > drive to another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I=20 > watched the copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the=20 > value of 'KB/t' never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more=20 > frustrating, I never got beyond 33 MB/s transfer rate although=20 > bonni/bonni++ told me both drives are capable doing much more (~75 MB/s= =20 > each). > At home, I use a FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT box on an ASUS=20 > A8N32-SLI/nForce4-SLI based box, amd64 (no 32Bit compatibility). Two=20 > Hitachi T7K250 250 GB/SATA II drives build up a RAID 0 (nVidia=20 > MediaShield), and additionally there is a SAMSUNG Spinpoitn SP2004C=20 > attached to the controller. bonni results in 55 MB/s for the SP2004C=20 > alone and gives ~ 65 - 70 MB/s for the Hitachis, each and roughly 115=20 > MB/s for the RAID 0. But copying from the single drive to the RAID 0 or= =20 > from the RAID 0 to the single drive also reaches this oscure 33 MB/s=20 > boundary! >=20 > In the first place I thought the older i386 hardware has some=20 > hard-limits, but we have several boxes of the exact same hardware around= =20 > here and a wide spread Linux and Windows utilization and on those boxes= =20 > equipted with more than one harddrive (PATA or SATA) the effective=20 > transfer rate shown up is about 50 - 65 MB/s as expected with copying a= =20 > big 5G file from one drive to another. >=20 > The hardwrae limit is completely nonsense when it comes to the AMD64 box= =20 > with newer hardware. >=20 > Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone=20 > explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33=20 > defaults, but on both boxes nForce4 and ICH5 controller are recognized=20 > and show up with SATA300 or SATA150 capabilities, respective)? May I=20 > have some knobs I'm not aware of to tune disk performance? >=20 > I would appreciate any coments on that and if someone has some good=20 > ideas how to benchmark those subjects, please let me know. One thing to keep in mind is that it matters a lot were on the disk you place the data due to the higher angular density of data at the outside of the disk. The results you are seeing are close to consistant with the kind of results I'd expect to see from writing at opposiste edges of the disk. The 33MB/s is suspious ane may diserve investigation, but make sure you are writing to the same part of the disk if you want to compare disk IO rates. There's an example of IO rates on recent large SATA disks: http://storagereview.com/articles/200607/500_2.html Also, you should time the actual copy and do the math to verify that vmstat is actually producing valid results. It's possible there's a bug in vmstat or the underlying statistics it uses. -- Brooks --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF6EKgXY6L6fI4GtQRArzYAJ4yi9tMIlmHB54psVhyicUGojfGJwCZARVf riI6eItmgtXAXpgi611e1vM= =iKHp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 16:00:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C852A16A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9323E13C4B5 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D155EBC55; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:40:57 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "Grant Peel" Message-Id: <20070302104057.d07c6d1b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <003301c75cda$dad952d0$6501a8c0@GRANT> References: <002401c75cd9$1a1e7210$6501a8c0@GRANT> <20070302095103.d6fbb8b3.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <003301c75cda$dad952d0$6501a8c0@GRANT> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:00:04 -0000 Please don't top-post. Please don't turn public discussions into private ones. Please read: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/index.html Format recovered, response in-line. In response to "Grant Peel" : > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Moran" > > > In response to "Grant Peel" : > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> FreeBSD 'top' 6.n does not seem to show anything when the i flag (don't > >> display idle processes). the whole display (below the mem and cpu > >> information header) goes blank. > >> > >> Any ideas? > > > > Maybe all your processes are idle? What's the header look like when you > > do this? 99.9% idle, perhaps? > > I have seen it drop to < 50% idle, with no process showing. Again, this is > when 'i' is selected. > > HEre is a quick capture I was able to get, note nothing showing in the > process section. This had to be set to 5 secs refresh as I couldn't capture > the cup usage fast enough at 1 second. I played with this a bit. It seems that top calculates whether a process is "idle" or not with a heavy bias toward "idle". I didn't look in to the code, but it seems like a process has to be running for the lion's share of the calculated timeslice for it to be considered non-idle. I don't know if this is intended behaviour or not, but it's not "broken", at worst it's "badly dinged" ;) Try this in another shell while watching top: while true; do STUFF="$PATH"; done and it will show up. My guess is that your usage is caused by many small processes, each taking up a small portion of the total CPU, but none taking up enough CPU to be considered non-idle by top. > > > last pid: 20389; load averages: 0.01, 0.23, 0.38 > up 93+11:18:57 09:53:35 > 106 processes: 2 running, 102 sleeping, 2 zombie > CPU states: 8.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.5% system, 0.0% interrupt, 90.5% > idle > Mem: 191M Active, 64M Inact, 125M Wired, 3768K Cache, 60M Buf, 110M Free > Swap: 2048M Total, 189M Used, 1859M Free, 9% Inuse, 4K In > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 16:15:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5C616A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:15:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D503513C4AC for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l22GCQXI090243; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:12:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l22GCPYN090242; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:12:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:12:25 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20070302161225.GB90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:15:08 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 02:17:31AM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > Well, it would do some, but for the greatest effect, you would need: > > dump + rm -rf * + restore > > This is nitpicking so ignore it: deleting all files on UFS2 volume won't > restore it to it's pristine state because inodes are lazily initialized. > It doesn't have anything to do with fragmentation, but will make fsck > run a little longer. > True it wouldn't be quite pristine because files would have different inodes assigned when they get reloaded than they might have if it was newfs-ed before reloading. That might make fsck run a tiny bit slower. But it wouldn't be any difference for a running system file access. On the other hand, doing all this either way wouldn't make any difference in performance for file access in a running system because so-called fragmentation is not an issue in the UNIX file system - except in the small possibility that it might make a bit of difference in a file system filled to capacity, well in to the reserve where non-root processes are not allowed to write anyway. I don't know just how close to absolutely full you have to get to see any difference, but it is beyond what users would normally get to. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 16:30:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E74416A405 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C939013C428 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l22GTPvQ010165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:29:33 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22GT6mv027481; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:29:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l22GSuNj027189; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:28:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:28:55 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mario Lobo Message-ID: <20070302162855.GA7250@kobe.laptop> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> <200703021127.42170.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703021127.42170.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.494, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL -0.31, BAYES_00 -2.60, BIZ_TLD 2.01, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:30:03 -0000 On 2007-03-02 11:27, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Thursday 01 March 2007 17:27, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > On 3/1/07, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > > > > > groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* > ~/ffs.ps > > This is what worked for me: > > [~]>gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/paper.ascii.gz > paper.ascii > [~]>groff paper.ascii > ffs.ps > [~]>ps2pdf ffs.ps > [~]>acroread ffs.pdf Actually 'paper.ascii' is a plain ASCII file with some 'escape sequences' -- like literal backspace and repeated characters, to denote *bold* text. It's not valid groff input AFAIK, but you can strip off the special characters with: gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/paper.ascii.gz > 05.fastfs.ascii col -b < 05.fastfs.ascii > 05.fastfs.txt && rm 05.fastfs.ascii Then you have a plain text version of 05.fastfs.txt, which can be converted to PS and/or PDF with tools like a2ps or enscript :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 16:40:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A26816A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D692D13C48D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l22GbREd090375; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:37:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l22GbQQd090374; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:37:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:37:26 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: RW Message-ID: <20070302163726.GC90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070302003410.4106fcfd@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070302003410.4106fcfd@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, beech@alaskaparadise.com Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:40:11 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:34:10AM +0000, RW wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:26 -0900 > Beech Rintoul wrote: > > > I should also mention that you need the FreeBSD boot manager on both > > disks, or an alternative boot manager such as grub or gag. Read the > > handbook. > > I recall reading that too, but I've never understood what it's supposed > to achieve. I imagine it must be a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, > I've certainly never needed to install more than one copy of GAG or > LILO. You may have installed the single sector that is needed without knowing it. I don't play with those and so I am less familiar with how they operate. They use up some space that is normally available, but is not officially guaranteed to be available to have a larger program and more complex tables. In FreeBSD and according to how it is officially done in DOS partitioned disks, there is a one block utility that goes in sector 0. Since it is only one block, its ability to do things is highly limited. It has the slice table and some flags and just enough code to look at its slice table to see which slices are marked bootable and to look at other disk to see which ones have a similar boot block. This block is called the MBR. If there are more than one boot possibilities, it gives you a menu list. The first four menu numbers are reserved for slices on its own disk. Starting with 5, the menu items point to the MBR on other disk[s]. I have never tried it with more than 2 disks with bootable slices on them, so I don't know if it will list a 6 or beyond. The MBR is not supposed to be OS specific, but the MS MBR breaks that rule by not recognizing any slice or other MBR that is not MS. Each bootable slice on a disk (up to 4 are allowed) has its own boot sector. If you select F1-F4, then the MBR will cause the boot sector from that slice to be loaded and then it passes control to it. That slice' boot sector is OS specific and continues the boot process from there. If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk to be loaded and passes control to it. Then that MBR looks at its own slice table and makes up a menu if there are more than one bootable slices on that drive. Since the first drive's MBR does not read the second drive's slice table or attempt to boot any of its slices, but only passes control to the second MBR, then the second disk needs an MBR to take over and handle its own slice table and bootable slices. If there is only one bootable slice on a drive or you make it a 'dangerously dedicated drive' you can get away without a full MBR on that drive and put a 'standard' boot block on it, but why bother? Just always remember to put an MBR on every drive that has any bootable slices. Note that fdisk puts the MBR on the drive. But, bsdlabel puts the per slice boot sector on it. That per slice boot sector must always be there regardless of how many bootable slices or if the drive is 'dangerously dedicated' if you want that slice to be bootable. That is a different issue from the MBR. I hope that clarifies things rather than muddying them up. It is all in the handbook plus man pages, but the language is slightly more formal and there are still a couple places that mung the use of the words partition and slice even though most have been recently cleaned up. I found a couple the other day, I think in 6.1 (but I forgot to write them down. I should have sent in a PR). ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 16:46:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C416C16A419 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@more.net) Received: from jane.spg.more.net (jane.spg.more.net [207.160.133.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E41513C461 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@more.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.spg.more.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765049C117; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:46:01 -0600 (CST) From: Dan D Niles To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <004c01c75cad$d7145500$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <1172784439.14922.47.camel@jane.spg.more.net> <004c01c75cad$d7145500$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:46:01 -0600 Message-Id: <1172853961.26327.8.camel@jane.spg.more.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Port Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:46:01 -0000 On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 01:33 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan D Niles" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:27 PM > Subject: Serial Port Problems > > > > > > More Dell 2950 woes. > > > > I use serial ports to manage my FreeBSD machines remotely. I've never > > had any problems until now. I've installed FreeBSD 6.2 on a Dell 2950. > > > > The install goes without problems over the serial port. After the > > reboot, I get the typical: > > > > FreeBSD/i386 (test.host.net) (ttyd0) > > > > login: > > > > and I can log in just fine. If I disconnect and come back later > > (sometimes), or if I hit return without entering a login name (always) > > it starts spitting out junk like: > > > > Get a cheapie pci serial port card, plug it in, and see if it works any > better > > Ted I use console redirection to have access to the BIOS over the serial port. Can I redirect console output to a pci card? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:02:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id C564F16A5AD; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20070302170200.C564F16A5AD@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:02:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id CD27116A5B0; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20070302170200.CD27116A5B0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:06:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC80816A40D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@canmos.ru) Received: from sta1.canmos.ru (sta1.canmos.ru [89.107.120.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AB113C4BA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@canmos.ru) Received: from sta1.canmos.ru (sta1.canmos.ru [89.107.120.27]) by sta1.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F1B1271BE for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:06:22 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:06:22 +0300 (MSK) From: "Igor V. Ruzanov" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: NeedHelp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:06:34 -0000 Hello! I compiled mbmon ver. 2.05 (console version) under FreeBSD 6.2 RELEASE. But i have the following problem when try to observe values about fan-speeds, t's and voltages: mail:/usr/ports/sysutils/mbmon$ mbmon -d -A 1 ioctl(smb0:open): No such file or directory SMBus[ALi M1533/1543C] found, but No HWM available on it!! Summary of Detection: * No monitors found. InitMBInfo: Bad file descriptor I think there is no kernel driver for ALi M1533/1543C device support, because devfs cannot create /dev/smb0. Could you please help me where i can get the driver for 6.2 RELEASE? This chip is integrated into ASUS P5RD1-VM motherboard. Thank you a lot! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:39:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB01216A404 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710A113C4B2 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HNBik-0006iM-Ty; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:39:06 +0000 Received: from [62.31.10.181] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HNBik-0003mG-9X; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:39:06 +0000 Message-ID: <45E86139.4070100@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:39:05 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070302003410.4106fcfd@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070302163726.GC90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070302163726.GC90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:39:08 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it >will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk to >be loaded and passes control to it. > > F5 moves to the next disk. From that next disk F5 moves on to the next disk again and so forth until there are no more disks and then it moves you back to the first disk. No F6 or greater. F5 will only successfully move on if there is a FreeBSD MBR (*) on the next disk. If there is not such an MBR, the F5 option is displayed but will not work (maybe beep?) and after a while you will timeout and boot whatever default you have. Bad idea to lose the MBR from a disk in the middle of a chain, but easy to put back booting from CD1. So as the OP had: F1: FreeBSD F5: Disk 2 (Windows) but had not put FreeBSD MBR on that second disk, F5 did nothing and then the F1 default kicked in and booted FreeBSD. Had the MBR been on that second disk it would have started to boot windows and then likely rebooted because the disk was no longer in the same position in the chain as it had been when Windows was installed. I don't believe it is necessary for Windows to always be the first disk, just that the disk has to stay in the same position as it was in when Windows was installed, which is usually the first disk! (Never tested that though). --Alex (*) Actually I have no idea what would happen if you stuck some other booter like grub or gag on a later disk. But blank (new) disk or Windows MBR will not move on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:41:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152B616A40A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E18313C491 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so845278muf for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:41:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ssadC8IEkLxGr2YoTo9BnXRhuWhV0+eBirHQ3mNV7EgZDtSjJtZTUb0LZLU8IbGDQD6Ehw3MEVLeQSyxCYvbgfnhIht0hognCS/wBdHoC6Ph8sAuWqJXPgo71yYutxtmAiHi2jDSE21mxbjQpAs9fyiQpuTcaio4GooBfPdkBuA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ft8bmJ4hr1SrqbQfZ9duSBVaW+NrjJKa4j9TyEBh9h4XHbmxLMbdeQGJerbhgZHiINmHvL9J4kASuPct55YBpbkr60qfHQRBsC0grHArajlLKSWt1273Sq2jh6t0271NlNnEo1t6TmBf61OrGhSKSD4Hl/VjUTQijEO2AnM6gM8= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr1102106bue.1172857278202; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.1 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:41:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:41:18 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Jeff Mohler" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X11 library question.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:41:20 -0000 On 01/03/07, Jeff Mohler wrote: > The error: > > error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object > file: No such file or directory > > > Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the right > answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. Indeed, % find /usr/X11R6/ -type f -iname "*libxm*" . . . /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % grep -r libXm /var/db/pkg/ . . . /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.a /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % ldconfig -r | grep libXm . . . 127:-lXm.3 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . You may need to run ldconfig -R (or ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib if /usr/X11R6/lib somehow did not get in the hints file). Alternatively, you may have an older version of open-motif, which means you need to upgrade it. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:43:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEDB16A406 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samjones1986@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A3313C4BB for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samjones1986@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so771416wxc for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:43:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=jaPKpU8tC8PRZY7qjaGswpq8irodvLuszSWGxXoMBd3I4T/FbFIxG6t6YVvMpbKIlDGn6hHteOGXb4hAVxtTeCbk4yiKpZMtRrUFBTdvbfDoJTRsTLJt8eRfer1svWLg3UzBSnxHDlHSf7At73nH/IlqelCgX11nwaL+DEum5Zw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=S0QgFaKhNJST7vVselllOWZKs4weiorprpceu0ufCflPNw8LLRugyxww2t/IOhqNRHqOaYO1f1UQqJO9HaTARuyTyyW8LUaJ3o3WYCULx8ZRuZ/m4LwYuSqV3BllOzrVzDb9wuaBPxu2Blq/Vinb1i646ML/ZVACbuIdzGxHp9k= Received: by 10.70.65.8 with SMTP id n8mr5039902wxa.1172857429992; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.45.13 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:43:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <63c8e94f0703020943p3bbceffcn2942c28a2bac08eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:43:49 -0500 From: "Sam Jones" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: musicpd frustrations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:43:51 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to get musicpd to start on bootup. I'm doing my best to follow the documentation on the website, but there are slight contradictions as far as where to put config files. Right now I have the line musicpd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf, the file /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd, and the file /usr/local/etc/mpd.conf, which looks like this: port "6600" music_directory "~/music" playlist_directory "~/playlists" log_file "~/.mpdlog" error_file "~/.mpderror" db_file "~/.mpddb" filesystem_charset "ISO-8859-1" user "sdjones" I can start musicpd by typing /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd start but it won't start at bootup. -- Sam Jones sjone9ek@umw.edu samjones1986@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:52:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A668516A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA9613C494 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l22HnNPx090838; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l22HnNJ5090837; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:23 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Alex Zbyslaw Message-ID: <20070302174923.GA90779@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070302003410.4106fcfd@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070302163726.GC90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45E86139.4070100@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E86139.4070100@dial.pipex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:52:05 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:39:05PM +0000, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it > >will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk to > >be loaded and passes control to it. > > > F5 moves to the next disk. From that next disk F5 moves on to the next > disk again and so forth until there are no more disks and then it moves > you back to the first disk. No F6 or greater. OK. That makes sense. I have not had enough disk on hand to try beyond two. > F5 will only successfully move on if there is a FreeBSD MBR (*) on the > next disk. If there is not such an MBR, the F5 option is displayed but > will not work (maybe beep?) and after a while you will timeout and boot > whatever default you have. Hmmm. I thought it would still do a 'dedicated' FreeBSD disk as the second one without an MBR. It will do the first disk, but that is a different situation, of course. > Bad idea to lose the MBR from a disk in the middle of a chain, but easy > to put back booting from CD1. Yup. If you lose the MBR, it can be put back using the Fixit from the installation CD (CD-1). > So as the OP had: > > F1: FreeBSD > F5: Disk 2 (Windows) > > but had not put FreeBSD MBR on that second disk, F5 did nothing and then > the F1 default kicked in and booted FreeBSD. Had the MBR been on that > second disk it would have started to boot windows and then likely > rebooted because the disk was no longer in the same position in the > chain as it had been when Windows was installed. Makes sense. I don't keep up with the Windows stuff much, but I knew it would not be happy in that position and the lack of an MBR on the second disk was where the boot process was stopping. > I don't believe it is necessary for Windows to always be the first disk, > just that the disk has to stay in the same position as it was in when > Windows was installed, which is usually the first disk! (Never tested > that though). Hmmm. Might be interesting to experiment, though that time spent on MS could probably be better spend elsewhere. > > --Alex > > (*) Actually I have no idea what would happen if you stuck some other > booter like grub or gag on a later disk. But blank (new) disk or > Windows MBR will not move on. Don't know this one. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:52:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E0B16A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7149F13C494 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC485193C for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:52:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:52:52 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070302175252.16a43a6f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070302163726.GC90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070302003410.4106fcfd@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070302163726.GC90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:52:56 -0000 On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:37:26 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:34:10AM +0000, RW wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:26 -0900 > > Beech Rintoul wrote: > > > > > I should also mention that you need the FreeBSD boot manager on > > > both disks, or an alternative boot manager such as grub or gag. > > > Read the handbook. > > > > I recall reading that too, but I've never understood what it's > > supposed to achieve. I imagine it must be a quirk of the FreeBSD > > boot manager, I've certainly never needed to install more than one > > copy of GAG or LILO. > > If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it > will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk > to be loaded and passes control to it. Then that MBR looks at its > own slice table and makes up a menu if there are more than one > bootable slices on that drive. In other words it *is* a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, in that it doesn't allow you to chainload a partition on another drive directly. You have to chainload the intermediate MBR which needs a second copy of the bootmanager. Most bootmanagers can do this directly, using the partition table on the other drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:55:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6218E16A407 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958E813C461 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so946477nza for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:55:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=C2Vi/K8eaWSskesuNEgUMsm1hRTAiXR5w03BIpdPY/dv2H2jItHwP9UrAguXV6SFmtS73AsF+Lq8+JiKlutBaSfVvfXr2lJh8W7pKHQP4c/bq1uteYgKWDTU5vuZIwQg/xvmpXlWQAg5ZIlUxuUjbyHyydSaFjY5SG34uTtYzp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZB+PuHzPNpcu61hlCSWUFu78sD+Tc+tVjZ4vLIpALfwe4ptRk80CtWrEq4y+0m0n7xSEEOujGe9CE2TW6p0oo5YAhxPWco6zOJDgniKnBVzz1FHjIc4PLY0WAIlvaIRn3PBOBQnlNRIkh11IRYmgIjf14d4x3KHsGQtUn94Vces= Received: by 10.65.230.9 with SMTP id h9mr5540526qbr.1172858124266; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.7 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:54:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60703020954n7068e7eele9f8f7d875a1767@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:54:59 -0500 From: "David Robillard" To: peter@placidpublishing.net In-Reply-To: <45E7A83C.5090704@placidpublishing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <226ae0c60702151024u6c71d50bn72d54631c33ed32@mail.gmail.com> <45D4DF88.1020009@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702151454x4b32e698hb89b51005b6938e@mail.gmail.com> <45D5FD5B.6030605@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702161146i6ce6b54ayab9e279c9cf28d1@mail.gmail.com> <45E53C8F.8090100@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702280813q288f646bt8fb8fca886716ee4@mail.gmail.com> <45E5FBE1.3030207@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702281513o918561eo54f8eaf906d6a096@mail.gmail.com> <45E7A83C.5090704@placidpublishing.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apache Rotate Logs and Log Rotate. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:55:37 -0000 On 3/1/07, Peter Pluta wrote: > What I did was made a new log format to include the %v (it includes the > vhost name in the logs). Lowered my error log to just info. I also got > rid of the errorlog and customlog in my vhost brackets and setup > newsyslog to rotate the http-access.log and http-error.log after 24 > hours. This is what I pretty much wanted. I have more space in /home/ > now since there are no log files in there and I also have 1 main log > that I can rotate and view or separate if needed. It makes it a lot easier. > > I have a quick question though. Say I am hosting a few sites for > customers and they want to run their own statistics programs that rely > on log files. How would I deal with the logs if they were in each users > home directory? Those logs add up after a week or so; not to mention if > someone had a larger site that generated larger logs. What exactly could > be done in that situation to allow stats and still have a functional web > server? Hi Peter, What I do with stats is use webalizer which is available from the ports directory as www/webalizer. Webalizer keeps the history of your logs, so you don't have to keep the old ones around. I run webalizer from cron once and a while to generate stats. I've wraped it in a simple shell script to check all my virtual sites listed in a custom config file in /usr/local/etc and dump the stats file into /path/to/virtual/host/stats. I then setup a /stats Alias in httpd.conf for each virtual site and protect it with a simple .htpasswd. Easy. BTW, may I suggest you also include the freebsd-questions list in Cc when you write back? Some people might be interested by what we're talking about. In fact, ideally we should only 'talk' via the list, but that's ok with me. Cheers, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:57:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC81F16A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE92413C481 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0858F6860B93C; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:38:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Ev5ZyiXzQbFe; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id DF5E36860B93B; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:38:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:38:24 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070228233824.GA25235@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> <45E6113A.2060500@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E6113A.2060500@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:57:10 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Vince wrote: >Josh Tolbert wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:12:58PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: >>> I'd like to cron a process that looks at a certain folder every day and >>> changes the perms on a directory if they aren't what I want. >>> Unfortunately, the people creating the folders are Windows folks using >>> WinSCP, and so they create folders with spaces in them. (E.g. Day 1, Day >>> 2, etc.) >>> >>> I thought I could just do this: >>> chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d` >>> >>> but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously) >>> doesn't work. >>> >>> >From the cli, find returns the actual directory name. >>> >>> How can I get find to return the dirs correctly in a script? Or is there >>> some other way to do this that would work? >>> >>> Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) >> >> find /path/to/dirs -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755 >> >or just >find /path/to/dirs -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; >should do it. While that works, the -print0 | xargs -0 is far more efficient as it isn't exec'ing a process for every match. This may not be important for a few files or directories, but can make a significant difference when processing thousands of entries. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 When I hear a man applauded by the mob I always feel a pang of pity for him. All he has to do to be hissed is to live long enough. -- H.L. Mencken, ``Minority Report'' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 17:58:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EC516A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D1A13C4B7 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1CD5190F for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:58:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:58:51 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070302175851.1c7a0fbd@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070302174923.GA90779@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070302003410.4106fcfd@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070302163726.GC90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45E86139.4070100@dial.pipex.com> <20070302174923.GA90779@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:58:55 -0000 On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:23 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:39:05PM +0000, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > (*) Actually I have no idea what would happen if you stuck some > > other booter like grub or gag on a later disk. But blank (new) > > disk or Windows MBR will not move on. > > Don't know this one. > Presumably it would just chainload the other bootmanager, but there's not much point in doing that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 18:00:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB8C16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C8413C49D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1312129nfc for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:00:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qX3Fxa8Z73t36+vtIZuwG8d3lE37WkruWJ6p/QIdJbX7uolqPypH0ty2ckQfuW61Z07ENSEE2e3KrwjRp9AfgyW1hzrcMnzNhu62o+t5/wGZCAH6rzYscdi/fFIK9GJCucOeBy+h33gYnSumJKcsBcguYpwCk7r3F6+P6Srw8H0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AXRA2AU5JL+e+HL6HHn/BDxDuR687RXDU32lLdOkmo7sDqB7uj8vRALOAaz6/l6tMvEfcQ9Xl3sqbsxBqu5EqiwRP3VL5rB8lXUO8N7asH8qN8kp7YKfgDQ0zTpspwzlUPOCWEExRuGrT2xj3BJoWCb0wRY6q4HtgIWAktqzK2Y= Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr1112966buc.1172858417684; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.1 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:00:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:00:17 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Igor V. Ruzanov" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NeedHelp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:00:19 -0000 On 02/03/07, Igor V. Ruzanov wrote: > Hello! > I compiled mbmon ver. 2.05 (console version) under FreeBSD 6.2 RELEASE. But i > have the following problem when try to observe values about fan-speeds, t's and > voltages: > > mail:/usr/ports/sysutils/mbmon$ mbmon -d -A 1 > ioctl(smb0:open): No such file or directory > SMBus[ALi M1533/1543C] found, but No HWM available on it!! > Summary of Detection: > * No monitors found. > InitMBInfo: Bad file descriptor > > I think there is no kernel driver for ALi M1533/1543C device support, > because devfs cannot create /dev/smb0. Could you please help me where i > can get the driver for 6.2 RELEASE? > This chip is integrated into ASUS P5RD1-VM motherboard. You need to compile smb support into your kernel, as it is not in the GENERIC kernel. See /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 18:13:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B2016A407 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B854C13C4C9 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l22IBISb090952; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:11:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l22IBInN090951; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:11:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:11:18 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: RW Message-ID: <20070302181118.GA90911@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <63c8e94f0703011336l3b90c7b8r3b3ba31423aa2276@mail.gmail.com> <200703011321.43142.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200703011330.45944.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070302003410.4106fcfd@gumby.homeunix.com> <20070302163726.GC90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070302175252.16a43a6f@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070302175252.16a43a6f@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual booting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:13:59 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:52:52PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:37:26 -0500 > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:34:10AM +0000, RW wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:26 -0900 > > > Beech Rintoul wrote: > > > > > > > I should also mention that you need the FreeBSD boot manager on > > > > both disks, or an alternative boot manager such as grub or gag. > > > > Read the handbook. > > > > > > I recall reading that too, but I've never understood what it's > > > supposed to achieve. I imagine it must be a quirk of the FreeBSD > > > boot manager, I've certainly never needed to install more than one > > > copy of GAG or LILO. > > > > > If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it > > will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk > > to be loaded and passes control to it. Then that MBR looks at its > > own slice table and makes up a menu if there are more than one > > bootable slices on that drive. > > In other words it *is* a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, in that it > doesn't allow you to chainload a partition on another drive directly. > You have to chainload the intermediate MBR which needs a second copy of > the bootmanager. Most bootmanagers can do this directly, using the > partition table on the other drive. I wouldn't call it a quirk of FreeBSD. FreeBSD does it the 'canonical' way. The others use additional space on the rest of the track, that is technically not available, to make a bigger program and tables that can do additional things. That's nice, but not officially supported. So, it is really a _quirk_ of Grub/Gag/others and not guaranteed to work. What would be really nice is if the world just decided to create an official standard that makes that whole track available since it really most often is - actually, I don't know any modern system where it is not, but I haven't made a survey. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 18:51:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F46416A405; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [64.129.166.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA4913C49D; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22IowaM063935; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:50:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <45E87212.1010208@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:50:58 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070204) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20070302152832.GA79187@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20070302152832.GA79187@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2702/Fri Mar 2 09:04:51 2007 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on mh1.centtech.com Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:51:01 -0000 On 03/02/07 09:28, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:38:35AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes >> and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups >> around here and I saw something interesting. >> >> On my lab's FreeBSD 6.2/i386 box (ASUS P4P800, ICH5 with two SATA 150 >> ports, two SATA 300 drives attached) I copied big files (~ 5GB) from one >> drive to another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I >> watched the copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the >> value of 'KB/t' never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more >> frustrating, I never got beyond 33 MB/s transfer rate although >> bonni/bonni++ told me both drives are capable doing much more (~75 MB/s >> each). >> At home, I use a FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT box on an ASUS >> A8N32-SLI/nForce4-SLI based box, amd64 (no 32Bit compatibility). Two >> Hitachi T7K250 250 GB/SATA II drives build up a RAID 0 (nVidia >> MediaShield), and additionally there is a SAMSUNG Spinpoitn SP2004C >> attached to the controller. bonni results in 55 MB/s for the SP2004C >> alone and gives ~ 65 - 70 MB/s for the Hitachis, each and roughly 115 >> MB/s for the RAID 0. But copying from the single drive to the RAID 0 or >> from the RAID 0 to the single drive also reaches this oscure 33 MB/s >> boundary! >> >> In the first place I thought the older i386 hardware has some >> hard-limits, but we have several boxes of the exact same hardware around >> here and a wide spread Linux and Windows utilization and on those boxes >> equipted with more than one harddrive (PATA or SATA) the effective >> transfer rate shown up is about 50 - 65 MB/s as expected with copying a >> big 5G file from one drive to another. >> >> The hardwrae limit is completely nonsense when it comes to the AMD64 box >> with newer hardware. >> >> Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone >> explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 >> defaults, but on both boxes nForce4 and ICH5 controller are recognized >> and show up with SATA300 or SATA150 capabilities, respective)? May I >> have some knobs I'm not aware of to tune disk performance? >> >> I would appreciate any coments on that and if someone has some good >> ideas how to benchmark those subjects, please let me know. > > One thing to keep in mind is that it matters a lot were on the disk you > place the data due to the higher angular density of data at the outside > of the disk. The results you are seeing are close to consistant with > the kind of results I'd expect to see from writing at opposiste edges > of the disk. The 33MB/s is suspious ane may diserve investigation, but > make sure you are writing to the same part of the disk if you want to > compare disk IO rates. > > There's an example of IO rates on recent large SATA disks: > > http://storagereview.com/articles/200607/500_2.html > > Also, you should time the actual copy and do the math to verify that > vmstat is actually producing valid results. It's possible there's a bug > in vmstat or the underlying statistics it uses. I usually use gstat instead, but it might also be off (although my tests in the past have not proven that). Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 19:21:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E4B16A405 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD2813C4BA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6710170DB5C; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:01:35 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgate.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6zuf-eZk4eDu; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:01:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.tsgincorporated.com (ns2.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.6]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB2170DB34; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:01:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from micheallap (micheal-lap [67.66.242.78]) by mail.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C1FA9952ACA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:00:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <015001c75cfd$6ddc64b0$4ef24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Sam Jones" , References: <63c8e94f0703020943p3bbceffcn2942c28a2bac08eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:59:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: Subject: Re: musicpd frustrations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:21:05 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Jones" To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: musicpd frustrations > Hi all, > > I'm trying to get musicpd to start on bootup. I'm doing my best to > follow the documentation on the website, but there are slight > contradictions as far as where to put config files. Right now I have > the line > > musicpd_enable="YES" > > in /etc/rc.conf, the file /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd, and the file > /usr/local/etc/mpd.conf, which looks like this: > > port "6600" > music_directory "~/music" > playlist_directory "~/playlists" > log_file "~/.mpdlog" > error_file "~/.mpderror" > db_file "~/.mpddb" > filesystem_charset "ISO-8859-1" > user "sdjones" > > I can start musicpd by typing > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd start > > but it won't start at bootup. > -- > Sam Jones > sjone9ek@umw.edu > samjones1986@gmail.com /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd should be /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd.sh for it to be started at bootup unless things have changed in the bootup requirements that I'm not aware of. -- Micheal Patterson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 19:29:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B621116A402; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3F613C474; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22JTdN4061177; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:29:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l22JTdrU091774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:29:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200703021929.l22JTdrU091774@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:27:41 -0500 To: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:29:40 -0000 At 04:38 AM 3/2/2007, O. Hartmann wrote: >The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD >boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux >setups around here and I saw something interesting. > >On my lab's FreeBSD 6.2/i386 box (ASUS P4P800, ICH5 with two SATA >150 ports, two SATA 300 drives attached) I copied big files (~ 5GB) >from one drive to Something strange about your setup I would say. I just tried on a Segate SATA drive off an ICH5 chipset (plain old P IV 2.4Ghz). Do you have an option in your BIOS for "native mode" or compatibility mode for the SATA controller ? If so, try toggling that to native SATA mode [ns4]% iostat -c 1000 tty ad4 twed0 cpu tin tout KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s us ni sy in id 2 447 4.91 0 0.00 23.77 40 0.92 20 0 6 0 74 4 307 0.00 0 0.00 12.61 14 0.17 0 0 0 0 100 1 183 0.00 0 0.00 14.50 4 0.06 0 0 0 0 100 1 63 128.00 47 5.82 0.00 0 0.00 7 0 7 0 86 0 182 128.00 534 66.70 15.25 8 0.12 0 0 15 8 77 0 60 128.00 553 69.13 2.00 2 0.00 0 0 8 8 85 0 182 128.00 537 67.14 14.50 4 0.06 15 0 31 15 38 0 60 128.00 553 69.06 0.00 0 0.00 54 0 0 8 38 0 60 128.00 538 67.21 0.00 0 0.00 23 0 0 8 69 1 301 128.00 495 61.88 12.18 22 0.26 0 0 8 0 92 [ns4]# dd if=/dev/ad4 of=/dev/null bs=1024k ^C410+0 records in 410+0 records out 429916160 bytes transferred in 6.089321 secs (70601659 bytes/sec) [ns4]# [ns4]# atacontrol cap ad4 Protocol Serial ATA II device model ST3400833NS serial number 5NF25DTG firmware revision 3.AEH cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 lba supported 268435455 sectors lba48 supported 781422768 sectors dma supported overlap not supported Feature Support Enable Value Vendor write cache yes yes read ahead yes yes Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 31/0x1F SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management no no 65278/0xFEFE automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 254/0xFE [ns4]# >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 19:57:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853E316A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F0613C481 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so739062ugh for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:57:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Gnh6tueSpLt1qARXS12d2nrr0YX+mKVaXX1okedHOXb4uCTaQ/uA+37b4pwW4U9ImcJwjhtPH0Dv8Sc5iRrrSxoVN1WzyYU/cBN8uH36LYXPoGNYyXla0gGCX4rWhWfCZVUIrQnT7g2/0w+hkr9c4RxNNBKAUYis6dclitNUw+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=n+bYzuLHYX4Yitz3+5g1AyVaCvN/+IdqSZ86PLWky3SOvd7Mk0uanuiTkRF7O/TtGH9H+CzZnyBohTQhTQ4869fPqhOc2veLgPk3BQsjclqnwurjCt29M0gTezlBHQZcNRx05aE/S94dmwRB3A4uSe3uNcI3CGeUujbamFieI3k= Received: by 10.66.255.7 with SMTP id c7mr3840664ugi.1172863867038; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.221.18 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:31:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <755cb9fc0703021131s197d4f4bpd0a1decbf3b7dc76@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:31:06 +0000 From: "Alexandre Vieira" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0703021022x11e32010pa50107bf5787139c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <755cb9fc0703021022x11e32010pa50107bf5787139c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:57:15 -0000 Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards -- Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 20:40:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED9C16A403 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwb@homer.att.com) Received: from mail146.messagelabs.com (mail146.messagelabs.com [216.82.245.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0C0613C478 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwb@homer.att.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jwb@homer.att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-146.messagelabs.com!1172866397!12165785!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [134.24.146.4] Received: (qmail 6225 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 20:13:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO attrh3i.attrh.att.com) (134.24.146.4) by server-5.tower-146.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 20:13:17 -0000 Received: from attrh.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by attrh3i.attrh.att.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22KDD8V017307 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ulysses.homer.att.com (ulysses.homer.att.com [135.205.193.8]) by attrh3i.attrh.att.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22KD6AK017247 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (akiva.homer.att.com [135.205.212.39]) by ulysses.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08934 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by akiva.homer.att.com (8.11.7+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id l22KCtp01272 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:12:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200703022012.l22KCtp01272@akiva.homer.att.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:12:55 -0500 From: "J. W. Ballantine" Subject: slice/booting problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:40:00 -0000 I have a two disk system, and I'm trying to install FBSD6.2 on slice 2 of the second disk, a configuration that I've had working in the past. I'm using the Standard installation, select the second disk (ad1) and create a slice (ad1s2) and then create the partitions within that slice. On that disk, I install the FreeBSD Boot Manager (I have a third party boot manager installed on ad0 that boots FreeBSD). During the install, I ls /dev and find the ad1s2 partitions created. After the install, when I try to re-boot, it fails when it trys to mountroot. When I enter ?, I get a listr of GEOM managed disks, but the partitions are not listed, while the slice is. Any ideas on what I'm missing??? Thanks Jim Ballantine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 19:44:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504CB16A400; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F6A13C471; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.187]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F006285C8DC; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:23:59 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68780-03; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:24:05 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718B085C8DB; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:23:59 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B805FB31; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:24:07 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:24:07 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, advocacy@openbsd.org, users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, Thorsten Glaser , Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.7 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:45:45 +0000 Cc: Subject: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:44:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in first of month numbers, so its still growing ... Thanks to all that are participating ... for those just tuning in, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... there was a new version put up (v5.3, already in FreeBSD ports) over the past little while that extends the reporting for the FreeBSD ports system ... I have no experience with any of the other *BSD ports systems, but if someone would like to submit a patch to include theirs, please feel free. It is another purely optional report that gives numbers of ports in use, including version numbers, for the various software packages. Feb Mar % Chg DesktopBSD 9 13 44% 8 13 62% DragonFly 17 10 -41% 12 10 -16% FreeBSD 4297 4147 -3% 3719 3890 4% MidnightBSD 3 1 -66% 0 1 -100% MirBSD 13 3 -76% 0 0 -100% NetBSD 126 116 -7% 99 97 -2% OpenBSD 94 82 -12% 64 73 14% PC-BSD 4223 765 -81% 151 303 100% Overall 8782 5137 -41% 4053 4387 8% - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF6HnX4QvfyHIvDvMRArHcAJoCTG5qxniyCX4pBO4BUqaFWkZyrgCdFSRU ii1pXBhv+FjueDEzWHaCddc= =eWFN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 21:16:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF7316A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C3F13C46B for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from cpe-72-128-118-142.wi.res.rr.com ([72.128.118.142] helo=cheyenne.sixcompanies.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HNF7D-000495-KC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:16:35 -0500 Received: from coors.sixcompanies.com (coors.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.5]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l22LGXhS001075 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:16:33 -0600 (CST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 72.128.118.142 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: lonebandit Message-Id: <200703022116.l22LGXhS001075@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:16:33 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: dhclient.conf + resolv.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:16:36 -0000 I am trying to have dhclient setup my resolv.conf perfect. I am very close. I have this in dhclient.conf: ------------------------- interface "bge1" { supersede domain-name "wixb.com"; prepend domain-name-servers 192.l68.1.1; request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, routers, domain-name-servers; } --------------------- What this is giving me is this: search wixb.com nameserver 192.168.1.1 nameserver 24.94.163.100 nameserver 24.94.163.101 What I would like to do is change the 'search' to 'domain' and cant figure out what I am missing? -JD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 21:48:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2754516A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCAE13C428 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l22LjpZA091781; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:45:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l22LjpNm091780; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:45:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:45:51 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "J. W. Ballantine" Message-ID: <20070302214551.GA91738@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200703022012.l22KCtp01272@akiva.homer.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703022012.l22KCtp01272@akiva.homer.att.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slice/booting problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:48:32 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:12:55PM -0500, J. W. Ballantine wrote: > > I have a two disk system, and I'm trying to install FBSD6.2 on slice 2 > of the second disk, a configuration that I've had working in the past. > > I'm using the Standard installation, select the second disk (ad1) > and create a slice (ad1s2) and then create the partitions within > that slice. On that disk, I install the FreeBSD Boot Manager (I have > a third party boot manager installed on ad0 that boots FreeBSD). > > During the install, I ls /dev and find the ad1s2 partitions created. > > After the install, when I try to re-boot, it fails when it trys to > mountroot. When I enter ?, I get a listr of GEOM managed disks, but > the partitions are not listed, while the slice is. > > Any ideas on what I'm missing??? Just a wild guess: That either the first or second disk didn't really get an MBR written to it - or the third party boot manager on the first disk might not play nicely with the one on the second disk. Try using fdisk (from the install CD fixit if necessary) to write the FreeBSD MBR to both disks. You can put the other third party booter back afterward if desired/needed. ////jerry > > Thanks > > Jim Ballantine > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 22:07:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A4816A401 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8B313C491 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-75-87-219-217.new.res.rr.com [75.87.219.217]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l22L3eBF010861; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:03:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l22L6nAc040923; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:06:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 69.48.112.156 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:00:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <57114.69.48.112.156.1172869231.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:00:31 -0600 (CST) From: "Doug Poland" To: "Marc G. Fournier" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2702/Fri Mar 2 09:04:51 2007 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:07:35 -0000 On Fri, March 2, 2007 13:24, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? > I did :) > Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in > first of month numbers, so its still growing ... > The numbers are still so low that I question if the project's goal will be realized. Is it too early to extrapolate what the "real" numbers may be? i.e., if we've got 5000 FreeBSD hosts, and we know about 1 in 50 register, then there are probably 250,000 hosts in the wild? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 21:10:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD60D16A403; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@ixsystems.com) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (newknight.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5F513C441; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@ixsystems.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF435BE60; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28316-08; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from client-134.nat.ixsystems.net (drawbridge.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E35BE59; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:57 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Olander Organization: iXsystems To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:54 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703021249.55950.matt@ixsystems.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:32:05 +0000 Cc: netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, "Marc G. Fournier" , Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez , Thorsten Glaser , users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@openbsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:10:37 -0000 On Friday 02 March 2007 11:24 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? > > Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in > first of month numbers, so its still growing ... Thanks Marc! I noticed and I missed it ;-) -matt -- Matt Olander CTO, iXsystems - "Servers for Open Source" http://www.iXsystems.com Public Relations, The FreeBSD Project http://www.FreeBSD.org BSD on the Desktop! http://www.pcbsd.org Phone: (408)943-4100 ext. 113 Fax: (408)943-4101 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 22:40:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A75016A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA6F13C491 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l22MepJs000163 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:40:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l22MepOs000162 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:40:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:40:50 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070302224050.GB99502@thought.org> References: <20070228231635.GB73748@just.puresimplicity.net> <45E6113A.2060500@unsane.co.uk> <20070228233824.GA25235@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070228233824.GA25235@ayn.mi.celestial.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Subject: Re: find returns unusable result X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:40:53 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:38:24PM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Vince wrote: > >Josh Tolbert wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:12:58PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >>> I'd like to cron a process that looks at a certain folder every day and > >>> changes the perms on a directory if they aren't what I want. > >>> Unfortunately, the people creating the folders are Windows folks using > >>> WinSCP, and so they create folders with spaces in them. (E.g. Day 1, Day > >>> 2, etc.) > >>> > >>> I thought I could just do this: > >>> chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d` > >>> > >>> but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously) > >>> doesn't work. > >>> > >>> >From the cli, find returns the actual directory name. > >>> > >>> How can I get find to return the dirs correctly in a script? Or is there > >>> some other way to do this that would work? > >>> > >>> Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > >> > >> find /path/to/dirs -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755 > >> > >or just > >find /path/to/dirs -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > >should do it. > > While that works, the -print0 | xargs -0 is far more efficient as it isn't > exec'ing a process for every match. This may not be important for a few > files or directories, but can make a significant difference when processing > thousands of entries. I don't mean to steal this thread, but it might help to know if egrep -[xyz] bar or other things might be joined in the " | xargs" part of the pipeline. Lots of times I'll want a find search to print0 filename and egrep, say, -3 strings and search for substrings nearby. The greps will recurse across many dirs with scores of files so I want to search to be efficient. In other words, how flexible is xargs? gary > > Bill > -- > INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC > URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way > FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 > > When I hear a man applauded by the mob I always feel a pang of pity > for him. All he has to do to be hissed is to live long enough. > -- H.L. Mencken, ``Minority Report'' > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 22:52:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0DC16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A842713C471 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so917742muf for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PGYTCzHTzDtHv5xiq6lMenSQwVORJ8hhMOD1Jn0PJy/HMrEySwUtAY0WwnHM2LVl2l26FTyXlXfh2d3KlNdGUEbqGTFLt9y8rCp6QIAh5rjfngRFT++xlpy0RcxjZa6hrnBdoAI7zw7UIQgLsb6ke4M5HNZLAwx26YHa3/NBQtE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QtbnoVPbUIABhceMlnYhAkpfVj0ARZZFieyHkFz2V1qGYDV2vpQKikKyaXQ9D8feAXO0S5Sf1Bzn1mOudjP2DMgrsNId3cgdwNIwx0CIC7zWjqCo7VdlvDsna5j7F7QnqEEiA06ZkJQDpd9oimXc2mmV+QgB3+FqCzBmiilBf6I= Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr1176971buc.1172875921428; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.1 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:52:01 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <57114.69.48.112.156.1172869231.squirrel@email.polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <57114.69.48.112.156.1172869231.squirrel@email.polands.org> Cc: Subject: Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:52:03 -0000 On 02/03/07, Doug Poland wrote: > On Fri, March 2, 2007 13:24, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? > > > I did :) > > > Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in > > first of month numbers, so its still growing ... > > > The numbers are still so low that I question if the project's goal > will be realized. Is it too early to extrapolate what the "real" > numbers may be? i.e., if we've got 5000 FreeBSD hosts, and we know > about 1 in 50 register, then there are probably 250,000 hosts in the > wild? > Based on a bit of trolling about, netcraft's most recent survey (that I could find) including operating systems numbers, which is March 2001 (surveys after that do not seem to have any sort of detailed OS counts), gives the BSDs as a whole at 6.3%, which is about 1.8 million sites running on one of the BSDs. Further futzing leads to http://leb.net/hzo/ioscount/data/r.9904.txt which shows as of April of 1999 15% of hosts being BSDs of some sort. The only queried about 1.7million hosts, though, and hosts are not sites or domain names. If I were an environemntal science major, I would conclude that BSDs as a whole are losing 4.3% of the aggregate per year, and currently have -19.5% of the web. Further more, by the year 2156 (when Mola Ram is due to rip the still beating heart from tEh interwob) the BSD family, including such holdouts as BSDi, FrogBSD, SkullCapBSD, and whatever fork of NetBSD happens to work on a nucul0r toaster of the year 2156 will be so widely deinstalled that you will need to write almost 2 billion new distros a month just to keep up with how many are being moved to iis. Also, there won't be any oil and your kids's kids will have suntans on their bone marrow. These numbers are important because they show that marketing works. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 23:31:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F8A16A402 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikegoe@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A6913C461 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikegoe@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=K96zXlCa7dp4Lmx/NAI1UeXRsVwyZ5C20e3OB7Hxsza11jYOWcgsJTEtEOKpDdHM; h=Received:Message-ID:Disposition-Notification-To:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [72.198.222.177] (helo=[192.168.0.131]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1HNGx2-0008FX-CO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:14:12 -0500 Message-ID: <45E8AFC6.4010207@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:14:14 -0600 From: "Michael G." User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 6aea8b7d5a0621f6d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc9b3ad7a13e445e62c08633c8dd734ba8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 72.198.222.177 Subject: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:31:46 -0000 OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just read). I have the following in fstab: /dev/asd42 /mydos msdosfs rw 0 0 I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? Thanks! M.G. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 23:37:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4047016A404 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145C713C471 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l22NYthY092648; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:34:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l22NYtpe092647; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:34:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:34:55 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Michael G." Message-ID: <20070302233455.GA92618@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <45E8AFC6.4010207@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E8AFC6.4010207@earthlink.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:37:37 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: > OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm > sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I > can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just > read). I have the following in fstab: > > /dev/asd42 /mydos msdosfs rw 0 0 > > I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that > since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried > it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? ////jerry > > Thanks! > > M.G. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 00:04:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6397316A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phbrown@charter.net) Received: from mtao01.charter.net (mtao01.charter.net [209.225.8.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148E213C4A3 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phbrown@charter.net) Received: from aa07.charter.net ([10.20.200.159]) by mtao05.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070302233931.YBBG1293.mtao05.charter.net@aa07.charter.net> for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:39:31 -0500 Received: from brownhouse ([66.215.116.90]) by aa07.charter.net with SMTP id <20070302233930.RJRH1413.aa07.charter.net@brownhouse> for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:39:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c75d24$06214d00$5a74d742@brownhouse> From: "Parker Brown" To: "FreeBSD" Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:39:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Chzlrs: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: COPYING DATA TO NTFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:04:27 -0000 Using the FreeBSD booter to manage both Windoz XP and FreeBSD 6.1 on the = same SCSI drive. Under FreeBSD I've got XP mounted, and I've been able = to examine the XP directories, but when I try to copy data or the = contents of directories from FreeBSD to XP. Using cp -R format, = nothing copies, and I get error messages that the target files don't = exist.=20 Is FreeBSD not capable of copying to NTFS? Please help! Parker Brown From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 00:16:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF49F16A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walkingshadow@grummel.net) Received: from mail1.bytemine.net (mat.bytemine.net [193.41.144.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C7013C471 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walkingshadow@grummel.net) Received: from 4be54-4-82-234-154-189.fbx.proxad.net ([82.234.154.189]:11313 helo=mailsvr.my.domain) by mail1.bytemine.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HNHvI-0007NI-Ob for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:16:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.11]) by mailsvr.my.domain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99581456E0 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:17:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:16:22 +0100 From: Jona Joachim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070303011622.798e0dad@localhost> In-Reply-To: <000f01c75d24$06214d00$5a74d742@brownhouse> References: <000f01c75d24$06214d00$5a74d742@brownhouse> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: &>dujC`JZV!}?Y^1"%N{x!f+rW}; PX\_Cg[!|MA~tn3ebIKM|~p=,,U~YJt,Exd`Spk.1Ln zg, Q]0=:!/LTs-eg.Fz, @giLyD'D=s, L\-AJyZ8tcV`kPifedMA@rhoEikoo~K%@iDLNq2?aHZjIt) GqBY7o#9+8j/uuXDVG3`XFEH_4$T%._*%;|vIaP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: COPYING DATA TO NTFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:16:32 -0000 On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:39:30 -0800 "Parker Brown" wrote: > Using the FreeBSD booter to manage both Windoz XP and FreeBSD 6.1 on > the same SCSI drive. Under FreeBSD I've got XP mounted, and I've > been able to examine the XP directories, but when I try to copy data > or the contents of directories from FreeBSD to XP. Using cp -R > format, nothing copies, and I get error messages that the target > files don't exist. > > Is FreeBSD not capable of copying to NTFS? No. Or at least writing support is very experimental and might break your NTFS partition. However there is ntfs-3g in the ports (sysutils/fusefs-ntfs). This driver has read/write support. I've never used it so I can't tell you more. More info: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ Regards, Jona -- Hi, I'm a .signature virus! Copy me to your .signature file and help me propagate, thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 00:25:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724C016A406 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikegoe@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3272413C46B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikegoe@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=GcVwXivXbAs20rVRfgXeT9zIqqLl9oC99b6tINfrDSxHCsHFZNGmVO8QrGtSO/nz; h=Received:Message-ID:Disposition-Notification-To:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [72.198.222.177] (helo=[192.168.0.131]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1HNI3g-00044l-5P; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:25:08 -0500 Message-ID: <45E8C066.4080207@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:25:10 -0600 From: "Michael G." User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <45E8AFC6.4010207@earthlink.net> <20070302233455.GA92618@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070302233455.GA92618@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-ELNK-Trace: 6aea8b7d5a0621f6d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcb6232612adf097c7a7c968ec6a92c10b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 72.198.222.177 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:25:11 -0000 Jerry, Owner of /mydos is root and Group is wheel. User has rwx while Group and Other only have r-x M.G. Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: > > >> OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm >> sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I >> can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just >> read). I have the following in fstab: >> >> /dev/asd42 /mydos msdosfs rw 0 0 >> >> I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that >> since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried >> it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? >> > > What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? > > ////jerry > > >> Thanks! >> >> M.G. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 00:30:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC68816A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B93E13C481 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l230UsNj016684; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:30:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:30:50 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: "Michael G." In-Reply-To: <45E8C066.4080207@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20070302192743.T12679@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <45E8AFC6.4010207@earthlink.net> <20070302233455.GA92618@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45E8C066.4080207@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:30:56 -0000 On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Michael G. wrote: > Owner of /mydos is root and Group is wheel. User has rwx while Group > and Other only have r-x Well, there it is. I think users who want to write to this filesystem need to have write permission on the mountpoint. How about creating a group, perhaps "users", of which all users are members, then chown root:users /mydos, then chmod 775 /mydos > Jerry McAllister wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: >> >>> OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm >>> sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem >>> is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can >>> just read). I have the following in fstab: >>> >>> /dev/asd42 /mydos msdosfs rw 0 0 >>> >>> I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand >>> that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect >>> either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. >>> Any help? >> >> What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 00:35:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D0516A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A82013C4A5 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l230WhSS092859; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:32:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l230WhPi092858; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:32:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:32:43 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Chris Hill Message-ID: <20070303003243.GA92829@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <45E8AFC6.4010207@earthlink.net> <20070302233455.GA92618@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45E8C066.4080207@earthlink.net> <20070302192743.T12679@tripel.monochrome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070302192743.T12679@tripel.monochrome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "Michael G." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:35:25 -0000 On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 07:30:50PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Michael G. wrote: > > >Owner of /mydos is root and Group is wheel. User has rwx while Group > >and Other only have r-x > > Well, there it is. I think users who want to write to this filesystem > need to have write permission on the mountpoint. How about creating a > group, perhaps "users", of which all users are members, then chown > root:users /mydos, then chmod 775 /mydos That would be my thinking. Maybe make a mydos group and only put users in that you want to be able to r/w the mydos slice instead of everybody and then chown it to root:mydos would seem 'safer' if there are a bunch of users on the machine. ////jerry > > >Jerry McAllister wrote: > >>On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: > >> > >>>OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm > >>>sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem > >>>is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can > >>>just read). I have the following in fstab: > >>> > >>>/dev/asd42 /mydos msdosfs rw 0 0 > >>> > >>>I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand > >>>that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect > >>>either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. > >>>Any help? > >> > >>What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 00:38:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE50116A403 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd.mailinglisten@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6801E13C428 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 00:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd.mailinglisten@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so790133ugh for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:38:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ClMso0fKoY+9wp++wLDOTLxPVLmzgFyxXZ0FV8p0KX4KEyVEIHT+/PmQNvlEM7Su/3u6dmThPITOzYo7UFiJ1SUlT61OkTWjy7lbDE4erqukkmcdYA0DyJsa/0QmnLIzIzTUUM6XhCHXIO+DypI5QstiwfKY49hg/nIXMyH0ank= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cjCkHhyc56DEr4N21yeyZn/+gvhtGYMdxrPqwaUyJYH4gZudiI4gi1H1sGIh/GwvWt2zr56+KWozLXIM6tfTv/SFf6tSxESrUT/CRO/fYPCud+TiqYlugikMBp5JJD5Jjbosct7AVd6N7IaFUzksRWDEvbp27jBMcpHGWScZP0I= Received: by 10.66.216.20 with SMTP id o20mr4005148ugg.1172880805871; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ( [88.73.55.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e9sm14553447muf.2007.03.02.16.13.24; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:13:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E8BDA1.5080302@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:13:21 +0100 From: Marco Hafke User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <000f01c75d24$06214d00$5a74d742@brownhouse> In-Reply-To: <000f01c75d24$06214d00$5a74d742@brownhouse> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: COPYING DATA TO NTFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:38:32 -0000 Did you read the manpage of mount_ntfs? Have a look to the writing section: "There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte characters." Writing on NTFS with FreeBSd is a bad idea. You should switch to FAT if you need to exchange files between this to systems. Greets Marco Parker Brown schrieb: > Using the FreeBSD booter to manage both Windoz XP and FreeBSD 6.1 on the same SCSI drive. Under FreeBSD I've got XP mounted, and I've been able to examine the XP directories, but when I try to copy data or the contents of directories from FreeBSD to XP. Using cp -R format, nothing copies, and I get error messages that the target files don't exist. > > Is FreeBSD not capable of copying to NTFS? > > Please help! > > > Parker Brown > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 01:01:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0915116A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E1613C49D for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2311mSC099566; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:01:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Dan D Niles Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:02:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1172784439.14922.47.camel@jane.spg.more.net> In-Reply-To: <1172784439.14922.47.camel@jane.spg.more.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Port Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:01:50 -0000 On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:27:19 -0600, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: > >More Dell 2950 woes. > >I use serial ports to manage my FreeBSD machines remotely. I've never >had any problems until now. I've installed FreeBSD 6.2 on a Dell 2950. > >The install goes without problems over the serial port. After the >reboot, I get the typical: > >FreeBSD/i386 (test.host.net) (ttyd0) > >login: > >and I can log in just fine. If I disconnect and come back later >(sometimes), or if I hit return without entering a login name (always) >it starts spitting out junk like: > I get similar strange results as well on Server Works BIOS based machines. I usually talk to them through a pm25. For me, I have to make sure flow control is off on both ends (no software, no hardware). Also, login gets confused if you start with an enter for some reason. I can generally recover from this seemingly hung state with a bunch of CTRL+d's. Not sure if it will help you, but the symptons are somewhat like what I see. Whats odd is that it all works just fine from the loader prompt and if I boot into single user mode. But soon as getty/login take over, its very picky. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 01:14:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053D416A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C007E13C428 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=34128 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HNIUE-0000Yu-VC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:52:34 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.221.74]:53257 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HNIUC-0001hn-8N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:52:32 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:52:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> In-Reply-To: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703030152.27232.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:14:24 -0000 If you have a (Free)BSD mindset and like your rc.conf but don't mind typing "pacman" instead of pkg_* or portupgrade -P * and you don't mind using something called ABS for src packages, which is like ports, only with a stage install before live-system install, then you may just like ArchLinux. I tried many but besides Debian, Arch is the only one I really enjoyed toying with. Haven't used Arch on serious production system, but it appears that other people do. Gentoo is nice (and keeps you busy/entertained) until it blows up on you. Just my 0.02 as a long time FreeBSD user. The linux I used most was Debian but that was long ago before I landed at BSD. Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 01:47:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB5716A404 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D661A13C46B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 84843 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2007 01:47:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=cWRwsoAETh974VVZ27QYXd1URrlhes1WP/ttobAvOk55oz2jTGjTrPM88C8Vy0fIrblKeVOFE3uP2wtWK9v6YbVt3mHSIt5jBzAGEo+oHHPNyAboRT0vTLBghLFpAnohTLQ9teOuigm8HxZTfWtFt5y6mmkQcR59J7ryROfhBiE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 01:47:30 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yAAOndkVM1modV2ecKhSALOW8VbWRnw06rDxPo3kpOgjBs0tSLaSwMFh6MvjwphJH5f7KxAQ6reM84eRAjk8AA2z66h3NLqp6t5M2RSe91ytXZX.UsSLQYSnkibH2maYRQB3Skp8Nkb.bQHpddDV6GTJ5w-- In-Reply-To: <45E7C64F.1050005@u.washington.edu> References: <88136d73789a204a841fd1116270b165@prodigy.net> <45E7A248.30204@u.washington.edu> <4b460b677ea7edc4bdb760826b8f4047@prodigy.net> <45E7C64F.1050005@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <60c47d75583b116c8b75bfcbf6417479@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: jekillen Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:47:12 -0800 To: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:47:31 -0000 On Mar 1, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > jekillen wrote: >> On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>> jekillen wrote: >>>> Hello; >>>> I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard. >>>> It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces. >>>> I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of >>>> v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and >>>> instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was >>>> to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would=20 >>>> have >>>> it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat >>>> dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not >>>> fit in the slot for the obstruction. >>>> So, my question is simple: >>>> Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot >>>> in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work? >>>> By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using >>>> this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address >>>> assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also. >>>> I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh >>>> and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network. >>>> Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet.... >>>> Jeff K >>> >>> Maybe. Read this document:=20 >>> . >>> -Garrett >>> >> Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message=20= >> and then >> decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I=20 >> came up >> with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look=20 >> back at the >> specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards=20= >> and there >> it was, pretty plain. There is still a problem. One of the cards is=20= >> initializing and >> the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the=20 >> punch line >> is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in=20= >> ifconfig. >> I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it=20= >> appears >> that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is=20 >> listed as supported >> by the em driver, but Intel=AE 82572EI or Intel=AE 82572GI Gigabit=20 >> Controller is not >> listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent. >> thanks for the response. >> Jeff K > > There's always -current or an RMA. Weird though... I didn't think that=20= > the slot size was large enough though for a PCIx card slot.=20 > Interesting... There is more, I had one card in the secondary x16 slot and one card=20 in the usable x1 slot. I noticed that in the above situation, the fwe=20 inteface was still configured. I took the card from the secondary x16 slot and put it in the primary=20 x16 slot, Booted up and the em0 interface came up. I shut down the fwe=20= interface and was able to ping the em0 interface. I moved the card from the=20 usable x1 slot and moved it to the secondary x16 slot. Now both cards=20 show up as up and running but I cannot ping the em1 interface. I went into=20 rc.conf and took out the fwe configuration line. It still shows up in=20 ifconfig listed between em0 and em1. I am suspecting that this interface is somehow=20 interfering with the em1 interface. So progress is happening but I am=20 weary of the sleuthing I have to do to get things working. At least I do have=20= one enet connection to the machine, now. Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 01:54:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C988C16A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCB213C478 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l231q7PI093128; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:52:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l231q7lq093127; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:52:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:52:07 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Marco Hafke Message-ID: <20070303015207.GA93108@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <000f01c75d24$06214d00$5a74d742@brownhouse> <45E8BDA1.5080302@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E8BDA1.5080302@googlemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: COPYING DATA TO NTFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:54:50 -0000 On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 01:13:21AM +0100, Marco Hafke wrote: > Did you read the manpage of mount_ntfs? Have a look to the writing section: > > "There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident > and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files > are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte > characters." > > Writing on NTFS with FreeBSd is a bad idea. You should switch to FAT if > you need to exchange files between this to systems. Yes. That seems to be the current status. What I do on my dual boot is make an extra slice that if FAT32 that I can use to write back and forth between the FreeBSD and MSwin system. So, I end up using up three slices for a dual boot NTFS, FAT32 and FreeBSD. The FAT32 doesn't have to be terribly large, a couple of GBytes does it for me. ////jerry > > Greets > Marco > > > Parker Brown schrieb: > >Using the FreeBSD booter to manage both Windoz XP and FreeBSD 6.1 on the > >same SCSI drive. Under FreeBSD I've got XP mounted, and I've been able to > >examine the XP directories, but when I try to copy data or the contents of > >directories from FreeBSD to XP. Using cp -R format, nothing copies, > >and I get error messages that the target files don't exist. > >Is FreeBSD not capable of copying to NTFS? > > > >Please help! > > > > > >Parker Brown > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 02:07:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8108016A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikegoe@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418B513C471 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikegoe@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ZuLDqY/jkxGp1H4gfvlZXaZHx1zwD1yL92FFmmsbeWO1xgZ7h5ps53g0FF9ejeP3; h=Received:Message-ID:Disposition-Notification-To:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [72.198.222.177] (helo=[192.168.0.131]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1HNJep-0001lD-2j; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:07:35 -0500 Message-ID: <45E8D869.8070007@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:07:37 -0600 From: "Michael G." User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Hill References: <45E8AFC6.4010207@earthlink.net> <20070302233455.GA92618@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45E8C066.4080207@earthlink.net> <20070302192743.T12679@tripel.monochrome.org> In-Reply-To: <20070302192743.T12679@tripel.monochrome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 6aea8b7d5a0621f6d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc689bb74f788e35f06accb965c497606f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 72.198.222.177 Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:07:36 -0000 Chris, A mod of your suggestion did the trick. I was unable to finally "chown Michael /mydos" and then change permissions using chmod. Seems pretty simple but kinda strange that as root I could not change the permissions. Thanks to you and Jerry for all the help! Michael G. Chris Hill wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Michael G. wrote: > >> Owner of /mydos is root and Group is wheel. User has rwx while Group >> and Other only have r-x > > Well, there it is. I think users who want to write to this filesystem > need to have write permission on the mountpoint. How about creating a > group, perhaps "users", of which all users are members, then chown > root:users /mydos, then chmod 775 /mydos > >> Jerry McAllister wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: >>> >>>> OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm >>>> sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem >>>> is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can >>>> just read). I have the following in fstab: >>>> >>>> /dev/asd42 /mydos msdosfs rw 0 0 >>>> >>>> I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand >>>> that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect >>>> either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any >>>> help? >>> >>> What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 02:33:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A59216A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0744513C481 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1429180nfc for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:33:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rXHWSiEeJsu0jMFFVOB5uLXmk61aLOuuACrfGedh+ZzNr8420Plx+ncdT7t+8tBY/ud6atWZEtrT44aRPd4gwcTdmekjZpx40srPEFQoTAXgNsGj4QzJhY+FmQ57jU9IyvIpEXeJjhY5GopQNftyfWtnSmtEk7JMzwJblniAkMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=D3Zq6QImeGYXoAd+CCv4ET06/dvdRSjxuHFzsMGwcE2nhM9JS2yQ9WROxgDgEve43o2vWA2xeW13kTsCIybDntl4yl2ko7s4xDSRDfT4Qr0n4vqR2YT4J/rao2gYmfO5ey9hsMBlvGN/VsHBxynh/8uqxjqYtEMqBBRm4Lokxrk= Received: by 10.82.167.5 with SMTP id p5mr1291885bue.1172889209572; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.191.16 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:33:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20703021833kfa8d0dxaa838b2bfc72f400@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:33:29 +0000 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: hauppauge PVR 150 problem loading modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:33:31 -0000 After being unable to get the WinTV-Radio work, I replaced it with a PVR-150. I followed the instructions here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2006-November/005351.html attempting to get the PVR 150 I just picked up working. However, after loading the modules as described in the output of the pvrxxx port, and the message listed, no new devices showed up. I checked /var/log/messages and go this: sjss@elrond 21:28:36 (0) ~ > cat /var/log/messages | grep cxm Mar 2 20:47:11 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/local/bin/emacs work/modules/cxm/cxm/fbsd-compat.c Mar 2 20:49:05 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/local/bin/emacs work/modules/cxm/cxm/fbsd-compat.c Mar 2 21:27:50 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/home/sjss ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kldload cxm_iic Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/home/sjss ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kldload cxm Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: mem 0xc0000000-0xc3ffffff irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci5 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm_iic0: on cxm0 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: iicbb0: on cxm_iic0 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: unknown tuner code 0x67 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: could not initialize tuner Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm_iic0: detached Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: device_attach: cxm0 attach returned 6 So it's safe to say I have an unknown tuner on this card, what would my next step from here be? Thank you, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 02:34:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60A016A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EC413C461 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1429348nfc for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:34:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fz9ImSFYIpeq+h2AUUN5ntWRfYZNxTZhTU9LmRDa+DQjj0VK18Clfgb6Mmzq8Cx43AgGA6PUudePEYuTQXg9GbKGQthiN7aH0eV1yYFilYchAKXi/bzBOUD2FV8JfGhJe+Bl8+XIIMGg7OfBIbHWuGuKRiOxLj5/SbXvWjO2Mmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZUgdYE0oJ6Ak8dEJwt9KJyyAlOfZGorWp8ufMrrtos+Bsi/M7FkPiOcXdzWlC/hnZZP1E1bR5JJWSL0+wNsG0d7k1blp5+XPW5nFqnMisJgfniynGCQKZH7UYg8LF5dg5exBonuqIuLWmGyjHU1xitYCB25yYJk/lgonTUVUBkA= Received: by 10.82.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr1299967buf.1172889265118; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.191.16 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:34:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20703021834u131ae0e8i6f73e29d013e04d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:34:24 +0000 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20703021833kfa8d0dxaa838b2bfc72f400@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20703021833kfa8d0dxaa838b2bfc72f400@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: hauppauge PVR 150 problem loading modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:34:26 -0000 I appologize -questions, disregard this, it was supposed to go to multimedia. On 3/3/07, Jim Stapleton wrote: > After being unable to get the WinTV-Radio work, I replaced it with a > PVR-150. I followed the instructions here: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2006-November/005351.html > > attempting to get the PVR 150 I just picked up working. However, after > loading the modules as described in the output of the pvrxxx port, and > the message listed, no new devices showed up. I checked > /var/log/messages and go this: > > sjss@elrond 21:28:36 (0) ~ > cat /var/log/messages | grep cxm > Mar 2 20:47:11 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; > PWD=/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx ; USER=root ; > COMMAND=/usr/local/bin/emacs work/modules/cxm/cxm/fbsd-compat.c > Mar 2 20:49:05 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; > PWD=/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx ; USER=root ; > COMMAND=/usr/local/bin/emacs work/modules/cxm/cxm/fbsd-compat.c > Mar 2 21:27:50 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/home/sjss ; > USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kldload cxm_iic > Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/home/sjss ; > USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kldload cxm > Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: mem > 0xc0000000-0xc3ffffff irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci5 > Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm_iic0: controller> on cxm0 > Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: iicbb0: on cxm_iic0 > Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: unknown tuner code 0x67 > Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: could not initialize tuner > Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm_iic0: detached > Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: device_attach: cxm0 attach returned 6 > > > So it's safe to say I have an unknown tuner on this card, what would > my next step from here be? > > Thank you, > -Jim Stapleton > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 03:04:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ACB16A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53414.mail.yahoo.com (web53414.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B90D13C442 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 35425 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2007 03:04:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=OA/E7Vvhdvcwfb/Ir8+OwcJHSlM6bug2u2DoqHRRY0Tt05GqZkImjGjYZgfJExKzYIZL4Hbr60yK7pxqjDKI2xTO6gUWdaCBgkMoZ5jub1BgeoDrOJ+ScnQilBk9ObI4ly6nDojB92n647VR5a9n+epkj19eb6/l72Z+ackPGsw=; X-YMail-OSG: nNsthHEVM1nOYb9uHQe03TMokEZ8GgZAxhthXx6dK.5j8eePldYqGqv7xP8taOYQMdY9VEuHEVVWitbkem.zw4FununamPkLIA_lDdeKAS6O2qbs_jocWXR07IcOVAcfnl2x55sd0nU4CNtW.9VfN87DWg-- Received: from [66.108.252.99] by web53414.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:04:33 PST Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <770699.33265.qm@web53414.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Firefox only runs as root--help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:04:34 -0000 This is a resend of something i sent to the freebsd-gnome list a few days ago, but there wer no answers and i think its a real problem, so i hope no one minds. I have a new install of FreeBSD 6.2, and installed Gnome 2.16 and other things, including Firefox 2.0, from Ports. Firefox only runs as root. Every time. I Googled and saw that in an early version there was a problem that it had to be run the _first_ time as root but after that it was OK, but thats not the problem here--it ONLY runs as root all the time. If I type "firefox" on the command line it just immediately returns to the command line, no error messages of any sort, nothing in /var/log/messages. When run as root it seems to be fine. The binary has execute permissions for everyone. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 03:14:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE5C16A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D4F13C474 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.191]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8946F85C8C6; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:51:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38006-06; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:51:47 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2625D85C8DA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:46:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524EE5F799; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:46:52 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:46:51 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Doug Poland Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <57114.69.48.112.156.1172869231.squirrel@email.polands.org> References: <57114.69.48.112.156.1172869231.squirrel@email.polands.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.7 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:14:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Depends if you are looking for 'fast and easy' numbers. or long term ones ... the project goal is long term numbers ... The problem is that right now, everything is "word of mouth", except in the case of PC-BSD, and, I believe, DragonflyBSD ... someone, at one point, had suggested adding a prompt to sysinstall asking if ppl wanted to participate, and the response I heard was that someone basically needed to submit a patch ... anyone here know enough about sysinstall to do so? Not to make it an 'opt-out' sort of thing, but opt-in with some sort of visibility other then my posting these stats once a month .... - --On Friday, March 02, 2007 15:00:31 -0600 Doug Poland wrote: > On Fri, March 2, 2007 13:24, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? >> > I did :) > >> Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in >> first of month numbers, so its still growing ... >> > The numbers are still so low that I question if the project's goal > will be realized. Is it too early to extrapolate what the "real" > numbers may be? i.e., if we've got 5000 FreeBSD hosts, and we know > about 1 in 50 register, then there are probably 250,000 hosts in the > wild? > > > -- > Regards, > Doug > - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF6OGc4QvfyHIvDvMRAuHHAJ9rIA5EK/dhg7QdylEcJH7lpARBUwCZATaP VDg2BaHcd1UdM03/W7/6jH0= =QLgR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 03:41:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7AC16A404 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53401.mail.yahoo.com (web53401.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E1D913C4B5 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 17423 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2007 03:41:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=oHXMLc/yN+2Nu0SF6G366FNViSQEKQj6sghpPzeHGO+OHfjYgwfTo2uW/SNz0d0RPZCa9fDjbfzMVxhstfQKC4SdPQ8sHKx2L0KlPwn7qyxHU7zpFNhMQq7UBkRiHE8D7zSC94JwhkGj2aQrwJFQCTwuydLF/uSEeJqnB0uG1uQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 34jnbo4VM1njTEUWe.4zHZj4yuzoCFj_0OzArGkeFennqtsvF6pS8CD73D7Socg_gUDVcm5p4Ue_u28tAXyIfniagvHTdEI3SH.MhVL33kis67Ef0qgK5qKT7XN.GIAM6vNRV.c.0e.It2T9iamACDOvvw-- Received: from [66.108.252.99] by web53401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:41:36 PST Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:41:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-277221599-1172893296=:16310" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <651631.16310.qm@web53401.mail.yahoo.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: Re: Firefox only runs as root--help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:41:37 -0000 --0-277221599-1172893296=:16310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit And i can't even spell "freebsd.org" right. Not my day. Jen --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-277221599-1172893296=:16310 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [66.108.252.99] by web53412.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:40:09 PST Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" Subject: Re: Firefox only runs as root--help! To: Jeremy Gransden Cc: freebsd-question@freebsg.org In-Reply-To: <87f7f4170703021932g25230557vb0a88c007581dd68@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1407129931-1172893209=:54305" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1320 --0-1407129931-1172893209=:54305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeremy Gransden wrote: On 3/2/07, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: This is a resend of something i sent to the freebsd-gnome list a few days ago, but there wer no answers and i think its a real problem, so i hope no one minds. I have a new install of FreeBSD 6.2, and installed Gnome 2.16 and other things, including Firefox 2.0, from Ports. Firefox only runs as root. Every time. I Googled and saw that in an early version there was a problem that it had to be run the _first_ time as root but after that it was OK, but thats not the problem here--it ONLY runs as root all the time. If I type "firefox" on the command line it just immediately returns to the command line, no error messages of any sort, nothing in /var/log/messages. When run as root it seems to be fine. The binary has execute permissions for everyone. What do i need to be doing? Thanks! Jen Hi Jen, what are the permissions on .mozilla in your home directory. jeremy Oh, g#d... /me hangs head in shame and embarrassment. Thank you. So sorry to bother the list with this. I thought i had been clever to check the permissions on the binary :-( Thank you Jeremy! Jen --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. --0-1407129931-1172893209=:54305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jeremy Gransden wrote: On 3/2/07, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum <[1]bg271828@yahoo.com> wrote: This is a resend of something i sent to the freebsd-gnome list a few days ago, but there wer no answers and i think its a real problem, so i hope no one minds. I have a new install of FreeBSD 6.2, and installed Gnome 2.16 and other things, including Firefox 2.0, from Ports. Firefox only runs as root. Every time. I Googled and saw that in an early version there was a problem that it had to be run the _first_ time as root but after that it was OK, but thats not the problem here--it ONLY runs as root all the time. If I type "firefox" on the command line it just immediately returns to the command line, no error messages of any sort, nothing in /var/log/messages. When run as root it seems to be fine. The binary has execute permissions for everyone. What do i need to be doing? Thanks! Jen Hi Jen, what are the permissions on .mozilla in your home directory. jeremy Oh, g#d... /me hangs head in shame and embarrassment. Thank you. So sorry to bother the list with this. I thought i had been clever to check the permissions on the binary :-( Thank you Jeremy! Jen _________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get [2]new email alerts with the free [3]Yahoo! Toolbar. References 1. mailto:bg271828@yahoo.com 2. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ 3. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ --0-1407129931-1172893209=:54305-- --0-277221599-1172893296=:16310-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 04:22:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D2A16A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 04:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601D413C46B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 04:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1445510nfc for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:22:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bzH5D+Hq/XDjVdJAZHbH0PMWTukYQY+Rq8LhMoYVjsVXzG9MEUJRBYVbv61zZ3tqwsF7X2tnM5HWwX0D349nMIbgicv8e+TDbuND+g4Q3+0OP3obRhAscb6u636iOZrh0jDZG9BYXnj7LZ2+S1nWnAsLEmEWhR9sXYzBAyEgUCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IETKfdgfBkqRmY7po9NH2lAt7iOylPEmeKzPg0vCmXN9ujyBVC9zgQ+3wm2J590Am0tNEAV+yjt4yfFLc3/ezsrOjX/KP9K/3WJKC7ry9jnwQHN7QG0zSKN5K8MNrISlOEQxTRbEUvD+JrRZoL8OqP3RTp2xYFSD7UlB0MyIKbw= Received: by 10.78.200.3 with SMTP id x3mr339260huf.1172895777292; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.17.18 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:22:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:22:57 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "illoai@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X11 library question.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 04:22:58 -0000 My output to your commands is identical to yours in that it was found, and is the same open-motif version. :( :( On 3/2/07, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > On 01/03/07, Jeff Mohler wrote: > > The error: > > > > error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared > object > > file: No such file or directory > > > > > > Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the > right > > answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. > > Indeed, > % find /usr/X11R6/ -type f -iname "*libxm*" > . . . > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 > . . . > % grep -r libXm /var/db/pkg/ > . . . > /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.a > /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so > /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so.3 > . . . > % ldconfig -r | grep libXm > . . . > 127:-lXm.3 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 > . . . > > You may need to run ldconfig -R (or ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib > if /usr/X11R6/lib somehow did not get in the hints file). > > Alternatively, you may have an older version of open-motif, > which means you need to upgrade it. > > -- > -- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 04:24:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916EB16A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 04:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282F513C47E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 04:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1445689nfc for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:24:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ljmImuzOBEt6AojPoIbtLamosCobUF8mGPgSuovPTmO+cnbIDGyUuhNqlECHDQHmNdpADMvajCA45JcJ4NAJC00FBFu43UQnDl1+mrZHXu7bwUjumWXRdb7kT96AwkGnwUpCYFY4RKX2X7NxCNO6S3Cbc8oyKvv08L11h+1Wld8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NUMVGrVCEOuAF1zYrESPV4hFyoGdCSHvVotPW8FdOyWi18/1/GVJFXi3w+NgAOqeXJR7z/2IGwY4NnL5snJRXaJzturV35hbJfefBrqTPfJUwFjtzZ5B5+OqzEt5jmxm5ntuaqMHCMQ9jLAUtlRZmToaecU6aXVqVGI/nxVVkQw= Received: by 10.78.172.20 with SMTP id u20mr343800hue.1172895863902; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.17.18 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:24:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:24:23 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "illoai@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X11 library question.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 04:24:25 -0000 For kicks I copied to to /usr/lib. NEW error.. error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libXm.so.3: ELF file OS ABI invalid On 3/2/07, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > On 01/03/07, Jeff Mohler wrote: > > The error: > > > > error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared > object > > file: No such file or directory > > > > > > Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the > right > > answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. > > Indeed, > % find /usr/X11R6/ -type f -iname "*libxm*" > . . . > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 > . . . > % grep -r libXm /var/db/pkg/ > . . . > /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.a > /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so > /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so.3 > . . . > % ldconfig -r | grep libXm > . . . > 127:-lXm.3 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 > . . . > > You may need to run ldconfig -R (or ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib > if /usr/X11R6/lib somehow did not get in the hints file). > > Alternatively, you may have an older version of open-motif, > which means you need to upgrade it. > > -- > -- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 04:35:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963D816A408 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 04:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: from web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FC4013C4A7 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 04:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 84607 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2007 04:35:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NYUOcG2gcRc/unnFkfP0iHb5lLLi86ToEpLwr8t48VSSTnARGbVaaeLlY/nTH1bsxhnCqz7kFrgfXZCMxfcJNFfSanSccqjHW3sJ25VldeSa0igSeE2YvENii2dVZ+Wxcs7M0XaNYgtWDSUMDPF2kHrIsO0nRt+9Ru9P7T6R4t8=; X-YMail-OSG: fml2ta4VM1mkNqK3m6q08hJnU.Zpd6xBN0VcgSSZ41Pbn.Uk3u4E5a7xa8wOyMcOlHRf8y9J28v_u8meo3.xnlgT1aRkcz4pOOTW2JnsT0victF7to6rPwWu33IrZuFL Received: from [68.164.228.157] by web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:35:14 PST Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:35:14 -0800 (PST) From: Paulette McGee To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <770699.33265.qm@web53414.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <684714.83355.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Firefox only runs as root--help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 04:35:15 -0000 --- "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" wrote: > This is a resend of something i sent to the > freebsd-gnome list a few days > ago, but there wer no answers and i think its a real > problem, so i hope > no one minds. > > I have a new install of FreeBSD 6.2, and installed > Gnome 2.16 and other things, including Firefox 2.0, > from Ports. > > Firefox only runs as root. Every time. I Googled and > saw that in an early > version there was a problem that it had to be run > the _first_ time as root > but after that it was OK, but thats not the problem > here--it ONLY runs as > root all the time. If I type "firefox" on the > command line it > just immediately returns to the command line, no > error messages > of any sort, nothing in /var/log/messages. > > When run as root it seems to be fine. The binary has > execute > permissions for everyone. > > What do i need to be doing? > > Thanks! > > Jen > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel > sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What happens if you type "firefox" on the command line as a normal user? Paulette McGee ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 05:51:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EF116A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 05:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@inthehouseshow.com) Received: from k2smtpout04-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout04-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FAE213C49D for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 05:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@inthehouseshow.com) Received: (qmail 23066 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2007 05:24:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO URGhost.prod.phx1.secureserver.net) (216.69.163.120) by k2smtpout04-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.173) with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2007 05:24:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 30080 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 22:24:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 22:24:38 -0700 Received: from 232.225.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com (232.225.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com [70.121.225.232]) by webmail.inthehouseshow.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:24:37 -0700 Message-ID: <20070302222437.eidusqm1dog0c8s0@webmail.inthehouseshow.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:24:37 -0700 From: josh@inthehouseshow.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Cc: Subject: "Digital Nation" Radio Show X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:51:18 -0000 My name is Josh Smith, I am the producer for the "Digital Nation," radio show, based out of Orlando, Fl. "Digital Nation," is about everything electronic and I would like to know some things about FreeBSD. Does a drive need to be partitioned to run it? Can it run on a partitioned drive, while the other portion runs Windows or Mac OSX? How secure is it? What kind of computer will ideally run it? Ups and downs? Thank you, Josh Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 07:14:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B1E16A403; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from mailout1.pacific.net.au (mailout1-3.pacific.net.au [61.8.2.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248FD13C467; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (mailproxy1.pacific.net.au [61.8.2.162]) by mailout1.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792D33280D8; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:14:23 +1100 (EST) Received: from katana.zip.com.au (katana.zip.com.au [61.8.7.246]) by mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4350F8C09; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:14:22 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:14:15 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@delplex.bde.org To: Brooks Davis In-Reply-To: <20070302152832.GA79187@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Message-ID: <20070303174120.F13432@delplex.bde.org> References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20070302152832.GA79187@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:14:25 -0000 On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Brooks Davis wrote: > Also, you should time the actual copy and do the math to verify that > vmstat is actually producing valid results. It's possible there's a bug > in vmstat or the underlying statistics it uses. There is certainly a bug in the underlying statistics. For ATA disks, at least with the ata driver, the maximum transfer size in DMA mode is 64K, so any reports of a block size of 128K for SATA disks are wrong. The block size of 128K reported by vmstat is actually a virtual size. For most or types of disks, the GEOM layer virtualizes the physical maximum size MAXPHYS = 128K so that layers above GEOM including statistics gathering and file systems cannot see the physical size. For writing large files, this normally confuses ffs and vfs clustering into producing contiguous writes of 128K. This is good for efficiency, but it is not what the hardware sees or what you want for statistics. The contiguous writes of 128K get split up into 2 sequential writes of 64K. However, 64K is more than large enough for efficiency, so the bug in the underlying statistics doesn't matter, at least if vmstat reports only 128K blocks. If it reported 64K-blocks then you would have to worry about the contiguous block sizes being a mixture of 128K and much smaller blocks, with the much smaller blocks (actually, more the seeks across gaps to get to the smaller blocks) being very inefficient. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 07:28:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DB716A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: from web35209.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35209.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B938313C47E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from satimis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 61825 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2007 07:28:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RbMfoq0R7ZPVL1ZaPGUTRpDnFhOslQ0Hc4tem32Az42+R/zp95ZgR5cHdsMKNBP56gF4f15FQBBGOhrWShiy7pTOgJpklyYtMJvJmdmgIGbpcUfvkM4MZiJvGLvQsXDIMnd6AhnkEGHfm77+Y1od1N4gTnIyFGsIWfeNScJjkEg=; X-YMail-OSG: .WQTbuEVM1naJKPuNLSzNFXJgtCc3iq0oF9An9SMMGQBudZMXzx4fG3lHWm9Pi9SCKyt8Unz7sLszRxLtRbvKnCC7VryTIGhl.hd_0_RMYqLII2aU0SK8EaAf3pUr2d5iWVqddV.KQoCGwo3nxsc_0f_Eg-- Received: from [220.232.213.178] by web35209.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:28:02 CST Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:28:02 +0800 (CST) From: Stephen Liu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <274680.61590.qm@web35209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Where can I get a nVidia driver for FBSD amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:28:03 -0000 Hi folks, FreeBSD 6.2-amd64 I have been searching around for nVidia drvier without result. X window can't work properly on this box. However I'm not alone. Please visit following sites http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545&page=15 and http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=82203 The problem existed since 11-28-04, needing a nVidia driver for amd64 FreeBSD. If you want to run amd64 FreeBSD please stay away with components running nVidia chipsets. Otherwise you will run into my situation as well as other folks on above sites. B.R. Stephen Liu Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 08:11:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826F916A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfitzgerald@pacific.net.au) Received: from pecan.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FC113C461 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfitzgerald@pacific.net.au) Received: from 28.101.233.220.exetel.com.au ([220.233.101.28] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by pecan.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HNPKb-0001W1-DG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:11:05 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <45E7D850.6000603@hier7.com> References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> <4f48d953253acaed08dfd775cea2cb3b@catholic.org> <45E7757C.4050305@hier7.com> <45E7D850.6000603@hier7.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Malcolm Fitzgerald Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:11:05 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:11:07 -0000 On 02/03/2007, at 6:54 PM, Chris Slothouber wrote: > make config will load the variables stored in /var/db/ports/* Oh. I'll look into that. From /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs/ I typed make config and it said that it wanted me to pass options to it. > > Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: >>>> What do I need to do to wipe the slate clean? >> On 02/03/2007, at 11:53 AM, Chris Slothouber wrote: >>> make config >> Yes. I don't know what arguments to pass to it. Where are the current >> arguments being stored, surely I can edit that file? >>> >>> Never you mind wrote: >>>> On 02/03/2007, at 2:58 AM, John Nielsen wrote: >>>>> On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: >>>>>> On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give >>>>>> it the >>>>>> details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp >>>>>> space as a drive on the desktop. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce >>>>>> desktop manager? >>>>> >>>>> I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow >>>>> you to mount >>>>> an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing >>>>> you'll have >>>>> to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a >>>>> shortcut to >>>>> your chosen mountpoint should suffice). >>>> I've just made an error during installation. At the dialog I >>>> selected BOTH c-ares and IPV6. >>>> That caused an error: >>>> curl-7.16.0_1 does not support both c-ares and IPv6 - disable one >>>> of them. >>>> OK. I thought I'd simply run "make install clean" again and at the >>>> dialog I would make my selection. However, I do not get to the >>>> dialog. My choices have been saved somewhere and are being re-used. >>>> I need to clean up from my first effort. What do I need to do to >>>> wipe the slate clean? >>>> malcolm >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> Malcolm Fitzgerald >> T: 0403 972 660 E: thats@notyourhomework.net >> FOR YOUR COMPUTER Customised software built to your specifications. >> Using Macs? Automate your workflow with AppleScript. FOR YOU Computer >> training, software installation + upgrades, computer setups. IN TIMES >> OF NEED Troubleshooting, maintenance + repairs. >> That's Not Your Homework >> ABN 91 398 224 929 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Malcolm Fitzgerald T: 0403 972 660 E: thats@notyourhomework.net FOR YOUR COMPUTER Customised software built to your specifications. Using Macs? Automate your workflow with AppleScript. FOR YOU Computer training, software installation + upgrades, computer setups. IN TIMES OF NEED Troubleshooting, maintenance + repairs. That's Not Your Homework ABN 91 398 224 929 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 08:18:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0704116A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FE313C467 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l23351jK028216 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 05:18:52 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.86.10.90] (authenticated as lenzi) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 08:18:51 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:18:50 -0300 Message-Id: <1172909930.68100.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: bsdstats X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:18:55 -0000 Hello all.... I setted up several bsd servers that are terminal servers running gnome 2.16.3.. the machines runs about 10 to 40 thin clients running FreeBSD. Question: Does the thin clients count as Freebsd servers in bsdstats??? if so. It will add about 400 servers in the list.... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 08:24:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116E816A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8C8013C428 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 85860 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2007 08:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.109.56.185?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.185 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 08:24:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: mxKWFQcVM1nWIH8fNoEKkV66hsSj7C25mmWmAPQGT8zPWrXiuyUPakkFWJKflgpvPg-- Message-ID: <45E930BE.6080508@hier7.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:24:30 -0500 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0fa18d202fd5dfa13608dc9e2c627941@catholic.org> <200703011058.28791.lists@jnielsen.net> <4f48d953253acaed08dfd775cea2cb3b@catholic.org> <45E7757C.4050305@hier7.com> <45E7D850.6000603@hier7.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mounting an FTP space ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:24:28 -0000 ftp/curl is where you're having issues, right? do a make config there first. Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: > > On 02/03/2007, at 6:54 PM, Chris Slothouber wrote: > >> make config will load the variables stored in /var/db/ports/* > > Oh. I'll look into that. > > From /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs/ I typed make config and it > said that it wanted me to pass options to it. > > > > >> >> Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: >>>>> What do I need to do to wipe the slate clean? >>> On 02/03/2007, at 11:53 AM, Chris Slothouber wrote: >>>> make config >>> Yes. I don't know what arguments to pass to it. Where are the current >>> arguments being stored, surely I can edit that file? >>>> >>>> Never you mind wrote: >>>>> On 02/03/2007, at 2:58 AM, John Nielsen wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote: >>>>>>> On my Mac from the Finder I can select "Connect to server", give >>>>>>> it the >>>>>>> details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the ftp >>>>>>> space as a drive on the desktop. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and xfce >>>>>>> desktop manager? >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow >>>>>> you to mount >>>>>> an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing >>>>>> you'll have >>>>>> to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a >>>>>> shortcut to >>>>>> your chosen mountpoint should suffice). >>>>> I've just made an error during installation. At the dialog I >>>>> selected BOTH c-ares and IPV6. >>>>> That caused an error: >>>>> curl-7.16.0_1 does not support both c-ares and IPv6 - disable one >>>>> of them. >>>>> OK. I thought I'd simply run "make install clean" again and at the >>>>> dialog I would make my selection. However, I do not get to the >>>>> dialog. My choices have been saved somewhere and are being re-used. >>>>> I need to clean up from my first effort. What do I need to do to >>>>> wipe the slate clean? >>>>> malcolm >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>> Malcolm Fitzgerald >>> T: 0403 972 660 E: thats@notyourhomework.net >>> FOR YOUR COMPUTER Customised software built to your specifications. >>> Using Macs? Automate your workflow with AppleScript. FOR YOU Computer >>> training, software installation + upgrades, computer setups. IN TIMES >>> OF NEED Troubleshooting, maintenance + repairs. >>> That's Not Your Homework >>> ABN 91 398 224 929 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > Malcolm Fitzgerald > > T: 0403 972 660 E: thats@notyourhomework.net > > FOR YOUR COMPUTER Customised software built to your specifications. > Using Macs? Automate your workflow with AppleScript. FOR YOU Computer > training, software installation + upgrades, computer setups. IN TIMES OF > NEED Troubleshooting, maintenance + repairs. > > > That's Not Your Homework > ABN 91 398 224 929 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 08:27:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEA716A403 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8346413C461 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Mar 2007 08:27:02 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18dbGJ9rTEdbIFQAzW3DgBltqwqDCq2DLqpCDU2OQ buEnmfqsVvdNNG Message-ID: <45E9318A.3090609@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:27:54 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio Lenzi References: <1172909930.68100.4.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1172909930.68100.4.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdstats X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:27:05 -0000 Sergio Lenzi wrote: > Question: Does the thin clients count as Freebsd servers in bsdstats??? If each client runs the bsdstats script and has its own hostname, yes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 09:06:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E225516A403 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob_27_preston@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from web25012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60D3E13C46B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob_27_preston@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 34544 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2007 09:06:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=mXM+1hpwQhpf44cojZflhC1dBe9BJVzOsUJCIDeLzhs8bQ7/VGtruOM/0RzTRy9XMfXv4V/UrsjjIe4RYQu7yd7qpFTAiQJdEZIr2J74xvfDPgDkeMHn/MU2kVLwrLGzRH+oOlLRUI44fYqBwW+wJPYHxA+NRrv3JBrvtefETu8=; X-YMail-OSG: rK_N9f0VM1nGB9njopKtCBLxnqsmcyCgaLEwTYbIxeusMncCbk2DR39qyJvPdCML88JHU2DJ4mpXHAEMp4qJoUgUbjq4JOOLADg21AI8m8z0c3XPVJ131sZGCkzFEuqvxdeC2L6GwDTxI2fC7asjqHs- Received: from [83.67.67.49] by web25012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:06:31 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:06:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Davison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <285897.32858.qm@web25012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Backup Script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:06:33 -0000 Im trying to write a small backup script which I have put in /etc/periodic/weekly. The script is as follows...... #!/bin/sh # #weekly backup of chosen files # if then tar -cf /dev/sa0 /var/ftp /home /etc /usr/local echo "backing up the disks" else echo "There was a problem" 1>&2 exit 1 fi echo "Finished at `/bin/date`." exit Now I have no experience at bash scripting as was wonderng if someone could give me some help with the if statement. Basically im trying to test to see if the machine knows that /dev/sa0 (my tape drive) is accessable. If it is then it continus to the backup, if not then it gives the error message and echos the date. Any help would be much appreciated. --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 09:56:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819DD16A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mplekos@physics.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.upatras.gr (nic.upatras.gr [150.140.129.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF1B313C441 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mplekos@physics.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 4447 invoked by uid 111); 3 Mar 2007 09:29:35 -0000 Received: from 150.140.159.71 by nic.upatras.gr (envelope-from , uid 103) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.83/706. Clear:RC:1(150.140.159.71):. Processed in 0.073681 secs); 03 Mar 2007 09:29:35 -0000 Received: from pythagoras.physics.upatras.gr (150.140.159.71) by nic.upatras.gr with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 09:29:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26790 invoked by uid 1111); 3 Mar 2007 09:26:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:26:47 +0200 From: Kostas Blekos To: Robert Davison Message-ID: <20070303092646.GA26572@pythagoras.physics.upatras.gr> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Davison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <285897.32858.qm@web25012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <285897.32858.qm@web25012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:56:19 -0000 Robert Davison on Sat, Mar 03, 2007 (09:06 +0000) wrote: > Im trying to write a small backup script which I have put in > /etc/periodic/weekly. The script is as follows...... > > #!/bin/sh > # > #weekly backup of chosen files > # > if > then > tar -cf /dev/sa0 /var/ftp /home /etc /usr/local > echo "backing up the disks" > else > echo "There was a problem" 1>&2 > exit 1 > fi > echo "Finished at `/bin/date`." > exit > > > Now I have no experience at bash scripting as was wonderng if > someone could give me some help with the if statement. Basically im > trying to test to see if the machine knows that /dev/sa0 (my tape > drive) is accessable. If it is then it continus to the backup, if > not then it gives the error message and echos the date. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > You can test if it is writable by: [ -w /dev/sa0 ] eg: ----------- if [ -w /dev/sa0 ] then echo "Writable" else echo "Not writable" fi ----------- "man test" for other tests. -- Kostas Blekos GPGKey = 1398 1AB3 483E B2DF 3A2D 95F4 7534 E392 012E 6167 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 10:17:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A80116A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bram@diomedia.be) Received: from adicia.telenet-ops.be (adicia.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03F113C491 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bram@diomedia.be) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 7043E2300DF for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:17:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.192] (d5152C2D6.access.telenet.be [81.82.194.214]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3572300B4 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:17:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E94B7D.6000902@diomedia.be> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:18:37 +0100 From: bram User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <003d01c75b92$a3ae4b10$eb0ae130$@ca> <200703030152.27232.danny@ricin.com> In-Reply-To: <200703030152.27232.danny@ricin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:17:22 -0000 Hi I'm not really pro-linux and I really like freebsd but if have to use linux (because I need things not available on bsd). I always use fedora, it's fast to install lot's of info on the net and it is not time consuming (1 hour to install). Danny Pansters schreef: > If you have a (Free)BSD mindset and like your rc.conf but don't mind > typing "pacman" instead of pkg_* or portupgrade -P * and you don't mind using > something called ABS for src packages, which is like ports, only with a stage > install before live-system install, then you may just like ArchLinux. > > I tried many but besides Debian, Arch is the only one I really enjoyed toying > with. Haven't used Arch on serious production system, but it appears that > other people do. Gentoo is nice (and keeps you busy/entertained) until it > blows up on you. > > Just my 0.02 as a long time FreeBSD user. The linux I used most was Debian but > that was long ago before I landed at BSD. > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 11:03:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707A216A400; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3554D13C481; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l23B3dMb084287; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:03:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002d01c75d83$7b349110$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Cheffo" References: <45E7F09B.7070005@zedat.fu-berlin.de><00c401c75caf$89ee3370$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45E80CC5.8080607@FreeBSD-BG.org> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:02:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:03:45 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:03:49 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheffo" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: ; "O. Hartmann" ; Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:38 AM Subject: Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 > Hi, > > > I think the problem is that the benchmark runs with small files and most > files are in cache that's why it shows higher speeds I think the problem is O Hartmann (the OP) has proven by his lack of followup that he was just trolling. Kind of what I guessed yesterday. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 11:44:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAAD16A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teklimbu@wlink.com.np) Received: from smtp5.wlink.com.np (smtp5.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBF1E13C474 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teklimbu@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 23356 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2007 11:44:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.76) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 11:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 25376 invoked by uid 98); 3 Mar 2007 11:44:08 -0000 Received: from 202.79.36.216 by smtp1.wlink.com.np (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/2205. Clear:RC:1(202.79.36.216):. Processed in 0.024683 secs); 03 Mar 2007 11:44:08 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: teklimbu@wlink.com.np via smtp1.wlink.com.np X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(202.79.36.216):. Processed in 0.024683 secs) Received: from [202.79.36.216] (HELO teklimbu.wlink.com.np) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 03 Mar 2007 11:44:05 -0000 (Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:29:05 +0545) Received: from teklimbu.wlink.com.np ([202.79.36.216]) by teklimbu.wlink.com.np with smtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1HNSeg-0009fO-Cs; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:29:02 +0545 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:28:57 +0545 From: Tek Bahadur Limbu To: Grant Peel Message-Id: <20070303172857.2561b918.teklimbu@wlink.com.np> In-Reply-To: <00d501c759b8$b7dc4870$6501a8c0@GRANT> References: <00aa01c758c6$f8dadb90$6501a8c0@GRANT> <20070225193804.19bc9280.teklimbu@wlink.com.np> <00d501c759b8$b7dc4870$6501a8c0@GRANT> Organization: Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.3 / 7.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=0.3 required=7.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:44:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:13:49 -0500 "Grant Peel" wrote: > Hi All, > > I have done some research ... > > It appears that inn certain conditions, when the > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=1 (sysctl), remote clients or other > servers may not respond, and a new rule or dynamic rule is setup. > turning this to 0 seemed to help. > > The effect (of having net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=1) is that over > time, hundreds of FIN_WAIT_2 tcp states occure. With some software, > (vm-pop3d), it runs out of sockets, and I suspect the daemon does not > know how to hadle this. > > So do a: > > sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=0 > > and in about 10 minutes all FIN_WAIT_2 's dissappear. (well almost > all). > > I expect it virtually shut down dynamic rules too in ipfw, but I have > been reading more and more that people are saying don't use dynamics > on a busy site. Anyone care to comment. > > -Grant Hi Grant, I have set sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=0. But both FIN_WAIT_1 and FIN_WAIT_2 does not seem to disappear. Even now, my squid proxy box shows: 15 CLOSE_WAIT 5 CLOSING 2260 ESTABLISHED 2083 FIN_WAIT_1 829 FIN_WAIT_2 132 LAST_ACK 5 LISTEN 28 SYN_SENT 177 TIME_WAIT 1 been Can you shed some light on this ? Thanking you.. - -- With best regards and good wishes, Yours sincerely, Tek Bahadur Limbu (TAG/TDG Group) Jwl Systems Department Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. Jawalakhel, Nepal http://www.wlink.com.np -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF6V99VrOl+eVhOvYRAsf6AJ4tttOBTDoMcx/Cp1R/G9iAjUc/cQCfSnfQ NXly6YRmPzjKbbppIroPtzs= =2Z/B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 12:33:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AA016A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx2.netclusive.de (mx2.netclusive.de [89.110.132.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CD213C46B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx2.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160B9260032 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:33:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 3E8BA15213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:33:29 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:33:29 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <200702281044.16855.josh@tcbug.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172925209 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 12:33:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:33:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: compiling ports with more than one job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:33:33 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:44:16 -0600 Josh Paetzel wrote: > The issues with the config screen sounds like a bug, but one that is > unlikely to get fixed any time soon. You can avoid it by doing a > make config-recursive before building the port, but you're still > going to run in to the problem that ports are not guarranteed to > by -jX safe, some will work, some won't, and there's no way of > knowing without trying it. In general you can save yourself a lot of > headaches by not trying in the first place. I don't have a headache because the port didn't compile, but because compiling without -jX is *really* slow. SPARC CPUs are just slow (by today's standards). Therefore the wish to use all of them (in my case both) is a lot bigger than it would be for someone with an AMD64 5000+ to use both cores. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 12:35:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48D516A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FAD13C471 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2ABDE8010 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:35:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id D214215213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:35:14 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:35:14 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <200702281044.16855.josh@tcbug.org> <44hct617hf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172925314 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 12:35:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:35:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: compiling ports with more than one job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:35:19 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:07:24 -0500 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Exactly right. However, you can get some parallel building by doing > more than one single-threaded build at the same time. This leads to > some danger of corrupting the database, though, so it's not for the > squeamish. I know that portupgrade uses locking to control those > problems, and I suspect some of the other port-management ports > probably have similar capabilities. That could actually lead to more problems than a port that doesn't work with -jX. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 12:46:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C1416A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BE513C481 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1HNTd6-000KJV-8P; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:46:28 -0500 Message-ID: <004801c75d91$f809ee70$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: "Tek Bahadur Limbu" References: <00aa01c758c6$f8dadb90$6501a8c0@GRANT> <20070225193804.19bc9280.teklimbu@wlink.com.np> <00d501c759b8$b7dc4870$6501a8c0@GRANT> <20070303172857.2561b918.teklimbu@wlink.com.np> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:46:31 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:46:33 -0000 Do you have ipfw or other firewall running? Did you restart the network? -Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tek Bahadur Limbu" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 6:43 AM Subject: Re: Fw: FIN_WAIT_2 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:13:49 -0500 > "Grant Peel" wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I have done some research ... >> >> It appears that inn certain conditions, when the >> net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=1 (sysctl), remote clients or other >> servers may not respond, and a new rule or dynamic rule is setup. >> turning this to 0 seemed to help. >> >> The effect (of having net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=1) is that over >> time, hundreds of FIN_WAIT_2 tcp states occure. With some software, >> (vm-pop3d), it runs out of sockets, and I suspect the daemon does not >> know how to hadle this. >> >> So do a: >> >> sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=0 >> >> and in about 10 minutes all FIN_WAIT_2 's dissappear. (well almost >> all). >> >> I expect it virtually shut down dynamic rules too in ipfw, but I have >> been reading more and more that people are saying don't use dynamics >> on a busy site. Anyone care to comment. >> >> -Grant > > Hi Grant, > > I have set sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive=0. But both FIN_WAIT_1 > and FIN_WAIT_2 does not seem to disappear. Even now, my squid proxy box > shows: > > 15 CLOSE_WAIT > 5 CLOSING > 2260 ESTABLISHED > 2083 FIN_WAIT_1 > 829 FIN_WAIT_2 > 132 LAST_ACK > 5 LISTEN > 28 SYN_SENT > 177 TIME_WAIT > 1 been > > Can you shed some light on this ? > > Thanking you.. > > - -- > > > With best regards and good wishes, > > Yours sincerely, > > Tek Bahadur Limbu > > (TAG/TDG Group) > Jwl Systems Department > > Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. > > Jawalakhel, Nepal > > http://www.wlink.com.np > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFF6V99VrOl+eVhOvYRAsf6AJ4tttOBTDoMcx/Cp1R/G9iAjUc/cQCfSnfQ > NXly6YRmPzjKbbppIroPtzs= > =2Z/B > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 12:55:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878DD16A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx2.netclusive.de (mx2.netclusive.de [89.110.132.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2461413C467 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx2.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF1D260027 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:55:57 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id D4A4415213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:55:53 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:55:53 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <20070228183733.4f6ddfe7@gumby.homeunix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172926553 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 12:55:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:55:53 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: compiling ports with more than one job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:55:59 -0000 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:37:33 +0000 RW wrote: > There are two problems here. The first is that not all of the > underlying builds support this. The second is that we are using Make as > our ports scripting language - I'm guessing that in Gentoo no-one > expects portage itself to be parallel. I don't actually *expect* anything. :-) I'm not sure why you think that Gentoo should be an exeption here, but that won't hold up forever - on any OS. It seems that we have reached a point where faster CPUs cannot be made by just increasing the clock. All current CPUs (from Intel and AMD) have two cores and ones with four cores are almost on the market. There are CPUs in other areas with even more cores in use today. This means that at least in the near future just about every OS must somehow work with more than one CPU since parallel computing seems to be the future. This will create several new challenges. Microsoft will lose money because until now they charged money for their OS if the customer wanted more than one CPU supported. :-) But others will have to adapt too. FreeBSD and Gentoo will have to get the compiling into order so it works parallel. NetBSD mut get SMP running properly at all. I know that SMP wasn't considered too important in the past as only servers had more than one CPU. But the times are changing, SMP is coming bigtime and the software must be made to meet the demands of the hardware. > Really it's only the build stage that matters. What you might try is > setting the MAKE_ARGS variable, which passes extra arguments to gmake > during build and install. If a port makefile sets it explicitly you'll > be out of luck, but I think most either don't set it, or use +=. So you mean a MAKE_ARGS= -j 4 would help? > Probably you would want to set it conditionally in make.conf, so you > can exclude any problematical ports. What do you mean with that? Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 13:02:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4FD16A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9252813C428 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F396FDE803F for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:02:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 7BFAB15213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:02:15 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:02:15 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> <539c60b90703011250y7ad5b475v936b4d357549d50e@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172926935 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 13:02:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:02:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:02:18 -0000 On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:50:44 -0700 Steve Franks wrote: > Excellent! Never had that one answered. I've gone down the typical > road of being an MS booster ("It doesn't take 10 hours to set up and > configure") to experiencing glee when I find yet another way FBSD > kicks the crap out of MS. Why? Because I've grown up, and learned > that 2 hours time spent *reading* and configuring is way better than 2 > days time spent when the system crashes in the middle of the workweek > - bottom line, BSD is cheaper before, during, and after installation. > Probably by a factor of 10 for me over the last 10 years. As I write > this, I'm on a MS laptop that has degraded to the point where any disk > acess takes 10 seconds before the display updates (but not from the > shell - so not a defrag issue, just a screwed registry or something). > I used to reinstall my entire MS server every 6 months, on average... Hence the three Rs of MS support. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 13:26:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C39C16A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DA813C461 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so1209947nza for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:26:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AoNgL7Gtn8R5pb313OPuVNGbCP5PtbF77NWAX2tFqpVprFTxDAPwHJo2GF2XJ7YYR3CEAsVbF93TmxmIh9Aciuh74NTKG4hzfRMndtphHRkcJO0/+jjG/RWWYIzLMI6wCEXVdKVGFZ1rry5RTRwQM/VTYFBCcBTm8JHDaTZtdbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qb947jsbVHxTykKIzcgPpwfTA2oK/GJ2ZvOQWq/eEKBkb+Fq/SG/n3RqusaBX3wtKKH2912u3aLk8/Cc3iYhHBUSl2IFBWvbLUSB5IIBnMOSnp517QJ3PCFt6+XULkoxtM2rtlGERZD0o4m+PMgd5+eW7llPlUAOpT1J2qTOtLE= Received: by 10.64.204.19 with SMTP id b19mr6717459qbg.1172928399297; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.7 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 05:26:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60703030526r3edae7adm54a8fcb7616dc669@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:26:39 -0500 From: "David Robillard" To: peter@placidpublishing.net In-Reply-To: <45E91275.8040102@placidpublishing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <226ae0c60702151024u6c71d50bn72d54631c33ed32@mail.gmail.com> <45D5FD5B.6030605@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702161146i6ce6b54ayab9e279c9cf28d1@mail.gmail.com> <45E53C8F.8090100@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702280813q288f646bt8fb8fca886716ee4@mail.gmail.com> <45E5FBE1.3030207@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60702281513o918561eo54f8eaf906d6a096@mail.gmail.com> <45E7A83C.5090704@placidpublishing.net> <226ae0c60703020954n7068e7eele9f8f7d875a1767@mail.gmail.com> <45E91275.8040102@placidpublishing.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apache Rotate Logs and Log Rotate. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:26:40 -0000 On 3/3/07, Peter Pluta wrote: > I see, thanks. Does the shell script you use automatically delete the > original logs after verbalizer or awstats makes it's own? I imagine the > ones those programs use are smaller in size? No, the shell script does not delete any logs. Log rotation and compression is the job of newsyslog. Webalizer creates and maintains his own files which grow slowly over time. How fast they grow depends on how busy your site is and how much data you need to extract from the logs. Try it on one VirtualHost and you'll see. If you like it, then extend your configuration to your other VirtualHosts. Talking about logs, you might want to send them to syslog. Here's a quick article on this topic: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/sysadmin/2006/10/12/httpd-syslog.html Cheers, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 13:53:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9897D16A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC7E13C478 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32B1DE8042 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:53:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 64C8715213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:53:30 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:53:30 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070301223905.GA86318@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172930010 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 13:53:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:53:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:53:33 -0000 On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:39:05 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: >> Well, it would do some, but for the greatest effect, you would need: >> dump + rm -rf * + restore >> That would get it all. > Of course, I should have re-emphasized that this is not needed. > You will not improve performance. Its only value might be to exercise > every used file block on the filesystem to make sure it is still > readable. And for that you don't need to nuke and rewrite things. You could of try changing the above command into 'rm -rfP *'. That would make sure everything on your file system is still readable. And it would give you a lot of time to think about it. :-) > Just doing the backup (which you should do anyway) will read up all > used file space (except what you might have marked as nodump). Actually, that way you won't get every sector on the drive - not unless the drive is full to the brim anyway. If you really just want to check the drive, use smartctl -t long /dev/whatever You could also try dd if=/dev/whatever of=/dev/null bs=1m The idea with the backup isn't a bad one either. Cause if your drive goes up in flames, you don't really care. You still have your data. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 13:57:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB93316A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219BE13C4B2 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l23DEme4036179 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:57:30 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.86.10.90] (authenticated as lenzi) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 13:57:30 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45E9318A.3090609@gmx.de> References: <1172909930.68100.4.camel@localhost> <45E9318A.3090609@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:57:29 -0300 Message-Id: <1172930249.27131.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: bsdstats X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:57:32 -0000 Em S?, 2007-03-03 às 09:27 +0100, [LoN]Kamikaze escreveu: > Sergio Lenzi wrote: > > Question: Does the thin clients count as Freebsd servers in bsdstats??? > > If each client runs the bsdstats script and has its own hostname, yes. > Yes. that is the case... the thin clients have hostnames like: cob.propagar, julia.propagar, comercial5.propagar.... that is: there is an internal NIS domain with DNS for email routing.. and we expect to have several by the end of this year... where will be freebsd "by the dozen"... when the thin clients boots, it executes the script "daemon /usr/local/etc/periodic ...." is that right??? or should execute the script only once a month??? Thanks for any tip. Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 14:01:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D8A16A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5F213C47E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E3ADE8041 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:01:14 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id E5BF31521B; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:01:12 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:01:12 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070302161225.GB90036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172930472 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 14:01:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:01:12 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:01:15 -0000 On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:12:25 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On the other hand, doing all this either way wouldn't make any difference > in performance for file access in a running system because so-called > fragmentation is not an issue in the UNIX file system - except in > the small possibility that it might make a bit of difference in a > file system filled to capacity, well in to the reserve where non-root > processes are not allowed to write anyway. I don't know just how > close to absolutely full you have to get to see any difference, but it > is beyond what users would normally get to. You do know that you can use 'tunefs -m 0'? This will in fact cause fragmentation to happen - even on UFS2! UFS2 has methods of avoiding fragmentation that work quite well but it is not a 'magical' file system, which only means that every gain comes with a price. In this case the price is 10-15% of the HD's space. BTW. I have used tunefs to utilize all of my space on some drives. However, these drive contain only static information that has to be accessed often and then fast. That is the reason why it is on a drive at all. If you know what you are doing then this option is ok. Otherwise, the use will run into trouble when the drive fills up and the information stored on it is not static. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 14:04:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EC416A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx3.netclusive.de (mx3.netclusive.de [89.110.132.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3EB13C467 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx3.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46FA60420D for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:04:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id D579915213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:04:27 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:04:27 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <41224.216.230.84.67.1172785646.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172930667 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 14:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:04:27 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:04:32 -0000 On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:56:02 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > For what it's worth, this has been Microsoft's official position since > NTFS became mainstream. As usual, it's not worth much if it come from Microsoft... Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 14:19:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C929B16A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E13013C442 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE026DE8044 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:19:27 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 78CFD15213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:19:26 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:19:26 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20070301172157.8fc10842.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172931566 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 14:19:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:19:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:19:29 -0000 On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:21:57 -0500 Bill Moran wrote: > But this also makes it _easy_ for the filesystem to avoid causing the type > of fragmentation that _does_ degrade performance. For example, when the > first block is on track 10, then the next block is on track 20, then we're > back to track 10 again, then over to track 35 ... etc, etc Fragmentation *this* bad doesn't happen on MS systems either. Although the systems are much more in danger of creating a big mess on the drive, there is a certain method included to reduce this, like only allowing the track numbers to either rise or fall (possibly per file access) but not back and forth over the drive. I can remember experimenting on my Commodore 64 (can anyone remember that ol' thing?) and the floppy drive. I stored a file all over the disc, one sector per track. The idea was to find out how much time it actually took to load a file "fragmented" like this - and made a really cool loading sound as well, especially if you had a floppy speeder like dolphin DOS. :-) I wanted to actually cause the drive to go from track 1 to 40 and then back again while loading a single file. But that didn't work. So if I started on track a and I am now on track c, then jumping to track b (with a X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B9F16A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE9413C481 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9ACDE804E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:22:36 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id B27E915213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:22:35 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:22:35 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <44r6s8y4o5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172931755 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 14:22:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:22:35 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:22:38 -0000 On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:56:30 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > "UFS fragmentation" refers to dividing blocks (e.g. 16KB in size) into > block fragments (e.g. 2KB in size) that can be allocated separately in > special circumstances (which all boil down to: at the end of files). > This is done to lessen the effect of internal fragmentation. No, to lessen the loss of disc space. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 14:23:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931B316A403 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A1613C478 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd20.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.32]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36114DE8037 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:23:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 2201615213; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:23:51 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:23:51 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <44r6s8y4o5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <2dac75d59286fc9c0481d6dc7ca29e16@prodigy.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1172931831 99267 192.168.100.11 (3 Mar 2007 14:23:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:23:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:23:53 -0000 On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:14:07 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > As you said, HFS(+) is not a native unix file system, but maybe someone > will know about it. All I know about is that HFS+ is a journaling file > system and that it defragments (in the Windows sense) files smaller than > certain size (20MB?) on the fly. This may be completely OT here, but I gotta ask: Is Reiser a native Unix FS? Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 14:54:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5673616A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3525713C49D for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [192.168.1.10]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E4128F864; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: Christian Baer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070303145412.B6271@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301165055.638b0a06.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <44r6s8y4o5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <2dac75d59286fc9c0481d6dc7ca29e16@prodigy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:54:41 -0000 On Sat, 3 Mar 2007, Christian Baer wrote: > On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:14:07 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > >> As you said, HFS(+) is not a native unix file system, but maybe someone >> will know about it. All I know about is that HFS+ is a journaling file >> system and that it defragments (in the Windows sense) files smaller than >> certain size (20MB?) on the fly. > > This may be completely OT here, but I gotta ask: Is Reiser a native Unix > FS? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namesys From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 15:23:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5DD16A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7555913C471 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19625F70; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:23:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g1G763dW4UV9; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:23:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-114-230.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.114.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CF65D82; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:23:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45E992E5.4060304@mac.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:23:17 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: josh@inthehouseshow.com References: <20070302222437.eidusqm1dog0c8s0@webmail.inthehouseshow.com> In-Reply-To: <20070302222437.eidusqm1dog0c8s0@webmail.inthehouseshow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "Digital Nation" Radio Show X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:23:27 -0000 josh@inthehouseshow.com wrote: > My name is Josh Smith, I am the producer for the "Digital Nation," radio show, > based out of Orlando, Fl. "Digital Nation," is about everything electronic and > I would like to know some things about FreeBSD. Does a drive need to be > partitioned to run it? Can it run on a partitioned drive, while the other > portion runs Windows or Mac OSX? It's common for one to set up two partitions if you want a machine to run both FreeBSD and some other OS, yes. However, it's possible to run FreeBSD inside a machine emulator like VMWare, although doing so is not going to perform quite as well as running it on the hardware directly. > How secure is it? What kind of computer will ideally run it? Ups and downs? FreeBSD is very secure by most standards, although OpenBSD has a better security track record. The potential security risks involved in running FreeBSD have more to do with which services a machine runs, rather than what your OS is. FreeBSD runs on most Intel/AMD hardware out there, and also supports some other architectures like SPARC and PowerPC. Something like a 486-grade machine with 24MB to 32MB of RAM is probably the minimal spec. Having more memory will help, of course, if you are running a GUI or lots of services. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 15:46:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94B16A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EA813C48E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 88430 invoked by uid 1002); 3 Mar 2007 15:46:26 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.113.63.132):. Processed in 11.644805 secs); 03 Mar 2007 15:46:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.22?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.113.63.132) by pearl.ibctech.ca with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 15:46:14 -0000 Message-ID: <45E997CE.7040204@ibctech.ca> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:44:14 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: GVinum issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:46:27 -0000 Hi all, Although I've poured over documentation for over an hour this morning, I'm certain I'm missing something very minute here. I've got a: backup# uname -a FreeBSD backup 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #2: Thu May 25 14:44:22 EDT 2006 internal backup server running a gvinum span: drive d0 device /dev/da0 drive d1 device /dev/da1 drive d2 device /dev/da2 drive d3 device /dev/da3 drive d4 device /dev/da4 drive d5 device /dev/da5 drive d6 device /dev/da6 volume span plex org concat sd length 0 drive d0 sd length 0 drive d1 sd length 0 drive d2 sd length 0 drive d3 sd length 0 drive d4 sd length 0 drive d5 sd length 0 drive d6 ... which has been working fine since inception. However, when I do a: # gvinum list ...it tells me: backup# gvinum list 0 drives: 0 volumes: 0 plexes: 0 subdisks: ...and it mounts via fstab as: /dev/stripe/backup 397G 148G 217G 41% /backup For the life of me, I can not figure out why a 'list' won't return the appropriate information. I want to upgrade this box, and just want to have the documentation on the RAID setup. TIA for any guidance on what I am doing wrong. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 17:05:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3994716A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138C713C4A7 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l23H5l10017748 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:05:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200703031705.l23H5l10017748@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <17743.1172941547.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:05:47 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: What cvs-supfile Directive did I Leave Out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:05:48 -0000 I originally wanted to bring the ISO image of FreeBSD6.2 up to date using cvsup. Everything worked perfectly including the make buildworld, make installworld, make buildkernel and make installkernel. Then was when I realized that I was now running FreeBSD7.0 after having unwittingly upgraded. This particular system will be a very busy dhcpd server, however, so I probably don't want the bleeding edge. It is a Dell 2650 and FreeBSD6.2 was the only ISO image of FreeBSD that found all the right drivers. I probably need to go back to what I initially meant to do for safety sake. Since this was my first successful attempt at using cvsup, my questions now are: Can I safely downgrade back to the most stable version of 6.2 using cvsup? What did I do wrong in the cvs-supfile I used? upgrades are great if you want them, but this is going to be a production system so I would rather try the latest and greatest on a less-important box. All I wanted was sources, no ports or X; basically what you would have after using an ISO image. Thanks. The cvs-sup file follows: *default tag=. *default host=cvsup15.us.freebsd.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/var/db *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix src-all -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 17:49:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A175216A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3177713C428 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-10-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.10.135]:57754 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HNYMW-0004Jq-3U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:49:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 57025 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2007 18:49:37 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 18:49:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 98897 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Mar 2007 18:49:37 +0100 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:49:37 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20070303174936.GA98875@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200703031705.l23H5l10017748@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703031705.l23H5l10017748@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HNYMW-0004Jq-3U. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1HNYMW-0004Jq-3U 43cff3e24354bed12cc14d26f89537e0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What cvs-supfile Directive did I Leave Out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:49:41 -0000 On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:05:47AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > I originally wanted to bring the ISO image of FreeBSD6.2 > up to date using cvsup. Everything worked perfectly including > the make buildworld, make installworld, make buildkernel and make > installkernel. Then was when I realized that I was now running > FreeBSD7.0 after having unwittingly upgraded. > > This particular system will be a very busy dhcpd server, > however, so I probably don't want the bleeding edge. It is a > Dell 2650 and FreeBSD6.2 was the only ISO image of FreeBSD that > found all the right drivers. I probably need to go back to what > I initially meant to do for safety sake. > > Since this was my first successful attempt at using > cvsup, my questions now are: > > Can I safely downgrade back to the most stable version of 6.2 > using cvsup? Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. I would recommend reinstalling 6.2 from scratch and starting over again. > > What did I do wrong in the cvs-supfile I used? upgrades are > great if you want them, but this is going to be a production > system so I would rather try the latest and greatest on a > less-important box. > All I wanted was sources, no ports or X; basically what you would > have after using an ISO image. Thanks. > The cvs-sup file follows: > > *default tag=. > *default host=cvsup15.us.freebsd.org > *default prefix=/usr > *default base=/var/db > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix > src-all You used the wrong tag. "tag=." specifies that you want HEAD aka -CURRENT from the repository. You should use either "tag=RELENG_6" or "tag=RELENG_6_2" depending on if you want 6-STABLE or '6.2-RELEASE+security patches". -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 18:20:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE2316A408 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcondo@quinn.com) Received: from sushi.quinn.com (sushi.quinn.com [64.81.244.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C5313C4A6 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcondo@quinn.com) Received: from [10.0.0.12] (absinthe [67.113.224.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by sushi.quinn.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l23HfP1B005020 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:41:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fcondo@quinn.com) In-Reply-To: <200703031705.l23H5l10017748@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200703031705.l23H5l10017748@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0F155987-1788-4D7E-B181-FED3C82FB365@quinn.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Fred Condo Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:41:22 -0800 To: Martin McCormick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What cvs-supfile Directive did I Leave Out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:20:53 -0000 Have a look at /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile You probably want something like this: *default host=cvsup15.us.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_2 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all -- Fred Condo, Chief Engineer http://quinn.com Quinn Interactive, Inc. Building better websites for over a decade. On Mar 3, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I originally wanted to bring the ISO image of FreeBSD6.2 > up to date using cvsup. Everything worked perfectly including > the make buildworld, make installworld, make buildkernel and make > installkernel. Then was when I realized that I was now running > FreeBSD7.0 after having unwittingly upgraded. > > This particular system will be a very busy dhcpd server, > however, so I probably don't want the bleeding edge. It is a > Dell 2650 and FreeBSD6.2 was the only ISO image of FreeBSD that > found all the right drivers. I probably need to go back to what > I initially meant to do for safety sake. > > Since this was my first successful attempt at using > cvsup, my questions now are: > > Can I safely downgrade back to the most stable version of 6.2 > using cvsup? > > What did I do wrong in the cvs-supfile I used? upgrades are > great if you want them, but this is going to be a production > system so I would rather try the latest and greatest on a > less-important box. > All I wanted was sources, no ports or X; basically what you would > have after using an ISO image. Thanks. > The cvs-sup file follows: > > *default tag=. > *default host=cvsup15.us.freebsd.org > *default prefix=/usr > *default base=/var/db > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix > src-all > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 19:09:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB9816A409 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pubmb01@skynet.be) Received: from outfbmx004.isp.belgacom.be (outfbmx004.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.5.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37A413C4B6 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pubmb01@skynet.be) Received: from outmx008.isp.belgacom.be (outmx008.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.5.235]) by outfbmx004.isp.belgacom.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF9238604 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:56:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from outmx008.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outmx008.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id l23HuHgU014764 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:56:17 +0100 (envelope-from ) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (108.229-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.229.108]) by outmx008.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id l23Hu2Id014660 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:56:13 +0100 (envelope-from ) From: Bruno Costacurta To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:55:49 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200703031855.49194.pubmb01@skynet.be> Subject: Bittorrent : any valid tracker ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:09:00 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to download via bittorrent since few days now and cannot connect to http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080 which remains unavailable. Any other trackers fro FreeBSD ? Maybe better to simply download via FTP ? Thanks. Bye, Bruno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 19:14:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C658416A404 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C71113C48E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l23JEm8Q017441 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:14:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200703031914.l23JEm8Q017441@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <17439.1172949287.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:14:48 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: What cvs-supfile Directive did I Leave Out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:14:48 -0000 Erik Trulsson writes: > Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. I would recommend reinstalling 6.2 > from scratch and starting over again. Thank you and thanks to Fred Condo who also responded. I guess the only thing I can salvage from the last day's work is knowing that cvsup is a good resource when used carefully. I was kind of afraid that I would need to start from scratch because there may be hidden gotchas due to libraries that shouldn't be there, etc. I guess since the system did come up working, I could experiment with the shell script I am building to update 6.2 and then save it to another system before starting over on Monday. Also, thanks for the correction on the cvs-supfile. We have 3 boxes scheduled to go in service that are all the same type of server which means that they will all be getting the CDROM initial install and then hopefully the security patches and bug fixes via cvsup. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 19:38:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D049116A403 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53404.mail.yahoo.com (web53404.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CC3113C4A8 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 581 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2007 19:38:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=w6dc1YYrtZZbQhkqb92NTQqzItpHb3zDVHwSB2RywgfNp3JCumMvkCyVTKGiM4a1UkhEsbgtN5nAmHXABliBikZvmikC+rh0pVmHCardMYxNcRbzmhxg31ryNqc0z1H1+HkPpj9VfwkMFhSnYZxzV0EXcrByrTSl4DEPsSJ/G80=; X-YMail-OSG: QOWumcYVM1lnRbtUWISvCD1ysIOQAdFghLOAn8bQ7ZjyJNUY77MZMH6DCUyW5QPDZ9Tof7m1Lqo1Aqvs5qM_H3TCsLXUtzpdWnWTFy1dxTCN9vqs9zq4UqgIgv5oEM3BrIVWsMAKOd6LYINOH.uKfyxYUw-- Received: from [166.84.1.2] by web53404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:38:43 PST Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:38:43 -0800 (PST) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: Paulette McGee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <684714.83355.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <737050.288.qm@web53404.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Firefox only runs as root--help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:38:45 -0000 Paulette McGee wrote: --- "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" wrote: > This is a resend of something i sent to the > freebsd-gnome list a few days > ago, but there wer no answers and i think its a real > problem, so i hope > no one minds. > > I have a new install of FreeBSD 6.2, and installed > Gnome 2.16 and other things, including Firefox 2.0, > from Ports. > > Firefox only runs as root. Every time. I Googled and > saw that in an early > version there was a problem that it had to be run > the _first_ time as root > but after that it was OK, but thats not the problem > here--it ONLY runs as > root all the time. If I type "firefox" on the > command line it > just immediately returns to the command line, no > error messages > of any sort, nothing in /var/log/messages. > > When run as root it seems to be fine. The binary has > execute > permissions for everyone. > > What do i need to be doing? > > Thanks! > > Jen > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel > sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What happens if you type "firefox" on the command line as a normal user?As i posted in the message you replied to, if you type firefox nothing happens, it just returns silently to the commandline. But anyway the problem was that my .mozilla directory and everything in it was permitted only to root. So when i changed that everything worked fine. Thanks! Jen --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 19:56:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2A216A402 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel.tourde@spray.se) Received: from mxfep04.bredband.com (mxfep04.bredband.com [195.54.107.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93CD13C442 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel.tourde@spray.se) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com ([195.54.107.84] [195.54.107.84]) by mxfep04.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20070303195650.ONRB2732.mxfep04.bredband.com@ironport2.bredband.com> for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:56:50 +0100 Received: from c-748572d5.023-68-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO maerlyn.bredbandsbolaget.se) ([213.114.133.116]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2007 20:56:50 +0100 From: Daniel Tourde To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:56:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703032056.47003.daniel.tourde@spray.se> Subject: Is there any native Java3d for FreeBSD6.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: daniel.tourde@spray.se List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:56:52 -0000 Hello, I need Java3d on my FreeBSD 6.2 box. When I try to build the java3d port, I end up with some Linux binary support (FedoraCore) and a Java3D based on some Linux binary. I have sun-jdk-1.5 native on my system. It's not that I hate Linux (I am a very satisfied owner of a few Gentoo boxes), it's just that I want my FreeBSD box to remain as simple as possible and as native as possible... So here are my questions: - Is there any native Java3D package for FreeBSD, if yes, where can I find the Makefile? - If no native package are planned, is it easy to build Java3D on my FreeBSD box without being forced to have some Linux support? Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 20:38:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDCC16A404 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cedric@decemplex.net) Received: from mail.decemplex.net (mail.decemplex.net [80.237.247.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FA413C4AA for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cedric@decemplex.net) Received: from localhost (mail.decemplex.net [80.237.247.202]) by mail.decemplex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66A17D1A74 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:14:42 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at decemplex.net Received: from mail.decemplex.net ([80.237.247.202]) by localhost (mail.decemplex.net [80.237.247.202]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id f0Rki8GDPJU9 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:14:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from decemplex.loc (12-178-112-217.dyn.adsl.belcenter.be [217.112.178.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.decemplex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7237D1941 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:14:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:14:38 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric?= Jonas To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070303211438.4c759c33@ganymed> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_jmSE.OAf7di9E2bQJDVK=nL"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: Subject: sshd: PAM + key authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:38:47 -0000 --Sig_jmSE.OAf7di9E2bQJDVK=nL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I set up a some sshd servers which authenticates their users through a LDAP DB. To realize this, I used PAM.=20 Everything ok until now.=20 Then, via PAM (pam_filter) and the host attribute in the LDAP DB, I only allowed logon on specifical hosts for some users. After that, I tested this last functionality: I tried to login on a disallowed host, and it fails - so it works as expected. For this test, I used password authentication. Later, I tried the same test with key authentication, and could log in... After some more investigations, it seems sshd ignores PAM when someone tries to log in with a key... is there some way to force sshd to consider PAM in case of key authentication? Thanks you, --=20 C=E9dric Jonas cedric@decemplex.net GPG ID: 30CCFE8D GPG Key: http://box.decemplex.net/~cedric/cedric.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: CF03 E1FD 9428 1B6B E971 B107 9044 AA99 30CC FE8D Jabber-ID: cedric@decemplex.net --Sig_jmSE.OAf7di9E2bQJDVK=nL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF6dcvkESqmTDM/o0RApBjAJwMxWVRrQ56A7XAUqlZdQuz27E7vQCfcsSu aTLgAz9Ybd4nl0pyK7G7QOo= =QF59 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_jmSE.OAf7di9E2bQJDVK=nL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 20:48:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5A016A401 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4037C13C467 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so1306661nza for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=KKm+x7Kcepowf4sJio5aI++DmFkmgabGlYmU9m0yj0qEuXXOJHOzvhX3lIXp7/BrYq1NK+vaYYoMpzhCOPfwHauSIFceuSxwjw6WcgFhCbz67tvjUm6pDdfPxYErGDcdVqYrXx2ff2cXm/bhQ1hsZV0cIyBmAQ0OC9RxxhEYIvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=izuMGzlJwR2ediQh94bd0YtWEhIq/xIS2/4Ufri4iw9FVopPDb6QhbNFuHStvvie7SiY7j2SY09rTmqw+A0ytQQY2AnoFFrxPzt/SFdT71E3yiODStiHmMYwP7YSs3pFrCstojOdov+lFq/N7/gmShUaJw/keEsgfy7VeUC8RWE= Received: by 10.65.211.1 with SMTP id n1mr7537606qbq.1172954915623; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.210.7 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60703031248j4aba223br5ba03a12a55f896d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:48:35 -0500 From: "David Robillard" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Linux "equivalent" to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:48:36 -0000 > If you have a (Free)BSD mindset and like your rc.conf but don't mind > typing "pacman" instead of pkg_* or portupgrade -P * and you don't mind using > something called ABS for src packages, which is like ports, only with a stage > install before live-system install, then you may just like ArchLinux. Yes, I agree with Danny. Arch Linux is as close to FreeBSD that you can get with Linux. I don't run any core business services on it, but a friend does run his webservers on it and so far he's happy. Again, my 0.02 on this topic :) David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 21:37:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D5516A405 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5F13C494 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66189206257 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:37:52 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I+cIbileG0ro for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:37:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D482058A3 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:37:47 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:37:40 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45E6E91A.10900@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> In-Reply-To: <45E6E91A.10900@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> X-Face: &'; cS03F?rr_w2Qce.d2f7xmwXfcJWDs>}CkpDw.c]ZJJ_)i0Nx Subject: Re: python 2.4.4, 1 vs 2.4.3, 1 - zope trouble - python version downgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 21:37:53 -0000 --nextPart39176992.qEF2bXtrTy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 01 March 2007 08:54, Le Cocq Michel wrote: > File "/usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/app/component/adapter.py", > line 28, in ? > class LocalSurrogate(zope.interface.adapter.Surrogate): > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Surrogate' > rapace# See if you have the "py24-zopeInterface" package installed. It puts files= =20 with the same name as Zope modules in /usr/local/lib/python, and the real=20 Zope imports those instead of its own modules. I removed that package and = my=20 Zope instances immediately started working again. BTW, if anyone can tell me a good reason why the Zope port does "chmod 444"= to=20 all installed files, including the ones that *have* to be writable in "log"= =20 and "var", I'd appreciate it. I've been too lazy to file a bug so far, but= =20 every time I upgrade Zope I have to remember to reset those permissions. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart39176992.qEF2bXtrTy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF6eqp5sRg+Y0CpvERAorAAJwKnKe91AOf3GtdYjMmdGAEPwCT7wCbBX2G 8SUvg1HWt7qtBdwTEWJxqtA= =FMwN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart39176992.qEF2bXtrTy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 23:25:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4300E16A400 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1109C13C4A5 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l23NMdUf096801; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:22:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l23NMdYg096800; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:22:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:22:39 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Christian Baer Message-ID: <20070303232239.GA96768@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <20070301192109.A24369@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070302085100.125cf488@localhost> <20070301221738.GA86154@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070301223905.GA86318@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:25:24 -0000 On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:53:30PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:39:05 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >> Well, it would do some, but for the greatest effect, you would need: > >> dump + rm -rf * + restore > >> That would get it all. > > > Of course, I should have re-emphasized that this is not needed. > > You will not improve performance. Its only value might be to exercise > > every used file block on the filesystem to make sure it is still > > readable. And for that you don't need to nuke and rewrite things. > > You could of try changing the above command into 'rm -rfP *'. That would > make sure everything on your file system is still readable. And it would > give you a lot of time to think about it. :-) > > > Just doing the backup (which you should do anyway) will read up all > > used file space (except what you might have marked as nodump). > > Actually, that way you won't get every sector on the drive - not unless > the drive is full to the brim anyway. Note that I did say all of the _used_ space - eg actual files. > > If you really just want to check the drive, use > smartctl -t long /dev/whatever > > You could also try > dd if=/dev/whatever of=/dev/null bs=1m > > The idea with the backup isn't a bad one either. Cause if your drive > goes up in flames, you don't really care. You still have your data. Yup, just what I was sort of pointing out. ////jerry > > Regards > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"