From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 00:04:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFF516A417 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E6D13C49D for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IeJa2-0005hf-VN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:01:10 +0000 Received: from c-71-230-67-187.hsd1.pa.comcast.net ([71.230.67.187]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:01:10 +0000 Received: from apeiron+usenet by c-71-230-67-187.hsd1.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:01:10 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <972994690710061253q483e26ber68f4716d3202d1fa@mail.gmail.com> <20071006201356.GB55336@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <972994690710061329t10b4eb49j8c95a539eec2bbe9@mail.gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-71-230-67-187.hsd1.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:04:45 -0000 On 2007-10-06, James Jeffery top-posted. [ please don't do that, it makes it very difficult to format responses correctly and makes it just about as hard to read and understand them ] > Hi all, thanks for the fast replys, much appreciated. > > Manolis: Yep, its the book by Jesse, i never believe them when they say > "in 24 hours", its a snag for them to sell the book, they just split it up > into 24 sections to make it look like its possible. I'd personally consider getting a better book. Generally, as has been said, the "learn X in Y units_of_time" books are titled that way for marketability. You can't *possibly* learn C++ in 10 minutes, 24 hours, 21 days, or even a year. See also http://norvig.com/21-days.html and http://accu.org/index.php/book_reviews for book reviews. > Roland: Ive been working with PHP over the past 2 years, i understand > the basics such as data types, functions, arrays, variables, objects ect, > but i want to challenge myself and learn something that will benifit me > when looking for work after uni, i've got another 4 years of learning before > i complete my software engineering degree. PHP isn't really a programming language. It's more a fancy templating system that happens to be able to use extensions that can provide C style linkage. That said, I laude you for your desire to learn a real programming language, and agree with the recommendation that you start with something a bit higher level. Perl, for example, ships with absolutely top-notch documentation, and generally speaking, its third-party extensions have similar documentation quality. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -- Yaakov, And it seems to me that the only people going on about "freedom" these days are RMS and Bush.